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The players make some new lore up be ready to make it part of the lore for the fun of it.
Most encounters are Moderate/Medium difficulty, Boss fights are High/Deadly Difficulty
and lastly read the DMG or at least skim it page to page.
what does the rate mean?
wym?
like $25 per person
OH some games like to have people pay for their games.
that its a paid game, you pay 25$ per session
ohh
This. Talkative invested players will give you more ammo and ideas than books sometimes
if a player is like "huh we havent had to deal with any traps lately" be like "hmm you're right" adds rolling ball in next dungeon
Listened to a game where a guy mentioned “King Great the Legend once wielded this” and the DM made that the actual king
Watching World of Io has taught me how fun and useful it is to use the stuff players say in-game at some point
“Mini boss with a 10ft pole” moment
Except in Tokiis case half the time he says stuff ive already written down and haven't revealed yet
You’ve gotta have one player who’s already read your notes
You need to have one, it simply must be
“I am 5 alternate universes ahead of you”
I do love the thing of “oh you’re making up a knight? Awesome this is now the fourth most important knight to ever live”
"we havent fought undead yet this campaign have we?"
Me getting the a Wight led undead attack to bond the new pcs with the old ones encounter set up: "Nah you haven't"
What creature types haven’t my players fought yet
Ooze
Haven’t fought many constructs or oozes
They’re levelled out of most oozes
They’re level 7 now
Oblex
Blob of Annihilation crashes into the planet
Compelling arguments
Cr10 elder Oblex
Y'all I'm excited for my bbeg fight lol
My monday game i think havent encountered oozes
Wednesday has been the elements, crazy people, and the occasional ooze or monstrosity
I was about to say that an elder ooblex isn’t all that, what with it having 100hp and an AC 16, but my god that’s a solid dpr
Hey, he was a humble merchant
I never said he wasn’t
Tho if he wasn't amused by the audacity to try and hustle him it wouldnt have ended well for the fighter
True. He was a harmless misunderstood mummy lord.
Anyway let’s get our fire damage ready /jk
burn
Im getting kinda angry at myself for my wednesday game
I marketed it as weekly, but its been closer to bi-weekly cause I get paid in illness bi-weekly
oof
Tho this time its not like i had any control of it, yesterday my power was out all night while I was asleep I think, and all day and it was freezing temperatures
Dont you have a human heart
Nah it was taken from me.
I feel bad because I also end up not being able to attend weekly on the Wednesday game.
School is bullying me
same, i plan to join a bunch of games during the summer
Cant wait for dnd this week
I should be fine once the weather stabilizes
Given the power company doesnt get bored again and turn off the power on a subfreezing day
Shoutout to Zariel. a Combined stat total of 162
It doesn’t matter
Sup lads 
The sky
latest update: it one-shot the death star with a dropkick at mach speed
I want to make a character who’s scared of literally everything but is so incredibly lucky and accidentally succeeds
Even better. Wild magic sorcerer
i feel like wild magic sorcerers can be really unlucky
but ya they can change rolls
one of the wild magic surge table options is to just blow up
That was changed int he new rules
Amazingly I got really lucky when I hit the surge that makes you continuously roll on the table for the following minute, I somehow got sent to the astral plane 3 times
And one of those times I had the surge that makes everything around you take 1d10(?) necrotic damage so nobody got hurt 😭
I did turn into a potted plant at one point though .
But again! Outside of combat which is the best time for that!
Other than +3 moon sickle what is the next best very rare magic item for druids?
What would you guys consider to be a good ac at first level?
Depends on your class and what you're building for
Good point
I was just asking because my dm is kinda frustrated because at first level my ac is 18
I'm searching for a campaign for me and my homie rn and I am GENUINELY gonna lose it if i see ONE more art scam
Halfling divination wizard, with lucky and halfling luck
For feats
Tons of rerolls and luck flavor options
My god this is evil
atp why even let the dm roll anything lmao
I’m gonna assume you’re playing barbarian or paladin because of this ac
without shield spell for the more bulky classes, with shield spell for spellcasters such as wizards

nope, forge cleric, any class that has shield (item) proficiency + tortle e.g.
fighters, paladins etc
15+ in my opinion. level 1 enemies don't usually have a huge bonus to hit so 15 is pretty solid
Oh yeah I forgot about Tortle
highest theoretical AC iirc is sth around 32 at lvl 1
not possible solo tho ofc
you need some spells cast on you too
Via shield of faith I can make my ac 20 at level 1
have someone cast haste on you too
I'm assuming fighter, cleric or paladin with heavy armor?
Yeah it’s paladin
medium armor works easily
Paladin mains rise up 🔥
14+2(dex)+2(shield)
Deus valt
Could you have 20 AC at level 1 without spells if you make a warforged with heavy armor?
vult*
The one weakness of paladins that comes up often is range
My bad
oh yeah easily
dont need heavy armor even as long as u have a 14 dex
But my dm was kind enough to give me a heavy crossbow
Yes. You can get over 20
Plus the defense fighting style and shield of faith... That's 23 😅
Then haste (if someone has it) for 25 👀
well depends on class Ig, for paladin youd have 16 from chain mail + 2 from the shield + 1 from race
at lvl 1, lvl 2 u get the fighting style
the humble spells that force a saving throw:
Every tanky paladin's nightmare.. a dex save 😟
with or without selling starter equipment and buying full plate?
My dex is actually +1 for some reason
bc I think 20 is the max (without spells) no?
tbh get shieldmaster lol
at least basic rules/ source + no magic items
Actually I find aura of protection stops them from being “bad” at any saving throw
only relevant pally feature other than find steed tbh

Oh yeah
Very true 🙂↕️
The lowest save bonus I’ve ever had as a pally above level 6 was +3
I wonder if bird names are censored in here actually 
Roses are red, full plate is heavy, these goblins are gonna get turned to jelly
also why the pidgeot as a PB?
There's probably a certain bird name that starts with "great" that's censored 😅
Tortle gives you base 17 ac no modifier. A shield gets you to 19. Using the shell defense feature gives you a further +4 to ac, for a total of 23. Maybe some class has some niche feature that would get you higher. Not sure what it would be though
theres multiple
oh yeah sry, excluding tortle, since thats kind of a "cheat code"
Probably not level 1 without spells.
only one I can think of at 1 is forge cleric, but since u are a tortle, that wont matter
The only class feature that I can recall that can boost AC is wild magic barbarian but you gotta get lucky to roll that 😅
yeah fair, problem with tortle is that it probs arent allowed in all settings
There might be others but that's the only one that I can recall
theres a few, all the fighting style ones e.g.
Ye forge cleric doesn’t help out tanky tortle unfortunately, RAW at least
Ah, I wasn't sure if we was including that 😅
I mean doesnt matter since lvl 1 doesnt give u that
but theres a few things that let u up your AC via either race or subclass
Fighter didn’t help either since you must wear armor to benefit from defense fighting style. Paladin gets their style at level 2 so no joy
Barbarian warforged, roll your stats, get insanely lucky and get 2 18s for con and dex. Racial Asi to con getting you to 20.
Unarmored defense 10 with +4 and +5 for a total of 19.
+2 shield.
+1 warforged race feature.
