dnd-discussion

[low ferry]

Is Crooked Moon safe to buy and you would get everything in book form? Also how do I change the the price to £

[stiff rock]

digitally, yes, it is safe to buy on d&dbeyond
physical books don't ship to the UK if you buy them on d&dbeyond as it's an american retailer

[low ferry]

Damn okay

[stiff rock]

you could check amazon or see if a local game store has it in stock?

[glossy narwhal]

I have a question.

[glass granite]

I have answer

[stiff rock]

to my knowledge only the core & big 3 expanded rules are available on the wotc international store https://dndstore.wizards.com/uk

[low ferry]

Is this one? https://thirstymeeples.co.uk/products/the-crooked-moon-rpg-standard-edition?variant=55384533991800&country=GB&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2018-10-08&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17510554939&gbraid=0AAAAAC7B5hZFH5Gcmqj3iLbbZ0JObFYSZ&gclid=CjwKCAiAmp3LBhAkEiwAJM2JUKv2QBOGk2XhxPzt31zEhq8t2hgCGIPPHqf9w3wmV1cflCZl0uEfyBoCzfQQAvD_BwE

[glossy narwhal]

Well the pictures are in #dnd-arts-and-crafts

It's about some of the sword designs

[stiff rock]

i believe so but double check it contains what you want first

[low ferry]

Is it the one with the gambit thing in it?

[stiff rock]

i don't own crooked moon so i really couldn't tell you, i only know how the international stuff works because i've had my own headaches in the past trying to find older dnd books that ship to the UK

[wispy flare]

Just ordered a 2024 dm screen on Amazon

[low ferry]

The one i found is in bath

[stiff rock]

the contents of this look to line up with the full bundle on d&dbeyond, so yeah the subclasses are included

says in the little contents dropdown

[low ferry]

Nice might get it then

[keen cave]

So I made character art for one of my players and one of my other players said that’s something only bad DM’s do. Should I not have done that?

[low ferry]

The races tho look bad

[stiff rock]

you should always ask permission as some players are particularly protective over their characters/OCs but it's not a bad thing to do

[warm quest]

Alright can someone explain me how combat works in basic terms?
(Forget movement like the 30ft range thing cuz my dm doesn't really care about that we removed that to make it less complicated)
Side note; I am a new first time player, playing with 3 other new first time players and 1 new first time dm.

We have only had 1 session, that was a lot of fun, but i think we didn't do combat the right way,...

[keen cave]

I’m an artist, and they asked me to do so.

[stiff rock]

i don't think you can get the subclasses without the races included. by 'full bundle' i meant it combines the DM and player parts, so unless you're DMing you'll not really need half of the book

[stiff rock]

then no lol it's a kind and perfectly normal thing to do

[low ferry]

I know just they just look bad but still get it. I do like playing dhampir tho

[stiff rock]

fairs lol

[visual tapir]

I’m super new to dnd n wanna learn how to play

[stiff rock]

does the new astarion's book of hungers not have a dhampir race?

[stiff rock]

#dnd-newcomers may be best if you're looking for help

[low ferry]

I am using the other dhampir one it has a vampire at the front

[floral sorrel]

Does anyone have any recommendations for solo story books to play between games?

[stiff rock]

there are solo books?

[buoyant oar]

Head to the DM's Guild. Most of the solo game books there are pretty good in my opinion

[low ferry]

Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft

[glossy narwhal]

Does anyone know what the stylized Kopis and Falchion swords fall under in #dnd-arts-and-crafts ? I was thinking maybe scimitar. But I'm honestly unsure.

[stiff rock]

definitely scimitar. kopis, falchions and scimitars are all curved swords so it makes sense to link them together

[grave sorrel]

Anyone want to play rn? I'm bored. (must be 18+)

[stiff rock]

shortsword could also be a contender but scimitar makes more sense

[timid current]

Factions and kopis are functionally closer to axes than scimitars

They are very forward-weighted, even though they are curved

[stiff rock]

i think it wouldm ake more sense to more people ifthey were kept within some kind of category of sword

[glossy narwhal]

Except the thing about Falchions is that they have two different types. Classic and clip point.

[naive cedar]

omg yay!!!! im gonna be a tiefling!!!!!

[glossy narwhal]

The clip point falchions tend to have somewhat thinner blades than classic falchions

[stiff rock]

you seem to know more about swords than me but i'd still say scimitar just for simplicity's sake

[buoyant oar]

A kopis is more of a ritualistic item and wasn't the standard blade of Greek soldiers.

That would be the Xiphos which is essentially a short sword.

[glossy narwhal]

I know what a Xiphos is. Trust me. It's honestly my favorite type of sword, if I had to pick one. Quick, light, and incredibly deadly

[glass granite]

I like the Polish Sabre

Well, Nodachi if we’re including two handed swords

[glossy narwhal]

Plus the Xiphos is wielded by some of my favorite characters from Greek mythology, Achilles, Perseus. Also it's the sword wielded by one of my favorite book characters that's tied to Greek mythology - Percy Jackson

[jaunty wyvern]

never ask dnd chat what their favorite polearm is I almost died

[empty thicket]

Halberd is nice, i like the style of it

[glossy narwhal]

Mine is the Glaive

Idk why

They're cool

[jaunty wyvern]

I never realized how divisive the definition of polearm truly was

[empty thicket]

isnt like, polearm just weapons and a stick?
Spears, halberds, lances , trident

[jaunty wyvern]

You'd think wouldnt you

[empty thicket]

quaterstaff too

this long axe with a point of spear too
A Maul would be too depending of how long is the stick of it

[glossy narwhal]

When I think of polearms, I think of spears, javelins, pikes, glaives, halberds, trident, naginatas or however you spell it

[empty thicket]

or what im missing?

[jaunty wyvern]

I'm not engaging ive been there

[empty thicket]

bro... isnt that serious chill

[jaunty wyvern]

I joking but like not actually lol

[empty thicket]

now i have teh curiosity....

[jaunty wyvern]

theres whole polearm discourse among weapon enjoyers

im not well versed enough in it

[glossy narwhal]

Glaives are some of the best polearms in my opinion

[glass granite]

I like Partisans

[glossy narwhal]

Those are cool

[empty thicket]

I find halberds like,
You have an axe and spear in the same thing with both good worlds

the only thing missing is that can grow up figs and i would be hooked up like crazy

[jaunty wyvern]

I always gravitate towards glaives when im playing fighters

[glossy narwhal]

I love how the Glaive is designed offensively and defensively. Because of the hooks on the spine of the blade as well as underneath the ricasso.

[empty thicket]

Real question, Whip, its worth?

[potent vector]

There just smth Abt them to me that screams "I know what I'm doing"

[jaunty wyvern]

no but by god is it funny

When humblewood vol 2's wrangler monk comes out it might be worth it but rn? no

[primal wolf]

I used to like whip when i could use booming blade and green flame blade on it from 10ft

[glass granite]

For monks sometimes.

[potent vector]

For Rogue's who for some reason don't want to use ranged weapons, it can be if the main enemies you fight only have 5 ft of reach.

Cunning action not needed for Disengage action is just rly nice

[empty thicket]

When its that Time when you being a monk, when your hands are literally nukes wrapped with napalm (exaggeration)
You need to use a whip?

[jaunty wyvern]

Would indiana jones be a monk be fr

[glossy narwhal]

I thought monks would use something like quarterstaff or bo staff. Maybe something like the dao

[glass granite]

Monks can use a lot of weapons

[empty thicket]

he used guns, a fighter better said

[jaunty wyvern]

exactly

[potent vector]

Quarterstaff is one of the options for monk weapons, ye, irrc

[primal wolf]

Kensi monk can even use guns

[jaunty wyvern]

Monk weapon was always a dubious definition

[empty thicket]

and 1d4, unless you use it to apply spells or smt like that i feel it.... weird

[jaunty wyvern]

especially when new weapon types outside core get introduced

[potent vector]

We NEED an updated Kensei (before I snap and make a top busted one myself)

[glossy narwhal]

I'm also talking irl

[empty thicket]

or idk, your dm let you use it for disarm some enemies or apply them disadvantage but even in that is... with maestry you apply slow (-10ft of movement)

[jaunty wyvern]

I still think monks should get weapon mastery

[primal wolf]

in 2024 It's hard to beat nick mastery as far as weapon using goes

[potent vector]

I dispute that only because Nick exists

[jaunty wyvern]

topple would be amazing on monk

[glass granite]

Their entire thing is unarmed fighting, I wouldn’t say so. For Kensei for sure tho

[jaunty wyvern]

would give a reason to have a monk weapon

[potent vector]

Taking a dip for it is def on the table if you want Masteries, but Monk is already rly strong

[glass granite]

I like taking a single level in ranger if I wanna use weapons

Else monoclass monk alll the wayyy

[primal wolf]

2024 nerfing all the dip options by pushing subclasses back to 3rd level is kind of a drag too

[lean wigeon]

for the best
multiclassing was never meant to be a core rule anyway

[jaunty wyvern]

Multiclassing is just so versatile in terms of character expression

[potent vector]

I would have been fine with it if they changed smth Abt multiclassing to make it more varied . . . But then it just stayed the same . . .

[minor lake]

heard pathfinder fixes this without needing to multiclass

[jaunty wyvern]

I couldn't live without it unless the subclass was exactly what i wanted and thats usually not the case

[primal wolf]

if it's not meant to be a core rule they you shouldn't change your base rules to compensate?

[minor lake]

apparently you dont have to choose between stat boots and a new feat, you get stat boots regardless

[glossy narwhal]

Couldn't a monk use a scimitar in dnd?

[glass granite]

Yup!

[jaunty wyvern]

I can never take "pathfinder fixes this" seriously anymore lmao

[minor lake]

lol

[potent vector]

Ye, but we saw how they gave in to Dark Sun and Psion for things they said they'd never do in the older team, I'm hoping they address it eventually at least.

[lean wigeon]

dragonbane fixes this

[primal wolf]

but yeah mutliclassing is about as necessary as it was in old 5e it's just now you do it but don't get a subclass

[jaunty wyvern]

eating glass rn i heard that fixes this

low blow man...

