🏆-event-chat

[hushed moth]

Thank you. It’d be nice if that info was easier to find and kind of ridiculous that it takes several cycles to get 1 rod. Happy hunting.

[silver pike]

Well you are getting a free £89.99 ($100) pack for free. Also as long as you save up you can get it every 5.5 months

[hushed moth]

Only 5 and half? 😆

[sterile lava]

Issue with coordinate or location coming through

[silver pike]

They are aware and investigating
#⚡-mod-announcements

[pastel topaz]

Scoring is wrong on the Doosmday armada heroic!

It says it will give salvage for each armada started, but it also only give 1 point per start rather than 50.

@pseudo rune

Either the description or scoring is wrong.

[hallow ember]

@pseudo rune I really hope this scoring is wrong. That is an impossible amount of armadas to beat in 2 days at lower levels.

That's 75 level 39 armadas

[pastel topaz]

.. It's 1 directive per armada...

[final prism]

Where did this ATA event come from?

[pastel topaz]

They don't list the daily BP events...

[cunning atlas]

These doomada score gotta be wrong, this would cost me like 14 hours of continuous armadas to finish, assuming we win them all.......

[versed osprey]

those rares are even harder then lvl 38 rare armadas wtf

thats not beatable right? Or is there some special thing for that?

[pastel topaz]

Ugh. Worms are the worst thing in this game.

[tiny gust]

200 armadas, 17 hours of run time....

And with a may completion token in it, that's some serious bait throughout the month that the officer was unlockable

[hallow ember]

<@&509691205798592532> you guys passing on the scoring issues?

[shrewd knot]

Few locations and everyone trying for 75-100 armadas in 2 days. WTF type of planning was this? Or is this the one they expect to keep everyone from getting the epic officer?

[cunning atlas]

These points gotta he 100x higher and even then half of my alliance probably can't finish

@pseudo rune

[shrewd knot]

Not to mention that's 12 hours straight of time in armadas

[silver pike]

Bp events aren’t on the Calendar

[shrewd knot]

50 directives for rares

I can run 4

[pastel topaz]

You assume everyone has the power to do that. Lower 30s don't have that option.

[earnest hornet]

You have higher team members??

[cunning atlas]

Like 1500 other players. Plus we can barely win 39....

[pastel topaz]

I wasn't talking about for myself.

[earnest hornet]

The 40 rares aren’t that hard,

[silver pike]

The Heroic is not intended to be completed. It’s for armada leaders to gain something extra out of leading as the chests were not that great.

[shrewd knot]

Lvl 40 is 15 wins. So 750 directives. Also not what most of us have.

[pastel topaz]

16 wins at Ops 38.

This scoring is atrocious with the directive cost.

[hallow ember]

Nor can many alliances actually beat them.

[shrewd knot]

I wouldn't care if it wasn't for the may completionist in there.

[brisk sluice]

It gets worse. I have to do 100-125

[gusty pulsar]

Wheres the Koby Event?

[hallow ember]

I think it's time to go do something else for a while and hope scopley comes back with an adjustment here.

[pearl isle]

Scopely rolled dice for these points again?

[solemn wharf]

100 Armadas. Are you serious @pseudo rune

[tiny gust]

This ^. Its the May completionist being locked in there that's the issue

[loud drum]

Are we suppose to start 5000 armadas within 24h? 😂

[versed osprey]

thats only for armada starters, its labeled heroic

its only a bonus

[loud drum]

Exactly. Need to start 5000 armadas.

[versed osprey]

as i said its only a bonus for starting an armada nothing more

[pastel topaz]

You're not meant to actually finish the heroic event. It's just meant to be a rebate and the ridiculously high score is to make sure you can't go over.

So that nothing is "wasted"

[versed osprey]

you get something for every armada started

its not that the rewards go up the more you start

[pastel topaz]

rare armada started*

[versed osprey]

no

[pastel topaz]

Yes.

[versed osprey]

for every directive spend

sooo

[loud drum]

First reward is at 50 started armadas.

[versed osprey]

you can start 50 uc

[pastel topaz]

The uncommons are 1 directive each, sooo

50 is not "every armada started"...

[versed osprey]

soooooo

what

[earnest hornet]

Because your meant to start the rares NOT the uncommons

[oak moat]

I don’t see the join forces or perish event but stfc.space says it exists

[pastel topaz]

Back on topic, the Fissures SMS has ridiculous scoring.

[pastel topaz]

YOU WANT TO TELL THE OPS 30s IN MY ALLIANCE THAT?

[lost abyss]

Rare and epic armadas in events like these should be worth more points per directive used than less.

[earnest hornet]

What ops levels do you have in your alliance?? Have them join the bigger players they aren’t a hard

[earnest hornet]

Your spending more directives so it is more

[lost abyss]

No, it isn’t. A 39 uc nets 200 points. A 43 rare or 50 epic nets 45 or 75 points per directive used.

[grizzled mulch]

Not labeled Heroic for me

[earnest hornet]

If your bigger players aren’t helping the lower levels in the armadas then that’s not great team work

[versed osprey]

in the event schedule it is

[pastel topaz]

There's also a MASSIVELY limited number of directives.

[void pendant]

Rares still gives not enough points at ops 41. I got 150 directives = 7500 points + 4500 L40 win points, I would still need 18k more points as L40. So I need 5 people to host with me and win all 30 armadas. @pseudo rune

[lost abyss]

The most efficient way to do the event unfortunately is 39 and 35 ucs.

The rares and epics are a massive loss on points

[void pendant]

While being at war so armadas fail at times

[earnest hornet]

You also get another 50 directives today too, so 200

[grizzled mulch]

Scopely does it again. Still, even as Heroic, not sure how it’s completable.

[light stone]

What about the Doomsday armadas: Bonus sstart? Are we expected to start 5000 armadas in 24 hrs... with a 5 minute timer that's over 400 hours

[versed osprey]

its not supposed to be that easily completable

its just a bonus for spending directives

[pastel topaz]

It isn't. The heroics is NOT meant to be completed.

The heroic is just more or less a rebate for directives spent.

[bitter snow]

The description even says it's not meant to be completed...

[grizzled mulch]

Right, but this borders on impossible, not just difficult

[earnest hornet]

The heroic event isn’t supposed to be completed

[pastel topaz]

IT IS MEANT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE

[grizzled mulch]

All Heroic events can be completed, they’re just tough

[earnest hornet]

It’s bonus rewards

[pastel topaz]

It's impossible so you CAN'T go over the score so you ALWAYS get the rebate.

[grizzled mulch]

No. Just more difficult. Heroics can be completed too

[bitter snow]

It literally says "This is not meant to be completable" in the description?

[earnest hornet]

Not this one,

[pastel topaz]

This one is literally designed to be impossible because it's just a one off gimmick to be a rebate.

[grizzled mulch]

Where? I don’t see that

[bitter snow]

"It is not intended to be completed"

[grizzled mulch]

Not on mine

[pale kestrel]

armada starter bonus is just a bonus for the spenders

[bitter snow]

jusrt below the highlight

[grizzled mulch]

Not on mine. There’s even a completionist trophy for it

[bitter snow]

https://tenor.com/view/ru-paul-reading-fundamental-is-glasses-gif-12651517

[bitter snow]

which event are you looking at?

[pastel topaz]

The heroic doesn't have the trophy. You're looking at the wrong event.

[twilit otter]

Are you even looking at the right event?

[grizzled mulch]

Doomsday Fissures- SMS

[pastel topaz]

That's not the heroic.

[twilit otter]

you aren't.

[pastel topaz]

That's the normal SMS.

[vital gyro]

scopely trying to change our mindset to the fact they now want some sms to be impossible

[pastel topaz]

The normal SMS that everyone is here complaining about having the wrong scoring.

[vital gyro]

already people conforming to their new policies :p

[grizzled mulch]

Right. That’s what I’m talking about

[silver pike]

As it says in the event description it’s not intended to be completed. It’s purpose is to give extra rewards to armada leaders as the loot boxes aren’t that great for doom armadas

[pastel topaz]

The heroic is the Starter Bonus event.

[pale kestrel]

probably trying to make up for the extra completionist trophy they gave out before by making it almost improbable to complete this one without spending all day long on the game running the small armadas

[grizzled mulch]

I just linked the one I’m looking at. It’s scored wrong for a non-heroic

[bitter snow]

So, even the lowest level armada... you're looking at 150pts per win 133 armadas? It's a lot, but with that MS I imagine you can hit the bigger ones no problems...

[pastel topaz]

Yes. And most people here are saying the scoring has to be wrong.

[pulsar fossil]

The SMS is unreasonable. 20k points are 200 points per? So only 100 of these things. That’s just ridiculous.

[grizzled mulch]

Maybe. 133 doomadas is still far too many with competition, etc.

[bitter snow]

OR, get a team and do some rares

and have it done in a fraction of the time

[pulsar fossil]

And since it has a completion token, I think they’ve made it way too difficult

[twilit otter]

Yes, because I have allll those directives.

