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silk hare
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youll probably get more advice there, also advice on what

umbral girder
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The players make some new lore up be ready to make it part of the lore for the fun of it.

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Most encounters are Moderate/Medium difficulty, Boss fights are High/Deadly Difficulty

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and lastly read the DMG or at least skim it page to page.

opaque kettle
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what does the rate mean?

silk hare
opaque kettle
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like $25 per person

umbral girder
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OH some games like to have people pay for their games.

silk hare
opaque kettle
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ohh

rough basalt
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if a player is like "huh we havent had to deal with any traps lately" be like "hmm you're right" adds rolling ball in next dungeon

umbral girder
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Listened to a game where a guy mentioned “King Great the Legend once wielded this” and the DM made that the actual king

rough basalt
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Watching World of Io has taught me how fun and useful it is to use the stuff players say in-game at some point

umbral girder
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“Mini boss with a 10ft pole” moment

rough basalt
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Except in Tokiis case half the time he says stuff ive already written down and haven't revealed yet

limber trail
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You’ve gotta have one player who’s already read your notes

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You need to have one, it simply must be

umbral girder
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“I am 5 alternate universes ahead of you”

limber trail
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I do love the thing of “oh you’re making up a knight? Awesome this is now the fourth most important knight to ever live”

rough basalt
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"we havent fought undead yet this campaign have we?"
Me getting the a Wight led undead attack to bond the new pcs with the old ones encounter set up: "Nah you haven't"

limber trail
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What creature types haven’t my players fought yet

umbral girder
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Ooze

limber trail
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Haven’t fought many constructs or oozes

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They’re levelled out of most oozes

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They’re level 7 now

umbral girder
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Oblex

rough basalt
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Blob of Annihilation crashes into the planet

limber trail
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Compelling arguments

umbral girder
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Cr10 elder Oblex

solar crow
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Y'all I'm excited for my bbeg fight lol

rough basalt
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My monday game i think havent encountered oozes

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Wednesday has been the elements, crazy people, and the occasional ooze or monstrosity

umbral girder
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We encountered an undead

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Didn’t fight because level 1 vs cr15 is a bit wild

limber trail
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I was about to say that an elder ooblex isn’t all that, what with it having 100hp and an AC 16, but my god that’s a solid dpr

rough basalt
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Hey, he was a humble merchant

umbral girder
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I never said he wasn’t

rough basalt
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Tho if he wasn't amused by the audacity to try and hustle him it wouldnt have ended well for the fighter

rough basalt
umbral girder
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Anyway let’s get our fire damage ready /jk

knotty vine
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burn

rough basalt
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Im getting kinda angry at myself for my wednesday game

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I marketed it as weekly, but its been closer to bi-weekly cause I get paid in illness bi-weekly

silk hare
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oof

rough basalt
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Tho this time its not like i had any control of it, yesterday my power was out all night while I was asleep I think, and all day and it was freezing temperatures

knotty vine
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Dont you have a human heart

rough basalt
umbral girder
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I feel bad because I also end up not being able to attend weekly on the Wednesday game.

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School is bullying me

cobalt escarp
fair plinth
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Cant wait for dnd this week

rough basalt
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I should be fine once the weather stabilizes

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Given the power company doesnt get bored again and turn off the power on a subfreezing day

umbral girder
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Shoutout to Zariel. a Combined stat total of 162

hot reef
crude vine
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Sup lads owoWave

silk hare
shell quarry
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latest update: it one-shot the death star with a dropkick at mach speed

fathom gate
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I want to make a character who’s scared of literally everything but is so incredibly lucky and accidentally succeeds

viral kraken
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sounds like a divination wizard to me

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can see and be afraid of the future lol

fathom gate
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Even better. Wild magic sorcerer

viral kraken
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i feel like wild magic sorcerers can be really unlucky

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but ya they can change rolls

cobalt escarp
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one of the wild magic surge table options is to just blow up

severe fox
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That was changed int he new rules

livid owl
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And one of those times I had the surge that makes everything around you take 1d10(?) necrotic damage so nobody got hurt 😭

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I did turn into a potted plant at one point though .

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But again! Outside of combat which is the best time for that!

dapper wigeon
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Other than +3 moon sickle what is the next best very rare magic item for druids?

earnest crest
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What would you guys consider to be a good ac at first level?

turbid vessel
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Depends on your class and what you're building for

earnest crest
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Good point

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I was just asking because my dm is kinda frustrated because at first level my ac is 18

near junco
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I'm searching for a campaign for me and my homie rn and I am GENUINELY gonna lose it if i see ONE more art scam

thorn wedge
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For feats

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Tons of rerolls and luck flavor options

earnest crest
silk hare
earnest crest
# silk hare 19

I’m gonna assume you’re playing barbarian or paladin because of this ac

silk hare
# silk hare 19

without shield spell for the more bulky classes, with shield spell for spellcasters such as wizards

thorn wedge
silk hare
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fighters, paladins etc

craggy summit
earnest crest
silk hare
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highest theoretical AC iirc is sth around 32 at lvl 1

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not possible solo tho ofc

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you need some spells cast on you too

earnest crest
silk hare
craggy summit
earnest crest
silk hare
craggy summit
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Paladin mains rise up 🔥

silk hare
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14+2(dex)+2(shield)

earnest crest
craggy summit
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Could you have 20 AC at level 1 without spells if you make a warforged with heavy armor?

silk hare
earnest crest
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The one weakness of paladins that comes up often is range

earnest crest
silk hare
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dont need heavy armor even as long as u have a 14 dex

earnest crest
craggy summit
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Then haste (if someone has it) for 25 👀

silk hare
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at lvl 1, lvl 2 u get the fighting style

silk hare
craggy summit
silk hare
earnest crest
silk hare
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bc I think 20 is the max (without spells) no?

short brook
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tbh get shieldmaster lol

silk hare
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at least basic rules/ source + no magic items

reef tundra
silk hare
winter helm
reef tundra
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The lowest save bonus I’ve ever had as a pally above level 6 was +3

silk hare
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I wonder if bird names are censored in here actually dndThink

earnest crest
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Roses are red, full plate is heavy, these goblins are gonna get turned to jelly

silk hare
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also why the pidgeot as a PB?

craggy summit
thorn wedge
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Tortle gives you base 17 ac no modifier. A shield gets you to 19. Using the shell defense feature gives you a further +4 to ac, for a total of 23. Maybe some class has some niche feature that would get you higher. Not sure what it would be though

silk hare
thorn wedge
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Probably not level 1 without spells.

silk hare
craggy summit
silk hare
craggy summit
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There might be others but that's the only one that I can recall

silk hare
thorn wedge
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Ye forge cleric doesn’t help out tanky tortle unfortunately, RAW at least

craggy summit
silk hare
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I mean doesnt matter since lvl 1 doesnt give u that

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but theres a few things that let u up your AC via either race or subclass

thorn wedge
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Fighter didn’t help either since you must wear armor to benefit from defense fighting style. Paladin gets their style at level 2 so no joy

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Barbarian warforged, roll your stats, get insanely lucky and get 2 18s for con and dex. Racial Asi to con getting you to 20.

