dnd-discussion

[worn lagoon]

You don't know the circumstances. I'm in the bargaining phase for a reason.

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-rules

[worn lagoon]

Yeah

[severe rampart]

So you see.. we're a party of 6 level 8... and we can get beaten by 4 optimized level 5 warlocks

[worn lagoon]

I've had a single lv3 wizard beat your entire party in a dpr race

[severe rampart]

Did you actually simulate that

who dealt the least damage (Don't let it be me)

[worn lagoon]

well the barbarian cuts his damage in half for flavor

[prime basin]

Well you guys microwaved while the warlocks are open grilling so you deserve to lose

[severe rampart]

The campaign ISN'T that serious, we just have to kill Demon Lord Baphomet okay?

[worn lagoon]

i don't even remember you attacking if i'm being honest. you turned the best damage dealer into a gorilla.

[fair summit]

As in fighting Warlocks made with Player Character rules instead of monster stat blocks?

[severe rampart]

LMAOO, listen, he wanted to be Goku

[prime basin]

So your throwing on purpose because you think baphomet is hot?

[fossil hollow]

PvP isnt balanced :P Its a matter of who goes first and who is more optimized

[severe rampart]

Evren, know what's worse? the next spells I'll be getting are Banishment and Scrying

[prime basin]

also who gets luckier dice rolls

[worn lagoon]

oh gods no. it was a pretty simple monster stat block, they just did less than 30 damage a turn combined.

[severe rampart]

I don't think he is, I know he is, but no, I am killing him.

[severe rampart]

... combined or average?

[worn lagoon]

combined

[severe rampart]

oh god

[prime basin]

@severe rampart "Jarvis pull up reciepts"

[severe rampart]

WELL, I tried to vicious mockery the kobold

[severe rampart]

That's a different Echo

[worn lagoon]

That's an echo... of an echo.

[severe rampart]

Yes, exactly

[worn lagoon]

Absolute fire writing

[severe rampart]

I don't think we can save our level 8 unoptimized party

[worn lagoon]

I've thought of some very overpowered infernal arms for your party that might bring your damage from inexistant to vaguely passable

[severe rampart]

We have a Hexblade Warlock Bard, a Dragonborn barbarian, a human fighter, a flavor intense lore bard, a leonin paladin, and Karagon.

[worn lagoon]

But like, if anyone else in chat has any ideas, I'm all ears

[severe rampart]

give me a scroll that'll let me repick my cantrips and spells

[worn lagoon]

"As thou desire."

[prime basin]

If there is a time god in your world, make a quest in which the party goes into the future to retrieve an m249 machine gun

[severe rampart]

I'm gonna beg the innkeeper for a glass ball so I can use Scrying and locate my father (and then kill him)

[worn lagoon]

I don't think your 2d6 is killing anyone bruh 😭

[severe rampart]

the highest damage I can do is Upcasted Thunderwave which is... a 5d8

[worn lagoon]

I will allow this.

[prime basin]

we're at level 8 and we're dealing 2d6 damage?

[severe rampart]

it's the vicious mockery damage

[worn lagoon]

Yeah. I mean, the barbarian willingly took unarmed fighting as a feat for flavor, and it's not been good for his damage.

[prime basin]

You'd do more damage by luring the enemy up a big tree and throwing them off

[severe rampart]

everything about my character is flavor

[worn lagoon]

That goes for all of you

[worn lagoon]

You only ever speak facts.

[severe rampart]

I... never thought about it like that

I do need the scroll that lets me repick cantrips and spells

[worn lagoon]

I'll just give you withers from baldur's gate 3 and call it a day

But, hm, I'll think of something, give me a bit

[severe rampart]

Evren, all of us are broke.

[prime basin]

get a 9-5 in the world and you'll start making consistent money

[severe rampart]

the quest to kill Baphomet IS the 9-5

[prime basin]

nah thats the college school learning part in which you eventually graduate, you need a 9-5 ontop of that

[worn lagoon]

Hand them a god who can cast true resurrection at 0.08% the market price and players will STILL find a way to complain. That's it, I'm putting you up against ORDINARY cambions, figure it out or face a tpk.

...Okay, I'll nerf the cambions a little but THIS will be the last time

[prime basin]

Don't even give them the respect of fighting cambions, make them face like 50 imps

[severe rampart]

how will we pay him, we are broke, even 0.08% of the market price is insane for us

[worn lagoon]

I don't know scrub some toilets damnit 😭

[worn lagoon]

Thanks for the idea. IMP SWARMMMM.

[severe rampart]

Spirit Guardians.

[worn lagoon]

Peak, actually. Please do that.

[median canyon]

Im hella new to dnd, how or where should i start?

[worn lagoon]

#dnd-newcomers

[median canyon]

thanks buddy

[worn lagoon]

they have all the advice you need, but make sure to read a lot

[median canyon]

👍

[regal gulch]

Hey, funny idea, what eldrich invocation would be good for a barbarian?

[worn lagoon]

green lord's gift?

[severe rampart]

oh my lord. I just checked, how the hell does Gan have 350 gold

[worn lagoon]

do you remember the blood pits?

[severe rampart]

35, 59, 350, 45, 0 are the gold amounts for each of us, not including Karagon

[severe rampart]

That darn thief

[prime basin]

Eldritch Mind

[worn lagoon]

Can you even get green lord's gift from eldritch master? I assume not.

[median canyon]

Is anyone willing to let me into a public campaign?

I'm trying to learn and i think its best if i learn by playing

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[severe rampart]

Aspect of the Moon, imagine the barbarian having to read in order to get the benefits of a long rest

[worn lagoon]

Huh, why a concentration-protecting trait on the one class who can't concentrate while raging?

[regal gulch]

I was taking Eldritch Adept not eldrich master

[feral fulcrum]

Takes an optional Roll while finishing up a crafting project, and gets an optional nat 1, and takes it for the funny And now we're fighting a Gargantuan animated suit.

[prime basin]

So you can concentrate on raging better

[median canyon]

Yeah i've been there, most require submits and a queue or they dont even have links 🤷‍♀️

[worn lagoon]

same thing, i used the wrong word

[fossil hollow]

thats the place to go to join a game

[regal gulch]

omg, I can make the book his chefs book

To clairify, he isnt taking a level in warlock, hes taking the feat

[median canyon]

right

[severe rampart]

Yes, yes

[worn lagoon]

eldritch invocations are so cool, i wish pact magic didn't exist

[severe rampart]

I wanna try playing a hyper optimized character ONE TIME and just see how much damage I can do

[worn lagoon]

how about you make the optimized build first, THEN write the character?

Suit the rp to the gameplay rather than the other way around

[severe rampart]

LOOK I'm SORRY, I just love Changelings

[worn lagoon]

race is quite minimal it's fine to stick to a race while optimizing the class

[regal gulch]

I could take One with Shadows, imagine a barbarian disappearing because the lights dimmed

[fiery nimbus]

I summoned a Demon in the lawful good plane
DM describe it as "realm itself taking interest" and i am kind of afraid

[severe rampart]

Well that I cannot do

[prime basin]

I've thought about more cool ways to implement pact magic which is to just have a pool of points which can be determined by whatever WoTC would determine them. If you want to cast fireball that cost 3 points, if you want to cast a 4th level fireball thats 4, if you want to cast hex that is 1, yadayada. I just think it could be cooler to draw on your patrons favor/power towards you instead of it being like "you get 3 spell slots, use em wisely"

[valid geyser]

spell points is a rule that exists in the 2014 dmg

[worn lagoon]

I'd honestly let my warlock have double the spell slots if he asked

But he seems pretty intent on poking things with that goofy sword that does nothing, so he doesn't seem to care

[fiery nimbus]

just give them the Rod of the Pact Keeper, it does give them option to regain the slot

[prime basin]

I know, but they should be implemented in an actual way and not just thrown in as an optional rule

[severe rampart]

Who?

[prime basin]

The ones you are losing against

[worn lagoon]

gan

[worn lagoon]

no, this is his other party member who does no damage

[severe rampart]

Don't worry about it, he's half bard

[valid geyser]

i mean i think the issue sounds like them being unoptimized for weapon usage

[severe rampart]

We're about to get a paladin I'm SURE our damage is about to spike up

[prime basin]

is it a 2024 paladin?

[valid geyser]

an average warlock would be using like, eldritch blast with the proper invocations to get normal levels of slotless damage

[severe rampart]

Mixed and match features from 2024 and 2014, depends on what they like, that's how cool Evren is (but you do have to ask him first before getting the feature)

[prime basin]

How are the smites used?

[feral fulcrum]

They did Paladin's dirty by gutting their Nuclear Option.

[worn lagoon]

awww. free feat for you.

(flattery will get you everywhere)

[prime basin]

free feat pic

[mighty granite]

Can we post a dnd server we play onnhere?

[valid geyser]

and weapon warlcoks that are properly speced out are decent its just,
taking up most of your invocation slots to be on the same level as a warlock whos just using agonizing blast

its mostly just done for the cool factor

[feral fulcrum]

I don't think so.

[mighty granite]

Isthere a channe for it

[worn lagoon]

I'm planning to give that little guy something that might push stabbing a little above eb, hopefully

[severe rampart]

(I got nitro just to bonk you)

[worn lagoon]

What the hell, he ACTUALLY just got nitro

[fair summit]

Respect

[worn lagoon]

I make it TWO free feats

[severe rampart]

no guys, I'm broke, it's the 3-day nitro thing with the orbs lmao

[prime basin]

Cat bonk don't make sense, but dog bonk does..my UN is cheemstheskulltaker

[loud tendon]

if your community focuses mainly on D&D and otherwise follows the rules for our discord, you could possible advertise it in #looking-for-community

Directions on how those channels work are here: #find-a-game

[severe rampart]

I did miss Nitro, someone gifted me a 1 year thing for it a like two years ago and I've been suffering ever since. (Sorry, unrelated, next topic)

[feral fulcrum]

Huh, I'd figured it was flat out banned.

[severe rampart]

so how's everyone doing?

