dnd-discussion

[echo agate]

question, how do you see your amount of bonus actions on DnDBeyond

[fossil hollow]

You only ever have one

[echo agate]

i see i see, good to know

[fossil hollow]

No, youre right though, iirc, theyre essentially giant moths

[hoary totem]

Bonus point if it's a rosy maple moth

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, you have one bonus action, but a myriad of ways to spend it usually, depending on your build

[echo agate]

oh ye, im just trying to learn, a friend is playing monk for the first time, so trying to understand everything in order to help

[jovial shadow]

Monk is fun

Excellent damage and defenses

[hoary totem]

Monk = i am speed

[blissful ibex]

My bat familiar is reflavored to be one of those

[empty thicket]

yep, the only bad thing is he doesnt use a lot of weapons and armors (so he cant use magic ones too)

[gray garden]

im glad monk got a buff but it still feels like its missing something

not sure what

[empty thicket]

the projectiles things now is with all attacks if im not wrong

[gray garden]

its not all attacks its attacks with slashing piercing bludgeoning

[hot marlin]

Monk is the choice martial. While for the stereotypical barbarian, every turn is kind of identical, for monks there are always choices. Do you use that bonus action to disengage? To dodge? Do you use a focus point? Do you risk the attack of opportunity by moving away after attacking, knowing your foe doesn't have the speed to reach you in melee and allowing to hit and run? Do you use that reaction for an attack of opportunity, do you save it to deflect attack or do you save it in case of a fall?

[fossil hollow]

which tend to be common. At a higher level, its all attacks, regardless of damage types

[jovial shadow]

Actually Monks deflects all attacks at level 13

[echo agate]

OH ye, i do see that, i'm just curious to learn about all the classes and such, He seems to be having fun

[empty thicket]

okey, not magic ones but you get it. Almost all weapons in general

[blissful ibex]

or do you burn your BA to disengage and give up your extra unarmed attack to play it safe and not risk the AoO

[hot marlin]

Exactly.

Tactically-minded players usually love monks

[fossil hollow]

wynaut just Flurry and Deflect the oncoming AoO :P

[empty thicket]

so, in theory monk is the sorc of martials?

[hot marlin]

Not inaccurate

Another aspect of the class: Monks are extremely defensive. They have a tool for defence against every possible type of offence in the game

[blissful ibex]

I'd like monk if it was like a 3/4 caster XD

[empty thicket]

Wizard = Fighter
Sorc = Monk
Warlock = ?

[covert lion]

hi yall! I really love the concept of dnd and I would love to learn more and play with someone, is someone willing to play? I'm not that prepared yet though and I don't really understand character creation, like, how do I know how much to make a characters durability or something

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-newcomers

[empty thicket]

yep, lots of tools he get trough levels. Making him not rely in items//spells

[gray garden]

i know balance wise it wouldnt make sense but i wish monks got prof in wisdom saving throws

[fossil hollow]

they get proficiency in all saves at level 14

[jovial shadow]

They do. In fact they get proficiency in ALL saving throws

[blissful ibex]

Mine is somewhat similar, but she likes + weapons and possibly armor tattoos and the odd utility magic item

[empty thicket]

and can use ki for a reroll so...

[umbral girder]

They also can negate Charmed, Frightened, and Poison too, two of those are the primary Wis saves conditions

[empty thicket]

yep, nothing stop you of using magic tattoos or magic items

[gray garden]

i tried kensei monk but it was so bad

[hot marlin]

A well played monk can be seen as the party's contingency plan. It's the character that will survive the catastrophe, it's the character who has no weakness, in exchange for fewer strengths, and who is equally at ease in just about every situation.

[torpid trout]

Hey, not sure if this is the place for it or not, but I got one of those devilish questions abotu details. You know the Gorgon monster? Big iron bull with a gas breath that inflicts pralysis? Would that only affect people on contact or inhalation?

[gray garden]

while this can be true one failed wisdom save can easily take a monk out a fight

[hot marlin]

Which is true of every character.

[gray garden]

portent wizard:

[hot marlin]

And in fact the monk is among the least likely to fail that wisdom save

[fossil hollow]

Which is why again they have so much things to help with saves and ways to get rid of CC conditions

[empty thicket]

yep, the only bad bad thing about monk that i see is, completely close range and cant teleport normally.
Beside that, its a hard to kill unit

[gray garden]

paladin?

[fossil hollow]

Also, yeah, they have a natural lean to WIS already

[jovial shadow]

That's no different from any character, not a knock against the Monk

[empty thicket]

and few have a way to take it off with their own resources

[jovial shadow]

Add that to the fact the Monk can also spend a Focus Poinit to re-roll a failed save

[gray garden]

again im talking around level 5-6

[umbral girder]

So?

[gray garden]

they dont get that

[blissful ibex]

level 7 2024 bard would like a word (as a reaction)

[jovial shadow]

I mean if we are going to talk about the Monk's abilities, why should we only limit it to the lower tier?

[fossil hollow]

I dont see anyone mentioning what level the monk is at

[gray garden]

i mean 2014 monk

[empty thicket]

lvl 6 give you a choice of dealing FORCE damage with your unarmed strikes....

[fossil hollow]

and?

[gray garden]

when it was at its worse

[jovial shadow]

Level 5

[fossil hollow]

all im seeing is moving goalposts

[umbral girder]

Oh no 30% of the game what will one do?

[fossil hollow]

isnt 1-5 25%?

[blissful ibex]

stunning strike and extra attack
nuff said

[umbral girder]

They also said 6

[fossil hollow]

fair nough

[gray garden]

most games never go modules dont go above level 10-15ish

[empty thicket]

and less go further until 20

[gray garden]

only one off the top of my head that go past are vecna eye of ruin or chains of asmod

[blissful ibex]

unless you're running AL in which case they generally make sure to include tier 4 modules

[fossil hollow]

And is still moving goalposts

[gray garden]

im still wondering why shadow monk cant see in the darkness they make

[empty thicket]

i hve a question, Remarkable athlete from Champion, fighter. I dont get it

[gray garden]

but shadow sorcerer can???

[jovial shadow]

They can in 2024 see in their darkness

[fossil hollow]

cuz shadow monk is an unfortunate victim of early 2014 design

[empty thicket]

"Starting at 7th level, you can add half your proficiency bonus (rounded up) to any Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution check you make that doesn't already use your proficiency bonus.

In addition, when you make a running long jump, the distance you can cover increases by a number of feet equal to your Strength modifier."
I dont get the second part, the first i find it good

[jovial shadow]

We are talking 2024 but Marika is talking about the 2014 monk i guess

[fossil hollow]

Jumping is just niche. Its mostly for flavor and a ribbon feature

[gray garden]

this aint bg3 where jumping is faster then walking

[blissful ibex]

gives you advantage on things being fit make you good at and let you leave a near dead enemy to your temates so you can bog down/focus on the next one

flavor wise it's like an adreneline rush, boost of extra speed that allows you to reposition

[umbral girder]

Pretty sure majority of the modules over over level 10

[gray garden]

i mean 10-15

[fossil hollow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gray garden]

most ending before you can even reach level 13

[umbral girder]

Also Monk’s ability we speak about is also in 10-15

[fossil hollow]

again... just seems like mmoving goalposts here

[gray garden]

i do like deflect energy

[fossil hollow]

just because not everyone runs to tier 3 doesnt mean nobody doesnt. Its a bit of a moot point

[umbral girder]

A lot of “I’m wrong so I need to change the goal to make myself right” happening today

[blissful ibex]

If nobody runs it, it wouldn't exist

[gray garden]

i do wish it worked on lightning bolt

[fossil hollow]

thats what evasion is for

[gray garden]

i guess

[jovial shadow]

It's not a guess, it is.

[gray garden]

i hope kensei gets a good rework through

[jovial shadow]

Let's not forget the Monk also gets to replenish his Temp HP every round he decides to use Patient Defense at 10th level

[gray garden]

ehh tasha did it first with that stupid cleric

[blissful ibex]

and now Preservation Druid is doing it too c:

temp HP for everyone XD

[gray garden]

i still dont think you can outdo twilight clreic

[blissful ibex]

probs not but it also damages and slows

and you can ram it into enemies

[fossil hollow]

T.Sanctuary on a druid is pretty potent due to the amount of CC effects Druids get

[gray garden]

one thing i dont like about 2024 is one of my bearbarian build no longer works..

unless i get to level 6

[blissful ibex]

they broke several species/subclasses

[gray garden]

or 4

[blissful ibex]

eeh, that's fine
made everyone get their stuff at similar levels

no more 1 point dips in cleric or sorcerer for free subclass features

[gray garden]

paladin warlocks punching the air rn

[gray garden]

idk who my god is but they must be really cool to let me use my powers at level 2

[coarse ravine]

Well I've been hating on 2024 alot lately... however a 2014 build I've always wanted to do was peace cleric 6 and rest barbarian... so he can teleport to take the damage. Well with 2024 "world tree" barbarian subclass this allows me to do that. Very very cool barbarian

[blissful ibex]

Gotta prove your devotion for them to give enough power for the domain to manifest beyond small miracles

it's flavorful

[gray garden]

still really funny to me but 2014 isnt totally innocent either with paladin not knowing there oath until level 3

[blissful ibex]

and sorcerer has to get in touch with their bloodline or w/e

[gray garden]

how do you get in touch with wild magic..

or do you have go through a tragic event mid camp

[blissful ibex]

by using it O_o
Feed the chaos, feed it!

