dnd-discussion

[fossil hollow]

you dont need to get the PHB off the bat. The Free Rules exists

[woven flint]

Hmmm
This server is probably one of the better places to look for games, even has a section dedicated to it, but I'd suggest learning to play first

[rough basalt]

There's a free basic rules that can get you started

[still stump]

I’m pretty broke, how much is a dnd game? The handbook, characters and tablet or table or wtv it’s called..?

[cursive thorn]

My longest running game was with absolute strangers from my LGS, we have now been playing for 6 years.

[fossil hollow]

DnDBeyond Free Rules

[short glade]

Phb about $30 if I remember right.

[naive cedar]

it also depends on where you live

[fossil hollow]

you dont need to buy the handbooks if youre starting out
Provided the link to the rules here, and as for sessions, that would depend where you live
#dnd-discussion message

[rough basalt]

But you can get by off free rules if you don't mind minimal choices in some departments.

[fossil hollow]

ok, Gator, not helping

[still stump]

Canada

[naive cedar]

timezones are the most important

[wanton sorrel]

wait are we in dnD discussions?

[fossil hollow]

Ah, here where i live in canada, its around 20-30 CAD a session. But you dont need to find a paid game

[rough basalt]

You only "need" a PHB once your settled into the hobby. The free rules are enough to get settled.

[fossil hollow]

that link sends you to a specific message in here

[still stump]

Woah that’s a lot, what do I start reading?

[wanton sorrel]

oh ok

[crimson gulch]

The new starter set the keep on the borderlands is a great starting point too

[naive cedar]

the majority of people dont play paid games

[crimson gulch]

I ran over a dozen learn to play one shots with that in the last few months

[wanton sorrel]

I like to buy physical and digital copies

[fossil hollow]

Typically you start reading what interest you and creating a character section. Theres also no need to finish it all in one sitting or memorize it, its basically something you can always go back to if you forget

[short glade]

The long and short of it is:
ya have thing ya want to do.

You roll a 20sided die and add the modifier for the related skill-your dm will tell you the related skill they want.

That number gets compared to a DC (you won’t see it) then the dm tells ya if you succeeded or failed at what you were trying to do.

Thats the vast majority of D&D.

[wanton sorrel]

roll a 1d20 acrobatics check to avoid the trap

[woven flint]

Hey, Ti, can you guess what spell I'm gonna use when we resume in Titanic Upheaval?

[umbral girder]

DnD is
DM sets the scene
Players responds
DM says what happens and if a dice roll is needed.
Then repeat.

[fossil hollow]

looking over your spell list now

[umbral girder]

Fish

[woven flint]

As if you don't know..
What spell did I use yesterday because the scenario was perfect?

[lament sapphire]

Player responds
DM repeats the scene...

[fossil hollow]

oh, SWS?

[woven flint]

HELL YEAH

Steel Wind Strike is awesome

[fossil hollow]

watch it all be nat 1s to balance it out

[woven flint]

I've still got two uses of lucky left, buddy boy

[umbral girder]

2 more Nat 1s I see

[fossil hollow]

snake eyes

[woven flint]

The Three Nat 20's yesterday didn't even use up all of Malakeths luck, he's a Harengon, he EMBODIES luck!

[fossil hollow]

Poor Hallowed Dark

[umbral girder]

“Lucky rabbit’s foot? I have two of them!” -Malaketh probably

[woven flint]

[Insert Hakari Jackpot, but instead its Malaketh]

[fossil hollow]

With this scale I summon

[woven flint]

With my gambling addiction I summon...!

[blissful ibex]

Awww, Dangit!

[woven flint]

I should've Aura farmed Waaaay more with the Three Nat 20's in a row with Malaketh, but he's not an Aura Farmer, he's too humble, he doesn't even believe he's that good with a sword lol

[fossil hollow]

Big talk from the True Striker

[umbral girder]

Aura farming reminds me of the Fey Ranger I did for Moth’s one shot

Was a pain for the final fight and it was amusing

[fossil hollow]

I cannot believe he failed his STR check against the 8 STR ranger

[woven flint]

Actually, didn't Malaketh also Crit that guy once before knocking him out?

So he Crit all 4 of them, I think? Lol

[umbral girder]

Dude couldn’t do a dc13 strength save it seemed

[woven flint]

The 4th just wasn't in a row

[umbral girder]

Actually I think my 8 was in Cha not Str but it’s been a while

My rangers usually have 12 in strength

[woven flint]

My Druid with no modifiers in Strength always succeeded his Strength saving throws for some reason lol

Vaskhir was just different ig

[stoic raptor]

if ur the lord of goofy, then where is lord of donald and the keyblade lords...?

[fossil hollow]

Donald's too busy casting Zettaflare

[woven flint]

:3 I have no idea what you're talking about

[fossil hollow]

Kingdom Hearts

oh, 95 HP wizard, perfect

[woven flint]

I forgot to roll HP Regen again after his turn, actually lmao

I keep forgetting the Artifact allows him to restore 2d6 hp at the end of each turn

[fossil hollow]

i will staple it to Malaketh for next session, dw

[woven flint]

It's honestly REALLY bad to forget because it's free healing

[fossil hollow]

its only been... 2 rounds since the start of combat

[woven flint]

Yeah, but I forget EVERY session

[umbral girder]

Gonna be fun having you guys fight Strahd

[woven flint]

I need someone to call me out sometimes

"Hey, you dumb frail wizard, as long as you're conscious, you regain 2d6 at the end of every turn!"

[blissful ibex]

IIRC my group chunked like a third of his health and prevented him from healing or running away when he showed up to taunt us at like level 3~4 XD

[umbral girder]

Skill issue on the DM’s part

[naive cedar]

strahd being a wizard is so funny to me for some reason

hes a vampire nerd

[umbral girder]

I compare him to an Eldritch knight personally

[wanton sorrel]

ah vampires... the best cool looking things.

[naive cedar]

i love vampires

[hot marlin]

I love killing vampires

They're always like "Ahaha, I shall turn into mist" and then I whip out my magical weapon that forces shapeshifters back into their true form, preventing them from reaching that stupid coffin of theirs.

[fossil hollow]

thats when they start running up walls

[hot marlin]

That's when I show them that I also can run up walls.

[fossil hollow]

forgot youre a monk main

[umbral girder]

Or at will walking through walls

[fossil hollow]

speaking of which, hows the wizard

[hot marlin]

I was just about to write "monk main, remember?"

I've got a backstory, all my ideas are together, I'll make it on DDB tomorrow. Been busy running a shadowrun game during the week end

Someone asked about Shadowrun here, that gave me the urge to run it

[jovial shadow]

Monks can go along the walls, but not up. Like not ground floor up to the top of a ten story building

[hot marlin]

What makes you think that?

[fossil hollow]

they can though?

While you aren’t wearing armor or wielding a Shield, you gain the ability to move along** vertical surfaces** and across liquids on your turn without falling during the movement.

[hot marlin]

Let's give the lich time to explain its reasoning. Then we can send it back to its phylactery

[fossil hollow]

Well, it seems the counterspell worked

[blissful ibex]

so long as you're back on solid ground before the movement ends, you 100% can run up walls

espeically if you double dash action >:3

[hot marlin]

To quote a great philosopher: "When it comes to so-called ‘immortals’, do not fear them. Those that call themselves by such a title have purged themselves of the most useful and primal their brain, the parts that remember the cold fear, the old night, the teeth in the dark. The swordsman should be a great friend to fear and pain, so when they inevitably find him, he will not collapse at their remembrance, like a pathetic mewling thing, as I have seen these majestic godlings do"

This is why killing vampires is fun.

[smoky timber]

Sorry to interrupt. I just came up with a pun. What do you call a huge request? A Tarr-Ask!

[fossil hollow]

im rolling up a new character

my poor barbarian mind could have never handled that visiouc mockery

[gleaming cosmos]

im playing a tabaxi monk atm who also for some reason got speed boots so if my math is even remotely close she is able to have over 300ft of movement:D

[jovial shadow]

Save the imagination for your DM'ing. lol. Anyway look up the word "along" and then understand why it doesn't mean going up.

[hot marlin]

Uh? Save the imagination? What does that mean?

[marble lion]

Lich be nicer

[hot marlin]

I see. Well, as for the definitions of along, wiktionary gives us these two:

By the length of; in a line with the length of; lengthwise next to.

In a line with, with a progressive motion on; onward on; forward on.

[blissful ibex]

they replied to the wrong message, was likely meant for the wall runnign stuff

[hot marlin]

Which to me means that a monk can perfectly run up a wall.

[fossil hollow]

ew

[wanton sorrel]

i don't even want to know the beep is that

[blissful ibex]

spam bot

[marble lion]

Along also refers to crossing horizontal surface, but as the description specifies vertical, i dont see the issue

The one thing that monk cant do following this is spiderclimb the ceiling

But walls? Yes

[fossil hollow]

cant do full pipes yet

would probably need to use the jumping rules, but yeah, cant full pipe a tunnel

[blissful ibex]

and they can't end their turn on the vertical surface, they fall if they stop moving

[hot marlin]

People sometimes have very strange readings of D&D rules.

[marble lion]

They can but fall

[fossil hollow]

and monks have Slow Fall anyway

[minor cargo]

Maybe after this, we can all get

along.

