dnd-discussion

[raw ocean]

And my health was at -267 from what I saw

That's with me giving up on calculating some of the damage

"A called shot to the head leaves the target stunned for 1 round. If a creature has more than one head, it instead suffers disadvantage on its next action on its turn."

[shy stirrup]

Oh, so targeted shots too eh?

[raw ocean]

Basically spammed that for every one of their turns

But with a +14 to hit, even at disadvantage, its basically a gauranteed stun

[knotty basin]

Not even a tarresque has that much + to hit

[valid geyser]

Yeah this is why called shots don’t exist in normal fifth edition. They can and almost always will be too strong to not use

[raw ocean]

btw did I mention she can shoot through walls once a day

[valid geyser]

I mean by tier 4 a character absolutely can be that accurate

[raw ocean]

THROUGH WALLS, LITERAL WALL HACKS

[shy stirrup]

lol.

[raw ocean]

We may be tier 4 but an inf stun attack that does 61 damage per turn is just, a bit much

[shy stirrup]

So I guess the question on everyone's mind is, why are you staying?

[crimson gulch]

I don't even know what game your playing at this point

[raw ocean]

The campaign has 2 parts, one where we are now, and the next one after a 500 year time skip where our characters influnced the world

I just never got into a campaign that last this long before so I guess I just dont want to end it and begin the month long search for a new one

[shy stirrup]

Sunk cost fallacy?

[raw ocean]

Yeah basically

[crimson gulch]

Yeha finding a game sucks, that's why I became a dm so I can play whenever I want

[raw ocean]

Im going to be honest, it's so hard to find a campaign that either stays on for long or the players are normal people

I do NOT need a trauma dump on session 0 🥀

I guess ill start searching for a new game on sundays

[shy stirrup]

I wish you the best of luck if you do

[eternal spoke]

Favorite song to play/listen while playing

[tough sandal]

We both share mutual perspectives. For that, I tive you a firm shakehand. 🤝

[glass granite]

For this new frenship, me give cookie

[tough sandal]

I started as a GM because I always came from the perspective that I would be solely responsible for setting up the game

[buoyant oar]

Dungeonsynth

[tough sandal]

It just kinda stuck from there, and I do not prefer to be a player.

[buoyant oar]

DMing is just better

[tepid creek]

Control freaks and lore master's love being a DM's and im both

[tough sandal]

I want to give people a good time. I want to make connections with cool guys, gals and everyone outside and in-between that spectrum.

[crimson gulch]

I just had such limited free time that I knew I needed to control the shedual

[tepid creek]

Do your best.

[crimson gulch]

And it magicaly turned into a full time job

[tough sandal]

I am a lore junkie, and you will give me roughly 2 paragraphs or more backstory content so I can be your biggest fan.

[copper ivy]

Happy Thanksgiving 🦃

[tough sandal]

Tomorrow, it will mark four years since that decision.

[crimson gulch]

I'm no lore junky, it's there to use when needed

But I'm an action junkey, let's see those dice fly and hp dwindle

[tough sandal]

I got my starter set + essentials kit on Black Friday 2021. 'u'

History was made with that one act.

[crimson gulch]

I tried getting into the game in 2001. But never actually played until my wife got me into it in 2021

[raw ocean]

Most unique character you have ever played with or was in a party with?

[shy stirrup]

A Halfling named Brodo Fraggins
Completely original, I assure you

[jovial wing]

Tide the Gnarly embassador

[stoic obsidian]

Can it be current?

[raw ocean]

Yes

[umbral girder]

A Stars Druid with a very fast walking speed.

He was the Original Star Druid.

[raw ocean]

Basically anything you have EVER played or seen

[clear lark]

Bruce Leigh, Monk. Also completely original

[crimson gulch]

Drihilith the lizardfolk gourmand fighter

[raw ocean]

Most unique I have ever seen is an albino kenku cleric with a meteor hammer as a weapon and listened to so many magical recordings he could speak perfectly fine

Audiophile Bird

[stoic obsidian]

Rozin Holassy Haregon Bladesinger, was an actor until a building fire killed friend, and cause her to not be able to perform anymore, and her husband died to bandits, then when her son turn 18 and left home cause her to be more depressed, but two years later she received an amulet of health in a package from her son so she can finally complete the goals she and her friend wanted to do, so she set off for adventure

Does it sound original enough?

[raw ocean]

In my opinon yes, I rarely see characters that actually have living family members

Especially the actor part

[stoic obsidian]

People should include living family in their characters more

[raw ocean]

If I see one more "My entire family died to insert villain" im gonna shed a tear

Please, can we have a reason for revenge other than familial murder?

[rugged hawk]

Okay, I want revenge for assaulting my shadow with your footsteps.

[shy stirrup]

The Tragic Backstory™

[rugged hawk]

How dare you

[raw ocean]

I want revenge because you sabotaged my path as a knight of the Empire out of your own greed, betraying me for a position. I will return for my revenge and expose how you exploited the system.

See, it's that easy everyone

Don't gotta kill people for revenge

[rugged hawk]

Okay, or you could just be a normal person and hate gnomes for being gnomes

[raw ocean]

All of my characters hate illithids

[rugged hawk]

Filthy gnomeses, they likes the turnips

[raw ocean]

"Oh but you shouldn't let your personal opinions bleed into your characters!" SILENCE, THOSE PEARL SUCKERS CAN BURN

[tame estuary]

?

[raw ocean]

Only races I don't like are the emotionless ones without common sense

[jovial wing]

Lmao pearl suckers

[vast pelican]

My current elf wizard made the decision to have kids with a human when he was young. 500 years later he has over a hundred living family members and several times more dead ones.

[valid geyser]

I’m playing a rogue who’s in his late fourties, he should have adult children running around but that hasn’t come up in game really

[rugged hawk]

Grrrr. What good is Darkvision spell under the sea when its material component is a DRIED CARROT?!

[raw ocean]

LMAO

[rugged hawk]

How am I supposed to have DRIED carrots under the sea?!

[raw ocean]

idk maybe in a jar?

[valid geyser]

I mean if it’s put in water it doesn’t immediately rehydrate

[raw ocean]

oh wait the jar would crack under the pressure if your deep enough

[valid geyser]

What’s the magic equivalent of a vaccum sealed bag?

[rugged hawk]

Bag of Holding?

[raw ocean]

Wait, would water rush into a bag of holding?

[rugged hawk]

Yes,

[raw ocean]

You cant like, water seal a bag right?

[valid geyser]

If opened, it might

[rugged hawk]

The moment you open the bag to grab the carrot, water would rush into it, yeah

[raw ocean]

Can you water seal a bag of holding?

Wouldn't it rush in the second it dips into water?

Or does the portal close when you close the top

[tame estuary]

think of the bag of holding as just bigger on the inside

it's not actually a black hole that sucks up everything near it

[raw ocean]

Ah so if you drop your bag of holding inside of some water, its gonna get aton of water in it no matter what you do

[tame estuary]

you can pick it back up

[glass granite]

TARDIS bag

[tame estuary]

"no matter what you do" smh

[rugged hawk]

Actually, hold on - you'd break a bag of holding by opening it underwater. Because it can only hold 500 lbs.... and the interior of a bag of holding holds a LOT more than 500 lbs worth of water.

[valid geyser]

I guess if you’re underwater a waterlogged bag doesn’t matter much

It’s not like it breaks holding 500 lbs of air

[raw ocean]

So bag of holding breaks very quickly if put in water?

[tame estuary]

the bag of holding won't carry more than it can carry

[rugged hawk]

Uh, I do know one way to break them is to put more in than it can carry

[raw ocean]

Oh so its like digging in terraria, your gonna dig and have your entire inventory be dirt

[tame estuary]

I feel like I'm being gaslit

[rugged hawk]

That's my line

[tame estuary]

anyhow, the bag of holding won't suck up more water than it's expected to carry as if it's a container that can hold it

[raw ocean]

The D&D discord is constantly gas lighting without even knowing it, someone told me that TINKER BELL wasen't a tinkerer yesterday

[rugged hawk]

If the bag is overloaded, pierced, or torn, it is destroyed, and its contents are scattered in the Astral Plane.

OVERLOADED. By opening it underwater.

[atomic kayak]

Pretty sure you have to intentionally put stuff into a bag. Which simply opening it is not

[raw ocean]

I mean like, can't you only overload it by forcing stuff into it?

[rugged hawk]

Lemme check how heavy 2 feet by 2 feet by 4 feet worth of water is

[raw ocean]

If it fills up with water it will just go to max, but if you try putting more in after the water it breaks

[tame estuary]

yes

[raw ocean]

So hypothetically, if a PC goes into water for an item [only reason really why they would be diving other than combat], they would most likely break the bag by taking loot

[rugged hawk]

Lessee.... okay, a single cubic foot of water is 62.4 lbs. 2x2x4 is uhhh.... 16x 62.4..... which is....

[tame estuary]

filling a bag of holding with water can make a fun water balloon though

[rugged hawk]

...998 lbs.

[valid geyser]

I mean if we wanted to be really physical it would always rupture if filled with air but it doesn’t

I feel like if you’re surrounded by water it shouldn’t rupture if opened, but that’s just my hunch

[tame estuary]

well it's not filled with 500lbs of air isn't it?

[rugged hawk]

So opening your Bag of Holding underwater would instantly fill it with 900+ lbs of water, destroying the BoH

[tame estuary]

if it is filled with 500lbs of air that thing will make a very powerful explosion

[atomic kayak]

pretty sure you have to intentionally put stuff in the bag. just opening it wouldn't do it. Same way that just opening it and turning it upside down doesn't empty it - you specifically have to invert it

[valid geyser]

Yeah maybe I’m thinking too much of mass rather than weight

[rugged hawk]

No, because the air inside is at normal pressure and minimal weight

[stoic obsidian]

I could make a gnome that doesn’t want to be a gnome

[rugged hawk]

Thats every sane gnome

There aren't any sane gnomes

[stoic obsidian]

Or a gnome that just makes cakes

Is a rogue with poisoner kit

[fast latch]

Would the Rune Carver's Fire Rune stack with Expertise for a 4x bonus?