[scenic zinc]

The 'how-to' literally describes why this is the case.

It's not that you don't know your oath - you're effectively a squire.

[gray garden]

druids can use metalish

[gray garden]

fancy fighter i guess

[scenic zinc]

And at level 3 once you've proven yourself, you take the oath

[gray garden]

until you get your oath

ah yes im immune to disease but i still dont know my oath..

[blissful ibex]

imagine actually being able to use 'studded leather', chain shirts, and breast plates and such

[gray garden]

what about the moon sickle

[scenic zinc]

Again... you know it. You've not sworn yourself to it.

You've not come into your full powers, because you've not taken it.

[blissful ibex]

My druid is... odd XD, she's very martial

[gray garden]

its a sliver weapon that you can use as a spell casting focus

[blissful ibex]

I'm aware, she just doesn't do terribly much offensive casting outside of a handfull of spells

not accounting for True Strike

[gray garden]

just use saving throws

or throw them down a cliff

i also do and dont like they way they nerfed wild shape

[empty thicket]

True strike isnt like, kinda bad?

[gray garden]

its ok 2024

[fossil hollow]

in 2024, its probably the best bladetrip

[gray garden]

i can no longer become a giant octopus in 2024

[fossil hollow]

still can?

Still CR 1

[empty thicket]

oh wait, is a cantrip

[gray garden]

sorry ROCKtopus

[empty thicket]

welp, good for a last resource or desperate attack

[gray garden]

tanky druid is no mor

[fossil hollow]

Why can you not turn into a rockopus?

its just a giant octo with camoflague

[gray garden]

2024 wild shape have a list rather then 2014 if youve seen a beast before

[fossil hollow]

you have a number of forms you can transform into.

Wether or not is allowed is something you talk with your DM. Like in 2014

[gray garden]

they also lost there ability to turn into elementals which was REALLY cool

[umbral girder]

No 2024 you still get an any animal stat block. You just pick how many you know as you level up.

[gray garden]

but hey you can cast spells in animal form now ig

[red gust]

Hia lads and lasses. May i ask how to post that i'm looking for players?

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[gray garden]

theres a looking for players somewhere here

[coarse ravine]

1d4 extra healing is huge

[gray garden]

massive even

im still gonna miss elemetnal wild shapes

[coarse ravine]

Id say moon sickle is magical, not silver. It has magical properties to it

[gray garden]

also thoughts on druids being able to turn into plants?

[fossil hollow]

surprised we havent gotten a subclass for it

[gray garden]

ikr

ive hardly ever seen like any plant stat blocks in game

[gray garden]

This silver-bladed sickle glimmers softly with moonlight.

[fossil hollow]

thats flavor text

[blissful ibex]

doesn't work on aura of vitality though >.>
and I already have healer (and either the wildfire heal boost or preservation druids temp HP if I'm allowed to use UA)

[fossil hollow]

it works as a focus because it literally says it can be used as one

[coarse ravine]

Yes but if the weapon itself has magical properties. Id rule within itself it counts as a magic weapon

[gray garden]

i mean it is a magic weapon

[plush ermine]

Are gem dragons gonna get anything soon? Im working on dragon delves rn and want to include them, but the redesigns for the older chromatic and metallic dragons look so good and i want that for the gems

[fossil hollow]

it is a magical weapon yes

[coarse ravine]

Not that druids are hitting with moon sickle lol

Used to raise that dc and spellcasting

[gray garden]

not at all cause it for some god awful reason uses str

[blissful ibex]

I'm perfectly happy hitting with my shillelaghed wooden staff, thank you XD

[lime orbit]

After people kill dragons in dnd, do players often eat them?

[coarse ravine]

Rangers might might use it to hit with but not druids

[gray garden]

it only uses str not dex

btw small question you know the spell rope trick?

[coarse ravine]

You 100% descale and defang and get as much dragon blood and teeth as you can

[crimson gulch]

i have so many players that want to eat everything, its crazy

[lime orbit]

Its so normal though

[blissful ibex]

theoretically you could do a double light weapon, warcaster + dual weild with an MC int osomething that gives you weapon mastery on druid

[lime orbit]

Why kill something and not eat it, unless its humanoid

[gray garden]

Delicious in Dungeon

[blissful ibex]

to make use of nick

[gray garden]

i prefer good berry thank you

[fossil hollow]

im still sad that blue one wasnt yummy

[blissful ibex]

Goodberry, as the name suggests, is pretty good XD

[gray garden]

indeed

[coarse ravine]

Feel free to eat that ooze

[blissful ibex]

make everyone a healer on their bonus action

[crimson gulch]

the blue 1/2 you mean

[lime orbit]

Do you mean defang the dragon head and cook it into a white broth?

[blissful ibex]

and it's rations

[gray garden]

and anybody can pick it up

[lime orbit]

is there a dnd cookbook?

[blissful ibex]

yes

[coarse ravine]

No you definitely harvest the entirety of the dragon. Use the bladder as a waterskin

[lime orbit]

Does it teach how to cook zombies and stuff?

[gray garden]

your not suppose to eat ZOMBIES

[coarse ravine]

Dragon parts are magical. So worth something. I bet a dragon liver could be high priced

[gray garden]

thats rotten meat

[lime orbit]

Wouldn't that rot?

[gray garden]

btw you know yuan ti pure bloods?

[lime orbit]

Are you going to donate it to the dragon hospital?

[gray garden]

did you know the reason they are so broken is because its suppose to be a transformation

[coarse ravine]

Of all these monster races im surprised there aren't any gnoll races

Had a dm tell me I dont understand gnoll. Even tho I had comprehend languages. Tried to say only gnolls can know gnoll

[gray garden]

prob because there aveage int is like 5ish

[coarse ravine]

Orc intelligence is also 5

They made plasmoid races which have intelligence of 1

But no gnoll?

[gray garden]

if knoll is a spoken language i dont see why it shouldnt work

[coarse ravine]

Lizardfolk... that also eat their enemies. But no gnoll?

[coarse ravine]

Bad dms be bad dms lol

Had another dm try to tell my primordial speaking character they dont know aquan

Even it has a entire separate section in the rulebook specifically for primordial

[gray garden]

i found this "gnolls are not merely evil humanoids; they are literal spawn of Yeenoghu, a demon prince of the Abyss"

[coarse ravine]

I thought this was the case. Maybe other races dont have actual bbegs

[gray garden]

so if you made a knoll they would most likely be chaotic evil unless some lore provents them

[coarse ravine]

Tieflings are from asmodeus or something right?

[fallow onyx]

wait is it knoll or gnoll

[gray garden]

"Volo's Guide to Monsters characterize gnolls as lacking anything resembling a conscience, driven solely by a ravenous, frenzied bloodlust."

[coarse ravine]

Gnoll.

[gray garden]

the Hyennas

[coarse ravine]

What's it say about lizardfolk?

[fossil hollow]

fiends in general

[coarse ravine]

Cause they eat everything also

[gray garden]

demons and devils are two diffrent things

[coarse ravine]

I think its prolly cause of the gnoll lore. Yeenoghu prolly can control every gnoll or something

[gray garden]

lizard folk have one thing that gnoll's dont freewill

they can choose to be good or eat everything while Gnolls are just full of bloodshed

[fossil hollow]

unless you're in Eberron

[gray garden]

true

there like the cloest fiend you can get without it being fully fiend imo

i did a lot of research into demons and devils

[coarse ravine]

Yeenoghu is fun

[empty thicket]

a raven have same int

[gray garden]

like how asmod was once a an angel

[coarse ravine]

Can't fly but still fun.

[gray garden]

sent to kill demons and stop them

but the abyss changed the angels turning them into the first devils

[empty thicket]

any way to use any demonic material for weapons//armor?

[coarse ravine]

Yes prolly cursed but yes

[gray garden]

if you are on the material plane you kinda cant since demons bodies along with there weaponw turn into a black goo as they go back down to the pits of the abyss

but i think you can make something up

[coarse ravine]

I mean theres def demonic gear thats also cursed

[rugged hawk]

Ah, it's a Legacy item:

`Demon Armor
Legacy
Armor (plate), very rare (requires attunement)

While wearing this armor, you gain a +1 bonus to AC, and you can understand and speak Abyssal. In addition, the armor’s clawed gauntlets turn unarmed strikes with your hands into magic weapons that deal slashing damage, with a +1 bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls and a damage die of 1d8.

Curse. Once you don this cursed armor, you can’t doff it unless you are targeted by the remove curse spell or similar magic. While wearing the armor, you have disadvantage on attack rolls against demons and on saving throws against their spells and special abilities.`

It's over on https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/4619-demon-armor

[gray garden]

thats.. very bad

well i guess it depends where you find it but yeeesh

[rugged hawk]

The hells did you think wearing DEMON BODY PARTS was gonna accomplish?