Total of 22 ac with no action required
Boy do i got news for you
more so bc bird man and theres a bunch of better/funnier birds
not bc its a creature from a franchise which shall not be named
Pidgeot is peak, but mods shall smite me if we keep talking pokemon probably
(depending on how u look at it)
I was mentioned
look up "funny bird names" on google and youll get what I mean
yeah, why pidgeot
It’s my favorite Pokemon
gotcha, fair enough
So aarakocra paladin im guessing
nahhh, barbarian, brave bird with half damage go brrrr xD
Nah they got paladin tag, youre legally obligated to play a paladin with that
whut?
oh him, here I see whoops
sry, brain scrambled
Nw
Yeah once paladin hits level 6 they kinda just have mid to great saves
No particularly bad ones.
Dex and Int being the "weakest" but still plausible.
Unless you're going Dexadin then it's strength and int
Laughs in dexadin
Hehe
Noble Genie Dexadin is probably a nightmare, exaggerating anyway
Gunslinger
Gunslinger...
I was thinking of something earlier...
Is there something like a bowslinger
I swear I've heard that somewhere before
I believe that has been invented, it’s called ranger
There's another slinger
Arcane Archer but it's horrendous
Not that
There's another slinger
And no it's not Bladesinger
There's Wandslingers in Eberron.
Ah ye this probably
What is a wandslinger
Ye they use Gun shaped Wands.
Gunslinger isn't an official class.
Ranger is
That's beyond the point I'm asking gameplay not classes
Valdas is its an entire fleshed out class with its own systems which are kinda awkward imo
Tf is a valdas
😭
Also how did gunslinging get so complex
A third party sourcebook that has a Gunslinger with its own systems in it.
Cause it's not an official class so everybody and their moms made their take on one.
Its like baby's first homebrew class
One is about a weapon (gunslinger) the other is about a skill set (ranger)
Hi soras mom
Any character that can effectively used ranged weapons can use a firearm, given they have proficiency
Like a Battlemaster Fighter with a Pistol can do a lot of Gunslinger fantasy things
Rangers aren’t about being good with weapons after all. They are about being good at the Range. (Location)
Survivalists and Hunters after all. The “Adventurer Class” as I like to call it
And Wandslingers in Eberron are basically just Gunslingers but Guns in Eberron are Wands that fire magic so they're Wandslingers.
What's the point of a druid then
It's the dedicated caster for nature oriented magic.
Well ranger looks kinda nature oriented too I can't lue
Lie
Cause Ranger uses druid magic to supplement themsselves.
And?
It's no different than a Cleric vs Paladin.
Paladin has a subclass that’s nature oriented too. Barbarian as a class too. Warlocks got a subclass.
It’s like how Bards and Wizards and Warlocks are all guys who study the arcane for their magic.
Cuz I'm seeing cleric support wizard dps
Sorc support warlock damage
Is the pattern I'm seeing
Sorcerers are specialists.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
Whatever they're gonna do they should focus on it.
Sorcerers specialize in what you build them into.
Like if a Sorc is gonna blow people up, they take Heightened, Careful spell, and most aoe damage spells
Mish
One thing all Sorcs usually take or should usually take is Subtle Spell
Is there any difference between underwater and sailing adventuring for those of u that have done it
Cause it makes your spells immune to counterspell.
Interesting
Also let's you use magic in situations where doing so would usually result in an unfavorable outcome.
Like charm spells to get into places, support spells to help allies in said situations.
Hm
Would u use wisdom for a perception check?
Cause I've had a situation where a party was trying to convince Bandits that one of them captured the rest of the party (PC disguised as a bandit) and the cleric didn't realize that guidance is a very blatant spellcast.
Also is persuasion and deception the same?
Wisdom is a perception skill.
Persuasion and Deception are Charisma skills.
No
Blatant?
Magic is loud and obvious
Is there any stealth casting?
Apart from charms
Or not really
Cuz ik incantations have to be verbal
They thought they could just touch the guy and give a bonus to checks but it's more like https://youtube.com/shorts/YVf7wTg_e38?si=quBfDDfCb3D-P5mp
Only with subtle spell reliably.
Could you technically whisper a spell?
No
Nope
PHB specifies you cannot whisper a spell
Ok then so you would need subtle spell
Yep components are very obvious
What's somatic is that a hand gesture?
Wait what the name of that one spell that makes a mouth that can cast for you?
A very noticeable one yeah
Like Fireball S is a Jojo pose with your finger pointing.
Magic Mouth doesn't cast a spell for you. It is a spell programmed to say a message when some one approaches or similar actions
Caster needs to say spells.
Sign Language however
You specifically need to speak for casting a spell.
Thats why the silence spell prevents it.
You need sound
Notably Subtle Spell let's you cast while silenced too
Since you don't need to speak.
WAIT WHY ARE U ALLOWED WD LINKS
Yep as subtle spell removes the vocal component requirement
Links are fine if they pertain to the conversation and follow the rules.
Ok but the dragon always swallows mine
The words themselves aren’t the source of the spell’s power; rather, the particular combination of sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads of magic in motion. Thus, a creature who is gagged or in an area of magical silence can’t cast a spell with a Verbal component.
Links without text accompanying them get auto-modded I believe
So yeah sign language isn't a bypass for vocal components.
Cause random links are usually not something someone should click on (Bots ect.)
It's a pretty popular house rule at most tables I've been at is all.
Could someone potentially have chantless spell casting?
House Rules are very much homebrew
It's a very powerful houserule at that
Psionic subs and the possible upcoming Psion class.
https://youtube.com/shorts/AcfW8coDdtY?si=M3tolu1UZmXvXKfL
So uh how often do we have a guy Fawkes plot occur?
Magic items, Subtle spell, also that one subclass for Sorcerer
Yeah, ik, just throwing it out lol. ik* it ain't RAW.
Question for you guys: i'm making a Campain for a OneShot: 1. should I let people create their own characters
2. Should I have then rdy at start?
3. Should I give them Guideline of what they can create? what do you guys think ?
Generally speech is needed for spells cause they'd be too powerful if you could just do them.
Ah got it. I havnt done to much with spell casters yet. I got a wizard and gonna use my bard soon probably
Petition to stop abuse of spellcasters /J (let us whisper some spells)
No
Big no
93% of the PHB 2024 needs Verbal components ye
if u dont give them guidelines as to what is allowed, how would they create their characters?
Cause then you'll be mad when the DM has a caster whisper PWK and you die cause you can't hear it to counterspell it.
Owie
Pwk?
Power Word Kill
power word kill
Ic
Or worse Disintegrate.
What's a typical owlbear behaviour
Cause then your party will need a 7th level or higher spell to resurrect you
I would give them options: They have to be Human, or drawf they can't play Monk etc etc.
eat sleep repeat
Shigarakis decay from MHA lmao no corpse to revive
okay, why limit them in that way?
What if u wander across its territory
but yeah sure you CAN do that if you want
well then it eats.... you
Either all in their own characters or premade, the in-between feels like bad intentions from the DM in my experience.
I will scream in protest at the top of my lungs 'DO I LOOK LIKE FOOD TO U'
One of the players in my campaign is becoming the BBEG (Don’t worry, we all agreed on it) and I want to kill him before he kills a priestess NPC
He’s a Paladin of… Conquest, I think, who worships Cthulhu and has an AC of 20 at Level 4
How do me and my team take him out?
okay, why should it care?
It doesn't care. It thinks like an animal.
Maybe the sound will drive it away
Or it could be stunned
It's like two to three times your size.
Or something lmao
spells that force saving throws, poison if he has a poor constitution modifier
If you could stun that easily dnd would be an absolute mess.
