dnd-discussion

[hollow stone]

idk, Nick seems like a good Mastery for brass knuckles, bc punch fast

[mystic summit]

How do I find text dnd?

[tender pier]

I wonder, how powerful are the DnD bosses if power scaled?

[coarse ravine]

Pretty strong..

[still plover]

Look for games listed as play by post. Roll20 also has a filter for text only games.

[coarse ravine]

I mean I finally found tne monster medusa from earlier. (Different topic)

But the monster was Hythonia.
Super super nasty monster. but dm raised the dc to 20 for the con save and the health up to 400 for the first health. After she does her short rest thing she got tne normal 199 health.

She's only cr 17 but with those buffs she's wicked

[jovial badger]

i was thinkin

3 charges per day
when you hit someone w your fists you can expend a charge.
the target must succeed on a dc16 strength saving throw or be knocked prone
refresh at dawn

[coarse ravine]

The normal dc is only 18 so I guess it ain't too crazy

But extra health tho.

[jovial badger]

wym?

[coarse ravine]

I mean theirs magic items for this

[coarse ravine]

Their wraps of unarmord power. You can just flavor them as brass knuckles

[jovial badger]

prowess?

or eldritch claw tattoo?

[rough basalt]

Man, these maps I got feel like highway robbery for their price

[south badge]

How much?

[rough basalt]

10

They're storage devourers and had to manually download it all tho

So that's the offset

[tender pier]

I've found my answer

[coarse ravine]

Put it simply out of a party of 5 I was the only one that survived

Why? Cause I was a earth elemental... and they don't petrify

||Moon druids for the win||

[rough basalt]

Come to the realization that these maps will blow some of my players PCs up

[still plover]

What size are they (Mb & pixels)?

[plain pebble]

How can I join a game of D&D

[kind bramble]

is it just me or (at least 2014) does soulknife at level 9 feel like minato from naruto xD the psionic blade throw teleport is literally just like his flying raijin where he teleports to his thrown kunai

[plain pebble]

I’m looking for a D&D party to join

[still plover]

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[open plover]

HIHIHIHIHIHI IM NEWWW AND IM REALLY INTERESTEDDDD

[still plover]

Check out #dnd-newcomers for some handy guides on getting started.

[open plover]

THANKK YOUU!!!!

[uncut zenith]

Also, careful when using all caps

Server rules ask that we don’t use all caps in our messages because it can mess with people’s screen readers, which some visually impaired individuals may rely on

[covert lion]

hey, Im looking for a group to play with

Im brand new and Im not that good with the rules though

[reef tundra]

#dnd-newcomers

[stuck shuttle]

As everyone else has said to help learn the rules of the game there's #learn-to-play and #dnd-newcomers

If you just wanted the server's groupfinding resource check out #find-a-game for the instructions

[toxic kraken]

Hey, long time player, soon to be first time DM, does anyone know a server that specialises in dm discussions/ a place to bounce ideas off each other?

I’ll be so honest it’s such a daunting task

[covert lion]

Thank you, all of you

[rough basalt]

Dunno but the whole collection was about 40-50GBs

Just for the foundry modules.
Then for the printables and raw maps it was about 100gbs I think

[tidal bough]

#dm-discussion ?

[rough basalt]

Cause most maps have like 10-20 variants.

[tidal bough]

Unless you wanted a full server for it but idk

[toxic kraken]

😭 This wasn’t in my added channels and now I feel silly

[tidal bough]

Add the dm role to yourself and it should add all the dm channels or most of the important ones

[knotty basin]

What can I take to knock people prone as a rogue? I don’t see any great feats for it

[brittle beacon]

Isn't there a feat that gives battle master maneuvers?

[tidal bough]

Im assuming for consistently doing it

[knotty basin]

Maybe charger?

[knotty basin]

Yes, once per short or long rest

[tidal bough]

Don't take feats, just wait till lvl 5

[knotty basin]

Why? What do I get at level 5?

[brittle beacon]

I assume 2014

[tidal bough]

Trip attack?

[knotty basin]

This is 2014

[tidal bough]

Ah i see, should probably be specified in the question as the questions are generally implied to be for the latest version otherwise

[knotty basin]

I already have slasher, so I think I’ll take charger next level

[tidal bough]

Uhh what about shield bashing people?

Prolly abit late to add it if you've already got a character but if you managed to get shield prof and shield master

[karmic mason]

What alignment would Alucard from Hellsing be

Cause I feel like it's chaotic good.

[tidal bough]

Never been a massive fan of the alignment system but id prolly go with neutral good

[limber trail]

There’s a fighting style that gives them

Or at least there was in 2014, I don’t remember about 2024

[still plover]

Martial adept. You get two moves but only one die (refresh on SR). If it were two dice I'd say it was worth it.

[tidal bough]

You could possibly dip a level into monk for martial arts and then use the flurry attack as a shove attack

Im not sure if thats someone monks can do since I havent really played monk but I think it works

[humble cairn]

Rogue '24 can do that innately with a Cunning Strike.

[still plover]

Only if you're unarmoured and not using a shield, though. Dex focus and mage armour could help.

[humble cairn]

Ahh, I see it is not a '24 Rogue.

[humble cairn]

Could be a lot since Alignment is super vague, doesn't matter anyway, Alignment is a terrible tool to describe character psychology, better to write a good PBIF (Personality, Bonds, Ideals, Flaws) instead.

[shy hound]

guys give me a very basic name justa basic common name

[humble cairn]

If it's 2014 that doesn't work.

[shy hound]

give me one

[tidal bough]

Damn

[humble cairn]

Dexter

[rotund shell]

Damian

[crimson gulch]

Po

[shy hound]

hmm too ninja

[obsidian cape]

Tom

[shy hound]

tooo panda

[humble cairn]

How is "Damian" ninja like?

[shy hound]

i need very basic name for a guy who sounds and looks like an npc

[shy hound]

DC

[crimson gulch]

Normand Pique Caliente NPC

[humble cairn]

This isn't a very good explanation, are you referring to Damian Wayne?

[shy hound]

how about JOHN smith

[shy hound]

yeah in the comics technically assassina are ninjas sooo same thing in my eyes

[still plover]

You got a cultural reference you want to draw from (aside from Batman)?

[humble cairn]

Damian = Damian Wayne = assassin = ninja is ... a looot of leaps.

[rotund shell]

that is so far away from what ninjas are, but okay...

[humble cairn]

But anyway, you never objected to dexter.

[shy hound]

dexter sounds too unique in my eyes

[humble cairn]

It's a regular person name? Okay how about Donald?

[fossil summit]

Lawful evil

[shy hound]

now i like the sound of that im gonna give it to a duck

[fossil summit]

John.

[shy hound]

bingo

now is smith a very common name to have?>

[humble cairn]

Never heard of it.

[shy hound]

sorry wrong spelling i mean smith

[fossil summit]

John Smith is the literal most common name in britain

[shy hound]

now if you think about a guy who's name john smith,what do you think about if you were adventurer?

[fossil summit]

If that helps

[limber trail]

Michael

[glad arch]

Our cleric is named John Clergy

[fossil summit]

John Smith. Human fighter. Blonde. Greatsword.

[shy hound]

you almost complete that the wrong you have was blond and greatsword

[shy hound]

he must be clerg

[fossil summit]

Those are certainly words.

[glad arch]

Dont know 100% but believe it is actually clergy

[shy hound]

make sense

[glad arch]

They tried making the most average character, average length, everage age, average name

Except the whole divine cknnection to god bit ofcourse

[fossil summit]

John Smith, Human fighter. 20 years old, 6'2. Male, blonde, greatsword.

[shy hound]

what if a guy who's just completely average no specialities

like his goal is just have a comfortable and affordable life

[woven flint]

John Dungeons and Dragons

[shy hound]

what's zat?

[fossil summit]

Then he wouldn't be an adventurer

He would just be John Smith, peasant npc

[shy hound]

well what if he becomes adventurer bc to try to connect himself with his community and try to have sort of fun or exicitement in his life just tiny inch of it

[woven flint]

I'm John Dungeons and Dragons, I'm actually a Human Barbarian and I'm looking for the man who killed my brother!

[fossil summit]

Me connecting with my community by leaving it constantly and having a bit of excitement by nearly dying in mortal combat.

[woven flint]

Speaking of Barbarians..
I'm playing a Centaur Barbarian soon 👀

[shy hound]

like he joins a party bc he heard it gives 10% income than a sole adventurer and technically keep himself safe

[shy hound]

now i see the flaws now

[woven flint]

Jiddurn Moonscorns the name
Rippin' heads off for the Zhentarim is the game 🧐

[shy hound]

time to improve his goals

[fossil summit]

I'm John "D&D" Smith, I'm a Wizard of the Coast. I'm looking for the man that killed my parents.

[minor cargo]

To be fair, wanting a comfortable life, surrounded by friends and family and being an adventurer aren't mutually exclusive. Samwise Gamgee from Lord of the Rings is a classic example of this.

[shy hound]

make sense even the hobbit unc guy

now the question is who's first lord of the rings or DND

[minor cargo]

Yeah, Frodo's is an especially sad case of that - because of how the Hero's Journey goes, he's changed and for Frodo, he couldn't go back. Bittersweet. 🥲

[glad arch]

Prepare to die

[shy hound]

well technically he's equivalent of veteran

[orchid root]

Hi

[shy hound]

hola echo echo

[woven flint]

Dark Souls: Remastered, Prepare to Die Edition?
My favorite!!!

[glad arch]

-# echo echoo

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, following the Hero’s Journey model, most adventurers don’t really want to be adventurers forever. They’re getting a job done so they can go back to their relatively peaceful lives.

[shy hound]

is that BEN 10 REFERENCE

[orchid root]

Hola como estas?

[humble cairn]

You know "common" is very relative. Where I live Somjai is a super common man's name.

[shy hound]

ah

[shy hound]

Bueno. como esta el tuyo?

[uncut zenith]

Not to be a stick in the mud, but please remember that for moderation purposes this is an English only server.

[humble cairn]

Unfortunately one of the rules of this server are that messages should be in English, since moderators cannot moderate in other languages.

