💬-events-feedback

[short pier]

I'm ops 50 and didn't really have issues with doing level 50 rares, but I never got a single epic directive so guess I just don't even get to try an epic. Idk why they insist on gatekeeping these so hard, they did the same garbage with invasions and everyone hates those too. Let those of us who want to engage with the new content do so! I did my best to engage with the new stuff in good faith and I feel I got basically nothing to show for grinding my absolute ass off for days. The most valuable thing I got the whole time was the officer depot tokens from the spend event, and that comes at the cost of not actually getting the new officers so even that feels like an overall loss. Overall a big fat 0/10.

[dark horizon]

Removal of the mats spend event to get officers shards is really bad. I was planning to ops up on one of those. I guess I'm staying where I am for the next few months unless they bring them back.

[short pier]

Also, Maka'la's Crucible is the least value I have ever gotten for a week of grinding in my entire 20 years of playing games, and I'm not exaggerating. What in the actual heck? 6 days of hardcore grinding for a handful of fairly easy to obtain officer shards and some materials I already have millions of? I genuinely thought there would be something more at the end, but nope.

[cobalt wave]

<@&509690795536941056> For todays BattlePass...... I seem to be stuck at 387.04k to go to finish it. No matter how many hostiles I hit, that number isn't budging!!

[hollow lichen]

nice to see a good transogen mining sms to mix it up from the last thing I did just before reset, a transogen mining sms nr4 because it took that long to get enough dirs from the pulls to finish sms3

[oblique ridge]

Just one week could you start the rare ticket events on time or is that expecting too much?

[vagrant topaz]

+10min waitin

[idle parcel]

Or didn't even want to. Collectively, we are over new grinds and new currencies every month, coupled with new, ridiculously high, hours long grinds. Yet, Scopely will continue on with this 🐂💩 and not listen to a word we say. I don't ever want to hear QOL improvements from them ever again. Instead of new 💩 every month that gets more and more complicated and laggy, how about improving sourcing for so many officers, or have events for officers, and not this choose your officer and hopefully get a shard in a pull. Ridiculous.

[high aurora]

Second week in a row we're missing it

[idle parcel]

This new Scopely management is showing their greed more and more with each new 💩 that comes out. Notice how they stopped talking about QOL improvements too? It's all about getting the new Saudi management another gold yacht.

[ocean crypt]

monday night ticket events missing, would be nice nice to have them before i go to bed , and have to rush them in the morning

[lucid idol]

This is Scopely, of course that is expecting too much. The only thing in this game you can guarantee they will fix in any reasonable frame of time is the store

[inland goblet]

Well, no.
I'm sure everyone wanted to finish this stage - in addition to the loot from entities, there was also a damage SLB.
Another question is that making a server-wide event dependent on whether you're lucky enough to get directives in a chest is, to put it mildly, іdіotіс.

[gaunt wraith]

Therein lies the rub. They have a lot of good ideas.

Star base, could have been a place to come together and build a really strong alliance. Chance to tighten bonds even further. Has been dead for about almost 3 years?

Incursions, Great chance for the PvPers to have fun but they made it at the expense of the PVE people and they missed every possible opportunity adjust scoring. You win or lose based on whether somebody's angry and wants to give up the store or they fell asleep with a shield down.

Arenas: best idea yet... Usually when they introduce something it comes out buggy and messed up. This actually started pretty good, and progressively got worse to the fact where it's universally hated and only the super spenders bother to play. However, it pay guards really good rewards and officer sourcing. So if you're willing to throw down some cash, you can get the goodies.

Flashpoint, another great idea horrifically implemented and executed.

[late siren]

they do scale it to server population it’s just they are clueless and everyone stills gets unobtainable milestones

[viscid delta]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that the miners in the new level 50 - 58 systems drop 4* parts?

[hollow moat]

its known issue

[plush fulcrum]

So many "known issues" and "visual bugs", so little effort put in to fixing any of them...Too busy with the next cash grab!

[dapper tree]

listed as an SLB but scoring as an ALB

[viscid delta]

Seriously, how hard is it to change a loot table.

[hollow moat]

dont hold your breath they act like they dont wanna fix till next run and act like they dont wanna comp us for this junk

[idle parcel]

Not "everyone," myself included. There were several in our alliance who didn't do the new stuff at all. We've grown tired of new grinds and new currency every month. Many of us decided we are just going to do what we want in the game, for it's either that or quit altogether, for I'm done spending hours a day grinding reds, despite Scopely's broken promise of QOL improvements. Freebooters exist when they still supposedly gave a 💩 about that. Now, grinds have at least quadrupled. Nope.

[cyan path]

Argument Event was a disaster and flashpoint is a disaster I really believe that scooped has made it their goal to gray out all active players for 2025

[versed hedge]

For lower 50s players its almost impossible to be able to refine the "5* Transogen Containment Exchange" as the rss for it is only dropped by level 56 hostiles in rare system, even though the tool tip says 51-60 no level 51 hostiles exist for it

[hollow moat]

yea its impossible for a fresh g5 i cant even kill one 50 and all you getr from everything else is loot you cant use because you cant refine it

[scarlet escarp]

Here's an idea for you all 😂 : disable peace shields for an hour here and there as a pvp event. Call it 'all hands to battle stations'

[molten ridge]

where y'all getting your tokens?

[fiery falcon]

Well, if we are paying the devs I want a say what they actually work on.
They don’t have the capability to even steer development properly.
They just sit there and push devs to warp good ideas and make something even addicts would refuse to play with

[idle parcel]

Yep. My interest as an ops 62 player has dropped dramatically over the last few months. The only thing keeping me even playing is my great alliance. This game isn't fun anymore, and yeah, it seems that their goal is to purposely tank the game. Pretty soon, at this rate, there will only be one server left.

[hollow moat]

then the mass lag spikes the entire event have made it barely playable

[gaunt wraith]

Exactly and they're okay with that. The devs do not care one bit. They'll fix it in about 3 years and congratulate themselves for it.

[vagrant topaz]

How about some updates on what they are doing to fix this cluster of an event we had this past weekend?

[boreal coyote]

#freeslb

[neat condor]

Replacing the March of Progress for G4 with Fueling the Fire is stupid and just makes everything worse. This will only hurt player progression, and does nothing to move people into G5 faster. The March of Progress had varied scoring criteria and wonderful rewards. Fueling the Fire has dumb scoring criteria with less rewards. This is not how you encourage people to progress.

Fueling the Fire at ops 50 gives 614 rare g4 ship parts a week, so in the same time as March of Progress it will give 2,456 rare ship parts. At ops 46, The March of Progress totaled 5,450. So we are now receiving less than half the ship parts before this change. That is not how you encourage people to progress.

Fueling the Fire only scores off of G4 materials. At ops 50, it is thousands of epic G4 materials to complete. Do you know what else requires materials? The best source of new officers, the weekend SLB/SMS events. With the March of Progress scoring off of power increases, FT/CT mats, and disruptors, as well as running all month, you could advance in it without impacting your competitiveness elsewhere. But with Fueling the Fire only scoring on materials, and only running during weekdays, you have to choose between improving your officers and improving your ships. It would be one thing if the month long officer SMS that everyone enjoyed was still happening, but it isn't. This is not how you encourage people to progress.

[high aurora]

You should add Transogen to Mining Monday for scoring since it's going to be around for 6 months

[neat condor]

I see three options going forward with Fueling the Fire, the first is to revert the change. Give us back March of Progress and let Fueling the Fire do whatever, its always been a questionable event with the mats spend scoring given the weekend officer spend events.

The second is to change the scoring criteria for Fueling the Fire to match that of March of Progress, as well as increase the rewards. Make it a March of Progress that runs every week instead of every month and that will be fine too.

And the final, acceptable option I see is to first increase the rewards from Fueling the Fire, so that it is at least the equivalent of a weekly March of Progress. And second, extend Fueling the Fire so that it lasts through the weekend, so that people can spend mats on it and officer events at the same time.

[hollow wigeon]

Will the Flashpoint-Event-Store-Currency carry over to the next event ?

[molten marlin]

yes

[vapid solar]

It would be great if they didn’t balance new events based on having the meme building of the month at matching ops level

[sullen badger]

Ummmmm <@&509690795536941056> I’ve been ops 51 for few days before today’s events reset

[rose ice]

Players should be allowed to score (lowered point values, mind you) with lower generation mats in weekend mats spend SLBs

#FreeSLB

And from my perspective I can assure you it slows my progression (I'm Ops 50). I would move up. But now that I know that building Jellyfish and Pilum's to scrap for G5 parts will be worthless to me once I move up, I will camp my hind parts right at this level until I've built and leveled all the G4 Ships I will need for parts later. Slowing my progression. Keeping me out of G5

Is that what the overlords want? By this change, that's what I'm incentivized to do.

#FreeSLB

P.S. I won't spend this Alliance Tournament if the current status quo remains in place

[stoic linden]

105 hours for a 48 hour task oops who calculated these? These absolutely need better scoring so they're completable at all.

[rich moss]

I’ve been sick - so no energy to do the minimum I did do

[serene oxide]

Please don't have another run of this garbage event <@&509690795536941056> .
We don't have endless hours to sit and kill hostiles and mine.
Please have better events or at least fix the bugs instead of giving us this rubbish

[novel totem]

<@&509690795536941056> thanks for finally acknowledging the issues with the SMS and IMS events. I appreciate the compensation - however: You could send out 450k currency as compensation and it wouldn't make the grind any more pleasant.

[plucky flare]

Appreciate the updates, but I got little interest in doing all that ridiculous grind all over again.

[tropic sigil]

Running crucible and invasion at the same time probably affected how everyone is feeling about the grind this month so far. I'm hopeful for the second run with slightly easier targets and no crucible to distract from the IMS 😊

[sinful hemlock]

They need to make Flashpoint be for all ops levels. Theres nothing good to do until ops 35 which unless you spend hundreds is s nigh impossible goal

[last trellis]

Hihi there!~ Commander Fwyfwy here! I just came in to drop by and express my support for Freeing the SLB. #FreeSLB Scopely needs to revert all changes related to the Officer SLB events as recent changes have broken sourcing for many things and even spending for both F2P and spenders in general by punishing players who are slow to ascend through the ops levels. To be quite honest, that's quite a bad change; and I recommend people check out RevDeuce's video about it. #FreeSLB

Signing off now with love,
Commander Fwyfwy

[novel totem]

now my eyes hurt

[wise rapids]

Flashpoint was an complete flop. They expected everyone on a server kill about 500 hostiles or spend to max out ships in still kill 300-400 hostiles for one chest that gave next to nothing, especially considering the rewards were far less than events that took a tenth as much work. And if everyone didn't do that you don't get stage 3 or 4 completed.

Those who were able to complete the sms 1 and 2 early completed entities before they count for the server. And if we didn't do them before the server was through 1 and 2 anyone over ops 50 wasn't able to run epics that were in any way useful.

And the comp for all of this is honestly less than we'd have gotten if it worked right to begin with.

[plucky flare]

All I know is that the tweaks made to the sms milestones better be significant, I'm not doing hundreds of those things again and taking 20+ trips to g6 Hurak systems to do it.

[novel totem]

can this event get an alternate (limited) scoring mechanism? If I go with the daily drip - my next upgrade is after the event finishes. If I don't score I don't get the rewards. I don't want use the event store currency to purchase building materials either. I already upgraded the building with the initial purchase of the forge pack... that's why the upgrade interval gets a bit longer 😠

[queen kindle]

Please post without all the fancy text enhancements in the future.

[last trellis]

Explain. What rule exactly do mods feel that broke?

[queen kindle]

I'm trying to help you avoid triggering the automod. Text enhancements like that are difficult to read and are blocked.

[idle parcel]

The last few months have been flops. They somewhat listened this time, but for two months we complained about the crazy Augment grind, and all we got was crickets. Killing 500 ships isn't going to get us to like the new content more. It makes us hate it. This was the least many in my alliance did. I gave up on the second one, after seeing double the amount needed. Besides the complete boredom of hitting all those reds, like you said, not many have the time to do that, or want to. I would much rather watch a movie or go for a walk, or chew glass or jump in a cactus field before doing 500 of those.

[frank osprey]

So comp chest with 36k(?) event currency is supposed to fix Flashpoint?
Meta stage 3 & 4 that no server got. 7500 each.
IMS stage 3 & 4 that no server got was 12k + 15k and change +mining choice token(?)
Solo stage 4 that probably no one got to becuase of RNG was 30k alone.
That's 72k your junk event shafted people out of and you give out 1/2 that in an opps our bad chest.

[red tendon]

Why the 68 Suliban don’t count i don’t know, but thanks for almost doubling how long the event will take to finish

[worn galleon]

may want to un bottleneck the trans tokens... I won't be doing arena until september

[boreal coyote]

Wow, not one server finished stage 3 of flashpoint. Slow clap 👏…..

[true radish]

@full swan can we get an change back to old style SMS with phases and weekend SLB for officer shards? Do not like SLB and SMS event for officer tokens that then limit get only 10 shards of one new officer.

If things stay, I'm just not participating with these officer token SLB events.

[sweet valve]

SLBs should go back to accepting all materials and offering the current officer
SMS events should go back to being completable in 1 hour tops. These 8 hours a day SMS events are not fun.
Level appropriate hostiles shouldn’t require more than what the average player has to blow up 10 minimum a trip.

[languid ice]

Rare mines twice as fast and is worth almost double the points. So that’s a fourfold increase in points. Which would reduce your time needed to 25-ish hours.

[stoic linden]

Sadly, I don't even have a ship that can get to rares

[tropic sigil]

Ferengi battle pass to distract from the IMS. Guess the arc runner doesn't feel their newest feature is valuable/engaging enough to stand alone 😔

[fluid gust]

we're already being overwhelmed by everything, stop stacking more overlapping events on top.

[sterile yew]

Wow two huge meta events on top of the flashpoint. are you trying to kill the game?

[placid veldt]

Awesome! Stack something else on us... we're not burning out grinding 20hrs/day beta testing your white hot dumpster fire of a game... I certainly hope someone was fired over the IMS/SMS issue, because that's a giant gap between reality and that acid fuelled nightmare! Games are meant to be fun aren't they? ... meant to be an escape from the day to day? #stopthegrind

[merry violet]

In re: the two announcements. I do not want more events. I want less events. I already skipped the flashpoint events (or more accurately coudn't do them), you're just giving me a reason to continue to skip events.

[subtle nest]

grind requirements of the last 3 months arcs have made this a hard game to enjoy. Finishing any of the events now has become so time consuming I wont bother to start them now.

[neat condor]

Halving the Flashpoint Stage 3 IMS milestones is a good start, but no server hit even 25%. The scoring will also need to be updated if you aren't willing to reduce the points more. And Stage 4 probably needs to be adjusted as well, if its not going to count refines before it is open.

[jaunty nacelle]

Events feedback: Stop compounding more grind / pay to play/win events on top of the overwhelming grinding events with unrealistic milestones. Stop Adding crappy content and FIX the Game. Give us two months off from these new garbage arcs, fix the game and you’d be surprised at how much more spending and successful this game will be.
#Stopthegrind #FixtheGame

[charred hazel]

Congrats Scopley. More successful implementations of new paid content than features this month 👍

[full portal]

Where is or was this event?
Syn lvl up(nice) but you took away syn exp from BP. No event for collecting syn exp.

[pastel swan]

I know it is not running right now, but when it is, it's too late.

PLEASE brgin back the old scoring mechanic for officers in material spend events on the weekend. In my oppinion it is hindering progress. Since you are always telling us to level up, that can't be what you want.

I was ready to go g6 last saturday. After confirming with other players that all my g5 materials would be worthless, I did not do it. And I will not level up for a while I guess. I have virtually no g6 stuff but lots of g5 I culd still level up. So why should I level up?

Maybe you should include this in the loading screen.

If you want all your materials you worked so hard for to be worthless in events, LEVEL UP!

#FreeSLB

[chrome abyss]

Chronicle of the ascendant looks fun. No building nor researche to upgrade. So no chance to progress in that event. I foresee a huge complaint session from VIPs 😂😱 <@&509690795536941056>

[cerulean holly]

<@&509690795536941056> You know what pairs well with a token system with active chasers? The bug that forks up ship pathing and game restart times that make it impossible to fix it yourself before your ship and dreams die. How about fixing a bug or two before adding a bajillion new ones?

[karmic jolt]

lets follow up the grindiest "Arc" with two more paid grinds. I have not seen so many grinds since i went to starbucks

[nimble ginkgo]

I would like to express my support for Freeing the SLB. #FreeSLB.

My anecdotal perspectve, if helpful: I'm an Ops 50 player, who has been planning to jump to 53 this month (a plan several months in the works). I tend to hold my mats for officer SLBs in which I find value. So, I have 6.8M uncommon, 900k rare, and 140k epic G4 mats banked up. The removal of G4 mats from the scoring metric were I to advance to Ops 53 means I would no longer have any use for these banked materials. As such, I am now incentivised to remain at Ops 50 in order to deplete my hoard of G4 materials. This could take several months, if not a year+. As someone who was excited to enter G5 this month, this is a deflating prospect. It feels punishing. I would MUCH prefer to enter G5, all while being able to take advantage of the materials for which I worked so hard to accumulate.

I strongly request the removal of previous generation materials as scoring metrics for the weekly officer SLB be reversed. #FreeSLB

[marble parrot]

I realy really wish we didnt have stupido timers on these.

Nothing else i want to spend credits on..

[heavy ivy]

Scopes idea of less clicks to make people happy is another bp generating more clicks?

[serene jetty]

Why there's no recruit/spending event scheduled for the weekend?

[odd dock]

they dont want anyone to unlock new officers without guaranteed spend... players were able to win slbs without spending (took a few months of planning to have enough ways to spend the materials).

scopely dont realise officers are only free via this method maybe 2-3 times a year due to limitations in where you can spend the mats, and those players that build 10+ ships cant scrap them (so their limit is shipyard space) - again scopely dont know their own game to know theres a limit to how free unlocks occur.

so ill put it down to whales crying abut players not spending and earning the same rewards they 'have to spend for' ... change my mind 😉

[chilly sequoia]

Problem fixed, stopped playing at all. Scopely won't care though

[jagged cypress]

This is the arc we want, not transogen stuff 😅

[plush fulcrum]

Oooooh matron 🤣

[stuck elk]

I completed the 1st milestone of the Invasion IMS, Flashpoint 1:Hurak Invasion Chapter 1 in my missions, and nothing has happened. It has not registered that I've completed this, so what do I do now?

[high wharf]

Am I the only 61 who's not getting Epic 5* gas in any event rewards? I figured by now it'd be there since I've been getting tons of Epic Crystal from events.

[lethal mango]

Converting the excess 5* epic crystal into 5* epic gas worked for me. Not ideal

[valid knoll]

You will never get epic gas from events. Only epic crystal. Its intentional game design and absolutely terrible

[glad moon]

The flashpoint events you ran was way too high and not well thought out. You chose numbers apparently out of the blue. Did you use average screen time and how many hostiles were actually hit? You have access to all the relevant data and it seems you ignored it. I did some basic math and came up with 28k and then 55k points needed from stage 1 and 2. And that is at the 2 points per kill scoring. This is challenging yet attainable. Next is stage 3. I saw you basically just cut it in half. That is still an unobtainable number at over 5k points even with epics in play. My math shows 1500 point is a better top score. Finally stage 4. Since the only source to aquire the refined transogen is the refinery. And you have to wait to unlock stage 4 till the last. This one is also unobtainable as many will only get 1 refine on the final day. If you want us to participate at the numbers you want. You have to make it obtainable. If you put the carrot at the end of very long road a horse is smart enough to know it’s not worth all the work to get the carrot. But if you hang the carrot 6 inches in front of the horse. They will try and get the carrot and journey the entire long road in the process. You need to set numbers that 75% or so of servers can complete. Not by how much money you want to make and the how many packs you wish to sell then setting the event numbers based on that. Cause if you want grumpy horses, complaining about the ungodly numbers, sharing information that no one could complete your event. Start identifying heavily that SCOPLEY is a cash grab company and does not care about its players and content, as are the sentiments on cc shows and other Reddit and discord posts. Many players are talking about quitting. Be good stewards to the game and keep the majority of players happy, keep carrots close to the horses. Cause to change it to people, if we see futility, we stop walking your path. We will avoid your games in the future.

[proven sparrow]

These are the tasks i could not finish on the boldly go and I'm quite a active player

Luckily the extra day got my Borg Type Solo Armada directives cooldown off so I could finish them or I would have not been able to finish the Total Points of the event 1950/1950

[idle parcel]

I was in the same boat and had to rely on pulls for FT materials to complete it. It was an exhausting event, and it seems there are about to be more of them. 🙄

[proven sparrow]

I too have serious red flags going off with what's been going on this year.
New content introduced designed to be hard and impossible to complete, with no other purpose to frustrate players enough that they end up buying a ship/primes/officers to end the grind.
Then to find that the ship is still not capable of clearing the content for your level unless you spend additional money on upgrade packs for the ships, resulting in each new content release costing an absolute minimum of $900.

It is dangerous as it draws on peoples addiction and is imho far worse than a gambling addiction. Gambling sites have rules and regulations to protect people and I find it difficult that gaming companies can do what they like without repercussions.

[sweet valve]

The Reliant is just bad for F2P. You spend 3 months unlocking it, just so that then it takes 2-3 more months to be actually useful for its main task.

[idle parcel]

Regarding the new FP nonsense -

First of all, you've made it incredibly unfair adding hazard to anything below 61, as 60 and below players do not have access to Hazard protection. I don't know whose bright idea that was.

Secondly, why do all these systems need to have chaser ships now? If we can hit those without a one trick pony new ship, then why do we need one for the expended Augment section. You should really change that, as it's ridiculous that some in his early 60s ops gets killed by a lvl 29 chaser ship.

Thirdly, whoever informed you that we want more grinding and pay to play events is severely mistaken.

Fourthly, you give us a trans refinery with all these artifacts, but we have no idea where each artifact level and shard wise. It's pretty inconvenient to have to get out and go to the artifact section to try and memorise which ones we need.

Lastly, as pretty much everyone has said here, why must you give us new content and new ships each month? We don't want that. Above all else, we want a game that works how it's supposed to. So many bugs get reported month after month, the same ones as well as new ones, and you hardly do anything to fix them.

[idle parcel]

So is that epic solo ship. I finally got mine yesterday, F2P, and out of the box, it's pretty worthless. So now I have to try and do an epic solo with the one lousy credit I get every few days with a weak ship.

As the one you responded to said, it's pretty scary seeing how Scopely does what they do to feed into people's gaming addictions, purposely frustrating players with drips barely on so that they are forced to buy packs to advance. Things have totally gone to 💩 after the new owners took over. Out of the few phone games I've played over the years, this one is by far the one with the most glitches, and it's not good either regarding trying to get people to spend to advance.

[chilly sequoia]

Maybe scopely could make an attempt at smart.
The SMART acronym stands for Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time-bound. It's a framework used to set goals that are clear, focused, and practical, increasing the likelihood of success.

[true radish]

Here is an idea Scopely. Run the Boldly Go events between archs! That would avoid mass burn out when you run them in conjunction with unrealistic grind events during the archs.

[lucid idol]

it might say retrieving but it's obvious what the scoring requirements are... thirty million syndicate xp to finish the sms.... another shameless cash grab

[south maple]

back to this retrieving noncense <@&509690795536941056>

[dark horizon]

They probably need to start pre-loading the events the day before so the tooltips actually load in time for the events 🙂

[south maple]

ah ha the name had me chuckling

[gaunt wraith]

Just what the heck am I supposed to do with this lol.

