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Congrats! Multiple high level, high paying players are now ready to jump. You messed up Incursion and now AT. You guys really are just trying to kill this game, arent you?
Eliminating choice tokens and worse progression than we had?
Not sure how anyone will ever upgrade the latest useless building (Academy). I need 24K training merits for a single refine....I can farm maybe 1000 per trip. 24 trips for a single refine. This is the definition of NOT FUN.
Scopely to the players right now.
Why do you hate your players so much? This alliance is really bad, and it was one of the few good things we had!!!
Perhaps, although they're likely going to be unemployed without a product sooner rather than later.
Oh yeah....and it requires tokens to get there. What a complete joke this once fun game has become.
I have feedback contingent on two conditionals:
- If Scopely views the old version of alliance tournaments as too lucrative for players without spending money and
- If Scopely is not interested in completely gutting and redoing the tasks from the ground upā¦
then Scopely should just retire alliance tournaments. Better that than insulting us yet again by trying to run a slightly improved version of this nonsense next month.
Where's the AMS that normally accompanies these
there isnt going to be one its only there for those that hadnt spend their strategema yet cause they are retiring it
someone needs to recheck the math on this run of Alliance Tournaments. The new currency basically costs $200 for 13k. 13k is about 1/5 of the cost to get 1000 particles for a prime. So it would cost $1000 using the tournament to get the prime, but it sells for $100 in the cash shop. That is absolute insanity
nobody knows and they don't care at all.
as said there won't be one, the exchange is being retired and this is your last chance to use up any remaining currency
Been saying this, itās new math š
They hope people canāt figure it out
was that communicated somewhere, must have missed it
the announcement i made for the tournament
can someone explain me why the MACO event points are so insanely high? esp todays speed up one
If the goal of the recent update was to reduce the amount of players , then well doneš
Scopley, you did it wrong when players actually enjoy reading official discord roast more than playing your game
Remove the junk you added scopely or delete the whole game now
I mean, what are they supposed to say? They can't bite the hand that feeds them, so they have to be careful where they engage. We just have to hope, regardless of their personal opinions, that they are telling the powers that current decisions/changes are being met with extremly ample complaints and players quitting.
The updates to AT were amazing, we are so grateful not to get any value whatsoever and nothing to spend our in AT currency on. also thank you for not running a Choice Token BP alongside Ferengi cos who needs Materials or Resources. š
it's so bad all channels have a 5 min slow mode to contain everyone's distain.
A level 10 force field couldn't contain all that
Don't worry, the moment it affects them, the person we all know will make another video with fake apologies and false promises, geared more towards the shareholders than the players.
Lol scopely removed battlepass last week, which screwed flow on events and stopped players completing and no compensation at all. Now they do this to AT where the only way to complete 10k events is to spend over $150 a pop
Unless youāre a āPay Megabucks To Win Nothing Worth Havingā player, Scopely no longer gives a rats azz about you. I donāt know why they donāt just man up and admit it.
People would buy BP to help in the AT now we donāt have to because it doesnāt. Thats 20 a month saved. ā
This new alliance Tournement is horrible. From the store to the re rolls to the paid for task only. You can shove this one Scopes. Your decision making process is broken. You all blow and suck at the same time.
Alliance Tournaments are really bad. All tasks are for whales and guppies. Nothing for the upper G4 / lower G5 players. See you next month.
The damage done to tournaments is the worst change this year.
And CotA, Incursions etc were also really really bad ! I won't be playing much longer
The irony is in trying to get people to spend more you are making people so mad they are quitting in drovesā¦.not to mention people are probably spending LESS.
<@&509690795536941056> Please tell Scopely that many people got those rerolls by SPENDING money to completing tasks that gave the rerolls. I am LIVID that you arenāt doing a 1:1 trading of the rerolls. NOT COOL.
There are three things that are fun in this game, AT, arenas, and incursions; you have destroyed AT and incursions and arenas can be so glitchy. The battle pass was kind of meh but it at least gave you rewards for tasks and you made it completely not worth the time. And letās talk abt the MACO event scoring. I do not have five hours to spend hitting dumb swarm which I donāt even need since I have two maxed Franklins. I am over it. I am not going to bother trying anymore. Iāll log in to talk to my friends and hit a few ships but Iām done trying to complete events. I canāt decide if you are trying to push people into quitting so you can retire the game or you are just that BAD at understanding consumers. Mods I am sorry for the brunt you get, I only hope you are able to pass along the messages of how fast they are loosing everyone
Well I just logged into the game, saw the "new" reroll currency and the complete imbalance of turn in AND the atrocious tasks - and I logged right back out. Great job Scopely! Keep it going and more of us will be leaving this mess , I've been holding out with hope but you're quickly killing any motivation to continue playing smh
<@&509690795536941056> are you actually reading the comments or have you gone awol? I really, really, REALLY hope youāre passing on to Scopely just how much people despise what theyāre doing to a once enjoyable game. I have never seen so many people considering quitting the game completely as I have the last two arcs. Even whales, who surely Scopely rely on for their own wages. Death by a thousand cuts would be less painful than this dragged out death rattle.
I'm here and have been passing on screenshots all day
Aw jeez.
I get 8k a DAY, and you think 160,000 is a good number? This is what being out-of-touch looks like.
Letās hope they start paying attention then, because I have never seen so much discontent shown, if they donāt fix AT at the very least, I think it will finally drive in the final nail šØš ā°ļø
Sad thing is they donāt careā¦.they are deliberately trying to force people into paying $100. It was never their intention to have 10K tasks have free to play option, you can tell by how they have tried to cut off every avenue and force people to pay. Here is thing that I have said so many times and Scopely management CANNOT figure out: Spenders will spend, Free to play wonāt and then you have the ones that are in the middle, they may spend a little here or there. THOSE are the ones that Scopely needs to motivate if they are looking to increase revenue. Scopelyās choices in trying the on the fence spenders to spend more is having the opposite effect. Here is the dumbest thing abt itā¦.I think there are ways they could go abt getting on the fence players to spend more without driving people away. With the battle passā¦.Restore it to like it wasā¦.Get rid of the āmystic levelā but put some of those things that you might have on a āmystic levelā on the normal āeliteā pass. I stopped buying the $19.99 version consistently because the prizes were so meh, make people WANT the elite pass again.
To encourage people to buy the $99 version, keep all the stuff that normally comes with that pack and then, in addition to that, offer DOUBLE the rewards on the elite line instead of people just getting the same thing for the $20 and the $99. THATāS how you motivate people to spend higher. (Also⦠fix your bugs)
Well not participating in alliance now, just less reasons to log in. Thank you for helping me these last months in my transition from cheap to play to free to play, soon the transition to not gonna play will be complete.
Surely you have a couple of thousand $$$ you can donate to Scrudley?
Whoops, That reply was meant for something else...
at least they didn't remove the syndicate rep event so a person could do a task. Or more then one if they bought the pass unlock............oh wait....................................RIP that lost revenue on that pass unlock as well. Oh and the drastic reduction on task refreshes is a total coincidence and had nothing to do with making it even harder to find a task worth doing. GG 
On one hand, I want you to know that I value and respect your work. But on the other hand, I don't envy your work. It's like being the target on a shooting range, getting shot at from both sides at the same time.
Iām on a lot of discord servers related to this game including the one I started with 400 members. There are a lot of good people calling it quits today.
Not a chance š«”
Alliance Tournaments were one of the events, the game has lacked a lot of, where the Alliance could work together to complete a task and earn some catch-up rewards, just like the Officer Depot. You have removed a way for people in lower Ops to feel relevant in the game. Like there was some kind fo reward and benefit to playing this game. This is greed on a disgusting level.
@full swan passing screenshots is great.
Pin this to the crocodile tears wall...
Just take the simple path, 𤷠like fix the game. Until then one $20 bp is all scopley charges. Stop the copy past arcs until the game is at least stable enough for the community to play.
<@&509690795536941056> AT in its past form encouraged me to buy the Syndicate pass and the arc Battle pass. I had my first "perfect" (all 10ks) last time and had a great time doing it.
So that's the problem right? You want more from me? Not this month, maybe never.
Now, I am buying neither since they don't help AT. The value just isn't there now.
Some of these tasks feel like mining one parsteel for 750 points. The next step up requires a second mortgage on my condo to pay for it.
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just put up a 7 day shield, my longest, and logged out. I've lost interest and have no desire to particpate in what's being offered
If Scopely continues to make these types of decisions that hurt f2p and low spenders, those players will continue to leave the game. Whales aren't going to spend on a dead game, they will move to another game. F2p and low spenders are keeping this game alive and Scopely is driving them out and killing their game
To be perfectly honest I think this was the absolute dumbest update Scopley has ever done. I've been playing 5 or 6 years now. While I don't spend much, I did spend. With this update basically every regular event that gave any sort of decent rewards for participating without requiring heavy spending is dead. And with it unless Scopley fixes this Extremely fast, I'm done with this game and anything else Scopley produces.
CMās are amongst the hardest working and least appreciated, people in gaming development. (Certainly by their bosses) Sorting out other peoples mess, which I guarantee was predicted by the CM in the first place.
I know CMās from other games and I know that right now, you are burning to say ātold you soā to many in the office.
so who is enjoying alliance tournament? LOL
People with head injuries?
So... in addition to how awful AT is... walk me through the logic of training the players to sit on every mat they ever get to splurge during AT? there's nothing fun or good about this.
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What an utter train wreck AT has become. Just awful. It was fun, rewarding, and was running well. I was able to put in some effort and get quite a few very good rewards from the store. Now? Unless I want to spend A LOT of money (I don't btw) I'll be lucky to get a fraction of what I could before. There's no more motivation.
Add in the horrendous changes to incursions, what was my favorite event, and the continued non-stop bugs/glitches/lag, what's the point of playing?
The new loops are terrible and uninspiring, Battle Pass is ridiculous now, Incursions, now AT. I'm not sure Scopely could do anything right after this monstrosity.
you talk like its so easy but once everyones refreshes run out it will be even worse. so your point is invalid
Oh yeah. I forgot that incursions is now awful and G5 scrapping terrible in the oh so long list of things Scope ruined in the last three months.
almost all of the 20k tasks require 200 dollars. which is 3000 dollars a month, $36,000 a year if you did every 20k task and lol they put slowmode on 3 minutes in an events feedbakc channel
That's great. Now you can finally get on the VIP server. It's worth it, isn't it?
5minutes slowmode is what i meant, not 3 minutes . but that tells you that they know we are mad.
It's All Digit's Fault š¤£šš¤£
Just here to file my complaint like everyone else.
Allaince tournaments are horrible now. I don't enjoy any of the changes you have made and am seriously considering ignoring AT all together now. I ignored everything you put out for the last two archs this will be just one more thing to ignore.
I want to also demand the immediate reversal of proposed changes to officer depot tokens. Being able to pick specific officers to invest our tokens in was an amazing system that helped players get officers and promote them. These changes takes away the player benefit of selecting individual officers and forces us to group pull like the old recruit pulls. This changes is like a slap in the face for players and should be reversed immediately!
the bug reporting slowmode is 30 seconds , but the events feedback is 5minutes. i am not buying anything. i was saying if a player did all max tasks it would be around 36,000 dollars a year . lol
Please show me where these say āHEROICā? Do you realize you need to do abt 14 Q Trialsā¦. And the speed up oneā¦.I actually hit a āheroic tierā after getting to 156.6? Ummm, excuse meā¦.getting to 156.6 WAS heroic. That is nearly a 109 days in speed ups. I nearly ran out of things to speed upā¦. It is beyond insane. I am not going to even begin to calculate the FT one. Guess what happens when you set the targets too highā¦.people donāt bother trying. I made it through the first day of the MACO eventsā¦Iām not going to bother trying with the others š¤·š»āāļø. I am sure this is a not so subtle way of Scopely to push people into going through their reserves and then buy packets for more. Not happening here. I just wonāt do the events. And I will say againā¦.WHERE DOES IT SAY ON THE EVENT (before you hit the last tier) āHEROICā.?
Alliance Tournaments - 0/10 = $0 monthly spend.
Need to create that image but with ship name Scopely and torpedoes flying at them with the name of all their recent āenhancementsā š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
20000 point tasks that cost over 100 bucks? And it awards "Premium" Alliance Store Currency? Your greed knows no bounds.
Everyone finally eased into alliance tournaments it had a nice rhythm. You could have kept it all the same and simply added the new paid 20k tasks, which required the new rerolls, and gave out the premium rewards. It would have kept the base engaged and scoring points to raise the leaderboard. Spenders could then boost their alliance with purchases for an edge. Now people look at it and donāt even try so fewer players are scoring points and engaging. Rolling back previously available content makes players upset.
My alliance had a consistent 95%+ alliance tournament participation rate in previous tournaments. Weāre currently at about 60% with dramatically reduced scores. I believe you have epically failed to understand your player base.
My suggestion... Pretend this update never happened. Roll back to 89 and start over.
SCOPELY MATH!!!! Let me see if I understand this correctlyā¦.say I want to get the Godsend.
1320 for 4 shards = 330/shard
need 200 shards to complete need 66000 AT tokens to get it.
You get 13,200 tokens per 20K task and, figuring that it costs a minimum of $100 to do a 20K task that means you would need to complete 5 tasks to earn enough to get the GodSend or equivalent of spending $500 to get it. And what price is the Godsend in the store?????? $99.99 you say? So Scopely wants people to spend $500 to get an item that they could buy for just a $100. At least if I calculated this correctlyš¤š¤š¤. I feel bad for whomever came up with THAT idea š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
ADDENDUM: Tri stated that it costs $200 to do a 20K task so, in that case Scopely wants us to spend $1,000 to get enough tokens to buy an item we could buy for $100.
One that already had F2P sourcing pop up last year ontop that
you need $200 to do 20k task not $100, update your math.
Thanks I was just guessing because I donāt even have the things in my store to even DO our allianceās 20K tasks
Master's League in Alliance Tournament is already hard to acheive, let alone maintain. With the new AT changes, Scopely has moved the more popular items behind tokens called "Legendary Alliance Tournament credits".
But now, earning Master's League status isn't good enough anymore because you need these new credits to buy items. Why the change? Why the need to put items behind these new credits?
What are players already in Master's League getting in return for this change? Why is access to these items now being restricted and made so much harder to obtain in the AT store? What is the rationale behind this?
whaats with the broken tasks!
its hard enough with the handicap.
without the handicap
starbase is broken too
Scopely, if you want me to spend $200 for a task I need it to be on something I need for my account. The legendary tasks should not have a reroll cost.
Aside from the High lvl players and the spenders, Re-rolls were already the worst part of Tournaments. Especially with the different weighting of tasks so spend tasks come up 10 x 1 over F2P tasks. So what do they do? they make the re-rolls harder to get. I guess they really don't want new players to be in the game because they treat anyone low level with disdain . S H A M E I say. shame..
Y'all being racist, no Fed faction ships in the Ferengi store...
The only thing recognized out of these thousands of comments in the lasts 10h. Thats "hearing player feedback" ... like a brick wall...
That isn't for feedback
Which would make it even worse. But without player feedback aka alpha testing this topic would not have been raised.
Ive changed my mindset over night. Actually thank you scopley for the massive Qo(REAL)L improvement. By making such a bad arc with even worse and useless duo waves, useless hostiles and the new tournament as a cherry on top of all, you saved me a lot of lifetime and even the last bit of money ive spent on this game recently. It feels a lot easier to let go a bit more. Its an honest thankš
Empty slots means less tasks means less packs being sold. Like how the servers can be burning down but if the webstore goes down for 30 seconds it's panic stations
We need more refresh tokens.
Participation in AT is through the roof!
Nobody cares just swipe your cc
21 rerolls and I managed to get one decent freaking task.
Tell us your secret
Watch as 90% of your rerolls are converted to garbage new 10k tasks.
I'm gonna need you to swipe your cc for any package you can
<@&509690795536941056> Why are there things in the new AT-Store that now take the new currency while on the last runs they took the normal currency? Adding new stuff, ok, maybe, but changing old pulls to new currency? š©
Cause Scopely are thiefās and liars
<@&509690795536941056> Scopelyā¦..did you leave any tournament tasks for general players to even have a go atā¦ā¦excluding of course all the. Xindi, swarm, hirogen that you have to kill at one point a hit š«©š± at my level. In theory I could do that oneā¦.
Canāt do the tokens for uncommon gas one anymore because my 5 tokens are nerfed and donāt come near to cutting it.
Oh I did manage the mirror one of 3 surveys⦠suspiciously less points compared to previously.
So back to waves then for tiny points.
Not worth the effort .
Agree 100%. I managed one wave with a buddy. ā¦then all ships deadā¦at lowest possible entry level
I have 21k old AT reroll currency. So 21 rerolls. I can exchange 15k old into 100 new ones. So 1 ... reroll now... only 1. @Scopy, is this some sort of out of season april's fool joke?
You guys hate your Community for sure. Worst video game company ever. Far ahead from EA. Congrats. Applaus š
Masters League alliance admiral here, weāre getting the opportunity to experience demotion for the first time ever in AT. And a lot of high level players thinking very hard about tossing the game away.
what 3 tasks did you do as f2p to get to 40k points?
Good Job Scopely. First you make the incursions a snooze fest and now tournaments too. You are on a roll of wrecking all the good parts of the game ... 
