dnd-discussion

[hot marlin]

Apologize of course, but 35 hours without sleep is a lot

[lost flicker]

I'm aware, again, I have Insomnia

[solid spruce]

Technically every spell in dnd

[real mirage]

maybe set an alarm or two anyway just in case you do crash, or you could skip the session in favour of attempting to sleep

[lost flicker]

Not all at the same time but yes hypothetically

[solid spruce]

Yeah

[lost flicker]

Got that covered, I'm not skipping the session though

[real mirage]

then good luck soldier

[remote wadi]

I could bore you to sleep talking about things /js

[deft pine]

Night shift and working weekends makes dnd a pain in the ass lowkey

[remote wadi]

I'm just hoping this job for me is Mon-Thurs
5:30-5:30 is painful, but I didn't have anything for those days anyways

[real mirage]

at least yall have sessions of some kind, im still trying to find something that works with my sleep schedule

[lost flicker]

The worst part about it is that I can willingly throw the concept of sleep out the window in favor of getting some work done, but if I do I won't be getting any sleep, and if I don't I have no clue how long I'll still be up for that I could be spending getting work done before I crash

[remote wadi]

Perhaps I can give advice in dms? Or just rambling about things to help you unwind?

[deft pine]

Im the forgefather's sleepiest dwarf

[upper lintel]

Im the actual animated dnd show the Vox of machina the main bard character had a key. and any door he put the key in inside. that door becomes anything he imagines inside it . Like for example the group had go so he put key In a broken door laying on the ground and it open to a mansion of all there dreams for them to step into. 10 out 10 show tbh its on amazon prime.

[solid spruce]

Damn right brother

[lost flicker]

That's alright hun, I'll get it figured out, it's just annoying to deal with

[upper lintel]

Thought this was genius

[lost flicker]

It's my first session in like 4 months which probably is inducing some anxiety keeping me awake

[solid spruce]

Hmmmmm

[deft pine]

Sometimes I take pre-workout just to be awake at the table. With the shit that makes your skin tingle

[lost flicker]

I've watched it, it's not that anything he imagines appears inside, it's that he has a mansion that he can access from any door with that specific key

The magic comes from the item in that case not the bard

[solid spruce]

I have found that intense workout are a great way to get some sleep, but it does take time in the day

[remote wadi]

It also isn't always available to everyone. Me, for example

But hey, I already have the build and stature of a dwarf anyways, so working out wouldn't change much

[deft pine]

I work at a gym so sometimes Ill hit a lift during shift when its dead

[upper lintel]

Interesting now it make more sense. Is it a real place ? Do you think its real

[lost flicker]

I have no clue

[upper lintel]

Interesting they can randomly wield the magical item

[solid spruce]

I think it is based on the mordenkainen magnificient mansion spell

[solid spruce]

Same, lad. But you can alway strive for more

[upper lintel]

Interesting.

[deft pine]

Im training to be built like a linebacker since I do have some height to me

[solid spruce]

I have found that putting some comfort aside and sacrifying some screen or Ludic Time can allow to place workouts. And then sleep and eat better

[solid spruce]

I do not. Dwarf all the way through

[remote wadi]

I could, sure. But that isn't a priority at this moment

I've already got at least 3 important things to keep in check before exercise is something to worry about. And besides, when I say the build of a dwarf, I mean back, legs, and shoulders: as in, carrying around things and walking

[deft pine]

Rock it then twin. I needa thicken up since im naturally a twig

[solid spruce]

You do what you must. But careful to not lose yourself mentally and physically

[solid spruce]

The exact inverse on my side

[remote wadi]

I appreciate the concern, but my modes are either "I've been through worse" or "Nothing you could have done to help anyways"

[solid spruce]

Hmmmmm

[deft pine]

Im at my highest weight of my life at 240 pounds, cut gonna get crazy. Waiting till I hit 300

[remote wadi]

That's to say, losing myself physically is not likely because I am quite strong despite not being toned everywhere

And losing myself mentally and emotionally, I'm afraid that most people can't or choose not to help with that. I've come to somewhat bitterly accept that

[deft pine]

I just go to therapy and that works for me

[solid spruce]

I go in the Forest. Or underground if I can

Works pretty well

[deft pine]

Rock and stone⛏️

[solid spruce]

Rock and stone brother ⚒️

[deft pine]

Scout mainz rise up

Grapple hook n special powder my beloved

[solid spruce]

I see what you mean

[remote wadi]

Therapy isn't for me. Found out the hard way

And also, DRG is pretty great. It just sucks how the server is so quick to ban anyone who does even the smallest thing a mod doesn't like

Such was my swift end on the server

[deft pine]

Dying games usually have power tripping mods since theres nobody keeping them in check unfortunately

[upper lintel]

I been thinking of getting back into neverwinter online

[deft pine]

Never played that one

[remote wadi]

Thing is, it's quite a large server for an indie game

I could go into detail, but

1. Wrong place
2. I prefer talking about things if it would actually make positive changes

[upper lintel]

Tbh hot take neverwinter online is the best dnd mmorpg by miles

[deft pine]

Well its large but currently declining until rogue core drops. Then all the 14 people in the Playstation servers won't be on the main game

[solid spruce]

I wish i had a support to play games again

[remote wadi]

I play(ed) on PC. Much harder to get into the game without the server. I'll never understand the logic of people like those mods...

[remote wadi]

You mean like a dedicated medic?

[solid spruce]

No, a console or a pc

[remote wadi]

Well, if i had someone to help appeal, it might help. Might

But if you need more details, dms

[solid spruce]

I feel like we are not talking much about D&D anymore

[deft pine]

Drg has dwarves!

[solid spruce]

The link seems indirect. But. That is an excellent point

I might be a bit biaised

[idle oar]

Hey folks things are getting a bit off-topic - let’s get back to D&D. For not-D&D discussions feel free to use #non-dnd-topics

[golden nymph]

so im joining a new campaign in session 2 pretty soon and my friend who's the DM suggested we do a oneshot for my character to have a backstory before he joins the group, thats a great idea lol i never thought of that

we still gotta do session 0 but we might do the 0 and the oneshot in one sitting to get my character up to speed with the rest of the party before i meet the other guys

[empty thicket]

small

The chicken get the tarrasque Stats and the tarrasque get the chicken stats

but still get their skills except teh swallowing that is changed between them

[crimson gulch]

Ahhh, running a holiday session tonight, Scalefeast is a mid summer holiday I invented in the moonshae Islands where folks heard the return of a copper dragon that had been rescued by heros 30 years ago

[coarse belfry]

hi chat

[worldly flare]

Hey

[coarse belfry]

lowkey js bored

[lusty tendon]

So after becoming a veteran player and now a dm, when i finally discovered flagship dnd builds, they are nasty as hell

What do you mean you are part warlock, cleric, sorcerer this just seems like a person building an oc rather than a character with a specific goal in mind

[blissful ibex]

I mean... building an oc is literally a specific goal XD

[empty thicket]

"Jack of all trades" i guess

that in some way, a character that do that would be... "Weak" because high level features are good. But in other i would understood why it does

[blissful ibex]

The trick is being very careful with how and when you multiclass

My primary character is a Druid 15 / Bard 3 / Fighter 1 / Sorcerer 1

and I have things spaced so she's hitting key abilities at the beginning or end of each tier for the most part, though levels 7, 8, and 9 are each fairly important as well and she's happy being anything other than level 1, where she's mostly just trying not to die but that's most classes at that level XD

[sullen ingot]

What do you get at fighter 1 out of that, if I may ask

[sinful dust]

i dont get why they had to insanely nerf grapple in dnd 2024 :(

[blissful ibex]

Martial weapon training, a fighting style, weapon mastery, and second wind isn't bad either

[sullen ingot]

(For your build. I can read the chart)

[blissful ibex]

I really like taking primal order magician and need a way to access martial weapons for the longbow
Also, I prefer my casters be a bit more martial in a wuxia sort of way, but prefer still having a mostly full caster

[sinful dust]

sure some strats were pretty op back then but come on, current grapple is nothing like it was💔

[sullen ingot]

Grapple tends to break Organized Play in most systems. This solved that problem

[blissful ibex]

I could just use a shortbow but I really like the longbow for the range (even if I never use it) so

[sinful dust]

oh, how so? i never had issues in my table

just some fancy requests by players

[undone rain]

The dnd fanbase scares me sometimes. Glaf i havent met any toxic people yet

[solid spruce]

Depend on the chicken, id say tiny

[sullen ingot]

“Lemmie just grapple the boss of every encounter while everyone else deals with the mooks so we can wail on them as a team”, said the grapple monk

[blissful ibex]

also lets you grapple in place of an oppurtunity attack RAW now as well :3

2014 rules explicitly stated you had to make a grapple as part of the attack action

[solid spruce]

I mean, it works

[sinful dust]

yeah but little timmy can escape the fighter's grapple insanely more easily than he could before

thats what makes me sad, literally kinda any enemy

[still burrow]

HiHi, general question is there an app/method I can use to kind of trial run my character to see its strength and weakness?

[sinful dust]

one thing is like a 17 DC escape for grapple, one thing is a contested roll where the grappler rolls like 26 cuz they have an insane strenght stat

[still burrow]

Some sorta of simulation maybe?

[solid spruce]

What I find funny with the 2014 grappling rule is that with the right subclass and race, you can wrestle the tarrasque

[blissful ibex]

There's free solo 3rd party CYOA booklets you could use

[solid spruce]

Yeah, high level player grappling are a tough thing to handle sometime

[blissful ibex]

#dnd-newcomers message I have two of them linked here that are rather nice

[still burrow]

thank you very much!

[solid spruce]

Question for all. What are the most busted subclass (considering RAW rules) for each classes in your opinion ?

I am thinking 2014 but Lets go 2024 as well

For barbarian id say Path of the Giant

[errant bramble]

What are RAW rules?