👀

[marble lion]

Which is usually fine since they are monks

[fossil hollow]

i need 3d6 from you please

[marble lion]

6 times 4d6, drop lowest, please

[fossil hollow]

nah, next person to make a pun gives me 3d6

[blissful ibex]

It's the Number of Marut about to be dropped on you for breaking the punning edicts

[fossil hollow]

that would be a flat 60

[blissful ibex]

true XD

[wanton sorrel]

0_0 lol

[marble lion]

Mine is you died for it, roll a new char

[proven mountain]

Running up, down and along walls is a key Monk feature lol

[undone rain]

I once double stacked smite on a ballista bolt and just ripped through a whole horde of big spiders. It was awesome

[minor cargo]

But yeah, there's also a general D&D thing where the rules tell you what you can do, generally not what you can't do. So I think it's fair to read "along" to be more generous. If the designers wanted to be more restrictive in the rules, you'd expect them to be explicit about it.

(I'm blanking on the word to describe a set of rules that say "yes" rather than "no". 😩 )

[undone rain]

Its dnd you can do almost whatever you want

This is the same world where you can drown in 5 feet of water as a 8'0 goliath because you roll a one

[jovial shadow]

Wiktionary, Co-pilot and other things are not Dictionaries. This is from the online dictionary: preposition
1.
moving in a constant direction on (a road, path, or any more or less horizontal surface).

[hot marlin]

Wiktionary is absolutely a dictionary

[wanton sorrel]

including sending them to space on the moon to fight a boss fight that no one knows.

[undone rain]

Indeed and your allowed to ping me when replyin its all fine and dandy with me

[hot marlin]

Uh? You can't actually do that

FIrst off because rolling a one is just a failure, there is no such thing as a critical failure

[undone rain]

Well dont look at me i heard it from a story

[fossil hollow]

whoever made that story is likely farming upvotes

[gleaming cosmos]

i think it just depends on how the dm and table wants to play

[undone rain]

Either way whatever can happen in dnd is my point

[wanton sorrel]

inclduing all the wars... the poltical from other factions.... and serious conquest between kingdoms... D&D

I wonder if there is such a thing of D&D conquest....

[hot marlin]

I am still a bit baffled by that comment. "The" online dictionary? Which one?

Wiktionary is also an online dictionary, is it not?

[undone rain]

I mean it should be

[hot marlin]

Nothing makes sense about that sentence. Especially that little "1", which clearly indicates that this sources had other definitions for that word

[blissful ibex]

forward, on (as in "move along") or in a line matching the length or direction of (as in "walking along the road.") https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/along
there, that's an actual in print american dictionary.

[viral verge]

Make sure you’re using the 2025 edition of the dictionary. It’s compatible with the 2014 edition but the words are a little more powerful in the 2025

[undone rain]

What changes with each edition btw. Gameplay? Races? Classes? Do we get new races or classes every new edition

[minor cargo]

Lich Lord is probably talking about Google's built in dictionary. You can check out more info here, but basically Google scrubs for definitions and generally just grabs what it thinks is best. It's ironic that we mentioned how co-pilot (an LLM) is not a dictionary because, in some ways, Google's dictionary kind of works the same way.

Anyways, the definition that specifically says something about horizontal surfaces isn't even the top result. This one is probably from the Collins English Dictionary (here). Other definitions like, yeah, Merriam Webster linked above, say otherwise.

[naive cedar]

yeah please dont use google's default dictionary as your primary source. merriam webster is good

id say wiktionary counts as a dictionary although merriam webster is better

[fathom gate]

I cast fireba-

[naive cedar]

i cast eldritch bl-

[fathom gate]

Oh you’re a warlock?

[naive cedar]

nah im a cleric. so i cast guiding b

[fathom gate]

I cast unbless

[undone rain]

I cast smi-

[minor cargo]

Typically some core mechanics and design choices change.

For example, D&D 5E has the concept of "bounded accuracy", which basically was a design choice to keep AC from getting really, really high (or from "scaling too much"). There are other design changes like this and it all has a domino effect to having the classes presented differently, species written differently, etc.

IMO new editions are more about general "philosophy" of the game and it's really more of an art than a science. ✌️

[naive cedar]

i cast spirit guardians

[hot marlin]

Actually I've sometimes found glaring mistakes in Merriam Webster

[undone rain]

Ah haa. Thanks

[fathom gate]

What smite? Cant be divine smite because you dont cast it before attacking

[naive cedar]

example? not that i dont believe you. im just curious

[blissful ibex]

I'd cast, but someone would want to have an etymological debate over the meaning of the word 'cast' for the next 100 rounds of combat and we'd both be dead by then.

[naive cedar]

i mean oxford or cambridge would probably be the best dictionary

[blissful ibex]

game is written with American English and not Brittish English though IIRC
to which there is a slight difference

[naive cedar]

that is fair. webster is also fine

[hot marlin]

Oh, my bad. The one big mistake I was thinking about came from Oxford

[undone rain]

Thunderous smite

[fathom gate]

I made that mistake once, i attracted water and air spirits to attack us

[hot marlin]

That giant mistake is referring to shonen manga as a genre.

[naive cedar]

lol

[undone rain]

Oh crap lol

[naive cedar]

not surprised. thats a misunderstanding due to language differences

[hot marlin]

They've corrected it since then, I think

[naive cedar]

ive seen actual anime fans make that mistake all the time

[fathom gate]

Yea…i changed spells so it didnt happen again…also i sorta almost killed 2 of my party members

What is everyones favourite or funniest moment playing dnd? (That you remember)

[gleaming cosmos]

im gonna sound like a toddler when i say this but our goblin for some godforsaken reason said yes when the dm asked if she was lactose intolerant after eating a whole cheese plate at the bbeg's ball we were attending. you can imagine how that went (this is recent i just have horrible memory)

[proper forum]

Sigh... it has happened again

Someone in my group generated AI art of their character

[undone rain]

Disappointing

[naive cedar]

ew

[proper forum]

Hey at least they're not generating AI art of people's characters without permission like our DM did... several times now...

[undone rain]

I just use bg3 for my characters art. Well as far as i can go atleast

[hot marlin]

I find myself nostalgic for the days where we didn't even bother having art for our characters

[gleaming cosmos]

im thankful i have a party member who spam draws to get out of art block

[proper forum]

I've said it several times now but I'll say it again. Why? Why am I the only one in our group who doesn't love AI? Why are they all in full support of it?

[hard oasis]

guys, its auction time, one of the players got a magical amulet, there are six of them in the world and they all give +1 to their respective ability score, for example a light blue amulet, when wearing gives +1 INT score (not the modif), my question is, how much gp is this worth?

[naive cedar]

I always use either bg3 or heroforge

[granite steeple]

I need a campaign idea if you have one dm

[fossil hollow]

i would look at the category lower than the manuals that give +2 to a score

[naive cedar]

i used to use neverwinter lol

[undone rain]

Oh yeah hero forge i forgot of that. Also very smart

[proper forum]

Our DM also uses AI for all his NPC's

[hot reef]

/shrug some people find it fine to use

[undone rain]

No offense but i have to be honest. Their too lazy to do it themselves

[proper forum]

I think the reason why they all use it so much is because my country is poor and most people here don't have the money to commission an artist. And if they do, we are all taught to spend our money on actually important things like food and electricity and rent and such

[jovial shadow]

Hm. That would be interesting

[undone rain]

I mean heroforge works too tbh

And thats free

[proper forum]

Art isn't seen as a nessecity, so people here don't want to spend their money on it. At least that's what I think is happening.

[hot reef]

Not everyone likes its art style

Free art is certainly appealing

[gleaming cosmos]

both my dms just use pinterest

[granite steeple]

I need an idea for a campaign(im the dm) and i can't think of 1 so if u have any good ideas for a campaign pls lmk by dming me

[crimson gulch]

Dragons attack, stop them by going into dungeons full of monsters

[naive cedar]

dolldivine also exists

[granite steeple]

in my private dms

[proper forum]

If any of you want to use AI because you don't want to pay for professional artist, you know what? I will do the art. Free of charge. I don't care. I just don't want you to use AI.

[short dune]

Hey guys I’m new to this, how can I create a character?

[undone rain]

Now thats smth i can respect

[proper forum]

What do you know and what do you not know? What do you need help with exactly?

[jovial shadow]

See if this can help? https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character#CreateYourCharacter

[timber turtle]

would it be fun for every party member to a fighter? just a like a squadron of soldiers

[short dune]

Well I know absolutely nothing lol, but I’ve seen the character sheet so I got an idea of how that works

To my knowledge there’s some math involved when creating the stats? But I’m not sure

[jovial shadow]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/966723268675510372

[gleaming cosmos]

🇫🇮?

[jovial shadow]

Yep. Not a lower levels tho. Sleep dooms you

[proper forum]

Realistic D&D

Remember guys there is no magic in real life

[undone rain]

Wdym im gandalf

I can cast fireball easy peasy

[minor cargo]

There are a lot of positive stories floating around here and other spaces with “mono parties”. Highly recommend!

[timber turtle]

one guy would be the arbalester so he has a crossbow, another one knows first aid, and one person is the captain

[undone rain]

Peak

[proper forum]

That wasn't a fireball, that was you eating a spicy burrito and regretting it a few minutes later

[undone rain]

Okay okay let me try again pulls out the alchohol bottle of fireball

[proper forum]

So you were ACTUALLY planning to a realistic historical D&D campaign? As a history person I see this as an absolute win. I really hope it's doable.

[undone rain]

One thing i would love is dnd taking place in the actual medieval times but the fantasy creatures would be what the medieval people believed in

And they would look almost the exact same as they do in manuscripts

[timber turtle]

castles and dragons

[proper forum]

I tried suggesting it to my friends but they Saud that then I would just be removing all the interesting things from D&D. There would be no magic whatsoever and no raves other than humans. I agree with them.