[stoic obsidian]

Or was a delivery boy/gal that can get a package into your house without you noticing

[serene lily]

Free dice!
https://www.dndbeyond.com/claim/dice/legends-of-greyhawk

[glass granite]

Yay

[rugged hawk]

Ah yes, the classic deathtrap: gain gills for an hour..... but only as long as you maintain concentration.

That's just begging to get drowned by distraction

[stoic obsidian]

Name a random class

[rugged hawk]

Edward

[eager marsh]

science

[stoic obsidian]

I walk into that one

Okay name a random dnd class

[rugged hawk]

a random dnd class

[stoic obsidian]

Don’t make me do it

[rugged hawk]

How Not To Be A Tragically Orphaned Rogue 101

[eager marsh]

potions class in Halasters Definitely-Not-Hogwarts

[stoic obsidian]

Simply be a handy man that sued for mixing in rat poison into a bar beers while on the job, and now you have to make up the money or go to jail

[old sluice]

Beholder reproduction 101

Animal Husbandry techniques applied to Otylughs

[stoic obsidian]

Ranger is great, and stop complaining about hunter mark

[rugged hawk]

That's easy, they self-reproduce internally, then expel their organ out their mouth and bite it off, then kill any offspring that don't resemble them the most.

[stoic obsidian]

Good title for a book

[old sluice]

Kobold Demographics. It's a class you have to take if you plan on working on sewer maintenance

[rugged hawk]

Btw, we decided Bags of Holding burst from overload if you open them underwater

because 2x2x4 feet of water is 998 lbs

[old sluice]

Of course they don't. Bags of Holding only take stuff if you deliberately put it in. Just opening the bag does nothing

[rugged hawk]

Water pressure deliberately fills the empty void

[old sluice]

Water pressure is not a creature deliberately putting stuff in the bag

[rugged hawk]

[old sluice]

Although, yeah, if it worked like that, the bag would just explode

Thankfully it does not.

Otherwise you could just recreate the ending of portal 2 whenever

[eager marsh]

Physics doesnt interact with magic they're right

[rugged hawk]

Also, whoever came up with Darkvision's material component being a DRIED carrot can suck eggs.

How tf am I supposed to cast it underwater?!

[eager marsh]

arcane focus nerd

[old sluice]

By using a focus

Otherwise, yeah, you're screwed. There are actually plenty of other spells whose material components would be unusable in certain circumstances

[rugged hawk]

Wait, what's an arcane focus do?

[eager marsh]

replace material components without a gold cost listed. reading the rules helps

[rugged hawk]

It would help, yeah, but I'm lazy and came from 3.5

[old sluice]

It replaces material components as long as the component does not have a gold cost and isn't consumed. Provided your class comes with the feature that allows you to use a focus

[eager marsh]

3.5 was so much reading that you should already be conditioned to read every rule and niche interaction then

[rugged hawk]

You mean that I should be thoroughly traumatized. Which I am.

[old sluice]

Ideally you want both a component pouch and an arcane focus. Safety in redundancy

[eager marsh]

correct. Now get to reading

[old sluice]

Worth noting: If you are, say, a rogue, you don't get a choice. You have to use material components for the spells you got from your species or feats.

No foci for you.

[rugged hawk]

COncentration spells suck eggs So many spells that COULD be great

[eager marsh]

The creation of concentration was intended to prevent the insanity of 3.5 having so many spells running simultaneously but instead they just created a case of 'this spell isnt worth casting over xyz because of concentration'

[old sluice]

I've yet to see a single spell that's unusable because of concentration

[eager marsh]

i didnt say 'unusuable'

[rugged hawk]

Alter Self.
Concentration up to one hour.
Aquatic Adaptation. You sprout gills and grow webs between your fingers. You can breathe underwater and gain a Swim Speed equal to your Speed.

This is a deathtrap, a single distraction and now you've drowned.

[old sluice]

While I understand your concerns about dropping concentration and drowning, have you considered the possibility that you might be able to swim to the surface or cast it again before you drown?

[rugged hawk]

Yes, let me just recast it using my already-used single L2 slot while I'm twenty minutes below the damn surface, that'll totally save me. 😠

[old sluice]

Yes, it will. Also, why are you so deep beneath the surface?

[valid geyser]

It wouldve been neat if there was like, some kind of more complex concentration system, something like having 3 points worth of concentration and spells costed X points total, and maybe upcasting some spells lowered the total. Might be a little weird but hope fyi on that idea made sense

[old sluice]

That spell is not meant for underwater journeys like that

[eager marsh]

it's strictly worse than having a ritual for water breathing ready at any point. I genuinely do not think Alter Self is a spell good enough to require concentration

[rugged hawk]

Then what good is it?!

[old sluice]

For crossing lakes. For crossing underwater passes.

Not for being twenty minutes away from the surface, that's incredibly deep

[rugged hawk]

[eager marsh]

The objectively best use of Alter Self is being better disguise self since it physically changes you. I still dont think it should be concentration

[old sluice]

Twenty minutes away from the surface is, assuming average swimming speed, 300 meters. That's submarine depth

[eager marsh]

you dont have 20 minutes to avoid drowning actually. That much con isnt even possible

[old sluice]

In fact, even if you had an oxygen bottle, in real life, you would die from the bends if you tried to ascend this distance in twenty minutes

[sleek cloud]

The real objectively best use of alter self is to cast it and dress up as one of your party members and perform various humorous but hopefully inconsequential acts

[meager fractal]

can you grow wings that let you fly with alter self?

[eager marsh]

average spellcaster has 3 minutes

[eager marsh]

You cannot, no

[rugged hawk]

You know those shapeshifting Dopplegangers, right? Well, you've just inspired a great brand-new dating app, DoppleBANGERS! Matches are made based on people who look the most like each other. 👀

[old sluice]

Water breathing is indeed a better spell. But here's a trick: Alter self is your panic option.

If someone dispels your water breathing, you can fall back on that

[rugged hawk]

Pretty sure you can't concentrate when panicked

[old sluice]

Very funny

[meager fractal]

what subclasses allow you to teleport a weapon to your hand? Just EK?

[clear lark]

EK?

[sleek cloud]

Eldritch knight

[rugged hawk]

Or you could just cast Enspelled Armament

[sleek cloud]

Any pact of the blade warlock can

[meager fractal]

ah yes forgot about those dang warlocks

[rugged hawk]

Or, again, you could just cast Enspelled Armament as any arcane caster.

It even uses your casting proficiency instead of STR or DEX

[meager fractal]

i dunno what that is

[sleek cloud]

I think giant barbarian gets their thrown weapons back too

[rugged hawk]

When you cast this spell, choose one Simple or Martial weapon. A replica of the chosen weapon, made of iridescent energy, appears in your hands. For the duration, you are proficient with that weapon and whenever you attack with the weapon, you can use your spellcasting ability modifier for the attack and damage rolls instead of using Strength or Dexterity. Attacks made with this weapon don’t require ammunition, and if you throw the weapon as part of a ranged attack, it returns to your hand immediately after resolving the attack. The damage dealt by this weapon is Force instead of the weapon’s normal damage type.

Also, it lasts for an hour.

[eager marsh]

that doesnt sound official

[rugged hawk]

Source:

Grim Hollow: Player’s Guide, pg. 191

[meager fractal]

is that from the new faerun book?

[valid geyser]

Oh yeah that’s third party

[eager marsh]

Yea 3rd party means its not available to 99% of tables

[rugged hawk]

DM issue

[tame estuary]

?

[eager marsh]

Not really. You cannot and should not ever assume 3rd party content will be permitted at a table

[rugged hawk]

Not what I meant.

[eager marsh]

It's not an 'issue' either.

[tame estuary]

I mean if you really want it, it's the shadow blade spell

[meager fractal]

just tryna think up cool scenes for my next game

[tame estuary]

but I think it's only for wizards and sorcerers?

[valid geyser]

I guess it’s mostly just “you need DM permission and most DMs might be wary of either allowing books they haven’t read or would wanna stick to official ones”

[tired harbor]

Well a lot third party stuff simply isn’t balanced properly

[fallen light]

Path of the Giant barbarian at 6th level

[tired harbor]

Like gun slinger is significantly stronger than other martials levels 1-9. And some of the sub classes are crazy strong and some are more in line.
But fun slinger is a front loaded class in power.

Some classes are too weak, some are too strong etc.
Usually official content is around the same power level.
Sometimes things are stronger or weaker but it’s not as bad as unofficial content

[sleek cloud]

funslinger

[eager marsh]

Blood Hunter suffering daily

[tired harbor]

Blood Hunter I just don’t think is that good lol

[eager marsh]

It's not thats what I meant

[tired harbor]

Oh gotcha.

I don’t personally allow third party or homebrew at my table cuz I don’t like having to discuss balance with my players. I don’t want an argument about “I like this over powered feature” or “can we buff this. It’s under powered”

I tried and it never ended feeling like either of us were happy

[unreal rock]

I've been trawling through all the bookstores in town for the last week for a Bigby reprint with the new art, and frankly I'm wondering if it even exists.

[tough sandal]

Yeah, I can tell you for certain on how time-consuming homebrew can be.
Me and the Fighter of my Faerun campaign worked closely together to make custom runes for Rune Knight because he was unhappy with the subclass.

It took a LONG WHILE to make things that weren't redundant, and didn't overshadow other class features.

[fossil hollow]

welp. My waterdeep players are homeowners now. Cant wait for them to turn into the HoA. Gotta uphold the Waterdeep Menaces title

[tough sandal]

We're all happy at the table; he's really shined as a character.
It took a lot of discussion and patience to get everything through.