[bitter snow]

given that one rare started and won = 4k points

[bitter snow]

did you not do the events yesterday?

[twilit otter]

Thats 10 for me. I have 200 directives.

[grizzled mulch]

Fair point. Gonna have to try one. The HP is awfully high, though

Rares are 50 directives. They sourced us, what, 100 yesterday?

[bitter snow]

depending on the cost to run a gigantic rare, it might be easier to run and lose to the 45/50s 😂

[twilit otter]

Its not the difficulty. its the lack of directives

The epic ones are 250 IIRC

[bitter snow]

There's still a bunch in todays SMS and the AMS

[grizzled mulch]

OK. We’ll try that

[twilit otter]

Its not enough for the alliance.

[vital gyro]

scopely screwing over newer servers again, pts for lower armadas are negligible

[void pendant]

Which tier epics?

[pulsar fossil]

The rares cost 50x the directives to start but only give 7.5x the points. So hey aren’t really better

[bitter snow]

But faster 🤷‍♂️

[twilit otter]

Sorry 200 for the doomsday epics.

[bitter snow]

So pick your poison 😄

[lost abyss]

Unfortunately that’s a huge net loss on points. May be expedient on time, but people are giving up 6k points per rare run per person.

[bitter snow]

more points per person in the win/loss though

Remember, you're meant to be running them as a team 🙂

[lost abyss]

Directives are the roadblock

Run all rares, see how many people end up way short on their milestones.

[karmic vault]

The ALB rewards contain T'ana ears. But we're not getting Dr T'ana are we?

[earnest hornet]

The scoring isn’t wrong, not with team work, and starting the rares

[twilit otter]

Dude we're aware that its supposed to be a team event. We're also not trying to screw our whole alliance out of the milestones

[eager kiln]

fix the event scoring

[chrome kelp]

The scoring is crazy

With rares and the whole alliance

JFC not enough directives for this crap again

[lost abyss]

Basically, a 39 uc nets everyone 200 points, plus 50 for the starter. Best rare nets 45 points per directive used, best epic nets 75 points per directive used for the non-starters.

[earnest hornet]

thats not the point tho

the rares are where the rewards are for the Salvage

[lost abyss]

If people want to finish the really large milestones, it kinda is.

[earnest hornet]

which large milestone??

[bitter snow]

just thinking, if you have 5 people, spending 50 to start a rare 40 each.

2500 for spend
7500 if you win all 5.
2500 if you lose all 5.

That's 5-10k for everyone, off the back of 50 directives done.

[twilit otter]

ok, still doesn't finish me and screws the alliance.

[bitter snow]

Looks like we're getting 200 by end of today? so between 20k and 40k points if you're in a team of 5 that runs 4 rares each

[pastel topaz]

Which screws over the lower level players, more or less.

[twilit otter]

Sorry that I'm not a selfish prick.

[torpid light]

39 uncommons are stupid scoring for 40k milestone.

[pastel topaz]

I agree with you on this.

[earnest hornet]

do the rares

[bitter snow]

lower levels only need to lose 3 rounds of rares🤷‍♂️

[twilit otter]

Its 15k for a 31 dude

[bitter snow]

same at 34 where I am

[earnest hornet]

the level 40 Rares are not that hard with team, and spread the team, its not that hard to do

[bitter snow]

Right, so grab 4 other people.

You all run 3 rare 40s each and lose.

You're done.

[pastel topaz]

Stop trying to explain what is clearly poor design.

[bitter snow]

15 rares total

[bitter snow]

just trying to explain maths, which you guys apparently failed 😂

[twilit otter]

Yeah, no definitely didn't fail math.

[pale kestrel]

betting devs didn't think about this being an issue between same alliance when they supposedly fixed the issue with two alliances starting same armada

[lost abyss]

No, you are using group points and not solo milestone points. Wrong data, wrong metric.

[twilit otter]

But keep insulting us 🙂

[pastel topaz]

Just because you can game the system does not mean that it's good design. jfc

[bitter snow]

why?

[vital gyro]

apologists gonna apologise

[earnest hornet]

game the system??? thats the whole game is to plan and do the event

[lost abyss]

The sms event for the tendi token doesn’t care about net group points.

[bitter snow]

you don't do armada teams for this sort of thing?

[bitter snow]

yes it does...

Win or lose a rare + directive spends

you can win/lose an armada without starting it?

So share...

[vital gyro]

sorry guys, if the only way you can complete the event for some servers is to lose armadas, thats bad event design

[lost abyss]

2250/50 directives. Tell me how many points per directive that is

[bitter snow]

You can do more low level ones 🤷‍♂️

[vital gyro]

stop being apologists for scopely

[earnest hornet]

thats why they have the scoring so its not a complete loss

[bitter snow]

That's the 'herioc'

[lost abyss]

It’s the tendi event

[left marlin]

it's not

[bitter snow]

doomsday fissures - SMS ?

[earnest hornet]

what the hell do you keep harping on about that for?? the POINT is to do the RARES cos thats where the rewards are

[unique lodge]

Doing the math, on our alliance of 80 ppl. If everyone ran an average of 3 43 with 6 slots…. That gets everyone 39k points

[bitter snow]

15k points, with win/loss metrics and directive spend?

[pastel topaz]

One of you is arguing how inefficient it is per directive and the other is arguing it's still technically possible.

[unique lodge]

Not enough for the sms

[bitter snow]

The one with the completionist trophy?

[vital gyro]

if you buy a chainsaw but the chainsaw doesn't work, but you're "well you can just manually push the chain across the tree and it will cut it down eventually"

[lost abyss]

It’s far less rewarding than doing the ucs. It should be comparable. Those same 50 directives would net you 10k points not counting the starts.

[vital gyro]

its bad design

even if theres a workaround

[unique lodge]

Or everyone can do 150-250 UC

[earnest hornet]

its not the points its the rewards from the armadas too.

[lost abyss]

Woooooo, 2-3 recruit tokens each

[rich inlet]

It is not 15k dude If it was 15 K i would be fine with that scoring. It is lot more as you go up in level. This is for me at 44. 45-48 have to score 50k in points to finish the sms

[abstract gate]

What the hell 2 away missions in one arch. No warning. This is BS

[earnest hornet]

40k

and the salvage

[bitter snow]

Well, you're a higher level, so do the bigger armadas?

[pastel topaz]

I'm pretty sure most people don't really care about the salvage you love so much...

[bitter snow]

or win them*

[left marlin]

Zabatiz, it's still insane

No matter how you put it

[earnest hornet]

its Recruits

thats the whole point

[bitter snow]

it's 40k for banding together with 5 people (you have a 6 man ACC there, so more) on the lowest rares.

and doing 4 starts each

[left marlin]

Starting and winning L35 armadas is 200 pts each, thus I would need to start 100 armadas for my 20k points at level 37. Even more if I just take part.

[earnest hornet]

do the rares

[ivory shuttle]

and you need 16+ hours for that)

[left marlin]

Points are just by level, not rarity, I would have to lose, where we get back to bad design.

[rough mist]

hard to beat rares when you are ops 32

[neat barn]

i'm thinking it doesn't really scale well, i need to mooch off of much higher lvls to make it work

[pastel topaz]

The current suggestion from the people defending the event is apparently to just lose or hope you have higher ops people taking you along for the ride.

[earnest hornet]

you get the points by starting, also its, faster and the rewards are more

[final prism]

then, what is it good for?

[earnest hornet]

its not mooching its team work, or is that not what alliances are anymore????

[left marlin]

What rewards if I can not win that? Where's your logic, besides the obvious you are stating?

[neat barn]

for me it feels like mooching since i'm about 3 million under the next ship in the armada, i only jump in where there is 1 spot left and there is nobody else going to make it

i'm just canon fodder at that point

[grizzled mulch]

@keen ledge Are the Fissure SMS points balanced correctly? It’s not listed as “Heroic” on my end, and has a completionist trophy. Running 80+ UC doomadas seems extreme

[vital gyro]

will we get more directives tmoro?

[neat barn]

and there hasn't been a spot open for about an hour now

[earnest hornet]

then talk to your team, if they wont let you in because your lower, so you can do your sms, then what kind of team is that???

cos surely you have directives so you team needs you to start also

its not mooching thats called being a part of a team, and helping each other

[neat barn]

most of us lowers went to the lower ones

also can only do a 5 seater, so take that into account on the larger ones - i would cause their ships more damage on my armada than a 6 seater

really just waiting for most of them to finish and then some spaces to open up

[cunning atlas]

Ok I severely misjudged those rare doomsdays, not that bad at all 🤣

[silver pike]

The Calendar is for the events of the battle pass. Not the actually events that score bp points

[pulsar fossil]

So if an alliance can’t kill the rares and has to do lvl 35 or 39 uncommons. It’ll take 100-133 armadas. Given a 5 minute timer that’s between 8-11 hrs to finish the SMS. I find that completely unacceptable even for a 48 hr event

[vital gyro]

but but but but but, you can win the lottery then do the event, theres always a way stop blaming scopely!

[blissful moat]

What a stupid armada event!

