💬-events-feedback

[wide lava]

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[vagrant topaz]

Actually coders will always make mistakes. It's the insufficient Quality Assurance testing that appears to be the problem.

[knotty bolt]

@wanton copper Still no points for the AMS event awarded for completion. Please fix.

@vagrant topaz Totally possible since it is the testers job to notice problems and the coders job to fix it and repeat cycle until all bugs are fixed.

[floral oracle]

We are the testers🙊

[high harbor]

The new announcement update doesn't fix anything. There are still ATs completed since event start that haven't been scored at all. Those which scored before the scoring change still have the old number of points, so the LD boost is gone without the base value increase. People still used speedups, refreshes etc before the scoring reset, assets which should be restored if fairness is at all a consideration

[worthy gorge]

Anyone else think the For the greater good AMS is a ridiculous number of points? We need 1.58mil to complete it and with an epic 3*, you’re getting 66 points for a hostile. That’s a little under 24k hostiles or 8k hostiles each day. That’s also assuming that everyone has that high of a level of ship.

[covert zephyr]

i used my stock of speed ups on an epic which crit, no points, no speed ups, unable to complete sms with remaining

not happy

[high harbor]

Right? Not even wrong points or LD leader not counting or whatever. No points for many completed ATs

[covert zephyr]

the first material rewards out of an event store arc compounds this when there is another material spend event....

[high harbor]

Also this but I have resigned myself to AMS events not scaling properly to server and alliance maturity/capability so they're basically just impossible

[worthy gorge]

Alright I wanted to make sure it wasn’t just me. They might say that the assignment tokens will make a difference but how can it when you’re only getting one point from them? At least in crucible you got 25 points per trophy.

[meager valley]

@wanton copper how do i ge my money back I spent on the auction?

[young breach]

I hope the compensation chest has some away teams speed ups…

[high pine]

Yes, the "For the Greater Good Event" is a rediculous number of points. Our alliance of 65 players (mostly in the mid-upper 30s) are only about 1/4th of the way to the first milestone after almost 2 days of grinding.

[nocturne oak]

for buffer time.. dailies end in <8 hours.. event ends in < 20.. will the next day''s points count?

[vagrant topaz]

Would expect so yes

[earnest harness]

yes all daily milestone points count

[devout trail]

When do we get our missing points for the Recruit LD SLB? I spent a couple thousand unc mats before they axed it and that's a lot of points....

Also, the 'further update' still doesn't solve the issue of the spent speedups or missing points, either... @wanton copper @earnest harness

[mild glacier]

None of these officers are lower decks. Please stop polluting recruit tables with unrelated stuff!

[devout trail]

Hey @storm ridge is it gonna take another angry video for them to do anything proper here?

[vagrant topaz]

Give rom

[mild glacier]

@vagrant topaz I’d just like recruits to be relevant to the event table they’re placed in. We have non borg in both recruits, non ld in ld recruits, etc

[vagrant topaz]

I feel you. At least 3 shards are guaranteed to be ld

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper 👆 This.

[junior pond]

@wanton copper The scores for these SMS events every time we do them are all over the map. A recent run of the spend materials during the last arc had the top milestone at 1/3 of this and came with thousands in event store currency with it. Other events have it come in at half of the top milestone. At that 1/3 point it might be worth the rewards here, but certainly not as is for a handful of shards and a few small pulls. I can't even fathom what those at the higher ops levels are seeing for this where they have to spend almost 10K in uncommon to do this (for the same rewards). People just don't have the materials to keep paying these bills or if they do have some, they don't have the ship to put them on because of the high cost per part (my Auger right now as one example needs a 10K part which is a LONG time coming to get that much). And of course only rare+ directives count again for these which remain a barrier to finishing that way since the sourcing there is now effectively Cosmic Cleanup which competes with the only source of ships for those resources. Let's work on setting realistic milestones here and not what we keep seeing.

[median laurel]

When you Do a Event that awards BPS for officers that are maxed shouldnt you get Transporter patterns? instead of nothing

[queen kindle]

The reward screen doesn't show it, but yes, you get TP for maxed officers

[median laurel]

K ill watch next time just to make sure ty

[latent merlin]

We have 71 members and all lvl 28-50 and we haven't even finished the 1st tier.

[junior pond]

50 members, almost all 30-40, and we are at halfway to T1 on this one. Pretty rough event scoring, even using the double scoring option.

[cold oar]

It's a terrible event. I'm ops 54 who scored over 1/2 billion on day one in SLB, and we're right around 600k right now in the ALB. 0% chance we make it without them re-reworking this poorly designed event.

[high aurora]

Still can't complete the chumming SMS due to using all my speedups on a broken event. It also cuts into the points I can contribute to the alliance event. There also seems to be an error in that scoring We had 400k on day 1, giving us a chance to hit the 1.58 mil top milestone. Now we are at 599k, so we've only earned about 200k today. If this was supposed to be a chill event to celebrate memorial day based on less activity, it certainly is not turning out to be that way.

[keen flax]

The Buffer Time sms is unfair to alot of us that have done about 70 to 80 percent of our dallies before the event started without notice. We should get credit for those tooo. Restart for dailies is like 11pm cst day before the 11am cst events start

[quartz creek]

They literally put the schedule of events on a Jumbotron in the center of your station. They even also postponed the first one by a day so that everyone could have a fresh set of dailies to do it.

[latent merlin]

Agreed. It's rubbish

[junior pond]

Pretty sure that the way the event scores you get a whole new set of points to add to it staring in about 90 mins. Plenty of time to come back and finish up.

Nothing in the scoring says they have to come from one set of dailies only.

[topaz gulch]

For me the dailies reset at 5:00 am. Today at around 10:00 am I had already done the 245 points needed for the dailies of the day and some extras, leaving very little to score for the event. The dailies for tomorrow will never be enough to complete it...
I've completed the more difficult tasks I could do to try scoring some extra points for event, depleting in the process almost all the repair tokens I had, but even so it will not be enough...
@minor rose and @ivory orchid , some compensation would be in order or a time extension for completion, allowing for another set of dailies to be done

[frail onyx]

If you weren’t posting this on the official discord it would be more understandable but the event schedule was posted here and in-game before you did all your dailies yesterday…

[kindred lark]

@wanton copper, it’s now 12h since the Recruit LD SLB missing points due to the cross server start. Do we have any ETA when we will get them since I don’t dare to spend anything else before this is corrected. Having 0 points when I should have been on the 3-4 place currently does not feel especially fun. Hard to compete with the rest of the server 😦
I have got an automatic answer on my ticket as everybody else got.

[earnest harness]

Point migration will be handled before the event ends.

[distant fiber]

So I'll be getting that 44k points back?

[kindred lark]

Do I dare to start spending more rss or shall I wait until it’s fixed?

[earnest harness]

You are safe to spend RSS on the new event, we will do our best to migrate all points earned in the first 13-minutes that was the XSLB.

[kindred lark]

I really hope I did not manage to build my R&D 42 while you restarted it so I was on any of the leaderboards…….

[primal flume]

Kind of disappointed with Buffer Time timing. I had already completed my dailies before it dropped so only have one set of dailies to run and can’t max out rewards. I’m sure it’s more complicated than I think it is, but I’d really like these things to be more in sync for all players. Had I realized I would have held off 7 hours and did my dailies after the new stuff launched.

[earnest harness]

you should be able to max out rewards in one day's worth of dailies.

[uneven relic]

You could have still done your dailies and just not claimed them, until event reset, the information was in the event calendar in your station, so was easy to know BEFORE the event happened, i did all my dailies, and just didn’t claim any of the rewards until a couple hours ago before the dailies reset again.

But you can still just do your new dailies now and claim them now, and you’ll still score

[primal flume]

@uneven relic not claiming would have been possible. I was not aware of the need/advanced knowledge resources angle here, but will try to see what’s coming next more in the future. An extra step that I’d just as soon not need to do. Thank you for the insight nevertheless!

@earnest harness I don’t think I can get 500 points in a day at my level but I’ll try and send you an update if you’re curious.

[uneven relic]

Well my main thing is you can’t say you didn’t know, when the events were clearly listed in advance in your station news centre.

[uneven relic]

And why do you need 500 points???

[primal flume]

@uneven relic bad short term memory from the last viewing. 355.

[uneven relic]

315 for the Buffer Time.

[uneven relic]

Hmm ok, site I have shows less. But still, plenty of dailies to get that many in a single round of dailies

What ops are you?? At 41 it’s only 315

[fervent laurel]

Why do you need less points at higher ops 🤨

[autumn wadi]

I'm 26 and it wants 370.

[fervent laurel]

Same for me at 33

[autumn wadi]

5th daily box only takes 240.

[fervent laurel]

But you can get more points beyond that, which was the point of the event

[uneven relic]

There’s like nearly 500 points from dailies available

[fervent laurel]

585 points possible for me at ops 33

[primal flume]

Well I’m working on all I can do. If there’s enough, great. There are the two gardens swarm ones I can’t yet touch with my level.

[fervent laurel]

But that's with triple faction lock

[vagrant topaz]

595 here

Triple faction indeed. Even with 1 faction and no franka dailies you can still complete it within a single day

[primal flume]

I'm at station level 24. My max is daily is 310 after removing 85 points from the two higher swarm goals (Swarm Guard and Swarm Watcher) that my Franklin (tipping the scales at around 63.5k power, fully loaded) cannot overcome yet. Just saying - I'm not sure where the advanced postings are for these events and I'd be able to hit the 355 with two days worth of goals. I will not have that because I was unware (evidently a fault of my own ignorance as pointed out) of the impending new event tied into those goals. I've been playing a bit over 2 months and do not recall such a miss before - but I'm sure I'm mistaken there. I said I was disappointed with the syncopated timing between the two, not outraged or anything. I had regrets of doing my dailies as soon as I could (my normal routine on nightshift) and shared them. I've learned a few new things which I appreciate and will keep learning I'm sure. If the feedback is beneficial to the developers, great - if not, that's okay too.

[frail onyx]

When you go into your station there is a big message board between the main buildings and the resource generators. If you click on it then you can see all the messages from scopely - it generally gives the event calendars there. Hth and good luck - the UI isn’t exactly intuitive! 🙂

Also try using whatever warship you have (vahklas?) on the swarms. Until the Franklin gets higher level, is often easier to kill swarms without it.

[primal flume]

@frail onyx my biggest ship now is the Kehra at tier 7 I'll try that too - thanks (thanks all really, good information).

[vagrant topaz]

Agreed on it generally not being intuitive, but when the new news item appeared you get a new icon with a big fat red 1 indicator, hard to miss 😅

[frail onyx]

No worries. Do you use captain cadet uhura, cadet McCoy and t’laan for swarms? That’s probably your best crew at the moment

[uneven relic]

Or more likely Next Gen La forge, and Next Gen Bev. With Tlaan on the side

[frail onyx]

Big Red circles was biggest challenge for me - so much self control required not to take my dailies before the sms started!

[uneven relic]

If started recently, as they became the new starter crew

[frail onyx]

Yes. Need more coffee

[vagrant topaz]

I know right 😂 I failed for the first two rewards I got so just logged off until event reset

[autumn wadi]

My highest swarm target mission (of 3) is level 28, which gives me targets that are well over twice my strongest ship. That's out. I cannot collect my 24hr chest within the timeframe left for the end of this event, so that's out. I would need to rush a 4-day Ops upgrade to collect the 20 points from station upgrades, so that's plausible but extremely aggravating. I only have positive standing with fed so I've already knocked off my L30 and L31 kills (that involved some rushed repairs but was at least practical to do). The other things are relatively trivial to achieve. But even if I do that I'll fall 10 points short of the total I need to max this out.

Basically, telling me I should have just read the notification with the event calendar is a cop-out. Expecting people (especially relatively new ones) to know that you need to plan your whole day or even week around a game is garbage. It's unintuitive to structure an event this way. If it had simply run at the same time as the daily reset window there would have been no issue.

[frail onyx]

Actually, if you have her, cath is probably better than tlaan for you (unless you have somehow got a T4 tlaan)

Have you tried hitting the L28 swarms with a properly crewed ship? You might be surprised.

[primal flume]

I will @cold oar going to try both the crew suggested here, recalling now. My crew was built for boosting health/shields/defense using Chen and some of her crewmates. Leaning on franklin's percentage bump to do the damage.

[frail onyx]

Chen mitigates energy damage so doesn’t do anything against swarms unfortunately

(Interceptors are generally kinetic damage)

[autumn wadi]

is what I'm using to crew the Vahklas.

My Cath only gives 12% compared to T'laan's 15%.

(I know that wasn't at me specifically but just to say I did check).

280k vs 605k, I don't see this going particularly well. Maybe I can kill one? Two? I don't even have any particularly decent exocomps I can try.

Of course I have 80% interceptor and BS damage but not Explorer 😆

[frail onyx]

At least your vahklas get the triangle bonus!

[autumn wadi]

Survived 2, popped on the third, just. At least I've got some repair speedups banked. Should be viable.

[primal flume]

@uneven relic @earnest harness @frail onyx Many thanks for the insights and counterpoints - with all your help I learned a great deal, not the least of which is that I am able (with some extra ship repairs) to clear all my daily Goals for a total of 395 points (at station level 24) and achieve all the Buffer Time rewards (well, I will in the next hour or so). Solid peer building work folks. I will endeavor to do the same for someone in the future.

[white bramble]

😊😉💪

[vagrant topaz]

didn't the first LD recruits chests from april had a chance for harrison's shards? Why removing one of the most wanted officers from the chest?

[pseudo lantern]

Cause $$$$$

[paper girder]

Loving this complete dailies event, good job 💯

[tawny hedge]

Only the top alliances or whales on my server consistently have anything over a Franklin at this point since we're new. This event is very clearly a slap in our faces.

[trail shale]

Apparently your alliance is lazy, and the scoring is that way to keep the whales from blowing through it in one day.

Not my words mind you. this is what I was told when I brought up the problem.

[tawny hedge]

we've been in a hard burn and we're 20% of the way to the lowest rewards after 2 days.

averaging that most kills are with a franklin which rewards 14 points with LD that's over 11k kills.

[trail shale]

I've already barked up that tree m8.

[tawny hedge]

they just need to put less emphasis on the bonuses from the ships and put more emphasis on rewarding the grind

[fresh frost]

aw, butthurt much? I'm famous! 🤣

[tawny hedge]

being a whale should give an advantage but not be necessary to even score

its just poorly designed

[trail shale]

And now you're blocked. I've had enough whale shrilling for one day.

