dnd-discussion

[heavy oxide]

"man one day i could just punch ghosts idk how"

[woven flint]

I AGREE WITH THIS! RAAAAGHHH

You'd still have to talk to your dm to see if it's allowed.

[leaden lodge]

Well I'm just saying it because the one person was asking about a doll

And that literally seems like a doll

[woven flint]

Ah, my mistake, original gangster 🧐

[heavy oxide]

i find it fun if you have a origin feat that gives you a little magic

the monk casts shield

[frail nimbus]

hey whats up guys

[woven flint]

Nah, mate, I'm going all in on the punching or all in on the magic (but also with punching, I love Gishes)

[heavy oxide]

i wish there was a proper magical monk subclass

that isnt just another 2014 elemental monk

[limpid zenith]

i wish there was a proper monk subclass in general lmao

[heavy oxide]

there is some good ones

[frail nimbus]

hey guys, if im having no like finding a dm or people to play with in the find a game section what should i do?? could someone please help me?

[stuck shuttle]

Do you not like any of the monk subclasses 😳

[woven flint]

I had this Tabaxi Elements Monk
His name was Sumatra
He ran up a wall to punch a flying dragon in the face and then later proceeded to kill said dragon without his elemental attunement, but, I decided to flavor it as if he had it on anyway
It was glorious
It was an Adult Black Dragon named Sablewing

[stuck shuttle]

If you wanted to use this server to find a group check out the instructions in #find-a-game !

[heavy oxide]

in one of the games im in im playing a elements monk he could up to a hobgoblin that was riding away on a worg

[frail nimbus]

yea ive posted my request days ago just no luck unfortunately

[heavy oxide]

i dashed into the forest after him he was bugging me cause everytime i got near him he would cast a spell like hold person and stop me just before i could do anything

[woven flint]

I'm gonna be playing a Centaur Berserker Barbarian soon

Very exited 👁

Glory Kill time!!!!

[heavy oxide]

sadly havent been able to play him in so long

[woven flint]

Oh, I was talking about new Elements Monk personally lol

[heavy oxide]

i am in another campaign with the same people

so was i

i 1v1ed a berserker barb and barely won

no one else wanted to fight it so the dance bard attempted to hit it with spells

[stuck shuttle]

Try browsing through #looking-for-players to see if any DM postings meet your criteria if you haven’t already

[heavy oxide]

i do prefer playing more dark fantasy games mostly because i love horror and it fits better in those games if im allowed

[mellow sequoia]

Welp i just got reject but it okay im pretty new and most want 18+ so it completely understandable

[limpid zenith]

iirc reddits r/lfg has a teen tag for younger people running/playing games so try there to find some people your age :)

[mellow sequoia]

Thanks!

[limpid zenith]

idk if its a full tag but I remember seeing a few games mentioning that theyre by/for teens yesterday when I was looking for games so, worth a shot

[chilly spindle]

Is there any scenario in which you'd use a longsword with two hands over a greatsword?

[sleek cloud]

2014 or 24

[pliant sapphire]

For the mastery or because your class/subclass doesn't let you use heavy weapons

[chilly spindle]

2014

[pliant sapphire]

(Then remove the mastery part 😂 )

[chilly spindle]

Which classes specifically exclude heavy weapons?

Ah, rogue has longsword proficiency specifically

[pliant sapphire]

Kensei monk and Bladesinger wizard? 🤔

[chilly spindle]

Intriguing

[sleek cloud]

I don’t think rogues are proficient in longswords, thought it was finesse or light weapons and some ranged

[limber trail]

They kinda require a few different stats and there’s not a huge benefit to multiclassing them (unless I’m missing something)

[fast latch]

Why do Githyanki have boobs if they hatch from eggs?

[umbral girder]

Because they just do

My guess it’s a left over of the race they used to be before becoming Gith by the Mind Flayers.

[crimson gulch]

Day 6 of my 13 game streak before I'm off for Christmas

[spring light]

it helps them balance.

[stark arch]

Qeustion about the Longsword it says "Sap. If you hit a creature with this weapon, that creature has Disadvantage on its next attack roll before the start of your next turn." wat is sap?

[glad arch]

Its the name of the weapon mastery

[stark arch]

ah ok. so this future works on every hit i make with this weapon?

[glad arch]

I havent played with the 2024 weapon masteries but as far as i can tell yes

Only their first attack though, so if they have multiattack their 2nd attack should be normal

[stark arch]

2014

oh wait that sap thing is a 2024 future?

[glad arch]

2014 doesnt have weapon masteries, theyre a 2024 addition

[umbral girder]

A special feature called a weapon masteries that Martial characters get with specific weapons d

Like weaker versions of Battle Master Maneuvers

[stark arch]

seems i cant use that since we gona use 2014 rules.

[glad arch]

If youre on good terms with the dm you can see if hes willing to add it as basically homebrew but its not a default 2014 thing

[stark arch]

hmm i look into that

[umbral girder]

Yeah also you do not automatically get a weapon mastery on a weapon

It’s a class feature (or a feat for 1 mastery)

[stark arch]

proficiency in that weapon doest count?

[umbral girder]

No

There is
-Proficiency in a weapon then there is Mastery over a Weapon

That’s one of the weaknesses of the 2024 Blade warlock for example. They cannot get Mastery over their summoned weapons (besides the new weapon master feat)

Same with Bladesingers and Valor Bards

Only Fighters, Paladins, Rangers; Rogues, and Barbarians can get Mastery over a weapon.

[stark arch]

my character is going to be a paladin oath breaker we start at lvl 3 and we can choose 1 uncommon item

[silk hare]

oh boy, what item do you ahve in mind

also what race

[stark arch]

Reborn, armor of the fallen plate variant dm aproved 😄

[silk hare]

what variant for the reborn/ ancestry?

[umbral girder]

My favorite fact about 2024 Fighter is they can eventually swap their weapon masteries out every time they hit an enemy

[silk hare]

seems nice for the character, altough not one of the "best" items

[umbral girder]

So they could change the Longsword’s Sap into a Push or Slow effect instead

[silk hare]

but seems to fit the chracter well :)))

[stark arch]

no clue stock traits as written on the page?? humanoid?

getting sage background with it

[silk hare]

Ancestral Legacy. If you replace a race with this lineage, you can keep the following elements of that race: any skill proficiencies you gained from it and any climbing, flying, or swimming speed you gained from it.

If you don't keep any of those elements or you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice.

you could take sth with a flying speed e.g. winged tiefling if allowed as thats kinda busted

[umbral girder]

My guess is rudolfhertz is using the DnDBeyond defaults than reading the books

[stark arch]

yea thats wat i did 2 proficiency in two skills of your choice.

[silk hare]

I see

[stark arch]

i do have the books but looking on the net is faster

[silk hare]

is your goal to have a "strong" character or just thematically sound?

[stark arch]

i also kind of found a way how to get 2 skeleton summons out of the animate dead spell that comes with the armor

[umbral girder]

Yeah looking on the net hides a lot of stuff too

[atomic kayak]

Yea notably you cannot choose any other thing at character creation

[silk hare]

depends on where you look :))))

[umbral girder]

Yikes

[silent pike]

My first ever pc died... That's a horrible experience...

[atomic kayak]

You can only take 2 skill profs at character creation. The "keeping from another species" bit is only if you become it during a campaign

[silk hare]

true I guess, but thats probably sth you could talk to your dm about

[stark arch]

making a character based from story from another game ( Heroes of might and magic 3 )

look up "straker" from homm3. thats wat im tryng to make my paladin oath breaker with its background story

[silk hare]

I see

[velvet marten]

What other tomes are there to read? I know theres the normal stat ones, then the martial skill one and the magoc resistance scroll. But is there any others?

[umbral girder]

What?

[silk hare]

wym?

[umbral girder]

Do you mean the magic items?

[pliant sapphire]

The tomes than increase one stat by two

[umbral girder]

So the magic items

Those are the only ones 5e has officially

[silk hare]

only for mental ones right? INT WIS CHA iirc

[umbral girder]

There is the constitution one

[pliant sapphire]

strength and dex too

[silk hare]

whats that one called? I only remember/ have found understanding, clear thought and leadership and influence

[umbral girder]

It’s called Manual of Bodily Health

[umbral girder]

What are their names?

Gainful exercise was one right?

[silk hare]

ah yeh found them

[stuck shuttle]

I think the Dex one is Quickness of Action iirc

[silk hare]

I was filtering for "tome" mb not manual lol

[pliant sapphire]

Manual of Gainful Exercise for STR, of Bodily Health for CON and of Quickness of Action for DEX

[umbral girder]

They work once every century too

[violet basin]

Why?

[silent pike]

Got beheaded by a group of headhunter

[violet basin]

Why

[umbral girder]

Oh yeah they can do that on a crit

Nasty monsters

[silent pike]

I planned to retreat but other team members meta pressing me into position, i ended up unconscious.
Then the battle end, they retreat and the leader just casually beheaded my lovely unconscious boy

[silk hare]

what book are those from?

[violet basin]

Characters die. It happens. Roll up a new one and get back in.

[umbral girder]

Ah I might be thinking of a different monster

I was thinking of the Mythic monster from Ravenloft that takes off heads on a critical hit

[stark arch]

if i see my whole party dyng i would cast invisibility and get the hell out of there

[silent pike]

I simply can't, his dead is too much for me... He's just an innocent boy...

[woven flint]

I know a few of my characters might die eventually, specially with how I play them lmao

[hearty bay]

An adventurer under the alias of Howard, the cow, also known as "coward"

[woven flint]

My Earth Genasi Genies Paladin died fighting off a Lich so the party could escape from the Shadowfell, truly a chad

[silent pike]

He only wanted to return home and reunite with his dad...

[woven flint]

My Earth Genasi's father was a Dao (Earth Genie lol), he would've been proud of his son for dying in combat

[hearty bay]

I'm afraid to lose my character, because my party certainly needs a tank and I don't wanna build another one, because they tend to be boring

[umbral girder]

And I am sooo sure your character will not die to another undead lord in the Shadowfell.