[undone rain]

Well true. Perhaps as a video game would be better tho

[fossil hollow]

it probably wouldnt be dnd

[proper forum]

Yeah there are several of those I'm sure

[fossil hollow]

seems like warhammer to me

[undone rain]

Idk about warhammer but no that wouldnt be dnd actually

But as a video game i could see it. Havent found it yet tho

[proper forum]

Kingdom Come Deliverance is literally right there

[jovial shadow]

This used to be 90% of the case in the old editions. My mindset is that D&D takes place in the medieval period, or some time around there. But that's not the case with most people today

[fossil hollow]

its almost like its taking place on another setting

[undone rain]

I meant as in fantasy creatures in it. Kcd is smth i already know and is like my top 2nd fav game

[proper forum]

Canonically it doesn't even take place on Earth so you should not be expecting it to be realistic

[proper forum]

The Witcher games. That's just the Witcher.

[jovial shadow]

True but the World of Greyhawk shared similar settings as the middle ages

[proper forum]

It's still not earth though is it?

[jovial shadow]

Wow

[proper forum]

But look, the cool thing about D&D is that you can make is whatever you want. You can try to make it realistic if you want, but I don't know how far you can take it.

[undone rain]

Idk if you quite understand what i mean. Im kind of easy to misunderstand. What im sayin is i want a game thats similiar to the kcd. Literally taking place in the historical middle ages, armor is historical, christianitys a big thing etc etc but the so called fantasy creatures in that would be exactly what the medieval people believed in. Their folk tales such as trolls or that one creature with a human face on their torso. And while trolls and such exist in dnd and things too. I want it just to be what the medieval people believed in

[jovial shadow]

I know exactly what you mean. fr

[proper forum]

Can't think of something like that, good luck finding it though

[undone rain]

Yeah i figure it dosent exist lol but i hope one day

[wanton sorrel]

i think they mean first edtion rule sets...

[proper forum]

Read above

[vale seal]

Gonna get eberron and the local game store has the alt cover as the same price as standard, in your opinions which shouldn't I get

[fossil hollow]

might as well get the alt cover

[wanton sorrel]

i had no choice to get the alt cover for spelljammers... but i'm fine with it.

[wanton sorrel]

medieval??? where humans hate witches?

[fossil hollow]

you mean people hated smart women

[hot marlin]

Actually the history of witch hunts is a lot sadder than that

While women were proportionally more targetted, there is no actual proof that women with knowledge and education were more targetted

[undone rain]

Lasted a good while too

[fossil hollow]

i know it involved a lot of people being labelled as witch so its easier to burn them

[undone rain]

The salem witch trials

Gods almighty they were awful

[hot marlin]

Mostly, witch hunts were about neighbours accusing each other, conmen getting their money by convincing people that there was a witch threat and family feuds

[fossil hollow]

yeap

[undone rain]

In one game, kcd you have to actually save someone from a witch trial and it just shows how dumb people were

[hot marlin]

Basically for those people it was easy. Get into a town, convince people that their problem was proof of a witch being among them, stroke up the resentment, cause the moral panic, get the money and the moral legitimacy, go to the next town. Repeat ad nauseam

[undone rain]

And dont get me started on their dumb tests

[fossil hollow]

Im reminded of the Monty Python scene

[wanton sorrel]

you might have to roll a flat 20... CHA was very hard at those times.

[undone rain]

Their just drown to death or drown to death

[hot marlin]

Moral panics mostly have two driving forces. The people who are actually believers are one but the opportunists who stroke the panic for profit are generally the actual driving forces. Nowadays we call those people "grifters".

[undone rain]

"She turned me into a newt!"

[jovial shadow]

Hm. This went to an extreme out of nowhere.

[marble lion]

Yeah honestly

[wanton sorrel]

you must of watch way too many holy grail movie

[marble lion]

Anyway you can definitely do this

Dnd doesnt need you to make fantasy lore in a new setting

[undone rain]

Trust me ik almost the entire black knight scene

[marble lion]

You could absolutely like a mythological take on history of europe and run it as dnd

[undone rain]

Cool cool

[marble lion]

As dark or lighthearted as you want

[fossil hollow]

it did draw from a lot of those folklore. And theres enough neat folklore in europe alone

Between the Germans, Norse, some Roman, English

[marble lion]

You can include witchtrial cruelty and prejudice
Or you can exclude all that

[undone rain]

Sweeeeet

[marble lion]

Its really just what you want in the game
I dont see the issues

[undone rain]

Idk i dont want too dark but thanks

[marble lion]

Also yeah it is pretty much witcher

[potent vector]

More about taking land from Widowed wives who got to keep it normally. They were already somewhat mystically referred to, so it sadly wasn't a stretch

[marble lion]

Witcher is the closest ive come across by far

[fossil hollow]

Witcher's author is polish

[marble lion]

Real folktales, downtoearth visuals for most

[hot marlin]

Actually widows were not particularly more targeted

[marble lion]

Pretty realistic medieval folk

[fossil hollow]

What about Windows 11?

oh, widows. Not windows

[marble lion]

Were talking middleages here, windows 98

[potent vector]

I'm referring to Salem Witch trials, not the European witch hunts (two completely different things)

[fossil hollow]

... Widows 11. its Oceans 11, but all widows trying to prove theyre not witches.

[undone rain]

Windows 1321

[fossil hollow]

oh god im cooking, i need to start writing the oneshot

[jovial shadow]

Windows 98 was the best

[undone rain]

Im a massive history nerd for the middle ages so i got some stuff ik

[naive cedar]

while widows may not have been proportionally more targeted, it is absolutely true that witch iconography became heavily associated with widows lol

and women were definitely more targeted than men

[undone rain]

Thats definetly true. While maybe a few were idk accused as wizards women were the most targeted

Atleast so i heard when i was in school

[potent vector]

For Salem Witch trials, ye, it was targeted towards widows. Euro witch hunts I'm not too familiar with but were distinctly different

[naive cedar]

i mean theres also definitely a trend of female magic users in fiction prior to the 20th century being consistently portrayed as more negative than male ones, although thats a different discussion altogether

and yeah, witch trials (in europe) were mostly about getting land and property

[undone rain]

Didnt matter if you were doing something good. If you were accused then your screwed

[naive cedar]

however, witches socially became associated with the groups that were the easiest to target (widows and unmarried older women)

[undone rain]

You could probably save a whole town from the plauge and still be killed

[naive cedar]

yeah the salem witch trials were a weird case. definitely one of the most extreme examples of moral panic over basically nothing

[potent vector]

Iirc also having cats keeping to keep out rats helped them not catch the plague sometimes reinforced the fact they might be witches

[naive cedar]

Yeah this is also a factor. people didnt understand germ theory and where the plague came from, and because cats were a common sight in cities and the like, people assumed they had something to do with it

although theres debate over how strong the cat and plague association actually was

also (not so) fun fact: the plague is still very much a real thing. a handful of people get it yearly in the united states

[potent vector]

The whole plague in the first place was theorized to have been caused by rat overpopulation because people killed too many cats, so definitely swingy

[jovial shadow]

Might be time to bring this back to D&D

[naive cedar]

tbh i think people probably believed it but it was based on whether they liked or didnt like cats to begin with

Okay uhhh. What dnd class would a cat be

[marble lion]

Rogue

[karmic pendant]

Honestly any

[marble lion]

Or monk

[potent vector]

That's the easy answer. I say a Bard with expertise in Stealth

[naive cedar]

imo they would be good arcane tricksters

[marble lion]

Cats arent spellcasters

[potent vector]

Ain't no way cats don't got a lil riz

[naive cedar]

Swashbuckler?

[marble lion]

Any class can have charisma

[potent vector]

Have you seen what they do to your head? Straight up School of Enchantment

[digital glen]

i like that my monk plays the bag pipes

[potent vector]

. . . Alright, I'll meet you half way ✅

[marble lion]

No just soft fur and cute noises

[naive cedar]

Exactly lol magic doesnt exist in the real world (sorry). Cats are enchanting and good at trickery

[marble lion]

Cats are idiots

[naive cedar]

No u

[weary estuary]

I want to access the books Volo's Guide to Monsters and Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes. How do I do that on DnD Beyond?

[potent vector]

Hey, that's the orange ones

[marble lion]

Im no fun at all

[crimson gulch]

had to pay for them years ago, they are unavalable now

[naive cedar]

What class pushes stuff off of tables

[weary estuary]

Can you give me access to them? Is that a thing?

[karmic pendant]

Any martial with the push weapon master

[fossil hollow]

Trying to come up with an Eberron campaign, all i got is something to do with Lightning Rails...

[crimson gulch]

i dont have them on dnd beyond

[potent vector]

I'm playing one rn if you want some ideas

[crimson gulch]

content is shared if you are in a campaign with someone that has them though

and they are paying for the premium subscription

[digital glen]

can i have a pet owl bear cub?

[fossil hollow]

sure 👀
First time trying to do something Eberron, so just looking at the books rn

[naive cedar]

i want a pet intellect devourer

[reef tundra]

Shout out to the time a player asked if he could make an animal handling check… on a Tarrasque

[naive cedar]

me irl

[potent vector]

Our campaign has us investigating the Mournlands, which is basically where someone dropped a magic petrification nuke on a nation (no one knows who rn, so that's why the war ended).

[halcyon bison]

Did you let them

[karmic pendant]

Who wouldn't want godzilla as a pet

[reef tundra]

He’s dead now

[halcyon bison]

Oh :(

[woven flint]

boo-womp

[karmic pendant]

What killed him?

