dnd-discussion

[pseudo plinth]

let my newbies go for 4d6 drop 1 (made them roll it 3 times so they dont get stuck with real bad stats)

everyone's happy and everyone's strong :D!

[dreamy timber]

The internets filled with freaks and joksters

[pseudo plinth]

one rolled 17,17,17,15, 14, 12 😄

[woven flint]

It's not even funny.
It weird and kinda gross
Dragons aren't like.. Livestock, they're incredibly intelligent beings lol

[pseudo plinth]

"i seduce the dragon" is funny like ONCE or twice.

[dreamy timber]

What kind of dragon, there's like 15 branches of dragon species

[undone rain]

It was funny the first 100 times

Haha he rolled to seduce the dragon

[woven flint]

... All of them?
Majority of Dragons are more intelligent than most people

[undone rain]

Totally original

[dreamy timber]

Joke as old as dnd itself

[undone rain]

Ughhh the classes need new memes

[pseudo plinth]

im pretty sure EVERY dragon is intelligent

[dreamy timber]

Wyverns probably dumb as rocks

[hazy yarrow]

Peak spiderman unlimited pfp

[woven flint]

Frankly, I think Dragons would be offended overall in character because all Dragons, regardless of type, view themselves as the greatest beings ever lol

[pseudo plinth]

wyrmlings have like 12 int

[undone rain]

Now this is someone who knows their stuff. Lets gooooo

[dreamy timber]

The only consistency is their pride

[woven flint]

And intelligence.

[dreamy timber]

Not all the time not every dragon can talk

[woven flint]

Pride and Intelligence is like..
The whole thing about Dragons and why they're different from your ordinary run-of-the-mill monster

[hazy yarrow]

Is he your fave?

[woven flint]

All
Metallics, Chromatic, Gems and even special types of Dragons can indeed talk.

[undone rain]

3rd fav. Love his design

That cape of his is fire

[woven flint]

Wyverns and Dragons are notably separate types of beings.

[dreamy timber]

Wyverns and drakes cannot talk

[woven flint]

Wyverns and Drakes aren't TRUE Dragons.

[pseudo plinth]

wyverns arent dragons

[dreamy timber]

Dragon is a gene term theirs so many branches

[umbral girder]

Drakes are notably an arcane creation made from a Dragon

Not actual dragons.

[hazy yarrow]

I remember loving his design and playing the heck out of shattered dimensions wishing it showed up there

[pseudo plinth]

i mean, creature type dragon yeah

but they're wyverns

[woven flint]

Kobolds, Wyverns and Drakes all have the Dragon type because they're beings related to Draconic Blood

NOT Dragons themselves.

[undone rain]

Love that game ngl

[uncut zenith]

The Dragon creature type includes the “true” dragons and a lot of dragon-adjacent creatures.

[flint ledge]

Technically Kobolds are dragons in 2024 for creature type matter

[woven flint]

Yes and any fantasy nerd would yell at you and tell you that Drakes, Wyverns and Dragons are all different things. (Overexaggeration)

[hazy yarrow]

I like nerds but they’re mean to me

[jolly canyon]

Yea I always say they are different but but that's me

[flint ledge]

Wyrms are usually also different in fantasy speak but in dnd they're just older dragons

[woven flint]

I've seen people get so absolutely HEATED about the topic 😭

[undone rain]

If its a flying lizard its a fockin dragon

[jolly canyon]

Taking it way to seriously lol

I know the type

[hazy yarrow]

Dinosaur with wings equals dragon

[flint ledge]

Well a pterodactyl is a flying lizard

[hazy yarrow]

That’s better

[dreamy timber]

Not all dragons fly some walk, some swim

[woven flint]

I so agree though
Dragons, Wyverns and Drakes all have similarities but also have incredibly different anatomical structures.

[hazy yarrow]

What’s a swimming dragon called?

[umbral girder]

Some dragons don’t even swim through water. Some swim through the land.

[dreamy timber]

Sea dragon

[umbral girder]

It’s actually called Sea Serpent

[flint ledge]

Does the dragon turtle fly? I don't imagine it does

[hazy yarrow]

Wouldn’t that be a snake?

[dreamy timber]

No that's a serpent

[flint ledge]

Is a sea serpent just a giant eel?

[dreamy timber]

Dragons aren't snakes

[jolly canyon]

Serpents got their own thing

[hazy yarrow]

That’s what I thought

[warped topaz]

is anyone planning on backing Neon Odyssey by Legends of Avantris

[umbral girder]

Sea Serpent is a dragon in Fizban’s Treasury of Dragons

[undone rain]

All this talk of the sea makes me want a sea themed campaign

[hazy yarrow]

THATD BE SO COOOL

[jolly canyon]

I sea what you did there

[umbral girder]

Even got breath attacks, history, and sapient minds

[woven flint]

Looks at Eastern Mythology compared to our Western depiction of Dragons

[flint ledge]

Makes me just wanna have some sea food honestly.

[umbral girder]

Looks at 2025 Gold Dragons and Green Dragons

[dreamy timber]

Dragons have armoured skeletons or possess some form of magic, commonly flying or elemental magic

[hazy yarrow]

Makes me want a hot dog real bad

[flint ledge]

Though a campaign idea would be having a world just be on top of one very large dragon turtle

[warped topaz]

more similar than you may think. I was told by my history teacher that to suit the already established culture of the Anglo Saxons better, serpents in Christianity were described as dragons

[umbral girder]

Sea Serpents even have hoards of loot like Dragons.

[hazy yarrow]

Imagine we’re all barnacles

[dreamy timber]

Jormungander is a giant, not a dragon

[woven flint]

Nobody specifically mentioned Jormungander though?

[warped topaz]

never mentioned jormungander, just that the anglo saxons had a belief in dragin

dragons*

[woven flint]

You assume that's the only giant serpent in Anglo Saxton mythology

[umbral girder]

looks at Sea Serpent

Also yeah big yikes

[spiral girder]

mythology has a habit of having creatures with the same descriptions but completely different things

[jolly canyon]

Oof. Wring server for those comments 😅

[uncut zenith]

You being autistic doesn’t give you a right to say stuff that can be offensive to autistic people

[woven flint]

^^^ Truth

[warped topaz]

also dragons were present in myths like Beowulf (the GOAT)

[jolly canyon]

I won't specify my ethnicity but I'm not allowed to make fun of it here. Keep those conversations to your own discord servers. Public ones like this are very pg.

[woven flint]

Just like me being LBGTQ doesn't give me the right to say anything that could be offensive to LGBTQ people

Being something doesn't automatically exempt you from making offensive comments

[uncut zenith]

Anyways, dragons are great

[flint ledge]

That is true, however if we could sail back to much more on topic and comfortable topics

[jolly canyon]

Yuh. Love dragons

[woven flint]

Dregons...

[hazy yarrow]

You have to be very specific about your wording in public servers lest you be dragged to the pits of hell

[warped topaz]

even the one that killed the GOAT?

[uncut zenith]

Hell yeah

[flint ledge]

Exactly dragons, speaking of, dracoliches are weird

[woven flint]

Alduin did nothing wrong (bait)

[warped topaz]

but it killed Beowulf

[uncut zenith]

In the long run, it was Beowulf’s own fault for giving into his temptation and making bad decisions

[warped topaz]

yeah but beowulf is cool

[woven flint]

Beowulf died to an immensely powerful creature, how is that a bad thing?
It just makes him COOLER!

[uncut zenith]

That dragon was literally a problem of Beowulf’s own making

[warped topaz]

can we get a cool new movie adaptation of beowulf

[umbral girder]

I keep forgetting that most of Eberron is powered by Dragon Magic

[warped topaz]

does anyone else randomly get the compulsion to copyright their dnd character

[umbral girder]

It’s interesting how different D&D settings handle the importance of Dragons

[flint ledge]

I've said this multiple times already I think but it seems odd that dragons which are so much more magical and powerful seem to be weaker in lichdom than regular liches

[jolly canyon]

Dragon shards wooo!!!

[uncut zenith]

I do like that ultimately it all comes down to them being inherently tied to the Material Plane

[warped topaz]

speaking of Liches, whats the best Vecna adventure?

not eve of ruin, thats for sure

[umbral girder]

Yeah like how Angels are tied to the upper planes or fiends are tied to the lower planes.

Dragons are the super beings of the Material Plane

[flint ledge]

How the flip do you copyright your dnd character

[uncut zenith]

Dragons and arguably giants. Which is part of the reason they’re both fighting each other all the time.

[woven flint]

I'm gonna find a white dragon nest
Take an egg
Hatch them
And name them Philbert

[flint ledge]

What are the Super beings of the feywild

[steady sentinel]

Dragons are interesting creatures though I wish the lesser known ones come back like purple, Amber, Deep, Orium etc

[umbral girder]

Archfey

[hot marlin]

While it's taking all my willpower to not go on another rant about my loathing of Eve of Ruin, I would argue that Die Vecna Die is the best one by default. Because Vecna adventures are just... generally not good

[flint ledge]

Well yeahhh I guesss

[warped topaz]

idk i think artwork or writing can qualify it for claim

[warped topaz]

the vecna trilogy was decent

[meager fractal]

Archfey are goated but have you heard of the arch-hags?

[naive cedar]

Is die vecna die generally considered the best vecna module?