I don't wanna be eaten
Cause it removes some elements and some Races have resists and that would make the Campain way more work for me.
Then don't go into an owlbears territory
such as?
What if I just curl into a ball and act harmless
It still probably eats you
What are the general rules of players using sneak attack?
cool, free fod
I do have Tasha’s Caustic Brew, so that should work
Just glad you're letting it do it
Also aren't they meant to be neutrally aligned @rough basalt
whatever is specified, some subclasses get it more often if the conditions are met
They're unaligned iirc
See, then do premade characters, that's for newer DMs. If you're ready to let them customize, let them just customize.
Well yes
How? bad intentions ?
unaligned does not mean "wont act in the nature of an animal and eat prey"
They’re too stupid to have an alignment and care about morals
just means theres no malicious intent behind it
Frost / cold resist
Unaligned means they act purely on their nature.
I mean all that does is half damage from taht damage source
And an Owlbears nature is to eat, sleep repeat.
So a chaotic neutral
Nah chaotic neutral assumes choice
Or pure neutral?
they players feel safe if they know they only get 50% damnage
That's still choice
Not saying it's guaranteed, just on my end that means a DM is on the railroad-y side, but out of choice and not bc they're new
Ime it doesn't
Only if it's hungry tho?
Well technically Neutral is. 2025 MM replaced Unaligned with Neutral I believed.
I had a party with mostly Necrotic Resistance so when they got hit by a 7th level Necrotic spell, that scared them.
Nope.
Unaligned still exists
yes, some would take the chance, others would buy the cloth (for Warm)
Clothing doesn't stop Frost damage lol
. . . You do realize you're the DM. Ignore the resistance or smth, like how Steam Breath with Turtle Dragon ignores Fire resistance do to being underwater
in a blizzard it does 😄
All clothing, specifically "Winter Clothes" does is negate the Extreme Cold environmental hazard
Yeah only the enviromental ones not the damage ones
A blizzard doesn't do cold damage.
It's an Extreme Cold Hazard that inflicts exhaustion on failed con saves.
Its a resistance basically removes disadvantage
I take that.. Good anwser
I guess you never been to greenland 😄
Greenland isn't dnd.
Just make it make sense. Don't punish players for having features by spamming it all the time. Just enough to keep them on their toes once or twice
Notably cold resistance does make you immune to Extreme Cold weather too
Per the DMG
the point of feeling something REALLY cold
Just having resistance be ignored sounds a lot worse to me than just not allowing them to have that resistance
Yeah players get abilities because they want to use them not be ignored
I hate the winter
Eh, only if it becomes a regular thing imo.
Every now and then a creature that avoids that rsisitanxe sure
And only if the MAJORITY have it I think it should be used anyway.
"Hey guys, cold resistance would kind of trivialize a lot of things in this game so please don't play a race with cold resistance"
All you gotta do
Btw is it just me or is there always some kind of power struggle or politics in The Northern Region/Tundra/Mountain regions
And guess what? Extreme cold irl? It can kill via exhausting your body of its energy to fight off the cold.
Way better than letting them take it and ignoring it
it was the thought in it Greenland gets cold REALLY cold... so it was an example of a cold place 😄
I don’t dm often but I usually try to have every enemy my players face have at least 3 different damage types
Or just use monsters that don't use that damage type
D&D is not real life
I swear 9 times out of 10 it's like this #dnd-discussion message
Yes, and Cold exhausts your body of its energy to stay alive and prevent hypothermia.
Even the Dragon turtle one doesn't by pass fire resistance normal. It only bypasses Water giving resistance
Which is what DnDs extreme cold hazard is based off of
it was to get the mind set
So uh do I transform into a baby or adult woolly mammoth
🦣
I mean, unless you for some reason make a cold region that is RIDICULOUSLY abundant usually resources run thin fast
Tru altho there is plenty of ore
Resource deprivation is a common issue in inhospitable places.
Trade introduces conflict points
If anything lots of ore is a great reason to have power struggles over an area
Yeah, if there's an outside entity that's willing to trade food and other resources for that ore. You're gonna want that ore.
Out of my 10 different characters I’ve used 5 were Goliaths and the cold resistance usually comes up for like 3 sessions then doesn’t get used for a while
Could just kit out the population with fur coats lmfao
Ye PC damage resistances are pretty negligible. Even in games where the damage is used alot.
I'm playing a Sea Elf in a Rime of the Frostmaiden game and the cold resistance comes up a fair bit but not nearly enough that it's trivializing anything
Also fishing exists @potent vector
that is one of the reasons I wanted to prevent players from picking that race
Feels great when you resist damage but its usually pretty rare occasion
Cause just cause Jim resists Necrotic doesn't mean Bim, Gim and Lim do too
I mean it still has stones endurance
I would just let them take it, and add more diversity of damage types
So uh baby or adult mammoth 🦣
I am yet to use my shadar kai necrotic resistance in like a dozen sessions
I Like that idea 😄
Also players can get resistances to all damage types as a game goes on with enough money.
I don't know why you're asking me this
For fun
but playing in a Winter/front location for this oneShot :/
Like I was in a t4 game where we all had a lot of resistances and it was still nightmarish cause the enemies did force damage and a lot of the damage we resisted.
Sora
I'm not engaging with this, please do not ping me over this.
okay still, swords/ claws/ bites dont deal cold damage
Rewind back to the owlbear scenario, let's say I turn into one (baby) would it be able to tell me apart by scent or no
So? The Remorhaz is a Tundra monster and it does a lot of fire damage.
Right sry
neither does getting pierced by an icicle or sth similar
@rough basalt #dnd-discussion message
Cause it exudes heat hot enough to burn people within 5ft of it. It's bite burns too.
I mean if someone turned into a baby human in front of you, would you be able to discern it from a different one that you know?
Yes
This is an animal
ok and?
Babies can recognize suff.
Well yes if right in front of me
Animals can recognize their own
But what if it doesn't know it's me
owlbears are not "stupid" just bc they are animals
Animals are not brainless automatons they form relationships
yk, in nature animals often kill the young that are not theirs
sure there are species that also care for them, but it is a known phenomenon
In the same way a baby can recognize its mom even tho it won't remember why, same thing happens with all animals that have a familial structure.
Depends on herbivore or carnivore and male or female tho
@rough basalt do you DM?
Yes.
Some animals will eat the young of others. Others will adopt anything.
It depends on so many more things than just those
sure, but since this is a fictional animal (and this is not specified anywhere) you couldnt tell and its up to the dms discretion
I think they're omnivores.
Owlbears, ask your DM. Maybe it's a Nature check?
Probably
Animal handling?
Does the new MM finally make Owlbears into beasts instead of monstrosities?
@rough basalt I'm doing a VTT campain, do you think the visuel have more impact then dice for picking Something / choose something ?
No.
Can you tame an owlbear
wym "visual"
the map? the drawn characters in the phb?
I can see it.
if your dm allows for it
Ask your DM
I could have a sign Say <- Town Lake ->
Can I ask u a bit of a dumb qn(might be a bit offensive)
okay, what do u plan to use and how would u portray it?
Then no
if thats all, you could just describe it with words
I think their criteria for a beast is whether it came naturally with the world or is an unnatural being that originated from artificial changes
Since the most common lore for how an owlbear was created was an Owl and a Bear being melded together with magic.
By a Wizard who was bored or insane.
