🏆-event-chat

[royal carbon]

I don't see any Amalgam BP in the event store. Did I miss anything? OPS 33

@jaunty fable @barren hemlock @elder gyro #🌌-galaxy-chat message

They will add the names of the other server's players in the future

[elder gyro]

was a joke to server 32

[desert laurel]

Amalgam bps are joining the Cosmic Cleanup event store, won't see it for another few hours.

[formal birch]

i wonder how many ,,claim,, need to unlock full amalgan 😄

[wintry cypress]

You need to buy the bps in cosmic cleanup 13 times

You get 8 bps each

[formal birch]

ah ok didnt know that

[copper phoenix]

How’s everyone’s cross server events going?

[formal birch]

ok so 3monts not bad

[wintry cypress]

Very well actually

[wintry cypress]

5 months. You can exchange 3 times a month

[formal birch]

i halready saved 400 tokens 😄

so basicly need 9x more:D

[wintry cypress]

Alright, that makes sense then 🤣

[formal birch]

i was scare they do like sarcofad 4bp per week to take it to full year 😄

[wintry cypress]

But the sarco aint really worth the effort unless your server is still pretty young

[copper phoenix]

In my hostile event grouping we have several folks in the server previous to us. A question….is there usually a big power difference between two consecutive servers?

[wintry cypress]

In my case, it isnt. 177 vs 178 and we are basically same strength

[copper phoenix]

I’ve been hostile grinding since 6:00pm continuously and put up 2.2m. These folks are able to put up several million within a few hours

[wintry cypress]

What ops range are you in?

[copper phoenix]

I’m 34.

[wintry cypress]

Then there is a rather simple explanation

[copper phoenix]

They must be able to reach dark space

[wintry cypress]

No

They just hunt capitals

so 49s

A 3 million augur or enterprise is completely enough to do so

[copper phoenix]

I have a 3m E

[wintry cypress]

Do you have a max pmc?

So Pike, t3 moreau and max chen?

[copper phoenix]

Not familiar with capitals

Close

But not maxed

[wintry cypress]

Without max chen, dont bother trying

[copper phoenix]

Chen is maxed

[wintry cypress]

Bot those are the capitals

Dont hunt the heavies, only the standard ones

24 million power but beatable

[copper phoenix]

What system is this?

[wintry cypress]

Sol, Romulus and Kronos

Capital systems, only 49s in non deep space

[copper phoenix]

Ok, I’m in Sol

[wintry cypress]

Thats what I can do with my small saladin. An augur is way better at doing so

[copper phoenix]

What power is your Sally?

[wintry cypress]

It says in the screenshot 😅

[copper phoenix]

Lol, apologies

Nice

[wintry cypress]

An augur should be able to kill multiple

T4 suffices

[copper phoenix]

Still working on my Augur

[wintry cypress]

you can also try with ent but ent will do worse.
D4 even worse than ent I believe

[copper phoenix]

My E is tier 6

[wintry cypress]

Then go on, you should be able to kill multiple

As long as you dont hunt the heavies

[inland hamlet]

T6 et should e fine

[copper phoenix]

20 sec eta….lol

That was weird…says I lost but I’m still in system with half health

[wintry cypress]

yeah, you need multiple tries

You reached 100 round limit

[inland hamlet]

Yep hit it again till it dies

[copper phoenix]

Got em!!

[wintry cypress]

Nice one

[copper phoenix]

You guys/gals rock!!!

[inland hamlet]

Rince and repeat basicly

[copper phoenix]

I appreciate the help immensely

[wintry cypress]

you can also try what my server likes to call the "Selbstmordcrew", Suicide crew
Leslie as cap, kirk and moreau on the side

[inland hamlet]

Pain is normal ones spawn slow and heavy rip you to shreds

[wintry cypress]

that way, after a 100 rounds you have more hull than the enemy and you win

OR like that

[bitter snow]

Why kirk on the side?

[wintry cypress]

on an ent to keep shields to receive less damage than leslie regenerates

[bitter snow]

Aah

You didn't mention ent 😂

[wintry cypress]

ACT has an ent thats why i didnt mention it

[copper phoenix]

I don’t have Leslie

Where can I recruit him?

[wintry cypress]

You can only buy him

[copper phoenix]

Ah

[inland hamlet]

Pmc on normals is fine

[wintry cypress]

For 20$ with the rest of the pike crew

[copper phoenix]

That deal must not of come up yet

[wintry cypress]

Those guys + Hadley

[wintry cypress]

It only does a couple of times a year. Have seen it twice in my game time so far

[copper phoenix]

I’ll be watching for it. Thank you!

[surreal blade]

@wintry cypress you can be banned for sharing exploits. just saying. please remove your post above and stop encouraging people to ruin the game. thank you.

[rough frost]

It's not an exploit to use Leslie to kill 49 🤓

[wintry cypress]

That is how he works and not an exploit

[surreal blade]

not my problem, you're warned 🤷

[wintry cypress]

People already shared this multiple times here and they never got banned 🤷

[rough frost]

Saying Leslie is an exploit is like saying pike is an exploit ^^

It's how Leslie work that's all 😅

Carol + baby jelly was an exploit.
Leslie is made to be used to hit highter than you should

[inland narwhal]

This game is an exploit used by scopely

[earnest hornet]

Seriously dude?? First of you aren’t a mod here so you have no authority to say someone is to get banned or not,
Secondly using Leslie for what he is made to do is not an exploit.

[surreal blade]

First of i never meant such a thing, you're clearly overinterpreting
Secondly i'm not referring to that either

[earnest hornet]

Lol you literally said he can be banned for sharing an exploit (which is not an exploit) so no not interpreting wrong

[lost shell]

My favorite use of Leslie on the sarc is to do my cloaking dailies in the capital systems. Sarc cloaking is pretty cheap, and I have plenty of repair stuff. 🙃

[surreal blade]

can be
for breaking the rules, nothing new in here, it's the most common knowledge

[wintry cypress]

With me not sharing an exploit, enlighten me, what rule did I violate?

[surreal blade]

I consider that it was. you're free to disagree of course. I am merely trying to warn you about it.

[earnest hornet]

Well of course if he was sharing information on a genuine exploit he would get banned, not saying he wouldn’t,
but you mentioning some random informs about banning over using an officer for what he was made to do that’s not even an exploit??

[earnest hornet]

That what was an exploit??

[surreal blade]

for obvious reasons i'm not going to explain how it works
but some content creators are aware, and made scopely aware themselves.

[earnest hornet]

How what works? Leslie??

[wintry cypress]

Lets go through the rules one by one:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and no
Thats for the Red rules

Now for the warning rules:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no and again no

[surreal blade]

Leslie is not part of the problem in any way

[earnest hornet]

Then what the heck are you talking about

Nothing he has said up there is an exploit

[surreal blade]

the last thing i want is to see more people being aware of it
especially considering we all know how lazy scopely can be to fix some things
i just hope they do something about it, fast.

[earnest hornet]

Then pm me,

[wintry cypress]

Then PM me how I published an exploit. Maybe Im unaware and can delete myself once I know what the exploit is.

[surreal blade]

fine

[wintry cypress]

None of those officers do anything from what I can see so far

[earnest hornet]

Nothing he has mentioned does nothing the game isn’t designed to do

[copper phoenix]

If it helps….I don’t have Leslie. PMC worked on my E. Are they an exploit too?

[wintry cypress]

no. Neither of those are

[earnest hornet]

😂

[desert laurel]

pike?! 🔨 warming up

[earnest hornet]

😂😂😂

[inland narwhal]

I think the rules need updating to be not just the use of capital letters but the passive aggressive use of formatting 🤣 (looking an no-one in particular 👀)

[wintry cypress]

I dont get it

[inland narwhal]

Censorship of information!!!!

[abstract gate]

Last when I posted the 0 miner damage when sitting on the node with any ship.. scopes immediately fixed it in the next arc 🤣

But it was supposedly a feature.. someone said

[desert laurel]

if it was a feature, then it wasn't fixed, it was nerfed

[abstract gate]

🤣🤣

[compact heart]

when is the stella cargo going to be available to buy I'm sure it won't be fir free

[wintry cypress]

of course not, its a prikme

prime*

[compact heart]

they gave a prime away for free once over a year ago

[wintry cypress]

Yeah, because they messed up the bp rewards

[compact heart]

I'm sure someone lost a job on that

[surreal blade]

well basically we'll all have more free primes when they release new building
so that's that at least

[earnest hornet]

Well 3 primes

[warm quest]

There currently like 18 primes you can get for Free.

[surreal blade]

over how much total?

[compact heart]

if you wait they are all for free

[wintry cypress]

no

[chrome rune]

👀

[compact heart]

but I don't feel like waiting till over 50 to get the 5 star ones

[wintry cypress]

Ever looked at ata primes?

[surreal blade]

i don't think you can get G5 primes without being lvl 50+ yourself
no F2P ever made it to that point

there's even G6 primes now i think?