[solid spruce]

Rule as written, by that I mean not considering UA or homebrew

[crimson gulch]

RAW rules are not busted imo. things only get busted when folks get things wrong, homebrew OR dont run enough encounters in a day

[reef tundra]

RAW - Rules as Written - where you play the game exactly as the rules say

[blissful ibex]

Depends on what you're trying to do tbh

[reef tundra]

Unfortunately no. You mean “official content”

[blissful ibex]

like mastermind rogue can either be the worst or the best rogue subclass depending on circumstances, your party, your DM, and the campaign/module

[reef tundra]

There are homebrew rulings, but it seems like you’re talking about official content

[solid spruce]

There is still subclasses way better than other in some categories

[crimson gulch]

yeah but the good ones arent busted

[reef tundra]

I find 2024 much more balanced, with the good and bad subclasses

[solid spruce]

I am talking, in example, of the battlemaster or samurai fighter ability to deal damage as high as a météor swarm

[solid spruce]

True

[crimson gulch]

Thats just fighters

[solid spruce]

I might not be using the word correcly, english is not my first language

[crimson gulch]

fighters are the top damage class over an adventuring day, wizards can do their 9th level spell once but a fighter keeps fighting all day and gets their action surges back on short rests

[reef tundra]

Never face a person who can swing a giant slab of metal bigger than themselves 8 times in 6 seconds

[crimson gulch]

the most dangerous place to be is within striking distance of a fighter

[reef tundra]

Wizards have a higher max but a lower minimum, in a way

[crimson gulch]

my MOST terrifying boss i custom created, had Action Surge Recharge(5-6)

[blissful ibex]

Martials are consistant
Instantanious casters are burst
concentration casters split the difference but require concentration and time

[reef tundra]

Holy hell that is terrifying

That’s why they work so well together

[solid spruce]

I feel that a Giant path barbarian is way more dangerous than, let say, a berserker barbarian

[reef tundra]

Martials keep the heat, and casters deliver the biggest blows

[crimson gulch]

nah, the new brezerker is Great

[solid spruce]

Almost to the point of game breaking When min max properly

[reef tundra]

2024 berserker is peak. 2014 berserker is… uhh…

[solid spruce]

Talking in the 2014 version

[crimson gulch]

even the old brezerker was great, i had 3 of them hit level 20 in my campaigns and they slayed so hard

[solid spruce]

I think the subclass is Nice, like every subclasses, but lack sustainability in front of other

[crimson gulch]

spellcasters can do a few big things per day, Martials carry all day

and when you are running 6 to 10 encounters per day the spellcasters are going to need to conserve their spells and the martials need to fight their heart out

[blissful ibex]

Bard, Cleric, and Druid can also easily last quite a while depending on your spell choices

[crimson gulch]

especialy when you get up into high level encounters past level 15 when every monster is going to be reisistant to magic and have awesome saving throws, so your big spells will allways get saved, but Breaking that AC is key

[solid spruce]

There is some berserker abilities that feel…underwhelming compared to a totem warrior or a giant barbarian. (In my opinion)

[blissful ibex]

can easily only end up popping 1~3 spell slots on an encounter if you're playing a more mixed martial or cantrip spammy build

[solid spruce]

Caster often have other ressources than straight spell tho

[crimson gulch]

bardic inspirations, Channle divinitys, wildshapes, dont all have the same impact as high level spells though

[blissful ibex]

You have to be high level to use high level spells though'
most of the game is not spent in tier 3+ usually

[solid spruce]

Like a cronurgy wizard or a bladesinger will have many ways to beat the ennemy without ever facing magic resistance

[crimson gulch]

i spend a lot of time there

[blissful ibex]

also, you need something to do once your level 7~9 spellslots are burnt

And moon bard concentrating on Conjure Woodland Beings can do work

[solid spruce]

I agree, but dont you think some of the subclass abilities lack something in comparaison to other ? Mechanically speaking ofc, cause the themed part of the subclass is neat

[solid spruce]

Lots of turn on the board

[crimson gulch]

Some subclasses are better than others yes, none are so great they are broken, which was your original question

[solid spruce]

Aye, I think I am not using the word busted properly. I meant it in the comparaison with the other sublcasses, and not in their capabilities to break the game

I am on the same opinion as you about the game breaking potential

[reef tundra]

Oath of the ancients is still crazy though

Not as much in 2024 but still a little

[solid spruce]

It is very interesting, especially the magic resistance aura

[blissful ibex]

I'm very excited for Circle of Preservation Druid
more support focused than wildfire and the flavor is top tier

[solid spruce]

About the Druid, i have seen the terrific power of moon druid in game, but what other subclasses did you find impressive ?

[blissful ibex]

stars is also popular

shepherd got nerfed in 2024 due to there being far fewer summoning options
dreams can be nice, extra healing and a bunch of utility

[solid spruce]

Hmmm

[buoyant oar]

Summoners. The reason I added combat timers.

[blissful ibex]

wildfire is a bit dated with it's action requirement but also a solid option

[red steppe]

Nahh shepherd's pretty much dead in 2024

[blissful ibex]

yeah

I just really like the flavor of Preservation, the spell list is almost entirely useful, and the features are really solid as well

[red steppe]

Conjure Animals should've stayed the same but let the players actually choose this time

[crimson gulch]

conjure animals never really had a big impact in my games, AOE and broken concentraton usualy just wipes them out after one round

8 wolves? roll 8 d20 and you hit on 14 on the dice roll em

[red steppe]

Tis why you choose owls instead

[civic blade]

👍

[blissful ibex]

It's my ideal druid

[coarse ravine]

I mean 20th level moon 2014 was kinda broken.

[hot marlin]

It really was not

[coarse ravine]

As a lifelong druid I will say the most fun I've had at the table is with wildfire.

[snow agate]

20th level anything is kinda broken that’s the point

[crimson gulch]

near unlimited hit points was rough allright, but they went down super easy to power word kill when they were under 100 hp in wildshape

[blissful ibex]

I'm going to be running it in AL while I wait for Preservation (and hope it's not campaign locked )

spell list was similar enough to where I'm not losing any prepared spells and the subclass features are nice

[coarse ravine]

Being able to teleport the entire party is huge. At level 6 you can basically just hangout and read a book in a tree. Every spell you cast thats not self can originate from the wildfire spirit

Those 2 features is all I really need lol. Level 10 amd 14 are just additives

[blissful ibex]

also going to have a familiar so can double up on positioning for touch spells that way XD

wild companion is just so nice

[coarse ravine]

Well it burns your wildshape

[blissful ibex]

I mean, you can print wildshape charges at druid level 5

[coarse ravine]

Wildfire spirit only lasts so long. Extremely useful

[coarse ravine]

Get em back on a short rest idk about 2024

[blissful ibex]

2024 lets you burn spell slots to restore charges as a free action once per each of your turns if you're out of them

bard gets the same thing with less restrictions for their bardic inspiration at 5 as well

you can also do the reverse once per day to get a 1st level spell slot if you need to for some reason

and you get 1 wild shape charge back on a short rest from level 2

[coarse ravine]

Foregoing a extra 1d8 for fire, 1d8 for healing, casting spells from that origin. (Thornwhip 10 feet up now enemy takes fall damage too)
The big kicker not being able to teleport the entire party every round as a bonus action.

Play how you wanta play i just know resource management for sure. Spell slots and wildshapes

[blissful ibex]

My druid is more martial, she has access to tne new version of true strike and shillelagh

so she can hit things with a short/longbow or her staff as needed and do better than normal cantrip levels of damage c:

spell slots are mostly for concentration, utility, healing, etc

[coarse ravine]

I mean at level 6 you will be getting another d8 for that produce flame

So 3d8 for a cantrip level 6

[blissful ibex]

at level 5 I do 1d10+3 +1d6 with the staff or 1d8+3 +1d6 with a longbow
and at 9 that becomes 1d8/10+3 +1d6 +1d8

[coarse ravine]

Where's the extra 1d6 coming?

[blissful ibex]

5th level cantrip upgrade on 2024 true strike

the 1d8 is from Primal Strike, the 7th level druid feature

[coarse ravine]

Concentrating on true strike as a druid 👀. Hey play how ya wanta play

[blissful ibex]

it's not concentration in 2024

[coarse ravine]

Bout 75% of the spell list with druids is concentration

[blissful ibex]

It's a booming/green flame blade style cantrip now

[crimson gulch]

True strike is a wepon enhancing cantrip like Booming blade now

[coarse ravine]

Is it a bonus action to cast?

[blissful ibex]

you attack with it as part of the action spent to cast it

[crimson gulch]

Guided by a flash of magical insight, you make one attack with the weapon used in the spell’s casting. The attack uses your spellcasting ability for the attack and damage rolls instead of using Strength or Dexterity. If the attack deals damage, it can be Radiant damage or the weapon’s normal damage type (your choice).

Cantrip Upgrade. Whether you deal Radiant damage or the weapon’s normal damage type, the attack deals extra Radiant damage when you reach levels 5 (1d6), 11 (2d6), and 17 (3d6).

[blissful ibex]

it works with my bow as well which is nice

[crimson gulch]

The new players handbook has been out for over a year and the basic rules which contain all the new spells and basic class changes are all free

[coarse ravine]

Nice. You can use then and your wildfire spirit as a bonus action.

I was just saying not using your wildfire spirit is playing a druid without a subclass.