[gray garden]

its armor not skin again how are you gonna skin a demon

[rugged hawk]

Chop off its limb before sending the rest of it back to the Abyss, clearly.

[coarse ravine]

Im finding alot of devil items... not demon

Demon armor tho^

[gray garden]

its.. an almost instant process..?

[coarse ravine]

Well there us Abyssal gem

[gray garden]

When a demon dies on the Material Plane (our world), its body usually dissolves into foul-smelling ichor, ash, or smoke, returning its essence to the Abyss to reform

almost nothing is left behind when you slay something that isnt from our world usually

[rugged hawk]

Again, that's why you chop it up without killing it first, make the armor, then send the living remains back

[gray garden]

i doubt you have anything strong enough to cut clean through demon skin but popoff

[fiery escarp]

I have had a thought about dnd that is stupid

[wooden belfry]

ip

[fiery escarp]

Everyone always always always says you cant use an instrument as a good weapon

[rugged hawk]

Also, it should be super obvious this isn't an item intended to be a player upgrade, but a warning about messing with objects made with obviously dark magic.

[gray garden]

also wouldnt the demon die unless you heal it if you start to chop it up?

[rugged hawk]

Also, it fits into Ghosts of Saltmarsh due to nearly all the magic items easily available to the party being AT LEAST mildly cursed.

[fiery escarp]

I call it a bardbarian who wields an axe that has holes in it that can play flute music and be used as both an axe and a flute

[gray garden]

i prefer the book of vile darkness

[gray garden]

there is a semi rule about that

[coarse ravine]

I mean... yeah chop it then cure wounds the wound

[fiery escarp]

But would it work better than most magic weapons

[gray garden]

cure wounds cant.. heal chopped off body parts

[coarse ravine]

Definitely can be treated as a basic club

[coarse ravine]

Regenerate..

[fiery escarp]

You used it to chop off an enemies head while having your mouth on it and playing music and yes in real life there's a chance it gets cut in half but like its wood either way?

[fiery escarp]

Your music heals your party while killing the enemy

[gray garden]

alright whats stopping the demon from fighting back at that point

[coarse ravine]

He can... but now party has his hand

[gray garden]

Improvised weapons similar to normal ones use everyday items to mimic real weapons: a table leg becomes a club/quarterstaff, a rolled-up magazine/tightly-bound scarf acts as a baton, a belt with a buckle functions like a flail, a flashlight/pen/keys can be a dagger/punching spike, and a heavy backpack works

[coarse ravine]

The big question is does the hand dissolve without the body?

[gray garden]

the entire body goes all of it not just chopped off parts

[coarse ravine]

Im saying if you have a arm and the demon lives

[fiery escarp]

If you make a sword have a guitar bottom and make it holdable and swing able in guitar position give it strings make it cut through heads while playing to heal others then you get a wizard to write spells onto a drumb set

[coarse ravine]

Does the arm dissolve? If the demon lives?

[fiery escarp]

A magic item for a wizard just has to have spells written on it

[gray garden]

no it only dissolves if it dies

[fiery escarp]

You can get a band of bardsubclasses

Add lore and make it so they each have their own enemy and are never ever ever able to defeat them but when the others do it they have an 80% success rate unless you help then its dropped to 50%

[coarse ravine]

Now thats a spiritual weapon if I've ever seen it

I created a bard/ cleric one time and roleplayed hints as he was in the choir

[fiery escarp]

People call me stupid but if you actually had a band of bardsubclasses and you used attack and healing with bard subclass then you're just never dying ever

[gray garden]

i play charaters who dress as one thing but do another

[umbral girder]

Until they run out of spell slots from over use

[fiery escarp]

Whats that mean

[fiery escarp]

Get more weapons

[umbral girder]

Because even at the highest levels bards got around 22 slots I think?

[fiery escarp]

Use them as spears

[coarse ravine]

Party of druids or party of clerics prolly better

Bards can heal. But druids and clerics especially are the best healers

Bards get mass healing word tho so thats good.

[fiery escarp]

Arent druids like nature clerics and clerics are just Christian warlocks

[gray garden]

DM: what you playing
Me: i look like a Rogue
DM: the guards are just around the corner what do you do
Me: i turn into a cat

[umbral girder]

Party of Rangers is what I would use for a MonoClass party

[fiery escarp]

That heal

[umbral girder]

You got utility for pretty much every situation in the game with a party of only Rangers

[fiery escarp]

Hilarious

[coarse ravine]

100% druids are sneakier then the rogue

Enlarge reduce my ant.... good luck finding me.

[fiery escarp]

Hear me out you design a bow that shoots spears

Then make yourself a paladin archer

[coarse ravine]

So a balista?

[fiery escarp]

Ehhh

[gray garden]

on the oppisite end i made a rune knight fairy

[fiery escarp]

Either way I could play d&d normally or I make the most chaotic thing possible and have fun with it

[restive hound]

cant you do this with homebrew?

[fiery escarp]

90% of my d&d will be homebrew

[coarse ravine]

I think balista has a stat block not sure

[restive hound]

well traditional dnd ballistas most likely

[coarse ravine]

Or trebuchet whichever one shoots the ones that can takeout dragons in game or thrones

[fiery escarp]

Hear me out you make a new race of creature call it a waxten who can heal himself but it takes a turn during battle and hes made of wax and hes a fighter and sometimes can use fire attacks

[gray garden]

we made it to level 20 and our finally fight was with a Ancient Black Dragon

[fiery escarp]

You won right?

[gray garden]

i suplex the dragon

[coarse ravine]

I mean... assimar can heal and do radiant damage. Not fire but healing as a racial feature kinda cool

[fiery escarp]

I have another idea

[gray garden]

here me out alright

yuan ti pure blood

go to a bar and challenge everyone that you can out drink them easily

[fiery escarp]

You make a normal d&d game but after getting to level 20 you grind and grind your dm lets your attacks slowly take more and more dice and eventually you fight a god for immorality you suffer and suffer until in modern time you battle a wizard who became immortal first and wants to take over the world because the kids are so stupid

[gray garden]

profit

[sacred pilot]

Does anyone know if the Legends Of Greyhawk stuff is avaible anywhere for the general public?

[empty thicket]

yeah, that is why most of time some campaigns end in lower levels, like 15

[gray garden]

true

[fiery escarp]

Itd be more fun though

[empty thicket]

sad because some classes get features i would like to try, like champion lvl 18

[gray garden]

thats what BOONS are for

[empty thicket]

"At 18th level, you attain the pinnacle of resilience in battle. At the start of each of your turns, you regain hit points equal to 5 + your Constitution modifier if you have no more than half of your hit points left. You don't gain this benefit if you have 0 hit points."

so, in fact, if you arent downed, you are giga hard to kill

[gray garden]

i still wanna see if a full party of level 20* can kill a Kolyarut

[fiery escarp]

D&d campaigns end too soon like you should atleast get to level 20 kill or fight atleast one god slay 1 hydra kill 3 ancient dragons and 5 red dragons

[umbral girder]

Well Kolyaruts are only cr20 so yeah

A cr20 monster is an Easy encounter for a level 20 party

[gray garden]

i wouldnt think so since it just Incapacitated an entire party no savingthrow

[umbral girder]

For 1 round. And only if it hits

[gray garden]

its an automatic hit

[umbral girder]

Ah neat. Also a recharge of 5-6

And only 24 damage

[gray garden]

24 x 4

[umbral girder]

And an initiative of +1

[gray garden]

it can also remove your weapon reaction or push you

[umbral girder]

And?

That it?

[gray garden]

its pretty much a mini marut

[umbral girder]

Yeah a level 20 kills it fast. That isn’t impressive for level 20

[umbral girder]

Still rather low

[gray garden]

96 damage true damage in one turn isnt impressive

[coarse ravine]

Zealot ya just dont get killed lol

[umbral girder]

At level 20? Yeah it’s not that good

Maybe at level 10-12 I can see it being good damage

[empty thicket]

but i dont get the funny 18 critic range

[gray garden]

alright what about a marut

[coarse ravine]

Zealot level 14 sais when you die ya dont die until rage ends......

[umbral girder]

That is a potentially harder fight.

[coarse ravine]

Read that again then read it as if you were a dm lol

[gray garden]

how is 120 damage a potentially harder fight

[umbral girder]

It’s only 120 against level 20.

[gray garden]

it can also do 45 and maybe stun you

[umbral girder]

It’s benefit is the massive upgrade in defensive power

[coarse ravine]

When you can do 9000 damage to the zealot... without power word kill or a monster that makes it make a save or die like the solar. Zealots just keep fighting

[gray garden]

is there something im not about a level 20 party?

[umbral girder]

They can all shut them down turn one very quickly

[gray garden]

for 10 min

[gray garden]

explain what im not seeing

[umbral girder]

They are facing dudes with a +1 initiative so almost always going first.