[earnest hornet]

ATA primes and territory primes can’t do for free, but there are 45 primes in total so far

[wintry cypress]

Territory is getting free though

[earnest hornet]

Yes

[wintry cypress]

Unlike ata

[earnest hornet]

Like I said above 3 primes will be with the new building

[compact heart]

I was referring to the primes we were talking about but yes I stand corrected those primes you got to buy

[abstract gate]

Those Stella and borg primes are useless for higher ops that can do 5* refines

People using 2, stonn, borg stonn on Stella and vidar to max cargo boost

Research is already giving mitigation and damage boost really

[warm quest]

The whales on my server just use the NOVA 😂😂

[abstract gate]

Money grab research

For lower ops

[compact heart]

the vidar cargo prime is for opc hunting the stella one is just to do everything else I hit like 6 lv 40s and my cargo is full on my stella so tiresome

[abstract gate]

If you got 80 above Stella research, can do with two Stella’s with non hostile crew and get the loot

Opc hunting ? 0_0 never seen a higher ops do this on 193 🤣

[compact heart]

in territory ppl opc hunt

[warm quest]

People OPC hunt in TC cuz mining Iso is boring.

[compact heart]

at least on server 37

[abstract gate]

On our we got GA and no one hunts oc in territory

We are farmers on 193 🤣

May be exception of one or two rare alliances which needing 2 and 3 iso

[compact heart]

the Meridian pc research helped but before there was times I'd go fill my cargo with opc return right away to find the same ppl opc again

[surreal blade]

same here with GA, all alliances that agrees to it can enjoy safer meridians, the few who doesn't are mostly too weak to have a real territory by themselves

[abstract gate]

I somehow feel like scopes is plotting with all the servers and controlling their roe based on spending habits

speculation

[compact heart]

territory were taken by the top two alliance and quickly other alliances feel into allies with them. they became king makers only allowing those they wanted in territories

fell

[gentle raft]

It's a real problem. There needs to be some form of attrition so lame alliances don't just sit there blocking the rest. Or maybe a quarterly reset. Or less max # of territories owned or just more territories all together or perhaps a cost to enter each time. So many things they can try to fix territories.... Instead an event to promote chaos

[pale kestrel]

haven't even seen merit awards in my away team missions in over 2 months

too many items get forgotten about like we don't see the apex events as often as we used to

scopely keeps adding things and leaving old stuff in but not accessible

[tardy ether]

I just contributed lat to the alliance & got no recruit rom points

[halcyon sentinel]

event description says, lat is only counted for research ships station upgrades

[ocean juniper]

What the HECK on the Rom SMS??? 100-pt sms… the possible scoring is 90 points???!!!???

[pale kestrel]

scopely is great at math

it's why we always have leftover items in our "other" inventory

[distant dawn]

that means that one of the 10pt events will repeat, my guess is mining or hostile hunt will be twice

[rough dust]

I don't get it. I just spent 6k+ lat leveling up my Stella to 45, and got no points... Does it only count for ship components??

[unreal vortex]

ready the info bar just buildings/research not speed ups etc

[uneven tartan]

I instant built a generator and no points

[barren moss]

Lat spend suprise suprise isn't working. Couldn't get it right last arc either.

[final vault]

Thought iss jelly event was today? Anyone seeing it

[silent cedar]

I believe jelly auction is 14th

[pale kestrel]

it does say ships

[unreal vortex]

yea not XP

[pulsar fossil]

anyone seeing the new cosmic cleanup item with the rare directives? I don't see it. The Amalgam BP are there though

[tardy ether]

I just spent lat on upgrading a ship (ship parts) and did not score in recruit rom

[karmic vault]

Ship upgrade didn't count, but research did

Building upgrade didn't count either.

[steady narwhal]

what does Recruit Rom SLB, lat spend count on?
didn't work for speedups, full building upgrade purchase, or ship component purchase.

[fervent grail]

A whole month to not get it right 🤔

[steady narwhal]

i did score by spending uc on a building

[spring comet]

lat spend on speedups doesnt work thats for sure

[grave lantern]

Lat spending is not working on recruiting either.

[median vigil]

Which is $copely?!?

[silent cedar]

"yes"

[steady narwhal]

lat spend did not work for:
research speed up
building purchase
ship component purchase

[cunning seal]

Lat spend is 💩 anyway, where's the cosmic armada bundle 👀

[wintry cypress]

Me stoopid again

[halcyon sentinel]

one good thing from today is they dropped the points needed to finish cosmic cleanup, at least for my bracket

was 1.5mil now 1.18 mil

small victories 😄

[fervent grail]

Imagine allowing people to score by using lat for speed ups, how tragic would that be

[pale kestrel]

no different than them using their credit cards

[karmic vault]

Mine just says Spend Latinum on the button, doesn't say on station or research.

[steady narwhal]

anyone get it to work, let us know.

[spring comet]

<@&509691205798592532> can u clarify the spend lat in the Rom shard event - Latinum spending for speed ups or building completion is not working at all.

[cunning seal]

It works, it must be used on the instant button

[karmic vault]

I see tactical advantage supplies in the Event store now, with the rare directives, etc.

[steady narwhal]

tried instant building. didn't work

[sharp sun]

Or, maybe they meant “buy latinum”…

Cuz, you know, $copely.

[karmic vault]

I get points if I instant complete new research (nothing if speeding up research). But that obviously doesn't work on things that need extra resources, and if you have enough research progression done, how many items don't need g3+ resources?

[steady narwhal]

this is BS. not working as advertiesed

[grave lantern]

I'm lvl28. Definitely misleading. Instantly tiered up a ship using Lat. Nothing. Bought ship parts with lat. Nothing.

[onyx topaz]

When did the auto attack of hunters not count in the event scoring? Did I miss the memo?

[karmic vault]

Been that way for at least a week for me. Apparently longer on some servers.

Presumably they took it out with the cross server stuff, since people could mass gather points easily.

[lost tide]

Instant built a dil generator using latinum, score 0

[vast aspen]

typical of scopely to mislead on event mechanics

[lusty marsh]

Using Lat for speed ups in buildings and research, no score. Using lat to instantly build a building, no score. Using lat for ship XP, nothing. What exactly are we supposed to do?

[thorn veldt]

@keen ledge they let you code events again ?

[onyx topaz]

Thanks mate

[dusty burrow]

I spend latinum to build dock instantly, then I spend latinum to speed up research. No points, too. WTF?

They changed description... Instant dock isn't station. Whaaat? 😣😯🤔

Definitely, no latinum speedups or ship XP.

Ok, I'm getting angry. Spend 39k latinum for instant parsteel generator. No points... WTF?!

[vast aspen]

lat spend has been removed...does that mean we will see some sort of compensation...doubtful

[rigid rampart]

seriously, can we get refunded for our lat that we spent for the event that didn't count?!?!

[hexed lark]

<@&509691205798592532> Why was lat spend removed from this event????

[dapper drum]

🍿

[charred shadow]

What about those that managed to instant complete a bunch of research and scored in the slb from it?

That gives them an unfair advantage

[tawdry minnow]

Because it didn’t work … see announcement

[earnest hornet]

It wasn’t a high scoring mechanism, you’ll score more points by spending mats anyway, unless they had millions of lat it’s not a huge difference

[earnest hornet]

So no not really

[twin karma]

Wow Scopely way to back door your customers! You going to fix your mistake?

[earnest hornet]

Well what would you have them do… keep it up so more people wasted lat? Or take it down cos it didn’t work properly.

And that’s your choice, you then wouldn’t have blown all your lat for it then either

[rigid rampart]

it's ok to take it down, but just refund the spend lat during the timeframe it was up

cheecky bastartds

[hexed lark]

They screwed it up. They should comp top reward to ALL players for the mess up!

[earnest hornet]

No

That’s not how it works

It was only on the SLB, not everyone was going to get top reward anyway

[charred shadow]

Disagree I can instant complete a research now that will use 75k lat

[earnest hornet]

Yea, look at how high you are on the LB, is that 75k lat worth it?? You know that’s the cost of rss and commons and speedups, That’s an expensive conversion cost

[charred shadow]

I have over half a million in lat I’m willing to spend

[earnest hornet]

I have players in the hundreds of thousands on the lb, 75k isn’t gonna change a single rank

[hexed lark]

Done Scopely! Not a red cent ever from me again.

[dapper drum]

lol have heard that so many times

back it up

delete the game

[tardy ether]

Pretty disgusting that the one unique feature (lat) to the ferengi arc and for the premiere officer event dies not work. Pretty sloppy work scopely

[charred shadow]

I could spend that on research that doesn’t even need g3 etc

[karmic vault]

You'd think they'd have better Q/A for a multimillion dollar company.

[charred shadow]

Actually I was going to do that very thing

[opal grove]

Average Scopely programming. So many bugs in the money-making software.

[dull estuary]

So did people already get points for spending Lat? Would've spent some earlier had I known it'd be shut off

[charred shadow]

They did for instant research

[karmic vault]

Well, to be fair, it does kind of tie in well with Ferengi... 🙂

[hexed lark]

Nope and can't touch 600k points with mats or directives so were just bu.tt rammed!

[ripe pumice]

I just spent 5k in latinum for scoring purposes and it did not apply! Bs, scopley need refund!

[harsh snow]

Spent 18k myself Raven.

Refunds all around!!

[charred shadow]

Anyone who instant completed research before they pulled it from scoring has a buffer on anyone who didn’t spend it before they pulled it

[peak cradle]

Spent 50k and it didn’t count

[charred shadow]

They need to put it back for research and compensate those who wasted on station instant completes

[karmic vault]

It doesn't help me in my bracket. The top guy's got 650k more points than I do.

