#💬-events-feedback
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Very low scopely. Very Very low and desperate. And that are the reasons because also whales quit.
happy new year ! The event itself was a nice change of pace but not well thought out. I for example completed every milestone except the poly armadas as I don't have a rev. That means for me there are 60 points missing and flying in the alliance is impossible because there are not enough revs to simply pull other players through. It's a real shame because it would have been a really nice end to the year except for this point. I hope someone will look into it again. Otherwise I wish everyone a happy new year 🥳
This event is a copy from Age of empires. But in AOE they using this event for make people login every day. Scopely tryng to grab money as usual. When you copy events you can at least copy also the spirit
hi I have missions that do not progress in this way, what should we do?
I'd say you need 180k, so just short, in theory should get it tomorrow with daily claim, but could be wrong
180k, 1.8M or…
The same is the case with me. It's a shame and frustrating at the same time that you can't complete this event just because you don't have the money for the new ship. It's a shame that you are excluded here and that you feel like a second-class player and that at a New Year's Eve event - really sad
Money aside, I don't need atm another loop. Force people to buy something they don't won't is so offensive
This is cool
If RAID whales quit no one cares, 🤣 well we throw a party every time you quit cause don't need scopely to push players out when your alliance is worst in the game 🤣
I just tried to do 2 alliance tournament tasks and they both just disappeared from my queue AFTER I started them. Something is broken
did alliance tournament open up an hour early, but not fully open, showing there are 39 (thought it was supposed be be closer to 20....)alliances in ours, but we are the only one listed. and manmy here are complaining about tasks not working right
Also, i question the wisdom inlaunching alliance tourney, on a day when most of them are off, knowing it has had nothing but problems since it launched...
Tasks aren't updating unless you reboot when you do a reroll.
having tasks that require equiping buy only tech (or any tech for that matter) is rediculous, you know id10ts are going to start the task without seeing if they have the tech...
I see they set the bar ridiculously high on alliance tournaments. What a dissappointment. Like im gonna go kill 5000 xindi hostiles. You are ruining this game with your greed scoleply.
Started an tournament task on the tablet. It was kill mirror hostiles. It counted the kills till around 12 and stopped. Went to see what's happening and the event was gone. It still counted the attempt. Moved to PC to do them properly and there were no attempts made, although it clearly counted the kills till around 12. 👏 Scopely 👏
I was referring about Beam, stronger player in EU who have quit after revenant release. Happy new year troll
anyone else having massive lag with the AT, I managed to complete one task but nothing has updated and now I cant get the tasks to change, have tried PC and android
If you restart the game, they'll update. It's a bug they STILL haven't fixed.
Have restarted 8 times, nothing is changing or loading hence the lag question. It's more like it cant reload any of the pages atm, It just appears the event wont even load at all since I managed to do something when it first went live
Seeing a lot of bugs in alliance games. I had to repeatedly start a task to get it to be recognized as started. Now it is not scoring fter it has clearly been started
re- new years celebration. As a frequent complainer about scopley - I will say this event had issues [ read the end ] . The tri spend and the new madas. Kinda ruff. The tri spend as far as I know did not overlap and upgrade events that I could/would participate in. As a levl 49, my highest milestones was 16.5B. I had no clue what that milestone was until another lvl 49 showed me a completed screenshot. I couldn't. I could only see my current spend. My highest level ship repair cost is 183.9M tri. [ ballpark like 90 full repairs ] The shipyard has not been updated- despite the "huge" amount of specialty ships added So I could not mindlessly throw tri at scrappers. Ship XP costs tons of Lat and space is an issue. The amount needed to score in the tri events was tantamount to multiple very high level ship upgrades with a very high cost associated [ not just tri ]. This was a pretty unbalanced target and frankly heroic. I think people have said enough on the new mada req's. All that being said: The rewards were pretty darn good. getting to choose is good. getting a decent amount of rewards was nice. I'm not mad. It was nice. Now just find away to have it make a bit more sense as laid out. Everything doesn't need to be a puzzle. Not knowing where you are at or where you can end up [ at least for me ] doesn't always cause Fomo. All in all, i thought the rewards where very nice. Just wish the December Event store got the updates we were told would happen. I guess this event caused the miscommunication? not sure...... Ya'll need to do better on comms...... Hoping 2025 is a good year for the game
Hello, help please ?
looks like upgrade chaos tech?
I can see that I am scoring in Alliance Tournement in the banners but not in the event
thanks not for cancelling my first tourney task, 10k points gone
So..what are we retrieving this time?
tournament tasks still are trash.
can you open up the voyager store thing again, i still had 100k token thingies i didnt use! It's such a busy time of year! pretty please!
The "Engage!" new year task mechanic is much better than the alliance tourmanent. The alliance tournmanet tasks being at the whim of RNG-gods is pretty bleak, especially as a lower ops player.
All these new events including the daily events are designed for one purpose....force ppl to spend, spend, spend if you want to complete anything.
Alliance Tournaments is a great feature, stare at a screen for hours hoping a task shows up that you can do.. WONDERFUL........... Scopley MAKE THIS FUN!!! just let us pick and choose what tasks we want to do......I feel like I was sent to a corner as punishment for trying to play your game ....
the NYE Boldly Go events are impossible to complete unless a percentage of your alliance bought the new ship. what if the new ship sucks and no one in our smart alliance got it? every other event of the NYE event is done and still 80 pts short
So your event wants me to spend 3500 Galactic Tokens, which I have, but i can only spend them in units of 8000, so I really need 4k, which I do not have. How many go arounds before you start fixing the easy problems with this event?
<@&509690795536941056> Why do you keep doing a "Tech Tuesday" and then as soon as that finishes, you add a new tech event in to run for 2 days, whatever happened to syncing events together
Any idea what the target for these are?
what ops
Any chance we could get the event store for December one more day? Had someone who didn’t spend any of their loot thinking they had one more day.
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Could you please have a look at the Tournament Scoring? It is completely screwed up right now.
We are already way past 470K points if I look at what our members scored, yet the Alliance-List says only 177K.
I'm 80 points short of this NYE event and I'm not going to buy a ship just to compete it
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> this is bugged, did 6 as the requirements state and no scoring at all.
do you have the CT equipped on the biggest ship?
that's how it scores
(don't ask why, what we discovered the first time the task was introduced)
39 alliances in a single bracket is odd. its so close yall should have done 20 and 19....
Alliance Tournament leaderboards still absolutely unreadable, I'm trying to encourage my alliance to take part but hard to tell where we are in table, whether we are chasing promotion, fighting relegation or within midtable obscurity. Please feed this back to devs and fix this, it detracts from the Alliance Tournament event which imo has otherwise improved and provides good rewards for each league status.
Finished every NYE event except the ones that require the rev and couldn't finish the event, extremely poor form to gate the final milestone this way.
No it's on an nxo1 and for my experience it didn't work that way. I'll try that way and let you know.
how it's worked since they introduced the task
It's working, thanks for the assistance
For my level (27) there are so few events that are feasible I have given up and ignore Alliance Tournaments altogether.
Alliance groups are back to being bugged. The 5 master league alliances on my server are all split into 2 groups seeing the same thing on several other servers I've spot checked
How can you guys screw up so much?
That is a character limit issue your likely 1 decimal place off from your actual milestone
DIDNT get credit for Alliance Tournment Commander Skill Points, is there a delay or something? Very frustrating
<@&509690795536941056> It would be lovely if Scopely would do something abt the dumb G6 items in the Alliance Tournament. No one on our server can do them. We reroll and they are constantly popping back up. It happened last tournament too and it is EXTREMELY frustrating,
@near saddle We need to be able to see what tasks are currently being done by people, 1, so we dont refresh for an hour trying to get it, 2, so we can get on them to finish it if they are taking forever blocking others from it.
@molten marlin might want to let them know, they are still selling packs with last months event store currency in them even though the store is gone.
Yet another thing screwed up, can’t see who we are up against. What their Score , no clue!
@molten marlin Can someone tell me why I wasn't credited for the skills I had for Commander Spock in Alliance Tournment Commander Skill Points?
depending on the task, it might be to convert uncommon skill points, into fc specific ones. like make uncommon ones into Spock ones. not actually upgrade the skills
For the daily you convert points, for the SLB you spend the points on actual skills.
hes talking about talliance tournament. not the daily or the slb
At this point cancel the tournament lmao, yall got tasks that ain’t scoring, like 60% of the alliances are split on LB so that will be a mess, and yall still ain’t fixed the task reroll bug from last time.
Well we're currently in master league, but I can't buy anything in the alliance tournament store as it has usn down as novice league. Though only seems to be affecting me in the alliance :/
Complete opposite with me can't do any task this time but got full prizes avaliable to me nice joke scorply ur doing well again
I did both, for the AT UT is spending on skills
For the xindi challenge for the allianve tournament, I think there should be a minimum of 1 point per hostile. I've been ops 38 (now 39) and just now realised that only every 3rd or 4th kill of the L34 and 35 Xindi scouts give points. So that's effectively 1200-1600 hostiles needed to kill for a 400 point assignment, even though it says 1 point as minimum.
for all kill hostile tasks, you should only take them if you can punch up and kill higher than your ops.
The scoring board for tournament is displaying a wrong score, they are missing 3/5ths of our players score atleast
Most alliances are split in 2 leagues for some reason, ours included
@near saddle - re alliance tourneys. why are the same alliances split into 2 brackets? my alliance is split. whats going on?
Are we receiving the same amount shown for individual challenges? In the picture this is for an individual reward for this challenge. From this I assume I’m getting “x160.” However I just did this challenge and the cloak one which was “x160 x160.” So overall that’s 480 tokens. But when I went to my event store I had 360. Is it a delay in receiving them?
I think the holiday boldly go event was in concept a good idea with less than ideal execution. Like not knowing what the amounts were due to narrow data fields, you could get rid of image on left and expand fields, and things like tasks that weren’t just difficult or heroic for some but outright impossible. Like polygon armadas for level 38 players that prevented me from completing the event. Other wise I sorta liked it and the rewards are ok I guess.
Anyone else having problems with the uc fleet command points not counting in the selected item in the tournament? Both my wife and I had the same problem.
You have to refine the uncommon fc points, not spend them. The tournament text is incorrect.
the text is correct, people are misinterpreting it
have since day 1
There's acquire and there's spend
That is how you spend "Uncommon Fleet Commander Skill Points". When you are on the skill tree it's "Fleet Commander XYZ Skill Points"
The ONLY place to spend "UC Fleet Commander Skill Points" is in the refinery
That's lame. Better be a compensation chest for the screw up.
That’s kind of the point isn’t it? It’s unclear. It comes up numerous times every tournament. Obviously the only way to “acquire” the points is to refine them, but it could be made much clearer to simply change the text to “refine” since for the other “acquire” items purchases are usually required.
No, the only way to acquire them is to upgrade the command center or buy them. People think the individual skill points are uncommon but they aren't
spending is when you refine them
Then maybe they should clear it up as it’s clearly a problem.
I have all the other tasks completed. To get the last tier complete, all of the tasks have to be complete?
I was able to upgrade cube to get the tritanium task done. Not sure why that would count towards repair but 1.5 trillion in repair would have been a big task.
Almost everything Scopley does has poor execution.
True enough but usually the poor execution is coupled with poor concept and poor design so you got to encourage them even when they only get parts of it correct.
@near saddle def something phishy happening in tournaments..... Members are scoring but not on my list. We show up in 2 brackets . Alliance is split / split points on the LB. this better not bump us from current rank or hinder our Emerald chain [ but it prob will ]
I am upset that the event store ended today on a holiday. I was busy in real life with family and missed my opportunity to spend all my event currency I earned. I had thought we had 1 more day for it.
we stopped getting currency for it 4 or 5 days ago....
This new alliance task doesn’t seem to reflect. NX01 has the chaos tech required. Attached are a rare Borg and rare cardi. But no credit given
the conduit needs to be on the biggest ship or only ship in the armada
I’ll try it out. Thanks for the feedback
- Got these New Years event.
I’ll post the pic in 5 minutes. Essentially the event is asking for Polygon Armadas in a Lv 39 capped server.
Anybody monitoring this channel???
Yall just need to spend more $ obviously
There is a need to be more specific on what is needed here and it keeps everyone guessing and picking up tasks that they ain't able to complete ... grrr
Does it require 100% completion ? I'm missing 10 points and have only a 60 point task left .... Other alliance-mates have the only the last 60 point task left and are done ....
I think my day 1 or 2 login didn't give points.... seems borked
Sadly it won't help here - we are a pre-ascended server.
Will the Alliance Tournament scoring be fixed before the end, or will some be happy to see a downgrade because the Alliance has been split into 2 brackets?
@full swan @near saddle
I have to say I’m still disappointed in the tasks and the rewards for them in the Alliance Tournament. It seems like the free-to-play tasks this time around somehow give less points, and still no tournament credits. And some mid-level tasks (3000-6000 points) don’t give credits when others that are 2000 points give credits.
Even having a small amount of credits for every task would help us, as alliance officers, encourage our members to play. Those are direct, quick to see, rewards that they can use immediately.
It is disturbing indeed.
@full swan Any chance to open the event store for another day? All my fault, but I missed spending my loot with all the festivities going on..
Same case for us
This is also easy to check: Member scores <> Alliance score.
Furthermore: Wasn't something once said about “at 20” in a group?
refreshes on tournament tasks are ridiculous, when you refresh a task or 2 or 3, you don't expect them to come around straight away, replacement tasks need re-organised, so newer tasks show and not ones that are continuosly refrshed
<@&509690795536941056> can we have something other than radio silence re the tournament brackets and scoring please? We’re being told we have just over 300k points when we actually have scored double that
Not borked 100% completion was required for 2240, then scopely gave out comp chests for the day 5 errors. This comp completed the final milestone for some but not everyone. 👀 the comp was borked
I think it would be good to run some actual events for alliance tournament when it's active. E.g. complete 3 tasks or something.
For casual players it's not particularly obvious the tournament is even active unless they know where to look.
I think an event would encourage participation.
A New Year's Celebration-event:
What i've disliked:
- buggy/awkward event counting, e.g. daily-login
- bad number display (tritanium repair "3800199936/<truncated>")
- heroic-tasks mixed in (instead of having it as a separated track like battlepasses)
- lack of clarity about duration to fulfill tasks (day1, will it be gone after 24h or not?)
- task title/score vs tool-tip ambiguity ("Defeat Solo-Armadas :: x/800")
- polishing of the GUI, e.g.
DayX-tab-bardoes not fit in nicely visually.
What i've liked:
- the compact view which i would like to see adapted for events in general
- lack of a short duration contraits to fulfill
- the whole event itself
I really liked the New Years Eve Celebration. I like the new format and the rewards were great! More like this please.
Yes. Mark the last milestone as "Heroic" and everything is fine.
Nevertheless, I still got a lot of stuff.
are many players short of final milestone on the new year celebrations event??
Note that the final two milestones are meant to be finished with the heroics, anyone that finished them without them is a fluke.. The disappointment from players about it has been raised.
Then the glitch should hit everyone ... but so be it.
I think the scoring problem in the tournament is more important, especially in the long term.
Can someone tell me why I should bother even doing an event other then to spend RSS on repairs if I am not going to score on the event. I cannot seem to get an answer from anyone at Scopely over if I will get this credited in anyway...
The 35s don't count. Have to hit 40+.
Like war room. 🤣
When Alliance Tournaments run, would it be possible to add some accompanying 5 day sms for players to complete 1 / 3 / 6 / 10 alliance tasks, so even casual players who do not read AC or Discords would know there is an AT event going on? The game does not really show on main or event screen that AT is currently running, and casual players do not really check Alliance tab every day, they only go to Events tab regularly. I do not even care what rewards are offered there - whatever you feel like people that play more casually might want, perhaps ultra recruit tokens so they get more officers to play with, or anything.. it would serve more to make people aware that something is going on and they might want to participate.
Thanks wish that was in the description of the event. Just became 40 in the last 2 weeks. So basically not until my NX is built will it matter.
NX is rubbish at Xindi outside token systems
ops43 here, what's the number to reach for repairs? at a little over 4.4b trit spent but still haven't finished yet..... It would be great if we could actully see the goal on screen. btw i'm on a 27" widescreen monitor, and there's plenty of room for it fit on screen.
also an explanation of where the seemingly random goal of spend 1,480,199,936 tritanium comes from? oddly specific....
thanks... good to know i was just a tiny bit from the end. sacrificed me voyager and was able to complete.
@full swan also currency is still available for purchase in the $ store so seems like the event store should still be open
Here we go again
Someone stole all the tasks
It's being looked at
Feedback for the future QoL update for current events make sure they work instead of adding more events and other content
S41. I have limited game time. Please fix
No events showing in league
S37 same
S74 same
Excellent implementation of tournaments again this time.
No tasks for anyone
My refreshes haven't worked
Tasks don't appear to be rotating properly when others do refreshes
Task banding needs implementing so that people aren't seeing tasks that are inappropriate for their ops levels...still not done
Tasks having issues with scoring
Tasks that have been started randomly vanishing as if they were never started.
Stella work...also what were you thinking on starting it on new years day after the farce that has been the NY events??
