dnd-discussion

[halcyon bison]

Those aren't bad ideas either

[worn lagoon]

I would've opted for a celestial warlock with a moon dog patron

[valid geyser]

champion fighter, obviously

[livid brook]

does it matter if i use a Lance over a maul. both can deal a max of 12 dmg

[turbid vessel]

the 1 non-magic guy to juxtapose the very magical and mystical party is always a fun dynamic

[valid geyser]

yeah, I'm playing a human thief rogue in a party consisting like all of planetouched full casters (tiefling warlock, goliath druid, dhampir sorc) so i feel that

[turbid vessel]

i'm currently a battlemaster in a party of a bladesinger, paladin, warlock, and mercy monk

[valid geyser]

if/when that guy dies I'll probably join up with them and play an elements monk who's either air genasi or PHB24 aasimar

also i didnt even notice that phb24 aasimar can choose the celestial revelations effect every time they do it. I'm not sure how to feel about it from a flavor standpoint but it is mad versatile

[severe rampart]

what type

[livid brook]

wdym

[severe rampart]

what damage type, and what type of maul/lance

[livid brook]

basic maul/lance? idk what you mean

[severe rampart]

if you prefer Piercing, Lance, if you like Bludgeoning, Maul

[turbid vessel]

they both have similar damage, yeah! remember tho that a (2014) lance has disadvantage on attacking enemies within 5 feet

[valid geyser]

im p sure 2024 lances are d10 now

[severe rampart]

also, I'd get the maul

[turbid vessel]

indeed, but they specified d12 so i assumed they were talking about 2014

[severe rampart]

out of combat, it's also a tool for hammering nails

[valid geyser]

and if youre using phb24 topple is just the best weapon mastery so mauls are good

oh lances are topple too

[atomic kayak]

Topple my beloved

I do love push as well tho

[turbid vessel]

trident best weapon, thrown weapon with topple 🤌

[main maple]

I love you dnd

[tardy bronze]

I have a trident

[valid geyser]

also at least the main difference between a 1d12 and 2d6 weapon is consistency. with a d12 weapon youre as likely to roll a 1 for damage as any other number, but 2d6 is weighted more toward the average, and at least in 2014 barbarians preferred d12 weapons because brutal critical would add another d12 isntead of another d6 so more damage but brutal critical sucked

[atomic kayak]

Shovemaster my beloved (Shieldmaster + Push mastery, with Battlemaster if you want extra push)

[jovial shadow]

Lances are pretty long. Unless you have a mount, it's going to be issue hauling it around everywhere.

[tardy bronze]

As a secondary weapon though my main is a greataxe

[severe rampart]

0.027% or 8.33% to roll a 12 for damage though, if I'm not wrong

[turbid vessel]

barbarian + battlemaster w/ shieldmaster

[atomic kayak]

indeed barb also works!

[valid geyser]

pretty sure its 2.7% not .027 but yeah

[atomic kayak]

Being able to push someone 30ft when you hit them (or 25 + prone) is just really neat

[rugged hawk]

Barb only works at casting Greataxe and screaming fury

[livid brook]

is there an official rule on how electricity works in water. dm couldnt find anything in the moment last session

[jovial shadow]

No

[atomic kayak]

Its Warhammer only unless you are playing a fighter at level 9 (where they can use Push regardless of the base mastery of the weapon)

[atomic kayak]

Electricity does not do anything special in water no

[livid brook]

ok thanks!

[delicate owl]

It can, if the DM wanted to, using the Example Hazards to build such a hazard that may exist

[rugged hawk]

Logically, probably just halve the damage for anyone within 10ft of impact if they're in affected liquid.

[delicate owl]

But offiically, no such thing exists

[valid geyser]

yeah there should be rules on how to make your own hazard/trap

[livid brook]

there was just alot of water in the area and i didnt have a weapon in combat so my only option was to use shocking grasp or play support xD

[atomic kayak]

It is somewhat sad how little people utilize traps in their games

And I'm not just saying this because I think Find Traps is overhated

[delicate owl]

Wel there is for traps.

[jovial shadow]

They do in the DMG

[livid brook]

who needs find traps when you can just cast fireball in a confined room /j

[boreal moth]

Hi, I'm using Google Translate, do you know when the Brazilian Portuguese language will be implemented in D&D Beyonder?

[rugged hawk]

Found something.

The giant lightning eel has an ability you might be able to adapt. It basically has an 11th-level shocking grasp on land, but in water it affects everything within 15 feet with that same 3d8 damage rather than only one creature it touches

[livid brook]

oh cool

ok 1 this thing seems broken as is.

[rugged hawk]

As a potential alternative, could just give Disadvantage on electric saves underwater, and leave AoE potential to the spell itself.

[livid brook]

Javelin of lightning is crazy

When you hurl it and speak its command word, it transforms into a bolt of lightning, forming a line 5 feet wide that extends out from you to a target within 120 feet. Each creature in the line excluding you and the target must make a DC 13 Dexterity saving throw, taking 4d6 lightning damage on a failed save, and half as much damage on a successful one

who made this??

[idle oar]

The SRD materials (the free stuff) are now translated into other languages. I don't believe a Portuguese translation has been created and I do not know if one is planned.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/srd

[rugged hawk]

Sounds exactly like my primary attack skill in Xenoblade Chronicles X

[valid geyser]

I mean 4d6 damage is like, a first level spells worth of damage. It's good but it 's not really OP I'd say

[livid brook]

this is just guaranteed 24 dmg if i use destructive wrath

theres gotta be some kind of cooldown on this

the weapon not destructive wrath

[rugged hawk]

Actually.... it's not as OP as it sounds. It's 1/day use, and the javelin does NOT have a Returning feature, so you need to actually go retrieve it each throw.

[valid geyser]

there is. after the sentence you put it says once per day

the world would be whole if wotc had the guts to give tempest cleric lightning bolt

they were too scared to port it to 2024 because theyd basically have to do it

[livid brook]

ah

so what you're saying is. i need to get 10 of em

[rugged hawk]

What I'm saying is this javelin is useless underwater, because you'd lose it to the depths if you actually throw it, whether you hit or miss.

[livid brook]

unfortunate

[rugged hawk]

Also incredibly easy to misplace depending on environment you're throwing it in, like a swamp, or near a cliff.

[livid brook]

dont suppose tempest cleric gets access to lightning lure or smthn

[rugged hawk]

Or someone else could just scoop it up, it's not an attuned item.

[valid geyser]

also wouldnt casting a second level shatter with destructive wrath also do 24 damage?

[tardy bronze]

I got myself a trident for the ha ha funny

[rugged hawk]

I've got a Trident of Warning, much superior

[tardy bronze]

I don't think that ones suitable for a lvl 1 Goliath Fighter

[livid brook]

so id need to play an artificer/warlock so i can have it auto return

too bad i have poor int/cha

[rugged hawk]

Or ask your DM if there's some way you could get the Returning property on your weapon

[livid brook]

eh its fine

gonna see if i can convince my DM to give me brass knuckles

[rugged hawk]

In my case, my char has 3 bonus weapon proficiencies. I traded two of them to let me Return my trident.

[livid brook]

yay violence :D

[rugged hawk]

Less weapon types I can use, but now I can fully utilize my Trident

Also, no concerns about accidentally dropping it underwater or throwing it at an angry fish

Which came in handy that time I had to fight a giant plesiosaurus

[valid geyser]

you know i never realized how much they nerfed the horn of valhalla
I know mass summons are busted but was having a legendary item summon more than 5 CR 2s? or maybe at least make them bigger, stronger creatures?

[rugged hawk]

Oh, the days when a cat summoning statue was 'high magic' in Drizzt's time....

[static heath]

I have an armorer artificer question. Based on the updated rules, we can replicate magic armor and use it as our arcane armor.

Our arcane armor comes with a simple weapon, can that be replicated using replicate magic item to make the thunder pulse a +1 weapon, for example?

[uncut zenith]

I would say no if only because of some key wording

[valid geyser]

1. not until level 9
2. no

[uncut zenith]

The pulse counts as a Simple Melee weapon
Counts as =/= is

[valid geyser]

or wait actually maybe yeah for number 1. it just lets you modify a piece of armor you are wearing

[static heath]

That’s a bigger Nerf to armorers than I initially thought then

[uncut zenith]

The “Weapon, +1” magic item entry also explicitly mentions what weapons it is applicable to, and the Armorer weapons aren’t on those charts

[atomic kayak]

Well thats not quite why

[valid geyser]

well theyre still one of the best artificer subs because they get to cast hypnotic pattern or lightning bolt 11 times

[atomic kayak]

Its moreso that the armor weapons kinda just. Don't exist.

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, they’re temporary weapons that only exist while the specific model is active

If a model isn’t active, the weapon effectively doesn’t exist

[static heath]

Thanks for the clarification

[livid brook]

is there a modifier a weapon can have that replaces its base damage with lightning

[valid geyser]

if youre an ascendant dragon monk

[uncut zenith]

I think a Warrior of the Elements monk too

[rough basalt]

There's probably a magic weapon that does lightning damage instead of weapon damage somewhere

[feral fulcrum]

It's once per day. So, hardly busted. You could get an Enspelled weapon with Lightning Bolt, or Fireball, so it's not much different from that.

[valid geyser]

it does but it costs a focus point to activate

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, I think there’s a Hammer of Thunderbolts or something that deals lightning damage, but I think it’s in addition to bludgeoning, not instead of

Otherwise, a lot of the features as of late that let you switch one damage type to another either let you pick between the “elemental” damage types (Acid, Cold, Fire, Lightning, Poison) or from base damage type to Force or Psychic

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah magic weapons trend to just adding a type of damage in addition to the base damage. Unless they're something like Sunblades.

