🏆-event-chat

[fresh cliff]

I did the same thing

[spring comet]

thanks man while youre it at add dvor parts in (worth a try ) 😄

[stark marsh]

Why have they removed dabo table rewards already..... Too good to be true, standard scopely

[drifting bridge]

Hope they’re not being improved as already spent 6 🙈

Actually….hope they are being improved. But if so, d’oh

[weary vapor]

If they are improved will we see compensation of sorts for those who already exchanged

[stark marsh]

🤣🤣🤣 good luck with that, they gotta claw back the generosity from previous arcs

[fresh peak]

Will be improved a little but we will comp anyone who did purchase them before (like you)

[rustic marlin]

Hey Scopely, how do you spell "Elimination"?

[fresh peak]

Can u share SS so we can fix? or is it IGN?

[upper atlas]

i see it spelled correct on my server, odd!

[spring comet]

thats the ferengi spelling

[gilded osprey]

Where is the event store gone ? …

The mats section or were again to many ! /having nye deja-vu

[spring comet]

read up

[civic furnace]

Where the hell are the mats on event store!!!!! Im sure theyre nerfing it. The two i got had really good rewards

[rustic marlin]

I assume you are joking.

[spring comet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-facepalm-wesly-crusher-worf-riker-gif-20876270

[unkempt lava]

The dvor research does not apply to the new dvor. Do you think they will change it or add new research nodes. I was hoping it would be for both like franklin A

[unborn hare]

The new lat nodes in wolf are broken

[unkempt lava]

What u mean

[main spindle]

So how much is this new dock going to coast its not in the store yet so was wondering?

[cedar laurel]

$19.99?

[unborn hare]

1 ship on a node shows it mining on 8 others

[main spindle]

Y is it not in my store yet

The g dock pack

[tardy ether]

What systems have the new concentrated lat?

[unkempt lava]

Should be available in few mins

[upper atlas]

did anyone recall the definitive answer of what happens when you level up to an even numbered level in the middle of a BP? do rewards start scaling as long as you didn't hit the BP MS?

[remote ferry]

Where is the Drydock G key in the store?

[remote ferry]

Thank you

[main spindle]

And yet there is another ship i cant get for a few months after the arc for it drops cuz of course i dont have a T9 d'vor to scrap for the new ship cuz scopely don't give enough d'vor parts in the refinery and doing the leader board during lat Mondays is impossible

So im 120k d'vor parts short on tiering my ship

[fallen karma]

... No parabellum or Jelly brawl on the event list? 😦

[viral yarrow]

No parabellum this month ???

[tender crane]

they said para will run once and jelly twice

[frosty notch]

just message in news center is corrupted and has 1/3 info )

[viral yarrow]

So they short changing us we usually get 3 parabellum

[indigo granite]

Dock G ???? Not available?

[pine cipher]

Parabellum?

[sand anvil]

Is that for dock G?

[wintry cypress]

Yes

[sand anvil]

Thanks

[echo arrow]

Is the 4 day SLB event a level based event or triggered another way?

[bronze bloom]

Still no dock g available!!!!!

[steep mist]

There it is again. lol

[wintry cypress]

in #👾-bug-reporting as well 🤣

Does that count as spamming? 😁

[sand anvil]

Was going to ask if you’re bored with posting that yet lol

[wintry cypress]

I truly am

[cedar laurel]

This Event should have D'Vor parts.

[supple pond]

The schedule of this month's events, I can see them in the game but are they posted out of the game anywhere?

[echo arrow]

Anyone know, what triggers the SLB event?

[cyan finch]

Making new d'vor n mining new lat with it

[steep mist]

heh

[shut moon]

ok ty

[remote ferry]

You should script that out to post every 2 min

[wintry cypress]

yup. Working on it right now

Thanks for the idea

[remote ferry]

Anything worth doing is worth automating

[wintry cypress]

Believe me, posting this all the time isnt worth it. It gives me a mental breakdown

[crimson pewter]

Does anyone know if the D'vor scrap is actually based on tier like the arc descriptions seem to say, or based on level like every other ship? Or like stfc.space indicates, based on level range (41-45 get you the same rewards)?

[wintry cypress]

Its based on level, like every other ship

[earnest kettle]

Is the para bellum and iss jelly event not running this month?

[long slate]

Guys, where is the dock pack?

[long slate]

Sorry, had to do it.

[tender plaza]

Will this event currency be used throughout the arc. ie, can I save it and spend it all on end of arc stuff?

[plain trout]

Why are we asking the same questions? Everyone read back before you ask a question 😂

[glass gust]

was to get 4*

but got

[meager zinc]

Same

[mighty hazel]

New updated event store is a joke

[wind fog]

No dvor parts? 🤦‍♂️

[pale kestrel]

next to common officers that have been neglected for far too long, this will be the next most unused officer

[wintry cypress]

When you upgrade him, his effect will decrease. At T5 10% only which is ok

And combined with the other 2 ferengi officers, he can do great

[wind fog]

So he does give a lot of synergy to Quark?

[wintry cypress]

15%, and 3000% for the other one

[wind fog]

15% added to 90% doesn’t seem like much

[wintry cypress]

Adds up to 120% at max synergy

[coral cave]

Hi, at what ops level does the new lat refinery become available because I can currently raid opc but I can't refine it.

[supple pond]

Do anyone have the link to the FAQ where the Feb events would be posted?

[weak copper]

It’s on your in game news

[supple pond]

Yes, looking for it outside as opposed to screen caps

[zealous leaf]

35

[arctic marten]

No jellyfish pursuit in February?

[brave crescent]

yea looks so

[civic scaffold]

If I scrap my t9 dvor does my lat refiners drop to my next dvor?

[wintry cypress]

No, it should stay T9

[wraith narwhal]

Does anyone have the bonus spacedock g in the store?

[wraith narwhal]

Thx 👍😅

[peak cradle]

And if you scrap 2 t8 dvors and build the new one , can you get t9 refines to?

[wintry cypress]

No

Then you got t8 refinery

[vague breach]

Are they rolling more rewards out? I didn't have mats at first. Will I have more options or did something just get messed up?

I remember a lot of spaces on the Dabo wheel 🤣

Maybe they have plans for latinum, like letting you plate your whole ship

Inside and out

[wintry cypress]

You need at least one t9 dvor for the t9 refinery. This never changed

[cedar laurel]

And I thought we can get the Amalgam on this bp!

[late thicket]

has there been an answer whether the new dvor takes full benefit from research for the old dvor?

[potent lichen]

This is a mini arc, Old Man hinted there may be a few mini before we get to Ds9

[peak cradle]

Yeah , no way to aquire it now , not even store

[wintry cypress]

No it wont i suppose

Its descriptions specifically stats latinum and dvor. Not dvor feesha and concentrated latinum

[late thicket]

aye, but the Franklin node texts werent adjusted either at first

they only did that when people got confused

[potent lichen]

This new ship is working the way the ORIGINAL was supposed to btw

The increased insane lat speed was an accident they left alone

[late thicket]

I know, but still an extra added 8000% wouldnt hurt

or the extra protected cargo for that matter

[ripe granite]

And then they slam an objectively P2W feature in, Its not even a pay to get ahead, Just straight up Pay to win the new drydock unless they guarantee a way to source it without paying.

Im fine with pay to get ahead, But the moment stuff is pay to get an advantage that cant be earned in any other way I somewhat dislike it.. despite beeing a spender

[peak cradle]

Even 2000% would be acceptable 😂

[peak cradle]

Same as extra research queue

[deft canopy]

How are you going to make a event centered around lat mining and give players 35+ a new ship and players 30+ a new dock for the ship but but anyone over 23 can’t even get the d’vor to help them in the events that are going to be focused on lat spending how is this helpful at all to your player base! Why why wasn’t this thought of before hand?

[ripe granite]

Not quite, Research queue gets you ahead, But in the end a single Research queue will eventually get all the Research aswell.

However this new drydock is on top of anything you unlock via leveling

[wintry cypress]

No, you have to buy it

[viscid sinew]

Hahahaha

[wintry cypress]

Somebody messed up xml/html?

srsly?

[viscid sinew]

Yes, again... Not the first time

[ashen wharf]

we dont get a new ship you gotta buy it lol its also like terrible mining the new stuff if you dont have the ship

[late thicket]

yup, they did so last arc as well

[ashen wharf]

32 days per node if i use a regular dvor

[deft canopy]

I’m 25 I’m not getting a new ship

[ashen wharf]

[ripe granite]

Wasn't a question.. was a statement that the new dock is a blatant P2W and not a Pay to get ahead 🙈

[ashen wharf]

no ones getting a new ship as i said

Unless you are dumb enough to buy it

[wintry cypress]

Oh ,was confused about that part

However this new drydock is on top of anything you unlock via leveling

[wintry cypress]

Scrap a max dvor.
Some whales on my server do that instead of buying

[ashen wharf]

you would need multiple maxed dvors

For 1

[wintry cypress]

No, one is enough

One max dvor gives you 120 data cores. 1 Data core = 1 blueprint

Dvor feesha needs 120 blueprints

[ashen wharf]

ah so like the frank

[wintry cypress]

exactly

[ashen wharf]

Hows upgrading though

[wintry cypress]

You get the parts for dvor feesha just as you do parts for dvor

[elder comet]

9/50 So far one officer shard. Keep them 15 minutes coming 😬

[novel pelican]

This arc already blows. It opened up with hunt Worms…that’s all the info I needed.

[vestal light]

Parabellum and jellyfish brawl not mentioned in event guide 🙄

[potent lichen]

End of month per Old Man

[fresh peak]

Para Bellum should be on 2/16 and Jellyfish on 2/23 but subject to change

[frosty notch]

can we have updated schedule message? 😄 that one is really bad atm

color coding error also in english 🙂

[vestal light]

Once per the month?