[tough sandal]

How much money did it cost to purchase a home in waterdeep?

[wind dawn]

Howdy everyone!

[tough sandal]

Meowdy.

[fossil hollow]

they got it from Volo

[snow agate]

would you rather be a sorcerer or a wizard?

[tough sandal]

... oh no.

[eager marsh]

Wizard

[tired harbor]

I started a goblin gang, a protest against volo being racist to goblins, a union for women of the night in my water deep game as a player 💀

[snow agate]

why

[eager marsh]

Strictly better spell list in every way. Sorcerer cant even cast Find Familiar

[tough sandal]

Gods help your party, Ti.

[snow agate]

makes sense

[fossil hollow]

they made friends with the poltergeist in it :3

[tired harbor]

Yeah, it’s too much work for me. So I level with the player and tell them I think it’s too much work lol

[tough sandal]

Boundary-setting, love to see it.

[tired harbor]

Sorcerer has as good a spell list imo until 7th level spells: 7th and 8th level spell list for sorcerer is abysmal

[tired harbor]

I give out feats as quest rewards and give custom magic items tho lol

[tough sandal]

Boons, Blessings, and Custom Items are fun to make.

I recently ascended two players' magic items for our Feywilds arc.

[tired harbor]

That’s awesome. I am working on custom artifacts for a campaign I am writing right now lol

[empty thicket]

yep, sadly my Dm dont let me make upgraded arrows or stuff like that. An arrow made with better materials or a different arrow head.
But i found one book about brews and items so good... but its behind a pay wall

[eager marsh]

The spell list is a square to Wizard's rectangle. Wizard has access to everything a sorcerer has and more. Plus better options for knowing and changing spells

[meager fractal]

Three swords each with a powerful dragon bound within. Gathering them together is key to a prophecy about Sardior's return. A lot of people's lives are at stake.

[raw ocean]

Pull the good ol "I tie this dangerous item to my arrow"

I once got scammed and lit a casino on fire by firing long-range arrows with clothes dipped in alcohol that were lit

[tough sandal]

Mace of Smiting -> The Rat Redeemer (Neverwinter Arc). Allows the Cleric can summon a swarm of spectral rats or The Rat King's Spirit for extra boons.
Luminous War Pick -> The Killing Joke (Snowflake Arc, Feywilds Arc). Ascended by the Trickster Giant God Memnor and later the Feywilds' magic. Further improving the Rune Knight's rune toolbelt.
Cauldron of Rebirth -> Cauldron of Eternity (Feywilds Arc). Allows the Necromancer to take control of creatures just after death (yes, their stat blocks with some restrictions).

[empty thicket]

My idea is just making the +1 arrow more accessible because holy canneloni, its expensive and is just +1 damage in bow.
Not even my forte thing to the point im considerating taking Throwing weapons and throw daggers

[raw ocean]

30 Boomerangs

[empty thicket]

throwing 2 daggers per turn or 3 if the bard buff me seems comfortable, would see if the artificer can make me a belt that can apply poison to them

[empty thicket]

Im not going broke brosky, i already traded an alchemist jug for like 25 gold and a debt of 30.

[pliant crow]

guys, asking as noob, but i have a curios question
how "legit" is the blood hunter class and will it often be denied for use by DMs?

[tough sandal]

Recently, the Warlock died.
If he is allowed to resurrect (currently undergoing a trial), his magic item and narrative arc will begin.

[raw ocean]

Just carve them out of wood

boomerangs gotta be the easiest thing to carve ever

[minor lake]

The trial idea is really cool

[empty thicket]

Yeah but im a fighter, im busy training and building stuff such like poison arrows, molotovs, etc. etc.

[tough sandal]

It'll probably start as an Enspelled Staff or Rod od the Pact Keeper attached to his new Prosthetic Arm, I already know the magic item's name will be "The Other Promise"

[raw ocean]

Just hire an quartermaster

[empty thicket]

If i get my hands in a Forge and some materials, i will ask teh DM if it let me get some blacksmith training in some way or something like that

sadly in DND the metals are....kinda shitty

[raw ocean]

You do you, I just hire people to do boring stuff for me [my character's rich]

Skilled workers get paid around 2 gold a day

[empty thicket]

Bro, im a fighter, my money had to go to equipment or resources such like med kits, food, etc. etc.
I am already in low money because our boss didnt paid us last mission

and next session we are going to an island to see some fishy problems

[tough sandal]

His character is being judged in the "Darkness Beyond" by the PC's previous character, who is a "guide" for the darkness.
He went through other character's backstories unknown to the living world. The players know what's going on, and still had ample opportunities in the previous session to roleplay during these trials.

[empty thicket]

Silver weapons are expensive
Adamantine dont do something giga special unless the DM let me break items
Mithril would make the arrows lighter so faster and would reach longer
....What other ores or minerals are in DND official? oricalqe, ebano and other stuff are from skyrim but idk if they are in DnD

[fossil hollow]

they used to have a lot more materials

Cold Steel, Hellfire, etc

to name a few of them

oh wait, hellfire is in 5e

[tired harbor]

Yeah but the sorcerer can cast them all better

[eager marsh]

'better' is debatable. Also still hard locked behind a significantly worse spell list. Also every life qol spell is almost always wizard only.

[tired harbor]

Those are cool

[lavish flame]

Darksteel or Blacksteel weapons used to exist. IIRC they would absorb blood made by the weapon and prevent a victim's shouts from being heard.

It was an assassin's metal

[fossil hollow]

I remember an assassin using something like that in a Saltmarsh game

but i think that was a liquid

[empty thicket]

welp, they can cast it with extra effects, change the element, etc. etc.
They can adapt the spells while Wizard have just Tons of spells.
Sorc needed something to catalize the spells? i dont remember

[empty thicket]

mmmm.... steels seem nice. I just would like some extra materials for doing stuff such like a heavier armor with an effect or a metal that can let me have less problems with spells

[tired harbor]

I don’t think it would be a convincing debate. But I guess

[tired harbor]

They all have spell focuses,
But yeah they still need material complements.

[eager marsh]

Sorcerer can't cast Galder's Swag Tower. I rest my case.

[raw ocean]

Bouta buy 2 dogs and true polymorph them into steel predators (CR 16), My DM is gonna love me

[tired harbor]

They don’t get most of the best spells. That’s true

[empty thicket]

yeah but im reading, sorc dont need a "thing" for cast his spells beside the obviously components for some

[tired harbor]

Oh no you die. Oh no

[tired harbor]

Oh yeah

[eager marsh]

That's true for all casters still.

[raw ocean]

All of my pets have died, I REFUSE to let these ones die

[tired harbor]

Wizards need their book to change spells tho

[lavish flame]

its like pokemon evolution

[tired harbor]

Your wizard can only know stuff they memorized without their book

[empty thicket]

yeah but its like, Wizard need the book and Warlock would use something to link to their patron

[eager marsh]

Sorcerer cant change their spells at all except 1 by 1 on level up

[old sluice]

Sounds like animal cruelty

[eager marsh]

Book isn't needed on hand to cast. Also Scribe Wizard Gang. my book is never missing

[old sluice]

I wouldn't want to be those dogs

[raw ocean]

Turning small pups into unstoppable killing machine pups?

• they are going to live at our party base

[tired harbor]

In the 2024 d and d I think sorcerers have an edge

[empty thicket]

true but you can change if you use your sorc points a spell like Fire ball into an Electric Ball if you want or an Ice ball

[eager marsh]

Sorcerers are actually good and worth playing in gameplay terms. But I interpreted the question as which class I'd want to personally be for real. Wizard offers me more functional long term benefits and options

[old sluice]

Turning animals whose instincts are to mark their territory, eat, play, cuddle, gently bite, into machines that can do none of that.

[tired harbor]

I would rather be a sorcerer irl. I don’t wanna study 😭

[eager marsh]

I can just have a different elemental spell in my book. Also Scribe Wizard being my goto means I do that free

[empty thicket]

you can ADAPT your spells in some ways
While Wizard can just get the spell taht need for it
Btw, sorc dont have proficiency even with light armors, ouchy.

[lavish flame]

also how exactly are you turning a dog into a CR 16 monster via True Poly? I'm aware of the "turn anything into an object, then turn that object into a CR 9 monster" exploit, but how would you do that to CR 16?

[old sluice]

They'll feel the absence of their heart beating. They'll try to lick their fur to clean themselves and find no fur and no tongue.

[eager marsh]

Yea ok Nepo baby

[tired harbor]

In reality I would probably be an entertainer who never gets to be a bard 💀

[old sluice]

Oh yeah also that doesn't work at all

[raw ocean]

You right, I should polymorph bugs

[old sluice]

That's even worse even if it was possible.

[raw ocean]

Either way some bug's dont even feel pain and their soul purpose is to die in 2 weeks

[old sluice]

Because this time they have no loyalty. They're suddenly at the size where you look like food

[eager marsh]

Besides, Wizards canonically invent almost every new spell (Otto excluded) so a wizard that cared could just invent a Fireball clone spell on a different element

[raw ocean]

You right, ill stick to turning people into stones and dropping them into rivers

[tired harbor]

I would poly morph on my animals into identical animals but without any genetic flaws

[lavish flame]

if you're doing Creature to Creature polymorphing, then you're limited by CR. They have to match or be lower for the new form to be allowed. A Dog is like... CR 1/8? Maybe 1/4? Idk how you'd turn that into anything substantial.

[old sluice]

That works

[raw ocean]

Pretty sure I can true polymorph creatures into any CR creature that meets my level

[empty thicket]

Its like

[old sluice]

Not your level. Their level

[lavish flame]

No, its bound by the target's CR or Level.

[raw ocean]

Oh, im dyslexic

[lavish flame]

Your level is irrelevant in the endeavor unless you're polymorphing yourself

[empty thicket]

Wizard have the whole toolbox
Sorc have the do everything tool
Warlock work extra hours.