Yup. Totally boycotted them until now. Saves lifetime. Not that the rewards are worth the trouble
The main design fail with the tournament is that you compete with your alliance mates for tasks and the more scarce the rerolls are the more that goes to the foreground. On the other hand the tournament is marketed as alliances working together. Its frustrating because the contradiction is so obvious.
its pretty obvious everyone and their mother has told you all your culmination of changes to ruining Alliance tournament have been a highly poor decision however if we could at least get some middle ground.. i propose that you make the tasks automatically reset every ~10 minutes... Theres so few tasks i can do, its impossible to get to them.. give us the rerolls or we simply wont play.
Oh I wont play for me AT is closed not going to invest my time in it now they have basically made it a complete pay to win add to that the broken rods issue I wonder why exactly I log into the game today I have done my dailys claimed what I can and now I am sat here going meh! what do I do now.
As far as this game goes my "get up and go has got up and gone" time to break out another game that I can play as being housebound due to disability and retired I have nothing but time to play games the only requirement for the game is that its enjoyable and this game is no longer enjoyable in its current form I used to spend 12-16 hours a day logged into the game now I am spending an hour or so then go do something else.
well done Scopely a great enhancement in the game..........NOT!
- Acquire mats for 10k
- Acquire Bajoran credits for 10k
- Acquire Bajoran credits for 20k
No, they need to remove the refresh tokens and make the tasks more meaningful - i dont want to roll 5000 times for a useful task
Confirmed: officers still NOT TRIGGERING in outposts. We were told this would be addressed in the update yesterday.
Oooh will go and check that out. Thanks
accomplished a 10k task with a reward of 880 credits..
omg ⦠Scopely, are you serious ??
They need to get rid of the new sigma reroll tokens and just let us reroll with the old reroll tokens as I can no longer reroll to find tasks worth completing and the amount of current Alliance Tournament tasks are just ridiculous and need a more often refreshtime period. The usual reroll tokens were fine and allowed to reroll to find completable tasks worth the effort. Now the Sigma refresh tokens make it basically useless and asinine as well as hard to find tasks worth spending the time ti reroll and find,'
I walked away from the game for over a year, I only logged in to shield when attacked. I made the mistake of letting my curiosity get the best of me and started playing again. I was suprised using depot choice recruits I got the officers I wanted and needed choice rewards I got mats I needed alliance tournament want great but I could contribute. All of the reasons I didnāt put my phone back down are now being taken away so why not just add the ferengi store to your nerf list because you have basically gotten rid of all the incentives I had to continue playing with respect dolphins and whales die without bait fish
Easiest fix for them now is just to scrap reroll tokens all together at least we could the tasks we wanted to then
And doing in an arc where you want us to invite people back what logic is that letās severally nerf the game while trying to convince people who probably left because of things like this only to double down on them to prove you havenāt changed in the same arc, seems like great business strategy
How about adding checkboxes so using 1 reroll (100 credits) you can change up to 5 tasks at once?
The changes of AT and the removal of the choice reward tokens have completely ruined the Event. Thank you for this. Again and again you make this game with changes worse than before...
There's a lot I could point out as being a change for the worse about Aliiance Tournaments, but I'll just focus here: Adding 20k-point tasks that apparently can only be completed by spending $100 or more on each feels bad already, but just adding those alone merely would've propelled mega whale alliances even further up, fine (new rewards only ever accessible through those tasks also feels bad, but again, fine); simultaneously making rerolls scarce and clogging up lower-point task tiers with stuff that also can only be completed via purchases makes even normal participation feel like it's up to luck or paying money.
Because tasks that award any credits are now random to just access, even if magically the non-whale ranks stay in roughly the same order, Alliance Tournaments actually give worse rewards for the vast majority of player now than before the changes.
An example to improve the tournament without just rolling it back. It would be useful to add more slots for the tasks (maybe 50% more for each group) and allow maybe 2 or 4 rerolls in tasks allowing players to have more options instead of luck decide how well they are trying to play the tournament.
Your words right there are exactly why I want to just end this nightmare as well. They have given several middle fingers to us by getting rid of everything that was good about the game. Why even bother at this point?
I do not understand the changes to the alliance tournament together as a whole...
I do understand making the 10k tasks more exclusive so that an unpaid player will find them difficult or impossible....
I also understand the thought of adding a new series of tasks (the 20k point ones) only a paid player can do....
Doing both makes no sense. It will only kill the 10k point tasks.
If I am going to pay to complete a task I am not gonna bother with the 10k ones, no profit for me....
If i am an unpaid player i am just gonna aim for lower than the 10k tasks...
besides more refresh tokens,
icons for task requirement currencies would be nice too. hand up if you dont bother learning the names of every loops endlessly different currencies like me š
Scopely's Feedback shield ONš¤£
Their just hiding and hoping we all forget being bent over with no reach around
they can hide and hope we forget all they want problem is we're star trek fans and true fans remember stuff from a show 50 years ago we won't forget stuff from a few days or even few months ago rofl
the new rendition of Alliance Tournament is,to put it lightly,not very good
Various officers/items are missing in the alliance tournament store, for example: Andy Billups, Carol Freeman, Jack Ransom, Shaxs, officer depot tokens, etc.
There was an announcement that the store would expand...... not that officers/items would be removed (even without a transition period).
you are wrong it would be 1,000 dollars. each 20k task is roughly 200 . so it would be 10x the price
so basically scopely wants players to be dumb enough to spend 1000 to earn something they could buy for 100 flat
I hear so much disappointment from loyal players, not only the f2p... So many will quit soon if the game won't make a u-turn...
Have to give it to Scopely, they really managed to alienate players this time round. Not only do they update the AT in such a way it's practically impossible to get any decent tasks, they actually do so during an arc that already had a large amount of G6 players pulling their hair out
bump
do it spend more money pls
Wow...talk about a DOA loop.
The MACO event sucks. Hiding super heroic in a secret heroic is bs.
So this is digraceful. You hype up tournaments and only add new things that big spenders can get. I spend some each month, but I am done spending until you guys actually change stuff and make it good. Borg Sphere (PTP), or 200 days of BP pulling. The new tournament...PTP freaking disgraceful. Dumbest idea ever.
if you want the game to die just tell us. We can find something else.
I still maintain that anyone who invited someone else to play this game should be shunned from the community. Friends don't let friends play STFC.
Definitely ready to hang it up. Who ever has been making decisions for the games direction needs counseling or just listening to the players might help. The last few months have been terrible, nothing like it has been or how it was designed. May be the game has run its course and they are grasping at straws? The updates are the worst, each comes with at least one downtime to fix errors that should never happen. Regardless Iām not interested in the current format at all so will be taking a break. Ultimately I donāt see anything as far as game play/course getting better so guessing Iām just done with the game.
Yeah, no. The changes to the rerolls make them so limited that I dont want to burn them 5 at a time trying to sift through the even more watered down task pool they've now given us.
New MACO events: META rewards only Heroic milestones. First day heroic milestones = final milestones on events, and that was fine, as I could plan how to achieve it. Second day, heroic milestones is uncovered only after hitting final, and that is poor quality - can't plan anything, only hoping that I'll have enough resources to accomplish it.
Often if I can't hit final/heroic milestones of event, I won't do it at all, to preserve resources for next event. Now I emptied all FT and CT resources, only to find out I would need twice as much.
<@&509690795536941056> @molten marlin Didnāt the 61 academy hostiles give out 10 loot at launch? Now it is just 5. Did the loot get dropped on all these hostiles? Or am i bonkers and just not remembering correctly?
<@&509690795536941056> How do you expect players to do the duo waves if 1200 token are needed to start but you can only source about 200-220 a day?!
$$$
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No, $$$$$ + $$$$$ +$$$$$...
when we say f2p, they understand "free to pay"
No, no, they read that as "Fees to pay".
<@&509690795536941056> Honest question, why are the duo waves 1400 tokens when every wave system is only 100? Like why the change? Why not just make it the same as every other wave system in the game?
When you understand its not Huuumans running the show but Fenrengiās it all makes senseā¦
Is there some reason itās been running with one less AT task for the last half hour?
all the same tasks are still there. but they added new 10K and removed rerolls and cnversion rate of 15 1 so it looks like they are gone
Everyone in your alliance Got to buy a$99 dollar pack to get it
@near saddle@full swan@molten marlin@queen kindle Spent 8000 AT tasks refresh tokens and only got 2 f2p 10k tasks, this isnt right and something needs to be corrected
Yes your willingness to engage with a dead feature
Just noticed the Below Decks strike team officers (Billups, Shax, Ransom) were removed from the AT store. That stinks. Was looking forwards to maxing Billups at least in a couple tournaments.
Alliance tournaments are no longer enjoyable. Put the rerolls back the way they were since you added a ton of p2p bs
8000 task refreshes?! Wait... you spent money to buy Tournament refreshes, when you could have spent money to actually get directives or something that could finish the P2P tasks for more points? Make it make sense.
it is possible they had enough to convert that
The tournament is so poorly revised. A complete disappointment. And I only did two tasks today, but it says I did three. Is the "counter++" function not working correctly in your C, C#, or C++ code?
I had 1,5 million refresh tokens that were converted to around 10k
The conversion rate, having 7000 refresh points netted me a grand total of 40 of the new refresh credits. No way.
don't give them ideas
1.5 Million? How?! When they previously capped? Past tournaments I would get 12k per gift (as F2P) and could not accept any more if I had over 20k I think.
@rough ravine i would get alot for each 10k task i did
love how they're changing the rules on us daily on this, really
I think you are talking about the store credits, not the task refreshes maybe?
i always did 3x 10k per AT day, so i accumulated alot of refresh tokens
You don't get refresh tokens for that, you get store credits. You are talking about something completely different.
Refresh tokens came from the daily gift during Tournaments. You would get 12k per day (enough for 12 refreshes) and they capped at 20k I think.
they werent capped if you get them as prize to do a 10k task
I never once got refresh tokens for doing 10k tasks, which I did a LOT of. I got tournament points and AT store credits. Maybe European servers are different?
I've just spent all 800 sigma refresh tokens and got 2 tasks I could do. I did none, because the game doesn't refresh like it should, so claiming them did nothing. Going out of the screen and back made the tasks disappear. I am at the end of my nerves with this crap of a money grabbing second job simulator you call a game.
Congratulations, the changes to AT have demoralized almost half of my alliance to the point they don't event want to bother engaging with AT anymore.
AT.
8 refresh and all 10k tasks p2w.
Thx you scop...
first incursion, now alliance tournament⦠i wonder what event scopely is looking to screw up nextā¦
After the first day...
just did a 3K alliance tournament task because i idgasšrelegation here we come
They may as well call MACO. Spend Everything You Own Plus The Kitchen Sink event
Just spent 20 refreshes for tournaments and got not one usable task. I'm done.
Every Acquire 10k task used to give you rerolls that could stack and had no limit.
You also had Acquire 10k tasks and Spend 10k task.
Acquire gave out rerolls.
G5 player. MACO Artificer (SMS) appears broken. It says restore & upgrade artifacts. The scoring criteria has nothing about restore or upgrade artifacts. The SLB does however.
figured they would do something like this when i did 12 pulls of premium to finish my sms earlier. was thinking the same as i did it lol
<@&509690795536941056> Well, at least a few F2P-tasks are back now. But the most annoying part is still unsolved: old rewards (REPUTATION!) only available with new currency š”š”š”
Points for Station Advancement SMS and SLB are not counted
so what tasks are limited now?
10k acquire
They did this the last two times too š
I went to play something else today. I won't finish MACO 100% anyway and I don't care about the rewards, I can do without them. I haven't done many events in the years so the extra few are lost. I don't have daily quests, MACO events, Wednesday events and I don't know if there are new events for wave or takeover. I don't even know what I have and don't have and I don't care.
excellent event labeling 10/10 no notes
i just used all my xindi directives and it didnt score any points in final weapon sms
Same
I do have positive feedback for two new ftp AT tasks:
- rogue research credits 10k
- bajoran credits 10k
why:- if you're up-to-date on your bajoran faction and rogue research, you aren't claiming either of these daily anyway, so there's no need to hoard them. They're just available.
- The bajoran credits can even be done more than once per day.
wow another 10k task re roll turn in 3ktask
at this point stfc open scam players of token
same
<@&509690795536941056> I launched 2 armada now one didn't score one did, doubt that information is helpful to you but there it is
My expectations of this game and events really couldnt be lower. And then scopely Scopely's the Alliance Tournament and sets a new low bar. Thanks for destroying it and making it nearly impossible to get the 10k tasks for f2p players.
<@&509690795536941056> I completed an event in Alliance Tournament and it didn't score the event like normal
Give us back the old tournaments.
- Building upgrades not scoring for Interstellar Dominance - Station Advancement SLB and SMS (Heroic) events.
- No Strategema event, although it's there in the Event Store.
- No Secondary events to accompany Alliance Tournament for the small increments of points and credits
Give us back the last 6 years of my life
Tournaments are no longer playable. Just when you think the events and playability have hit the bottom, Scopley says, "Hold my beer."
I dont know why they bother having this Discord channel - despite the new AT being the most widley hated change I have seen, Scopley dont care
with all the alliance tournament we forget the absolute cash grab of borg conquer armada event
it is š¤®
Scopely: "Hey they're really enjoying this event, let's exploit that as much as possible by getting people to pay to enjoy it. Anyone who doesn't pay money isn't allowed to have fun."
even those who did pay a reasoable amount MUST PAY MORE!
Hey scopley! These are the conversations we have in alliance chat when you can't slow us down or delete them so thers can't see
What - no money grab.... ahem...... multi tier system for the Ferengi Exchange, Territory Capture, or Wave Defence passes? Or are you just saving some hate in the bank for next month?
Changing the task re-roll currency was pointless and all itās doing is adding more unusable junk to our inventories⦠now I have some of the original re-roll currency I can never remove. (That said, I have no idea why I have 200 left when 1k was needed for one reroll anyway..) and i know a lot of ppl with the same issue.
I hate everything they did with Alliance tournaments outside of expanding the Emerald Chain. That being said, while the conversion rate is garbage, you do realize you can convert the old rerolls into the new rerolls, right?
Yes. Thatās how I ended up with 200 left, after converting the rest and not even having enough for one new reroll from the conversion. So now Iāll have unusable currency of BOTH rerolls
Got ya. I was misunderstanding what you were saying.
Conversion for the temporal disruptor task stopped working. Stuck at 12450. Sigh
Well if only they would be for everyone... and not only <55
Is this joke in new Alliance Tournament store? Why are badges 4 times more expensive while you give the same reward for completing Tournaments ?!!?? You simply cannot withstand players to progress in reasonable time in any area can you ??!!! So not even you are not able to provide missing shards for essential officers but as we get them after months of grinding multiple loops you kick our shins by making promoting of these officers 4 times slower than before. I am not surprised people are leaving the game. Not anymore. I wish you Scopely brutal financial end from bottom of my heart.
these were the only thing that made the badge economy barely tolerable and now its all borked. i counted today and have 42 officers waiting on badges to upgrade, some have been sitting there so long i can upgrade em twice over. mind you some of them are useless outside of ATA but some i use daily.
<@&509690795536941056> i have just burnt 2000 AT rerolls and every 10k task that has come up has been locked behind a pay wall. I get you need money to keep the game going but this is beyond the joke
<@&509690795536941056> as I mentioned, every 10k task is behind a $150 pay wall. Yesterday I at least had the temporal disruptor task coming up. so far today 2500 rerolls done and nothing but paywalls
working like intended (apparently)
There are a small handful of 10k tasks which can be completed f2p, but good luck getting them under the new tournament reroll format.
20k tasks are straing $200 to complete regardless. I dont know what to say about that which won't get me banned.
Thanks Scopely, you took one of the good events that allowed players that are not whales to gain a little bit of progress and said 'nahhhh we can't be having that' let's make it into another whale event! Effectively giving 90% of the players the middle finger!
Great work guys š¤¦š£ Great work
Multi players missing tournament points for last task, I have put ticket in but whatās going on.
There are some 20k tasks the are easy to do for f2p players aswell the issue is the rerolls
Like what ?? Maybe you wanna say 10k not 20k
They donāt want you to progress! They want to cash you last $$$ before they shut down the game.
This game seems to be running by fans of ponzi schemes.
i guess this month survey may be interesting.. not only removing the good things but also putting more paid stuff like the old ones were not enough for scopely... (2nd level battlepass really?).. what will happen if you keep punishing the f2p players? those will quit, the whales will stay for some time until their cannon fodder is gone and they'll realize that are the new one... yeah a good move to kill the game imo
ponzi schemes aspire to be like this game
There is one task acquiring bajoran faction credits which can be done free by exchange bajoran badges to credits in thw faction store another is in the rogue faction there's actually 2 acquire 20k and 40k rouge research credits can also be done free but the 40k would need to be last task of the day to finish with a 2nd pull the 3rd is the shape memory alloy task if you have a t14+ borg cube with claims in the support refinery and in transogem refinery under loop efficiencies folder that can also be done free if it's the last task as it will need a double pull, we'll it will for me anyway the real problem is the rerolls
Oh didn't saw that are 20k ššš spended the rerolls before i got 1 of that . Sorry šš
If only we had choice tokens....
Or just use one pull from the outpost refinery?
so no reason to buy any packages anymore
Tourney not scoring properly did 10k epic Dom pull and Nada
the AT is even worse than normal at lower Ops, the new tasks dilute the possible pool of thing we can do even further, and I get less rerolls, awesome, I should have expected it to happen when they've just jumped all the story to be Ops 61+ for this arc as it is, bonkers
Ok now for mid ops please
Not anymore, they ops locked it, meaning for ops 61+ bajoran credits is now mavericks credits, outlaw research credits is now intel, so yeah no luck for you
Did 30 re rolls and can confirm
Oh and looks like Scoops also increased the Syndicate XP task from 800k to 880k. It just never stops.