Would highly recommend ya use him but if ya want a familiar ya can do that too

[blissful ibex]

you can use both

just burns level 1 spell slots which I'm not generally using too many of anyway because it's a concentration heavy class and I'm generally using true strike + a concentration spell for damage anyway

[coarse ravine]

Yeah for me prepping level usually goes.
Absorb elements
Healing word
Speak with animals
Then either entangle if I think im fighting a fast guy today.
Faerie fire if I think im fighting a slowpoke strong guy. For dex and strength save purposes. Other then that ice knife can come in handy if they are all bunched up. Protection from evil and good is situational but good. I have gotten alot of use out of upcasting fog cloud. My melee fighter taking blindfighting style. Me upcasting fog cloud so its just a blind enemy in there with a fighter. Pretty cool

Ive also escaped a prison sentence before by upcasting fog cloud

[blissful ibex]

fog cloud is REALLY good if you have a familair using the bat stat block XD

can burn your bonus action to get 60 ft. blindsight radius from its position

[coarse ravine]

Upcasting fog cloud to level 5 is what i did to escape that prisoner of war sentence. Sure we were level 10. But there was like 100s of guards so yeah threw that thing down. 100 foot radius fog cloud. And dipped

[glossy otter]

hey guys, I've got to ask a question. I wanted to ask what would be the perfect christmas present for players online without granting magic items again or giving something small like inspiration (I say not those two because I've done them years prior). I wanted to give them something fun in game

[umbral girder]

Dragon gifts/blessings perhaps

Or a free use of the Wish spell

[uncut zenith]

Charms/Blessings are a great one imo

I especially like charms cuz they typically can only be used three times before they’re gone

[crimson gulch]

Deck of many things

[snow agate]

they meet frosty the snow elemental

[uncut zenith]

Alaster did mention no magic items

[crimson gulch]

the deck of many things is not an item, its an opprotunity to gamble with your life

[uncut zenith]

In the shape of a magic item lol

[crimson gulch]

yes, so techinicly it is an item, but in practice its Sessions of unforgettable gameplay

[red steppe]

Destroy the deck, it aint worth it

[glossy otter]

I mean it could be a one time gamble where there's a 50/50 if you do get one

[buoyant oar]

I have ran this for a group of players every year.

They love it.

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/330840/a-christmas-carol-adventure-maps

It is a Christmas Carol Adventure.

But if strictly an in game thing and not a special session.

I always tend to run chill sessions around the holidays. Have some of the players' favorite NPCs surprise them with a party.

Go for flavorful mundane items.

Got a cleric who follows a specific god? Well an NPC has gifted them a detailed carving of their holy symbol in a nice expensive wood.

Got a fighter with a nice longsword? A local smith they helped gifts a custom scabbard for their blade inlaid with Silver and red leather.

Things like that.

[empty thicket]

Wishing a Metal golem

Or a loyal immortal pseudodragon

maybe the immortal part can be changed

[severe rampart]

I wonder what's the most useless thing you can wish for in DnD

[flat monolith]

A pebble

[severe rampart]

That has a use, you can chuck it at enemies, wont do much but it still has a use

[empty thicket]

1cp

if not, a stick, a normal useless stick

[flat monolith]

Fair fair, how about time freezes for everything in the multiverse including yourself for one nanosecond

[severe rampart]

Would they be conscious during that nanosecond or no

[flat monolith]

Does it really matter? But probably no

[empty thicket]

welp, it does if you considerate some entities would feel that nanosecond.
Mostly the strong ones would feel it and be scared because they shouldnt be able to be time stopped so easily

[flat monolith]

Lol

[empty thicket]

You can literally trigger the paranoia in some wizard with just that

[severe rampart]

and just one singular thought can affect your actions and the path you take in life, so it definitely has a use

[empty thicket]

Some kings wizards would feel it and be scared of future events like that, generals, etc etc.
The most powerful dragons too
Anything that understand what happened in just a nano second would be enough.
The worst thing is, in reality nothing changed and that paranoia would eat them alive.

Can literally make a campaign around it, some epic moments and more and finally end with a kid that found the most powerful ring that had 1 final wish without restrictions. "i wish to the time stop for 1 second"

Hey, not every campaign have to get a final big battle boss or smt like that.

[coarse belfry]

hiya

[spring glen]

Hey nerds what's going on

[stark arch]

how many amount of oil fuel or torches should you get in avarage?

[spring glen]

I find 10 is a good number

[stark arch]

10 tourches? that be 10 hours of light

or 10 oils? 60 hours of light

[vale sage]

Dnd?

[spring glen]

10 oils

60 torches would be ceazy

[stark arch]

😛 60 lb weight vs 10 lb of oils weight

[spring glen]

Yeah

I make sure I have a hooded lanturn

[errant bramble]

Or, hear me out, just obtain dark vision through eldritch pacts.

[tall locust]

Most of the times i see players start with 10 torches

[stark arch]

yea thats standart pack probaly

[tall locust]

Yup

[spring glen]

Or just have dark vision

Humans are stinky

[tall locust]

Yeah that's the easier one

[errant bramble]

Humans can get dark visions through eldritch pacts.

[stark arch]

dark vision 60 feet of vission. bullseye latarn 120 feet of light

[tall locust]

And other magic or magic items

[spring glen]

My warforged is Stinky

[errant bramble]

Just do it, dip into warlock for devil sight. You know you want too.

[stark arch]

or was it 120 trough racial ?

[spring glen]

Just multi class sorcerer for shadow

[errant bramble]

I mean. I guess.

[stark arch]

meh i like to have lights. or a wil o wisp as light source doest consume any fuel

[spring glen]

My wizard might go that route I already multied I to claric

[stark arch]

wil o wisp pet?

planing to do that with my oath breaker

[spring glen]

Currently running a necromancer death claric combo

My ac goes up to 23 I'm a beffy support caster

[stark arch]

can easly get 22 or 25 ac with my necromancer wizard with animate dead creature cover or making quater or full cover with mold earth spell

[spring glen]

I'm only level 4 rn

[stark arch]

im 5

[spring glen]

Nice!

[stark arch]

5 skeletons

[spring glen]

I am picking warcaster for my feat at 5

[stark arch]

18 ac, and all got 3 weapons and a shield 😄

[spring glen]

XD

I got witherbloom for my spooky background

[stark arch]

i just got a sage background

[spring glen]

I went death claric at level 2 for Jucy duel necro cantrips

Toll of the dead on 2 targets and spare the dying on 2 is really good

I want all the necromancer spells on my necromancer 😈

[stark arch]

2 at once?

[spring glen]

Yeah reaper lets me cast necromancer single target cantrips target 2

From death claric

[stark arch]

neat

[errant bramble]

Reaper is cool.

[spring glen]

They have to be within 5 feet

[errant bramble]

Probably my favorite cleric domain.

[spring glen]

I'm a warforged because robots are the same as undead by definition

I went NE for alignment I have done evil things and my party won't cross me

[errant bramble]

I also have a warforged I’m planning on making a death domain cleric, lol.

Lvl1 paladin, crossclass into cleric.

[spring glen]

I have bags of organs from kills to use their body's for my own undead army

[stark arch]

im reading about dnd drug items, never knew it had sush items might add it to my wanted list for my paladin table

[errant bramble]

I fill my chassis with blood in an attempt to know why the living are different than me.

[spring glen]

Yeah I also poke around because robots are different and my character wants to know why

[errant bramble]

Twinning.

I do love having 19 AC lvl 1

[dusty quest]

So I'm looking for a place to run a sort of weird character. Be it a server for just our table or an existing large server. The character has some elements that may not work here due to the adult themes. Anyone have recommendations on where to take this character?

[spring glen]

19 ac level 1 is nice

[errant bramble]

Depends on what you mean by adult themes.

[stuck shuttle]

You can discuss it here if you can translate it to PG13, at least per server rules

[errant bramble]

You mean ERP or just dark setting?

[dusty quest]

Also it has some weird homebrew. As for adult themes, lets just say its a Warlock in service of Malcanthet

[stuck shuttle]

If you wanted to play the character in a game then the server’s lfg instructions can be found in #find-a-game

[dusty quest]

There is erp like elements but not the focus

[stuck shuttle]

Though I’d warn that coming in with homebrew will make it more difficult to get into a game, regardless of the content

[errant bramble]

I would go in #looking-for-dm or #looking-for-players

[dusty quest]

The homebrew is mostly just abilities that warlocks dont normally get and a narrative device. Basically this character starts high level but the dm can seal of whatever powers they want and reduce hp because this power was given by Malcanthet for her benefit and she doesn't like her pets wasting her investments

[stuck shuttle]

Yeah that’s already a fairly hefty ask to go in for any sort of game

[dusty quest]

Because the later part I assume?

Cause I would be happy to go out my way to help the dm with any of the leg work.

[knotty pasture]

Yeah like, unless the table is deliberately into that kinda thing, DMs just don't randomly seal off your power only

Ignoring the homebrew stuff and level requirement

[dusty quest]

So I guess I'll just look for a game where weird homebrew is allowed.

[stuck shuttle]

All parts. Starting at a high level, custom abilities that are outside of the Warlock feature set, sealing powers then granting them later in presumably a way that’s different from a reflavored level up

[errant bramble]

An easier way would be leveling up is unsealing your power, lore wise.

Start at lvl1 that way too.

[knotty pasture]

Even weird homebrew is hard to find if not impossible, homebrew usually exists because the DM wants to enhance their campaign/narrative with it

[dusty quest]

That would work, but I went and wrote a whole penalty system for using more power than currently allowed that I thought was cool

[knotty pasture]

They aren't doing homebrew based on your (or any PC's) premise (that they have no way to know of prior, nor would they necessarily accommodate you)

[errant bramble]

I mean, you might find someone willing to work with it. I was just giving you an alternative that would be easier to swallow probably.

[dusty quest]

Yeah, I can do that but I would still hope that the penalty system could be adapted in some way to allow for big plays at a cost to my character

[knotty pasture]

It may be easier to just DM this concept yourself instead I dunno

[errant bramble]

I mean, could just ask the DM if you can cast a 1 higher level spell slot than you have, but you go unconscious the rest of the fight? Idk, that’s a big ask.

[dusty quest]

Last time I tried to DM the game never got off the ground because only one person in the group even cared enough to make a character. Still a bit bitter about that

[stark arch]

when you consume dream lily says you get the poisen condition can you stil do a saving throw against it ?

[dusty quest]

It was mainly to be saved for big narrative moments or last ditch efforts anyway

[errant bramble]

I mean, DMs allow some extra stuff during big narrative moments anyways sometimes. So that’s not HUGE. Would depend on how big of a special thing you wanted to do. Probably couldn’t kill a god, lol.

[dusty quest]

Oh this chatacter couldn't kill a god anyway, especially by themselves. But they do have some powerful spells warlocks dont normally get

[errant bramble]

#looking-for-players has postings that allow homebrew with DM review sometimes.

I’ve seen it several times the past couple days.

[dusty quest]

Ill look around

But Imma eat first

[valid geyser]

ive seen a party member do that kinda thing once, basically for the illusion creation spell, at the cost of like 5 exhaustion

it was for like a tiny little shadow gem, but it seemed to last forever

[ashen grail]

I'm starting my first campaign with some friends after christmas and i'm really excited

[wintry spindle]

Nice do you know what you will play or are you doing a session 0 first?