[gray garden]

right

[umbral girder]

The nonmagic damage is very irrelevant too, and it’s 4 actions vs 1 guy’s actions

[coarse ravine]

I do wish our dm after he moved after 3-4 years playing... wished we woulda had one last one shot and faced every bbeg he had in that campaign hahah

[umbral girder]

Any 9th level can ruin the attempts of these guys

[gray garden]

22 ac and 432 hp.. im not seeing it

[umbral girder]

Or even a few walls of force, or just moving to a place where they have trouble doing their melee heavy attacks

Just move out of range, only cleric would likely have trouble escaping

[umbral girder]

I have a level 12 party who can do that in two rounds.

[coarse ravine]

Pychic scream will shut anyone down

[umbral girder]

And easily beat 22 AC.

[coarse ravine]

Besides monk I think they can get rid of stun right?

[gray garden]

. The marut targets up to two creatures it can see within 60 feet of it. Each target must succeed on a DC 20 Charisma saving throw

[gray garden]

2024 nerfed stunned so you can move while stunnednow

[umbral girder]

And? That it? Only 60ft?

[coarse ravine]

Is that the golem that can auto hit you?

[gray garden]

yeah

[umbral girder]

Yeah that is very slow and short ranged

[gray garden]

ah yes when he can just remove you from the fight entirely unless you use range

[coarse ravine]

Was just about to say... yes has high damage out put. But the giant quintessa can also auto hit from 600 feet away.

[umbral girder]

Seriously throw an Entangle and both those guys can’t do anything

[coarse ravine]

She's cr 16 vs Marut being what cr 22?

[umbral girder]

+1 dex isn’t saving them at all

[gray garden]

then it makes a strength check

[umbral girder]

Knock them prone and walk away, they only have at best +9 which is pathetic at level 20

[coarse ravine]

Web not entangle

Web targets dex i think entangle targets strength

[crimson gulch]

One marut is a speed bump for a level 20 party

I have thrown them in 3 at a time usually

[gray garden]

also cant a creature use its walking and fly speed or just one

[umbral girder]

Heck the Kolyraunt’s ability fails all together since it requires movement which can be stopped with a Grapple

[gray garden]

my favorite monster and what i think is the strongest monster ever printed is sul ketish

[coarse ravine]

Speed is calculated on movement. So if I have 30 feet walking and 60 foot flying

[umbral girder]

A real challenge would be Sul Khatesh for a level 20 party. She is wild.

[crimson gulch]

Marut can break concentration very easy with its stunning ability

[coarse ravine]

I can walk 30 and fly another 30.

Or fly just 60

[crimson gulch]

No, you could fly 60 or walk 30

[gray garden]

shes pretty much unbeatable if she just hangs out in her anti magic field which DOESNT effect her

[umbral girder]

Nah she is killable

[coarse ravine]

Read prior comment sorry for thought texting

[umbral girder]

Artifact items, divine intervention bypass her field.
Also grappling her and dragging her out

[coarse ravine]

^

[coarse ravine]

Won't anti-magic also make items anti

[gray garden]

i think artifact items are still effect by anti magic

[coarse ravine]

^

[umbral girder]

Nope it explicitly says they do not

[coarse ravine]

Anti-magic also affects wildshapes.... yeah anti-magic sucks

[gray garden]

does it?

[coarse ravine]

That like a artifact only thing

[empty thicket]

yeah, i know

[umbral girder]

Spells and other magical effects, except those created by an artifact or a deity, are suppressed in the sphere and can’t protrude into it.

[gray garden]

ohhh

still she can also cast foresight which can be a huge up hill battle for you can your party

[umbral girder]

Dispel Magic

[coarse ravine]

Are racial abilities magical?

Like assimar damage.

[gray garden]

2014 or 2024

[umbral girder]

Both do the same thing

[gray garden]

no one makes the creature do a save instead of it being a check

[coarse ravine]

Wasted 9th level slot. Ill take that over timestop and others

[empty thicket]

would love a whole weapon that is anti magic so the fantazy of a fighter that is a hunter of casters would be there

[umbral girder]

Nope. Thats a different spell

Dispel magic has no saving throw. You are thinking of counter spell

[gray garden]

oh nvm

why would they change counter spell and not disspell magic

[umbral girder]

Why would dispel Magic be a save?

It targets objects and areas too.

[gray garden]

i suppose

[umbral girder]

It just ends a spell not prevent it

[coarse ravine]

Or simply a item that sais "once a turn you can attack one creature and on a hit. That creature cannot cast spells or use magic until the end of your next turn"

[spice stump]

I'm making a druid with high wisdom and low intelligence and i was wondering if y'all have any advice on roleplaying a guy with low intel and high wis

[coarse ravine]

Artifact worthy item maybe. Especially if it makes you lose concentration

[spice stump]

Gotta atleast let them use cantrips 😭

[coarse ravine]

Yes I usually know exactly what something is but not what its called ever.

[gray garden]

fire ball at will

[coarse ravine]

You have wisdom about the thing you are tryna accomplish. But dont really know how to explain it to the party well

[spice stump]

Just roll high on the dex save!!

[umbral girder]

Average pit fiend

[gray garden]

also whoever said "take time stop" what would that even do for you

[coarse ravine]

Reggie white was the best sacker of all time. But he was a terrible coach and couldn't teach others his moves.

[gray garden]

you cant attack or interact while time is stopped

[coarse ravine]

Example of wisdom vs intelligence

Also sort of charisma to be real.

[spice stump]

Time stop and doodle on someone's face

[umbral girder]

Self buff spells mainly is my guess

[coarse ravine]

No but you can get 4 rounds to buff

Lay out spike growth right in front of the party etc.

[umbral girder]

2-5 rounds

[blissful ibex]

or set CC effects

[coarse ravine]

Greater invisibility
Fire shield idk
Another buff spell
Then attack

[spice stump]

How much dnd mechanics and stuff do you guys know in the back of your head

[gray garden]

thats interacting with another creature

[coarse ravine]

Alot and not alot.

[umbral girder]

Crowd Control I’m guessing? Last I checked it ends early if you do anything that effects the world or other creatures

[spice stump]

Timestop and PRETEND to doodle on someone's face

[coarse ravine]

Ask me rogue stuff have fun.... idk

[gray garden]

ts is such a meh spell

[umbral girder]

It’s lesser Action surge

[coarse ravine]

I mean.... it is but it isn't. You stumbled on a bbeg. He is surprised he didn't prepare. Now he has 4 rounds to prepare

[blissful ibex]

only specifically if it effects another creature or an object worn or carried by another creature
nothing says you can't prep the field AROUND them, so long as it's not in their tile

[empty thicket]

And and a guantlet that have counterspell and Stones with silent stored on them

[gray garden]

for a 9th level spell slot you can do what that fighter is doing but slightly less

[river dagger]

Thanks

[coarse ravine]

True his last turn he doesn't have to attack. He can just yank your +3 sword from you then time unfreezes

[gray garden]

one thing that uses Time stop well a hour glass maiden

[spice stump]

What if they're a monk

[empty thicket]

5 times, you can cast 5 to 10 spells and obliterate anything

[gray garden]

Accelerate Through Time (2/Day). The widow takes one additional action.

Master of Time. The widow can choose to be unaffected by effects that modify time or change its speed. The widow can affect others frozen in a time stop or other stasis-like effects.

[spice stump]

Upcast fireball 5 times

[coarse ravine]

Insignia of claws ... I think the wraps would take longer then a second to remove so id say no on the wraps lol

[empty thicket]

Oh, its an enemy, nvm

[spice stump]

Monks wear wraps?

[umbral girder]

The real purpose of 9th level slots is to upcast Magic Missile /jk

[coarse ravine]

But think of tbe possibilities... player or bbeg

[gray garden]

why not the claw tattoo

[spice stump]

I thought they were all just naked

[umbral girder]

Nope

[spice stump]

Aw shucks

[gray garden]

monks wear something

[spice stump]

What about barbarians?

[gray garden]

one thing im surpised got nerfed is paladin ngl

[empty thicket]

When you need to break someone concentration yes pr yes:

[coarse ravine]

Plant growth....
Combines with other difficult terrains then you can just stack terrain difficulties all over the map.

[umbral girder]

More than monks

[gray garden]

the shield in my back pocket

[coarse ravine]

Timestop is amazing and sucks... not the best 9th level spell but can be very useful

[spice stump]

Counterspell

[spice stump]

Why?

[empty thicket]

Ravenous void is giga violent for me

[gray garden]

smite is now magical and takes an bonus action to cast

[umbral girder]

Nah I’ve played new Paladin and it was buffed a good chunk

[gray garden]

well yeah all they nerfed is smite

[spice stump]

Nah i mean why are you surprised

[coarse ravine]

Magical items they usually get wraps and insignia of claws to boost their punching potential

[gray garden]

most they were good at is smite and saving throws and thats about it

i dont like that smite CAN be counter spelled tho

[coarse ravine]

Because personally a order cleric combo used to be alot of fun when ya made the paladin smite 3 times a turn

[umbral girder]

Counterspell on a dude with Aura of Protection is hilarious

[gray garden]

that wont work

[coarse ravine]

Dm counterspelled my healing word before

[umbral girder]

Con save in 2024

Also a huge benefit I’ve found is Divine smite now works with a lot of magic items

[gray garden]

You attempt to interrupt a creature in the process of casting a spell: aura isnt a spell

[spice stump]

Would it be funny if my cleric player tries to revivify the favourite npc for said favourite npc to counterspell it and tell them to let him die in a big sacrifice

[gray garden]

its a magical effect

[umbral girder]

Yeah I’m mean countering the Divine smite

[coarse ravine]

You can choose to be dead

[gray garden]

oh thats just cruel

[umbral girder]

Trying to cast counter spell on a dude who has a big buff to Saving throws

[coarse ravine]

I think....

