dnd-discussion

[grizzled lance]

That and scream grovel and something else

[harsh hollow]

Weak to sunlight.

[grizzled lance]

Umbrella

[prime pewter]

True. I need to play like, an orc Hexblood of an Annis Hag

[harsh hollow]

They have that weird thing where they can pull out a fingernail and watch you through it.

[prime pewter]

Yea cant wait to disturb my party with that!!

[harsh hollow]

I wonder if they're going to make Hexblood and Reborn into their own species in 2024 since they did that to Dhampir.

[prime pewter]

(Pulls out a tooth) here you'll need this

[prime pewter]

Please please please I really hope hexblood

[grizzled lance]

I doubt it

[prime pewter]

If they keep with the bg3 vibe, maybe Auntie Ethels Guide to hags?

[turbid vessel]

did they? what book was that in?

[grizzled lance]

Book of hungers

[harsh hollow]

Astarion's Book of Hungers.

[limber trail]

There's speculation they're gonna do a domain of dread themed book that might have hexbloods and reborn but I'm not sure if that'll happen now that book of hungers is out

[turbid vessel]

ah, missed that one

[grizzled lance]

I still prefer the old dhampier as you could be half anything as well as dhampier

[harsh hollow]

I also think people were assuming the horror-themed UA meant a Ravenloft book was on the horizon.

[grizzled lance]

While the new one is just… human I guess?

[grizzled lance]

Dhampiers in UA were meant to be humanoid and undead

But it got rewritten

[harsh hollow]

Really hoping Reanimator Artificer makes it, such a cool idea.

[grizzled lance]

Will it make it or will go to the depths to never see the light of day

[harsh hollow]

There's a lot of UA up in the air but still no word on first party content. I wonder what the holdup is.

[limber trail]

I'm surprised no new book has been announced yet

[grizzled lance]

I wished city domain was an actual class but that’s for more modern campaigns

[hoary totem]

I'm not sure if this is a hot take, but the Strixhaven subclasses should have been rewritten into being subclasses for wizards and sorcerers, and having normal subclass mechanics, so they work differently on wiz and sorc

[harsh hollow]

I think the idea of subclasses that span across base classes was neat, I wanted to see it in action.

[hoary totem]

We deserve city domain with actual combat capabilities and that fits in with most campaigns

[hoary totem]

Most people thought the UA sucked, but I loved it. Give me back my math wizard

[harsh hollow]

Silvery Barbs Class Feature Bard would have been everywhere. x3

[grizzled lance]

I still wonder why ppl ban silvery barbs

[harsh hollow]

A little too much bang for your buck was the impression I got.

[feral fulcrum]

"It hits." "Reroll that nerd." "It misses." Repeat five times.

[grizzled lance]

Only Vaild reason I’ve heard is that it stacks with disadvantage

[feral fulcrum]

It's too low level of a spell I feel. It should be 2cd Level at the very least.

It does far too much, for far too little.

[limber trail]

people act like most monsters are gonna miss their attack roll when especially at medium-high levels they still hit more often than not

[grizzled lance]

rerolls it hits anyway

[feral fulcrum]

Lucky Feat, reroll again nerd.

[grizzled lance]

It also cost a reaction to cast

[marble lion]

i think the only reason barbs is so hated is because its famous

[hoary totem]

The one thing I don't get about silvery barbs is the same deal I had with Purple Dragon knight, that being, why is it called Silvery Barbs?

[marble lion]

its fabricated hype that results in both players being smug about it and DMs thinking its literal hell

[limber trail]

you've wasted a spell slot on one miss - shield would do you better. The only great part about silvery barbs is it negates crits

[grizzled lance]

Basically this

Granted giving someone advantage is good tho

[feral fulcrum]

Or, perhaps, because people think it's legimately imbalanced.

[grizzled lance]

But again there’s plenty of other things that can also do that

[marble lion]

i think theyre incorrect

[limber trail]

at any level of play I will gladly reroll any d20 test as a DM if someone wants to waste their reaction and a spell slot on it

[feral fulcrum]

And you're free to disagree with them, just don't dismiss their opinions with "They just hate it because it's popular lol."

[harsh hollow]

I wonder if Seylune's Viper is gonna get a negative reputation like that for that whole "Incapacitate without a save" thing.

[grizzled lance]

Ehh only time will tell

[feral fulcrum]

Oh yeah it's going to be memed on. It really should have been a Save, I don't know what they were smoking.

[grizzled lance]

You can still move while incapacitated

[harsh hollow]

All you can do is move. x3

[feral fulcrum]

Behold, I move at you, and end my turn. Huzzah, you are defeated.

[grizzled lance]

flies up lands on top of you

[limber trail]

seylune's viper and silvery barbs are also both from setting-specific books - you don't need to play with them and not every table is forced to

[undone rain]

Gun go pew pew

[harsh hollow]

I mean sure but at that point you're hurting yourself too.

[amber echo]

guys i can share my character on D&D beyond?

[grizzled lance]

It also needs to be poisoned which is the most common immunity in dnd

[feral fulcrum]

You could argue that DM's choice applies to every single spell in the game. That doesn't make them immune to critcism.

[limber trail]

I am well and truly critical of both of those spells do not get me wrong

[harsh hollow]

I wonder if type changing features like Scribes Wizard can get around that.

[limber trail]

I'm just also critical of the absurd reactions to them

[grizzled lance]

It doesn’t since it specifies his poison condition

Rather then damage

[feral fulcrum]

If it's Immune to the POisoned Condition, it don't care.

[harsh hollow]

Ahh, I wasn't sure if you could change the damage type of a damage over time effect.

[grizzled lance]

Which is the most common condition immunity in the game

[limber trail]

or the incapacitated condition, which is less common to be immune to but can come up

[grizzled lance]

True

[feral fulcrum]

Nope, you only change Damage types, not any effects or conditions that are applied

[harsh hollow]

"Behold, fire poisoning." "That's just being on fire."

[grizzled lance]

That’s why I don’t see any issue with Sylnes viper especially since a lot of monsters also got auto conditions as well

Spiders being able to auto posion on hit or a bigger case lich being able to auto paralyze on hit

[limber trail]

the spell also ends if you take 15 damage. by level 5 there are enemies who can do that on a single attack.

[harsh hollow]

My main concern was that if you happen to run into a non-immune boss it could turn into a spiral.

[grizzled lance]

By level 3 most definitely

[harsh hollow]

Just keep biting 'em.

[grizzled lance]

A lot of creatures are gonna most likely gonna go before you due to initiate buffs

Unless you build for it

[limber trail]

anyone who's running a single enemy encounter against sylune's viper who doesn't include some way to bypass it, deserves to have that encounter become a spiral

[harsh hollow]

Fair. x3

[grizzled lance]

Example the new assassin has a +10 initiative

[undone rain]

So technically the artificer is basically that "i may be out of spells but im not out of shells" meme basically

[marble lion]

but i think thats why they think so. its not disrespectful dismissal.

nothing personal and certainly not an insult

[harsh hollow]

It depends, this is typically how they're shown in the Eberron type settings though.

[grizzled lance]

It also gives you the auto poisoned condition

[undone rain]

Well usually atleast

[grizzled lance]

The new monster manual made monsters actually dangerous ngl

[limber trail]

at high levels, most enemies have absurd initiatives. Running some enemies this week with +17s and +18s to initiative rolls. It's how it goes.

[harsh hollow]

It was so weird seeing spells like that or the Noble Genie Paladin because they make everything so weak nowadays but there's an occasional little power spike.

[grizzled lance]

Exactly

[harsh hollow]

We're in a weird cycle where a lot of the 1rst party stuff is on the weaker end but it makes the 3rd party stuff they release look extra overtuned.

[grizzled lance]

I mean new monk compared to pugilist 😭

Also the main reason why may be because a lot of stuff was intended for 2014 but the 2024 dropped

Cause a lot of 3rd party publishers that we were gonna stay in 5e for a bit

Example being grim hallow and all there crazy races

[feral fulcrum]

Third party stuff has always been generally poorly balanced.

[grizzled lance]

It’s also suppose to stay within its respective book

Still crazy that a lich can 16d12+10 damage

[limber trail]

How do they deal that much?

[misty socket]

Anyone know how to play DnD online

[grizzled lance]

If they get within 5ft they can use touch which gives you the 3d6+5 cold damage + the paralyzed condition

[rough basalt]

Paralyzing touch then double eldritch burst

[limber trail]

oh right that's fair

[grizzled lance]

Then they could do Eldritch burst which if it hits becomes a crit

[rough basalt]

Let's you body some players who were too high on their horse in 2014

[limber trail]

hadn't thought about the auto crit of it all

[grizzled lance]

So 4d12 x4

[limber trail]

that'd actually be 3d6+16d12+15

[grizzled lance]

And he can COMBO you as well

[rough basalt]

It's awesome

[grizzled lance]

Thats 135 average damage

And if that leaves you below 100 they can hit you with the power world kill

[burnt valley]

The 2024 Lich statblock is an example of melee lul

[grizzled lance]

It’s the strongest melee caster for sure

[mighty wharf]

Are blade ward and detect magic actually good spells?