Unarmored defense 10 with +4 and +5 for a total of 19.

+2 shield.

+1 warforged race feature.

Total of 22 ac with no action required

glad arch
silk hare
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more so bc bird man and theres a bunch of better/funnier birds

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not bc its a creature from a franchise which shall not be named

glad arch
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Pidgeot is peak, but mods shall smite me if we keep talking pokemon probably

silk hare
earnest crest
silk hare
silk hare
earnest crest
silk hare
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gotcha, fair enough

glad arch
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So aarakocra paladin im guessing

silk hare
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nahhh, barbarian, brave bird with half damage go brrrr xD

glad arch
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Nah they got paladin tag, youre legally obligated to play a paladin with that

silk hare
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oh him, here I see whoops

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sry, brain scrambled

glad arch
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Nw

rough basalt
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No particularly bad ones.

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Dex and Int being the "weakest" but still plausible.

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Unless you're going Dexadin then it's strength and int

reef tundra
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Laughs in dexadin

rough basalt
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Noble Genie Dexadin is probably a nightmare, exaggerating anyway

dim wasp
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Gunslinger

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Gunslinger...

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I was thinking of something earlier...

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Is there something like a bowslinger

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I swear I've heard that somewhere before

thorn wedge
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I believe that has been invented, it’s called ranger

dim wasp
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There's another slinger

rough basalt
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Arcane Archer but it's horrendous

dim wasp
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And no it's not Bladesinger

rough basalt
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There's Wandslingers in Eberron.

dim wasp
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What is a wandslinger

rough basalt
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Ye they use Gun shaped Wands.

dim wasp
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Lmfao

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What's different about playing a gunslinger compared to a ranger?

rough basalt
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Gunslinger isn't an official class.
Ranger is

dim wasp
rough basalt
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It depends on what gunslinger

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Matt's is just a subclass that has misfires and grit

dim wasp
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Revolver?

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Ig

rough basalt
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Valdas is its an entire fleshed out class with its own systems which are kinda awkward imo

dim wasp
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Tf is a valdas

crude vine
dim wasp
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Also how did gunslinging get so complex

rough basalt
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A third party sourcebook that has a Gunslinger with its own systems in it.

rough basalt
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Its like baby's first homebrew class

umbral girder
rough basalt
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Any character that can effectively used ranged weapons can use a firearm, given they have proficiency

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Like a Battlemaster Fighter with a Pistol can do a lot of Gunslinger fantasy things

umbral girder
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Rangers aren’t about being good with weapons after all. They are about being good at the Range. (Location)

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Survivalists and Hunters after all. The “Adventurer Class” as I like to call it

rough basalt
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And Wandslingers in Eberron are basically just Gunslingers but Guns in Eberron are Wands that fire magic so they're Wandslingers.

rough basalt
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It's the dedicated caster for nature oriented magic.

dim wasp
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Ranger mage

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Lmfao

dim wasp
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Lie

rough basalt
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Cause Ranger uses druid magic to supplement themsselves.

rough basalt
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It's no different than a Cleric vs Paladin.

umbral girder
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Paladin has a subclass that’s nature oriented too. Barbarian as a class too. Warlocks got a subclass.

dim wasp
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So uhh

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Are sorcerers support or dps

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Or does that depend

umbral girder
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It’s like how Bards and Wizards and Warlocks are all guys who study the arcane for their magic.

dim wasp
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Cuz I'm seeing cleric support wizard dps
Sorc support warlock damage

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Is the pattern I'm seeing

rough basalt
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Sorcerers are specialists.

dim wasp
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong

rough basalt
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Whatever they're gonna do they should focus on it.

umbral girder
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Sorcerers specialize in what you build them into.

rough basalt
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Like if a Sorc is gonna blow people up, they take Heightened, Careful spell, and most aoe damage spells

dim wasp
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Mish

rough basalt
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One thing all Sorcs usually take or should usually take is Subtle Spell

dim wasp
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Is there any difference between underwater and sailing adventuring for those of u that have done it

rough basalt
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Cause it makes your spells immune to counterspell.

rough basalt
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Also let's you use magic in situations where doing so would usually result in an unfavorable outcome.

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Like charm spells to get into places, support spells to help allies in said situations.

dim wasp
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Would u use wisdom for a perception check?

rough basalt
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Cause I've had a situation where a party was trying to convince Bandits that one of them captured the rest of the party (PC disguised as a bandit) and the cleric didn't realize that guidance is a very blatant spellcast.

dim wasp
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Also is persuasion and deception the same?

rough basalt
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Wisdom is a perception skill.
Persuasion and Deception are Charisma skills.

umbral girder
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No

rough basalt
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Magic is loud and obvious

dim wasp
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Is there any stealth casting?

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Apart from charms

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Or not really

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Cuz ik incantations have to be verbal

rough basalt
rough basalt
earnest crest
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Could you technically whisper a spell?

umbral girder
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No

rough basalt
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Nope

umbral girder
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PHB specifies you cannot whisper a spell

earnest crest
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Ok then so you would need subtle spell

dim wasp
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Mish

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So that's what S and V mean when it says components

rough basalt
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Yep components are very obvious

dim wasp
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What's somatic is that a hand gesture?

earnest crest
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Wait what the name of that one spell that makes a mouth that can cast for you?

rough basalt
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A very noticeable one yeah

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Like Fireball S is a Jojo pose with your finger pointing.

umbral girder
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Magic Mouth doesn't cast a spell for you. It is a spell programmed to say a message when some one approaches or similar actions

potent vector
umbral girder
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You specifically need to speak for casting a spell.

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Thats why the silence spell prevents it.

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You need sound

rough basalt
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Notably Subtle Spell let's you cast while silenced too

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Since you don't need to speak.

umbral girder
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Yep as subtle spell removes the vocal component requirement

rough basalt
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Links are fine if they pertain to the conversation and follow the rules.

dim wasp
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Ok but the dragon always swallows mine

umbral girder
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The words themselves aren’t the source of the spell’s power; rather, the particular combination of sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads of magic in motion. Thus, a creature who is gagged or in an area of magical silence can’t cast a spell with a Verbal component.

rough basalt
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Links without text accompanying them get auto-modded I believe

umbral girder
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So yeah sign language isn't a bypass for vocal components.

rough basalt
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Cause random links are usually not something someone should click on (Bots ect.)

potent vector
glad ferry
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Could someone potentially have chantless spell casting?

umbral girder
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House Rules are very much homebrew

rough basalt
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It's a very powerful houserule at that

potent vector
dim wasp
umbral girder
potent vector
zealous jasper
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Question for you guys: i'm making a Campain for a OneShot: 1. should I let people create their own characters
2. Should I have then rdy at start?
3. Should I give them Guideline of what they can create? what do you guys think ?

rough basalt
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Generally speech is needed for spells cause they'd be too powerful if you could just do them.

glad ferry
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Ah got it. I havnt done to much with spell casters yet. I got a wizard and gonna use my bard soon probably

rough basalt
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Which is why Subtle takes a resource.

