dnd-discussion

[woven flint]

Clean it up

[fossil hollow]

uses your hair as a mop

[glass granite]

There ain’t much left to mop with

[woven flint]

Erm, this is NOT a D&D discussion ☝🤓

[fossil hollow]

fine, im using your hair as the material component for Prestidigitation

[woven flint]

Talk about how you're gonna kill Horizon tomorrow

Or maybe Nakato

[fossil hollow]

I might do the latter

[woven flint]

Baaaased

[fossil shuttle]

False, prestidigitation does not use a material component

[fossil hollow]

not stopping me from using his hair as the material component

[fossil shuttle]

Yes, it is. You'll just be left holding a handful of hair

[fossil hollow]

which i am using to clean up the mess with, like the spell says it does

[violet basin]

unseen servant is the classier option

[fossil hollow]

Using someone's hair gives a message

[fiery nimbus]

Enthrall is the more fun option

make em clean up their own mess

[violet basin]

good idea

[void relic]

Hello

[knotty basin]

I like to use darkness + devil’s sight on my wand/sword for warlocks. Also repelling blast

[vale sage]

Does anyone know how to import DNDbeyond character sheets to Roll20 in 2025? The adding a .json to DNDBeyond sheets methods seem to be outdated, and whenever I ask about this, people just say google it and there's a way, but I guess i haven't been very successful when googling

[fossil hollow]

theres an extension called beyond 20

[vale sage]

Does beyond20 let you import the character sheet into Roll20? I've used Beyond20 in the past to let me roll off my character sheet in DnDbeyond but my DM is asking for all of the character sheets to be consolidated into Roll20

[fossil shuttle]

I think having my Warlock be an infernal tiefling was one my best choices, devil's sight gives me 120 feet of darkvision and I get free spells and

[fiery nimbus]

thats not what we were talking about at all

[violet basin]

it does not import directly no

[vale sage]

yeah that's kinda what im asking for. this is less for me and more for my DM

seems like I should just manually fill out my character sheet in Roll20 then

[stoic obsidian]

Do you guys think you can be too cautious in dnd?

[snow agate]

yes its extremely common

though its usually due to insecurity of how people will perceive you making a poor decision, rather than out of real concern of safety

[fossil hollow]

the wednesday game im in are usually too cautious IMO.

[crimson gulch]

Yep

[fossil shuttle]

I find it especially so for older players with lower-level characters who are used to higher levels

[violet basin]

some people dont like danger, and therefore play adventuerers that dont like to expose themselves in anyway
usually to the detriment of their party

[fossil hollow]

i sometimes strike out and just try something

[crimson gulch]

I put the deck of many things in every game

[snow agate]

some people dont like looking like the idiot, so they refuse to be the first to walk down a hallway or go through a door because they dont wanna step on a trap

[fossil hollow]

love that time i started a fight with a dragon statue

[crimson gulch]

Folks go so hard on that

[fossil hollow]

and ended up paralyzed by a spider demon

[stoic obsidian]

Honestly, understand the feeling but after not getting a reward because I was cautious, yeah I see it differently now

[fossil shuttle]

I remember the time my party encountered a rift to the abyss that let a glabrezu out. We donated his consecrated skeleton to a museum

[snow agate]

i think its usually problematic just because the 30 minutes of a session you spend being afraid of going down the dungeon is 30 minutes you're effectively not playing or doing anything

[stoic obsidian]

That too

[violet basin]

when in doubt

just W.

(the move forward key)

[fossil shuttle]

You just gotta F around. Maybe you'll find out, but maybe you'll ball.

[stoic obsidian]

Me:Guys if the kobolds set up a trap for us in the first place they wouldn’t be putting a map in our pockets in broad daylight

[snow agate]

ok ngl the amount of paranoia i see with diplomatic encounters is always funny

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah

[snow agate]

if they wanted to stab you they wouldve when you entered the door xd

[stoic obsidian]

I only get paranoid if they give me a reason

Like a random dude in a cloak gave me a map to a job location, and say don’t bring weapons then I be cautious

[knotty basin]

So… not paranoid

[snow agate]

i agree, though ill say in my experience the amount of times ive been burned by negotiating with npcs who want to negotiate has been about 0

[stoic obsidian]

Exactly

[lean wigeon]

i really cannot see the appeal of 20-foot-pole gameplay

[stoic obsidian]

Plus I am starting to see why scouting can get annoying

[meager fractal]

It's a lot of fun. Hard to DM correctly, but once you pull it off your players are going to have a blast.

[snow agate]

i like the simple form of scouting because sometimes it can be helpful, like a ranger getting an overview of the enemy camp, or a druid seeing what kind of foes are in the cave as a spider

just dont overcomplicate it or be too risky imo

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah

Or if you can’t get info then just do it

Like you know their a vampire in the mansion with the staff, just go in

Danger be damn

[shy stirrup]

More people ought to try it 🙂
It is a style of play you should absolute touch with a 10 foot pole.

Also, how did it become a 20 foot pole? It's 10 feet. Inflation?!?

40 years of inflation = 20 foot pole?

[snow agate]

ngl half the fun of playing a paladin is being tanky enough to get to dramatically enter and say some cheesy one liner like "DRACULA! your end is here"

and just give up the pretense of strategy

[stoic obsidian]

Or you are a monk

Deflect attack the arrow

[scenic zinc]

Deflect Attack is amazing in the early game

[stoic obsidian]

Also paranoid of danger probably comes from the fear of instant death traps

[scenic zinc]

Drops of in tier 2

[stoic obsidian]

It good even late game

[scenic zinc]

But that's where most campaigns end

[snow agate]

if i was going to instant death trap you i wouldnt put it in a regular looking hallway

[stoic obsidian]

And you would tell people during session zero

[rough basalt]

I wouldn't

[stoic obsidian]

Because that were people would ask question and concerns

[scenic zinc]

It doesn't do well in tier 3, where most dangerous things are saves instead of attacks and most average damage from an attack is higher than deflect attacks can help with.

[rough basalt]

I'll use a rolling ball trap on a level 3 party.

[stoic obsidian]

Fair, but it still reduce damage when you need too

Or can sometimes

Like against regular enemies

[rough basalt]

Speaking of traps I need to break out my Gamemasters book of traps, puzzles and crap

Start throwing some real funky stuff at my Monday party

[exotic shard]

Is necromancer an easy class to play?

I'm playing in a campaign with my friends and I got told my character might be dying next session. Which is pretty fine by me cos I really wanna change classes, but is necromancer a good one to pick?

[scenic zinc]

As in... they're planning on intentionally killing your character?

[snow agate]

necromancer isnt a class

[exotic shard]

Yes

[exotic shard]

Oh

[scenic zinc]

That's... weird. And problematic.

I assume they meant the wizard subclass.

[exotic shard]

I have no clue, I just want to be a necromancer

[scenic zinc]

-# This is why people should start at level 1, not 3.

[exotic shard]

I mean we did start at lvl 1. But we're level 5 now

[marble lion]

Did you tell him you want to change character?

[exotic shard]

Yes. That's why my character is being killed

[scenic zinc]

You don't need to have your character die for that to happen you know

[marble lion]

Thought so. No problems there i guess

[exotic shard]

I know we jsut said it'd b cool

[scenic zinc]

You can just have them retire from adventuring

[marble lion]

Or die

[exotic shard]

Nah. He's gna die saving the party according to DM

Idk how. But it'll prob be fun

[marble lion]

Dying is way cooler than retiring in most cases

[scenic zinc]

Do whatever is fun for you I guess.

[exotic shard]

So about necromancer then. Is it a subclass?

[fossil shuttle]

My party's current monk/warlock used to play a warforged artificer. They put him into a coma and now he's using him for our b-plot campaign

[scenic zinc]

It's a wizard subclass

[marble lion]

Wizard with necromany dubclass
Or you could play death cleric

Or potentially a warlock with the right build

[scenic zinc]

But it's by no means the only way to be a person who animates the dead if that's your thing.

[rough basalt]

Yeah there's a few ways to be a Necromancer.
The Necromancer Subclass being the most on the nose way

[scenic zinc]

Spores druid is another way

[rough basalt]

Yeah can get fungal Zombies like TLoU (they're still just normal zombies, just fungal flavor.)

[exotic shard]

I think maybe death cleric. If that has any sort of healing spelss

The party has one healer that's a cleric and I NEVER get heals and I'm the party's main source of damage

[rough basalt]

Clerics can pretty much do anything

[scenic zinc]

Many DMs don't like having players play the villainous NPC subclasses.

[exotic shard]

So I'm usually almost dead by the end of every session

[crimson gulch]

The necromancy wizard is super popular and super underwhelming imo

[fossil shuttle]

Maybe bring that up with the cleric

[rough basalt]

Agreed.
It is underwhelming

[exotic shard]

I did. And I got told "I'm doing the best I can"

[scenic zinc]

So that's a conversation you should have with the dm

[marble lion]

Just dont play him evil

[exotic shard]

I don't plan to

[rough basalt]

When new Oathbreaker comes out I'll probably play that for a Necromancer

[marble lion]

Its a spelllist and necrotic touch

[exotic shard]

I have decided to play lalafell for my necromancer tho

[boreal trail]

hi

[rough basalt]

Or '24 Necromancer depending on which releases first

[exotic shard]

peak pfp

[scenic zinc]

Healing isn't on the cleric, alone. There's plenty of classes that can do it.

