💬-general-feedback

[sand talon]

i never said anything about installing it back on 😛

[dire fern]

Wish I hadn’t bothered @sand talon 😂😂

[sand talon]

for a brief moment you had zero lag

[dire fern]

The lag is not the problem today for once … obviously it’s a sign for me to stop playing😂

[sand talon]

when the lag stops i know the game is about to crash 😄

[dense prawn]

alliance chat not working, only showing armada notifications. this a known bug now?

[sand talon]

an ignored one for sure

[elder plover]

Wouldn't tournaments store be faster, if assets were optimized? Two different graphics are loading for officers, changes while scrolling through (see SNW Kirk on screenshots)

[unreal zenith]

https://klipy.com/gifs/itll-be-fine-its-fine

[boreal ferry]

nah the game had a bug a few years back that was legit giving ppl seizures, was fun time for epileptics, esp when the CM at the time joked around about it

[cyan isle]

I sent a screen shot of our botter, admitting he bots. S💩pley did nothing. Probably worst company in history

[true patio]

youre telling me that this pictured is worth 19.99$ a week?

[twin tendon]

nothing in stfc is worth even a cent

[mental minnow]

who would spend $ on a game they don’t/can’t/won’t fix?

[slender monolith]

People who are lucky and have few, or no, issues? 🤷‍♂️

[dull carbon]

The game today is barely playable, going from yellow to red wifi, restarting doesn't help.

[keen loom]

Absolutely ridiculous a company of Scopley’s size and revenue can’t figure out lag.

Let me just state: it’s you Scopley. NOT the players.

Figure it out or close up shop.

[dull carbon]

I know they "give us compensation" I would rather play the game without lag than get "free stuff"

Forgot about restarting the game 3+ times just so I can mine

[solar sun]

Lazy Sunday I see..... or did the guy in charge of the Sunday events call in sick and the Saturday guy had to stay in to cover and he decided to run the same event cause that's all he knows?

[finite mural]

is intended

[remote jolt]

Avec toutes ces erreurs d'affichage, je me réjouis déjà des incursions infinies ....

[fluid mist]

oh they're closing up shop just not before they get more money from those that can't stop spending for a broken game is all once the money stops game will be in maintenance mode within days just watch. Only thing keeping those game going is those that cant stop spendinggame should have ending around 2yrs ago when quality over quantity was promised and broken every month afterwards.

[solar sun]

Here's another feedback about the New Incursion format... It's Stupid and here's a few reasons.
1- 12 hours on a Saturday during Spring time with NHL playoffs = Many players will spend time outside or watching NHL playoffs all day with friends and won't log in. With the old 24 hour format players could log in later at night after a nice spring day out or after a big day of NHL hockey and beer with friends.

2- Making players spend armada directives with high risk of pvp for a 7 day research speed up after most of the players spent most of Incursion speeding up researches for the research ALB.... is not really a big prize worth wasting armada directives

3- Old Incursion format was good. The only thing missing was a good PVE ALB/SLB with great reward vs the Texas Hostiles so people would have to drop their shield to score points.... The need a great reward is needed to get people to actively grind, the scoring mechanic doesn't matter, all Texas hostile could be worth the same amount of points regardless of the level so players would have many systems to PVE grind for ALB SLB and get away from pvp players hunting them. The goal is to get more people to drop shield to participate in SLB ALB and also give more raiding opportunities. I would have given this little adjustment a chance before changing the whole thing.... but what do I know.

[austere valley]

I stopped participating, the 12h window is not enough, got real life to live

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> pop up spam. every time i log back into game. i shall apply this logic here

[tropic crown]

I have to restart the game because:

1. stuck in combat with hostile
2. stuck in combat with armada
3. loading screen froze up
4. ship stuck warping into system
5. ship stuck warping out of system
6. click on the 1001 things I need to claim game keeps locking up.
7. Waves crash
8. trying to claim comp chest for the latest nightmare from Scopley.
9. ship says it on a mining node but it’s not.
10. won’t let me put a ship on a node, why….don’t know
11. I could keep going but Scopley clearly doesn’t care.

[balmy dew]

i hope the reroll system for the next alliance tourny does not suck.. over 100+ rerolls (and still havnt seen the task) to try and get a single task is just stupid as hell

[fluid mist]

I agree when you factor in an 8 hour work day(even if you can have a little time to play during work) and family time and or sleeping 12hr incursion just isn't right it cuts off at least half your playerbase just by law of averages. and with those thats left is it mostly pvp'ers or pve'ers and with raiding basically null and void the pve crew ain't gonna risk dropping shields just to get resources for a few moments because people almost always come back fast when hit since covid started raiding needs to be much much faster. But what do we know we're only the loyal customers who've stayed here through the years paying or not and trying to make this game better so you can make billions and
billions in the years to come guess our opinions and suggestions have no relevance right. Last few parts weren't towards you but to scopley even though they never pay attention to half the good stuff in here unless they can make it into a pack

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> now a popup after i exited one of the event buckets

[cold valve]

I have to say that the support currently is insanely badly managed! All you get is the automated message saying you haven't heard from the client, but I haven't heard a single word on my ticket. It is extremely bad form to so totally neglect the people who depend on your help.

[gentle dagger]

Lag for claiming anything just keeps getting longer...

[jolly flame]

Yet again, Scopley continue to announce events…when you can’t even play the base game in an acceptable manner…

https://tenor.com/view/sml-mr-gooman-la-la-la-im-not-listening-ignoring-not-listening-gif-4409778107988410033

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> popup after help assist

[haughty umbra]

Are outposts broke or officers broken? Asking for a friend

[hollow glade]

No need to call for a boycott, when the numbers last came out the game had tanked HARD. That's why they are desperately trying to get old quitters back.

[vivid ginkgo]

and they will call it a success. not realizing that all those "new players" are just level 1 alts so players got the rewards. we have what feels like hundreds new ops 1 bases everywhere

[hollow glade]

1.2/5 Trustpilot score after buying thousands of fake 5 star reviews 😄

[keen loom]

The only problem is the cheese is still old and moldy. No one wants any.

Connor and crew have done fantastic work running the game into the ground.

[cosmic knoll]

so it went from 0.2 to 1.2? lol

[hollow glade]

Yeah, reaching absolute zero temperature is very hard, almost impossible with current technology. But Scopely almost did it, with reviews!

[cosmic knoll]

its going back down after i post a 0 star ... for these popups

[balmy shadow]

but you have to buy the mats for the new building coming out because you'll need it to stop some bs mechanic nothing else can deal with or else you'll be left behind from your peers!

[hoary portal]

DO one of the following:

1. Change the Kill Xindi AT task descriptions so that it states Caelor instead of Selethal, and change the coding of the tasks so the Reptilian Xindi in Selethal, New Xindus, and Kertoria no longer count towards the task.

OR

2. Change the coding of the task to count Aquatics in Selethal, New Xindus, and Kertoria as kills for the task.

OR

3. Change the description to plainly state that the Aquatics do not count, only the Reptilians count.

[vivid ginkgo]

they will do neither
since next AT will be the sequel = STFC AT: the search for the last money pit

[wooden spire]

A whole 9 words in response to you. Blessed you must be. 😏

[hoary portal]

IKR?

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> popup whilst doing nothing except closing the chat box

[fluid mist]

you actually think they can change the code that's cute they can't even fix 99% of bugs without changing code but by removing it they can't change it

[hoary portal]

Had to try...the sun shines on a dog's butt every once in a while...thought maybe I'd get lucky.

[prime arrow]

That Interim events calendar looks quite crowded for what’s supposed to be an “interim”.

[grave hawk]

There's only one way to effectively get the changes that we all want. I've already gone that route. Everybody needs to do it. One of two things will happen, it will get better or it will shut down. Either way, we win.

[grave hawk]

Everybody would be on board with that. Not sure why the company doesn't put any effort into making that happen.

[fluid mist]

doesn't hurt to try what hurts is to put your faith in anything they say. Unfortunately its more of a prove it then we might start believing you relationship the customers have with scopley lol

[fluid mist]

dont worry I'm sure game will crash for at least 12hrs during the interim events so there's that lol

[fluid mist]

if they company really wants our money and lots of it and players to come back to the game with their money it's a very simple thing to do and we've already told them the solution they just have to actually do it. So far it's been almost a year since the big exodus and nothing has changed let's see if they start to get the clue soon.

[pulsar reef]

They have lied to us. They have swindled us, they have tried to make us feel like our voice matters when it has not. If they want to earn our trust back, its time to restructure the upper management as in, its time to get rid of them and find ones that actually like Star Trek as an IP and doesn't need foreign material to contaminate this game any further. They need the passion for Star Trek to return to this game. Currencies need to be simplified, inventory decluttered. All the bugs ACTUALLY get fixed instead of lying through their teeth about it. We got told they have more people fixing this game and its so bad I can't even clear my cache, it actually BREAKS the game more than fixes it. You've made this game so complex it can't support itself. You've got a bunch of monkeys coding this game now and its very evident they do not know what they are doing anymore. You need to get the ones that actually care come back and BE IN CHARGE instead of the money grubbing lunatics that have the reigns now.

Oh and <@&509690795536941056> Those animations that cost the company money we pay into this game, are a slap in the face to this community and promoting them is just like saying "We have the money to fix the bugs but instead we are going to make these animations to distract you from the fact we don't really care about this game anymore and we'll misuse the money and trust we the community have placed in the coders of this game to fix it and make it fun again. Read the writing on the wall and continued drop in money this game is experincing and get this ship back on course instead of releasing all this nonsense like animated shorts and all these contests, like that borg cpu give away you held back then, its our money that we invested in this game in hopes you fix it, you are not doing that!"

[keen escarp]

Don't worry man, they'll make a video soon where they're gonna congratulate themselves and say they listened to the player base.

[pulsar reef]

It'll cost 25,000 USD to produce too

[keen escarp]

Of course! They need to pay their super useful GM and CM.

[cobalt plume]

i quit around this time last year for just a few months and still haven't even been able to get back into it...so overwhelming

[keen escarp]

Honestly you don't miss anything. Copy pasted bugged events and more paywalls.

[cobalt plume]

so i hear...I keept up with my server people still when i can...it's a shame.

[sudden anchor]

"April 2026 Interim Event Schedule | Star Trek Fleet Command by Scopely
Commanders, Below is the interim event schedule beginning April 20th, 2026"

Is it more expensive if you made it longer, separate the events for below G5 and above😃 It's harder to read with that schedule placing

[marble holly]

<@&509690795536941056> Why is there ALWAYS lag at midnight reset???? S56.

[narrow loom]

I don't think alliance contributions are coun ting properly since reset...

Update... It seems it was just lag, tho that video setup was at least 10 minutes after it still hadn't updated, so do not dismiss as "solved"

[fast anvil]

not just your server, its all servers

[naive peak]

I’ve been bored on the FarmVille server (199) and it’s super buggy, so I thought ‘maybe it’s not so bad on the newest server plus I can pew pew’ and started a new account…

HOLY GUACAMOLE its genuinely impossible to play, no wonder they’re trying to get us to bring people back and not get new players.

• No 24h chest claim so can’t complete dailies (which means not getting 7 & 30 day chests)
• Can’t claim most of the field training it’s loading circle of death… meaning you can’t progress…
• Glitches for mining nodes, once you get off one you can’t mine again unless you recall
• Ship build errors
• Randomly kicked
• AC doesn’t work even with clearing localization
• Lag is still epic…

It’s hilarious, genuinely.

[fast anvil]

my biggest gripe is that the claim all button is syndicate locked(my alt is ops 16 now, started 2 days ago). in the current world where time is scarce, who is gonna play a game where claiming stuff is gonna take 15mins, and thats with 1/10 of the stuff unlocked

[rancid smelt]

Anyone noticed missing items.
I lost 30k uncommon, rare Ex Borg credits and around same with Pic huge Shards. This happens the last week.
I give up writing to scopley as they don’t help and want screen shots for everything.

[storm stag]

nor has the lag issues been fixed

[raven bay]

Thanks for making the V'ger impossible for me to kill now.....really helpful. 😕

[keen loom]

Not impossible. Just buy that ship ><

[pallid hemlock]

Same here. It's almost impossible to earn points by actively participating in events anymore. Almost every ship isn't where it's supposed to be, and you just get an error message. Instead of constantly coming up with new features, they should really focus on fixing all these bugs.

[river knoll]

PLEASE do something about the lag. It’s becoming unplayable. Today I couldn’t mine transogen because the mining buttons was greyed out. Ships are being repaired then showing as still destroyed. That’s why people are leaving more than anything else.

[torpid cargo]

Its great to spend 45 mins restarting the game and watching the circle spin to just open chest, much less actually playing the game. My play time on here has gone from a few hours a day to maybe 20 mins if I can stand it. Between the lag, glitches, and stuff that just doesnt work, hitting the "Claim All" button just to have to claim everything individually, Waves not working, the Gs31 beam taking too long, the stuck hostiles, the MU is just all screwed up latey, its hard/impossible for me to become immersed in the Fleet Command world. Far cry from just a year ago, when I looked forward to each relase and spend 3 hours a day playing. And at that time I also SPENT money on the game.

[boreal kernel]

Server Merges - while I understand the need for merges, i disagree with merging the newer servers with the very old ones. Merging 710 with 76 makes no sense at all. It would make far more sense to merge with a server of similar age to ours.

[dreamy depot]

its new gamba mechanic, u click something and every click is a 50/50 roll if its gonna do anything or is your game gonan freeze and you have to restart

[karmic meadow]

Your Monday supply drops need major tweaking. G6 players do not give a fluff about 3 and 4 star mats. We can about 6 star mats and sigma... change the drops to be more ops focused...

[waxen ermine]

Who comes up with such a dumb UI? Give us sliders and show us how many tokens we have!

[rare vale]

Supply drop needs to include ship parts as well. Mats have become easier to come by, while ship parts pulls continue to be woefully inadequate.

[rare vale]

Why ask for a useful QoL improvement when you can ask for something useless like research name searching?

The fact that sliders are not standard upon content release is a sign of how clueless devs at Scopely are.

[north dune]

Like clockwork.. event reset and lag o clock

[calm barn]

gee... I'm looking forward to the bucket_interim_specialoperations quest line...

[timber root]

Event 1: spend SMS/SLB
Event 2: spend SMS/SLB
Event 3: spend SMS/SLB
Event 4: spend SMS/SLB
Event 5: spend SMS/SLB

<@&509690795536941056> Please explain to us how this is a "new" event ?

[chrome elm]

if you ain’t spending, you ain’t playing🤣

[timber root]

Well, if I ain't playing, I ain't spending too 😛

[remote jolt]

Erreur d'affichage et vso qui ne font pas ce qu'on leur demande, problèmes toujours pas résolus !!! Ca va être top, l'incursion infinie.....

[rich elm]

Looks like they scrapped CotA to somehow turn it into something worse.

[remote jolt]

Nouvelle invention de Scopely. Le "classement au classement". Donc, si je comprends bien, on doit se classer pour savoir à quel niveau du classement on est, au classement ? Ne lâcher rien, vous êtes bons 🤪

[modern robin]

Events are lagging Like hell

[gloomy spear]

More daily lag

[cyan horizon]

Why 401 server is again on bye in Incursion (2nd time in a row) ??? This is very unfair.

[gusty notch]

The lag in this game is makeing harder to play every day, please TRY to FIX this

[umbral gull]

the amount of players quitting on my server from all the things ignored by devs is sad

[tacit needle]

Why in the world is scopely waisting money on these videos. They offer no insight and are pointless

[quick gale]

Anybody know when this game gets out of BETA?

[austere geode]

I used the claim ''all'' for the 13 ships I have archived. I thought the claim all buttom would do just that. A few hours later I see the archive still has a claim to be done.Turns out the mantis was not claimed. Possibly this may help in future : Maybe if you actually know the origins of the word maybe your game mechanics would improve.
all(adj./adv.)
Old English eall "every, entire, the whole quantity of" (adj.), "fully, wholly, entirely" (adv.), from Proto-Germanic *alnaz (source also of Old Frisian, Old High German al; German all, alle; Old Norse allr; Gothic alls), with no certain connection outside Germanic. As a noun, in Old English, "all that is, everything."

[balmy iris]

The game is broken but we have an animated short with Nana Visitor 🥳

[hybrid lake]

yip , dont fix the game, it is better to waste the time with this B$

[keen loom]

Does this “Lost and found” short have anything to do with stabilization and performance?

If not - no one is interested.

Figure it out and stop doing junk to amuse yourself.

[untold laurel]

Can someone actually build a support system that gets a reply before the events being reported on are over? The amount of time between support requests and replies is friggin embarrassing. Why even pretend to have it?

[finite ruin]

Scopely has taken the best thing on the internet since world of warcraft and destroyed it almost completely. They are merging servers cus they are bleeding money and customers. Fix the game fix the complaints. Stop riding the short bus and get ahold of this before bankruptcy.

