🏆-event-chat

[hard oxide]

its been too long

[proud wing]

Also sitting at building 44, waiting for an event to go to 45, and new skills

[modest sparrow]

Why the heck is there no rare 5* in the SLB event at ops 55???

Those whole mirror events are designed like 💩
There's absolutely no reason for scoring in SLBs without rare 5* material

[velvet phoenix]

So today the mysterious gorn ship bp start
We will finally see why they not communicate about it
Pichfork ready 😂

[zinc holly]

It’s gonna be SLBs maybe and the one with the most Turas BP gets the highest ranking 😂

[modest sparrow]

<@&509690795536941056>

[supple token]

Checking

[modest sparrow]

Same in the other SLB Event (Mirror Upgrades Event)

[wicked arrow]

<@&509690795536941056> Can we get a tooltip with the capacity limit on these two please?

[naive meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-looney-duck-season-rabbit-season-gif-13909635

[modest sparrow]

I mean let me get this straight:
Big + for changing event brackets from 51-60 to 50-55 and 56-60 (or so) BUT what are those brackets good for if you align the rewards to the lowest level in those brackets? That either means the brackets are chosen poorly or the rewards don't fit the players...

A 55 player doesn't need the 3* stuff and only some 4* stuff but depends fully on rare 5* material whereas a 52 player can't do lots with the rare 5* mats...

[slender fjord]

Sure

[sharp raft]

Anyone else notice that the refinery cost/payout research at level 4 (300%) actually increases the cost of the 2-chest trellium-d refine by 846%? How does that figure?

[bold venture]

i would assume that 300% is referencing the payout, and the cost increase is not listed. costs rising disproportionately relative to payouts as the working cost of getting your prizes faster is incredibly normal. very few things in STFC work any differently than that.

[modest sparrow]

Any news already because the event ends in 1 min...

[rare verge]

Cost me more to get there than what I would gain?

[night blade]

yo, where is that gorn ship event

[warped ginkgo]

How so? I can do this with 1 trip to the first system..

[rare verge]

I don’t go to the 1st system

[bold venture]

but you could get that prize without spending any of the item in question

[desert laurel]

Evi's event starts today. Since it's a regular event, I'd expect it to pop at the 2nd reset.

[rare verge]

I want a decent return for the effort? Not too much to ask for 🤣🤣

[warped ginkgo]

Sounds like a you problem then 😆

[bold venture]

perhaps you just need to be more economic in your planning

[night blade]

Thats what I was thinking, I was all ready to roll and didn't see it or apex so I figure its not just there yet lol

[rare verge]

@warped ginkgo the return on hostiles is garbage in the lower systems

[night blade]

stupid time change, quit playing with time. Its made up anyway lol

[proud wing]

It is, only GMT matters

[night blade]

I don't care about international trade and time zones. Time is made up anyway 😄

[warped ginkgo]

Sacrifice 1 entry to finish the event and then 2 other entries for loot 😄 or skip it all together 😅

[supple token]

no update yet but we still have 1d n 23hrs

[rare verge]

@warped ginkgo that would be a waste of my existence 🤔 remember quality not quantity 👊👊

[sharp raft]

Normally I would agree with this, but in this case the research description says "payout/cost", which implies (at least to me) that they are both increased by the amount listed. If not, then this is an extremely deceptive way of describing it. I guess I should expect that from Scopely.

[primal vine]

hm. there should be a gorn evasc weekly BP reward event...

[desert laurel]

Check back in 45m.

[modest sparrow]

Nope. Not for the mirror upgrade event. That event ended 15 mins ago and had the same issue. (see above:
#🏆-event-chat message )

[warped ginkgo]

I rather enjoy that particular event you are complaining about tbh. It's very easy to do 👍

[bold venture]

for some more than others lol

and to be clear, my argument above was aligned with yours. i agree with you haha

[sleek haven]

It’s the other event that will be a pain tonight, the kill one is easy

[desert laurel]

Could be better explained in the research section, but the increases are completely listed in the refinery i button.

[worthy plaza]

wait what?! you're expecting me to DOCK (not loot chest) 97,000 trillium A??!?! That's like...what? 1000 kills?

[faint fractal]

The qty of trellium required is insane

[worthy plaza]

in 24 hours?! on..like 1 entry token per day? in 20 minutes? what the heck is this

[supple token]

oooooops sorry looking at a different event 😵‍💫 but I'll still ping you if we get an update!

[modest sparrow]

Thx. Appreciated 😊

[worthy plaza]

@supple token what the heck is with this SMS, i mean...just what the heck are these numbers @cosmic steeple

[worthy plaza]

what are you trying to say here? my SMS is 972k for the top threshold

[night blade]

You may have to do D and not A 😄

[wintry drum]

Is that why I cannot claim them, just view them?

[velvet phoenix]

What for absolutely dumb event
Great work devs
Would like to say what I think about you but can't do to censorship here

[dreamy patio]

900 vouchers, 500 keys is the limit

[night blade]

You can also steal cargo as well

Mine is super easy, I can get 5k-6k with just the level 40 hostiles with a loot crew

I assume you are a higher op than I am so you can get more per trip than I can

[worthy plaza]

Go try and tell me how well it goes in 1 trip in 20 minutes

[inland wraith]

So much is wrong that that it's not worth typing a response

[night blade]

I could finish mine in one trip

[rigid meteor]

Absolutely stupid, only way of having the mining speed is by, surprise surprise... paying for it!

[worthy plaza]

no you can't

[rare shoal]

The event says docking, so it can be from shooting or mining

[final zenith]

It says to dock it meaning in your ships cargo... This doesn't include loot chests.

[night blade]

^

I'm not counting my battlechest, the 5-6k is just with Pic-E with Data-E and Five

[rare shoal]

What happens when you're mining and the time runs out?

[night blade]

booted

[rare shoal]

I should be more clear, what happens with the mined stuff

Lost in space?

[final zenith]

You keep it

[rigid meteor]

lose it

[night blade]

whatever you have in your cargo comes with you as long as no one snipes your ship

[worthy plaza]

here's the number for you, level 40 hostiles drop 16 trilliumA per kill. at 6700 to dock, that's 418 kills. at 6 seconds each, that's 41 minutes alone

[night blade]

seems you have forgotten about research my boy lol

[rare shoal]

^

[night blade]

I have two nodes in hostile loot

about to have some more here soon

all grinds are slow when you start them, they get easier over time and the more you work on it

[pearl isle]

Seems mirrorverse sms impossible

[night blade]

with that attitude it is

[warped ginkgo]

Are we sure loot chests don't count ? For the slb that needed docking of it , I had 140k points but only remember docking like 5-6k of trel A , maybe if you open the loot chest before you get to station or something, or it was one of those good bugs

[velvet phoenix]

Not possible event points
Need 975k
One run got me 80k
Great event 😂

[dreamy patio]

they don't count, if they did count it would score on the slb

[night blade]

its docked, so you have to bring it in with a ship

[pearl isle]

Will get max 4k on run

Need 900k

[night blade]

I rememeber a war was started over an event with docking

[worthy plaza]

Lol, ok, you go ahead if you think expectations of 400 kill to complete a SMS is a good reasonable benchmark.

[night blade]

well you can keep complaining in discord or work on your events

😄

[sage widget]

Good job, Scopely: you've finally discovered an even more worthless game mechanic than the other boneheaded crap you've done in the past.

[desert laurel]

What level are you?

[warped ginkgo]

I finished half of the event already just afk mining while watching all the complaints 🍿

[night blade]

also, you don't have to complete any events that you don't want to do sooo

[velvet phoenix]

And is even more great
If not finishing this trelium trelium 💩 no chance finishing meta event
Absolutely great job devs
Love your work

[worthy plaza]

ops 53.

[night blade]

https://tenor.com/view/printer-shredder-fax-machine-spam-customer-service-gif-25361577

[warped ginkgo]

Don't worry about meta event, there is a "complete recruit picard sms" , which unless you're a whale, you won't be completing anyways.

[night blade]

There are also higher level hostiles you can hit for more Trellium stuffs . .

[desert laurel]

There are higher level hostiles that drop more cargo. Is the MS you screenshotted from an early G4 player or your event?

[velvet phoenix]

Noooooo 😂😂

[hardy geyser]

@cosmic steeple @supple token Short question: Wasn't there supposed to start the event for the gorn ship today? Or does it start later at the 2nd event reset? (7pm)

[tranquil mason]

How should I handle this? I would have to go in at least 8 times when I dock resources. I would really be interested to know what kind of mathematician thought up such nonsense. Without doing the calculations properly

[warped ginkgo]

I'm kinda glad, saw it and knew it was 1 less thing to worry about completing, I'll still do as much as I can but not worth stressing over 😆

[velvet phoenix]

And to get there you need long time and can't grid less
😂😂

[desert laurel]

Starts in 20m.

[young lake]

I'm L56. My strongest ship is my T1 Sanctus. In Babel, I can get 9075 Trell-A per hull, WITH Cerritos boost. That equals 90,750 points. I need 1,490,000 points to complete the SMS, in the next 24 hours. That's another FIFTEEN trips, which equates to FIVE SOLID HOURS, even if I had the entry vouchers and keys to make that many trips, which I don't.

Who thought that math made sense?

[velvet phoenix]

Hamster 😂😂

[final zenith]

It's mirror math

[dreamy patio]

Was just saying that they employed a different kind of math for the scoring, mirror math is fitting

[worthy plaza]

Its ok, apparently some level 40 people say they can complete theirs so i guess everything is OK!

[dreamy patio]

The concerns about the mining scoring has been raised, we'll see if anything happens.

[sleek haven]

Plus some servers has ROE so those new systems are non pvp, so you couldn’t even pvp to steal what you need to do event

[night blade]

49

[inland wraith]

Yeah the lowbie requirements are tiny compared to anything post 50

[night blade]

You can also hit higher level hostiles for more loot.

[static mica]

Hopefully the thresholds for the gorn bp ship sms event today are more reasonable than the Trailing Trellium event...

[inland wraith]

You don't get more tickets just by virtue of being a higher level

[worthy plaza]

omg really? i never knew. i got to ops 53 killing level 1 hostiles in the starting system this entire time

[night blade]

You better be hitting the higher level ones. There are hostiles that drop both materials

They have been throwing tokens at us because people can’t plan lol

[velvet phoenix]

50+ getting again punished by devs
Why ?
What I have done to deserve this?
Justice for 50+ players now

[night blade]

Suree. They specifically are coming for you mid 50s. Lololol

[velvet phoenix]

How is it working for the overlords?
You getting free stuff ?

[static mica]

It isn't 50+. It's players period...

[final zenith]

With planning and proper crewing it might be possible for those who only did the bare minimum over the last two events...

I would need at minimum 20k per trip to finish.

[twin bear]

Scopely with the jokes for this Trellium docking event . Seriously even with hitting higher hostiles I genuinely can’t see how you’re supposed to achieve those milestones. So I guess there goes my meta event completion as well 😒

[static mica]

really it's just people in the sweet spot(s) High G4...or G3 (pre-new stuff standard mining SMS)

Can we at least get acknowledgement that you hear our cries and are taking them to the teams...?

@supple token @cosmic steeple

[supple token]

The team is already checking the Trailing Trellium - SMS event

[final zenith]

I'm ops 54 and I usually try to save stuff like this for surprises but it's hard to plan when you don't know the scoring metric or the milestones

[velvet phoenix]

They will only put their bot on us telling we play wrong

[supple token]

https://tenor.com/view/what-wait-hold-on-let-me-speak-gif-13499166

[pearl isle]

Scopely guys cant calculate anything anymore. Last arcs bp=oopsie, this arcs bp=oopsie, now this nonsence. Scopely math must be 1+1=1000000

[civic frigate]

its that new math

brought on by the flat earthers that run scopely

[velvet phoenix]

Every day drama
Love this arc 😂

[pearl bluff]

Im currently four ops + shipyard lvls from being able to build the Gorn Eviscerator, but read about the announcement on a new event that rewards blueprints for the Gorn Eviscerator, does anyone know if I would be able to run that event for the blueprints once it starts or do i have to wait until I reach the required ops + shipyard level?

