🌌-galaxy-chat

[near bloom]

Get on it Commander!

[faint vessel]

good excuse to kill some miners lol

[smoky sinew]

Another stupid thing brought to the game. Soon the whales will be alone in the Scopely ocean cause the smaller fishes will leave ..and then the whales will disappear one by one

[faint vessel]

they'll just find some new fishies for the whales dishies

[boreal shard]

Hi all, I’m trying to get my second faction lock (Romulan, 2.8m to go). What system is best for grinding out that all important reputation in Fed space, or would it be better to farm in Ty’Gokor? My best ship is a 1.9 power Saladin, which can’t hit many veterans in Alpha before dying.

[stark latch]

Scopley can't make people play....they could pay people to play for the whales I guess. Make it a job and outsource it to China or India...

[twilit lintel]

when i was grindin i always went to that lan space in klingon

[near bloom]

If you’ve locked Kling then batter Ty’Gokor, failing that is it Denebola? You’ll need a max Chen though.

[boreal shard]

I’ve only locked Fed atm.

[near bloom]

Ah I’m conflating games.

[twilit lintel]

oh then best go to

[near bloom]

Nope that’s the opposite

[boreal shard]

Why would I hit the faction I’m trying to lock-

[near bloom]

It’s the one by Wolf with the veterans that he needs to hit.

[twilit lintel]

ohhhh lol my bad puts on glasses

[boreal shard]

Sol? I can barely hit the level 40 veterans, let alone 49s 😂😭

[near bloom]

No, the other side

There’s one by there with vets.

[faint vessel]

they must be finding players from somewhere, else they wouldnt be opening all these new servers still

[near bloom]

Sorry, it’s been most of a year since I did anything in game and I was a long way past G3 🙈

[boreal shard]

The only ones I can think of are those in Alpha Centauri……which are the ones I’ve been trying to grind with, but still explode after 5-10 ships.

[crude phoenix]

fail whales need new places to find where they can outspend every one 😉

[twilit lintel]

is this what ur tryin to do ?

[near bloom]

Nah needs veterans

[twilit lintel]

oh

[near bloom]

But there’s nothing as good as TyGokor

Just “least bad”

[twilit lintel]

true

well be safe out there ppl hittin everything lol

[boreal shard]

So wouldn’t Ty’Gokor be the best place to go, if it gets more rep than any of the others I can hit?

[near bloom]

I ain’t out there anyway 🤣

[near bloom]

If you’re locked Fed, no.

[frank bloom]

How do I claim this?

[twilit lintel]

ohhh i thought it was just me lol

[near bloom]

If you’ve locked Fed and keep going to Ty’Gokor your rep will increase and get out of hand, and you’ll be further from your third faction lock.

[boreal shard]

So it’s just gonna be a long grinding game………

[near bloom]

Welcome to STFC!

[twilit lintel]

u can also upgrade ur skills in command fo ur rep i think

[near bloom]

I remember being able to do millions of rep in a day 😅

[twilit lintel]

good ol days huh lol

[near bloom]

I wouldn’t call them good.

[twilit lintel]

better then now?

[near bloom]

But the good times I had in game were good. Just not the same times that I could do that 🤣

[near bloom]

Don’t play, so no, now I’m much happier 🤣

[dull mason]

Hi, currently my Fed's are
75 and a half mil
Roms are 45m
Klingon goes up and down 11m

[twilit lintel]

u stopped playin the game wow never thought someone would quit i thought buying packs was their addiction lol

[near bloom]

Howdy - Jesus you got big Barny!

[near bloom]

I had to cold Turkey, threw a deletion request in and handed my red coat in.

As you say, too many draws.

[late pawn]

Quit, yet is in the discord 24/7. So not really "quit". Kind of like the junky that sits outside a hospital licking the bottles people threw away.

[mortal elk]

yeah, Tyg will be the best option for romulan rep until you can hit the 49 capitol traders or upper reaches of g4 space (~lv46 system hubs / warp 120 IIRC)

[near bloom]

“Maybe it’ll improve” (it didn’t), “but the people” (will be there still, and group suffering is still suffering), “just this last milestone” (there’s always another one)

[mortal elk]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-remark-resemble-foghorn-leghorn-gif-14871302

[twilit lintel]

space jam was a good movie

sad they made another one and it sucked

[mortal elk]

I need to watch the remake, even if it upsets my inner child 🤣

[near bloom]

Bit harsh, given that my Discord account has been deleted for 5 months and my game account for nearly 9 😂

[late pawn]

Eh, uhmm you're here aren't you?

[twilit lintel]

the remake is junk it will make ur inner self cry out

[mortal elk]

different discord account btw 😂

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-roger-rabbit-choque-accidente-gif-19070857

[late pawn]

I get that. But this is still the STFC official discord, unless I took a wrong turn somewhere.

[twilit lintel]

niceeeeeee who framed rodger rabbit

[mortal elk]

he went hard on the deleting... just poof and vanished out of our lives with nary a goodbye

[near bloom]

Finally feel like I’m in a place where I hate the game enough to talk to some of the people I abandoned, explain why I abandoned them and not get drawn back into the game.

[twilit lintel]

ur be back

[late pawn]

So you're basically at the level of Scopely Executive

It doesn't make enough money to care about, but it doesn't lose money so you can't get rid of it.

[twilit lintel]

tell them to fix this arc aka scrap it lol

[late pawn]

Just have to keep that red headed step child around. Feeding it. And grumbling the entire time.

[near bloom]

It also helps that I’ve assigned my STFC money to biking and my STFC time to RL community volunteering and gym 🙂

[mortal elk]

Not seen anything wrong with the arc so far... just people's attachment to the state of their pixels 👀

[near bloom]

Zab, lost two pounds yesterday 🤣

[undone delta]

@twilit lintel You have to purchase the Forbidden Technology weapon: "Tarka's Isolytic Weapon"

[faint vessel]

ghost ships? ships/npcs/players not targetable/the building acquisition mission broken so they had to comp the building to everyone..... so many regression bugs are back

[near bloom]

@mortal elk 😂

[late pawn]

For the most part it's ruined diplomacy. But that may adjust. There's just not a lot of difference between alliance state of war and not war anymore. But still for the most part, it's been a minor inconvenience.

[twilit lintel]

i aint buying nothing in this game plus now they added this arc to get even more cash out of you is crazy

[dull mason]

Filmed in England

[mortal elk]

That's not healthy!

[late pawn]

That's the purpose of every arc.

[faint vessel]

oooh classic, yoink - thats being added to my movie list tonight

[mortal elk]

Unless it was a sincerely good movement...

[dull mason]

Great ✅

[twilit lintel]

wait wait u never seen that movie lol

LOL

GET IN MY BELLY

[near bloom]

It was a lot of work - I either do 30 minutes HIIT or an hour of trail biking, plus 90 minutes of free weight training

[faint vessel]

ofcourse i have, was born in 1985 lol

[late pawn]

It didn't seem broken for me. It's weird , nobody in my alliance had issues getting the building.

[twilit lintel]

ohhhh so we're the same age

[near bloom]

There’s a few of us it seems

[dull mason]

I've never seen
Austin powers 1/2
Or Mr bean

[ebon temple]

I do wonder what the average age is.....

everyone in my server seems to be around 50!

[unique oar]

I have decided to delete my account due to this arc, doing dailies and missions has just become too much of an issue with systems being camped at all times. Wish you all well...LLAP

[twilit lintel]

looks at rag

[ebon temple]

im not....ima young gun

39

[twilit lintel]

50 really lol

[late pawn]

I'm 42 and most of my alliance is older or around the same age that I am.

[mortal elk]

middle aged seems to be the most prevalent

[ebon temple]

https://tenor.com/view/great-now-i-smell-like-midlife-crisis-liz-lemon-tina-fey-30rock-midlife-crisis-gif-20050866

[final cove]

you're just one wrong sneeze , wrong fart, standing up wrong, sleeping wrong, from paralysis , young would be mid 20's

[near bloom]

Real quitters just quit quietly and then come taunt people months later with their newfound freedom

[keen cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/therapist-oompa-loompa-therapist-nod-nod-therapy-gif-25106215

[dull mason]

You are all whippersnappers LoL 😂🤣

[ebon temple]

no ones ever called me 'mid life' before.....

thnk i might need to go in a corner and cry.

[crude phoenix]

and yet it looks like a playground most of the time on some servers

[mortal elk]

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is entirely optional 😄

[ebon temple]

women make us grow up......

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/adult-life-adulting-gif-5853314

[near bloom]

I agree 🤣

[twilit lintel]

i guess if you could smell this server it would smell like mothballs

[mortal elk]

my wife started painting 40k recently... I think the opposite happened to me 🤣

[ebon temple]

https://tenor.com/view/well-done-way-to-go-gif-25640418

get that man a medal.

[late pawn]

Unless you're spending ^$1000 a month on STFC, you don't need to announce your departure. Scopely doesn't and can't care about you. It's not worth it. Plus Monopoly revenue will make up your $10-20 a month spend anyways.

[dull mason]

Very nice 🚴 😎👌

[undone delta]

Nah, more like Bengay 😄

[near bloom]

Thanks, was a good day! Sherwood Pines “The Outlaw” trail

[near bloom]

They didn’t even care about me then 🤣

[late pawn]

This is true.

[twilit lintel]

or me

[dull mason]

I've been around the Og Sherwood forest 😄

[late pawn]

There aren't enough people playing for low spenders to make a difference at all. You're just wasting server space.

[near bloom]

I knew you were old, did you hang round with Robin Hood?

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-rolling-carpool-gif-5110042

[novel leaf]

Same here, I spend around $300-$500 a month. I'm just tired of it. It's not the fact that there is PvP, it's the fact that they are encouraging the worst players to make it even less enjoyable by rewarding them. I'm out too.

[twilit lintel]

.........

i spent 40 bucks since i been on this game

[faint vessel]

you just havent lived 😛

[dull mason]

They have a holiday park there and next to it is Clumber Park 🌳🌳

[twilit lintel]

300-500 a month every month oh my

[late pawn]

It's literally been a minor inconvenience since the arc rolled out. I guess I've had to pay a little more attention and may actually get attacked, so it's not Farmville anymore. But so far hasn't been the doom and gloom everyone is crying about.

[faint vessel]

yay! i'm going to be young forever then hahaha

[twilit lintel]

this is just day 2

[near bloom]

This depends on your server though in fairness

[novel leaf]

Maybe not on your server. On ours, they were blocking the systems to the missions and not letting anyone complete them. Had to cloak just to finish up the main mission.

[crude phoenix]

depends if u have elite pvp-ers with endless money who can shoot without fear of reprisal ;p

[late pawn]

The server basically threw out RoE. And camped mission spots. And hits daily spots. But I've just worked around it. No real issues.

[dull mason]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwood_Forest

[near bloom]

I know there will be a small group of people on 168 that spend their divorce money on ships so they can be relevant somewhere and harass everyone they can find; but come incursions funnily enough they’re nowhere to be found.

[twilit lintel]

they're doing that on my server also

[late pawn]

They're doing the same thing on my server. Some of my alliance have cried just the same. It's just been easy to avoid.

[dull mason]

I was on 179 they have had 2 mergers since

[near bloom]

Who have?