[minor lake]

i just saw a headline that was like "i tried D&D's most famous alternative!"
and I was like "pathfinder?" but it turned out to be some third party system i've literally never heard of before

ah yes, d&d's most famous alternative, "downstairs dungeon Halloween"

[jaunty wyvern]

Kids on bikes fixes this (by not having rules)

[minor lake]

FACTS

i ran a kids on bikes session once and it's mostly a setting

[lean wigeon]

multiclassing was never a core rule in 2014. it was an optional rule

[primal wolf]

I think it'd be better if we had more feats and multiclassing was done via feats rather than the current method

[potent vector]

Everything in Pathfinder is a feat too, "subclass" features included (so it feels more like a skill tree).

[glossy narwhal]

Fits with irl. They sometimes use the Dao, which is very similar to the classic falchion and Persian scimitar.

[minor lake]

Survive This fixes this by having survival points instead of luck points and that's really it

[jaunty wyvern]

did someone say luck points?! as in the lucky feat? rawugh row ruf ruff

[potent vector]

This is the method Pathfinder does lmao

[minor lake]

Survive This is actually fun it's just a pain to balance with 5e bc everyone in Survive This is weak af

[potent vector]

2e at least

[primal wolf]

Pathfinder has some cool aspects to it; i haven't played much of it though.

[potent vector]

(haven't played the other lol)

[minor lake]

me showing up to the table with my frankensteins monster of a module scrapped together from 5e, Survive This, Mork Borg & Vampire the Masquerade

with a healthy dose of YouTuber homebrew

[primal wolf]

My current TTRPG of choice has the same method for multiclassing and it seems to work a lot better

[minor lake]

whats ur fave?

or your current

[primal wolf]

Ishanekon: World Shapers

[minor lake]

ooo i have not heard of it

i like the vibe already

[potent vector]

Wait, is this the one where you don't know what your powers are until you start?

[primal wolf]

it's got tons of character build options

[minor lake]

im googling

apparently they just released a Stormlight Archives TTRPG and I am hype about it

[primal wolf]

Nope; your powers are picked by you

[minor lake]

has anyone played the Oz RPG?

[stiff rock]

TTRPGs are such an insanely cool genre i'm so upset nobody introduced me to them sooner, i only found out about D&D basically a year ago today

[primal wolf]

Yeah TTRPG's are great and finally gave me that fantasy roleplay aspect to games i'd been looking for when i first started

[minor lake]

they're fun!!!!

also honestly they are hard.
the improv skills of a regular dnd player is very impressive to me

dm too

[stiff rock]

i love them they're just confusing as hell and none of my friends like DMing so i'm usually stuck as a dm

[minor lake]

this is the way.

[stiff rock]

always a breath of fresh air when i get to play

[minor lake]

you are the lightbringer

[vale sage]

Hey, I’m new to D&D

[minor lake]

i was the one who showed my friends dnd and thankfully one of our friends has recently gotten into DMing but i was pretty much the forever DM for years

[potent vector]

Oh, they're the ones that did that? Reminds me I should check that out lol

[minor lake]

Welcome!

[opal relic]

Hi could someone send me the monster sheet of Herrerasaurus 5e please?

[stiff rock]

i genuinely think i can count the number of sessions i've been a player on one hand

[minor lake]

i dont actually know who made it

[vale sage]

Thank you, I’ve made my character already from a website called Roll20

[opal relic]

DandD website keeps timing out on my connection :/

[minor lake]

i love roll20

[minor lake]

sadly i do not have it

[vale sage]

It’s so easy to make characters

[minor lake]

with roll20 absolutely

the charactermancer is great

[opal relic]

Okay loaded up! 😄
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Herrerasaurus_(5e_Creature)

[minor lake]

epic

[primal wolf]

I'm not in a dnd campaign currently but been thinking about looking for another one... last one kind of fizzled out

[vale sage]

Wanna see my character sheet if so dm me

[minor lake]

been there

do u wanna dm or be a player?

[primal wolf]

Player; i'm DMing a different system currently

[stiff rock]

thankfully i've been invited to a game this weekend but i'm the only non-newbie amongst them (which is usually quite fun)

[opal relic]

That has been my entire experience playing dnd over the past 10 years. Longest it lasted was 1year thankfully, so I got to experience a proper game, but yea its hard to find a dedicated group + life gets in the way a lot

I'm now looking into DMing and working on a campaign lol

[raw ocean]

Hardest part of D&D is when it just stops randomly on a Tuesday

[stiff rock]

what hurts more - a breakup or a d&d campaign fizzling out

[raw ocean]

Seeing a D&D campaign fizzle out because of break up

[stiff rock]

fortunately we keep romance out of our groups (everyone but me is a straight male)

[raw ocean]

PBP campaign I was just in just fizzled out sadly

[stiff rock]

pbp?

[raw ocean]

Post by post, it's like D&D but in text form

[eager marsh]

Campaigns fizzle out regularly and can be replaced with ease and less emotional risk and pain than a breakup I would say

[stiff rock]

ohhh i've heard of those

[opal relic]

That's how the 1 year campaign ended lol everyone was basically doing each other casually and it left a few sour notes and people stopped showing up

[raw ocean]

Basically the DM asked a player to be in a relationship, player turned them down, then the campaign started getting less and less active, then the DM just left the discord an hour ago

[opal relic]

Ouch

[raw ocean]

D&D relationships truly anger me, but I still have hope there's good ones

[eager marsh]

Oh that’s…uh. Unfortunate

[woven flint]

Guh..

[stiff rock]

i never understand people who fall for each other like that over d&d, because surely the majority of what you experience of the person you fall for is just the character they portray ingame?

[opal relic]

Relationships ruin a lot of things 😂

[raw ocean]

Rightfully there was character on character flirting, but maybe the DM took it outside of the game?

[eager marsh]

Only thing I’ll say is they should have waited til the campaign finished before confessing if they had that much investment and risk of rejection response

[cursive thorn]

Lines blur, people fall for fictional characters on Television shows, we are not a rational species.

[raw ocean]

But hey, atleast im currently in three different campaigns

[opal relic]

Depends, for some the campaign could be their only ever opportunity getting to know someone, incels, insecurities, general bad behaviour

[raw ocean]

I make good characters but my personal greed takes me over, it's hard to deny good loot

[opal relic]

and you know rose tinted glasses too "Oh, they're hot cause they play this game that I also like to play"

[primal wolf]

I feel like most of my DM's never give my characters any loot

[stiff rock]

that's actualyl a really logical answer lol

[woven flint]

A good person can still be greedy, lol

[stiff rock]

i try to make at least one custom tailored magic item per plot arc

[raw ocean]

Im playing paladin and the rich ship were on is sinking so im like "Let's go loot the stuff before it's gone", then someone said "Shoulden't we save people first?"

[stiff rock]

even if it's small it makes my players feel pretty cool

[primal wolf]

I think the most i've ever gotten that wasn't crafted by me was an opal of the ild rune at the end of a quest

[raw ocean]

I recently convinced my new DM to let my character collect 10 swords corresponding to the damage types

[stiff rock]

saintsworn

[raw ocean]

Although I gotta finish my backstory, all the homebrew items in the next... 2 days?

[stiff rock]

it's a similar thing in a game my friends play where you get a special set of abilities if you collect each elemental sword. pretty cool stuff

[stiff rock]

i've got an entire battlemap to make by tomorrow morning lol

[raw ocean]

Oh lord, what program do you use

[stiff rock]

my hands, i'm trying out physical maps for the first time

i've gotten through about 3/4 of the minis and maps in the last 12 h ours

[raw ocean]

Never played offline before, I do wonder how DM's add secret rooms without yk, exposing them

[primal wolf]

I think part of the problem is I tend to obliterate encounters without magic items so people don't want to add any more power to my PC's

[stiff rock]

i usually just theatre-of-mind secret rooms, or have a detachable segment

we used lego previously for setpiece fights but ran out so i'm using cardboard, paper and foam now

[raw ocean]

If my players are doing good, I usually just give them a "this is neat" sort of magic item that dosen't do alot combat wise

[strong nymph]

I usually draw the room on a separate piece of paper and set it on the map if they find it (as someone who uses 2D maps)

[lean wigeon]

imo PCs should ideally be swimming in magic items

[primal wolf]

I just want some good armor and some spell storing items

[lean wigeon]

FR is a magical setting. there is magic everywhere. they should be getting them like candy

[strong nymph]

Agreed. Magic items make every encounter x10 more fun

[stiff rock]

i only give out magic items i personally find funny. a +1 sword is good but not fun

[raw ocean]

I remember one time I had this tier 4 PC who just wanted to buy alot of magical items [60,000+ Gold in his pocket alone], and the DM said they were pretty rare so I woulden't be able to find much?

[stiff rock]

whereas a wand of wonder makes any fight infinitely more exciting

though i do give out mechanically good magic items at higher levels or at the end of side quests

[stiff rock]

it makes sense that the PC would have to travel to find specific magic items, but i read that as your DM shut the whole idea because 'they'd be hard to find'?

[frosty bough]

hi

[primal wolf]

I'm cool with the less number-driven items too. One of the best encounters for one of my PC's involved me using a folding boat to create cover

[sleek cloud]

You should look into the bag of withholding

[raw ocean]

Yes. [DM's Cousin had an artifact tier weapon btw]

[stiff rock]

nepotism in d&d lol

[raw ocean]

Exists in alot of games, even if they aren't related

I genuinely despise it when I join a game and everyone is bring up stuff I don't know about

Like the campaign just started, why wasn't this in session 0 😭

[frosty bough]

how are you guys

[sleek cloud]

That’s just sorcerers

[fossil hollow]

i live

[sleek cloud]

Counterspell

[primal wolf]

Sorcadins have extreme nepotism energy

[stiff rock]

nepo baby AND a sugar daddy is a wild matchup

[fossil hollow]

average sorlock?

