🏆-event-chat

[desert laurel]

I just linked a similar level team that did amazingly well, kinda surprised yours didn't win.

#🏆-event-chat message

[cobalt flare]

Did you use an Exo or Cerritos to buff anything? I need to do a 50 or buy directives to complete SMS, too. Can do the 48 Uncommons, but your Kori is a little stronger than my Pilum. Other ships comparable.

[bitter snow]

Lorca instead of Gorkon... that may be the difference?

Certainly close enough that lack of breach could have made that difference...

[desert laurel]

While it's close to a win, it's not close to the performance of the other team.

And I don't think a HB swap can cover that.

[bitter snow]

ship powers almost identical though, weird

lower officer stats/research maybe?

[north olive]

Pfft just seen, dunno what else I can do my research is pretty decent not many if any 49s can touch me ohwell

[north olive]

I cerri kori and kelv and added 300 armadas damage exo

[cobalt flare]

Thanks! That's a bit discouraging, though. lol

I'll still probably give it a shot once I get the directives this afternoon. But there is no room for error with this event, given armada directive sourcing. If you fail one of the 50s (at Ops 49), you cannot complete the SMS without $. Would have been nice if they'd designed in some room to experiment.

[bitter snow]

We say "room to experiment" They say "lost marketing opportunity" 😂

[north olive]

Event like this game just wants ya monies these days

Better odds in casinos

[bitter snow]

eeeh.
At least if you put money into stfc you know what you're getting out (within reason) 😂

[north olive]

Disappointed and recycled bugs 🤣🤣

[bitter snow]

Consistent is better than correct 🤣

[cobalt flare]

Even if they'd made it so you could retain the damage you'd done and respark the Domada, it would give us a chance. But it's either a win or done.

[muted island]

Just for giggles, I tried those crews on a 48 with a Cerritos and two 80% exocomps. I went boom. LOL Probably should have tried a 46. 🤣
No big deal. I figured I wouldn't score well in the Armada 1on1 event anyway, so I thought I would experiment a little bit. Next time I'll try a 46.

[abstract gate]

https://tenor.com/view/brave-fortune-favors-fortune-favors-the-brave-you-vs-wild-interactive-series-gif-16543826

[rugged nacelle]

I hate doomsday worms. There I've said it.
I hate it everytime an event comes up having to kill them.
I hate that they stop at 46 meaning you can't smash it out quicker.
I hate that there are 3 "ship" types of worm meaning you can't stick to your own triangle.
I hate that you have to kill 45s to make the 46s pop up - prolonging your agony of having to get through the tedious event for even longer
I hate that they have nothing to offer me in the game whatsoever, no broken parts or rep or specialist materials (like frequency mods, nanos, etc), its just a time swallower, and I really hate that too.
so now there is a SLB Cerritos worm-killing event meaning I will have to spend multiple amounts of important pink buff juice to complete all the milestones. The rewards are really really good for that event, so I will probably do it.

But I will hate every minute of it

[charred shadow]

All battle pass points events should just score from the collection of dailies like the normal events that give loot when you complete and collect dailies

Faction reds, mantis reds, probes, swarm, jem reds. Event reds that have no synergy like worms for battle pass, jelly brawl, etc. So much time required

[prime hawk]

Should there have been a gift chest of matrix diodes to open Those Who Walk Behind 1-5 with? On @loud solar's latest video he referenced opening two missions from DS9 in Holodeck and some of our alliance seem to have had the diodes to start these on top of the Tinker, Tailor, Doctor, Spy mission chain but can't remember where they got them while others of us only got the latter mission?

[rough frost]

They probably had left overs diode from previous arc. The diode are in MS 10 and 14

[prime hawk]

Yeah, thought that might be it but when Rev said two missions in his video, I wondered if there was a mistake of some sort

[terse summit]

What would you recommend when switching Augur to Ent? 👀 Rest is fine, I could take Kelvin instead Val with same crew - but my baby augur is below 4.5m power and my max Ente will do a better job

[abstract gate]

Kirk, Nero, Tyler.

[fathom shuttle]

Is that an event locked to a specific Cerritos level? I don't see it.

[terse summit]

Thx

[bitter snow]

T5

or 6, not sure when it cuts in

[fathom shuttle]

If it is 5 I will see in about 1 week 😂

[ripe jungle]

It’s the current battlepass event I thought he was talking about

[knotty seal]

How do i exchange antimatter units? For the reputation event

[desert laurel]

Use this exchange to get badges, then buy the rep on the far left.

[knotty seal]

Ty

[proven bluff]

@abstract gate @pseudo rune Now what?

@desert laurel ?

[bitter snow]

claiming one faction thing should finish the event

[desert laurel]

There is no context, did you buy the rep in the first SS?

[bitter snow]

Or doing a mission if you didn't already

[proven bluff]

I did the mission

[bitter snow]

before or after event dropped?

[proven bluff]

The Rep will give me 1500 points.

[ripe jungle]

Or after the scoring fix

[bitter snow]

Check the scoring

[ripe jungle]

It should give 150k

[desert laurel]

No, the rep will finish the event, the scoring card you see isn't updated.

[abstract gate]

No, it’ll give you 150,000 points

[proven bluff]

OK

[abstract gate]

Pinky promise 🙂

[molten cloak]

Any indication of when (or if) jelly pursuit will run this month?

[desert laurel]

No info yet.

[proven bluff]

It works. Thank you

[paper venture]

This battle pass is very low on events especially if your below level 35.

[molten cloak]

Heaven forbid we should be able to plan and strategize in a ‘strategic mmo’ 🙂

[ripe grail]

Any material spend Slbs?

[abstract gate]

If you intend to plan your way to a Jelly Auction win, you’re not winning it IME 😆

[agile steeple]

Plan to save up 3 months salary

[crisp jacinth]

I acquired 1 and scored 700???

[versed osprey]

you got the points for completing a research

[crisp jacinth]

I bought a favour

[versed osprey]

yes, but you got the amount of points you would get for completing a research

check the other scoring mechanism

[crisp jacinth]

I know but I had no researches running and bought lvl 1 of this favour

[versed osprey]

.......

ill try to explain it again

the event is broken

[elder comet]

Who wants to kill 1000 hostiles or 250 in target space? Anyone? No one? C'mon... Someone wants to after killing dozens of the new hostiles for antimatter already. Please raise your hands

[versed osprey]

you got 700 points which you get for completing a research, while you should have gotten 2000 points

[crisp jacinth]

Yep!

[jovial panther]

Use an amalgam with the plundered loot exo

[versed osprey]

its easier if you hunt for plundered cargo

[versed osprey]

that

[crisp jacinth]

Waiting for the milestone to reset to 10mil for researches later 🤣

[elder comet]

Obviously! But just enlighten me about the bs scoring we got lately.....

[rapid axle]

@fresh peak or @muted stag love the typo in the news update for the next stage of Espionage

[crisp jacinth]

Not the hardest of QA tests - there are 2 things that score - press A - does is say 2000, press B does is say 700 🤣

[iron mica]

Disruptor is limited to 5 shards? Lmao shouldn’t even be there then

[fathom tangle]

oh, you only get rods to complete one collaboration?

so... anyone got an idea whom to collaborate with/whom to investigate?

[copper pulsar]

We really need some more eclipse hostile zones that spit out 39/40s. This is getting so old.

[sacred gale]

Higher levels would also appreciated and would reduce the load on the 40s systems

[full egret]

#scopely how come most of my alliance will be unable to complete the espionage event due to being 100 points short of each of the three

[south osprey]

my ongoing theory is it won't matter... which ever officer gets the least attention from us players will be the spy in December so the least amount of players will get the extra rewards

[full egret]

Not all the events have been easy for our smaller players, we like to take in a lot of new players to the game and some events they have struggled on

This is how the game losing new players

[young pike]

Lmao

[fathom tangle]

so sorry for you 😦

[young pike]

Would be nice if Scopely would let use know things like this are coming so we could plan.

[full egret]

Exactly

[knotty granite]

What are you showing that you put into two different officers

[young pike]

I have not way to complete any of them

[fathom tangle]

preaching to the choir 😿
fortunately, that was "only" part of my leftover from last month, not todays rods

[serene forum]

is there any lag on the rewards?

[young pike]

Last I heard you better not save from last month cause you wouldn’t be able to spend them if you hold them

[rapid axle]

Okay is there a problem with Event scoring. I have killed 2 Hostiles (in Eclipse Space) now and not gotten any points. My kid who has a basic hostile hunt has done a few Swarm and gotten no points also

[edgy wadi]

Gah!! Scopely you sly evil ugh… 😑 you didn’t protect my stupidity enough. I redeemed for each as well!!!

[knotty granite]

@everyone No time for a video on this one, so here's the "Quick and Dirty" in text form.

Espionage is BACK! and the investigation is heating up! This month, you are required to heavily investigate an individual. Please note your "meta" SMS's... it will require a certain number of briefs for that officer. If you try to split evenly, you'll miss out on extra rewards. It's time to follow your gut, explore that hunch, and investigate that officer that's just giving you 'that feeling.'

The collaboration SMS requires 6 briefs for any officer to hit the top milestone. Completing that SMS will automatically finish your Collaboration "Meta" giving you 1000 additional chips. Today, you have been given a total of 6 rods to invest into your pick. All 6 must be invested into 1 officer.

What say you Detective? Let's see if you're actually on to something here......

Good Luck! - DJz & Talking Trek

[rapid axle]

Correct it took a moment and kids are now showing

[serene forum]

im missing 1k of isolinear chips

[empty stratus]

Espionage is…. Dumb

[rapid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/job-interview-gif-25758472

[edgy wadi]

SOB!!! Don’t do it! Pick one only!!! 😤😭😭😭

[young pike]

Again where is that information BEFORE they launch

[serene forum]

too late, ive spent it all in just 1

[opal cave]

gah... that's so nasty..

didn't say u would only get the ability to do 1 of 3..

[rare verge]

Complete research is not scoring points in event 😩😩

[desert laurel]

The information was listed in the bottom of the event description...

[opal cave]

sigh..

this is so effin' annoying

[empty stratus]

So when espionage is finally over all there will be is a bunch of irritated players, just an FYI.

[opal cave]

who's bright idea was that..

[simple spear]

How come they couldn't make it so you had to join in like faction?

[knotty granite]

How is that different from other events... 🤣

[desert laurel]

This week's events are a learning set, there'll be opportunities to make up for the mistakes made. That said, unless you have spare rods, you should probably all-in on one officer today in order to finish the events.

[empty stratus]

Youre right. My bad, keep up the consistency Scopely. Good job, go team!

[dusky lintel]

Stupid event.

[simple spear]

Intentionally left out event list to ensure more mistakes were made more like it.

[full egret]

Is that the retrieving one that then vanished?

[scenic summit]

All you can do is laugh I'm sure this espionage thing seemed great in theory but it's just a pita

[edgy wadi]

Yeah you must scroll to read the evil plot

[gritty hamlet]

scoring in the event by any research didnt work for me :/ anyone got same issue ?

[edgy wadi]

Or scroll enough to the right and read the other event which says the same 😓

[delicate estuary]

Or, if you have enough Rods to do all 3 Collaboration SMSs, they'll only give you those chips and stiff you on the 1k from the Meta

[fathom tangle]

yes 😦
correction: laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag! just got them!

[serene forum]

how long are the tickets taking to get an response these days?

[edgy wadi]

<—— this guy failed today’s Scopely hidden “one officer”, please remove my rods so I can make a single selection haha

[full egret]

I don’t have that

[full egret]

@desert laurel

[desert laurel]

What's in your event description if you scroll all the way down?