[spring comet]

@keen ledge we appreciate that things go wrong with events etc but a lot of people have hammered Lat spending on that event removing it now and not even giving a chest as a sorry is Lame as, not your fault personally but surely u can see the point and backlash again with yet another event not scoring properly

[charred shadow]

At least with the research portion still scoring it would make it a fair slb for all

[keen ledge]

Having spent my own lat to test, of course I do. And that was pointed out to the team. All Mods can do, unfortunately.

[charred shadow]

My alliance mate scored 300k points with research before the scoring was removed

[spring comet]

hey we appreciate all u do here on the discord jess even if it is your fault always 😄

[keen ledge]

I swear, it isn't my code. No matter what they say. 🤣

[cedar laurel]

Scopley, give me my Latinum Back!!!!

[dire blaze]

Scopley must use the same planners as the Russian military

[ember walrus]

Now now the russians have things go right once in a while

[rapid zenith]

@keen ledge when are they going to bring a small stfc widget/rss/notifier, that syncs to game and alliance… which will solve issues of incorrect timed notifications, armada notifications, base attack notifications and important feeds while offline? 😁😁

[charred shadow]

Even if they refund lat, are they taking away the instant building completions? Otherwise free instant. What a mess they’ve created

[crisp current]

It appears I'm missing a mission chain

[charred shadow]

What is your ops level? I wonder if it’s not visible bc there’s a level requirement

[whole mist]

What about those of us who came late and didn’t have the chance to score with Lat and now won’t have a hope to catch up on the rest of the leaderboard?

[charred shadow]

Guess we eat cake. I was waiting for a research event

Alliance buddy didn’t wait and scored 300k points on research that didn’t use any uncommon or rares

They need to add back instant research complete

[marsh fox]

this is one more scoply F thing

[glacial mauve]

Where are the elite battlepas event tickets

[fair yew]

Yesterday I've payed 19.99 to unlock elite battlepass...money is gone no unlock..."dear"Scopely can you tell me why?

[mental tulip]

#👽-how-to-contact-support

[dapper drum]

19.99 only gives you the option to buy the actual pack at 499.99

[crisp current]

It shouldn't be a reward if it's ops locked..
Ops 30

[wintry cypress]

Ops 32 also no other missions

[charred shadow]

They should let you at least collect the mission and save it but Scopely didn’t have the foresight to put prerequisites on it to be able to start it

[whole mist]

I too appear to be missing the mission chain and I’m ops 35

[earnest hornet]

How much lat would you have spent??

[whole mist]

I have the best part of 50k lat saved up so would likely have used the lot

[dapper drum]

twelvehundredseventhousandninetybillionfourhundredeighttrillion lat

[mental tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dollars-amount-sEULHciNa7tUQ

[earnest hornet]

So that would’ve been 50k points, that’s the same as spending 5k uncommon mats, not really much of a loss, and more then likely wouldn’thave made much difference

[dapper drum]

enought to score top 100 easy

[earnest hornet]

It certainly wasn’t a main scoring mechanic, and wasn’t very high and the resources conversion costs wasn’t worth the spend of lat anyway

[whole mist]

Couple that with the mats that I would have used along with it for research etc and it could add up to more than that. Might not have been enough to top the leaderboard but the point is it’s now no longer a level playing field

[earnest hornet]

Nope the scoring wasn’t working that way, it was 1 point per lat, 50k lat spend was 50k points.

Again someone spending 5k mats would’ve outscored that amount extra

[whole mist]

You score by spending mats too so by using instant lat you would have scored for the mats and lat with each research

[earnest hornet]

No it was an instant build or Instant research so it wouldn’t have counted materials in that

[whole mist]

Would the mats not still have been used though?

[charred shadow]

Who are you to tell people what’s not worth something? I have over 500k latinum and prepared to use it along with g3, etc

[ripe jungle]

If it had uncommon or rare mats as a requirement it couldn’t be instanted

[earnest hornet]

No because you can’t instant research anything that needs uncommon or higher

[whole mist]

My mistake, thought you could

[ripe jungle]

50k points is 500 uc btw, not 5k, 5k uc would actually be quite a bit

[earnest hornet]

Using Instant replaces and combines all the resources and common materials and speedups into a lat cost.

[earnest hornet]

Oh that’s right, that’s even worse 😂😂

So instead of spending steel, trit, dilithium it would convert that into a Latinum cost, that conversion is stupidly expensive.

[earnest hornet]

And yes I get that the scoring is in combined with other material spend and armadas, but the conversion costs are so expensive, it’s not even worth it

I would rather spend that on xp or upgrading a ship

[charred shadow]

Again worth is relative

[earnest hornet]

And if that work for this on parts, then yes that would’ve been worth while,

[charred shadow]

Considering there’s that long research event that awards 20 Points for each regular research it’s extra incentive to burn through researches that don’t use uncommon or rare rss

For me anyways

[dapper drum]

you people

I just can't even

you don't get points for the mats used that lat is covering

lat is worth less than the actual mats used

[charred shadow]

I know that, just the lat

[dapper drum]

so by using lat you are only lowering your score potential

[charred shadow]

For the instant completion of it

[dapper drum]

which is all that counted

using it to speed up didn't

or using it to cover missing common or rss

so instant build only

[charred shadow]

If it was already started speeding it up did nothing agree

[dapper drum]

also #bringbackthetax

[charred shadow]

Aware

[earnest hornet]

We know that, dude, read the context.

[dapper drum]

the context has been people whining they can't compete now because they can't score using lat is it not?

which would have been counterintuitive to winning to start with

[charred shadow]

It’s not counter, there’s lots of research that only uses rss that wouldn’t score in the slb anyway

[earnest hornet]

Yup 👍🏼 and those could’ve been handy

[dapper drum]

well by most spend LB's that have come and pass you would need couple million lat

to make a difference

my bracket is usually 15m to 50m

[charred shadow]

I wasn’t planning to just spend latinum, it was a material supplement to my scoring

I won the last Lorca run with 1.5 million, only needed a million

[dapper drum]

and do you have million lat sitting around

because that is mute

[charred shadow]

Half a million

[dapper drum]

so nothing signficant

[charred shadow]

And I have more g3 to spend

It is in my bracket

Point is I know someone who scored 300k from lat spend, now I have to burn more g3 to catch them then if they didn’t score with lat, or if I was able to spend lat like they did

[crisp current]

I've submitted a ticket. Can't wait to hear the awesome response

[desert laurel]

the opportunity to score via lat was the same for both you and them

[charred shadow]

No it wasn’t

[desert laurel]

why not?

[foggy condor]

Fame wont load

[charred shadow]

Because I didn’t know they were going to remove it

[desert laurel]

neither did they

[charred shadow]

Wait so because they were online and scored before it was removed and I wasn’t online at the time makes it fair?

It’s a 2 day event, people are not required to drop rss in the first few hours

🦗

[dapper drum]

most people do

thats why we get people whining about entire events being pulled after first few hours

[mental tulip]

It's usually best to let the fools rush in and then play the long game to catch up, if you can.

It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

[desert laurel]

Well, the early bird got the worm this time.

[charred shadow]

Then I’m right

[desert laurel]

Your future SLB strategy should now contain the possibility of events/scoring being pulled early.

[charred shadow]

Right so basically scope can just change things whenever they want and it’s fine

[desert laurel]

this was not working correctly, they will pull stuff that is not working correctly or attempt to hotfix them

[charred shadow]

So basically buyer beware

[dapper drum]

actually yes its in the ToS

you do not own anything in the game

they want to remove some of your ships they can without giving you any reason

remove mats or rss as well

they can reset everything on you and you can't do nothing

or get a refund for it

you agreed to the ToS

[scenic obsidian]

Anyone else ha problem upgrading ships after they pulled lat out of the event?

[covert arch]

My only problem is, its telling me i dont have enough Mats, when i clearly have enough. this is so annyoing

[scenic obsidian]

ok have the same problem - do you know how to fix it?

[covert arch]

nope

[scenic obsidian]

nice

[covert arch]

Sometimes it works after multiple restarts and changing the ship

There was this "workaround" to just have more Mats than it needs.

As if that would be so easy

I mean, its a known problem, it cant be that hard to fix it

[scenic obsidian]

i can upgrade every other ship then my jelly...

jelly always the same problem - AAAAAAAAAAHH

i saved mats for event to spent it on jelly now -.-

[desert laurel]

It's a common bug, you'll need more mats/rss than initially shown. I aim for at least 20% more mats, and double the rss.

[covert arch]

See? thats not so easy for us "normal" player. we save weeks for events like that Rom event now. How are we supposed to get the extra mats?

[desert laurel]

if you post the upgrade cost screen, it's possible to pinpoint which is lacking

[charred shadow]

Aka don’t expect things to work properly so strategize and jump though hoops to make things work for you

[desert laurel]

it's a bug, it'll also be fixed. Until then, we have workarounds

[scenic obsidian]

everything looks good - never had that bug before

[desert laurel]

need to see your rss in the top right corner too

[covert arch]

Yeah, a known bug for months now. But fixing it doesnt make $copely any Money, right?

[charred shadow]

There are bugs that are years old

[covert arch]

true

[desert laurel]

it's gas you need more of

[covert arch]

So, how does he get it? i mean, before the event ends, of course

[dapper drum]

buy it

[desert laurel]

dabo tables? refinery? however he wants

[halcyon sentinel]

if the bug didnt exist he still wouldnt have enough gas though

[scenic obsidian]

nice - why is the second weapon more expensive then the first similar one? sorry but that is 💩

[neat musk]

lol according to screen he has more than enough but its another example of working as intended?