[sleek cloud]

Paladin 6/divine soul sorcerer x is pretty potent

[woven flint]

My Warlock got three magic items in one session once

He purchased Elven Chain armor for better defense

We were gifted a ring of mind-shielding and the group decided to give it to him because he was holding a piece of the Rod of Seven Parts because he's the most trusted party member

And
He got a Staff of Power because the dm felt bad for basically bullying him in a combat lol

[fossil hollow]

hoeh

where's muh loot

[sleek cloud]

I got a wand of magic missiles last session

[primal wolf]

I see this combo a lot but then they go for STR 19 / cha 13. if your CHA isn't at least 16 you're not a sugar daddy anymore, you're splenda father.

[woven flint]

We did get a Ring of Evasion, that could be good for you

[fossil hollow]

id like it pleeeze

[stiff rock]

this is why wizards are the best casters

[timid current]

Oop, who pinged me? Looks like it was deleted

[sleek cloud]

Debating on giving it to the barbarian but I don’t know if the barbarian can be trusted enough to not snap it in half, you’d have to see them in play to really get it

It wasn’t me Dave I swear

[raw ocean]

It was an announcment that you won D&D and you now own the copyright, but you missed it

[timid current]

Cool. Wish it hadn't happened during a meeting but that's life

[frosty bough]

Perfect. My AC needed drip

[stiff rock]

as a former barbarian, never give them anything that isn't tightly reinforced or it will be split into pieces

[raw ocean]

If you guys actually won the copyright to D&D, what would you do with it?

[primal wolf]

this is more than i get in a campaign

[frosty bough]

??

[sleek cloud]

I feel better about not doing it now lol

[naive cedar]

wizards are cool bc they aren’t nepo babies 😤

[stiff rock]

you'd love me as a DM, i gave out wwayyy too many magic items during my tyranny of dragons campaign. players ended up planting a beanstalk IN a giant's castle, and then blowing a horn of valhalla

at i think 8th level

that was when i was cool, i'm really stingey about magic items now

[woven flint]

Sovis Cova, that darned ol Drow Warlock o' mine?
He's got
Boots of Elvenkind, a Ring of Necrotic Resistance, a Staff of Power, a Ring of Mind Shielding, Elven Chain, a Staff of Power and he's the current one entrusted to hold onto the Two pieces of the Rod of Seven pieces that we have so far lol

[primal wolf]

I'm usually rationing my gold pieces because I can only cast find familiar 5 times before my supply runs out

[fossil hollow]

wheremst my Ring of Evasion

[woven flint]

You'll have to ask Lily for it

[fossil hollow]

oh, lily has it? Then im chill for now

[primal wolf]

had a DM get so upset at my idea to fabricate armor and sell it that he kicked me out of a campaign once

[woven flint]

She wanted to give it to someone, silly

[fossil hollow]

oh

[undone rain]

I wonder how annoying it must be to sleep for tielfings when they have horns

[woven flint]

Probably not that annoying tbh

[stiff rock]

shame on you for having a creative solution

[undone rain]

Like if you got some real curved horns going backwards

[potent vector]

Vro, that is literally one of the most intended ways to use a spell possible vro 💔

[sleek cloud]

My locks got a rod of the Pactkeeper +1, wand of magic missiles, and a special +2 revolver with repeating shot infusion

[undone rain]

Atleast laying on your back

[woven flint]

Sleep om your stomach smh.

[raw ocean]

10 magic rings

[undone rain]

Nah that aint comfy

[naive cedar]

I’ve thought about that before and I think they’d just make a pillow or something that would have space for the horns

[sleek cloud]

Sleeping on your stomach superiority

[naive cedar]

I sleep on my stomach/side with one arm behind my back

[undone rain]

I can only sleep on the side

[potent vector]

Pactkeeper rod only needing one level of Warlock to give you a free 9th level spell slot in 2024e is never not funny to me

[stiff rock]

there's a species of boar that has tusks that, if the boar lives long enough, grow into its skull and kill it. now imagine being a tiefling with THOSE horns

[potent vector]

Especially since with the 2024 magic item crafting rule you can cycle them 💀

[undone rain]

Does make me wonder if their horns actually grow like that

[woven flint]

The most powerful magic items one of the characters have is the Tome of Historia (Homebrew Artifact)
It gives him
30 Intelligence, Expertise in All Intelligence Skilks, Counts all spells he Casts as one level higher up to level 9, and has 9 charges he can expend to cast ANY spell so long as charges spent are equal to the level

[naive cedar]

probably depends on the type of Tiefling

[woven flint]

It belongs to my Harengon Bladesinger lol

[fossil hollow]

hehehehe

[undone rain]

I understand why so many people like tieflings

They are pretty cool

[naive cedar]

I love tieflings

[lean wigeon]

it's those damn theater kids

[sleek cloud]

Current lock is also a tiefling

[naive cedar]

I’m not a theatre kid I just love tieflings

[lean wigeon]

invading my old school trad dnd

[woven flint]

I'm kinda meh on Tieflings, I think too many people care about making Hot Tieflings instead of monstrous fiendfolk smh.

[naive cedar]

you said the same thing twice ?

[fossil hollow]

are they not the same thing?

[woven flint]

What?

[undone rain]

Thats because tieflings are hot

[raw ocean]

I wonder what this new player picked? Tiefling Warlock

[stiff rock]

i love tieflings but i honestly think one of the most common first characters people make is a tiefling rogue. i've seen so many tiefling rogues

[naive cedar]

You heard me.

[sleek cloud]

My tiefling is the nicest guy in the group, to the point where my celestial warlock patrons actually making me less and less tiefling like as the campaign has gone on

[woven flint]

I didn't say the same thing twice?

[fossil hollow]

you say that like hot and monstrous arent the same thing /hj

[sleek cloud]

I don’t know what I’ll turn into

[woven flint]

Ah....
I see.

[naive cedar]

wait really 😭 I have a Tiefling rogue although he looks like a goat or something he’s not like a normal dude eith horns

[lean wigeon]

elf wizard dwarf cleric human fighter halfling rogue thief

[stiff rock]

a real 'john dungeon' cast

[naive cedar]

I thought the stereotypical new player character was a Tiefling warlock

[woven flint]

No, no, I mean like.. Sexy "Poh, hot fantasy man"
I find monsterous men hot, yes.
But people want their Tiefling characters to be "traditionally" hot

[raw ocean]

Same

[sleek cloud]

Lady dimitrescu

[naive cedar]

Ahh okay I gotcha. I was partially joking but yeah, I like monstrously hot tieflings

[fossil hollow]

her monstrous features is just tall and claws, not really what im saying though

[undone rain]

Purple and pink are my fav for tieflings

[naive cedar]

You forgot the gnome illusionist and half orc barbarian

and half elf Ranger

[undone rain]

John dnd, level 20 human fighter with a 9-5 backstory

[woven flint]

My Tiefling fellow, Karkas
Was scarred along most of his body, had cloven hooves. Rams horns, goats eyes and was blue-skinned like that of a strangled or drowned corpse
But he was still a lovely lad

[lean wigeon]

im different
im not like other dnd pcs

[naive cedar]

champion subclass, soldier background

[undone rain]

Sword and shield

[naive cedar]

lawful good but the guy playing him doesn’t seem to understand what lawful good means

[sleek cloud]

Brown hair, clean beard

[woven flint]

I feel like Blonde Haired hero would be more cliche

[undone rain]

John dnd vs John BG3

[knotty canyon]

Instantly clocked LMAO

[undone rain]

Hes just the same but level 12

[knotty pasture]

What class would Balduran be now that I think about it

[naive cedar]

John BG3 is an oath of vengeance a Paladin who romanced selunite Shadowheart and stakes astarion every playthrough. he also loudly announces that he staked astarion every playthrough on Reddit

[knotty pasture]

It can't be Fighter can it

[naive cedar]

I think Ranger is most likely actually

[undone rain]

Pov average oath of vengeance paladin

[fossil hollow]

Baldurans as in people from Baldur's Gate?

[knotty pasture]

No as in the founder of Baldur's Gate

[naive cedar]

Me playing an oath of vengeance Paladin who romanced Astarion 😎

[burnt valley]

How did the Warlock got bullied

[stiff rock]

ranger, fighter, or some kind of lawful good rogue

[fossil hollow]

... remind me, is he related to the god of the same name?

[reef tundra]

Baldur my bae

[undone rain]

Now thats cool. I still havent romanced him maybe i should

[naive cedar]

he’s def not a rogue. I’m guessing Ranger since it sees to fit the whole “wandering seafarer” thing more

[stiff rock]

norse mythology and baldur's gate unfortunately have no corellation:(

[undone rain]

But im more oath of devotion

[naive cedar]

It’s great! You see more of his not-so-evil side

[fossil hollow]

We literally have Tyr from Norse mythology in Faerun though

[undone rain]

As long as you dont ascend him atleast

[fossil hollow]

its not too out of line to think its Baldur the god

[naive cedar]

Balduran has nothing to do with Baldur the god

[stiff rock]

baldur's gate is named after balduran, a really rich guy who did some cool stuff and founded a city

[burnt valley]

another case of DMs punishing players for using a spell as intended

[naive cedar]

Well yeah true

[undone rain]

Bg3 gets scary when you let the companions go off on the deep end

[naive cedar]

Also you can get balduran’s old gear in BG1 I believe and it’s all stuff for fighters/rangers

[stiff rock]

i asked the same question when getting into BG3/DND for the first time and was told yes it was named after baldur from norse mythology lol. was incredibly confused when all the dragons and mind flayers showed up

[hollow ravine]

You can also buy them in BG2

Greatest RPG of all time

[naive cedar]

it’s def up there

[reef tundra]

I’d love to play the other Baldur’s Gate games one day

[sleek cloud]

The greatest rpg of all time is <REDACTED> and I will die on this hill

[hollow ravine]

Woah woah dude you can't say that

[reef tundra]

I hope they make another, but maybe in another city. I think Baldur’s Gate has faced enough peril

[naive cedar]

Ngl doing an evil run in bg3 sucks so hard. I can usually murderhobo eith no problem but like raiding the grove is just awful

[woven flint]

Clearly it's Fallout 1

[sleek cloud]

oh I said it alright

[naive cedar]

In all seriousness I really love Planescape Torment if anyone has played that

[woven flint]

I'll die on this hill
Fallout Tactics my beloved

[hollow ravine]

The same devs made sister games for Icewind Dale and Neverwinter. They also made Planescape too.