[fossil hollow]

ooooh

[potent vector]

The Dragonmark prophecy is also another plot point you can use, since it's a vague prophecy that isn't actually spelled out but more tied to patterns in history you get to decide as a DM, save for the consistent appearance of Dragon Marks

[reef tundra]

Surprisingly not the Tarrasque, but a different titan

[karmic pendant]

Huh

[potent vector]

My DM let me choose a Homebrew Mark

[weary estuary]

That implies that it is possible to share both sourcebooks if the other person has them on DnD Beyond........

[halcyon forum]

it is

[crimson gulch]

that is correct

hence my comment content is shared if you are in a campaign with someone that has them though
and they are paying for the premium subscription

[karmic pendant]

Kind of content sharing is a thing with the dm subscription

[potent vector]

I see I have summoned an Ebberron Enthusiast

[weary estuary]

Okay, best ask someone else. Thanks for trying though!

[crimson gulch]

i dont pay for dnd beyond content i just buy physical books

its also gainst this servers tos to solicite folks for acces to their dnd beyond resourses

[hot reef]

-Sharn intrigue
-Sharn gang wars
-Truth of the Mournlands
-Karrnath politics and The Blood of Vol
-Quickstone
Right now my campaign’s spending the first few sessions in Q’barra, centered on the dragonshard mining and the ethics involved

[fossil hollow]

man, i gotta turn up my political intrigue game

[potent vector]

Sharn is the Kalashtar tied plane of dreams race right?

[weary estuary]

I want to access the books "Volo's Guide to Monsters "and "Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes". Does anyone have them online on DnD Beyond?

[hot reef]

No, Sharn is the large, vertical city

[potent vector]

Oh yeah, I can share my Campaign Bible if you want it

[fossil hollow]

that would be nice :O

[potent vector]

Dam, wait, what's their name then?

[hot reef]

Kalashtar

[karmic pendant]

I'm decently sure this is against dndbeyond tos

[fossil hollow]

cant solicit for content, against Terms of Service

[cursive thorn]

Its against TOS of this server to solicit for access FYI.

[potent vector]

No, I mean the second race that created them in the first place by inhabiting humanoids.

[hot reef]

Quori (the good ones)

[potent vector]

TY, lol

[hot reef]

67 of them fled from Dal Quor into the minds of Adaran monks

[fossil hollow]

... why did it have to be that number

[woven flint]

...
6-7?

[potent vector]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OywixofnCI6VdKqZIHgPyK3IukgCZKOCyMK2HlV4bJU/edit?usp=drivesdk

Campaign Bible ^

[timid current]

Things exist before memes. 67 was also the year the world expo was in Montreal. All kinds of things existed before this year that include the number

[fossil hollow]

danke

[minor cargo]

Take 6d7 damage.

[potent vector]

NGL, I rly want smth to do with them in our campaign

[keen kestrel]

Something feels wrong here

[potent vector]

I feel it's an underrepresented part of Ebberron based on what I've heard from the setting

[fossil hollow]

yeah, the Quori seem like a really interesting plot hook. Kinda excited for the Exploring Eberron book tomorrow

[crimson gulch]

super glad i went with exandria instead of ebberon for my wednesday game, that book getting delayed would have been a pain

[fresh pawn]

Hello I'm new I'm playing a druid wood elf any cantrip suggestions

[wanton sorrel]

1 dps spell and 1 support spell

[fresh pawn]

Thx I'm lvl 1 so I'm thinking about healing word

But my party says it's bad with their build

[blissful ibex]

yes! Roughly in order:
Utility: Guidance, Elemenatalism, Message, Mending, Control Flame, Mold Earth, Druidcraft
Damage: Starry Wisp, Shillelagh
Sprare the Dying can also be useful but there's a 100 ways to do that that doesn't require a cantrip slot

[fresh pawn]

@blissful ibex thx

Me and my party are new so we are still trying to figure it out

[jovial shadow]

At 1st level healing is fine

[fresh pawn]

Thx

[blissful ibex]

healing word and goodberry are basically good at any level
healing word lets you still take an action to hit something with a cantrip on the same turn; it's for bolstering someone who is getting very low or who has gone down, think of it as an emergency button

goodberry you can use before a long rest to carry a bit of healing into the next day, also doubles as food

[fresh pawn]

My build so far is spell slots gb and heal word
For cantrip produce flame and thorn whip

Gb is goodberry

[potent vector]

Curious, why would that be bad for the rest of the party's build exactly?

By their logic?

[hot reef]

I find the Quori pretty complex to run, since they’re such strong schemers

[fresh pawn]

We only have one weapon user

[blissful ibex]

I'd advise against produce flame, It requires you burn both a bonus action and an action to use
Thorn Whip is for Martial (melee) Druids to keep enemies close to you

[potent vector]

Martial? I mean, healing is always good.

[fresh pawn]

@potent vector they say I should focus on just heals and to not get wild shape for some reason

[potent vector]

You. Get Wildshape no matter what

[fresh pawn]

I'm still getting wild ahape

Shape

[wanton sorrel]

ah.... the healer of the party

[blissful ibex]

You might want to look at Wildfire Druid then, they're a good option for healer that also gets solid damage options

[jovial shadow]

Wildshape is an ability, not a spell

[fresh pawn]

Naw @wanton sorrel naw we already got a cleric

[fossil hollow]

nothing is wrong with getting healing spells

[blissful ibex]

Having healing spells spread across 2 characters is infinitely better than just 1

[fresh pawn]

Thx it's just our dragonborn rouge tell me

[wanton sorrel]

doesn't matter if cleric runs out of healing spells it's up to the druid to cover it's back...

[fresh pawn]

He told our sorcerer not to learn fireball

[potent vector]

????

[wanton sorrel]

??? whaat

[wary acorn]

Who is down for a one shot

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[potent vector]

Vro, that spell is literally said by the devs that it's unbalanced for that level and they're fine with it

[fresh pawn]

I know right

[potent vector]

Definitely grain of salt what they're saying

[wanton sorrel]

maybe there immune to fire

[fresh pawn]

He said it's to dangerous

For the party

[potent vector]

Now they aren't the ones that get to cast it are they?

[blissful ibex]

not really, just need to place it properly

[fresh pawn]

Btw he is a rouge

[timid current]

Hold on is your dragonborn rogue a vampire spawn

[blissful ibex]

Btw he's objectively wrong

[fresh pawn]

@timid current no

I'ma call him thx

[loud tendon]

Please dont ping people who have (no pings) in their name

[fresh pawn]

Sry

I'm new

[wanton sorrel]

i don't mind people ping me because i mute the discord website... 100% the best..

[fresh pawn]

Ok I called him and the rest of the party he apologized after the dm threatened him yippee

[halcyon forum]

oh yeah almost all the eberron adventures Ive run so far feature Quori. they are very natural antagonists

[fresh pawn]

Thx for telling me yall

[fossil hollow]

All i know is that i wanna do something regarding Cyre and Lightning Rails, so i was thinking of having the party try to act as guards while they rebuild it

[potent vector]

Funny idea, let them be the ones building it, which will let them be whisked into intrigue since it goes through the Mournlands.

And need to go on quests for resources/partnerships that aid it, or fight threats against it

[halcyon forum]

I really liked this one shot for lightning rail stuff https://www.dmsguild.com/en/product/249342/the-korranberg-chronicle-nightmare-on-the-mournland-express

[fossil hollow]

threw the idea with some potential players that they could be journalists trying to get the first scoop

[timid current]

It's all good friend 🙂

[fresh pawn]

Thx

Another question why are halflings good

[fossil hollow]

what?

[timid current]

Their goodness or badness is up to the players

[glass granite]

Cuz they smol and lucky

[fresh pawn]

My party said halfwings are good because of the feat lucky

Like reroll

[blissful ibex]

Luck. When you roll a 1 on the d20 of a D20 Test, you can reroll the die, and you must use the new roll.

[glass granite]

That^

[fresh pawn]

Oh god

[glass granite]

It’s not broken, but it is nice

[blissful ibex]

they can hide better and can more easily move through the space of enemies to reposition

[fresh pawn]

Now I know what my backup character is going to be

[potent vector]

No 1s is rly nice (plus their hide shenanigans)

[glass granite]

Still technically can get a one

[blissful ibex]

just requires back to back 1s

[potent vector]

Yeah, meant virtually (which ik isn't the same, srry)

[glass granite]

Merely a 1/400 chance

[fresh pawn]

Wait so thereticly if I make a monk halfling

With way of the shadow

[potent vector]

What is it Factoring Heroic Inspiration?

[glass granite]

1/8000

[blissful ibex]

or 1/160000 if you have advantage c:

[glass granite]

That too!

[potent vector]

Close enough to no 1s lol

[rugged hawk]

Alrighty, I have arrived! You may start creating homebrew in my honor.

[blissful ibex]

rare enough that if it happens it will be incredibly funny

[fresh pawn]

Getting two 1s in a row is like getting struck by lightning

[rugged hawk]

Getting two 1's in a row is fairly commonish. Getting three 1's in a row means the gods of fate are particularly spiteful toward you.

[blissful ibex]

but getting four in a row? That's comedy

[glass granite]

Comedy, and maybe a sign to avoid the casinos

[fresh pawn]

Wow I must be really unlucky

[rugged hawk]

Nonsense, you've clearly just used up your bad luck, so it's time to spin the wheel!

[fresh pawn]

I'm rolling a d20 right now guess what happened

[glass granite]

I like the way you think!