[spice stump]

Oh cmon man i thought i had something cool, eh whatever imma do this anyway

[spice stump]

Actually how would you choose if you're already dead

[umbral girder]

The 2024 version of divine smite has a very fun buff to it now

[coarse ravine]

I think you can choose to be dead for certain spells. Can't remember

[umbral girder]

Because Magic items now work with it.

[spice stump]

Huh?

[coarse ravine]

You are dead so your soul is now in afterlife mode. So your soul can choose to come back or not

[umbral girder]

So I gave a player a long sword Enspelled with Divine smite so he has 7 free Divine smites during each adventure

[gray garden]

it works with any weapon.. you can divne smite with a brick if you wanted to..

[spice stump]

D-D-DAYUM

[gray garden]

ohhhh you mean that it can be copied

[spice stump]

First level?

[gray garden]

and reproduced

[spice stump]

When a SMITE and a SMITE love eachother veeeeeeery much

[gray garden]

ETHER nothere

[umbral girder]

So he didn’t need slots for Divine smite anymore

[spice stump]

God is my name that long I've never had a single soul call me by it fully in a whole year

[gray garden]

idk wasting all my spell slots on 1 crit divine smite in 2014 will never not be funny

[umbral girder]

Also Paladin got buffed as now All their smite spells activate when you hit an enemy and most of them had concentration completely removed too

[coarse ravine]

Could he also use his own smites on top of this?

[rugged hawk]

Eh, you hardly need an artifact to break conc. NPC secretly a Fae: "Can I have your attention, please?" Wham, you've just conned at least one party member into ADHD and permanent Disadvantage on Concentration checks.

[coarse ravine]

Crit paladins go crazy!!

[umbral girder]

And of course Lay on Hands as a bonus action and the buffed version of Find Steed they get for free

[gray garden]

maul with great weapon fighting

[coarse ravine]

No but its for the fighter

[spice stump]

How do you kill fae

[spice stump]

What is the fighter concentrating on, cheeseburgers?

[coarse ravine]

Sleet storm also breaks concentration

[rugged hawk]

Still hurts Fighters, need Concentration to counter Taunt, no?

[gray garden]

dont most artifacrs come with a down side and upsides one that the dm can either pick or roll?

[coarse ravine]

It was a hb weapon franc was talking about to balance the martials.

So hit and no magic essentially.

[umbral girder]

Most of them not all

[rugged hawk]

Artifacts always have a cost / balance. On top of that, they're almost always major plot targets of various factions / interested individuals.

[umbral girder]

A few just do as they say they do

[spice stump]

Oh yeah that thing, kinda eh imo

[gray garden]

most that i can think of eye and hand the book of vile darkness

[spice stump]

It's like countering something by removing it in the first place

[coarse ravine]

Mask of dragons looks amazing

[umbral girder]

Like the Sword of Zariel has none of the negative properties listed in the DMG like others do

[spice stump]

And it doesn't do much to buff martials as much as it just really nerfs any casters that might come to face with it

[rugged hawk]

Like there's the Inheritor background, which lets you start with a great item... but it's warned that the DM may make your item plot-related, meaning its at extreme risk of theft or destruction.

[coarse ravine]

With the mask if you are immune to damage types you can now heal from them

[gray garden]

Random Properties. The sword has 2 minor beneficial properties, each determined by rolling on the Minor Beneficial Properties table in chapter 7 of the Dungeon Master's Guide.

[coarse ravine]

So... like with produce flame on a short rest you can always go back to full hp

[spice stump]

We got fire absorb from pokemon now

[gray garden]

that pretty cool

[umbral girder]

Yeah that doesn’t change my statement

[crimson gulch]

It sure has some drawbacks though

[umbral girder]

I said the Negative properties

[rugged hawk]

Its negative property is being Highly Desirable and probably unique

[umbral girder]

Also it changes your alignment too

And Zariel herself will likely want you dead too

[gray garden]

idk why but i also think its funny when an ITEM chances your alignment

[rugged hawk]

You'll also be dodging mercs and thieves forever who want to take it from you

[gray garden]

SCREW YOU BE GOOD/EVIL NOW 🔥

[umbral girder]

A lot of the multiverse would be after you

[coarse ravine]

Yes candle of invocation a dm tried to give to us and was suprised that none of us were lawful good lol

[umbral girder]

Mostly devils

[rugged hawk]

Like in REDACTED, if you get the Apparatus of Kwallish and don't sell it to the person who desperately wants it, you'll be hunted by assassins until you die and they take it.

[gray garden]

she really doesnt like her old weapon

[coarse ravine]

So level 15 you are clear

[gray garden]

pretty much

small issue tho artifact (requires attunement by a creature the sword deems worthy)

[coarse ravine]

Oh an angel of 15 or higher

[umbral girder]

Yep. I am aware of that.

[crimson gulch]

careful with adventure spoilers in the general caht

[upper lintel]

Baulder gate 3 is so good

[rugged hawk]

insert Chosen One background isekai protag here

[umbral girder]

Also yeah module spoilers in this channel is big Nono

[coarse ravine]

At the very least ||Be courteous||

[idle oar]

Indeed. Please keep adventure-specific and spoilery stuff to #1029833015423143957

[gray garden]

talking about the sword is a spoiler initself no?

[idle oar]

It is when you're getting into that level of detail

[umbral girder]

Putting big lore texts and weakness of the item is a spoiler

[gray garden]

ah my bad

[umbral girder]

Especially when copied directly from the book

[coarse ravine]

Like even in the Larian discord people use ||This||

[gray garden]

i love DIA

[umbral girder]

It’s alright

[gray garden]

Flaw? What flaw? I am flawless. Utter perfection!

the flaw table of the sword is also pretty funny

[umbral girder]

I think my personal favorite module so far is Lost Mines of Phandelvar. Gets to the point and doesn’t take nearly a year.

[gray garden]

ill check it out sometime

[umbral girder]

Shatter Obelisk is also fine

[gray garden]

whats your favorite non combat artifact

mine has to be the crown of truth

[umbral girder]

Eye of Vecna. Realistically it should hardly ever used because the chance of instant death. But pretty fun for roleplaying as Vecna

As it gives me the DM a dude literally in the person’s head to mess with

[umbral girder]

Ok that is bordering on big spoiler due it’s nature

Especially since it’s rather recent

[gray garden]

is it really?

what about the head of vecna

[umbral girder]

At this point I’m wonder if this is just bait so I’m gonna get back to my novels

[prime pewter]

Silly question: how impractical would it be to hold a living sword with 6 pairs of wings on the hilt

[alpine root]

That’s depends

[gray garden]

very

how bad/good would a grappling barbarian be

[alpine root]

What race?

[gray garden]

human

[crimson gulch]

Just gotta keep in mind if you grapple someone you can't also use 2h weapons at the same time

[gray garden]

i shall use ONLY my hands

[rigid anchor]

yo WE are 1v1ing a tarrasque right

and WINNING

[alpine root]

Just gonna start brawling with everything?

[gray garden]

only those i deem worthy

[rigid anchor]

Serenade from dead cells trust

[alpine root]

It would definitely be entertaining lol. Others having to be careful with projectiles so they don’t hit you lol

[gray garden]

now i fight asHOARAH LOUX WARRIOR

[prime pewter]

I should play that game more

[molten karma]

ngl.. first time seeing an automated account enter a non dnd discord sevrer just to promote a campaign which is likely a fake..

[gray garden]

huh?

[blissful ibex]

they're all over the LFG servers q_q

[lyric viper]

Definitely becoming more common, especially around holiday times. We've made an announcement on it too: #server-announcements message

But if you see anything Sus, please do report it to discord and the mods of which ever server it's on. On here you can hold/right click a message, choose apps then 'alert mods' to discreetly ping us to a comment

[slender gyro]

Hey guys i have a question for the DMs. Would a DM ever allow the use of binding vows (check Jujutsu kaisen) in a DM campaign? Example: "i deal more damage during rage but i lose the defense bonus of rage"

[glass granite]

We can’t speak for all DM’s

[raw ocean]

I would allow them but I wouldn’t say the downside till they took the deal

[blissful ibex]

Homebrew is something you need to take up with whichever DM you're playing with at the time

Nobody here can answer that question unless they specifically are your dm

[lapis sonnet]

what creature would be a relatively quick but unwinnable fight if put against 4 level 5 players, i want to start my campaign with my players getting in prison so preferably it must be a someone of authority

or is it not recommended to start a campaign with an unwinnable fight?

[gray garden]

its not recommended to start a campaign with an unwinnable fight

[lapis sonnet]

why not

[hushed mason]

I know that the prison thing is a common trope, but I find it unappealing.