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Or other options are limited

dim wasp
rough basalt
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No

umbral girder
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Big no

potent vector
silk hare
rough basalt
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Cause then you'll be mad when the DM has a caster whisper PWK and you die cause you can't hear it to counterspell it.

dim wasp
rough basalt
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Power Word Kill

silk hare
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power word kill

dim wasp
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Ic

rough basalt
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Or worse Disintegrate.

dim wasp
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What's a typical owlbear behaviour

rough basalt
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Cause then your party will need a 7th level or higher spell to resurrect you

zealous jasper
silk hare
dim wasp
dim wasp
silk hare
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but yeah sure you CAN do that if you want

silk hare
potent vector
dim wasp
fast latch
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One of the players in my campaign is becoming the BBEG (Don’t worry, we all agreed on it) and I want to kill him before he kills a priestess NPC

He’s a Paladin of… Conquest, I think, who worships Cthulhu and has an AC of 20 at Level 4

How do me and my team take him out?

silk hare
rough basalt
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It doesn't care. It thinks like an animal.

dim wasp
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Or it could be stunned

rough basalt
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It's like two to three times your size.

dim wasp
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Or something lmao

silk hare
rough basalt
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If you could stun that easily dnd would be an absolute mess.

dim wasp
zealous jasper
rough basalt
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Then don't go into an owlbears territory

dim wasp
rough basalt
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It still probably eats you

glad ferry
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What are the general rules of players using sneak attack?

silk hare
fast latch
rough basalt
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Just glad you're letting it do it

dim wasp
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Also aren't they meant to be neutrally aligned @rough basalt

silk hare
rough basalt
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They're unaligned iirc

potent vector
dim wasp
silk hare
fast latch
silk hare
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just means theres no malicious intent behind it

zealous jasper
rough basalt
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Unaligned means they act purely on their nature.

silk hare
rough basalt
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And an Owlbears nature is to eat, sleep repeat.

glad ferry
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So a chaotic neutral

rough basalt
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Nah chaotic neutral assumes choice

silk hare
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why chaotic?

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yeah

glad ferry
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Or pure neutral?

zealous jasper
rough basalt
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That's still choice

potent vector
umbral girder
rough basalt
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I had a party with mostly Necrotic Resistance so when they got hit by a 7th level Necrotic spell, that scared them.

zealous jasper
rough basalt
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Clothing doesn't stop Frost damage lol

potent vector
zealous jasper
rough basalt
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All clothing, specifically "Winter Clothes" does is negate the Extreme Cold environmental hazard

umbral girder
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Yeah only the enviromental ones not the damage ones

rough basalt
glad ferry
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Its a resistance basically removes disadvantage

zealous jasper
rough basalt
potent vector
umbral girder
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Notably cold resistance does make you immune to Extreme Cold weather too

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Per the DMG

zealous jasper
errant crag
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Just having resistance be ignored sounds a lot worse to me than just not allowing them to have that resistance

umbral girder
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Yeah players get abilities because they want to use them not be ignored

potent vector
glad ferry
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Every now and then a creature that avoids that rsisitanxe sure

potent vector
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And only if the MAJORITY have it I think it should be used anyway.

errant crag
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"Hey guys, cold resistance would kind of trivialize a lot of things in this game so please don't play a race with cold resistance"

All you gotta do

dim wasp
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Btw is it just me or is there always some kind of power struggle or politics in The Northern Region/Tundra/Mountain regions

rough basalt
errant crag
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Way better than letting them take it and ignoring it

zealous jasper
earnest crest
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I don’t dm often but I usually try to have every enemy my players face have at least 3 different damage types

umbral girder
errant crag
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D&D is not real life

dim wasp
rough basalt
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Yes, and Cold exhausts your body of its energy to stay alive and prevent hypothermia.

umbral girder
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Even the Dragon turtle one doesn't by pass fire resistance normal. It only bypasses Water giving resistance

rough basalt
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Which is what DnDs extreme cold hazard is based off of

zealous jasper
dim wasp
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🦣

potent vector
rough basalt
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Resource deprivation is a common issue in inhospitable places.

glad arch
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If anything lots of ore is a great reason to have power struggles over an area

rough basalt
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Yeah, if there's an outside entity that's willing to trade food and other resources for that ore. You're gonna want that ore.

earnest crest
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Out of my 10 different characters I’ve used 5 were Goliaths and the cold resistance usually comes up for like 3 sessions then doesn’t get used for a while

glad arch
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Any damage resistance tbf

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Except maybe fire

dim wasp
rough basalt
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Ye PC damage resistances are pretty negligible. Even in games where the damage is used alot.

errant crag
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I'm playing a Sea Elf in a Rime of the Frostmaiden game and the cold resistance comes up a fair bit but not nearly enough that it's trivializing anything

dim wasp
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Also fishing exists @potent vector

zealous jasper
glad arch
rough basalt
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Cause just cause Jim resists Necrotic doesn't mean Bim, Gim and Lim do too

earnest crest
errant crag
glad arch
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I am yet to use my shadar kai necrotic resistance in like a dozen sessions

zealous jasper
rough basalt
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Also players can get resistances to all damage types as a game goes on with enough money.

errant crag
dim wasp
zealous jasper
rough basalt
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Like I was in a t4 game where we all had a lot of resistances and it was still nightmarish cause the enemies did force damage and a lot of the damage we resisted.

dim wasp
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Sora

errant crag
silk hare
dim wasp
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Rewind back to the owlbear scenario, let's say I turn into one (baby) would it be able to tell me apart by scent or no

rough basalt
silk hare
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neither does getting pierced by an icicle or sth similar

dim wasp
rough basalt
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Cause it exudes heat hot enough to burn people within 5ft of it. It's bite burns too.

silk hare
errant crag
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Yes

silk hare
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ok and?

rough basalt
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Babies can recognize suff.

dim wasp
errant crag
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Animals can recognize their own

dim wasp
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But what if it doesn't know it's me

silk hare
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owlbears are not "stupid" just bc they are animals

errant crag
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Animals are not brainless automatons they form relationships

silk hare
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sure there are species that also care for them, but it is a known phenomenon

rough basalt
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In the same way a baby can recognize its mom even tho it won't remember why, same thing happens with all animals that have a familial structure.

dim wasp
zealous jasper
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@rough basalt do you DM?

rough basalt
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Yes.

still plover
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Some animals will eat the young of others. Others will adopt anything.

errant crag
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It depends on so many more things than just those

silk hare
rough basalt
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I think they're omnivores.

still plover
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Owlbears, ask your DM. Maybe it's a Nature check?

dim wasp
dim wasp
errant crag
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Does the new MM finally make Owlbears into beasts instead of monstrosities?

zealous jasper
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@rough basalt I'm doing a VTT campain, do you think the visuel have more impact then dice for picking Something / choose something ?

dim wasp
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Can you tame an owlbear

silk hare
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the map? the drawn characters in the phb?

still plover
silk hare
errant crag
zealous jasper
dim wasp
silk hare
silk hare
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if thats all, you could just describe it with words

rough basalt
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I think their criteria for a beast is whether it came naturally with the world or is an unnatural being that originated from artificial changes

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Since the most common lore for how an owlbear was created was an Owl and a Bear being melded together with magic.