[high aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/literally-lara-gif-13869101787029462476

[rigid hedge]

Scopely can’t update the program correctly without screwing up other 💩. Now all events just like yesterday say retrieving.

[empty zodiac]

I checked my event store this AM and had flashpoint things to get. Tabs all stated 1 day left. Now those are all gone???

[bitter basalt]

almost 40 minutes since reset and we stil dont know what these evenst require

[low remnant]

Why do I get more points for doing worse? What kind of nonsense rewards is this?

[amber wyvern]

I think I am done caring about your events.

They just encourage me to hord like mad until something comes up.

This is my attempt to keep playing, otherwise I just delete the app and walk away.

[gleaming star]

Where did the flashpoint event store tab go. There was supposed to be another day left to spend currency earned

[frank osprey]

Did they add a Ferengi kill the rare and epic Honorguard event then take away the ability to get the directives?

[knotty acorn]

Either it disappeared or they ended it early. I went to spend my currency before reset and it was gone

[rose ice]

Please explain this <@&509690795536941056>. This is so confusing to everyone in our Alliance

[naive viper]

What do we need to do for the Ferengi Pass thing?

[frank osprey]

It's in the seasonal tab like TCs and Wave Defenses for some reason. Guess running another battle pass on top of another would have been too confusing.

[coral bane]

I cannot see the season pass events. Only the overflow sms.
I do score (mining transogen) and have a pip.
But no events visible…
<@&509690795536941056>

[coral bane]

Its more confusing now, imho….

[obtuse shuttle]

Why more heroic event?

[hard sentinel]

So locking armadas behind a token wall when the tokens are nearly impossible to get?

[twin knoll]

Do you folks ever actually listen to your player base?? anyone who is sub ops 61 and does not have access to the research that offsets the hazards when trans mining can not do that event I refuse to min x million trans gen 12k per nova its beyond rediculous borderline epicly short sighted get your act together I for one would love to know how many players the bungled implimentation of this arc has cost also I agree with the post above about armadas I dont know if I should even log into the game tomorrow because there is so little in it for me why would I bother??

[sharp iris]

Is it really 1600 Planetary Charts to start an EPIC, that's 10 days single pulls to start this and means I need to bank for 10 days on the off chance an EPIC pops, or they need to give better sourcing for the charts, i'm lucky if I have 400 and most times I have none as I try to run them when available. <@&509690795536941056>

[copper reef]

Yo <@&509690795536941056> why did the store to spend the currency from the 5 day event disappear so quickly?
I only just claimed the gift, I haven't been able to get online today with work, but now the store has gone!!
I had 70k or so to spend. What a total waste of effort.
Please bring it back for a couple of days 🙏

[frank osprey]

I don't understand WTH Scope is doing. They are not explaining anything clearly anymore. Why did they jam another battle pass on us but put it the seasonal tab like anyone is going to do that transogen junk over and over and have the overflow down in the regular events tab. You just completely failboated the Flashpass that NO ONE finished even 1/2 of and your solution is to give people 1/2 of what they missed out on from rewards, then remove the store.

Now you jam this Ferengi battlepass on us with 2 events, 1 where you mine 10x more transogen because no one want to do other stuff in the game but mine some trash with 6 mining ships that will die within an hour to the hazard while mining something at a crazy fast rate of whatever your forge lvl is. So mining ~200k across 6 ships an hour, spending a few billion tri and di to repair over and over until I mine up 47.57mil points worth. And you added a kill Honorguard event and took away the turn in to get the directives. I have a feeling that neither of these 2 events as part of the Ferengi battlepass are going to be optional if you want to finish the battlepass let alone collect the overflow.

I don't get it. You screwed over EVERY player with the Flashpass and your soulutions have made it worse. Giving people 1/2 the loot they should have gotten. Taking away the store to spend that loot in less than a day later. Jam another battlepass on us that should have been done after the current one that just has people doing the same junk they're forced to do in the current pass. NO ONE is going to want to do transogen stuff seasonally like the TCs or Waves. NO ONE.

[neon bane]

Oh look another spend event... Go kill armadas you can't get to or have directives for

[brittle fulcrum]

honestly, how stupid do you have to be...there's a menu called events. what's it for if you have to click through everywhere anyway.... use a bit of common sense

[dark horizon]

please add all the other building special resources to the list, even with lower scoring

[frank osprey]

Loved seeing this after spending I don't know how many mirror frags to jump my District 56 up like 5 levels at once with a build time of 533 days...yesterday.

[solar citrus]

Hard for me to spend any of this building stuff when all my buildings are ops locked

[lucid idol]

I've already maxed mine, and several of the other buildings in this list 😂 I feel your pain

[dark horizon]

if it makes you feel any better i spent thousands of DTI credits less than an hour before event start… should have known better than doing anything before noon reset

[magic kindle]

Is this a joke or special math?

[plush axle]

Why block previous generations of resources. Those just transitioning into the next will have upgrades not counting.

[knotty acorn]

<@&509690795536941056> Please request that the Boldly Go event store be reopened since it was closed early.

[molten marlin]

it's still open

echoes of mak'ala

[obtuse shuttle]

This is not how to make new content. Lol

[light ingot]

Imho, best way to grade this Arc is 🤮 🙈

[wheat pasture]

Can we please get some clarification on the new events that appear to be paying out in reverse?

[dark horizon]

Allow the lower grades of materials to count in the SMS/SLB, removing them is just 🤢

[knotty acorn]

I meant the Flashpoint event store. It was closed early.

[molten marlin]

it will reopen for the second run

on the 17th

[boreal coyote]

Enough said

[tranquil crescent]

@near saddle So where exactly are we getting Ferengi Exchange Pass Points? It's not listed as Heroic... but everything screams you making us buy them, since you haven't given us any events to earn them?

[plush axle]

They hid them in the Season Pass.

This one is insane.

[solar citrus]

Why??? Just why????? Why start an event 2 days before the hostiles will even be in game???

[opaque talon]

#scopelylackofplanning

[dark horizon]

You don't have to mine it in that specific system, but the amounts required are insane.

[lucid idol]

it has a 12 day timer??? Seriously man of all the things wrong with this game, you choose to complain about this 😂

[solar citrus]

Lol, I'm just trying to warn others so they don't waste a token for nothing. It should only have a 10 day timer since the 1st two days don't count. 😂

[lucid idol]

I would hope people can read and use their powers of reasoning, although I am acutely aware not everyone has that capability 🤣

[copper oak]

that's about what i can harvest (2x common, 1x rare) per run as an early g4 player before my ships go boom.
the costs for the small pull are 22k common and 37k rare.
that means for rare i have to fly more than 4x (and repair my ship), for common more than 8 ships (+repair).
just let it sink in. 🤢

[ashen notch]

Players spend all week (actually months) complaining about the excessive grinds. Scopely creates the Ferengi BP with two excessive grind events attached. That tracks for how well they listen to player feedback.

[jaunty nacelle]

Had the product manager and one of the game designers in QA today… this right here shows the quality of their work… putting events in the Season Passes area… yup… good job there bud. Geesh

[fiery hare]

Players: "We want less stuff to do every day" Scop: "Let's ad a new Season Pass" 🤡

[glass pewter]

Once the events stopped just retrieving, logged on, saw the garbage events, popped a shield and logged off for the day.

[lost phoenix]

The event for improving building seems to not be scoring for some of the specilty buildings. Upgraded the Facade

[molten marlin]

facade isn't on the list

[severe shell]

I never saw this event

[lost phoenix]

Thanks I thought that might be the case. Just so many of these.....

[molten marlin]

was ims 4

[dark horizon]

6 miners on the highest rare nodes they can get to yielded about that much, so i need to blow them up another 30 times all

[slow spoke]

Why do you have an event today to kill Hurak Vanguard when they shows up tomorrow after reset?

[boreal coyote]

Who the heck sets these milestones now?

@full swan be honest, are we supposed to complete this ( see above ) . This is like 6 ships mining for 60 hours at my level.

[craggy gorge]

So it is 1pm Pacific and absolutely no Hurak Rare Vanguard in any 50 and below system on server 102. So exactly how are we supposed to complete this event??????

[near valve]

It's a 12 day event, it's supposed to be done when those hostiles come back. But you're right, it's poor planning on their part.

[hollow lichen]

peak engagement right there, warping back and forward, do the warp trick after every reset, loose a miner 1 in 5 times because it lags out, waste the repair and mats. Oh and just filling up the system with chasers adding server load

[night otter]

Why don't you just make it a subscription game with all these damn passes?

[idle parcel]

Yep. It's annoying having to warp stop each time. Then, depending on your server's rules, you have to watch your OPC and then no longer have a mining spot.

[subtle nest]

They heard our feedback of the event grinds are out of hand so they have added more events with high grind milestones

[jaunty nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-heroes-thats-what-point-gif-22310650

[hollow lichen]

Oh and of course warp path not found bug so you have to reboot, have your ships god knows where stuck and you loose the node too

[gritty briar]

how can you work the Hurok event under the pass when they tell you a token system and you go there and they are no hostiles other than chasers. NO van guard or honor guard

[maiden condor]

<@&509690795536941056> Would you be so kind as to explain HOW is your average 30-something player, able to mine around 3000 transogen in half an hour before the ship explodes, to mine at least 25000 daily for 11 days straight to be able to complete another one of your miscalculated and unbalanced SMS goals? Should I maybe quit my job and just play this game for 18 hours a day and then get some quick sleep before I start grinding again? Have your game designers any friggin idea how the game is played and how much time their unrealistic goals actually take?

EDIT: Seasonal Ferengi Rush = 1.62 million points required, 6 points per 1 common transogen. That's 270000 common transogen. Task deadline is 11 days 18 hours, let's say 12 days. 2700000/12 = 22500 required daily. My miner can mine around 3000 max in half an hour or more before it explodes with forge level 12 (maximum I can get without $$$, been upgrading since day 1). I had two tokens. In both cases, I was shot down in token space and there's no way for me to get more tokens until I upgrade the building in several days. I have absolutely no other choice but to repeatedly send my miners to die to mine this resource in this dumb auto-hull-damage space just to repair them after, and I have to freeze the tails every time, paying attention to the process so I cannot just do that mostly AFK. Is this seriously your designers' idea of "players having fun"?

[full swan]

Pinged ya

[idle parcel]

Ugh right. I get a lot of the 0000 ship returns that park right outside my base but don't go in. Having to reboot for anything buggy is frustrating, as it takes me between 5-30 minutes, depending on whether the black screen decides to proceed. 🤦

[foggy canyon]

where epics scopes?

[idle parcel]

Come on now. Why aren't you spending thousands a day upgrading to make your gaming experience easier?

Oh wait, it isn't easier.

I'm ops 62, and it's just as bad. I feel bad for anyone ops 61 or below who doesn't have hazard protection.

To put hazards on every level was such a bad idea. They obviously don't play the game. It's insane.

[kind rapids]

I think we'd all like to know the answer

[idle parcel]

With the addition of the new events and battle pass, it honestly feels like I can't afford to put the game down for 5 minutes....but I did. It's like a burning merry go round you're on that you can't step off of.

[plush axle]

<@&509690795536941056> When can we expect a bunch of Tokens as compensation for this? Lots of people wasting tokens because the event is launched early.

[maiden condor]

I'm spending at least 2-3 hours a day just doing all daily missions and all the events, as well as at least 1-2 hours extra getting materials for all the refineries/loops/factions. And I'm only level 38. I didn't even have to spend that much time daily in game when playing World of Warcraft for years... The design here is completely unrealistic, and hearing from higher level players, it just gets worse.

And every arc introduces some new resource, something new that has to be done. After the last one, now I have to care about Augments again, and hunt down surveys or grind regular mobs there. Now there's transogen (such a "cool" name by the way, wonder who was the genius that came up with it, so original! So much based on existing Trek lore! Was necessary I guess, couldn't use one of the existing ones such as Benamite, Pergium, Verterium, Magnesite, Duranium, Thallium, Kelbonite, Argonite, Corundium, Fistrium, Endurium, Neutronium, Duonetic, Duridium).

And Scopely in their videos pat themselves on the back and blatantly lie to players that they're designing things that are "fun to play".

[hollow oriole]

Go into top level "Event Store" and scroll almost all the way over, that's where it is for me

[foggy canyon]

that was fast, its been added - scopes on the ball

[ashen notch]

They were there the whole time, just not where they were supposed to be until recently. They were outside of the ship parts and at the end near the Emergency Field Rations claim.

[covert tangle]

the amount of needed mined transnodes are to high for level 60 it cant have a selkie and need many more time like 61+ people

[runic meadow]

Mining is fun………….said no STFC player ever.

[main radish]

Just recently turned Ops 30, I have no shot at this daily event. The buildings I can upgrade barely scratch it, and at the rate I mine transogen in order to build the forge, it'll take me longer than the day to amass the necessary amount.

How am I supposed to do this arc?

[rare ermine]

same - i'm 39 and i have no chance of doing it either. I can't mine 2m transogen in 11 days either. The whole arc has been terrible.

[carmine delta]

Really disappointed with the last few updates to the game. It has definitely impacted how i spend and game time. SCOPLY must have players who really love to mindlessly grind hours on end, and THEN have ridiculous mining targets to hit. I am not one of those players

[red sun]

The emphasis on grind-intensive gameplay this arc is dangerously approaching the point that players will forever stop engaging.
This arc with multiple hostile and mining grinds, combined with events requiring players to engage for 8-10 hours per day, is certainly a "jumped the shark" moment.
My advice to Scopely is a full abandonment of this arc. Send a comp chest for the remainder of the battlepass. Stop running the Flashpoint events. Run some weekly officer flashpass events, and save what you can of your playerbase before our entire community falls apart.
<@&509690795536941056>

[past shuttle]

Dropping like flies, and its sad to see all my friends leaving this grind fest game. Still loving trek but not feeling the same about this game. Maintenance mode incoming sooner than later with 10,000 people leaving in 3 months.

[stoic linden]

3 Months? Wasn't the info in Rev's video closer to 3 weeks.. ?

[drowsy elbow]

Quien abla español

[copper shadow]

the chart rev used if you're referencing that from his video is since end of May until now so just around 45 days 10k players left and thats active account not dead accounts who knows what's been archived rofl

[main radish]

Update: I have mined a total of 80 out of the necessary 5500 transogen to build the forge.

[noble parrot]

Yes. I'd like mine back.

[woven tulip]

Getting really tired of this 💩 , took me 3 days to get this cargo, 3 days! and not even close to doing event and get destroyed by ops 70 in very limited token systems! This Trans mining event is ridiculous i refuse to even bother with it anymore.

[rose rock]

I have the Ferengi Exchange Pass Overflow but it doesn't say where to get the points. "Unlock rewards by earning points in excess of the amount necessary to complete the Ferengi Exchange Pass"
Where would that be?

[past arch]

Check the tab where the wave Defense and territory passes are. I didn't see it at first.

[rose rock]

Thank you

[abstract roost]

After 6-7 yrs playing, this is the worst arc ever...no more $ from me.

[merry violet]

There are too many events, and they are messy and unorganized. If you want people to participate in them, you have to make them navigable and easily readable.

[terse vessel]

Make sure you read the requirements in case it includes new content you can't complete for that ferengi pass.

[high harbor]

I'm looking at the Flashpoint events starting in 36 hours. And... Nothing was fixed. Stage 3 of the SMS is still impossible.

I'm at ops 45. The SMS requires killing 4 rare Hurak Vanguard 45s to complete and start the Stage 4 mining SMS. I tried multiple crew and ship combos last time; I couldn't make a dent. Not a scratch. Across multiple attempts, the hull damage to the Vanguard was barely visible graphically. Yet I managed to rank in the damage SLB. Clearly, nobody else in my bracket could achieve it either! None of us got to Stage 4. None of us will this time, based on the upcoming event visible to me, even after Scopely insisted that the events were rebalanced.

Stage 3 IMS requires killing 4,236 vanguards. What server can achieve that? Come on, now.

How can Scopely fix this event in the next day and a half? Some ideas:

-Cripple the vanguards. Slash the strength of the weakest ones by, oh, 90+% to make them actually beatable with iso/invading entity crews meant for the task for players in the 40-45 range.
-Swap phase 3 and 4, so players can at least get to a mining phase as individuals and servers
-Replace phase 3 with something else, more mining or Hurak dropship hunting, for these lower levels that can't touch vanguards, then change the IMS to be completed SMS events rather than defeated Hurak vanguards, then reduce the number to a few hundred so a server can achieve it

As is, the Hurak events do not work. They're not viable. Players of all levels are skipping it. No servers can reach the end. This was supposedly rebalanced. If it was, I don't see how unless the in game events showing up are out of date somehow.

Compounding all of this, you made a series of missions tied into these IMS events. If you don't make the IMSes achievable... We will all have impossible missions stuck in our inventory space forever. That's so freaking annoying.

Did anyone playtest this BP? Seriously, did any single tester try using a typical ops 45 account to try these SMSes?

Of course, that's only half of it. You're layering mountains of other tasks on top. The Ferengi BP, the Chronicle of the Ascendant mini metas, both right after the Mak'ala week ended, layered on top of the transogen and Flashpoint event sets. All of them heavy grinds requiring huge investments of time and resources, many of them marked heroic but contributing to BPs and metas.

Did you expect a high completion requirement set of activities in a region with hazard damage and auto attacking ships, demanding constant attention to the app rather than enabling any passive play, to be popular? Did anyone think hiding new events across three or four different tabs was the easiest way for players to discover it?

Was the Ferengi pass announced? Chronicle? I didn't see either in the battle pass event schedule in the news board. If it was announced on Discord or via YouTube influencers, realize that most players mostly pay attention to this game only inside the game. I checked for a Syndicate XP event on the calendar today to decide how to participate in the faction rep SLB, for example; would I have spent more resources if I knew Chronicle would start with an SLB? I understand the virtue of some surprises, but everything being unannounced, unexplained, and confusing every single day is extremely off putting

Then, of course, there were the several hours in which the mountain of new events silently launched today populated as bugged out variable names and "Retrieving..." That was a fun mystery meat period.

So many players are telling you you ran this entire battle pass wrong, and it's only getting worse. Learn from this quick and adjust even faster, please. Every time this exact same thing happens, your team insists you've learned lessons. Perhaps show it.

[versed grotto]

Seems more like they are more focused on the spenders and not the casuals...

[orchid sigil]

How do you complete the Hurak Offensive Event? Do they give you a token to get into token space???

[raw bramble]

In summary of the above novel. Delete this new content and simply focus on current issues like I don't know, updating the games code or fixing existing bugs? Most of the Community would welcome 2 maybe 3 months of just fixes and recent/older content focus to allow for most mid level players to actually focus on specialty ships already released in the past year or 2.

[woven gyro]

<@&509690795536941056> I'm not usually one to whine about events, but this arc (and the KHAN before them) are out of control. Months ago we were told that "quality over quantity" is a goal, which I presume was due to player feedback.. and these two arcs feature grinds that are MUCH more intense than anything I've seen in a while. The tasks for the Hijacked (whatever) SMS's were silly high, to the point that even punching up it was a ton of runs to finish. And now this arc (part 1, no less) is even worse.. the grind for these Hurak hostiles is slow AND takes a ton of runs which are guaranteed repairs thanks to the system. Oh and now there's a new material to mine in the same system and it's super slow? For my top milestone at ops 40 and Transogen Forge 11 it would take me around 90-100hr of total mining. Not happening. There's a reason that people didn't complete the IMS's last week, nobody wants to spend to finish silly events that are a grind.

I really wish player feedback was taken seriously, and I really wish that the promises from the devs were delivered. I recognize that making a game like this that's threading the needle of "challenging where folks have to earn it, but not be bored" isn't easy, but it wouldn't have been difficult to understand that this is too much and for too long. I mean seriously, one monthly BP, a 'Feringie Exchange BP' (whatever that's all about), and all of the other daily events? This isn't quality over quantity, it's quantity quantity quantity.

[woven gyro]

I genuinely hope that the brass understands that the more junk that's thrown against the wall that people can't complete, the more people get accustomed to not being completionists.. and the more they fall out of habit of completing events, the more they'll just think "hey maybe I'll go spend my time doing something else" and quit the game. I'm not advocating for people to be STFC addicts, but the events aren't driving engagement, they're driving people away, and that's not a good thing for anyone. Players want engagement, not another BP to buy or weekly grind to drive them insane.. and "oh just buy the ship it'll make the grind super easy" isn't a valid answer.

[civic warren]

such 'fun' event design... with my mining speed and being dmged by the systems i need to sent my miner out 68 times (or with two more upgrades in the coming days maybe 60 times but still)
on average 6 times a day for the next 11 days sent a miner to a rare transogen system mining passively until it breaks and repeat. How is this fun and interactive gameplay 🤷‍♂️

[ashen ice]

Biggest pack in store is 1M syndicate exp. 3000$ to finish the SMS. You completely lost your mind now? Do you really expect anybody to go for that?

[stone glade]

Why do OPS 60 players have the same milestones as those with Selkies and better?
Do the event designers actually know that there is a “tiny” difference in mining speed?
OPS 60 belongs in the 58-60 bracket for something like this. How could anyone think of treating it differently?
And for the event designers who apparently no longer play the game themselves: there is no new faster miner with OPS 60.

They always say they listen to the players ... but nothing ever gets done.

(switch on slow mode so that fewer complaints can arise ... the perfect solution.)

[maiden condor]

I'm sorry but I don't take friend requests from strangers. Also, there'd be no point sending me this information privately because I would post your answer here nevertheless, as it affects thousands of players at least. The simplest solution would be: give tokens to new mining space daily instead of "at transogen forge building levels" and immediately increase the number of nodes in these token spaces as they're going to fill up like crazy. And adjust all your SMSs so that the task can be done by an average player in half an hour or less, not in 30+ hours during a course of 12 days!!! As the players above have mentioned, the new Chronicle of the Ascendant is also absolutely bonkers with "Foundations of Power" utterly undoable. I've upgraded buildings 20 times and not even done the first goal in this.

Note: if these SMSs are so unrealistic as to try and force people to buy packs, your sales or whoever comes up with such ideas should be picking rice in a rice field, not doing their job. It's not getting people to pay more. It's getting people to leave your game. More and more and more. At the moment, the only thing that's holding me in the game is the people in my alliance. I'd be playing something else if it wasn't for them, because the game itself stopped being fun with the previous arc and became unbearable with this arc.

[cosmic olive]

Let’s count all the events that are currently running at the same time:

3 Battles Passes (all with their own events and currencies)

• Standard Battle Pass
• Ferengi Battle Pass
• Wave Pass

2 Event Chains with their own events and currencies:

• Flashpoint
• Chronicle of the Ascendant

Plus all the daily tasks, plus relevant old content (Augments, Gorn, MU, Revenant, Krenim)

Who has enough time to do all of this and live a normal life with a job, family and friends?

[normal iris]

TBF I'm assuming the incoming maintenance will adjust those levels.

[ornate otter]

People are upset about the amount of time we need to play on the godforsaken game in order to complete the huge amount of dailies, battlepass and other events. What do scopely do in their infinite wisdom....
Well they decided adding a whole second battlepass to the already 💩storm of a game was the best idea.

Bravo Scopely. Guessing you are looking to beat your record of losing 10k active players in just over a month.

And if course... they are doing things to reduce grind apparently, and make it more fun. This is the kind of fun when.... I have the flu.... or am in a car crash.

