I recently got my ops to 40 and for this event I have taken my academy, r&d, shipyard, one dock, one defense platform, 2 generators, and my science lab all to 40, along with a couple of researches and I still haven't completed the milestones for this stupid incursion prep event! I'm so sick of unrealistic expectations scopely!
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Dont play hard play smart: R&D 40 opens up a lot of new research. Most of them have a power increase at around 60k. That means doing one lvl 1 research would have completed the event for you.
@desert laurel as a none native english speaking, can you explain for me the meaning of ROE and TC please
And ppl who dont have the option? The first event has cost me 60k lat to finish. Skipping it next time and forever :)
Is anyone else not getting points scored n the battle pass overflow
ROE - Rules of Engagement, these are created by your server so you can play in a fairer way.
TC - Territory Capture, it refers more to the territory zones in the bottom left of galaxy view that alliances can compete to keep and get boosts from it
Ok. I did 1 research for 95% of the points and with the other 2 i had it was done. Cost me 12-15k lat. So 2 ATA missions. Totally worth it. And rushing research is never bad. You need to do it anyway at some point.
And it was specific to that player: he had the option but either didnt know, didnt realize or ignored it.
thats one way of putting it👀🤷🏻♂️😂🤣🤣
Took me two first rank researches at a fresh 41 🤷♂️
Can we get some events that pay out gas? Seems to be a lot more ore and crystal overall
You're kidding right? back to back domination events?
Wow, that's harsh, at least it stacks with the bp event.
Did anyone ever get a compensation reward for that screwed up domination event they sent out a couple of days ago?
if you can afford it after yesterday
nope so i'm out those speedups still too
Not yet
back to back infrastructure prep events is exhausting and draining....
And yet still better than the build ships one last time 😅
Probably ATA as it will be the last 17.5k points
Looking at the events they given us so far I don’t think so as it seems to be fairly standard between arc events but who knows a curve ball might be coming and they give us one
Hmmm domination event again today!! I completed the other one and didn’t get any points and am still waiting for the “compensation gift”……Scopely…you suck 🤬😡
maybe in scopely language preparation is an alias for "spend all your resources"
Will be twice a month now with incursions too, on top of the ones they already do for BP’s
Soooo where's the bp event?
🤔 It’s domination is it not on your events list at all?
Oh thats there, it just didn't score on bp
Hmm strange 🤔 maybe some lag. The event is working today (it has the points correctly inside for the flash event) let me know if you get the points at a later point
Did I miss a battle pass event? It loons like there is 1 day left but 2 days in the BP overflow
Domination again and I still haven't received any compensation for the oops the other day I'm out 1.5 million in officer xp I now have nothing to do it with scopely do something.
Can you explain further?
And there is 2 days on the bp
1 today 1 tomorrow
I just did the one today and got the pts
Domination today and by the looks of it ATA tomorrow
How many points is your overflow on
No problem 😊
Stupid question but is anyone else getting insane game breaking lag, started an hour before reset and still going
Still waiting on Previous Domination (glitch) gift.
Sounds a bit more local to you tbh 🤔
There hasn’t been a major/minor lag issue reported here
same here, as many others
Ah thanks thought I missed that “winner” button
Simple question I hope . What’s the name of the the Event that is best to Complete building an Enterprise?, ( if you have the strength not to push the building of it immediately lol )
Upgrade, kill hostiles, upgrade, kill hostiles. Fantastic creativity, slow clap 👏
Tbh what do you expect, when Scopley add something new…. Like incursions people start complaining. People complained when they didn’t communicate, people complained when they did. It’s an endless cycle 😉
Military Supremacy
If you get it
If you still get those.
And your below Ops 38
LOL great minds think alike.
Always! 😉😅
Incursions during Monday through Friday suck
They have to keep it to the least amount of players possible so it doesn’t break the game. I don’t blame them. Weekend incursions and everyone would be online
@real sonnet you guys are about even with 28 from the xslb
They have said they have many static events like swarms and cosmic clean up on weekends so prefer not to do it then
Yes… those are very important lol
Starting the build no issue. Finishing it is where patients is needed. And It is good for an FH event and the tiering during a ship event or auction on material spent.
Then maybe they need to upgrade everything so they can do it
is the incursion material advantage khan/worf actually 25 pts per G3 U like it says or really 100 pts like last time?
Looks to be 100
Got 50k have spent 500
Thanks dax
Continued monkeycode from scopely I guess. Lol
Heres a crazy idea for your new content.
Give us outline of said new, date it will happen, reason why if you can't deliver by said date.
G this sounds like marketing and pr maybe !!
As you couldnt organise a duck in a .... not holding my breathe
Secret squirel bs only ducking yourself
New refinery improvements was when ??
Such a cynical because your outstanding keeping us in the dark.
And you wonder why players such cranky sob's
Testing ect not a foreign concept to any company which would like to make money, unless of course said problems were deliberate!!
Would i recommend this game from my experience....not a chance
Kudos when you did pull 1st incursions when it was such a cluster
Tbh running incursions again b4 you had ironed out all the problems, player feed back. Was bean counters over player satisfaction ...
If you like argue any my points please do !!
And for your packs, dig deep scopely as food fuel cost living, kinda more important than your bottum line.
As i am blunt sob, be generous and you will still make money.!!
A dream .
New refinery improvements a + 10 % input gives a 50 % increase to uncommon rare epic... hmm 20 uncommon 15 rare 15 epic ....
As you dont seem care fyi , cant inagine this dream or any fyi any time soon
Imagine
50 % or less insulting as refinery input vs output been kinda bethetic since i started playing this game.
You exceed the dream, absolutely amazed
Mmmm....extra salty....
<@&509690795536941056> any news when we get the gift?
"Commanders,
The Domination BP event that went out today, 7/28 at 1PM PT, was scheduled incorrectly and that is why it was not providing rewards and pulled.
We know that many of you invested resources into this event and we're going to be providing a gift to all players who participated in the event before it was taken down.
LLAP vulcan
- Eco"
Some time this week
thanks 😄
Scopely took mercy on us and no ata for bp
Yes but gave us assignment Hunter 🤣
Assignment Hunter scoring is ridiculous as usual. Removing Trait XP continues to be a kick in the nuts
Be grateful you can use the trait xp in the bp events when it comes round
I personally don’t even bother with the assignment hunter as I won’t have enough for bp
No triat xp is a mixed blessing for me. On the one I have to wait for to kick Nero for rebate. On the other hand maybe next one will have an avatar I won't use? I am praying
She's so sassy I don't know if I will ever replace this one
The lat events before incursion are very nice. Really glad they did that
So is Incursions two days now? It shows 2x12H for both attack and defend.
No it’s 24h, the 12h are simultaneous
you you can either attack or defend at any time?
Basically yes
Although conduits are still limited
okay, that should be interesting. Not really an organized server defense period then.
No but it does help anyone that wants to feel more free in doing SMS’s
They were restrictive before
A lot of people missed 3 SMS’s
yeah, I skipped the one in the middle of the night
Must be with the I’m sorry chest 😂😂😂
It’s an uhura chest? I just got one
The message is celebrating the new retrieving arc 😂😂😂
is incursion event going to be against same server or different server?
Different
I hope my xslb is some bad accident. If not, we are going to be clubbing some babies
That's better.. LoL. We got slaughtered last one.
I’m guessing they’re putting winners vs winners this round
I have no real proof of this outside the last incursion though
It’s G3 vs G5 economy on server 85 and 60. I’m on server 60. 85 hasn’t ascended yet
Looks like it
Guys, for the ones who completed all BPs since the introduction of broken rods, how many should we have after completing this mini BP? 3240 or 3600?
I have 3240 and don’t think I’ve missed any.
Is that including the BP that ends today?
For the up coming incursion, did they remove the event that give out points for pvp lose? I know lot of people feeding kills from that.