Oh I forgot to add NONE of the AT scoreboards are working properly
Alliances also split between two brackets 🤦♀️
No...they most definitely need to take heed of your complaints AND put the tasks back
What's happening with Alliance Tournament Tasks??…they're playing hooky from the game‼️
Hey still better than Arenas, so at least there's that.
Well mine got completely borked.
we are only on day 2 of 2025, and already we have had a fault per day 😂 start as you mean to continue
They haven’t said that all on their roadmap for 2025 is positive 🤣
Joke aside the AT performance is poor, switching from task to scoreboard or store the chance is 100% to get a freeze latest with the 2nd change of menu.
<@&509690795536941056> @full swan @near saddle please get the things fixed and resume when fixed or just let it be but this way it’s unplayable
🅱️rokely's still 🅱️roken while making u 🅱️roke‼️
Our alliance members see different rankings with different opponents
I have to restart the game (or purchase something from the store) every time I refresh tasks for the refreshes to appear, otherwise it just shows as a blank space. Same issue last time ATs were out, I don't think they bother to fix things that can be resolved with a workaround. Really poor IT practice but that is not shocking when talking about Scopely
I know bud but I did have several folks ping me on a CCs disc that the trend is happening for master and expert alliances on their servers so at least it holds up as having evidence to back it
true 🙂
Oh good grief…. Scopely has allowed bugs and glitches to become the norm instead of the rare exception. Instead of taking names and kicking butts, they have allowed a culture of sloppy to take over their development and programming groups. Very bad. Heads need to roll, both within the group, and the management over the group.
are you new here? This has been the way for 5 years 😂
Their behind the curve
Don't forget most alliances are split between two brackets
If I keep editing that post it will break like Scopely implemented it
Congratulations, was just two days needed to get the first Epic Fail in 2025 of Scopely 🤣🥳🥂
This is what, the 4th tournament, and you still haven't figured out how to make it work right?
❌ arenas paused indefinitely due to issues
❌ alliance tournament tasks not showing as the newest in a list of issues
❌ incursion back only to die due to constant lag, but pressed on as if nothing is wrong
❌ daily play constantly plagued by lag
❌ vague announcements from CMs on discord admitting awareness of issues, but no details on way forward for FIXES.
❌ constant underwhelming comp chests. We don’t want comp chests, we want content that WORKS!
no we want comp chests as well 😂 just better ones, and also for them to actually fix things
Been waiting 6 years for them to fix the game never going to happen
We want comp chest with emergency rotations. But first change October reward chip to January 😂😂 mistakes everywhere
I'm excited to find out what new things will be broken in 3 minutes. 😂
How about a comp chest like the event rewards? Pick your reward rather than a standard chest containing 5 cadet Scotty shards that you’ve had maxed for 5.5 years! 🤣
still a 💩 consolation, but at least let us choose as some consolation for the constant issues.
I was just going to complain about not seeing the other alliances in my bracket and realized the tasks aren't showing up.
Others in my alliance can't see the other alliances in our bracket either.
Scopely is aware, they made an annoucement
I agree with everything you said, but I want to add that I firmly believe arena was canceled until they can figure out how to stop players from just AFKing matches due to the absolutely awful pvp balance in matchmaking... wouldn't need to worry about participation vs afk if they made pvp fair and balanced.
Still wouldn't be worth showing up for.
I'm not seeing anything about the other alliances in the leaderboard not showing up.
There are so many bugs with this game, if it was a car the government would order a recall.
#stfc-the-most-broken-game #stfc-is-unaffordable. When you can't complete events because something in the game fails and keeps you from completing them, then it's time to move on to a better game that doesn't cost over one hundred dollars a pack just to get basic upgrades, materials and functional assets.
So are they offering the countdown Cannon again? No one can actually get the complete cannon
So let's see. This is what we know:
- Currently, no tasks are showing. Scopely is aware / announcement is made.
- Certain alliances have duplicate entries in the tournament, with a part of an alliance in bracket x and the other part in bracket y. This seems to be the same bug that has happened in tournaments before, which was then fixed as well and most - if not all - duplicate entries were removed, scores were merged and rankings were properly adjusted.
Conclusion: yes it doesn't work correctly now, but #1 is being looked at, #2 is most likely an existing bug with an existing solution to apply. Although it doesn't solve the issue right now, but it seems not something that cannot be solved.
What do 'we players' need to do? Just wait a bit, we can't do more than that 🙂
I just found out that somehow Scopley has my alliance in two different brackets! Scopley is so bad you don’t have to make stuff up!
Or we can complain and voice our concerns about the state of the game and how every single update is making it worse one way or another.
Tournaments threw us out in the middle of completion.
Tasks disappeared
What's up Scopley?
well ofc u can complain 🙂 but they are already aware, so what more can you do? In the end it's not just 1 issue and certainly not a '5 minute fix' in most cases 🙂 Things cost time to fix and repair. That's why we need to wait. I reckon we will get a form of compensation for it 🙂
@near saddle@full swan Will they raise th buy limit of 100 in the New Year's Celebration?
If it was truly "fixed" it would not be happening again. Scopely wants your money, that's it. They are not serious about solutions to "fix" the problems.
The form of comp will be 13 parsteel and coupon for a free side hug from a tree. And yeah we cant do more than wait for this nonsense but ima complain continuously until im either muted or they get so sick of me and 2/3 the player base doing it that they will actually try to make a working game.
Scopely genuinely makes ubisoft look outstanding and perfect. Thats really bad
your post would make sense if this was a one off, but it is literally every single thing they do. EVERYTHING scopely touches collapses, it's actually fascinating. I didn't realise it was possible for any one organisation to be this incompetent until I played this game. They need to be consistently reminded how ridiculous it is, because even after 5 years of the same it still doesn't seem to have sunk in to their heads that it's unacceptable, so daily reminders of how frustrating they are as a games developer is all we can do.
well to be fair, its already the 5th or 6th year in general for the game. does the rest of the game looks like they figured out how to make it work?
For as much as they charge for things in this game it should be running flawlessly.
I think for every 3rd major event error in a month, we should get a free unlock of Wesley, to speed up everyone maxing the best officer in the game
i am certain this is inherent to the size and structure of any organisation with similar size, though i agree fully it's not acceptable. I'm still a player with exactly the same issues 😉
Engage event is not working it's showing 1 day left to complete and nothing is scoring, some alliance members don't even have it showing now. Along with the tournament tasks not working it's getting a joke to to play this game.
either they're paying you, or you're trying to get them to pay you. There are game devs MILES bigger than Scopely that create games with far less bugs, much richer content, and with less p2w. There is no excuse for how poor this game is. We're way beyond glass half full with this game, we're way beyond patience. If they actually took the time to fix old bugs, they'd probably find that there were also a lot less going forward. As always though, the focus is on churning out new, unimaginative content, rather than fixing the ENDEMIC issues in the game. Anger is all I have left towards Scopely, they have long since worn out my patience.
Then stop making excuses for it. It is not the norm for any other company I deal with. Some of the problems are organizational, others are simply lack of thought and failure to learn from or correct past failures and utterly ignoring the fact that compensation for broken or removed content should provide the maximum available progress the content allows plus compensation for the content being unavailable. Nothing has worked completely right in the last month. Half the time they have to correct the battlepass points content because someone somewhere can't make it add up right.
just call tourneys now, comp every one 60k store currency plus ranking awards and adjust ranks (based on current event ranks) and lets add another fail tally for 2025.....hasnt been fived in 4 runs isnt gonna be fixed in a few hours
just leave ranks the way they were at the start though, unfair to move up or down based on incomplete event
um, i've worked in MUCH MUCH larger organizations than scopely. no, this level of customer facing screws ups and yet lack of rectification is....just unheard of
It was not my attempt to 'excuse' for the things that are happening though, my apologies if you felt my comment was 'in defense' of Scopely. I actually have had experienced many companies with equal issues, just not only gaming companies, but all kinds of software companies have similar issues. One thing that was similar on all of them, the larger the company, the longer the implementation times.
I literally work in a much larger organisation than Scopely at this moment, and I can tell you if there were this many issues this frequently, the company would collapse. Scopely only survive because they push packs constantly, and rely on the psychology of FOMO to sell them.
i've played....hundreds, several hundreds of games. i can't remember one EVER that was this buggy. i mean, this is a company that twice in a row in one month, couldn't even ADD THE SCORES PROPERLY to complete their own milestones. that just screams wild incompetence.
but honestly, at this point i blame the money paying playerbase more than scopely. if at this point you continue to reward them for this, then well...you can't blame them for continuing the same track etierh
New years events are glitched too. Trying to see what I have left and get stuck in the loading screen 🙄 new year old carppy programming 🤪 😂
So tournament and boldly go are broken
NY Event is broken too
Boldly go is being looked into
@full swan Could we please get an upgrade the NSEA protector event? Or add the Beryllium Spheres into the current Ship Expansion event that is running. Seems like it should already score in that event as the Vindicator is in there. Thanks
Do you really need that useless officer?
Can we just get an update that lists out the elements of the game that are working properly? Guessing it's a shorter list...
The store definitely works 😉
That's it. It is the fault of the people who still buy every thing that's released. No Mather what. Don't blame the company... Blame the enablers
it's more just about having a reason to upgrade some stuff for me
at this point alliance tourny is kinda cooked
Upgrading ship itself worth more. With delaying a tier up of a special ship (even with one day) you lose way more than you could win on any slb.
Where are the tasks of this event?
To be fair, one fault a day would be an improvement on 2024.
Where quality over quantity is... Oh that was last year's motto. So in short it is bugged.
They better not cancel it and dish out out a completely insulting comp chest… 3 more days of 3 events = 9 opportunities to earn 7k (amount per 10k task) store currency = 63k store currency. Unless they are going to give us this, fix it or compensate us for this amount.
Never found it in 2024.
this is what S95 gets to compete in tournament anyway someone from scopley can address this before its over
NY event has also died for me and a couple of others. Just sits saying preparing on a black screen.
Yeah don't search in any other year too
and yes 60k is fair..i can max each day for about 10k (4days left so 40k) plus 20k for the broken feature then the rank ups/rewards
It is not fair. Main purpose of the tournament is to advance in the emerald chain, isnt it?
thus i stated rank up rewards as well (which includes emerald chain points)
Agreed - about 60k event store current and the appropriate emerald chain rewards is about right. 👍
Scopley's gift to players
Also want to make sure we're not forgetting the insane daily event spending requirements with all these event issues and lag issues we have too...
Ops 52, I need to spend 12700 G5 Uncommon ship parts to complete this event? Note that current refinery for Ops 52 doesn't even award uncommons...
Anyone know where the new year event went to? 2 hours ago there was 1 day on the timer.
New years event is still in the boldly go tab, but game crashes when I click it. Plus Alliance event bugged and this is like day 14 in a row of El-Aurian events.... even by scopelys extremely low standards this is sad.
The store WILL NEVER NOT WORK. I think they have people checking that the store is alway working probably 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week. Help us all if something should happen to the store. JUST NOT THE STORE 😲
Sorry i read back and they are working on the new year event 🥲
Tasks are up in tournament
Nope. It's not
Sad that the Boldy Go Event cannot be completed with out doing all the events (including the Borg Polygon armadas) when there isn’t really any free sourcing for the directives
I was able to complete all the milestones:
You have done the first Borg Polygon
tourneys are back up scoring is still not working or lagging badly
Alliance tournament task "Uncommon Commander" needs to be clarified. It simply states "Acquire 1500 Uncommon Commander Skill Points" which I did by acquiring 1500 Kirk Skill Points - however, apparently what this SHOULD say is "Buy a 99 dollar pack containing 1500 uncommon UNCONVERTED commander skill points."
My second grader has a better grasp of communicating basic ideas via text.
Anyone else having a problem with the Boldly go event not loading?
Yes. I don't have the icon to see the milestones anymore so I don't know what to do to get more points
Thanks scopely the tasks showed up, did 2 and the points haven't shown up on the leaderboard, however it's showing I've done 2 more and spend a ton of rare FC credits
what happened to engage event?
It is possible. I finished it without the polygon armada
Laff-a-lympics tasks are holding, giving credit, etc.
okay tasks are back but no points being scored w t f
If you got the good payout fix from scopely. Not all did
what ops?
If our 20th has scored 30k points and everyone above should have scored more, we should have atleast 600k points, right?
Alliance tasks are still broken : I thought I had started 10K points for Borg epic directives, double pulled my Borg rare chests but - nope! - didn't start! And I can't do that task for 3 days now
So it just stopped loading again for me?
I started a task to kill Feds. Was supposed to give me 5000 points. It was scoring, I was watching the ticker. Then it just disappeared!
Very frustrating 😕
53 at time of comp and I am 100 points short and only the polygon tasks left
Seriously why are we still having issues with the tournaments? I now we weren't happy with the tasks and those have been tweeked, but the core engine of it should be the highest prority
remove the refresh from the tournament store, going to click on something and the refresh changes the click to something useless
I started a tournament , almost done and it got wiped ! What are y'all doing !
I see no reason the store should refresh at all. Its somehow linked to the task refresh, which makes zero sense. It's purely inept game design.
Jut got a comp chest for boldly Go event
We've got tournament events not scoring, disappearing halfway through being done but still counting as "attempts".
Everyone is mad. This is ridiculous, it needs pulling now
If any of y'all are doing tasks before an announcement from scopely comes out saying they are working, then you're cray-cray or like talking with the tribbleshooter.
when did you do this screenshot?
Hi <@&509690795536941056> @near saddle @full swan please cancel the run for AT. It’s totally broken and you already took 4 of 7 most active hours to complete tasks.
It’s simply broken and you won’t fix it within a couple of minutes.
Keep each ally in current league and compensate with 30 AT credits and 10k store credits.
Attached how it looks like if you want to claim a task
10k store credits is completely unacceptable for top alliances
I am running a sentry task in Alliance Tournament and I'm not showing any score for the sentries I've demolished in 91ELT-97
Yup, boldy go is not showing. had planned to finnish off the ploy tasks tonight too 😒
right before posting it. Today.
so compensation chest is out for NY event....... considerably less that I was about to get for finishing the event........
New year…same ol’ $copely. Alliance tournaments are completely broken.
The tournament is now even more broken 🙄
@full swan that comp is nowhere good enough for ending the new years event early. It’s less than half what I was still going to get, and I’m sure it’s even worse for others (I’m lucky I finished most tasks yesterday). It NEEDS to be better.
Seriously @full swan . I was just about to complete my borg polygon armadas after scrapping a group together, and then you just end the event prematurely?
Why, why do you keep pulling fast one‘s on the community? 1600 is not enough to compensate for the 3200 I was just about to unlock!
@full swan We had planned on doing the new borg armadas today, so the ones who were punished with having to do all of the events to finish, could finish. The tiny 1600 and an early end is just another unfair punished for your bugs
I was set to complete the New Year event, but didn’t make time for it today because I had another day. Does the 1600 bonus currency make up for what I missed? No @full swan it doesn’t.
I planned to finish my event today and last minute you said it ends early ?? @full swan
<@&509690795536941056> How about this? Stop rolling out new stuff and FIX THE LAG. I suspect it's the root cause of most of the issues.
@full swan that 1600 comp doesnt even cover what I’m missing from pulling the last milestone, which I finished
You might wanna push for a review of that chest @full swan for the NY event. If people are still finishing events they will be losing out a lot.
Also... tournaments are trash. Mine is so broken.
- my refreshes won't work
- I can't see other people's refreshes until I try to start a task...which had then been claimed by someone else
The there's the other issues of tasks not tracking properly, tasks vanishing, alliances showing in multiple brackets and score tracking on alliance level also not working
Absolutely pathetic that the "comp" for ending an event early doesnt cover the missing final milestone.
You have to restart the game every refresh. It's annoying, but works
<@&509690795536941056> can you also fix the tournament leaderboards. They are still completely wrong. I have screenshots showing how wrong the math is, but I can't post them both. More than happy to DM them if you like.
Not for me it doesn't. Literally trying to start tasks is the only thing forcing the refresh again. Or swapping devices every couple of minutes. But then have the same issue when staying on the same device
!!! 1600 snow gloves is NOT adequate compensation for unceremoniously ending an event a full day early. The event broadcast the time remaining throughout its duration, and players had every right to rely on the countdown to budget time to complete tasks. I was working through solo armadas and pvp events and would have obtained not only the final milestone, but roughly half that again in task rewards. This is abhorrent. The compensation should be no less than 7,500 globes, or reopen the event for its advertised duration!
@full swan So the tasks are back are they?
What do you expect….they don’t care much about proper compensation which is just a digital item.
The arena “compensation” was already an offence and by no means even equalising the loss of that broken content. Despite all we are still due a real compensation for the messed iterations in tall the weeks
Well I was going to finish the armada events during Apex today... Guess not. Thanks?
Tasks are back but I lost my 10 uncommon Borg solo armada task just now
Probably not worth doing anything tonight. Hopefully tomorrow is fixed
Here’s an idea, don’t screw your player base out of events by just ending them a whole day early and then give them a garbage comp chest. Every day it gets harder and harder to want to play this game when Scopely doesn’t care about us at all just the $$$
I was literally one Borg polygon away from finishing everything and getting the last milestone.
Yeaaaah completely fixed the AT tasks not showing up right?...... (EU401)
You cancelled the NY event right after I spent materials to finish all the milestones and was unable to claim them. Your compensation does not balance this at all. You make me question why I spend time and money here.