[frigid geode]

CoW Restart ... Please rest assured that all progress made so far will be accounted for, and we’ll share further details shortly.
Accountet for what?

[wicked olive]

they have looked into... no one knows where they are looking in. for sure it's not the game

[signal anvil]

Probably rinse and repeat since they had to cancel the last Incursions. Scopely being Scopely.

[wicked olive]

Serrver 157 is laggy as hell.... over 10 seconds to see something.

But why bother with the game, the bugs, the lag, and everything else when you can release a comic short film? That's obviously a thousand times more important than the game.

[fluid mist]

they dont make enough to get it outta beta that and they broke it beyond repair

[raven bay]

I'm sure that's their intent.

[frigid geode]

CoW Restart ... Please rest assured that all progress made so far will be accounted for, and we’ll share further details shortly.
And ... will we ever get that further details?

[tropic crown]

How do you mess up CoW? It’s not like it’s new. You guys need to figure out what ever is going wrong over there and fast. This game is on life support already you can’t afford to keep having all these issues

[wooden spire]

Why are no team members commenting on the large number of complaints of lag and bugs? I’ve never seen it this bad. Why the silence hmmm?

[keen loom]

I don’t know how much more asleep at the wheel Scopley employees can be and maintain employment.

[wooden spire]

I agree. The silence, however, is a little unusual.

No acknowledgement of the worsening lag issues and the guff about it being looked into. Nor the increased number of bugs which has reached absurdity now.

They know something and aren’t permitted to say, that’s my take on it.

[untold laurel]

They probably determined it would cost more to fix the bugs than they are currently making on it, hence why they moved to running a half dozen paid events at once. Not looking good for the future of this game.

[signal anvil]

Scopely would reply that they are different teams. The fact is they’re still choosing to do these short vids instead of putting the money into the teams responsible for fixing the game. If that’s even possible at this point.

[frank stag]

@signal anvilIt's all about looking good to the outsider just to get them to download...doesn't matter if they stay they have that "NEW" player to show the board how great they are

[vestal pebble]

This is not a bug, if you used your mantis ability and the cap has been freed you are allowed to claim again same thing if you reach cap you allowed to claim again.

[keen escarp]

Good afternoon <@&509690795536941056> !
I gotta say I feel a bit lost. The game is barely playable, lag is atrocious for everything (hostiles fighting, hostiles queuing, armadas, repair function, GS31 beam...), there are bugs that are not fixed for weeks and even months, prices are increasing as hell when rewards are decreasing like hairs on Picard's head and... you are working and releasing a short movie?!
I'm sorry, I may don't understand but I'm pretty sure this is not what I'm paying for. Is it possible to get a refund for my Battle Pass? I have not signed for this AI slop low quality content.
Thank you.

[signal anvil]

Agree

[ocean bridge]

Und ich komme seit gestern nicht mehr ins game

[ocean bridge]

No CM answered and no answer for New Tickets for ober 24h...🤬

[humble lotus]

They don’t care as long as they hit their profit margins. Just saying 😬

[knotty gale]

The lag so bad maybe they haven't gotten any complaints yet🤷‍♂️

[frank stag]

@humble lotusHitting thier profit margins is fine with me if they are actually providing a decent quality product and show even the smallest appreciation for the players (Which clearly from this thread, that they do not). We have statements from SCOPLEY about hearing us but does it show? Is there anyone in the community that believes the game is better than when the promises to improve was made?

[swift steppe]

??

So You officially can't get support without giving out credit card info now???

[finite mural]

[e-mail]

[untold laurel]

Why do you claim we will get a response within 12-24 hr on tickets when I’ve never once had you meet that timeline? Your support is a joke. Your <@&509690795536941056> reps pretend they want to help but then stop responding. Is the intent to just not support this game?

[oak ether]

yall need to increase the frequency of exile loot ships

[untold laurel]

hey, why don't you run an event where alliances get rewards when people quit the game? Probably get better traction than an event trying to convince people to come back and deal with this BS

[weary elm]

Has this comp chest been issued to Admirals yet? <@&509690795536941056>

[wind prism]

The fact that you can’t even launch cow without issues, just shows the level of incompetence. How’s that for feedback?

[fluid mist]

and you want us to try and get people to return when ya can't even run an event thats 6yrs old

[dense prawn]

maybe the enter duration field lagged out, like everything else today

[vagrant juniper]

Erstkontakt da war ein Event mit so marken farmen immer 100 gelbe zu blau tauschen was wievwo tauschen wir diese nun ? Oder sparen wir diese fürs jahr 2064 im 05.04 dann

[knotty gale]

And the comp chest is broken too🤣

[umbral silo]

Can I make a suggestion that whenever Zephrin Cochran is assigned as captain of a ship, the song Oobey Doobey plays, and whenever the phoenix skin is applied and the ship is in use the song Magic Carpet Ride plays 🤣🤣

[knotty gale]

With all the lag all you would here is bzzzzzzzzzzzz😂

[umbral silo]

Well then scopely needs to really fix the lag because that would be awesome 🤣

[glacial spruce]

Scopely can't afford to keep the game running. You think they can afford the licensing for those songs?

How about we get audio of Bones saying, "It's dead Jim," everytime the game crashes.

[umbral silo]

Because then my phone would never stop saying it’s dead Jim, and I’d have to explain it to my wife. It would be a whole thing. Best to forget all of it 🤣

[lusty ibex]

Been a known bug for weeks getting worse every day.
Amazing how they don’t care about it but hey we get exocomps that can be deployed on ships outside of dock instead…

[fathom willow]

really great help from support for this ticket regarding an alliance tournament task being accepted I had not intended to (not sure what happened)

[dense prawn]

cant even log in on PC today, been stuck like this for 15 mins so far <@&509690795536941056>

[ocean bridge]

Still the same since Sunday and no reaction and no answer.... Ticket is open...but nothing

[boreal kernel]

Merging one of the newest servers 710 with one of the oldest servers 76 is not fair to either server. It would have made more sense to merge 710 with 709 or 711.

[vague grotto]

Happy "what are they going to break today" day guys n gals

[magic dove]

Is there still a error-free content? 🤔

[slate chasm]

The errors are the content at this point

[scarlet zinc]

Well iOS has been working for the past few weeks. Android users are suffering.

So I guess it’s iOS broken for this Maintenance and Android working. A swap until we all complain again …

Swings and Roundabouts essentially 😆

[unreal gyro]

<@&509690795536941056>
Now what? Which time zone r u guys operating in?

All I get 2hr early, just crashed less than 5min ago.

Back now. 14min hiccup?

Why is Disc acting so weird?

[topaz smelt]

I made a desealing rod last month, went to use it last night and the rod has vanished. I read online they expire but I saw no timer on it or anything?

[finite mural]

only good for the treasury you make it

contact support to see if they'll replace it #👽-how-to-contact-support

[quasi silo]

Couldn't even do the comp chest right, I'm the admiral but the comp chest went to a randomly selected alliance member 🤣🤣🤣
#⭐-official-announcements message

[prisma crag]

I didn't get it either, so where to find it now?

[rough niche]

What de ??

Where did that hat come from?

What next?

Something serious maybe ?

[rough niche]

Ok. No more sillyness for today.

Shes going for "The picard look"

[grizzled topaz]

i swear all the development ressources go into her hats

[nova sierra]

Psssst.... there are 4 chats.... can ya migrate the maintenance in X time across the chats? Common sense and this game are night and day....

[odd brook]

looks like a fallout npc conversation?

[vivid nebula]

If you make a rod it has to be used for the treasury that’s on, they do not carry over. Been widely known since treasuries started. You can always plead to support and they might sort it for you

[twin cliff]

i've been waiting for 4 days and have yet to get any response from my support ticket. What is going on??

[finite mural]

dm the ticket number and what it's about

[twin cliff]

sent

[frigid geode]

What about removing the stupid option to assemble a rod in the recruit tab?

ahhh ... no money ... more tickets and annoyed players

[unreal zenith]

did they even try to fix anything with this maintenance... still no ac chat

18 restarts to get ac chat to work

https://klipy.com/gifs/record-gerri-scotti

[wild hearth]

I see that we can't even afford to have "maintenance has started / ended" announcements in Discord anymore. Hard times are indeed upon us.

[naive peak]

One of the fundamentals of the game is the community, that’s what has kept us here despite the epic failures. Yet here we are with AC bugged out constantly… ruined the one thing keeping players on the game. G6 players are leaving the game, the latest chaos is the last straw for many. Enough is enough - FIX IT

[opal orchid]

Umm, what happened to Maverick folder in events?

[finite mural]

leaderboard was moved to the task tab

has it's own icon

[serene dragon]

Collections seem to be taking forever S178.

[tulip whale]

So now people need to collect the rewards themself? Completeing a milestone at the night of the last day will cause many to miss out. From the tasks

[chrome elm]

this is new…

displayed on a couple of the other refineries too

[vivid hatch]

blame your dial-up connection 😬

[wild hearth]

Removing Maverick tasks from Events is a magnificent step backwards in quality of life. Well done to whoever made that decision

[chrome elm]

so i have to sign on to my home wifi even if im on my phone? lmfao

[pallid hemlock]

I have no idea what they did, but it definitely didn't improve performance or fix any bugs

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> any news on bug fixes like:

alliance rewards anonymous gift claim?

help all button refusing to go away (stuck on 1 help request)?

mantis comp (its been 3 years)?

[hollow pike]

Probably safe to assume at this point that mantis comp isn’t coming.

[civic haven]

No in-game blog post or announcement re: update/new arc?

[hollow pike]

New arc is next week. This maintenance was just resetting territory

[finite mural]

did more than that, but we don't have notes atm

[civic haven]

Oh, I thought they were back-to-back now. Thanks

[hollow pike]

Max 1 week between arcs now moving forward, no more 2 week breaks.

[ocean bridge]

<@&509690795536941056>

Still no login possible since Sunday evening.... no Ticket response and so on...

EU, 157

[north dune]

409 lag.. menus not loading.. why do I still bother reporting🤷🏻‍♂️

[wooden spire]

😏

[north dune]

This game is becoming a daily joke

[wooden spire]

A joke that enough people keep throwing money at to ensure it’ll never be fixed. Wish I knew all the mugs, I’ve got sandwich bags full of air to sell them. Only 1000 per bag, dollars or pounds, I don’t mind.

[keen loom]

Reminds me of the scene from that Star Wars parody.

[tame finch]

another significant lag after update, game is slow,crushing repeatadly...god bless our patience w scopely

[pallid hemlock]

I can't understand how gamers can still pay for that nonsense

[hollow glade]

Shops don't appear, refinery buttons tell me to get to OP 19 (I am 65...), mining ships can't refresh. My whole alliance is complaining at this point and we are about to lose 1 level 69 and 1 level 70 players (decent spenders) because they just can't take it any more.

[cerulean sable]

Congratulations, Scopely—another update and a whole bunch of new bugs. You really outdid yourselves this time.

[keen loom]

Not this time. Every time.

[clever arrow]

basically cant even get game to load on pc. when it does get all kinds of errors and navigation errors. this is garbage. Cany you not get anyone competent. the game is years old.....what is the problem

[keen loom]

Interesting to see more communication from a discord mod (who isn’t compensated by Scopley - by definition) than anyone who is.

#concerning

[unreal zenith]

my borg refinery is just gone now

[unreal zenith]

id perfer no new content if the existing content could be fixed first, honestly becoming really painful to keep going with this

[keen loom]

You and everyone else. Rest assured it’s been asked for repeatedly over multiple years - and ignored for the same.

[serene dragon]

Say this every time, but gets completely ignored. How do you manage to make a few chsnges/repairs that just about sccrew-up the whole game???

[thorn nexus]

I don’t think the new and exciting lag feature is going down well. 🤔

[unreal zenith]

https://klipy.com/gifs/checked-out

[latent timber]

<@&509690795536941056> how about fixing the bugs that hurt players before fixing bugs that might help players?

[subtle zinc]

Oops, Scopely apparently forgot to test the update again!! Its like they have no clue...

[carmine yew]

https://tenor.com/view/lag-irl-gif-19297080

[dawn shore]

ADJUSTING. 💩💩💩

[wooden spire]

These transitions are so fast that I almost didn’t fall asleep in between, get fed up, and watch stuff on YouTube instead. Another successful maintenance or whatever it is. 🙄

[carmine yew]

Im down from playing 14 hours a day to playing 4 hours a day. If it wasn't for the lag i'd be playing 2 hours a day. Soon I will just bang it on the head and play 0 hours per day.

Maybe they keep the lag on purpose to keep their "played" stats up

[unreal zenith]

Thats like twice the speed I usually get!

[zealous stump]

@carmine yew i just log in and do my dailes now thats it. Its getting to the point where i dont even want to do that anymore.

[wooden spire]

I know. I’m starting to think I’ve somehow accidentally curried favour with scopely!

[carmine yew]

thats what takes me 4 hours a day 🤣

[zealous stump]

@carmine yew rofl

[fluid mist]

give it a few more hours and you'll find the 20 bugs that got put in game and only 1 improvement rofl

[carmine yew]

What improvment? I don't see G5 scrapping that was announced

[unreal geyser]

Oh they said April or may, just not of which year....

[fluid mist]

well to be fair it doesn't cost scoplwy any money so of course they'd rather have the discord mod chat rather than a paid employee in here chatting not thst thw paid employee would be able to help anyways.

[prisma quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-working-computer-fire-burning-work-pressure-gif-797541937587978407

it's getting worse and worse

[waxen patio]

April isn’t over yet, next arc should still start in April

[carmine yew]

there was this that has now gone "poof" from the news board

[keen loom]

Add this to the Bek “If we didn’t test nothing would work” collection.

[knotty gale]

That would cost scopley pack money so they axed it

[wild hearth]

it certainly hasn't done anything beneficial

[shut totem]

I've aktualisiert the game and now i cannot start. I see only the black screen with headline STAR TREK. What happend?

[plain arrow]

Same here, today's update downloaded from app store, now it doesn't go beyond the black screen with Star Trek logo and bottom right says "ADJUSTING" with rotating circle.

[dawn cave]

Space...... We "have" finally reached the final frontier.

[plain arrow]

After about 5min of adjusting, the game started for me.

[grizzled topaz]

they needed to adjust your personal lag

[knotty gale]

It's really sad and disturbing. Over the last 2 yrs I have seen so many players and friends quit... at what point do you say enough losses.... LISTEN TO US FIX THE GAME OR PULL THE PLUG

[feral tide]

Cant login stuck at adjusting screen

[keen loom]

Never happen.

[noble iris]

Game offline again?

[ocean bridge]

Same since Sunday

[opaque raft]

#⭐-official-announcements message

Where are the release notes?

[keen loom]

Scopley isn’t awake yet. C’mon.

[gritty tiger]

I’m stuck at the adjusting screen for 10 minutes - can’t log into game

[fluid mist]

does scopley ever really wake up because it doesn't seem so with all the honest and worthwhile suggestions we give them on how to fix this game and bring back players and make lots of money yet they still stay asleep at the helm of this dying ship.

[mossy acorn]

It has been a week since the battle engine update with the following officers no longer working in Outposts

#🛠-known-issues message

It's upsetting that these weren't addressed overnight

it would be appreciated if Conor or someone at Fleet Command would express an expected timeline for restoring Officers to their expected utility

<@&509690795536941056>

[keen loom]

We should start charging Scopley for advice.

[keen loom]

Why would you want that? It would simply be nothing more than a PR campaign with empty promises.

[nocturne phoenix]

Looks like she stole it from Kai Wynn. I'm quite enjoying Mara Dalen's hats, it's the most reliable thing in the game now.

[umbral thistle]

do we think they will take hat design requests?

[meager hollow]

<@&509690795536941056> after today's patch, any word on the "promised" g5 scrapping for April? can we expect some news about this, before the end of the month?

[fast anvil]

https://giphy.com/gifs/steveharveytv-steve-harvey-you-got-jokes-l41lISBVXb9gRT32w

[fluid mist]

they don't have enough money left after paying there employees to break games

[vocal jungle]

Comme d’habitude, après une maj, ça lag dur dur , 3 relances en 5 minutes 🤬🤬😡😱

[keen loom]

No. You can expect to hear about prime g5 scrapping locked behind a new faction, a new ship, and a year long grind.

[river spindle]

Assume g5 scrapping is already out and any additional sigma rss and 6* rare mats are minimal, so your gameplay has not changed for better at all.

[wind prism]

Scope Lee, your greed is beyond reproach while I understand the battle pass concept your complete money grab and not fixing items is disgusting

[raven atlas]

#⭐-official-announcements message

<@&509690795536941056>
Any idea when scopely will announce the release notes?
Releasing an update without that is highly unusual, especially when there are so many unresolved bugs.

[viscid gorge]

They are still trying to figure out what was in the update

[drowsy topaz]

<@&509690795536941056> any idea when login issues will be resolved

[fluid mist]

at the very least prolly more requirements other than this like ops80 too

[sand talon]

when the lag is so on point that the speedups cannot be applied by the time the game catches up to your click 👌 how long has it been this bad for? are you guys ok?