[faint vessel]

isthat the one with the wheelchair zipwire? 🤔 i might be mistaken, i saw something on bbc1 about a national park up north - this seemed to ring some bells in my head.

[late pawn]

I finished everything I needed to. Got targeted once in freebooter space. Got killed on the mission early and then completed it. Got killed later while floating. I get people are used to NEVER being attacked unless incursions or OPC. But grow up. It's not that bad.

[dawn compass]

How do you get help now? The useless Scopely Support System just sends me round and round in circles now.

[dull mason]

Might be, I'd have to check...❔

[novel leaf]

Some of us have limited time to play, and if that means you can't complete missions/events/dailies because of increased pvp, then why play?

[faint vessel]

[anywhere is up north from bournemouth lol]

[near bloom]

You couldn’t get help to start with

[late pawn]

I completed everything. Didn't add to my day.

[dawn compass]

That is true. Maybe I'm the stupid one.

[late pawn]

This is all easily completed. We have the same people on our server. 1: it'll die down over time and work itself out. 2: it's easy to work around. 3: it's technically always existed people are just afraid of the consequences. 4: there will be adjustments to things coming out of this.

[faint vessel]

email them.... playerId, screenshots/videos/description. some get bot replies - others dont, you actually get a human #👽-how-to-contact-support

[hazy coral]

anyone knows how long scopley will celebrate the timechange with different event starts?

[novel leaf]

It's all about $$ anyway. If Scopely sees a drop in revenue, they'll change it.

[dawn compass]

Hahah!! Nice one. You're funny.

[late pawn]

Maybe. But STFC is definitely not their cash cow.

[limpid patrol]

Most have asked for decreases in play time not increases because of constant repairs and warp times

[novel leaf]

I've just been unhappy with the game for a while. This was just the thing that pushed me to stop.

[faint vessel]

believe it or not, i'm not joking. rev deuce did a whole youtube video about the best way to get hold of customer services

[ebon temple]

i would NEVER do that.....tee hee hee

[dawn compass]

Trust me. You are!! You might not know it. But that approach is I believe, the definition of a 'Joke'.

[late pawn]

Sounds like the best thing for you. But if you're here to announce it, you don't really want to stop. Or you just would. Nobody from Scopely listens to people's cries of leaving. Obsidian sees them all day, I'm sure he's numb to it.

[near bloom]

It makes them plenty.

[keen cosmos]

Now that’s a name I haven’t seen in a long time @near bloom

[late pawn]

Didn't say it didn't make them money. But it's like 6th or 7th in revenue for their line of games.

[keen cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-you-have-no-power-here-the-two-towers-king-theoden-gif-4882470

[near bloom]

Second.

[late pawn]

Wrong.

[twilit lintel]

i just tried to mine and not even 5 mins i got hit

[ebon temple]

mine?

no mining allowed for 3 days.....

[near bloom]

$604m as of October, compared to $310m for Monopoly.

[late pawn]

I was wrong as well. It's currently 9th.

[twilit lintel]

ohhhhh you think this is gonna change after this event is done LOL awwwww u must have faith lol

[near bloom]

Has it shifted that much?

[cerulean bloom]

Good luck getting your Monaveen pulls. Autogrinders are now getting hit WAY more than they used to because of the new incentives for PvP galaxy-wide. These changes are running off the vast majority who prioritize PvE. I mean seriously, leave it to Scopely to give us 15,000 new grind loops and then incentivize players to grief each other to the point that even completing 1-2 is a task... the game is fast becoming too difficult to do even simple tasks. It just isn't fun anymore.

[twilit lintel]

ppl are still gonna hit you even after this event is done

[late pawn]

If you aren't OPC it doesn't even give them credit. Your server must be a little slow in understanding the game.

[twilit lintel]

they love it

[faint vessel]

okay i'm imagining over a 1000 emails sent to /received from scopely in the last 5yrs then

[twilit lintel]

they dont care bout credits at this point

[near bloom]

5th

In revenue

[crude phoenix]

still scores for the warroom. OPC gives extra

[ebon temple]

Scopley have added the best thing in 6 months this arc with the ex-borg faction store, your old grinds just got a load easier/negated.

I never have to grind actian or voyager hostiles ever again.

[dawn compass]

I would ask why you had to send over 1000 E-Mails, and indeed who was at the other end laughing at you consistently falling for their Joke.

[keen cosmos]

Hmmm so there’s a chance the whales on S17 could get banned for their cheating 🤔

[twilit lintel]

roe is gone on all sevvers after this event is done YOU will still get hit no matter what

[late pawn]

According to devs hitting on active mine doesn't score. But they didn't word that or say it in the notes. But who knows. It's hard to tell because the 10k from a Pkill is so tiny.

[near bloom]

Howdy!

[ebon temple]

Our RoE should hold stong, we have a single line that allows for emks etc ONLY if the event is an ALB or SLB.
The warroom is an AMS, so miners etc will still be protected.

[keen cosmos]

You can no longer mute me for tagging Eco 😈

[cerulean bloom]

People have always hit each other in "aggressive" ways. Now they're encouraged to do that by game mechanics, which fundamentally unbalances the game. And of course Scopely doesn't understand that because none of them actually play their own game on real servers.

[keen cosmos]

I am free to torment him

[twilit lintel]

ppl even getting hit in token space now lol

[keen cosmos]

With rick rolls of course

[crude phoenix]

i dont trust that the devs know what they are doing ? so far this ghost ship thing after a change they did proves very diofficult to fix

[near bloom]

Good

[ebon temple]

thats up to each servers roe/alliances to try to enforce.

[high crow]

We did our even peacefully we ask another alliance to feed us with realtas

[crude phoenix]

and they should change the description since ppl onl;y have that to go on since in game communications after the fact are non existant

[twilit lintel]

can't enforce something when nobody cares anymore

[ebon temple]

WarRoom event was easy, most finished it last night.

[late pawn]

I'm not sure if they do. But just going off what @heady moon said in here. But he was also wrong about there being anything crediting for just random open PVP. So right now it's a bit wild west.

[strong nacelle]

@heady moon Any more updates to the ghost ship bug? This is literally game breaking and whatever hotfix they deployed doesn’t work past 60 seconds of restarting the game

[twilit lintel]

Don't forget we are the beta testers

[mortal elk]

We do this to my boss at work... guy still keeps not using headphones on calls

[late pawn]

ROE is kind of like what we think Presidents in the US are limited to. We think there's restrictions to keep them from doing dumb things, but really it's always just been a gentleman's agreement that we got complacent with.

[faint vessel]

or juggling real life ie... working in a hosptial/care environment/in a tractor 20 miles from the nearest mobile signal.
so much has changed since lockdown, when people were forced to stay at home with nothing better to do than play stfc.

[mortal elk]

We can only assume he enjoys it 🤣

[strong nacelle]

This release isn’t even beta status, it’s more like pre alpha

[mortal elk]

"Hey google, play..."

[fast marlin]

@terse jackal This massive pvp, without respect for ships doing missions, events... will make many players leave the game, according to what I have been reading on my server, or it is limited in time, or in specific systems to have pvp combats to score in the war rom. the exodus of players can affect the future of this game

[keen cosmos]

Despacito

[shut flame]

Windows server sucks

To learn

[dawn compass]

Heheh You still think this game has a future?? Aww Bless Ya!

[twilit lintel]

i hear linux is better

[late pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-crying-baby-crying-gif-5943733

[keen cosmos]

Tbh I unironically love the song, but it’s such a classic troll. It’s always funny

[ebon temple]

I dont mind the PVP event, however it is probably better if it has designated systems instead of server wide.
And f the war room really is every week on rotation, that will cause issues long-term.

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-trekkie-worf-klingon-singing-gif-18048533

loved that ep

[late pawn]

War Room could be fixed by just removing points for direct random PVP. OPC raiding and it's all good.

[fast marlin]

With this latest update, I see a black future... very black

[mortal elk]

he presented part of the UK New Years Eve party this year (last year?), and did a set... was really good 😂

[ebon temple]

how often are people OC anymore (except in lucrative) with the reseach, artifacts and officers. MOst nodes are smaller than a miners OPS level.

[faint vessel]

the instant uplift in SHB/OSB has been very useful at lower level ops - even with the building at 5/70

[mortal elk]

think it's been confirmed as not every week

[late pawn]

I see them constantly. Got someone 500k OPC on ISO yesterday

[twilit lintel]

this event would be good every month lol

[keen cosmos]

https://youtu.be/nprWq8jXWAk?si=Xz2Vp6iWoYYdcynq

[shut flame]

Never used it

[late pawn]

The other option is keep OPC as primary source. Add a few systems that count double or triple the current player points. As they're basically meaningless amounts. 10k for a Pkill when you can get 50-300k from one OPC hit easy.

[mortal elk]

More to the point, windows server OS is expensive 😄

[late pawn]

Troll through other alliances territory. Look for their ISO miners. Kill.

[ebon temple]

nice in thoeiry, but after 5 mins, no ones going to mine.

My server now is dead lol, no ships for me to kill 😦

[rugged reef]

https://tenor.com/view/only-war-reason-gaming-warhammer-gif-17304554

Scopely right now

[mortal elk]

I caught one guy autofarming this morning...

[rugged reef]

He just had the new artifact is all

[mortal elk]

Apparently server is trying to outlaw hitting in augment/texas space now...

(not my fault)

[late pawn]

Interesting. I mined all night without issue on my server.

[ebon temple]

https://tenor.com/view/pew-futurama-phillip-j-fry-pew-pew-pew-billy-west-gif-5364124

[ionic dust]

If I had known they were going to make the game unplayable, I would have stocked up on some things before this arc started.

[late pawn]

Texas space makes sense. They setup a whole mechanic where you're supposed to sit there and auto-farm. Hitting there seems ridiculous

[ebon temple]

tip.....always keep a stockpile 😉

[late pawn]

The shield dropping of Texas hostiles would need to change for auto-farm to NOT be the intended mechanic.

[mortal elk]

hmm

50m points isn't even difficult to hit as a solo rogue... just tap a few lucrative miners 👀

saves mining too

[late pawn]

OPC will dry up pretty fast. But the game also REQUIRES obscene amounts of mined resources. So they're basically slowing everyone's progress. Which won't keep happy whales or anyone.

[cerulean bloom]

Funny story. We have someone on our server who just got hit 22m opc in token space by someone in the #1 power alliance on the server. There's a huge debate about it because the intention of our PvP event rule was that RoE must be followed even during PvP events unless the only scoring action(s) available requires you to break it. The issue was raised in our server RoE violations channel by that alliance's RoE officer and they were basically just insulted and told "This is not a violation. Bye now!" Now that alliance is saying they're gonna adopt their own RoE and the rest of the server can just deal with it. 🤣

[late pawn]

In general encouraging some sort of PVP isn't wrong. But the current implementation needs work. Also the 20 ops level restriction is arbitrary and needs a lot of work to figure something out.

[crude phoenix]

suprise. whales run servers.

[lone basin]

So I just got my chests in the STFC store before updating I update and join and it is stuck on the loading screen

[ebon temple]

we have a very similar RoE. and yes some lucrative got hit at the start of event, as they are right ' event allows for points so no violation.