My guess is the NY event was causing issues with tournaments somehow and that's why they killed it. Transparency would be nice though...
my Alliance's score is in two different brackets split 33% 66%
I would settle for consistency.
Uh.. wasn't there one more day for the new years events?
there was, they ended it a day early and sent out a 1600 currency chest
How's this for consistency: This is the same mechanic as the "New new player experience" which they tried turning on and had to turn off because everything exploded.
it's gone for some people but still there for others
More server merge is coming. What a bold move to start 2025. This screwed up will cost them 30% player base
it's not fix at all in 105
This game has just turned into rolling compensation gifts.
Nobody wants the Galactic recruit 10k task (amongst others), so stop making pop up ever 10 secs. Better yet, take it down completely.
Why would you base daily start time for NY event on first day login (giving players less time to complete everything if they logged in late first day)?
Then compound that awful decision by ending an entire day early without notice so people couldn't finish the remaining tasks?
We still don't see the tasks. What we do see is that our alliance has dropped 6 places, so other alliances can do tasks while we don't.
<@&509690795536941056> My alliances scores are still split between two clones in two different brackets.
On top of that the 'fix' doesn't seem to be for everyone. Still no tasks visible for any of my members but dropping ranks now.
And no...relogg didn't help
Please give us some kind of transparent about alliance tournaments store. How many shards do i miss to unlock something? What research can each of the prime particles do?
Do you know how frustrating it is to look up this stuff by scrolling through hundreds of inventory slots or research?
Same here, server 400 and no tasks showing for any alliances
Worse than that. For a couple months, we have been getting "compensations" that don't come close to paying for what we lose
Don't think I've ever gotten a comp that equates to the losses incurred
Wait a minute! So Scopley are saying they're pulling the NY Event a day early and sent us 1,600 tokens as compo - But I can finish the whole event before the deadline tomorrow and get 3,200 tokens!!
You're delusional if you think ending a mediocre event early will cost 30% of players lol
Don't be to hard on them, it's totally in line with normal Scopley math..you know how 2+2= 0.001 bonus
I thought it was 2 + 2 = {0} retrieving...
@full swan I’ve never complained so far - but ending an event 24 hours earlier than planned is extremely disappointing for those players that weren’t able to finish the event. I wasn’t able to claim the last three! chests - adding the reward for the missions makes a loss of 7000-10000 tokens in the NY event.
Not 1600!!!
But the thing that makes me really angry is that you are running a celebration event - but instead making players happy you are frustrating players again. I think ending the event was the easiest way to solve another bug. But the fair way would have been to solve your bugs, send out a compensation and reopen the event one or two days later to let all players finish their tasks.
lol…math is hard
Tryed with domino had 3 ships no effect trying now 1 ship
For the task with the conduit, it needs to be on the largest ship or the only ship in the armada.
This 👆
so what about the people who didn't claim any milestones?
The New Year's event was closed too soon.
it had like 20 hours or something left, totally ridiculous
@full swan we might not be complaining quite as much if there was an explanation as to why the New Year Event was ended early
Do I have restart the game evrytime I re roll tasks now..?
no your points are just in two different brackets
Ending the Boldy Go event early is an egregious violation of player trust and confidence in that event structure. While I thought it was a good addition from a game mechanic perspective, ending it early killed it for me.
Another bugged tournament activity even after it was fixed. Thanks Scopely
https://stfc.wtf/tournaments if you wonder where your points went
8/20 Alliance Tournament tasks are spend exborg credits. Come on scopely, why are you struggling to give us fun and engaging tasks so much? The mix is really poor, and the good tasks come around so rarely, the balance is very wrong.
Lol my only complaint about the NYE events were the epic amounts of loot obtained with ease now make the treasury which we have to bust our asses for look like a joke
Yes, re-rolls are still broken, tasks still disappear and many are still not scoring. It’s a scopley feature, of course it doesn’t work! 🤷🏻♂️
I had a set of 3 x G6 material acquisitions, 2 metaphasic spend and two sec31 spend ones at one point all on the same page
Shutting down the Boldly Go events early was crap. I had, per the timer shown, planned out the events that couldn't be completed in one day so I could complete them. So much for planning. I have rare away teams that would finish before the original (and one would think "official" timer) ended. I guess all the warping around broke the space time continuum because that timer meant nothing. I hope 1600 tokens is more than the rewards I'm losing out on but I'm not sure. I'm going to miss the final milestone and the "complete 15 away teams" and the "complete 10 rare away teams" milestones. Good job Scopely. Test your mess before you put it in production.
I can see turning off an event if it breaks the whole game. This didn't from the player perspective. It ran for 6 days and the game functioned. Why just turn it off a day early?
I was going to complete every task in the boldly go event in the next 12 hours, which should have been fine, if they hadn’t cancelled it
Stopping the Boldy Go Event was a poor move, in my opinion. I had something to work toward, and the rewards were very useful in getting the 5star rss I needed without spending a dime.
Thats probably why the stopped it lol. Noone needed to spend a dime 😅
The comp chest is great, but it's not going to include the 100 ish hours of away team speedups that i spent to get to the point where I could complete it. It's not going to replace the repair cost of killing ships pointlessly so I could do work towards that goal. What is 1600 credits going to get me? 6 chest pulls that give decent mats and at best 6 officer shards? Keep the 1600 creds. Give me my away teams speedups back.
I won't even stress over the rss spent toward the repair goals. I can raid those back. The point is that the players put planning and valuable resources toward this for Scopely to just pull the plug and make all of that null and void. 👍 👍 Two thumbs up because I can't give you two of the finger that I want to right now.
You can.......................they would just mute or kick you for it lol
Wouldn't be the first and probably not the last time I ended up in the penalty box with them over something similar.
They'll mute you for words that aren't even bad words, so I agree.
<@&509690795536941056> Have we gotten an answer/response to this?
And that participation shows that scopely are still not managing to make accessible free to play tasks available <@&509690795536941056>
they are actively making them harder to roll, making the accessible is clearly not the goal
No, and we won't. They don't have an answer, so they'll just throw the 1600 globes to us like pennies to street urchins then start planning the next overpriced, undervalued $99 packs to throw in the store.
Sorry I'm not sorry, but 1600 tokens roughly covers the expenditure of my away teams speedups. It does nothing to compensate for the lost rewards. Double the comp chest to 3200 tokens and then maybe we can talk. But that should be the minimum acceptable amount for compensation. Repay our cost and then give us something of decent value on top of that.
Wow. They did listen.
That might cover arenas, but they still need to address pulling down the NY Boldly Go event a full day early... which has all kinds of implications. The proposed 1600 globes remains WHOLLY unacceptable, since we were already getting that to address EARLIER problems with the event.
Agreed. Bring back Boldy Go!
I should clarify.. the original question was about the December Event Store (used Holiday Event Tokens) that finished yesterday, rather than the New Year's Event..
Ending a week long event a day early with no notice is complete garbage. What a horrendous decision Scopely.
Sorry... so many things are broken at once it's hard to keep track
Um, I was planning on finishing the last milestone for another 3200 points in New Years Celebration. Others were potentially screwed out of more than that!
Anyone else unable to claim the alliance tournament comp after claiming the new years comp? Mine seemed to have disappeared, not field rations, no AT credits.
My bad. I didn't realize that we had two chests coming. Here I was thinking that there was only one issue that we were to be compensated for.
When everyone gets the comp, people who were gonna pull their milestones today still get the short stick
I got those "snow globes" but then they were not showing when I went to the store ? what gives ? it was actually tournament tokens... i thought I saw the silly snowglobes... my bad!
go into a specific tab and youll see em
I was almost done, and now I'm getting the same reward as the people that didn't even try, this doesn't compensate the resources I've already spent
The compensation chest isn't compensation if it doesn't replace the time, effort, and directives (and resources, etc) that people spent to push to the end. I didn't scroll back too far. Was there a rationale for why the event was pulled early?
Nope
But what about for those that didn't collect the milestones, waiting til today....we got hosed all around
This is just a trash way for them to slack off and avoid spending anymore time on it. “We gave comps so don’t bother submitting a ticket for missing rewards.”
Other events this month had problems or seemed largely impossible. With effort and coordination it looked like many of us, even the doubtful, were actually going to be able to finish this particular one. It really erodes trust in the player base to do something like this for a high profile event. Especially the first time you try it out. Why not let it run its course?
If you had completed milestones but didn't claim the rewards, you should probably file a CS ticket
Oh I will, but I can already tell you what the reply will be....... They will pass it off that I'm getting compensation because of what they are sending out. Like that will make up for it
Soooo just forget the Boldly go event?
When is the second (3600 snowglobes) comp chest coming? I don't see it yet...
It gave you alliance tournament credits instead.
The Boldly Go event has Badly Gone 😄
A timer is displayed in your gifts area... when the next apology will be activated. 24 hours after you have picked up the first package, the next one will arrive. And there are 1600
I've lost probably close to 30k NYE currency due to the event being pulled early. I hadn't claimed any of my top chests. And had planned to clean everything up today. Now I've lost tons, which the comp does nothing for! Very disappointed and upset. This isn't acceptable. <@&509690795536941056>
Can we get a refresh on the new years event store. I have snow globes to spend I would like to get the countdown cannon that I only need 25 more shards for and now that box is gone.
Ahhh, got it. Well, hopefully it will be there tomorrow afternoon then.
What the heck, you guys pulled it early? I didn’t spend any of it at all! I like to wait till the last day for any events. That’s hugely not cool
1600 x 3 days. So the day after tomorrow there will be another 1600.
Got it, thanks!
Will there be a reset again on the chests (i.e., able to claim another 100 research/gas chests) or was this the last one?
🤷🏻♂️
<@&509690795536941056> love that rerolls are just removing tasks
Already got an automated response from them for my ticket, “We have ended the New Year's Celebration Event a day early. We apologize for the sudden change with the schedule and to make up for this, we will be sending out an additional 1,600 New Year Snow Globes to bring the last day of celebration back to your stations.” Scopely: we gave you a comp so now shut up and go away.
I know some have managed to get unclaimed BP milestones in the past, but I usually have better luck with the email than the bot.
Getting rid of the event the way they did was very very bad. Just hoping you get to claim that stuff
Sounds about right 🤣
(Srsly tho thanks for your help!)
Is so hard to show how much we have to spend?
Has the issue of inaccurate points being awarded for tournament tasks been resolved?
Additional event store currency is still an inadequate response. For a game that likes to push competition between players, the fact is that some players are ahead by thousands of currency due to Scopelys error. Giving all players additional currency does not solve this problem.
Anyone else notice that Scopely removed all the easier higher scoring tournament events like anything for the Monaveen?
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> When will it be adressed that Alliances are still split up between 2 brackets? This is costing us a 1st place right now!
So far, you have not even acknowledged this problem.
Same here. I did some events but didn’t claim. I was waiting to complete remaining ones...
Lol, players don’t have any trust left, we always expect screw up 🤣
And apparently we should all now play as if the timers on events are a day at least shorter than they appear....
Well from the tasks I have completed I am still short points which affects the overall standing of my alliance. Not cool Scopely. 🤬
They have acknowledged it, they've said they're working on it. I'm just baffled as to how they've managed to break it in the first place
<@&509690795536941056> What Scopely needs to understand is that while an appropriate level of compensation for the Boldly Go event ending early may mean that players who were planning to complete it today aren't losing out compared to what they would have gotten, they're losing out compared to those who were able to spend the time to finish it sooner, who got all the regular rewards and the compensation. If there was a sensible reason (and I assume there was) for finishing it early, then tell us what that reason was (doesn't have to be more specific than "it was causing excessive lag" or "it interfered with feature X") and I guarantee you'll have less complaints.
Seriously, it's communication 101
Nope. They acknowledged wrong scoring from tasks for players. Not that the alliance is split between 2 Leaderboards.
scamming chance of pulls, needs to be removed, when you get far too many minimum pulls of 5 unc ex-borg credits, definite cheating on scopelys part, indulging on gambling that never works, and no doubt , its only the big massive cash payers that get the max pull rewards every time because it would not do to have them moan about mimimum pulls and end up pulling their cash from the game
@everyone Its been like this all day. Can't collect points for 2nd task, can't start a 3rd.
I have no meta Q sms, only easy and modest Q challenge. Is that correct ? ops 18
I believe so.
<@&509690795536941056> can we have an update on this please?
@full swan Alliance tournament leaderboard doesn't work! We have twice the points what the leaderboard shows...
How can an Alliance have 32m points on the second day?
Because of the incredible coding from scopely 😂
So you want them on your payroll department? 🙃
How have we gone from 8th to 21st in minutes, suddenly in a different group from the one we were in and how are alliances posting such huge scores?
What just happened to the scores?????
Seems any alliance with a score over a certain level, who were behind us, have had their score multiplied by 10 now.
the squeeze on the tournament points is literally driving ppl away from participation.
10 wave defence for 750, and 10 mirror wave defence for 750? you sure you got that right? cause its not.
definitely feels less point rewarding than previous events. and just because you have not announced any changes doesnt mean that there were no changes. we all know how liberal with information you are scopely ... though im sure your defenders will be out in force to prove me wrong. so be it.
same we went from 4th to 16th
we are day 2 max each person could have contributed is 60k x that by the amount of players they have dosnt even come close to those numbers
I think they will need to scrap this AT, everyone should be rewarded based on their league. But there is no way they can do promotion and relegation as no one is able to see where they actually are in the table… some are spending more resources than they have to and some are not doing enough but genuinely have no clue where they are. Where is the cut off, what position are we actually in… no one knows!
I absolutely LOATHE the alliance tournaments. It's filled with impossible tasks and nearly nobody in my alliance can and wants to do them.
Gather 225000 syndicate points, Kill Gorn, Kill sentries.
In my alliance there are only two who can barely kill Gorn, I'm the only one who can kill sentries.
How are these tasks even determined? What are the criteria?
It's not giving me any points.
From what I see, no, the specifications they give are also very good. If I had known, I wouldn't have taken it.
@full swan @near saddle honestly think that with the various issues this time around in tournaments it would be an idea to forgo any relegations this time around. None of the scoring is accurate and many alliances are showing in multiple brackets and in some cases multiple times within those brackets with different scores.
ALLIANCE TOURNAMENTS DO NOT WORK!
Time to comp out a PROPER amount of compensation and cancel this run of tournaments. I am sure scopely can find another way of grabbing money without upsetting all their players at once
2025 has been a total farce so far due to alliance tournaments off the back of the NY events which due to bad comms, bad planning, bad implementation and the odd choice to finish it early were also a farce. Oh and incursions... lag fest. bore fest.
Be brave scopely, listen to your players and do the right thing and start 2025 as you mean to go on and not with this epic failure.
Did your group change as well? We also seemed to move group as well as position
That's likely because your alliance is split between two brackets and you're seeing the separate boards.
<@&509690795536941056> this is really messed up. My alliance should be second among all servers.
you know whats messed up? you guy's having an average of 775k points per player when the max amount each player whould be able to have is 60k lol, luckily they're looking into it cause my alliance sure as ... doesnt have that kind of inflation
Alliance tournament "refreshes" should mean "randomize" which is clearly NOT what is does. I've used 36k refreshes, and I've got a total of 1 "new" task. I refresh gain 17k multiphasic (P2P), it turns into gain syndicate XP (P2P). I refresh it again? Straight back to gain multiphasic. Over and over. If I refresh more than one at once? All of them disappear, all but one reappear. Again that one is always P2P, and if I refresh it, guess what? It turns into what it originally was! There's no amount of refreshes that will get me any genuinely new task. No amount of clearing the cache, reboots, nothing. It's abundantly clear that it is not a random number generator in any sense, and that it's specifically set up to screw over free to play players and light spenders.
You just have bad RNG then. Refreshes just fine on my end. Some are weighted heavier than others, but it's not a back and forth
no we stayed the same
My alliance moved up 20 rankings. There's no way the displayed totals are correct in the leaderboards, but the ranking spot makes sense based on similar engagement we had last time it ran
alliance tournament scores in the 40 million plus range?? whatever "fix" you applied didn't use earth math
Shouldn’t have to restart every time to see rerolled tasks
They shouldn't be weighted at all especially not with the weighting towards completely impossible for anyone who doesn't want to drop 100$+ more players would participate if things were difficult but achieveable for them, I can understand why so many don't want to interact at all when you can hour after hour see that there's not a single task available for you because scopley cares more about squeezing players dry than making a game they might actually want to spend on. But they can get so much more from 1 whale who spends 50k a year than 490 players spending 100$, so why care about them?
The 10k tasks w/ the reroll tokens and store currency are absolutely intended to be spender tasks. That much was clear from Day One. The 10k tasks with no currency & rerolls are where the F2P ends. Some of the spender tasks can be done free if you plan for them, but that's the only way a "player who doesn't want to drop $100" can complete them. It's Scopely, after all. (PS Doesn't mean I like it, but it's good to have a clear view of what they intend there)
That's what I meant by difficult but achievable. Light spenders and f2p players can do probably half or more of the 10k tasks, with planning around tournaments, if they actually show up at all. The problem is that they simply don't, because the p2p ones are weighted so unbelievably heavily, and things only truly refresh when claimed.
So it is possible if you plan ahead. I see no problem here. And still nobody believes me that 15/15 10k tasks can be done easily f2p.