[storm badge]

How do I determine what skills get proficiency? Is it class based?

[valid geyser]

your class has a list for you to pick from, and your background lists two you get as well

[storm badge]

Kk thx!

[meager fractal]

Be careful out there folks lots of scammers and bots

[rugged hawk]

I dunno if I can trust you, you might be trying to scam me about there being scammers

[covert root]

I used the scam to destroy the scams.

[crimson gulch]

Oh man I get so manny scammer dms

[rugged hawk]

Imagine leaving DMs open to randos in 2025

[covert root]

It's partially based on class, background as well. I recommend selecting background, then species, then class for the smoothest organization of them. You also can acquire more from origin feats like "Skilled", or the "Skill Expert" general feat.

[upper lintel]

Tieflings are growing on me

[storm badge]

Kk

[covert root]

They're like pimples; they grow on everyone.

[woven flint]

I still despise them even after having played my own

Though, my Tiefling was an absolute Brickhouse tank of a Cleric, so I loved him

[upper lintel]

Its not that I don't like them. But only in dnd video games. Like neverwinter online i didnt like playing as them. but now they kinda grew on me I like them alot more

[covert root]

I want to throw slag at tieflings just for the amusement, but I'd be a hypocrite, because I have a dozen tieflings and wrote a whole song about their expulsion from Elturel.

[empty thicket]

x2, too much. If had money would pay a Wizard (hacker) to give me a tool for find location spell (dox) them

[upper lintel]

[woven flint]

My Tiefling was a War Cleric of Hoar, The Doombringer

[urban bolt]

I've never interacting with a PbP game. What's it like?

[upper lintel]

Ngl neverwinter online has good lore for dnd

[knotty pasture]

Tieflings are really good

[dusty quest]

how do I get permissions for #looking-for-dm

[knotty pasture]

Three spells per long rest by level 5, fire resistance, darkvision

[upper lintel]

Tiefling make good warlock from my understanding

Im still learning and newish to this world

[woven flint]

I like Aasimar a lot more than Tieflings

My first Aasimar character was an Aberrant Mind Sorcerer, Zihass Xolba was his name

[knotty pasture]

They are best with cha based classes but really they also work with anything that isn't Barb

[urban bolt]

Dream Circle Kalashtar goes insanely hard.

[woven flint]

I don't think it makes sense because Kalashtar literally cannot dream

[tall locust]

Did anyone run the waterdeep dragon heist captain?

[urban bolt]

I stand by what i said.

[crimson gulch]

yes

[jovial shadow]

Aasimar and Humans. Previously all Aasimars could only be humans.

[covert root]

I love Hoar, but I can't say his name without the homies laughing.

"The who now!?!"

[woven flint]

His name Is unfortunate

[tall locust]

I'm getting to chapter 3 and I'm a bit lost on how to spread the information

[woven flint]

He's a pretty badass God, though

[covert root]

I just dodge it and say "The Doombringer".

[woven flint]

Sane here

[tall locust]

Like I don't want to put it in the players face but also the players aren't very good in interacting with the environment

[dusty quest]

so hey, how do I get permissions for #looking-for-dm cause I can't post there for some reason

[urban bolt]

You have to through the bot.

[dusty quest]

how do I do that?

[urban bolt]

#find-a-game

[woven flint]

My Tiefling War Cleric was a general in an army that was mostly wiped out by a Lich

He ended up killing the Liches physical body TWICE before we destroyed his phylactry, he still didn't think it was enough to avenge his men

Hoar embodies an Eye for an Eye and the Lich should've died hundreds of times, once for each man he killed

[upper lintel]

Im like a historian of dnd I am more interested in reading the lore the history of dnd of forbidden realms of it all . Its very good . Plus I don't really have friends to play the table top game so I either play with my self and find anothe outlet of dnd like baulder gate and books and so on. . Good times it really is

[covert root]

You ought to describe their surroundings very dynamically then, and subtly draw attention to things by asking their Passive Perception and telling them some things that stand out to them.

[upper lintel]

I been thinking of getting table top and see if my cousin wants to play im like 90% sure he would be down to try it

[covert root]

You mean the Forgotten Realms?

[dusty quest]

do I need to post in a specific format? because I dont see a template but maybe my ape brain is overlooking it in the big text block

[tall locust]

Ok ok yeah that's a good way to do it

[woven flint]

The Remembered Planes

[glacial parcel]

Helo

[woven flint]

Howdy, pardner.

[glacial parcel]

Helooo how are y'all

[woven flint]

Pretty good

Working on a few characters

[covert root]

It's what I do. If you make it seem like something that stands out because of their senses, they'll be inclined to investigate. "Your intuition draws you towards a bizarre circle of spores in a discreet alcove in the southwestern corner of the labyrinth, a faint resonance as you draw closer."

[glacial parcel]

Ouh this is cool

[dusty quest]

@urban bolt do I need a specific template for my post or can I just make it how I want? Im kinda ape brained right now and dont know if Im missing it in that long text wall

[upper lintel]

Yeah forgotten lol auto correct must of got me .

[glacial parcel]

I'm hapey to be hereeee cuz i've been interrssed to play dnd since years so i finally wanna get into it..so i come here hoping to learn more about the game,so hello everybody😔idk what to else since i dont know anything so well that all

[covert root]

Welcome! I recommend checking out #dnd-newcomers. It'll set you up just fine. Otherwise, always happy to discuss generic D&D stuff in here.

[woven flint]

Indeedy,
Jiddurn Moonscorched (Centaur Berserker Barbarian)
Sovis Cova (Dark Elf/Drow Celestial Warlock)
And a few just in case back-up characters lol

[glacial parcel]

Yayyaya thank u

[upper lintel]

Netflix is doing a dnd show of forgotten realms type of show . I think its gonna be made from one of the main guys who made stranger things or involved with it. But its in the works

Not sure if it will be live action im assuming it will cause Amazon already has the animated shows working really good

[keen hemlock]

Js found out about Eloquence bard okay man

Ranger found dead in a ditch being completely useless while bard can force a 20 every roll starting from 5

[upper lintel]

Which i think doing a dnd show is a challenge . Because your not takeing a ip with a story already made your takeing a whole entity of it self kinda alien when you think about it but with multiple things going on at once .

[severe rampart]

Wait what's being discussed?

[urban bolt]

It's not a text wall, it's like, 3 paragraphs. Just read it.

Not even that, really. Either way, just read the whole thing.

[dense chasm]

Guys i will be dming a group of four total noobs and I am a noob myself any tips

[urban bolt]

Uhhhh bull what you need, and have fun lol

[upper lintel]

[lime orbit]

Is dnd growing stably atm? Is it a good time to get started?

[dense chasm]

Kinda nervous cause we don't know anything so it will be a little hard to guide the players

[urban bolt]

Don't worry about it. Just play using the basic simplified rules i recc.

[severe rampart]

Have you read the "How to play" and have the others?

[urban bolt]

Use the statblocks more as a guide, and just kind of have the monster do whatever you think is cool/fits with the vibe.

[dense chasm]

We will playing dragons of stormwreck isle as many guides recomend

[dense chasm]

I sent them a video on how to play

From Ginny Di

[urban bolt]

Yeah, that works. Just play using the basic simplified rules to make it easier all around.

[tall locust]

That's great come join us forever dms and get your friends into dnd

[severe rampart]

Cool, well other than that I suggest like having a session 0 for the players to get to know each other

[glacial parcel]

i'm trying,i never get to go in dnd cause i only have one friend and he always busy so i have nobody to play with me but i'm trying to found people

[dense chasm]

I know half the players they are good friends and the other two players are friends of the player i know

[ashen schooner]

is a druid-monk multiclass viable? ive heard they dont really synergize well despite sharing the wisdom skill

[severe rampart]

well then last bit of advice is like having an actual idea of what the campaign will be, as the DM

[dense chasm]

I watched a short summary about the campaign basically dragons killing each other and saving a kidnapped dragon

[lime orbit]

Its dnd, you can change the rules

[covert root]

Yeah, finding a table can be tricky. There's Reddit LFG, and also #looking-for-players.

[dense chasm]

Fr i dont even know if half of my players even are remotely interested

We are basically forcing them to play

[covert root]

I wouldn't want to be part of a table that's not engaged.

[severe rampart]

yeah and if you're "Forcing them to play" that isn't gonna go well

[dense chasm]

We are first timers so you never know.

[severe rampart]

DnD sessions take a long time as well I think? 2-4 hours

[covert root]

I've been blessed to be in four tables where the players are very invested and attend every weekly session religiously. I wouldn't want it any other way.

[dense chasm]

Forcing might have been too strong of a word but they a intersted I don't know how much though

[severe rampart]

That'd be the dream, as a beginner I haven't really gotten to a session, only session 0

[ashen schooner]

without adding anything homebrew or shifting things around tho are they compatible

[dense chasm]

I know half the players will play and my friend vouches for the other two but idk

[severe rampart]

Do they have character sheets ready?

[covert root]

It helps to really immerse yourself in the characters, set an example for the enthusiasm. Don't just say you attack with your Longsword, describe the light reflecting against the blade as you muster the strength to lunge at the foe, each breath measured and cautious against the enemy.

[dense chasm]

We have premade ones from dragons of stormwreck isle

[severe rampart]

are you a good storyteller?

[dense chasm]

I played pretend alot as a child and i mostly made the stories so I think so

[tall locust]

Premade adventures are best for starting if you ask me

[dense chasm]

Most videos said that

[jovial shadow]

Druid- Monks and Cleric-Monks are very viable. The Monk was initially created as a type of Cleric back in TSR's days.

[sleek cloud]

Ah yes, the Dronk

[tall locust]

I started with homebrew adventures that i wrote with close to no dnd experience and it was very hard for the first few campaigns

[sleek cloud]

And also the Clonk

[dense chasm]

Sounds like I made a good choice

[tall locust]

Yup

[ashen schooner]

oooh wait really? a lot of my friends have disagreed

[jovial shadow]

Yep way back in D&D's Blackmoor campaign. I want to say 1975 or sometime around there.