[jolly canyon]

You check out the exploring eberron book, Nealen? They have two cool archfey Stat blocks. I hope to use them eventually even for just npcs

[warped topaz]

vecna lives! was pretty good

[flint ledge]

Waiting for the day we get the head of vecna

[woven flint]

Actually, two of my characters have dragon children

My Harengon has his daughter, which we nicknamed Slate, because she was a blank slate and a dragon never before born in the world (created by the deck of many things)

And my Tortle Cleric has a Copper Dragon daughter which I have named... Ryndellu 🧐

[uncut zenith]

I love Eberron archfey, they feel a lot more like fairy tale characters than the other archfey we’ve seen in 5E

[warped topaz]

yeah, its the most creative, and involved the entire multiverse

[meager fractal]

Ebberron has archfey?

[woven flint]

Yes! :]

[umbral girder]

Yeah Eberron has its own multiverse

[jolly canyon]

The forgotten prince is so cool. I wanna use him! I even have little hints about him already but my players haven't noticed. he's eberron archfey

[flint ledge]

Reminds me, are arch hags simultaneously archfey?

[umbral girder]

Still in the first chapter.

[jolly canyon]

Nice!

[meager fractal]

They are arch and they are fey so maybe they qualify

[uncut zenith]

Yep. Their version of the Feywild (I believe it’s called Thelanis?) is a lot more like a fairy tale world than the Feywild we’ve seen in other settings

[flint ledge]

I imagine they can be archfey but aren't automatically

[jolly canyon]

Correct! Thelanis: the fairy court

[flint ledge]

Can fey become liches actually?

[uncut zenith]

Other worlds’ Feywild tend to be a lot more like just… super nature and magical. Eberron’s Thelanis is a lot more like a world full of fairy tale stories

[jolly canyon]

Yup yup!!!

[umbral girder]

Probably. Who knows.

[uncut zenith]

I don’t think so. Mostly because liches are generally mortals who give up their souls for immortality.

[meager fractal]

maybe? I don't think a lot of them would want to as most fey powerful enough to become a lich are likely already immortal.

[woven flint]

The closest thing we'd probably have to Fey Liches are Elven Liches

[jolly canyon]

I'm actually super happy I chose eberron as my first setting. I love most the lore it has. Something not so much but the vast majority I enjoy including the multiverse part

[still plover]

True fey with that much juice don't need to make the trade.

[buoyant oar]

Baelnorn my beloved

[uncut zenith]

I don’t know why a fey would want to become a lich. First of all, they’re already immortal, and secondly they’re usually too happy with who they are already, so why would they want to become anything else?

[flint ledge]

Well fey do have souls so technically they could

[umbral girder]

I like the reasoning for Alhoon over Ilithidlich.

Alhoon have to make an entirely new system that isn’t at the same as Lichdom because their natural Magic Resistance makes the Lichdom rituals have trouble working on them.

[woven flint]

Though, notably, some fey could want immortality

Satyrs for example, have a pretty short lifespan 🤔

Imagine a Bard Lich 😨

[umbral girder]

Plus fusing their minds into 1 feels so much more unique than just doing a Lich but again. Feels way more Mind Flayer like

[steady sentinel]

Though ngl I wouldn't mind seeing a revamp of Dark Sun

[flint ledge]

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Illithids lack souls in the first place?

[buoyant oar]

Considering that Fey in and of themselves are all host of different creatures. Each one's interaction with lichdom would probably be unique to that creature

[umbral girder]

They have souls. They don’t think they do but they do

[potent vector]

Probably? Shadar Kai are pretty close to Lichdom as a whole race.

[umbral girder]

Elder Brains usually just consume them on death

[potent vector]

Pointy Hat Looms

[umbral girder]

To mind Flayers becoming one with the Elder Brain is your afterlife

[woven flint]

Screw whatever content creator lich, I'm making it myself

[umbral girder]

Similar thoughts

[buoyant oar]

I'm perfectly happy with the fact that I think I can count all of the D&D content creators that I follow on one hand

[woven flint]

Content Creators are the biggest soul sucking parasites out there right beside liches!
/Joking, dont take this seriously

[jolly canyon]

I follow plenty of CCs in this space. I wouldn't be here in the hobby otherwise actually lol

[buoyant oar]

Now I do follow an absolute crap ton of RPG designers who work on the guild. But the last thing that I need in my life and games is vibes based rules

[flint ledge]

I would on the one hand see a hag achieve lichdom to avoid death more but on the other I feel like they have other ways

[umbral girder]

Kinda eh since they canonically already have their own ways that don’t require Lichdom

The obvious one being Archhags

[uncut zenith]

My personal headcanon is that fey are generally happy with their own existence as is, so they don’t really care for becoming something that’s inherently different from their intrinsic nature

[umbral girder]

Like Archhag weaknesses are so much tougher than “break this box with a soul in it”

[rough basalt]

I prefer clear defined rules

[meager fractal]

Any Dark Sun related news lately?

[flint ledge]

The universe's worst pun

[umbral girder]

Like an Archhag could have the simple rule of “stay more than 30ft away from the Lady of Pain”

[buoyant oar]

Asking an archfey If they would become a lich. Is like asking if a devil would become a demon. The first question you're going to get is but why?

[umbral girder]

Which like everyone in the multiverse would want to follow the rule “stay away from the Lady of Pain”

[fickle heart]

Whaat, you can't possibly be saying that content creation is different than design?? Impossible.

[woven flint]

I mean...
Isn't Graz'zt theorized to have formally been a Devil?

[hot marlin]

Rich Burlew published Dim Sun, a Dark Sun parody. It's good

[umbral girder]

It is a theory yes.

[hot marlin]

Yes. He is also said in Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss to be the son of Pale Night.

So that theory might be nonsense

[feral fulcrum]

Wait to see if the third/fourth quarter thing they haven't announced yet is Dark Sun

[buoyant oar]

One thing I need more of in my life is YouTubers telling me to go back their Kickstarter campaign for their totally balanced and vetted 5e book

[flint ledge]

I mean currently we're waiting for the lovely horrors within ravenloft

[rough basalt]

theyll reveal it later this year if they arent abandoning it

[feral fulcrum]

And hope they put more effort into it then they did Spelljammer

[umbral girder]

Dungeon Dudes moment

[buoyant oar]

I mean pretty much every setting that they've done since spelljammer has had more effort than spelljammer

[woven flint]

Graz'zt the Gaslighter

[rough basalt]

I think someone said they'll be revealing the "Season of Champions" at gencon

[thorn wedge]

I have heard that they really did spelljammer dirty but haven’t played in it

[buoyant oar]

Yes, the main book for season of Champions will be revealed at gencon this August

It's done dirtly enough that I thought for a long time that it was intentional to get people to stop asking for it

[meager fractal]

Has old Graz'z't gotten a 5.5e statblock yet?

[flint ledge]

Have they said what the theme for the last quarter will be?

[umbral girder]

It’s just Spelljammer stats. Not rules for them just maps of the different Spelljammers

[hot marlin]

Pretty much every thing they did before Spelljammer has had more effort than Spelljammer. In fact, pretty much everything any human being has ever done since the neolithic has had more effort than spelljammer /s

[rough basalt]

if the UA is anything its Dark Sun

[umbral girder]

Why would he?

[rough basalt]

Whether its a setting guide or just an adventure like dragonlance we'll see

[woven flint]

I don't think any of the Demon Lords or Archdevils have 2024 statblocks yet

[rough basalt]

Given that they haven't revealed it makes me think Dark Sun

[jolly canyon]

Hmm idk why but I'm getting hints that Spelljammer might not be a good book. 🤔

[rough basalt]

They might wanna build up some good PR with Ravenloft before unleashing Dark Sun

[rough basalt]

It isnt

[flint ledge]

Personally I kinda hope we're getting another Mordekainen like book with an absolute dump of stat blocks

[meager fractal]

Spelljammer wasn't very good, but the adventure was alright

[woven flint]

Spelljammer from my understanding has fun ideas but is poorly executed

[hot marlin]

Lord Graz'zt's MOTM statblock is perfectly functional. Could use a bit of oomph, and some more nasty mind control

[rough basalt]

an understatement

poorly executed would be hall of fame worthy compared to it

[woven flint]

Spelljammer getting shot in the kidney and left to die

[umbral girder]

Well that was just fixes and reprints of stuff from other books

[buoyant oar]

The sword Coast adventure's guide is a better bang for your buck than the spelljammer boxset. I'm a big fan of the Forgotten Realms and that book was almost an insult

[rough basalt]

Basically 90% of the AAG is ship statblocks with the rules telling you to never use them

[woven flint]

That's... ludicrous

[umbral girder]

Tome of Foes, Volo’s Guide, races from a bunch of different adventures etc was Monsters of the Multiverse

[buoyant oar]

Monsters of the Multiverse was the 5e equivalent to the greatest hits album

[rough basalt]

Yeah if you want spelljammer combat aid you need to buy Ghosts of Saltmarsh or 3rd party

[buoyant oar]

I did love in the spelljammer box set whenever it said regarding ship combat to get close enough to do regular combat was the advice

[hot marlin]

Though it is worth saying that Monsters of the Multiverse does not actually republish all content from Volo's Guide and Mordenkainen's Tome

[jolly canyon]

Oh speaking of would that be a good purchase for ship combat in general? Ghost of Saltmarsh

[steady sentinel]

They also nerf some

[flint ledge]

Speaking of which who designed some of those monsters. They look like they come out of a horror movie

[buoyant oar]

Pre DIA Zariel cant hurt me

[fringe dirge]

i am trying to make feands. any tips?