[grizzled lance]

Blade ward no detect yes

[mighty wharf]

Detect magic can be stopped by like any wall...

[burnt valley]

Nah there's stronger but they are up there

[eager marsh]

Detect Magic was always good. 2024 Blade Ward can be conditionally useful

[grizzled lance]

Name one other creature that can get auto crits on you

[burnt valley]

I love how 2024 creatures screw over martials even harder

[grizzled lance]

And has the spell casting of a lich

[burnt valley]

Acererak

[grizzled lance]

He doesn’t have any melees so not really

Plus his still has a save

Only thing that gives him a “slight” edge is the orb of annihilation which is still a horrible legendary item in 2014

[burnt valley]

He has paralyzing touch

[grizzled lance]

Still has a has a save attached to it through

So while a anybody with con save prof can most likely pass the save the new lich ignores that

[limber trail]

he can only do it once (on his turn), with a con save attached. a lich gets it for free thrice in its multiattack.

[grizzled lance]

This too

[burnt valley]

Fair enough

[limber trail]

players might pass the one and only DC 20 con save, but a lich can for sure hit one of three times using its multiattack

a lich also has more HP and a far better initiative bonus

a lich will likely beat most of the party at initiative and from there can have a much easier time locking down subsequent turns, compared to acerake who only has a +3 and is far more likely to be lower placed

[grizzled lance]

Like sure 3d6 and 1 min of paralyzed is nothing to sneeze at but the new lich if his paralyzing touch his gets to do his other attack which can do 8d12+5 and he gets TWO of those

[burnt valley]

Anyone who says they've fought a Lich in lower tiers means the DM is sandbagging

M*lee martials die instantly to it

[grizzled lance]

Some spell casters might die instantly too

Chain lighting finger of death

[burnt valley]

True, since the majority is low op or mid op

[grizzled lance]

It has dispel magic at will and can cast counter spell or shield as at will

Its legendary actions are meh but again it doesn’t need them

[limber trail]

its legendary actions are still no joke

31 AoE damage isn't very bad at all

[grizzled lance]

Teleport 60 feet con saving throw or 9d6

Or he cast FEAR

Man this really is rigged again melees

[limber trail]

if fear gets off that's a turn gone from the players and prompts an opportunity attack

[novel coyote]

Random question: How would one go about making a character who could wield a ballista like a crossbow?

[limber trail]

give them a heavy crossbow and flavour it as a ballista

[valid geyser]

i guess the main thing is that the lich wont get to use their spells if theyre trying paralyzing touch

[grizzled lance]

16d12+ 10

[limber trail]

Paralyzing touch is honestly good enough the lich barely needs spellcasting

[grizzled lance]

It doesn’t NEED spells

The new lich is a boxer disguised as a spellcaster

[burnt valley]

Fish in mind, line of sight

[limber trail]

it's honestly my criticism of the lich is that it's just too good at melee

[grizzled lance]

Legit this

[novel coyote]

Naaah! I want to be able to open the front door and the back door in the same shot

[grizzled lance]

The Eldritch burst shouldn’t be a melee/ranged

[empty thicket]

Good to the point that being a Fighter//barbarian and getting close is too dangerous?

[burnt valley]

Dont forget monk too

[limber trail]

a barbarian in melee with a lich is going to die

[grizzled lance]

Again if it just slaps you you get the paralyzed conditions

[valid geyser]

yeah eldritch burst prob shouldve been just ranged, and save for the paralysis ofc. Freedom of movement is too uncommon of a spell

[empty thicket]

monk and rogue can use disengages, they can move away

[empty thicket]

damn...

[grizzled lance]

You’d need a freedom of movement or ring of free kovemtn

[burnt valley]

Lich would teleport + move to them

[grizzled lance]

It’s average damage if it’s paralyzing touch lands is 134 damage

[limber trail]

unfortunately not a lot of ways to achieve this naturally. Maybe play a fighter or ranger and build into ranged attacks, but you can't just carry around a ballista. (plus, RAW, trust me, ballistas suck)

[novel coyote]

What about someone with path of the giant with enlarge and a bunch of strength?

[grizzled lance]

It having such an oppressive effect as an auto condition makes the new lich one of the highest damage dealers in the game in 2024

[empty thicket]

yeah but that is to anyone then, too extense scenario.
There is reasons why some martials can either disengage in some way or stand their ground

[valid geyser]

i mean there are a lot of stunlock monsters now

[limber trail]

So if you want to carry around an actual DnD ballista, you will deal 3d10 piercing damage every three rounds with a +6 to hit. Ballistas suck. They take three actions to fire, and do not deal a lot of damage.

[grizzled lance]

Hey but they used the stunned condition not the condition that gives auto crits if an enemy is within 5ft

[prime pewter]

Guys what do you call it when your boyfriends first roll ever is a 20? (Technically it was a 13 but he had advantage so)

[limber trail]

Flavour is free. Take a heavy crossbow and flavour it as a ballista you're carrying. Trust me.

using an actual ballista sucks

[grizzled lance]

Id prefer to use the oversized cross bow

[burnt valley]

Doesnt matter, Lich kites you

[limber trail]

there's also absolutely no rules for using a ballista like that. It's completely homebrew

[grizzled lance]

You need to be a medium creature with at least an 18 in strength it deals 2d6 + strength but still uses dex weirdly enough

[grizzled lance]

Unless your immune to paralyzed your dead

[limber trail]

What item is this?

What's it from?

[empty thicket]

a ballista is too different to a heavy crossbow?

[grizzled lance]

Water deep drain heist

Zirji’s oversized longbow

[limber trail]

dnd has rules for ballistae. They're different to, and almost always worse than, a heavy crossbow

[grizzled lance]

I still think it’s stupid that a character with an 8 in strength can pick up 240 pounds before having to make an athletics check

[limber trail]

The rules for Ballistae, because it seems to be prevalent:

Large Object | Armor Class: 15 | Hit Points: 50

Ballista Bolt (Requires Load and Aim). Ranged Attack Roll: +6, range 120/480 ft. Hit: 16 (3d10) Piercing damage.

A Ballista is a massive crossbow that fires heavy bolts. Loading a Ballista requires the Utilize action, and aiming it requires another Utilize action. Then a crew member can take the Ballista Bolt action.```

[eager marsh]

you mean drag 240 pounds? and move 5ft per round?

[grizzled lance]

Still much more then people can do now a days

[eager marsh]

Many people arent active so they have less strength. And struggling to move that weight is different than comfortably moving it

[limber trail]

i say this as an irl 8 str haver: 240lbs / 100kgs is probably the limit of my ability to drag stuff

[grizzled lance]

That means a commoner can push lift and drag 300 pounds

They can lift 240 pounds but they can’t carry it through

[eager marsh]

the average medeival fantasy commoner is more physically active than the acerage modern pedestrian that doesnt work a hard labor job

[grizzled lance]

Is that not considered super human

[limber trail]

yes that's right

[valid geyser]

i mean i could probably push something like that along. at least a couple feet

[grizzled lance]

But could you lift it

[eager marsh]

you are confusing 'can lift with struggle' with 'can bench press it'

[novel coyote]

But what if you are large enough to wield it like a crossbow?

[valid geyser]

I assume that just for the purposes of the game they didnt wanna make a calculation for deadlifting it

[grizzled lance]

I’m gonna dead lift this boulder

That’s a funny thought

[empty thicket]

Now im curious, could reduce//enlarge a Ballista and use it like a Heavy crossbow most of time but when is needed its enlarged and used like a ballista?

I doubt any Dm would let me do that ngl

[limber trail]

then I'd rule it functions like a heavy crossbow

[limber trail]

how heavy do you think boulders are

[grizzled lance]

It only does 3d10 and you’d need to someone carry around the ammo to do said thing not to mention there is no such thing as a +1 barista

[grizzled lance]

Depends on how big the Boulder is

It’s just a really big rock at the end of the day

I wonder what’s the max a character can lift/carry in dnd

Medium I mean

[empty thicket]

Yeah but i mean, its in concept just made up.
A ballista that is reduced and work like a heavy crossbow(damage and rnage) , but can be enlarged and used like a ballista if its needed.

[grizzled lance]

Even so you’d still need to focus on the spell to keep it reduced which isn’t worth the effort

And again another problem ammo

[novel coyote]

Or what if you are just such a unit you can be at least Large and wield it

[limber trail]

They can lift 900 pounds with a strength of 30 and carry 450 pounds

[novel coyote]

so theres a chance?...

[grizzled lance]

But what about adding something like bear totems can double there lifting capacity and all that

[remote wadi]

Would this stack with Enhance Ability?