[ashen schooner]

ill admit i dont really know how to build good multiclasses with druid so im v clueless

[dense chasm]

Btw I'm doing everything for free

Like I didn't buy anything

[tall locust]

Monk is a very multiclassable class in my experience

[tall locust]

Oh nice

Where did you get the premade campaign?

[dense chasm]

And I am commiting the sin of online dice

[tall locust]

Lol

[dense chasm]

It's from a starter kit I just downloaded the books and stuff online

[jovial shadow]

Online dice is a sin? I love digital dice. I've never picked up physical dice since

[tall locust]

All dice goblins start somewhere

[dense chasm]

I printed out the map and character sheets

[tall locust]

Im the opposite

[dense chasm]

May not be the best experience but it is what it is

[tall locust]

I have like 60 dice sets

[tall locust]

Yeah that's good

[dense chasm]

Trash quality but better than nothing

[wintry spindle]

The real question is. What you peops go to snack during a game

[worldly flare]

It’s days like this that I hate attunement. I know it’s a good thing it exists objectively but it’s getting in the way of my shenanigans.

[wintry spindle]

Play an artificer

they get extra atunement slots

[worldly flare]

I know but the build I’m running is a wizard

Cause Wizards are the best.

[tall locust]

Sweet russian corn puffs and blueberrie fanta

[wintry spindle]

what is russian corn puffs?

[sleek cloud]

I’ve never seen blueberry Fanta

[tall locust]

I don't know what it's really called but the label is in russian

[wintry spindle]

interesting

We eat often licourice because we are Danish

[tall locust]

I discovered it a year ago and never gone back since

It's basically like cheeto puffs but smaller and sweet

[hushed mason]

Chocolate covered pretzels.

[wintry spindle]

good choice

I used to eat spicy nuts but one of the players is allergic to nuts so I stopped bringing them just in case

Baby carrots are also good

[timid current]

Weirdly I don't snack a lot while playing.

Certainly plenty of beverage tho

[wintry spindle]

Thats also fair

[uncut zenith]

I’m usually DMing, so I don’t have the chance to snack a lot cuz my mouth is busy doing DM narration and stuff

[raven kernel]

I think I figured out how to use the deck of many things safely. (DM’s correct me if I’m wrong)

With the use of the spell augury I can get a good omen, a bad omen, both, or neither, for what happens in the following 30 minutes in game.

With the use of this spell the dungeon master would look at the top card and aether say good or bad.

What y’all think?

[wintry spindle]

When I DM i usually take my snack breaks when the players are rp'in among themselves

[uncut zenith]

When I do snack, I usually do almonds, honey roasted peanuts, or cheddar sour cream Ruffles

[dense chasm]

Just tell the players it's asmr

[wintry spindle]

good picks

It's ambience of the tavern

[dense chasm]

What do you guys think about dragons of stormwreck isle

Has anyone played or dmed it

[uncut zenith]

Pretty fun adventure, my biggest issue with it is that the pre generated characters in it don’t fit either the 2014 character rules or the 2024 character rules

[wintry spindle]

I heard similar things but haven't played it

[dense chasm]

Has anyone played or dmed it

[uncut zenith]

It was released when the 2024 options were still being playtested, so the pregen characters have some mechanical differences that didn’t make the final cut in 2024

[dense chasm]

I'm using the premade characters

Everyone is a total beginners (me also)so i doubt we will have the problems you had

[crimson gulch]

Nope, because I the dm dont know what card is next

[wintry spindle]

Tbh I don't like premade characters

I like them in concept but I rather just having us start low lvl

[severe rampart]

Me neither, I like being immersed and making the backstory myself, but to each their own

[wintry spindle]

I think you should just be honest about class dificulties as a new player

[empty thicket]

it help to new players tho, but most of time is recommended to make it by yourself

[crimson gulch]

I offer pre made charicters in learn to play onr shots

[dense chasm]

I would use unique character but we don't know how to deal with modifiers, numericals and stuff

[severe rampart]

I'm so excited to play for the first time but my party has the first session like 1-2 weeks

[wintry spindle]

I think it's therefor good to learn to make the sheet yourself so you get how stuff works but each to their own

[uncut zenith]

That’s one of the greater benefits of premade characters imo. A lot of them are designed to be very simple with not a huge variety of confusing options.

That’s why a lot of them tend to just be Fighters, Wizards, Clerics, and Rogues.

[wintry spindle]

I think it also depends on what your interest is in DnD if you are playing it like casual for like a friends birhtday then i get you don't want to spend to much time on building a pc

[dense chasm]

That's why I chose a short campaign it's just so that we can learn how to play for the future

[empty thicket]

Wizard // Fighter // Ranger are goods for me, for starters.
Sorc // Monk // Rogue // druid are the worst for starters.

[wintry spindle]

I agree

[silver pendant]

ai is scarry

[wintry spindle]

I think monk at low lvl is also pretty good for starters. Focus points are easy to manage. It scales pretty well

[empty thicket]

Yeah but at the same time, its a ton of features and too much for a starter

[silver pendant]

i have a campaign idea but I need some help where do I go for that

[empty thicket]

here i guess

[hushed mason]

#dm-discussion

[silver pendant]

ok

ty

[hushed mason]

There's also a world-building channel.

[silver pendant]

ok i will try both

[hushed mason]

Depends on the kind of advice you're looking for, but pop on over and ask, and folks will respond. Everyone here is quite friendly, I've noticed.

[severe rampart]

Question for those who have forever parties, how did you meet your permanent group of people to play DnD with?

[proven mountain]

I met my groups through Roll20

[wintry spindle]

Facebook group for DND players in my area

[hushed mason]

I met my forever group online via mIRC over 25 years ago.

[dense chasm]

One of the five premade characters sheets is a rouge should I not allow it?

[severe rampart]

Oh my god

[urban bolt]

Allow it, rogue is fine.

[dense chasm]

Ok

[wintry spindle]

Also i just put a group together of people i knew liked DnD and asked if they wanted to start a group

[severe rampart]

So you've had hundreds of sessions with them? that is crazy and the dream

[hushed mason]

We stopped playing for about 15 years, but we started up again during the pandemic. Fun fact: a member of our original group ended up being on the FBI most wanted list.

[urban bolt]

Oh

[wintry spindle]

Honestly hundres idk i don't keep track

[severe rampart]

Lore that I did not expect but wow

[dense chasm]

What did they do

[urban bolt]

Interesting lore there

[wintry spindle]

We usually play every other week

[empty thicket]

You can, but for me rogue have a too specific playstyle that force you

[proven mountain]

Playing weekly together since 2019 and 2021 so it's worked out 🙂

[severe rampart]

How were you guys at your first time playing DnD?

[foggy mural]

Hellloooo everyone!! Neww to the server here 🤩

[urban bolt]

First time i played, i dm'd a homebrew. That was quite a bit of fun.

[wintry spindle]

Was pretty fun. It was 3,5 so many years ago. It was an after school club thing

Building a pc in 3,5 was really hard though

[dense chasm]

I will find out tmrw

[severe rampart]

You guys werent nervous or confused about some of the rules?

[urban bolt]

Nah. We just made it up as we went, and kept it consistent.

[hushed mason]

The first time I tried playing, the rest of the group decided to kill off my newly introduced character because her Charisma was low. Turns out the boys didn't want to have a girl at the table. This was in high school, 2e-era.

[wintry spindle]

Nervous no but confused sometimes yes. Thats just the game sometimes. A rule gets not that explained well or someone has different experiences with rules and mechanics

Jump is often a disputed rule I see at tables. I just go with the strength score. Not really athletics check

[hushed mason]

Not good things related to why we do not share ages on this server.

[sleek cloud]

What’s the fastest yall had a character die from playing it the first time

[urban bolt]

Well, it'll be one session for my next group of players.

[wintry spindle]

Well technically before the game even began because he was dead

[hushed mason]

See above. My first character was killed on introduction by a bunch of stupid boys.

[severe rampart]

I'll find out in 1-2 weeks

[dense chasm]

Btw what happens when a character dies

[sleek cloud]

Fear

[rugged hawk]

Had to re-read that three times, when I switched over to this Discord and began scrolling down. Brain kept trying to interpret it as 'chocolate covered tentacles', for some reason.

[severe rampart]

And you still revisited DnD wow, that is amazing

[urban bolt]

Player rolls up another. Or plays 50 red dragons.

[karmic pendant]

usually a new character has to be made

[wintry spindle]

In faerun lore a lot of stuff can happen. But basically you go to this after life and get judged. Dependent if you have made any deals, your species or religion or decisions you go to different places

[sleek cloud]

That’s what prompted the question, sorry that happened to you though. Hope dnd has been good to you since

[wintry spindle]

But in game it's a situation to situation thing

[dense chasm]

Random unrelated question can a necromancer summon the dead character

[severe rampart]

I asked my DM if character death was permanent, I think he said "you'll have to wait and see" (he's an experienced DM)

[wintry spindle]

Haha yes actually

[rugged hawk]

Player pulls out an identical char sheet with a nearly-same name, supposedly a cousin of the deceased, joining the adventure for 'revenge' for his fallen kin.

[dense chasm]

Perma death huh

[hushed mason]

A lot of women have at least one negative gaming experience due to stupid boys. I'm having my best gaming experiences now, though. I still play 3.5. 🙂

[urban bolt]

I'll usually find a way to keep a fashion of that character around if the player was truly attached to it. Embalmed as part of a mummy army is a personal favourite.

[wintry spindle]

A necromancer wizard can use a dead pc but resurecitos in dnd isn't that uncommon

It's just expensive

[dense chasm]

Can I use demonic sacrifice of npcs to bring them back from the dead

[severe rampart]

What was the stupidest mistake you guys made while playing DnD?

[wintry spindle]

I mean if you are the dm you can decide

[karmic pendant]

no

[hushed mason]

Joining a bad group despite the numerous red flags before the game started.

[urban bolt]

If you descide to make it applicable in the world, sure

[dense chasm]

Dnd is world of imagination fr

[wintry spindle]

Not having a session 0 with a group i joined mid campaign

[urban bolt]

Accepting a player with a furry pfp

That went.... poorly.