[shy hound]

ah yatsi

[uncut zenith]

Jinx

[shy hound]

would John smith be technically useles in a battle bc he's just basic common guy?,wasn't built for this and just a guy try to skip the process of his goal

[humble cairn]

"Eddy Murphy, tapping his temple, grinning."

[fossil summit]

That's alright, in D&D, how good you are at hitting people with your weapons is based entirely on hiq strong you are

[shy hound]

now i have an idea for his flaws,he's selfish and impatient of his goals he want it quick and onyl cares if it benefits him

[fossil summit]

Okay, so he's evil.

[shy hound]

that's why he's in a party bc he heard it gives you 10% more in come than an alone adventurer

[stuck shuttle]

So why would a party want to travel with John?

[orchid root]

Cansado tengo Que entregar todo mi tarea para terminar el trimestre para ir a graduation

[orchid root]

Oh mb

[stuck shuttle]

Also should probably move the convo to #character-discussion

[fossil summit]

How is going in a party and splitting the treasure give you more money than taking 100% of the profit by going alone?

[orchid root]

wdym

[stuck shuttle]

AM's conversation discussing their character idea

[orchid root]

Ah

[shy hound]

let's talk it in character discussion

[glossy otter]

So, how's everybody rocking today?

[orchid root]

tired,

[rich axle]

I’m doing pretty good

[orchid root]

I have to send in everything for all my classes of what I did for the semester to go into graduation

im so cooked.

[minor cargo]

I have one more workout to test and I'll be able to start finalizing the latest update to my D&D workout book. The goal is to finish it tonight and publish it right before the holidays. 🙌🏾
(still free of course)

[glossy otter]

Fair, though it'll be worth it

Wait, a dnd workout book?

[reef tundra]

I didn’t know you were making a book!

[orchid root]

Yeah problem this semester i havent been paying attention shit. Im not getting anything for graduation anyways.

[glossy otter]

Me neither though I wouldn't be against trying it out

[orchid root]

IVE just been listening to Metallica all semester

[minor cargo]

Yeah, it's already published.

Manual of Gainful Exercise on DMs Guild. You'll see it's listed as just under 4 dollars, but there are unlimited coupon codes on the page - so you can get it 50%, 90%, and 100% off (free).

[orchid root]

im so cooked

[minor cargo]

I just want to publish an update to include Heroes of Faerun.

[orchid root]

cool

[glossy otter]

Ngl theres been times ove wanted to publish on DMs guild but I know there's a bit when it comes to costs and legal

[orchid root]

what are Asians represents?

[minor cargo]

It's actually not so bad, though it's very intimidating.

But for me, my entire book is done in Google Docs (so free). The art I of course paid for. And otherwise I just had to make sure some legal text was copy and pasted in.

[minor cargo]

Oh haha It's a podcast I'm a cohost on. We talk about Asian representation in pop culture media and the gaming space. Many, many years ago we did a read of the old AD&D Oriental Adventures and commented on it.

[orchid root]

so basically a dnd for Asians?

[glossy otter]

I remember a while ago seeing the style sheet for FR, a bit restrictive in a way but I get why

[orchid root]

I wish Eddie was here he would be the best dm

Peak dm

[minor cargo]

We do talk about D&D (how we write and play it) when you're part of the Asian diaspora, yeah (and our host Daniel Kwan is even a published WOTC freelance writer!). But the podcast doesn't have an "actual play" aspect anymore.

[orchid root]

oh cool

I can’t play dnd because it has magic

[minor cargo]

I did a small group project where we self-published something on DMs Guild. One of our team members focused just on layout - if that's an option for you.

For Manual of Gainful Exercise, I did the layout myself but I also asked a friend to "check my work" and give me some basic feedback like on fonts, titles, casings, etc.

[glossy otter]

Ah, I see. Interesting

[glossy otter]

Wait what

[orchid root]

Yea

[nocturne sorrel]

Before I ask my question, am I interrupting anything?

[glossy otter]

I mean its a forum so one never really can interrupt

[still plover]

Trandoshan? Neat.

[orchid root]

I can’t play dnd because it has magic and yayadiyq

[humble cairn]

Oh is it almost finished? Congrats!

[humble cairn]

Well you can still talk about D&D right?

[glossy otter]

Gotta love it when people are paranoid of a fictional subject (I mean just dnd magic)

[buoyant oar]

My DMsGuild project has entered year 4 of development. And I finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[fresh bloom]

So... The characters in the campaign I'm running are currently in a forest and stuff. And one of the characters was a secret agent for an organization within the Lords' Alliance. I'm thinking of having them do a small mission after the campaign ends, escorting a captured prisoner to the Lords' Alliance base in Baldur's Gate. But I'm kind of out of ideas for what to put along the way to make it a small adventure and stuff.

[delicate roost]

I am itching to play dnd right now. We had to cancel our past two weekly games due to sickness and shedualing issues and the one that would be this week is already cancled due to events at the hosts house. going 3 weeks of no dnd makes me sad

[minor cargo]

It's generally fine, but the reason it's not part of the core rules (IMO) is because it can really slow the game down. Calculating all the reasons you might have advantage and then all the disadvantage and comparing them isn't always a clear thing.

(Back in 3.5E, a similar issue came up where you had to add up all of your situational bonuses/negatives - and it could get very tedious.)

[orchid root]

Yeah lol

[minor cargo]

Say more on this? Is this like a whole campaign or...? 👀

[humble cairn]

It'd more annoying and bookkeeping. Bad for gameplay, imo.

[still plover]

What's on your mind?

[buoyant oar]

A satellite style map of the entire planet of the forgotten realms. With a guide book that takes the Heroes of Faerûn approach but for 200 subdivisions of the realms. Instead of the North for example it's, Frozenfar, Hartsvale, Sword Coast North, Savage Frontier, and the High Forest.

With a 12k location index on the map. The text block alone is over 800 pages currently. And 205+ NPCs one from each region of the realms.

It also gives lore for the blank Continents of Osse, Arandron, Anchorome, and Katashaka. While consciously giving no room for cultural appropriation.

[still plover]

A lunatic project. I applaud you!

[buoyant oar]

Each NPC has VTT token and Full body art. As each section contains an excerpt of a conversation with them as the book is presented as an in world Odyssey of the Realms.

[bronze wave]

Is there a fire version of shadow blade? Or one that does fire dmg

[humble cairn]

Flame blade, but ... it doesn't count as a weapon, it is a weapon shaped magical effect.

[buoyant oar]

Once the whole thing is out the book will come with a commercial license for other creators to use the maps.

[nocturne sorrel]

So im new to D&D, so this might be a dumb question, so feel free to call me an idiot 🤪

What's the difference between a wizard and a warlock, is it not the same thing? And does a cleric fall under magic user?

[ancient marsh]

Good Morning

Lot of awesome stuff going on here makes me excited to get back into D&D myself

[shy stirrup]

All three are casters, but derive their power from different sources - and use different (and/or overlapping) spell lists, and there are some other mechanical differences and each have unique abilities, like the Cleric's Turn Undead

[still plover]

Cleric, yes.

Warlocks get their magical secrets from a patron as opposed to the self-directed study of wizards. In game terms this gives them big bangs with faster refresh, but wizards have more scope and short-term stamina for casting.

[knotty basin]

Wizards get their magic through study and kinda the “basic” magic users. Warlocks make deals with demons or other beings, and are more customizable

[rich axle]

I just want to say there is no such thing as a dumb question if you don’t know the answer and I want to say welcome to playing dnd and I hope you have an amazing experience with it

[knotty basin]

Sorcerers get options to enhance their spells because it’s their innate magic ability

[nocturne sorrel]

Is there a difference between classes and roles?

[knotty basin]

I don’t think a role is a term in the game

[shy stirrup]

Good question, yes: multiple classes can fill different roles

[hollow stone]

classes are in the game, roles aren't a thing you are, but a purpose you serve

[nocturne sorrel]

Ah

[hollow stone]

like a cleric's class is a cleric and their role is medic and whatever else clerics are supposed to do

[nocturne sorrel]

Ooooh

[knotty basin]

Clerics have a lot of healing and protection options, druids shapeshift into animals, bards do songs and mind control

[hollow stone]

roles are an invention by the players to comprehend mechanics, classes are the mechanics

[knotty basin]

Speaking of roles, I really like swashbuckler rogue’s pananche feature

[humble cairn]

These aren't official game terms, but if you look at the mechanics there are four general kind of roles that players can fulfill: Damage, Utility, Support, and Control.

No class is solely one of those, they usually do two or more of them.

And depending on your build and subclass you can make your character do more and different roles.

[shy stirrup]

To use a car analogy, you want a commuter car, an A-B grocery getter - there are many cars in the market that could serve this purpose

[nocturne sorrel]

Can you have more then one role?

[humble cairn]

Genrally you will have more than one role.

[hollow stone]

yes

[shy stirrup]

Yes, some builds/classes etc can serve multiple roles

[hollow stone]

generally most people should be able to do more than one thing

[humble cairn]

Usually no build will only be one role.

And again, "roles" are not an official game term.

Just something the community uses to help build team tactics.

[nocturne sorrel]

What am I thinking of then 🤔 what game has roles?

[hollow stone]

yea role is a substance smuggled over from Overwatch and other Hero Shooters

[nocturne sorrel]

Ah

[delicate roost]

maybe 4th edition? that system kind of had more role oriented stuff for characters baked in

[humble cairn]

Damage = Fairly self explanatory, it's a combat role that makes enemies dead
Utility = Out of combat solutions to problems, often using Skills
Support = Enhancing ally action economy
Control = Hindering enemy action economy

[shy stirrup]

Possibly video games based on D&D, however loosely, like the "Trinity" - tank, heals DPS, D&D does not have such hard lines between roles, and there are more of them

[buoyant oar]

Oh I forgot to mention the book will feature 600 adventure hooks. About a paragraph long about specific locations on the map.

[nocturne sorrel]

I always wanted to play as a big game hunter in D&D, with a trophy room filled with many great beasts......although some of his trophies pose a.....moral conundrum

[still plover]

Could be a ranger.

[knotty basin]

Ranger works for that

[hollow stone]

yea Rangers are very hunting coded, they even have a subclass called Hunter

they're like Fighters but with spells

[nocturne sorrel]

Say I was to play as a warlock, since it's a RPG, can I come up with my own deity or do I have to pick one from the books?