[rough basalt]

Ye but its one of a couple dnd books that isn't being printed atm due to printing company changes so its only accessible through luck, second hand or digital only on ddb

[frail wasp]

there's no good ship combat rules that aren't "get close enough to do regular combat and then do that"

[jolly canyon]

I can settle for digital if need be. Thanks for the tip tho

[rough basalt]

Ye if you want proper ship combat you need DMsguild or make it yourself

[buoyant oar]

God bless, the DM's Guild

[rough basalt]

GoS is just usable

[jolly canyon]

I have an account for dmguild and even bought some eberron stuff already

So I can look

[buoyant oar]

The only thing that would make me love that site more is an AI content filter so I can just shut that off

[rough basalt]

ye same

[still plover]

What's a feand?

[rough basalt]

It's being filled with so much AI generated junk trying to say its "human made"

[buoyant oar]

The decision by The Guild to allow AI generated artwork was probably their largest misstep ever

I'm surprised Wizards of the Coast was okay with it

[flint ledge]

So many creative spaces have been flooded with AI it sucks

[jolly canyon]

Ouch. I haven't bought anything new/not made by Keith. But I'll tread lightly on that site

[buoyant oar]

If you're worried, creators are supposed to disclose if they have AI generated artwork in their stuff. AI generated text is currently not allowed on the site at all. However, that can be hard to prove so that's more of a report it when you see it kind of deal

[meager fractal]

His latest iteration kinda feels underwhelming as a campaign ender compared to the baddies in the 5.5 monster manual

[umbral girder]

Well yeah he isn’t meant to be fought alone

[rough basalt]

Ye I think the only things you can buy without much thought are from WotC, Ed Greenwood, Keith Baker, or big name third party

[umbral girder]

None of the Demon Lords or Archdevils are meant to be fought alone

[flint ledge]

It's really hard to design alone fights in general

[umbral girder]

Except maaaaybe Tiamat

[jolly canyon]

Figured Keith stuff was safe cause we'll. Yea lol

[flint ledge]

There's Abishais

[buoyant oar]

There's some other really good people on the guild, I'm personally a very big fan of everything that Anthony Joyce Rivera puts out

[flint ledge]

Which make for the biggest no Brainer minions

[rough basalt]

I think recently theyve started cracking down a bit on AI but they shouldnt have allowed it in the first place

[buoyant oar]

Then there's a couple of guys who worked on a three book series for the FR Kingdom of Amn. All their stuff is really good too

[jolly canyon]

Dang that was a choice!? I assumed it was a no immediately and people are just lying

[umbral girder]

It’s not a matter of having them available

[jolly canyon]

Crazy

[umbral girder]

It’s more that Tiamat is just that strong on her own.

[rough basalt]

Like Foundry has recently made a strong stance of "AI can only be used for help with coding and if a module that runs on their foundry uses AI to run itself it must be with user consent"

[buoyant oar]

Yeah even if they banned all AI tomorrow on drive-thru RPG it will take them years to get all of it off. There's just so much right now

[fringe dirge]

bro.

[rough basalt]

You mean a Fiend?

[flint ledge]

Foundry the goat (imo obv)

[rough basalt]

Least there's some pushback happening from places it matters

Like Foundry may be a general VTT but its one of the most popular paid ones for dnd

[flint ledge]

I mean it's got some popular creators using it and is generally praised no?

[rough basalt]

This new policy gonna be the apocalypse for Shadowdark third party creators tho (90% AI cause the creator doesn't wanna take a stance)

[fringe dirge]

yes

[rough basalt]

Yep, main criticism is its too "gamey" but a lot of people like that

[flint ledge]

I mean you can do a lot manually or you can basically have it run like a smooth video game, I like it personally

[frail wasp]

If you're doing things manually it seems like more effort than it's worth

[rough basalt]

ye if you wanna just throw a map down use owlbear

no reason to spend money

[jolly canyon]

Finally used Owlbear and man it's a game changer. I told my party I'll be switching

[rough basalt]

There's a VTT for everyone which is nice

[jolly canyon]

Yup!

Lots of one anyone can find something they like

[minor cargo]

Haha, who was it again who used Google Sheets as their VTT?

Like the cells and stuff were coloured to be the map and everything.

[flint ledge]

Yeah I just meant both is possible though typically automation is used way more

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah and turning other stuff into VTTs

[lavish flame]

wait woah this is genius

[exotic cipher]

Hello! First post on the board. A friend and I are dnd 5E players looking to find a new group. Looking for more committed players who like diving into the story and playing it out. Now sure if I’m in the right place, if not a point in the right direction would be great!

[rough basalt]

Like Roll20 is good if you want tools as well as book access.
Owlbear is good if you just wanna throw maps down, but can get a lot more fancy as you wish.
DDB is akin to roll20 just nicer to use imo.
Talespire if you wanna make verticality insane
Tabletop Sim if you play TCG or Warhammer as well
Foundry if you got bad adhd like me and need a lot of toys to play with and like modding Skyrim.
Fantasy Grounds if you do coding for a living and love it.

[jolly canyon]

My westmarch team requires me to set up uhhh AboveVTT? Idr the name. Not sure if that's popular or whatever

[rough basalt]

Heard of it but never checked it out

Oh yeah AlchemyVTT if you're a Totm DM and just want picture sharing to help (this is what I remember being told about it)

[minor cargo]

Hey, welcome! You can follow along with #find-a-game. There are a few different "looking for" channels. Best of luck!

[exotic cipher]

Thank you!

[rough basalt]

It wouldn't surprise me if someone's made a VTT in Fortnite since it's become basically a game engine rather than just a game.

It's just UE5 dev engine with a game attached.

It's pretty amazing the stuff people will pull off purely out of boredom mixed with genius/madness

[jolly canyon]

A friend of mine said their dm friend uses TT Sim on steam which I thought was cool

[rough basalt]

Tabletop Sim is just a generally nice program

[minor cargo]

My "mad-lad" D&D idea is to see how far deep I can embed a TTRPG inside other TTRPGs.

For example: High school kids (Monsterhearts) play MASKS where their characters start a LANCER game, where the pilots start a D&D game, where the heroes start a Bluebeard's Bride game, where the women start a...-

[jolly canyon]

I liked the idea and quickly got overwhelmed with just learning how to dm that I shelved that idea. Honestly likely won't consider it any longer since I really am liking owlbear

[still plover]

It's TSL next and you know it.

[rough basalt]

When it comes to my tabletop creation I feel like I mix brilliance and madness well.

Throw in my pea sized brain.

And you get a mess

Sometimes a good mess

[jolly canyon]

My current table is vtt. Once my cousins moves back to my neck of the woods we will start an in person campaign. So I'll get a good sense of both. Did do two in-person ones with the wife and my sister but both on HotB kit

[umbral girder]

Minecraft VTT next /jk

[rough basalt]

I'll stick to Foundry as long as it exists probably

[jolly canyon]

Wouldn't be surprised if that's a thing lol

[rough basalt]

It's a lot of the reason I can dm tabletop games.

[glad arch]

Minecraft is a pretty perfect enviroment for a dnd vtt tbh

[paper portal]

yeah i can definitely see minecraft working

[glad arch]

As taz said i wouldnt be suprised either if that was a thing already

[paper portal]

you'd have to build each battle map which would be pretty time consuming though

[rough basalt]

If it wasn't for Foundry I doubt I'd still be trying to dm.

[rough basalt]

Kinda.
Least there's creative

[paper portal]

yeah you'd probably get faster the more you do it tbh

[umbral girder]

It’s reinventing some of the Project Sigil issues

[rough basalt]

Kinda same deal with making battlemaps on Dungeondraft or Inkarnate

[paper portal]

like it would take me 2 hours to build a battlemap at least but someone who actually knows what theyre doing could make a better one in 15 minutes

[rough basalt]

At first takes awhile, but after awhile you can just churn stuff out.

[paper portal]

i really like the idea of minecraft as a vtt ngl thats really cool

[rough basalt]

Most of my time spent making maps are avoiding actually making the map.

[glad arch]

Long live the power of crowd sourcing

[rough basalt]

It's why I got a map patreon

Tho sometimes I gotta make my own maps

[limber trail]

I’ve started getting maps thrown together in about 10 minutes if they’re minor enough

[jolly canyon]

I haven't subbed to any map sites yet cause idk who I should but I have bought a few pack off that very popular one. Czepeku?

[rough basalt]

Czepeku is what I use

[jolly canyon]

Oh! And you subbed to the Patreon?

[paper portal]

now do it in minecraft >:3c

[rough basalt]

Only once to get all the maps then unsubbed

[paper portal]

real

[jolly canyon]

Hmmm.

Maybe I shall too then

[rough basalt]

I'll resub in May for updates and to get it in my Forge Account so I don't need to worry about storage

Nice thing is for Foundry is you don't need to keep paying patreons

You only have to whenever you update foundry.

Gives you a sizeable two times a year purchase over it all adding up.