[fluid mist]

prolly once they figured out what they didn't break so they can pat themselves on the back for what they "fixed" (that wasn't broke)

[wooden spire]

Balloons, drinks, gifts and music to celebrate the correcting of a missing letter from a mission storyline. Call that a bug fix and go back into hibernation.

[ebon jackal]

that won't help, at least it doesn't for me

[meager hollow]

spoke too soon #⭐-official-announcements message

[balmy iris]

"Quality of life" 🙂

[sullen matrix]

RIP?

[unborn field]

#⭐-official-announcements message

[livid spear]

Get you S togetter

[zinc terrace]

@raw fiber what quality of life improvements? I never saw any notes. If there are good changes, take the win.

[wicked olive]

<@&509690795536941056> 3 normal maintenance and 2 emergency maintenance that month. Are you serious ?????

[cyan horizon]

whazzap ? anothe rmaintenance ?

[finite mural]

https://startrekfleetcommand.com/news/update-89-3-tng-first-contact-part-2-patch-notes/

[cold valve]

Would it really be that hard to give some heads up when doing an emergency boot, incredibly stupid!

[serene dragon]

Thanks for the warning...... NOT.

[mild steppe]

As the game degrades daily, at least we have cartoons to watch!

[pastel herald]

so, let me get this right, you didnt even GC warn the players that you were gonna do the reboot of the server?!?!?! fail

[north dune]

Better be lag fix

[rapid agate]

just got bounced out of the game with a maintenance error and failed login...great job <@&509690795536941056>

[sinful socket]

I wonder how many people have ships in hazard systems that just got bent over without apology.

[woeful nymph]

Love the notice.....

[sturdy aurora]

Information is the way forward

I'm ok with server shutdown to fix or update stuff. I'm server owner on other games and know that pain.

BUT you should at least give a warning in-game and not just kill servers without letting people know who might not be on this Discord.

[torpid kelp]

Don't you think it's about time we hired a new programmer? The old one's clearly incompetent. We have something that could be described as a fundamental principle of economics: if you want to make money, you have to spend money.

[cosmic knoll]

you fixing the alliance claim chest? and the alliance help button?

[cold valve]

[covert mist]

donwtime without noteice?

[unborn field]

I just started an armada and didn't have a notice on S24 I don't think my ship got sent to it. Would that be something to make a ticket about?

[potent slate]

Ja, die haben das Spiel endgültig ruiniert und kaputtprogrammiert. STFC IS DEAD ✝️ R.I.P. 🪦

[cosmic knoll]

you putting G5 scrapping in the game?

[pastel herald]

i swear if these people were the I.T. of a company, they would get replaced

[knotty gale]

Emergency maintence🤣

[sweet mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-the-house-we-dont-know-what-were-doing-gif-8225002

[cosmic knoll]

am i getting my Mantis Comp after waiting 3 years?

[cold valve]

@unborn field Definitely ticket, it's a must!

[remote jolt]

Entre les maintenances annoncées qui engendrent une multitudes de bugs, la maintenance non annoncées est toujours la bienvenue à une heure de forte affluence 😡 Comme dit, vous êtes bons, ne lâchez rien !!!

[sullen matrix]

Is the Dauntless gonna be fixed now?

[potent slate]

NO, never

[olive shore]

Just spent poly directives and you went into maintenance, poo

[midnight meadow]

W.t.f. let's fix it right the first time... oh waitnits Scopely and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing

[dire scaffold]

Maintenance with no notice whatsoever - not cool

[serene dragon]

Absolutely clueless.

[tropic crown]

15 minutes not likely.

[wise vale]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-wait-patiently-oh-i-will-wait-oh-yes-i-will-man-pulling-out-camp-chair-to-wait-gif-8026493645162499411

[sullen matrix]

i bet chatgpt could fix it 😂

[midnight meadow]

I call B.S.

[cold valve]

15 hours later and still waiting is more likely.

[tacit needle]

emergency maintenance is now considered a quality of life improvement?

[dire scaffold]

chatgpt probably codes it lol

[tawdry moat]

2h minimum i’d say

[wise ingot]

15 mins times 4 is thier normal time frame

[tropic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-senorclatticus-clatticus-clat-bunny-gif-12649645427450560509

[tawdry moat]

15 min is just the time to reboot a server

[cosmic knoll]

emergency comp chest?

[woeful nymph]

It's ironic how fast Scopely can put a server into maintenance to fix something when it is a player beneficial bug.

[cold valve]

Wohoo, free Sphere for everyone!

[tardy compass]

More than 3 minutes warning before “improving a QOL” emergency maintenance next time. Just spitballing here

[tropic crown]

You pay 99 dollars for there reboot fee.

[midnight meadow]

Oh wait if you complain too loudly their bot kicks you out of discord

[cyan horizon]

QoL introdueed ? I did not noticed any. Maybe no lags (yet).

[serene dragon]

ChatGPT would shut it down and put us all out of our colletive misery.

[remote jolt]

PS : côte est des USA 6 heures de décalages horaire, côte ouest, 9 heures. Merci d'en prendre conscience dans vos foutues maintenances !

[potent slate]

DEAR COMMUNITY, Scopely can make as many hotfixes as they want. STFC IS DEAD. ✝️ R.I.P. 🪦

[gloomy spear]

Chances this will fix the extreme lag?

[pastel swift]

Emergency maintenance two minutes into my brake. Just my luck

[cold valve]

@gloomy spear My guess is no...

[opaque raft]

Would be nice if a normal maintenance actually did maintain the game. Unfortunately Scopely’s maintenance always breaks the game somehow.

[sweet mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-john-cena-not-happening-i-hate-to-be-the-bearer-of-bad-news-that-will-not-happen-gif-6755838494321589001

[dreamy depot]

what QOL are they talking about ? Or do they still think its april fool's day because of lag

[zinc terrace]

Was this blasted anywhere? I looked on the announcement channel before I posted. Nothing in there since last night.

Was it me or scopley that missed it?

[uncut lagoon]

opens discord and cracks knuckles

[full tiger]

Emergency maintenances are fine (I mean... we're used to it), but not at all when we don't have like a 15 minutes notice so we don't start waves knowing there's a maintenance about to start. PLEASE don't forget the notice anymore guys, at the very least a 5 minutes one lol

[mental minnow]

emergency maintenance. translation:“ we’ve ignored players for months, but now the game won’t work at all so we HAVE to fix it now. Please continue spending though.”

[raven atlas]

#⭐-official-announcements message

Scopely again thanks us patience most of us do not longer have.

[umbral gull]

Roger you legend, we've been through so much together with those sariens

[tropic crown]

They must have found something that benefited the players.

[mental minnow]

I see the scopely bot is already busy deleting posts

[tropic crown]

Based on what I burst read it was exactly that!

[dreamy depot]

i doubt they even have devs anymore, i bet it's the finance department using AI to code game

[knotty gale]

A new pack for buying

[flint elm]

https://tenor.com/view/there-will-be-weeping-and-gnashing-of-teeth-roland-blum-michael-sheen-the-good-fight-tears-will-be-shed-gif-21890698

[left badger]

Squirrels with Bananas....is what Scopely should hire for development and related work...

[glad saffron]

not sure what to say, but if your patch notes are correct + the new maintenance, you need to remove the people, whomever you define being responsible, I do not care, but this is now kiddie code level. Far far far far far far, beyond a complete joke.

lol, I had to rewrite that 3 x, I guess the word scopely is not ok

[knotty gale]

That would be an improvement they can't let that happen🤣

[north dune]

Funny that the version pushed is still “deadlock fix test”

[sand root]

you people are useless

[glad saffron]

or idioot

[glass monolith]

If its a problem that is in scoply favor it takes years to fix.... if its a problem that helps players the game is taken down IMMEDIATELY for emergency fix.

[weary charm]

Isn't it odd how this emergency maintenance thing happened just as everyone's golden shield was about to expire?

[knotty gale]

Freegaila 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[glad saffron]

does anyone want my invite back code? Its going to be great honest, no issues, trust me, I am a Ferengi

[glass monolith]

They took it down cause their instant button was letting people pay with lat instead of the prime particles or uc or rare stuff.

[clever arrow]

Every time they go into maintenance, even emergency they should give a 5 minute warning. And as soon as they come out of maintenance they should also post.

[full gate]

https://tenor.com/view/skyfall-skill-issue-gif-27325993

[patent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/my-life-got-so-much-better-avori-my-life-improved-my-life-went-up-from-there-im-living-the-life-gif-22850382

[balmy dew]

damn and i missed it

[marsh oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/devils-mile-david-hayter-tire-iron-rage-smash-gif-17140619

[clever arrow]

Sometimes they tell us others they don't. If it's supposed to be 15 minutes and it's at minute 16 tell us that it's not back up and then tell us when you expect to have it back up. This is simple communication that everybody does except scopely. For sure when you go into maintenance you should post back on the official channels when it's finished.

[tropic crown]

If it’s a problem for the players they won’t fix it for years. If it cost Scopley money they bring down the game to fix it.

[sharp depot]

Good timing can't move ships around during my 20 minute break. Gonna be 4 hours behind after work. 🤬

[glad saffron]

Seriously?

[fluid mist]

anything to do with the game deserves tickets tbh especially the way it runs or doesn't run properly now

[wind prism]

All flows from the top and the GM should be fired

[high whale]

But just as they removed the lat from comp chest. This crap almost every time now. Like they knew trouble was coming. Com chest without lat a joke now...not a a comp chest anymore. Still angry after receiving it now. An always the same nonsense. Thanx for understanding. Stop the lies Scopely!

[crystal furnace]

Well 💩, there was WHOLE LOT I could’ve done with that! 😭😭

[lunar ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-hurry-impatient-gif-22696825

[mental minnow]

hey, players that quit! Please come back. We’ve made the game soooooo much better. 😂😂

[dense wharf]

Scopely fixed this bug pretty fast, y'all aren't even gonna get my time let alone money until the rest of the bugs are fixed just as fast.

[mild steppe]

No shield after bs maintenance? At least the lag is worse!

[molten mason]

15 min...lol

[quick gale]

I retract my comment about the game still being in BETA. I apologise.

Are we out of ALPHA yet?

[restive geyser]

Finish it. If you know you're slow, work faster.

[tropic crown]

<@&509690795536941056> events not scoring now.

[restive geyser]

Compensation for a 12-hour shield?

[wooden spire]

The people who give money to Scopely should really pay attention to how quickly this bug that favoured players was dealt with. Servers shut down without even a warning to deal with it.

What a slap in everyone’s face while bugs that have been around for months and years remain.

[frail latch]

Let's be fair, folks. Taking the game down IS the quality of life improvement. It means we're not dealing with the broken garbage that's being rushed out week after week.

[restive geyser]

That's always been the case.

[finite ruin]

What exactly did you fix? Everything is still broken.

[balmy dew]

i can see it now.. no comp chest..
reason: only a slight bother to the players no need to give them stuff since they had the chance of some prime at the cost of latinum

[nimble marlin]

I’m still getting a spinning wheel of death on the start screen

[finite ruin]

Which officers are the worst in stfc stay tuned for today's comp pack

[faint summit]

Is it possible for scopley to add ANYTHING without messing something up?

[restive geyser]

nope

[grim obsidian]

Short answer ... No ... they thrive on making the community upset since if they have interaction from the players anywhere, like discord, they believe they are doing a service to their player base and have "good" engagement. They have no concept of what they are doing and refuse to listen when we, the players point it out. They would rather mute us than listen to the truth.

[flint elm]

Personally I enjoyed going for a dump without doing solo armadas

[jolly flame]

Another update with new items and no fixes…and still laggy….are the servers orbiting a gravitational vortex or in a parallel universe?

[spiral mesa]

I would like to ask when are going to be able to scrap 5* ships, it was promised for April and April is almost over

[drowsy topaz]

I'd like to know when I can log back in 🤣

[spiral mesa]

😂

[low gull]

Like I say if it affects there wallet there quick to fix it

[unborn field]

@raw fiber the update seems to have broken the instant completion, it's just constantly spinning in circles and said it cannot be applied. When I try to do the normal speed ups it says it cannot be applied and both methods are stuck in circles.

[muted hamlet]

Are we going to ever told what is in these updates? I'm still waiting to know what the "buff update" did - a post referenced it but there was no post explaining what it was in the first place. What's the QOL from today? Is it too hard to communicate basic info, guys?

[finite mural]

https://startrekfleetcommand.com/news/update-89-3-tng-first-contact-part-2-patch-notes/

[midnight meadow]

Hate to tell you but you still haven't fired it

Fixed it

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> its nice to see theres someone thats competent enough to fix a bug in 15 minutes, w t bluck they been doing for the last 7 years? sunbathing? get them to fix the help request and aliance chest ty

[glad saffron]

lol, incompetent does not remotely come close to what this game has become, another g7 player logging off.

[vestal pebble]

Guys please tell us whether you working on outposts or not. Is it intended to nurf some officers and iso upgrates? I need material to upgrade officers and the only way to do so is by doing outposts but i keep dying on the current version of outpost and my tickets are being delayed 3 and 4 days now. Give us some news please.

[muted hamlet]

Thanks not sure how I missed it. I usually get notified.

What about 89.2?

[lyric otter]

So where’s the shield after emergency maintenance. Can I have my stuff back that you helped players take 🤬

[balmy shadow]

It was in our favor whatever it was

[cosmic knoll]

the ability to spend lat on research when you shouldnt be able to i think, like you shouldnt be able to lat unc/rare mats, but it allowed you to.

so a g3 player might be able to lat the prime that requires G5 rare mats etc etc

[last nymph]

Where can one find the patch notes

[finite mural]

#💬-general-feedback message

[balmy shadow]

Yeah, they would def pull the servers for that, and that should be left up

[cosmic knoll]

apparently it extended to the special currencies too 😄

[neon atlas]

Screaming into the pillow again.

      **Priorities list:**

1. Fix the lag and bugs.
2. Go back to what made the game fun.
3. Don't do anything else until both 1 and 2 are done

[latent tusk]

Is anyone having trouble logging in since the last emergency maintenance.

[modest mirage]

well as expected this is worse since update today, didnt think it could get worse but lag, scrolling ages to claim any chests, more lag and then logs you out what a farce. never ever have i seen a company this bad in 40 years of gaming. time to call it a day player 71 here had enough!

[grim obsidian]

Lag so bad, I clicked on the Arena today to start a matchup for Friday

[drowsy topaz]

Yes lots of people - nearly 11 hours and no response or acknowledgement from Scopely

[wooden spire]

Lag so bad I’m doing Thursday’s dailies now

[river spindle]

89.2 only had one item: “sorry, our buff fix broke many key officers and target flags in the game”

[grim obsidian]

Lag so bad, I just got notification that my treasury is full

[full gate]

lag delaying chests and claims

[unreal zenith]

War chest, needs 65billion points, 3mil points per station hit... meaning need to find and hit 21,000plus stations to unlock all rewards... are scopley really on crack???

[full gate]

lag getting worse

[molten jungle]

Nah, was pretty quick to fill that one.

[finite mural]

Your math is off

You only need to hit a station 28 times

[unreal zenith]

There is a significant difference between billion and million

[full gate]

MAJOR LAG MAKE IT STOP PLEASE

garbage game, garbage developers and coders, nothing gets fixed but they just jack the prices

[naive mulch]

can i reapir my damn ship

[unborn halo]

There were QOL improvements today? All I noticed was 33m armada timers and lag.

[honest nacelle]

Emergency maintenance returned the lag which we were accustomed to

[tropic crown]

Wish I had known.

[tropic crown]

They will fix stuff that benefits the players and fast as we saw today.

[river spindle]

They had to do emergency maintenance because superlag wasn’t working

[haughty sail]

Id hope any purchases done like that get reverted, otherwise it would be super unfair and ruin the balance even more

[tropic crown]

They won’t because they won’t know how to do it.

[honest nacelle]

Seem they did a top notch job then

[keen loom]

Scopley still hiding in the closet? Sporting the dunce cap?
Sure looks like it.

[full gate]

joke joke joke what a joke. room temp IQ developer/coders

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> scopely keep pushing for players to return ... to what? the games falling apart. anything remotely beneficial is removed, even officers have stopped working. you want players to spend? on what? stuff that doesnt work? or wont work in the next few maintenances? pass this along to TIM if you got the marbles ty.

[full gate]

Scopely cant make a product that works. You waste your money on a ship, ship breaks, they never fix it. Why would I ever spend anything again?

[frank stag]

am i missing something here https://i.imgur.com/18F1mg6.png

[hybrid lake]

yip the research for free bug was realy quick fixed

[quick cove]

Guaranteed reply pack for just 999$

[zinc terrace]

Exploit? Must have been worse than the pack that completed the augment research tree

[fluid mist]

wonder what they gonna do to players that took advantage of what they're calling an exploit

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-righttojail-gif-18077933

[dawn shore]

<@&509690795536941056> Ops 35 & based in Jinnia go to do a Q trial and I can't get there. I know that they spawn 2 systems out, but can you not have them spawn somewhere that is 2 systems away and ACTUALLY accesible??????

