dnd-discussion

[severe rampart]

And Zeus set them free from Cronus' stomach, so

[stiff rock]

Wasn't Zeus the one who freed the rest of the cthonic gods from chronos' stomach?

Jinx lol

[tall forge]

Not cthonic, specifically

[severe rampart]

I echo'ed your words

[tall forge]

Cthonic gods are gods of the underworld

[stiff rock]

The gods that weren't directly born from zeus*

[gaunt roost]

I mean he suceeded for about a hundred years before Ao had to go "yo dude wtf you cant just do that, free will means they get to sell their souls" and khel is still mad about that

[tall forge]

Cthonic gods would include hades, thanatos, persephone, and USED to include poseidon

But thats because poseidon used to be the god of the underworld, as well as king of the gods

Before the several rewrites

[undone rain]

Guess he remains true to his cause then

Hes allied with lathander right

[gaunt roost]

Zeus saved his siblings, he was thr youngest one. The big ones like hades, Poseidon, hera, Demeter and hestia

[tall forge]

Debatably Dionysus and hermes were/are cthonic gods

[undone rain]

Tbh my fav god tho has to be ilmater

[tall forge]

But again, the myth changed a lot

Somehow zues became super important

Persephone was too niche that her original story got forgotten

(Mostly because the secret persephone cults were way too good at being secret)

[flint ledge]

I imagine Ao just takes really long to respond to things due to his near infinite life

[gaunt roost]

Isnt cthonic explicitly about underworld gods? Dio I get (he might be hades son) but Hermes... i dont think he counts just because he helped thanatos deliver souls? Delivering was kind of his deal, but not an exclusive one

[tall forge]

Its a yesnt, myths are set in stone now but they were stories that shifted and changed

There are plenty of stories where hermes is the child of Persephone

And persephone was also someone who used to be ruler of the underworld

Also fun about dionysus, he was only added to Greek pantheon to stop the death cults

Probably

[tall forge]

-# my b i misremembered, not a child of Persephone, but hes def a cthonic god

[tall forge]

Also important to say, dionysus is specifically possibly a child of Persephone, and is older than hades

[glass granite]

Zagreus being related to Dionysus, correct?

[marble lion]

he breaks for thee

[undone rain]

Indeed he does

[tall forge]

Yep, probably ties to the government trying to make a story that stuck with the death cults so they would stop death culting

[marble lion]

my ilmater cleric was one of my best characters

i wish i had gotten to play him more than twice

[tall forge]

Dionysus is a really, really old god

Possible the oldest greek god

[marble lion]

RP on point, spell descriptions, verbal components in latin, cool fashion in my style

[undone rain]

Feels cool to play a character that serves a deity ngl and im not even religious lol

[marble lion]

i love larping as religious in media. its strong themes. its so successful for a reason

[undone rain]

Exactly and with all the gods to pick from you have alot of flavor

[marble lion]

i think all the characters ive made in a long time now have been very faithful

my first characters all werent though

[undone rain]

My paladin of kelemvor took the oath of vengeance as they hate the undead

[marble lion]

i just never quite got the gist of elven gods

[tall forge]

Oldest possible greek gods being

Demeter, dionysus, persephone, and poseidon

Anyways done ranting

[minor cargo]

I went back to Twitter and looked at the D&D tweet about the community survey and... the comments are really, really awful.

It's so jarring to be part of this community where people generally are pretty chill (we typically "fight" about alignment/morality, martials/casters, and fudging dice) - but that comment section is all about "D&D is too woke today" (plus much, much worse stuff).

It's...- yeah, it's just jarring to see stuff like that.

Edit: Here's the actual Twitter link. But I'm not saying you should look at it. 😬

[severe rampart]

Persephone and Demeter being there is weird, since they're mother-daughter

[tall forge]

They were most likely one god

And got split into their cthonic and oaranic parts

[severe rampart]

Wasn't Persephone being with Hades the reason why Demeter weeps and winter falls?

[tall forge]

It was shifted, but the history of persephone dates back way farther than hades even existed as a concept

[severe rampart]

ah, I did not know that

[tall forge]

However she was considered a god of death, the scary kind where even mentioning her name gets you killed

So that story died out real quick lmao

[karmic heath]

Does the amulet of health affect hp? Or just rolls associated with Con?
2024 5e rules

[tall forge]

If affects con

Which, by the rules of con, effects health

[flint ledge]

Read exactly 2 tweets and was reminded why I don't open Twitter

[marble lion]

Thats because you get banned for fighting over the other stuff, or youd see more of it here too

[minor cargo]

It affects your HP indirectly. ✌️

So what you do is figure out what your new con modifier is and check how that affects your HP. For example, if your con was 14 (+2), bumping it to 19 gives you +4.

So that means for each level, you'd theoretically have +2 HP.

It's a little tough to explain but does that make sense? If not, I can try again.

[tall forge]

I would look but i dont want to make a twitter account

[karmic heath]

Okay so let’s say I get it at lvl11 and my con was at 14….i can like add hp to my character immediately correct?

[tall forge]

Once you attune, yes

[minor cargo]

It does come up here, and no, people don't get banned for that. For example, a person can just walk in and say "I don't like that the internet says Orcs are an allegory for [minority]."

What they do get banned for is saying slurs or saying actual minority groups don't/shouldn't exist.

[flint ledge]

I don't even see how exactly dnd is supposedly "woke" or how DEI is remotely dnd involved 😭

[karmic heath]

Lovely okay
Thank you both

[balmy cairn]

Anyone got any cool suggestions for a high consistent dpr build for level 6?

[tall forge]

Dnd has slowly shifted left over the years community wise

[severe rampart]

Just read that thread, oh wow

[tall forge]

Just how it goes when you add inclusivity

Some people think thats woke and DEI

[flint ledge]

Yes community wise but it's not like the writers have a quota or something for writing like certain characters that have certain looks or smth

[short onyx]

I have question, I stopped playing back in 2022/2023 (i dont really remember). I'm planning to join a T3 game using my old level 16 bladesinger and was curious if I can still use him since I know there was some changes back in 2024. This is a paid in person event so reaching out to the organizers/GMs to ask questions arent that easy.. My character sheet is saved in dndbeyond and i noticed most of the spells have legacy tagged to them. So far I updated them with the versions without the legacy tags.. is that enough?

[woven flint]

That's up to the dm

[minor cargo]

I usually see "woke" and "DEI" used as general "I don't like this thing" fillers. So for example, in the PHB there are two dwarves (probably men) that are probably married. Someone might call that "woke" or "DEI".

[woven flint]

Also, good morning, everyone

[halcyon bison]

Goood morningg

[tall forge]

Community reflects what WOTC will make, because they try to make something that appeals to the community

Doesnt mean theyre specifically trying to make woke or DEI content, theyre just trying to make things that sell

[severe rampart]

Really weird that folk are hateful towards love, can't imagine what it must feel like to have all of that hatred within you that you explode at the joy of others

but most of them don't know what they're talking about, it's just buzzword after buzzword

[tall forge]

🤷 just how people are

I try not to care too much

[minor cargo]

I also try not to care. But the thing is... They are still part of the community. And what probably is happening is WOTC is getting a bunch of feedback - and there's probably a minority of data they just collected that has a lot of that kind of vitriol.

Does that mean the game will swing back and try to cater towards this audience? I don't know. It could.

[halcyon bison]

I’m too sleepy to talk about this let’s talk about something else

[minor cargo]

Too sleepy? Get woke. /lh /jk

[tall forge]

Also there was the whole christain “dnd is the devil” scare

[short onyx]

hmmmmm gotcha.. thanks.. it's been a while since i played AL games so I dont know what's current anymore..

[tall forge]

So. Pretty hard to sell to a right leaning audience

[tall forge]

Eats a rat so youre now twodozen-1rats

Awake now?

[halcyon bison]

NO
Why does this always happen??????? In every server

[severe rampart]

or... a baker's dozen + 10

[tall forge]

Bc its always me. With 50 alternative accounts

[halcyon bison]

This is not very kind ;w;

[tall forge]

If im so unkind, why didnt i eat all your rats?

The reason is because i want your rats to be seperated. I want them to feel that loss.

[woven flint]

My Bugbear Ranger has a pet rat
The rats name is Slank

[sleek cloud]

I give you a rat

[light minnow]

Hello new here

[tall forge]

Losing all your rats is a community destroyed. Losing just one is a community hurt….

And as a dm, i thrive off of mass pain

[marble lion]

Gotta take half, so everyone hurts

[halcyon bison]

Please leave my rats alone

[tall forge]

Ill be back for another rat one day

This is already my second rat stolen

[marble lion]

Then again eating only a few may lead to less solidarity among survivors

That way the pain is spread less evenly

[sleek cloud]

I cast greater ratstoration

[marble lion]

So some will truly suffer while others wont support the-
Oh thank you i feel so good now

[severe rampart]

... congratulations, you killed that one hag who's weakness is the worst pun in the multiverse

[sleek cloud]

My sole purpose in life

[tall forge]

Sorry but the rats dead

You need ratvivify

[sleek cloud]

Or ratsurrection

[severe rampart]

Stop it, I'm actively being dealt 1d4 psychic damage here!

[woven flint]

Reincarat

[marble lion]

Wouldnt it be rodiant damage?

[sleek cloud]

NOW we’re talkin

[tall forge]

Oh no, echos dying

And everyones doing rat puns

What a rat-tastrophe

[severe rampart]

... would be a Catastrophe if those- DAMN IT PEACH

[halcyon bison]

Why don’t we raturn to normal

[marble lion]

Yeah lets be rational

[tall forge]

Rodent we raturn to normal

[sly crest]

…this is certainly something to walk in on Thursday morning

[sleek cloud]

That’s a mice idea

[tall forge]

Everyone

[severe rampart]

The rat puns shall be e-rat-icated...

[tall forge]

Kill stardude.

[sly crest]

Gladly.

[tall forge]

Dont bring a filthy mouse into the rat-dom

[severe rampart]

You guys have a lot of gnawledge about this

[halcyon bison]

Honestly I think puns are underRATed

[glossy otter]

why are you making me think of either the great mouse detective or that other kids movie with the big eared mouse

[sly crest]

Idk, some of these puns have been pretty cheesy

[severe rampart]

This is a mousterpiece

[minor cargo]

Cheesy puns are a gouda thing.