BTW sorry if this question are a little annoying 😑

[hollow stone]

either one works, really

[delicate roost]

Warlock's don't technically use a god, but rather a patron which can be any powerful being that granted them power

[still plover]

Your DM is the best one to advise you there (but you have great freedom to describe the particulars of your patron).

[hollow stone]

this too, Patrons and Gods are different

[still plover]

Last servitor of a forgotten god, that can be fun.

[hollow stone]

a Patron can be a God because Patron is really just a word that refers to whatever deity bestows you with its power

[still plover]

Also true, to a degree.

[delicate roost]

The warlock/bard i play, his patron is an archfey for example. So i wrote his patron as a powerful faerie creature that gave him power and in return, he has to play music at festivals in they feywilds upon request constantly.

[hollow stone]

oo this is a good describe it - the title of Patron is bestowed as a result, it is granted because of something you've done, not what you are, like how the title of "pet" is bestowed upon an animal that has been domesticated, whereas the title of dog is bestowed because of what a dog is

[nocturne sorrel]

I thought patrons and Gods were the samething

[hollow stone]

no

[delicate roost]

a god can be a patron but a patron does not have to be a god ( a god as defined as a divine entity)

[still plover]

Typically warlocks' patrons are considered "lesser than" the regular gods - mostly just to keep them separate from the clerics.

[nocturne sorrel]

Like a demon?

[hollow stone]

also because warlocks are generally viewed as a more secretive kind of magic than clerics

[mighty quartz]

yeah a demon could work

[glossy otter]

not necessarily, but gods can be patrons to warlocks. One off the top of my head is Asmodeus for Fiendlocks

[delicate roost]

Yes, Warlocks are more seen as having made a deal with a powerful being to gain powers they would not normally have.

[hollow stone]

yea, Demons, Devils, Celestials, Archfey, Great Old Ones, etc.

[glossy otter]

essentially anything with capabilities to bestow magic

[still plover]

And not even that. All the patron has to do is point you in the right direction.

[hollow stone]

Paladins have Great Gods, Warlocks have Lesser Gods (if gods at all)

[glossy otter]

fair I suppose

I mean paladins can still be guided by deities and dark entities

they're based on willpower

[still plover]

Warlocks can have mainstream gods, it's just uncommon.

[nocturne sorrel]

Is a warlock and their patron similar to a deal with a demon trope?

[glossy otter]

it can be yes

[still plover]

That's the classic one. Devils, typically.

[glossy otter]

devils i'd argue are the closest to faustian bargains as Mr Smith put it

demons it's a 50/50 they uphold their bargain

[shy stirrup]

The concept has been much diluted over the years - or expanded, depending on your POV - but classically, the Warlock has a Faustian bargain with a demon or devil; the warlock could either be amoral and in search of greater power no matter the cost, or, like the character Wyll in Baldur's Gate 3, a good guy who makes a deal with devils; a personal sacrifice for a greater good

[still plover]

Devils may play by their own rules but at least they have them. Demons, not so much.

[shy stirrup]

But at its core it's the notion of the Deal with the Devil, aka the Faustian Bargain:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_with_the_Devil

I will give you power but....I want something in return

Which can make for interesting and dramatic situations

[glossy otter]

then there's yugoloths, finicky contract makers

[nocturne sorrel]

I remember a campaign I watched once, the Warlock wanted to be free from his deal, and by the end, he was free of the deal, but the demon was still there. he asked the demon why he was still there? All The demon said was "because ride or dies don't quit good buddy"

[humble cairn]

I made an Archfey Warlock who won his powers from an Archfey fair and square in a card game.

[low ice]

Wordle today 🙂

[humble cairn]

The Archfey had no continued hold nor leverage over the Warlock, but it did have a vested interest in him.

[crimson gulch]

The climax of my exandria campaign had the rogue who accidentally stole power from asmodeus killed them so in the epilogue I narrated them as having lost their warlock powers

[pseudo yarrow]

Hello people

[humble cairn]

No spoilers please.

[nocturne sorrel]

Hellur

[low ice]

Yeah I tried to avoid that

[pseudo yarrow]

Ik its a lot to ask but can any body teach me DnD like idk anything but im extremely intrested

[glossy otter]

My first warlock was a faustian bargain type situation where he wanted revenge and the patron gladly offered the tools. The second time was just a victim in a really bad circumstance where she was infected by a creature that killed her caravan, making her a parasite warlock

[humble cairn]

Check out #learn-to-play and then maybe the free basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024

[snow agate]

i like the peaceful warlock bargain where you're just employed

[tough dew]

i just joined a few posts that said they are new player friendly and they helped me out

[nocturne sorrel]

I'm still learning the ropes myself, bud

[still plover]

One of my warlocks got frostbite of the lungs for bothering her patron too much.

[pseudo yarrow]

Well it is alot

Like A lot

[tough dew]

do u have any specific questions ? @pseudo yarrow

[pseudo yarrow]

I mean i dont know the basics or how to even get started in the first place

[woven flint]

Word of advice for ye new players:
No D&D is better than bad D&D, if you don't vibe with a group in one way or another or something is very off-putting.. DON'T force yourself to stay in that situation, you can always find a new game :p

[tough dew]

do u watch any youtube videos like ccr or something that could help with learning

[pseudo yarrow]

Thank you for that

[pseudo yarrow]

Nope like i jus started but can u dm me sum if u got any suggestions ?

[still plover]

Check out #dnd-newcomers and to get started, plenty there.

[pseudo yarrow]

Will do and thank ya

[nocturne sorrel]

I had this goblin drawn out, Crut, he would describe himself as, an amateur thief, a full-time drifter, and a practicing alcoholic

[woven flint]

Sounds like a horrid little shit.

If only we had room in our Waterdeep party, he'd fit in with that lot!

Wouldn't be surprised if our waterdeep group gets either arrested or murdered by the Xanathars guild lmao

[nocturne sorrel]

Lol

Oh, and a part-time Arsonist

[woven flint]

I'm the Cleric in that group, I hold no moral compass over their heads, because it's not my buisness, but I try to be morally obliged when I can be assed to do so

Said cleric is also a tortle :>

[limber trail]

It alr happened, Toby was arrested during downtime.

[woven flint]

Yeah, but not long term.

[limber trail]

yeah I got him out

[woven flint]

Exactly!
It all worked out

[limber trail]

I'm lucky like that

[nocturne sorrel]

"A year ago a mountain witch cursed me with soberity, I NEVER BEEN SO MURDEROUS!!!"

-Crut

[woven flint]

Can't wait to explain to authorities that I only associate with you two through house ownership

[limber trail]

We're roommates. Oh my god, we're roommates.

[woven flint]

Sadly, I'm stuck with Hokrun and Toby!

[limber trail]

Hey

you're stuck with ahan and imos too

[woven flint]

Ahan and Emios don't bug me as much smh

[nocturne sorrel]

Would my goblin character fall under rouge?

[limber trail]

Hokrun is a very reasonable man

[limber trail]

I'd probably say based purely off stereotypes yes, but It could be any class tbh, maybe except paladin or cleric.

[woven flint]

Hokrun and Toby would actually be the type of people Artanza would help educate if they gave him the time, he was a librarian for a reason lol

[limber trail]

Maybe one day once I get tired of playing hokrun so abbrasively

[woven flint]

(Never)

[nocturne sorrel]

Crut is many things, a cleric he is NOT

[woven flint]

You COULD be a Cleric
A Trickery Cleric

[limber trail]

wait tokii what did you do for your downtime?

[woven flint]

Just be a Charlatan and use your illusions to trick people and steal stuff and be like "oh yeah, praise be, ect ect.. I wonder how much that ladies bracelet would sell for.."

[bronze wave]

How long does it last?

[woven flint]

Artanza got to work converting his room, he's making plans to help restore the bar place of the manor to its former glory... so we can also potentially have an income, lmao

[limber trail]

From memory it lasts for a minute

[humble cairn]

Here are the details: https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2618899-flame-blade

[limber trail]

I'll put some money towards that. I earned an atrocious amount pit fighting.

[celest dove]

is dnd beyond updated yet with the new handbood for classes etc?

[limber trail]

I rolled my pit fighting checks and amongst the 9 I rolled, I didn't roll below a 17, all of them rolling flat. Something like 4 nat 20s as a part of it

[hollow stone]

it sounds like they're praying in latin but they're actually praying "hey (cleric's god's name) how much could i get for that lady's bracelet?"

[woven flint]

If anythings gonna form any friendships in our party, is majority of our mutual love for alcohol

[nocturne sorrel]

When Crut gets arrested he always has 2 tricks up his sleeve

Plan A: kicked down the cell door and beat the crap out over every gaurd he can find like the hot mess goblin degenerate that he is.

Plan B: bribery

[hollow stone]

"you're only an alcoholic when you start drinking alone"

[woven flint]

Think about how awesome the Bars gonna be eventually, Hokrun and Toby could be bodyguards, Ahan could be a bartender, Emios could be a performer or whatever (or vice-versa for those two) and Artanza could do the management and paperwork and such

[limber trail]

Hokrun is the personality hire

[woven flint]

We'll turn it into an establishment yet 🧐

[wheat mirage]

Hi im new here

[woven flint]

Ehhh, more like the hire through association

[limber trail]

Oh just so we’re clear

Volo is immediately on the ban list

[umbral girder]

Greetings!

[wheat mirage]

Thanks

[glossy otter]

i just got back, why is volo on the ban list?

[hollow stone]

who is volo and why are we killing them?

[spring light]

a bard who makes stuff up

[bronze wave]

What’s the diff between an action and a magic action?

[humble cairn]

Action is an umbrella term for a bunch of different things you can do during your turn. Magic is one type of Action.

Actions you can do during your turn: Attack, Magic, Ready, Help, Dodge, etc

[nocturne sorrel]

I always like the idea of a bard who had to become a bard, because a curse was put oh him, and now he had to sing EVERYTHING he said

[humble cairn]

Fun idea, exhausting and annoying to actually do. I've done it.

[delicate roost]

I am cursed to do interpretive dance to explain myself!