That seems really high, I'm at 1440 before the end of this BP, and pretty sure I haven't missed any of the BP overflows, maybe 1 at most. Did you get any from the 30d chests? Just sanity checking, at 360/BP, that's 10 months for 3600 and Treasury only came out in March
1440 + 360 is what you should have rn without opening any monthlys
I'm at 2880 before finishing today's, but including whatever monthlies have come up.
Anyone else 10k short on the BP overflow? I don’t remember missing and BP events so I should’ve completed it 🤔
It should add up perfectly to the overflow amount from what I can see (haven’t done mine yet)
I must’ve left an event incomplete and not realised it. Maybe it was during my extra life game day, I was awake for 40 hours 🤦♂️😂
Wow
That’s
Wow
I’m speechless sorry 😬
I’ve almost recovered. It was for a good cause though so definitely worth it 🙌🏻
those 34 shards uhura shards were great,much apreciated, what about the compensation chest for the last week error?
Finished Battle Pass every day and end up 300 points short of overflow penultimate reward. Great job planning this one out.
No problems here
@pseudo rune .. can you all please add Trait XP as a scoring mechanism for Assignment Hunter - SMS? When players don't know it's coming and have not prepared, we end up needing to use more Speed Ups than we like. Please.
it used to be there
not like Scopely to give up a chance to encourage spending
In a diff version, yes
Did scopely fix the dead base exploit for this round of incursions?
We will find out 😉
Most likely no since that was used in the Turf Wars events like a year ago
So for these incursions are they still 24 hours or 48 now? event lists states 2x12 HR sessions for both attack and defense but the event itself is listed as 24 HR, is this is 1 day event or a 2 day event, or is it 2 1 day events, anyone know for sure?
They are 24h the 12h SMS run simultaneously
Thank you!
Anyone's elses Unity BP event not scoring at all?
Are there going to be any more disappearing act events?
@pseudo rune I'm sure someone has asked this already, apologies for that, but are we expecting Apex at the same time as Incursion?
Yes
How you can find out if you’re defending or attacking first?
They both happen at the same time.
No, one server is the invader and the other one is defending. It would be nice to know it for some organization…somebody would call it strategy…
For this run, a server is both attacker and defender at the same time for the first 12h with a set of events for both. Then 12h later, another set of events where they are again attacker and defender at the same time.
Very nice to know👍🏼 thank you very much
Finished every battlepass event, including the Domination one you yanked, and I'm two milestones short!??
First thing to do is collect SS of the reports of the events you can still see, ie. today's and yesterday's bp events.
Then if both look fine, contact CS and see which event you didn't get credit for. #👽-how-to-contact-support
Lord I hope not
i suspect there is one scheduled for August 9th
If they do that again I'd be pretty disappointed in them
I have my standards low, so I’m expecting another one
Very specific there, why?
because the last time this snafu happened, it was also on arc fall
It's pretty safe to say that Disappearing Act will continue to run in the future. There's nothing wrong with the event other than completion difficulty, but that could have been intended.
Thank you scopely, i completed heroic overflow and got rewards 😊
I am a critic scopely, but really appreciate if you found more ways for me and others had a reason compliment you job well done.
Is there going to be a maintenance scheduled for in about 90m???
There isn't a patch scheduled to night, probably next week though.
only those without the ATA gene will get the patch
have they announced who will start of attack and defense?
in theory if you were on defence first last time you're on attack first this time
The attack and defend phases occur at the same time. Honestly, unless the rewards for the SMS are 1000x better, I'll just go and invade and skip it.
But that too
but since we've switched partners what if we were both on defense?
2x12 hours of each type, running concurrently
I need the ore
Do defence SMS first, swap over for attack and the majority of the duration, then switch back for the second defence - only need one conduit then.
But that depends on the other side not doing exactly the same 😂
I got stuck in the first one do you know why ?
you didn't thank the bus driver?
Looking for the list of "things not fixed yet" for this incursion round
To my current knowledge everything was fixed in the last incursion. So there shouldn’t be any outstanding issues except for anyone that might be stuck on the wrong server still
So. No old empty stations that give. For some reason. Mega amounts of amalgam rss.?
No. Having full loot bus hitting station over and over giving points?
Not being able to relo into territory?
Nooooooooooooooooo
There are still people who haven’t gone back?
A minority are still trapped, my guess would be that CS has a high ticket volume rn or something
@pseudo rune why are we getting a general ping about incursions. Thought it was only US servers today
Where?
Notifications on phone
Are we really doing this stupid event again? I’m taking the day off and playing FreeCell. Call me when it’s over
It’s over according to the calendar. Feel free to set your own reminder 👌🏻
Incursions is one of the most communicated events ever in the history of STFC.
Just about every server still had several people who were somehow surprised by it’s arrival.
It’s tedious, but consider it a service to the people who pay less attention 🤣
I was being facetious. Get the point.
You do you. Lotta people excited about it. 🤷🏻♂️
You shouldn't be able to relo into territory on the other server anyway... you don't own that territory...?
Can you leave your number here
nobody call him... we don't need him 😂
We dont want the number to call him
🤣
do arc events lock your OPs level the day before it opens? or random time we don't know
Oooft, that’s a very specific question.
Honestly not sure, if you wanna try I’d be interested in the results.
Compare rewards on https://stfc.space
Post your methodology and we'll see if there are any flaws.
Testing would be playing chicken with the event reset window, and comparing the payouts you get vs the stated ones for your new ops bracket on the link above
what's an example of an event i can use?
like, the recruit uhuru or something from last arc?
standard day to day events go up as soon as you ops up
it's solely the battlepass rewards that get locked at or before reset
Territory should be exempt from this stupid event. It should be a safe place you can get your mining done for dailies
A safe space is exactly what Origin isn't supposed to be.
logic = making the "pvp systems" safe from the "pvp event"
You fight for it, then you can't base yourself there so your shield actually works?
Does 199 have ROE on those as well? 😄
For two whole days a month (well, 2 and a bit for you guys now)
Main issue is that your shields go. I have no issue with raiding happening if your forget. But while infinite idiocy is on you have to move out of your own territory. That's just stupid
If it happened at random, sure
But, you've got so much warning it's coming
We had someone move over to the other server last time from our territory, he was entirely unmolested for the first 12 hours while he emptied someone 😂
Warning isn't the point. The point is you fought for that territory. DURING A TAKEOVER. Then once you've won, it's yours.
Until there’s another takeover.
It's here and I kind of expect it to be here to stay, even if there are tweaks... if losing the ability to sit in territory and play king of the castle for 24 hours and do your mining, 2-3 times per month tops is that terrible, maybe the game isn't for you anymore?
But it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a great big advert for any alliance you’re at war with (or server) as to where you are 😆
If you have ops brewing complete it before arc fall
we vacate territory entirely during wars usually. Makes it much more annoying for the other side to find us 😂
I sit in territory and batter the ones who are daft enough to think we just leave miners out for them to kill 🤣
Yeah right. Our territories are basically static.
And we're not at war with anybody. In fact I'm not even sure there are any active wars on at the moment
1 hour before incursions and the game keeps locking up and kicking me out every minute. Come on Scopley, this gets old.
Then think of it as practice 😄
That’s you. That doesn’t mean it’s universal though.
Yeah right. Nice to be high enough level to do that 🙄
It’s practically unheard of to not have any conflict on a server though 🤣
APAC servers are pretty dead as I understand it...
We've had unpleasantness sure. Usually involving just the same old suspects though.
There is PvP available, go to a system and do it there, great. All for that.
But this event actively encourages people to come over and just wreck everything in sight. If it just excluded survey ships and territory i'd be happy. That would allow those that want to avoid it the ability to go do something in territory, do their mining etc, and those that want PvP have the rest of faction space to go play in
I'd do it the other way, territory protection is ridiculous 😂 - how would it jive with takeovers during the incursion, too?