[livid brook]

dont suppose theres a feat that does smthn similar

[formal relic]

guys

is there anyone i can join in dnd group for a online run BECAUSE I CANT JOIN THOSE CLANS THAT COST MONEY OR THE FREE ONES THAT I HAVE TO CONNECT A CREDIT CARD TO and i jst wanna play dnd with someone (im newish but ik most rules and basics so dont expect me to be a drag down)

[feral fulcrum]

First of all #find-a-game, Secondly, please don't spam all caps, thirdly. Never ever sign up for a group that asks for your credit card. Fourth, there are no clans.

[formal relic]

i meant group not clan

[feral fulcrum]

Anyone asking for your credit card Info that isn't a verified online store, is a blatant scammer.

[feral fulcrum]

Nope. But you can always bug your DM to just craft a Sunblade But X Element instead of Radiant instead.

[idle oar]

Please use the Looking For Game channels to find a group to play D&D with - it's off-topic to solicit/organize games outside of those channels. And as folks mentioned, see #find-a-game to learn how to use those channels.

[glossy otter]

Ngl it was not in my bingo card to find out that Strahd, Gale and Shadowheart were getting entire MTG secret lairs dedicated to them

[feral fulcrum]

I mean it's only natural for WOTC to milk the ever loving heck out of Baldur's Gate 3

[glossy otter]

fair, though I know Karlach and Astarion was because of fan hype

[feral fulcrum]

They Are beholden to one of the greediest parent companies known to man afterall.

[glossy otter]

Though to release them at the same time as Strahd is interesting

[lusty kelp]

Wait, what? What's going on?

[glossy otter]

the three are getting mini sets dedicated to them (5 cards each)

[valid geyser]

secret lairs are online order mtg drops. Usually people just buy them for the art

[feral fulcrum]

Is suddenly reminded that WOTC hired Pinkertons, and that Pinkertons are STILL are thing these days

[glossy otter]

Yet their usually pricy as hell because they sell out fast

[livid brook]

if only there were fist weapons

[glossy otter]

Magic the Gathering X DND

[feral fulcrum]

Infusions as of 2014 can effect Armor's special weapon at lvl 9.

[livid brook]

Lightning Strike. You can use an action to cause a bolt of lightning to leap from the staff's tip in a line that is 5 feet wide and 120 feet long. Each creature in that line must make a DC 17 Dexterity saving throw, taking 9d6 lightning damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one.

isnt this just a better javelin of lightning. its still once a day

[eager marsh]

what rarity is it? Also you can use multiple javelins with extra attack

[livid brook]

oh thats why

[loud aspen]

What book would be best to start off with D&D?

[livid brook]

its very rare lol

[naive cedar]

The player’s handbook

[loud aspen]

Thank you

[rugged hawk]

You misspelled Tomb of Horrors

[naive cedar]

Sorry I misspelled the monster manual /j

[rough basalt]

I'd say Death House is better

That way its a low level and easy to handle

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but that's survivable.

[rough basalt]

True.
Nobody dies in Death House

[elder oxide]

Hey so l gave my player a whip that stacks damage how do l balance it but not nerf like taking the damage die away any ideas

[rough basalt]

Well one you shouldn't have done that, and two you'll need to nerf it somehow.

[elder oxide]

I’m aware but lm trying to figure out how to balance

[turbid vessel]

#homebrew is probably a better place to ask that question

[rough basalt]

Continual stacking damage dice isn't gonna be balanced

[elder oxide]

Well it makes it worse is that they are a fighter

So they can stack easy

[rough basalt]

Yeah that's gonna be very bad as levels go on

[proper skiff]

Is thunder step 5E a reaction?

[rough basalt]

Thunderstep spell is an action.

[proper skiff]

I'm sure it said when picking it I could cast t as a reaction but that was 2 months ago and now I'm not seeing it...

[rugged hawk]

Nah, just give it a stacking -1 to hit each time it increases in damage 👀 /s

Soon it'll only hit on nat 20s and obliterate whatever it manages to touch

[rugged hawk]

Now make a situation where it might get stolen and need a whole quest to recover, possibly with them having to fight against someone using it

[worn lagoon]

I am tempted to swap out our usual session for tomb of horrors for no reason at all

[worn lagoon]

What do you mean "stacks damage"

[rugged hawk]

Okay, you've got a good start there, but Mimic of Horrors, where they only realize the entire place is a megamimic at the very end if they manage to survive.

[worn lagoon]

ABSOLUTE
CINEMA

[rugged hawk]

They'll fight their hardest all the way to the center, thinking they've won at last..... but this wasn't even the Tomb's final form!

[dense gulch]

Quesiton is Magic missile 1d4x3 or 3d4+3 (1d4+1,1d4+1,1d4+1) or 3d4+1

[rugged hawk]

1d4+1 per missile

[idle oar]

What Echo of Vinnath said

[dense gulch]

Foundry is only rolling 1d4 when I us eit

[idle oar]

Correct - you will need to roll damage for each missile (or roll once and multiply that by the number of missiles)

[dense gulch]

I was also told by someone You roll 1d4 once, then apply that same result to every dart.

[rugged hawk]

You were told wrong.

[dense gulch]

that is how foundry is taking as It remove my spell number and I can't roll more then 1d4

[rugged hawk]

Well, there's your issue, you're using Foundry /s

[dense gulch]

It either foundry
Dnd Beyond or roll20
My friend hate beyond
I hate roll20

[idle oar]

Joking aside you could just do /r 1d4+1 and repeat that x times where x is the number of missiles used.

[woven flint]

Magic missile enjoyers when I.. when.. when the missile is magic

Idk, I've never used magic missile

I'm sure it's fun

[idle oar]

Pretty handy tool to get a caster to lose concentration...
or finish off something that has death saves

[woven flint]

I prefer Jim's Magic Missile

It's gluten-free!

[dense gulch]

even dnd beyond is only rolling 1d4

[livid owl]

Hmm
Do most DMs have an issue with a character without legs but just slithers

Really it seems like flavor to me whether something has legs or not so long as it can move effectively

[dense gulch]

should it roll 3 of them

[idle oar]

No - you have to roll it 3 times

[rugged hawk]

You create three glowing darts of magical force. Each dart strikes a creature of your choice that you can see within range. A dart deals 1d4 + 1 Force damage to its target. The darts all strike simultaneously, and you can direct them to hit one creature or several.

[idle oar]

Or you can roll the damage once and then multiply that by the number of darts

[severe rampart]

All I know is it's a guranteed hit, but usually it rolls like a 1

[lyric idol]

Yes and no. Because being a slithery snake has the advantage of no prone. But tbh its a minor advantage.

[lean wigeon]

i dont like this personally. too much variance

[lyric idol]

Idk if a lot of DMs would care.

[eager marsh]

2024 mandated separate dice per dart after that crawford tweet got popular and people abused features that add a bonus to 'a single roll' to turn Magic Missile into a multiplier

[lyric idol]

No thanks I like being able to deal more then 6 damage 😄

[idle oar]

Yeah - it's just another common way I've seen folks handle Magic Missile damage

[lean wigeon]

ur turning a normal distribution into a uniform one. like yeah the average damage is the same but the variance is significantly different and it becomes swingy

[livid owl]

I meannn you fall over you still need to get back up, and usually prone is in combat where time is slowed down big-time

[woven flint]

Jim's Magic Missile, my beloved

[idle oar]

And there's just the fun of rolling more dice

[dense gulch]

but Absorb Elements says 2d6

If clicking the button is how you attack it should roll 3 dice at once

[idle oar]

I can't explain how or why developers program things the way they did on Foundry or D&DBeyond or Roll20. But magic missile does 1d4+1 damage for each dart.

Focus on the 1d4+1 damage per dart and ignore why tools don't do what you think it should do

I mean if you upcast magic missile ideally the tool would give you more damage dice to roll as the spell indicates (more darts)

[dense gulch]

doesn't the handbook also say If a spell or effect deals damage to more than one target at the same time, you roll the damage once and apply it to all of them.

roll the damge once and that multiplies

[idle oar]

Well you need to pick how many darts hit what target

[dense gulch]

So I roll 1d4+1 and x 3 darts

roll once

[idle oar]

I did mention that approach here already: #dnd-discussion message

[wanton sorrel]

9 characters face 39 goblin warriors.. can they survive?

[cobalt owl]

Depends

[fair summit]

Action economy is gonna be tough on them, and the fight is likely to be a slog waiting for the goblins to move, but otherwise depends entirely on their level and resources

[livid owl]

I would probably just have the goblins act as a single entity in that instance

[wanton sorrel]

they kind of did... they had 2 healers bard and cleric... it clearly had 17 rounds and 6 turns

[fair summit]

Well I guess you already had your answer then

[short glade]

Magic Missle (it’s great!)

[wanton sorrel]

the longest fight i ever done... now i'm worn out...

[hollow lance]

I hate that bardtificer sucks mechanically in every way possible because the flavour is amazing

[turbid vessel]

everyone wants to be daft punk lol

[remote wadi]

I'm sorry, what?

Not that kind of what

[remote wadi]

Take that out of the Magic Missile, I don't care that it's free

[terse minnow]

i am trying to buy pugilist but it keeps giving me an error is anyone else having this issue.?

[wanton sorrel]

?

[hollow lance]

you could have them invent the instrument they use

like being a tinkerer who made your own instrument and is a savant at it is so cool, but bard and artificer have as many things going against them as possible

[remote wadi]

I suppose that would work, but most things they would use have already been invented

But it is a little cursed at a first glance

[hollow lance]

electric guitar

[dense gulch]

This does make more sense tho since really all you need is a set of dice to play 1 set not 3 sets just for a level 1 spell

[hollow lance]

bard that shreds

[remote wadi]

And where would you get the batteries or outlets for it?

