dnd-discussion

[jaunty wyvern]

I always just say “Casting spells or attacks towards another pc requires consent from both parties” and that lets pvp happen in a way where it makes sense

[empty thicket]

yep, that is why if there is a "betrayer" i would make many moments from where the party save him and more, building up a trust and a reason to that betrayer to expose himself and get a redemption.

If he chose to. Cant deny the player decision.

But again, choices have consequences. If not there was no point for a choice

[wintry spindle]

I like subclasses that changes how mechanically the classes is played. Like bladesinger wizard or celestial warlock. More classes should get that treatment

Way of mercy monk is great. I get to smack and heal

[keen kestrel]

Same, knowledge cleric is another fun one

[wintry spindle]

Ye

Usually i think that is my go to subclasses

[proven mountain]

Theurgy Wizard was pretty cool

[keen kestrel]

I’m playing a hexblade right now, it’s wild to be a full caster in medium armor with a sword

[wintry spindle]

Divine soul sorccerer is is also neat

[devout plume]

can prestidigitation soil someones pants?
the affect in question: "You instantaneously clean or soil an object no larger than 1 cubic foot."

[wintry spindle]

Oh the new genie paladin seems also nice

[woven flint]

Yes.

[jaunty wyvern]

Dancer bard my beloved

[keen kestrel]

It’s a shame they chose to do spellfire over this

[wintry spindle]

whats dancer bard gimmic?

[keen kestrel]

I love the new genie paladin, it really flips how it works

[civic palm]

I shall now disappear into an eternal slumber of one-to-eight-hours. Goodbye gamers.

[devout plume]

perfect time to go soil a kings pants then make him kneel with command

[jaunty wyvern]

Unarmed strikes adding cha mod to AC

[wintry spindle]

Arcane archer does not work though

[woven flint]

Genies Paladin doesn't change much, but encourages unarmored Paladins

[jaunty wyvern]

Monk stuff

[wintry spindle]

Sounds cool

[lean wigeon]

this is how i wish multiclass fantasies should've been explored

[woven flint]

Normalize unarmored fighting

[jaunty wyvern]

Evasion AoE (at level 14 sad)

[lean wigeon]

things like divine soul sorc are just so much more interesting imo without sacrificing class progression

[wintry spindle]

Artificer is the class with the most subclass changes it playstile

[jaunty wyvern]

I’d argue that artificer is made by what subclass you choose

Its unflavored chicken without it

[wintry spindle]

Im still lookig forward to the frankenstein esque one

[woven flint]

Reanimator

[wintry spindle]

I feel wizards outside bladesinger is to much same same

Necromancer has a lot of potential

[jaunty wyvern]

Illusionist is the funniest subclass imaginable

[wintry spindle]

Oh yeah swasbuckler is another good one

[sleek cloud]

I love buckling swashes

[jaunty wyvern]

I think most classes are improved by a swash dip

[wintry spindle]

I feel fighter has a lot of potential but doesnt do that much

[sleek cloud]

Swash dip is pretty expensive since it takes 3 levels

[jaunty wyvern]

Fighter only needs to do one thing and it does it remarkably well

[wintry spindle]

thats true. I think echo knight is pretty cool but its also sorta broken

[jaunty wyvern]

I love it when he said “lets fight” and fought all over the place

[wintry spindle]

I think ranger has like 2 good ones but they dont change that much

[keen kestrel]

Yesssss

@woven flint you know what we need? An unarmored cleric

[empty thicket]

fighter is good, he can literally pick up any weapon//armor and make it work

Its a jack of trades in martial

[wintry spindle]

I like fighter on its own but it just doesnt have that multi class that changes it that much how its played. The closes i think is arcane archer or cavalieer but they dont do that much

[empty thicket]

The only thing is the subclasses that make you use X weapons, arcane archer, some battle maneuvers that need X weapon, cavelieer

[wintry spindle]

I wouldn't mind playing a champion fighter, but most of it would just come from what i provide my charachter flavor and story than mechanics. which is fine

I think mechanics shouldn't make the charachter, but it's a fun way to add to it

[empty thicket]

Eldritch knight make you get spells, that is a big change of gameplay.
But yeah, its "basic" but at least you can make an identity with a weapon, style of fighting, etc.

[wintry spindle]

I like eldritch knight, but i often just fall into booming blade stile

I do think the new weapon mastery for trident has some fun mechanics with the eldritch knights bound weapon feature

[empty thicket]

Its the way i see it, you can choose to be the fighter you want to be.
There is variety of weapons, the subclasses can let you have a personality around it too, like.
My champion fighter is kinda arrogant when it came to fighting stuff because i already stated in my party with my actions, im lethal.

[potent vector]

I should point out this gets less prevalent with Eberron expanded Spell lists

You get so many more options that way

[wintry spindle]

the old one?

[potent vector]

Both 2014 and 2024

[empty thicket]

Banneret make you be some sort of general in the battle too, etc etc.

And if you cant see it good, then go to the other side of hte coin in martials and compare them
Monk.

[wintry spindle]

which spells do you like with eldritch knight from eberron?

[potent vector]

2024 or 2014?

[empty thicket]

While fighter can make a whole personality in his fighting style, weapon choices and more. Monk is forced to make the whole character personality based in himself.

[wintry spindle]

well isnt the only spell in 2024 ebberon hommunculus servant?

[potent vector]

Expanded* spell lists, srry, should just say Mark feats.

[stoic haven]

Explain

[wintry spindle]

oh yeah I ran a barbarian with abberant dragonmark

works really well since you can use con to cast

did wild magic and used the dragon mark as the thing that made his rage act weird

[empty thicket]

Fighter can make his personality based in
His own story
Weapon choices
Fighting style
Subclass
Etc.

While a monk can use what?
His subclass, story, some items maybe....and?

[wintry spindle]

Justice

[potent vector]

Counterpoint, multiclassing. Monk is very multiclass friendly.

[wintry spindle]

batmanpunching.gif

[empty thicket]

True, but multiclassing is the cheat card in all this cards game.

[valid geyser]

isnt monk one of the worst classes to multiclass?

[potent vector]

Which is why I say it deserves a mention on Monk, because they're high up in classes that synergize well with the feature

[empty thicket]

Oh look, my fighter cant have spells and i already took champion subclass
Solution, multiclass to wizard lets say.

[wintry spindle]

I do agree as a monk player, I do feel every time i don't take a monk lvl its not in my interest

[empty thicket]

Oh look, my sorc want to use a burst of damage, multiclass to fighter for action surge.
Oh look, my paladin want to have more mobility, multiclass to rogue or smt.

Cheat card the mutliclass.

[wintry spindle]

can't action surge lvl spells

[potent vector]

But it's one of the most tempting classes to take a dip out of.

[empty thicket]

Irrelevant to the point but taken.

Welp, you can in fact multiclass monk to.... let me see, rogue and ranger

Both using the principale stats of monk being Wisd and dext

[wintry spindle]

The UA Spellcasting monk kinda works with multiclass with sorcrerer like a coffelock

[empty thicket]

But my point in this whole thing is, you can pick a class that is basic and open in lot of stuff and work around it to make a whole character
Or pick something a bit more "closed" like monk and then you would make up the things of that character.

[glass mica]

Yo, does ANYONE here listen to Dungeons & Daddies?

[empty thicket]

Im worried about that name....

[wintry spindle]

It's the borderlands 2 guys dnd game

[karmic pendant]

Ok but why that name

[brave folio]

What are ur guys opinion on the Variant Human species

[glass granite]

My favourite

[wintry spindle]

The species i've picked the most

Free feat is great

[keen kestrel]

Probably the most optimal, getting a free feat in 2014 is crazy good

[empty thicket]

Yeah, that extra origin feat feel too nice. But wont deny that other species are nice too

[glass granite]

Sad, but reasonable, that it doesn’t exist in 2024

[glass granite]

It wasn’t relegated to origin feats tho

It can be any feat

[brave folio]

Wait it’s not a thing anymore?

[empty thicket]

But honestly,
Making a human fighter that with his pure will and strength face creatures that would shock or destroy others.

[glass granite]

Nope, human has been reprinted

[rough basalt]

It got assimilated into base human but limited to origin feats

[empty thicket]

Its peak for me

[rough basalt]

It's a fair balance

[keen kestrel]

In 2024 rules, the base human gets a free origin feat instead

[wintry spindle]

Nothing beats human fighter who embodies The Indomitable Human Spirit

[rough basalt]

Especially since new books add more origin feats

[brave folio]

Damn I just made a variant human character thinking it was still a thing😂

[wintry spindle]

depends which rules you play with

[rough basalt]

New human champion fighter is hilariously good

[keen kestrel]

If I’m being honest, human is still probably most optimal, since there’s some really strong origin feats

[rough basalt]

New humans also get an inspiration once per day

[wintry spindle]

Goliath is pretty great in 2024

[keen kestrel]

You can still operate with 2014 rules or even a mix of the two, so long as your dm allows it

[brave folio]

Understandable

[wintry spindle]

But nothing beats the best species ever... 3 goblins in a trench coat

[keen kestrel]

Oh yeah, reliable heroic inspiration is really good too

[rough basalt]

New human fits very well imo

[potent vector]

Rerolling wild magic with it is a very cool build idea to me

[glass granite]

Wait you can do that?

I forgot it was with any die

[keen kestrel]

Any d20 roll

[potent vector]

They described as the "pioneers" of the realms, their short life span sparking lots of ambition.

[rough basalt]

The feat is human individuality, and the heroic inspiration is cause humans are short lived and have to make every day count.

[potent vector]

Not in 2024e. Any roll.