[grizzled lance]

Also I don’t think it’s possible to get a 30 in strength

[limber trail]

I don't know how else to frame it - just use a heavy crossbow. There's absolutely no rules supporting what you want to do and let me tell you, the thing you want to do objectively is terrible mechanically. It's not good. You will attack once every three rounds for 3d10 piercing damage

[grizzled lance]

Ehh so/so it just grants advantage so maybe

[empty thicket]

Damn, one cant have fun now in day it seems
Cant even have a whole zoo of small giant animals too, not a Mini ballista, now one will tell me i cant make throwable healing potions and use them like molotovs against undeads /J

[limber trail]

3d10 piercing damage every three rounds sucks at every level of play, even level one

[novel coyote]

Well I'd at least try to fire when the enemies are lined up

[limber trail]

that's not how ballistas work. They attack one single enemy

[remote wadi]

No, the Strength buff for Enhance Ability also doubles carrying capacity

[grizzled lance]

Oh then yes it would

[empty thicket]

yeah, either its buffed against structures or can pierce until 5 enemies

[grizzled lance]

Stack on a race that gives you that via old ork or Goliath

[empty thicket]

or can be used for special fights where the party can either fight the big monster or charge ballistas and kill him

[novel coyote]

How does a log fired at over 250 mph just stop at one target???

[limber trail]

neither of those are true

[limber trail]

I don't know what to tell you, these are the rules of how ballistae work in dnd. I have the rules text open and can re-send it if you want

[grizzled lance]

Because dnd doesn’t follow your logic

[limber trail]

Ballista Bolt (Requires Load and Aim). Ranged Attack Roll: +6, range 120/480 ft. Hit: 16 (3d10) Piercing damage.

A Ballista is a massive crossbow that fires heavy bolts. Loading a Ballista requires the Utilize action, and aiming it requires another Utilize action. Then a crew member can take the Ballista Bolt action.``` This is a Ballista in dnd.

[empty thicket]

Never said it is. Chill.
Said it could so its useful.
Relax.

[novel coyote]

Well as a DM I go for extra

Like an 80s action movie

[empty thicket]

Same.

[grizzled lance]

The only thing that could do that is the arcane archers ability tbh

[limber trail]

at that point if you're going for extra then there's not much point asking for rules that justify this build - just homebrew something

[empty thicket]

Its the beauty of DND, one can change the things slighty to adapt a fantasy or idea or just change them to make it fit their idea

[grizzled lance]

And arcane archer is baaaad

Really bad

[empty thicket]

yeah, the numbers of damage arent bad but only 2 arrows per short rest....

[remote wadi]

Because if it is a literal log, kinetic force rapidly dissipates after contact. Same reason slings can do massive damage to bones and organs, but suck against armor

[prime basin]

use the lightning bolt spell as a base and then give it an ability where per person it hits it a row it may stop, increasing with each person it hits

[grizzled lance]

Wouldn’t that be a dex save rather then a roll to hit?

[prime basin]

there is your ballista, just swap out the dex save for a hit

[grizzled lance]

Yeah cause rolling for each individual enemy would make combat a slog

[prime basin]

Yes, but you could obviously just change it to a roll to hit if you want

[grizzled lance]

Yeah but roll to hits are for single targets through

If you change that it might as well it be dnd anymore

[prime basin]

Not necessairly, take chromatic orb for example

When you hit a creature and at least two of the damage die you roll are the same number, it leaps to another creature if you want it to

[remote wadi]

Exception to the rule

[prime basin]

all it takes is homebrew and adding custom mechanics if you want to see more powerful things

[grizzled lance]

That’s a unique effect of Chomo orb

Not firing a single weapon shot

[remote wadi]

By the way, how useful is Magic Missile, exactly?

[main maple]

Can I see your dice collection?

[grizzled lance]

Another case of people trying to add logic to dnd

[prime basin]

Listen man, this is homebrew stuff...you can literally make anything you want to make it more fun for you and the players. Not every has to be run with official rules in mind

[grizzled lance]

#homebrew

[prime basin]

Maybe you should've said that to the guy who was complaining about ballista bolts in the first place

[grizzled lance]

No that was just a classic case of someone trying to apply our logic to 5e logic

Which 9 times outta 10 won’t work

[prime basin]

Just because its a fantasy world doesn't mean it can't have logic.

[grizzled lance]

I’m not saying it can’t have logic I’m saying it’s logic doesn’t function the same as ours

For example you can’t catapult someone’s heart against there ribcage

[prime basin]

I don't think we need to continue the subject

[novel coyote]

Can you trick a werewolf into playing fetch with a stick of dynamite?

[humble cairn]

A guaranteed damage spell that doesn't care about AC or saving throws? Very useful in certain situations.

[hidden spindle]

Want a way to seal the deal with a downed PC?

Magic Missile

[eager marsh]

almost no creature has Shield natively without teh DM intentionally altering the stat block as well

[grizzled lance]

That’s.. a lie

OH almost

[main maple]

Anyone wanna show off their dice collection? I’m starting mine soon

[eager marsh]

Correct. Almost.

[hidden spindle]

I have 6 sets but prefer digital dice

[main maple]

Can you show me

[hidden spindle]

I cannot

[main maple]

Darn

[hidden spindle]

But Google has a good digital roller

[grizzled lance]

Ehh still it’s only a level 1 spell and giving a creature shield at all that bad

[main maple]

I want physical ones to match my character’s colors

[grizzled lance]

If it can use spell casting I mean

[eager marsh]

Casually giving any creature shield access makes life much harder for the entire party. +5 AC against all attacks is a big deal on the monster side

[grizzled lance]

I just said if it has spell casting

[eager marsh]

many monsters that arent just imitation wizards have racial spells and features now

[prime basin]

I have 5 sets, 1 set of the Fjord Dice, 1 set of the Mollymauk dice, 1 set of this neon green + grey/black dice, 1 set of this bright red + blue/black dice, and 1 set of this dark blue/aqua colored dice

[grizzled lance]

Tough

I said spell casting

[prime basin]

Can't really post pictures of dice here, but they are all really cool looking. Personally the mollymauk one and the dark blue/aqua one roll best for me

[eager marsh]

almost nothing has spellcasting anymore if you're gonna be pedantic. many just have 'cast spell X times per day' instead to simplify them

[hidden spindle]

They even recognized that with Circle Casting

[grizzled lance]

If it can do they why can’t it use shield

Example is it so hard for something like a mind flayer to use shield

[eager marsh]

I didnt say it's hard to do. I meant that it alters teh encounter balance significantly

[loud tendon]

posted our shelves in #merch-and-dice

[barren panther]

mind flayers are scary enough

[grizzled lance]

Only thing that makes them scary is there “mind blast ability”

[eager marsh]

the followup that is often an instant kill is also pretty scary

killed a player that way once and that was without even mind blasting

[grizzled lance]

It’s not an instant kill it’s 10d10

[eager marsh]

I said often. Because of the paralyze crit

[grizzled lance]

If the following does kill the player then it’s brain is removed

[grizzled lance]

Stunned doesn’t do auto crits*

[hidden spindle]

Losing a brain, 'tis just a scratch'

[grizzled lance]

Only if the damage kills them

[eager marsh]

Ah my bad thought it was paralyze. been a bit since i used it. Anyways 10d10 is a lot of damage. thats an average of 60 damage

[grizzled lance]

Otherwise it does 10d10

[eager marsh]

and frequently against a stunned target. so a second extract can be done next turn

[grizzled lance]

It also has to use an action to grapple the target

Which in the new edition is better since it’s a save rather then a check

But extract brain is still a con save

So yeah minf flyers aren’t all that scary tbh

[barren panther]

depends on the party

or the situation. But they definitely can be lol

[eager marsh]

2024 mind flayers are less bad because extract is noe a con save which more people can make instead of int saves but the mind blast still easily messes up most parties

[grizzled lance]

I still think the lich got over buffed

[eager marsh]

Oh i never denied that they're insane

[burnt valley]

Encounter idea: 4-6 BPS immune melee monsters in a 50x50x50 square room but the environmental effect is that all magic items are disabled regardless of rarity

[grizzled lance]

Yeah but only having 99 Hp leave sit on the short end of getting shafted

[grizzled lance]

I feel like an Anti magic field work wonders enough

[burnt valley]

For Tier 1 btw

[grizzled lance]

There’s alright a monster that can kinda do that

[prime basin]

so only spells can damage them?

[burnt valley]

Yes

[prime basin]

So how do the martial characters have fun?

[eager marsh]

So you're just making the martials useless? Seems bad

[burnt valley]

Also Artificers in shambles

[eager marsh]

Kicking the martials who are already kicked usually is poor design imo

[prime basin]

Impossible!