[frosty garnet]

I'll be running an MLP-inspired homebrew campaign soon; would it make more sense to refer to myself as 'Friendship Master' or is just Dungeon Master ok?

[trim cradle]

Hey how do i determine the dc to find someone hidden?

2024

[hexed girder]

if actively searching, you still use perception checks against what the person hiding rolled on their stealth

[trim cradle]

If they rolled 22

I have to roll 22+?

[valid geyser]

yup

[burnt grove]

How would One stat a large throwing chakram that could be used in melee think tira from soul calibur. is 1d6 Vex good or nah?

or would this be another channel discussion

[trim cradle]

Hey so if i spot him and he hides again, does he roll against my roll or all over again

[burnt grove]

i mean it is technically a two handed weapon ... hmm

[valid geyser]

it'd be the check of the new stealth roll

[restive blade]

So I’m playing as a level 6 champion fighter right now, and I want to dip 2 levels into barbarian for reckless attack, getting reckless attack would be a much bigger damage increase compared to a ASI or feat right? (I already have 20 strength and GWM)

[trim cradle]

So i gotta beat his roll again

[valid geyser]

it could be, but it'd also make you a lot easier to hit. I'd say it wouldn't be the worst, but also I'd think about how long your game goes (Indominable and champion level 10 are very very good)

[trim cradle]

Can i use faerie fire to spot him?

The hiding enemy

[rough basalt]

if he fails, he'd be lit up like a christmas tree, itd be hard to miss him

[paper portal]

keep in mind though if you attack someone or cast a spell with a verbal component etc it un-hides you

[restive blade]

I have a armor class of 20 right now with adamantine plate, getting hit isn’t as bad for me as me landing an attack

[valid geyser]

yeah but theres also a lot of other ways to get advantage on attacks

[trim cradle]

If the enemy attacks now can i see him again?

[restive blade]

Besides flanking and attacking prone/paralyzed enemies, what else?

[umbral girder]

Stealth is broken if you attack or cast a spell (unless stated other wise)

[valid geyser]

lucky feat, magic initiate for something like faerie fire, crusher feat

also for fighters assuming 5.5e champion level 10 will just be free inspiration every turn, so at least one attack with advantage for free

[umbral girder]

20 AC is gonna be falling in a few levels too knowing D&D’s curve with monsters

[knotty vine]

20 ac isnt the best at higher levels yeah

[restive blade]

Wait where are you getting the free inspiration every turn from?

[knotty vine]

2024 fighter thing

they get inspiration if they start a turn without it

[jolly canyon]

I didn't wanna tell my players how to play but my sorc is rocking 11 ac with no mage armor and 17 hp at I think lvl 4. Idr if it bumped up. I hinted at Mage Armor but he insisted all damage spells. Next combat sesh gonna be rough for bro.

[worn lagoon]

Elven chain needed for sure

[knotty vine]

bros gonna die

17 hp is rough for ever a sorcerer did he dumb con?

[jolly canyon]

Might be higher than 17 idr

[worn lagoon]

I gave my party a wand of magic missile and a wand of fireballs, both are rotting in the bag of holding

[jolly canyon]

But it was 17 at lvl 3 for sure

[knotty vine]

sorcerer is pretty crazy in 24

[worn lagoon]

24 sorc is fun

[knotty vine]

mainly wild magic

[jolly canyon]

He went storm cause that's what he played on bg3 lmfao

[knotty vine]

being able to get advantage and roll on the wild magic table is just insane

i always give my self advantage on int rolls

[fallow lintel]

my brother broke the sword of my figure and i need super glue

[tall wharf]

Hi

I'm new

[worn lagoon]

eh its aight

i insist abbmind and draconic are still better

[knotty vine]

yeah but after you get to roll on the wild magic table

[fallow lintel]

my fig greets you (doesnt have a pic yet)

[knotty vine]

for 1 hour the sorcerer is effected immortal

[worn lagoon]

which could very well turn you into a fern pot midbattle

[fallow lintel]

my warlock fig so looks like a fighter 💔

[restive blade]

Bro didn’t even take wizard initiate for shield? 💔

[knotty vine]

1 in 100

i got to cast fire ball at level 3

[fallow lintel]

ok

[jolly canyon]

Idk what spells he took exactly but it sure wasn't mage armor

[restive blade]

Hiya

[worn lagoon]

it's actually 4% no?

[knotty vine]

they also changed fire ball from being on self to being able to just cast it on someone else

[worn lagoon]

awww, that's much less funny

[knotty vine]

it is but still very fun

[severe rampart]

been meaning to play a wild magic sorcerer too, but oneshots are abysmal in the lfg channels right now

[knotty vine]

how is it 4%?

[idle oar]

Hey folks - please use #character-discussion or #optimization if you're diving into character discussions in detail (pick the one that best suits the topic - is it just general character build chatter or optimizing to a specific purpose)

[worn lagoon]

37. 38, 39 or 40 result in potted plant

[knotty vine]

oh right

[worn lagoon]

I would like to play specifically 14 wm

as a dip on a wizard or somethin'

[fallow lintel]

i ordered a warlock figure but it turns out to be an elf neither a dragonborn

explodes

[true badger]

Hey guys I recently wanted to do a dnd session with my two brothers to see if they like it and hopefully start a campaign but do you guys think this plan for the session is good I’m new and could use tips it’s based off a secret town that the adventures find and is under control by a hive mind and they must save the town
Anyone interested dm me since I can’t send messages 😭

[idle oar]

You just sent a message?

[true badger]

Look at the end

[idle oar]

You session concept sounds fine

[true badger]

I made a picture

[idle oar]

Feel free to hit up #dm-discussion if you want other DM's feedback

[true badger]

If ya wanna see it I sent it in dms

[idle oar]

Yeah we don't allow image uploads generally. Use a reputable hosting/image sharing service and link to it that way

[true badger]

Ah

[idle oar]

And as noted, feel free to share your idea and ask for feedback in #dm-discussion

[fallow lintel]

neither my classmates know dnd

but me

[umbral girder]

For some reason I’m imagining a level 1 boss fight in D&D that is just a Polar Bear

It would most likely kill them,

Also amused 2024 buffed the Polar Bear by giving it cold resistance

[fallow lintel]

srsly

[worn lagoon]

yea

[umbral girder]

Yes

2014 had a lot of things like that

And 2024 fixed a good bit of them

[paper portal]

idk i think i could beat a fish

[umbral girder]

Polar Bears aren’t fish

[steady sentinel]

Cast polymorph and turn the bear into a bear fish lol

[umbral girder]

The bear casts counter spell

[steady sentinel]

Lmao

[umbral girder]

There is a module (I will not say the module) but there is a bear that casts Counterspell

And does a boat load of Force damage

[idle oar]

Okay folks let's get back on topic

this is not codewords

[feral fulcrum]

I'm curious to see if we get more interesting Feats in Arcana Unleashed

More excited for that then Curse Of Strahd 2, Vampire Boogaloo

[knotty vine]

i still think its funny that unsettling words is just cutting words but slightly stronger

is cutting words stronger?

cutting words from lore bards takes a reaction and can effect attack rolls ability checks and saving throws but creature can be immune to the effect unsettling words takes a bonus action and no creatures are immune to the effect 🤔 oh and it can only effect saving throws

[feral fulcrum]

Cutting words effects way more things then Unsettling words?

[knotty vine]

yeah but if a creautre cant hear you or if its immune to charm then cutting doesnt do anything

[feral fulcrum]

And there's not exactly many Deaf things, and outside of Fey creatures, Immunity to Charm isn't common

[knotty vine]

• i doubt you'd ever really use cutting for an ability check

attack rolls maybe

oh in 2024 they removed its ability to reduce saving throws

thats kinda sad

You learn to use your wit to supernaturally distract, confuse, and otherwise sap the confidence and competence of others. When a creature that you can see within 60 feet of yourself makes a damage roll or succeeds on an ability check or attack roll, you can take a Reaction to expend one use of your Bardic Inspiration; roll your Bardic Inspiration die, and subtract the number rolled from the creature’s roll, reducing the damage or potentially turning the success into a failure.

[torn moat]

im making a oneshot for the first time/ DMing in general
is it smart to make a flowchart for how i want the general series of events to go?

like for example. i give them the option of two quests on a questboard (in this instance, 30-50 wild hogs that have been terrorizing travelers trying to travel too and from the kindom. or a notorious thief that's been robbing drunkards after they leave the tavern for the night)

their choice gives them a direction to go towards.

a couple of events will happen between grabbing the quest and going to the place the quest says to go to (the guild for the hogs or the tavern for the thief)

when they reach their respective quest locations they get some general info on the quest by the questgiver,

they then encounter some events and have to do some checks that all lead up to the main fight of the quest

[knotty vine]

oh you can reduce damage through which is kinda ehh

[feral fulcrum]

In general it's probably best practice to leave things as Flexible as possible, because Players can, and will, do whatever they want.

And if things require things to basically be a one way railroad to work...it's gonna fall apart real fast.

[torn moat]

that's what im scared of and trying to relatively avoid

[umbral girder]

I’m amused how Mind Flayers and Elder Brains aren’t immune to being charmed.
Super resistant to it, but not immune.

[knotty vine]

i mean why would they be

[feral fulcrum]

Outright Immunity to Charm is pretty much only a Fey thing.

