💬-general-feedback

[tropic crown]

You would think by now you could fix the retrieving issue XLSB.

[gilded adder]

Yeah that's a game killer for me and I have no interest in playing a game that outright makes it impossible to win an event

Sad because I was going to sink £100 into the game and get my cube today but now I'm going to get a new ship on sto

[upbeat jungle]

There is no option to buy forbidden tech Orion Cargo Transporter? I can’t find it in the store.

[finite mural]

only source was the first territory pass, they haven't given it a store purchase yet

[red cliff]

@tidal notch ever since the video button came out that replaced the help button, i've noticed a SIGNIFICANT DROP in people clicking the help button. even i have been just ignoring it sometimes. please stop replacing actual useful buttons with non-useful ones

[limber mesa]

it's just a replacement of the news button.
it only pops up when there's a new video/news item, and goes away when you click it.

[thick whale]

Please do something about the spawn rate of Silent Enemy hostiles. Far too slow.

[limpid sluice]

@tidal notch this is really important as an idea, we really do spend 20 to 30 minutes collecting all the refines etc every ( in my case morning) time. Just a simple way to click to include a button in a refine all presets button...

[fallen topaz]

Every pack is nearly $100. Unless you live to play this game and have nothing else to do, the prices are absurd by comparison to every mobile game I've played thus far.

[tropic helm]

And comes back when you log back on. I've click that video button a few times since yesterday

[bright grail]

Why pay MORE for a pack for this game than you pay for an ENTIRE console game?

[humble furnace]

Why pay for any game when you can get a stick and hoop for free 😂

[bright grail]

Go back under your bridge, troll.

[humble furnace]

🤔 what? What is your problem, dont go making stupid remarks like this

[bright grail]

That would be you making stupid remarks, chucklenuts.

[thick whale]

Case in point. 40 minutes to get a hull worth of hostiles.

[slender monolith]

Why bother with a hoop and stick when everyone can go blind and give themselves hairy palms?

[humble furnace]

I simply said the same thing you did how is that a stupid remark? Don’t go around insulting people on discord. It’s uncalled for !

[wild fossil]

Watch out @bright grail will call you a troll

[sly belfry]

Can you look at the spawn time for the Xindi armada? As there is only 1 system the timer should be low and there should be more than 1 to 0 armadas in the system

[real fern]

I cannot attack someone 8 levels below me but got absolutely slaughtered by someone 30 levels higher than me & a ship 312 million higher than mine. 🤷‍♂️

[weary wolf]

Why does the Threat from Beyond event continue to try to give shards for officers that I have already maxed? Transporter patterns should be given in that situation!

[wild fossil]

They are given the graphic just doesn't show it

[remote flume]

It pops up way more than the news button… plus, no one likes the news button either! If anything, maybe it could be placed to the side so it doesn’t take up space. Or maybe it could become a tab like the event store so it doesn’t act like a pop-up you HAVE to click on to get it to go away.

[warped valve]

im always amazed how bad a model can look like if you really try

[thick whale]

If nothing else I'd love an option to turn it off in settings

[slow mirage]

Hi ya'll!

Recetly leveled up to ops 39.
Can you guys please help me unlock the mission Dark Space?
I have no idea how to find it 😅

[misty bluff]

Just keep plugging away at the story missions(gold bordered ones) it'll pop eventually

[silk charm]

It's a part of your main mission questline (the ones with a gold border you can't archive) - see image for a list. There's a mission requiring datapads slightly higher up the chain:
https://stfc.space/missions/1484131634
the actual mission dark space:
https://stfc.space/missions/1665671882
damaged datapads missions:
https://stfc.space/missions?f=$name=%26res:1314177008

[slow mirage]

Like Ancestral Answer? @misty bluff

[vale wasp]

That's the one to push.

[slow mirage]

Whoohoo!
In that case I only need to work on 5 missions 🥳

Thank you @misty bluff @vale wasp @silk charm @vale wasp

[sly belfry]

I just want to say that the Armada speedups in the best thing added to the game since Freeboters loop. Thx

[ruby cargo]

Thanks for the comp gift which is completely useless as I and many others had gotten the broken rod already so the comp gift is useless.

[true zealot]

Laughs in s31 and exborg free prime tokens

[viscid hill]

There are way too many different currencies and separate grind loops going on. I am luckier then most and have several things maxed out and can ignore some of the stuff. Still takes awhile to click through everything and do the grind.

[carmine pollen]

Hi everyone… I finally got a monoveen …. If I take it to Texas space , and they target me… does my shield drop it the same way as they drop when I target them

[slender monolith]

The gift wasnt really meant for you, it was meant for those that got given the wrong points and were short for the overflow.

[quaint siren]

No. The sentries don't have that ability, only the ones you have to manually attack. When you click on the hostile, the window that pops up will have an icon in the bottom right that tells you what it can do.

[wild fossil]

Why would a bot attack a UPC miner? It's more then likely an alt account

[brittle reef]

I don't know, but it's strange. One ship with one account, and the other with the second account? In the same minute or better yet in the same 5 seconds?

[vale wasp]

Not on here, naming and shaming isn't allowed.

If you want to report players breaking the ToS, contact CS with your evidence. #👽-how-to-contact-support

[carmine rapids]

I don't know where or how to obtain subspace relay keys needed to build the subspace relay

[finite mural]

They're sent out once you're ops 25 right before incursions

[carmine rapids]

I didn't get any keys only subspace relay upgrades

[finite mural]

were you 25 before incursions started?

[low oasis]

Can you please adjust the times to make all events show up at the same time instead of dailies an hour later.

[vagrant sail]

What is going on it hangs at 20% loading and I keep getting a "Failed to login error this happend before and I had to remove and reinstall after repairing didn't work and now it's happing again.

Has no one seen or heard of this before? I put a ticket in the last time it happened and got ZERO response

[somber orchid]

So will there be any clue about the new arc tonight ?

[vagrant sail]

why is no one answering my chat ticket???

[finite mural]

how long has it been

[vagrant sail]

a quarter of an hour

[livid stone]

May take up to a week... just helping you set expectations 🤣

[vagrant sail]

1st WTF 5:00 minute slow mode? Really???? and what , I'm supposed to stay in chat for a week? people spend good $$$ on this game and this is the kind of support they give their customers???

[burnt gazelle]

Incursions used to be only source, if memory serves

[finite mural]

Feedback channels have always had the slow mode, they're not meant for discussions, just providing feedback and moving on.

[jaunty prism]

Just gotta keep adding new stuff to grind for lmao

[livid pasture]

So, is this gonna be like the treasury as in no point unless you cough up $100? Because I’m not interested if that’s the case. If we can actually open it (more than twice a year) f2p, then it looks great. Building looks good though, if it has decent part sourcing.

[woeful nymph]

The production quality and delivery of the War Room video is great. I feel this feature will increase the power gap between whales and moderate and below spenders and will cause the game servers to become wastelands. You folks better put some heavy constraints for scoring on these events or you're going to loose a lot of players. If I wanted to play EVE I'd play EVE.

[peak fox]

Big surprise the “what’s next” is not fixing things, who would have thunk!

[wet meteor]

People play the game as it's Star Trek and they like Star Trek... many have commented on the tacked on feel of the the PvP and it's utter imbalance and bad design... so instead of fixing the PvP that's already there, you add more reasons for people to quit? That's certainly a novel approach to making a game remain relevant...

[tropic crown]

Please stop adding new content every update. Stop trying to force PVP. PVP is not fun when I am can be hit by people with ships 10s of million higher than my best ship. Brackets for PVP and events are completely unbalanced to favor the whales. You obviously lied when you said quality over quantity. Every update bring a new grind. This is a game not a full time job.

[dense prawn]

I see we've gone for quantity again this arc with more new nonsense. Any chance of some quality in there, even a tiny little bit???

[unkempt roost]

please stop calling it pvp. It is simply players attacking players and calling it pvp just let's them continue to pretend they have a working pvp system. PVP games attempt to power match and restrict attacks by relative power. Scopelys player on player griefing system is anything but that.

[humble wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[livid pasture]

So many whiners here. Ignoring the PvP aspect of the game is not the way to fix it, so this is good, if the common player can get the rewards more than twice-ish a year (like treasury).

[tropic crown]

Good point.

[tropic crown]

As someone pointed out this game really doesn’t have PvP. The imbalance in bracket and power remove any real chance for actual PVP. You can’t ignore the games PvP if it doesn’t exist.

[finite hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-maguire-cry-gonna-cry-spider-man-spiderman-meme-gif-144908065341776122

[livid pasture]

You need to recheck the definition of PvP. Just because you don’t like stfc’s pvp or it isn’t good, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It exists, and it should exist. Sure, it needs improved, that’s why this arc has great potential.

[humble wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/farmer-farming-farm-burgerplanet-burger-gif-378448754723554758

[finite hollow]

they way than scale it is, if someone hits a lower player they get less points? and if you hit higher up's you get more, simple really. The building idea itself is a really good one if you think about it. Also you can kill higher up players.

[drowsy oak]

https://tenor.com/view/subrote-star-trek-klingon-judging-judge-gif-22019953

[outer lichen]

Good point.

[sacred garden]

The new features is only slightly intriguing, I’m not much for pvp never have been with internet games for its all about the money and nothing about ones actual skills. I can see how this is going to inspire a lot more of the bullying that happens in the game were high lvl players bully the weaker lvl players for the easy pvp points . As a gamer I’ve always looked to challenge myself , I find this new feature interesting but I can see how it’s going to promote a lot more of the in game bullying against low lvl players and how it’s going to make things harder on free to play players. Really hope to be wrong but more likely I’m right since every pvp event it’s always whales hitting the easy to kill players instead of challenging themselves

[coarse sundial]

why are we adding more stuff to game we do not have time for or need please fix bugs

[humble wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/callof-duty-cod-mobile-crying-sobbing-gif-25228987

[cosmic knoll]

so now scopely is trying to force pvp with a new building and perks ... there is no pvp because its not balanced

dont you understand scopely? ppl dont like participating in things that have ZERO chance of success.

puting it 'onto the pvp centric players of alliance' ? say fairwell to even more players.

we've told you constantly for 5 years how to fix pvp, and everything you do kills it even more

[lethal badger]

Have you seen the video? "Tactical Warmonger Research" increases base damage against players by 600%, up to 3000%.
Obviously, higher level players, and/or whales (depending on whether it's merely level locked, or if it's P2W), will have higher tiers of TWR, making the PvP even more unbalanced. 😦

[coarse sundial]

blah blah blah socpey want $

[digital flare]

It seems like if Scopely were going to try and fix a PVP element in the game, it would be Starbase Assaults. We have specialized officers for that and a bunch of researches specific to that and no one does it. Seems like that would have been the area to "fix".

[finite hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-door-is-open-you-may-leave-gif-15357849

[lost robin]

Is there a trick to getting server transfers to work?
lvl 5, picking my server, ships recalled, it says it transfers, game re-loads and im back on OG server.

[cosmic knoll]

heres the pvp fix scopley, and really try hard to understand it:

brackets

think that explains it best.

[coarse sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-pokeball-gif-21700553 make sure no one build new building

[digital flare]

I understand why they don't do the brackets thing. Too many players wouldn't be able to target other players or you'd have the same 10 people hitting each other. The problem is baked into the game because they designed it so that power scales too much too fast. It shouldn't be that a 35 can't attack a 40 or something like that, you should just make it so that the 35 can actually HURT the 40 in some meaningful way.

It's a bigger issue for grade-boundaries. G3 vs G4, for example.

[burnt gazelle]

PvP needs to be redesigned not nibbled around the edges. The fact that it entirely depends on Carol Freeman or previously ST deployed and someone shooting first means it is broken. It is also broken when even before that it depended on a crew mismatch so that if I was equipped for hostile grinding, a PvP crew would kill me. Some may call that strategy, if it is, it is decidedly one sided. My 2 cents: The complaints/requirements people share require a match-based arena-type system. Have people deploy ships and crews to a list, let people select who they want to fight. Edited to add: The arena could be designed to be on another server hopefully reducing/preventing load on "main servers"

[cosmic knoll]

wheres the arena you said was coming scopely?

[coarse sundial]

tuesday lol pleace your bet please please your bet dt 4 hrs or 8 hrs to fix it?

[ornate pecan]

Scopely can you hire Support people that actually respond.. over 2hrs and this guy hasn't responded from his initial hello.

[junior sierra]

Let me guess, war room $100 to unlock with $100 upgrade packs. Available to grinders in 3-6 months

[coarse sundial]

+£100 for prime

[junior sierra]

Of course- tactical warmonger. No drip.

[coarse sundial]

We recognize that not every Commander feels the Klingon warrior spirit driving them, but the War Room facility will provide excellent bonuses regardless of your participation in the event. makes no sence allaince thing is team work but i can just have cat nap in event and be rewarded?

[sullen dust]

so I went through 3 months worth of feedback. never once read of a more pvp based system. You guys just do your own thing and really think nothing of feedback. Even the video you made for YouTube looks unprofessional and like that guy came from a party.

[junior sierra]

Same as all alliance events probably need to at least participate 🤷‍♂️.

[coarse sundial]

oooooooo do we get war medeals for extra £ scopey could be on a cash winer with this one

[cosmic knoll]

if scopely want to make money, a $20 💩 emoji HF
that would make scopely $10M

[soft vigil]

Cat napping is excellent for waiting to get your ten min. Rewards. I asked for a tap-it button to drop it to a Daily Goal cache. Then I just set a timer for whatever comes up 1 to 4 hours. (Stop typing while I’m typing) Suggestions are nice, but some need more explanation that this place has to provide

[humble wharf]

They already called me a warmonger once on my server... so man... I sure hope it's P2W.

[gusty fractal]

"we" need power to kill hostiles, "we" need HHP e SHP because "we" must kill hostiles, "we" need this, this and this because of hostiles. It's ok but "community feedback" has ignored maths behind the game and it's no longer the time for complaints.

Brackets were good without ship buffs to kill hostiles: now they are insane but maths is math and if y=f(x) then y=f(x).

[next haven]

War room is a nice idea but if you don't correct pvp brackets people will hide in bases.