[neat barn]

i was looking at 10 ish repairs to finish the event on rares, going to try a couple other ones

[earnest hornet]

I have 35s starting the, with a 5 person armada and killing them,

[neat barn]

oh yeah, absolutely possible

[versed osprey]

@pseudo rune why did scopely make an event where it makes more sense to die 8 times to a rare then complete it without dying?

[limber kite]

Does anyone know if it is possible to get enough completionist trophies to unlock Tandi at lvl 24 without purchasing anything?

[versed osprey]

if you completed everything

how much you at now?

[limber kite]

I dont have access to the Doomsday Armada event. it made me concerned. I have 23 now

And I have one event today that awards one trophy

[rough mist]

does 5 loot bonus work on rare doom aramdas?

[versed osprey]

guess so

[earnest hornet]

Yes

[cunning atlas]

How is it that killing doomsday earns points for Cerritos event? Don't have any exo active. Do have lower decks on the ship, but killing anything else doesn't give points

[potent crown]

This is pure crazy, no possible way to do this and actually have a life at all for 2 days

[void pendant]

5 tier 4 epic ships (13m) can kill L40 rare

[hallow ember]

This can leave most of an alliance behind on many servers. Events that force you to choose your big guns only to finish them are a foul.

[weary niche]

This sms for the tendi milestone blows. 20k sms target, each L39 armada scores 250 points if you were the one launching it. They want me to kill 80 armadas in 2 days? Sorry I have a life! And were not strong enough to take a 40 rare

[covert arch]

This event is a joke

[twilit otter]

The rares aren't horrible, easier than normal rare for sure. but i get it, it sucks.

[silver pike]

That sucks but you could try the rares they aren’t as hard as normals

[brazen pewter]

So we just lost to a 39 - our strongest ships didnt even come close to beating it. How are we supposed to do it?

[vivid gyro]

https://youtu.be/RNn3XVbnMy8

[silver pike]

There’s a video from DJ about crews etc etc 👆

[south arrow]

26 rares is a little much scopley

[icy beacon]

If my maths are correct, the doomsday armada event, me as a lvl32, taking on lvl35 armada's, assuming a 100% success rate, I will need to do 100 armada's. That's 8.4hrs solid of armada's

[pastel topaz]

The current recommendation is apparently suicide to rares if you can't kill them. Or I guess do a mix?

[uncut coyote]

Yeah, this is a debacle. Terrible event and especially after stringing people along with the recruit tendi sms. Cringe.

[mellow zodiac]

Was gonna share similar maths.
8 hours nonstop armada-ing in the middle of the working work, and then gotta find time to do dailies.

Insane.

[abstract gate]

How are people making this so hard?

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-thats-what-she-said-gif-4084628

[brazen pewter]

Thanks but this vid isnt going to make our Sallys beat 40s ..

[silver pike]

True you need some decent sized G3 epics at least for those 🙈

[naive dock]

g4 epics?

[twilit otter]

Not true?

g3 epics are fine if decent tier.

[silver pike]

G3 epic ships*

[silver pike]

Yes I meant G3 😂🤣🤣

G4 epics are overkill 😂😂

[naive dock]

yea, 4-5m g3 epics do the trick for rares

[abstract gate]

Don’t even need that much

[silver pike]

You can go with less as long as you have 1 or 2 around 4 mil

[clear delta]

Scopley just had to make sure they got at least one unbearable horrific event into this arc. More proof their bonus is tied to customer complaints. The more complaints the higher the bonus. Only explanation for such inept work ethic

[abstract gate]

@pseudo rune players below ops 30 are offered 1 trophy today, while players above ops 30 are offered 2

Poor thing barely gets a shot off

[twilit otter]

Dude you linked g4's 😛

They're talking 3's

[abstract gate]

Yeah, but the point is the armada doesn’t even get to shoot at half of them.

[silver pike]

Candle confirmed tomorrow you will get an event for the trophy you didn’t get today

[abstract gate]

And that’s a 43 not a 40.

These are super squishy.

[granite lark]

This event is complete trash it would be fine if you didn’t have to do it get a stupid may trophy

[naive dock]

All brackets need to do 40k score?

[twilit otter]

No

[silver pike]

Depends on Ops I’ve seen some at 15k and some at 60k

[pale kestrel]

46 ops is 50k

[silver pike]

They really are 🙈🙈

[abstract gate]

This is good news

[naive dock]

I feel up to 39 bracket sld be 2k score (10 uncommons), 39-41 5k score (50 uncommons or 2 rares), 42-45 10-20k score

It's not well scaled

[silver pike]

Op 37 is 20k

[naive dock]

Jesus

[frail river]

These Doomdays armadas are pointless. This event is a complete waste of time.

[naive dock]

Why not make the SMS easy and let the ones who wanna keep going compete for the SLB

If Scopely wants people to be active, give us something fun to do, not work

[heady agate]

I will not waste my time with this 😉

[silver pike]

20k took me just over an hour to do.

[abstract gate]

Slacker

Got 59k points in 50 minutes 🤣

[silver pike]

I spent 45 mins on here 👀

[naive dock]

Yea, I'm at 32k cause I get kicked by some whales, so 42+ brackets are ok

It's the lower brackets that are too much

[neat barn]

the event doesn't scale well with lower lvls

[brazen pewter]

Honestly this is making me ponder to quit the game - i've been double checking every event to make sure I dont miss a Tendi event and now I get this one which is just not doable with an ally that hasnt got any epic ships yet and the official feedback sounds like "lol get gud"

[naive dock]

u can finish it somewhat fast by starting rares in a group and failing

[pastel topaz]

There's not really anything "official" yet.

[frail river]

How hard is it to figure out a way for this to scale for everyone? It’s like they used the same formula that allows higher levels being able to wipe out lower level players with ease.

[devout axle]

My level requires 15k points and we can only really defeat the 32 and 35s. I would have to start and defeat 100 lvl 32 armadas to complete this........in 24 hours

[silver pike]

48 hours ☺️😉

[naive dock]

Do rare 43s in a premade group and fail. U'll finish somewhat fast.

[devout axle]

Oh well then it's doable........not

[naive dock]

Send 3 ships each, start 3 armadas at the same time with the same group. 750px3 = 2250 points every 5 mins.

[uncut coyote]

Great for those who have bought directives. Not as good for those who can’t/won’t.

[naive dock]

With 5 people and 3 rare armadas each u can do from the free gifts it's 15 armadas, so that's 11250 points. After u just top up with uncommons or if someone has enough for an extra rare u can do that as well.

It's a pain in the ass, but still doable within a reasonable time

But yea, Scopely didn't scale this well for lower brackets. Quite unfair.

[silver pike]

There’s been loads of free directives being given out. There should be enough to get your SMS’s done especially if you have saved any directives from previous runs of the armada events

[uncut coyote]

I’m on a newer server. So none have really been given out. The way to finish this expeditiously is to throw ships at rares and epics. Which is not super tenable for me.

[naive dock]

The AMS gave a good bunch if u finished it

[uncut coyote]

Will try to form a group like @naive dock said. I’ll see…

[naive dock]

The SMS from yesterday as well

Also the free gift

I had no directives 2 days ago and got 130 when the event started today

And still getting some

[uncut coyote]

Yeah, I have directives just none stored from previous events

[silver pike]

You won’t need the ones stored from previous events those are just extras if needed

[hasty lintel]

Lvl 33 and I finished it already, it’s doable and its a 48 hr event

[uncut coyote]

@naive dock I got to say I let my emotions get the best of me. Thank you for breaking down the logic. Feeling goofy now. Glad to have discord as resource!

[cyan bough]

what is the best crew for the doomstay armadas?

[naive dock]

Don't worry about it. I still think it's unfair people that can't kill rares are asked for more than 5k points. Either reduce the points or raise the points given for uncommons.

[pastel topaz]

The scores are definitely too high.

[mellow zodiac]

2 1/2 hours of D. armadas. Bored now.

[deep steeple]

Does PMC work against the lvl 40+ worms I'm sure they never used too but it was a long time ago I was hitting those

[abstract gate]

They always have

[abstract gate]

Same as regular armadas 🤷‍♂️

[celest cloud]

They work... but don't work as well as all types of worms have mixed weapons.

[ashen linden]

Why does the game say invalid armada and then blows everyone up?

[abstract gate]

That is a common error message, it says this sometimes when ya win/lose. Not sure why tho

[nova valley]

hey buddy! sorry for my delay. i was forwarded your PM and asked to come help you. have you got it figured out yet or can i help you out? i've been spending time on my discord doing math ahahhaa and someone from your server showed me your pm. i wanted to make sre you knew you didn't have to do all those uncommons. matter of fact, you probably SHOULND'T e doing uncommons at all unless you wanna play in the SLB.

[wicked crown]

did anyone notice that sometimes there were players on the other server in an XSLB list that were purple (as though they were alliance members)?

[viscid dune]

Am I reading the doomsday machine AMS event right? I need to kill 7500 worms for, or 75 amada?