[keen kestrel]

That’s actually wild lmao, I just read it

[glass granite]

Like, wild magic? /j

[keen kestrel]

I haven’t gotten to play with 2024 rules yet, but that’s awesome

[potent vector]

From wild magic to damage rolls

[keen kestrel]

Any roll

[rough basalt]

Inspiration getting put into the players hands to a degree is one of my favorite additions

Since it makes sense for adventurers to be able to be inspired by each other and themselves

[keen kestrel]

Basically, just play human with lucky and alert, you’ll get to do all the things

[potent vector]

Champion fighter getting it every turn is very cool

[keen kestrel]

That too

[valid geyser]

I think it’s a good change but I wish they made it so you could have more than one. Having the ability to get multiple heroic inspiration would discourage hoarding

[sonic aspen]

How does repelling blast work

[rough basalt]

I think it'd make hoarding worse tbh

[valid geyser]

It really wouldn’t.

[keen kestrel]

If eldritch blast hits, the creature gets pushed back

No saving throw required

[valid geyser]

At least if the GM gives it regularly, you would be able to spend it more freely

[sonic aspen]

Any direction 10 feey away from you or only horizontaly

[keen kestrel]

Depends on your dm tbh

[rough basalt]

Idk people don't remember they have inspiration that much, and some dms don't remember to give it out

[sonic aspen]

How is it written

[keen kestrel]

I’d say horizontally, but ya know

[valid geyser]

And so I think if GMs gave it more, players would spend it more, and a GM would be able to give it more if you could hold more than one

[severe rampart]

If you attack them from below or above where do they move

[sonic aspen]

Does it say horizontaly

[rough basalt]

I played a system where the whole group shares inspiration and gets like 6 per session and people wouldn't use it

[keen kestrel]

It says push a creature away from you 10 feet in a straight line

[potent vector]

Away. Only up if you're directly underneath them

[severe rampart]

No one wants to be that guy

[keen kestrel]

So unless you’re under them, it’s hard to argue you can knock them into the air

[rough basalt]

Ig I never run into this situation cause both sides forget too much

[worn lagoon]

I rolled RIDICULOUSLY high on rolled stats for this curse of strahd I just joined, yippee!!

[potent vector]

If I was Wild magic Sorcerer I'd 100% be that guy

[rough basalt]

Also with ways players can generate inspiration now, there'd need to be a Cap so players couldn't hoard a billion inspiration and force stuff through

[worn lagoon]

9str/18dex/14con/14int/11wis/18chr sorcerer go brrrr

[severe rampart]

Then the DM tells you to reroll

[woven flint]

I'd be that guy and encourage my allies to use inspiration because it's not selfish to want to succeed to help the party

[sonic aspen]

Cant i just say since diagonal and horizontal dame distance rules as written i can send them "in a straigth line" up or diagonally

[worn lagoon]

Nah this dm is chill thankfully

[potent vector]

@sonic aspen if you wanted to do this, the best way would be Delver's claw burrow underneath and then juggle them before moving out the way when they take fall damage

[worn lagoon]

I rolled live in the server

[severe rampart]

All my homies dump strength

[keen kestrel]

At best you can argue slightly into the air, but if we’re talking Pythagorean theorem it’s just easier to stick to the ground

[worn lagoon]

My daggers deal longsword damage at this point I'm fine

[severe rampart]

Who needs strength when you have Dex

[sonic aspen]

Why is this

[valid geyser]

I think that the few feats that allow generation are kind of a bandaid fix. I’d kind of prefer if the phb changed how inspiration worked in general so it’d have remained as a meta GM reward
And for all we know the forgotten realms feats could be outliers and we won’t get inspiration generation more than what we have

[worn lagoon]

17 base armor class goated

[keen kestrel]

What subclass (also good luck, CoS is difficult at the best of times)

[rough basalt]

Probably will get more

It makes sense that adventurers can inspire each other

[severe rampart]

I've been hearing a lot about Curse of Strahd

[worn lagoon]

Draconic! 2014 though, would've been even higher ac with 24

[sonic aspen]

I dont play 2024 idk what delvers claw is but sounds interesting, thx anyways

[potent vector]

Not 2024e. Very rare magic item

[sonic aspen]

Hmmm so cool, il look into it

[keen kestrel]

Not to do a bunch of math, but trying to argue where a straight line starts when talking about angles would be annoying, I’d stick to the ground

[stoic haven]

Fighting style and weapon kinda go hand in hand

[rough basalt]

I think a cap of 3 like pathfinder would be fine if you could only reroll d20s

But it wouldn't solve the hoarding problem

[sonic aspen]

Mister diagonal and vertical/horizontal are the same distance in dnd5e

[keen kestrel]

Should convince your dm to let you play a 2024 (he def won’t if you have 18 dex and cha though)

[rough basalt]

RPG players can't stop hoarding, it's in their dna

[keen kestrel]

Yes, but then it’s semantics and I like keeping things simple lol

[glass mica]

I’m finally back, was muted for 10 minutes

[valid geyser]

I think pathfinder very much does prevebtbhoarding

[sonic aspen]

Ig but its just the rulles

[glass mica]

So no one has listened to it?

[rough basalt]

Different playerbase tho

[valid geyser]

I think also the reason why Pathfinders Meta currency works, is because it’s gone at the end of a session. It’s use it or lose it.

[empty thicket]

Kinda, but you get my point with all that.

[worn lagoon]

3 level bladesinger dip to add +2 from int... nah.

[rough basalt]

Ye that's one solution

Not a golden ticket tho

[valid geyser]

When I got to play, Pathfinder, my GM gave out hero points every hour to a random player. That worked very well.

[keen kestrel]

I guess it’d only be one more ac tbf, but ya know

I much prefer the new draconic sorcerer, but that’s just me

[rough basalt]

Ye i think 5e players would be overwhelmed by that much inspiration handed out.

[worn lagoon]

I also prefer it, but this means I have old twinned spell so not everything is so bad

[stoic haven]

Monks: subclass, story, fighting style (not mechanically in this term, but specialization), and mainly their journey

[valid geyser]

How so?

[glass mica]

Ping

[rough basalt]

I had a game with someone running the musician feat and people still never used their inspirations cause they forgot they had them or "its too much to remember we have that"

[stoic haven]

But I do understand the inherent difficulty of deviating from the base monk flavor and monastery

[keen kestrel]

I’d make the argument that after level 5 twinned spell is not that great on a blaster

[valid geyser]

It’s just a reroll. It doesn’t guarantee anything. And players like re-rolls if they’re given them often.

[keen kestrel]

Can’t twin a fireball or wall of fire after all

[stoic haven]

Hm?

[valid geyser]

And again, I think it’s because the mechanics encourage hoarding the points. If the game encouraged giving them and encourage spending them, people would remember to use them more.

[worn lagoon]

Double hold monster is not bad

[stoic haven]

Oh XD

[valid geyser]

I don’t think it’s the players fault. The mechanics just make them forgettable and almost like an optional rule.

[rough basalt]

I'd say it's definitely at least partially the players fault.

[keen kestrel]

Yeah, but you’re not gonna do that very often in CoS, considering the things you’ll be fighting at that point

[rough basalt]

If you have someone who can generate inspiration on short/long rest for everyone you may as well use it.

[empty thicket]

Yep. That too....

[rough basalt]

Some people just won't use stuff like that even if it's handed out every turn.

Like I saw a champion fighter never use his roundly inspiration despite missing at least once a round.

[stoic haven]

I really deviated in my sailor monk, as I have not seen an actual serious sailor, ever

[potent vector]

These CANNOT be real players 😭

[rough basalt]

Nah its pretty normal for 5e players

[empty thicket]

Welp, you can always like, "yeah, my character was this until he started doing the search in self illumination and became a monk"

[rough basalt]

Hell tabletop players in general

[empty thicket]

And i guess that can kinda work out, meditate in the meantime or smt like that

[rough basalt]

5e players just have the biggest playerbase so they get the brunt of the "we don't read" evidence

Making it go away at the end of session would be the best way to handle removing the cap

[empty thicket]

It happen, we cant deny taht sometimes we forgot stuff

and more if we are in more than one campaign, too much info

[rough basalt]

Tho that change wouldn't be without friction

[empty thicket]

Still wont save the players that at least they should read 1 minute bout their features and stuff in the character.

[potent vector]

Feels like talking to Gacha players lmfao

[empty thicket]

If not, judas cradle.

[rough basalt]

A lot will just rely on the dm to remember for them

I forget I have inspiration sometimes, but since they've become generative by players I've started remembering more.

[worn lagoon]

I'm going in bliiiiind

[rough basalt]

Cause when it's strictly in the DMs hands it does encourage hoarding I will agree with that

Due to DMs forgetting inspiration exists, or they won't hand them out enough.

[valid geyser]

I kinda disagree. If it’s strictly a DM meta currency, it can be something that becomes less hoarded

It just needs the mechanics to not encourage that

[rough basalt]

Mechanics that'll likely be forgotten

[valid geyser]

If the game encourages GMs to give them often and not just when it’s a really special moment it’d be more used

[rough basalt]

Like the reason I believe they put it in players hands partially is cause a lot of DMs would forget or wouldn't give them out.

[crimson gulch]

I give out inspiration to the table 3 times on average per session

[rough basalt]

And I've seen plenty of dms just flat out never give them out.

[keen kestrel]

Good luck, I’m in two separate ones right now

[crimson gulch]

Folks love it

[rough basalt]

Most of the time it's cause they didn't remember it existed but a few times was just refusal.