[sleek cloud]

You’re all lucky I’ve gotta go into work now. I’ll be back with the regularly scheduled programming

[severe rampart]

I hope your coding language isn't python

[sly crest]

Asiago-t a positive reception!

[marble lion]

i may have found a player to finally play again

my australian connection apparently stays up to 6am due to security work

that means we can actually play

[loud tendon]

Cheese puns are unbrielievable

[marble lion]

oh no the Mozz ar getting involved

[humble cairn]

You cheddar believe it.

[minor cargo]

So I have an Alhoon coming up. In my games, Mind Flayers have names like Mmqwrmillx or Dnungdgnon. Basically names that although could be pronounced, are awkward and "alien".

How do you feel about this name for the Alhoon? Could it be worse?

Aunuunonaen

[marble lion]

that just reads like an old language from arctic regions

[loud tendon]

I like that one.. the others remind me of Mr. Mxyzptlk abit

[severe rampart]

say that backwards real quick

[marble lion]

mzispitulk

[halcyon bison]

Add an -un at the end
Aunuunonaenun
Makes it a little bit too uncomfortably long to say

[minor cargo]

Nice, yeah. I like that a lot!

[marble lion]

ownewnonahenoon

[severe rampart]

Reminds me of when my DM took the native languages of each player, swapped them around, then used a tongue twister from that language to make an "Infernal Scroll" that we have to pronounce correctly

[marble lion]

i find it quite pleasant to say

[severe rampart]

I have the dutch scroll...

[humble cairn]

Maybe put a few more consonants next to each other. "nnmlrm" all next to each other makes no sense in English.

[minor cargo]

Aumnuunonænuln.

Yeah, I think I got it. That last little hard vowel into a "nuln" sound is a tough one for English speakers haha.

[feral fulcrum]

Sounds vaguelly egyptian.

[severe rampart]

Asians represent

[sly crest]

It does!

[severe rampart]

can read that pretty well

[halcyon bison]

Is this mind flayer a friend or a foe

[wispy vector]

Give him a kiss on the cheek and see how he reacts.

[minor cargo]

(We can take this to another channel if it starts talking up too much space in general.)

Foe, but I have a whole side-plot with some Mind Flayer refugees. They've escaped the control of an Elder Brain and have become "vegans". That is, they don't eat sapient brains - just the brains of deer and other animals. This, of course, is causing them to starve to death.

So the party has this really weird side-plot where they miiiiiight want to help them? But they're very unsure.

[halcyon bison]

If I was there I would help them
Mostly cause it sounds funny

[gaunt roost]

Persephone. Daughter of Demeter. Younger sister to hades. And her son is older than hades?

[feral fulcrum]

It's all wiblyy woblly gody wody, don't think about it too hard.

[severe rampart]

Hear me out... using the clone spell, they can eat as many clone brains as they want

[halcyon bison]

Mmm yes that’s very ethical

[severe rampart]

I think this is the plot to a Rick and Morty episodr

[halcyon bison]

I’m not sure if brains with no thoughts are nutritious enough for the mind flayer

[severe rampart]

Modify Memory(?)

[halcyon bison]

You can only create 10 minutes of memory with that

[severe rampart]

Mmm appetizer

[undone rain]

I once played a mindflayer

[empty thicket]

Upload the whole speedrun version of the whole MCU in that brain and give it to the mindflayer
It will be an equivalent of a deep fried meal for him

[undone rain]

Holy shit its genius

[halcyon bison]

Now this poses the question: can you run doom on a clone

[empty thicket]

we are kinda doing it without magic, Add magic and you will.
Now there is another problem....everyone want more of it.

[undone rain]

If the og of the clones played doom then you can take out the memory from the clones brain and bam

[feral fulcrum]

You can run doom on a sufficiently large number of Magic Mouths

But I don't reccomend it.

[undone rain]

Can one run doom on a cauldron

[empty thicket]

a cauldron can do a perfect window to see the party moving, i dont think it would have problems with some 90s graphics

[viral kraken]

would you not need Programmed Illusion or something for the output to the user? or how do the magic mouths render it?

[empty thicket]

same with a crystall ball

[undone rain]

I wonder, can you stack divine favor with hunters mark (oath of vengeanve) with a smite?

[empty thicket]

or a magic mirror

[undone rain]

Excellent

I can just imagine wizards playing doom on their crystal balls in their towers

[woven flint]

Yes.
So long as it's not a concentration smite

[undone rain]

Oh boy im gonna hit like a truck

If i was an aasimar i could stack more damage too with my racial feature buuut ive already played one lol

[woven flint]

More damage isn't always the best answer anyway, sometimes it's good to just have utility

[undone rain]

But damage fun

[empty thicket]

In theory, yes.
Being a Vengance 2024 paladin
Divine favor and attack
HM and attack
Attack with Smite
would be the sequence

[feral fulcrum]

If you want visuals, yes, but I was more thinking the 'code' that actually runs it.

[undone rain]

Oh boy

[viral kraken]

ah. i was actually thinking since i asked that, no reason why you cant make a huge array of mouths, with arrays of red mouthed, green mouthed, and blue mouthed mouths right next to each other and use them like a monitor

looking at them from a distance

[empty thicket]

3 turns and 1 unity must survive you for the third attack doing it with all on, or after killing in the first sequence you can in the next HM the objective and then do all that damage.
The problem is, if you do HM first the chances of killing it are higher and if you kill it you would need to use your whole next bonus action for move it and yara yara yara

[undone rain]

Gotcha

[empty thicket]

1d4+1d6+1d8+weapon+profic+any other buff

[halcyon bison]

I really wish they would stop shoving demons in my orbs and calling it “arcane intelligence”

[empty thicket]

All that for doing the damage that a Guiding bolt lvl 2 could do

[viral kraken]

ya if i want arcane intelligence i will seek out a demon, i don't want it in everything

[empty thicket]

the problem is the dark wizards trying to put curses in your orbs and trying to steal your scrolls//components//gp

[viral kraken]

ya the demon is just doing it to steal your unique spells, and they are just giving you other spells they stole in the first place

[halcyon bison]

Yeah but there’s curses in everything these days, you can’t even use the weave without them

[undone rain]

Well frontliners are made to be more tanky against damage while the squishier classes hit harder but a feather could drop em to 4 hp

[empty thicket]

or sell your spells and recipes to anything

[small heath]

Hi chat

[viral kraken]

ya my character in the campaign i get to play in has to be careful not to sneeze to hard or wind up dead

[empty thicket]

Indeed, martials in their biggest part tend to be more tanky than most casters
hybrids are weird, some are more, some not so much

[undone rain]

Lol gets hit by a piece of paper and ends up with a broken arm

[empty thicket]

the problem arrive when the caster can literally shatter a mountain in half when the fighter 25str cant even pick a log and throw it like ballista

[undone rain]

Yeah, thats why many of em get those boosts in damage so they actually yk do smth

Thats why i usually pick up divine favor its a good spell

[viral kraken]

oh that reminds me, were cabers ever weapons? or is the caber toss just for fun?

[empty thicket]

caber?

[halcyon bison]

Well the fighter can do that if the dm lets you

[undone rain]

Picked up booming blade for my future paladin (playin a high elf)

[halcyon bison]

Might need the one subclass that makes you giant though

[viral kraken]

ya, today in lumberjack sports they will basically toss a whole tree end over end. like a telephone pole. i was wondering if it used to be a anti-formation weapon

[empty thicket]

yeah, it work with hybrids and ifyou have an ally to buff you or some way to.
Still im starting to see it like this
Casters scaling = Spells
Martials Scaling = Equipment
Hybrid scaling = Anything
Monk scaling = Yes.

[undone rain]

Yeah i see it

[undone rain]

Can always play a goliath

[halcyon bison]

Actually I like this idea of making maritals comically powerful

Casters already are after all

[woven flint]

Martials are already powerful too

[empty thicket]

i wish they would, more if the fighter is like +20str.

[woven flint]

Especially Now-A-Days

[halcyon bison]

Yeah but can they throw tree trunks at people?

[empty thicket]

she might mean in things like, literally throwing a log towards an enemy or other many stuff

[halcyon bison]

I’m a she :>

[empty thicket]

An example i would settle for such things would be Thorkell from vinland saga

He could be what i have in mind, a 20str. Throwing literally logs and spears that could pierce like a Ballista

[paper portal]

hello a she :> im dad

[undone rain]

Oh shit your on hrt congrats

[halcyon bison]

Yes :D

[empty thicket]

Make the concept of high Martial Stats be something. More Str that is...for only 2 skills and weapon damage only...

[undone rain]

Well congrats hope everything works as it should (im not informed too much on it i just want to be positive lol)

[halcyon bison]

Martials should be able to reach peak human condition

[empty thicket]

Going a Dext fighter would be more useful ngl....considerating that Dext is such goated stat

[trim hedge]

yo guys, If I never played and I dont know almost anything about DnD does it even make sense for me to create session with my friends with me as DM? or will it be total failure. Ofc I would look before making it a bit into combat and other basics

[feral fulcrum]

It's generally wise to be at least vaguelly familliar with how the system works before running it.

[undone rain]

We all start somewhere friend. I got a friend whos first experience in dnd was being a dm and shes doing a great job. Just do some research first and your set

[trim hedge]

is there any good youtube video that explain basics very well? I was looking today for something like this but I couldnt find anything good

[feral fulcrum]

I'd suggest looking over the free rules.

[empty thicket]

i just think they should be more competent.
Not at the same level than casters because that is a common argument.
But if i see a lvl 10 fighter or barbarian with around 20str or 18. Do such things shouldnt be "weird"

More considerating that either STR is a not so good stat and Distance combat is... more down than close combat

[woven flint]

Well, the problem is martials DO reach peak human conditions, but martials are just in a more "grounded" fantasy than casters.

[trim hedge]

Like all of them? from herehttps://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024
😭

[harsh hinge]

You don't need to know every class and species feature, nor do you need to know every spell.

[halcyon bison]

They should stop being grounded I think

[undone rain]

If a member says "i cast chromatic orb" and you dont know what it does then simply ask em to read the spell description

[woven flint]

Personally?
I'm fine with it
As MOST Martial enemies are also pretty grounded.