[vivid quarry]

💯

[mighty merlin]

Way to go ... screw with small alliances yet again ... another nail in the coffin helping the big bully alliances

[last nest]

its not hiding its not wasting resources for the pleasure of mostly people too invested into a mobile game

[vivid quarry]

We know Scopely cannot do pvp from the Talios pvp events. Grouping an ops locked ship allowing players with ships 5 times the power of players who cannot build it to that level

[next haven]

Regardless of how you want to look at it and higher level players, if pvp brackets aren't rebalanced. This will flop.

[last nest]

good i like when they flop tbf incursions are like 92% day off for most of the server lol

and payers crying because they got baited into micro transaction hell is my cup of joe entertainment

[twilit slate]

More "quantity", more to do, more loops, more currencies - FFS Scopely, take your foot off the gas, your game is already too complicated, too involved, and takes too much time to get anywhere.

Less is more they say, but that does not seem to be the Scopely way.

[rare vale]

Not looking forward to the War Room. Not everyone plays for PVP, but they're pushing it because fighting = $$$ for them.

[cyan arch]

I hope "War Room" brings broad range of pvp then we can scrap that thing called roe 🙂

[next haven]

True and as it sets those players still get the benefit of the resources. I like the idea, I really do, but scopely doesn't listen to daily players that dont drop a ton of coin. As a result they have shown with history, this will not go as planned and will enjoyable. So much potential with this game and this event.

[wild fossil]

You have RoE? 😂 My server scrapped it 7 months ago

[cyan arch]

oh lovely!
our's is a mining colony 😦

[heady cedar]

More forced pvp? Looks like this new arc might be the thing that makes me quit... 😒

[wooden spire]

When is this gonna be fixed? So slow waiting for the shards. When?

[azure dagger]

Scopely just seriously stop with the new stuff

[sullen dust]

why does it seem Like our feedback arrive at scopes mail room in braille?

[frosty tinsel]

I don’t want to watch annoying off site videos of what’s coming. Text please

[nova sierra]

Here's how I see it playing out. One week per monthly arc, high level players (HLP) will attack every low level player (LLP) they see so they can earn their rewards. ROE will be ignored, if not outright rescinded. LLPs will be unable to defend themselves, therefore unable to complete their dailies, and unable to complete arc events. They will just shield for a week, or quit the game altogether. HLPs will complain that they have no LLPs to kill, and some of them will also get bored and quit. So what you end up with is a smaller player base of HLPs who also eventually get bored, and ask for more events and more complicated loops. This drives away players who already think the game has gotten too complicated, and discourages new players from joining.

Well, whatever happens, I'm sticking around to watch it all unfold. The whining will be epic, and when the warp nacelles come completely off this game and it goes spiraling down into the fiery depths of some distant star, I just wish I could see the faces of the people who spent so much money on a game that no longer exists. 🤣

[stoic crane]

I think they should fix the fight levels, it is not possible that a level 43 can be hit by a level 70, the difference between the power is illogical, it is almost 27 levels of difference, or another example that a level 28 can be hit by a level 43, it is approximately 15 levels of difference, now what happens with this that a level 28 will not have a 4g ship to defend himself and you are building a sally, or that a level 43 that has just built a 4g ship will be hit by an enterprise e , first you have to balance the fight levels.

[last nest]

you forgot the part about servers getting merged and people complaining that the player base is getting small

[jaunty prism]

As far as I can tell this is just another product of Scopely's weekly "How do we force players to PVP" brainstorm sessions. You ever notice how every time they run a PVP event it's slightly different as they try to force PVP on people and prevent server ROE from getting in the way? Scopely doesn't like when servers are too peaceful because then they don't get frustration spending. And as often as they try to force PVP they still never succeed at actually getting the sort of rampant PVP they want.

[frosty flame]

Is server maintenance to night or next week?

[torn basin]

Tonight

[nova sierra]

They don't want to balance the brackets, because that's not what the HLPs want. They don't want to waste a hull fighting peer or near-peer ships. They want to kill a bunch of LLPs without wasting a hull. It's the same thing a lot of people do with environment hostiles now. Park a big ship in Augment space and autokill a couple hundred reds without losing much hull at all.

[lusty pollen]

Can anything be done about a specific player (or 2) that continually harasses another lower level alliance. To the point where they are actively looking for our base system just to keep tabs on when a shield goes down for them to raid? Not an entire alliance, but one, maybe two players of the largest highest level alliance who are acting alone, and specifically targeting a low level alliance of not many people. 😰🫨🤯😵‍💫🤕😤😒🤷🏼❓❔

[nova sierra]

That's exactly what it is. What's going to happen when people can't complete their dailies, or the daily Battlepass events? They will run out of materials much more quickly and be forced to buy them isf they really want them. They won't be able do complete the Battlepass Overflow, so they won't get free dealing rods. Now they have to buy those too. And to remain competitive, they will have to spend real world dollars to level up and complete researches, buildings, and ships.

This doesn't even take into account the alliance versus alliance wars that this will start that will spill over outside of the War Room event. I've been through an alliance war, and it's not fun. Can't mine, can't kill reds, can't do much of anything. As you said, this will encourage frustration spending just to be able to accomplish the goals that you have set, that you used to be able to do for free with a little gameplay.

It will be glorious to watch.

[cosmic knoll]

unfortunately whales are protected by a money shield, they can get away with everything except publicly confessing/tubing stuff scopely dont want public

[jaunty prism]

Wrong channel ( #🌌-galaxy-chat ) but also shield or share. They're targeting you because it's easy and/or you did something to be worth spending all that time looking for. Shield up and they'll get bored.

[nova sierra]

I can't wait until this game gets shelved, and all the whales come out and spill everything that went on behind the scenes.

[tropic crown]

Apparently Scopley hasn’t thought of this or is afraid the whales will get upset they have less people to bully.

[lusty pollen]

There was a miscommunication about an armada from MONTHS ago (last year before the holidays) that resulted in one of his team attacking one of ours, unprovoked, because we pulled an armada before he could. So we hit him back and left it at that. Well, he didn’t like that, and had our current problem stalking us since. We’re almost always shielded, and only miss re-upping when real life happens to “get in the way” of a re-shield. Even then, the opening to hit is never more than an hour or two, but he knows that because he’s literally been stalking every system we’ve moved to since then looking for us, and blatantly taking out ships in systems for no reasons. I get the PvP thing, but we don’t particularly partake in PvP in general, and have done nothing since. He’s literally doing it to tick us off. Frankly I’m just sick of it, and am almost just done.

Now this “brilliant” (with as much sarcasm as I can muster) idea for the PvP building and crap that’s gonna make this worse? Can’t say I’m enjoying this game much at the moment..

[stoic crane]

well we know that the biggest $$$ income is for the whales but it has to have the right balance it is not logical that someone 15 levels higher than me or 27 levels higher than me can beat me when I do not have access to that kind of ships or improve is why new players to see such disadvantages leave because I would spend money where I have no opportunity to defend myself and I have been told by new players who leave for that reason but of course I would like to know the opinion of what changes in balancing both daily tasks competitions, as events more than all individual that of ally. @tidal notch , @tacit obsidian

[cyan arch]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-warning-eye-illuminati-theories-gif-16152529

[last nest]

thats why you dont spend unless you are going to take care of your self or spend it immediatly

[jaunty prism]

They've thought about it. That's why alliances exist. You get attached to your alliances and the people in them and don't want to leave them. Every aspect of the design of all of these games is very carefully designed to hook you in and keep you either spending or tolerating it.

[tropic crown]

It’s was sarcasm of course Scopley thought about it and rejected in an effort to bleed people dry.

[ripe thicket]

The war room will be a horrible addition that only gives bullies and harassers permission to grief more than they already do and there is no incentive for them not too. This is just a few more nails in the Coffin to casual players.

The only way to prevent this is if the pvp is in specific systems or part of tc takeovers. And even then, money rules this game.

[cyan arch]

specific systems = win trade not really fighting isn't it?

[tropic crown]

Where is the fighting in PVP in this game? For most part it’s one sided slaughter.

[tepid bramble]

Anyone who says this is a pvp game is ignorant of the term. This game is not, nor was it ever a “PVP” game. It is a numbers game. Numbers paid for with time and lots of money. Anyone who says differently is either A) selling you a line; B) compensating.

[cyan arch]

now and then I am having fun during station defence and incursions. doesn't matter how big your opponent is, a Realta can be very annoying.

[livid stone]

PvP in stfc is bad mainly due to a couple of issues. One, there is no bracketing or matchmaking that makes engagements risky. The pvp is completely one sided in most cases. Two, the rewards for normal pvp are a joke at best, even in incursions. Scopely could fix both these, we will see if they do.

[ripe thicket]

Have you played the game? Pvp is so broken and boring that most fights are over with first volley much less first turn.

[peak fox]

It’s expensive math with starships.

[sacred garden]

Let the betting begin on how many times scopley breaks the game tomorrow lol

[lusty pollen]

Then there are a lot of people “compensating” in this game.

[unique forge]

While I like the idea of the war room more specifically for the event to be during an incursion, it would have been much better to add a building where we could trade in all our useless BP and old currencies rather than another “Treasury” type building

[cyan arch]

I didn't say pvp mechanics is perfect or a okay even if matters. What I am saying is pvp is in designated system is just a win trade. better not to have those pvp events that people shout in gc saying "pvp in xyz".

[tepid bramble]

If the server isn’t filled with folks “compensating” then THAT is exactly what 90% of folks are going to do anyways. Folks gravitate to peace and stability not chaos.

[cyan arch]

my opinion, I can't imagine a game without chaos and mischievous people exists other than hay day and alike games of course. if you give a weapon to group of people in a game or real life there will be chaos and war and killing.

[red cliff]

More useless PvP attention in this game so that whales can get mad and spend? This game has completely broken fighting because it's all PvAFK

[lusty pollen]

Unfortunately this statement is not true people are as equally drawn to creating chaos for the sheer fact that they can. They have an insatiable need to bring chaos to others since they can’t manage they’re own life and are likely miserable themselves but refuse to admit to themselves that there’s something wrong with them.

[ashen spear]

When does the quality vs quantity start? Based on what I am seeing this is gonna be the same quantity push vs little quality.

[woeful nymph]

No, it’s not a win trade, it completely based on the size of your…..wallet. I was lumped into the same system as an ops 64 for incursions. There is no win trading there, only sadness and repair bills for me.

[solar copper]

Win trading with ops60+ is easier than you think....they have ships in a wide assortment that if worked properly could save you hours waiting for someone your own ops to have that you can beat

[nova sierra]

Other games I've played, and I'm sure many of you have too, that I find enjoyable are the PvE games that have PvP elements available, but not mandatory. Build yourself in PvE, test your progress in PvP! That was fun! This game, they are forcing PvP. Oh sure, it was available. ROE on servers that appreciated the lore made it fun and playable, in the beginning. Now, they are forcing PvP. That's not fun. They're going to wreck this game, They're going to wreck this game for the sake of the whales, and they're not going to realize it until it's too late to save it.

[last nest]

haha you must think every server has people happy irl (and not mad at the world so push their frustrations on video games)

[nova sierra]

Think what you want, no skin off me. I have talked to a couple high level former players. It's rather interesting what they have to say. They know it's all going to come crashing down. They also know, that when it does, things will get interesting,

[fossil bolt]

Scopely again trying to milk money out of it's players forcing them into PVP. Just the usual nastiness. My expectation would be that it will be so unusable buggy that the first weeks will be unplayable anyway. Give people the choice of PvP, it just doesn't work in this game because it is solely based on wallet size.

[mild cipher]

War room PvP without proper lvl based, when are they going to do something good with simple common sense

[boreal flame]

Pls before releasing new content and getting new things into the game first fix the old issues. If you want players to do more pvp , get pvp brackets fixed first

[violet nymph]

More PvP.... we are promised quality over quantity and a huge part of the player base despises the one big PvP event (incursions) and what to we get: More PvP. I will have a look at it first and give it a chance, but already now I have to admit, that I hate it.

[vivid quarry]

PvP would be ok if they set better ops range limits to the game instead of having players 30 levels higher just bullying smaller players

[errant saddle]

Where are the text release notes? I don’t want video

[charred ravine]

Patch notes 404 😂
The link is in the announcement but they haven't been "posted" yet in the blog.

[nova sierra]

Like they don’t even test links before they push out announcements. Honestly this company isn’t just fail at development they also don’t check communications. 🙃

[quiet steppe]

A new building based on PVP. Let me guess, Scopely have done nothing to fix the massive imbalance in the PVP level banding. Yet another feature that will benefit nobody but the big spenders. Exactly why I don't bother with PVP - it's not a fair fight when you're up against a ship 10x your power.

On the bright side, at least its another game feature I won't have to worry about upgrading /progressing.

[red cliff]

this new pvp focus and the continually ridiculous power creep that spenders get in pvp (thanks new prime that eliminates hull breach for f2p) with no way for people to catch up is just...pathetic. @tidal notch this is yet another pointless update that just makes the game worse rather than better

[midnight coral]

Great. There is literally no Chance for f2p or lowspend players to participate in PVP. Those primes are insane stupid

[weak grove]

Indeed, what Kiri says. The new pvp primes are ridiculous. F2P guys are already disadvantaged to spenders, but those just kill the f2p pvp off for good.

[tropic crown]

But still will lose.

[upbeat imp]

There never was any chance in PvP. The game DOESN'T have worthwhile PvP. It's the equivalent of pistols at dawn, where one player has a hidden £99 kevlar jacket and the other player has a hidden £99 tactical nuke and a £99 optional tactical nuke protection shield. PvP would suggest an element of balance and skill. Join an alliance and soak up points. Not worth worrying about

[limber mesa]

cube warp range boost should've been for all grades, it's abysmally small for G3 and G4 players too.
(instant warp is nice for grind though, saves a lot of time)

no fix for broken field training, even though it supposedly was fixed in the last big update.

[ebon perch]

my 2 cents: The universe is taking a turn for the worse. PVP in this game is, up until now, resource driven, meaning shooting autofarmers in hostile space and missionrunners pretty uninteresting. Thats why we get things done.
Now, those acts will get rewards, and with PvP being 'I am bigger, you die!' it will make a very small fishbowl with a few sharks... err... whales in it.