[dreamy patio]

you need to be ops 40

[velvet phoenix]

14 gorn ship bp per week 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[dreamy patio]

They said it was going to be like the nx

[desert laurel]

It's up!

[static mica]

15

[velvet phoenix]

So much to 100 days

No wonder they not wanted say anything 😂

[desert laurel]

Looks pretty close?

[balmy gust]

Why does this not divide evenly into 200 bps

[tulip owl]

I guess this is for only level 40+?

[static mica]

14 weeks * 7 days = 98 days.

[civic frigate]

they want us to suffer

[night blade]

its literally free and you still complain . .

[desert laurel]

I don't know when it starts, but it is an ops 40 loop.

[digital oxide]

100 points for a lv40 gorn kill, 11k top milestone.
Its not that I have rubbish ships to be unable to kill higher but I’ve rubbish officers cos I ain’t rich to be unlocking the epic officers with the iso damage.
This’ll take me a while… 🙈🤣

[inland mulch]

I think someone got the decimal in the wrong place. Will take me 10 runs at best

[balmy gust]

It's a weekly event so it will take 15 weeks

[static mica]

14 weeks * 15 bps = 210 bps

[balmy lance]

soooo 14 bps per week.....takes 14 weeks and some change? Definitely seems like the designer of the event was not a math major

[tulip owl]

Level 39 and it’s not appeared for me - was expecting to earn the bps as I can get the other 40+ special ship (forgotten its name) from territory

[agile ravine]

Uhm from what lvl, do you get access to the Gorn Evicerator blue print event? (says nothing about it, in the official announcement)

[velvet phoenix]

Laughing is not complaining
Sarcasm is not complaining
Why so serious?
You not got enough payment from overlords?

[desert laurel]

It's very much on the low end of the estimated range they gave us, ie. about the same time it takes for the NX.

[balmy gust]

It's 14 bps

[pearl bluff]

do you have the USS Voyager yet?

[balmy gust]

Unless theres a drip somewhere I'm missing

[digital oxide]

I have voyager…

[static mica]

Sorry you are correct.

[velvet phoenix]

How long till it's usable after build?

[desert laurel]

Yeah, I'd move up to 40 to get started on all the content that's gated there... and there's a lot.

[balmy gust]

So it'll take 14 weeks to get 196 bps, meaning players will have to wait an extra week for the last 4 bps. That's cruel behavior.

[balmy lance]

and you will be leftover with 3 bps just floating around for nothing

or complete the event and be leftover with 10

[velvet phoenix]

The 3 months for a ship is now history

[civic frigate]

11bps floating

[desert laurel]

Like the amalgam, those extra are there forever.

[supple token]

But what if it magically appears in the event store?

[desert laurel]

Amalgam's there too, but pretty sure it's in bundles of 5x bps. 😃

[velvet phoenix]

Then it will be extremely costly

[balmy gust]

Depends on what event store. The next one isn't for another 3 months right? lol kinda moot there

[agile ravine]

@supple token from what lvl is the Gorn Evicerator event from? ... diden't say in the last official announcement about it

[dreamy patio]

40+

[agile ravine]

Thank you

[tulip owl]

It’s just strange you can get the Monoveen and all the faction shop BPs before you can build it. This is the odd one out 🙂

[warped ginkgo]

It'll be like 3 months before you get enough bps anyways 😁

[pearl bluff]

i kinda find it disconcerting that you have to wait to be ops 40+ prior to acquire ship bps when you could previously acquire ship bps before you reach the required lvl to build that ship; i.e., USS Cerritos, USS Franklin, Vi'Dar (& Talios), USS Defiant, & Mantis

[desert laurel]

It'll land just in time.

[static mica]

And once you move up to Ops 40, you get hit pretty brutally with the G4 economy for Heroic Recruit SMS which is basically the same from Ops 40-50.

[granite gust]

Hmmm do the milestones on the dock trillium sms seem crazy high? It is not marked as heroic . I would need 3 runs to finish it and There are not enough entrance vouchers to do so.

[worthy plaza]

the NX started day 1 and also gave 50 or so blueprints i thought from battlepass? This started a month later and no bonus blueprints. So considerably longer

[static mica]

They are crazy high. They are looking into it. #🏆-event-chat message

[desert laurel]

I don't remember any bps in the NX battlepass.

[rare shoal]

There weren't

[pearl bluff]

if i recall correctly the last battlepass that contained ship bps as rewards was when the Borg Cube was introduced

[warped ginkgo]

Wait till you hear about nx01, if it wasn't for an xborg pack I bought I'd still be more than 40 days from being able to get bps at ops 45 😆

[desert laurel]

Voy before that had some option to start early on bps or a harry unlock.

[pearl bluff]

but you could grind out the blueprints for the USS Voyager from the USS Voyager Refinery as well

[static mica]

NX01 did get 10bps for free from a code or a mission or an event. Similarly to Monaveen although Monaveen mission you only got if you were 40+ at the time.

[worthy plaza]

There was definitely some bonus NX blueprints, probably from the code then.

[pearl bluff]

that is correct, got my first 10bps that way

[static mica]

right 100 days from launch as opposed to this which is ~136 days from launch

[worthy plaza]

if there was 10 bonus, then 95 days to get NX vs 136 days for this one. that's 43% longer, that's significant

[static mica]

Fair point

[desert laurel]

So now we wait to see if the end of arc event store has evi bps.

[lost storm]

The NX was 100 days from launch, we're already 30 days in, so the Gorn ship would have needed to be 20 BPs per week to keep on that range

[static mica]

even if it does its still not on par with nx01

[pearl bluff]

Gorn Eviscerator had a code from redemption that gave you ship bps, but you had to be ops 40 for the code to work

[worthy plaza]

well this last arc event store still didn't have NX blueprints which was one arc earlier. so...doesn't look like they intend for new ships to show up anymore.

[desert laurel]

NX was 100-200d because a double pull is kinda rough. For casuals, evi might be faster.

[velvet phoenix]

Nope

[worthy plaza]

no bp from code. i am 40+ and had the code but still showing 0/200 blueprints

[worthy plaza]

casuals may not even have the iso officers to even do the gorn loop 😛 , lol

[velvet phoenix]

No bp from code
Over month waiting to start collection
Not close to nx

[warped ginkgo]

I think it would benefit them to be more upfront about the time to obtain f2p, because I think more people would be inclined to skip 136 days for 100$ 😆

[warped ginkgo]

I think that code was the event currency one

[worthy plaza]

yeah it was 24k event store currency i recall?

[pearl bluff]

any idea on when you will be able to source the new snw officers in-game hopefully through the "hull fragments for snw officers" option (mantis refinery)

[warped ginkgo]

It's already in gorn refinery

[static mica]

but those players also probably wouldn't have the crewing/ships then for xindi

[worthy plaza]

anyway, i honestly don't care so much about more and more specialty ships. i don't even have dock space for all the support ships now

there's specialty ship overload nowadays

[pearl bluff]

scrap older & unused ships now

[worthy plaza]

dock space, not hangar space

[velvet phoenix]

Nope , currency was last month code
Nx01 start arc was bp in code

[desert laurel]

Evi's good though, wouldn't skip that. The loop's is good, and the ship will make it smoother.

[warped ginkgo]

I was referring to gorn

[worthy plaza]

Evi's so good that they made its special ability amazing. just look at how useful it is with the new mirror uni spatial rifting! ....oh wait

[desert laurel]

The ability is garbo. The ship kills them very well, and really speeds up the loop.

[civic frigate]

o wait so we are forgetting the 5 free bps that they gave us if u used the promo code

[warped ginkgo]

The prime that allows you to go directly to one of the systems for the same cost of travel, I think that's next arc 😆

[civic frigate]

so 14 weeks will be all it takes if u did that

[worthy plaza]

what 5 free bp's? i used all the free promo codes and my hangar says 0/200 blueprints

[warped ginkgo]

I've used every promo code they've released and I'm at 0/200

[velvet phoenix]

There was never free gorn bp

[desert laurel]

EVISCERATOR was a code that month, but it gave event store currency.

[civic frigate]

then what did they give us for the eviscerator code

[warped ginkgo]

The month the ship came out it was 24k event currency

[civic frigate]

o ok my bad

darn so 15 weeks then grrrr

[warped ginkgo]

There is none in missions?

[desert laurel]

Pray for a 2m arc. 😃

[civic frigate]

u see a gorn mission lol

[warped ginkgo]

Oh idk I didn't do any of them since they autocompleted the sms 😆 less work for me

[desert laurel]

I kinda doubt they'd put the bps in the next one anyway. Maybe you get lucky there though.

[muted hatch]

Given MU Datas ability and we need 2 more rares to round of the set that feels unlikely?

[wintry drum]

well, three trips into Mirror Universe and I havent reached the first milestone yet...

[warped ginkgo]

Don't worry everybody there will definitely be a gamble coin where you could get a full eviscerator 😁😆

[civic frigate]

o just like w/ the nx lol

[desert laurel]

Are you getting pvp'd? if not, you might want to choose a different target.

Can't finish at that rate.

[wintry drum]

No pvp, 1 trip PVE, 1 trip mining A, one mining D

[velvet phoenix]

Of course is all our fault 🤣

[civic frigate]

mining isnt gonna do it

[warped ginkgo]

Just hit those that drop 10k 😄

[muted hatch]

Stop mining, hit hostiles

[desert laurel]

I'd double buff, and maybe aim for ones that drop more loot.

[velvet phoenix]

Buy packs

[wintry drum]

How do i get those exos?

[dreamy patio]

If you can make it there before your buff runs out, heh

[desert laurel]

I don't know the exo details, but they might be bugged.

Double buff = cerri + titan.

[velvet phoenix]

And prey rif not bug and send you home

[desert laurel]

I'd go Janeway Doc Kuron + Paris Hugh, double buff, and hit a hostile before you enter the MU to activate kuron.

[pearl bluff]

Is the "What's Mine is Mine" event a pvp based event with regards to mining materials, resources and the like?

[celest relic]

Cand1e, do you see a lot of value in mPicarc t1 vs T2? Would it be worthwhile to get a f2p treasury when you don’t need the officers just to get mPic T2 from presumably the auctions?

[desert laurel]

Looks like mPic is crazy overpowered for apex barrier. No other source comes close to him.

[celest relic]

You could. It’s a dock event. But mining works fine too

[pearl bluff]

it requires you to dock the materials for those to count though

[stable crow]

it says "dock", so any ore, gas, or crystal looted from other players should count and any mined but lost to others doesn't.

[celest relic]

Correct. You can mine and dock, or you can loot players opc and dock

[pearl bluff]

ok

[desert laurel]

Maybe he's not as useful for you though. I recall you being a couple grades lower than the top of your server. Even a maxed one wouldn't put you in the same competitive ring as those guys. Probably would make you strong against your cohort at least.

[celest relic]

I’ll have t7 pilum and korinar. Will test on both. But I’d want to take down 53s would be my goal

[light jolt]

Found the MU mission in Aletara - are there other missions in MU space?

[dreamy patio]

only 1

[desert laurel]

I'd still go freeman on the korinar, the pilum can do something with mPic if you go for him. Korinar really takes advantage of a strong first round, and someone's gotta use her.

[celest relic]

Thank you Cand1e 🙌

[opal mantle]

Any idea of the frequency of the eviscerator event?

[desert laurel]

Every thursday, forever.