The amount of no official response to this is equal parts telling, hilarious, and deeply sad.
You've gotten your last peso from me, hombres, to include that epically messed up new battle pass
Can G5 please get the schedule of events in our inbox? The most recent schedule we have was for week 1, which ended on May 3
Regarding Alliance Tournaments just being flooded with pay-to-win tasks now, even Scopely appears to not have been able to keep track of all of them so we got doubles with slightly different requirements but identical rewards:
And the point value, 20k. š
Anyone know if there is a list with the new tournament tasks? Donāt want to spend refreshes looking for something that doesnāt exist anymore.
didn't score for me either and i am ops 32. the SLB scored, but not the SMS
What happened to the events for these? they were like grinding hostiles that awarded points and credits towards AT?
Retired, exchange was brought back so people can use up the last of their currency
so basically scopley just went back to ignoring lower and mid ops players
And high Ops
Further disappointing moves from Scopay
Hard getting 10k tasks I can complete at ops 49 and all morning 2 have been empty WTAF <@&509690795536941056>
<@&509690795536941056> Can you please alert the devs that sometimes when you reroll alliance tasks, your reroll is wasted because it gives the same task?
Also it appears you can have 2 of the same task up which also makes it even more difficult to reroll what you're trying to get.
Please fix these two items, and while minor, should help slightly with the rerolls
it's not cute setting the final goal so that doing 3 level 72 solos leaves you just short
Also missing 10k tasks.
Working as intended
how close to reality is the complete shutdown? What do you think guys?
same thinking, there must be already a sundown strategy running. and all these changes/bugs are part of the plan
<@&509690795536941056>
It seems Scopley may have really missed the mark with these events.
To me it seems like this is because Scopely lost control of the game. The base game is so borked that our whack-a-mole bugs and the lag are here to stay or even get worse with all the content that has been stacked on top. They can't fix it and they know it. So don't get your hopes up for improvements.
Pffft, you have people who scored?
After years of strugling with Alliance Tournaments and doing just low tasks, I finally got to where I could do the 10k ones without a problem. You just made all that time and effort meaningless. And you expect me to buy something? No, thanks.
They donāt expect you to buy something.
They expect you to buy everything.
@near saddle => #š -known-issues message <=
Thanks for the Update.
The problem isnāt submitting a ticket to Customer Support ā I already did that yesterday evening.
The real issue is whether the points will actually be credited in time BEFORE the event ends.
Usually, you first have to go back and forth with Customer Support, even though these bugs are already globally known and all the evidence is there (screenshots, logs, etc.).
So far, I still havenāt received any response ā and the event reset is in about 3 hours.
Bummer to Scope that a huge amount of players are in the 50ās or lower and not progressing at a good clip.
āBoss I got an idea. Say if we removed choice tokens, officer depot tokens, added new tasks to the AT while making older ones almost nonexistent, took refreshes out of the rewards and added new items to the AT store you can only get with new, secondary AT credits for impossible 20k point tasks , all of which would goad players into spending $1200-1500, or more, in the shop over 4-5 days? Thatāll surly get the players to progress.ā
Boss: āBrilliant! Somebody make that guy a VP of something!ā
Jeeze that would be funny if it wasn't so true
Alliance Tournaments has really gone down the toilet since being modified to an update focused on profit recovery. The tasks, the points system, refresh tokens. The term "Premium" in this game is a false pretense for "Privileged" by Privileged meaning wealthy. Scopley gives the impression that Star Trek Fleet Command is now designed as a dependent for their more generic games and erroneous issues related to programming, along with perks and incentives for Content Creators and Multiple Account users. As a paying customer and player who enjoyed the game to a certain point Scopley has defiled The Star Trek Brand from my perspective. Definitely a Disappointment for the True Star Trek Fans and Hobbists that appreciate the real value in gaming.
They missed the mark on almost everything this month. Complete and total failure as a developer. I hope the accounting department sees a serious dip in revenue this month, otherwise they won't even think about fixing this nightmare.
basically, u not getting the event points in time... hope if they can at least give u the event rewards later and add the points to the slb
That doesnāt help much, since the SLB is ending soon, and without those points I may not secure the ranking I would otherwise have achieved.
On top of that, it affects multiple events where points ā and potentially rewards as well ā are missing for me.
It's kinda funny one can post "Scopely Scopley'd it" and everyone would know exactly what you're talking about without needing to say anything else.
Scopely didn't just Scopley the alliance tournament, they out-Scopley'd themselves.
Players are fleeing the game in droves, because Scopely keeps Scopleying things.
Scopely needs to concentrate on three things for the remainder of the year:
- revert recent changes to the gameplay to how things were. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- stop emphasizing gameplay aimed for the big spenders over everyone else. There's an imbalance in daily tasks tilted towards those who spend $100 or more a month.
- stop creating worthless to the game content like the cartoons until the game is fixed.
<@&509690795536941056> can someone please explain why the Vengeance is Mine event big points are now locked behind a currency that you need the facade to be lvl 60 for? Oh look, you offered a $50 and $100 pack to speed the facade along. Thatās great, and also fits in well with the overall greedy disdain youāve had for your players recently. Destroyed incursions, destroyed alliance tournaments, and now made it all but impossible to upgrade the vengeance like we could just a month ago.
Why not give 242 points for the section 31 transmitters, and 424 points for the enhanced section 31 transmitters. This would mirror the materials tiers that you have for the same event between uncommon and rare for G6 & G7.
I feel u... back when I had the same problem, I only got the event rewards later...
the total points u would make with those is irrelevant... unless u buying packs and gonna upgrade the building up to lvl 50
Vengeance is Mine is supposed to be a challenging event. I got it, but Iāve been doing it for months now. Stockpileā¦spendā¦stockpileā¦spend.
Now by locking the largest point material behind a building being a certain level you are cutting out players who havenāt focused on the facade.
All Iām asking is why not put in some lower level of points for the regular section 31 transmitters.
Congratulations Scopley, you have changed Alliance Tournaments from a fan favorite into a complete Cash Cow. We get a Chump 8 rerolls and day and every single reroll becomes a $$$ Pay event. I sure hope you folks know where you can stick these changes!
I feel u... I was doing the same to spend this month on that very same event, then they updated the event to different buildings. next month it will be different buildings...;
Exactly! The formula has been to promote the new buildings. Happened with the signal observatory and happened with the warp dive bar. Iām good with that because I feel like Iām getting value in terms of the Vengeance event and the new content.
But this month it goes back to a building that was introduced in Dec 2023!!! Iām not saying there isnāt value in upgrading this and other buildings because it provides good buffs. However, to my knowledge after the initial roll out there havenāt been any interim events to promote its upgrade. Now BAM, out of the blue, make it 60 or your Vengeance is screwed, or I hope you havenāt upgraded your sphere (if you bought it), or get ready to whip out your wallet to buy sigma trit and sigma dilithium because you need to spend G6 and G7 for ships and research like the world is going to end tomorrow!
Just frustratingā¦
Just offer 242 points or something for regular section 31 transmitters and Iāll gladly upgrade my facade.
Well, as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this game. I won't be supporting it anymore, since it's all just about money now anywayāthey don't care what happens to us.
At the rate we're going, we'll soon see posters on the internet saying "players wanted"
While this is true, I gotta ask... what's wrong with a peach scented candle? š¤£
Congrats Scopely, you killed AT
For alliance tourny.. if your gonna cheat us of rerolls at least GIVE US tasks we can do for our OPS when we reroll.. sick of rerolling tasks and getting stuff i cant do at all.. i used all 8 rerolls and kept getting tasks i cant do for my OPs
Example: an ops 35 rerolling SHOULD NOT be getting stuff like killing mirror, texas hostiles, gorn, spend sigma
It's stuff like this that is also driving players away.. dont expect players to spend money on rerolls when they are complete trash.
Scopley just do everyone a favor and end Alliance Tournaments and put us out of our misery hunting events that Never show up!
The question here is : Does actually Scopely cares about what we say in here ? Dosen't look like it AT ALL
Scopley if your trying to get folks to spend more money, you sure are going about it the wrong way. With all these changes in the past month if they don't get changed back immediately I will Never spend another Cent on this game.
Except Scopely staff, is there a single human liking/enjoying the new AT ?
Not me
why are you gonna have officer recruitment slbs 2 days in a row, theres one today for cadre and then one tomorrow for maco.
More packs to spend $$$$$$ on.
???
So scopley learned nothing from the dumpster fire they started and now stare at it in shock. Here's an idea put the fire out.
20k task to acquire 10k premium mirror dust. No way to do that in game yes. But as luck would have it, thereās a pack in the store thatās double the dust youād usually get! That right! Just fof the AT you can get 5k dust for only $100!
So I doubt thatās a deal they have up at any other time, not the 2x amount but just a premium dust pack. Even then itāll be $100 for 2500 dust because it 2x now. Further still, having to spend $200 on a single AT task.
This is EA & Actividion/Blizzard levels of greed.
<@&509690795536941056>
Why in the world does AT credits not scale per point task? If I happen to get a F2P 10K task and receive 4,400 AT credits...if I had/wanted to take an 8K task instead, why am I not getting 80% (3,520 AT Credits) of the higher 10K task rewards? Or a 4K task scale to 40% (1,760 AT credits)?
Fair scaled loot make players feel like they are at least getting something in return for non-10K/20K tasks. 375 AT credits is a joke...or completing a 3K or lower task and getting jack-squat is WORSE! Reward the player fairly...no matter what the point level is. š”
Feedback on the new drone content:
90 person level 60 alliance. Not a single Advanced Curriculum event has been completed. Literally zero of our players are interacting with this content.
RLBs continue to be not worth the effort.
Absolutely zero point in a tournament where all you need to do is outspend the other alliances. Shouldn't be called tournament more like binge spending.
Thought they were fixing the AT scoring? I'm still missing 20k points
Last I knew the company line was to contact support
Congratulations Scopley, 18 rerolls of the 10k events, and i got 18 completely pay events for my efforts! I'm going outside to watch the grass grow as that is more fun then what your greed has made this game.
So I took this AT task it says I am on 1/3 but wonāt give me credit for doing it. It say I can pick another one though. I done the task before so I know I did it right. But I canāt claim the completed.
<@&509690795536941056> so you guys canāt even get Alliance Tournaments to run right this game is doomed.
That's way past even EA levels of greed š¤£
Alliance tournament: ultra recruit is only scoring if you open one chest at a time, not if you open all 5 at once
But, it's all fixed and scoring as intended... so.... this is what was intended? (I have feedback about that, but it would probably get me banned)
That must be whatās going on with me.
Kinda hard to do the mako events when you can't access the part of the game you need to work on to advance. And when I restart the game the entire event disappears.
seriously that was what it was Scopley programming is trash.
I found the root cause but they still won't fix it
They'll "investigate"
This game is doomed.
Missing a 10k task from the list, the game is updated and I rebooted
AT tasks done but not counting. It's getting worse each update even with more and more cash grab
Fix your stuff scoplay and don't add more and more stuff to make our lives harder
<@&509690795536941056> the field training event is not scoring for spending trait XP and the gain power event is not scoring for upgrading drydocks
Alliance Tasks not tracking each time requirements are met. Support thru in game scopley tickets aren't helpful as response time is 24 hours or more, when the event that is bugged is already less than 24 hours left active there's no chance to get it resolved. How do you actually get live support for this game?
just reported AT task spenk rare FKR directives has also stopped working
At least you only have 1 empty box not populating. Mine was stuck at 3 blanks. Absolutely infuriating.
not as much as using all six of your rerolls and literally getting the same two task EVERYTIME.
Loading the 10k points tasks with tons of new pay to win ones made AT trash. Every single ones belongs in the 20k bucket as its all spending to win.
Just converted old rerolls for new, 10 minutes later still waiting. Scores still bugged. Have wasted all of todayās rolls going round in circles getting the same undoable bs.
Field training worked for me, the Trait spend did not work for Recruitment Drive SLB
Good to know, maybe an issue with Trait XP specifically
i'll submit a ticket in a bit, make sure they know
you lot have still forgotten ho to count, curriculum event drones and/or hostiles, most can only kill 61s, so 7k kills to complete, hostiles are still 200x lv 71s, out of order, and whats the rewards, credits
Same thing happened to me yesterday. I spent a reroll token and got that.
Yeah My ultra recruiting is not working.screenshots are the second try to spend 4000 tournament tasks.
Four tasks on the board that are all acuiring the same thing is really not fun. I should get something other than these when rerolling.
I had an issue like that on the last run of Maco. They told me I hadnāt done anything to score and closed the ticket. Two problems 1) answer came after the event was over. 2) they didnāt know what the ā¦ā¦. they were talking about I had done the task. It just didnāt score but it did take my resources.
Well as a player who could pump out 15 10k events every AT like clockwork by just playing the game smart, I have already lost 1 10k event because of no choice rewards, spent 16 rerolls and every single one came back a spend events. Now I get to let my Alliance down because scopley is focused on the All Mighty Buck! Thanks for nothing Scopley!
First and foremost, just so @everyone is clear, I am not quitting Star Trek Fleet Command. I will be riding this hellaciously fun/tormenting train until it flies off the rails completely. That said, I wouldn't advise that for most players and sometimes the best way to love Star Trek Fleet Command is to take a break from. Any relationship can gr...
Iāve ended up completing the event but spend 107k of trait XP and didnāt score, so itās just another nail in the coffin for me
Little problem with this task. Its not doable if you have all the favors complete. There just isnt enough to spend on due to the daily cooldown of the trade ins for parts and unc trade downs. Either the cooldown needs to be decreased or the amount increased. Adding a slider would be a good idea so that this task can be doable. Its an 8k task, one would think spending would be easy right? 
you'd have to build another nx
While that is an option, its not really feasible in the long term.
Especially when sourcing is only available f2p from the AT store and would require 5 runs of it to build another. Even territory (if its in there and your alliance holds the required service) would take longer.
Is the maco event supposed to be cross-server? You wouldn't think I would be competing with someone from server 30 vrs server 719.
The kill FKR seems to be, though the rewards aren't scaled for it, and for some reason top four are all from my server.
@molten marlin How many points in battlepass are we supposed to have, after completing todays BP? I got 155k points, and todays event did not give me a new milestone
So, why did only 5k of the 10k points i got get added??
I really hate how Scopely scores events. I just advanced to Ops 31 and only got the 1st milestone for Ferengi Domination, 3rd milestone for MACO Power Grid, and 280 points for Building & Research Upgrade. If you go up an Ops level you should get full completion on all of those building/ power events. Period.
worst alliance tourny ever.. too many bug and rerolls are terrible
But if they keep turning out crappy events we will be too angry and forget what we were angry about to start with. No comms from scamley no compensation no improvements just more of the same pay to play and fleecing us. Sally likes to pee on us and tell us itās raining
Lemme ask
People have 160k. I only got 5k from todays event. Should have been 10k
so... I'm normally the first person to complain about stuff Scopely's done badly.... but... this time I want to say that although the MACO events could use some work, and I'd appreciate not having a Domination style event every few days....
The idea of putting a "Heroic" 5th stage at the end of an event is something I like.... So, kudos to whoever thought of that and whoever agreed to implement it. The work to complete the 5th stage could use a tiny bit of work (it seems a bit excessive right now), but the overall concept of making every SMS "Heroic" capable if you want to complete the final 5th stage, was a good idea -- while also granting META points for only completing the 4th stage if a player decides to stop there.
If you want to increase your numbers give us what we want. At the moment you are pushing people away. Is the plan to close this game? Then your plan is working. If you want growth then stop going for the quick buck or you will just p people off from all of Scopley
I can certainly say that If I go looking for another game to play and I see anything resembling a scopely logo, I will run away very fast (digit too)
I have 157.5K and I have done everything every day. There seems to be a lot of disparity in this if people have between 155K and 160K. š (OPS 56 if it matters) and that seems like a problem since if you missed something it would have been 5K or more... but to be missing 2.5K is super odd because the last milestone isn't 2.5K
nice fix on the gs31 beams, now working almost instantly, will help a lot now
Alliance Tournaments has really gone down the toilet since being modified to an update focused on profit recovery. The tasks, the points system, refresh tokens. The term "Premium" in this game is a false pretense for "Privileged" by Privileged meaning wealthy. Scopley gives the impression that Star Trek Fleet Command is now designed as a dependent for their more generic games and erroneous issues related to programming, along with perks and incentives for Content Creators and Multiple Account users. As a paying customer and player who enjoyed the game to a certain point Scopley has defiled The Star Trek Brand from my perspective. Definitely a Disappointment for the True Star Trek Fans and Hobbists that appreciate the real value in gaming.-reposted
PREACH!
Make sure Alliance Tournament Rerolls reset between Tournaments. We wouldn't want to exploit the system by having any left over from the previous Tournament.
done and done
wait i know, why don't we all just give scopely our credit cards, debit cards, and paypal accounts? Don't forget the CCV and/or authorizing info either. better throw in zelle just in case. 