[fathom tangle]

lots of text that nobody reads because it's usually just pointless?

[full egret]

My bad, it was retrieving, then blank but now I see it

[atomic seal]

Am I hearing the feedback correctly that players below lvl 35 can't really do anything with jem Hadar hostile loot and the bajoran faction store?

[desert laurel]

I don't see how you can use the exchanges without being 35+.

[atomic seal]

What an awful design

[edgy wadi]

Note: Completing events will give you
enough resources to complete only one
of the three ongoing investigations.

[atomic seal]

There's no incentive then for players below lvl 35 to interact with jem Hadar space

[edgy wadi]

Note: pick only one officer to investigate, PS we are lazy and didn’t protect you for not reading (if you are illiterate or aren’t here for text)

[fathom tangle]

incorrect: my incentive was to kill 1 dominion hostile to score on the ims 😉

but yeah, nothing after that 😄

[static wigeon]

Searches the OFFICIAL DISCORD announcements for the game for this information in vain

everyone No time for a video on this one, so here's the "Quick and Dirty" in text form.

Espionage is BACK! and the investigation is heating up! This month, you are required to heavily investigate an individual. Please note your "meta" SMS's... it will require a certain number of briefs for that officer. If you try to split evenly, you'll miss out on extra rewards. It's time to follow your gut, explore that hunch, and investigate that officer that's just giving you 'that feeling.'

The collaboration SMS requires 6 briefs for any officer to hit the top milestone. Completing that SMS will automatically finish your Collaboration "Meta" giving you 1000 additional chips. Today, you have been given a total of 6 rods to invest into your pick. All 6 must be invested into 1 officer.

What say you Detective? Let's see if you're actually on to something here......

Good Luck! - DJz & Talking Trek

[delicate estuary]

Even if you complete all 3, it doesn't give you all the rewards. Already filed a ticket but I didn't get my chips from the Meta

[atomic seal]

I'm lvl 44, so I honestly didn't notice, but a lot of my alliance are sub 35. What a trash update for them. Makes them feel like they don't belong.

[desert laurel]

Post a SS of your espionage events if you would please.

[fathom tangle]

there's maybe 10-20 ppl on the entire server 110 who are 35+

[delicate estuary]

Should have 2600, 500*3+1000+100(leftover from last Arc)

[desert laurel]

Have you rebooted yet?

[delicate estuary]

Twice

[lost oar]

All 6 must be invested into 1 pick.. 🤣 to late now yay

[pallid wyvern]

i mean this tiny bit of text is clearly overlooked when LITERALLY EVERY OTHER EVENT IN THE GAME contains nothing of use in that text box, so most players are conditioned to skip/skim it

its our fault for not reading, but its also awful design when you intro a type of event where you HAVE to do only one, and are NOT making us "buy in" like otehr events

we've had those warfare ones where you had to "pick" a faction, so if you'd used the same kinda buyin mechanism everyone would know they can do one

simple UX people, damn

[edgy wadi]

Like this if you were tricked in October by Scopley for thinking you could win every event and spent your rods in more than one investigation leaving yourself S.O.L.

[fathom tangle]

i mean... that would be using an established game mechanic. can't do that! ppl would think we're not innovative!

[serene forum]

nice,i aint the only one with that problem

[cyan finch]

Why refits n projectiles are there for 24hrs

[pallid wyvern]

Why use one currency when many currency work worse?

[cyan finch]

Keep on changing everyday?

[edgy wadi]

Literally what I’ve been saying to myself all along… new devs probably don’t want to reuse what old devs did…. Look at Favors?(research) must have let go the last person who knew how to extend research trees…

[cyan finch]

Lol give 5 at a time n if it never shows up again is waste of rss 😂 I'll just let it go then

I just hope same credit goes to next arc too😂

[serene forum]

oh, damm, ziggy is around, better go to my game.

[static wigeon]

I'll be sitting here waiting for the other 1/2 of the Section 31 refit

[scenic summit]

I didn't get credit for one of the sms although it shows I did, missing 1k isoliner chips

[static wigeon]

I can't even load it up right now 😂

[serene forum]

dont, rewards arent getting on my bank.

[static wigeon]

You did all three officers in full?

[serene forum]

nah.im missing 1k isolinear chips

i was smart and did only 1 officer

[static wigeon]

I've got enough to get all three done but not sure it's wise right now...

[delicate estuary]

I did all 3 and am missing my Meta chips anyway

[static wigeon]

I'll hang on then

[iron mica]

5 per day thing is absolute garbage 👍

[silver pike]

🤔

[serene forum]

its 5 per day or just 5 and its done?

[iron mica]

It has a 22h cooldown, I assume it will refresh then.
If it doesnt, whats the point of getting 5 shards lol

[serene forum]

cause i see a timer there

[silver pike]

Timer is set to 24h so who knows what will come up tomorrow 🤷‍♂️

[fathom tangle]

that's the theme this arc: you'll have to guess, and pray you're not wrong!

and no, you'll not get a hint! that'd be too easy!

[celest rover]

This is bs. They said spend the rods and then put out an event that requires u to have some saved up to stop someone from making a mistake in an event

[iron mica]

We dont even know how many isolinear we will get to invest or not into these refits

[serene forum]

scopely knows

[pallid wyvern]

I doubt it

[serene forum]

good point

[silver pike]

No. They said there will be more opportunities to spend them

[iron mica]

This is honestly one of the stupidest things Ive seen event wise since I started playing

[celest rover]

Yes but they said don’t horde them

That you wouldn’t be able to spend them all of you waited too long

[pallid wyvern]

Don't hoard them, but also don't waste them. How do you know what is a waste? thats a scopely secret

[edgy wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/pawpaw-gif-21356606

[worldly kelp]

So what was the point of collecting those intel briefs previously if we can’t even use them. Just another wasted event from scopely

[fathom tangle]

that's why i started spending the ones i had remaining!

[celest rover]

It’s a new mechanic that wasn’t explained before launch. And that Note isn’t on the game Acheron

[pallid wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[soft tulip]

why the 2minute cooldown ? servers cant deal with that much info?

most of the times the way scopely does things is illogical

[neat barn]

correct

[soft tulip]

they need to feed the mice better

[serene forum]

hamsters get tired.

[wispy pike]

So what refits/projectiles are in the store? I only have mats.

[fathom tangle]

cardi gold disruptor, 5 shards

[pallid wyvern]

so if i already bought the disruptor and the salvaged skins with cash money like an imbecile, i get diddly squat now? way to reward the paying players, geniuses

[serene forum]

dont worry, its only 5 shards of each

[pallid wyvern]

oh thats super dumb. couldn't they have at least let me get 5 shards of some of the ones they had in teh store last month?

[rotund dome]

Scopley. Stop stop stop you keep repeating same activities that agitate half your players. Can u create ideas where what I set up to grow and build doesn’t get destroyed or stolen so someone who is lazy can gain and get point from your stupid event?

[pallid wyvern]

#⚡-mod-announcements message
This would have been real interesting and useful information BEFORE THE EVENT STARTED

[raw ibex]

Great work Scopely, putting an announcement out 90 mins after event started 😡😡

[serene forum]

create ideas? one event on incursions come from way back, the raiding event.

[gloomy thorn]

@pallid wyvern wow that would be like the right thing to do, but not the scopely way

[ashen nest]

I think everyone messed up this espionage event

Doesn't scopely know that players don't read

[serene forum]

they count on it

[abstract gate]

why this kind of setup? are they trying to force us to not divide the tokens briefs equally?

[pallid wyvern]

*can't read. FTFY

[abstract gate]

and why giving the hint in the third weak, after we already spent 12 of them?

[fathom tangle]

*are trained not to read. FTFY

[pallid wyvern]

like, to be fair, now the event is explained it actually sounds kinda fun. if they'd prefaced this whole thing with this one paragraph in teh game, i would be kinda excited for this

[sturdy girder]

The note only one can be completed belongs on the top in big letters, it shouldn’t be a foot note.

[neat musk]

its not like scopley are known for making things transparent when they intend too so why expect any thing else

[glacial glen]

Usual total 💩 show from Scopley. Maybe having the information before everyone went and spread their tokens - like you wanted us to do last arc - would have been useful.

[pallid wyvern]

*suffer brain damage from playing this game so they can no longer read. FTFY

[tribal narwhal]

One intel didnt count for me 😦

[fathom tangle]

and in a different colour! to make it clear that it's a game mechanic thing, and not fluff text from ppl who never watched star trek

[pastel yacht]

Me too, used all 6 on one person but only got credit for 5

[tribal narwhal]

Indeed just wrote ticket

[pastel yacht]

Same

Hopefully we'll get an answer before the event is over

[tribal narwhal]

Yes

[serene forum]

isolinear from meta event still not in my storage.

[neat barn]

yes, absolutely

[calm prairie]

Probably won't... scopley support still hasn't responded to my ticket from yesterday...

They are beyond terrible

[pastel yacht]

I assume not too

[ashen nest]

Scopely'd again

[covert palm]

how do you even play the espionage event?

[calm prairie]

You don't... download a different game and say bye bye to STFC

[pastel yacht]

They screwed me out of half a faction hunt when tiering up a brel didn't count and they never got back to me about anything.

[pliant skiff]

Too complicated!

[ashen nest]

I mean why would we read all 6 events in this when it takes 2 minutes to load each one?

[desert laurel]

Do the two non-collaboration events to collect 6x rods, then use those in the event store on ONE officer and you'll finish the other events in the espionage folder.

[primal monolith]

Ok scopely. Your post about ESPIONAGE EVENT should have come out before the event not 2 hours after. Lots of players finished and spent isolinear rods already. But now you explain the event?! Come on. Do better. @pseudo rune this was done poorly for us that didn’t know the purpose of picking just one.

[abstract gate]

why are the isolinear chips rewards so low? we need 24000 for a skin, at 500 for event we need to do 48 events for one skin only

[ashen nest]

Good thing we got a new community manager to make sure these things don't keep happening... oh wait...

[calm prairie]

Scopley's Math... their way of sticking it to the players... 🤷‍♂️

[ashen nest]

about the only good thing to come from our feedback was the refinery change and that is marginally better

[keen citrus]

I think everyone messed up on Espionage Event, me included 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[calm prairie]

It's still terrible 😆

[solemn berry]

Will they consider sending extra rods out because many of us assigned them before this clarification was sent out?

[tribal narwhal]

Some how i done all events get some rewars but i am missing chips now have 3100 chips and i should get 4000 chips

[ashen nest]

Doubt it, since they did put it in the meta event.

[serene forum]

you and a lot more people

[tribal narwhal]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[fathom tangle]

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

[serene forum]

i sent an ticket, but now i have to wait their version of 24h.

[ornate gate]

If Scopely had made the cost 6 rods to commit to an officer, they would’ve avoided all this BS. Players would’ve seen you had to spend all the rods you collected today on just one officer. 🤦‍♂️

[edgy wadi]

Or used the game mechanic they used to “select a faction” to select an officer…

[warped walrus]

This is so stupid I wasted 2 of the rods and can’t complete the event

[keen citrus]

Scopelys idea of communication is like the Stealth Tax. You know it’s there but nobody can find it.

[neat frost]

they prefer talking through Influencers which is aggravating when they have simple info I need fast

[rough frost]

There was also info in game

[neat frost]

Yeah thankfully I read that bit lol

[rough geyser]

Easy way make him a sixpack cost 600 no mistake possible 🤣🍀👍

[north olive]

Easy enough once you read what to do to be fair 😜😅

[rough frost]

You read???