[gloomy zinc]

So this trellium docking event gives Ops 55 the same target as Ops 60 🤣

Impossible

@cosmic steeple can you check the brackets for the trellium event. 1.5 million points is impossible for Ops 55 to achieve.

[civic frigate]

56's on my server are doing it in one run

[gloomy zinc]

Yeah with a G5 rare... 55's don't have this

[waxen charm]

#🏆-event-chat message
They already looking into, typical Scopely, run stuff without checking it 🤣

Did 1 run with my Pilum, 85k points, need 980k 🤣

[velvet phoenix]

The math genius behind this event deserve a bonus and one day as cm here to answer some questions from players 😂

I promise be polite and friendly and not sarcastic 🤞

[balmy verge]

Hopefully not considered a major spoiler re: missions for those yet to do but I think Scopely needs to invest in better antivirus protection for Maia.

She’s been compromised so many times we have a Borg Maia avatar.

Now we have this:

[tawny crest]

The math is out to lunch can’t even get close to finishing even if I hunt players… the second 1 player is killed on our server it will go into lockdown

[balmy verge]

Ask RevDeuce on his server when his upcoming chat w/ arc runner is coming up (this weekend I think) and give him the info you’re looking for. Won’t promise anything as I’m as connected to RevDeuce as I am to Elon Musk, but it can’t hurt.

[velvet phoenix]

I just wanted to know what stuff they smoking
Want it too 😂

[balmy verge]

Well I can connect you with that as much as I easily can pass along Elon’s credit card.

[mint idol]

Can they checking the scoring at the same time? Trillium A doesn’t seem to be counting?

[velvet phoenix]

Then pass over Bezos credit card 😉🤣

[bitter snow]

Did you dock it back at the station? Chests don't count

[mint idol]

Of course and it’s not just me either.

[stable talon]

Didnt we get gorn ship bps from the code im sure i did but im at 14 from the event only

Didnt we get 10 from a code

[plucky vessel]

No we got event store loot

[bitter snow]

Lag? Mine worked fine...

[mint idol]

I don’t think so as I did the run straight after reset. Going to do another and see what happens 🤷‍♂️

[bitter snow]

Definitely didn't die on the way out, made it back with hull etc?

[frigid forge]

Are you for real. The scoring for this sms has a garbage. Needs to be fixed. Unable to finish with out cash

[mint idol]

No it was timed out. I stopped a couple of mins before it was due to time out as hull health was low

[stable talon]

The code was Eviscerator

[faint fractal]

It was officers shards as reward iirc

5 picard shards?

[stable talon]

But no surprise pretty sure was 10 ship bps

[stable talon]

Lol musta imagined it

[narrow walrus]

10 bps was when the NX01 came out

[stable talon]

Were there shards in the store

That many event ships hard to keep up lol

[plucky vessel]

For the enviscerator? no. Today is the first F2P method to begin getting them

[narrow walrus]

Why is the SMS giving 14bps. We going to have bps leftover again? And it's dragging it out a bit. Or have I missed another place to get extra BPs?

[sudden otter]

If they run the gorn event monthly it will take us 15 months to get the ship. Scopely at its finest.

[static mica]

weekly

[tacit radish]

I think it's hilarious that players in the low 40's who are unable to kill gorn ships need to kill tons of gorns in order to obtain bp's for the ship that's supposed to... help them... kill... gorn...

[static mica]

I mean if you can't kill gorn, you probably shouldn't be in the 40's. Because you probably aren't able to kill Silents or Xindi or...either... (Said as an Ops 41 who just leveled to 40+ last arc).

[plucky vessel]

what would you like event to be? swarms? worms?

[tacit radish]

Haha, I'm ops 56 and don't have issues at all

[zealous wyvern]

If players in the 40's even 39 can't kill the gorn, they have other issues with there game then gorn.

[tacit radish]

but I may have an alt that was neglected for months that doesn't have isolytic damage 🤣

[static mica]

Yeah probably shouldn't be 40+ lol

[tacit radish]

🤷‍♂️ it got to the point where I couldn't attack it any longer, so.... 😬

[leaden spoke]

How can we get 18.8 kk points at trellium sms?

[proud wing]

Get 1880 from hostiles?

[sudden otter]

Mirror research to increase mining rate but it will likely cost $$ to dos so in time for the event

[leaden spoke]

Scopley: go to hell....

[proud wing]

Depends on what you have access to

[leaden spoke]

Ops62....

[proud wing]

Ohh i misread the amount

[static mica]

I think he means million...

[proud wing]

Yea

[leaden spoke]

3 turns and i have 15% of goal

[proud wing]

The higher ops numbers are a tad high

[vague plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-dollars-haha-money-gif-16679435

[proud wing]

If you’d like to cry, at Ops 47, i need 66.78k, i get about 3k in 1 run…

I think someone got the scaling wrong

[plucky vessel]

Ops 62, I completed todays event in two runs in barklay with loot crew.

[proud wing]

Or knows something players don’t

[smoky cosmos]

Use speed crew on mirror hostiles lvl 40 easy peasy

[leaden spoke]

So it is the same... maybe should pay experts and not monkeys to develop the game

[proud wing]

Seems like it requires the right, not necessarily obvious, choices

[smoky cosmos]

So riker e cap una and 5 of 11 below doctor cargo in 20 min 66k

[static mica]

Ops 47 lol...ops 41 ...I need 63.58K. I get about 1.8K/run so 18k points/run (and I'm 2nd in my bracket for docked Trellium SLB).

[proud wing]

Once again, i have it good lol

[slate lotus]

@cosmic steeple is there a syndicate event scheduled in the near future? I didn't see any on the calendar.

[naive meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/llhlg-fact-check-fake-news-math-problem-wrong-answer-gif-19450048

[cosmic steeple]

Don't think I've seen one...

[crisp umbra]

Well done Scope

Hunt Gorn to get Gorn Ship.
That Ship is most impirtant for ppls who cant kill Gorn with regular Ships 🫣🤦‍♂️

[fiery folio]

How does updating how scoring works help for those that have already tried to complete it?

[crisp umbra]

nothing. you have to do again

[fiery folio]

And if you have no more entance abilities?

[crisp umbra]

they roll out a free run in gift section

[fiery folio]

Bad code to a bad fix....

[crisp umbra]

Tipycal

[last tendon]

Event let me enter mirror space, let me use tokens to get to second system and then sent me home. I didn’t die and I didn’t time out, happened 3 times and I mined nothing and killed no hostiles after first run, but it took my tokens. Whole system is too bugged to do event

[clever wasp]

@cosmic steeple I see the event scoring has been updated and vouchers were sent out. However, for those who have started and yet to complete, the original points scored is still the same. Is that going to be addressed or have we closed this item

[cosmic steeple]

I thought I heard that scores would adjust... lemme check.

[clever wasp]

Ty

[tacit zenith]

the scoring seems to be the same as before - 10 / trellium A

[versed osprey]

1500 4500 for me

[clever wasp]

Clear localization and restart

[tough scaffold]

Scopes, are you going to reward some of our life back after messing up the event rewards?
Devs, dont you check first before releasing events jees

[tacit zenith]

ah, thanks! I had restarted it and didn't see a change. Clearing localisation worked

[balmy peak]

Great. Thanks Scopely. You sent me the extra jump token, but when I tried to take my ship deeper into to Mirror space, it just jumped home! Absolutely USELESS😡😡😡😡 No so are jumps because I’d been mining at the impossible levels before you changed the scoring…

Setting a new level of event broken-ness…

[shrewd knot]

@cosmic steeple 14 weeks is really long. And the ceretos at least gave RSS with it. This is just lame. Shorter or add more to it please.

[sage mango]

Evi upgrade parts would be nice, what am I gonna do with two gorn ships? Grind the event twice as fast?

[waxen charm]

Quick one, the SMS for docking Trellium has changed, is the SLB changing to match?

[cosmic steeple]

Fix is coming today or early tomorrow and if you ping support they should be able to replace the resources.

[shrewd drum]

NX01 = 200 BPs = 1 BP per day = 200 days. 200 days divided by 7 = 28,5714285714 weeks. If someone take 2 BPs per day, it looks like about 14 weeks also.
What's the point with this time to get the ship for free. The NX took me that time and i have it now.

[shrewd knot]

It's more time creep, if it's not called out it'll just get worse and worse. Next free ship will be 25 week then 50 then it's a token "it's free" but I likely to actually happen. Defending a bad schedule with a previous bad schedule doesn't make sense to me.

On top of they are more and more not putting ships in the stores, so you can't speed that up either

It's death by a thousand cuts until there is nothing left. And unless things are called out it'll end up a failure.

[cosmic steeple]

DM'd ya.

[opal mantle]

Didn’t see anything listed in the event information tab but any word about an artifact event?

[elder gyro]

wow just got on for the new arc you guys are some greedy people had to buy a 20 pack just to do the daily event wow

just wow

[velvet phoenix]

Why not collected the free stuff

[elder gyro]

did but its still a combat zone

[velvet phoenix]

Ah now I understand

[bold venture]

You didnt have to do anything. You could've spent that $20. You could've just not. If you feel that much animosity on the subject and it's creators, just don't lol

[elder gyro]

nah man a f2p game should have just that

i have never seen a company as greedy as scopley even walmart isnt this bad lol

[bold venture]

It is classified as a f2p game, and you are welcome to play for free. You don't have to. You can spend money, not be a free player, and get more. That's a choice. Even logging on at all was a choice lol

[velvet phoenix]

Stfc f2p is a myth like unicorns and tooth fairy

[bold venture]

It really can be free if you choose to let it be. It's all a choice 😉

[velvet phoenix]

So poetic
All depends on what server you are
On our we not hit in token systems so mu is not so annoying
But on some server if you getting smashed in mu and can't do sms what let you to miss meta event you exactly where scopley want you to be
See he buy pack because of scopley FOMO
Its all part of the plan

[sage mango]

tooth fairy has a better chance to actually reward you

[velvet phoenix]

After we many many times said out loud no full server pvp we got token system pvp and that every day now 😂

[sage mango]

I mean TC is pvp 24/7 but we've ignored that plenty

Mirror is just TC with pve fun

[velvet phoenix]

I love hunting opc and do it every day
Hate mining
But go mu and screw someones sms and probably whole evening by smashing for opc in token systems
I find it un fair and unnecessary
Some like it maybe

[covert frigate]

Trillium SMS is not scoring for me by killing hostiles.. what am I doing wrong?

[static wigeon]

Have to dock home safely

ie without dying to player or hostile

[velvet phoenix]

You not killing the transport do you?

[covert frigate]

Made that mistake too 😸 ! Thanks Both!

[spare root]

Does anyone have the link to the mirror universe google drive document?

[shrewd drum]

If someone wants something immediately and for free – breathe.

[humble socket]

You can't make me breathe

[jolly sun]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xc4yJEjHd2PsO1ykhkLkcXvEn2FJ8BvDR2rlyt0TFJQ/edit?usp=sharing

Use this it’s really good 👍🏻

[heady mica]

What is good to pull in store for liquid trellium d store? The rift keys?

[hollow yacht]

@cosmic steeple @supple token why do I have the Gorn eviscerator event when I bought the ship last month? There's no reason to have more than one is there?

[desert laurel]

Some will want multiple ships, for a faster loop grind. But feel free to ignore the event, there's no harm in skipping it every week.

[jolly sun]

Extra mirror dust, I’ve got keys coming out the wazoo now 😆🖖🏻

[heady mica]

Thx for suggestion

[jolly sun]

Also use the uncommon trade down function to boost the early research tiers - but be warned boosting refinery can hurt if you can farm it well yet 🖖🏻

[ornate geyser]

You can paint them different colors.

