dnd-discussion

[woven flint]

Yarp, we're going into Dungeon of the Mad Mage afterwards
He might die

[fossil hollow]

next session is gonna be a blast

[clear lark]

Yes you can.

[fossil hollow]

proof?

[snow agate]

How good is find steed as a spell? Relatively speaking

[fossil hollow]

squishy

[humble cairn]

I found it useful on my Paladin, wait are we talking the 2024 version or no?

[snow agate]

Ya

[humble cairn]

Mounted combat is useful, especially once you can get a flying mount. It's also nice that you can cast it once and then swap out that spell the next day while still keeping the mount.

[humble cairn]

Well you certainly can't do what they were asking, anyway.

[violet basin]

Am I remembering a hallcuination or did an item exist that let you walk loudly (like boots stomping, or heels clicking)? in 5e? - or maybe it was 3/3.5?

[valid geyser]

Not that I remember

[raw ocean]

Mid, the true choice is finding a horse and using awaken on it

then teaching it magic

[ember pewter]

Yo

[raw ocean]

Yeah?

[ember pewter]

Where do I find dungeon masters😅

[knotty pasture]

You can't cast more than one spell per action, but you can cast more than one spell per turn

Are you thinking of the Quickened Spell metamagic

[raw ocean]

#looking-for-players

Speaking of that I should look for a new DM

adios

[violet basin]

the places to go with this...

[fossil hollow]

woo another fun session of Waterdeep Dragon Heist Menaces completed

[minor lake]

bro it's wild to me how fast some people can pick up this game. This guy who knows the game like the back of his hand just told me he's only been playing for about 2 years

[fossil hollow]

just two?

[raw ocean]

I still want the waterdeep lord's ensemble outside of water deep

[minor lake]

yeah and he like knows his shit back to front it's wild

[fossil hollow]

I feel like 2 years is decent time to know the game, especially if you played a lot. A year is a long time

[minor lake]

he's a forever DM bc he knows the rules the best

[raw ocean]

function as a single magic item when worn together, but only within the city of Waterdeep and its sewers...

I still have to find a way to get around this

[minor lake]

true
i don't think i figured it out for real until like a few years ago
when names and logistics started to click

[fossil hollow]

I remember being pretty familiar with the PHB first two weeks i played. Not memorized, just remembered my paladin and cleric's stuff

[bronze wave]

thats a long time

[glass granite]

It took me around a month, if I recall

[knotty pasture]

It gets easier with video games like bg3

[bronze wave]

I learned all of dnd in a day, it was a vision

its how I knew to play paladins

[glass granite]

I’ve been playing for two years (nearly) actually. Just realised it’s soon to be my two year “knowing dnd” anniversary

[sleek cloud]

“It came to me in a dream” vibes

[knotty pasture]

You just immerse yourself into it

[bronze wave]

thats exactly it

I foresaw it all. I alr can see 6e in 2037

[sleek cloud]

“I foresaw a grand 20 sided die and wept, for it was glorious”

[bronze wave]

I saw the first ever nat20 roll

it was used to rob a commoner of 3 silver

[violet basin]

well, homebrewed my 'make my character always sound like her heels are clacking on a marble floor' magical anklet....
why, because i rp like a maniac....

[raw ocean]

The day I get a nat 100 is the day I reach heaven

[sleek cloud]

I mean, there are rolls for that

[violet basin]

I am currently banking 4 DM inspirations in one of the campaigns i am in.

saving them for a rainy day...

[rich axle]

Rolls a nat100 and literally ascends to heaven leaving his friends behind

[raw ocean]

You may get just but a rusty dagger from the 100 item loot table, but the 100 is the reward all along

[rich axle]

Wym dm inspiration?

[rich axle]

It’s still worth partying like you just turned 21

[raw ocean]

I wonder if there's a way to bring a location with you in D&D

[rich axle]

Bag of holding?

[raw ocean]

I wonder if I can minimize a literal city

[umbral girder]

Only a 4ft cube

[violet basin]

some DM's give out "Inspiration" that can let the player chose to have Advantage on a Roll, or Reroll a Roll entirely - possibly multiple times if the DM lets their players "bank" inspiration. Basically the way BG3 does it.

[rich axle]

Ohhhh ok

[rich axle]

You gotta try sometimes

[umbral girder]

That’s why it’s called Heroic Inspiration in 2024 fun fact!

The 2014 just called it inspiration

[violet basin]

and I've saved up 4 of them for a rainy day, knowing my DM is a evil god..

[glass granite]

I didn’t know it was ever called anything but heroic inspiration. TIL

[violet basin]

some DMs just dont use it
some do.

[raw ocean]

I want to use the lord's ensemble magic item but it only works inside of water deep, I have to figure out a way to bring waterdeep with me

[glass granite]

I give whoever is hosting a heroic inspiration

[umbral girder]

I’m glad 2024 made it way, way more common to get Heroic Inspiration

[violet basin]

ask your DM if it can work outside of waterdeep.

[umbral girder]

Like every human or someone with the Musician origin feat

[rich axle]

What if it’s online?

[umbral girder]

Or 2024 Champion fighter getting inspiration every single turn

[violet basin]

i bet that doesnt really work with discord hosted games lol

[raw ocean]

Tbh you are right, im trying to find a work around and I cant quite find one

[glass granite]

Yeah nope

[glass granite]

I mostly DM campaigns in person

I pretty much only do online one shots, and I don’t give inspiration in those

[violet basin]

i feel like i would rp better in person, sometimes - but at the same time, I HATE playing in person...

but some things are hard to rp without in person body language and what not

[glass granite]

I love playing in person. Agree to disgagree.

[violet basin]

i mostly hate it for comfort (of furniture/temp) reasons

[rich axle]

Thats fair it’s way better in my opinion but I live in a small town and gotta do what I gotta do

[glass granite]

I’m lucky

[raw ocean]

I can't scroll reels while my party members take 5 minutes per turn

[glass granite]

That’s fair and reasonable

[violet basin]

It's currently 62 in my office, and I dont think most other people like that sort of temp to exist in....

[raw ocean]

That's why I will always be online

[violet basin]

5 minutes per a turn, is....what i WISH would happen sometimes

[rich axle]

Can I cast wish to make that happen?

[raw ocean]

Sometimes you just gotta accept it when your party fighter has 20 actions and your DM has a question for every action

[knotty pasture]

Tbh yeah that's the good thing about online dnd, if anyone keeps hogging all the screentime you can just browse your phone

[violet basin]

Monkey Paw says no

[glass granite]

Oh you like it cold
Hm, I’d try it

(Of course, that’s assuming you don’t mean 62 celsius)

[rich axle]

Aw man

[knotty pasture]

I'll just occasionally take notes of what's happening and go back to idling on my phone

[raw ocean]

Guys, my artificer did some crazy stuff and left behind 2 very rare items of my choice (level 17 so the DM is not spoiling us), what items should I go with?

I was thinking two arcane cannons

[violet basin]

wait 45 minutes to an hour to get back to my turn, do my 3-4 attacks in under a minute, go back to .... whatever else i was doing...

[knotty pasture]

It gets even better when you're playing a martial class

[rich axle]

You would be halfway through a stranger things episode by then

[glass granite]

How is it taking 45 minutes?! In my experience it’s like 2-5

[knotty pasture]

You know no one is gonna ask you to front unless there's an athletics check

[raw ocean]

Really depends on levels, what's the highest PC level you go to?

[knotty pasture]

So you idle during exploration and pay attention to the fighting

[violet basin]

sometimes the other players just dont know what they are doing....
and sometimes there's like a squad or two of enemies....

or sometimes.... there's both

[glass granite]

Y’know what very fair point. I DM mostly for tier 1

[knotty pasture]

My guess on a 45 min turn is when you decided to go zoo strats on Druid

[violet basin]

tier 1? mostly for tier 1? as in ...1-4?

[raw ocean]

Im in a tier 4 campaign, I have once seen a combat go on for 3 hours

[knotty pasture]

So you have to command every individual summon to attack

[glass granite]

1-5, ye

[raw ocean]

Tier 4 is like level 17-20

[glass granite]

I thought it was 16-20

[violet basin]

I've seen combat go for 4 hours, and 2 more sessions of 3-4 hours each...

[raw ocean]

I think it's 17, prolly gotta search it up

[glass granite]

I might be wrong

[raw ocean]

Oh it only went on for 3 hours because I said "Yeah, nah im just gonna banish the dude"

[knotty pasture]

17-20 seems right

[violet basin]

which is wierd, because i used to like my MTG Commander games going several hours each.
BUT DND combat? uuugghhr

[raw ocean]

I love it when the DM throws a different plane boss at us!

I once was in a combat, with 267 turns.

[violet basin]

The "im sick of this fight" and bag of holding/portable hole myself or the enemy, or both of us!

[raw ocean]

Im not joking.

[knotty pasture]

1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20

Huh, does that make bg3 a T2 or T3 campaign?

[raw ocean]

Tier 3 is 11-16

Tier 2 is 5-10, and yada yada

[knotty pasture]

Uneven numbers damn

[raw ocean]

Tier 1 (levels 1-4) for "Local Heroes," Tier 2 (levels 5-10) for "Heroes of the Realm," Tier 3 (levels 11-16) for "Masters of the Realm," and Tier 4 (levels 17-20) for "Masters of the World"

I have figured out how to twist someone's organs at level 17

[violet basin]

tier 1, unplayable nothing interesting really happens and fireball is the highlight of the day....
tier 2, some fun time can be had, though builds can't really get going...
tier 3, ya, good stuff. spells, feats, items, interesting and diverse monsters.
tier 4, your character glows in the dark due to magical item radiation, your DM hopefully knows how to scale encounters to your obsurdities, and you've got seven hirelings that are all nearly as pumped and pimped as you are....