[boreal trail]

nah your is. jbb

[exotic shard]

I mean we have some sort of healer paladin. But he mainly js does damage, 0 buffs or heals

[scenic zinc]

Plus healing in general is bad in 5e. '24 is better about it, but still.

[marble lion]

Its much better at reviving than healing

[exotic shard]

Actually yeah. Can I play crossover races? Or is that against some sort of rule

[marble lion]

And rp moments

[rough basalt]

Content allowed in a dnd game depends entirely on the dm

[scenic zinc]

The only rules that truly exist are the ones at your table.

[fossil shuttle]

Paladins have Lay on Hands. That's one of the best healing methods out there for non-magic focused classes

[exotic shard]

Well at that point I could probably make my character a telly tubby cos we hardly have any rules

[violet basin]

paladins healing others is a myth

99.99% of the time the paladin takes a ton of damage and heals thyself

[scenic zinc]

Perhaps in '24. It being an action in '14 made it almost never used in combat

[exotic shard]

I will miss my yuan ti icl. But necromancy also sounds rly fun

[violet basin]

make a yuant-ti necromancer?

[exotic shard]

nonono. Rn I'm a yuan ti malison Rogue, and I'm gonna be a lalafell Necromancer

[stoic obsidian]

Kinda

[exotic shard]

From my stat buffs and snake form I get a solid +14 on my dex rolls

Physically cannot miss a dex throw (Mostly)

[violet basin]

so...a yuan-ti necromancer, got it

[fossil shuttle]

Our paladin has healed someone besides himself once, and it was after our druid got dragged into a field of tallgrass by a displacer beast

[exotic shard]

What? No. A lalafell Necromancer

[violet basin]

ignore druid, pet displacer beast

[violet basin]

yuan-ti necromancer, nice

[stoic obsidian]

Paladins are lite healers

[exotic shard]

what is this ragebait

[fossil shuttle]

That reminds me, I still need to get its head taxidermied

[violet basin]

it is not ragebait, it is da wey

[marble lion]

No its a yuanti necromancer

[scenic zinc]

Who auntie?

Yuan-ti.

[exotic shard]

Oh

[marble lion]

Voldemord time

[violet basin]

yuan-ti is best for necromancer
because yuan-ti is best (after owlin of course)

[exotic shard]

So is anyone here actually aware of what a lalafell is

[meager fractal]

not me

[exotic shard]

Yuan ti is goated I cannot lie

[scenic zinc]

Weird tiny rabbit person thing from ff14 i think?

[violet basin]

dinner? - yuan-ti

[fossil shuttle]

Creepy?

[fickle heart]

Halfling, basically.

[hollow lance]

Is there a spell that makes items look like other items?

[fossil shuttle]

Minor illusion, maybe

[violet basin]

an illusion?

[scenic zinc]

Nystuls magic aura, kind of.

[hollow lance]

Checked that sadly it won't work, thinking of making a real sword look like a sparring sword so when they spar they actually stab each other

[marble lion]

Seeming maybe

[scenic zinc]

Does seeming work on objects?

[marble lion]

Thats why im not sure

[hollow lance]

No it doesn't but that is a cool spell and I'm glad you told me about it

[marble lion]

Enjoy

[fossil shuttle]

So what you need is something like glamoured studded leather armor, but a sword?

[violet basin]

disguise self

[scenic zinc]

I think nystuls works. The magic aura you give it can effectively be "this magic item looks as though it's a normal sparring sword"

[hollow lance]

Yeah that would be the best probably

[violet basin]

Disguise Self
You make yourself—including your clothing, armor, weapons, and other belongings on your person—look different until the spell ends. You can seem 1 foot shorter or taller and can appear heavier or lighter. You must adopt a form that has the same basic arrangement of limbs as you have. Otherwise, the extent of the illusion is up to you.

The changes wrought by this spell fail to hold up to physical inspection. For example, if you use this spell to add a hat to your outfit, objects pass through the hat, and anyone who touches it would feel nothing."

you can in fact, turn your metal sword, into a wooden looking training sword

[scenic zinc]

Unfortunately disguise self is, well, a self spell.

[violet basin]

all for the low low cost of 1st level spell for one hour
I have used disguise self so often on my rangers, its amazing

[scenic zinc]

Not something you can cast on an object you then give to someone else

[hollow lance]

Not even if you take a feat

[violet basin]

does the player asking need to disguise themself, or someone else?

ring of spell storing, or a scroll of diguise self?

[scenic zinc]

Which is what I assume is the angle here.

[fossil shuttle]

Nystul's doesn't seem to actually change the appearance, it basically acts as a false report to magic detecting spells and the like

[frail wasp]

illusions like that aren't really a thing mainly because of the fear of players using them to turn copper pieces into platinum pieces and give the DM a headache

[scenic zinc]

You can make the magical effect seem real and apparent to anyone that handles it.

[violet basin]

Silent Image?

[meager fractal]

You could always work with your DM to come up with something homebrew.

[scenic zinc]

If that effect is what I said it works fine

[violet basin]

sword cane?

[still plover]

Checked, it only moves with the caster using the magic action on their turn.

[scenic zinc]

My assumption is luna is the dm

[hollow lance]

Nah I'm not playing at all I'm just theorising because I'm sparring rn

This is entirely theoretical in every single way

[scenic zinc]

I think nystuls does it though

[still plover]

Phantasmal force... kinda. Use wooden swords, get stabbed for "real".

[scenic zinc]

Especially because you can make the magical effect appear real

[marble lion]

Oh sparring cool

[still plover]

"You change the way the target appears to spells and magical effects that detect magical auras..." followed by details of those changes. It's got nothing about changing the regular appearance, just how it registers to a magical scan.

It's a tricky one!

[hollow lance]

You can trick someone so long as they have true sight lol

[scenic zinc]

The '14 version was more explicit, but I'm not sure the '24 one lost that effect.

[violet basin]

ah, i found the answer

just have a "Strange Material" normal sword made of wood

per DMG Magic Items, Minor Properties

[scenic zinc]

Because if you can make something appear magical and that magical effect is, say, a firey sword, I'm not sure why it doesn't also look like a fiery sword

[violet basin]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/dmg-2024/treasure#MagicItemsMinorProperty

[frail wasp]

i think using a magic item counts as cheating

i.e. its not a spell

[violet basin]

using illusion magic is the same as having a magic item that has no other properties but "Strange Material"

[scenic zinc]

Not really. Pretty sure the intent was asking for a spell to make one thing look like another, but I'm not Luna.

[hollow lance]

Yeah that is the idea

[frail wasp]

back in the day there were actual rules for testing whether an item was real or not--- biting the object was the traditional cheap way to do it, but I think illusions had a 90% chance of surviving that, the real test was hammering the item repeatedly

[violet basin]

marvelous pigments?

[hollow lance]

Make someone use a real sword as a sparring sword, you can get dangerously hurt just using steel in a spar, even a blunt one

[frail wasp]

each hammer blow had a cumulatively increasing chance of breaking the illusion

[marble lion]

I think the intent is to take mundane steel swords in a location and cloak them as harmless so clueless npcs kill each other accidentally

Presumably a player character sabotaging an enemy hideout

Thats what i thought of reading this anyway

[violet basin]

I dont believe there is way RAW to do exactly that without DM fiat

[scenic zinc]

That's pretty similar to how I read it.

[marble lion]

Impossible in raw

[scenic zinc]

Still unsure how nystuls doesn't achieve it with what I said.

[marble lion]

Oh maybe i dont know that spell

[violet basin]

nystuls doesnt change the apperance, and only masks an items original magic

[marble lion]

Reading what others replied it also might not work though

[frail wasp]

i wouldnt expect nystul's to work

[marble lion]

What even is nystuls

[frail wasp]

nystul's magic aura

[marble lion]

Level, class, book

[scenic zinc]

If you make a nonmagical item appear magical, I'm unsure how it's appearance isn't effected. '14 explicitly said it did and '24 doesn't appear to have undone that. It still says "appear".

[frail wasp]

2nd level spell, PHB, wizard

[still plover]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2619124-nystuls-magic-aura

[marble lion]

Right and not just 24 either iirc

[still plover]

It seems pretty clear. You can hide a magical item from detection by detect magic or make something mundane read as enchanted. It's got nothing about changing the physical appearance.

[scenic zinc]

Again, if the Effect you've made happen is "this nonmagical sword is now one that is a firey blade" and it doesn't look like a firery blade... it's pointless.

[frail wasp]

presumably you'd give it a believable fake magical property

[undone fable]

so whats your favorite dnd magic item

[scenic zinc]

Again, '14 explicitly did say it did exactly this. It appeared as actually that thing.

[still plover]

It's no good for this use case, I'd agree.

[violet basin]

ioun stone of mastery

[frail wasp]

you wouldn't use nystul's to make a broom seem like thor's hammer of thunderbolts

[scenic zinc]

I see no reason as to why the word appear isn't changing it's appearance.