Right. I took your meaning. I'm just saying that Scopely doesn't want that, which is why those tasks have such a low RNG chance. I suspect they think having them low at least drives sales of reroll tokens. @neon terrace The problem is that those tasks have a low chance to show up. I do wish F2P could get more of those tasks, but it is what it is. The larger problem is just Scopely monetization scheme. Of course, we all know that part's not gonna change :/
#⭐-official-announcements message @near saddle Sorry to say mate, but the scores being seen on some leaderboards are literally impossible, regardless of what bracket you were in (which as far as I'm aware, shouldn't have any bearing on task scores anyway). No Alliance should have more than 6m points at this point, so every alliance (including mine) with scores significantly in excess of that is still bugged in some fashion
Even 6M is far fetched as that would require 100 people each with perfect 60K-score.
@near saddle the new scores aren't accurate at all. LB is showing my alliance (UNSC on Server 28) as 11,096,500. I tallied up the scores manually and came out to 1,568,500. Now there's a 2.5M gap between us and the next highest position. Not sure how we're supposed to have a shot at that.
That's not how the first alliance tournament went, and it's getting worse every time, so clearly they are choosing some metric to decide how to screw over their players in a new way for the next run. As they do very, very, very, very, very rarely care about what players think when they complain on discord, there's no saying that they won't eventually reach the point where they realize they've gone too far. I would be lucky to get even half the points I got the first tournament, even with a better idea of the tasks and far more saving.
How have the scores been edited to reflect what are score should have been. We have millions of points gap - that’s not remotely achievable and we have we been moved group mid way. This leaves a huge feeling of a disappointment and lack of willingness to play as the scores visually are insane
@near saddle
We're an alliance of 103 people ... of that, 84 scored so far (11 of which have a perfect score) and we should have a total score of 2.271.200 (if the individual score is to be believed).
The Leaderboard shows us at 22.908.200. First place on our bracket (IF it is the correct one now) has 33.151.400 with 90 players (and a lot less OPS60+).
What exactly did that patch do? Cause it seems to have done nothing at all.
Which just further proves my point that scopely doesn't want those tasks being easy to get for F2P. As for "going too far," if they haven't realized it by now, they won't. They're not looking at our feedback, they're looking at revenue, and apparently that's enough to keep them moving in this direction. By the time that crashes, it'll be far too late to change course
Re: tha announcement about AT scoring and mergers. I don't think "exactly" means what you think it does.
I don't really want to go into details, because I don't want them to change anything which is good for a f2p. But 10k tasks give a lot of rerolls too. If you interested in details pm me.
Tournaments fixed has given way too many points to affected alliances. Like 25x too many. Which means our alliance is way lower than it should be because we were never affected.
I do think that's absolutely valid, but also this is the "complain about the events" channel (since they don't make the game good enough to give positive feedback) so I'm absolutely going to do that even if it likely futile lol.
I only ever do 10k tasks. Haven't finished any tournament lower than 100% points+rerolls+currency
The new scoring looks more like the total collected then the current score.
Also changing what bracket you are in is unfair to begin with.
In the old 2 brackets we would have been top 3 now suddenly we dropped.
You say you’ve fixed the problem then where is my 10k points still missing ?
And you do it f2p?
Not until this tourney. I only hit on the ExB Unc trick this run, but the NYE store also makes it easy since I'm G6. I usually have to spend abt $200 to get everything. This one I just finally figured out how to alter my hoarding
Way to mess up the Alliance leaderboard even more scoply. Points way off where they should be and now no chance. This going to make a lot of people upset especiallyones i know who spent to try and advance to next league <@&509690795536941056>
there are plenty 10k free to play options. You only need to hoard some stuff and be 40+.
Check the Alliance Management Services & Tournaments excel you can get at rev pirate bay discord
I did 2 tasks since refresh. first a 5k task then a 10k but can't start the third one... is it because of the 10k task because I did buy it in store?
@untold zephyr Yeah that is what I'm talking about, that 15/15 tasks can be done easily f2p with planning. But none believes me 😂
<@&509690795536941056>
these points can **never **be right. the whole scoring system can never be right.
whatever your “fix” was supposed to do - it has at least mixed things up!
even if ALL 40 players of the alliance listed here at #1 had scored the maximum number of points from all possible tasks so far, this result would be mathematically impossible!
I came in at over 120k total for last AT without spending anything on the event (only buy battle passes). I'm at 60k so far, and know I've got at least another 4 10k tasks available to me without spending, so I'm targetting 140k minimum.
I guess I am confused we are a new server and I woke up this morning up against g6 servers now. We went from 1st to 8th? Is this intended and we are just screwed now?
No, not the ones that give points+currency+rerolls. At least not efficiently. 225k SyndXp, 150k rods, however-many-k temp arti tokens, etc. Of the top-tier tasks, only 3-4 (5?) are done with resonable hoarding/timing if you're not G6 (EDIT: by "reasonable" i mean not seriously damaging your progression. You can facepalm all you want, but I'll be happy for you to lay out how F2P (esp under 45) completes 225k SyndXP free). PS probably easier to move the discussions of details to the non-throttled #🏆-event-chat
you wanna see something funny useful, somehow F is on the 104 master lb twice lol
for a few people - the f2p 10k tasks do not spawn reliably enough for a full alliance to do them
this stems from the legacy of the first tournament, during which the brackets were adjusted. we have been dragging on since then
I think it's worth clarifying that you mean you can complete 15 of the top-tier 10k tasks F2P, not that "all of the available' tasks can be completed easily. That's how I initially took your comment. I agree that you can reroll into 15x 10k tasks for free for many. Lots won't be able to, but a G6 should.
Upgrading CC50+ (mid chance), Unc ExB (high chance), Dom & Borg solo directives (LOW chance) should be doable by most. I feel like there was a 5th that’s not G6-specific
Lol the alliance leaderboard has an alliance with 15 million points, that's like everyone scoring 90k points each day. This is definitely getting better and better. Hey at least we can now see a scoreboard, that's kind of a win. Just pull it down, I realize it makes money but come on now, this is just getting silly.
The new daily events and Ahead of the Curve are just a frustrating money grab, there's no real resource management game there, just buy stuff to participate. Not even fun to spend money on it, just mindless wallet grind. Checked out of those events.
Imho, the ‘functioning’ of the tournaments event is almost offensive to the whole community. Giving us again previously notoriously bugged and unfixed mechanism, and making it even worse after a socalled ‘fix’
Apparently scopely doesnt mind a bit about it.
They get more and more dispicable
It's entirely possible to complete enough SMS events to complete the meta without spending $$$. The SLBs on the other hand...
We were in first. Now we're in third, and our individual scores only add up to 2,157,500 points. Where is the other 20million+ points coming from? Who tested this 'fix'?
Just cancel the Alliance tournament as everyone has lost faith in you actually making it work and even if you got it working no one will believe the position they are in. You’re loosing any remaining credibility you have by dragging it out further.
I disagree, it was for the first interation but you don't have an ongoing endless suply of resources/ships to upgrade/buildings/researches ... so it's practically impossible to complete even the sms on every iteration
Scopely and testing? Where have you been the last 6 years?
But you don't need to complete every one. The "weekly" SMS and 1 of the 3 "daily" SMS events every day gives enough points that you'd only be 400 short on the meta. that's easy to do with mining & hostile hunt. Then you only need 1 SMS/week to make up the difference. I don't do the ship/building upgrades ones except at weekends when they coincide with the mat spend recruit events, for example.
Whole alliance tournament run is a joke - you've fixed the score eh ? Just pull the event and save some face, it's the only way you can as there's not a single player that believes this complete trash 😂
you mess up day 2, you cut it short due to your incompetence, and you still give an over abundance of fkr armadas with zero store credit, don't give an equal amount of tasks that medium to reasonably high players could do , you say you listen, yet you still come back with ideas that only you like, not the player base, you still give an over amount of g6 tasks that have already been done by g6 players, but they still come round and round and round, if they were not done, they would not be getting refreshed, and far too many tasks that require cash payments to complete, it's about time you actually listened to the majority player base, not just the massive cash players, put tasks with store credit that normal players can easily achieve
We desperately need a fix to rerolling tasks. It's insanely tedious to reroll and task and then have to restart the game.
Didn't get 3 tasks done cause you cut yesterday short. Where's the comp for that.
Seriously how are we supposed to close points gaps like those. We have been seriously screwed and apparently you fixed the points? WTF. Just to get out of relegation is almost impossible let alone trying to progress
How? I hoard for these events, I do the BP. I pull off the 4-8k ones using hoarded materials (ex-borg credits, rare/epic armadas, etc). Since the event is 4 days (think you can only score for 3 of it), 8000 * 3 per day * 4 days = 96000 points. The 10k tasks on my board are things like Acquire 225000 Syndicate XP (think I can get max 30k in a day from factions and refinery), Acquire 17000 Multiphasic credits (well, gotta break the bank for that one), Acquire 3000 Section 31 Ciphers (can only buy these at that quantity).
Well first up it's 5 days, so you're looking at 15 tasks potentially. You need to be lucky/persistent with rerolls, but if you've got the NX, you've got a few options for 10k (which also give you another 12 rerolls) - acquire ex-borg credits (use nx opportunity tokens for this, I never spend them outside of AT, done 3 of them this run already), Acquire 500 Epic Dom solo directives and 500 Epic Borg solo directives (both done with 2/3 chest pulls from the rare loot box in bajoran faction store/borg refinery) - these last 2 have a 3 day cooldown on the pulls, so if you do them in day 1 or 2, you can go again in day 4 or 5
You spending on reroll tokens then? I just dropped 3 rerolls on 10k tasks, got another 3 that require spending. (Acquire 2000 UC Dom Solo Directives, Acquire 7000 Galactic Recruit Tokens, 6* mats [on 60 capped server])
Nope, but the alliance is working together to pool our rerolls for the 10k tasks. With 50 players all using their rerolls to get specific tasks, it's easier. Does mean lower level players don't use their rerolls to get nicer <5k tasks, but we decided a while back that it made more sense for those who could do the 10k tasks to get them and do them, than mess about with the smaller value ones. We're capped at 60 too, but I'm only 45, and only had the cap lifted from 50 a few weeks ago. We've definitely found that the reroll RNG really sucks. Almost every time we reroll a set of 3 10k tasks, at least 1 will be G6 mats.
if there was not any events at the moment that would be an improvement, as any event you are supposedly fixing makes it 10x worse. my 2 year old nephew has a better grasp at games than your programmers atm.
Scrap the Tournament altogether the New Year challenge was a better blueprint for this event apart from Borg Polygon fiasco but even that works in this circumstance.
I see the holiday event store came back (that's good!) but there is no fleet commander slot for sale (that's bad!). I was holding 180k tokens for that
If you finish the "premium" 10K tasks, they give 12k rerolls each. So you start Tournament w/ 12k. Reroll until you get one of the ones he mentioned, do that one, then reroll again. It builds on itself. Eventually you've got more rerolls than you can use and you have to burn them to pull your free 12k each day. If you time the rerolls token pulls right, you get 252k of them across the tournament. MUCH harder for non-G6, since they have fewer tasks they can complete, but still doable. (PS Once you can upgrade CC to 50, save those upgrades for the tournament and do the 1500 Unc SP task as well)
You can do the CC upgrade one lower down too, you jkust need more levels of building upgrade. I did one of those yesterday by taking my CC from 37 to 40 (had deliberately saved the upgrade mats for that task). Now I only need 2 levels of upgrade to complete the task, but that'll have to wait for the next AT
You're absolutely right. Thanks for the correction
<@&509690795536941056> @full swan @near saddle
Please end this misery and stop AT event. It is simply broken and your fix made it even worse. Skip relegation and provide a real compensation.
Attached a SS that shows our league board with nothing but us….
LLAP and get some quality please
2024 quantity on top of quantity
2025 bugs on top of bad content on top of bugs
Ours looks the same
This is absolutely broken and I can't move on with next task. It's like the ppl that with these tasks don't actually play test anything. #complete disaster.
Still big problems with accepting tasks. Accepted the test three times, spent the epic credits, shows is not started
<@&509690795536941056> Not to pile on, but this is feeling a little ridiculous. I've gone from the 5th-10th range to deep into relegation from just a scoring issue. If we're going forward with broken math and applying erroneous relegation, can the resulting comp chest please include a solid amount of the otherwise-missing Emerald Chain exp, as well as AT Credits?
This event says nothing about needing the corresponding ship to complete the event. I have hit one and refuse to do more unless I get answers. Communication from Scopley has always been a problem. #dobetter
@full swan could you please explain this scoring as based on the team having 100 members and 9 attempts each and highest scoring event being 10k don’t know how we get to 38m points
Alliance Refresh for the missions is either stuck or lagging reaaaaaally bad
still waiting for further commentary about how the "fix" was actually incorrect and a correction will be inbound
its friday, so the developers / CMs will be mysteriously absent. and the event will be over by the time they're back on Monday! funny how that seems to work out.
We're looking into the AT scores. Should have an announcement shortly.
considering how the last math-related situation with the month-long domination event went.... not that much
I never saw such a disaster from scopley before ... its simple math guys .... excel can help you ☝️
Maybe you need to stop “fixing” things.
That's fair.
y'all had the great mechanic of being able to hit hostiles in weh when nobody else wanted to pvp for many events, but it was forgotten on todays event 😦
Hello? The alliance is called Prime... of course the result is calculated x 10.😆
Hello? Official statement about the scoring????
Been stuck like this for 2 hours, spent 5k upgrading Kirk
nothing more scopely official than screwing up and staying silent about it
refinery- command center. refine uncommon skill points for skill points
you need to use the refinery to spend uncommon points, turning them INTO kirk uncommon points, just as the posted screenshot above shows.
they doing anything for taking an event that it turns out you cant do because your server isnt ascended other than giving you the finger and tell you to move along?
you should probably award at least some credits for all tasks, to be honest i'm not inclined to do any that do not give that reward. some of those even take forever to complete and hsould at least give some reward
also removing/disbling the claim for items you already have would be beneficial and lower CS tickets for refunds due to accidental purchases
one of the most irritating things in game and its everywhere.........
@full swan i hope you realize that alliance tournaments are a competitive thing.
The standard "we will provide comp for all participants" isnt comping anything.... its still allowing those who falsely received too many points (therefore being ranked higher) to receive greater rewards than those who woyld have otherwise finished higher.
For instance... in my bracket the 3rd place alliance is now #1 ... my alliance (previously #1 by significant margin) dropped to #9. The 8 alliances above us are in the 10s of millions (obviously incorrect score)
So now, in a competitive enviroment, the alliances which have incorrect scores are going to get #1 rewards and the comp...
While my alliance, which ahould be #1 ... is going to receive #9 rewards plus comp.
Applying an equal comp across the board is still leaving my alliance behind those who we should be beating.
the exact same hamfisted (see what I did there) fix that was done for the new years event screw up. This game has a 'competitive' side to it to entice spending, and comping everyone the same when some players arent negatively affected is less than ideal. folks are spending/playing/whatever to get an advantage vs other teams or players, and 'sorry we screwed up and are giving some players rewards they shouldnt be getting' doesn't solve the issue.
You comping us our 1st place avatar and frame? You keep the snowglobes. We struggle to get players to bother, we had 34% activity this tournament, almost double the average on the server. We get 7th place comp when we were in 1st? Snow globes? We won't bother going forward. Too unreliable, and nonsense mid-tournament adjustments.
there is nothing competitive in alliance tournaments when $100 gives you 10k points and 2 hours of game time give you 1500 pts 😉
if thats what you want to tell yourself 🙂 there are an easy 100,000 points a month for F2P players that own an NX01 and can run solo armadas.
More than that. 100k is pretty easy. F2p can max it (150k) with 2 hours game play lol
Theres lots of ftp 10k tasks. They just require a bit if forward planning and currency saving. And as this isn't the 1st tournament, people should know better.
<@&509690795536941056> How did we get relegated from Expert to Novice????????
@full swan NY's Celebration store must be "no limit" pulls now with all the compensation sent (and further coming).
Originally was 40, increased to 50 and now 100. Just make it "no limit".
#⭐-official-announcements message
It's cancelled
You have to refine skill points not upgrade skills for that task. So go turn 400 uncommon skill points into Kirk skill points for example.
Indeed, but in the mean while a lot of tokens,skill points etc are wasted....it is getting worse every single day...
As if Scopely hired todlers as programmers
You aren't related. It's another bug where randomly you will show novice and lvl 1 emerald chain. It should fix itself
I started the 10k “acquire 1500 uc commander skill points” task, upgraded my command center and got 1200 points. None showed up. Rebooted the game and the task is gone and I got no credit. So I “lost” the 1200 progress from the upgrade. It’s frustrating when every task requires hoping it will actually work, given they said it was fixed.
You gotta love how scopley says we going to lessen the grind times then they go and put scores so dang high that you have to grind all day long to complete just one thing. It’s ridiculous!!! Got a t6 nx-01 yet can’t do any of the high lvls that give higher scoring despite using recommended crews . Been trying to get 800 points for xindi but it’s taking me all freaken day long that’s ridiculous bs
Imagine my server is blocked for OPS 40. And having NX is impossible. But tasks are killing Xindi, killing Texas class, mirror universe... I can't even get in there🙈. So seriously, the whole alliance event urgently needs to be revised.