[empty thicket]

i try to alway save mines for dodging or more stuff like that, important "plot" moments too

[valid geyser]

And I think it’s the fault of the game for not telling GMs they should very often

[empty thicket]

or give it to my allies too

[rough basalt]

They'd need to make it pretty invasive then

Like every page in a DM book "give out inspiration"

[valid geyser]

That feels kind of hyperbolic

I feel like this is a recursive problem where the mechanics don’t do enough to encourage giving them out and it causes DMs to not give it out and players not to spend it so it repeats

[rough basalt]

And I think that even if the mechanics did people wouldn't remember anyways and there's enough evidence in the community that people wouldn't

[worn lagoon]

Oooo

[rough basalt]

It'd be good for those who do, but there'd still need to be some limits

[valid geyser]

Well I suppose it should be treated like the 6-8 encounter day thing

[worn lagoon]

That was a weird typo

[severe rampart]

Do you not get spoiled at some stuff?

[keen kestrel]

Im playing a cleric with a lot of ritual spells in one, and a hexblade in the other

[worn lagoon]

I am so tempted to waste that second 18 on intelligence

[worn lagoon]

Both are curse of strahd?

[rough basalt]

Long as there's the acknowledgement that making it a daily thing wouldn't be a perfect fix

[keen kestrel]

Eh, my dms are altering details to make things different (similar groups so it’s not much of an issue)

[rough basalt]

Hell some DMs might just ignore it like a lot of daily mechanics.

[keen kestrel]

My dm in one is playing as a pc in the other one which makes it funnier

[valid geyser]

I mean this is just anecdotes but it seemed like urizt’s message made it clear that giving out inspiration a lot made players use it more

[worn lagoon]

Echo, for our next session, practice your opera singing or die.

[keen kestrel]

Yes

[rough basalt]

Course that's just Urizts players

[delicate locust]

Is there a dnd class that can play music

[rough basalt]

But I acknowledge that it's hard to really define cause yeah a lot of people do remember their sheets and what's on them, but alot don't.

[worn lagoon]

That's all of them

[scarlet marsh]

Bard

[keen kestrel]

The bard is kind of low hanging fruit but yes

[keen bobcat]

Hola hay algún español?

[delicate locust]

No I don’t like that sorry

[empty thicket]

si, pero hablamos ingles aca, Yes but we speak english here

[worn lagoon]

As I said, that's all of them. Everyone.

[delicate locust]

Nah not my thing

[valid geyser]

I don’t think I really get your perspective
Like yeah, new players aren’t gonna remember everything but it seems inspiration is an issue even for competent players and GMs because the game isn’t encouraging the use of it.

[scarlet marsh]

Legally you have to

[worn lagoon]

Can't you learn an instrument from the skilled feat? I don't remember

[rough basalt]

And personally I think that encouraging it more won't change that as much as you believe it would

[keen kestrel]

Then take the musician feat

[delicate locust]

Why would I want to do that?

[delicate locust]

No I don’t want to

[worn lagoon]

I told you to. Now you want to. :)

[delicate locust]

Ohhh okay yeah sure

[keen kestrel]

Then you don’t want to play an instrument? I’m confused

[worn lagoon]

Success!

[delicate locust]

I just said I wanted to? Can you read?

Nah that was mean sowwy

[lean wigeon]

i've been considering changing the way inspiration works if i were to run 5e

[timid current]

hey what's everone's favorite wizard subclas

[keen kestrel]

Then you’ve got two options to be good at instruments, which is the two listed lol

[worn lagoon]

Bladesinger

[delicate locust]

Divination!!!

[worn lagoon]

I'm a red mage at heart

[keen kestrel]

Yall really gotta rage bait Dave

[delicate locust]

What’s your favourite dungeon

Or dragon perhaps?

[worn lagoon]

Bahamut tbh

[delicate locust]

Except from that one

[keen kestrel]

I dislike wizard, so I’ll say war magic

[worn lagoon]

Midgardsormr

[lean wigeon]

are u a xiv player

[delicate locust]

What about spells

[worn lagoon]

Unfortunately

[rough basalt]

Like changing it to uncapped will lead to more hoarding to try and force stuff through unless you make it so you can only use one inspiration per roll

[lean wigeon]

cool

[delicate locust]

I don’t know what means, stop asking me weird questions please

[keen kestrel]

Divine smite

[delicate locust]

Ohhh got to love a good smite, nothing more satisfying (other than ritual casting spells)

[rough basalt]

Making it every encounter, there will be learning pains, and encounters will be a bit longer

[keen kestrel]

Now, if we’re talking through different levels, it’s… divine smite upcasted obviously

Nothing else compares

[delicate locust]

Obviously

[rough basalt]

Making them disappear at the end of session is pretty much the only solution I think would work well to prevent hoarding by just removing the hoard

[valid geyser]

I dont agree to that. If you have one reroll you’ll be likely to use it on a life or death scenario. If you have a bunch, you can spend it more frivolously

[delicate locust]

What about rope trick?

[rough basalt]

Sure if you remember you have it

[valid geyser]

If you get a bunch of inspiration you’ll remember you have it

[rough basalt]

Not necessarily.

[delicate locust]

RAW can you only either have inspiration or not have it, you technically can’t stack it and that usually helps to stop hoarding

[keen kestrel]

Idk, I like ceremony quite a bit

[valid geyser]

If you don’t have a lot of arrows you’re not gonna shoot your bow that often

[rough basalt]

Where the argument is at is
There shouldn't be a cap, but a lot of players won't stop hoarding or remember even if there wasn't.

[rough basalt]

A lot of dms ignore ammo

To the point most people will tell new players to ignore it so a lot of people in the community probably don't even acknowledge ammo

[worn lagoon]

Movie arrows

[delicate locust]

There definitely should be a cap, I think inspiration should be incredibly rare in the first place so it shouldn’t be an issue, I think once a session is even too much

[worn lagoon]

Like movie catridges that never need refills, but for bows and crossbows

[empty thicket]

Evokator, being able to safely cast whatever i want without risking my allies save me some hassle

[valid geyser]

I feel like that kinda proves my point

[worn lagoon]

I would purposefully want to fireball my bards

[valid geyser]

If hypothetically you had infinite rerolls you’d reroll every roll

[worn lagoon]

All three of them at once, preferably

[potent vector]

Okay, I disagree with this simply because then players will remember never use it, therefore devaluing roleplay interactions with the rest of the game

[valid geyser]

I’m not arguing for that but still

[rough basalt]

I thought you were arguing for that

[valid geyser]

Not infinite inspiration, but getting a steady amount of it

[delicate locust]

If your players need inspiration just to role play then maybe you shouldn’t me doing role play lol, they can value it without some out of game reward

[rough basalt]

But if it does take having infinite rerolls to get people to remember they can reroll then God i don't wanna see that game

[empty thicket]

mine asked us if we wanted to track ammo or just go for "we have inifnite ammo"
i used the argument that if we track ammo mean we can have access to magic ammo or variations, he said yes and we all voted track ammo.
(Btw, they are sorc, artificer and warlock so i doubt they use too much guns honestyl)

[potent vector]

This is the right mindset imo

[delicate locust]

You can give other rewards in the game that aren’t inspiration

[rough basalt]

Personally I like inspiration as it is

[worn lagoon]

Like concussions!

[valid geyser]

Well it wouldn’t take infinite of them

[worn lagoon]

This is your sign to throw rocks at your player characters.

[rough basalt]

I think it could definitely take infinite for some people

[valid geyser]

Weren’t you just complaining that people didn’t use it enough?

[delicate locust]

Why characters, why not just players, it’s immersive

[potent vector]

Not need it to roleplay, but makes it so it interacts with other parts of the story so that it feels like your character enjoys existing

[worn lagoon]

TRUEEE...

[delicate locust]

What, inspiration?

[rough basalt]

Yeah, but I don't think infinite rerolls is the answer

[valid geyser]

I feel like you’re being intentionally obtuse

[meager fractal]

What’s a ttrpg belief people hold mostly because they’ve never questioned it?

[rough basalt]

Like "oh you breathed an extra round here's an inspiration" just makes it boring to me.

[valid geyser]

And I’m not arguing for that

[lean wigeon]

there's many but personally for me it's the idea that GM holds all authorial control over a story

[valid geyser]

I’m arguing like, at least three times a session. That’s gonna be enough to get any competent player to realize “oh yeah I’m just gonna keep getting inspiration I can use this whenever I really feel”

[potent vector]

Vro, no one said it should be easy to get, just not be smth rare like take multiple sessions to show up

[valid geyser]

I feel like you’re underestimating the competence of the average d&d player and assuming they’re the d&d player that doesn’t know a d12 from a d20

[rough basalt]

I'm pretty sure that is the average player, cause the average player is just someone who shows up, rolls dice and waits till next time.

Like I think this server is the minority

[woven flint]

I love doing some damn good rp for inspiration, ask Sora about when he killed my Cavalier Fighters horse

[glass granite]

Gasp

[rough basalt]

Tbh I'm at fault for inspiration in my games cause that one group never using theirs has made me forget to hand it out, but Tokii reminded me indirectly.

[delicate locust]

I disagree, as soon as you set yourself some kind of mental quota it feels meaningless, they get it in extraordinary interesting moments otherwise it loses meaning, give them a reward in game or idk maybe your players yearn for XP lol, if you do XP games then give it for role play and combat

[glass mica]

Idk, it said please ping

[valid geyser]

You can give it at a schedule and give extra for good moments

Also inspiration mechanically isn’t crazy. It’s advantage, it’s really not a big deal mechanically

[woven flint]

Cause I'm swag

[rough basalt]

It's a reroll in '24

On any roll

[delicate locust]

Real question, can rogues sneak attack using inspiration?