[slender gyro]

The downside is the fact that i sacrifice my rage defense

[vast pelican]

It's not particularly fun to spend an hour plus at the table where no choice you make matters.

[hushed mason]

Yes!

[vast pelican]

If you want them in prison, you can start them in prison.

[hushed mason]

Yes. That.

That way, they start off with the creative exploit of escaping.

[slender gyro]

I see

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but counterpoint, screw prison. Bag of Undead Beholder goes brrrr

[raw ocean]

I would not take that vow personally, make yourself a bigger target and easier to hit, while losing your defence

But depends on the damage boost

[blissful ibex]

Barbarian is already a pain to heal due to their massive hit point totals and lower defensive stats than other martials >.>

[rugged hawk]

Skill issue, stop treating HP as a meat shield?

[blissful ibex]

if you take away their damage resistance as well, it's going to put a massive strain on supports

[rugged hawk]

In the words of Piccolo.... DOOOODGE!

[blissful ibex]

tell that to the barb players XD

[slender gyro]

1d6 is valid ? Or would it be too underpowered?

[rugged hawk]

I mean, you could always just let them die if they wanna ignore defense. Probably cheaper to just hire a new merc in town than tow around a heal-devouring no-def Barb, anyway.

[lapis sonnet]

feel like it should be higher, resistances do a lot of work

[glass granite]

Maybe this should go to #homebrew …

[lapis sonnet]

do u guys ever implement racism into any of your worlds? (i.e orcs not being allowed into high elven parties or a non dwarf bar)

[rugged hawk]

Anti-dorf bar? Gimme locale, I need this. Elf superiority

Wait, I have a better idea. Dorf waitstaff, forced to wear the serving trays on top of their heads, since it's the perfect height and hides their ugly mugs.

[raw ocean]

Underpowered, losing three resistance types for that much 😭

[minor lake]

the world we are in is pretty anti-magic and anti-elf which has been interesting to play as a half-elf

[rugged hawk]

Still have PTSD from when an Ilythiir ritual was turned against me and permanently polymorphed both my bard and her companion into not just dwarves, but FAT, UGLY dwarves.

Probably shouldn't have been so trusting of dark elf Ilythiir to do what they promised.

The ritual was supposed to turn her into an elf (from a human), but yeah, we got screwed by that bit of magic being twisted against us.

[slender gyro]

3d6?

[blissful ibex]

Just crit on an 11~20 XD

[glass granite]

Just play a 2024 berserker at that point
And this really should go to #homebrew

[slender gyro]

What's 2024 berserker?

[glass granite]

Extra 2d6 damage on your first hit

[slender gyro]

I like the idea of a berserking glass cannon idea. That you throw away truly all defenses for more damage

[glass granite]

Oh you still keep the defence

[glass granite]

But also, this is just kinda reckless attack for all barbs

[slender gyro]

Yeah but you still keep the def from the rage. I wanna get rid of the def for more damage basically

Enforcing the glass cannon idea.

[blissful ibex]

then play a wizard /j

[raw ocean]

How about you just get the damage boost without a nerf, but there’s a time limit where you get hit with backlash at the end

All the damage you do while raging, half of it comes back after it’s over

[slender gyro]

Nah the entire idea is losing the def boost. That's it.

I trade def with offense

[glass granite]

That’s…2014 berserker kinda

[cobalt plinth]

Hello

[glass granite]

Well this is exhaustion so it’s a lil different

[cobalt plinth]

I'm new

[glass granite]

Hi new, I’m Nugget

[cobalt plinth]

How are you?

[cobalt plinth]

I'm dorian

My name is dorian

[slim glade]

do the critical role subclasses count as official material or homebrew? I was never sure on that

[hushed mason]

C'mon Nugget. Say hello the way you do.

[slim glade]

they seem to have their own official book and everything on the dnd beyond app

[slender gyro]

I have another idea but I'll probably leave it for the #homebrew about that exhaustion XD

[glass granite]

Goooooood morning afternoon evening, Dorian! Wahzzup. I recommend going to #dnd-newcomers if you need help learning the game

[glass granite]

Fineeee

[glass granite]

Homebrew

[rugged hawk]

Nugget of Truths.... or Tofu of Lies?

[slim glade]

interesting. Don't they have their own official wizards book though? I remember you could purchase it on dnd beyond.

[glass granite]

I do love tofu

[glass granite]

They weren’t published by WotC, were they? They’re just officially available on ddb

Oh wait you’re talking about Wildemount

[rugged hawk]

I count anything in the DNDB Marketplace as official content.

[glass granite]

For some reason I thought like cobalt soul and gunslinger

[fast latch]

Official, I think

[glass granite]

But yeah, stuff like chronurgy are official

[fast latch]

Since they’re in the marketplace

[slim glade]

gunslinger was always weird because it was just a holdover due to them switching from pathbringer to dnd right?

[glass granite]

Idk

[slim glade]

I know there's some old lore behind that

[slim glade]

thats what I assumed but I wasn't 100%

[fast latch]

I’m bored

Old question but it never gets old: What’s the funniest Nat 20 you’ve ever seen?

[eternal tendon]

I rolled two consecutive nat 20's as my cavalier fighter character. One to open a wine bottle using strength, the second to chug the entire bottle without getting drunk.

[fast latch]

Mine was in the first campaign I ever ran

The Rogue wanted to tame a random Mimic he found

I set the DC at 20

He got 20 + 3 = 23

[fast latch]

Niceee

[eternal tendon]

It'd be funny to make a campaign where all the players are Bards and they're all just bros from their college.

[raw ocean]

Im thinking on what I should play for this new pbp I got into

Choices choices

[eternal tendon]

Battemaster Artificer / Cavalier Fighter multiclass, flavor your Battlemaster Steel Defender as a wheelchair. Do your best Joe Swanson impression

Dont break character and play him very seriously until your party starts to question if you're really playing Joe Swanson

[gray garden]

i still dont like the cleric

[glass granite]

May I ask why?

[eternal tendon]

Classes shouldn't matter as much as how you're playing them

[gray garden]

i mean the new cleric + hallow

[glass granite]

Oh I love that combo

[eternal tendon]

I think the first Cleric character I made was a Cleric of Community who sells propane and propane accessories

[slim glade]

5th edition DnD being the Cleric edition of DnD will always crack me up. That class is nuts

so many insanely strong subclasses

[valid geyser]

i mean 3.5 was also the cleric edition

[rugged hawk]

And yet not a single Water Domain in sight

Homebrew, my hero

[slim glade]

wow your right lmao. They don't have any water themed domains do they? lmfao

they have tempest cleric and that's it

[rugged hawk]

And they don't have a Dragon warlock patron, either.

[slim glade]

I feel like tempest cleric should have more water spells tbh

that's kinda its theme

[rugged hawk]

Also, Sorc has zero water subclasses, too

[slim glade]

doesn't sorc have that one useless one that gets flight?

[valid geyser]

i mean theres like four water spells so its not like you get that much

[rugged hawk]

There's plenty of ice and water / water utility spells

[slim glade]

or that is warlock?

yeah storm sorc

it sucks lmao

[rugged hawk]

Also, sorc not having a necro/undead subclass ticks me off, too

How dare wizards get one but not sorcs

[valid geyser]

i assume wotc really doesnt want warlock and sorcerer subclasses to share flavors

[fossil hollow]

... Shadow is there

[valid geyser]

like the closest two are GOO and abberant sorc, but ones more outer realm and the other is just general aberrations

[valid hatch]

Shadow magic sorcerer..

[slim glade]

out of curiosity, what class/sub class is Brent/Caleb in The Mighty Nein even meant to be? Is that also an original subclass for the setting?

[fossil hollow]

Caleb is a wizard iirc

https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Caleb_Widogast

Class
Wizard (School of Transmutation)

[slim glade]

thats what I thought, but I wasn't sure what kind of wizard. He also uses basically only competents for casting which is interesting. I've never messed around too much with wizard but I thought they weren't THAT reliant on spell components

[valid geyser]

all casters use components

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, all spells use components.

[valid geyser]

iirc Liam just liked narrating what components he was using

[fossil hollow]

And a lot of spells have material components. It makes sense that the transmutation wizard would focus on using their components rather than a component pouch

[slim glade]

Really? most DnD campaigns ive done the DM just checks if you have the money for the compenents and then your good

since there's gold value to the compenents usually

[valid hatch]

Well it depends on the DM

[slim glade]

ahhh that would make a lot of sense

[fossil hollow]

Kinda on flavor for a transmutation wizard to describe the matterial components they use

Law of equivalent exchange and trope and all

[valid hatch]

Fullmetal alchemist mentioned

[slim glade]

im kinda curious. I kinda wanna look and see what classes/subclasses each mighty nein member is, but I don't wanna spoil myself lmfao

i have assumptions but idk what's original critical role stuff and what's Wizards of the coast stuff

[humble spear]

Hear me out

If I used the spell “Command” on a someone in a campaign and since you need a single word for it, to use it like “Drop”

How bout if I said “Choke” or “Suffocate”

[fossil hollow]

Ask your DM

[slim glade]

i thought there was a ruling on command not being able to harm someone or something

but maybe there isn't lmao I never thought to use it like that

[ebon vapor]

"Choke" I can see getting monkey paw'ed tbh

[fossil hollow]

One reasonable interpretation is they choke/suffocate someone el- HOOVY

[ebon vapor]

[fossil hollow]

Yer back!