[burnt valley]

Oil + Torch for fire damage

[grizzled lance]

Martial got so many useful things in 2024 only to get shafted even more by the monster deigns lmao

[prime basin]

Oil and torch for fire damage is how you make the martials have fun

[burnt valley]

This will be for Adventurer's League so gold wont be too much of an issue and its balanced for a Lvl 4 character

[grizzled lance]

Are werewolves still immune or are they only resistant

[prime basin]

If I was one of those monsters, I would literally just ignore the martials and kill every spellcaster in the room

[burnt valley]

Nah they lost it altogether

[grizzled lance]

That’s insane

A commoner could beat a werewolf to death 😭

[burnt valley]

Lol

[grizzled lance]

I guess they did get higher ac and higher hp as a result

[barren panther]

I guess it depends on how sentient the monsters are

[burnt valley]

Maybe i should set up an "AI" for them so that they'll focus fire anything thats within their range

[grizzled lance]

I think it’s funny that demi liches are the only creature ever printed that’s resistance to magical BPS

[burnt valley]

Sneak attack attempts LUL

Barbarians LUL

[grizzled lance]

Didn’t even know having magical resistance to +1 +2 +3 was possible

[normal canyon]

guys i got a question. Where's the best possible place to get feedback on homebrews?

like the best of the best possible place

[hushed mason]

Um, #homebrew or reddit?

[grizzled lance]

Why would you say Reddit

[normal canyon]

#homebrew kinda not fit for my specefic homebrew stuff and reddit idk yet

[grizzled lance]

It’s not here that’s for sure

[normal canyon]

yeah

[hushed mason]

Not fit for your specific homebrew? Because...?

[normal canyon]

it breaks at least like 5 core rules (and remakes them) in the least complicated homebrew i've made

and like 5 ppl already told me that they don't really liek it here

[hushed mason]

So you're writing a new game system.

[normal canyon]

nahhhh not a new game system

[hushed mason]

Well, if you didnt' get the feedback you're looking for here, I'd suggest you try reddit or maybe a forum?

[normal canyon]

So like i have a idea, right? and then i try to fit it into the game (and a lot of homebrewers alter/break rules in dnd... though it's usually very minor) and it ends up breaking a lot so i gotta patch it up a lot

and i end up being really complicated. though it's still balanced. i play tested it like 20 times

[hushed mason]

Then why are you looking for more feedback?

[normal canyon]

because idk if there's like a 0.0001% loophole or like a kinda not very good aprt of it

like what happens if someone one shots a tarrasque? (which they actually kinda can already but it's impossible basically)

[hushed mason]

If players from 20 playtests didn't find a loophole, it's probably fine for you to keep using? Like, if the players enjoyed it, why mess around some more?

[normal canyon]

i playtested it myself.

[hushed mason]

That's not playtesting.

[normal canyon]

*sim

[grizzled lance]

What lady said

[marble lion]

isnt it playtesting?

[hushed mason]

Playtesting is with other people, not yourself and chatGPT.

[normal canyon]

i didnt use chatgpt

[hushed mason]

You also didn't use any other people. Go, runa game with your homebrew. Find out what players think.

[normal canyon]

im not a dm

[hushed mason]

Then wtf are you doing all this for?

[normal canyon]

to use in a campaign. i made a class and subclasss

[marble lion]

so you homebrew stuff in DnD while not being the DM

[normal canyon]

is that not normal?

[crimson gulch]

Ask your dm what they think

[hushed mason]

You need to find a DM that likes your homebrew.

[normal canyon]

my dm said i can use it and im already in that campaign

[hushed mason]

So go use it and play.

[crimson gulch]

Then you are golden

[normal canyon]

no one really answered this tho

[hushed mason]

I did, too.

You didn't like my answer.

[loud tendon]

we did.. you just said no to it.

for D&D homebrew feedback #homebrew would be the space

[normal canyon]

what forums

[hushed mason]

IDK if places like enworld and giants in the playground still have forums or not, but back in the day, that's where we would go.

[normal canyon]

ok

[hushed mason]

You could do a google search for "D&D forums" 🙂

[burnt valley]

Where to get feedback on encounters?

[loud tendon]

there is also: https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/homebrew-house-rules

[hushed mason]

Probably #dm-discussion ?

[barren panther]

I don’t know where you’d expect to get homebrew advice other than #homebrew

[hushed mason]

They don't like the advice they got there, though.

[grizzled lance]

Waiter waiter more auto conditions please!

[knotty pasture]

But doesn't your Gambler class defy dnd rules or something last we established

iirc its best if it was straight up used in another ttrpg system or even your own system, or straight up a story

[stark maple]

do yall like the old grapping rules or the new ones more

[hushed mason]

That's probably the feedback they didn't want to hear. :/

[knotty pasture]

True...

[rigid vector]

i added a couple of classes in homebrew i would be willing to hear yalls opinion on

[knotty pasture]

Eh I dunno I think someone has to say it anyways, its like if I suddenly want to incorporate pokemon rules into dnd as part of my homebrew race called Tikazhu

Which has a level 4 spell that has 95 base power

[humble cairn]

New ones by far.

[rigid vector]

new ones hands down

[humble cairn]

New grappling rules make grappling make sense for the correct fantasy archetypes and they make "tanking" more of a reality and they make skirmishing abilities more valuable. It's kind of a fundamental sea change to the melee environment.

[rigid vector]

it makes monk OP

[humble cairn]

Monks are the best at grappling out of all the classes, as it should be.

[rigid vector]

facts

[humble cairn]

There's the #homebrew channel for that.

[stark maple]

does it?

i thought grappling was just a "save" now

8+prof+str/dex

i guess its cause you can replace your unarmed strikes with grapples as well but thats true for anything that can make an unarmed attack with a free hand

granted grappler is a much better feat now so thats a +

[humble cairn]

Grappling is a save, based on unarmed strikes. For Monks, they can use Dex instead of Str for that save dc.

And Monks can make many more unarmed strikes than just about anyone else barring Action Surge.

Monks are the only ones who can get the Grapple+Prone combo going at level 1.

[stark maple]

monks are finally good

[humble cairn]

Grappling and Shoving can now be done with any unarmed strike as well, not limited to the Attack Action like in 2014, which mean Grappling as an OA.

Combined with the fact that the Grappled condition has more teeth now.

[stark maple]

granted the save DC wont be all that high like 13 at level one?

[humble cairn]

Means that a Str melee character can actually deny the ability for an enemy to just waltz past them and approach their allies, making it a true "tanking" ability.

[stark maple]

the creautre still has to fail a dex or savecheck its choice

[humble cairn]

It's normalized to all other saving throw type effects, like spells, rather than being able to be incongruously cheesed with Expertise which is a good thing. And I say that as a former Bard/Rogue who cheesed their Athletics with Expertise.

[fossil hollow]

at least saves tend to have a more grounded or lower bonus than something with expertise. when a monster gets expertise, their bonus tends to be a lot higher

[stark maple]

so its not as strong

[pearl hedge]

i forgot what the checks are for grapple

[stark maple]

its a strength contest at first but then the creature has to use its strengh or dex to leave

[humble cairn]

It's as strong as it should be, which is a normal saving throw DC like against spells. It used to be too easy to get numbers that were almost impossible to beat. That wasn't good.

[rigid vector]

athletics vs either athletics or acrobatics

[fossil hollow]

is this or 2024 or 2014? its other way around for 2024

[pearl hedge]

yeah i think that's much more simplified

[fossil hollow]

and in 2014, its just contested checks everytime

[stark maple]

2024 is just a save

[fossil hollow]

and then checks to escape

[humble cairn]

Less dice rolling. Checking against a save DC is more streamlined and makes more sense.

The whole grappling system is just better and makes more sense.

[stark maple]

i suppose

[pearl hedge]

also less math! not that math is bad it just can get confusing

[stark maple]

i still think a few of the monsters got over buffed for 24 making marials suffer even more then they already were in 2014

[spiral girder]

When did they rework the grappling system

[fossil hollow]

overbuffed? eh

[humble cairn]

I liked grappling in 2014, I like Grappling in 2024 so much better.

[fossil hollow]

2024 ruleset

[spiral girder]

Oh so I’m just late 💔

[humble cairn]

Sorry are we changin subjects? Or did this have to do with Grappling still?

[stark maple]

melees are suffering more then ever in the new rules

[fossil hollow]

eh

[humble cairn]

I don't think so?

Not in my experience, anyway.

[fossil hollow]

i just make sure to hit casters just as hard. monsters can (and should) rush casters

[stark maple]

i monster wise

the lich is not even a caster at this point nor is an lich hag there just melees with the ability to cast spells

[fossil hollow]

and monsterwise, you can optimize their tactics too. i dunno what it is about having to match melee with melee

[humble cairn]

Skirmishing melees are doing pretty great, actually.

[stark maple]

when the lich can get off 134 average damage in 1 turn its kinda silly

[humble cairn]

Cunning Action and Step of the Wind are more valuable now.