[feral fulcrum]

Tired, and fighting giant sentient clothing.

[worn lagoon]

I'm gonna go get something to drink and figure out that scroll you wanted.

It'll probably be a song book, and you can swap out spells by revising different tunes, ig.

[severe rampart]

Homebrew it, make me able to change all of the spells I've chosen, except for the "Magical Adept feat" spells

[worn lagoon]

Kind of like a wizard.

[mighty granite]

Thanks

[worn lagoon]

Actually, you know what, you are a wizardesque bard now. Enjoy.

[severe rampart]

I have 12 INT...

[worn lagoon]

Are you sure it's not 8

[severe rampart]

my dump stat is always strength

[worn lagoon]

right

[severe rampart]

listen Evren my luck with stat rolls HAVE NOT been good

[worn lagoon]

Yeah, I see absolutely nothing wrong with handing you a free core wizard mechanic.

[fiery nimbus]

I think i caused a TPK

[worn lagoon]

I am so happy to hear that

[severe rampart]

Best quote ever

[halcyon bison]

congradulaton

[fiery nimbus]

I summoned a Demon in a neutral good plane

[severe rampart]

Now why...

[fiery nimbus]

Our monk dangled 190ft in the sky and that was the only thing capable of catching them

[eager marsh]

the monk? the character with slow fall?

[wanton sorrel]

?

[fiery nimbus]

yes, terminal hight though

[worn lagoon]

you were a PLAYER?

[fiery nimbus]

obviously, why shouldn't i summon a demon as a player

[eager marsh]

there are spells to summon demons yes. Though usually those dont just turn into a tpk. did you lose control?>

[severe rampart]

no, he commanded the demon to kill his entire party

[worn lagoon]

You failed to convince the demon to help and then it turned on you somehow?

[eager marsh]

crazy

[fiery nimbus]

not yet, but its still a demon summoning in a neutral good plane while on a job from a celestial

it's most likely not TPK, but it will be... interesting

[eager marsh]

Being on a neutral good plane doesn't matter. you're not in lawful good/neutral land where they will enforce a law beyond reason

[halcyon bison]

I think it probably angered the celestials

That's my guess as to what's going on anyways

[eager marsh]

Celestials are not unreasonable creatures

[feral fulcrum]

Most things, even Typically Chill things, don't much care for you summoning barely controlled, psychotic Demons onto their planes in the best of times.

[fiery nimbus]

this one is an author of a book called "How to kill Demons" yes i asked

[severe rampart]

darn. I had forgotten about the snacks I saved for the DnD session.

and now my fries are all soggy

[eager marsh]

doesn't mean they'll just up and murder your whole party necessarily

[severe rampart]

and dry at the same time wth

I played DnD for 9 hours straight what the hell

[fiery nimbus]

most likely not, but i just made the campaign whole lot more interesting

[halcyon bison]

See? Celestials aren't always good guys. But the fey are. Make fey friends instead of celestial friends and you'll be better off :)

[eager marsh]

imagine trusting the fey

[prime basin]

Indeed, especially the unseelie fey

[fiery nimbus]

Trust but verify

[halcyon bison]

The fey are very trustworthy :)
They are friends :)))

[worn lagoon]

How many godsdamned campaigns are you in all at once, little guy?

[hushed mason]

not enough

[severe rampart]

Descent into Avernus, Dragons of Stormwreck Isle, Random oneshots, and that Dark Souls campaign

[wanton sorrel]

0_0 the dark souls campaign

[severe rampart]

DSI was 11-1 and then the Dark Souls was 1-6/7

[severe rampart]

the DM was... something else.

[wanton sorrel]

incredible

[severe rampart]

I actually haven't left the DS campaign yet

[severe rampart]

no, no, in a bad way Kosmus, in a bad way

[worn lagoon]

it's dmpc self insert super awesome dnd horror story #3432

[wanton sorrel]

how many have fallen Echo?

[severe rampart]

have you ever heard of a level 2 wizard casting a level 6 spell and dealing 150 damage to the enemies which disintegrated?

[limber trail]

...what

[eager marsh]

Yes. Just now.

[severe rampart]

and then he didn't face any repercussions because he rolled "two nat 20s" (Which we did not see)

[worn lagoon]

average dmpc horror story

[limber trail]

oh ok its a dmpc i see

[severe rampart]

honestly it was a matter of time before I had this horror story

[worn lagoon]

not even echo's first dmpc experience

[severe rampart]

I now have... two horror stories

[severe rampart]

well you're more like a DM controlling an NPC

[wanton sorrel]

what is your favorite horror story in your campaigns?

[worn lagoon]

Tell us the other one!

[severe rampart]

Ah it was this

The DM didn't prepare anything. Had around ~3 weeks of time, didn't set up a regular VTT, didn't read the character sheets, didn't even read the module, didn't give us a clear goal, didn't describe anything really, and improvised half of it on the spot

[worn lagoon]

Oh yeah that thing. With the grandma.

[wanton sorrel]

impressive

[severe rampart]

I've played in 5 session 1s and so far, only 3 of them have been good

one was Evren's, the other was a oneshot, and the last was the Dragons of Stormwreck Isle, which was Theatre of the Mind

[worn lagoon]

Mine was obviously the best because I am the best at everything, always.
On a serious note, can't wait for the next session. I got a lot prepared. (Lie. Finals.)

[wanton sorrel]

hp lovecraft?

[severe rampart]

thankfully my finals is over. However, if I get a very low grade (asian parents)

[severe rampart]

Fear and Hunger with Descent into Avernus

[wanton sorrel]

:3 now that's the good stuff for a D&D campaign

[worn lagoon]

fungermaxxing never fails

Not that we are running DiA, the only thing in common is the setting for now

[wanton sorrel]

ah, i see..

[fiery nimbus]

Fun fact @worn lagoon if you are unlucky enough or have a very low spell DC
you can summon the demon for each spell slot you have

[regal gulch]

Is the Prodigy feat worth it?

[eager marsh]

depends on you, the build, and what you get from it

[severe rampart]

So, leave the Dark Souls campaign, yay or nay?

[regal gulch]

I wanna be a giant barbarian chef, I am lvl 6, and I am a human. The feat would give me proficiency with one skill, one tool or one language, and I gain expertise with one skill.

[severe rampart]

sounds pretty bland on paper

[stoic raptor]

an original definition of a barbarian was, people who aren't greek

[severe rampart]

Yeah that applies to a lot of people nowadays

[eager marsh]

I know. I'll rephrase. What do you mean by 'worth it' in this scenario?

[regal gulch]

And yet he will be a Sicilian chef

[worn lagoon]

the greeks don't exactly make up a majority of the world

[eager marsh]

they meant 'not being greek'

which makes most people 'barbarians' by that definition

[severe rampart]

what do you think Evren? leave the DS campaign yay or nay

[feral fulcrum]

Experise and a tool option is pretty neato.

[regal gulch]

I'm not sure, I'm making this character since my dm did a tpk and we cant resurrect. So I wanna make a chef who will compete in literal food fights to do so. So... I'm not sure what feat I should take.

[feral fulcrum]

Chef Feat would also be fitting

[eager marsh]

There is an origin feat called Chef assuming 2024 rules

[regal gulch]

already got it

[worn lagoon]

It's time to stop playing.

[severe rampart]

Yeahh I kind of don't like being a pushover

[eager marsh]

Then you dont really need more than that to do teh cooking thing. Unless the DM has a set skill check associated with using Cook's Utensils (assuming you have proficiency) besides just the tool. Its a wisdom check according to the phb

[regal gulch]

If it helps I can tell yall what I rolled for stats

[severe rampart]

explore the other basis of the chef, Slicing and Dicing, then cooking, baking, etc.

[eager marsh]

that doesnt matter really. If you want the feat and think you'd benefit from teh proficiency and expertise (dont need to be the same skill) then take them

[severe rampart]

oh no... they're heading for the flavor optimized route

[regal gulch]

Originally I wanted eldrich invocations to just up and disappear if I am completely still.

[severe rampart]

they're so still, like drax from GoTG

[regal gulch]

also I have 3x 17s, 10, 9, and a 7 for my stats

[severe rampart]

but being still, for a barbarian, is pretty rare

don't get me wrong, it is still very useful

[regal gulch]

Woe be upon the guard who didn't shine a light at the barbarian with a comically sized frying pan.

Ok, I asked the dm and they said all cooking will be done with survival, so imma get Skill Expert. It gives me +1 in one ability, proficiency in one skill and expertise in one other in which I have proficiency.

[wanton sorrel]

0_0 my dice is coming on next wednessday 0_0

[stoic raptor]

🎲

[meager ravine]

I bet they’ll look great hope they give you good rolling luck

[stoic raptor]

in japanese, they keep the radical for bone, in one form of the word for dice 骰子【さい•ころ】saikoro. of course we remember that bones were originally cast for divination (see oracle bone divination), and our traditional dice, i think evolved from being certain bones that people would roll to use as dice. 骨 <- this is the bone letter (also kinda used as radical here) hone or kotsu

[wanton sorrel]

ty

[severe rampart]

You really like Etymology huh?

[stoic raptor]

Yeah, gives lots of context.

[woven flint]

Hello, dear friends 🧐

[wanton sorrel]

hey Tokii

[woven flint]

Bad to the bone riff

I'm thinking of
✨ Back-up Characters ✨
Right now

[wanton sorrel]

same here

[stoic raptor]

back up, like boney ones who rise from the dead...?

[woven flint]

Not because any of my characters have died
Mostly just because I wanna

[wanton sorrel]

T_T i maxed out my D&D beyond characters slots

so now i'm using paper sheets

[woven flint]

I honestly thing a Halfling Valor Bard would be really cool and cute, despite me not liking halflings lol

[wanton sorrel]

what about gnomes?