[ebon vapor]

took a break for college

[fossil hollow]

ah ic

[humble spear]

DMs what you doing if your player said this in a campaign?

[fossil hollow]

They are choking someone else

for 6 seconds

[humble spear]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-strangle-choke-the-simpsons-gif-10314569

[ebon vapor]

"Drop" is on the actual command list so like...they just do that

wait i'm actually illiterate

looking at letters in calculus made me forget how to read

[humble spear]

Rip

[snow zephyr]

I leave for 5 minutes

[humble spear]

Okay

[rugged hawk]

Just don't leave the dice behind unless you've got sanitizer

[humble spear]

DMs what if I used the command spell and told the person to Puke or the word Diarrhoea

[snow zephyr]

See: reddit copypasta

[humble spear]

As it’s not harmful but a inconvenience

[snow zephyr]

What you described is a copypasta on par with Vaporeon but for D&D

[humble spear]

Wait someone said this? Damn thought I was being smart

[snow zephyr]

Yeah, it's pretty old now

Also, command doesn't work like that

[stoic obsidian]

Finally finish the one shot

And the finishing move

Farmers Rage

[limpid plaza]

I hear spells, whom hast summoned me

[stoic obsidian]

You devoted follower Larry, and he asking you why you stole his cat?

[limpid plaza]

Whu

[tame forge]

Puke could work cause you can make yourself puke you cant make yourself have Diarrhea tho

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah that familiar you summoned is actually someone’s pet cat from another dimension

[hard bough]

hey could someone help me with something rq, i just got the obojima book but i wanted to set up character creation on dndbeyond is there a easy way to get the rule sets and subclasses on the online campaign?

[idle oar]

If you own the book in DnDBeyond, yes-ish (although apparently it only currently works with 2014 materials)

[hard bough]

i have the physical copy....?

[oak shoal]

So I wanna give one of my players a scare (a potential scare) by introducing a potential plot point for her character. I want to introduce a silly little puzzle called the dying angel. It involves a decently difficult puzzle that in the end has you make a con save and turns you into a semi demon. (They gain the fiend typing and get dark vision, as well as other things later on levels.) Are there any changes that I should make (obviously removing the curse would remove the effects)

[hard bough]

the question you have the ask your self how evil do you want to be?

[oak shoal]

👀 a tad evil

[idle oar]

Then you can use the DnDBeyond homebrew tools to create the different features needed (I'd suggest using custom feats and magic items to replicate some features).
Make sure to not publish it (you can use unpublished homebrew on your characters/campaigns).
Check in with folks in #ddb-support for technical help and questions on how best to accomplish something.

[glossy otter]

the fiend transformation from Grim hollow might work, but it incorporates third party

[radiant solstice]

Hey yall sorry to bother

Can a 2014 artificer make 2 bags of holding with his infusions at once?

[oak shoal]

Didn't realize I was getting help from John evil DM. I love this idea

[fossil hollow]

Only if you switch out one infusion at level 6 iirc

[glossy otter]

john evil?

[fossil hollow]

variant of the John [Thing] joke

John DnD, John Skyrim

[radiant solstice]

Dont u get 2 infusions at level 2?

[glossy otter]

ah

[fossil hollow]

yes, but you cannot choose two of the same

[radiant solstice]

Where does it say that if I may ask im reading ans it doesnt say anything like that

Maybe im missing it?

[fossil hollow]

oh wait, 2014 arti

[radiant solstice]

Using this infusion, you replicate a particular magic item. You can learn this infusion multiple times; each time you do so, choose a magic item that you can make with it, picking from the Replicable Items tables. A table's title tells you the level you must be in the class to choose an item from the table. Alternatively, you can choose the magic item from among the common magic items in the game, not including potions or scrolls.

In the tables, an item's entry tells you whether the item requires attunement. See the item's description in the Dungeon Master's Guide for more information about it, including the type of object required for its making.

If you have Xanathar's Guide to Everything, you can choose from among the common magic items in that book when you pick a magic item you can replicate with this infusion.

[radiant solstice]

Ye 2014 ver.

[fossil hollow]

i have this line right acfter the infusions list:

Unless an infusion’s description says otherwise, you can’t learn an infusion more than once.

Full text:

Artificer Infusions
Artificer infusions are extraordinary processes that rapidly turn a nonmagical object into a magic item.

The description of each of the following infusions details the type of object that can receive it, along with whether the resulting magic item requires attunement.

Some infusions specify a minimum artificer level. You can’t learn such an infusion until you are at least that level.

Unless an infusion’s description says otherwise, you can’t learn an infusion more than once.

[radiant solstice]

Ye but this is the line

Using this infusion, you replicate a particular magic item. You can learn this infusion multiple times; each time you do so, choose a magic item that you can make with it, picking from the Replicable Items tables.

[fossil hollow]

oh hmmm

yeah, actually not seeing a reason why they couldnt

[radiant solstice]

Exactly!

[empty thicket]

shame one cant like, replicate some magic effects from some items

like, i have a greatsword with some cold damage and i would like to have that cold damage in a longsword instead of a great one

but transfer or move such magic effect wont be possible

[timid current]

talk to your DM!

[fallow onyx]

is there any way to leave a scar on a vampire?

[timid current]

... see my previous post!

[fallow onyx]

Id rather my DM not know my plans... which is why i came to ask here.

[empty thicket]

i did, he wont let me at all, i will talk with him more deep about it with the artificer too. That the whole magic items is for her and my thing is the whole using the magic item for solving problems (Enemies))

[empty thicket]

welp, if blessed stuff or silver weapons can kill them, like cut their healing factor

that or use something sun related

[fossil hollow]

its better to run plans through with a DM instead of surprising them... they might run the rules differently than you imagine...

[timid current]

if you try to beat the DM instead of the antagonists you'll run into problems

[fallow onyx]

and if they do, i will either bargain for my sake or accept it didnt work. Telling my plans to my DM is like telling the enemies my plans

[timid current]

it really isn't

[fossil hollow]

See Dave's message above

[fallow onyx]

Except.. it is?

[empty thicket]

not at all, the dm is the one helping you all to go through the story

[fossil hollow]

also, that sounds like you need to talk about your DM about metagaming...

[fallow onyx]

Im not trying to "beat the DM" and im not sure where you got that impression

[empty thicket]

yeah, he is the one putting the obstacles in the path but its the one feeding you all with adventures, moments and more.

[fallow onyx]

I never denied this

[timid current]

a DM isn't your enemy. they provide you challenges. And enable you to do cool stuff

[woven flint]

I rise from my grave.

[glass granite]

So let them know what cool stuff you’re gonna do so that you know for sure you can do it

[fossil hollow]

ohmygod, Tokiis back

[glass granite]

I bow to the Lord of Goofy!

[lavish flame]

I don't actually think so tbh

[woven flint]

By my divine decree...

Uh... Nice to see you all

[empty thicket]

and if you say it before session its better because he can considerate it and find a way to make it fit into the campaign, better than suddenly doing it

[fallow onyx]

For some things this is true, but for specific questions such as "how do i scar a vampire" why would the DM tell me?

[lavish flame]

So that you can figure out how to do it

[glass granite]

Why wouldn’t they? I also imagine the answer is setting dependent

[rugged hawk]

Lathander wanted to let you know that undead are unwelcome and to go back to resting in peace

[timid current]

because they want to help you do something cool?

[empty thicket]

"Hey dm, look, i want to do this to a vampire for X reasons, can we find a way for it please?"

[fallow onyx]

I would have to figure that out by searching for ways and testing them

[woven flint]

The dm is supposed to work with the player because D&D is cooperative storytelling and cooperation requires more than one person

[timid current]

a good DM is the players' biggest fan

[empty thicket]

he wont pull out a 1d100 and drop you the number of that dice in baboons that will fight you

[fossil hollow]

and thats a problem because...?

Youre going to do it regardless...

[glass granite]

For example, some settings would say “no”, some would say “yes if it’s silver or a holy symbol”, some would say “yes if they’re weakened and haven’t fed”, there’s a few ways this can go

[lavish flame]

"Hey DM, If I wanted to scar a vampire, how would I go about doing that?"

"Well, it might need a wooden stake an an Athletics Check."

Now you know what you need to do.

[empty thicket]

in the best scenario, you fight 20 baboons, in the worst you fight a whole army of 100

[timid current]

"you'll need to dip a silver blade in holy water"

[fallow onyx]

"You can certainly try and find a way for it" is the response i would get, which makes sense, why would the DM spoonfeed information such as this?

[timid current]

it's not spoonfeeding

it's something that doesn't exist in the rules

[fossil hollow]

And why is that a problem theyre not going to tell you an outright answer?

[fallow onyx]

it.. isnt??? I never said it was

[fossil hollow]

So... why not work with your DM

[fallow onyx]

Because it would lead to nothing but him finding out my plottings.