[fresh frost]

🤣

[trail shale]

This

[tawny hedge]

maybe they should simply label it HEROIC 😉

[trail shale]

Or "whales only!"

[fresh frost]

How much do we actually care about 2 watered down recruit pulls, some axionics which are two a penny anyway, an avatar and 2 whole mariner shards?

[tawny hedge]

I mean we don't if that's what they are asking us to do to achieve them

[fresh frost]

It's an entirely ignorable event for me 😂

[tawny hedge]

maybe they are simply telling us to go spend time with our families 😛

[trail shale]

Or find another game 😆

[fresh frost]

The best part is, knowing how discord block works... he's being tempted by the 'show blocked' link every time I say something 😂

[tawny hedge]

in the end we're just NPCs for the whales

[fresh frost]

The game is free, we are the product

That's fine by me 😂

[slender spear]

Oh, COME ON

[high harbor]

So... Did they ever explain how they're going to add back the points scored before they switched the LD recruit XSLB to an SLB? People put in mats, and a full day later they're not represented in the LB scoring

[white bramble]

All we know is that these points will be added back to the new event at some point.

[high harbor]

I do get that it's a holiday and was a (holiday) weekend but

[uncut radish]

Blackmail SMS has a really nice payout (lvl 38 anyway). More of this please 🙂

[high harbor]

Syndicate Advancement SMS and SLB seems broken. Didn't score a syndicate chest I opened in the last half hour. I raised it to support, but as always, curious to know if this is a common bug or just me

[crimson arrow]

Also not been given any points for Syndicate SMS / SLB I opened mine after event reset but no points. 😤

[stuck minnow]

Same here 😦

[vagrant topaz]

Same issue as the rest. Opened syndicate xp well after reset, no points @wanton copper

[junior stump]

Way to screw people add an event not listed and make sure free to play cant finish cause we already did our syndacate chests. Not cool

[wraith zephyr]

Yeah that one caught me off guard, it would have been nice to know before I redeemed my syndicate chest

[junior pond]

@wanton copper Previews of events are great, but this chart is only useful if you actually include all of the events on on it (like Syndicate)

[wraith zephyr]

Man I love compensation chests though 🤷

[slender tundra]

Lol

[vernal isle]

Even if you had all your daily pulls available, and had the prime syndicate xp, you couldn’t finish this event without buying packs anyways

[white bramble]

Or to add to that you need a really high syndicate level

[slender spear]

dem 2 Tendi and 1 rutherford shard will feel gooood

[fading venture]

So am I wrong here or is there literally no way to complete the syndicate sms without spending, again?

[slender spear]

maybe there will be events, where you get enough syn points

i hope atleast

[rare silo]

I also already collected my PC credits for Ship parts; had I known I would've gotten SynXP instead.

[rocky kraken]

what is the point of event for the greater good, its ridiculous scoring.

[dark pine]

Could u extend the AMS another day? Doubling points is all good but it’s still not enough time

[eager slate]

A guy in my alliance did use his mutliphasic credit for a Syndicate pack and he didn't even get points for it

[stuck minnow]

Me too

[sterile idol]

Exactly, absolute piss-take 🤬

[eager slate]

He did

[signal cloak]

I'm not sure how the syndicate event even makes sense outside timing it with the battlepass. In 3 days at my syndicate level I can max get 750 pts which is barely enough for the 1st two levels

no way to get to 11k

[fervent laurel]

Multiply 750 by 5. Maybe even by 10. Last time they ran the event, it was also x10

Still not enough, but better than before

[rare silo]

You are actually getting 10pts per XP, despite the tooltip stating 5x. But its still nowhere enough.

[queen kindle]

Ah, double scoring, I remember that bug, it happened last time too

[white bramble]

I think it’s happened on every run of the syndicate event so far 😬

[sterile idol]

It's still not enough. I get 300xp a day, and need 12k in 3 days to finish. Nice one scopely...

[barren jacinth]

20h 50 min before event's end (i know everyone tells what this is a 4 days event, but timer...) and my team only not got the first milestone in AMS. I dislike this event.

[fervent laurel]

My alliance didn't even finish half of the first ms 😅

[white bramble]

Feedback has already been relayed for this event. I agree the scoring is very tough. Personally my alliance reached the first milestone today. Hopefully the road is easier now and you get the milestones quicker as it’s only 600k to the last one

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper What is the point of having an SMS event (specifically Syndicate Advancement) that can't be fully completed? My final tier requires 11k points but I get 2500 points from each syndicate store pull. I can squeeze in 4 pulls in three days but that still leaves me 1000 points shy of completing the event.

[crimson arrow]

Looking at my SLB for Syndicate looks like some people are getting zero points (like me) per XP gain and others 10 points. @wanton copper this isn’t right and it’s not the first time it’s happened either 😤

[past spoke]

@wanton copper just looking for confirmation this sms is supposed to be buy to complete event? Even after collecting xp for next 3 days I can only obtain 3,750 points

[white bramble]

The points are doubled up on that one so you will get to 7500 (x10 instead of stated x5). As far as we know the event isn’t fully completable f2p

[past spoke]

Ta and my bad didn’t do the calculations right 🙈 it confuses me why the sms needs to be part buy when a slb is running at the same time and this requires spending to compete. Any who’s it is what it is and thanks for fast reply 👍

[white bramble]

Normally this event has been completable f2p because we have the extra syndicate xp from battlepass or event store but this time we are on our own :(

[white bramble]

No problem 🖖

[barren jacinth]

"isn't fully completable f2p SMS/AMS" - total dislike👎

[white bramble]

AMS?

There is no AMS for the syndicate event?

[barren jacinth]

current AMS not completable for middle powered alliances too. only big alliances with big amount of big ships (whales) can finish it without any troubles. so, for me AMS not f2p too.

[white bramble]

Oh the for the greater good AMS. That’s totally completable f2p just requires lots of grinding.

[fresh frost]

Define "big ships" and "whales" for the context please?
Some newer servers definitely have the soggy end of this particular stick, but that's the same regardless for some events on newer servers...

[barren jacinth]

"a lot of grinding"? after CoW and 2 days of faction hunt? we already have a players who offline almost week because they're sick of the same events. but CoW and FH can be complete easily, this one - no. this not a "lots of grinding", its "you will grind so much and will hate the game". i'm personally like FH and CoW, but this AMS - total fail from scopely. it have a bad reward and we can just dont do event... but not completed AMS will do a bad influence on alliance. If we cant finish it, so we're a bad team. But we're not bad team - its just a bad designed event.

[white bramble]

The points got adjusted for the event. The maths turns out that per player you have to kill a little more than you would for COW

[fresh frost]

8 months and up should be plenty of epic ships to grind through it with.

It's not an event that you swing through with hitting big targets, it's chewing through a bunch of little ones

[white bramble]

I agree the AMS didn’t cut it that well. It should have been a lot easier from the start

[barren jacinth]

G4 ships and higher. My alliance have only a 5 G4 ships and 2 of them offline, because they're tired from the same events. great success for scopely.

[fresh frost]

For difficulty, the event isn't too bad... Its just that the payout is ridiculous 😂

[barren jacinth]

math dont consider the human nature. and not all players in alliance have the same ships. not all guys in my team have a G3 epics. so, our ships gives us lower points - as result lower success in event. no matter how much we will grind reds.

[fresh frost]

Does that factor in the 25x1200 that you get on cow just for the dailies?

[white bramble]

I believe it does

[barren jacinth]

and people have work and family. we cant grind all day. for the record, some of us need sleep too.

[junior pond]

I'm not sure the math adjustment was in time. We finish crucible every time but have not reached milestone one yet here.

[fresh frost]

We just reached step 1, but we're also at war and not really doing events right now 😅

[junior pond]

Yeah, one of those hurt us 2 crucibles ago

[white bramble]

That’s not bad you might reach the 1.3mil points by the end 🤔

[fresh frost]

I'm also allergic to that much grind for that little payout 😂

[barren jacinth]

exactly. my team finished last cow in 2 days. we reached first milestone only a few min ago and we all tired.

[storm ridge]

Should be receiving them now

[turbid hamlet]

When did this syndicate post I claimed my daily syndicate xp after the reset this morning and this wasn't up 5 mins after that at least

I normally have it timed to claim then in case events like this come up and kind of annoying if the event posted after the usual time

[queen kindle]

About half an hour after reset, but it could have varied depending on your server.

[vagrant topaz]

It came at least 24 minutes late for our server as well

[sterile idol]

I'm ops 49, not f2p, but no chance I'm ever buying a pack just to complete a SMS event 🤣🙈 scopely you trippin

[turbid hamlet]

So do we get points because of the fact they posted late?

[queen kindle]

You can ask CS, but I doubt it. The surprise event was evenly applied to everyone, and you weren't disadvantaged more than any other.

[visual anchor]

Is there even a path to finish that syndicate event? None that I can find. I can get about half way through it, a bit more if I buy the prime syndicate path, but that’s about it. Even buying packs, there’s no path to completion, unless they start handing out syndicate points in some event coming up.

[vagrant topaz]

Note the rewards are 10 points per syndicate xp not the 5 the event says. Still impossible for f2p but might make a difference in your pack calculations.

[visual anchor]

Yeah, that makes a difference, although still no f2p. Silly me, expecting the description to accurately reflect the points.

[frail onyx]

Psst! Scopely, if you add an event paying out Syndicate XP tonight you could probably get away with pretending it was all planned! 🥸

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper , Please pass this on to the STFC team. I have long found STFC to be a fun game with many aspects for enjoyment. For me, that is setting goals for myself such as completing my all my daily milestones, completing most events (exception being leaderboards) and leveling up my Ops while also keeping up with buildings, research and ships. Today's Syndicate Advancement SMS event appears to be a Pay to Win event, which I accept for leaderboards, but making the final payout of a SMS out of reach of F2P players has disappointed and angered me. This cuts off at the knees one of my joys of achieving small goals (completing SMS events) while I advance in the game. Now I'm asking myself what's the point of playing if the daily small goals that bring me enjoyment are no longer achievable. Pay to play should be kept to leaderboards while SMS events should be F2P to keep the game fun. If I can't find enjoyment in fully completing solo milestones then I'll find a another game that gives me that enjoyment. Right now, STFC is losing my interest.

[uneven relic]

only the Daily Syndicate chest is 10/Syn XP. if you got the Syndicate from an event or pack etc, its 5/Syn XP

[sterile idol]

"You were all shafted equally, so it's fair..." 🤣🙈

[vagrant topaz]

I hope they do. It could be the saving grace that keeps me in the game.

[true falcon]

Retaining players has never been scopley's goal, unless you give them your wallet, life and soul.

[vagrant topaz]

Just out of curiosity, why does this event in particular tick you off? We have several p2p sms events every month

And this one is ‘pay for final milestone’ only. Vs plenty we have ‘pay to play at all’

[white bramble]

Agreed i would rather have 3 free than none. Also given that this event wasn’t even on the calendar any of it done free is better than none

[lethal barn]

The big issue is they will use this event as an excuse to push more armada events.in the next arc 'cause they gave us rare directives'

[white bramble]

I don’t think that will happen given the amount of feedback saying we don’t want more armadas events. Also I would think they know that only about 75 of those directives were obtainable f2p

[barren jacinth]

every not finished sms its a bad players' mood. especially if players tried to finish, but cant because its paywalled or dev team made to difficult conditions for completion of event. game should give us a good mood and fun, not disappointment.

[high aurora]

Apex early??? @wanton copper

[reef berry]

Now they've finished for the last two days, feedback;

Buffer time:
Nice concept poorly implemented for EU servers. Early evening daily reset for most of us. People like to play when they like not being forced too. Some times people do their dailies in the mornings and other times the evenings. If someone had already done the dailies for Sunday (and collected them because they don't wait for reset to actually collect (and who does that anyway?)) and wasn't intending to do Monday's dailies until the next evening they'd not get the event done despite not missing a daily - more thought needed please.

For the Greater Good - AMS:
Pretty dire rewards for a massive combined effort, not fun at all. Why weren't the assignment trophies 10x what they were. It's basically CoW anyway just follow the same system!

[silent steppe]

What's with the event for daily goal? This is second time now not getting event completed because the powers that be decided they want to start an event 12 hrs after dailies were refreshed. They might as well though up and event for missions already passed with no chance of completing🤷‍♂️ really what's the point??

[quartz creek]

@wanton copper You guys realize you pulled the trigger on APEX a day early?

[white bramble]

It’s been on the calendar and there is always half of tomorrow to score in it

[earnest harness]

Buffer Time should be completable in one day's worth of daily objectives.

[mild coyote]

Here have some feedback, make event possible to complete! "Just like CoW" except CoW is super easy to complete complete compared

[barren jacinth]

50 active players got only this result in 3 days. If scopely doing events for high level players with G4/5 ships they should write about that in description. too much depends from ship here. During CoW we didn't grind all day - daily and some additional grind was enough. Without something like gold trophy from CoW "For the greater good" AMS too hard for middle powered alliances without big amounts of big ships.

[limber marsh]

My event shop is empty, is this right? Latest update event section is faulty again

[white bramble]

You don’t need G4/G5 ships we did it with G3 ships

[white bramble]

Already forwarded the event store being empty for apex to Scopley

[golden kiln]

Ya no apex store here either

[barren jacinth]

oh, so, we should kick every small guy from our team and search for players with G3 ships? not every active player in my team have a G3 ship, they grind with their strongest. sometimes its a vidar or small franklin. one guy used a legionary. and no, we cant merged with another alliance, because its matter of language barrier. in CoW every small guy can do a big influence in total ams points by finishing solo and getting gold trophy. no need to grind all day. and please stop telling to every guy from "not finished the AMS alliance" what their experience not important and they just need GRIND MORE and they will finish.

[white bramble]

A lot of our guys had to use Pann crew and speed around low level systems to get it done. If your desperate to finish it then find a solution if not grow your ships till you can do it.

[barren jacinth]

its just a bad designed event, because if we can finish CoW, we should finish and this one.

[vagrant topaz]

Poor design

[worldly umbra]

Not all events are designed to be finished though. I think it's good that they are starting to create harder events. Should really be reflected with better rewards though

The AMS targets were fine.

[queen kindle]

This one was designed to be finished though, not heroic-targeting. Hopefully they got it right for how hard they wanted it, but some of the problems affecting newer servers were addressable by a different strategy

[vocal rune]

Apex 1 day earlier and for 2 days only???