[empty thicket]

yeah, its kinda my problem.
Still pretty fantazy that a creature can heal from being slayed, crushed, etc. etc. and more if we considerate the amount of PASSIVE Healing they get.
But....A bit more of that "fantazy" would be nice

More in a Raw no magic character (Raw meaning he doesnt have any magic on it)

[trim hedge]

okay, so my friends should look over characters on the website too? like the one they play?

[woven flint]

The fantasy of martials in D&D isn't THROWING BUILDINGS
It's indomitable will against an adversarial world.

[undone rain]

Id recommend it yes

[knotty pasture]

But throwing a chair at someone in a bar is funny

[halcyon bison]

But throwing the bar is funnier

[knotty pasture]

There's a gnome sized bar on that chair

[empty thicket]

Didnt said throwing a building
Throwing an idk, a spear really strong should be enough or a log of around 3cm of diameter and 1.50mts of lenght

[woven flint]

I think we do also tend to forget that in many games Martials are killing Otherworldly entities like.. ALL the time as a "Normal" Guy

[undone rain]

Dndbeyonds not...great but it works

Your best bet unless you want to go pen and paper

[empty thicket]

not denying it, just wanting to be a bit more Funny//absurd about it (And kinda trashing a bit STR)

[woven flint]

I was pretty much specifying that martials don't need to be able to do all of that because they are BEYOND average people anyway

If you want Martials that do crazy shit, Pathfinder is a good place to look if you want inspiration for what your martials could do, though

[trim hedge]

will I be fine after reading
Players:
Playing the Game
Character Creation
Dungeon Masters:
The Basics
DM’s Toolbox
Magic Items
Monsters:
Introduction: How to Use a Monster
And after it just getting some random not that strong monsters from the monster thingy and doing first short session?
and every time I would just glance to rules glossary as we go?

[woven flint]

Hell, The Gaurdian class has a feature where they can knock everyone in a certain distance around them Prone just by stomping

[undone rain]

Yeah that seems good for me

[trim hedge]

great

[undone rain]

Good luck on dming

[trim hedge]

Im gonna dig it in and see how it works

[trim hedge]

thanks, Im gonna need it

[undone rain]

Np

[woven flint]

The Gaurdian class from Pathfinder also has one of my favorite class feats EVER

it's called
NEVER!:
"The idea that you would hurt your companions, even when you've lost your reason, is unthinkable. Each time you would attack an ally due to being confused or controlled, you can attempt another saving throw against the effect that caused you to be confused or controlled with a +4 circumstance bonus to the save. If you succeed, you don't make the attack, though you still expend any actions it would have taken."

I love them

[empty thicket]

yeah something like this but in DnD.
Acts like this that seems giga wild but work like an example of those that are Strong ARE strong

[woven flint]

Just big lovable tanky bois
They're my favorite thing ever

[empty thicket]

Stomp the ground, go through walls with minimal damage, throw stuff really hard and fast, etc.etc.

Things that might seems absurd but it work like examples

[woven flint]

There's a Barbarian feat called
Oversized Throw and from flavor text alone I can tell it'd be something people like

"With a great heave, you seize a piece of your surroundings, such as a boulder, log, table, wagon, or chunk of earth, and hurl it at your foes."

I really hope If they Rework Giant Barbarian they allow you to throw more things in 5e

[empty thicket]

its already weird in a lot of things

more if there is not a proper rule of things
Isnt the same a 20str Giant than a 20Str Dwarf
Size matter

[feral fulcrum]

You can already throw basically everything you can physically pick up though? Improvised Weapons still count for their abilities.

[woven flint]

That's not what I really mean.

Like, I hope they give them more special stuff for throwing things

[feral fulcrum]

If you ask me, them being able to throw anything, buffed by Elemental Cleaver, in addition to being able to throw creatures, is already plenty.

They don't need a bonus action to yeet improvised weapons.

[wild idol]

I can... Chat now? I couldn't chat before. What happened? (I'm new here)

[woven flint]

Thats nice.
I still want more emphasis on throwing stuff 👍

[wild idol]

Can someone guild me here? I am not very social and shy

[feral fulcrum]

Given that litteraly every feat has emphasis on throwing things, I don't see how it can get more without losing the rest of it :V

[woven flint]

(Mostly better range increments at later levels for starters)

[flint ledge]

Hey hey, #dnd-newcomers might be the place for you depending on what you need

[empty thicket]

could told one of the many nono words, considerate talking in the most soft possible way and evade risky words.
if any question related to DnD there is Newcomers channel
If searching any campaign there is Looking for players channel where people posts their offers//Requirements and otehr stuff

[halcyon bison]

Throwing weapons is actually a pretty good idea because you can utilize all of fighter’s weapon masteries at once :3

[woven flint]

Not to be that guy
But when you do ":V" it seems incredibly condescending.

[empty thicket]

If fighter could throw any kind of weapon i would be happier too

[halcyon bison]

We’ll call it the juggler subclass

[empty thicket]

like he can do the change of mastery at the attacks, being able to throw either a Glaive, Axe or sword would be too

[wild idol]

Thanks, 🙏

[woven flint]

Cleave apparently has a really odd interaction with throwing with giant barbarian
I remember it just... not working when I played a giant Barb with 2024 rules for a oneshot

[empty thicket]

Its just another thing i dont see often, no fighter would pick "throwing weapon fighting style" because its not so worth.
You are either carrying many spears//javelins but not being able to buy a Bow//longbow//ballista.
You cant throw lets say 3 spears in one turn or the same number equal to your attacks

Said it before, "Range" martial attacks arent... so good

[woven flint]

Or maybe it was misinterpretation on the dms behalf, I dunno
Something about the specifics of Cleaves wording

[halcyon bison]

why can't you throw 3 spears

[empty thicket]

equip // unequip constantly, unless house rule that equipping weapons are a free action

[halcyon bison]

You can draw weapons as part of throwing them

[feral fulcrum]

In 2014 at least you only have one free object interaction. Of which drawing a weapon is.

[woven flint]

You can change weapons as part of the attack action with 2024 rules

[halcyon bison]

i duno what its like in 2014 but I was talking about weapon masteries and it applies there

[empty thicket]

you say i could with 3 spears?

tho, who carry 3 spears...nvm, 3 daggers

[halcyon bison]

Yes :3
"If a weapon has the Thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack, and you can draw that weapon as part of the attack."

[feral fulcrum]

Many soldiers historically carried a fairly decent number of spears for throwing.

[empty thicket]

epic, still will need to see it how to make it work

[halcyon bison]

If you're a fighter, carry weapons with a variety of masteries

[empty thicket]

I wanted to do a Rogue that throw daggers and apply poison but like most could guess
Poison isnt too nice and throwing daggers are less effective than using a hand crossbow

[feral fulcrum]

Poison's never been good in 5E

[humble cairn]

Throwing weapons works better in 2024. Many more builds are throwing weapon friendly.

[feral fulcrum]

Since poison immunity is almost a free spot on the bingo card

[empty thicket]

a greataxe
a dagger
a H.Crossbow

[flint ledge]

Like 90% of mid and late get enemies are either resistant or entirely immune to it

[empty thicket]

Its my curren build, dagger is the last resource
Great axe for close combat and H.Crossbow for range (it have repeating shoot from my artificer)

[humble cairn]

Paladin with throwing weapons was fun.

[empty thicket]

"i call this, the Longinus Spear!"
Pierce 5 zombies like an uncanny brochette

[halcyon bison]

Dagger, handaxe, spear, trident, and Javelin gets you five different properties to use
And is most viable with throwing due to the drawing as part of attack thing

[humble cairn]

On my Paladin it was Light Hammers and Trident.

[empty thicket]

dont have throwing yet, i might get something like Defense for second fighting style or something else

Have GWF and had before Dueling

[halcyon bison]

but its funnier to just throw a bunch of random stuff

[humble cairn]

Nice thing about thrown weapons build, you can use Nick/dual wielder and wield a shield.

[undone rain]

Paladins weaknesses really are range ngl, thats why i picked up the fighting style that gives you 2 cleric cantrips

Picked up sacred flame and resistance

[humble cairn]

Have you tried using thrown weapons instead? you can't Smite on a cantrip, but you can on a thrown weapon, at least in 2024.

[empty thicket]

Good they have one.
They have Heavy armor, spells, fighting styles, good features.

The only problem sometimes is mobility and range attacks.

[humble cairn]

Plus there's Radiant Strikes. Extra radiant damage on weapon attacks.

[humble cairn]

Find Steed!

[undone rain]

I would but i would probably forget to pick up my javelins lol

[empty thicket]

And lets not forget Radiant is one of the less resisted//Immune damage

[humble cairn]

Just buy more, they're cheap.

[undone rain]

My fav spell aside from smite!

[empty thicket]

Last time it was struck by a lightning, other time an ogre crushed it. He was hit with a Ballista, not a bolt, A WHOLE BALLISTa.
Poor creature live happier in the celestial world.
Each time he came back is...its look is more and more...empty...

[undone rain]

Imagine like 2014 paladin talks to 2024 paladin about what they got and its just "horse"

I mean im not complaining its useful

[humble cairn]

I loved playing my 2024 Paladin.

[undone rain]

Peak

[empty thicket]

Help to carry the people, resources and finally its peak tool for deceive

[undone rain]

Horsey tiiime

[empty thicket]

Can put a sending stone in its mouth, make it knock the enemies lair and they wont understand why there is a horse knocking the door and then using the sending stone you speak for him

[undone rain]

Legit saved our party with it

[empty thicket]

and with the act hte guards wont know what to do and the party can sneak inside of the lair

Can add a Familiar to the Recipe and do teh same with a sending stone hidden on them

[woven flint]

You're assuming that sending stones work like Walkie Talkies
They don't

[empty thicket]

Sad.

[woven flint]

They're stones that use the sending spell
The reciprocate of the message is the person or creature holding the other stone

[empty thicket]

What a shame, welp, 500 pebbles that work like sending stones

[halcyon bison]

sending stone rates may apply

[lost ice]

Horse is probably the best mobility spell

[turbid vessel]

The best mobility spell is Fade to Black

[lost ice]

I can see someone playing paladin just for find steed

[lost ice]

Can't fade to black mid combat

[turbid vessel]

I remember people really hating when the 2024 paladin UA introduced find steed and I sat in the background like "I think it's kinda cool...