Better than making a solo RoE which will change or fix nothing, it so look at the current ruleset to try and make lucrative safe for PVP events (but not safe for events like docking materials)

[opaque viper]

Happened on our server last week, when news of what was coming in this arc started to come out. Top two alliance have thier own roe now and have marked all alliances hostile which technically means no roe.

[mortal elk]

haha

yep

There are a couple of servers I've come across where there has to be a "reason" for war

but for the most part.... 😄

"We declare war"

"Against who?"
"Yes"

https://tenor.com/view/yes-hell-evil-smile-evil-grin-close-up-gif-16483956

[late pawn]

It's weird how people play a game how real life would work. When War doesn't actually help anyone, most of the time. Trolls gotta troll I guess though.

[mortal elk]

ROE being only as strong as the ability to enforce consequences, or the willingness to ignore those consequences.... it comes down to it being a game 🤷‍♂️

And if someone wants to shoot my pixels, go for it... all the pixel pew pew is fiiiiine, provided people don't get uppity in chat while doing so 😄

[late pawn]

A game with a framework that isn't properly setup to be able to play the game how it's built. That's the problem and why ROE actually came about. It's not about control.

[mortal elk]

They're pixels, not puppies 🙂

blowing them up is not a hardship

[vale nexus]

Congrats Scopely. Bulk of my server is shields up with all ships home and inactive players. A tiny percentage of players searching for ships to kill. Great quality of life improvements on game play. I wonder how your Daily Active Player and Active Play Time per Day metrics are doing and will trend over the next month

[late pawn]

Some servers think they can control and their ROE is insane. But a sane ROE makes perfect sense.

[lucid token]

What's with this unspeakable PVP, the game is no longer playable....I stick to online etiquette and don't start swearing, but that was Scopley's biggest mistake. What is this crap?

[twilit lintel]

the new star trek

4 days out of a week

[late pawn]

Again, trolls gotta troll. There's always going to be one.

[broken wadi]

appartently this arc runner is one of them...

[twilit lintel]

or until they start losing money because they only listen to whales and not the real players who is trying to play

[late pawn]

They won't lose money if they keep the whales.

[twilit lintel]

keep the whales but the whales gona leave if all other players are gone

[wind dew]

Can you help me... how to put officers on the lower deck

[late pawn]

Some whales have literally spent 7 figures.

[mortal elk]

level up the ship to unlock those slots - there'll be a level requirement shown

[late pawn]

Sunk cost fallacy. They're put so much in they won't leave even if they're the only player left.

[warped hatch]

Does anybody know If they have a promo code I thought I remember Bek saying they were gonna have one

[late pawn]

JGAL

[crude phoenix]

at that point scopely will just transfer them across servers one by one.

[pine phoenix]

Code is QUALITY

[twilit lintel]

they have none

[late pawn]

The code either means: Butcher of J'gal. Or "Just Get A Life"

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/true-story-long-nose-liar-pinocchio-gif-16376994

oooh blimey that was one click away from a telling off

[cerulean bloom]

The funny thing is this alliance I'm talking about...the #1 power alliance on the server... can't even hold territory because they ticked off too many alliances early on in our merger at the beginning of 2023. They hit a bunch of alliances in token space after getting kicked out of tc and we've pretty much been at war ever since. Kinda just seems like they're going rogue since they don't have enough support to maintain control over things the diplomatic way. 😅

[wind dew]

thank you..😀

[crude phoenix]

yeah except when they spend so much scopely doesnt see the need to merge they can be in control for a long time

[cerulean bloom]

This made me cackle 🤣

Yeah, I mean, war is literally the suspension of RoE, so such rules need not apply. The only thing preventing a bunch of random wars for no reason is the general sense that declaring war without a proper casus belli is dishonorable and/or other alliances might try to make you pay for it. When your alliance is made up of a bunch of whales, it's quite difficult to hold you accountable. We pretty much do it by just not letting them have territory. 😅

[mortal elk]

This is absolutely the corollary to "I can declare war whenever I want to".

You can declare it on one side, but you need both sides to say it's done with 🤣

They can declare war when they want, but they end the war only when you want.... so they either have to make you want it to end, or put up with the consequences of their actions 🙂

[proven bolt]

I stopped reading when you said they don’t have a unicorn

[mortal elk]

sounds like the new normal with war room 🙂

[opaque viper]

Zabatiz, that works great except when the whale alliance is also the pvp all the time alliance and everyone in it is lvl 49 or higher as they now have a lvl restriction for membership. Lol

[cerulean bloom]

I want ours to be simpler. People just keep exploiting loopholes and arguing syntax and tiny word choice issues to avoid accountability when their players act like jerks. It makes it realllll hard to keep things simple when people go out of their way to make it complicated for their own sake.

[gusty urchin]

how to send a ticket coz war room is not showing up

[mortal elk]

have you updated your client?

[gusty urchin]

yeah did it

[mortal elk]

because that looks like it's not the updated client... or you're not high enough ops for it, not sure what level it's available from

[near bloom]

Welcome to why I despise MMOs and this one particularly.

It attracts the kind of mouth breather that won’t look after their toys they paid a lot of money for but complain that their toys got broken.

[late pawn]

What Ops level are you?

[gusty urchin]

oh so i need to update it manually okay

[mortal elk]

You enjoyed it plenty when the meridian was shredding vidars 😂

Ah, second line makes all the sense now 🤣

[near bloom]

I did, but it was always the whining that came back.

You shoot someone OPC with useful stuff, so they then start smashing everything because they were floating with useful stuff away from their phone for hours 🙄

And because they paid lots of money they get toys you can’t break back, and they take it out on an entire alliance - and even better on 168, a group of alliances 🤣 it just makes for a miserable experience.

[faint vessel]

ops20... according to stfc.space

[mortal elk]

ta

[vapid solstice]

I got someone 250k opc. He hit me whenever he saw me. “ that’s for hitting my miner” 😂

[mortal elk]

"You took my opc, so I'm going to hit you OPC every time I see you"

So uh... you're playing the game? Go you.

😂

[late pawn]

Gotta find the bigger fish to go after them just as much until they stop.

[cerulean bloom]

Herein lies the problem. So many have blown so much money that it's no longer a game to them. They derive their sense of status and self-worth from their in-game accomplishments and capabilities. That means when that gets threatened in any way, they go absolutely berserk! I've seen some truly insane, cruel, and/or unhinged behavior from whales on this game who are like that just for the sake of holding onto their illusions of being truly powerful and in control.

[near bloom]

No, they would spend their time hitting people active with no loot and certainly nothing of value

[cerulean bloom]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message this

[vapid solstice]

Yeah it was while I was grinding or on my way to armadas. Never any miners

[near bloom]

Completely agree.

[near bloom]

Yup. You stole a load of stuff that I agreed wasn’t protected so I’m going to stop you playing the game.

[cerulean bloom]

These guys are praying hard for a merge. For them, that would be their version of being "saved by the bell." I honestly wouldn't mind a shift from the status quo tho tbh. It's gotten kinda boring.

[near bloom]

Merges never bring what you want

[cerulean bloom]

Some alliances have learned this the hard way on my server 🤣

[dull mason]

@near bloom
One such person, said these words 👉🏼
Anyone who uses the Voyager Scanning ability will be declared an Enemy and will be classified as Rogue and Will be hit over and over again until I see fit
what a dumb message from a Stupid player

[summer raven]

this event is just dumb maked ....

[cerulean bloom]

Not quite that big yet! Our top alliances are in the 8m ballpark. But yeah, similar. I don't see much issue if stuff is kept within RoE. That's just a gentle but firm deterrent short of all-out war.

[cerulean bloom]

YUP. AGGROE is now encouraged by game mechanics. 😅😅😅

[summer raven]

War of Shame 😄

[near bloom]

Don’t even have to use Voyager for that

[civic geyser]

Welcome back HD

Missed you bud

[near bloom]

I’m not back

[civic geyser]

Back on discord 👀😂

[near bloom]

I’m here to say for real farewells, cos I vanished last time and that wasn’t fair on many people who had supported me for years.

[hidden python]

@heady moon When are Scopley actually resetting events back to start at the correct time? America and Europe have changed clocks for a little while now

[near bloom]

But I needed it.

[civic geyser]

Ahh that’s fair enough mate. Hope the families alright and you’re keeping well

[near bloom]

All very good thanks. Much better head space 🙂

[faint vessel]

poor hamsters gonna need another holiday when he gets back and looks at his discord

[summer raven]

now i have event reset on my time 18:00 and 19:00 wth is that

[distant mica]

Those new gorn zones sure are fun when you just get instantly killed by 60s on zone in

[tepid lotus]

I'm waiting for them to start doing event times for the half hour time zones.

[faint vessel]

oh if only they stuck with utc and no regional timezone localisations 🤔

[tepid lotus]

Becasue it's not really fair for them to miss out on the fun.

Oh oh, imagine, different reset times for each and every daily event. After all, there's 24 hours in the day...

[boreal oasis]

still can't believe a game that's established globally has the same reset time for all regions

[dull mason]

At least SoS uses midnight or at this point 01:00 in time..

[coarse phoenix]

#💬-general-feedback message

They're not gonna sync event timers

[thorn pivot]

Have any of the other servers become ghost towns? Here on server 44, all of the warships are parked in the garage. If one is sent out, it's survival time is about 5 minutes.

[crimson garnet]

Does this resemble your server? 2-3 mega alliances. 1 that is "pvp" and griefs much smaller players. The other two basically farm and game SLBs but have a few very high levels to threaten everyone else. Last two pretend to be "nice" guys. All three hump the mission locations on events like this to grief smaller players. Then, threaten the smaller players and alliances when their OPC is hit within the server ROE. This ARC is perfect for them. lol

[faint vessel]

ooh heck, they're now trying to set up an unofficial system for all server pvp here now 🙈💩

[thorn pivot]

That sounds about right.

[faint vessel]

"it's been appointed"..... *** shakes head* , not sure by whom - maybe the flying spaghetti monster

[summer raven]

is there a list or website to see which player/alliance are the biggest in stfc?

[faint vessel]

only by server instance https://stfc.wtf

[thorn pivot]

Scopely seems desperate to get players to play this MMO open world RTS game like a FPS game. This game is about societies and how people establish them. But, Scopely is like no, play it like Call of Duty.

[summer raven]

thanks 😄

[proud verge]

Is the warchest weekly or not? Because this suggests it's weekly?

I've seen Eco say it's not but the wording doesn't add up

[thorn pivot]

I can't even score points because everyone has turtled up.

[sharp owl]

Pick a system, tell everyone to bring a Realta in global chat, everyone wins.

[proud verge]

Our alliance has a territory system open to the whole server for realta pvp

[warped finch]

Cardassian hunt where everyone is in one system......