This is not fun. This is not what anyone asked for. Scopely are disingenuous, lying, tone deaf, money gougers.

You will get no more money from me. Hell, you may no longer get any time from me either. Stick your mess of a game where the sun don't shine.

(If you want to boot me you can, but I am saying what many others feel)

[marble parrot]

What do i get from them?

Consistancy. Every time. You give them money every week and i know it be good. Every time

...scopeley on the other hand...i give you money every month..and ....

[errant wind]

Actually reading the comments on discord is currently better than playing the game , did my dailies , opened the chests and disappeared from the disaster of an Arc

[torn plinth]

I can get premium tokens from the SLB, that's cool! Surely there must be something cool to redeem them for.

[dreamy solstice]

why should any pilot , without any hazard resist attempt to play in any transogen system, the repair bills will be ridiculous

[torn plinth]

But it seems that's locked - so I can earn the premium currency but only redeem them if i buy the extra battlepass?

[tribal wharf]

Yes

[high harbor]

Update: Maintenance over. SMS and IMS not adjusted at all. Maybe they changed the Vanguards. I doubt it. "We're adjusting it" seems to be a lie unless it changes in the next day

[umbral badger]

Will there be a way to exchange those transogen canisters between the tiers?

[junior pond]

<@&509690795536941056> No GS-31 blueprints here? Can we get them added? This ship has been out a while now.

[ornate otter]

No change to IMS scores etc at all. Will need to be better sourcing for armada directives or just straight up giving them away because you still have a massively high bar for the IMS to be completed.

Sure I said it before but.... more tone deaf responses from Scopely. Feeling more and more obviously like Scopely is of the mindset of "pay, or you don't exist to us".

Think we have to accept that 98% of players literally do not matter to these money goblins

[wispy pier]

even the spenders aren't happy. most on my server have stopped spending.

[worldly grove]

Why are G5 ships still giving G4 parts in the TRANS Area?????????????

[sterile yew]

<@&509690795536941056> adding a couple systems at random levels doesn't help. Every player in our server from 60-67 was grinding in the lvl 58 system because 60+ was borked. Can you please add 1 or 2 extra systems for every level in the new systems. That is what your q and a answer sounded like not let's add 5 random level systems in. How is that going to help with overflowing of ALL systems?????

[mint berry]

Another garbage event for content that is ptp.

[novel totem]

<@&509690795536941056> Is this a sad joke or the complete negectance of your own statements? Some might even call this naive. According to https://stfc.wtf/flashpoint and my own recollection our server completed ~11% of that event. How does reducing the goal by ~50% achieve anything? We would have needed a reduction of ~90% to able to complete it. And a reduction of 95% so this actually makes fun and leaves time to complete the IMS4. While I don't see any (maybe) changed event store requirements for 3x refines of directives or their payouts, this is just taking a dump of 💩 into the players' faces, and shows once again the total disconnect of this month's arc runner to the game. Is there any QA process involved? Does anyone check the numbers?

[jaunty nacelle]

I have to agree with this 💯 It has become more satisfying reading discord than playing the game.

[subtle nest]

3 months now scopely has tuned events far too high and had to revise mid month and still out of reach of half the players. And again does it and says theres exo-comps to buy to make it better

[ornate otter]

Because us spending will make it better of course. Clearly we are at fault for not digging deep enough into our pockets for the overlords of scopely.

Honestly, if the people running the show had a clue, I think I'd be terrified. Another swing and a miss

[burnt willow]

Not all of these are actually scoring.

[maiden condor]

<@&509690795536941056> Thanks for that last update. Not.
A couple of days ago I was super excited going to deep space at 36 already, being able to do the missions, mine 4* materials already, explore, join bigger armadas... Thought that you actually reconsidered the dumb lvl 38 lockout through the mission and opened up these spaces to whoever can reach them.

Imagine my surprise just a few hours ago. And then reading on your official blog how you "fixed the bug that allowed players to circumvent the deep space lockouts".

Thankfully I'm pushing to 39 so I'm already 38 but we have several players in the alliance who have been, to put it bluntly, screwed over heavily by you "fixing the bug". And, no, it's not going to motivate them in any way to push with ops and then struggle and buy your overpriced packs. Their opinions are: they're now even less likely to ever pay a cent to your company for the way they're being treated. And seriously, the only thing in the new update/arc that they (and me) have been happy about is access to deep space.

How about the next "bug" you fix is the ability to freeze tails? I'd love you to do that and watch you lose more than 50% of your player base then.

Seriously... It's just getting worse with every. Single. Update. Unbelievable.

[grave rose]

1000% friendships are the only reason I’m staying but now have just started to give up on engaging in new content as it’s so obvious a cash grab and the lack of speed up sourcing (sigma) is meant to reinforce desire to spend well it just makes me not want to engage

[karmic dew]

With any bugs that benefit players, Scopely are very quick to undertake emergency maintenance to prevent them from actually making any progress. It left a bitter taste in my mouth as I had benefitted from it. It's funny that don't seem to apply the same level of urgency to bugs that actually interfere with game play and frustrate players. I'm voting with my feet and not giving Scopely any more money.

[subtle nest]

Business model is to create problems to sell solutions. They cant sell a solution if its not a bug the players see as a problem

[vague patio]

given how ive been mining in token the whole day, factoring sleep and times where i might not be on, i dont think ill be finishing this 😅 🤣

[sweet valve]

It's doable, but only if you own a Selke and send that ship over and over and over

[vague patio]

im ops 60, no way im going to 61 anytime soon. now other question is why on earth as a ops 60 im getting ops 70 milestones

[sweet valve]

That's been a day 1 bug. They screwed up thinking ops 60 has access to the Selkie. Frankly, they seem to have designed all these mining goals assuming you got your new building upgraded to your ops level on day 1.

[plush axle]

Any update on the wasted tokens to get to non-existing armadas?

[vague patio]

no no the devs are right. its cuz im too weak. the vrax should've had a 1trillion% mining rate if only i bought prime g5 mining rate for only $100000000. all ops 60 players could do it if we were stronger

[uncut sentinel]

I try to be respectful, I try to not scream as I am a low level 40 player, but the content is becoming a bit more painful. I mean to do some events I need to punch up to 45 and as I do not have the ships or the level this becomes a question of why. Thus increasing the gap between me and the pack. It is reasons like this that I stopped even buying the $20 pack. Come on <@&509690795536941056> you need to help explain to the organization designing that not everyone is going to move or invest money they do not have.

[wild pelican]

When will feedback ever be listened to?

[grave rose]

I think this image perfectly sums up the last 3 arcs

[vague patio]

nuh uh. you're not strong enough. its the players fault. WE are not strong enough. it cant be the devs fault

[uncut sentinel]

I do not have the fund to, hell limited resources have required I cut back on even buying the monthly $20 Elite Pack.

[wild pelican]

When devs drop events that take several hours to complete lol. I don't have that kind of time to mess with this heroic crud

[small rover]

Ain't it s'posed to be "Daily"? 🤔 Where's today's event for this pass?

[vague patio]

yea ik its a joke 😂

[wispy echo]

Yeah, paying for the elite track of the pass is a bad purchase if you can’t complete the pass.

[kind rapids]

Is there meant to be a new daily Ferangi Exchange task today? If so where's it meant to be?

[small rover]

I don't buy the passes, lol. Pure F2P player here. Context, Ops 29 here.

Edit: Ah, hang on.... Start timer on these is same as Pinnacle, innit....? But why is the HH done already if so?

[rare bloom]

These progress SMS and SLB missions are getting insane. Just in the last week or so I have gone from Ops 44 to 48, just trying to complete missions, now there is another high spending research mission but I have next to no RSS left. They really need to lower the milestones.

[wild pelican]

Kinda why I only do BP now and log off the rest of the day. Game asks too much.

[kind rapids]

It's not compulsory to complete or compete in every event. If you're ot of RSS that seems like a you issue.

[lusty lava]

I won 1200 Ferengi Premium Opportunity Chips from the SLB. In Event Store > Officers > I see that I cannot spend any without buying the FE pass. is that right - or am I looking in the wrong spot to spend them?

[small rover]

Yeahhhhhhhhhh, very odd ya can earn it but not use them if ya don't buy Elite Pass, lol.

[shadow trellis]

<@&509690795536941056> is there no daily ferengi event ?

[keen berry]

Seems that they did that on purpose

[lusty lava]

wow. ok. just making sure I guess. It's their game, I'm just playing it

[hollow wigeon]

Thankfully, the rest of the store is still accessible. The 100$ pricetag for the Elite-Path is ridiculous though

[hollow lichen]

Ah yes, another BP event forcing the entire server in the lvl60 freebooter system with minimal spawns. good job guys!

[viral kayak]

Scopely & stfc have lost touch with reality.. pull your craniums out of your rear!

[ornate jasper]

This really has been the scummiest month from Scopley

[runic meadow]

Don’t forget, we are in “The year of hell”

[weak shadow]

Wow, just spent tens of thousands of G4 only to get 3600 store currency. Have scrooge taken over ? And for the love of god dont buy the ferengi pass unless you can do the 24h one.

[hollow wigeon]

Same for this event ... 150 66s on autofarming ... ridiculous ...

[hardy niche]

Why does mirror dust not count for the event when trading down

[low remnant]

And why doesn't omega mirror dust count for this event?

[chrome abyss]

WHY in gods name must EVERY new event have these INSANELY high milestones, EVERY single time? Can scopely employees and contractors PLSE play the game too, so they understand they are terrorizing the playerbase?

[wild pelican]

It's not just a game. It's now a job you have to pay into 😂

[hollow lichen]

because they think that making things hard to do without buying packs will make people buy packs, but i've got some news for you scopely: that isn't working, especially in the current state of the game and your complete lack of understanding of the player base frustrations with you at this point

[valid bridge]

Rather than scattering all of the 24-48h hour events across three different tabs, and hiding them in folders with two week and month long events, can we get a single place where we can see what we need to do for the day? I feel like I need to log in every morning after reset and go through 6-7 pages of events to try to find out what my priority is for the day. It gets worse and worse with every new thing that's added.

[small rover]

Still nothing for the "Daily" Ferengi event

[subtle nest]

used a token and nothing is here!!! GG

[molten marlin]

#🛠-known-issues

contact support about the token

[vernal forum]

How I imagine the dev meetings leading up to this arc looked

[halcyon goblet]

still ridiculous

[fiery tangle]

While this event is live, the armadas for the event are not, it currently points you to a token system, do not go there for the event, they are not in game until the 17th. its in the #🛠-known-issues sinds the start of the event

[subtle nest]

ya, silly me saw the patch notes with amention of the rare and epic spawns getting a fix so i figured they fixed that too...

[fiery tangle]

i had the same thing just like 45 in before the post

[jaunty nacelle]

Close.. but more like this

[idle parcel]

The Q and A session showed that as well. I feel like I can't even put my phone down for 5 minutes. They are under the wrong impression that keeping us tied to our phones will make us spend money. Nope. More people have left the game than ever in just the last month. I don't want to mine for hours a day, and I sure don't want to keep having to hit reds hours a day either. Then, to make matters worse, their one event only has me using 6 star mats to score, for even though I'm ops 62, I barely have research that have 6 star. The ones that do have already been used. What total garbage 💩 this game has become.

[vocal willow]

<@&509690795536941056> So I am trying to verify this, I won these credits in this event and now I have to buy the elite ferengi pass to use the credits I won??

[vernal forum]

Yeah you only won the right to buy the pass to use the tokens

[cold sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sf-faith-works-we-know-that-penny-leonard-big-bang-theory-gif-17645959

[vernal forum]

This implies that it made sense to some

[idle parcel]

This is what this game feels like being on right now, surrounded by hundreds of dumpster fires.

[civic sphinx]

Honestly scopely. I wont even bother doing these event. Not gonna grind 150+ hostiles on top of everything else. Same goes for the Ferengi battlepass, not gonna buy it if i have to mine and kill all these armada (probably wont even finish it). Big no this arc. Please listen to people for once when they say they don’t need more grinds

[hardy niche]

Love autofarming 60 hostiles at 65 so I get unusable loot, 10/10 game design you schmucks

[fierce belfry]

Can we ratchet back the number of kill exile events please? I still haven't mentally recovered from the last arc.

[vale musk]

381x66 autoattack... its just ****

[runic meadow]

Well, one part of the promo video was right, the arc has brought the community together………………..not in the way they hoped, but at least that is one thing they kinda got right.

[hollow wigeon]

Guessing you are OPS 70 ... 😉
But yeah, they are ridiculous...

[neat condor]

Why the gaslighting about the new Fueling the Fire SMS, Scopely? You are giving less rewards than the March of Progress event that was replaced, and hurting G4 progression. Give G4 their March of Progress back.

[cedar bay]

Well, it took me less than 24hrs to regret the Ferengi Battlepass purchase. If you understand that the grind is getting old and overwhelming then WHY is the Ferengi daily yet another ABSURD Augment grind?! Reaching. My. Limits.

[kind rapids]

It seems like only yesterday we were told how feedback about too much grind had been heard loud and clear, yet today, stupidly high Augment target. Not sure if it's dishonesty or incompetence.

[sullen coral]

It's both......probably

[frank osprey]

Are you people serious? You didn’t fire these guys yet? All this is is the 2-day event cut in half with no scoring changes. So instead of 610 in 2 days. I only need 305 in 1 day.

Oh and started at the correct time but wasn’t displayed so minus 3hrs.

[cold sandal]

I'd have to kill ~ 304 exiled. NOT.going.to.happen.

[terse prism]

Please please please - Can we have a normal spend SMS and SLB please - G4, G5 and G6.....my play us stalling due to being locked into only G6 spending.

[shadow trellis]

Yep wish I hadn’t bought the battlepass now

[terse lodge]

because they don't play thier own game to relize it's there

[cinder flame]

All of this has taught me how to overcome FOMO, because so many of these events aren't possible to complete. So I'm going to do what I can and ignore the rest. Also, I'm not buying any Battle Passes or any other packs because all of this. The only thing keeping me on this game are my friends, but as they leave it gets harder to stay myself.

[turbid barn]

I'm ops 66 and the sheer amount of mining and grinding on this arc is ridiculous. In game time should be 1 to 2 hours not a vast majority of the day. Please fix this

[heavy sentinel]

I agree with the sentiment above. The number events continues to increase. As some have noted, the difficulty for some is hard and is turning people off. Others are getting turned off by the sheer number of events facing them each day. We have tried to encourage our alliance to have an attitude of "it's a game, it's meant to be fun. Do what you like and leave the rest." That helps some but we're still seeing active players go dark. If that trend continues it will snowball.

The issue is the amount of time the game seems to increasingly demand just to keep up.

[heavy ivy]

I'm kinda curious who the dev is that is driving the Heroics SLB's and SMS's that punish the players that have been actually playing the game and not waiting for the Devs to tell them when they can level

[junior pond]

The accountant that runs the finances.

[terse lodge]

they said they were fixing it the points from the first run. they fixed it by putting heroic on it. so it's "all better" <@&509690795536941056> right?

[sweet valve]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-scroogemcduck-donaldduck-ducktales-ebenezerscrooge-gif-4803444

[heavy ivy]

I'm guessing that's also what happened to them saying they were adding in more systems to relieve stress of trying to find a mining spot or not having to fight over a few hostiles, got lost in translation

[terse lodge]

even better is they have ships listed for points that aren't even in the game. so if you can find the mythical systems they spawn in it'll be easier I guess. L50 transports, L62 runners and whatnot.

[turbid barn]

Expanding on this. I've got 5 docks grinding and 3 mining trans. Been 3 hours and I haven't finished the 1 day event. On top of that, all the loot from my ships that are in the highest systems that the hazard won't kill them, is useless. Oh, and the weekend spend event wasn't even for a new officer. Not to mention the recent crucible event had you doing just about everything possible in the game to earn the privilege of buying one of the new officers. Scopely is not being good to its player base

[cold sandal]

The whole company must be a huge mess- one hand doesn't know, what the other does…that's most likely the reason, why things are more and more ferked up…

[heavy ivy]

if you are talking about the hurak offensive one, its cause they didnt program it to start with the event and have no idea why it points to a token system but that should have been fixed ASAP so people are not wasting tokens looking for something that spawns tomorrow after reset

[junior pond]

The not being able to use the lower level loot when you have to hit down is a frustrating thing that did not have to be set up that way, yet here we are.

[terse lodge]

nope the current heroic SMS. L50, L60, L66 transports, 62 runners, 68 runners aren't in the game as far as I can find.

[wooden tusk]

Scoplay,,,, was the elite BP $20 only offered for a limited time,,, it’s no longer in the event store….

[heavy ivy]

this isnt new, it was the way silent hostiles were also set up. Pretty sure it got the same reception back then

[idle parcel]

@lilac edge I, along with many others, saw your response to my question. I suggest you watch Rev Deuce's response to it, as he points out how out of touch with the player base you are. He also shows how people are leaving the game in droves.

Personally, I found your response to be neither funny nor helpful. In fact, it was quite dismissive and condescending.

Furthermore, it made no sense whatsoever. So, we are meant to do several new loops to reduce the current loops?

Before your new bosses took over, we had a Dev team that listened to us, hence the Freebooter systems. But, now, we are doing 4-5 times more now prior to the Freebooters. How in the world is that a QOL improvement?

As an ops 62 player, you drip speedups to us, whereas prior to Ops 61, it was easy to get other speedups, and far less expensive to use lat. 1.5m lat for one day, or something like that. Are you kidding me?

As an ops 62, I have hazards to mine and hit, along with regular ones. Granted, both can be done together, but as far as mining goes, you give us like 10 nodes in a system, or less, with all this space.

Plus, you recently forced a server to merge with ours, so there's that. Double the people, with the same, lousy amount of nodes.

Also, hitting 61 up of FKR reds doesn't even count towards the other Freebooters. That makes no sense.

Your new loops are increasingly complicated, and the events are impossible for people with jobs, families, lives, and sanity, to complete.

You obviously don't play the game. Many frequent spenders in my alliance are closing their wallets due to your deafness towards the players.

If you want to tank the game, then keep going on this current trajectory. Just do us all a favour and close the game now, as many of us are on the verge of uninstalling this game and closing our accounts.

I haven't even addressed the many bugs that cause us to waste even more time having to restart several times a day.

I suggest reading comments here.

[keen torrent]

Ops 25 account expected to kill new Augments for the Ferengi event, Likely not gonna happen for too many

[molten marlin]

It has scoring for the og augments for your level

[oblique ore]

Can you please remove the Augment killing event finally from the scheduler. They are absolutely awful. Why i must kill stupid over 200 hostiles for a event. NOBODY have fun here.

[low remnant]

<@&509690795536941056> I want to provide some feedback on the Chronicles of the Ascendant spend event:

First off - I think this is a huge improvement over the weekly SLBs. The mix of SLBs, SMSs, Metas, etc gives a lot of opprunities for people to score beyond just spending money and winning.

I also like that I can use more than just mats to score for the event. Artifact upgrading, DTI credits, FT stuffs. Its all really good.

Finally - the mix of rewards, from lots of the new officer shards to some choice tokens is great.

I hope this event comes back with a few tweaks:

1. Allow us to use mats from below our grade to score. Otherwise, this event is going to encourage us to stay in a generation of the economy until we are entirely done with it, before moving up. This means we will grow slower, not faster, as y'all seem to be pushing us to do.

2. Don't forget about other / older loops with the spending faction credits. Why couldn't Bajoran Credits count for something? What about Arena Credits? What about ex-borg credits? I get the most recent content is the priority for y'all - but the older content is still something many players, especially in G3 and G4 are still interacting with.

3. Today was reserach, and only mirror dust counted. Omega mirror dust didn't count for some reason? Why aren't assebly medals and the service awards counted? What about the rogue research credits, the starship research nodes, nova squadron particles, rodinium, cosmic particles, etc etc etc.

4. The one downside to this event style is it wraps up a ton of previous spend events into one, but it doesn't give syndicate xp, which was previously one of the more valuable aspects of certain spend events.

If this event became a comprehensive spending event – once per month – where we could spend our mats, research particles, faction credits, etc AND receive a smattering of new officer shards, officer choice tokens, and syndicate? This might be the greatest spend event that I can think of.

[oblique basin]

Hurak Vanguards and Honourguards - says spotted in T'Aiek. 1) That costs a token. 2) No they aren't in there. Really ?!??! - re Seasonal Ferengi Exchange: Hurak Offensive event.

What a waste of a token.

[sonic robin]

#🛠-known-issues message don't ask me why they haven't pulled the event until the armadas are live

[vernal forum]

Are QOL improvements even QOL improvements if you have to pay for them?

[keen torrent]

Ifrea and Olassa did not score me points. The event wording points towards new Augment

[molten marlin]

are regular augments

exiles start at 26

[idle parcel]

Exactly. They aren't. I don't know what their obsession is with wanting us to do hours of screentime a day. Pretty much all the regular events can be done in 5 minutes or so. Feeling stressed and overwhelmed over a game is not good QOL. I can't even keep up with all these events.

[obtuse shuttle]

Today research heroic on CoTA. Don't worry tomorrow will be building again. Forget ship because there are a lot of people that would complete it too fast for them to make it worth while to them.

[cold sandal]

Answer is: More screentime leads to more frustration and thus to a higher possibility, for ppl to buy packs to simply get it over with/rid of whatever task it is that frustrates them.

[sweet valve]

I could actually earn the officers on the old events. You had 3 whole weeks to earn the officers even if you didn't win a SLB. Now it's a mad dash to spend money. It's objectively worse.

[low remnant]

Not my experience in my bracket, I’m easily winning, hardly spending any mats because I hoard all the currencies. I would take this over the previous version any day.

[quick kettle]

I love STFC and the community but this arc will be the downfall of it. Especially if this is the precursor to G7, when everything becomes about your wallet size and not strategy it is no fun.

[fading veldt]

These shouldn't be located here they aren't season passes and I've missed out on events😭😭😭!!!

[sweet valve]

You haven't missed anything YET

[fading veldt]

Yes I have! And can't score on other events as there aren't any interceptors in the systems

[trail grove]

looks like this was recently patched out. RIP

[worldly cedar]

I have no clue what this “game” is about anymore. So many loops grinds mines. I’m retired and don’t have enough time to do it all. QOL was promised. Quality over quantity was promised. It is only because of the great team I’m in that I am still here. There is a new wave in the game and that’s people waving goodbye.

[quiet furnace]

i don’t know how the lower lvls can complete the CotA SMS daily’s as they require way to many resources or spending of items that were just spent in recent other events such as WOK. as a lvl 34. i don’t have the items or credits or ability to upgrade buildings to complete events and get a score of the overall event

[bronze holly]

Augment Exiles for the battle pass event - new level of fear in purchasing to participate.

[subtle nest]

Ah cmon, you know deep down that you want to pay to grind more 😛

[idle parcel]

For those with a gaming addiction, perhaps, which Scopely preys upon, but the numbers aren't lying. Many are not bothering with the game at all and have even closed their accounts. Spending on the have when they purposely frustrate players is the old dangly carrot scenario. It will never be enough. You ops up and get better ships, then what you need to hit gets stronger and longer. If we actually enjoyed the game, maybe some would open their wallets again. But, many in my alliance have said no more. All everyone talks about these days is how miserable they are playing this game. It's not fun anymore.