[fossil hollow]

its called being afk/aft

[humble cairn]

Find Steed is great!

[lost ice]

People didn't like it because it implies a horse-rider fantasy

[fossil hollow]

one feature gets introduced: ohmygod, it changes the class as a whole

[umbral girder]

Also a free smite without a spell slot and weapon masteries

[lost ice]

Even I wouldn't like it much but 120ft speed / 60ft+disengage won me over

[fossil hollow]

120 ft?

[umbral girder]

Dash I’m assuming

[turbid vessel]

In my experience DnD fans really hate being guided in character fantasy, they wanna build it from the ground up
Meanwhile PbtA fans be like "wait who am I how am I supposed to know who I am if you don't tell me"

[umbral girder]

Horses are fast usually

[lost ice]

It can dash every turn

[fossil hollow]

wait, honse speed is 60 ft? i thought it was 40 or something

[flint ledge]

Centaur is 40, at least for the PC species

[umbral girder]

Find Steed has 60ft movement

[turbid vessel]

Petah, the honse is 60ft away

[fossil hollow]

my life is a lie

[lost ice]

Otherworldly Steed is 60 walking and flying

[serene jolt]

I think most of the hate was directed towards smite becoming a spell.

[fossil hollow]

(flying only when upcasted to 4th, that much i remember)

[serene jolt]

And honestly I can see why people were upset about that.

[turbid vessel]

That's a different hate than the one I'm referring to. I'm referring to the critique of the find steed feature itself
Smite is a different animal im not unpacking rn lol

[serene jolt]

The find steed is cool but also so is the Mark of Passage on any class I want to play out my horse fantasies with

[lost ice]

People to this day are so pissy about DS but ignore the fact that smite spells were awful as concentration and preparation spells

[serene jolt]

Well, any class with spells xD

[umbral girder]

Not every class gets smite

[turbid vessel]

It does feel a bit bad to have smite take a bonus action, but they also boosted a lot of the support capability of paladin in 2024 so I'm like "oh they're just shifting the ticket between damage vs support."
And I'm fine with that

[serene jolt]

This is what I'm referring to, Nealen

[fossil hollow]

at least paladins arent pumping all their slots into the first encounter

[lost ice]

I think BA is a fine price, things shouldn't just happen for free in a action resource game

[fossil hollow]

having mutiple options for a ba, which paladin didnt really have a lot of anyway, is also good imo

[uneven silo]

Hi! I’m bored and looking to draw! If anyone wants me to draw a dnd character token for them plz DM me!

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-advertisements

[rough basalt]

The cheap real horse is 40ft

That might be where you tripped up

[fossil hollow]

draft horses are the cheap one yeah?

[lean wigeon]

i love pbtas for that

[uneven silo]

Ah

[rough basalt]

Ye

[woven flint]

Peter.. the horse

[lavish flame]

stronger but slower, yeah

my players usually go from draft horses to warhorses when they want better travel

[fossil hollow]

theyre meant to pull stuff, makes sense

then riding horses if you really want that speed withouut the expensiveness of warhorses

[lavish flame]

draft horses have 18 str, but 40 speed. riding horses have 16 str and 60 speed. war horses have 18 str and 60 speed

[fossil hollow]

hmm... reminds me of trying to breed mule in minecraft

[severe rampart]

Speed Potions are the way to go, they carry over to the mule

[novel ridge]

I actually think my moral alignment is true neutral rn

[humble cairn]

Fun fact! True Neutral doesn't exist in 5E.

[novel ridge]

Cool, I think I just can be good or bad and also likes rules and not

I like rules in real life if they should be obey but hate it when it’s some game rules

[turbid vessel]

Me too 😁

"welcome to the Urchin playbook. Everyone hates you and you have no friends."
"Okey"

[flint ledge]

Well it's just neutral

Technically you could call it neutral neutral

[humble cairn]

No technically it's just Neutral.

[umbral girder]

Fun fact that’s now how alignment works

Everyone is capable of doing actions of all alignments. The alignment is just what is preferred in most situations.

[marble lion]

isnt true neutral the same thing as neutral

[woven flint]

I just realized that TWO of my characters are immune to crits
Neither of them use adamantine
One wears a special armor (Breastplate of Kamvuul Norek)
And the other is just literally built different (Juggernaut feat for warforged lol)

[vale seal]

I was looking at the fathomless warlock from Tasha's but it says the spells are added to the spell list and not always prepared, how exactly do I go about updating this to 5.5e

[woven flint]

You prepare them because the 2024 subclasses prepare all subclass spells.

They realized that it was dumb design and just gave them their subclass spells for free

[vale seal]

So 1st and 2nd level spells are put into 3rd level

[woven flint]

Yes

[vale seal]

Great

[marble lion]

subclass spells were always given for free

[umbral girder]

Biggest buff to warlock in 2024 right there

[marble lion]

no?

[umbral girder]

No in 2014 they were options you could choose. You didn’t get them for free.

[woven flint]

Genuinely
Not having to choose between your spell list and subclass spells was bigger than most think for Warlock

[marble lion]

ill have a look

[woven flint]

Though, I think that was SPECIFICALLY for Warlock, actually

[umbral girder]

In 2014 it was “these spells are added to your spell list!” While other classes had “these spells are prepared for you and don’t count against your prepared spells!”

Yeah it was a Warlock exclusive thing.

[marble lion]

oh i see

i mean if you really wanted to transfer this to 5.5, youd just have to look at how other warlock subclasses do it now

[woven flint]

Warlock has had the MOST Glow-Up out of all the classes imo

[marble lion]

but id say its pretty fair to just ignore this and get them for free

[umbral girder]

This is a homebrew I give at my tables because that’s a lot of spells being missed out

[rough basalt]

Sorcerer expanded spell lists were the same in '14

[humble cairn]

Warlock 2014 only got them as possible options to choose, they weren't automatically known.

[rough basalt]

you had to use your learned spell options for clockwork sorcery ect.

[lost ice]

automatic preparations were for classes who prepared their spells like cleric and druids
warlocks and sorcerers knew all their spells so they had to learn them manually
in 5.5 everyone prepares spells

[umbral girder]

No those gave you the spells

In fact they even let you swap the spells in 2014

It’s why Aberration and Clockwork were so insanely good on release

[humble cairn]

Err .. Monk might have a word with you about that.

[rough basalt]

Oh i always thought it was like warlock where it was "ha ha ha, you, a sorcerer thought you were gonna get more spells in MY wizards of the coasts dnd?" - old design team

[humble cairn]

For that matter ... Ranger compared to og 2014 Ranger might have a word as well.

[umbral girder]

Nah it was a Warlock only thing

[woven flint]

I absolutely LOVE being erm ackshually-d on an opinion.

[rough basalt]

Warlock was always sort of good, '24 just made them better

[umbral girder]

Bro is doing this on someone opinion

[rough basalt]

Monk, Barb, Ranger and Sorc were gripped tight and raised from perdition

[humble cairn]

Ahh, fair point. I retract.

[woven flint]

Monk has always had a strong core.

Warlock was either Eldritch Blast or Hexblade 99% of the time to feel viable

[rough basalt]

Monk had a theoretically strong core

[lost ice]

I believe monk's having the biggest upgrade is a matter of fact not opinion
numbers speak for themselves

[humble cairn]

EB was a solid build that was hailed as defining. It wasn't a bad thing.

[rough basalt]

it relied on its subclasses for the most part

[umbral girder]

Yeah now their damage dice goes up by 1 average

[rough basalt]

Shadow, Astral Self, Open Hand made up for the lower than other martials damage

[woven flint]

And I love Monks, they're my favorite class

But the fact that the highly customizable class can feel viable regardless of build is also pretty damn great

[humble cairn]

Warlock was never mechanically weak.

[woven flint]

I never said it was weak.
I said it had two defining builds like, ever

[lost ice]

sun soul's is a great subclass to rely on
cough cough

[humble cairn]

Monk could work, but it almost needed to be optimized defensively.

[rough basalt]

Me when I rely on Sun Soul (Im struggling with the anxiety to ask the dm if i can change subclasses)

[humble cairn]

So when you say glow up, you meant specifically in terms of build diversity?

[woven flint]

Yes! The customizable class doesn't feel like it has a singular defining build that makes it good anymore

[umbral girder]

I should play a Sun Soul sometime

Not on my Wednesday group tho, we got so many martially warrior type characters already

[woven flint]

Hell, I'm probably doing a Jank-Ass build with my Celestial Warlock
He's pact of the blade while realistically he should probably be Tomelock and I preform just as well as a martial without having to worry about dipping into other abilities

[umbral girder]

If my Barbarian goes in doing a Water Genasi Druid to become a massive target for the plot

You also got a great magic item for this campaign too. Very fun times.

That mace doing good work.

[woven flint]

Like the Mace of disruption 🧐

Damnit, why didn't I think of starting Karlas out with a Mace of Disruption? He still kicked ass, but that would've been fire.

[umbral girder]

Yall looked at the very big magic items to miss the cool smaller ones

[woven flint]

Well, to be fair...
I think Karkas' main weapon was a Vicious Mace lol

[umbral girder]

Interesting how both the games I DM for you Tokii are undead heavy

[woven flint]

And in both I have been an insane killer of undead 😭 💀

[umbral girder]

I should do a dragon heavy game next

[woven flint]

I wonder if our group could've put Soth on Fraud watch

[umbral girder]

Bro has an army with him at all times so good luck

Then again that lich did have a good bit too

But he didn’t have a lot of the leader powers Soth has that buff his undead a lot

[woven flint]

I'm hinging on without Rowan, we definetly wouldn't have stood a chance lol

[novel ridge]

It’s funny how we can just believe the fact that neutral doesn’t exist bc they wouldn’t bring good or bad things to the world

Damn today is exactly a month ago from my birthday

Can’t ready to get older , but I like it

[umbral girder]

An adult red dragon fully stretched out is apparently 150ft long and 100ft wide (wing span mostly for wide)

[craggy summit]

one of my players wanted to race against an adult red dragon and she actually won 😅 she was playing a pixie rogue so she used double dash and she smoked it in a race

[marble lion]

yeah trust its just 20ft

[craggy summit]

Which translates to flying at about 3mph 😅

[thorn wedge]

Blistering speed

[potent vector]

Man, I was this close to racing a Spelljammer before a campaign fell apart . . .