[keen loom]

When we going to see necessary action to stabilize the game and remove lag?

[stoic venture]

Is it putting the silly hats and glasses on Mara Dalen?

[fluid mist]

considering it was something that scopley by accident put into game I find it hard to call it an exploit it's not like a wrote a script or something and snuck it into game to get an unfair advantage. Something they did wasn't coded right and people thst happened to be doing research was able to do stuff they shouldn't have was it fair no but not an exploit it was an unintentionally big/glitches that if it's to be remedied should be allowed for every other player to get x amount of research done in the same manner because thst would make it fair. Anyways just pretty funny and I can see people leaving if they decide to try and reverse said research or something

[fluid mist]

you'd end up putting the last nail in the coffin for this game if they'd seriously do something like that hammy rofl

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grand-budapest-hotel-nobody-move-everybodys-under-arrest-gif-22201000

[languid quartz]

Today is a perfect example of where Scopely needs to improve their change management process for code. You perform a patch, then later, perform an emergency maintence to fix an issue that the patch created, then have another fix needed to stop an exploit that the emergency maintenance introduced.

[hybrid lake]

you could research without any cost of resorces 🤣 look how fast can scopely fix a bug 🐛 it was a instand fix because they loosing money 🤣

[fluid mist]

It's been a well known fact for year's that if anything helps the playerbase or to help an ftp take down a whale like the realta burn it is nerfed or reversed or completely removed and rewritten by scopley.

[wintry bobcat]

Kinda funny how quickly Scopely can move when they're losing money, eh?

[foggy elm]

Warp 9.975!

[final tide]

i'd be thrilled if they fixed it so when i zone into a system i can SEE the system. most of the time the nodes look empty and i see a scout. I know i have to switch back and forth from system view and back until i can actually interact with the system. It's not my system which is state of the art or my fiber internet. their client doesn't sync well when you get to 71+

[compact terrace]

you could have stopped at "their client doesnt sync well" 🙂

[fluid mist]

sometimes if ya want change got to do something different than the status quo

[final tide]

I live in hope that one of the scopely folks that don't play the game might get a clue about how to observe failure and maybe one day get it fixed

i have played the game so long i remember when it just worked

[dense prawn]

Cringey memes instead of any actual customer support. Good job as usual 🙄

[normal bronze]

If a company makes a mistake that's on them.. Try some quality control.. In the real world you cant just go oh i messed up and take things back, past second grade.

[uncut marsh]

Let me get this straight… Scopely introduced a bug, that unlike all of the other bugs they introduced that ruin gameplay, this bug happened to benefit the players. Players have to constantly deal with failed arc roll-outs, event glitches, reward glitches, $100 packs that only really provide a $30 value since they are stuffed with useless items, and then there is the constant soul crushing lag. After this type of game play experience Scopely wants to investigate the players who took advantage of the gameplay Scopely introduced during the last update and then take appropriate action? Am I somehow taking crazy pills?!

[tardy compass]

The issue is those players who took advantage of (likely) buying prime research for latinum only would then have an advantage over players who didn't.

[midnight pilot]

Always quick to fix an exploit.. but still have bugs from over 5 years ago.... You can see where priorities lie.
And all bugs are not down to players but the company

[fluid mist]

well the same thing could be said for those that buy packs for those primes instead of those that grind to get them or dont buy them. Those that buy have an advantage over those that don't but we don't penalize them for that do we. I know its a technicality but if we drawing a line between advantage and disadvantages has to be for everything not just what we feel like.

[drowsy topaz]

I'd be thrilled if they could fix it so I could actually log in 🤣

[vocal plover]

The only reason scopely cares is they are gonna lose people buying packs. But the backlash on them is gonna be way funnier. Another mess up

[steel ridge]

What exploit was even out there

[vast nest]

Read #🌌-galaxy-chat right now

[bleak gale]

mods i know you can see what was auto deleted as long as scoply sees its all i care about

yo hammy im chill but scoply you need to recheck ur stuff like bro what

breaking you own game and not expecting ur players to get free stuff... is just wild, you procced to not check your stuff to make sure it will work properly then threatne you players when you cant even keep the game working maintenance is find but dont threatne (hammy not ur fault we chill i need you to know that)

[maiden hatch]

Dear Scopley Overlords, Regarding the Hammy's message from the company. Get Pungee sticked. There. I said it. you broke it, you bought it.

[limber steeple]

@rigid vapor You can’t punish folks for using the code that you put into the game. It wasn’t an exploit, it was an oopsie. Besides, the precedent was set a long time ago. Sometimes the bank loses to the players. It’s part of the game

[keen loom]

I sure hope Scopley doesn’t ask for or expect sympathy from players - ever.

The zest and zeal this fix was served up with SHOULD be what players expect going forward for bugs, lag, and g5 scrapping.

[wild hearth]

Maybe you should have a test platform so that bugs don't hit production? You know, like real software developers do?

[knotty gale]

Gaila all over again bc people don't proof read their work

[vast nest]

AI code wasn't programmed for QA

[knotty gale]

If they jumped on lag like they did earlier be different story

[steel ridge]

I like folks trying justify they got stuff for free and not to take it back. If they can reverse it they should.

It's not uncommon in other games if they have the ability to roll things back.

[uncut marsh]

Does Scopely reverse their errors with an equivalent exchange? No. They give crappy little comp packages even though their errors screwed up the game for ALL of the players. Stop trying to justify.

[cyan isle]

Help me understand. I can send you a screenshot of a guy admitting he bots. And you don’t care he exploits that. But this you do something?

[calm barn]

The issue isn't Scopely taking back the stuff players got for free through an exploit. The issue is that there are mountains of other bugs and issues that hurt players that Scopely ignores. If they acted as quickly to fix the stuff that hurts players, then your comment would be justified. They don't, so it's not.

[uncut marsh]

If there is n exploit of any kind, that is Scopely’s fault, just like all of the other problems we have to deal with on a daily basis.

[steel ridge]

So should scopley refund now players who purchased it that could have got it for free?

Because you know those players are frustrated

[cyan isle]

They ignore bots. Literally the biggest exploit out there right now

[neon atlas]

They should demand compensation from the players who benefited from their exploit.

1 parsteel per incident

[faint summit]

I mean if YOU put it in game, it's a feature. If WE hacked the game, it's an exploit

[bleak gale]

scoply loses money they fix if it helps the players they make you wait years and dont even fix it

[fluid mist]

you say its ppl trying to justify getting things for free when the real reason is if there QA department actually tested stuff before releasing we would never have 95% of the problems we've been having since year 1. Players getting stuff for free is literally nothing when compared to the lack of proper testing and implementation on basic content going into a game

[full gate]

Scopely makes a coding mistake that benefits the players... INSTANTLY FIXED. Meanwhile there are glitches and problems for 6 years that have not been fixed.

[nova vale]

So they go after people that found a bgg who played along but you canuse bots, and they do nothing. How hypercritical

[bleak gale]

its crazy how the only WAY i can ENJOY THIS GAME is to IGNORE SCOPLY

they only care about the stupied cash

[neon atlas]

Year one we realized our enemies were not other players, but Scopely, and players should collaborate and use every creative means they can to counter them

[bleak gale]

lowki there game is falling appart cause there money hungry and dont give 2- about no one but the stupied spenders (nothing wrong with u spenders) but scoply needs to ligit figure there- out and stop focussing on money cause its distroying the game

the lines are my way of sensoring

[fluid mist]

thats why when us little ftp players figured out the realta burn glitch to take down whale ships we passed that along fast which of course was changed right fast cant have a whale face a huge repair bill right lol

[bleak gale]

cause scoply is too much of a baby and freaks out when people take there pixels

[fluid mist]

oh I agree and don't forget if you make too much sense in your messages and posts on here they'll block your message and or ban you for it

[bleak gale]

is it bad i dont care about a ban

ive had 2 messages blocked today

if they cant handle the truth then il face the hammer cause im not going to let the truth slip because they cant handle it

[fluid mist]

and before someone says only if you break the discord t.o.s. I've had messages blocked without going against tos I'm very careful when I need to be yet still sometimes get blocked

[neon atlas]

Gaila, Tal, Borg > Vengeance, etc. The players know the game better than they do, but they don't do User Acceptance Testing. They just defecate these updates and spend x5 more effort later

[bleak gale]

i havent discord itself block my message but this server auto mod yesssss

and ima be real if i get banned im going right to revs server and il rant there instead and then scoply cant and will never get my feed again cause if they dont like feed back my opinion then should i bother giving it

that aint a threat thats a promise

sorry not sorry

[neon atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/all-the-things-hyperbole-and-a-half-do-all-the-things-excited-gif-5207369

Copy paste on all the servers 😂

[bleak gale]

huh?

what i said?

[neon atlas]

Yeah. Why just Revs? Every server out there has a discord

[bleak gale]

cause what others

plus ive been in revs for a while now and i know i can rant freely in there

[neon atlas]

I mean, I like the energy, but let the hate flow through you. It makes you powerful.

(Cackles in a dark robe with lightning shooting out of hands)

https://tenor.com/view/cackles-star-wars-sheev-palpatine-gif-15366449

[bleak gale]

time to go to war thunderrrrr

[wintry bobcat]

@tidal notch, that's a new low, threatening the players. I'm genuinely shocked.

[bleak gale]

scoply tell him what to send i dont think he meant that just did his job

[wintry bobcat]

I don't care who said it. This is the feedback channel, I'm feeding back that I've never known a game company to threaten the players like that and it's disturbing.

[bleak gale]

ok

[elfin minnow]

Anyone who exploited it, good on you. Screw scopley and their saudi princes.

[fluid mist]

I think it's truly just a threat no company decides to do what was said and get to ride off into the sunset and live long and prosper it ends up going under when the details are made public. If any of us were smart we'd be screenshoting everything incase it goes down that path because things can change in a heartbeat and in this day and age well numbers don't lie and many times the customers do get the last laugh.

[vestal pebble]

You can't call a button you created to click on as exploit although I understand unfairness here

[hexed bloom]

Its a glitch you created and the onus is on the Devs, an exploit is with intent to circumvent. I hope you've run this though your legal team cos your opening a bad tin of worms with your approach here!

[fluid mist]

Definition of an exploit

An exploit is a piece of software, data, or sequence of commands that takes advantage of a bug or vulnerability in a system, application, or hardware to cause unintended behavior. It is a tool used by attackers to gain unauthorized access, steal data, or install malware, typically bypassing security measures.

So since you accused players of using an exploit did we steal data, or install malware, or bypass your security measures,or gain unauthorized access to this game. No we did none of these things we simply found a flaw on the Q.O.L. improvement you put into game which you would have known if you properly tested everything before making it live. Now I'm not denying players took advantage of the situation but we ain't the villains y'all painting us out to be since you skipped a step got caught with your pants down and now saying we did it all.

[crystal furnace]

I don’t see anything wrong with what those players did. It was scopelys mess up. They need to admit and own it. Leave those players alone. They exploit us daily. So what’s the difference? I see none.

Heck if I’d have known about it, I would have done it too 🤣

[bleak gale]

bots = ok we broke the game now you can exploit = not ok your fault

[crystal furnace]

Blaming players for what they did has me LMAO right now.
In the famous words of Bill Engvall “ Here’s your sign”

[finite raft]

i'm just curious as to where they managed to find the sigma speedups to get their whoopsie fixed so quickly when half the game is currently having issues. outposts, officers, waves, the weird issues with buttons when repairing ships, lag... they get all the buff issues fixed yet or just some of them? I bet the odds are still 50/50 we have a functional incursions this weekend.
Moral of the story: If a bug impacts you (the players) it can wait. If it impacts us (scopes) it gets fixed immediately.

[bleak gale]

see no one would have used something they added if they didnt add it or you know tested it? seems like something and dumy would say huh? lol

blame ur player for messing everything up its all our fault everyone nothing is scoply fault its always our fault

[vestal pebble]

Well here how fairness works, something was created which allowed a lot of freebies then they closed this "mechanic" now I want to use it too. Is it fare they have it and I don't?

[crystal furnace]

They were the lucky ones who found it. I am not in my feelings about it. I say good for them for catching it and getting it.

[vestal pebble]

Yeah I agree was just hoping I would get the news and use it.

[tulip whale]

Reluctant to continue spending as i have, because i could have gotten some of it for free

Paying for something that others got for free just 12 hours ago does not fly well

[fast anvil]

they shld just roll back everything

[sullen hamlet]

[maiden steeple]

what is all this nonscence that is being said about an exploit and is it true players are going to be banned???????????????

[sage wadi]

Put the bug back, I want to be banned. Freedom is tempting

[north meteor]

There will always be players banned for something. Probably not for this particular thing, however.

The available solutions depend on the scale of the problem. Which we probably will never be told. If the numbers are small, then it can be handled manually. If they are large, then I'd guess rollbacks of the worst cases.

[maiden steeple]

it was their mistake why should anyone be punished that is crazy but what do you expect with these people

[north meteor]

Why? You only have to read above, where people are complaining about having to pay for things some just got for "free".

[rare vale]

Honestly, I thought it was a QoL addition. Not the players fault that the devs have broke more than they've fixed in the last 18 or so months.

[paper meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/may-the-force-be-with-you-spock-live-long-and-prosper-spock-may-the-force-be-with-you-live-long-and-prosper-spock-gif-6602528995700314306

Thanks for the 6+ years of good and recently really bad game. I quit this game, and now can spend time doing stuff😂 Server 33, Level 62, level 51, and server 21 level 49 accounts all done. fix the game or more will quit.

[maiden steeple]

sorry to see you go

[finite raft]

15 - 30s to start an armada....

[sand talon]

and then your ship does not start flying towards it and you have to send it manually, absolute farce 🙃

[sage wadi]

They stated exactly that maintenance was more than just TC reset, but still up to this moment we didn't get any patch notes. Everybody was free to think it's an addition.

[graceful cedar]

Again with the pop-ups every time I change screens, you messed up and are blaming players for tour ignorance, you don't fix anything and now you're pushing your stupid sale and that ridiculous "Active Duty Recall" event that nobody in their right mind would accept. This feels like your last attempt to grab some quick cash. I'll start looking for a new game to replace this one because it won't last long in this state, hospice patients never do.

[bleak gale]

nothing no better then one your playing someones elses game and then they blame you when they break it

[sage wadi]

But of course don't bother with players using bots. That ruins only player experience and not company income.

[sage wadi]

Bug List Feedback from the players:
<@&509690795536941056>

• Help button stucks
• Shield can't activated in owned territory until refresh
• GS31 beam lag
• “Retrieving…”
• Event rewards multiple claim attempts
• Event tabs jumping
• Wave rewards not shown
• Ships stuck in combat during wave
• FC Lorca and Janeway skill icons swapped
• Voyager mining systems broken
• War Room chest claim very slow
• DTI faction shows “points to max: 400” even when it is being maxed
• Using Cerri boost to a low HH ship, shows the ship as destroyed. Same with Squall when ability ends.
• Bulk refinery forgets everything when a maxed limit reached
• Pink visual glitch in meteor hazard and on nodes
• Clicking a building sometimes only zooms in without showing upgrade UI
• Dauntless stops auto-hunting in surge after a new surge begins
• Away team assignments reset to 00s
• Kir’Shara targeting for second and subsequent hostiles changes direction multiple times unnecessarily
• Ship repair lag
• Refinery and IA bulk claim causes screen flasing or blank screen
• Several consecutive actions cause Disconnection
• Defeating hostiles in solo wave near to middle still loses health from center base.
• Sometimes recall cannot be aborted
• Sending home miners through Spatial Rift from mining nodes in the Veil makes 0 points to daily mining mission
• Veil system hostile load problem
• Stuck in wave after completion
• Getting "Send more ships" message if you use 1 ship in wave, even when wave started.
• Warp stucks on 00s
• Squall when mining ghost moves to another node on its own
• In faction stores opening chest to see cost/content, cause blank screen, restart needed
• Q trial loads long and stucks on new trial
• Every action take more loading time

[warped vault]

So what are war-room rewards also busted? Claimed the token, nothing happens, claimed a second token and took a screen shot because who knows with this game right? Nothing..

[alpine linden]

state of the game... look how bad it is .. if they can hot fix the exploits.. why cant they fix this lagg and other stuff.

[wanton owl]

Please stop with this as a mechanic, it's not fun for the players.

[finite raft]

it wasn't really an exploit. they screwed up & players noticed and took advantage of it. calling it an exploit is really just shifting blame to the player rather than the programmer.
but i get what you mean and share the same sentiment 🙂

[alpine linden]

yikes ! i agree with you. now they are blaming the players who took advantage of their mistakes. why cant they just fix the game first before releasing new content.

false promises ..