[north olive]

I asked someone else to read it for me

[rough frost]

Gosh, after that you will say you can write 😱

[fathom tangle]

not in this game. it trained me not to 😦

[rough frost]

Your mommy is too sweet

[scenic summit]

Did you get all your rods? I completed it to but didn't get paid man it never ends with scopely

[north roost]

So has there been any clues yet? Or are we blindly guessing?

[rough frost]

Send in a ticket, lot of us didn't get the 1000 rewards of meta

[north olive]

Yeah got everything, was supprised it all worked timely 😅🙈

[abstract gate]

why there are no multiple buy option for the stuff in the store event like last month? asking us to buy 120 shards for a skin (or event 75 for the torpedo) one at a time is definitely not a good thing to do

[desert laurel]

I saw clues in the missions, unusual behavior, and have already targeted one.

[pastel yacht]

Just got credit for my 6th one, only took a couple hours

[desert laurel]

The "good" news is that you can't buy 120 shards, there's a 5x limit on them.

[warped walrus]

It wasn’t the same in the last arc and there is something called UX pattern, you can’t establish one and then rip it off in the next event. This is called brainless User Experience changes

[abstract gate]

wait what?

[rough frost]

I didn't had any problem, I spend my 6 stuff on one officer. It was in the news

[ashen nest]

You mean the news that said "Retrieving" for 2 hours?

[rough frost]

I wait till there weren't retrieving. I don't do anything before reading instruction first, and we had 24h to choose. I never rush

[ashen nest]

Well I guess we should all just be like you

[covert arch]

Still no Rewards for the Collaboration Meta SMS

[ashen nest]

I don't care what anyone says, you aren't going to convince me that fine print is a good way to notify players of game changes to an event that was completed a certain way in the past.

[rough frost]

You send in a ticket?

[ashen nest]

Especially with the lag and the "retrieving" bug

[fathom tangle]

oh, you didn't get the memo that we don't have many chances to spend rods in the future? and that last month, there was a 2-24h cooldown on the event store espionage actions?

[covert arch]

not yet

[pastel yacht]

Mine is still retrieving

[raw owl]

https://tenor.com/view/blues-cluesand-you-blues-clues-gif-14902474

Oh look, a clue

[edgy wadi]

@pseudo rune Things that could have been done better in Espionage event, aside from blaming the players reading:

1. use the faction selection event mechanic to select the officer to investigate
2. require total of 6 rods to investigate one officer
3. remove/hide other two officers after the first rod spend

1 & 2 have been done before so reuse what you have

3 doesn’t seem too hard.

[scarlet dock]

This is happening to everyone, so a ticket seems wasteful. Plus seven days later it wouldnt help much (all my tickets take a week for a response lately). Anyway, everyone I have asked also did not receive the meta rewards.

[rough frost]

Clear loc for the retrieving news, usually clear it

[serene forum]

my ticket is this one 8365330 sent 1h8m ago

[rough frost]

Some player got their rewards. If lot of ticket come for the same pb tho, might help them deal with it sooner

[scarlet dock]

Understood, and will submit - but with how overwhelmed the ticket support team is already, seems this is one thing that is happening enough that a direct message to devs might be better for everyone.

[rough frost]

I know, ticket always my last option. I didn't had the rewards either

[scarlet dock]

Also, being completely honest, I have never had a CS ticket go well for me. It takes 5-7 days for an initial response. And even with screenshot evidence, I get the runaround to the point where I let it go, I dont have time for the aggravation :). Luckily mine have all been somewhat minor things, but still is another scopely issue that needs addressing.

[sudden ledge]

Been scoplied again….. why in the actual fork would you make an event that you have to spend 6 individual times on one thing a minute apart?

[fathom tangle]

because more interactions!

[restive inlet]

I also didn’t get any reward sadly, I wrote a ticket and wait 🤷🏼‍♀️

[covert arch]

because more screentime

[turbid kayak]

Okay, so I’m not the only that didn’t understand the mechanic change on the rods from last event to this one?

[sudden ledge]

Rewards suck donkey rod anyways so no worries

[turbid kayak]

@pseudo rune - how about a gift of rods for those of us that didn’t understand the process… because the rods worked differently last month.

[ashen nest]

Yeah and the mods will have you believe you should have read all of the events "fine print" and the "RETRIEVING" news before hand.

[turbid kayak]

The news that wouldn’t load.

Because lag.

[ashen nest]

ClEaR YoUr lOcAlIzAtIoN CaChE, tHaT WiLl fIx iT

BuT ScOpElY MaDe aN AnNoUnCeMeNt 90 MiNuTeS LaTeR! yOu sHoUlD HaVe wAiTeD

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[turbid kayak]

Will clearing my localization reset the event so I can do it right? Why would they set it up so closely to last month and put a 60s delay on the button when they do that no where else.

[dense moth]

@pseudo rune I didn't read the sms fine print for the espionage event. Can we file a ticket to undo our vote? I can't finish the SMS now

[turbid kayak]

No. It’s your fault they made it complicated.

[opal cave]

it was quite deceiving to change the mechanics of something similar from Part1

[nocturne cave]

https://i.imgur.com/ruzEV6j.png

[opal cave]

and yes - one could have read it, yet still not understanding what is meant by it until it's too late..

[serene forum]

finally, isolinear were delivered

[delicate estuary]

Just to close the loop, it just showed up 2+ hours later

[serene forum]

2h lag, new record

[small horizon]

Quick question, if one had 25 rods left over from last time because they weren’t redeeming them, is there any reason not to investigate all 3 now?

[edgy wadi]

I think the goal was to see which 1 you picked, idk if “picking” all 3 will break things

[fickle sundial]

And honestly who reads missions as your plowing through them and who would actually remember the “clues”

[desert laurel]

The person investigating a spy.

[cinder anchor]

I’m lost in this espionage event. They say use your Isolinear rods to start it. I have zero rods. How can I.

[small horizon]

Yeah that’s my concern as well

[fickle sundial]

So one person out of everyone lol

[rough frost]

Do the 2 event that rewards some. On the left of the tab

[fathom tangle]

i do my best to read them. however, the scripting is so horrible that i'm not sure what might be a clue, and what is down to the writer not ever having watched star trek 🤷‍♀️

[wispy pike]

Still amazed people outside the company defend Scopely's repeated inability to communicate how things work to players before they go live. Luckily, I didn't miss much by doing what they trained me to do for a month since my event store is just mats.

[dense moth]

They could have disabled the other buttons after picking one if you should only vote for one or put warning

[small horizon]

Best “clue” I’ve found is Kira actively sabotages the one thing she is meant to do, obviously she’s the spy 😂.

[wary knoll]

A lot…. A LOT of people on S16 are talking about quitting over these controlling…unclear…lame events. The ppl that push to do events early that did the same thing as last time and refined two of each for espionage are now unable to complete any of the events?? Please compensate so we can finish?? This has soured our server chat, alliance chat and our discord with negativity. You must address…….. RT

[ashen wharf]

you didnt read the event

started spending willy nilly

probably bought the battlepass

spenders usually dont read anything

[wary knoll]

Haha ok?

Thanks for the input

[dense moth]

Yeh, didn't read though. Just looked at the buttons

Buttons must be pressed

[wary knoll]

If that’s all scopely says they can have the game back and I’ll quit, I don’t care anymore

[ashen wharf]

only if the super whales complain but it stated in the event that you chose one

[wary knoll]

It might be better that way anyhow

Why wouldn’t they make it so you choose one then?

They didn’t, they didn’t change anything from the last event and you were just refining stuff

[ashen wharf]

i doubt the whales care about the little bit of basically trash coins that are pretty much worthless anyway for them

[wary knoll]

On the events it says to investigate, that’s it. If you read the fine print it says you’ll have enough to complete one investigation. I guess I’m supposed to take that as select one and only one person and refine six times.

[static wigeon]

In theory you can get another 1000 that way IF Scopely haven't banjaxed it somehow. But you can't get the meta event reward again.

Personally I'm not risking it and will keep my extras for next time

[ornate gate]

Don’t worry everyone, it’s like Scopely says: It’s all three, but it’s still only one.

[ashen wharf]

ngl i dont read those texts much anyway

[wary knoll]

But since the event was recycled and they don’t care… obviously…. Then it’s all good that some ppl are fing unhappy with their stupidity

[nocturne cave]

logic would dictate that if only one path should be followed the other paths should not be open

[ashen nest]

ThE EsPiOnAgE EvEnT DeTaIlS ArE RiGhT HeRe

[small horizon]

Seems prudent, thanks for the insight 👍

[ashen wharf]

they are not worth using anyway

would save them till the last part of the arc

[nocturne cave]

keeping extra will still leave u short on the next try as well

[wary knoll]

Those of you sticking up for Scopely…? Are you bots? The event was unclear unless you read the fine print… that’s fine… the point is the events suck, are still unclear and we should have the opportunity to finish since they didn’t make it a choice in the refine screen

[ashen wharf]

im not sticking up for scopely lol i hate their practice

[hidden peak]

Same on S181

[ashen wharf]

im just saying your folks jumped the gun

and if you've played for the past 3-4 years you would know not to jump the gun

[wary knoll]

@ashen wharf absolutely, I’m always done in the first 10 minutes. I get it. But they need to structure the event differently if you must choose only one… why would they not actually make it a choice?

[ashen wharf]

yeah usually they made you do a join button

but i guess they like to see people get frustrated now

[wary knoll]

Yes… that’s the point. They do it some times but not all the time?? What the heck are they thinking??

[ashen wharf]

makes people end up buying packs

[wary knoll]

Haha

[ashen wharf]

like i save up usually 8-10 months worth of stuff

because i dont trust them enough

[nimble vine]

Welp didnt realize at first I was only supposed to pick one now Im sitting 200 points shy on 1 and 500 points shy on the other 2.

[ashen wharf]

mostly because im not spending another dime on this "game" if i was a app monitoring worker for apple or google scopley would be at risk of getting removed 2 years ago

[serene forum]

no they wouldnt

[ashen wharf]

an app that crashes every 10 minutes should not be able to make money

[ashen wharf]

if there were actual laws to it yes they would

its even in both Mobile carrier dev Terms

i've read them

they shouldnt be apps

[serene forum]

i cant talk more or ill be muted again.

[ashen wharf]

yeah i get what you mean, but if people actually followed policy as a Service they would 🤣

[ashen wharf]

tons of multimillion dollar companys would be freaking out if i was in charge of actually investigating them and following the developer agreements but that is a pipe dream in this era

there's no accountability. just $$$$$

[wary knoll]

Omg! Shatter… that’s hilarious bro.

Hahahahaha. This is making me feel better at least 😆

[main wind]

I’m saving that one!

[wary knoll]

Frickn funny bro

[abstract gate]

Espionage event quiz answers plz

[covert arch]

My collaboration meta rewards finally arrived. Took them just 3 hours

[celest rover]

So because those of us that made a mistake we won’t be able to “progress” further into the investigation?

[ashen nest]

Nailed it

The whole point of everyone complaining is "you should not be able to soft-lock yourself out of completing an event".

[celest rover]

Give us two more rods…. I’d be willing to bet there are a majority of people sitting at 1 1 4 or some combination of that

[versed osprey]

yeah, but you could read instead of rushing in

[ashen nest]

YeAh, BuT YoU CoUlD ReAd iNsTeAd oF RuShInG In

[celest rover]

I didn’t rush. I used the established mechanic of the rods. The announcement for the change in how they would be used needed to come before the event started

[versed osprey]

😂 😂 what's your point? Being childish?