I think so yeah
I thought this was meant to be the 1300s not the 21st century GODAMN it
I would say the visuals were irrelevant compared to the party's reasons for picking a path, unless the sign was fine earlier and now the one that points to town has a new bloodstain on it or something.
I would display a sign on screen (VTT) and the players have to Pick by clicking.
either that, or they are fey
what platform are u using?
Most DnD settings are roughly Renaissance eraesque.
something like that
15 hundo?
The common person might be pretty dumb but there's plenty of smart people.
Roughly yeah
foundry so I Can do anything
alright, I mean u do u, I personally dont think it is necessary to that extent and would slow down gameplay a bunch
What happens when half pick one way and half the other?
yes kinda splitting up the group for a short while
"Ooh sowee, I picked lake by acci-dent!"
I'd avoid trying to code your own modules or using "do your own work" kinda modules when starting out.
yes
Now, thats a nice thought but unfortunately not the case
Yeah, I think it's going to be more fuss than it's worth.
Way to late.. 😄
no cause the lone wolf gets something and find Shelter faster etc etc
I'd expect a huge mess if you're splitting the party in a one shot and coding yourself in foundry as a beginner unless you are someone who does coding for a living then just a mess probably.
Hey I got a question regarding rules
And regroups with the party when? Communicates with them how?
No I don't cause its fast pace when moving in the wildeness
As a large creature Goliath can I throw a medium creature 30ft
A lot of things in 5e that should be beasts are monstrosities for 2 simple(ish) reasons
1 reason is Moon druids
The other is "by all rights these should be beasts but are slightly magical/supernatural so we are going to inconsistently apply the monstrosity label to some but not all of these"
Have you guys ever had to deal with people who deliberately try to get Paladins to break their oaths?
item they have 😄
If they wanted to be Beasts maybe they shouldn't have been made or altered with magic.
Party members, not DMs.
Beasts are non humanoid creatures natural to this plane in 5e. Interestingly there are a couple other categories that potentially do come from this plane and are natural entities, such as oozes and plants.
Anything else is either a humanoid, from another plane, or a sentient racial category such as dragon giant etc.
It's your table. I still think making a sign as a clickable gadget is unnecessary.
Everyone's got their very messy one shot. It's a canon event
Upwords.. and have the hammer ready when they come down its lie baseball 😄
Thats the thing
A lot of them aren't. They are by all (or at least most) counts, entirely natural creatures. They just have some slightly supernatural ability
Noted
Maybe they should've sticked to the natural then.
It is natural. Naturally magical
ill hav the Map foged out and have 2 paths then..
the thing with giant eagles, vultures, and owls not being beasts feels like a weirdly deliberate design choice so druids dont have high CR flyers
Yep.
Can't effectively have an airship
Also they got a lore thing by being from another plane
Wait, what?!
Beastlands being silly
I specifically had a halfling monk with a Giant Eagle mount years ago and now they're monsters?!
I think part of 5.5e was trying to cut out all the easy accesses to permanent flight they could.
Reminder many of these things were "magical beasts" in previous edition - still not monstrosities
With the simplification of creature types that 5e did, most magical beasts would've still made the most sense to be "Beasts"
When I say "It's moon druid's fault" I am being 100% serious. That is basically the main reason that things are not beasts
True.
Should have just given moon druid big bird
I have returned.
Still a skill issue on their part. I'd just kill the moon druid in the dms game if I was the monster and get my beast tag back.
I hope everyone is well.
AH, is that why Beast of the Air/Land/Sea can only be up to medium size?
But yeah the reality is if Moon Druid could turn into most of the "Monstrosities" it'd be a balance nightmare
To limit access to them as mounts?
Giant eagle and vulture is a beast tho
In 5.5 Giant Eagles are Celestials from the Beastlands. And Vultures are monstrosities.
As of last year they're Celestials
Most likely
Like there's 92 Beasts in 5.5e MM
So if you add the like 40 Monstrosities that could be on that list too
Rip. 2024 rules
Giant Vultures are Monstrosities in 2024 rules
Not saying that every monstrosity should be a beast (a lot of them could also be other things)
And then in 2024 you can pick like 3
I didn't realize they said Vultures too
4
Which is roughly the amount of WS forms most Druids used in 2014 overall.
This is a lot to get used to. I haven't done D&D in a few years and was on the 5e rules when I last did a campaign.
They either used it for subclass abilities, bird for scouting or Bear
Probably but versatility is nice
Its just that, even in 2014, 5e was using Monstrosity as a bit of a dumping ground creature type.
Things that didn't fit (or in the case of magical beasts, couldn't be) another creature type got lumped into it
2024 moved away from that a bit, by making some things into other types (iirc we got some shifted appropriately into things like aberrations), but then it also didn't, by doing stuff like the Giant Vulture
You get more forms
I like the idea of the CIrcle Of Titan Unearthed Arcana for Druids being Monstroisity based, even if its just with its own statblocks
I think it needs a few tweaks though
You get up to 8 forms total at level 8
Which is more than you'll actually use
You can also change 1 on an LR
I've got some DIA tonight lol
More of my bugbear ranger
incidentally, the creature type thing is another reason I am sad that moon druids didn't get the template they tried in the UA
Playing a Ranger finally I see
I've been playing him for a few sessions
Ultimately Druid was one of those "if my player knows how to use me its game over" kinda classes.
As you can imagine
Bugbear Gloomstalker
It relied a lot on it being a lot of words to deter the average 5e player
His name Is Bogey
"BO-gee"
But in the right hands, Druids could kinda just rule the game.
Scout with Bird, use Spike Growth, repeat.
Scout with Bird. Drop 8 velociraptors on people.
Thoughts on Ranger so far Tokii?
I feel like the only reason I'm enjoying ranger is because of Bugbear Surprise Attack lol (We're only level 4 atm though)
You’d think they would have done something about wizards if that was the case
I'm playing a Ranger but haven't had the chance to do much with my class features it's been fairly roleplay heavy
I used Goodberry to heal an injured NPC
It's cause most people don't know how to really use wizards to an unhealthy degree. Same with druids.
The 5.5 changes removed a lot of the unhealthiness tho
He does pretty massive damage though
I'm almost frightened to see how devestating his first turns will be when he gets a second attack
Like no more 2 fighter dipping to just instawipe an encounter
D&D 5.5e Illusionist Wizard/Ranger is actually pretty good at control, but man, does it rely on the DM knowing a lot about how the rules work, and some DM listening to the players' reasoning. Reason: Minor Illusion. Use it to create a temporary cover to create a crate using Minor Illusion (If your character's species is small enough to fit under the Minor Illusion) or to create a Minor Illusion to distract the bad guys for a turn.
God I wish someone would be an illusionist
Hello there
I love Illusionists myself in D&D 5.5e, but man every time I show people that video, bam, I get hit with, "They know your casting an illusion." 😛
But last one I had didn't know how to play Wizard and dumped Dex and Con
So they were always down then died instantly
Minor illusion cannot create cover
My play style is mostly just hit things with sharp objects hence why my main classes are fighter, paladin
Look up Treant's Monk video on the subject and see what ya think from there.
Feel like dex is a fair dump for a wizard, not con though.
Closest things I've played to an Illusionist-esque character are
An Aasimar Aberrant Mind Sorcerer who I limited to only taking
Divinations, Illusions and Enchantments (and spells that Do Radiant, Force or Psychic damage)
And
A Trickery Cleric lol
Tokiis Fighter when he fights the Illusion Lich in my world and it's like Spiderman fighting Mysterio.