[frosty notch]

event types missing here

[upbeat abyss]

I'm glad I've done some looking, new D'Vor sucks are reg lat and if it can't reach anything at T1 what's the point.

[pale kestrel]

because of $scopely's want of 💵

[urban walrus]

Hey @wintry cypress do you happen to know when drydock g will appear?

[urban walrus]

😆

[abstract gate]

In what way?

[wintry cypress]

You pin that, but you dont pin that the Dock G will come on Saturday? C'mon!

[ripe granite]

@wintry cypress hey do you happen to know when it arrives for F2P or is it a pay 2 win microtransaction 🤣🤣🤣

[wintry cypress]

Its a key. Just like 2nd and 3rd researcher. My guess: Permanently p2w

[desert laurel]

The Drydock G offer is scheduled to be released to the cash shop on Saturday Feb 12.

[wintry cypress]

THANK YOU!
My Mental health can recover

[ripe granite]

🤣

[icy birch]

Its pay to luse money game 🖖💩

New event fore same 3 month 😭

[ripe granite]

And it is on top of any grindable drydocks right? Just to clarify

[abstract gate]

I'm glad i Live in a world of entitlement, not

[wintry cypress]

Didnt say a thing 🙈

[desert laurel]

Yes, that's considered a swear word here and slightly modifying it isn't enough.

[civic hornet]

nice to see active censoring

[ember walrus]

Ship is mediocre to me but others may like it

[civic hornet]

if it is classed as a swear word, can i ask by who's definition exacrly?

[desert laurel]

Clarify what? all the regular docks are still the same, it's just the G that is currently p2p. I have not seen any plans regarding f2p availability.

[ripe granite]

All I wanted to know

[abstract gate]

Try it in the workplace

[desert laurel]

I follow past precedent

[ember walrus]

The server's their server their rules

[brave crescent]

@fresh peak What is with the Jelly Pursuit to get the jelly?

[civic hornet]

i can't even be bothered to argue.

this battlepass arc is pushing me so close to quiting the game cos it is so redundant, boring and uninspired. why bother. but scopely don't care cos i'm not a whale.

[civic hornet]

so if they say we can just make up rules 'willy nilly' thats fine, but some consistency and an exact listing of unacceptable words would be good.

[ember walrus]

Well to list the words would break the rules. Kinda a catch 22 there

[abstract gate]

🚫 No swearing (even modified forms & gestures)

[civic hornet]

what constitutes that and who defines what is and isnt?

[abstract gate]

If you don't understand that what you said is swearing, your parents wasted money on your education

[civic hornet]

anyway leaving the server cos whats the point, scopely is more interesting in censoring 'swear words' than making the game good.

[desert laurel]

Choose words you'd use in polite company and you'll be fine.

[civic hornet]

again by whos definition

[desert laurel]

I'm not scopely, I'm a moderator.

Your definition if you want, as if you were talking to the Queen of England. If it gets deleted, then so be it. No big deal.

[elder comet]

Nova's point is valid. There have been words censored ingame and no one had a single clue why. Took them about 2 years to "whitelist" some.
The german word "um" is very common and was blacklisted for no reason. Not even support could explain why but just that it was censored...

There was or still is a system that when you link it in chat it gets censored. Same with alliances. They can use certain words but it's censored in chat

[ripe granite]

Swedish words Putta and Fika are banned (push and snack) however I know why 🙈🙈 they are swear words in Portuguese/Spanish and Italian 🤣🤣

[abstract gate]

So is Pipe in French

Pipe is censored

[fathom tide]

hardly seems like the correct channel for this discussion

[ripe granite]

Heck even the name Rene is banned unless you ad an apostrophe above the e

[sick wedge]

Bite is censored.
Chorizo is censored.
Hits is censored.
Change one letter to ì or ò or ť and the word is permitted. Pointless algorithm.

[glacial kernel]

Pipe

Is censored

[abstract gate]

Pipe has many meanings, slightly different one in French 🤣

[glacial kernel]

Will say the censor can make some chats pretty interesting

[main spindle]

Its sad it's probably going to be 6 months or more before I even get to see this new ship. scopely is making it more and more difficult for F2P people to stay interested in there game

[potent lichen]

I've looked over the events, has anyone seen a Build Feesha or Scrap it event besides what is currently up?

[neon crescent]

God I am really hating this game so much after this arc. Just endless BS.

I’m guessing there’s no refund policy on purchases? Bought one last month and now it’s a waste

[brittle snow]

1 parabellum/month is so mehh...why are you guys reducing the number of the most beloved events??

[elder comet]

The word lul is allowed. If they knew what it means in dutch they would blacklist it and lol probably as well since they are "similar" 🤣🤣

[ember walrus]

Why bother with the new $$ ship that makes lat if you can get 10x the ammount in 1/10 the time from an event

[brittle snow]

ohh yeah...well i loved the event bcs of the gas, i made a plan that with 3 paras/month i can max ent in 2 but i guess not then..

[abstract gate]

With Arrock as officer mining rate is 6500%

[elder comet]

Full synergy is 12500

[abstract gate]

indeed

[ember walrus]

Ok thats a bit nuts

[ember walrus]

So 125x

[elder comet]

So you just need the new officers and can use basically any ship like horizon. Disco it to ds and if it works as intended get 400k/hr

[abstract gate]

At T1 thats 5M/p/h

[ember walrus]

125k with my horizon assuming no other bonuses

If math holds up

[abstract gate]

i'm getting 42k base at T1 at the moment

[ember walrus]

Thats honestly not bad

Not worth $100 imoh but thats me

[abstract gate]

or scrap a max Dvor

[ember walrus]

Only got a t8 max have 2 more t7s i am leveling so its possible

Just not fast

People want dvor parts in the event store i say forget that give us ship xp

[elder comet]

indeed would be nice to get some parts maybe along each pack we pick up in event store or so. But realistically that is very unlikely to happen.

[ember walrus]

Too late for this idea but they could have had parts scale off your dvors tier so it would be useful to all but not allow a new dvor owner to max in the arc

If you had 0 dvors could have offered a bp pack

[brittle snow]

if u guys wanna reduce the number of paras okey, make it 2 a month but reducing it to 1 is just outrageous imo

[hexed gorge]

Just switch it to 4 jelly brawls

[viscid sinew]

Jelly brawls are SLB and irrelevant

Jelly auction events

[abstract gate]

Since when?

[viscid sinew]

Good for you

[brittle snow]

we need para, gives so much gas and lat

[abstract gate]

Hardly irrelevant to those who want explorer parts

[viscid sinew]

Parabellum event is sweet... That's why they scale it down

Beatings will continue until morale improves

[hexed gorge]

Since when was jelly brawl an slb?

[abstract gate]

Exactly

[viscid sinew]

Jelly bp event?

[hexed gorge]

Nope 🤣🤣

[viscid sinew]

Ah, PvP event?

[hexed gorge]

Nope 🤣🤣

[abstract gate]

Not Pvp either

[viscid sinew]

So I have no clue... Maybe I'm too small to see them

[frosty notch]

stealing latinum while mining will be some kind of pvp event probably xD

[tender plaza]

@desert laurel you realize that the "Asti" is censored... It's not even a word I know of. But you know what it is? The name of a system in this game.

[hexed gorge]

So why make a statement that it was irrelevant?

[abstract gate]

So why say they are irrelevant if you have no idea what the event is

[viscid sinew]

And a district in Piemonte, Italia

Obviously because I thought it was the jelly bp event

[hearty oracle]

Does anyone know what system has concentrated latinum nodes?

[abstract gate]

Wolf

Sirius

Iapedes

[hexed gorge]

Hence if you knew what it was, switching para for it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world what with the new lat currency

[elder comet]

You have no clue. Jelly brawl is milestone event when you have jelly. Jelly pursuit is slb to get jelly parts

[desert laurel]

Arrock seems pretty good then

[viscid sinew]

Parabellum is good lat guaranteed... 50k Raw for 1k lat might be good, but until a large population have the lat mining officers, its 24 hours mining per chest

[abstract gate]

Not really, i mined 100k in 2 hours for 2 chests

[hexed gorge]

He didn't look at mining speed before making that statement either 😂😂

[viscid sinew]

With d'vor A i assume?

[abstract gate]

with Feesha

[viscid sinew]

I did... Have about 1200 per hours with fluffy

[frosty notch]

ofc with Feesha )

[viscid sinew]

I'm f2p, Feesha is months or years away

[frosty notch]

should be same as t1 Feesha on g3 miners with Arrock

[abstract gate]

scrap a maxed Dvor

[hexed gorge]

I'm f2p, feesha is here in the morning 😉

[viscid sinew]

Lol, have a t7 d'vor, will be months to max it

[frosty notch]

event store can help )

[viscid sinew]

And need a second d'vor as you still need a old lat miner

[hexed gorge]

Got one of them as well

[viscid sinew]

So, for me, parabellum is infinitively better than the new stuff

Up to now a T7 was doing Monday lat event just fine, giving a week's worth of lat chests... So no point tiering it up. Until now

[scenic kernel]

even for the better refinery output?

[abstract gate]

@desert laurel Do you know if there any or planned concentrated Latinum nodes in DS?

[desert laurel]

nope

[viscid sinew]

Yes, because the effort to max it was bigger than the increased refinery output for me

My time is the most valuable resource in this game, after all

[hexed gorge]

I used the last event store to max the dvor, so glad I did now

[viscid sinew]

I used it to get 2/11 and parts of 3/11. Even now, that was a better choice for me.

[elder comet]

There are already nodes in ds. Are you all not looking? Lol

[abstract gate]

Concentrated ?

[elder comet]

Yes

[viscid sinew]

Yes

[elder comet]

W65 e.g.

[abstract gate]

location ?

[elder comet]

Just use the rss button on galaxy map...

[viscid sinew]

There was a post earlier with all the systems...