No way that happens twice in once campaign

[woven flint]

Sovis? No.. of course not!

[silent pike]

Well... My 62 hp can't stand 8 hogoblin and a giant hyena all at once...

[woven flint]

If Sovis dies, I'm bringing in the Big Guns (Reginald)

[silent pike]

At lv4 too

[umbral girder]

And I am sure he will not also die to a Undead Lord in <looks at planes> yeah ok it would not be the Shadowfell

[woven flint]

Reginald Montique Ferdinand Esquire!
The Giff Pugilist Leadeater 🧐

[silent pike]

I want my boy back....

He don't deserve to be dead like this...

[woven flint]

My Earth Genasi Paladin was Nowhere near strong enough to take down a Lich, but he fought anyway (Level 11 fighting a CR 20 lmao)

[umbral girder]

Incorrect

[woven flint]

Whar

[umbral girder]

Cr21

[woven flint]

Ah, yes, CR 21 lmao

[umbral girder]

There was no chance

[woven flint]

Rather die with Pride than lose the entire party 🔥

[silent pike]

Well different goal i think...

My boy just wanna go back home and hug his dad

[woven flint]

Well, Jabal would've liked to return home having vanquished Vecna, but it was his duty to maintain the pride of his family

"An Earth Elemental endures. You either stand like a mountain or you crumble into pebbles."

He fell pretty fast admittedly, but he did a Solid hit on the Lich and took 4 full attacks before dying

[silk hare]

Who says that he cant? Jusg have ypur patty keep holding on to the skull and once u get a high enough lvl cast true resurection or sth

[woven flint]

Well, they're level 4 at the moment he said, so it'd just be better to make a new character and play on, because even if he's resurrected at that point, he'll still be a level 4 PC.

[silent pike]

We ain't that close...

Well the camp is end at lv5

[silk hare]

Oh yeah i just meant as a nice completion to their story

[hollow stone]

what manner of campaign ends at 5????

[hot gate]

A short one?

[silk hare]

Sort of a tribute to their fallen comrade

[silent pike]

Phandelver...

[woven flint]

An official moduel. (Occasionally)

[hollow stone]

how sinister of them.

[hot gate]

That's not sinister, that's just deciding that you'll run a short campaign. You can do that.

[woven flint]

Phandevler is supposed to be a beginner adventure tbh (or can be)

[silent pike]

Well all the blame to DM for make us facing 8 hogoblin and giant hyena

[lament zodiac]

Hey people what's the dumbest way you have killed a creature you weren't supposed to kill
For me I technically killed a tarasque by jumping inside its mouth, stabing its heart over and over while guzzling health potions

[woven flint]

Look on the bright side, new character!

[humble cairn]

A hobgoblin killed my character's mastiff. I begged the Cleric to cast Revivify.

[hollow stone]

yea but i think there's a difference between occuring over a short duration and depriving people of the mechanics of like, 80% of subclasses

[lament zodiac]

Did the cleric cast revivify?

[shy stirrup]

And there was nothing you, or your party could have done to avoid this fate?

[humble cairn]

Oh, she did. Then I retired that dog to never go back into combat duty again.

[woven flint]

My Cavalier Fighter lost his childhood horse, I know the pain 😔

[hot gate]

You're not depriving them of anything if the campaign was advertised as 1-5 in the first place.

[silent pike]

...

[hollow stone]

i almost murdered a very important NPC by making them eat a berry that they thought was a cranberry but was actually a Berry Of Immediate Murder or smth (one of the teammates rolled a high enough Nature to determine that berry and a cranberry are not the same thing and stopped it from being eaten)

[marble lion]

Well that sounds weird

[silent pike]

I build a pacifist char for this camp only to be thrown into countless death encounter

[woven flint]

It's not meant to be insensitive, but your new character could carry on the legacy!

They could avenge your lad (either by player satisfaction or if they knew them in life)

[lament zodiac]

Your dm must have been so worried about losing a plot relevant npc lol

[marble lion]

Ok but also the dm is the one who made it a murder berry

This sounds kind of weird

[lament zodiac]

Lol yeah

[silent pike]

I planned to retreat but the oldbies in the party pressing me to stay

[marble lion]

Thats why you talk before a campaign and figure out whst kinds of characters fit it

[woven flint]

I've never played a character who's intentionally or unintentionally tried to kill an innocent NPC lmao

[hollow stone]

i think they just used a generic table for Foraging, which is where i got the berries

[silent pike]

I do

[woven flint]

I worry what my Centaur Berserker Barbarian might do when I play him, however...
🤔

[silent pike]

But as the camp progress, it's becomes a dangerous adventure

[lament zodiac]

I genuinely think my dm has tried to kill my barbarian off

[marble lion]

So you asked the dm if a pacifist character is appropriate?

[silent pike]

It's advertised as a newbie friendly, slow adventure

[hollow stone]

we learned OOC that the berry provokes a CON save and would have murdered a goat

[lament zodiac]

?

[silent pike]

But most of plater got bored and ask for combat

[woven flint]

They're talking to Tori

[marble lion]

Newbies still want fun

[hearty bay]

Is there a way to get expertise or proficiency on a new ability save?

[silent pike]

Yeah... But the oldbies wanted battle

[woven flint]

Resilient feat
There's no way to get expertise though
A few subclasses give you an extra save Proficiency too

[lament zodiac]

If you are a bard you get expertise

[reef tundra]

The resilient feat grants you proficiency in a saving throw you don’t have

[marble lion]

Hmmm

[woven flint]

Not on saving throws.

[reef tundra]

Not with an ability save

[lament zodiac]

Srry didn't see thag part of the text lol

[marble lion]

If the dm allowed a pacifist character and now made it impossible to use a pacifist character, thats on the dm

[silent pike]

They all said yes at session 0

[marble lion]

Sounds like a lack of foresight by everyone

[hollow stone]

it is important to realize that the satyr man very well could have just been a slightly modified Commoner stat block, so the berries could absolutely have just been like 1d4 Poison damage

[silent pike]

But now the camp is a mess since half of the players are roleplay focused

[marble lion]

Pacifists rarely go down well in dnd considering combat is at least 33% of the game

[severe agate]

Hello

[shy stirrup]

Imagine a party of all pacifists 🧐

[woven flint]

Frankly, I hate to say it
But having a completely pacifist character in D&D is rather.. pointless, as a majority of the game centre's around combat.

[marble lion]

People should have said no in session 0

[severe agate]

What about a full party of just cleric HAHAHAHHA

[lament zodiac]

An easy way to do that is be a cleric that only has spells to help the party

[reef tundra]

I am a-okay if a player wants to play a character who won’t kill, but a character who won’t fight is…

[hearty bay]

You could go for the mind control spell route and like, use command to send someone to the mines

[woven flint]

My Orc Monk was a "Pacifist" as in he wouldn't KILL humanoid creatures, but he'd still fight them.

[shy sorrel]

Hello!

[reef tundra]

They would tear the world atsunder

[silent pike]

Well i also focus on battle too, but I'm not that experienced to optimize my character

[hearty bay]

Using intimidation, persuasion and all possible charisma checks to convince enemies that the best route is away from you

[severe agate]

It would be overpowered ngl 😭

[woven flint]

Fun Fact:
If you're engaging in combat by aiding it, you're not being a pacifist.

[marble lion]

My cleric wouldnt defend himself but he would do whats necessary to save others, like the party, including attacks and killing

[simple cradle]

Which magic items that Artificers wouldn't be able to attune to RAW do you think should be able to attune to?

[hollow stone]

i mean the campaign where i almost committed a Involuntary Manslaughter is like, 95% rp/puzzles and 5% combat

[pliant sapphire]

You can convince bandits, thiefs, mercenaries. But dragons, undeads, elementals, monsters..

[lament zodiac]

Depends on your personal definition of it like a person who won't harm others can still help in combat with out harming another creature
Its honestly up to you how your charecter sees it

[woven flint]

In a world where adventurers often die, or have to fight to survive, why the hell would a pacifist even go on an adventure if they're aware that there's a possibility of unavoidable violence.

[lament zodiac]

Idk lol

[woven flint]

That's just me, though

[silent pike]

I do try to negotiate in the start of every battle but dm said nah and let the enemies attack

[hearty bay]

My barbarian is a pacifist. He once asked an enemy mercenary if he would take a dump on a merfolk protected beach, to which the mercenary promptly said "no". He then said that if he didn't want to become a turd at the shore, he should run away

[shy stirrup]

A D&D pacifist being unwilling to kill - but still willing to employ violence to achieve their goals - is not, by definition, a pacifist, but it's a useful and necessary dodge for a bit of that I shalt not kill flavour

[hollow stone]

i've really wanted to make a character with extremely high CHA whos entire ball is "pls no hurt me or my friends >.<"

[woven flint]

EXACTLY

[silent pike]

Well, the first and second session i did avoid some conflict

But not from the third till now

Well tori just wanted to complete the quest

[hearty bay]

The intimidation check worked, and by now the mercenary should've left the town

[woven flint]

You can swear not to kill people, and be like batman and just beat up the bad guys, but just because you're not killing them doesn't mean you're a pacifist

[hollow stone]

i think it's even an optional rule that, should a creature's HP become 0, the attacker can choose whether they're dead or unconscious

[hearty bay]

"I will not kill you, but I'll walk you through the plane of horrors and forever scar your mind, because you took away the last ice cube in the pot"

[woven flint]

My Cavalier Fighter tries to resolve things with words before combat because he doesn't LIKE killing people, but he'll still kill if he has to protect his party.

He wants to be the best Knight he can be, a person who understands the blights of other people, but if you're unwilling to negotiate, you're gonna have to throw down.

[silent pike]

The goal of my char is to complete whatever task they got and take money then go home (he got far away from home, now he wanna go back)

[hearty bay]

You might not convince a dragon to stop, but you can convince them that you came not as looters or enemies, but as fans

Imagine a bard walking to a dragon and offering to write poems about their deeds

[hollow stone]

in theory, you could also have a character who "doesn't kill people" but does fight and is really bad at aiming for non vital components

[silent pike]

I simply ran away if i see one...