[sharp owl]

Tola Alpha, Beta and Gamma are territory systems too 😉

[proud verge]

It's easier for us, we just said come to our base system

All we have to do is park outside base

[faint vessel]

dont forget vemet - and his officer ability 😛

[dim heath]

So many tears. I’m selling boats to survive the flood. Be safe everyone. 🛶

[spark creek]

This is the dumbest event of all time. I am exhausted

[clever stump]

https://tenor.com/view/ramazan-bayramınız-mübarek-olsun-ramazan-ayı-hayırlı-ramazanlar-ramadan-ramazan-gif-5432479093436930481

[dull agate]

Dont worry, they said if you dont like pvp you dont have to participate* lol

[sharp egret]

this pvp is event is for ppl with multiple account. they just spam small ships and score insane amount of points

[clever stump]

and set all Allys to KOS for even more Points 😉

[sharp egret]

i even think to make new account move it to 157 and kill realta for few hours

[sturdy panther]

I don't think i have ever seen such an incompetent event structure ever

yeah... lets make pvp everywhere and other events in specific sysems and now they are impossible to do

[faint vessel]

why not do what we used to do che? just pair up and spam each other with rubbish ships?
A lot are doing that here, to save nodes for lat rush 😹

[sharp egret]

that is option too.... I did this with Mrvica from XIII

[faint vessel]

if you hear rude words coming from eu-401, someone has splatted me whilst trying to do the fed event

[faint vessel]

theres always a way round things eh ? lol oh the good old days

[sharp egret]

We had event like this before and it was total fail. now this is few days event!!!!

[clever stump]

If you are quick enough at OPS 15... that might be an Option 😉

[sturdy panther]

@heady moon why would they plan such a poor event... this is rediciulus

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-pitchfork-riot-pitchforks-gif-13416816

[faint vessel]

im guessing whoever designed the last event has left and didnt leave any feedback from that disaster

[late ermine]

Well today i killed anything and everything i saw and i can kill same goes for my server 🙂

[dull agate]

https://tenor.com/view/stfc-star-trek-fleet-command-ultimate-djz-ultimat-djz-ultimatedjz-gif-17625813090936759357

[late ermine]

Roe and stuff is good an all but we were missing too much on pvp really like the new update although war room rewards are pretty bad for now hope they improve with time 🙂

[exotic kraken]

👋 hi

I have a question what is ROE?

[muted cape]

Rules of Engagement

Players made up rules

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-milk-milk-fish-milk-fish-gif-25178115

yes those are fish eggs before anyone thinks otherwise lol

[exotic kraken]

Ok Ty

[pale echo]

RoE RoE RoE your boat

[muted cape]

Their is also GMC and NLNS

[exotic kraken]

Like ST5

[muted cape]

Global Mining Contract, and No loot no shoot

Each server has its own rules and calls it something different

[exotic kraken]

They call it GA on my server

[muted cape]

Gentleman’s Agreement

[exotic kraken]

Yup

[late ermine]

What is your server 🤔

[exotic kraken]

21

[late ermine]

Ok ..

[dire forge]

Game has become very sad ! Dicks taking advantage of all levels below them . Wonder how many have quit at this point ?

[faint vessel]

oooh the one thats not written down and involves secret hand shakes and also depends on the direction of the wind/phase of the moon ? 🤔

[late ermine]

Its always been like that what do you think a 41 can do when a ops 70 cracks his station or belows his ship just repair and pay them back thier alliance 😉

[shell wave]

This event is idiotic. You can’t do anything because lvl61+ are preventing you to access all the systems where you need to score, grind or mine anything valuable. It’s is the first time I’m thinking of quitting.

[exotic kraken]

Yup

[late ermine]

Theres always smaller fish among bigger ones

[faint vessel]

the one which always benefits the whales? 😹

[dire forge]

Whales only club

[exotic kraken]

I’m just a level 25 minnow

[faint vessel]

snap [ ish] - well 26 here

[exotic kraken]

I just put out a cig and the ashtray caught fire lol

[arctic river]

i like the new pvp events!

[ornate fossil]

unspawn ships bug still here 😦

[upbeat spoke]

What are you doing Scopely, do you really want all the non dolphins and whales to quit.. Cardassian event during a server wide PvP is about as stupid as it gets and clearly you just don’t care that low spenders and F2P are quitting the game.

[late ermine]

Same man 🙂

[shell wave]

The ashtray was designed by scopely?

[ornate fossil]

PvP for paypal ❤️

[exotic kraken]

No, it was designed by a friend

It’s made out of rock

[late ermine]

Its a permanent content it will like that from now on i think ... Not sure

[near bloom]

Started last week?

[exotic kraken]

No, I’ve started and stopped for a lot because of real life

[arctic river]

Just talk to your server and set some base rules or limits for pvp.

[late ermine]

I don't think you can reach 25 in one week

[arctic river]

No need to nuke your whole game just cause a small element was added 🙂

[exotic kraken]

Started playing back in November 2018 been on and off the game quite often they miss me really badly

[faint vessel]

added petrol

blimey oldtimer.... wb

[late ermine]

And its good atleast pve and pve are balanced now we were missing out too much on pvp that element always felt lacking

[exotic kraken]

There was too many cigs in the ashtray

[near bloom]

I’m not taking that challenge

@mortal elk would though

[faint vessel]

fed event done without being attacked, now the other half of hostile hunt hmmm - this is too easy

[late ermine]

Well you can if you $$ spend 😂 but normally i don't think its possible

[arctic river]

agree! it's not the end of times- its just a new element.

[dull mason]

Cardassian Hunt Again 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[sturdy panther]

scoply this has got to be the worst event structure ever....

[late ermine]

And things will be more normal as times goes by

[dull mason]

Sadly No Auto Farming 👎🏼

[late ermine]

Atleast its not mining 😂 one

[exotic kraken]

It was nice meeting everyone I’m going to do some PvE

🖖🏻

[arctic river]

We have certain sectors we made for pvping each other- and you can send realtas if you are bigger to have smaller levels score points

[dull mason]

I like that one 😂

[faint vessel]

heck, just having flashbacks to that week of hell

[bronze leaf]

Hey, did anyone catch that code for the shards?

[arctic river]

cause it's really all about alliance points to get goodies- and the top alliances in our server were having fun sending out different crews and stupid-high power ships

[faint vessel]

the metrics showed us that "You like mining"

and didnt they then share an infographic showing how much we mined that week? just to add more fuel to the bonfire

[arctic river]

you can just look that up on .wtf

[faint vessel]

yup, this was for all the servers - like it was something to be proud of, there literally wasnt anything else to do

[arctic river]

and it dosnt really mean anything- cause if you have been playing for a year your mining is going to be super high- its all about how many player kills you have

[late ermine]

Ha ah i am ops 45 tell me if i mine a lot or little

[arctic river]

i am just shy of 3000 and i thought that was high 😄 its NOT

[late ermine]

Idk what avg players do

[arctic river]

what are your player kills?

[late ermine]

Me ?

[arctic river]

ye

[proud verge]

Ops41, mined more than you

[arctic river]

i wanna see peoples player kills

its bragging time

letme seeeee

[faint vessel]

hmmm got me wondering now, might see if ive got a screenshot of my card from ops48

[short fossil]

You mean how much time have you wasted blowing up unattended miners?

[scenic field]

I sorta get the idea this month is a precursor to the instanced multi-server PvP challenge zones contemplated in the 2024 roadmap. Like the borg arc a year ago where there for sure was not going to be a Vidar-A the following month.

[faint vessel]

oh my god vesta? lol not seen that avatar for a while

[arctic river]

incursions? war ships? floaters? auto grinders?

[late ermine]

Not much 320m pd and 4800 kill i wasn't in a alliance with tc so never have much of a chance other ops 45 in alliance have 10k or 15k kills atleast 🥲

[short fossil]

Because those are so much better.. blowing up player ships is the least productive thing you can do but go ahead and pretend it matters if you like.

[sinful nest]

Lol, do I mine a lot? 😅

1b mined 🤣

[arctic river]

yes king

[late ermine]

We do have some tolls in 188 you will know if you see the rank 1 player with highest pd

[proud verge]

1/3th off the way

[arctic river]

omg im afraid to look at mine

[sinful nest]

Nice, lol. I just set out lucrative miners daily, so yeah I end up mining a lot

Mainly g4/g5

[ivory dove]

do you even lat-rush?

[arctic river]

they shouldnt count iso- cause it mines TOO fast

omg im so weak in the mining area hahahah

i refuse to post it 😂

[faint vessel]

Ooh found one. From last Aug when I was ops47

[cold cradle]

Guilty 😇

[late ermine]

Ha ha nice mate

Whats your pd 🤔 i am curious

[cold cradle]

Pd? Players destroyed? The above

[late ermine]

Noo

Thats pd

[strong nacelle]

@heady moon What about that fox for the ghost ships?

[late ermine]

Power destroyed

[ivory dove]

update the game

[late ermine]

Thats the rank 1 toll 🤣

From our and from whole game

[strong nacelle]

Good troll

[faint vessel]

ooh there is a patch, i thought you were joking lol

[late ermine]

Nice

Hope you ain't another troll on your server ha ha

[cold cradle]

Am 3rd in pd but we don’t think it’s been working since the last merger

[ivory dove]

an update was released at least for Android and PC today, haven't seen a ghost ship since i installed it.

[arctic river]

that was fun- back to work!

[scenic field]

Yahweh guides his photon torpedoes!

[cold cradle]

😂

[scenic field]

May your memory be a blessing.... scumbag klingon.

[arctic river]

if you are seeing ghost ships or that weird glitch of seeing the same player ships in every system- just go into settings and clear your localization. it's like clearing a browser catch. it will clear them.

[cold cradle]

Think my players destroyed is the sum of the top 5 combined, many 👹👹 out there 😎

[scenic field]

Lead them to paradise

[cold cradle]

Amen 😂

Have fun, off 👹 hunting again

[faint vessel]

yay both fed/hostile hunt done in 50mins - not attacked once [apart from the klingon chaser which spawned just in front of me when warping in grr 💩 lol ]

[exotic kraken]

Well, I logged in to server 21 on my account because I am an admiral of IA

[merry whale]

This event is ridiculous…only making people get sick of the game since one can’t advance normally

[exotic kraken]

And the Republic drained my base from server 20

I guess I can’t play anymore because I have no tokens and no money left

Goodbye I might come back when it’s less dangerous

[near bloom]

That sounds like a you problem though 😅 shields are free

[exotic kraken]

I’m a conservative I save everything

No one ever attacks me because I don’t attack them

I was zeroed out all the way across don’t have any tokens of rss left don’t want to spend because they’ve captured a lot of my money

😭

[opal plover]

Let's chat @everyone about unannounced Quality of Life improvements, PVP events, and the joys (and torments) of STFC!

https://youtube.com/live/5JqC745FuBA?feature=share

[faint vessel]

strewth it looks like they've fixed the wee ghosties [holds breath]

[civic geyser]

Guess no update on iOS for 👻 ships

[scenic field]

Scopely made 142 million dollars last month and they still pushed an arc update out with "Ghost Ships"

[dapper scaffold]

Trying to turn STFC into Call of Duty is a great idea...

[heady moon]

My car is pretty clean!

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-intergalactic-quality-gifs-funny-sweating-reaction-gif-26616287

[civic geyser]

@heady moon any update on a patch for iOS for ghost ships , it’s a pain when you have a pvp event and at war with another alliance 🤣 I have no idea to run or attack 😬

[faint vessel]

you might need these before you sit down hamster 👉 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻 [and prey there arent any gorilla's near by 🙈 😂 ]

[boreal oasis]

this update has greatly increased many loops and screen time

[heady moon]

Announcement about the Ghost Ships coming soon!

[thorn pivot]

I wonder if Scopely has ever looked at server activity when they run pvp events. I know this is only my server, but activity always seems to plummet during those events. That can't be ideal for long term growth of the game.