[abstract gate]

indeed there is

Nice big ones in L49's

[lost wagon]

I didn’t got the slb option can anyone help level 30

[lost shell]

it's an slb centered around the new ship that requires you to be level 35. the event requires level 35

[ember walrus]

https://stfc.space/systems?f=$name=%26warp:-1%26mining:false%26housing:false%26missions:false%26minLevel:1%26maxLevel:60%26minWarp:1%26maxWarp:600%26resources@:2164745208;%26hostiles@;%26he:false%26me:false%26faction=-1%26page:1%26scout:false%26ns:0&s=$ascending:true%26sortBy:1

Link goes to all systems warp 10-600

[inland narwhal]

The only reason I can think to get the new ship is for the warp range, but it will take forever to max so even then it's probably not worth the effort

[ember walrus]

Ops locked too so theres that

[carmine hemlock]

When you scrap T9 dvor, do you loose your split refine options in the refine store?

[viscid sinew]

No, but you lose the fast old lat miner

or so I've been told

[ember walrus]

Or one of them

I have 4 none at t9 now i am kicking myself for spreading out

[viscid sinew]

Yes, ideally you should have two d'vors

[carmine hemlock]

I have a T8 as well, but want to be able to buy parts separate to keep upgrading it

[viscid sinew]

Both at T9🤣

[hybrid tangle]

Maybe I missed it somewhere and am way too lazy to scroll back here buuuuuut.......did they remove the Parabellum event to give us this?

[fierce cosmos]

Whole schedule seems a mess. Tickets in BP for ticketed events (none listed), like someone said, a lot of event types are missing... Additional events missing (are we doing cosmic cleanup? ISS pursuit? I saw Para and ISS brawl already mentioned)

[lunar chasm]

my d'vor won't scrap, it says its in use, but its docked at my base.....

[fierce cosmos]

Docked means it's in use

[lunar chasm]

aaah, cool!!

got it now, thanx 👍

[fresh peak]

Ok, let me relay that to the team and we will try to fit 2.

[halcyon sentinel]

🙏

[brittle snow]

please, thank you!😇

[narrow ravine]

If I'm ops 31, and I go to ops 32, will the 32+ event (which started today) open for me?
I hate when they release level-locked events with zero warning.

[desert laurel]

I've seen it happen before, so probably, but if you're referring to the "Complete Missions" event you might need to do more work than that.

[narrow ravine]

Yeah that's the one I'm talking about. I'm worried if I push Ops 32 it won't appear.

[desert laurel]

Level first, then clear localization and reboot. Check your battlepass for enough mission keys to finish the event. If you don't have enough keys there, then you still have the old, lower level bp and need to get your keys from CS.

[narrow ravine]

Ah, didn't realize the BP was going to hose me with event keys, too. 😦

[desert laurel]

You can check your current bp now as well, maybe they're giving keys out to 31- now.

[hexed gorge]

Outside of efficient construction in the territory research tree and ore building efficiency in outlaw tree. Are there any further building efficiencies I need to be considering to bring down ore costs for an ops 41 build?

[fast drift]

Yes please

[dim surge]

parabellum should occur most weeks in my opinion. For r&d lvl41 you need 68k common 4 star gas. This means you need 260k lat to build it (as obtaining that volume of uncommon from refinery alone is not realistic within any reasonable timeframe)

Even with parabellum being weekly it’d take 8 weeks just to build up enough lat to obtain the gas. Surely that’s enough time to wait to build up enough resources for any one single building

[fathom tide]

I agree 1000%

[dim surge]

Also along similar lines… lvl 40 Defense platform e costs. Needs 3.2k 4star rare gas.

How is this achievable for any player within any reasonable time frame.

Note:
A. 4 star Refinery doesn’t even give rares.
B. 156 4star rare gas from battle pass in this arc.

If relying on battle pass arcs each month it’d take 20 months to build it up enough

[inland narwhal]

Lol, my slb is really showing the response to this arc! Rewards go all the way to the top 100 too

[unkempt lava]

guys has any1 tiered up the new dvor? does refinery improve its output? (ops39 s57)

[plucky wind]

Anyone able to confirm why I cannot see the G Dock pack in my offers section?

[unkempt lava]

it will come on saturday

[fierce jewel]

I heard its waiting for an event

[plucky wind]

An event behind a paywall. No surprise there 🙈😂

[plucky wind]

In DJ’s video it shows the lat amount increasing per tier. Think at max it was 20/40k per 1/2 chests.

[gray ravine]

Does existing Lat research apply to new ship?

[north vessel]

No

Any (official) word/dates? for the following events:
Cosmic Clean-up; rumored Saturdays during BP
ISS Jelly Pursuit; zero rumors heard
ISS Jelly Brawl; rumored will occur twice during BP
Si Vis Pacem, Parabellum; rumored one will occur during BP

[brittle snow]

I asked the devs here on dc to make para/ and he said he will try asking the team for 2

[vital drum]

Jelly Pursuit?

It's so hard planning anything when it's kinda random when they occur

[weak copper]

Its a 3 or 4 day event and most players are likely still waiting for their D’vor to finish scrapping

[lapis harbor]

How do I get the dry dock G

[weak copper]

Available to buy next Saturday

In conjunction with the 1st Quark SLB

[untold pendant]

Look at the pin

[fathom shuttle]

Or you could just scrap a maxed mayflower...

[lapis harbor]

Yep kinda what I figured oh well

[simple seal]

No para bellum or jellyfish brawl on the the upcoming schedule?

[white oasis]

My server leader board isn't much bigger. This is by far the most boring arc ever.

I haven't been bored enough to watch Friends since it was still on the air.

[golden geode]

Best part of this battle pass is that there are only 28 days in February!

[grizzled rune]

Ha ha ha, Quark with "What's in your wallet".

[dim surge]

Assuming I ever had a mayflower!

[hoary lichen]

How come the new dvor is incapable of mining lat 1.0 at the same or better rates?

[earnest hornet]

Because it’s not designed to mine the old lat

The dvor is still your best for mining og lat, the freesha is for the new lat nodes

[hoary lichen]

Obviously, if it's the 2.0 and you scrapped your only dvor... you'd think it's at least capable of mining reg lat 🤔

[earnest hornet]

You can still get an original dvor, you get BPS from each 30 day loyalty chest,
Plus a tier 1 Freesha give as much Lat from the refine as you got from a maxed dvor,
So the choice is yours, stay with the dvor, or build up to get more lat from refines, and eventually when you get another dvor you can mine some with that, the speed research make the og dvor fast anyway no matter the tier.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/656542930693128257/940622657584496650/unknown.png

So it’s worth the upgrade if only to start accumulating more lat from refines.

And then eventually you can double down with both lat refines.

And a lot of people that have been working on the dvor have a bank load of Raw Lat anyway to last with refines for a long while without having to mine it.

[hoary lichen]

Kinda my point, Franklin 2.0 carried over and works on 1.0. Not to mention all the research carried over

[earnest hornet]

Not all the research, carried over, the combat researches, but not the upgrade costs and impulse speed.
But it’s a new and improved,
You have a choice do it or don’t,

[hoary lichen]

My bad, didn't realize my Franklin-A would die on a <=35 swarm

Thing can't mine reg lat despite being an upgrade

[earnest hornet]

Because it mines the new lat,

It has similarities with the way the franklin A came out yes, but people are expecting it to be exactly the same,
They designed it the way they did

[hoary lichen]

So two steps forward one step back?

[earnest hornet]

We just have to adapt if we want to adopt the new Freesha too. Or if not you can easily continue without any issue with the original dvor.
You couldn’t do that with the Franklin A if you wanted to get the benefit from it. Same here

[earnest hornet]

How is it a step back?? Right from the start of the Freesha your getting 1000 lat from the lat refine, and it gets better from there

Actually getting more then that, if you 2 chest you can get 2000 lat just from tier 1

So right from the start it’s better then the dvor where the double chest is 1000.

[ember walrus]

Frank a could do just was well on old swarm as new ones. Freesha cant mine old lat worth a dang

[hoary lichen]

I have to sacrifice my only ship to gather regular lat for a ship that can gather a small amount more(500) meanwhile giving up all my research for it. And on top having to foot the bill for upgrades and repairs.

[earnest hornet]

That was no different to the franklin A having to upgrade a new ship, what’s the difference??

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/656542930693128257/940622657584496650/unknown.png

The lat figures on the left is what the benefit is

And double it for the 2 chest refines

[hoary lichen]

All the research carried over

[earnest hornet]

Even without the Freesha you could slow mine the new Lat and get 1000 or 2000.

[ember walrus]

My view is skewed as i had 4 dvors

[reef jasper]

OG Dvor mines raw lat. Freesha mines concentrated lat. Mining different things, why would it carry over?

[earnest hornet]

You have the new officers that basically is the research, AND the Freesha ship ability is faster mining rate then the dvor is anyway, and the research about similar

[hoary lichen]

They litteraly called it the Franklin 2.0

It's obviously not

[earnest hornet]

Missing the point.

If you gonna complain about it, it’s fine don’t do it, that’s entirely up to you.

No one is forcing you to do it

[ember walrus]

Dvor mined at upwards of 1 mil per hour doubt the new ship will match that for a long time. Plus ops locked

[earnest hornet]

Just showing you where the benefits are

[earnest hornet]

Again also looking at a maxed ship compared to a early tier ship,

The early dvor mines slower too

But the Officer mining bonus is huge

[hoary lichen]

All I'm saying is, why is the new one incapable of mining reg latinum at the same rate?