[quick harness]

why do you try to force pvp again?
just accept that a lot of players just aren't interested!
there's absolutely nothing I'm looking forward to in this arc - and bek selling us all the crap with a nonstop smile on her face doesn't help a bit

[raw citrus]

i read the post for the new building... the first april is gone!

[scenic aspen]

P2W rubbish like this is why most players don't participate in the PvP aspects of the game.

[obtuse jungle]

Nice update scopely. When do you begin with that quality thing you promised this year? 4th month, 4zh new grind and again new officers. Let the cash flow right? Not anymore. This is getting worse and worse.

[scenic aspen]

From reading the patch notes this seems like the most skippable new content since starbase assaults.
Why try to force PvP when most players already ignore and hate the PvP parts of the game.
It's already near impossible to get players to participate in incursions and you bring in new prime researches that further screw up the PvP balance.
I understand you want to make money but it is possible to introduce new content to sell that doesn't drive players away from participating is some aspects of the game.

[midnight coral]

and btw. what in heck are those Patch Notes? Get your design fixed! You have to mark everything to be able to read it wtf

[thick owl]

Make players pay to change their names, instant cash grab.

[humble furnace]

Some games actually do this, first name change is free. 2nd you have to pay 💰

[thick owl]

Right, Scopely loves money, its a great way to get it and would put focus back to the game instead of tracking players.

[delicate sandal]

Implementing a constantly forced pvp, which means excuse to raid miners with overcargo or ships of weaker players to score for a dull new ally event and building spoils my game experience so much that this will be the end of STFC gaming for me.... and I know this holds true for quite a lot of my alliance mates.

Implement arenas and event with pvp systems...that is ok, but for me and many others STFC is a build, grind and develop pve game. PVP is massively unbalanced towards the big guns and big spenders. No fun to play such a game !

[sacred crane]

Honest question: outside of token systems, why do you go OPC?

[glacial flint]

Wait people do that outside token🤯 they learned fast on my server🤣

[gusty fractal]

because someone thinks blue triangles are NPC.

[glacial flint]

Hate mining🤷‍♂️ opc is opc love it when they do it for me and Rev says its ok🤣

[nova sierra]

This Arc is loaded with new features and content it would seem. Can’t wait to see what’s broken this time around.

[rose tartan]

Our will to play. 🤣

[humble wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/farmer-farming-farm-burgerplanet-burger-gif-378448754723554758

[outer vapor]

Why force players into PvP!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD BAD move

[marsh tide]

Firing up the moped for more games of chicken with trains (yeah pvp) how about a quality improvement arc rather than focusing new things on a severely unbalanced system again I get hit by players that have well over 100 mill power in one ship when my overall power is only 20 mill but yeah always fun when your the windshield and not the bug unfortunately a lot more bugs than windshields, but makes perfect since?

[native shoal]

Because PvP triggers the individual Ego, that will make them buy more packs …..and Btw. It has always been a PvP game.

[warm gulch]

ah dont think so... those players who dont want to play pvp may be they cant because ships that players will quit... most players arnt powerplayer... may be the end of some servers...

[humble wharf]

It's a wargame. That you want it to be a space mining and basebuilding game is your personal problem.

[fluid mist]

y'all talking about the pvp which is a good thing but no one even mentioning new voyager ability to be able to scan how long your peace shield has until expires meaning ya better never let it expire again

[marsh tide]

What fun is pvp when at lower levels it’s no way fair at 20 mill power with everything I have a player with single ships well over 100 mill is in my bracket that’s not pvp that’s feeding whales. Used to like pvp but it’s so unbalanced now that I dread it now

[warm gulch]

iam 46 and i can attacked by lv60... means 50m vs 2b ship... this range isnt the best...

[violet nymph]

So it's 2 clicks for a free claim now ... Yes, that quality of life improvement we were promised really was a lie.

[hollow plover]

G3 nodes in avansa alpha has been turned into G4 nodes 🤔

[green juniper]

It would be urgent to reduce the ship differentials in PvP... the current range is indeed completely unbalanced...

[marsh tide]

Doubt they will adjust the pvp brackets the intent seems to be to give whales a reason to just go crazy, real question is how will this affect servers ROE

[native thistle]

Thanks for turning the faction messages from one click to a two click procedure, very appreciated.

[clear edge]

So, what‘s the improvement here? Two more clicks per item in the faction stores now 😱 what a waste of time!

[violet dock]

C'mon. Red data reclaim, green data reclaim. Two separate things and you know it.

[rose tartan]

Yeah, this one feels like a deliberate middle finger to players and an absolutely petty attempt to keep you in game that tiny little bit longer.

[keen bluff]

Nice artwork on the opening screen

[harsh quiver]

THey doubled all the clicks now for your EVERYTHING in the faction store, How much you want to bet they are going to have some pay function to pull all your free claims.

[keen pumice]

They aren't referring to the red & green but the fact that it used to list the cost & you clicked once to claim. Now you have to view it first and then click claim. Two clicks when one was fine before.

[cold sphinx]

Not QOL;-
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[unreal sierra]

yeah F my life on that one guys

[cosmic geyser]

Dislike what was done to faction store. More clicks… we don’t need that unless its part of a bigger plan to claim all…

[fallen tree]

I used to be able to see at a glance what these cost and how far off I was - now I can't. This is the exact oppsite of a QOL improvement.
DO scopely employees get paid by the click?

[violet dock]

Some of that's been gone a while though. The faction stores haven't consistently shown costs everywhere.

[spark flume]

This has to be the worst change in game history Seriously with 4 new gameplay loops this year, no significant way to speed up old loops, you add 30 seconds to every single redeem you have to do in the faction store, and make it almost impossible to see how much things cost without having to click on another menu every single time

[gaunt citrus]

how you get the missions to build the warroom?

[umbral pumice]

Oh wow, you made something hideous even worse. The daily claim / refine / exchange was very annoying as its slow and numb clicking, bow you doubled that. Thats just …

[waxen tinsel]

Hiding all the daily claims in the faction stores behind more button clicks is ridiculous… unnecessary change that is a quality of life reduction.

[woeful nymph]

Hahah….what the heck. That is dumb

[fallen tree]

Yes it's every menu - this is possibly the worst change ever

[dense prawn]

Releases at daily reset I guess

[unreal sierra]

will you becoming out with "PRIME REDEEM"???? $100 for 1 click instead of 2?

[dense prawn]

New Red pip, can't redeem without premium artifact so it NEVER goes away 🤦‍♂️

[exotic bison]

Who's stupid idea was to remove the needed amount of credits from here? No we need to click them open one by one to see what type of credits we need and how much. Instead of this kind of useless updates spend some time on real bugs and not on pips and useless stuff

[marsh tide]

Really beginning to wonder how many times I’m going to have to click the delete account button

[jaunty pelican]

Literally zero people want this change. And if there is someone who does, I'm assuming they're a glutton for punishment. Seriously?

[fringe stirrup]

Makes you wonder if they even:

1. Play their own game
2. They have a UX designer in their team. Less clicks => better UX always

[keen pumice]

I will give Scopely one thing... replacing some of the 3* territory rss systems will 4* and replacing the trit/dil territory systems with 3* is a good my imo.

[sharp hazel]

Heads up all, dont waste your money on this buggy rubbish, scopely have been removing bookmarks, bases shields and who knows what else!

[lucid rock]

Whoever decided the faction store should be changed so we cannot see the cost of each item without clicking into each and every item in the store should not be allowed to make decisions ever again. This needs to be reversed. It's a serious quality of life reducer.

[steel escarp]

No one wants more clicks; why would you do this? This literally makes the game harder to play. Please roll this back ASAP.

[swift steppe]

What The!! Otima Alpha still labeled as ore but has changed to parsteel!!

[rough belfry]

Why the F is this now 2 clicks instead of 1?

[fringe stirrup]

Next "improvement" will be adding a confirmation pop-up for every claim

[molten dew]

We needed a preset for all the million chests we need to claim and buy every day, not make the 15minute chore take even more clicks!

[bronze axle]

It makes perfect sense to change the layout of the faction store claims to double the amount of clicks. We want fewer clicks and ability to claim all, Scopley delivers twice the clicks. This is not streamlining anything.

[fallen tree]

changing the icons before you've actually changed the contents is not great though lol

[low venture]

need to empty/reset the nodes yourself

[elfin root]

Scopely proving once again that no one over there actually plays the game

[keen pumice]

You have to mine them to convert them... same as when they increased the size of the iso nodes... that gas in my picture didn't magically appear, I mined it I to existence.

[humble furnace]

They done this on all factions 🤔 this backwards QoL … they actually made daily claims x2 as long to claim doing this

[steep socket]

So far had nothing but good things to say at scopely this morning... then i go to collect my factions stuff. and instead of single clicks.. now you gotta click then click again…. Ughhh not 2 steps back but annoying when so much good this morning

[jagged lark]

@tidal notch adding even more clicks to the game, in the spirit of consistency, was a bad move. Claiming things in the faction store takes twice the number of clicks because I have to open a View and then buy.

[inland shoal]

Seems like whatever QOL we had was taken away while I was sleeping

[young cliff]

Button press simulator is one of the biggest complaints I have (and hear from others), and we just doubled down on the problem. Why?

[steep socket]

Good consistency would be an option for a claim all that you can select which things you want to collect daily.. so you are in and out

I spend more time collecting stuff every morning than actually playing the game

[kind star]

Scopeless, is there really nothing you're good at? Nothing at all? The pathetic and embarrassing quality you deliver in 2024 is truly unparalleled! Your developers all seem to be incompetent. Just like your digital content managers.

[inland shoal]

Booo!!!! Hisss!!!

[native thistle]

Wouldn't be surprised if they reverse that decision during the next update and claim it as QoL improvement because they have halved the click time. Scopely Checkmark on QoL for 2024

[molten dew]

The only hope is that this view button is a first step into making a preset for daily claims and purchases, but they just haven't gotten that far yet. Maybe? Or am I just naive? 😄

[pastel herald]

adding tons of extra clicks to this game and removed the at a glance with VIEW on everything now? I am done, serious... this has gone to crap

[gaunt citrus]

perhaps they want you to invest more time to play the game instead of going to fitness center XD

[kind star]

I don't want to judge whether you are naive..😂 but what I do know is: scopely is unsurpassed in terms of incompetence. They will 100% just have messed it up - as always.

[pastel herald]

adding the VIEW to hide the amount is the equivalent of some guy looking to add work to job just to add work and not make the game better.

[rare vale]

Here's how I feel about all of the new primes

[pastel herald]

https://tenor.com/view/kersemus-laptop-gooien-pc-smash-gif-19327201

[tropic crown]

@tidal notch so with war room any changes to the PVP brackets or will I still be murdered by people I have zero chance again who are 20 plus ops higher than me?

[opaque thunder]

I like things costing credits behind the view button. The only reason I have any hijacked BP is because of a mis-click while trying to scroll. But not being able to see which favours I can afford now or how much they are is frustrating. And for things that just cost red/green data, I never cared. I'm not sure what the solution is to fix both problems.

[rough belfry]

<@&509690795536941056> Nurse Chapel is awesome. I need 2 copies of her though as I need to use both of her abilities at once. Why couldn't Scopey separate those abilities between 2 officers? The other 2 officers are mediocre at best for the new hostiles.

[sacred crane]

I like the consistency they added with the "view" button on everything. But with QoL in mind, I wish they added an "alternate" view (much like with the artifact gallery, that shows what they do) that both changes the "View" button to "Claim" and shows the cost. I guess that from a technical point of view the consistency is a necessary first step towards this kind of changes...

[pastel herald]

it is one thing to make a extra click to BUY a item, it is another to hide the amount and availability , they could have still left it the way it was and and had the button act as a view

[native thistle]

Can't even look into the U/R/E chests to check how many credits I have left. Need to look everything up in that well organised inventory. It's getting better and better.

[rough belfry]

<@&509690795536941056> is there a quality check position available at scopely? If so I would like to apply. It's sorely needed. Along with designers who actually play the game they are designing.

[outer jolt]

Changing all the Faction Store Items to View then Purchase for all items is the Worst Change that could ever be made. this should be REVIRESED ASAP

[native thistle]

#MakeDracoQualityChecker

[dusty portal]

Doubled the clicks of the faction stores. Who thought this was an improvement?

[rare vale]

Can we fire whoever it was who added all the extra clicks to the faction store? Thanks for "fixing" what wasn't broken.

[rough belfry]

Whoever thought it was more uniform and pretty. Which it is, but it's also very stupid and time consuming for no reason.

[kind star]

After this botched update, some players have had enough and will stop playing the game. Well done scopeless. This month your revenue will drop. I wish it for you! You should be paying us players by now.

[tropic crown]

Well the game is turning into a full time job so makes sense.

[rare vale]

Also just noticed the ultra recruit claim is missing. I have a bunch of ultra tokens on hand too.

[rough belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bartlett-west-wing-head-desk-gif-6012433

[nova sierra]

They probably took it offline to add the new officers. Chill out and save the spend for the recruit SLB this afternoon.

[rose tartan]

It should have been done before the maintenance ended. That's what responsible businesses do. But then again, we are talking about Scopely.

[barren hazel]

They have five (2) openings.

[versed kraken]

Change the refinery and faction stores back please. Clicks were doubled to claim things for no apparent reason

[swift sphinx]

And a really underwhelming set of additions to ultra recruit chests while diluting the pool and chance for meaningful shards even further.

Anyone who has been playing since mantis easily has snw Spock ortegas and uhura maxed already. Adding officers to ultra recruit chests AFTER they’ve been in transporter patterns for months is backwards.

[red cliff]

This update is just awful. PvP focus in an utterly unbalanced PvAFK game? Awful inventory changes? No improvements to all the grinds and bad xindi loops people have been complaining about for months!

[glass monolith]

@tidal notch

Why are we having to actually go into "view" to collect all this faction store stuff instead of being able to just buy or claim from main screen like before? This is extremely annoying

[ebon slate]

Thanks for posting this. I didn't realise but one of our trit zones is now 3* crystal 🥳

[finite mural]

All 3* are 4* now. and all rss is 3* now

[stray hill]

Who invented this 🤨. Why are you giving away useful things?