[thin matrix]

Yeah, and as someone already stated, game folks never gave a list yet of what was done besides the tc reset, so you can’t blame anyone who while looking at research to see what they need to pick up from tournament store, saw they could now use lat. and did just that.
How was anyone to know that this was a glitch, and not a real thing in game.

[finite raft]

I dig it! it makes ya think about a new crew in place of the ol hum drum plug n play crews that take no thought. as long as BLT is never on that list 🤣

[finite mural]

You really think they needed to spell out that being able to bypass uncommon, and rare materials along with special materials was not intended behavior?

[thin matrix]

Well let’s see, the cube was at first a hard ship to get , then two yrs later they were giving them away. So yeah, anything can be possible.

[calm barn]

You really think anyone thought it odd that Scopely would let players use latinum, which can be bought for real money, to take a shortcut was not intended behavior?

[finite mural]

You're comparing an intended code with an unlock, to a blatantly obvious bug that people took advantage of? lol

[calm barn]

it wasn't blatantly obvious. If it was I would have known about it. You're comparing players taking advantage of poor coding and lack of playtesting to cheating? lol

[finite raft]

of course it was unintended. and nope i don't think they needed to spell it out. i do think they needed to check their work before they made a large change to the game. i think calling it an exploit shifts a whole whole whole lot of blame on players while taking zero responsibility. I'd like to think this would be a learning experience for them but guess what... it's not gonna be. that pack with all the pioneers crests comes to mind.
Something happened a long time ago back when the OG Augments came out and a bunch of players took advantage of something back then. Ya know what scopes didn't do... They didn't call it an exploit and make an ominous statement about taking necessary action. Ya know what they did do.... They gave a gift chest to everyone in game that did not take advantage of their coding issues.

[finite mural]

It was blatantly obvious that it wasn't intended. I never said it was cheating, but to pretend that they needed to spell it out so you knew better is just funny.

[calm barn]

In the meantime, my support ticket covering 4 different bugs, three of which involve me not getting ingame rewards that I earned/spent mats on, has gone unanswer for a day.

I don't care that some players were smart enough or fast enough to take advantage of your mistake. I do care, very much, that the rewards I earned without using an exploit never showed up and customer service is non responsive.

[thin matrix]

The free cube was a surprise thing, not announced a head of time, and it got a few folks mad. Regardless of its after intent to get folks to spend on upgrades. So same can be said for this bug.
And less you forget there was another one a few years back too. That folks were able to repeatedly collect on some special loot, and that never got taken away at that time. So this has Not been the first time this kind of thing has happened to you all, so learn from your own history or you will be destined to repeat it.
Stop blaming folks that the game doesn’t communicate with, about what the game did wrong not them

Spell what out, the game keeps changing the rules all the time, so how are we to know about this, if you ,the game, does not give us, the list of what was to be fixed or added with any maintenance. If that was done then maybe someone would have said hey bro…

[fast anvil]

think I nvr mentioned this before but a ship that needs sigma to upgrade SHLD be able to get opc sigma from enemy ships. wdym my maxed gs can't take sigma mats off another players miner. r U fr

[fast anvil]

iirc the one few years back was event tickets? I rmb having a good 1k+ for a while

[grave quest]

i’m unsure what this “exploit” was, and i don’t really care. but if brokely messes up in the players favor, that is on brokely. They have shown us over the past months that they do not care about quality, testing, or the state of the game in general. they have shown us that we don’t matter at all. so while i do not condone cheating, something like this was going to happen and its on them. not the players. oh! and it will happen more often until brokely fixes their processes and the game in general.

[errant brook]

Eploit was that u been able to instant do upgrades and researches for 0 latinum without having the materials like premium dust for mirror research - u didnt even get charged for materials.

[grave quest]

something like that, you’d think they’d test. but as we all know, the only thing worse than players are tests. i blame them, their practices, their priorities, NOT the players. but! they only care about their bottom line and the almighty dollar, so of course the players need to be blamed. no. this is on brokely and they need to hold themselves accountable.

[errant brook]

Sounds angry and helpless in one.

Did the sales drop hard? I wonder why...

But the Active Duty Recall Program will fix it - no need to connect to the player base again

[livid coyote]

Scopely have hide claiming players exploiting, scopely won't fix the game, overcharge in store, make us play for little reward, it's their own mistake, move on, allow some generosity in that scopely heart U r supposed to have. The true nature of Star Trek is not so greedy. Gene Roddenbury and the original actors would b appalled at how little U care about the players or true soul of Star Trek.

[grave quest]

https://tenor.com/view/wahhh-crying-bawling-baby-tears-gif-10296948

[tiny axle]

When a business makes a mistake and subsequently accuses its customers of exploiting that mistake, it reveals a lot about their attitude towards their customers. Customers are the core of any enterprise - without them, there is no business. Scopely flatly refuses to acknowledge this - that flow of money will dwindle with such a blinkered attitude. They choose to penalize their customers instead. I've played other online games where the developers have inadvertently introduced bugs but do not penalize players for taking advantage of them. They simply recognize the bug and work to correct it. They know how important it is to retain their customers without aggravating them.

[pallid osprey]

So when scopley bugs hurts players, limited fixes and no compensation.. scopley bugs help players and players get punished? Evil game

[ivory rain]

So, as I see it, the reset of the wrongfully acquired research and both sides have learned their lesson... Scope needs to be more careful and players mustn't exploit it...

[thin matrix]

Same in any retail. Never call your customers bad or evil, or wrong. You will loss them and Anyone they talk to. It is a proven retail fact. To get folks to spend money is hard, but to loss them is very easy. And so far….. well……. We are seeing the games knowledge on this. Sigh

[hexed bloom]

In retail a wrongly marked item can be refused sale at the til, once purchased thou it becomes a legally binding contract and can't be ask for back! You can't blame the consumer and try to punish them for buying what's on offer, the onus is on you scopes! Your mistake your problem! Not ours

[vale scroll]

Huh? i've opened about 20 Comp chests this month, i've lost count.

[somber orchid]

I’ll take flack for this opinion but I don’t care ! There is mistakenly taking advantage and then exploiting that advantage

[ivory rain]

I agree... it's perfectly clear that exploiting bugs will be punished...

[fast anvil]

yea but no ones was punished 😆

[ivory rain]

not yet

[nova sierra]

Maybe the players who used it thought "Ohhh that must be the announced ...Quality of life improvement ..." 😆

To be honest: If the announcement had not come with the threat "we come into direct contact with the players who used it" ... 99% would not have noticed what a mistake Scop made again.

A good management would have decided not to say anything about the subject at all. In the end, it doesn't matter whether maybe 80 people clicked. They were mostly G7 players anyway. And many of them buy regularly. So in the end no loss.

[fast anvil]

but i dont blame those that exploited it, scopes been so insufferable the past few months that they prob did it cuz they didnt rly care of the consequences. if they get banned they dont have to play it anymore and if they dont they save a lot of money and progress a ton

[vale scroll]

The idea that people didn't know what they were doing, and that they weren't taking advantage of a bug is comical. It was all over our alliance discord. Not that I agree they should be banned, but it was a clearly an error and was taken advantage of and needs to be reverted.

[fast anvil]

they can rollback the entire game from that point by 1-2 hours but nooooooo they choose not to do anything 🤷‍♂️ , their loss not the players at the end of the day so oh well

[ivory rain]

I can't do research if I don't have the materials. You can't just go to a store and take everything if you don't have any money...

Bug abuse must be punished... and every gamer should know that.

[vale scroll]

When have they ever done that? Not sure they can, my understanding is that they are instead contacting players directly in game, reverting the mistakes, I guess if the player causes a fuss then they can simply direct them to the section in the terms of service which states - "Cheating or exploiting loopholes in the game"

[tired jetty]

You do not need to "pay" for it, just wait until you're G7 and just earn it through the refinery. The only thing they gained was time.

[cosmic coral]

So what is happening with this exploit Scopely? Are you going to fix it or what, I'm waiting here to do research

[somber orchid]

Think the exploit was fixed hence why we had emergency maintenance last nite

[vernal stone]

define "what made game fun" ... for me its:

• NOT 1 hour of repetative mouse clicking to collect rando stuff to advance in the game ..
• mindless grinding hostiles/raiding .. ..

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> popup after starting game ok, but after claiming all the dailies another popup.

[strong quarry]

Not that I have been bothered enough to be in game enough lately to have even done anything about, because the game is in such a terrible state I can only just be barely bothered to not even do all dailies, I do feel compelled to point out that since the patch notes have finally been shared, what Scopely is calling an "exploit" is very clearly a feature working exactly as documented. That is on Scopely, not someone using the feature, again, working exactly as they documented it.

For reference, the relevant text of the patch notes is "It will automatically cover missing resources and time if you meet the requirements"

That you might expect that to exclude prime materials is irrelevant. This is the complete absence of any kind of real QA/Testing/Peer reviews/Sanity checks rearing its ugly head yet again.

[cyan isle]

Are you guys joking? We seriously need the merge. What the literal hades!

[tulip whale]

Has all the reserch etc from the "exploit" been reverted, or is it going to be? What is happening with it? I need to know before i spend any more money

[cyan isle]

I might just archive my account if you guys cancel the merge. This is some top level incompetence

[balmy iris]

No Star Trek fan should have to watch these glorious ships lag and stumble through space. It's a disgrace.

[grave hawk]

<@&509690795536941056> The game is running decently this morning. A couple of very minor issues are all. Please make this a feature and not a bug.

[marsh tide]

Every player that used the exploit huh, not the incompetent staff that allowed it I mean they do have test servers right they didn’t find it there first.

Amazing how fast a bug they implement that benefits the player is so quickly fixed but otherwise..... enough said

[carmine yew]

How many Background timers are running on our accounts?
Its no wonder things lag.

I shouldnt be getting notifications on my phone saying some research i sped up and completed weeks ago is ready to collect

[marsh tide]

I get notifications for Alliance Armadas that don’t exist I wonder if I’m not getting notifications for alliance members solo Armadas

[carmine yew]

yes thats a thing

[fluid mist]

thats a feature don't you know and they'll only fix it once it starts costing them revenue so the question is how does it start to cost them.

[grave hawk]

Lolz... That lasted about an hour. Tried to reset a node in transogen space... All the nodes disappeared.. hit by hostile and dead. Wonderful.

[keen loom]

Scopley has done a wonderful job over the years illustrating the difference between for greed, and for profit. That’s really all I can give them credit for accomplishing.

[sharp hamlet]

So merger postponed for 710 and 76? I sure hope it's canceled or is with a server that's a better match.

[latent timber]

114 and 402 merge got cancelled also 🥲

[worldly idol]

It wouldn’t be fair to the players on server 710 to be merged with a server that has players that got a 2 and a half year head start. That’s two and a half years worth of refinery pulls and ship blueprint chests advantages over the players of 710. My main server has already been paired with server 76 for incursions. If that happens again I wouldn’t be able to play the incursions because I’ll have competing accounts on my main and on 76.

[rough belfry]

So far this event is just a reskin of CotA but without the SMS awarding points to the SLB meta. So Scopely basically just lied straight to our face.

<@&509690795536941056>
Why not just tell us they were going to adjust CotA Scoring instead?

[keen loom]

If you didn’t see that coming …. I got nothing for you.

Scopley has taken anything reasonably accomplished away from the game, changed to garbage rewards, and added an insane number of attempts to get people to spend.

[frank trellis]

Chronicle of Justin!

[obsidian gazelle]

The patch notes weren't released at the time, so nobody had any idea what or how any of the updates worked..

[frank trellis]

Looks like outposts are still broken. I was hoping that this update would fix them. Is there any news on this?

[bold mirage]

Looking as the v'ger orion hostiles are broken guess the outposts still are as well. And God-forbid they fix them during an actual outpost event running

[frank trellis]

They are more concerned with blaming players for taking advantage of their inability to roll out a competent product.

[latent timber]

how are vger orion broken?

[bold mirage]

the decrease shield mitigation ability seems to not work, I can farm 72s indefinitely with the burned cheese crew.

[latent timber]

well that would be because leslie is broken, not vger XD

nah just klick insta finish with lat. it didnt consume prime/special currency but only lat. so you could in theory finish the entiore premium mirror tree. or if you had 1000 vger particles finish all 12 cost efficency nodes

[bold mirage]

couple weeks back I had to repair after each one with same ship and crew. Whether they broke leslie or orions I don't know

[latent timber]

they did. leslie crew basically makes you immortal under certain conditions. allowing to farm indefinete hostiles without taking any damage. not only vger but others aswell

cant have people getting stuff for free without buying packs lol

[bold mirage]

Doesn't matter, I guess the reason leslie's broken is same why wok joakin, etc. stopped working against outpost hostiles

[latent timber]

joakim never stopped working against anything lol. cadet uhura etc and chang did though

[fluid mist]

it's being called an exploit because the instant lat option was circumventing the material cost which scopley didn't foresee with there supposed "testing that they always do" which of course if it was tested it wouldn't have been released like that for us to take advantage of. Like ya wouldn't out an all you can eat buffet out for 1$ but say only big people can eat there and not expect an epic amount of people come to eat away all your food would you. Same deal with what happened something came out with an advantage that was given does it make it right no but I can't blame those that was able to take said advantage I'm more upset I wasn't able to be given that chance just to see if I would have been tempted rofl.

[bold mirage]

it's literally in the known issues

[latent timber]

yeh but not all the time they are right. tested it myself and his increase in ISO def is still there in the logs and when exported to 3rd party log viewer it also shows. he just never TRIGGERED in log. so i guess people just thought he was broken and reported it. but he never triggered before either. he just increases the iso def

[fluid mist]

well we all knew that had to be coming after all they're stopping us from using officers against newer hostiles why not have them stop working in outposts too rofl. Sorry I'll take off my tin foil hat now

[bold mirage]

Same ships and crew I usually ride out the 66 outpost but since couple of days I consistenly die at around 60th hostile. So he definitely stopped working

[latent timber]

and you didnt have either of the other officers on the ships that stopped working? 👀

[bold mirage]

uhura and laforge as well

[latent timber]

well since they dont work anymore it is probably them why you dont finish the outposts anymore. i mean they added up to like 30+ ish % damage reduction and if you had chang the chance for delaying complete weapons.

i mean check your outpost wave logs iso defense with joakim on ship, then compare that to having joakim on ship out of dock and then without joakim and c its ompare the values. for me its always been the same out of dock vs in logs.

wave hostile vs out of dock vs out of dock without joakim. log taken after the "known issue" was published

[neon atlas]

A lot more people quitting

[keen loom]

It’s the intention of Scopley to trim down to a handful of servers populated by spenders only.

Gonna be awesome when they get to the portion of players willing to spend - and even those players stop.

Generally people only buy garbage for so long!

So what then?

Maintenance mode!

[cosmic coral]

They fixed something!!!!! The War Room claim no longer takes forever, well done Scopely 👍

[keen escarp]

Yes this is so cool! 3 months for this, I really hope they will fix GS31 beam before Halloween!

[fluid mist]

they will stop spending long before they're the only ones left due to being to costly to show off there toys and to pvp they do this because 1 they have a spending problem and like star trek and 2 to show off how strong they are. the thing is is they all at the same power level it ain't fun anymore so everything just stops not the same dopamine hit when ya can't beat anyone you go up against after all

[fluid mist]

only took them how long which goes to show you things can be fixed its just how long will it take

[versed silo]

Probably unintentional 🙂

[river spindle]

Years in the making

[crystal furnace]

A lot more will quit if they ban those players for scopely’s mess up. Scopely messed up. Their programmers messed up.( used programmers lightly) Players found the loophole. Not the players fault. They should NOT be punished for it.

[keen loom]

<@&509690795536941056>

Can the player base expect bugs and lag to be addressed with the speed and zeal exhibited by Scopley in squashing this recent exploit?

A simple yes or no will do!

[bronze igloo]

Or how fast they squashed a merge because of players with big hurt feelings?

[finite mural]

The postponed merge has nothing to do with feelings

[cyan isle]

It has to do with one guy making a video. And not the hundreds playing on both servers.

[finite mural]

It has nothing to do with that either

[fluid mist]

they won't ever honestly answer that because then they'd have to commit to something which could cost them money either way they'll avoid anything like that

[thick turret]

Wow! I wish scopely fixed bugs as quick as they delete comments

[fluid mist]

lol no kidding right rofl

[thick turret]

Then what does it have to do with?

[keen loom]

I know. I feel like we should be the Dept of the Redundancy Department. Pointing out all the things we already know in the hopes of educating others!

[thick turret]

Or do we just keep making our own guesses using only the evidence we have before us.

[keen loom]

Evidence isn’t guesses. It’s facts.

[thick turret]

Wait? What? It is? Weeeeird

[bronze igloo]

Looks like the only way to get things done is making long winded YouTube videos. Do that then they finally give the reach around

[sage wadi]

Actually they work on our bug list. I can guarantee it.

Of course some point on it (years old bugs) will be ignored.

[cyan isle]

This company communicates about as good as my boss at work.

[weary elm]

I and some of my teammates are having issues logging in. I checked and my game was updated.