[ashen nest]

That's how I read comments like that.

Defending scopely...

[versed osprey]

it was in the event description that you only have enough for 1

[gloomy thorn]

@pseudo rune how about you make it so lower levels cant do the supply chain cause most cant get to the klingon or romulan areas for the bonuses.. what are you all thinking there? You cant be that stupid at scopely that you almost make it so lower lvls cant do the events yet you put it in there for them, like the boajorain event, they cant even get into the faction store so why give them the events to do.. Which clown is in charge there any ways?

[celest rover]

There are many events that auto complete in this game. I completed two of them before I event realized there was an event to READ

One of them gave me rods

[ashen nest]

You must be one of those paid interns at Scopely

or unpaid, idk

[versed osprey]

guess you are around ops 31 without a amalgam?

[versed osprey]

wow......

[ashen nest]

ikr

[celest rover]

I saw the rods I know what to do with them because of the way they have been used

[edgy wadi]

I’m disappointed in people defending a really poor design. It is simply that, poor. And it needs to be improved on.

[versed osprey]

you think I get money for this?😂

[gloomy thorn]

@versed osprey Not me but some in my alliance are.. I got it done.. but shheesh it amazes me that scopely doesnt use their brains when making these events

[ashen nest]

so unpaid then

[celest rover]

Because of an established mechanic and use. But no let’s change that and then blame the players that didn’t read

[versed osprey]

Im not defending it, your problem is not reading events

[lethal arch]

@pseudo rune thanks for the instructions AFTER the event started. Half the alliance can't complete it now.

[ashen nest]

No it's not my problem, it's a game and even Scopely didn't do enough to make sure the players knew it was a different event than last month. The news is "RETRIEVING" still and they didn't make an announcement until 90 minutes later.

[versed osprey]

but I have to agree with this, they should have announced it sooner

[ashen nest]

https://tenor.com/view/president-not-to-read-elected-simpsons-gif-10792961

[edgy wadi]

You are saying “your” as if it is solely myself. A large portion of the player base has been affected by this. Have some understanding of the experience we have received and acknowledge it isn’t what it should be.

[versed osprey]

there is literally a description at the event that sayd you only have enough for 1 SMS

[gloomy thorn]

@pseudo rune I try to give you all some slack, then you do crap like these events today to screw lower lvl.. not everyone gets free crap from scopley like you do.. and some dont spoend on the game either

[versed osprey]

Im talking to you rn, because you are the one complaining in here

[ashen nest]

It's a footnote on the meta event which nobody reads because we all know it's the event that completes with the other events.

[burnt kernel]

3 hours and still no idea what this is about

[abstract gate]

Right folks let’s keep it civil.

You can be angry without being nasty.

[ashen nest]

Who is being nasty

Oh someone said "crap" my bad

[abstract gate]

I’m not singling anyone out, there’s a few comments that are starting to get a bit pointed.

[gloomy thorn]

@abstract gate sorry but they dont seem to listen or care unless there is pitch forks aimed at them

[abstract gate]

Absolutely not the case

[ashen nest]

Yeah we have to spam lock this channel to get noticed it seems

[edgy wadi]

Im not the only person here with concerns for this event. You popped in with a snarky reply to the masses here that are unhappy with the way this event was structured.

[abstract gate]

All pitchforks does is leave a steaming hot one in the volunteer moderator team’s front yard.

[versed osprey]

all I said was is read before rushing in

[gloomy thorn]

@abstract gate duck faster lol

[lethal arch]

https://tenor.com/view/uprising-village-angry-grab-pitch-forks-gif-16568046

[abstract gate]

No, cos I just bang slow mode on and you start complaining about that instead 🤣

[gloomy thorn]

@versed osprey I read that and still screwed it up.. I dont blame scopely for my stupidity, but the event where they make it hard for lower lvls is all on them

[neat barn]

tbf, this is like the 4th or 5th discord down on scopes priority list

if that high

[versed osprey]

you mean the 31's getting 10M milestones because they supposed to have amalgam? yeah that's stupid

[abstract gate]

They could do it the way I did 😬

[versed osprey]

its their main dc

[rough frost]

👀

[abstract gate]

Robbed amalgams 🤣

[versed osprey]

what way is that?

[unkempt cedar]

Why did you not set it up so that when we picked the first officer the other two simply disappeared

[versed osprey]

😂

[rough frost]

Not everyone is a thief HD lol

[abstract gate]

That’s the million dollar question.

[neat barn]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

[abstract gate]

Their loss.

Literally.

[versed osprey]

its weird, you also get points for spending that plundered cargo

[rough frost]

Hey I hunt oc!!

Like once per quarter.

[gloomy thorn]

@versed osprey the one person iso deal, i read where is said do one and you can finish it, then tried to do all 3.. the lower having to get 10 million is all on them hahaha

[fathom tangle]

alternate option: send out 2+ ships into hostile faction space, let them grind the next few hours, play something else in the meantime 😉

[ashen wharf]

im sure you could back track far enough that everyones a thief in history

[stuck geode]

do things in the bejor store get more expensive or cheaper with higher rep?

[abstract gate]

I am as perplexed as you guys, we have had “pick a side” events plenty times where you “bought in”, no idea how we got here. All I can do is ask, just in a quieter place than you 🙂

[unkempt cedar]

You can’t pick a side when there are three options

[lethal arch]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-angry-mad-black-snake-moan-samuel-l-jackson-gif-17424729

Ask with vengeful eyes

[ashen wharf]

what do you think if every other one gets more expensive

[versed osprey]

only problem I have is that there haven't been any clues, haven't seen any in the missions at least, so we are basically supposed to gamble on the right one this month because after the 3rd week we may get a hint

[abstract gate]

Well I don’t see it that way.

[ashen wharf]

the BJ faction store so far looks like a 4 year to complete thing

and no i wont stop saying BJ

[abstract gate]

I see it that whichever way you go you get clues, having contacts that go “a different way” will yield equal results.

[restive inlet]

Is there no g3/4/5 auction event for the epic offi this arc? Only read spend directives

[abstract gate]

You “pick” at the end I think - but don’t quote me. I’ve had no more than you 🤣

[tame timber]

@pseudo rune How are we suppose get these espionage 18 isolinear rods in 24 hours to finish collaboration sms events when we get 3 isolinear rods per day and used those last month's already???

[edgy wadi]

You could maybe read instead of rushing in 😜

[abstract gate]

You only do one event of the three.

[versed osprey]

that really doesn't apply here

[rough frost]

You get 6 in tonight event, enough to pick one

[tame timber]

But it asking for 6 and I only got 3 in that time frame

[ashen wharf]

theres two events that give 3 each

[versed osprey]

there are 2 events where you get 3 each

[abstract gate]

What he said.

There’s two events

[rough geyser]

Next time a new armada token is desperadly wanted put them please into the battlepass normal token nice solo token WOW

[keen citrus]

Do you think anything will be done about this Espionage Event mess?

[silver pike]

It’s a mess?

No it’s fine.

😬

[rough mist]

yes just learn to read better

[fathom tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[keen citrus]

I mean the mess with people using the rods on all 3 officers.

[silver pike]

What’s it a mess about though? If you don’t know who the spy is you still have an equal chance for the rewards in December

[abstract gate]

I don’t know. I want to try and be delicate about it but the mess is largely people steaming in a bit quick, not reading the event and assuming it’s the same beforehand. I don’t agree with how “trap” it feels but… pace yourself and read is important in everything in this game.

[silver pike]

You lose like 1.5k iso rods. Not a big deal

[abstract gate]

Yeah, this is short term low value reward pain today.

[rare verge]

Remember arc 1 they said spread it across all 3 so surprise surprise everyone did the same again🤔🤔

[abstract gate]

This ain’t part one… 🙂 but yeah, I don’t like how this feels.

[rare verge]

It’s not part one I get that but a pattern was formed

[sage minnow]

yeah so if you accidentally spread out on the investigations there is no way to complete the series of events, right?

[rare verge]

Correct

[sage minnow]

I instinctively spread out first 3 investigations on 3 different officers, as usual...now seems like I'll be short 1 investigation to complete first of the series

[rare verge]

This is my point ☝️

[sage minnow]

seriously, with all the lags and all it's not usual for Scopely to force us to read everything...these feel a bit cheapted

[bronze hull]

The sad thing is - if people ignored scopely's communications in the first arc and had a stockpile of rods, they'd have no problem now if they ignored instructions. If people paid attention to the instructions in both arc 1 and 2, they'd also have no problem. It's only the people that took in information from last arc but didn't take in information from this arc who are having issues.

[ornate gate]

The mess is also largely Scopely not seeing the obvious failure states possible in this event.

[sage minnow]

yeah felt a bit cheated to be honest

[rare verge]

@bronze hull in reality Scopely communication is ****

[sage minnow]

they should have it the way before, where you have to complete first clue before you UNLOCK 2nd one

[silver pike]

Well you can balance the table

1.5k isolinear rods Vs not knowing who the spy is and maintaining the balance you have so whoever it is in December the rewards will be similar

[sage minnow]

not trying to use any excuse, but their sporadic communication and constant lag don't make this easy to follow

[edgy wadi]

It was text instructions vs UX design… this is not good programming.

[silver pike]

It was communicated in the event and I believe the IGN about how the event worked

[fathom tangle]

the communication was: "you'll have few opportunities to spend rods next event"; we were trained that the espionage event store has 2-24h cooldown; we need 6 intel each, and we need to sleep at some point. yeah, i'll get my first batch in asap! 🤪

[edgy wadi]

Designs exist and have been used for “choices” before and for some reason it was opted to choose with the ability to have players get stuck by not following 100%

[ashen wharf]

they added incursions and basically said F your choices

[sage minnow]

certainly didn't expect instant cooldowns

[ornate gate]

Scopely would design a traffic intersection with out lights or stop signs, and they’d be genuinely surprised when the cars started crashing.

[grave tartan]

The only cooldown time I got for the Event was 23 hours

[sage minnow]

yeah so silly me it was instant cooldown and you can keep buying it again and again to complete the investigations for first clue

like I was supposed to know that...I thought it was a 24-hr cooldown too

[grave tartan]

It never gave me that option, just the 23 hours

[scarlet gyro]

so does someone know now whats t he deal with only 5 shards for either a skin for ships or weapon? will it refresh or is it really just 5 shards and nothing more?

[rough geyser]

Was a good joke did my first 3 pulled 1st it disapear did 2nd it disapear did 3rd gone too no more pulls possible then got me next 3 pulled 1rst .... a timer shows up good work

[bronze hull]

it'll refresh for future runs this month, there hasn't been official confirmation if these options will be available in future months as well

[leaden spoke]

Scopley... i say it again... you are 💩

[scarlet gyro]

oh jeez so we can have really bad luck and are stuck with 5 shards and less iso rods for basically nothing then as we dont know if we will get the full 75 shards

[leaden spoke]

If 99% of players make this wrong... maybe the mistake is at scopley?

[wispy pike]

Half the time when you read things they're not correct anyway.

[paper venture]

Got a mission one ways to score is Bajoran favors to bad below level 35 got left out in the cold again.

[primal charm]

I got screwed again

[rough frost]

Bajoran is more for op 40+ really. It's another stella loop.

[bronze hull]

True. At the same time, the limit on these is low enough that it doesn't seem plausible you'd be able to get a full unlock if you skipped one of the infrequent opportunities to pick up shards - so I guess it depends on whether you think the odds of Scopely not adding alternate options without a limit/cooldown are greater than the odds of Scopely not adding continued opportunities to collect up to 5 shards.