[sacred scarab]

It is unbelievable that this is still up as it's been since launching yesterday morning. It's not some complex bug fix, it would have taken 30 seconds to remove the text pointing to the incorrect system and saved people from wasting tokens. That it's just been left like this goes beyond neglect into open contempt for your playerbase

[ornate otter]

I would love to write more about the shameful practices of Scopely. The predatory nature of fully weaponizing FOMO. The utter contempt, disrespect, lack of appreciation, shown by Scopely towards its faithful players. The companies inability to fix things that have been broken FOR YEARS.

But they won't read this..... community managers will pick and chose easy questions and flat out ignore the big concerns of players. Players that have made your company a lot of money.

Only thing I can liken this too is organ harvesting. Taking the last vestiges of value from a dying player base.

You don't care. You don't even pretend to care. It's all gaslighted and fake platitudes. And now your player base resents and despises you. Good job

[sinful heart]

I will say, muting me for a week did nothing to change the mood of the player base. I think folks have been saying it far better than me.

[copper shadow]

was wondering where you were i usally see you at least once a day on average giving scopley some feedback and tbh most of the time you're way more constructive and polite than I am lol @sinful heart

[idle parcel]

Wow, they muted you? That's 🐂💩. Yep, even those in my alliance are all talking about how 💩 these events are. The mood has worsened, I'd say.

[frank osprey]

I noticed I picked up some special Ferengi tokens to use on the store from placing in the Foundations LB yesterday but can't use them unless I have the elite BP unlocked, which I am not about to buy. So win tokens I can't use unless I pay you $20. That count as extortion? Coercion? Scumbag corpo tactics?

[naive inlet]

AKA "Poverty" Line 🫠

[cinder flame]

They should return the tokens to everyone who wasted them on this mission. there is No excuse for this level of incompetence from Scopely.

[frank osprey]

Did you play the WoK pt1&2? This level of incompetence seems to be their new mantra. No one working on any events during WoK pt1&2 through the Flashpass and now the Ferengi BP plays STFC. There is no way they do. So yes, their brand now seems to be incompetence.

[left marlin]

If you’re going to have any more Events that require us to beat Hurak Vanguards, then you need to change the Targ Tag turn ins so that Vanguard Directives are guaranteed with each pull. Otherwise, there will be players out there who won’t be able to finish the Vanguard Events, even though they’ve been grinding Dropships, yet RNG decides to screw them over by denying them enough Directives

[sinful heart]

They are behaving worse than even the lottery does with scratch off’s as far as the money side is concerned.

On the gaming side of it, well it is quite obvious that none of them play, except for the ones who play as rabbits on the servers, but that doesn’t give a realistic viewpoint in any sense of the word. And their hubris and or contempt for any dissenting opinions or concerns ensures this will not change.

The examples of all this are there, not going to restate them. Man, 10k folks leaving the game on 45 days. I have seen several on my server, even the whale fleets and struggling to get active players.

Then you have them negating the value of our mat spends, especially those at the beginning of their respective grades and instating grind after unreasonable grind.

You want to kill a game Scoply, this is how you do it.

[spark radish]

The ridiculous thing is this massively encourages my playstyle, which is stay very low ops and get everything, which is the opposite of what they seem to want people to do.

[solemn tide]

<@&509690795536941056> guys seriously... how can you guys be so out of touch from reality???? you expect players to grind the new aug exiles, along with transogen grind and mining, AND regular events AND dailies... do you see a common theme???? you all need to understand people that play this game do have ACTUAL REAL LIVES... this game is not our existence

[sinful heart]

I do the same, and the beginning of g5 and now g6 (ops 61 dolphin (monthly bp and occasional pack) now f2p) both have made me want to pull what remaining hair I have left out.

Now I basically do dailies and done. And pick at things as I feel like and if I have time. Scoply has not encouraged me, they have cured my FOMO though. 😁

[low remnant]

Yup. Recent changes mean I’ll be staying in G4 until I’m done with all of G4. I will buy the monthly BP and occaisinally an extra BP. But if they’re going to punish me for moving up economy generation, then I’ll just stay here until I’m done with it all.

[spark radish]

It's bizarre. Every time they do something like bonus G4 refinery or whatever, and say 'this is the perfect time to go to G5' it's really just time to save up stuff for the next massive spend thing they want done, which will go along with a new hostile killing thing that I can manage at 42, but would be practically impossible if I jumped up to 51.

[cinder flame]

The Power Creep Task under Daily Events is not scoring

[low remnant]

Yup. I’m en route to 46 for the Pilum so I can do the rare canister exchange and farm higher level augments easier, and then after that not sure when I’m going to ops up again. I’d like the extra dock at 48…. I’d like an epic at ops 50. Beyond that, no clue or desire to move up

[spark radish]

You can do all that stuff without Pilum if you just seriously upgrade everything. You're
ĽęÇJŘVŴìłľíæmş right?

I just looked up your server and I can't say I understand it.

[sweet valve]

From what I’ve seen, that line was set so high that only the fattest whales can touch it.

[low remnant]

I am. I actually can do everything but the rare canister pull in my G3 Ent, just want things to be a bit easier, and a bit more warp range will be beneficial (and plus I can start working towards the solo waves and GS31 officers too).

In terms of my server - this is what a server looks like when they ascend it 3 times in 4 months it’s baaaad.

[scenic summit]

First off scopely I don’t like having to come in here to post venting remarks but this needs to be looked at.

But why is your updated ims stage 2 still more kills (about 1.5 times) the number that it was reduced down to last week with the points awarded modified.

Sever 24 needed 115k points (kills) last week just for stage 2 and with the thankfully modifier that went down to 57.5k kills (after the 38k from IMs 1) this upcoming one we need still the 38k and then another 76.54k (we finished stage 2 with about 1day 12 hours last time) this one is harder even though you said you were changing the numbers based on difficulty complaints.

Based on stfc statistics we only have 1,993 accounts total with and average ops of 42.7. You expect under 2,000 players to hit 115k hostiles really. And then still have time for sms 3 and 4 without making this our life outside of and for some people within work.

Out of the 2k only 900 are above 46 which is really might be the bear minimum for the hostiles an pushing it on the ie’s.

IMS stage 3 dropped around 50% which might be on the edge of possibility if all the IMs could atleast retroactively score.(hold points collected until in unlocks then give the points earned so far). As no server even got to the 25% last run. And it should be dropped to 25% if retroactively score is not a thing and directives are going to stay a chance.

Let alone the points needed for stage 4 might only be possible if they retroactively scored over the 4 day but no one can know as no one has got that far yet.

In other words lower the milestones of all the IMs’s for week 2 before they start. Still have 8 hours and some minutes from this post.

[vestal ether]

IMS Stage 2 requirements are still too high despite a reduction last week. The current requirements are unrealistic for the number of active players and the time constraints.

[scenic summit]

Yep that is my point in a quicker and smaller way.

[open panther]

Only having one $99 BP for the Ferengi 10-day mini-arc is a slap in the face! Just another in a long line of slaps to your player base starting from promising QoL upgrades for YEARS that we haven’t seen, and in their absence just more content that is money grab after money grab. The WoK arc was unachievable for most player and Scopely ADMITTED that. What do they do next, put out flashpoint AND this Ferengi travesty that are both impossible for anyone with a job and/or a family. Scopely can talk to us about the “challenge” they want to create, and I agree that if the events were too easy it would be boring too. But two monthly arcs in a row and a 10-day arc that are the same overly complicated and unobtainable is not “rebalancing”, it’s incompetence! Why would any of us even spend 99 cents on this Ferengi pack when we can’t get to any of the reward tiers?

[molten marlin]

there's two versions, like always

[potent solar]

Another terrible, needlessly complex arc, on top of another arc that created more grind more specialty whatever blah blah. Actually was doing a decent job of getting rid of grinds for a second..... then quadrupled down on new ones. Really? Definitely a blatant unrepentant cash grab and a slight to your player base scopely.

[open panther]

Awesome… good to know. What about the rest of my comments/points? See, this is why scopely needs a PR team overhaul. I don’t know if you are an unpaid mod on this channel, or a scopely employee, but I see you defending scopely and counter-pointing a lot of the feedback on these channels. Instead of picking at one point in a flippant manner, how about addressing the other 90% of my feedback? What is scopely actually doing to improve STFC? That Q&A recently was just… I’m not going to type the adjectives because I’ll get banned… not good!

[open panther]

Silence…good to know. Before I get banned for my rant here’s my final comment. I was in the store looking to see if there is a pack I could buy with FKR faction credits so I can build my rotarran. The faction credit grind is one of the OG grinds and continues today. Instead I’m presented top-billing for this $99 pack for an unobtanium arc. Yes, it triggered me. But darn it, just scroll up and realize I’m not the only one. Yes, these types of feedback threads and going to be negativity and I’m sure there are some whales that are happy as clams with these arcs. I know a lot of players on the VIP servers too, and almost universally the feedback is negative. This has been building frustration for years and we as players are just hoping that at some point scopely is going to address the root of the major problems in STFC; screen time/grinds, unstable GUI, and dead content/items that clog up our inventory and by extension the server ping/lag. 🎤⬇️

[hollow lichen]

I thought scopely wanted players to stop hoarding upgrade parts for special events? So they reduce payout for the building and special ship upgrade events past few months to the point of useless and NOW you do an heroic event needing every type of upgrade under the sun for an officer unlock. So what you actually say is don't progress a single bit unless an event is pushed for it.... change your loading screens to match that please

[near wyvern]

who's bright idea was it to split events into 3 different tabs. Season Passes, Events, Flashpoint Events, it's difficult to keep up with what needs doing. Only just found the Daily Ferengi exchange 🙃

[maiden condor]

I think I understand what Scopely means by "challenge".
They want to challenge us to stay in the game despite them making it worse and worse with every update.
That's the real challenge.
Only true hardcores will stay.
Or are they challenging themselves to stay on the market as they drive away their own customers?

[toxic wraith]

So you reworked G4 refinery earlier like 8 months ago changing refines to 13 chest pulls, now you up it to 15, great thing is G5 is still 2,3,4, so where's the incentive

[idle parcel]

If this game were a restaurant, it would be shut down by the health department for all the bugs.

I'm glad to see all the negative comments on here, as it's pretty universal that pretty much everyone hates these events of the last few months.

10,000 bailing on the game in 45 days is huge. Are they trying to get the game down to one server before closing shop?

You know it's bad when people who are retired and have free time say they are having a hard time with completing all these events.

After these slaps in the face, Scopely has the nerve to still want our money. When even the whales start holding back, then it will be done.

[urban violet]

Unfortunately the game is just becoming like treading water....more and more is thrown at us and we are slowly all sinking.....where is the fun even the social in that...

[heady glacier]

In all honesty. 2more loops, and game is dead. It’s already at the tipping point trying to keep up. STFC is a machine that will consume itself in a few months tops

[terse lodge]

people have been saying that for a couple of years, but it's actually feeling like this is real this time.

[craggy elm]

if the numbers are right ~4.5% of the player base stopped playing from may to july.

[heady glacier]

The vengeance was proof imo of how desperate times have become

[runic meadow]

You would have to compare the figures year on year, it’s natural for people to progress up then jack it in, don’t get me wrong the game is a big massive 💩at the moment. But the figures Rev was showing mean nothing without further context.

[spark radish]

Ah, that makes sense now about your server... That's incredibly fast ascensions.

[heady glacier]

3 ascensions in 4 months is what keeps fueling this machine. New whales are constantly being pumped out in the race to 50, 60, etc. as long as that trend continues the game can sustain itself. Unfortunately the loops and grind are going to catch up with their plan and it will all crumble. That’s the piece of the puzzle the managers seem to have overlooked

[proven sparrow]

Spent as much Materials as i had on rubbish research/ buildings and upgrading unused ships.
Spent as much MU Materials as i could even on research i don't really need (all capped at level 8)
Sped up as much away team missions as i could for additional Pioneers Crests to burn on research
Upgraded every Artifact i possibly could including unlocking the Mastery Artifacts
Spent every ounce of FT/CT materials on upgrades that I could possibly upgrade

And still could not finish this SMS
They are no longer Heroic, they should be labelled Legendary

[terse lodge]

this is why I have little interest in upgrading Ops levels. all it does is bring higher levels of bs that aren't realistic. every time I go up, the usual events always seem like much more of a drag because what I could get done in a short trip or a a few but maybe rough upgrades becomes impossible. seems ops 42-46 was a ok spot. everything beyond that just seems unappealing. <@&509690795536941056> would hope they would just rebalance the whole scheme for more incentive to ops up. but I don't have much hope based on the last two arcs.

[proven sparrow]

my most enjoyment in the game was at ops 42, after that the second best was at ops 50 (once i maxed out the epic G4 ships)
past that the games brackets and requirements to finish events has been horrible and has really sucked all the enjoyment out of the game and ive seen screenshots of people that have showed me bracket goals as soon as someone becomes ops 61 and the targets are around 7x more and costs to open chests etc cost 7x more.

They really suck the life out of you and enjoyment out of the game the higher you go

[jolly hound]

Are there no longer proper Syndicate earning events? All I've seen is that dumb SLB.

[delicate marlin]

I have absolutely zero drive to complete any of these events. The game has clearly shifted to a cash required mindset. Completely lost interest at this point. The UI is terrible. Events are scattered and disorganized. Hundreds of different hostiles are required daily. And I’m not weak for my ops level. Games a chore at this point. Ops 46 and I need to kill Almost 400 hostiles to complete a non “heroic” event

[terse lodge]

in the stream after that he goes over more data and his viewer numbers. around 23 minute mark. not sure if that is what you are looking for.

[ashen notch]

<@&509690795536941056>, So let me get this straight. The IMS score requirements were cut in half, but the score per hostile was also reverted back to 1 point per kill (in half)? Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't this essentially make it so there was no change in scoring from the last IMS and therefore we're right back to the IMS still being impossible to complete?

[heady glacier]

Agree. Interest is at an all time low. All I live for these days is hostile/damage events. I just enjoy pushing the envelope. If not for that, I wouldn’t be here anymore

[novel mango]

So many events these days I just look at and think nope not worth the effort.

[humble sleet]

<@&509690795536941056>

Tons to say about this arc but I want to point out something problematic with the Chronicle Events

You can’t spend the ** Ferengi Premium Opportunity Chips** you earn from the event(s) without buying the linked BattlePass.

Can you clarify if this is intended or an oversight.
Honestly I think the answer is going to impact the communities opinion of the event even further. If we are forced to spend $ to even use the rewards we won I have trouble seeing a positive response.
(Edited for content and format, posting on a phone makes me all thumbs)

[frank sequoia]

OK, I got it ... you want to demotivate low paying players and you are doing it very well. Congrats, you are on the right way. Maybe some whales will pay you on the empty servers, play this events for 24 hours, but you abcdefd it for the rest. Well done, great job!

[novel mango]

They just hoped no one would notice.

[main marlin]

I asked this yesterday, can we get an answer if it was intentional. 😡

[limpid galleon]

where is the hurak loot exchange?

[lucid idol]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Hurak Exchange has not opened along with the Hurak events....

also, why are these xslbs now? Intraserver competition didn't yield enough spending so now trying to up the ante? Pathetic. This arc has been a complete farce, more convinced than ever that you're trying to drive people away from this game. Won't be satisfied until it's just the biggest spenders all duking it out to spend the most money on one single whaletastic server?

[rose ice]

From patch notes-

Addressed an issue where Flashpoint systems filled entirely with Epic Invading Entities (IE), leaving no Rare IE available. Rare IE now spawn consistently.

https://startrekfleetcommand.com/news/update-80-1-flashpoint-strange-new-worlds-pt-1-patch/

That characterization doesn't match what I'm seeing

L46 is all epic Honorguard
L50 (Reeka) is all rare Vanguard
L50 (Unas-Tol) has neither

[umbral path]

Still can't kill L40 Hurak Dropship and I'm OP42 (new).

So, for next 6 months I can't participate in event.

What's the point of me playing, Scopely? Seriously.

[ashen notch]

<@&509690795536941056>... Starship Acendancy is straight up BS. How are people who have maxed ships or ops locked ships supposed to score? Even buying packs wouldn't help in these scenarios.

[dark horizon]

why not add all the ships ? where are the vidar and talios ? meridian ? amalgam ? who knows what else

[supple berry]

just out of curiosuty why whould you put an event that is based on a hostile that is linked to the player level, i thought the whole point of scilent hostiles was to hit the specific hostiles now you are saying well phyc just hit whatever you just wont get a benefit other than completing the event

[humble sleet]

The answer is clearly to raise OP’s 🤣 (lol not that I will)

[lucid idol]

Talk with your wallets people, money is the only language these leeches understand

[dark jewel]

Okay so you gave me some events that I could complete without spending and without grinding all night. And thank you very much. But since we pushed everybody up, the 65 silent system is going to become like the 405 for the event.

[viscid phoenix]

If it requires you to spend money, then of course it was intentional. 😉

[dark jewel]

If you want me to just hit any silent hostiles in order to complete the event then you should be giving me tokens to go in there. Tokens for that system are too valuable to just spend them at any level and not get a benefit in the refinery. So as I said elsewhere, there's some going to get some very very very very very crowded systems.

[hardy belfry]

<@&509690795536941056> It’s hardly rewarding when, after celebrating your first‑place finish in the CdA SBL event, you discover you need to buy the Premium Ferengi Pass to use half of your prize (the Ferengi WoK Scotty Chest tokens). It feels a bit like betrayal.

[neat thorn]

How do I even do these events when I 3 chest pull the hurak targ tag exchange and get ZERO armada start tokens. None at all…… how do I even do stage 3 if I can’t start any solo armada things?

[late orchid]

You chuckleheads didnt fix anything on these flashpoints. Didnt listen to the community at all...

[rose ice]

Currently having to target L45 epics just to pull the chest

Which I assume pay out less than L50 epics would

This is not consistent with the characterization in patch notes
@storm ridge @normal cosmos

[worldly tiger]

Yesterday there was a flashpoint event listed as starting today for refining transogen and it is not active or listed anymore

[molten marlin]

It's ims 4 and sms 4

you have to complete the previous 3

[late orchid]

If you think the community is too stupid to notice you reduced the requirements but took the kill points back to 1 as well... and that it is essentially the same stupid grind as last time...yeah we noticed.

[frank osprey]

ARE YOU SERIOUS? I don't know how much more proof we need to show no one listens to the players and the people there making the game do not play it.

[dark jewel]

I saw this old TV show called gomer Pyle and he'd say something like surprise. Surprise surprise. And that's what I think when I read your comment. What did you think?$vopley was going to do. You know they lost 10,000 players in 3 months. And I see a lot of frustration. I think the only players they want are the ones that start the game today and move to ops 60 plus in weeks. They don't want anybody else. They only want those and everybody else can just go and....

[dark horizon]

If I would start the game today I would probably quit in weeks though. The game used to be simple, with some events and a few mechanics. They added so much bloatware that I need reminders on what to do and where to refine/exchange and what is needed where. Too much to learn for a new player.

[fluid gust]

i don't think the new IMS phase 3 target is going to help any, still miles away from anything reasonable.

and getting the loot for directives is still going to be hours of grind...

[worldly tiger]

well, one, that is an annoying thign about the way the "preview" events are listed, I understand there are limitations to the interface, but it could have jsut said somewhere how it was gonna work... but also, and most importantly... one of the few ewevents i can even do anything with in this dang arc... is reliant on the whales of my server deciding it's worth it to spend hundreds of dollars on directives?

[molten ridge]

Killing reds but not getting points. Your game is trash.

[rigid crown]

For the 6G community, unless you‘re ops 70, this xslb is a lost cause anyway. Perhaps that‘s the quality of life that 61-69s get by ignoring it?

[molten marlin]

#🛠-known-issues

[rigid scroll]

Teir 3 of the first stage of dropships stopped scoring.

[dark horizon]

#BringBackScoringForLowerGradeMats - if at 5* ops, my epic 4* should be relevant then it should score in the event when upgrading it

[modest marsh]

How is a lvl 40 supposed to even score 1 point in the Hurak offensive sms?

[glossy atlas]

This is way too much, there are way too many events going on that take a lot of grinding - what are y'all thinking

[dusky fjord]

SNW dropped 2 episodes of season 3… AWESOME… that’s how you take care of your fan base

[sinful heart]

Yup, that’s the threshold for revolution in the civil side of things. When a population reaches those numbers in protest regimes change.

In this world, games die.

They need to turn the PSYOP division to that fact, rather than trying to foster FOMO.

[near valve]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-no-gif-23142380

[royal fossil]

IMS is functioning as a SMS.

Just give the rewards out and delete this dumpster fire of an event

[chrome abyss]

Days

[heady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/maisie-williams-arya-stark-game-of-thrones-tell-them-the-north-members-north-members-gif-9258307

[sonic robin]

Check again, IMS stage 1 is now a SMS, better get grinding mate

[sweet valve]

Scopely math. Ins't it wonderful?

[naive folio]

I was 32 points away from completing the stage 2 SMS..... Now all of a sudden I haven't even completed the first milestone??? What the heck did you change!!! Where did all my points go?????

[molten marlin]

Your sms wasn't touched, the IMS was what reset, and that's for your entire server. It's being looked into.

[naive folio]

Well something else is happening then because all of a sudden I'm not even close to finishing stage 2 SMS... As I said, I was 32 points away from completion 15 minutes ago. Now The event is showing that I have only finished the 1st milestone. I have an entire inbox of 300 Dropship kills, that is definitely more than meeting the 1st milestone goal!

And I'm not able to submit a ticket for this, as I already have two others in for additional issues.

[stone glade]

Cancel that stupid Flashpoint Run. Rework and retry in a few days

[late orchid]

So now you hust decided to reset ims point totals? Wow you guys are really batting a 1000 for such craptacular arc...

[naive folio]

Man, the least you can do is reply and tell me you're looking into it.

[near fiber]

Well we had points in here and now they're all gone. I finished my Flash events, so there should be something in there.

[scenic flint]

@full swan since there's an event and SLB for spending specialty ship parts, can we get some sort of exchange store thing for the ships parts of already maxed specialty ships?

I swear yall did something like that for other similar events

[novel mango]

Its DOA like so many features a few days won’t do anything.

[glacial verge]

These Ascendency events really suck for low level players, scoring is near impossible for me...even if i was to spend money.

[stone glade]

I still believe in the good... someday they'll get lucky 😅

[quick kettle]

Flashpoint will go the way of Assaults. Thanks Scopely for reinforcing my need to not spend money on this game.

[ocean oxide]

Def something wacky going on with the IMS
It has reset to 0 and I'm the only one scoring points now

[graceful briar]

Now the SMS isn’t scoring at all either.

[idle parcel]

In a good company, new products get beta tested for bugs, and during that time, people trying it would notice how long it takes to do these ridiculous events. It's clear that Scopely has done neither.

[novel mango]

Is there one? Haven’t noticed at ops 39.

[flint oyster]

So in your infinite brilliance instead of fixing the event chain people hated and a voice they hated. You're doubling down and you wonder why your game is dying

[modest marsh]

yeah there are 3 of them, 1 in the season pass (1st tab), and 2 in the flashpass (3rd tab)

[late orchid]

So im reading this right with your "additional" systems. Not a single additional uncommon mining system? Awesome

[novel mango]

Remember ready player one, the part when they said they could clutter the screen to a certain % before players start having seizures? I think Scopley is testing to find out what that actual percentage is in real life.

[novel mango]

Got nothing in the third tab.

[modest marsh]

first 2, the tasks is to kill dropships, the 2nd 2 is to damage vanguard (rare armada type thing) which i have gotten 0 dir's so can't even take part in the IMS....yaaaaaaaay

[graceful briar]

Dropships, even in the old systems, aren’t scoring. Is Scopely aware of this?