[woven flint]

Hmmm...
Gnome Clockwork Soul Sorcerer

[rugged hawk]

Gnomes don't have souls

[remote wadi]

Session is finished for the week

[woven flint]

Screw it
Imma come up with a Back-Up character for every class >:]]]

[remote wadi]

Paladin definitely ate up a lot of time with the resurrection debacle, but no severe damage (yet)

[woven flint]

Eladrin World Tree Barbarian is one I've been thinking of for awhile

[severe rampart]

Tokki! Bloodline! so good to see you!

[remote wadi]

For a quick rundown of today's session

[severe rampart]

wanna hear my DnD Horror story I just had?

[keen kestrel]

first session with my genie paladin, and it is incredibly fun I'm ngl

[prime basin]

genie?

[glass granite]

May I join in for story time?

[prime basin]

is it the one you told earlier?

[woven flint]

Noble Genies Paladin

[rugged hawk]

Scheduling Issues appears, instant TPK! The end?

[remote wadi]

I was indeed resurrected as a vampire spawn, from what it seems. The health regeneration is mostly what I presumed it was, but it also won't activate while incapacitated

[prime basin]

Ahh 2024 i assume?

[severe rampart]

DMPC MAIN CHARACTER!

[glass granite]

Makes sense

[woven flint]

Yes

[glass granite]

Ah, a classic

[woven flint]

Nuff said, leave the game lol

[keen kestrel]

yeh

[prime basin]

Sorry im used to 2014 rules and i forget that 2024 did in fact introduce new subclasses

[keen kestrel]

It is quite enjoyable

[severe rampart]

So, he's a level 2 2014 Wizard, we were about to die, and he quote "Casted a spell without a spell slot, causing the enemies to disintegrate into nothing" (The enemies had 150+ hp, 50hp, and 20+ hp respectively)

[glass granite]

Hm…
Before you leave the game, jump the wizard.

[wanton sorrel]

wut?

[prime basin]

Thats what we said earlier

[remote wadi]

Paladin took a good chunk of time holding up the party with a semi understandable reasoning for it

But it took up a lot of time, and the party/DM did defuse a lot of the situation. It still is a little funny for the Paladin to have the personal belief that all undead are evil when a Dhampir Druid is right there...

[woven flint]

Don't cause problems for no reason, just leave tbh

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah not need to turn yourself into 'That guy' before you ditch the group.

[glass granite]

To be perfectly honest, I’m hanging on to the hope that this is some convoluted story thing

[remote wadi]

Me or them?

[woven flint]

Any problems you do cause would probably be undone by the dm anyway lmao

[glass granite]

And interrogating the wizard seems like a good start

[severe rampart]

We're not done!

So, the boss is right next to him, fully amped, fully enraged because he just killed their lover, you wanna know what they do instead of klling their husband's murderer who is standing next to them? they dash and disengage away from him to attack a different party member.

[worn lagoon]

What is this, solo leveling?

[wanton sorrel]

isn't that an anime?

[remote wadi]

Anyways, we were then confronted by Izak and guards on our way out, which we dispatched quickly. I myself did considerably good first turn damage despite only being level 5 (29 piercing damage is pretty good fwiw)

[hidden spindle]

Anime. Manhwa.

[keen hemlock]

All 3 of my players want to be clerics i cannot belive this

This is my first time dming and they do this to me

[wanton sorrel]

they all wanted be clerics?

[prime basin]

Watch dungeon dudes cleric party video

[woven flint]

Politely as them to play different classes, perhaps?

[keen hemlock]

They are saying "what's wrong with it" and i have an entire CONTINENT that's dedicated to physical fighters 😭✌️

[woven flint]

If that's what you want

[keen hemlock]

If they do anything slightly stupid they are getting completely gapped

[keen hemlock]

They refuse.

[prime basin]

Could be a cool way to introduce divinity to these physical fighters

[wanton sorrel]

i wish i could join you but my tortle monk doesn't have a background story yet.

[fickle heart]

Probably should go in #tales-from-the-table, if you're actually recapping a session (at least if it's meant to be a fun recap.)

[keen hemlock]

Sorry no there 3 A MONK CONTINENT A BARBARIAN CONTENT AND A FIGHTER CONTINENT

[woven flint]

Tell them if they aren't willing to cooperate there's no game, you're the dm

[prime basin]

This is a problem. If the dm asks you to switch a class, you switch a class

[remote wadi]

Apparently, Paladin got the equivalent of 2 warnings from the deity or whatever it is: one from the physical fiasco against my character and the other for outright killing Izak on our way out when he was already unconscious

After that, we are about to go take on some quests next session. Level 6 is right around the corner which means Rogue levels and CBE for me

[woven flint]

It's not toxic or bad for a dm to want class variety in their games

[wanton sorrel]

maybe they wanted to multi class and forgot to tell the dungeon master.

[worn lagoon]

i had 3 bards

[keen hemlock]

"Let us suffer the consequences of our actions" okay

[worn lagoon]

welcome to the club.

[keen hemlock]

Direct quote from one of them

[wanton sorrel]

did they pick the same race too?

[earnest canyon]

Sounds like a disconnect between the game the DM wants and the players

[keen hemlock]

All human yea, but thats fine tbh cuz when I was a player we usually all went human

[worn lagoon]

if they all pick life domain, just throw them in a pit

[keen hemlock]

That's not the part Im mad about

I'm not mad cuz tbis is a strong combo im mad cuz its weak, one singular brawler class will TKO them 😭😭

[wanton sorrel]

humans in D&D are common... now i see why.

[earnest canyon]

Do you have to play with these players? just tell them to pick another class or table whichever one is best for them.

[keen hemlock]

Irl friends

[earnest canyon]

That makes them refusing worse.

[woven flint]

Honestly, As a player and as a (potential) dm, I don't enjoy class overlap because there very much runs the risk of stepping on other people's shoes and it offers less variety to problem solving

[prime basin]

You should try out a "test session" and see how it plays and then allow your players to change it up if they want

[glass granite]

Personally, I don’t mind it.

People shall play whatever they want

[earnest canyon]

I dont mind it and clerics are not weak IMO

[glass granite]

Plus the idea of monk bros running around…amuses me

[hidden spindle]

Class overlap? That's fine

[wanton sorrel]

maybe they wont run the same subclass at level 3

[hidden spindle]

Maybe they will run the same subclass

[wanton sorrel]

x'D

[earnest canyon]

That would be optimal

[severe rampart]

You heard it, go ahead, get the Tarrasque's statblock.

[woven flint]

Yeahhhh...
But my issue is that I just don't enjoy it

[glass granite]

That’s reasonable

[woven flint]

Hell, BE a Paladin, Cleric and Warlock

All three worshipping or serving different deities

Hell, slap Druid in there since it's a Divine caster

[keen hemlock]

Im just letting them

[wanton sorrel]

huh if they worship the same deities that would be weird.

[keen hemlock]

Im not arguing this, its to annoying

[severe rampart]

what would be the fully optimized spells for a level 2 drow paladin?

[woven flint]

I mean, if you, as the dm don't like something, you've got the power to change it, don't let people walk on you lol

[worn lagoon]

i hate class overlap because it's never a class you want multiple of, it's always "we don't have 20 damage between ourselves"

[hidden spindle]

Divine Smite

[severe rampart]

You know what, yeah 6 divine smites

[worn lagoon]

throw a bless on and divine smite away

[wanton sorrel]

well if there are clerics... well the healing would be a great stradegy

[keen hemlock]

One of them is trying to go on about some "there's physical clerics also" and im not in the mood ill let them do their

[severe rampart]

you know what yeah, I just put Cure Wounds, Divine Smite, and Bless

[earnest canyon]

Not a great start to the game though.

[keen hemlock]

If they die I dont wanna hear anything in my head about it being unfair

[wanton sorrel]

it could never happen clerics are good healers... i think....?

[worn lagoon]

you overestimate their power

[severe rampart]

I'm running a level 2 drow paladin with duelist fighting style, Rapier + Shield, is that any good?

[glass granite]

Absolutely

[worn lagoon]

it's not bad

[glass granite]

I believe that’s the standard for dexadins too

[worn lagoon]

i much prefer twohanders, but that's just a different build

[glass granite]

Mhm

[severe rampart]

I've never played Paladins before.. why the hell do I have 18 AC

[glass granite]

You’ll have more later

[worn lagoon]

you would have 18 ac as that naked bard if you put on mage armor

[glass granite]

Could have 20 just starting if you’re a warforged and took defence

[severe rampart]

... noted

[regal gulch]

is there something like the headband of intellect or belt of giants strength for Dexterity?

[worn lagoon]

gloves of dex or smth

[severe rampart]

I might've placed my stats wrong though, 10 strength, 16 dex, 15 con, 8 int, 10 wisdom and 15 charisma

[cerulean monolith]

What kind of abominable version of Curse of Strahd is this??

[remote wadi]

I... don't know what you're asking

[hidden spindle]

Looks like you're a dedicated Paladin

[worn lagoon]

looks good to me

[severe rampart]

I'm trying out all the classes, so far bard still on top
Bard
Warlock
Rogue
Ranger
Artificer

[worn lagoon]

just no twohanders for you

[severe rampart]

I have my shield and my rapier, that's enough

[worn lagoon]

nor multiclassing

[glass granite]

Grab a bow, just in case

[hidden spindle]

Or a gun

[keen hemlock]

This situation kinda killed my eagerness to write for this session

[glass granite]

Loading is gonna get a bit annoying eventually

[keen hemlock]

Actively refusing to switch is making it even more annoying

[severe rampart]

how the hell do I play a paladin, do I just... poke and then divine smite?

[hidden spindle]

It appears you must address it as well because you are a player. iirc, they did ask what the problem was.

[glass granite]

Bonk, but oathful

[severe rampart]

right... how powerful of an oath must the oath be...

[glass granite]

Hit stuff. If you crit or it seems fitting, bonk but divine

[glass granite]

It’s a bit nuanced. Why do you ask?

[feral fulcrum]

However you want to play one. Want to be the big beatstick? Smite Spam, Want to be a defensive healer/buffer? Focus on your spells and defense with a shield and the like.