[keen remnant]

You done goofed, scopely. Apex is a problem unless you reset it so the ams is 3 days

Pretty sure it's almost impossible to fully complete the ams with just day 1 and 2 rogue trophies, even with 75+ member alliances

[frail onyx]

Scopely, just stop doing special mini-events until you get the basics sorted. I’d prefer 4 rounds of faction hunt that scored properly and started/finished when they were supposed to rather than this.

[vagrant topaz]

Apex event is something old, how can you screw it is beyond my comprehension

[trail shale]

Certainly would be if materials needed for ship upgrades to complete some of these daily objectives wouldn't be drip fed so stinking slow.

Just about every event, merely highlights how badly that refinery needs a total overhaul for the benefit of the player, and not the companies pocket.

[vagrant topaz]

What do ship upgrades have to do with daily objectives?

[trail shale]

Explain how is one supposed to complete daily hostile kills, when required hostile levels power is well over current players?

How is a player supposed to upgrade a ship to match that requirement, when one part needs 1600 UC materials?

[vagrant topaz]

From the screenshot you provided your issue seems to be with faction dailies. Just grind it down a bit again, the objectives will lower 😉

[trail shale]

With said faction locked. 😆 🤣

Come up with something constructive instead of blaming the player for progressing in a game mostly about progression.

[vagrant topaz]

Why would you lock a faction if you can’t do the dailies?

[trail shale]

I could, before it was locked

[white bramble]

Wait you can’t do the 10mil faction rep dailys?

Ouch 😬😬😬

[trail shale]

That's not going to help with objective points, only reputation and faction credits

[white bramble]

What ship are you using?

[trail shale]

Same ship I've been trying like h³ll to get teired up for over a month now.

[white bramble]

What ops are you? 🤔

[trail shale]

30

[white bramble]

If tiering up the ship is too hard I recommend doing more research’s

[white bramble]

Wow you locked early

I locked at Ops 32

[trail shale]

I've already hit Consort with Klingons.

Not that I'm bragging... I've been fortunate to pull that off

[white bramble]

Nice. Tbh after the 10mil the 30 mil bracket is G4 so you can’t do it regardless

[vagrant topaz]

But not considering the consequence. Fortunate indeed.

[trail shale]

Didn't plan on it. All my progression is haulted across the board until that Sally is next tier. I'm not even going to bother upgrading ops for a very looooooooonnnnnnggggg time

But this is the type of stuff that's gone beyond excessive because too many of one material is called for at a time for things a player needs to "keep up". yet a player cannot refine more thanks to a refinery that is pure RNG, when in all honesty (and idc who's feelings this hurts) it needs to be player input to player output. If I put 75k raw in, I should never see anything below Uncommon.

I have literally been told time and again that camping an ops level can detriment a player; yet what exactly is a player to do in this scenario?

[queen kindle]

I don't think the issue is camping vs not camping here. Pushing ops, or rep in this case, too fast is also a bad thing. There's a balance between both that results in a better gaming experience

[trail shale]

I'm not asking for much, and I'm sure the players in my exact position aren't either, when we scream across servers in agreeance:

"The refinery is garbage"

All we ask if for a drip feed to become at least a slightly faster trickle.

We don't want an event that will rain materials, or another pack to buy, we just want the refinery to be substantially better than it already is.

[white bramble]

Everyone knows the refinery is worthless most your uc should be coming out of events

[trail shale]

But in a way dosnt that make the point of refining pointless? Events are supposed to supplement your supply, not be the supply?

If that were the case, remove the refinery and uptick event payouts 20 fold.

At the least in that case, we'd know what we're getting no?

[queen kindle]

How much do you need? 20x payouts is insane, it'd push the population to G5 so fast

[white bramble]

The amount of uc a ops 30 needs is no where the amount a 39 needs and by ops 39 the payouts have increased

[queen kindle]

Personally, I don't think 20x is at all reasonable. Players would consume the game in a year.

[trail shale]

20x 4 = 80 UC. (Swarm event as example) that is not going to make progression like lightning.

Even at tenfold, that's 40/event.

A player at over ops 30 is not going to blow through that.

[white bramble]

With 20x I would be ops 60 within 9 month 😬 and I’m f2p

[white bramble]

Yes but you haven’t seen the payouts at Ops 31-39

[queen kindle]

This is my Buffer Time SMS.

[trail shale]

And at this rate I won't for almost a year! 😂 🤣

[trail shale]

Then scale it.

[queen kindle]

So you want the newer players to catch up to the vets? with less effort in the game?

[trail shale]

I want progression that dosnt take a month to get one peice of said progression done.

[white bramble]

Takes a year to get from ops 24 to ops 34 with at least 1 maxed sally and more stuff I don’t see your point.

[high aurora]

They already did that when they introduced the battlepass

[queen kindle]

Perhaps, but the scale that's being asked for is quite different

[high aurora]

Eventually they will hit the uncommon ore wall at 42, just some will have been sitting there longer

[queen kindle]

Compressing most of a month's effort into one event is pretty drastic of a change.

[high aurora]

It will get people to the same pain points, but it should not be compressed too much. What happens to someone who misses a few days

[trail shale]

Same thing that happens now: you fall behind.

[high aurora]

The more you compress something, the bigger the gap when they miss that specific window

[trail shale]

And I agree with that, that's why it needs to be addressed, scaled, and fixed, because as it is now: its just frustration.

It's frustrating to ship 3 miners for 4 hours, to pull a refinery draw and get nothing but common that can be bought with latinum anyway

[queen kindle]

Every server's their own galaxy, so you can't really fall behind if everyone's experiencing the same level of income.

[high aurora]

Bad income is equally bad, agreed 😉

[idle hazel]

CaptV.....have u tried maxing and scrapping envoys to get the UNC C you need to tier the sally? If Im not mistaken....you get 33 UNC C per scrap with 18? UNC Gas. A few of those and some event payouts like the cerrito wed event....and youd be on your way....at least it wouldnt take quite as long as you might think to tier your ship.

[frail onyx]

Progression under 40 f2p is fine IMO. Plenty of 3* if you don’t feel you have to do every research and max every ship before leveling up.

[fading venture]

So, what's the point of giving us a schedule of events when you dont stick to it? As much as I don't mind have Apex launch a day early, plans were made man!

"Commanders,

I have news about the events coming up! Check out the schedule below and make sure to tag @Jess Atreides so they know when Apex is happening

LLAP vulcan

-Eco

5/23-5/25: COW, Military Supremacy
5/26-5/27: Faction Hunt
5/28: Cosmic Cleanup
5/28-5/31: Memorial Day Event
6/1-6/3: Apex
6/4-6/6: Hostile Hunt/In the Field"

[trail shale]

That's a slow going WIP.

[dense scaffold]

Plus right now it says it's for 2 days, not 3

[fading venture]

You're right. I didn't catch that, Apex is always 3, what the hell?

[queen kindle]

Pretty sure I've seen a 2-day Apex before, with no SLB.

[quiet surge]

i completed my dailies before Buffer Time SMS started, is this how its supposed to work?

[fathom surge]

I would say no to the auction as we just finished one.

[soft agate]

@wanton copper if it will be a spend event for harrison burnham... hold off.. we just had a spend event

[halcyon walrus]

free harrison shards from slb, its better than not running it at all imo 😄

[unkempt echo]

@wanton copper No news about the impossible to compete Syndicate SMS?

[fiery hamlet]

Another spend event this close to the last one seems like a bit much

[random garnet]

@wanton copper running another auction is tough if its based on material spend, unless we get some higher event payouts people wont have the stores to compete

[river gorge]

Harrison should definitely be in auctions more often, however if its just another slb we have already had many recently

[keen sail]

@wanton copper either change it from an auction or postpone it.

[sick mural]

@wanton copper I want the auction but please fix the event brackets... Scopely keeps expecting ops35 to compete with ops39

[marsh sundial]

What would the scoring mechanic be for the auction @wanton copper?

[thorny heath]

and material spend again... why not have something other than material? XP spend for example with levelling up crews

[opaque juniper]

It should include all levels (uncommon, rare, and epic) of armadas started, there should also be points if you win and lose the armada!!!

[brittle wyvern]

@wanton copper a bit too early to run an auction event just after recuit lower deck event. Possibly let some people regain some res. Possibly a jf brawl event

[unreal osprey]

Not another mats spend auction. 🙄

[storm ridge]

@wanton copper , I already told you this in the private rooms and such, but if you make a SPEND auction (I'd live with domination or ultra) auction this week after a horrible weekend run (that included a spend auction), I'm gona set more fires

[opaque juniper]

A material raided or stolen event would be cool for the officers!!!

[brittle wyvern]

A mate spend event so soon after last one is a bad idea

[distant bay]

@wanton copper A power auction would be great. Harrison is a good officer for these, but I'd be way more likely to participate if it was for HGW or even B'Etor. (Note: full power, not just buildings and research, unless you plan on fixing the defense platforms prior to this event.)

[strong steeple]

I would be OK with ultra or domination.

[rough forge]

@wanton copper Changes to the rules / scoring metrics should not be only communicated here, but in game too.

Example: The away team event stated starting a mission with LD officer would score... but that did not work and the scoring metrics were changed. Only to be communicated on Discord, but not in-game; and the scoring descriptions still stated LD score points.

[brittle wyvern]

Or an event that gives res

[sacred mortar]

Spend might be too close to the other one, ultra is highly p2w (amount of ultra tokens per pack compared to the ones we can get for free is higher than g3-5), so I'd say power event

[thorny turret]

Death to auctions!

[toxic sinew]

@wanton copper all auction events are ‘why bother’ for me. So, I guess I don’t really care about it.

[trim dune]

Only if it can be balanced

[thorny turret]

Milestone completion events like the recent Tendi one are superior, and encourage activity and participation rather than Credit Card wallets.

[solemn moth]

No more between arc auctions. Bad enough when there's new content with it.

[upbeat sundial]

@wanton copper I don’t have Harrison so running an SMS and Auction is cool with me

[tribal dust]

Harrison event please make it sms too

[vocal tiger]

@wanton copper another auction right before an arc I think is a tough ask… I suggest another day of faction hunt as folk love rewards from that and 3 days of hostile hunt can get a bit tedious so this would give a 2 for 1 payout!

[granite abyss]

Just rename the auction to Burnham/Harrison money grab event. Just be honest about it

[rotund sonnet]

@evo HGWorf should be made available through auction event....Harrison and Burnham are not as sought after imho

[vagrant topaz]

There won't be an sms, only auction. Because scopely.

[misty oyster]

@wanton copper HG Worf

[wicked fern]

@wanton copper let’s take a break from auctions mkay? We literally just finished a Tendi auction yesterday, rolling into another arc next week and just tagging a new month tomorrow. A break from the obvious greed of Scopely would be overwhelmingly refreshing

[upbeat sundial]

But thats my feedback lol

[buoyant crag]

The short answer is no. The long answer is nooooooo.

[north moth]

Auctions if scaled correctly and bracketed well can be worth it... but after a SLB for Tendi where a lot of materials and Directives were spent... that will definitely be a pain point for Free to Play or near free to play... @wanton copper thank you for asking for feedback

[sacred mortar]

U guys can get worf from the amalgam refinery, and he's cheap to max in shards compared to other epics

[knotty moth]

Spend event most likely, sure whatever. The lead boards will probably be 1-30 and 30-40 and 50+. So whatever eco.

[frozen cobalt]

@wanton copper heck yes to the officer auction! The more events the better, no one wins if it isn't there, so I'd rather have the possibility of earning some extra shards! 🥳

[mental helm]

@wanton copper Harrison YES!!!!!!....but maybe during the coming BP, or right after the coming BP. Also tighten the brackets, or otherwise less people will want to participate.

[rotund sonnet]

Rolling auction events back to back at least raises chance of various winners

[raven ledge]

@wanton copper an auction event. To make up for awful events that have been badly executed. Straight after an auction event and before a new arc which will probably have auction events is a terrible idea. More of a money grab than anything for the community

[grim escarp]

@wanton copper you guys ran 2 auctions during battle pass, just ran one last weekend… now you want to run another one right before the next battlepass starts. Where do you think people are getting the mats for this at? Sourcing was terrible last month with battlepass because the exchange for uc mats was absolutely terrible. Why not make it a sms event, that is completeable, where everyone can get a handful of shards and some much needed materials??

[distant flint]

@wanton copper two back to back spendathons? I like the idea of making Harrison available, but can we do a mechanic other than Matt spend?

[fathom surge]

I'd rather see the OG tribble event, not the one you could buy your way to win, but the first run of the tribble event

[hybrid harness]

@wanton copper I will agree with those that say resource no but power sure we haven’t had one of those in a while

[bright tide]

@eco we definitely need events to give officers we can normally get in other ways so Harrison yes Burnham no but picard and data are needed

[wicked fern]

F2P players are pissed right now. Let them breathe please.

[upbeat sundial]

If they do an auction and sms, the next arc auction will have less spenders 🤣

[vagrant topaz]

No mention of the short syndicate event that is impossible to finish?

[thorny turret]

They don’t care about F2P or light-spender players…

[wicked fern]

@wanton copper Picard SMS PLEASE!! We need QOL events, not more greedy auctions!

[autumn coral]

@wanton copper no no no. Not another auction straight after 2 others. Go fish and stop trying to bleed us dry.

[modest ice]

@wanton copper. With apex being only 2 days does that remove the event for the stella skin.

[lyric quiver]

They should add an sms element that’s power based as well so there’s something for everyone

[wicked fern]

I do, it’s who I raid. We need them for a healthy player base!

[rotund sonnet]

Those complaining about frequency of auction events... surely its a good thing so that same people don't win every time... makes it necessary to wait until the right 'lot' for you comes along

[pearl rampart]

Auctions suck and you'd think scopley would get that after 3 plus years. Auctions seems to be getting to be the norm is there something scopely needs to tell us. Need money that bad.

[naive relic]

I just like the thought of “we royally screwed things up this weekend, so we are changing the schedule, slamming things together, hope we don’t mess this up, and we are going to run another event like the one we screwed up on.” Makes total sense to me after the fiasco that just happened.

[pulsar hatch]

@wanton copper We just had a sms spend for the lower deck officers. Make it something else like gain officers shards, spend ship xp, use ultra recruits. Anything but a material spend auction. F2p, almost have no chance.

[merry finch]

@wanton copper how about you do an “event” where you lower the prices on packs in the stores so us players in the not F2P but not spending thousands can catch up instead?

[abstract oriole]

@wanton copper 5 or Picard / with Harrison!!

[ruby sand]

Compensation chest yes auction no 😂👍

[sacred mortar]

Harrison is very useful and hard to get. Really looking forward to it.