[supple token]

https://tenor.com/view/off-work-work-working-paint-painting-gif-13957980

[rare shoal]

The timing on these events are so horrible, research event whilst everyone probably spend their dust for the docking trellium event for mining

[outer chasm]

I'm not sure why they thought intoducing a system where, you have to grind for 20m only to get killed and lose everything because someone with a 1B ship doesnt want to grind, was a good idea. Was the feedback from the wholesale slaughter arc two arcs ago not enough to tell you players are not asking for this?

[dawn frost]

Now, judging by the fact that every single MU hostile dropping a chest, has the daily PVE chests limit remained limited?

[rare shoal]

Expect that answer to be yes

I find it ridiculous there is one in the first place

[wet agate]

How many tickets are there given out in each ticket event?

[hardy geyser]

if you pull the free tickets on time, you can get 40 tickets each weekend

[wet agate]

So you have to save up 1 week to get the rares on another week

[dawn frost]

<@&509691205798592532> , you guys able to push forsome lifting or adjustment to this? It is getting in the way some day.

[supple token]

We can do that

[brazen crane]

Will there be another event in which you can spend special objects on buildings?

[warped ginkgo]

Technically 2 weeks the first time , on the 3rd week you can get the rare and have an extra 3 tickets

[proud wing]

Technically starships don’t fly, they’re just pushed through the void

And those that land on planets are doing controlled crashing

[pearl isle]

Good many used the dust for research to atleast try and make yesterdays event before it got fixed, now out of dust 🤣

[velvet phoenix]

It's called scoplayed 😂
Had to down trade dust to do it
Waste of dust

[native cave]

What ship do you use to mine in MU for the D mats?

[proud wing]

Your best, but without research don’t bother

Best miner, just in case you decide to send a combat ship

[pearl bluff]

is there a reason that the domination events do not include ship xp or officer xp expenditure now in all non-battlepass related events?

[velvet phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-kardashian-money-cash-make-it-rain-make-that-money-gif-6509116106792146073

[civic frigate]

🤔

[cursive heart]

Do we know what the rare tickets events will reward on Monday?

[desert laurel]

There are two relevant limits noted in your question, but they should not impact players: a daily kill limit, and a loot chest one.

The 2k daily kill limit is very difficult to reach, and only those wasting kills via autogrinding will regularly hit it.
The loot chest limit is 1k, after which your oldest chest is squeezed out to make room for the new one. You can completely avoid this limit by opening chests.

[celest relic]

Nope. But I would assume it’s galactic token and mats and res. We’ll see Monday

[velvet phoenix]

Not if you parking all your ships overnight in Rouge space for autoexp
Then little dailies maybe some borg runs and boom 2k

[neat plover]

How do you get uncommon Rift keys? Is the only way the liquid refinery?

[celest relic]

If you use rogue space to auto grind, leave them on a mining node. They gain xp, loot drops, but do NOT gain cargo loot or count toward the daily hostile limit

[pearl bluff]

augment space is the last location that i can autogrind hostiles now

[velvet phoenix]

Nice
Thx for that tip didn't know it 🍻🍻

[harsh iron]

Will there be another event with a store where I can get North Star blueprints?

[civic frigate]

texas class

[mental tulip]

At the end of every arc is an event store. 2-3 times a year, it's a "good" event store that would include all the ship BPs.

[harsh iron]

The gorn one where everything was giving keystones started right when I started so North Star wasn't available to me until near the end. I did get Hoshi Sato and other things before I could get NS. I got 70 then they stopped the keystone events. Just needed one more day...

[pearl bluff]

completely off-topic query, but are the recruit officer (new arc officer) events bracketed by player level or are they just based on $$$ spent towards materials to be used during that event?

[raw owl]

Bracketed by operations level.

[pearl bluff]

thanks for the info

[mental marsh]

Which Milestone should we be on today im on 7

[proud wing]

sounds about right

[mental marsh]

Cheers

[manic lion]

Makes no difference as the evens are exceptionally meh this arc

[quasi mountain]

I am feeling a HUGE lack of content this arc. Waaaay to much quality going on here. Where’s the mirror ships at like come on already.

[ornate geyser]

This is what 55 looks like as f2p…

Sitting on 50T in RSS with another 25T in tokens.
And 11M lat.
Tally is maxed, Vger & Moana are super strong, Küb is stalled because of faction ship lock, so I don’t have ship upgrades to spend on.
Research is down to the dregs…5% shield buff isn’t even a rounding error at this level, lol…so not a lot of research to spend on.
I need Shipyard 56 to build the next ship and give me something to upgrade. But I’ve been stalled on the rare mats wall for months, and there is no end in sight, it’s going to be at least another 3 months , maybe 6, to get past that.

Then I’ll be blocked by the rare mats wall to get the 56 ship to T6 so I can unstuck my Küb. That’ll be another 3-6 months.

None of the new or recent content does anything to move me forward, because literally the only thing that can move me forward is refined mats. Lots and lots of refined mats.

The game is at a complete standstill for me. 🤷‍♂️

[narrow violet]

Liquid refinery yes and the trade down refinery

[dawn frost]

Thing is, the 2k limit is actually not difficult to meet, given all the pve related events and the big milestones to complete all. Multiple in alliance actually wasted entry tokens due to the 2k limit.

[jolly sun]

I’d love to see it raise also, but if we asked your team m8s would they have also spent time that day auto grinding?

[manic lion]

The only way to be hitting that wall is by doing way to much stuff in game, I'm ops 49 and ftp and have never come close to hitting the hostile limit, or having to many ships autogrinding which scopley don't want people doing.

[coral niche]

Whenever I need to grind a lot, I make sure to have max 1 ship on autogrind. Past Ops49 ships will need more and more XP which you can’t solve with lat as F2P.

[opal galleon]

@cosmic steeple no rare gas in the gorn hunter slb ?

[tulip ether]

clarification... aside from refinery payout every 3 days

there is no other way to get entry tokens to the MU?

[dreamy patio]

that's it

• the daily freebies that will go away

[tulip ether]

yeah, just noticed that disappearing hence the question

[empty dune]

I was at the same spot 3 months ago.... and now I'm 56 with a t5 Sompek since rare ore was what was holding me back, so the gas stockpiled... I actually built a g4 Ent to give me something to do since I stopped my g5 uncommons at t4 to conserve mats....

Honestly, I had a few times that I just said "F it" and stay 55 and/or give up and change games... I just shifted gears and did the ent and other loops that I ignored forever...

The pay wall at 55 is probably the worst one you will find... I've talked to some of the 59s and 60s and they said that the 56 was worse than getting to 60...

[floral pike]

Syndicate event is 564k points first tier now?

[grand eagle]

Syndicate wtf

[ornate delta]

1 million syndicate xp needed to complete??? Thats insane

[placid mortar]

lol to max syndicate event for a 59 is 1,128,000 XP. Someone can’t do math.

[floral pike]

I can only hope someone messed up with maths again lol

[red cedar]

I'd also like to know where from we're supposed to get 112 800 k sindicate xp in 2 days? Previous Sindicate advancment - you could at least do the 1 st milestone with the stuff in game. Don't see were from our XP input got raised 5 times.

[solar nacelle]

Man I'd be half way to Syndicate 35 just to get tier 1, probably 36 or 37 if I couold get the max tier

[placid mortar]

So they want you to buy the special pack. It’s 441K syndicate at level 59

[icy panther]

Smh:

[placid mortar]

Spend $300 to complete the event. Didn’t even bother to label it heroic.

[solar nacelle]

I'm finding it would be $1200 to complete it without figuring out what the multiphasic gets

[desert laurel]

Quantum events are the new difficult tier ones. They should be considered heroic.

[shrewd knot]

their is a new pack, it's a paltry $300 for a MOBILE GAME

lol

[solar nacelle]

Hadn't seen that pack

[shrewd knot]

it's gross I didn't either till someone else said it.

inflation in the has outpaced the real world it seems

[floral pike]

With all respect ... Difficult is one thing ... This is something else ...

[red cedar]

Wallet-roic

[desert laurel]

It's just a tier, there are quantum events doable f2p. But I see now that some will also require multipacks.

[shrewd knot]

they have gone beyond heroic and prime. quantum is extra heroic now

[astral mirage]

564k for first rung of Syndicate Advancement is taking the proverbial Scopely, nothing heroic about that

[red cedar]

Difficulty level: Gold MasterCard

[floral pike]

Just another event to be ignored ... That's how the engagement increases 🙂

[radiant flame]

When we asked to get rid of too many heroic events we didn't mean to change the name of it...

[red cedar]

Star Trek: MasterCard Command

[floral pike]

So the heroic events now are supposed to be played by 50 people across all servers and the rest just ignore them? That does not sound very smart ...

[hearty monolith]

Well they should at least list the events correctly cause dockage mileage slb rank 1-3 wasnt even listed in the Quantum mirror universe sms as counting and it did

[normal osprey]

They made a special pack with almost 4× the amount of syn rep in it. Hence the insanely high milestones...
Pay to play event.

[robust hollow]

Synd event = 💩 fail Scopely overlords

[deep hedge]

Hey folks, I make a modified event calendar each month for our server, some folks find it a bit easier to read/follow than others, please feel free to share with your respective alliances/discords

[boreal elk]

<@&509690795536941056> , i was just commenting that the rewards of the synd event are low. A lot more of those rewards are needed for one single research.
But if you tell us that's normal, yesterday I was offering my player ID to take common keyst as donation from me, They're useless and some events only give those.

Today you'll get my player ID, in an account deletion email. I'll go play any game out there that actually gives rewards.

[warped ginkgo]

Anybody got 1,120,000 syndicate xp I can borrow to get that premium dust 👀

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[boreal elk]

Is it enough dust for a single research?

[normal osprey]

Yes if you do the whole thing.

[warped ginkgo]

One of the first ones, the 2nd one is 1125

[boreal elk]

But that's one research out of 211 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[normal osprey]

Yup and I don't think spending $300 on 1 level of research is really a good selling point.

[warped ginkgo]

I don't think it's worth it either , however 450k syn xp for the same price they used to sell us 150k is not bad 😅

[grand eagle]

I can pull 50k max in the next 2 days lol

[normal osprey]

My normal syn rep pack only has 112k in its so the new pack is 4× more rep for the same price.

[mortal bronze]

thanks scopely for designing the syndicate event to be exclusively pay2win... 🤮

[random bough]

Might as well have labeled that syn event SUPER HEROIC.

Will the INEPT decisions ever end?

[warped ginkgo]

I think that's what the quantum part is supposed to mean 😆

[pallid charm]

Totally crazy milestones...

after battlepass claime,
Daily syndi
free syndi from artifacts
paid xp from s31 faction store
and maxxed mantis pulls.

not even close.

[warped ginkgo]

I wouldn't attempt to get to first MS f2p, this one is different ,it isn't the normal difficulty

[frigid cave]

free syndi from artifacts ??

[pallid charm]

1200, not much.

[boreal elk]

You won, scopely

[modern topaz]

don't get your hopes up to high they still have to verify your identity and it would not be the first time they fail on even that

[spring imp]

Is this an error? Just Xindi Rare?

[plucky ermine]

I don't even see this event?

[spring imp]

Ops 50

[static mica]

that's annoying...

[plucky ermine]

I'm ops 56

[plucky ermine]

<@&509690795536941056> how do I make this event appear? Thx

[static mica]

Do you both have NX01?

[plucky ermine]

Yes I have the NX01

[desert laurel]

It's an event for max syndicate players.

[rare verge]

Where’s the lvl 60 lost hostiles?

Or any high lvl ones?

[ripe jungle]

Sivis is one of the lvl 60 systems. The high level systems are in the same place as all the others basically, just look at the levels.