[fossil hollow]

its a Cr 21. that was within the threshold of 2014 monsters

[stark maple]

even more so since the int buffs

[stark maple]

not even close

[fossil hollow]

im looking at the dmg numers, youre incorrect

[hushed mason]

ugh. Why is Discord hiding all the messages from @stark maple and saying "message hidden from likely spammer"???!?!?

[stark maple]

Paralyzing Touch. Melee Spell Attack: +12 to hit, reach 5 ft., one creature. Hit: 10 (3d6) cold damage. The target must succeed on a DC 18 Constitution saving throw or be paralyzed for 1 minute. The target can repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns, ending the effect on itself on a success.

[hushed mason]

It makes trying to follow the conversation very annoying.

[fossil hollow]

might want to crack open the 2014 dmg to the creating a monster section

their average dpr is listed as:

141-158

[stark maple]

Multiattack. The lich makes three attacks, using Eldritch Burst or Paralyzing Touch in any combination.

Paralyzing Touch. Melee Attack Roll: +12, reach 5 ft. Hit: 15 (3d6 + 5) Cold damage, and the target has the Paralyzed condition until the start of the lich’s next turn.

[fossil hollow]

in fact, 134 is lower than the assumed dpr for a cr 21 monster

[fossil hollow]

i know what the goddam statblock does

[humble cairn]

This conversation is making me nervous for the fight my group is about to get in with a lich.

[stark maple]

yeah but old lich doesnt even compare to the new one in terms of melee

[fossil hollow]

right. the old lich was made of paper

extremely dissapointing unless youre below tier 3

[stark maple]

even more so since the old one has an ac of 17 and hp of 135

[fossil hollow]

anyway, here's the page to the avg of the Cr calculations

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/dmg-2014/dungeon-masters-workshop#Step1ExpectedChallengeRating

[hushed mason]

IS there anyway to tell discord that @stark maple isn't a spammer so that it stops hiding their messages?

[stark maple]

im trying to

[fossil hollow]

134 dmg is nothing for cr 21.

[stark maple]

alright even so having the ability to paralyze someone and get 2 auto crits is still crazy

[knotty pasture]

My guess is that once Tiamat has stayed for 7 days on the server the tag auto disappears

[fossil hollow]

and? its a cr 21

[spark nebula]

Hello

[knotty pasture]

Its a discord end issue rather than dnd mods being mean

[hushed mason]

It's super annoying.

[stark maple]

i went to discord HQ and ate someones sandwhich

[hushed mason]

Far more annoying than actual spammers. Almost as annoying as slowmode.

[fossil hollow]

it also had a paralyze in 2014 btw. it just needed a DC 18(?) con save

[stark maple]

that it could only do once per turn??

granted the old lich is a joke

[fossil hollow]

mhmm

[stark maple]

the old paraylze took up an entire action to do and it could still fail

[fossil hollow]

if anything, the new version just. hits as expected. youre better off paralyzing the wizard or caster anyway

[stark maple]

i mean doing 16d12 to anyone is bound to almost kill them

[fossil hollow]

mhmm. just what i expected from a lich

good set up before PWKing them to finish it off if they live still

[stark maple]

plus power word kill

the shadow dragon is also pretty oppressive

[fossil hollow]

in anycase, i have a lich and dracolich waiting to demolish a party of level 15s in two weeks. with a potential 2nd phase as the true avatar of the dark dragon god descends upon them to enact the new world order

i hope you get to free hiatea soon

[autumn pendant]

Not for me lol

[humble cairn]

And us with no Cleric to DI Hallow.

[stark maple]

your on a phone then

[fossil hollow]

yeah, unfortunately the closest thing to a cleric with yall cant DI

[stark maple]

the fact that creautres within 60ft of the dracolich cant regen hp is still crazy to me

[fossil hollow]

its well within what a cr... 17? should be capable of

[stark maple]

yeah but thats like an ability never before seen

[fossil hollow]

does turn off ally healing too though... hmm

[stark maple]

turns off all healing

[fossil hollow]

not really?

[humble cairn]

Chill Touch turns off healing.

[stark maple]

thats chill touch

[fossil hollow]

while not outright 60 ft emanations, lots of things turned off healing

[stark maple]

thats not an aura of unhealing

[fossil hollow]

i think some regional effects messe with healing too

[autumn pendant]

Ah my great enemy🥹

[fossil hollow]

in any case... honestly, kinda tame

[stark maple]

regional effects arent a thing in 2024

[fossil hollow]

they are

lair actions are the ones that got removed

[mellow ether]

I have a question

[fossil hollow]

regional effects are still a thing

[mellow ether]

Isutsumiiiiiii

[stark maple]

im thinking of liar actions

[fossil hollow]

thats what i just said yes

[glass granite]

I have an answer

[autumn pendant]

Ask ask

[autumn pendant]

I love your name bro

[glass granite]

Tytyty

[stark maple]

i didnt know kensei monks could use longbows

[spark nebula]

Can someone invite me to the server D&d beyond discord server

[stark maple]

your not gonna believe this

[fossil hollow]

youre right here

[loud tendon]

that is where you are? This is the official server

[fossil hollow]

thats against terms of service

[mellow ether]

Ah

[spark nebula]

Awesome sauce

[glass granite]

And server rules

[mellow ether]

So don’t do that I’m guessing

[glass granite]

Yeah…

[mellow ether]

All g

[stark maple]

is asking against TOS?

[fossil hollow]

yes.

[mellow ether]

Oop

[stark maple]

thats a bit scummy

[fossil hollow]

and against server rules

[stark maple]

that i can understand

[glass granite]

You can do it if you’re in a game with someone

[mellow ether]

Technically I didn’t ask for anyone to do it just asked if I could do it so I’m good?

[fossil hollow]

what

[stark maple]

your good

[echo fractal]

Anyone ever play dnd here

[stark maple]

nope

[glass granite]

Play directly on this server? No

[fossil hollow]

you dont play dnd on this server directly

[loud tendon]

we don't host games on the server anymore.. no. But we have #find-a-game and #looking-for-players to help folks connect

[stark maple]

i like the new solar stat block through its so cool

[echo fractal]

I was mainly being goofy but thanks

Useful still

[stark maple]

Slaying Bow. Dexterity Saving Throw: DC 21, one creature the solar can see within 600 feet. Failure: If the creature has 100 Hit Points or fewer, it dies. It otherwise takes 24 (4d8 + 6) Piercing damage plus 36 (8d8) Radiant damage

it has a mini power word kill

[echo fractal]

I tried playing blood hunter recently and realised I had 0 spells and that stinks I understand the attacks and whatnot but no spells felt capital b Boring

[stark maple]

i dont think blood hunter gets spells

tho past level 7 they are kinda meh

tho the mutant class kinda goes hard being able to increase your and push past your limits

[serene jolt]

There was a draconic sorcerer in our party. He complained after our first encounter out of two that we had to complete that he doesn't have any spell slots. I was confused why he didn't save any of them and he said and I quote "I used a spell slot every turn." I was thinking why? He has cantrips he can use between those. His response "Oh I don't use cantrips because the damage isn't worth it". A sorcerer... Mind you. I don't think he's meant to play spellcasters 🤣

[stark maple]

whats.. the level

[serene jolt]

3. He just started

[stark maple]

alright still

theres a few good cantrips in the game and there not for only damage

[serene jolt]

He refuses to use cantrips at all.

I'm just confused

[stark maple]

he shouldnt be playing a spell caster then

[serene jolt]

I agree. He could have taken true strike or something if he hates the damage so much

[stark maple]

true strike is the worse spell in 2014 ngl

[serene jolt]

2024 obv

[pearl hedge]

does the guy not know of.. firebolt? acid splash.. grease?

[stark maple]

grease is a level 1 spell

[glass granite]

Grease is leveled

[serene jolt]

Not to mention I'm running an Artificer. I have three spell slots and two cantrips. And he has the audacity to complain 🤣

I'm additionally running a spellcasting Artificer.

[stark maple]

even so hes a sorcerer he has the ability to get advantage on all his attacks

he should be the LAST one complaining

[serene jolt]

Yup. And True Strike is a thing if he thinks the damage is bad.

[eager marsh]

you splled Sorcerous Burst wrong

[serene jolt]

Sorcerous burst is also fun

Yeah it is. It's like chromatic orb but cantrip

[stark maple]

whoops was thinking of chromo orb

[serene jolt]

Lol

[eager marsh]

but also 'cast a spell slot every turn' isn't really normal until you're into late tier 2 at least

[serene jolt]

Here I was casting frickin fire bolt and doing a measly 3 damage 🤣 And he was complaining

[stark maple]

just get feats that give you the ability to cast spells for free

[knotty pasture]

Even at late tier 2 I still find myself throwing cantrips for the most part

[eager marsh]

depends on which class and spells to be fair

[stark maple]

You gain the ability to align your consciousness with the endless calculations of Mechanus. As a Bonus Action, you can enter this state for 1 minute. For the duration, attack rolls against you can’t benefit from Advantage, and whenever you make a D20 Test, you can treat a roll of 9 or lower on the d20 as a 10.