[gentle cobalt]

new solo armada are to strong for lvl34- ships this is reason why lower level can not participate in this arc, and I think until lvl40 also is problematic if you do not have more decent lvl34 ships, why das not exist armadas for this lower ship in power I do not know

[rough frost]

Yes. And it's a loop that need lot of time. I wouldn't advise my low player to spend much time on it until they are bigger. There enough loop like that mid op 30

[austere fiber]

anyone else have Bajoran favors disappear from faction store? Got prophets reward and prophets prize vanished.......not sure if I should try to get another or more might vanish

[hallow ember]

I am seriously hoping this is going to change. There are a total of 3 things outside of some overpriced mats to purchase and all 3 of them are limited to 5 shards each.

[gentle cobalt]

there is 4 also exist for d4 but also is limit to 5

[young pike]

There’s a timer after I bought 5

HEY SCOPELY can we get some information on this

[hallow ember]

The event runs 24 hours each with 3 runs, but I guess pooling your resources for a useful unlock is out of the question as it stands.

[fathom tangle]

no. the overarching theme is "keep the players guessing and don't give them any useful info!"

[sage minnow]

I hope there will be plenty of folks complain to SCOPELY about how the espionage events are rolled out today. It is impossible to take back a 'mistake' once you have taken the steps of spread-out evenly on investigation that Scopely recommended in the past before you realize you're doomed to complete the events.

[hollow arch]

how can you read when you have retrieving for an hour

again no respect for players

seems really really time for uninstall this game

2nd event i can't do since this new pass started

[timid nebula]

It says limit 5 above it

[young pike]

But it didn’t disappear like usual

Normally when there’s a limit the pack goes away after

Instead there’s a timer

[rough frost]

Probably because it will be available again tomorrow or later. But pack with limit don't always disappear

[fathom tangle]

the cow alliance store packs don't, either

[grand belfry]

so if i accidently did 1 of the 6 investigations on the wrong collaboration event, how screwed am I?

[fathom tangle]

on a scale of 1 to 10? "yes" 😬

unless you have spare rods from last month

[grand belfry]

Well I guess it just means I will miss out on the 1000 rods from the meta SMS

[rough frost]

You are loosing 1500 event store credit. Nothing awful, but not good either

[grand belfry]

er right... 1500 😢

[elder gyro]

Limit 5 is outrageous

Especially with it being 75

5×300=1500 75x300=22500

We got the Christmas one cheaper

[granite bramble]

So dumb espionage event setup , horrible

[hollow arch]

time they fire out the new scopely ops manager

[granite bramble]

I even paid attention and clicked wrong one needed sisco and clicked one kira and now can't Finnish event

[main sinew]

Just fire the entire scopely team, and start from scratch

[hollow arch]

<@&509691205798592532> think you can get scopely ops to help out those that did the mistake ?

[granite bramble]

Half my alliance did it seems so prob a lot of people lol

[hollow arch]

yeah just give a chest with 5 to all players and done

[meager galleon]

@hollow arch there is most likely room for the mistake anyhow

[granite bramble]

Event done at reset tomorrow so a chest would be needed with at least 2 for me , 3 for many . And looks like it's a stacking event in Parts where the person you pick matters for next event

Or I read it wrong

[hollow arch]

is also my understanding you don't pick you are screwed up

[left moth]

Seems like the event is designed not to be completed, I spotted the need to buy 6 of the same and did that but only 5 counted so my event is not complete.

[alpine portal]

I did also wrong. A lot did.
Stupid event. Boring event.

[knotty echo]

Same here, I've brought 6 of each but I'm missing 2 sets, so I guess it's going to have to be a ticket to support for missing rewards 🙄

[paper venture]

Hell if I remember Rev deuce video right he even talked about spreading them out.

[knotty echo]

Seems support heard me without a ticket so hopefully it's just severe lag for everyone

[rough frost]

There was 6 rods in tonight event, enough to choose one spy and finish the meta event.

If you used leftover rod to half complete the 2 other, there no error. You weren't supposed to do the 3

[hexed gorge]

I did the split, 2 against each, never realised until after the retrieving went away on the notice board

[ocean copper]

The Espionage events can not be finished. Why run events that don’t provide sufficient pay outs to complete the events prior to their expiry?!

[bronze hull]

It means today you can only afford the limit of the projectile and one of the skins, instead of the projectile and two of the skins plus a little left over.

[grave tartan]

Does it matter who you choose? i've seen no clues on how to choose

[ocean copper]

I don’t know if it matters. But you cannot complete the event. They don’t give enough loot.

[silver pike]

You can only pick 1 of 3 officers which there is enough to do so

[cobalt flare]

Thanks to players who suggested I needed to go after a level 50 Domada.

[ocean copper]

Yes, you’re right. My apologies. I was looking at the wrong event, I mistook the Meta score. You need 6 rods and that’s what you win.

[rough frost]

Good job 😊 I can only kill a 48 for now

[clever ibex]

I have the same issue.

[clever ibex]

Hey

Would it be possible to reset the rods selection? It seems many have mistaken in that event by using rods for more that one character

[silver pike]

Question for Eco. Sorry I don’t know the answer

But I expect the answer to be no

[main spindle]

Are the event store items going to get better cuz the way i see it now we won't get anything out of the event store with a limit of 5 pulls per item

[silver pike]

Since whichever way you chose it was intended

[clever ibex]

<@&509691611903426561> @pseudo rune

Hey

Would it be possible to reset the rods selection? It seems many have mistaken in that event by using rods for more that one character

[clever ibex]

It seems that many made that mistake, so its clear that there is something not 100% clear

[silver pike]

Other than the announcement on here. It is also stated in the event descriptions and I think the IGN

I can’t fault going on what the event was last month. But reading the descriptions is always helpful

[grand belfry]

you mean the Retrieving News...🤣

[main spindle]

Ultimate DJ posted something on it this morning as well

[clever ibex]

Still, the fact remains that many made that mistake. So its not like we all are mindless automatons

[lethal arch]

The announcement came hours after the event started. So...

[solid reef]

Tons of folks have botched the event because it was confusing

[knotty echo]

I had leftovers because I kept forgetting to spend them last time

[glossy marlin]

The days of blaming user error is long outdated, it’s bad UX design that allows the users to make mistakes! Design to avoid any mistakes - also any decent testing would have raised this too.

[clever ibex]

@silver pike

All we ask is that you guys reset the rods count. Allowing people to complete the sms

[hushed owl]

Requiring six rods at once to unlock the next step would have entirely avoided the problem.

[clever ibex]

Agreed

[raw ibex]

The announcement came 90 minutes after the event had already started and the IGN was stuck on “retrieving” 🤷‍♀️

[silver pike]

Were the event descriptions stuck on retrieving as well?

Honest question

[main spindle]

@raw ibex that's y u need to pay attention to content creators discord announcements

I saw DJ announcement on it and did it the way we're supposed to

[raw ibex]

Given the amount of people all complaining about the exact same thing suggests that maybe it should have been made clearer ahead of the event 🖖

[glossy marlin]

It says something when a content creator gives more information than the official game creator! Also, more people are on this discord than the CCs own ones.

[sacred gale]

It was in the event description and self-explaining when someone would have checked the scoring of the events.
People are too lazy to actually read events and then complain 💁‍♂️

[tacit radish]

People need to stop assuming content creator material and their discord channels are a prerequisite to playing the game... It's there to enhance the user experience

[clever ibex]

Lets agree to disagree

[sacred gale]

I disagree to that 😛

[rare hawk]

should have been 3 tickets each so couldn't be screwed up

[frozen hinge]

mouhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa (laugh demon )

[rare hawk]

wasnt available when i done

[ivory tide]

Do you know which one is the imposter or just a hunch? 😄

[sly shuttle]

Are the two recruit slb events just for avatars?

[frozen hinge]

I read somewhere that an episode of ds9 answered the question.. now will scopely follow the same path? ( a clone story...)

[ornate geyser]

Which tells you…the event is intentionally a mistake honey pot.

[turbid kayak]

You need to recognize that you “trained” people on a specific workflow last month. You then changed the workflow and didn’t put controls in place to prevent errors. You’re a developer, you should already know that most people don’t read the manual. When most of something looks like something else, pattern bias kicks in and even people reading directions will not process correctly.

Or was the intent to mess up a bunch of players? Because the way you all are hiding behind the “it was in the description” answer makes it sound more like a “let’s screw with the players and punk them hard”

[ivory tide]

Let's hope so. They said more clues will follow but I rarely read mission part so, if they hid a clue there.. I am $crewed 😄

[meager galleon]

NB (Mods) are not Scopely Btw

[turbid kayak]

Thanks for clarifying. He was asking dev focused question.

[meager galleon]

We can provide feedback through private channels so he was probably wanting the info for that purpose

[turbid kayak]

Maybe take my feedback then please?

[gusty slate]

Hmm, it was clear here at release you had only enough to investigate one person and the announcement was done an hour and a half into reset.

[nova valley]

the instructions are pretty clear. both here and in game. i also posted them for our community as well. for someone as well versed on workflows as you are, i would presume you're also familiar with documentation? and instructions?

[sacred gale]

We are playing the same game. It took me one minute realise what to do.
"People are too lazy to read" is just a lazy excuse

[gusty slate]

This wasn’t like Loyalty to the Resistance, where early players were screwed over on points and then had to expend additional resources to finish.

[turbid kayak]

Did you not read that part of my comment? When a workflow looks similar to a trained workflow MANY (not all) will try the workflow they know before going to documentation.

[nova valley]

wowzers. cause the FIRST 4 cards of the event looked absolutely NOTHING like it did last month. so, that in and of itself may have prompted a player to say 'hmmm, this IS different... maybe i should stop and think for a second.....'

[turbid kayak]

There’s human behavior and there’s error controls that could have been put into place. If you can only pick one, why set up a scenario where someone could make a mistake and buy one of each?

It’s almost like it was intentionally set up to cause people to make mistake.

[nova valley]

because there's still strategy there. but it will cost you. perhaps you aren't solid on your pick. perhaps you don't know who it is yet, and you STILL want to diversify your december rewards. then split em up. no harm no foul. all it costs you today is 1500 chips. that's LITERALLY it. so don't panic. you diversified. fine. it can STILL be played that way. but there's 1500 extra chips if you THINK you have it figured out.

[rough frost]

Because you don't have to pick one. Except for the meta. You can still chose to spread 33/33/33 and forego 1500 rods thzt are not much to secure December store

[turbid kayak]

If you aren’t solid on your pick then your still screwed, because there’s no way to back out a pick or to complete the event now.

[rough frost]

And dj was quickier 😂

[nova valley]

who says it's a mistake? if i banked everything into one officer, and i'm WRONG in december. and you spolit them evently EVEN this month, you'll still make more reward than i.

there is CHOICE here. that was what was given.

[nova valley]

who cares? it's 1500 chips. it's like. not even an amount that matters. lol if you diversified your pics, then sit back and chuckle at yourself for 'beating' scopely at it's own game. in december. you will still have 33% odds on picking the winner

which is better than some players who bank all in on the WRONG officer this month. multiple ways to look at it.

[turbid kayak]

So, what you’re saying is that not completing a 6 vote on one person does not mean a DQ from the future event. It just means you don’t get 1500 rods?

[nova valley]

and at the end of the day. none of it still matters. so you lost 1500 chips toay. now you know for next time. at least it wasn't something big, like, an unlock of an officer or soething crazy.