[undone rain]

Aghhh it hurts raiding the grove

[reef tundra]

Thank you. I must now search for them

[naive cedar]

I can’t betray Zevlor man 😭

[fossil hollow]

#baldurs-gate-3-spoilers for BG talk

[reef tundra]

Good call, Ti

[dusty pilot]

yo

[naive cedar]

Yo

[sleek cloud]

Yo

[dusty pilot]

im new to DND

[hollow ravine]

Icewind Dale is not a story game. It's 90% combat.

Planescape: Torment is a story game. It's 10% combat.

Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 are the "balanced" games when it comes to this, which is why they're more popular.

Neverwinter Nights is built for multiplayer and is genuinely the best online D&D experience you can ever have.

[naive cedar]

There’s also Baldurs gate dark alliance which is mostly combat

[dusty pilot]

ok

[hollow ravine]

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance is not a D&D game lol

[reef tundra]

Looks like I’m staying in Baldur’s Gate. But I’ll check out the others

[naive cedar]

…Yes it is?

[hollow ravine]

It's an action RPG brother, it's far from D&D as a system

[knotty pasture]

What version of dnd does Neverwinter Nights go off on

[naive cedar]

I mean it’s set in the DND “universe” but fair

[sleek cloud]

The pillars of eternity games are pretty solid, although I would only say it’s DnD-esque

[dusty pilot]

can someone play DND RN?

[hollow ravine]

You should check out Neverwinter Nights. It has a single player mode, but it's mostly popular for the multiplayer.

[naive cedar]

3e

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[naive cedar]

Neverwinter nights has some great mods too

[hollow ravine]

3e, but most online servers move it to 3.5e. It's not that different though.

[sleek cloud]

Nwn2 was a great game

[hollow ravine]

Blood & Magic is an RTS set in the Forgotten Realms, but I wouldn't call that D&D lol

[naive cedar]

I skipped nwn2 because I heard it was bad. I might check it out though

[hollow ravine]

Graphics are utterly horrid. Plenty of bugs too. It's okay, but it's not better than NWN1. If you want to play it, grab the original (not the Enhanced Edition). NWN2:EE is somehow more buggy than the original lmao

[naive cedar]

Oh yeah the graphics were somehow worse than rhe first game

[stiff rock]

one d&d-adjacent piece of media i've never seen anyone really mention is the d&d exhibits in two point museum lol. half the reason i bought the game was the fantasy/dnd stuff

[timber turtle]

What if DND but every character was a captain in the same army controlling regiments?

The has to a table top rp game like that right?

[fossil hollow]

might be better to look at other TTRPGs for mass combat

[knotty pasture]

So 4 Druids?

Because you basically lead your own army as a 4 Druid party

[hollow ravine]

Check out Warhammer 40,000: Only War. Hack it into a fantasy setting and voila.

[naive cedar]

Has anyone here played any of the pre-Baldurs Gate dnd games

[hot marlin]

It's not bad at all!
Graphics are shaky, but the base campaign is fun. Its main story flaw is that the companions are a bit... Bland.
Come Mask of the Betrayer, the main writer is also the main writer of KOTOR 2, Planescape Torment, Fallout New Vegas among other things. And NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is one of the finest stories ever told in D&D video game

[fossil hollow]

oh god, im running

[hollow ravine]

Yeah, I played all the Gold Box games. They're... something alright. Pretty fun, but very, very different.

[naive cedar]

Oh I didn’t know that. I LOVE KOTOR 2, Planescape, and new Vegas. I’ll check it out now

[hot marlin]

You will play Planescape Torment before the end of 2026 or I will inflict every agony ever seen upon you.

[naive cedar]

The only one I was able to play all the way through was eye of the beholder

[naive cedar]

Everyone should play Planescape torment

[hot marlin]

There's a little rule: If an RPG is renowned for its story and how deep and symbolic that story gets, he had a hand in it.

[fossil hollow]

sweating I-I will, dont worry! Ill surely have time before then!
-# does spending 5 minutes count?

[hollow ravine]

I played Strahd's Domain, which was a very, very good game. Stone Prophet was much the same, also fun, but the dungeons are the most mind-numbingly insane things to ever exist.

[hot marlin]

You will at least reach Ravel's Maze

[fossil hollow]

... I dont know what that is, and i fear if i ask, the answer will be to play the game

[hollow ravine]

You can carry over your character from Strahd's Domain to Stone Prophet.

[naive cedar]

I’ve also played Neverwinter. It’s alright

[hot marlin]

Am I so predictable?

I suppose it's not a spoiler to say that Ravel's maze is the climax of act II and that Planescape Torment is a four acts story

[fossil hollow]

you kill and slaughter spend enough time with fiends you start to get a handle on them :3

[hollow ravine]

Neverwinter MMO is a terrible joke answer to the statement of "4e D&D is literally an MMO". They did turn it into an MMO, and it's still terrible.

[naive cedar]

At least Neverwinter is honest about what it is 🤣

[timber turtle]

I wouldn't expect anything good from an awful name like that

[naive cedar]

It was like the only dnd game where you could be a tiefling before bg3 though

[hollow ravine]

Neverwinter is a renowned city and the seat of power for the Neverembers, and I will not have you sully its noble name.

[naive cedar]

Neverwinter > Waterdeep > Baldurs gate > Amn

[hollow ravine]

Dungeons & Dragons Online (very strange MMO game using 3.5e) lets you play a tiefling.

[naive cedar]

and icewind dale >>>>>>>>>>> everyone

[timber turtle]

Why is that city missing a season, are they stupid?

[naive cedar]

Oh ty. Any good?

[reef tundra]

Neverwinter slander shall not stand

[fossil hollow]

As a Canadian, theyre lucky

[reef tundra]

One day I really wanna run a Neverwinter campaign centred around stopping Auril from trying to bring winter to Neverwinter

[timber turtle]

I'm Finnish so same :)

[jaunty wyvern]

Neverwinter Nights is right 💤 💤 💤

[reef tundra]

Sounds fun. Probably has been done before but

[hollow ravine]

It's something lmao. Is it fun? Definitely, but I wouldn't pretend to understand how the game works. It's an action MMO that fully implements 3.5e rules, and you can imagine how that works.

They do have all of the supplements for 3.5e though. Even lets you play as a Warforged, which I'm pretty sure is the only game to let you do that.

[naive cedar]

As a Canadian, same

[jaunty wyvern]

(i love neverwinter btw)

[naive cedar]

Sounds like it’s better than Neverwinter

[fossil hollow]

might be a hot take, but ill take Phandalin or Moonshar isles over any of the city states

[hollow ravine]

Not a very high bar.

[jaunty wyvern]

What about chult

[timber turtle]

Is Neverwinter similar to winterfell

[hollow ravine]

I'd play a 4e survival game set in Dark Sun, which is a terrible time, and it'd still be more engaging than Neverwinter.

[naive cedar]

What IS it about Neverwinter that makes it so mid? Is it the lack of class options? The cheap 2010s Korean mmo graphics? Idk

[jaunty wyvern]

I will not fall for rage bait

[naive cedar]

All I know is I’m glad I can just make a tiefling in bg3 now

[lean wigeon]

what is ddo like

[fossil hollow]

i like dinos, but I dont think i can survive the hot weather there. My filipino genes for heat tolerance have been replaced with cold resistance

[reef tundra]

I prefer the Cold Crown Coast
-# My homebrew region in Faerun. >:) /j

[timber turtle]

Darksun is badass

[lean wigeon]

is it still being supported
like is new content still being made for ddo

[hollow ravine]

Sorta? Illuskans are as evil as the White Walkers, so sort of.

[jaunty wyvern]

Isn't that the place in Pokemon Sword and Shield's dlc

[rough basalt]

I couldn't live in Neverwinter. I like snow too much

[naive cedar]

Same

[fossil hollow]

we cannot be friends any longer

[naive cedar]

Hence why icewind dale >>>>>>>>>>>>

[hollow ravine]

Yes and yes. It still has a very active playerbase.

[naive cedar]

DDO is eberron btw

[rough basalt]

Icewind Dale would be the choice

[jaunty wyvern]

Spongebob me boy, I hope you like inventory management

[rough basalt]

Assuming post-Icewind Dale module

[hollow ravine]

No, they added Faerun and Ravenloft as well.

[hearty bay]

man, I feel like after trying 5 levels of barbarian (3 through seven), I am kinda convinced I'll never enjoy one as much as a caster in dnd

[naive cedar]

Oh interesting

[hollow ravine]

There's Cormyr and Barovia now.

DDO having Vancian magic in an action MMO will never not be funny to me though

[rough basalt]

Nothing more peak than inventory management

[lean wigeon]

it's almost like martials are boring and given an afterthought in class design

[rough basalt]

Nah they're fun and not an afterthought
It's just not everyone will like everything

[hot marlin]

I've always thought barbarian was the least fun of the martials, maybe that's why.

[hollow ravine]

This is only because WotC is cowardly and will never dare to port the Book of Nine Swords to 5e.

Tome of Battle my GOAT

[naive cedar]

Me spending hours as a 7 year old rearranging my inventory in Neverwinter nights to make it aesthetically pleasing

[hearty bay]

I feel barbarian might have the least amount of options in both gameplay and roleplay

[timber turtle]

What would be the best ranger pet to get, so you can sleep on then Totoro style

[lean wigeon]

people will complain it's too anime

[jaunty wyvern]

Im doing one inventory system in my in person game where you get 9 inventory slots in a card and you fill those slots with card you draw yourself

[naive cedar]

I’m gonna make a barbarian who isn’t stupid

[fossil hollow]

its been fighters for me. But ive enjoyed a lot of fighter subclasses

[jaunty wyvern]

impossible

[rough basalt]

Barbarian doesn't have limited roleplay, people just have limited imagination imo

[reef tundra]

Here we go again

[fossil hollow]

Top Ti Martials (that i had fun with):

1. Monk
2. Rogue
3. Barbarian
4. Fighter

[timber turtle]

Kinda like Conan

[lean wigeon]

people i think lean into class too much for roleplay when background i think is just as important, if not more when it comes to your character's... well, character

being a fighter doesn't say much about your character than being a farmer does, imo

[reef tundra]

Every class in the game is fine, it’s just personal preference, nothing objective

If you’ve ever been in a game where one class dominates, you’ve had a bad DM.