[frail wasp]

or you could do it, but you ... shouldn't be surprised when nobody believes it

[still plover]

(Oddly, although listed in the 2014 Basic Rules it no longer has an entry with details)

"False Aura (Object). You change the way the target appears to spells and magical effects that detect magical auras"

[scenic zinc]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2005-arcanists-magic-aura

You have to use the generic name

[violet basin]

no, nystrul's does not work

[still plover]

Aha, thanks!

[scenic zinc]

When you use this effect on an object, you can make the false magic apparent to any creature that handles the item.

[violet basin]

Arcanist's version does not work wither

[scenic zinc]

It very much does but okay

[violet basin]

Unless you're reading it off a different page than I am seeing. I see nothing in the spell description that says it changes the physical apperance.

[scenic zinc]

I quite literally just quoted it.

[violet basin]

you quoted something that isn't relevant

[frail wasp]

the creature handling the sword might feel it's magic, but the creatures not handling the sword wouldn't, by that reading of the text

[scenic zinc]

If the false magic is "a looks like b" it's entirely relevant.

[still plover]

That wording is unclear. Hmm. I can see where azerick is coming from, but given the first line of the spell description I don't think I agree.

"You place an illusion on a creature or an object you touch so that divination spells reveal false information about it."

[frail wasp]

unless this duel involves both sides holding the same sword, doesn't seem like a useful line

[violet basin]

All the spell does is change the magic , it either hides it, changes it, or otherwise does somehing to the magic 'aura', but nothing about the physical apperance.

False Aura and Mask are its two effects and neither change a normal sword, into a practice wooden sword

[scenic zinc]

I am not quoting the mask function in any way.

False aura should do it or it's a pointless spell

[still plover]

I think this line is a bust, legacy or otherwise. It was good to explore. Seems like it's going to be one for a low-tech solution.

[frail wasp]

we can just agree to disagree and move on...

[violet basin]

Nystul'/Arcanists is essentially a F22. From a distance its magic is invisible, but if you actually look at it, its an F22.

you can't make it unto a corsair.

unless you change its aura (radar return) with magic (reflectors)

but if you look at it, its an f22

the spell doesn't allow you to paint it, or change its material apperance

[frail wasp]

or i guess we can't

[still plover]

Nah. You hide the fact that the King's crown has a shield spell in it, or disguise your illegal magical loot from the witch-hunters, or you con a mark with a little talent into overpaying for junk.

It's got use cases, just not for this.

[violet basin]

Seeming, from what I have found, is the only thing that does what Luna wants.

but it also has some caveats

[marble lion]

Like no objects....

[scenic zinc]

Literally doesn't work on objects :v

[violet basin]

oh, im thinking of the landscape version .... nevermind

[frail wasp]

but what is an object, really

[marble lion]

Nystuls is the closest but i personally agree with the view that it doesnt change the actual appearance

[violet basin]

nvermind hallucinatory terrain is not an option either

[marble lion]

I feel like its about making mundane steelsword seem like magical steelsword
As in steelsword +1

Not flaming enchantment

[violet basin]

^

[marble lion]

It specifically is about the invisible magical vs mundane property, not an enchantment with effects

[still plover]

Seeming: "The spell disguises physical appearance as well as clothing, armor, weapons, and equipment."

New question: you have two swords. You get seemed to make them seem wooden.

You hand one to your sparring partner. Does the illusion hold as long as they don't touch the blade?

[scenic zinc]

Why though? Because a Flaming sword looks on fire?

[valid geyser]

Yeah I don’t know if there are many items that can bypass identify at least, but you could probably use a combination of a couple to make an item seem like another to people without it

[marble lion]

I feel like it would lose the appearance when leaving you

[marble lion]

Yes

I think by magical they mean magical weapon tm

Not "make this thing seem to possess any enchantment you want"

[scenic zinc]

That seems highly restrictive to me

[keen sapphire]

Making an alchemist as your first character in like 6 years is like getting thrown into the deepest pits of hell.

[violet basin]

just make a human champion

[marble lion]

For my action i swing my sword

[still plover]

Does it have to be an artificer or can you get the effects you want by reflavouring another caster?

[marble lion]

I want to play that guy

[keen sapphire]

Using a pre existing subclass is miles easier than reflavoring another class, but a warlock could work for that.

[fiery nimbus]

wait a moment... you can use Armor of Agathys and Tomb of Lavistus as a combo together

[burnt grove]

Yea but then you’re essentially taking yourself out of the fight lol

[fiery nimbus]

technically you aren't since you are still dealing damage when hit

[limber trail]

Any combo that requires enemies to attack you is… not an amazing combo

[burnt grove]

Kinder Abjuration mage,Agathys Armor yay lol

[violet basin]

huffs in hellish rebuke

damage is damage!

[still plover]

Swig a philter, toss a vial, apply a salve? Guess I always saw alchemists as an easy one to fake. Same with rangers using trick arrows instead of conventional spellcasting, just a tweak to the description.

[fiery nimbus]

im not saying its amazing, im saying it is a combo

[burnt grove]

I forget is levity’s tomb concentration.. ?

[fiery nimbus]

not a spell ergo no concentration

nothing is stopping you from summoning a demon, and just chilling for a round in an icecube while its cleaning enemie's flesh from their bones

[clear crown]

Hey guys I'm new to DND I don't really know anyone who plays and I'd rather play in person than online anyone got any ideas?

[limber trail]

Also, this kind of doesn’t work. Both of these effects last as long as the Temp HP lasts. Getting the Temp HP from one effect overrides the other Temp HP so it’s debatable if the effect would end or not (it might have been clarified later)

[burnt grove]

Shrug I guess it can keep your concentration on good things

[burnt grove]

Actually in 2025 doesn’t temp hp stack now?

[fossil hollow]

nope

Still the same as 2014, you pick one pool

[limber trail]

It never stacked

[burnt grove]

Also regardless armor of Agathys doesn’t need its original temp ho

Just temp hp

[fiery nimbus]

Protective magical frost surrounds you. You gain 5 Temporary Hit Points. If a creature hits you with a melee attack roll before the spell ends, the creature takes 5 Cold damage. The spell ends early if you have no Temporary Hit Points.

spell effect ends when you have no Temporary Hit Points, ergo you can overwrite them and keep the effect

Cast armor of Agathys, use up most of the Temp HP, when the spell is about to be broken, entomb yourself

[limber trail]

I would say it’s still vague enough to be up to DM ruling but yeah that’s fair. 2014 wording is much more cut and dry about it.

[burnt grove]

Not really vague as long as you have any temp hp it works

[fiery nimbus]

other way around, 2014 says "as long as you have those hitpoints" being more vague than 2024 "So long you have Temp Hitpoints"

2014 ends upon expanding all the temp hitpoints you gain from the spell
2024 ends upon expanding all temp hitpoints

[limber trail]

2014 specifies as long as you have “those hit points” meaning the hit points from the spell. So when they’re overriden, you have temp HP, but it’s not those temp HP

[stoic obsidian]

I feel like I wouldn’t use find familiar for combat at all

Mostly because find familiar takes a hour to cast, and I rather not lose a free poking around corner option

[fiery nimbus]

its cast and forget

ergo you cast it at some point, and it is just hanging around

[violet basin]

find familiar a bat
use it for ad-hoc blindsense
have to chirp at you when it detects something it cant see (like its on your head or something

[fiery nimbus]

my Dhampir is using find familiar as a portable blood bank

When i need it, im just using Bite on my Imp

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah

But I said for combat

Like using the help action

[violet basin]

does that work raw?

Does the 'otherworldly spirit" of find familiar have blood?

[fiery nimbus]

well yea, familiars are neither constructs nor undead

[stoic obsidian]

Maybe I overthinking something, for I feel like the familiar could get caught up in a spell or get attacked and dies

[violet basin]

then you either have it hang back
or you just get a new one later

[fiery nimbus]

sure it could, you just wrap around and summon it again

a resource to spend like any other
an attack that kills your familiar won't be hitting anyone else but your familiar
remember that

[stoic obsidian]

In the middle of a dungeon for example?

[fiery nimbus]

Well yes, party takes shortrest, you don't
instead you resummon your familiar

[oak shoal]

I really WISH that the genie warlock subclass could cast wish because haha genie get it?

[stoic obsidian]

1 hour and 10 minutes for ritual casting

[fiery nimbus]

where did that 1 hour came from?

last time i checked ritual casting didn't take 70 min

[fiery nimbus]

there is

[stoic obsidian]

You add 10 minutes for ritual casting

[violet basin]

or just summon it back in town or outside the dungeon

[oak shoal]

Yes I know that they can cast it with there genie ability but that's boring and unflavorful

[fiery nimbus]

I think you misunderstood my message or misread it

[stoic obsidian]

No you misunderstood what I mean

[fiery nimbus]

what?

[oak shoal]

Also REWORK CHAMPION to be an absolute crit monster. I'm talking crits on a 15

[proven needle]

Hi! My name is Rippie, I don't know how to play DND at all and my partner is a fan of the game, doesn't have a game set and I would like to make one for him since I don't have the financial resources to buy them.
I wanted to do it for his birthday but I need help from someone who knows about this.I hope that person speaks Spanish or can tell me where I can find a Spanish server.