[nova valley]

1500 CHIPS. not rods.

[rare hawk]

agree

[nova valley]

and no. it does not mean a DQ on any future events.

[rare hawk]

just badly designed

[nova valley]

you just missed your meta today.

[sacred gale]

What does "DQ" stands for?

[turbid kayak]

Disqualified

[rare hawk]

Dairy Queen

[nova valley]

and i don't think it was badly designed. it was actually designed better than anyone is giving credit for because it gives you choice.

[nova valley]

and i said it DID NOT disqualify. why are you arguing? lol

[rare hawk]

some of us are at work

[hushed owl]

Wow. That's a lot of confusion for something that doesn't really matter. Which indicates that you've got a second problem: people still think it matters, and the fact that it doesn't has been very poorly communicated.

[rare hawk]

with people bugging us

[nova valley]

oh ffs. lmao

[turbid kayak]

I’m satisfied with the answers. Thanks @nova valley

[nova valley]

so wait. it's a bad design cause it "penalized you" but now that you REALIZE it doesn't penalize you it's still 'bad design?"

seriously lmao

[nova valley]

anytime broski!

[hushed owl]

Yes, because all the people who thought they were penalized were wrong. Think how much of your time would have been saved if that had never happened!

[raw ibex]

I’m just upset that I can’t complete the sms today…..it’s driving my ocd crazy

[rare hawk]

it was kira right she was only spy

[dense gale]

Why can't I use my new iso linear chips to unlock my projectile skins from the last event? I'm 5 shards short, and I've got them now. Ready to get my temporal torpedo skin.

[nova valley]

ahhhh. it's all good. if i didn't have you maniacs in discord, i'd just be itting here grinding rep. almost as miserable 😉 hahahaha

[meager galleon]

@turbid kayak I kindve agree with you 🤫

[nova valley]

the event store items were shuffled, as they told us they would be. they are no longer available.

[rough frost]

Grind my rep too please

[hollow arch]

Events was retrieving I got the rewards on first event 30min after reset, saw the rewards went into the store then when I got 2nd done discovered the problem, then came here and saw the announcement

[nova valley]

ugh.

[rough frost]

Pretty please?

[dense gale]

@nova valley , well that's a horrible deal..

[gusty slate]

Well, you didn’t read the event. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[drowsy garden]

So , how exactly does this work, bank on one officer and hope for the best? It’s confusing at best

[hollow arch]

Communication never been their best we have to accept it or leave

[gusty slate]

Basically, go with who you think is the spy. 1 in 3 chance.

[drowsy garden]

Okay, just a gamble then ?

[hollow arch]

Well hard to read event that sticks on retrieving for an hour

[gusty slate]

Wasn’t retrieving on me. I was able to read it from the beginning. Only the news release was stuck for me.

[rough frost]

Until today I spread 33/33/33. To maximise chance because I have no idea who is the spy and don't like betting. Today I choosed miles, because it don't like the idea of having faction recruit credit but not enough to use any 😅 miles was totally random tho

[meager galleon]

I choose Miles because his Art Work is a crime.

[sacred gale]

When I understood it correctly, we can still spend it on the other officers on the next days to still keep it even.
So I will continue with the spreading strat ^^

[rough frost]

Event will last till December, so a bad choice one day won't hurt much

[hollow arch]

This is the latest news that came in

[meager galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/terry-jeffords-terry-crews-crime-criminal-arrested-gif-12498024

[rough frost]

Yes it was my though too.

[drowsy garden]

I say Miles is guilty, even if he isn’t… he is the character most resembling The Butler and yes his artwork is entirely criminal 🤣🤣

[main spindle]

Whats this new retrieving message supposed to be for

[sacred gale]

I've restarted the client. It's only the patch notes

[fathom tangle]

and why is it 2 days old? 😦

[nova valley]

while you CANNNNNN. i woudln't recommend that moving forward. now you know how it works.

[main spindle]

That's a good question to

[sacred gale]

I meant I will spread over the events, not during one event.
I actually read them and invested only in one officer today 😄

[main spindle]

Ok then y are we getting it 2 days later

[rough frost]

He choose miles today, kira tomorrow. .. So still spreading but differently

It's what I m planning too 😅

[prime warren]

Sitting on tons of tokens, mats and xp(trait, officer, ship) since we've been conditioned to save. Now with less event calendar transparency it is increasingly frustrating to even bother with events IF I'm not going to spend them. Scopely created this conditioning and now is not making it clear if this is still a viable method to make in-game progress. How long before we either use them on something worthy, start using them regardless of events OR quit the game in general for lack of activity/progress.

[fathom tangle]

considering i can't play the slb game anymore (at least for almost all events), i'm spending them on sms events. works for me for now 🤷‍♀️

[clever ibex]

But you'll lose the sms meta rewards

[sacred gale]

No, as I said. Spreading over the events, not during one event. So it's evenly over days

[prime warren]

Yea, I'll occasionally spend enough to complete the sms or even complete the Daily Event SMS for officer xp, recruits and research...but honestly those are few and far between and still end up with quite a bit to burn/spend on what would normally be SLBs

[glacial mauve]

0 hints and scopely expects us to choose...

[prime warren]

It runs 3 times. Pick a different officer each time, you'll get 1 of them right at the least.

[glacial mauve]

that makes it a stupid event now doesnt it

[rough frost]

There was hint. In missions last month. If you watched DS9 show. Some people already choosed a spy

[glacial mauve]

i checked all the mission dialog and there was no hint in there

[sacred gale]

I did not watch it yet. I may should binge it until tomorrow 🤣

[glacial mauve]

only thing i noticed how they keep shutting obrien

[rough frost]

I didn't watch it and don't plan to, so I m spreading my rods 😂

[prime warren]

I don't care to find the hint. Knowing this game/scopely the reward is NOT worth the time invested. Pick 1 officer each week and it's easy. Otherwise feel free to read the dialogue/reference the show.

[dense ocean]

ufff, I hope so 😄
#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[glacial mauve]

problem is this game is not even close to referencing actual star trek

[prime warren]

Which goes back to my first sentence, I don't care to find the hint 😂

[pearl sphinx]

How do you complete the collaboration events?

[rough frost]

You do the two others event first, to get the 6 rods in rewards.

Then you use the 6 rods for ONE of the collaboration event.

[pearl sphinx]

I got the 6 rods, spent them and only have 500 points 😦

[rough frost]

Choose kira, miles or sisko

You sure you didn't spend one on the wrong officer?

You have a screenshot?

[pearl sphinx]

Yeah, that's what I did. I spend 5 on 1 and 1 on the other

[spare perch]

youre supposed to spend all on the same, its a pretty silly event

[pearl sphinx]

It is pretty stupid...

[rough frost]

Ha no luck

Don't worry, it's not much lost overall, just a bad luck day . It won't hurt the rest of the event

[pearl sphinx]

The event seems pretty lackluster anyways. Add 10 new currencies and 1-2 hours of grinding everyday. Just what was ordered lol

[spare perch]

the bajoran favours are pretty decent, but yeah, its too much.

[sullen yarrow]

You need to do 1000 Klingon or Romulan hostiles to finish the antics event?

[frosty thunder]

Each supply ship gives you 9000 plunder cargo

[weak copper]

Use your amalgam in the no-rep Klingon or Rom systems

Hit the traders. But activate the plunder exo before you leave your base

[ashen wharf]

not alot of people have amalgams

• you are forgetting they someone have new people and servers

🤣

[weak copper]

Its been in cosmic clean up for ages now 🤷‍♂️

[ashen wharf]

theres apparently alot of servers just added this year so not many could be there yet

[indigo herald]

how is this event done

[cyan folio]

Imagine making a game event and not explaining it to players. Who would do that?

[plain flint]

2022 seems thats the story

[sullen yarrow]

@weak copper thank you

[warm tiger]

I don't see any material spend events(ore,gas,crystal) in this Battle Pass. Did I miss something or do I not need to hoard materials for a SLB/SMS this time around?

[main spindle]

This is a piss poor excuse for a event store how we supposed to get anything when there's a limit of 5 on it when u need 120 shards for the skin

Bring back last months event store at least there was no limit on them

[oblique coral]

The limit is per day.

[main spindle]

Y even have a limit then

If it's going to refresh every day then y have a limit unless they plan on changing the event stores items every day in which case no one will get any thing out of it

@oblique coral im not wasting the currency without a guarantee im going to unlock a item for what i spend

[oblique coral]

I don't know. I have a different event store because I own those skins already I think. But when I got my 5 shards of this, it shows a cooldown timer. So I can get more tomorrow.

[ashen wharf]

you missed the timer above it lol

[main spindle]

Cool down timer dont mean nothing when the timer above shows the offer ends before the cool down timer is over@oblique coral

[oblique coral]

yeah that's fair.

last month the things in here were constant though. I am assuming they still will be.

but I guess we'll find out.

[ornate geyser]

120 shards at 5 per day will take longer than the arc will run.

[main spindle]

If maybe the <@&509691611903426561> or the devs can confirm what the intent of the event store will be then maybe I'll spend the currency

[ornate geyser]

It’s Kira.

[thin glen]

Ever had one of those super annoying professors who makes the last question of the exam "write down your favorite color and leave all other answers blank"? That's this event. I hated that professor.

[rough mulch]

When's Ascend Event ???

[odd orchid]

Every Friday, for ops 39.

[rough mulch]

Ty !!!

[paper venture]

Scopley.

[icy panther]

Why was a 60 second timer put on turn ins for Investigations? That 60 second timer is not normal. The only likely result of that 60 second timer is to make players MORE likely to click a different option for their next turn in, thus not being able to finish the event. I would appreciate a response from Scopely on why this not normal 60 second timer was put into place. Was it to make more players fail? Was it a troll device? What was the purpose?

[upper stream]

Normally I would be all over blaming Scopely, but in this case it's not their fault players can't or don't want to pay attention to an event mechanic. The only reason they put a timer on it at all is to help prevent server congestion.

[plain flint]

Another the infornation in this game, is either late or never. If it was A +++ be different

And previously which wasnt communicated further months , save or spend the rods !!

Information is gold, lack of is just bad planning.

[verbal cloak]

This sadistic bait and switch espionage event is so far beyond the typical miserly trickery we’re used to. This one is a whole order of magnitude above the usual sadism.

I disagree - the way it was laid out made it look like you only had 3 options.

We’re busy people and respectfully there are so many hoops to jump through for this game, that you just don’t have time to deeply research each little event that pops up. I mean this new arc has a whole new territory, new faction etc - on top of the new station research - new armadas (solo). Etc etc etc.

[ashen wharf]

its all the old stuff bundled in one

and its the slowest mechanic could take 2-3 years to finish IF YOU play everyday

[verbal cloak]

Add to that everything you have to do for daily, rep, scouts, all the different kinds of mining - minerals (3 types and 3/4/5 star), CLat lat, data, mycelium, 3 types of iso, mantis (if you have one - I don’t yet), etc etc. All the hostile hitting (daily, parts, borg/ViDar, Franklin/Swarm, rogue/Stella bp drops, plunder, multiple events (like heavy hitter), then new ones like hitting ships in bjoran space for the cargo. Then various events. Then all the various armadas (standard, eclipse, now cardassian, and bjoran etc etc)… I have to say, on balance, the way it was designed, seems to have been deliberate and calculated to me.

• If they do compensate - it should be only those that didn’t get the rewards or it’s meaningless

[dense moth]

Sucks to lose out on 1500 credits, but atleast it runs two more times. Fool me once,... Eco doesn't seem to reply to this issue so I'm guessing they don't care or won't do anything about it.