[tepid lotus]

I'm sure they pay more attention to the $$$ in the store during the pvp events.

[alpine atlas]

Obviously not

[thorn pivot]

If player participation drops over the long term, so will revenue.

[tepid lotus]

I think most of those players are F2P, and the fewer spenders are spending on packs to make their ships more powerful.

Whether it's enough to compensate for the losses, no idea. But Scopely keeps doing it...

[iron wraith]

2 things: 1)get rid of the ghost ships. Whatever you tried didn't work no matter how many times the game restarts.
2) Fix your store server to accomodate the traffic! Yet again it crashed on release of your promo code.

[thorn pivot]

I'm at level 52. I'm not going to spend anything to quickly hit level 53 so that I can build those ships that will get destroyed by the level 60+ players. That's a poor ROI for anyone.

[still lily]

There is already so much to do. This new building has made the daily time requirement increase dramatically. I'd expect many server merges as the future of stfc if this is the normalized gameplay

[dusky cove]

Hmm the gorn ships aren't as big a nightmare as I thought but the refinery is likely more underwhelming than I'd expected

[dusky cove]

Sensible servers will arrange realta trading, others will have even more players quitting I suspect

[sterile mountain]

Just your daily reminder that this is not normal. Carry on.

[silent torrent]

its the ultimate QoL update, in 24 hours i've dropped from spending every spare moment on the game to doing bare minimum, by the end of the arc they'll have weened me off and i'll have my life back 😉

[faint vessel]

with vemet 😛

[heady moon]

Don't think that was the QoL we were going for...

[faint vessel]

i wonder if phlox was involved?? spend addiction treatment by using bugs 🤔

[silent torrent]

when have they ever managed what they intended 😄

[iron wraith]

The sad thing is that this game could be absolutely awesome in so many ways if scopely actually had people that knew what they were doing training the monkeys doing the content.

[dusky cove]

Errr this is the QoL upgrade most of us predicted with a pvp centered arc 😅

[zenith coyote]

But this is a country club mmo

[faint vessel]

wasnt there similar results/sentiment from the Khan separatist raid/pvp event? - just remembered we didn't have arcs back then

[heady moon]

I get that. But I still think the XB improvements help.

[sterile fox]

I mean, that's not what this arc suggests 😅 Clearly servers were too peaceful, so Scopes decided to make everyone fight each other to drive the spending up

But it isn't quite working that way... 🙈

[dusky cove]

I'm still testing things out before scoring this arc (I started keeping track of gorn refinery output etc.) so I haven't added upsides and downsides up yet to score the arc but so far my gut feeling is that it adds more downsides than upsides

[sterile fox]

I mean sure, but that could have been added without the rest of the arc changes

[dusky cove]

I'm just glad most of our server has come to its senses and we've decided to just cheese the events besides the usual muppets

[heady moon]

I'm just logging in. Hearing some reports that players are exploring the WR more and seeing some value, but I'm also still seeing a lot of frustration. Sounds like your server is still pretty down on it?

[heady moon]

Appreciate you continuing to test. I'll be interested to hear what you think in a few more days.

[heady moon]

Yeah, but I think its still a positive change.

[near bear]

Half my alliance is talking of quitting. When a 67 can sit on mission objectives and event objectives and take out ships 24 levels lower, there isnt anythign we can do

[silent torrent]

i'll be giving it to the end of the bp, if its still like trying to dailies during incursions by then i'm out, no part of that is fun

[dusky cove]

At the moment I'm seeing if I can wrap my head around the upgrade path for the war room. Excluding external sources like event stores/events it looks like I'll need 9 war room chests or 4,5 weeks to get the war room from T6 to T7. If I read it right after this arc there'll be 1 war room run per month or so, that would be 1 building upgrade per 5 months post arc assuming the ratio stays the same. Seeing the scaling on other buildings like the holodecks however it seems like it'll only get longer so I do hope I'm overlooking something there.

[heady moon]

Yup! This is exactly the feedback I took to the team yesterday!

[heady moon]

Same here.

[boreal oasis]

you want pvp to work, here's an idea

• make pvp systems that give 100% exo loot but also are open pvp systems

[sterile fox]

There were problematic players that have taken the new "PvP everywhere" and run with it to continue their campaigns of chaos.

Rather surprisingly, everyone sensible just decided to do G2 PvP in one system, but it's just another grind - and by no means a small one if you're in a smaller alliance.

It also makes no attempt to hide that this is definitely a P2W arc - because big spenders can't be hit, so you're contstantly losing and scoring lesser amounts against folks that have spent sometimes completely incomprehensible amounts of money.

[heady moon]

I THINK I saw this raised internally. Lemme see what I can find out.

[sterile mountain]

The PvP levels need to be looked at ASAP if they want to bring PvP into the game this hard. The original +-5 levels was pretty good.

[slate python]

This whole arc is based on pvp or buying primes, no thought gone in to the enjoyment of the game, if I wanted pvp on every event I would play COD

[sterile mountain]

It’s absolutely P2W. The addition of absolutely unfair advantages locked behind $100 un-grindable primes was the tell.

[thorn plinth]

@sterile fox and how long will the g2 thing last lol that's a big ask of an entire server.

[sterile fox]

And I agree, as are the Gorn - another efficiency type hostile.

The constant and definitely forced PVP (because it only takes one person to decide to shoot you) however...

[sterile fox]

Not long.

[dusky cove]

yeah from what I'm reading you need a sensible server like ours where most of us are hashing out rules so we can get events over with but some servers seem to have players seeing it as an excuse to ramp their griefing up to the extreme

[silent torrent]

the efficiency is required if being able to actually do anything is removed from the game 😄

[heady moon]

This is great feedback! Thanks! Also, interesting that some players decided to dedicate PvP in one system...

[heady moon]

Agreed.

[woven epoch]

I do like that surveys were left out of pvp, folks that don’t want to pvp on my server are flying around in novas. It’s like the north stars of old

[heady moon]

You mean the brackets?

[sterile fox]

Well yeah, there's that too 😅

[dusky cove]

efficiency hostiles are good though I'm seeing if I can calculate how their run time/rewards compare to other content types since the rewards are a hybrid of talios, voyager and the dominion chest pulls.

[sterile mountain]

We had all alliances set each other to crosshairs and segmented Tola by ship grade for six hours. Everyone got their sms done. Then we reset diplo at midnight and moved on. You know, we recreated all the previous PvP events.

[thorn plinth]

@heady moon it's an attempt to not start server wide chaos. Wich is prolly still coming lol

[sterile mountain]

Yes.

[faint vessel]

players here are bored already, goodwill and the will to bother engaging with the content is dwindling - and its less than two days into the 7 days

[twin spoke]

We had to since scopely can't think that far ahead

[near bear]

The funny thing is, our server "boggiemen" have been following ROE to the letter, but its the big whales that can control what they want who are causing an issue. I keep telling my group that ROE is a server invention and nothing to do with Scopely, but I cant blame them for wanting to give up. I personally have gone from a few hours a day to minimum.

[sterile fox]

Think it's because they know so many are currently on the brink of quitting, including big spenders. After last arc, morale was at an all time low - this has just added fuel to the disappointment fire.

[heady moon]

Was talking with the team about trying to figure this out yesterday. I know that brackets have been a major pain point for a while.

[grave swan]

So did anyone tell them that their new update broke cloak...you show up as a little green triangle....

[heady moon]

So there is a way to diplomatically do PvP?

[sterile mountain]

Yes. Ever since they first broke them by widening them up. And now with more levels in the game, it’s just going to get worse. A level 70 can hit a 40-something. There’s no fairness in that.

[dusky cove]

eh that's nothing new, on our server it's also mainly a few whales muppets though their alliances are trying to sort them out

[faint vessel]

in previous pvp we were herded into pvp systems by player segment. the sms event got completed within the 1st hour - then everyone stopped and shielded, leaving the rest to ask around to team trade kills to help them complete the meta [remaining 23hrs]. also the lag at times was baaaaaad being herded into one system.

[silent torrent]

well, game the events, its not what was intended

[heady moon]

This feedback is not very helpful.

[sterile mountain]

If you can get 3k people on board. Were lucky.

[dusky cove]

We just did the pvp event by sending realtas, envoys,..... to each others territory 😅

[heady moon]

Wait. Your rogues are behaving now?

[thorn plinth]

@dusky cove good idea

[tacit herald]

What you truly need to do before those that are hanging by a thread quit. And these players do spend. Is STOP throwing everything at the wall and see what sticks. “Hope someone spends”

[dusky cove]

Easiest way to do it really, it's fast, cheap, easy and drama free

[placid maple]

All you need is one player to send their Realta for you to smash indefinitely. Causing players to cheese/cheat on the PvP events. Theirs no skill or strategy in these events

[acoustic grail]

How is spending a resource you need for research on resources you could farm for if not for the insanely large amount of farms a good thing?

[sterile mountain]

Finish the research first.

[near bear]

There is an alliance people call rogue, but they have a system and its fine. They are keeping to server roe. Not hitting miners, not hitting in token, the usualy stuff. The whales on the other hand are just going nuts

[faint vessel]

dont forget vemet.... ship dies twice 🙈

[sterile mountain]

Giving whales an SLB with points for murder ... WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

[twin spoke]

What's not very helpful is springing a new game mechanic on US that turns entire server ROE agreements upside down without prior notice.

That's not helpful.

[sterile mountain]

The answer is this. This is what could go wrong.

[heady moon]

This is better feedback. Appreciated.

[faint vessel]

it's almost like trying to reprogram our brains, years of not having pvp - to "this" hmmm

[muted cape]

Spin it around 43 cannot hit 70 😂

[near bear]

You tell me how this is even fair

[faint vessel]

owchy, thats gonna hurt. now what would they do in the lore? they'd be able to team up and beat the dreadful foe

[pure yew]

you gotta remove that since name is showing

[coarse phoenix]

@heady moon at this point you've got all the feedback, people want a response

[pure yew]

but that name is accurate to a vibe

[sterile mountain]

Kinda expected SnowflakeKiller or something

[nimble stump]

Would love to know what is the intended upgrade timeline outside of making people buy packs. If opening 2 chests every time it runs, nets around 100 Emblems of Honour, even if it runs every week, im looking at 2 years to get to level 20, from level 7. That’s insane timeline.

[heady moon]

And I'm trying to get that response. Myself and the rest of the community team were very thorough about the feedback we heard yesterday, but I don't have an update at this point.

[coarse phoenix]

I understand it's day 1(now 2) and scopely is taking the letting the dust settle approach. But the blowback is bad

[dusky cove]

Any chance you can confirm/deny if next months arc will also be PVP centric or if that is limited to this month?

[sterile mountain]

Well, that building is here to stay...

[woven epoch]

I personally love pvp arcs cause it really brings the complainers out of the woodwork and it’s fun to watch 🍿

[solid sparrow]

But seriously, we'd really just like to talk to the actual dev team at this point 😄

[sterile mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/not-like-this-the-matrix-panic-neo-angry-gif-5216157

[faint vessel]

surely that would be counterproductive and stop them from doing their jobs? 🤔

[main marten]

1, there usually isn't an SLB associated with these
2, doesn't this generally show that most people don't want PVP? I mean if they did wouldn't they be there? What people want is to beat up on weaker player, or players doing something else/not crewed right for PVP. Almost always when one we are at war with on my server sees a ship with a pvp crew (even if their power states they are stronger with their pvp crew, they run).
3, wouldn't it be better to entice people into doing pvp (via rewards), than have people just shield and log off after getting their SMS done? PVP SLB, in system, with GOOD rewards might actually do that.