[umbral girder]

I figured aliens with absolute control over the mind would be immune.

[knotty vine]

i know a few undeads that are immune to charm

not a lot of them are

[umbral girder]

Fiends too. Mainly named ones I think.

[knotty vine]

clearly its not absolute

[feral fulcrum]

MInd Flayers are definitely not capable of Absolute Control or they'd be much more dangerous in general.

Elder Brains you could argue for as they're...well, Peak and basically Psionic Bioweapons of Doom.

[knotty vine]

yeah they would also be immune to freighted casue you know in utter control of there emotions

just cause it makes sense sometimes doesnt mean it should happen

[woven flint]

Surprisingly, there are less fey immune to charm than you'd think

[knotty vine]

i feel like oozes undeads and construts are more immune to charm

if i remember correctly almost all oozes are immune to charmed
a little over half of undead are immune to it
and two thirds of construct

[woven flint]

Undead, Elementals, Constructs, Fiends and I believe a good majority of higher CR Dragons are as well

[umbral girder]

How many Oozes are there in DnD

[knotty vine]

plenty

[lavish flame]

Too few

[frail wasp]

just the right amount

[knotty vine]

theres only 4 core ones from what i can recall through

[umbral girder]

Well ancient dragons aren’t. So we got Greatwyrm’s and… what else?

[short brook]

A lot, they even got a tarrasque-esqe one

[lavish flame]

Gray Ooze, Yellow Ochre, there's a third color one I think, Gelatinous Cube, and Blob of Annihilation

Black Pudding!

[knotty vine]

Slithering Tracker, Oblex Spawn, Adult Oblex, Elder Oblex, White Maw, Dragonblood Ooze.

[short brook]

Blob of Annihilation is a great name lol

[umbral girder]

Out of the 1000ish monsters in DnD 5e that is…… an amount

[knotty vine]

does it do force damage?

i mean..

[short brook]

Juiblex is an ooze right?

[lavish flame]

yup!

[empty thicket]

the whole lifespam of the oblex XD

[umbral girder]

Fiend

[lavish flame]

when it Pseudopods, that does Force damage

[umbral girder]

He is a Demon Lord

[knotty vine]

they all count as different creature lol

despite being the same

[short brook]

they're not mutually exclusive though?

[umbral girder]

They are

[woven flint]

Yeah, even if Juiblex is a giant Ooze, he's considered a Fiend Monster-Type wise

[empty thicket]

Spawn, teenager, adult, elder, giga elder and finally Dead oblex

[umbral girder]

His stat block is Fiend

[lavish flame]

Fiend and Ooze are, Juiblex is a Fiend due to Demon reasons

[short brook]

gotcha

[knotty vine]

i should play stars druid someday

[short brook]

but he is blob and father of blobs so close enough

[jolly canyon]

Play it today!

[lavish flame]

yeah he's the gloopmeister

[knotty vine]

i cant

[woven flint]

I'm playing a Moon Bard soon 🧐

[knotty vine]

i dont have any games

[hidden spindle]

Juiblex is a Fiend? Tiefling can work with that...

[knotty vine]

i still think that dnd did magic weapons wrong

[jolly canyon]

I'm playing my first real session this weekend. I made a Goliath Cleric. It's a westmarch too. No idea if thay feels any different than a one shot or whatever. Either way om excited

[short brook]

imagine having relations to Juiblex, gross

[knotty vine]

or WOTC did magic weapons wrong

[hidden spindle]

Do tell

[topaz obsidian]

Where do I put a looking for players post for a game of mine

[knotty vine]

most magic weapons just deal an extra 1-3 damage i mean sure you hit more often but that doesnt do much when your fighting something with 400 hp

[idle oar]

Check the information/instructions in #find-a-game

[short brook]

the chance to hit is better than the damage tbh

[knotty vine]

and the other cool magic weapons for that have more damage dice example im gonna use here being the holy avenger does 2d10 extra damage! against fiends and undeads

[feral fulcrum]

You're forgetting that most Magic weapons also generally do other things.

[umbral girder]

Per hit and usually with an attack bonus for actually hitting them too

[woven flint]

Yeah, Ghaunadaur is the cooler Ooze-like God

[knotty vine]

but if you look at a magic item for druid wizard sorcerer any full caster they do much much more

[feral fulcrum]

And that some also just straight up do additional dice of damage.

[rough basalt]

Ye for a high level fighter for example. Consistently hitting 3-4 times for 50-100 without using resources is nice.

[umbral girder]

Plus the +1-3 weapons don’t need attunement too. The ones with bonus stuff do.

[knotty vine]

yeah but adding 2 extra dice of fire damage is cool i mean the generic +1-3 weapons

[umbral girder]

So you can make use of both items

[rough basalt]

Vicious Greatsword/Maul are probably the nicest for fighters

[feral fulcrum]

I like that Magic weapons are generally not focused on purely just doing more damage on hits. "Number, but Bigger, and that's it." Is boring

[rough basalt]

32d6 if all attacks hit on an action surge

[knotty vine]

thats what im talking about in this case

the +1-3 weapons are boring and wrong

[rough basalt]

They're simple which is fine.

[knotty vine]

it does slightly more damage great

just give me a bag of holding atp

[feral fulcrum]

I wouldn't call them wrong. Or even an issue, since...They're one kind of magic weapon out of quite a few

[short brook]

I do like varied stuff over just numbers

But numbers is never bad either, sometimes you definitely need it

[rough basalt]

Yeah +? Weapons are just a solid can put anywhere item and it's helpful

[feral fulcrum]

The actual, bigger issue in Magic Weapons in 5E (At least in 2014), Is 80% of them being EXPLICITLY and ONLY swords.

And oftentimes specific kinds of swords

[knotty vine]

rapier!

[rough basalt]

Yeah 2024 has lightened up a bit on weapons needing to be certain weapons but it's still there.

[knotty vine]

luck blade is still a goofy sword

[feral fulcrum]

Which rather hampered the usefulness of most of the Magic Items in 2014

[hidden spindle]

You're right. They could be better.

Minor properties help a little bit.

I would've liked to've seen more unique prerequisites

[rough basalt]

I think it's good for a streamlined system to have a basic upgrade path if nothing fits

[knotty vine]

i like unique magic items not sword that does more damage

[rough basalt]

It's a combat centric game

[knotty vine]

or sword that does much more more damage against certain creature type

[paper portal]

hello chat whats up

[short brook]

I mean yeah, but those also give number so its ok

[hidden spindle]

Agreed. Better Base or evolutionary branches

[rough basalt]

I mean why would a sword created by the heavens to smite Fiends and Undead do bonus damage to Fiends and Undead /j

[hidden spindle]

It was kind of the whole ordeal with '14 Weapons just being damage dice

[short brook]

sunblade still gotta be one of my favorites

[umbral girder]

And? You said this is how 5e does magic items bad but you ignore the rest of hundreds of magic items too.

[feral fulcrum]

Flayer Slayer~

[knotty vine]

i would rather take a cloakword amulet over a sword

[rough basalt]

Then take it

There's like 500 magic items in the '24 dmg and six of them are +? Martial weapons.

[umbral girder]

And that’s ignore items from other books too

[rough basalt]

Like bigbys having a pistol/shotgun that does thunderdamage

[jolly canyon]

Speaking of. Has hasbro/wotc announced any 5.5 cards yet? 🤔

[knotty vine]

just give me a ring of spell turning

[rough basalt]

I think they're coming in the fall

[jolly canyon]

Perfect!

[umbral girder]

Plenty of magic items aren’t even caster locked too.

[jolly canyon]

Well not super perfect but good enough

[worn lagoon]

weren't you DMing one at some point?

[knotty vine]

was i?

[worn lagoon]

I mean, you put out a lfg and I applied and all

I assumed it'd still be going by now

[knotty vine]

i think i forgot

[feral fulcrum]

I got to make one as my Wizard's signature weapon, it's powered by a Dragon Heart, and has scalable damage powered by spell slot expenditure.

[knotty vine]

oh wait its been put on pause

[feral fulcrum]

That's a bad sign.

[knotty vine]

im gonna buy foundry

[frail wasp]

well this got awkward

[knotty vine]

then run the game

[umbral girder]

Big yikes

[short brook]

I heard foundry was hard to learn?

[idle oar]

Can be - it's amazingly flexible VTT but that comes at some cost of complexity

[knotty vine]

it cant be that hard

[jolly canyon]

Sora not Ti is a big fan of it

[feral fulcrum]

It's definitely worth it's cost as the very least.

And is highly tinkerable

[idle oar]

It's a pretty nice VTT

[severe rampart]

it has a pretty steep learning curve

[livid owl]

All my foundry games have been stunning, but building character sheets on it has been a problem

[short brook]

I heard foundry is peak, but it comes with the cost of complexity so this lines up

[severe rampart]

I like Owlbear more, free and not that complicated

[livid owl]

I like roll20 because of the beyond 20 extension

[knotty vine]

so i gotta pay and learn uagh

[rough basalt]

It's got a decent learning curve.

[jolly canyon]

I'll be using Owlbear since it so far feels beginner friendly. I never had an issue with D&Dvtt either.

[feral fulcrum]

you gotta learn with any system

[severe rampart]

it also has audio compatibility, dynamic lighting, etc. So yeah, Owlbear peak

[feral fulcrum]

And it's a one time cost.