[fiery nimbus]

is your partner a DM or a player?

[stoic obsidian]

you aren’t gonna used a spell slot to re summon your familiar , and ritual casting do fact make casting the spell ten minutes longer

[proven needle]

If so, he's a geek, to be exact.

[fiery nimbus]

Well yes, but im still confused as to where this 1 hour came from

[stoic obsidian]

Find familiar takes 1 hour to cast

1 and 10 minutes to ritual cast it

[violet basin]

A DM (Dungeon Master) is the person "running" the game, vs a player, who plays the game the DM is running

[humble cairn]

1 hour to cast and 10gp worth of materials: https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2618877-find-familiar

[proven needle]

I only created this account for this; I don't usually use Discord, but I couldn't find anywhere else to ask either. I understand your distrust.

[fiery nimbus]

we really could have been clearer to each other
Well yes you cast find familiar while your party takes short rest
10 min this way or the other way is not much of an issue

[stoic obsidian]

You right it not

[violet basin]

I think you're attempting to follow, or have perhaps replied to the wrong comment.

No ones distrusting whatever it is you are, if you don't speak english and need a a Spanish server, I can only suggest that you go to Disboard or some similar Discord searching website and look for Spanish D&D servers that way.

[stoic obsidian]

I just over thought/over cautious over using the familiar in combat

[fiery nimbus]

I subscribe to the way of thought of spending all the resources you can afford to replace

[humble cairn]

If it takes an attack that's one less attack aimed at the party. If it gets caught up in a spell well ... that's why you get familiars with flyby and then position them in a hidey hole away from the party between Help Actions.'

[violet basin]

i subscribe to the way of bashing my enemies in blood and glory for the great glory of sontar-ha

[fiery nimbus]

Counter Point
Uses Hurl though Hell

[stoic obsidian]

Depends on dungeon

[violet basin]

Counter Point

Counterspell.

[stoic obsidian]

You aren’t gonna use an owl all the time

[stoic obsidian]

I punch your Counterspell

[violet basin]

I have a Willbender, let me flip it face up.
You now punch yourself.

[frail wasp]

hey that card is banned

[fiery nimbus]

Hurl through Hell is not a spell, ergo it can't be counterspelled

[violet basin]

willbender is banned? what

[humble cairn]

Ok back to D&D, please.

[stoic obsidian]

But you are disguised as me and I disguised as you, and I don’t know who I am

[fiery nimbus]

just pretend you are talking about Ravnica setting and you are free to talk about MTG

[stoic obsidian]

So how would willbender work in that case

[violet basin]

or llowryn, shadowmoor

[knotty basin]

You’re not a mod

[fiery nimbus]

Hurl Though Hell is a Fiend Warlock Capstone

[meager fractal]

used to be an earlier level spell in 4e

[violet basin]

things i know about capstones

zero

[fiery nimbus]

You give uppies to someone and toss em through the hell

[uncut zenith]

He doesn’t have to be a mod to remind people of the server rules

[fiery nimbus]

straight up, they hurl through it and come back

[knotty basin]

They gave me a thumbs up, sooo

[fossil hollow]

in fact its reccomended to remind others when they might be breaking server rules...

[knotty basin]

Maybe don’t talk for people

[violet basin]

when in doubt, have a glass of cchocolate milk

[fossil hollow]

again...

[humble cairn]

Because you're absolutely right. I'm not a mod. The point still stands. D&D is the topic.

[knotty basin]

But no one is talking about d&d. If everyone is having fun with the topic, why change it?

[uncut zenith]

Because of server rules

[meager fractal]

One time during a one shot the DM had something crawl it's way out of hell with the BBEG when the warlock used hurl thru hell on him

[uncut zenith]

The only channel for non-D&D topics is #non-dnd-topics

[knotty basin]

Why follow the rules if they help absolutely nobody at this moment in time

[humble cairn]

The rules keep this place useful for what everyone came here to use it for, which is D&D. I find it a more useful place when people stick to the topic and not clutter it up with junk that's off topic.

Off topic junk is static that just makes the channel less helpful.

[uncut zenith]

Feel free to ask the mods over in #moderator-support . Just make sure you don’t ping all of them

[knotty basin]

Yeah, no thanks. I’d rather not have their attention

[humble cairn]

And you agreed to follow the rules when you joined the server.

[knotty basin]

Did I?

[serene lily]

Let’s get back to D&D, folks.

[violet basin]

THAC0

[humble cairn]

I like the new Mobile Bastions. I do wish there was a land based variant, but I suppose the airship version works if you just say it's on the ground?

[knotty basin]

Ranger bad

[violet basin]

you take that back, gloom stalker is my bae

[knotty basin]

I hate alignment

[uncut zenith]

I thought they had options for land-based mobile bastions, like a lightning rail car

[violet basin]

valid

[humble cairn]

Yes, that's fair. I suppose I meant an overland version that doesn't rely on rails.

[knotty basin]

(I’m continuing the bit you started, not stating my opinion)

[violet basin]

oh, ok uh

Monks are the best class in 2014! Kensai is so good!

[uncut zenith]

Gotcha. Yeah, that would’ve been cool, but I suppose since the mobile bastions were introduced in the Eberron book, they wanted to make mobile bastions iconic to the setting.

[marble lion]

I love kensei

[fiery nimbus]

pretty sure they are the worst in 2014

[keen sapphire]

Think outside the box, use a chaotic lawful character. An evil good character. A true neutral character. The alignment does not define the character the character defines it. Bully your local DM with unconventional alignments.

[knotty basin]

What exactly is an “evil good” character?

[keen sapphire]

Uhhhhh

[violet basin]

I love when GOOD characters just suddenly do something completely evil and out of character because the DM said they get a fancy new toy.

oh, i get a slightly better magical shield and all I ahve to do is sacrifice 60 kids to orcus despite being a goody twoshoes the entire campaign so far? yea sounds good to me

[keen sapphire]

Character with evil intentions but thinks of themself as good

[violet basin]

when you break all their bones and criple them for life, instead of just ending them...?

[karmic fjord]

Batman.

[humble cairn]

Whereupon their Alignment shifts to evil, basically. Alignment doesn't control, guide, or dictate your actions and decisions. It only reflects and describes them.

[keen sapphire]

And vise versa, a character who thinks their evil but is outgoingly kind to other people.

[knotty basin]

I think it was more about usually good-aligned characters breaking character for mechanical benefits

[violet basin]

Bison from Street Fighter (movie)

[old sluice]

I think if you're playing a character who thinks they're evil, that character is either too shallow or too deep

[lean wigeon]

stereotypical knight templar archetype character, i suppose. "fights for a righteous cause" but either does it in a way that causes more harm than good to others, or has some ulterior motives and has something selfish to gain from upholding the cause

[old sluice]

Too shallow if it's moustache-twirling nonsense, too deep if it's about their self-loathing and regrets.

[violet basin]

Phantom is the best rogue.

[humble cairn]

Yeah, it works better when players have a more sound grasp of their character's personality and how they would make decisions. Which is why I prefer a well written PBIF (Personality, Bonds, Ideals, Flaws) over Alignment.

[violet basin]

my characters alignment is:

collect magic items
slay whatever is in the initative that isn't my 'team'
collect more magic items

[humble cairn]

Speaking of Bastions, my DM let me have one of the new ones from Heroes of Faerun so now I'm reorganizing my special facilities.

[frail wasp]

we simplify that to 'adventurer'

[marble lion]

my alignment tends to be
die in a stoic sacrifice, following principles even over morality

[violet basin]

"Supermannnnnnn"

• Warforged twilight cleric of mine. Find the best valiant death.alignment

[fossil hollow]

theres a starrrr maaaan

[jolly hound]

What do you guys think a good steel defender for a tabaxi could be? Idk if I should go with a big robot or like something themed

[fossil hollow]

dont post your age

[oak shoal]

I just saw my paladin look at my notes. What should be his punishment?(I'm DM)

[meager fractal]

was it on purpose

[oak shoal]

Yes

[meager fractal]

definitely deserves a talking to, possibly even a boot from the campaign

[humble cairn]

An out of character conversation about boundaries.

[oak shoal]

That's not evil enough

[humble cairn]

OOC problems require an OOC solution.

[oak shoal]

He's also my brother so it would be kinda awkward

Should I cut his con state in half?

[violet basin]

1 talk to him
2, reduce all his stats by 2d4 , and make him do the rolls

[humble cairn]

"Hey, don't do that, it's not cool." Is awkward?

[oak shoal]

No kicking him out of the campaign

[humble cairn]

That's not what I suggested.

[oak shoal]

Oh mb

[humble cairn]

Don't use IC solutions for an OOC problem.

[crystal shoal]

What about OOC solutions for IC problems

[oak shoal]

It doesn't bother me enough to talk to him about it because he knows its wrong and was told to not to do so. So I think divine punishment on his most beloved character would be hilarious

Time to chop that con stat into pieces

[marble lion]

that sounds bad

[clear lark]

I have to concur

[marble lion]

every pair of brothers ive ever had the pleasure of befriending had these moments where one did something bad and instead of doing the mature thing and solving it, they instead bit back and it spiralled and i called my mum to pick me up because it was just the brothers fighting for the rest of the day, ending up in a shouting match between their parents and them

every damn time. so please just talk to him. dont turn this into a "who can bother the other more"

damn feeling some real sleepover nostalgia from childhood here

[humble cairn]

No, I would not recommend this.