[limber trail]

Sounds like a fun concept for a one shot but I would hesitate doing it for much longer

My stance with all things voices: if they aren’t very easy to do, you’re gonna get tired

[wheat mirage]

Uhh this is a bit confusing for me i just read the books

[nocturne sorrel]

Maybe cursed to talk in ryhme?

[knotty basin]

Same issue

[nocturne sorrel]

Yeah now that I think about it

[shy stirrup]

You will find it difficult with time
To always talk in rhyme

[limber trail]

Similarly, rhymes are hard to think of. For a longer campaign you might need hundreds or thousands of rhymes

[humble cairn]

You'll end up thinking about rhymes so long that you don't actually end up speaking.

[limber trail]

It kinda undercuts your ability to speak & RP as a character

[nocturne sorrel]

I'll stick with my degenerate, alcoholic goblin then

[humble cairn]

I'm a vocalist and a lifelong choir member, also was a Disney kid. When I took on the curse of singing everything it was actually pretty fun, but you better be prepared (HA!) and warm up your voice ahead of gaming.

[delicate roost]

Speaking of undercutting ability to speak. Kenku. I know they cannot talk unless its words or things they have heard before, but could they just carry a notebook and write everything?

[humble cairn]

They don't have that anymore, it was way too annoying.

[shy stirrup]

You may wish to ask in #dnd-newcomers
But what is confusing to you?

[limber trail]

Plus it’s a difficult thing to adhere to because realistically they can remake any individual words and string a sentence from them cut together

Like on a purely practical / realistic level

[delicate roost]

Truth. I always felt that well, if they just hung out in a tavern for an hour, they would have quite a repitore to speak already

[nocturne sorrel]

Is it just me
Or are most bard charismatic twits with overactive libido?

[glossy otter]

I mean for me that's just a stereotypical joke of them, most that I've seen are music loving folk with a small amount of trauma

[nocturne sorrel]

Ah, like all musicians

[knotty basin]

I’ve never seen that actually happen

It just seems like a bad joke

[pseudo hinge]

sounds like i should play bard... Does a large amount of trauma work?

[glossy otter]

I mean at the right tables yeah lol

[pseudo hinge]

lol

[nocturne sorrel]

I remember a video
A great dragon appeared before the party, and smiled at one of them and said, "Hello lover" and everyone's eyes immediately went to the bard, " what are you looking at me for!!??" And another person spoke "actually my ex is referring to me" and everyones eyes fell on the cleric

Never laughed so hard in my life

[glossy otter]

What a twist

Reminds me of the time a party sent the bard to negotiate with the dragon

[fossil summit]

Are most barbarians stupid? Are most wizards old? Are most rogues edgy? (Don't answer the last one)

[nocturne sorrel]

HA

[glossy otter]

Are all paladins self righteous

[nocturne sorrel]

Are all elves egotistical?

[fossil summit]

Truth is, you can flavor your character in any way you want. I have a magical girl warlock.

[glossy otter]

Theres a stereotype for almost every class

[fossil summit]

I think the term is "superior"

[fossil summit]

Fighters all hate magic, it is known.

[delicate roost]

Not always. The bard im playing is a young eladrin elf who is more into busking in the streets, playing at taverns and listening in on conversations to gain intel. he has never once tried to seduce anything. rather he relies on smooth talking and etiquette to get what he wants.

[glossy otter]

For some reason though, bards usually are the one I go after first for trauma. Not prioritizing them but its a funny coincidence

[fossil summit]

Truth is that most class stereotypes are just reductions of the class to a simplistic degree.

The bard isn't defined by their charisma, they're defined by how they're a source of inspiration to others.

That's the one thing they can do that no one else can.

[nocturne sorrel]

Any ideas how i can flesh out my goblin character better?

[delicate roost]

What class are you going with for your goblin?

[fossil summit]

#character-discussion but yeah

[pine verge]

Sorry to butt into your conversation but I love this idea for a bard, my only question though is wouldn't smooth talking be considered a form of seduction

[minor cargo]

Eldritch knights constantly having internal monologues and crises.

[glossy otter]

Not really, just means you're good at saying the right things to appeal to people

[delicate roost]

I suppose so but Locke doesnt flirt or try to bed anyone. He just talks to people in the way he knows they want to be spoken to.

[knotty basin]

Same

[pine verge]

I see

[fossil summit]

"I know you have been slighted in the past, but if you look at me and my friends, do you truly see anyone that would do that?"

And the other person replies.

"Are you... coming onto me?"

[nocturne sorrel]

Who wants to here about a funny animatic i watched where during a tavern brawl, a barred tried picking the fight with an orc, and immediately got his shit rocked

[delicate roost]

"Oh of course mightly captian of the gaurd. We do profusely appologize for distrupting this event. We are but humble travelers and did not know, could you please point us in teh right direction with you're wealth of knolwedge?"

[glossy otter]

I haven't played bards as much but when I do, I either play them as a free spirit or just mildly chaotic

[delicate roost]

If you've seen the dnd movie, the main character is a great example of a bard that doesnt use his libido to accomplish his goals. he uses wit and intelegence

[glossy otter]

even though is extremely debated if he is even a bard

[pine verge]

My crew unfortunately wants to seduce everything🙄 I literally had to look up a guide to dnd bedroom 5e. Great guide btw! Theres so much stuff I can use to debuff my players for making me flirt with them

[cobalt owl]

I think I hit one of my best sessions just now

[glossy otter]

Oh?

[cobalt owl]

Or at least, best for a low sleep and half an outline

Which is pretty standard

It was also an experiment and I hit what I wanted to so I'm not gonna be sad about hitting exactly what I wanted lol

[delicate roost]

You dont have to always have characters interested in the players. I dont care if they roll a nat 20 to seduce. If the npc is not interested in teh character in that way then they wont be. You can have the npc react by being amused by them or charmed in the way of "well thank you for the complient, that was very nice of you" still responding favorably. Not everything has to end in a fade to black

[cobalt owl]

Charisma checks aren't free

[delicate roost]

if your players insist on bedding everything, start giving them levels of exhaustion for not sleeping properly

[glossy otter]

I remember I made an npc a lesbian just to hard counter the group XD

[pine verge]

No I know and I dont always but I do enjoy when my players have romances in the campaign. 1 it makes my bbeg that much more evil and 2 I find it gets them to roleplay with eachother more too

[cobalt owl]

I just don't engage in romance unless its player led

[minor cargo]

Honestly, most games should include more lesbian NPCs. Not necessarily for the reasons you mentioned, just because lesbians are neat.

[cobalt owl]

Lesbians are cool

[pine verge]

Oh yea I know that guide told me how to break it all down and how to really mess with them😈 Im gonna be evil

[cobalt owl]

We love yuri in DND

[glossy otter]

Eh, sexualities in my campaign were never vital. Not that it doesn't exist, just not a large focus other than the characters might meet a spouse to an npc

[fossil summit]

Just remember, if an npc doesnt want to sleep with the character, no amount of charisma checks are gonna help.

[cobalt owl]

I also just don't bring it up

[knotty basin]

Charisma checks aren’t magic

[pine verge]

Do you guys think its better to predetermine preferences for your npc's or just roll them if the situation comes up and add it to their sheet?

[cobalt owl]

If you wanna romance you lead it, and then I'll think about whether it makes sense

[knotty basin]

What kind of preferences

[glossy otter]

Eh, I just think whatever I feel would work for em

[cobalt owl]

Unironically I just make everyone aroace pan bi or whatever I think works best

[pine verge]

Ive had plenty of fun having characters they really like turn them down even after a really high charisma roll

[delicate roost]

You know what, i realized my bard did 'kind' of flirt with an NPC but that was purely to gain a boon from her. Was a vampire lord lady and when she admited she missed eating sugary treats he offered to eat a bunch of cupcakes and let her have some of his blood if she would do a favor for him. i dont know if that counts

[cobalt owl]

Because if a player really wants romance i'm not gonna not give it

I'm just never going to start it let alone force it

[pine verge]

I mean I would def feel seduced by this but Idk how everyone else feels🤣

[glossy otter]

My strixhaven campaign i have npc's who can be romanced, but they have to have a heart emoji by their name

[minor cargo]

I think the answer to this should be informed by the group itself.

For one of my home games, it's basically one giant dating sim. So if there's an NPC a player wants to get closer to, regardless of what I had planned, there's a really high chance I'll say it's possible - and then start building challenges/situations around that.

In other games, if romance and attraction aren't going to be part of the story and then we find ourselves in this situation, that's probably a good time to hit the pause button (when possible) and see if the goals have changed. ✌️

[pine verge]

Knowing my crew Ill just write it in the npc backstories🤣

My best friend literally had me homebrew her a succubus character. Which was awesome but like come on

[delicate roost]

I do not enjoy doing romance stuff my self with my characters. I tend to write characters that either are incapable of it (too young/naive or innocent to understand, too involved in a life goal to care, ect...)

[fiery nimbus]

Welp i refined my character to go from having 9 AC to having 17 AC... now i kind of want to go back because it will be funnier this way

[pine verge]

Nothing wrong with that! Even a dm can have limits on what they're willing to do!

[glossy otter]

Though it does remind me of the jokes we kept making in which one of our parties paladins didn't have an expressed sexuality but they kept getting into lesbian esk moments with other PC's XD

[delicate roost]

Im working on a kenku wizard whos love is fire. and also fire. Former minion to a evil wizard who was taken in as the obligitory pet minion to a party of heroes for a while. This character is gonna have no desires other than 'can i burn it?"

[pine verge]

Kenku are lowkey slept on! I have one as a shopkeep! Good luck stealing from him😈

[delicate roost]

She's so gonna latch onto one of the party members and call them Boss and be a great little yes man and hype man 😄

[pine verge]

That made me think of beau from the mighty nein🤣

[fiery nimbus]

Reminds me of one of the Digimon games where they defaulted to male gender when writing so when you pick female character, game puts L into LGBTQ+

[fiery nimbus]

are they sleept on, i guess you can put their feathers into a pillow

[pine verge]

I feel like owlin feathers would be better

[delicate roost]

Torn on making my wizard an envoker for the boost to cantrip fire stuff, or go wand lore cause you know, raven + stick

[woven flint]

One of my next characters is gonna be a Kenku, mayhaps

[woven flint]

My Owlin Glamour Bard would agree, Owlin are simply the best birds

[fiery nimbus]

you can always go for conjurer for those sweet elemental summons boosts

[pine verge]

Becky does love sticks

[woven flint]

Kenku Moon Druid named "Dog"
He barks, one hell of a little party animal though.. 🤔

He got that DOG in him

[pine verge]

My campaign lacks a lot of cities so animal type humanoids are very potent in this one I have tons of bird types because theyre great

[delicate roost]

her name is Cinder Snaps and her familiar is a raven who is her 'brother'

[fossil summit]

"I refined my character" and it's just putting armor on.