I thought 1p would be the minimum value for xindi when I took it for «400 points». Turns out I got only one in four count, so had to kill 1600 total to complete it🤢
I know it's annoying, but you need to grab a task, then restart game to verify it actually grabbed. Likely someone rerolled it out from under you as that task is one of th eless desireables
I saw it say started, but yeah, maybe it didn’t really happen. I’m restarting like crazy, but didn’t for that. I will from now on. Thx. Also I’m screen shotting everything.
i guess i wont get the prime particles of the master league with the comp chest, which we would have reached after this bug fail round ? no? yes?
Thank you for your understanding.
STOP jerking around the Alliance Tournament Leaderboards! For the Second time we've been shown we were in good standing vs other Alliances in keeping out status with our progress, now the Leaderboard today is totally new with all new Alliances not shown before grouped with! This really screws up the need to promote within the alliance our progress to keep and hold a given status when you keep moving the Field Goal Line in the MIDDLE of the event!! This is the SECOND ALLIANCE TOURNAMENT you've pulled this with!
If u just do the scoring on a piece of paper … so the correct alliance get promoted!!! A lot of us spent money to get these 10k tasks and to not be promoted is not acceptable since “the math is the math”. That’s why we spent on the packs. To get promoted…. Pay an intern to use google sheets to add these manually. Not hard.
stfc.wtf has a tournament tab which shows borked scores and true scores
Feedback: Use stfc.wtf to Promote the correct alliances. Feedback:
you can use stfc.pro as well 😉. both are the same, just the .pro doesn't get blocked in some filters (like in-game)
or even stfc.live if you are not professional enough for the pro version
Tried all epic solos reachable by an ops 56. With a 72 hour response time for tickets this isn't getting resolved until after tournament is over. Not sure what was intended here..
Why is the Horizon Mining ship ALLWAYS excluded from Master Surveyor Events as a Tier Up ship? Tiered 4 Horizons 3 times... only to find that there is a limited Ship list for this Venue
Can we have more than 5% of alliance tournament events doable for the average player that is below level 40?
More fkr hostiles less literally everything else designed for 40+ whales
Piece of advice if you get this event put the chaos tech on your strongest pwr ship. Or else it wont count.
@near saddle
So now it get's admitted they cannot even fix a problem they caused themselfs.
How will this compensation work? How exactly do you expect to compensate a worse place in the Tournament and therefore missing out on Credits AND Emerald XP?
How will you "punish" those alliances that have a better place now due to Scopely's "bugs" and get more than they should if the points were correct?
How will alliances be compensated that are now being pushed to higher or lower leagues that would not have been with correct points?
At this point, the only reasonable course of action would be to PULL THE EVENT and reward EVERYBODY the full rewards of a 1st place in their respective league!
Or just ... FIX IT. No other options really...
after spending hours and like 40k reroll credits to try to get some actual completeable 10k tasks...i've come to the conclusion this entire tourney reroll mechanic is lacking in any fun whatsoever. this is such a dull event
Plus the rewards from 9x10K-tasks to every player btw...
And btw, we were constant Top3 in all Tournaments when we had around 55-60 active players ... now we have 85-90 active players and would have easily made 1st place.
Instead, we are now at 5th due to that ridiculous scoring...
The boldly go events had a tabular interface. They scored as soon as you finished it, you didn't have to select anything to engage in a task before you completed it. There was no limit to the tasks you could complete, if you had the ability to do it. There was no reroll, and players had different tasks by ops level. It was transparent in what type of gameplay was demanded of the player.
The alliance tournaments has only 3 tasks per day, so it's limited. Tasks are same for everyone. You have to select a task (start it) before engaging in it. Not all available tasks are shown at the same time, you have to reroll, so it's not completely transparent in what is expected of the player.
The alliance tournaments should be more like the boldly go events, the interface is definitely better and even if tasks are not different for ops levels, not limiting them by three and removing the necessity to reroll and showing all tasks to everyone and not requiring anyone to click "start" to engage in the event and alliances competing on number of completed tasks is infinitely better than what the current state of alliance tournaments is.
Don’t care for alliance tournaments tacks. Working 800 points and I am about 2/3 complete but had been 3 hours. Where is the fun in that. Wasting my time for nothing.
cheating aquatic battlecruisers at it again, 4 defeats in a row, game settings on a definite scam and cheat
Do you know the actual leaderboard rankings for master league on the tourney pls <@&509691205798592532>
Only issue with pulling Info from https://stfc.pro/tournaments is that itll be constantly changing until the tournaments are over. Only then can they pull accurate info by then its quite likely all the damage will have been done already.
can anyone explain what the difference is in the scoring and why with the old way my alliance should be first and promoted but with whatever the new way is were 5th?.....
Scopely broke the leader boards while trying to fix them. Comp has been promised and we are waiting to hear more. There will be no relegations this time round too.
I'm more concerned with the promotion to master league...bout maxed out on what i need/want from expert store...this would be our 1st month attaining master
Yep im in the same situation, its difficult to comp that kind of loss too. The only thing i can think of is if Scopely pause the tasks at reset, Get the accurate scores and adjust the boards to proper value before re-enabling tasks. But i dont know how complicated that would be.
Having things like alliance tournaments (and incursions for that matter) start an end an hour before reset is incredibly disconcerting and confusing. Things need to be lined up with reset.
The Alliance Game task for acquiring UC skill points is now broken. Creating the points for the compliementary event works but not for alliance games
You can’t be serious. I’ve spend not only a lot of ingame ressources but bought 4 packs (400€) to get our alliance to first place in the alliance tournament. A lot of our players went 30k each day with point. And now we will not move up to the next tier? Because of a 12h outage in a 4 day event? That can’t be true. @rose oracle can you please verify that we indeed will not be moving up to the next league, will not get out first place reward, etc? Really?
not broken, you're doing it wrong. That one scores on leveling the command center or buying a pack, the titan refinery gives a small amount of uncommon skill points but not enough to do anything
completely unrelated to the sms
You will not be relegated for your rank, if the inflated score has you below the promotion line, you will not be promoted.
„Regulated for your rank“? Inflated score? You’ve lost me, sorry. Given our score (attached), based on the announcement, I’d expect to remain in the expert league, not move up to to „Master League“ and not get the attached rewards. Am I assuming correctly? Because that would be incredibly unfair.
regulated means demoted, everyone will remain at their current rank
if they're below the line
So. Tournaments have been a total farce
I think it needs to be taken off the roster until further notice while you fix it.
This run has been terrible and all you've done is annoy commanders.
People that have participated on the last 2 runs should be compensated with a GOOD amount of currency each month until it can be rolled out fixed.
Tournament store should remain open and available for users to spend their current and compensation currency
if you're above the promotion line, you will move up
No. This run has been insane, sure, but the last run was mostly bug-free. So they don't need to take it off the calendar, they just need to figure out how they took something that was mostly functioning and turned it into the mess that we've had this time.
Mostly bug free?
You must have been the lucky one. I do however agree it was smoother than this one.
But people having to reboot to see refreshed tasks, tasks not consistently scoring or tasks showing as started but then vanishing was still an issue last time.
They absolutely need to take it down and maybe do a limited server test while compensating the rest of the player base.
If I deployed something like this at work I'm pretty sure they'd have me fired and then make me disappear for good 🤣
Daily Events suck now. Less variety in tasks and rewards. For example there is no collect officer shards anymore. Or no competition events.
Another recruit Soran .... did Scopely just not want to make money this month?
scopely didnt want to make money for 3 months in a row, they thougt their new 3 shiptype pvp crews would sell ... but they trashed them with researches and primes, freeman is still pretty much the better choice
This can be really fun. But finding a suitable task for you is very time-consuming, which ruins the fun
Once again having to restart my game every time I want to see new tasks. How many months have your people had to iron this out and still can't get it done? I want to like tournaments, I really do, but the way it was put together is awful.
I guess I should expect reasonable fixes when there have been issues in game which have been unaddressed for years.
No one wants them pulled from the site. The point is that the website gets it's data from scopely. So scopely has the correct information. They are just unwilling or unable to fix the leaderboards to use the information....
Thing is, you don't have to reboot for refreshed tasks, it's a timer and most people are just too impatient to wait. And the reboot fills that time up. Would be nice if it just refreshed instantly when you reroll. But they do refresh every 1-2 min
That's super useful info to have in the Alliance Tournament store... /s
fortunately and unfortunately scopley doesnt function like we have to in the work place. We can't do what their employees seem to be able to do or we get fired. Then again if scopley would do to theor employees what our employers would do to us then we wouldn't have a game to escape our crummy lives. Personally I'm thankful and at the same time very upset at the product thst gets released or the bugs thst crop up and the excuses/reasons we're given on a daily basis only thing i have to decide is am I at my limit or not
Says we are 17th in masters but are second looking at scores but was first by 500k before it all started screwing up 🤦🏼♂️😂
<@&509690795536941056> I hate the events for alliance tournaments, I can’t even do 95% of them!
that's one of the easy ones?
unless you're under ops 40 that's one of the two best tasks, yeah
I am not talking about one task it the over all options and yeah I am under 40.
Or it’s that Scopley never explains anything and/or it never works right.
<@&509691205798592532> any idea why we are 16th with that score we was first by a 500k lead before the tourney started going to pot may i suggest giving everyone the first place reward as compo
We had a few guys spend a decent amount too which is kinda cash wasted
Anyone want to guess on the odds of the Epic Borg or Dominion task showing up on the reroll?
Tournaments should be reduced to 3 days max. Tasks are very repetitive and motivation to do them is diminishing after 2 days rapidly. Positions are mostly settled by now and waiting for it to end to grab final alliance rewards.
Looking at that, I think you are technically first, but when scopely fixed the split alliance bug they gave some alliances take points messing up the leaderboards
You got 10 million fake points, but the alliance now in first got 32 million fake points.
Hammy said they are choosing not to fix it this time...so enjoy whatever comp chests they give out...even though that alliance that got extra rewards for first will also get the comp chests...
Tbf we have came first everytime so far just a shame that some of our guys waited to buy stuff till the tourney
Thats not us highlighted we are 16th place with no imaginary score added
They really don't, not all the times and especially on mobile devices. Plenty of people here having to reboot the app to get them to show up. I've set there on streams with people watching there's Vs mine.
Also...I had an event stranger one this time in which the only way mine would refresh is if I started a task. Which invariably kicked me back out because the task had been claimed.
Tournaments are broken. They need fixing
Sorry I looked at you guys and saw you should be first, but looked at 12th for the fake part. And both my alliances lost motivation after they saw us getting hosed by scopely yesterday
Game becoming a joke tbf at the rate of stuff theyre expecting us to do it will be for retirees and the jobless only
If theyre willing to out up with the bugs and screw ups
I'm not sure if it's a bug or just lag, but I started the Alliance Tournament task. The message showed that it was active after I pressed "OK," but after completing the task, it doesn't show that I started it. Now I can't repeat it because I don't have any available starts left.
Yep. Just got the same. Start a task. The 4000 ultra recruits. Conplete it but its not showing to collect. 🥸
🤔🤔🤔
I wanted to accept a task but it didn't work, after restarting and trying to accept another task the game tells me that if I accept this one my previous one will be deleted 😳, but I can't find a started task 🙈
I think you mean relegated, as regulated is very different.
Why not use stfc.wtf and use the real scores??? Allaince that have worked and paid to get promoted based on Actual score.. are being told. “Don’t worry you won’t be demoted”. Demoted!!!! How about being promoted like we worked/paid for???
Name another game. That half way through the game. The scoreboard stops working. So the refs say… “we’ll keep playing. We just won’t keep the real score.. we will use this score on this broken board instead…”. In what world would that happen?
“Well don’t worry… you won’t lose the game… you won’t win.. but you won’t lose. Now keep playing. Keep paying!! “”
Why would that be ok?
Is 15x5 shards in the tournament store intentional? 1 shard in an oopsie chest would be much appreciated.
Why would that be an oopsie? You need more than 76 to max it
level your eye or lorca skill, without the efficiencies, it's more than one shard to unlock it with a full pull
@valid knoll Takes 76 for me to unlock it. @molten marlin haven’t bought Lorca or the Vindicator and Eye of Ara is maxed for my building level. But point taken about it costing different players different amounts.
You need 76 to unlock it and a lot more to max it. Plus it now has f2p sourcing and will be back next time the AT rolls around. Just let it keep sitting there until next month. Kirshara still causes issues with impulse lag so give them time to fix it
Unlocks with 62 for me, thanx to Lorca FC and Eye of Ara, so if you get those to the right level you wouldn’t even need to buy more in the next tournaments if there is ever a next tournaments after this one
Also there are PLENTY of intentional “just not quite enough” pulls in the tournament store… such as giving 7 shards for things that need 150 or 200, neither of which are divisible by 7… to make sure it will take an extra tournament to get the last piece before you can unlock it (such as FTs and some other artifacts)
It's all a joke we have maintained master legue 1st through 4th in the tournaments and all of a sudden boom 16th smh
Dude, what is this, the 3rd or 4th straight day with hirogen event?
Seems like everyone is suddenly 16th place…? That’s more than a coincidence. A lot of us commented about the brackets and scoring being out of whack at the end of the last tourney. Looks like our comments were completely ignored until the start of this one….?
Polygon armadas are soooo broken. Even if you make sure no one has Toli on the ship anywhere. You can start an armada (100 directives) and it goes into the ether. No ship damage, no battle report, directives are gone. Some polygons stay 'dead' but 'there' so even avoiding those does not help. Customer service is replacing directives, but its frustrating.
we should be 1st in our bracket and scopely scoring has us 11th, kinda demoralizing to the members. they pushed hard and kicked as to get us into first to get promoted to master and scopely is ignoring it.
Lmfao we was as they call demoted smh
I’ve looked after 5 and they’re still empty…
Far better option to force it to sync, honestly. In 1-2 min good tasks are long gone
I getting to hate the game more and more and tbh i dont know why i keep playing. Mostly because the people but then again i just havd go remember, there great people everywhere. Not just here...
I hate the rng stuff in games where you grind. How often the only payed availabke task pop up compared to the value f2p task are insane. Every other roll is the stupid spend 100 bucks (multiphasic 17k) task. After rerolling 40 times not getting what i look for. Its just stupid and another money grab on a terrible implementation of something that chould bring fun in the game.
Way to go @near saddle for kicking our alliance out of our 1st place by CHOOSING not to fix a mistake you made.
Instead we get to "enjoy" diminished rewards (both Tournament Credits AND EmeraldXP) and whatever will be in the general compensation chest.
Same goes for the original 2nd place who is now 16th. and the original 4th place who is now 1st who I am sure are happy about it...with over 1M points less than we have.
The Amounts of some prime particles you can get in the AT store are making no sense. Like why do you get 136 Omega Particles per pull!? Neither 750 for Level 1 of that prime, nor Level 2 nor 1+2 are a multiple of 136. Why not make it 150 so it would be a clean 15 pulls.... or 125. You cant use that Particle for nothing else anyway.
Agreed, we are 6th when we should be 4th. But even more ridiculous, the alliance that is in 1st place on our server should be eighth!!!
So let me ask this, hypothetically if the result of 'fixing' this was no tournaments for 6 months and a 6 month delay on the rewards for this month while they code up a tool to recalculate this month, would it then be worth it to have one month be right? What level of cost is worth it to you to have one month be right? Because when we're talking about technical issues, there is a debt to every thing that is done. Pull a person off task A causes task A to be delayed, and then tasks G, M, and Y to be subsequently delayed.
Also, I would suggest it is likely not Simpauly who has chosen not to fix the calculations this month, but those in management who looked at the cost in time, money, and resources to possibly fix this miscalculation, and decided it was not worth accruing more debt for this fix. However, Simpauly is the person who you can rage at as they are the person presented to you as 'responsible' for this problem. Rarely in a company is the person you're given as the face of a problem the one who choose the path you're angry about.
Easy solution there --- stop further content, fix the bugs in all the current content.
Waves (constant lag), Tournaments (Scoring issues, bracket issues, etc.), Arenas (matchup, lag, whatever is wrong with it now that we have had 2 weeks without it), etc.
And just as a reminder ... the last tournament was at the end of November, when we had the same scoring issues. The one before was End of September so 2 months.
This has nothing to do with further pause of the more Tournaments but everything to do with Scopely's willingness (or unwillingness) to adress these issues.
And yes, mixing up the leaderboard in the way that they did, pushing top-performing alliances down to 16th and therefore forcing them to miss their rewards CANNOT be compensated by a general chest that goes out to everybody.
Those on the 1st places that do not belong there get the rewards AND the compensation.
In my opinion, they should have stopped the Tournament completely once those scoring issues arose. Then they could have issued a general compensation chest and everything would have been fine.
Right now, it is ridiculous what they did and how they act around it. If I would behave that way in my own work, I would be fired.
So your idea is all hands on deck to fix current issues, pause all arcs and new content, pretty much pause the game for further progress, in order to fix these issues. I predict this would result in the end of the game as players would no longer be spending at the rate they do, and the game would no longer justify the time, money and resources. That is definitely one way to make big changes to STFC. If anything 2024 and early 2025 in the games industry has shown is that the people who control the money have very little patience for money losing operations.