[slate badger]

Can we get this back on just claim or buy insted of getting more clicks and go to view, claim and 1 min lost bc of loading another screen?

[fallen tree]

It should be view when I can't afford it and Claim with the cost to do so when I can - simples

[glass monolith]

If you guys add a new loop, 1 old loop should be added to the autocompleted ones for exborg. Stop piling more and not taking any away

[rich elm]

Can't wait to see what pile of crap these gorn hunters are, i never bothered with the last month's reds that were close to unkillable

[sacred garden]

So I did the update I can see the new building and a new thing in gallery and in holodeck but yet can’t claim the gallery bit no new missions yet for accessing the new building

[acoustic cloud]

Oh sweet! More clicks and More lag! Fix the faction stores

There's too many clicks overall, let us automate or reduce the clicks

[finite mural]

Read the text, you need the new FT to use the refinery

[junior horizon]

fix/change back the faction store clicking .. double clicking is a wrong move!

[lunar wren]

The double clicking in the faction stores should revert back to their original state. The single clicks is much better and preferred

[solemn forum]

So, turns out the loot chests limit is much lower than I thought. While autogrinding hostiles while offline I came back to 999 hostile chests and having lsot dozens of players chests to having 1 left, and my ships were all still going. Would be nice to not lose those player chests or others earned. I also didn't purchase any exocomps during Infinite Incursions, and while I was offline I was automatically given this one despite Infinite Incursions being over. And why am I getting notified of a draw for these isolytic artifact tokens but can't draw any?

[wet meteor]

AFAIK, that screen has always had the "View" option as there's multiple options in terms of buying them EDIT Ahh I see, the stuff that only has one option to buy now has a view button too

[near rampart]

Players at level 35-39 will no longer be able to mine 3* material??

[finite mural]

rss nodes became 3*, 3* became 4* - alliances will have to rethink their territory some

[livid pasture]

Who thought this was a good idea???? WE DON’T NEED MORE CLICKS!!!

[cyan arch]

@tidal notch ISO refinery the best I have ever seen. hassle free / quick gringding and good stuff in refinery.

[rotund rapids]

...so no more ultra recruits?

[rich elm]

Just another well tested update ... Hang on, they will be back

[fast ravine]

Anyone having issues with the mobile app after the update? Mine sits on the black "preparing" screen, and never loads the game.

[still peak]

Creating extra clicks and obscuring the cost of each item. I thought we were supposed to focus on quality improvements this year? This is so frustrating

[modern compass]

<@&509690795536941056> I'm not the type who complains about stuff - believe me, I work in software development & am well aware of how silly most of these game communities can get with their complaints.

One UX principle that was broken in this update is to never increase the number of clicks/taps necessary to accomplish common tasks. The Faction Store UI update broke this rule on about half of the daily claims I make. I'd appreciate it very much if this could be reverted in the near future.

1. Don't make me "view" and then "claim" packs that only have one option.
2. Please give me back the ability to view packs on cooldown, so I can see how much loot is required quickly & easily. And if you could add this feature to all packs, that'd be awesome.

[humble furnace]

That research exo is from your server winning Incursions. It’s automatically applied and last for 7 days

[rich elm]

Note: Following player feedback, we are adding officers to the Ultra Recruit this month
^^ however we are removing Ultra Recruit options also this months 😄

[wet meteor]

One change in the Faction Store I do like is that the missions now show you exactly what they open once you click "View"

[solemn forum]

Alright.

[sacred garden]

How you get this new missions chain for this new building, this whole new bit seems poorly executed

[rugged scaffold]

Really? Instead of making some shortcuts to they daily "click-orgy" to claim everything, you decided, to add even more clicks? A "view" button, instead the usual "direct buy" button... Guess your developers never played the game on a regulare base?

Are at least the small-number-thingies fixed, so I dont have to click every button like this, to know, If I can buy what's behind it?

[livid pasture]

Who requested those officers though??? Dilution from officers in TPs and easily max able snw rares…

[tacit jay]

Why is everything hidden behind a “VIEW” button now? Terrible UX change.

[swift sphinx]

And adding easily sourced officers and officers that have been in transporter patterns for a long time now, so really, we are just diluting an already bloated pool of officers in one chest.

[rich elm]

dust in the eye, they can say "we added new officers, so players can't complain" ... but all the officers they added are now irrelevant to the majority of players

[brazen oracle]

The change to the faction store view button reeks of developers with no UI/UX experience. I've done development long enough to recognize when junior developers get so caught up in what they're doing that they forget to take a minute to actually use the app as the user. "put yourself in the users shoes" is one of the most common pieces of feedback I give to junior devs. Since scopely seems to be a team of junior devs, it looks like they need that advice. Fix the faction store

[rugged scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-pokeball-gif-21700553 - gotta catch em all

[swift sphinx]

15minutes to do all your refines and exchanges together was too short a time. They want you glued to the game so you aren’t doing anything else

[jaunty turtle]

Bring back the Currency view of the chests in the Faction Stores. I dont want to click each chest to view it's cost

[steel escarp]

Also please put back the color coded triangles under the armadas to show what type they are (ie. Uncommon, Rare, Epic). Why would you remove that?

[glass monolith]

What's up with all the ghost ships everywhere? There's even one on my galaxy map

[wet meteor]

@south meteor Although I note they've now put the mission name right on the button now too

[swift sphinx]

Because Scopely Kwality Kontrol

[south meteor]

I see, but a pretty high price to pay (VIEW on ALL items) to be able to read mission - that you can see much better anyway at stfc.space)

[wild fossil]

The mission name on the button is not the name of the mission that one your showing for example "outlaws 2.1" does not exist, "What you sow" does. Why they added a new name makes nonsense

[wet meteor]

Correction: they did show on the button before. They now show both the name they use elsewhere for the mission set and the name of the mission

[solid geyser]

Is anyone else having problems launching the game on PC?
It loads okay for my phone and tablet.

[craggy egret]

Yay, giving g5 and g6 players more griefing power! It’s not like there’s anybody else that pays the game.🤦‍♂️

[remote lynx]

Adding EXTRA steps to purchase something that doesn't have multiple chest options is just a giant Middle Finger to the entire playerbase.

[sacred garden]

#eddyman592 junior dev’s more like amateur dev’s reminds me of my computer programming days in high school

[dusty portal]

Dilution of the ultra recruit with officers that you can get from the mantis refinery or from transporter patterns is a questionable decision. I’m just going to end up with more patterns instead of the officers that I’m still hunting shards for, which cannot be obtained with patterns.

[remote lynx]

my ultra recruit option is straight up missing since the update...

[muted elk]

[sacred garden]

One of the worst aspects of doing these updates to get new features that you can’t do nothing with tell reset which for me doesn’t happen tell half the day is already over. Update so you can’t do anything but the regular crap sucks I hate having to wait to do new stuff after updating. This oh we added new things but you can’t do it tell half the day is over sucks

[keen bluff]

I think the ghost ships bug has returned

[merry tiger]

Ghost ships everywhere 👻🤣

[manic tendon]

The ghost ships bug is really, really bad with this update

[brittle reef]

Please, remove the notification if we can't unlock this! And don't apply it again till we can! Is it really so hard to not annoy your players?

[cosmic basin]

I stopped playing the game probably wont play again until they remove the annoyiny vidoes that we are forced to click on

[remote flume]

SOMEBODY PIN THIS BS 📌📌📌

[livid pasture]

Supposedly it was an “accident” that will get fixed. At least that’s what I think CCs just said…

[last nest]

trusting cc’s

[steep socket]

I think the big miss in this arc was not including additional levels in the battle simulator.. i need something to do while waiting for warp :p

[sacred garden]

New building requires missions yet can’t find the missions anywhere to even do that sucks, just like updating the game and having to wait half the day before you can do anything related to the new crap nice brilliant thinking

[coral lark]

Scopely. You already know that the event will not be a nice war but just miner bashing?

[remote flume]

Yeah right lol -- they just want more "engagement" to show their investors/bosses/whoever... if we're spending twice as much time pressing twice as many buttons, it looks like "engagement." Too bad they didn't factor in everyone getting sick of it and quitting.

[last nest]

only combat ships count so not really

so people will just be hitting their friends relatas for hours. to win the events

“Skill TACTICS and money !”

[dusty portal]

Didn’t they say something about opl hits? So hitting opl mining ships won’t count? Should be “interesting” when you’re grinding reds with warships.

[sacred garden]

Wow love the new ultra recruit additions, not!! Epic failure since there is now no ultra recruitment in the recruitment stupid broken game features as usual from amateurs who don’t even double check , triple check and quadruple check their work before fully releasing it

[remote flume]

SO MUCH QUALITY

[river knoll]

Here’s feedback….let’s not create an event that forces pvp on players who don’t love it. A large amount of your player base isn’t aren’t major pvp players and I have a feeling many will leave the game

[native sapphire]

I'm so irate that they've added even more clicking to the game rather than simplifying things. Streamline people! It already takes like 15-20 mins a day just to do collections and refinery/factions turn ins. They went through and changed all the 1 click faction turn-ins where you could easily see the cost and just click it to turn in to now you have to Click "View" to see the same button with the cost(and see if you even have the credits to do an upgrade), click it to turn in, then OK after the animation screen to get back to the faction page. I get that it's more uniform, but it's just more time wasted watching animated turn in screen 30 more times a day. They need to go through and change all the turn in and collections options that only have 1 option to a one click collect or turn in option with a quick fly away that goes away on its own. Quit with the animation screens and having to click 3 times on every turn in and collection. 😠 Make it like the Alliance Help button. You click it, you get a quick popup on what you received/did, and it goes away. No waiting for a full screen animation to load to tell you what you received and having to click OK to go back to where you were.

[grizzled latch]

We can no longer see the cost of items in the faction stores, making it much more difficult to plan for exBorg/Bajoran favors. This is a terrible user experience regression.

[river knoll]

The ALB event is bullcrap. The other ones I can live with. Hitting warships but goodbye mining for everyone during this event. Do you guys even think before throwing an entire mechanic out the window?

[sacred garden]

Where the promo code?

[nova sierra]

OOOOhh look I must be getting crystal and trit? oh how stupid of me

[river knoll]

S61 literally has a whale sitting in the freebooter systems killing anyone that enters to prevent us from doing the daily event. All this does is encourage bullying. ESPECIALLY when you have it so 60+ players with 1 billion ships can take out people with barely 190million power shipsp

[sacred garden]

Wow a minute ago there was two news feeds now only the one . Was trying to find the promo code for this arc

[desert sigil]

Nice quality of life reduction by removing the ability to watch the loot without having the chest ready... Quantity over quality yet again, perfect.. AND THAT'S ON EVERYTHING?!!?!?!?! Defiant, Ex-borg pulls, Bajoran store.. EVERYTHING

[fallen wasp]

And just like that, Scopely has negated months of effort creating a competitive and completely pve only alliance.

[kind minnow]

https://i.imgur.com/BxyxzzP.jpeg ghost ships surrounding my station ;x

[granite glade]

Scopely, ypu'd better even out restrictions on pvp or you're going to lose A LOT of players. PVP isn't fun when a Billion power ship can hit 25mil power ships. Players in their 40s can't compete with players in their 60s.

[nova sierra]

nah thats just a new feature so you don't get lonely it was just missing the patch notes

[sacred garden]

Where is the prime code for this arc

[silver laurel]

Bare minimum is to make it so that if a high level player can hit a specific level that level has to be able to hit them back. But I also agree the pvp ranges are too wide.

[granite glade]

Yeah. Even a 53 can man-handle a 49. The gap between Northcutt and everything lower is too great for pvp. Same with Ent-D to Northcutt.

[gaunt prism]

Seriously? A blanket PVP event? You obviously didn’t learn the lesson from a few years ago.

[quaint haven]

Buy things for SLB points just screams quality

[spare vapor]

So some feedback for officer sourcing in month for ARC's, it seems like shard acquisitions are progressively getting worse without some kind of paywall. Maybe it's just me, but I feel as though at least one of the officers should be F2P in-month, obviously with options to purchase or upgrades, but seems like officer acquisition is just getting worse

[solemn forum]

I already restarted the session once with seems to have fixed the hostiles fluttering between red and smaller green sprites, but I keep seeing other players send in ships with smaller green sprites that have no markers, and now ships are appearing in the glaxy map, too.

[hollow plover]

i think i dont like the warroom

[silver laurel]

I'm saying ability to hit. Like a 63 can hit a 40. A 40 can only hit up to 61. Not just ability to compete. The game literally uses different punch up and punch down limit so they don't align.

[wind shell]

@tidal notch, the PvP bands now really need to be fixed. Or how about players gain dishonor when hitting 10 or more ops levels below their level? Dishonor gets bad enough and new unbeatable hostiles start chasing..?

[kind rampart]

Thanks Scopley!!! That’s how grind reduction works😍😍😍

[kindred sphinx]

This has been in the game for over a year. Since then, they have tripled down on the grind.

[last nest]

[sacred garden]

Ain’t there supposed to be a promo code for this arc?

[fallen wasp]

My pve alliance (and the game) just lost another player. Completely upending diplomacy and RoE's by doing this (likely just to sell primes) completely kicked a certain player base in the teeth. I'm sure in the next couple of hours I'll be up to double digits lost.

[exotic bison]

Ghost ships pop up in every system, what a nice update AGAIN

[icy patio]

you know it's bad when mowing the yard is looking good

[lilac wigeon]

Well now I can’t do either missions or events or anything, getting killed instantly by players 10 levels above me. You just ruined this game for me Scopely, thank you very much.

[brittle reef]

Why did you remove the numbers from the buttons? What is wrong with you? Is your aim purely to make the game less user friendly?

[blissful bluff]

put your pvp somewhere. I'll do the missions that can only be done with miners and then I'll go to sleep. I will not make myself a target anywhere and anytime. Every other one kills me like nothing. I won't do xindi, silent, borg, 8472, actian, gorns with any of my miner. How should I do an event if I get killed as soon as I enter the system?