[rough basalt]

Not just d20s

[valid geyser]

And rerolls guarantee nothing. You can still fail

I don’t think an increased amount will shift the balance of the game meaningfully

[rough basalt]

Nah what I mean is you can reroll your sneak attack damage roll

[delicate locust]

If you can reroll CONSISTENTLY and rely on having rerolls available, then why make them roll dice even if it isn’t that final, I think the dice tell a story and mistakes should bet of the story and something that is inevitable

[rough basalt]

Sure you can roll worse still, but new inspiration is better

And depending on the amount of rerolls it can guarantee

[potent vector]

But a mental blockade devalues roleplay. XP is also not always an option, since milestone is so common

[valid geyser]

2-3 rxtra rerolls a session won’t change much, even still rerolls guarantee nothing

[rough basalt]

My first game everyone took Lucky, with a Div wizard, Chronurgy Sorc, and SB to reroll everything on both sides of the table, and I can't imagine how even worse that would've been if they got 3 to 6 inspiration rerolls per session

[potent vector]

Again you're overestimating how much Inspiration we give out. 3 times a session if we feel like it is NOT consistent rerolls

And not a hard quota, if we FEEL like it

[worn lagoon]

Was this table played by the damn fire emblem: awakening cast

[potent vector]

Like the roleplay was valuable or the moment was memory

[rough basalt]

Also players have ways to manipulate and reroll already so you have to account for that existing.

[empty thicket]

welp, if one want that much rerrolls, use lucky then

but i understand a dm giving rerrolls in key moments too, more if they are plot important

I would add a rule of 5 failures = 1 free check in my campaign, because ngl, if you got 5 failures in something you are okey, like 5 attacks or 5 checks in something.
I would give you that little kindness, a +5 or smt

[rough basalt]

Nah they wanted to ruin the game

Their intent was to drag every encounter down with constant rerolls till I got exhausted

[empty thicket]

Sometimes isnt the best day of someone and giving him that little gift would be nice

[rough basalt]

There's also the matter of how would the state mandated inspiration work

[valid geyser]

Ok but if I was the DM and wanted to see inspiration used I wouldn’t just give everyone the lucky feat for free

[rough basalt]

One per player, or random between players.

One at start of the session could easily be invalidated by other features inspiration not being used by the end of the session.

[valid geyser]

divided randomly I’d say. Skipping the player who last got it

[rough basalt]

That one I could agree with

[potent vector]

This sounds nice

[valid geyser]

And I’m still gonna assume the cap is no longer 1, so stuff like humans starting a long rest with inspiration wouldn’t conflict

[worn lagoon]

I actually think this is absolute cinema

[rough basalt]

It made me unable to dm for over a year

[timid current]

should probably talk to the players

[worn lagoon]

I'm quite starved for my players playing well

[rough basalt]

This was years ago and talking to them wasn't an option

[rough basalt]

It wasn't for playing well

It was my first time dming, so they wanted to make it as hard for me as possible.

[potent vector]

You should have made them fight someone with that one Clockwork sorcery feature that made rolls become a flat 10+ modifiers

Absolutely invalidate their builds

[rough basalt]

They constantly tried to derail the game despite me saying above table that itd be linear and kinda railroady at first, made fun of everything above table, knew I couldn't balance so they made sure I couldn't

[blazing ravine]

I'm sorry I know this is probably a real silly question but when it says cthonic tieflings look cadaverous what does that mean?

[worn lagoon]

Cadaverous, like corpse-like?

[rough basalt]

They look like corpses

[blazing ravine]

Oh my god cadaverous like cadaver. I did not make that connection. Thanks. That's actually pretty cool for a person to look almost dead

[rough basalt]

Final thing ill say about inspiration, maybe have separate options in the dmg

Earnedspiration (the 2014 kind)
Earnedspiration 2.0 (the 2024 kind)
State Mandatediration (everyone gets them every session and it keeps stacking)

[potent vector]

Iirc they did in 2014, with proficiency dice I think it also changed Inspiration become an extra die

[devout plume]

i high key wanna play a bard thats a trickster god turned mortal

like loki but girl

[rough basalt]

I thought so but I forgot

[potent vector]

I have a homebrew for you

[devout plume]

no need

[potent vector]

College of Whimsy lol

[devout plume]

bard's kit is already trickster god levels of funny

[blazing ravine]

So Loki?

[devout plume]

we dont talk about the horse 💀

[valid geyser]

I never assumed it kept stacking. I thought it was use it or lose it

[woven flint]

I know what you're talking about...
I see you there 👁

[glass granite]

Let’s not talk about the horse

[devout plume]

also bard got pyrotechnics

time to play a metalhead in a fantasy campaign

[rough basalt]

Alright so statemandatediration is stacks till end of session

[devout plume]

and flavor the lute to a magical electric guitar

[rough basalt]

I couldnt even imagine how to balance for that tbh

[valid geyser]

Sure, yeah

[rough basalt]

Yeah i think it'd be fine as an optional

if it was made mandatory i think we'd need some changes in other areas

[valid geyser]

How so?

I don’t think a single player getting like 2-3 guaranteed rerolls effects balance in any major way

[devout plume]

ok whos idea was it to give bard an earthquake by shouting and a thunderstorm by clapping?

a level 1 spell and a cantrip no less

what even is this balancing lol

[valid geyser]

It’s like, 2d8 damage. It’s not an earthquake

[devout plume]

meh its close enough

[rough basalt]

I think because of how players can get them already on top of how inspiration works now

[lean wigeon]

what did they change about inspiration in 2024

[stiff rock]

Thunder damage is closer to making someone's eardrums bleed than it is an earthquake if you mean thunderclap

[rough basalt]

you can reroll anything, instead of just d20 tests

[valid geyser]

There’s like a handful of niche sources that can give it out

[devout plume]

earth tremor and thunderclap

[valid geyser]

Also I don’t think rerolling damage makes it crazy

[devout plume]

thunderclap is hilarious

[rough basalt]

There's also the matter of how your bonus's can get to the point where missing/fail chances are low so several rerolls would be a guarantee success

[devout plume]

its basically just dropping the mic in clapping form

[rough basalt]

Tho ig you can always just make it so no roll works, which in cases I'm worried about would be more reasonable

[valid geyser]

If you spend three inspiration on one roll then it’s fine

And again, it still can fail

[rough basalt]

Well with a +15 against 20AC and probably advantage anyways, id probably give inspiration for that amount of low chance failures in a row

Cause at that point you just wanna miss and i wanna see if you can keep it going

[valid geyser]

Yeah sometimes you’re just lucky and sometimes you’re unlucky

[rough basalt]

and if people are getting 3 rerolls a session, they can add onto it with other stuff to make it so luck isnt really a contender

[valid geyser]

I mean you make more than three rolls over the course of a session

[rough basalt]

Well yeah youd stack it with human, take lucky, div wizard, have a halfling in the party with bountiful luck, musician feats, a cleric for PoH for the 10 min short rest for musician feat

[blissful dragon]

what feat lets you take a evocation spell im trying to find it but cant remember what it was called?

[valid geyser]

Well then you’ve decided to make a build that tries to get as many rerolls as you can, which is fine since you’ve invested into that

[rough basalt]

Have you ever had to dm for that kinda party?

There's so many rerolls your brain shorts out and you have to ask whether they're not rerolling

and that was without 2024 generation and '24 Lucky

[valid geyser]

I mean still that’s what, nine rerolls on one player? Not that crazy

[rough basalt]

oh im talking everyone

[valid geyser]

Well that’s a little much. I only assumed like one wizard

[rough basalt]

nah they had a total of 25 rerolls on enemies, 21-22 rerolls on themselves per LR and that was with 2014

[worn lagoon]

what the

[valid geyser]

I mean I was having a lot of fun as a human with the lucky feat but that’s overkill

[naive furnace]

Im still new on dnd, is a bard cool choice for beginners?

[rough basalt]

And god that wouldve been so much worse with 2024

it wouldve been less lucky rolls but musician feats, PoH to reset their inspirations without a full 1 hour time consumption

[lean wigeon]

spellcasting really isn't hard in 5e

[potent vector]

Tbh this just sounds like a lot of bad faith. I imagine it would feel just as bad if the entire party decided to all be rogues with enough Expertise coverage that everything is guaranteed to succeed.

Not rly an inspiration/reroll issue

[rough basalt]

True but that's something that's gotta be accounted for I think

Cause it's not a case of bad faith rulings or anything, the dm would be in the wrong for shutting down reroll comp.

[blissful dragon]

yeah that fair monday dm asked if i would avoid going full rogue since another player is already doing that cause it would throw balance off to much whitch was fair enough i suppose

[rough basalt]

Like I'd be terrified to see the 2024 reroll comp

[blissful dragon]

at the point where a full level rogue has reliable talent so it fair enough to request to pick something else

[valid geyser]

My thoughts too. I mean if someone wanted to maximize rerolls than they’d do it with or without a GM who gives them out more often

[potent vector]

Not particularly if it's making things unfun for them. The DM is supposed to have fun too, so if players are screwing with that and they let them know that, and they still continue that's just them being not very good people.

Asking players not to slog up combat isn't out of the question

[rough basalt]

True reroll comp isnt done really due to it being a meme to be scummy to dms

[hollow estuary]

Multiclassing into artificer for a one level dip to get armor and shields can get you a free 20 ac as a wizard at level 2 with no cost to your spell slots later down the line!

You dont even need war caster, you can have one wand in your hand and a shield in the other, + half plate and 14 dex = 20 ac!

[valid geyser]

I mean it’s also a scale. A halfling divination with the lucky feat is a pretty mild reroll based build

[rough basalt]

ye reroll comp is where you go mostly or all div wizards depending on the rules

Only use slots for silvery barbs

[hollow estuary]

Chronurgist has free silvery barbs twice a long rest.