[tired harbor]

Warlocks get to cast spells and then have to take a mandatory lunch break

[empty thicket]

Welp, they recharge spell slots in short rests

[raw ocean]

Looks like im coughing up the cash for an iron golem manual

[eager marsh]

Warlocks have a union mandated lunch break

[empty thicket]

while the other 2 spell casters can but doing other stuff

[lavish flame]

See now thats real

[empty thicket]

My party got a manual but a golem is so canneloni expensive that we cant get it yet

[eager marsh]

Iron Golems are in fact very good to have yes

[tired harbor]

Yeah the fiend patrons are pro union but only so they can bust them

[old sluice]

Why bother? Taking a golem on adventures is a liability. If it's about guarding your base, there are a lot of spells to make it borderline impregnable

[lavish flame]

waiting for the day I can get a Mithril and Adamantine Golem

[eager marsh]

I'd argue Fiend Patrons are the most trustworthy assuming devil type. They're contracts are to the letter. Archfey will screw you over

[empty thicket]

How much was the cheapest golem?

[eager marsh]

Iron Golem heals from fire damage, the most common damage type. Anytime you fireball the enemies you heal it

[old sluice]

You know fiend patrons can also be demons, yugoloths and many other kinds of fiend?

[empty thicket]

1k? 10k gold? i dont remember and i cant find the page for showing it

[old sluice]

Oh yeah that's a great point.

[eager marsh]

I said 'if devil type'. I would simply not make a deal with a demon over a devil

[lavish flame]

Flesh Golems at a brisk 50,000 GP

[old sluice]

I completely missed it. Need new eyes

I might have to wear glasses.

[empty thicket]

DAMN....

for just getting the materials or what?

like, i guess its at least worth the 50k of gp
I think a metal goler mas 100k isnt it?

[eager marsh]

You know you could sell your soul for those

[lavish flame]

thats an overall building cost, so thats supplies and construction

[raw ocean]

Iron 120 days 100,000 gp

[lavish flame]

Iron Golems are 100,000

[raw ocean]

And you need a very rare manual of golems

Quarter of a year and a fortune for one single CR 16 creature

[empty thicket]

yep, we have it but the DM know we dont have the money or resources for it

[lavish flame]

i should give out a manual of golems to my party

[raw ocean]

I have the money, just not the time in my campaign

[empty thicket]

Look, i have the idea of making such golem and give it to our boss so She can use it (We have like a Glados but Worker non homicidial version for boss that send us for missions)

[raw ocean]

because we go day by day with most of our sessions, its gonna take like 120 sessions

[lavish flame]

I go day by day, so itd take a while. Travelling is the bulk of adventuring tho. My group has done ~4 in-universe months of adventuring in a year of real time. If they had started constructing an Iron Golem in session 1, they'd just get around to finishing it about now.

[empty thicket]

welp,in that campaign im in we have like time between missions that we can do stuff.
Last time i was training and making poison arrows while exploring options fo equipment

So we can do stuff, i want if the DM let me work in a farm for that free time so i can get food and extra money

[old sluice]

Maybe I can scam someone by selling a fake soul.

[empty thicket]

But it seems our base is underground.... so i will see how i manage to it

[raw ocean]

Maybe I can have a similacrum do the work for me

[lavish flame]

Also that, you can ask for Downtime after a significant enough period of adventuring. Not everybody wants to be adventuring 24/7. Sometimes you have family to visit or things to buy or places to see or gods to free or whatever you want.

[empty thicket]

Maybe upgrading some section of the base i can plant stuff and get extra food

or get some porks for disposal and food

[eager marsh]

you absolutely cannot. Soul Deals are absolute and you'll have it collected as soon as you die

[lavish flame]

That you can do! I fully intend to do that with my Wizard PC. I want to toss a Simulacrum into a Demiplane and just have it do things for me.

[old sluice]

Unless I find a way to make sure my soul is destroyed after I die!

[eager marsh]

Those are few and far in between, often excrutiating methods

[old sluice]

Some sort of contingency that would plane shift me in some soul-destroying thing as soon as I start dying of old age maybe...

[lavish flame]

a Ring of Mind Shielding is a good way to prevent your soul from being used for ill, but it won't destroy your soul

[silent pike]

I made something too op

[eager marsh]

If you sold your soul the collector will be able to come for it still

[lavish flame]

I'm a huge fan of "When you die with this ring you become a sentient magic item"

[empty thicket]

In the campaign im in,
We have a base and when we get enough materials we can upgrade it.
Stuff like a kitchen, medic bay, bedrooms, etc. etc.
I like that and having to choose what to upgrade

[raw ocean]

What if I just hire like 20 commoners to help me make the golem

[silent pike]

Hell imagine a wizard who have 25-27 ac

[eager marsh]

So a standard bladesinger

[raw ocean]

Pretty sure two people cuts the time in half, 4 cuts it into 1/4th

[umbral girder]

Sounds normal for a wizard to reach

[silent pike]

Yeap

[lavish flame]

they'd mostly die. If you can't do the 2 5th level slots, you take 6d6 Psychic damage.

[eager marsh]

Haha, con save

[raw ocean]

But, they would be able to do it though?

Or do they just die before doing anything

[silent pike]

Nah, concentration use my int modifier when activate bladesong. But since my ac is so high, i just straight up skip the con save

[umbral girder]

They die first

[eager marsh]

I said con save. not concentration check

[lavish flame]

they can't read the book that gives them the instructions without taking a buttload of damage

[raw ocean]

What if I make them immune to psychic?

[umbral girder]

Some times you just have a green dragon deal with the Bladesinger

[lavish flame]

they still cannot decipher and use the book

[silent pike]

Ig I'd die wjen something required con save 💔

[raw ocean]

Hmmm, I gotta think of a way to find 200 level 10 casters...

[old sluice]

I mean, the commoners don't have to read the book. You will need to hire people to make some of the parts, you're not a blacksmith

You'll have to hire people to bring the iron you will need

[umbral girder]

Amethyst Dragon showing up with their black hole breath that is a Strength save.

Great fight for a Bladesinger

[eager marsh]

I'll say something at the funeral

[knotty pasture]

You only need one high level caster, just cast clone and do whatever it is you need to do

[lavish flame]

you need to be have 2 5th level spell slots to use the book, you otherwise cannot decipher the text within the book to use it

[silent pike]

I only have 27 hp so one blow from a random monster will knock me unconscious

[knotty pasture]

You'd die, and reincarnate back into your clone, repeat and rinse

Alternatively, does Death Ward save you from the psychic damage?

[old sluice]

Yes

[raw ocean]

Yes

[lavish flame]

I think attempting to cheese this restriction by goes "But I'll just teach them the instructions!" is like... entirely missing the point.

[old sluice]

Death Ward saves from everything.

[lavish flame]

yeah, Death Ward stops death by anything

maybe not Disintegrate? idk.

[raw ocean]

Drop to 0, you get set to 1

[knotty pasture]

Excellent, so you just need enough time as long as one has Death Ward

[raw ocean]

So, literally everything

[knotty pasture]

Death Ward and work on it, long rest, do it again

[rotund thunder]

Does the bit of the Glibness spell that makes all lie detection magic indicate you're telling the truth actually do anything? Zone of Truth is literally the only lie detection magic in existence, and it doesn't "detect" that someone lies, it prevents anything knowingly false from being said at all.

[lavish flame]

this still doesn't get past the "you need to be a powerful magician to read the book" restriction

[knotty pasture]

You'd go from 200 to 1 level 10 spellcaster iirc

I think that's a lot more manageable

[raw ocean]

Wait, does it have to be a PC?

[old sluice]

If you save against zone of truth it would make the caster believe you failed

[raw ocean]

spellcaster with at least two 5th-level spell slots.

[lavish flame]

There's also the Poison "Truth Serum" which would probably get countered by this. Besides that, yeah thats basically useless game text.

[rotund thunder]

Right, and you have to repeat that save every 6 seconds you're being interrogated in the zone

[raw ocean]

I could true polymorph like, aton of creatures

[lavish flame]

no, just someone who can do spellcasting and has at least 2 5th level spell slots

note: in 2024, monsters don't have spell slots at all

[umbral girder]

Also half of 2014 too

[raw ocean]

Ok I could simalacrum myself which cuts the time in half

[old sluice]

Yes. But you could have a save high enough to keep saving.

[silent pike]

So unlimited spell slot?

[umbral girder]

0 spell slots

[raw ocean]

So that's down to 60 days

[umbral girder]

They just get castings of spells without using a spell slot.

[raw ocean]

Now if my fellow party caster does the same, that's down to 30 days?

[lavish flame]

but no bacon.

[umbral girder]

Kinda like how racial spells give you 1 use of a spell.

Or gnomes can cast Speak with Animals a few times a day

[old sluice]

Personally I use another method to beat zone of truth. Essentially reverse ventriloquism

[rotund thunder]

Planetars also get a lie detection ability, but it's not explicitly magical in nature, just a natural part of them, so glibness doesn't even work against that. Same goes for drow inquisitors

[old sluice]

Or telepathy

[rotund thunder]

In my own games I'll probably rule that it lets you avoid all lie detection effects because otherwise that game text might as well not exist

[rotund thunder]

But do you get unlimited games?

[lavish flame]

I think I agree. I think you also become immune to Insight Checks and all other "truth or lie" behaviors if you use Glibness.