[proper knot]

I'm protesting this stupid event. I'm not playing this whole month. Suck it money grubbers.

[devout quiver]

please add a "message all alliance members in PM button" so i can mass explane this months BS without it being buried in alliance chat pls

[icy patio]

my time to play star citizen 3.23 when it comes out just went up dramatically

[cedar sky]

No miner exception here -> shield and wait for next month

[opaque raft]

Seriously scopley?
19 new events all at the same time?
So how is this more quality than quantity???

Game again crashing very often. Again: no quality

[nova sierra]

this Event is called Mass Exodus or corporate suicide by scrooge play

[junior sierra]

these ghost ships are just awful

[kind rampart]

Been there for a year but it’s wasn’t really worth it. Now with the increase it’s really worth it. Now it’s 10x

[icy patio]

Since my servers 'version' of PvP is 60's killing 40's the moment we enter a system or touch a mission banner, how am I supposed to get any enjoyment out of this. I'm seriously looking at my front yard wondering if I'll get more out mowing that over playing this further... I'm not a whale but my 150-200$+ monthly just brick walled and I may actually get stuff done around the house. Congrats Scopely, helping me beat an addiction.

[wise vale]

You guys gonna fix the ghost player ships in every flerkin system?

#BotchedSoftware

[empty ridge]

A 4day PvP event at the start of a new ARC just sucks!!! This allows bullies of the game to be even more intolerable!!!
I understand Scopley wants to cater to everyoGVne and that's fine. Put PvP in certain areas (like the past) and go slam/hit whomever you want. If this is the new way...then I'm out and will quit!!!

[manic python]

the only reason players build ships with more then 500mio strengh is to hit smaller players with ships 50mio strengh 🤣. otherwise they could loose a battle

[rose tartan]

They don't want to cater to everyone. They just want to cater to krakens and massive whales. Even dolphins are plainly ignored.

[hoary lynx]

Step 1: Add tons of grind loops
Step 2: Add a PvP mechanic that makes it so no one can do grinds
Step 3: Players quit the game

[icy patio]

Step 4: Profit?

[wet meteor]

So, a 4 day PvP everywhere event.... so dead servers in ... 2 days? End of today? Sure going to lose a chunk of the middle spend and most if not all the FTP. I know I've spent a fair amount, the patch hasn't even been out 2 hours and I'm already considering quitting

[empty ridge]

Same here (108)

[icy patio]

I just closed all the helper tabs in my browser that i've kept open for months to help play (wave map, grind routes, etc) and closed the game, check back in soon, maybe

[jaunty fog]

Is there a new class of huge ships?

[opaque raft]

Why arent the new mexhancs introduced all at once with a massive amount of events to go with it, including several pvp ones?
How does scopely thinks all players will get what is going on?
We dont all have time to read the halfwit intro texts, and even if we would, it still is a massive puzzle to comprehend what we are supposed to do.
This arc intro clearly isnt well thought over.
Its a very lazy way to drop such an amount of new content all at once.
I say: this arc starts even worse than tue previous arc.
Apparently scopely is pushing players to stop playing the game at all

[hard aurora]

I wish I could understand why more hasn't been written on game sites about how absolutely broken this game is and how hostile Scopely is to anyone who doesn't spend hundreds or thousands on it every month.

[violet nymph]

The game is now completely unplayable. For one the bugs and performance are abysmal and secondly, anytime a Ship is out grinding for the Events some whale comes around killing it for the PvP points. Well done Scopely, abysmally badly done. This is even worse than the last months which I didn't believe was possible.

[jaunty fog]

WOAH there....ALL of that implies that jokely thinks in the first place about anything other than money. They really have proven time and time again they don't give a 💩 about the players.

[calm copper]

Almost unplayable at the moment
whenver you leave a busy system you end up with lots of ghost ship in the system you are going to

[livid gate]

Seriously what is this? And don't say it's a QOL improvement. Now we have to click more buttons and wait through more load screens just to see how much we need for favors when before we could just see the cost!

[tame sphinx]

That was the 5th "big gun in round 1" in a row for the Xindi Aquatics. Fire whoever came up with your RNG - he hasn't the faintest clue what he is doing.

[vague trellis]

JGAL in webshop gives you five SNW M Benga shards

[celest iron]

Very unhappy with the changes in faction store. Won't use it this way anymore

[pine fiber]

Q made his appearance.....

[fair jolt]

HOW COULD YOU EFF THIS UP, Scopley??? Did nobody bother to think that a mere 90% prefer to play peaceful? Did no one at Scopley learn that good PvP is not "the purge"? 60s killing 40s, often emty miners, everywhere is not game-design...it is a lazy moneygrap that will lead to mass exodus of annoyed players....

Make PvP great again...by rewarding strategic and fair pvp in certain areas. Sanction empty miner kills, cause that is not the way of the warrior! Opc okay, but stop the "purge"

[waxen kite]

a PvP LB in which the ones that have no life can spam their realta for 24 hours, nice one

[lunar wigeon]

Developers: "You know what would be really fun to watch..."

[cosmic knoll]

Theres only 2 ways to revive PvP in STFC and neither way is what scopely will do ever.

Brackets

Hit Down Tax (opposite of the dumbo beam tax)

So yea, pvp wont be a thing in this game ever, just a side note that only crops up when they force players to participate in it to complete arc events

[cursive gale]

With the new Voyager Refit granting the ability to see shield time left. How about giving all Commorodores and Admirals the ability to see SHield Time left and a locate to base ability for all members in their own alliance at no cost to the alliance or players. This way we can try to check on and interupt raid attempts, which means more chances for PvP occuring

[grim helm]

Ghost ships everywhere, 2 dozen restarts, cleared localization several times... yet another broken bit of code...

[valid kindle]

This has been in the game for over a year. Since then, they have tripled down on the grind.
@kindred sphinx

[subtle sinew]

I agree! 3x as many windows and buttons to click to claim. It makes me seriously question if anyone at scopely actually plays the game vs. just sitting around a table and coming up with half-brained ideas to make game play more miserable.

[quick notch]

Going to hate this arc. I hate PvP in this game and now I’m forced into it

[green lark]

You have added an additional click for the faction allegiance and faction message turn ins. Please revert as this is unnecessary and annoying feature and from QoL PoV the old single click for each was better.

[atomic harbor]

So no one can go anywhere really at all to finish an event. Just to mine a need resource. Or pretty much anything without getting hit by someone much bigger than you. If you wanted to figure out a way for people NOT to spend money and maybe even leave the game, you certainly have found it. @tacit obsidian @tidal notch @ anyone in scopely that will actually read feed back and listen @rigid vapor

[last nest]

sorry they wont be looking here only at the revenue chart in the conference room

[hollow narwhal]

Just so that @everyone is clear... After SEVERAL events like this Forced PvP event across ALL systems - which players have been telling Scopely NOT TO DO! They just go and do it again. It's clear to me that they want to kill this game - because they cannot grasp the basic concept of: Whales need something to feed on... Force PvP on everyone and the krill quit the game... `With nothing to feed on, the Whales quit.. End of the game...

[final plinth]

If you want PvP introduce arena style systems, limit scoring to these systems and introduce meaningful PvP mechanics like TDM, DM etc in a Wave Defence style system setting

[crimson stream]

I can't handle all this QUALITY!!!!!!

[lost orbit]

Question... Can I beat the wave with such a team of friends?@tacit obsidian

[icy patio]

O_O

[graceful cedar]

Exactly, these new glitches need to be addressed ... too many ghosts in every system. We all knew it would happen, too bad Scopely didn't have a clue.

[stone girder]

Way to drive players from the game. 🍺

[opaque raft]

#⭐-official-announcements message

Scopely ‘forgot’ to test the update themselves, as they always do

[tidal notch]

Been passing on this exact feedback.

[fossil bolt]

It feels like the last time I spent money on this game. Ops64, I have spent plenty 🐋🐳🐋but this is the most ridiculous arc and forced pvp play I have seen in my years in game. I will move my spending to a real PVP game. Well done @tacit obsidian

[subtle lichen]

You can already find your players’ stations… little purple people in galaxy mode. Seeing remaining shields would be amazing!

[steep socket]

With all due respect.. we would like to thank you for turning our server into a ghost town for 4 days. Can barely find anyone to hit in pvp since everyone has bubbled up

[harsh thunder]

Is there a 7 day pvp event?

[graceful cedar]

Clearing localization for the 11th time since reset ..... 11 times in under 3 hours. Way to go Scopely. And seriously, enough with these videos ..... we already get them on discord, why clog up game resources? Epic fail in my opinion.

[white oak]

Thanks for completely ruining the game for me. I can't even do missions without getting shot anymore. Good by and thank you for the fish.

[sacred garden]

Love the claim of adding new officers to ultra recruit, every dang one in there I was already getting their

[cursive gale]

That requires manually hunting every system for a specific player. Be nice if we could go straight to a specific player more easily

[subtle lichen]

Some players want to mine only. Others want to mine and grind. A rare few don’t mine at all, grind and PvP only. Most of us mine and grind, PvP as needed… pushing us to PvP everywhere is just making everyone bubble. For those of us who still have a gentleman’s agreement in deep space, it’s encouraging higher level players to shoot fish in a barrel in 3* space.

[harsh thunder]

Crap. Garbage. Scopley is a bunch of $@%@^@!!!

[icy patio]

PVP isn't playable when a 60 can munch on a school of 40 for lunch, i get they're whales, but i'm not into being krill 24/7 and paying for the pleasure... 'k, thx, bye

[shrewd wasp]

Scope, this (this pvp arc) is really ridiculous, especially the 4 day ABL and the war room.
STFC is NOT a pvp game, even though you might think so. it's a farming/building game with unbalanced pvp elements. A large part has no interest in pvp, they just want to expand their base and fleet.

If this happens regularly, you will lose a lot of players...
But maybe you don't care. Less servers might not be a bad thing either

[sacred garden]

Ok this says to unlock it yet I can’t find where to unlock the dang thing

[last nest]

it will probably be in the store sooner or later or its FT unlock requirement

[jaunty fog]

@tidal notch More quality, less quanity....we have determined that to be a lie.

[weary tapir]

Maybe the Strategy is more simple than anyone can believe … pushing out the Players which are not paying enough and set the Rest Merge into one Server, so only Wales left, fighting again Same overloaded Opponents (so there are equal, not Wales anymore 😀)… i think By myself this would not Work 😀😀😀😀

[brazen patrol]

bring back the instant claims instead of us having to literally double our clicks. It takes too long

[sacred garden]

It’s extremely stupid to have red pings for things one can’t claim scopley. Double click I’m fine with it saves me from accidentally claiming stuff I’m not after when I scrolling through factions store

[jaunty pelican]

the slider bar for speed ups when tiering up a ship is not working for me.

[mental cloud]

that's what im saying, why did they need to make it twice as hard for no reason to claim stuff.

[brittle reef]

Don't we have already too much grinding to do?

[gentle goblet]

OPS 53, war-room level 5 ... I'll try not to spend it all in one palce 😄

[sand bear]

You're treasury is full.

[crimson stream]

QUALITY

[opaque raft]

With such lousy ‘rewards’, i’m wondering why @rigid vapor would think this is a ‘great’ game mechanic (more quantity) and why it would have anything to do with the promised more quality?

[sinful walrus]

If you are seeing ghost ships in your game, a restart should address that issue. This is a temporarily fix and a permanent one will be rolled out tomorrow.
A restart every few minutes as a temporary fix? 😂 "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" 😂

[subtle lichen]

Ok, so click a player, options to promote, demote, kick or find their station? And the dropdown gives choices for sorting by rank, online, power, shield time?

Honestly, I’m thinking that they’re just trying to cater to whales who want to drain. By letting them see when shields will fall and not letting us see… it’s easy to cater to them? 🤷‍♀️

[quick notch]

This is a tone deaf arc. No one asked for forced PVP

[vivid nebula]

2* rewards for war room when I’m lvl 29. Get a grip scamley

[crimson stream]

WRONG! The shareholders demanded more spending, and forced PVP gets those wallets open more than anything else. Think of the shareholders!

[spare vapor]

I love PVP, but this galaxywide persistent pvp is just 💩

Massive ships guarding waypoints for missions...
Can't complete daily loops

This doesn't make the game better...

[stray barn]

@rigid vapor This has to be the worst development you’ve made yet. You’ve ruined any ROE servers have developed. You’ve made it impossible to do daily grinds without getting slaughtered. You’ve ticked off every player that doesn’t do PvP, no matter what you say about being able to participate without attacking people because they just get attacked anyways. We have players quitting already - including some very seasoned, high OPS players - and many more are thinking it’s time for them to quit as well. Please roll back, get rid of the War Room and its event and NEVER bring it back again. And STOP adding new features for a few months and focus on quality!

[sinful walrus]

1. $copely doesn't like ROE as it reduces pvp
2. $copely believes pvp will drive spending
3. It's April. Surely you don't still believe what they said about focus on quality over quantity?

[quick notch]

I’m actually not spending. Not buying battlepass as long as PVP is focus for this arc

[cursive gale]

That's my thinking as well on both how to implement and why they made this change as well. To me the alliance having the ability to see means when we think someone may be being raided we can hunt and send our whales to fight the other whales.can't have your cake and eat it too, so just cause they know the shield ends and setup to raid, they may get spotted by the alliance and have resistance sooner than anticipated

[willow patrol]

I stopped playing years ago because there was no such thing as RoE and doing basic mining proved impossbile once some players got stronger than others. Game was no longer fun. I came back to the game about a year ago and found that it had improved SO MUCH. RoE made the game playable and allowed weaker players to actually make progress to get stronger. This change has sent us right back to the point where I last left the game. High level players camping mission points to kill everyone, Voyager and Monaveen loops now impossible to participate in beceause you get picked off shortly after entering the system. I can no longer do the things the game is asking me to do.

[merry tiger]

FYI Edinburgh Zoo has spare monkeys if you need help coding for next arc!! 😅

[last nest]

reminder scopely did their taxes so they have to push rage spending this month

[half tree]

Well I think it's the final straw. I'm giving it a week and then I'm off. I stopped any spending 3 months ago due to the incessant loops and grinds. This will make the decision to quit much easier

[vale orchid]

Who the hell thought it's even a decent idea to make us click even MORE!!!! to claim stuff from the faction stores??!?!!??!
You cannot possibly serious about this -.-
That's like the worst idea EVER (and you guys have set the bar for that REALLY REALLY high...)