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, played with a bugbear giant barbarian, him being a farmer who was just slaughtering an avatar of lolth stood out more than him being big

[hearty bay]

my barbarian goes as far as being an investigator, but precisely due to being a barbarian, the party doesn't take him seriously, and any arc that involves him getting info about the cult we're facing has to almost be shoehorned into the campaign

[jaunty wyvern]

to be fair, fighter is alot more general than like warlock

[hollow ravine]

Or you're just a terrible player. It's one or the other.

[fossil hollow]

basically was just getting rid of the pest

[reef tundra]

Sing it, sister

[hearty bay]

despite that, he went as far as (probably) learning the nature of the curse imposed by the entity worshipped by the cultists

[jaunty wyvern]

I love my dnd chat with sweeping generalizations more of those please

[reef tundra]

Ah dw it happens a lot

[rough basalt]

There's a lot of the community that only acts off of class stereotypes

[hollow ravine]

@the entire bard class

[timber turtle]

Classes shouldnt even be boxes that restrict your character

[hollow ravine]

Bards have a terrible stereotype, and terrible players keep playing into that stereotype.

[rough basalt]

It's aggravating to play a Bard around the "general playerbase" because it's always "oh no he's gonna sedwuce!"

Or all Barbs are Grog from CR

[reef tundra]

Exactly. A class should give you ideas on what to do for your character and their story, not limit you

[knotty pasture]

Singing sea shanties as my personality, Bard edition

[rough basalt]

But without Grogs moments of intelligence that made his character special

[reef tundra]

And his moments of heart

[naive cedar]

Bard who only plays classical music

[karmic pendant]

honestly cr probably is what made both of those stereotypes popular

[jaunty wyvern]

I think its a good practice too look at what the class and subclass does not what the class actually is. A boxer would be a good monk but not actually be a monk you know?

[reef tundra]

A boxer would be a Monk

[jaunty wyvern]

I can see fighter too

[naive cedar]

Imo subclass is just as important as class

[hearty bay]

overall the dm is fine with me being the investigator and has fueled some info to my character, but so far, the moments my party enjoyed to see were, as always, the stereotype

[reef tundra]

I’ve played a Monk who’s a boxer before

[reef tundra]

That is true, actually. Both work very well

[rough basalt]

Yeah keeping the Scanlan seducer stereotype but ignoring the part where he wasn't truly happy being that way and other serious parts of his character

[hearty bay]

and when it comes to combat, my role is often limited to going forward to take damage

[reef tundra]

Such is the life of barbarian

[hearty bay]

specially against cultists, who are all ranged, against a giant barbarian who ain't exactly able to be subtle

[jaunty wyvern]

You could have a sorcerer multiclassed into warlock but never actually BE a warlock if that doesn't align with your story

[reef tundra]

My paladin and the Barb in a campaign I’m in are like, best friends, both at the front, the shields of the party, the ones to take the beating together

[knotty pasture]

And past a certain point it just sucks to run in first, I thought I was tough shit as an Ancestral Barb until I rushed in first, got focus fired, and was left with 20% hp...

So I spent the rest of the fight throwing javelins instead, life is not good

[hearty bay]

I mean, if all I can do in combat is to take 3 rounds of damage and fall, I'd rather just play anything else, really

[reef tundra]

And that’s valid. Not every class suits every person

[hearty bay]

my party doesn't have a healer or someone who can support me into doing that, and it's not like 16 AC does much to protect me

[reef tundra]

I would rather die than play a wizard again, and that’s okay. We all have our different ways we want to play

[hearty bay]

optimizing barbarian gameplay also leans on something that isn't really the fantasy of a barbarian

[reef tundra]

Oof, yeah not having a healer would hurt

[rough basalt]

Any time I wanna play something else, a paladin character appears in my mind

[reef tundra]

The call to paladin is one hard to resist

[hearty bay]

neither a healer or a proper buffer, since the one buff they give me is enlarge, so the large barbarian becomes huge

[rough basalt]

Tho the character I currently have in mind might be better suited as a fighter

[hearty bay]

and a huge barbarian is a walking target

at 16 AC and no magic items at level 7

[jaunty wyvern]

I think bard aligns with my playstyle moreso than my actual "main" but druids are so versatile

[hearty bay]

it takes 2-3 rounds at most, even distributing damage

[fossil hollow]

dnd combat is assuming 3 rounds of combat on average

[reef tundra]

Shout out to the time my paladin and the Barb shared drinks mid combat

[hearty bay]

our combats often go way longer than 3 rounds

[fossil hollow]

i did say average

[hearty bay]

my barbarian first fell at level 5

and since then, he tends to be the first to fall

[rough basalt]

They're a duel wielder so the BA economy is gonna be a tad rough, but I think it'll be more fun as a paladin

[hearty bay]

midway into level 8, that ceased to be interesting, since I don't even have that big of a damage potential anymore

[reef tundra]

Yeah, it happens a lot. But it’s alright, it seems like second or back line classes would suit you more

[hearty bay]

I've had an oneshot as a level 3 wizard

being able to interact with the world without an invisible ruler at my neck

[reef tundra]

I will never play a wizard again. So fragile… /lh

[hearty bay]

yeah, got hit once and half my hp was gone

but even then, I put the fear of god through my strikes while also being able to interact with the environment

[reef tundra]

I really wanted to up my wisdom and charisma because that’s the character I was playing, but I just had to put a few more points into dex and con, I felt so vulnerable

[past latch]

shoutout to my monk who survived more damage than our paladin through being a dodge tank

[hearty bay]

and do my roleplay without having this ruler telling me "you gotta punch someone's throat, you're a barbarian after all"

I think I could play a barbarian in a different table

[reef tundra]

you don’t have to play barbarian

If you don’t want to

The way of the Barb is not for everyone.

[hearty bay]

I'll see how the end of this questline goes. if it doesn't work, I'll swap into some defensive wizard

[naive cedar]

some people expect clerics to act like anime healer girls -_-

[fossil hollow]

funnily enough, out of the three wizards ive played.

The one i liked the most is the gish bladesinger one i got

[fossil hollow]

clearly theyve never seen war priests. FOR SPARTA

[reef tundra]

The urge to bonk is eternal

[naive cedar]

EXACTLY.

[reef tundra]

Shout out to the time a party member whined at my drow war domain cleric for not healing them 24/7

[hearty bay]

the thing I like about wizard is that you can be this erudite who has means to analyze everything, but when push comes to shove, you can just scream FIREBAAAAAALLLLL from the top of your lungs

[fossil hollow]

"You can get your healing when you can show me youre not going to get hurt as often. You need to build character."

[reef tundra]

Ending combat sooner made up for it

[hearty bay]

imagine a 70 something y.o. diviner who warned young wizards about the importance of a good sleep schedule

[reef tundra]

“Why waste time fixing you when we can just break the enemy first?”

[hearty bay]

deciding to singlehandedly deal half of a rogue's life in damage through two rounds

[past latch]

FOR THE EMPEROR!

[knotty pasture]

Its either anime healer girl or bootleg beyblade after level 5

[fossil hollow]

how the hell is SG beyblade

[naive cedar]

I’ll take bootleg beyblade

[timber turtle]

Only wizard I would would be enchanter to be that manipulating witch

[past latch]

the best way to heal damage is kill everything before they can hurt you

[reef tundra]

Diviner wizards, my bae

[hearty bay]

I liked diviner, which was my variant of elderly wizard

[naive cedar]

Do people like enchanters? I like enchanting

[hearty bay]

was considering abjurer next

[reef tundra]

-# Isn’t that what I said /lh

[hearty bay]

to become the lord of no

[reef tundra]

Diviner wizard is the only thing that makes me want to play wizard again

[hearty bay]

which honestly would be helpful to our party

[naive cedar]

Abjuration is so funny

[past latch]

reemphasizing for impact

[timber turtle]

It's the goat of non combat power

[naive cedar]

Someone gets it!!!

[hearty bay]

diviner was insanely good for roleplay

[fossil hollow]

"Damage now is less damage later."

• JoCrap

[reef tundra]

Works for me. Let’s do this

[hollow ravine]

I've been banned from playing clerics in 3.5e because my friends tell me I get a god complex lmao

[hearty bay]

the wizard coven gave us some shady magical item, which we wouldn't know what it was about, then I spent 10 mins studying it through identify, to determine it was a special kind of trap

[hollow ravine]

It's probably true for most cleric players.