[hollow lance]

artificer

[rugged hawk]

Shocking Grasp, obviously

[severe rampart]

in a world where magic exists, I think this is a stupid question

not meant to be offensive or anything, but artificers are right there

[hollow lance]

yeah my point was I wish bard artificer didn't suck as a multiclass because electric guitar bard would be so cool

[severe rampart]

Who says you need to multiclass? get an artificer teammate

[hollow lance]

fair I'm just thinking about making a character rn so I'm fully on single character ideas

[remote wadi]

Then maybe I am not giving them enough credit. Just feels like inventing batteries to use an electric guitar is a bit... anachronistic...

Like, a bit too far fetched in my book. But DM would be the boss of that

[turbid vessel]

why close your mind to it being powered by batteries? there's a thousand and one ways to magitech

[hollow lance]

dnd already is anachronistic it has cars and guns

[rough basalt]

Yeah you could probably make some kind of battery with magic

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, it's called a WAND

[rough basalt]

Avernus is so hilarious in a dark comedic way.

When I think of "Blood War" between Devils and Demons I first imagined monsters tearing each other apart in open unending battle.

But it's Mad Max in actual hell.

[main maple]

Does your current class and subclass match your personality in real life?

[turbid vessel]

well considering that my current character is a 6'4" strongwoman orc warrior and i'm a 5'6" psychology student

ima say no

[hoary totem]

Took a personality test, 100% wizard, 45% (lowest) warlock. So both yes and no.

[short glade]

Im a 6’4” strong orc psychology graduate

[karmic pendant]

no i have 2 clerics and an artificer none of them match my personality

[turbid vessel]

how's it feel to be living my dream

[main maple]

What class would you say matches more?

[short glade]

That’s a complex question and I don’t have a good answer right now

[shell sable]

yo how do i make a looking for players post?

i just joined here

[rugged hawk]

I do. Why would anyone wanna be GREEN and look like Shrek got wrecked by a mallet to the face a few times?

[karmic pendant]

#find-a-game has a guide for that

[shell sable]

thank you person

[short glade]

Damn I love Orcs and Barbs and I’m
Just gettin it from all directions today.

[wise mica]

I mean to put an LFG up myself at some point lol, maybe tomorrow. I have an idea for a fun three session adventure that I think would kind of rock tbh

[karmic pendant]

good question

[turbid vessel]

sounds like someone has some hate in their heart for orcs
my condolensces

[rugged hawk]

Orcs are still better than dorfs and gnomes, though

[woven flint]

What???
Orcs are kinda hot smh..

[turbid vessel]

i identify by lore bard the most

[idle oar]

Gentle reminder about server rules regarding discussions of even fantasy races... 😉

[short glade]

I play two main characters: Half-Orc Barbarian and High-Elf Noble

[woven flint]

I have... too many characters

[karmic pendant]

same

[wise mica]

Orc good. Dwarf good. Elf good. All are good. Except Aasimar (joking!)

[rugged hawk]

Okay, see, I hear what you're saying. Counterpoint, all I can see in my head is Sarumon's muddy piggies getting pulled from the muck.

[deft totem]

i think i might be dumb, i just found the snap to grid option on inkarnate id been free handing stuff for so long

[short glade]

Yes all races good. High Elf just gooder than the rest.

-this was said by a high elf.

[turbid vessel]

i love using character creation as an exercise in challenging beauty norms. one i especially love to challenge is the interaction between fatness and beauty
just saying, there's such a deficit of good fat character designs

[woven flint]

My characters consist of:
Tabaxi Rogue, Tortle Cleric, Bugbear Ranger, Drow Warlock, Harengon Wizard, Dragonborn Fighter, Warforged Druid (Or Maybe Pugilist since the dm plans on allowing it)

[rugged hawk]

"The Drow shall reign SUPREME!"

[karmic pendant]

are they all in campaigns?

[woven flint]

Yes.

[remote wadi]

Hogfolk saying that all races are equal, just some are more equal than others

[short glade]

I do this too but I’d do it by picking a feature to exaggerate. Like have an otherwise beautiful character, but give them a very big nose or something like that and then work around that. Perfectly Flawed ya know

[wise mica]

My characters are usually heroic warrior dudes or edgy mercenaries.

[woven flint]

All my characters are indeed in campaigns lol

My Warforged technically isn't because that campaign hasn't started yet..
But it's going to this week

[karmic pendant]

i have a few but most of them are from a campaign similar to westmarch where i just switch between them

[rugged hawk]

Exactly, Grim Hollow humans are superiorly equal specimens of humanity.

-Awesome Critical
-First Strike
-Weapon Aptitude (3 bonus specific weapon proficiencies)
-Helping Hand
-Intrinsic Orientation
-Artisanal Focus
-Keen Survival
-Skill Prowess

[karmic pendant]

dwarf rogue, warforged sorcerer,lizardfolk druid and fire genasi artificer

[wise mica]

Optimizing by race/class when you could just ask your gm to recklessly approve untested homebrew modifications to whatever best fits your story, eh? 😛

[short glade]

Choosing your race and class when you could randomly roll multiple peasants and sent them into a death funnel?

[rugged hawk]

That's just DNDBeyond's 'Random' option, followed by Tomb of Horrors.

[wise mica]

I think my message got ate because of an all caps formatting for effect. Curses! You roll hit die for hostile stats?

[turbid vessel]

do the randomize option but turn on homebrew, and don't sort by quality

[idle oar]

Hey folks - if you want to discuss other game systems, please use #non-dnd-topics for that

[turbid vessel]

usually not

[short glade]

This has to be strictly DnD mechanics.

[idle oar]

I mean you're on the official D&D Discord so yeah, we generally need to stay on topic.

[wise mica]

Brevity is the soul of wit, and comedy is good for the soul. What's y'all's favorite DND joke

[short glade]

The Ranger class.

[idle oar]

The failed investigation checks to find out how to unlock the unlocked door

[rugged hawk]

4th edition

[short glade]

Editions after AD&D

[wise mica]

My fave DND joke is... an in-joke from an old game that doesn't warrant explanation and lacks meaning outside the context of that scenario. Also it's funny when the bard dies in Dorkness Rising, an old parody movie.

[tropic plank]

My favourite joke about DnD is the absolute quantity of ‘I have dark vision’ memes

Or most things a bard does

[lavish edge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/warlock-fireball
my favoite is the classic

[hushed mason]

I'm rather fond of the Dread Gazebo tale.

[tribal mesa]

Anyone know where I can read more about the feywild? I want to read some stuff about it for a backstory

[hushed mason]

What have you already read?

[rough basalt]

One of the best dnd stories imo

[tribal mesa]

The dms guide 2014 and from the forgotten realms wiki

[hushed mason]

It first appeared in 4e, so you could have a look at that DMG.

You could also go throuhg the 'references' section of the FR wiki to see what documents they have quoted from. THat might give you more.

A 4e Manual of the Planes. I didn't know they had one.

[rugged hawk]

first appeared in 4e
Red flag Only good thing to come out of 4e was genasi gaining elemental power lines on their skin. /s

[hushed mason]

Feywild first appeared in 4e. Along with Shadowfell.

Folks seem to be quite fond of it.

[rough basalt]

Ye 4e did a lot right

[primal wolf]

my first PC was a gnome

[rough basalt]

It's just what it did wrong was worse.

[rugged hawk]

iunno, I always felt like 4e was basically a "We need more money! How can we get it?!" and the reasonable suggestions got ignored in favor of "Rewrite EVERYTHING'S lore!"

[hushed mason]

Apparently a few things were worth keeping around.

[primal wolf]

the lore rewrites from 5e to 5.5e also weren't great in my opinion

[rugged hawk]

Million monkeys and typewriters moment.

[rough basalt]

4e was poorly handled on an executive level mainly

[hushed mason]

I have the core books but never played.

I was ticked off about the change.

I still only play 3.5.

[rough basalt]

The game itself had its fans and did have the most balanced combat in dnd history

Well, until Player Core 3

The Ranged Martials, Melee Martials, Ranged Casters, and Melee Caster nations lived in harmony.
Until the Psionics nation attacked

[rugged hawk]

When I think 4E exec meeting, I just see that meme of a reasonable employee being yeeted out the window.

[rough basalt]

Battlemind for example, the Psionic Defender class

Was a tank that teleported around hitting people

I played one for a couple sessions and it was really fun

[rugged hawk]

That's just Misty Step with more To Hit and maybe an extra attack

[rough basalt]

On every turn /hj

[rugged hawk]

I know

[rough basalt]

Some of 5es most reputable 3rd party content is just 4e

Flee Mortals

It's pretty much the 4e MM 1 but with their own flair.

4e is like a Tree with how many current systems have roots to 4e

Daggerheart, 2024, Draw Steel, Lancer, Pf2e

[rugged hawk]

2024
Well, that explains everything

[rough basalt]

Yep, how to fix 5e? 4e

Weapon Masteries for example were level 1 At-Will Martial Powers in 4e

[rugged hawk]

Still going to do questionable things to whoever thought moving sub-classes to level 3 was a good idea

[rough basalt]

I was off about it at first till I realized it works well

[rugged hawk]

I don't care that it 'works well', I want my subclass without waiting a half dozen sessions for it

[rough basalt]

A Sorcerer hones their ability till they gain full control.
A Warlock earns their benefits like an intern.

Cleric is an intern

[rugged hawk]

Okay, when you put it like that, it's hard to hate it so much, but I still hate it

[uncut zenith]

I love it

[worn lagoon]

I think I would rather not play than play through lv1-2 again anyway

[uncut zenith]

It makes sense narratively, and from a mechanical/above table perspective, the first two levels are designed to be tutorial levels you play if you’ve never played the class before. And it generally doesn’t last more than three sessions.

[worn lagoon]

I don't like having nothing specific to my patron/ancestral origin in the first two levels, why do my scales suddenly harden at lv3

[uncut zenith]

Also from an above table perspective, at least now everybody at the table can collectively be excited about unlocking their subclass and corresponding subclass features at the same time, instead of some people starting with subclass features and others having to wait.