Better remove the AT for good way better than reset it
one other aspect to this whole š© fest, is what it has done to the enjoyment and fun of content like the tournament. Over several months we have been teaching, learning and helping each other improve our results. We got to master league 2 of the last 3 tournaments. many in our alliance have pretty much given up, or are doing a fraction of the past tasks. We have fallen from the top to dead last this time. Demoralizing to say the least. The good news for scopely is they can now easily identify the monster spending alliances and maybe give them something on the side. or at the very least, target ad content more accurately. However, recent months have been following the classic playbook of companies closing the doors, much too closely. The new owners must need the money they borrowed to buy scopely much sooner and the breakup and fire sales could follow.
I didn't do yesterday, used 16 rerolls today, got nothing, and now back to doing nothing
Hope you like hitting 400 gorn for like 150 AT points and near 0 cred rewards!
You know, this is much less of a problem when we have some RE-ROLLS!!
Would be nice if they included new currency with those small tasks.
the alliance tournament changes are a bummer for me as a lower ops player. before, i could find tasks that would score decently by using the rerolls and frequency of appearance of decent tasks. the "revamp" stripped me of effective rerolls. this doesn't stimulate buying from me, it makes me second guess how i am spending my time.
Not much more fun for higher low ops players.
Question: if I opened a ticket regarding missing points for an alliance Tournament task, can I cancel / revoke that task and start a new one?
This is probably the wrong channel to ask this question š
My guess would be no, no idea if the support people can do that to begin with, and you'd have to get a nice one before reset if they can, so long odds. You could try, to further human knowledge.
I was somewhat hoping that there would be some universal corrections for event problems -- a few thousand open tickets are probably going to be less than 100% reaching satisfactory outcomes.
Good job
this whole thread should be in bug reporting š
So I've notice that we still have the Sarris Invasion Store in the event store and yet we are no longer able to acquire FATU-KREY EYE PATCH cause we no longer have the Sarris Invasion event anymore. So what is the point of having access to the Sarris Invasion Store without being able to acquire the FATU-KREY EYE PATCH.
I got hosed on a similar one last time, the 6k one, I think. Yeah, those are impossible to complete if everything in that faction is done and the ship is maxed.
What happened to the battle pass overflow event? I only see the Ferengi one...
Battlepass overflow was rolled into the pass itself
Err, I can only see a 90 broken parts for the vault now
It used to be 360 parts per arc if you completed the overflow. It was the only thing worth doing the battle pass events for me.
Without that, I really cannot be bothered engaging with any arc. Content gets worse and worse.
Iāve heard talk of an event later that will reward them , but yeah the battlepass isnāt really inviting anymore in its current state
Thank you for this neutral summary of the situation. I wouldn't have been able to do that myself š«”
There are 360 parts at the end of the daily login boldly go event
and there will be another event series later this month
Maybe shmaybe... Not going to care until I see it in game. Zero trust even if it's official.
And how do the brilliant game designers in Scopely think that will create additional engagement? Logging in and out isn't that interesting. For some reason, everything fun in the game is getting nerfed.
I burnt through 2500 sigma refresh tokens and every single 10k task was pay walled. brilliant update. AT used to be enjoyable. Seriously can't be stuffed with it any more and not far off calling the game quits
Can we end Alliance Tournaments early. It offends me to see it up and running.
Did you think noone would notice how you stacked the decks against anyone getting tasks they could do? Not only do you have far too many 10k and 20k tasks and too few slots for them to appear. You have way too many useless slots for tasks noone would ever do even as a low level...
And these are not the same tasks in a display bug, as they have slightly different requirements as wellā¦.
the continued silence from the Devs tells you exactly what they think!
<@&509690795536941056> are we just ignoring the fact lots of us are still dealing with empty task slot.
I am more and more thinking this issue was always there ... yet when rerolls were plentiful there was not an issue because people would reroll the stuff they did not like. Take away the rerolls and it exposes the issues in the code. Same with the spots without tasks.
This Alliance Turnament is broken and Billy in Accounting is the one who did not understand the economy and how punishing players would drive them away.
<@&509690795536941056> Another event that isn't counting correctly - I acquired 500 uncommon skill points and did not receive credit for them.
This is yet another task I can't complete. I know there were glitches in the old Alliance tournament - but it was better than this one.
And how did you acquire them?
that only scores from leveling the command center
and a meager amount from the titan daily
I wen't to the refinery and traded in parts for them
not how it works, or ever worked
had to wait for the stupid slow down to time out - Worked just fine yesterday when I completed a lower reward task that said the same thing
There are no lower tasks like that, the others are spend, not acquire
Like i said, the only way to complete that task is to level the command center, a small amount from the titan daily, or buy a pack
Wow - I'm glad you know what was on my screen yesterday and what I did or did not complete - Great for you that you're omniscient.
Also if the event is to level up the ACC - it needs to say that.
Has nothing to do with being omniscient, I know what the tasks are and how they work. It says acquire uncommon skill points, there are only 4 methods to acquire them in the game. Leveling the command center, each tier rewards a specific amount based on the level of the building. a tiny amount from the titan daily, refining uncommon transogen canisters (still not enough) and buying a pack.
He did this i assume... Thats a 30k to 1500 conversion.
Its also not the correct this
Theres a difference between skill points and credits. The rare refine is for skill points, this uncommon is for credits
For the last two days on a Mac and Windows install, This one AT task never populates. It's not a re-roll issue.
Dear Scopely Support Team,
in my opinion, the game has lost much of its original drive and motivation. PvP no longer feels rewarding, and even attacking stations is hardly worthwhile anymore. The amount of cargo that can actually be looted is far too small, while important resources such as Sigma-related materials are practically unreachable for many players.
This leaves me asking a simple question: what exactly am I supposed to do in the game now?
Many events feel overly complicated and difficult to follow. Please do not misunderstand me ā complexity alone is not the solution. Not every player is able to spend the entire day in the game or constantly study event mechanics and hidden dependencies. I play regularly, but I also have a real life outside the game. Because of this, many systems and interactions have become increasingly hard to understand.
You previously explained that Scopely follows the Star Trek movie and series lore. Honestly, I would suggest looking at those films again. In Star Trek, crews do not constantly have to be switched around for every single task. The current officer-management system feels artificial, exhausting, and far removed from the spirit of Star Trek. Instead of strategy, it often becomes tedious micromanagement.
At this point, I believe the focus should not be on introducing more and more new content while major bugs and balancing issues remain unresolved. Stability, clarity, understandable mechanics, and a better overall gameplay concept should come first ā especially one that average players can still follow and enjoy without treating the game like a full-time job.
Kind regards,
Commodore Hein Ennak
You would have been better writing that on some toilet paper and wiping your a r s e with it would have been more likely to make a difference, no one from scopely cares theyāve had years to listen to the players and change and fix things
the refreshes for the tournament are a farce, now we only get 8 a day and none from the tasks, a total joke considering the only tasks that kee refreshing are the cash tasks, so once again scopely scamming the players expecting them to put out hundreds in cash for a joke of a game,
<@&509690795536941056> is that a Joke?
No. Buy more packs.
The way things stand this looks very close to gambling. So many free spins then you have to pay. Very close to being illegal in many countries.
746 Million Lat to compelte it or 74 Million for Milestone 1 with Lat. I am since over 1 month 71, and nearly Half Repuration for Prestige 1. I cant even Spent Sigma Faction Credits. And i think many Fresh 71 have the same Problem
Wow, 2 ship upgrade events in 2 days. Someone must hate players there. š
Very bad event...seems very lazy
Spend latinum event... š¤”
326mil Lat to finish Interstellar Dominance today... Because this game is officially moving to Pay to... Do AT, Complete regular events, Compete, progress, succeed... I keep looking for reasons to keep playing, and Scopely keeps giving reasons to leave.
STFC is an inferior product at exorbitant prices. Itās my belief that they will never announce when this game ends. They will continue to create horrendous content that is next to impossible to complete without spending. Todayās spend Latin event requires me to spend 330 million lat. What G6 or higher player has that amount of lat?
I really believe that one day players will simply no longer be able to login.
That way they can take your money right up until the last day.
you guys must not have got the memo they changed the name of game to star trek paid fleet command the p is silent so its not in the regular title
Spend 1.77 billion lat to complete my event, you canāt make this s h. I t up even for heroic event thats ridiculous, typical scopely š©
Man itās crazy scopely top bananas need to sit down and decide if they want to save the game or not at this point.
i think i have a great idea: alliance tournament BP
would fit right in with the changes over the last several weeks
Gotta love it, spend 40 rerolls to see maverick credits, multiphasic, elite solo outpost directives, borg sphere parts and forge foundation over and over. Not a single F2P one
Great event, Ty
scopely ruins everything they touch. must be not selling enough syndicate packs . so went from a relaxing day of claiming syndicate xp or syndicate packs. to spending 132k latinum (ops 58) . they are the opposite of midas who turned everything into gold. they destroy every event.
what level are you?
š š š
how about waiting for them to actually send the token unlock?
Itās been over 30 minutes. And itās already in game
70, I pity the G7 players š
i could imagine the price of latinum for event if there was a level 80
Maybe have the content sent out with it already unlocked to avoid another UI hack⦠oh wait. That would make too much sense. This points back to the whole UI needs to be revamped and reorganized for a better UX instead of what my grandma did with all her crafts in her crafts trailerāstuffing things in random places wherever it seems to fit, but not make sense.
probably 10b-20b HAHA
Really badly designed events.
they at least have sigma faction credit spend to count towards it
So the "Defeat 2 solo epic armadas with Temporal Conduit chaos tech equipped on your ship" Alliance Tourney task doesn't complete when you actually defeat a solo epic armada with Temporal Conduit chaos tech. Scopely, we're getting really tired of doing your QA for you.
Need to be on the largest ship or only ship in the armada
Sigh. Thanks Arsenic.
<@&509690795536941056> Where are we meant to get the last 100 points for the MACO Meta? Was the Silent event at the beginning meant to have a Heroic, because it didn't. I don't think any on the first day did, because I remember the gold 'heroic' thing being new on the second. I also don't recall seeing any 'overflow' events.
Is someone on drugs over there?
I clicked the compensation button, but where it the extra battlepass? Didn't see a awards screen either.
Try the one at ops 66,
Hiding next to the Ferengi pass
Sooooo....will there be enough events to get the 80,000 bp points??
Are we meant to get BP points to feed into the bonus BP so that we can actually complete it and get all the rewards?
Okay, I see it now. The free pass doesn't take as many as the regular.
<@&509690795536941056> any chance to get an auto roll of tasks in AT after let's say 2 hours?
Classic bait n switch
<@&509690795536941056> so you gave out free battle pass to everyone. So what about us people who paid to unlock that already. Compensation or refund
separate pass
<@&509690795536941056> Not just me it seems.
congrats. youve sucked every drop of fun outta this bs alliance tournament.
Thanks for generous bonus BP
At least you have the bonus bp. It does not appear in my events.
same
Same
And now Scopley probably thinks itās all forgotten, but no ā weāll be watching very closely to see how you treat us, the players, from now on, and how things pan out for STFC
There are a lot of things that need to be sorted out; you know exactly what needs to be done. Scopley, show that youāre listening to the players and know what needs to be done. Get STFC back on track.
We wonāt forget update 90 any time soon, and weāll always judge you by how you treat us in the future.
And believe us if necessary we will remember you
I hope they have a plan š¤
Alliance Tournament Store Updates
Refits: U.S.S. Vengeance Liberator and Node-Infected Refit, and Hijacked G6 FKR ship refits.
But in Emerald Chain is only Liberator Refit.
Or what lvl is Node-Infected Refit?
New Battlepass is missing for me, even after clearing cache
not the smartest one right?
When did you score 10k Battlepass Points and unlock the first 3 Milestones with it
Just because you see the same amount of milestones doesnt mean they need the same amount of Points to unlock
I just hope in the next few days we get a ton more battle pass points to make up the milestone difference between the two passes
Or that. Slow mode is KILLING ME⦠ugh
lol...
Absolutely insane. Mine is way lower, but I donāt think I could ever spend enough lat ( excluding maybe massive, multiple ship xp? ) if I rushed 3 levels I wouldnāt been come close to my heroic.
you want mine ?
Change the AT rerolls back the new system is garbage to many tasks nobody does because they are not worth it
Has this always been a thing where lower Ops had completely different tasks than everyone else?? Are these banded now too????
<@&509690795536941056> another complete useless event that its impossible to complete and complete garbage ress output from it that its not worth to bother with it. Not even to check it šš . Very nice job keep up the good work
asking again, it would be nice if you could add the new legendary currency to the top bar in the AT store
free battle pass, what about the players that bought the pack = 0 compensation š©
Buying the pack has nothing to do with it, it's a bonus battlepass
I dont see it?
literally in your first screenshot
Already?? Released 4/28 iirc
congratulations Scopely, you have TKOāED Star Trek Fleet Command like TKO has killed the WWE. Bring on maintenance mode!
Oh so fantastic, i really needed these ones in G5. So good this is reward in the BP š«
<@&509690795536941056> What a terrible attitude towards those who bought the battle pass, it turns out we were left with nothing. Good attitude scopely, I wonāt buy anything else!!!!!!!!
Incorrect. Your purchase of the main battlepass has nothing to do with the bonus battlepass.
the bonus pass is under the season pass tab, the comp claim unlocked the elite track.
Completing the sms each day will give you the rewards
along with the main battlepass
So you are not left with nothing
Alliance Tourney is once every 4 weeks. 23 days isnāt long enough to fix it? Pause means in 4 months we get something about the same then are more mad it took 4 months to get āthatā. *** see arena and incursion for previous examples. ***
We should definitely get a ācare packageā store access and emerald chain advancement while ATs is on hiatus . But I bet we wonāt
New Alliance Tournaments are so retchedly cash grabby and a clear signal of $copely getting even more greedy. Ya know what? F AT - that's right, new AT gets the tag #FAT š¤¬
My thoughts about how tournament could have been expanded.
Everything that was part of original tournament should have been left as is: tasks, rerolls, task rewards (including the original rerolls), store, etc. Add the new 20K tasks which pay out the new currency (for the new items in the store) and use sigma rerolls. Since the original tasks and rerolls are in place the daily drip of 800 sigma rerolls capped at 4000 would have been okay. If there was a desire to remove the quantity of original rerolls in people's inventory have an exchange of 15K or 20K original rerolls to 100 sigma rerolls. This would allow for people to deplete their inventory of original rerolls of desired while preventing players from earning large quantities of rerolls in a tournament. The 15K-20K exchange would allow someone to earn 7-10 20K task rerolls each run of tournament.
This also wouldn't have been as big of a hit to the mid-ops f2p who are just starting to be able to do the original 10K tasks to earn the tech and primes that have been available over tournaments existence.
I'd be happy to answer additional questions if someone is interested in feedback.
Under 60 should never have SLBs that only reward top 5 placement
Ops 36 here. Got the token for the free battle pass in the gift section but I don't see the Casuality Battle Pass.
They can't even get it to display the OG currency reliably, trying to do that would just break something else.
@scopely your latest "GIFTS" stink....
i am sad that you will be stopping AT š
it's harder and more annoying, but with more refresh tokens it would be doable.
imo being able to do less for less rewards is still getting more rewards than losing access to the store and getting no rewards at all.
just hope they keep the store open so we can use our credits
Nah, new credits to go with the revamped edition of course. Gotta be anti player in every change they make, even when they say it's to be better
Alliance tournament: needs a thorough overhaul to be and remain fun and interesting for every player, regardless of their level.
Suggestions
- Bracket system; you will only see assignments that are at your level, with a margin of 5 levels below or above.
- The tasks automatically refresh after 15 min. With the option to manually refresh 12 times a day.
- Alliance tasks: work together with your alliance to complete tasks that give much higher points than individual tasks. This strengthens bond within your own alliance and sparks fierce competition among the other alliances.
- More opportunities to communicate with each other in-game to determine the best strategy and more.
- The top 5 alliances must determine who gets first place in an indirect confrontation; a final alliance task.
- Relegation candidates and promotion candidates must determine in a direct confrontation who gets spots in the higher division or not, a final alliance task
AT didn't need a whole revamp. It needed focused changes.
They really could have added sigma rerolls on only for 20k tasks and left the lower tasks to the same format as before.
This would have created more engagement, which in turn creates more spending.
It will also have encouraged more competition at the top of the Master Ranks, where the real spending happens. Those alliances have the big spenders who would have been more tempted by paid 20k tasks and keeping their alliance above the others.
Any of the big spenders that are practically the solo spenders for their alliances are also more tempted to take a 20k here and there to help their alliance place higher.
Having 20k tasks and terrible rerolls does not encourage spending in the lower leagues. It pretty much kills AT there.
With no growth or motivation for spending to get higher there are less coming up to challenge the top.
This change has stifled long-term competition.
The previous format showed lots of points being scored, lots of engagement, healthier competitive alliances and probably more spending across the board.
Having the exchange of old rerolls for new rerolls with the original sourcing for the old rerolls will prompt more F2P to engage with trying to get the F2P 20k tasks. This will prompt some spenders to pay for the other 20k tasks as they have more people competing against them.
Incentive and hope are needed to make smaller alliances compete with those bigger than them.
Smaller alliances challenging bigger ones is needed to promote competition.
Competition is needed to promote spending.
I propose that the old format is reinstated for 10k tasks and below.
Then have sigma rerolls for the new 20k tasks.
.
.
It was also unfortunate that so many other things were going wrong at the same time.
This AT format was not going to be as successful as the previous. Which has only been amplified by the current poor state of the game and the huge Battle Pass fiasco.
Oh battle pass š¤¦š» Something you release every arc, yet.....