[naive cedar]

You deserve it

[jaunty wyvern]

I had an illusionist I worked with as the dm to pull of some really stupid shenanigans

[past latch]

but we all play cleric to have a god complex

[hearty bay]

play a canine kobold cleric, just to say you'll play with a dog complex

[reef tundra]

“The power of life and death… in my hands…”

[knotty pasture]

Play Druid instead

[reef tundra]

”I do not control who stays alive, I am the one that controls who dies…”

[past latch]

"you die when i say so"

[reef tundra]

I’ve only played cleric 3 times, and honestly the three clerics I’ve played cannot be more different

[hearty bay]

so, my dms confirmed that the wizard and barbarian campaigns happen within the same universe

I could play some more diviner wizard, give my nostradamus inkyquill a second run

(inkyquill comes from being a scribe)

[past latch]

that's like naming a barb bloodysword /j

[hearty bay]

well yes, I like those stereotypical names from dnd

[jaunty wyvern]

dip cleric or get magic initiate for thaumaturgy and you could scam the whole world with divinations

[past latch]

kinda unfortunate imagining them as a child and having their entire lifeplan already set for them, like how all xaviers grow up to be skateboarders

[hearty bay]

3 level dip into giant barbarian for thaumaturgy

[fossil hollow]

You

[hearty bay]

he could have been the first of his name. 50 years of being a scribe would've done that

[past latch]

family dynasty of scribes

[hearty bay]

then, at the height of his life (72 years old), he decides to get back into adventuring and becomes a wizard

[reef tundra]

Shout out to my character named Eclipse Moonvarr… who hated the moon

[past latch]

robert robertson the third ahh

[past latch]

i could imagine why

[glossy otter]

Well, I went looking into becoming a dm for my college and now there's a chance I might end up on their esports staff because of it lol

[reef tundra]

Power

[past latch]

get that dub bro, congrats

[hearty bay]

I mean, once when playing solasta, I've named my would be paladin "john solasta" and had the wildest stat spread ever right after (6 flat d20s, lowest roll was 13)

[glossy otter]

Now I can be officially sponsored to traumatize PC's lol

[hearty bay]

have them face a white rabbit

the thing under tarrasque's bed

[jaunty wyvern]

I had a werewolf char that doesn't believe in the moon

[past latch]

atleast give them a chance by leaving a holy hand grenade

[glossy otter]

I'm not sure how they're going to handle campaigns if they've got stuff prepared or if they're letting DM's improvise

[hearty bay]

the holy hand grenade would be thrown at themselves, to ensure their souls depart to the right place

[glossy otter]

Eh, I feel i'd get a flesh wound trying to claim it for a monster in one of my dungeons

[past latch]

would make sure to not hit the white rabbit otherwise it might wait for me in the afterlife

[hearty bay]

it would stop you in the road to the afterlife

you'd see the scales that decide where your soul departs. a feather in one side, your heart in the other. As you think your heart is lighter than the feather, the rabbit jumps in, tipping the scales. You wake up on tiamat's lap

and she ain't friendly about it

[jaunty wyvern]

this is what happens to venger every time he dies

[past latch]

might ask me the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow before i can pass the pearly gates

[glossy otter]

After dying in the most metal ways, like having flames take on his shape and colours

That does remind me, I do wonder what they're planning with him

[jaunty wyvern]

planning? dudes just an icon

[glossy otter]

Wotc mentioned he was either going to be in or having his own module at some point

[jaunty wyvern]

I wanted to do a custom campaign with him as a villain so im excited to see how they characterize him

[wanton sorrel]

0_0 thief created!!!!! level 1 and max level is 12 (first edition rule book)

[unborn lotus]

Can I create a campaign to share the books I've bought if I don't have D&D beyond premium or whatever it's called?

[jaunty wyvern]

i think content sharing requires premium

[wanton sorrel]

i feel like 3.5e was easy making a character... not sure about 5e, 2e, 4e

[jaunty wyvern]

4e mentioned

[silent ore]

I feel like 2e would be the easiest, then 5e. I'm not really sure about 4e, but it is still probably easier than 3.5.

[sonic quiver]

gentle reminder that it's also against the terms of service to share content outside of games 🙂

[wanton sorrel]

it took me about 3 to 4 hours on my thief for first editon... on a PDF file.

[naive cedar]

2e is p easy imo

[unborn lotus]

How do you mean?

[sonic quiver]

sharing content just to share content is against TOS. It's assumed that the people in your campaign are people you're going to be playing D&D with.

[marble lion]

Salespeople when you own a physical book and show it to a friend

[tacit pike]

So sharing with people in your campaign is fine?

[sonic quiver]

Yeah. To put it more simply:
✅ sharing content with people you're going to play a game with
🚫 saying to the world wide internet: "i own all the content on DDB; here is a campaign code for anyone who wants to use them to join and make characters"

[wanton sorrel]

So 1e is the hardest then?

[unborn lotus]

Ah yeah, I was aware of that. Was asking with the intention to share to players.

[sonic quiver]

gotcha! sorry for misinterpreting. then yeah, you'd need to be a master tier subscriber to do that.

[jaunty wyvern]

like roll20 and foundry?

[unborn lotus]

They're warning you in advance so you have time to prepare haha
You can all export your character sheets and switch to paper for a session

Any class or character can work on a plain text sheet, and basically every service has a dice bot you can use, heck if you're completely techless just use the Google dice roller and cast your screen in discord

[timid anvil]

You can always download your character sheet as a pdf as well

[unborn lotus]

Also you don't have to switch to paper, if your group can handle a better solution then try importing to roll20 just for that one session

Or another third party compatible manager

Just make sure you do your prep in advance, DDB has given you and your group plenty of warning

[glossy otter]

So, how's everyone tonight?

[jaunty wyvern]

Who wants to see how many level 1 bards with nothing but vicious mockery it takes to kill strahd

i want to see him suffer again

[north hawk]

Where can I find server rules and policies and stuff? I found the FAQ but that wasn't very helpful.

[jaunty wyvern]

the rules tab right above learn to play

id imagine

[humble cairn]

Here https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/1133102807675850924

[north hawk]

Thanks. I had the channel disabled for some reason so I couldn't see it.

[unborn lotus]

Anybody can join you 😅
They just shouldn't use DDB to create their character, or if they do they need to make an export.

That being said all this is stuff your DM probably needs to worry about more then you as they'll be hosting the game for everyone

[marble lion]

They can just use the free sheet and fill it out

I exclusively play with manual sheets and a new player could do that, then transcribe it over to ddb later

[supple skiff]

i have a weird topic of discussion for yall
do yall think interplayer friendships and ties is something that can truly be built in a oneshot, or things of minimal episodes?

[eager marsh]

a single one shot between prior strangers? not really normally

[humble cairn]

To clarify you mean "player" as the people at your game table? Or do you mean the player characters? the answer would be yes for either, I think.

[supple skiff]

PCs

[humble cairn]

But in my games prefer to have players build their characters together at Session 0 and create shared history together in their backstories, so they know each other before the game starts.

[eager marsh]

oh if you mean the characters then yea. I've done that plenty of times in character

[humble cairn]

So PCs can start out as friends.

[marble lion]

characters can absolutely get friendly in a oneshot

usually its gonna be in a bit of a comedic "i love this guy" or "yas queen" kinda way

nothing too deep, just hype

[wanton sorrel]

i'm glad i didn't do wizard or sorrceror at this time... or any other magic classes... it might of took me another 4 more hours T_T

[marble lion]

yeah it can take a while but if its just a oneshot you can just look up popular spells and bring them for the session

if youre low level that is. if youre high level, it would take some time for sure

[wanton sorrel]

D&D like video games vs pen and papper is a big difference.

[humble cairn]

Indeed

[wanton sorrel]

now i truly understand why you don't want to die x'D

[knotty pasture]

Once you break down spell options it usually just comes back down to a selective few super good ones as your foundation

And a few other spells that are whatever depending on the campaign itself

[jaunty wyvern]

pick intaglio 100% of the time I promise it will be good

[wanton sorrel]

I think my head might expload from reading dungeon masters guide

no it's the first edition from the 1977

[empty thicket]

imagine me that my DM had sent me the Ryoko guide book to read for a campaign in march

that is some sort of DnD but around asian folklore or smt like that

[wanton sorrel]

dang

[empty thicket]

Fortunately i understand some stuff already but it have a whole combo thing that you can do with your allies and more stuff

[vague bison]

Anyone's dnd beyond not working on pc

[unborn lotus]

Ok everyone: hit me with your distinction between acrobatics and athletics

[fossil hollow]

Gymnastics vs Long Jumping

[fossil hollow]

#ddb-support

[timid current]

acrobatics: balancing (narrow passages, treacherous ground)
athletics: traversal (climbing, swimming, running)

oh, athletics is also good for lifting and pushing etc when needed

[fossil hollow]

(but both are part of parkour)

[timid current]

okay. but the climbing, jumping, and traversal parts of parkour are athletics, balancing on narrow bits is acrobatics

[jaunty wyvern]

people who do parkour are in fact both acrobatic and athletic yes

[timid current]

I don't know why that's a "but" lol

[unborn lotus]

Interesting. So you'd never allow acrobatics to climb something at your table?

[fossil hollow]

i would, if a player explained their reasoning

I can see someone gymnasting their way up

[unborn lotus]

A player can always explain their reasoning to interchange the two though it's pretty easy.
That's why DMs need to distinguish them to punish dumping one

[north hawk]

I would in most situations. Sometimes I think athletics or acrobatics can work for a situation.

[unborn lotus]

See this is the problem, at most tables you only need one 😅

[jaunty wyvern]

I always ask a player “how” they use the stat to do it and if they can justify it, I let them use it

Does wonders for player creativity

[fossil hollow]

i do the same with requests for another stat with that same skill

e.g., someone wants to do Intelligence/Strength (Indimitation)

[unborn lotus]

Investigation/Perception is also tricky

[timid current]

I mean climbing is literally using your strength to pull you up a surface

[fossil hollow]

eh. Investigation is using clues to piece together what happened. Perception is just. What you physically see

[timid current]

strength literally only has one skill attached, and everyone who wants to dumpstat it just pretends acrobatics covers it

[unborn lotus]

If I am searching for something you'd say roll perception?

[fossil hollow]

yes

[unborn lotus]

So when would I roll investigation?

[eager marsh]

investigation is not piecing clues together. that's insight

[fossil hollow]

Insight is reading someone else

[eager marsh]

It's both

[timid current]

I wouldn't allow acrobatics for climbing. or, conversely, if they absolutely had to, I'd make them make a strength: acrobatics roll. you can't do it without strength though.

but even then, athletics covers the skills used for climbing

[fossil hollow]

Wisdom (Insight) allows you to discern a person’s mood and intentions.

Intelligence (Investigation) allows you to find obscure information in books, or deduce how something works.

Wisdom (Perception) allows you to use a combination of senses to notice something that’s easy to miss.

[north hawk]

That's a good way to do it.