[hearty bay]

A ranger specialized at hitting arrows to the knee

[stark arch]

selling starting equipment at season 0 and 1. a thing or avoid?

[reef tundra]

Shout out to the time a player asked if he could make an animal handling check in an attempt to tame… a Tarrasque

[hearty bay]

Gets disadvantage on persuasion checks against guards

[silent pike]

Well... I don't wanna be meta pressing by old fashioned players so i quit the camp for good

[jovial shadow]

Depends on the damage used

[woven flint]

"All it takes to make an ally is the building of trust. I put my blade down and turn away to my friends to tell them I trust you not to stab me in the back."

[hollow stone]

think like, Ready Or Not, like the objective is get everybody, even the hostiles, out alive but they really don't wanna surrender peacefully and you don't have a less lethal option

[soft hare]

Hey chat
I'm in a wizard battle and my friend casted second thoughts and doubt on me

How do I counter this?

[woven flint]

(But also if you stab my back you're a COWARD!)

[pliant sapphire]

"Can I pet that dawg??"

[reef tundra]

Pretty much it 😭

[woven flint]

That's hilarious

[knotty pasture]

Second Thoughts and Doubt are homebrew spells surely right

[woven flint]

"That's a weird cat!"

[knotty pasture]

What next, Gaslight and Manipulation?

[hollow stone]

Reaction Counterspell?

[marble lion]

I cast girlboss intervention

[hollow stone]

tbf that's just Lawful Evil Bard

[soft hare]

I'll do the gaslight bit
I don't know him deeply for manipulation spells

[knotty pasture]

Oh no I'm being taken seriously here

[woven flint]

My Cavalier Fighter also once stood in front of a charging Rhino to protect people he thought were innocent, he was wrong, they were poachers, but he kicked their asses afterwards

[soft hare]

She is a dude 😂

[reef tundra]

“Did I stutter?” /ref

[marble lion]

The girlboss im asking for isnt

[woven flint]

Aye..

Sign me up, chief 😎

[marble lion]

Divine intervention calls on your deity to take action

[glad arch]

Well...?

[soft hare]

*plays love on top

[reef tundra]

Their character is dead now

[glad arch]

Sounds like the tarrasque pet them

[woven flint]

Freaky thoughts... Freaky thoughts fade

Lovely weather we're having.

[soft hare]

I casted gaslighting on him

Pointing out that he puts himself over others even his own family who loved and cherished him

[woven flint]

He then hits you with an "And?"

It's joever from there if he does, chief

[soft hare]

I have no counter against that

[hollow stone]

"You're an irredeemable monster!"
"oh- uh- i, uh, What took you so long? IDIOT!" flick

[soft hare]

Other than call him out for being a massive 🫏

[woven flint]

"You're a horrible person!!!"

"Pssh, okay?" Starts mogging

[soft hare]

I can only think of one thing rn

I cast karma

[distant bay]

haii

[echo agate]

anyone got recommendations for books with a bunch of races, Think that's one of the things im focused on ATM, for artificer, heard of astral elves, they sound cool, but interested in hearing more options, given just might try something else for later campaigns

[distant bay]

is there any possible dnd game where you do it over message?

[hollow stone]

it sounds really funny, actually, to make a character who believes in karma (in which the universe is to sort goods and evils on its own), and in consequence, is literally just the most cartoonishly sinister person possible because "the timeline will sort itself as it is owed and due, i need worry not."

[harsh hinge]

Yep, that's play-by-post (PBP).

[umbral girder]

Monsters of the Multiverse has a ton of races

[distant bay]

is there a roll command for the dice or do I have to buy them?

[umbral girder]

They basically took nearly every races from adventures or small books at put them in one for 5th edition

[harsh hinge]

Depends on how the group plays, but you generally don't have to buy dice to play. Most folks just like 'em anyway!

[umbral girder]

Nearly. Some still were left out that were setting specific

[hollow stone]

you can google "dice" or "rng" and you'll get the accordant tools to dice or rng

[distant bay]

okayy thank youu ! Does it matter if I'm new to start a game? I know the basics and have been studying clerics alot

[hollow stone]

an rng is slightly different to dice but it fits the needs of randomness

[frail epoch]

Hey 👋

[crimson gulch]

Ahh, So hype, Tonight is my private exandrian game, tommorow is my Launch of my Brand New Moonshae islands campaign, Wednesday is the Shattered Teeth, Thursday is the Dunes of Calimport, Friday is the Dungeon of the mad mage, Saturday is a one shot, Sunday is the Tyrrany of Dragons, then im off for christmas

[harsh hinge]

Depends, honestly. Some folks will be welcome to teaching newbies, some won't. Just be honest and see how people respond. My take is you'll get farther if you've learned the rules to some degree.

[buoyant oar]

Shout out to the time when a player who just got 150$ worth of character art for a level 2 Paladin and stood in front of a Hobgoblin with Martial Advantage and said.

"Hit me."

[distant bay]

is there any break during campaigns?

[harsh hinge]

There's no one way. It's up to the group.

[woven flint]

Based

[distant bay]

ohh okay, how long are campaigns regularly

[buoyant oar]

Nothing like insta killing a paladin on a critical hit.

[echo agate]

that looks like an extensive list, do we have one for classes as well/subclasses, out of curiosity, to enrich the group in subclasses

[harsh hinge]

When you reply directly, please turn the toggle to OFF. It's annoying to be pinged when active in a conversation.

Again, it's impossible to say. It could be a matter of weeks, months, years. There are too many variables to give a general answer.

[buoyant oar]

Depends if you are playing 2014 or 2024

[distant bay]

okayy thank you

[echo agate]

2024

[woven flint]

I would've done the same as the Paladin fr

[buoyant oar]

The only subclasses that have been released in addition to the PHB is Forgotten Realms Heroes of Faerûn.

[echo agate]

fair enough, thank you for your help, mgiht go with spelljammers, thus far astral elf is the one that interests me the most
Partially because we got Volos guide to monsters and the new artificier, so stuff like kenku, Changeling and a couple of others some 2014 packs are unlocked

[sullen ingot]

My group does a 2 week hiatus around major holidays(one week before and one week after), but this is far from standard.

[stark arch]

qeustion the character sheet has 3 places to write ur weapons in it ant atk bonus dmg type, does that mean you can have 3 weapons on the ready? or does switching weapons take a action no mater where you have stored?. does switching a weapon take 1 action or 2 ? like first you stow away your weapon than draw another one? from your hilth? belt? backpack?

[still plover]

Pretty common, though, especially at the end of the year.

[still plover]

It's just a list. Could have six lines on it, it doesn't matter. The rules and your class features are what count.

[stark arch]

so switching a weapon does that take 1 or 2 actions?

[still plover]

Something like, you can draw or sheath a weapon for free as part of an attack, and you get one free item interaction apart from that on your turn.

[teal hazel]

Ben 10 is a cool druid idea

[umbral girder]

Sometimes spamming Shapechange is fun

[still plover]

Here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/playing-the-game#Actions and here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/playing-the-game#YourTurn

[teal hazel]

I mean, he does use just one shapechange for like 90% of his encounters

[umbral girder]

A lot of nail shaped problems for his hammer

[cursive fjord]

Man i really wish they would add Sebastion Crowe Guide to Drakkenheim on DDB, I really like the Apothicary class and not a fan of having to NOT use DDB

[naive dirge]

is a village tavern the best campaign starting point.

[hushed mason]

Not necessarily. You could also give your players a common employer or have them as members of a common faction before play begins.

This helps provide them with motivation to work cooperatively rather than just being a bunch of strangers that are expected to form a group and do something.

[stark arch]

nah the graveyard is, or a battlefield as looters

[naive dirge]

What 2 do when i am DMing and one dude just fights everyone and no quest can begin bc he kills every NPC

[hushed mason]

You remove that player from the table.

Or you start again and tell them that they need to work cooperatively with the other players. D&D isn't a solo game to go running around killing everything...

I mean, it COULD be, but as the DM, you can make it clear that's not the kind of game you want to run.

Alternatively, you put a really big, powerful NPC in their path that they can't kill.

[harsh hinge]

I think communication is the path forward. If they don't adjust as a result of that conversation, they don't get to play anymore.

[hollow stone]

yea, players can't regard a campaign as a genocide run because most campaigns are fundamentally not programmed for that

[hushed mason]

The players at the table have to understand what the game is about. Working together and picking up a plot hook is a convention of the game. That means that it happens regardless of how 'unrealistic' it may seem.

[echo agate]

is spelljammers considered under 2014 or 2024 edition?

[hollow stone]

2014, yea

[umbral girder]

Printed in 2014 but still useable in 2024

[hollow stone]

there's always the ol' "this NPC is a retired adventurer who knows Hypnotic Pattern"

[umbral girder]

Unless it gets reprinted it usually applies to both versions

[echo agate]

fair enough, curious because we're slowly moving to 2024 it seems

so in a way, kind of afraid of getting something that people might not be interested in due to moving out of that

[tawdry sentinel]

It does get a bit wooly if you start trying to do a lot of things. Free hands and object interactions etc.

[marble lion]

caveat being that its the DMs job to present a scenario that doesnt completely obliterate the players belief in the world

but yes players should make characters who are interested in going for plot hooks in general

[hushed mason]

Absolutely. That's why giving them a reason to work together aside from just hanging out at an inn and waiting for the plot to happen is a good idea.

[echo agate]

is there anything that wont work between the 2024 rules + spacejammers?

[lavish flame]

Probably not

[hushed mason]

For my game, the players all started signing a contract to work for a new employer. That made it easy for them to work together and follow the orders given to them. In one game I played, we all started by responding to the same "help wanted" ad.

[marble lion]

any general changes like racial bonuses gone, maybe some half-somethings in the book, changes to mechanics like physical bludgeon resistance etc

[lavish flame]

The weapons on board are all Siege Equipment, so they can just use 2024 Siege Equipment rules. The ships all come with their own information, so using that is fine.