[rough basalt]

ye chronurgy is another choice for reroll comp

[hollow estuary]

i like running artichron for like all the busted abilities of chronurgist and being fully armored at the same time. its kinda fun.

[potent vector]

Vro, that's nothing, you can have 27 AC by level 5 AND STILL ATTACK. Tortle Bladesinger.

[rough basalt]

it can also slog down combat almost as hard as a table of indecisive players

[hollow estuary]

Oh I was doing a level 2 build, if you wanna do a level 5 then game on!

[potent vector]

Are adding magic items?

[hollow estuary]

Not for now.

[glass granite]

Where are we getting 20?

I’m getting 19

[hollow estuary]

Wait u might be right, I made a mistake

[glass granite]

It’s 20 if you’re a warforged

[hollow estuary]

yeah19

anyway what im going for here.

Artificer turns a wizard into an unbeatable tank. The Artificer dip for wizards gives you so much, a Constitution saving throw, extremely useful cantrips, 18 AC (19 if you have good dex), This flips the wizard troupe on its head making you more tanky than even most melee builds in the game.

And it makes wizards able to heal. Cure wounds.

[glass granite]

Eh, idk about more tanky than most melee builds, but it does give you a fair bit of durability

I’d also like to note that half plate is quite expensive

I do like starting with artificers, granted, but an “unbeatable tank” feels a tad overzealous

[hollow estuary]

half plate is less then two times a commoners yearly sallary.

a average commoner makes like 400 gold a year.

[potent vector]

This opinion is prob dependant on DM styles. Some DMs might be rly scarce with GP payouts early on

[hollow estuary]

true true.

[glass granite]

Which is quite expensive

[hollow estuary]

depending on the kinda dm you got getting 750 gold is either really easy or requires like a side quest worth of setup.

[glass granite]

Getting 750 gold to yourself is quite difficult at level 2 imo

To split with the party? Sure.

But all that just for the artificer wizard? I don’t know if that’s common for a lot of tables

[hollow estuary]

depending on your table it might require some setup time

but once you got it you basically have 19 ac, same amount of spells, a free con save proficiency (No need to take resilient), you can destroy morale with chronal shift, do insane arcane abeyance combos, momentary stasis, heal, have guidance, and yeah.

[glass granite]

Half of that is just from being a chronurgy wizard

[hollow estuary]

yeah. artichron.

[glass granite]

One of the strongest subclasses in the game
Of course it’s gonna be strong

Artificer just makes it more durable

Again don’t get me wrong, I do really like artificrr dips

[hollow estuary]

Makes a great class better at little to no cost is what im getting at here pretty much

imma go cya.

[burnt valley]

Ah, artichron, the best multiclass in the game

[vagrant quartz]

i just talked no justu my way tru the entire dungeon

i befriended a bunch of skeletons helped them out with theyr troubles and got rewarded a bunch of loot

#wizardinggoals

[glad arch]

Wizard talking their way trough, impressive

[vagrant quartz]

and i didnt even charm anyone!

[glad arch]

Must have been a bard in a past life

[vagrant quartz]

just straight talking, and a presdigitation infused magic show for the skeletons

[vagrant quartz]

fey shenanigans

[remote wadi]

Think i found another reason to not get anywhere near fey

(In jest. They're just my second most playfully disliked species)

[strong wave]

I don't like to bring. Fey into my games because I do not understand them and as such don't know how to motivate them believably

Ohooo this fey just stole your names but whyyyyyy

Why would he want your name and that's just the tip of the feyberg

I also don't know how to picture them

[remote wadi]

Okay, hear me out

• Can't legally lie, but they trade in half truths and misleading language
• Are obsessed with contracts
• Required to follow the letter, but not spirit, of the law
• Are very skilled at exploiting loopholes
• Range from semi helpful to openly malevolent
• Main business is done in places called "courts"

[mild nymph]

Lawyers

[remote wadi]

Exactly

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah I entirely meant the latter

[reef copper]

Specificaly the soul only?

[remote wadi]

Part of me wants to say Operation Pheonix for the funny

[reef copper]

I thought they axed that program

[remote wadi]

They did, but funny reference

[astral torrent]

My DM made my bard try and get 5 party members to buy drinks, it was unclear and I ended up with a boyfriend.

<3

[woven flint]

Oop

My Dark Elf Moond Druid was a very depressed lad, he met an Owlin that worked as a Bard in a seaside town and they fell in love, his depression wasn't gone, but, whenever his life was in danger, he fought harder than he ever had just to get back home to his dearest.
Eventually, he became a Druid Deity and his lover is still a mortal, but he always makes time to see him

[empty thicket]

epic

Would like a classic story about an immortal falling in love with a mortal, some sort of Dracula from Castlevania but instead of getting the wife killed he would do all he can to find a way to make her live longer without making her a vampire

[hidden spindle]

Did they have a baby called Nessy? /j

[empty thicket]

na, they named their kid with literally the name of the father backwards, weird tradition ngl, but i guess alucard is good fitting
Good thing the father wasnt some sort of Jhonson//nosnohj
But their grandkid would be dracula again if they follow the tradition

you can try in #looking-for-players and you might have better luck.

make a post there, wait and you will fish many players

[icy nest]

Oop fair

[loud tendon]

please note we don't allow group formation or solicitation in any of our channels outside the LF spaces. Check out #find-a-game for instructions on using those spaces 🙂

[fossil hollow]

Does anyone remember where that adventure about fighting polymorphed creatures comes from? I know its from the 2024 books, and i cant remember if its in FR

[willow cipher]

the tabaxi in our party just ate a chicken we had to save 😭

[fossil hollow]

nevermind, found it

[swift vale]

when taking the dash action do you have to use your entire dash movement?

[slim root]

People is it bad that I have never played a serious character before

[hot marlin]

Nope. You can use just five feet if you like. You can even take the dash action and stay where you are if you want

[harsh hinge]

Only if causes problems at the table.

[slim root]

Never has 😁

[harsh hinge]

Then you're probably fine. (That's not to say it couldn't eventually, so be mindful.)

[swift vale]

thank you goat 🥹

[barren kraken]

Anyone good at voice acting for a game?

[idle oar]

Is this in any way related to D&D? If so you can solicit for D&D voice actors in #dnd-advertisements

[barren kraken]

no

A video game

[eager marsh]

Not the place to ask around for that then

[idle oar]

Then this is not the server for it

[barren kraken]

Saying that end is literally a roleplaying game kinda is

[idle oar]

We are not a video game server nor are we a voice actor server

We are the official D&D Discord server run by Wizards of the Coast and the focus is discussing D&D

It's not a generic RPG server

[wanton sorrel]

I think after i get my 3 first edition D&D core books and play it rather if it's solo or a group. I might head to 2nd edition

[lean wigeon]

r u like trying to play them in order or smth

[boreal patio]

I love playing a wizard (my poor dumb ass was front and center and got downed in one round bc I have 13 HP)

[jaunty wyvern]

Con is the least important stat if you never get hit

Run 8 con trust me bro

[hidden spindle]

No you do not.

[glass granite]

A newbie is gonna see that and bring a 6 con sorcerer to their next game and it’s gonna be your fault /lh

[umbral girder]

Here is an interesting question. While people talk about the exploration rules in the DMG, how many of yall read the Exploration rules in the PHB?

[glass granite]

I read neither!

[jaunty wyvern]

My draconic blood burns through my veins, granting me the strength of a dragon and a serious case of asthma

I like reading and read the books

I actually just finished reading the entire heroes of faerun book today

[mortal quartz]

I’m looking to see if anyone would willing to DM a nightmare on elm street based campaign I have made up cause I really want to be a player not the DM

[north hawk]

Not me. Definitely not my cup of tea.

[loud tendon]

#looking-for-dm - directions on how you post in these channels is in #find-a-game . Please note that games need to be playable using the classes/species available from places like the Basic Rules/PHB in order to be advertised here and considered D&D

[blissful ibex]

Con is the best stat to throw the odd 12 or 13 onto with standard array

[wanton sorrel]

huh i wonder if nightmare on elm street a homebrew D&D

[wanton sorrel]

is that a homebrew campaign?

[jaunty wyvern]

The eternal struggle 😔

[wanton sorrel]

sighs.... IDK still having a hard time to choose which i should go to.... D&D 5e 2014 or D&D 5e 2024

[vagrant quartz]

i need some help over here, me and my dm are debating on how conscious my pc (eladrin) is during his sleep trances, can somebody help me out?

should i go to rules channel or is it appropriate to ask here?

[eager marsh]

2024 rules are better in 95% of all situations so that shoulnd't be a tough choice really

[humble cairn]

2024 is just plain better, they had ten years to fix their stuff.

[wanton sorrel]

I'll probably buy them on D&Dbeyond

[mortal tinsel]

Does the Bladesinger and Pact of Blade Warlock overlap too many pts to be a good multi-class?

[hidden spindle]

There should be free Rules available for both '14 & '24

[fossil hollow]

Firstly, thats MAD

(multiple ability dependant)

But in 2014, Hexsinger is decent for. One niche build

[wanton sorrel]

i like to keep the books i love pysical copies

[eager marsh]

theres also not even any mechanical incentive. 2024 bladesinger makes your weapon attacks use your int alrady while bladesinging now

[mortal tinsel]

It opens bladesinging to apply int to concentration or ac instead

[eager marsh]

Bladesinger does all of that already

[fossil hollow]

im not even sure what PotB is even there for

[mortal tinsel]

Sure,it’s dependent on int/chr… which makes it harder. And bard/lock probably just better all around

[fossil hollow]

Youre already using INT for:

• Attacking/Damage
• AC bonus
• CONC bonus

[eager marsh]

Bladesinger already adds Int to all of that

[hidden spindle]

Conjuring a weapon empty-handed

[fossil hollow]

"leaving apply INT to CONC or AC instead" is just. Redundant

when it already applies INT to your weapon attacks too

[mortal tinsel]

Guess bladesong is ALL not one of the 3

[fossil hollow]

yes. Its all.