[bright tide]

@eco I didn't say though NO NOT AN AUCTION you make the rss needed way to high and force us to spend cash

[sacred mortar]

Burnham is meh

[knotty moth]

LMAO balanced I’m sure It’ll be scopely balanced. 1-25, 25-40 and 40+.

[trim tulip]

@wanton copper why are we having a Burnham/ harrison event, when we have never had another opportunity for Data shards since the arc he was introduced in? How about an SMS that rewards Data shards, and add him to a recruit chest?

[cold solstice]

Eco, given it takes me 3-4 months to save up enough 4* uncommons to upgrade 1 thing, let alone the 5 or 8 needed to win a auction, I'd rather an event for Harrison not be a auction. I've still not unlocked him, and he's been out for what 2 years now? lol Why not a grind event for him for a change?

[stuck bone]

@wanton copper I have to agree with a bunch of comments I already read here... Don't know what type of "auction" you are planning and my bracket makes it literally undoable as it is anyway (I cannot compete against 5x points so I don't care) but... running another spend auction back to back between arks presumably with another one or two (if not three) of them coming up in the next ark is just milking the cow, nothing more.

[last rune]

@wanton copper please man, no more auctions.

Or make Harrison a domination style one at the least

[sacred mortar]

Make it only Harrison, but give 200 shards lol

[twilit furnace]

Picard/Harrison definitely would be preferred, but I'm tapped out thanks to Tendi. Ultra recruit SLB could be interesting.

[vagrant topaz]

Not one but two runs of garbage Apex event. Cos nothing builds a laggy steaming pile of poo like an event that forces an entire server into a 10 system space. Nice one @wanton copper

[thorny turret]

@wanton copper please tell your lords and masters that we liked the milestones, and more activity-based unlocks like the recent Tendi one, and most of us are sick to death of the nearly non-stop auctions.
You need to stop.

[lone obsidian]

@wanton copper we've had multiple SLB auction events that continue to burn us out of mats. Make it an SMS that we can gain a few shards and I'm good with it but give us some RSS or mats with it.

Please, please, please make sure Apex has the skin SLB available. We've got a lot of people that have been waiting months for it.

[mellow heron]

@wanton copper While running a Harrison/Burnham auction will appeal to many, running it between arcs largely depends on what currency is required and bearing in mind that is doesn't mean us going into another arc with said currency depleted if it will be needed for in-arc auction next month. Quite happy for them to be presented in a pack like Harrison was last week.

[sturdy carbon]

@wanton copper most of these auctions get gobbled up by whales and the players they financially support in game. Unless a player specifically saves up for a given spend event, we have zero chance of placing, let alone winning. I’m tired of every event being a Scopely vacuum into my wallet.

[vagrant topaz]

This all just really sounds like "we created a bad experience through shortsightedness and got called out for it. We would like to fix this by creating multiple other reasons for you to be angry"

[brittle wyvern]

Why can’t they just add time to apex event and run the other parts as usual @wanton copper

[twilit furnace]

No more material spend events this week please. We all need breaks between those.

[cold solstice]

Also Burnham is not someone I ever use other than for away missions, so I would never waste any energy to collect more of her.

[timid willow]

Definitely not an auction event. Just make it an sms.

[bright tide]

They would give you about 5 picard shards and expect you to spend 18 hours killing reds for it

[lyric quiver]

Harrison was domination style when it has run in the past. I ranked 3rd in my bracket the first ever run of it. Didn’t spend any $

[trim dune]

Not the balance I was referring to but that always needs looked at as well.

[simple hazel]

@wanton copper I’m all in on seeing how this works as long as it doesn’t require a black Amex to participate.

[hasty jay]

@wanton copper NO MORE AUCTIONS.

[stuck bone]

from previous encounters I do believe they cannot extend the time without restarting the event - but don't quote me on this 😉

[trim dune]

@wanton copper can it be a rss raised auction? 🤷🏻‍♂️🍻

[alpine topaz]

@wanton copper even as a moderate spender, asking for 2 auctions in a week is ridiculous. 2 a month is hard enough unless you are throwing money at the game. Most ofnusbprefer something we can grind for, but alsonnot something like the ToS armadas that just succeeded in burning people out by asking for 50 to even get 1 prize, or spend it all in one shot, which if you were under 35, was not r3ally something most could managed

Scopely desperately needs to find some more variety. Puzzles like the klingon thing was different and a nice change. Spend stuff and mine stuff and grind stuff cannot be all there is.

[last rune]

Yeah that was for me too. I miss those style auctions. So over material auctions it’s not funny

[rigid idol]

AUCTION.... just another way to cater to whales. I've gotten to the point of why bother.

[sacred mortar]

Why ppl asking for picard? He's kind of the same on t1 than in t5, and u have pike already.

Harrison is useful

[viscid quail]

No need for another auction so soon after having one, in reality auctions need to die and be replaced by material spend events (in arc) in a similar format to Kobiyashi Maru .. I would prefer a guaranteed reward for my spend than get sniped 5 mins before the end

[thin python]

Gosh folks!! Really?? We just need event to grind plane and simple!!

[chrome forge]

@wanton copper Harrison auction is great (less so Burnham), but with an auction already this week, I and many other players are spent. If we had known this was coming, I might have spent differently for Tendi shards. So I say no to auction right now, but would love to have later.

[dapper siren]

@wanton copper I understand the Scopely perspective of a Harrison Auction and the revenue flows it generates… BUT, auctions are for either 1. People who spend loads or 2. People who have loaded up loads of resources. If the goal js to make Harrison available for the whole community then the event should be a recurring SMS event with SMS milestones and not a SLB. Then players can choose whether they want to drop or not. With an auction, u will generate a bigger split between the casual and the paying player.

[night halo]

@wanton copper I don't know what an auction event is, but comments sound like it's bad. Syndicate leaderboard appearing to be the full server instead of level bracketed hurts most players. I'd strongly encourage a spend ultra recruit token event instead for Burnham/Harrison

[mental helm]

Because many still dont have picard

[vagrant topaz]

Dont forget sit around all day running muddmadas, and sit around all day running useless borgmadas, and spend all day trying to find a regular armada to run.

[sacred mortar]

Pike/Moreau still beats Picard/Bev

[golden kraken]

@wanton copper as a long time almost 3year player, battle pass purchase only plus the afew packs here and there, I don't have Harrison unlocked... I'm at 27/38 shards.
I think an SLB will only lead to a draining of materials in between arcs, that I generally need to hold for the arc based events. If you want to get materials out of me, a companion sms with guaranteed Harrison shard payout will do it as I can't compete in an SLB with no guarantee I'll get the shards I need as well as jeopardising my ability to complete the sms events in the next arc. If you do have a companion sms for this Harrison auction PLEASE can it give 11 shards! 😂

[sour dagger]

Depends on level and stats you can stack.

[vagrant topaz]

It's good to have both.

[mental helm]

Aye, it does, but useful on your second ship, especially for grind events

[warm crest]

Absolutely no to auction

[quick nest]

@wanton copper - scanning the responses so far maybe I’m in the minority here but YES HARRISON EVENT! I have literally been waiting for one since the last one ran … December ‘20 maybe? But I agree a mats auction is tough. Let’s go old school and do a power/XP event like before.

[sour dagger]

If you can stack enough def, Picard Bev can outperform Pike Moreau.

[sacred mortar]

Picard/Bev at most can tie with Pike/Moreau with good stats, but never beat them.

Cap ability is the same, and Moreau literally drops hostile piercing stats to 0

[warm crest]

Just no. Feels like a way to get us to spend all our stuff before the next arc so we are screwed.

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper I think players would appreciate if this auction was either ultra recruits or a domination style auction. Another material spend is just too much

[raw berry]

@Eco no Auction!

[sacred mortar]

Just do Harrison alone, more shards of him, and make it domination.

[lyric quiver]

Domination style, the way Harrison auctions have always been, HGW too. Add an sms element so many more can get some shards

[indigo berry]

@wanton copper Harrison is my most chased officer, that card suits both my pvp and pve strategies. if i had known that was the plan i would have not have sunk so much rss into tendi. PLEASE give multiple ways of scoring harrison shards as i am out of rss.

[agile thicket]

I am no to another auction, we just completed the Tendi auction.

[quick nest]

@wanton copper also please let’s make the brackets reasonable. I’m a baby 34, don’t make me go against 39s in my only shot at Harrison in 18 months …

[lyric quiver]

No thanks to ultra recruit token style, maybe I’m alone in this

[proven ibex]

@wanton copper if you are going to run a materials event then turn on Bonus refinery for all levels.

Shards need to be sourced in a SMS as well, I’m empty on RSS.

[elfin leaf]

@wanton copper Yes for Harrison Burnham auction. Also, thank you for your communication and support!

[molten mist]

@wanton copper please do not do auction for Harrison all we ask for is a better way to get the Officer without spending £££££££££

[late gale]

@wanton copper In response to your post in #⭐-official-announcements : I do think a Burnham/Harrison auction would be a good idea, especially if paired with an SMS event like has been the norm lately. I started playing this game in January of 2019, around the same time that Harrison was originally launched, and, more than 3 years later, I still haven't been able to unlock it. Harrison and the Shakedown Cruise common/uncommon officers are the extreme case of lack of sourcing for certain officers. After over 3 years, no one can argue for them still being "premium/early access"

So yes, on face value, I do believe it is a good idea. As usual, it will depend on execution: will the brackets be reasonable or will players in the 30s compete with players in the 50s? Will milestones (if paired with an SMS) be tough but achievable in the various brackets? Will scoring work? Those are usually the elements that make or break these kinds of events

[quick nest]

Ultra recruits would be even worse than mats IMO, as we just emptied the tank on those last arc

[solid imp]

@wanton copper I love to see ‘several people are typing’ for minutes at a time lol

Some succinct feedback points:

1. I’m glad to hear you at least SAY our deployment isn’t up to scratch, we’re working on getting better - you have no idea (or maybe you do) how refreshing that is.

2. no real comment on the apex stuff, personally don’t have any trouble with any of it.

3. the Harrison/Burnham event: here’s the biggie. Frankly, I would be okay skipping this event, ESPECIALLY if it’s a material spend. Two high-value auctions during the arc, another high-value for LD in between… no more materials, please.

4. That said, Harrison has traditionally been a power auction, and that’s fine… but please tell me there’s a paired SMS with a decent-sized payout. There is absolutely NO REASON that an officer as ‘high-value’ as he is should not be properly sourced to people. There are people who played this game WHEN HE WAS RELEASED who don’t have him unlocked, and that’s ridiculous after two years. Burnham I could care less about, personally, so as an epic in this event she almost feels like a justification for continued poor sourcing of Harrison, especially since she’s in ATA’s.

5. Finally, you SHOULD be selected for President; keep up the great work - we’ve needed you!

[vagrant topaz]

Is it just me, or does it feel like we already have weekly/multiple a week auctions? Can you please just tell the shareholders to calm it down a little bit @wanton copper

[boreal grove]

Please change Harrison to Tal. Thanks.

[vagrant topaz]

Succinct? That is a treatise

[stray herald]

@wanton copper just get them to slow down the auctions. It’s getting ridiculous

[regal portal]

Burnham to Tal

[onyx gale]

@Eco burnt out from two recent spend events, Harrison too important to make it a third spend event in a short space of time. Harrison Needs to be more available to mear mortal players as a general comment !

[sacred mortar]

Tal breaks the game, that's why they disabled him.

[left marlin]

@wanton copper plz make sure there’s a paired SMS with the Auction. That’s all I ask, thx🖖

[sacred mortar]

Tal breaks the game lol

[pastel pecan]

@wanton copper sms would be preferable. Save the auctions for arcs when people are spending more

[delicate fractal]

@wanton copper feeling auction burnout. An sms event to get some Harrison/burnham shards would be much more appreciated.

[late gale]

He doesn't break the game anymore, just doesn't really work. Or so I've heard

[sacred mortar]

They disabled his ability. But if he did what the tooltip says, he wld break the game

[late crypt]

@eco would normally be up for a harrison event, been toooooo long. But after having 3 spend events in less than 4 weeks... I'm taaaaaaapped, it's horrible timing to do something like that on us. Would seriously bring my level of resentment up several notches.

[dusky tartan]

@wanton copper we need Tal, and Harrison has been a money grab so much for an officer that got released over a year and half , even lorca is now available

[shrewd ibex]

Tal was already fixed so is useless now

[sacred mortar]

Tal needs a rework before they can release him again

So it's not happening this time

[lyric quiver]

Harrison domination style SLB has historically been run in between arcs, never during

[fading venture]

@wanton copper NO spend event, 3 in a row is enough, give us something else that's bot a freaking SLB for crying out loud. And for the love of God put these events on a calander somewhere that we can see them please!

[shrewd ibex]

@wanton copper need a dom style event, not mat spend

[sacred mortar]

But hey, if u wanna give me Tal like it is, I'll be smacking g5 ships and make whales cry until u are forced to disable him again 😂

[pastel pecan]

I’d be down for domination style just not ultra recruit or mat spend

[crude goblet]

@wanton copper taking in consideration that we just had auction events and in the upcoming arc we most likely will also have auction events these kind of event runs to often. I would prefer to skip the auction and do an SMS (without spend mats or armadas) instead.

[vagrant topaz]

You know what would be nice? Some damn alliance credits. Yall been stingey with those for a long time now

[dusky tartan]

@wanton copper 1 more thing, people has become unable to even complete their SMS with the overwhelming number of auctions, power or spending, both require speed ups, lat, materials etc etc

[lyric quiver]

Agree, add an sms element to run parallel, maybe toss in a Harrison avatar 🙂

[solid imp]

Shoulda seen what I cut. Would you have preferred, ‘Nice to have you, auction bad, source better’?

[sacred mortar]

Ohhh heeeelllll no. The only reason we are able to get rid of rogues is bc they can't get alliance tokens easily to buy shields and relos. Do not touch that lol

[pastel pecan]

Oooo that would be awesome

[hasty oyster]

@wanton copper Harrison was just for sale…too soon, another officer would be better

[sacred mortar]

Harrison is the perfect officer to give for free

Since they only offered on the cash shop

[solid imp]

Nifty idea, but wouldn’t it resemble the Khan avatar in-game already? Lol

[bold niche]

PvP in TC space, based on damage and/or win and loss (without subtracting points for losing.

[sick dome]

@wanton copper Harrison is the perfect choice

[lyric quiver]

I think that’s Harrison

[blissful patrol]

@wanton copper nobody cares about Burnham do georgiou or someone who is difficult to source.

[boreal grove]

Realta hostile kills for Harrison/Tal!