[blissful ibex]

Spin. The. Wheel!

"Aww, Dangit!"

[potent vector]

17

[blissful ibex]

12

[iron herald]

I recently got two double-nat-20s on advantage rolls in a row and did nearly 300 damage in a single round on my samurai-paladin fighting a vampire.

[fresh pawn]

Two nat 1s

[blissful ibex]

oop, responded to the wrong post q_q

[fresh pawn]

Not kidding

[stiff rock]

Am I the only person who rolls their dice until I get a string of bad rolls, so that statistically my next is higher?

I may be crazy

[rugged hawk]

Statistically, that changes nothing. The odds remain exactly the same each time.

[blissful ibex]

we had 3 nat 1s followed by 2 nat 20s all done consecutively

[stiff rock]

I know it remains a 1/20 chance to roll whatever number lol but it feels luckier if I get a bunch of awful rolls before rolling

[fresh pawn]

Question what counts as a warlock pact

[rugged hawk]

Yes, that feeling is called gambler's fallacy.

[woven flint]

I will forever mentioned my Three Crits in a Row with Steel Wind Strike

[fresh pawn]

Like divine

[stiff rock]

Any bargain wherein you exchange services for magical powers?

[blissful ibex]

'Pact' is basically the name of the Warlock subclasses and a few of the Eldritch Invocation trees

[stiff rock]

I was not aware that it was an actual term LOL

[fresh pawn]

Thx

[potent vector]

A mutual exchange of services between a Warlock and a powerful being that acts like a Patron (subclass name)

[fair summit]

Some shady mage offering magic in a back alley would count as a warlock pact as long as I use that for my warlock patron 😛

[rugged hawk]

the mistaken belief that if a certain event, such as a high or low number, occurs more frequently than normal during the past, it is less likely to happen in the future, or vice versa. In reality, each roll is an independent event with the same probability.

[digital glen]

can i have a pet owl bear cub?

[fair summit]

In fact this has become my next character idea

[stiff rock]

That is actually shocking to find out lol. I feel like a real gambler now

[blissful ibex]

if you play BG3 or can convince your DM

[digital glen]

thank you!

[rugged hawk]

Or just be your own DM

[stiff rock]

A friend of mine plays solo d&d, it's apparently really fun

[iron herald]

"Hey uh, wanna buy some spells?"

[halcyon bison]

You could probably justify a beast master ranger’s companion being an owlbear too

[rugged hawk]

I play solo D&D. In the middle of a Princes of the Apocalypse run right now with my Divine Sorc from Saltmarsh

[fresh pawn]

We have a rule amoung us PCs
KTM

It means
Kill the merchant
Always kill the merchant

[blissful ibex]

sadly they're monstrosities and not beasts

[potent vector]

Unless you're in Ebberron with Mark of Handling

[rugged hawk]

The merchant selling you magic items has all of them to use on you.

[potent vector]

They get to target low Int Monstrosities with speak with Animals/Animal Friendship

[fresh pawn]

Kill the merchant

[blissful ibex]

and that's when the Merchant is suddenly a retired level 20 adventurer with Legendary Resistances

[burnt valley]

Is it a melee fighter/barbarian?

[fresh pawn]

Against all types of dmg

[blissful ibex]

It's a Gestalt Wizard/EK Fighter, Take two attacks and a casting of Meteor Swarm

[fresh pawn]

We specifically made our build to have all types of dmg

[potent vector]

Legendary Resistances are smth that let enemies auto succeed saves, not a damage resistance

[halcyon bison]

Alternatively, now you’re a wanted criminal and being hunted by the guard for murder

[burnt valley]

so its a 2/3rds of a caster or is it 20 Wizard/20 EK?

[blissful ibex]

yeah, but getting smushed is funnier if they keep doing it c:

[fresh pawn]

I still kill the merchant

[glass granite]

…why?

[halcyon bison]

Plus it’s just mean :(

[unique tangle]

do you guys know of a dnd DM AI?

[blissful ibex]

the way gestalt works, it's a full caster; it has all the class features of both a fighter and a wizard

[rugged hawk]

Sure, it's called Zork.

[fresh pawn]

Jk the dm brought it up so we just tease them with it

[potent vector]

Careful not to rile people up (around here general consensus is even a poorly made campaign with good faith is better than an AI campaign)

[rugged hawk]

It is dark. You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

[potent vector]

What is a Grue

[burnt valley]

I see i see, make it Chronurgy(Wiz subclass) for good measure

[blissful ibex]

https://zork.fandom.com/wiki/Grue

[unique tangle]

its just me and my friend using AI to get used to dnd so when we join our first real campaign we will know what to do

[rugged hawk]

Something cultured. Go play Zork I, 2, and 3.

[fresh pawn]

Cause last campaign they sent the be holder after us at level 10

[burnt valley]

I hope somebody used Fog Cloud to stop it from using its ray attacks

[fresh pawn]

No sadly we lost the campaign 😿 😢

[burnt valley]

What happened?

[fossil hollow]

it will not help you

[fresh pawn]

The dm sent the be holder at us at lvl 10

[potent vector]

I mean, getting experience is always better. If your DM is even half well versed they should do fine helping you adjust.

[fossil hollow]

doable

[potent vector]

Definitely doable

[unique tangle]

the AI me and my friend have been building from scratch has actually taught us a ton about dnd already but were to lazy to keep using it becuase its getting just a little tacky trying to build it as we go

[fresh pawn]

It's a new dm

[fossil hollow]

i mean, the Basic Rules are free to view

[unique tangle]

building experience not learning rules

[fossil hollow]

and you build experience by actually playing

[jolly crypt]

Sun, moon, sky, land, sea, what are some other gods I should make for my pantheon? I'm not trying to go too heavy into religion for this setting, but I wanted the boxes checked

[unique tangle]

thats what were trying to do lol

but we want to play whenever we want, not wait for a dm

[fossil hollow]

AI is not that

[glass granite]

Death?

And by extension, maybe life?

Could be war too

[potent vector]

There's always that text method, where you chat and wait for them respond whenever. You'd be able to keep track of more than one at a time if one ever stagnates

[glass granite]

Deity of Nuggets too /j

[unique tangle]

that takes WAYYY to long me and my friend sit in vc and play dnd with our bot, we wouldnt want to wait for a dm over chat

[wanton sorrel]

prepare for initiative... the mega boss fight of a boss that taste so good... the french frie

[jolly crypt]

Good idea. I think I'll combine life and death seeing as how they're so closely related.

[potent vector]

Life/Death are a duality that's recommended

[potent vector]

There is also the classic Order, Chaos, and optional (very interesting) third of Entropy

[glass granite]

I do like the idea of them being one

“Remember you are dust (life) and to dust you shall return (death)” typa scenario, if you know what I mean

[rugged hawk]

No, entropy is what happens when perfect order is achieved

[halcyon bison]

Does entropy apply in a world with magic

[potent vector]

That-Which-Endures

Literal canonical force of Entropy

[hot reef]

Fire (can also represent warmth, living, impermanence, and other concepts that relate to flame)

[potent vector]

Tho Sun sometimes covers that. Doesn't have to tho.

[potent vector]

Also, would you clarify? Not sure what you mean by this.

[rugged hawk]

Under pefect order, entropy isn't simply possible, but inevitable. A system with no possible change is entropy.

[fossil hollow]

I thought it was the opposite:

2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

[jolly crypt]

Alternatively I was thinking of doing: War/Peace/Progress (human gods) Sun/moon/stars (sky gods) Life/death

[fossil hollow]

Entropy is when order dies

[potent vector]

I thought I was going crazy lol

[potent vector]

More like the process by which Order becomes Chaos (why it can be a third imo)

[fossil hollow]

fair nough

[wanton sorrel]

ture neutral!!!

[rugged hawk]

Perfect order is the death of both, because a system that cannot change is static. Heat death. A form of entropy.

[potent vector]

Progress could easily be Entropy imo, but I'm biased

[jolly crypt]

Or maybe. Love is the answer? Or zeal? For not quite a middle path, but... You know? Entropy feels like a funky fit.

[potent vector]

I don't see it. I play a game rn that has this embodiment of philosophy as the current Antagonist and it's definitely leaning Order.

[jolly crypt]

(For war and peace)

[potent vector]

"Change" is a more fitting name, but Entropy I mean as the concept

[hot reef]

Entropy (as in the physics concept) doesn’t really connect to traditional high fantasy that well, there isn’t anything that represents an inevitable stillness or lessening of usable energy
Unless usable magic is in decline, similar to LotR

[halcyon bison]

Yeah like when you cast fireball you create a lot of heat from apparently nothing
Unless the weave is somehow being consumed by the spell?

[potent vector]

If you want inspiration for cognitive gods, I recommend looking into Shards from Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere.

[jolly crypt]

Everywhere I go I see his face. (I'm currently staring at my desk-tower of Mistborn, Elantris, and the Midnight Painter)

[rugged hawk]

Think of it in terms of Light and Dark. A galaxy perfectly at eternal peace, perfectly at eternal harmony, perfectly in the light, is a dead galaxy. Existence itself loses meaning, and life loses the necessary chaos it requires simply to live. It's a complete breakdown of the order on which existing life depends. Entropy.

[jolly crypt]

I can drop my Magic system into #dm-world-building there is some sense of conservation of energy

[formal pier]

I need help

[glass granite]

Shoot

[halcyon bison]

Sure I'd like to hear it

[formal pier]

I want to make a contract that just gives me the signers soul

[potent vector]

I devoured his work when my friend convinced me to finally sit at the table lol. Finished all of it within a year.