[rugged hawk]

laughs in 2014 Warlock and 2014 Divine Soul sorcs

[civic notch]

Because maybe your patron has deemed you worthy of them?

[uncut zenith]

Because you now have a stronger connection to your innate magic. You can say you had scales before level 3 aesthetically, they just didn’t harden to the point of giving you mechanical benefits until Level 3.

[worn lagoon]

These answers are fair: However, I hate both of them.

[uncut zenith]

Well, you can always keep playing 2014 rules

[civic notch]

I mean the real answer is because you shouldn't get everything that defines your character at level 1

[worn lagoon]

But you don't get everything that defines your character at lv1 in 2014

it's lv1
you get mage armor and false life as the most dramatic change

[uncut zenith]

Yeah. Cuz it’s a tutorial level that you typically level up from after session 1 anyways

[rugged hawk]

And then die of 1d4 gaining spells damage

[civic notch]

That depends entirely on the class. Some were very front loaded, making for better multiclass options. Example: all it took to get heavy armor prof is taking one level of cleric with the right domain.

They changed it to make balance easier to figure out.

[uncut zenith]

Levels 1 and 2 are designed to give you the basic gist of how to play your class before your subclass kicks in and gives you more customization.

[worn lagoon]

I can't even complain that much because 2024 sorcerer is goated overall

[uncut zenith]

That as well. It discourages 1-level dips for multiclassing.

[worn lagoon]

Well I liked those

[uncut zenith]

Well now multiclassing is a more meaningful choice than it was in 2014

[worn lagoon]

Not that I'd ever dip for armor specifically, but idk, multiclassing a fullcaster's already equivalent to shooting yourself in the foot most of the time

[civic notch]

It also made single classing more competitive by comparison

[uncut zenith]

Multiclassing is no longer an “easy” choice. But the game still has things like feats that almost mimic a 2-level dip so you don’t have to multiclass for something a 2-level dip would’ve given you (like Eldritch Adept and Metamagic Adept, which give you a couple of invocations and metamagic options respectively).

[worn lagoon]

eldritch adept is like a fifth of a two-level dip tbf

[uncut zenith]

It still gives people what they typically look for out of a 2-level warlock dip though. Invocations.

[worn lagoon]

but not EB and agonizing blast at the same time

[uncut zenith]

If I wanted EB that badly, I’d just play a warlock

[worn lagoon]

sure

[atomic kayak]

Multiclassing became both simultaneously less strong and less punishing

[worn lagoon]

less punishing how

[tawny solar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveTrash/comments/1quv6v6/how_to_open_a_door/ What every dungeon delver needs to learn.

[stoic obsidian]

How exactly is it less punishing?

Tbh multiclassing is useful if you want to go a certain direction, like idk a bard having a patron that is their wife or something

Or want pact of the blade and eldritch then again 2024 makes the less offensive on bards a non issue tbh

[naive cedar]

Multiclassing is cool for rp purposes depending on the character

[stoic obsidian]

If anything multi classing is more so flavor than optimization tbh

I agree, or wanting to try out a jank build character

Tbh multi classing is truly punishing for games that don’t go high in level

[iron herald]

In 2014 certain dips were so beneficial you'd be a fool not to take them, while other dips were completely useless. Now it seems to be a bit more in the middle. There are some quite beneficial options, but very few completely useless options, and some incentives to remain single-class as well.

The smoothing out of progression between classes, as well as capstone features, both contribute to this.

[hot marlin]

I admit that I prefered when multiclassing was clearly an optional rule that was, as optional rules are, by default not allowed

[rugged hawk]

Capstone features only become relevant in capstone-capable campaigns, though

[tall forge]

Generally multiclassing has always been relatively bad

Monoclassing is just usually more optimal

[rugged hawk]

What I'd be interested in is capstones being converted into class powers that only remain active while you're single class.

[naive cedar]

I tend to prefer going with subclasses for specific flavour or whatever than multiclassing

[hot marlin]

I have seen many people take a multiclass build that would be better "later". Inevitably, until that "later" came their characters were noticeably weaker

[uncut zenith]

Sure, but if you’re gonna look at the viability of a class, you should be looking at all 20 levels, not just the ones that are “most commonly played”.

[limber trail]

well yeah to get a capstone you need to be single class

[tall forge]

I had a player of mine loveto Frankenstein build, but they were so incredibly useless for large periods of times….

[hot marlin]

To this day, I still do not allow multiclassing. I find the game gets deeper when your options are more limited.

[tall forge]

Now this i disagree with

[woven flint]

Hello, friends :>

[rugged hawk]

Exactly, but I'm saying to make capstones apply to the class as a whole rather than just level 20, but they stop working if you multiclass

[stoic obsidian]

Guess Expectations weren’t meet

[tall forge]

Hello toki 👋

[livid brook]

how many feats are their for mounted combat? so far im seeing these.

Charger + Sentinel + Mounted combatant + Squire of solamnia

[uncut zenith]

I don’t disallow multiclassing, but I definitely and openly discourage it at my tables

[naive cedar]

I’d only allow it if it was for roleplaying reasons and a subclass can’t fit that. I’m not a DM though

[tall forge]

There are multiclasses that can be really strong

[uncut zenith]

My players know I don’t care for it, but I’m not gonna tell them they can’t do it either

[stoic obsidian]

Oh hey it Toki lord of SillyBilly Village

[naive cedar]

I imagine there’s some multiclasses that attract obnoxious play styles

[hot marlin]

To translate: You mean that you would prefer if classes had special features that are removed when the character multiclasses?

[stoic obsidian]

But take time to build up to tho

[tall forge]

Like a sorcerer paladin

Or a sorlock

[rugged hawk]

Exactly! Capstones come too late to consider for most campaigns.

[tall forge]

Sorcadin and sorlock are real real strong

[rugged hawk]

Something that makes the class unique but is lost if you multi should be a thing

[uncut zenith]

That’s cuz they’re designed to be almost like “rewards” for getting to the endgame

[tall forge]

Unfortunately martials kinda are awful at multiclassing

[stoic obsidian]

Honestly I am neutral on multiclassing

[winged stag]

yea me too

[stoic obsidian]

It can be fun, bad, or just eh and not even broken, so really just do it if you wanna

And if you feel disappointed then ask the dm to respect or just find ways to have fun with it

[tall forge]

I will say as a dm, the biggest annoyance is people multiclassing bc they want to do EVERYTHING

[woven flint]

:3 hello to you too

[rugged hawk]

I was super sad when I found out multiclassing in NWN2 didn't grant my warlock the bone arm or dragon wings I wanted.

[stoic obsidian]

That is the true annoyance

[tall forge]

Had a player Frankenstein 4 entire classes together

[naive cedar]

What classes

[tall forge]

Bard wizard fighter warlock

[woven flint]

I hate it

[winged stag]

by the gods

[naive cedar]

Surprised sorcerer isn’t in there

[woven flint]

Horrendous.

[tall forge]

It was real annoying, bc they kept asking for homebrew items to give them spells so theyd be useful

[stoic obsidian]

Okay one rule for multiclassing keep it to two classes

[rugged hawk]

A char with 1 level of each class!

[woven flint]

I'd be like
"Well maybe you should've played a normal character, yeah?"
Then give them the option to go full into one class because I'm nice

[tall forge]

You can multiclass up to 3 and still be useful if you know what youre doing!

4, no. Thats insane

[stoic obsidian]

3 if you are using fighter in that mix

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but what if we took a single level in each 2014 class? So many subclasses to pick from!

[woven flint]

Fighter, Ranger, Barbarian abomination

[tall forge]

Fighter, sorcerer, warlock (hexblade)

That was my multiclass for an eldritch blast build

[stoic obsidian]

Action Surge time

[tall forge]

The 18 eldritch blasts build

[civic notch]

Multiclass as wizard, wizard, and more wizard.

[stoic obsidian]

Yup I hate how abusable fighter is

As a multi classing

[tall forge]

Its either fighter or hexblade thats the most abusable

[naive cedar]

Fighter is really fun to multiclass

[tall forge]

Or sorcerer

[stoic obsidian]

How about rogue

[tall forge]

Of of the top 5 worst multiclass option 😔

[naive cedar]

What are the other four

[stoic obsidian]

Monk

[tall forge]

Number 1. Monk prob

[stoic obsidian]

Monk doesn’t play nice as a multiclass

[atomic kayak]

Because the vast vast vast majority of multiclasses were bad.

[tall forge]

2. Artificer

3. Barbarian

[stoic obsidian]

4.Druid

[iron herald]

Be me, wanting to dip into Monk for a Daoist character for a tiny bit of martial arts as a treat. ._.

[tall forge]

Honestly druid might be 3

[rugged hawk]

I don't like how rare feats are now

[woven flint]

Play Monk
Monk is good :>

[stoic obsidian]

Actually who multi-class Druid

[tall forge]

Barbarian has some bonuses at least if you multiclass to like, paladin or something

[stoic obsidian]

Just straight monk is fun

[tall forge]

The biggest issue with monk and barbarian, they have an ability that would get rid of a magic item

Unarmored defense means no armor, which means no magic armor

[stoic obsidian]

Monk needs no multi classing (well except if you 2 fighter dip)

[woven flint]

I love Solo classing because I actually like having to solve my inherent problem as a class

[iron herald]

There's a strangely synergistic but niche barb-lock build I'll be trying in a few months.

[woven flint]

Barbarians can wear medium armor and still use rage

[stoic obsidian]

Also monk with no armor is no biggie, just slap on them bracers

[tall forge]

Ye they just have a useless feature

[woven flint]

I dunno why you'd want to Wear Armor on a Monk or Barbarian...
Unless you're a COWARD!