At least, you would in my games

[old sluice]

Trick to beat zone of truth: Have a telepathic accomplice ask you another question. Answer that question, let your interrogator believe you answered theirs.
If they ask "Did you murder the duke?"
Have your teammate telepathically ask you "Do you like dragon meat?"
Answer "No"
You have not lied

[empty thicket]

i would like some racial stuff evolve with your character and would even tolerate a nerf to the early to them

[umbral girder]

Yikes

[silent pike]

I cast expeditious retreat + long strider + my mobile feat. each round i can move 100ft by spam dash

Bladesinger is so fun tbh

[empty thicket]

like, Savage Attacks give to my half orc 1 extra attack per critic

[rotund thunder]

I would probably still allow insight but it would take Sherlock Holmes to outdo your deception checks given you get a 15 minimum every time

[lavish flame]

Something Something Pathfinder 2e Something Something

[empty thicket]

yeah, i would research it someday

[rotund thunder]

I guess that could work, gotta get creative with it, but if a DM had an NPC do this I would lose my mind probably

[old sluice]

Other trick if you don't have a telepathic teammate:
Cast magic mouth on your clothes. Let it answer with your voice "I am innocent", "No", "Yes" depending on the piece of clothing. You are not lying, the magic mouth is

[knotty pasture]

It has to be a discreet cast

[old sluice]

I learned that from a DM. We learned three sessions later how that guy lied

[knotty pasture]

Else the foe would know you're up to no good

[old sluice]

Don't cast it in the room!

[lavish flame]

The idea is that you pre-cast the Magic Mouth

[old sluice]

Prepare it. Months in advance if need be.

[knotty pasture]

Bg3 has spoiled me into thinking that it is socially acceptable to cast Guidance when you're next to someone you're talking to

[rotund thunder]

I've been thinking about this because I might need to give my changeling ruler a custom ability to be able to just straight up lie under zone of truth using Glibness, but if I do that I'd like to allow my players to do so as well, cause otherwise that part of the spell only matters for planetars at best

[knotty pasture]

Also casting Guidance on someone you're talking to so they can convince you easier

Self gaslighting has never been more fun

[humble thorn]

Hey just want to check, I posted to the LFP channel to jumpstart a campaign. I did the gods work right?

[lavish flame]

Yeah you did everything right. Its a little short on details though

[old sluice]

Just use one of the tricks honestly. It's more fun for the players if they realize he uses a trick they could copy

[lyric idol]

So...A feat now gives you spiritual weapon 😅

[rotund thunder]

That could also work, though given this character's entire thing is being effectively the best liar in the continent and an extremely powerful mage and possible side big bad, I don't think the players will get mad if she has some special ability either

[humble thorn]

Yeah.... I think I was inbetween purely custom and traditional setting.

[rotund thunder]

I will definitely consider having her use actual fun tactics like the telepathy trick you mentioned to get out of these situations instead, though

[lyric idol]

If youre fun you can make it so there are TWIN changelings who use different abilities and share the same name/identity. That could be a fun way to trick Zone of Truth.

[rotund thunder]

That way the players can figure out a solution, though there isn't any ability in existence that allows for breaking a telepathic link

Aside from just, finding and beating up the guy doing the telepathy

[old sluice]

There is. It's called a knife to the throat

Or just beating them up, yeah.

My idea is better though

[rotund thunder]

I mean, my players might take prisoners, we'll have to see

[lavish flame]

I woupdn't count on it

I've only ever been in a party that took prisoners once, and really nothing came from that

[old sluice]

I don't take prisoners. I also don't generally kill

[rotund thunder]

Also, more importantly, there is literally no way for them to learn someone else is having a telepathic conversation. Detect magic doesn't detect telepathy to my knowledge and I can't think of anything else

[old sluice]

I find that beating someone unconscious and looting them is often more than enough

[lavish flame]

Detect Thoughts might be a giveaway

[lyric idol]

You could make a custom artifact. Pendulum of Lies or something that the party can get after defeating the changeling. Make it so the artifact can allows the user to make a deception check against zone of truth and other mental abilities of such nature. Apply that to the questioning (unless theres a set question that he needs to hide obviously). That way the party gets a sense something is off about the changeling ruler but not what is off.

[rotund thunder]

Could also make it an artifact they can remove from her, I do like that idea as well since it would mean the party can actually do something about it

[lyric idol]

That too.

[rotund thunder]

As opposed to just giving her the glibness spell or whatever and saying it just makes zone of truth do nothing while indicating she's being truthful no matter what she says

[lyric idol]

I do like the idea of the artifact allowing the user to make a deception check personally, as it can give subtle foreshadowing and hints that a clever player can pick up on. Maybe make it so it grants a +2 or +4 to all deception checks.

[old sluice]

Been thinking of something... Is an item in your bag of holding considered to be on your person?

[lyric idol]

Yes and no. I'd make reaching for an item in combat an action.

[valid geyser]

I mean I think it’s considered being carried

[old sluice]

No that's not what I am asking. Contingency ends if its material component is ever "not on your person"

[rotund thunder]

Generally items don't really give a flat bonus to things like that, to my knowledge, but I can homebrew whatever I want. Still, I'll probably keep the changeling ruler as just having a naturally very high deception skill.

[lyric idol]

...thats genuinely a good question. Yes?

[old sluice]

The material component being a statuette of yourself.

[lavish flame]

provided the bag is on your person, I'd say so

[old sluice]

And then you go to sleep. And you need to keep your bag on you while you sleep. Even when you bathe you need to keep the bag.

[lavish flame]

a backpack is "on your person" and so are the contents within it. I don't see why this would be different for a BoH

[lyric idol]

How big is the statue? Carriable in hand?

[old sluice]

It's probably best to keep the statuette as a necklace I guess

[lavish flame]

Yeah, I'd just fashion it into some jewelry

[old sluice]

But that also means that your bad guys who have a contingency are carrying the statue somewhere on their person.

[rotund thunder]

And, given she's disguising herself as the princess of a major kingdom most recently, she doesn't really have to listen to a bunch of random adventurers who demand that she submit to a zone of truth either. Doing so would be akin to accusing her of being a criminal of some kind, which to everyone else would seem absurd and unnecessary.

[lavish flame]

that might even be grounds for treason

[old sluice]

But... What if you're an astral projection? Which version of the item counts? The real one on your body or the projected copy on your projection?

[lavish flame]

I'd assume that your physical body is the thing Contingency is worried about and not your soul

[old sluice]

Depending on the laws, you might be executed for that

[lavish flame]

I think you could die with an unfired Contingency and it wouldn't fire because of your death

[old sluice]

Okay I have a weird scenario.
Let's imagine Jimmy the Wizard. Jimmy has decided he's done risking his life. He gets himself a very secure place for his body and astrally projects. He has a contingency death ward when he does this.
He then plane shifts back to the material. Does the death ward apply to his body, his projection or both?

Now we're a week later. Jimmy is happily being a projection. Jimmy recasts his contingency death ward using the projected version of his statuette, that he wears as an earring.

[snow agate]

we love casting spells

[empty thicket]

i would like to know, i had been playing only... a fighter, ranger....i was in one campaign a wizard and had to drop it for work and in another i was a cleric but we hadnt had a session like...2 months ago

The peak dnd experience, cant have a session because the Dm is busy in studies

[lavish flame]

This is suuuuch an "ask your DM" scenario. Personally, I'd suggest the Death Ward applies to the meat body and not the projected spirit. I don't know why Plane Shifting back to the Material as the Projection would cause the Death Ward to pop though

[tough sandal]

That's why I don't try to make campaigns until I know I can commit to them. :x

I'm becoming more comfortable with the idea of opening a second campaign.

[old sluice]

Oh no the plane shift is just to explain why he's adventuring on the material and not the astral, it's unimportant

Wait the first death ward or the second?

[lavish flame]

The first one, the "He then plane shifts back to the material. Does the death ward apply to his body..." DWard

[old sluice]

Alright. What about the second death ward, cast a week later when Jimmy is a projection?

I'd say it applies to the projection probably.

[lavish flame]

wdym? Like does it affect the Projection? I'd say it does

[old sluice]

But not the body.

So the contingency for you applies to the version of the caster that cast it

[empty thicket]

yep, sad reality

and its happening in 2 of them that, one got a lot of homework and projects and another we cant just coordinate properly

[lavish flame]

Nah, if the Projection makes a Contingent Spell apply to the Projection, then I don't think it'd apply for the Body it is tied to.

I do question what happens if a Death Ward-ed Projection hit 0 hit points. Does it go back to the Body as per Astral Projection's rules or does Death Ward pop beforehand, keeping the Projection around?

[umbral wraith]

Im so excited that there's a DnD discord...wish I had found this years ago

[timid current]

well, welcome!

[old sluice]

I think the Death Ward works beforehand.

Now I am thinking about all the ways Jimmy the wizard would secure his body to make sure it's not disturbed...

Sequester on his body, certainly. Get a buddy to cast a hallow. Guards and wards of course. A teleportation circle. Multiple symbols. One with a whirlwind spell that pulls people towards an acid spiked pit. Homonculi servants. Maybe he could use imprisonment on some powerful monster with the condition that it is released to kill intruders? Mirage arcane too. Planar Binding would allow him to enslave some creatures to protect the place.

[humble thorn]

Aye - I'm old I guess, and cannot read server rules (omg I'M BLIND, or is it just the light). Trying to get a campaign going that is focused on text based play style with the goal of doing live sessions. Shoot me a DM. I'm hoping to find some spell casters.

[umbral wraith]

When your campaign has only one session so far and 5 seconds in pure chaos.

[old sluice]

Wait no. Can't store a whirlwind spell. Damn that's sad.

[humble thorn]

Woaaaaaaah. Isn't dnd pure chaos?

[snow agate]

jumped a paladin with lightning bolt who ascended my tower, didn't realize he had taken up the oath of the ancients..

[old sluice]

... Oh wait. Create Magen might work! Create Magen reduces the caster's hit points permanently but if you cast it as an astral projection, it should reduce the hit points of your astral form, not of your real body, and not of your next astral form!

[eager marsh]

The projection seems to strongly regard itself as not you. The magen wont obey living you anymore

[vale sage]

So question for everyone im using a AI app to help me create a dnd cutscene to introduce a monster i want people's on how good it is

[glass granite]

I’m usually against using AI for DnD

[frail wasp]

yeah pretty pessimistic about it being good

[glass granite]

But for a visual example, I could see it. Though, same as Acid_Trees, I don’t have high hopes on its quality.