[pastel topaz]

AMS is meant to be completed by completing SMS events.

[abstract gate]

Supposedly people with the same alliance tag

[viscid dune]

I see. Feel it's a bit ridiculous for one person.

[pulsar fossil]

I just got home and was about to watch some videos about it. I saw some have finished already so there must be an easier way. Hopefully I’ll have it figured out soon

[nova valley]

absolutely. i'll pm you some info if it helps?

i've put up a video and also postd a text guide a bit ago

[restive burrow]

Doomsday armada event is majorly flawed…
If we do an uncommon we get 50pts… for 1 armada directive…
Go up to Rare @ 50 armada directives, and we get 1000 points.
So forgive me if my math seems off, but 50 * 50 = 2500..
So where’s the sense in getting less for spending more directives?
Or more accurately, 20 points per directive for running a rare armada.
Anyone else have this question?

[odd orchid]

Based on my table of rewards per directive, one should never run epic. 39uc have the best points/directive (210) but will take ~~forever ~~ a long time to complete the SMS. 43r are 55 pts/directive, but will go fast (if you can kill them).

[nova valley]

great question! this event was designed with a fork in the road. if you choose the SLB path, then uncommons WILL score more. but oh man the extra time you'll put in is gonna be a super super grind. ANNDDD the uncommons pay no salvage. so the armadasthemselves will pay you no rewards.

the second path is the salvage path. do the rares. get the salvage without having to compete in an SLB. AND save a ton of time. the salvage is the big reward cause of the tos recruit chest. very low dilutin and very good officers.

but you coudl't not really travel boh paths. you'd have to choose one vs the other. great question though!!!

[nova valley]

AH love it! the epics will pay MORE in salvage rewards. but they are NOT mathematically incentivized for this event. which brings me back to my original statement. this event was allllll about the rares. which is why more rare armada systems were added for this event!

[odd orchid]

Per armada, yes... more loot per armada, but I figured that it is less loot per directive... so one should run four 43rare versus one 50epic.

[nova valley]

great observation though! sounds like yu're mathig out the correct path to play! awesome!

[celest cloud]

Indeed, the Epics offer nothing of interest compared to running Rares, except taking less time.

[nova valley]

mmmm that depends. the big ones do pay out a lot more i think. especially when you consider g4 rare ships with their lootbonus. and their well developed 5of11 cards, big lot bonuses. the bigger thebase, the bigger the bonus.

[celest cloud]

Applies equally to the Rares, run 4 of those and you get more salvage parts

[nova valley]

i agree! especially since they're much much harder. lol i don't think my tem could even kill one. they're kinda nasty lol

[nova valley]

well, the base is lower i think. it's a good question though. what's the base payout of a 43 as compared to a 45. lemme look. i have that data.

[twilit otter]

2250 v 5k

[nova valley]

here's BASE payout on a 43 rare.

[twilit otter]

oh you mean those

[celest cloud]

On my server, the Epic 50s give 249-258 base salvage per win, the Rares give around 75.

[nova valley]

so you divide that by 5 or 6 depending on power, and then apply loot bonuses.

[celest cloud]

75 x 4 = 300

[nova valley]

the 45 epic is this:

so @celest cloud is right. 4x the lower amount is better than the higher one.

[twilit otter]

for 4x the directives.

[nova valley]

WOW GREAT CALL!

haha it even further reinforces my position all day. DO THE RARES! hahaha

[celest cloud]

Only thing that might make a difference is the leader's chest on the Epics, but I've no idea what that is.

[nova valley]

i bet its not good. did you see the leaderschest on the rares?

😹

FOUR

lmao

[celest cloud]

Yeah... Same as the random chest, I think.

Don't spend it all at once

[nova valley]

hahahahaha

[twilit otter]

at least you get 25 for hosting

from the other event

[nova valley]

which was also why i suspect tht this kobiyashi maru event was launched. it's linear. infinity. it's just enhancement to the starter chest.

start 50 armadas. get paid 50 times. start 1. get paid 1 time. it's aesome.

[pastel topaz]

It's literally just a rebate mechanic.

[nova valley]

and even better. you can get 25 out of the 29 from the starter chest EVEN IF YOU DIE lol

no no, not rebate per se. cause it's not diretives. it's extra/bonus salvage.

be right back. phone call. ping me your questions!

happy to help!

and also check #📺-streams-and-videos if you need a quick video tutorial. and join my discord and then click here for a admittedly too long guide on the whole thing in text:
#704683427739467836 message

[tawny notch]

will there be a mining event tomorrow?

nvm. found my way to #💫-event-information

how many doomsday events should there be today for a 23?

im getting rewards for events that i dont have

this is all i got

[pastel topaz]

There's an armada event for Ops 30+ as well.

[tawny notch]

shouldn't there be an ims?

[pastel topaz]

That's the TOS event, it's not in the Doomsday folder.

[tawny notch]

oh, i see now

[mellow zodiac]

Ohhhh I get it now. 🤦‍♂️

[tawny notch]

im not even damaging them

just spaming armadas for the 50 pts each

lol

[pastel topaz]

50*50 is not 5000

[tawny notch]

lol

that is false

no its not

its 50

[pastel topaz]

Rares are 50 directives a start. Uncommon are 1.

[tawny notch]

no it is not

it very clearly says 50 points for spending

[pastel topaz]

50 per directive.

Rares cost 50 to start. 50*50. Uncommon would be 50 per as they only cost 1 to start.

[tawny notch]

ok

i'll give it a try

where can i fine a rare doomsday armada?

[nova valley]

there are 4 systems now.

i'll give yo unames for copy paste. stand by

[mellow zodiac]

Between fed and rom space

[nova valley]

Napiar, Owlbuth

Kordindr

Enzocas

@tawny notch

[restive burrow]

@everyone

Commanders,

We've been taking in the feedback about today's "Doomsday Fissures" SMS and would like to thank you all for letting me know. We understand many of you feel the uncommon armada points are too low, and for some the rare armadas may be a bit too difficult to complete. We also agree, that starting a rare armada with the intent to lose does not make for a good experience.

Effective immediately, we are doubling the points earned for defeating and losing to uncommon armadas. The points will be tracked correctly immediately, but the visual representation on the score table will take some time to appear in-game. These points will go for all uncommon armadas defeated/lost to moving forward and will not effect point totals from past armadas.

We'd like to thank you all again for the feedback so we could adjust in real time to make for a better experience.

LLAP🖖

-Eco

So basically Scopely says they errored but now they’re fixing it… oh but all the crap 💩 you already killed… meh, sux to be you…
What a crazy response

[true gorge]

So yet again, those that have spent all their directives running armadas the past 4 hours are the beta test losers for scopley…..

Can’t wait for my 5 epic officer shard compensation that won’t help me rank in the slb and alb….

[pulsar fossil]

The other issue with not being able to kill the rares is that we don’t get any extra worm pieces, so officer sourcing is still a problem

[full egret]

Do we get extra if we completed the event before you fecking changed it?

[pulsar fossil]

If they would have just put in some lower level rares this could have been awesome

[molten cloak]

Will they never learn?!?! Don’t change an event halfway through! Spent all my directives on rares to finish the sms but would’ve done uc for the slb if points had been doubled.

[waxen galleon]

@pseudo rune wow, thanks for the update after many already spent all their directives.

[full egret]

We hit lvl40 rates

And won them I may add

[quartz fox]

I gotta say, having @pseudo rune here has resulted in a very quick response from Scopely to issues in the game. Thanks @pseudo rune !

[molten cloak]

Quick response doesn’t equal good response

[quartz fox]

Thanking @pseudo rune, not Scopely. 😉

[formal birch]

just for the record may medails after today 2xsms are 4 to left right ?

[full egret]

I need 5 but missed an event

[nova valley]

nobody spent all their directives on uncommons lol

[north vessel]

Uhhh, why aren't the points changes retroactive?

[errant lark]

So how much are doomsday armada worth now?

[shell escarp]

So all the effort for slb is wasted.

[north vessel]

That's total bull

[molten cloak]

No but I spent all mine on rares cos it would’ve been crazy number of uc on the original scoring…

[devout axle]

Thank you for upping the points but how did you not anticipate this before launching the event like this.

[nova valley]

i understand why scopely did what they did, but you are STILL better off doig what you did. the salvage you earned in a fraction of the time is more salvage than any player doing uncommons will earn unless they grind for the SLB.

[waxen galleon]

And?

[molten cloak]

But dog! 😱

[nova valley]

the rares were intended. and teamwork was intended. most alliances have players that could have helped the smaller players get their points.

[nova valley]

so as i just posted, you're still better off having done them on rares. because of the officer shards.

[shell escarp]

I really wanted the dog avatar. And now my chances are next to nothing

[nova valley]

hahahaha

[north vessel]

I take it back

Thought you guys messed with slb/alb scoring too

Carry on

[nova valley]

nope. this is jut for SMS completion.