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By a Wizard who was bored or insane.

dim wasp
still plover
zealous jasper
silk hare
rough basalt
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Most DnD settings are roughly Renaissance eraesque.

rough basalt
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The common person might be pretty dumb but there's plenty of smart people.

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Roughly yeah

zealous jasper
silk hare
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alright, I mean u do u, I personally dont think it is necessary to that extent and would slow down gameplay a bunch

still plover
zealous jasper
still plover
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"Ooh sowee, I picked lake by acci-dent!"

rough basalt
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I'd avoid trying to code your own modules or using "do your own work" kinda modules when starting out.

zealous jasper
atomic kayak
still plover
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Yeah, I think it's going to be more fuss than it's worth.

zealous jasper
rough basalt
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I'd expect a huge mess if you're splitting the party in a one shot and coding yourself in foundry as a beginner unless you are someone who does coding for a living then just a mess probably.

earnest crest
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Hey I got a question regarding rules

still plover
zealous jasper
earnest crest
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As a large creature Goliath can I throw a medium creature 30ft

atomic kayak
# atomic kayak Now, thats a nice thought but unfortunately not the case

A lot of things in 5e that should be beasts are monstrosities for 2 simple(ish) reasons

1 reason is Moon druids
The other is "by all rights these should be beasts but are slightly magical/supernatural so we are going to inconsistently apply the monstrosity label to some but not all of these"

glass ravine
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Have you guys ever had to deal with people who deliberately try to get Paladins to break their oaths?

zealous jasper
rough basalt
glass ravine
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Party members, not DMs.

thorn wedge
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Beasts are non humanoid creatures natural to this plane in 5e. Interestingly there are a couple other categories that potentially do come from this plane and are natural entities, such as oozes and plants.

Anything else is either a humanoid, from another plane, or a sentient racial category such as dragon giant etc.

still plover
rough basalt
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Everyone's got their very messy one shot. It's a canon event

zealous jasper
atomic kayak
rough basalt
atomic kayak
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It is natural. Naturally magical

zealous jasper
valid geyser
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the thing with giant eagles, vultures, and owls not being beasts feels like a weirdly deliberate design choice so druids dont have high CR flyers

rough basalt
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Can't effectively have an airship

umbral girder
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Also they got a lore thing by being from another plane

umbral girder
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Beastlands being silly

glass ravine
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I specifically had a halfling monk with a Giant Eagle mount years ago and now they're monsters?!

rough basalt
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I think part of 5.5e was trying to cut out all the easy accesses to permanent flight they could.

atomic kayak
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Reminder many of these things were "magical beasts" in previous edition - still not monstrosities

With the simplification of creature types that 5e did, most magical beasts would've still made the most sense to be "Beasts"

When I say "It's moon druid's fault" I am being 100% serious. That is basically the main reason that things are not beasts

rough basalt
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True.

glad arch
severe herald
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I have returned.

rough basalt
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Still a skill issue on their part. I'd just kill the moon druid in the dms game if I was the monster and get my beast tag back.

severe herald
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I hope everyone is well.

glass ravine
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AH, is that why Beast of the Air/Land/Sea can only be up to medium size?

rough basalt
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But yeah the reality is if Moon Druid could turn into most of the "Monstrosities" it'd be a balance nightmare

glass ravine
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To limit access to them as mounts?

thorn wedge
rough basalt
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In 5.5 Giant Eagles are Celestials from the Beastlands. And Vultures are monstrosities.

glass ravine
woven flint
rough basalt
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Like there's 92 Beasts in 5.5e MM

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So if you add the like 40 Monstrosities that could be on that list too

thorn wedge
rough basalt
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I think it's also why Druid forms got a limit.

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No druid needs 92 statblocks.

woven flint
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Giant Vultures are Monstrosities in 2024 rules

atomic kayak
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Not saying that every monstrosity should be a beast (a lot of them could also be other things)

glad arch
glass ravine
rough basalt
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Which is roughly the amount of WS forms most Druids used in 2014 overall.

glass ravine
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This is a lot to get used to. I haven't done D&D in a few years and was on the 5e rules when I last did a campaign.

rough basalt
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They either used it for subclass abilities, bird for scouting or Bear

glad arch
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Probably but versatility is nice

atomic kayak
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Its just that, even in 2014, 5e was using Monstrosity as a bit of a dumping ground creature type.

Things that didn't fit (or in the case of magical beasts, couldn't be) another creature type got lumped into it

2024 moved away from that a bit, by making some things into other types (iirc we got some shifted appropriately into things like aberrations), but then it also didn't, by doing stuff like the Giant Vulture

rough basalt
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You get more forms

woven flint
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I like the idea of the CIrcle Of Titan Unearthed Arcana for Druids being Monstroisity based, even if its just with its own statblocks
I think it needs a few tweaks though

rough basalt
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You get up to 8 forms total at level 8

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Which is more than you'll actually use

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You can also change 1 on an LR

woven flint
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I've got some DIA tonight lol
More of my bugbear ranger

atomic kayak
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incidentally, the creature type thing is another reason I am sad that moon druids didn't get the template they tried in the UA

umbral girder
woven flint
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I've been playing him for a few sessions

rough basalt
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Ultimately Druid was one of those "if my player knows how to use me its game over" kinda classes.

woven flint
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As you can imagine
Bugbear Gloomstalker

rough basalt
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It relied a lot on it being a lot of words to deter the average 5e player

woven flint
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His name Is Bogey
"BO-gee"

rough basalt
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But in the right hands, Druids could kinda just rule the game.

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Scout with Bird, use Spike Growth, repeat.

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Scout with Bird. Drop 8 velociraptors on people.

umbral girder
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Thoughts on Ranger so far Tokii?

woven flint
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I feel like the only reason I'm enjoying ranger is because of Bugbear Surprise Attack lol (We're only level 4 atm though)

thorn wedge
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You’d think they would have done something about wizards if that was the case

errant crag
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I'm playing a Ranger but haven't had the chance to do much with my class features it's been fairly roleplay heavy

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I used Goodberry to heal an injured NPC

rough basalt
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It's cause most people don't know how to really use wizards to an unhealthy degree. Same with druids.