[rough basalt]

It's the easiest complex VTT imo

[white cave]

Foundry also has a beyond 20 Expansion module

[knotty vine]

i dont like roll20 feels too...

[severe rampart]

Beyond20 has been bugging lately.

[knotty vine]

whats the word

[feral fulcrum]

Roll20 is janky

[knotty vine]

thanks asdx

[feral fulcrum]

It's not awful, but it's definitely janky

[severe rampart]

Agreed

[rough basalt]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of roll20

[feral fulcrum]

It's definitely made of glue and spaghetti under the hood

[short brook]

truth, playing on my first roll20 game and its... alright

[rough basalt]

Unless we're just using it purely for tokens and the map

[jolly canyon]

Yea I was gonna go r20 until I got several people telling me it's not all that great. Of course that's a small sample size of opinions but I trusted them

[severe rampart]

Roll20 gets so frustrating when you set it up

[knotty vine]

ill never understand people that prefer roll20 over dndbeyond 😭

[rough basalt]

I hate Roll20s charactermancer

[knotty vine]

character creation wise i mean

[paper portal]

yeah i dont like any dnd character builder ngl

[knotty vine]

dndbeyonds layout is just so much better

[livid owl]

Yeah I don't like building character creation on roll20 that's why I use the beyond 20 extension lol

[feral fulcrum]

D&Dbeyond is finicky and prone to the Site just refusing to work at times

[severe rampart]

Hasn't Beyond20 been bugging for you?

[feral fulcrum]

So I get why people often don't like it

[knotty vine]

true

[severe rampart]

sends one roll for DnDbeyond and another roll to roll20, being completely different results.

[jolly canyon]

All of my sessions so far have been on Beyond. I haven't had any issues. Now that's not me trying to say it's good though. I have no experience elsewear

[paper portal]

makes me wanna code my own character builder but idk how legal that would be

[livid owl]

Not really? Except for trying to do critical rolls

[knotty vine]

im just way more familiar with dndbeyond

[short brook]

honestly i'd rather just fill a pdf than using character creators

[rough basalt]

Only new change to ddb I like is that when you open the dice history it starts at the most recent roll so rolling now so it's easy to keep track of.

[knotty vine]

pen and paper was pretty fun

[white cave]

Have that but only with one of my players it's weird

[knotty vine]

through leveling up was a pain

[rough basalt]

Rather than have to scroll through months of rolls to get to my damage roll cause I had to double check

[severe rampart]

Yeah, I opted for just not using Beyond20

[severe fox]

Oath of the Noble Genie Daos crush is so broken

[severe rampart]

you can see the rolls if you're in the same campaign in DDB anyway

[rough basalt]

I have sheets handled in foundry directly.
I'd never do pen and paper unless I'm playing irl.

[feral fulcrum]

I just use a Google Sheet, it's more flexible and customizable. I do so love making toggles...

[woven flint]

My laptop is ass, so I have trouble with all tabletop simulator things sometimes, but I make it work 😎

[white cave]

I hope it gets fixed soon...

[severe fox]

the fact that you can do it at ranged is just bonkers to me

[jolly canyon]

I can't wait to do in person p&p honestly.

[idle oar]

Beyond20 (a third-party extension that is not supported by either D&DBeyond and Roll20) is not up to speed with some of the recent changes D&DBeyond has been implementing

[rough basalt]

I trust my players but pen and paper is a no go for me online.

[severe rampart]

Guess that's why it's been bugging out

[short brook]

I remember not having a laptop and I made a character sheet in my notes tab 😭

[livid owl]

Maybe it HAS been doing non-congruent rolls and I just haven't noticed lol

[rough basalt]

Too easy to cheat if people got the idea

[hidden spindle]

Are online games that different based on their VTT? huh...

[severe fox]

why would.. thats such a weird thing to do

[rough basalt]

Cause you don't wanna lose usually

[short brook]

People that cheat on dnd are crazy man

[woven flint]

I like being a reliable player 😎

[idle oar]

The tools impact the game just as much as the game and the people impact the tools

[rough basalt]

Most cheating in dnd comes from a place of thinking dnd is a game to win.

[hidden spindle]

Its quite fascinating

[severe rampart]

the only thing I dislike about Owlbear is that the free storage is only 200 mb, I'm not even like 5% into my campaign yet and I've already used 100 mb

[short brook]

It's bizarre to me

[woven flint]

... say that again.

[severe fox]

steel ball run!!

[feral fulcrum]

Is it time for a Bizarre Adventure?

[umbral girder]

It’s

[severe rampart]

I can afford the subscription, but with USD not being my currency, along with it not accepting my currency at all it's been pretty tricky to navigate through it

[livid owl]

Yeah my tables are all pretty honest I haven't run into that before

[rough basalt]

I've seen it happen a couple times

[jolly canyon]

My friends roll public on vtt so I haven't had that issue. Hopefully I never do

[woven flint]

I had the perfect chance to be Gyro Zeppeli with my fighter, but the chance escaped my mind 😔
(He does mounted combat)

[livid owl]

That's such a weird mindset to me because oftentimes I like failing rolls more than winning them LOL

[severe rampart]

Use the golden ratio Tokii

[white cave]

Really if someone cheats with their rolls it is to their own disadvantage. Rolling low is sometimes more fun ^^

[short brook]

Failings rolls is fun when you're not only failing rolls

[severe rampart]

had advantage on a roll, the first roll I got a natural 1 and begged my DM to let me take the natural 1

[livid owl]

Speak for yourself, I love my characters being failboys Lol

[livid owl]

HAHAHHA

[woven flint]

You know, I wonder how much people outside of my party would like Orizontas if they played with him

He's very kind and honorable, but he also has a habit of being too honest to people lmao

[short brook]

Only failing? Idk it feels bad for you character to not be helpful to the party

[severe rampart]

it was a medicine check, I roleplayed it as my sorcerer using mending to "superglue" a guy's severed arm back

[lavish flame]

Pen+Paper on a VTT kinda makes me question using a VTT

[short brook]

Feels like nothing would have changed if I didn't attend the session

[severe fox]

i still think its super silly that a lich can be taken down with a divine smite and Jallarzi's Storm of Radiance

[rough basalt]

Pen and Paper would also be a pain with foundry cause the whole thing with its automation is being able to just roll and apply.

[undone rain]

Whats good my oath gang

[woven flint]

You'd need almost perfect turn order, to be honest

[severe fox]

Alert!!

[rough basalt]

New Lich with an average initiative of 20 something

[woven flint]

You see, me personally..
I'd just give my Lich a Ring of Freedom of movement anyway 💀
Just so people can't restrain it

[lavish flame]

avg hp of 315 Lich?

[severe fox]

also as a wizard in 24 if you take the alert feat and have a familiar you pretty much always have advantage on Initive rolls

[woven flint]

Give your Liches magic items!
Let them be more prepared for shenanigans!

[severe fox]

Dao's crush prevents the lich from moving and Storm of radiance prevents it from seeing/casting any spells

[severe rampart]

how does having a familiar give you advantage on initiative rolls?

[severe fox]

your familiar also rolls initiative if it got higher then you just swap it with the alert feat

[severe rampart]

Ah, true

[severe fox]

so you can roll twice and take the highest

[lavish flame]

I might suggest a buried lede or two was just unearthed by this additional context

[true monolith]

Same with dragons tbh, also i wouldnt know how to estimate their CR then

[severe fox]

huh?

[paper portal]

thats cus modern dnd is designed to let players do whatever and still win most of the time

[woven flint]

The Lich when it uses its teleport legendary action after the paladins turn to get CLOSER to the party

[severe fox]

it cant teleport if it cant see

[woven flint]

Note, I said after the paladins turn

[severe fox]

in this case the paladin goes after or before the wizard

[lavish flame]

i still think its super silly that a lich can be taken down with a divine smite and Jallarzi's Storm of Radiance
the buried ledes would be: this needs a specific Paladin subclass, and that it would take many Divine Smites

[severe fox]

oath of the noble genie is a great subclass

[woven flint]

Then it's simple
Never fight an Adventuring party in a room that's bigger than Counterspell Range 🧐

[severe fox]

and it only needs 1

[severe fox]

aura of protec?

[woven flint]

You've got 315 health and a paralyzing touch

[severe fox]

counter spell is just a con save now

[woven flint]

Also, the point that Liches will almost NEVER fight a party by themselves?

[lavish flame]

315 damage (give or take) in 1 Divine Smite? how?

[severe fox]

not to mention the paladin can just smite via thrown weapons

[paper portal]

the lich, a great and powerful magic user who has risen from the dead time and time again
weakness: large open spaces

[rich wave]

Based

[woven flint]

C'mon, now, you can't expect to white room only fighting a lich
It's probably gonna have a few powerful undead

[severe fox]

im saying that you can eaisly pin down a lich and let the rest of the party attack with advantage and it wont be able to move taking 4d10 if it fails (half if it passes) damage

[rich wave]

Not if the DM straight up lies

Simple fix lol

[severe fox]

and dao's crush counts as a grapple so

[woven flint]

A Lich, a Mummy Lord, a Vampire and a Death Knight walk into a bar with their undead armies:

[lavish flame]

You can't say "take down" and mean something that isn't "defeat in a fight". what

[severe fox]

its a silly idea that works in theory

unless the lich has a magic item up his sleeve

[woven flint]

Which they definetly should

[severe fox]

im talking about base lich

best melee in the game

granted this can work for any strong spell caster that needs to do verbal componets

[umbral girder]

It’s had a Paladin of the Noble Genies fight a Lich amusingly

He died.