[knotty pasture]

Maybe bg3 should have capped at level 10 Such an awkward spot to be in

Or level 16, level 16 is good too

[raw ocean]

Tier 4 campaign is oh so amazing

Only bad part is that in one combat, half your party can die

[violet basin]

i keep hoping for a bg3 expansion were i get to save karlach in hell, and it goes another couple of levels....

[umbral girder]

Eh

[violet basin]

so can half a city 😄

[raw ocean]

My party quite literally moved an entire city using rope trick lol

[knotty pasture]

There's a act 2.5 expansion mod coming out real soon hopefully if it isn't out already

[violet basin]

explain

[raw ocean]

Circle casting and DM discretion, we had to move it so it diden't get hit by a level 12 spell

You ever watch one piece?

[violet basin]

how does that move a city?

[violet basin]

no, i do not

[raw ocean]

I literally have no idea, our party wizard and warlock did it

[red steppe]

Full casters in Tier 4 can threaten archdevils and gods

[red steppe]

Tier 1 is 1-4
Tier 2 is 5-10

[violet basin]

sounds like a good time then

[raw ocean]

But they summed it up to, rope trick make whole stuff can fall into, we gather power to make hole big, we drop city through hole and bring it back out somewhere else

[red steppe]

Yes

[violet basin]

That....that isn't how rope trick operates at all, not even...remotely...

[raw ocean]

Oh I know, I just kept silent because I diden't want to hear the players and the DM bargain for 12 minutes

[violet basin]

my brain hurt

DM should have shut that one down, that's just wholy beyond the scope

[naive talon]

Excuse me

[glass granite]

Hi

[naive talon]

Where do I find a dm at??

[raw ocean]

Either way we moved to a different reality to avoid stuff so it never happened

[red steppe]

Nah, its just the ultimate hiding spot cuz you cant see it without true sight and enemies cant target you cuz its on a different plane of existence

[violet basin]

#find-a-game

[raw ocean]

Circle casting just dropped and it was like 3AM, the DM was not in the mood to use brain cells

[glass granite]

You should check out #find-a-game for more info, but making posts on #looking-for-dm and responding to #looking-for-players posts is a good start

[violet basin]

poor dm

[next perch]

wassap!

[glass granite]

Wazzup!

[next perch]

Wazzzzaaaapppp

[raw ocean]

We used the fate card to erase the existence of a huge event in the world so it never happened so we are all good!

[naive talon]

Thank you

[glass granite]

Not much, prepping for a session on Monday

[next perch]

oh sick! i was hopping to dm today butt no one showed up, so i think i might have a dead game sadly

[glass granite]

That’s a shame

[violet basin]

on that note (cards)

STUPID TACTIC OF THE DAY BY AETHER_TECH.

DRAW THE DECK OF WONDER. EVERY CARD IN IT. THEN DO IT IT AGAIN. AND MAYBE A THIRD TIME.

You're welcome.

My dm Introduced a rule about that very quickly afterwards.

[next perch]

mhm, it was only like three sessions in but stilll

[raw ocean]

I pulled 12 times from the deck

I am a D1 gambler

[old sluice]

Please avoid all caps.

[raw ocean]

Although I do wonder if you can cast rope trick inside of rope trick

[violet basin]

if you recheck my post, you'll see that only half of it is all caps.

[violet basin]

I do believe, that yes, you can in fact cast rope trick inside a rope trick. just use a shorter rope the second time.

[old sluice]

One capitalized word here and there for emphasis is fine (though italics are better), but entire sentences capitalized are not only visually unpleasant but can be an accessibility issue

[violet basin]

Rope Trick nesting doll trick...usefulness? questionable.

[raw ocean]

accessibility issue?

[violet basin]

doubt.

[old sluice]

Blind people use screen readers and other accessibility tools. Entire capitalized sentences can have the screen reader behave less than ideally

[next perch]

i feel like it aint that deep...

[violet basin]

Ah, i see, my capitlization is more of an egrigious afair than the often constant stream of poorly formated, misspelled, adhoc punctiated posts that flood everything on the internet?

[glass granite]

It’s also a server rule, fairly sure

[next perch]

oh well in that case, thats fairr

[glass granite]

At the very least, moderators have come to ask people to refrain from the cap locks too much

[woven flint]

Hello, friends 😎

[glass granite]

Hallo, o lord of Goofy

[woven flint]

Our waterdeep party was almost murdered by Griffons, but we locked in

[raw ocean]

That feels like an extremely niche reason, especially since a blind person would already have a hard time with a game that’s literally about constantly reading rules. But I can understand it if there’s an official server rule.

[violet basin]

maybe you should check....

"7 • Please send all messages in English.,
Why? While we love our fans from around the globe, using a single language here is necessary to ensure a safe space. Since Wizards of the Coast is based in the United States, the language for this server is English.

Dungeons & Dragons

D&D
— 7/24/2023 2:39 PMMonday, July 24, 2023 2:39 PM
Possible violations include:
Sending messages, images, or links in another language, whether real or fictional.,
Having a server nickname in another language.
Usernames and display names in another language do not violate this policy, provided the user has a server nickname in English.,
,
Purposefully obscuring the clarity of an English message through the behaviors listed below.,
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[2:40 PM]Monday, July 24, 2023 2:40 PM
7.1 • Content Clarity,
Why? Even when English is used, certain behaviors can still make things harder to read or interfere with the use of screen readers.

The following behaviors are prohibited:
Using special fonts.,
Sending messages that are blank, unreadable, or gibberish.,
Disrupting the chat through the misuse of message formatting.
For example, using headers to make a message unnecessarily larger.,
,
Breaking a sentence into numerous messages, to the point where no single message has a full and self-contained contribution to the discussion."

[glass granite]

Anyone go down?

[woven flint]

And we're level 3 now 🧐

[old sluice]

So this is called "whataboutism". It's a rhetorical device that deflects away from criticism by pointing out a completely unrelated issue and, implicitly or not, accusing the original accuser of neglecting those issues.

[woven flint]

Sorcerer did, but they survived, all of us except the Monk were bloodied

[glass granite]

Yay

[violet basin]

was there a bard?

[woven flint]

The barbarian also just.. wasn't here this session, hoping for them next time lol

[woven flint]

Nope
Monk
Cleric
Sorcerer
Rogue
Our Barbarian was absent

[glass granite]

Solid setup

[marble lion]

Griffun

[umbral girder]

Yeah that’s a very good party comp

[violet basin]

darn, bards going down in combat is my favorite

[woven flint]

We leveled up so now we're
Kensei Monk
Knowledge Cleric
Spellfire Sorcerer
Thief Rogue
And
World Tree Barbarian

[glass granite]

…why?

[violet basin]

woooooooosh.

[glass granite]

Clearly, that went way over my head

[violet basin]

||going down.... bards.... dragons....||

[marble lion]

Because media usually portrays them as whiny dramaqueens and selfimportant wannabes
Seeing them go down is good

[violet basin]

that too....

[marble lion]

I will ignore that this isnt the intended meaning

[umbral girder]

Not really helpful

[woven flint]

My Bards are both self-important, but they typically take going down gracefully

[fossil hollow]

cant wait to play with caspian

[marble lion]

Ive only seen one annoying bard player personally

And bard was not their first choice at all

[woven flint]

Caspian Goldengale, the baddest [REDACTED] in all of Ragnarok

[glass granite]

I haven’t seen an annoying bard actually at my table

[marble lion]

1% of their playtime is on the bard

[violet basin]

I have found the majority of bard players that I have had to be on a team with, to be ill equipped to handle the consequences of actions in combat. There's just something about the class, and the players that play it constantly.

[marble lion]

Mostly its cleric and paladin

[marble lion]

I agree there

[woven flint]

Most of my characters are a Little annoying, but most are just well-meaning chatty folk that love a good conversation

[marble lion]

But not being good at combat doesnt mean you deserve a kicking

[woven flint]

My Tortle Knowledge Cleric is a talkative old man, but he's pretty nice

[marble lion]

It just means youll get one anyway

[violet basin]

no, but playing a bard as a seduce everything and get out of jail free character, is.

[raw ocean]

Okay, so not trying to argue, but I looked through the rules and the only thing I could find even remotely related to caps lock was the part about headers and special fonts. So technically caps lock is allowed — it probably just got mixed up somewhere down the line.

[marble lion]

No it breaks texttospeech

[woven flint]

Its a rare opportunity to have me play a bard in literally any game, lmao

[marble lion]

Something the mods want intact in case someone who isnt reading can understand you too

[woven flint]

I like my casters a bit more kick-ass

[raw ocean]

Let me test this rq

[woven flint]

Thats why Artanza has magic initiate and reliable attack cantrips as a Cleric

[hot marlin]

Yeah caps locks are not explicitly banned I think. But it's true that normal etiquette would have people try to avoid it

[raw ocean]

/tts

[hot marlin]

More of an etiquette breach than a rules breach

[raw ocean]

I think I forgot how to use tts

[marble lion]

Just do it in another server

[violet basin]

My constant issue is that, the players that play high -charisma characters like bards, sorcs, or warlocks, and do it with the intention to seduce dragons/monsters/the queen, is that they ALMOST ALWAYS suck at the actual persuasive parts of rp. Not counting the fact that the king isn't going to take kindly to a random adventuere trying to seduce his main squeeze....

I've said it many times, but Charisma skills are not a free pass in the Sand Box to do stupid things.

[raw ocean]

Tested it in another server, caps lock does not break TTS at all

[marble lion]

Maybe its device specific

[raw ocean]

Ill try on my phone

[split rover]

good morrow, gentles

[woven flint]

Salutations

[marble lion]

Otherwise it must be from an older version and they fixed it since

[violet basin]

Saltulations

[humble cairn]

The mods ask that we do not use all caps because it might be a detriment to other people. Why not just be nice?