[tall forge]

Just a magic item slot

[stoic obsidian]

The unarmored defense is optional on a barbarian

[woven flint]

So is armored defense

Wearing armor is for cowards...

[tall forge]

Cant get a +3 (x) armor, which means youll have less ac than the guy next to you who has +3 light

[woven flint]

Bracers of Unarmored Defense, Ring of Protection, Cloak of Protection, The books that Raise Dex, Con and Wis..

[tall forge]

Yeah but those take attunement

[woven flint]

The books don't

[rugged hawk]

That's what my ocean sorceress said, then proceeded to enchant a turtle shell and wear it on her back. https://i.imgur.com/lDzZ0JA.jpeg

[stoic obsidian]

Yet ac become less relevant over time for enemies will start to have high enough hit to slap you

[tall forge]

Books are useful for everyone

[knotty pasture]

Life Cleric for Goodberry

[tall forge]

Huge disagree

[stoic obsidian]

Also spells gonna have a word with you

[woven flint]

I dunno..
My Forge Adept Artificer with 27 AC and a Cloak of displacement was pretty hard to hit lol

[knotty pasture]

Also AC stacking only gets diminishing returns once you hit 20+ AC, stacking AC in itself before that is never bad

[stoic obsidian]

Agree to disagree

[tall forge]

Say you have 23 ac (28 ac with shield)

You have now a ~55% chance an ancient red dragon misses you with an attack

[stoic obsidian]

Or you dash away behind a wall

[tall forge]

Thats situational at that point

[stoic obsidian]

Or kill the dragon before it get the chance

[rugged hawk]

Good luck dodging Disintegrate and Power Word Kill

[tall forge]

Thats if your party can do enough damage, which is situation dependent

[tropic plank]

50 is better than zero!

[stoic obsidian]

And it situationally dependent if it will go exactly the way you want it

[tall forge]

Thats why you increase numbers like AC, so it becomes more likely that you get the outcome you want

[stoic obsidian]

Did you prepare for the fire breath

[tall forge]

Those numbers fit in all situations with an ancient red dragon

[blissful ibex]

That's what death ward is for

[tall forge]

A recharge on 5-6 ability, not likely to occur twice in a row. So, yeah

Dragons gonna be forced to use its melee eventually

[stoic obsidian]

And it eventually gonna hit

[tall forge]

Sure, but a 23 is the average of an AC build

[stoic obsidian]

Okay

Do you use items to increase your damage?

[tall forge]

Either way, ac is pretty important

[stoic obsidian]

To an extent

[tall forge]

And usually monsters dont go past +17s at most

[tall forge]

+1 and above armors dont use attunement slots, so yeah

[stoic obsidian]

Ac is important but not end all be all, because just having high ac doesn’t kill the dragon quicker

[tall forge]

And base kits of most dnd classes already give out insane damage

Such as being any fullcastwr

[stoic obsidian]

Guess I am wrong kinda on having + 20 ac tho, I just don’t think it a good idea to go full investment on ac

[tall forge]

Its generally just really easy to do, is the big thing

Ac increasing items dont have any cost other than gold, since they dont need attunement

[quiet mist]

“You may teleport up to your movement speed instead of moving.”
Thoughts on this?
Would you say this is too strong, too weak?
What level would you recommend this at?

[stoic obsidian]

Except cloak of protection, ring of protection, probably some other ones

[tall forge]

But that does technically and up DM dependant like any other magic itsm

[tall forge]

It completely removes the threat of opportunity attacks

Or environmental hazards

[quiet mist]

Yeah

[feral fulcrum]

Stares in above 100 HP

[tall forge]

So, its not particularly something that id say is balanced

[quiet mist]

Noted

Thanks 🙏.
Honestly didn’t expect a response 😭.
Thanks

[feral fulcrum]

Eh, there are plenty of ways to ignore Attacks of Oppurtunity already. It's not super busted.

[blissful ibex]

a few do, like staff of power c:
the barrier tattoos
bracers of defence
etc.

[feral fulcrum]

Heck a simple third level spell does it, while doing damage, and buffing move speed for a whole minute.

[stoic obsidian]

Plus 3 plat mail plus a plus 3 shield = 24 ac

[quiet mist]

Which spell?
Expedition retreat?
Oh no not that one nvm.

[tall forge]

Yeah, but thats a spell slot, not free

[feral fulcrum]

Expeditious retreat is first level. Ashardalon's Stride is 3rd Level.

[tall forge]

Forgot the base +2 a shield gives

So that would actually be 26 ac

[quiet mist]

🤔 making it require a spell slot is a good idea.
Big ouch tho.
Thanks for the input

(Eh haste is better 😭)

[stoic obsidian]

Your right, whoops, but yeah it actually is easy to get a high ac

[woven flint]

Kinetic Jaunt my behated

[feral fulcrum]

Provided the DM isn't stingy with high tier magic items.

[stoic obsidian]

That always the dm fiat

[rugged hawk]

Speaking of AC, though. I've got a char who opted for wearing a turtle's shell on her back for [+3 AC, Heavy, Can't Wear Armor, weighs 24 lbs]. She also uses a trident, so she can't have a shield. Options?

[stoic obsidian]

Actually asdx what your opinion on getting high ac

[stoic obsidian]

Bracers of defense since you aren’t wearing armor

[burnt valley]

???????

[feral fulcrum]

I believe it depends entirely on the DM providing the neccesary items, and past a point it's...excessive.

[quiet mist]

The haste spell.

[stoic obsidian]

I agree on excessive, I say 20 ac is enough tbh

[rugged hawk]

Do Bracers of Defense stack with Shield spell, by any chance?

[stoic obsidian]

Shield add 5 ac so yes it would

[feral fulcrum]

They do. Shield is a spell, it doesn't care if you're naked or decked head to toe in steel and faith. It just adds a flat 5 ac.

[rugged hawk]

Hmmm. But Bracers of Defense do need an attunement slot, and two of hers are already used.

[tall forge]

Id say depends on the build, but anything past 23 def is at a point you should know that youre being more problematic than fun

[hot marlin]

More problematic than fun?

[feral fulcrum]

"If you're not drowning me in fireballs it's not going to challenge me."

[hot marlin]

23 AC? It's not problematic at all. Past a certain point, monsters can easily rock a +15 to hit.

[stoic obsidian]

I think they meant before that point

[hot marlin]

Hell, there is... Literally no amount of AC that's more problematic than fun

If you can't get hit, good for you

[rugged hawk]

I was rather hoping to save my third attunement slot for an eventual Ring of Water Elemental Command. She's already got a Helm of Underwater Action and a Trident of Warning attuned.

[feral fulcrum]

I mean completely negating anything but saving throw attacks/spells would suck the fun out things for some people. I'm also pretty sure DM's would be annoyed.

[remote wadi]

Meanwhile, normal humans are basically the bad side of genetics between a dwarf and an elf

[quiet mist]

:0

[rugged hawk]

Normal humies get a bonus feat, though

[hot marlin]

Who are those people? Why do they even care?

[quiet mist]

lol

[blissful ibex]

23 is fairly reasonable tbh, you're also burning items on doing that instead of working on damage or saves then, it's an opportunity cost either way]

[remote wadi]

They also have a dwarf's lust for alcohol, but an elf's tolerance for it

Also, that is only for 2024, if memory serves. 2014 is just +1 to all stats

[feral fulcrum]

Shrugs If you want to play on God Mode and be unthreatened by mere weapons, you do you. I like having to worry about being stabbed by magic sword man number 300.

[stoic obsidian]

You work on the damage, but your ac lacking take a hit villager Joe

Joking aside

[hot marlin]

That seems like a bit of a strawman

[burnt valley]

Thoughts on the Pugilist/Commoner class?

[tall forge]

I find it mildly problematic when theres huge disparity between party member AC

[atomic kayak]

The only time a permanent AC could hypothetically become actually start to become ""problematic"" is like. 28 permanent AC

But that is generally speaking, functionally impossible to get

[cinder timber]

How come?

[remote wadi]

Mage Armor(?)

Barkskin?

[feral fulcrum]

Hardly. All that does is set your AC to basically light/medium armor.

[tall forge]

The dude who can barely get hit from the +12 vs the dude who always gets hit by the +12, at some point the high AC becomes a deterrent

[burnt valley]

Armour dipping

[cinder timber]

That's a good point. How do you manage discrepancies like that?

[stoic obsidian]

Are you talking about ignoring you because your ac is too high?

[quiet mist]

Quick question:
would you all rather have the ability to permanently cast Haste without concentrating.
Or…
The ability to Summon a Broom of flying?

[feral fulcrum]

And all Barkskin does is make so your AC can't be less then 16. That's it, it doesn't set it to 16, or give you an actual AC.

[remote wadi]

I'm just saying, there are ways to buff low AC

[hidden spindle]

Hold my Three-Quarters cover

[tall forge]

There are ways, my main way is saving throws and encouraging positioning in the party

But if my players pick a fight, and theres little variation in geography, the high ac person gets ignored pretty fast

[worn lagoon]

Damn

[feral fulcrum]

Being very liberal with your AC increasing magic items.

[remote wadi]

I am somewhat certain you have a base AC of 10 +/- Con modifier

[cinder timber]

Just give those to the low ac players

[hidden spindle]

It makes it so your AC is never lower than 16

[feral fulcrum]

That has nothing to do with what I said.

[cinder timber]

Wym they ignored?

[atomic kayak]

Permanent

[remote wadi]

So what happens if you already have lower than 16 AC? Does it buff it up to 16?

[hidden spindle]

Oh right~

[feral fulcrum]

"This mountain of a man seems immune to physical harm. Perhaps I should stop breaking my fist on his face, and punch someone else."

[hidden spindle]

The AC floor is set to 16.

[cinder timber]

Oh, that's smart. Thanks

[remote wadi]

So they are treated as if they have 16 AC?