I suppose at the end of the day, I come from a headspace where my first admiral was bullied off the server without scopely raising so much as a finger, so I hate pvp anyway
What point is there in participating in takeover while you're on the opposing server? You can't claim it. All you can do is wreck someone else's fun
I mean, disabling pvp in systems where a takeover is active is going to break other stuff
not to mention, handling crossing over
All I'm saying is disable incursion pvp in those systems. Not server pvp
Bullied off the server usually indicates they were pushing a viewpoint that others didn’t like, whether it be a personal view or a gameplay style they wanted others to abide by…
If I had an alliance working at a takeover and some ineligible whale rolled in and cost us the win I'd be seriously annoyed
Welcome to every takeover, ever.
Yeah, encouraging him to kill himself, following him to every system he moved to and raiding him constantly were his fault
What did he do to start that.
In the end he alted to a different server and they found and followed him there
Not excusing the abuse, but what was it he said that got someone’s attention so badly?
That’s the bit that’s left out of every “I got banned”, “I get shot” story on here 😬
He was designated as the English speaker of his alliance of non English speakers.
They were at war with someone. He arranged a set piece "bring all your ships, winner takes all" battle.
His side showed up, the others chose that time to raid his alliances bases.
He was blamed, kicked out and hunted
imo, one simple change can just be to leave shields intact at event start but once it runs out, it can't be enabled without big pop up tellign you gotta move to lvl 19 or below systems
Not terrible
it sucks for those people who put up 7 day or 30 shield thinking they're safe and come back to "WTF?"
Only if it drops with a relocate as well
And as they were all online, ready to fight, pushing the “shield” button was too much?
Those people threw a 30 day with no knowledge of incursions have been archived already, and for the most part they’ll have had to re-shield anyway 😆
Let's just say that in their culture honour is important and he organised it so he was held responsible
Sounds like he was a victim of his own wellmeaning, kinda like being green and venturing into feedback channels; but block, report, repair, move on.
He did block and report. Multiple times. Nothing ever happened. If you've got an in at scopely PM me, I'll give you his username and you can look it up
Nothing I can do, but if you report regularly it gets dealt with, it just takes some reporting.
You'll forgive me if I don't have any faith in that statement. Months man, months. Multiple reports, emails to scopely, notifications of EULA breaches, nothing. NOTHING happened. Anyway I'll leave you to it, it's bedtime
Any clue on server matchups, and directions?
Best guess is those that were in your xslb during prep.
Its one day of pvp.. to balance all those days of mining/pve. If you don't want to get involved, move to a lv19 system or below and shield up. There has been plenty of warnings and explanations of the mechanics. I don't see why there is so much complaining?
If people don't complain, it will be assumed that there are no complaints and the event is universally adored. It's almost at a point where I swear there's more complaining about people complaining than actual complaining
Because some people HATE PvP and would rather opt in than be forced to participate. And you can't say you're not forced when all your miners get destroyed as soon as they get sent out
Don’t send them out 🤷🏻♂️
Is there some delay in sending events or do EU have nothing to do today and instead have to deal with Incursion and APEX at the same time tomorrow?
tagging @pseudo rune for the above question.
And again incompetence par excellent for scopley 🤦🏼. But it’s really hard to get good stuff…. @pseudo rune
No event means no event 🤷🏻♂️
Yall have fun im on lunch break playing wordle
I mean I dunno if there’s supposed to be one, but Apex is 8/3.
This games amazing
Do t want to use it, but the emoji for you has one finger!!!!
Those are the correct events for the day! Apex starts tomorrow.
So there's nothing to do today event wise? Welp
This is normal?
🤷🏻♂️ why so nasty? There appears to be no event.
Can we please get a new event?
That’s it.
ATA isn’t an event for most
No events today. Disappointing.
It isn’t an event at all, it’s a “time to cash in your stockpiled missions” cue 🤣
So NO events then, great engagement 😅
You just don't have a little expectation...
Every day, 2-3 events should pop up. Heck, make it 5!
I expected Apex to be tomorrow. I hoped there’d be something spicy for the Americans to have to battle through for incursions, but I expected what I was told to expect.
This is just US preferential treatment as EU will have APEX during incursion
The first positive for scopley is: no event doesn’t work wrong or not…. No high performance employees at scopley = no events….
@pseudo rune ATA was a 48 hour event, that started yesterday...why no hostile hunt or jelly brawl 😈 for now before incursions on EU or APAC servers?
same event rewards as last time? quite disappointing to be honest
I was avoiding using such inflammatory terms for it, but it does seem a little unfair to let the Americans chill out completely for incursions and then have EU and APAC try get through Apex 🤣
screenshots please 😊
@pseudo rune any news on when we’re getting our compensation gift for the domination event?
Use it
But we're gonna get incursion during data mining event, haha
Dont really Care about apex, but its cerritos event as well
There is no other way to put it. Crap all over non US servers
Looking at the how APEX and incursions are laid out this is the best option
It’s really poor to have absolutely nothing outside of the normally daily events for servers not starting incursions today.
Uhm. I’d put it more delicately if I wanted the post to stay myself 😆
Scopley remains true to himself to the end: one disappointment follows the next.... And as if Apex was great or Borg event... completely boring and the same as 2 years ago
If they want to censor away the real sentiment go ahead just pushes more EU and APAC to leave the game
To say we feel completely ignored in how the events have been planned for EU and APAC is an understatement
Same …. Diffrent day/event/ arc/ scopley
Incursion shouldnt overlap with any major event series
It could be worse tbh they could have stuck APAC on day 3 of APAC throwing away all chances to participate in Opus Grande
Nothings today ? Yet tomorrow eu has incursion and events at same time ?! 👍🏻😡
Aren’t we supposed to have incursions?
It's to reduce lag 🤣🤣
OK, what is the f'ing secret. Our opponent has 1 billion points 10m into the event. And we're lvl 39 capped servers.
Scopley remains true to himself to the end: one disappointment follows the next.... And as if Apex was great or Borg event... completely boring and the same as 2 years ago
Maybe they introduced a point pack in the store?
smells like a couple of amalgam hits on a base?
We are already getting players saying they are going to pop shields and just ignore this week thanks to this nonsense
A whale got cracked
Yeah the forethought in this is just plainly to penalise non US
No events at all for eU 😭
Sounds like you missed my point . If they had put all the incursions during APEX then everyone would be way worse off
at least that would be more equal
There will be Cerritos, Apex and maybe a little bit more for EU tomorrow.
How so? I just explained APAC would be at the greatest disadvantage
I get that but for US to be at no disadvantage at all is more messed up.
EU would be minority affected and so would US
thank god the game servers lagg like crp again..
I assume the game would die of lag if they started incursions on eu, us and apac at same time!?
It just shows they don't really think or plan things through. Both EU and APAC knew they would have to try and do an event during incursions but for US to get away with it is just plain preferential treatment.
Thought they would have done the amalgam upgrade event before the incursions started tbh.
there is still a difference for a 3 day run to have 1 day of literally nothing to do while the incursions run (US), an active mining (apex 1. day or latinum monday) and PVE killing (cerritos) (EU) and another PVE (apex) (APAC)... you can't with a straight face say this is "the same for every region", can you?
US always gets the better treatment.
APAC get the alpha tester treatment and EU get the beta tester treatment
It’s not something new
and still something we shouldn't simply accept
Whether we accept or not, Scopely will always have other plans
no reward for 123 😦
Its what happens when countries are insular
No new events today …
There are really no more events today and tomorrow much too much? Or is it another trainee error?
Something is being planned now to be released for all regions
is US' incursion finished? or just started?
Just started
They will release it today ?
Yep apparently
To come out and say that this is what was planned as well Seriously?
Mining 🤣
thx
No EU events today apparently @silver pike
Yes this might be changed but it’s not confirmed yet
😒 EVENTS PLEASE
Where do you get that information from?
From Eco
Doesnt seem right to score no points when destroyed by a ringer way out of our class. Other server preventing us from even scoring by losing
Nothing really changed for players @34 Ops or below... barely any target population to score points for All Out Offense/Defense. Been watching both designated systems, and no show. Worthless event once again for Ops 34 and below. Way to keep the highers happy and exclude the mids and lowers. Disgusted once again. Shame on you Scopely.