[knotty pasture]

Chk

[marble lion]

No idea but anyway using capslock a lot is really annoying so i guess its best not to anyway

[violet basin]

where was that?

[split rover]

the last thing i want to do is derail a conversation in progress, so will someone please do me the favor of letting me know when a good point might be to jump in with an unrelated question? happy to wait 🙂

[woven flint]

Nah, lass, you're chill

[marble lion]

Johns point is that it may not be a detriment to tts. Not that he doesnt care about being nice

[raw ocean]

Ok so caps locks is not against the rules but it just upsets people for some reason is the conclusion

[knotty pasture]

Go ahead and ask, seems like its just minor discussion atm

[marble lion]

The reason quoted by mods i saw was tts reason

[humble cairn]

They do it in chat every once in awhile.

[fossil hollow]

#moderator-support

[fossil hollow]

if you got questions about how the mods rule capslock, ask there

[raw ocean]

My question is already answered, but thanks for sending a link

[woven flint]

Changing Artanza's magic initiate to shield because I realized the only way he'll get increased ac is through magical shields, so, I figure I'd start with the spell lmao

[violet basin]

searched, "caps lock"
#dnd-newcomers message

"in very small doses"

oh, looks like I did exactly , nothing, wrong...

MOVING ON.

[fossil hollow]

no more familiar? 😔

[split rover]

Well, a) as far as I understand, all caps is the equivalent of shouting, which i prefer people not to do to me in real life so it stands to reason people prefer it not happen on the internet.

b) i'm trying to run a MODERN game... but I can't for the life of me find any gun assets that i don't have to pay for. Don't get me wrong, if this one-shot turns into a campaign i will happily pay for assets! but for a one-shot that might not take off, you can understand why i'd be reluctant to spend IRL money.

If anyone wants to talk about the premise/parameters of my one-shot, I would be happy (read: giddy) to share.

[woven flint]

Me when I realize the downside and folly of playing a tortle is that my AC is locked at 19 with a normal shield until the dm decides to give me a magical shield

[violet basin]

All caps is not the equivlent of shouting.

When you say "assets" do you mean Items? Have you delved into Homebrew stuff?

[marble lion]

You cant just say that but then give a perfect example of a non-upsetting use of capslock right after

[woven flint]

Nope, not until later, maybe, but probably just no more in general

[hot marlin]

I'm not sure the original message that prompted the conversation counts as a "very small dose" of caps. But it's true that "very small" is a bit too ambiguous

[woven flint]

Sorry, Mr. Familiar Killer, no more familiars for you to kill

[violet basin]

What if I use an exclamation mark, is that shouting?!

[fossil hollow]

better safe than sorry

[fossil hollow]

dammit, i got mouths to feed.

[split rover]

I'm fine for like, stat blocks etc, but what i'm looking for is like, tokens. visual representations of guns that i can use in a VTT. because treasure, found weapons, etc.

[violet basin]

Or should I just whisper?

[marble lion]

You should clean your room

[violet basin]

Ok, so easy solution, google gun pics, and put them into a tokenizer (or just ms paint)

[split rover]

i did not know that was an option!

[raw ocean]

Basically someone was telling aether to cool it on the caps locks, then I looked around the rules because I was thinking that there's no way caps lock breaks TTS, I looked and technically it's not a rule but more of an soclial thing that was founded at some point

[fossil hollow]

yeah, theres a lot of token generators/makers online

[split rover]

i'm not a hugely experienced DM.

[fossil hollow]

'gain. better safe than sorry. most tts will just spell out any caps

instead of saying the word

[violet basin]

You can open up an image in ms paint, select the circular cut out tool (or whatever the techies call it,) and just cut out a circle. and spruce it up or such. Or use token generators online. It's quite easy either way.

[hot marlin]

It's true. Many TTS default to treating all caps as acronyms.

[raw ocean]

I tested it with multiple sentences in another server, only way it breaks if you spam like one letter [Im fine with caps locks not being used, I was just curious]

[fossil hollow]

so if you caps lock on a message that might be a bit long...

[violet basin]

I would hate to be a person using TTS when quite a large number of people don't properly format their posts to conform to proper grammar and spelling.

[fossil hollow]

thats like, one

[raw ocean]

Like one what?

[fossil hollow]

one tts

[violet basin]

OOOOOOH for example, for a tts.

It wont be 'oooooooh' it will be oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh eich

[fossil hollow]

other programs exist

[raw ocean]

See now that would break the TTS with the o spam

But if it's just, OH.

[violet basin]

i shouldbeenapoet

[raw ocean]

But back to D&D

[fossil hollow]

you know how long ive been waiting for this

[woven flint]

Dungone and Dragon

[raw ocean]

Yall know if there's anyways to get the lord's ensemble to work outside of waterdeep?

[woven flint]

Okay, Gambit

[violet basin]

brotheristhatyou?gettheflamertheheavyflamer.

[hot marlin]

Perhaps we should require an official clarification by the mod team and move on.

[violet basin]

aw, he changed it...

[fossil hollow]

another russianbadger enjoyer in the wild?

[woven flint]

I've been here, ya know

[raw ocean]

I just tts'd that in another serve and it sounds so broken

[fossil hollow]

its just three magic items/spells in one

[split rover]

if anyone feels like helping me feel out the parameters of the one-shot i'm trying to build, i'll be in #dm-discussion 🙂 don't want to derail you guys here. You seem like really good conversationalists!! 😄

[violet basin]

There are also fake letters that can be used in place to make TTS go insane...
I don't have a numbpad , and I'm to lazy to copy and paste them.

[raw ocean]

But it only takes up one slot

or attunement yk

[fossil hollow]

ring of nondetection iirc is not attunement

wait, im thinnking of mind shielding

[raw ocean]

The amulet of nondetection is

[fossil hollow]

yeah, thats not attunement

[woven flint]

Oooooh, you want to give Artanza a ring of nondetection
OOOOOOO
You want to give Artanza a ring of mind shielding
OOO-

[violet basin]

looks at ring of mindshielding

https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/4725-ring-of-mind-shielding?srsltid=AfmBOoouIuwgYHKjcY4nI29gbHcRWnCPUa6kEBL4hWp2_AJg5yCuNJlE

[viscid citrus]

Hey, new to the server and new to dnd, currently trying to learn and hopefully join a game

[violet basin]

Are you sure about that?

[fossil hollow]

ring of mind shielding + disguise self + amulet of nondetection is one attunement slot

[raw ocean]

What's the max amount of magical items I can equip without attunement

[violet basin]

Technically, infinite.

[fossil hollow]

as many as you can reasonably wear.

[violet basin]

I had a character with twenty Clockwork Amulets, in addition to dozens of other non-attunement items, and the 3 base attunement slots.

[fossil hollow]

e.g., you can have 10 rings, one for each finger; one robe; one helm; one goggle' two gloves; one pair of shoes; etc

[violet basin]

Scale Mail clockwork amulets...

[violet basin]

Don't forget about the toes....

[fossil hollow]

anything else is free real estate

[raw ocean]

So 10 rings [20 if we count toes], 1 hat, 1 set of braces, 1 set of boots, 1 set of pants and shirt, one facewear, one cape [2 if you wear them weirdly]

[hot marlin]

Belt too.

[fossil hollow]

essentially. DM may rule otherwise

[raw ocean]

Belt too

[violet basin]

You can also wear a circlet, with a hat. Monocale/glasses, mantle, greaves, braces, gloves x2 with some that 'turn into a second skin"

[raw ocean]

But if it's RAW and im already level 17 and rich I will have a good argument?

[hot marlin]

And people can wear many bracelets. As my own arm currently can attest

[fossil hollow]

still up to DM. they are the ones you have to convince in the end

[hot marlin]

And earrings!

[violet basin]

The best rule I've seen is "you can wear whatever you want as long as you add the right weights, and nothing overlaps in a weird way."

[raw ocean]

Really don't see much the DM can argue against, if it can be worn without trouble it's fine in my book

[violet basin]

loxodons can wear so many earings...

[fossil hollow]

i miss having multiple rubber bracelets... my other two broke, and now I'm stuck with a bland orange one...

[raw ocean]

Although I do understand arguing the 20 rings and multiple capes

[violet basin]

multiple capes no, a cape and a mantle, or a cloak and a mantle, yes.

[hot marlin]

Oh and piercings. No magical tongue piercing or nose ring yet but we can hope

[raw ocean]

Technically you can wear like 4 rings on one finger [gotta give up some joint movement]

[violet basin]

I draw the line at no thumb rings

[raw ocean]

so 50 rings

[fossil hollow]

now, i think the rules say one ring per finger for magical ones

[violet basin]

but big toe rings are fine

[raw ocean]

10 magical, 10 reguler, make them struggle if they want to steal my good ones

[fossil hollow]

you got half a knuckle duster right there

[violet basin]

as many charms, necklaces, amulets, pins, and other accessories as you feel comfortable with turning yourself into a walking magical radiation zone that sticks out like a sore thumb (which is one of the reasons my owlin died.)

[raw ocean]

How I feel after getting dreads and loading them with magical rings:

Wait, that hair style would actually be fire

[violet basin]

And then there's non attunement items for your belt pouches and bags

[raw ocean]

And now we begin getting into multiple limbs/arms territory

[violet basin]

And, if you really, REALLY want to - you can carry around extra attunement items, and just not use them. for style points.

I think a attunement needing magic sword is still technically a magic sword...if you're not attuned to it

[raw ocean]

They finally get rid of all of my items then they see me opening my mouth with a wish ring wrapped around one of my teeth

[fossil hollow]

still is yeah. you just dont get the specific benefits

no +1, but you still can se it to slash the werewolf to deal damage

[raw ocean]

Atp with magical items, you are getting to biblical levels of greed

Mystra will probably just punish you herself lol

[violet basin]

heheheheh

laughs in owlin hardware with dragon patched software.