[alpine topaz]

An auction event is one where you have either spend g3+ uncommons or run rare and epic armadas. The only ways to get enough mats is wait a couple months or throw money at the game. Rare and epic armadas require running 100 uncommon ones or opening 20-30 daily chests where the currency to open them is...armadas. so again, spend or be in an alliance that spends. Even better only 1 winner actually gets the character or the iss Jellyfish. Everyone else is up the creek.

[sacred mortar]

Yea, so ppl can cheat by killing each other running Leslie. No way 😂

[rugged heron]

@wanton copper

Slb auctions are fine... but for god's sake can you put a sms along with it, so everyone can earn something... especially when it comes to Harrison shards... some of us have been playing EVERYDAY EVERY EVENT ALL TO COMPLETION for 3 years,. but because some of us are free to play and cant compete on a regular basis in Harrison auctions... and you cant get him anywhere else... WE STILL have yet to unlock him, a rare officer thats been out for 3 years... thats unacceptable... i can see not having him maxxed... but not to have him at all yet???? This needs fixed. And to run another auction for him, just is tone deaf, and really rubbing it in the face of the people who love the game, but dont or cant spend money on it.

[sacred mortar]

Domination is the way to go

[boreal grove]

No to domination. Unless there's a way of burning officer exp without upgrading officers.

[vagrant topaz]

Different servers, different issues. Our pirates are mostly dead, only a handful of ineffectual blowhards.

[green cave]

@wanton copper honestly I am sick of auction events. Money grabs is too much, events should be for everyone to be able to play. Maybe doing a dual alliance event for same rewards per player to make alliance events really worth fighting for.

[dapper marlin]

@wanton copper we are all running out of materials to spend. No more material spend..even the ultra recruit tokens....we need a different mechanic. A grindable event would be fair on everyone i think.

[true falcon]

@wanton copper
The time between arcs us when people relax in the game and collect resources to be prepared for the onslaught of spend resource events you run during an arc.
We've just had an additional auction, and you want to run another?

Read the room fella, read the room.

Running all these events that only whales can compete in is one of the major driving forces for light spenders and f2p to quit the game.

Pretty soon all you have left is a handful of whales trying find a reason to keep playing.

[deft inlet]

Alb.

[sacred mortar]

Domination is the fairest for f2p

[solid imp]

You do realize Georgiou is in the transporter patterns? You can get her shards any time of day? There is no better sourcing for epics in the game

[sacred mortar]

I say Harrison-only SLB, give more shards, and do domination.

Give good amount of shards in lower ranks

So everyone can have 10 shards or so

[blissful patrol]

Just throwing out a name, and pointing out how unused Burnham is

[vagrant topaz]

Auctions really need to all go on hold for a month. Domination included. It's been way too much lately.

[lament moth]

yes to harrison!

[sacred mortar]

Haven't had a domination auction in ages

[lofty python]

@wanton copper no auction please. also change those two officers. Picard, Jaylah would make people more interested

[sacred mortar]

If they wanna give us Harrison shards.... then why not. U prefer to keep them in the store for cash only?

[odd osprey]

@wanton copper Going to say Pass on the auction event. We just an auction this week for Tendi, and we know there will be auctions coming in the Arc that starts next week. Plus given how this weekend's events went I dont know that you guys deserve our resources right now.

[vagrant topaz]

Just near weekly auctions that use one or another aspect of domination

[vivid mason]

@wanton copper I'm fine with the auction, but IMHO it needs to come with an SMS. Also, not mat/directive spending as we just came out of one.

[rugged heron]

As a free to play, i would like to knownhow domination is fair to f2p. I have yet to find a comp that is close to being fair besides a grind hostiles only. As i dont remember what domination event is... can you elaborate., PM is fine as not to clog the channel

[pallid pasture]

@wanton copper some time back scopley put out that they were not going to overload us on events that take up too much time. To date history shows they have forgotten this and it is a lie to pretend otherwise. Stop overloading events.

The last couple of weeks have hd auctions so what is the point of this other than to force people to spend that other wise have zero chance to get harrison? Do you want to continue to burn players out and have them quit? Because scopley sure is doing a fine job of that with this type of events back to back and keeping officers out of the hands of those who cant spend thousands of dollars to win an auction as in the case of my server.

I think you guys have lost a real touch of player base.

Do a SMS, or an alliance event for it, that way players are encouraged to spend time in game and play. Otherwise you are shooting yourself in the foot with those who do buy stuff, just dont have $3k to drop on a 3 shard reward.

[sacred mortar]

For 5k lat and some spare g3? Haven't participated on those for a year and a half

[wanton copper]

Totally understand appreciate the feedback

[placid bolt]

@wanton copper So to make up for the absolute failure fror Scopley to communicate, you want to throw in an auction which is nothing more than a pay to play?

[still olive]

Do a Harrison event with a SMS tied to it with decent payout! ive been playing since the start of the 1st borg arc and still am 10 shards short of him... Only officer I dont have, besides Tal. Im not paying 50$ for the last 10 shards...

[real vigil]

No auction @wanton copper, we just had one. Give people a chance to save up, or is the goal just to push pack sales?

[wanton copper]

You're right we don't want to overload anyone, and sometimes we get caught up in wanted to make sure there is always something exciting to do

[wanton copper]

So we talked about this a bit in Galaxy and event chat

I'm going on majority rule for it, and many people have expressed wanting the auction

BUT

To give everyone something to do, we're also going to run a bonus refinery event at the same time

[vestal hornet]

I am tired of unwinnable sms events, slb, alb and anything that doesn't help f2p. I am in a small alliance and rarely win anything no matter how long I play the game.

[wanton copper]

So that if Commanders don't want to partake, there is something for them still to take advantage of

[alpine topaz]

Exciting, sure. Alliance based quest? Solve the puzzles, but more than mine 10 dil to get the key.

[sacred mortar]

Lower ops players can level up their turrets for almost no cost and get as much power as the ones at higher ops, which cost a lot in resources. Officer exp is not easily bought, and u get a lot more in f2p than u wld get buying 2-3 packs a month. Ship exp is very cheap to use lat with, and while whales have a lot more lat, they also have most ships upgraded already, whereas we have franky A and feesha that probably every f2p player still hasn't maxed in level.

And research is the same as turrets

[lament canopy]

@wanton copper make the auction JLP please

[raw berry]

@Eco how about a simultaneous sms if players dont want the slb

[sacred mortar]

No more picard. They did one already with 350 shards lol

Gimme Harrison only

[boreal grove]

@wanton copper How about running the tribble event again. And leave it up to the RNGesus for Harrison shards? Fair to all.

[weary furnace]

@wanton copper Auction events are just bad, because they always only reward the heavy spenders. It's literally impossible to get anywhere on my server, unless I am willing to spend a 1,000€ and up. Just no, thank you. The game is money-infusion dependent enough. Events shouldn't force you to do even more.

[terse idol]

@wanton copper if it's an auction please go domination

[mellow cobalt]

Please give news on the bad spend event for which no point correction was given, nor was there any compensation for the slb starting after the sms

[sacred mortar]

I've been saving up resources for the right auctions and won plenty, and I only buy battlepasses.

[pallid pasture]

I want Harrison. To date I have not unlocked him as the sourcing has been one I cant plan on, been playing since Nov 20. The fire sales usually happen when I cant afford $50 for him due to rising costs of gas and real life.

Then we get into things like disco pvp (which I loved and took 1st out of shear determination) but Harrison crews beat me everytime. Aggravating when you cant get the same officer others can spend on. Dont get me wrong, I buy Battle passes and packs when I can. Just do not have thousands to spend every week on a game like this.

[true falcon]

You realise it's the same people that win every slb auction, everytime. At higher levels you literally have no chance because you're lumped in with the big whales.

They become an utter waste of time, and just increase the gap more.

[golden kraken]

@wanton copper bonus refinery doesn't give everyone something to do. Assuming you even have large amounts of raw material stocked, you just press some buttons every 10 hours and log out. Run an sms event for guaranteed Harrison shards if you want something everyone will do

[sacred mortar]

If u are at higher levels, you also spent.

The auction brackets are ok imo

[vagrant topaz]

You are confidently incorrect

[maiden bear]

Yes bonus refinery....
But no to auction. Way too close. Put on something else like a 1d COW or a Cerritos bonus event

[true falcon]

Nope, just played the game a long time

[boreal grove]

At ops 28, I'm against up to 49 in certain brackets. Is that okay?

[sacred mortar]

Not on officer auctions tho

On recruit SLBs maybe, but these are not the auctions we are talking about

[sacred mortar]

Oh yea? What ops are u?

[pallid pasture]

That is because they taylor to the whales. I know two on my server that have spent over 50k each. They are in special discords and they tend to get what they want. Even so much as one got mad and had his account temporarily off the server so no one could take his rss. Then came back later.

[vagrant topaz]

39

[sacred mortar]

You are not ops 50+ by playing a long time

[pliant grail]

I do not want an auction or spend event for Harrison/Burnham. If anything, do a kill event for them and give out a full unlock of Harrison or have unlock in shards.

Your economy is broken badly. The last spend event you wanted me to spend 9800 uncommons. I did not even get that many in every event with the battlepass and even the elite track. But you wanted me to spend it for becket and not even a full unlock. I do not have a jelly but you are expecting me to have the resources as though I have a jelly, that is jacked up.

Auction events only go to the money spenders and if that is the case, just sell Harrison again and save the ftp and low end spenders the time and waste of resources that we don't have.

The game has been so bad and buggy lately, you should be dumping a ton of resources, speed ups and officers on us just to keep us playing. Game attendance has been way way down the last couple days because the game is so bad. An auction event will not help/save you.

[sacred mortar]

how old is the server?

[turbid viper]

@wanton copper Harrison auction would be great! But the general remark that in higher ops levels, it’s for whales only is generally truly. Only very patient f2p players can stand a chance to win some shards. @warped sierra suggested a kobyashi Maru style sms, where people can get shards for spending a fixed amount. That’d be awesome!

[sacred mortar]

That's the sms

[turbid viper]

It’s different. Liste to the podcast.

[mellow cobalt]

Don't start any auctions before previous screwed up one's are fixed completely

[true falcon]

I didn't say I was 50+ I'm mid 40s, which is considered high level.

[neon pasture]

@wanton copper I would scrap the option of auctions. It not so much rewards big spenders as it does punish those who don’t. Perhaps consider adding in a teaser into next months battle pass instead? If you remember episodes of TNG where they had that 3 minute episode preview before the main credits? Think of it as something like that. That little extra that teases the player into Junes main content. Offer events that F2P can achieve through consistent play, but that Pay2Play can accomplish but faster by spending money.

[buoyant bison]

@wanton copper o Change it and PLEASE these officers have been out for some time. Give us other ways to source these and other officers

[sacred mortar]

I'm ops 44, still caught up with some whales at 45. But I spent some. But my spend is closer to the 45s than it is to the 41s, so it makes sense I'm there. And I won a few auctions over these couple years.

[vagrant scaffold]

@wanton copper any non-pack sourcing of harrison is a good thing, but running auctions in between arcs isn't cricket - it's just giving shards to people who'd buy them anyway.

An SMS on the other hand...

[turbid viper]

The basic idea is that such an event runs for weeks rather than days, so that players can have constant progression.

[late gale]

I'm a free player and I would like an auction. I'd rather have a chance to win than no chance at all. But yes, a paired SMS, even if challenging, would be great

[zealous sphinx]

@wanton copper Maybe a domination style auction, since we haven't seen that SLB mechanic in some time.

[sacred mortar]

I see the progression part, but it also cuts down in competition. And if they have to give shards to everyone, they'll all get less.

[true falcon]

And how do you fair in the auctions against the 49s? Not well I'm betting.

[pliant grail]

@eco if you are going to run a bonus refinery event, you need to make an announcement so players can start to stock pile rss now

[snow sapphire]

Please run anything but an auction. I like this game but 2022 has been kinda rough lag is super bad, events not scoring correctly, when I switch systems it takes to long to load the next system. How about taking a month of from arcs to stabilize the game.

[sacred mortar]

Bracket for 44 is 43-45

[true falcon]

No it isnt

[sacred mortar]

U guys even know the brackets before saying they are bad?

[vagrant scaffold]

people should stockpile anyway! 🤣

[sacred mortar]

For officer auctions, they are

There's not a single player above 45 in my tendi auction

[true falcon]

No it isn't, the tendi we just had covered all 40s

[sacred mortar]

Then maybe the auctions are different between servers? Mine was 43-45

[pliant grail]

@eco why not do a tal/Harrison event unlock for them. The two officers people want the most but can't get because there is no sourcing. After the major bugs and errors, this would go a long ways to restoring happiness to the player base.

[sacred mortar]

Again with Tal. He's broken. They can't activate him.

His officer ability needs to be reworked before releasing him again

[turbid viper]

STFC Database -

https://stfc.space/events/62939fc70c0f29c73c944678

[turbid viper]

@sacred mortar is right regarding the bracket.

[sacred mortar]

Thank you

[turbid viper]

I disagree regarding less shards though 🙂

Better few shards for everyone than a ton for single players.

[sacred mortar]

Regarding less shards?

[last tiger]

@wanton copper make it Kraken level spending event!!!!

[autumn wadi]

What is an auction event? 🤔

[sacred mortar]

Maybe. Depends on the amount. But if u split the ones they give for top50 on all players, they'll maybe get 5 more each, and it'll kill the competition for it.

[turbid viper]

So you are for auctions now?

[indigo oracle]

I d love to beat poxolo again

[boreal grove]

Sounds easier to just offer maxed Harrisons for $10000 packs?

[turbid viper]

Im f2p in ops38 and a few shards off Harrison t2. Auctions help me, $$$ store not.

[deep halo]

Another auction after an arc withouth mats as rewards. Greeeeeedy Scopely

[naive shell]

@wanton copper if it is not a spend auction, the Harrison event sounds good. Pvp slb, maybe another realta one would be cool.

[boreal grove]

PvP SLBS = organise with friends that has leslie - No thanks.

[silent zinc]

@wanton copper yes to the bonus refinery. No to officer auction. Offer Harrison and Jaylah shards in a way that's reasonable for everyone to obtain.

[wispy dove]

An auction event with sms too sounds good to me. ESP as few shards off unlocking Harrison.

[indigo oracle]

@wanton copper officer Recruiting spend Auktion (all Kind of Recruiting like daily event) but not mats

[idle ice]

‐----------
40 and up gets G3 uncommon ships 30-39 gets to use G3 umcommon ships
20 and up can use whatever they can muster
Free for all for points give everyone a chance to win

[boreal grove]

Why not do an active mining event? Mycellium / Raw Lat (Not ConLat) / Data.