[stone glade]

Certainly. And they will certainly investigate it 🤣

[wispy pier]

more broken promises by scopely. what should we expect by now. Don't worry we are aware of issue. next event it will all be fixed........We are still waiting on that.

[novel mango]

Yup don’t have that third one at all.

[dark horizon]

This game has sounds ?

[ashen notch]

Bringing this forward again because it desperately needs to be addressed. I get its a heroic event, but even money doesn't solve the problem for maxed/ops locked ships holders.

[dark horizon]

Technically you could build another set.

[subtle nest]

First it was the IMS stopped working right, now my SMS stopped. GG

[naive folio]

@molten marlin

Have you or have you not reported this issue, SMS is messed up now???

Several people have posted same issue.
This is in addition to IMS scoring issue.

[upper oxide]

Hi

[odd dock]

get out whilst you still can! 😂 hi

[oak crescent]

I wouldn't classify this as a bug, since it seems intentional, but can anyone confirm if the Flashpoint Event Store only having a maximum of 5 pulls of the Transogen Force Foundations was intentional? the first iteration allowed for 20 pulls

[subtle nest]

This is like a bad joke, you say your going to lower the grind. So now its lower but it also wont give credit for the kills 🤣

[ashen notch]

No way to get the special BPs to build more ships (not that I'd want them anyway since you cant scrap em).

[hidden lantern]

4 hours into this new run on s29 and...🦗 🦗 🦗 🦗 🦗

[glacial verge]

Ops locked here 23 I only have the Franklin that uses G3 and it's locked behind Freq Modules. I could buy them but it's my only ship that uses G3 and I wouldn't score high enough to make the money worth it.

[acoustic olive]

This happens because majority keeps crying that flashpoint events are too hard. However, last week all of the servers completed stage 2. All that was needed was to either lower stage 3 milestones, or lower the exchange store pulls for directives. But no. Seems like people don’t realize that this is a mmorpg. This genre is about the grind. Most cry and scopley have in and changed it with only a few days of testing. While stress testing is where the bulk of bugs tends to occur. Next time don’t cry so much about the grind because that’s what this genre is all about.

[dark horizon]

So this comparse that with the general "no testing" how? 🙂

[patent dust]

To the powers that be ... the scotty ship event ... i know you have changed the paremeters for the mats ... but this is ridiculous .. how am i supposed to score by spending G6 uncommon and rare ... when i cant ... I need to be ops 61 and have a selkie for that and in a completely different event bracket ... this seriously makes no sense at all .. please change the paremeters back ...

[dark horizon]

And thats why i suggested they add the lower grades as well, even if they score lower.

[rough ravine]

Screw this... I'm going back to FarmVille.

[jaunty nacelle]

Clash of Clans for me

[stone glade]

Pausing is the wrong way! Cancel and restart it another day!

[lucid idol]

@full swan what about the fact that Hurak Honorguard spawns are still broken? What about the fact we all have already made progress towards the IMS and now have to start fresh? Just accept you royally messed up, and auto-complete the events for all. This arc is a dumpster fire, it was a poor concept to begin with, the only thing worse than the idea was the execution. I stg if you guys ruin the SNW arc I'm probably gonna quit, the show is awesome and if you sully it with substandard content I'm more than likely done with this game.

[rain jay]

just cancel it. forget restarting it

[raw berry]

You're 1/2 right @stone glade the best way is to cancel it. No restart.

[stone glade]

@rain jay @raw berry I want some stuff from the event store 🙂 So restart, but fair and not loosing 5 hours where the most players are active

[dark horizon]

Well th SMS scores fine, so technically they could count that kill number for each server and then apply to IMS, but that would require skill in querying the logs

[rain jay]

😀 thats what compensation chests are for

[jaunty nacelle]

The experiment has failed, the events are garbage and don't function properly, The grind is increased, the spending and player count is going down dramatically... it's time for Scopely to face the music and just #KillFlashpoint

[subtle nest]

SMS is broke for a few of us, multiple here have already mentioned it

[solid tangle]

Ok, figure me this. Two same SLBs. I'm 1st in the left one and 4th in the right one. What counts?

[naive folio]

Um, no... I was 32 points from completing the SMS, Now it's showing me at only 280 some points at first milestone... It is definitely messed up as well. I have over 300 reports in my inbox to prove it.
#KillFlashpoint

@molten marlin
You still haven't answered whether or not you reported the issue with SMS scoring as well... Still waiting...

@full swan
Will you report this, please?

[lost phoenix]

The Flashpoint events still have some balancing issues. None of the ops 61-64 players on my (large) alliance are hitting above level 58 dropships. The SMS can be finished but players are far from getting to pull for the armada directives. Further, low G6 players tend to use G5 epics. A single pull at G6 is more than a triple pull at G5. Hence, I have finished every SMS for the past 3 years except the Flashpoint armada events - I had no directives from my pulls so the 1 set of directives from the BP would not have reached milestone 1. Another issue is that since early G6 research does not use UC nor rare materials, counting regular G6 mats or hazard particles seems like a good idea. Since none of the G5 mats are scoring for events now early G6 players so we are basically stuck

[craggy elm]

Scopely math - u will be 14th 😂

[mystic sage]

Time they admit the failed and throw this arc out the window. Noone is happy

[dark horizon]

Nah, double down on the mechanics and gaslight the players is the way to go.

[vocal timber]

Maybe it would be easier to stop making events and just giving out compensation chests. Anything else seems to be above your competence level 🤡

[hardy torrent]

Given the most recent announcement, these suggestions from ChatGPT seem more on point than ever

[distant dagger]

They should just auto complete all events for us for waiting our time as compensation

[patent dust]

They knew about this 2 hours ago ... our lives do not revolve around them ... this is a waste of our free time ... if i had been this incompetent (and i dont just mean today ... but for the past 2 years i have been playing this game) during my working life I wouldnt have been able to hold down a job ... the fact they get paid for this ... is a joke

[kind rapids]

I support the cancel bit.

[wispy pier]

2 PTS ISNT ENOUGH THATS STILL 4500 KILLS

[lucid idol]

Haaaaaa! Imagine thinking this is acceptable as a response, nope... they do not give a flying fffffudge about the players. I am so done giving you a single penny of my money, the spending stops here, if the next arc is just as bad as this I'm out.

[stone glade]

They don't even realize that the EU servers lost 5-6 of their most active hours on the first day—would it be the same if it were the US servers?

[vernal fulcrum]

I like how the Ferengi event for killing the Hurak armadas using the old scoring metrics

[quick kettle]

Has anyone of our regular arc runners/ designers claimed this one? Live Ops shouldn't be your Z team, it should be your A team.

[wispy pier]

yes reset around noon on east coast

[subtle nest]

"So were going to lower the milestones, But make you do them twice!!!"

[distant dagger]

Maybe we should rate them 1 star on the platforms for their incompetency and lack of care for their player base

[modern spade]

@full swan the scoring for pt2 IMS has returned to the higher milestones from last run

[wraith bramble]

Same for part 3

[woven yew]

They had days to fix this and did nothing. Stage 2 of the ims is 1 point per kill and needs over 114k

[placid minnow]

Y'all should have just auto completed the 1st stage of the IMS for everyone instead of ASSuming each server will have the will to start stage 1 from scratch when the night is damn near over already.

[lucid idol]

Don't forget the fact that it is still only 1 point per kill, despite being 4x higher than stage 1... honestly, I don't think anyone has a clue what they're doing at Scopely. They're all just running around bumping into things and each other. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, it's like they're in a massive rush to do absolutely nothing... utterly incompetent, I wouldn't trust them to serve me the right order at McDonalds let alone run a whole game. I'm baffled how people this useless have such (what I assume are) well paid jobs and so much responsiblity. I'm done trying to be nice about it, this is so far beyond what any of us should deem acceptable. Clueless

[molten ridge]

Bro. Just cancel the event and send the rewards

[wraith bramble]

They didn't fix anything... these are the same milestones we had to reach for 1st iteration of this flashpoint... that was just a revert to before... nice fix pressing ctrl-z

[ashen notch]

Scoring should be updated to 5 pts per hostile to make up for hours of lost progress. 2 pts is a slap in the face.

[jaunty nacelle]

It's time Scopely realizes this... the arc needs to be buried ..#KillFlashpoint

[modern spade]

Sure. I’m going to do all that grind I already did to complete my two SMS before this “fix” happened all over again, just to get old version of IMS helped along to the next inevitable disaster… at 11pm… bet on it. 👍

[thorny wedge]

I am going to pretend the ims doesn’t exist and just do the sms and get as many pulls of the armada chests as I can.

[marble parrot]

Whats that saying...

Cant flog a dead horse ?

🥵🤔🫣

[subtle nest]

I think its now clear that Stage 4 is unobtainable by design!

[fluid lotus]

Why hasn’t the cost of these stupid 💩 chests been changed yet? What’s the point of changing the scoring on the events when they are eventually tied to the cost and RNG of the chests? Do you even know your own events?

[late orchid]

So you increase stage 1 but not stage 2.. so you clowns still think that a 2000 ish person server should kill 86000ish hostiles to even get to stage 3? How is this less screen time on the game?

[ashen notch]

Given the magnitude of the failures of this arc, I feel proper compensation would be a full compliment of USS Vengeance blueprints 🤣

[neat condor]

Daily feedback about Fueling the Fire, and how replacing March of Progress with it is slowing down the progress of G4, because it gives less ship parts and forces G4 to decide between ship parts and officers.

[odd dock]

@full swan evening friend, im wondering what comp we are expecting due to:

the reset of ims stage 1 - many players already suffered the grind to get their sms stage 1+2 done and wont want to repeat that because of scopelys issue.

be aware that this is a community request that will make or break scopelys 6 months of planned bull. make it good now or have no interactions for 6 months (may as well eos) ... scopely best decide in the next 3days 18hrs. ty

[dark horizon]

they changed the scoring all right, but they tripled the points needed for stage 3 🙂 ... top are screeenshots from the previous invasion IMS and bottom are current IMS milestones

[novel mango]

Wow anyone who workex on IMS event just got messed over hard.

[novel totem]

the usse with extraordinary high refine costs so you are able to complete IMS#3 has not been adressed. So the grind stays the same 🤮

[late orchid]

I'm just going to boycott this whole flashpoint event...and by extension these next 5 months of arcs if theyre anything like this 💩... its not worth it...I'll feed the refinery which i actually like what's in it, but im not worrying about anything flashpoint related...

[dawn fossil]

Flash point points are still trash!

[modern spade]

And am I wrong or are there still no epics above 45 (in the 46 system)?
So.. not really able to pull the epic loot chest with what you earn from those….
What’s really the most “amusing”is that the IMS was actually working, we had already gotten first milestone triggered and paid.
Then.. someone turned up to work…

[thorny wedge]

The transogen refinery to get artifacts should have been the only thing released. Would have been a big hit

[jaunty nacelle]

Just remember, if you aren't enjoying or progressing well enough in the arc, you aren't spending enough money and it's your fault.

[heady glacier]

Here’s an idea Scopley, stop using AI to do the work.

[river cobalt]

Chronicle of the ascendant event … upgrade your ships … done several upgrades and tier ups on 3. Results = zero points. I didn’t see it say “only some ships count” or am I missing something?

[queen kindle]

The scoring cards on the bottom will give you details on how to score.

[worldly cedar]

No point in saying anything. No one is listening. Everyone has been ignored. The right thing to do would be to bypass this section and give rewards to save face and show empathy. Please don’t hold your breath.

[heady glacier]

The details tell you the parts, you’ll have to see what ships they go to if you don’t know off top of head.

[placid minnow]

It's crazy how y'all at scopely literally don't seem concerned that over 10k people have quit the game between the end of May and this month because your arcs have been trash. I've seen multiple people on my server quit the game completely over this arc. You even have Rev so annoyed at it that he made an entire video ranting.

[dawn fossil]

Hey Dopley make the following changing
drop ships worth 10 points.
Rare vanguard 10 points
Eric’s honor guard 20 points
Make it so the invasions don’t unlock before stage 3 because people are already doing them even though I’m sure nobody’s in stage three yet 🤦‍♂️
Switch Mining to Stage 3 and
Triple all mining points.
And Double All Loot/Rewards
Make Scoop Great Again!
As an independent contractor I’ll take a free $99 pack.

[subtle nest]

Scopley probably needs to prepare for the backlash thats going to follow if after running this IMS twice and no server makes it to stage 4

[odd dock]

lol scoring 2 points instea dof 1 for the IMS? no, seems like you think ppl are going to bother doing it again.

go back and tell them it needs to be 5 or 10 points per kill. then it may happen.

lets be clear, because scopely simply too stupido to understand:

having players re-do the kills = the same kill milestones of the original event that everyone complained about (half as many again might as well be them all again).

listen, understand: noones doing another grind for you (scopely) you make it 5 or 10 per kill IMS and it might actually get done.

in its current state you will have maybe 20 servers go on to complete stage 1+2, because noones returning for this mess @full swan

demand a pay raise for all the aggro youre getting on behalf of the incompetent fools at scopely.

[cold sandal]

Can't be bothered to engage with this mess (aka Flashpoint) caused by utter incompetence and tone deafness by $copely at all. Not going to participate in anything related to it.

[heady glacier]

How about giving all transgeon arc rewards to everyone. Cancel all events related to it for rest of arc, and take that time to fix it

[odd dock]

noones buying that new ship next arc ... because it wont work 😂 best tell scopely next moth will have no income from stfc ...

[idle parcel]

I did the same thing. For me, only 6 star ships count. They've taken 4 and 5 star out, which is ridiculous, as it stops many from scoring.

[plush axle]

Removing previous generations of resources reduces the focus on scrapping. As an ops 60 player I want to finish my Tribune and Hegh'Ta as my g5 epics need the resources. As the g4 resources do not count the ships will have to wait, thereby not maxing my g5 epics and postponing the move into g6.

[thin void]

The Stage 2 IMS scoring is still 1 point, not 2 like the Stage 1 IMS scorign

[ruby widget]

Let's not delude ourselves. We hated WoK too, but Reliant was their most successful ship yet.

[odd dock]

thats only due to ST2 the movie ... not the loop, arc, scopely, etc.

[graceful briar]

You know what’s awesome? A grind event that rewards you with… another grind event.

[river cobalt]

It didn’t have any ships named.

[heady glacier]

It says parts. Like ceramic things, etc. it’s mostly specialty ships. check each description

[idle parcel]

Scopely has been giving us hints on what to do with the game.

[manic sinew]

Worst. Arc. Ever.

[warm kestrel]

the UI has become too muddled. I don't like having to hunt through so many menus to figure out what all the events are. Itd be different if we had the entire battle pass to complete all the events but since we're forced to do each specific thing on each specific day its just become too much. And too many of the events require extended time in a small number of systems, which is annoying if you're not at war and prohibitive if you are. Ive only got so much free time in any given day and some days I don't have any. I'm not going to give up my job, family, etc to make more time for this game. My only option is to give it less time. For the remainder of this arc I'm going to focus on dailies and older content. I'll explore this month's content in the fall and spend my $ elsewhere in the meantime

[deep warren]

<@&509691611903426561> These "Chronicle of the Ascendant" events are practically impossible for me without having to spend money. I'm an ops 67 player and I could not or cannot complete 2 out of the 3 events thus far (day 1 and today). I do not have any ships that are ready to be upgraded to enable me to finish the event today nor did I have any specialty buildings available to upgrade in order to finish on Tuesday. This is an absolutely terrible event with a terrible design.

[raw berry]

6 months of this arc may be the detox we need from this game if you ever thought about quitting.

[quick kettle]

I can only imagine the amount of rage quitting this arc has inspired

[gloomy rain]

Ops 48, decent research though not all done for my ops yet. Buffing with what I have (Cerritos, titan, exocomps). Three attempts several different crews. 300 directives wasted.

Who the hell is in charge of balance for these things? Add to this that the directives pull from chests is random...

[idle parcel]

Same here. I'm ops 62, and all I could upgrade was one part of a Selkie, as all other ships g5 and below don't count. How ridiculous.

[raw berry]

I mean, we wanted to have something to make us have less screen time, this may actually be it

[dark horizon]

did you try dajash/ tolli or bchir and demarco with hugh and crit damage plus isolytic defense below deck ? i might have misspelled those names

[regal elk]

do we think we can miss one day of the ascendcy events and still complete it?

[chrome ocean]

"IF" they keep releasing 1 a day yes

[boreal coyote]

Please put on eye on the exchange on the left, so we can sit if we can afford tomorrow’s pull.

[novel mango]

The sad thing we keep saying it almost every arc. It’s said because each time it’s true.

[gloomy rain]

Yes, that did a little more damage, approx. half the entity's HP. Thanks, though

[dark horizon]

At least they are predictable and don’t drift from the trend.

[novel mango]

What that the event Scopley restarted at step 1?

[regal elk]

the IMS part 1

[versed hedge]

Game is impossible to play this evening, restarted countless times and just constantly lags out or sits on a loading screen

[keen egret]

Worst arc ever... so far. 😋

[subtle nest]

Each time we say "worst ever", someone at scopley says "Hold my beer"

[errant wind]

This Arc has done wonders to reduce my playing time and a way to save my money 💰, Thankyou Scopley

[subtle nest]

So far this arc Rewards your grind with more grind. And if you win the SLB you have to pay to spend the reward 😛

[lone sluice]

The UI needs a rehaul so badly. The Dailies and the Boldy Go Events have a usable UI that works and is better at scaling. The event cards need to be reduced or eliminated. There is literally 33 event cards you can score in today. Some are daily, some are monthly, some are a week long. 39 if you want to count the rolling sms and ims for the flashpoint.

[sick token]

Comp chest, too little too late. No point trying to catch up at this point.

[raw berry]

@full swan the mats spend slbs are a joke, the new officers and artifacts are like giving an answer to a question no one asked or even asked for. Adding in additional loops and events/event currencies on top of what we already had introduced for this arc is a joke. Fleet presets are meh, it's not THAT difficult to switch ships. The only good things I can say are the QOL updates of the skulls on the chasers and the diamonds on the loot goblins being larger.

I normally like to complete everything I can but I can also recognize what is not worth my time. The majority of this entire arc is not worth the time.

[surreal crypt]

I might have missed it with everything going on, but has it been said why the Epics score half the points in the Ferengi Hurok event vs the weekly Hurok event?

[livid wharf]

I got my Revenant to Tier 10 and scrapped it. Rebuilt it and tiered it up to T10 again. You would think that tiering up a ship 10 times would be enough to at least come close to finishing the Starship Ascendancy event but nope. Barely over 10% of the event finished... Ridiculous!

[rocky sleet]

Anyone else feel like them giving 300 rare directives in the comp chest was a tacit acknowledgement that they screwed up by having a chance for 0 directives in the exchange pull?

[thick knot]

Do I see that correctly? To spend the tokens won from placing well in the "crucible" SLB, you have to have bought the Ferengi pass?

[rain jay]

Which store is that in, theres like 20 stores now cant find anything

[viscid phoenix]

It’s Scopely’s latest innovation -play2pay2play

[alpine fable]

Its a great event design if your goal is to have players spend as much real money as possible. Gotta see it from their point of view

[thick knot]

It's hidden here

[novel mango]

Maybe but with me that just makes me not want to spend. I havent spent in years, I am stubborn the more you try to force me to do something the more I won’t do it. If they weren’t so obsessed with the pay to win events (heroic) I would likely spend more. I get they need to make money but they could go about things in a different way and choose not to.

[vital lark]

While your at it scopley why dont you nerf the 60+ hurak hostiles. Im 64 and I can't even hit the 60's, you guys are really making it easy for people to quit. Becoming more pay to win and the F2P have no chance.

[alpine fable]

Yes. Big brain move on scopelys part. Start incorporating cash requirements on event prizes.

[thick knot]

Wow, then that's a new low. Guess you have to make that BP attractive in some way.

[alpine fable]

The only way they'll learn is if we stop rewarding this kind of behavior with money. Sadly, there are always those who are willing to pick up a few extra shifts at mcdonalds just to buy the 99.99 scopely mega pack.

[novel mango]

Or the McMega pack.

[alpine fable]

Imagine spending tons of time, dedicating much of it to collecting and working hard on winning an SLB, only to be told that your reward is the opportunity to spend real life money to be able to spend that reward. My pea sized brain cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics needed to justify such a big brained move.

[alpine fable]

I spent some money a long long time ago when i first started this game. Man was I naive and uninformed.

[fickle peak]

I completed Stages 1 and 2 and didn't get enough mats for a SINGLE pull. Why are you making this so stupidly difficult. I'm not killing hostiles all day and night.

[woven yew]

It feels super disheartening to win the SLB's that give Ferengi Premium opportunity chips only to find out I can't actually use my reward without spending more money?!

[keen egret]

Yes, that's the idea. It makes people spend. Or at least Scopely thinks so. Maybe it works on enough folks.

[woven yew]

Its genuinely got to be one of the worst designed "rewards" they've ever done. "Here you go drop a bunch of stuff to win this SLB for cool rewards. Oh wait we mean rewards you have to spend even more money on just for the chance to get some."

[woven yew]

I just wish I could understand the logic behind this. The reward for winning the new SLB event is tokens that I can only use if I spend even more money. This has to be one of the greediest things I've seen them do recently. They'll not get more from me lol.

[alpine fable]

Scopely wanted to give players a sense of pride and accomplishment by giving us an additional hurdle to overcome beyond simply "Spending money". This will be the way forward for scopely from now on. Spend money, AND have to win in SLBs to get rewards.

[boreal coyote]

Lots to complain about with new events for sure. But why do old events still have jacked brackets. How can an ops locked t10 cube ( Level 54 ) compete with a ,axed cube ( Level 70 ). I haven’t even tried at this event since I hit 50.

[digital forge]

Our server has to kill 57,000 drop ships for stage 2. That’s just funny numbers when you think of the attrition the last two months has caused. Even if we do make it past stage 2, we will be in the same boat as many - not enough time to possibly make a dent in the other two.

Stage 1 and 2, IMO, should be set at goals that a server can accomplish in one day, leaving enough time for the other two.

Refinery pulls are already time gated to once a day, so nobody is finishing stage 4 without reaching it with time for two refines I imagine. Make the event fun and people will engage…..

[sand lintel]

What is an OPS 25 player going to do with G2 Mats from the treasury???????

Those ships were MAXXED 4 OPS levels ago... 😦 not exactly incentive to open the treasury

and P.S. It's not like you put G2 and G3 in the treasury box... it's just G2.

[alpine fable]

Save your keys. You get much more better stuff later on. Im ops 32 and i get like 6 million Latinum, 20 gwen shards, etc. Much better to wait till youre like ops 30-34 or something and pulling then, even if its just for the 5 million or so latinum you get

[molten marlin]

A free to play treasury will never see that much latinum

[sand lintel]

the longer I can save them the better the rewards... OPS 46 I think I pulled 17M Latinum, and some decent G3/G4 mats

And I think Ive only spent under $100 on that OPS 46 account... but that was years ago

My only concern (and why I posted) is because this is basically the reason we hate your management of this game... NO attention to detail, rewards dont match player levels, and the higher you get the harder it is to even come close to fighting your OPS level in hostiles (as you point out so much that we as players need to be doing).

It's a large battle for us to get heard, and not have Scopely discount everything we say as wrong / whining.