[raw ocean]

I love being a DM and punishing my players for being greedy! -Evil DM

Did you just try stealing a wish ring sitting all by itself???

[violet basin]

thats what my dm says, and his name is john!

[raw ocean]

Woah you don't call me DM, you call me "The Great Story Maker" since im such a good DM

Im gonna have to kick you from the campaign

I know we are 267 sessions in and your level 3 but, grow up

[violet basin]

bro, i probably lef that campaign 260 sessions ago if we didnt get to level 5 by session 7.

Lets see, what did my dead bird have... high magic campaign, level 15.

Glass carver, scimitar +3, longbow +3, wraps of unarmed powers, shield +3, cape of the moutebank, medusan lavalier, periapt of proof against poson, suit of the lamb, bloodhound amulet, boots of the bigilant, clockwork earwing, eyes of minute seeing ,eyes of the eagle, gloves of theivery, insignia of claws, lupine mask, morose monocle, periapt of health, wand of detect magic, CLOCKWORK AMULETS (plural), cuddly strixhaven mascot, strixhaven pennant, turtle brooch, turtle brooch, turtle brooch, deep breath., marvelous pigments, rod of security, spirit board, spirit board, spirit board, spirit board, spirit board, faeflame torch, fodling boat, gloves of healing, rope of entaglement, alchemy jug, alchemy jug, arcanists magnificient magnifer, arstromer's boon, bellhop topper, cap of water breathing, circlet of blasting, clockwork med-a-pillar, helm of coprehending languages, house of cards, immovable rods (a few,) rope of climbing, sending stones, wind fan, no-stones, bag of holding, portable hole, handy haversack, ring of animal influence, ring of acid reistance, cold resistance, fire resistance, force resistance, lightning resistance, necrotic resistance, psychic resistance, radiant resistance, thunder resistance, ring of puzzler's wid, ring of swimming, ring of water walking, lock picks of thievery, decander of endless water, eversmoking bottle, seekers compass, potions...deck of wild cards, deck of illusions, deck of wonder...

and some attunement items...

May your TTS have fun with that one

ioun stone of mastery, orb of the viel, chronolometer, jewel of three prayers, a custom item, and all the other attunement requring items in my bag, pack, and person...

I probably missed a thing or four.

[iron kiln]

God what are they doing at dnd beyond I can’t read anything on it
Its black on dark blue lol

[fossil hollow]

might want to uninstall and reinstall ddb

thats usually a cache issue

[coarse ravine]

I like it, 2 rings each finger

The 10 normal rings covering each fingerm

[violet basin]

There have been multiple in-lore characters that have worn 8-10 rings.

No self-respecting non-chosen of mystra archmage would be caught without their hands bedecked in rings.

[hot marlin]

I saw a Bladesinger who disliked wearing rings because he didn't like feeling restricted around his fingers. By the end he certainly could be called an archmage

[raw ocean]

If you above level 10 and a spell caster, you must have 10 magic items in your fit minimum

[violet basin]

cloak of billowing and similar dont count

[raw ocean]

Glammer weave is my go to

[violet basin]

soviergn glue a cloak of billowing to my cloak of protection?

[silver dock]

aint reading allat

[violet basin]

k

[silver dock]

defective cloak of billowing that flies off your shoulders to never be seen again

[raw ocean]

30 cloaks of billowing glued together so when you activate it you get swooped away by the wind

[silver dock]

300 cloaks of billowing glued to your house so you can fly around right from your couch- waaaaait

[violet basin]

what hav i done\

[raw ocean]

Chat what type of character should I make for my next campaign

[violet basin]

a charisma caster that doesnt take any proficienceis in charisma skills

[silver dock]

elven bard who tells outdated jokes

[hazy lava]

I like to play sorcerer elf with schizofrenia and had a lot of intelect and charisma

[violet basin]

they were old and outdated jokes before myth dranor was founded

[raw ocean]

Good suggestions but… I think I’ll go with my totally unique idea of a tiefling rogue whose parents were killed!

[silver dock]

i play a tiefling sorcerer whose parents are in good health

...but disowned her

not for any major dishonor, no

there's just something about her that they don't approve of

-# subtle foreshadowing

[hazy lava]

Imagine playong as a dragon born thiefling, with very healthy parents relationship, a loving wife and kids, rich, hug position, BUT he is a villain for the love of the game

[silver dock]

gee i wonder what i could have been hinting at with the consistent edits

what aspect of her as a person would be so revolting (to some) as to warrant disownment

cough

that's neither here nor there though she doesn't bring it up at all
it's just part of her backstory that will probably be mentioned once it's actually relevant, like if a character asks how her parents are doing

"I don't know, they won't talk to me."

[silver dock]

this would actually be so funny

[raw ocean]

Is she- you know I might get cancelled if I assume something

[violet basin]

psychic blank, pariah gene

[coarse jetty]

Hi

[raw ocean]

I remember one time I assumed some chick wasn’t allowed to inherit her house because she was a girl (we were in a medieval setting so I thought it made sense) and I got kicked out of the campaign

[coarse jetty]

Am new

[violet basin]

that makes sense to me

[raw ocean]

Hi, new

[raw ocean]

I think the DM’s girlfriend was upset or something

[violet basin]

oh well

[coarse jetty]

What are the rules of dnd

[silver dock]

but that's.. that's a perfectly reasonable assumption to make based on historical accuracy!!

[coarse jetty]

How to play dnd

[violet basin]

I sugges you go read them on DndBeyond

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have in #dnd-newcomers

[violet basin]

Since when is historical accuracy as important as 'my feelings'?

[raw ocean]

Yeah the DM’s girlfriend was very controlling of the dude

I hope for his well being

[silver dock]

this has me thinking of a specific song

[raw ocean]

And that’s how I learned to never join campaigns with pre-established relationships

[inner silo]

What do you think about dual wielding with shillelaugh

[knotty pasture]

Speaking of Sorcerer are there any demon/hell themed subclasses in general

[raw ocean]

Isent that like a one sided bow staff

[silver dock]

they're both pretty long

[inner silo]

There's a fire sorcerer that came out with the feyrune books iirc

[glass granite]

May be difficult, Shillelagh only works on one weapon at a time, at least I think

[coarse jetty]

Now am an dm

[bronze wave]

Shadow magic…?

[raw ocean]

Why not slap both of them together and make an extra long shillelagh

And put a circle in between them, and have them spin!

[knotty pasture]

Shadow Sorc's closer to Shadowfell stuff, I was wondering if there's others

[bronze wave]

Isn’t there a fire based sorc sub to?

[glass granite]

I think they’re referring to the spell, but I could be wrong

[inner silo]

Ohh i see. I mean i could dual wield like a scimitar and a club theoretically, for more damage

[knotty pasture]

2014 for the record, 2024 subclasses eludes me

[fossil hollow]

best we got is draconic

but thats not exactly fire focused unless you make it fire

[silver dock]

draconic sorcerer

[inner silo]

But idk if that'd be effective

[raw ocean]

Guys you think my DM will accept my homebrew class “literally mystra herself”???

[violet basin]

yes

[bronze wave]

No

[silver dock]

hey chat did you know you get free armor as a draconic sorcerer

[bronze wave]

Play a blade singer instead

[inner silo]

I would. At least it's not the dark shadow alchemist

[past iron]

You're just starting and you're already DMing? You're braver than most.

[raw ocean]

If I get one more “my parents died and I want revenge” backstory ima be so angry

There’s so many other reasons for wanting revenge

[knotty pasture]

Me when my Aasimar Druid is... kind of literally that

[past iron]

"My evil parents were resurrected and I want revenge"

[silver dock]

"This guy turned my old party against me"

[raw ocean]

You can be saved with context if the story is unique enough

[glass granite]

Theoretically, sure

[inner silo]

I mean, it doesn't get better then "My name is Indigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!"

[raw ocean]

That’s what I’m saying, “He stole my families position in the kingdom!”

[fossil hollow]

inigo my boy

[knotty pasture]

I mean sure but tbf the character wasn't meant to have their whole backstory arc played out

[glass granite]

Your ability scores are gonna be kind weird tho

[knotty pasture]

Or any of my characters for the matter, its as optional as it gets

[raw ocean]

Then the players say they don’t know who killed their parents, like just say you want the DM to give you a hit list atp

[inner silo]

Yeah that definitely. Just thinking that feywild wants more wisdom then dex but i also don't want to sword and board

[glass granite]

Feywild?

[inner silo]

Feywanderer i meant, mb

[knotty pasture]

You don't have to do sword and board, quarterstaves are versatile weapons

[inner silo]

You won't get anything from holding it in two hands with shillelaugh though

[knotty pasture]

You still get the full bonuses, just that its diminishing returns

[silver dock]

cant forget the time i dead serious blurted out "roll for investigation" when malark (cleric) placed a hand on eva (sorcerer/me)'s shoulder

[violet basin]

@raw ocean here's my favorite character's back story. truncated by about 3.5 pages.

He's an owlin, his clan is alive, the clan patriarch and matriarch love him dearly.
He adventures to gain enough power to help defeat an ancient evil mutant kraken that threatens their valley, and if defeated, his grandparents (patriarch and matriarch) can have a vacation for the first time in hundreds of years. (they are not owlins, btw.)

He's happy, likes to explore, and learn. And he's as cocky as can be without being a bard or a barbarian!

[knotty pasture]

Cuz going from 1d6 to 1d8 at the cost of +2 AC is a poor trade imo for someone like Druid

[violet basin]

1d6 and 1d8 are exactly the same in my statistical reckoning.