I am glad in this post you are aiming your ire in the right direction at least. Scopely as the corporation and it's C-suite executives are the cause of your feelings, not the arc/event runner or CMs who are trying to make the best of a bad situation.
I think, though, that you are ignoring the hypothetical cause you don't like it. The hypothetical presented is what if fixing this like you want caused a 6 month pause in the tournaments, 6 months without any rewards, just to fix this calculation issue, instead of moving forward with this month's broken calculations, and aiming to have them fixed for next time. The question is whether this is a cost you're willing to accept to have the results be right.
I agree, once they realized their error tournaments should have been cancelled for the month, but I also recognize that there are layers I don't know, and communications may exist that I am not privy to which would have impacted the decision to not cancel the tournament already. I can accept there are variables I am not aware of that could have impacted their choices.
As I don't know the error made, the actual coding or math error not the effect we see, it's hard for me to judge how terrible or ridiculous it is. Management in a company, if they are responsible for the response to this issue, are rarely fired for their mistakes unless they cost share value.
I don’t care who is the culprit. I want bugs fixed
No new content will keep people here if errors are not fixed.
Kirshara as a paid feature is just so messy with it’s issues that I keep wondering if it was worth a dime back then.
And the point calculation issue in Alliance tournament right now is unlike any I seen on other games anywhere
Pausing further development would not mean a halt in the game at all. We have had plenty of content in the last 2-3 years that is still hardlocked in many places. Many people have yet to unlock crew that is at this point at least 2 years old. Not to mention most are far away from maxing out those crews. So we could easily have a few months with arcs that revisit older content and actually make a strive for people to get that content.
Easy examples: Strike Team Crews, PIC-Crews, Ent-E-crews, MU-crews, Ferengi-crews
So there is an easy 7 months right there where you could build up events and stories around those crews. That would give people a chance to actually get that crew as well as give Scopely time to figure out those heavy bugs in so many aspects of the game.
On the point of spending - I honestly doubt that pushing for more bugfixes would stop spending. In my opinion, leaving those bugs and creating experiences like the current Tournament stops people from spending. I know I have (and I have spend about 7K over the last 2.5 years) and so have many others in my alliance in the last 6-12 months due to Scopely's unwillingness to recognize what players actually need. And while the huge whales might not have any big feature to unlock, thousands of others would probably start spending again when they see real improvement.
Of course the people we complain to cannot do much and are just the receiving end of it. Doesn't change the error though. Fact is they should have stopped the Tournament the minute it was decided to not fix those scores.
And sure, I am no coder and am of course not sure how much work would go in there - but a third-party-site was able to calculate correct scores in a few hours...so there is that.
I say all of this as someone who has worked in tech for 25 years, and was a tech hobbyist for a decade before that. I've worked in companies with thin margins, and been left unemployed as the result of decisions which saw the margins evaporate. The executives always landed just fine, while the folks trying to make things work with bubblegum and baling wire were left on their asses in the street.
In the end, I can't blame the programmers. There should always be new content pushed into the game without the old problem that has existed for years being eliminated. How do you want to repair a product decently? It just doesn't work. I think the programmers would vote for a 3 month break. That won't happen... because without new content, sales drop rapidly. 🤷🏻♂️. In the long run, the game would win and thus increase sales. But in a world with quarterly figures and corresponding pressure, this does not work. Share value is actually uninteresting. In the end, Scoply is completely owned by the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund. But the annual bonuses from management are of course based on sales targets. An orientation to long-term growth would be better. But that's how it works everywhere
I didn't 😳. I hope you mean someone else
Yeah, that’s the American way of money that was adopted everywhere but that is just an underlying issue.
The good thing about the ownership is that IF anyone from the board is seeing this the right way it can just be easily done with the backing of the upper echelon.
Do you think the whales who's wallets keep this game running will pay for officers they already bought and maxed out back when they released? Without the whales this game dies. This is why there are new ships and new crews, while they do a smattering of old crews here and there to help the non whales try to complete stuff.
You wouldn't get to 7 months, the 75%+ drop in income would shutter the game, lose everyone all the progress they made, and put to waste all the financial investment from everyone, be they a elite BP spender, or a whale.
While I can't speak for the third party site, and how accurate they are, since I don't know the intended calculation behind tournaments, I do feel like there have been some significant errors in judgement as seen by the player side, without the players understanding, as usual, that they can't see everything on the corporate side. This is, sadly, something that happens across almost every gamer community, fair or not, because most communities are a mess. (the warning from Arsenic was for me folks)
The programmers may be the source of the issue, but the limitations on finding fixes that satisfy the community and continue the money making are not on the devs of the game. I am not sure if they game has ever had a properly formed set of teams for STFC, one group aimed at future content, the other at fixing existing content, but it is definitely not feeling like that is what is currently in place based on the lack of fixes for existing content, and seeming lack of drive behind issues that have persisted as long as I have been playing, but unlike many, I aim my feelings at those who make the decisions, not those who have to follow those decisions. I am glad to see someone who can see the forest through the trees and see the realities of the game, not the wish casting that so many do. What's the song name... "It's all about the benjamins"?
i mean, hypothetically, i could take just 4 hours to fix, the real numbers are there, the issue is, what ever is adding them up messed up, and it was fine before they fixed the split brackets on friday, and the numbers arent still exponentially increasing, I am guessing whatever script they ran to combine the points messed up and added a whole bunch of non existant points, whether from previous tournaments or from out of nowhere.
Either way, the REAL totals exist. it shouldnt take rocket science to figure switch the results to the actual totals,
also, as far as spending, you can tell by the number of 10k tasks being done, that spenders are buying packs during tourney for points, you think they will keep doing it if the points dont matter and their alliance that should be getting first is getting 12th or 15th cause scopely cant math?
All my tasks done werr 10k tasks and paid for none...
Assuming every 10k completed means a pack was bought is a leap i would not take. A large (to not say overwhelming) majority of the commonly appearing 10k tasks can be completed with a relatively simply amount of preparation and a 2nd month of having a currency exchangeable for materials overlapping with AT makes it significantly easy for g6 players to do 3 10k tasks daily without spending a penny.
As for fixing the scoring issue we don't know when scopely staffers returned to the office following holiday break. Meaning they potentially have had a skeleton crew for emergency response in the office potentially till as recently as today, if they're even back, their potentially was simply not enough time to correct the coding in time. Not trying to shill but the weekend crew at scopely HQ has always been light. I'm sure you value your days off as much as they're staffers do
I know, all but 1 of my 12 tasks so far were 10k and done ftp, but i guarantee you not all were.
it took them 2 days to fix the split brackets, and in doing so, they messed up the scores. a third party web site was able to calculate the correct scores within what. 1-2 hours of scopely breaking it. Fixing the leaderboards wouldnt be hard, it was just time for them to go home after just coming back from being off already...
Why is it so hard to show the correct currencies.. and PLEEZE FIX IT SO YOU CAN ACCIDENTALLTY click on the wrong ones
and maybe, just maybe here is an idea, dont schedule an event that has been buggy since day 1 of its release when there will be no staff there to fix issues 4/5 days that its running.
and if you are wondering why im so upset about this---
Qualifiers- we placed high enough for expert.
1st run-We placed 7th in expert, but the end bugged out, they gave us apprentice rewards and relegated us to apprentice.
2nd run we scored high and moved back to expert,
3rd run we are in 1st and should be moving to master but scopely bugged it again and has us in 11th...
It looks like what they did was, combine last months and this months scores from your bracket into 1, so if you are in the same bracket as last month, you get extra points, if not, your score shows correct.
The alliance tasks seems to repeat the same tasks, used 32 Rerolls and still getting the same ones. Yet soon as I’m done doing lower then 10k because as I said they don’t change, then they change to ones I could have done.
This is crazy. So I’ve also tryed waiting a hour or a 12 and nothing but as soon as I’m done picking another a 10k tasks comes up I can do when I’m out of attempts. Frustration with the game reaches new levels
That's something we're all complaining about.
Well done, launch a mirror research slb 1 day AFTER you start an NSEA upgrade event which also counts omega dust.... honestly every move scopely makes these days is ANTI player and purely designed to get people to spend. But don't be mistaken, it makes people just annoyed and will REDUCE spending...
MU-Research never counts Omega Dust though.
they added it with the last run of it earlier this month
and it has it again
they've been very poor about syncing events lately
Well I stand corrected ... 
One day i will understand $copely new logic ( Saudi logic, as it seems ). Why offer shards in tournament store and put a ridiculous low limit in buys.........why should a buy a pack to earn lots of tournaments points and don't be able to unlock a single forbbiden tech or a decent artifact......Specialy because there is no where else in game where these can be obtain, unless you pay a full unlock. ( Why try the paied 10.000 tasks if you will end up paying for the good stuff? )
Sometimes $copely gets trap on their own spend traps.....Too much greed spoils the game and make the players ( even spenders ) to dislike the game...🤔
Still you don't need to pay any $ to finish with just 10k tasks done. Proper preparation needed only.
Game wants me to run g6 armadas that I can’t reach for the alliance tournament. And spend that new dilithium that I can’t even earn let alone spend…
the tasks are alliance wide
Please make Galactic Recruits shop available once in a while to low levels, so we get chance to spend those galactic tokens we get in events. Same story with Independent Archives. I'm at currency cap and I just waste daily resources, because can't spend it on recruits. Ops 18.
That's what they want you to believe! Somehow mmo games survived pre p2w... Just with an abo
Any chance the Advanced Developments SLB event to return? I have a ton of special buildings just waiting for it to show up so I can upgrade them
asked, will push it again, but don't cross post
Can anyone confirm if the alliance tourney credits are going to carry over again if you remain in the same league or are the back to use em or lose em?
I think it’s misleading advertising to put Paris in the art for the New Year’s resolution research (gas) chest, implying he’s available (even by chance) in that chest, even though he’s not. Archer, Tucker, Phlox, Shran, Tpol, & Hoshi are the officers included in that chest. FWIW that’s illegal in the US.
Oh, so you want STFC to go subscription?
I would love to do todays events, but cannot due to not having enough Mirror Vouchers to even get into mirror space. Yes, I might have a rep grinding problem, but that is not the point. Hopefully i can knock it out in the morning but this would be a nice thing for them to give us one or two trips worth of entry vouchers with the event... like the borg tokens when they run those events.
Thx, for running the Alliance Tournaments. Even if you know that it was not perfect. Nice to get some progress on the stuff in the Tournament store, looking forward to next run. Need it to run monthly so i can sours the stuff i would like to get out of the store. Keep running it and try to fix the bugs inbetween the runns.
Can we nudge the weight on seeing some of the other 10k tasks. I’ve never once seen the epic borg one. And only once the epic dominion.
For bit upgrade idea for alliance tournament, Every task in alliance events give store credits, not only the highest ones. This would give more people to join in it
For the mirror space events, it would be great if we could get a chest of mirror vouchers on those days. Today I am unable to get into mirror space as I am out of them. Too much faction grinding. But we do get Borg trans warp cells every time we have those events…. This would be along the same line of thought
Last Arc Soran SMS with the different LvL of SMS was fantastic. Hope it will be used in the Future, just to bad it was Soran that was the officer you like to test it on. I dont find him usefull as a officer. Last Arc`s Rare would hame been much better to have in the SMS comparde to Soran. Guess next Arc will have the Hll Breach Epic Officere and again will not be a officer i would go crazy for. Also enjoyed that you had the SMS that sourced Demarco running together with Soran it was the reason for me to go so fare in the Soren SMS lvl. During this weeks SMS & SLB i just save my mats for a better officer SMS & SLB. Wrong chose of officer for a in between arc sms.
Is this alliance tournament going to give emerald chain XP?
since the alliance tournament credits will carry over, please fix the description as well.
I'm OPS35, have been chipping away at this task for an accumulated 6 hours now, i already burned through all my rare and epic armada directives, the Hirogen task only turned up this morning, no one on my server could tell me how the rare ability point thing is supposed to work (my kirk and spock use only common and i can't progress any further in the tree due to level lock) and nothing else is viable for me.
Yesterday i got my hands on a Borg hunt, only to realize in the end that i had to dump 23 tokens for all the destroyed Vidars and Talios'.
When do you enable help from other alliance members so we can (as you originally announced) WORK TOGETHER as an alliance to score, instead of infighting for tasks that give only a tiny fraction of what the lvl40+ can finish without breaking a sweat?
voyager archive, well short on artifacts, was pulling more manually than get from archive, total let down and disappointment
We need 750/1500 Omega Particles for the Prime Critical Strike research. 136 will cause the player to waste valuable credits in order to get the 750 and 1500. Change the redeemed particles from 136 to 150 (or to 100 for cheaper credit).
Very much. Let skill matter again
Is the carry over for sure this time?
Second day in a row where i see an FKR hunting task and can't activate it while i'm still under 3/3 and the task itself is in the list for more than 5 minutes after i tried.
And who thought it would be a good idea to implement tasks that require the equivalent of 4+ level-ups of an OPS-locked building?
according to the official announcement:
#⭐-official-announcements message
ArsenicTouch has said so but no official confirmation post.
Would be great to have it official - the reference angel linked was for the last tournament
I like alliance tournaments. The addition of the Kir’sha artifact was great 👍. I know people have said it is not perfect but it is helpful to me. Please continue working on tournaments- it is a good addition to the game.
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Can you explain this, please?
The last time AT credits carried over!
Abso-freaking-lutely! Then they can be held legally accountable for this B.S. game that they are not charging us for.
lol right. I guess it'll be a lot easier when they merge all the remaining players down to a single server. Also, I'd love to see where any MMO operator in the US has been held leagally accountable for poor performance. Hint, you won't find one because they all have ToU or ToS that eliminates this possibility.
Yeah , but have paying customers that quit, v.s. F2P customers quit might put a bit of pressure on them. Plus the fact more players would be on the same level playing field. I don’t have to deal with some little jerk living in mommy’s basement, with her credit cards playing the “Buy everything in sight game” instead of actually learning how to play.
games like this survive on the pay to win model.
How long after the tournament will the store be open?
Shouldn't we get a reward for ranking after the tourny ends?
day or 2 after
Should get reward and EC rep when it closes in a 1.5h
well if they are going to try and fix the scores this close to the end, who knows what rank we will have as we've been playing it blind the past 3 days.... can't see our real score, can't see any other scores either to see if we need to push or not. overall typical scopely then, make it up as you go along and who cares what the players want
@near saddle That the AT scores are going to be fixed by a script when the last announcement of the scores being broken implied that nothing was going to be done is problematic.
Not a problem for me, because my alliance won the coin flip and got first place in our bracket and have been pushing tasks for AT credits anyways, but I know a number of alliances in our bracket just stopped because of the millions of points difference between us and second.
Assuming the script even works, players have been denied proper information about their placement and denied information about the broken scores actually being fixed meaning Alliances like mine have had days worth of a lead given to us compared to the other alliances that rightfully just clicked off of this AT to try for the next one.
Better communication is needed because if it was made clear that the broken scores were going to be fixed then so many alliances may have continued to push and not get shafted by the correction and from their view, denied rewards that Scopely was going to hand out because they were not going to fix the problem.
<@&509690795536941056> great work fixing the scoring, my alliance is rightfully back to 4th place and getting promoted. Just waiting to see what the compensation is now, but this was a positive result 😄
edit: just to add, the people above complaining about "not knowing if they should push or not", what utter nonsense? You should always be approaching alliance tournament in the same way, knowing your score is irrelevant
<@&509690795536941056> Thanks for fixing the LBs for tournaments
<@&509690795536941056> First off, thanks for keeping us informed, I'm sure it has been an... interesting week for you guys 🙏
If there are promotions without relegating, that means the next tourney is going to see a smaller Novice League, but all the other leagues will be larger than intended, correct? Does this mean a higher number of alliances will be relegated at the conclusion of the next tourney to restore the intended balance to those leagues?
Thank you @near saddle for listening and pushing a fix for the scores in the alliance tournaments!
Before they fixed the scores the alliance below us was 5 million points behind and scopely said they weren't going to fix the scores, that isn't the kind of lead you can catch up to, at that point you're better off just stockpiling supplies for the next AT when the scores should be fixed to give yourself a better chance at winning and not waste millions of potential points on something you're going to lose due to a scopely bug that they said they're not going to fix
The scores needed fixing but you can't blame people for giving up after scopely literally announced they weren't going to fix it, it would be different if they'd made it clear this was something they were going to fix before the tournament ended
How long are they keeping the alliance tournament store open?
They didn't say they would definitely not be fixing it, they said they were not going to be addressing it "immediately". Did you even read the announcement?
Also what kind of ppl would look at bugged scores, knowing they can check the correct numbers from 3rd party sites or calculate yourself and just lay back like they were entitled to the victory they did nothing for?
Can a Dev confirm that the currency will rollover till the next Alliance Tournament Store? It makes no sense to wipe it everytime due to item limits.
it rolls over
Disabling relegation implies they weren't going to be able to fix it until after the AT, guess it depends on how you read it but it shouldn't even be open to interpriation, if they were going to fix it before the end they should have literally just said that
I was also addressing alliances that were behind not ahead, the alliance that was 5 million points behind us is now in first place for our entire group, they deserved the win obviously but as I said why would they bother wasting materials not actually knowing if it was even going to be fixed? the gap between 8th and 1st place was only like 900k points, I'm pretty sure it was much larger last month so they defintely gave up and tbh I don't blame them
It's rolled over the last 2 times, the only time it didn't was during the "Qualifier". No reason to think it won't roll over now
People are worried about it because the tool tip for the alliance tourney credits reverted to saying they won't roll over.