[fluid mist]

that department is a good idea too bad it doesn't work unless the people have ing things pointed out to them feels like learning and improving.

[viral atlas]

<@&509690795536941056> is there any good reason for territory reset? What happened to the promised territory buffs switches to keep ot at least a bit intresting... The only thing happened for months now is only the reset, nothing changed... another big fail... keep going... good job...

[sage wadi]

Thanks for the reminder 🫠

[keen loom]

Gotta be so demoralizing to dump creative juices into nothing but constant flops.

Gonna look good on the old résumé’s for Scopley employees to tout “ran game into the ground” “failed at every opportunity to listen and engage players in the ways they wanted to be engaged.”

Should charge for this advice.

[unborn cove]

Just wanted to say thank you to support because my GS for the past 4 days or so the beam has not been working and they refunded me my directives I lost 🙏

[vivid terrace]

<@&509690795536941056> I must be the only person in the game to not know what the so called exploit was 🤦‍♂️. Regardless though there was no need for the tone of the email communication especially with the game in its current state. The email alone will lead to some quitting

[fluid mist]

I'm happy to hear they refunded the directives i would want the gs to work as intended but hey at least ya got the directives back not sure what they'll be good for though if it ain't working right!

[thick turret]

Nice! Always good to hear when someone has a rare positive experience. Sad that it was because of the the ball being dropped on their part somewhere along the way. But i digress.

Simpauli came into our discord to squash the rumormill. Said the postponement of 710 > 76 merger was not to do with player feedback and assured us it was a technical issue. While it felt a little misdirecting, and a bit non-answer, i respect the fact he came to tell us himself. I also fully respect he can only say so much.
So theres 2 good comments. One for them helping this guy im replying to, and kudos for the reaching out.

[thick turret]

I agree. The obscurity of it felt like a threat. So then we are thining "did something i accidentally do that i may have not noticed, going to cause me issues or ban?" I dont even know what the exploit was involving. But frankly, with all the things broken in the game, not the best.

[cyan isle]

What’s the email look like?

[fluid mist]

that's a good question or was the email the same thing as the ping to whole community from yesterday. Not that it matters if it was an actual email between pickles and scopley thats personal and I would respect if the decision was against airing it in public

[vivid terrace]

It’s in the announcements section

[vivid terrace]

No just bad terminology from me. It’s the announcement made to everyone, although I think some might have got in in-game news as well, but I didn’t

[cosmic knoll]

email reads:

you (insert name) were a very naughty boy/girl/deciding,
you took advantage of our lack of testing despite the fact we lied and said all content was tested before release.
so now we are sending you to the gulag. and reversing your buildings.
please dont visit bbb or trustpilot, we dont want you to tattle.

kkthx bye.

[inner comet]

My understanding of the so call exploit as they called it is that they introduced the QoL feature of you being able to research in 1 click with latinum and that only latinum was taken away from you , that was it. So if you had the resources to research something and used latinum you exploited in their eyes. TLDR they added an untested feature that didnt work the way they expected.

[thick turret]

Yea. It was the announcement and was similar to the ingame news. Just poor verbage is all. Nothing too terrible

[rare vale]

Personally wouldn't care if territory went away altogether, and the buffs made available elsewhere.

[mossy trench]

Ragespending is the reason. They get us to fight, then some grandfather is blowing $700 because another grandfather angered him by blowing up his pixels

[near tartan]

there are so many variables which killed the merge - bottom line - all those variables equates to dollar signs in the boardroom - if the feedback/data risks their bottom line - an easy decision is to quash it instead of take the risk

[finite mural]

There really isn't

Had nothing to do with feedback

It was a technical problem on their end, and it's not canceled, only postponed until they fix it.

[near tartan]

not being transparent about how this is all playing out is leading the community to draw conclusions of "feedback". technical problems are consistent within this game, so not being open about the details on the same...again leads the erroding of trust that this is the sole reason why they are postponing the merge

[cyan isle]

I’ve lost so much trust. I don’t spend anymore

[near tartan]

also given the maturity of "merging" vs. the current maturity level of "incursions" ... specifically how incursions has changed and subsequently caused cancellations due to performance and bugs. it makes little sense that they would cancel a merge instead of incursions. this also somewhat points to the priority that we are better inserted into a test environment with bugs/problems, instead of moving forward with something which I assume "technically" has been more successful over the years.

[wooden wren]

I’m so frustrated with the lag and broken gameplay. We were promised improvements by the GM at the beginning of the year. But IMHO, the game has never been worse than this month. I must file a ticket every other day (Support is great at responding, but the can’t fix the game). I put up a 7-day shield and I’ll think about whether I want to come back. It is such a shame. I like the content. I’m willing to pay for the content. But the game is so broken, that it just isn’t fun anymore.

FWIW, I’m OPS 71 and Admiral of a 92 person alliance.

[glacial spruce]

Saying it's a "technical issue " is hilarious. It basically imeans the game code is such a mess that they can't figure it out, or they are so incompetent that they can't figure it out. Probably both.

Maybe they should blame the players on those servers for using an "exploit" to delay the merge.

[vestal pebble]

Fix your code, while using kirShara artifact your ship stops right at the moment of attacking and standing there like a happy customer while other picking them up (mirror space), its just so annoying man.

[radiant stirrup]

is that actually your account though... your account is in the mid 50s

[cyan isle]

My son’s account is 50.

[radiant stirrup]

bahaha i wont get into it here but your so full of it

[olive furnace]

[thin trellis]

one more night with terrible lag in EU. how do you expect ppl to do waves in such a condition?

[cosmic coral]

They fixed something else 😱

[torn dagger]

This is garbage. The normal pack gives more of everything else vs this "special one-time only" pack. \

[vestal pebble]

You going to start Outpost meta while outpost are broken? Did I get that right? You know the flow of tickets coming your way, right?

[vale scroll]

It's not something you have clicked once or twice by accident , everyone who was getting free research knew what they were doing. Players finishing off all their mirror research in one visit for example including premium tiers knew it was broken.

[thick turret]

For us that didnt know what they exploit even was, we didnt know and therefor couldnt come to such a conclusion

[vale scroll]

Whilst Its true If you didn't know, how could you be 'exploiting' it? It was pretty obvious to everyone that could suddenly complete all the research and not lose anything that it was broken. If you continued to finish it all then you were clearly exploiting the loophole/bug which is against the TOS. I'm playing devils advocate here, so those putting clown emojis above... you crack on pal. Only clown is you

[thick turret]

Again, not saying they were wrong about posting, not that it was right to use exploit. All i was referring to was the message that made the innocent ppl with anxiety like myself, feeling like they might have screwed up and didnt know

[daring wasp]

If this merger goes through they
Will lose players. Period. 710 doesn’t need to be merged with anyone. Especially a server 2 years older.

[stable cargo]

s20, Torgoth, broken armada, can't start blah blah, bad enough the 2 that work, folk won't speed. its 2026, please tell me why we still only have this one system and 3 armadas that take forever to respawn?? <@&509690795536941056>

[thick turret]

Frankly, 76 needs to merge with a younger server. I think becauze of the toxic history between the 2, it shouldn't be 710. But my problem isnt that, its one person having too much draw.

[daring wasp]

I don’t know enough about 76s politics. But 710 is a good healthy server and this merger will destroy it. Honestly I know a lot of players who will end up quitting or archiving their accounts

[vestal pebble]

Our server s30 has one too, it was few hours ago and I just checked it still broken the one on the right side.

[magic cedar]

My feedback on the sphere:

• where are the events that reward players for having purchased a sphere?
• The events rewarding the acquisition of a sphere have also been underwhelming.
• Even for the vengeance event, the sphere barely counts....
  -The loop itself is one of the least rewarding in game.
• the ship is terribly slow to upgrade
• upgrading it depends not only on purchasing it, but also on how many alliance members purchase it 🤢🤮

[glacial spruce]

Quick, tell me what number I'm thinking about right now. If you don't have god-like telepathy then you can't say what anyone knew when they did this. With no release notes, no one could say what was intended in the update. Except maybe you with your telepathy, I suppose. So why didn't you let everyone know? Apparently you knew what Scopely intended and didn't say a thing.

I didn't catch this bug. It's a bug, not an exploit. But it says a lot about Scopely that they could fix this two times quick, yet leave dozens of bugs in place for years.

[vale scroll]

Everyone who did it knew what they were doing. Once or twice maybe you can put down as unaware, but for example finishing 100+ mirror researches without using any materials or lat is an obvious exploitation of a loophole and no longer something you did by accident. This is the difference you're missing in your logic.

I realised after I did it twice, that it wasn't right, but then I have a brain.

Now please, hit me with another clown emoji.

[glacial spruce]

You're assuming everyone pays attention to what gets spent. If I'm upgrading a bunch of research I typically just keep going until the green arrows disappear.

Just because you look at things a certain way doesn't mean everyone does.

Personally, I don't make blanket accusatory statements unless it's a joke. Obviously you have no problem with it.

But you do you.

[vale scroll]

Riiight, so you can suddenly upgrade EVERY premium research for 0 Lat cost after clicking the 'Latinum' button, and nothing would strike as odd to you??

Scopely just being generous I suppose?

[cosmic knoll]

depends if you got millions of lat and a few thousand wont even register in the counter

[finite raft]

Why are people still arguing about this? Scopes screwed up, not for the first time, people took advantage of the situation, knowingly or unknowingly. The End.
Don't whine and cry that ppl figured it out and did what people do esp when they have no reason to not due to the many many persistant and revived problems in the game. Fix the error that someone made and move on. They can't claw these back like they did with the Crests in that one pick your pack thing they had a few months back. If premium dust is the biggest thing they lost out on big whoop.... I'm nearly done with that tree anyways as i would imagine most ppl that aren't slackers....

[vale scroll]

It's called a debate, this is what discord is for.. Feel free to view something else if you don't like it.. It's caused imbalance on my server, in PvP players have gained an advantage by using an exploit and needs to be dealt with.

Anyway, done here for now. I don't think people should be banned, the temptation to click free researches was overhwelming. but it does need undoing.

[glacial spruce]

Yes, because lag has never happened in this game. Right? I couldn't tell you how many times I've spent in game currency and didn't see it deducted until the next day.

[vestal pebble]

I am not a slacker but only halfway through

[vale scroll]

Dude, the mirror premium research is drip fed or pay to advance mechanic, everyone knows it takes either money or a long time and you can suddenly do 100 researches and you put it down to lag? It's comical to read... Anyway, enjoy your evening. 🤣

[vestal pebble]

Ftp?

[finite raft]

i'm not f2p but i have never bought any premie dust

[vestal pebble]

Same but how , oh wait I just started arena

[finite raft]

despite the many many many maaaaaany problems it has....
I ♥️ the Arena 🤣

[vestal pebble]

Yeah I started enjoying so much now

[sinful bone]

Oh come on.. Come on over. We will show you a good time I promise.

[tropic crown]

Hey I just had my daily claims pop up 20 minutes after I opened them!

[wooden spire]

Who gives a fudge? The game is in a terrible state, it’ll be shut down before too much longer.

I have barely any premium dust research done because it’s a 💩 mechanic and I didn’t know about scopely’s latest fudge-up until I saw the big scary and stern announcement that the hamster man made, but I’m happy for those who did and exploited the 💩 out of it. Good for them.

About time something good happened for some players in this utterly horrendously-managed game. I hope they all get to keep it. Feel the love.

[tropic crown]

Areas is the second worst throng in this game.

[humble furnace]

whats first? i can name a lot of things way worse then Arenas 😄

[tropic crown]

To me Starbases, they blew that concept so bad.

[humble furnace]

Number 1 belongs to this for sure. Worst thing they ever added, and still today i never used

[tropic crown]

I forgot that existed. 😂 and that they wasted time doing that is so sad. If they took that out of the game no one would notice.

[humble furnace]

so true 😄

[stone zephyr]

All that earnings and cant fix the problems 🧐🧐🧐

[tropic crown]

You don’t think those yachts are free do you? If they fix bugs that’s less yachts!

[vale scroll]

Lots of discontent on display, yet you're still here? Wasn't commenting on the general state of the game, just balance. Playing FTP on this game is already a huge challenge vs spenders, so we don't need thousands of FTP players with a huge PvP boost from this. exploit. So, with respect.. I disagree

[prime arrow]

Thousands of FTP players with a big pvp boost sounds like it would actually be really GOOD for the game.

[wooden spire]

Yes, that is correct, I am still here. I was and still am aware that you weren’t commenting on the state of the game, I was the one doing that — you can tell by my username preceding the message, for future reference.

The game is in the end stages of its rather tragic life, so why not turn that frown upside down and feel good for those players that extracted some pixel-based joy? 🫶🏻

[finite raft]

oh it def has many a problem. but i still love it.... just try thinking of it as family 🙂

[vale scroll]

Great if it was all of us, if Scopely say you know what heres (for example) 50k premium dust we screwed up everyone fill your boots then thats cool with me... otherwise we just created another division of imbalance. FTP, PTW and ETW (exploit to win)... Just means I participate in even less PvP, and as for Arena... forget it.

One thing about this game, is that if someone has spent a ton of money just to be better then I can live with that! They are paying for me to play free and they are welcome to the win.

Abuse of a game bug to get ahead despite my hard work.... I can't accept.

[muted shuttle]

You say you have a brain, but you decided to stop getting something for free…………🤷‍♂️

[fluid mist]

thats a great point there is players like myself that never ever use lat for anything other than quick upgrades during events for example. There has been many times for example during incursions for that research alb I have used so much lat to speed up research after research after research that I'm gone through millions of lat and yet I still have hundreds of millions left because I don't spend lat period. There is many like this in game so I agree with you we wouldn't notice if our latinum went down on a hundred or so research now a thousand research we might rofl. But @vale scroll is only talking about the mirrior research in his examples I hear both sides but there is variables he isn't considering and when you think about how many people buys packs and may not use latinum its easy to forget that people can do this and not notice latinum not getting used might be low percentage of people but still could be possible and shouldn't be discounted

[vale scroll]

Just experience, i'm aware of the games Fair play TOS....it's no different from any other game really and have seen bans happen in other MMO games i've played.. I know they're reverting this anyway so what would I have gained exactly? As it stands, I stopped after two mirror upgrades as i realised quickly it was broken and theres no way they would let me keep it anyway.

[vale scroll]

Yeah, you;re right and that's because in the brief window this was my experience of the bug. This isn't really about Latinum is it. .the research showed 0 lat cost, but I originally assumed it would take my special currency and skip the timer but the currency wasn't reduced at all.. That's the issue here.

[prime arrow]

I agree with you that Scopely has to do something to rectify this imbalance. There’s two basic options: rollback the exploits, or offer the exploits to all. I can make my peace with either option. But any discussion of “punishment” of players is silly. This was Scopely’s screwup, not the players.

[fluid mist]

this message here makes it very apparent that you're unhappy with what happened. Not just that it happened but thst you had morals that you chose to stick with and now you are more upset than you were yesterday at the imbalance of pvp players out there that are either better at pvp or further with research than you are. You literally say that if someone has spent tons of money to be better than you thst you could live with that. Then you go to say abuse of a game bug to get ahead of you is something you can't abide by. So it has nothing to do with that players got free research or that players who've spent tons of money are better than you it boils down to you didn't do it due to morals and you're upset other ftp players did do it thanks for clarifying this whole rant you've been doing for hours to us. Have a great day and I hope you can get stronger the way you wish to according to your moral code.

[vale scroll]

Well, that's fair... I wasn't advocating any punishment to players by the way.

[vale scroll]

Nothing to do with moral codes, I knew I would be wasting my time and potentially could get banned. I enjoy playing the game and my focus has been PvP, for which i feel on my server (before this incident) I was pretty good for a FTP player. This debate is a general one about this subject, and if people reply to me and disagree we create a debate. If you have a different opinion, that's cool but I am explaining from my point of view.

If this doesn't actually get reverted then there's not much point me playing any longer.

[fluid mist]

well to be fair with a lot of the bugs and lag issues and the constant nerfs of this damage to that damage or officers thst cant get used for new hostiles there isn't much reason to keep playing for most ftp is there because by time we get anything new to a decent level its nerfed or unusable. Which server you on anyways I'm on 17 btw

[vale scroll]

i'm on 109, yeah that's what i mean.. It's already a huge challenge as it is! If i had my way, the game would not have any PTW element at all, I know bills need to be paid but I would sooner accept ads! (controversial I know) but it is what it is!

I've accepted the p2w element, there's nothing I can do about that other than spend money if i wanted to catch up. Which is still an option. I don't fancy the idea of spending lots of money just to catch those who abused a bug. It puts me off the game entirely! I hope that makes sense.

[weak grove]

omg, every time i look in this channel to read some of the new drama, you are whining around here. Please, dude, stop whining, for the dear love of god 🙏 you whine and whine and whine about some players, while the real guys who are cheating on you are scopely and their strange anti-player policies, and you don't even realise it it seems. holy cow...