Sounds like Tokii dying to another Lich
I'd rather not, nor do I particularly care to, especially with how he is often incorrect.
Minor Illusion cannot create cover. It can create an illusion of cover, but it does not provide a cover bonus.
You (may) be thinking of obscurement, which is different than cover
Yes. 😛 That.
Very different things
Hey, only two of my characters ever have died permanantly
both to liches-
Something I always hate is people casting minor illusion right in front of enemies or in combat and being like "They are required to make a check to tell if it's real and have to treat it like it is until they do" and I just don't believe that's how it works
In D&D 5.5e, obscurement affects visibility and can provide advantages or disadvantages in combat. For example, heavily obscured areas can make it difficult for creatures to see, impacting their ability to target opponents effectively.
Thanks for the clarfication. 😄
It’s gonna be so amusing if Sovis dies to another Lich (or same Lich)
Well, one basically killed himself AND a Lich
The illusion lich doing the Hakari dance after killing Orizontas but the party thinks it's an illusion so they attack the actual illusions
thats. not a rules quote. Did you AI that?
Usually, when I have the Obscurment, my DM's usually say, "You are not obscured. The DM knows you are casting an illusion, and your illusion is dispelled." I have had a few DM's say otherwise, but it's usually not the case.
There's the meta to it, the reality to it, and the how-you-handle-it as a DM to it, if I'm allowed to butt in a little
Obscured 5.5e Rules
You have Disadvantage on Wisdom (Perception) checks to see something in a Lightly Obscured space. See also “Dim Light” and “Playing the Game” (“Exploration”).
I think its weird to instantly assume someone is creating an illusion when conjurations exist and you could very well pass them off as those
Me when I realize I have to code my liches into foundry to not be nightmares technologically to run.
Theres a lot of reasons that creating a minor illusion of a box or whatever is liable to fail.
Perhaps not instantly, but quickly.
Ya. For a turn it would last.
Its just not something you can claim works "If DMs run things RAW" because a lot of those things are RAW
Not necessarily or inherently
I salute you, my soldier
Don't worry. I'll have my Wednesday party fight the Dance Dance Revolution Mummy Lord to make sure the suffering is spread.
It's like how we were in a cave/tunnel with Gnolls in it and we're running away and the Warlock cast Minor Illusion to create the illusion of a wall blocking off the tunnel. He insisted that every Gnoll would have to make its own check to see that it's an illusion, I (another player in this) felt that they would all be able to know it was after seeing the first Gnoll walk through it.
Oh, this is random
But I may or may not have made a Himbo Firbolg Bard by accident
the Profile Picture I'm using for him...
Physical interaction with minor illusion reveals it to be illusory to anyone who witnesses that revelation
Sage Advice.
Tbf casting a spell in front of someone as the illusion appears. It's either an illusion or a conjuration.
Definitely worth giving it a poke to find out
Especially if you only have basic magical knowledge
The enemies aren't blind to you waving your hands and stuff appearing.
Ya. Treant Monk on YouTube talks about Minior Illusion talks about it a lot. He suggests casting it behind a door a lot. And it is a silent spell.
(Orizontas has like... almost NO magical knowledge despite having an entire party that is capable of using magic lol)
Was there any indication that the gnolls stopped moving before the illusion was cast? There's not a lot of info on an entity 'accidentally' seeing through an illusion by doing something to dispell it non-intentfully as far as I'm aware (or rather, did your DM describe a gnoll running through it?)
If it's like an illusion of a fighter I'd probably have a lot of enemies attack it thinking its a conjured soldier first.
He's just a guy with a Flail, Mace, Lance, Shortsword and Javilin
Ya. That's actually what Treant Monk suggests as well.
My ruling on an illusion if it’s big enough a creature can hide behind is that it conceals but does not protect a target. This would mean attacks against it get disadvantage.
This is different from something like mold earth, that could create cover of some kind.
Well the guy placed the illusion then we had a big debate about it
Because he insisted each Gnoll would need to make its own check to know it's an illusion
Treantmonk's Temple*
But the check is only to discern if it's an illusion without physically interacting with it
Yeah you can just smack it
Gnolls barreling down a tunnel at fleeing adventurers may not even register that a wall has appeared
And even so they're likely to just ram into it I feel
Like Honor Among Thieves movie perfectly showcases what an illusion in dnd looks like.
Beat me to it, it's pretty easy to assume as much unless the DM definitively describes each gnoll halting immediately
Looks completely normal until you touch it and it breaks apart like.
Indeed. XD
I feel you man, the blend of RP and meta can be annoying sometimes
But if it's cast right in front of someone, the deductive reasoning kicks in.
Cause part of tabletop rpgs is that the dm is not coded to be an idiot or omniscient of stuff going on.
If someone robs an empty house, there's not gonna be a guard teleporting inside going "stop you've violated the law"
Or the enemies aren't gonna go "never should've come here" and run into the spike growth killing themselves
I would probably let it happen, rule of cool once or so. If a player was regularly using it as a tactic there would be some caveats and general logic being used.
I mean they could, but it's not compelled and it makes the game worse if done as anything but a one time gag against bethesda.
Theres a number of things in the game (stealth, illusions, among others) where there is a shocking amount of people who expect like. Videogame logic. From NPCs. When they do things with those abilities and stuff
It always bothers me when that happens
Like "must've been the wind" type stuff from skyrim where you can crouch behind someone after they see you
Or people wanting stuff like Shape Water ice cube crushing to work
different type of person
The DM isn't an AI forced to run things that are technically RAW
Like I had a cleric ruin a deception attempt by the party cause he thought he could cast guidance in front of the bandits without repercussions
Similar certainly, but different
Well I'm comparing it in the sense it's people expecting the DM to let it happen because of wording
There’s a lot of things that logically make sense but raw doesn’t allow simply because it doesn’t say it does.
Like they were trying to deceive the bandits into thinking they were captured by the bandits (one pc disguised).
They were skeptical of how one newbie took down all the adventurers so I called for deception.
Cleric then starts fortnite dancing as a gold light flies to the Disguised PC.
That's a joke way to put it. What actually happened is just as blatant in context.
The prisoner touches his captor on the shoulders and casts a spell in front of them that doesn't do anything they can see.
I agree with you comment, but even though you don't get directly cover from casting Minor Illusion and an attack can go through it.
I would still rule that as long as a creature doesn't know it is an illusion then the object created should be treated as the real thing for those creatures and therefore if used in the right way, it could provide cover, let me try to explain my thinking.So if you create lets say a 5ft high and wide boulder (withing what Minor Illusion can create), then everyone who has not used their action to find out if it is an illusion or not, would beleive that there really is a big boulder where you cast the spell (even if they saw you cast it and the boulder was not there before).
My character is lets say 6ft tall and now walks up and stands behind this boulder. Everyone who has not seen through the illusion now thinks that I stand behind a big boulder and would therefore have to aim at the parts of my character they can see to hit me. (Or use a small-sized character to hide behind a crate).
I would in such case rule that the character has at least half-cover, or maybe even three-quarters cover from ranged attacks made by anyone who has still not seen though the illusion.
An ranged attack that would have hit you if not for the cover of the illusion, then passes through the illusion, and the creature who made the attack now knows it is an illusion and you don't get cover bonus against that creature's next attack.