[glass granite]

Ah, can’t forget lay on hands. If an ally is downed, rush over and heal

[severe rampart]

Darn, Paladins are (usually) good, can't worship Lolth

[glass granite]

I don’t see why not

[feral fulcrum]

You can be an evil Paladin with Oath of Conquest, Crown, or Glory.

[hidden spindle]

Anyone can worship whoever regardless of class

[chrome nexus]

yo.

[severe rampart]

I'm poor and can't do those oaths

[glass granite]

You can twist most oaths

[glass granite]

Heh. But you’re a paladin

[severe rampart]

I think the free subclass was Oath of Devotion

[hidden spindle]

Prepare for trouble, & make it double~

[glass granite]

Ahh

[severe rampart]

Can I be hopelessly devoted to you?

[wanton sorrel]

i knew this person likes pokemon

[glass granite]

To protect the world from devastation!

[wanton sorrel]

oh gosh heere we go

[hidden spindle]

To unite all peoples within our nation~

[glass granite]

To denounce the evils of truth and love

[naive cedar]

to extend our reach to the stars above!

[severe rampart]

oh god there's meowth

[glass granite]

Nugget!

[hidden spindle]

Shye!

[naive cedar]

im not a meowth. im a tressym. smh

[glass granite]

Anywho back to dnd before we’re smited

[hidden spindle]

Yeah. Most Oaths can be read in a different light

[feral fulcrum]

With the exception of the pacifism one.

[glass granite]

Redemption?

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah

[wanton sorrel]

you pokemon fans probably worship ash catchem for immortality on your D&D character sheet.

[glass granite]

Just read over the tenants, I think you could try and spin it evil

Hardest part is “Compassion”, but if you believe hard enough anything can happen

[wanton sorrel]

really!

[remote wadi]

Session ended. Combat was short, but felt good to have somewhat average damage this time

[limber trail]

good to hear!

[glass granite]

Might want to run it by the DM, but maybe.

[wanton sorrel]

I remember south park in the second game did this... it was funny.

[limber trail]

what matters really is just what you and your dm can justify. I've seen lawful good conquest paladins and lawful evil devotion paladins. If you have a good idea and you can juustify it and play it well then no issues with an evil devotion paladin.

An evil devotion paladin may be doing bad or evil things out of love or compassion for others. Their sphere of who their compassion extends to may just be reduced in some way.

[empty thicket]

today i had session too.
Mostly stealth episode, had to only kill one cook goblin because he tried to act like a hero, was a fast death at least.
Saved the guy that we wanted the arti and me and we found between the lots of items.
A deck of many things, i got Star and Sun, she got Moon and now she got 2 wishes.
I shared the XP of Sun with her so we are both lvl 7 now (We were 3 and jumped to 7) and the DM gave me a magic item, a cloak it seems.
I guess is an invisibility cloak but i cant guess at all, only test it or find some Identify

[severe rampart]

they could devote their life to Lolth (when they reach level 3)

[rugged hawk]

Still really not a fan of only getting a subclass at level 3

[severe rampart]

Come on guys, what's a good deity for a Drow Paladin, I don't read lore

[dusky briar]

Drow Paladin? Seldrarine or Lolth are the main ones

Seldrarine is the good-alligned drow pantheonm deity.

[hidden spindle]

You don't need to... but Bahamut

[empty thicket]

more if we considerate that some classes like Warlock get spells before the patron and others get the "subclass" at first like sorcerer

In martials is kinda understandable because they train and improve. But some others dont so much

[severe rampart]

Bahamut is cool, not sure how I can relate him to my backstory

[wanton sorrel]

can you have more than 1 faith?

[severe rampart]

I mean, I don't see why not

unless one's a fae and the other's a fiend

[wanton sorrel]

ok that makes sense

[remote wadi]

They basically got a figurative warning fron whatever deity they have for very un-paladin like behavior twice

[dusky briar]

Kiaransalee is the Dark Seldarine God for Vengence.

[remote wadi]

For mine, it was mostly preparing for the current session and the next

[empty thicket]

we still have the deck and hte temptation to take another card is there

[remote wadi]

But we did have a very close call with losing one of our horses

[keen hemlock]

"Yea we all went into a gc and decided to go triple cleric without telling you" I canceled on them im ngl

Im not dming that whole thing put a sour taste in my mouth

[prime basin]

Imagine being a drow who unironically worships any drow related goddess

[dusky briar]

"We shall outheal and outdamage everything "

[prime basin]

shoutout to the best god in the dead three pantheon, my boy bhaal

[oak grotto]

We talking about drow gods?

[dusky briar]

My drow character was turned into a tiefling by their warlock pact and is a valor bard for Zariel.

[oak grotto]

Strange. I can send messages here but not on the newest UA thread.

[fiery nimbus]

I convinced DM to give me some Devils true names

Infernal Calling will be so fun

[severe rampart]

I have a Drow Paladin and am in need of a deity

[blissful ibex]

if it's demons, wouldn't it be abyssal calling

[chrome nexus]

would you like rat taxi mage instead?

[severe rampart]

rat tabaxi?

[oak grotto]

The lesser evil drow gods are very underused.

[fiery nimbus]

Infernal Calling summons Devils
Summon Greater Demon summons Demons
For some reason there is no spell summoning Yuggoloths outside of Summon Fiend but that one is BOOOOORING

[rugged hawk]

If you're not worshipping The Tenth Lord of Nine, you're not a real cleric

[chrome nexus]

yes, a tabaxi :]

[severe rampart]

Maybe I'll worship Eilistraee...

[prime basin]

Taxi's indeed are filled with rats

[rugged hawk]

Ghaunadaur or bust

[dusky briar]

Eilistraee is fun

[blissful ibex]

use both and bring the bloodwar to a locale near you

[severe rampart]

Sorry I don't want to worship the oobleck god

[rugged hawk]

You misspelled Ghaunadaur We must sacrifice all our enemies to the OOZE

[prime basin]

the only gods worth worshipping are those of death and havoc

[fiery nimbus]

You can cast both at once, but you have to lose control over one of them
funny enough the lower your spell DC, the more Fiends you can summon

[oak grotto]

Who is that? Is that the name of cool new bard the kids are talking about?

[woven flint]

My Drow Celestial Warlocks patron is Eilistraee, but he doesn't actively like.. worship her lol

[blissful ibex]

that's why you cast one, and a friend casts the other

[severe rampart]

Blasphemy! this is why we only have three spell slots!

[woven flint]

He's not up to Worshipping Lolth, Her daughter or her Son lmao

[dusky briar]

character concept I made one time was a plasmoid that gained sentience because it was a slime they sacrificed stuff too named "Jubi Andoor". Something they remember that rhymed with the name people kepts on saying.

[fiery nimbus]

No, i mean you can have multiple active Demon Devils without concentrating on them

you can do that... you won't be controling them though

[rugged hawk]

The Tenth Lord of Nine, Gargauth. Used to rule all of the Nine Hells, but was SO EVIL that Asmodeus and the other Lords of the Hells all banded together to cast him out of the Nine Hells altogether. He became a god and Asmodeus took over the Nine Hells.

[blissful ibex]

I mean, I'm sure they'd be plenty happy to torment some summoned demons and vice versa

[woven flint]

It's funny how Vhaeraun is Lolths favorite child specifically because he seek to usurp her lmao

Chaotic Evil deities are strange

[dusky briar]

Lolth is all about chaos, makes sense to me

[oak grotto]

I don't recall ever reading that.

[rugged hawk]

Just as Drizzt is Lolth's favorite mortal, because his existence is pure chaos to the Drow

[fiery nimbus]

you summon a demon, you let it break free of your control (it needs to succeed a charisma saving throw against your spell DC) and than you summon a Devil to fight it

[woven flint]

"Oh, my sweet darling boy wants to overthrow his mother! While my drab daughter just wants our people to see the light.. what a bore..."

[rugged hawk]

He's an ancient 2E deity, is probably why. Anyway, he's the god of POWER, contracts, and betrayal. Worshipping him is basically being a Sith lawyer.

[woven flint]

Lolth actively enjoys people that go against her and that's honestly kinda based? Lmao

Only based thing about her, but that's pretty chill of her, I guess

[rugged hawk]

Lolth is evil as crap, but I'm convinced it's because she's so bored out of her mind that her only way to get any excitement is to cause havoc for her Drow.

[fiery nimbus]

Lolth is evil as carp

[rugged hawk]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gargauth

[oak grotto]

I have read his wiki page but I never found anything about him being in charge of the Hells.

[rugged hawk]

Ah.

[naive cedar]

Carp is evil? /j

[rugged hawk]

He used to rule the Ninth Layer, yeah. That's part of why Asmodeus got a bunch of devils together to kick him out, so Asmodeus could take his place

[remote wadi]

A little curious about something

Are there any martial ranged weapons or crossbows that are a magical weapon?

[fiery nimbus]

invasive species

[oak grotto]

Wait, that's not Ghaunadur.

[fiery nimbus]

yes, why wouldn't there be magical ranged weapons

[rugged hawk]

No, it's Gargauth, like I said. Who used to rule the Nine Hells.

[oak grotto]

Oh, you went from Ghaunadur to Gargauth so I got a little...

Module spoilers: ||When we played Descent Into Avernus we actually killed him.||

[blissful ibex]

yes, but like 1/10th the number of magic swords q_q /hj

[empty thicket]

yeah, many kind and isnt even hard to make them. Grab some effect pretty basic from any magic weapon and add it to the ranged weapon.
Fire arrows, ice, etc. etc.

[oak grotto]

||Pretty sure he was never a god in that adventure though.||

[blissful ibex]

• weapons, several generic variants (vicious, silvered, etc.), the moon bow, energy bow, etc

[empty thicket]

Can even grab some magic range attacks from Arcane ranger and put them in the bow and make it attunment and use the number of proficiency for those attacks. Etc. etc.

[prime basin]

||gub||

[rugged hawk]

He only sought divinity when he was forced out of the Nine Hells. His initial plan had been to enslave most of the western world of Faerun, then shunt the entire landmass into the Nine Hells as a new Tenth Layer, thereby conquering the entirety of the Hells at once.