Tribble mining!

[late gale]

No to grindy events, whether active mining or hostile killing. We had too much grinding already, people are so burned out they are leaving the game. We need a break before the next arc starts

[boreal grove]

Would you prefer a gift chest of Harrison instead? No effort for lazy people.

[idle ice]

@boreal grove
You are not allowed to talk anymore LOL

[late gale]

I would prefer an auction. Even though I'm a free player. It has nothing to do with being lazy, I placed at the top of many grinding leaderboards. It's about alternating intensive, grinding events with more relaxed ones to give players a chance to recharge their energies.

[fathom stirrup]

id rather a 5 of 11 auction tbh

lol

[prisma gulch]

@wanton copper while the auction events are appreciated from a sourcing perspective, advanced notice would be greatly appreciated. I just spent most of my materials on the Tendi auction with the impression that I’d have at least a couple weeks to accumulate more materials. With no BP to help with materials and coming off two consecutive weekends with spend events, I’ll have nothing to spend but regular resources and whatever the Refinery RNG gods bless me with.

An SMS or a grinders SLB would be much better, imo. Harrison is still practically impossible for f2p to source and a realistic f2p path should exist. At least with the BP auctions I can plan my spend throughout the month. This is too much spend in too short of time.

I’ll also say that I’ve bought my way to a t3 Harrison over the past year, but at $200 for t4, I’m not spending anymore on him. I’ll either wait for better sourcing opportunities or he’ll stay where he is forever.

I’ve enjoyed the latest events so far, but spend events feel like they’re coming too frequently and scoring high enough to make meaningful progress is becoming more difficult. Breaking the bank for a few shards just isn’t worth it.

I’ll end by saying I really appreciate the approach you’ve taken and how proactive and transparent you’ve been with the community. Keep up the good work! LLAP 🖖

[ember dagger]

@wanton copper perhaps a power auction?

[merry finch]

@wanton copper what feedback did you saying yes to auctions? Lol

[trim dune]

How about a poll? @wanton copper

[wicked fern]

@wanton copper I’m seeing a HUGE bombed of people asking “no”, and yet they’re still pressing with it? Glad to see they want to listen. Can we have an over/under on your quit date due to frustration?

[true falcon]

Probably from the whales that haven't quite maxed him yet.

[high aurora]

@wanton copper We just had an auction a few days ago, and a week before that. I am assuming we have another one coming up in another week or so. In my opinion we already have too many auctions with the level of uncommon and rare sourcing currently in the game.

[earnest harness]

Eco is chatting in #🏆-event-chat just an fyi.

[midnight monolith]

@eco WE DON'T WANT THE AUCTION YOU WANT THAT TO MAKE US SPEND MONEY.
what's the point asking then ignoring

[honest flax]

@wanton copper no auction. We just got done with one a day ago and had one just before that.

[fading venture]

@wanton copper listen to what we said, NO auction, it's not that to read jesus.

[uncut radish]

I guess the question really is: is it a heroic auction?

[coral creek]

@wanton copper we just had an auction for Tendi. I don't like having another auction so soon, especially between arcs. It could be assumed most players are running short on materials. I know many people value Harrison, so it would be nice if there was a different scoring mechanic that doesn't include spending materials.

[steady veldt]

I appreciate a bonus refinery but we dont need another auction literally days after one

who thought this was a good idea

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper lat refinery boost / lat auction

[abstract pier]

@wanton copper would prefer burnham should be switched with an officer that’s harder to source like TOS Kirk or Picard etc. we can get burnham shards through disco packs or ATAs. Would be nice to see something different.

[halcyon walrus]

also burnham sucks no?

[blissful patrol]

@wanton copper going to interrupt this by saying thank you for having these types of forums and engaging with us to make us feel heard. Keep up the good work!

[potent depot]

So auction between arcs with no idea what's coming next month after being short on rss the past month...

[stray herald]

@wanton copper You are starting to build goodwill with the community, but then announce going ahead with an auction the overwhelming majority are against. I just don’t get it. You should be looking at player drop off metrics and this wouldn’t even be asked.

[static spruce]

Harrison auction. Yes please.

[thin bear]

Stop having auctions for officers that are so old.

Put them in normal methods of sourcing, including the pattern store.

Having a auction for officers that are 20 months and three+ years old is insulting to players.

[lyric leaf]

@wanton copper #feedback on events that relate to armadas… will solo players and single player alliances ever be able to host more than 1 ship during an armada? This would save them from burning 🔥 through so many directives + some would actually compete in some of those events, instead of just skipping them. Just putting that out there. Joint alliance armadas would be nice too

[hearty arch]

@wanton copper how about always pairing an SMS with an auction. This would help those that cannot compete in auctions.

[naive parrot]

@wanton copper No to the spending.
There have been to many of these events in the last months and not enough resources coming back in.
We f2p players just don't get those kind of resources to compete anymore without trying for every other one and dropping the others and even then the chances of success are low.
The requirements on resources for the boards have turned absolutely crazy since the 5* came into play. 3* and 4* being rated the same for players who have yet to get a way to get 4* without scrapping ships is just making it seem even harder and useless to even try.
On the other hand there really should be a way to source Harrison easier by now. He is no new officer anymore.

[marsh plinth]

Nothing exciting about an event that most of us will miss out on. There needs to be equivalent rewards for actual ftp grind events too. I just grinded for 3 days solid, my entire weekend, to take 4th place for only 2 Rutherford shards. I might be more alright if the auction events vs grind events were more evenly weighted. But the difference in rewards for a spend vs grind event are ridiculous.

[mighty star]

@wanton copper If we increase the rate of auctions then that means that people maybe spend less per auction. (But that is a guess, that might be wrong.) And this leads to people having to ask themselves how much they want the reward. So if this does not lead to more money spending, then having more auctions might be a good thing

[scarlet raven]

@wanton copper

1.make SMS event completable .

2.I would appreciate when officer auctions turned to a infinity meta like the doomsday meta which we had last arc ,and everyone could been paid for the amount of mats which he/she spends.

3.xslb is just a big example for that👆 100% Winn or nothing mentally. And it increases only the less of enjoyment of the mass

[keen dawn]

OFFICER AUCTIONS SUCK

[mighty star]

XSLB, I agree. As long as we cant travel/relocate to other servers, XSLBs should not replace the SLBs

[idle ice]

To late peeps. The decision has been made

[keen dawn]

Figures.

Auctions & leaderboards are the WORST events.

[wanton copper]

Just to make sure we're on the same page, there was a lot of people for the auction when I first stared talking about this, and wanted to move quickly to make sure items for the events could be put into motion

[signal ether]

The serious disconnect between scopely and the players seems to continue

[wanton copper]

I saw a lot of positive feedback about running the event along side a bonus refinery event, as this way it provides something for everyone

[jade marsh]

@wanton copper auctions are pointless for players that aren't whales and dolphins, especially as most auctions are resource/directives spend event and we literally just had a spend SMS event(which are personally the only spend events I participate in and this time I couldn't even make it past the 2nd tier). Spend events suck because it ends up always being a choice between resources you are trying to save for a ship upgrade, building, research and now we have to decide if this officer is more important. Plus I personally like to complete all the events and get really frustrated when they aren't completable especially when the event is part of a larger events and feeling forced to go buy a pack. It would be better to have an SMS event that pay out officer shards or events that tie into a mini officer event store.

[wanton copper]

I appreciate all the feedback so I can know for the future!

[keen dawn]

Yeah, so it can be properly ignored

[wanton copper]

There are always multiple ways of feeling about events and aspects of the game. I know how much everyone cares about STFC and everyone also has different values associated with events in-game. The idea was to not remove an event that others were looking forward to, while also providing something to the rest of the community that may not want the auction

[vagrant topaz]

We're all starved of unc and rare materials after those auctions mate

[wanton copper]

Totally understand, and many Commanders have spoken to me about how many auctions have been run recently and is something I'm going to ask the team about

[vagrant topaz]

Only gonna lead to more people being out of pocket because of buying packs or the whales buying them all to fuel more events no one can afford

[stark dew]

Officer based auction might be good

[keen dawn]

Feed the whales, the rest of us starve.

[vagrant topaz]

To compete in because they lack the resources as the same event has been run on many occasions the past weeks

[rugged delta]

Re: Burnham/Harrison float:
Y’all need to stop calling them “auction events”. In a real auction, nothing is spent if nothing is won.

[raven vault]

@wanton copper
Auction Events, although not well received by most, are acceptable OCCASIONALLY. Please keep in mind that we just had some in the Anthology Arc and there was one this past weekend, so at the moment our materials are very low. Furthermore, I'm absolutely positive that there will be at least one Auction Event in the forthcoming Arc too, so now is NOT a good time for another Auction Event.
PLEASE DO NOT GIVE US ANOTHER AUCTION EVENT BETWEEN THESE ARCS!
Thanks for taking the time to listen to our feedback. And try to get Scopely to invest in better Quality Control. The Memorial Weekend Events WOULD'VE been great if Scopely had cared enough about the quality of the launches this past weekend.

[wanton copper]

Appreciate the thoughts and feedback!

[wanton copper]

What would you want to have them called instead?

[keen dawn]

Scrapped

[signal ether]

Spend first, see if you win later (like a scratch off)

[high aurora]

Replace the auctions with infinite SMS events

[halcyon walrus]

recruit event?

[wanton copper]

I feel like many Commanders really liked the infinite SMS event

[rugged delta]

Spending contests

[raven vault]

Officer Sales Events.

[high aurora]

100% you can whale out and get guarenteed ROI on materials. Would likely lead to folks spending a bit to get that next milestone on the horizon. Win win

[wanton copper]

Something I'm going to speak to the team about. I think it's a lot harder to make a full switch to a new event like this in a short amount of time

But it for sure something I can let the team know Commanders would like to see more of

[idle ice]

Bail while you can @eco the people will never stop complaing hahaha.
I get leader boards--- necessary
But being able to win against a whale every now and again would be nice

[wanton copper]

People are allowed to yell at me all they want. It's what I'm here for

And thanks for the feedback Jon

[raven vault]

Wrong number of "Ks" for the US.

[wraith marlin]

As a change of event topic, are our people going to get the chance at acquiring the Stella skin this Apex? It's been awhile since the last...

[raven vault]

Credit Card Killer Events. 🤣😂🤣

[wanton copper]

More than happy to ask!

[high aurora]

Well, you're not a punching bag, you're a conduit. At least I hope you're at least a fluffy conduit more then a punching bag

[wanton copper]

Hahaha

I'm whatever you all need

[idle ice]

Don't say that Hahaha

[wanton copper]

The SLB running tomorrow will have it!

[idle ice]

Some of us have some weird needs...

[turbid viper]

@wanton copper when is the auction happening?

[wanton copper]

No idea what you're talking about

First day on the internet

Smile

[vagrant topaz]

Eco can i ask that if these auction events are being held before the arc, why? It just seems absurd that after a month long arc with an auction or 2 with people putting time and effort (especially ftp players) into completing these events that another one is perhaps coming out. Are scopely really desperate for money after the pandemic? I understand that due to the Pandemic scopely has been somewhat impacted by the rise in energy prices etc but to release these events knowing that it is a trap for people without jobs to pay ridiculous prices leaving them out of pocket and potentially in debt is disgraceful

[random dagger]

@wanton copper I'd still like a way to get the avatar from the AMS

[idle ice]

Dude just dont spend on it then

[wanton copper]

So I don't have all the answers, but it's something I am going to talk to the team about. I know there is a lot of concern about the frequency of these events and I really do appreciate the feedback. Again my idea was to provide options to those who may want the event, and also don't want the event

I totally understand your concerns about having them too often without time to get back the resources

And something I'm going to ask about for everyone

[wraith marlin]

Thanks for finding out!

[wanton copper]

I'm always happy to hear our constructive feedback and serious concerns

[random dagger]

Dude, the game can't provide self control to people who lack it

[high aurora]

I personally won't be participating in an auction because I know there's likely going to be one coming up that holds greater value...and I'm also resource broke..

[wanton copper]

Everyone has different opinions which is great

It's important to understand all sides of things and I try and stay as objective as possible

The idea with the auction/bonus refinery event wasn't to ignore one side or the other but to come to a place where everyone would have something

[high aurora]

Ops 41 trying to get past the ops 42 4 star uncommon ore wall

[steady veldt]

Could you also talk with the team about the rouge alliance event? At the current state not even alliances at capacity can complete the event unless their members make 400+ points in 2 days.

[wanton copper]

Like they say in Lower Decks, it's not a compromise unless both sides are unhappy

[turbid viper]

@wanton copper do you know if the defense platform power issue/change will be reverted? Defense platforms used to give tons of power increase, until a few months ago when it suddenly changed without any notice. It’s kinda important for domination style auctions to know if this will get reverted or not.

[wanton copper]

More than happy to

[wanton copper]

Second time today I'm hearing about this and I don't have the answers yet. I'm going to follow up this week and see if I can get some more info

If I hear anything back I'll be sure to let everyone know

[rugged delta]

And with your fine refineries it only takes forever to get back the materials. 😉

[soft fox]

@wanton copper I'm supportive of burnham/harrison auctions, if humanly possible, try to keep the auction bracket ranges in mind and as narrow as possible for more equitable playing field. An ops 40 cannot compete with an ops44, just like an ops 44 can't compete with an ops 46 - the materials spend levels are wildly different. Thanks for the chance to feedback

[wanton copper]

Brackets is also something I've heard quite a few times and also going to speak with the team about

[late gale]

I kind of prefer the way it is now - all buildings give comparable power increases. As long as milestons in power events account for it, it's fair for all

[soft fox]

Hopefully paired SMS with auction as per usual ? @wanton copper

[keen dawn]

“The idea with the auction/bonus refinery event wasn't to ignore one side or the other but to come to a place where everyone would have something”

Unless those who can’t participate in the “auction” get the same reward, it’s not equivalent

[soft fox]

Wait... Is it a power auction or materials spend auction? Power auctions get crazy due to officer and ship xp

[wanton copper]

Sure does, just confirmed

[raven vault]

How about Scopely just improving the refinery output? THAT would go a long way toward getting more players to participate in "Auctions".

SCOPELY, please improve refinery and generator outputs. They are seriously behind the times.

[wanton copper]

This is ALSO something I've heard a few times and going to be bringing up

[open token]

Whatever events you decide to do..firstly, will.they work?