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The 5.5 changes removed a lot of the unhealthiness tho

woven flint
rough basalt
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Like no more 2 fighter dipping to just instawipe an encounter

royal gorge
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D&D 5.5e Illusionist Wizard/Ranger is actually pretty good at control, but man, does it rely on the DM knowing a lot about how the rules work, and some DM listening to the players' reasoning. Reason: Minor Illusion. Use it to create a temporary cover to create a crate using Minor Illusion (If your character's species is small enough to fit under the Minor Illusion) or to create a Minor Illusion to distract the bad guys for a turn.

rough basalt
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God I wish someone would be an illusionist

tame cloak
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Hello there

royal gorge
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I love Illusionists myself in D&D 5.5e, but man every time I show people that video, bam, I get hit with, "They know your casting an illusion." 😛

rough basalt
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But last one I had didn't know how to play Wizard and dumped Dex and Con

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So they were always down then died instantly

atomic kayak
earnest crest
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My play style is mostly just hit things with sharp objects hence why my main classes are fighter, paladin

royal gorge
thorn wedge
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Feel like dex is a fair dump for a wizard, not con though.

woven flint
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Closest things I've played to an Illusionist-esque character are

An Aasimar Aberrant Mind Sorcerer who I limited to only taking
Divinations, Illusions and Enchantments (and spells that Do Radiant, Force or Psychic damage)

And
A Trickery Cleric lol

rough basalt
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Tokiis Fighter when he fights the Illusion Lich in my world and it's like Spiderman fighting Mysterio.

umbral girder
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Sounds like Tokii dying to another Lich

atomic kayak
royal gorge
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Yes. 😛 That.

atomic kayak
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Very different things

woven flint
errant crag
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Something I always hate is people casting minor illusion right in front of enemies or in combat and being like "They are required to make a check to tell if it's real and have to treat it like it is until they do" and I just don't believe that's how it works

royal gorge
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In D&D 5.5e, obscurement affects visibility and can provide advantages or disadvantages in combat. For example, heavily obscured areas can make it difficult for creatures to see, impacting their ability to target opponents effectively.

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Thanks for the clarfication. 😄

umbral girder
woven flint
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Well, one basically killed himself AND a Lich

rough basalt
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The illusion lich doing the Hakari dance after killing Orizontas but the party thinks it's an illusion so they attack the actual illusions

atomic kayak
royal gorge
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Usually, when I have the Obscurment, my DM's usually say, "You are not obscured. The DM knows you are casting an illusion, and your illusion is dispelled." I have had a few DM's say otherwise, but it's usually not the case.

tame cloak
royal gorge
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Obscured 5.5e Rules
You have Disadvantage on Wisdom (Perception) checks to see something in a Lightly Obscured space. See also “Dim Light” and “Playing the Game” (“Exploration”).

woven flint
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I think its weird to instantly assume someone is creating an illusion when conjurations exist and you could very well pass them off as those

rough basalt
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Me when I realize I have to code my liches into foundry to not be nightmares technologically to run.

atomic kayak
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Theres a lot of reasons that creating a minor illusion of a box or whatever is liable to fail.
Perhaps not instantly, but quickly.

royal gorge
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Ya. For a turn it would last.

atomic kayak
atomic kayak
rough basalt
errant crag
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It's like how we were in a cave/tunnel with Gnolls in it and we're running away and the Warlock cast Minor Illusion to create the illusion of a wall blocking off the tunnel. He insisted that every Gnoll would have to make its own check to see that it's an illusion, I (another player in this) felt that they would all be able to know it was after seeing the first Gnoll walk through it.

woven flint
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Oh, this is random
But I may or may not have made a Himbo Firbolg Bard by accident

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the Profile Picture I'm using for him...

royal gorge
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Physical interaction with minor illusion reveals it to be illusory to anyone who witnesses that revelation
Sage Advice.

rough basalt
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Tbf casting a spell in front of someone as the illusion appears. It's either an illusion or a conjuration.

errant crag
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Definitely worth giving it a poke to find out

woven flint
rough basalt
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The enemies aren't blind to you waving your hands and stuff appearing.

royal gorge
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Ya. Treant Monk on YouTube talks about Minior Illusion talks about it a lot. He suggests casting it behind a door a lot. And it is a silent spell.

woven flint
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(Orizontas has like... almost NO magical knowledge despite having an entire party that is capable of using magic lol)

tame cloak
rough basalt
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If it's like an illusion of a fighter I'd probably have a lot of enemies attack it thinking its a conjured soldier first.

woven flint
royal gorge
thorn wedge
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My ruling on an illusion if it’s big enough a creature can hide behind is that it conceals but does not protect a target. This would mean attacks against it get disadvantage.

This is different from something like mold earth, that could create cover of some kind.

errant crag
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Because he insisted each Gnoll would need to make its own check to know it's an illusion

royal gorge
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Treantmonk's Temple*

errant crag
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But the check is only to discern if it's an illusion without physically interacting with it

rough basalt
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Yeah you can just smack it

errant crag
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Gnolls barreling down a tunnel at fleeing adventurers may not even register that a wall has appeared

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And even so they're likely to just ram into it I feel

rough basalt
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Like Honor Among Thieves movie perfectly showcases what an illusion in dnd looks like.

tame cloak
rough basalt
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Looks completely normal until you touch it and it breaks apart like.

tame cloak
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I feel you man, the blend of RP and meta can be annoying sometimes

rough basalt
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But if it's cast right in front of someone, the deductive reasoning kicks in.

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Cause part of tabletop rpgs is that the dm is not coded to be an idiot or omniscient of stuff going on.
If someone robs an empty house, there's not gonna be a guard teleporting inside going "stop you've violated the law"

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Or the enemies aren't gonna go "never should've come here" and run into the spike growth killing themselves

thorn wedge
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I would probably let it happen, rule of cool once or so. If a player was regularly using it as a tactic there would be some caveats and general logic being used.

rough basalt
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I mean they could, but it's not compelled and it makes the game worse if done as anything but a one time gag against bethesda.

atomic kayak
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Theres a number of things in the game (stealth, illusions, among others) where there is a shocking amount of people who expect like. Videogame logic. From NPCs. When they do things with those abilities and stuff

errant crag
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It always bothers me when that happens

atomic kayak
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Like "must've been the wind" type stuff from skyrim where you can crouch behind someone after they see you

errant crag
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Or people wanting stuff like Shape Water ice cube crushing to work

atomic kayak
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different type of person

errant crag
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The DM isn't an AI forced to run things that are technically RAW

rough basalt
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Like I had a cleric ruin a deception attempt by the party cause he thought he could cast guidance in front of the bandits without repercussions

atomic kayak
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Similar certainly, but different

errant crag
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Well I'm comparing it in the sense it's people expecting the DM to let it happen because of wording

thorn wedge
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There’s a lot of things that logically make sense but raw doesn’t allow simply because it doesn’t say it does.

rough basalt
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Like they were trying to deceive the bandits into thinking they were captured by the bandits (one pc disguised).
They were skeptical of how one newbie took down all the adventurers so I called for deception.