[remote wadi]

I don't know any. Wanted to ask if anyone knew any good ones within reason

[prime basin]

W spoilers

[rugged hawk]

I've never read or played Descent into Avernus, so no idea if that info spoils anything

[oak grotto]

||Yeah, but in our adventure he was just a pit fiend that had fallen from grace and was locked inside a shield.||

[hidden spindle]

They eat good because there's also +1/+2/+3 Ammunition

[burnt valley]

Lolth is a saint compared to Mystra

[jovial shadow]

You honestly want a magical bow/crossbow instead of magical arrows if there is a choice to be made

[hidden spindle]

That's true. I was just noting that on top of a magical ranged weapon, their ammunition can be magical too

[oak grotto]

Damn, people must really hate Mystra for y'all to compare her to a demon.

[prime basin]

Bro wanted to be a drider

[jovial shadow]

Bro?

[oak grotto]

The male version of "sis".

Short for brother.

[remote wadi]

Perhaps, but I imagine those are quite rare, especially for a level 6 party. But then again, magic weapons would be too

[jovial shadow]

Not in 2024. It's recommended that even 1st level players get magical items

[atomic kayak]

There should really be at least one rare magic item in the party by level 5. In both 2024 and 2014

Multiple commons and uncommons for sure

[remote wadi]

We haven't really had any magical items yet, outside of a very swiftly drunk potion

[blissful ibex]

1 rare, 4 uncommons, and 6 commons per the DMG

[remote wadi]

We do, however, have pretty good synergy for being a level 5 party

Plan for next week is to take out werewolves at night with our Paladin casting Light on herself or our Fighter

Boom. I get a huge reason to spam sharpshooter, Wizard has Ray of Sickness, Druid has a few tricks of her own

[glass granite]

I thought everyone in your party had night vision?

Hello, Cat.

[empty thicket]

a 3d12 in a ranged weapon but its one time attack, would be okey?

[glass granite]

Um…maybe?

[empty thicket]

Like, i would shoot one time, without being able to attack again and will have to use the bonus action to load another bullet, that would be okey?

[charred saffron]

Hey yall! I have a question. I am drawing DND characters, and I want to advertise my freelance services to help people have cute or detailed drawings of their dnd character(s). Can I mention that in #dnd-advertisements

[stone plank]

im so new to dnd i dont get where to even start to look for pointers or places to play or people can i get some pointers pretty please

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have. Then, make a practice character and get it reviewed in #character-discussion .
Once you’re ready and got the fundamentals down, you can check out #find-a-game for information on how to find a group online. To make a post, type the appropriate command in any chat channel. There’s also DnD beyond forums, reddit or roll 20.

[idle oar]

Yes - use #dnd-advertisements for any D&D-related advertising, soliciting, or self-promotion. Make sure to read and follow the server and channel rules before posting.

[charred saffron]

thank you so much fr 🙏

[stone plank]

thank you ,3

[glass granite]

Ask your DM. For me, depends, cuz that’s a helluva good rogue weapon

[stone plank]

im so lost still

[glass granite]

Hi so lost still, I’m Nugget.
Maybe ask for in depth help in #dnd-newcomers , but they likely will give similar directions

[empty thicket]

mostly think about it like a Rifle, the one that kick you hard but not like a horse

[glass granite]

…m82 Barrett, or is that too hard?

So high calibre but not anti tank
Eh, id still say ask your DM

What’s this for? A weapon you just start off with?

[empty thicket]

i wish, i would ask for a gun that is so strong that even deal damage to me with every shoot, but htat would need me have the enough STR

[empty thicket]

curiosity in general, playing in a setting like STALKER. Im going in the idea of being a sniper (ranger hunter)

[loud ivy]

What about a gun that is so broken that it only does damage to the wielder?

anyone need a new member to their DND group? im kind of new to this whole thing...

[prime basin]

the backwards facing gun

[fossil hollow]

whats this about backblast

[loud ivy]

No I mean as in it explodes...

[glass granite]

Use it in close quarters. Blow everyone up

[fossil hollow]

point blank fireball

[loud ivy]

YES! and the parts a indestructible but it literally blows up into pieces like a Chinese doll(could be thinking of different toy) and all you have to do is put it back together again.

[eager marsh]

watched my thursday wizard kill himself with massive damage by rolling a high damage fireball, failing his own save, and having had his max HP lowered by the wight we were fighting at the time

We dont let him live it down

[remote wadi]

1. It is only out to a certain range
2. It would still be dim light at best, which is still troublesome for tracking
3. Full on light on a Frontline class means everything attacking it is mostly neutral due to sight. On the other hand, all the backline classes can attack from as far away as they reasonably can with advantage

[karmic pendant]

Why was he in fireball range

[thorny grove]

Could a gunslinger theoretically have a glock 19

[karmic pendant]

Probably

[remote wadi]

I think I almost spat out my drink reading this. Makes my own Wizard feel like he didn't screw uo as much

[karmic pendant]

I mean other classes can use guns you don't need to play a gunslinger

[hidden spindle]

No Bullseye Lantern?

[remote wadi]

No

[hidden spindle]

Darn

You'd be standing in darkness whilst shining a light

[eager marsh]

he did this while surrounded after we had pointed out he could have misty stepped out and gotten far enough away they couldnt get him for the next round

[remote wadi]

I presume because it is a cone of light and not a sphere

[empty thicket]

revolver are too good and cool

[remote wadi]

That would be helpful to find and give to our druid. That's effectively 120 feet of bright light

[hidden spindle]

Absolutely. Also, if that Druid had Control Flames, that cone could be doubled, or halved

[empty thicket]

there isnt like some arti googles that give nightvision or druid//ranger dont have nightvision spell?

[elder tree]

someone at my tables having a hissy fit rn because the other 6 people wanted to mess with a rat for 20 minutes

[remote wadi]

Probably not. And for the next level, she is considering retaking Cure Wounds to be a secondary healer. She is still able to heal everyone quite efficiently thanks to Unicorn Totem and Healing Word

[hidden spindle]

If that's a Druid, they can swap Spells after a Long Rest

[remote wadi]

They can, but they already have all the spells they need for now

Just on next level up, she can prepare one more spell than before

And taking Cure Wounds means upcasting it will heal pretty well in a pinch

[woven flint]

What was he thinking???

[blissful ibex]

Fireball, obviously
it was the last thing that ran through his head after all

[woven flint]

Sigh

[remote wadi]

I'm pretty sure Healing Word would heal... 31 at minimum

[eager marsh]

He wasn't. His character came from Strixhaven in game. And despite his intelligence, his newly lv 5 fireball having brain said 'I'm just a college student (common excuse that doesnt make sense) and I saw other students cast this spell and not get hurt themselves before!" (evocation subclasses)

[remote wadi]

If we are grouped relatively close to the totem

[idle oar]

Please keep any spoilers in #1029833015423143957

[wanton sorrel]

gasp

[humble cairn]

Light produces Bright Light, though?

[wanton sorrel]

I'm starting to like the books than digital of D&D... i like that hardcover thickness

[humble cairn]

It has the same Bright/Dim radius as a torch.

[storm epoch]

.

[wanton sorrel]

?

[remote wadi]

Yeah. I'm saying that someone who would be very easy to find and doesn't care about stealth

Could give everyone else advantage because we can be in the darkness away fron it all while still seeing them in case we can't see that far

[dry falcon]

What do I need to know starting off in dnd?

[daring hull]

Hi

[hoary mirage]

Hello

Where do I go for getting people in DnD

Campaign wise

[light cave]

Whats the best way to find a group online to play with i wanna play my first session but the dnd lfg thing is so confusing

[lone anchor]

Still no 2026 release schedule? Are they not releasing anything this year?

[woeful niche]

Hello adventures

[hoary mirage]

Real

We have a server for dnd, but I’m not sure if we’re allowed to promote it in here

#1050209410460426281

[light cave]

Dm me it

I just wanna play my first session

[hoary mirage]

It doesn’t start today, but we’ve had a session 0 and we use gooogle sheets

[lavish flame]

real. we got a third-party DDB roadmap before a proper WOTC 2026 Roadmap

its almost February

[grim hinge]

Is anyone a dungeon master or know how to run dnd or would be willing to learn and can we play DND online through video would be

[umbral girder]

This channel is not for searching or recruiting games.

#find-a-game is the place for that.

[timid anvil]

Indeed, if you are looking for a game, head to #find-a-game. It has instructions on how to use our looking for game channels.

[umbral girder]

You ever think about how some subclasses exist to fulfill the fantasy of an idea most stories/games know about, and how some subclasses are “we made a weird thing the players can play”

It was something I was thinking about with Soul Knife next to Thief and Assassin as Rogue subclasses.

[fickle heart]

Allllll the time. It's honestly pretty core to 5e/TTRPG design discourse.

If one makes something to allow pressing buttons, the button pressing is fun, but what if you want to tell a story? That's pretty much the fatal flaw of 5.24's content, despite it working really well mechanically.

[empty thicket]

yep, think that some subclasses make a "fantasy" reality.
The barbarian berserker is an example, "too angry to die"

[warped knoll]

I farted into a skeleton and now I’m facing a fart skeleton with 50 strength

[empty thicket]

Eldritch knight fit in lots of game protagonists.
Warlocks Great old one fit the idea of some eldritch entity giving you some powers.
Etc. etc.

[fickle heart]

To be fair, Berserker Barbarian is basically the origin of Barbarian.

I think Nealen is referring to stuff that is made for it to exist (I'm looking at you, Mystic Monk) and stuff that is made because it has a compelling fantasy somewhere in the wider fantasy sphere.

[wooden summit]

If you have proficiency in wearing Heavy armour, are you automatically proficient in wearing Light and Medium armour?

[empty thicket]

Nope, it mean you have it for that kind of Armor.

[wooden summit]

Ok.