So first of all nobody in your alliance bothered to check the actual score from sources where this information was available?
And secondly, none of the resources spent is wasted, because the tasks also give you rewards. Most of them to be exact.
And thirdly, since when is trying your best the wrong thing to do regardless of the outcome?
Could I ask if this is based on the announcement issued in November, or if you've had some more recent guidance / info from the inside regarding this?
They rolled over from last tournament too. I don't think Scopely even has the technology to delete currencies, as you can well see from your inventory stacked full of years old event store currencies that they could have made to automatically delete a month after the event, but they don't.
They did, but the announcement specifically mentioned that they were being rolled over for the next tournament, not necessarily all tournaments. I'd love to save for a couple things if I could, but not confident enough to gamble on it. Especially given the tooltip on the credits still says they don't carry over (not that in game text is always reliable).
Massively disappointed by the problems with Alliance Tournaments this time, which is a shame because every other time so far I have really enjoyed the event. When the point issues happened and the announcement said you weren't able to fix them immediately, our alliance was suddenly second in our new bracket, with an alliance in front that was impossible to catch, and a much higher level alliance in third place who we assumed would likely catch us up. We then spent a couple of days pushing Alliance members hard to score as highly as they could. We put a huge amount of time and effort, and some players spent money that they would not have otherwise spent, trying to keep ahead of the 3rd place alliance and keep that 2nd place we were in. A couple of hours ago we were 40,000 points ahead of the 3rd place Alliance and while it was going to be very close, we were hopeful that we would manage it. But now the points have been fixed and we are thrown back into 10th place. We can understand not penalising other alliances, but under the circumstances what has happened to us seems massively unfair. Honestly, I believe alliances that were in higher places before the points correction should be given those higher place rewards, as that placing is what they worked for, and in some cases spent money to achieve. I have no faith that a blanket compensation will come close to making up for this.
The spot at the top of tournament store is showing random things isntead of alliance tournament credits, I've had it show 2* ISO, armada directives, and now it's stuck on loyalty badges
Exactly. Maybe the incorrect scores weren't fair (I mean, no maybe about it really, they weren't, and this is from someone who got bumped to 1st because of it), but people made decisions based on the scares as we were presented to them, and so for Scopely to correct the scores with only 1 hour left in the event is equally unfair.
Curious how an Alliance in tournaments has people scoring more then 15 times
I have some very disappointed players, we had a solid 1st place on our board and we worked hard for it just to end up 6th
because the first task refresh messed up and some people were able to do extra tasks without it counting
Quite unfair to change the score 30 minutes before the end when nothing could be done to change them, we went from first to fourth… very very unfair
we've gone from 22nd to 8th and now the 14th with these "scoring adjustments" and they make 0 sense the whole time... no one knows what scorethe aliance actually has or where they're placed and we keep moving between brackets... what a bloody mess
This <@&509690795536941056>
There is one person who is extremely happy about this mess -- my husband.
He has been waiting for a long time for me to stop spending money on this game.
It looks like our alliance got relegated... or not? In the tournament tab it shows us as expert, but adept elsewhere.
Yes clearly it was done to trick players in spending money, so unprofessional, unfair, unjust and complacent
We were placing first, now we are placing 7th. How are we meant to play when you make such a mess
Will credits roll over again?
<@&509690795536941056> thank you for fixing the scores before it ended.
they carry over
@full swan I know you said no relegations in the Alliace Tournament, but guess what we are showing as being demoted from MAster to Expert. Server 159 Alliance tag DRED.
I understand the importance of "fixing" the scores, but where are the individual results? Going from 2nd to 9th sucks, but we can't even verify the scores now...
Edit: Why this is an issue, I completed a 5000pt task in the last minutes. The difference between 9th and 6th is 5500pts in our bracket. Instead of gearing up for mining we were putting points on the board for the tournament
Asking for many friends, how long will the alliance tournament store be open?
Scopely themselves cannot verify the scores, or else they would have gotten them right the first time, instead they changed them 3 times , just further frustrating players
Wonder which wallet they're ajudsting for ?
Go check stfc.live
@near saddle @full swan in regards to statement saying no relegation, our alliance on server 156 shows relegated to adept... not sure if this is an issue for others too
Ours is well broken moved down and reset server 114
Great job on fixing the scores back to the correct ones in alliance tournaments. A++
Feedback: Great!
see above, same issue but I think they might of been expecting it and just need to promote those relegated
But we were level 8 on emrald chain now were back to zero points
You don't run the invasion event enough ...
That's in mirror space... easy going do if you have protector
the issue is that they have not been running the event to get the protector on a regular basis ... thus people who have moved for 40+ in the past few months don't have it and would have it is they ran the event as they said they would.
Then buy it...
What button is he talking about the one that weve checked that tells us we're in the wrong one or the emerald chain that's been reset to zero
Have you restarted your client lately?
These days, any time you buy a favour from a faction store, or accept/reroll a tournament task, I have to restart my client. Sometimes it's every time I grab a 10 minute chest... So first thing, restart your client. 😛
Indeed, restarting my client cleared up the "visual issue" of apparent relegation.
Yes and just redone and still wrong its the 1st go to that everyone does im lvl45 not 10
So when this button shows "Expertenliga" (which is Master League in english?), we are in this league the next round?
<@&509690795536941056> This run of alliance tourneys has been deeply frustrating for our alliance. Now, I haven't received the points I earned during the event. I've tried restarting my client several times. I ended up submitting a support ticket.
Several in this thread have asked, how long will the tourney store be open?
Consider: I submitted a ticket to get the loot I earned, but with recent request load, response time is 72 hours. I would really like to be able to get the credits I earned and be able to spend them in the store before the next tournament. Please consider keeping the tourney store open extra long while you resolve these sort of issues and allow us to get the loot we worked for.
Thanks.
Once again, the inability of this company and its employees to correct the incorrectly counted points at the end is shown, so that absolutely no possibility remains to react, incompetence in its highest form
Where are the Mirror Vouchers so i can even get into mirror space for todays events! Come on Scopely, you give them to us with transwarp cells! Why are you locking me out from playing today
don't forget the powers that be at scopley don't work on weekends so for them it hasn't been 3 days since the original announcement of we ain't fixing the bug but giving a comp chest to today's oh we're fixing the bug. More like only 8-12hrs in scopley time I know I'm being sarcastic....
I don't know how good the new arc will be, but I like the idea of it being based on the year of hell.
Don't you get enough to go in like 3 times a day?
well some ppl spend all day in there hunting the mu enterprises or mining so they can max pull eberything in the refinery. Myself i go in so that i have enough for a single pull of everything less growth but it's constant and allows me to compete in events because i have access and haven't run out of entry tokens
Yeah, I go in once every2 weeks and still pull everything
yep some players have hmmm how to say this without upsetting the masses I'd have to say time and efficiency in how they grind all the different loops and currency in game. For example 1 day would be just mu or xindi and so forth so that you can make the most out of banking stuff to compete in events so you wouldn't have to be tempted to always swipe the card. I'm still tempted to buy packs don't get me wrong but the rewards in events are never ever worth the pack price i buy packs because of what's in the pack not to win an event and never ever buy more than 1 pack a month as then I'm just being frivolous in spemding stuff
No, you get one or 2 entries a day depending on Rng. Then every 3 days you get 3 additional entries
you're forget the entry tokens if you have the nsea and yes i know not ev1 has it due to ops level and such but for those that do have it there is no reason you don't have entry tokens except over usage of said tokens and not efficiently using your mu time
What happened to the weekly officer shard drops from swarm Sunday?
waiting to hear back
I got on this morning and I couldn’t see what creds I had. Now, after clearing localization, it shows store closed and we have been reset to level 1. I haven’t been able to spend any of the alliance tournament creds. When and why did the store close?
Now it’s back open. Is this a glitch?
It's still open sometimes it bugs out
Sometimes it will reset you to emerald 1 and novice. But that's just it having trouble pulling data
👍
So if you don't stay in same alliance for the entire series of the alliance tournaments you're just SOL??
I would love to see something to do with the extra mirror fragments once District building is max....
We've had 6 already
Actual feedback: Please keep the Choice token idea. And the double-BP is a great value for those who finish their BP. Together would be great, too. Especially with the upcoming material converter to move things around as needed (slowly...).
Since Bek pointed it out on DJz stream --- The Choice Token was phenomenal. Please keep it around. I want more of it.
Choice tokens were an amazing addition, as was the choice of weekend sms officers during the new years events. More of that during flash pass please!
Will the credits roll over this time?
Waste time doing the slb or just do a daily pull, hmm 🤔. 😂😂 Payout is so bad
@near saddle any word on compensation for alliance tournaments yet please? I hope you'll give us some currency and also leave the store open longer as part of this compensation 🤞
remove voyager from archive store, losing a lot more from it being in there , than gaining, and the so called grind was almost non existent for it, so no saving on a so called grind, bad choice to put it in the archive
As someone who just got the Voyager, ignore this person
How do you lose more? Before you had 3-5 days on voyager claims, now it’s every 20 hours
Another loooop........boring! Quality of life been sucked out of the game completely
But does that mastery reward include the +5 rolls research on refineries?
If it works like the vidar / borg one does, yes it should
i was pulling a lot more, including the voyager chest in the mirror refinery, all pulls were max, a lot more artifacts and different types, not any more
release 3 new iso/apex pvp teams, and introduce new building that wrecks them 😂 glad i skipped 3 months
you have to remember, you could only do the voyager anomoly exchanges like once a week, you can do this daily. so multiply what you are getting x7
Actually. Let me calculate it again 😆
with the new "arc" coming up, what are you bets it got broken in the update ?
please stop this damage ebls before you finally design the brackets properly.
how is an ops 62 player supposed to survive against ops68+ players when there are two ship classes higher available?
@full swan Could you plz put out an announcement as soon as possible as to exactly when the Alliance Tournaments Store will close and whether or not unused credits will roll over to the next run, thx 👍🖖
they roll over, and it closes 48 hours after the tournament ended
Some new arc events are showing up already. Guessing this is not intended as evident in that there's nothing new in the store and some other obvious omissions.
or it is intended so we build the building and miss out on points from an event once arc actually starts!!!! so we'd end up spending more than we normally would
can't build the new one yet until it starts with the gift anyway so no risk for that. but the heroic one needing 12.5K of the new building parts is a bit high, that's taking it to level 51/52....
seems doable in scopley's view of how many players spend 1k a month or more in packs right.....
10/10
If you build the dti building before reset it isn’t scoring toward the dti event that’s already under events tab just a heads up you will waste your build and not get any score in the event. Scopely should have been clear about this.
good lord, the arc did no even start and the LAG is horrendous
Can we talk about names? And why were not allowed to talk about this arc in-game?
What are you even talking about? The Voyager archive claim is literally the best one, simply for all the artifacts
Gotta love it…
Q/C at its finest
How about Voyager having some sort of bonus for an event based around the Voyager show?
Or is that a no because it can't be monetized?
Looking at points per hostile vs points needed for the event 🤨 ( ops 46 )
Are we still due a comp chest for Alliance Tournaments? Does that mean that the store will be up longer?
Global event
yeah just noticed
Too many hostiles to kill on the event missions, losing interest in the mission story due to high amount of hostiles to kill
Just an idea, if you have a "buy packs to get bonus officer shards", it would be neat if we could pick from a list of officers so that we do not just get offerred Transporter patterns
<@&509690795536941056> can you please provide an update on alliance tournaments compensation? You're likely getting sick of me asking but that's sort of the point, would be nice to know what's happening with that and if you plan to extend the store open time
@near saddle @full swan <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>
Can someone please update my server on ascension dates!
Another event that we are blocked from because we are waiting for someone to ascend our server. How many support tickets do I need to send to get an answer!?
We are EU 405
How about including everyone in the event
Amazing Arc Mission planning, where the first thing you're told is that you're meeting Tom Paris in Lorillia... and then your ship is actually sent to Andoria as the destination!
you know nothing about temporal wars, you have to give the wrong information so they can't track you, its common knowledge
Ahh, I see the 'logic' now, in the same vein as killing 34 hostiles to deal with 13 of them! 🙂
Thanks for nothing Scopely, Sincerely, The Low Level Players. You know most games actually want to encourage their new, low level players to grow into satisfied, spending, higher level players. This arc has a new building we can't build, a new faction we can't access, new missions we can't do, new hostiles we can't kill, and a free rare officer we won't qualify for. Why exactly should newer players stick with this game or spend a single penny on it?
The SMS event Janeway challenge took too long for g6 players. It took me 53 kills, and this is common problems for all those sms where the hostile level stopped at 60.
I think developers do not realize G6 is like a new start of the game, requesting much more time for dailies (faction & mining) and additional requesting a high number of kills in the sms events. Overall a pretty bad experience, like the payout for reaching G6 is 2-3h more in game just to do the same stuff as G5. Maybe this explains the number of early G6 quitting the game.
I think the main issue is the content is not fully tested, designers have no real gameplay experience.
"I've got 18 sets of guns pointed at you"
Objective: kill 34 hostiles
🤔
"Meet me in Lorillia"
Objective: is in Andoria
Ah, see they've sucked you in now and your going nowhere 😈
"Code in Invalid" in store for code YOH13 released
YOH7 not working at all. Invalid promo code
Yeah, when will the redemption codes work?
why release the codes in the in-game news if they are not valid (yet)?
Hardly the worst thing about this utter trash they have rolled out.
There really isn't anything special or worth looking for in this arc/faction store as far as i am concerned. Looks like most of the events are "Heroic" too, so less time spent in this game
Can we please use “hell” in game chat? It’s hard to post links or talk about this event - which now uses “hell” in game - because that word is inexplicably censored.
it's in the bible for Christ's sake!
Instead of using 2 ll use 2 capital i”s. They dont censor that
That doesn’t work for links
I go to said systems no hostiles try doing an armada get a partial kill what programmer thought this was good?
can you gift exo comps (1-2 of each) to compliment the directives from the redeem code?
The building SMS and SLB being on different days is not cool.....
Not getting any score for building dti building <@&509690795536941056> also lots of bugs with this new arc. At what point does executive leadership hire a new development team?
since it's not a sms you're waiting on other people to contribute to the score. in this case, an instance milestone, aka the rest of your server
Is it just me or does the amount of wreckage needed to claim TDI credits seem excessive?
That announcement is coming in the next hour or so.
What level is your DTI building? The description says that you get points when you get to level 20.
<@&509690795536941056> can you let Scopley know that I liked the arc-long spend event better than the 2 weekend spend events. It let me progress my buildings and research all month instead of rushing it all into a couple days. Also, with the new 12-hr daily spend events, I could do all of those and still have it could toward the officer recruit. Lots of pluses for the month-long spend, none for just doing it on 2 weekends.
Seriously 2 shards? It’s even got Heroic in the event name 😂
So we can take part in the quality that’s planned for this year can I suggest you increase the number of £100 packs we need to buy each arc to play the game also perhaps look at raising the pack prices to £200 each
Erm anyone else not getting rewards for janeway sms
@full swan maybe you can finally respond to my request?
@full swan can you add 20 Gwen Demarco shards to the Treasury please?
There is no way to get her shards currently
@full swan Thx for the announcement about the Tournaments! One thing I didn’t see though is whether or not unused credits will roll over to the next round. Would be nice to know, thx 👍🖖
they roll over! the tooltip is wrong
they will carry over
all caps
nope
Excellent update, good compensation 👌 thanks!
People between ops 46-49, which ship had the best result for you regarding the krenims? My protector is level locked, by pillum only T5 and my voyager level locked as well. And I'd rather not waste my directives 🥲
You guys decided to name the arc something that we can't even say in game. Brilliant.
Well they named it right…
So, rewards for "ahead of the curve are half of what they were last month. Did the milestones get smaller or is it just the same amount of work for half the reward?
It’s on a curve
this is what an intermediate result looks like when ops61 players have to compete against ops69 players in a bracket.
extremely motivating when you know at the start of the event that you can never reach #1 - no matter how hard you try. and that's not the only example.
"there's no way the new arc could fail harder than the previous one" .................
Even Scoply can't tell the name of the Arc.
scopley hasn't just heard but they have accepted joking of course i hope
We're talking about a company that doesn't allow me to tell people "I took a bite of a sandwich" because bite is censored, and wont let me abbreviate monaveem to mona. However, it will let me call someone a douchebag if I wanted to do so. The censorship engine makes zero sense.
Ironically that same company allows middle finger emojis but not the word that corresponds with it. Absolutely wild company also they don’t consider middle finger emojis to be abuse but using the phrase is!
Simple feedback: Merge the 2 IMS because running 2 makes no sense and will only make it difficult for a server to complete the IMS.
You're also dividing the server which is supposed to work on a common goal to complete the event.
It also doesn't work storywise because it's our common goal to just defeat the Krenim as a whole and not 1 specific type of their assault force.
Echoing what others are saying - something is broken with this arc’s events. 200M NSEA and 100M Tribune with ‘invading entities’ crews and I cannot begin to get to the first milestone for the event. Can BARELY beat a 42 in enough rounds.
nsea isn't useful against them
Am I the only one who feels like the earned loot vs the needed loot is wildly incongruous? This was 6 victories of the highest level I could defeat, and doesn't even get one pull. Just wild.