[knotty pasture]

Yeah just get a shield lol

[inner silo]

I mean, shillelaugh base damage is d8 iirc

[raw ocean]

Fool I’m secretly the story eater, your backstory is going to get turned into mass produced slop now!

[glass granite]

That’s correct (at least in 2024)

[fossil hollow]

at level 5 its d8 yeah in 2024

[violet basin]

Oh well, I have many more. 😄

[silver dock]

i'm planning on eva's story being about

making enough money to pay back the kindness of the person who took her in when she was kicked out of her home

[knotty pasture]

Oh wait nvm it does buff it to 1d8, uhh you're crap out of luck I guess

[silver dock]

:3c
what do u think chat is this good

[glass granite]

I thought it was d10 at level 5 in 2024

[fossil hollow]

.... isnt it d8 > d10 > d12 > 2d6?

wait, you only get three upgrades

[inner silo]

Just checked, it's a d10 at level 5. So you can dual wield with a d10 and eventually a d12 weapon

[fossil hollow]

so yeah. d10

[raw ocean]

The evil DM coming in and having them killed 20 times by (insert generic bbeg)

[silver dock]

if eva's foster mother ends up being dead when she comes back to her

she MIGHT crash out

[dense nacelle]

Since haste is a 3rd level spell, would it be a good pick for the artificer spell storing item

[knotty pasture]

Btw since we're talking about melee Druids anyways

[glass granite]

Just go Shillelagh and shield

[violet basin]

how about my warforged from a lifeless pocket universe that combines all the most horrible bits of 40k, escher, geiger, and some other apocloylptic spagheti that makes the blood war look tame, and a random happenstance transported him into the prime material plane and the ancient arcane continent sized factory that created him is looking for him, to improve its own army and eventually win the war in the pocket universe and then break out of the bubble placed by the overgod, and rampage through the rest of the multiverse?

[knotty pasture]

What's better, Scimitars or Quarterstaves

[inner silo]

I don't like the shield flavour though

[marble linden]

I am a first timer where should i start? my friends had me creat a character and now idk what to do?

[dense nacelle]

I love scimitars for tier 1, nick on a d6 weapon is great early on

[knotty pasture]

Or rather, is it worth going scimitar + any cantrip compared to quarterstaff + Shillelagh

[glass granite]

Me like scimitar

[violet basin]

if its not ranged, it needs to multiply your attack stat damage bonus

[raw ocean]

Best weapon in the game is the sling

[inner silo]

Shillelaugh with club+scimitar

[knotty pasture]

That just hurts my brain

[inner silo]

Sling+magic stones

[knotty pasture]

Why not double scimitar

[raw ocean]

You swing your blade at me and I sling your blade 200 feet away:

[silver dock]

sling + one dozen starving crazed weasels

[dense nacelle]

Best weapon is the blow gun with its amazing 1d1 piercing damage

[inner silo]

Because I'll have lower wisdom then and feywanderer kind of wants to main wisdom iirc

[raw ocean]

Sling + pocket fent

[bronze wave]

D12 to 2d6 is an odd upgrade. Seems more sidegrade?

[silver dock]

hey... you've got weasels on your face

[dense nacelle]

It’s a blatant upgrade, brings the average up to 7 instead of 6

[inner silo]

Now 2 is your lowest damage possible

[knotty pasture]

Idk if that's much of an improvement at later levels

[violet basin]

its not...

[silver dock]

nuh uh!! your lowest damage possible is always 0

[bronze wave]

But getting max dmg id harder from 1/12 to 1/36

[knotty pasture]

Oh thank god I'm hitting someone for 2 damage instead of 1 when I'm level 15?

[dense nacelle]

That’s why you probably shouldn’t be casting shaleighleigh much at higher levels

[inner silo]

Meh

[violet basin]

why isn't there a dexterity version of belts of giant strength (angry dissapointed archer noises.*)

[knotty pasture]

Its a cantrip and lasts for a whole minute, may as well if you have nothing better to do

[fossil hollow]

better consistency/average. same reason why maul over greataxe

[dense nacelle]

Because dex is better than strength

[violet basin]

right, we should get an item for it

[bronze wave]

Sure I more mean every other one is a strict strict upgrade. This is not fully so. Max of the dice Ig

[knotty pasture]

Dexterity is too good of a stat

(Unless you homebrew by adding bg3 items into your table, they do actually have an item like the one you described)

[north bane]

I know this is fake because DMs don’t have girlfriends

[violet basin]

i dont recall a dex item in bg3

[raw ocean]

Me when I use my sling to launch another sling which launches another one so I can get a range of 1 million feet

[dense nacelle]

Like, an item that increases initiative rolls, AC, damage, the most common saving throw, and multiple skill checks is a bit OP

[knotty pasture]

Gloves of Dexterity sets your dexterity to 18

[silver dock]

if i were to ever dm a game with someone new to dnd i would give that player's character and them only a fairy that told the player about game mechanics.. in character, for their character to hear

[raw ocean]

LMAO

[fossil hollow]

we;; cant exactly jump to d20

[bronze wave]

D14 soon trust

[violet basin]

you say that. but...

I am archer and therefore i dont have to believe in melee balance against my superior ranged magnifiicence

[silver dock]

-# if they agree to it ofc

[knotty pasture]

Its epic because as a Rogue/Ranger I'd respec and dump dex in favor of getting 15 + 2 strength for Titanstring Bow

[inner silo]

Does summon fey require good wisdom?

[knotty pasture]

And now I'm fighting with 17 str 18 dex without compromising my offhand slot with Club of Hill Giant Strength

[raw ocean]

“No I don’t need any help learning D&D”… “How do I roll damage?”

[lavish flame]

Where's those funky DCC dice when you need them

[vale sage]

Hi

[violet basin]

oh, there are gloves of dexterity (dex to 18) in bg3.

But i want 21+. melees get up to 29 str from giant strength belts

[dense nacelle]

“Do I roll the d20 for damage?”
“How much damage does armor class block” are two of the most common questions I’m asked when dming

[north bane]

I had this one player join my campaign that insisted on playing John Lenin the singer

[dense nacelle]

Lennon

[silver dock]

"To attack something, you must first make an attack roll! This is done on a d20, and goes against the opponent's AC, or Armor Class."

"what in oblivion is a d20"

[raw ocean]

If you guys had to erase one dice from D&D, what would you erase (excluding D4, we will step on that spiky boy forever)

[bronze wave]

Wait till I get a sword that does 2d20 dmg

[silver dock]

-# Hey! Listen!!

[violet basin]

d20

[lavish flame]

How much do we fr need the d12

[violet basin]

Toll the Dead....

[north bane]

D20

[lavish flame]

Getting rid of the d6 could be fun, given that like every dice game ever uses them

[raw ocean]

D100 personally

[dense nacelle]

I’d get rid of all the damage dice that isn’t a d6, but also keep the d10 for percentile stuff

[bronze wave]

Just cast guidance buddy

[dense nacelle]

I think damage dice should just be a ton of d6’s for everything personally

[north bane]

The game should only be played with a d4

[knotty pasture]

That'd be way too good lol, 18 dex is probably the furthest one should push it

Anything higher and you should just stack dex with ASI instead

[lavish flame]

d4 pools sounds fun tbh

[raw ocean]

Removes D6 and people can’t roll stats anymore lmao:

[silver dock]

i hate the concept of rolling stats

[north bane]

I personally like D6 systems

[violet basin]

I feel like some people don't understand that the game is incomplete without a dex version of belts of giant strength... like gloves of spider's grace... or something

that go to 29

[bronze wave]

This seems horrible

[north bane]

I LOVE watching people roll poorly for stats

[silver dock]

i will always ALWAYS take the 4 hit points

dice have never been kind to me

[dense nacelle]

How is the game incomplete

[bronze wave]

Roll a d20 it’s time!

[north bane]

It’s my bread and butter

[knotty pasture]

You know what we need? A belt of hill giant strength, wisdom/charisma edition

[dense nacelle]

The game seems complete to me brother

[silver dock]

if it ain't point buy, I AIN'T PLAYIN!! 🗣️🗣️

[bronze wave]

What dice should dnd add?

[north bane]

D1000

[raw ocean]

Guys I swear I rolled 6 18’s in a row

[bronze wave]

The humble 4d6?

[dense nacelle]

A d67

[violet basin]

I hate rolling stats with Avrae or DndB it always gives me a sub 70 total with a bunch of 11, 12s, and 13s

[lavish flame]

I've always wished for belts of Giant Strength but for the other stats. Dragons are an easy Charisma supplement.

[lavish flame]

Unironically a d24

[bronze wave]

Why?

[raw ocean]

Be honest if you saw one of your players roll 6 18’s for rolled stats, would you let them keep it?

[dense nacelle]

What would a d24 be used for

[lavish flame]

does advantage better

[dense nacelle]

What happens if you roll above a 20 on an attack roll?

[violet basin]

yes, everyone gets 6 18s, and lets see how good my dm skills are at balancing against that!

[lavish flame]

this is what the d24 in DCC is used for. They also have d16s for this reason

[violet basin]

i am not a dm (ever)

[bronze wave]

Yes

[limber trail]

I have players roll stats publicly. If they really do roll 18 6s, then sure, they can have those stats

[bronze wave]

They rolled it lol

[lavish flame]

it would be a crit on its maximum result? the rules would change to to match the dice

[limber trail]

I accept that as a part of rolled stats

[bronze wave]

I once got a 20 on a 4d6!!!