[empty thicket]

okeyokey, still that is how you make it good for the game to survive. Fit your "fantasy" is how DnD work most of the time

[empty thicket]

Think it like driving a Truck, a car and a bike.
Some people can drive trucks without problem but have lots of problems with cars//bikes
same with the other 2

[knotty pasture]

That being said, when someone does have heavy armor proficiency

They usually have light and medium proficiency too to begin with

[empty thicket]

yeah but he can be a wizard and take the feat for the heavy armor training//profi

[knotty pasture]

Don't you need medium armor proficiency prior to take it

[empty thicket]

oh look, it does. Welp, one live and learn

then nvm what i said @wooden summit , i lied you for accident

wait, proficiency with armors mean you get extra AC or smt?

[wooden summit]

Ah.

[wooden summit]

No, I think that's Mastery with said armour, last I read from this wiki.

[empty thicket]

Then what it does proficiency with any armor?

damn im tired cant even remember that...anyway, good night peeply

[wooden summit]

I think it just means you don't have Disadvantage from wearing the armour.

[empty thicket]

okey okey, thought it would give you access to something else, but i guess that is good.

[remote matrix]

hey does anyone know how to join stranger worlds the homebrew discord?

[elder tree]

6 of the people during the session earlier got distracted for 20 minutes interacting with one of the players characters "pet" skaven

[wooden summit]

Yes-yes, funny ratman.

[jovial shadow]

Wiki is not D&D. Proficiency with armor just means you can wear it without disadvantage from STR and DEX Test, as well as can't cast spells

[elder tree]

we had a combat encounter last like an hour and a half also

[hot gate]

That's not that unusual in my experience, but it depends a lot on level, amount of pcs and enemy numbers.

[frank turtle]

is tashas marked as legacy in the character creator

[hot gate]

It is considered "Expanded Rules" last I checked.
However, some content from Tashas was also reprinted in 2024, so that specific content will be legacy. For example, circle of stars druid and way of mercy monk.

[trail mica]

We are about to start playing some dnd right now and we just realized a thing my warlock could do. I have a sprite familiar. Combined with gaze of two minds, eldritch blast and eldritch spear allows me to do an orbital bombardment of enemies with eldritch blast from a tiny fey over 300 feet in the air

[jovial badger]

hi all! just went to a dnd liveshow!

[jovial badger]

dont think so.

[hot gate]

The one hitch there is that you still need to be within 60 feet of the familiar.

[hidden spindle]

How was it?

[jovial badger]

really cool actually! there was a quiz and then a live campaign with the best rp people ive ever seen

[hidden spindle]

That's incredible!

What happened with the quiz? Prizes?

[jovial badger]

prizes if we won (we didnt)

[hidden spindle]

Oh no.

Do you remember the question(s)?

[glass granite]

DnD trivia two, electric boogaloo?

[wanton sorrel]

0_0

[jovial badger]

a bit..

[burnt valley]

Your familiar if it has innate spellcasting feature, can a cast its own Familiar with a Find Familiar scroll, allowing you to bypass said limitation by getting an exotic saddle and choose Giant Fly

[hot gate]

To use a spell scroll, the spell would need to be on its spell list. Needless to say, there is no familiar like that.

[burnt valley]

Wait, you are right, i'll correct this later (I may have misremembered the details)

[fierce widget]

hai everyone

i have a question regading a dnd campagin im watching

[lost idol]

Moin

[pastel wraith]

hi

[misty vault]

are you trying to get a familiar who got their own pet familiar who then got their own pet familiar chain?

[pastel wraith]

what

[fierce widget]

So im not sure if people have seen

this campagin vldl adventurs of azerim

theres an item in the campaign that they never discovered what it does

and im just wondering if people have figured it out on there own

the mask

[pastel wraith]

no sorry

[feral fulcrum]

Considering it's probably homebrew, no, nobody has figured it out on there own.

[fierce widget]

Its a mask of curiosity but theres more and he perfectly made it to make people want to figure it out

[earnest canyon]

Its the missing comedy mask from Endelyn Theatre IIRC.

[fierce widget]

Yea but its what it does

[earnest canyon]

Not sure what it does but remember seeing a theory thats what it was

[fierce widget]

we know it makes you want to figure it out

[earnest canyon]

Apparently it works to well.

[fierce widget]

hahaa rob really made it so WE the viewer are curious

[trail mica]

Ah bummer. I wonder if there's a way to bypass that

[fiery perch]

If we allowed all the classes to be able to swap spells during long rest do you think the wizard would still be #1

if yes - then what is it about the wizard that makes it more broken than any other class in the game

[limber trail]

Wizards still have a much wider range of spells than most other classes, at I believe all levels they have more prepared spells than any other classes.

[hidden spindle]

Wizards already can swap Spells over a Long Rest

[fiery perch]

Bro did not understand

[fiery perch]

Ritual spells I believe - but I think they only get like 2 more than the sorcerer

[hidden spindle]

Sorcerer's, Bards, and Warlocks swapping Spells over a Long Rest wouldn't change how a Wizard performs

[limber trail]

Sorcerer is interesting because they only know that many spells, whereas wizards can know 50+

[fiery perch]

#1 depends on how others performs - wizard is the most broken class because it can do almost everything others can, if everyone else got buffed then how much viable is wizard.

[hidden spindle]

And even Clerics and Druids have access to their entire Spell List.

But it is Wizards who have more Spells

[fiery perch]

Just the size of the spell list alone?

[hidden spindle]

Absolutely

Bards might have the biggest thought with Magical Secrets...

[fiery perch]

Yea but they can't swap spells which makes them less appealing

[hidden spindle]

But that's why they were designed with the 'Swap Once per Long Rest' design

[limber trail]

Ultimately if every other class was buffed and wizard wasn’t then yeah wizard would be worse

[hidden spindle]

Sorcerer's only know like... 4 Rituals

That's particularly why the Designers stepped away from from an Arcane, Divine, and Primal Spell List; Encroached all over the Wizard's beautiful massive long Spell List

So it wouldn't matter if the other classes could swap Spells over a Long Rest (Except Bard's Magical Secrets)

[fiery perch]

I don't think they get ritual casting

[hidden spindle]

2024, anyone who prepared a Ritual Spell can Ritual Cast a Ritual Spell

[rough basalt]

Wizard got reasonable changes imo

[limber trail]

Oh I’m referring to the hypothetical where every class got wizard’s ability to change spells on a long rest

[rough basalt]

Ah

[limber trail]

Wizards overall got good changes and they’re in a pretty good place

[rough basalt]

Yeah the new school feature giving you an always prepared spell from your school is better than the scroll copying for schools with niche magic so they don't have to waste learned spells for identity

[hidden spindle]

I like that they got Expertise; I can Expertise Medicine

[humble cairn]

Is Medicine one of them?

[hidden spindle]

Yup. The only non-INT

[humble cairn]

Ahh, neat!

[humble cairn]

Specifically the Wizard version? Like where you have a list of learned spells in a book? Or are you talking the Cleric version, where you can just swap for any spell on your list?

[limber trail]

I’m assuming the example was in reference to the wizard version. I’m not sure, it wasn’t a hypothetical that I posed or necessarily agree with

[hidden spindle]

Cleric version

[humble cairn]

Yeah, comparatively there would be much less reason to play Wizard. It would be the most limited casting class since they don't have access to their whole list, but have to find their spells and spend money to add them to their list? Like, what?

[hidden spindle]

I suppose that's why the Savant features nets you a school-spell when gaining a new Spell Slot level on top of the two each level.

Some DM's forget to give Spell Scrolls to learn from

[rough basalt]

Some wizards also forget they can do that as well.

[hidden spindle]

Facts

[rough basalt]

But getting a free spell for the 1st to 5th level from your school as always prepared is good

[rugged hawk]

Wizard is for the incompetently untalented who have no innate ability for magic

[rough basalt]

Let's you as a Diviner take Divination spells without taking away from your more likely useful potential learned spells

[rugged hawk]

It's not meant to be easy to learn spells as a Wizard. You're learning magic The Hardest Way, after all. Lacking any innate magic ability, you've got to build it up from scratch.

[rough basalt]

Yeah but you can't learn magic if your dm doesn't give you the ability to in '14

2024 moved towards trying to keep DMs and players from sticking their hands in each other's pie.

Like old Level 20 DI which was once per 7 days the DM is your loyal servant

[hidden spindle]

They're paying for an education hea in a world of monsters and magic

[misty vault]

wizard gotta adventure to pay back that college of wizardry student debt.

[hidden spindle]

Bards go to College

And pay nothing

Music pays off

[rugged hawk]

Sure, but as a roleplaying game, sometimes you gotta really roleplay your char's actions toward the DM's NPC. Sometimes this means violence, sometimes it means hands. /s

[queen nacelle]

i have the urge to draw and doodle my dnd characters but i have a commission to complete im tweaking

[rough basalt]

That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about player features that relied on dms permission and whim, or level 20 DI where you're in the wrong if you say no to something or monkey paw it.

A lot of dms just outright refuse to hand out magic items including consumables. And a lot more just forget to hand out scrolls.

[rugged hawk]

Yes, I know. Stop sucking the magic out of interaction.

[humble cairn]

Even with a spell scroll in hand, it takes reagents that cost money to scribe them into your spellbook.

[rugged hawk]

Too bad you can't just take the scroll and stuff it into the book, where it will magically attach itself as a new page.

[rough basalt]

And nice part is, you can still copy magic

[rugged hawk]

Actually, that would make for an excellent Wizard magic tome.

[rough basalt]

So it wasn't removed, just something for players that have forgetful or those dms

[tame kelp]

Why my bard player always like to cast "fly" even tho some situation seem not so serious.

[rough basalt]

Some people have a spell they enjoy

[tame kelp]

This is weird.

[rough basalt]

If the situation isn't serious then hey that's a 3rd level slot burned

[rugged hawk]

In hindsight, this would be an excellent magic item for Wizards. A spellbook that essentially absorbs spell scrolls rather than needing them scribed. It would also provide a great target for hostile Wizards to attempt to steal.