[meager fractal]

What is the primary function of the Bard in D&D 5e?

[oak shoal]

Really depends on the subclass

[violet basin]

flirting with monsters and npcs
based on my experience with other players and their bards

[proven mountain]

Utilify, face, magic

Lots of options

[oak shoal]

So we ended up having a talk about it and that he wouldn't do it again. I didn't chop his hp to pieces

[violet basin]

Khorne is unhappy, but the Emperor accepts this result .

[knotty basin]

Who?

[oak shoal]

However he can expect a nasty fart in his face in the middle of the night

[humble cairn]

The basic class is a Charisma focused Support, Utility, and Control full caster.

[violet basin]

👎

[meager fractal]

Speciically valor bard

[rocky summit]

and, if you run a youtube channel called D4: DnD Deep Dive, then they’re also Blasters

[humble cairn]

I mean they can be with Magical Secrets, but that's certainly a niche build.

[rocky summit]

but mostly yeah, control and support and utility spellcasters with a focus on performance via music or dance or any kind of artistic or creative talent. The focus isnt necessary, just an aspect.

[rocky summit]

believe me i agree. twas more of a joke about d4 than it was about bards.

[cinder timber]

Hello people

[meager fractal]

Why halo thar

[clear lark]

Bards are musicians and storytellers with spell abilities. For some reason Youtubers turned them into mischievous trickster types, something that was traditionally meant for the Thief (now called Rogue).

[oak shoal]

So in my campaign the BBEG is still very alive and well(maybe a bit too much) but I've got plans for him for whenever he dies. Once he dies Bane won't let him go until the bitter end so he revives him as a death knight and sends him after the party. Is this planning to far ahead or I'm cooking a shit storm?

[glossy otter]

I wouldn't say planning to far as it's good to have plans in case for if or when it happens, though it might be better for #dm-discussion

[atomic kayak]

it wasn't youtubers that did that, its been a thing well before youtube even existed

and makes sense, considering bards in dnd quite literally originated as a thief prestige class

[lyric idol]

I've never seen or heard of a trickster bard outside a College of Whispers Bard.

Tbf I dont also watch much DND outside The Dungeon Dudes for deeper class dives specs and builds.

[minor lake]

glamour bard is funny af

[lyric idol]

Okay yeah Glamour bard is fun. Same with Trickery domain cleric.

[minor lake]

unrelated but they have a spell that requires them to perform for a full minute before their subject is charmed

[fossil hollow]

oop

[clear lark]

The Bard did not originate as a Prestige Class. They originated in AD&1e. They were so much of a far option class they weren't even put in with the other classes, but were put near the back of the PHB

[minor lake]

the idea of somebody dancing for a full minute and being observed is so funny to me

"guys make him watch me go"

[gray mortar]

It's fair given folks often watch performers for longer than a minute

[lyric idol]

Yknow its probably intended to charm people when youre at a party, doing a show, performing for a king, etc.

[minor lake]

yeah but that's like for a show

[woven flint]

"Go, White boy, Go!"

[minor lake]

exactly
the idea of somebody failing a charisma check and just busting a move

[lyric idol]

I do like the idea of the rest of a party tackling one guy down and forcing him to watch the bard for a minute whike he does a puppet show or something lmao.

[woven flint]

I have an Owlin Glamour Bard

He's an absolute BADDIE

his name is Caspian Goldengale

[gray mortar]

"I think we should stop them from transforming, but it's very memorizing to watch."

[minor lake]

HAHAHAHA

[atomic kayak]

they quite literally were one in ADnD - they just weren't called prestige classes back then

[minor lake]

so freaking good
if you can believe it not that effective in actual play tho

[gray mortar]

Remember folks, you are always allowed to shoot the villain during a monolog

[lyric idol]

Now THATS a glamour bard character idea. A comedian/singer who performs via puppets.

[clear lark]

No you were just wrong.

[gray mortar]

Do not let them finish powering up, I repeat do NOT allow them to finish

[atomic kayak]

No I wasn't lol

[woven flint]

I interrupt the villains Monologue with my own Monologue

[limber trail]

Remember folks, the villain is allowed to retalliate when shot

[hollow stone]

but i wanna let them cook >.<

[gray mortar]

My guy, if you're a villain in DND, it's kinda assumed you shot first.

[lyric idol]

I'm playing a mix of OSE and ADnD and bard is there as a class :/

[limber trail]

(shoot the villain it's so fun)

[gray mortar]

This is so bard coded, I'm actually going to give it to a bard NPC

[snow agate]

valor bards are extreme generalists because they can either be decently sturdy melees or archers whilst having bard casting and bard skills. they make good facey/explorer types like indiana jones or good combat leaders like guard captains

[gray mortar]

Wait, would it actually be more Wizard coded? As they just go on about their subject of study, and bored everyone's mind because nobody understands?

[atomic kayak]

Yea bard originated in dnd in ADnD as a class only available from the process that would eventually come to be known as prestige classes.

required a few different things, but thief was the important one (which is also why bard later got grouped with thieves/rogues in later editions)

[woven flint]

My Owlin Glamour bard would ABSOLUTELY interrupt a villains Monologue to be like:
"Okay? But you're not ME, so I don't really give a crap.."

I should show him off

[gray mortar]

Only one guy is allowed to finish his story, and he's not even in DND. But he's often relating his tales to an egg laying mammal.

[hollow stone]

tbh i don't get interrupting monologues, like my perception is that you either shoot them as soon as they're in the room or you let them state their case

[limber trail]

would you say this egg laying mammal is a mammal of action?

[lyric idol]

"I expected your party to arrive of course. It was all a part of my-

"I expected you to expect the arrival of my party. It was all apart of my plan so-"

"Expected? You were easily led here by crumps I planted!"

"Exactly! They were easily planted. How could I help but see the obvious bait and not prepare accordingly for it?"

[glass granite]

“Now, time for the most interesting subject of all, and the subject I know the most about: me. Buckle up, sit down, and grab your popcorn because this self-absorbed extravaganza is gonna last a while”
(Quote from one of my characters that I was never able to play)

[woven flint]

Folks, check him out
#dnd-arts-and-crafts

[gray mortar]

Yes. actually.

He's just also very polite

[lyric idol]

Dope.

[gray mortar]

Now, don't get me wrong, it WOULD be polite to allow the villian to finish their monolog.

It's just I'm still in favor of shooting em during it.

[woven flint]

Beautiful men 😩

Anyway

[lyric idol]

I love it when artificers or gunslinger fighters just act on the ol "you brought a sword to a gunfight" trick.

[glass granite]

My monk brings nothing to a gun fight
-# and wins

[minor lake]

bro i feel so leveled up i finally have enough grasp of the mechanics to punish my players for doing stupid stuff

[lyric idol]

Isn't it a wonderful feeling?

[glass granite]

Yo congrats!

[minor lake]

when you finally understand combat enough to run a town guard

[lyric idol]

Speaking of, with the new Artificer out, I wanna make a changeling Artificer who makes magic items and sells them, only to cancel his ability and make that magic item a regular item when he gets far enough away. He uses his changeling ability to make new identities to avoid getting caught

[woven flint]

Towns Gaurd? 🚫
Small Malitia? ✅

[hollow stone]

militia

[woven flint]

Squishes you

[hollow stone]

🥺

[woven flint]

I'll keep it incorrect, I know what I meant >:[
/playful

[sand thunder]

Hey guys

[glass wasp]

Hey man

[sand thunder]

HRU???

[errant gate]

guys, Im having trouble on which stats i should put on my wizard

Is it worth multiclassing to fighter for action surge?

[violet basin]

no

stats for wizard are Intellegience, then Con/Dex in whatever priority you want, Wis, Cha, and str is last.

can also do a cha or wis secondary after Int for some campaigns.

[clear lark]

You can't use Magic Action with Action Surge anymore

[errant gate]

with phb 14?

[violet basin]

con is important for concentration saves
dex is good for initiative, and ac, and some other stuff

[scenic zinc]

if you're doing '14 it works fine

[violet basin]

action surge is somewhat pointless since you can only cast a single leveled spell per your turn anyway. so at most you get a cantrip or movement out of it, and also lose 2 levels of wizard progression

[scenic zinc]

primarily because the term magic action doesn't even exist in that ruleset

[scenic zinc]

that's not how that works

[errant gate]

so should i multiclass or not?

[scenic zinc]

the restriction in '14 is in relation to casting a bonus action spell. it has nothing specifically to do with "levelled spells"

[charred iron]

hello i want to play d&d im new to everything so please help

[scenic zinc]

if the spell you're casting has a time of 1 action, you can in fact cast two of those spells in the turn when you do an action surge with '14

[violet basin]

still a pointless waste of multiclassing into fighter

[scenic zinc]

I disagree, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

"not the most optimal" is different than "pointless"

[errant gate]

ah okok

[violet basin]

it is both pointless, and non optimal if you're not setting up some sort of rube goldberg esque spell web shenanagins

[scenic zinc]

I still disagree. Moar fireball go brrr

[errant gate]

what numbers should i put on each stat?