[dapper drum]

2 are energy 1 is kinetic

[desert laurel]

the client isn't capable of showing the correct cost, so yes, he thinks he has enough, but he really doesn't

[covert arch]

and if he already used all of his possibilietes?

[dapper drum]

better luck next time

SLB's are meant for spenders

[covert arch]

[desert laurel]

then skip the event, nbd. If you aren't positioned then you aren't

[covert arch]

wow

[scenic obsidian]

i upgraded first energy already was the same amount displayed and the second one is more expensive after upgrade - really guys - what do you pay the devs? cant be much...

[covert arch]

So, just hoping next time it works? oh come on

[dapper drum]

so the 2nd one updated to the actual cost

client never shows true amount

[wintry cypress]

It was the same amount displayed, but it probably took more

[desert laurel]

it's not necessary to hope, he can determine the exact cost if he wants

[dapper drum]

plus now with the new truncations and roundings

[desert laurel]

the workaround exists to make your life easier

[neat musk]

sorry your honour my client said i was driving below the speed limit but apperently the makers are incapable of giving a correct display

[dapper drum]

both are relative to one's own speculation

speed limit means nothing

[covert arch]

yeah, but if the game would work properly, what it should, we wouldnt need any "Workaround" that depends on spending money, we could just play the game as intended, right?

[dapper drum]

if the game worked properly people would realize they are more broke than they realize

[covert arch]

propably

[desert laurel]

a bug-free game is what is in everyone's interest, yes. But bugs happen, you have to adapt

[karmic vault]

They had screenshots of the developers hard at work yesterday. You didn't see them?

[covert arch]

And dont you think months old bugs should be fixed?

[scenic obsidian]

bugs for several month are no bugs they are a problem....

[dapper drum]

only bugs that get fixed are ones that prevent scopely from making money or ones that cost them money

[desert laurel]

they will be fixed, give them time

[dapper drum]

otherwise its of no concern to them

[covert arch]

another 6 months?

[desert laurel]

if that's what it takes

[dapper drum]

and those that keep funding them don't care either they will always continue to buy packs it is how they have been tailored

[wintry cypress]

This efficiency bug has been there for 2 years now. A content creator fixed it within months for pc version.
How much longer?

[scenic obsidian]

u dont spent enough time on operative then or dont have enough devs

[dapper drum]

only people that care about bugs are of no concern to scopely

[desert laurel]

I'm a player like you, not a dev or even an employee for scopely

[dapper drum]

fake news

Cand1e is scopely #1 payrolled employee

[covert arch]

Then i hope you understand why some of us are so annoyed

[scenic obsidian]

u are moderator and i'm sure there is a platform or board where u can announce problems and push the priority...

[desert laurel]

this particular bug is not 2 years old, there've been bugs that affected the client before, but this iteration is only a few months old

[hexed kettle]

A bug three times in a row with this latinum spend option on the SLB is pretty awful. Do they even have a test server where they can try these things before launching? At this point just cut the idea out of the arc.

[dapper drum]

lol @ test server

we are the test servers

[wintry cypress]

Ive seen this 2 years ago. I still see it today. What?

[hexed kettle]

Sure seems like it.

[dapper drum]

2 years ago it was the other way around

now it says you can build it when you don't actually have enough

before it said you couldn't when you did

[scenic obsidian]

if my devs would work like that i would replace them...

[desert laurel]

https://scopely.com/customer-support/#star-trek-fleet-command/en
has a list of bugs, I don't determine which has more priority than others.

[wintry cypress]

Sometimes you're lucky and it shows updated amount after restart

[dapper drum]

scopely devs are told to work like this

so they are doing their job

[desert laurel]

They know about the bug, and are working on it.

[scenic obsidian]

ok lets fire the cio then - probably he dont know his job...

what i still dont get is the fact that it is the exact same weapon with the exact same stats and its more expensive then the first one - logic? maybe ask a vulkan...

[wintry cypress]

Your first one was also more expensive than shown being my guess. It worked though, as you had the amount which wasnt shown to you

[scenic obsidian]

if it had been more expensive - the second one wouldn't be green on gas...

i was shortly over to get both

[wintry cypress]

So you had the exact double amount of whats shown?

[scenic obsidian]

not exactly but only 200-250

[wintry cypress]

Those can make the difference

Thats exactly the situation

Efficiency research is falsely applied

[scenic obsidian]

but scopely will never admit to that and of course spend u anything back.

[wintry cypress]

Its actually stated that this is the problem in #👾-bug-reporting
And theres not much you can do about it. Theres is a fix you can apply yourself for pc version only though

[desert laurel]

You can calculate the cost if you want. It's not overly difficult of a process, but you'll find that the server takes the correct amount away so be prepared for that

[scenic obsidian]

yeah but the problem will stay - when they fix it and i'm sure they will see they made a mistake - they will never give u anything back - thats how they work - nothing new

[halcyon sentinel]

there isnt anything to give back, i think you misunderstand

[desert laurel]

there's no mistake, lots of people have calculated it manually and confirmed with what happened in-game

[wintry cypress]

Gotta be careful with swearing here. This aint 177 discord C3

[scenic obsidian]

like the shield bug last year? player shields ran out before time ends got emptied and get dont even get back 10% of their rss?

come on u should know it better by now...

[wintry cypress]

Shield bug aint fixed yet either. Still happens. But now scopely is willing to reimburse the stuff you lost.

[scenic obsidian]

yeah after a massive shot storm - but the players from before dont get their rss back

why?

[wintry cypress]

Probably scopely being like "nicht rückwirkend"

[charred shadow]

What is the pc fix?

[wintry cypress]

Aint allowed to talk about here. Can give you details in pm

[charred shadow]

Oh I see 👀

[scenic obsidian]

and there we have the problem - if u make mistakes u should be responsible on any time

but its more important to get a high pay out...

[wintry cypress]

Of course. Money rules 😂

[charred shadow]

This reminds me of George Constanza trying to get his car back from the jiffy park and he’s getting nowhere with the attendant

[scenic obsidian]

and that is what makes the difference between companies like mine and companies like scopely

[wintry cypress]

Scopely is american. Your company most likely isnt so they got different ways of approaching stuff like that

[charred shadow]

Actually America is more consumer rights forward than lots of countries. Better than my own

[wintry cypress]

Still different ways of approaching issues like those

[charred shadow]

Example right to repair legislation

[covert arch]

Another question: we need 100 Points to get all the rom shards. but all events done only give 90? or is one of the events like 2 times?

[ripe jungle]

I think mining is two one day events

[covert arch]

then i i would be happy

thanks

[earnest hornet]

Wow we have had this event setup many times previously and it’s still getting asked 🙈🙈

[sudden ledge]

@keen ledge <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691611903426561> Just fyi the cross server SLB bracket is completely broken. In no way should 41 and 42 ops be in the same bracket. Ops 42 has access to 4* ships and higher level systems than 41 so why in the world they would be in the same event bracket is beyond comprehension.

Which makes it even worse

[halcyon sentinel]

im in the same ops bracket, top scorers on mine are just grinding the traders in sol/kronos/romulus, which we all have access to

sure, but they mention higher level systems

kill capital traders, do it with a jelly, g3 epic just as well

well like i say im in the same ops bracket a 41 using only jelly/g3 ent is in the top 3 here, just doing traders, so seems fair?

not that that many seem to be bothering much 1st is 130 mil points, 10th is 32 mil

could say the same about the jelly couldnt you?

though why you'd want to get a jelly that high tiered idk

oh thought you were talking about the 105 warp 50s

then same for unc42 ships, why would you be that high tiered and still at 42 then lol

'only' i think you're talking about the 1% of the 1% here lol

maxed at 42 lol

[halcyon sentinel]

so a normal player on your server had 92k epic g4 gas sitting around?

at ops 42

[dapper drum]

oh yes

totally believable

but not in one sitting

and definitely without a few packs

otherwise its 8 months to a year to get that

assuming they already maxed out their efficiency techs

[halcyon sentinel]

im still not buying it sorry lol

[dapper drum]

and thats a few packs a week

not just once

which isn't normal

taking a g4 uc to t8/9 isn't cheap

and if you are doing it through events its still going to take a very long time

oh is this about people whining being in same bracket as 42s?

[halcyon sentinel]

maxing an unc 42 at ops 42 makes you part of the 1%

[dapper drum]

let me guess they want to be in the same bracket as 39's?

[halcyon sentinel]

or a liar, either way

[dapper drum]

doesn't matter what your level is, any and all SLB's are for spenders

so don't whine about brackets

just don't do it

also #returnthetax

[halcyon sentinel]

ops41 there arent any packs in my store that allow me to buy epic g4 gas right now that i can see, so i need to buy it all at ops42?

how much will that cost when im guessing it's going to give 50 per pack lol

[dapper drum]

its normal to goto 42 and tier an uncommon to 9

[halcyon sentinel]

the 1%

[dapper drum]

atleast thats what I heard

[halcyon sentinel]

totally

[dapper drum]

couple years of speedups to get shipyard 42 built as well

I do this every other wednesday

[halcyon sentinel]

i just wish people would say occasionally, 'ok maybe i exaggerated a little there' lol

it was t6 or something lol

[ripe jungle]

I’d say ever maxing a 42 ship makes you 1% of the 1% lol.