[woven flint]

My Celestial Warlock freaked out my friends imp familiar last night, he instantly knew it was only disguised as a crow and had put a dagger to its throat before being talked down by the party after he initially met them. (He's a replacement character for my Paladin that died)

[pine verge]

You gotta give her a scene where she recreates that one edit of mustang getting his revenge in FMA

[fiery nimbus]

nah, i had to change the starting class to a fighter because its a warlock with dex dump

[woven flint]

"When you've lived in Menzobaranzen your entire life, your nose grows keen to fiends in disguise."

[fossil summit]

Menzobarranzen mentioned

[knotty basin]

What do fiends smell like

[fossil summit]

Sulfur, probably.

[woven flint]

"Evil. And Shit."

[pine verge]

Brimstone

[delicate roost]

oppression and sulfer 😄

[woven flint]

Yup, my Celestial Warlock is a Drow lad from Menzo, he made a pact with a chosen of Mystra and was summoned to Sigil by the Wizards three

[fiery nimbus]

Depends on the type
Demons, Fiends or Yuggoloths

[woven flint]

He's very Anti-Fiend, but he's okay with the Pit Fiend that sells meat and the other who owns a magic shop in Sigil lmao

[delicate roost]

sniffs the air is it just me or does that bird smell like vegimite on toast.. i think its an imp

[pine verge]

I like to occaisionally throw my pact havers a curveball and have them make con saves to test their devotion to their chosen deity or specifically make them make choices that go against their deities wishes

[woven flint]

"Smells like corruption and high self-placed value. Definitely a pathetic little imp in disguise. "

I can't wait to drop the generational trauma of that lad regarding fiends on the party lmao

[hollow stone]

i've had a concept for a Celestial Warlock who wouldn't like Celestials, because their patron was banished from the Astral Plane for being a pernicious little worm

[fiery nimbus]

Nah he is just a flesh puppet controlled by Oblex, know the difference

[woven flint]

"My mother was gutted and eaten by a Fiend and my bastard father ran off with a succubus. Figured I'd do a little better for myself."

[still plover]

Is that something mentioned during Session Zero?

[fiery nimbus]

"So i married an incubus"

[woven flint]

"So I found a Deity that actually appreciates my existence. "

[fiery nimbus]

So you found a single Deity who gives a crap?

thats rare

[woven flint]

Well, someone who was Chosen by a Deity in her own life, that someone is deceased, but she's still his Patron

[delicate roost]

So ill play a warlock whose patron is a cat who is also the familiar pact of the chain. He demands treats, pets but also dont touch me

[pine verge]

Wouldn't that mean you constantly fail and succeed?

[woven flint]

Most of my Warlocks haven't had familiars, I feel most of them are burdened by their pact enough lol

[knotty basin]

Is this cat capable of granting you magic powers?

[hollow stone]

"pets but also don't touch me" 😭

[pine verge]

It is now

[woven flint]

If my Drow fella had a familiar it'd probably be a Skeleton because it doesn't have a mind enough to be a nuisance to him lol

[delicate roost]

Obviously it can grant powers. 😄

[gray mortar]

That's just a cat.

[fiery nimbus]

To be honest, Warlocks ranged from "We are buisness partners" though "I sold my soul" to "I steal internet from my patron and he didn't catch on yet"

[hollow stone]

yea it was in reference to a message about a cat patron lol

[gray mortar]

Oh, forgive, am used to the messages being linked

[delicate roost]

Forget to give kitty his nightly treats exactly when he wants them? you loose spell slot for the day out of spite 😄

[woven flint]

One of my past Warlocks was a Nothic/Cyclops fellow who had a Parasite in his brain who was his Patron, he often swapped between two voices, one of his own and the other of his Patron, he was slightly unhinged but he was a Merchant, his pact allows him to see the values of treasures but his Patron must live in his brain for him to do so, it was pretty neat, actually lol

[gray mortar]

You didn't feed me five minutes after I ate dinner? No food spells for you.

[hollow stone]

i know that, of the warlocks i've contemplated, their patron is usually very distant because the pact itself is all they actually need of their warlock

[pine verge]

Accidentally scratch too close to the tum tum. Youre magic is more likely to fail for 24 hours

[fiery nimbus]

My current warlock is simply a buisness partner to their patron, she crafts stuff for them they pay with power

perks of working for DAO

[delicate roost]

to recover your spell slots, you need to sit still for 8 hours and not move, allowing kitty to rest on your lap undisturbed

[gray mortar]

Do you ever think a retired adventerer would find a random person to be a Warlock patron to because they're bored?

[woven flint]

Probably!

[gray mortar]

Imagine just giving a random somebody fireball just to see what happens

[woven flint]

I could see my old Aarakocra Divine Soul Sorcerer being a Patron to someone if he wasn't deceased, he was level 20

[pine verge]

Lowkey I tried to make one of my players do this with their character from the campaign before but they wanted to be aphrodites cleric instead🙄

[gray mortar]

Aphrodite is the most beautiful patron ever, totally not saying that so she won't smite me.

[reef tundra]

Speak for yourself, Mephistopheles all the way baby

[hollow stone]

like one of them had to deal with a God In And Of Exile, who was using their soul to return to the material plane after being banished to a land beyond time but not space, where the god itself couldn't move as you need time to produce motion, but it was able to latch onto their soul while it was on the way to the afterlife, allowing a pact to be made where the Warlock and their body would use its power, their soul acting as a tether that would drag them out of the banished place

[pine verge]

Oh dont get me wrong they came up with a great backstory and played the character perfectly but I was still kinda bummed about the other one

[gray mortar]

How, dare you bring such into question?

On a side note, which lore is Mephistopheles from?

[gray mortar]

Eh, something to hold in storage for later.

[fiery nimbus]

There is an actual spell who's sole purpose is to inspire others to great deeds

[woven flint]

"Aphrodite? She's a 5/10 at the maximum, myself however?.. Hah, I have her beaten In spades, I'm the baddest [censored] to ever walk the feywilds~"
-Caspian Goldengale, THE Owlin Glamour Bard of all time

[reef tundra]

Forgotten realms Mephistopheles

[gray mortar]

Okay, thank you.

[fiery nimbus]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/188142-motivational-speech
Yes im talking about third level spell "Motivational Speech"

[reef tundra]

I saw his pic, I read his lore, I fell in love

[woven flint]

The best spell ever (trust)

[pine verge]

Why do that when fireball/eldritch blast exists?

[woven flint]

I don't think I have a favorite Deity in the Forgotten Realms yet, but it might be Bahamut because he's my flower child baby boy.

[gray mortar]

I should really read more on the forgotten realm deities. I want to make characrers more in line with dnd lore and naming conventions

[humble cairn]

My favorite Faerun deity is Eilistraee.

[pine verge]

Lowkey Ive never played a true to dnd lore campaign. I need to try it

[gray mortar]

My favorite is currently Umberlee, Tempus and Beshaba

[fiery nimbus]

Why do anything, i say because of the sheer boredom
Fireball is just a big AoE, BOOOOOOOOORING

[reef tundra]

Nah Mephistopheles is an archdevil

[uncut zenith]

I’m a big fan of Ilmater myself

[reef tundra]

My allegiance is to those below, not above

[fiery nimbus]

If i wanted to just kill enemies, i would be playing a fighter

[pine verge]

If you dont hit atleast half your team with the fireball was it really a fireball?

[woven flint]

Two of my favorite deities are from Theros
Iroas, the God of Victory
And
Mogis, the God of Slaughter
They're brothers, both War Gods, but one (Iroas) is a Centaur and the other (Mogis) is a Minotaur!
Lmao

[delicate roost]

the party just consantly smells like burning hair due to the fireballs

[fiery nimbus]

If i want to kill my team i just cast Summon Greater Demon and fail the save

[twilit summit]

Is it possible to turn DnD campaign into World of tanks with artificer-only party?

[woven flint]

They're also supposed to be twins

[pine verge]

Absolutely! Do it!!! And dont forget one of them has to be named tonky

[hollow stone]

i have a funny Fighter + Warlock combo where you Action Surge Action: Attack (2) with a Warhammer to push them back 20 feet with the Push mastery, then use Repelling Blast as a cantrip through your Standard Action to launch them back an additional 10 (30 ft total). it's a very silly combo lol

[burnt valley]

Also name the 2nd artificer, Cooler Tonky

[twilit summit]

Ok. Which tanks should we make? KV-2? IS-3? MAUS? AT15A?

[pine verge]

Maybe name one Short Tonky? You gotta have a short one

[fiery nimbus]

Where is the Crasher Feat?

[woven flint]

Crusher?

[pine verge]

I dont know any of them but the m1 abrams

[fiery nimbus]

Same thing

[woven flint]

Also, don't forget to be a Minotaur for their bonus action push after they attack, though that requires a save :p

[twilit summit]

Bro, I said "World of Tanks", not "War Thunder"

[humble cairn]

Could probably do this with Open Hand Monk alone?

[woven flint]

Also true

[twilit summit]

Btw congratulate me. I will be able to play my main character soon and comfortably for other people

[pine verge]

New feat homebrew "Crasher" when you constantly roll nat 1s so you flip the board to instantly kill any bbeg

[burnt valley]

True, lastly, we need to name one Tall Tonky

[hollow stone]

maybe, but i already had a plan for a Battlemaster Warlock that i wanted to throw that combo onto just for the comedy of launching someone back my full movement speed

[pine verge]

I dont play either of them! Thats literally the only tank I know of

[twilit summit]

Bro doesn't know Maus 💀💀💀

[woven flint]

Crasher.
If I roll a NAT 1 on an important save or ability check I can jump across the table at the DM

[hollow stone]

you could optimize the combo but i only need it for the one-off funny thing

[burnt valley]

make an attack roll against the DM, if you hit, you punch lmao

[hollow stone]

Crash Out feat lmao

[pine verge]

"Counter-crasher" for $5 any nat 1 can be instantly turned into a nat 20

[twilit summit]

Btw do you people feel Jolly already?