[eager marsh]

Yes. That's what it says

[fossil hollow]

it would be stupid of WoTC to make it choose one

[eager marsh]

they've made dumb choices before

[somber jackal]

Hello! I was wondering if anybody could help me get the concepts of the game, and maybe answer some of my questions? I’m sorry i’m kinda of new but i love the concept of the game! Thank you!

[fossil hollow]

But to do that to their obviously favorite class?

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-newcomers

[somber jackal]

Thank you @fossil hollow

[mortal tinsel]

Which class is the favored?

[fossil hollow]

Wizard. Its called Wizards of the Coast for a reason

(this is mostly a meme)

[eager marsh]

only kinda. Wizards are famously very good and it took 10 years for sorcerer to not be awful in comparison

[wanton sorrel]

I wonder... do people like the D&D pyscial stuff like books.... or the pdf files and scroll for stuff? What is easier?

[eager marsh]

books are easier for in person games, and online files are often better for online games thanks to control F

[wanton sorrel]

Control f? I guess i'll have to figure that out soon.

[empty thicket]

online its more accessible in lots of ways, but cant compare it to irl at all.
Irl you have the whole interaction face to face, can use lots of expressions, movements, actions and more
Eating snacks with each other, its enjoyable in a better way for me.

But its understandable that isnt comparative to do it online where you use tokens, digital maps, etc. etc.
Even tho, you could use a TV connected to Owlbear for digital maps and even DnD beyond irl instead of papers

[eager marsh]

on a computer pressing the control key and the F key lets you search something up and instantly scroll to the next/previous insnance that word appears in the page/document

[wanton sorrel]

oh ok

[hidden spindle]

Nothing beats in person.

Online has perks too. Especially the free rules.

[signal estuary]

Is there a dnd character art channel?

[hushed mason]

Maybe #dnd-arts-and-crafts ?

[empty thicket]

true, beating the rogue that stole money from the orphanage you just gave a donation is the best

[bronze wave]

Acting like the party rogue isnt the one doing it half the time

[wise swan]

Been playing a year. Started as a rogue and now i am wizarding. Tis like a soap opera and I love it.

[empty thicket]

Always

[jagged grove]

Hello!!

[meager fractal]

Hi

[thick pecan]

Hi everyone. I’m looking for a group to play DnD with. What’s the best channel to use to find a group?

[pliant crow]

i just came to a realization @w@
I've been playing dnd tabletop since 2014, using ye old 3.5e in a convention table
i've been playing dnd video games before that.

but for all the times i've been playing pnp dnd... i just now realized i've... never fought a dragon or a beholder before... @w@

[river frost]

Hey, so I've recently left two dnd groups I was in due to complications I was having in them, and I was wondering if people had any advice on finding groups to play with (preferably in person). I've only ever played dnd irl, so I don't know how well I'd adjust to playing online

[pliant crow]

augh, now i have a new very major goal TTwTT

[late oracle]

#looking-for-players

or any of the other "looking for" channels

[uncut sluice]

I need help with writing a missing father for my rogue

i have a half orc rogue who's father orc is missing. So far i have played the other as sad, but with good memories of her husband. His disappearance was sudden and mysterious. I don't know how to develop him though. i don't know what motivation to give him for leaving or what his character will be once he meets with his son. amy ideas?

The only one i have is me trying to merge another thing that my player wants with this. My player fell in love with the idea of meeting some kind of a god after he watched vox machina. So i am trying to merge both ideas into one, by making the father a warlock but then i hit another motivation roadblock. What does the patron wants? What is it's motivation and why does that require the father to leave?

As for the player meeting the god i have planned to make that character take 1 level of warlock when he meets his dad and for some reason the patron takes the rogue as it's warlock forcibly or after striking a deal of some sort. I do think that my player will like it

[tacit pike]

We are ALL pondering that orb rn

[still plover]

Just generally finding an online group to play with, what you'll need to play online or something else?

Could you tell us about the prior complications or are they not relevant?

[fiery perch]

Wizards are better than sorcerers

[bronze wave]

Sky is blue statement

Best class is in the game is better then the 2nd/3rd

[small verge]

Hi

[dense idol]

Mechanically yeah, Sorcerers will always be cooler tho

[hot marlin]

I feel like the temperature of a character depends on their species and health rather than on their class

[jovial shadow]

What makes Sorcerers cooler? @dense idol

[hot marlin]

Harsh winters? Alcohol, anorexia and low blood sugar can also cause hypothermia.

[still plover]

Which is funny really, as a Charisma casting class you'd think they'd always be able to talk their way into a warming meal by a blazing hearth.

[hot marlin]

Though I'm not sure why this would be specific to sorcerers

Uh. Is heat metal on the sorcerer's spell list?

[still plover]

It's the metamagic. Everyone else is playing by the same spellbook: wizards, clerics, even warlocks.

Sorcerers get to dynamically remix their spells. Cast without components? It's there. Touch spell at range? Reach out. Twin spell? Two for one special!

[hot marlin]

It's not. Might be why they're cool?

[thorn phoenix]

Looking for a zombie dice set. Need minimum 2 d6. Would prefer resin and a way to carry them (bag/box) themed and included. Looking for under $50 USD. Any recommendations please

Or maybe a cool looking leather dice bag that doubles as a dice rolling tray?

[fiery perch]

The prepared vs known thing is the single thing that makes wizards better

[pseudo pulsar]

yall how does the old monster slayer subclass fare with the 2024 ranger?

[worn lagoon]

Twinned spell's been shot down, now it's got a misleading name

It's +1 target to fewer spells (specifically those that can be upcasted for an additional target)

[still plover]

Still more shots for the slot.

More bang for your buck. More wiz for your - okay, I'll stop now.

[hearty cypress]

have you looked in etsy

[hollow lance]

the fact that summoner wizard isn't even top 2 summoning subclasses causes me so much pain

[hearty cypress]

looked up on etsy i already see a zombie dice set vampire dice set etc

not sure if its the same one you're exactly looking for but u should keysearch it urself

the zombie apocalypse one is 25 usd, prob taxed with shipping

[thorn phoenix]

Yeah, for the most part the only thing I’m finding are skull dice. And there’s one set that’s nice but it’s $45 for 10 D6 and I don’t need 10 D6. It’s for a character based off Olivia “liv” Moore from iZombie.

The zombie apocalypse is one I’m leaning towards I’m just concerned about legibility with that one

[hearty cypress]

it looks like it has nice reviews

more about the sller is they have more than 100k sales

and 11 years on etsy if i look in their pfp

[maiden idol]

zdravím 🙂

[hearty cypress]

u ca n also check photos that ppl have left review on

[thorn phoenix]

I’ll mainly be using d6. The rest of the dice are quite nice but it’s the d6 I’m concerned about

[hearty cypress]

returns and exchanges are accepted in their page

even if it does come out wonky u can always do a return

[thorn phoenix]

Thanks we’re creating characters for a Monster of the week game. Im basing the monstrous off of Liv. I’m hoping to get a nice leather pouch that holds dice and can double as a rolling tray so that way I can travel light since there will be twice as many players for this than what I’m used to.

[torpid ocean]

is Ilsensine [the mind flayer patron diety] considered an evil god?

[hearty cypress]

thats rlly awesome, i wish the best endeavours and luck with what ur doing 🫀

[knotty pasture]

Most likely Lawful Evil yea

[still plover]

Deity of a species who invade, subjugate and oh yes, consume the brains of intelligent creatures?

Signs point to yes.

[zenith pivot]

does anyone know the reason behind the (bg3 spoilers) || multiple canonically non-evil / good illithid in that game || ?

[glass granite]

Try #baldurs-gate-3-spoilers

[zenith pivot]

ah ta

[zenith pivot]

also how do I get an opalescent username?

[glass granite]

You gotta have both the DM and player role

[zenith pivot]

wait, but, I do?

[still plover]

You don't need it, Smitherino. Don't be tempted by vanity!

[zenith pivot]

my precious

[glass granite]

Like, “both”. You have to select the “both” option

[zenith pivot]

:o

[charred panther]

Did anyone play at a table with 8 players total + DM, or more?
How was your experience (as a player or as a DM, it doesn't matter)?
Was it worth it?

[glass granite]

I was the DM!

And, well, I’d only do it if you’re friends

I couldn’t imagine doing it with strangers

Even then, with friends, not great.

Wouldn’t recommend

[hot reef]

I played in a game that had two DMs running separate parties in the same room, playing in the same adventure with a total player count of 9

[icy plaza]

It makes it really crowded when people want to do their own thing and it also gets very hard to determine CR

[charred panther]

As of now I'm trying to understand, am I having awful experience because of amount of players or because of some specific player behavior of some of them

I'd never agree to such a number, but life had corrections...

[glass granite]

Combat was difficult, but for me it was less balancing and more that it took forever.

And sharing the spotlight was probably the hardest part for me

[charred panther]

Yes! Forever! And it's boring, cause if it was difficult then it would take even forever-er...

[glass granite]

I remember I compensated for it by adding story into the combat itself for major encounters, but that combat took 2 hours lol

[charred panther]

So that's one of the possible reasons why the fights are too easy...