[marble lion]

and anything that doesnt work can probably be adapted easily

[minor lake]

Yeah the only thing I can really think of would be new classes but they're generally pretty compatible

Think of it as a spelljammer stress test for 2024 lol

[lethal grail]

Does anyone know of an in-person dnd group near Denver, CO?

lol probably not in the right chat for that question

[feral fulcrum]

You mean Spelljammer?

[echo agate]

Yes

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah anything designed for 2014 stuff will have zero conflict with 2024 rules. Because they only add/tack on things.

[minor lake]

#find-a-game might be better or #looking-for-players , #looking-for-community

there's a lot of options
be careful tho there's some weirdos out there

[feral fulcrum]

Your'e also better off looking at local game stores and the like as well

[lethal grail]

okay thank you! will keep in mind. I wasn’t sure what chat to put it in, theres a lot

[minor lake]

yeah honestly, local game store or a group of friends who are down to try

[lethal grail]

Game stores sound like my best bet, thanks!

[fading musk]

Personally I would look elsewhere but to each their own

[quaint parcel]

Hey there!

[lethal grail]

Whys that? Are game store sketchy sometimes? what would you recommend?

[violet basin]

No risk of death makes d&d boring.

Just bring in innocent boy jr

[buoyant oar]

Head hunters?

Head hunters don't kill innocent people usually.

[hard jetty]

Has anybody here read the new artificer2024 rulebook and can give me their opinion on it?

[buoyant oar]

I have read it. It's fine. Cartographer is neat. If you want an hyper detailed breakdown of it #optimization might by your spot.

[lethal grail]

is it worth it to buy the dnd players handbook e5 and a dice set?

[idle oar]

Do you like the game enough to make that feel like a good deal?

If you’re just starting out the free rules and a digital dice roller will be enough to help you find out if you like the game enough to invest in it more.

[buoyant oar]

Which players handbook? There are two of them now.

Red spine is newer. Black spine is older.

If you have never played before. I would not buy it yet. Find a game and use the Free Rules. If you do like it. Then get the Red Spine.

[hushed mason]

You may also find that you have to run a game yourself in order to get to play. That's what I had to do.

[buoyant oar]

But if your group says 2014 only. Get the black spine.

There has gotta be a better way to explain that to a newbie that I am missing.

[hushed mason]

I think you're doing quite well.

[hollow stone]

yea i feel like officially calling it 5.5e would be preferable to the current spine system because i just learned this lol

[hushed mason]

Referring to it by colour makes me think of Pokemon.

[buoyant oar]

And while '14 and '24 is good in text is a mouthful in conversation

[shy stirrup]

Seek the tome with a spine the colour of a moonless, starless night...

[hushed mason]

Do you think 2014 will phase out like 3.0 did?

[buoyant oar]

It already has

[opal wharf]

Has it?

[jagged vigil]

Session night tomorrow, and I'm struggling to restructure things. Over the first two sessions the players have noticed a lot of the rising tension before the first conflict, leading to them getting involved before the inciting incident. The first conflict was going to be about rescuing kidnapped nobles from a local villain, but now the heroes are jumping in to adventure while the villain was still setting up the kidnapping, and hasn't gone through with it yet. The party is clearly frustrated about not understanding what's going on, so I want to find a way to go ahead and clue them in quickly. Any thoughts?

[hushed mason]

Then I would suggest to anyone that they buy the older version.

[lethal grail]

im EXTREMELY new to dnd, never played yet. still in the jist of creating my first character, but i prefer a hand-on book to a pdf, and I think the dice are sick so it would be cool to have either way. Im playing with a group (hopefully) for the first time next week so ill see how that goes.

[hushed mason]

Is it possible for the players to prevent the abductions?

[buoyant oar]

When I mean that it's phased out, I mean that Wizards of the Coast is not going to produce any more content for that version of the game. Some third parties still are, but the vast majority of them, especially over on the DMs Guild are even updating their old products to work with the new versions of the rules

[jagged vigil]

Maybe, but then we go from a quest with big bad monsters at the villains lair to just the villain's mooks he sent to do the kidnapping. It'll be kinda below their paygrade

[lethal grail]

I feel like I need a dictionary to know what any of this means

[buoyant oar]

There will always be player holdouts in people who are too stubborn to move on to the newest provision of the game.

In 3rd Edition the reason why that level of people who played the original third Edition versus 3.5 so small is because 3E had a very short lifespan

[buoyant oar]

So if you're playing with your first group, do you know if they are using the 2024 rules or the 2014 rules?

[jagged vigil]

Lord Kas, you're working on a FR project?

[lethal grail]

not sure, ill ask!

[buoyant oar]

I am. It's not an official of course, and it has no mechanical value. It is a giant map of the Forgotten Realms as well as a travelogue across all regions. Think of the atlas map that came out for the new books, but more detailed and for the entire planet.

[jagged vigil]

Very cool! Volo or Elminster again, or do you have a new character cataloging the Realms in your text?

[hushed mason]

You're right! There are so many acronyms. But the folks here are friendly, so if you need something explained, just ask.

[jagged vigil]

One year as a gift from a player I received an older FR sourcebook I didn't already have, annotated in full by that player's 20th level adventurer. Meant the world to me

[buoyant oar]

It's a new character, but part of the journey will be in the various regions of the Realms. We want to have NPCs for DMs to use. So there will be 200 200 NPCs with full body art, both canonical ones and Homebrew ones.

To give DMs a little bit, we're doing three Adventure hooks one paragraph long for each of the 200 regions. So 600 Adventure hooks

[jagged vigil]

If you're able yo DM me any information, I'd love to hear more! Sounds right up my alley

[buoyant oar]

Were also home brewing out the continents that never got touched like Osse, Katashaka, And a continent from Ed Greenwood's home game that's never made an appearance in official products.

[buoyant oar]

Sure, send me a request and I can talk more

[jagged vigil]

I honestly thought surely I already had in the past. Thanks!

[wheat glade]

guys i have a question

to make eric draven(the crow from the movie) is it better to make it an undead monk or warlock???

[buoyant oar]

The crow from what movie

[wheat glade]

from the crow

[dapper cloud]

The movie, the Crow.

[wheat glade]

with warlock i can even give him the qctual crow

[wheat glade]

he's an undead man who came back a year after his death to kill his/his wife's murderers

[hushed mason]

There are two movies called The Crow.

[wheat glade]

the old, more popular one

[hushed mason]

Plus a sequal to the first one.

[wheat glade]

the first one and the sequel, the new one IMO sucks

[hushed mason]

The new one, you mean?

[wheat glade]

"the crow" and "the crow-city of angels" i thjnk is called

[wheat glade]

ye srry i messed up😭🙏

i js woke up

[hushed mason]

I don't know how you could do it in Fifth Edition, but in 3.5e, there's a supplement called Ghostwalk that would probably work.

[wheat glade]

there's also the revenant i think???

or is it the same as undead???

as the name, revenant sounds more right

[hushed mason]

There's also a template in 3.5e for playing an undead with class levels called a Necropolitan that would also potentially work.

[wheat glade]

nice, thanks

[hushed mason]

IDK what Fifth edition has for playing undead characters with class levels.

[wheat glade]

it also needs to look as human as possible if it doesnt compromise it too much

[buoyant oar]

I think reborn is the only thing that comes close

[wheat glade]

did one of you waych the movie?

[hushed mason]

I've seen them. Ages ago, though.

[lethal grail]

they are using the 2014 rules

[wheat glade]

same, i rewatched it and am also drawig a portrait👀

[hushed mason]

My husband is a big Cure fan, so it was a thing when they came out.

[wheat glade]

wooooo, so am i

also deftones in the second movie🙏

[buoyant oar]

So if you wish to get a player's handbook get the one with the fire giant on the cover. With the words player's handbook at the top and with the black spine

[hushed mason]

Our first date was a Cure concert. A million years ago. Can't say I'm a huge fan, but I know a few of the songs.

[lethal grail]

sounds cool, thanks!

[wheat glade]

imo they are pretty good, they give a good mood with the songs

[buoyant oar]

You know I was thinking about how this could very easily be resolved with the word revised

[wheat glade]

so should i make an undead warlock with good agility and acrobatics(idk how to spell it srry)???

[knotty pasture]

Acrobatics is probably not needed, but 14 dex is always nice

[hollow stone]

i mean 5e Revised might work too, but 5.5e is different enough from 5e to eliminate like 90% of mistakes

[buoyant oar]

I mean it worked for Pathfinder

[wheat glade]

i mean to make the crow

[hollow stone]

oh, might work then, i haven't played pathfinder

[knotty pasture]

Uhh you can probably do the same without acrobatics, flavoring is free

[buoyant oar]

All of their new books say Second Edition Revised

[umbral girder]

Do they? Mine doesn’t and it’s the new one.

‘Maybe I missed it

[buoyant oar]

I could have swore you. The revised remaster made it somewhere on the books. They also did rename some of their books like instead of a generic core rule book. There is player core and GM core and NPC core

Npc core seems like a book 5e could use.

[hushed mason]

Would have been easier if they'd just called it 5.5 officially.

[shy stirrup]

So why didn't they? 🤔

[hushed mason]

Who knows why WOTC does anything?

[shy stirrup]

True

[buoyant oar]

I understand why. The difference between third Edition and 3.5. Was a big difference. Much larger than what we have now.

This Edition refresh is much like the 1995 reprint of the second edition books. Which also had the same confusion that happened around these books release. Where one of the first pages in the 1995 players handbook was a letter from the editor stressing that it was not a new Edition.

[still plover]

The SRD says it's version 5.2.1, so yeah.

[buoyant oar]

But in today's world, utilizing terminology like revise or remastered would have been very good.

Heck, D&D 5e already did this with some of their supplemental material.

When they remade the dungeon master screen from the first 5th edition iteration to the second version, they called it reincarnated.