[inland hamlet]

Not content with increasing syndicate xp milestones in previous month, this month they decided to increase them by an extra 5x

[spiral folio]

I'm level 42. My Voyager can reach only level 40 lost hostiles. I need to be level 51 to be able to upgrade my Voyager's warp engine. To complete the Lostiles SMS event I need to destroy 149 level 40 lost hostiles. And in the same time I have other events to complete too. Come on Scopely....

[desert laurel]

Seems low. Do you have a ship with more warp range?

[static mica]

Either you haven't done your voyager warp range research or you are trying to kill hirogen elites instead of just the lost hostiles. Throw on pmc and hit explorers or pmt and hit interceptors in the space before you get to the hirogen elites (where Unc formadas are/systems around Eviloy).

[spiral folio]

You are correct. I mixed up hirogen elites with lost hostiles

[smoky cosmos]

Pffff how is it possible in 1 sec I have to get to another system it happens now twice what a peeeeeep event en timers

[dapper merlin]

Here there is only quantity and quality is absolutely overrated 🤣

[dawn frost]

Why is Syndicate event always not in the event roster?

[grand eagle]

to surprise people and encourage spending

[dreamy patio]

It almost never is, gotta spurr those fomo purchases

[grand eagle]

they used to be in the calendar

[pearl bluff]

Can the Rare Event Tickets from the Service Commendation: Excellence in Duty - SMS event be stockpiled so that you could run all 3 Rare Ticketed Events?

[static mica]

yes

[pearl bluff]

sweet, will probably skip this commentation event and the next one as I need to restock my tickets for the next time i run all 9 ticketed events

[vagrant pumice]

112,800 syndicate xp in 2 days? Are they huffing fumes over at scopely?

[wide sonnet]

You can always buy their new 451k synd exp pack

[ornate geyser]

I’ve just chilled out in gameplay. Spend a whole lot less time in game these days. It’s basically like a short meditation now, lol…blank my mind, tap red triangles for 10 minutes, close the app and get on with my day…

It is what it is! 😊

[harsh warren]

Ops 55 is miserable. Cannot get the rare mats you need to move up. Cannot get any new officers due to being in the L51-70 death bracket. In the past I wondered how G5 could just leave the game…. I understand why - boredom and frustration.

[manic lion]

And that's also why there's less 49s going into the g5 economy as its not worth the hassle.

[distant imp]

Why is the syndicate eveny so impossible for anyone but whales to complete the first milestone of 564k points is a joke, this really needs to be reduced so people can actually get to the first milestone without having to spend.

[manic lion]

Because it's part of there new pay to participate event not the current pay to win ones

[distant imp]

That seems more like there whole game now. You pay to participate as if you don't pay you don't get anywhere.

[manic lion]

Yep and as a ftp ops 49 player I've been spending a lot less time in game and relaxing

[shrewd knot]

The syndicate aside, the recruit SMS is bs with the increase every month. When is enough enough? @cosmic steeple

[mental tulip]

It goes up every month because the average material payout (across all sources) goes up every arc a little. DJz goes over it from time-to-time on the podcast as "material inflation".

[manic lion]

It goes up in the packs but not for the ftp

[mental tulip]

Right. "Heroic" means $tore. Always has.

All this really says is things that are meant to be rewards for spending should be in an event folder/section by themselves to ease the confusion and reduce the F2P expectations @cosmic steeple

[grand eagle]

10% more in the ticket events doesn't translate to needing 10% more to score

The refinery and daily events don't provide more

I've been playing for a long time and things are getting more ridiculous every single month since g6 opened

The only increase in quality is in the satisfaction of bonuses received from whales with poor impulse control

F2p used to be able to scrape and grind their way up to be competitive if they were smart. Now everything is paywalled

[mental tulip]

I used to be one of those, up until the 40s. I'm well aware.

After G4, everything changes.

[grand eagle]

I'm one of the top f2p in the whole game and I'm just about ready to quit. I have more fun playing 30 year old games on MAME

[manic lion]

For a mobile game this is using over 16gb of storage now which is obsurd in its own right. <@&509690795536941056>

[mental tulip]

So, you gonna take your money and run? (Sorry, couldn't help it 🤣 )

Honestly, while the events want money (more and more) there's nothing pressing us to spend. Those of us that do, do it because we want the new thing now. But that new thing is often broken and it takes weeks to sort it out so folks who want to wait are often better for it.

Sure, they don't get all the event rewards, and that can suck, but at least it's working and figured out by the time it rolls around to F2P.

Sometimes I feel like a paid beta tester, but the money is going the wrong way. 🤣

[ashen wharf]

until they merge you and you get beaten to a pulp and have no reason to deal with that

they are buffing those that pay so that they can beat down any non payers once all the servers are low pop

and server costs are down retaining those that are paying

all the buffs this year and iso is all made to make whales take no damage at all theres no point in pvp

[plucky ermine]

funny that the armada substitution event isn't nearly as heroic as the syndicate event 😐 (I know players have spent a lot to max syndicate)

[grand eagle]

I'm just one person, but there are many like me. And like someone else already said, it's all fun and games until you get merged

[mental tulip]

Been merged three times. 🤷‍♂️

[grand eagle]

So it sounds like you know exactly what happens when people get sick of the direction of the game and quit. It's almost as if things are better for all when you're not driving people away

[manic parrot]

<@&509690795536941056> Events have become ridiculous. Half of the events are pay to even participate, let alone compete. And the leaderboard events are skewed to only the top spenders. I’m no free to play, but my lvl58 being lumped in with lvl70 players is laughable. how does this incentivize me to participate in the SLBs? When a G6 player can upgrade 1 building and outscore my 8 buildings and 5 ship modules??? I'm out! OUT. not another nickel from me. Greed atop of greed.

[ornate geyser]

So much of the pay stuff is just a self-referential circle. If I can’t move up in ops because I’m at a mats paywall and can already kill everything I need to kill…the new stuff doesn’t add anything to my game. There’s no urgency at all to acquire the ships or researches that just make me more OP against the things I’m already killing.

I feel sorry for OCD/collectors (which I am not, lol)…arcfall must be a special form of hell, lol not-lol…

[crisp forge]

Is there a fleet commander event coming up <@&509691205798592532> ?
Cheers

[sage mango]

Yall know hoarding and waiting for small rewards for an event. Won't be worth all that time not just upgrading. Especially for Sloan, he's too good to just sit on and wait.

Why..so you can complete with the 50 other folks who hoarded?

[proud wing]

so it feels better value

[versed stirrup]

Says the hoarder himself who wanna get rid of the competition 😂

[sage mango]

nah, I learned along time ago when the fleet commander events were several months apart.. now we're going 6 months+ Sloan was too good to wait. Also the other issue is most of the whales are already maxed. Scopes counts on the whales for the events, so unless they release a new fleet commander. There's not going to be an event.

Ya'll can hold out for your 400 FT currency though. Maybe even some 1k syndicate rep

[desert laurel]

Most will fail to get anything meaningful in the SLB, when/if it runs anyway. The longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced hoarding for this event is a bad idea when there's a lot of benefit to be had by just ignoring.

[serene helm]

🤣

[warped ginkgo]

Now everyone can reach that first milestone 😆

[ashen wharf]

“stop hoarding guys buy packs”

[nocturne cave]

synd packs where behind in sales. so they forcing it now

[grizzled mulch]

Not forcing, but they’re definitely “strongly encouraging.” 😄

[desert laurel]

Including Ghrush and warp research? @harsh warren

[fiery meteor]

Got 2 times ported back to base when using a portal in mirroruniverse on the way to mirror beta penthe … is this happening to anyone else?

[desert laurel]

File a ticket with CS. They're working that issue. #👽-how-to-contact-support

[fiery meteor]

Ok thx … did already, but then I skip that grind for today

[thorn swan]

How should anyone complete or even get to Stage 1 of the Syndicate event???

[dreamy patio]

you can't without buying a pack, or using a lot of metaphasics

[thorn swan]

even when i use all the syndicate sources and the borg event, i only have half the points for level 1

[native jasper]

I was holding onto all of my BP milestones and such, so as soon as I saw the event I went "AWRITE!" and popped them. Then I saw the milestone score and decided I was done holding onto stuff for this BS.

[lean stone]

It's all about creating frustration to force spending predicated on your addiction and frustration of not being able to complete. They must have spent some more money on a new psych study to inflate sales

[serene helm]

Yes but wonder what percentage do actually fall for that probably very low percentage

[lean stone]

More than you would believe

[waxen charm]

Do we know if there is an event coming soon for buildings like the Artifact Gallery, Court of Q, etc?

[dreamy patio]

they never announce them

and they like to throw them in occasionally

such a shame they can't have the same thought about FC events

[solid badger]

😂😂😂🤣🤣 so $100 gets you enough syndicate rep to get to milestone 2. And maxing out all your daily claims and doing the oh my data event won’t even get you to the 3rd milestone. If you guys can’t figure the math for F2P to at least get to milestone 1 take the flipping syndicate event out and just add those rewards to the store purchase.

With the $100 pack you get 2,256,000 points

[waxen charm]

Thats why you can buy 3 of them 🤣

[meager lily]

Listen I understand what you are all saying

But say you are spending a few hundred bucks a day

Ok and then you see all the competitions for people who don't spend money

And nothing for you

They could make it at lest possible to get 1 reward or bottom 2

You get annoyed in a hurry if they leave out spender competitions

Plus guys are spending money on g5 and g6 packs

It gives them incentive to buy syndicate too

They have to make sure they are including everyone

You can say it's a money grab

But they will say the dynamics of the event algorithm are to make events inclusive for all players while trying to be diverse and include competitions to include items players have been neglecting, which they do

If you ignore something normal in a week or two they have an event to make you pick the pace up. Or at least that's what I seen

[drifting silo]

Those of us with limited income, play as free to play. I am taking Care of a daughter with cancer. I used to get the syndicate first level with my dailies plus battle pass. The epic/syndicatebevents are set up to exclude me and others who can't afford much on the game. All of my income is going to support my daughter. The game used to be fun with events I could complete. This direction is going to drive away players and cause a reduction in new players. You need to re thinks this direction the game has been going downhill as far as enjoyable and rewards for those of us spend occasionally. I can't afford $100 Packs. And I am a long time player.

[solid badger]

Please clarify? Reads like your defending the event and saying Payers would be upset cuss F2P could get the 1st milestone and not spend a dime.
It used to be that way. Where not even claiming the BP nor spending $20 on elite BP. Just max collecting on daily reward.

[harsh warren]

G3 gets no new content. G5 is in the death bracket 51-70 so no slbs for them. F2P gets nothing. Who is left? G6 and G4? Way to alienate a bunch of your players. Gj Scopley! Making everyone happy…. 👎👎👎

[hexed kettle]

G4 really is dreamland. Maybe we have it wrong, and its not g3 and g5 that have problems that need to be fixed. Maybe its g4 that needs to be destroyed too! 😆 Would certainly be easier...

[ornate geyser]

They’ve fairly conclusively proven that they don’t actual,y have to do that, lol…

[heady mica]

Aren’t they going to fix the scoring on this? Inflation?

[warped ginkgo]

No plz I like g4 😩

[languid nova]

just keep saving those special mats, they dont give much extra power onto my ships. as long as my ships are good enough with dailies and some combat slbs im fine on saving mats

[desert laurel]

There are valuable breakpoints to get if you can reach them. For example, Q's court will unlock a higher grade of trials, and the artifact gallery can open up remnant levels. Other than that, hoarding can make sense.

[wraith gate]

im ops 39 and my double data is 2 mil points max. another alliance member ops 39 is 21 mill why such a big difference

[warped ginkgo]

Sometimes they are based off vidar/talios tier

[wraith gate]

what kvk of borg probs could a 3 mil talios kill to get the event done

[desert laurel]

Look at the scoring card to see what level makes the most sense for you.