[hidden spindle]

Like a Spell Scroll Bookmark. Magically (or mundanely) adhering itself to the Spell Book

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, a spellbook that bypasses the whole scribing part and costs related. Highly useful, also highly targetable by hostile entities wishing for one themselves.

[hidden spindle]

Let them fly

[tame kelp]

what

also Eldritch Blast

at 5th lvl, 2 beams. Do I need to roll attack for each beam?

[halcyon forum]

yes

each one is a separate attack. you also dont have to declare the target of your second beam until you resolved the first attack

[hoary totem]

More like, they have the most choice compared to other spellcasters especially arcane casters. Sorcerers have to try not to explode once every 5 seconds because someone smashed a dragon. Warlocks get coerced into forming pacts that they might have to agree to to survive. Wizards decided they'd get nerdy and copied down cheatcodes to make stuff explode

[tame kelp]

My favorite spell is just Wall of Force which pissed off my dm so much when I used to be a newbie player before 2024 arrive

[rough basalt]

Not everyone can be a Wizard depending on the setting

It does take having some special talent and hard work to become a capable one.

[viscid stone]

Why is there so many DnD groups that only allow adults? 💔

[rough basalt]

Cause DnD is a very popular hobby for adults

[viscid stone]

Why do I have to be specifically 18 to play

[heavy oxide]

not all adults want to play with children

[rough basalt]

You don't need to, you just need to find other minors to play with.

[viscid stone]

It's kinda hard to find ngl

[hidden spindle]

Specifically 18 to play is rather odd ngl

[heavy oxide]

i got lucky since my cousins run games

[viscid stone]

Yo, is this why y'all adults don't wanna play with kids?

[viscid stone]

No, like 18+ (I typed it wrong)

[heavy oxide]

its also just a maturity thing like you wouldnt wanna play with a 10 year old

[viscid stone]

I don't think 10 year olds don't even use discord

[heavy oxide]

thats not the point

[viscid stone]

Like make it 16+?

[rough basalt]

Mostly because we don't wanna have to censor ourselves

[heavy oxide]

exactly

[viscid stone]

Does make sense

I should look harder ig

[hidden spindle]

If possible, there might be groups like local library or game shops that run games

[viscid stone]

The problem with finding people is no one irl really know English nor do they care about fantasy games. My cousins and siblings? Nah, they too busy with their stuff

The language barrier creates problems such as learning the rules

[hidden spindle]

That's fair. I'm in the cities and only just found out about the whole local libraries and game stores running games

[worn lagoon]

That's a very usual problem in countries where DnD is not localized

[hidden spindle]

Some times, it takes a particular person to learn to DM & teach a game

[worn lagoon]

You might want to join an online campaign

[viscid stone]

I get that 😭

[viscid stone]

Oh, now that you mention even if I somehow get people to learn about this. There needs to be a decent dm..

[viscid stone]

That's why I've been looking for them a lot and just find groups that only allow adults 💔

I got some 2 or 3 more people who are the same age as me. But we don't have a dm lol

[hidden spindle]

A classic origin story for many DMs

"Fine. I'll do it myself."

[worn lagoon]

Felt.

I've had a total of one competent DM so far.

[fair summit]

Same 😭
"Had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong"

Granted DM is my favourite role, but I do wanna play sometimes, and finding a good DM is tough

[woeful hearth]

Morning liches and witches

[worn lagoon]

I much prefer to be a player. Unfortunately Luck has not been on my side.

Very chill party, that single competent dm's. I look forward to our session two tomorrow.

[empty thicket]

i plan to someday be a DM, i have some story ideas that will see in some future and with some experience i do them

[fair summit]

I've had a total of 4 DMs for longer games

• One that just dipped one session and never came back, so I started a short game with the rest of the players as their DM

• One that had a DMPC in the game, used said DMPC to effortlessly steal themselves and the party some storng magic items, some of which completely made my character's investments in abilities wasted, and favored two players at the expense of the rest of the party (At the end of the session they just revealed that the entire plot of the current session was predetermined to fit those characters' story, and none of our efforts could change it, which explained some weird stuff going on). Only game I ever left in the middle of it.

• One of my current players running a game where honestly they've managed to do so really well, avoiding many problems that would usually come from the type of game they run

• Another of my current players, great guy and player, but has difficulty saying "no", is overly excited to give some busted magic items (I literally got a magic book at level 7 that lets me choose any spell from any class, one for each spell slot, anbd change them each day), and our vision of my character seems to constantly be completely different 😅

[worn lagoon]

How come DMs never use their DMPCs as a proper oppurtunity for an interesting character who just happens to travel with the party?

[hidden spindle]

I had a DM who recognized there was a backseat DM, who always said they weren't the DM and took like an hour to metagame the DM's game apart

[fair summit]

I mean that's just an NPC, isn't it

[worn lagoon]

I'm not too sure why it's only DMPC if you do it poorly

[fair summit]

The whole concept of a DMPC is that the DM attempts to also be a player, while being the DM. Player isn't just gonna travel around as a background character

[worn lagoon]

...??? What sort of DM has the energy to play AND dm?

No wonder their campaigns flop. My attention is always divided by 5 people exploring

[fair summit]

One who wants to play, can't find a DM, so they come up with the "clever" solution of doing both

[empty thicket]

its... isnt easy sometimes, you have to giga nerf yourself because for being a player and DM you know how "things work" and you cant be too good because you will be taking the spotlight of the players

[fair summit]

There are too many things that can easily go wrong trying to do that, so it leads to the horror stories, and there's very few ways to do it "properly"

[hidden spindle]

Yup. Like an NPC who is with the party, usually for a short time. Sometimes longer like the adopted goblin

[worn lagoon]

Not offering meta knowledge should be included in the roleplay part

[empty thicket]

The best example of DMPC i can think is, using an example from a game, "Terraria, the guide"

[fair summit]

Again, wouldn't that just be an NPC

[empty thicket]

kinda, again, you cant get too much spotlight because AGAIN, you are both DM and player.
There is a puzzle in front of you being a DMPC, you know the answer but have to act dummy to dont spoil it.
Same with enemies, etc. etc. etc.

[wanton sorrel]

so a companion with no backstory what so ever.... wow this almost feel like DDO >.>

[fair summit]

How is this different from just having an NPC?

[hidden spindle]

Typically, they use levels and class features

[empty thicket]

That you can help the players in some lil moments of need or when they are giga stuck.
If not, what is other option?

[worn lagoon]

my "dmpc" once claimed he could see a hatch on the ground, but phased right through what he thought he saw. this spurred the rest of the party to investigate. they eventually found the real hatch themselves. it was nice.

[reef tundra]

The line between NPC and DMPC can be thin

[reef tundra]

That is an excellent use of a DMPC

[fair summit]

An NPC can just do that, you don't need to be an additional player to give hints and help to the party

[worn lagoon]

granted, they had the option to ask the innkeeper where the hatch was. so i just wanted to push them to solve a little puzzle.

[empty thicket]

that is nice, still tricky because it give a big "hint", would make it not so reliable. Sometimes will give a "hint" and might be wrong

[empty thicket]

yeah, but like amity said, the line is thin.
And again, what is the other option? Leave the DM to solve the puzzle that he made?

[worn lagoon]

that minotaur's still just an in-universe character, not a deus ex machina. i could totally mislead them.

[empty thicket]

epic

For a reason there is DM // Players more oftenly than DM // DMPC // Players

[worn lagoon]

Actually, why don't I mislead them? Echo if you're reading this no you aren't.

[empty thicket]

Either because takign 2 roles can be too hassle for 1 person.
Dont understanding the story is for the players and the DM is either the story teller and help to guide them in the story.

[full wadi]

One persistent DMPC is one approach, but I sometimes have NPC statblock characters tag along for brief bouts of time.

Not always humanoid NPCs...

[worn lagoon]

my current "dmpc" is the employer of the party, and also sort of their guide since none of the characters are otherwise too familiar with the hells.

[empty thicket]

Yeah, you can be a good DMPC, if you see the team is lacking heals in a really bad way you can say something like "im a pacifist cleric, i wont kill anyone, will only help you all in your noble cause"

and then you have solved a DMPC that wont take the spotlight of the team and will be there helping them

[worn lagoon]

managing another pc in the initiative order sounded so daunting that i just make him cast one with shadows and spend battles afk

[wanton sorrel]

the only thing i would ever use a DMPC is for tutorial that's it.

[stark arch]

how com?

[empty thicket]

Or if the party is under some company put some DMPC that is like a employer and check them, when he is entering in combat he just BLINK away and wait for them to finish the enemies or retrieve them if they get TPK for getting a team heal//revive

[stark arch]

Absorb element must have defense spell for wizards?

[empty thicket]

There are many ways to do it, but at first is understanding each other role DM is the writter, the players are the protagonists

[wanton sorrel]

so is that easy mode then?

[worn lagoon]

i've got all these stat blocks readied for in case the party ever turn their back on that minotaur, but no one seems to want to kill him, so i'm just sitting here with a cool helsik-inspired warlock boss

[empty thicket]

wont be cheap tho, after such thing they would get X ammount of money taken by the company for the expenses in revive them//fullheal them.
But yeah, easy mode. Sometimes is nice to have a light campaign

the classic "adventurers guild" that take tasks around the world and send adventurers kind of thing, easy to understand easy to get.

[worn lagoon]

not all adventures need to be high-stakes

as much as i intend to keep disintegrating my barbarian player, i won't permakill his beloved dragonborn unless he wants to. they'll just have to... stuff the ashes in a jar...

...then find a way to resurrect him with that

[empty thicket]

Yep, that is the idea. Sometimes relax, dont think too much is nice and more if you know that those sessions are a fresh air for your players.