[wanton copper]

I'm going to be talking a lot in my next meeting lol

[agile thicket]

@wanton copper Could you please update the event calendar? Thank you

[wanton copper]

Let me try and do that CommanderPaul

[vagrant topaz]

I haven't spent a penny on the game, all ftp. But i just hate seeing the fact that after all the money people are putting into this game that the game keeps getting worse and worse. There we had the coords bug, events tab bug, etc it just gets worse after every maintenance

[open token]

Nice see more borg options for auction tbh

No borg arc since i started this game over two years ago

[vagrant topaz]

You get more from 1 batch than 2 it's so annoying but hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

[raven vault]

And he's not giving a compliment when he says "fine". 🤣😂🤣
I'm sure his use of the word "fine" refers to the size of the output. 🤔

[wanton copper]

Sorry didn't tag anyone about this. The refinery is a topic I've seen multiple times

Also something I'm going to ask about

Again can't promise anything, but do you have thoughts on how to change the refinery?

[soft fox]

@wanton copper , I'm case you didn't know already... People will value Harrison >> burnham. But burnham is epic, and harrison is rare... It will really be viewed as a harrison auction. Burnham is great at high tiers while harrison good out of box.

[gritty stag]

any idea when Transporter patterns are going to useful again I have close to 5 million of them and nothing to spend them on

[raven vault]

Maybe that's because YOU haven't bothered to waste YOUR paycheck on the game. Have you ever thought about how this might be YOUR fault? 🤣😂🤣

Just kidding. Couldn't help myself! 🤣😂🤣

[uncut radish]

My idea for the refinery, besides the obvious "Increase it all" is to have a minimum UC and rare payout per pull. It would take a lot of the sting out of it. Spending 75,000 G3 and getting all common materials is really frustrating. The minimum could be low but at least it would take all the RNG out and allow for some actual strategic planning.

[pine halo]

If you refine greater amounts of raw, you should consistently get greater amounts of uncommon / rare / epic mats in return.

That is not currently the case in my experience

[vagrant topaz]

Make it so we get more from batch 2 than 1

[soft fox]

@wanton copper bonus refinery to us means g3/g4 historically. Any thought to bonus other elements of the refinery button like borg tech, territory refinery, amalgam, support refinery, ship parts, etc.

[vagrant topaz]

🤣🤣🤣

[raven vault]

Actually, I've started doing smaller batches because of that. It is ridiculous and hilarious at the same time. 🤣😂🤣

[jovial roost]

is the Cerritos event push 1 day as well?

[wanton copper]

Appreciate all the thoughts on the Refinery, going to mark them down so I can bring them up internally!

[soft fox]

Perhaps reduce the exponential cost escalation for higher pulls. Later refineries have been more linear. You could then add more pulls as an option to improve output.

[rugged delta]

Excellent. You talk, they listen. 😎

[jovial roost]

Would be nice to be able to convert g2 to g3, and g3 to g4 in the refinery

[raven vault]

Add a guaranteed minimum plus the RNG, for starters, and see if people like that better.
Also reducing the imput costs, while keeping the output RNG the same or slightly better, would be another way to improve it.

Another possibility so that it's not a complete giveaway from Scopely would be Refinery Efficiency Researchs to reduce imput and improve output.

[vagrant topaz]

I think the random nature of the refinery is the worst bit. To do a max pull and get no uncommon does not feel very good

[glad cosmos]

John Harrison event sounds good

[wanton copper]

Appreciate the thoughts @raven vault and @jovial roost

[soft fox]

Like a reprocessing / recycling refinery ;)

[wanton copper]

Appreciate all the ideas. This is great to understand

It's great to have all the different options and ideas so we can talk about it together

[edgy elk]

I am not opposed to an auction as long as it isn't materials/directives spending. That's been overdone lately. Also, Harrison is good and worth acquiring. Burnham is not.

[wanton copper]

Also you're all smarter than me....

[dapper path]

@wanton copper , Harrison event please, 200%

As that officer is in the game for ~3 years already or so, and it’s really really reaaaaally hard to get shards for him; (oppsed to a Burnham, with can be grabbed at any given moment with tokens)

[silent zinc]

@wanton copper one other thing I personally would like to see is faction scouts being guaranteed drops like the ferengi traders. Really frustrating to get several in a row that don't drop anything.

[idle ice]

Common should just be taken out of the refinery and added to the payout of doing dailies.

[soft fox]

burnham is not in TPs... But she is x12 on ATAs when the assignment shows up rng. Your point is still valid that she has been out for a year and still limited.

[silent zinc]

Now that is a great idea.

[idle ice]

They could lower the payout of uncommons and rares but at least we could be guaranteed some uncommons and rares

[soft fox]

Id love to send officers away to training/academy and come back promoted 1 tier higher ;)... ever wonder why highest officer level stops at "Commander V"? :)

[high aurora]

@wanton copper. I'd love it if there was a 4 star bonus refinery as well....

[wanton copper]

Something I can ask about for you

[wanton copper]

Adding it to my refinery list

[wanton copper]

Thanks for letting me know Gorizo

[paper jacinth]

With reference to g3 and g4 resources the pulls are way to low for those that have higher lvl ops and ships as you need both for upgrade. So would be good to raise the amounts so that its more sustainable for upgrades. Maybe make the pulls ops lvl based or dependant on the ships that you have ie epic ships need a lot to lvl up.

[wanton copper]

Ok so I have one or two other things to take care of right now

Maybe it would be cool to do some sort of survey about the Refinery in the future

Will have to speak about it internally first however

Again as I always say, I can't ever promise things

But I'll always ask

Well I can sometimes promise things

Like I promise I"m going to go drink a Coke Zero

[idle ice]

Pics or it never happened @wanton copper hahaha

[wanton copper]

But I never want to lie or promise things I can't keep

[high aurora]

Pepsi Zero is better

[wanton copper]

Retracted

[high aurora]

You're lucky you don't know what a good tasting drink is

[wanton copper]

LOL

I actually have never had a Pepsi Zero....

[soft fox]

Refinery hasn't scaled up with the economy.. put it in with other things like generators, daily payouts, etc.

Almost as good as the "vault of latinum pack"

[wanton copper]

So I take back my statement

Until I've had one

There, I retracted

[idle ice]

Coke>pepsi for sure

[high aurora]

Pepsi no sugar, Coke Zero, diet dr pepper, diet Pepsi, diet coke. in order of tastiness, according to me

[scarlet beacon]

@wanton copper what would you have instead of the Harrison/burnham auction?

[idle ice]

Booo Burnham by the way 🤣

[wanton copper]

I mean does it really matter what I want? Haha

[idle ice]

Yes?

(Please yes)

[wanton copper]

WRONG

[idle ice]

Hahahaha

[wanton copper]

We don't care about Eco's thoughts or feelings

[scarlet beacon]

What would you run instead

[wanton copper]

I think it's an impossible question to answer

Again everyone have different values on the officers they care about

[idle ice]

Yeah don't answer that

[wanton copper]

I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to it

[wanton copper]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-hmm-scratching-gif-17930020

[idle ice]

Hahahahaha

[wanton copper]

That is me responding to every Discord message I get

[idle ice]

TRUTH

[high aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/community-chaos-chaotic-fire-gif-17636558 Eco on the floor, CC's at the door

[turbid cipher]

He was going to say M’benga

[wanton copper]

Oh it wasn't THAT bad

[soft fox]

Eco, just add Harrison to Transporter patterns and you'll see how much people have been waiting 3+ yrs for him. People will spend all their TPs. Since he's only been in auctions, I know several who are still only part way to unlock.

[wanton copper]

You mean Arkady

[dense scaffold]

Is the bonus refinery a 1 or 2 day event this time?

[wanton copper]

Still waiting on the final schedule, will post it as soon as I have it

[dense scaffold]

Thank you!

[idle ice]

Thanks for the fun @wanton copper

[soft fox]

Just turn off the refinery cooldown and 1 day will be fine ;). Ha

[wanton copper]

Sounds so easy GreenKnight 😛

[thorny turret]

I still say ‘death to auctions’.

[high aurora]

They've done it before..lol

[wanton copper]

Oh really?

Was I here?

[high aurora]

By accident

[wanton copper]

Oh.....

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-exiting-uncomfortable-leaving-now-gif-14492345

[soft fox]

Think how much easier execution would be with no cooldown ;). Gotta be worth something !

[wanton copper]

Haha happy to add**** it to the list GK (GreenKnight)

[thorny turret]

https://tenor.com/view/waaagh-warhammer40k-orks-charge-gif-14893692

[wanton copper]

What game is this?

[thorny turret]

Intro from DAWN OF WAR.

I am disappointed.

[wanton copper]

2004

I was still a console player

Didn't get into PC until later in Highschool

[thorny turret]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-heresy-blasphemy-gif-18901767

[wanton copper]

Obviously not STFC related

But are you looking forward to Dark Tide?

[thorny turret]

Mixed feelings. Co-op games like that suffer from Lag.
Glares at STFC servers every time you run an event that requires heavy activity

Ogryn-Buddy should be fun to play.

[high aurora]

I'm looking forward to that other multi-platform mmo launching in the next few days that shall not be named 😉

[thorny turret]

Ogryn-Buddy Likes fancy Hats.

[idle ice]

@wanton copper what time zone are you in?

[wanton copper]

PST

About to go home for the night

[thorny turret]

https://tenor.com/view/elite-dangerous-landing-station-thargoid-simulation-gif-17685489

I enjoy too many different games.

[wanton copper]

Anyone remember Wing Commander 2?

[gritty stag]

i am getting so tired of officer sourcing sucking, Events not working at event launch, and having to have them fixed. It is more screwed up then a soup sandwich.

[wanton copper]

I member

[thorny turret]

Was on a disc with Strike Commander.

Never destroyed K’ti’Thrik Mang.

https://tenor.com/view/sc-starcitizen-code-gaming-gif-14051355

STFC’s biggest issue is the amount of Credit Card you have to spend to achieve anything in most cases.

It is putting Star Citizen to shame with how much money it takes.

Your servers are normally more stable…
But there are days they are less stable.

The real question is if anyone remembers Overkill: The Six Planet Megablast?

[wanton copper]

New event schedule has been published in #⚡-mod-announcements

[idle ice]

Dude wing commander was life

[jovial roost]

So no Cerritos event this week?

[flat nacelle]

@Eco. I feel you are doing a good job being at the helm. The auction should go as planned but change out Burnham for epic Data if he is working properly. Tal still needs to be fixed I presume as we are not getting officer shards for him?

Bug issues. Still getting ships popping up as the little triangles even if you zoom in. Still getting players not registering who they are or what alliance they are with, just a blue mark at times even after game reset/ update. Nodes still going from normal to just turning into a bright pink square in most systems. I am sure you and your crew have your hands full with a lot of issues. Lot of stuff going on.

I do have a question though. When could we see a Section 31 arc to get the USS Vengeance? Feel it is a ship that should become part of the game along with the Scimitar at some point.

[timber osprey]

@wanton copper another spend event just couple of days after we had one !?

[grim basin]

I'm all for Harrison Burhnam but u guy push the Amalgam and give us No way to source B'eter who is Major to that ship, Another Ultra recruit auction would be nice and why Hide Geordi, Data and Picard? Picard should be in Every Pack it takes 180 Shards uve been playing for mon5hs but refuse to pay $99 for 10 Shards. also Gowron, Martok 3/11 11/11 are all almost impossible. the pack that has those 2 Borg officers If not Borg or Decius is All Trans Patterns for me. Why are these officer next to impossible? I have been playing since Jan not F2P and Nota a whale, Maybe Dolphin @wanton copper

[jovial roost]

Once again, where is the Cerritos event?

[queen kindle]

The Cerri event isn't special, consider it a weekly staple like AP, TFB, or Lat rush

[jovial roost]

sure, but isn't suppose to be live today? like now?

[queen kindle]

No, it's on Wednesdays

[jovial roost]

it is Wednesday

hahaha

dammit, timezone

nevermind

[silent zinc]

Don't worry, it'll probably be 40 minutes late posting tomorrow anyway

[queen kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[silent zinc]

Add in the 10 minute delay for scoring and it'll be just another fantastic day in STFC. Lol

[jovial roost]

i saw much longer time sometimes

[silent zinc]

I will say that I'm very thankful to finally be able to get the ship and basically for free.

[round flare]

@wanton copper
Some feedback:
*I would like to see a recruit event or some sort of way to source Tal, from my understanding his flaws have been fixed so let’s get him.

• I would like to see better sourcing for the Vi’Dar skin, with how many Borg events it takes to source and how rare the event is, this skin is harder to get than an epic skin.
  *I feel like Scopely really missed an opportunity with the Memorial Day event. Memorial Day is a time to pay tribute to fallen soldiers. The event should have been a tribute to fallen offices in Star Trek, instead the Lower Decks was just repeated.
  *I would like to see an official event schedule for between BPs.

I say I in all of these because while I assume others feel the same way, I don’t know for sure.
Thanks

[stable ivy]

unless he has been fixed in the last 2 months, he's still broken

[silent zinc]

I will absolutely second the need for better sourcing for the Infinitus skin. Grinding probes is my least favorite thing to do in-game and having that would make it 1,000% better.

[stable ivy]

and i have had to report a player abusing him

[analog nexus]

@wanton copper

Hi Eco,

Appreciate the opportunity.

My preference is Harrison… perhaps, I’ve been playing the game for too long now however, when Harrison was first released it was only available to wallet warriors.

Following the initial launch, his shards were unavailable through any other means (with the exception of the extremely occasional in-store offer)

He was the officer I really, really wanted at around ops 30.

I’m ops 44 now, f2p and I still haven’t unlocked him.

I have no problem with the fact that this game is a commercial enterprise… but, let’s be honest… the game is not in its ascendency.

Event rewards have improved (no doubt about that) however, the relentless drip-feed of “new and exciting officers” continues with each arc….

But, let’s be honest, any officer “unlocked” in an arc, is pretty useless until the player pays to lvl up….

[round flare]

Well in that case fix him and stick him in the premium recruit chest.

[pallid pasture]

So again. Feed the whales screw everyone else. Man, exactly who are you listening to?

[sweet swift]

@wanton copper Any news on what type of auction the Harrison/Burnham will be? We just had a material spend...

[stiff meadow]

@wanton copper auctions every week! More shards the better! Heck yeah on Harrison! Burnham... whatever.

[harsh schooner]

Is the Harrison auction going to be a mat spend?

[sharp cave]

@eco Syndicate XP sms is impossible without cash shop. That is unacceptable.

[cunning gyro]

@wanton copper this 80 rouge rep feels like scoply laughing on us... Either increase it or remove it.... Cuz 80 doesn't make any sense...!