[glass granite]

Oh absolutely

[jovial badger]

opinions on twilight cleric

[glass granite]

For one, you can’t throw a single enemy at the party anymore.

[glass granite]

Quite strong

Also makes combat a bit more difficult to add stakes to

[charred panther]

I don't remember hating control spells this much before this experience. Wait for turn of 7 other people just to fail a save and wait an additional turn of 7 people feels like a form of torture

[glass granite]

I assume you’re not having fun?

Oh and yeah

I never do stuns anymore

[charred panther]

No, I asked in the first place to get experience of others to know, is it a me-problem or a general problem

Sounds more like general one

[hot gate]

"You don't get to play the game" effects are some of the worst feel bad moments, yeah.

[glass granite]

I seldomly used them before, but never with this many players

[hot gate]

Oh yeah, if we're having 7 other people at the table, I consider that a separate albeit related problem. Spotlight sharing is much harder with that many.

[charred panther]

There was a situation in which one of PCs was kidnapped (as a fun plot point while the player was away for one game), but when he returned he sat and done nothing for an hour and a half cause first there was negotiations with him still paralyzed, and then he was stunned for two turns right at the start of a fight

After that I lost any taste for stun affects even tho it wasn't me

[glass granite]

I don’t do that sort of thing personally

For the reason you just outlined

[charred panther]

I imagine it is difficult to design a fun and difficult encounter without such effects

[stiff rock]

as a medium for storytelling, d&d isn't amazing for stuff that involves extensive periods of players not really doing anything. that's why being downed sucks so much because literally all you can do is roll death saves

either everyone's stunned/knocked out and it's more of a narrated cutscene, or one person is stunned and they just get to sit and watch everyone else have fun

[charred panther]

Is this problem even avoidable or is it just... inevitable evil?

[stiff rock]

definitely solvable with homebrew or good DMing but fundamentally it's just one of the issues with the genre. it's never gonna be exciting to sit there and do nothing while everyone else is having fun

[hidden spindle]

This is why we carry Lesser Restoration~

[hidden spindle]

Maybe not for Stunned. But Stunned ('24), you can still move.

[warm summit]

I don't think it's a "DND" problem so much as a 5e problem because combats drag so much. In an edition with quicker combat or some modifications that make combat quicker it's less grueling

[hushed crescent]

How do I report a fishing bot in this server ?

[warm summit]

Probably moderator support channel

[mortal quartz]

Yes it a homebrew i almost have complete to go from level 1-20

[rough basalt]

I love status effects, combat would be too boring if you could just stand still and roll attacks the whole time.

[mortal quartz]

yes you can use any DND race and class you just get special powers depending what class you pick when you enter the Dream World

[old folio]

Chat, would a Dragonborn inspired by a Chinese dragon be realistic?

[rough basalt]

Realistic isn't really the right word

But yeah Dragonborn with Eastern style dragon looks exist

[old folio]

English isn't my first language and words are hard xD

[rough basalt]

All good, but yeah, the new Players Handbook Monk art even has an Eastern style dragonborn

And a bit of the new dragon art in general is very Eastern inspired

Particularly Gold Dragons

[reef tundra]

I love gold dragons

[old folio]

I'm working on making a Dragonborn rogue on D&D beyond and I really like the look of Chinese dragons

[reef tundra]

-# I promise it's not because I was raised around the image of eastern dragons

[old folio]

I really like the idea of a rogue that relies more on intimidation than stealth

[storm magnet]

Can resurrecting someone ever accidentally create a clone?

[stiff rock]

not RAW to my knowledge, but a DM can always just choose to say it does. there is a dedicated clone spell, but it's not technically resurrection

[wanton sorrel]

like chaotic evil?

sighs i love how alignments are so fun.

[old folio]

I was thinking chaotic neutral tbh

[wanton sorrel]

ah that's fine that works too

[storm magnet]

I was thinking like, a party thinks someone’s dead, uses a wish spell to revive them later/at a different location, and the best way the spell tries to fulfill the wish is by cloning them

[stiff rock]

i guess it would depend on the wording of the wish, but yeah that would work

[umbral girder]

Yeah I think the 2024 PHB has one too

[umbral girder]

Yeah but only 1 of the bodies can be alive at a time.

Since the spell requires bringing the soul back into the body. A good example of this is the Clone spell.

[storm magnet]

It can’t duplicate souls?

Wish I mean

[umbral girder]

Nope

[still plover]

I wouldn't imagine it could, unless the DM wants to pull some The Enemy Within shenanigans on you (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enemy_Within_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)).

[maiden plinth]

where can i ask questrions

to professional dnd players to ask questions

[umbral girder]

That’s why Acererak’s simulacrum was screwed over and needed Asmodeus’ help because he couldn’t wish himself a new soul.

[still plover]

Right here, but if you're just getting started with the game #dnd-newcomers might be more help.

[tame kelp]

If a player is flying becuz of the spell, and move through or away from the enemy that has melee attack.

Will this provoke oppotunity attack?

[umbral girder]

Yes because they are using movement

[storm magnet]

Can anything duplicate a soul?

[tame kelp]

What if they fly so high???

[rough basalt]

You're still moving within their attack range initially

[tame kelp]

If oppotunity attack success, the flying person will be fall to the ground??

[rough basalt]

If they fail conc yeah

[umbral girder]

Still happens if you are leaving the monster’s attack range

[umbral girder]

Nah

[tame kelp]

Is it like knocked to prone?

[umbral girder]

If they are concentrating on the spell yes (if they fail the save)

[storm magnet]

Can wish tear a soul in half?

[umbral girder]

Being knocked prone makes a flying person fall (unless it’s hover flight)

[umbral girder]

That just kills them.

[storm magnet]

But they’re already dead

[umbral girder]

Like even in the Acererak case Asmodeus just made a new soul.

[umbral girder]

As in permanently erases them.

[storm magnet]

Can two bodies share one soul then?

[tame kelp]

Is there any rules for flying?

2014

[umbral girder]

Same as I mentioned before.

[umbral girder]

Nope.

[tame kelp]

Where can I take a look @_@

[snow zephyr]

Phb

[umbral girder]

If you want two of the same person running around you could just use the Simulacrum spell

[tame kelp]

There is no mention the rule of flying in 2014 Basic Rule website

[snow zephyr]

Gotta get the books

[tame kelp]

I don't have the book man. I'm poor

[umbral girder]

Should be under movement last I checked.

[storm magnet]

I was trying to think of a way for a player or NPC to accidentally clone someone

[jovial shadow]

No.

[still plover]

Flying, here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/basic-rules-2014/combat#FlyingMovement

[umbral girder]

Hmm it’s not in movement. I forgot how badly organized the 2014 books were

[idle oar]

The free rules (2014 or 2024) should have references to flying - see https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#Flying (2024 free rules)

[umbral girder]

Make an undead monster out of the old body and now you have a soulless creature running around in that old body.

[still plover]

Player, sure, a wish and the DM's agreement. NPCs don't have to use the same rules as players.

Maybe they were working on a ritual for ten years and at the crucial moment something went wrong. Make it up.

[umbral girder]

Could even have “one body got the soul and the other is rotting because of it”

[still plover]

Or make up an artifact, something that was deliberately lost but someone's gone to great trouble to find and try to use.

[umbral girder]

Yeah homebrew is a method

[still plover]

Perhaps it's something a devil made up and the results were so repellent even they stopped using it.

[clear trellis]

how long am i gonna have to wait to find another campaign 🫠

[storm magnet]

Hmm

Thanks for the ideas guys

Can you name 5 intelligent creatures that would be immune to an intellect devourer?

[umbral girder]

Strahd

[fair summit]

Until you find one, really. It can take a while depending on how strict your requirements for a game are, anywhere from a day to few weeks or more. Impossible to give an actual estimate

[umbral girder]

Ghost, Lich, Wraith, Helmed Horrors, Tiamat.

[small heath]

Should I try playing a Ranger? What cool stuff do they get?

[umbral girder]

Ranger gets a mixture of all 4 of the known class types.

[clear trellis]

pbp or atleast allow me to use text, and mostly normal D&D without alot of homebrew

[storm magnet]

Helmed Horrors are intelligent?

[umbral girder]

They get martial skills, skills, mobility, expertise, utility and control casting and support casting too.

[fair summit]

Best class who get plenty of fun stuff 😎
Useful martial stuff like extra attack, they get fast, get expertise, fun spells

Give it a go!

[umbral girder]

Got a 10 in their mental scores and knows languages

So yes.

[small heath]

Hawkeye is my favorite Marvel hero and I lowkey wanna try it out and recreate him

[storm magnet]

What about those mushroom guys that are chill and helpful

[umbral girder]

Myconoids? Maybe.

Other options too

Mind Flayer, Alhoon, Illithidlich, Elder Brains, and Strahd

Due to stats alone.

Since the Brain thing is only 3d6 a 19 or high Int makes you immune

[storm magnet]

Stats alone? What would it look like in universe if Strahd just stood there against an intellect devourer?

[small heath]

Interesting

[umbral girder]

It would try its psychic moves and it would do nothing and get kicked like a football most likely

[jovial shadow]

Wishing for magical items is tricky. In the first part of the spell it implies it can only create non-magical items. But in the last part it says trying to wish for legendary items or an Artifact will either transport you to the presence of the current wielder or if granted, you will suddenly be targeted by powerful beings.

[still plover]

-# "You kick devourer? You kick devourer like the football? Dungeon! Dungeon for Strahd for a hundred years!"

[umbral girder]

Strahd? Doing evil things? Say it ain’t so! Truly out of character for him. /jk

[storm magnet]

What about creatures smaller then a intellect devourer

How can it replace the brain physically?