Feedback: Another day of frustration with AT. Again rerolls are out and did not produce decent tasks for lower level ops. This is the first AT that I haven't done three events a day. Feedback: I appreciate the free BP and I intend to complete it, but it didn't fix my huge disappointment in the AT.
G5 weekend material spend event.... what the hell do you call waste of space? the rewards are a joke.
Y'all are drunk again, hey
@near saddle MACO event closes same time as the final round of SLBs????? Why the heII has that been allowed to happen again?? A lot of stuff wasted to gain a decent placing all for nothing,
cadre recruit feels bad because its bad RNG and ODT recruit events rewarded significantly more, giving us a choice of officer, and even if we get lucky we only get 20 shards of one of the officers, this time around all having very accessible sourcing through DTI or augment.
just run ODT recruit events until the ODT store expires please. or make these more rewarding. why isnt it paragron recruit? overall just very unrewarding and disheartening.
What a disgrace! Once again, for the final results of the interregional classification, they didn't add the points I was entitled to from today's SLB. They gave me second place, and based on points, I should have been in first. I hope this time they respond from player support, because they did exactly the same thing at the last event.
14 rerolls later and I cant get a alliance tournaments task I want or care to do. Now tell me stfc creator's, what incentive does a player have to buy rerolls if there are any players that might when you could burn through them like nothing and see the same garbage task over and over nobody wants. A feature that was cool, drove engagement now another thing i could careless about regardless of what new might be in that store.
So many have quit just on my server here recently because of these bad moves, some feedback.. each person you push out makes even more consider leaving or stop spending. Why spend when theres nobody to play with. A example of such players leaving that hurts. A good friend that has been with me from the beginning has had enough with the direction things took. Now we friends will have to boot and drain him . And has me thinking hard if its also my time
With love , a concerned 6year playerš please fix our game for the better ment of the players
regarding MACO events:
first of all I like these series, but it's really frustrating when on the first day the events don't go heroic (I thought it was intended, but later I had not enough points for the SMS).
and on the last day the leaderboards didn't count for the reagion LB. thats just silly.
This was supposed to be tied to my previous message
Hunt FKR event doest give g5 mats.s.. in G5. worth. Neither does the diplomatic climb.
In the Diplomatic Climb SLB are only 4* and 3* Mats for OPS 60 to gain, also in the SMS Klingon; Hunt the Romulans, Romulan: Hunt the Federation and Federation: Hunt the Klingons
have raised the missing g5 rewards
& what about the MACO event closing early?????
raised that earlier
Spent all my reroll credits for the day, got eight different "spend $100+" tasks, and seven of them were new additions to the task pool. I can't believe how shameless the Scopely execs are.
Please stop doing these
Thatās why you reroll the 8k tasks. We arenāt getting enough rerolls to do the 10k tasks ftp.
Nobody wants to do a spend event to win rng bases tokens, basically a gatcha game at that point and those are universally hated for sourcing. Just stick to spend event giving out more officer shards like it used to be, ideally without the inflated milestones if we can
I think the stupidest part of these new 20k tasks is, you're doing them to get currency to spend on items that you could just buy outright and save money and time outright, such a stupid model with no reasonable F2P tasks and no refreshes to work with no, especially since you diluted the 10k tasks with even more ridiculous paywall tasks. 160,000 Serene Squall parts, are you just completely out of your minds.
Thatās what I said!!!!!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£. Letās spend $500 to get an item that you could have spent $100 to get. Add to that, in all likelihood, the people who WOULD spend $500 are going to be people who ALREADY spent the $100 to get the item in the store when it first came out. I donāt understand how the people at Scopely canāt figure this stuff out. ššš.
I can't understand how you can afford to disgust your players with the game without questioning yourself. In fact you are making fun of our opinion, you continue to push for more and more money. You're literally ruining your game, and you don't care. Your eyes are bigger than your stomach and you don't listen to ANYTHING. Stop focusing on money, because you'll end up with a bankrupt game. LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS WHO PAY YOU!!
AT store still laggy and it clicked to exchange for something I DID NOT want. this is unacceptable in the current state of alliance tournaments
<@&509690795536941056>
Here is my issue with having people pay for rerolls:
- I have noticed in the last month or two of AT, the occurrence of the same few tasks kept coming up when you rerolled. Last month I went through like 75-100K in rerolls. I had NEVER gone through that many rerolls but I would reroll and it would take many rolls sometimes to get something other than the same three tasks recycling.
I donāt trust Scopely not to set an algorithm that causes the least taken tasks to come up more frequently in order to get people to go through their rerolls in hopes of getting them to buy another pack.
2). This set up is too much like gambling for me and it plays upon the people who may struggle with this and in such an insidious way. To me there is not much difference than putting money in a slot machine over and over again and pulling the handle in hopes that something good comes up and Scopely selling rerolls to people that they use in hopes of a good task coming up. When nothing does it becomes: āWell, let me buy just one more pack, see if I can get what I want.ā When you combine that with the fact that I am sure it is plausible that Scopely can set an algorithm that the least select tasks come up more frequentlyā¦ā¦Yeahā¦..Not good
Thatās just how I see it š¤·š»āāļø
this happened in our critical damage event before and scopely just ignored me. was 4 star 3 star
It's laaaaaaaaaaag. Have the same problem as well sometimes. If you see the same task after you rerolled you have to restart the game to see the new one. Laaaag its laaaaaag š
Well there is that one too but this was your would start with Syndicate, reroll and get Excelsior parts, reroll and get Syndicate, reroll and get Temporal Disruptors, reroll and get Excelsior parts, reroll and get Syndicate, etc and so on. (It wasnāt necessarily these tasks, I just used them for example)
Ya, itās clearly weighted rng
ALSO... show checked out tasks that others in the alliance have so you are not guessing on what will show up. I am not asking for Scopely to show all tasks available, just the ones checked out, so that players can make an educated re-roll(s) and not waste them on tasks that will never show up. <@&509690795536941056>
Another failure...create something like DUO waves to partner people together, but then set the SMS event up so that any points one partner gets are points the other can't. At least the SLB/ALBs are fostering co-operation...
that would be way too hard.
How else are they supposed to force players to buy packs to get more starts... remember, Scopely is not your friend, they're your drug dealer
you shouldn't be rerolling temporal disruptors anyways lol
Where in the heck are the 5* ore?????
For sure. 15k temporal disruptors is more than I ever had aggregated
I heard there is a way, but in some obscure loop
a drug dealer charges you less and gives you a deal on your birthday or for valued customers scopley just takes your money but doesn't bother to tell you they gonna change things in a week or 2 so that whatever you bought is useless now
This isn't fun anymore! Another 10k task is missing, and on top of that, I didn't get any points for the one 10k task I actually was able to complete. The Alliance Tournament has really gone downhill! Honestly, we should just ignore it completely.
lol - I wouldn't know. I never bought a pack other than regular BP...and the last one of those was Wraith of Khan arc.
Honestly we should get all servers to band together and stop playing and stop buying anything for at least 90 days, or until they fix the game, by listening to the players. They cut the desealing rods for f2p players down to 90. It was already hard enough collecting from every event, and every 30 day chest. It took months to open one treasury, now it will be years for the f2p players. Way to lose players scopely. once a.t. is over, I will not be logging in until they change things back and fix what has been broken since the games release. It's sad that this game still has the same issues it has had since it started .
Noticed an interesting occurrence.
When these two tasks pop up, they show up as 2 slightly varied tasks but always at the same time.
When one is rerolled, it's slightly altered counterpart disappears too.
Combat & Training Simulation event: on s31, virtually no one cares about this event or this whole arc for that matter. Ops72 here and I tried the weakest Duo Wave possible, died on wave 3. Even with that pitiful performance, I'm 2nd in SLB with only 300pts 𤣠. For the ALB, only 8 alliance have tried the Duo Waves and by looking at the scores, SEVEN of those alliance looks like they tried it once. I'd say you have zero enthusiasm for this arc's new feature.
Or your alliance mate rerolled it at the same time?
I havent even tried the Duo Wave yet. Partly because there is no training and no help or description of what to do. They just plopped this new mechanic down for us and told us NOTHING. So I kinda get what I have to do now after some tips from Jules Vern but, like, I'm not even interested in trying it out. This whole ARC and the last one too was just a big meh. After the new AT rollout I quit for 3 days.
I noticed I felt alot better not even turning the game on. Ops 70. $1000/month Canadian ($500 US) spending habit. Turned FTP a week ago and not looking back.
at last Incursion the participation level was that low that i could have scored 3rd place in the Incursion-PVP event by only killing one enemy ship. i didnt do that š¤
i know future AT is put on hold, but 2 of my 8 rolls today popped up the same exact must pay task that was rolled right back in the same spot, that must be changed. how the task being replaced is in the roll is a problem.
Screenshots are limited for info but you can still see enough to know it is off just by looking.
The last two pictures have both of the two tasks I have seen appearing like this, doing it at the same time, Class Honours and Signal Observatory Schematics. So there are 5x 10k pay tasks. The 20k tasks are also both shifted to the right when they should be to the left when there is the correct number of tasks(22) with none selected, (which there weren't in any of the screenshots). If a task was selected, the 20k tasks would be in the middle columns with a blank space in the bottom right corner.
I did also count at the time, and at the time they were taken, the first two screenshots have 23 tasks and the last two have 24 tasks, both more than the standard 22.
I also ruled out someone rerolling at the same time as I have noticed it has happened 5+ times with class honours and twice with S.O.S. The odds for a simultaneous appearance and reroll on these tasks to happen this many times is astronomical.
And add Transogen Forge Foundation to the list of almost duplicate tasks simultaneously appearing and rerolling away together when one is rerolled.
Very odd.
But also shows that these tasks must be in the reroll pool, which is ridiculous.
Scopely should show every task available, which pool they are in for rerolling and probability attached to them.
We need some clarity for peace of mind. Or is there fear of showing how terrible it is stacked against players?
yes they should, reroll is the worst thing about AT. gimbaling that rerolling will give you the task you want when it don't
And im sure the rerolls are tied to individuals accounts
My account has like a 90% chance of rerolling the exact same 2 tasks everytime
Someone elses has 90% chance of rerolling a different 2 tasks everytime
When I wanted a Epic Borg task in the past i always asked a certain person to reroll the tasks cos they always had it pop up.
My lot haven't tested rerolls linked to particular accounts. Interesting concept. I have a lot of questions about it now.
But quickly going back to showing what tasks should come up and rates can be an incentive device.
If players saw this information prior to the start of an AT, it would create event engagement before the event even started.
It would be an overall good thing.
Why did players have to figure this stuff out themselves, start saving and then have the goal posts moved to make it less achievable?
An easy one to use as an example is the Syndicate Xp. Takes a lot to get to the point on Syndicate when the old 440k points one became achievable for F2P. A lot of time and hard work topping SLBs in G3 & G4 to increase syndicate level.
It was then changed to 880k points, but there was an XP BP running,so you could collect it on the last day.
Then the XP BP shifted by one day and it had to be timed perfectly to still achieve it F2P.
Then the XP BP stopped appearing. So now the Syndicate XP 10k tasks sits there like an unwanted reminder of how things change.
I cannot believe that the missing 5* rewards for G5 players, in current faction events have been mentioned yesterday, in few hours after event reset, and:
- they are still unchanged,
- the problem is not even in known issues section.
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@molten marlin @full swan @near saddle Amy info on MACO RLB closing the same time as thie final round of SLBs? A lot of us had spent a heII of of a lot of things to get placings, or are you just going to ignore this like the last running?????
no
this was raised, but haven't heard anthing
#š¬-events-feedback message
Same as earlier, but now 20k tasks doing it.
We really need to see what Scopely has on their intended available task list cause something suspicious is going on.
The problem exactly. š„
I'd strongly recommend removing demotions in AT this go round. I had a 10k task not score that was clearly completed and collected and our current demotion battle is within 6k points between alliances. I filed a ticket yesterday morning but there's a 0% chance it is processed in the next hour. I know they are on hold after this but doesn't mean a tournament as bugged as this one with scoring should punish alliances.
Was just looking over the Alliance Tournament Store, what are the requirements to make these available? And why are requirements necessary to have access to specific rewards in the Alliance Tournament Store?
Those take Legendary Credits, so get out your credit card and get those $200 per Tasks done
Ahhhh... So Rewards for the Entitled and the Privileged aka Premium Rewards š¤£š¤£š¤š¤®
Vengeance SLB for ops 70 still missing
My alliance got demoted when we should have been promoted (came 2nd in expert).... 
Chance of a fix for that? Probably 0.
Not all of them. There are three that are f2p. Hard to come by any of them, but they are there š
That kept happening to me. Also, alliance members reported not seeing the same tasks, enough after clearing cashe and restarting the game. So much for alliance corporation.....
Why as a g5 player am I getting these g3 vaults?
It's not easy in the AT store to distinguish which one that requires the regular AT credit and the legendary ones due to small icon and a very similar design. Emphasis the ones that require the legendary credits (gold border, for example)
I have logged in daily but seems like my calendar doesnt agree
you're on track
no extra ciphers in the wave defence event tree interesting.
What
ignore, discord screwed up sorry
and it wont let me reply what i need to reply
Comme d'habitude, l'événement "amélioration des bâtiments" ne fonctionne pas et ne rapporte rien !!!
this event still is g4 prizes for g5 unacceptable.
No different for G6
Est-ce que quelqu'un va s'occuper du problème de l'event "amélioration des bâtiments " ? L'autre solution est de l'éliminer des events .....
Cela dit, j'attends la juste compensation de ce jour avec une rallonge concernant les 6 derniers mois .....
En précisant que j'ai déjà signalé ce problème, sans aucune réaction de la part de Scopely, le roi du bug
Et pour mettre toute l'Europe de bonne humeur, une petite mise Ć jour demain matin entre 6h et 8h (heure de Paris, Rome, Madrid, Berlin, Vienne, Stockholm, Helsinki, Berne, etc...)
<@&509691611903426561> Quick question for the content creators: were you actually told to discourage the players, or just annoy them, or what? On Ops 66, I barely managed to get through a wave 61 duo, and only managed to get anywhere at all with the help of 71, and then got a measly score for the EMS event? Guys, you really donāt understand your playersāāāā"
weird question tbh
You assume content creators are in service of Scopely? Most of us are players, just like you, that have to deal with the same stuff you need to deal with in this game š We're just at least trying to give information that's helpful, even though there's issues currently. It's not like we're unaware of what's going on š Watch our streams, join our discussions, get educated into what we know and then help along to make it better!
also, only to state clear that 'us content creators' are creating content about the game, not creating content for the game š
Just curious, what exactly do Content Creators do if not create content? Sorry if that sounds rude, I don't mean it to. I genuinely would like to know.
well we do create content. but i mean we're creating about the game, as in we're not creating in-game content (missions, arcs etc). I feel Greif might have mistaken us for Scopely employees who are thinking about the Arc, it's challenges and perks :). We're not designers (well, at least not in service of this game).
Good question though!
and how / what do we make ? We make tools, we're streaming on twitch/youtube (and discord) for example and all we do is to share what experiences we have about the game, with other players (and most of us hope it'll help you to get better!)
We do happen to get information from official sources too and use that to give even more/better information. Additionally, when stuff hits the fan, we're also trying whatever we can to get the word out, both to the players and the official sources. But in all, we're also just gamers with passion. With a goal to make and inform as good as we can, to help each other out, also in dire times!
thanks for this question @vestal cloak and I hope it made more clear what 'we content creators' do š
I'm sure Greif ment content creators AT scopely, the people creating the content for the game. Basically the game designers, not youtubers etc š
Thank you so much for explaining. I'm sure a lot of people have the wrong idea about what you do.
just the more reason to explain it more thoroughly š
Hey do we know why we getting more G4 mats than a G5 mats btw im ops 57
Because you donāt need them. Gotta think like Scopely does.
What a load of crap!
I seem to be shorted bp points in the regular (not comp) battle pass- 187.5k/187.65k points, not enough for reward tier 18 (trit/crystal). Anyone else experiencing this?
The new recruit events are very bad.
Anyone know if we getting spend event for officer depot tokens?
haven't seen one mentioned
Spend them all so they put out an event
It so you can build a G4 ship and scrap it for ... Oh, nevermind. They don't like that idea. š
Can't even get half the leader board filled. Stellar eventš
Whatever you do, spend them before the store disappears. After that they turn into RNG garbage
Is it just me or is this cadre recruit event really terrible? 320k cadre tokens for a terrible gacha and 10 sisko shards
Just asking before I ego compete with the rest of my bracket for this spend event
yes, it's terrible. just like last week's paragon recruit event.
C'est chouette de commencer la semaine avec l'impossibilitƩ de rƩcupƩrer coffres et rƩcompenses.....
Et la raffinerie ne fonctionne pas non plus...
I can give you a correction for that last part.
"Guys, I really don't understand content creators"
Fixed it šš
Its the best you can get right now, if you are waiting for events to spend materials. Will there be better ones in the future again? Nobody knows.
These are not the content creators you are looking for
Am I the only one who looks at these new Duo Waves and Surges and just feels zero desire to participate?
It seems like we're just getting repetitive, rehashed versions of old grinds, but now with arbitrary new damage mechanics. It feels like the developers have introduced so many buffs over the years that they broke their own game, and their only solution is to invent convoluted new mechanics that render old tactics useless.
Take the Orion V'ger hostiles, for example. They spawn every couple of days, and as far as I can tell, they are completely unkillable. None of the logic makes sense. Though I'll bet they'll have a special ship for that soon.