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Cleric then starts fortnite dancing as a gold light flies to the Disguised PC.

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That's a joke way to put it. What actually happened is just as blatant in context.

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The prisoner touches his captor on the shoulders and casts a spell in front of them that doesn't do anything they can see.

royal gorge
# atomic kayak Theres a number of things in the game (stealth, illusions, among others) where t...

I agree with you comment, but even though you don't get directly cover from casting Minor Illusion and an attack can go through it.
I would still rule that as long as a creature doesn't know it is an illusion then the object created should be treated as the real thing for those creatures and therefore if used in the right way, it could provide cover, let me try to explain my thinking.

So if you create lets say a 5ft high and wide boulder (withing what Minor Illusion can create), then everyone who has not used their action to find out if it is an illusion or not, would beleive that there really is a big boulder where you cast the spell (even if they saw you cast it and the boulder was not there before).

My character is lets say 6ft tall and now walks up and stands behind this boulder. Everyone who has not seen through the illusion now thinks that I stand behind a big boulder and would therefore have to aim at the parts of my character they can see to hit me. (Or use a small-sized character to hide behind a crate).

I would in such case rule that the character has at least half-cover, or maybe even three-quarters cover from ranged attacks made by anyone who has still not seen though the illusion.

An ranged attack that would have hit you if not for the cover of the illusion, then passes through the illusion, and the creature who made the attack now knows it is an illusion and you don't get cover bonus against that creature's next attack.
Melee fighters would also think it is there and might have to use extra movement to reach you, or force them to move another route so you won't be attacked by them.

Thats how I would rule it at my table.

errant crag
royal gorge
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From the DnDBeyond forum, which most people agreed too.

rough basalt
dim wasp
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I'm genuinely curious

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Do ya all have a party which has like a parent in it (figuratively)

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This is more in regards to the characters

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Characters personality

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Testing

royal gorge
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As in do the characters have a character that has a parent? I've seen the mother-daughter dynamic between characters before. I've seen real-life players play with their kids, therefore they play as mother and daughter in-game or father and son in-game. Or say the character takes on one of the characters as the son or daughter (As in your friends are your family you choose). I have seen that dynamic play out too.

tame cloak
rough basalt
tame cloak
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Like, in pinks example, would the gnolls not try to touch the random walls that appeared on front of them when they swore they're wasn't one there before?

rough basalt
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Yeah sure cause 1, it's not real or 2 it's real and they need to get past it somehow

tame cloak
dim wasp
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Personality wise

rough basalt
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If you could just charm people in conversations without any repercussions it'd be a mess.

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And of course the players would get upset when "oh the lich used sign language to cast disintegrate roll a new PC"

royal gorge
tame cloak
proper forum
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Today another campaign ended. I am happy.

glad arch
proper forum
rough basalt
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Without visible components Counterspell doesn't work

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That's part of why spellcasting is blatant

remote wadi
proper forum
tame cloak
# rough basalt You can counterspell it

Could a player be blocked off from counter spelling an illusion if their character doesn't realise it's an illusion? I guess you'd roll a deception check, but I find the scenario intriguing

dim wasp
tame cloak
rough basalt
proper forum
tame cloak
rough basalt
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To not be counterspelled you gotta stay outta range or outta sight completely

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Also if it's a mage that can cast Counterspell they're more likely to know whether it's an illusion or not.

dim wasp
royal gorge
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"I did it... I killed a dragon... I KILLED A DRAGON! I really killed a dragon! Now I can call myself a true knight!
...Are you proud of me?"
-My paladin character, after the final fight of the campaign, talking to his dead fiancée

dim wasp
tame cloak
# proper forum Bro I killed a dragon

Did you command word it into a volcano? Stab a cursed great sword through its chest? Charm it into rethinking its entire life until it eventually develops a major midlife crisis until it decides to cough fail its own death saving throw on purpose cough

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Come on dude, spill

dim wasp
tame cloak
rough basalt
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The unfortunate reality is Illusion magic relies so much on the players intelligence and the DM not being an a-hole

rough basalt
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But for fairness the DM also has to be willing to be the "ahole"

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tame cloak
thorn wedge
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Illusion magic just clearly wasn’t intended to be a reliable combat tool, it is definitely a tool of occasional creativity and occasional rule of cool thing.

tame cloak
narrow delta
rough basalt
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It's very much a school of magic for certain situations

plain forge
dim wasp
rough basalt
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Like games with a lot of Stealth and Urban adventures Illusion can really shine.

rough basalt
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Like an example.
Players need into a cities armory.
Player comes up acting like a drunk who got lost distracting the guards.

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While they're not looking and from a distance enough away, cast an Illusion of a very scary creature. In this situation I'd rule the guards probably run for backup.

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Cause they're wagies they don't wanna die to a dragon

dim wasp
proper forum
# tame cloak I love the trope of trying to find acceptance of oneself or redemption under the...

Long story short he used to be a noble knight, engaged to a noble lady. A vampire attacked the county. The vampire killed his fiancee. He tried to kill the vampire, he bit him and turned him into a dhampir. So he hated his current existence, being a literal monster avoided by everyone which he never intended to become. But still he remains good and loyal to his oath and resorts to hiding in the woods and helping the innocent from the shadows. He remains eternally loyal to his lover and swore to never love another. Really, he was just searching for a purpose in life.

tame cloak
royal gorge
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Does Power Word Kill require a line of sight on a target? If so, I got an awesome defense using Minor Illusion.

dim wasp
proper forum
rough basalt
narrow delta
royal gorge
rough basalt
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Nah wait it's sight only

proper forum
rough basalt
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They don't need to hear it.

tame cloak
royal gorge
narrow delta
jolly agate
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Is it true that Goblins build most of the dungeons or smth?

rough basalt
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No

narrow delta
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Depends on the setting

remote wadi
tame cloak
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I like how despite "dungeons" being in the name, most of the popular campaigns aren't set in dungeons

glad ferry
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So question. Is forgotten realms separate from other books in dnd?

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remote wadi
rough basalt
remote wadi
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Okay, I did see the TLDR

tame cloak
remote wadi
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A little confused how resurrection was not available

narrow delta
glad ferry
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Dungeons are one of my favorite parts. Building them is so much fun not knowing how it will turn out

rough basalt
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Not really. There's a philosophy called "everythings a dungeon"

royal gorge
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Minor Illusion allows the creation of a 5-foot illusory object: can I hide behind this object (wall/crate/anything) and gain advantage vs. creatures who can't see past the illusion?

If so, given that examining the illusion requires an action, am I guaranteed to have advantage at least until their turn arrives?

Can you hide behind the illusion? Probably. Can you get advantage just for being behind it? Probably not unless you're a halfling.

Here's the problem, ultimately, you're only creating a 5' cube. That's probably not enough to hide behind without an actual stealth check.