[dapper drum]

no

tier 12 42's are common

I have 7 of them and I'm only ops 40

thank you jelly brawl and si vis pacem para belum

never mind how I got the rare and epic parts

[whole mist]

Is it just me or these points not add up to what’s required to get to 100?

[halcyon sentinel]

people say one of the events will run twice

[dapper drum]

lol optimists, in reality the last 10 points will be in a pack

[tall peak]

i din't know if it's event-oriented, but several of us are having connection issues (ie; red connect symbol) is constantly up and my game will crash. Is this a x-server event issue?

[earnest hornet]

I’ll ask you a question, what do you think will happen if it’s 10 short aka 90 total, and an event gives 10 points…. 🤔

Kinda obvious really

Since considering this has happened a few times before.

[main spindle]

Whats the final 40 missions keys for in the battle pass? i dont see any other missions in the event store to use them on

[mental tulip]

They're there to help diagnose players with OCD tendencies. Congrats! 😄

[nimble vine]

Anyone know what the ROA part 2 key is for? I dont see anymore missions, I got the first 2 for 5 keys each and finished them just finished the other one today and dont see anymore to use these on.

[charred shadow]

It’s called fire sales. I see it next to cost of business part 2 which I’ve yet to collect. I have the mission keys for both missions

[raven nimbus]

so amalgam bps in cosmic cleanup.. will only take 3 months to get a ship.. bloody pointless

[nimble vine]

Seems like longer to get it at 8 bps per event

[earnest hornet]

13 pulls will get the whole ship

[raven nimbus]

4,4,5 weeks is a quarter

[earnest hornet]

13 pulls, Yet we get cosmic cleanup 3 times a month

[main spindle]

@charred shadow fire sale was the 20 keys that we got in todays battle pass theres still another 40 keys to collect in the battle pass which have no mission in the event store for

[charred shadow]

Apologies I misunderstood. Maybe the mission will only become visible when you collect the keys

Surprise maybe

[main spindle]

Maybe

[winged dust]

This is the second time that i have had an eclipse hostile event for the battlepass. It isn't possible for me to complete. My biggest ship only takes out 1 maybe 2 lvl 27 before being destroyed my the next one. I just unlocked the Stella but have no blueprints for it. It would take me at least 18 4+ he repairs to complete the event. I'm ok with an ancillary eclipse event, but the main battlepass event sucks.

[karmic vault]

Yeah, it sucks, but that's why they say damage and not killed.

They know that a lot of people will get slaughtered by them without stronger ships.

You can also get points off an Exchange Armada if you've got alliance mates that are strong enough to do carry's for those.

[desert laurel]

it's doable basically for free for some players. Plant your station in rogue space, and load up a burn crew on an instant repair ship like a corvette. It'll take awhile, but it's an option.

[cobalt hatch]

G4 gas not registered for the event. What's going on?!!

[lost abyss]

Which event? For Rom recruiting it’s been working just fine. If for todays ticketed mining event…. It won’t.

[cobalt hatch]

It took 6 minutes to register for rom recruit event. 6 minutes!!! Insanity

[lost abyss]

They are just encouraging you to have some…. Personal… time away from the game every now and then.

[jolly tulip]

What is the minimum level for the epic luck chest?

Seems odd that you can get in the BP but cannot spend them

[earnest hornet]

You’ll get 1200 on the elite battlepass. Plus getting them in the current events recruit Rom SMS

[jolly tulip]

yeah but nowhere to spend them

[earnest hornet]

In the event store

[jolly tulip]

not showing under level 20

unless I need 800 or what ever the minimum spend is for it to show up

[earnest hornet]

Hmm ok, I’ll pass that on

[earnest hornet]

Send me a PM

[primal atlas]

Do you want to know why I am irked with this game? I spend rss like lat which is hard enough to come by and event says spend lat for points. And yet, that’s removed and I’m out of lat. very unhappy.

(First ever post here, hope someone other than content creators are reading this)

[unreal vortex]

Anyone know how a 34-36 bracket for the XSLB event the other guys on the other sever are 12-15 mill points ahead.. is there and area that we are missing? our sever is so confused how there getting so many points most on ours is 6 mills farming 38-40’s

[wintry cypress]

Probably hunting 49s in capital systems

[surreal blade]

it's basically the whales of the newer server, same bracket than you but got much stronger ships that enable them to completely break the event balance by grinding 49s in the only 3 pre-deep-space systems available

I got the same problem here

[wintry cypress]

you dont need to be a whale to do so. a 2.7-3.2m (~T4) augur is completely enough

[unreal vortex]

Yea that’s what we thought but just struggle I’ve got a t4 Augur but I can’t even dent any of them 😂 we thought a higher level person is damaging them for them and they are finishing them off

[wintry cypress]

Not the cheapest way, but definitely a quick way

[surreal blade]

that's still really high for an ops 34

[wintry cypress]

What were you hunting and with what crew?

[wintry cypress]

This is around standard on my server 🤔

[unreal vortex]

Yea was going to try the mudd bev crew

[wintry cypress]

Try PMC

But only on standard traders

Not the heavies

[surreal blade]

caus yours much older, some people camp there purposely so yes they have stronger ships

[wintry cypress]

My server is like middle age now. Around 2 years.
And how does age of server affect whether this is a standard or not?
This depends on how good people are researching

[unreal vortex]

Yea think someone must be camping there! just crazy difference! I’ve just tiered my Augur up to t4 so don’t have any of the upgrade apart from warp/cargo 😂 so it’s a baby Augur atm

[desert laurel]

bevMudd is a specialist crew, not a grinding one. You'd use it to kill heavies to spawn normals faster, and only one per hull. If you have a whale friend, he could kill the heavies for you

[surreal blade]

more time passes more mats people earn basic maths ^^
no-one on my server can yet afford such ship strength without spending hundreds
actually the best ship of several of our top 10 are still t4s
so definitely on a server a few months younger than us those there have spent a good amount to grind 49s already

[unreal vortex]

We have a few epics on our sever now but are server is a year old so 😅

[neat owl]

It is better than waiting for 2 event stores though😅

[surreal blade]

with luck we'll get half next event store
so under 2 months to get full ship 👀

[heady rivet]

This arc is useless, we do not want or need more mining officers or a rare version of Tlaan that will take forever to max

Bring back TNG

[versed jackal]

We got one at 12mil, but the jumps in score pointed towards a lvl 40 system, pretty doable with max chen if you got to much time. The brackets above on our server are dominated by those hitting capital systems as already suggested by others. But those scores are way higher so it is probably just a few very delicated players in 40 systems. Ofcourse you could watch there score jumps to give a better tell

[neat owl]

If you have been gathering the cosmic cleanup tokens, you can do 3 pulls of the same item every weak... so if you have enough, you can get an entire amalgam in 5 weeks or so

Though I'm priorotising second Vidar over amalgam since I need a second Vidar😅

[formal birch]

how you can do 3 pulls ?

[neat owl]

The timer is only 22 hours right

[formal birch]

u pres clam and hten u have 22h window from 24 -...s o 2 pulls

[neat owl]

Wait did they change the window? it used to be 48 hours

[desert laurel]

think they did

[neat owl]

I'm sure it used to be more than 24 hours

[formal birch]

i see on server175 event store finish in 2h

[neat owl]

I remember pulling Vidar thrice

[formal birch]

so ye 2 pull per event max

[neat owl]

Yeah just checked, it is same for me now too

[formal birch]

ok i was wonder there is some shortcut for 3 pulls:D anyway 3 monts for me anyway 😄

[neat owl]

Well even at 2 pulls a week, you only need 7 weeks

Unless they reintroduce the 48 hours window

[formal birch]

ye but you have jsut 3 cleanups per month

[surreal blade]

like if I had the godpower to know something more important than sarcophagus was about to come xd

I got none saved sadly

[versed jackal]

I just noticed the amalgaam after you guys mentioned it here. Thanks, though unfortunatly I also saved nothing 😅

[neat owl]

I just kept it because there was nothing good to spend it on 😅

[formal birch]

same for me i hoped they ll give amalgan one day to clean up so i didnt spend 😄

[neat owl]

But then realised I should get a second Vidar to make the probe grinding easier as well as be prepared for Vidar A

So started gathering those BPs

[surreal blade]

even if I has the sarco already I'd spent it all in special materials as I have an urging need to max my dvor ASAP, ops 35 is coming soon

[versed jackal]

I was so happy seeing that other new pack with rare armada sourcing 👀 auto spend without looking what else is new

[formal birch]

but mayb e they put some bp in event shop when arch end

[surreal blade]

thats what I'm hoping for yeah

[desert laurel]

was thinking about a 2nd vidar, but then I saw the CN cost of a max one, and nah

[versed jackal]

Could be a very smart move indeed, seeing recent introductions!

[neat owl]

It is not too high... if you do double pulls, it is just a 40 day grind to max it

[surreal blade]

also means putting a cross over some real amount of faction credits

that's what vidar is for after all, generating credits

_ _
eventually people figured its insanely useful pvp wise but I'm pretty sure it was not intended at first

[desert laurel]

it eats into my credit income, and I don't like that

I'd rather just farm twice as long

[neat owl]

Not sure how long it is till the voyager arc but assuming it is by the end of this year... I should have a second maxed vidar... and that is the arc where I assume scopley might revist the borg

[surreal blade]

@neat owl also even if vidar "a" is coming eventually... which I'm expecting too... theres no guarantee it would have any real use to have a second vidar

look at franklin a... once you get it the first one becomes completely worthless, apart eventually early on because lack of cargo space

[scenic kernel]

DS9 is rumored to start in July, I wouldn't expect Voyager until 2023

[surreal blade]

the "a" ships are meant to be an extension of the initial one for higher leveled players. the simple fact that both have an use is already a hole in the mechanics, which they could fix any time

[neat owl]

That is a fair point, and it with the past examples, it can go either way where frank A is better than frank, whereas feesha is different than dvor due to the node... but either way, having 2 ships for grinding is much better than 1 right?