[silver dock]

if it beats the opponent's armor class, congratulation
however it's important to know that for a nat 20, modifiers are ignored anyway and the action just succeeds

[dense nacelle]

So it’s less likely to crit
How is that better for advantage

[lavish flame]

its more likely to provide higher results

[violet basin]

this may be an unpopular opinion, but i think the basic array is terrible.

it should be a 17, 15, 14, 14, 12, 10

[dense nacelle]

Imo the best part of advantage on attack rolls is having double a chance of crits

[lavish flame]

advantage doesn't have to mean crits are easier, that feels like a very arbitrary measuring stick

[dense nacelle]

Going from 5% to 10% chance to critical hit

[knotty pasture]

What are the current items that set fixed stats anyways, is it just headband of intellect, amulet of health and belt of giant strength?

[raw ocean]

What type of build are you picking if you get a 3 in all of your stats?

[dense nacelle]

A word I can’t say here

[lavish flame]

Gauntlets of Ogre Power as well

[bronze wave]

A d24 seems arbitrary

[violet basin]

whatever i can get killed the fastest, to roll new character and new stats

[silver dock]

seppuku

[knotty pasture]

Oh pog

[limber trail]

It’s actually very slightly less than double, actually 9.75%

[bronze wave]

Paladin duh

[violet basin]

barbarian, 3 str, 3 dex, 3 con

[limber trail]

Cleric/Bard and focusing on spells that don’t use my modifier or saves

[dense nacelle]

I mean still, that’s a major increase from 5%

[violet basin]

oh wow, somehow it got to 1am

see ya tarrasque baits later

[dense nacelle]

Yeah, it’s 1 am, I just got off work lmao

[silver dock]

that's how doubling a percentage works

[dense nacelle]

Does making it a 19 and a 20 not make it 10%?

[limber trail]

Yes

19 and 20 makes it 10%

[lavish flame]

I wish the items that set your stats to a number... just didn't function like that. I wish a Belt of Storm Giant Strength just increased your stat instead of set it to a number. Setting the number feels like it makes your Ability Score Increases obsolete. Increasing the stat keeps the power of the item while still letting ur ASIs matter.

[violet basin]

back to 3.0/3.5 we go

[dense nacelle]

Yes

[silver dock]

if you roll a natural 1 with disadvantage do you even have to make the second roll at that point

[knotty pasture]

See its kind of why I'm pro respecing stats

[dense nacelle]

To see if you double crit fail

[knotty pasture]

If you're a Barb and you came across a Belt of Giant Strength, you can just respec and dump your str

[silver dock]

whAT
THAT'S A THING???

[hot gate]

Bounded accuracy strikes again!

[raw ocean]

If they released super realistic VR, what D&D class are you picking to play in it permanently?

[lavish flame]

there's no lower result so no

[dense nacelle]

No that’s not a thing
But a fun dm will have fun with it

[knotty pasture]

So the Belt of Giant Strength is just a roundabout omniboost to your stats instead

[limber trail]

It’s not, it’s something groups might allow, but it’s not RAW

[silver dock]

if you roll a natural 20 with advantage can you make the second roll just to screw around

[lavish flame]

you can do whatever you want

[knotty pasture]

I mean you could just roll both die at the same time

[limber trail]

Nat 20 with advantage, your second roll is to see if you get a Nat 20 again

[dense nacelle]

I always make the second roll regardless

[raw ocean]

I once rolled a double nat 20, still pretty hyped about it

Now if I ever got a triple I would just eat the dice to make them one with me

[lavish flame]

there aren't really dice police to tell you "You already got the highest result! You are not allowed to roll again!"

[dense nacelle]

I once, on two consecutive insight checks, rolled a 19-20 and a 20-20

With advantage because of rune knight

[lavish flame]

Just be mindful of other ppls time cuz the extra roll does still eat up some amount of time

[silver dock]

"it cant get any worse from here!" i say, oblivious to my die's patterns changing to form a "-38" on the side that shall land face up next roll

[dense nacelle]

-67

[knotty pasture]

I keep hearing good things about Rune Knight but also the fact that it doesn't provide much extra damage output compared to other Fighter subclasses

So what's the niche behind Rune Knight

[silver dock]

my dad glazes runic knight so hard

[dense nacelle]

Beeg

[hot gate]

All the extra defensive features.

[silver dock]

i seduce the bbeg

[lavish flame]

Becoming Huge

[silver dock]

love wins

[hot gate]

And just extra bits and bobs. It passively gives you advantage on quite a few things.

[dense nacelle]

Rune knights can be quite tanky, with their hill rune feature, and the subclass pairs well with a few feats that allow one to increase damage as well

Tier 2 resistance to poison and all physical damages is really good

[lavish flame]

A Rune Knight can do Ms Marvel and Giant Man shenanigans. You literally embiggen.

[knotty pasture]

Ah so just a jack of all trades

[dense nacelle]

Rune knight has the capability of becoming larger than a terrasque

[knotty pasture]

Epic, need to give it a try one day

[hot gate]

At that point you're not counting only rune knight. 😅

[silver dock]

has anyone here actually tried seducing their big bad

[hot gate]

I find it to be a bad meme, so no, not really.

[cloud blade]

Small Questions: as an forge domain cleric, am i able to craft myself a chain mail (75g) with my channel divinity?

[lavish flame]

Generally that kind of stuff just makes the other players very uncomfortable, so no

[silver dock]

ah ok!!

[dense nacelle]

I’ll never do something like that

[lavish flame]

yeah

[dense nacelle]

Also another one of my favorite features from rune knight is their lean into crafting, gaining expertise with all artisan tools they have proficiency in is really neat

But you have to have a fun dm for this to work well

[hot gate]

That... no they don't. Are you playing some kind of homebrew rune knight?

[silver dock]

im going to bed. goodnight, dragonslayer ornstein and the rest of chat

[dense nacelle]

Look at the rules for the fire rune feature

[hot gate]

Oh, it's not called expertise but if functionally works like expertise, got it.

[dense nacelle]

It’s weird wording, but essentially “expertise for x checks”

Maybe because there’s no other way to gain expertise for tool checks

I absolutely love the subclass, it’s one of the most flavorful and fun to execute

[hot gate]

Agree, my long standing pc is a runeknight multiclass and I love playing her.

[coarse ravine]

I honestly didn't respect fighters at all till I ran into a rune knight at high level

[dense nacelle]

A pc that I’m trying to play is a Goliath rune knight, and she’s super fun

[coarse ravine]

Rune knights high level had some defensive protection methods and were very much formidable

[dense nacelle]

[hot gate]

That's actually exactly what my pc is too. Goliaths just feel too appropriate.

[dense nacelle]

A high level rune knight can just deny other martials their very existence, and lock down spellcasters.

“HA! I crit you! You’re about to take so much damage…”
“No, you just crit your wizard”
Pans over to the now deceased wizard.

[hot gate]

Eh, it's good without the need for hyperbole. 😅

[coarse ravine]

Yeah I had no idea what they were doing ( I don't play fighter) but they seemed to be able to hang with the spellcasters of the group. After that day I respected rune knight

[dense nacelle]

With the right setup they can be so incredibly tanky, sometimes i believe it can out-tank a barbarian.

Less hp, but potentially higher AC, resistance to physical damage, and because they can actually wear armor they can benefit from heavy armor master

[coarse ravine]

Can't out tank the moon druid tho. Sorry spellcasters for the W. But yeah i have never really respected martials... Just cause why use swords and shields when there is magic in the air. But rune knights are special

Specially huge lol.

[remote wadi]

Three Houses for me. It was my first exposure to RPGs and holy moly, I still talk about it

[dense nacelle]

Actually fighters in 2024 can heal themselves quite a bit, 4 second winds each being a d10+fighter level

And with the new dragon mark origin feat, access to the shield spell, and a great reaction

[coarse ravine]

Yeah I took that with my first campaign

[dense nacelle]

Honestly was debating putting a level into wizard simply for shield

[coarse ravine]

Dont get to keep the spell just a one time use

But.... still handy day to day.

[dense nacelle]

One time per long rest, yeah

[coarse ravine]

Or warlock

So you can regain it

Short rest.

[dense nacelle]

It’s like a last resort, storm rune isn’t active, runic shield is out, cloud rune is out, or you just know you’re about to be hit quite a few times in one turn so the extra ac is nice

Warlocks I think need to be a certain level to gain access to the shield spell, unless if I’m remembering incorrectly

[hot gate]

It's a level 1 spells, so level 1. But they probably don't want to.

[coarse ravine]

I think hexblade offers the option

[dense nacelle]

It’s not a warlock spell, though

[coarse ravine]

Hexblade spell optional

[hot gate]

oh that was it

[dense nacelle]

Yeah, but that’s 3 levels for a single spell

[coarse ravine]

I think it's level 1

[hot gate]

It's not like those 3 levels just give you one spell.

[dense nacelle]

2024 you don’t get your subclass until level 3

[coarse ravine]

Ah 2024 blows

2014 for the W

[hot gate]

It made a lot of things a lot more balanced, I love 2024.

[dense nacelle]

Fair, but I also don’t want to be dumping points into charisma for other spellcasting

I love 2024, made martials great

Buffed healing a ton

[hot gate]

I started playing my rune knight in 2014 and the group switching to 2024 was like a free buff.

[coarse ravine]

Best damage cantrip in the game. Warlock stuff... but yeah without 1 level of warlock stuff thats pretty wack.

I wouldn't take 3 levels either.

[dense nacelle]

Ehh, I’m a fighter, being able to hit 3 times with a cantrip that only deals a d10 damage isn’t necessarily helpful

[coarse ravine]

2 levels max for the invocations.

No need for the pact.

[coarse ravine]

I mean good range tho. But yeah you have a bow

[dense nacelle]

I can just hit for a 1d8+5+1d6

[coarse ravine]

How many times.

[hot gate]

Same as eldritch blast.