[pseudo rune]

^

[tawny notch]

@nova valleythank you

[weak gust]

So next time we should wait until the next Day to Do some Events. The last few time the Events Point got changed After the Players Feedback and the "Completed" Players get no compensation

[north vessel]

I'm a fan of your content btw =P keep up the good work!

[molten cloak]

Was actually surprised how much fun it was and yes the big boys helped us get the rares done. Will still never forgive missing out on Dog though.

[hexed kettle]

This has been my takeaway for a while now. Not the end of the world, and maybe they'll get some better quality control going with the new feedback and such, but until then its probably best not to fly out of the gate right at Noon EST on new events.

[shell escarp]

As eco just clarified in another channel, and as mentioned in notification, the change is for sms only not slb

So still chance of getting dog. Yay😁

[devout beacon]

@pseudo rune how about adding doomsday armada directives to event store. Then a solo player can get tendi maybe for free too. Its not possible for me as ops49 without getting more directives. Is spend most of them last hours and can’t make the last step needed for tendi without paying…. The points increase comes a bit late…

[molten cloak]

Yes I saw. Problem is I looked at what was needed to do sms with uc so decided to do rares so no longer have directives to spend…

[molten cloak]

Really good idea

[devout beacon]

I mean if the points where at the high count from beginning i could do 133 uc39 to make last step. But now my directives are spend already for some rar 43

I did it just because with uc it wasn’t possible anyway

[tawny notch]

scopely wants you to know

screw you and your opinion

spend money then

[forest bobcat]

Todays doomsday event was a total clusterslap. Yesterday one event and today you throw events at us like they were bananas. That’s bananas. Nothing worked as it should. Game repeatedly crashed due to player overload in the system. After a hard days work all I want is a chill gameplay, but scopley managed to achieve the exact opposite.
I could go on with complains but I will just leave it here. My request is that how events are distributed should be reconsidered. 🖖🏼

[tawny notch]

yeah, but if you fail. you can always spend money to catch back up

[proven bluff]

@prime flax @pseudo rune WFT? Changing scoring in the middle of an event and once again screw over players who started when the thing went live. This is getting really old

https://tenor.com/view/dumpsterfire-flooding-fail-gif-13031064

[nova valley]

thank you bud!

[tidal storm]

4.5 hours after fissures event starts …you double the points … after I spent oodles on rss to complete event .. well done Scopely ..I’ll do events next day ..new strategy

Another badly thought out event

[pseudo rune]

The idea was not to try and diminish or offend those who already completed it. I apologize if it felt that way

[nova valley]

you probably still come out ahead having done the rares. cause of the savlage. and then just your time component. the uncommons will not pay officer shards. the rares did.

[tidal storm]

Failed to,achieve that goal

[pseudo rune]

I decided to take the time to gather the feedback before speaking with the team on this adjustment. In the future, I'll try and be better about communication and that it's something we're investigating

[proven bluff]

Nobody thought that people who had already spent directives would be offended? 🤦‍♂️

And how about people who spend 3-4 hours trying to move up on the SLB and had a strategy based on points available per directive???

[hexed kettle]

The issue isn't you or your timing Eco, the issue is launching events without really thinking through the time or effort needed to complete it. Its not all that hard, especially for events that are repeats of previous ones. The team responsible for creating events really needs to get some experience with their own game on the team.

[nova valley]

if you spent the directives on rares you are still being paid out more in rewards. i believe that the uncommons path will give players a better path to the tendi trophy. but actually REDUCES your rewards in the armada SMS cause of the lack of officer sharsd via salvage. this is another choice. and another choice is always good. but if you take the uncommon route, you're still making a sacrifice.

[vivid gyro]

If people can’t recognize that you did something and communicated it in a timely manner, we all need to stop there. Tough call to make.

[restive burrow]

@pseudo rune perhaps if “the team” understood fast nickels versus slow dimes… stuff would be more profitable.

[pseudo rune]

The SLB is not being affected by this change. It's only for the SMS

[nova valley]

if you ere chasing the SLB, then the uncommons were always the way to go. so that strategy woudl't have changed.

mathematically anyway

[proven bluff]

Seriously? A level 39 uncommon costs 1 directive. Rares each cost 50.

[tidal storm]

The “feedback” started within 4 mins of the event starting… and it was voluminous…

[abstract gate]

How many more tendi / trophy events are there after this? Im too lazy to look 😆

[vestal grove]

Jeeeez scopelys best again....why double points instead of half the need

[nova valley]

right. but you got more points from an uncommon win than 50 rare wins. so if you ere chasing salvage, rares were the way. if you ere chasing the SLB, you'd have a TON more time in it, but all SLB's would requirethat, and you'd wanna do the uncommons. more points PER directive.

[vivid gyro]

The loot was the intent.

[abstract gate]

Yes, and you get Officer horns from rare.

[hexed kettle]

This definitely would've made alot more sense 😆

[pseudo rune]

The idea of the event was to have more Commanders try and take on Rare armadas. We felt that the reward for taking these on over uncommon was better and so we had the point system in place to incentivize that. We found that some alliances without stronger players to help were having an unideal experience so we adjusted based off those findings.

[tidal storm]

It makes more sense NOT to events until next day ..once people have translated what the events actually mean

[vestal grove]

Yeah grown-ups would think that way 🤣

[hexed kettle]

Anyway, thanks @pseudo rune for your efforts.

[proven bluff]

It makes more sense to actually test the events in a sandbox with people who actually play . . . but one again, we are paying to be beta testers

[true gorge]

@nova valley think the wording of the announcement is what has everyone in an uproar. If this is just effecting the SMS then few will have been effected if they have already been using the directives. Many (like myself) saw the line “doubling the points” moving forward and immediately thought this would effect the leaderboards.

[shrewd bone]

Anyone know how many more tendi trophies there will be ?

[tawny notch]

i wrote that event off

[tidal storm]

No longer @proven bluff

[tawny notch]

it stopped scoring a week ago

[abstract gate]

People need to think what this would have been like before @pseudo rune. Loadsa shouting, Mods trying to pass feedback back but much less engagement with them from Scopely and it would have gone the distance with people hurting all the way.

[tawny notch]

or

[abstract gate]

This change is proof positive of two things.

[tawny notch]

they can bug test first

[nova valley]

that's a good pont. but yeah, the SLB/ALB are unaffected. this was just a thing to help players get closer and with a better experience to their Tendi trophy.

[nova valley]

there was no bug technically lol

[tawny notch]

i remember games before discord

they worked

[abstract gate]

I did the event in 45 minutes.

[south sigil]

totally, if SLB was getting double for uncommons I would be pissed I had wasted my directives on rares

[proven bluff]

@pseudo rune I know you are not the root cause of this problem. Scopley is broken and we are stuck with the choice of dealing with this every month, or abandoning our friends

[abstract gate]

Pretty sure not missed an event but seem to be a couple points behind

[abstract gate]

It was not difficult.

But it was easy because of circumstances of our alliance.

[tawny notch]

why is there a doomsday armada in swarm space?

[molten cloak]

10/10 for reacting and the fix for the sms was spot on but it really messed up the slb. Changing the milestones for lower level players might’ve been less disruptive?

[abstract gate]

No it didn’t.

Stop making it up 😆

[pseudo rune]

Added another message about this NOT affected the ALB or SLB

[nova valley]

what are you referring to?

[abstract gate]

They still won’t read it 🤣

[pseudo rune]

It does not affect the SLB or ALB

This change ONLY affects the SMS

[abstract gate]

Well you do say “SMS”, but hey, they already picked their pitchforks up 🤣

[pseudo rune]

Well to be honest

[proven bluff]

Thank you for the very important clarification

[pseudo rune]

I haven't given you all a chance to yell at me in about a week or so

I had to mess something up right?

Not trying to make light of your concerns

[abstract gate]

You messed nothing up.

[pseudo rune]

I think everyone has great feedback

[tawny notch]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-austin-powers-firethelaser-yell-gif-18236836

[inland hamlet]

Making it easier lol thought 24 rares was easier than 130 unc(double points) or 260(b4 change) so yep slb would've been unaffected unless somehow people did armadas solid for 2 days

[abstract gate]

The issue is on some servers like-minded players gravitate together.

On others, smaller players are left to make little alliances where they get helps from each other and that’s it.

In the latter scenario, there’s nobody to help drag them through the easy option, and that scuppered them.

Predictable but only if you’ve encountered that.

[inland hamlet]

Tbf 2hrs after launch. Everyone was out of directives, been stuck at work..

[abstract gate]

Really? Ours are still running 4-5 armadas at a time 🤣

[inland hamlet]

Lol they did rares

[abstract gate]

I’m gonna see if it’s worth making a run at the SLB tomorrow when everyone’s done their SMS, I didn’t wanna bump people and cost them that.

[abstract gate]

So did we 😆

[inland hamlet]

Our night-shift taken a hammering

[blissful dragon]

I think I had 300 directives at the start of this event

[inland hamlet]

Got 219 left

[inland hamlet]

Not even started

[tawny notch]

at a time?

[abstract gate]

I missed Wormada arc as I’d quit, still had plenty 😆

[abstract gate]

Yep, most have got two ships in there and still having to send mine into the odd one because they’re struggling to get across to them.