[merry tiger]

Yup another nail in the coffin for many players!! Now it's just sheer greed!!

[woven flare]

URGH! No Scopley put it back!!! @royal solar

[vale wasp]

The view button change wasn't intended, and they're going to fix it.

[sinful walrus]

What do you mean "now"? 😂

[rough belfry]

The War Room actually helps reinforce ROE since it scores based on OPC hunting.

[merry tiger]

@sinful walrus indeed mate!!

[willow patrol]

It's not based on OPC hunting on our server. It's a free for all for PvP kills. Can bring any ship out except a miner to do anything. Can't do dailies, can't do Monaveen, can't do Voyager, there's probably more but I just have given up for the day

[grave quest]

this ghost ship thing is a real problem. i have to restart every two minutes if not more because of it! can’t do pvp if i’m trying to select a non-existent ship! Kill one hostile and 10 ghosts pop up

[woven flare]

thank you. least its been noticed by mods and will be fixed 🙂

[wise kelp]

Can we stop with the videos/news popping up and hiding the helps? It used to be something I could dismiss once there was a update to news/videos, but now it’s happening on every restart, sometimes multiple times per. It’s becoming spammy at this point

[nova sierra]

Hey Scopely. Congrats, you crashed your own game.

[kindred sphinx]

Haha!! Looks like you have hastened the demise of STFC. Free or low priced players that used to be the 'feeder fish' for whales and sharks are now going to be leaving in droves since the new arc heavily encourages PvP and those without mega ships will no longer be able to do anything without getting blasted. Without the feeder fish, the whales will soon lose interest also. Good luck on your next project because this just might end STFC.

[swift steppe]

Simple truth, if I wanted increasing complication I would get a increasing difficulty sudoku book, if I wanted pvp I would find a game that actually had a decent format for pvp, you're very close to losing me for good

[dark dew]

This is my first time contacting yall about your content. I want to say that to underscore how much I hate this update! Like it wasnt already hard enough to be a lower lvl (39) trying catch up, you turn the entire map it kill systems. At least keep it designated systems. Why dont you send a message out to lower lvl players telling them that mining monday last all week and you can't do you dailies without higher lvl players constantly hunting you down constantly. Pretty sad when you have to send a mining ship do a mission

[errant gale]

Who in your office can't get enough to eat? Who needed to literally pull donations from players? Remember the idiots from Scopuli: “Greed breeds poverty.” Personally, I am leaving the game, which is what I wish for all adequate players. And I’ll add that as a developer, scopuli is already a corpse for me

[rough belfry]

People need to read how the thing scores then. You get more points for opc hunting. I'm sure people are just overly excited and trying to max things as fast as possibly and that it will normalize once they figure it out.

Alliances really should get people together and trade realta hits to get things done

[torpid kelp]

wtf fix this massive laggggggggggggggggggg server 139

[buoyant ether]

Forced PvP is WRONG! if the game has come to that, it’s time for something else to occupy my time.

[woven ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-dancing-cartoon-space-gif-5447613

[spiral tartan]

Sure you likely get more points per pvp fight, but fining the OPC miners, especialy ones that have more than 2k OPC. (Well, except for G2)

[willow patrol]

That's not what's happening though. I can't play the game in the imaginary world where people aren't doing what they're. actively doing right now. There's no server for that.

[delicate sandal]

This arc is a desaster.... permanent pvp and raiding of mining players.... you will see hundreds or thousands of PvE players leaving the game

[wary citrus]

@tidal notch Here is the problem with new buildings, they should NOT start at level 1, it is horrible mechanic and will take people forever to get the building to a lvl equal to their ops to even be useful. i got the building to lvl 7, the chest gives a whooping 98 building mats when I need 948 just to go to war roon lvl 8,,, this will take forever to ever be useful.

[spiral tartan]

Who forces you to participate? Skip the event. Same with treasury, you're free to skip it.

[oak tundra]

when you are the content it is hard to skip. lol

[harsh oar]

even when you ignore pvp-parts.

[manic sapphire]

Forced pvp that has 60+ players attacking those 39 and below is ridiculous. I can't even leave my base to do anything...as soon as I enter a system I am killed. No mining, missions, or getting dailies done because I am not a whale, even though I do spend. I had another game do this, I quit that one and if things don't improve within the week I will be quitting this game

[hexed spire]

PvP means no gameplay - you can skip the event, but you would still be attacked carrying out your dailies etc. Growth stops, spending stops - because the fun stops. This is a really bad decision by Scopely. 🦅

[eager cape]

@tidal notch what happened to the previews?🧐

[ruby prism]

Restarting game only clears ghost ships for a minute

[marsh tide]

Just my point of view but if you continue to make it harder for lower ops and keep increasing gaps in the pvp system new players will quickly leave and your current base of players isn’t happy what are your plans to keep it alive

[spiral tartan]

That's not a smart way to play. If you look at the scoring, alliances should exchange Realta hits in their territories. Why travel all over and waste time? Expensive repairs. And if you kill someone while out doing dailies, that will get back to you fast, so why risk it?

[ruby prism]

The whales have to carry the lower ops players in waves. More work for them. I agree. I have had several conversations with higher level players and the new content is making the game unappealing also. Seen a decrease in our members playing time. To much of a grind. No longer fun.

[fossil pond]

Awesome job... Game is lagging, full of bugs and now not even loading anymore... Do you even test what you are doing before starting the update?!
I don't even start to talk about your 2 day pvp event, when you can't leave your base because all money player are waiting for you...

[hexed spire]

The WarRoom makes it clear that extra points are gained through raiding materials etc. This makes stealing acceptable , and prohibits fair play….

[stray barn]

Please consider not buying another pack from Scopely if you don’t like this upgrade.

[manic sapphire]

@rigid vapor they are no longer getting a dime from me

[spiral tartan]

But OPC hunting is allowed by most RoE's anyway. If you've ever hunted OPC miners, you know how much time you are wasting finding targets when surveys start maturing in mid 20's.

[frigid willow]

I’m so disappointed that Scopley feels that it has to force players to PvP. Perhaps if those who thought up this new mechanic would take a few steps back and work on fixing the bugs, getting the different event resets to reset at the same time, to give G6 players their own leaderboard instead if it being 50 to 70; to update the old mechanics such as swarm Sunday; apex awards for eclipse Thursday, etc. to be more relevant for players that have outgrown them, need I go on? It’s a shame that this will force players to quit the game over an ill-thought out mechanic.

[muted ivy]

Wow, the game is now completely unplayable

[wet meteor]

Does no one think about readability when they make these UI's?

[sharp hazel]

Nope, nor functionality.

[hexed spire]

Forced PvP is wrong on every level - and be sure, this is what is happening. However, anyone may dress this up - it isn’t why the majority of people play the game. Most servers have fair play rules about OC hunting, most players don’t have the time to sit and reload every few minutes. The game is meant to be fun…. If Scopely think that fun means deliberately hurting and ruining other players enjoyment - they have misread the mood of this thread..

[limber oriole]

Yay scopley, make an event where someone with a 200m power ship can camp a mission point for all the kills they want.

More people are upset over this than the actual arc itself right now

[icy patio]

farming quant in sc, haven't done that in months

[wary citrus]

@scopley Please end forced PVP, PVP SLB are the worst, all it does it burn out people that will pair up with a buddy and swap realta kills,,, there is NO POINT

[gritty viper]

"This is a pvp game! Survival of the richest! If you ain't rich then don't play!" - the apologists when they wake up here.

[vivid raft]

Sad but true ...

[violet nymph]

I don't really get how anyone at Scopely could think that it's fun to be shot down the moment you leave your shielded base. I literally haven't been able to do a single thing since this arc started.

[eternal shard]

Your new "view" option before purchasing anything in faction stores has to go. That is the most stupidest update you done. Wtf

[prime socket]

Incursion = 1 day of pvp
Player response… this sucks. But it’s just a day.

Warchest = 1 week of pvp
Player response … this REALLY sucks. And it’s a whole freaking week. 🤬

[sharp hazel]

Ive seen players killing idle auto farming xp ships of other players and others killing empty envoy ships trying to do the new mission. Its truly insane the mayhem this update has brought with it.

[oak lava]

anyone else not getting pvp warship points for ships killed in dock?

[hazy lark]

This has got to be the most ridiculous thing to date now we give free passes to bully people! Very offensive and goes against their own policy on bullying so typical. @rigid vapor

[spiral tartan]

So you haven't hunted OPC and know what you're talking about then, since you ignore the point and change topics. Also, your definition of fun is sending out a ship and calling it back. Fine. Mine isn't.

[hexed spire]

It’s a ‘Charter for Bullies’…

[gritty viper]

test

[versed veldt]

Beside the general negative feedback on the forced PVP i just wanted to highlight this as one of the worst updates ever! 🤦‍♂️ Can now no longer compare cost of researches without goin into every single one? Not to mention extra clicks just to claims daily rewards! 🤦‍♂️ make things easier scopely... not harder! 😫

[marsh tide]

I enjoy being able to at least do dailies without it costing me countless more rss to get them done when players I have no chance are constantly turning me to debris

[prime socket]

All the extra clicks in the faction menus is JUST what everyone wanted. 🤬🤬🤬

[gritty viper]

Wrong, it forces you to engage longer with the game. /sarcasm in all seriousness I can't even click on the ones without "view" anymore to see what's up. I don't know how many Xindi things I have because it won't open. That wasn't the case before.

[vocal pollen]

Great event design … all big players are camping in the event systems and are killing people who want to do their events …

[waxen tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056> Even after all the problems the War Room already creates with people being forced to PvP…
Any poor soul who was at work when their alliance unlocks it misses out on the first week entirely?!
Come on Scopely, do better.

[tropic crown]

Way turn the server into a ghost town, everyone seems to be in hiding.

[undone onyx]

This game had potential until today's update. Now each of my ships is destroyed moments after leaving the station. What's the point of doing daily tasks if they can't be completed? And since I can't get rss and develop the station, I'll simply play another game soon and it won't be the STFC. Is this what you wanted, devs at Scopely?

[dapper carbon]

Nice new features, love them superimposed screens, have to clear localization every 10mins or so because I have 5 or more screens on top of each other

[finite pivot]

Love the new features. This PvP should of been locked to systems like with incursions PvP events

[spare barn]

The game has not been enjoyable to play for a long time now. Been holding on thinking “they promised improvements… quality over quantity…blah blah blah” and “you’ve been playing since August 2017; you can’t quit now”. lies Scopely told me and lies I told myself. Quantity of bugs, glitches, and other problems are up. Quality of life and game enjoyment are down. Thanks for making it an easier decision to leave the game and not look back!!!

[undone onyx]

The problem is catastrophically simple. Soon there will be no rss for rebuilding ships and none of the weaker players will want to continue playing. There will be a handful of players with great ships, who will gradually eliminate themselves. The last one should turn off the server.

[finite pivot]

You have literally broken every server and their leaderships. I alone have spent 7 hours dealing with ROE breaches .... Times that by the number of alliances and that's just my sever. . . Done here... On the verge of quitting this game last straw ...

[prime socket]

Scopely, when we say “worst update ever” each month, that is not a challenge for you to try and top yourself the next month.

[livid stone]

This is a huge issue for sure. Some of my teammates and I worked on ways to finish the warchest fast and had no idea we essentially locked out any teammate that hasn't built it yet. Obviously just a problem this first run, but you all should send comp chests to alliance members impacted by it just to clear it up <@&509690795536941056>

[split elm]

Scopely... Great Work.... With this update u killing our game.
Purge time for everyone everytime !
Normal gameplay no more possible.
So a lot of players will be deinstall the game. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[vital void]

Did scopely decide they have too many players? The whales have decided no one gets to play the game at all anymore. I can't understand why anyone thought this was a good idea.

[civic haven]

I already subscribe to your YouTube channel. The video icon just sort of gets in the way. What about an option to opt out in Settings?

[viral kelp]

the idea of anyone thinking together is what bothers me, a lot of events all with some target that mixed on worst timing make all ships a target anywhere. OMG. btw when do you think of using some test server to avoid a ton of new bugs monthly? (have to restart my game every ten minutes to be able to see some moving ships)

[slow vector]

agreed, it's especially frustrating in ex-borg as there's a lot of favors and it was good to be able to see what you could afford at a glance

[undone onyx]

In the current situation, none of the weaker players will spend a cent on the game, since they will soon stop playing it anyway. And strong players don't have to do this either, since they've already spent a lot. If Scopely has no income, it will have to rethink its marketing strategy and fire those directors who came up with these brilliant ideas for the update.

[tame sphinx]

The only redeeming feature this update has is that I read about the impending disaster ahead of time and stocked up on resources so I could shield and wait it out.
This is idiocy.
Seriously, you even forced us to break the IFF system for alliances to compete in your stupid event.
Does anyone there ever even play the game or do you just grant yourselves infinite resources and go in and smash things and consider it fun?
This is awful.

[trail zenith]

Doubling the clicks to go through the Faction stores has to be one of your worst ideas ever. I didn't think it would be possible to make daily redeems more painful but you certainly proved me wrong. Revert the change.

[gritty viper]

Good luck running armadas or anything outside of deep space if players decide to hit armadas for points. Is this new pvp thing going to be a constant thing or is it just this week?

[vale wasp]

The extra click due to the view button wasn't intended, it'll be fixed.

[uneven valve]

In 3 years like most of scoply mistakes

[trail zenith]

Okay, there's been three official announcements today and that's not in any of them.

[red girder]

So, did Scopely mean to destroy the usefullness of the Monaveen this arc or is that unintended?

[undone onyx]

Maybe this is Scopely's strategy - "if you can't mine the raw materials, you have to buy them in our store." If you want to play, you have to buy, if you don't buy, you're out of the game. It's pure Darwinism and hyper-capitalism at the same time.