[violet basin]

did you roll, use standard aray, or point buy?

[errant gate]

standard array

[violet basin]

what level is your wizard?

[errant gate]

1

[violet basin]

what race?

[errant gate]

wood elf or is high elf better?

[knotty pasture]

High's better imo

[violet basin]

honestly, no clue there. i usually go half-elf for the +2/+1/+1. so someone else can take that one

8/13/14/15/12/10 is pretty typical
str, dex, con, int, wis, cha

[errant gate]

tysm, Im fairly new to the game and dont know which stats are useful

[errant gate]

do these have the high elf modifiers?

[knotty pasture]

No, for the bonus stats you should go +2 int +1 dex

To hit 14 dex and 17 int respectively

[violet basin]

Well, str is typically the dump stat for full casters - aside from a few corner cases like clerics wanting to wear specific armors.
Dex is nice to have, but Con tends to be a bit more useful for Concentration Saves and HP.
Intelligence is your main stat, for casting.
Wis is good, since a lot of things use Wisdom in terms of both Skills, and Saves.
Cha is ok, if you like to be a Face with the applicable skills, but as a Wiz and its still a better place to put the 10 than in Str.

[charred iron]

hello i want to play d&d im new to everything so please help

[violet basin]

you could put the 12 or 13 in cha, and have wis at 10 instead... really doest matter much with +1..

[violet basin]

#dnd-newcomers

[charred iron]

ty

[stoic obsidian]

I agree

[errant gate]

isnt it +2 dex and +1 int for high elf?

[knotty pasture]

I'm assuming customizable origins where you can freely assign any stat you want

[glass granite]

Are you playing 2024 or 2014 rules?

[violet basin]

+2/+1 or +1/+2 works in this situation.

[errant gate]

2014

[glass granite]

Then you are correct

[stoic obsidian]

That also depends on what kind of wizard as well ( mostly bladesinger)

But generally the same tbh

[marble lion]

If youre new, are you sure you want to choose your race based on optimal build?

Highelves and woodelves are quite distinct in theme and have different special skills

[errant gate]

I just wanted to be an Elf and didnt know which one is better

[marble lion]

Id go by that usually

[errant gate]

what do they do differently?

[marble lion]

But what kind of elf? Any inspirational media?

Woodelves have more nature coloured skin to the point of being green

They blend into the wilderness when stealthing, shown in their feature

Highelves are very magically talented and know a cantrip for free

Theyre the blonde/silverhaired standard high fantasy elves

Woodelves in dnd are like the highfantasy elves in their forest cities but with extra nature on top

Best way to decide is probably knowing what may influence your character idea.
A novel series, an anime, lotr?

[violet basin]

and half elfs get +2/+1/+1!

[stoic obsidian]

That another thing to character creation, it not just stats, and spells it also the backstory, personality, and more

Also tip, get a extra spell book

[violet basin]

and pick Firebolt as one of your cantrips

[knotty pasture]

High Elves get a free wizard cantrip of your choice

Wood Elves have a higher base move speed

[stoic obsidian]

Or toll the dead

[violet basin]

also a good choice

[stoic obsidian]

And shield, absorb elements

[marble lion]

I like friends but it only works if the dm cooperates

[glacial pulsar]

How do yall come up with a personality personally for your character?

[marble lion]

Shield not cantrip

[stoic obsidian]

I meant lvl 1 spells to pick up

[knotty pasture]

I base it off people I know irl and improvise off it

[marble lion]

I selfinsert a fictional me with achievements and a past i do not have, then use that to make decisions

[knotty pasture]

Its easy to design characters around people you know that way cuz they have real human flaws and not some idealized version from some fiction

[stoic obsidian]

I create the personality off of what a person that live that kind of life would act like

[violet basin]

firebolt is so boring to RP, oh i point my finger and send a little bolt of fire at someone.

Toll the Dead is like,

"I raise my hand up in the air as if to grasp the rope of a mighty bell, facing the victim of my wrath! With an exertion of my will, raising my chin to look down upon them, like an ant beneath my heel. I clench my first and the muscle of my arm in a display of magical determination. The wrathful sound of that great bell tolls as my mystic might invades their puny psyche.:

[stoic obsidian]

Tho I just do it tbh, less brainstorming more writing

[glacial pulsar]

firebolt kind of a timeless classic tbh, can't go wrong with it.

[marble lion]

You just dont get the majesty of fire

[stoic obsidian]

Or you conjure up a flaming rose that launches forward stabing the enemy and exploding ( all flavor)

[marble lion]

Both are cool

Thats also cool

My burning hands was a swarm of cinder butterflies

[fickle heart]

As someone who is doing an entire rework of spellcasting solely to make spells more cinematic, they can all definitely be really cinematic if they are described correctly.

[marble lion]

I miss playing my bardlock

[stoic obsidian]

I let it rip from you know were

[violet basin]

well, really it comes down to there's a lot of fire reistant and fire immune creatures in dnd, less so necrotic

[marble lion]

Ew gross

[fickle heart]

Think Firebending from ATLA for how kewl stuff can be.

[stoic obsidian]

I also imagine fairy tail

Yup anime got my brain in a grip

[marble lion]

Atla is an anime too so you didnt start it

casts compelled duel

[stoic obsidian]

Time for cowboy bending

[violet basin]

casts Command

Prostrate!

||Oh no, i have a speech impediment and fudge one letter.||

[stoic obsidian]

Bwahahaha but yeah atla show how fluid magic really be

Like blood bending

[marble lion]

Atla is just martial arts with magical range enhancers though

Ok bloodbending is an exception

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah

[stoic obsidian]

Actually wouldn’t benders be elements monks

[marble lion]

But apart from that, all the combat in that show is just martial arts but they stand 20ft apart

[fickle heart]

It's more of the motions being really good for fantasy inspiration, especially considering that Somatic used to be full-body in D&D.

[limber trail]

Stuff like Avatar & other animated eries are super huge mental references for me as far as narrating combat & moves ngl

[uncut zenith]

I love Avatar, but I don’t think it works in D&D

[stoic obsidian]

Not one for one yeah

[fickle heart]

People are mostly referring to the movements, not necessarily the abilities.

[lyric idol]

Yknow kinda disappointed Rogue didnt get a new subclass for Eberron. Coulda got a Clockwork rogue or something smh.

[uncut zenith]

They had a good opportunity to update the Inquisitive rogue imo, but I think they were prioritizing updating the Artificer, so I can’t complain

[coarse ravine]

I just found out about the magic item "ring of the split mind"

Can you have two call lightnings going at the same time?

Like action it's 6d10 now instead of 3d10

[lyric idol]

Artificer def got a glowup tbh. New subclass, new armor type for armorer. I didnt see much change to Artillerist and Alchemist tbh tho.

[uncut zenith]

Alchemist got a glowup too

I don’t like the new subclass all that much, but hey. At least it’s a new subclass

[lyric idol]

I think its very niche and more flavorful then anything, but I do like it.

In a more exploration focused game I think itd be a fun play.

[stoic obsidian]

It be two separate instances, so it be 3d10 for both

[limber trail]

It would be an action to activate each call lightning since they’re separate spells

Each requires an action

[stoic obsidian]

Tbh that just broken tbh

[coarse ravine]

Oh so it would be smart to cast a passive spell that does stuff like bless. Then another spell like call lightning

Or aura of vitality and call lightning not one that requires action. Gotcha

[coarse ravine]

I never knew it was a thing till just now

Yes it's broken but at least it's only 3rd level or lower.

[limber trail]

Yes

[limber trail]

I’ll also remind you now, it’s third party content, so it’s A) subject to DM approval and then B) subject to if the DM is even going to allow third party content at all

[coarse ravine]

Oh it's homebrew?

[limber trail]

It’s third party

[coarse ravine]

What's that mean

[lyric idol]

3rd party. Made by someone else but allowed into DND

[limber trail]

So it’s published on DnD beyond but it’s not designed or published by wizards of the coast

[coarse ravine]

Guys like critical role?

[lyric idol]

Yes exactly

[limber trail]

Similar to critical role, yeah

[coarse ravine]

So not homebrew but not core?

[bronze wave]

no its homebrew

[lyric idol]

Yes.

[limber trail]

Ultimately it’s not considered official content and so a lot of games are unlikely to allow it

[bronze wave]

anything 3rd party is homebrew lol

[limber trail]

Me personally, I wouldn’t allow it in my games for example

[bronze wave]

diuble con sounds busted

[lyric idol]

DMs tend to take and pick what they want from 3rd party content. But every DM is different. I would either rework the item a bit.

[coarse ravine]

If it's homebrew I don't even wanta ask.

[lyric idol]

Honestly I'd add either a concentration check to cast the second spell. I'm considering if making it at disadvantage would be required. Probably.

[coarse ravine]

He just said pick 3 rare-very rare items to start with

I just stumbled upon that ring and went 👀

But if it's homebrew yeah I don't wanta press it.

[lyric idol]

Its not. I checked the wiki, source is critical role

It is 3rd party tho.