[umbral girder]

Probably

[storm magnet]

Like a Pseudodragon

[reef tundra]

Then it gonna become a body devourer /j

[umbral girder]

Intellect Devourers usually ignore them as they like smart prey mainly

[still plover]

Right, but that's merging the two approaches together. My artifact based suggestions were along the lines of a device with these capabilities already existing in the world, waiting for a suitably epic quest to find them.

[umbral girder]

Also yeah the intellect devourer can just tear it apart with it’s claws

[storm magnet]

Can an intellect devourer beat a pseudodragon in a fight? Or an imp?

[rough basalt]

Depends.

[umbral girder]

Sure

So long as they are in melee range.

[still plover]

Anyone want to run the numbers for an average?

[umbral girder]

It’s a cr2 monster vs Cr1

[hollow thicket]

just some quick confirmation: If an Off-turn Spell (i.e. a Reaction spell) is cast and uses 1 Spell Slot, will it cause the next On-turn to have 0 Spell Slots?

[umbral girder]

A psuedo dragon is Cr1/4

[storm magnet]

I’m imagining a scenario where a warlock is incapacitated against a Intellect devourer, and a familiar kills/fights it off. Which one could do it?

[crude dagger]

I'm sure this has been a topic, but why haven't we gotten an official Dragon warlock yet?

[umbral girder]

Also PsuedoDragon and the Imp both lack ranged attacks

[umbral girder]

Probably because of Draconic Sorcerer does the same narratively I’m guessing

[crude dagger]

Fair I guess

[umbral girder]

Like the PHB 2014 outright says you can get it by making a deal with a dragon

[still plover]

Alright. So the ID is wounded in the fight and the familiar finishes it, sure.

[crude dagger]

I've got a 2014 Draconic Sorcerer/ Undead warlock, and just flavor it as an undead dragon.

[storm magnet]

But no familiar can likely take a fresh intellect devourer huh

[umbral girder]

So a Dracolich

[slim root]

Or u could use reborn lineage

[umbral girder]

I usually go Fiend or Celestial warlock and say “Bahamut or Tiamat” for mine

[crude dagger]

Lol, I think... I'm not exactly sure how the DM is gonna angle it.

[storm magnet]

If an intellect devourer is faced with an ooze, would it obliviously walk into it unaware of its presence, attack it or walk around it

[umbral girder]

Depends on the ooze

Some are smart so it can sense them. Like an Oblex.

[storm magnet]

An unintelligent one?

[umbral girder]

Then maybe. Depends on the Ooze because you can still just see the Ooze

You’d need like a Gelatinous cube which can be unseen when they move and have no intelligence

[crude dagger]

I use Undead warlock for the Form of Dread. That's his patron coming out. Kinda Moon Knight/Venom feel.

[umbral girder]

K

[storm magnet]

I’m trying to think of a funny way an intellect devourer can kill itself

Due to its limitations

[exotic sinew]

So I am planning on playing a fey wanderer ranger in my upcoming DnD campaign in the wild beyond the Witchlight.

What are like spells I should prioritise from the spells list. Feats to look out for when I get to level 4. How should I approach combats and non combat scenarios.

And lastly is it worth multiclassing and if so what should I look at?

This is on 2024 rules by the way

[tame solstice]

Hello! I’m new to this Discord. I joined because I have a problem: I really enjoy D&D, but no one around me knows how to play. When I do get people to play, I’m always forced into being the DM, which means I never get to play my rogue or my druid. Could anyone give me some tips?

[still plover]

Looking for a group to be a player in?

[clear trellis]

#looking-for-dm

[tame solstice]

yes but not online, so i was wondering do you know what i could do?

[storm magnet]

Go to your city’s subreddit and ask there maybe

[still plover]

Wait, wrong one.

Game and hobby shops, libraries and school groups. Check online socials like Facebook too.

[tame kelp]

Mass Healing Word is for 6 people. If a team of players has only 5. one more heal where should it go?

[jovial shadow]

Libraries. Where are you from that people hang out in libraries?

[exotic sinew]

Check your local games store to see if they host games there

[tame kelp]

double heal one target?

[clear trellis]

most likely you just dont heal an extra person but i dont know anything at all about that

[tame solstice]

Im trying to host a club at my local school libraries, but no one has joined.

[umbral girder]

I like Long strider and Cure Wounds

[prime pewter]

Okay so important question thst requires a bit of backstory: in the current dnd game I'm in, I play the token fey themed character (hes a warlock whose patron is literally the Witch of the North Star). But the dm was pretty clear about wanting us to send in our own stuff. And I kinda wanna ask him (the dm) if I can make a simple npc thing for a guy called the goblin lord, an archfey who rules over a labyrinth (the game has some pretty clear Fey elements so idk) yes this is a reference to the David Bowie movie

[still plover]

Some libraries have provisions for social groups and meet-ups, or a community notice board to advertise on.

[clear trellis]

your name gave me a laugh

[prime pewter]

No problem

[storm magnet]

How can you disguise yourself amongst feral vampires? Or is that impossible

[still plover]

Alright, with you so far. What's the question?

[prime pewter]

Should I ask my dm if I could write up an npc stat block for this archfey?

[umbral girder]

You can just ask the DM.

[prime pewter]

Just did it

[still plover]

I'd say tricky. Some Walking Dead, smear yourself with guts kind of stuff. You might get away with it. They might hear your heartbeat.

[storm magnet]

I thought they could sense you’re not undead supernaturally

[exotic sinew]

So on my character sheet at the moment I have ensnaring strike and cure wounds. I was debating whether to take hail of thorns or ensnaring strike but idk ensnaring strike seemed like it would help my team as well. Obviously I can only prepare 2 spells at level 1 but I will look at long strider and see what it does and when it might be useful cause I can swap one prepared spell after a long rest apparently

Oh and obviously with favoured enemy I have hunters mark

[umbral girder]

It gives the target a +10ft of speed for an hour without concentration.

[still plover]

I'd describe what I know of their capabilities in broad terms and leave the particulars to the DM, personally. Why would I know the HP and AC of my nemesis?

[prime pewter]

Oh misunderstanding

[clear trellis]

man i need to find a dnd campaign desperately

[prime pewter]

I was just gonna write up personality traits

[clear trellis]

but there arent any in #looking-for-players or roll20

[umbral girder]

Then look at other recruitment servers and websites.

Those aren’t the only options after all.

[clear trellis]

yeah but i dont know the other options

[still plover]

Oh, sure! With the caveat that it's going to be as your character sees them, of course.

[umbral girder]

DnDBeyond and googling “D&D LFG subreddit/discord”

Or just DM your own game

[storm magnet]

I was thinking it’s harder to disguise yourself around feral vampires than normal ones, is this true?

[clear trellis]

never tried dming but i know i'd be terrible

[umbral girder]

Yeah that’s the point of new skills

Like all of them. You start terrible and grow from it.

[clear trellis]

yeah but i can barely make a backstory longer than one sentence without guidance

[umbral girder]

That’s what prewritten modules are for

Also, once again, that’s what building new skills is about

[clear trellis]

i just dont think i'd be good at it

[still plover]

Wanna make an adventure to run? Come to #dm-discussion and ping me.

[clear trellis]

like me make the adventure?

[umbral girder]

Said you’re desperate for a campaign, this is the fastest track.

[clear trellis]

becoming a DM?

[still plover]

It's easier than you think, trust me.

[marble lion]

Indeed

[clear trellis]

well considering i've only ever played two campaigns (one being a westmarches and the other having session 1 repeated 3 times), i dont think i have enough experience

[marble lion]

If you already know how to play as a player

[clear trellis]

i dont

[marble lion]

You played 4 sessions

[umbral girder]

Then a good read through of chapter 1 and 2 of the Basic rules/players handbook tells you how to be a player easily enough.

[marble lion]

Rolling saves, skill checks, attacks and damage id think

[clear trellis]

not that good at reading with adhd

[marble lion]

DMing is mostly just being 20 players at once

Its quite similar to being a player mechanically

[umbral girder]

And? I got ADHD and have dozens of books.

[marble lion]

You just decide the surroundings

[clear trellis]

and i'm not that good at social interaction... nor being liked

[still plover]

You don't need to do it perfectly, but doing it at all will be an achievement.

[umbral girder]

D&D is all social interaction with other people

[worn lagoon]

DMins is a lot more exhausting than playing

[marble lion]

Youtube tutorials can show you how to play too

[umbral girder]

Nah DMing is drastically easy thanks to the 2024 DMG fixing things

[marble lion]

Ive basically not read anything when i learnt the game

[clear trellis]

i dont even know how to play anything other than wizard

[umbral girder]

Serious you can make an entire 3-5 hour adventure in half a page

[marble lion]

How does 24 change that

[umbral girder]

A lot better and clearer tools in making adventures as well as setting examples on how to do so.

[still plover]

Goblins and skeletons are peanuts by comparison.

[marble lion]

Its good that 24 dmg is better at teaching DMing

But i dont think that in any way makes actual DMing easier once youre familiar

[umbral girder]

It makes encounter building drastically easier to understand compared to the old one

[marble lion]

Nor does it reduce the amount of notes required
Half a page is more than most of my 14 sessions

[marble lion]

Yeah thats good for teaching

[worn lagoon]

It's still a lot of work though

As a player the bare minimum is to put together a character that gets the "yes", as a DM you do everything else

[marble lion]

As dm the bare minimum is saying yes to the players sheet technically

Ive run improv sessions without any prep and while it was different, it definitely fulfilled "bare minimum"

However, once youre actually playing, the DM must think a lot, be it through checking notes or improvising