[lament ivy]

Love the new warroom but my alliance want to know how to get cloaking devices for theirs as mine is built and invisible

[red girder]

Well, I hate the new warroom : ). The loss of autogrinding in Eclipse space I can live with, but the loss of Monaveen autogrinding hurts much worse than anything gained from the warroom.

[crimson stream]

Christmas hostiles!

[quick coral]

Server wide SLB PVP is making players actively look at quitting. Might want to reconsider this move....

[tight carbon]

They won't

[calm anchor]

You obviously haven't been paying much attention them. I'm hearing a lot of players ready to quit after this dumpster fire.

[tight carbon]

I meant Scopely won't reconsider. I've been paying attention for hours now thanks.

[undone onyx]

You can't play a game that can't be played. And spending a trillion dollars on a few ships that will turn out to be outdated anyway because someone has already bought a better one is not the best idea for having a good time. So I'm done here.

[wary citrus]

<@&509690795536941056> Hey nice QoL, i went from never caring about OPC hunting to spending hours for this stupid war room that will take 10 years to lvl up and be useful, Game is supposed to be fun NOT work

[tidal notch]

Was referring to the Exborg Expansion and Ultra/Galactic recruit updates.

[frosty tinsel]

The PvP makes doing any task more effort than the game is worth

[tidal notch]

This is feedback that I'm making sure the team hears.

[scenic trail]

Are they trying to game YouTube’s algorithm or something by making me click videos I don’t care to watch just to clear the pips? Multiple times a day? Or does it not count if I have no interest in watching the videos? Should be fixed or add a setting to disable videos.

[tight carbon]

Hearing and doing something about are two different things.

[tidal notch]

Yes. And it starts with passing it on.

[frosty tinsel]

People are camping out in swarm areas or on mission points and just blowing up everything that comes by.

[tight carbon]

Maybe the "team" should get their own boots on the ground and see the amount of displeased customers for themselves once in awhile.

[bright grail]

You may be relying the info, but I have doubts they’ll “hear” anything

[calm anchor]

Of course, if they actually played their own game and listened to the players, they wouldn't make stupid decisions like this

[bright grail]

“I know how to get people to rage spend - we do server-wide PvP All The Time!!!”

[tidal notch]

I get the frustration with this arc and that I'm new here. Coming from the private server, I worked on getting positive changes implemented in the game and it starts with communicating the issues to the team. But I do understand your skepticism.

[radiant terrace]

Since you are passing on the info that everyone hates global pvp, they tried it months ago, and promised not to do it anymore after all of the complaints

[wary citrus]

what does a lvl 7 building do for a ops 50 plus player???? building should start closer to the players ops lvl. ...

[tidal notch]

That's what I've been taking back.

[last nest]

yes

[nocturne prawn]

considering you have a higher stat for that to be a bonus amount of - no you shouldnt, it does more than it does for a lower level already given they are % boosts

[frank stag]

This arc completely sucks....

[willow patrol]

I appreciate that you're bringing back feedback, but I just can't see how this can be fixed. Game design set out to create all out war, all the time. There's no "tweaking" that. This isn't a case where the chests aren't quite paying out enough or the hostiles are a little hard. Game design set out with intent to have everyone our there destroying each other in a game with wildly imbalaced PvP. I don't know what can be done. That's why we're seeing people quitting right now. There's no "well maybe they'll roll out a fix". This is going exactly as intended. It's fun for the top 1-10%, the rest of us can't play the game.

[tidal notch]

I get that, but we already made an adjustment on how to source the WR by not having to do the mission so that players can't camp in those systems. Its a small change, but still reflects that the team is listening. I'll be pushing for more changes.

[dark dew]

@tidal notch

[buoyant ether]

Except other game requirements, like PvE and mining still make me a target. The event can be ‘skipped’ but I will still be targeted by all those that are actively doing the event. Scopely is just wrong forcing PvP on a game clearly never designed for it since it constantly crashes or lags so bad it’s not possible to accomplish anything. BTW - PvP in this game requires NO SKILL, only $$$$

[restive sentinel]

The addition of more varied 3* nodes spaced out in territory is a good change, thanks for that!
Global PvP though is devastatingly bad mainly due to the massive difference in ops levels that encourage hitting down as much as possible. As Ops 32 i have almost no hope of competing with ops 38 yet can still be hit by ops 46.
Its a case of my 3Mil Saladin and 3.5Mil Intrepid getting slapped aside by 25M+ ships and there is **Nothing **that i can do about it.
I would like to add, Thank you Obsidian. Replying to these messages even if its a case of just saying you are passing the info up is great. Keep up the good work at least we know someone is listening. Even if it falls on deaf ears above you are doing a fine job!

[dark dew]

@tidal notch have all your team start with lvl 30 bases and try to do anything in the fame as it is right now.

[unkempt roost]

The store works regardless of your ops!! 😉

[slate orbit]

I dontthink your grasping the core issue here. If we are not doing the missions where do you think the bigs go. To the areas we need to complete the battlepass or events, yall have technically without trying removed 100s if not more players ability to play the game in the time we have. My 6 trip hirogen grind, Jem hidar grind, any grind is now a 15 trip due to lvl 60 + killing my little 42 ent cause it's easy meat.

[dark dew]

@unkempt roost

[languid shard]

A lot of people in my alliance are small and/or not interested in PVP. This forced PVP will cause people to flee the game.

[bold marlin]

Perhaps you might pass on that for the first time in three years I will NOT be buying this months battle pass, if only for being so detached from the game as to not understand that all the missions points would be camped.

0n server 168 the player population of Yarda is down to 13, all 40+ and mission points being camped by whales. What’s the point of paying for content when I’m unable to do it because of players with wallets big enough to fund their inadequacy therapy?

As to the quality over quality promise…. Hasn’t been met, will never be met. Not till you stop adding loops and grinds for a few months.

[radiant terrace]

This War Room has forced an endless global pvp. It has to be removed or most players will quit. Also, removing our ability to diplomatically mark alliances how we want has destroyed the diplomatic part of the game.

[potent badge]

I do not like the change to some redeems that means we need to view first then claim, when before this update it was just straight claim, simple claim time is increasing with this not decreasing???

[tidal notch]

Having a conversation with a team memeber now...

[sacred garden]

Used to really like the game but it’s gotten so focused on making money from the whales and promoting ever more bullying with it’s extremely unfair pvp since yall allow players in their 60’s and players with ships in the hundred mil range to hit people that have no way to compete with that. I like a little pvp from time to time when it’s more fair were their is a chance of winning. This bit were players can’t even compete against these whales with these enormous ships were there is no chance at winning needs to be fixed . All this new feature does is promote more bullying those that can’t even compete. Ain’t no reason for someone more then 4 lvls above or below to be able to hit someone they no has no chance in hell of winning. Lvl 60’d and hundred mil point ships should never be able to hit lvl 40’s or 25 mil ships. Fair play is something you need to work on for it ain’t fair in any way .

[still mirage]

@tidal notch perhaps a suggestion, scale the pvp points off of power destroyed. Hitting down then becomes a waste of time and strategically hitting up becomes more rewarding.

[languid shard]

I also will no longer buy the BP until I see if this gets fixed or not. If it does, great, if not it'll be time to put this game on the shelf.

[tropic crown]

The person who comes along and attacks you for points when you not doing the event or mission.

[haughty isle]

Really??? Making me click MORE things??? I have to click INTO MORE things to see the cost of those favors? It was fine the way it was. You could see what you were saving up for. I get that it is more consistent, but it's still a terrible change.

[dark dew]

@tidal notch always adding more of a grind and now make it impossible to do that. Why force pvp. I won't be spending anymore money on this game till this is fixed.

[slate orbit]

This was a unintended result, fix could come as soon as tommorrow. Said in other channels.

[bold marlin]

Tbh, even though I won’t be getting this months BP either I doubt very much it’ll change $copely’s mind. The whales fund them and that’s all they care about as far as I can see.

I did give them the benefit of doubt when they talked about quality over quantity but that was just talk and the extra loops and grinds is proof.

[tropic crown]

I am guessing if this wasn’t done to stop auto grinding they see it as a side benefit.

[median wolf]

Some somewhat positive feedback, the way the Gorn systems are setup seems great on a first glance. Intervals of 3 levels as you go up to the next system, with just one level of hostile spawning in each system, and the grind seems quick enough that it's not a major hassle to add to the daily grind.

Now if we could get the silent hostile systems changed to that setup (even with keeping the tokens for entry), of one hostile level per system instead of the current two, then the silent grind would be exponentially improved and be less of a daily headache as well.

[exotic bison]

Remove this PIP, not going to buy anything and i dont need to see it all the time

[civic haven]

And these

[gritty viper]

That big middle finger energy directed at the poor saps who bought the Monaveen instead of taking the "loser" f2p track like I did.

[lilac crater]

Current design has already had 6 team delete the game as it's being framed as for big spending players. Not a good first day
Tiered scoring is the least that can be done to avoid this. Many cannot complete missions either. Hard for a ops 40 to compete with a 1.1b power ship camping.

[olive summit]

Check your items? If you did, my god scopely, thats some hot trash

[slow dock]

I've lost at least one of my own as well due to this out of control PvP everywhere aspect they started today with. Can't do a damned thing for other game/event/daily tasks while the bigger megalodon players are out hunting everyone.

[junior sierra]

there is no tool on planet earth capable of taking in all this feedback, thank gawd most of it repeats 🤣 good luck hammy! @tidal notch

[tidal notch]

I have seen a LOT of recurring themes today! A lot of players were really helpful by being constructive. Others not so much...

[bold marlin]

Oh FFS. You can’t even complete freebooters because there’s a bunch of high 40 and low 50 players camping them right now.

Seriously, I’d happily pay whale money for being able to move to a PvE only server.

Can’t complete the ‘Clear the Coast’ because they’re being camped. That’s the reason I’m not paying the BP this month. It’s maximum value comes from being able to complete all event, to get the maximum loot so if you miss one it’s a wasted 20 quid.

It’s just the sheer ineptitude of creating a global PVP event then putting in BP events requiring you to risk getting ganked by some whale 15 levels higher than you. I mean how can you NOT see that was going to be a problem.

[radiant terrace]

@tidal notch War Room has completely broken the game, even after the promise of no more global pvp.

I thought of a way to fix it, even though removing it would be best.
Make a series of systems for metered pvp, and have only them count for the War Room (and similar events). Only set ops levels could enter them, maybe level 16-22, 19-25, 22-28, ...
That way, the rest of the game would survive, and the systems wouldn't just be a few whales sitting there.

[slow dock]

They've camped in just about every system that matters for the event tasks and Daily tasks. Can't do a DAMNED thing without getting hit.

[tidal notch]

A little hashly worded, but this is solid feedback. Thanks!

[nocturne prawn]

So Ghost ships arnt fixed at all I see

[waxen tinsel]

That’s from a member of my alliance, not mine. He has no keys, along with others.
I think he even had pvp kills count toward completion, but he finished the building too late.

[short owl]

@tidal notch really, whats this bs scopely released? ghost ships, lag, subpar quality at skyhigh prices ... is this company able to release something straight or not?

[fringe stirrup]

Or even better, the pvp should happen in systems like the WD systems. Those who want to participate join the battle and you gave points based on your performance there. Some time ago you guys said that this new PvP system will be isolated from the normal systems. Even better, make those systems so all people have the same ship power level to make it somewhat enjoyable

[junior sierra]

this is reoccurring - long term feedback. I think we all thought Beta Palorios would be something like this way back [ arena warp cells ]. Non gated is better of course.... but I 100% agree

[vital sequoia]

I hope you are really pushing them on the following critical points:

1. There is a large population of this games playerbase that does not like PvP. You have data from how many people log off and leave during Incursions, plus how many say so here in Discord EVERY MONTH, that they don't wish to play this way.
2. Lets just say 10% of players fall into the "Turtle up and wait for Incursions to End" category. Could be more, could be less. (Probably more, I'd wager) That means 10% of your players will log off this game and not come back. Not for a day, not for a week, but as long as non stop PvP is going on.
3. More PvP doesn't equal BETTER PvP, it's just more PvP. Do better PvP, with targeted regions or systems, better structures for fair fights. I don't care what Realta strategy you want to say works, a Level 55+ vs a Level 44 is NOT a fair fight and never will be a fair fight.
4. Today, you disabled the game for a lot of your PvE players. This game has so many things, Borg, Mantis, Monaveen, Faction Grinds, Resource gathering, etc. All of it is rendered useless or not fun by todays downgrade.
5. Angering this much of your players, means they won't spend money. Sure, you have to keep the whales happy. But if the game's only for the whales, that's all who'll be left.
6. Scopely is breaking its Quality over Quantity promise they made to their players. If we can't trust you to keep your word, why would we spend money on you?

[gritty viper]

I remember being the quite often lone voice on here yelling about Incursions. Defenders would swarm me. Now look. Told y'all that was a bad idea... now it's Incursions every day!

[bold marlin]

Oh that’s was me being diplomatic and trying to operate within the server rules, believe me. lol

I’m just stunned that this was allowed to get through quality control, do you guys have a test server for this stuff? Anyone with just a basic understanding of the game should’ve picked up on the mission and event camping. This is why I’ve no faith in the quality over quantity promise. That and the, I think, 6 new loops added to the game since you made that promise.

[languid shard]

Incursions are a bad idea, we lose an entire day waiting for them to end.

[civic tundra]

@tidal notch just copy and paste this to the devs.

[radiant terrace]

Yeah. Gates aren't important, just not global pvp.
Having it a little easier for players since it's a major part of the game now, is why i suggested closer limits, and locked systems seems easier than limiting scoring.

[tidal notch]

This is a solid list and will be passed on.

[wraith cedar]

In my opinionated n Scopley do not really care about the starterk universe or it's values they think off it solely as a cash cow to milk as much as possible.

[terse shell]

That’s… an exhausting amount of milestones

[bold marlin]

Oh don’t get me started on Incursions….. 😂

[vital sequoia]

I hear ya. 👍

[willow patrol]

Look, I'm not a fan of incursions but it's one day a month. Losing a day of progress is tolerable. But this. The ongoing, never ending intent of this is what makes it different.

[gritty viper]

And now we have both this and incursions.