[knotty pasture]

Yes

[jovial shadow]

Barkskin is 17 AC, at least in '24

[remote wadi]

That's what I wanted to ask

[hot marlin]

I don't see the problem yet

[tall forge]

Its de-aggro before getting hit

[stoic obsidian]

Or get a blowtorch and boil him in his own armor

[knotty pasture]

Its like the Amulet of Health of Headband of Intellect, if you have under the value stated it boosts up to that value

[remote wadi]

16 in '14

[knotty pasture]

But unlike those items, if you're over 16 AC, Barkskin nerfs it back down to 16

[tall forge]

Its a problem in the sense that as a dm, it’s difficult to not just target the players with lower AC

And then go for the bigger AC player

[hot marlin]

Not a problem. Just target the players with the lower AC.

[feral fulcrum]

They're treated as them having whatever their AC would be, for AC increasing and such effects. If it's still lower then 16, you effectively have 16 AC.

[hot marlin]

That's what you should be doing. Target the ones who look weaker.

[hidden spindle]

I'm not sure it brings the ceiling down to AC16

[knotty pasture]

Its not a really good spell in all honesties, and only really sees use on Druid cuz animal forms have fixed AC so Barkskin buffs it to 16

[cinder timber]

That sounds kinda messed up tho, no?

[feral fulcrum]

It doesn't actually set your physical ac to 16.

[remote wadi]

Anyone know how I can equip a favorite class?

[tall forge]

I wouldnt day its messed up per se, but if i was playing a lower AC player bc i didnt focus on building for it

Its mildly annoying to be targeted

[hot marlin]

Messed up? What sort of idiot aims for the guy that is clearly untouchable when his squishy friend right is right there?

[feral fulcrum]

One doesn't equip a pile of rules.

[cinder timber]

I was just asking for above table stuff. Makes sense tactically tho

[remote wadi]

Anyone?

[tall forge]

It puts extra pressure on the lower AC from within the party

[hot marlin]

Again, I see no problems yet, only good things.

[knotty pasture]

That's just being realistic, to not play to the romance of enemies targetting tanks first

Its kind of why tanks don't exist in dnd cuz people can just ignore high AC enemies

[cinder timber]

For the party to protect them? Or what pressure?

[tall forge]

To each their own then 🤷‍♂️

[feral fulcrum]

Are you talking about the little symbol next to names on this discord?

[remote wadi]

Yeah

[tall forge]

I simply find it mildly problematic

[feral fulcrum]

id:customize

[tall forge]

Not in a way that id stop, just in a way i wont fully encourage

[feral fulcrum]

Go click a thing there

[cinder timber]

I will keep that in mind. You guys are justified.

[stoic obsidian]

Actually he is right, because enemies shouldn’t play fair, and honestly it makes it were the high ac can’t just tank, and the lower ac has to think more on their feet to get away or deal with it

[remote wadi]

Thanks. Decided to pick mine and own up to it

What can I say? Ranger is becoming very gratifying to play and listen about

[cinder timber]

No reason for enemies to hit someone heavily armored

[jovial shadow]

No reason unless the heavily armored hits them

[stoic obsidian]

No reason for the goblin not to steal the book in your hand

[hot marlin]

Well there can be a reason to hit someone heavily armored. Maybe keep them busy while your friends are killing their friends.

[cinder timber]

Well if enemies play fair, then
1.) They arent realistic
2.) They just smack the tank and stuff

[cinder timber]

Can just use saving throws against high AC

[remote wadi]

Agreed

[naive cedar]

Does dnd really have tanks tbf

[hot marlin]

No

[stoic obsidian]

Agreed

[cinder timber]

Just high ac

[hot marlin]

Because you can't control who the enemy is going to target.

[fossil hollow]

Theres no such thing as tanks in the MMORPG sense

[naive cedar]

There’s AC but tanking is MMO slang and means something entirely different

[jovial shadow]

Tanks,healers, support. Those are all video game terms. D&D doesn't use those terms

[stoic obsidian]

The truth of the matter is your ac only keeps you safe not your allies

[fossil hollow]

It does use support

[naive cedar]

I think support is a valid dnd term but tank isn’t

[cinder timber]

What? Doesn't the dm play as the enemies?

[fossil hollow]

Support, Damage, Control, Utility

[hot marlin]

"You" as in "the would-be tank"

[fossil hollow]

theyre saying as a player, you cant control who the monsters attack, which is a core feature of MMO tanking

[feral fulcrum]

And they're expected to play the enemies as if they have functioning brains.

[naive cedar]

Support in DND doesnt work the same as it does in MMOs tbf

[cinder timber]

Oh thanks for clarifying, Ti. That didnt make sense

[naive cedar]

I’ve spent far too much time playing FFXIV white mage

[hot marlin]

Let's put it simply:
"Damage dealer" is not a thing because everybody should be contributing to damage.
"Healer" is not a thing because you shouldn't be healing in combat
"Tank" is not a thing because you have no control over who the enemy is going to target

[woven flint]

Ti-Moth

[fossil hollow]

yes? Hi. Woke up from my nap

[stoic obsidian]

Tho healing is only applicable if your ally is down and close to dying

[naive cedar]

TBF healers and tanks should also be doing damage in MMOS if not actively doing the other jobs. In DND though it works differently

[feral fulcrum]

You should 100% be healing in combat at the very least as a Paladin, because they can at least suddenly gain back 50+ hp in one go. And don't get me started on Heal.

[hot marlin]

And, spoiler alert: For the vast, vast majority of enemies, the person in the wizard robes is the highest priority target

[hidden spindle]

-# You right. Life Cleric leaving Goodberry on the table

[hot marlin]

Erratum:
You shouldn't be healing in combat unless it's an emergency.

And even then. Someone being downed should ideally be handled by your familiar or your unseen servant or your homonculus.

[stoic obsidian]

Like cheese the rat with the healing potion

[knotty pasture]

Heal's like the second best healing spell you should throw around in combat anyways

[hot marlin]

Actually, RAW you can't feed someone else a goodberry. That means that goodberries can't be used to heal someone who is downed.

[feral fulcrum]

You can however kick them in the face with a cure wounds.

[naive cedar]

You mean I can’t pull a Skyrim and eat 20 sweet rolls at once in the middle of fighting a dragon?

[hot marlin]

Personally, what I do is that I have unseen servants, familiars and homonculi. Give those healing items with the standing orders to feed them to any ally who falls unconscious.

Once that's done, you can relax.

[stoic obsidian]

Just hope your familiar isn’t killed before they use the potion

[hot marlin]

If you can get an attunement item that allows a creature to cast cure wounds or something similar, it's the perfect gift for your familiar

Indeed, you must take care that your familiars are not targetted. Generally that consists of having them be removed from the fight, away from the fireball areas

[stoic obsidian]

Spellwrought tattoo

On your familiar

[hot marlin]

That is also why I have redundancies. Familar, yes. But also unseen servants and homonculi.

Redundancies are how you avoid a Chernobyl scenario!

Every security system should have at least three layers. Meaning that the situation can only be allowed to become catastrophic if three different systems fail in unrelated ways.

[stoic obsidian]

Actually, am I crazy trying to use items that I haven’t use before?

[hot marlin]

At which point, you've earned your catastrophe

[meager fractal]

My dm doesnt let us use healing word on dying pcs either

[feral fulcrum]

Surprisingly less so when you set yourself on fire and start biting people like a lunatic.

[hot marlin]

That's weird. Why?

[hot marlin]

Indeed with some caveats. Though that is a weirdly, weirdly specific example

[feral fulcrum]

And I'd assume for the Tension of Death Saving Throws.

[feral fulcrum]

It's my experience in my Saturday campaign. It turns out people don't like aproaching people that deal 2d6 fire damage (Or higher when upcast) by simply being aproached.

[hot marlin]

Also: Use those tactics on enemies! Let the BBEG have an unseen servant with standing order to feed them a potion of healing when they fall unconscious

[meager fractal]

Says unconscious ppl can't hear the healing word

[jovial shadow]

Well at least he doesn't make you wait a full week to heal. So there's that

[hot marlin]

This will infuriate the PCs, it's great

[hot marlin]

They don't need to hear it. The spell works just as well on deaf people or on people inside a silence area

[stoic obsidian]

Better yet have a invisible rogue steal everyone’s arcane focus

[hidden spindle]

Wait wait... That's a Magic Action init?

[hot marlin]

Indeed! Targetting people's foci and component pouches can be a great idea

[blissful ibex]

That's literally the entire point of the spell

[hot marlin]

Nope.

[feral fulcrum]

Explain to them that it doesn't matter. Being Deafened wouldn't stop it either.

[stoic obsidian]

Or set the room with explosive triggers

[hot marlin]

Can you imagine if being deafened made you immune to spells with a "word" in the name?

[stoic obsidian]

I love giving DMs ideas

[hot marlin]

I'm definitely bursting my own eardrums if it makes me immune to power word kill.

[feral fulcrum]

Thunderclap suddenly doing nothing because your eardrums already popped.

[naive cedar]

wear noise canceling headphones

[blissful ibex]

sorry dm, my character is immune to the lich's Power Word Kill because she put on some ear muffs

[feral fulcrum]

By being incredibly old and hard of hearing, you too can ignore Power Word Kill

"Come again sonny, didn't hear you the first time?"

[naive cedar]

sorry dm but my years and years of destroying my hearing while blasting system of a down made me immune to power word kill :/

[jovial shadow]

Yep no death saves for Power Word Kill. You just die

[feral fulcrum]

I unintentionally dodged it like twice during my campaign. By being petty and 'hanging up' on Scrying.

Please, do get into petty arguments with the BBEG and his Pet Wizard over your crystal ball, it's hilarious.