It's stupid

[earnest hornet]

Because it’s not supposed to… because they are keeping the original dvor in the 30 day chests,

[ember walrus]

Not saying there are not benifits but major issues too for players with only dvor

[earnest hornet]

Otherwise they would remove it entirely from above certain ops level

Tier 7 dvor ship ability

Compared to my fresh build Freesha

[hoary lichen]

Now try to mine a reg latinum node with your feesha

[heavy kernel]

You can easily get more than one dvor

[ember walrus]

Totally depends on luck or raw time. If FTP

Old dvor 5-8 mins for daily 2x refine. Dont know for new one

[hoary lichen]

How can a superior ship ment for mining latinum... somehow forget how to mine an easier version of the material?

[earnest hornet]

No because i don’t need too, that’s like sending a envoy to mine data, instead of a Botany Bay, it wasn’t designed to mine reg lat

[heavy kernel]

Not really, I bought my first for 20 bucks, pulled a full one from a chest and built another 2 just from the monthly dailies completion.

[earnest hornet]

Again Because it wasn’t designed for it,

[reef jasper]

It's a different material, there's no reason to mine both types of lat with the same ship, defeats the point of getting a new ship. Their mining bonuses are terrible for a survey, horizon is better but ship ability (and research for old dvor) made it faster

[heavy kernel]

In the same respect as a Frank A isn't as efficient at killing swarm 35s as an original Frank

[hoary lichen]

It's like upgrading a g3 gas miner into a g4 gas miner and all of a sudden it can't mine g3 gas anymore

Did the ship or crew forget all of a sudden?

[heavy kernel]

G3 miners get a bonus for g3, g4s for g4, a g4 miner is wasted on a g3 node.

[hoary lichen]

It doesn't drop to less than 1000

Dvor can't mine the new nodes, and the new dvor can't mine the old!?

[heavy kernel]

They can but its pointless using them to.

[hoary lichen]

Uhg.... obviously

And not the point

[heavy kernel]

You can use a meridian to mine g4, you shouldn't, but you can, likewise you can use new dvor for g4 as well.

[ember walrus]

Not the point. If a ship is used to build another it should do at least a mediocre version of the job the first ship did

[hoary lichen]

So, back to sacrificing my only maxed up dvor, for a small upgrade in the refinery... while eating massive upgrade and potential repair costs?

[heavy kernel]

The first ship did a very mediocre job of it until they added the bugged research for it.

[ember walrus]

True but it worked. New one actually seems slower than a horizon. On old lat

[earnest hornet]

It’s not a small upgrade in the refinery, your getting double

[heavy kernel]

The research for original dvor was never meant to make it as good as it is now. The new retcons that a bit, but you still have the option of getting another for that purpose.

[earnest hornet]

And it grows,

Double the lat, is very beneficial

And again eventually you can get another dvor and refine the og as well making even more lat

[heavy kernel]

Plus the new dvor brings in 10k lat a day at higher teirs.

[earnest hornet]

How much raw lat do you have at the moment??

[tawdry seal]

So if I only have one t9 old dvor, will scraping have any effect on the t9 refining bonus it gives me?

[earnest hornet]

No

Stays the same

[ember walrus]

Nope

[tawdry seal]

Sweet. While not happy about more things to mine extra lat can come in handy. 😁

[hoary lichen]

1500 to 2000 does not equal double nor does it cover the build, upgrade, and repair costs (which are insane in teir 9+)

[ember walrus]

In my case all this is moot i had 4 dvors and 27m raw. More thinking about newer players

[heavy kernel]

That's teir one

[earnest hornet]

If your getting 1500 then your not f2p and have the prime, base is 1000 for the double chest

Then new one is 2000 for the double chest

[hoary lichen]

Yes 1500 is less than 2000

[ember walrus]

I will be going from 700 to 1k so it is an upgrade and with my stock it will be 1700 vs 700

[earnest hornet]

And remember we never had those primes when the dvor came out, so eventually they will likely give boosts and primes to the new Freesha and lat refines

[earnest hornet]

Again, how much raw lat do you have??

[hoary lichen]

Atm 20m. I'm running out

[earnest hornet]

20 million…. 😂😂😂 wow

Then yes you can still refine the 1500, while getting 2000 on top so yes your doubling what your getting now

[hoary lichen]

Point is, why can't I use the same ship to mine both? I paid alot for my original dvor when it came out

[ember walrus]

Then pay again and keep both.

[hoary lichen]

Again, did it forget how to mine latinum all of a sudden?

[heavy kernel]

Not compared to what new ships cost now

[earnest hornet]

You wanted to compare it to the franklin, well it’s the same as the new franklin, totally different swarm refines for the better. Same with this

Still have new upgrade costs no matter what

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-sam-samwise-gamgee-lord-of-the-rings-circles-gif-17520001

The point is you complaining here isn’t going to change what it is designed to do, adapt, build and improve yourself. For better rewards.

[halcyon sentinel]

you guys know it's ok to say sure you have a point i can see your annoyance

as i can see bluntcids annoyance and can agree

[earnest hornet]

The og Dvor is still available and there’s no even need to rush tiering it up, cos you still keep the t9 refine so your better of in even more ways

[hoary lichen]

Btw I have another 2 max dvors refine, fighting for the little guy >_<

[earnest hornet]

Ffs

🤦‍♂️

[reef jasper]

If you wanted og dvor to mine new lat and freesha to mine old lat, you should be asking scopely to change the ship ability text

[earnest hornet]

The little guy even more so will benefit even more for the new dvor with more lat

[hoary lichen]

They could have easily incorporated the new ship with the old ones abilities

[narrow yoke]

They could have…..

[hoary lichen]

New guy ain't buying the new ship

[halcyon sentinel]

i have 1 maxed dvor and prime lat, i will scrap it as it's more lat, but losing out on 1500 daily refine until i can build another dvor is annoying

[earnest hornet]

They don’t have to buy it

[heavy kernel]

@hoary lichen That's more than double what original dvor can do.

[hoary lichen]

New guy ain't buying the old one either, xD

[halcyon sentinel]

lol t9, so next year sometime

[earnest hornet]

Where does it say they HAVE TO BUY IT

[hoary lichen]

Okay, that's news to me and I'm interested now

[narrow yoke]

You can easily complete the entire arc happily just ignoring the two SLB’s for the new tick.

[earnest hornet]

Your making up excuse and CNN singing your excuses cos you can’t keep up with the reasons why your excuses don’t keep up

[earnest hornet]

What’s news to you??

The amount of Lat?? I showed you over and over how much it does

[hoary lichen]

Yes and no. 2.0 should be able to do what 1.0 did or better

[earnest hornet]

It does do better. It gives you better refines that’s the Fn point

[hoary lichen]

Can't mine 1.0 worth a damn

[earnest hornet]

Same damn circle which I’ve explained over and over

[hoary lichen]

It's not a New ship!

Just a V2.0

[earnest hornet]

No i mean we’ve gone over this over and over

Look keep the og dvor, and get 1000 lat (without prime) or upgrade and get 2000 lat,

Instant improvement

[ripe jungle]

Woah why does the description for the OG d’vor now say “when mining concentrated latinum”

[hoary lichen]

Your right, donno why I'm trying to nail this point down with a follow gamer

[earnest hornet]

Your the one pushing a point which has no point,

[hoary lichen]

XD

It costs way more and has a massive repair cost

For small lat improvement

[reef jasper]

Just took this screenshot, didn't notice until you said it.

[earnest hornet]

Because it’s an bigger and better ship

Obviously a tool tip error, there’s dozens of those all over the place

[reef jasper]

I agree

[ripe jungle]

Why did they even touch the tool tip for the original ship 🤣

[hoary lichen]

And by improvement I don't mean in mining rate, but in refining.

[earnest hornet]

Again it’s not small, it gets better as you tier it, it well you know you can stay collecting your 1000 lat while I collect 2000 per day, growing up to my ops of 7k per day

That’s not a small improvement,

PLUS my original refines so make that 8k per day for my ops

[hoary lichen]

Have you guys looked at the repair costs? A max reg. Dvor costs nothing to repair... on the flip side...

[heavy kernel]

It's a long term payoff, first dvor was the same, how long did it take to get t9, it wasn't a weekend.

[hoary lichen]

Is that loss of rss worth the small bumb in lat refining?

[earnest hornet]

So you don’t have the franklin A?? Look at the repair costs for the compared to the og Franklin

[heavy kernel]

New dvor is a g4 ship, same issues as any other g4

[earnest hornet]

Lame excuse.

[hoary lichen]

I'm fairly sure repairing a t12 is gunna cost way more lat than it provides

[ripe jungle]

I can’t remember the last time I had to repair my d’vor

[hoary lichen]

No one is hunting your Franklin for opc

[ripe jungle]

And don’t look at the maxed t12, you get that at above ops 50 somewhere

[desert laurel]

what's the cooldown on this new refine? still 22h?

[ripe jungle]

Tier 4 repair cost doesn’t look out of line

[heavy kernel]

Not many will hunt new dvor for opc either

[hoary lichen]

Anything above t9 and it's kinda nuts

[earnest hornet]

It’s tier 5 is when it jumps cos that’s when it goes to 4* territory,

[ripe jungle]

T9 is what is locked to g5

[earnest hornet]

But the boosts also jump up there

[hoary lichen]

You kidding? Every new lat node is occupied.

[earnest hornet]

Yup

[heavy kernel]

Any that are opc?

[earnest hornet]

And there are the new officers for protected, and speed mining too.

[halcyon sentinel]

full of horizons, it's like old times

[heavy kernel]

And that's not true, I see none in lvl 45 zones let alone 49s

[hoary lichen]

No, they just mining with ships not ment for it.

Holding spots

[earnest hornet]

Because some many don’t have the new Freesha yet.

[ripe jungle]

So why does the repair cost of a feesha even matter when the ships that will be shot are horizons?

[earnest hornet]

And they can at least start getting some lat from refines, yea it’s damn slow, but hey people do what they want to do

[hoary lichen]

Of I was mining a g4 with a Botany Bay or Maridian I think it would bother you too if you had a ship ready and able to mine it

[ripe jungle]

So talk about the repair cost of a meridian or a Botany Bay?