Big old systems 😬

[inland hamlet]

Shame can't convert the worm cells needed to warp

[abstract gate]

Dead currency

Sit and look at it in your inventory and remember the good times 🤣

[inland hamlet]

Bigs wereain issue doing them with just 2 people.

Some people just can't wait

Basicly if you had 6man team just from those 24 kills you should be min 53k in slb

[abstract gate]

We did the 50 for a laugh, think the whale wanted to tick that one off so bought a pack with directives 🤣

[inland hamlet]

No ones even close

[pastel topaz]

Speaking of dead currency, wasn't there going to be a way to do something with all those ship bps we have for the old ships?

Something that isn't just endlessly build and scrap them?

[abstract gate]

Me, 20 minutes into the event

[abstract gate]

They’re useful built and scrapped for the G3/G4.

[abstract gate]

But that's exactly what they want you to do

[pastel topaz]

Yeah, I'm not going to build and scrap a Vahklas instead of a Mayflower.

[inland hamlet]

Except they don't scrap for g4

[abstract gate]

Yeah don't do that. This has been a complaint forever

[pastel topaz]

And building it to immediately scrap it is pointless.

[inland hamlet]

They cost g3 to scrap to g3

[abstract gate]

Oh yeah, don’t scrap Vahks.

Don’t build them.

Just leave them glowing green.

[pastel topaz]

Which is part of those "old ships" I was talking about.

[abstract gate]

Old ships is a matter of perspective.

[silver pike]

Scrap ops 26 ships and above ☺️

[abstract gate]

With a lot of efficiencies you might get a little g3 out if it, but not worth the trit and ship xp

[silver pike]

😂😂😂

[inland hamlet]

Why lvl 45+ hostile still drops them no idea but maybe @pseudo rune can sort it

[abstract gate]

If you go a bit deeper they seem to not drop anymore

Remember to some of us this is an old ship

[pseudo rune]

I was actually talking about that a bit with someone today! No news for now but maybe in the future =]

[abstract gate]

I’ve already got two built 🤣

[inland hamlet]

Agree loot table needs a boost

[ornate geyser]

I guess it's my turn to complain...I can't remember a less enjoyable, more pointless event than the ridiculous armada grind required for the SMS. This is horrible.

This is just mean and hugely disrespectful of people's time.

[keen ledge]

Can I ask, how much of that is related to the armada sms specifically and how much is because there is also that worm hunt sms?

I have feedback from quite a few that it's just too much when put together like this, which is why I'm curious.

[vivid gyro]

So don’t do it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[ornate geyser]

Haven't even started the worm hunt. Lost track of how many armadas this took (lots of rares, yes). This is nuts...and can't be spaced out over two days because it requires the right alliance mates to show up. Which means it requires lots of screen time in tight windows, because the Venn diagram is the intersection of everyone's availability.

[keen ledge]

Fair feedback. Thank you. I was in 6 hours of back to back zoom meetings, so it was tough to count as I did things.

[ornate geyser]

I'm in a 75 person alliance...I can't even imagine how brutal this is for people in medium and small alliances.

[white veldt]

do rare and epic wormada directives still exist

[silver pike]

1 directive type for all 3 armada types

[ornate geyser]

Appreciate you hearing the feedback - thanks for all you do!

[white veldt]

@silver pike did the other types get removed?

[proper spade]

So I choose to finish the sms with rares because Tendi and not compete in the slb. Now they change the scoring tables when I've wasted directives..oh yeah, let me go buy more now? Pass. This sucks.

[fading swift]

I'm sick of this game and the way it operates! Instead of sticking to the standard formula in which buying the $100 elite battlepass allows you to unlock the epic officer you decided to lock it behind an unrealistic goal locking me from getting the officer! I'd you are going to make those changes you need to be more clear on what is happening! I will never buy that pack again good job scopely

I'm a lvl 46! The amount of rss required for that spend event were ridiculous!

@pseudo rune

[silver pike]

Idk I just know that uncommon ones are used for the rares and I assume the epics

[white veldt]

perfect ty

[keen ledge]

What would have helped make it more clear? Something like a schedule of Tendi events specifically? An IGN about it? (Genuine question, no sarcasm)

[nova valley]

TYPICALLY the elite battlepass would STILL require material spends lol

if there was a meta.

[fading swift]

No! Usually just completing standard events plus ticket events is enough in regard to the new officer that f you buy the $100 pack but now because of the unrealistic goals of the completion event I won't be able to unlock her

Had I known I would have spent $20 on the battlepass and $100 on the feesha pack instead. But now you want me to spend an additional $100 on top of what I would normally and it's not happening

[bitter snow]

I can - the original cut of rescue the crew where you scored by taking hull damage, and spending trit on repairs 😑

[abstract gate]

I’ve never seen an epic officer prior to these new formats that you got by buying the $100 pack

[alpine portal]

Intentionally losing armadas to complete an event is no fun at all! 🤮

[abstract gate]

Fixed now

[alpine portal]

Im also fixed, but its a senceless event, and no fun. Just ridiculous.

[burnt peak]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fading swift]

It's not just the $100 purchase but events along side the purchase that make it possible but now I won't be able to because the bulk of the officer shards are locked behind the stupid monthly event

[nova valley]

i don't think this isactually true at all. every month has a meta requirement for spending mats and/or directives. and usually more than 1.

dating all the way back to the meta starts in october.

[abstract gate]

But why can’t you do it?

[nova valley]

with the exception of ghrush.

[abstract gate]

What is it you can’t do about this?

We can’t help with none of the information.

[bitter snow]

Considering the 100 packs let you skip ten points of event...

[fading swift]

The spend event at my lvl for rss is unrealistic unless I spend another 100 or more dollars

[bitter snow]

You could skip all the "hard" events for tendi if you wanted to pay

[abstract gate]

What level are you?

[fading swift]

Again I should have to spend an additional $100 for the officer

Lvl 46

[abstract gate]

The spend event is pocket money at our level unless you went all in for the SLB with no intention of spending to keep up with it 😬

[nova valley]

not ADDITIONAL. so if you wanted to spend 99.99 like normal. you could have and skipped 10 total events this month, including 2 materials spends and an ultra spend, plus 7 more.

[bitter snow]

Previous months you needed to score well in the SLB and do all sms events, or do all sms and pay for the big BP pack...

[fading swift]

That's why I'm saying had I know what this would entail I'd have just spent the $100 on the feesha pack and 20 on the battle pass to make up the points to unlock her

[abstract gate]

To be fair you can buy the $20 Disco skin and skip both spend events

That’s a bargain.

[nova valley]

well have you spent 99.99 yet? cause if you were willing to do that, then do it now and skip them all lol

if you've been perfect up tot his point, then just do the 20 pack and get 2 points and skip the next material event

[fading swift]

I already spent it on the battlepass that's what I'm saying!

[bitter snow]

Or the big one and skip both armadas, all three spends and both disco PvP events 😂

[nova valley]

oh. well, then do 20 bucks more and you'll be set?

[fading swift]

That's the point I couldn't complete the spend events

[abstract gate]

How can you complete neither spend event, after buying the BP?

[nova valley]

buy the disco skin and you'll be fine. 120 is better than not having her if you ere OKAY spending 100.

[abstract gate]

You been splurging between spend events?

[fading swift]

Again had I known ahead of time about how they were going to lay this out I would have just bought the freesha pack and been done with it

[abstract gate]

You mean like in an #💫-event-information channel?

Or the in game event calendar?

😬

[bitter snow]

You mean that message on the 6th that listed it all?

[fading swift]

I just started using this not to long ago they need to have it in game

[bitter snow]

Surely not

[abstract gate]

It is.

[nova valley]

the ingame calendar is in the big viewscreen in your base

[fading swift]

I purchase the battlepass the day it was released and saw nothing until after the purchase was completed

[bitter snow]

I usually leave that til later in the month for exactly that reason...

[fading swift]

I shouldn't have to

And the calenders don't always appear when you log in

[bitter snow]

There's no benefit in getting it day 1

[fading swift]

Sometimes they pop up mid session

[abstract gate]

Always accessible

[bitter snow]

Patch notes are in the info screen within the day of event launch usually

[fading swift]

And the goals are still unrealistic

[devout beacon]

I give you an other viewpoint. I am ops 49 and need 60k points in armada sms. I am solo player currently for good reasons and that means to get tendi free i just needed to do 240 uc39 what was not possible with given directives. Now it would be possible with 133uc39 whats hard but ok to invest some more effort to get a free officer… Problem: the points adjustment was to late i have nearly no directives left. It’s frustrating to realize its now definitely a 49€ spend needed… and to be fair makes no sense to get an armada pack because each other give tendi without effort on armadas.
Maybe its still possible to get directives in event shop so i can decide to get tendi f2p with more effort.

[fading swift]

I purchased it at reset

[abstract gate]

Yeah they’re not.

Spend event at 44 is completed with one building.