Incursion isn't a pvp event, it's a raiding event. Unless you are desperate for the SMS rewards, just go and raid
talk to people - get a higher level player to use a scoring ship for your bracket to meet with you and help you finish the SMS... that's always an option.
Rom is not working on the other server. Pretty key captain ability for raiding…
so, I'm echoing here, but seriously, no events for EU/APAC servers because US have incursions wtf @pseudo rune
Yeah, matched fights are possible if you speak up and ask. Some tools will blow you up for fun anyways, but not everyone on the sever will be a tool 🙂
If I can't stack or do all of the Events, what's the point? Wasting time, rss, and etc for only half of rewards? That's not viable. I want to be able to collect on all rewards.
I asked for help last time around and got jack. For 48 hours, no one showed in either systems.
I can't compete with raiding because I am Ops 31 and get swatted a dozen times before I even make a dent. It's not economically smart game play. It's a waste for me.
you're sure of that? they might have just had kuras in the station to block Rom?
It’s been passed on and we might be getting an event shortly
any raiding teams from your server you could join?
and half of the people have left the game for today by then.
Do you read only what you want from my statement? Again... I can't stack, and I am far too powerless to keep getting destroyed for nothing, or basically half of nothing. It's not economical. I lose more than gain.
🤷♂️ up to them how they spend their day
meanwhile, APAC will have to deal with coincident Incursions and Stella skin SLB. Sick of being the poor cousins
So the new motto is: Scopely - Expect nothing and still get disappointed?
Not having a PvE option for the SMS is just .. garbage.
Your Stella skin SLB event will only be affected on the first day not the second when the main armada event is on
that SLB has a runtime of 2 days - you don't need to go all-out on the first day
Serious lag and login issues for s11
yal loving losing trillions of reasources for 2 shards?
No lag on pc. But also no ships in pve systems.
sorry but you literally can finish the event with crashing your realta into a scoring ship - while yes, you need to reach the system with a realta and I cannot confirm this is possible - but there are ways for at least economically participate in the SMS using the "loosing" scoring to finish it without declaring bankruptcy in the process...
There are no ships in the systems!
if you don't want to spend the time doing it -> then don't
So if you somehow find a way to give the Realta +100 warp strength, it's easy? I'll get right on that.... Oh wait.
that's why I earlier said "ask in global chat if someone is willing to put a ship there" 🙈
sorry, but summoning a realta to a system it cannot reach otherwise is a waste of jump juice
that was the cheapest example - you can use other relatively cheap to repair ships as well of course...
you shouldnt need to plan to trade kills with players to finish an event. Events should be organically completable
It totally doesn't affect me, but will affect the f2p who have been been working for ages on this. Last time APAC had it on Lat Rush, this time Stella SLB, my poor cousins argument remains
Did that about 2 dozen times the last time. TELL ME HOW THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT?!
THERE ARE NO SHIPS!
when have any PVP events in this game ever been "organically completable"?
make sure to use vemet
as captain
disco pvp is organically completable....next
I sat here and watched the gc and both systems and NOTHING.
Depending on server composition not many will do it during your incursion
rescue the crew is organically completable....PVE scoring mechanic exists
A surprising amount of people don’t like the SLB
No ships to hit.
Yeah!
Most of them are 36 are lower.
sooner or later someone will hit you

this is pvp game right?
i keep hearing that
Nope, had my ship sitting there for over 12 hours and nada.
Have a look how it goes but tbh I don’t expect many to try and score in the SLB on that day
Let me know too. 😊
Pvp, fine. But would like to complete all events.
most people treat it like farmville in space and 💩 their 👖 any time they lose a ship
well with most pay to win games
thats resources that are important
💅
if the progression wasnt so slow more people would enjoy pvp
💋
you can enjoy a game AND be upset at the slow progression. but if you're upset at PVP AND slow progression, why the hell are you even playing?
pve and mining?
so farmville in space....which no one ever advertised this game as
So what is everyone on US servers doing in place of the game today since the game is pointless and ruined by inccursions on US servers
how is this game advertised then?
once i get home beer and dog walk

you're missing my point. Similar US servers will have no problem for the Stella skin SLB, but APAC will be severely affected, that's simply unfair. Running concurrent events with Incursions that differ depending on server is completely unreasonable.
Incursions since not everyone shares your opinion
But the vast majority do
I get your point but your not competing against US servers in your leaderboards it will be local to your “economcy”
"Star Trek Fleet Command is a 4X "explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate" mobile strategy game created by Irish developer Digit Game Studios and published by Scopely and CBS Interactive."
That's from wikipedia about this game... I can see a mere 1/4th of "PVP" in those 4X definitions... not at all 50% or (as others argue) 100% 😄
Find me the evidence
5 whining players isn’t evidence
Just look at my server on any other day and look at it today
@pseudo rune And once again the system specific pvp sms is a snooze fest with the few ships you see being people trying to score by dying and not giving any points back.
activity is ziltch compared to normal
I Would love have incursion today, literally no new events to do on EU servers, can’t remember us ever having a day with no new event? Did someone forget to press the start button?
1 server is still not evidence
Woo baby.. look at all that back and forth action. All the bobbing and weaving... it's so exciting. Right? Right? Great event this is. 😑
Yes it is you on the other hand have eyes that are sealed shut
Eco asked about adding an event for today
Highly doubt that since I hear from many servers that most their players enjoy it. Even some farmers
lol sure ya do, if you listen to liers with your eyes lol
Show us proof. Screenshots or it's not true.
I’ve got hostile hunt now
Will probably give us domination 🤣
Hostile hunt SMS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ll ask you the same 😉
🥱 why would people lie if they don’t like it 🤨🤨
Made no declaration other than empty sytems on my server
Because they know you like lies
Ah it gives the steel and ore I won't be getting from the SMS tomorrow 🤣
I’m a player 🤣🤣🤣 why would I want to be lied to about how much incursions are liked
Becuase you want the voices in the head to agree with you and they want to make you happy lol
Sounds like your describing yourself there
Nope 'm not a voice in your head, and while I want you to be happy, I will not lie to you to make you happy
I for one am looking forward to raiding Whales again
No, you're still missing it. The same player, with the the same number of shards required for the Stella skin, in an APAC server, is going to be disadvantaged compared to a US server, simply because Incursions runs during their Stella event. The timing of Incursions is the only differentiating factor. That is not OK
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
idk why you talk to green names
lol
Event has arrived. Hosile Hunt 👍
As you seem to enjoy pushing some random logic here I’ll leave you to enjoy that. Have a nice day 🖖
But the US aren’t on your leaderboard. You’re competing against people with the same disadvantage.
Also, it’s 48 hours isn’t it? Just nail it while EU has incursions 😉
I wouldn’t try use my logic with him. Hasn’t got much understanding of it
We’re not here to be abused
Excuse me?
that's irrelevant, people from other servers will be hunting APAC players for PvP because of Incursions. That won't happen in US servers because of the different days
They’re all in the same region!
AP are fighting AP.
what ever they mess up you just say its fine
Absolutely not the case.
Not here bud. The argument is US is more advantaged in their SLB than APAC will be for APEX but given the incursion schedule the affect should be linear
If it’s same time it’s easy for each other to fight during the nights 🤷♂️.
This.
That’s the point I’m trying to make here. The outcomes of the event will be linear within each server.
Yup
You’re not losing the redskin event against someone who doesn’t have incursions when you do.
You’re losing or winning against someone who has the incursions event same as you, especially as redskin is contained to a single server SLB.
forward planning and testing go hand in hand at scopley out the door never to be seen again
So it’s not even like your own server diplo will have much impact.
No ships in station.
agreed, but my point, once again, is that, because of the schedule, it will be easier for a player, all other aspects the same, to gain the required number of shards on a US server, than an APAC server.