[lavish flame]

This at least lets you know you can try to do it

[empty thicket]

then its giving you a hint to go for it, so you can ask to any related npc that might know how to harm//scar a vampire.
Isnt denying it, isnt saying you are dumb for that
Isnt adding another 2 d100 to the baboons number.

[fossil hollow]

and why is the DM knowing about your plans bad

[timid current]

if the DM knows what you'd like to do, they can help it be awesome

[glass granite]

Worse comes to worse, you lose nothing either

[timid current]

it can still be a challenge.

[lavish flame]

Knowing "I can at least try to do this" is usually better than springing something on your DM. Especially if there's an associated plan involved.

[fossil hollow]

If your DM is the type to just use knowledge the monsters wouldnt know about to negate your plan... is another problem entirely

[fallow onyx]

He isnt, i simply want to surprise him with ingenuity

[timid current]

well then here's the facts: the rules do not contain a way to scar a vampire. or anyone really.

[fossil hollow]

i fear you lost me then

[timid current]

sorry we cannot help you further

[glass granite]

Problem is, such “ingenuity” can often be shut down if the DM isn’t prepared to adopt it

But anyway, what Dave said

[fallow onyx]

I was just asking if there was any official rulings or perhaps suggestions on the matter, didnt know you would all take offense to how my sessions are run, but thank you for the help /gen

[glass granite]

-# I literally said it was setting dependent

[lavish flame]

Yeah, there's a good chance you come up with a solution like "Dip a silvered weapon in holy water" and it just doesn't work because the DM doesn't know what you're going for.

[fallow onyx]

"i dip the blade into the holy water, and attempt to scar the vampire in front of me"

[empty thicket]

In resume, no, there isnt an official way.
Should ask teh dm because he can give you a way to make it or give you the heads up to try it.
Better than directly denying it to you.

[woven flint]

My Genies Paladin "scarred" a Lich with a divine smite before it killed him, but that was part of a sacrifice so the rest of the party could escape the scenario

[fossil hollow]

because there isnt was the point

[fallow onyx]

right.. i gathered that

[lavish flame]

Yeah but then what happens if the DM just makes you do an attack roll with damage, neglecting any specialties about a scar. Asking your DM beforehand "how might I scar a vamp" can only be beneficial to your cause.

[empty thicket]

i thought it would be something more romantic honestly....
"You are with your wife vampire, both knowing you wont be eternal like her and she doesnt want to turn you into one of her kind, she pick up a silvered knife and tell you:
Put your mark on me so doesnt matter how much time happen, i will be always yours and i will make you one so everyone can know you will be always mine."
What mark would you do on her?
||Nat1, you kill your wife for accident.||

[fallow onyx]

This is very cute actually, but alas, I am the vampire, and i was attempting to find a way to mark my spawn by age/power/enumeration

[lavish flame]

Asking your DM reveals the possibility (cuz imo, you couldn't scar a vampire) of this endeavor, or it reveals a bit of the recipe for getting what you want.

[empty thicket]

thankies

[fallow onyx]

I get that, but i doubt thats how it would go down for me specifically. there is a reason why i came here instead of my DM instantly 🙏

[timid current]

do you feel your DM would be adverserial about this?

[woven flint]

I murder the vampire because I hate undead and also, vampires are usually way worse versions of who they were when they were alive 😎

[timid current]

they are monsters

[fallow onyx]

No, but also i dont know for sure what adverserial means

[timid current]

I am concerned that you answered without knowing what the question meant

[rugged hawk]

Did you consider googling 'Adversarial'?

[fallow onyx]

My character is indeed a much worse person then before, lol, forced edgelord

[fallow onyx]

I think i know what it means, and i know the general context of the word, so i answered

[normal junco]

an adversarial DM is one that considers the DM and the PCs as opponents trying to cause the other side to lose.

[fallow onyx]

Then still no :>

[glass granite]

Yay

[woven flint]

My Twilight Cleric destroyed a Vampire straight up even though the party wanted to attempt to keep him alive to question him
Said Vampire murdered both of a children's parents
Dol Arrah (his Deity) wouldn't let that slide as a mistress of vengeance

[glass granite]

Btw, won’t a tattoo work here?

[fallow onyx]

perhaps, i have researched how tattoos work and i dont think vampiric regeneration would disrupt the process

[empty thicket]

a magic tattoo maybe

[zenith wind]

it's the vampire's fault - they decided to be undead in the presence of a cleric

[normal junco]

there are magical tattoos in D&D, like its an actual thing.

[fallow onyx]

Im trying to gather all my options, then ill try them in descending order of (how much i like them) until one works, or nothing works

[zenith wind]

I love magic tattoos, it's just a shame the one i like the best is wasted on an aasimar

[glass granite]

Wait…
Silver tattoos maybe?

[fallow onyx]

Yes! its very cool, my campaign also has a city that outlaws magic, and has its own specific magic system based around tattoos/soul

[glass granite]

Extremely painful, I’d imagine

[fallow onyx]

Honestly, i didnt think silver harmed vampires, i was pretty sure that was fae/fairies and werewolves/lycan

[woven flint]

He actually didn't have a problem with undead, the party met a Vampire that feeds on psychic energy the same day and she was very friendly and gentle with people, she even agreed to protect the child because she experienced something similar when she was alive

[zenith wind]

vampires are more threatened by pointy wood

[fallow onyx]

specifically in the heart region

[normal junco]

however, if need be a tattoo's ink could possibly contain a very small portion of iron and/or silver. iron would be useful in regards to fey, and silver would be useful in regards to a number of undead beings.

[zenith wind]

which technically doesn't kill them

[empty thicket]

i want to get some magic tattoos in my wizard, so i can read my spells for emergencies.
The old good spell under the feet

[fallow onyx]

i know! vampires are hard to permanately get rid of, just paralyzes

[humble cairn]

"With my passive knowledge scores, what would I know about how to permanently harm or scar a vampire?"

[zenith wind]

"get stuck in the box, idiot!"

[fallow onyx]

The way tattoos work, i actually dont think so, it could just be regular ink

[fallow onyx]

I dont hve any passive knowledge sources on scarring a vampire. most of the stuff i know is because i have fought many vampires, and spoken in depth to my vampiric mentors

[woven flint]

Vampires in D&D are most threatened by...
Sunlight.
Find a way (spells) to produce sunlight and maybe then you can scar them

Or.. just kill them.

[glass granite]

Careful not to straight up kill them tho
Ope

[normal junco]

you could laser a tattoo

[fallow onyx]

my vampiric bloodline means i am immune to sunlight, and any of my spawn are aswell, so i may have to go with something holy or silver

[fallow onyx]

I have heard of lazer wielding dwarves somewhere round my campaign, so this could be viable if we find one

[zenith wind]

anything vaguely religious will hurt you, including gamer stations

[fallow onyx]

i know, oh and fire. maybe burn scars?

I take 3x damage from divinity and 2x from fire, its such astruggle being in the hot ass desert

[zenith wind]

your nemisis would be a river with legs

[woven flint]

My nemesis...
I miss him.

[humble cairn]

I meant the passive version of your History, Religion, or Arcana, etc. Living in the world, your character should have done sort of background knowledge about stuff, represented by your passive knowledge scores.

[fossil hollow]

hes in the VC with you rn

[normal junco]

its a case of the character knowing without the player having to know.

[woven flint]

I know, I'm not trying to interupyvSam, You, Horizon and Knome too much smh

[humble cairn]

You yourself are a vampire? Yeah you should definitely know something just automatically.

[fallow onyx]

.. why would i? Ive only been a vampire for 2 months now, and ive yet to see myself get scarred or another get scarred

[late jolt]

yo guys i just used a monkeys paw to summon vecna and orcus in my first DND session as a level 2 any advice?

[fossil hollow]

pray

[zenith wind]

roll to seduce

[fallow onyx]

I mean, i know automatically that fire, divinity, and wooden stakes are my counters tbf

[normal junco]

have they sided with you?

[woven flint]

Why.
Why would you do that?

[fallow onyx]

to them, pray to them

[late jolt]

well i summoned orcus by saying summon something to defeat vecna that wont attack us

[empty thicket]

Pray.

[humble cairn]

You have vampiric mentors? There's a lot of stuff your character should just know that you don't because you haven't lived every second of every day being them. This is represented by your knowledge scores. I mean it's not a guarantee that you will, just that there definitely should be stuff your character knows that you don't.

[late jolt]

first time playing?

[normal junco]

....let them fight...

[woven flint]

Orcus is the lord of Undead
Vecna is a Lich, I don't think they'd have beef

[late jolt]

they did vecna died but i was on the property of a original god made by my DM and both of the gods were VERY unhappy

[fallow onyx]

i had (1) mentor, in which i did not ask how to scar a vampire, so he did not tell me. I also have lived every second of everyday with my character since they became a vampire, it was mid-campaign

[late jolt]

techinly i asked for the hand of vecna and the entire thing came and well appearntly in this word vecna was dead for awhile so i resurected him

[woven flint]

That's on you, honestly /lh

[late jolt]

oh and my friends are stuck in a void