[heavy kernel]

It's pretty simple tbh, if you don't want a new dvor, don't get it, but if you want a more lucrative lat income later you might want one.

[hoary lichen]

That's an example

[ripe jungle]

Of what?

[earnest hornet]

So?? I would shoot ya off, nothing to stop me,

That’s the game

[ripe jungle]

I mean you’re saying the ships that are mining aren’t even freesha in the first place so how does it’s repair cost even come into play?

[earnest hornet]

If there was a spare mine I would mine there

If not of course anyone would shot someone off a node

[hoary lichen]

Then I shoot you off, ect, ect

[earnest hornet]

Deal with it

Dude your just continuing to come up with stupid reasons for goodness knows what or why

[hoary lichen]

Difference is you don't care about a reg dvor

[earnest hornet]

Why, I still have one, which at t7 will easily keep up with my og lat mines and refines, while I still benefit from the new refines too

[heavy kernel]

You won't care about cost of fresh either, not by the time you're at a level where its performing properly.

[earnest hornet]

I never said I didn’t care about a reg dvor

Getting hit on nodes is the way of life no matter what you’re mining

[heavy kernel]

2 mil Trit repair us nothing compared to what you'll be spending on your warships.

[hoary lichen]

You gunna care when that dil repair cost gets up there

On a miner of all things

[earnest hornet]

That’s also before massive repair reductions

[heavy kernel]

T12 is what level, 55+?

[earnest hornet]

Yup

You’ll have dil coming out your ears at that level

And massive repair reductions also

[heavy kernel]

About 90% yeah

[earnest hornet]

Yea easily

[hoary lichen]

Aight, you boys win. See ya later

[heavy kernel]

Complaining about the cost of something way out of you're reach is a bit silly.

[hoary lichen]

Complaining about the fact that a super expensive specialized miner isn't backwards compatible.

[heavy kernel]

It doesn't need to be

[hoary lichen]

Then get your Franklin blown up by a lvl 19 swarm

[abstract gate]

They’ll complain if it blows up 😄

Until then … “scopley did it right”

[earnest hornet]

That’s like complaining that the og Franklin can’t kill 41 swarm, but I spent money on the og Franklin why should build the new one.

[abstract gate]

It’s more g3 g4 mix now, so would expect more tri and dil as rewards anyways

[earnest hornet]

See how stupid that sounds??

[hoary lichen]

What? My old school Franklin gets blown up by a 44 swarm?

Are you insane?

[desert laurel]

relax

[earnest hornet]

Exactly my point,you were complains about why should you build the new Freesha cos you spent money on the og dvor,

[abstract gate]

If it doesn’t .. show me it’s location.. I’ll blow up the og Franklin ship 😄

[earnest hornet]

Well cos it’s designed to do what it does and better then the og

Same way the new franklin was an improvement on what the og Franklin does.

[hoary lichen]

Never said anything about money. All I said is why isn't 2.0 not backwards compatible. Like Franklin 2.0 being able to take out what the og Franklin did.

[earnest hornet]

Because it’s designed for different things both franklins and both dvors, each for their own purpose

[abstract gate]

I think they are trying to fix that high speed mining on lat with normal Dvor with this new Dvor .. all guess

[heavy kernel]

Frank A doesn't mine any better than franklin

[earnest hornet]

😂

[earnest hornet]

But you don’t need to stop mining with an og dvor, cos you can still benefit from both refines. Cos you can still get the og dvor

[hoary lichen]

I understand the the only dvor can't mine the new lat nodes.... why can't the new one mine the old?

[heavy kernel]

The new dvor certainly stops opc snipers a lot easier.

[earnest hornet]

Because it’s not supposed to

Totally different mechanics

[abstract gate]

That’s some design choice really, we can’t say anyways. Once they hear a big outcry on this, they might add research tree to have it mine the same as the OG .

[heavy kernel]

They might apply current research to new dvor as well

[earnest hornet]

The og dvor never had the researches we have now when it first came out either

[heavy kernel]

Although I suspect that you'll be unlikely to waste time mining normal lat nodes

[abstract gate]

Yeah possibility.. when that feedback form comes up.: it’s always good to fill that up with user specific problems

[earnest hornet]

It was 12-18 months before we got those

[earnest hornet]

Exactly when the dvor came out those didn’t exist

[hoary lichen]

Yet, most of the Franklin research applies to the Franklin-A

[heavy kernel]

@hoary lichen Do you waste time mining red data every day still? Or do you just mine the green, like the rest of us.

[earnest hornet]

Only the original 4 combat ones, the ones to the left of the dvor ones, they don’t, which again those dvor and franklin ones at that point in the tree came 12-18 months AFTER those ships came out

[desert laurel]

the most important one, impulse speed, doesn't and that makes it much worse at killing weak swarms than the og franklin

[heavy kernel]

Kinda a moot point when you need to kill 3x less hostiles

[hoary lichen]

Non the less, why isn't this all backwards compatible?

[earnest hornet]

Because it wasn’t designed to be, how many times do I need to say it

[hoary lichen]

A dvor Is a dvor is a dvor

[earnest hornet]

To get through to that rain

[earnest hornet]

No a dvor is a dvor and a Freesha is a Freesha

[hoary lichen]

Especially when you have to scrap one to 'improve' it

[earnest hornet]

Go put a g4 miner on a g3 node it doesn’t mine as fast as a g3 miner does, you use the right ship for the right job

[desert laurel]

if you decide to "improve" your car by sticking wings on it so it can now fly, it'll be worse as a regular car because of all the extra weight and drag

[earnest hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-exhausted-dragging-kid-pulling-kid-gif-13568073

😂😂

[desert laurel]

new capabilities at the cost of old ones, nbd. Why do you think it matters so much?

[hoary lichen]

Then why put wings on it?

[desert laurel]

so it can fly? it's gained quite a bit by being able to fly

[hoary lichen]

And make us all suffer

[abstract gate]

@hoary lichen honestly scopley devs throw features like this many times until they hear users / gamers. Best we can do, Provide feedback / tell CS what is it that you expect .

If dvorA can’t mine old lat, as a player we can’t do anything but provide a feedback and not play old lat with DvorA

[heavy kernel]

At the end of the day neither of the Dvors matter much you still get more lat from away teams, it's just an additional regular source. The old dvor gave nothing really for higher level players, the new one gives them a reasonable boost.

[desert laurel]

if that's a 22h timer, that's way more lat than I expected. Probably is the defining piece to power people through early g4

[hoary lichen]

Not if you're giving up your only max dvor to obtain it

[earnest hornet]

To get more lat then keeping your max dvor

[hoary lichen]

Low warp and all of a sudden you're competing when you didn't have too

[desert laurel]

the only people doing that are those without prior knowledge. Everyone coming into it knows ahead of time that they'll want 2 dvors

[heavy kernel]

Why? If its mostly insignificant, what's the purpose of keeping it, when you can turn it into something that can make a bit of a difference.

[earnest hornet]

Then I’m guess you kept the og Franklin

[desert laurel]

and I'd rather have the new one, there's more room to grow with it

[earnest hornet]

And didn’t get the new for the better refines

[hoary lichen]

Because it's not backwards compatible. With the Franklin you can still do swarms.

With this ship you can't go back

[earnest hornet]

But that’s not the point it’s the refines

[heavy kernel]

Why would you want to?

[hoary lichen]

To stock up if you run low

Can't do it now

[earnest hornet]

Run low if what?

[desert laurel]

you're now refining a newer, better material, with better rewards. The old's still there if you want to build another dvor, which you should

[earnest hornet]

Don’t bother he’s complaining yet has 3 maxed dvors

[hoary lichen]

What about those who dont?

[heavy kernel]

On normal raw lat, who cares? So you can get 1500 lat a day? Why? When you can get over 10k mining the upgraded version.

[edgy tundra]

We finally have faces to go with the names

[desert laurel]

Everyone with one dvor knows to get another after upgrading to feesha

[earnest hornet]

AGAIN, They will be better off by getting better refines, and when they are able to build another dvor they can,

[heavy kernel]

It's the same as you saying you want to shot level 5 hostiles with a Sally. You can, but it's pointless, waste of your time. Same applies to the dvor.

[earnest hornet]

So instead, your saying they will give up getting 2000 Lat, and keep getting 1000

Totally logical…..

[hoary lichen]

Scopely litteraly said this is exactly like Franklin 2.0

[earnest hornet]

No they didn’t

[hoary lichen]

And it's obvious not

[earnest hornet]

They said it’s the same scrapping mechanism as the franklin, scrap the old to get the new

The new franklin give new biotic, and you can’t use those for the old Franklin, they use new parts and can’t use for the old Franklin.

[earnest hornet]

Exactly what I said, the scrapping mechanic, they didn’t say it was exactly the same as the franklin

[desert laurel]

whoa now, I was expecting the words "exactly like" in that. You're reading way too much into "similar to"

[hoary lichen]

Where is the backwards compatibility?

[heavy kernel]

You only go shooting 32/35s with a Franklin to finish off the low level daily/threat event, only so you can get a few more resources, but really it's a waste of time doing so.

[earnest hornet]

Because the swarm and the lat are 2 totally different game mechanics,

[ocean juniper]

There is none. Where did they promise there would be?

[earnest hornet]

There are similarities in certain aspects like I said the scrapping old to make a new,

But NO where did they say it was exactly the same.

The franklin A isn’t the same as the old Franklin it has a whole new refinery mechanism, the same as the new Dvor has a new refinery mechanism

And you can do the old and new in both franky and dvor styles of play

[hoary lichen]

Yall are right, on my last point I digress

I'm still standing by having a V2.0 being able to mine V1.0 equal to or better

[heavy kernel]

It's a mild irritant, sure. But pretty insignificant in the long run. At least the new one actually works, instead of being a buggy mess like most releases.