[dusky cove]

indeed but that alone can be cheesed with realtas, I'd like to know if this is a pvp month or a pvp quarter since in the later case I expect a sharp decrease in players on servers who can't find common ground on a ruleset

[sterile fox]

Revise PvP brackets, and have dedicated systems rather than galaxy wide chaos. Secluded systems that people entering are acknowledging they'll be shot - rather than just wanting to go about their dailies or do the missions, and being shot by those taking advantage of the very frankly, poor planning.

The outcry from players lately for QoL updates is more about trying to reach a balance. Making a game entertaining, without adding too many repetitive / similar / game-breaking loops, which can still entice people to spend for new features - like Disco's summoning, or battlepasses with new ship unlocks like the Borg Cube.

But forcing the entire server into PvP, with brackets that are broken, making it even more difficult to do those existing loops - of which there are plenty and keeping on top of dailiess, is really not the balance you should be aiming for.

As a reminder, although I'm sure you're aware, there's just so many grinds....

• Stella
• Vidar / Talios loop
• Dominion Hostiles / Solos
• Borg Solos
• Monaveen
• Mantis
• Borg Cube
• Xindis
• Silents
• Formations for Artifacts
• Voyager Elites, Species and Mining
• and now Gorn...

And now trying to do that whilst not being shot.

[heady moon]

The blowback has been bad, but today I think some players are easing into the arc. Still a lot of frustration and I'll let you know as soon as we hear something.

[sterile mountain]

That's what merges are for. Get rid of the F2P players and merge all the spenders and their tagalongs together.

[heady moon]

One of my plans is to have a Q&A with the team here at some point in the future...

[novel jolt]

quite simply if this crap continues im quitting

[faint vessel]

i quite like the passive buffs from the war room, got to lvl 5 and it's increased the amount of swarm kills i'm able to complete substantially 🙈. thank goodness for roe in our swarm systems here 🙈

[sterile mountain]

The only question I have of the dev team is "How frustrating is it to have a good idea utterly destroyed by monetization as it goes out the door?"

[rustic ermine]

Biggest question for an QnA will be " Why?! Just.... Why?"

[solid sparrow]

Without hyperbole, many in our alliance have put the game down and will come back when things are back to normal. They're not rage quitting, they're adults who are recognizing this isn't fun or good for them and are capable of doing other hobbies while this mess sorts itself out. Not the end of the world... but they're not coming back until they can do a simple PvE loop without being hunted by a 5 billion cube 20 ops levels ahead of them. 😆

[heady moon]

Feel like a lot of those grinds were improved with the XB expasion...

[dusky cove]

Would help if it was just pvp SMS instead of SLB or if the scoring was affected by the power gap. Defeating an enemy 20 ops lower or a ship that has 0,1% of the power your ship has shouldn't give the same score as a same ops player/power ship.

[dawn yew]

@pewpew__.__. Q&A means nothing without asking the hard questions. I find these are just a 'handle Scopely with gloves' show so that the playets can shut their traps.

[sterile mountain]

I can see the devs are trying to make a fun game. I can also see the Big Hand of Cashgrabbing comes in at the last second and line-item vetoes everything and puts it in the store.

[heady moon]

Oh yeah. Totally get that there is still a lot of frustration. And I'm passing it on. But I'm also hearing from some that there are some ok stuff with the WR.

[faint vessel]

oooh heck, and no flash events relating to pvp 🙈

[slender roost]

XB helped the grind then you guys had to add a bunch of worse new ones, xindi and silents are garbage

[heady moon]

Passing this idea on.

[pure yew]

they really hate the community i didnt expect a cardassian event on day two

🤣

all of you who bought the battlepass lose out more than likely

[vocal spoke]

Nothing BUT frustration here... can't do any daily grinds or events that involve warships without getting crushed by whales who love bullying weaker players. If that is what they were going for... job well done!

[flint ruin]

All these ideas have been brought up many times over past 5 years. Monetization model won’t allow any of them.

[solid sparrow]

There's some good stuff this arc. Many won't see it until the galaxy-wide pvp is brought under control.

Just something to consider; the more mature, reasonable people won't comment nearly as much, but they make up a majority of your player pool. They're annoyed/unhappy/putting things on hold. They won't come to discord and complain fifty times that the sky is falling; they'll just go do something else. Like me. 😄 I'm off. gl OH, you're a good dude and I hope you are paid well to be the meat shield. 🍻

[near bloom]

Have you got the bulk order of brave pills in yet? 😬

[zenith coyote]

Worst pc game I ever played on my phone 😃

[sterile fox]

They do help yes, but you can't do each of those every day to the amounts needed, because of the slow intake of ExB credits from ExB dailies. The Xindi ones can help, but that's still a grind to then enable efficiencies.

Also worth noting that the voyager ExB doesn't include any samples.

[sterile mountain]

That's where I am. I've been playing for nearly four years now and have put an uncomfortable amount of money into this game (but somehow not a VIP, go figure). But the big nerfing of rewards 6-8 months ago and the heavy monetization since has me only doing dailies for the last month or so. And this arc? Full of things that could have been fun, but the Primes ruin it, the PVP range ruins it, the complete ignorance of how servers have setup ROE ruins it, and the EXCRUCIATING lack of speed for the new building and its rewards ruin it.

[faint vessel]

for the alliance challenge; they'd still chase the lowest end of their pvp range though -they might be a little bit more friendly to begin with.
i'm sure this would alter back,especially when their war room milestones get massive. 🤔

[dusky cove]

I do hope they can make some changes to the arc since I think our server'll largely have it solved by the weekend other servers seem struggling and players who can't refine due to other players are players who'll feel pushed out of the game

[zenith coyote]

Anybody wanna assault some starbases??

[heady moon]

I really appreciated everything in your post until I got to "meat shield".

Thanks for the perspective tho!

[flint ruin]

I can’t be part of the solution, so I’m being part of the problem. I’m blowing everything I can hit that scores. I hate punching down, it’s mean, but that’s the game we’ve been put in so…it is what it is.

Activity is way down today. Even the Cardassian BP event was calm this morning, and that’s usually a chaotic mess in the Card50 system.

[crude phoenix]

the war room is ok. the way ppl fill the chest is not.

[neat saddle]

The War Room is fine in my opinion. It can be easily completed by communicating with a friendly alliance and using low level ships to PvP in an agreed upon system. All of this talk of griefers running amuck isn't Scopely's fault, it's the players' responsibility to figure that stuff out themselves. PvP with tangible benefits is a net benefit for the game.

[zenith coyote]

May I suggest being the whole problem, not just part of it.

[flint ruin]

I’m trying! I don’t have 9B power ships, so I can only contribute my small part…

[heady moon]

Yeah. Loved seeing the updates to the XB but wish we could have gotten the rare anomaly samples. Still think it was a solid list of improvements tho.

[zenith coyote]

Discord is more fun than the game rn

[faint vessel]

i wonder why station assault isnt included in the scoring mechanic? 🤔

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/take-a-bow-drew-barrymore-chloe-fineman-saturday-night-live-thank-you-gif-18787715

[near bloom]

Glad someone filled my seat 🤣

Roger 🙏🏻

[solid sparrow]

Something as simple as 5x points for kills during tc takeovers, 2x points in tc's all the time, and normal pts in some new, specified pvp-only systems would allow a every-week slb to be interesting to pvp'ers while leaving the rest of the galaxy to pve loops. Not a hard fix, but they need to come to the realization that server-wide pvp outside of incursions is going to take priority over all these PvE loops scopely has made over the last year.

Ok I'm off for real. gl all 😄

[dense swallow]

Scopley now you found the best way to kill a server, lot of players leaving the server in only one day.

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/dubsado-christian-happy-to-help-gif-18478965

[dusky cove]

If the QoL were to be restricted to XB changes I do think you'd have more happy reactions if you put silent loot in it so everyone has SOME way to reliably do their daily pulls 🙂

[heady moon]

Appreciate the feedback! Glad you're digging the WR.

[muted cape]

Increasing the Stella rep on xborg this arc was not an improvement. Those who have done Stella loop already have max rep. This new update basically kills Stella loop. Get a T4 Stella and rely solely on xborg no reason to do Stella anymore

[heady moon]

I hear this! Just letting you know, that we will be following up on the Xindi armadas and silent hostiles in a meeting with the team tomorrow. Not saying that we have a timeline for a fix, but we haven't forgotten those issues.

[neat saddle]

Question @heady moon - do the Warchest Keys reset at the end of the WR timer? Is it use 'em or lose 'em or can we hoard them up for the future day when the building is tiered enough to make the rewards more useful?

[lost pier]

The problem with PvP in this game is most fights are the equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight. The only reasonable tactic is to run away, and that's how you end up with PvP events where many players feel they just need to shield up and log off

[sterile mountain]

You know, OB, while you're reading, I'll tell you what I think is the one thing that causes most of the problems in this game: the pricing structure.

The way it's designed, only the real-life richest players will have any sensible speed of growth or strength in this game. For everyone else for whom $100 is "HAHA RIGHT" money, they're left in the dust and playing the years-long game while Richie Rich is king of the hill inside a month. And with the excessively-wide PVP gap and need for an unreasonable amount of grinding, it becomes impossibly frustrating to play, especially when the whales turn rogue.

Bringing the prices into the range of the average player or creating a kind of middle track between rocketships and turtles would go SO FAR to make this game more tolerable. As would narrowing that PVP gap by at least half.

[alpine atlas]

Cardy BP event is impossible at ops 49 with whales killing everyone in the ONE hostile system. This actually feels like malice from the arc runner at this point.

[heady moon]

Will ask!

[dusky cove]

Would be appreciated, I'm trying to be more constructive today and that's an XB store change I know a lot of people would appreciate. I know it would make me feel less hesistant about moving to the next ops tier of silents at the least though just removing the ops tiering and having it just give different loot amounts would still be the best solution 🙂

[muted cape]

You have to use them as the mats to upgrade the building in the WR chest

[heady moon]

That makes sense to me. I was initially pushing to unlock the ops lock and let players hit lower, but adding them to XB might be better....

[dusky cove]

I think removing the ops lock would be better as the current system is jarring due to the big power jumps due to tiers while ops based cost allows more gradual shifts but just offering an alternative sourcing would already take some of the edge of it

[muted cape]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-elephant-scared-omg-gif-17283319

Elephants hate mice

😂

👀 that’s a whales reaction when a low ops kills them 😂

[tidal girder]

Activity has grinded to a halt my server.

[neat saddle]

That's a very good point. Still curious if the disappear though.

[plain cargo]

This new ghost ship thingy sucks bad enough that player ships are ghost ships but to also clog the screen with red ghost ships as well is really stupid

[indigo tangle]

@heady moon

The updated PC patch seems to have fixed the Ghost ship issue. It would be great if the team could give us incremental patch notes also 👍

[muted cape]

Good points but you would solely have to rely on events having those building mats otherwise no way to upgrade without spending the key

[heady moon]

Just confirmed thatthe Warchest keys will not go away.