[timid current]

that's why climbing is listed in athletics.

acrobatics could be not falling off if you've managed to get to a narrow ledge or something

[fossil hollow]

Insight is for people

[fossil hollow]

as seen here

... dammit, im getting 504s now

[jaunty wyvern]

I use the passive skills like so if it makes it easier for anyone to understand: Investigation is left brain, Insight is right brain and perception is in between

[fossil hollow]

perception is your back lobe :x

[jaunty wyvern]

I flavor them as so in my descriptions

[fossil hollow]

(im being literal here lol, iirc, perception is the back of your brain)

[timid current]

if you can acrobatics to climb or swim or jump, then you can athletics to perceive

[jaunty wyvern]

Investigation or insight will get you more if you use them appropriately and perception is the safe option, getting less but lower DC

[wanton sorrel]

sighs i love chaotic evil

[jaunty wyvern]

Said the hellbeast

[wanton sorrel]

punch the npc to 0 health then let the healer heal them... then keep punching the guy until they give us answers

[timid current]

cool fantasy

[sudden knot]

Okay good not just me

[wanton sorrel]

oh right i thought DND beyond is updating

[sudden knot]

might be honestly I don't keep up with it enough

[fossil hollow]

maintenance isnt set until next week.

[empty thicket]

cant do it, most of kingdoms have rules for that

[sudden knot]

I can get into the character creation and that it's just the books I'm having issues with

[wanton sorrel]

don't worry it'll be in the sewers where no one will find them.

[fossil hollow]

im seeing the same issues here. (the mods and team should be aware of it by now, lots of peeps in #ddb-support popped in)

[sudden knot]

And there's the acknowledgement. Glad to see they're on top of it

[wanton sorrel]

ah ok...

[sudden knot]

I can get into the books again :D

that was quick

[warm summit]

Damn officer, you don't gotta do em like that

[wanton sorrel]

toturing a poor soul is chaotic evil and still make them live.

[sudden knot]

death yoyoing an NPC for answers is certainly a choice

[wanton sorrel]

if i told the DM that i was trying to get fastest xp to my character... I wonder what they would say.

[timid current]

it sounds like the kind of thing that weird 15 year old kid who wrecks up his sister's dolls would do before being asked to leave a campaign

unhinged behaviour, kid needs to re evaluate what they're doing playing a heroic fantasy game

[wanton sorrel]

lol x'D

[fossil hollow]

"we use milestone"

[timid current]

imagine having the entirety of the D&D rules to do any kind of cool stuff and you just sit there devising tortures

[unborn lotus]

So from this I would suggest searching for something should be investigation.

[warm summit]

Edgelords want attention, best thing you can do is ignore them tbh

[fossil hollow]

what

[unborn lotus]

Does anybody know what the update is?
Is it routine maintenance or will they finally implement 2024 content properly?

[cosmic roost]

No pings, please :pray:

If you see someone with “No Pings” in their name, please don’t @ that user. If you Reply to them, please turn the alert @OFF, and if you forget, a simple apology is appreciated. Thank you!

[north hawk]

I read it was just performance updates for high traffic volume.

[unborn lotus]

Fair enough

[wanton sorrel]

just think of killing vecna resotring his 1-4 hp and killing him just to get more xp out of him before leaving a session

[timid current]

anyway, there's so many things you can do in D&D, torture for the fun of it sounds like a quick way to be invited to leave my table lol

[fossil hollow]

not how XP works

[wanton sorrel]

true.

[north hawk]

Also you're probably already level 20 if you're fighting Vecna.

[wanton sorrel]

yeah you might be right.

[north hawk]

I will say I have played in one evil campaign and it was a lot of fun, but that was back when I was younger and we were all a bunch of rable rousers.

[unborn lotus]

There literally cannot be cheese in D&D you have a human there who enforces the system

[north hawk]

We essentially were a gang of Nagas reigning terror under the ocean.

[unborn lotus]

Evil campaigns need a lot of ground rules to work, the big one being why are the players even working together? Completely selfish and backstabbing characters generally are not fun to play with in D&D at all

[woven flint]

I mean, evil organizations and such do exist in media and in real life.

[unborn lotus]

And most players who want to play evil characters aren't mature enough to play them in a way that's fun for the table.

[timid current]

yeah. if you have someone giggling about torturing folks it's probably going to wear thin real quick

[north hawk]

Yeah I can agree with that. Though the game I was in we were all content just following orders from a evil queen and devising ruthless plans.

That game didn't last too long though.

[severe rampart]

I think that's what other players in my campaign try to do, my poor human ranger has to be the one taking the eldritch blasts for old ladies

[woven flint]

Your character deserves it for being human /joking

[wanton sorrel]

maybe i should try be more true neutrual than chaotic evil

[severe rampart]

He's just a man ba dun tiss🥁

[timid current]

maybe you'll find a table that matches your freak

[north hawk]

Come to the light side.

[wanton sorrel]

i'm now 100% convinced

[severe rampart]

I think I'm too far into the light, I am lawful good

The bar is in hell

[woven flint]

I have to semi-evil characters of my own, both take themselves and their goals quite seriously

[unborn lotus]

Try lawful good for 100 hours first

[woven flint]

One is an Alchemist Artificer who wants to make an exploitative medical system and find a way to bend elementals to his will

And the Other is a Berserker Barbarian who wants to conquer hell in the name of Bane

[timid current]

evil characters can work just fine

[wanton sorrel]

so a paladin?

[timid current]

evil-stupid is where it gets bad

[humble cairn]

Meh, ignore Alignment and write a solid Personality.

[unborn lotus]

Nah class and alignment are unrelated assuming you're playing 5e

Ophid is the true wisdom here

[humble cairn]

I much prefer using PBIF (Personality, Bonds, Ideals, Flaws) to Alignment anyway.

[wanton sorrel]

I always thought alignment was personality well at least part of it.

[unborn lotus]

I love that system but I also get why they removed it... It only works at a specific type of game and the amount of time I saw it being used improperly was rough

[humble cairn]

Officially it's not even a part of your character. It just describes your past decisions and actions.

[jaunty wyvern]

True it makes you immune to the book of vile darkness and book of exalted deeds

[wanton sorrel]

oh dang.... i guess i thought of it all wrong...

[unborn lotus]

If you play 2024 they brought it back in a small way

At least more back than 2014

[humble cairn]

Alignment?

[jaunty wyvern]

?? 2024 like scrapped alignment what

[humble cairn]

No, it didn't.

2024 doesn't use PBIF (Personality, Bonds, Ideals, Flaws)

[jaunty wyvern]

I don’t remember reading anything about it then

[unborn lotus]

Yeah, in 2014 it was an afterthought, based on your more extensive bonds flaws etc.

Now alignment is a whole step of character creation, you actually pick one for your character and there's rules in the glossary for when and how it can change

[idle oar]

Alignment is very alive and well in 2024 but PBIF is a more nuanced and honestly more accurate way to reflect a characters "self".

[unborn lotus]

And they have a bigger description of each alignment and examples of creatures

[humble cairn]

The framework was great, the explanation not so much. PBIF works great when applied like so:
**Personality **- The default emotional “stance” of your character or their standing animation at the character select screen, if you will. This is how your character generally behaves when nothing else is going on.
**Bonds **- The people, places, and things that are important to your character, either good or bad. These are the connection points between your character and the game world, very important for integrating the character and the plot.
**Ideals **- These are your character’s ethics. This is where you state how your character believes people should behave.
**Flaws **- These are your character’s blind spots or things that plague your character in a way that drives the story forward and makes the plot more interesting, a built-in conflict generator. Usually they will be a kind of weakness in your mindset, but it can be anything else that consistently obstructs your character’s life.

[jaunty wyvern]

I swear im getting mandela-effected ive read that book like 5 times now

One sec

[unborn lotus]

Oh it's a great system and super clever, something out of a different RPG almost, when you read the DMG and realise it's also supposed to apply to NPCs and stuff it's real brilliance unfolds

[humble cairn]

Here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character#Step4ChooseanAlignment

[jaunty wyvern]

Wtf ive gone insane i just found it

[unborn lotus]

It's explained badly but it's basically a whole system for character interaction

[humble cairn]

Radiant Citadel uses it for NPCs and it's just awesome how much better it works than alignment for actually running NPCs.

[unborn lotus]

It's just, many tables couldn't or didn't want to make use of it and it took up a lot of space on the character sheet 🤔
When they were poorly written out or an afterthought to players I actually think it did more harm than good at least when I look back at my own games

It's a mechanic for a specific type of game and table and I think that's why they moved away from it for 5e2 to a more general "just think of a personality" system

[humble cairn]

I'm still salty about that.

[hidden spindle]

I like using the d4 personality traits from the alignments & ability scores

[unborn lotus]

I was at the time but I've come around by realising how little I actually miss it when I play 😅

Also random hot take but flaw never worked. It was too big of a component (one of the 4 pillars of a characters personality) that had too many players half assing it and then having to roleplay something unfun for themselves or others

Like the amount of either alcoholic or "I don't notice others feelings" players I had to play with in 5e that wouldn't have made that type of character otherwise is staggering

[humble cairn]

I find that people limited themselves only to personal mental or social flaws when it could be so much more.

[warm summit]

I think a couple paragraphs in the right place of the PHB could've worked better than trying to make bonds/flaws part of a character sheet

[unborn lotus]

I actually love these haha
3 traits for how you look and 4 traits for who you are

[humble cairn]

And the point of all of these were to make thing more interesting and fun for everyone at the table. Once you establish that mindset it gets better. Which is also why I really preferred people to make characters at Session 0 instead of before.

[unborn lotus]

It's more bare bones but I actually think it sometimes inspires more creativity, I always roll them for my characters and try to them weave them into my more nuanced descriptions

[unborn lotus]

Yeah perhaps they could've been relegated to advice or an optional rule rather than scorched earth in 2024.
I do think basically having no nuanced social mechanics in 2024 is one of its major failings

Honestly I have so much equal praise and criticism for the PTIBF system haha
Looking at it after a few years of really investing in 2024 I do think it probably did more harm than good at my tables.
But when you go and actually read the rules it's like arcane knowledge, the book starts to glow as you read it, it's so simple yet deep

[humble cairn]

Mostly because it's a self written guide to your own character rather than an externally imposed 9x9 grid of vague and useless descriptors.