Melee fighters would also think it is there and might have to use extra movement to reach you, or force them to move another route so you won't be attacked by them.Thats how I would rule it at my table.
I've seen a short that shows this exact situation
From the DnDBeyond forum, which most people agreed too.
Ye I frequently use that shot to describe how spellcasting looks to npcs
I'm genuinely curious
Do ya all have a party which has like a parent in it (figuratively)
This is more in regards to the characters
Characters personality
Testing
As in do the characters have a character that has a parent? I've seen the mother-daughter dynamic between characters before. I've seen real-life players play with their kids, therefore they play as mother and daughter in-game or father and son in-game. Or say the character takes on one of the characters as the son or daughter (As in your friends are your family you choose). I have seen that dynamic play out too.
Am I wrong to say that the NPCism of an NPC is also decided by the DM? Like, their aptitude and general intelligence in any given situation is decided by how the DM decides to play them out, roleplaying accordingly
Yes but quite literally spellcasting is balanced by the fact that it's obvious if you don't have some way to make it not obvious.
Like, in pinks example, would the gnolls not try to touch the random walls that appeared on front of them when they swore they're wasn't one there before?
Yeah sure cause 1, it's not real or 2 it's real and they need to get past it somehow
Ah, makes sense, shoulda thought of that
What about they act as a parent
Personality wise
If you could just charm people in conversations without any repercussions it'd be a mess.
And of course the players would get upset when "oh the lich used sign language to cast disintegrate roll a new PC"
I don't understand the question. What do you mean by acting as the parent personality wise?
"hey, (sexily), give me all your money, tehe, (winks seductively)"
Today another campaign ended. I am happy.
More like balance illusion magic, doesnt matter if you can see me casting a fireball it will do exactly the same
Every single bard without exception:
And charms
You can counterspell it
Without visible components Counterspell doesn't work
That's part of why spellcasting is blatant
Got details?
The campaign? At least a novel's worth.
Could a player be blocked off from counter spelling an illusion if their character doesn't realise it's an illusion? I guess you'd roll a deception check, but I find the scenario intriguing
Like the one that's reproachful or breaks up fights
I think the final confrontation would be satisfactory
No cause they know you're casting a spell if it has components
Bro I killed a dragon
Ah, shoulda thought about that
To not be counterspelled you gotta stay outta range or outta sight completely
Also if it's a mage that can cast Counterspell they're more likely to know whether it's an illusion or not.
Druids meanwhile :
'aww hi cutee thing, ur so floofy and adorable can I pet proceeds to lift small creature onto their shoulder and keep them close like a pet'
Can you define what you mean by reproachful? I've never heard that word before.
"I did it... I killed a dragon... I KILLED A DRAGON! I really killed a dragon! Now I can call myself a true knight!
...Are you proud of me?"
-My paladin character, after the final fight of the campaign, talking to his dead fiancée
Expressing disapproval, disappointment or criticism
Did you command word it into a volcano? Stab a cursed great sword through its chest? Charm it into rethinking its entire life until it eventually develops a major midlife crisis until it decides to cough fail its own death saving throw on purpose cough
Come on dude, spill
Me:can we cellotape his mouth shut my head hurts
Also me:*proceeds to yap endlessly *
Now that's what you call an ending
Me:ok enough I'm aging too fast
The unfortunate reality is Illusion magic relies so much on the players intelligence and the DM not being an a-hole
But for fairness the DM also has to be willing to be the "ahole"
No I just spammed smites and tanked hits, which HOW did I even survive that. The dragon was hasted. The wizard riding the dragon hasted it. How did my dumb paladin not notice.
I love the trope of trying to find acceptance of oneself or redemption under the guise of a dead partner or lover or close relationship
Illusion magic just clearly wasn’t intended to be a reliable combat tool, it is definitely a tool of occasional creativity and occasional rule of cool thing.
Paladins are good for two things, hitting things, and being hit
Was it Arviaturas (or however it’s spelled)?
It's very much a school of magic for certain situations
amusing. For anyone who fancies playing a game of D&D in space, here's some logistical tips from an actual astronaut https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/d20-space
how to roll a d20 in space
I can't lie I might transform into an owl and peck the living shit out of everyone if they don't shush
Like games with a lot of Stealth and Urban adventures Illusion can really shine.
Huh
Like an example.
Players need into a cities armory.
Player comes up acting like a drunk who got lost distracting the guards.
While they're not looking and from a distance enough away, cast an Illusion of a very scary creature. In this situation I'd rule the guards probably run for backup.
Cause they're wagies they don't wanna die to a dragon
So how many barrels of gunpowder we need again
Long story short he used to be a noble knight, engaged to a noble lady. A vampire attacked the county. The vampire killed his fiancee. He tried to kill the vampire, he bit him and turned him into a dhampir. So he hated his current existence, being a literal monster avoided by everyone which he never intended to become. But still he remains good and loyal to his oath and resorts to hiding in the woods and helping the innocent from the shadows. He remains eternally loyal to his lover and swore to never love another. Really, he was just searching for a purpose in life.
A bad DM would play the gaurds into attacking the enemy, thus dispelling it and doing two things, ruining the plan unnecessarily, and just being illogical
Does Power Word Kill require a line of sight on a target? If so, I got an awesome defense using Minor Illusion.
Also don't Guy Fawkes plans like NEVER work#dnd-discussion message
@rough basalt
The guy riding the dragon? No.
Iirc they just have to hear it
Nah that’s the name of the dragon
Noooooooo! Haha! 😛
Nah wait it's sight only
No the dragon didn't have a name
They don't need to hear it.
I like this, it's a cliche in my eyes that's done really well, looked up to hero turned into a hated evil but still retaining the good in their heart, wish I could've been there
Yay! 😄
Only cuz you didn’t ask what its name was! /j
Is it true that Goblins build most of the dungeons or smth?
No
Depends on the setting
DMs are open for a good TLDR
I like how despite "dungeons" being in the name, most of the popular campaigns aren't set in dungeons
So question. Is forgotten realms separate from other books in dnd?
I kind of already lore dropped right here
Here
Hopping in between chats and eating. Can't exactly be everywhere at once, sorry
It's cause a lot of modern players don't wanna do dungeons
Okay, I did see the TLDR
Yeah, plus they're a bit limiting
A little confused how resurrection was not available
how DARE you /silly
Like on Eberron, there was a massive ancient goblinoid empire, so it makes sense to assume a lot of the ancient ruins were built by ancient goblins or goblinoids
Dungeons are one of my favorite parts. Building them is so much fun not knowing how it will turn out
Not really. There's a philosophy called "everythings a dungeon"
Minor Illusion allows the creation of a 5-foot illusory object: can I hide behind this object (wall/crate/anything) and gain advantage vs. creatures who can't see past the illusion?
If so, given that examining the illusion requires an action, am I guaranteed to have advantage at least until their turn arrives?
Can you hide behind the illusion? Probably. Can you get advantage just for being behind it? Probably not unless you're a halfling.
Here's the problem, ultimately, you're only creating a 5' cube. That's probably not enough to hide behind without an actual stealth check.
Basically, you need to completely block line of sight from the creature you want advantage on, to yourself. You also, theoretically need to maintain said blockage of line of sight to your opponent until the moment you attack...
The way this probably works best is if you're a halfling and cast this the turn before. Then you could duck back, and shoot through the illusion with advantage.