[sleek cloud]

Spent an actual hour with the group trying to game plan how to get down safely from a flying city to ground level below, weighed the options and settled on our one scroll of feather fall, and I forgot we were all supposed to link hands when my character just jumped off the ledge

[dense chasm]

Make sure to always set boundaries

[hushed mason]

It's tricky to do a full session 0 mid-campaign. I spent about 10 minutes going over the core details of the story plus our table rules/expectations at last session, though, cause we had two new folks join.

[sleek cloud]

Dm mercy saved me by letting the group take a reaction to dive after to enact said feather fall

[dense chasm]

What are death savess

[urban bolt]

My man, you really gotta read the basic rules before running anything.

[severe rampart]

So what did the others do to get off of the city

[urban bolt]

They already said.

[fossil hollow]

Might wanna read over the Basic Rules and check out #learn-to-play and #dnd-newcomers

[rugged hawk]

Splattered.

[wintry spindle]

True true. It's just nice it's not just the DM and the new player but the whole group during a quick session 0. The problem I experienced was my PC had no ties to the groups PCs which kinda was problematic

[karmic pendant]

something you roll when a character hits 0 hp

[severe rampart]

Character hits 0 hp

Has to roll, either Success or Fail, 3 fails and they're dead

[sleek cloud]

One of the other party members had the scroll so they proceeded to call my character a moron and dove after and we all wound up floating down separately to safety

[hushed mason]

That is problematic. The two that joined the group don't have any ties to the rest of the party, but they have a reason to adventure with the party: the party just rescued them from prison cells in a yuan-ti fortress.

[severe rampart]

that took an hour? what were the other proposed plans

[hushed mason]

So they'll adventure in the fortress together to deal with the baddies that captured them.

[wintry spindle]

We had to start a new campaign because the PC's just didn't work together. But that was also some other problems. One of the players PC's motivation was to "go home to their home country" which is kinda dificult then when the module presented doesn't cater to that

But that was also because their experience with DnD was your backstory was very important and you could make a bunch of plot hooks. But the DM was also new, so they didn't know how to make it make sense withing the module

So a lot of mistakes really.

When we started our new campaign I said at session 0 I think it's important we make PC's who want to do the adventure especially since we are running modules, and not to make PC's who are anti the story

[shy stirrup]

About 90 seconds, killed by the first pit trap in the original Tomb of Horrors, in tournament play at a GENCON. Poison was save or die. I failed the save.

[severe rampart]

Experienced DnD players, what piece of advice would you have given yourself from the past?

[stoic obsidian]

Tournaments?

[hushed mason]

Mind the red flags. If they exsist before the game, don't bother. No D&D is better than bad D&D

[shy stirrup]

Your table would compete against the other tables, fastest time with the most treasure won, pregen PCs. Many early modules like Tomb were designed for tournament play.

[rotund thunder]

I was trying to find some examples in the looking for players channel to guide me as a DM on how I should format my own posts. From looking there, it seems like the vast majority of people are offering heavy RP games where combat is rare and on the backburner. It must be rough for people trying to find a fun balance, and especially rough for players to find a heavily combat focused game

[fossil hollow]

dont just ping the whole mod team...

[trail meadow]

I didn’t…. It’s an emoji

click on it and look

[fossil hollow]

thats also why

[trail meadow]

Im confused

[hushed mason]

Don't try to understand; just try to comply.

[trail meadow]

Holy dystopian

[shy stirrup]

Putting the word combat in the first sentence and emphasizing it ought to work. Like, "this is a combat-first, RP second campaign" or "combat focused" or similar language. I suspect this server skews RP, Roll20's listings tend to be more balanced, if you are or considering using that VTT.

[loud tendon]

you received a reminder not to post emojis/stickers on their own - it is distracting to chat and unhelpful to folks using screenreaders. Also, an emoji that looks like it's pinging the moderator team doesn't seem to serve a good purpose.

questions about moderation can go to #moderator-support

[rotund thunder]

Didn't realize this server might skew that way specifically. I'll probably try to indicate in my campaign advertisement/listing that I prefer a healthy mix

[crimson gulch]

Nah, I run loads of combat focused games

[shy stirrup]

To be clear, not based on any say scientific data collection, just seeing the same things you are in the listings. Also ofc RP aka narrative-focused games are a popular style of play in the modern game, but they do seem to be somewhat over-represented in this server's listings.

As noted emphasizing combat in your first sentence ought to warn away narrative players, and balanced or combat-focused players will understand even the most combat-heavy D&D game still has RP, this isn't a tabletop wargame.

[rotund thunder]

I don't want to scare away players who want to enjoy a fun narrative

but I do want to make it clear that I like a pretty even 50/50 split

[hushed mason]

I worry my game doesn't have enough RP. The party is currently on a clock, though, so they need to push through a multi-layered fortress. Lots of combat.

[shy stirrup]

You could explicitly say this, yes, ultimately you may just have to create a listing and see what responses you get, and adjust accordingly.

[rotund thunder]

Right, just gotta make my listing and hope for the best. It's not like I'm required to do anything

[cinder timber]

Do you guys have any recommendations for finding a game as a player?

[severe rampart]

#find-a-game

[hushed mason]

I found players using the #looking-for-players channel on this server recently.

[shy stirrup]

I do, actually, if LFG on this server. Write something in the optional info space. A majority of listings leave this blank. Players who fill that part out have a huge advantage over those who don't.

[hushed mason]

I wish there was a way to search the posts, though.

[loud tendon]

mostly it's patience. Lots of players looking for DMs so it's harder finding a table than finding players for a table. Give yourself patience to apply to a lot and find listing that most interest you.

the waiting part sucks but finding a group that clicks makes it worth it

[cinder timber]

Fr?

[shy stirrup]

See for yourself

[severe rampart]

yeah like Forums

[cinder timber]

I just wanna play. Sucks cuz i don't have the usual schedule.

[cinder timber]

What do i put tho?

[cinder timber]

Thx Sonar

[shy stirrup]

The dreaded interview question:
Tell me about yourself. (as a player)

[loud tendon]

people pay in all sorts of timezones.. some will fall near your schedule. Patience.

[severe rampart]

No problem Thomas the Cat

[cinder timber]

Ok I will try

[hushed mason]

It's useless for me to use the #looking-for-players because I only want results for 3.5, not 5th.

[severe rampart]

unfortunate, but may I ask why you prefer 3.5?

[cinder timber]

Stateside isnt working tho, sadly.

[hushed mason]

Because I know it. 🙂

[severe rampart]

Fair enough

[shy stirrup]

Your level of experience with the game, the particular mix of the "Three Pillars" you prefer, your preferred schedule, these are some of things you could include

[cinder timber]

Aight, appreciate it Dunnik.

[hushed mason]

Honestly, I like the crunchy rules, and I enjoy simulation games, so the details work for me.

[severe rampart]

I'm so excited for my first game, but it sucks that it's about a week or two away

[loud tendon]

a game doesn't have to be in your timezone to make your schedule work. If it's online their midnight could be your midday.. as long as it fits that space of time you have to play in who cares what the local timezone is?

[hushed mason]

I haven't played Fifth Edition, but from what I understand, I think I would still prefer 3.5. I like that the NPCs/Monsters largely follow the same predictable rules that the PCs do.

[severe rampart]

Exactly, I am 13 hours ahead of my other party members

[hushed mason]

But you have a game! That's awesome.

[cinder timber]

I guess. I don't know. I was looking at stateside posts where I know the time conversion lol.

[hushed mason]

Indeed. I have players in North American and Europe in my game.

[cinder timber]

Should I try in person?

[severe rampart]

I know right?, our session 0 even had EVERYONE attending, perfect attendance

[shy stirrup]

Which is another thing you could include, your timezone and what that translates into UTC (I'm Eastern, so that's, what, -5 UTC)

[hushed mason]

You had a session zero. You're already way better than my last two attempts to join games...

[cinder timber]

What is -5 UTC?

[loud tendon]

you could always google what the timezones convert to so you can see it in your time..

[severe rampart]

Yeah well half of us were beginners and the other half were very experienced so I'm thankful for that

[hushed mason]

That's great. It's good to play with folks that know the rules well... it helps a lot.

[shy stirrup]

Universal Time Coordinated, basically London UK time
So Eastern time is 5 hours behind London time

[hushed mason]

I enjoy teaching, but I also find it helpful to have experienced players because I don't know all the rules.

[cinder timber]

Oh, I see. I guess I could do that.

[shy stirrup]

It's nice to have experienced players who know the rules and act in good faith when presenting them

[rugged hawk]

Oh man, good times. I'd launched a new barbarian just hours before a permadeath event. All but a single player out of the entire group (20+ people) went to a beholder den to clear it out or seal it forever. I got turned to stone in an epic pose while trying to bash in a beholder's eyeball with my greataxe, just minutes before everyone else got wrecked, leaving the one who remained outside to cast the magic that would bury the entire cave system.

Rocks fell, everyone but the guy casting it died, the ziggurat was loaded with new PCs within the hour.

Oh, right, and then there was my poor kobold, who didn't even make it to town from the kobold starting zone before getting slaughtered.

Umber Hulks really shouldn't be able to hide so effectively behind cave corners.

Or that time another of my kobolds didn't manage to notice the GIANT CUBE OF OOZE sitting in the center of the sewer passage. Ran straight into the cube and got paralyzed instantly, then dissolved.

[fossil hollow]

I mean, thats part of the Gelatinous Cube's statblock

[rugged hawk]

Yes, and how dare it choose to simply wait right by the sewer exit ladder.

[fossil hollow]

sounds like it found its favorite hunting spot

[rough basalt]

Based gelatinous cube

[blissful ibex]

very politely and patiently wating for its doordash

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, the next fleeing criminal to leap down the ladder to 'safety'

[red sparrow]

hi chat, favorite classes?

[fossil hollow]

three way tie between paladin, monk, warlock

[rugged hawk]

Anything without prepared spell slots.