How though? They would in theory have to run more armadas to gain the same position as someone on APAC. The only variable not taken into account is how many epic armadas someone can use to get start points
No it won’t 🤦🏻♂️
The winner of the most shards is the one that does the most armadas, on a single server
the same problem happened last time, because Incursions ran concurrently with Lat Rush, which was ridiculous
Lat rush is meh anyway
That some American did eleventy thousand armadas where you only did three is irrelevant, as long as you did one more than anyone else on your server
Doesn’t that run weekly anyways?
It doesn't matter if it runs weekly or not, a forced player assault event should never run at the same time as any other event that requires ships to be out. And should just not exist period.
You were here for the crying that there were no events, right?
It was literally 75 minutes ago.
It didn't effect us in the last Incursion, just bought back full ships on reset
Alliance rewards are meh
Because there is no ROE in Incursions, so I'll go blow up everyone's Emadas during Incursions, I wouldn't do that if Incursions wasn't on
Nailed it!
But everyone on your server has the same problem.
So you’re all equally disadvantaged… or in other words, it’s an even playing field
not what hes saying my god
Depends on ROE as well than I know a few servers that don’t protect armada under roe
Ours doesn’t.
We just don’t hit them unless we want a fight.
Wasted armadas starts for EU and resources not gained because of incursions + they will be dealing with invaders
Then do it in the other half of the 48h event.
Redskin is 48h
Incursions is 24 hours.
americans wont have any wasted armada tokens+ will get their resources once the incursions ends
and have no problem with the first day of Apex
No matter how you dress it up, it’s pretty much a non-issue because you are either choosing to compete during incursions despite there being a 24h clear zone one way or the other, or you’re choosing to not participate because you want the loot.
The rubbish one is the hostile kill SMS 😬
That’s 24 hours
In Lindstrom or Penumbra, because let’s face it, that’s where everyone goes.
apac will have it worse tho
Mine doesn’t
🤣
Wow great rewards 🤣🤣
Another stupid incursion event that can’t be finished this sucks
It only scores for invaders
I am not a fan of this event. I just want to go around and do my missions and take out hostiles. I hardly ever PVP. I think those of us who don’t wish to participate should have another option. It’s like I can’t play until the event is over.
That's all scopley we're so excited about zero events today.... The absolute oath of revelation... @pseudo rune
Because no matter what I do, someone way more powerful than I am takes out my ships. I don’t have a fighting chance.
Okay, I will try again for those who still don't get it, US servers will have Stella SLB on 3-6 July, zero conflict with Incursions on 2 July. EU will have Stella SLB on 3-6 July with 1 day conflict with Incursions on 3 July. APAC will have Stella SLB on 3-6 July with 1 day conflict with Incursions on 4 July. This impacts APAC servers negatively. Or, am I missing something
whoever created this matchup needs to be fired. Literally causing an entire server not to be able to play the game
It looks like a whale got raided.
I just need to get my discovery killed by a kelvin/valdor/ktinga 48 times over the next 24 hours while avoiding all level 46 and higher ships, and all g3 epic ships...
If they split dmg vs raiding, it might be easier to determine how out of balance the server matching is. But literally one person sleeping with no shield can lose the entire event for one server.
Don’t I know it
You’re missing something.
Did you lose it for your server last time and they made fun of you for a week?
Nope.
the ship you use is not relevent, summon a Realta and die a lot
still can't find a g4 unc enemy ship to save my life. it's all pilums and other ships that give me 0 points to die to
Again Scopely screwed up. How can you complete an event when no one shows up in the only system (Yoruba) that counts for points. These need to be open to PvP in all systems so they can't avoid and preventing anyone from scoring. Having the points only count in one system doesn't work. Wake up Scopely!!!!!!!!!!!
Exploit and exterminate are both PVP, ya dolt
exploit does not 100% mean pvp - you can exploit a lot of things... missions, factions, etc. - I might give you a part of exploit meaning or can mean pvp but it's not "only pvp"
still, I literally have contact to players who 100% believe "STFC is a PVP game" - period. It is not, there is much to do here and you can do most of it without doing PVP once.
funny it says exploit but when we exploit (infinite refinery) we get in trouble
Doing most of it without doing PvP once doesn’t make it not a PvP game.
In fact, by that very admission you suggest there’s parts that require you to PvP
So it’s a PvP game?
I don’t think anyone’s suggested that’s all it’s about… but you can’t ignore the PvP aspect of it which makes it a PvP game 😅
I am not arguing STFC is not partially a PVP game but it is not "only" a PVP game - and telling someone "if you don't like pvp why are you playing this game" is wrong (that was basically the start of this discussion about 1.5 hours ago).
You’re playing a game which 100% requires PvP for some elements of it.
If you do not want to PvP, you are in the wrong game.
You may not enjoy it, and avoid engaging in it. That doesn’t make it any more a “not PvP” game.
as established, sine you can skip events "easily" (that has been said to me in regards to the events tomorrow during EU incursions) - no, there are not parts that require you to do PVP, you can skip them easily
This entire event is a wash right now. The other side won't show up to the PvP zones on either server. You can't score any SMS points when the other side is missing.
That’s like playing GTA without stabbing, shooting, picking up hookers, doing missions, because you don’t want it to be a game about criminality.
and STFC is about space... what's your point?
Incursions WERE fun last time. A complete waste of time when the opposing server stays in station the whole time.
That you cannot ignore that part of that is conflict with other commanders.
it can be but it's not the only thing to do here
Allow me to illustrate how early on you are told this is a PvP game
Wait, people play GTA without doing that?
Level 10
if you want to you can just mine 24/7 - there is nothing stopping you from doing so (although you get shot down, yes, but you don't have to shoot others).
It's boring for me, and most likely for you, but it is a play style someone might want to follow?
Oh level 2 actually 😬
You are told, minutes into this game that there are PvP elements.
You can avoid them, and I understand some wish to do that.
you are told that there can be enemies, not that you have to pvp
you just have to endure others doing pvp upon you
By virtue of having enemies, you will be participating in PvP.
Still PvP, running is a tactic 😬
no it's an avoidance of conflict
it becomes a tactic if it leads to a counter attack later - but if that does not happen it is not pvp
So 0 partpitation by server 42 in any sms system for under lv 14
@pseudo rune Why do base hits continue to count as a pvp win? People just spamming a dead base 9 million times for points is lame
because they cannot change, test, fix and debug those changes on short notice - 1-2 weeks is not enough to completely change event styles.
This means you owe server 34 all the sms chest cause otherwise this event is no ok
69 months later there will still be no change
true and as far as I know it was again reported and maybe will get fixed (or not...) but definitely not within those two runs.
The event needs be removed if you can't even give people the sms
If the other server gas no one to get sms from this event needs be canceled it is wrong that we cannot even participate in sms
You kind of have to hope someone from your ops level comes to your server first, then you can arrange to complete the event, otherwise I can see it being a bit of a lottery
Well, even going to the other server in ours nobody is showing up. That's a problem all around.
Do what did, go blow up 20 times and call it a day. Boring
I had to ask in GC last time, but it was difficult inbetween all the base cords being spammed lol
And this is why they should move people to a temp server for this event. Then let people go to town. It will show how many people want to play this crappy event
Rewards were pretty rubbish for the SMS last time, still the same now?
Nice job scopely pairing us with a server who isn’t hardly participating.. this is sad
They won't even kill a frankie with 20k FM giveaway
we all taking vacation day XD
Couldn’t even put commas in the points total yet eh?
It's 27:1
The lag on this event is nuts. I can't even see any ships to attack, and when I do they aren't there anymore.
Maybe you should get some servers built after, say, 1975...
@weak sand this was another worry of mine after hearing how bad the uk servers were a week before the event started. And they probably just put a band-aid on them and hoped they held
I see once again Scopely didn't learn or listen and being that Yoruba is basicly empty we can't complete the SMS. GJ Scopely.