WOO! i never miss

[feral fulcrum]

No, you can still definitely miss.

[jovial shadow]

Yeah you can't treat a 1 as anything but a 1

[stark maple]

yeah but you can also give your self advantage so 1 in 400

[feral fulcrum]

And that's there's still plenty of things with high enough AC that it's still not a gaurentee.

[stark maple]

• the blood wail vial is still a very good options for sorcerers

[feral fulcrum]

Mind you, I'm not saying it's not strong, just that it's not impossible to miss.

I want it to be Saturday already, the Fae shennagins must go on.

[autumn pendant]

I nod as i dont understand a single thing

[stoic haven]

I wanna play my Fae Ranger / Dream Druid Character combo (2 different PCs for 2 players)

Also, agreed, Druid and Warlocks are my most played classes

[marble lion]

I did not expect that answer but thank you very much

[river stream]

hello D&D community!

[marble lion]

I guess its time i watched it

[autumn pendant]

Delicious in dungeon! Its on netflix, they cook monsters there and this character which i forgot the name off shows in the last episodes so yeah

[autumn pendant]

I only watched it because the food looked good

[autumn pendant]

HALLOO

Ok its too quiet

We need a conversation so i can read smth guys

Oup

[native junco]

I've started a Backrooms campaign

[river stream]

i wanna play a campain as a moth character.

[glass granite]

What was the thing yall struggled the most with when you learned dnd?

[autumn pendant]

YO THATS SO COOL

[eager marsh]

finding a group

[native junco]

Indeed

[serene jolt]

Spells

[barren panther]

Encounter building

[autumn pendant]

Played once recommend

[native junco]

Its going pretty good

[autumn pendant]

I cast seducing the door

[native junco]

Only two PC deaths so far

[serene jolt]

Like what spells are good? What spells aren't worth taking? What cantrips are useful? When to use the spells? It was such a challenge for me.

[autumn pendant]

OHH THAT WAS A QUESTION

[native junco]

Depends on DM but create destroy water

Is OP

[glass granite]

Oh that’s an answer I haven’t heard

[serene jolt]

I am good at choosing spells now but that was a struggle when I started.

[glass granite]

I played a monk so no spells needed for meeee

[serene jolt]

I played a bard as my first 💀

[autumn pendant]

Everything (im learning) especially with a bad dm!!! If someone's playing for the first time find a dm willing to help you not a dm that will shoo you and use your charscter as a heal and shields for the group!!

[marble lion]

Right because drowning definitely doesnt take way too long

[native junco]

Interested? I love talking abt it

[serene jolt]

I was low key absolutely terrible at it

[autumn pendant]

I know almost nothing abt dnd like the counting and stuff but yeah i can

[marble lion]

Oh yeah wed love to hear about it

[autumn pendant]

Just drink the water.

[glass granite]

I have nowhere near the back rooms knowledge to do one, but maybe I could do an SCP one shot…

[pearl hedge]

create food and drink!!!

[marble lion]

Medieval scp campaign

[glass granite]

Heck yeah

[native junco]

So basically: Liminal Earth is my knockoff of the backrooms, and right now I'm running two groups of people Mondays and Fridays and only two deaths so far so they're doing alright

It's incredibly fun, and some of the stuffs I've cooked up is pretty terrifying

[serene jolt]

Shape water.

Bring a cube of water above someone's head. Freeze it. Watch them take tons of damage from an entire block of ice falling on their head. /joking

🤣

[autumn pendant]

How the hell are you a dm, when i read dm's groups etc im like.. What the hell is this conversation even about..

[autumn pendant]

.. Im using that even if i cant

[native junco]

I try to be to the point

👍😁👍

[hardy bobcat]

Who would be your worst monster kept in there? A Tarrasque?

[autumn pendant]

...valid

[marble lion]

It would be new stuff

[autumn pendant]

My math teacher or smth

[native junco]

The Zlepper

[marble lion]

And in one mission you have to either misinform or assassinate volo because hes getting nosey

(Oh yes youre on the foundations payroll)

[remote wadi]

Ehhh, that is a good point. A niche, but a decent one

[native junco]

So anyhow: entities are now called Beings, levels are now called Layers, and there are three Factions available atm in The Safe Place

[glass granite]

It’s guaranteed damage, that’s usually a good thing

[remote wadi]

Also, since it is several attacks, would it count as only 2 fails against death saves?

[serene jolt]

It's very useful for finishing off fleeing parties or against a creature who has proven to have high saves and ac.

[glass granite]

Each missile is two fails

[remote wadi]

So spell = death

[glass granite]

It’s deadly as hell against those who are down yeah

[autumn pendant]

Damn thats harsh

[serene jolt]

Also... A fun thing is if your subclass has a feature that allows you to add a modifier to one of your damage spells.

[marble lion]

Why

[hardy bobcat]

What would be their name? Something like the Anomaly Observation Collective?

[glass granite]

Is it not?

[severe rampart]

Could be different for everybody since SCPs are so diverse, but probably the most deadly would be a virus things that infects minds, sort of like from the movie "Invasion of the body snatchers"

[serene jolt]

Like the Maverick Artificer for example. I'm sure there are others.

[marble lion]

Only melee attacks are autocrits (2 save fails) 2014

[glass granite]

I thought any damage was two failed saves

[hardy bobcat]

Oh those would be a nightmare to deal with. This campaign idea’s really cool

[glass granite]

I could be wrong tho it’s been a while since I’ve looked at this rules

[marble lion]

In 2014, no
Crits are 2
Melee autocrits on you so 2

[remote wadi]

But regular damage is still a failed save?

[serene jolt]

And I could be wrong but I also think you have to be within 5 feet of the creature as well.

[remote wadi]

That, if memory serves, is to get advantage on an attack

[glass granite]

Ah mb I’m wrong, you are correct

[marble lion]

Anything that deals damage takes 1 or 2 saves, depending on if crit

[serene jolt]

Oh right you're right

[marble lion]

Missile still oneshots downed because its 4 missiles right?

[remote wadi]

So at the end of the day, doesn't matter because that's 3 missiles at base

[autumn pendant]

What if hes left

[marble lion]

Im not

[autumn pendant]

Hmm are you sure

[serene jolt]

Oh man I'm so sorry for assuming your direction

[remote wadi]

3, apparently. Still denies death saves

[spark nebula]

Some one needs to make a book how to make a D&d character for dummies

[remote wadi]

Now, I should ask

Is it even worth it to upcast Magic Missile vs alternatives?

[autumn pendant]

FRRRR

[native junco]

Gwyndoll shoots 3 missiles per spell and 3 spells per turn in an infinite hallway where the players can only try to duck behind large columns but some turn out to be Columimics

[remote wadi]

Sorry, what?

[native junco]

So yeah. That's a very fun Layer with a very fun name

[feral fulcrum]

I beleive that's called the PLayers Handbook.

[spark nebula]

What does FRRR mean

[marble lion]

No but youtube has dummies videos

[autumn pendant]

For real

[glass granite]

On niche occasions

[marble lion]

Fr means forgotten realms, a dnd setting

[jovial shadow]

yeah 5% on each dice. So 5% x 5%

[severe rampart]

Jocat's video is pretty accurate for it

[marble lion]

Yup

[autumn pendant]

OHHH IM SORRY I WAS USING A SHORTEN SENTANCE DIDNT KNOE IT MENT SMTH

[severe rampart]

A Crap Guide to DnD: Character Sheets

[remote wadi]

Also, I forgot to update you on something

[spark nebula]

Send me the link in dm plz

[feral fulcrum]

No allcaps please.

[autumn pendant]

Sorry.. Gulp

[native junco]

Gwyndoll shoots 3 missiles per spell and 3 spells per turn in an infinite hallway where the players can only try to duck behind large columns but some turn out to be Columimics. Idk how else to say it mannnnnnn

[remote wadi]

You ever have one of those moments where a small problem could have been avoided if they remembered they had something?

[glass granite]

Plenty

[native junco]

Always

[remote wadi]

No idea what you're saying

[autumn pendant]

Omg yes

[native junco]

Being in a Layer in my Backrooms campaign

[remote wadi]

It took me a month to remember to tell this to my paladin because I kept rolling nat 1s on intelligence checks for memory

[marble lion]

What...

[remote wadi]

Well, several weeks. Felt like a month

[autumn pendant]

Ughhh if i just had that key i saw 3 months ago i would be able to get out damnnnn..

[marble lion]

Oh you mean irl memory

[feral fulcrum]

Well, obviously, They're hardly talking about computer memory.