[inner silo]

Ngl i think I'm in one of the most perfect ranger campaigns

[woven flint]

The Dm trying to have a normal game

Me failing a save with a nat 1 and launching myself across the table at Mach speed to slaughter them:

[hollow stone]

make a roll, go dead silent, and then leap at the first person to ask what's wrong

[humble cairn]

What's a perfect Ranger campaign?

Lots of wilderness to explore and animals to tame?

[inner silo]

Because we actually don't have that much combat, not many social interactions, a lot of exploration and actual travel through the wilderness

[humble cairn]

Fun!

[inner silo]

Yup! Too bad we're all playing charisma casters except the fighter

[hollow stone]

Monster Hunter: Wilds

[pine verge]

Whats an ophidimancer?

[woven flint]

I love social interactions.
Except I always dump Charisma

[tacit bear]

Hello all I am new here and wanted some advice for the world I am creating

[humble cairn]

Serpent Mage, basically?

[woven flint]

Snake Wizard!!!

[burnt valley]

A crit would be using brass knuckles

[humble cairn]

You'll want to go to #dm-world-building

[inner silo]

I've gotta switch characters as soon as my character arc ends somewhat. I think me constantly rolling with advantage and on the wild magic table is getting on my dms nerves

[tacit bear]

Appreciate it

[humble cairn]

Ah ... not so fun, then?

[hollow stone]

part of the comedy that is my Battlemaster Warlock is gonna be having extremely high CHA and dumping Strength

[pine verge]

Best of luck💜

[woven flint]

Rules of Nature (From MGRR) plays as I propel myself across the table at the nearest person who asked if I was okay

[inner silo]

If not for tides of chaos i don't think we'd even explore that much with our stats

[pine verge]

Oh duhhh sorry Im smoov brained

[woven flint]

Schmoov

[humble cairn]

Nope, none of that negative self talk!

[burnt valley]

AC check irl 🔥🔥

[inner silo]

Ngl using charisma for sword fighting must be the funnies thing if you try to rationalise it

[woven flint]

Art thou excited for Rogues return to Titanic Upheaval?

[pine verge]

Thing got less rinkles than a freshly plastered wall

[burnt valley]

That makes sense, you're going full caster after 3 Battlemaster?

[inner silo]

Tbh if i played my character as if they were a real person i think they'd quit adventuring by now

[woven flint]

"That's quitter mentality! Now, help me beat up this Tarrasque!"

[hollow stone]

nah i'm going 5-5 Celestial Warlock Battlemaster Fighter

[delicate roost]

I regret multiclassing on my bard/warlock. I shoulda went straight bard. I've always found multiclassing holds me back in way of characters

[inner silo]

That's kind of what I'm telling myself. But actually, considering they had a building fall on them, a ghost cry on them which caused them to nearly die, a dragon literally kill them after which they came back as a halfling and now have to go fight spider riding dwarves while having arachnophobia

[burnt valley]

oh nice

[inner silo]

This all in less then a week of adventuring

And their first ever week of adventuring

[woven flint]

Sounds like an issue of skill

Me, personally? I'd punch the ghost, eat the dwarves to assert dominance and mate with the spiders to become the king of Australia! /joking

[pine verge]

Take a level in wizard too

Get the free access to a spell book

[inner silo]

I tried punching the ghost and i think i even hit it, but then it cried, i failed a single save, my hp automatically became 0 and i got 1 level of exhaustion at the start of the day essentially

[delicate roost]

I now am imaginging a halfling with a strong australian accent being like "awe, its just'a little spider, nuthin to worry about"

[woven flint]

Should've punched it HARDER

[inner silo]

As for your ideas of dealing with dwarves and spiders, I'll just stay 120ft away and casting sorcerers burst because there's no way I'm walking any closer to those 8 legged demons

[inner silo]

Give me some strength points and i would have

[woven flint]

I can't give you my strength, it'd be too overwhelming for you

[delicate roost]

Sounds like this character needs the Ruined background. Just cursed with terrible luck

[knotty basin]

Is it just me, or does the charger feat seem really strong on rogues? Specifically swashbucklers

[burnt valley]

How do you do that if the spiders are gargantuan size

[woven flint]

Watch me.

[burnt valley]

Have you tried using Royal Guard

[woven flint]

Devil may cry reference

[fiery nimbus]

So, what are your favorite low rarity magic items?

[burnt valley]

the fridge

[fiery nimbus]

the fridge?

[burnt valley]

the one that allows you to preserve food longer

[fiery nimbus]

oh... why is it so relevant?

as far as im aware you can just use rations

[burnt valley]

Chest of Preserving (finally found the name)

Cuz you could store multiple hearts of ice trolls and save them for until when you need them

As opposed to having a 24 hour timer

[fiery nimbus]

how often do you hunt trolls in your game

[regal fiber]

Hey I’m thinking of running a spores druid, but I read everywhere that going a melee type build is bad for combat? Is this correct?

[burnt valley]

Sometimes (it does come in handy tho)

[fiery nimbus]

no

[halcyon forum]

druids dont really have the tools to be super impactful in melee

except Moon druid I guess

[karmic mason]

For anyone who witnessed my first crash out over the problem player in my game, I have bad news.

They never stopped. I had to leave before we even got a real session 0

[fiery nimbus]

they do have quite the durability and some melee cantrips on top of huge area control spells

[pine verge]

Guess its time to get to a new table🤷🏻‍♀️🥹

[valid geyser]

yeah the only issue with spores druid is the action to get your good stuff, as well a reaction costs you might want for other stuff

[karmic mason]

Yeah.

Every time I've tried to play DnD, it's always been stopped.

[regal fiber]

Isnt it like action attack bonus action flame sphere and react for halo?

[halcyon forum]

its just that the action economy is bad and number of attacks is too low. and those control spells are easier to place from far away

[valid geyser]

i mean symbiotic entity costs an action to activate and is the only way to make halo a decent use of reaction, and give you the best temp HP in the game. It's just the action cost of that usually plus shillelagh takes your while turn whereas a moon druid can bonus action shape into a bear and start knocking heads

[karmic mason]

First time was a lack of people and supplies, second was scheduling issues, and this time was the "seduction only" bard stereotype.

[shy stirrup]

Don't give up
Good tables exist

[valid geyser]

and ill say it is ten minutes, which is in the weird place where it has the ability to be precast but not as easy to do so compared to stuff like hour long things

[karmic mason]

At this point, I doubt it.

[shy stirrup]

Don't blame you for doubting,
But they do 🙂

[valid geyser]

i played a spores druid for like ten levels, and i think i mostly just used the spells the sub granted you

[marble lion]

if you quit before session 0, how do you know theyd play the bard like that

[karmic mason]

Our DM never showed up and told us to just make characters

[marble lion]

oh so it wasnt because of the bard stereotype player but because the DM is neglecting

[karmic mason]

It was the bard.

They made their character to only seduce everyone. Including party members.

[high vine]

How would you guys describe an old ship creaking as it sails through rough weather?

I'm stuck on "the ship creaks like old man's joints." Or "the ship creaks and moans like a sick dog"

[knotty basin]

Rickety

[still plover]

Got any druids in the party? Animal lovers? If not, run with the first.

[valid geyser]

would the perspective be from inside the ship? I could imagine using other senses would be helpful

[shy stirrup]

Add some leaks

[high vine]

Yeha would be while on the ship's bow as they approach an island with rough tide

[valid geyser]

some smells might be interesting. I don't really know how boats smell but i imagine not pleasant

but thats prob more on the lower decks

[knotty basin]

Rotting wood?

Old, damp carpet?

[undone zinc]

Hey! Im new to the community and wondered if yall have any tips

[astral vale]

YALL I DM IN THREE HOURS 💪🏽💪🏽 i have a HUGE question what are DMS rolling for NPCS and how do you get the stats!

[harsh hinge]

I don't give NPCs stats that often. When I do, I just reskin something from the monsters: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creature-stat-blocks

[marble lion]

just give it the stats you want it to have

why roll? give it the stats you believe make for the most fun NPC to meet as a player

[shy stirrup]

NPCs don't need stats unless you expect them to be involved in combat
Otherwise, as razorwing says grab an entry from the Monster Manual, and don't forget you can always reskin - take a Bandit or Town Guard and make it something else.

With experience, you can devise your own monsters/NPCs.

[marble lion]

youre the dm. you build their experience. why leave it to chance?

[astral vale]

Sick thank you everyone!

[slim snow]

Hi I don’t expect anyone to say yes but I am new to DnD and I am wondering if any1 can teach my how to play

[harsh hinge]

Yep, one-on-one teaching isn't likely here, but #learn-to-play and the pinned resources in #dnd-newcomers should get you going!

[merry onyx]

Good Evening Guys!

How's your day going today?

[runic pilot]

Is it not possible to have both the pride role and a class role?

[harsh hinge]

Just one, I think.

[runic pilot]

I see. Thank you!

[merry onyx]

Yoo man
I hope you are doing well.

[runic pilot]

Thank you! You as well.

[merry onyx]

Ohh that's amazing friend
What are you doing today?

[runic pilot]

Working all day. You?

[merry onyx]

Alright
Same thing I'm also working

[runic pilot]

Where do you work if you don’t mind me asking? Mine has DnD stuff in it but I wanna make sure we aren’t gonna be talking in the incorrect channel haha

[merry onyx]

I'm making some digital stuff and that's my work friend

[stray atlas]

been thinking

if a sorcerer becomes a mind flayer would they retain any magical abilities from their bloodline?

[merry onyx]

I don't know lol

[runic pilot]

Oooh, probably yeah

[stray atlas]

then again

would the flayer even use them? from what I understand they typically dislike normal forms of magic

[runic pilot]

But they’d be outcast, right? Cause mind flayers look down on arcane over psionic?

[stray atlas]

wonder if they'd have better psionic capabilities though

[runic pilot]

Cause arcane mind flayers exist in canon I’m pretty sure. I wonder if the psionic and arcane would clash too much and they’d only be able to pick one or the other?