Ok... and that's the second station in an over 20 system that has shielded. Did the rules change on that?
What players chose to do or not do with an event is down to them. Ultimately scopely notes the numbers that matter. If an event rewards, you enjoy it, do it. If neither, shield and have a break from the game. And if its the server I am invading level 20 plus system is fine by me 😉
Not that im aware
3 stations have now shielded... WTH, Scopely??
Any screens?
Just tried to get one, but he had ported out.
Next time I will screen shot it.
That’s my hunch, is they’re relocating and their bubble is coming back up but lag is showing them in the original spot too.
But if you can grab a screenshot I can try get someone looking at it.
The lag is just insane. I can't pvp anyone except to hit stations.
And that isn't real pvp.
PvAFK
LAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!
$scopley.. if you dont have the power to run these events, then just STOP
Don’t worry about that, you should be spending your time getting ready for us coming for you tomorrow 🤣
Lag fest. Come on Scopley
I admire your bravery.
Balls to the wall 😂
My question is where is this chest with a loyalty token or whatever? @pseudo rune
I’m either gonna smash or get smashed but im gonna have fun either way 🤣
Anyone got any tips on how to complete the AMS if the other server has turtled?
Don’t tell people that in here, they like to cry that nobody wants this.
I've given up on the SMS. There's no one to pvp except my own server
Kata we're same server. They're there, just try to send as many small ships at max point ships as you can.
Like we said to you guys a few days ago, we ain’t a massively strong server but we are full of people who will have a go. Win or loose I assure you it’s not gonna be a dead 24hrs
It took about an hour per milestone for me
Kill them all 🤣
Don't try to kill the other server, instead try to die as many times as you can to rack up the pvp loss points
Love it
I'm heading back to Yoruba but it's filled with 31 peeps.
If nothing else I like to think we succeeded in spicing up your discord server 😂😂
It's hard to fight when you can't see the enemy ships...
Don’t, they’ll cry again that you’re spying 🤣
I noticed a couple of ours got blocked 🤣
Did they?!
Yea there’s a few I can’t see now, maybe the nsfw room went too far
They left @quiet canopy so I don’t think that’s it.
That one’s already been cleaned once sorry 😬 <@&509691205798592532>
It amuses me, but I suspect it’s across the line.
Everyone's fully clothed and there's no suggestive gestures
Oh by whom?
By the server moderators
Ask nicely on galaxy chat on their server for someone to send a ship for you to suicide discoverys into for a bit. The trouble comes when members from your server then blow them up, instead of commiting suicide with weaker ships.
Ah I didn't get a notification that it was against the rules or that it was "cleaned". Still not sure which rule it's violating but I can just not post it again 🙂
First Day Apex Event is easy 😄 Just use your Transporter Patterns and recruit 😄 Easy
Yep, but now they got hostile hunt too so all is good.
i dont care 😄 I just want to burn down Bases and raid all the Stuff People have put together for monthes 😏
Gimme Incursion NOWWWW Please
Me too 🤷🏻♂️🤣
ya'll can have mine
I have the worst matchup! Server 60 vs 85. Server 85 isn’t even 4 months old
Yeah I’ve heard about this one
No one is getting the sms done. Level 40+ has no one to play with
Why is there a server only 4 months old? Why make new servers when the existing ones are half empty?
Accelerate their growth and merge them in at a progress-appropriate time
It’s why packs vary
Infinite Lameness
this incursion needs to be done on the weekends not during the week...total BS.
So basically give them somewhere safer to grow
*faster
Accelerate their progress to a level matching another server, then bump them in.
is there a bug with total incursion points? Repeat attacking the same dead base give 2-3mil points each.
It did that last time too
One message removed from a suspended account.
If they change the match each time it’s run then sometimes it will work sometimes it won’t but at least it will be varied
Works both ways, i have better things to do at weekends
what they really need to do is rotate it if this is every two weeks then one week on a weekday/one on a weekend. give opportunity to all players.
Completely agree with that, despite weekdays being far better for me.
I second that 👆
It seems that this event day is going well between 31vs 38. There’s no targets to go after! Other than the whales in deep space, nothing to go after.
this time seems worse than last incursion, why dont you get attack points for pvping in both your server and the other?
Thing is last time round people got involved to see what it was all about. Those who got slapped and spent more resources than that Gained aren’t playing this time
Welp I've raided everyone who isn't shielded on the enemy server, now what do we do? There's nobody even coming to the pvp systems, this server is a ghost town
Weekdays may well be the best time for most people, who knows. What i do know is that weekends would totally exclude me and may well others
Kill em when they come out at daily reset to do their dailies.
That's so far away, I'm bored now 😄
Nothing to stop you killing guys on your own server
go to their server, no one home
why can't it just be deal hull damage and get points? Why the defense/offense thing?
Somehow, a Level 7 player from the 167 server has crossed to the EU 119 server early
Is 119 a US or EU server?
EU Server
Il bet he did a server transfer
Level 7's can change servers
Some servers opened up normal transfers early the level 7 did a normal transfer but the visual is messed up and uses the incursion visual
Ah, ok. All good, then. 🖖
Don't we get a 3-day shield for incursion like last time?
Probably coming out "later this week" 😆
nope the shields we get from dailys can cover 24h for the event period
<@&509691205798592532> Server 163 has said some nasty things about us. Scopely has to take a clear position on such matters. Can you disable their shields in Level 19 Systems tomorrow as well?
I'd like to see what would happen if they just lowered the safe system bar with every run, ie. 19 to 18. And slowly squeeze out people into the danger zone.
And I thought I would get muted 😂
The lower it goes the more it affects players who have no impact on incursions.
How about you declare war on their entire server then and go slap ‘em around a bit? Oh wait…😏
Ask on gc for some PvP then, it’s no rocket science🤷🏼♀️
I’d quit. Don’t mind if others want to pew pew pixels - mind very much if I’m forced to pew pew pixels.
I'm not saying it would be very fair, or even fun for most, but it would be interesting.
Yes the graphics is not cutting edge. However for me the greatest moments in the game come from the social dimension. Often PvP and raids (whether I was losing or winning), led to hilarious conversations. These pixels create a complexity of interaction, with treaties and wars that I did not anticipate. Features such as raiding, territories and now incursions are therefore most valuable to me. And on my server I am known as a peaceful player.
I'm lvl 42 and the offense and defense event win/lose 46 ships are not on the points total or do you get any points for them. Think that 42s wouldn't face 46 or higher is kind of wishful thinking and you can't even earn any points if those persons target you soon as you enter the PVP system everytime.
You must be doing it wrong
Not me. I haven't been raided.
I think the next exciting step would be for three servers to meet. Enables many more strategies
These PvP event systems are so bad, pls try to remove them in the next release @pseudo rune
Trash event with trash rewards #IncursionsRTrash
Bad event made worse. Somehow.
I'll probably uninstall the game of these are going to be every two weeks
Yup. This has become a snooze fest. The only way to win is to be lucky enough to come across a whale who lapsed in their shield discipline.
They should have kept the 4 phases, but have the SMS's continue between phases (if you didn't finish attack sms during your first phase, you have another chance to wrap it up during the second time the phase is run). There also needs to be a PvE element to the SMS.
Server vs server scoring should only be during a phase, and there shouldn't be an attack/defense difference. One phase a server scores defending, while the other scores by invading. The 3x bonus to invaders is really out of balance and should be eliminated.
This would encourage those playing to participate in both phases, instead of just staying on the enemy server because of a 3x point multiplier.
Someone on one of the other discords summarized it perfectly…winning this event is dependent on players who aren’t playing, catch one snoozing big and it’s all over…so it’s not really an event at all…
Assuming that you have the ability to login at those intervals. Stackable shields need to be a thing for this very reason
That doesn't make Scopely money. That what these incursions are about.
They’re not making money on this. I doubt we get more than a half dozen more episodes of it. It’s just plain broken…
That could he true and I really hope they stop these
The rewards are garbage for what is done.