[craggy summit]

It makes dragons alot less scary when you put that into perspective, their flight speed is slightly faster than normal walking speed

[craggy summit]

That sounds SO COOL 😭😭

We raced statues down a snowy hill which sounds crazy without context and it's probably even more crazy with context

[potent vector]

Yeah, Monk Goliath, so 45ft movement speed in Giant form, plus Monk movement speed (65ft total) PLUS a scroll of Longstrider (75ft total).

Dash twice equals 225ft movement speed per turn

[potent vector]

What was the context lol?

[craggy summit]

if you blink, that Goliath is GONE 💀

[potent vector]

Fun fact

The fastest Spelljammer has a fly speed of only 70ft

Which means I could be faster than a magic space ship

[craggy summit]

climbing snowy hill

see 3 solid golden statues that are worth alot of gold

we don't have anyway to carry them but we wanna sell them

we decide to break the statue from it's base and let it slide down the hill

for fun, there's 6 of us so we made teams and 2 of us are riding on each statue

now we're racing and trying to boost ourselves while sabotaging others

some people was using mold earth to make ramps for themselves

i casted light on an arrow and shot it on someone's helmet to blind them

[stoic haven]

That isnt as fast as Usain Bolt

Surprisingly

Thats around 25.6 mph

[potent vector]

Looked it up, just BARELY

He runs 240 - 246 ft per 6 seconds, if we convert it to ft.

[stoic haven]

Yep, so 41 ft/s

That's still incredibly fast

[umbral girder]

3mph is 30ft a turn last I checked

[umbral girder]

Wait they only move 7mph???

Space is slow it seems.

[bronze canopy]

That’s separate from their warp speed or hyperspace or whatever the books call it

They enter that speed when they come within a mile(?) of another object, vehicle, etc

[umbral girder]

Neat lore I’m reading, Black Dragons seem to very specifically like to pick on Humans.

[wispy vector]

What are some of the best utility/support subclasses for healing, shielding, buffing...
Everything EXCEPT damage.

[sleek cloud]

Bard

[potent vector]

My favorite tidbit from Fizban's is how Sapphire Dragons favorite food are Giant Spiders lol. And that they cause them to appear their lairs.

[umbral girder]

Bard likely.

[potent vector]

Bard period, ye, lol.

[sleek cloud]

Great idea, have an inspiration

[umbral girder]

Would have said Cleric or Paladin but they have great damage so that knocks them out of the running

[lavish flame]

Life Cleric, any Bard, many Paladins, some Druids

[wispy vector]

Bard it is, I suppose. Lol.

Want to make something of a cliché support fairy

[sleek cloud]

Fairy is indeed a species

[wispy vector]

Gotta be one of the species of all time

[undone rain]

Makes me wonder if you can reflavor fairy height into pixie height

[woven flint]

Size is just the amount of space the creature controls
Your fairy can be flavored as tiny

[undone rain]

Tiny fella

[wispy vector]

Literal pocket medic

[woven flint]

Of course, you won't function as tiny mechanically

[humble cairn]

Support Focused Bard is great! Lore Bard has so many ways to make an enemy miss and protect allies.

[pine adder]

This is advice for for both dms and players kindly keep your first names and names of common stuff simple. Looking at you "Jack Sparrow" (what we called him.) and your 16 syllable long name. Grrr

[woven flint]

Glamor Bard is also a very good control bard

[rough basalt]

Nah ima makeem even more complicated

[wispy vector]

I want less enemy control and more party buffs though

[humble cairn]

All Bards will have a mixture of both. But yeah Glamour is great.

[woven flint]

Enemy control IS a buff to your party because it helps them fight more effectively

[rough basalt]

Ah 4e my beloved

[pine adder]

you playing 2014 or 2024 rules?

[viral kraken]

i was just converting 4e monsters to 5e earlier

[woven flint]

You command someone to Drop, congrats, they're prone and now your Melee martials have advantages on Attack Rolls against it until its next turn, that's a buff

[rough basalt]

Yeah enemy control and party buff is synonymous for the most part

[wispy vector]

2014

[humble cairn]

2024 Color Spray was a lot more effective than I was expecting.

[woven flint]

Also, playing purely support and not doing any damage is a bit rough imo as it slightly decreases your parties overall damage output

[humble cairn]

If you want more of a focus on ally buffs, give Glamor a try.

[wispy vector]

Haste should be helpful though

[umbral girder]

To be fair that is part of the fantasy

[woven flint]

I mean, yeah.. I guess

[woven flint]

Well, if you're anything other than a lore bard, you're not getting haste until level 10
(Because Haste isn't naturally on the bard spell list)

[humble cairn]

I played a Lore Bard with Vicious Mockery as my only damage option and it worked out pretty well.

[wispy vector]

Well, I'm also considering Divine Sorcerer or Cleric atm.
Otherwise I'm definitely fine with waiting till 10

[woven flint]

And, honestly, if Haste is your ONLY reason going lore bard, then it's probably not the best option for you

[humble cairn]

I am a Support Supremacist, though. All the damage from my allies critting on the target I paralyzed I counted as mine.

[rough basalt]

I run hard games so support heavy builds can be very good in my games, but at certain tables it could feel like you don't matter.

Depending on how you support anyhow

[woven flint]

My Battlemaster fighter is a good all-rounder with Damage output and support 🧐

[humble cairn]

And with Vicious Mockery, Bane, and Cutting Words, I made enemies look like total fools whiffing all the time.

[woven flint]

Then at later levels you can hit them with a Synaptic Static 😎

I'm a Synaptic Static enjoyer lol

[humble cairn]

This was a level 5 one shot, I would love to play that same character at a higher level.

[rough basalt]

I think the key to support is to make sure you have a solid damage option for when support is already occurring or not needed

Like in Ophids case Vicious Mockery

[severe fox]

im starting a new thing thing called "bad balance idea for dnd"

[rough basalt]

2014 it's not super solid damage but disadvantage still supports

[woven flint]

Mind Sliver is also an incredibly good bard damage option

[humble cairn]

Got the Bard achievement of killing someone with Vicious Mockery, though. That was sweet.

[lilac marsh]

Hello

[severe fox]

pretty much 1 small change that can utterly break the game

[rough basalt]

Not tracking money components

[lilac marsh]

Can someone build a character for me, im struggling to build them

[rough basalt]

A very small change on paper, breaks the game into pieces

[woven flint]

Giving long rest after every encounter

[lilac marsh]

Im trying to make it zoroark from pokemon

[severe fox]

not that big

[woven flint]

...
Just grab disguise self or be a Changeling!

[woven flint]

What?

[severe fox]

example maving mind slivers debuff scale along side the damage

[woven flint]

Ah, yes, after every single encounter giving my party a long rest AND giving them all their resources back is totally not game breaking as it totally doesn't make casters roided up at all times, sure

[severe fox]

so at level 5 if you fail the save it the next saving throw by 2d4

[pine adder]

I want to start this by saying how this is not very good but for pure fun my recommendation would be bard as starting class with 1 order cleric.
bard subclass is your choice of lore for more spells/skills or spirits bard for buffs or creation for less buff more utility.
If your DM allows it silvery barbs is super fun on this build

[severe fox]

i said small changes besides you can only benefit from 1 long rest per day

unless you ignore that rule

[woven flint]

I'm mostly talking about ONCE DAILY encounters could be game breaking.

[severe fox]

who only does 1 encounter a day?

[woven flint]

Inexperienced dms
Sometimes people who do Hexcrawls, etc etc etc.

You asked for one change that could break D&D
I said once daily encounters.

[severe fox]

small changes

[humble cairn]

Daylight Savings Time

[woven flint]

That's a small change relatively speaking

[severe fox]

thats not small at all but ok

i mean like tweaks to spells and such

[woven flint]

Whatever you say, bud

[knotty vine]

well arent you just a basket of fun things today

[rough basalt]

Some people will do it out of spite

[woven flint]

Sometimes, I realize
I really got to hold my tongue in this server

[knotty vine]

if you want my take... redoing the changes made to all the conjure spells

[rough basalt]

"Why should I only run more than one encounter? WotC can't tell me what to do!"
two sessions later
"Why is my game so unbalanced? Damn you Matt Mercer!"

[umbral girder]

Tokii out here feeding the trolls today I see.

[knotty vine]

so they scale with 2d8 instead of 1d8 per spell up casted

[woven flint]

I dunno what it is today
Must be a full moon
(Looks outside at the shining sun)

[knotty vine]

people seemed to be up in arms about that

[rough basalt]

Well 2d8 on upcast for CME was pretty ridiculous

[knotty vine]

yeah

this coffee taste off

[rough basalt]

No misprint was as bad as the Dex save on carrion crawler poison where if you fail you're paralyzed for a minute cause you cant do Dex saves while paralyzed

[knotty vine]

thats

holy that is funny

stun locked

[woven flint]

2d8 per spell level for Cure Wounds is reasonable

But CME applies on every attack so of course the upscaling was incredibly broken 😭

[rough basalt]

Ye it's obviously a con save as we have the carrion crawler mucus poison to go off of but some tired intern accidentally put dex in the initial print copies

[knotty vine]

so yeah a small change that breaks a spell

[woven flint]

Dex save against Poison is VILE

[knotty vine]

another potential is allowing you to do things while in time stop

[rough basalt]

Ye i feel bad for whatever happened to that intern

[woven flint]

Making Hypnotic Pattern an INT save since majority of enemies are terrible against those would be broken

[rough basalt]

A small but colossal mistake, they were definitely thrown into pandemonium

[knotty vine]

thats a great 1

i remember reading about a 3p wizard that was just able to make any of its spells int saves as well as adding a +1 to the dc

[humble cairn]

Small change that breaks the game: Order the letters in DM wrong, now you are asking your doctor to run game night.