[stray atlas]

I'm not sure how magic and psionics are related

I feel like they have some overlap

[atomic kayak]

psionics are a form of magic

[stray atlas]

e.g. the telekinesis spell

[atomic kayak]

same as arcane or primal magic are forms of magic

[runic pilot]

All psionics are magic but not all magic is psionics type of thing?

[stray atlas]

yes

[runic pilot]

That makes sense, especially with the new psion class thing

[knotty basin]

Humans are underrated

[stray atlas]

I mean like arcane

[runic pilot]

Interesting opinion. Explain.

[knotty basin]

They’re so versatile for roleplaying. Also the ability score increase is nice

I’m talking about the 2014 ones. 2024 is good too, though

[runic pilot]

Do you think other species are less versatile?

[stray atlas]

personally I think that part of the issue is how some races are portrayed

[knotty basin]

Yeah, it takes a lot more work to explain an orc wizard, for example. Or elf barbarian

[old sluice]

All species are versatile role-playing wise. Because species can have as big or as low an impact on role-playing as you want

[knotty pasture]

Other races usually have their own cultures that fit towards a certain narrative

[knotty basin]

And humans don’t

[stray atlas]

e.g. githyanki are much more interesting when they're not brainwashed by vlaakith

or hell

after they've simply spent enough not in a creche or in battle

[old sluice]

Here is me explaining a human wizard: I apprenticed under a master.
Here is me explaining an orc wizard: I apprenticed under a master.
Here is me explaining a human barbarian: I'm strong and have anger issues.
Here is me explaining an elf barbarian: I'm strong and have anger issues.

[knotty pasture]

Humans are more flexible in that regard, like humans can be tree hugging Druids but tree hugging Dwarves are a lot more rare, or Githyanki being anything but militant

[runic pilot]

I think that’s more dependent on how you play them. There’s always an explanation

[knotty basin]

Yeah, sure, but you have to work that into their backstory

[stray atlas]

from what I've gathered creche's are purposefully built to be echo chambers

[dense nacelle]

What would you all say is the best epic boon for a fighter? I’m kinda stuck between energy resistance or combat prowess

[knotty basin]

With humans you can do whatever with no explanation

[knotty pasture]

People subconsciously just accept backstories if you say "oh this is xxx class, he's a human"

[runic pilot]

I feel like you have to as a human as well. Any backstory without a reasoning as to why they are what they are is.. an interesting choice

[knotty basin]

Sorry, I worded that wrong. I meant more like… humans have a lot more options to be any one thing

[stray atlas]

not really

[knotty basin]

Other races are a bit more limited in what lifestyles make sense leading up to that point

[old sluice]

They don't. They have exactly as many options as anyone else

[stray atlas]

again not really

[runic pilot]

That’s the whole point of a backstory. Showing how they got to where they are. Maybe it’s more complicated as other species, but that’s less versatility and more complications.

Don’t want it to be super complicated? Boom, they were adopted, lol

All the culture is no longer a whole “rule stickler will complain” deal.

[dense nacelle]

Writing backstories is super fun

[atomic kayak]

definitely not true

[runic pilot]

One of my favorite parts of character building!!

[dense nacelle]

I absolutely love writing

[stoic obsidian]

I am elf barbarian that attack aggressively so my opponents have no breathing room and can’t think so easily for someone have to do it

[old sluice]

How so exactly? What prevents an orc from becoming the apprentice of a wizard, or practicing martial arts, or making a pact with a fiend?

[stoic obsidian]

Barbarian being angry people is a trope I hate

[buoyant oar]

Holga Kilgore peak barbarian not angry. Heartbroken

[runic pilot]

HOLGA MY LOVE

[old sluice]

What prevents a strong elf from picking up a heavy weapon and eschewing armour?

[dense nacelle]

There’s some species that synergies well with classes, you can come up with a lot of great combinations of species and classes

[stoic obsidian]

Never heard of them but that sound great

[buoyant oar]

She is the Barbarian from Honor Among Thieves

[runic pilot]

The dungeons and dragons: honor among thieves movie!!

Genuinely one of my favorite movies ever.

Improvised weapon potatoes forever!

[stoic obsidian]

Nothing, just mechanical synergy with magic if you don’t pick the wood elf

[dense nacelle]

Human is pretty free-flow because of their extra origin feat, but it is by no means the best

[stoic obsidian]

Agree

[dense nacelle]

Or, by no means the only option

[stoic obsidian]

All species are great in their own ways

[old sluice]

So humans do not have more options and it is certainly not "role-playing versatility". It's just that some species synergize slightly better with some classes.

[runic pilot]

I think it was more of the claim it was the most versatile than the claim that others can’t do it

[dense nacelle]

Yeah, one of my favorites is Goliath, their potential teleportation or extra fire damage or damage tanking is pretty good

[runic pilot]

Versatility was just the wrong word to use, haha

[stoic obsidian]

Yes

[old sluice]

The "humans can do whatever no explanation needed" argument is nonsense. Because it is true of everyone.

[dense nacelle]

Goliath rune knight fighter my beloved

[stoic obsidian]

It really is ridiculous

[runic pilot]

That’s a bit of strong wording 😭

[buoyant oar]

Other species even have pre built cultures that can fit them within canonical settings like Realms lore.

An elven barbarian might be a member of the Rashemen Berserkers or a Wild Elf from the Chondalwoodn, or a Lythari from the haunted Halls of High Watch.

[runic pilot]

Incorrect opinions shouldn’t lead to insulting them..

[stoic obsidian]

Or the lore of a campaign that don’t follow dnd lore to a T

[old sluice]

Or it could just be a sun elf from Silverymoon who became stronger than average and decided to capitalize on that

[buoyant oar]

An Orcish druid could be a member of the Ondonti a tribe of orcs that worships Eldath in the great Steppe north of the Moon sea.

[red steppe]

Is a character generally considered dead if they were forcefully sent into the Nine Hells?

[buoyant oar]

I find leaning into a settings cultures to be more fun. Than tall man plays basketball because man is tall.

[old sluice]

No

[limber oriole]

Did they die?

[stoic obsidian]

That’s fair

[red steppe]

Nah, just sent there by a BBEG or smth

[limber oriole]

Then they’re not dead

[dense nacelle]

You simply gotta bring them back somehow

[limber oriole]

The dead don’t typically go to the Nine hells anyway

Everyone who dies go to the Fugue plane

[buoyant oar]

To be judged.

The fugue is just the first stop.

[limber oriole]

Exactly

[red steppe]

I thought they would be "dead" solely of how difficult it is to get out by themselves

[old sluice]

With plane shift. It's pretty simple in theory

[limber oriole]

I mean there’s quite a few ways to escape the hells no?

[dense nacelle]

Is it possible to hire a hireling level 1 wizard who knows the resistance cantrip and just hides in your pocket constantly concentrating on resistance

[red steppe]

I mean it like in a Tier 2 setting

[buoyant oar]

Is the hireling a pixie?

[old sluice]

The other way would be using a portal, but good luck finding one that leads to where you need

[dense nacelle]

My character would be huge

[red steppe]

Worst case scenario, it leads into one of the layers of the Abyss

[still plover]

Cost a bit.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#Spellcasting

[limber oriole]

True, much simpler in theory than execution

Easy answer, find a portal

Complicated answer, find a portal that doesn’t take you somewhere worse.

[buoyant oar]

The DnD rules don't support player characters of that size. But I would rule that constantly concentrating would give Exhaustion levels, and even still the caster themselves can't be worn or carried.

[old sluice]

That is a problem. Have you considered making a devil deal for your friend's return?

[dense nacelle]

There’s ways to become huge, and even up to gargantuan

[buoyant oar]

Not permanently.

[dense nacelle]

Yes, but during combat you can keep it up decently well

[red steppe]

I dont mind as long as its not Asmodeus

[old sluice]

No need to involve Asmodeud in this.

[buoyant oar]

At the level required to make such a set up work. Resistance is a spell not needed.

[knotty pasture]

Asmodeus surely wouldn't care lol he'd just leave it to his archdevils

[upbeat marten]

Hey I’m looking to find a dm to run a curse of strand campaign

[dense nacelle]

Level 3 is the earliest you can become huge

[old sluice]

Just find a way to contact a devil of some standing, get a lawyer, have a lot in persuasion for the haggling part. Ideally you want a contract where the devil pledges that your friend will be safely returned in exchange for a few services.

[knotty pasture]

Depending on the layer of hell you're in, an underling of the archdevil that rules the layer may make deals

[buoyant oar]

As for the nine Hells. There are plenty of lower level devils you can scheme with. You don't have to go to the boss. Many devils will make deals to help advance their rank.

[knotty pasture]

Asmedeus and Levistus are the hardest to work with, I suggest earlier levels like Avernus/Zariel

[limber oriole]

I mean all it takes is a 7th level spell

[red steppe]

Would they accept a Warforged lawyer

[red steppe]

Ah alrighty

[marble lion]

there being no explanation does not make for better roleplay or more versatility. i completely agree that there are tropes that are supported to the point of genuinely perplexing people but that doesnt mean its worse or better

[limber oriole]

It could easily be an underling of any of the arch devils

[buoyant oar]

More likely to accept a modron lawyer.

[old sluice]

Of course. You need a lawyer in the sense that you need someone to look over the contract and make sure you're not getting screwed

[knotty pasture]

Btw now that we're talking about the nine hells

Is there a demonic counterpart to devas?

I thought of cambions but their CR is like 5 compared to a deva's 10

[buoyant oar]

The Baatezu of The Nine Hells are the best lawyers you will find. A lawyer on the Prime would not be of too much help tbh. Get yourself a Modron.

Or... Get another Baatezu.

[old sluice]

Yeah but it's an emergency situation. Better to have a lawyer from the prime than to not have one at all

[buoyant oar]

I love role playing Baatezu in Emergency situations.

"I need my lawyer to look over this."

"That's fine. This contract is only valid for the next hour."

[old sluice]

(Don't let the devils know it's an emergency. Look as cool and calm as you can)

First rule of haggling: Always give the impression that you will have no issue taking your business elsewhere

[buoyant oar]

Once. I had a demon disguised as a devil.