[severe rampart]

Man, I'm really really bored in between sessions of DMing Curse of Strahd, what do you guys normally do when you got nothing else to prep for next session?

[severe fox]

if the paladin has a save dc of 21 then the lich pretty much cant leave

[cerulean monolith]

Other hobbies? Or just, allow yourself to be bored

[severe fox]

play chess

[jolly canyon]

In relation to dnd or in general?

[severe rampart]

play Dragonchess

[severe fox]

hell yes

[severe rampart]

In general would be obvious hobbies and such, I guess in relation to DnD? when you got an itch you just can't scratch

[paper portal]

make optimized character builds duh :3

[jolly canyon]

With my free time my wife and I been discussing potential characters amd which family members we can convince to play

[paper portal]

based

[jolly canyon]

My sister was successful #1 and now baby cousin might be #2!

[fickle heart]

Homebrew, homebrew, homebrew.

[severe fox]

got into a curse of strhad game what should i expect

[severe rampart]

Curses, Strahd

[umbral girder]

Making Dungeons

[severe fox]

fair

[severe rampart]

and Fighting Dragons?

[paper portal]

what about making dragons

[umbral girder]

Nah just making dungeons for future adventures between sessions is pretty fun

[severe rampart]

I have made 7, and I can't even play them all

[lavish flame]

I play bass guitar when I have free time from D&D prep. Thats basically a business expense for D&D tho, cuz I take ideas from music all the time.

[severe rampart]

and yes, all of them are spellcasters

[paper portal]

more!!!

[umbral girder]

First rolling up the random lay outs, figuring out placements of encounters and traps, themes for the dungeon and specific rules, seeing how to get a hazard or two in there.

Fun stuff overall

[severe rampart]

doesn't help that my games are all not spaced out

[crimson gulch]

then you got space for more games in between them

[severe rampart]

we've got Friday Night, Saturday Afternoon, Sunday Night, and recently, Monday Afternoon

[severe rampart]

you are so right

[worn lagoon]

run CoS for meeeeee :3c

or tomb of annihilation

[umbral girder]

Not a recruitment or looking for game chat

[severe rampart]

I have the urge to run death house multiple times again

[worn lagoon]

Yes, I have eyes.

[severe rampart]

He's a friend, no worries

my PCs did just escape from the death house...

[worn lagoon]

You could also just run oneshots

[crimson gulch]

not death house, Death Neiborhood

[knotty vine]

not gonna lie thief rogue was slept on

[severe rampart]

I've run it thrice now, I have all the locations in my head memorized

and next next session I think my players are finally getting to Madam Eva

[jolly canyon]

I so wanna run CoS some time. Seems everyone adores it

[rose patrol]

Hello everyone im pretty new to dnd ive only watched critical role and dm my own session with my friends but it wasnt anything proper, if im looking for a game to join here where do i go?

[severe rampart]

I highly adore it, though Strahd is a creep.

[knotty vine]

is he?

[severe rampart]

very much so

[prime basin]

#looking-for-players

[knotty vine]

funny

[tall wharf]

Hey, I'm involved in my high school campaign and am new to dnd sorta

[severe rampart]

though no one can top how weird the ||Vallaki Burgomaster is||

[paper portal]

ive been told to run ToA with 3x enemies

[knotty vine]

thats curel]

[rose patrol]

Oh thanks

[worn lagoon]

tomb of anni is also on my bucket list

[knotty vine]

same here

i still love that genie warlock can cast spike growth and use eldetich blast to push and pull enemy

[worn lagoon]

dao genies can also do it with the crusher feat

[knotty vine]

true

[paper portal]

dao is great yeah

genie is my favourite sub but i gotta say i like efreeti more than dao

[worn lagoon]

i go for efreeti because as good as spike growth is i also have hadar

[knotty vine]

its also the only warlock with wish casue duh

[white cave]

Have you thought about what happens if a genie warlock has a bag of holding or something similar and uses his Bottled Respite? Does that open a portal to the astral plane as per description of the bag of holding and it entering an item that creates an extradimensional space?

[knotty vine]

i know wizard is plentry strong already but im not a fan of how boring a lot of there subclasses are

[craggy summit]

I absolutely agree and that's my biggest gripe with wizards

I know their gimmick is that they have the best spell list, but they have basically non existent subclass features, besides divination wizard

[worn lagoon]

some of them are blood pressure decreasing

i love divzard à

[knotty vine]

like iknow its kinda there whole deal but a lot of the subclasses getting Beginning when you select this school at 2nd level, the gold and time you must spend to copy a blank spell into your spellbook is halved.

[paper portal]

i like some of them but eh

conjuration, war and abjuration

[knotty vine]

conjruation war and ab are a few exceptions yeah but a lot of them are a snooze fest

thats why i like chrono so much like being able to add int to initiative rolls and getting SB two times for free per day is just amazing

[paper portal]

bladesinger i especially dont like lol

[paper portal]

that's also why it's busted

[knotty vine]

nah the reason why its busted is because of its high level features

Arcane Abeyance and Convergant future

convergant is pretty much a slightly worse version of portent

[worn lagoon]

bladesinger is...

[paper portal]

well that too but the fact that its low level features are also top tier means theres no real opportunity cost to taking it

[knotty vine]

true

[worn lagoon]

i don't think a lot of people realize how awful it still is for a wizard to come to melee and do pisspoor damage in return

[knotty vine]

it has little to no downsides

[worn lagoon]

like bowsinger builds are aight i guess

[paper portal]

yeah thats why i dont like bladesinger, it doesnt even get any actual martial features until level 10 and its overrated as all hell

[craggy summit]

Especially considering their hit die is a d6, and giving them armor and weapon proficiency is like slapping a bandaid on a broken arm

[worn lagoon]

you do get to turn one of your arrows into a true strike for free

[knotty vine]

trueu

[worn lagoon]

now I will shill hextra attack, it's essentially a free bow shot on top of whatever cantrip you were already going to cast

[arctic roost]

apparently in 3e they used d4s as their hit die

[knotty vine]

you also get dunamancy spells cause yeah

[paper portal]

mostly i just dislike overrated stuff tbh but like attacking with int should be a level 2 feature not a level 10

[knotty vine]

they did lmao

[craggy summit]

That's what I heard from my veteran players 😅 which is crazy to think about

[knotty vine]

i played in 3e and no one touched wizard

[worn lagoon]

pretty much all wizards enjoy a lv1 fighter dip anyway, so ignoring their key feature is better for AC overall

[arctic roost]

like i said i'm usually a paladin myself
mild spellcasting but also there's the use of weapons

[knotty vine]

all 2014 wizard taking 2 levels in fighter 😭

[craggy summit]

Atleast you can get heavy armor that way

[knotty vine]

action surge was way to broken

[worn lagoon]

con prof also, but its a choice between getting hypnotic pattern one level late and that

[worn lagoon]

way too heavy cost until much later imo

[craggy summit]

It's not that bad if you ask me, you're only taking a one level detour for heavy armor

[knotty vine]

i mean when you were already up there in later levels and wizard reach the peak of there power at 17 2 levels in fighter wasnt much

[worn lagoon]

well yeah that's lv19, i was viewing it from a lv5-10 perspective

[knotty vine]

casting fire ball twice in 1 round was strong

[knotty vine]

still decently strong

[worn lagoon]

i'd rather do this after lv5 and miss out on con prof until lv9 tbh

[knotty vine]

hold person into scortching ray

[worn lagoon]

i'll have war caster i'll be fine

[knotty vine]

the list goes on and on

[worn lagoon]

i like hadar and plant growth on the same turn

[paper portal]

theres other armor dips that are much better than fighter

[worn lagoon]

actually, if you do play stars tasha, we should do that

[paper portal]

but yeah the point still stands

[worn lagoon]

in the context of a bowsinger archery fighting style is pretty good

[craggy summit]

And tbf you can get away with not having prof in con saves aslong as you aren't playing dangerous when you have a concentration spell up

[arctic roost]

magic missile is something i would consider broken, it's pretty much a guaranteed hit and you can choose more than one creature to target depending on what level you cast it at

[paper portal]

yeah i meant for general wizards, cleric druid and hexblade will all do you better than fighter tbh

[worn lagoon]

that's a stat investment to be done ahead in time though

[knotty vine]

true true

[worn lagoon]

i'd assume every wizard has the dex to be a fighter

[craggy summit]

It's handy for sure, but broken is a bit of a stretch considering it only does 1d4+1 damage per missle which is the only thing keeping it a 1st level spell

[worn lagoon]

1d4+1 is very tiny damage

i only use it for breaking concentration

[knotty vine]

4d6+6

[craggy summit]

A wizard with a dagger could do more than 1d4+1 damage tbf 😅

[scenic zinc]

Tell that to the evocation wizard

[craggy summit]

How does it turn into a d6? 🤔

[knotty vine]

each magic missle does +1

[worn lagoon]

i think this got ruined in 24

[knotty vine]

pretty sure you can count

oh wait

[arctic roost]

they nerfed the shit out of exhaustion in 24

[lavish flame]

wait holy shit my Evoker wizard is gonna go nuts I didn't even realize

[paper portal]

magic missile isnt even close to the best 1st level spell

[lavish flame]

i didnt mean to ping, lo siento!