[old sluice]

I don't get this sentence

[eager marsh]

it calls the projection a separate incarnation

[old sluice]

Yes?

[eager marsh]

as in 'you' are not 'you' for the sake of spells that bind things to you when you go back to your body

you're a different 'you'

[old sluice]

Probably yes. That doesn't really matter. You're giving the Magen the mission of protecting your body

[eager marsh]

i feel like just keeping your body on a demiplane is easier

[old sluice]

You could do all that actually. Make a fake body in that secure fortress you made and put your real body in a demiplane whose entrance is hidden somewhere in the fortress. Last ditch security

[eager marsh]

demiplane doesnt have an 'entrance' ever if you dont cast the spell

the door only exists while you choose it to by casting it

[old sluice]

Oh yeah that's true.

Well. Problem is, someone could access your demiplane from the astral. Unlikely but possible.

Or someone could cast the spell

[eager marsh]

They cannot?

You can't cast demiplane to a demiplane you dont know specifically of

[old sluice]

You can access someone else's demiplane.

You only need to know the nature and contents.

[eager marsh]

So unless you let someone else see you making it, or tell them about it

[old sluice]

Which is not hard. Once they figure out that it's the demiplane where you keep your real body, they know its nature and content

[eager marsh]

I disagree with that. 'nature' indicates the make and existence. and content would be more than just your body. this also assumes anyone ever knows you have a real body in a demiplane to start. also you can just put a forbiddance spell inside it

[old sluice]

I don't get it. The nature is that its a secure demiplane meant to house your body. The content is your body. If someone finds that out, they know all they need to know

Forbiddance is a good idea though!

[slim lark]

apparently dimension door is a cleric spell with infinite range, who knew

[old sluice]

But it lasts only a day.

[old sluice]

500 feet

[eager marsh]

Forbiddance has a 'become permanent' condition

[slim lark]

im referring to stranger things season 5 episode 1

[old sluice]

Oh yeah I missed it!

[slim lark]

i dont think they researched that well enough but it is what it is

[minor lake]

bro im hype for that

[old sluice]

Those kids are playing second edition. You'd have to check the spell then

[minor lake]

i think im gonna watch e1 tonight

[slim lark]

still a wizard spell with limited range, equal to some multiple of your exp level

[eager marsh]

stranger things never used real D&D rules anyways. the very first scene was roll a single d20 or die

[slim lark]

just finished whats out so far, its pretty good but not season 1 levels, not that i expected it to be

[slim lark]

i mean that can be chocked up to bad dming

[old sluice]

Well anyways that idea works. The problem is that forbiddance is a cleric spell, so you need a buddy. But it saves you a lot of trouble

[eager marsh]

Wish Spell

Wizard privledge is that you dont needa buddy

[old sluice]

I completely forgot about that

[eager marsh]

And thats why I main Wizard

[old sluice]

It is a simpler and easier solution yeah. Well, only problem is that you need a dispel to leave your demiplane if needed but that's a tax of one spell slot for basically absolute safety

[eager marsh]

no?

you know the password to your own Forbiddance spell

[old sluice]

... I also forgot about the password thing.

Okay, I'm getting tired. I'll grab a bite and go to bed because I'm clearly becoming stupid

[misty oracle]

Hi

[wooden geyser]

Hey dudes. Was wondering if there was any DM's around Australia timezones? LFP isnt really working out for upside down land times

[glass granite]

Hallo

There certainly are some, cuz I exist

Resident DM of the Land Down Under, Nugget, mixed to meet ya

But yeah, there aren’t too many Aussie people in this server in comparison to US and Europe

[knotty pasture]

A shame, I'd like to join Aussie ones too online but dunno where else to look for them

[wooden geyser]

I vote Nugget dms an aussie group for our afternoon/evenings lol

[glass granite]

Well actually…
Lemme see what I can do for you

[knotty pasture]

I'm all for some evening sessions

[glass granite]

Are you an Aussie too Sublime?

[glass granite]

Yeah just checked my schedule, it’s inconclusive if I can start a campaign rn. If I DO tho, I’ll be sure to contact you.

[stray atlas]

so bit of a random question

[knotty pasture]

No but I'm near said timezone so Aussie tables are my best bet

[burnt valley]

Question, do you do Adventurers League as well?

[glass granite]

No

[wooden geyser]

@glass granite im down

[stray atlas]

I noticed metallic dragons frequently turn into humans, what happens if a young dragon turns into a human?

[burnt valley]

cuz im in the same timezone as AU and wanted a Tier 4 campaign

[stray atlas]

would said young dragon turn into a young human?

[glass granite]

I could try an AL game tho, but this might be getting a tad off topic

[burnt valley]

ah mb

[glass granite]

We can continue in DM’s if your prefer

[burnt valley]

do you do Tier 4 (home, not AL)campaigns as well right?

[glass granite]

Haven’t done one yet, willing to try

[burnt valley]

Ah alrighty

[wooden geyser]

2 convos at the same time is rough NuggetN but for the Aussie table convo you wanna start a group DM? I got my DDB character already made up.

[glass granite]

Hmmm. Let’s continue that in DMS

[knotty pasture]

I'm down for it too

[tidal bloom]

Can a Wizard cast a spell with Somatic components while holding something like a dagger in one hand and his other free?

[hot gate]

Sure. As long as one hand is free, you're typically good to go.

And some spells only have a verbal component, so you'd need no hands free at all for those. Have a look at their components to make sure.

[tidal bloom]

I am currently getting argued that it's ot the case

And I am very not liking it since the core rule in the handbook on somatic components specifies that

They argue that you need to hold your arcane focus in one hand and then a free one

[vast pelican]

Yes, you can use a free hand to do somatic components.

If a spell doesn't have material components, a focus isn't needed at all.

If it does, then the rules say that you can do somatic components with the same hand you do material components with.

[hot gate]

Is the opposition immune to rulebook quotes?
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/basic-rules-2014/spellcasting#MaterialM

A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell's material components -- or to hold a spellcasting focus -- but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components.

If it's a case of the DM changing how the rules work (which is well within their milieu to do), I'd think about whether or not that's a dealbreaker for you and then take actions accordingly.

[tidal bloom]

Bruh. Well that is now a very clear case. Thank you a lot.

[stone grail]

Hello I’m new to dnd , I wanted to get my friend who’s a DM a set of dice that are not only functional but look really cool , I was just wondering where the best place to look for them or if you have any recommendations

[hot gate]

I'd check if there are any local game stores! They usually have plenty in stock. If not, you'll easily find options to order online by using the keyword "dnd dice"

[humble pollen]

Local game stores is a good suggestion. Additionally if you're going to order online, try "Resin dice" as a search term. Generally those are generally the best looking unless you're going for gem dice which are really expensive.

[raw ocean]

When will the day come when I can play in a campaign with only wizards that cast fireball

[wooden geyser]

Would love to find a group to actually play with. So many starts of conversations regarding playing with very little actual playing

[raw ocean]

There's always DM's recruiting, just a low chance of finding a group that sticks

[wooden geyser]

Im stuck in upside down land. Not many groups for my timezone.

[tender pier]

The only group that can play with me are my friends and I'm DM

[wooden geyser]

Okayyyyyy?

[wind oriole]

Damn

Imagine having friends

[raw ocean]

I wonder if an obsidian blade would be better at slashing damage but more brittle

[humble pollen]

The DM in the only game I'm a player in decided to cancel his campaign. Too much work/effort for him to continue an overarching storyline.
He's planning to run individual pre-published adventures.
We're going to do a session 0 this evening. And I'm not sure if I want to play.
One of the things I enjoy is the overarcing storyline. So I'm in doubt if I'm gonna continue this game.

[raw ocean]

Is there even mechanics on weapons breaking in 5E?

[humble pollen]

There aren't

Not outside the third party gunslinger class.

[raw ocean]

Oh cool beans

[humble pollen]

From the Tal'dorei setting book

[raw ocean]

Although I assume common sense still applies

Like if you get your sword clamped in a wall crush trap it's gonna snap

[humble pollen]

I suppose, though I don't know of any traps that specifically get weapons stuck.

[humble pollen]

So, just said the GM in my group isn't going to do a campaign anymore but individual adventures. One of the things I really enjoy is the persistency of the world, where there's a chance to grow the character and their place in the world.
What could I suggest for relatively low-maintenance ways (from a GM's perspective) to allow some kind of persistance between story arcs to allow some persistent progression without requiring the maintenance of a full campaign?

[hot gate]

Perhaps a westmarches-like setup? You essentially have a home base that can stay presistent and each session is a sortie from that base to another adventure, and the end of which everyone returns.

[wooden geyser]

Sounds like a cool concept

[humble pollen]

That's an idea. I had thought of something similar to suggest (never did westmarches) where the PC's have been granted some lands that are just in awful condition. Maybe close to the frontier or something. And the adventures are there to help make the area liveable.

[knotty pasture]

When in doubt for any wacky team comps, bg3 🫡

[humble pollen]

Still need to play BG3

But so many things to do, so little time.

[raw ocean]

All of us got 50-80 years left, it's fine to take it slow

[humble pollen]

Nearly time to buy a fast car and call it a midlife crisis 😄

[hot gate]

D&D itself is past 50 you know 😄

[humble pollen]

Yea and it's already had several facelifts XD

[hot gate]

I've known plenty of great players and DMs that are a lot older than me. And my main plan for retirement is already "play lots of D&D"

[humble pollen]

My favourite RPG is still Exalted. And yeah RPG's are going to happen until the day I die.

[raw ocean]

I once worked in a retirement home and met a dude who still played D&D, I think he said he started in 1976?