Given we need millions of rep.... It should be at least equal to or half the amount of rep we get from rouge credit chest... 80 is LOL

[halcyon walrus]

that is the only thing that can unlock your rogue faction, if not for some bug

[cunning gyro]

I've 9m rouge rep... This 80 is just LOL for everyone who have higer rouge rep... All I'm sayin it should be equal or half to one rouge credit chest pull.... Regarding unlocking rogue faction I think 80%+ players have it unlocked..

And I think one can buy it from shop

[halcyon walrus]

no you said remove it or increase it, all im saying removing it would be a disaster, but i can agree on increasing it

[cunning gyro]

😂 I might have forgot about new players tryin to unlock rouge... My bad 😅😅

But this definitely needs to change

It runs once a month if we are lucky just to give 80×4=240 rep?

Lol

[halcyon walrus]

could be worse, like 1 😄

[cunning gyro]

Don't give them ideas

[turbid viper]

Would be great if also the output of the generators could be improved so that it’s makes kinda sense having them 🙂

[twilit idol]

@eco syndicate XP sms needs another day. No way to complete it without bying a pack!

[soft fox]

I agree! Id like to find a sourcing for those klingon and amalgam crews (and others) just as well and timely as the ongoing lower deck officers / Wednesday event

[soft fox]

When it launched before, it was aided by the battlepass for that day that incuded syndicate. I believe these was also an sms/alb event that gave out some syndicate xp too. When run between arcs, people will come up short without spending or redeeming multiphasic s

[pastel fjord]

@wanton copper some good feedback here. I am hearing people want an opportunity to step though events that give us an opportunity to refine and build, not just spend. What happened to previous cycles, where we would mine, refine, gain power, then attack? We seem to be skipping some preparatory steps in recent auctions.

[cinder oak]

@wanton copper I am glad that you thought of introducing an event for sourcing Harrison. I don't understand however why the other choice is Burnham. Burnham is available through Discovery chests.

[calm roost]

I feel like we have had a bunch of auctions recently, it seems like Scopley’s way of getting $$$ but not fixing ALL the bugs

[zealous lake]

The memorial day event as designed (Lower Decks themed CoW, if you will) had a rough rollout but I like the bones. I think you should consider re-running this on occasion between arcs instead of or in addition to CoW

[oblique ridge]

Please no auction events outside battlepasses - there’s been way too many auction-style events lately as it is.

[frail onyx]

I have parked my rogue rep a couple of thousand below known associate. I do not want to be forced to level up!

[slender spear]

So,in the end this Auction event is just a slb, right? Again only something for the whales.

[fervent laurel]

Officer SLB = Auction, so yes.

If you didn't save up either a ton of materials or directives, you can't compete as a f2p

[slender spear]

Yep

I hope, there is a doable milestone

[fervent laurel]

According to #⚡-mod-announcements there are SMS

[slender spear]

That not requires to spend 1500 uncommon

[fervent laurel]

Good point 😅

[slender spear]

Oh, i didn't saw that, thanks

[teal turret]

@wanton copper Harrison event is welcome for my mostly f2p alliance, many don't have him yet and it shows during PvP events. Could he be slightly more accessible... That'd be even better, same folks win auctions over and over who don't need.

[vital egret]

I'm playing since 2020 , and still haven't him

Miss 8 shards or so

Mostly he was pay to win

100 bucks or so

[pallid cairn]

@wanton copper Props for actually calling it an "auction." That has always been the pejorative term players use to describe pay-to-win SLBs like this will probably be. It would be nice if more of the player base had a realistic chance to get him.

[sinful frost]

herison event is god idea. i will destroy my ships for herison shards, but this event can be better. its not fair when player at much higher level is in the same pool as lover level. harison and other similar event are pvp but 2 or 3 40+ level player go to sistem dont chase themself and kill lover level. it would be beter if pool i closed for same level. 32 agenst 32, 35 agenst 35 and so on.

[round flare]

auction (ˈɔːkʃən)
n

1. (Commerce) a public sale of goods or property, esp one in which prospective purchasers bid against each other until the highest price is reached. Compare Dutch auction
2. (Card Games) the competitive calls made in bridge and other games before play begins, undertaking to win a given number of tricks if a certain suit is trumps

[frail onyx]

@wanton copper love the chance for more Harrison shards but some players need protecting from themselves and there is going to be a lot of whining if you get everyone to spend all their mats outside of arc events 🤣

[round flare]

I win or rank high in plenty of SLB without spending money to do it.

[frail onyx]

Is very level dependent. Can win them below 35/36 f2p but impossible to save up enough at higher levels to regularly win them

[pallid cairn]

Yes, most of us know what an auction is. The point was that Scopley (or Eco, at least) is finally acknowledging that's what these high-value SLBs are publicly.

[round flare]

Apparently not because these events are not auctions.

[small narwhal]

They are auctions even if you don’t spend real money on them.

[round flare]

No we are using resources to level up ships, buildings, etc, and who spends the most wins a prize. We are not bidding and buying the prizes.

[small narwhal]

Of course we are, you are bidding against other players for a harrison unlock.

[round flare]

If it was an auction I would bid and if I loose I don’t loose anything. I am spending mats on other things and get rewarded if I spend more than others. Not an auction.

[small narwhal]

There are many kinds of auctions, including those where everyone pays in and only the winner gets anything.

[slender spear]

I really would like to know, how much someone will spend in the slb, while they can get harrison for 50 bucks

[round flare]

I posted the definition above, I’m not making anything up. Also I didn’t decide what the word means .

[slender spear]

Well, I'm happy for you then. Either you have no whales or your server is pretty dead

[round flare]

Or I pay attention to when events are happening, save and plan for them.

[small narwhal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-pay_auction

You’ll also note that all your definition says is “public sale of goods or property”

[round flare]

Ok still not what’s happening as we are getting stronger ships, buildings, or research for the mats spent.

[small narwhal]

There is nothing about how bidding is conducted or who pays etc

[round flare]

Again I didn’t invent the word

[small narwhal]

Yep, so the spend slb’s are auctions, cos you don’t get to decide that they’re not 😂

[round flare]

Nope, so the spend SLB are not auctions, because nothing is bing auctioned off.

[small narwhal]

Oh so now you invented the word?

[round flare]

Ok since you decided to put words in my mouth I’m done with this conversation.

[slender spear]

Still not possible for me on my server

[small narwhal]

Doing Stella research is what gives the initial rep to unlock the faction store these days. Getting rep via apex is actually a bad thing since it makes it cost more to get the Stella bps.

[subtle reef]

@wanton copper bonus refinery == 😍

[short ermine]

How about giving more mats in general so we can actually do all these spending SMS events nevermind try to compete in any SLBs, don't have 12k UC to spend 3 or 4 times a month at ops 43

[small narwhal]

You’ve been moving goalposts all along.. first it wasn’t an auction because you didn’t have to spend real money, then it wasn’t because we aren’t bidding, then because the losers pay too, then because the bidders get something for their bid even if they don’t win, and finally it’s not an auction just because you say nothing is being auctioned. I’m not putting words in your mouth, they’re your own words.

[wraith zephyr]

I'm so glad this channel is being used for its intended purpose, pedantry and bickering.

[granite haven]

@wanton copper add a bonus refinery to it then everyone can enjoy it and 3g/4g uc/rare are always needed as the basic refinery just gives **** outcome

[brittle wyvern]

@granite haven bonus refi wry is usually only g3 (unless you get a different/extra one lvl 40+)

[cunning gyro]

some research like efficiency are rep locked so u need to lvl it up

[subtle reef]

you get one at 41+ for G4

[twilit idol]

@wanton copper plz give to all 200 syndicate XP so we can complete the event! with the way you done it,there is no chance to complete it! only by paying a pack! One day more is missing!!😡

[queen kindle]

That'd only complete those who were fortunate enough to have enough daily claims of a certain size.

[earnest sand]

@wanton copper so no Apex Rogue scheduled? It's been a long time since we've seen Apex Outlaw in rotation and getting shorted on it. Not like there are other opportunities to get Stella refit shards.

[queen kindle]

Apex rogue is on there, running today as a one-day event

Though the Stella refit is the SLB event, running on day 2 & 3.

[opaque olive]

Power auction event with ship xp we haven't had that in a long time

@wanton copper

[hollow sundial]

Hmm, seems that the factor in the syndicate event is 10, not 5. So a single syndicate xp gets you 10 points, not 5 as in the description

[white bramble]

Yep 😬 it’s been like this a for a few runs

[floral sierra]

this would definitely be better than another mats spend auction.....

[nimble creek]

@wanton copper no auction. Do an event that loads us up with G3/4/5 uncommon and rare materials to prep us for the next arc.

[cunning gyro]

u simply can't win all auction without credit card...that's the way

i've been playin this long enough to know if scoply give something they will take 5x in retun

[smoky tusk]

Actually stella refit 1 day is amazing. 2 days slb is very time and focus consuming when you work

[cunning gyro]

are we sure refit LB will run?

[wide mountain]

No auction, please put Harrison in officer pack like the ultra recruit.

Getting Harrison shard is hard, either you need a creditcard to buy him or wait for events etc to make a full one.

Im a f2p player and still don’t have a full Harrison after 1,5 years.

Still need to collect 15 of 38 shards

[smoky tusk]

And no auction. You are sucking rss from f2p/BP only players way too fast 😓

[cunning gyro]

@wide mountain u just need to wait 2-3 month ..don't spend any uncommon .....then go all in on harrison, that's how i did it

[queen kindle]

Looks like the Stella refit event is still 2 days.

[cunning gyro]

@queen kindle can u talk about that 80 rouge rep plzzzzz......its annoyningly too lessss

[wide mountain]

I don’t get it, what do you mean.. sounds stupid but tell me

[queen kindle]

If you don't need the rep, then it was never intended for you

I've heard that some players unlocked a faction after earning the rep, so it's probably intended for newer players

[cunning gyro]

just login do daily and researches without uncommon and sleep...!

[cunning gyro]

but it never run every month end...so players have to wait on LORD SCOPLY MOOD to unlock a faction?

[wide mountain]

Then there must come a event to win Harrison shards, never saw one till a few weeks ago

[queen kindle]

The faction could be unlocked in other ways, it's just that the 80 was an additional way

[cunning gyro]

Every auction in my server easily reach 10m not matter what fraking huge whales....Harry run every 3/4 or 6 month i think ..lol scoply way..

[cunning gyro]

so either increase it or replace it with more rouge even trphy and add rouge rep in store 80 rep

those who need 80 rep can buy it like that

[queen kindle]

So retaining the same value to newer players and expanding it's use to vets? sounds reasonable. But there are players that do not want rogue faction. I don't see there being a balance to satiate both groups

[fresh frost]

You unlock the faction by doing the 'Stella Research' in the outlaw tree 🤷‍♂️

It's a hold over from the original runs of the event I believe

I'd rather it wasn't there 😂

[queen kindle]

But 80 is nothing! is it that harmful to you?

[fresh frost]

We'd have fewer people with issues of "But I got to scoundrel and now I can't do my stella BPs" because they took a year to get to that point, while finishing apex each month 😄

It's less now than it was, though

And it's 80 in this event, IIRC it's more throughout the 3 day events?

[queen kindle]

Think those people are making a mistake anyway. Sure it takes more codes, but you also get more research mats in a better exchange, and there are nodes that require higher faction.

[cunning gyro]

issue is i need more rep for outlaw research...80 doesn't help at all

all those good efficiency research in outlaw tree are rep locked

[queen kindle]

I'm in the same boat, trying to max my faction is taking awhile. I'd suggest you take your idea to the suggestion log channel and make a poll to see the community response

[cunning gyro]

let's see i never used that channel lol but what the hell let's goo there

[frail onyx]

Am I making a mistake keeping my rep below known associate then? Should I push on through? Have only done 20/150 researches or something so far.

[fervent laurel]

I am at known associate with 40/160 and can barely keep up

Might be a good idea

[covert zephyr]

Here to say no to the harrison auction. we have had too many spend events and pushing another when we haven't had a material event arc. 2 material spends in arc, 1 post arc, a 4th is too much. i really would like to get more Harrison shards but it's too soon

i may be more open to an ultra recruit style but for sure not a material spend

[fervent laurel]

We could also expect a domination slb

[covert zephyr]

didnt they do something weird with those? turret values down? i didnt pay alot of attention to the last one

[fervent laurel]

Station defenses so far are the only bugged building

[orchid anvil]

@wanton copper hello eco, short feedback from me on server 124 EU. My ally ppl and me are quite frustrated, we all waited for apex very long, our boss told us to save our eclipse directives and many of us hoped to get a few opus grande shards. I know you do your best but we as commodore have problems to motivate our ppl to engage in the events if we can’t reach the end goals. After the tendi event many ppl don’t want engaged any longer if any event disappoints in the end. Pls take care of the following events. We all deserve good events and fun time in the game and not more bitternesses through short, unplayable and frustrating events. Thank you 🙏

[white bramble]

The SLB for the Stella will still run

Check #⚡-mod-announcements

[orchid anvil]

Yes, I read that already, thx buddy. Although many of my colleagues aren’t here and as I wrote they’re quite angry and sad about the last time. I hope we as team got a chance in the ally event after all 😞

[white bramble]

Screenshot it and pass it on or link the channel to your server so you get notified there.

[flint vigil]

@wanton copper, thanks for soliciting feedback. Officer auctions are a bad idea. Won’t benefit lower level players who need those officers the most. How about adding those shards to the weekly and monthly rewards chest. This foray into the lower deck officers may be promoting the show but has adversely affected this game. The lower deck abilities are valuable but their antics are annoying. They act like frat and sorority pledges not military officers. Totally distracts from game and I’m just losing interest. Thanks.

[half flare]

@wanton copper I would love a Harrison auction (frankly don’t care about Burnham) if those who already had Harrison were excluded. Kind of like the Stella skin. I’m not interested in competing with whales trying to tier him. I’d vastly prefer a sure thing like another SMS where I could get 3 more shards.

[frail onyx]

Seems unlikely Scopely would exclude the players most likely to spend money from competing

[past mulch]

Keep the Harrison event. His shards are difficult to source

[half flare]

I didn’t say it was likely that Scopely would do it, lol. That’s why I asked hopefully more realistically for a SMS.

[elder fern]

Js, this Apex event AMS is really really hard. The most points my alliance could’ve scored in the first of only 2 event days is 3,300 pts. That doesn’t even get us halfway to the first milestone reward.

How are we supposed to complete it?

[fervent laurel]

First day gives the least points

You'll get more tomorrow