[surreal blade]

sure but maybe it's no worth the huge amount of faction credits you're going to lose

your choice

itscalsp going to cost you some shiny crystal

[neat owl]

If the mechanic is similar to franklin, I'd have 2 grinding ships, if it is like feesha, one will be for new probes and one for the old ones, and if the new content is different, which wouldn't require a vidar, I still have something to grind the old probes ( for cheap.. since scopley follows this weird model where uptill 40s or pre deepspace, the ship is intended to be costly to upgrade but easy to use, and once that is crossed, it becomes easy to upgrade but costly to use), and also a ship with big cargo for opls

[neat owl]

I haven't been pulling faction credits anyway... It had been refining ind credits and ANPs but that too a little inconsistently

[surreal blade]

personally I'm going to wait, I'll play the game as intended, i don't like betting, I rather go no risk no potential loses ^^ I really need those faction credits

[neat owl]

I'm far away from shipyard 46 and the rep... so by the time I reach those, I'd anyway have enough credits for the pilum through dailies and events

[surreal blade]

lol I'm just a lil ops 34 here

[neat owl]

I'm ops 42 and already 1/4th there in terms of faction credits + away team credits... and I'm f2p so it will easily be a year till I reach 46

[surreal blade]

indeed

1 building a day I wonder how long I'll manage to keep that up xd
probably not long at all

[neat owl]

The small buildings help... I save those small vaults and do the "instant" option when some long upgrades are going on on the background

The instant option at low levels cost a small sum of lat, but less that what the dailies will give out in speedups ( assuming 100 lat for 8 hours)

But as you go higher... since the "instant" option accounts for both rss and speedup, the lat cost goes up drastically and isn't worth it

[surreal blade]

yeah I do that with my generators, I mean 1 "real" building a day

also don't forget when you get a new ship you'd likely want a cloak with it, so it's likely going to cost half more credits

[abstract gate]

You said f2p but you have two build queues . How ?🤔

[neat owl]

I don't have a second builder

That's why I need to do the Instant method

As you can see, though one of the buildings is being upgraded, I can still do the instant option

But not gonna waste more than half of my lat on a useless building now😂

If you have some small level generators to upgrade, like upto level 15 or 20

It usually doesn't cost much, usually less than 100 or a few hundreds

In game, 1 day speed up is 300 lat. My dailies pay speedups worth around 2-3 days ( cannot check since I already collected my daily, but if another 42 is around with their dailies uncollected, they can give a more accurate number)

But anyway, if the daily gives speedups worth 3 days for example, that is like 900 lat. So, as long as the building instant option costs less than 900 lat, I do that upgrade once a day

[earnest hornet]

Your wasting lat doing instant then, because instant is also using lat instead of the resources, your better off starting the build then using lat for the speedups

[neat owl]

Not always, at low levels, it is very efficient... like less than 100 lat for 2-3 days worth of speedups

But the higher you go, the less efficient it becomes

But then again, these new generators open up only at certain ops levels

[earnest hornet]

Honestly it’s not, because it’s cheaper to spend the resources and then use lat for the speedups

Because you using lat also instead of the resources

If your trying to be lat efficient

The lat for resources isn’t a good conversion

[neat owl]

Yes, but at low levels the total cost of lat for both speedups as well as rss, is still lower than what it will cost me in lat to speed up a different upgrade... like let me explain with an example:

Option 1: spend lat directly for speeding up
Cost of 3 days of speedups = 900 lat

Option 2: do the instant option to finish a daily ( when you are upgrading something else already)
Lat spent = <100
Reward = 3 days speedups
Cost of 3 days of speedups = around 100 lat

[earnest hornet]

And at ops 41 you get 22x 3hour speedups for your building daily

[neat owl]

Thanks for this

[earnest hornet]

Dude no it’s not cheaper cos if the lat cos is that low you aren’t using a 3 day speedup

So it’s gonna cost you way less,

It’s a false economy

[scenic cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-slap-startrek-gif-8154922

[earnest hornet]

Ok yes I get it if your building something else already, I see that point, but that doesn’t last long with cost of those building

[neat owl]

That is my point, this is applicable only when you are stuck with long upgrades

[scenic cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-connick-jr-grace-adler-last-word-bye-grace-will-and-grace-gif-9990241

[earnest hornet]

In the end it is NEVER cheaper to do an instant build with Lat because it totally calculates the cost of speedups AND any resources.

[neat owl]

When speeding up current building is going to cost more than the daily rewards, and if the option to do an instant build is less than what it will cost in lat for the rewards, then this option is efficient

[earnest hornet]

Spend the resources, then speed up with lat is always the cheapest Lat cost

[scenic kernel]

if you have a free queue

[neat owl]

It is better than missing out on a daily reward

[earnest hornet]

No he doesn’t

[neat owl]

Yeah if you have a second builder you can do it, but I don't, so I do that instant option whenever I'm stuck with a long upgrade and have a low level building ready

[earnest hornet]

Yup, see this is why the second build and research queues are worth it

[neat owl]

Yeah but can't grind them out yet

And I wonder if they ever will let us grind it out

[earnest hornet]

The packs aren’t that expensive for them

For what you get for it

The ability to multiple build and research

[neat owl]

The way these were introduced, with a token... instead of something like a prime research or something... feels a bit like they were never intended to be ground out regardless of how long it lasts in game

[neat owl]

Dude, I'm an intern and with the taxes on the packs, a 100 dollar pack is worth 1 month of my stipened 😂

I'd rather grind things out

[earnest hornet]

Don’t need to get the 100$ pack for those 2nd build/research

[neat owl]

the second builder is like 500 rupees in my country... I can't justify spending that much on a game like this

In case of other games, like Ark survival, I don't mind spending money there because though they may change something, I still have my single player world and can know for sure that I will have the acendant creatures even after a long long time

Moreover, spending on that game is not an endless process like this game, where you can buy something today but tomorrw it may have very little value ( or something else may come along which is better than what you bought and though they didn't devalue what you bought, it still has become useless)

I don't buy those primal pass or stuff but have the god console and the acendant creatures

[earnest hornet]

But the build and research queues aren’t useless, as your point above makes

[neat owl]

But in this game there aren't such stuff that will be the same regardless of how the game changes

[neat owl]

I didn't say it is useless, but the value of something you purchase in this game is not going to remain the same, unlike some of the other games I spend on

[earnest hornet]

Sure if you wait long enough they MIGHT make it possible to unlock f2p,

[earnest hornet]

Like I said in what way is a 2nd build or research queue devalued.

You still have the queue, no matter what happens in the game:

It’s no different to other games it’s still buying a digital thing, those things can always disappear if they decide the game is no longer viable and take it offline, even Ark

It’s happened to lots of games.

[neat owl]

If you had bought a second researcher, you were doubling your research speed, meaning if you don't get one, you're at 50% the pace of what the rest of the server/ paying members of the server can do... but once the 3rd queue was added, now you're at 33%, and the second researcher's value is only 33% more and not the 50% it initially offered. Now you can obviously argue that you don't need to measure against the rest of the players, but this game doesn't really let you do that... since you gotta keep up with the rest of the server if you want to be in the good/active alliances or participate in events and armadas and other activities...

[earnest hornet]

Um no it doesn’t work that way for the research queues

[neat owl]

That's the thing, the things I got are not the ones that disappear when the game goes offline, since you have them in the offline version

[neat owl]

Not if it is just about your own progress, but when it comes to where you stand as compared to rest of the server, then yes it does

[earnest hornet]

The efficiency is way better cos I can do more researches.

Leave long ones while doing shorter ones.

It doesn’t drop to 33%

[neat owl]

Think of it in this manner, imagine your server just has you and another player, just the two of you... now if there are just 2 queues in game, and you only have the first queue ( which is there by default), you are at 50% pace of what the other guy can do if he has the second queue... but when the 3rd queue is released, now you're at 33% of what the other guy can do... and if you get the 2nd queue now, you are only going to be at 66% of what the other guy can do if we assume he got the third one when it was released

Now, similarly, the entire server has an average pace of things

Like the speed at which they progress in buildings, research, ships, officers, etc.

[frozen abyss]

Really?

[neat owl]

And you need to keep up with that pace in this game for a good experience, or it becomes hard to be in an active alliance, or take part in TOs, or in armadas and so on

Even events

And that is the perspective I am talking about

And from that perspective, the value of everything in this game only diminishes instead of being consistent

[abstract gate]

it's a joke????

[frozen abyss]

yeah, I'm pretty sure Scopely needs to fix this one. Either give us a free ticket for it or take the event down to fix it.

[abstract gate]

For the recruit Rom armada event, anyone know if independent rare/epic directive spend will score points?

[knotty niche]

Where is the disco event?

[neat owl]

They extended the amalgam and stuff timer?

[north vessel]

No anamoulus event on s65? Daylight savings mess up?