[stoic obsidian]

Is it the case of feeling the words instead of hearing

[jovial shadow]

There's no requirement that the creature has to hear anything. That DM probably don't understand how many spells work

[blissful ibex]

the verbal component basically is telling the weave how to do the magic effect, you're talking to the world and magic itself, the magic doesn't care if the target can hear or not unless it one of a handful of spells that do thunder damage and you're deaf due to silence

[naive cedar]

yeah the spell is caused by the weave from what i understand

[buoyant oar]

Yep, if The Target hearing is required for the spell, the spell will say so explicitly

[hidden spindle]

Necromancer Wizard: That's why you never skip CON ASI levels

[burnt valley]

Being deaf is optimal as a character 🔥

[burnt valley]

Players adapt and start having multiple duplicates of their foci and component pouches

[jovial shadow]

Why is a Wall of Stone immune to poison?

[glass granite]

I’d imagine you can’t exactly poison a stone wall

[blissful ibex]

Not me playing Preservation Druid UA that explicitly has a class feature that states you can waive non costly and non consumed matieral components evern without a foci

[jovial shadow]

Yes, but why mention it? "I want to poison the stone wall"

[burnt valley]

Players also start doing the same to the DM, that one really powerful magic item the BBEG has? Yeah thats getting focus fire'd

[hidden spindle]

Objects tend to be immune to Poisons and Psychic damage

[blissful ibex]

disarmed and then catapulted 90 ft away

[burnt valley]

It cant be poisoned

[jovial shadow]

Yes. It's stone it goes without saying it can't be poisoned. I am asking why do they need to tell you that? lol

[burnt valley]

If it doesn't require attunement, use it as well 🔥

[feral fulcrum]

This angers the Wizard. They assault you with their spellbook.

[blissful ibex]

Their spellbook being a maul with runes etched into it listing all their spells

[burnt valley]

They printed their spellbooks already in the double digits

[jovial shadow]

Do you really need to be told you can't poison stone?

Just one of those things, that make you go "hmm"

[feral fulcrum]

Considering that if it's not listed, you can. Yes.

[hidden spindle]

Fun fact: Falling Hazard only affects creatures

[feral fulcrum]

"What do you mean the Fire breathing dragon is immune to fire, why does that need to be listed!?" Becuase if it's not on the statblock/text, it can be hurt by it. That's how the rules work.

[jovial shadow]

Yea because the stone would then suffer from disadvantage on attacks and ability checks. Yep makes total sense.

[hushed mason]

Shouldn't all immunites be listed? I mean, they are in previous editions.

[jovial shadow]

Especially since it does neither

[feral fulcrum]

It's an Object, so no. Because Objects don't attack or make checks.

[glass granite]

Is it immune to the condition or the damage or both

[blissful ibex]

Quick, truepolymorph yourself into a rock to avoid taking 20d6 fall damage

[fossil hollow]

Immunities are indeed typically listed out

[feral fulcrum]

But they do, infact, take damage. And thus you have to mention Immunities and resistances.

[hushed mason]

So if it's not listed, they're not immune.

[burnt valley]

Flying speed fixes this

[fossil hollow]

Objects are often caled out to be immune to Poison, Psychic, and immunities, and sometimes weak to fire, bludgeoning, or thunder, depending on what youre trying to break

[hushed mason]

Acid?

They must be weak to acid, too.

[prime basin]

Man everybody in homebrew takes 2 years to respond...sorry for my impatience

[fossil hollow]

nothing so far

[glass granite]

Because if it wasn’t immune to the damage it could break to being hit with poison

[blissful ibex]

love wall of stone, would make ramps and bridges and stuff out of it if my character actually got access to it prior to level 14

[jovial shadow]

Stones don't attack or make ability checks, so dropping posion on them is as irrelevant as having to tell you they are immune. Anyway. It's silly they even put that in there. Made me laugh

[burnt valley]

Wall of Force is so peak, DM doesn't get to play that one melee creature the DM was eager to use at the party

[prime basin]

Is poison immune to bludgeoning damage?

[blissful ibex]

except, just like the charmed condition, many effects that confer the poisoned condition also add additionaleffects to the debuff

[hoary totem]

I heard that Twilight Cleric was made deliberately OP because WotC was afraid that the flavour wasn't enough to entice players to play it, which is weird because one of my (completely new to DnD) friends said she wanted to play a twilight cleric for the play style and flavour alone

[feral fulcrum]

Can Mending mend Mending?

[blissful ibex]

I mean, if you have a scroll of mending with a little tear in it... yes?

[tawdry mica]

I am cooked just started wanting to play but dont know how to

[glass granite]

Well #learn-to-play could help
Or #find-a-game

[hushed mason]

Reading also helps.

[feral fulcrum]

Peak at the free rules, look on youtube for tutorials, etc etc. The internet is a vast vault of knowledge.

[burnt valley]

I suggest Form of Dread blogs + reading the PHB

[jovial shadow]

I guess they changed their mind, since Twilight didn't make the new PHB?

[hushed mason]

Twilight Sparkle? Twilight vampires? Twilight armor?

[tawdry mica]

What if i said i wanna learn from experience

[glass granite]

Twilight domain cleric

[fossil hollow]

You can stull use 2014 subclasses with 2024 classes

[glass granite]

Then read #find-a-game and play a game. But knowing the basic grasp of the rules is both common courtesy and improves your chances of finding a game

[hidden spindle]

Whatever wasn't reprinted is still valid to use in '24

[hushed mason]

I'd still tell you that you're going to have to do some reading.

[tawdry mica]

Fuhh how much?

[feral fulcrum]

It's still generally preffered to have at least a basic grasp of what to expect and do, as you'll be playing with other people who I dare to presume would prefer not to tell you how everything works.

[rough basalt]

A bit

[fossil hollow]

enough to know what your character can do

[tawdry mica]

Then i will find out what a rogue does

[hushed mason]

The rules are complex. Even a DM that welcomes newbies is likely goin gto want you to know the kinds of things you can do with your character. You learn that by reading the basic rules or Player's Handbook.

[hidden spindle]

Its not uncommon to play without any inkling of the rules

[feral fulcrum]

Someone who doesn't have the patience for reading things, probably also doesn't have the patience to Roleplay with people around a table for hours. Don't be afraid of reading.

[blissful ibex]

Read the information in #learn-to-play and 'Playing the Game'; Then follow allong with 'Creating A Character' using either the dnd beyond character builder or roll20 to make a practice character before heading over to #character-discussion to have it looked over.

Feel free to ask any questions you still have in #dnd-newcomers; There's a short interactive module you can play to get a feel for the game, or you could seek out gameplay videos online. Once you're ready to play, head over to #find-a-game, one of the many LFG discord servers, r/lfg on reddit, or your friendly local game store. If you'd like a printable character sheet, those can be found here.

[jovial shadow]

true. I learned to play on a fly. My friend in highschool out of the blue asked me, "you want to play AD&D?", and I was,what is that? Next thing you know he showed me how to roll a character, choose a god and made an ad hoc adventure for me

[arctic token]

Wsg y'all?

[strange jay]

On my way to find a new campaign since i dint knew that the dm wanted me to pay first to fit with the right style as the artist that is supporting the campaign

The only reason i dint knew because another player was apart of the said campaign and dint tell me otherwise 🥀

[hidden spindle]

Yup. My wife played without knowing the rules. Her friends play without knowing the rules. Its really not that hard.

[fossil hollow]

Thats a scam

[strange jay]

Oh.. Well off to a bad start then for my first time experience 😭

[fossil hollow]

If someone comes to you with a offer of a game but asks for commission, thats a scam

[strange jay]

I tried to get around this by using my own art but they havent responded yet

[hushed mason]

That's because it's a scam.

[strange jay]

Fair enough,

Thanks for the heads up

[hushed mason]

Sorry that happened to you. It's unfortunate. I know how it is to want to get to play and how hard it is to find a game.

[strange jay]

Its fine, wasnt expecting to find a proper one on my first try

I just gotta be a bit more patience at searching for a new one

[hushed mason]

I'm getting discouraged enough to actually consider learning fifth edition just so that I can play. But I really don't want to.

[livid valve]

it should be a rule that dms must play rpg music as an ambiance aka skyrim/divinity sin/dragon age

[hushed mason]

If I have to play music, it will be from operas, not video games.

[livid valve]

woah woah are you saying skyrim music isn't an opera?

I'll bet you 50 shillings it has a opera

[strange jay]

I havent even gotten to that part yet, but i think i'll simply go back to do the usual casual rp with my closest friend until then :]

[hushed mason]

I play an old version of the rules, so there are fewer games available to play.

[glass granite]

Yeah you play 3.5e right?

[hushed mason]

I do!

[glass granite]

I’ve been considering learning it

Just for fun

[jovial shadow]

I hear you. I refused to play 3e through 4e and only thought about 5e when it came out, because people were going goo ga ga over it. By the time I decided to get over AD&D and Basic and try to play, the UA's for revised classes came out. I decided to wait for 2024 books. Still have nostalgia for decending AC and the Attack Matrices in old TSR days

[hushed mason]

It is fun. 🙂

[feral fulcrum]

You could also look into Pathfinder 1E, which is, as far as I'm aware, basically 3.5e with the name filed off. If you want expanded communties to search for.

[unreal mantle]

Is there anywhere in this server to make a content sharing request? Is that allowed?

[hushed mason]

But I don't want to play Pathfinder. I want to play 3.5. 🙂

[glass granite]

No, that’s against TSO and server rules

[unreal mantle]

Thanks

[jovial shadow]

Monk's capstone at 20th level is just fire

[grizzled lance]

i want to be monkey

[glass granite]

I do like it

[grizzled lance]

whos the new class

[hoary totem]

UA testers, which is your favourite UA subclass that never made it to official material?

[grizzled lance]

city domain cleric

[humble cairn]

What do you mean? The newest class that has been released is the updated Artificer.