[ember walrus]

One key thing here is franklin was based off dailies. Dvor on mined rss

[ember walrus]

Well bugs we can see yet

[heavy kernel]

They designed it to replace the dvor, not to complement it. And from what I see, it blow the old dvor away.

[ember walrus]

Probably not for time vs reward at t1 vs t9

Soon ish depending on parts sourcing

For instance it cant reach its nodes at base

[heavy kernel]

Nope, but franklin wasn't really any better than its original when it released, and takes a lot of time to improve.

[ember walrus]

3x boost kinda made up for that in dailies

[heavy kernel]

Yeah 3x slower, and 5x more expensive to repair though.

[ember walrus]

True but rewards were 100x better

[earnest hornet]

What?? the franklin A was instantly better then the OG Franklin outta the box

and didnt take much to start some upgrades

[heavy kernel]

It really wasn't, Rose tinted glasses mate

[ember walrus]

Almost cargo was trash, long warp, and cost a ton more to repair

[earnest hornet]

heck no, right outta the box i could kill more 35s and i couldn't event do that with the OG franklin where i was at.

it didnt need high cargo,

[ember walrus]

Then you had research issues

[earnest hornet]

no, I could kill more 35s with the franklin A, over the og franklin

right outta the box, it was better then the franklin

[heavy kernel]

I could kill much the same with og Frank as Frank A, and repair at a fraction of the price

[ember walrus]

I was honestly expecting Vidar A not dvor A but meh its just an overpriced game

[heavy kernel]

Vidar A next month, or next borg arc... Shudder 😱

[edgy tundra]

Franklin A was weak for Cargo but you didn't need much to upgrade. The new FM's are not the old. Just don't use the A on level 35 and below.

[ember walrus]

Vidar is a faster grind than dvor

[heavy kernel]

Depends, if they link new vidar parts to trader antiques 😂

[ember walrus]

Oh god no

[heavy kernel]

Scopley have an uncanny ability to make things worse.

[ember walrus]

Not wrong there

[vital drum]

It would be good if it could mine lat at a reasonable speed too, I suspect the coding can't handle more than base mining + 1 speciality bonus. I can't think of any miner which can do that.

[desert laurel]

g4 skinned miners count?

[vital drum]

Skins are a different mechanic

[fathom shuttle]

Then build one solely for scrapping. You should be doing that repeatedly with all the ops26 faction ships to get through the 40s

[vital drum]

Which strongly suggested getting your Enterprise/Augur/D4 to a level that you are going to be happy with before you go Ops 40 because they are going to compete with the Ops 26 faction ships. What's that, tier 8?

[fervent grail]

I had a t4 d4 when I went into ops 40s 🙈

[dim juniper]

cant do anything on the game thismorning, buggy as hell

[abstract gate]

Now do the maths on how much trit you spent killing the 35s and how many speedboats you used.

[fathom shuttle]

T8 is a good spot. That's when they start to want unholy amounts of blue 3*. 😂

[gloomy zinc]

Really disappointed in the new arc. My best dvor is only T8 and I need about 200k dvor parts to get it to tier 9. Unlike the Franklin you cannot grind for parts so im stuck with getting about 900 per day through the refinery. Really poor design.

[earnest hornet]

It’s not a huge deal if you can’t get the ship this month, your not missing out on really much event wise if you don’t have it this month, events aren’t requiring it, and it’s something that you’ll still be able to do when you can scrap and build a new one.

How close are you to t9? Are you closer to a second t8 dvor??

You could scrap 2x t8 dvors if you are really wanting to try for it.

[gloomy zinc]

Well there is an SLB right now that needs it so there is one event I can't compete in

Miles away from T9 and my next one is only T6 so its going to be a couple of months

[abstract gate]

As opposed to the unholy amount of green 3* they’ve been consuming for the four tiers previous? 🤣

[fathom shuttle]

Yes. 😂
Well the 26s that you want to scrap conflict with the green stuff way more so you need to get that out of the way first. 🙂

[winged tulip]

Yay, another miner i need to refresh every 30 mins because the protected cargo is 💩

[abstract gate]

the cargo is 💩

[brittle snow]

Any news about non bp events? I mean since yesterday

[fathom shuttle]

well the ferengi crew seems to be there to solve the pc problem

[dapper drum]

Except 1

He makes it worse

I'm just surprised scopely allowed their likeness in game

[simple lark]

I think it's called a homage.

[brave crescent]

Hallo, haben die Devs etwas gesagt ob ein Jelly-Pursuit Event kommt in diesem Monat?

[blazing tide]

Where the heck is the key for the additional dock? Can’t find it anywhere, neither in shop, nor elsewhere 😒

And yes, I’m lvl35

[cunning radish]

Maybe because it’s not available yet!

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[earnest hornet]

Because it’s not out until the Quark SLB event this weekend

[cunning atlas]

So, no cosmic cleanup or jelly events this month? Nothing in the schedule

[brave crescent]

Hi, have the devs said anything if a Jelly Pursuit event is coming this month?

[earnest hornet]

Yes and answered a few times….

[earnest hornet]

And cosmic clean up is always on the arc weekends

[cunning atlas]

Cool but I have a life outside of the game so I can't read these hundreds if not thousands of messages

[simple seal]

whoa, jelly fish brawl is today!

[cunning atlas]

Also, no dedicated QA section visible

[dapper drum]

so no jelly brawl or si vis pacem para bellum events this arc

don't see it in the calendar that tells us all that will and will not be

also has not looked at calendar at all

[brave crescent]

I mean the pursuit to get the jelly

[elder gyro]

Thought jelly brawl was a 2 day event now and we get 2 para bellum

[dapper drum]

use to be 2 seperate events now its just 1 with rewards of 1

[viral yarrow]

<@&509691205798592532> why only 1 parabellum event this month? This event is the only way to get badly needed mats to grow.
There has always been 3 is this scopley way way of slowing down play and unfairly treating players that are only starting to need those mats

[dapper drum]

you tagged wrong group

try @DEVS next time

and yes scopely wants you to spend, there is no other agenda

[abstract gate]

So I scrapped my really efficient D'vor for something that is effectively garbage. The new ship has a low mining rate, low cargo space, and even lower protected cargo. Ridiculous

[dapper drum]

so you fell for it

congrats you let scopely play you

[abstract gate]

Definition of insanity. Doing something repeatedly even though you know it's bad. I didn't get to level 41 because I knew what was good for me. 🤣

[tacit owl]

Worst part is Feesha is useless on raw lat, so scrapping Dvor is a trade off, not an upgrade

[abstract gate]

With the new mining officer with Synergy will give 12000%, i dont call that a low mining rate

[crystal dagger]

That Don t work on normal latinium

[abstract gate]

Its not meant for normal Latinum

[crystal dagger]

So you have to keep a normal dvor

[abstract gate]

You do if you want to mine regular Latinum

[weak gust]

Please add the Dvor Parts in the current Event Store.

[hardy parcel]

Tbf that doesn't answer the question.
They asked about Jellyfish Persuit not para bellum or brawl.

[blazing tide]

I haven’t understood the difference between concentrated and raw Latinum, yet. Both will refine to the same Latinum. So why to bother with the new ship?

[hardy parcel]

A lot more latinum

And more latinum is always good

[upbeat kestrel]

@livid jolt I heard rumours Lat Rush was getting a rework, any spoilers and/or a timeline?

[blazing tide]

Ok, but with a T9 DVor it’s the same amount as with T1 Freesha, as I can see. Well, will see. Need to grow my 2nd and 3rd DVor prior to invest my big one into a Freesha.

[bitter snow]

500 more from the new refinery if you're looking at prime double pulls vs t1 double pull feesa? So far as I understand?

[upbeat kestrel]

You also don't lose the T9 refinery when you upgrade to feesha

So its a net gain of 2k lat per day

[bitter snow]

Just the ability to mine it efficiently if you only had one dvor

[upbeat kestrel]

I mean, if you have a t9 dvor. Chances are you have the BPs to build a second one

[hardy parcel]

Exactly. A t9 dvor is similar to a t1 feesha. So what about a t9 feesha?

And you can have both

[eager hollow]

@upbeat kestrel DJ said not this Monday but maybe next Monday for lat rush update

[upbeat kestrel]

👍

[fast lance]

So has anyone else noticed that the War and Business event incorrectly named the Rule of Acquisition?

Yep. I pulled out my copy and had to verify. 😏

Shame, Scopely. Shame.
<@&509691611903426561>

[hardy parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[swift lotus]

So I have the new bug... it can't even get to the new lat systems. Base is warp 36

[hardy parcel]

Not even with ghrush and scotty?

Should reach wolf at least

[fathom shuttle]

there are lower warp systems than wolf with new lat

[swift lotus]

Where?

[hardy parcel]

There's a full list in the patch notes

Sorry not the notes

https://stfc.space/systems?f=$name=%26warp:-1%26mining:false%26housing:false%26missions:false%26minLevel:1%26maxLevel:60%26minWarp:1%26maxWarp:600%26resources@:2164745208;%26hostiles@;%26he:false%26me:false%26faction:-1%26page:1%26scout:false%26ns:0&s=$ascending:true%26sortBy:1

Here

[neon crescent]

The leaderboard event for building/mining with the new ship on my server has 20 people on it.

Can we please address the massive lack of D’vor parts needed to be able to compete in this arc at all?

[hardy parcel]

What?
We can complete the arc without the feesha, calm down.
🤣

But I would like more parts, around 170k please scopely 🙏

[narrow yoke]

50 here. Scrapping finished so more ppl building new. But very few buyers, it seems.

[narrow yoke]

I actually like this a lot. You can ignore the new ship completely and still complete the arc and unlock some of the officers. The SLB rewards are a few chests and a vanity avatar - if you want that.