Even worse is the absolute disconnect from the reality of the player base. If you aren't a massive spender, you can't even start at the lowest tier of these new events. They invariably require a highly specialized ship, and the baseline difficulty is so artificially inflated that it's an immediate dead end for anyone not dropping hundreds of dollars.
Combine this with the total lack of in-game communicationāwhere we are somehow expected to scour external videos and newsletters just to understand basic survival mechanicsāand it's no wonder nobody seems to understand these events, let alone want to play them. Are these just destined to be another abandoned feature like the Arena?
Well people are still blindly trying to one up each other on the spend event. Guess Iāll just let them
There is no way that any 6* player in their right mind would want to pay $100 to open a treasury lockbox with 2*/3* ship parts and materials. You even putting that so-prominently in the interface comes off as you guys being desperate for players to make extremely expensive misclicks.
Iāve been away for the weekend, real life stuff, did 1 wave and Iām 6th in SLB.
Think it reflects the feelings of the players at this moment in time.
45 min to go in the Duo Waves ALB and this is the amount of participation we've had. Only four people in my alliance did a duo wave, so that's two duo waves. And yet, we're in 3rd place. If two people complete a level 61 duo wave, that would give them 1100 points each, so the bottom two alliances in this picture only ran one duo wave each.
havent tried the duo waves yet, but considering i can only do lvl 61 drones, is it worth trying? no ability to buy immediate gratification so its the slow road to success as usual .
there is only a limited amount of 6g and 7g players when compared to 3g-5g
Never ever do this type of officer event and token event store system again, as this "Cadre" event!
We making the task to get a token that gives some random officer shards from a pool...
And if we're very-very lucky, we can get another token to actually choose? (Also, 2 of the 3 officers from those are easy to get already.)
No way.
Encore un bel event...
Todayās events show you have learnt my nothing. Now you want me to hit several duo waves in lvl 70 systems when like most players I have to hit down several levels. I really wonder what your event designers are smoking!
Hein ?
I get it that CoJ is here to stay⦠but the same rewards as last week???
Wouldn't it make sense to sync up the FT/CT spend event happening today with the weekly FT/CT event? It makes sense to me.
Scopely, I'm ok with this event. I am, really. What I am not okay with is that I have to do it in blocks of 50 every single time. I click the view button, I press the + button, press the spend button. then go back, then press view button again. press the +, spend it. go back again. Over and over. I need to get 5M at 63k or 56K per pop. that for 80 to 90 times. I have the resources, just let me donate it all in go.
Another skipped event due to overturned hostiles. At ops 72 I can only complete 66ās (training 301) with a partner. #fail
@molten marlin what is the status of the missing bonus pass?
Wow the weekly Dominance is fun and I love it. But we were promised sourcing for the Sensor artifact via the Vger Bioships events and chests. You removed that for a weekly pay event? And the officer is ridiculous! We should have the newer ones, not a year old hack.
Same..Scopely has zero mental fortitude. 71 can't do 70s
Identical events and rewards from last week. Events that require the same things run on seperate days of the week. If you're making the game PAY TO PARTICIPATE, just say so we can all quit. You had all of last week with us saying we hate the events, they're trash, and the required hundreds to compete much less complete is driving players away. You ran Duo Wave events over the weekend. You're running them again now. At 200 sim codes maximum a day and 1400 required to do one Duo wave (Which are wildly unpopular and unrealistic in difficulty)... My suggestion is this: Create an Event Folder Titled. "There She Blows" which is exclusively for Whales so the regular player stops having to look through events that they cannot participate in, much less complete.
Just lost about 200k plundered cargo with no rewards. Please fix.
Calling it "Weekly Dominance" event is a misnomer. The title should be either, "Weekly Whale," or, "Supported Content 90% of Platers hate"
really , what a joke, lv 70 waves, really, we can't do lv 62 hostiles nevermind lv 70 waves, what a farce you are making of this game, a challenge is one thing, but an actual impossibility is an outrage
So the 301 kill wave mission is borked.. incomplete-able?
got 2x 20b ships and just survived a 61/62 wave, but actual hostiles, only get a couple of 62s, this game is a complete joke now,,,,,,,,,, it's as if they want the players to quit the game, so they can shut it down
just gonna save up the tokens.. no point in throwing them at this muck
It makes you wonder if the people on the VIP server(based on economic discrimination because you only get invited if you are a big spender) are like....hey give us more Scotty shards. šš
Belle performance ! 40 minutes pour mettre l'event. Changez pas ! Vous ĆŖtes toujours aussi bons š”
Interstellar Dominance back again this week -- I'm still waiting for support ticket response from some of the individual SLB and SMS events from a week ago. Is everything now "fixed" for it to be run again?
Nothing like the SSDD with these events
So⦠really SNW Scotty again? I mean, he is practically useless.
wow so back to back interstellar events. scopely really is trying to get people to quit
we had COA once a month and they do this once a week a total joke
It could be better if it wasnāt the same officer again. This is an error right???
not when i got screwed by scopely last week. i was first and spent high amounts to maintain first. and then scopely did 2x score for last event and gave all compensation and i was technically first but got 2nd.
Well, Iām holding out. Hope that they arenāt going to give us the same worthless office or two weeks in a row.
Inter-SELL-SELL-SELL-lar Dominance is back again this week... After you told us that CotA was ending just to replace it with this event.
Which by itself is fine, but to have it run continuosly is a bit much.
Meta SLB gives 1/3 of the officer shards it used to, too
We all know that itās much much worse they know itās much much worse. No one could be so confused as to think that this game is more enjoyable today than it was four months ago.
Unfortunately it didn't help and nothing had changed in the SLB and also not in the faction events yesterday. So we got in all these events 3* and 4* mats now š
<@&509690795536941056> are your event runners ok? The events have been the same every week so far, and the same daily event every day.
Tbh, better than having a forced progression Domination BP event in the rotation that had completely eliminated XP spending options in favour of requiring upgrading/doing buildings/research......
If I finished the BP event and didnt get the next step in the BP rewards, should I enter a ticket? <@&509690795536941056>
A tech spend event on a Monday? A heroic no less. So I have to choose between this and Tech Tuesday.
How do you complete the task "Baited Hook -ALB"
it was announced several weeks ago that the Mid-Ops Battlepass event would be the same every day going forward. Trying to cut down on the required game time for newer players so they can spend time learning about any other loops/mechanics instead
Seriously, this is supposed to be WoK Scotty right? We arenāt seriously getting the same officer again????
While I wonāt argue that it makes it simpler for the event planning, the daily events were never a time suck for me. This just makes it dull, esp since you guys so rapidly obsoleted g4 and then g5
I've heard that from a few players on my streams as well that having the same daily event takes some of the fun away. Hopefully if enough people say the same thing they may change that in the future
thanks to domination monday ... no more mining
don't worry now that they've moved to 61+ for content they gonna obsolete g6 here in next few months
Why is there no ore in the treasury? Only gas and crystal.
Just wanted to give you a little more feedback on the Academy and how utterly useless it is, ESPECIALLY at g7.
I get 2 tokens a day.
Building is level 10.
Enterprise E is 62 billion (T11, 3 components shy of T12).
I can kill a single level 68, or 4-5 level 66.
66 drop 300 merits (600 survey), 68 drop 1200 merits (2400 survey), so killing 1x68 is the same as killing 4x66 - my loot is doubled due to bonues so 600/1200 and 2400/4800 is what I actually "take home".
I cannot kill 69s. With a 62 billion power ship. When I should be killing 71s as that's my ops level.
This means, assuming I get lucky and hit 5x66, AND I leave my ship there all day to just get respawning surveys only, AND I use both tokens every single day religiously, I can tie up a single ship for many many hours to kill 10 mobs and bring home 12000 training merits.
It costs me 216,000 6* training merits to get enough to convert to 7* to do a single chest pull, which nets me 400 7* training merits.
With this 400 7* training merits, I can get:
600 Academy Engineering Credits
With 600 Academy Engineering Credits, I can get:
636 Simulation Codes (cost is 1200 to do a single duo wave)
OR
384 - 1380 Class Honors (1380 assumes I hit the mythical max pull of 230 on all 6 chests - in reality most will be the minimum 64 pull)
OR
260 Enhanced Section 31 Transmitters
OR
a random pull where I might get a couple hundred UC g7 of a single type.
To math that out for you in the event that you don't want to bother, that means that every EIGHTEEN DAYS at the BEST, I can get half a duo wave OR at lower levels 1-3 levels of the Campus (at higher levels make that a fraction of a building level not even worth calculating) OR less than half of the lowest level building upgrade for the Facade (60-61 takes 540 transmitters) OR less than the amount of mats I get from a single daily mission.
Remote Campus and Drones/Academy are absolutely dead on arrival content.
because they figured they can make extra money by making you buy a pack after unlocking the treasury key from a pack ya know 2 packs for 1 thing it's scopley tactic 101
The Wave Events are absolutely brain-dead for my level... I get you're forcing P2Play on us... But at least be subtle about it... Absolutely no chance an Ops70 can take on the Duo70 waves and get all 4.
Well even with better sourcing the new content is DoA since the rewards are insufficient (mostly a self fullfilling prophecy for the loop with very little on top) and the mechanics involved are just bad. I don't like waves (or group content) and we don't need just another hostile to daily grind. What we actually need is a new ex-borg style hostile to consolidate VGer, Faction, Training probes etc.
Yeah the math really ain't mathing on the Academy arc... I have to refine 94,000 things... And I get 5 per kill... And about 20 per trip... Which means I've given up trying... For this refine...
Usually there is a way to grind these things if you spend enough time... But this just simply isn't possible.
The kicker is the building to make this easier isn't upgradable without doing the loop... But you can't do the loop... So it's just not getting done.
Ferengi Event Feedback: Please put Relitivity ship blueprints in this store. Itās been out way too long. And I could use another. Please. š
Hey Scopley we need 2 more Borg Conquest armada starts each week to finish the Maverik SMS. You used to include them in the battlepass.
Missed the memo? Scopely will no longer be awarding anything in passes or events that can help with current events, or any items they feel they can charge for. Wave pass no longer awards wave starts... No more choice Tokens... Hope this helps you understand the current direction. $$ is required to compete in or complete all current and near future events.
I'll be honest i didn't even try to kill or do this arc. I waited for alliance members to do it tell me how frustrating it was with them being stronger than me and was like yep nope ain't gonna happen for this guy rofl
ya the game being free to download is the only thing free in this game
Electricity and/or a phone plan ain't free!
Sorry, been that day š
I suggested a while ago that they allow players to type in a quantity larger than 50 for sliders, that way neither a simple misclick nor lag can result in players making huge expenditures and players can skip this tedium, but never received a response. I don't know, it doesn't seem like it would be terrible to implement nor require extensive testing.
They don't test anything anyway... So scratch that from the list of requirements
dude that's everyday for me man I catch myself sometimes joking about ending it because it'd be free than my sister just smacks me saying naw cause she'd be paying for it rofl. But ya nothing free in this life someone is always paying somehow.
It's even worse than this at lower levels... here's the leaderboard for OPS 61-64 on my server. I went in solo, unable to even clear the first wave, and just hit enough hostiles so they couldn't kill the center in wave one. Spent all my entrance "codes" doing that and got second place, solely because Scopely tricked everyone into wasting an entry on an earlier event that I didn't have time for that day (the guy who got first had a score of 300 a couple hours beforre the end, so even there it was almost certainly a last minute carry).
Not only you make academy refinery loop almost impossible to do but even if one manages to pull that stuff once in three days, I need to look forward to rng pulls for building parts. Don't remember you ever included rng mechanics for building parts, so what someone with better luck will have higher building level?
How 60s feel about academy loop is exactly how 50s still feel about outpost loop ( but academy sounds worse I guess) Canāt get anywhere. New Borg and Vāger were ruff in the beginning but slowly getting better.
Is this scoring for everyone? I just completed a duowave and these aren't completing
Did you do the right duo wave?
what's the right one?
oh apparently I had to do a 70 or higher. I did a 66. I'm sure 70 is going to be super fun as a guy that hit 70 a week ago and only has a T9 Krencha
um.. why did the FKR task on the bottom change to Augment? there's still almost 90 mins left before the refresh
It's most likely an interceptor treasury, they swap ship types for every one of them. They still give all the ship parts but the mats are specific. Have you never noticed before now?
That bug happens every week
Because STFC can't hire competent programmers
<@&509690795536941056> how is this acceptable? 318.9k of a currency that you've all but admitted is dead.
what a freaking joke 1 latinum for 400 xindi scrap that took hours to grind... one more nail in the coffin
I usually only check the treasury when officers are around. But I took a closer look now because I desperately need ore. Since this treasury always has all the ship parts, I never noticed that it's specifically for interceptors. I think that's incredibly stupid. You could just put the ore in there too. All the other materials are there, after all.
It changes
And as your frustration builds, Behold!, a specialty ship in arc part 2!
I for one will not be getting it...
what if its the athena and it doesnt take up a dock because its a building ?
Yep, unfortunately. I've never seen such a greedy company in my life. I have, but just not in the gaming sector.
Yeah, pretty soon we will need packs to open all our refinery chests. I have been close to quitting the game, but, like a car crash, I'm mostly likely going crane my neck and stay to see how bad it gets until they pull the plug on this bug filled š© show that used to be an enjoyable game.
@near saddle can you help? Still not fixed
Still waiting on the comp chest here ...
And don't even think about handing it out to everyone indiscriminately. So many players have already been penalized for this battle pass because of ābadā timing.
it's being worked on, and it's not being sent out indiscriminately.
@near saddle @full swan
Can someone assist? Ive got a ticket open since sunday with 0 reply about the bonus battle pass not showing up.
And the ticket is saying it will be 5 total days before they get to the ticket... thats 5 days of not being able to earn battle pass points towards it.
Ticket# 28492702
@storm ridge
These rewards dont seem right. If the duo waves worked like EVERY OTHER wave defense then it would be fine as the top rewards would be 1 full start. But duo waves cost more to start and this is only awarding 1/14th of a start?
It seems to me like there was a breakdown in communication. The event designer wanted to include 1 start for the duo waves and then whoever programmed the rewards just defaulted to 100 since that is the cost of literally every other wave defense.
<@&509690795536941056>
What logic is behind yesterdays todays event Advanced Command Protocole under Interstellar Dominance wants u to use up all our PFT CT FT and in just a few hours todays event is Tech Tuesday! ???
That one has been that way since lunch. But since there's no Prime for it, there's also no fix!
@near saddle @full swan Can you please give an answer as to why the last round of MACO ended the same time as the RLB???? No-one received any points for the final round of SLBs and have wasted all the resource used to get placings in them. As the RLB has now paid out will you be re-imbursing all things spent for absolutely no gain from it??
<@&509690795536941056> Hi, Still Missing the Free Battle Pass. Even submitted a support ticket. How do i get this fixed?
maybe today, let's say tomorrow, or better the day after tomorrow or never
Please explain what Scopely meant by promising more Alliance centric events, but not making those Alliance events for ALL members. I'm the Admiral of my Alliance, but I dont have this Alliance event my lower Ops have. This isnt the 1st time either.
How are Alliance members supposed to work together as a team, when they dont even have the same ALB events?
The Maverick tasks for OPS 55+ exclude many of my teammates. Its frustrating for them that they cant help with those AND they have ALB events that we "higher" lvls cant help with and have no visibility on. I cant encourage or track events I cant see.
These disjointed "Alliance" events by OPS lvls does the opposite of what your previous promises of more Alliance centric events.
<@&509690795536941056> Please share my feedback to whom ever is in charge of these events.
the whole stick to their alliance event way of thinking is everyone in the whole alliance is the same ops range then y'all can do whatever event they run. The problem of course with the way acopley thinks is not everyone is the same we never have been since the dawn of time. Yet in their vast wisdom they think everyone playing their games have the exact same goal they can't wake up and smell the roses and see their own negligence is killing there gamerbase they need to hire some actual players so they can make events the actual players will engage with
I don't have any feedback to share, unfortunately we're not being listened to, but I want to point out something really annoying: I understand the special attention paid to security, to prevent theft or sale of accounts, but the login method has become real torture, it's not possible to force players to log in in token mode via email, I have 3 accounts, and even if I use them on different devices, password access to the web page has been disabled, in addition to the game becoming almost a job, now even access to the login? .... I think I will close the other 2 accounts level 51/52, forced by developers who are not capable of making access safe without damaging the players.
Scopely doesn't care .. they just label stuff as Heroic and everyone just has to basically ignore 90% or more of these events now
Interstellar dominance it's somehow weekly COTA Lite edition??. If it is how we supposedly get so much rss to score in it . Or players to have already maxed those how will they score in this events??
overload on duo wave events with garbage way of sourcing the directives. and no, not paying for them. you have learned nothing from the past couple of weeks.
And every week! Once in a month sound acceptable but every week??
<@&509690795536941056> remove this garbage weekly event or lower the goddam milestone requirements by a lot, then it would be ok
Terrible lag in killing hostiles 178.
Another day, another demand for players to spend $$ to compete, and spend even more to complete style events.
Are the majority of your players Chase Bank, Goldman Sachs, or shareholders in Nike? Maybe Walmart or McDonalds? Wait, that's right. You sold Majority ownership to Saudi Arabian Oil Barons...
Most people cannot, and will not, spend the exorbitant amounts your asking.