[wraith gate]

for me mne is tier 1 so i just killed the lvl 33s but he has to try and kill the lvl 38s thats 57mil power with a 3 mil talios

[warped ginkgo]

One of our ops 38 has a 3m talios and was killing the 38s with epicard, edata, snw uhura

[normal osprey]

I've been killing the 96mill probes with a 5mill Talios.

[proven pendant]

17mil Talios maxed event with level 46s (130mil) on 1 token 800+mil final milestone

[wraith gate]

nice ty

[tough scaffold]

Devs, any news on re-banding SLBs for lvl 51s and above?
Lvl 52 player here currently getting wiped out by lvl 69s.
The economy of this game is totally messed up.

[covert spruce]

The economy isn’t the only thing that’s messed up - the syndicate event is a great example of that

[hard oxide]

I've seen the argument around here over the weekend that this is a new 'event-level' (Quantum), but there are currently 3 'Quantum' events active

1. The mirror Universe I SMS - which is free to participate and get some milestones, you will like need to spend quite heavily to actually complete as you need to place in top 3 on one of the Picard recruit events
2. Terran Technocracy - Which is the standard 'buy prime' get a bonus reward event
3. The Syndicate event - this is purely pay to participate you cannot even get remotely close to first milestone without spending.

There doesn't appear to be a standard with the new event type so I'm not sure that argument holds any merit at this stage

[tough scaffold]

It doesn't matter how much the Devs are questioned, they go quiet or do not answer.
They do not answer because they tow the line of their bosses, and that is to squeeze every bit of money from their players under the guise of "We hear and understand your issues".
Nothing is done, the grind is unbelievable now, so most choose not to bother with half of it.
The P2P events are disgusting, but more fool the people who waste hard earned money on pixels, just to line the pockets of the developers and the owners.

[hard oxide]

its all relative though, if you enjoy the game and have the disposable income to warrant the spend that is their choice. 🤷 where it becomes murky is some of the predatory tactics that all game companies use to trap people who cant necessarily afford it

[twilit kiln]

yep the syndicate event is so ridiculous.. I didn't even bother with it

[hard oxide]

I got myself conned on that event 🤣 didnt look at the milestones properly so spent all my hoarded multiphasics (which would have got 2nd milestone the last couple of months) I'm going to end up just short of first milestone 🥳 go me

[boreal elk]

I got a Q's hostile in Mirror Hoeven...
Any workaround?

[narrow violet]

Move station away from MU

it’s always 2 systems away Q trial hostile appears

Q has no boundaries

[sleek stream]

Wtf, I used to be able to get the first level of the Syndicate XP event for free from just playing the game. This time Im barely half way to the first level unlock....

[narrow violet]

Yep it used to be spend 15K xp you hit first milestone then it jumped higher and higher and higher. Now it’s so high it’s ridiculous even for a P2W player. Need 100K for 1st milestone and 582K xp to complete all milestones 😂

[static wigeon]

Silly thing is that most of the players who would spend that much don't have the event cos they already maxed Syndicate

[proud wing]

Can only hopes so, poor metrics might matter…

[stable crow]

they introduced a new event type.
standard: can be completed by any player.
heroic: f2p players can earn some rewards, but completing often requires spending.
quantum: requires spending to score, requires spending a lot to complete.

unfortunately this was not communicated correctly, making quantum look as if it was just events themed for the current arc.

[brittle oriole]

they made important additional changes

• heroic Syndicate: requires spending even for the first milestone
• Recruiting SMS Milestones get harder month by month
• Recruting SLB is OPS 51 (G5) against up to OPS 69 (G5)

unfortunately Scopeley doesn't give a 💩 for months already and it keeps on getting worse.

[hard oxide]

^ this is not true though. The mirror Universe I is a 'quantum event' and you can score and reach milestones without spending

[worldly dune]

Add a "Transphasic" Event.

[quaint heron]

Gratz to the devs on making syndicate event completely irrelevant!

[covert spruce]

They should have made a new syndicate event instead of changing an existing one that had existing and established expectations around completion and the rewards you get with it

I understand they want to push the new pack, but there’s no need to make it fully pay to play and irritate a large portion of the playerbase

The message it clearly send is that they only care about those that are willing to spend £99.99 on a pack and anything else doesn’t matter

[patent flume]

No pay to play player is going to buy 582K syn xp just to do this one event 😂

It's a big pack! But not enough to complete event 💯, also for some not even enough to advance 1 syn lvl. 🤔At least their offering it to any ops this SS from my pure ops 14 ACC 😂

Same time their offering this 🤣 do they not understand how value of an item works? It's like they make it up each time

How they think this price,🤔 for the most extremely easiest officers to obtain

[narrow violet]

🤣 not even worth the electricity it costs to view those pixels

[quasi token]

Don’t we usually get 100 rare tickets?

[keen mist]

No

[desert laurel]

A lot seem to be under the assumption that quantum events are just name-changed heroics that replace the latter. I haven't seen information that states quantum events will prevent heroic events from running in the future. If you have, I'm interested.

Their design is heroic-like in that some events are f2p, some require spending to finish, and some require spending to score. They will also reward new premium mu tree currency and will continue to run in the future as the only source for that. In terms of value, some have suggested currency isn't worth as much as officer shards in a Hsynd vs Qsynd event matchup, even factoring in the extra agency in currency. Their packs also differ, with the new substantially larger than the standard one.

[somber nexus]

used to be able yo get the 1st tier atleast as F2P. this is BS now

[magic scaffold]

what level lock is Quantum

[slender shuttle]

Literally any pack's content that isn't 99$ is so pathetic it's insulting. I think there's like 7 of them out of all 400 packs in store. The rest are 99$. Besides the battle pass you would seriously waste money buying anything less than 99$ in the store. Actually just buying anything tbh lol

[narrow violet]

In what sense? Every ops lvl has quantum syn. But only ops 50+ have quantum xindi

[velvet phoenix]

So the trelium event back with old points
So much to trust scopley

[brittle oriole]

this is just the normal failure and poor quality. And they will try to fix.

But Quantum Syndicate 💩 SLB Bracket 💩 and poor SMS Rewards 💩 are intentional.

[velvet phoenix]

Syndicate slb I given up long ago
Not even going to comment about their obvious hate on f2p on that event

[lost storm]

If its the only way to source something, to me that's even more of a reason that the first milestone needs to be obtainable by most players. I'm perfectly fine with the other 3 milestones requiring spending.

[pearl isle]

Scopely best at math again, they only fixed first same event and show middle finger with the 2nd

[velvet phoenix]

They made the Maidstone lower
But keep the stupid 10 points

[naive meteor]

Maidstone 🤣🤣

[velvet phoenix]

That was to get hamster out if hiding 🤣

[naive meteor]

It's in the county of Kent 🗾😁 🤣

[supple token]

which bracket is this?

[pearl isle]

Low 50s

[rare verge]

So I jump to here and I’m back home?

[velvet phoenix]

Think they given up on try fix it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217585499745550336/1249766800468476007/Screenshot_20240610_184606_Star_Trek_Fleet_Command.jpg?ex=66687f88&is=66672e08&hm=7a98773a22187042c03f2fda4a474797f7c52decb19d3d76ef778aaeb0ee1407&

Not calling it heroic will not hide it's a p2p event

[manic lion]

That's a standard buy this officer event which they have done for all the rares most of this year now which is the only way to get the rares in the month of release unfortunately

[supple token]

Confirmed that this is the updated version based on previous feedback

[pearl isle]

Indeed, if you use cc now.YOU CAN DO IT.

[velvet phoenix]

So this was wishful thinking or just false information

I did one rum now
89k/240k
This event is again made by someone who hate player

That is 1h grinding for just one event
😂😂😂

[proud wing]

the milestones are lower than last time

and it does say "it will be updated for future runs", and it has

[velvet phoenix]

Image no extra voucher was given
How people should do all the run needed
special when it's still broken and kicking player home ?

[proud wing]

that would be a different matter

if they adjusted events for bugs, this would be Star Trek Free Compchest 😉

[sleek haven]

Amount of trips I have to make to get the 40k trel I need isn’t possible, I will run out of entry tokens for first rift 😂 droppings points total isn’t that helpful with such low scores for each type of trel

[velvet phoenix]

I need 3 run so 1h
That not making me like the arc or the arc runner or the scopley devs for it
It is a mobile game not a second job

[proud wing]

really? what ops?

[sleek haven]

Ops55 but I’m out of the keys to get further in so unless I can raise the loot research by converting all the dust this low point per trel docked isn’t going to make it easy

Plus ROE on our server so no pvp in there to let you steal any

[rare kernel]

fix the dang token space....you pile 2 active servers together and can never find a 4* token mine....5* is too far the most...rogue space sux...no wonder people rage quit....ive been sitting in token space for 2 days waiting for a mine

[proud wing]

in Scopelys "opinion", youre expect to take a node

[muted hatch]

I just walked out with 57k using a T4 Corvus with a full loot crew on 51's its only like 300 common keys to reach Babel

[sleek haven]

Last time I tried was nowhere near that will see how I do after converting a lot,of dust to boost research to go there

[muted hatch]

Thats where I'm at if it helps

[sleek haven]

Up to there now as well and took barrier to 4 will see how it goes

[muted hatch]

Used E-Pic/E-Data/5 with Hugh/Torres/Paris below

[sleek haven]

I do that’s my normal loot crew

[inner cave]

So running theme last few arcs. Rare officers are pay only 😡🤬.

No events to even get some other that bp

[viral yarrow]

<@&509690795536941056> so to do trailing trillium SMS scopley wants me to spend 1 hour 40 mins in mirror space, just because they sit down all day doesn't mean I do, people have other things to do than spend that long and doing 5 trips to mirror space to get 250k points to complete sms

[rigid meteor]

At least let the loot chests count. All it takes is one player to take you out and you don't score at all... Its one thing to do docked resources from open systems. but when you can only get the rss from (in effect) token systems....... Once again, another reason people would leave.

[crimson cargo]

25k Trel-A docked, presumably not including chests...
Utterly ridiculous, I guess it too much to hope that @cosmic steeple and their band of merry minions would actually learn from last time.

Delusional, no other word for it.

[proud wing]

it was ok for me, 1 trip did the job, i guess the rest of you are all 50+?

4500 looted from the level 40 hostiles in 20mins, 20k for the final milestone

[muted hatch]

was 1 trip for me at ops 55 as well

[proud wing]

i dunno if that means were doing well, ahead of the curve or everyone else is just doing worse

[viral yarrow]

1 trip and timer ran out and hull nearly gone 2 billion trit to repair T1 corvus, I know where I would like to put that event

[weak walrus]

🙈

[manic lion]

There'll be some like me who's just ignoring these low reward high work events as not worth our time. Been doing very little so far this arc as all the rewards for a ops 49 is very meh

[ornate geyser]

Same happening here, ops 55, except I use Tally which is like 5x cheaper to repair, lol.

Only got about 20% of the points needed to clear it…

[light elm]

Last week after you all ‘fixed’ the scoring, I finished that event in 1 run… Now I will need at least 3 maybe 4.

[ornate geyser]

What’s up with that…?

[lime stream]

THIS ☝🏻 ☝🏻

I zone out on grinds and I think in all the trips I have made into mirror space I have only had 2 ships return to dock. It's really aggravating. Years of thoughtless grinding and now you want us to stop, wait the timer out, which is either never long enough or too long (on a token space mind you) or use your currency to get back. No thanks. That's bull💩

Im not buying packs for this. The gameplay is dropping in quality. My game freezes up pretty consistently on various screens. I have paid so much money into this game over the years and this MU is starting off terrible in my opinion. I just will not shill out money for continued garbage. I am fixing to walk away at this point.