[rough basalt]

3rd party stuff feels like at least 50% "i wanna be powerful but my dm said official content only" was the design intent

[woven flint]

Small Changes that break the game:
Give your party a deck of many things /joking

[sleek cloud]

Oops! All medicine checks.

[rough basalt]

Deck of Many Things makes the game better

[knotty vine]

i remember playing with a deck of many things

i got the one that chains you down

[rough basalt]

my wednesday game almost ran into the Deck of Many More Things

so both my parties couldve had decks

[knotty vine]

and after i was freeded i got the one that entombs you

[rough basalt]

Nice, good job deck

[knotty vine]

i know right

[woven flint]

Deserved

[knotty vine]

die to a mimic

[woven flint]

Here's to hoping you get Donjon'd next time you draw from the deck /teasing

[knotty vine]

i hope you get eaten by a hydra

[woven flint]

I actually killed a Hydra recently with DA BOIZ

[knotty vine]

found it its called edit spell
Choose a spell in your spellbook that is level 1 or higher. When you prepare that spell, you can give it one or more the following benefits:

The spell save DC of your spells increases by 1.
If that spell deals damage, you can change that damage’s type to a different one of your choice.

If that spell requires a saving throw, you can change that saving throw to Intelligence.

[drifting monolith]

Isn’t this the metamagic of the sorcerer class?

[polar mortar]

Hey guys, what would be a reasonable price for an overview map of a dnd world.

[rugged hawk]

Why not just make one on Inkarnate?

[polar mortar]

I prolly will if I get another person charging 500$ for a map style 2d drawing

But I wanted professional to do it and was wondering what a normal not scamish pricing would be

[feral fulcrum]

World Avil is also a good option

[lavish flame]

Doing cartography isn't cheap, especially depending on the level of detail you want and the size of the space you need art of. I'd assume triple digits tbh

[river vector]

I love literally introducing an NPC that asks to be let into the house, and the players aren't suspicious at all.

[rough basalt]

I suggest trying to make it yourself tbh

its what i did with inkarnate

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah, Charecter Art is substantially easier then doing any kind of detailed cartography

[lavish flame]

I always make my own continent maps. Azgaar's fantasy map generator is what I use to make landmasses and topology

then I use art programs like Inkscape to mark political borders

[severe rampart]

Would be a good vampire spawn encounter, just a guy posing as the milk man

[polar mortar]

@lavish flame I messaged you

[river vector]

It's the BBEG posing as a "holy cleric" that is now traveling with the party

[undone rain]

Oh boy more drama in the dnd community

[minor cargo]

To be nosey about drama is to be human.

I don't watch Ted, but apparently Brennan Lee Mulligan was on it and they did a bunch of D&D stuff. Has anyone seen it? How was it?

[feral fulcrum]

Ted the movie franchise about a talking stuffed bear, Ted Talks, or some other Ted I don't know about?

[minor cargo]

Ted, the TV show from the movie franchise about the talking stuffed bear, yeah.

[rough basalt]

ive seen a few shorts of it

was a bit a funny whiplash moment to see Brennan, its your typical Seth McFarlane funny scene

[wanton raft]

playing a cleric is so fun, I get to tell people "you're blessed" every 2 minutes

[umbral girder]

Interesting thing I learned. White dragon Wyrmlings like to hunt in packs.

[lyric viper]

I guess it's better for them to survive as a unit before going solo. I still keep thinking of trying to run an all dragon game. Have players start as wyrmlings after their parents are slain, and need to work together to regain territory and power.

[umbral girder]

They also like to purposefully over sell themselves being dumber than other dragons to lure people into traps

[knotty vine]

im dying rn

[wanton raft]

Damn thats crazy

[rugged hawk]

Welcome to the human condition.

[rough basalt]

I've yet to run a proper dragon fight

[nova nacelle]

Anyone know of like a generic TTRPG channel/server? I want to discuss D&D and Pathfinder, but if I do it in a D&D channel people get upset, and if I do it in a pathfinder channel people get upset.

[rough basalt]

You'd have to find like a small community server

[woven flint]

#non-dnd-topics

Idk lol

[rugged hawk]

Oh, right, before you kick the bucket, lemme know: can I has your XP and lewt when you go to the D&D tavern in the sky?

[rough basalt]

Cause yeah. If you wanna talk other systems here there's that channel or in passing

Pathfinder discord will wanna reduce you to 0 hit points for mentioning dnd so a community server is best bet

[woven flint]

We talk about D&D mostly here, but pathfinder can be referenced in comparison so long as it's not the main conversation topic, I suppose

Someone earlier said the wish martials could dp crazy things in combat and I said
"You could look at Pathfinders martials for inspiration for what you'd like your D&D martials to do in your own games"
Essentially

[rough basalt]

Other system discords won't take too kindly to mentions of dnd ime

[nova nacelle]

God why do people get so freaking team based, you can like multiple TTRPGS!

[vital lily]

^^^

also moral question for dnd but how evil is being a loan shark really

[empty grail]

Should I name my character that does absurd damage on round 1 Leroy Jenkins

[vital lily]

Yes

[empty grail]

Alr

[vivid pelican]

Old man artificer that has a cane that can turn into a long range-high caliber sniper rifle with a click of a button

[tender fossil]

So Mr Rogers?

[vivid pelican]

You talking to me or?

[rough basalt]

its just a bunch of things

A lot, I'd argue majority of people who play other systems probably started with dnd and a lot of the people who vehemently hate it were driven away from it for some reason or another

[vivid pelican]

I made a sorcerer called Gregory

When he runs out of mana, he just pulls a gun from his belt and shoots at the enemy

[rough basalt]

Whether it was WotC mistakes and greed, or changes that needed to happen, or changes that made dnd the way they dont like

[vivid pelican]

"You think just because I'm out of mana that I can't attack you?" chuckles in 9mm

[rough basalt]

There's annoying people on both ends of the deal tho

[vital lily]

Thats fair tho im always gonna play dnd and mix whatever I want from other systems into it

[rough basalt]

I keep other systems where they belong

if i turn 5e into frankensteins monster I can't use books to help me when I'm at a loss

[feral fulcrum]

It's built into Humanity, it's Tribal Monkey Brain. The Others are Not Yours and must be SHUNNED.

[rough basalt]

A lot of people who spread the hate I'd argue don't even actually play the systems

They just do it to argue.

[viral kraken]

it's easier to hate what we don't understand

[vital lily]

I mean if you keep notes on where you got stuff from itd help no?

[rough basalt]

More work than i care for, and I'm forgetful

[vital lily]

Valid

[vital lily]

I hate corn but I dont not understand it

[viral kraken]

but do you really understand the corn? its plight? its desires?

[vital lily]

I understand it must be purged

[rough basalt]

If I wanna play a crunchy high fantasy system, I'd rather just play pathfinder that allows all content except adventure paths for free to access and use rather than go through all the work turning 5e into 3.5e

[vivid pelican]

I made a dnd campaign where the party has to hunt different animals and sell them to keep your tavern open or else the landlord will come and kick you out and you will die to the winter

[vital lily]

What about 5.5 into 4e heheh

[rough basalt]

I'd rather play 4e

[vivid pelican]

Whoever wants to use my campaign, I suck at being a dm and would much rather be a player so feel free to use it

[rough basalt]

I don't see the point in repeating the same work others have done, but even more work to make it somehow fit into something that already exists and is heavily fleshed out creating an abomination.

[viral kraken]

i think the people who do, do it because it is fun for them right?

[rough basalt]

Not always

[viral kraken]

oh that's no good

[rough basalt]

Some do it cause they think "theyre doing what wotc cant"

[viral kraken]

huh, interesting

[vivid pelican]

It is actually inspired by a game i have made on roblox called Foresto: Hunting game

[rough basalt]

And not what wotc intentionally didnt do cause it didnt fit the systems design intention

[fading summit]

hey guys so i have problem with 1 of my players * And no i dont want to kick him out *
one of my players is the greedies player i have seen. he sees chest? drops fight and go for it. today we had argument about the prices of housing and why he cant go in the same room as some other guy. * the hotel price was 2gold piece and right before i have given them 50 for side quest *
i tryed mimics etc and it doesnt work

[rough basalt]

A lot of people, especially online approach changes to 5e as "fixing the system" rather than adjusting it to fit their needs

[vital lily]

Ooo

[vivid pelican]

But you just hunt to get money for better weapons to hunt better things and there is no tavern

[vital lily]

The main thing i like from it is the spellplague marks stuff honestly

[vivid pelican]

In this campaign, there is actually a purpose for better animals

[rough basalt]

And they get mad if their "adjustments" get to the point they can no longer advertise it as 5e in good faith cause someone will probably tell them that

[tender fossil]

I've had players do characters like that, usually it's for role-playing purposes and we roll with it. One guy was playing a thief who was all about disarming traps, he even had it in his contract that he was not required to fight if his skills were needed elsewhere. You just have to work it into the campaign

[vivid pelican]

Better animals, better money. Even if you do kill it, some weapons can effect the quality of the meat. If you use a big caliber weapon on a small creature, you will barely get any money for the meat

[vital lily]

Next time have an enemy have opportunity to attack when he leaves combat and opens the chest?

My bad

[rough basalt]

For example I advertise for 5e but I've removed everything and I roll a d20 to see what players say they do goes well
I can yell and scream that its 5e but if i recruit 5e players for it, they're probably gonna leave or wanna leave but anxiety prevents them

[vivid pelican]

And if you skin it, depending on the roll for the skinning skill, is what quality the pelt is

[fading summit]

sorry wrong chat

[fading summit]

it aint role playing

[rough basalt]

Have enemies grapple him

[fading summit]

wont work hes too strong for normal mimics etc

[rough basalt]

Disintegration traps

[woven flint]

Be straight up like
"Dude, it's a game of pretend, always getting to the loot first ain't that deep."

[tender fossil]

Then use non-normal mimics. There is a whole host of monsters you can use as ambush predators

[vital lily]

Adv on attacks to hit him

[vivid pelican]

Who here needs voices for npcs? If you need voices, I will be in call to voice the character based on their description

[vital lily]

Tempting

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-advertisements

[vivid pelican]

I rolled a 19 in charisma

[woven flint]

Say the treasure belongs to a prolific individual and if he still steals, send a boneclaw after him lol

[tender fossil]

Or from maximum effort the chest requires a dual key system that needs two people to unlock. Or the treasure inside is loose, bulky or very heavy

[lyric viper]

Yeah this is more an out of game issue of discussing playing the game together. Looting midcombat leaves your team to continue without your aid and you can get the loot after.