Dang...paragon recruit event has the same 3 officers there as last time
The AT store needs to stay open after the end of ATālike the same amount of days the actual AT runs. Closing it 2 days after is BS!! <@&509690795536941056>
Hmm interesting thing this garbage events are reworked in a way just to excuse the remove of COTA. And isnt in the database šššš
<@&509690795536941056> also is this garbage interstellar dominance meta now the only sourcing for the ilias vger sensor??? What happend to that monthly vger species event
I donāt know how you expect people to do the duo wave events when lag is this bad
spend academy distinction for research, from where for where and for why, since nothing is to be found except for the stupid event
wait there's events thats not heroic oh ya think they call those battlepass events and the daily reputation events.
I absolutely hate your new system for acquiring new officers. Instead of unlocking the officer, Iām at 89/120 after winning my slb.
This arc shows how much you hate your players.
Another week without schedule? why?
They don't want to commit to stuff they know is broken š
with all this lag all events are a waste of space, as is this game in the current state, and a state it is!
Loving how the points aren't consistent..... Like how is it different?
It seems to be that "Academic Distinctions" is the name of a new prime you can buy in the STFC store. It's part of the "BONUS DRONE LOOT" pack.
The Maverick solo tasks are insane. One would have to be on and playing the game 24/7 for a week to complete them, or spend thousands. Nope.
As with every new ridiculous loop and refinery from the new Augment area on, they make the events completely overkill, like killing thousands of hostiles or 30 waves will somehow endear us to their new content.
Nope.
Not having even a remote chance of completing an event doesn't give me FOMO to where I want to spend. It just makes me log off and do something else.
After thousands of complaints over several months, $copely still follow the same, ridiculous formula that's making people quit the game in record numbers.
tbh I'm happy scopley is doing what they're doing rofl. They are making it so easy to convince everyone playing this game to wake up. Now this could mean to keep playing but be smart about it could be that they should leave or quit could be to spend way more money than they normally do. The actions scopley is taking is a reminder to any person paying attention that they have a plan and that they ain't listening to us at all. This is a wake up for us so that we really shouldn't complain anymore due to following along on a leash. We need to decide what to do just as scopley has.
Serve 76 lost two more ops 72 players. Because they wonāt merge us. So when is it happening. Iām ops 70 and questioning things
thats my points in a Event where I dont have any chance with ops 64 because its not possible to getting any token for the new wave because there is not much loot to open any cheast or you need to invest 99⬠for the Buliding my new acaddemy is still level 5 not more because I will play for free until the bugs lags and some problems are gone
I think the best vid would be cms trying to finish these heroic events on unaltered accounts. Would be classic.
im not here to hate but like if you gonna run events using the event store make it work please because this is anoying also before your like oh your just a low level its an ops 54 account
I'd say time to forget thw game and look at any other game company for your fix it promise your r.o.i. will be 1000% better that this game
ya they don't know what that means as they prolly get anything they want once they signed on that dotted line
Looks like you posted the same ss 4x
True words. They have definitely shown who they are with this current nonsense.
Look closer at the green numbers for scoring
60, 57, 65, 58
It's very inconsistent in the points earned, meaning that you are not actually getting correct scoring for the event itself. The point I'm making hypothetically is if it works correctly for one alliance instead of all alliances then the one it works for correctly has an advantage over the rest.
Ah ok. Sorry those werenāt highlighted so I missed it
oh wow... just saw the fine print regarding the duo waves event... engaging in training or combat sims below your ops lvl ""MAY NOT" count???? where is the stat/chance of whether or not it would be awarded? these duo waves are already difficult as they are, it is almost near impossible to finish a duo wave at your ops level <@&509690795536941056> hope you guys are aware of this.
The token to start the/participate in duo waves are way too sparse. Couldn't do any of the events for the last 3 times.
I was able to get my building to level 7 within 24 hours free 2 play, it's been weeks now. And it's absolutely possible to get more building mats and tokens for the stupid new waves, you just have to go kill an absurd amount of Academy drones to get the pulls for them. Not saying it's fun, I hate this new arc, but it is certainly possible. And I was also Ops 64 when this arc was released, am ops 65 now though, but basically the same as you.
this is exactly why I haven't even bothered with these events. The Duo Waves are not fun, and are way too confusing, and unless you've forked over many hundreds of dollars for the Academy building, it's impossible to do them at your ops level. Even the Academy drones scale up WAY too fast. Level 61's are like 5 billion range, then level 62's are from 90-110 billion range..as an Ops 65 I can kill 200 61's on a hull, or one single 62. And I'm supposed to do the Duo Waves at level 65?? Give me a break. And these waves are the only way to obtain the new officers too...terrible arc all around. Even worse than the Academy show itself!
Which SLB had the new officer?
I'm ops 72 and can't even hit the level I need to score anything.
I really hope you find a way to speed up aquisition of the borg sphere. Waiting until November to unlock for this loop is ridiculous.
Look on the bright side, by the time you get the sphere, they might have most of the bugs worked out. š¤£
or ya know the game will be in permanent vacation mode as they will have made ev1 quit
If it does go into maintenance mode, the 1-2 devs that will still be working will have plenty of time to update the underlying code.
I don't see why you wasted your time creating Duo waves content instead of spending that time on fixing the game
No one is going to buy starts to do these waves
They are 2 difficult to waste starts with random people
And the free path takes so long to gather enough for 1 start
And why cost 1400 directives to start one. why not keep things simple and have it 100 directives like other wave type.
A prime example of how out of touch Scopley are with the game
The 1400 cost is just wild to me. Why change it from every other wave? This is 4th iteration of waves and the first time the cost is different from the other 3. Sure they all use different currencies, but the base cost was 100. Why change something that worked and was simple to understand?
Not even that is so overwhelming that you have to grind over 300 hostile in order to get enough pull to get 200 directives per day and in the past 7 they posted 4 damn event for duo waves that you can not even participate. Great Job Scopely! Extremely smart on your end!
Don't worry, you can always buy the USS Athena next month to make the new loop easy
As long as you also buy wave directives.
@near saddle @full swan Still waiting on an an actual answer on this.
you'll prolly be waiting awhile as since April the time it takes to get responses from them even when pinging has increased dramatically might get a ticket resolved sooner lmfao
game is a casino now
Stop giving that trash tokens as rewardš¤Ø
Not the rss tokens, i mean that red token
Release the calendar of events for this week
Cadre Requisition Tokens are so useless they decided to not even provide somewhere to spend them, the Event Recruit in the Event Store is for Paragon Recruit which uses a completely different currency.
Events in the past 3 weeks are all trashes, bring back CoTA and Choice Token
Interstellar Dominance yesterday= Research
Content Scheduling, "We have a great Idea!!! Let's run another event that takes the exact same Rssearch Materials yesterday's event took! That will totally make them want to spend money on top of the thousands we've already tried to get them to spend in the last couple weeks!!"
what's the deal with points here?
Magnifique l'event "vagues" qui, comme en s'en doutait, ne fonctionne pas normalement. Et je ne parle même pas de l'event "vagues de drones" où il faut être minimalement niveau 80 pour parvenir à en faire 2....... ou avoir dépensée 1000 balles en carte de crédit....
Et comme ce jeu "gratuit" coƻte une fortune, le minimal attendu de la part Scopely, c'est du respect pour les joueurs. A bon entendeur....
Did anyone get the wave event today?
Thanks, no event here no matter number of restarts and cache clearing.
thank you sir
The duo waves events are highly unbalanced. I can never reach the last milestone in the sms (far too less token available to start 6 or seven waves) and for the second event i have to finish 4 rounds of a lv70 duo, although i am only able to kill 67 atm (and my building is already 31). But hey, my fault, as i do not have the Veng already.....
Why don't events count when I kill enemies?
day 2 paragon recruit event store open, no paragon recruit event
I think you're more likely a player who's already sunk thousands of euros into it; I die after 20-30 level 61 drones. I can't even manage level 62 with buffs.
so, was the battlepass supposed to be 500 pts short of any rewards today
I can up my OPS to 70 now, but realized, that this won't even be enough to reach the first milestone for your interstellar dominion event 𤬠Are you serious Scopely?
you want us to grow up but we get absolutely nothing back? Not even a good place in SLB?
so how many frigging starts do yall expect people to have?????
So habe ich es beendet: Ich habe zwei Waffen an Mein Reliant aufgerüstet und event war fertig.
This many
Ich kann meine Reliant nicht mehr aufrüsten. Dann dazu brauche ich Epic Teile und diese Zählen nicht
the DuoWave rollout has been poor, and the events that come along with it are difficult for this Op70 to finish, can't imagine an ops61. Maybe that's why no one is bothering to do them accross many servers...
Three weeks ago, without fanfare or announcement, Scopely introduced something good, needed, and appreciated: A Battle Pass for Ops 10-19. On behalf of all G2 players, thank you. Please make it a regularly recurring thing.
Oh, das ist schade. Nun ja, es sind nur noch die Feinde übrig, aber du hast noch Zeit, das Event endet in einem Tag.
Das Problem ist, dass auch die Feinde nicht zƤhlen. Hab schon alles versucht. Aktiv und passiv.
Weder bei der Dountless noch bei der Reliant zƤhlen keine Punkte wenn ich Feinde schieĆe
I hate this broken game. Iām trying to do duo waves. But every time I run into problems where I canāt target hostiles. I get a spinning wheel or I canāt select them. And the counter breaks too. So, even though I have finished wave 4 when I had one time where I didnāt have trouble targeting, every other time the game breaks and I canāt target. FWIW, I have great WiFi. But Iām still getting yellow and red warnings. What is the point of interesting content if the game is to broken to play!
Why, oh why IN THE WORLD are there 1 hour cooldowns on these two events??? Take them off.
because its has chanced rewards, for points you can spend without cooldown in another option right from those š
back those days battle passes for OPS 20 and below were the standard.
and always should be...
but anyways thank you Scopely for doing something right (once). š
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@molten marlin@queen kindle@rough spear <@&509690795536941056> its been 3 days and missing BP points are, you guess it, still missing
that's actually around what you should be at
so why is that some in my alliance have more?
BP events give only 10k and i havent seen any addition to myscore since some went missing
asked in my AC and some have 220 000, the correct amount
its Scopely fault for different overall point numbers in current BP:
it was possible to claim the first milestones multiple times for players that were online at that time before Scopely was able to fix the scoring.
the result is: players currently have different scoring on BP even if all of them did everything similar.
There's an internal thread on it atm.
for example i have 218,5k right now
the first time I saw battlepasses was back at ops30. back in those days we only had events and doing dailies and for the most part we were happy. As for the economy my friend started playing this game 2 years ago he quit after 4 months from boredom but he never spent and in a 4 month period went from ops1 to ops30. Now I'm nkt saying anyone playing is being slow or anything just saying that nothing when you are that low in the game takes you very long to do so having an arc for below ops20 would be a waste in my opinion even if I was to start over today I'd still consider it a waste but thats just me.
because you can sometimes complete extra if leveling ops after completing one
im still missing 5 days of the bonus BP milestone points ... and CS do not comp after events end historically. i really want to push fr a comp ASAP
i dont want to wait 3 years again like a Mantis Comp
you mean the mantis comp that scopley has no intentions of ever doing right....
Whoever calculates event rewards needs to be shot.
This is 1/5th of my free daily claim (the one directly from the syndicate, before any refinery, faction stores, or gift boxes!) for a multi-day SLB. This is insulting.
Do you want to kill off player engagement? Because this is how you kill off player engagement.
I was not able to claim yesterday. Not happy since I payed for mythic pass
Not even started and the rewards already trashes
yeah that event was GREAT
Jeu à nouveau complétement bloqué à l'ouverture des récompenses !!!!
Jeu bloquƩ si l'on veut aller sur la raffinerie !!!
English please
Tu n'as qu'Ć traduire....
Et c'est sympa de pouvoir prendre indéfiniment les mêmes récompenses. Pas certain que ça compte pour quelque chose...
@obtuse hull DƩconne pas mon gars, le client, c'est moi !
I dont know what your saying your in French
Translate. I'm the consumer !
Du coup, shadow trucmuche, ne répond plus aux clients qui doivent expressément fait l'effort de formuler leur requête en anglais, Magnifique le service de Scopely !!! Vous méritez super bien vos salaires ....
The Continuum Pass awarded a bunch of Frontier Event Store Tokens, but there's no Frontier Event Store. How do I spend these?
They don't even listen to English, why you think they would listen to people like you using not Englishš
I just love these impossible Heroic events that require serious spending to be able to complete. Hard pass. No matter how much we complain, $copely still puts that š© out.
Haben Sie jemals versucht, die feindseligen Borg-60er anzugreifen? Sie befinden sich in der NƤhe der Eclipse-Flotte. Ich zeige Ihnen ein Bild ihres Standorts.
Thanks, Scopely. I know it's my fault for not checking, but really?
Was haben die mit den Events zu tun? Die Feinde jage ich tƤglich wegen den Tagesaufgaben
Yeah 3 69 won't do it, I ran two then stopped, maybe tomorrow I will finish it maybe not.
I did 8 of the 60's. It would be fair to round that to completion.
Ops didn't checked your score event, if you early g6 try working toward 62s
Yeah, I should have done a 62, but when I finished the first 4, I saw it's at around half and thought another 4 will finish it. I forgot how sneaky Scopely is.
Ja, da du das Event nicht durchführen kannst, nun ja, ich denke, du zerstƶrst es, vielleicht zƤhlt das ja für dein Event.š¤
Ich muss mit der Reliant Augment Feinde killen. Und diese ZƤhlen nicht.
Genauso wie die Gruppierung Feinde
Nun, dir bleibt nichts anderes übrig, als gegen stärkere Gegner zu kämpfen. Ich habe Level 59 bereits abgeschlossen. Und was die Verbindung angeht, nun ja, ich habe nur zwei Waffen aufgerüstet und es dann auch schon beendet, schade. Ich hoffe, du schaffst es noch.
Das werde ich nicht mehr schaffen. Ich bin Ops 60 und soll seltenes Material ausgeben. Das kann ich aber nicht mehr, weil die Reliant nun Epic Mats braucht.
Been 2 and a half days and no reply whatsoever from anyone. On my ticket or otherwise...
Ah, jetzt verstehe ich es besser. Schade, dass diese Spiele nichts kƶnnen. 
Got stellar
Was the event scoring for the building SLB screwed up and not awarding enough points for the Outpost building?
Can any Ops 66 or above players confirm if the Borg Sphere parts pack still includes the Chaos Tech? Thanks
they changed it this go round to just rares scoring
ich befürchte du wirst auch hier ignoriert genau wie vom support
die jungs in gelb sind tagelang auf tauchstation und wenn sie mal hier schreiben, dann seeehr selektiv rosinen rauspickend worauf sie gerade antworten
anpingen hilft auch nichtmehr, wird klassisch ignoriert
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ich habe von einem einzigen spieler hier gelesen, dass er erfolgreich war indem er seinen cache geleert hat und dadurch sein bonus kampfpass auftauchte. kannst das mal versuchen, evtl hilft es
I attempted that and it cleared away my active support ticket, and still didn't bring the claim back or make the pass show
<@&509690795536941056> why does the heavy hitters SLB only have 3*& 4* material rewards for G5 players?
raising it
We seem to be missing event tickets
raising
thats easy the longer they dont give us rewards we should be getting the longer we stay the ops we're at unless we rage and buy packs which is scopley's m.o.
Advanced curriculum event milestones a little too high considering the rewards per milestone needs adjusting I'm not spending all day doing this don't like this Arc anyway!!!
learned nothing from last run, have we ? 332 mil lat to spend ?
This last few weeks of events are so boring with trash rewards. After removing the great events like CoTA etc. and Battle Pass Choice Token, i barely play because the events just too much grind with bad rewards, it's not worth the time
Everyday just doing daily, this game became one of those Click Simulator Games
Is the duration correct? The last two events ran for 48 hours. This one only 24 hours.
The last one was for 24 hours the one before was 48
They found out that 48 hours was way too much time to grind 24,000 training mats for a single chest pull while getting 24 per kill.
The Academy Drones (Heroic) event? Or other events of the SAC event series? I think the Academy Drone grind was 48 hrs.
It was the one where you had to start new waves and score by hunting hostiles(Venari and drones)
Hard pass for me since to finish this event you would need to run wave 70 and compete it
Any update on the lack of 5 * rewards?
Didn't join for the better of my alliance do to the question if I had stelar or not and the old man needed rest smoke and drink lol
So didn't do armadas just all rest
Plus believe i was just putting a picture on my discord page not posting lol
nothing has changed last week when I raised it for the faction events, where were also only 4* and 3* mats in.... and it seems the last weeks heavy hitter SLB had also only 4 and 3* mats in....
Don't know why we should push in this events for this rewards
haven't received any responses about it
Anyone else have issues with collecting completed Maverick tasks? Such as resource redistribution solo? For over the past 2 weeks I've completed tried to collect and got nothing and still shows completed...