Basically, you need to completely block line of sight from the creature you want advantage on, to yourself. You also, theoretically need to maintain said blockage of line of sight to your opponent until the moment you attack...

The way this probably works best is if you're a halfling and cast this the turn before. Then you could duck back, and shoot through the illusion with advantage.

For a normal sized character, without an action to hide, I'd probably not allow you to remove yourself from LOS behind the illusion (that's not to say that it doesn't block). Most characters are over 5' tall (a huge swath of humans are, like probably 80% or more, and likely even more adventuring humans). That means that even though you only take up a 5' cube in game space, you'd be seen over an illusory one. You'd get cover...but the thing is an illusion so if you're shot at, I'd give the creature the impression you had cover, but none would be applied to the attack (or maybe half the cover number, so -1 or -2 instead of -2/-5). Advantage on you attacks though, not so much.

However, if you're willing to spend the action (to make a dex(stealth) check) to hide, I'd acknowledge that, because you're actually spending a whole action, and that is modeled by being quiet, stepping softly, and possibly crouching behind an illusory object.

So yes, the wall is opaque, and you'd be able to hide behind it/have advantage from attacks (technically, if it was a real object, they wouldn't be able to target you..I'd allow the targeting)...but only if you completely fit behind it, and that's not the case for most PCs.

RPG Stock Exchange answer for the D&D 2014 rules.

rough basalt
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If there's a place where the players have to move, fight, do skill challenges, it's a dungeon.

glad ferry
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Cities act as them to in their own way. Many different things that can happen

narrow delta
rough basalt
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Yeah but why would you limit yourself to those only?

glad ferry
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It would be cool to have an ability to switch your place between clones or illusions

tame cloak
rough basalt
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Not really.
Like I had a Kobold cave that had 3 main open areas then the boss in 4th one behind a door.

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Basically a dungeon

tame cloak
narrow delta
rough basalt
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He mentioned earlier that Dungeons are limiting I think

tame cloak
royal gorge
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Cities? Built like dungeons? I can see this in the Underdark too.

tame cloak
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I just don't see em as a space that allows for a lot of creativity except for the occasional lever pull and giant door into a boss arena

narrow delta
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Oh I was talking about what @jolly agate asked

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Sorry

rough basalt
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Dungeons of Drakkenheim by the dungeon dudes, Drakkenheim itself is just a massive megadungeon

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Has social factions, environmental dangers

royal gorge
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Dungeons and Drakkenheim. Awesome! 😄

rough basalt
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It's a third-party I've heard nothing but great things about

narrow delta
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Some of their stuff is on dndb

glad ferry
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Just have them go into a dungeon full of illusions that doesnt even actually have enemies or bosses

tame cloak
glad ferry
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Or the little spirit things that can travel through walls and cause nightmares

glad ferry
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Could be fun lol

royal gorge
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Dude! Haha!

rough basalt
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It's a ruined city on the land that was destroyed by an eldritch meteor shower.

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So now it's basically a wasteland with monsters, crystals that drive you mad.

glad ferry
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And have the cave have a special effect that gives illusions a solid physical form just for kicks and giggles

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I have lots of plans for different possible things as im world building

feral fulcrum
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A 'Dungeon' can be lots of things, it need not be a cave, or monster infested underground ruin.

glad ferry
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Nope nope.tbats the fun of it

feral fulcrum
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Heck even a sufficiently large ship, full of hostiles and loot, classifies as a 'Dungeon'.

glad ferry
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One race that looks like fun to run is illafeds, intellect eaters, and the master brain

woven flint
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Illithids, Intellect Devourers and Elder brains?

glad ferry
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Yeah that part. Words escape my minf

woven flint
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its okay!

Have you ever seen an Elder Brain Dragon?

glad ferry
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Mind. So I go with general descriptions when I dont have reminders in front of me

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I have not

lethal bobcat
glad ferry
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Didnt even know an elder brain dragon was a thing. Sounds scary to

atomic kayak
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They would definitively 100% not get any cover bonuses

royal gorge
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I could imagine an elder brain dragon being woaaaaaah. o.0 Like woah dude! Like, totally awesome! 😛

woven flint
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Like, sitting on its back with tentacles in its body type of vibe, controlling it like a puppet

glad ferry
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That sounds like a major final boss hard to kill. Consider the elder brain itself already can boost armor over time

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So the drsgon pretty much acts as an extra layer of protection and doesnt damage the brain directly

woven flint
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Yeah, an Elder Brain is CR 14...
The Elder Brain Dragon is CR 22 .w.

errant crag
royal gorge
onyx haven
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The Elder Brain dragon is just so cool, I had to use one for a character backstory. lol

glad ferry
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Usually the creature rolls a wisdom or whatever the check is to see if they realize its an illusion or not sd soon as it comes to be

royal gorge
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Elder Brain Dragons do sound cool. 😛

woven flint
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Sadly, the Elder Brain Dragon statblock isn't that impressive 😔

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Its still a CR 22 Creature, but its not like.. flashy

royal gorge
glad ferry
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One id like is a blood dragon

still plover
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It's always worth talking over some of your illusions with the DM before the game.

feral fulcrum
onyx haven
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Mobile mindflayer printer though.

trim agate
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can i ask why some DMs do not like AI pictures for tokens/characters?

woven flint
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The Elder Brain dragon has a Mindflayer Tadpole breath attack though, if you fail the save against it, you become infested with Mindflayer Tadpoles and when you hit 0 Hp you begin to become a mindflayer over the course of time

errant crag
lethal bobcat
onyx haven
errant crag
feral fulcrum
glad ferry
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That is one crazy ability

errant crag
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I've seen people in this server call for violence against people who use AI

onyx haven
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If you get slimed by the Elderbrain dragon, you have been infested with tadpoles, and will become a Mindflayer now when you hit 0 HP.

trim agate
glad ferry
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What do people even have to do to get rid of a mindflayer tadpole?

trim agate
onyx haven
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In this instance, you either need something like remove curse or to crank 40hp of healing down your throat

woven flint
loud tendon
feral fulcrum
lethal bobcat
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I did use AI to try solo rpg and oof, it is so aggressively mid

onyx haven
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So like, you could set it up where this dragon is just going town to town, puking on everyone in sight, and now we have a mass conversion event.

errant crag
trim agate
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bet everybody uses a calculator though

errant crag
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Which is funny because I bet those same people don't get that up in arms about blue collar workers getting replaced by automation

feral fulcrum
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A calculator is a rather vastly different beast to AI however, so, poor comparison

glad ferry
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Just start an arc with the elder brain dragon using the breath in the middle of a festival where many are active

trim agate
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not really, i'm really bad at art so i get something to do it for me. If you're really bad at maths you get something to do it for you

loud tendon
errant crag
trim agate
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you have a tool to help people access a game then ban one of them, seems silly

loud tendon
feral fulcrum
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AI's, are more often then not, built up out of stolen data, at greast cost and environmental harm, for...more often then not "Trust me bro, I'm a Tech Bro, I know what the world needs, Ai is DAH FUTURE" "It's been like six years and we still can't find a use for this crap, we've blown billions on it, we're broke."

lethal bobcat
lethal bobcat
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I did read them, so that"s why seeing a staff member make that comment confused me

feral fulcrum
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But since we must drop the conversation now. I still wonder what the deal was with the Art of the uh... what did they call them...