[hardy parcel]

IF £18 had been half a ship, I'd have bought one
But this habit of overpricing ships has put me off spending anything

[ember walrus]

Its an anoying feature use grush or cadet scotty

[hardy parcel]

Not even getting the pass this month

[neon crescent]

Compete not complete. It’s not possible to score in leaderboard events without the new ship. You can complete the battle pass but not compete in leaderboards

[hardy parcel]

You ALWAYS have to drop $$$ to compete.

What's new? 🤣

[narrow yoke]

I think the only SLB you can’t compete in are the 2 specific to the feesha. Everything else is the standard fare.

[neon crescent]

Costs money to hit the top spots. Usually doesn’t cost anything to get on the board

[ember walrus]

I give you any spend event as a ftp as pay to win

[narrow yoke]

I am not going to say that SLB events don’t almost always have a p2w hook. Or that this is not a p2w game. I am just saying that if you ignore those two SLB’s, it looks like you can happily complete the arc and BP with little issue and no (or little) spend.

My main gripe - ignoring the new tick issues - is the same as most lvl 39+ players : Give me more Brawl and SVP.

DJz’ new vid is up. Bbl.

[hardy parcel]

That depends how busy the server is.
On quiet servers that may be true.

[abstract gate]

Send money .. I’ll complete it for you 😄

[hardy parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-cowell-thats-a-no-its-a-no-its-a-no-from-me-gif-7663264

[fierce cosmos]

So we run into the same issue with these events... Which is lack of communication and intent...

I noticed news got some updates, like the Recruit Ferengi is identified as an ALB...

So this means we probably have to plan, but... All we get is Recruit Fess and Arrock? What does this mean? We wait for the event to claim their shards? There are two of these, are they supposed to line up with an SMS that rewards enough shards to unlock?

Y'all design these events that penalize if you do anything before the event, but then don't tell us what we should not be doing in anticipation for event.

[scenic kernel]

they seem to underline in yellow what you need, so for recruit ferengi, it seems to hint at shards for those officers

[fierce cosmos]

The problem is they've done different variations on what "recruit officer" means. Is it unlock? Gain shards? Will it be a bonus getting their shards but obtaining other officer shards also count (so we save recruit tickets for these events)?

[hardy parcel]

Well 99.99% of the time "recruit" = gain shards.

[brittle snow]

any news regarding parabellum and jelly brawl?

[hardy parcel]

Yes

Read up

[fierce cosmos]

It's pinned, and has been asked repeatedly over the last day

[hardy parcel]

Insults will get you nowhere. There's a schedule up there. The search button is your friend moody

[barren lotus]

Maybe at higher levels. I am almost ftp (monthly battle pass) and unlocked 11/11, HG Worf, and Lorca on the LBs. It can be done. You just have to save. But I am only a 28 so I admit I have no idea what the higher levels are like.

[hardy parcel]

You can't save for every LB though, admittedly you can blitz a few now and then, but you'll never compete with the whales

[cold horizon]

Will this arc become interesting to put any effort in for lvl35-‘s, or did scopely again deliberately ignore ‘lower’ lvl players?
This is by far the most boring arc atm

It seems scopley just dint care about that.

[hardy parcel]

You have 3 new officers at least. Same as me and I'm level 41 lol

[cold horizon]

Far more chance to get 1 5m speedup than 1 shard….
Event store is a sad joke

What where they thinking when they put this in? Let’s again annoy our customers? I cannot see any other reason

[winged tulip]

Yes, as intended.

[hardy parcel]

Are we playing the same game?

Why are you surprised?

This is scopely 🤣

[astral bolt]

RSS and materials

[cold horizon]

I know. They excel in getting worse over and over. This is a new low

[hardy parcel]

I mean they made it into the urban dictionary

[tacit pollen]

what 😆

[cold horizon]

I wonder if Scopely is aware of this sentiment….

[near sequoia]

they dont care, the are indenial, critics not exist in their vocabulary (they call it hate) 🤣

this entry was shares 2 years before in reddit too but scopely doesnt care and scopeleyd us just more and more 🤣

[cold horizon]

They just send any remarks to ‘the team’. The team throws all directly in the dust bin

[near sequoia]

🤣

[cold horizon]

They never ever made any excuse on not even one of their very numerous fails

[serene ridge]

They do give the elite life chat bans (takes a bow )

[cold horizon]

They clearly do not have any quality control whatsover

Customer ‘support’ excels in not giving any support

[zealous fog]

curious how everyone's servers are handling the concentrated lat node issue. Every node in the galaxy is occupied, and 90+% are being occupied by regular miners. People with the DvorF are having a hard time finding nodes for the event, and general ROE is still "don't hit miners on nodes unless 0 or opl"

[abstract gate]

We have had a specialty ships rule and extended it

I.e. feesha only on the concentrated stuff

At least until our admirals can spend a few weeks deliberating back and forth 😅

[copper onyx]

Last I checked, the Ferengi would be happy with Latinum from any source.... so why doesn't this Extraction SMS have a point score for the normal Latinum? it can be lower than the concentrated, but this is a joke!

[winged tulip]

They want to punish you for not scrapping your dvor

[copper onyx]

I can't yet.... not the right Ops level... short a couple

[near sequoia]

cuz noone will get the dvor a then cuz usual dvor is maxed and faster

[dull crane]

So apparently old school lat events and mechanics was something we all missed so they brought it back…. Thanks scopely great game improvement

[copper onyx]

That's just a case of getting the scoring multipliers right 🙂 very easy to have the new D'Vor better for the event, even with the original in use as well

[dull crane]

If your on a server you can somehow get a node without camping for a week

[near sequoia]

as i have said, noone would make the effort to scrap then, or sellings would be not that good

forcing to use 1 ship is from psychological view much smarter as a selling strategy

[copper onyx]

Think you're missing my point... it would be very easy to make the new D'Vor preferable to use for this event, and in general.... the fact they didn't make the new D'Vor cover the old D'Vor uses too is probably their mistake..

[dull crane]

That’s one of many with this arc so far I agree with that 🍺

[near sequoia]

yeah missed your point now i got ya point

[twilit kestrel]

Does anyone have the new arc calendar pls

[mellow zodiac]

@Scopley finished all events in under 15mins and ams done with 3 days to spare. Too easy. More challenge please.

[desert laurel]

#🏆-event-chat message
These usually get pinned monthly

[plucky ermine]

is this really working as intended? If I make use of 50 turn ins for the dabo reward, I get like 1850 4* UC. One Jelly Brawl awards about 4k UC 4*. Ops 42 building requires 22k UC ore. This does not add up if you ask me.

[lost quarry]

Agree.. very underwhelming events this month so far…

[desert laurel]

The packs were taken down to have their contents fixed so whatever's in there now should be considered as intended. If you only focus on one item in there then it may not be a good buy, but as a whole, it's pretty nice

[brave crescent]

@junior domes Any info for a Jelly pursuit event this month?

[ocean juniper]

in the pinned replies.

[brave crescent]

No its not. There is only Jelly Brawl and Parabellum not the pursuit

[tacit fern]

Any1 else not receiving points in war is good for buissness Ams event supposed to get 1 point per hostile, not received any.

[ocean juniper]

Ah, my bad, sorry. I'm not up to ISS Jelly levels yet, so I get the names of the relevant stuff confused.

[brave crescent]

No problem. you only want help. thank oyu

[twilit kestrel]

@desert laurel thank u kindly for information 🙏 ☺

[blazing falcon]

why lvl 39 have a 1.76 mil points for mining event, but lvl 41 have a 1.4 mil???

[cold horizon]

Correct. As intended? I hope not…

[blazing falcon]

i cant hate mining more i'm already hate this too much

[halcyon kindle]

I was about to ask the same, me and an alliance member are also questionning..

[hexed lark]

<@&509691205798592532> new Dvor Feesha is causing a problem with the regular lat refinery prime. My refine for regular lat went from 480 down to 350 with update and gold prime border is gone from lat refinery.

[lime eagle]

So i scrapped.my t5 dvor got.60 shards. My tier 8 dvor shows 0 bps in the rewards... wth?

[hexed lark]

Pick up the bp from your lat refinery.

[lime eagle]

But dont i get it for scrapping.

T8 shows no bps prior to scrapping as my t5 did (60)

[bitter snow]

Sounds like you got them backward... T8 would be 60 cores

T5 is nothing

unless the t8 isn't levelled, but that wouldn't explain the t5 giving cores... so I think most likely is you got the ships muddled

[plucky ermine]

I don't see how making the G-Dock available 1 day earlier for purchase increases the quality of the arc?

[bitter snow]

Literally just to stop the FOMO crowd from buying it and maxing it before the material spending event

And then complaining that they "didn't know the event was coming"

[trail crescent]

Level is important not tier

[clear barn]

Do you have a better quality picture plz?

[desert laurel]

sorry, I've edited the message too. The original is here:
#🏆-event-chat message

[hearty dust]

You don't get levels without the tiers lol

[stiff moss]

Moving the dock forward by a few hours was not the kind of change we were looking for in this arc part

[trail crescent]

No but you get more bp by levelling up.

He said his is t8 so needs to be at lvl 40

[neon crescent]

You’ve heard feedback about drydock G, but have you heard feedback on the need to give people a way to get D’vor parts?

They can’t be grinded like mods with Franklin. Waiting for the RnG gods, to be able to participate in leaderboards is insane

[hearty dust]

Yeah but you said tier isn't important. You can't level up without the tiers.

[trail crescent]

Yeah thought that was given.

[hearty dust]

You're the one that said tier wasn't important lol. Despite level being entirely dependent on tier.

[bitter snow]

36 actually

[soft fossil]

No one said the dock was the problem. You had me give up a maxed ship for a useless ship without any way of upgrading without dropping lots of coins that mines so slow, has no pcl, now I have something else that needs hours to mine on top of the 10,000 other things you think I should mine

[novel hollow]

🎣

[hearty dust]

If you jumped straight in without waiting for info and opinions, that's on you lol.