[keen ledge]

Thank you for sharing. I was, for about 6 months, in an alliance of 5... so I know it is difficult to complete some of these events like that.

[abstract gate]

Pretty sure it’s impossible if solo to unlock as f2p

[fading swift]

No I completed a research and barely hit the first milestone

[abstract gate]

Yeah you need to spend somewhere around 10k G4U

[fading swift]

With those timers it's unrealistic unless I spend more

[abstract gate]

Where’s all your lat?

Or your speedups?

[nova valley]

there may be a strategic benefit to you to do some resource management; saving and spending at the proper times.

[fading swift]

I spent them to unlock those research for event

[abstract gate]

You had no easier ways to spend G4U?

[abstract gate]

How’s your vaults?

Science buildings?

Docks?

Guns?

[fading swift]

They are all done

Have been for weeks

[abstract gate]

Been doing stuff outside spend events?

What about some ships to upgrade 😅

[tawny notch]

never

[fading swift]

As I said I had to speed the 375 day research to open the ones I used to complete first milestone

Each gun on my ship costs 17k unc

4*

[abstract gate]

Done in one then 😆

[alpine portal]

@pseudo rune so we get the armadas back we allready spended?
Whow about thinking first before launching.
Simple math i need 15k points, i get 150 point for an armada, soni have to solve 1000 armadas
Each 5 minutes means 5000 minutes, means with repairing time 10 hours.
The math is, either i stop to play, coz i dont have the time for this, that means i will spend no more money.
Or I quit my job, then I can no longer afford the game.
I don't know of any serial company that treats its customers so ruthlessly.

[fading swift]

I was 1k short of the gun

[nova valley]

this math isn't exactly the way it worked lol but if you gimme your ops i can help you path out a plan.

[abstract gate]

The company bled most of us dry within the first year 😆

[alpine portal]

31

[fading swift]

I've almost had enough aswell

[nova valley]

okay. so do you have any larger players in your team that can help carry you through any of the larger ones?

[fading swift]

I've spent 10's of thousands since day 1 and I'm done spending

[alpine portal]

31 im done allready with loosing armadas. Ridiculous

[fading swift]

They don't listen to us anymore

Atleast that's how it feels

[abstract gate]

Theres nothing good about any events anymore. Not sure why people seem surprised. Game has been stagnant for ages

[abstract gate]

So you’re done but you’re not done?

[nova valley]

welllllllll. true talk, if you did it with rares, then you still, in my opnion, did it the right way even if it was less enjoyable. cause you got salvage with yourstarts. if you do the uncommons you won't get the salvage. and if you happen to kill a rare you'll get more salvage. those translate to officer shards in the recruit section. if you default to the uncommons you got 50x the time put into it and less rewards.

it may have been frustrating, but you did it the right way

[rough mist]

Cerrito research only applies to you right?

[abstract gate]

Correct

[nova valley]

correct

[rough mist]

not another players ship you boost?

[alpine portal]

Of course i did it with rares, cant play hole night, i have a job.

[fading swift]

No honestly with this arc I've seen almost a dozen players I know and respect quit drop from the game and I'm starting to see why

[abstract gate]

Bizarre

People keep saying this sort of thing but I’m enjoying it, as are others.

[nova valley]

well. take solace in the fact that you got paid better than someone doing it with uncommons at least LOL

[fading swift]

A player with a 200mil corzier just had his account deleted for all the nonsense he was a 56

It makes me sad to see them driven from the game

[abstract gate]

Granted, the events have had some “minor” work in places to fix them.

[abstract gate]

I’d put good money on it being the “return to work” changing play habits and they’re finding it difficult to put time into the game.

Enjoyment is an easy thing to blame when you feel you’re not drawn to it.

[fading swift]

I work out of country at times so I may miss and event or 2 so making it an every day event is also unrealistic for me

[alpine portal]

Sometimetimes i think, their playmakers are kids, coz a lot events who where bad, you even dont need a calculator.

[nova valley]

hey guys. thanks fo hosting me today! we're doing a live broadcast tonight around 0100 UTC (sorry it's late, i'm at work) so come hang out and we'll talk about it! in the meantime, ya'll have a great night! 🙂

[abstract gate]

Its the same churned out rubbish every month in a new outfit. People will get fed up eventually

[tawny notch]

i think some doomsday directives should be handed out for how they handled this event

[fading swift]

I'm fed up now! Have been for weeks

[tawny notch]

1/2 points for rare

double for uncommon after everyone spent them

cant even get enough for 1 more from events

[alpine portal]

I have no directives now anymore. 👿

[fading swift]

They need new management if this is how it's going to continue

[nova valley]

rares weren't changed

[tawny notch]

exactly

1/2 points

5000 for uncommon. 2500 for rare

same directives

thats pretty wack

[nova valley]

because they still have the extra rewards of the salvage.... the uncommon change was only to help players get the tendi trphy.

you want the salvage, you still gotta do the rares.

[tawny notch]

not for me

[nova valley]

that leads to the officer shards. the extra payout from the rares that the uncommon doesn't have.

[nova valley]

maybe i'm misunderstanding.

[fading swift]

Your not the only one who misunderstands the player base 😞

[tawny notch]

what salvage?

[nova valley]

from the armada itself my friend.

the uncommons pay steel. lol the rares and epics pay salvage.

[tawny notch]

90% of the players on my server cant do them

[nova valley]

whih leads to the recruit chest. which is ULTIMATELY th epayoutof this event.

[tawny notch]

its just spending to fail

[nova valley]

i'm srry, i can't possibly believe that 90% of the players can't do it lol whatserver are you on?

[tawny notch]

81

there's barely anyone over 30

[nova valley]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. welllllll okay. i can buy that. well, if you can't do the rares. then you eren't gonna get the salvage. so all you got you could do is the uncommons for leaderboard if you want the salvage. just gonna take sooooo long

[tawny notch]

and the uncommons are double points. while rares are 1/2

[bitter snow]

Or die to rares for speeds sake

[tawny notch]

seems wack

[abstract gate]

Only on the SMS.

[tawny notch]

theres only enough directives for 1

2 if i finish everything

[bitter snow]

No alliance? I have enough for 4 rares...

[tawny notch]

kinda wack that it takes 100 directives to get 5000 points

but 50 to get 5000 on uncommon

[abstract gate]

On the SMS.

[tawny notch]

thats all there is

[abstract gate]

You don’t have an SLB?

[tawny notch]

i posted the events

[nova valley]

WELL, that was the original intent. the rares are worth more in rewards, so they get LESS points than doing 50x the work for less payout.

[restive burrow]

Really? That’s the most insulting thing anyone has ever been dumb enough to post…
So now that some people tried to get a start on the event… we’re criminals and victims simultaneously???
Wtf 🤬 is that for reasoning!

[abstract gate]

What?

[tawny notch]

but its works out differently when you cant beat either

[abstract gate]

Drink less, eat some 🥦

[fading swift]

@nova valley are you a part of the dev teams?

[nova valley]

huh? and that wasn't talking to you.

however, yes, for someone to spend materials outside of the materials spend events, but then complain that they don' have enough materials. that's not real good planning whn an event calendar is posted.... i'm sorry

[tawny notch]

like spending directives before devs changed the scoring

[nova valley]

no. just a player who tries to plan according to the event calendar.

[bitter snow]

Also the events follow a similar pattern each month...

[tawny notch]

yeah. there's usually a few that are bugged and cant be finished

each month

its a bad pattern

[lime eagle]

How in the f do we do the startup event i dont got 5k armadas lolol

[bitter snow]

I hate wormadas 😂 but I'll take the fastest route I can to get round them

[fading swift]

Then with all respect I don't need you commenting I need the dev team to comment and explain what is happening no offense to you

[abstract gate]

Bro 🤣

[tawny notch]

they couldn't care less

[nova valley]

it's just meant for enhancement of the starter chest. it's not meant to be comleted. the event text is called starter bonus

[tawny notch]

then they might

[nova valley]

it's just meant to pay exra salvage.

[bitter snow]

Is that the one that says "not intended to complete" in the description?

[nova valley]

with all respect, why can you comment and i can't? lol

[abstract gate]

Because HE’S THE VICTIM!!!!!

[nova valley]

i dont' take any offense. i'm just saying, i've tried helping explain this event all day. it's helped some people. other people it hasn't. no biggs. just hangint out having a good time lol

[tawny notch]

the suggestion for rares was nice

dispite my misunderstanding

[fading swift]

No because they need to acknowledge us. You can comment to be sure, but I am looking for them not you

[nova valley]

i hope it helped! and i fully acknowledge it's not as fun to just die for points. BUT at least you'lls ave time and get your salvage. you won't go home empty handed lol

[tawny notch]

but it's pretty crappy the way they handled it

[bitter snow]

Aside from eco, that'd be a first

[tawny notch]

they owe us

[bitter snow]

No, they don't...

[tawny notch]

tendi event has been broken for 8 days

wont progress

[pseudo rune]

That is the first I'm hearing of this

[nova valley]

okay i really gotta go now. ya'll have a good night! tune into the pod in a few hours! we'll talk about it!