[vale scroll]

Wait, im whining now? Weren;t you whining the other day about ouposts?? and lag, you keep whining about lag.... Seriously, jog on...

Waaaahhhh the lag...

[weak grove]

go out, get some fresh air, touch some grass, hug a tree maybe, friend, it might help :D

[vale scroll]

Waaahhh but the lag

Funny, just looking through your posts on here.... ALL of your posts are whines... 🤣 Arena matchmaking, lag, more lag, outposts. more lag, Mirror universe sucks, fix the waves, did i mention lag?

[weak grove]

dude you whined on for hours here now xD

i write sometimes but not romans over hours xD

[vale scroll]

It's called a debate, people reply.. we discuss. Such a novel concept.

[weak grove]

some people discuss, you crossed the bridge to whining some hours ago xD

[vale scroll]

How can i be whining? The matter was resolved. This is discussion.. Anyway, isn't it lagging someplace?

[weak grove]

but anyway i'll be gone doing some more interesting things now and when i come back maybe your eyes ran dry :D

[vale scroll]

Sorry, i lagged out there. You been crying about that for 6 months or more.. Comedic.

[wooden spire]

You won’t win by mocking someone for complaining about lag, it’s one of the biggest issues affecting the game and lots complain about it - and rightly so. I do and will continue to complain about lag (and the myriad of other issues). My gripe is with the unscrupulous scopely, not the players, who all deserve medals for getting this far despite the state of the game as well as more free stuff.

[south rampart]

The lag issue is subjective. Some of my alliance mates will complain about bad lag when I have none. PC vs mobile, android vs Apple, even the area of the country one plays in could be a factor. To just blindly point at a server being the issue might not be the sole problem.

[vestal pebble]

Don't think reverting will happen to much work.

[wooden spire]

Thanks for interjecting to share that. Don’t know whose message you meant to reply to, because what you wrote doesn’t relate to what I wrote.

[vestal pebble]

Its not so simple as it sounds. Developer have to manually go into database to edit entry including all dependencies the original research created so you can imagine work force needed and most important the cost. Of course companies like these have in house software for issues like this but it needs regular update on new content releases and we all know the state of the game at the moment so I doubt they have working version that can do it automatically. But i am just out of job small guy so might be wrong. Anyway imagine your car engine needs to change gasket, in order to get to it the whole engine needs to be disassembled, same thing with data driven software. First wight the problem then cost of repair.

[south rampart]

Except you specifically said "lag is one of the biggest issues" and "you do and will continue to complain about lag". Keep living in your own world.

[wooden spire]

I said nothing about subjectivity or objectivity, although even the team admit to the lag problem so perhaps not so subjective. And the sheer number of players who complain in here.

I didn’t mention servers let alone blindly point at one, therefore I also didn’t mention servers being the sole problem.

I will continue to complain about lag, yes. And I will live in this world too. Is that you Connor? You naughty little lying rascal. 😄

[torpid cargo]

I will say….the game is running much more smoothly for me since the last maintenance update. Not perfect but better.

[south rampart]

Sounds like a laywer. Keep things vague and in grey areas and one can never be wrong. And no, my name is not Connor. No idea who this Connor even is.

[fluid mist]

I'd be way more concerned if they did tty to revert the players back to what they had before today who can say 100% that it would be exactly that scenario and not revert them further for doing what according to scopley is wrong. Also how could it be proven that either the specific players involved were all caught and only what was researched for free was reverted thats what my biggest fear would be after all if it was instant and free can anyone honestly say they remember exactly which ones they clicked upgrade on because I know me if I woulda done it I wouldn't have been paying attention I would have been click happy as fast as I humanly could have rofl.

[wooden spire]

If that helps you, go with it by all means.

As for Connor, in light of your initial post you should perhaps acquaint yourself with him since he’s the STFC head honcho, and watch his video from last year in which he talks about the lag amongst other things… 🙄

[vestal pebble]

Software can easily track parameters that were used during research so I can safely say they know who did what.

[south rampart]

This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU-anv2czjg He indeed acknowledges lag but never specifically puts the blame on themselves. A speech probably written by their legal team.

[steel ridge]

So did scopley ever actually reach out to players

[fluid mist]

probably with direct messages or will soon after all they're prolly looking into how far down the rabbit hole it went

[alpine linden]

been like this for 5 mins

[nimble pawn]

What toxic history between 76 and 710 do you think you’re referring to?

[thick turret]

Just hearing it secondhand. I just know there was enuf animosity that ppl still talk about it. I started around the time of the merger, so i didnt experience it first hand. Was still new and unaware of the politics.

[nimble pawn]

So maybe don’t bring things up in public forums that you’re uninformed about? There’s 0 history between the two servers. There are four or five players that were legacy 76ers that quit over time and regrouped on 710 years later. That hardly constitutes “toxic history” or “animosity” between two servers.

[thick turret]

Allow me to edit to avoid confusion. The toxicness i was referring to was involving 76s and previous 76/77ers that went to 710. Not 710 in general. I dont want my verbage to misleading to my meaning.

[nimble pawn]

See I can live with that - call me toxic all you want, but 710 is a good server that doesn’t deserve to be unfairly labeled 🤣

[thick turret]

The main thing remains tho. I think 76 needs to merge with a younger server to populate the g4/g5 range more.

[finite mural]

https://giphy.com/gifs/shop-iowa-gift-10RgsuetO4uDkY

[sweet meteor]

@rigid vapor Just a suggestion as a perk for Alliances that have reached level 60 which is currently the max level could you add a perk that level 60 has also the option to contribute Parsteel as well as having the Tritanium, Dilithium and Latinium options?

[tardy sky]

<@&509690795536941056> Since Scopely loves patting itself on the back for adding "QoL improvements", but nobody who comes up with said "improvements" seems to have actually played the game, ever, can I suggest a few that actual players would appreciate? They're all fairly simple, but would make a noticeable improvement to the game

• The ability to rearrange crew presets, and bookmarks.
• A separate chat tab just for the alliance armada notification spam, and for people to call.
• Being able to scroll ALL currencies relevant to a refinery/faction store instead of just 3 random ones. Bonus points if It displays the correct ones for that store.
• Cargo bay jettison. Since y'all are violently opposed to being able to get anything useful for the literal thousands of defunct and otherwise useless items cluttering up our inventories, at least let us bin them. Who knows, the game not having to index millions of useless items constantly might improve lag and stability...
• Either a "friends list", or at least let everyone in an alliance see all members online status. Restricting that to commodores and up is just silly.
• A few more relevant options to sort officers.
• Since y'all are also violently opposed to faction store quick claims, being able to pin favourites to the top of the list. Bonus points if they stay there after being claimed. Double bonus points if they remain in the same order.
• Being able to pin favourite ships and officers to the start of the list.
• Stop giving us more stupid avatars and frames, and give us ways to unlock the legacy ones, along with hailing frequencies.
• Either add more stuff to the transporter patterns list, or just merge it into the officer depot and let us convert TP's to officer depot tokens.

[vernal stone]

just adding injury to insult ...

LESS MOUSECLICKS = better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[terse lagoon]

Dear customer service, may you explain this? There's one free slot and I am not allowed to relocate there. Why?

[terse lagoon]

nearly Scopely did it. 🤦‍♂️

[severe osprey]

why the ore mining speed is 3 times lower that gas and crystal?

[tropic crown]

No no no on the transporter pattern to depot tokens. They would make it 1000 transporter patterns to get 1 depot token.

[tardy sky]

And if you've maxed all the TP officers that's still better use than them just sitting there being useless 🤷‍♂️

[cosmic knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> can players be gifted 1200 outpost directives (2 starts) so we can TEST whether certain officers are working/not working please?

its not a big ask, its doing scopelys job for them. also means no emergency maintenance or account rollback or accusations of exploits.

[fast anvil]

what system were u mining in for gas and crystal

[light sierra]

Your research?

[keen loom]

LOL - not happening. Scopley barely scraping by as is. Or so they want us to believe.

[winged snow]

Outposts have been so broken pretty much since it's arc ended... with FC sisko's unlock path behind this broken mechanic, I'm really expecting a comp chest with 40+ FC sisko shards to cover lost time. I'd like to also see a 1 shard comp chest per day until the mechanic and officers and apex barrier are fixed to cover future time lost.

[austere valley]

<@&509690795536941056> please convey to the devs following question: do you use brain when designing events? How can one compete in SLB if directives for specific armadas drop once a week and event last 2days?

[weary cedar]

So why do we still get the 'may require you to dock' warning?

[weary cedar]

They do use their brains....it's called "If people want to win they can buy the directives"

DOn't get me wrong. I don't like it. Because you can't really buy what you want effectively

[ripe hemlock]

programmers always only do 20% of the needed programming tasks to change something, then never test it properly, release the broken mess, let players find out and report bugs, then ignoring player feedback and never properly fix the broken mess

[austere valley]

Hell will freeze over before I pay more $ for incompetence that is this game

[simple pumice]

Love the lag that keeps my ships in combat for roughly 60 secs or more

[fast anvil]

what if hell is already frozen, would u drop cash 👀

[hybrid lake]

is that a joke

[lofty musk]

Kir’shara is breaking most of the time. Don’t know if it’s the atrocious lag still impacting the game or what but this game is quickly becoming unplayable.

[toxic coyote]

Scopely, has a budget for random videos, but not for bug fixes 🤦

[dusky yew]

Im not the smartest bulb stfc .. but this looks like way less value considering i was getting 84 uncommons of each type with a elite chips. Sure crystal option isn't to off but kinda takes away that choice thing that yall put so much value on. Why we consistently going backwards <@&509690795536941056>

[flint warren]

I see they brought back Emergency Field Rations to the event store. If those are the choices, that's lame. I can get that stuff anywhere and everywhere in the game... Change it back Scopely. The original choices were better

[civic quest]

<@&509690795536941056> I have finally, like many others, completed all officers in the monthly "Ahead of the Curve" event. You really need new officers in this event. At this point, I done working on these event tasks.

PS: While your at it, would you please replace overflow of useless Transport Patterns with helpful Officer Depot Tokens.

[fluid mist]

really your new exchange store for multiphasic tokens and this is what you think 1000 tokens are worth. You're gonna see a vast drop in pack sales considering what your exchange rate is compared to only getting 17k multiphasic per 100$ pack that means I can't even get 100 dolomide per 100$ pack and when I need 700 or more per research well you do the math. That's telling everyone its now almost $1k per mirrior research way to tell anyone who doesn't have it done this research isn't for you. Sorry math was wrong at 2nd look I'd get over 100 dolomide but rest of statement still holds true.

[rich vector]

Will we ever see a day without issues in this game? Everything seems broke on a rotating scale. You all fix one thing but it shows up again later that week. Maybe you should hand out daily "FRUSTRATION" chests, you know, similar to the current "uncompensated" chests.....

[cosmic knoll]

when unlocking sisko free would take 11 years ... scopely decide to break some officers to make sure it takes even longer. told you outposts was dead content 1-2 months after the arcs finish ... they were dead on release too

[heavy hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-drink-laugh-funny-thats-gif-11859512 A spend money event

[plain pawn]

I am getting increasingly frustrated by the number of individual pulls I have to make each day, mainly in Factions, but also from the horizontal tabs next to Gifts, and the Refinery in some cases.

Pulls take time, require loading screens, and feel like work which is badly compensated. Skipping animations does not help, bc the UX insists on taking forever to back out from the modal and gets confused if I back out manually.

I am considering quitting STFC, and this is the main reason. I do not enjoy spending more than 10min per day tapping collect buttons exactly the same way every 22 hrs.

[tropic crown]

The 7 day lag forecast for STFC:

Friday: possibility of low lag as it sounds like you managed to ruin incursion so no one may be playing that day.
Saturday : Massive lag
Sunday: Massive lag
Monday: Massive lag
Tuesday: Massive lag
Wednesday: Massive lag
Thursday: Massive lag

Currently it is laggy as hell.

[fluid mist]

is this like the usual forecast percentage we get from regular weatherman or is it actually a true forecast only asking because I can usally do a better forecast for the weather by looking out my windows compared to the professionals

[tropic crown]

I am sure I will have a better track record than the weather man lol.

[fluid mist]

lol so true we might want to also include having a better track record than scopley does unless we include broken content then we'll never be better than scopley roflmao @tropic crown

[vale scroll]

They aren't really issues, the officers were working before when they shouldn't have been. They are now working correctly, so Scopely need to break them again to 'fix them'.

[carmine marten]

Daily limit, and can’t even pull 2 at a time, with new emergency ration pulls. Can you please remove the limit and add sliders? (Or if you insist on a daily limit at least give a 2 pull option)

This also commits the mortal sin of a 24 hour cooldown, instead of 22 hours (or the rare boon of 20 hours). I beg of you <@&509690795536941056> can you please convey to the powers that be that no reoccurring claim should sit at 24 hours? Daily routine of taps and pulls is tedious enough, but 24hour cooldowns make it all the worse. Having a 2-4 hour window that’s basically a safe zone to do all pulls and not ruin timers is the only thing that makes the process bearable

[opaque steeple]

Hehe, I used to get my Khan/TP shards for the Sunday swarm event on Sunday, I get it on Thursday now thanks to a 24 hour claim window dragging it later and later over months since the change to this reward.

[keen loom]

Come on all. These are QoL improvements. Just not for the players. ><

[vale scroll]

Why have you edited Leslie? You guys really are something else. Think nobody would notice that 'round start' was swapped with the inferior 'beginning of combat' Do you actually want any players left playing this game?

[grave quest]

they nerfed leslie!?! thats like.... this must be a sick joke, right?

[fluid mist]

q.o.l. updates no one wanted or needed is only things scopley does well and usally it doesn't glitch up game usally that is.

[grave quest]

#FreeLeslie !!!!

[tropic crown]

I hope I am wrong but incursions is going to be a disaster with how bad of shape the game is in.

[vale scroll]

Used to be my favourite event, aside from current bugs they have ruined it and I will instead put on a long shield and play something else.

[subtle oriole]

Not been changed. watch old clips of him, ability said same thing back then, found one from over a year ago by Outside Views STFC, the ability says the same.

[tropic crown]

Yeah I was always active durning incursions but I am thinking I won’t like the changes.

[vale scroll]

Reaaaaaly?? 🤣

[subtle oriole]

Yes Reaaaly!

[vale scroll]

Doesn't matter when, it was changed. He will stop working soon along with the other officers they have 'fixed'

[mild thicket]

@tidal notch
RE: #⭐-official-announcements message

This was a bug that you released, it was a bug that your QA failed to identify and it was a failing of Scopely.

It is not a player's fault if you messed up, and while I appreciate this happens, the wording of this message suggests it's somehow our fault.

To be clear, this error is entirely upon Scopely, no-one else.

[vale scroll]

ALL game loopholes are the direct result of poor code....without exception... The TOS that you agree to before playing states you shouldn't exploit them. People did, the end.

[weak grove]

whats even crazier is that they said we get more out of it...

[mild thicket]

There’s no way to know whether anyone actually took advantage of it, or if someone simply clicked a research option without noticing anything unusual. Jumping straight to the conclusion that people were deliberately exploiting it isn’t justified.

The end.

[finite mural]

Sure there is. You click it once or twice, that's one thing, you finish off all your research without spending any special material, that's another.

[mild thicket]

That assumes intent you can’t actually prove.

Clicking it once or twice versus finishing all research without spending special materials might look suspicious, but it still doesn’t tell you whether someone knowingly exploited a bug or just kept using something the game was clearly allowing.

Without clear evidence of intent, you’re guessing, not confirming.

I was at work while the whole deal went down, but reading a message like this is not okay.

[ripe hemlock]

Stop blaming the customers for the companys faults.
Thank you very much

"You click it once or twice, that's one thing, you finish off all your research without spending any special material, that's another."
The LAG made me do that...

Q.E.D.

[vale scroll]

Why are you taking this personally? There are people who not only did hundreds of free upgrades they also bragged about it in alliance chat. If you weren't one of the p[layers who exploited this, why are you getting your knickers in a twist about it?

[mild thicket]

I’m not taking it personally - I’m pushing back on the assumption this is anyone but Scopely's fault.

[ripe hemlock]

^i second this statement

[vale scroll]

Its not a blame game, like it or not you agree to the TOS everytime you fire the game up.

[mild thicket]

Again, you're assuming intent that you simply can not prove.

[grave quest]

on a general level, it’s the communication it was immediately “egregious this” and “ban accounts” that. it wasn’t “we made an unintended change / major fail and now we need to correct it by temporarily taking accounts offline so we can revert unintended jumps in power”. it was an immediate “bad player bad” and not taking any responsibility for the fail.

[mild thicket]

Precisely

[vale scroll]

Where does it say anything about banning accounts? maybe I missed an update

[ripe hemlock]

they even talked about users should report/backstab other users

thats ridiculous and disgusting

[grave quest]

it was the in game news. they took it down now and i don’t have a screenshot.

[ripe hemlock]

they deleted their bs statement ofcourse

[cyan isle]

No one cares about upcoming content. You broke merges. So when will THAT be fixed? Your priorities aren’t ours.