[abstract gate]

New mining officer + synergy gives 12000%

[crystal stream]

Fix the event store next. Add dvor parts. Fix the Dabo table. Having a 70% chance to get 2 minute speed ups is insulting. That is the equivalent of 2 lat.

And if you did all turn it's for 1 3*, you get 150 rare and 350 uncommon. Most people will refine more than than during the month.

I doubt I will be buying the battlepass this time because the arc is so bad. The rewards are ao bad. The events are so bad. Everything is so bad.

[hearty dust]

Just because the new Franklin was awesome. It would be a mistake to assume all "upgraded" version will also be awesome.

[bitter snow]

It's an opportunity for more lat, it just, comes at a cost

[soft fossil]

A solution 5 weeks from now assuming I win leaderboards or spend money. Oh and the ship might just be t2 at that point. As a soon to be level 50 tired of everything rolling out just expecting me to buy my way to where the ship should be in my gameplay based on all the money I already invested!

[hearty dust]

You don't buy the BP based on the quality of the arc. You buy the BP for exactly what it is. The best value pack in the entire game lol.

[tawny void]

Think I am the only player that will find the new ship useful by the looks of it. I spend lat as soon as I get it though so every little helps👀😂

[soft fossil]

2k lat isn’t worth the time i am having to invest per day when I can just drop 100 and get 200k lat in the good packs

[viscid sinew]

Who asked for yet another thing to mine?

[abstract gate]

Lol 100 for a Latinum pack

[ripe jungle]

It looks like with the new crew you’ll be able to even mine with a horizon

[hearty dust]

Nobody wants more things to mine with anything though 😅

[viscid sinew]

And how much do you have to pay to get the new ferengi crew? 😂😂

[remote ferry]

The world needs ditch diggers miners too.

[hearty dust]

They could have just made this new ship mine the same latinum, just with more benefits from it.

[ripe jungle]

Except for quark the other two will probably get unlocked for free

[viscid sinew]

Hah!

[abstract gate]

Arrock is the one you need

[ripe jungle]

6/36 two days in

[soft fossil]

Not sure why they even still have that in the store, no one ever bought it

[viscid sinew]

He's the most useful one, as you can skip the Feeces then, at least until you organically acquire it

[desert laurel]

I heard some CCs bought it before

[ripe jungle]

They’re only 66 shards between them, I’m pretty confident it’ll get done

[desert laurel]

they make money from content though, so probably still profited

[viscid sinew]

They use it as justification for putting SALE and BEST VALUE on the other packs

[abstract gate]

Bargain

get 2

[soft fossil]

At 2.5 hours to get to a refine for 2k lat. It’s a lot more worth my time to get just get a pack and hard pass on this whole arc.

[abstract gate]

Get the station pack instead

Station pack gives me 211k lat, 100B stell and lots of gas, crystal and ore

[soft fossil]

That was the station pack

[abstract gate]

Go for it

[crystal stream]

How about add a way to get more dvor bp to replace the one scrapped so people are not hosed with a C lat miner and no regular lat miner.

[ripe jungle]

There’s already ways to get more

[stable escarp]

Part 1 implies there’s more arcs coming for this fire drill. Is there?

[viscid sinew]

Just built a second d'vor... When I get that to tier 9, I'll scrap it. You can sense I'm in a hurry, right? 😂

[inner cave]

The extraction events# is a bit silly, shouldn’t this event be giving more points for the new lat??

[vestal light]

Is there any leaderboards for spending materials this month?

[inner cave]

Also shouldn’t an event that gives some parts for the new Dvor. Or even the dabo event. The parts the refinery give us silly. Will@take even longer than normal dvor to up

[inner cave]

Yes quarq event. If you look at event clandestine in the news feed in game this tells you

[vestal light]

It says SMS event ... Not leaderboard

[wind fog]

Yes, we need more Dvor parts so $copely refuses to give us an event. And the most logical way is to put some in event store, but no, they rather anger their player base.

[barren lotus]

Which is exactly why it is best to know what is coming. Then you go all in one the one or two. For event LBs I am fortunately not yet in with the whales. On the dailies I got thrown in with the whales at lvl 28 at which point I concentrated on daily MS only.

[agile lotus]

No ISS jellyfish pursuit this month?

[terse gale]

Jelly brawl happened today, but it wasn’t on the calendar. They’re doing them, just didn’t put them on the list.

Any word anywhere about price of this new dock?

[earnest hornet]

Yes $50 USD

Or in a marked full station pack for $100

[terse gale]

$50 wouldn’t be too bad. Would have to see the value of a bigger pack.

[earnest hornet]

Yea apparently it’s what your station pack is plus the dock. But yea will be interesting

[knotty viper]

So will quark be another officer that requires independent credits to lvl? If so will they improve sourcing?

I know I know, that second question was just silly.

[tawdry seal]

The Tribble and Maki do not boost the Feesha mining rate? Mine does not show any changes with or without them on new ship.

[weak copper]

Because the ship itself has a massive boost to its mining rate via the ship ability. Any extra added by the Tribble or Makkinen will be extremely small. That’s why one of the new officers boosts the mining speed by thousands of percent

It’s the same on the old D’vor

[tawdry seal]

Cause scopley ok I got it. Someone got lazy. 👍 don’t even know why I ask here anymore. 🙄 thanks

[robust vapor]

Though not really true for the old D'Vor. The ship ability itself is multiplied by any mining speed bonuses, it's that the research adds so much mining speed bonus that 10 is now pointless.

[dense saffron]

The new D’vor is a poor trade for a maxed old one. It should be like the FrankA where it retains the strengths of the scrapped ship and builds on them. This will annoy many players persuaded to scrap & build. 🤬

[real geyser]

So more armada events this weekend coming up. Any plans for scopely to give out directives? Ever?

[robust vapor]

You don't have a second D'Vor? Even at low level they mine fast with the research.

[halcyon patio]

I won't have a second one because I need to scrap 3 for new one ( still have time to think if worth it, 25k parts needed for 3rd won't come easily 😀 ) and then wait 1 year for new og one 😅

[dapper drum]

thats not what scopely intended, you are suppose to buy the new one

they put that method in there for that reason

just ignore the new crap, not game breaking to do so

[bitter snow]

That's the thing I'm taking from this - sure, you could get up to 2k more lat a day if you're doing both refines, or you could get 500 more if you're swapping over.
But that's at the cost of mining a different, slower, resource, taking more time in game potentially

At the moment, it takes, maybe an hour of interaction to get a full week of latinum refines. So is the additional effort for the bigger payout from the new dvor worth while?

To some it will be, some it won't, and both are fair options 🙂

[dapper drum]

the payout from old dvor not even worth the effort

[bitter snow]

a week of refines is enough to do the lat rush SMS, + a bit extra, so it falls into my "Well, I'd be mining anyway, so the lat is free" type approach

Same as, I only do a ticketed event usually if it overlaps with one of the other events I'd be doing anyway that day

[dapper drum]

I don't do lat for the sms

2x a year I do the SLB

[bitter snow]

2x too much for me 🤣

[dapper drum]

otherwise the sms is done from doing dailies

[bitter snow]

mining dailies are overnight, if I'm doing them... I'd stopped bothering for a long time on old account, and they don't scratch the SMS on low ops yet

[dapper drum]

overnight for me is at work

so I can clear 100k g4 node on gas/crystal and 60k g3 ore node

[brave crescent]

@junior domes ist there a ​iss jellyfish Pursuit Event planned this month? I only see Brawl and Parabellum

[dapper drum]

you tagged some random person 🤣

devs don't like being bothered about this game, they hate it just as much as us

so you can't tag them

[brave crescent]

haha

[hardy parcel]

@bitter snow yeah, my thoughts are that it's only worthwhile at the moment to have both. There is very little point scrapping all your dvor for the feesha.

Of course if they significantly change lat rush that may alter things

[radiant rivet]

I've pretty much only upgraded my D'Vor since it became fast mining and have one rather fresh at tier 8. It takes a staggering 255K D'Vor parts to upgrade it to Tier 9.

What's the average daily pull? Like a 1000? And there's pretty much no other sourcing of the parts.

Got two Tier 7 D'Vors too ... dunno if running one of those to tier 8 would be faster - then scrap two Tier 8?

"Only" 170K D'Vor parts to upgrade from Tiet 7 to 8.

So between 170 to 255 days?😭

[bitter snow]

2x T8 is 5k parts less than a single T9 if you're going from zero, so it'll depend how far through T7 they are

[radiant rivet]

Sadly they're totally fresh Tier 7

[hardy parcel]

I've got one t8 and one t7. About 6ish months from a third.
So I'll tier up the t7 one to t8 and scrap 2x t8 when I get a third.
No rush

[radiant rivet]

No rush ... when it ought to be Latinum Rush 🙂

[hardy parcel]

🤣👍

[radiant rivet]

I seriously hope they do something. Like add some additional crates so that you get a feel more like the iso-emulsion pulls. I have millions of latinum just sitting there, but no way to refine any of it faster. I'm hoping Scopely has something coming to change that.

[fierce osprey]

WTF?!
War & Business SMS -Extraction.
Why I have to score 1.76M points at lvl38, while players at lvl43 have to score only 1.42M?

[fair summit]

i thought at one point during lat rush raw latinum gave 145 point per piece so i was always starting up mining the night before and at rest send everything home and be done instantly.

[fierce osprey]

The question is why should I score more points than a higher-level player?

[desert laurel]

did you find it difficult to finish?

[unkempt lava]

The reason is pretty obvious if you ask me. Because scopely.

[fierce osprey]

It doesn’t matter.
What really does matter is that developers screwed up again.
I have to spend much more time to complete this event.

[bitter snow]

What do your usual 'Master Surveyor' battlepass events clock in at?

[shrewd light]

Anyone else think the event store is a joke?