For a normal sized character, without an action to hide, I'd probably not allow you to remove yourself from LOS behind the illusion (that's not to say that it doesn't block). Most characters are over 5' tall (a huge swath of humans are, like probably 80% or more, and likely even more adventuring humans). That means that even though you only take up a 5' cube in game space, you'd be seen over an illusory one. You'd get cover...but the thing is an illusion so if you're shot at, I'd give the creature the impression you had cover, but none would be applied to the attack (or maybe half the cover number, so -1 or -2 instead of -2/-5). Advantage on you attacks though, not so much.
However, if you're willing to spend the action (to make a dex(stealth) check) to hide, I'd acknowledge that, because you're actually spending a whole action, and that is modeled by being quiet, stepping softly, and possibly crouching behind an illusory object.
So yes, the wall is opaque, and you'd be able to hide behind it/have advantage from attacks (technically, if it was a real object, they wouldn't be able to target you..I'd allow the targeting)...but only if you completely fit behind it, and that's not the case for most PCs.
RPG Stock Exchange answer for the D&D 2014 rules.
If there's a place where the players have to move, fight, do skill challenges, it's a dungeon.
Cities act as them to in their own way. Many different things that can happen
Right but i think he’s asking about the “ancient underground ruin” dungeons
Yeah but why would you limit yourself to those only?
It would be cool to have an ability to switch your place between clones or illusions
Hmmm, haven't heard that one, but doesn't sound like it's hard to get behind
Not really.
Like I had a Kobold cave that had 3 main open areas then the boss in 4th one behind a door.
Basically a dungeon
Mhm, I was thinking the good ol' underground cave crawlers
I don’t think he means a limit, he’s just asking if those dungeons were built by goblins
He mentioned earlier that Dungeons are limiting I think
That's correct
Cities? Built like dungeons? I can see this in the Underdark too.
I just don't see em as a space that allows for a lot of creativity except for the occasional lever pull and giant door into a boss arena
Dungeons of Drakkenheim by the dungeon dudes, Drakkenheim itself is just a massive megadungeon
Has social factions, environmental dangers
Dungeons and Drakkenheim. Awesome! 😄
It's a third-party I've heard nothing but great things about
Some of their stuff is on dndb
Just have them go into a dungeon full of illusions that doesnt even actually have enemies or bosses
That's just an underground city though in my opinion, I don't know much about drakkenhuim, but theirs a line between 'dungeon' and 'whole new area with in depth locations' not to sound rude
Or the little spirit things that can travel through walls and cause nightmares
That's evil. XD
Could be fun lol
Dude! Haha!
It's not an underground city tho
It's a ruined city on the land that was destroyed by an eldritch meteor shower.
So now it's basically a wasteland with monsters, crystals that drive you mad.
And have the cave have a special effect that gives illusions a solid physical form just for kicks and giggles
I have lots of plans for different possible things as im world building
A 'Dungeon' can be lots of things, it need not be a cave, or monster infested underground ruin.
Nope nope.tbats the fun of it
Heck even a sufficiently large ship, full of hostiles and loot, classifies as a 'Dungeon'.
One race that looks like fun to run is illafeds, intellect eaters, and the master brain
Illithids, Intellect Devourers and Elder brains?
Yeah that part. Words escape my minf
its okay!
Have you ever seen an Elder Brain Dragon?
Mind. So I go with general descriptions when I dont have reminders in front of me
I have not
Is there a difference between a series of encounters an an actual dungeon?
Now my mind wonders how many red ants until the open field is a dungeon
Didnt even know an elder brain dragon was a thing. Sounds scary to
That doesn't do anything to what I said
They would definitively 100% not get any cover bonuses
I could imagine an elder brain dragon being woaaaaaah. o.0 Like woah dude! Like, totally awesome! 😛
Its basically an Elder Brain Piloting the Corpse of an Adult (?) or Ancient (?) Dragon
Like, sitting on its back with tentacles in its body type of vibe, controlling it like a puppet
That sounds like a major final boss hard to kill. Consider the elder brain itself already can boost armor over time
So the drsgon pretty much acts as an extra layer of protection and doesnt damage the brain directly
Yeah, an Elder Brain is CR 14...
The Elder Brain Dragon is CR 22 .w.
This player would get kicked from my game
I recommend reading this. I think what the poster from Stack Exchange meant was the enemy has a disadvantage on attacks against the target who's hiding behind the illusionary crate.
The Elder Brain dragon is just so cool, I had to use one for a character backstory. lol
Usually the creature rolls a wisdom or whatever the check is to see if they realize its an illusion or not sd soon as it comes to be
Elder Brain Dragons do sound cool. 😛
Sadly, the Elder Brain Dragon statblock isn't that impressive 😔
Its still a CR 22 Creature, but its not like.. flashy
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Q_Q
One id like is a blood dragon
It's always worth talking over some of your illusions with the DM before the game.
Indeed.
A dungeon requires a location with a detailed map. An open field full of monsters, doesn't particuraly count. However, a field full of ruined structures, might.
Mobile mindflayer printer though.
can i ask why some DMs do not like AI pictures for tokens/characters?
The Elder Brain dragon has a Mindflayer Tadpole breath attack though, if you fail the save against it, you become infested with Mindflayer Tadpoles and when you hit 0 Hp you begin to become a mindflayer over the course of time
Even if they think you have cover, you wouldn't have cover because even if they accidentally hit the illusion the arrow is gonna go through it and hit you
I hate to say this but it'd be really funny to see a detailed map of an open field actually, that gives me really bad ideas
It infests you no matter what. The save is just to reduce the damage
I would advise against starting that conversation here tbh
Because AI Bad and is the enemy, and using AI makes you a Bad Person, is generally the opinion I see.
That is one crazy ability
I've seen people in this server call for violence against people who use AI
If you get slimed by the Elderbrain dragon, you have been infested with tadpoles, and will become a Mindflayer now when you hit 0 HP.
oh sensitive topic? it never crossed my mind until some guy said i can't have an AI picture
What do people even have to do to get rid of a mindflayer tadpole?
Oh yeah
I misread that
i will fight all those people. I will not be constricted by my poor artistic capabilities. It does not restrict me in being able to roleplay or tell a story
In this instance, you either need something like remove curse or to crank 40hp of healing down your throat
Powerful healing spells apparently
There are many reasons but much of it is how they are trained. By scrapping the art of others without paying them for their efforts.
Its also quite bad for the environment.
It's less a senstitive topic and more that some people just to treat AI usage as like...as evil as kicking a puppy and feeding orphans into woodchippers.
I did use AI to try solo rpg and oof, it is so aggressively mid
So like, you could set it up where this dragon is just going town to town, puking on everyone in sight, and now we have a mass conversion event.
Some people get so unhinged about it, it's really wild to see
bet everybody uses a calculator though
Which is funny because I bet those same people don't get that up in arms about blue collar workers getting replaced by automation
A calculator is a rather vastly different beast to AI however, so, poor comparison
Just start an arc with the elder brain dragon using the breath in the middle of a festival where many are active
not really, i'm really bad at art so i get something to do it for me. If you're really bad at maths you get something to do it for you
generative AI programs =/= calculator
A lot of people make a visual for their characters on HeroForge and take a screenshot of that, or use video game character creators to try and create their character
you have a tool to help people access a game then ban one of them, seems silly
Let's keep things related to d&d and not spiral out into applications of machines in real life arenas
AI's, are more often then not, built up out of stolen data, at greast cost and environmental harm, for...more often then not "Trust me bro, I'm a Tech Bro, I know what the world needs, Ai is DAH FUTURE" "It's been like six years and we still can't find a use for this crap, we've blown billions on it, we're broke."