[humble pollen]

That's pretty cool

[raw ocean]

Yeah, it's pretty crazy with the age range on D&D

or TTRPG's in general

Its a bit heartwarming to know that once you hit your 50's your hobbies aren't over

[humble pollen]

Yeah, and at the rate VR is developing by the time Alzheimers will hit me I'll just upload to some server in LEO and live forever.

[raw ocean]

If they drop full-dive VR im gonna wait a year or two on that, Don't want to join the first patch and not have eyelids.

If you get the reference lol

[humble pollen]

I'm not sure I do. Is it from "I have no mouth and I must scream"?

[raw ocean]

It's from some random TV show where they get uploaded to a digital world and the first one's who got uploaded had ALOT of bugs

[humble pollen]

Aha

[raw ocean]

"Upload" is the name

[humble pollen]

Not sure if this would be for this channel, or for #character-discussion But, for making a gunfighter, which is the best class/subclass?

[raw ocean]

probably character discussion, lets swap over

[stray sage]

What type of dragon do you think would be most willing to start/fund a news paper industry?

[raw ocean]

Time dragon

"New Dragon's Times"

The best dragon to tell you what's happening on certain dates!

[bitter kraken]

Copper

Afaik those are the most interested in people's tales and stories.

[raw ocean]

Imagine working at business registration place and the front door gets bulldozed by a dragon

[stray sage]

I was thinking silver dragons because of how interested they are in humanoid culture and such

[flat flicker]

Hey guyss

I wana learn how to play dnd

[jagged vigil]

Hey folks! According to the new FR books, the current king of Many-Arrows is King Homebringer. Do we know why there isn't an Obould Many-Arrows on the throne anymore?

Oh, or Lorgru

[inner cloak]

can I get a D&D board game at Walmart

[silk hare]

#dnd-newcomers

[silk hare]

?

[jagged vigil]

Woah, I'm fascinated by the name. Prefer 2014 to 2024 rules?

[silk hare]

I mean only played 2014 so far kinda

[jagged vigil]

I see

[silk hare]

and in some aspects yes

and the group I play with also only uses 2014 so far (might change in a few days but eh) so all questions I ask and the things I say pertain to 2014

mostly at least, so its also kind of a heads up in case something would be conflicitng

[jagged vigil]

I'm so happy we've downsized with 2024. I remember it was incredibly exciting when XGtE came out. New subclasses! All very exciting! Now, 2014 just feels too full. Too many races, subclasses, feats, it's all too much

[silk hare]

I mean hard to get started with for sure, but if you have limited options anyways its fine

[jagged vigil]

Settings have to be so expansive and fantastical to allow for all the player options

[silk hare]

like e.g. XGtE, TCE, PHB, maybe Fizbans

depending on dm for Characters MM MtoF etc

[jagged vigil]

And so many 2014 players expect EVERYTHING to be available

[unkempt lava]

Starting at level 6 and trying a fun (maybe OP) multiclass: Warlock/Sorcerer. Plan is to cast Fireball as my action, then Quicken Spell Eldritch Blast as a bonus action. Maybe I’ll even add Silvery Barbs into the build. What do you think?

[silk hare]

oh yeah no that is a communication problem then, it should be made clear what you can /cannot do from the start

[tame estuary]

that doesn't work

[silk hare]

not really "op" but works (apart from silvery barbs on the same turn)

1 lvl spell per turn only even if you quicken

[tame estuary]

mhm

[jagged vigil]

Yeah, but you know the type of player that wants to play something fantastical and exotic is also the type to expect everything on the table

[silk hare]

I guess?

but again, thats mostly a communication issue then

[silk hare]

especially considering you will be very squishy, not really OP

[tame estuary]

it's fine, I think even the people with the more vanilla race options want to have a very in-depth backstory

[unkempt lava]

How can I make this build stronger (Im new to d&d)

[jagged vigil]

Anyway it's just nice to have everything reduced

[silk hare]

what subclasses did you have in mind?

also if you are new dont multiclass

[hot gate]

I'd start slow and try out stuff. Likely, you'll not start at level 6 anyway. Level 1 or 3 are way more likely.

[tame estuary]

warlock sorcerer is a fine multiclass honestly

[unkempt lava]

I mean I think it will be my fourth campaign so not that new ig

[silk hare]

ah ok then

[unkempt lava]

Do you have any ideas how I could make it more powerful maybe a good subclass or race?

[silk hare]

what feats do you plan on taking?

what is the general idea? high dpr, some control?, no control spells? etc etc

[silk hare]

I mean depends on what your table allows as source material

and if its RAW (to some extent or nah)

[unkempt lava]

Nah I was like Mhmh I like fireball but also like my sniper (eldritch blast) what if I could do both

[silk hare]

what invocations do you want to take

what subclasses did you have in mind

[unkempt lava]

Im not sure

I usually get a lot of help by my group to make my character

It’s short campaigns

[tame estuary]

why want to be powerful

[unkempt lava]

I just like the idea to fireball and eldritch blast but I also thought about action surges Im not sure if it would make me able to cast double fireball tho

[tame estuary]

no

if you want to use fireball and then eldritch blast, go do that, if that's what you want to play

[silk hare]

really? I thought action surges let you use another lvld spell

[tame estuary]

it used to be because it's weird, 2024 rules makes it so you can't

[mild isle]

yo i want to try playing dnd anyone got a group?

[tame estuary]

#find-a-game

[mild isle]

[mild isle]

thank you

[silk hare]

ah right, again I mostly go off of 2014 lol

[unkempt lava]

@tame estuary @silk hare how can I make my idea better?

[silk hare]

depends on what you mean by "better"

[tame estuary]

it's already good

[silk hare]

let us know what you have in mind and we can try to help

[unkempt lava]

What subclass race things like tha

[silk hare]

depends on your playstyle and what you want to happen

[tame estuary]

depends on your goal, do you want to make it so that you're no longer invited to groups?

[silk hare]

tbh dont think that would happen with this character

its not a cleric

[tame estuary]

there are layers to "better"

[unkempt lava]

I want to have a goofy but fun role that boost the rp like previously I’ve used changeling and the crow thingy

[tame estuary]

well we're not your group, we don't know what your game would find enjoyable

[unkempt lava]

Good ac, high damage

[silk hare]

good ac: you are in the wrong class my guy

[tame estuary]

spellcasters when they forget that their spell has a 120 ft range

[unkempt lava]

A race with a good ac

[silk hare]

only thing you can do is A: "waste" a feat for medium armor prof
B: take the speed penalty
C: take the hexblade subclass

[silk hare]

tortle has a base AC of 17 I think

[tame estuary]

I think I'm going to send you to #optimization

[knotty pasture]

Excellent idea

[silk hare]

or #character-discussion

[tame estuary]

since that's what you're trying to accomplish right now

[silk hare]

but yeh optimization seems better

I mean theyll probably just tell you that the build is "suboptimal" in some way but yeh

[tame estuary]

if the goal is to be "powerful" there's only one way

to speak the language I don't dare to attempt

[silk hare]

whut xD

[unkempt lava]

Spit it out!

[tame estuary]

probability projections

putting the math in the math rock game

[hot gate]

Become the DM?

[silk hare]

oh yeah fair, I mean thats the basis of the game tho

its all just maths at the end of the day 🤷

[tame estuary]

we enjoy the game for different things, nothing to be ashamed of. I just don't go there because I don't think is fun

I respect you guys over there, just making a light joke is all

[storm magnet]

Can a dragonborn’s breath be used for small tasks? Like making a poison loogie if you’re a green descendant to poison a drink

[silk hare]

fair enough tbh, I kinda do that just passively sometimes, at least for the easy things so

[hot gate]

As per the rules, no, but it's always worth asking your DM

[unkempt lava]

@tame estuary before I go Im gonna need my bingo card

[storm magnet]

Oh the rules say no?

[hot gate]

Well, more like, the rules don't say you can, so you can't.

[tame estuary]

no, the bingo cards are for people who spends too much time in this server

I'll give one when you're still here after 3 months

[silk hare]

what bingo cards?

[unkempt lava]

Alright this is just a quest line 🫡

[hot gate]

As with any very laser-focused discord server, there are some topics that get brought up a lot.

[silk hare]

???

[tame estuary]

it's just a fun community thing

poking fun of repeated topics

[silk hare]

I see, care to explain a bit more?

like how that came to be or sth ?

[tame estuary]

no? it's not dnd

[silk hare]

alright 🤷

[hot gate]

Bingo works by you crossing off predetermined points on grid. It's a very popular past-time. Just a thing people like to do.

[burnt valley]

how long does it take to make a unicycle in dnd?

[silk hare]

yes Ik, just didnt get how it is related to DND

[tame estuary]

it's a sever bingo card

[unkempt lava]

@silk hare what’s your favorite soul games?

[silk hare]

bc the message about bingo cards had no prompt beforehand- hence the confusion

[tame estuary]

it's on my bio

[hot gate]

That really isn't on topic though. Consider asking in #non-dnd-topics

[silk hare]

ah I see then

[stoic obsidian]

I realize that rogue can multiclass with any class pretty easily if you think about it

[tame estuary]

you need the dex requirements

[stoic obsidian]

And that’s it

Just dex

[tame estuary]

I dunno, is a level from your caster really worth it for an expertise and a weapon mastery?

[stoic obsidian]

I meant from rogue

[tame estuary]

oh you're right

[stoic obsidian]

Tho monk be the weird/inpractical option

Really depends on what you want tbh

It mostly be like 6-8 levels of rogue

Tho honestly it a thought

[knotty pasture]

They're bad with Druids and Clerics, a typical Rogue doesn't stack Wisdom

Even Monk works better than Druids and Clerics, multiclassing into Shadow Monk makes a Rogue more Roguey

Barbs are kind of a grey area as well

[severe chasm]

Hey guys need some help. Haven’t played in forever but my friend does and he’s also a dungeon master

Are the “The Game Master’s Book Of” series any good for more experienced DM? See them on sale on Amazon and was thinking of getting some as a Christmas present. If so, which ones would be the best to get?