[coarse ravine]

Sais vulnerable to psychic damage as it's like only flaw

[lyric idol]

I think thats not enough tbh would make it so I as the DM would wanna throw some type of psych spell or attack into a lot of encounters I wouldnt.

Even if its 3rd level or lower, allowing someone to start with a higher tier spell and then split cast something like cloud of daggers is an insane combo.

[limber trail]

The ring is from the Griffons Saddlebag which isn’t published by critical role to my knowledge

[lyric idol]

It'd be even worse on something like the 2024 Wild Magic Sorcerer.

[coarse ravine]

Sais if you are concentrating on third level or lower you can cast another 3rd level or lower.

[coarse ravine]

So like moonbeam and call lightning same time

Or aura of vitality and entangle I guess

Or frickin spirit guardians and something else insane. Yeah it's op lol. But never knew it existed till just now

[lyric idol]

I did a little more reading on the item, it is classified as Very Rare so I dont think your DM would allow it since he said rare items.

[coarse ravine]

He said you can take 3 tomes or 3 manuels it doesn't matter

He said anything uncommon-very rare.

[lyric idol]

Oh in that case he may allow it.

[hearty bay]

Next session my barbarian is going to receive a magic item as a Quest reward, so just for the sake of aiming, which kinds of items are the most helpful for barbs?

[knotty pasture]

What rarity?

[hearty bay]

Idk, but won't bet in anything more than rare

We safely brought the eye of a lich to an artifact collector

Thanks to my barbarian's ability to bend silver barehanded

[knotty pasture]

Belt of Hill Giant Strength

[coarse ravine]

What's his con?

[spare horizon]

Chat help I just deleted a character that I’ve been trying to build up a story for in favor of making a rogue. Again. I think I might have an addiction to Rogues.

[coarse ravine]

Amulet of health

[hearty bay]

16 con, 20 str

[coarse ravine]

Amulet of health

Makes his con 19.

Which for a barbarian increases his ac and his health

[marble lion]

That is only a +1 for him just saying

Buffing the 2 main stats of a class with items is usually not thst great becsuse as shown here they already raise them high

[minor lake]

some of these homebrew spells r hilarious
barbarian goes into rage. unless surrounding characters make a dex save they are struck by 20 D 12 lightning damage

[marble lion]

Id vote for a magic weapon, special jewelry or something to help with mental saves

A barbarian really doesnt need more strength or con

[hearty bay]

He has a weapon

[marble lion]

Ok maybe 20 con would be nice but 19 eh. Its good ofc but it sounded like you really want this to be a cool one

[minor lake]

can you tweak it?

[hearty bay]

Yeah, he's a 2014 level 7 barb with path of the giant

[coarse ravine]

What is the quest in relation to? Like what's he fighting/doin

[minor lake]

can u have it do +4 without breaking the game

[hearty bay]

He usually fights cultists

We even meme that our dm is a wisdom save merchant

Due to how often we bump into those

[marble lion]

Wait youre not the dm?

[hearty bay]

No, I'm the barbarian, I'll get to choose an item

[marble lion]

Oooh

I see nevermind then

[hearty bay]

Likely from 3 choices the dm provides, but I wanna know what barbarians usually want

Ironically I personally could see myself getting a headband of intelligence

Because my barbarian is deep within the investigation of the cult, but his int doesn't help

[coarse ravine]

I mean... ring of free action looks good. Yall usually take on alot of attack damage. But suffer from aoe damage

[hearty bay]

And the party discredits him to an extent, because there's stuff happening that only he can see

[coarse ravine]

Ring of free action allows ya to succeed a dex save

[hearty bay]

I'd love that

[glass granite]

-# cape of billowing!

[coarse ravine]

Yeah nothing like saying no to a disintegrate

But you aren't totem barbarian.. so you can always take items that make ya more resistant or immune

[hearty bay]

Barbarians have advantage on dex saves, though

[coarse ravine]

Like there's a rare items that has no attunement but immune to poison damage

[hearty bay]

I never got poisoned

But received barrages of magic missiles pretty often

Enemies are swapping to fireballs, though

[coarse ravine]

CNt dodge that

[coarse ravine]

I'm assuming he's only giving you uncommon-rare items?

[hearty bay]

Yeah, so far my barb has a single magic item

A +1 Warhammer that has 3 1d4 elemental damage charges per day

[coarse ravine]

So dancing sword would be out of the question

[azure dawn]

I just joined this server, r u guys playing the same game or not?

[coarse ravine]

Ima just look at rares for you.

[coarse ravine]

I wish I was playing rn but no.

[hearty bay]

He also wears a shield

[coarse ravine]

Well there ya go

Animate shield.

So ya can go 2 hand.

[azure dawn]

I am a lvl4 draconic sorcerer with an ac of 19 without armour. my dm threw a glass when i did the random generation option and got an amazing charisma score

[hearty bay]

There are bracers that work as a shield, aren't there?

[coarse ravine]

Actually yeah

I guess bracers do what animate shield does... but better

No need for bonus action.

[hearty bay]

Bracers for the free hand it is

How does dual wielding works, in combat, vs extra attack?

[coarse ravine]

Yeah you need your bonus to rage right?

[hearty bay]

I do

[coarse ravine]

Yeah then go two hand

You're good.

[raw ocean]

Should I take a deal where if I stay under level 5, I can't be killed?

[glass granite]

No

You’ll be eternally mediocre

[raw ocean]

I know but I convinced my DM to allow to essentially use the power of all for one from MHA

Had to do ALOT of convincing

So I still could grow ability wise

[glass granite]

Quirks don’t exist tho…

Also you’d die in one hit anyway

[raw ocean]

Its essentially stealing natural abilites, senses, and etc

Alright, thanks for the thoughts

[glass granite]

Your proficiency bonus sucks, you can’t get feats, and this just seems really sketchy

[coarse ravine]

How do ya grow ability wise if you're stuck at level 5

Hulk eventually becomes Maestro because he keeps harnessing his abilities

The best you'll be able to do is aquire all the magic items you can get your hands on

[tender pier]

I wonder how am I going to make a Chaotic Neutral party that focuses on profits go after a secret organisation manipulating large parts of the world

[coarse ravine]

Oil

Gotta have the secret organisation or location have access to money or value.

[tender pier]

Hmmmm.... fair point

[void relic]

Lol

[stray sage]

how exactly would you imagine someone who uses quarterstaves one handed?

[glass granite]

Wdym

You can use quarterstaves one handed

[void relic]

Very strong arm, idk

[stray sage]

its just when i imagine someone who uses quarterstaves i imagine that they are two handed, so just wondering if its IRL possible to use quarterstaves one handed

[glass granite]

I believe so yeah

[hot gate]

They have the versatile property, so you can choose.

[glass granite]

Not an expert tho, but I’m fairly sure they can be used one handed irl

[coarse ravine]

Master roshi

Wasn't that a quarterstaff?

[stray sage]

i think that counts yeah

[humble cairn]

It is, but real life weapon techniques really don't have much bearing on D&D.

[stray sage]

fair

[humble cairn]

The staff form I trained in mostly used it two handed but there were certain maneuvers that would extend it out with one hand for more reach.

[stray sage]

does web stack with Rimes binding ice?

[humble cairn]

This is more a #dnd-rules question. Web gives the Restrained condition, Rime's Binding Ice reduces their speed to 0. Restrained also reduces Speed to 0. It's a bit redundant. Restrained is more powerful, though, since it also makes it so they have Disadv on attacks and others have Adv on attacks against them.

[inner silo]

Having both still could be nice though i think

Especially if you're already concentrating on something Rime's Binding Ice could be great

[gilded jungle]

Guys important question, what is the best spell?

[inner silo]

Obviously dragons breath

[inner silo]

But if actually being real, it's probably suggestion or prestidigitation

[gilded jungle]

Hmmm I see why you’d pick that but

[knotty pasture]

Silvery Barbs

[gilded jungle]

We all know that fireball is the best

Just don’t think about it and blast everything away

All your worried gone

[inner silo]

Lightning Bolt is more aura imo even if it's a bit more niche

[gilded jungle]

No bc if you fireball yourself and just stand there aurafarming

[glass granite]

Counterspell

[inner silo]

You'd have to either get blasted then or have to be ducking out of the way which is -aura since it's your own spell

[gilded jungle]

Fire ball again

[knotty pasture]

Counterspell again

[inner silo]

That's only useful when fighting a spellcaster though

[gilded jungle]

Fire ball

[glass granite]

I punch the rest

[knotty pasture]

Eh even then you need at least one source of counterspell in your team

[inner silo]

Maybe it's just a thing with my campaign but I've only faced 1 spellcaster in the first session essentially

[knotty pasture]

Its too essential towards your team's health

[inner silo]

As well as detect magic

[knotty pasture]

More or less there's a lot of utility spells that's a must no matter the campaign

[inner silo]

So actually the strongest spell is unarmed strike?

[knotty pasture]

Silvery Barbs be barbing though

[gilded jungle]

Fire ball too- kill your enemies before they harm

[inner silo]

Fr

[knotty pasture]

I would even add Haste onto the list of essentials if your team has a martial

[inner silo]

Btw can telekinetic be used on the user?