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The Primal Dino's that are actually Monstrosities?

idle oar
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Anyway back to D&D

errant crag
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I'm not staff

idle oar
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That is not a staff member

lethal bobcat
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How is the name like that

idle oar
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Orange = moderators, Red = WoTC staff

errant crag
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If they made me staff it would be hilarious

spring spear
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So what’s the limit to how many false hydras I can have in a session?

trim agate
idle oar
royal gorge
idle oar
feral fulcrum
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I still don't get the fixation with False Hydras

errant crag
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I think one false hydra is enough to make the game not fun

jolly agate
lethal bobcat
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Gradient

loud tendon
spring spear
jolly agate
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There must be someone that builds the dungeons

royal gorge
lethal bobcat
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Only staff can set colours right?

errant crag
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Names like mine just mean the user is both a DM and player

jolly agate
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You can't tell me that they just, yk. Spawn outa knowhere

royal gorge
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Oh. o.0

jolly agate
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At least not the Mega Dungeons

lethal bobcat
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New features confuse me

royal gorge
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Wait a minute. o.0 Oh I see now what your meaning. Haha!

jolly canyon
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Woah

royal gorge
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So, you see how mine is glowing? Kind'a?

narrow delta
lethal bobcat
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Gradient yes

jolly canyon
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I wonder if mine would look like that if my name was longer

errant crag
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It would

royal gorge
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Ya. I think you can set that on Discord. You may be able to set that as an admin or owner of a Discord member too within a Discord server for others, but I'm not sure. I think I have mine set to purple on my Discord profile? One sec.

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Ya. Mine inside of the Discord server is kind'a greenish (teal?). On my profile it's either white or purple. I can't tell which. 🙂

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There is a looooooot of Fearun lore.

Ebberon is one of my favorite settings. Haha! That and Planescape. Ooooo! Do I ever love me some Planescape lore! 😄

fickle heart
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It's definitely not for every group, though.

crimson gulch
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And I have done it, I have booked my first Adnd 1e game

jolly canyon
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That's dope! Gotta let us know how it goes

umbral girder
royal gorge
strong wave
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How do I calculate HP for a sixth level fighter without rolling

crimson gulch
strong wave
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Thank you urizt

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Wait do I add con per level

crimson gulch
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Yes

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So if they have 14 con that's a total of 52

crimson gulch
strong wave
umbral girder
strong wave
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Thank you nealen

umbral girder
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So if you got a +2 con that is 12+ (8 x 5) =52

royal gorge
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There is a a pretty good article by the Arcane Eye that teaches you how to do it for the 2024 rules (D&D 5.5e). That way, you'll know what goes into it for Fighter, and for other classes. Or if you multiclass later on. It has a calculator for it too, if you're in a pinch.

umbral girder
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Basically it’s half the max roll of the dice + 1 for the average

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So d10 dudes it’s 5+1 for 6
D8 is 4+1 for 5 etc etc

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Level 1 is just a max roll

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The PHB 2024 also just has a table for it too for all core 12 classes

royal gorge
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Peeps. You all take care. I got'a head out. I got'a get ready for Baulder's Gate III with a buddy of mine.

silk hare
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so e.g. for D10=

(1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10)/10= 5.5 --> rounded to 6

severe herald
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Yoo.

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I was talking to someone here about dice..

silk hare
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alright, what kind of dice?

severe herald
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I am very proud 🍈

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Water and ice~

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Anyway, how yall doin?

strong wave
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I have to make a 6th level 5e character by 4pm tomorrow is it possible

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I have executive dysfunction and building a character always seems so tough

silk hare
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oh just 1? easily possible

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just ping me or sth

strong wave
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Okay I'm not doing it now but in a. Few hours I might ping you

worn crow
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Oh, yeah, that is very possible, especially if you're using DnDB

gloomy notch
strong wave
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I am procrastinating

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I hate paperwork

umbral girder
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DnD beyond has a quick character maker

silk hare
worn crow
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Fair, but making sheets isn't too bad. You doing it manually or using DDB?

strong wave
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Oh okay

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Manually

worn crow
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Ahhh, little bit more of a lengthy process but still more than possible

umbral girder
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Oh boy good luck

worn crow
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You can ping me in the character discussion chat if you'd like, I can help you out whenever you start

strong wave
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Thank you pandora

knotty vine
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Who know

glad ferry
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What types of characters do you find most difficult to deal with, or the players themselves? For me its the few who don't do anything to help progress

remote wadi
lethal bobcat
severe herald
rough basalt
paper portal
empty thicket
fossil hollow
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why are they asking the others for a reason

empty thicket
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that ones are special creatures.

rough basalt
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Characters that won't do anything or interact with anything royally tick me off

severe herald
rough basalt
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Cause I dont wanna have to play the game for the players

lethal bobcat
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My only experience with a bad player was when someone started at level 1 with AC 21 and the DM did allow it so encounters were weird

empty thicket
rough basalt
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21 flat AC im trying to figure out

severe herald
knotty vine
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dude i absolutely love potent dragon marks

rough basalt
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20AC is doable easily

knotty vine
lethal bobcat
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Some construct race or one of the unfeeling races

knotty vine
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oh wait flat

severe herald
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Dare you venture into the hall of the Developer? CR30 🍈

knotty vine
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idk

rough basalt
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Warforged with defense style, chain mail and shield is 20

empty thicket
errant crag
rough basalt
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so im wondering where the extra 1 is coming from

severe herald
rough basalt
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Unless the dm let them start with splint mail which is insane

knotty vine
lethal bobcat
knotty vine
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Some dms allowed that even through

severe herald
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No players at that level.

severe herald
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You're dealing with DMs.

lethal bobcat
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Didn't the Noble background give 500 extra gold?

rough basalt
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No

lethal bobcat
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Oh wait 2014 didn't have set amounts of gold did it

severe herald
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(Also players too I am lying it is a trap 🍈 )

rough basalt
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No background gives 500 gold lol

empty thicket
severe herald
lethal bobcat
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If it hasn't been years, I'd love to know lol

severe herald
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If so, you have enough expirence.

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You gain expirence by doing.

empty thicket
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But im planning to start with a CoS and later get some time to build one campaign in mind

severe herald
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Nice.

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I've written two RPGs.

rough basalt
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But yeah if someones getting 21 flat AC at level 1 somethings going on

severe herald
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I want more people to write too.

empty thicket
paper portal
lethal bobcat
rough basalt
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They invested into it

woven flint
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The BBEG was Arby's all along