[grizzled lance]

the "new" monk

the Pugilist

[feral fulcrum]

I beleive you mean Sub-class. Not Class.

[humble cairn]

Do you mean the Monk as has been updated to the 2024 rules? Or the playtest monk?

[grizzled lance]

its says class

[humble cairn]

Pugilist is not an official class.

[vital valve]

Hello chat! Newbies here, where's the main chat?

[grizzled lance]

still wanna wanna see it

o staring with a d8 punch is kinda crazy

[humble cairn]

Ask in #third-party since it's a third party class.

[feral fulcrum]

Then buy it on D&D beyond or the like.

[grizzled lance]

done

now what

[burnt valley]

Pugilist needs to take more levels of exhaustion tbh

Its too op

[grizzled lance]

2d6 fist damage

[burnt valley]

Thats like the best martial class atp

It can reliably tank with the temp hp

[fossil hollow]

Eh? A maul and greatsword does same amount of damage

[grizzled lance]

yeah but it can just auto max its damage with one point of its "moxie"

[fossil hollow]

Ye, and?

[grizzled lance]

pair it with someone like its sucker punch where you can turn a normal hit into a crit

and where you roll 3 times instead of 2

thats 36 damage in one hit

[humble cairn]

This is probably more appropriately discussed in #third-party

[feral fulcrum]

Read it, learn it, maybe use it in a game.

[grizzled lance]

dread it

run from it

[vital valve]

Newbies here, how to make healing potions?

[blissful ibex]

Source: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#BrewingPotionsofHealing

A character who has proficiency with the Herbalism Kit can create a Potion of Healing. Doing so requires using that kit and 25 GP of raw material over the course of 1 day (8 hours of work).

the time on that can be cut in half if you have two people working on it though

Characters can combine their efforts to shorten the crafting time. Divide the time needed to create an item by the number of characters working on it. Normally, only one other character can assist you, but the DM might allow more assistants.

[vital valve]

Thank you! What about making Holy Water?

[feral fulcrum]

Ceremony covers that.

[blissful ibex]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/14760-ceremony

[vital valve]

Ceremony?

[hushed mason]

Good old Brew Potion and Bless Water.

[vital valve]

My party use only Player's Handbook. Is there a way to brew it without using magic?

[fossil hollow]

iirc, you can just spend time and money

PHB, should be under crafting equipment

[blissful ibex]

Walk up to your nearest temple and hand them 25gp

[vital valve]

We are in Barovia 🥹 There is no shop to buying

[blissful ibex]

aah, yeah; the writers of that book absoutly hate people wanting to actually spend the money they get for some reason

might be out of luck on that end then >.>
RAW the only two ways to get holy water accessable that early on are by buying it or via ceramony

[vital valve]

Thank you for answering TwT

[fossil hollow]

yeah, no way strahd's gonna let people make holy water in his plane

[vital valve]

I have a lot of questions but I don't want to spam questions in the chat TwT can I continue asking you guys?

[woven flint]

Ti-Moth 👁️

[fossil hollow]

yes Tokii?

[woven flint]

I have no Idea if I want to make Sentry a Pugilist or stick with Forge Druid lol

On one hand
We'd have a person with above d8 Hitpoints
On the other
We'd have a Druid

The idea of being a Warforged and punching the hell outta someone sounds insanely fun

[near karma]

If you're playing 2014 5e, you don't even need ceremony because holy water says, "A cleric or paladin may create holy water by performing a special ritual. The ritual takes 1 hour to perform, uses 25 gp worth of powdered silver, and requires the caster to expend a 1st-level spell slot."

[fossil hollow]

i havent even decided wether or not im gonna include pugilist lmao (highly likely thogh)

[woven flint]

Don't tease me, Otherwise I'll have to wait until Sovis dies

[hushed mason]

That sounds far more reasonable.

[woven flint]

Honestly, thats a rule I'd port over

[blissful ibex]

which is literally just ceremony, except as a class feature
that's silly, probably just made it a spell so it's accessable by the ritual feat XD

[woven flint]

Maybe add Druids to it, Idk though

[fickle heart]

It's in XTGE, so it doesn't need to be exactly ported over.

[hushed mason]

Druids didn't have it in 3/3.5

[woven flint]

TAMMS,
I hope you can make next waterdeep session
We missed that Sassy Saytr smh

[fickle heart]

Err, I mixed that up.

Though Ceremony can be ritual cast to save the spell slot.

[fossil hollow]

bag man tiiiime

[vital valve]

Playing 2024 rules rn, Thank you 🥺

[hushed mason]

It's worth asking the DM if they would allow you this 2014 rule because honestly, I think it's an oversight that it wasn't included in the 2024 book.

[rain fox]

hello kinda want to discuss possible character creation stuff

so pls dm me if you consider

[hushed mason]

Holy water is pretty basic, and it seems ridiculous to have to purchase another rule book to gain access to it.

[vital valve]

I will telling that to my dad!

[woven flint]

#character-discussion is a great place to ask for help!

[limber trail]

:(

[woven flint]

Just you wait, Hokrun is gonna get snatched

[fossil hollow]

it is barovia though

[limber trail]

Let me be so clear you can deal with the consequences of your own actions

[fossil hollow]

"why wont friend shake my hand?"

[limber trail]

Absolutely not

[fossil hollow]

anyway, cant wait to see yall look for the runaway nimblewright

[hushed mason]

I don't know where your hand has been...

[fossil hollow]

the bag

[limber trail]

Oh of course that got away didn’t it

[woven flint]

Uh, I've only searched a FEW bodies...

[limber trail]

We have the meeting first

[fossil hollow]

-# ... meeting?

[woven flint]

The Nimblewright is the construct we're looking for, doof

[limber trail]

In the city of the dead

[fossil hollow]

... ah

[limber trail]

Yeah and it wasn’t there which means we need to find it

I’m gonna be honest I was so hyperfixated on my conspiracy theory that I told Ti that I forgot about the robot 💀

[fossil hollow]

lmao

[fossil hollow]

hokrun staring at a board with pins, thread, and upside down newspapers, with jarlaxle in the middle:

[limber trail]

I mean kinda

[somber mesa]

Kinda forgot, did the downtime rules get merged into the Bastion rules (aside from crafting) in the 2024 books?

[fossil hollow]

no

[limber trail]

If I wasn’t doing that for the campaign I’m DMing at the moment I’d do it for Waterdeep

[woven flint]

Bastions are optional

[limber trail]

Alas I just plan a conspiracy of my own

[woven flint]

You and "Plan" in the same sentence don't belong together

[fossil hollow]

keep them coming, i need more bullets to shoot you with

[somber mesa]

So what section covers the downtime stuff in the 2024 books?

[limber trail]

at what point have i gone against a plan

[woven flint]

I don't trust you >:p

[fossil hollow]

uhhhh. that one time you no clipped out of the map plan

[hushed mason]

What are you talking about?!

[fossil hollow]

hm? dont you know sometimes characters and monsters get hit with Meld with Assets and get sent into walls or the floor, or even off the map?

[hushed mason]

No, I don't know that.

[fossil hollow]

interesting

[vital valve]

can we using Divine Smite at range in the 2024 rules?

[fossil hollow]

with thrown weapons

[vital valve]

what!?

[fossil hollow]

yeet a spear, you can smite

[hot marlin]

Spears are good, use them

The best weapon in human history until the invention of the gun.

[vital valve]

They said only Melee?

[delicate owl]

in 2024 it says an attack with a melee weapon and unarmed strikes iirc

[hot marlin]

It's with a melee weapon. A spear is a melee weapon, even when thrown

[fossil hollow]

1 bonus action, Which you take immediately after hitting a target with a Melee weapon or an Unarmed Strike
a spear is still a melee weapon even if you throw it

its a ranged attack, made with a melee weapon

[hot marlin]

If the spell required a melee attack you would not be able to use it on a thrown spear.

But this is a melee weapon, no matter how you use it. In the same way that even if you try to bash someone's face with a longbow, the longbow remains a ranged weapon even when used for a melee attack

[feral fulcrum]

Spears are not loved enough.

[fossil hollow]

where is my thermoplye

[vital valve]

wow okay

[fossil hollow]

or however you spell it

[feral fulcrum]

Where's my Cú Chulainn

[fossil hollow]

dead in the first season

[hot marlin]

In Greece. Near the city of Lamia

There are hot springs there. Which is nice. Don't know if you can bathe though

[feral fulcrum]

But jokes aside, there's a reason the Swedes spanked everyone with Polearms

[fossil hollow]

poor lancer

stick still big stick

[vital valve]

Noted 📝!

[feral fulcrum]

Good ole pointy stick, nothing beats that.

[fossil hollow]

how about bigger, faster, explody pointy stick

[vital valve]

want to healing familiar! Can do?

[fossil hollow]

best i can offer you is the spell transfer familiars inherently get to transfer your healing spells

[vital valve]

Can familiar regain hit points when long rest? 🦆

[fossil hollow]

all creatures can

[vital valve]

Woah

[fossil hollow]

the question is wether or not your familiar will survive until you take one

[vital valve]

take one?

[fossil hollow]

<- DM who has a long list of killed familiars and a tally of how many times they died

<- also has had familiars die on them on the regular

[vital valve]

Yes but can I healing them mid combat?

[fossil hollow]

yes

nothing says they cant be healed

[past zephyr]

if a spear is a pointy stick, does that mean a quarterstaff is just a stick? if so why do they do the same amount of damage?? (there might be a reason i'm new)

[fossil hollow]

have you been hit with a stick?

like, a walking stick

[past zephyr]

no

[fossil hollow]

stick hurts. with the right hit it can snap your neck

[vital valve]

Because they don't have organ? We summon them.

[fossil hollow]

constructs and undead dont have organs, and neither do elementals, but they can be healed (unless something specifically says they cant be healed)

[past zephyr]

i feel like a spear would also hurt