Getting down off my soapbox. 🙂 sleep well, everyone (and for those in different time zones... good morning, good afternoon, or good evening)

[modern spade]

@molten marlin you who know what’s going on ;)… are there still only L45 epics to be done?
Kinda hard to make good pulls with just those…

[molten marlin]

what?

[modern spade]

Im only seeing any epic vanguards in the 46 system still, L45’s.. none of higher level.. is that correct for now, will be fixed later?
Or do the rare ones in higher systems need clearing to get to the epics?

[molten marlin]

They're in the higher systems

[modern spade]

I must be misunderstanding how it works then, or just looking wrong place?

our L60 Karoun has only rare in it.. which someone is currently chowing through, and they keep respawning as rare.. no epics

Are epics in those new token systems?? Ohhh wait side systems off the x0’s… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[vague patio]

its sad we need to say it every arc cuz it just means that the previous ones were not as bad as the current one 😂

[marble parrot]

Can we stop with the comp chest gifts?

You got a whole team of developers and software guys to check it properly.

🙄🙄🙄

[dusky sleet]

lower grade materials not counting in spend events is such a scopely move. no announcement, nothing! lower level 50s and 60s have no chance of taking part in those and competing in those slbs. this change need to be reverted. All grade material spent should score some appropriate amount.

[alpine fable]

Well of course. Scopely wants to push you to use higher grade mats because theres a chance you might get frustrated or annoyed enough to buy the packs and upgrade using bought mats. No one at ops 50 is going to be worried about collecting G3 mats, but then scopely wont make any money because people would just use G3 mats to score points.

[limpid condor]

Flashpoint sucks

[shell vortex]

I have a feeling this is the arc that is all going wrong on. Its been coming for months...i mean this whole 6 months hasnt been great...but the grind is too much, even for the grinders. But hey after seeing the launch video, im not surprised. I dont think anyone had a clue about the players

[thorn belfry]

over 40,000 dropships over 3k active players thats assuming every active player participates is more than 10 per player during the event. this isnt possible

Assuming half (that is very generous) participate fully thats nearly 30 per player over the 4 days

Is scoply incapable of basic mathematics?

[languid ice]

Dropships are the hostiles.

[thorn belfry]

Oh i thought we just did the hostile one

[fading veldt]

I can't see the fleet commander unlock and upgrade events for this Arc?

[novel patio]

Ops 62 exchange costs are insane. 150x lvl 60 to get a single claim? 🤷‍♂️

I've finished the 2 SMS, yet I don't have enough for single pull (even with some surplus from previous run).

Guys, seriously, do some math next time please 🙏

[twilit adder]

Those are hostiles which should be easy. The problem is the mining sms, that one is impossible if you’re a 60.

[fluid igloo]

There are two hostile IMS and SMS, but 40k hostiles are still a lot.
Let’s say a server has 3k active players and an average ops level of 30. That means that maybe 800-1000 players can actually kill them, maybe even less. That would mean 40-50 hostiles each, which is totally fine. However, most players don’t really engage with the content, aren’t active enough or don’t know it exists at all. In the end it’ll likely be 50-100 players that have to shoot 400-800 hostiles, preferably in less than two days.

[thorn belfry]

yikes thats a lot and ofc all those players are gonna do the armadas in the meantime not thinking they need to save them

[heady glacier]

How about 3 stages? Eliminate stage 2. Add a 4th heroic if you must.

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-to-find-that-middle-ground-adam-engvid-you-have-to-reach-a-compromise-learn-english-with-adam-gif-9860640296971226811

[toxic wraith]

Now double or triple your milestones and you get actual content

[subtle nest]

So are we going to have to restart this again or run it a 3rd time?

[robust bronze]

Bring back material spending events that grant new officers’ shards!

[fluid igloo]

Yeah and that’s just for IMs stage two, there’s also stage one

[amber vale]

Just dont do the events, show Scamley that they are turning this game to crap and that no one is interesting in their crap ideas anymore

[coral bane]

They turned the game to crap long ago. It just gets a lot smellier and smellier with each ‘maintenance’

[heady glacier]

I wish, but this seems to be their way of forcing us to engage with new content for new officers. Honestly don’t see them changing that for this 6 month thing.

[coral bane]

As soon as scopely finds out about something that actually pleases the community, they scrap it, or change it so players dont have fun anymore.
Apparently scopely does not want us to enjoy the game. And they are doing an excellent job in that

[plush axle]

Will lvl 60 (rare) Hurak Vanguard be rebalanced? 55 rares are easy. 60s impossible.

[sharp hollow]

Maybe someone needs to send the $copley Developers an ABACUS.... Changing the scoring from 1 pt per Rare Vanguard 2 pts STILL means a server needs to do roughly 5000 to complete the Stage 3 ... If memory serves (and it was just a week ago) , NOT A SINGLE SERVER got much past Tier 1 which was roughly 1000 ....
WAKE UP $COPLEY! GRAB A CALCULATOR!

[heady glacier]

Outside of packs, getting directives isn’t easy. The requirements for those pulls are beyond many players. So in essence half of the active players on any server will get free directives imo. Scopley needs to understand the chain of events that lead to stage 3 success. Not just the number of players on a server.

[sharp hollow]

Might We also point out the amount of hostiles to get full pulls of the Directive Refine.... and we STILL have a daily limit of 2500 kills a day.
Now I know @near saddle & @full swan don't SET these numbers , but maybe they can point them out to the ones that DO.

[barren arrow]

So why isn't this working? 🤔🤔
<@&509690795536941056>

[molten marlin]

it's for the IMS, not sms

[barren arrow]

Omg you're kidding me? Never going to happen then, the amount of hostiles, IEs and mining to do this is beyond almost any server.... ridiculous
Slow mode on.... 2 mins to send.... obviously a lot of unhappy players out there if they have to make us wait....

[sharp hollow]

$copley better make sure this disappears from our Missions list after the IMS is over ... because when not a SINGLE SERVER unlocks stage 4 again it will serve as a Rage-trigger reminder of these #TRASHPOINT events

[heady glacier]

Once people finish their sms, participants seem to drop dramatically. We are almost at the 1st milestone of stage 2 IMS. We were much better the first run. Enthusiasm has dropped dramatically I’m afraid. Questioning wether we can actually get to stage 3 at this point 🤔
last run we almost got milestone 1 of stage 3.

[coral bane]

Forget about these ‘events’. They are severly bugged with unreachable milestones.
Another example of scopely totally loosing touch with reality

[sharp hollow]

Which is what i said above ... your Server like mine , got a little over 1000 points .... now double that with the "new adjusted scoring" .... you MIGHT reach Tier 2 if you REALLY try .

[robust bronze]

Great… 😓 I am barely engaging with the new content because it’s way way way too much for someone with a full time job. And I don’t even have a life outside of it! 😅

[subtle nest]

yesterday the IMS broke, and my SMS stopped Before they froze event and i aint been out there since. Today i see they announced point increase that never seemed to happen

[fading veldt]

Mine is showing the same

[subtle nest]

GG maybe 3rd run work? And this arc is 6 months??

[coral bane]

6 months of misery. Thx Scopely!

[fading veldt]

I ain't doing this I haven't got 1,200 directives

[fading veldt]

Also the common pull is missing these are a 6mth concept

[sonic robin]

don't worry, they'll sell you a solution next arc/ unlock it after 100 days + another 150 days for it to be useful

[trail solar]

new scoring should also be for sms

[dawn fossil]

Hey Dopley make the following changing
drop ships worth 10 points.
Rare vanguard 10 points
Eric’s honor guard 20 points
Make it so the invasions don’t unlock before stage 3 because people are already doing them even though I’m sure nobody’s in stage three yet 🤦‍♂️
Switch Mining to Stage 3 and
Triple all mining points.
And Double All Loot/Rewards
Make Scoop Great Again!
As an independent contractor I’ll take a free $99 pack.

[gentle peak]

The "fixes" for the ims aren't enough. Hours of grinding after I already finished my sms and we still haven't passed the first milestone for stage 2. The power gap between the level 58 hostiles and level 60hostiles is too much, forcing many low level g6 players to grind in the 58 system which is way to crowded already. Literally not enough hostiles or time to progress through stage 2 of this ims. The game is supposed to be fun, this isn't fun.

[woven yew]

Scopely forgets this is a mobile game. I can go do an entire raid in WoW and be done quicker than some of the events they have going on right now. We've been asking for less time to complete things not even more time in game 😦

[idle parcel]

My emojis are for what you said, shocked that this horrid nonsense will be 6 months. Most aren't even doing them now. What a nightmare this game has become.

[viral steeple]

As we continue to complain about the "full-time job" we have taken on in this game and as Scopely pays lip-service to improving QOL issues I see they have now added daily events to to season pass tab!!!!!!!!! Not sure where it stops, but as much as I like this game Im am getting closer and closer to quitting!

[obtuse shuttle]

<@&509690795536941056> the hurak vanguard and honor guard still need to be brought to a power that free to play players have a chance to kill them.

[delicate pebble]

Agreed, I have max tiered FKR ships for my level, good officers and research, and it takes me 3 hulls to destroy one rare Hurak Vanguard. I'm not going to be participating until this gets rightsized.

[unique dome]

These aren't designed to be level-equivalent.

[unique dome]

To add on to my last comment......I'm L50 using a crew that helps with these armadas. And I'm having to hit L45 armadas for the event. But I kill them each time.

'Good officers'? Are you using appropriate ones. Sometimes the right officers are better than the stronger officers.

The problems with the armada event are mainly the bugs that happened last time and the fact that DIRECTIVES ARE NOT GUARANTEED.

[obtuse shuttle]

I understand. But its kinda bull that you need to be around ops 50 or higher as a free to play to even hope to hurt or kill one.
Those that are in the 40s are just wasting directives or saving and losing out on rewards.

[delicate pebble]

I'm level 45, trying to take down the 45 Vanguyards, so I can't punch down on them. I can't remember what officers I was using a week ago, but they were recommended by Rev, so I'm sure they were optimal for what I'm trying to take down. I was also using the Cerritos and Titan for buffs.

[unique dome]

Yeah. I don't disagree that they maybe should've put an even lower tier of armadas down. Just wanted to be sure that you weren't trying to hit these like you could regular armadas. Sadly, Scopely isn't going to change this. As the last Q&A showed, they'll just tell you to basically 'get good so spend money'.

[fading veldt]

I'm the same I've been playing multiple years now, and that's daily not taken a break and coming back, I have an aunt that's terminal and I look after her every Thursday/Friday depending on the week, I also have a blind uncle that I care for on a Wednesday and any other time he might need assistance, I have a mother who is going through Female related cancer and in the middle of treatment, I also have a child on the spectrum a husband, a family, a home etc etc it's getting way too much, I'm an epileptic which also doesn't help but I am feeling like I'm coming to what I can cope with, I don't see quality of life

[obtuse shuttle]

Used a Dajash crew. Got only up to 3 rounds of combat.

[fading veldt]

The “Gold Rush” event mentioned in the mission title was the result of a localisation issue. It’s actually referring to Stage 4 of the Flashpoint event series. We’ve since updated the mission text to better reflect the event timing, including more accurate dates to help with clarity.
Apologies for the confusion—this has been addressed for Week 2.

So I take it we won't be able to complete that mission xx

[wise rapids]

<@&509690795536941056> it seems that scopleys "solution" to breaking the ims on this run is at best disingenuous to your claim of not wanting us to be killing 100's of hostiles for the event. Rather than lowering the target for ims 1 and 2 from a total of 100k and increasing the scoring to make up for 5 hours of lost progress you changed stage ones goal and moved the extra to stage 2. Even after the scoring adjustments that is about 50k hostiles on my server after many players spent those first 5 hours completing their sms.

Realistically this means that once again players will run the entities long before the server is to ims 3. Which means your expecting enough people to save or buy enough directives after the server kills 50k more hostiles after they completed their own sms 1 and 2 to kill a little over 4k rares. The #1 ranked server in Flashpoint shows just over 2600 players have participated (or server population, not sure which stat it actually is), on mine it's about 1800. For your adjusted goals to be reasonable every player on average has to successfully save and run every directive you gave as comp rather than running them now for their own chest pulls. Realistically maybe half will.

[neon herald]

<@&509690795536941056> For me, I’m just not doing the Flashpoint stuff. Too much of a time consuming grind, there is nothing enjoyable about them. Any more arcs in this type of direction and I’ll just be one more 70 that’s done with this “game/work”. I play to enjoy it, not to work.

[raven garden]

Make your wording better for how events score. Just wasted 30k resources on an ops upgrade because your scoring simply said spend uncommon or rare....

[amber pasture]

<@&509690795536941056> can you check why the scores needed have reset to what they were last week. E.g. phase 3 was 6000 at start of this week due to changes touted. It's now 10k after the reset last night when they took it down. I understand the scoring is higher but I thought that was to make up for having the scores wiped hours after it started

[lucid idol]

What is unclear about this? 😂

[raven garden]

It simply says spend unc or rare. Bucket scoring text has always been over the place. Same reason you were able to score outside of designated systems during thr khan pvp event as long as you had him slotted.

[brittle fulcrum]

all the events are just nonsense if you ask me. either you can hardly manage them, or you have to sit in the game all day.whoever came up with this doesn't have a lick of sense

[ornate otter]

Just because it's funny... ours has to kill over 80,000 lol

[lucid idol]

All I'm gonna say is, MAGA being your name suits you if you're struggling to follow that

[digital forge]

Whole thing is a mathematical disaster, lol. What scopely is calling an active player when calculating these milestones is very suspect.

[woven tulip]

Considering your server has a min of 1000 players that’s only 80 kills each

[brittle fulcrum]

any questions ??🤣

[spiral veldt]

The Starship Ascendancy SLB scoring seems off for SS Rev Epic parts: assuming someone bought a $99 pack for Rev parts it would only give them 2M points in the SLB while other ships give 8-10x more in points for similar parts for their packs.

[late orchid]

Actually they have stated several times youre supposed to be hitting at your ops lvl...

[worldly grove]

Can't start any of the new armadas, nor attack the hostiles in Glave Gamma

[merry violet]

'Congratulations, you won an SLB. Pay to use what you won' is a problem. Besides it being unethical/questionable behavior, it also teaches the players to ignore the SLBs. And no, I have not, nor attempted to, win one of your paywall-the-prize SLBs.

[manic crest]

<@&509690795536941056> , scoply wonders why players hate on these new ships and amount of grind needed to do pulls for directives ?

Maybe its because pulls like this when you spend all time grinding out to do 3 pulls. Thus wasn't my worst either. Got a 3 chest pull with no starts and still to this day haven't pulled a epic start with every pull being a 3 chest. At least make the smallest pull a guarentee and not waste my and other players time.

[static patio]

I'm a 59 with decent crews and a 350m Sanctus. I can't kill a lvl 52 in the new red system. After 5 years, I'm fairly sure ai know what I'm doing.
Between research, artifacts, ship adds, and over 300 crew choices, you've made it impossible for a standard 1-2 hour per day player to figure these new loops out. Every loop seems to have a special ship, and special crews. I'm not spending my brain power, time, effort, or money to figure this out, because I think it would be a waste in my resources and time to do so.
The loop fatigue and grind fatigue and search/click fatigue is real.
Do better.

[obtuse shuttle]

You are assuming each server has at least 1000 active players of the appropriate ops level to participate in this hurak event.

[vast goblet]

If your ops59 with only a 350mill Sanctus you have rushed ops waaay too fast. I'm 56 with a 1.2 bill Sanctus and can kill the 58s or go all day on the 56s. I still haven't bothered because of the insane number of kills to get a terrible set of chests

[static patio]

Well, i'll wait then. And ignore the events. I'm rushing to 60; plan to camp there for 6-12 months. 🥱

[ornate otter]

I think calling this arc (main and ferengi included) a 💩show would actually be an insult to 💩shows.

Paying to actually use your rewards.... proper unattainable goals, assumptions that every player is active (and setting goals to these numbers).

I'm not sure at what point you go from being a developer, to a con artist

[subtle nest]

The last 3 arcs are tuned only for the big spenders, if you dont have optimal ship/crew/ft-ct your not going to enjoy the game. If you dont pay your not going to do anything at your ops lvl till 3months later when you finally get crew or ship for the arcs content.

[pliant grail]

@near saddle I won a chronicle of the Ascendant SLB. Why must I purchase the Elite Ferengi Exchange pass to be able to use the premium opportunity chips?

[ornate otter]

#💬-events-feedback .... where your statements and opinions go to die

[naive viper]

I'm ops60. How exaactly am i supposed to spend FKR Solo Armada tokens? 🤨 I can't even reach those armadas.

[queen kindle]

Feel free to ignore the scoring mechanics you can't do.

[hollow wigeon]

@queen kindle Neither Borg not Dominion Armadas are counting for the Chain of Command Event. Why? It is not specified that only FKR-Directives count.

[queen kindle]

The one posted above? Unless it's specified that BSA/DSA directives work, an "armada directive" usually just means regular FKR directives.

[safe flicker]

At least you got directives. I did a triple chest pull and got none….. :(. What are the odds of this occuring? 27/8000 or 0.003375%

[wild pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[manic crest]

I did say I did get a 3 chest pulls with no starts as well😂.. the odds have to be higher then they claim. Remember scoply 30% against player is almost 90% and scoplys 90% for player is 5%.

[viral kayak]

Scopely certainly isn't on my Christmas card list!

[lone turret]

Collected this dozens of times already, how much longer does this need to pop up for an event that’s finished now?

[neat condor]

just a huge thanks to everyone that put up with me whining about Fueling the Fire and March of Progress since Monday, I am super glad to have it back

[wild pelican]

All I want for Christmas is a better Trek experience lmao.

[naive viper]

Oh I will, dont worry. But event parameters should be appropriate for ops level. Too much to expect I suppose.

[queen kindle]

It's better for them to make one event for everyone so you'll know if you level up enough, you can open up a new method of scoring.

[wild pelican]

I guess after the disaster WoK arc they never did heed my request for The Search For Decent Content. Look what we got instead. I failed you all.

[kind rapids]

If it doesn't specify a particular kind of armada then all directives should count. Otherwise you're not only
abusing your players and the meaning of words, you're also breaking the law in most of Europe, where in game rewards have to match what you say not what you claim to mean.

[queen kindle]

It's not a reward, it's a cost.

[main marlin]

alot of people on my server at least are using their directives before IMS - stage 3 comes out. Going to make it hard to complete if its not scoring now

[kind rapids]

If you spend a directive, you get an in game reward towards scoring in the event, or at least you should do.

[queen kindle]

It's not "a directive," the ones that work are specifically listed.

[subtle nest]

so is this not going to be fixed after the official annoucement that it was increased

[kind rapids]

The ones that work aren't specifically listed, it says "spend 1 R Armada Directive" It doesn't say "spend 1 R FKR Armada Directive" So if I use a rare eclipse Armada token it should score. I should get the reward in game based on what it says, not on what you claim it means. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue here, the screenshot is right there where you can see the type of directive is not, as you claim "specifically listed."

So can we expect compensation if we use other directives that don't work, or the reward we should get based on what it actually says, not on what you want it to say.

[coral herald]

according to statistics, you came up with cool events. no one does them, just either live in the game or don't play. nonsense. getting worse and worse. why should I live in it?

[static patio]

Btw, I misspoke. My sanctus is 700m. Still can't kill 52s, lol.

[subtle nest]

Lawl server 86 only has to get 81k and server 84 has to get 114k

[rough ravine]

Server 38... Dropships are only scoring 1 point each. The announcement said they were changing to two. Unless the notification is wrong. Hard to tell on an IMS if the event is scoring differently than the announcement.

[plucky glacier]

So as an ops 42, I'm expected to kill lvl 45 Hurak Vanguards to complete my SMS? Whichj let's assume I could... they don't currently exist. What is the point of giving people these SMS' at lower ops if we can't even do them.

[plush hedge]

Is that March of Progress? Thank you! This is the one event I actually need!

[subtle nest]

So why does a server with nearly same avg ops lvl with more players get lower milestones then a server with less players???

[unique dome]

They exist: Wyte (Rare), Beta Nerra (epic)

[odd dock]

the 45 rares are apparently in the lvl40 system

[woven tulip]

Yes I am, if you have less your server would be likely merged into another. Plus considering the SMS depending on your ops that’s 50-200 kills each at 200 kills each that’s needed only 400 players (if your name suggests your from server 98 then your server has 2150 players) plus no server has less then an average of 1200 players

[full swan]

Pinged ya.

[river schooner]

Lol after this arc mergers are inevitable to increase players for server.

[nova crane]

This FP event isn’t about how many need to kill x ships. Players just aren’t engaging. On my server anyway… very few people want to spend hours killing reds at a very high repair rate for most. It is poor design, it will not be fixed by doubling kill points and nominally reducing targets. Even those engaging, seem to be doing so with increasing degrees of resentment.

[unique dome]

Every server completed Stage 1. The lowest ranked in Stage 2 are tending towards to lower power servers right now

[subtle nest]

nearly same avg ops but 86 has more players and less kills per milestone

[safe flicker]

<@&509690795536941056> some level of guaranteed armada directives needs to be implemented. How are players expected to participate let alone complete these new armada events when pulls like this happen from a three chest pull. No directives.

[kind rapids]

The initial experience, as with the last arc was so bad for so many players that it would take a lot to make them engage again now.

[unique dome]

So what? They've still taken out far more. That's the key to look at. Don't look at the percentage done.

I haven't figured out why some get a lower threshold. I will say this. Fenris doesn't have an alliance over L50, Hyralan has 5.

The comment I replied to was about losing engagement no matter how many points they give. I'm pointing out that this isn't bearing out as every server got done.

[subtle nest]

more players means more kills, when points are same for any level then ops level is not a issue

[obtuse shuttle]

Can they include that it requires group armada since solo armada don't count

[agile zinc]

<@&509690795536941056> it seems the flash point invading enterties aren't spawning properly in 140s 64 system. Only 5 epics showing and no rares spawning

[loud atlas]

Anyone under ops 40 lose the Flashpoint tab? (I’m level 35 and I’ve restarted multiple times)

[unique dome]

My server has 1582 players and needs almost 97k points in stage 2. Hyralan has 2078 players and need 115k. There is something that clearly delineates how many points each server needs, and it CLEARLY IS NOT PLAYER NUMBERS OR POWER.

[odd dock]

its number ofwhales

[full swan]

Was jkust looking into this.

[subtle nest]

Avg ops difference, but avg of 86 and 84 are closer then 53 to 84

[ashen notch]

My server had the 4th highest completion in the US (i think top 5 in the world) last invasion, and we were all of 15% done with stage 3. This time, we've only recently managed 1 milestone of stage 2 because nobody cares anymore. It's pretty much agreed there's no point in attempting impossible events, which take too much time to complete, for atrociously small rewards. Add in that they messed up the event and made everyone lose their progress, and it only compounds the apathy. This event is a failure of epic proportions, and is highlighting how little they actually concern themselves with player feedback despite survey after survey making them seemingly appear to be listening.

[low remnant]

Yea the IMSs are absoltely insane. I don't know what precentage of my server needs to complete both stages of their SMS... but oof.... Its gotta be 5x our daily active players...