[heady moon]

Yeah... I have an update about the ghost ships locked and loaded, but we're waiting for Apple to approve the update before I can announce.

[sterile mountain]

Good to hear. What's the expected timeframe to F2P that building to G5 levels, though?

[dusky cove]

Don't assume they could clarify future war room upgrade paths? Assuming 1 war room per month it seems like it'll take 5 months + per tier and that's assuming output keeps pace with tier costs which generally isn't the case

[azure quail]

A quote just came to me...

Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.

[dry valve]

That’s probably Hami in six months

[sterile mountain]

This is what I mean when I say "good design that gets murdered by monetization on the way out the door". They did it to Xindi armadas, too.

[heady moon]

I THINK the team is open to better sourcing for WR upgrades. Lemme add to the thread.

[muted cape]

No surprise their Apple always slower then android on approving things 😂

[lofty snow]

@Obsidian Hamster sorry for the highlight and I presume this has been already asked, but are the extra clicks (and additional loading screens) in faction stores really necessary? How is this quality over quantity? This virtually doubles clicks for claiming/buying stuff, not talking about all the extra loading screens and hiding costs

[indigo tangle]

It's hard to tell what's good design and what isn't because it goes through the monetization transporter and comes out like Kuato in Total Recall.

[heady moon]

Heard about this, but haven't been able to follow up yet. Will see what I can find out. Was it specific faction stores or all of them?

[dusky cove]

yeah even at low tiers we're looking at 9 war chest prizes aka 4,5 weeks just for 1 tier and that's assuming it is run every week. It's early days but this feels like some of the other buildings like the holodeck where there's no F2P path to get them to a decent tier in the games lifespan

[graceful crater]

https://tenor.com/view/lag-axolotl-food-funny-gif-25646543

[lofty snow]

all of them.

[sterile mountain]

Now you understand why they were so mad people figured out the gap in game design that first day. They wanted that building to take months and years, or thousands of dollars.

[muted cape]

All of them across the board, the peek buttons on chests also gone

[dusky cove]

in its current form I view it as design since it further widens the free/low spender and whale power gap which only increases the complexity of balancing events/loops for players of the same ops

[sterile mountain]

I just had the BEST idea for balancing PVP! Don't bracket people by their ops level, bracket them by their spend level! 😄

[dusky cove]

Oh I was aware from day one and even with years you won't get the holodeck to a high tier unless they drastically adjust sourcing/add an influx. I'm quite skeptical of that seeing the subspace relay etc.

[nimble stump]

2028

[opaque viper]

@terse jackal said yesterday that warchest would not run every week.. its probabaly setup to be like the vault. so caculate on that.

[sterile mountain]

Subspace relay. Got it.

[zenith coyote]

That's actually a great idea.

[heady moon]

I think we found a fix for the faction store and it will be sent out in the next update. Not sure if that's this week or next tho. Will try and get more info.

[muted cape]

Relay 😂, holo is slow but it’s defo faster than the relay. After 2 years of incursions mines only lvl 30

[dusky cove]

between losing about every incursion and using the incursion currency on FC ahards etc. mine is only T16

[muted cape]

I spent the coins on mats. Figured it was better then the FC as don’t have slots for more

[shy hamlet]

FC 7 is worth unlocking even if you don't have slots for her because of her always-on abilities

[opaque viper]

found the image

[opal meadow]

Anyone else have issues with one of the missions? Tells me to kill a ship I’ve already killed

[muted cape]

Awesome thanks, 🤩 your a great CM

[heady moon]

Thanks! And happy to help!

[indigo tangle]

@heady moon can you please confirm specifically with the team whether it will go out in a mid-month milestone patch or an incremental patch like the PC patch today? Thanks!

[serene drum]

Where can I or how to use this?

[muted cape]

Combat tree column 12

[shy hamlet]

early in the combat tree

[inland yew]

Combat research tree, tactical warmonger

[dark shadow]

Theres one node in combat for pvp research it goes to. But be prepared to take years to even unlock it, lol. It needs 100 for first open 🙂

[regal dagger]

FORCED PVP SUCKS MONKEY NUTZ !

[dusky cove]

in essence you don't as the first tier needs 100 of them

[serene drum]

Oke thanks

[regal dagger]

Scopely, this forced pvp is an EPIC FAIL. ITS ALREADY BACKFIRING

[sterile mountain]

They know. We'll see if they care.

[dusky cove]

With 2 seals per war room that's 50 weeks of war rooms and they won't run every month after this arc so precluding outside sourcing it seems to run into the same problem as the war room itself aka a viable upgrade path. I woudn't be surprised if the next arc is pvp centric too and adds more sourcing options for these things though like we saw with the xindi credits last month.

[pure yew]

me personally i want more bugs next arc

[flint ruin]

How does that work with the Warmonger research? Need 100 of the thingy…if it’s not 1 per week from the War Room, what was already a retirement project becomes Mission:Impossible.

[thorn slate]

hoping for more pvp here !

[pure yew]

atleast equal to the amount of currencies

[dusky cove]

I would not be surprised to see a specialty ship centered around arena combat or so as an extra sourcing method

[sterile mountain]

Especially given how poor the G6 ships are at PvP.

[flint ruin]

G7 will fix that.

[sterile mountain]

"What if I just don't fire every other round? That's cool, right?"

[pure yew]

g6 is just for big numbers sake

big numba me win you poof

raaggh

[dusky bane]

💩 💩 PVP biggest fail!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[dull mason]

Seriously, " Stuff This"
Shield And Sleep....

[normal cape]

the fan of my pc starts whirring loudly since the last stfc update

[dreamy pecan]

Wirrrr feed me dollars wirrrrr

[half shell]

It's tomorrow

[dusky bane]

sleep! What about daylies. Everwhere you were killes by an Idiot, 10 Ops level above you!

[flint ruin]

Dated yesterday - so today.

[half shell]

That's what I'm saying

[heady moon]

It certainly is tomrrow! #🌌-galaxy-chat message

[azure bay]

Less chat, get on a call to Apple and get that fix pushed through😁

We’re counting on you

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-kramer-cosmo-kramer-seinfeld-tbs-gif-24733557

[tiny wedge]

Apple is the majority of the reason stuff takes so long to fix on phone games....

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/running-staring-scared-stare-run-away-gif-13243107

[heady moon]

That's what I'm hearing...

[half shell]

What about android?

[flint ruin]

Yeah, that’s not true, lol.

[half shell]

Just saw an update in Google play

[tiny wedge]

Android and PC had a patch today already and seems to be working on both for me.

[half shell]

Sweet

[tiny wedge]

Apple the company has such crazy rules to post any updates to a app on the apple store , it takes far longer to get a update pushed into Iso than to Droid.

[dull mason]

War room data stuck not downloading

[flint ruin]

No, it doesn’t, unless you don’t know what you are doing.

[winged dragon]

They’ve started organising a “don’t buy the BP this time as a protest against the bad pvp events” thing on my server

[willow gazelle]

your server is not smart

[drowsy cypress]

No one ever has the opposite problem where the Android is the one delayed by nonsense rules

[faint vessel]

probably not the thing to advertise in here either 🙈

[cursive harness]

Galaxy wide PvP kills every other aspect of the game. When you can’t get anything done bc your ships are constantly being blown up, there is no game.

[cyan arrow]

I expect us to find a new prime in the store shortly that makes you neutral (ie, you cant be attack by other players). for only §99.99 (and then next arc they add one that counters that prime).

[faint vessel]

hmm i feel like i should be doing something

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/shatner-slap-alien-gif-8109693

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-william-shatner-captain-kirk-james-kirk-kirk-gif-16831045

didnt need any isolytic damage for that ☝️

[faint vessel]

tbh that would be like me fighting - handbags at dawn or gorn 😉 lol

[dusky bane]

scopely sucks. Quality over Quantity! Should i laugh or cry. Or maybe shoot some developer

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-the-original-series-star-trek-gorn-captain-kirk-william-shatner-gif-3992374

[crude phoenix]

50 weeks for the warroom ft unlock. with the current course scopely is going will the game still exist at that point

[dusky bane]

1year not more, scopely will destroy the game!

[crude phoenix]

wonder what they promise next year.. the last one was proven a lie arc 1 ;p

[high crow]

@heady moon any word for our g5 keys?.

[muted flower]

Have you done all the missions? I'm missing one, I got 3 SNW from the holodeck and one for the war room

[dusky cove]

quantity over quality?

[near bloom]

That’s a bit hostile.

[faint vessel]

poor devs, they're only doing what the management from above tell them to do. it's a bit like shouting at retail shopfloor staff when you have an issue about store management/headoffice.

[near bloom]

Indeed

[faint vessel]

i'm sure they'd do anything to fix the bugs, but their hands are tied due to management/shareholders and budgets

[near bloom]

Besides, it’s @river trout’s job to shoot the devs.

IYKYK.

[misty pelican]

I just came here to see the dumpster fire of this GC

[faint vessel]

ooof @ the NEOM city project in saudi being scaled back 😮
106miles planned, down to 1.5 miles 🙈

[glossy island]

show your ticket at the entrance

[near bloom]

£5 entrance payable to me!

[royal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-ants-gif-4699381

[faint vessel]

it did look very star trek - Yorktown starbase from the press images 🙈 https://www.neom.com/en-us [sorry if not allowed to post this link]

[cursive stream]

why can't we see the chest anymore? shouldn't you be able to see how many credits you're missing?

[glossy island]

Not intended, apparently. Expect it to be fixed. Someday before the heat death of the universe.

[odd pine]

Scopy you little stupido....

[cursive stream]

kekw

alrighty

[twilit lintel]

when wil we see the treasure thing again?

[thorn plinth]

Lol this is like the chaos arc I'm loving it.

[faint vessel]

is that why you've been so quiet ? 😛
forgot to ask --- how long did you last with your challenge?

[dull mason]

Ask mystic Meg... LoL 🤣🤣

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-lick-licking-ice-gif-9540225

[dull mason]

Dear O'Dear 😄

[thorn plinth]

The cheap shots and finger pointing augment and Texas space are getting rougher bye the day lol

[dull mason]

👉🏼☝🏼👈👇

[thorn plinth]

2 days of probation left and I'm a free man!!

For at least a day

[faint vessel]

👉 👀 [ all unattended eyes will be poked]

told you so ! 😛

[flint ruin]

4:45h until Fallout…

[lean badger]

The TV series or in this game?

[flint ruin]

This game has plenty of fallout, lol…no, was referring to the good kind (the new series)

[faint vessel]

are we that bored we're chatting about bowel movements now? 🙈

[lean badger]

Could be worse - chatting about various kinds of explosive diarrhea.

[native flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/the-purge-wave-m-ask-god-gif-7946418730840228571

[faint vessel]

oooh lordy.... 🙈

[urban grove]

So it seems like everyone wants to point fingers and place people into either COD or Farmville extremes... when most likely fall in the middle. Unfortunately going to either extreme makes the other miserable. @heady moon here is a list of things I have seen other phone games do to help find balance:

PvP and PvE exclusive servers...with easier ability to transfer and transfer at any level. Many use PvE to grow until they feel strong enough for PvP.