[hushed mason]

So call it 5.25 😉

[shy stirrup]

I remember looking at that reprint and thinking, naw I'll just keep my 1989 versions. Maybe embracing ambiguity can improve book sales?

[umbral girder]

Should be noted this isn’t even the first time they updated and replaced the core rulebooks for 5e

This one just came with fixed mechanics

I don’t even know if it’s the second time either

2017 is one notably update I remember

[buoyant oar]

I mean errata always has been a thing.

[still plover]

This one comes with a price tag, though.

[hard jetty]

Im interested in how the new alchemist and artillerist look like

[echo agate]

is there anywhere inside the EU selling the physical copies to spelljammer+

[buoyant oar]

Yeah I can respect that though with the amount of changes and updates to core concepts like classes. And monsters.

Just the keeping it all one edition is and will be a confusing mess for new players. Until the black spine books are completely out of print.

[honest mesa]

Good day Adventurers, This is a request for a DM that will be able to assist newcomers to DND on specifically TableTop simulator there are 4 of us, we would also like help to make our characters by rolling stats :p

[reef tundra]

#find-a-game

It’ll give you instructions on how to find a DM

[sacred pilot]

Where do I start with non 5e Eberron?

[still plover]

I bet TTS has a Discord or forums or something, too.

[lyric idol]

Get a non 5e eberron book. Just about every edition has one except OSE, ADND, and I think 1e?

[hot reef]

The Eberron Discord server has some people that work on conversions for other systems (non-D&D)
The original books were in 3.5e, and there are a small amount in 4e

[stark arch]

as a reborn race i only need 4 hours of rest instead of 8, would this be idea to take tool profs at lvl 4 so i can craft items durning these hours ? or should i get something else instead ?

[still plover]

Check out the proficiencies first, see what kind of things you might be able to make.

[stark arch]

since i get to choose from 3 profs smithing, carpenter, and thinkering would give me a great varianity of stuff right?

meh i think would be beter just to get the alchemy jug abuse that and buy the things i actualy need and get a proper feat

[marble lion]

do you think the DM will let you abuse stuff?

[stark arch]

abuse. more like proper use of the item as described it says wil do 😉

[abstract beacon]

What is an appropriate challenge for a lvl 1 party of 6?

[stark arch]

Blue adult dracolich

[abstract beacon]

I was between that and a demilich

How many orcs can they fight ya reckon?

[stark arch]

try a phase spider

[sacred pilot]

I´ll go and take a look. Eberron´s the last server I need to go unbanned in since I resolved a certain little hacking issue from a while back

[woven flint]

Ladies n Gentlemen and all in between, I have BALLER news.

My Wyrmling (My Wizards "Daughter") started her dragon hoard, I'm so proud as a Father!

Brings a tear to me eye

[glass granite]

Hi so proud as a Father, I’m Nugget!
And congratulations!

[woven flint]

You're about to be a consumed nugget.

[glass granite]

No, I’m Nugget. Who’s “About To Be A Consumed Nugget”?

Sounds like a very long name

[woven flint]

I DESPISE you >-> /j

[glass granite]

:D

[mellow sequoia]

Hey i feel like it would be easier for there to be looking for players teens cause it kinda hard to know if they willing to

[idle oar]

Folks can put in their desired age ranges for players (just don’t share exact ages or make the age range to narrow)

[remote wadi]

Is it weird that I don't really feel like playing a race that isn't humanoid?

I.e. dwarf, Halfling, and human

[still plover]

Nah.

[glass granite]

Everyone has their preferences

[spice flint]

My friends also usually play humanoids with my best friend exclusively playing human fighters so I think it's fine

[remote wadi]

Actually, there is a different question i think should be asked

Is it weird that I want to put a lot of thought into my characters for the purpose of making them memorable?

[hushed mason]

No, of course not.

[glass granite]

That’s like the most normal thing I’ve ever heard you say

Though, I think you put a lot of thought in the wrong things (particularly, your build) but that’s also pretty normal

[spice flint]

That's a common thing to do yeah, gives your dm a lot more concrete things to work with if they want to integrate your backstory into a campaign

[hushed mason]

Yes. It's nice to have things in the background that possibly can be worked into the plot.

[winter patrol]

hey guys my friends are starting a new campaign, my friend loves playing warlock, exclusively warlock, (their willing to play others but they have most fun w them) and often love playing warforged or succubus, do you guys have any suggestions for races? she loves elden ring and warframe, they want to explore outside of warforged but are sorta stuck on what race to do, do you guys have any suggestions? the campaign is homebrew and all we got told is we're gonna explore the land in a flying pirate ship

sorry if this is the wrong place to post, just tell me and ill delete and send elsewhere ^^

[spice flint]

a tiefling should work unless they don't exist in your world? unless by succubus you mean tiefling, in which case a half elves gets charisma

[raw ocean]

Just make sure to remember all of it for the moment when the DM says "Random guy with your clans insignia pulls up"

[jovial shadow]

Same. I am always human until I learned of the Aasimars (back when they could only be humans).

[steady bloom]

ive found a dnd group 10 minuetes away from my home

[minor lake]

epic!!!!

[steady bloom]

im making a monk/cleric multiclass based on jay walker from ninjago

[simple girder]

Would it work if I use true polymorph on someone, then put them in resilient sphere and the remove true polymorph?

[winged canyon]

When issuing the Craft order to a Workshop in your Bastion, does each hireling craft a different object or do all three work on a single object?

[hushed mason]

Does fifth edition have crafting rules? If not, I can tell you how it would work in third...

[lyric idol]

2024 does with the new bastions and mobile bastions.

[winged canyon]

Yeah, in the 2024 phb there's rules for crafting equipment and nonmagical items

Even without Bastions players can craft if they have the tools, materials, and time

[coarse ravine]

It's hard to say. Level 2 you can definitely challenge them a little more. Level 1 anything can take ya out.

Pack of rats with really nice rolls amd really bad rolls from the party.

[abstract beacon]

There’s 2 fighters a sorcerer a warlock a paladin and a guy who hasn’t decided yet

[coarse ravine]

I mean... not to be basic but if you are unsure

Giant rats can help ya future balance.

They have to clear the giant rats

Cr 1/8 put like 5-7 in there. They only have 7 hp

[abstract beacon]

Listen , I have planned as a first encounter that as theyre being transported as prisoners and are about to be executed, the guards get ambushed by orcs, they then get freed by a terrified guard and are forced to fight their way through the orcs until reinforcements arrive( just until the few orcs are dead)

[glass granite]

Can’t they run?

[abstract beacon]

Surrounded

I was also going to give them a guard captain as an ally

[coarse ravine]

What if...

Party befriends the orcs

Without the orcs the party is gonna get executed... Just sayin

[abstract beacon]

I mean

Theyre in the midst of battle

[coarse ravine]

Hahaha. Just plan for that 20% window of the unknown player hahah

[abstract beacon]

I too could try to befriend the abominable yeti that’s currently eating a passerby

[coarse ravine]

Oh idk. I figured they were in prison bout to get executed. Orcs attack the establishment. The prison guards try to free the party to help them not die

[wispy pollen]

Hey, in which channel can I ask questions about DND in general because I'm a total newbie

[abstract beacon]

I think I have planned it so that they get attacked once they reach a village and are just outside of it

I’m not sure yet I have a couple of weeks to prepare

[coarse ravine]

Well maybe let the npc tell them in character. "Orcs take no prisoners" as well as discuss a orcs appetite. You don't have to... but if I was freed from captivity id show appreciation to whatever freed me lol.

[abstract beacon]

The guard freed them

[coarse ravine]

But it could be a "orcs take no prisoners thing"

[abstract beacon]

Supposedly

[knotty basin]

Hear me out: if you break trinket 42 (8-ounce, glass wine bottle that magically reassembles itself 1 minute after being broken) from wild beyond the witchlight, and then trick a bunch of enemies into eating the shards, it’ll rip through their stomach in 1 minute

[hushed mason]

What kind of questions?

[wispy pollen]

All kinds

[echo agate]

i wanted to ask about plans, so i see 4 slots checked, but isn't it only 2 i can craft at a long rest and keep up a day

[hushed mason]

I guess you can ask them here, and we can redirect you?

[coarse ravine]

Nah I like your planning and im not tryna sabotage it at all. Im simply saying from a players perspective.
If that guard in front riding the carriage that was just talking trash to me. 20 minutes away from my death..now is wanting my help after im free.
I look to whatever caused him to set me free and I show appreciation. Im also speaking in hypotheticals. You should be good tho.

[abstract beacon]

I could simply change the penalty to life or that they’re on their way to trial

[hushed mason]

There is a channel called #dnd-newcomers that might be a good place to start.

[wispy pollen]

Thanks

[coarse ravine]

Yes or just put in that tidbit about no prisoners. Some armies don't take prisoners especially in fantasy. ||Witcher scene thats what the grandma said to the child||.

But yeah idk how many orcs are a good balance for level 1 tho. They are hard to balance for.

As in the orcs take no prisoners^

[abstract beacon]

In the campaign we just finished 5 of us fought 4 or 5 goblins I think so I wanna switch it up as a first time dm now

[coarse ravine]

Like your npc guard could say that while scared if pcs think about having tje bright idea to befriend the orcs

[coarse ravine]

Id level em up to 2,3 after first session or few sessions. Just makes it easier for you as the dm to throw stuff at them

[abstract beacon]

Yea after first encounter they always lvl up

[lyric idol]

Switch it up, give them a dragon as their first encounter. Objective: Survive

[echo agate]

wanted to just confirm quickly the rules of artificer 2024

you get 4 Arcane plans
can craft 2 per long rest yes? and they disappear post long rest,

what's the use this feature +4 times per long rest, is it just the ability to swap them out with others

[abstract beacon]

I have a side quest where they fight a green dragon wyrmling

[lyric idol]

You make 2 and then the next long rest you make 2 more.

[lyric idol]

That sounds exciting. Anything to do with dragons between level 1-5 sounds like a fun encounter.