You write your own guidelines and then you change them as the game goes on, giving you a record of all your character changes from the game.

[unborn lotus]

The ability to take on new bonds was always awesome, it really felt like a major story moment to be like "this is part of my characters motivation now"

Ideal was your alignment, just with better nuance

[wanton sorrel]

hmmm I wonder what people favorite D&D module

[jaunty wyvern]

Humblewood is so peak

[frigid hedge]

im only here for a very niche/specific question if anyone can answer?
what is the campaign mike wheeler is playing in the ||last scene of stranger things||

[wanton sorrel]

ok I think it was with eddie right?

[frigid hedge]

nope last scene of the show

[wanton sorrel]

so season 5

[frigid hedge]

yup!

oops i found it nvm yall 😭

[wanton sorrel]

it's was i think called the Hunt for the Thessalhydra

[tepid basalt]

in what scenario would a pipe of smoking monsters be useful

[wanton sorrel]

idk

[dry hollow]

I just wanted to say im playing D&D and am on my 5th game over the spand of two months and I love it

[wanton sorrel]

what how?

[dry hollow]

i mean my 5th session

[wanton sorrel]

oh dang...

[dry hollow]

I play Sorceroer

@wanton sorrel do u play?

[wanton sorrel]

i do... but not on pen or pencil yet... i did play dungeons and dragons online.... but i noticed some of the modules on dungeon and dragons online are first editions. so at least some of them kind of are.

[dry hollow]

do you think online is better than a practical game?

like i bet its better for attention span🤷‍♂️

[wanton sorrel]

I don't know never joined a party of people before on a dice roll D&D....

[dry hollow]

soooo you never played D&D with people

[wanton sorrel]

nope

[dry hollow]

u only played a "simulator"?

[wanton sorrel]

i did learn one thing though... no one likes chatoic evil

well dungeon and dragons online is a video game.... I never went table top before.

[dry hollow]

ngl its hard to find people to play with and meetups are a lil hard to do bc everyone has different lives etc

[dry hollow]

ohhh Baldurs Gate 3?

ive geard great things about it!

[wanton sorrel]

i did play that... but my friends refunded it becuase it was too punishing.... and i never touched that ever again.

i did play pathfinder but it was single player so >.>

[dry hollow]

so u can play it with friends online?

(Baldurs Gate 3)

[wanton sorrel]

yeah but my friends decided to do something else.. and they never came back to me... because they don't like those turn base games.

[dry hollow]

that honest sounds fun af tbh

gaming and D&D best of both worlds

[wanton sorrel]

I do want to become a DM... but i might have second thoughts on it.

[dry hollow]

DM sounds like a lot of work/planning 😅

[vale sequoia]

Hello everyone I’m new to the dnd community I just created my level 1 character on dnd beyond and I’m excited to start this adventure I’m currently trying to find a dm online cuz unfortunately I can’t find anyone to play near me is it possible to be in campaigns via online or discord?

[wanton sorrel]

well... i been a writer since 2017

[dry hollow]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/1070720656917938227

[reef copper]

Its more like people think chaotic evil means murder hobo and such most of them are. Mostly nobody likes murder hobos. Ofcorse chaotic evil is not a alignment most would like either way.

[rare oar]

What is the spell called where your soul occupies an enemy's body and theirs is trapped a gem?

[reef copper]

Soul jar

[rare oar]

Thank you!

Magic Jar, but you just about got it. I kept searching for Gem and Vessel and just couldn't find it.

[reef copper]

Ah my b. Glad i was close enough

[rare oar]

It's such an OP spell if you can do it to a powerful opponent.

[reef copper]

It is realy good for shure. Imagine being a caster casualy stealing one of the vast amount of solder bodies everytime their previous corpse dies

Average stat becomes like 16+

normal average should be around 12 btw

[wanton sorrel]

soul jar?

maybe first edition is trap soul

[eager marsh]

Magic Jar is the spell and it’s generally not applicable in practical cases to posses most massively strong hosts

[reef copper]

Magic jar, i should have looked it up before posting. Thats what i remembered it as on top of my head

[rare oar]

The combo is... cast magic jar and then catapult the gem... the target is guaranteed to die so long as they fail the save against magic jar.

[eager marsh]

And risk killing yourself at the same time?

[wanton sorrel]

oh magic jar is a 5th level spells for magic users

[rare oar]

There is no risk since your soul just goes back to your original body.

[reef copper]

5th edition 6lvl spell

[wanton sorrel]

oh dang... that's rough

[eager marsh]

Ah sorry it’s a verbose spell I mixed up conditions. Anyways possessing random soldiers is pretty mediocre

[rare oar]

Magic Jar comes with a big restriction though, it only works on humanoids.

[wanton sorrel]

Trap the soul is a 8th level spell (first edition)

[eager marsh]

It’s roundabout but that can be bypassed

[rare oar]

The best use is to cast it, trap the opponent's soul, and them remove the gem over 100 feet from the enemy's body, and then release the spell (no action required). They automatically die.

[sleek grotto]

Since I’m quite new and just had my very first session I need to know, how often do people see someone gets a Nat 1 (-1) = 0 on a DC roll? Cos that’s what’s just happened to my friend and the party could not stop laughing😂

[reef copper]

If your body is whitin 100ft i think

[eager marsh]

That’s a lot of work to kill someone. Anyone strong has legendary actions. Also you lock yourself out of doing anything until someone else gets the gem close

[eager marsh]

About 5% of the time they roll a d20 and they have a -1 modifier

[wanton sorrel]

yeah i'm reading trap the soul i think that's the spell you were looking for...

[rare oar]

You can stand 60 feet away casting the spell, so the enemy's soul is already 60 feet from the original body... then just one more bit is required to move it another 40+ feet... you can even action surge, run over, throw the gem manually, and THEN release the spell. It's really not a big stretch to kill someone in a single turn. But again, you have to manage to get them to fail the save, and it only works on humanoids. BIG restriction.

[eager marsh]

Spell had a one minute cast time just so you know

Also legendary resistance will apply on anything actually dangerously strong enough to warrant this

[wanton sorrel]

I wonder if dragons are 10th level creatures

[eager marsh]

Dragons are dragons.

Creatures, monsters, and NPCs do not have ‘levels’ by default

[wanton sorrel]

ah...

[rare oar]

Monsters' strength is very roughly measured with CR (challenge rating), but CR is a very poor approximation. There is no consistent and reliable actual measurement. Though you'll usually find that CR is usually roughly equivalent to a highly optimized player character build that's maybe 1 or 2 levels higher than the CR.

[wanton sorrel]

I was just reading monster summoning VII level 8 monster... shrugs I think it was 9th level spell.

[lapis radish]

If I’m playing 2024 rules, and I want to make a luchador character would Monk or Barbarian be best?

[humble cairn]

That sounds like a spell from an older edition, this server mainly discusses Fifth Edition.

[wanton sorrel]

yeap. sounds about right...

[lapis radish]

I was thinking monk Drunken Master

[tepid onyx]

there ain't no water druid subclass yet?

[tight kite]

Hello

[glass granite]

There’s the Circle of the Sea in the 2024 PHB

[humble cairn]

As Nugget mentioned, there's Circle of the Sea, but there's also Circle of the Land if you concentrate on Coast.

Ahh, Coast isn't in 2024.

[past latch]

could work ig if you wanna roleplay steve austin, but not exactly a luchador

iirc way of the elements gets flight

could be good to crossbody a few goblins

[rare oar]

Monk is very strong since you can use dex for grapples and can then dump strength, although it does require wisdom. BUT open hand also has some awesome moves knocking things prone.
On the other hand, if you want to make a strength based Luchador that carries a shield, you can grab shield master to both attack AND knock things prone or shove as part of one attack per turn (quite strong), so there's a lot of ways to go.

[tepid onyx]

cool

[lapis radish]

I was also looking at barbarian as well

[past latch]

flavor the shield as a steel chair

[rare oar]

Hahaha, totally works, flavor is free!

[lapis radish]

I’ve just seen a 3 Barb 3 bard combo for expertise so you can grapple and shove enemies into permanent advantages for your team

[past latch]

make beowulf but in dnd

[rare oar]

Are you thinking 2024 rules or 2014?

[past latch]

barb would actually fit for him

[rare oar]

Cuz in 2024, the only part of grappling that uses skill checks is escaping a grapple.

[lapis radish]

Ah

[rare oar]

You unarmed strike (grapple).
The enemy makes a strength or dex save (their choice) to try to prevent it.
They have to beat your escape dc: 8 + proficiency + strength modifier (there's exceptions to the strength modifier, monk uses dex, astral monk uses wisdom).

[chilly narwhal]

DnD makes me happy because it’s so simple compared to war hammer

[woven flint]

I'm very excited for an upcoming campaign I'm in
My Barbarian is in the Zhentarim and The Fighter was in the Flaming Fist
Two groups that hate eachother VERY much..
I can't wait to see how much they argue or how badly they want to kill eachother lmao

[tight kite]

Ive not played dnd in agess

[chilly narwhal]

Like I can read dnd lore and be like "yeah good, let’s go"

[woven flint]

I love reading Lore.
Just lore in general
One day I hope to be a loremaster /joking

[lapis radish]

Wait so do unarmed strike grapple do damage or its making an unarmed strike to see if they are grappled

[chilly narwhal]

I pull out a war hammer book and cross reference from 4 other novels to get an understanding of something needlessly complex and I’m like "wow, I need another 8 of these novels. This is so amazing, I love the gameplay." I don’t even play the game that much. DnD I play

[rare oar]

I mean, it's your player's responsibility to have a reason to be in the party, "playing nice", unless you allow people to be antagonistic within the party, but that's usually not advisable.
So you could make them half or somewhat aware of "if antagonistic dynamics or conflicting interests arise, you'll need to prioritize the intra-party alliance. Your character needs to have a reason to do so."