[vale scroll]

They log everything so why would tthey need help? I know that because on numerous occasions when contacting their help they have posted exact times and dates of things i've done in game.

[mild thicket]

Don't you think it's interesting that bugs which benefit players are fixed immediately, yet bugs that have existed for 6+ months which hinder them are not.

[keen loom]

Did we not have a community manager or two? What’s up with moderators providing official communications? Did moderator change to a paid Scopley position?

Are CM’s just that ashamed of the product?

[grave quest]

pink backgrounds for literally 6 years 😂

[cyan isle]

They hate their players? And want us to suffer?

[fluid mist]

more like they hiding because they the official mouthpiece of scoplwy and they know how annoyed we are with thw situation right now but what you gonna do

[grave quest]

i would be so ashamed of working on stfc i’d try to get away with not putting brokely on my resume 😂

[ripe hemlock]

maybe they log everything but i assume they are too incompetent to read/understand the logs and extract the needed data.

when they screwed the alliance tournament for my alliance and we should have been promoted to higher league and didnt get our points we opened a ticket and asked for correction. their support told us "our logs show nothing" even after they got screenshots from our ingame progress and they did not fix that issue and closed the ticket.

[keen loom]

I agree on all fronts. However if the manner in which the community is being communicated with is going to change - that should well be announced.

Instead - we have MIA CM’s and a moderator posting official announcements.

So the questions stand. For Scopley to answer.

[vale scroll]

and once again, loose lips sink ships... people bragging and telling alliance friends. and not only that, if you are suddenly able to upgrade a few hundred researches that take premium currency it's a bit obvious no?

[outer vapor]

Why change things that work and not just fix what doesn't instead, oh dear

[ripe hemlock]

Currently only Arsenic is doing a good job here.

The rest is abscent most of the time and never gets back with updates or important infos or give wrong infos back.

[fluid mist]

On a different note doesn't everyone love this new post about alliance tournaments. No news about how much the exchange will be yet of old refresh tokens to new ones but tasks won't give refresh tokens anymore and only get 800 daily from claims. Not sure about everyone else but I very rarely ever get away with doing my 3 tasks without using 20+ refresh tokens so that means if you get my luck you will have to settle with low tasks that give no currency. Let's not forget new legendary tasks with new currency along with the old currency so now players will have to choose which tasks they aim for even more to get stuff lets just call this impossible q.o.l. update what it is and thats a censored word so I'll let you consider which one I would say.

[mild thicket]

It certainly demonstrates a level of disdain for their playerbase eh? a multitude of bugs mysteriously take months to fix, yet they've demonstrated they can fix a bug in a few hours.

[keen loom]

Yes. My post isn’t a dig on Arsenic. Rather it’s to understand the MIA CM’s and what exactly Arsenic’s role is - since it appears to be beyond that of a moderator - as the description indicates. Again - this is for Scopley to answer. Not Arsenic.

[ripe hemlock]

This game is beyond repair, its only a matter of time...
Thats why no one really invests cash anymore in this dumpster fire

[cyan isle]

They demonstrated if they “CARED” they could fix bugs in hours.

[grave quest]

honestly, i give the CMs the benefit of the doubt. they do seem to be MIA, but brokely may very well have them gagged out of fear of saying something “wrong” because even the overlords don’t know what they are doing.

[mild thicket]

Yup, precisely.

[keen loom]

It’s their paid job. So if that’s the case and they can’t accomplish it - that’s a different matter.

[mild thicket]

CM's are heavily restricted on what they're allowed to say without approval from management.

[cyan isle]

I believe they’re bleeding the last people dry before the game is done.

[keen loom]

The bottom line is official communications should be coming from official Scopley employees.

[cyan isle]

What they did is evidence of that. The proof is they can fix things. But won’t. And pushing for money. I’m not dumb.

[vale scroll]

This game was never built to last 7/8 years, Digit did a poor job on the code for this game and after years of updates and additions it's gone far beyond usable code. I think they're trying to fix it.. I did enjoy playing the game, but will quit if things don't improve

[grave quest]

let me take away any doubt and rip that band aide right off. it won’t. you might as well quit now. i’ve already soft-quit. i’m here for banter and to be a squeaky wheel. brokely doesn’t care any more. they are only trying to wring out the last few coins from the wallets of players. end of life is coming faster than you may think.

[ripe hemlock]

lack of communication is also communication.

this means they refuse to listen or engage with their playerbase/customers at eye level

[vale scroll]

I know thats not strictly true because they have been trying to fix the base code, which is why we have officer issues right now.. Officers are suddenly starting to work as per their description (WOK Joachim as an example). He was never meant to work on Outposts, and because he once did and now doesn't it has become an issue.

Interesting fact: did you know that Pike was never meant to be as effective as he was? He was bugged from the start and they couldn't fix him so they actually changed his description to match what he did.. as i said, Digit sucked.

[ripe hemlock]

i disagree with you here

my assuption is: DIGIT did a proper coding job, Scopely took over and screwed everything beyond fixable. Coders at Scopely are incompetent and clueless, the good coders left long time ago and the left coders only do packs and cosmetics and have no idea how to fix this game.

When DIGIT had full control over this product tha game ran very well

[vale scroll]

Thats utter nonsense, they couldn't fix Pike, or the Picard manouvre... they were a joke!

Go watch some OLD youtube videos of this game... it was a mess

[ripe hemlock]

but game ran better, didnt it?

[mild thicket]

"Trying" to fix their code? we've seen today how fast they can fix their code when they apply themselves. There is no excuse as to why so many long standing bugs exist.

[grave quest]

yeah nah. if they truly cared, things would be fixed. they only care if it is an error that benefits players. if it hurts players, it can wait indefinitely at the bottom of the backlog. if i delivered software with this amount and severity of bugs, id been fired long ago.

[grave quest]

that being said, the so called exploit was promptly fixed as it should have been. my issue was how it was communicated, th lack of responsibility taken, and the “egregious” blame put on the players.

[cyan isle]

A bug helps a player to be happy, they fix it in 60 minutes. A bug hurts a player, they leave it for 6 years. Scopley wants to hurt us

[mild cobalt]

No matter how much stuff you add, no matter how much content you cram in, no matter how many systems you revamp, none of it matters when the game itself barely runs. It is unbelievably arrogant that you would put an event in the game that is literally just "spend $600", when you can't even provide a basic level of service. Every month you ignore the instability, crippling lag, and basic systems being broken for years straight to push out another month of content that no one wants and no one asked for, you lose more players and more spenders. What a shame.

[mild thicket]

Honestly, working in software, if even half the issues that inconvenience players in this game showed up in something we delivered to customers, our developers would be pulling overnight fixes. Their professional integrity just wouldn’t allow that kind of embarrassment to stand.

[grave quest]

exactly. i’m a dev myself and i wouldn’t be able to even look in the mirror. i’d be so ashamed… Id get a mcdonald’s application cause i wouldn’t be qualified to do anything but flip meat.

[high whale]

As a senior developer myself. No code reviews, testing etc. from Scopely. Make salaries based on bug free software. The more bugs the less you get paid. Then they would respond... A scopely developer would be fired the first week at our company. A descent developer takes pride in his/her work. Zero bugs is the goal. You test, then test again...

[mild thicket]

I understand that no dev is perfect, and bugs get through code QA. I also get that QA's don't catch everything and sometimes bugs make it to live. It's the constant amount that is embarassing for Scopely, and the fact they've demonstrated today they /can/ fix bugs in hours if they apply themselves. So now it's very patently obvious it's a choice, not a technical restraint.

[ripe hemlock]

Scopely has proven multiple times that there is no QA department in that company.

[grave quest]

part of me wonders how many devs they lost / fired and replaced with ai slop. 😂 Recipe for disaster

[vivid nebula]

They have an intern out of school with a copy of this

[final tide]

How do they keep breaking stuff that directly applies to the events they are running at that moment?

[drowsy inlet]

you know things are bad when most people (at least in my alliance) dread any sort of "update", "revamp", "quality of life fix" or new arc even. Because the first thing that comes to mind and its usually the first thing asked in convo...how is scopley ruining things now and what can we do to pivot if anything.

[grave quest]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-damage-report-damage-report-star-trek-picard-gif-10345035609192949361

[ocean surge]

serious question why the actual **** are scopely deliberately trying to make people quit their game? litterally a bug that helps players immiadiately gets the same into emergency maintaince mode but ones that have been persistant for years "oh we are working on them"

[grave quest]

if players quit, less compensation when they announce end of life and server shutdown. #JustAGuess

[urban verge]

Over 20 specialty ships and you choose just 3 for the slb/sms. The borg sphere has turned out to be the worst release in a long time. And your response is to make it even harder for anyone to take part in events without spending. The game is truly dying.

[final tide]

All you will get then is a coupon for 10% off a Tshirt "I played stfc for a decade and all I got was this discount T-shirt"

[boreal flame]

scopely ...if you want players to play your game you should stop to hate them and slap their faces with every single release and patch

[vestal pebble]

I am thinking someone in control of communication between dev teams is not up to the task or lacking experience in this field. Its obvious some teams are making good progress but overall things are just too lose.

[boreal flame]

this game screams pay me or get lost....thats no inviting atmosphere

[ivory rain]

That's why the game won't last much longer... Scop received a warning from the EU and a lawsuit is underway in the USA.

[grave quest]

i refuse to spend a penny until:
lag gone for minimum of 6 months
no more pink backgrounds
no more impossible to play events if not dishing out the monies
better communication (both in accepting responsibility and quality of messaging)
better sourcing in general / improved economy
implementation of bug fix road map and adherence for minimum 6 months
etc

[vestal pebble]

Spending money is a preference in this game, pink backgrounds are probably due to graphics incompatibly and communication is done in-house dont think more information is coming other than game info

[fluid mist]

they dont even flip meat either they use a meat press so all they do is separate the frozen patties and push a button machine does the work then they scrap meat off the grill. I should know i worked at a McDonald's not proud of it but it was a paycheck at the time.

[somber hamlet]

I'd argue that the game is nowhere close to the original intent. It's been at least 5 years of just requirements creep as they chase after whatever is trendy in gaming. Is this an idle game, an auto-battler, a PVP territory game, a P2W gacha, a PVP arena game, a MMO with server raids? Who knows! The devs surely don't!

That sort of requirements creep happens with the C-suite just trying to press buttons until the money printing machine goes brr and the worker bees just try to staunch the bleeding.

[vestal pebble]

That was breach that need to be delt with, the whole game instability was at risk, so yeah

[lunar ocean]

Cool, so I'm guessing these new tasks are meant to keep the peasants out of Master League, huh?

[keen loom]

Nah. Anyone willing to spend $100 USD will be just fine !

[carmine yew]

Reroll Tokens are no longer earned from Tasks

I called it, your money grabbing has no limits. rather not take part than buy reroll packs!

[bronze igloo]

It’s a shame at its core the game is good. But too much bloated content to get profit. It’s dying and it’s their own fault. Quality over quantity? More grinds than ever before. Yeah they have efficiencies which are just doing other grinds. Sourcing for Tal? Never came and now he is nerfed to only work on things under lvl 60.

[opal orchid]

We all know the tournament makeover will not be beneficial for players. Please don't make it sound like it's gonna be great for us. We've been burned too many times.

[rare vale]

It really is a good game mired by unrelenting corporate greed.

[fluid mist]

multiple 100s because ya know they won't have many of the new reroll tokens per pack after all every new gimmick gives ya just enough to think its good but will either be very little or only x amount of the packs can be bought.

[fluid mist]

we all knew it was coming we have 7yrs of acopley greed with the game to draw our conclusions rofl

[versed kraken]

Seriously whoever at scopely decided to revamp AT needs to be ignored. Adding emerald chain milestones is great but most of the other adjustments are just extremely annoying on the face of them.

[fluid mist]

the new stuff in store is greatly needed. The problem is the new changes on how to get rerolls or no reroll in tasks and new currency is going to make all the new stuff that was good more effort than its worth

[carmine yew]

none of it will work anyway, look what happened when they decided to change Incursions.

Stop wasting time revamping and breaking content that works and spend it fixing the numerious broken things in the game

[keen loom]

The real problem is nobody at Scopley listens.

[fluid mist]

they listen they just do nothing unless it makes them money or they do nothing unless it costs them money it simply has to effect their bottom line

[keen loom]

Still - zero response on MIA CM’s and official communications coming from non compensated individuals.

[carmine yew]

just look how quickly they acted to fix the game when we could research without costing us mats so we didnt need to buy material packs

3 minutes!

[final plinth]

<@&509690795536941056> How low can this game fall? You literally make a spend event that rewards a bonus currency for gaining a bonus currency that is already sourced by spending.

What you could have done:

• Make an event that rewards for SPENDING multiphasic credits
• The options in that event store associated with that new currency should be in the multphasic store to begin with, with a lot of other options. You position multiphasics as a "rebate" or "cash back" options for using favorable purchasing store which charge less commission than the established "app stores". So make it a true cash-back and make all rewards available that are availabe via the pay stores. Easiest option: Buy 10 get one free - or whatever the exchange rate on multiphasics is supposed to be!

[short jetty]

Multiphasic Master - give us $600 to max one day in an event. Not happening.

[fluid mist]

you get multiphasic tokens from packs in webstore most I've ever seen is 17k in a 100$ pack so do the math on it maybe 17 exchanges on most of those items per full pack and yet cost to do 1 upgrade of stuff gonna cost way more than 17 exchanges

[somber hamlet]

They also do the scammy microtransaction tactic where 17k is just short of the second tier so you will be heavily pushed to make yet another purchase

[sterile pecan]

9 thousand things to do today! Really? You all (Scopely) DO NOT LISTEN! I’m over it. From now on you get dailies and nothing more! Tired of this mess, but have way too much time involved to just quit. 😢

[mild cobalt]

Bold of everyone to think they even use temp coders any more and not just AI. 😆 Works for the "technically it kinda works but not very well" feeling. We seems to be firmly in the end of life, milk everyone for every last penny then turn out the lights and disappear stage of this game. Sad. 😢

[somber hamlet]

The sign will be when they dump it to a life support company. The kind that collects aging MMOs and just maintains the servers.

[broken herald]

"Reroll Tokens are no longer earned from Tasks"

Alliance tournaments were the last reason I was playing. So, we now get locked into just having 8 rerolls a day - sometimes, it took me 20-30 rerolls just to get one thing I could actually complete.

My alliance was the only thing I kept playing for. Now, I won't be able to help it the only way that I could.

Completing a task should earn you rerolls. If I engage in this content, and it takes me that many rerolls to find a task I can do, this will only make me engage in it less, not more.

[proud narwhal]

<@&509690795536941056> this officer ability is worthless to anyone except new players

I know I have years and years and years worth of repair speedups...

limiter on repairs is sigma trit not speedups

[carmine yew]

dont worry im sure they will revamp repair speedups next and make all our current versions useless so we need to buy new repair speedup packs

[junior sierra]

You know, good point. As a 58 I can actually help my alliance in old tournaments. So many other events are “top” heavy, with a pittence given to lower level scoring. I can even barely help my alliance in the new maverick tasks. They are making it very difficult and I can’t imagine what people smaller than me ( L58) feel .

[carmine yew]

we wont even be able to get the new stuff they added to the AT. you will need to complete the new 20k tasks to get the new credits to purchase the new additions to the store.
There is no way them 20k tasks will be able to be completed F2P

[keen loom]

Of course not. Scopley had to reinvent ….. no wait. Scopley didn’t do anything aside add new currency for new rewards.

Dev hours needed: 0.00

[fluid mist]

I was about to say they dont invent anything they copy past and slap a new name on it or nullify a ability we have or officer we use make something new sure ya this is stfc we're talking about

[nocturne jasper]

for alliance tournaments how about more ship blueprints other than the ones that are allready there

[somber hamlet]

They'd be so mad right now if they played the game and knew what you were talking about.

[weak grove]

not to forget, they think of some new bugs and kindly include them with the corresponding update. so there actually IS dev work in there :o

[keen loom]

The point is - Scopley isn’t earning anything.

Are they desperate? Yes.

Are they entitled? Absolutely.

Are they earning? No.

[weak grove]

you also forgot the l:
Are they learning? No.

[wild hearth]

Congratulations to the limited number of Alliances in Master League getting the new AT reward options. Scraps and a kick in the teeth for everyone else

[glossy jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sue-lawyer-case-cat-hat-gif-9688693

[vestal pebble]

The benefits worth the change in rerolls, you will benefit a lot more from power creep plus all the new stuff in store, I wellcome it, but thats me

[finite mural]

assuming you can actually do a legendary task to ge the new stuff

[vestal pebble]

I guess we will have to see it, something to look forward to

Its has been proven that most pay tp play events can be done free, except for that miltiphasic event

[compact terrace]

i noticed the new alliance tournaments refresh (in a coming update)... but I assume its still got the miserable scoring inequities between tasks???!!!???