[rotund talon]

Not discounting what you're saying, but you can mitigate the borg one by investing in 10/11's traits for the Borg ATA

[warped walrus]

Actually it is scopelys fault if the event mechanic wouldn’t get out of ‘Retrieving’ It’s not the players fault who is simply following an established UX pattern from last month.

[leaden spoke]

It would be so easy: the moment you spent first credits the other two get blocked.... but hey... maybe you can buy some pack soon and make scopley more rich?

[abstract gate]

Having a blonde early morning moment, where have the rare solo armarda tokens gone?

[silver pike]

I’m not a Dev. I’m a community volunteer, my role is to moderate discord.

[silver pike]

Ops 40+

[abstract gate]

Oh jeez 🙈

[abstract gate]

Ta tho 😎

[abstract gate]

Sup playa

[leaden spoke]

Iso zählt nicht als geplünderte fracht? Sorry scopley... die beschreibung des events ist wie immer: 💩💩💩

[wintry cypress]

Geplündert Fracht ist der Name eines items. Und das bekommst du nur in den Amalgam Systemen.

Die Beschreibung passt da schon 😉

[leaden spoke]

Fracht ist für mich das, was ich im Laderaum habe... aber ok.

[silver pike]

Your welcome

[wise jetty]

Well this solo armada event is a joke and scopley can shove it.

[wintry cypress]

In den events steht immer was genau du plündern musst, wenn du was plündern musst. Also dil, iso latinum was weiß ich.
Hier steht geplünderte Fracht. Selbes Prinzip. Du musst geplünderte Fracht plündern. Nix anderes

[clever ibex]

Boldly go where no man has gone before

@pseudo rune

Is something going to be done about this botched espionage event?

[sour lotus]

So does it come back? Do i need to spend my credits now and hope it will? Or do i wait till i have all credits, but cant spend it due to cooldown? Or it doesnt come back and i waste my credits now. Or it comes back with different price?

Why do you do such things so overly complicated for the players? @pseudo rune

[fathom tangle]

why? with all the people complaining, it's obviously very engaging content! the metrics don't lie!
tbh, that's kinda the core problem these days, leadership is never wrong. "nobody complains? just shows how flawless our vision was!" "some people complain? you always get some haters!" "people are leaving in droves? what's their problem? can't they see our glorious vision? we need to communicate it better!" 😬

[finite leaf]

I thought it was just me. Then I found that many of my alliance members screwed up the espionage event. Now I find it’s more global. It does seem a bit intentional, the way the changed the event mechanics. They could have just locked the other options once you placed rods into one suspect. If not intentional, very sloppy interface mechanics that have confused and ticked off a lot of players.

[tired quartz]

Lots on our alliance made the same mistake although We had one alliance member who made the mistake but as they had not spent last arcs rewards managed to claim all three completely (not that we aren’t happy for the outcome) 😳

[bitter snow]

There was no benefit in going for one of each on this case, because you'd just end up with parts of the recruit chest pull instead of a full one, and no guarantee that there'd be more of them later (I'm certainly not burning faction credits on them), so while I'd have preferred to do balanced, it just made more sense to get a handful of Leslie and Moreau shards by putting it all into Kira for me. 😐

[cunning radish]

To make you scared into buying things

[verbal cloak]

Applause 👏- So true.

[verbal cloak]

Believe me, you’re not alone Major, the majority fell for the trap from what I can see. Which is why $copely is so busy backpedaling. Everyone’s talking to each other about it in PMs as they don’t want to appear stupid. It was funny, the second I posted about it in my alliance warning others about it, there was a deluge of “me too”. Lol

[hard oxide]

to be fair to them, the event literally has a line that says 'you will only get the mats to complete 1 investigation'

[sacred lantern]

#MeeToo

[fathom tangle]

in the basement. in a locked cabinet, in an unused lavatory, with a sign "beware the leopard!" 😉

[hard oxide]

yeah, it could probably have done with being at the top of the event description instead of the bottom to highlight it

[torpid light]

Thanks, your posts here explain it much clearer than scopley ever had. I just wish they would improve their comms. An in game message an hour before event reset yesterday that explained the options as you describe and the pros and cons so players could make an informed decision would go so far.
I went all in one officer as that’s what the event required but it was just a shot in the dark, and I kinda wish I’d spread it around.
When the event runs later in the arc can I choose a different officer or am I fixed now?

[abstract gate]

I don't see them blocking us to choose a different officer in every run, simply because this would require more work on their side to implement, we will probably be presented with both 3 officers in the event store every week

[ripe jungle]

Coming to this late, but I’m feeling a bit confused reading through this discussion. I’ve been thinking I can still spread evenly even though I went all-in on one officer this week like it said, because there are two more of these this month and I can simply pick the other two officers for those weeks? Or does my pick here affect what events I get next week?

[abstract gate]

I knew they would stuff up DS9, Ive been playing since official launch, didnt have augment, swarm etc.
Have progressed through them all.
For years i have eagerly awaited a DS9 arc and the possibilities it brings....
I just dont understand whatever the heck this is.

They are trying to bring too much to the table K.I.S.S

[rough frost]

From what I understood, yes you can choose any of the others next week's, and keep spreading if you don't want to bank on one specific officer. It's what I plan. Me no like risks 😅

[ripe jungle]

If that’s the case the people who spread them this week simply lost the meta rewards this week, they don’t get any benefit come December

[ionic horizon]

It's all so confusing, lol

I put mine into fed sharda

[whole sequoia]

went the way of officer tokens I want as well, given that I suspect either all three are spies or none of them. might be very wrong of course 🙂 that you can only choose one officer this time was communicated and implemented very poorly though

[hard oxide]

the Part 6-10 of the mission chain this month may indicate who the spy is

Sisko and Kira are sent away to be court marshalled leaving only miles there on the station and the person who sent them away was a founder.

so unless thats a complete red herring may tell us who it is?

[whole sequoia]

almost near the end of Part 9 and no real clues I could find

||ah, that I suspected all along, he was too strange|| 😄 would mark that as spoiler in this channel though

[hard oxide]

deleted as I dont know how to do the spoiler

[verbal cloak]

Geeez - in the typical $copely fine print, I needed reading glasses to see that lol just now. When I read this I was like, I never read that. You have to scroll down one of the obscure passages in one of the many parts of that overly complex labyrinth. I cannot read that fine print without my reading glasses - and even then I had to really dig down to see it. There’s a reason so many got caught on this …. In following the established patterns for these kind of events you naturally select the ones available - I moved through quickly before realizing they renewed - AND the warning wasn’t on anything at the reward portion - which is where it should have been if we agreed to your argument. But even better, as many have said previously - just lock it so you get all 6 by selecting one officer. Why split them up unless you intended for this to happen. The logical conclusion I came to is they deliberately wanted this to happen. It was setup and designed this way.

[hard oxide]

I agree it could have been much clearer as we don't normally have to make a choice like that. Or indeed lock the selection so you get all 6 at the same time. I was giving them some credit for at least putting the line in there haha

[verbal cloak]

The completion event and individual rewards for all 6 to one officer expire in hours - so if you fell into the $copely trap, you lose 1,500 in rewards of the prizes

[verbal cloak]

Lmao. Too funny peldorvarga! You’re being very very generous methinks. 👏😎

[hard oxide]

I was lucky I started later so people were already complaining about it so I didnt get caught out

[verbal cloak]

Indeed. I wish people in my alliance warned me. They let it go for hours before I posted a warning - too late for the majority

[simple seal]

I hear we are getting a compensation chest. Maybe

[verbal cloak]

If there is one - it should go to only those who didn’t get the reward

[simple seal]

Usually we all get the compensation. Sometimes the screwup is even worth the loot

[visual sparrow]

What's the catch with this one? Is it refreshing and giving 5 shards every day?

[silver pike]

No one knows. Only guesses can be made

[last hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-jim-carrey-thumbs-up-smile-happy-gif-4616567

you really messed up scopely, I spend 6 intels to 3 officers and cained only 200/600 each, now I dont have way to complete espionage!

[rough frost]

When did you choosed the wrong chest?

[bitter snow]

you get five, and then its timer ends before the refresh comes up 😂

[last hamlet]

this is first espionage that I cant fully complete

[bitter snow]

Wait, was it scopely that messed up, or did you not read it through fully first? 👀

seems to be a lot of it going around with that event, so the explanations could have been up in big bold letters somewhere to say which order to do things... but then there still would have been someone who didn't read it right

[last hamlet]

I have in every espionage bought all intels

but now it seems scopely wanted us to choose spend only kira intel

they really messed up.

[cunning radish]

You*

https://tenor.com/view/get-it-together-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20792475

[last hamlet]

this is just 1 of many screw up of scopely dont mind addint another grinding faction to add up to probes and stella

and Currently I despice hunting probes as its forever kill to get full load.

[turbid kayak]

Guys - you didn’t blow the event, you just don’t get the meta for yesterday. I don’t either. It’s not the end of the world. New day, new chance.

Your individual votes still count. You just don’t get the meta for one day.

[celest rover]

The way it reads is if you don’t pick a person you can’t progress through the event

I can’t finish this week so I won’t finish the event and get a clue……

And I blame Scopley and CCs for saying to not horde the Rods and to spend them as u get them!

[weak copper]

They said that for last month because there would be fewer opportunities to spend them going forward. That is not the same as saying “keep doing this every month”.

[desert laurel]

1 ruined day isn't 1 ruined week. You can recover from this, especially now that you know to slow down and analyze the events.

[weak copper]

If people jumped straight in and just did the same as they did last month without reading the actual event details, that’s on them

[weak gust]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-xmas-amiga-16bit-lemmings-gif-19435292

[celest rover]

I one hundred percent disagree. I completed both events just out grinding and completing my dailies! I got rods like all of last month and used them just as the whole last month dictated. If Scopley was going to make a change to an established mechanic they needed to say so before starting the events!

But as usual Scopley makes a change and it’s our fault for not reading small ass print on a phone

And for those that ask what the game mechanic was up until yesterday. Spend the rods as u feel free to!

And saying that we wouldn’t have time to spend them. Yesterdays event was the fastest u could spend them yet!

[weak copper]

They did say so. In the event details.

[celest rover]

To spend 18 rods in all of last month would have taken you 5 days

Not ten minutes

[weak copper]

And last months advice to spend all the rods because there would be fewer opportunities in subsequent months implied that things were going to be different

[celest rover]

They made a change to an established game mechanic in . 2 font in an obscure way

You are wrong it implied u wouldn’t be able to spend them as readily. But as I just pointed out that’s not the case at all

[weak copper]

You’re still ignoring the fact that the event details spelled it out, in italics if I’m not mistaken

[rough frost]

It was stated there will be less chance to spend rods.

And there less. Only 3 events 🤷 people who stockpiled rods missed lot of chest last month, and can make up a few this month but overall they might loose rewards. And loose opportunity for December big final.

It wasn't needed to keep any rods to complete meta

[turbid kayak]

You pick a person 6 times

[verbal cloak]

The thing is the key phrases were buried where you had to scroll and in such small fine print I couldn’t read it - had to get a snapshot and blow it up. And it was in an obscure location - not where the rewards were / and they had a weird cool down which made it look like there were only 3 available / 1 for each officer. Add to that the insane amount of things you Have to do daily. Plus they diverted from what was previously established arcs ago. And - I said all of this earlier- hence having to repeat it all again, because in this case you did not read all the text above lol. Maybe we should have to read war and peace, LOTR, and the English dictionary in all forms before anyone is allowed to play the game 🤣 Lmao - but in all seriousness, this is a cluster “f” of scopely’s making.