[rough basalt]

I own a few and I think they're pretty good, even if just for inspiration.

As for which one exactly, it's hard to say

Since they're pretty specialized.

[lilac otter]

So currently doing homebrew of one piece, made my players roll for fruits and all got 18 or above wich gave them fruits of luffy, kaido, white beard have to come up with how to fix my story till sunday to make it challenging for them, alr ruled out haki and sea prism stone cause against all three of them it did nothing. my current fix would be to make them go on ages long awakening of each fruit so i can manage, is this a good temporaty fix ?

[tame estuary]

dice are kind of a safe gift, you don't really know which books your friend owns already lol

unless you kinda do some detective work and have them show you around

[severe chasm]

That is true, however I had gotten him a pair of nice dice already, and I think that’s kinda what he gets a lot of too haha

[rough basalt]

Or just askem a bit about what they like doing in dnd

[severe chasm]

Definitely DM,

[rough basalt]

If they like running games in their own world then Gamemasters Book of Instant Towns and Cities, or Legendary Locations could be good

[severe chasm]

Which is why I was thinking the books, he hosts games on roll20

[rough basalt]

If they like making dungeons, Gamemasters Book of traps, treasures and puzzles

[tame estuary]

ah online games, now this gets interesting

[silk hare]

tbh not sure how you would even use the "devilfruit" aspect

but considering you gave them some of the best fruits in the verse you have a problem kinda

I mean luffy was still somewhat weak in the beginning so you should manage there (normal swords etc)

but the other 2 are basically indestructible so thats on you

cant really help with more info on how u let them "use their powers"

[rough basalt]

Reminds me, my Gamemasters Book of collection will be growing this holiday

Gonna get Towns and Legendary location books

[tame estuary]

I honestly can't think of a good present for an online DM

maybe an art book

[still plover]

Perhaps you could share your ideas in #homebrew ? Aside from that, look up how to narratively challenge Superman.

[tame estuary]

like just a general artbook

[knotty pasture]

Uhh maybe dndbeyond subscriptions

[lilac otter]

I figured out the abilities alr instead of unlocking skills or spells i make them unlock abilities at certain level, but my main problem are all their starting stats

[lilac otter]

Yeah fair

[silk hare]

again as long as u dont elaborate more its hard to find a solution

[tame estuary]

dang, I forgot I can't gift steam games because I live in SEA

talespire or tabletop simulator would've been a nice gesture to my online DMs

[knotty pasture]

Gift bingo cards

[tame estuary]

oh I have an idea for one of them

[lilac otter]

i think i'll just fix stat block by making my whitebeard user take damage in the beginning from his own attacks and make kaido user get a defensive and hp debuff as long as he stays a fish that way i can control when they unlock the actual statblock

[tame estuary]

interestingly enough, kaido's fruit doesn't work that way

new chapters reveal that the dragon looking thing has always exist since he ate the fruit

[silk hare]

I mean all zoans have their hybrid form so

[cinder timber]

hello

[lilac otter]

Then i'm still safe cause they only watch anime so i hope it ends till then

[glass granite]

Hi

[severe chasm]

I appreciate the help guys. Just wondering, are the game master books aimed at newbies? Or do experienced DMs find them useful too?

[halcyon forum]

the new DMG is very good for new DMs

[cinder timber]

u have a good thanksgiving?

[halcyon forum]

I personally find the older DMG better as experienced DM, but there is some good stuff in the new one too

[glass granite]

We don’t have thanksgiving in Australia

[reef tundra]

Laughs in British and doesn’t know what thanksgiving is

[glass granite]

ah a kindred spirit

[cinder timber]

I didn't know where you are from, bro. My b

[reef tundra]

I can agree with this, I find the old DMG more helpful as I became a more experienced DM

And unfortunately I do not own the new DMG

[tame estuary]

give them advanced dnd books
they'll get a chuckle

[cinder timber]

I still need to read the new dmg

[inner silo]

Using rapier as a spellcasting focus is gotta be so much aura

[glass granite]

Using a lot of weapons as a focus is pretty cool

[reef tundra]

I love using weapons as Spellcasting focuses

[inner silo]

Like drawing out the ancient runes of spells using it

[reef tundra]

I think the coolest is a greatsword or glaive as a Spellcasting focus

[inner silo]

Fr, this is why artificers are an S tier class

[reef tundra]

That’s pretty badass too actually

[glass granite]

I like having a shield as a focus.

[reef tundra]

How could you say that… I thought we were acquaintances, Cracker… /j

[inner silo]

Yeah, swinging a giant sword and a bolt of lightning rushing out of it must be the ultimate power fantasy

[glass granite]

Followed by some sort of polearm

[reef tundra]

You dare betray me like this /j

[inner silo]

insert that prison scene from megamind

[reef tundra]

Betrayer /j

[inner silo]

Yeah, shield is also cool and more versatile I'd say

[reef tundra]

Magic captain America

[burnt valley]

whats an artificer

[inner silo]

Say your fireball is you throwing your shield and it bouncing off multiple people and coming back

[inner silo]

A mechanic

[reef tundra]

Garbage /j
-# The artificer slanderer strikes again

But yeah, basically a mechanic.

[burnt valley]

imagine being magic item dependent, couldnt be me /j

[burnt valley]

oh i see cool

[inner silo]

I need to learn to slander wizards like you do artificers

[reef tundra]

I also slander wizards. Join me in my conquest

[inner silo]

I shall. Glad we found a common class to bully!

[burnt valley]

I have a spellcaster agenda

[silk hare]

I slander paladins personally

[reef tundra]

Allow us to respectfully slander a class while still respecting other people’s opinions together

[glass granite]

I slander scheduling.

[inner silo]

Oath of the ancients is too cool for me to hate

[inner silo]

Fr

[reef tundra]

You don’t have custody of them >:( /j

[silk hare]

YET!

[burnt valley]

oath of the ancients is the only valid paladin subclass

[inner silo]

Sounds valid

[burnt valley]

cuz they have spell resist

[inner silo]

Don't forget oath of the crown

[reef tundra]

No that’s fair

And vengeance, and conquest

And every paladin subclass

[inner silo]

Vengeance is too edgy for me personally

[glass granite]

I like paladins

[burnt valley]

isnt that a CR30 monster?

[reef tundra]

That’s exactly why they stole my heart

[glass granite]

31

[burnt valley]

Oh no, so its that strong

[glass granite]

Not even the DM can beat it

[inner silo]

Is paladin your favourite class?

[burnt valley]

A Vengeance Paladin Tabaxi reskinned as a black hedgehog

[reef tundra]

Yes

[inner silo]

I see, makes sense

[reef tundra]

It was the first class I played and it will be the last

[inner silo]

Make it oathbreaker

[reef tundra]

Paladin will be the class I play as I die

[inner silo]

Why is your title Warlock main?

[reef tundra]

Because I switch between them for my role

Warlock is my favourite full-ish caster and second favourite class

[inner silo]

I see

Tbh they do seem pretty cool

[reef tundra]

Warlocks are peak

[burnt valley]

The song "I Am All of Me" plays everytime they make an entrance

[inner silo]

Btw @reef tundra I've made a fallen aasimar rogue arcane trickster for the new campaign I'm joining. Is that too edgy?

[reef tundra]

It’s perfect

[inner silo]

Alrighty, then good

[reef tundra]

Mostly because I love edgelords when they get that sweet spot

There’s good and bad edgelords

[glass granite]

Embrace the cringe. But tbh as long as they’re still cooperating and aren’t self centred as hell, it’s fine.

[reef tundra]

Fallen Aasimars are that good edgelord 👌

[burnt valley]

Would a comedic edgelord count as a good edgelord?

[inner silo]

They actually killed a guy accidentally and now are trying to be a better person and redeem themselves

[glass granite]

Yay, redemption arc

[reef tundra]

An edgelord where the joke is how edgy they are? Yes

[inner silo]

Yep, my favourite

[burnt valley]

Yippie!! I wanna do one at some point

[reef tundra]

I made a rogue edgelord called Hunter, and he was classic dark brooding edgelord, except it’s just him trying to be cool while secretly being dorky

[inner silo]

Btw @reef tundra what do you think of making the edgelord be like quiet and mysterious just because they're extremely socially awkward and would rather not talk to new people except the other party members?

[reef tundra]

“What would you like for breakfast, hunter?”
”The souls of those who wronged me”
“How about pancakes?”
“I LOVE PANCAKES”

[glass granite]

pancake?
for me?

[inner silo]

Is that mini-peka from clash royale?

[reef tundra]

Socially awkward characters can be difficult to play well, just make them not trusting

[reef tundra]

I don’t understand a word of that sentence

[inner silo]

Alrighty!

[burnt valley]

I imagined the dude going from a deep voice to a high pitched one when they heard pancakes

[reef tundra]

No no that is exactly what I imagine too

[glass granite]

I understand “is that [REDACTED] from [REFACTED]”
So three words!

[inner silo]

Clash royale is a strategy based mobile game and mini-peka is a little pancake loving robot with a powerful sword who seeks to destroy all that disrespect the pancake

[reef tundra]

Cute

[inner silo]

Yeah, he's the best

Ik sorcerers don't get rapier proficiency but I'll ask my dm to give me a magical spellcasting focus rapier

[ivory shale]

Hi

[reef tundra]

You could ask for a gem of the war mage, attach it to a rapier and then it becomes your Spellcasting focus

[inner silo]

Right, could do that! And later on ask to just reskin other magical staffs I'd get as rapiers

[slow island]

Multiple people said there will be a Foundryvtt Discount on friday i should wait.
But now the entire shop is on discount except the software license itself. Huh?

[reef tundra]

Yeah, exactly

[inner silo]

Thanks for the help!

[snow agate]

Cool thanks for sharing