[gilded jungle]

Depends on dm, id allow it tbf

[inner silo]

Is sleet storm also good or is grabbing something like slow just better?

[gilded jungle]

But I don’t think so

[inner silo]

I see, I'll ask about it when i need to run away then

[fiery nimbus]

Add in "Summon Greater Demon" because you can't go wrong with it

[inner silo]

And dragons breath to make your fighter feel even more powerful

[knotty pasture]

Sleet Storm is decent

[inner silo]

Or your summon, or your peasant friend

[fiery nimbus]

why have a fighter if you can summon a demon instead?

[inner silo]

Is it making the area heavily obscured not too big a hindrance?

[gilded jungle]

Tbf

[inner silo]

Can a demon teach you how to rapier?

Without taking your soul btw

[fiery nimbus]

Yes

[knotty pasture]

Just have your martials guard the edge of Sleet Storm so you can push them back into it

[fiery nimbus]

on top of that demons summoned from Summon Greater Demons are usually much chunkier than regular summons while still retaining the damage

[gilded jungle]

Guys my sister is casting heat metal on a strange device and straightening my hair

[inner silo]

Alrighty

[inner silo]

Can they charm your enemies though

[inner silo]

How much fire damage have you already took

[fiery nimbus]

also yes

[humble cairn]

The best spell is the spell that solves the problem your character is currently facing.

[inner silo]

Dam, I wouldn't want them then, charm spells are very unethical

[inner silo]

So wish?

[fiery nimbus]

im pretty sure your fighter can also charm people

[humble cairn]

I mean that's probably correct in most cases.

[inner silo]

With that charisma they can't

[knotty pasture]

The moment you have wish is when you can break your game of dnd so

[fiery nimbus]

but with those buns they sure can

[inner silo]

Unless your dm is petty

[fiery nimbus]

That is not how wish spell works and you know it

[inner silo]

What buns? They've never even cooked anything i don't think

[inner silo]

Wish does what you wish for

[fiery nimbus]

no, wish does what is written in the spell description

[inner silo]

You may wish for something not included in any of the other effects. To do so, state your wish to the DM as precisely as possible.

[knotty pasture]

Usually too unreliable, just do what the second line says

"The basic use of this spell is to duplicate any other spell of 8th level or lower. You don't need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect."

Clone or Simulacrum break the game easily

[fiery nimbus]

yes, but DM can't fail your wish to copy a spell effect

[glass granite]

Well, the DM can do anything

[inner silo]

And?

[inner silo]

Depends on your dm

And how wild your wish is

[knotty pasture]

Outside of nerfing Simulacrum there's no stopping it

Clone too to a lesser extent

[fiery nimbus]

you can always end the campaign before they gain access to the spell
or kill the wizard
OR TALK TO THEM LIKE A HUMAN BEING

[knotty pasture]

But breaking economies is fun

[inner silo]

Of course you talk to them before making crazy wishes

[fiery nimbus]

i was talking about Simulacrum

Wish is not breaking a thing

unless used to cast Simulacrum

[knotty pasture]

That is exactly what makes Wish funny cuz Simulacrum on its own doesn't necessarily break the game

[reef tundra]

Is it just me or are revenants strangely weak? Like, for a creature so ruthless and hard to kill, CR 5 feels very low, especially considering to destroy it forever you need a spell that clerics only get at level 9 and paladins at level 17

Like, at those levels, a revenant would just be a minor inconvenience

I know there are stronger variants, but they just don't feel the same as the original revenant

[hot gate]

You're not really meant to fight it at those levels.

It's terrifying precisely because you can't get permanently rid of it in lower levels.

[reef tundra]

I just feel like it's not as satisfying when you finally reach the level you could get rid of it permanently.

Because you can just destroy it easily then cast the spell to make it gone forever

[hot gate]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. So don't.

[reef tundra]

But that just forces only one way to get rid of them forever, trying to get them to let go of the vengeance that animates them

[hot gate]

Or trying to get out of their way regularly, defeating them when they catch up.

It's a great setup for a minor recurring antagonist.

[reef tundra]

But that's literally just a tier 1 exclusive experience, i just feel like for their lore they should be more powerful

[reef tundra]

But you can outgrow them so quickly

[hot gate]

I'd say that very much depends on your group.

[reef tundra]

I suppose I could have the revenant reanimate as the other stronger variants

Or I can homebrew a variant that's gotten stronger after many resurrections

[keen valve]

You can never outgrow skeletor.

By which I mean if you make them memorable, then you can have a pretty cool thing go on.

Might get rid of your fear that they'll be boring.

[reef tundra]

I do quite like the house variant though

[gaunt roost]

Question about circle magic. Prolong (No doubt the most powerful option) requires secondary caster to expend a spellslot. But doesnt specify what level.
Does that mean that if the Primary caster casts for example sunbeam, a 6th level spell, the secondary caster can be a level 1 bard that spends 1 level 1 spellslot and now you get to shoot the sun out of your eyes for an hour?
Or would the secondary caster need to spend an appropriate spellslot?

[fiery nimbus]

aye they are fairly weak, but they tend to come back
and have a horrible timing

long rest before the big enemy? Revenant
Up against an army? Revenant
On a Toilet without toilet paper? Believe it or not... Revenant

[reef tundra]

Actually, you have a point. I could have a revenant show up mid-battle

[reef tundra]

Those too

[reef tundra]

Akin to Shrike from mortal engines

[fiery nimbus]

I mean, imagine fighting revenant when he literally got you with your pants down

also they do work typically better if players are not walking around permanently in full battle preparation

[reef tundra]

Hmm, good advice

[gaunt roost]

Also dont forget that revenants can technically inhabit any humanoid dead body, so a particularly villainous revenant could wait until their target of hate is fighting a group of orcs or something and steal one of the bodies midbattle and cause the group to think its "just a very wounded orc" that suddenly seems more intimidating to just that one person...

Suddenly the 22 HP orc is tanking a hundred more damage. While there are still more orcs. Help

[reef tundra]

Hmmm, I should experiment more with revenants. Ty

[cinder timber]

literally? 🤨

[glass granite]

Yes, literally

[fiery nimbus]

yes, on average people poop with their pants down with the exception of seeing party's barbarian on the other side of the battlefield

[cinder timber]

oh, that is quite terrifying then

[fiery nimbus]

Pooping? no its quite natural actually

[cinder timber]

depends what you eat

[fiery nimbus]

Don't think they printed rules for that one yet

[cinder timber]

oh, yeah, it's more of a homebrew thing

[dawn bay]

Are there any in person campaigns or meetups to play DnD that I can find?

[rose zealot]

How morally ethical is it to stay in a campaign after it's ended purely for the books on DND beyond instead of paying 30$ per book

[hot gate]

I mean as long as the person sharing / DMing that campaign doesn't kick your character out to make space I wouldn't personally mind

[rose zealot]

I asked permission lol and he said it was ok, I just wanted to ask the community to see if it was frowned upon or not

[ivory shale]

Hello is it weird for a dm to disallow clerics from wearing armor because they think ", it's weird for the healer to wear armor".?

[cinder timber]

Yeah, imo

[ivory shale]

I think so too

How to suggest it to them?

[upper junco]

any player should be allowed to wear armour imo

[cinder timber]

The class gives you armor proficiencies. It's that simple, you're like a holy warrior priest

[ivory shale]

They said theyre homrbrewing his game to not allow that.

Their reason is priests irl doesn't wear armor

[cinder timber]

Priests don't go fighting irl either

[upper junco]

what about bards then

[cinder timber]

And, would you be getting something in return for not being able to wear armor?

[ivory shale]

They didn't say

[ivory shale]

They didn't say anything about bards either

[shy stirrup]

not in D&D it isn't, clerics have worn heavy armour in this game for 50 years; which doesn't mean to say a DM can't ignore that in favour of some in-world explanation as to why not, tho a narrative choice like this obviously comes with balancing issues

[upper junco]

is it just for the clerics then?

[shy stirrup]

"Healers don't wear armor" as if they've just come back from playing a Holy Priest in World of Warcraft

[upper junco]

if the dm is going for 'realism' a ton of other classes wouldn't wear armour either

PCs should be able to pick if they want to wear armour or not but thats just my opinion
granted i play barbarian 90% of the time so i don't wear any armour anyways,
but

[jovial badger]

clerics wear armor?

(laughs in monk and barbarian)

[upper junco]

unarmoured defense will forever be my goat

[jovial badger]

naw i cant wear much armor either i cant cast unless im proficient in armor

[jovial badger]

monks are so crazy at level 2 like i have this aarakocra monk that i let my friend play and he was dominating

solod an ankheg at lvl2

[upper junco]

thats crazy lol,

[jovial badger]

barbarians are crazy too

what race do you like to play with barbarians?

[lethal otter]

Good afternoon. How are yall

[ivory shale]

Probably

[upper junco]

last campaign i had a reborn character this campain im doing locathah meaning i get an enxtra +2 in strength and a +1 in dex

[ivory shale]

This was in an old game i played

[upper junco]

one of the people im playing with has a druid character with the shape water cantrip so water isnt a problem

[jovial badger]

my personal fav barbarian race is variant human cause you get the feat at lvl1 so you can grab great weapon master