[red sparrow]

real

[cobalt owl]

Hey does anyone know what page in a DND book is the "Copyright" page? I realized my book has a misprint and am trying to find the copyright page to potentially get a replacement

[umbral girder]

Ranger and Fighter mainly

[cobalt owl]

Fighter Wizard Cleric

[shy stirrup]

Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, Bard

[red sparrow]

i like fighter but might try swarmskeeper ranger

[umbral girder]

It’s alright

[cobalt owl]

Enid has influenced many here I see

[umbral girder]

Has some psuedo weapon masteries

[hushed mason]

I doubt they will give you a new book due to a misprint. They usually issue errata for that.

[fossil hollow]

like with the MM24

[cobalt owl]

I searched up what to do and I read that they did, if they don't anymore then 🤷

[fossil hollow]

i know they offered switch ups for Bigby

[wintry spindle]

Man all those misprints delays the last couple of months

[hollow stone]

probably rogues. like unknowingly, every time i wanna do literally anything with a character, there's a rogue for that, i have had maybe one concept where there wasn't a rogue for that

[cobalt owl]

Its also not something errata'able anyway, its literally just them typing something wrong

[sage basin]

Anyone wanna join a Curse of Strahd Campaign that's starting after the Holidays? Thursdays around 12 Noon PST!

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[hushed mason]

I've never heard of someone replacing a book due to a typo. But... who knows? Anyway, the copyright page should be at the beginning of the book.

[cobalt owl]

Is it the one where it says "Credits"

[hushed mason]

Is there one before that? I don't have this book...

[glass granite]

Goooood morning afternoon evening, Wahzzup!

[cobalt owl]

Yeah the first page says credits

[hushed mason]

I can't help you, as I don't have the book myself.

[cobalt owl]

Just ensuring I got it correct anyway

I also never said which book I have is an issue lol

[hushed mason]

Chances are I don't have it, as I only have 3.0/3.5/4e books.

[glass granite]

I was looking over the chat history looking for it!

[cobalt owl]

Old head

/ pos 👍

[blissful ibex]

Druid

[crimson gulch]

What book has the typo?

[cobalt owl]

Forgotten Realms Player

[potent prawn]

Paladin

[crimson gulch]

where is the typo i wanna see if mine has it

[cobalt owl]

Noble genies unarmored defense section

It'll say constitution instead of cha

[stoic obsidian]

I realize dual Welder is useful for rogue

Particularly the Shortsword and Scimitar rogue

[hushed mason]

Thta's not a typo. That's the kind of thing they would correct in Errata.

[cobalt owl]

Yeah but when it came out first and foremost it was always charisma

And there has been no errata for the forgotten realms books

[hushed mason]

Which printing do you have? That would be with the copyright notice.

[cobalt owl]

"First printing: November 2025"

[inner silo]

Yo guys! What's the best thing to do if you don't have a firm grip over your characters personality/story, but you're a couple of sessions into the game already?

[cobalt owl]

Figure out how you'd like to play em and adjust

I can't say thats the best way but its what I do

[glass granite]

Personality is a bit harder to do, usually I just go off the personality I had but turn an aspect of it up a bit.

For backstory, whatever sounds cool. What do you have, why do you have it, and how did you obtain it? Maybe tie it into smt you’ve seen in your campaign and work with your DM.

[inner silo]

So just adjust "on the go" and ask the dm to help with it and make them fit the world better?

[scenic zinc]

A characters personality is something you develop during play. It's not really something you're able to know before you actually play as them and have to respond to events.

So I wouldn't expect you to know them only a couple sessions in

[glass granite]

Sure, that work

[marble lion]

both works

you can let the personality appear with events happening
or you can control it and merely let the events happening give it lamplight to shine in

being controlling and conscious is a personality trait. though that is speaking on player level now

[lucid flax]

How does Spell Scribing work?
Like if I wanna create a spell scroll, how does it work? I’m kinda new to dnd

[marble lion]

is there no easy answer on google? i dont know myself

[buoyant oar]

Like in terms of adding spells to a spellbook

[cobalt owl]

Making scrolls is listed in the new PHB

[inner silo]

There are rules online, you have to spend ink, paper and a couple of days, the spell slot and materials needed

[buoyant oar]

You need a copy of the spell, money, materials and time.

[cobalt owl]

Ink isn't a thing anymore

[lucid flax]

If it’s a spell that’s higher than what I can cast, then what do I do then? Jsut have the copy still?

[inner silo]

I see. Thing is i think some of the decisions I've made as my character so far have been kind of weird or just didn't make sense considering my previous decisions

[cobalt owl]

You make a spellcasting ability check

If you're asking about casting that is

[obtuse hatch]

What channel would memes go to.

[glass granite]

None

[cobalt owl]

Making it you have to have the spell prepared. Not prepared? No scribing.

[buoyant oar]

Copying a Spell into the Book. When you find a level 1+ Wizard spell, you can copy it into your spellbook if it’s of a level you can prepare and if you have time to copy it. For each level of the spell, the transcription takes 2 hours and costs 50 GP. Afterward you can prepare the spell like the other spells in your spellbook.

Copying the Book. You can copy a spell from your spellbook into another book. This is like copying a new spell into your spellbook but faster, since you already know how to cast the spell. You need spend only 1 hour and 10 GP for each level of the copied spell.

If you lose your spellbook, you can use the same procedure to transcribe the Wizard spells that you have prepared into a new spellbook. Filling out the remainder of the new book requires you to find new spells to do so. For this reason, many wizards keep a backup spellbook

To my knowledge only Wizards can do this

[inner silo]

Scribing spells into scrolls is pretty expensive tbh

[cobalt owl]

If you have the down time you may as well (and the resources)

[sleek cloud]

To answer your question incredibly late, other options included climbing down a giant dangerous chain, having the artificer attempt to create what amounted to a hot air balloon, sneaking into a highly enemy infested area of the city where there was a portal to the front lines of a major battle, and just straight up plummeting to our actual deaths due to the amount of time it was taking to make a decision

[inner silo]

True

Yo actually, that reminds me i should probably do that in my campaign

I finally got 3 days of downtime

[buoyant oar]

I use downtime extensively. We need more downtime updates beyond Xanthars though. It's just such a robust tool for players.

[inner silo]

@glass granite @marble lion thanks for the help!

[rugged hawk]

Careful, the only truth hidden within that nugget is that it's made of tofu, not chicken ||/s||

[glass granite]

Chicken nugget is my cousin

[undone fable]

monks are not magic users correct?

[hot reef]

They are not casters

[umbral girder]

This server has none.

[obtuse hatch]

Damn found a great ttrpg meme.and wanted to share

[empty thicket]

In general, no. They can access to some spells with a subclass but are more like "special monk attacks" than spells

[abstract beacon]

Anybody here familiar with Vermintide 2 ?

I wanna play as the outcast engineer someday in the future

If possible

[cinder plank]

i cant find in the book but how can a player help someone dying
Does someboy knows? please

[abstract beacon]

Help action during death saving throws, or spare the dying , revivify and a lot of their spells and abilities

[glass granite]

Healing too

If you heal, they immediately stabilise and awaken

[undone fable]

really?

[vale sage]

Is there a place where i can look for a dungeon master

[remote wadi]

#looking-for-players

[empty thicket]

Yep, in general is okey. Kinda expected from a martial Class too.

And more knowing that hte monk get like tons of features that made him a threat already

We dont need a monk with selfcasting haste.

[remote wadi]

It already surprises me that they can get 16 AC easily with no armor or shields

[empty thicket]

Yeah but at the same time for access to their "best" perfomance you cant use weapons at all too. Still they are if not the class with more features the top 5 in the whole thing.
Idk if gauntlets count for the unarmed attacks

And for having that AC they cant use special armors, weapons, etc. etc.
Items yes, but those kind of items no

[remote wadi]

Weapons, I think are possible

The Unarmored Defense is just no armor or shields can be used

[empty thicket]

Yep but very few and idk if those can be used for the flurry of blows or all the buffs it get from martial arts, Empowered strikes, etc etc.

RAW raw idk, i dont think so.
But use them? yes, you can.

[flat monolith]

They get the die for sure and can be used with dex

[remote wadi]

From what I saw on a quick search...

It can be any simple weapon that does not have the Heavy or two handed trait. Which for 2014 is anything but the great club

[empty thicket]

oh and i think daggers too but still... use the hands, they are better.

[rough basalt]

Well monk weapons get the same die if the martial arts die is the same or highe

[remote wadi]

Which fits those requirements. Anything that is a simple weapon that does not have the 2 handed or heavy trait

[glass granite]

Monk convo? May I join?

[remote wadi]

If that is met and Unarmored Defense is active, you effectively get Finesse on your weapon, use your Martial dice in place for your weapon and unarmed attacks, and can use the bonus action to make another unarmed attack

[glass granite]

Looks about right

[rugged hawk]

All great ideas until you've got the Death Knell feature
Other creatures within 10 ft. of you have Disadvantage on Death Saving Throws, and you can't restore HP to a creature with 0 HP by any means.

[glass granite]

OUCH

[remote wadi]

From what it seems like, (one of) the biggest changes for 2024 is the addition to make an exception to those rules

You can spend 30 minutes in a Long or Short rest to turn your weapon into a monk weapon via ki with the same requirements

[glass granite]

Where do you see that in 2024?

[remote wadi]

In other words, 2024 allows you to use martial weapons with no heavy or 2 handed trait as a monk weapon if you spend 30 minutes doing so in a short/long rest

Edit: This is Tasha's Cauldron in 2020

[rough basalt]

Yeah that's not in here

[glass granite]

I don’t see that anywhere

[remote wadi]

From another quick search

[rough basalt]

Yeah that's not a thing

[remote wadi]

It was not 2024, but apparently Tasha's Cauldron in 2020

My bad

[glass granite]

2024 monks can use simple weapons, and any melee martial weapon with light

[rough basalt]

Ah I see

[remote wadi]

Apparently, the name of this is "Dedicated Weapon"

[glass granite]

I wish this was the case

Lemme use a longsword

[rough basalt]

I imagine it didn't get reprinted cause being able to use martial weapons is Kensei's thing

[glass granite]

I agree

[rough basalt]

And Monk got significantly buffed

[glass granite]

Love that they did that

[crimson gulch]

Tashas cauldron is compatible with 2024

[remote wadi]

So is this like 2014 additional content? Like how the Gloomstalker is?