[glass granite]

Alright…why and how?

[formal pier]

People in my party are trying to kill me I have a rough draft for it I just need someone to revise it and fix it

[halcyon bison]

Why would having a contract that gives you someone's soul help with that?

[glass granite]

-# heh
Why is your party trying to kill you?!

[potent vector]

Vro, party members rly should not be doing that unless you agreed to it/suggested it

[rugged hawk]

If your party's not trying to kill you at some point in the campaign, you're doing something wrong

[formal pier]

Last time I created a hole new quest and made it to where we did it for like 5 seson

[glass granite]

Maybe, but to the point you need a contract for their soul?

[formal pier]

Also a funny thing I opened a door then slammed it and walked in giving them my cover

[karmic pendant]

This just sounds like a chaotic evil mindset

[formal pier]

Also cinda want to become alastor

[glass granite]

Run this by your DM, not us

[formal pier]

I did he's ok with it

[glass granite]

Then what are we gonna do?

[formal pier]

I just need help revising it

[glass granite]

Also whose soul are you trying to steal?

[formal pier]

Well one of my party members but I also got a time bomb

If he hits me in anyway he dies instantly

[halcyon bison]

Why would the party member sign this contract

[formal pier]

Don't worry about it

[halcyon bison]

I'm very worried about it

[formal pier]

I have my ways

[karmic pendant]

Your best bet is either enchantment magic or getting lucky with deception checks

[halcyon bison]

Also if you're not a devil or fey or something of the sort you may not be able to enforce your contract in soul court

[formal pier]

No it's just to get him out of a nother contract but it don't work so now he's my time bomb

[full wadi]

Can we get an "ask your DM" emote at this rate, cause it feels like "why are you here first, ask your actual table members" is an hourly occurrence lol

[karmic pendant]

And if the party doesn't trust you. You have to get lucky twice

[glass granite]

The DM agreed

The table? Doubt it

[full wadi]

Did you talk to the affected table members - OK you didn't

[formal pier]

I'm giving a dude something to sign it

A scroll of fire ball

[jovial shadow]

Soul court?

[wanton sorrel]

?

[glass granite]

Why would someone who wants to kill you sign a contract with you?

[formal pier]

Don't worry if they sight they get fireball scroll

[karmic pendant]

That probably isn't enough

[wanton sorrel]

I'm totaly lost

[formal pier]

They agreed

[full wadi]

I'm getting more and more dubious about this concept as a whole not collapsing the table into a dissatisfied mess that just, leaves a few sessions after this

[olive wasp]

Sometimes you gotta do business with annoying partners

[karmic pendant]

Do they have wisdom as their dump atat

[formal pier]

Yea it's just they owed me

[glass granite]

They owe you…their soul?

[halcyon bison]

I might be able to speak only for myself but I wouldn't sell my soul for a fireball scroll

[formal pier]

Yes

[glass granite]

I am too, but alas the DM agreed and it’s not our table

[formal pier]

Wana see what I got as of right now

[full wadi]

Guess I'll wait for it to show up on /r/dndhorrorstories, if worst truly comes to worst lmao

[rugged hawk]

Just enjoy the popcorn and watch the disaster, because this is clearly a self-inflicted train wreck in progress.

[naive cedar]

whats going on

[formal pier]

The forever life contract

If anyone who were to sign this contract will give over the soul to the hands of those whom own it giving them pure access to anything that that player can do that includes money, and the ability to control what moves they can do like if they want to fight it has to go through me takimi. This could also help if you are stuck in a contract that you do not want to be in anymore so by signing this contract i must try to get and fix the other contract that you do not want to be in this can include soul bound and regular contracts
advantages
I get to see and help over the signed player. If they do good i can give them the ability to work on their own but if i want to control them i will just have to flip a switch in my mind that activates full control.
They also gain me as a person who will help if necessary to protect the player who sights it and the only way to break it is by dying
Once signed I will give the following players one session to atone to the new way of there player then i get to do whatever i want with them
And if i tell them to do something they have to do it
The one and only way to remove this is by paying the owner the some of 100000gp

_______________________________________ -________________________________________________________________________________________________________fj
(owner) (signer)

Thats what I got

[rugged hawk]

Entertainment. Pull up a chair and enjoy the show.

[naive cedar]

aight ill get the parmasan

[karmic pendant]

A dude is probably not gonna see the end of a campaign

[formal pier]

I have a staff that kills everyone within a 20 mile radius

[karmic pendant]

Is that a homebrew item?

[formal pier]

Besides me

[full wadi]

Nice, very nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's staff.

[formal pier]

Cinda

It's called the staff of power just a little bit better

[potent vector]

"A little bit"

[proven mountain]

Why would anyone sign a contract like that?

[formal pier]

Cus they lokie stupid

[full wadi]

Under distress (which makes the contract invalid in most courts)

[glass granite]

Isn’t the term duress

[full wadi]

Same defference

[formal pier]

Not at our table

[karmic pendant]

And for a scroll of fireball at least let them become a warlock instead

[proven mountain]

Tbh though, if the DM is handing out items like that weapon, I doubt it matters

[full wadi]

(you are correct yeah, my b lol)

[formal pier]

Also.if your outside that 20 mile radius u role a d 6 and what ever u get multiple that damage by 16

[karmic pendant]

Wot

[formal pier]

It's a lil strong

[karmic pendant]

What level is your party

[formal pier]

3

[glass granite]

Hm.

[full wadi]

This is calivinball levels of "literally what the heck is going on"

[halcyon bison]

Also I think if the contractee has already given away their soul in a different contract, they probably can’t sign yours without violating the existing one
Even if they can, your contract is still almost definitely unenforceable. They can’t get out of a different contract just because they signed yours

[karmic pendant]

Why are you getting a magic item like that at level 3

[formal pier]

Dw

[proven mountain]

Guessing it's a new DM

[glass granite]

Truly begs the question of why you don’t just use the item

[formal pier]

Oh I will I'm just waiting to get close.to someone

[rugged hawk]

The better question is why you're all still entertaining this.

[karmic pendant]

It's a lot of overthinking if you just want to kill the party

[jovial shadow]

These are the kinds of things that makes me wary of any Homebrewed campaigns, and why I'd rather do premade adventures

[glass granite]

Good effing question

[naive cedar]

I thought i was the oly person who avoids homebrewed stuff lol

[formal pier]

The campaign isn't homebrew

The stuff in it is to make it a little bit easier

[grand onyx]

Hiiiiiii :)

[karmic pendant]

What campaign is it then

[glass granite]

Gooood morning afternoon evening!

[rugged hawk]

I only avoid things that aren't in the DNDB Marketplace.

[formal pier]

I don't remember all I know is I'm in fadalen

[grand onyx]

Good morning afternoon evening to you too! How are you doing?

[formal pier]

Also we beat this dude called glass staff

[dull wagon]

Even though I'm new to GMing DnD I'm planning on letting my characters do something that might backfire, but I'm ok with the risk. I'm going to let them take 2 subclasses for their class(s)

[glass granite]

Well I just woke up an hour ago, but I’m alive so far. The weather outside is concerning though.

[grand onyx]

Oh boi

Yeah it’s been snowing here for a few days now

[jovial shadow]

Hm. Go on...

[glass granite]

It’s 45C over here (113F)

[grand onyx]

OH

I thought you meant snow 😭😭😭

[dull wagon]

Well lets say their a Bard, at level 3 they could become a Bard of Eloquence and Glamour. A ROgue could be a Mastermind and Scout

[grand onyx]

Yeah that does not sound fun

[karmic pendant]

That sounds horrible

[rugged hawk]

I'm well aware that 'partnered' and 'third-party' Marketplace content is generally treated as 'basically homebrew but monetized', but I'm of the opinion that if it's on the Marketplace, it's fair game.

[glass granite]

Been thinking of experimenting with that

[glass granite]

The state is going up in flames

[light dock]

does anyone have any good random house symbol ideas?

[karmic pendant]

How would that work for warlocks and sorcerers though

[mortal tinsel]

so Rogues no longer get a second attack in 2024?

[glass granite]

Never did, if you’re talking about extra attack

[bronze wave]

Did they ever?

[mortal tinsel]

I thought they could make 2 attacks with their action (at higher level)

[dull wagon]

Warlocks are sorta easy. Thematically a warlock might have found two different types of entities working together and together they back the warlock

[glass granite]

Nope

[bronze wave]

Seems interesting flavor

[glass granite]

They didn’t get extra attack in 5e. Can’t speak for older editions

[karmic pendant]

I don't think rogues need an extra attack anyway

[glass granite]

Sneak attack only procs once a turn anyway

[rugged hawk]

The closest thing to actual homebrew in my games is a Patron, but it's one that's a fusion of two canon Patrons that cover similar concepts. I took some things from one, and some from the other, and used those elements to make something that stayed true to both concepts while not being objectively superior to either one.

[wanton sorrel]

impressive

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, I mixed the Undying and Undead patrons, which have similar powers and abilities, but neither was truly fitting what I had in mind on its own. So I mixed them together, getting rid of some things from both to make a merged Patron.

[dull wagon]

the roleplay potential form a paladin, Oath of Conquest and Vengeance so they have to live up to both

[jovial shadow]

Nope they aren't true Martials. Although their single damage from other abilities can potentially do the same amount of damage as two attacks from another class.