[turbid kayak]

In the grand scheme of things, I think you’re being a little overly dramatic.

You missed one meta.

[bitter snow]

I took a moment to read the scoring metrics (not even the blurb - just the scoring popouts) for the events I hadn't seen before while waiting on ships to warp to the systems I was going to do the work in.
Then I looked at the payouts for the investigations and figured I wanted to be able to pull some of those new chests for 'free', so I had to go all in on one of the officers 😂

[mild island]

Care to elaborate how small the text was on your screen/device? Maybe with that snapshot. Asking cause on mine (iOS) it’s perfectly readable and same size as the rest of the event description and interested to see if it’s really such a big difference for other.

[fathom tangle]

for some, it's not about the missed meta. it's about the deception and betrayal of trust

[bitter snow]

The "key phrases" aren't needed if you just do a little maths around scoring...

[bitter snow]

Deception?

[finite leaf]

Obviously this was an user interface mistake, or so many people wouldn’t have made this error. Regardless of the reality that it was in the fine print.

[verbal cloak]

Yeah - it’s a storm on a teacup 🍵 Not like Russia or North Korea launching nukes or something. But… but…. It’s a storm ⛈ in our teacup. And this is the place for this teacup’s storm ☔️ ✌️

[bitter snow]

Sorry, If I choose to ignore a sign post and end up in the wrong county, that's not deception, that's being burned by making an assumption

[verbal cloak]

What’s wrong with that? Lol 😂

[bitter snow]

And just like driving a few miles in the wrong direction... it's an easy fix 🤣

[turbid kayak]

The description was there. I missed it to. I think scopely could have done a better job explaining - but the instructions were there if you read it.

[fathom tangle]

yes: "you will not have many chances to spend rods in the future". combined with a minimum of 2h cooldown before on those things, requiring 6 for the same, and some need to sleep and do rl stuff, it was imperative to get that intel fast

[turbid kayak]

Would you rather scopely fix real bugs or wade through the drama from some players who couldn’t be bothered to read instructions and missed ONE META.

[celest rover]

I’m glad u added this one. This event has nothing in the How to score points! It says complete an investigation. Right they they could have put in BOLD letters spend all rods in 1 person!

[verbal cloak]

Nope - read my comments. Please refute each one in triplicate and I’m fine print 🐳

[fathom tangle]

we were basically trained to make this exact kind of mistake

[verbal cloak]

Exactly !!

[turbid kayak]

Oh ffs… are you kidding me?!?!? You trust scopely for anything?

[fathom tangle]

plus, the relevant game mechanic info was not highlighted as other game mechanic stuff. further deviating from the established patterns

[bitter snow]

people went clicking without reading the events, and now the sky is falling 🤣

[rough frost]

He is new, after 4 years like us, we know to never click anything 😆

[turbid kayak]

Well, you just proved Pavlov was right then.

[bitter snow]

👀

[fathom tangle]

been playing for 4 months. so, yeah, they hadn't run out of the trust advance i generally give for interacting with ppl

[mild island]

But that’s the mechanic. Do the sub-meta events -> collect rods -> change them to intelligence (only one of the three) in the event store -> auto complete one of the three meta events.

[bitter snow]

And fwiw, I didn't even realise the 'warning text' was there til I saw people saying it should have been clearer 🤣

[verbal cloak]

And you want my family album too … And access to my bathroom too no doubt? Who cares? I recently over the last year had to get glasses to see fine print - I was alive when JFK was alive, so I think that gives some grounds for respite, Doesn’t it? When were you born my 20/20 vision with monster monitor friend, 😂

[turbid kayak]

Many of us, myself included, messed up. But you guys are seriously making a mountain out of a mole hill. Your votes counted, you get to continue today. You’re not out of the game. YOU MISSED ONE META. 1500 chips is all you don’t get. We’re gonna see 100k or more in chips. 1%, is what you errored on. You can still get an A.

[bitter snow]

So... wear the glasses 👀
My eyesight is abysmal without mine 😂

[celest rover]

@mild island that’s how it’s obscure! Read 3 different events to figure out how to score in the final. Once again I completed two of them before even knowing it

[mild island]

Now now. Wasn’t trying to be unkind. And no, I got glass jars in the basement with thinner glasses then my actual glasses.

[stoic night]

As always, their announcements come hours after the fact, instead of before. They know their own events, a "hey guys here's what's changed this month's event" would have helped immensely.

[celest rover]

Why go back and read completed events!

[mild island]

Only read the one to understand it, the other two just confirmed my understanding.

[fathom tangle]

it's. not. about. the. bleeping. chips!
i had spare rods from last month, so i could recover. and warn the rest of the server about the easy mistake, ofc.

[mild island]

And god forbid we have to read the event, all the events we are doing…. 😲

[celest rover]

No read the one that said complete an investigation. The others say need to spend rods to complete. Then I had already completed the two that gave rods. Go spend the rods. Find out I should have spent them in only one person……

In any of those areas a note could have been added that said spend all rods in one person in bigger text!

[turbid kayak]

But the instructions were there. I see them myself after the fact. The mistake was in the players who didn’t expect scopely to make the event a little different.

They can’t win. People complain about the content being the same every arc. They change it and people complain that they changed it.

[bitter snow]

I'm just gonna go and feel smug over in a corner somewhere, that I got it right without hand holding 😂

[celest rover]

An advanced warning saying a change to established game mechanics. Anything!

[bitter snow]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-daniel-craig-saturday-night-live-thats-right-yeah-gif-16611686

[turbid kayak]

When has scopely ever done that? C’mon….

[celest rover]

That’s the point they don’t. They rectify issues they create

They need to rectify the issue

Give a gift chest with 4 rods

[verbal cloak]

Lol - yeah - my wife keeps telling me that lol. Wanted me to wear a leash and collar with them attached 😂. In all honestly, we have two young cats, and they steal anything that’s not bolted down lol. Took me a while to find them - lol. Only recently got them - so annoying my sight’s finally giving out - but those cats are funny, I tell you.

[bitter snow]

They can't rectify other people's willingness to read and comprehend... that ship has sailed in the school system 😂

[mild island]

Experience would tell anyone playing this game more than one week, better check if the event is still the same (or even working at all) before I go all in. 🙈🤭

[turbid kayak]

Exactly. The mistake was mine.

[celest rover]

You are pointing out that it’s okay for them to make these changes without advanced notice to established mechanics

[verbal cloak]

Lol - was meant in good humor 🙂

[celest rover]

You all lost your minds when they changed Gaila!

[verbal cloak]

Yes we did! Free Galia!! 👍

[desert laurel]

Mechanics of events did not change. They just didn't give you enough stuff to finish all the events.

[turbid kayak]

We live in a time when people don’t want to own their own mistakes. It’s always the other guys fault.
Don’t get me wrong. I was upset. But as soon as I found out my votes counted and I would still be able to continue the event… no big deal.

[bitter snow]

Man... I have one eye that behaves, and one that really doesn't. But without glasses I can either walk around with one eye closed, or I can struggle to read a number plate on a car from five feet distant. I can only imagine I get some odd looks when I'm swimming without my glasses because of how I squint to navigate, but I can't confirm the presence of those looks because everyone is just a pink blob from my perspective 😂

I keep threatening to just give up and get an eyepatch 😂

Also, life without proper depth perception + dyspraxia? Hilarious for everyone else

[verbal cloak]

🤣- Pavlov’s dog - man that’s hilarious. I only wish they could train their IT staff how to actually do what most other IT departments do throughout the known universe lol

[bitter snow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

Like that?

[fathom tangle]

how you can source the stuff for an event is part of the mechanic for an event. before, you had enough to complete all things. now, you don't. change in how the events work.

[desert laurel]

Nothing about sourcing changed either, the rods were from events today as they were last month. There were 6x available.

I fully understand a lot of people made mistakes here. But you're making it something bigger than it is. It's a cheap lesson to learn for the future of what this series will look like. All-in days are now a thing, and you must slow down and analyze what you have and what it takes to finish the day's events.

[verbal cloak]

Oh come on - simple design was pick one officer and allocate the lot with a lock out once chosen. Are you really trying to tell us this was well designed? The fact so many were confused by it- and don’t you dare say because we’re stupid (just think it, lol) - means it was confusing for a broad cross-section. But if you’re claiming to be the super smarty - we’ll give you a plaque and a crown.

[desert laurel]

They've managed to break a bad habit for the price of a couple thousand chips. And the community knows now how to play for the remainder of Espionage.

[bitter snow]

Except if they did that, they'd remove choice - I only went all in on one because I lack Leslie and want him (so, Kira/Fed tokens was an easy choice), but some people may have valued a balanced selection of intel briefings more than the recruit tokens/store currency

[verbal cloak]

Funny thing is - throughout my crazy roller coaster of a life, I actually started on mainframe punchcards lol

[bitter snow]

I started on an old yellow screen thing that could do a text version of the 'Yes, Prime Minister' game, and would beep out 'Twinkle, Twinkle' in a pinch 😂

my mother worked on punch cards at Weatherby's 😂 From what I understand, they had to turn that off and on again too

[fathom tangle]

except it's not just espionage events. they've now established that they can add some footnote in some obscure location, underneath the fluff text, to change how things we've learned work. that is what annoys me. because imagine some mission text (that you accidentally skipped because you clicked on something just as the text popped up) tells you that if you lose your ship on this boss enemy, it's gone and you'll have to rebuild it from scratch after earning the bps again. or whatever other hilarious change they might come up with 🤷‍♀️

[bitter snow]

They've always done that

Usually it's about which system you should be in for an event, or something like that

[desert laurel]

Yeah, that's not what this is. This is them making an event that gives you x stuff, and another set of events that take 3x stuff to finish all of them. They aren't changing mechanics, they aren't changing anything at all.

[verbal cloak]

The thing is - A) We have lives, B) They just added station research, bjoran space, bjoran faction, solo armadas, new ships (mantis is still recent), C) All this on top of an insane amount of daily and sundry things to do…. Then throw this crazy ill-conceived event into the mix. If anyone overcomplicated things, I wonder who that would could be?

[bitter snow]

We have lives, but we're all here arguing over a relatively minor thing in the game 😂

[ripe jungle]

They wouldn’t, there are going to be two more runs of this set of events, so you just balance it out over the three runs if you want it balanced.

[verbal cloak]

Oh wow - there was a “Yes Prime minister” game!!! Loved that show! Are you from the UK? (In the US here but grew up in Australia).

[ripe jungle]

I agree that the design is just “gotcha”

[bitter snow]

yep

to both questions 😂

[verbal cloak]

Lol - did they? Is that what I kept getting wrong 😂

[bitter snow]

http://bbcmicro.co.uk/game.php?id=1944

I cannot vouch for the quality of the site/downloads

[verbal cloak]

Lol - was just thinking that - procrastinating ….

[last hamlet]

Well the truth is that they have made for us 3 to 4 espionages before, we were always getting all rewards from espionage. I my self did not read what the tiny print said I just did those that can do hunting or other means like normal espionages. Our team member then said he got event wrong and I said what? if you buy all three intels you cant complete espianages like normal you would. So I feel scopely did change espionage after 4 espionages so that us in hurry before going work did event same as always are screwed. I usually spend 3h before I go work doing events with daylies so I was just doing espinages like the way before.

[verbal cloak]

Well it’s been a blast! Good chatting to all. Have a great day! Time to do the “RL” tango again. 😎😁

[bitter snow]

I don't remember there being a meta last month on claiming the intel briefs, so this was new, not a change 🤷‍♂️