[glass granite]

Could be in character memory

[marble lion]

No i thought they meant their dm demands int rolls for the character remembering something

[remote wadi]

TLDR: Paladin tells me that they would struggle against werewolves because they wouldn't have access to physical damage

And I finally reminded her that she has Channel Divinity: Sacred Weapon

[marble lion]

You lack context so you wont understand why i assumed that

[remote wadi]

IRL. My memory is garbage during work week

[marble lion]

Bloodline has been telling this chat for months about every bad thing that their dm did so i could see them forcing dice rolls to be allowed to tell a char something

[remote wadi]

We still are deciding to do another side quest first because possibly getting level 6 would be a good bump in power for all of us

[marble lion]

But luckily it was a joke this time

[remote wadi]

Ehh, campaign is pretty chill now

[marble lion]

Glad to hear that

[remote wadi]

For now, at least

[hushed mason]

We all are glad to hear that.

[marble lion]

Indeed

[autumn pendant]

What are we all glad to hear about..

[remote wadi]

The main thing is that I completely overlooked 2 homebrew rules that give a considerable buff to common Ranger shenanigans

[glass granite]

That Bloodline’s campaign is chill now

[autumn pendant]

Lucky

[remote wadi]

1. The ability to use passive scoring for ability checks that you could reasonably take your time with

[autumn pendant]

I need to go to sleep cuz i dont understand a word

[remote wadi]

2. Dual Wield BA now gives 2 extra unmodified attacks instead of 1

[remote wadi]

There were quite a bit of homebrew rules in the campaign I am in

[autumn pendant]

Ohhh

[marble lion]

Hes saying instead of rolling dice for ability checks, he can take 10+modifier

[remote wadi]

For that first roll, things like Survival, perception, and lockpicking checks could be a 10 base if you can reasonably take it slow

[marble lion]

So he never has to risk rolling a 1 while doing something easy

[remote wadi]

Well, specifically doing something slow, not always easy

[autumn pendant]

Ngl we all rolled 1 when doing smth easy. Right....?

[marble lion]

Not yet actually no

[autumn pendant]

So im just unlucky

[marble lion]

But i did nat1 my first arrow shot in dnd in 2021 and my dm made it hit my teammate

[remote wadi]

Anyways, the other part is that instead of the normal Dual Wielding that gives you an unmodified attack for a BA

It's 2 attacks now

[autumn pendant]

LOLL

[hushed mason]

"Taking ten" was a 3.5 thing.

[remote wadi]

I have silvered shortswords and a hand crossbow

[marble lion]

For the rest of his campaign my elf who grew up training with the bow had to listen to ppl insulting his aim

I discourage fumble rules like that

[autumn pendant]

POOR BABY BRO

[marble lion]

It wasnt fun to shoot my ally just cuz i got the 5% chance

At least make it not hurt the chars party like damn

[autumn pendant]

Na id laught my ass off ngl and maybe say sorry..

[marble lion]

In character, the party almost kicked me

[autumn pendant]

Valid crash out...

[marble lion]

Didnt feel very nice to me to be "tolerated" just because the dm found it funny

[autumn pendant]

Ok that might not be funny

[remote wadi]

By the way, another update

For when I eventually find another good 2014 campaign, working on a Sorcadin modeled after a character i play in another game

Subclasses will be Oath of Glory and Wild Magic

And yes. I am also picking 2014 just for the sheer chaos at tier 2 and mainly 3

[marble lion]

Yeah dont make ppl feel like a liability just for that 5% chance please

[dreamy crag]

theres no non-ai champaign im crine😭😭😭

[marble lion]

Wat

[autumn pendant]

I KNOWS THAT PROFILE PICTURE

[dreamy crag]

every group i joined used ai for their characters bro im fried

[marble lion]

Most campaigns i imagine arent ai

[remote wadi]

Meanwhile, I could potentially make everyone suffer from a 5% chance

[dreamy crag]

👀👀👀👀👀👀

[autumn pendant]

What why

[marble lion]

Thats a shame

[barren panther]

Eww

[autumn pendant]

U reminded me of that muffin song

[hushed mason]

My last character image was made in The Sims.

[autumn pendant]

What

[dreamy crag]

peak🙏

[remote wadi]

I don't think mine has any. Even if it did, it's very rarely used and everyone is chill with it

[autumn pendant]

Srs

[barren panther]

Using ai for your character

[dreamy crag]

they use ai for their character designsssssss most of what i joined though which is like. 90% of it.

[marble lion]

I gotta say i roll my eyes at ai portraits but i think its not that big a deal in a homegame

[autumn pendant]

Fr i mean i dont like it and i dont due it but just bc i dont agree with using that i dont push it down people's throat

[dreamy crag]

not the best but not the worst. maybe im biased. bbh is my goat tho maybe i am biased.

[marble lion]

I prefer describing but most people are bad at imagining

So wanting a visual seems fair to me

[barren panther]

Ah I didn’t realize we were talking just portraits

[autumn pendant]

I have bbh cosplay in rblx from 2020 and skeppy was well lolll

[dreamy crag]

blehhh and most of the champaigns i want to join dont have my timezone. ifs so sad i js cry lwk.

[marble lion]

And its unrealistic to force everyone to spend a weeks meals on a commission or to learn drawing themselves imo

[barren panther]

Like using chat gpt to generate a backstory or something seems grosser

[autumn pendant]

I would say id do art for free for u but then i remembered i have 3 commissions to finnish

[remote wadi]

I heard Roblox. Time to roll initiative

[dreamy crag]

yikes dude.

[dreamy crag]

🥹 ❤️‍🩹

[marble lion]

Yeah thats pretty sad but again

[autumn pendant]

Im og i played since 2018

[coarse wyvern]

heys im completely new to dnd but i wanna play and it sounds fun how do i play / find a group

[dreamy crag]

theres achannel for that

[autumn pendant]

Make a character first or smth idk im new also..

[marble lion]

It feels a bit off to me to be harsh to someone for struggling with a skill
Drawing, writing
And not having the financial means to get it done elsewhere

[barren panther]

#dnd-newcomers

[autumn pendant]

Yup

[remote wadi]

Good for you. It still sucks pretty badly, though

[coarse wyvern]

mkay

[marble lion]

You dont have to make a char

Usually, its best to make the character once you know what game youre joining

[autumn pendant]

Nowdays yes, i hate all the weird ass edaters and the chat thing? Bro i got put in +21 and im not even above 18!! And thry call it keeping the children safe

[remote wadi]

Also, I will get this out of the way. Why does Glory Paladin getting Guiding Bolt feel massive?

[autumn pendant]

I wanted to say that and i thought i said that

[marble lion]

Otherwise youre showing up to a bbq with a cherry cake

[dreamy crag]

oh well. not using ur own creativity in a creativity based game is just an ick to me. i just sigh in dissapointment and leave the server if i see them usimg ai on "character drawing" channels.

[autumn pendant]

I need to go to sleep..

[hushed mason]

Cake is always good.

[autumn pendant]

Ngl i want cake

[marble lion]

I do sigh as well. Just trying to be kind about it

I suffered through a dms heavy ai usage enough to know im not a fan

Thank you for the emojis. I needed that

[cobalt owl]

You're welcome

[autumn pendant]

I add emojis when i wanna say smth but idk what

[marble lion]

Yes some things are so terrible they leave us speechless

[autumn pendant]

Your whole profile is so comfy wth

[autumn pendant]

No i just arent used to having conversations lol

[marble lion]

My pfp and your background. Harmony

[autumn pendant]

Steal his background

[remote wadi]

Asking this again

[keen kestrel]

I might be crazy, but I really dislike guiding bolt ngl

[cobalt owl]

No I'm with you on that one

[keen kestrel]

Like it's a good spell

[blissful ibex]

it's fine, it's just way overhyped as a spell

[keen kestrel]

but I just... don't like casting it I guess

[blissful ibex]

it's 14 average damage and advantage on 1 attack

[cobalt owl]

Its only ok on a paladin because paladins don't get a lot of ranged options that don't suck base

[keen kestrel]

tbf, you can just carry some throwing weapons around

and you can still smite on them I guess

[blissful ibex]

Can throw twice even with handaxes if using the light property

also lets you vex chain

[rough basalt]

Getting ready to run my 2nd 5e game.

[severe rampart]

Hey, real quick, just wondering, what's the best CR 6 demon to summon with "Summon Greater Demon", cause last session I summoned an Echo of Demogorgon and it didn't do jack 💔

[stark maple]

Chasme and Vrock

[mighty wharf]

To be fair, I want to play DnD for the combat, the character stories, and the narrative moments. I'm not really an artistic person, not in the drawing sense, and I don't have the money for a commission.

I'm not going to have an AI portrait though. What I'd probably do is find some art on the internet I like and credit the artist.

[barren panther]

In the past I’ve just not had a character portrait in that case, haha. I know it’s different with online play nowadays

[cobalt owl]

Its really funny to me that Tiamat the dark lady shows up as "likely spammer" for me

[dreamy crag]

if u ask for permission for the artist and credit it, then i have no problem w that lmao.