[glass granite]

Tashas is a 2014 book, if that’s what you’re asking

[remote wadi]

And if what he said was true, I think this is both 2014 and 2024

[elfin imp]

Anyone have any ideas as for how I can give out the "maps" from the new Cartographer subclass? I want to give it a shot in an upcoming campaing but I don't know how to give the bonuses to people

[remote wadi]

Just not included

[crimson gulch]

Tashas came out in 2020

[jovial shadow]

Both has to be melee type in order to get the Martial die and bonus action unarmed strike. If it is just simple weapons, you only get the proficiency

[glass granite]

Nice catch

[glass granite]

It’s 2014 but compatible with 2024

[remote wadi]

So I suppose your longsword idea would be possible

[glass granite]

It would if I owned Tasha’s

[crimson gulch]

All of the books of 5e are actually very well compatible with one another, it's your choice on what options to use

I have literally ran over 400 sessions with both players handbooks on the table

[glass granite]

Hm
That’s 40x more (full) session than I’ve ever participated in

[crimson gulch]

I do this full time, I run a session just about every day

[glass granite]

Fair point

[jovial shadow]

I tend to stick only with Core book rules, since that is what the vast majority of people own or know

[remote wadi]

Closest I have is Beyond. But hey, I guess that's one idea for a Christmas present

[glass granite]

If you’re buying a dnd book, I recommend a PHB

[crimson gulch]

The players handbook should certainly be everyone's first

So many of my players don't own any books, I just share mine

[jovial shadow]

But back to Monks. The only thing I wish they did was boost Monk's base AC from 10 to 13.

[remote wadi]

Not sure, really. As much as i would love to sometime, books are a little pointless if I have no options for in persom DnD

[glass granite]

Woah that’s strong

[remote wadi]

Wisdom and Dex are going to be high stats already. Having 16 AC off the bat without being weighed down by armor or needing a shield is pretty strong

[rugged hawk]

Now make it one of those tortle race monks

[glass granite]

As much as I love monks, I think having a base 13 is a tad overkill

[crimson gulch]

I had a dex dump tortle monk once

[glass granite]

Strength monk i assume?

[remote wadi]

Not the best idea. I do remember someone making a class idea that had high 20, maybe low 30s AC

Let's just say it was the DM's turn to say "Make a Dex saving throw"

[glass granite]

Or a wisdom based astral self monk?

[crimson gulch]

Strength for sure

[glass granite]

Monks are proficient, they’ll be fine

Plus, tortle monks don’t have to dump Dex

[remote wadi]

It still cancels out to be neutral. Not the best idea, especially if Dex is low from other investments

[jovial shadow]

I suppose you could have AC 16 initially if you maxed Dex and Wis at 15 each (and I guess Con?) and sacrifice everything else to paltry levels.

[remote wadi]

Also, I was about to think of a MC between Monk and a Samurai, but it may not be the best idea because that means no cool looking armor

[glass granite]

Which as a monk is usually the best bet.

[jovial shadow]

Not my monk

[glass granite]

Fair

15 or 16 (or very lowest 14) is the standard lvl 1 monk AC

[remote wadi]

Which is pretty good still

[glass granite]

Indeed

Bumping that up to 18 or 19 would be a lil overtuned

[remote wadi]

At level 1, no less. And the main way to bump up AC is by better armor

[glass granite]

Their unarmoured defence does make ASI’s a lot more appealing than other feats tho. Monks are really stat hungry

[remote wadi]

So the only real drawback to the Unarmored Defense is that, when looking at it, it's somewhat average to other classes. But you get a lot more carrying room, no purchases needed, and get +10 feet of movement minimum at level 2

[empty thicket]

they didnt get like 5 stats up? like fighter

[glass granite]

They get the same as everyone else

4.8.12,16,19

[empty thicket]

give me one sec, im checking, im fr curious now

[remote wadi]

Honestly, a Monk and Samurai Fighter MC would be interesting, especially with the Ki element

The only drawback for now is that means no cool armor. And that means you're less the Samurai you imagined and more like Samurai Jack

[glass granite]

What does the monk get out of the fighter levels?

[glass granite]

Monks are also notoriously poor multiclassers

[remote wadi]

Speaking from another topic the other day

Basically, was stuck with the concept I had earlier for a Samurai Fighter and a Hexblade Warlock (especially if there is a summon familiar)
But Druids seemed a little interesting as an option for more of a raven aestetic

[jagged bone]

Hello! ^-^

[woven flint]

Howdee

[jagged bone]

Howdee do, my fellow dragons and dungeons of peoples? :3

[limber trail]

Tokii! Fiendish influence!

[woven flint]

Yes, indeed we are 🧐

[remote wadi]

Thought for a second that a Monk would help substitute the subtle magic element, but i guess not

[woven flint]

Silence, Wench!

[limber trail]

Nay!

[jovial shadow]

Monks are good for one or two levels of a Multiclass for those initial class features, like Hunter's Mark, Rage, Weapon Mastery and Action surge, as limited they may be. Also, I used Magic Initiate for some damage cantrips, especially for aoe. Again. Limited but useful when necessary.

[woven flint]

Yae.

[glass granite]

Action surge is a tad unnecessary, and takes two levels away from valuable monk levels, so it’s usually not worth it.
Rage requires 13 strength, which is MAD.
The Ranger one is very fun tho, it’s my personal fav build.

[limber trail]

Monks are generally happy to get passive features but any actions, bonus actions, or reactions to end up cutting into the class's action economy

On basically any given turn it's rare that a monk doesn't use all three of their actions, bonus actions, and reactions.

[jovial shadow]

If you are with a DM and you know you won't get close to 20th level, then it's okay for the Monk to MC. Otherwise. I would stay Monk and gain the capstone of bonus 4's to your Wis and Dex.

[cobalt owl]

I do find it weird when games don't allow multiclassing

[hot marlin]

It is indeed not too common but it is also acceptable. In 2014 rules, multiclassing is an optional rule. By default it is not allowed

[keen kestrel]

A hexblade can choose the raven queen as their patron (for that cool aesthetic)

[cobalt owl]

A little crazy to me ig

[remote wadi]

That... would actually be pretty fun. At least, until you have to roll all those dice

[rugged hawk]

Am I just overlooking it, or is there not a deity of contradictions, challenges, evolution, and such? Of things that go against existing status quos?

[jovial shadow]

Yeah I was never a fan of multiclassing.

[woven flint]

Action surge for..
Two additional attacks on a Monk honestly doesn't sound worth it to me lol

Wow!...
I can already attack like 500 times!

[remote wadi]

How well does a few levels in that pair with Samurai subclass?

[empty thicket]

monk only get 4, 8, 12 and 16

except 2014, there it get all of them

[woven flint]

19 Is an Epic boon for everyone, which can be used for an ASI

[cobalt owl]

Everyone gets one at 19

[empty thicket]

oh, nvm then

[remote wadi]

I could take it or leave it, I suppose

[cobalt owl]

Monk does not need action surge, their bonus action is their action surge

[empty thicket]

i remember that a class get only 4, idk which

[woven flint]

The answer is none

[glass granite]

Indeed

[empty thicket]

damn, i got Mandela effected

[woven flint]

All classes except Fighter and I believe Rogue, get the same amount of ASI's

[remote wadi]

And yeah. Spending a Ki point to do 2 somewhat damaging attacks is great

Not to mention Stunning Strike. I've played enough Fallout to know how powerful a stun can be on a target

[jovial shadow]

All Monks should want extra attacks, when they can get them. As well as do extra damage on whatever attacks they have. Mine does that's for sure

[cobalt owl]

Rogue gets 5, Figher gets 6

[empty thicket]

2014 stats up
Rogue get 6
Fighter 7
2024
R 5 + boon
F 6 + boon

And for me its understandable, fighter getting that much stats ups is fair for me

[remote wadi]

Not to mention he also has great support with Stunning Strike. An average of 13 DC at level 2 is a good start, but also being able to give everyone advantage and instant fails on the target's Strength and Dex save is a good combo

And it lasts until the end of the Monk's next turn, no less

[jovial shadow]

Fighters have always been giving special favors in ways that support their melee prowess

[blissful ibex]

FIghter is to martial what wizard is to spellcasters; they're the quintessential martial class so they get some fun toys

[glass granite]

One has a lot of bonk, one has a lot of zonks

[empty thicket]

yep, i recommend both of those for starters. Mostly because both can adapt and do lots of things

[lean wigeon]

it's ideally meant to be for feats, like the weapon feats e.g. GWM and Polearm Master, to further define them, since fighters don't really have anything definitive outside of just attacking more, which is boring

[cobalt owl]

I use my second wind to add a d10 to my ability check, beating the rogue in sleight of hand

[jovial shadow]

That's 2014. Now Stun only last until the start of your next turn. Which isn't all bad since you are likely close to first in the initiative in your group of players. That and the Stunned Condition also means, they also have the Incapaciated condition.

[remote wadi]

That still is massive for your team. Especially for just how many characters benefit from advantage

[jovial shadow]

Agree

[empty thicket]

yeah and their subclasses are... "okey"

[remote wadi]

But then again, as much as I love playing support classes

They are only overshadowed by my love for beeg crits

[empty thicket]

some are simple, some give good stuff in general
Battlemaster give the maneuvers (i think it should have some for free in the class and scale and battlemaster upgrade them a lot)
Champion make you have more critics
Echo knight is op
Eldritch give him access to spells
ETc. etc.

[jovial shadow]

If for some reason had never looked at Monk, I would have likely wanted to play Battlemaster.

As far as Monk sublcasses go, I think Shadow Monk is just too good imo

[stoic obsidian]

What the biggest weakness of a party that consists of range characters (both martial and spellcasters)

[flat monolith]

Wind and melee rush

[scenic zinc]

Usually, ac.

[olive wasp]

Anything that can close the gaps really fast probably. and i think some enemies have resistences to magic that would make it pretty rough on the distanc spell casters

ive been working with the golem stat sheet for something and it seems like a magic users worst nightmare tbh