Ok Im calling utter BS on this. Did you guys also break Away teams or is this stupid math on purpose and you thought nobody would notice any changes made. The two LARGEST T5 max stated officers the mission needs, are worth 66% and 65% by themselves. Throw a T4 Tpring in and she's 40% with all the stat boosting 4 FCs can do we get a classic, Scopely-math 96%. I KNOW I've done this before and been OVER 100% It's this kinda stuff when you move the goal post and think nobody will notice that really contributes to why people get aggravated about the direction of this game. On top of all that, I did a mission before this that would previously finish easily but was now only a 92% chance of success, failed of course. This is the only game I know where an 8% failure ends up being a 70% likelihood to happen.
it at least got acknowledged this time that there is a bug with away team chance percentages
#š -known-issues message
nothing happened so far since this message ofcourse
for todayās events we would like you to spend⦠and reward only 10 of you withā¦. trinketsš¤£
when you write into your waveevent infobox, that doing 101 waves gives 100 points than it better give 100 points.
why i say that? because your "great" Support told me that it doesnt count for my ops, despite it being written in there.
your liveops guys are a friggin team of .... well, calling it by their true name is forbidden here, since you cant handle honesty. <@&509690795536941056>
<@&509690795536941056> The diplomatic climb SLB and the 3 FKR faction hunt SMSās all are missing 5 * materials from the rewards. They only pay out 3/4 * materials. Is this intentional?
asked, didn't get a response back, so looks like it was intended
The events seem kinda pointless to do in G5 if they are not paying out G5 materials
We seem to be missing the Wave Defence event. The standard wave defence pass one
Agree, last night SLB max 4* rewards. I am ops 59. Useless events.
Seems G5 got demoted to "low ops" and now just getting th same things as g3-g5 literallyš« . but hey, we should just ops up while not getting mats, resources etc to do so š. THe heavy hitter SLB were also without 5* mats
They āforgotā to update payouts when they added G5 to ālow opsā events. Nothing to see here, move along!
Inept or meanā¦ā¦ itās one of the 2. you pick!
Ferengi Exchange Pass Overflow didnāt provide enough points for me to finish today. I completed all Ferengi Exchange Pass events with excessive overage each day.
𤣠𤣠𤣠Yeah right...
Is there anyone out there that actually completes waves of their own level let alone +2 levels above them
I just checked mine too
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Why Ferengi point i got not enough for the last milestone of Ferengi Exchange Pass Overflowš¤Ø
The last two usually completed at once but why is this not enough
If iim not misremembering, When the ferengi pass started the SMS was releasted at event reset but the pass itself didn't show up until later. So my guess is that this issue is for those who happend to claim the SMS milestone reward before they fixed the pass. Which is ofcourse nothgn they could have done different as its not liek its possible to choose what event reards to claim or even see the events without claiming first
How would i report this if the ticket response is 3 days
Also i thought it's the other battlepass that have issue, so they fixed that but ruined ferengi
I were missing last ferengi becaues of point not scoring correctly, and at least they said they added the rewards afterwards. THe store was still open but the events/pass were already done.
Do you made ticket?
yes, i contacted support through email
These new Paragon and Cadre Recruit events are just terrible. The rewards are just bad. If I top perform for the weekend I can get... 15 of the new doctor shards (which, ugh) and some RNG pulls. Please bring back the old weekend spend event formats, I've been holding off on building my other G5 epics, and leveling up because these events are just bad.
What is with the poor event rewards, you are just killing off the game community
No one likes token material spend events. They canāt make you any money. Please stop. šš„ŗ
11<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> https://startrekfleetcommand.com/news/infinite-incursions-may-23rd-2026-pairings/ where is eu401 ?
@molten marlin
Commanders, prepare for battle! Work alongside your server to dominate the galaxy in this round of Infinite Incursions beginning on May 23rd for EU and US servers and May 24th for APAC! Infinite Incursions will run for 12 hours and have staggered start times by region. Scoring Update We will be reverting back to the [ā¦]
Why is incursion reverting back to the flawed scoring system?
@molten marlin "reverting back to the old way", does that mean player station raiding will be scored for server win for incursion? Because the raiding didn't really go away, it just didn't count towards whether you won the entire event or not as a server.
If so, I think I'll just stay shielded the whole time. The event isn't THAT much fun. I actually enjoyed myself more during the last incursion, then I have during any of the others.
yes raiding will be the primary scoring
latest incursions seem to have been boring š
Old Incursion is more boring and reason why 70% donāt participate
This is the same attitude scopely is ruining this game more and more
"seem" is subjective. I imagine there is some monetary reason since this is how they operate.
well of course, but I honestly don't know what you could purchase to have fun at incursions?!
@near saddle make incursion 24h
so langsam kotzt ihr mich an schon wieder auf bye obwohl genug da sind und man bekommt einfach nen mist entschƤdigung von ein paar credits womit man 0 anfangen kann
Everyone at Scopely... You want people to participate in Incursions, but on some servers, you are ACTIVELY driving down paricipation by matching the same servers with each other OVER AND OVER. 51 does not want nor need to fight 33 once again for the umpteenth time.
The whales were bored with the new Incursions event; they needed the old one to feed their egos again, and Scopely couldn't afford to lose any more whales.
bottom line is farming incursions (last incursion) suk and the biggest players enjoy pvp, farmers u r cleared to bubble and let us pvp guys have 1 day a month
The heavy hitters didnt even have any g5 material for the g5 bracket. Not worth the time to do event for only g3 and g4 mats
I really can't anymore with you guys. Now we are reverting back to the old incursion system?
And announcing it just ahead of the next incursion?
You do realize this is a game that requires organization on the players part?
Thumbsup for miserable communication once again.
If you wanna lose the rest of the players...go ahead you are on the best way.
What they need to do is create 4 dedicated servers for that purpose, and those who really enjoy PvP can go there once a month for three to four days.
There is 0 reasons not to include 5* mats in the rewards for G5... again
Or people can learn to enjoy all of the game mechanics like pvp. Its one day a month.
I am excited to see incursions go back to original scoring. I'm under level 50 so definitely not a whale. I enjoy the challenge in raiding and defending.
Because it is 'engaging PvP' to farm afk bases for hours. Gimme a break.
scopley lost players when they changed incursionš¤£the biggest players (the guys that spend the most) donāt want farmville, if you want a break go thereš¤£
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You had an event mechanic that clearly was not working as intended: Incursions raiding scoring.
And to be clear, the issue was not that "raiding for points" is a bad concept. The issue is that power creep has reached a point where single players can completely destabilize an entire Incursion for their own server.
You acknowledged that problem yourselves and tried a different scoring approach. Kudos for at least attempting a change, even if it did not work out as hoped.
But what is difficult to understand is this:
Why revert directly back to the exact system that already failed?
At this point, Incursions should be paused until there is a better long-term solution than simply rerunning a mechanic that already proved unhealthy.
Iād like to reiterate a proposal I made earlier, because I think it solves several of the core problems while preserving the PvP/raiding identity of Incursions.
Proposal:
- Keep raiding and PvP as the core mechanic
- Replace scoring with a temporary Incursions-only resource
Example:
- At the start of Incursions, every player/base receives a temporary event resource based on Ops level (for example: Ops Level Ć 1000)
- This resource exists only during the Incursion event
- It can be stolen using any miner
- Each successful raid steals only a fixed amount (example: 100 units per attack), alongside any normal resources
- Only this temporary resource counts toward Incursion score
- The stolen resource is transferred to the attackerās base and can itself be stolen back
- At the end of Incursions, all remaining event resource disappears
This would:
- Encourage active participation
- Keep PvP and raiding relevant
- Prevent a tiny number of players from deciding the outcome for an entire server
- Reduce the impact of extreme power creep
- Create more back-and-forth gameplay instead of "one player wipes half the server"
Right now, the current system simply scales too hard with current resource amounts available (Qd+).
They lost players because of their horrible maintenance.
And the whales are tired of that too because if you spent money on a vanity thing you at least csn expect it to work as intended 95% of the time.
Thst is the one and only reason they are losing players
No one can force anyone to play a game the way a minority wants; everyone has the right to enjoy a game as they wish, just as no one can force you to farm if you don't want to. It's very arrogant to say that because you enjoy PvP, everyone else has to too.
returning to an event that worked is a great idea⦠the only crying came from farmers and perennial losers that canāt pvp for beans⦠1 day a month⦠only 12 hours, and you farmers are crying like my little sisterš¤£
The main problem is it doesnāt lead to an increase in sales which the only reason Incusions exists as far as Scopely is concerned
They tried a new version and participation went down so the are going back to old version that had higher participation I donāt get how thatās bad
Donāt assume everyone who dislikes Incursions is a farmer. Raiding bases for hours is frankly the equivalent of watching paint dry.
Judging by info on STFC.pro it actually went up, but either way 60-70% donāt participate so itās always been a failed event
i mean some of us like the old version, just because you don't, doesn't mean its bad. they decide it with metrics, whale opinions, and money spent
iāve already advocated they set up partial epsilon rss taken every hit, that would make raiding more relevant⦠but the farmers keep shooting that idea down, apparently they canāt shield either š¤£
Another part of the problem is that those who are constantly on the losing side get absolutely nothing as a rewardājust 1,000 credits, and thatās it. What exactly are we supposed to buy with that, especially when the shop prices are higher and certain items are only available to participants? Just scrap this event once and for all, or treat every server equally!
1 day a month, 12 hours, and thatās too painful for the farmers⦠LMFAOš¤£
With the exception that it just didnt for most, and not even for Scopely apparently, otherwise they wouldnt have tried to change it.
If it worked for you - well, lucky you. For our sever, it didnt. Like for nearly all other servers Iāve talked to during Incursions.
No one investing any time into an event that is 99% of the time lost because the same 5 players only care about buying packs and hoarding resources, but not about shielding during Incursions.
Weāre not all farmers, we have quite some people (including me) who would genuinely like to play Incursions actively and go hunt - but as you can imagine, the Nth loss in a row where our collective efforts were negated by āI dont careā just dowsed everyoneās spirit and participation hard.
The proposal I am making is to keep incursions and raiding as it is - just change scoring so a small amount of players cannot ruin it for everyone. The rest is totally fine.
you guys make me laugh š¤£
When are going to realise that no cares what you think
thatās what all us pvp guys were thinking about you š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£go play candy crush, my little sister seems to enjoy it
Before, you were crying about the new event; this is the other side of the coin. I don't know if you were crying because you couldn't attack bases, or because you couldn't indiscriminately destroy smaller players.
yesš¤£
1 day a month⦠12 hoursā¦ š¤£š¤£š¤£
<@&509690795536941056> if you plan to put 409 on bye again please merge us with another server so we can have fun a bit( lag is enough of a daily punishment, pls give us some funš )
I like PvP, as long as it's reasonable, and you have the same chance of winning as losing, and it doesn't depend on how big your wallet is.
I have to agree with this; they have a small player base, meaning the fun isn't always there anymore because you don't have low obs anymore who want to reach 50, since there is a core group that now owns 50/60/70, which is less than 10% of the server, and you never see or hear from half of the low obs. I wouldn't even know some of them myself because they quit after a month or two.
fantastic another regressive move going back to a flawed incursion system where our fate is back in the hands of the people you made quit not shielding. i suppose it might cut the mind numbing waste of time hunting bases to hit in half at least with all those ex players.
rather be killing armadas and that was boring as all hell but at least it made for a much closer competition
Me too, but the problem is the same four whales who, at the mere possibility of losing, find it all ruined.
They don't realize that paying to win is the same as cheating, since without their wallets they wouldn't be able to do anything in any game.
<@&509690795536941056> Can we do the upcoming incursion 12 hours later? I am never able to play saturdays from 10 AM to 10 PM. But 10 PM to 10 AM would actually be fine. Or just give us back our 24 hour incursion. pretty please š š š
Ok now that you people at Scopely have listened to your players (finally) on the verrrrry unpopular changes to the incursion scoring and have restored the usual scoring methodology, now its time to actually FIX the incursion scene as a whole...Your devs of all people should know this is a 24 hour a day game!!!!
By limiting it to 12 hours you are cutting out entire swaths of the player base, and (in economic terms) shooting yourselves in the foot!
We all know those who spend on the game support the playing of those who are unable to... but many on my server have witheld the funds they would normally use for incursions due to the drastic changes out of the blue. The changes altered the fundamental play of the game in instant A and B cut a good 1/3 of the Entire participation base due to your extremely unpopular 12 hour period, in a 24 hour game. Please listen to your players!!!!
None of us it seems liked either change n I see the reaction from the rank n file made you reverse course immediatly! Now do the decent thing for your player base n return the other part of incursions that you Nerfed and restore the 24 hour time period so my players can all participate equally no matter their work and life schedules... I reference the post immediately before mine as a case in point.
Illusionary, Admiral of Shadow Syndicate..server 711
I highly doubt RNG is this unforgiving Scopley š§ I smell BS
Just hit 7 solo borg armadas, and its not enough. Increase the directive limit with the increased kills requirements
409 no incursions againš¤¦š» ok no spending from me then either.. half a game with event exclusions
Also the hit range now inflicted during incursion sux..most of the higher players (which scopely knows are the paying customers), cant hit very many people n so where is the incentive to spend on drastic limitations?? Like I said scopely..why shoot yourself in the foot..or are you aiming for higher, so you dont have a leg to stand on for yr $10 million a month you get from us?
Anyone who has spent any money on this game should be calling their credit card companies, and state you have not got what you paid for and you want a refund under the visa scheme. That is the only message that will get through to the greedy, lazy and incompetent people at scopley
shhhhh⦠youāll wake up the whiners (farmers) complaining about this 1 day a month eventš¤£
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These Duo wave events are the most overtuned, under-rewarding events with the worst directive sourcing that have been released in years. There is zero motivation to engage with this mess
What is your ops level?
Iām 58 and have the same. The 55 new borgs crumple like paper. The 58s I need max fortify to beat and I can just now barely beat them. Not super fun. You need 9 @ 55s. You can do it if you roll into the next week with a couple extra.
Well, That's fun... s710 not on the bye list or pairings list for latest incursions announcement...
They lost you guys because they cancelled our merge
Ferengi points short to finish event?
You're not hitting high enough borg solos to score what's required to complete that, you need to go up at least one level
So glad to hear the revert of incursions to mostly normal
yes its a bug that got reported multiple times already in #š¾-bug-reporting by different people.
the funny thing is everyone seems to have a different amount of points missing to complete the last milestone for overflow. this might be because of lag the server did not register the earned points right after the daily reset.
i did every ferengi battlepass event right after event reset and am still missing 7900 points to completion.
the first report can be found here #š¾-bug-reporting message
problem acknowledged here #š -known-issues message
But why it should be intended when the faction events which we had ie between the big arcs gave the right mats for the ops levels? Now you only play it to get additional reputation and faction credits. And the other events which give this low level mats? It's frustrating to spend the time and effort to kill so many and you get useless stuff.
Just end incursions. It's a boring waste of time that almost no one wants or enjoys. It's just a period of time where 1% of the server plays and the rest goes and does something else.
Two-thirds of the events on Ops 61+ are either too difficult to complete or require spending money. Thatās frustrating and doesnāt put anyone in a good mood....THINKING is supposed to help, even though itās great that the old Incursion is coming back and things are becoming more stable (slow and steady wins the race). But whether there will still be players around by then is the question!
Are these faction hunt events giving anyone mats appropriate for their level? Im 59 and they are only awarding g4 mats. Whats up with that? Now that i noticed, i dont even want to do them? Why do an event thats not even giving me stuff i can use?
90% of all events for ops60 or below require either spending money or have absolutely useless rewards - or both
Has nobody complained about the horrible officer auction for below 61 yet?
battlepass 5k short of completion, told you this when you took it down 2 or 3 times and returned it giving the initial days rewards again, you left it a day short back then, now it has come back to haunt you with 5k short to complete, so how are you going to fix this error in your calculations from back then
why do the Hunt! SMS' have 0 rewards for G5
me podéis indicar al código canjeable
gracias soy nivel 37 y me cuesta mucho subir aún habiendo echo alguna compra es inviable subir y eso que llevo 2 años jugando
Regarding Continuum Pass (Ops 10-19): Players who are camping long-term to focus on officers have already maxed buildings and research for their level, rendering Foundations of Power impossible. Please consider replacing this with something achievable. Thanks.
Every time I read "long term camping" below 39 I die of cringe
Scopely doesn't want anyone to camp. They're trying to incentivize you to move on up. It's going to stay. I just ignore it. The faster Scopely wants me to progress the slower I go.
I understand that and agree with your assessment. Iāve been trying for some time to convince Scopely that campers are inevitable no matter the incentives āyet still profitableā as some of us buy packs and VIP Battle Passes regularly. Like it or not we're a permanent part of the player base, so they may as well gracefully accept that and make the best of it.
This mid month is no different from the early month, there literally no "Event". This arc just too bad, even the previous arc was saved by the events that already been removed nowš š©
Just want to say again, events like this are why people are turning from the game. 247k of rare g5 to complete. Do you know how hard that is to actually even try and spend in game? And now itās only for 10 shards + a gotcha for an officer thatās not even in my gotcha pool. And to make it actually worse! Only top 5 get any shards in the SLB š¤£, and first place gets 10. No wonder why people arenāt playing. This + we only have g4 mats as rewards in our events ( no g5! Was it on purpose? Was it devious? Was it malicious? Was it an error? We have no clue and we wonāt because you donāt answer any real questions / yes we know you are not allowed to at this point ). Itās basically a giant middle finger to g5 players (18% of the game). This has been the absolute worst experience Iāve had so far in stfc, and we have had some doozies. I just hit the six year mark. The Borg solos are not designed for us, vāger is meh-ok, the outposts were not designed for us. Itās been months of g5 getting the shaft. Fake COTA stinks, the rewards have decreased in value, everything is still just going downhill. Absolute radio silence on all real in game issues ( excluding incursions ). When does the next roadmap come out? How many of the 60k monthly BP players did you lose by now?
I have posted about getting put in the remedial battlepass this month, but having now seen someone's g7 bp, I still wouldn't be spending if I was 5 ops levels higher and got the normal bp.