[coarse ravine]

Cause level 1 you are definitely baby sitting hahah. Not as in you. Me personally I don't mind killing the players if they do something stupid and have terrible rolls etc. But I hate doing it and would rather do it when they are experienced enough to seek the danger they are getting into. Like they can always take the easier roads but if they seek the more danger roads. Danger comes along with it.
But thats just me, Im too worrisome ima kill level 1s lol up to you and your playstyles tho

[echo agate]

So ye, you always can have 2 up, uses are replacements

What about in terms of downtime? or attunements between rest, can manifold tool be attuned to others since they're supposed to disappear per long rest, or is it just up for DM to decide whether it's allowed for Artificer to "uphold" it

i mention manifold tool, but this would essentially be all items that should be attuned to others than the artificer

[coarse ravine]

Boom

[abstract beacon]

You should see when they go into a ruined dwarven mountain base and find a shadow dragon lair later on in the game

[coarse ravine]

First they think the enemy is the guard.
Then they think the enemy ks the orcs.
Then a dragon flys over and sees a bunch of food

Narrate how ya wish^ lol

[abstract beacon]

If I put a dragon like that it’s just gonna turn into the intro for Skyrim

[coarse ravine]

Oh wow... I didn't even think of that

Touche lmfao hahahahahahahaha.

[echo agate]

next campaign is just that, the entire skyrim story narratively written, change the names and see how fast everyone catches on

[abstract beacon]

Only 1 of them knows Skyrim as well as I do

[echo agate]

he's gonna be staring DAGGERS at you when some NPC tells him he's in whiterun

or the jarl is asking you to help with the dragons

[abstract beacon]

I know

[echo agate]

before the game, quickly talk to him privately, YOU ARE NOT TO SAY ANYTHING. PLEASE

and then he catches on

[modern mist]

Err... I actually haven't played dnd before. How did you guys find dnd mates?

[echo agate]

real life friends got me, but otherwise there's a #find-a-game

[lyric idol]

I think its vaguely up to the DM on downtime swapping, I'd allow it but reading here it isn't really specific. Idk why it's 4 plans and 2 magic items when usually its 4 plans and for 4 magic items in 2014.

[abstract beacon]

University

[echo agate]

In 2014 it was maintaining upkeep on 2 items as well i'm pretty sure

4 infusions learned that could be swapped out

[lyric idol]

All I'm gonna say is my DM and I read it wrong last time I played artificer. Oops

[echo agate]

man, so did mine, I started artificer with Literally NO ONE IN THE GAME KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT

i was wrong about infusions, The flavor casting, everything....

[wild marlin]

I need some help, me and my DM have a plan where I betray the party and have to kill 4 others as a level 15 fighter (they will be around lvl 12)

[echo agate]

how would you be in need of help? just ideas on who to focus or what are you looking for? to reason with the moral dilemma?

[wild marlin]

How to actually pull this off

[abstract beacon]

So here’s the story so far: We start on the island Of Dragonmaw (named for being shaped like a dragons head with wide open jaws), in the kingdom of Baronia , its split into 4 regions: general (mostly human) middle, top left elves, top right dwarves and bottom part orcs( orcs are still wip). The island was once home to many dragons but as of long ago events which I haven’t thought about , the dragons were reduced by a major amount in numbers, but with recent skirmishes and raids from the orcish region into other regions, and the sudden slight resurgence of dragons , the party must investigate the cause behind these events as they scout the land. That’s what I thought about so far

[echo agate]

we'd be missing most of the information, such as classes and the like, we don't know what you're facing, what situation it is in, everything

[wild marlin]

There is a barbarian human cleric kobold Druid human who is a tank and tabaxi rouge

I am a human fighter

It’s in a hall and I got a war horse to help me

[still plover]

Personally I don't fancy your odds. One on four is bad numbers if you're all using PC sheets.

[wild marlin]

Dam

[still plover]

#dnd-media , perhaps?

[slow wharf]

oh apologies ill ask there

[worn smelt]

planning to get a cloak

[umbral girder]

Is it the Cloak of Billowing?

[sleek cloud]

I have got to get one of those

Our groups barbarian currently has that and a shiny gold scale mail armor of gleaming

[worn smelt]

actually wait this should go in non dnd

[umbral girder]

Amusing small homebrew I got the idea of

When Kas is wielding the Sword of Kas it gains the properties of Sword of Sharpness

At least it would have been neat in 2014. Since the new one doesn’t take off limbs.

[rough basalt]

I've been writing down some variants for enemies

[remote wadi]

Fair enough, fair enough

[umbral girder]

The Staff of Silverymoon and Wand of Orcus made me think about magic items that work differently when given to their owners

[remote wadi]

In my defense, there are a good chunk of people in the party. Meaning I don't get much for versatility, so trying to focus on a sniper-esque build sounded good at the moment...

It still does somewhat, but it will need some investments. In particular, if I can get my hands on a firearm, my effectiveness in combat gets much better

[upper lintel]

The legend of vox machina dnd show is good i think it my new favorite animated show

[snow agate]

Crazy

[upper lintel]

I like it

[remote wadi]

Uh oh

Uuuuh oh...

[sleek cloud]

What

[remote wadi]

So

Remember that Mana Point system in my campaign I talked about?

[glass granite]

Mhm…….

[sleek cloud]

Yeah

[remote wadi]

I forgot 5 crucial words that made it so much more unbalanced

[upper lintel]

Is there a good YouTube channel to learn the lore of dnd . Im trying to understand the world

[remote wadi]

"Our Wizard prepared Silvery Barbs"

[timid current]

Lol

Silvery barbs is fine. It means no shield, no counterspell, uses a slot, and doesn't even guarantee a result

Unless as a dm your entire plan to challenge the players is to roll a crit

[remote wadi]

But what about 47 silvery barbs

[timid current]

I mean that is 47 spell slots not being used for dealing damage or shield or utility or anything besides maybe making a hit into a miss

[remote wadi]

Being able to easily swap between that or whatever else you want with no penalties?

Mind you, this isn't spell slots, this is a mana pool

[versed swan]

@zealous otter what's your favorite class

[timid current]

So you're using a house rule

[glass granite]

Yup, homebrew too

Not even the optional spell points system

[timid current]

Still though, you only get one reaction a turn

If you don't want to use it for countespell or shield that's a win as a dm

[buoyant oar]

The best part about silvery barbs is that it's inside of a setting specific book. And there is absolutely zero requirement to allow players to use such a spell

[timid current]

It's a fantastic way to use resources and action economy and I fully support my players taking it

[remote wadi]

I'll quickly bring you up to speed, but the campaign i am in has pretty rules overall, but a few homebrew rules that, while I as a ranger technically benefit from, other classes benefit so much more from

Oops, sorry for the ping...

[abstract beacon]

How would y’all feel about a minor change to the halberd to make it more realistic?

[glass granite]

Depends.
What change?

[timid current]

I would only suggest that whatever you're doing have the goal of more fun at the table. Realism isn't what d&d does

[remote wadi]

The 2 main ones are the aforementioned mana point system (MP points based on number and level of spell slots, so a level 11 wizard has 47 MP (4+6+9+12+10+6))

[glass granite]

If it’s just like, more damage types, I already do that in my games

[remote wadi]

And the second is the Perkin's Crit

[abstract beacon]

Well, since historically it was a multi use weapon due to its head, I would give it the option of doing all 3 kinds of damage: slashing with the axe, piercing with the spike and bludgeoning with the back of it yea

[glass granite]

Boop

[remote wadi]

So Dave, the 2 main issues are that with the MP system, they can simultaneously cast high level spells normally while also being able to cast low level spells for a fraction of the cost. Thus massively increasing versatility and decreasing how vital a long rest is

And our Wizard, Cleric, Bard, and Paladin to a smaller degree all benefit from this significantly

As for Perkins Crit, our Paladin is eating way too good already, but this would be the main course

At level 2, our paladin was dealing close to 50 damage in a single turn because of a javelin divine smite crit (oh, yeah. And despite being 2014 rules, Paladin can smite from a distance)

[glass granite]

2d6+4d8+…
Wow they rolled well

[remote wadi]

Nope

[glass granite]

Hm?

[remote wadi]

Remember, Perkin's Crits

[upper lintel]

Wrong chat i meant to post in new player

[glass granite]

Even then

[remote wadi]

1d6+4+6 piercing damage
And 2d8+16 radiant damage

So even getting the worst damage numbers possible, thats 29 damage

[meager fractal]

woah

[fading musk]

Bruh

[crimson gulch]

Oh man your still in that game? You have been complaining for days

[oak shoal]

Where the freak are you getting 2d8 DMG?

[glass granite]

Divine smite

[oak shoal]

Oh what nvm

[glass granite]

That looks wholefully wrong somehow

Where is the +6 and +16 coming from

Oh wait no

[remote wadi]

That is the rule of Perkin's Crits

[woven flint]

Me

[glass granite]

Nvm
Perkins

[woven flint]

I did it.

[sleek cloud]

Tokii gave them the extra damage, I was there I saw

[remote wadi]

Instead of doubling damage dice, you are adding the maximum possible damage from the regular dice

[glass granite]

The Lord of Goofy strikes again

[woven flint]

Yeah, I decided to bless them

[sleek cloud]

He does that sometimes

[woven flint]

You're welcome

[glass granite]

Wouldn’t it be 1d6+4+10 then?

[remote wadi]

Not so much complaining now. At least, until I remember the mana point system, and the fact we have a wizard with silvery barbs and soon to be counterspell. And probably fireball by now

[remote wadi]

Modifier apparently only gets applied once

[glass granite]

Ic

[woven flint]

Everytime you roll a nat 20
I'm there.
Everytime your character dies, I'm also there

[glass granite]

No wonder I never see you

[woven flint]

I giveth and I taketh

[remote wadi]

But just to be clear, this is not me complaining about the campaign that much. This is me realizing that these homebrew rules are only going to get more crucial and powerful as we progress

[woven flint]

You haven't earned my blessings, yet

[glass granite]

I guess that’s fair with the amount of dad jokes I’ve done

[tawdry sentinel]

I've never liked this, as a player or a DM. Too swingy.