Arenas with rankings. Arenas can be multiple server wide to increase bragging rights

You can't make everyone happy, but both these ideas have a tendency to create balance that each individual wants. Catering to either side just alienates the other...causing decreased revenue

[flint ruin]

PvPers in this game do not want to be on PvP servers. They want easy kills. Whales do not want to swap repair bills with each other.

[marsh bear]

What happened to the wave defense battle pass Hasn’t been there in weeks

[flint ruin]

They’re working out a way to add PvP to waves.

[near bear]

Not true. I just want a fair fight. As a level 43, I should have 38-48 as options, not some 67.

[dull mason]

I hope it never returns

[flint ruin]

Can’t go by ops. Easy to have 3x power difference at same ops, because $. They’re not going to change banding, so it’s moot, but if they were, it would have to be banding based on spend, not ops.

[lean badger]

Thing about level based PvP is... It never works out.

People want a fair fight, and level based PvP will never be a fair fight.

[twilit arch]

99% of FTPers will NEVER be strong enough to PvP with the biggers. They spend faster than we grow $$

[near bloom]

Assuming any PvP event will result in anything other than you hating the game is your problem here.

[flint ruin]

The only time there was an exception to this was before server got Ascension. Lots of players compressing up to the limit at 39, and no “warp range” nonsense so people could literally be untouchable.

Not coincidentally…was the funnest time in the game…miss those days…

[near bloom]

Some PvP is fun, but orchestrated/encouraged it is pretty lousy.

[twilit arch]

I do NOT feel bad for 60+ player who cannot find a peer to Pvp with, not my fault they upgraded so fast

Put them all in a new server. This will give other alliances a chance to really advance, not just grow and still be the same in ranking... forever

The rankings never really change

[faint vessel]

who paid for the game to grow? they're literally investors with the amounts spent 🙈

[vapid solstice]

Some could’ve put a dent in world hunger

[twilit arch]

👍 totally agree, they are investors in the game

[faint vessel]

or funded a spaceship to be built in real life lol

[vapid solstice]

Exactly 😂

[void minnow]

😂

[near bloom]

Or a submarine

Or is that a sore point 😬

[pure yew]

i wouldnt say investors more like time share agent targets

since you own nothing in the game

[near bloom]

Victims seems fair 😅

[heady moon]

Appreciate the list! I would love to see an arena style mechanic someday!

[dull mason]

I've found One player has 2x Amalgams 🤦🏼‍♂️

[glossy island]

We're supposed to call them "survivors" now.

[dry garnet]

Lots of players have 2 Amalgams, including me

[near bloom]

I had two

[pure yew]

we have a guy with 5 feeshas

[near bloom]

Maxed

[dry garnet]

Same

[dull mason]

I only have one but 6 extra bps

[faint vessel]

oh heck that would be amazing. - maybe away teams based. everyone granted epics for the away team arena, everyone on an even keel, SMS/AMS to gain buffs, extras could be IAPS/cash store/battlepass?

[pure yew]

we already had arena style

🤔

[merry lion]

Does anyone have the promo code for M'Benga shards?

[faint vessel]

ship pvp seems to be the continual issue with fairness. It's been tried so many times, and this is why we're so cynical - why not try it with officers in combat arena style? :/
Maybe this is the undiscovered country?

[dry garnet]

JGAL

[pure yew]

that one system in rom area

[tidal girder]

I think 1 🌊 total run on our server in last 6 hours

[pure yew]

didnt really care for it

[faint vessel]

what do you think about an extension to away teams?
arena style officer pvp in a separate instance?

[pure yew]

like card battling?

[native flicker]

How about G5 bps in the Away Team Store? Can we make that a quality thing?

[faint vessel]

heaven only knows how they'd design it. maybe similar arena to mobile royale/ever legion/lords ? 🤔

[pure yew]

could work but it shouldnt be slb's etc should be ladder based so everyone who does it gets something at least

tired of the only 12 or so people get things a month

[dark shadow]

Diablo Immortal seems to do well financially while still satisfying PvE and PvP camps. Its really not a big secret - in every successful mixed use game in the space, PvP and PvE are separate modes in the same game. When players want PvP, they prepare for it and enter the arenas, with valuable reward structures. When they dont want PvP they are not in the arenas and doing the other game loops. Its pretty simple... for eveybody but scopely.

[faint vessel]

thinking about it I agree, 100% to no slbs. the revenue could be gained from extras/upgrades.
anyone who enters the arena gets the same limited ships or officers at max level, buffs gained from events - more can be purchased. [with a limit]
We all then start off on a "level playing" ground, fights RNG generated by what buffs/extras the player has..... totally ignoring ingame ops/research etc

[warm pivot]

i would say a fleet vs fleet combat where you can queue up for. depending on your ranking it goes from 2-6 ships or even 8 for the payers league. so you crew all your ships and have that lineup set. then start to search for an opponent and possibly bring the fleet to a designated area or have it just start an armad vs armada battle.

[opal meadow]

I have seen more people quit the game in the last 24 hours than the previous year

[faint vessel]

sounds amazing, could still be whale dominated - maybe there needs to be something to make all even to start off with? Make it more based on skill rather than 💳

[opal meadow]

Guys

I reached level 15

Now I can do raids

[warm pivot]

of course whale dominated, highest league highest rewards, but lower leagues could provide something as well

[opal meadow]

How can I raid stations with out getting caught

[faint vessel]

unlock systems nearby and find a base. pointless doing it in times when their is high server activity

[warm pivot]

you can only knock on their door and hope they arn`t home

[faint vessel]

you'll probably want to keep the initial 7 day shield for the duration, unless you're spending

[opal meadow]

But how can I not get caught

[thorn plinth]

@opal meadow you can't

[warm pivot]

i dont understand the question, what do you mean with, caught

[thorn plinth]

No matter what if you raid a base they will know you did it

[faint vessel]

theres cloaking, but thats about 18months away 🙈

[glossy island]

Look for stations in the low-level 'baby space' systems. You're less likely to be noticed out there.

[faint vessel]

they're ops15 🙈

[glossy island]

true, most of the stations out there will either be too low to hit, or big boys hiding out

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/billionaire-strut-vince-mcmahon-wwe-wrestling-gif-16410983

Straight outta discord jail 😎

[thorn plinth]

No fun anyway if you don't sign your work!!!!!!

[opal meadow]

I heard I can

But can they find me

[limpid abyss]

Fix the dam ghost ships hanging around. My thumbs hurt from forcing the game to stop and restarting. Also fix the cloaking problem. You can see people's ship when they cloak. Little green arrow.

5 years and yall still can't code.

[glossy island]

Ghost ships seem to be fixed with today's update

[thorn plinth]

@opal meadow you heard wrong you can make a single hit cloaked but raiding a base requires multiple hits to drain rss cant be done.

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-velma-hbo-scooby-doo-glenn-howerton-gif-9709862070375427

[thorn plinth]

You can't hold the required tetryons to cloak a hundred times lol

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/secretartarian-scarecrow-xirtus-gif-18588200

☝🏼

[silver parcel]

thought so to, but got some more just now

[foggy lark]

Who's face is that?

[glossy island]

@opal meadow What do you mean by not get caught? Do you mean them not knowing who did it? Or do you mean not having someone stop you while you're at it?

[opal meadow]

Not getting caught

Not knowing

[dull mason]

Don't know

[glossy island]

Yeah, as others have said, you can't really. Cloaking only gives you a CHANCE of hiding your name on each hit, and you have to hit many times to raid so they'll see who it was on at least one of them. Plus you can only do so many cloaks before you run out of cloak juice.

[opal meadow]

Or how can they find my base

Should I do it where a system is far away

[iron steeple]

Howdy 🤠🏜

[opal meadow]

And they don’t know where to look

[glossy island]

The Voyager has an ability to see where the base is if they find one of your ships.

[thorn plinth]

If you want to find someone you will find them there is no hiding at your ops level.

[opal meadow]

What happens if they don’t have a voyager

[chilly cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-disney-toy-story-hello-i-just-arrived-gif-17348320

[opal meadow]

But should I commit an attack

[iron steeple]

I feel like Scopely is trying to abolish server ROE, with their lil gimmicks that are coming out. 🤷‍♂️

[glossy island]

Then they'd have to scan each system to try to find you. A lot of work, but not impossible.

[thorn plinth]

@iron steeple roe shouldn't concern attack ships anyway.

[chilly cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-dj-its-just-business-just-business-that-is-just-business-gif-25428059

[thorn plinth]

Except maybe within token spaces

[glossy island]

Generally, the idea with raiding is to find someone that's not online and forgot to shield. If they show up and shield or start repairing their ships, move on to someone else. And when you're offline, make sure you shield or someone will do the same to you. "Shield or Share", as they say. As long as you're shielded, it doesn't matter if they know where your base is... there's nothing they can do to you.

[iron steeple]

I'm talking about ARMADA speed-ups, War Room, allowing attacks in token space, allowing people to take what you have purchased (with real money), etc.

Everything sold with rss, should come in token format only. Token space should NOT have an ATTACK button.

[split quarry]

Use a shield. 🤷‍♂️

[iron steeple]

Armadas should not be able to be disrupted

[vague gull]

There is only one token space that costs something to get in to and no one uses it anymore? Every other token space costs pathetic amounts of anything to get in to

[chilly cypress]

Why?

[split quarry]

They were made to try and make people fight. We just never did

[green ginkgo]

They have fixed the ghost ship issue. Now how are they going to fix the Pac-Man in every system issue

[faint vessel]

the red hostile chaser?

[slate hill]

Trying to start conflict

[thorn plinth]

@iron steeple roe is a player construct has your server introduced a way to enforce your roe system? Scopely hasn't introduced a roe system yet that might be interesting I suppose.

[iron steeple]

It all comes back to how much money they can generate off of people's frustrations. Don't get it twisted, I'm a force on my server, but not everyone is. Just looking out for the small guys/gals.

[quasi ember]

is there a known way to get the 8 emblems im short of my next war room upgrade?

[chilly cypress]

Problem solved.

[iron steeple]

Oh....you better believe I've had that for a while.

My point is, they coulda just made it impossible to attack people in the circle.

[quasi ember]

so 50 million points in the war room, whether you are level 20 or level 70? seems balanced.

[vague gull]

Again. The game is designed with PvP in mind. What players construct themselves to subvert game design isn’t scopely issues

[main locust]

My server is wonderfully lag free at the moment. But that’s likely to do with there being only 15 Level 45+ players in the Yarda system so the server isn’t being stressed there. The other 45+ camping mission and daily spots and nobody else is undocked.

[chilly cypress]

They could but why? This game would be so boring if they took out all PvP and made PvE only.

[twilit lintel]

oh no the mods are lurking

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-fin-bull-shark-vs-hippo-secrets-of-the-bull-shark-submerge-bite-force-gif-19026727

[twilit lintel]

to you maybe

[iron steeple]

You can buy Armada directives with cash, someone can kill you and the Armada is wasted...and so is the money. I have neverrrrrr bought directives because of that. I feel like that should be some rule/law that get inforced.

[chilly cypress]

Second armada solution.

[main locust]

It’s meant to have well designed and balanced PvP.

When $copely employ someone that knows how to do that we might have some progress.