[neat owl]

It shows 1 more day left

[earnest hornet]

Just wait and don’t spend the ticket on that event yet, it’s being passed up to see if that is correct or supposed to be there

[neat owl]

If it isn't supposed to be there, then you gotta do it asap😂

not wait😂

[vital gyro]

do eclipse armadas count for this rom event?

armada assault

[wintry cypress]

Test it and share the result 🙂

[final prism]

Can't remember to have read the event would only run for 23 hrs? Dailies are up for another hour, but BP and CC already ended -- and new events started an hour early?

[wintry cypress]

they ended one hour early because of US daylight savings time

[final prism]

on EU servers?

[wintry cypress]

Affects every server

Also APAC afaik

[final prism]

I found it strange that the UTC times got adjusted b/c DST, there is no DST in UTC

[wintry cypress]

Especially UTC has those. They just start later

[true umbra]

Did they nix the anomalous event ?

[wintry cypress]

Prolly starts an hour later

[true umbra]

That's what I'm hoping... but we're talking Scopely there 😉

[wintry cypress]

Yeah, I know

[wintry cypress]

Maybe your country doesnt. Mine does, UK does (and UK is base time for UTC afaik)

[earnest hornet]

No utc isn’t UK time, utc never changes, it’s always UTC,

[final prism]

UTC == Universal Coordinated Time

[earnest hornet]

Then it’s your time zone or +1 for summer time

[wintry cypress]

Im utc+1 and times get changed for me. Half the year UTC+2
UK has half a year UTC and half a year UTC+1 afaik.
Thats what I was trying to point out 😅

[halcyon sentinel]

based on gmt, french got funny about it, so utc was born 😄

[south arrow]

I love how they continue to screw us over

[earnest hornet]

Yes that’s right, but saying utc time is UK time wasnt right, makes it sound like when I’m time changes utc changes too, which they don’t. they are 2 seperate times, just they match for part of the year,

[wintry cypress]

Probably should have said that differently 😅
Meant the right thing, said the wrong thing

[kindred salmon]

Eclipse armada not counting towards recruit Rom?

[vital gyro]

doesnt count, just checked

[potent tartan]

No only normal armadas

[dapper moss]

no events for who haven't a Feesha and now more ticket events.... Scopely is totally stupid

[hardy parcel]

how so? there are plenty of tickets. hell there is even a free chest lol

[earnest hornet]

Ok…. Confirmed. todays recruit rom meta event for hostiles had a ticket for entry. This was in error and is being corrected. Please expect this to be changed in the next few min. A reboot may be necessary.

Also a ticket gift chest bundle will appear momentarily for todays ticketed events.

The Sunday discovery event will launch shortly. The schedule was off cause of the time change.

[earnest hornet]

For your normal ticketed event yes

Not the rom event

[hardy parcel]

the rom event was an error.

that's already been stated

[cedar laurel]

I used my ticket already

I think it is time to stop playing this game!!!

[wintry cypress]

I think, scopely reacted to that

[earnest hornet]

Second tickets are in the gift chest for the mistake

Now you have todays free ticket event ticket,and an extra for the rom event mistake

[cedar laurel]

Thank You!

[placid mortar]

Should we spend these tickets on the rom event or will that be made free?

[wintry cypress]

they are free already, arent they?

[cedar laurel]

But these events are too reputative and the game is getting boring. We had a level 47 player that deleted his account on our server recently.

[earnest hornet]

The Rom event won’t cost tickets, reboot game to see it if it’s still showing

[faint fractal]

Getting points in disco event?

[cold crest]

Not working

[wintry cypress]

Works fine for me

[faint fractal]

Dis removed from the list?

[wintry cypress]

Dis never was on the list for me

[faint fractal]

I used to do in dis for months, doesn’t work tonight

[wintry cypress]

Seems scopely messed up more than just the DST Timing

[abstract gate]

DST actually was today in the states right?

[wintry cypress]

yes

[cold crest]

It the sever slow once again

[limber saffron]

ex armada and directive does not count for event. why?

[chilly venture]

Because Scopely doesn't want you to do it easily ?

[finite talon]

Why isn't the amarda event counting r47s?

[chilly venture]

Any reason why they don't adapt DS armadas respawn by now ? They give us so many armadas events, but we still have to wait for hours for DS rares / Epics to respawn

[twin karma]

Like to say Scopely that your brackets for the cross server event favored the whales that dumped real cash in to the ships and all but ignored the free to play players as normal.

[serene raptor]

Wow. Anyone without rare and epic directives is stuffed or has to join 50 odd armadas 😂

[south arrow]

That’s if you can even find an armada to start

[astral bobcat]

Found out that as well, thats pretty damn low even for them, as it also locks out the lottery tokens in the other mission, not pleased.

[barren bramble]

Laughable that their surveys ask " would you recommend this game?". I would give a firm down thumb to any Scopely product!!

[astral bobcat]

Just returned last month as well, had kinda forgotten the length they are willing to go to squeeze another cent out of you, already payed for the dang event!!

[torpid light]

Need much more armadas, and please switch off system fog in dark space during armada events, having to fly 5 minutes each time to find none is even worse than searching in normal space.

[dapper drum]

scopely doesn't want you to find good armadas

they want you to buy a pack and start lvl 23's

don't even kill them just start them that is there goal

your money for nothing

[torpid light]

Oh well guess it’s disappointment all round. Have the directives so not buying a pack, but also not wasting them on 23s. So will struggle to finish event, and annoyed they made it such a critical part of the main SMS. Several hours game play searching wasted.

[ember walrus]

As a non raider rom is a skip for me lots of saved resources

[dense wedge]

Luis needs his eyebrows trimed

[agile shard]

Is there going to be a token spending event to anyone’s knowledge? Or are we safe to spend?

[pale kestrel]

why the disparity in the ticket events for rewards, scopely? they all give 3grade and 4grade mats but in the dilithium one, you get premium recruit tokens, the crystal one gives interceptor parts and the parsteel one gives klingon credits. I mean wth?

[ornate geyser]

Not buying packs for armada directives, so putting the Rom events on the ignore pile...

[swift lotus]

This armada event is garbage. They seem to like it so it’s repeated in every battle pass but mudds counted last time. Now it’s find the epic… hours wasted

[plush rivet]

do the swarm armadas count?

[pale kestrel]

hadn't tried since teh exchange ones don't and lately scopely hasn't been specific on which armadas count in the descriptions

they more interested in trying to sell armada packs than actually letting us complete events. so little directives given out on armadas as well as the chest pulls are garbage

[plush rivet]

whats the ideal crew to use for them?

oh I know

[pale kestrel]

on swarm ones, i use 5of11 as captain, then kang and jaylah

[plush rivet]

dont have jaylah yet

and whats going to piss people off is the jelly rush event starts tomorrow

[pale kestrel]

she adds an additional shot each round on swarms, so you can sub her

[plush rivet]

almost wonder if I should bring my muddmada solo crew

mudd, gorkon, khan

[pale kestrel]

so either teh event wasn't calculated correctly or the points awarded were short for armada assault but i was 10 points need to reach the 60 mark and completed armada assult and shows i am 20 points shy of completing part 1 instead of complete.

[dusky mulch]

Can I get 12000 epic luck tokens.

[pale kestrel]

yep, you can get 17600 right here for $200

[abstract gate]

Lol

[dusky mulch]

$200. Please accept.

[desert laurel]

If you think they aren't adding correctly, you should take some SSs now while you can. It'll help when you send your ticket to CS. Take a SS of the events in rom folder, and the results of yesterday's mining event.

[scenic kernel]

I got 5 pts too many, should I complain or worry 🤣 (scopely maths...)

[desert laurel]

For some meta events, the contributors have partial credit if you don't manage to complete the entire thing. It's a hidden thing, and entirely player-beneficial

[craggy cave]

Completed all the events so far and got to 90 with one more to go so if you have completed it all then probably put a ticket in

[abstract gate]

Basically scopely says spend 99 for armadas and get 800 lucky thingies or do 99 and get 8800 lucky thingies

Logic 🤣?

[scenic kernel]

because the armadas only give lucky things 🧐

[abstract gate]

Savings on the rares as f2p is very complex and impossible to do every event .. it’s a pass for most of us f2p..

[abstract gate]

and rare chances to win anything better

I drew a 30k box 6 pull last night and I got 5 ent bps and 110 unc 3* xtal 100 epic dirs .. ignoring ent the other two are good pulls in my opinion

Rare box that I

Opening 6 box That’s like in 2 months ? I dunno 🤷‍♂️

It Takes time to gather rares really .. hoping with new features to bring rares will help

[vital drum]

We were doing rare sets during events and I'd get enough for a full 30k pull. It was working out nicely until everyone started going for the deep space ones and I can't reach there yet, so have barely done a rare armada set for months. With epics, I got into a few big ones and have heaps of credits, slowly working on jelly bps. It's not regular, and that's a problem. When it comes to Outlaw, we just smash them when we are bored and help out if needs be. That's a much better system for Armadas.

[earnest hornet]

it means you have only partially done one of the events, by doing all events today you will have 90 points with one more event tomorrow to finish it.