I hope they wake up and cancel it with this try
Those whales will probably get all their resources back, so who's making money?
I've got to say this is probably the worst designed event for an incursion and I have to think someone goofed. The whole point of the incursion is server vs. server, but for this event you have to coordinate with the other server players to have specific ships in specific systems. How does that make sense? Also, the points given for win/loss don't scale with ops level within each of the tiers.
https://stfc.space/events/62e948f51d2684e5a61c5853
A better design would give points for pvp kills using those specific ships in any zone
Why have these events we all get hyped for then lag it out. Fix this man ridiculous
Seriously horrible lag any time you get raiding
The fact that you can just keep hitting empty bases over and over and score points has to be one of the dumbest mechanics in any game ever
Just pull the event so bad 👎
They needed to bake this one longer in the dev oven
<@&509691205798592532> any responses to how bad this incursion is?
Why are excursion exocomps in my exocomp refinery if they activate on purchasing? It’s just ridiculous to say the least.
The game will never be fair scopely doesn't really care if you stay or quit they want the whales/spenders to stay
It's like a casino they only pander to top spenders because they know they'll make the money from them regardless
Yup. I’m pretty much done. Hope the whales have fun playing with themselves.
Don't worry once the smaller fish quit the whales will get bored and leave
Cause unlike a casino the game requires smaller players to keep the big spenders entertained
They worked hard on that ship. Give them your money
its more that one afk whale can kill every single bracket
True I didnt think of that
I sont have the amalgam so I'm just trying to cheese damage done and champ
🤣 playing with themselves
Get rid of the conditions for the LB being on the other server
this is really boring
staring at my phone for an hour waiting for someone on a dead server to go to a "designated system" for 20 people to mob them is not fun
we are basically waiting for a 50+ to come in and wait in line to die fighting him just for the sms
No one can complete pvp because no one goes to the system. People who have been pvp'ing all over the server all day get no rewards because they can't get anyone to pvp in the pvp zone with them.
Yea really…
Most of us im sure have already seen her video! 😂
At least you don’t have an alliance tanking a server because they are petty children.
after a few dozen of these people will eventually learn to use a shield if they can't bother to be on
Some people always need to learn the hard way
😅
Nothing to see here…
The sms pvp events are among the worst they’ve ever set up.
Basically have to beg someone to show up with a ship that scores
And then watch as that one ship gets swarmed by a dozen people.
So you're complaining that there aren't enough oblivious easy targets blabbing to you on GC? 🤨
Our PvP system has been empty most of the time. Racing other people from my server for kills just to end up killing ships that don’t score for my event is frustrating.
No one is grinding, no one is mining, obviously no one is in the 40-44 PvP system and most of the raids were exhausted in the first 6 hours. I like the event, but not when 99% of the opposing server is bubbled out in low level space.
More PvP here than on 52 right now lol
45 minutes later and my ship still sits untouched… 😒
Did I say you were complaining about our GC? You remarked on a combination of things that add up to wanting fish in a barrel.
But why would you do those things during this event? They just make you easy targets?
This is why this event is bound to disappoint: all of the event rules have loopholes, people play the loopholes rather than the event because the event looks to be gratuitously expensive by design.
bad event coming soon 👎
Stackable shields will never be changed from what they are now. Simply because they ruin raiding. If using 3 shields over 24h is hard use 2x 12h shields or buy a 24h shield. We got enough alliance credits from COW to cover 30 days of 24h shields
Thanks for sending the selfie.
I know, you have aspirations.
Why would I bother? You got nothing the first time, and I’ve already gone through middle school.
Lol what's this BS going on here
LND
would stack my shields for 6 years and comeback to a dead game
Relax, we don't need that kind of talk in here.
Love it how many people complain and blame the developers for offering subpar content, yet don't quit and go look for entertainment elsewhere
or is that just the us running through incursions again? 👀😂
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Can someone show scoring from each event of Incursion?
Is scoring same as last time or something been changed?
So ours went from about even 30 minutes ago (134bil to 143bil) to the other server having over 300bil. Uh...not sure how that's possible
A whale went down.
Someone with trillions of stuff is being smashed by Amalgams as we speak 😅
In 30 minutes? That's 15bil of straight dil raided. 500mil a minute
Better find that whale fall and stem the loss or your scoreboard's going to look like ours:
Yeah, I’m on the other side of 56 this edition, and I was definitely sending in cheap miners that weren’t getting you points. Cost me all of 2k lat to clear the SMSes - and essentially zero effort.
So many bubbles this round... kept running into the same 5 to 10 players all day. Maybe the should do an opt-in where players from each level bracket across multiple similar servers can transfer into a neutral server and are randomly assigned teams.
There’s nothing wrong with people choosing to play that way. If they don’t see the rewards as being worth the bother, they make the right choice in staying away and staying safe.
It's dead bases. Bigger the base (even no rss) still scores ridiculous points on hitting it
@desert laurel Can you please share scoring system from each event?
https://stfc.space/
has all the events and how they're scored.
To me, it's the same as the first run, just the timers are different
That link doesn't explain the incursion scoring of why dead bases with 0 looted rss and 0 dmg done are giving incursion points. Higher lvl base, higher points awarded. It's like when dead bases used to give ship xp
Yes. Main scoreboard. I get the xslb 15 pt pvp win despite it being dumb
It's probably not giving pts at all, but rather updating the score from the labor of others
Is it + for a win on the main server event?
Why? I did 0 to the score for main event, shouldn't tell me anything. Also dead point at night, and reliable that different level bases give differing results. Not doubting it could be that...but...scopely math
If so it'll only be getting +X from your dead base hit, but entirely swamped by whatever other people are raiding
Banners on ALB and IMS type events always show the score gained = to the difference since the last time you scored
So, e.g. CoW ALB, sometimes you only see the points for your hit, and sometimes you get that plus (inclusive?) of several other people grinding hostiles at once
I know Zab. Thanks
More likely there's another night owl emptying a base somewhere 😄
Should it update if I get 0 though?
I don't have an event running right now, what are the scoring metrics on the event?
It's xslb pvp win, then incursion main. No rss. No dmg
IIRC wins/losses were giving points last time?
Can you SS the scoring on it?
45 min to an hour ago it was 140 to 145ish. Our whales are acounted for within the last 15 not raided
Check your battle logs?
If your ship gets any shot off, it's going to count as 'damage'
there's still a combat of sorts...
Dead bases give 0.
probably still enough to trigger an event update
I have no way to prove it one way or another, but I imagine whatever software trigger that fires when a combat ends (win or lose) to update events (e.g.damage) is making the event total update, which in turn triggers the banner update
the totals aren't added per shot in a combat damage event (we'd be flooded with banners for each one), so the trigger must be at end-of-combat
it's a guess, admittedly
points wise, it's not only whales that have lots of rss
For sure. Could be that. Bigger thing is...400bil in under and hour, tripling their score with our whales accounted for? During off peak time?
Trust me. I know why they edged ahead when night started after we had a 40bil lead. But our servers are fairly similar in rss and shielding behavior
no im on his server, i see them just hitting the same bases over and over that are dead and empty on repeat
like the found a glitch
No one has a trillion. 30bil are our whales
Could test it. Load up a miner full of something, maybe high value, and start smashing bases
Or scan the cargo of the base hitters and see if they're full of weird stuff
Fill up on klingon separatists
Wait, use an amalgam and overcap it.
It's not about the bases, we know that, they're empty. So a glitch would have to come from the attacker
i caugght a sally
Do you know is there again same event where can farm points by hitting destroyed empty station?
Yes, it's running again.
That's what I'm saying candle, something weird is happening. But no points as described should come from anything other than raiding (bases) or dmg done to players...unless I vastly misunderstood sobering
Something*
That event also explains their behavior, but some believe it's something more. So I'm suggesting some tests to run that could explain what they've observed.