[bitter snow]

What?

[pseudo rune]

If you're having issues with the event please let me know and contact support

I've had no other Commanders saying the event isn't progressing as intended

[fading swift]

I will not be tuning in but good luck

[tawny notch]

ive been completing everything aside from maybe 1 sms

tendi event still at 8 points

[fading swift]

The event is ridiculous anyway but thanks for finally showing up and commenting @pseudo rune

[alpine portal]

We have issues, no we have a lot of fun
(sarcasm)

[bitter snow]

8 pts remaining?

[tawny notch]

total

ive written it off

spend or dont try

[weary flint]

So, I from my point of view (new ops 22) can't complain about this arc. I got the Discovery T2, Franklin T4, D'Vor T1, Arrok, Fess, Rutherford and maybe Tendi from it. Sure, you can't please everyone and for higher levels it may have been less.

[abstract gate]

If you’re at 8 points it doesn’t matter what you do, you’re spending to unlock Tendi 😆

[bitter snow]

Probably should have raised that sooner...

[tawny notch]

yep

[abstract gate]

You need to get in touch with support

#👽-how-to-contact-support

[tawny notch]

i did

not in support

[abstract gate]

And they said?

[tawny notch]

but its probably the 4th time ive brought it up

i assumed it was intentional

[abstract gate]

No you need to bring it up with support

Not whine on the community Discord, raise it with support.

[fading swift]

That is what I have been trying to say! Support is useless and the event is ridiculous especially for those of us who get sent to other countries for weeks at a time

[bitter snow]

Support are literally the only ones who can help... So well done shouting at the empty room I guess

[abstract gate]

@pseudo rune I have heard that tomorrow players sub ops 30 will get an extra sms to make up for the trophy missed from not having armada event. As it stands today, f2p sub ops 30 players can have 22 points, while 30+ players can have 23. Is what I heard true?

[nova valley]

screenshot??

[nova valley]

this is confirmed.

[abstract gate]

You were going

Worm armada points are stupid

[nova valley]

how is thiseven possible? lol i've not gottne one single report like this

[abstract gate]

😆

[nova valley]

i know i know. i'm trying to help. but you're right. i'm leaving

BYYYYYE

[abstract gate]

I’ll do what I can.

With a smile if they play nice 🤣

[bitter snow]

https://media.tenor.com/images/2d721e1f9e1136e224ffcbebc1a7e6e9/tenor.gif

[abstract gate]

Seriously @tawny notch, #👽-how-to-contact-support

[fading swift]

I don't care about words just action and the team has been failing for months now

[pseudo rune]

Sub 30 ops will have another event tomorrow to get a trophy

[bitter snow]

Contacted them about anything of substance?

Or just assuming?

[pseudo rune]

What issues are you having that you have questions on complainer?

[abstract gate]

If you have not contacted support using those methods, you are not getting any help I’m afraid. Nothing personal, they can’t do it if you don’t tell them.

[fading swift]

I contacted 3 times

[pseudo rune]

About what issues?

[abstract gate]

Unfortunately the switch from single spend auction (which it sounds like he wouldn’t win now anyway) to meta event doesn’t agree with his work schedule.

[fading swift]

It doesn't matter now I got my answer

[abstract gate]

There will not be a solution that pleases everyone, and I’m sure if you explain nicely to @pseudo rune he will feed back that there are people negatively impacted by the otherwise overwhelmingly positive change to meta events.

[bitter snow]

I too would have preferred something other than all or nothing...

On the plus side, tendi is working well on my vidar 👀

[fading swift]

I got bent over for my purchases. The only way anything would change at this point would be if they swapped my elite pass with the feesha pack for the tendi points because had I know I would have bought that instead and just spent $20 on the pass to unlock it as still get tendi

[bitter snow]

Caveat emptor?

[abstract gate]

I think a threshold that permitted some limited missed events might be more considerate, but we do need to acknowledge the perceived value of these officers and the difficulty there is supposed to be in obtaining and tiering them.

[fading swift]

I know they can alter our accounts at will they just want the extra cash for something that wasn't made clear in game until after I made the battlepass purchase

[abstract gate]

But you got everything in that pack?

[bitter snow]

Hell of a storm overhead here, nonstop thunder ⚡

[fading swift]

The only thing it gave me was shards that are now useless

[tawny notch]

well snap

[abstract gate]

Seriously, all this fuss from a self-confessed spender; either get the Disco skin, get back on track and be happy, or ignore that it doesn’t matter that you don’t have her as she’s not a make or break officer 😆

[tawny notch]

my tendi sms points just doubled

[abstract gate]

Cool, now all you gotta do is buy a big pack for 10 points and you’ll be back on track 🤣

[bitter snow]

Or you misread earlier? Since I doubt you gave anyone game id to fix it yet

[fading swift]

I refuse to spend another $100 for something I should have already been on track to get

[abstract gate]

💯🥳🤌

[bitter snow]

How many points you short?

[tawny notch]

my bug reports have been almost entirely through their website forum

[crystal stream]

Wow, even at doubling, you would still need to. Run 66 level 39 armadas to finish the event.

That is only 4.5 hours of constantly running armadas.

[tawny notch]

i try to give detailed bug reports

[fading swift]

3 I believe because I have up after the spend event

[tawny notch]

and i didnt want to put out the free lat spending bug to ruin server balances

[fading swift]

So now it's spend $100 or go without

[abstract gate]

Well you made that bed 🤣

[fading swift]

I'm just done with it all

[tawny notch]

its a marathon.

not a sprint

[fading swift]

I work out of country in the desert I don't always have internet

[tawny notch]

especially cellphone games

[abstract gate]

I’ll say this as nicely as I can muster; it sounds like for the most part you’ve bought your way to every success in the game, and having stopped spending are having to learn the whole “playing smart” thing.

It is a massive culture shock, but it is entirely doable.

You just can’t play the same way and expect the only price to be the rate of progress that you make.

[fading swift]

No I quit spending months ago and have done just fine

Almost a year ago

[tawny notch]

XD

{0:NO}

[abstract gate]

The big ouchie this month is the two spend events, but if you hadn’t thrown your toys out because you missed one event you could solve it with a $20 Discovery skin.

[fading swift]

That is why I bought the feesha to begin with. To bolster my capacity

[tawny notch]

or a $127 treasury rod

lol

[abstract gate]

Rod doesn’t give you points

[fading swift]

I work out of country IN A DESERT I don't always have internet

[tawny notch]

im ok with spending existing

but i won't spend for an event

[fading swift]

Unless I want to drive 3 hours to the city

[tawny notch]

on principal thats a dirty move by scopely

[abstract gate]

Think they will put the skin in the store again at some point? I'd probably buy it but I don't have disco yet

You keep saying this. I appreciate this point, I have said if you approach it constructively with Eco I’m sure he’ll raise that the meta events do lead to casualties.

[abstract gate]

More than likely, I’d have said.

[fading swift]

I tried 3 times with support that's why I'm angry here. Nothing is getting done and we are suffering for the lack of help

[abstract gate]

Three times with support for what though?

[fading swift]

About the issues with the event and how difficult it can be to complete

[abstract gate]

Support are an operational support function. They do their whole “we’ll pass on your feedback” thing, but they’re there for when things break. They’re not player advocates, they don’t really do the living/breathing/how it works in reality thing.

You need Eco for that.

[tawny notch]

actually. were suffering from the help this time

because they just doubled the points for those who were late to the party

[fading swift]

So they fix 1 issue of how many?

[tawny notch]

and the rest of us get nothin

[abstract gate]

For the SMS.

[bitter snow]

For the sms, which doesn't affect you if you're already done

[abstract gate]

Do you really hate everyone else in the game that much that their being able to complete it as a result of your feedback is an issue?

[tawny notch]

math is hard

[bitter snow]

As is reading 😅

[tawny notch]

where are the armadas?

in the ALB

[bitter snow]

What are you complaining about then?

[tawny notch]

they doubled points for those who were late

like i keep saying

[bitter snow]

Not in the leaderboard

[abstract gate]

What?

[bitter snow]

Only the sms that you're too low level to get

[tawny notch]

i get 100 points for 1 doomsday directive instead of 50

how is that not double?

[abstract gate]

In the SMS.

[tawny notch]

the ALB

screenshots posted

geeze

[abstract gate]

That’s an ALB.

The points aren’t changed in that.

[tawny notch]

but they are

[abstract gate]

Stop complaining for long enough to read the things that have been posted.

[tawny notch]

ive tested this

[bitter snow]

In the banner, or in the breakdown of alliance member points?

[tawny notch]

it awards 100 pts

[bitter snow]

For defeating one

[tawny notch]

no

for spending 1

i havent defeated any as ive stated

[abstract gate]

They haven’t changed the spend rewards

[bitter snow]

Where are you seeing the gain?

[tawny notch]

when spending 1 point

100 pts awarded for the ALB

it was 50 this morning

[bitter snow]

If its the banner, then it's because someone se started an armada between yours