[stark maple]

its cause im evil

[rough basalt]

Yeah I wonder why it's doing that

I'm guessing cause she's Tiamat

This post was made by Bahamut gang.

[mighty wharf]

Yeah let me go find someone's discord or message them through twitter like some kind of stalker

[dreamy crag]

haha what

[stark maple]

i know many twitter artist and they would be happy to draw you a picture

[mighty wharf]

For MONEY

[barren panther]

Draw a stick figure

[dreamy crag]

omg bruh

[stark maple]

i get a friends and family discount (Free)

[knotty pasture]

Make a character on bg3 and screenshot it

[mighty wharf]

I just won't have a portrait.

[keen kestrel]

yo, that's such a cool idea

[barren panther]

Or Hero Forge, or is that frowned upon too

[knotty pasture]

HeroForge is safe

[stark maple]

very limited because bg3 doesnt have a lot of 5e races

[keen kestrel]

eh, you can mod it pretty easily to add a lot of random races

[blissful ibex]

and hero forge doesn't cover everything either

[mighty wharf]

Even though all of my friends are probably going to use portraits of people's work without asking or even crediting them because none of them are art people and don't understand that it's rude to use someone's art even if they post it publicly.

[stark maple]

race mods are only for PC and a lot of the mods are still only have stuff like assimar and such

like if i wanted to play any almost any monsterous race

[barren panther]

Simple don’t be a Harengon or whatever 😉

[stark maple]

how limiting

[barren panther]

/j

[stark maple]

like i mainly play goblins which there is a race for but i also enjoy thri kreens

[barren panther]

My favorite pc of all time was an Aaracokra so I really can’t talk smack

[urban bolt]

I wish i had somebody i could just practice roleplaying my character with outside my party. sigh

[stark maple]

why cant you

[urban bolt]

...because i don't have anyone to? Like i said?

[stark maple]

i mean by yourself

[urban bolt]

That wouldn't help much.

[knotty pasture]

Outside of overly exotic races I think it works in bg3

[urban bolt]

@blissful ibexDamn, i can't be in this server without seeing you istg LMAO

[knotty pasture]

Goliaths can be made with a large human frame + funky skin color tones that reflect actual Goliaths

[stark maple]

how is half orc"over exotic"

[knotty pasture]

I never said Half Orcs are?

[stark maple]

thats one of the races that isnt a mod or base game

[knotty pasture]

Uhh bg3 does have Half Orcs at base

[barren panther]

I was gonna say

[knotty pasture]

Not full Orcs but they look close enough to Half Orcs so

[blissful ibex]

basically only PHB species in that game without mods, and even then, the mods are mostly the more standard humanoids with a few outliers like kobold which has several in game models to use for it

[stark maple]

alright Tabaxi

[urban bolt]

Weirdly enough,i've found tonight that taking a notebook, and just writing down any character trait/bond/flaw/ideal/etc that comes to mind as i write, is incredibly effective. I've narrowed down his flaws quite nicely i believe, or at least the main ones. There's enough play with them too that it feels genuinly unique.

[knotty pasture]

There's a Tabaxi mod I think, I'll double check

But if it doesn't work I was just gonna give a human yellow skin and call it a day

[stark maple]

the plasmoid mod is really ugly

[knotty pasture]

Oh wait there are Tabaxi mods, nice

[urban bolt]

Body shaming in 2026?

[stark maple]

it looks like a lump of pus bubbles

it also doesnt have the ability to become humanoid

[knotty pasture]

Yeah if there's anything I hate about custom race mods its that a lot of them don't respect 5e RAW

[urban bolt]

That would be pretty hard to code as a mod i guess

[knotty pasture]

Aasimar mods are all overtuned to a fault

[harsh hollow]

I like that plasmoids don't seem like they'd be conventionally attractive. The art suggests they don't even have faces, a nice bit of variety compared to Goo Girl depictions.

[stark maple]

bedies stuff like centaur chaglings kenku kobold

[urban bolt]

@blissful ibex How will you react to these allegations?

[stark maple]

lizard folk

[drifting fox]

having a character you really want to play but no campaign to play him in feels like sisyphus nearing the top of the mountain

[harsh hollow]

What have I been roped into. x3

[knotty pasture]

Changelings are recreatable cuz there's an Orin face mod so you can just use that as a reference

[urban bolt]

That's why you make it the bbeg of a one-shot :)

[drifting fox]

that wouldn't work

[knotty pasture]

Centaurs are unfortunately a no go lol the coding requirements are too rough and its too hard to port them over RAW

[urban bolt]

Why is that?

[stark maple]

exactly

[drifting fox]

because he's not evil😅

[harsh hollow]

There's nothing wrong with Goo girls per say but there's so much room for variety it feels like doesn't get explored.

[urban bolt]

Bah

[blissful ibex]

TBF the official art is kinda silly for them c:
But flavor is free >:3

[mighty wharf]

I want to Gaseous Form a BBEG

[urban bolt]

They look like jello to me

Which is pretty much the point i guess?

[mighty wharf]

I know exactly how I'd do it

[harsh hollow]

The art and descriptions make them seem less like an entire goo and more like large amoeba.

[mighty wharf]

I'd use so many resources, but it'd be funny as hell

[stark maple]

and again to use race mods youd need a pc that can rn BG3 which not every one has

[urban bolt]

What are y'alls' methods for fleshing out character personalities?

[drifting fox]

plasmoids in all official art i've seen are just kind of loosely humanoid shaped amorphous blobs

[urban bolt]

...well you wouldn't be looking for race mods if you can't download bg3

[harsh hollow]

Body language is a big one, in addition to trying to give them hobbies different from your own.

[blissful ibex]

they're literally just sapient oozes that can temporarily take a vaguely humanoid shape

[dreamy crag]

put them in multiple random scenarios and just. connect them.

[drifting fox]

give them a shard of yourself

[mighty wharf]

A combination of Suggestion and Gaseous form.

[knotty pasture]

If your pc can't handle bg3 its best to just stick to HeroForge

[drifting fox]

insert a part of your soul into every character you play- or just make a playlist

music helps a lot with defining how you want your character to act

[stone panther]

the official art looks like bubble buddy from spongebob to me

[stark maple]

he was saying use bg3 to make your character instead of comming an artist

[barren panther]

Make them caricatures of characters or personalities from other IPs or real life

[harsh hollow]

Like I think it's important to give them little quirks, descriptions of how they move. If you're not already doing a voice maybe describe the tone you're going for at least.

[urban bolt]

I'm struggling a little with body langauge, because my character is quiet, and usually always vigilant for danger, so i feel like a broken record saying "watching the sightlines" fives times in a session. yes, i counted.

[harsh hollow]

That's part of why I like the depiction of plasmoids as faceless, if you stick to that you're obligated to use things other than expression.

[stark maple]

i still wanna know how a plasmoid can speak common but a thri kreen cant

[drifting fox]

plasmoid miming his feelings to the party

[urban bolt]

Oh yeah, if you have bg3, that works pretty well

[drifting fox]

cuz they're nasty lil bugs

[harsh hollow]

I think the description said their mandibles just literally can't do any language other than their own.

[stark maple]

that is a LEGIT pile of slime

[urban bolt]

Otherwise heroforge, or just finding something online that works.

[lucid agate]

does an entire dnd campaign usually follow one long story like exploring a village and fixing some stuff or something or is it like multiple smaller stories

[blissful ibex]

plasmoids can form pockets of air in their bodies, It's how their hold breath works, they use that to talk

[drifting fox]

don't be goopist

[barren panther]

Depends on the dm

[urban bolt]

Depends, usually a mix IME

[barren panther]

And what they want to do

[harsh hollow]

There's usually an overarching narrative with room for side stuff depending on what the DM has in mind.

[urban bolt]

Alot of questions in D&D are infuriatingly answered by "depends on your table"

[stark maple]

how is that good when you need to spend 70 dollars as well as have a good enough pc 😭

[urban bolt]

It's good if you have bg3

[stark maple]

to run bg3 with mods

[drifting fox]

the base game is 60 actually but you can get it cheaper

[urban bolt]

Or free via steam library

[barren panther]

True, it in those cases there’s kinda no wrong answer which is cool

[harsh hollow]

I think the idea of Thri-kreen telekinesis is interesting because how do they decide what their telekinetic "voice" sounds like? It's not altered by their biology.

[mighty wharf]

So wait, what are the rules for discussing like, book content here that isn't the PHB? Like, are you able to discuss other spells and classes and stuff? Would I be able to post a screenshot of my character builder that isn't DND beyond?

[stark maple]

you still need a dcent pc to run it

[lucid agate]

so like i could have a big final goal of like blank a great blank but i could have like "oh to do that you need to blank this but also oh no! you found blank and you cant just ignore it"