[abstract gate]

Lucky kitty 🐱😊

I blew up my epic loot for jelly bps .. 40 bps now and all out of epic loot

[brave crescent]

i think today comes another rom miningevent

[earnest hornet]

we haven't done Swarm Battle Yet, thats the one tomorrow, and the final day of the Armada event,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/656542930693128257/951590116084813844/stfc-arc-2022-03-01.jpg

[plush rivet]

Funny, before I finished Armada assault I needed 40 pts to finish the event. Now that I have I still need 10 pts to finish the recruit Rom event... but armada assault was supposed to be worth 60 pts not 30...

[desert laurel]

MSs in Armada Assault had partial credit, that all add up to 60.

[plush rivet]

🤨 that would be confusing as hell.....

[desert laurel]

Not really, MS1 is 5, MS2 is 10, then 15, and last is 30. You probably did 3/4 and looked at the score, then 4/4 and looked at it again.

[plush rivet]

yea I had 500 pts left to finish it and just got the pts

[main spindle]

Anyone know when the treasury building is going to be coming out?

[desert laurel]

this week

[abstract gate]

It says faction and pirate only

[plush rivet]

you sure?

[abstract gate]

Yes. Lol. What ops are you

[bitter snow]

The 'criteria' popouts are more accurate, usually... but still not 100% tied to the requirements 😄

[plush rivet]

but we found out that spent tokens count, beating or losing to the armada does not

[plush rivet]

40

[abstract gate]

Yep. Only the directives count

Miss out on 1500 pts if ya run em that way. More $$

[plush rivet]

my alliance had not ran a swarm one, and i had 100 rare so we tried it.. won and I got 4 jaylah shards

so got 1k pts and 4 jaylah shards so I was pretty happy

[static wigeon]

Didn't benefit your team as much though

With the way these events are structured now getting the most people through is becoming more and more important

[abstract gate]

It was all about maxing armada squads and winning. Had to stretch every directive as far as possible

Annoying, but doable for most

[wintry cypress]

2 miners in lucrative systems, 0 points. Awesome scopely

[gritty tulip]

And again nothing is counting for lat Monday no G3 no G4 no lat

[wind plaza]

come on, how about you add in some D'Vor parts in Latium Rush for people who already have the D'Vor but not the Feesha?

[nocturne kelp]

🤬 counting for mining monday and battlepass points event is again not working. even waited 3 mins after event reset, restart does not help. its annoying

[tardy ether]

1M in g3 (15M points) not counting

[karmic vault]

I thought they fixed the timing of the events on reset, but now I've got doubled daily rep events (one expiring in an hour)

If I had ships in lucrative space, I think I'd keep them on a node for an hour, just to be sure things have time to settle down...

[wintry cypress]

prolly to fix timing so they are adjusted to DST

[karmic vault]

Yah, that's what I was thinking.

[novel gull]

Well we will probably get a free chest out of this again

[quartz wren]

Mining G4 scored me points, but Isogen did not

[green trail]

When they say "G3 exocomp" they mean the level of the boost, not the level of the material, correct?

[green geyser]

Anyone else not get points for mining? I got zero points for G3 Ore on any of the mining events.

[full lotus]

same

got points on lat, but not g3

[green trail]

Yeah I'm not pulling my miners off nodes yet

[nocturne kelp]

looks like it starts working now, but no guarantee

[wintry cypress]

Got points now too after taking my miner with 6k G3 home. 30m points lost again

[quartz wren]

points are starting to score now, but not awarding previous points

[glacial token]

LAT RUSH SCORE LOST AGAIN ….how is this possible???

[last sun]

The research event didn’t score either, lost 2k points on my research I completed

Yea scopy! 🙄

[wise mountain]

I had this problem. It has only counted what was mined after start of event on the master surveyor.

[abstract gate]

It’s gonna be a while we be doing swarms

[deep steeple]

Should there be another recruit rom mining event today? I'm currently on 80 points and the swarm event says it scores 10 or does it score 20?

[karmic vault]

Well, if it only counted resources mined after the start of the event, it would stop all the people camping in Lucrative space overnight and dumping a million resources in at the start of the event.

[desert laurel]

there are enough pts from finishing today's events to complete the meta, you probably missed one if you only have 80 now

[torpid light]

Feel free to spawn some armadas, no 43 DS epics. Been looking for some time now, and the DS fog is even more irritating.

[hard oxide]

first mining event ended 1 hour earlier than normal (EU timezones) due to DLST change in the states so I personally missed out on the first mining event as I pulled miners back after it ended

[fallen tendon]

Thx to Scopely, switching event timer without annoucement I've wracked up more than once Event during the last few days. THX A LOT SCOPELY 😡😡😡😡

[worldly stratus]

Found yet another event I can complete. I’ll get 90 points for completing these events with a 100 points milestone.

[deep steeple]

im in the same position so i assume a scoring issue. need to log a ticket

[earnest hornet]

Ummm no

100 points total cos mining mastery even ran twice

But most of those events finished and event reset, so…. sol

[full egret]

So you can mine everything but concentrated lat for the battle pass, that makes sense 🙈

[earnest hornet]

Because con lat is new and that battlepass event has been around for a while. It took a month or 2 for Isogen to be added to that

[full egret]

I guess, but they really need to sort themselves out

[worldly stratus]

I don’t see how this mining event ran twice in 24 hours. Not sure if they did 2 12 hour mining.

[earnest hornet]

12 and 13 are 2 different days aren’t they???

[desert laurel]

today's the 3rd day, mining ran day1 & day2

[earnest hornet]

They did 2x 24hr.
Look at swarm battle it’s a single date, cos it only runs 1 x day

[worldly stratus]

Well I’ll have to trust you on that. I would have done it but must’ve missed it

[earnest hornet]

Well it happens the next 2 weeekends, so now you know for next time

[abstract gate]

C’mon scopely, when can I get another warp interlock for a second Feesha. A month and a half in and still nothing…

[worldly stratus]

Thanks

[cloud saddle]

NOT GETTING EVENT CREDIT FOR DAILIES

[wintry cypress]

What event /daily are you trying to do?

[wind trout]

Scopely.. another brilliant move...

where's the points from the Concentrated Latinum mining for the BP event?

[wintry cypress]

Its not included in the event. Has been mentioned several times already

[wind trout]

getting tired of this shafty moves...

[earnest hornet]

It’s not shafty moves it hasn’t ever been in the battlepass event, con lat is new, even Isogen was a month or 2 before it was added

[wind trout]

right, scopely do what scopely do. I'm still waiting on my spent latinum on the Rom event... and for sure I'm not the only one... no worries, on the end of the BP we get a fine frame to do nothing with it

[abstract gate]

Hi. ISS Jellyfish pursuit is not running on all servers. Server 119 doesnt see it. Is that a general issues?

[golden knot]

Does anyone have a screenshot of the cross server XSLB event page that ended the other day?

[earnest hornet]

find it on http://stfc.space/events

[golden knot]

Thank you🖖 I was also hoping someone had the actual page saved too😁

[blissful dragon]

Same issue done all the events but 90 points only

[plucky olive]

ISS Jelly Persuit is also not running on #923195747246161971

[keen ledge]

That was escalated earlier. Team is looking into it.

[plucky olive]

Thank you. Hope some kinda of compensation for the guys that are trying for it. I already have it so not worried about me.. just a few in my alliance and a few friends that Have held out on spending resources for this event.

[wise mountain]

It was just on the master surveyor event. The latnum rush counted everything.

[keen ledge]

Update: The servers that didn't get it today will have it tomorrow starting at 9amPT - it will run for the full duration, just delayed by a day.

[plucky olive]

Awesome ill let our guys know..

[vital drum]

Hindu Quark strikes again

[neon vale]

Is Scopely ever going to give us a mechanism to earn the directives necessary to complete the constant armada events? And note I said EARN not BUY.

@keen ledge From what I’ve seen, you’re the first mod/dev/? who’s ever actually interacted and I thank you for that. I know it’s thankless work.

[keen ledge]

At times, you'll see Old Man and Leela interacting - they're both Scopely employees.

[neon vale]

Maybe just timing, but I’ve seen you 10x more than anyone else there put together.

[sand tendon]

Has anyone been having problems with trying to upgrade a ship and it tells you that you don’t have enough resources even though you do?

[cunning radish]

Happens all the time

It’ll fix itself. Sometimes going to upgrade something else than coming back to that will help

[sand tendon]

I need to spend the mats for the rom event. How long before it fixes itself?

[cunning radish]

Spend mats on something else

Then go back to the thing you want. Should fix it

[sand tendon]

I won’t have enough mats for both. 😡😡😡

[cunning radish]

Ah

[desert laurel]

post a ss of the upgrade you're trying to do

There's a bug affecting the client's ability to correctly display costs. You'll need more mats and/or rss to complete the upgrade.

[sand tendon]

Mother puss bucket. I spent some on a miner and I still get the same error

[desert laurel]

you need more trit for that

[sand tendon]

How candle. I have 85m and only 75m is needed

78m

[desert laurel]

The bug is understating costs

[sand tendon]

Oh this stinks

[desert laurel]

I'd open 20m in trit, and try again

[vital drum]

Yep it's the trit. It can do it with anything but the other resources are prolific so it has to be the trit

[desert laurel]

that's what tokens are for, these times when we need a boost!

[sand tendon]

But I shouldn’t need a boost. I spent 45m in tri tokens and subtracting what it showed the cost to be I’m missing 17.6m tri.

[desert laurel]

it's just a visual bug, if it were fixed, the cost would still be more than what you have. So yes, you do need a boost to do this upgrade

[sand tendon]

Leave it to brokely scopely.