[wise carbon]

Not one server has made it to stage 3 yet? And other than the top 3-4, most are at 50% of stage 2 or less. Nice

I think most on my server have just decided to go ahead and do the armadas for their sms…

[lucid idol]

much the same on my server with regards to IMS completion, much lower engagement this time. Nobody can be bothered

[subtle nest]

and the top 3 are high population servers with low milestones

[dark horizon]

Our server didn't even hit MS1 from stage 2, and wait till you see they tripled the points for stage 3 from what it was last time

[lucid idol]

This arc has just been a 💩 show from day 1. No redeeming qualities, the only good thing to come out of this arc is SNW T'Pring, and that's literally the only good thing. Everything else is utter trash

[subtle nest]

Well most my server did the SMS and burnt out. So now our stage 2 hardly moving. 🤣

[river schooner]

No one cares now bravo scopley you should of rolled into Kang the hms bounty and part 2 of the genesis trilogy as this is trash.

[stone glade]

Hurak IMS ... why should players participate when the first 5 very active hours (6pm to 11pm in Central Europe) are simply deleted?
An event like this is bound to die a slow death – I hope that no EU server shows even the slightest bit of commitment beyond its own SMS.
Unfortunately, what is happening here clearly shows the importance attached to EU servers.

[low remnant]

This 100%... or at least the people who are grinding enough to max pull the Targ Tag chests... the premium mirror dust is a nice addition.

[viscid shore]

That would be great, but I am among the many people who cannot hit hostiles high enough to do ANY pulls. That's even with me being top 10% worldwide at my lvl with almost maxed ships. This includes no pulls for the armada directives, so if my server somehow makes it to IMS 3, I won't be able to contribute.

[low remnant]

Also assuming you can punch high enough armadas to make spending the directives worth it (I've seen 1 battlelog from a person with a Valdore beating the 45 armadas, and for the most part see G5 players in the G4 armada systems in my server. I personally find a hurak dropship easier than the same level augment exile... but I would agree with your implication that these hostiles are FAR too hard for the vast majority of placers.

[glacial verge]

Today's Chronicle of the Ascendent events makes the 3rd one I cannot participate due to my level/unlocks...this event is a total letdown for lower ops levels.

[low remnant]

This event could be improved with more scoring options... dominion solo directives, monaveen ship yard directives, revenant directives, krenim solo, revenant borg type 3s and polygons, all the formadas... I really like the multipicity of ways to score in these spend events... but so many options have gotten ignored.

[elfin nest]

Why are the Hurak Dropships power levels imbalanced? 40 and 42 are 54 mil and 44 is 202 mil??? With almost a 100mil Pilum I can only grind 5 to 6 of the 44s.

[junior pond]

This is the new normal for events. Players that can hit up are punished by lowering the bar they can hit. The Exiles event had the exact same format with an insane jump from a 40 hostile to a 42. Everything they are putting out is directly tied to their message of 'if you are not rushing to 50 you are wrong as a player"

[rough oar]

Your SMS stage 3 is ridiculous and upsetting long-time players. It took all my dirs for my buffed NSEA to take out one 45 vanguard. How do you expect us to play—let alone enjoy—this kinda gameplay? So incredibly frustrating after spending hours grinding through stages 1 and 2

[lucid idol]

why show the cube on the cover art if there aren't any cube bps? 💩

[frigid lava]

IMS stage 2 is pretty much impossible. That is all.

[unique dome]

You mean except for the one server that has completed it and the several others who are more than halfway there.

People have to try and participate. And it's early on a Friday still. Almost all (if not all) servers completed Stage 2 the last time.

[frigid lava]

60000 hostile kills in an event that is designed to be done in one day is excessive. With a four day event with 4 stages it is obviously set up to be 1 stage per day.

And they originally adjusted the scoring for the second time because most servers didn't complete it hence the compensation chest. Then they screwed it up when they reset because of the scoring issues.

[sinful heart]

@full swan This right here pally. This is what is happening on 8, and I am sure every other server.

No amount of “pings”, “looking into it” is going to fix this now.

You guys took a wildly wrong turn and blame your players for not complying.

I hate to tell you. We are not drones.

If you seriously want to make it right, I would suggest you guys actually listen to your players and figure it out.

Otherwise, keep doing what you are doing, and let’s see how the numbers Rev rolls out in September look like. 🤙

[heady glacier]

Server 38 has surrendered. We might get 1st milestone of stage 2. 1sr run we actually got to stage 3 milestone 1. Huge drop off in engagement. Very noticeable.

[shadow trellis]

And run 3 will probably only get worse on engagement

[subtle nest]

Well if scopely is doing the same as WoK, then the anger of the hostile difficulty and the lack of directives means next month they will be selling us a ship with dmg bonus and a refinery with daily pull for directives 😛

[cinder flame]

Having to buy something inorder to use something I "won" is scamy and encourages me NOT to buy anything

[subtle nest]

These last few arcs remind me of the shops that drop a bucket of nails on the road and the next day put out the "Tire Sale" sign

[steel badger]

Will you add borg cube? It shows on the card but is missing from being able to claim the bps for the cube...

[glass pewter]

So the new territory season starts next Tuesday, when does territory actually reset? <@&509690795536941056>

[full swan]

I think reset is on the 22nd.

[glass pewter]

Thanks

[unique dome]

Lol....you guys are literally 31% done. That first milestone is just high. Before you double points again you hit 2 more milestones

[sterile rivet]

I would just like to say that the last two arcs have been utter garbage, hostiles that can just kill you unless you get a special ship, the claims for the faction rewards are stupidly high and you can only get stuff from ships that spawn every hour and have a 30% chance to kill you without the special ship and even then they give you next to nothing in resources, now you have a new resource in the current arc but you ship is blown up every 40 minutes trying to mine unless you go token space which are full for days on end as it takes so long to mine the stuff, the hostiles spawn and attack you rather than being in the zone for you to farm so the 40 minutes eats your ship again, then you got this Chronicle of the ascendant which has an IMS of like 1.6mil to complete but 3* resourse players get 20 points per resourse? What the hell is with these arcs and events, theres no fun here with these things, just impossible goals and a ton of ship repairs, awful job on these ones, I had been enjoying the game up until this point, now its just killing peoples motivation.

[fickle peak]

Oh it doesn't get any better at 50, or 60, or 70, the same issues with these ridiculous power jumps exist throughout.

[heady glacier]

Still won’t make it

[unique dome]

Yup...38k for the first milestone. Double that and you are at 76K and three milestones done.

[subtle nest]

the more that finish the SMS the less are working for the IMS so it slows down alot

[sweet valve]

You know, this arc is so horrible, I'm actually actively finally interacting with the last one. 🤣

[brazen cargo]

@full swan Recall all ship???? This will be the Second Token for the Transgen Token System that Scoply has me to waste.

[worldly moss]

@full swan: at ops61 I need to fly about 20times with my ent-d t9 to get one exchange where I might get the directives for that hurak armadas... but I'm missing at least 3 dirs ... so 60!!! flights ending in a total crash...(this means also killing about 1000 hostiles!) and if that is done, the mining begins

[true radish]

<@&509690795536941056>, can you please let your bosses know that they should be listening to the community instead of doubling down on what we speak out about not liking. We complain about needing to spend too much time in-game to complete the grind. Dailies, battlepass, daily event and SLB if we choose to chase it and of course any old content grind for older currency if we are still working on it. This month you've added huge new grinding loop that include 3 new mining nodes, three different hostiles to hit, and two different armadas. Plus new ferengi battlepass and chronicles of ascent events on top of all that.

Player burn out is real. We don't have time for this, we don't have patience for this, this is a game and not a job. The recent arch and decisions from scopely are pushing players from the game. Players in my allaince are confused and not even attempting parts of this.

You need to fix this, REDUCD the grind, drop costs and milestones, to make things quicker in game. Give us hazard resistance below G6 so we can actually mine and get what we need. No small adjustments, just fix this once or more players are probably going to leave.

[subtle nest]

They have to create issues so they are able to sell you a solution to the problems next month

[fervent panther]

https://tenor.com/view/they-literally-don't-care-marques-brownlee-they-really-don't-care-they-truly-don't-care-mkbhd-gif-3931358730973663881

[thorny wedge]

As an additional data point from S89 - We will likely finish IMS stage 2, but it's been really slow progression. But looking at the hurak XSLB myself and others have already spent our rare/epic directives. I don't think anybody cares about the IMS anymore (myself included).

Can you fix that? Yes - cut the IMS milestones down, make directives guaranteed payout from the dropship refinery. Happy customers = spending customers. Ask the accountants to look up net promoter score and why it's a very common benchmark.

[rich moss]

recent in game announcement said tuesday

[keen plank]

Live ops eventdesign and timing needs a serious ethical control manager.
They are unable to draw the line, abuse power given to them and need oversight.

[icy marsh]

don't blame the event designer, the thing is rotten from the top down. it starts at the company exec level who's pushing for these

[harsh nexus]

That’s every arc. Pt1 is a struggle. Buy the ship in pt2 to make it easier.

[indigo cliff]

Dear Scopely, hello, and hope you are doing well. Just so you know, no one gives a good or bad **** about this Flashpoint stuff. Yes, I know, it’s terribly surprising. But, there it is. I finished my sms (sorta) for the rewards, meager as they are, but the rest of this arc can take a hike. I’m sorry that you bet 6 months of game time on this, because it really is about as poorly thought out as I’ve seen in my year here. Hopefully, you learn a little, before you finally manage to bury the game for good.

P.S. You may be trying to cater to your spenders, and pushing for everyone to go g6 for said spenders to prey on, but you REALLY can’t be this short sighted. Or can you?

[sinful heart]

Nope, spenders aren’t buying the BS either.

This is Server 8 (the oldest sever) and how WE feel about the joke rewards vs the time investment that is expected.

As you can see, it is going about as well as a deuce in the punch bowl.

This failed. Quit trying to make “fetch” happen, acknowledge that you either read the room totally wrong (unlikely as you, Scoply do not read much of anything here 🙄) or start to understand that WE ARE PEOPLE. Not drones, not your personal atm’s and we WILL act according to OUR natures and play styles, not yours.

YOUR job as a business is to figure out what your customers want and sell it.

Hint, we have told you repeatedly what we want, listen.

This whole arc is sadism on over drive.

And the player base has responded with “not my bag baby”.

Catch the clue bus.

[drifting drift]

might work for some ppl, would take me like 66 horizon hulls. thx no and agree to everything anyone else said above..

[solemn tide]

<@&509690795536941056> please explain the difference in hostile requirements between different servers

[high harbor]

You adjusted the Flashpoint events wrong. This is hilarious.

See, I noticed that, at least for my ops level (45) and server, the Stage 1 and 2 SMSes got adjusted down. Except... That wasn't the issue. Stage 3 was the issue. I cannot defeat one single Hurak Vanguard. Lemme say that clearly: ops 45 players cannot take down one Hurak Rare or Epic directives entity. It doesn't matter how many Hurak dropships are killed, how many directives you hand out.

In our XSLBs, I see 100 players in the dropship killing SLB. The lowest score is in the hundreds. It's a thing players can actually do, however tedious.

In the Vanguard XSLB? 37 players have bothered trying. The 10-25 range is scoring in the tens of millions, that is, well below having killed a single Hurak Vanguard. Across 2 servers, less than a dozen players have killed a vanguard in the range including ops 45 (idk the ops range for these XSLBs)

The Stage 3 SMS requires killing 4 lv45 vanguards. Getting any IMS Stage 3 reward means killing at least 1 to score (not that it matters since our server will, I guarantee, not finish that IMS and probably won't hit the third milestone).

For some reason, you wanted to spread the infection. So, in the Ferengi Exchange Battle Pass, you've established a Seasonal Ferengi Exchange: Hurak Offensive Heroic task to kill 12 lv45 Vanguards. Again, it is almost impossible at ops 45 to kill a single one. Nevermind how practically impossible it is to accumulate 12 sets of directives in one run of the Flashpoint event. If that SMS is necessary to complete the BP and/or overflow... Oh boy, you're gonna have a heck of a lot of angry customers.

How can you fix this? Just auto complete the SMSes, maybe. Or switch them to killing dropships. Or mining. I don't know.

But for the umpteenth time:

Ops 45 cannot kill Hurak Vanguards. If we're meant to do it, you designed the task incorrectly. No combo of ships or officers is getting the job done.

[smoky tusk]

We need hurak directives sourcing before the end of the event…this arc is becoming painful

[limber gust]

Very well written!

[frigid socket]

Yeah if the loot chest don’t drop directives what’s the point of the arc? 7 pulls 0 directives.

[viscid thorn]

So many different event shops and again no badges for officers....

[heady glacier]

Even though it would increase grinding for many, eliminating the grade of loot would help. Needing grade 6 loot, and not being able to do it is a part of the problem. Just make it across the board with that stuff.

[outer brook]

Are you aware there are no rare 63 huraks spawning on server 168?

[rose gust]

Probably.

They just dont care, though.

[molten marlin]

look in orkan

[outer brook]

Thanks

[hollow wigeon]

@molten marlin so the 66 Epics are definitely bugged somehow ...

[molten marlin]

how's that?

[hollow wigeon]

Look at the battlelog. Zero damage dealt with his own shots.

[molten marlin]

all g6 epics had a zero damage shot round 1

[hollow wigeon]

Why? Krencha has 1 weapon that should fire in round 1.

[languid ice]

Read the armada abilities.

[lucid idol]

always the case with krencha, shocking that you've only just noticed tbh lol. Cube is infinitely better for these armadas, g6 firing pattern is 💩 ... G6 epics are insanely underwhelming once you realise this, it's basically like the entire roster of G6 ships are solely intended for tiering the cube, my krencha is t12 and still pretty underwhelming. Scopely made an absolute hash of G6.

[hollow wigeon]

Armada abilities are apex barrier and enhanced iso damage for themself. Nothing about deactivating weapons in attacking shisp

[hollow wigeon]

I don't have them yet 😬
The screen is from a player in my alliance

[languid ice]

Firing pattern has no effect on what’s being shown here. Original poster’s issue is that a shot’s damage was reduced to zero.

[lucid idol]

and what I'm saying is, that is the firing pattern. First shot always hits for zero. Incredibly frustrating, shouldn't be that way, but according to Scopely it's intentional. Don't ask me why, literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but unfortunately thems the breaks

[stoic lark]

Its time for scopely to pull the plug on this arc and just award all players with the rewards!

[high harbor]

Specifically, award everyone the Stage 3 IMS and SMS completions. There are the Flashpoint Invasions Meta IMS events and the Repel Hurak missions which cannot be completed because not one server will complete the IMS, plus many players in the targeted ops range can't kill a single Hurak Vanguard anyway so they wouldn't get the IMS rewards. If these completions aren't given, the missions will clog players' mission inventory forever, the cascading series of events won't work, all the effort your devs put into this month of the arc won't work

I get that the idea is to sell a ship and some officers like SNW Scotty to punch up at the Hurak hostiles and invading entities. As per past arcs. However, in the first month, that isn't available, so all of this is for nought. It's not an appetizer, making players want to have the magic ship for the new fancy area. It's just super annoying and dissuading players from paying attention to the rest of the arc. Hazard damage meaning substantial repair bills every 40 mins, inability to complete the smallest tasks presented, overlapping impossible events... It's quite dispiriting. Surely you have some sort of UX psychologist to explain how making a bunch of impossible events is frustrating as hell, not motivating

[gloomy current]

I'm strong for my ops level (42), and I'd still be the 6th strongest 45 on my server (if i was to ops up), and I don't come close to killing a Vanguard Armada - which means the vast majority of people in my tier aren't able to participate in the new content.

With the Hurak armada's as tough as they are, you are preventing over half the players in each grade from even taking part in the content - that's ill thought out and poor game design from your end and it's extremely demotivating for players.

Telling players to "ops up" doesn't solve the problem, because there are a lot of players who are higher ops than me who are far weaker - These players listened to you, they've done what you told them and advanced their ops, but now they're all stuck because they haven't done all the groundwork to get their rare faction ships (rep and credits). They are now in a terrible position of being too weak for their level to engage in new content - and that's not something you can easily fix as it can take months for them to grind what is necessary.

[kind rapids]

Also low 40s, not able to do do any of the arc content. It's obviously not really for us, which is fine by me the amount of additional content after 40 is already too grind heavy. They should have just locked the new content to 50+ and had separate content below to allow the rest of us to have something to engage with.

Nothing about this arc inspires me to level up quickly, in fact it's the exact opposite I plan to sit where I am until literally every bit of build and research is complete.

[keen plank]

if they did that there wouldn t be a single server completeing the IMS stage 1 because there can at most farm 2-3 players efficiently per system

[main marlin]

the stage 3 ims milestone are still pretty insane. Expecting several hundreds people to be triple pulling for directives per server is foolish

[shadow trellis]

Scopley killed the arc from the start

[wispy pier]

How is it i beat this in 1 hit. than on a brand new hull I kill 90% of it and nothing after 3 more hits. Can your coders screw up the game any more?

I go from 1 hitting them to dieing and than barely scratching it. Horrible event and event launch. I guess we don't test the product before release just drop it and fix it on the fly. More and more people are either not spending or left game. More events aren't going to bring in more money if everyone quits. FIX THE GAME.

[heady glacier]

Something isn’t right. I devastate the 66 epics with t15 cube. It’s very consistent. Don’t understand all that. They work fine

[wispy pier]

shouldn't even be such a big difference in hits. never mind the fact im a 69 having to do 60s. only 1 person who's a 70 can really go above 60 armada.

[wispy pier]

was suggested to swap scotty for troli not much of a difference in fail

[novel mango]

Yes, they try and force us to level up ops . Then every time I get a higher ops it feels like a punishment not that I achieved something. I am going to sit at ops 39 possible forever the way things are going.

[subtle nest]

fix will be put on sale in 2 weeks at start of month

[mild moth]

Can you tell us what crew you use?

[thorny parrot]

I’m ops 66 and can kill easy without buff rare 63 with full buff 66 rare. But we have no rare ones anymore. They don’t spawn. Thx for giving this stuff a second try and it is still not working. But if this stay really for a half year maybe someone can finish all steps in the last try.

[untold zephyr]

Why only include g6 in these

[dark jewel]

Event is not labeled correctly. It should have been at a minimum a heroic.

[untold zephyr]

If you look at the title doesn't it say it

[sharp hollow]

Wrong word .... its TRASHPOINT

[warm haven]

The bad new precedent it seems.

My feedback is return the old list with g5 mats included. The new change is NOT positive among g6 players in my alliance

[twin knoll]

if anyone at STFC actualy reads this thread just for you If you think I am going to waste hours and hours grinding ships so I can waste time doing armadas when I could be doing other things that are much more interesting such as watch tv, bake a cake watch paint dry you really have no idea what your player base actually wants

Your going to lose even more players because the grind is just too much, perhaps when you have lost another 10k you will start to look up from your book and coffee and try to work out where you went wrong.

Will I spend more money on stfc? difficult question...nope its not ....NO! no more cash untill you stop with the dumb loops with hours of grinding im not playing that game.

[heady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

[regal oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/abba-money-money-money-its-a-rich-mans-world-70s-music-sweden-gif-17890846

[tame seal]

142m for the sms? guys....

[plain vortex]

This is a trash event if I can't spend my other mats, I'm a pretty fresh 61.

[vagrant topaz]

Bring back the normal spend events

[umbral halo]

I'm level 49 and I have to do 50M, it's getting worse and worse, they've really gone crazy at Scopely!! There will obviously be no materials from me either!🤦🏻‍♂️

[heady glacier]

Looks like 1 more sms. Hopefully it’s doable, otherwise. Screw it

[twin knoll]

I managed to amass enough stuff to pull 1 chest and guess what? I got absolutely 0 armada directives in the chest oh they are there under "chance" but I got none at all so for me the event is over I can go and do something else with my time perhaps they should put some under "Guranteed" but hey that would require someone to think about what they were doing

[sharp thistle]

Nice to know that events have been so badly designed that you get punished for going up in ops, what genius decided only G6 materials counted for the spend event? It's has always been all grades with different scores.... Just even more proof scopeply couldn't care about the player base and just want to get everyone to quit with these garbage events

[humble sleet]

What OP’s are you?
Really starting to get curious as it seems very feast or famine and I’m wondering if there isn’t an OP’s based RNG adjustment, wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen something weird like that

[arctic wadi]

It's embarrassing. I went up to 61 to have a better treasury for this event (the previous one to be honest, but I am waiting hoping scopely Will listen to us). We were not notified of such a big change. It is unbelivable how events always change for the worse

[rocky sleet]

<@&509690795536941056> Please pass this along to whoever came up with the material spend SLB: Thank you for removing previous grade materials from the SLB this weekend and doubling the milestones over previous SLBs. It's good to know that you're looking out for your player base in light of the Q&A where we were told that we're all too weak to play your game. It's not like the officer we've been working towards would have any impact at all in being able to advance in flashpoints. You're doing great work making sure that we can't possibly have a reasonable chance to participate without spending hundreds of dollars per month.

[heady glacier]

It’s as if they adjusted the milestones because we were using all grade mats, so they removed the other grades and forgot to lower the milestones to reasonable levels.

[worthy lance]

As a freshly minted level 61 player, how the heck am I expected to compete in an event where I need to spend Unc and Rare 6* material when I have NOTHING THAT NEEDS IT?

[honest dune]

it means you have to use scopely store that's why they remove the others 😑

[rocky sleet]

You're fault for following their orders to get into G6 (I'm joking, it's not your fault). They've doubled down on punishing people.

[vagrant topaz]

Hello scopes am I never going to be able to use g5 stuff as an ops 63 player in the spend event? Why is this

[obtuse hull]

I thought this type of event used to be 70 million points for the top milestone?
Also you could spend G5 materials too. This is not achievable for most players.

[humble sleet]

The problem is they will reference your comment to prove to some manager they are doing a good job while ignoring the thousands of serious comments that show backlash…

[scenic smelt]

This is annoying. i wonder why I even hopped Scopely whould listen... But nope. I'm ops 62 and i only have small amounts of g6, only uncommon and I have to compete against ops67 players that can access G6 combat ships.
Is "SLB" now stands for Such a Low Balance ?! I thought at some point it was about competition, it seems that the focus on spending is not actually about materials at all... Ok then, i'll keep my G5 again...

[rocky sleet]

Normally I'd say there's no way anyone is that thick, but this is scopely after all.

[regal oxide]

I would need approx 60,000 G6 rare or 120,000 G6 uncommon to complete that, and the funny thing is even if I did have that saved away to spend, in G6 no one would have the speed ups required to be able to spend that if they had it!!

It’s a joke event that highlights they haven’t a clue how their own game works!!

Utter fail! 💩

[winged briar]

So, to acknowledge the fact that players loved to new half-arc long recruit SMSs, we are back to the 2 days ones?

[humble sleet]

Honestly I feel it’s not about being thick….

The same mindset is being pushed by large companies, schools and in politics, “ignore the dissent, we know better, and just cherry pick what feedback we use”

[normal cosmos]

This will probably get drowned out in all the negativity, but I wanted to say thank you to whomever (finally) made split brackets in G6 AND allowed scoring 1-50 instead of 15 or 25 in those brackets. Both are really appreciated.

I also hope that stays the new normal for G6 SLB’s.

[mortal tartan]

<@&509690795536941056> Are you guys planning to acknowledge the unanimously negative feedback about these "new and improved" events and arcs? They're a blatant cash grab, and a slap in the face to long term players. I've been playing for about 5 years now and while I'm not a whale I've bought a not insignificant amount of things over those years.

No more.

I won't be throwing good money after bad. You won't get another cent out of me until you pull your heads out of your asses and actually start listening to your players, and stop insulting us by saying that you're decreasing grinds and screen time, and that you're giving players what they want.

Over 10,000 players have quit in the last month, and I can see why and fully expect that number to sky-rocket.