The amount of grinds one needs to do to get scraps is just insane at this point.

Fix this junk.

[viral yarrow]

I don't have the time to put in there plus do other events. Scopley think we sit all day playing this game and don't work 😂

[sleek haven]

Be an hour for me now with a few mirror research upgrades but with everything else in game time sink upon time sink

[ornate geyser]

I’m totally skipping it. Not even sure it’s worth one 15 minute grind, it for sure is not worth an hour and a half of grinding…

And it’s back to the long standing issue…lack of communication. Yapping on discord isn’t communication…hitting things fixed and keeping them fixed…that’s communication.

[celest relic]

Sounds like their syndicate updates have been a resounding success and they can’t wait to replicate that behavior elsewhere? 🤷‍♂️

[inner cave]

Syndicate event this time around was like not doable at all, even the 1 tier that I usually get

[velvet phoenix]

Hey where is the hamster ping everyone with "not helping" msg ?
Or he does it only to me ?
People are negative, someone wake him up 🤣

[viral yarrow]

They brought in freebooters to save player time in game, then introduced another 5 or 6 grinds since then, I find I am playing less and less and just doing enough to do dailies and some events, I don't do swarm, Borg ,voyager, silent, xindi and bajoran grinds anymore unless there is an event on for one of them. I don't have that kind of time and have been playing since the start

[ornate geyser]

It’s not just you…not saying more in public, lol…

[velvet phoenix]

But but but you got great amazing officer filter 😉

[ornate geyser]

Seriously…so out of touch…🤣

[velvet phoenix]

A inventory filter
Yes please

[lime stream]

The dedicated grinds they are making now is also just dumb. Wave defense. These timed runs in MU. Easy 40-60 mins of your day. And they still want you to buy 💩

[jolly sun]

Sounds an underpowered situation or crews, I needed 40k, I get around 130k in Cargo per run

[fickle imp]

scopely???

[proud wing]

off today

[violet thistle]

Sure its already been discussed but fix the raw trilium docked event. Your scoring is ridiculous, one trip 4800 farmed (plus chests) only got t1 rewards. So....4 trips, on a token gated system and an hour of straight farming? No thanks

[fickle imp]

<@&509690795536941056> it seems that the dock trillium event is impossible for many lower lvl g5 players

[trim hare]

@cosmic steeple @supple token good evening! Any updates about this please? Thank you!

[supple token]

I already pinged this to HQ

[spring imp]

Has anyone upped Mirror Data past lvl 15?

[supple token]

No news yet but I heard the Incursion schedule will be announced soon! 👀

[brittle oriole]

Why should we spend money to this mess?

[trim hare]

Ouch, let's hope we can have some clarity/transparency about whether any of those events are planned! ☺️

[weak walrus]

The question should be has anyone actually got him 😏

[spring imp]

I found out that you have to spend refined Trillium to upgrade him lvl 15 and higher.

[serene helm]

Incursions should be every week

[dreamy patio]

https://tenor.com/view/johny-gif-27696534

[brittle oriole]

Goes around that mirror Picard needs liquid trellium aswell after t2

[deep steeple]

I thought the dock trillium event was being adjusted to be easier this time. Last time I completed in 1 run going to take 3 or 4 this time same ops lvl!

[proud wing]

tis true

[rare shoal]

My Trailing Trellium event last milestone is literally doubled, how is it easier

[dreamy patio]

no it's not

They're lower than it was

[rare shoal]

Yup, just checked, looked only double, had it wrong by a decimal

[noble mural]

Dock trellium from grinding hostilles isnt working!
No idea if that was ment to be that way or not.

[dreamy patio]

What you actually get in your cargo counts, what you get from chests does not

[molten sigil]

14.2k/33.4k/5700 5.5M/329.6k

[noble mural]

I didnt get any points though!

[molten sigil]

If you’re actually only getting 16 per kill you’re doing it wrong

[molten sigil]

Did your ship blow up?

[noble mural]

Yes

[molten sigil]

Then you docked 0 trellium, you have to survive and leave the mirror universe and then return home to dock it

[noble mural]

So I have to wait till I get kicked out.

[molten sigil]

That or go to an extract zone and leave

[noble mural]

Would be nice if scopely expöains how the event works in the descreption instead of putting nonsense in there

[molten sigil]

The losing it if you die part was in the video and other descriptions of the zones

[noble mural]

Ah scopely thinks we have to search for the event descreption somewhere else, really clever!

[soft tulip]

yes, they have to monetize the youtube videos somehow, why do you think there is an annoying videos button now ?

[molten sigil]

Even outside their own YT channel it’s been gone over a ton tbh

It’s the one thing they explained a bit about MU

[cosmic iron]

actually there was a pop up of 4 images exactly explaining how MU works the first time you entered it

[molten sigil]

Every content creator has gone over it a bunch as well, and it’s been posted about in Discord like 1000x

[fickle imp]

@supple token any update on the event for reference this is as much as ive been able to get in a single cargo as a lvl 51

[crisp umbra]

last week they changed amount to 1500/4500 per raw stuff. now back to 10/30. tipycal

[fervent vessel]

Bruh I am dying in this event lol

Is there some secret or something I'm forgetting/not realizing? Even selkies cant mine fast enough

[dusky tundra]

Mining research

[haughty sonnet]

You don't want to mine any Raw Trellium without a bunch of research

[dusky tundra]

Dont mine without T4 research

[modern topaz]

Don't mine?

[dusky tundra]

Better off grinding

[fervent vessel]

Grinding isn't gonna get me there either. Sigh.

[dusky tundra]

Nope but is better

[fervent vessel]

Oh wow. Going to T4 on the research does make a bit of a difference

I was just waiting for another research sms event to do more research but yeah it's gonna make a huge difference

[crisp umbra]

my final mi´lestone is 400k. dont think research t4 will sort it. i have t3 atm

[fervent vessel]

Holy crap T5 is double T4

Took it to T6. Can't do anymore without converting dust. Don't want to do that yet, but T6 should make this event possible

Want that pink research stuff for faction rep griding. I'll save that research for an sms event.

[fiery fulcrum]

Same boat here. They forgot they fixed the event last time.

[crimson cargo]

Still getting kicked back to station.. log a ticket @cosmic steeple says, get your tokes back.
Maybe @cosmic steeple hasn't tried to log a ticket lately, they've made it bloody impossible to actually log a ticket!!
How about a "scopely are useless so the game is broken AS USUAL, give me back my lost tokens" button?!

Impossible events made yet worse by repeated bugs only made even worse by a help section that's absolutely no help at all.

Honestly if this lot worked anywhere else, they'd have been sacked a long time since!!

Come work for scopely, we employ the inherently useless!

[crisp umbra]

there is a way to force Sco"pay"ly. Beat them with own Weapons. call back your Money from last pack and Tadddaaaaaaaaa they react ASAP 🤣

[crimson cargo]

How does that work? I'd gladly do it!!

[fervent vessel]

Man this event sucks

[crisp umbra]

5mil is heavy. what is your OPs level?

[cosmic iron]

has to be between 61-64

[crisp umbra]

yeah 60+ ive seen about sigma ress

and we moan about 400k points 🤣

[keen sail]

In fact one trip to Mirror Babel is enough to finish 400k milestone for ops 55 in my case. Now run out uncommon rift key, don’t know where to get them.

[crisp umbra]

ypu can change them in reff

what crew/ship in babel?

https://tenor.com/view/warp-warpspeed-mayar-gif-23400331

[wild fjord]

I’m not going to be able to finish this.

[fervent vessel]

I focused on mining research to finish it

[crisp umbra]

i focused damage hostiles and loot. will go a round 51s now

undoeble in TauCeti

[ornate geyser]

Good grief. At least hook up ChatGPT and fake a modicum of caring, lol…

[worthy plaza]

Just did a hull's worth as a low 50s, got 70k points, need 250k. That's about 4 trips or about 80 mins. Yeah a big fail here. I'm done with this MU. I feel like they accidentally used the M letter instead of fail.

and hilariously...they got the complaints about too many heroics. So they take that feedback, removed all "heroics", replaced them with "quantum" and jacked up the cost to complete. Way so tonedeaf.

[wanton robin]

Can confirm the event is ridiculous (3-4 runs) for low 50s

[jovial crypt]

This MU Data event is impossible without spending like 4.7K to complete it. Every other run of this type of event could be completed with spending ~600. They’ve lost their minds

[narrow crypt]

Today's Mirror Event (Trailing Trellium) was very grindy... I needed (ops 55) 3 runs to complete it - which is 60 minutes of just grinding Mirror Hostiles.
Not to mention the amount of Rift Tokens to get to the relevant systems etc.

Please consider adjusting the scoring to need less time spend grinding hostiles for one event - or make the event over 3 days instead.

[undone pebble]

was banned for 1 day after I said Bek is making videos being all excited for more added stuff we DIDN'T asked for. So I await scopely back lash for this too.

🤣🫵next time type it in braille to really yank their chains

[crisp umbra]

🤣🤣🤣

[steep niche]

🤣😅🤣

[rare verge]

Yeah we have this just lying around 🫤🤔🤔

[deep steeple]

Whats with these stupid high milestones now events are getting impossible to complete

[noble escarp]

Yep and it seems to be broken. I spent 12k Temporal Disruptors and got 3k points. I know Scopely math is 'different' but I think 12k x 5 = 60k

[deep steeple]

The dock trellium needed adjusting as that was too high, whomever the arc runner is is setting expectations high even for scopely

[slender escarp]

“Premium” mirror dust is apparently on par with prime research nodes.

[desert laurel]

Did you spend 12k temporal disrupter Parts?

[deep steeple]

Really bad arc for event completion probably worse I've seen since starting game

[noble escarp]

I just rethought it. I was wrong. Another event that cannot be completed without holding a months worth of currency.

[elfin raptor]

I truly hope they plan to adjust it , unless their famous excuse of comes out "OH..so sorry commanders, That was meant to say Heroic SMS"

[wide sonnet]

It's Quantum now, it's more chic

[ashen wharf]

they will keep making new words

its all just heroic

dont expect anything less

[opal mantle]

Okay, so quantum physics is my favorite subject in all of science but now scopely is trying to ruin that. Apparently their idea of a quantum world is events with awful rewards and unattainable milestones

[velvet phoenix]

Star trek heroic fleet commander
Solved 😂

[opal mantle]

Anyone have 16,000 Temporal Disruptors sitting around?

[dreamy patio]

got 8k, heh

[lofty arrow]

lol, nope, we only get 600 p/day, we would had to have saved then all for the last 4 weeks, but, we had an event to spend them not that long ago.

Skipping that silly event

[grizzled mulch]

Well, if by "quantum" they mean "small," then it tracks with the rewards at least 😄

[opal mantle]

Nice

[warped ginkgo]

Funny enough, I havnt spent any since the last event for them, and I have just about 4k doing some single pulls and daily claim, they expect you to have the temporal disruptor prime (4x daily claim)

[fresh bramble]

The sms event looks to be wrong in game as does not match calendar

[rare shoal]

Seems to match for me? 11th of June & we're 11th

[fresh bramble]

Yea but the event says spend disruptors but above says restore and upgrade

[covert spruce]

Yeah you’re right, restoring and upgrading them say they count towards scoring but isn’t in the event…

[rare shoal]

Ah yes

It's missing scoring points

[rare shoal]

@supple token Event scoring is wrongly configured

[opal mantle]

Good catch though I’m gonna wait a week

[grizzled mulch]

@cosmic steeple Can you address the point that Temp Arti SMS doesn't have all the scoring mechanics?