New grind - worse than the old grinds
Divide your NSEA's power by like 60% or more that's it's actual PVE power outside of mirror space, I'd be amazed if your Tribune did less than 75% of the total damage, you'd be better using a T9 ent or your Pilum over the NSEA
The kind who thought you'd read the release notes I guess, try using the exocomp and suggested crews
the payouts vs the cost of hull loss reminds me of xindi armadas… garbage
Payouts are garbage 6 wins highest I can and can't even pull 1 chest and merge the 2 IMS
its the same 6000 token reward, for the same full pull of an epic officer???
You misnamed the event. It should be 6 years of Scopely.
No it isn’t. It’s the exact same; a full pull of the exact same epic officers.
why not
because the nsea for for mirror hostiles
My NSEA is my most powerful ship. It should be useful. Otherwise, it's just another one trick pony like the Eviserator, the Vindicator, the Disco, and every other gd specialty ship in the game. I'm so done spending money on this game.
Nsea is not a one trick pony. It's a very useful ship, and it's fast
According to ArsenicTouch, it is a one trick pony.
Maybe at his level but for g4 it's a strong combat ship and wipes the floor with anything other than your factions. And mirror stuff is extremely important for your power
I know this. I am a G4 player. But if you read the comment I replied to, ArsenicTouch literally said "because the nsea for for mirror hostiles". He is saying it's a one trick pony. If you have a problem with this, then reply to ArsenicTouch, not me.
Ok bro
New Armadas are trash!
So I can't attack these new 2-ship armada targets without the correct exocomp installed, and you only give us one a day, and they don't last very long. and on top of that you disable the Vindicator's armada ability - literally the one thing it's in the game for
There's no point to doing any of this content
..yep. spent ages doing the missions...then get the building done.
Get all myself worked up for the armadas...then done 5x of them lvl44...
And all i can buy from it was 1.mil klingon rep.
Wow. 🥵🥵 am i missing something?
Yeah, you're supposed to buy faction reputation with it so you can unlock better rewards
How did you only get 1m? I did a single kill and had enough credits to pull 20m rep in one go
I thought this was common knowledge but apparently not 😂
5 static armadas only gave me enough for 1 chest pull.
Of the rep favour in the new faction. 🫣🥴
Are you killing ones that are your ops level? I got like 400 million credits for one kill at 42 ops which got me 20 million rep
I never said that, I said it wasn't useful for the new armadas, it gets no benefits against it. A regular warship will be infinitely more useful, but if it's all you got, it's all you got.
It's a tad better of a one trick than a Lot of the other useless specialty ships like eviscerator or defiant but it's still kinda bad for anything other than mirror u work. It can be off scaled strong but shouldn't matter unless you're way behind on your faction ships and ops progression. Honestly nearly all the specialty ships except maybe talkios and monaveen just....suck. Just different degrees of suckiness
so let me get this right, if I do the right thing and kill only the ones listed in my IMS I'm cutting my rep gain in half as i will only get static or charged (depending on the IMS) loot. Plus the mile stones on the IMS are so far away, we're barely going to make tier 1 anyway, making the decision easy for everyone to abandon this and just work on their own progress.
You need to grind both types to double pull reputation from faction store and the 4 Chests pull is more efficient.
My personal recommendation:
- go static for a full static temporal credits pull
- use the remaining directives for the IMS after event reset (when you got your free exocomp)
- remind yourself that you got 3 more days for the IMS (= directives for 4 more starts).
it's not that bad if you can beat them at your level or slightly above.
yeah I have static so did 5 on the static ones, but if I use the other dirs today on the charged ones because I need it for rep i'm not adding to the IMS
I killed 5 lvl 46 statics, but I got only 2012 wreckage ... ??? I don't understand where is the fun ... only frustration here
feedback anyone ?
No I’m not
so i went to collect the exo's and the second grey'd out after i selected the first, i now have an exo thats no use as i need the other. Why is it designed this way?
I need 470k to pull a single chest. I've run 11 madas and am still nowhere close. This new stuff is awful. Progression is sniffled at an all time low. Boring content made more boring by lack of reasonable progression.
@ashen notch ran 4 armadas and I could make full pull. Something wrong with your tactics.
It's my ops level. The pull costs went up exponentially, but the loot rewards don't increase well enough to scale with costs. Many mid and upper 60s on my server are complaining about the same thing.
I know from ops 63 it increases. I'm 62 BTW. But I'm with just two epics T4/T7. I can kill 5 lvl 60 armadas with 1 hull. I guess with stronger epics I could kill lvl 62.... Two from that is definitely enough for 1 chest at your lvl. The question is how difficult is lvl 62...
So far....... serious meh.
Lost my progress at 11EST on this event.
Doing over 10 of these new armada things should get you at least a lowest chest pull so you can get some rep the amount of stuff needed to do a pull is ridiculous.
The two different events “Charged Krenim” and “Static Krenim” are far too unbalanced. The charged ones are much harder to kill within the 30 rounds. You have 50 rounds to kill the static Krenim. And their abilities are different in my opinion. The static Krenim's ability is better for the player than the charged Krenim's ability. This is a major disadvantage for the players who have the charged Krenim event The first days of the new arc. This really sucks. 😕
Yes, I am aware of the exo and I know you have to activate it after purchasing it but afaik it does not disable the ability completely. And btw you only have 30 rounds to beat the Charged ones not 50.
you realise you're supposed to use the exo to disable their ability right?
Please remove Threat Reduction from the BP event rotation. They're both dead loops that nobody likes doing, with no possibility of punching up due to warp range and ops locking. Just let these 2 stupid loops die in peace and replace them with something people actually need.
This "squeeze" is just setting you up for next month's fix...weather that be a ship or a research or artifact.
For this new DTI faction, the grind vs rewards is very unballanced and needs to be re-evaluated. Way to much grind for the tiny amount of rewards you get.
Yeah like HighTone said, that's the point. They'll sell you the solution next month. This is what they always do, and as long as people keep spending $100 on a new ship every other month it'll keep happening.
When do territories reset? When does next season start?
Based on the roadmap preview i would say 100% a ship that has revanant style tiering. The Server IMS scoring is yet again wildly unrealistic. My server is not even to the first tier yet and its 10x that in points to finish the IMS and we have 3 days. Completely unrealistic
Gosh! Really? You'd think that they could at least include 1 shard, maybe 2 of Neelix, Torres and Kim for their respective personal SMS events!
I would like to thank the devs again for testing their events before publishing.. dominion space spawns 8 hostiles at a time for 50 players in the SAME SYSTEM What should take 10 minutes is going to take an hour and 10000 extra clicks
@uneven dome Was there any official announcement about AT credits carry over or not for next AT?
they carry over
There is already a 100 pack available that is the dti building
you need to put out a list of recomended crews for these new enemies
I foresee a Temporal Dreadnought being released since it's in the new cover art (lower left).
My money is on the USS Relativity.
what a stupid arc there are no 62 armadas in 62 system so i cant do nothing bc 64 can kill maybe in 10000 rounds and 60 give me 1/5 loot what 62 so no way i can get even a single pull you in scopely obviously don't have brain there should be static number of 62 armadas and 64 not that if you kill 62 they will just be none .same stupid thing like nodes in systems when from ore i get crystal or gas it should be always set this node need to be ore and cluster next to it crystal etc
Please don't crosspost and tho there are fewer 62s, they are showing in my game:
I'll check with the team to see if the respawn times are longer...
it seems to be more of a ratio issue @full swan there seems to be more 64's compared to 62's and when they all die 64's may respawn in their place?
Was excited for the event, new crews, hostiles etc. The lack of directives is very unbalanced (Perhaps 50 directices per launch or a refund of 25 directives per survival) - The lack of exos is unbalanced (Credits Ex borg for example should allow you to but extra) - The 21 minute exo time is foolish (should just be an hour) - The credit exachange for Static - Charged is locked behind tiers of rep (so because ive been sent after charged hostiles i cant get more building upgrade materials, as a balancing i should at least be able to get directives not a tiny ammount of ex borg creds.. - Ive been fine with hostile difficulty but i know plenty of players who are struggling - The IMS is unnatainable we havent even got the first milestone as a server (so will miss out on loads of loot) - Overall balancing is really required.
Yeah. Im hearing that. Going to raise it.
Noticed that earlier too.. thank you
I don't think the IMS is unattainble; I do think it's scoring. It hasn't budged in day. We are currently at about 7.5M points total. Based on what the upper G6 players get per win that seems highly unlikely.
Could well be scoring issue. Ours has only just budged to about 8M too. A few players have allegedly been scorring with the wrong hostile type from what ive heard too. So all the more confusing 😅.
There's a fair amount of G6 players actively participating in the IMS on my server, some whales spending big to do so, and we have just barely passed the 1st milestone. It's scoring, it's just horribly unobtainable... like someone said earlier, the entire arc is balanced poorly. Not enough free directives to get loot. Not enough loot from madas to buy anything in the store even if you got more directives. In short, progression is stiffled at every turn in DTI. It simply isn't fun, and people have already become apathetic to this arc in my server (as well as others from what I see here)
@full swan little feedback for the DTI faction store, the loot from the invaders can only be used on a single thing each, change those to the temporal credits, much more useful information.
and by change i mean the display at the top for currency amounts
Makes sense to me. Will raise.
Is there a specific reason that Scopely has bundled OPs 50s in with 56s on the RSLB?
I know APAC is a smaller region but surely we can put together at least a couple of RSLB of just 50s or even 50-52s instead of putting us up against players with literally double our power and G5 ships...
are you serious?
u forgot u can only get DTI security cards to upgrade the building using static credits, my IMS is making me do charged
insanity
Max Titan Buff for 50 Minutes - I want that aswell (and just accelerate the armadas)
I have managed DTI- building upgraded to level 14 and enough directives for 12 of the "invading entities" from free sources since the arc started. Where are you all getting imbalanced sourcing from? I mean you think it would be fair to give you something for free that others are paying good money for, which is the ability to dominate their sms, SLB?
The Krenim event scoring seems to have frozen. I just completed 5 level 52 charged Krenim armadas. I won each one with a single launch. Not 1 iof the 5 were credited to my event sms nor slb score although I have a winning battle report for each 1. I started having problems with the Krenim disbanding by themselves yesterday and sent in a trouble report via that chat feature and Scopely product support hasn't even looked at it after a day and a half. Maybe they're on vacation.
slb only scores once on your best round, want a higher score you need to do more damage
from what I've seen, this month looks like that scene in dazed and confused where the dad has found out about the party, opens the front door and the kid looks at him and says, "Um, no." then turns and runs away.
@molten marlin Since none of my 5 Armadas have their score processed since the SNS didn't show that they were launched despite having a successful battle report for each, how can I have ANY confidence in the SLB results. Support appears to be out on vacation since no one us responding for a day and a half. Nearly 2 days on the first bug I reported let alone this. Unplayable if scores cannot be trusted!!!
Also seeing this. After running them fine on Tuesday I ran two yesterday that didn’t count towards the SMS.
New ARC scoring not to be trusted. I'll ve verifying every armada going forward and reporting discrepancies and suggest all do the same. Support already is unresponsive and this may bury them,
Krenim invaders are too hard to kill. Two ships, exo buff, Nesmith with synergy on one, damage crew on other, all "opponent" officers, and can still only kill a third of a lvl 42 invader. Whole arc is more or less irrelevant.
how was the ims selected? charged is at 5mio points and static at 18mio, seems quite unfair
Why doesn't Scopely product support respond to issues posted to them. I opened a support chat 2 days ago and they haven't even looked at it let alone resolve the problem!!!
Feedback, I’m ops 63 and after a few runs and seeing how ridiculous the drop rates are for basically everything needed in this new arc, it’s a hard pass from me. I won’t be spending on any of this new nonsense.
Done today a lvl 62 armada. Destroyed it and it is enough for a full pull. Definitely doable. Just need to focus on building level and proper crew.
Milestones seem a bit unrealistic
I wonder how they came up with the idea of having OPS61+ compete against OPS70 for this Krenim Regional SLB (other SLBs are also like this).
What kind of balancing is that? I mean, how can you ever have a chance of a halfway decent result there?
This can't work at all and is unfair, as the result is not based on “performance”, but is mainly due to the bracket. Really disappointing!
I’ve make a mistake again! I’ve selected the wrong kind of exo (and entities) for specific credits. Exchange the symbols!
Update on my earlier ‘I used 300M combined power ship and cannot beat a lvl 50 armada.’ I followed the ‘help’ article to the T. I lasted a couple more rounds but am no where near being able to beat a level 50…Kren-mada? What do we call these hell themed…oh Scopely made us experience a year of hell in a week…..well played?
Are you hitting Charged or Static? Do you have the appropriate Exo activated? How many rounds are you going? What crew are you using? What buffs did you use?
As an OPs 50 myself I beat multiple 52s in a row so it’s certainly possible based on all the above factors. Need more info if you want assistance.
Thank you. Obviously, those are easy to miss. Followed to a t. Static with right xcom. Recommend crews. FC Lorca. Max research for a G4 locked server. Max ships without buying G5 mats (because thank you Greedly for changing the daily so there’s no opportunity to grind any G5 on a G4 locked server).
so instead of just gating these new entities with directives, which has been the standard for 'things that look, act, behave, and taste" like an armada, now we're adding an exo into it that can only be acquired free at a rate of once per day? why not go full derp and add a travel token into it while you are at it? the exos should have been a research favor like the previous stupid new faction loops.
this entire arc looks like it will suck even worse than 73.
Happy for any help. Glad you found more success. Hit static with the static xcom. Used FC Lorca and crews they recommended in the article (PM+Dajash and Nesmith+Demarco+Lorca). Blew up in round 29 after dealing about 20% hull damage to the target.
As an example, I used:
Ship A - Nesmith/Demarco/Khan
Ship B - Tolra/Toli/Byr
As much below decks as you can fit (Burning/Hull breach/Morale/etc)
Cerritos x 2 and Max Fort
The Cerritos boost and max Fort make a huge difference
exo duration and respawn rate don't fit 😡😡😡
no static 62 respawning for an hour now!
the exo duration might be ok if you know what to hit, prepare for it and have enough targets - but if you fail, and have to check logs to improve or if targets aren't respawning it's a double slab in the face having to wait another day for another exo!
With a longer exo duration respawn rate still is a major problem.
Please fix both! Longer exo duration while there should be at least 2 krenims of each lvl of both kinds in the system!!!
it happens
This has prob mean mentioned but I just read this in disbelief "They are a unique type of hostile requiring specialized crews; Armada crews won’t work. " er Armada Crews DO work.
except those didn't work. except for 5
just because you killed them doesn't mean those officers do anything
I see looking at the battle log, its really well explained as usual
Dopely at it again... Unrealistic
Until the "new ship" appears for 99.99 to allow you to do it a lot quicker.
Is this scoring wrong or was it designed improperly? I have not seen one screen shot of a server coming clsoe to completeing the Charged IMS.
Complete we can't even get to the first milestone
What crew and ships you use?
Gorn event should give you something else if you already have the ship
gorn event goes away once you pull a full set of bps
regardless if you unlocked it already
<@&509690795536941056> the upgrade Fleet Commander SMS in the daily events is not calculating. Upgraded each of the 3 deadlock abilities on FC Janeway and no progress on the SMS occurred .
only sloan and lorca will score for that, otherwise you need to refine unc or spend rare
T7 Rota, T4 DD. One with Nesmith full synegry (Gwen is one of them). Other one with Tolra+Toli+Georgiou. BD Torres, Kim, Parris, Pic Hugh, Odo etc.
That makes sense, wish it said that.
Could have sworn the past few worked when I upgraded skills on Janeway. But it might have been Sloan or Lorca though
Also many of janeway skills need rare skill points so they score and it’s pretty easy to finish the sms that way as it only takes 3 rare skill points to finish.
This new arc and the rewards from the Bp are 💩
the rewards from the bp are great, the choice rewards are well received
Cheers - 2 redeems. Jeers- 2nd too late to help.
<@&509690795536941056> You guys literally missed ALL of the materials for the Harry Kim challenge for ops 60. The previous 2 had gas and ore. Where’s our crystal??
As omicron and I discussed over in DJz discord, G6 got ops-appropriate amounts of G6 crystal only, but it seems as if G5 and lower crystal rewards were left out of this event. As said above, the prior ore and gas events were fine. 🙂
Apologies if it’s already been noticed and raised
spawn rate timers on these new stupid not mada madas need to be lowered. a lot. asap considering this little 2 day taste nonsense exo.
<@&509690795536941056> DTIMAX code on website showed items but didn’t deliver ingame
Maybe try putting it in again?
Think I had a similar issue. You didn't see the exo running?
IMS event is a total bust, you release new content and only expect us to only focus on one hostile, half the faction loop, this is something that could be done on week two or three, if not the next month. Let us build up to it and to that the rewards should be auto completed this time around
Running for me, but not seeing the effects like I thought I would. Is there a blog post announcing it? Should be a significant boost to officer stats at least right? I wasn't keen on using directives or exocomps if they're not going to work correctly. Not complaining, just advising.
Promo code seems to not work, I’m OP’s 46