[dense nacelle]

Thrice for the 1d8+5, once with the d6

[coarse ravine]

To be fair

[dense nacelle]

One of the three adds the d6

[coarse ravine]

Y9u can do the same thing but now with the hex spell..... if ya had warlock

[dense nacelle]

And I can push, sap, slow, or vex a target

[coarse ravine]

And hex curse.

[hot gate]

But the warlock will fall over if an enemy looks at it wrong. Rune knight on the other hand.

[dense nacelle]

And I’ve got strike of the giants: fire strike, and fire giant embers burn

[coarse ravine]

Im saying rune knight + hex

[hot gate]

That's a level investment I'm not keen on.

[coarse ravine]

Can give them more damage.

[hot gate]

That's not more damage, that's alternative damage in most cases.

[dense nacelle]

So I can, potentially, deal 1d8+1d6+5 piercing +2d10+2d6 fire

[coarse ravine]

Yeah rune knights are cool

Just take a feat i guess.....

• if ya are able to land a epic boon from it thats huge

[dense nacelle]

And if I’ve got a wizard willing I can get a d4 extra damage dice

And, yeah, multiclassing in 2024 is kinda difficult because epic boons exist

[coarse ravine]

I mean abberant dragonmark

They give out epic boons now?

[dense nacelle]

Epic boons received a massive buff from 2014, combat prowess is amazing now

At level 19 every single class gets an epic boon or a feat of their choice

[coarse ravine]

Ive never actually seen a epic boon given out

[coarse ravine]

Oh thats awesome.

Along with their asi?

[dense nacelle]

No

It takes place of the asi

[coarse ravine]

I mean... feats do anyways so im OK with that

[dense nacelle]

It basically is an ASI but you can also choose an epic boon if you’d like

[hot gate]

I'm curious: have you ever played in a campaign up to epic boon levels?

I know I haven't.

[dense nacelle]

I have not, but I’ve tried very hard to keep campaigns from falling apart so I can

[humble pollen]

I was at comic con last week, saw one of those digital tables made by crafty Kobolds. I really want something like that. But I'm probably going to stop running DnD in 2026.

[dense nacelle]

I’ve had so many campaigns fall apart from outside drama it’s actually sad

[hot gate]

I've been mostly spared trauma and have propely finished quite a few campaigns, but those mostly ended around levels 10-12.

[knotty pasture]

Such is life

[humble pollen]

I ran one game from lvl 2 to 20, but that was back in 3.5

[knotty pasture]

I guess there's merits to being a forever DM, you are more in control over campaigns falling apart or not

[hot gate]

Still there are lots of factors you don't control. Life happens.

[knotty pasture]

There's such a large amount of players ready to join that you can assemble a full party again just fine

's mostly why I wanna try DMing online for a oneshot or short campaign, make my own opportunities instead of hoping people pick me up on dnd online games like a stray

[hot gate]

Oh yeah, lack of players is a problem I never had, but the issue is usually:

• Do the players have a playstyle that is compatible with my DMing
• Are the players willing to agree to (and able to keep to) a regular playing schedule

One shots are a great way to find out the first point.

[knotty pasture]

I fortunately have a oneshot in mind

[coarse ravine]

Mhm but then you plan a session and 2 of the players don't show up. One maybe you planned all week to have a backstory arc with them.

So yes you can get new players but the planning changes with them. So it's wasted planning at that point

[still plover]

As the DM, it's good to have a regular schedule you can stick to. A selection of adventuresome situations to deploy as needed helps too.

[knotty pasture]

I should look into learning how to wing it and do bare minimum planning to avoid these situations from happening

[still plover]

A rubric I use is: situation, location, opposition, complication. Get those four things down, even if it's just a word for each, and start spinning.

[digital ferry]

Hello can i share my homebrew item here?

[knotty pasture]

#homebrew

[glacial pulsar]

Would you guys find playing a treant treefolk race more interesting to play or a playable humanoid race that has secondary tree-like aspects (like barkskin on specific patches of skin, hair made with tree branches and leaves, but a humanoid face etc etc)??

And a fish-like race Locathah or a humanoid race with fish qualities?

[still plover]

Talking warforged against wood elves, to me.

[jagged gulch]

Hello

[still plover]

Howdy.

[still plover]

I mean, it's for your own setting, right? What function do you want filled? A variant on an existing species, close enough, or something quite different occupying their own distinct niche?

[glacial pulsar]

Fulfill a Guardians of nature role. Havent heard of anything existing like I have official race wise

[still plover]

Did a tiefling character with shark-like features once, was just another tiefling far as anyone was concerned.

What you're describing there sounds like classic wood elf with a slight emphasis on their physical description.

[glacial pulsar]

Right but itd be interesting to replace their role with something more literal

[knotty pasture]

For fish like races we have the Triton and Sea Elves too

[glacial pulsar]

Trying to guange interest if opl find more tree like races or humanoid with tree traits more intetesting

[knotty pasture]

I'm w/e towards it, though one may need to be careful of overspecialization where sea races could feel like they only stand out in aquatic campaigns

[still plover]

Go with what you find more interesting. You'll not get a consensus here.

[knotty pasture]

I'm more of a fan towards sea creatures, there's several subraces that are forest themed as is

[glacial pulsar]

Can't decide unfort

50/50

[knotty pasture]

Forest Gnomes, Wood Elves, that one forest based Halfling subrace

Plant based spells are aplenty too, but sea based spells/races are severely lacking

[rotund shell]

I've had to be REAL creative with spells of sea and sky when playing a Lyrandar character

[still plover]

I feel if you're going to go full alien, the ent, the deep ones, you've got to reflect that in the world. They can't be just folk. They should have a unique culture and aspects to them that both root them in the setting and set them apart from others.

[white zodiac]

Anyone know a class/subclass that's similar to an artist?

[rotund shell]

Alchemist Artificer with Calligraphy proficiency. Your potions are magically enchanted ink and your spells are different scrolls you prepared in your downtime.

[hollow estuary]

Artificer!

[white zodiac]

Ooohh thankss

[rotund shell]

alternately, Artillerist for a similar vibe. Your arcane firearm is a wand or staff that is a giant brush, and you paint the spell effect into existance

[hollow estuary]

New 2024 artificer has a cartographer subclass

[white zodiac]

I'll try if I could try to slip it in tho cause my DM is (I think) using a 1e base??

[rotund shell]

oh does it?

[still plover]

Not to be that guy, but are you sure you mean 1e?

[white zodiac]

I'm new so like idk what I'm talking abt 💔

[still plover]

The current game is on 5th Edition which is currently in its 2024 version. The previous version was 2014.

I'm only saying as this game has been around for a while and while First Edition still exists and folk do play it, it's pretty rare to see these days and it can cause some confusion.

[white zodiac]

Oh wait nvm they use 4e

[rotund shell]

...man, it's been a while since I thought about 4e classes.

[still plover]

Ah, gotcha! Unfortunately that's got some significant differences from the current version so advice given here isn't always going to line up. However, there is a channel for it called #dnd-elder-editions that might be able to give specific advice.

[knotty pasture]

Bards in general are pretty artist like, artists don't have to only draw right?

Anyone can be an artist if their work is related to creativity, so it can be writing and singing too

[still plover]

Best source of advice aside from the above is likely to be your own DM. Explain your vision, ask what would best help you fulfill it.

[quaint saddle]

Anyone got Some Campaigns?

[jovial badger]

wym

[still plover]

Are you looking to run one or play in one?

[mortal mountain]

What does foundry vtt mean?

[rotund shell]

Foundry is a virtual tabletop

[mortal mountain]

Also how do i add more points in point buy? I have only 27 points in lvl 3 class

[rotund shell]

you don't, RAW.

[noble basin]

you always have 27

[mortal mountain]

Heh? I'm getting asked to make a 35 point character from a server

Use 35 point buy it says

[noble basin]

well 27 is the standard but some dms want you to be a bit stronger

[rotund shell]

then you have to use an external calculator and manually input your stats

RAW, the max is 27, and you can't change that on Beyond

[mortal mountain]

Oh ok, that's why there's another link for it

[still plover]

This horrible looking link should do it. It's Chicken Dinner's point-buy calculator set to 35 points.

https://chicken-dinner.com/5e/5e-point-buy.html#select&NA&8&8&8&8&8&8&0&0&35&15&8&19&15&12&9&7&5&4&3&2&1&0&1&2&4&6&9&4&4&4&4&4&4

[rotund shell]

I forgot how awful chicken's calc links are.

love the calculator, hate the links lol

[mortal mountain]

Yep i just used it thanks

If i were to transfer it to d&d beyond do i just change the stats in the character sheet?

[still plover]

Yes, set the ability scores to manual/ custom and just put your numbers in.

[noble basin]

what even causes this link 😭

[red steppe]

My Sorcerer friend burned away my Web for 4 more damage 🥲

[noble basin]

people thinking burning web is the optimal choice is always so funny to me.

[red steppe]

I was trying to restrain the ice troll and the other beast creature

[noble basin]

I always try to communicate about the ideas in combat but not always possible

[still plover]

Using Chicken Dinner's custom rules to change the point-buy budget to 35.

[still plover]

Yeah, sometimes you want to talk basic strategies before you play.

[hidden spindle]

There is a way. Adding Honor and Sanity ability scores. You get 3 additional points each optional ability score you add.

[red steppe]

Fair enough, tho their spell list was mostly the ones that dealt damage except for Command

[inner silo]

What do you think of summon fey?

[shadow urchin]

Hi everyone

[hollow lance]

just found out a level 20 dex based champion with elven accuracy and a familiar has a 91.265% chance to crit every turn

[hollow stone]

i mean that sounds scary but also level 20s are very rare

[hollow lance]

hold on let me calculate the chance at level 3

[red steppe]

Can u elaborate

[hollow lance]

okay it's 46.856 at level 3 and goes up with every extra attack

[still plover]

Fine? It's a level 20 build with that exact goal in mind. I'm not arguing with it.