Did the whole contract thing and everything.

Led to a very good

"Smegaol promised!"

"Smegaol lied."

Kind of moment.

[stray atlas]

another question

if a vampire became a mind flayer would they have any special abilities?

[runic pilot]

I have this “imaginary friend” (deity that the character made a deal with so that she’d never be alone) that the dm said he’d let act as an invisible familiar, as long as I don’t use it in battle.

[knotty pasture]

They'd probably only inherit the abilities of the Mind Flayer

[minor cargo]

There's a vampiric mind flayer in Van Richten's. https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/1680955-vampiric-mind-flayer

In short, yes, they do.

Here's an article on them from the Forgotten Realms wiki: https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Vampiric_mind_flayer

[old sluice]

If a vampire became a mind flayer or a mind flayer became a vampire?

[modern garnet]

Lets see what Astarion says

[stray atlas]

the former

[old sluice]

Those are two very different situations.

[stray atlas]

the latter would probably have more unique attributes

[flint coyote]

hello 👋

[runic pilot]

Hello!

[modern garnet]

👋

[buoyant oar]

A vampire is probably a poor host to a mind flayer considering it's dead.

[old sluice]

Well... People don't become mind flayers. Mind flayers are born from killing their host bodies.

[modern garnet]

Vampire+Mindflayer=Alhoon

[buoyant oar]

Those are liches

[runic pilot]

I think they’re thinking baldurs gate 3 kind of transformation

[modern garnet]

Undead mindflayer

[old sluice]

The mind flayer is the tadpole. The host is just dead. In the same way that, say, when a wasp lays its egg in a caterpillar, the caterpillar doesn't become a wasp

[stray atlas]

no

[limber oriole]

Oh wow they basically become non-intelligent monsters only really useful for moisturiser

[buoyant oar]

Astarion is a hyper unique case since I don't think there is anything like him in the millions of pages in Realms Lore.

[runic pilot]

No?

[modern garnet]

I mean his circumstance is pretty unique

[stray atlas]

I wasn't thinking of astarion

I was thinking vampires in general

[old sluice]

Yeah the Astarion situation is really only explained by the weird way the magic that binds the Absolute, the magic in the Cube, the magic of the Emperor and the weirdness of those tadpoles interact.

[limber oriole]

The answer is basically they become less intelligent mindflayers

[old sluice]

Yes but vampires don't become mind flayers. Because nobody becomes a mindflayer.

[crisp rapids]

yo

[old sluice]

You are born a mindflayer or you are not.

[crisp rapids]

does anybody play dolmenwood

[runic pilot]

That’s why I thought maybe they meant the baldurs gate 3 situation where you literally get fully transformed into one through magic lol

[stray atlas]

that link doesn't talk about what I mentioned though

I was talking a vampire who got infected, not the tadpole

[modern garnet]

Im also fairly certain ceramorphisis requires a living host as well

[limber oriole]

The vampire is dead

[stray atlas]

ik ceremorphosis kills the person with the tadpole

[old sluice]

Ceremorphosis is not an infection. It's something killing you then using your body to transform

[limber oriole]

Then what’s the question?

A Vampire with a mindflayer tadpole doesn’t get additional powers. Just a death sentence really

[buoyant oar]

If a vampire was killed and a mind flayer born from it. It would be a standard Mind Flayer.

[stray atlas]

it's shorter than saying "who has a tadpole" and you still understood what I said

[crisp rapids]

i am a mossling knight a w person

[modern garnet]

only the hosts conciousness dies in ceramorphasis

[old sluice]

I'm not sure I actually understand what you're saying actually

[buoyant oar]

Vampiric Mind Flayer comes when the tadpole is infected with Vampirism.

[knotty pasture]

I mean at that point its best to follow how bg3 does it

[modern garnet]

The body continues to live under mindflayer authority

[knotty pasture]

As a vampire turned mind flayer you inherit the mind flayer's abilities

[stray atlas]

ok prolly best to just ask an overarching question then

do we know if a mind flayer has any special abilities if the host of their tadpole was abnormal in some way?

[knotty pasture]

I suddenly don't feel so bad about a decision I made in bg3 if that's what ceremorphosis actually is

[stray atlas]

e.g. if they were a sorcerer or a vampire

[runic pilot]

Bg3 ceremorphosis is entirely different 😭

[modern garnet]

Unfortunately my current play through has me stuck dealing with Raphaels punk ass in the house of hope

[runic pilot]

Weird Orpheus-Absolute magic stuff

[old sluice]

Oh! Yes of course. Gnome ceremorphosis for example is different. Tadpoles injected in beholders, in ettins... All give you a very different mind flayer

[knotty pasture]

They may inherit some of the abilities if the host

[stray atlas]

iirc it's flat out said the tadpoles are modified

[buoyant oar]

If a mind flayer tells you he remembers who he was. He is lying to you.

[stray atlas]

I know that different species do result in a different effect but like

[knotty pasture]

Wait fr? Cuz I was just gonna take what was said about Ceremorphosis as canon, like if I choose to be converted to a mind flayer I'd die, and I'd rather not die that way

[old sluice]

Being a sorcerer would not in theory change anything. Sorcery is in your soul, not body

[stray atlas]

if a normal human and a human sorcerer was infected would the resulting mind flayers have any differences?

[old sluice]

The tadpole can and often does eat the memories of the host.

[knotty pasture]

Funny how I beat bg3 once but my grasp of what makes the player's tadpole is still incomplete

[runic pilot]

Fr 😭.

[stray atlas]

I still don't get that whole destroying people's souls thing

[buoyant oar]

Yeah but those memories aren't the tadpole's

[old sluice]

Nope. Sorcery is in the soul, not body. But the illithid, from eating the memories, might be more curious about magic than the average

[reef tundra]

I'm reading the forgotten realms wiki and it says the tadpole eats the brain and transforms the body.

[stray atlas]

I can't think of a practical reason for it

[buoyant oar]

The tadpole is posing. It's like the Asian Jim joke in the office.

[stray atlas]

or hell for something a bit more dramatic

[modern garnet]

Playing a paladin this playthrough, have every tadpole chilling still in gales inventory, around 12 of them. Trying not to use any options relying on use of tadpole, instead relying on the paladins oath

[old sluice]

I don't know if it destroys the soul to be honest. It might just kill the person, same as any other death

[stray atlas]

what if a normal human and a human werewolf were infected?

[reef tundra]

I also think the person just dies

[old sluice]

Huge lie.

[runic pilot]

Oop my bad

[stray atlas]

would the mind flayer from the werewolf also have lycanthropy?

[knotty pasture]

I'd side with him on a Wyll origin

[reef tundra]

I got the achievement...

[runic pilot]

Not a lie if I’m just stupid, right? 😭

[stray atlas]

that's heavy spoilers and regardless of how much he claims to remember

[knotty pasture]

I made a quicksave to get the squid touching achievement too if you catch my drift...

[buoyant oar]

Host is more or less Non Existent diseases and all

[reef tundra]

Yeah, the wiki says the host's personality and memory are erased. Likely due to the brain being eaten

[runic pilot]

Oh shoot, i didn’t even think about spoilers! So sorry! I deleted it now, my sincerest apologies y’all!!

[old sluice]

Oh yeah spoilers.

[reef tundra]

Thank goodness I found out literally last week

[knotty pasture]

For some reason the moment we talk about Raphael we just went full into act 3 spoiler lmao

[reef tundra]

I love that fiend

[stray atlas]

he becomes more and more unlikeable the more he talks

[runic pilot]

Harleep my beloved

[knotty pasture]

Btw to the person struggling against him, use hold monster

[reef tundra]

It was a blessing. Amen Gale

[knotty pasture]

I also made a quicksave to talk to Harleep too that way 😭

[stray atlas]

ngl I do think the possibility of a mind flayer actually retaining someone's previous personality too interesting to just hand wave it away by saying it goes against lore

[knotty pasture]

All while dating Wyll because my Tav is a pos

[stray atlas]

I used a very different strategy

[runic pilot]

Plus a lot of things in bg3 go against lore. It’s not exactly lore accurate/canon

[reef tundra]

It's just like an actual dnd campaign, ignoring lore to make one hell of a story

[runic pilot]

Like Owlbear wild shape

[stray atlas]

put him in a silence bubble with karlach constantly knocking him prone and making him afraid

he couldn't do anything

[knotty pasture]

Or the nerfs to the short races, those were criminal

[reef tundra]

25 feet... what were they thinking

[stray atlas]

even when he got to attack it was only like 7 damage

and couldn't leave the silence bubble

[lyric idol]

I just used globe of invulnerability.

10 turns of "screw you cant touch me"

[stray atlas]

oh that reminds me of the barrelmancy video

[reef tundra]

I used the entire party to form a wall to keep him away from gale as gale took an angellic slumber to regain all the spell slots. It felt like the freaking return of gandalf when gale woke up

[stray atlas]

can't send it here sadly

[knotty pasture]

Shield Dwarves lost their +2/+2 stats and went back to +2/+1, Rock Gnomes lost their discount Prestidigitation and Forest Gnomes lost Minor Illusion

[old sluice]

I'd go further: A mind flayer suffering from the "You are what you eat" disease.

[reef tundra]

I like that too

[knotty pasture]

Shield Dwarves somehow going from above average to borderline obsolete in one go

[buoyant oar]

BG 3 made a lot of interesting decisions. Many from older material. But a lot of their legacy characters imo were done poorly.

[old sluice]

Due to a weakness or condition, that mindflayer gets overwhelmed by the brains they eat. They believe themselves to be the last person they've eaten for a few hours after the meal

[crimson gulch]

Dwarves gained a tremorsense ability, it's a huge boost

[old sluice]

Bit by bit that mindflayer loses all sense of identity

[knotty pasture]

What tremorsense

[lyric idol]

Would make playing as a mindflayer in 5e interesting.

[knotty pasture]

Unfortunately needs homebrew

[stray atlas]

I mean that's how it works in bg3

[uncut zenith]

Way better than just a sack of tool proficiencies

[stray atlas]

gonna spoil this but ||if Karlach turns into a mind flayer she mentions how each time he eats a brain she loses more of her old self||

literal ending of bg3 spoilers