[empty thicket]

"Eermmm... guys, i am one arm missing, you didnt took all the ashes"

[worn lagoon]

imagine making a clay man out of a disintegrated party member's ashes

[empty thicket]

i was thinking more in an idea i have
A living armor that is a slime inside of an armor (warforged flavored) that if he get "kill" he can just move to another kind of suit.
Can be either a paladin, a ranger, etc. etc.

while a chunk of him live he will live

[worn lagoon]

one of my suggestions for him was, since he was a zealot barb, his spirit could keep fighting on like his real body, just with a few undead-like qualities. he'd just not able to go very far from his ash jar, which he could carry himself.

spirit form with radiant weakness/necrotic immunity or smth

[empty thicket]

Pffff, nice nice

[worn lagoon]

local man so angry he continues to fight after total disintegration

[empty thicket]

the classic barbarian

[stark arch]

how good is the Vortex Warp spell playing as necromancer?? i could use this to re posistion my skeleton horde in 1 action

says . The target must succeed on a Constitution saving throw. wats the DC??

[feral fulcrum]

I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of my next session. Going to be doing a dream quest with Pan (The Satyr God, and God of Change in my DM's homebrew setting).

[worn lagoon]

The target can choose to fail.

[feral fulcrum]

It's single Target, so you could reposition ONE skeleton. Not a horde.

[stark arch]

on fail? the spells doest work?

[feral fulcrum]

The Spell Dodes exactly what it says it does

[worn lagoon]

The target can choose to purposefully "fail" the saving throw, thus automatically teleport

[feral fulcrum]

Read it, it'll tell you how it works.

[stark arch]

ugh some where i readed up to 9 XD

sounds like a beter version of mystistep

[feral fulcrum]

You're probably thinking of Scatter.

[tame kelp]

Can a player who used to rules 2014 adapt to 2024 rule easily?

[earnest canyon]

Yes

[feral fulcrum]

They're functionally the same Rules, baseline, so, yes.

[hidden spindle]

Very easily

[feral fulcrum]

They only added a couple things, reworded a thing here and there.

[tame kelp]

Idk how much 2024 rule got changes like spells, and everything

[stark arch]

so vortex is a beter version of mystistep with more range

[feral fulcrum]

It only had a handful of things added, reworded some things here and there, and shuffled class feats around along with some minor changes to how a couple things work. Baseline, still 5E.

[turbid vessel]

I mean ones an action and ones a bonus action

[rugged hawk]

2024 rules are just the D&D equivalent of the Anniversary edition of Skyrim so Todd WotC can resell it again.

[feral fulcrum]

If you can manage rolling a handful of dice, and have basic reading comprehension, you can handle 2024 just as easily as 2014.

[loud tendon]

and one only teleports yourself while the other can target other creatures.

[feral fulcrum]

5E is still as straightforward and accesible as it's always been.

[turbid vessel]

Most of the changes just cleaned some stuff up and added a few new toys to play with

Some people call it 5.5e but I feel like that's really misleading

[feral fulcrum]

I mean it's not that misleading

[turbid vessel]

The hop between 3.0 and 3.5 was much more transformative than 2014 and 2024

[feral fulcrum]

It's changes Subclasses, spell wordings, items, added new subsystems. There's enough change to warrant considering it an interim edition IMO.

The main reason WOTC absolutely refuses to call it 5.5 is because Marketing would die of a heart attack

[turbid vessel]

From a design standpoint, the only thing that changed about the system was the peripherals. If anything of the core engine changed, I'd agree that it plays as a .5 jump

[earnest canyon]

It would have been easier to just have the differentation but yeah WoTC didnt want to commit to the edition change.

[turbid vessel]

I don't disagree that marketing was part of the decision

But I also still hold that it doesn't truly feel like an interim edition

[earnest canyon]

I dont think the change was drastic enough, but It does happen where there are enough differences that you have to specify which edition you are discussing.

[feral fulcrum]

It's fiddles enough with things that it needs to be called something other then "5E but updoot."

[turbid vessel]

True, but the same also applies to Tome of Foes and Monsters of the Universe, both books having released under 2014 dnd

If anything at all changed you'd have to specify which one you're talking about in the right circumstances

[earnest canyon]

I dont follow the point you are making there?

[feral fulcrum]

I think they were referencing the slightly updated race statblocks

[keen valve]

Definitely not a drastic change, but I don't blame them for naming it that way. I mean it's just kind of the easy and obvious option. It's not like Wizards have version numbers for 5e (I.e. D&D 5e V 1.7) to have set a presidence beforehand, that and 2024 is a little wordy.

[feral fulcrum]

At least for MOM

Speaking of MOnsters of the Multiverse, I find it very funny that it reprinted Fairies, like, two months after it was first printed in Witchlight

[turbid vessel]

Mordenkainens Tome of Foes and Mordenkainens Monsters of the Multiverse where both books released for 2014 5e. Races, stat blocks and lore were updated from ToF to MotM. So if you said, for example, "I'm playing a Yuan Ti," there are circumstances where you'd have to specify from which book you're taking the ancestry from
So the point I'm making is that, it's true that you have to specify between talking about 2014 and 2024 DnD. But any sort of change can require specification, and that it's not unique to the 2024 updates

[earnest canyon]

Oh ok, I get what you mean now.

[crimson gulch]

They wanted to make them accessible to folks who don't buy campaigns

[tame kelp]

I wonder why my players always like to self-insert in my campaign?

It's kinda cringe tbh.

[empty thicket]

Velma kinda of self insert or a good self insert?

[empty thicket]

and its okey, sometimes one like to think they are in those adventures. It feel nice

[turbid vessel]

There's a point to be made that every DND character we play is a self insert to some degree 😜

[rough basalt]

That's when you self insert as a dm into monsters
Look at a Yugoloth, you say "he's literally me"

[turbid vessel]

Like the people who kin joker

"guys you don't understand Strahd is literally me"

[worn lagoon]

My most evil character is, unfortunately, all my flaws exaggerated

[rough basalt]

"Me visualizing the man in the mirror I wanna become" and it's a Kraken.

[tame kelp]

Are there any race that is shadow related?

[worn lagoon]

Self-inserting and your character accidentally ends up as what the players describe as a mad tyrant

[tame kelp]

This new player of mine want to be one with the shadow.

It's kinda cringe

[rough basalt]

Shadar-Kai

[worn lagoon]

Shadar-kai is a strong contender

Also, nothing cringe about that whatsoever.

[native apex]

i wanna start playind dnd but i don't know what campaign to start with

[worn lagoon]

The ability to disappear at will is very enviable

[rough basalt]

You start with whatever sounds fun that you manage to get into.

[turbid vessel]

Why keep calling your players cringe? That's more cringe than anything

[tame kelp]

He just reminded me of my past when I used to be a new player.

[blissful ibex]

they could play warlock and literally take the 'One with Shadows' Invocation
reflavored Kalashtar could work for species

[heady crypt]

anyone actually playing right now and have an opening, hoping to find peeps to be active with again in DC, all my SP computer games getting boring as hell. Miss playing D&D and ChatGPT as a DM single player just doesn't cut it a long with being sad. 😛 🙂

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

• Instructions for finding a game here on the server (including how to post in our #looking-for channels).
• Suggestions for finding a game outside of this server.
• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[blissful ibex]

#looking-for-players

[loud tendon]

Please take a look at #find-a-game for rules on how our looking for channels work.

We dont allow group formation or solicitation in other channels.

[umbral girder]

Yeah this is what I’m thinking about.

[tame kelp]

I thought it's only me

cuz usually dnd characters are just made with fictional names, not real nickname of ourseleves.

[blissful ibex]

What is a nickname if not a fictional name?

[umbral girder]

My thought too lmao

[tame kelp]

uh..... idk

[rough basalt]

I usually play characters I'll find fun

[blissful ibex]

Exactly XD
it's not really an issue, there is far more troublesome table behaviour to worry over without nitpicking a player's character name choices

[rugged hawk]

What's in a name? That which we call a rose, would by any other name smell as sweet.

[rough basalt]

I try to stick away from characters who'll want some kind of story.

[keen valve]

Wait... you mean to tell me John Fighter somehow reflects me irl?
(Joking.)

[rough basalt]

Unless it's just "kill something"

[tame kelp]

the thing about being shadow stuff blah blah I hate is that they have something like "ohh I hate light or sunlight"

[delicate fossil]

Hello, I'm about to create my own one-shot and I was wondering if you had any tips or advice for me
And if there was a method to properly make one

[rough basalt]

Pick a simple idea, and stick to it.

[misty vault]

and have fun

[blissful ibex]

Light sensitivity used to be a species trait for species like kobold tbf

[delicate fossil]

I got one!

[blissful ibex]

#dm-discussion

[keen valve]

Have you considered they may be a vampire and are begging you to "PLEASE STOP SHINING SUNLIGHT ON ME!?!?" rather than being goth?

[rugged hawk]

Very well. I Wish for a giant asteroid impact to end the world.

[rough basalt]

It's better to have a one shot that is finished quick than one that won't be finished imo so sticking to simple may lead to a quick simple one shot but that's the point.

[misty vault]

You find out the giant asteroid is actually a bunch of junk from the Astral Plane from the contents of destroyed bags of holdings. (Thanks Artificers).

[hot marlin]

All names are fiction. "Identity" is an elaborate fiction agreed-upon.

In truth, there is no you. Only entropy as you fall into the abyss.

Hi, Incubus here. For no particular reason, I feel I should tell you I am not actually a fiend

[blissful ibex]

It's a convenient short hand that is basically a quirk of language due to a lack of ability to properly refer to an individual without some sort of moniker

[turbid vessel]

Okay John Locke, didn't know we let you in

[misty vault]

"What's your name?" "Only Entropy as You Fall Into the Abyss." "We call him Earl."

[rugged hawk]

Reality is naught but cooperative delusion.

[hot marlin]

This echo is an echo of wisdom.

[tame kelp]

I have an idea..

I'll let someone cast "Darkness"

[rugged hawk]

Okay, I cast magic missiles at the darkness

[blissful ibex]

it's a good spell

[tame kelp]

YES!

That spell is completely useful for a character who "hate light"

[misty vault]

Where is the Mt. Dew?

[tame kelp]

Those GODDAMN shadowfellers smh.