You're underestimating how rich whales are, and who has trillions from them.
Trouble is, how to determine which points in the server event banners belong to your hit
Unless they're a baby server? I dunno how old 75 is
Agreed, no one believes your word about a shared banner display 🤣
I was present at one whale fall, and I'm rich now. There are some low spenders with even more, because they chose to raid while I chose to defend
Before that windfall I had something like 3b.
@desert laurel do you know where the compensation for server 123 is?
we have no incursions and nothing to do ^^
30 bil. That's it. Max our server has in raidable rss on the biggest whale.
We're 9 months old
Sorry, I vaguely remember the comp chest for bye week as garbo. I didn't really follow it after that
It was not enough relay parts to reach t2, and like 3 Una shards
740mil a minute for an hour of pure dil doesn't compute
Anyway, that's fine, I'm not suggesting it was a whale fall. I'd look for a bug that affects what counts as raided materials.
Thanks candle, I'll pass it along and we'll try to test some stuff
I don't think I'll be able to finish all of my SMS events this time around...
I just hope I can find some suitably large ships to suicide against 😂
I notice folks get into a kill frenzy... so throw anything that can reach there.. like a Freesha 😉
Anyone from server 34 in here?
No, they're too busy argueing about ROE
I just wanted to see who they got paired with and how they were doing in incursions
Had high hopes for this event. A dud and a waste of time. You know it’s bad when the whales, level 40 plus, talk about quitting the game because of Incursions.
whales are 50+ now
The porpoises are who you’re talking about, they’re usually just upset because G4 world sucks.
Feedback on this round of incursions for me.
A) Changing from the serial 6 hr to simultaneous 12 hr attack/defend events was both a benefit and a hinderance but my biggest issue is that this change wasnt announced ahead of time.
B) Points need to be even for invading/defending; right now it is a detriment to try and stop a raid or other attack on your own server as you are giving them way more damage points than you get back
C) the attack/defend events being zone restricted is just silly, for the most part i see a ton of one servers ships just sitting there waiting for the other ones to show up, this is just a waste of time and not fun
Point A I think is the source of a massive number of the issues around empty servers
Everyone’s on the other server looking for the other side, who are on theirs.
exactly, I like having 12 hours to do them, but everyone wants to attack, thus no one is around to do the defense side
Scoply needs to display the full number because the 40 score is either missing a 0 or the bar is bugged. But that seems just to complicated apparently
Is posting it in one place complicated too?
It’s also spamming and against the #🌠-rules-and-roles12
Its 2 messages. "Spamming"
last time around they didnt handle anything 1 trillion or over, just didnt display the 0s
If you wanna chat about it, post it in chat, if you wanna provide feedback, post it in feedback, don’t scattergun it looking for someone to pick a fight with on it cos let’s face it, not a single soul disagrees that the numbers don’t represent well 🤣
The only one picking a fight rn is you harmonious death but thanks for the feedback
Kinda sucks because a lot of the server rallied overnight to try and catch up but it was never a possibility in the first place
But thats what happens when they get one good raid you can't defend
Ya win some ya lose some yea ? Lol
Exactly that, one huge base score and it's over, can't do much about it
just enjoy the pvp 🙂
happened to us overnight too, we had a massive lead, but 2 people with billions forgot to shield and poof they doubled their score and then some, we were unable to defend it and they were getting points off our defense at the same time
it should be aggressor gets 3x points, so doesn't matter which server you are on
so if you are defending you make the attack first they dont' get bonus points
They got a base with trillions on my server. Poor dude came back and had half his base gutted. Apparently he wasn't the only big base who got hit but he's the only one I know of
I don't think agresser should get bonus at all. It should be even across the board. And they need to seriously up pvp points based on hull damage
Or difference in ship strength scoring
Maybe add a mining component to get the non pvp players and lower levels scoring points, make that 3x on the other server. Also while mining no shield so you can't afk it
Point A was announced, it's in the ingame news and I believe in #💫-event-information here?
Other bits I agree with. B is to encourage spending on additional conduits I think, and to reward venturing into "hostile" territory... but meh.
C... yeah, it'd be great if everything gave points everywhere, but the whiners are already out in force 😂 At least with specific systems you can stand a chance of finding the right tier of ship right now
I think if they ditched the open systems requirement, it would help with getting camped by bigger ops players looking for damage points
didn't happen on our server, but i've seen it happen on others
By the time incursion 4 of 5 rolls around all the bad shielders will be drained and then itll be a system of bubbled bases with people desperately looking for some raid points lol
Maybe add some capture the flag aspect by dropping fake loot bases for peeps to find and fight over
Yeah, probably a neat way to reduce the number of servers
ok, so yes it has the 2x12hr in the event info, but with the last one they mentioned that Server A would do Attack/Defense/Attack/Defense and that it would flip for the next incursion. When they changed our opponents they didnt mention that it would be changing from the old one at a time. That is what I am commenting on
Servers merge based on upkeep costs, player population, and how much money they get from that server
how else would 2x12 hr of two events work, without stretching to 48 hours of pvp event? 😐
oh i know what you mean and I missed that completely, I just wish it was part of the change of opponent post too
I made a bad assumption it would be the same as last time and didnt read the new event list
TBF it’s rock and hard place anyway
Event reset is the busiest time on a lot of servers
Whoever went on the attack then had a massive advantage.
Short of making it run 48 hours (I can hear the tears of PvE from here) or having the two run simultaneously, there’s no win.
we got most of our points from the night watch doing their raiding elsewhere I think 😂
Raiding while most sleep is the biggest advantage
But participation wise, attacking at reset wins.
Hey Scamly...Let's start an event during a early week workday, but in the middle of it... then give the other side the overnight (midnight to Noon) while (IDK) EVERYONE's sleeping and expect the overnight sleeping people to catch up??!?!?! Scamly, can we not do this again?...Ever?
Is it apex or Borg event at reset today
Apex
Ya know… I would like to try and compete, but when you put a 2 month old server against one flying around in 5m+ ships… there’s just no way for us to compete at all.
At least we can drop to a lower system and just shield for the whole event
At least it's only 5m+ ships
The bar is bugged. [36] is winning 🥳
Well we’re capped at 39 so that’s really all that we can get hit by lol. Watching a maxed Amalgram drain bases in 2 trips 😂
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Thx
Wow this is a fun mission.... Wait not fun.. What's the right words... Ah yes.. Mind numbingly boring... That's better🤣🤣🤣
I’ll take it for those rewards I can finish it in like a day
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True but.... Zzzzz.. 😂
Im ops 46, yet to even get half way 😂
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all i do is troll troll troll...no matter what
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I can only imagine that it's a self-referential comment 😂
You missed the pre edit
aaah
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Alliance chat is broken (again), @pseudo rune . Pls have them fix that asap. You can't post cords, it triggers the foul language ****'s
Have you finished that Klingon mission where you need to mine 5m par? If not, I'll suggest you to wait and finish both simultaneously...
Does anyone know why they have censored coordinate links ??
@pseudo rune <@&509691205798592532>
Escalated already 🙂
They thought it was too easy..
New mechanic? You have to guess where they are attacking lol 😜
Even censors Marcus wtf
This really makes people want to pvp because it's so balanced
Please sell the game to a publisher who knows about games... that can no longer be surpassed in incompetence and embarrassment
👋🏻👋🏻 @near smelt
You’re on TV!
This event sucks.
So….. EA?
Yes! 💯😳
All better as scopley
you never played a F2P game by EA I see 😅
I know it’s not obvious but I was being sarcastic 😬😬
the inability to rapidly communicate and post coordinates during a multi server pvp event ... i have no polite words for this
I don’t think any of us do 😬😬
you won't be able to write those words
I tried all sort of avoidance technique, they have seriously upped their ace in censoring
It can be summed as: * * * *
look like it is working again, they reverted their change
Is working again👍🏻
Yeah we are happy about the little things🤦🏼
invading failed.
Somebody forgot to reset points?