[worn lagoon]

man i really wish i could rock a bladesinger sorcadin without every level until 12 being painful due to awkward level spready

[rocky glacier]

carceri is lowk such a tuff aura plane icl

[rugged hawk]

Like in Undying, you could become a spirit, which I didn't want, and Undead has a physical transformation. So I got rid of the L14 spirit projection for the Form of Dread.

And Undying gave me Spare the Dying, which directly opposed my Dark Bargain: Hand of Death, so I replaced that portion of Undying with Grave Touched from Undead.

I'm also debating on making the Hand of Death's Death Knell passive aura into a wider and wider area as level increases, to truly embody the curse of what it means to be a 'maw of death' at everyone else's expense.

The Death Knell feature makes anyone within 10 ft of you auto-fail Death saves. If this aura increased per level, it becomes a curse just to exist anywhere near people.

[ornate hearth]

yo guys whats a good premade dnd campaign?

[rugged hawk]

Princes of the Apocalypse

[loud tendon]

Might be thinking of the way light weapons worked.. if you use the attack option with one light weapon, you can make another attack with a different light weapon as a bonus action

[reef tundra]

Good to hear, I was considering getting it

[ornate hearth]

for beginners

[rugged hawk]

I've got it combined with Ghosts of Saltmarsh and One-Shot Coastal Adventures for my solo water-based Divine Sorceress.

[jovial shadow]

I'm not sure about the ones from 5e, but the ones from Basic and AD&D were golden. Your DM would just need to do some minor conversions since the monsters and spells are basically the same

[mortal tinsel]

That's probably it... and that's replaced now with nick weapon property and masteries

[loud tendon]

Still in 2024 under weapon properties https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#Properties

[potent vector]

Nah, Nick just buffs it to not take up your BA

Basically a free attack

[undone rain]

Ifff i was to make a monk. What stats should i put my highest number on

[keen kestrel]

dex > wis > con

[undone rain]

Thank youuu

[keen kestrel]

You can flip con and wis if you want, but I usually just take the tough origin feat to make up for it if I'm doing con as a tertiary stat

[long halo]

What about a warlock

[keen kestrel]

cha > con > dex usually

[potent vector]

Charisma all the way. Dex maybe for a lil AC after. Con for better concentration saves

[long halo]

Why is charisma good?

[potent vector]

(even Con is up for debate depending on Invocations)

[potent vector]

It's their casting stat, and Invocations/subclasses usually revolve around for the buffs they provide if they scale.

[long halo]

Ahhhh okay thanks

[keen kestrel]

con saves are incredibly important, and you don't get proficiency in them as a warlock

[long halo]

Con saves?

[keen kestrel]

constitution saves

[long halo]

What's that

[keen kestrel]

So typically you make saves when certain spells or effects hit you

Constitution saves also happen when you concentrate on a spell, and you get hit, prompting a saving throw

[long halo]

Ohhhhh okay that's really cool

[keen kestrel]

this is why warcaster is a really important feat for spellcasters generally

[burnt valley]

Eldritch Mind does a similar effect

[keen kestrel]

true, I'd still favor con over dex though since one AC isn't gonna do a whole lot

and warlocks get so many good invocations already

[burnt valley]

You may want to prioritse Agonizing Blast and Repelling Blast as your first two invocations

[keen kestrel]

I usually do (repelling blast less so if I'm looking to make a particular build)

[long halo]

Just to make sure I'm understanding this invocations are some kind of spells right? Like

[keen kestrel]

it's an extra thing warlocks get at certain levels

they're like additional effects for free

[long halo]

Hmmmmm okay thanks allot guys I'ma go sleep now it's pretty late for me gn chat

[burnt valley]

I suggest Form of Dread blogs for general Warlock advice

It may be abit dated cuz its for 2014 rules but some of it should still apply

[wary acorn]

Anyone hosting a 1 shot?

I wanna test a false hydra build

[idle oar]

Check #looking-for-players

Also note that it's off-topic to solicit/organize games outside of the Looking For Game channels. Please reveiw #find-a-game to learn how to use those LFG channels.

[potent vector]

More like mini feats

[versed pollen]

Anyone interested in helping a Cleric in #optimization?

[versed pollen]

That's a player character build?

[rugged hawk]

Ghaunadaur or bust!

[wary acorn]

Yeah look

O can't add photos

[rugged hawk]

Praise the ooze, praise the ooze, praise the OOOZE!

[wanton sorrel]

No don't praise the ooze... they destroy my weapons

[empty thicket]

and there is one that literally give you feats

[wary acorn]

If photos were allowed I would show the build

[rugged hawk]

Forsake weapons, return to unarmed

[wanton sorrel]

have mercy upon us all.

[rugged hawk]

There is no mercy.

[wanton sorrel]

I should of known there was only death.

[rugged hawk]

Ackshually, there is only primordial ooze

Now join the cult and summon Ghaunadaur into the world! Let all be reduced back to the primordial soup from which it came!

[wary acorn]

This is the gist of it I'd kill then suggest to bystanders that Noone was there then. Command him to tell everyone that the guy went out of town

[rugged hawk]

Seriously, just think of the benefits. If the world's reduced back to quasi-sentient slime, that means no more evil mages, no more vile politicians, no more backstabbing thieves guilds, no more crime rings, no more Bhaalspawn!

[wanton sorrel]

your words are truth... but that means sacrafising other living life forms. (scions path)

[rugged hawk]

That's okay, those life forms were being sacrificed by all those evil entities anyway. We're saving them from future suffering.

Besides, if they weren't strong enough to survive walking through the Gelatinous Ooze, they were too weak to be useful or protect anything, anyway.

[wanton sorrel]

think of the children losses...

[rugged hawk]

I am thinking of the children. They'll dissolve instantly and be free from a world full of EVIL

[wanton sorrel]

I feel like you played final fantasy 14 before...

[rugged hawk]

I may or may not have. 👀 (My FFXIV char: https://desert-flame.carrd.co/)

[wanton sorrel]

ah, makes sense...

anyway... I wonder if a DM could ever pull off such good villian story

[rugged hawk]

Anyway, as someone who has repeatedly survived the Walk of Gelatinous Cube, can recommend.

Just don't fail your paralyze save

[wanton sorrel]

x'D

[rugged hawk]

And yes, I've seen cultists accidentally get absorbed, such as when tripping and getting a limb stuck in the cube unintentionally.

[wanton sorrel]

i see.

[rugged hawk]

Yeaaaah, a lot of my chars were at least part-time ooze cultists....

[vivid owl]

Is doctor strange's cloak just cape of billowing but if it had a soul

[wanton sorrel]

not sure

[rugged hawk]

It's just his phylactery

[vivid owl]

Doctor strange secretly a lich, breaking news!

[rugged hawk]

I'm actually considering making my warlock's Pact item part of her Dark Bargain: Hand of Death.

So like sort of similar to a phylactery, but if she loses it or it's destroyed, she loses the lives she took with it to pay for her Cling to Life ability.

[vivid owl]

The nefarious hag after teleporting it to the other side of the world:

[rugged hawk]

DB Hand of Death gives Cling to Life, which lets you come back when you die - but you can't do it again until a Humanoid dies within 30 ft of you. My idea is to make it possible to pre-pay those lives with intentional sacrifices, but you have to do it with the Pact Item, and those lives are lost if you lose the Pact Item.

You can of course just make or request a new Pact Item, but you won't get those lives back to pay with.

So this keeps the balance of collecting souls from being too overpowered. If the DM needs you to be vulnerable, they can have something happen to your Pact Item. Otherwise, you can just use a charge each time you hit 0 HP or die.

[burnt valley]

Are you able to kill Commoners for extra lives

[rugged hawk]

I'm thinking to make it so that any lives you're storing for Cling to Life future uses must be sacrificed intentionally for that purpose. Meaning you can't just stand outside an evil temple and collect their sacrifices, or at a public gallows.

This forces the player to take an active role in taking lives, and forces them to draw unwanted attention from law enforcement and divinity, if they want to have extra charges to return from death. Also a corrupting factor, because taking lives for your own use is inherently evil.

[rugged hawk]

Technically yes, but attacking Commoners is the quickest way to become the new BBEG.

[burnt valley]

I see

[rugged hawk]

And that was my final thought on it: if someone gives in to such corruptive power too much and forsakes all the rules just to stay immortal, they might end up becoming the next campaign's BBEG.

Or at least a major antagonist, depending. Because they've obviously gone off the deep end and need to be stopped, which makes a whole new adventure for another (or the same) party.

[solar crow]

No progress yet with the situation with my dm and I outside of the campaign and the earliest I might see her is the day before our next session so this'll be interesting this week-

[obtuse phoenix]

Can someone give me some great 5th level and under wizard spells to use

[wanton sorrel]

?

[rugged hawk]

Galder's Tower

[burnt valley]

Wall of Force, Pyrotechnics, Fog Cloud, Nystul's Magic Aura, Web, Sleet Storm, Hypnotic Pattern, Rope Trick, Magic Missile, Planar Binding, Summon Greater Demons, Shield, Absorb Elements, Find Familiar, Phantom Steed, Gift of Alacrity, Suggestion, Mind Whip, Danse Macabre

[worn lagoon]

Find familiar is always goated

Get a raven/snake buddy today!

[burnt valley]

Free 60ft fly speed mount

[woven flint]

Bigby's Hand

Conjure Minor Elementals is good too

[halcyon bison]

Bigby’s hand, steel wind strike (if bladesinger) telekinesis, and geas are all fun spells

[naive cedar]

fire ball

[woven flint]

Steel Wind Strike is good on any wizard tbh.
All you need is a dagger lol
Also, the teleport near something isn't required

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but again, Galder's Tower. Now you can summon a customized Wizard's Tower, fully furnished, at any time!