[woven flint]

Change your ways, my son

[stoic obsidian]

I wonder how well a scientist would be received as a character

[glass granite]

Hmmm
Nahhhhh. It’s a-parent that this is part of my identity now

[woven flint]

Anyone can be a scientist if they're willing to test a theory

[remote wadi]

There was another thing I saw online that made crits give (i believe bardic) inspiration to the ones close enough to witness it

[woven flint]

Unfriended. Blocked. Reported, even. /j

[remote wadi]

But yeah. Perkin's crits are already pretty powerful, but this is also in the hands of a Paladin. The one who benefits from this and very lucky rolls the most

[stoic obsidian]

In character voice:Well of course, and frankly I find those that just accept answers without questioning or testing them because of being outcasted or being considered a loon to be rediculous

[woven flint]

Hold this.

Gently places a pipe bomb in your hands and walks away

[remote wadi]

And this is on top of a mana point system that allows you to be as versatile or focused with your spells as you want at the same time

Meaning that if our paladin really wanted to, they could, at level 11, cast Divine Smite at the 3rd level 6 times before running out

[glass granite]

Well, that was an explosive ending

[stoic obsidian]

This device seem to be something akin to a bomb, time to crack it open

[glass granite]

We’ll have to C4 next time if HolenLonfi survives

[stoic obsidian]

I will for I always have a contingency plan for these matters

Even my death

[glass granite]

Do you have one if your steak is overcooked?

[stoic obsidian]

Yes

[glass granite]

And undercooked?

[stoic obsidian]

Yes

[glass granite]

Damn they’re good

[ebon dome]

Uncook it

[ebon dome]

Un un cook it

[shell creek]

does anyone have any recommendations of discords or something i can join to find a group to play with?

[tawdry sentinel]

That is sort of what I've used in one of my games. Describe the crit and you get to describe your cool thing and throw a heroic inspiration to someone within 30ft. Works fine.

And then as a player at the lgs there's "double exclusively the attack dice, but reroll the d20 and if it's another 20 you one shot the enemy" which feels so bad as a rogue when every caster in the world is like cool I now get X D12 or this many extra d8, and a crit for little old rogue boy is an extra D4 with the promise of the ohk that never happens.

[glass granite]

#looking-for-community

[stoic obsidian]

All standard procedures for experimentation, plus it not the first time someone attempted to use my own curiosity to attempt to take my life

[shell creek]

this isnt paid right?

[glass granite]

Shouldn’t be

[shell creek]

okay thank you

[stoic obsidian]

Also I do find it strange that people don’t talk to gods more directly, tho most god don’t seem to like a friendly chat, maybe I ask them too many questions

[snow agate]

I think it’s because gods are too busy to answer random phone calls

[hushed mason]

In my setting, the Gods are distant and don't answer anyone. Ever.

[stoic obsidian]

Don’t they have an event planer or can’t they set up a meeting with proper scheduling

[snow agate]

That’s what the angel secretary is for, and the angel mailing room/help desk actually is the one answering your phone call

[stoic obsidian]

Well may I set up a meeting with a god then, for I got something important to discuss with them

[snow agate]

I mean maybe idk

[stoic obsidian]

Well I encounter some strange matter that I touch somehow created a dimensional door that leads to a location that create anything by mere thought if you stand in it, and I find it to be very important thing to discuss

[raw ocean]

I imagine gods as CEO's, they aren't going out of their way to speak to a random employee

Maybe if it's like a lesser god or being

[hushed mason]

In my setting, the Gods have been so distant that fiends and celestials have stepped in to take the place of distant deities.

[snow agate]

Or like world leaders. Except they’re even further away than world leaders, because they’re not even in this dimension

[raw ocean]

Essentially yeah, god's will NOT notice you unless you do some crazy shit

"Hey, you know one of your followers just nuked a country?"

[snow agate]

“Pull up the orb I need to see this”

[raw ocean]

"How did he convince 500 wizards to circle cast?"

"He's a bard dude, that's why I don't accept them as followers"

[snow agate]

“He’s a bard dude, that’s why I accept them as followers 😎 “

[remote wadi]

Nugget, what monstrosity have you released on my campaign??

[cold jay]

Which save is easier for monsters to fail: Dex or Wisdom?

[glass granite]

I did no such thing!

[minor cargo]

In general, monsters tend to have weaker wisdom saves. But that’s not a hard and fast rules.

[glass granite]

Simply helped a friend out

[cold jay]

ok, what about Dex and Con?

[glass granite]

Though I still stand by my point about you focusing too much on your build. The best fun you’ll find in dnd is in the roleplay.

[remote wadi]

Con saving throws are mostly for poison and things involving the body itself. Dexterity is jumping out of the way of fireballs

[remote wadi]

Of course

[minor cargo]

My gut says that dex and con saves tend to be the highest among monsters - again in general.

I don’t have any facts or data to back that up though.

[glass granite]

My gut says con

[stoic obsidian]

I am not an employee

I speak to this pacific god because the others wouldn’t listen to the serious matter currently at hand

If you don’t then I make you

By using the very thing I tried to warn you about

walks off through the dimension door of creation

[remote wadi]

I need help with this question

[raw ocean]

Yall ever went through a totally bogus death or TPK?

[raw ocean]

Fireball

[stoic obsidian]

Fortunately not me

[remote wadi]

Check #dnd-rules

[lyric idol]

Nah. Most TPKs come from our party being stupid and/or greedy.

[raw ocean]

I got one-shotted by some demi-god because I was measuring distance to shoot him just in case something happened and the DM said "You wanna shoot him?"

The demi-god picked up my 100 pound party member and threw him at me so hard, it did my full health bar

No saving role or anything

[lyric idol]

Thats...Extreme. Harsh even. No saves?

[raw ocean]

No death saves, all I got is "You want your character to live?" from the DM

[lyric idol]

Well that sounds like it belongs on a r/rpghorrorstories post.

[raw ocean]

Now that I think about it most of the time we just got instant death in the campaign, never saving rolls

My character died to the party member throw, our cleric died from getting literally erased by death himself, two party members died from an guaranteed hit ravenous void, and one character just ended up killing themselves and leaving the campaign

I should of left that campaign way earlier...

[formal peak]

Oh boy do I have a story to tell

[quasi dome]

Death by DM fiat is one of those “wrong way to run the game” things

[formal peak]

My very first game
As a level 1 character
My dm one-shot me with a rhemoraz

[raw ocean]

Ok wait, he threw a CR 11 creature at a level 1 party?

[formal peak]

Eeeeyep

First session

[raw ocean]

How many players?

[formal peak]

5

Mostly casters
A rogue
And i was a barbarian

[karmic junco]

Hi there!! I just got here lol

[formal peak]

Oh same!

[rough basalt]

Yeah I had a 1st session like that when I started dnd

[subtle tangle]

does anyone wanna start a session ive never played and wanna learn

[karmic junco]

Im writting the second session to my new campaign rn!! And im having a fun time making npcs lol (drawing them)

[formal peak]

My best advice: dont get too attached

[rough basalt]

Except it wasn't a CR11 monster, it was 11 Zombies against a level 1 party of 5 in a hallway

And 1 of said players quit the game

[formal peak]

I quit that game soon

[rough basalt]

"My character is a coward he screams and runs" then dropped call

[subtle tangle]

looking for ppl to play dnd with i havent played before but i get the gist.

[prisma arch]

As am I

[rough basalt]

And our Wizard used both his slots on Ray of sickness on a zombie

And he didn't have a damage cantrip

[glass granite]

Both of you should check out #find-a-game ,Jolteron, duckduckgoose

[karmic junco]

To the npcs? Oh yeah I know haha but more often then not im the one who kills them compared to the players haha

[formal peak]

Damn
It be like that sometimes

[rough basalt]

Funniest part was he died instantly the next session

[karmic junco]

Oh hey I like your Jester pfp! I need to draw her next (I made my Caleb pfp)

[rough basalt]

And rage quitted

[formal peak]

I think the last time I raged out of a campaign was because my dm yelled at me alot

Over connection issues

[rough basalt]

He started threatening a couple of Paladins so one paladin backhanded him

[karmic junco]

Omg thats so annoying? And rude??

[rough basalt]

Instakilled him

[karmic junco]

My biggest campaign issue is playing with 7 people that are all my family. They all are murder hobos 😭

[rough basalt]

My issue is only 1 game going on rn

And it hasn't been played in a couple weeks

[formal peak]

My longest running group currently is super fun
Our forever dm (by choice/need) is an english major

[rough basalt]

After the holidays ima be restarting my Monday game hopefully

[formal peak]

Nice!

[rough basalt]

And hopefully get some more games started

[formal peak]

Tomorrow im gonna shounen paladin all over the place

[rotund plinth]

I’m new, who can show me the ropes

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have.
Once you’re ready and got the fundamentals down, you can check out #find-a-game for information on how to find a group online. To make a post, type the appropriate command in any chat channel.

[formal peak]

Jokes aside critical role and Jocat have made how to videos

[rotund plinth]

Thank you

[lavish flame]

Every day I wish we got some of the more substantial changes that the playtest for 2024 had. I wish we had Class Groups and Arcane/Divine/Primal spell lists and standardized Subclass progression across the classes.

[fossil hollow]

Would have improved rogue's progressiojn a lot

[stoic obsidian]

I thought of something evil

Oiled Up Cantrops

[woven flint]

Roguein' it

[stoic obsidian]

I put the caltrops in a oil jar

[sleek cloud]

I put caltrops in my caltrops so I can caltrop while I caltrop

[formal peak]

I stepped on a piece of d4 shaped ice today

[stoic obsidian]

I also cast enlarge on the caltrops

[scenic zinc]

All that got scrapped when they chose to make it just an update instead so they could release it for the 50th anniversary.