[radiant prairie]

@cosmic steeple maybe they can also add back regular artifacts counting while they're at it

[serene helm]

Yes would be nice for us lower lvls

[low yoke]

Why is there another mirror upgrade slb? Doesn't say so in the event schedule

[velvet phoenix]

Best arc ever
Greatest events ever
Love the arc runner

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[fervent vessel]

So this temporal disruptor event. If you didn't save up ahead of time you're screwed.

[warped ginkgo]

Yes it does?

[static mica]

It lists an SMS not an SLB... @supple token @abstract gate Can we get a list of any other upcoming events that are not on the schedule but should be?

[marsh flame]

This is what really annoyed me about the tv show “ quantum leap”.

So he didn’t go very far then did he?

[static mica]

Yep at least it's an equalizer for everyone in a way...
F2P - no way to complete.*
Spender - no pack thus no way to complete.*
Spender who bought the prime previously - no way to complete.*

*unless you didn't participate in the last artifact event(s) and saved all your stuff

Player who has for whatever reason been hoarding through previous artifact events (or maybe got insider knowledge this was coming) - has a chance to complete.

[celest relic]

Looks like they didn’t setup the correct scoring, event. This may impact how players spent for next weeks as well

[green trail]

Ok so for the Temporal Artifact event, I need to get 80k points by spending disruptors at 5 each? 16,000 disruptors?!?

[fervent vessel]

Problem is I already upgraded some artifacts today so even if they update the mechanics I'm still screwed.

I don't see how they don't just give a comp chest at this point

[static mica]

Yes the original milestones probably were designed with those scoring metrics in mind. which would also explain why those packs are up...lol

[celest relic]

Yup. Scopes made a bad

<@&509690795536941056> can y’all take another look at the scoring for the temporal artifact sms? Looks incompletely setup

[dreamy patio]

it's being looked into

[celest relic]

Thanks AT 🙏

[desert laurel]

Should be noted that nothing in the schedule is set in stone, and even the scoring can be changed. There's enough detail in the SMS to indicate this run's change from the schedule was intended.

[celest relic]

I mean, scopes could run xslb events for freeman and mirror Picard every day until eternity. Doesn’t mean we should accept that as reasonable.

[desert laurel]

Sure, give them feedback on that, but you can't hold them to the schedule.

[static mica]

When an event's only way of completing is to save for it ahead of time...17 days if you bought the prime or 27 if you didn't...not being able to know what's coming even within the arc is absurd. How is it that you don't think as players and consumers of a product, we can't have an expectation and provide feedback that the events need to match the schedule or changes to be communicated?

[hexed kettle]

The answer is that every one of these quantum events are heroic events, requiring spend to complete. Really, really, boring.

[cosmic steeple]

Looking into this

[cosmic steeple]

Yup.

[velvet phoenix]

Wasn't it not tested before go live today?

[slender escarp]

Not testing is how they roll.

Or, if they do test anything, they test it with maxed everything on the account instead of from the start of a loop.

[velvet phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-bill-and-ted-bogus-journey-bill-and-ted-no-way-gif-21841748

[glossy falcon]

Kind of sums up the state of the entire game.

[fierce beacon]

Quantum events are not higher difficulty, they are higher cost. Words have meaning, Scopely. Use the right ones.

[narrow crypt]

Scummy announcements 101. Yay. Thanks for nailing those colours to the wall.
Pay or go away.

[velvet phoenix]

Scopley please repeat
Its not pay only
Its just harder
Repeat 1000 and we maybe believe 🤣

[fierce beacon]

🤣 Oh, wait...I just remembered, I can earn more from the store. Another disingenuous Scopely euphamism.

[frozen lodge]

This month is confirming that those of us who don’t spend thousands of dollars a month on this game are not the target Customer.
They would very much prefer not to have to deal with us at all.

My mute is finished. I am no longer silenced.

Do not attempt to convince me that what I hear and feel is rain.

[sour shore]

"A man looked up and saw rain falling on his face.

Up top, God zipped up his pants."

[frozen lodge]

Let the seas boil. Let the galaxy burn…

[uneven wave]

What's the point in the schedule if they can't stick to it?

[covert spruce]

@cosmic steeple suggestion based on the frustration around the quantum artefact event - seeing as you’ve removed the upgrading and restoring scoring from the event description then why not just run a normal separate artefact upgrade and restore event? That way those that have been expecting that based on the event schedule will get one and you still have the quantum event that people can pay to participate in as it’s about spending temporal disruptors

You could even set the rewards as some lower grade dust and entry tokens etc

[lofty arrow]

Personally I am not finding this game lately as fun. We play to have fun. The last Fun thing they added was waves. Making things difficult to accomplish or kill is never fun. They need to bring back the fun factor. Hope to god they don’t add another specialty ship for the MU. Might be the straw that breaks the Camels back.

[covert spruce]

Would guess it’ll be a miner given that mining in MU is only viable if you’re a G6 player

[dreamy patio]

don't need to be g6 to mine decently, but you do have to max out the research

[normal osprey]

Which you need to be a G6 player to max lol

[lofty arrow]

Bring back the fun factor please

[sour shore]

https://tenor.com/view/joueur-du-grenier-no-fun-fun-fun-is-not-allowed-stop-it-gif-16558170

[lofty arrow]

lol, nice

[frozen lodge]

Scopely does not want you to have fun. Unless you are spending like a Saudi Prince.

[lofty arrow]

Sure, let’s spend for an apex barrier that does not exist, Lol

[pale rain]

Playing time has gone way down. They lost more money from me this arc. I was planning on pushing to 56 but guess I'll just wait for free mats if I even continue to play that long. Company and game has gone stupid with nothing but paid events and I will not contribute to this

[desert laurel]

They can be helpful for those who don't need perfect information to make plans. They're probably >95% correct for events that are listed which can give planners an advantage. Some events are almost always left out, eg. syndicate, but they usually run ~twice a month so an observant player can plan around that.

In general, not having everything set in stone allows them to change and adjust events as they need. The most notable example of this was during the Mantis month, when players rightfully noted that there were few events for non-ship buyers, and they adjusted the month's events en masse.

[clever wasp]

@desert laurel 🥃🥃🥃 my friend. Thankless work sir. Much appreciated

[muted venture]

it's slightly better than announcing 1-2 days before events, which is still a big issue

[velvet phoenix]

For sure they will ad a speciality ship

[desert laurel]

ISS stargazer, with mining bonus.

Calling it now.

[velvet phoenix]

And later skin to it give 10min extra mu time

[worldly dune]

Logical since the picard slb/sms event mentioned the ISS Stargazer.

[proud wing]

If it’s not mining bonus, it will be key efficiency

[surreal sandal]

hmmm

[velvet phoenix]

One thing sure
It will be 6 months to collect f2p
Prove me wrong 😂

[covert onyx]

They are owned by them so....

[covert onyx]

Yeah it helps the spenders plan which scopley loves. Need that winter house completed before Thanksgiving

[winter quarry]

@modest frost so burnt all my tickets trying to complete the event on tues morning so guess all of us that did that just put up a 3 day shield and don’t engage with this junk arc until we get more. 🤷 nice quality over quantity…

[velvet phoenix]

Now you want quantity of vouchers not quality 😂

[winter quarry]

😂

[sour shore]

What if, just what if, they make an "Improve quality" pack. I wonder how many ppl would buy that one 🤣

[winter quarry]

lol just saying making people pay for tokens to get to an area to compete in pay events may be self defeating of your goals scopley 😂🤷

[velvet phoenix]

That will be a multiple lv prime
9999 lv
99$ each
Sopley if you use my idea now I want my share 😉😂

[echo pier]

Did you buy the I want my share prime ?

[velvet phoenix]

Yes but it's broken like kir'shara

[echo pier]

Okay don’t worry. The 16 patches will fix it in 2025

[cold horizon]

And we again have ‘retrieving’ events. Apparently Scopley refuses to fix this very old, recurring issue.
<@&509691611903426561> : At least tell us what the events are about.

[celest relic]

Apex mitigation. Slb and sms. Kill mirror hostiles sms. Borg probe bp sms

[supple token]

thanks buddy! I already reported the retrieving events

[cold horizon]

Thx, but without the scoring mechanisms, its not an event yet, imho

[celest relic]

My autogrinder killing 37s got 1000 per kill in the slb, and 89 per kill in the sms. No score in bp

[ashen bane]

When waroom will start?

[prime viper]

no warroom

[brave scarab]

I cannot believe we're still getting Retrieving events after all this time.

[ashen bane]

Why no waroom?

[neat brook]

#⭐-official-announcements message

[prime viper]

got delayed

[ashen bane]

Thanks

[shadow swan]

What?

[warped ginkgo]

So this is gonna be a "mitigate damage with apex barrier" slb huh? 😩

[cold horizon]

Maybe, but scoring mech is unknown for players under lvl40

[shadow swan]

Retrieving.... am I a dog? 🐶

[tulip ether]

again with the "Retrieving..." events 😐

[long eagle]

Hope some day they bank account will have same message… forever

[cold horizon]

20m retrieving now, but no reaction from scopely in any way. Are they asleep?
Is it gonna take several hours again to have this fixed?

[hard fern]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-dog-lady-crash-gif-12733795

[fleet dove]

it's really that hard to test content before releasing it?

[brave scarab]

We're their testers.

[cold horizon]

Not at all, but scopey apparently never tests anything. Nor do they have any quality control.
They just dont care

[velvet phoenix]

Can we not have one evening without drama?
Is scopley take one time the responsibility to provide a working product?
It's ridiculous

[grand eagle]

Why should they care when people are literally handing them millions of dollars every month?

[sour shore]

Has anyone figured out what else other than killing hostiles is giving points for the dust event?

[cold horizon]

We shouldnt need to find that out ourselves. It is scopely’s job to tell us.
Not in an hour or longer, but NOW

[sour shore]

I mean, I know, but if they aren't going to do their job properly....

[tulip ether]

can someone post teh scoring mechanics?

killing MU hostiles is scoring higher

[shadow swan]

Kill hostiles using an exlorer.

[cold horizon]

That would be neat, however the below lvl40 players prob have other scoring mechs. So we need to know them for several brackets

[chilly venture]

points are for damage mitigated by apex barrier

[molten glade]

add new events and cant fix the retrieving ones we have...

[mental yoke]

lol…these events…might be better just left at retrieving

[graceful thicket]

So Scopely is entirely done entertaining the free to play I guess

[molten glade]

well they could have given us more warning on the new one..

with it being a borg one figured the other one was too and already upgraded my freaking cube

[upper atlas]

So this event is basically forcing ops 39 and below players to level up to participate in this quantum event?

[high bolt]

Wonderful. Two ships I don't have and the other two I can't upgrade right now. Cube is stuck thanks to the limits from faction ships, and don't have Ore for my Monaveen.

[coarse dirge]

Breaker I think you’re right to get anything useful you have to buy

Resort

[molten glade]

i am lvl locked on my monveen

i am not going to 51 just to do an event

[brave scarab]

The nonsense gets more ridiculous every freaking day.

[violet thistle]

Well retrieving pic of a augur hitting a kori sucks. Ive tried all combos of fed and kling kills with different battleships and only 1k per kill. 5m points to max event...

[exotic glade]

2nd place in "retrieving..." and 1st place was also in same place as me, so we the retrieving pros! ... everyone else is like 10x less

[undone pebble]

🤔these guys(Scopely) are so unprofessional telling. event release now. What's up in this management cause I can't imagine being in it and seeming to go out my way to screw with consumers🤔

[brave scarab]

It's like an abusive relationship but people pay for the privilege of being mistreated.

[brave nexus]

I'm nearly finished now after killing borg probes

[wanton coyote]

"Retrieving" events???🧐

[molten glade]

you should know by the picture what it is....lol

[stable iris]

explorer hunter, kill with explorer?

[cold horizon]

40m now and still retrieving. Why doesnt scopley just copy/paste the fix, as they also blindly do with events?