[tender fossil]

Unless you were playing an old school module which in case the weapon designed to kill the monster you're fighting is usually behind the monster you're fighting

[fossil hollow]

as a general rule though, what Elgate said though still applies

[woven flint]

Genuinely Vexes me, honestly

You care about LOOT THAT BAD?

I think I hold Loot Goblins with the sane disdain as Murderhobos

[lyric viper]

Loot is to be shared, not hoarded by one PC, and need to discuss what the value is to him. Like why is his character so miserly over a few gold pieces that he'd make his teams mates uncomfortable? And is it the PC or the player, because hoenstly in 5e, gold doesn't mean too much.

[woven flint]

Emperyean appears:
"Your Greed sickens me."
Smited /silly

[tender fossil]

Or fill the treasure chest with electrum pieces. Nobody wants electrum pieces

[vital lily]

what if the pcs a dwarf

[woven flint]

Me, the hungry electrum eater

[lyric viper]

I still feel like this should be addressed and discussed out of character because 'in character punishments' don't tend to actually work.

[woven flint]

Absolutely ^

[tender fossil]

If it's becoming disruptive then it's a problem outside the game more than inside

[undone rain]

I usually loot at early levels and sometimes at higher but not to an overwhelming extent lol

[minor cargo]

To add on to Elgate’s, my first step in addressing it “above table” is just to know more. Like why does the player do this? Does the player know how it’s making others feel? That kinda stuff.

[tender fossil]

My group doesn't do a lot of looting until after the dungeon is done. At which point we strip mine it

[vital lily]

^^

[undone rain]

Thats when its best to loot

[tender fossil]

Strahd woke up to find all of his furniture was sold at an estate sale. Even his clothes

Unfortunately for him, the thief also wore a size 12 shoe

[woven flint]

I like the idea of a giant mimic boss whose the embodiment of Avarice (I know Mammon exists, but still.. he's not a mimic!)

A Gargantuan Mimic acting as an entire kingdom

[tender fossil]

Aurumvore. Across between a rust monster and a wolverine, can smell gold and can strip a party of their wealth in a couple of rounds. They converted it to 5th edition for radiant citadel but it is a thing that is current

[undone rain]

Havent stumbled upon a mimic yet, dms not that evil

[lyric viper]

I have a strong memory of playing Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance with my mum and going 'Ahahahah, gold!' and running around getting all of it in a mad rush, and my mum pausing and going 'This makes me not want to play.'

And at the time of being a wee loot goblin, it was the confusion of 'But I thought this was the point of the game? Getting treasure is fun. I want to get all of it.'

And my mum had to explain 'because if you take all the gold, I can't buy things at the shop, and I can't have fun too. I also want to get the treasure. I want us to do things together and have fun.'

[tender fossil]

Or have the magic items benefit other classes

[rough basalt]

If someone won't listen, and you won't remove them, I'd say best solution might be encumbrance

[severe fox]

i exploded today

[undone rain]

Give em a curse that makes their carry weight less

[tender fossil]

That's why you use your goblin prisoners to clear minefields

[rough basalt]

Ooo curses can be good punishments

curse that makes everything they touch hurt them (only what they touch after the curse)

[tender fossil]

Problem is curses are very easy to get rid of according to the rules

[undone rain]

Everytime you loot you take 1d6 damage

[rough basalt]

and make it a special curse, cant be removed with remove curse

[tender fossil]

That's what you usually have to do with most curses to give them any teeth

[lyric viper]

I feel like the advice of 'Don't use in game punishments to solve out of game issues' is getting a bit glossed over here.

[undone rain]

Curses can be a funny plot point too sometimes. My paladin got cursed with a sword that gives him advantage on attack rolls but disadvantage with any other weapon. As well as slowly makin him go mad aaaand basically makes him the dark urge in bg3

[fossil hollow]

oh, Berserker weapons

[severe rampart]

While we're on the topic of curses, 4 of my players are cursed and I have been brainstorming ways they could be free of this

[undone rain]

Win/lose situtation but i was cured later and got to do more damage after cure with said sword

[severe rampart]

All of them cannot be removed with remove curse

[novel ridge]

Is there a role where I can put my moral alignment as well ? Like I can put either lawful good, neutral good or neutral itself

[lyric viper]

We just have class roles for the flairs and DM, Player, Jack of all trades for name colour.

id:customize has the roles options.

[novel ridge]

I don’t play D&D but paladin as always they are the good guys

[fossil hollow]

eh

[vital lily]

i got evil paladins

[fossil hollow]

Oathbreaker and COnquest exist too

[vital lily]

i got plans for at least flavor of my fighter becoming a conquest paladin

[wanton raft]

ehhh from what I heard, there is no good guy class

[tender fossil]

They've largely stripped the paladin of its code of conduct

[severe rampart]

There's no good guy class nor is there a bad guy class

[wanton raft]

I mean I thought cleric was a good guy class till i had to fight a blood cleric

[woven flint]

Paladins can 100% be evil.

[fossil hollow]

Death Domain sitting there since 2014

[flint ledge]

I actually don't like what they did in the class description of the paladin subclases. They basically make all of them out as goody 2 shoes

[woven flint]

Clerics when evil deities exist

[severe rampart]

And there's a war cleric, tempest cleric, etc.

Also, if they have a patron god, they can choose which God they worship, which could range from Bahamut to Tiamat

[woven flint]

War and Tempest aren't necessarily evil subclasses though? Lol

[fossil hollow]

almost every class assumes a heroic fantasy description (exception being Warlock, special edgy bois they are)

[severe rampart]

I'm saying those subclasses could be evil, if they wanted to

[woven flint]

Yeah, ALL Cleric subclasses could be evil if they wanted to.

[flint ledge]

Virtually every subclass could be evil

[flint ledge]

Not sure about life

[woven flint]

Even Life domain, you can keep people alive for malicious reasons.

[wanton raft]

True true. Idk why I. Maybe cause I thought cleric = healer (which is why I wanted to play it) but I've done more reverse healing

[severe rampart]

Yeah, that's why there's no good or evil outright, well, probably except Oathbreaker

[severe rampart]

IIRC it specifies that you have to be evil?

[wanton raft]

killing you, sending you to hell, reviving you with revivify and doing it over and over till you confess

[fossil hollow]

See a certain country's healthcare

[severe rampart]

My aasimar war cleric is waiting... for its moment to shine

[severe rampart]

LMAO, right on the money!

[woven flint]

Let's say you're a life cleric who works under a king who loves to torture people near to death.
And you heal them before the sweet release of death just so they can suffer the pain all over again.

[severe rampart]

Reminds me of a certain... show

[fossil hollow]

You can also just be a malpracticing doctor

[woven flint]

Healing can ABSOLUTELY be used in evil ways.

[meager fractal]

torture for one

[fossil hollow]

one day ill play a healer who is just borderline sadistic

[flint ledge]

How do you guys flavor healing magic actually, as comfortable and painless? Or as the worst pain in your life?

[woven flint]

Also, there are a few Evil Life Domain deities too
(I forgot her name but Gruumshes wife for example)

[fossil hollow]

depends on the particular character. Different individuals, different methods

[severe rampart]

Run a scam, create the problem, sell the solution

[fossil hollow]

What Big Healer doesnt want you to know

[meager fractal]

usually as a cool wave of energy rushing over the wound. Not painful but definitely not comfortable

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah buddy, for this cure wounds I'm gonna need... 100 gold pieces

[severe rampart]

Don't forget the added tax

[wanton raft]

Scariest words to hear... "I cast healing word"

[flint ledge]

I wonder what's the equivalent of snake oil in dnd

[flint ledge]

Basilik oil maybe

[severe rampart]

Dragon Scale(fake)

[woven flint]

I'd say the Cleric Subclasses that have least malevolent potential are Peace and Grave.
Though they could still indeed be evil

Before you say anything against Grave Clerics, their whole thing Is maintaining the line between life and death

It's not GOOD or EVIL

[severe rampart]

Peace, using what method? could be creating an extremely tight government, forcing people to live under-... ahem... I mean, dungeons and dragons is fun

[flint ledge]

I feel like certain ones need to jump through a lot more hoops than others

[woven flint]

That would be an evil ORDER Cleric

[severe rampart]

You could still achieve peace with order

[fossil hollow]

Ask Sunday

[halcyon bison]

kill them with kindness

[woven flint]

Yes, but Order and Peace are two different domains.

[flint ledge]

Well but you'd probably have to start a few wars to achieve that

[severe rampart]

Yeah yeah, peace by killing those that disrupt it, or cause chaos, with no due trial or fair hearings

Hm... still sounds like order, a bit

[woven flint]

Again.
That's an Order Cleric thing.

[halcyon bison]

you can be evil in ways other than killing people

[severe rampart]

Mhm, yes

[fossil hollow]

watch me tie everyones shoelaces in a giant rat king

[woven flint]

A Peace Cleric could maintain peace by forcibly making Kings share pain between eachother
(It's a domain feature)

[severe rampart]

Pardon me, in my language, there is only one word for both Peace and Order. But these are still sort of closely related topics no?

[fossil hollow]

yes and no

[halcyon bison]

A peace cleric who's like a comically evil villian but WILL NOT kill people to keep the pg 13 rating

[fossil hollow]

You can have peace without order

[severe rampart]

How do you mean?

[woven flint]

Elves typically live peaceful lives for the most part, but nothing about their society is necessarily ORDERLY

[jagged jungle]

I’m thinking of character concepts

[halcyon bison]

And you can definitely have order without peace

[fossil hollow]

I would probably break server rules trying to explain my thoughts on it

[severe rampart]

And you could also get Order without peace, no?