[woven flint]

It's an Attack Roll AOE and you can crit with it

[halcyon bison]

Teleporting is required in 2024

[burnt valley]

Danse Macabre, arm your skeletons with Wands of Magic Missile for auto hit 1d4+1+Your INT modifier

[rugged hawk]

Shield spell crying in being nerfed into Oblivion by not having a duration anymore.

[woven flint]

Hmmm, that's strange.
That's kinda dumb lol

[rugged hawk]

No no, 'dumb' was hard nerfing the crap out of Shield spell

[burnt valley]

Animate Dead for shit tons of skeletons

[halcyon bison]

I’ve just learned that the corpses for danse macabre need not be humanoid

[rugged hawk]

I have a dream. A dream, that one day, we might get back our 1 minute / level Shield duration....

[burnt valley]

Use chicken bones lmaoo, utilize your local KF-I mean tavern for chicken bones

[halcyon bison]

Ten million skeletons upon ye

I want to play a necromancer but dnd doesn’t like necromancers

[rugged hawk]

I bet even if they give us back a proper Shield spell, though, that they're gonna make it a Concentration spell

[burnt valley]

Wdym, it still lasts for an entire round

[rugged hawk]

It used to last for ten rounds PER level!

[burnt valley]

Tasha summons are truly cring

[halcyon bison]

They’re just kinda boring
That being said the undead one specifically does have some good synergy with necromancers due to the paralysis thing

[valid geyser]

mage armor

[burnt valley]

It needs to be poisoned though, you should just upcast Animate Dead instead

[rugged hawk]

Okay, and? We already had Mage Armor and Shield combo. Now we just have Mage Armor.

[halcyon bison]

It’s not a bad thing to concentrate on if you can’t cast danse macabre, have your animated minions benefit from free crits

[burnt valley]

Dump Mage Armour for armour dipping with Artificer 1 or Cleric 1

[halcyon bison]

It poisons them itself

[rugged hawk]

Ew, class dips

I'm all for multiclassing returning the XP penalties

[burnt valley]

Wut why

[hoary totem]

H*xblade

[worn lagoon]

I see absolutely nothing bad about hexadins

[crimson gulch]

You can still go play older editions, no-one can take that from you

[rugged hawk]

Because I don't support dipping just for a feature.

[formal dove]

can i use chess pieces as minis

[burnt valley]

Nah it doesn't proc poison by itself plus its con saves

[rugged hawk]

Okay, see, I hear what you're saying. Counterpoint, WotC doesn't have my 3.5e books on DNDB

[idle oar]

Yes. Or coins. Or paper. Or no minis at all.

[burnt valley]

3.5e is superior because it still has the broken combos

[halcyon bison]

“Festering Aura (Putrid Only). Constitution Saving Throw: DC equals your spell save DC, any creature (other than you) that starts its turn within a 5-foot Emanation originating from the spirit. Failure: The creature has the Poisoned condition until the start of its next turn.”

[worn lagoon]

90% of the multiclasses people make end up as self nerfs ill take any good dips atp

[crimson gulch]

You don't need dnd beyond to play dnd

[rugged hawk]

Heresy! ||/s||

[burnt valley]

Oh right mb, its more than likely they succeed though

[burnt valley]

True true

Living force dividers thinking barbarian/monk multiclass is good

[rugged hawk]

....Monk/Druid/Din?

[worn lagoon]

Druidzardbarian

[halcyon bison]

Yeah but it happens every turn for free
Plus you can still cast poisoning spells of your own

[final merlin]

What

How does that word

[rugged hawk]

Ugh, reminding me of the most micromanagementy char I ever built. Was a 17 Cleric, 13 Wizard, 10 Palemaster. Had over 109 combined spell slots that needed preparation every damn rest.

[final merlin]

That's mad

[burnt valley]

Wtf what edition?

[rugged hawk]

Neverwinter Nights.

[halcyon bison]

There’s no save on the paralysis so with Ray of sickness you can paralyze someone with two successful attack rolls

[fresh pawn]

Question how many insects are in a swarm

[halcyon bison]

Exactly 3,246

[burnt valley]

Its one of the most commonly immune to conditions, there are better 1st level spells to use and generally you should conserve them for Shield and Absorb Elements instead

[fresh pawn]

Thx

[worn lagoon]

Doesn't

[halcyon bison]

But more seriously there’s not a define number, it’s kinda just “a lot”

[burnt valley]

Damn thats pretty old

[hushed mason]

Ooo! I played NWN. 🙂

[fresh pawn]

Bro we having a campaign next weekend and 2 people still haven't picked their race

[halcyon bison]

Yeah but they’re not as cool

[odd tinsel]

hello im a player but im am just started my own campaign and im practicing being a dm

[hushed mason]

Hello im a player!

[fresh pawn]

@odd tinsel good luck

[novel bobcat]

gdi I don't even know if dnd is worth playing anymore. I just found out from my DM that everyone in the session hates my guts and screw me if i know the reason for each one of them so I told them i'd leave to avoid drama, they said I didn't have to but I did anyways

my DM had nothing aginst me

but everyone else did apprently

[glass granite]

Do you know why they hated your guts?

[idle oar]

Sorry to hear that - also annoying that folks couldn't have an above table discussion about what's working and what's not and be mature and polite about it.

[odd tinsel]

thx

[novel bobcat]

I just said idk, the only things I can think of are from how my character behaved in the campaign but that would imply they can't seperate their personal feelings from their characters which is bad for RP to begin with

[fresh pawn]

Did your character do kill the plot or anything

[novel bobcat]

nope, in fact she was a carry through many bosses

[fresh pawn]

Or made anyone mad

[novel bobcat]

She could be rude as hell, impulsive and sometimes emotional but that was just her character. idk why or how they would interpet the actions of my character as anything personal from me

[fresh pawn]

Yeah people get a characters personality and real personality mixed up

[novel bobcat]

I always make it a point to sperate myself from myt characters

[fresh pawn]

Then idk

[umbral girder]

There is no amount specific in DnD for a swarm. Just a lot pretty much

[novel bobcat]

some of my personalty may funnel into them but how they act or speak does not refflect my thoughts of opinions in the slighest. Sure i'll take some meta knowledge and use it to influnce her decisons and actions but I never let the actions of those in the campaign affect my thoughts of the people playing them

[fresh pawn]

Thx I'll look it up

[hushed mason]

I'm sorry to hear you've had such a negative experience. :/

[novel bobcat]

I already had a bad experince with my first ever campaign and the DM going balistic on me, now with this one, the DM liked me and everyone else hated me. At this point idk if its worth even trying a new campaign or DM, i really liked the last one, i liked his DM style.

[modern trout]

Nice pfp

[hushed mason]

The rest of the party killed my first-ever character when I was introduced. I still don't know if it was because I was annoying or because I'm female. Or both.

[hushed mason]

Do you play in person or online?

[novel bobcat]

Online

[hushed mason]

It's challenging to find a good, healthy group online. I started a game last March, and we've been through about a dozen people, mostly due to scheduling conflicts, but some due to not-good-personality fits.

People will act like monsters online when they never would behave that way face-to-face.

[novel bobcat]

I won't surgarcoat it, I can be hard to get along with personally, I have issues with what I say being completely different from what i actully mean, this ticks people off, offends them, and i'm sitting her acting like nothing is wrong because i litteraly have no idea i just insulted them

and this makes things worse

[hushed mason]

Yeah, I can see how that would be difficult to work with.

[silk crest]

@sick summit

[sick summit]

I'm here

[silk crest]

Another halfling straight scammed businessmen to build his wealth and when he eventually used his money for a legitimate business, the people he scammed overthrew him and imprisoned him

this campaigns characters are truly fascinating for a first time and im highkey excited to see what i can do with their backstories for this world

[sick summit]

Of course, why am I even surprised?

[silk crest]

because the first adventure takes place on an island, pretty much anything can go for their backstories and then 90% of the things they write could totally make an appearance when they come back to the mainland

(assuming its high effort lol)

[sick summit]

Make the BBEG cuthulu and his right henchmen the same businessmen who overthrew the other halfling

[crimson gulch]

putting in effort into playing nice and getting along with folks at the table is essential

[silk crest]

honestly thatd be absolutely poetic

because i dont have anythign planed for when they come back to the mainland, thats peak comedy

i WILL be considering this if you dont mid

[sick summit]

Make their final ally the flying speghetti monster

And a sentient piece of bread

[silk crest]

Now, where does Jhon Taxes, the god of Taxation fit into all this?

[sick summit]

Wha- who?

[silk crest]

cause thats a homebrew monster i found when goofing off on dnd beyond and i genuinely found it so hilarious that i WANT thre to be a point in time where our party has to face that individual

[sick summit]

Make it so in a twist of faith, when they defeat cuthulu, they find his unpaid taxes and Jhon Taxes appears so they all need to unite to save the world from the worst enemy of mankind

[silk crest]

there is only two things certain

death and taxes

[sick summit]

Taxes

That could be a good enough finale, right?

[jovial shadow]

I have come across this in PVP's. Really rubbed me the wrong way, even though they explained it the same way.

[silk crest]

theres a photo of blackbeard writing in candlelight

that is how i feel while reading this beauty

[sick summit]

Thanks

[silk crest]

but how would the paladin still be a paladin if he kills cthulu…

[jovial shadow]

Paladins are allowed to kill

[limber trail]

Would killing Cthulu do anything to disrupt his paladin oath?