[formal peak]

1d4 piercing+1d4 cold damage

[scenic zinc]

I don't think they got rid of that for legitimate playtest result reasons

[formal peak]

Flammable caltrops

[fast latch]

Would Vampiric Touch be balanced if it did a d12 instead of a d6 for damage?

If not, how could it be buffed?

[stoic obsidian]

That made of wood

[fickle heart]

Tell me about it.

[remote wadi]

Okay, do you all want the good news or bad news?

[stoic obsidian]

Both at the same time

[fast latch]

Bad first

I like getting the bad over with

[remote wadi]

Bad news, the dream of Ranger/Fighter is dead
Good news, Ranger/Rogue is going to be so much better

[stoic obsidian]

Okay?

[fast latch]

Awww darn it

I like the idea of Fighter-Ranger

[stoic obsidian]

What you making fighter ranger for?

Because honestly ranger is fine by itself plus it already get weapon mastery and fighting style

[glass granite]

2014

[stoic obsidian]

Oh okay

[remote wadi]

I was trying to make Fighter Ranger as my best attempt (at the moment) of a sniper build. Problem is, combat and exploration wise, Perkin's Crits made me basically a poorly stocked vending machine of food, water, and a few Cure Wounds... vs a Paladin sitting on top of a surplus of nuclear warheads

For context, our Paladin got close to 3 shotting the boss in the Death House for Curse of Strahd: back to back divine smite crits with a ranged javelin (homebrew rule allows for ranged smites despite being 2014)

[fast latch]

Why not just use Warlock with the 120 feet Eldritch Blast Eldritch Invocation?

[stoic obsidian]

So Perkins crit max damage dice then roll for normal damage

[glass granite]

Mhm

[stoic obsidian]

Maybe it not the Perkins crit that causing you to feel inadequate

[remote wadi]

Yeah. So Paladin crit was 1d6+10 piercing damage and 2d8+16 radiant damage

[stiff rock]

If you wanted to play a sniper character, why not take some levels in rogue for sneak attack bonuses?

[remote wadi]

We already have 3 spellcasters in our team. I wanted to be ranger because I wanted to try out a sniper build

[remote wadi]

Enter my soon to be Ranger/Rogue plans...

[fast latch]

Got it

[stiff rock]

Ranger/rogue can be pretty good, i'm not sure how it is in 5e (as ive never played ranger) but I hear gloom stalker pairs well with rogue

[stoic obsidian]

Ah, didn’t you have a weapon that has extra damage, also what about your hunters mark?

[remote wadi]

Specifically, I'm going with Assassin Rogue

[stiff rock]

Assassin is quite fun

[remote wadi]

Remember. This is also Perkin's Crit

[glass granite]

Synergises very well with gloomstalker

[stoic obsidian]

You could just take two levels of fighter

The rest ranger

[remote wadi]

Nope

Fighter will not work out

[stiff rock]

I think sneak attack would be overall more beneficial than action surge for a sniper character

[stoic obsidian]

Okay

[subtle tangle]

looking for a dm

[glass granite]

#looking-for-dm

To learn how to post there, check out #find-a-game

[subtle tangle]

already posted amd cant post

[stiff rock]

If people aren't responding then you probably should just wait

[remote wadi]

For level 11 (5 Ranger Gloomstalker, 6 Assassin Rogue) with a hunting rifle, Favored Foe, and Hunter's Mark, my average first turn damage will be... just about 300 piercing damage

[stiff rock]

I think you've sorted your damage issue then lol

[fast latch]

So a Perkin's Crit with a 1d10 Longsword would deal 10+1d10+Str?

[remote wadi]

Oh, yeah. And all attacks, assuming I also get surprise in (very likely with a +13 Stealth and +23 with PWT) will be made with advantage and a +11 hit modifer. I will also have +15 to my initiative

[stiff rock]

Terrorising your DM at that point

[remote wadi]

This'll be revenge, then

[fast latch]

Holy crap

[stiff rock]

One of my players is a ridiculously beefy goliath fighter and I've never managed to down him in combat

[glass granite]

I think I gave you too many ideas

[remote wadi]

Our first boss fight was terrible for me

The 4 main and possibly only attacks landed were 2 back to back divine smite crits, crit on Guiding Bolt, and a crit fail save for Bard's Dissonant Whispers

My 3 turns? 12 attack roll after sharpshooter misses. Turn 2, 12 is a miss. Turn 3, landed a hit without Sharpshooter only to do 7 piercing damage

[glass granite]

Imma be honest I don’t think the DM deserves this

[remote wadi]

There is one other problem

I made a figurative deal with the devil

Just to get average stats compared to the party (84 base total vs 2 88s, a 90, a 92, and 94)

So this is not terrorizing. This is preparation

[fast latch]

I've literally never seen over a 90

[remote wadi]

We rolled dice for the stat totals

[red steppe]

What were you guys fighting

[stoic obsidian]

The way to challenge them is not to hold back, because player are tactical goblins this is the truth

[remote wadi]

It was some esque creature in the Death House for Curse of Strahd

[stiff rock]

Yeah I gave up on being nice in my newest campaign and TPK'd the 2nd combat (accidentally). Thankfully they were only taken prisoner

[stoic obsidian]

Good

Be fair but challenging

And don’t beef up monsters hp

Used ambushes, traps, all things that can mess up players plans

[remote wadi]

Yes. And for my attack at level 11, it'll be a hunting rifle sneak attack crit with Hunter's Mark and Favored Foe

And Piercer

3d10+4d6+1d4+63 piercing damage

[glass granite]

Your damage drops to the floor after the first turn tho btw

Not bad, but nowhere NEAR the first turn

[remote wadi]

Sharpshooter, Bonus Action Steady Aim

[glass granite]

You get one less attack and no guaranteed crits

That’s a major damage loss

[remote wadi]

Remember, that isn't my first turn damage

That is my critical hit damage. First turn is just 3 guaranteed crits if i land attacks on surprised opponents

[stoic obsidian]

Guarenteed?

[glass granite]

Assassinate

If you hit a creature that hadn’t had a turn, you crit

[stoic obsidian]

Ah

[glass granite]

You also have advantage

[remote wadi]

Assassin subclass. I get guaranteed crits on surprised opponents, and I am able to make those attacks with advantage if they haven't made their turn on that round yet

Which, good luck outspeeding someone with +15 initiative

[glass granite]

This one hasn’t considered the fact that Surprised kills any chance of outspeeding them

[remote wadi]

Me?

[stoic obsidian]

Only if you surprise them

[short fractal]

How’d you get +15 initiative?

[remote wadi]

At level 11? 3 +5 bonuses, from Dex, Wisdom, and Alert feat

[sleek cloud]

Wisdom shouldn’t boost initiative

[remote wadi]

Gloomstalker

[sleek cloud]

Oh

[remote wadi]

Dread Ambush adds Wisdom modifer to Initiative

[ebon dome]

My dnd character probably likes chocolate ice cream with cookie dough

[stiff rock]

I'm guessing you also have the alert feat

[snow agate]

he said that

[remote wadi]

I will by level 9

[stiff rock]

Oh right I didnt see

I am blind as hell

[remote wadi]

Also, I presume you will need good stealth checks to surprise the enemy

[ebon dome]

Finals means no dnd for me this week

[stiff rock]

Yeah i'm pretty sure surprise is a stealth check vs passive perception

[remote wadi]

Passive Perception being the DC?

[stiff rock]

Yep

[remote wadi]

Well, have I got news for you

[stiff rock]

Goblin passive perception is 9, so you need a 9+ to surprise them

[remote wadi]

At level 11, I will have +13 in Perception and a +13 in stealth (that I can also make +23 if I use PWT)

So surprising my enemies will be often while the reverse is unlikely

[stiff rock]

Your dm is going to absolutely adore you

[remote wadi]

Oh. More nails in the coffin

No disadvantage from either being in melee range or going past normal range PLUS ignoring half and three quarters cover

Yeah. I'm going to be living the dream as an addict of high damage crits

[sleek cloud]

2014 build?

[remote wadi]

Yep

Who would have thought that the best advice for not being able to beat figurative one trick ponies is to join them?

[formal peak]

High double prof perception + alert is so funny

And the only reason ive played ranger

[remote wadi]

Yeah, looking back at Gloomstalker

And the Perkin's Crit

I no longer doubt Gloomstalker

[formal peak]

Drakewarden is also a definite reason to play it

[remote wadi]

For sure

[fast latch]

How broken would Illusionist Wizard be if Illusionary Reality could make things that hurt people?

[formal peak]

Yes

[remote wadi]

But Perkin's Crits for this campaign means that every first turn, so long as I have first in initiative and surprised enemies

[meager fractal]

Drakewarden is a cool subclass

[remote wadi]

I effectively have 3 piercing damage attacks that have the relative strength of PWK

[formal peak]

Even if you can circumvent it by performing grand theft dragonnel

[humble cairn]

Is this the well known Gloomstalker Assassin nova damage build for 2014?

[meager fractal]

First encounter of this campaign and the DM is having us fight Quicklings and Shadows. Lol we're in danger.

[humble cairn]

Entangle them if you have a Druid or Ranger. Pretty sure Quicklings are nimble, but not strong. Then a lot of their stuff stops working if they have 0 speed.

[red steppe]

Web

[humble cairn]

They're much more likely to succeed on the save against Web.

[meager fractal]

Oh I already got a spike growth ready to go lol, just waiting for our break to end

[humble cairn]

I kind of think Entangle might be better, but let us know how that works out for you.

[remote wadi]

With Perkin's Crits, it seems

But what's nova?

[humble cairn]

I dislike calling it that because I'm pretty sure Chris Perkins didn't invent those.

They were called "Chunky Crits." And "nova damage" generally refers to super high burst damage that you can't repeat very frequently.

[remote wadi]

Then call it the "3/4 PWK bullets every first round"

[fast latch]

Term for a BIG MASSIVE SUPER MASSIVE DAMAGE

[humble cairn]

Chunky Crits is what I'll call them.

[remote wadi]

Fair enough. But do keep in mind: critical hits are very much still possible