[heady glacier]

There is one big problem. G6 speedups. That’s what hurts g6 players. They should split the brackets from g5 no doubt,but not split any of our materials

[knotty acorn]

These last two arcs have been the most soul crushing, joy stripping arcs I’ve ever seen. We have so many people quitting our server over it. I’m personally 1.5 feet out the door.

[knotty acorn]

The fact we don’t have g5 scrapping makes this a bigger slap in the face. This arc is designed to see if the game is sustainable anymore. I believe it’s a do or die situation. Either they get enough whales to spend to compete the events or they face the fact it there’s no longer profitable. They are testing to see how much stress and frustration to player basis willing to tolerate. The fact that they have really ramped up the heat says they are in a dire situation. These types of games rely on testing the frustration limits of the player base to see just how much they will spend and targeting player tiers.

[obtuse hull]

It's like someone said how can we screw the player base? Then someone said remove the possibility of using G5 materials during the officer events.
No that's not enough. Let's also double the points requirement for the event.

[knotty acorn]

You have to remember the game you’re playing. They don’t care about keeping the user base happy. They care about creating a system that provides microdoses of dopamine hits. They balance that against frustration to keep you on the edge and see just how much you will spend to avoid frustration and increase dopamine.That is all this game is designed for.

[raven garden]

Same exact wording for a material spend event.

[naive inlet]

Everyday Im becoming increasingly convinced this is EXACTLY what $copely wants.

[mortal tartan]

Because they're absolutely clueless about human nature? The whole reason whales spend big is so they can flex on the poors. If the F2P players all quit there's nobody to give them the ego boost any more and they'll go elsewhere for their dopamine fix.

[junior juniper]

so, i'm ops 48, shipyard 48, fkr reputation is at 2, 11 and 16bil each, but i can't see the 4* epic ship blueprints in the event store. what am i missing?

[knotty acorn]

They actually hire people who specialize in monetizing through psychological tactics. You wouldn’t believe the amount of data they track

[naive inlet]

I dont think its possible to accidentally be as aloof as $copely is which further reinforces my theory that they're trying to get enough people to quit to justify letting the game die so they can reallocate their stfc resources to a bigger cash cow like Monopoly or Pokemon.

[sharp thistle]

They will complain they aren't getting positive feedback, but they will do absolutely NOTHING to change anything. I'd say they were clueless, but even someone with half a brain cell would be able to work out continually neglecting things will cause more problems. So I'm fairly sure scopely couldn't care less, they will keep these problems going as long as possible then push out a new ship to "$fix£" the problems, then change the store once f2p get it

[somber ocean]

What a huge middle finger to anyone ops 61. I waited to spend G5 on new G5 epics for... Checks notes... No reason, apparently.

The events are all broken because scopely doesn't know how to do math. At least it'd easy for me to ignore the events. Fortunately I'm in a crosshair heavy alliance so I make my own fun spodling other player's pixles. Otherwise, I'd probably so frustrated that I would quit... For the 3rd time 😵‍💫

[mortal tartan]

I thought STFC was right up there in the top earning mobile games? Why mess that up, and kill the only Star Trek mobile game still standing? That's alienating a massive playerbase/customer pool. If they kill the game nobody from here is going to touch another Scopely product ever again. Makes no sense.

If they're hiring people to give them advice on psychological marketing tactics they need to fire them, they repeatedly and demonstrably screwed the pooch the last several months in a row.

[sharp thistle]

That would require scopely admitting they are doing things wrong, something I very much doubt will ever happen, the only thing anyone can expect from scopely, is for things to get worse and worse

[knotty acorn]

Scopely makes money off your frustration. Don’t let them. You, and I, are hoodwinked.

[silver briar]

You continue to move the goal posts in a negative way. You’ve increased the sms event milestones and limited the scoring over time. People are sick of the greed. The level of negative sentiment you generate is unsustainable.

[naive inlet]

From what I can see STFC isnt even in the top 25 for FY 2024. MonopolyGo was second at 1.58b and the newly acquired PokemonGo was 13th at 545m

So far this year MonopolyGo is still in top 10 at 555m

According to sensor tower there were only 20k downloads of the game last month and $2m in revenue made.

[mortal tartan]

Even so, focusing all their "STFC energy" on those games wouldn't increase profits by what they'd lose if they shuttered STFC. You don't become a whale overnight - it's not new players that waltz in and drop megabucks, they test the waters with a little purchase here or there and slowly build up once they feel secure that their money is going to go down the drain when they get bored of the game after a week. It's established players that pay the bills, and throwing away a tonne of those makes zero sense.

People aren't loyal to the company, they're loyal to the game, and STFC appeals to a totally different demographic than pokemon and monopoly do. If they shutter STFC they lose all those players to another company.

[lofty glen]

Wow this is officially the Arc of no shame for scopely 🤣

[unique dome]

So did we ever figure out how stage points are calculated for each server? It's not player numbers. It's not total power. After looking at other servers with the same average power as mine I can find some almost exactly the same average power but still a lower point threshold.

[mortal tartan]

Right? And they can't even give us SNW Scotty as a reward for the "SNW Interceptor Champion", they give us the much worse version from last month 😒

Just wait for the Explorer, Battleship, and Survey versions to roll around every couple days for maximum grifting potential...

[subtle nest]

Just wait for the mining monday switch to transgen so they can sell us a new meridian

[sharp hollow]

It's easier for them to P-off enough ppl so they quit and then they can shut the game down and claim "interest just fizzled out"

[fickle peak]

on this game tbh

[idle parcel]

Interesting thoughts about hiring people who do psychology of gaming. Either I don't have the brain they think most of us have, or they are just dead wrong about who they collectively think we are.

The level of frustration that this game has generated for me personally, as well as many in my alliance, isn't one to where we all just feverishly open our wallets to ease the frustration.

Instead, like so many of you here, it's caused whales to close their wallets, and both f2p and whales to seriously consider quitting the game.

So, either Scopely overestimated our response to this several month nightmare, or they are doing, as some have said, to get enough of us to quit so they can give just cause to close the game.

Either scenario is a total 🐂💩 move on the part of Scopely, given that many of us have been playing this game from its inception, or close to it.

Even Ops 61 and up is a slap in the face, where you suddenly have to scratch and claw through hundreds of MU ships just to get a few measly speedups, or blow your entire lat surplus on one building. They must figure that by the time you reach Ops 61, that you're addicted enough to start spending more.

Wrong.

As frustrating as it is, I just don't move up. Oh well. They aren't getting my money or forcing me to spend my lat at 1.5m per day for upgrades.

Those things alone are frustrating, but combined with all the 💩 of these last few months, it's made many of us contemplate or actually deleting our accounts.

Great job. If I ever owned a business that had this many customers, I hope I would treat them 💯 better than the 🤡s at Scopely do with theirs.

[woeful smelt]

And whoever input the respawn times on the rare vanguard really messed up did 3 and sat in the system fully boosted waiting for respawn till the hazard damage killed me, an event to do them as quickly as possible and they don't instantly respawn, they need to fix this immediately

[naive inlet]

Exactly! They'll continue their trend of gaslighting and blame us.

[tacit zephyr]

Scopely's greed is enveloping all of the brand's games. Including Monopoly GO and Pokémon. They're running abusive events on all of them. They have complaints from all the players, from all of Scopely's games. This seems like the typical strategy of squeezing a brand before selling it.

[nimble oak]

Scopely's not the only company that does it. A lot of mobile game companies have the "make events impossible to force them to buy" mindset.

[sinful heart]

Having just went to 61 (after level maxing all buildings and research prior to doing so, #top10inallstfcops60) I have run into an absolute wall for progress. And with the new scoring mechanisms I have absolutely no desire or reason to do more than dailies and “hurry up and wait” for things to get done.

And as a police officer I am not rich enough (nor would I) spend my way to completing, nor do I have the time to do all these new loops and grinds.

I stopped spending in ‘23 because of what they were doing. Starting buying the bp’s (even the kicker ones) when they introduced the choice tokens.

They lost me again!

This is not an example of a good strategy.

This is hubris.

[mortal tartan]

Surely you can find some cashed up dealers civic minded citizens to donate some packs to your cause...

[torn plinth]

Even if I go from Ops 49 to Ops 50 and max two Tribunes I would not be able to hit that spend goal to finish the SMS. Stop with these unrealistic events!

[mild ore]

This arc is awful, why make an event like this just make a pack that includes the officer. You really have lost touch with the players

[idle parcel]

Wow, you have the potential for having a stressful job, depending on what you do, so having stress in a game isn't what you probably have in mind for a game.

Yeah, I'm Ops 62. I can go to 63, but I'm trying to collect the measly speedups before I do, otherwise it's 15 plus days.

I found it quite shocking to go from 60 to 61, in terms of the lack of speedups and the cost to upgrade in lat. I think Scopely hopes we are addicted enough by now to spend the big bucks to upgrade.

The things helping me now are hitting 68 and 70 MU surveys hostiles, in hopes they throw out 15 hr speedups, and buying speedups from the DTI faction store.

I was lucky that I timed my 61 to when I got the free treasury, otherwise there's no way I'd be ready to hit 63. I've been spending my lat on the 5g research stuff, as it's much cheaper, and upgrading any ships that need it. Otherwise, yeah, it's not easy going through the 60s.

[sinful heart]

It can be yes. In ‘19 &’20 I leaned heavily on this game and it’s steady monotony to get through real life. I was a detective then and had the extra money. That and I had lost Marvel Hero’s because Gazillion was dumb.

But I moved, I started over and working patrol again, and they pay way less in NC than I got paid in IN. So between time and money I was hurting.

Now I am barely treading water. Just unlock the GS 31 yesterday, gonna be a long time till it is useful.

I find myself playing actual Nintendo/SNES and or Dawn of War more these days.

Because I have totally been cured of FOMO.

You could ask the guys I came up in this game, the Reliant and the Ent refit were my dream ships…and this is where it is at.

That is a failure on Scoply’s side. Because two years ago that would have been a day one purchase for me.

But I ain’t Charlie Brown. I see you Lucy.

[low mantle]

<@&509690795536941056> ims3 scoring is bugged

[upper sky]

True enough, the difference I have seen with STFC is the pricing.
The two other games I play (Star wars, Warhammer) packs are priced from $5 to $20, and actually have an impact on the game.
Most packs for this game are $100, and are rarely worth the effort.

[lofty glen]

Scopely you are just taking the mickey now. This is just disgusting and shows a huge lack of respect for the player base. After 5yrs of playing I congratulate you on coming up with an arc that I have no interest in engaging with.

[copper shadow]

I do the same i play more of the old style retro game consoles and game just because I dont have to feel like i need to drop 500$ each month just to rank 100 in a leaderboard on those games. I understand mobile games is a huge business and there's money to be made sure but seriously in the almost 7 years I've been on this game and the money I spent the first 4 yrs I could have rebought every console from Nintendo to now and owned every game from Nintendo to ps2 and still have money left over with what I dumped into this game. Funny part is that still only puts me in the dolphin stage of what ppl spend in this game and thats truly disgusting when you think about it.

[north granite]

They have long since passed a trust thermocline, now it’s just about abusing what’s left until they can claim not enough players to sustain server costs

[idle parcel]

Yeah, Scopely messed up big time. And yes, starting over in a new place can be quite daunting. Hopefully you move up doing what you enjoy doing in your career.

Ha, yes, glad we can see the Lucy antics of Scopely.

I got my GS-31 just a few days ago as well.

I don't like that the epic solo waves use the same currency as the regular solos. That, and Scopely is so cheap with the slow drop directives. It will be awhile before I can make good use of nine too.

[wispy pier]

Scopley already sold to savvy games, I think it was year 2 of monoply. they had just reported doing 2billion since its start.

[dusky mortar]

The Flashpoint IMS stage 3 milestones are not possible. Terrible values, please adjust milestones.

[subtle nest]

its weekend there wont be any changes till its over

[dusky mortar]

worst arc in 2 years...

[sterile rivet]

Are you having a freaking laugh?!?! The Final Synthesis is 3.22m to finish, at G3 thats 161k G3 materials, who the hell has that much resource op35 and below? Did you wake up this morning and suffer a stroke during calculations? Absolutely insane, this game gets worse by the day.

[spiral veldt]

For the 61+ Hurak, they would be more appealing to grind after FKR rep is finished if they also dropped Sigma Speedups.

[knotty acorn]

I'd disagree with you on this point. These companies have a variety of different game and monetization psychologists. It's all about a balance of of creating enough frustration to prompt whales to buy but not enough to make them quit. The whales fund this game through their addiction and low frustration tolerance. It's all about keeping them from rage quitting but also spending. The latest arc, though, shows they've deeply mis-estimated just how much frustration their player base can tolerate. I've seen several bigger spenders outright quit in anger in the last 30 days. They pushed the frustration boundary too far. So, either Scopely wants to really test the spending habits or they are looking to do a massive cash grab and close the game.

[shadow yew]

i'm ops 61. don't have anything that need to use uc and rare 6* mats yet. this is kinda disappointing that sms requires only to use those. i still have plenty of researches that use 5* mats, though. hint hint hiinnnttt

[knotty acorn]

The dopamine to frustration ratio is way, way off with these last two arcs.

Since STFC isn't in their top few highest profit games, I'd guess they are pressing their userbase as hard as they can to see how it shakes out in the data. I don't know how they couldn't foresee this level of attrition, though. Your digital assets are going to go poof eventually, though, and we will all be the losers at the end of it.

Likely some exec is convinced the userbase has a higher tolerance than it really does. Or, they saw the ratio of whales:F2P is too low and it doesn't matter anymore. Maybe it's an intentional culling.

[humble sleet]

Ok Finally get the hate around the ”Hurak Honorguard” and I feel like it encapsulates the problem with this whole arc.

After grinding so hard every day it feels like a job I manage to do triple pulls on the “Targ Tag Exchange” every single day since the event started I finally got an Epic start.

I find the Honor Guard, kill the Honor Guard, and after the dust settles and I open the PvE loot box it doesn’t even reward me enough “House Hurak Emblems” for a single pull.

For reference I’m an OP’s 50 killing a lvl 45 Honor Guard so it’s not a problem of punching down and of course coming up short, it’s literally the only target inside my OP’s range.

Yes I know you all are getting spammed <@&509690795536941056>, but honestly how can any of this Arc feel motivational or designed to ”hook the players interest” when after finally getting the needed resource to challenge something after days of effort the net results feels like a giant middle finger (I try to always stay constructive but seriously…)

More importantly how is anything in this Arc actually designed to encourage players to open their wallets and spend, to say nothing of just keeping the players you already have engaged?

[subtle nest]

Its the business model, make issues to sell solution in next part of the arc. WoK same way, hard mobs and hunters so they can sell reliant and crew

[fickle peak]

True, but they're going too far now. It's over for them.

[fickle peak]

Triple pulls? Lol. Get to G6. You can't even do a SINGLE pull after finishing Stages 1 AND 2.

[humble sleet]

I’ve heard.
If I hadn’t been grinding away my soul while punching up killing 52’s and 54’s it wouldn’t have happened, and I fully admit that I’m an exception, most have to punch down

[magic stump]

No one that I've spoken to that should be able to load this leaderboard is able to. Flash points events >> transogen extraction SLB

[frank osprey]

Scope has to be going under at this point for them to not care and not fire the people making these events. There is no way they play this game to be making these events. This spend event that wants me as an Ops 57 player to spend G5 & G6 mats. Where do I mine G6 again? Oh yeah. Deep deep deep space that's lvl61+. Oh and those systems are locked behind warp path blocks with the "complete mission ops 61 to unlock this path" notice. So where is a G5 player mine G6 for this event? Oh yeah they don't.

Scope has destroyed any and every bit of good will or respect they've gathered over the last few years in the last 3 months. At no point have they seemed to listen to the players over the last 3 months.

I don't think my server is going to get out of stage 2 Flashpass this time. 1st time it was new and then Scope screwed EVERY PLAYER in stage 3. They scrambled and brought it back with tweeks for another go but it looks like the 1st time killed a lot of enthusiasm. That and needing 57,000 drop ship kills in 1 day(then 1 day for the armadas and 1 more days for the mining. That was how it was planned). I mean, thank god they uped the points per kill from 1 to 2 points though...

Again, the game seems to be in the hands of people that don't play it, don't care about it or the players and don't listen to the players. Never buying another thing from the store. You do not deserve my money.

[wispy pier]

stage 3 is still screwed up

[versed grotto]

Face it, they arent going to fix it. They probably give us another small comp for the mess-up. Then we're guinea pigs for the run next week to see if any of their bandaids actually worked....

[naive folio]

And on top of everything else, stage 3 SMS is impossible for any low to mid-level 40 ops... Way to go cutting out your player base again!!!

[wispy pier]

I'm 69 and there are things in this event I won't complete. its not just the small f2p guys

[bright tapir]

Does it help any to add on that no server is going to finish IMs this time either!?

[wispy pier]

been said many times and I've yet to see any mod respond that they think there is an issue

[tawdry hill]

Based on the calendar it should be Suliban Domination not Transogen Excavation. Having the same issue as well.

[deep mulch]

these events and the ridiculously expensive and drop in value for all items is hurting the FAN Star trek itself was made famous due to the fans that enjoyed it. I personally have had to give up the current events. too many grinding events mixed with reskined Fatu kray ideology. Ships only one level of players can afford and Still terrible game glitches and even my Cube is not registering kills and not charging up as it should. I dont know what to say. I wish someone would take over the game, fix it and keep their promises.

[atomic fossil]

little irritating that my liberate stage 3 finish is not applied to the ims stage 3 that the galaxy just got started. 😒 especially, with only one dang day and zero directives, left.

[hollow nimbus]

Why give the G4 players the SMS and IMS for stage 3+ if you are going to make the lowest level entities impossible?

[magic stump]

Ah ok. So it's stuck. Any precedent on the resolution?

[tawdry hill]

I am honestly unsure. I opened a ticket.

[stone glade]

Please cleanup that two missions ... no one can finish it 🤷

[fading veldt]

I feel like I'm playing go hunt the events everyday

[gray belfry]

this event really sucks is unplayable and van guards are unbeatable

[final valve]

My god , they are in your favourites 😱😱😱. 🫣

In all seriousness, yes they need removing. 🙂

[shadow trellis]

Move them to archives

[stone glade]

Arc-Missions I always set as favorite 😉

[fading veldt]

Does anyone have a link to the event ranking has anyone made it to stage4?

[runic meadow]

https://stfc.pro/servers

[fading veldt]

This shows invasion to be inactive ?

[runic meadow]

There is no saris invasion on. Click on Flashpoint to see the epic failures of all the players. As it’s our fault we cannot complete the tasks set.

[fading veldt]

There not attainable so it's not our fault
Scopley Staff should be testing the next Arc while we're playing current one of they can't meet the mile stones then neither can we

[runic meadow]

A successful Arc is measured on pack sales, not completion of events. The fact that they said they would fix the event after the first run, shows the utter contempt they have for the player base. But the they will forge on, as long as the packs are being sold.

[fading veldt]

I ain't buying any

[naive viper]

Whoever thought it would be a good idea to activate a chaser when you reset a miner in token transogen system needs to be taken outside and.... spoken to (not my first choice but i dont want to be banned). Lost a miner because i didnt realise i had to stun another chaser.

[copper shadow]

ya that shoulda been done after the first run of these events but odds are they'll do it at the end if not later and say whoops like its brand new news to them that we couldn't get to that stage with 20 days of non stop messages of this exact situation.

[runic meadow]

Doesn’t the experience of that, make you feel part of the community.

[vagrant topaz]

Haven't had that happen but that's just terrible

[somber ocean]

Something that seems pretty clear Scopely doesn't take into account is just how much planning their player base does around progression and spending g mats, etc. For example, pushed to 61 to start slowly acquiring G6 and Sigma things - deferred leveling up my ships so that I would have the ability to at least complete the SMS (placing on SLBs w/out spending in G6 is ha!) - and now I'm sitting here finding myself not even wanting to level the ships. I have NO visible pathway in-game to acquire the new officer because Scopely arbitrarily altered the fundamental game mechanics around scoring without bothering to inform their players about it ahead of time.

[rapid willow]

The ims is still not do able how can a scoring metric be this off 2 times in a row the highest servers are at 40% second place in the eu has 18% this should be do able for the most servers and not this far of

[fringe trail]

What everyone fails to realize is the Scopley team is testing the arcs, however they are playing on modded accounts with everything needed (or new) so they think we should all be on that same lvl of playing.

[dark jewel]

They have to make the revenue goals so power creep doesn't matter if you want the officer pay for him or her.

[sharp iris]

After three days of chest pulls, I finally got some RNG with directives—woop woop. But honestly, this new Flashpoint mechanic feels needlessly convoluted for a mobile game. It’s too much of a time sink, and players who spent their directives early now find themselves stuck while stage 4 remains locked. Unless the server collectively completes IMS milestones, it seems unlikely we’ll ever progress past stage 3.
Suggestion: either redesign the progression mechanics or lock entities until IMS completion. Otherwise, the community will stall indefinitely.
To the <@&509690795536941056> unless milestones are drastically lowered or you iterate on this event structure, I’m personally opting out. I’ll do what I can, but I won’t invest more than 30 minutes—it’s not worth sacrificing time with my family just to chase an arbitrary goal that most players can’t reach. If this format is what we’re expected to endure for the next six months, you’ll likely see more players drift away.
I’ve always loved this community and the game, but the last two arcs haven’t captured the spirit of Star Trek

[ornate otter]

So scrolled back.... seen no responses from the <@&509690795536941056> which is massively disappointing. You are meant to be managing the community, not ignoring it. Do your job, or maybe give it to someone who may at least take an attempt at it. Questions have been asked, and I appreciate a lot of pings, but you seem to have just buried your head in the sand. Is that your decision.... or Scopely saying to not engage?
I don't know why I am asking a question, when clearly nobody cares enough to actually do the decent thing and answer to the people that play and spend their hard earned cash in this dumpster fire game.

Guess it really is be a whale or extinction

[vast basin]

There's too much grinding for "daily" progression for events like Flashpoint invasion to work currently. Rewards do not justify spending time on IMS that is unlikely to finish.

Add in a store where you can spend Hurak Tags on stuff you would normally grind, make it efficient enough and you can cut amount of grind in the game and make the event something I look forward to.

For example I'm spending a lot of time in MU for sigma speedups during these events. Currently they give FKR rep, which can be good for some but I think it's too limited.

[low mantle]

<@&509690795536941056> ims3 dont give step rewards!!!!

[late siren]

<@&509690795536941056> even with the revised milestones and pts scoring its crystal clear that not a single server will finish the IMS which is not surprising and the directives sourcing is so poor. Nothing else needs to be said apart from why would anyone bother when you run this again next week?

[humble sleet]

To be fair, it’s not the CM’s / fault or responsibility, better to point the blame at Scopley solely.

They are effectively a bridge between us and the company they represent and likely they are have been told some variation of ”Please stand by, go radio silent”

And before I get accused of shilling, search my posts, I am critical but try to be constructive, and only am saying something because I’ve worked with CM’s for other games and have “seen how the sausage is made” and being a CM is a pretty thankless job.

Be angry, just don’t shoot the messenger!

[jaunty island]

The IMS is still beyond stupid. How many hours a day does Scopely think we want to fly around killing the same ships? The whole arc is bad. Is this the new STFC? Events people don't want to do because no one wants to grind 8 hours a day for meh rewards. Think I'll pass

[night otter]

You really don't think things through do you? Most won't even meet the 1st milestone of part 3. Bad arc, bad planning, just plain bad.