[halcyon bison]

Ooh what kind of characters

[meager fractal]

The infernal hordes of Avernus would enjoy having an order cleric among them. Wouldn't like a peace cleric much tho

[woven flint]

Through tyranny and fear mongering, yeah

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah, now I get why my examples were more on "Order"

[jagged jungle]

trying to think of how to do an older character of a long living race that’s come out of isolation relatively recently without being too close to frieren or being uninteresting to roleplay with

[fossil hollow]

ok, ig my best example is just Guy from Free Guy

Peace in the middle of the storm

[jagged jungle]

Thinking maybe bro’s most recent wife died 20 years ago and he’s getting a hobby to deal with it (adventuring)

[halcyon bison]

I dont know anything about Frieren
But maybe this character is like a parental figure to the party because they feel the need to take care of the youngins

[severe rampart]

Never heard of it, sort of rings a bell, but it reminds me of The Secret Life of Walter Mitty

[halcyon bison]

Sweet old man or lady who bakes cookies for the party

[woven flint]

... okay then?

[fossil hollow]

reminder that irl religion talke is discouraged here

[jagged jungle]

Maybe

[halcyon bison]

every time I make a cleric (once) i make them a follower of loki

[severe rampart]

... The horse God?

[halcyon bison]

yeah :3
but also of other things

[severe rampart]

Woops, auto correction, still correct though

[fossil hollow]

thats... one thing to be known for

[halcyon bison]

thats very funny

[severe rampart]

Oh my god he's... oh yeah. He did that. He did that with that horse.

[jagged jungle]

I had a character named Jimothy who was a farmer and I convinced the party kobold I was a reincarnated tiamat

[woven flint]

My Clerics have all followed different deities

Vaeraun (Trickery)
Kelemvor (Grave)
The Doombringer (War)
Ohgma (Knowledge)

[severe rampart]

Talos for Tempest soon maybe?

[woven flint]

Nah, Talos is a bum.

[halcyon bison]

I dont really like most of the D&D gods to be honest
they just aren't super compelling to me

[severe rampart]

I don't really set up my characters with patron gods, unless it's my warlock, thank you Bahamut

[woven flint]

I know TOO many deities lol

[halcyon bison]

Except for the elder evils those are cool

[jagged jungle]

Yea skyrim is for the nords

[severe rampart]

I know many deities... just the ones dnd took from Greek myths and Norse myths...

[halcyon bison]

Cleric of Hadar

[woven flint]

The Elder Evils aren't really deities

[meager fractal]

they'd probably be better served by a warlock

[woven flint]

I mean, you don't have to WORSHIP a Deity to be a Cleric

[vivid pelican]

THE HAND OF INEVITABILITY - When there is a cheater, greedy person, or just someone that just plain out wants all the spotlight to himself, a giant black ooze hand bursts through the ground and takes them to THE ABYSS where they have to roll three times, 15 or higher to get out of the abyss

This is what I use in every campaign I dm

[fossil hollow]

Cleric list:

• Athena/Ares
• Wild Hunt
• Illmater
• Hestia
• Sehanine

Paladins i got:

• Tharizdun
• Hiatea
• Raven Queen
• Illmater

[woven flint]

Honestly, Ghaunadaur is the Deity my GOO Warlock would probably pact with

[severe rampart]

Feels weird

[meager fractal]

I'd make a pact with the eternal goatmother

[severe rampart]

If you have a problem with a player's behavior, communicate to them about it

[meager fractal]

yes, in game solutions for an out of game problem doesn't end well.

[fossil hollow]

Dont solve out of game issues with in game solutions

[vivid pelican]

People in my campaigns think they can just do what they want because I am young and they're grown adults so I made the entity to combat that

[severe rampart]

Find new players

[fossil hollow]

You can also just. Talk to them like adults

[woven flint]

That's uh... just remove them from their games it they disrespect you because you're young?
Or talk to them about it

[severe rampart]

I'm younger than all my players, they still listen, they communicate to me, they respect me, just as I respect them.

[fossil hollow]

Im one of the youngest people in all of the games ! DM for too, at least got 5 year differences with most of them

[vivid pelican]

I crumble easily when confronted so this is just how I cope to punish their game choices

[fossil hollow]

(i know were less than that Tokii, yes)

[severe rampart]

Crazy to think they've been doing it for so much longer than us, no?

[woven flint]

Ha, Tiny baby!!!! /joking

[fossil hollow]

thats... thats not the best way to do it. Thats kinda enabling them

[woven flint]

I'm like 2 years older than Timothy Mothingson

[fossil hollow]

shut up, youre only several years on me

still an unc

[lyric viper]

Ah, coming up again, in game 'punishments' rarely work to solve out of game issues.

[vivid pelican]

They've gotten better since I introduced the hand of inevitability

[woven flint]

ACKSHUALLY, I AM an Uncle smh
I've got a Niece and a Nephew 🤓

[meager fractal]

rarely? Do they ever?

[fossil hollow]

damn, old

[vivid pelican]

I've tried playing with kids my age and I might just stop Dungeon mastering all together because how can I just ban them from joining a game?

[severe rampart]

As an asian, I became an uncle when I was like 3 lmao

[fossil hollow]

what?

[vivid pelican]

I guess I could just ignore them everytime they try to make an action

[woven flint]

Don't allow people who won't respect you to be in your games...?

[lyric viper]

I'll give some leeway in how some playstyles can learn that things don't work as they expect due to in game consequences and rewards. Less 'out of game issue' and more 'how to reinforce certain game loops/ playstyles'.

[vivid pelican]

But how tho? Im not saying I'm attached but it's like a legitimate question. Is there like a button that I can press to not let them join or?

[fossil hollow]

where do you play

[vivid pelican]

I play on call

[severe rampart]

... Are you handing out the links to the server before interviewing them???

[vivid pelican]

I have a group chat

[fossil hollow]

remove from group chat is a thing, right?

[vivid pelican]

I've been using discord for a year and I just made a group chat so idk where that is

[fossil hollow]

.... if it discord, its right click on their profile

[vivid pelican]

I'm on phone

[fossil hollow]

Long press

[vivid pelican]

Ohhh

[fossil hollow]

aging rapidly

[vivid pelican]

Imma keep the ones that are actually role-playing as intended and kick that one particular guy that breaks the immersion

cough cough Grimm. cough cough

[idle oar]

Yeah when running a Discord server it is critical to keep things locked down and only invite folks who you can trust to the server.
Make sure you're the only one who can send out invites as well.

[vivid pelican]

Anyways, I am new to DMing so is there a guide or rules to what you have to do or is the limit your own imagination?

[idle oar]

?newdm

[cosmic roost]

What is a Dungeon Master?

• In Dungeons & Dragons, one person serves as the Dungeon Master, the game’s lead storyteller and referee. The DM runs the adventure for the players, who navigate its hazards and decide which paths to explore.

How does it work?

• Learn how to be a Dungeon Master with this YouTube video or D&D Beyond article.
• The D&D Free Rules are available at no cost and cover everything you need to know to play.

Where do I start?

• Decide what kind of campaign you want to run. Here’s a few good options for new DMs.
• Get advice from your fellow Dungeon Masters in #dm-discussion and #dm-world-building.

[idle oar]

?dmtips

[cosmic roost]

D&D Starter Set: Dragons of Stormwreck Isle

Dungeon Master Tips

The most important part of being a good DM is facilitating the fun of everyone at the table. Keep these tips in mind to help things go smoothly:

Embrace the shared story.

D&D is about telling a story as a group, so let the players contribute to the outcome through the words and deeds of their characters. If some players are reluctant to speak up, ask them what their characters are doing.

It’s not a competition.

The DM isn’t competing against the player characters. Your job is to referee the rules, run monsters, and keep the story moving.

Be fair and flexible.

Treat your players in a fair, impartial manner. The rules help you do this, but you can make your own rulings to ensure everyone is having fun.

Modify the adventure to suit your tastes.

Adventures have no prescribed outcome. You can alter any encounter to make it more interesting and fun for your players.

Don’t worry about mistakes.

Dungeon Masters are fallible, just like everyone else, and even experienced DMs make mistakes. If you overlook, forget, or misrepresent something, correct yourself and move on. No one expects you to memorize every part of this adventure and all the rules in the Basic Rules. As long as your players are having fun, everything will be just fine.

[vivid pelican]

So its basically just "make whatever you want but keep it fair"

[stiff rock]

pretty much

[idle oar]

As a DM your primary goal is to ensure a fun and safe D&D playing environment IMO.
You run an adventure for your players (prewritten or self-created) and set the scene, ask the players how their characters react to that scene, decide if dice rolls are needed and what type, and push the story along.

You don't have to make up everything - and it does help to keep things generally based on the actual game rules

[vivid pelican]

What about my hunting campaign?

Like different weapons of different creatures can either make or break the money you get from the animal itself

[severe rampart]

I like to take a break at around 1 hour 30 minutes mark of my sessions, see how everyone's holding up, if they're uncomfortable with anything, etc.

[idle oar]

That's fine? Are the player characters part of a monster hunting guild?
And they have quests to go out and hunt down'/defeat monsters to protect the local towns/cities?

That sounds like a good base to run some D&D games

[vivid pelican]

Like a 50 caliber sniper rifle can ruin the meat of a tiny rabbit because there is no meat to scavenge and you basically destroyed the pelt so the bunny is usel

But the 50 caliber is great against an animal like the cave bear

[idle oar]

Well that's clearly going strongly into homebrew but if that's what your group finds fun, and you're having fun, then go right ahead.

The point of D&D (and games generally) is to have fun.

[vivid pelican]

Bet

Let me plan out my campaign some more and I will post a thing in #looking-for-players

[idle oar]

And secure your Discord server 😉

[vivid pelican]

I did

I texted my friend to ban Grimm for life and don't give him an appeal sheet

[lyric viper]

You can ask for homebrew advice in #homebrew but one tip is to considering how much tracking of details/resources/math so on would be needed. TTRPGs can play different to CRPGs, where that tedium can be automated by the computer and there's more space for interactions with an individual.

TTRPGs typically focus more on the group and abstracted gameplay.

[rough basalt]

Another thing to make sure as a dm that you also have fun

You'll get burnt out quick if your not running a game you wanna run.

[vivid pelican]

Alright I have everything mapped out and cared for. Time to post on #looking-for-players

[sly crest]

I non-ironically adore the devilish tieflings, but I'm considering a tiefling barbarian who's gnoll-based

[fossil hollow]

gnoll tiefling is neat. Im making a maelephant/Rakshasa one for an upcoming Calimshan game