[knotty pasture]

Crit fishing is kinda eh anyways

You can probably push the chance close to 100% with some magical items iirc

[red steppe]

If only Wave wasn't made into an Artifact in AL.....

[hollow lance]

okay SO

champion fighter crits on 18, 19, or 20, so a 3/20 on every attack roll, which is 15%
elven accuracy means when you have 3 dice rolled when you have advantage, which means 38.5875%
familiar so you can have advantage on your first attack
then use the vex feature to have advantage on your follow up attacks
you attack 5 times a turn (3 extra attacks, 1 attack, and 1 offhand attack)
so thats 91.265%

[hollow stone]

i'm pretty sure that crits are outdone past like level 3 by Sneak Attack too, right? like are crits even that viable?

[knotty pasture]

They aren't, but its satisfying to watch

[red steppe]

This doesnt use up any resources?

[stuck shuttle]

Yeah it’s not super practical but critting often is fun

[knotty pasture]

Like if you want crit fishing in the most literal sense, cast Hold Monster on someone and just beat them to a pulp within the turn

[hollow lance]

nope, just action, bonus action, and a familiar

[red steppe]

Oh awesome

[stuck shuttle]

I feel like this also assumes your familiar isn’t dead the second the monster has their turn

[red steppe]

Dont DMs often shoot down familiars outside combat first

[hollow lance]

it doesn't need to survive more than a turn against a boss monster since vex applies until the end of your next turn

[knotty pasture]

Shadow Sorc's hound summon + hold monster kind of does the same thing

[hollow lance]

you just need a familiar so your first attack of the round is at advantage

[stuck shuttle]

Ehh it depends on DM

[hollow stone]

idk, i feel like building a character with crits in mind takes away the special tbh, it's just a worse Sneak Attack after a really short amount of time

[stuck shuttle]

If your DM puts a Tier 4 boss that goes down in 1 round that’s on them haha

[hollow lance]

also when we get a 2024 version of the moonblade it'll probably be allowed to steal weapon properties and make the build even grosser

[red steppe]

Whats the build's base damage without crits?

[hollow lance]

62.5

without using any extra feats like savage attacker

[red steppe]

Ah nice

Then crits must be double right

[stark arch]

is there sush a thing as auto casting? like when a 8 hour or 24 hour spell wears off you recast the spell and write off the spellslot with out saying any thing?? or do i need to tell the dm that im casting the spell?

[knotty pasture]

Pragmatically yes, but big red numbers scratch an inch in us emotionally

[hollow lance]

no 5e crits are weird you roll the damage dice twice and add them together

[red steppe]

Ah darn

[hollow lance]

so with a crit the damage is only 67

[red steppe]

Sneak Attack is only once per turn

[hollow lance]

but most dms say lol no to that being how crits work

[stuck shuttle]

The dice average only going up 4.5 seems miscalculated

[hollow lance]

thats the average roll on 1d8

[glass granite]

4.5

[stuck shuttle]

Ah that’s what you mean

[knotty pasture]

But yeah as nice as the crit chance is, with magic items its kind of a given for a fair amount of martials

Then ofc there's stuff like Shadow Sorc + Hold Monster

[red steppe]

What does shadow sorcerer do?

[knotty pasture]

Hound of Ill Omen has an aura that automatically gives disadvantage on saving throws

Which increases the chances of Hold Monster taking effect

[faint musk]

Yo anyone wanna start a campaign? (Idk if this is the right channel for this HAHA)

[hollow lance]

it is not

#find-a-game

[stuck shuttle]

Not taking into account accuracy or crit chance or fighting styles pretty sure a 2024 GWM PAM user gets 73.5 resourceless

[faint musk]

Ohh gotcha

[knotty pasture]

There's Heightened Spell ofc but sending a pet to help out sounds cooler

[faint musk]

It didn’t show up on my screen for some reason😭

[quaint saddle]

play

[still plover]

Plenty of games online.

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

As long as you keep your eyes open and avoid games that say "experienced players only" or "highly optimised characters required" you shouldn't have any problem joining as a newcomer.

[toxic wigeon]

Good evening, wished to ask if anybody could help me with a question I have about Owlbear Rodeo

How do you roll dice in it

[silk hare]

as in a scenario your dm gave you?

or what do you mean exactly?

[hot gate]

For rolling the dice within owlbear, look for the official dice extension and install that. A dice button will pop up in the upper left corner.

[vagrant kestrel]

Hey Wizards or the Coast. This was a really shitty thing you did here. https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1pe8pl1/dd_beyond_banned_my_account_for_a_refund_i_needed/

This pissess me off, even though it wasn't done to me. Others need to know that this is how you treat customers.

[vagrant kestrel]

Watch, they will probably ban my account now out of spite. It seems like they would do that. It's petty enough.

[toxic wigeon]

Thanks

[lofty horizon]

Anyone running a one shot this afternoon?

[pulsar palm]

Hello guys

[sonic quiver]

Hi there! I spotted this yesterday and escalated it. This is currently being looked into.

[stray sage]

how good of a cantrip is chill touch?

[toxic wigeon]

Would give it 7/10

[stray sage]

im talking about 2014 chill touch specifically

[still plover]

Most helpful against targets that have some kind of healing, or undead that might be inclined to attack you. The disadvantage on attacks only applies if they target you though.

Usually though, I'd say another cantrip would have more effect.

[limber trail]

2014 is decent to have, there’s usually better options

[cinder timber]

Have you guys ever left a campaign cuz of a new player that has joined?

[oak grotto]

Not really. But it's not that's a strange concept.

[cinder timber]

I just don't like this dude. He is weird😭

[oak grotto]

Fair.

[cinder timber]

And his PC kinda insufferable

[still plover]

In what way?

[minor cargo]

I’ve left a table before because I didn’t get along with the players. I was a lot younger and I could’ve done it more politely, but I’m glad I said and did something instead of just suffering through it or ghosting them.

[valid geyser]

i havent left many tables for any super bad reasons besides schedule and/or just that I wasn't having enough fun

[cinder timber]

The player is weird, and the PC sounds weird and is full of himself.

[knotty basin]

What kind of weird

[cinder timber]

Just weird. I don't know how to further specify.

I can just interact with the other PCs. I'm a wizard, so I dont have to interact with him.

[still plover]

What do you know about their character?

[shy stirrup]

Online or IRL? Surely if this player is as you say, the rest of the table has, or will notice

[cinder timber]

He goes by "king"

[cinder timber]

Online

[still plover]

Anything else?

[oak grotto]

I mean we're not getting much info on this guy or his character so we can't give our opinion on this person.

[cinder timber]

Man, yall inquisitive. You know when you just meet someone and you just don't like em. That's basically it.

I'm the wizard of the group, so I'll just RP with who I want to RP with

[ancient marsh]

Good morning

[oak grotto]

Then I guess I can't really relate to your situation then.

[shy stirrup]

Could just be a bad first impression, give him a chance
Or, your first impression is merely the first sign, either way, maybe let things play out, if this player crosses a line or lines, bring it up with the DM

[cinder timber]

I'll just RP with who I want to RP with, no problem

[hollow stone]

i mean i just think you should have heard them out. i knew a guy who called himself "Seventh Son of A Seventh Son" and i figured he'd be completely insufferable but i still tolerated them choosing to exist near me and he wasn't super bad (he was later removed for doing some severe infractions, but not interpersonal ones)

[cinder timber]

1.) My PC doesn't care for royals
2.) I don't really like the dude.

But I appreciate the advice.

[still plover]

Sure, that's an option. Might be worth getting five minutes to chat person to person. Perhaps you'll find out more about them when they're not in-character and on-stage.

[oak grotto]

I mean... a PC not getting along with another PC isn't a valid reason to leave a group. In my opinion at least.

[woven flint]

Hello, friends 🧐

[hollow stone]

hold on, you keep saying this, are you saying you're still in the group but choosing not to interact with them when RPing? cause that's completely fine

[cinder timber]

Oh it is? Okay, ill keep doing that

[oak grotto]

I don't think it is.

Staying in a group while doing everything you can to avoid them isn't a healthy mindset.

[woven flint]

Yes, sometimes characters aren't gonna like other characters, and sometimes characters go through character development to become better more likable people

[hollow stone]

that's even a realistic thing for a character to do, i know because i do that, i don't talk to people until i know what sort of person they are and then decide whether or not i wanna talk to them

[cinder timber]

Im avoiding onr person

[cinder timber]

That is true. I'll just do that. I like the other 4 PCs

[hollow stone]

don't always always super avoid them, but just bite your tongue instead of whispering unknowable evils to them and wait to see if you're willing to stand them

[oak grotto]

My opinion remains unchanged.

[cinder timber]

If my PC don't like him, it would be realistic for my PC not to talk to them

And, I'm not a cleric or anything so I don't have to talk to him.

[woven flint]

You could at least TRY to interact occasionally.

[oak grotto]

Since when do clerics need to talk more than wizards?

[hollow stone]

yea, you're entitled to that opinion, i just think this approach is the nearest compromise until Zenith decides they don't hate this guy

[cinder timber]

I don't heal people. I'm not a support in that sense.

[oak grotto]

You don't need to talk to the people you're healing.

A fighter and a wizard will talk to their party members just as much as a ranger or cleric.

Healers might have more doctor like conversations. That's it.

[woven flint]

Yeah
"I don't have to talk to people because I'm not a Cleric."
Isn't really a sensicle statement lol

[cinder timber]

I meant like I dont interact with other classes as much mechanically. I don't heal people or cast bless or guidance. That is what I meant.

[woven flint]

It's still always good to try to communicate with your party anyway

[oak grotto]

So... if you like get the haste spell you'll refuse to cast it on this king guy?