Is politics allowed? Not sure if this goes too far already
If it doesn't, I think the people not caring are the same seeing AI more positively?
It is not
See server rules
I did read them, so that"s why seeing a staff member make that comment confused me
But since we must drop the conversation now. I still wonder what the deal was with the Art of the uh... what did they call them...
The Primal Dino's that are actually Monstrosities?
A staff member didn't say anything political though?
Anyway back to D&D
This?
I'm not staff
That is not a staff member
How is the name like that
Orange = moderators, Red = WoTC staff
If they made me staff it would be hilarious
So what’s the limit to how many false hydras I can have in a session?
could that be added to the "looking for players" outline? or is it not as relevant. Just i've had 2 so far reject due to AI image
All of them 
But really the amount that makes the game fun but not Not Fun.
The IDs are a new Discord feature thingy. I'm not sure if you need Nitro. You can style your ID and stuffs.
What people do off-server is not something we moderate
I still don't get the fixation with False Hydras
I think one false hydra is enough to make the game not fun
The colour
only in Eberron?. Who the hell builds them in Faerûn then?
Gradient
Our server rules state we do not allow generative AI, so it already doesn't belong here.
On top of that, how DMs want to run their table is more up to them for restrictions. Not allowing AI art is not unreasonable.
Cause I kinda made my players face two and uhhhhh let’s just say they were not happy when 5 months of progress wiped out
There must be someone that builds the dungeons
That's a new Discord feature.
Only staff can set colours right?
Names like mine just mean the user is both a DM and player
You can't tell me that they just, yk. Spawn outa knowhere
Oh. o.0
At least not the Mega Dungeons
New features confuse me
Wait a minute. o.0 Oh I see now what your meaning. Haha!
Woah
So, you see how mine is glowing? Kind'a?
I don’t know. Im not terribly familiar with Faerun lore lol
Gradient yes
Dw mate
I wonder if mine would look like that if my name was longer
It would
Ya. I think you can set that on Discord. You may be able to set that as an admin or owner of a Discord member too within a Discord server for others, but I'm not sure. I think I have mine set to purple on my Discord profile? One sec.
Ya. Mine inside of the Discord server is kind'a greenish (teal?). On my profile it's either white or purple. I can't tell which. 🙂
There is a looooooot of Fearun lore.
Ebberon is one of my favorite settings. Haha! That and Planescape. Ooooo! Do I ever love me some Planescape lore! 😄
It's a monster that challenges the PCs to engage with the world as part of the challenge, as opposed to just using their character's own abilities.
It's definitely not for every group, though.
And I have done it, I have booked my first Adnd 1e game
That's dope! Gotta let us know how it goes
This is gonna be interesting since a lot of the old DnD challenge was the fact you didn’t know how the monsters work or what they were.
One cool thing you do get to know is this: You get to know what the monsters' AC is. The DM is supposed to tell you, it's only that in my experience with AD&D most DMs don't. If I do recall the rules. I may be wrong.
How do I calculate HP for a sixth level fighter without rolling
40 plus con and other bonus's
Oh I don't think challenging them is going to be a problem
Thanks my man
Level 1 is 10+Con Modifier
Every level up after that is 6+con mod
Thank you nealen
So if you got a +2 con that is 12+ (8 x 5) =52
There is a a pretty good article by the Arcane Eye that teaches you how to do it for the 2024 rules (D&D 5.5e). That way, you'll know what goes into it for Fighter, and for other classes. Or if you multiclass later on. It has a calculator for it too, if you're in a pinch.
Basically it’s half the max roll of the dice + 1 for the average
So d10 dudes it’s 5+1 for 6
D8 is 4+1 for 5 etc etc
Level 1 is just a max roll
The PHB 2024 also just has a table for it too for all core 12 classes
Peeps. You all take care. I got'a head out. I got'a get ready for Baulder's Gate III with a buddy of mine.
or: each side of the side of the dice divided by the total number of sides
so e.g. for D10=
(1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10)/10= 5.5 --> rounded to 6
alright, what kind of dice?
Well, i finished my Dev/player/GM kit, and I posted the pics in #merch-and-dice . I found the person, but feel free to take a look! 🍈
I am very proud 🍈
Water and ice~
Anyway, how yall doin?
I have to make a 6th level 5e character by 4pm tomorrow is it possible
I have executive dysfunction and building a character always seems so tough
oh just 1? easily possible
hop into #character-discussion I can help u brainstorm if you want
just ping me or sth
Okay I'm not doing it now but in a. Few hours I might ping you
Oh, yeah, that is very possible, especially if you're using DnDB
Were you rushing or were you dragging?
DnD beyond has a quick character maker
yeahhh Ill be sleeping then probably sooo
Fair, but making sheets isn't too bad. You doing it manually or using DDB?
Ahhh, little bit more of a lengthy process but still more than possible
Oh boy good luck
You can ping me in the character discussion chat if you'd like, I can help you out whenever you start
Thank you pandora
Who know
What types of characters do you find most difficult to deal with, or the players themselves? For me its the few who don't do anything to help progress
I've been a lot better
Gossip is fun! Though, in what way if I may ask? Is it disinterest? Or an affinity for sidequesting?
Sorry to hear that :/
People who won't do anything for sure
hey i was gonna say that
"give a reason why my character would like to be with you all and do adventures"
Bro....
why are they asking the others for a reason
that ones are special creatures.
Characters that won't do anything or interact with anything royally tick me off
Just copy my homework, but change the answers around. 🍈
Cause I dont wanna have to play the game for the players
My only experience with a bad player was when someone started at level 1 with AC 21 and the DM did allow it so encounters were weird
yep, im like
"Bro, dont make me force you to make your character interact or do something to the story."
21 flat AC im trying to figure out
There's always one level above Gm, you know.
dude i absolutely love potent dragon marks
20AC is doable easily
18 in dex with a thri kreen shield + shield of faith 21 ac
Some construct race or one of the unfeeling races
oh wait flat
Dare you venture into the hall of the Developer? CR30 🍈
idk
Warforged with defense style, chain mail and shield is 20
of what? players that dont want to interact or me forcing him?
Players who argue with my rulings on things
so im wondering where the extra 1 is coming from
Of the chain. You could echew players and start writing modules.
Unless the dm let them start with splint mail which is insane
maybe there using defnese again
Hmm, Warforged for sure ye, but maybe better armour if he started with more gold?
Some dms allowed that even through
No players at that level.
splint is like 400 gold
You're dealing with DMs.
Didn't the Noble background give 500 extra gold?
No
Oh wait 2014 didn't have set amounts of gold did it
(Also players too I am lying it is a trap 🍈 )
No background gives 500 gold lol
Na, i dont have enough experience to write modules yet
Have you run a full campagin once?
If it hasn't been years, I'd love to know lol
Nope, not yet
Waiting to some work things stabilize so i dont have my blood pressure high enough to get a cut and paint the walls instantly.
But im planning to start with a CoS and later get some time to build one campaign in mind
But yeah if someones getting 21 flat AC at level 1 somethings going on
I want more people to write too.
three eldritch blasts in its head.
pretty sure thats possible but yeah not normal
... I think my point still stands with AC 20 tbh
Nah 20 AC is fine
They invested into it
The BBEG was Arby's all along