[paper portal]

oops accidental reply lol

[empty thicket]

like now its worse or better for the players? more forgiving?

[knotty vine]

its more forgiving

[worn lagoon]

they changed the wording on magic missile to make it more interpretable as seperate rolls now

[hot reef]

Magic Missile guaranteed
It depends on their dex score and the opponent’s AC, but a single magic missile will usually be more effective than a dagger attack from a wizard

[empty thicket]

in which way?

[lavish flame]

Now Exhaustion is a -2 to D20 Tests and a -5 to ur Speed per each level of Exhaust you have. When you hit 6 levels, you still die.

[knotty vine]

bingo!

[umbral girder]

I mean -2 on all D20 rolls and -5ft per level exhaustion is still pretty punishing.

[worn lagoon]

go my booming blade

[paper portal]

yeah i think in terms of pure damage magic missile is the most you get for a 1st level spell after you factor for hit chance

[lavish flame]

So at Exhaust 3, you have a -6 to all d20 rolls and 15 less speed

[empty thicket]

depend, it reach a point that magic missile is more used to disrupt concentrations and other stuff

[scenic zinc]

Yet another reason to play '14

[knotty vine]

i manged to cast 4 spells within the 24 rules

[arctic roost]

yeah it used to cut your max hp in half, give you disadvantage on a bunch of stuff, and reduce your speed

now all it does is change your modifer and reduce your speed 5 feet per level

level 6 is the same where you just randomly die

[empty thicket]

in theory you would die of... a heart attack(?)

[knotty vine]

its the same for both but i dont think your speed is 0 in 24

[empty thicket]

but that is just wording//flavor and kinda good for me

[umbral girder]

Disadvantage on ability checks
Half speed
Disadvantage on attacks and saves
Hp max is halved
0 speed
Death
In that order

[empty thicket]

because would mean Dms can use Ext like a more light status

[knotty vine]

if you reach 6 levels of exhastion you just die

[scenic zinc]

Which is much cooler imo

[empty thicket]

than being a hard status effect

[umbral girder]

Tbh the -2 to d20 checks is way, waaaay more effective than disadvantage

Bounded accuracy and all that.

[hot reef]

You die from whatever you get exhaustion levels from
Starvation, dehydration, drowning, cancer, etc

[arctic roost]

-10 is where it becomes really bad imo

[empty thicket]

it still make some spells that dont need D20 rolls more op

[lavish flame]

Yup, its something that ppl can be okay with getting many levels of now without being absolutely debilitated by their second level.

[umbral girder]

And the half speed one got pretty redundant with the 0 speed one.

[lavish flame]

My party does a lot more Forced Marches now

Also it is much easier to remember what the levels of Exhaust actually do

[umbral girder]

Honestly old one was kinda a mess to deal with and was only ok in effectiveness

[paper portal]

as long as they aren't west marching

[scenic zinc]

Why remember when you can just reference

[empty thicket]

Now imagine this, Wish: "I wish to cast 3 concentration spells without breaking but each turn i take 1 exhaustion level"
I would like to see players doing that kind of Risk//Benefit

[umbral girder]

But yeah you can very easily just know what the new one actually does than spend session time page flipping

[lavish flame]

only sometimes!

[empty thicket]

wait, question

[scenic zinc]

Streamlining a ruleset too much results in a boring ruleset

[empty thicket]

players can apply Exh to monsters//humanoids?

[woven flint]

EXH?

[hot reef]

2024 Counterspell ):

[knotty vine]

2024 counterspell is the most nerfed spell of all time

[umbral girder]

2024 Counterspell is good on casters that aren’t boss monster pretty much

[empty thicket]

exhaustion

[woven flint]

Ohhh. Exhaustion?

Yes, though some things are immune

[scenic zinc]

Just make scrolls of counterspell to get back the ability to counterspell your spells being counterspelled

[lavish flame]

thats basically my only issue with 2014 Exhaustion. The easiest place to find it is on the DM screen, with all the other conditions. During actual play, I can just glance downward. When I'm chatting about D&D tho, I don't want to have to research the various levels and figure out how many effects are on a PC at once

[hot reef]

It’s still about as strong for PCs since no monsters use spell slots so they don’t get it back

[umbral girder]

I had an Archmage just not get to cast spells in my 2024 games because they got a +1 Con

[empty thicket]

2024 counterspell isnt a "legendary action" anymore

[umbral girder]

Plus new Counterspell only saves Spell slots which monsters don’t have

[knotty vine]

they do have LR

[empty thicket]

The best counterspell, cut their head off

[umbral girder]

Actually it was a very cool moment where I had Acererak cast Power Word Kill and it took 3 counterspells to stop him.

[empty thicket]

or glitter//fog cloud

[lavish flame]

Yeah in my experience, 2024 Counterspell basically functions as often as 2014 Counterspell

[empty thicket]

IF isnt counterspell, what else against casters?

Silence and something else?

[lavish flame]

Obviously you are doing different stuff, but they got some solid math going on

[knotty vine]

if counter spell is your power then what are you without it

[hot reef]

Just summon Sul Khatesh ez

[knotty vine]

real

[lavish flame]

I love Eberron's Overlords so freakin much

[knotty vine]

theres only 2

[scenic zinc]

The issue with '24 cs is the loss of being able to cs your own spells being cs'd unless you have a scroll of cs, but a monster can do it.

It's moreso an issue with the change they made to the number of spells in a turn rule that I have.

[umbral girder]

Turns out +12 con saves and legendary resistance was not enough for resisting counter spell

[lavish flame]

there's a ton, there's only 2 stat blocks in 5e

I think Chronicles of Eberron or Exploring Eberron had a few more Overlord statblocks

[knotty vine]

the other one was a smite loving weirdo

[hot reef]

2 statted in official 5e
There are many more, one’s statted in Frontiers of Eberron

[lavish flame]

it was Frontiers?!

[hot reef]

I believe another two of them can be statted using the avatars of Tiamat and Lolth too

[knotty vine]

Rak Tulkhesh was the one i was thinking of

[lavish flame]

The Daughter of Khyber my beloved

I just like Tiamat idk

[jolly canyon]

so hope i get to use him as a final boss. his stat block is so cool. wouldnt be surprised if my campaign doesnt go that far tho unfort

[knotty vine]

him?

[jolly canyon]

sorry the other one

not the mage one but the monster looking one

[knotty vine]

Rak Tulkhesh]

[jolly canyon]

although the mage overlord one would be sick too

[knotty vine]

i love that one of his abilitys is just everyone fight eachother

Provoke Rage (Costs 3 Actions). Each creature within 60 feet of Rak Tulkhesh must succeed on a DC 24 Wisdom saving throw or use its reaction to make a melee weapon attack against a random creature within reach. If no creatures are within reach, it makes a ranged weapon attack against a random creature within range, throwing its weapon if necessary. This attack is made with advantage and gains a +4 bonus to the damage roll.

[jolly canyon]

if my campaign doesnt go that far i'll do a lvl 20 one shot just so i can run them

[paper portal]

typical martial nerf amirite

[severe rampart]

... don't

[jolly canyon]

dont tell me how to live my life!

[severe rampart]

level 20 is uh... very different

[knotty vine]

the barbarian staring at the wizard:

[severe rampart]

Alright, but you're digging your own grave

[jolly canyon]

ill be digging it whith my hands too

[paper portal]

this is why you should run rak tulkhesh as a monster in a level 10 oneshot instead

[knotty vine]

rak would most likely kill a level 10 party?

[paper portal]

shhhh

[severe rampart]

So my knome monk with 100 walking speed is gonna make 7 unarmed strikes attack with a +16 attack roll against the BBEG, does a 36 hit

[knotty vine]

me starting at deadly crit and banishing smite

[paper portal]

yeah honestly as with most things it depends on the party

[knotty vine]

he can also cast spirt guardians at will

[severe rampart]

never heard of that

[paper portal]

so can a level 10 cleric if you have really really short adventuring days

[severe rampart]

imagine an enemy with very low hp, but massively high AC (with a shield spell in their back pocket) casting spirit guardians and dodging every turn of combat

[jolly canyon]

well my friend's will forget they even have weapon masteries and wont remeber shield is cast on reaction. your move

[knotty vine]

Deadly Critical. Rak Tulkhesh scores a critical hit on a roll of 19 or 20 and rolls the damage dice three times, instead of twice.

he has 4 attacks btw

[umbral girder]

Fireball (if 2024 the Graze Mastery)

Half damage in AOE spells help

[knotty vine]

ruk also has change shape being able to turn into a scion of whatever

[severe rampart]

Counterspell

[umbral girder]

Easy Magic missile bait

No more shield.

[paper portal]

yea i mean obviously it isnt intended for a level 10 party lol

but if theyre good enough they could win for sure

[severe rampart]

Ah, you got me

[knotty vine]

blinds the entire party and does 4d10 lightning damage

[jolly canyon]

what party level would make sense to fight those two overlords

[knotty vine]

a level 10 party is not being an overlord