[waxen tinsel]

@tidal notch Are you talking to the team about a possible comp chest for people locked out of the war chest because their alliance finished the event too quickly?
Players should not be punished for being part of an active alliance, and yet they were.

[wraith cedar]

This release has made me uninstall the game and quite possibly never return to such an imbalanced game. And forced pvp which only People with large wallets can enjoy playing

[tidal notch]

Think you should be able to ping support if you missed out because your alliance finished too quickly.

[bold marlin]

I bet when you’ve finished your shift you’ll be going home thinking, ‘I earned my money today’

Always a good sign when a games community discords explodes 10 minutes after an update drops 🤣

[waxen tinsel]

Considering another player from a different server replied to me above confirming this is a major problem… #💬-general-feedback message
I fully expect that to just result in hundreds of tickets that get closed because the mechanic is working as designed. CS tickets rarely, if ever, help when something has been designed to lock you out.

[obsidian sage]

I'm loving this new Trand Scopely's develloped for making Hostiles that are impossible to kill unless you spend ridiculous amounts of money on the game... Dripping Sarcasm intended.

[bold marlin]

new trend?

[tidal notch]

Team talked about this specific issue. Was told that players in your situation should contact support. I'd open a ticket, but understand if you don't think it will help.

[runic narwhal]

[Interior Scopely Design and Game Division] Scopely 1: Well it seems that the majority of players are still here. We tried Quarterly Territory Campaigns. We tried Monthly Wave Defense BP's. We gave them a useless Battle Simulator that actually looks like our false advertising. We hit them with Q and his nonsense. How can we torture them more? I mean, they are complete suckers for pain. Scopely 2: I know, let's make an Arc that turns the whole game into PvP that is weighed and balanced towards the big money spenders! That will weed out the F2P, and reward our big spenders for their efforts. Scopely 1: Brilliant! Make it so Number 2!

[languid shard]

Customer service "Thank you for letting us know about the problem you are having with our game. Rest assured that we want to do everything we can to keep the game enjoyable for our customers"
"We have looked into your complaint and have determined there is no problem and we are closing this ticket so you can't respond and clarify or object in any way. Thank you and don't forget to spend $99.99 today"

[waxen tinsel]

I will post your replies in our discord and encourage them all to file tickets.

[icy patio]

logged back in after cleaning up around house and was killed by someone 15 levels above me 5 seconds of entering new gorn system, closed game again... keep this up I'll just uninstall in a few days. sweet update

[slate orbit]

It's sad that your player base for this game has got to the feeling that contacting support is a waste of time, and useless, and for you to Say that you understand that a player (possible paying customer) could feel that way is a very bad indicator for scopley as a whole. It directly demonstrates a terrible customer experience.

[tidal notch]

Appreciated. If there is a lot of players in your situation then we can look into a comp chest. But for now, I've been told its best to contact support.

[obsidian sage]

Are you NOT reading this Thread? It's rather OBVIOUS most of your Customer Base feels this way. Even I as a Low Paying Member, have Voiced this repeatedly.

[gritty viper]

Might as well send them a goodbye gift.

[willow patrol]

Just want to say that despite the deep frustration, I think many of us are really appreciative of your efforts today.

[bold marlin]

Major problem right now is that the PvP’ers are loving this event and that’s all the feedback the suits will care about, the positive feedback.

Hamster can be as diligent as he can and usually is and pass all this negative feedback but the odd’s of it being actioned is minimal. Were it not, we wouldn’t be on our seventh new loop/grind in as many months.

[vital sequoia]

I'll agree on that. While I'm taking a "I'll believe it when I see it" opinion on whether or not the Team fixes things and apologizes to the PvE crowd. It is nice at least seeing someone responding to what we're saying.

[civic tundra]

As positive as OH is trying to be, there is 0 trust in scopely. It's not his fault, it's just the hand he's dealt

[tidal notch]

@here

I want to let everyone know that I've heard (a LOT!) from the players here today about your thoughts about the PvP focus on this arc. I have consolidated the main points of frustration and made sure that the team knows how you're feeling.

I can't promise that a change is coming tomorrow, but I think that the team is **very aware **of how this has impacted the game.

I'm hearing you what you're saying and making sure its also heard by the team.

[winged crest]

Good on ya. Thank you.

[wise kelp]

Thanks OH

[runic patrol]

Galaxy wide pvp was stupid the first time you'll thought it up

[tidal notch]

Thank you!

[livid pasture]

I like the PvP.

[lone breach]

Ah, so they noticed pack sales nose dive like Discovery shielding a rock slide

[broken pawn]

The pvp is okay...the scoring sucks though

[kind minnow]

punish larger players for hitting small ;p

[short spear]

Tbh, i am more concerned with the QoL of faction screens, having to press those view buttons is tidious 🙂

[languid cloak]

Yeah... this was a dumb idea and whomever came up with it should be sacked.

[plain peak]

o yeah i live for having to kill 1250 times to get mediocre rewards

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/me-david-rose-are-you-talking-to-me-who-turn-around-gif-27634884

[vital coral]

PvP what ever. Phantom shipsd is the bigger issue imho

[white glacier]

I'm not a PvP player but I'm not complaining about the event personally

[molten dew]

@tidal notch How about the faction store changes, alot of feedback on that too. Why would you make us have double the clicks for no reason?

[finite mural]

this is being looked into, it wasn't intentional

[wraith cedar]

OH please also let them know players have left due to this forced pvp not that people are just unhappy but they have lost a lot of potential cash because of this.

[bright sun]

If you could make nonopc miners give the most points that would be great!

[bronze igloo]

I'm loving it but the alliance milestones are a bit high to get the keys for the war room

[summer oak]

All in all, this could be worse. At least you made it non-survey

Would be nice to still auto grind, but all in all not terrible

[thin lynx]

Get rid of the points different for how you mark a alliance

[burnt marsh]

Why do I see alerts on artifacts, that cannot be select, same with hollow deck officers

[static eagle]

so many people ready to quit

[idle hemlock]

Please fix the LAG on 27 i would like to do a wave defense and grind some rep

[devout marten]

If this war room stays the way it is, I'll be quiting too after 5 years

[radiant sand]

Yes please. Having to set everyone to KoS for max points is inviting an accidental war

[strange pulsar]

If this 'update' now has made this game a fully pvp game. SO long farewell and thanks for all the fish.

[gritty magnet]

Thank you for listening to us 🙏🏼

[foggy gust]

I'll be direct with my feedback. I'm not giving scopely any more money. There is no reason for anyone who can't spend $300,000 on to play. there is no win state. It's not PVP, it's PK'ing. PVP implies an even playing field where skill matters. This is PK'ing where someone with a severe advantage goes around killing pretty much everyone else on whim. If I could get all my money back, I would.

[obsidian sage]

Concurred. Server 9 is fairly consistent in Agreeing to PvP IF you're OPC, and that's a brought a Measure of Reasonable Conflict. So, the PvP ISN'T the Main Concern, the ridiculous impossibility of Progression IS.

[bold marlin]

Oh I’m nicking that Gif 🤣

[stiff marsh]

They are still hitting survey because few know this.

[thick swallow]

I’m hearing a bunch of FarmVille players 😉 I like this arc. Don’t have yet another hostile grind to add to the pile and everyone mines and kills hostiles daily. Having PvP stuff adds spice to the game

[split glen]

Any advice on getting my ship unstuck faster? Cleared cache, multiple devices. Cant recall/warp/summon. Am I out of using my flagship for the next 24-48hrs?

[vital sequoia]

Except not, because surveys count for the Alliance Leaderboard, so surveys aren't safe either.

[cloud lantern]

what the actual, a ping not in the official announcements? 🙀

[toxic plinth]

The in-game lore has the Klingon fight club happening in specific systems. Why isn't the gameplay doing the same thing?

[shell jungle]

@tidal notch I hope that's true... I don't blame you at all, you're doing a job for a company that listens to the wrong people

[willow patrol]

The game has literally been turned into farmville. All I can do is mine!

[brisk ocean]

Make miners negative 1k score for the pvp, pvp slb and pvp alb

Watch the people supposedly clamoring for PVP not do anything because of course they just want an excuse to kill a miner with a ship 20x+ its power

[tidal notch]

Thought Id try something different. Should I put those kinds of posts on the official announcement next time?

[ornate rose]

Just like they've taken all the rest of concerns and comments into consideration. I don't see anything changing. It's a line they've used over and over just to get people off their backs

[leaden umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-ian-mc-kellen-gandalf-prepare-for-battle-prepare-gif-4879285

[delicate glacier]

Had a rough day at work got home till chill fer a bit was killed 4 min into the game by a player 900. over my lvl SO ya Done far better games out there then this i have only been in this game for almost 2 weeks Done BY all

[plain peak]

its a turkey shoot and so many people in one system it wont update and remove ships properly...

[white glacier]

The people wanting a specific PvP system obviously don't remember the whales blockading Beta Paldorios back in the day

[lucid socket]

Send a ticket to support. Put the words "Ship Stuck" on the very first line. Put nothing else on the first line. It will lead you to the fastest way to deal with this issue

[runic patrol]

Wonder how many will quit this time around

[kind minnow]

consentual pvp will score higher then non consentual id say. u control the amounts. grievers can get nothing if ppl play their cards right. and this in itself is pvp too.

[nova sierra]

Naaa, all good. It was just a good steep template, nothing more ^^

[civic tundra]

And hopefully CS will reply within an hour. They're a little busy today

[swift cobalt]

How in the heck is an Ops 69 able to pop me,ops 43, outside of territory 🤨

[wise kelp]

Hola OH, I reread your statement and would like to make one call out. It’s not just the pvp arc, it’s the pvp war room. We have some folk hitting upc miners because the war room scores. This activity would continue outside of the arc based on the building which is indefinitely recurring. Again, thank ya for lending an ear and your voice

[stiff marsh]

When you have level 49 players with an impulse crew there's not much chance of pvp. It's not thought out completely. I'm 35 and can't even react when I enter a system.😤

[devout marten]

try logging in and out on another device, it works for me

[summer oak]

5min cooldown is the worst. Sorry, not sorry Hammy.

I appreciate you reaching out here to get more feedback in a more personal way.

I guess surveys still do count for the war room event and the ALB. Maybe have negative points for UPC surveys so that you aren't destroying player dynamics on every server. People are petty and will quit over the smallest things.

[subtle lichen]

89 has roe as usual. Our reads that it’s only suspended in named systems 🤷‍♀️

[clear dune]

What even am I supposed to do here

[vital sequoia]

Not surprising. After all, the Devs broke the game today. 🤣

[edgy blade]

Tja da ist der Schuss bei scopely gewaltig nach hinten losgegangen. Eure unermessliche Gier wird euch noch das finanzielle Rückgrat brechen und ihr werdet, wenn ihr so weiter macht, sehr bald zu 100% berechtigt in die Versenkung verschwinden, wenn ihr eure Strategien nicht total ändert. Viele Gamer haben heute endgültig aufgehört und noch mehr sind nicht mehr bereit, ihr hart verdientes Geld in eure skrupellosen Geschäftsgebahren mit schlechten Progammierern zu investieren.

[true patio]

well heres the thing without your knowledge they have done this before and they've changed those events to be system specific due to the outrage of having basically nothing anyone can do. so its not like something like that is easy to forget but i can understand they aren't like elephants who remember everything.

[woeful nymph]

If a change doesn't happen, I will be leaving this game after 5+ years, hard stop. If I wanted to play EVE online where I can't fly anywhere and do missions without dying, I'd play that game. I will not play a game where the developers support people getting ganked and jumped galaxy wide on a weekly basis. It's not fun when you have high level players obliterating you constantly.

[icy patio]

Signed back in after 'cooling off' from initial anger, after entering system I went boom within a minute of signing in. If my ships blow up 20 seconds after leaving the station no matter where I send them, I just won't send them anywhere... wonder how long the game will entertain me then. Not a 'get gud' issue when the people attacking you are consistently 15+ levels up and measures ship power in Billions or more... I don't have a pain fetish

[dry bear]

Horrible rollout. Why do galaxy wide pvp when we crucified the team for that before

[idle hemlock]

Scopley wants us to kill each other. Makes them money I am planning on boycotting the rest of this PVP crap

[ornate rose]

^

[foggy gust]

you're right. it's hogcrap. there's no competition. it's whoever throws the most money at the game gets to instantly kill whoever doesnt. everyone giving you the poop pile shows their actual intelligence is poop.

[solemn forum]

Not so much the events as they events don't give points for surveys, but with the War Room now giving points for any PvP, then it does give them something else to work on hitting players all year long with rewards now beyond standings on the boards.

[lucid socket]

Actually i think that is the only good part of this update....

[sinful socket]

You want to fix it make pvp only with warships and over protected cargo and also only have pvp in neutral space and faction space

[delicate jewel]

But the pvp is not limited to warships only, but miners as well and PLUS GALAXY WIDE, as per war room info text = pvp win points, opc, territory (really such poor try to get ppl assaulted again in garbage tc?)
All I can see in this movement of buglagely is to get ppl shoot each other, breaking roe, and hope they will spend for primes, etc? Really? 👀

[slim shoal]

The mix of too many loops + pvp players trying to kill those trying to keep up with all those loops was bound to create a huge amount of frustration. I don't mind efforts aimed at generating more pvp events and activities, but this definitely has had a "we're nothing but lab rats to Scopely" vibe to it. ("Hey, toss in a raw steak and lets see what those starving wolves do to each other for it! haha!") A small player committee with five minutes to look this over would've come to the obvious conclusion that in its current form it was a bad idea, which means they just didn't care enough to think things through fully and were happy to test things on us (again lol).

Thanks for listening, but in all honesty it has never been the CM's who haven't done enough. Eco did the same thing, collected tons of feedback, sent it up the chain... where we can only assume it was looked at by ownership whenever they needed a laugh. More feedback has gone to die in Scopely's posession than all the warships on all the servers in all the years stfc has been live. 😆

We appreciate you and your efforts... we've just learned enough to expect nothing from it once it leaves your hands.

[woeful rain]

You do realize that the community managers have nothing to do with what content and events get put into the game, right?

[true zealot]

read the war room, the bulk of the scoring is in Teritory, incursions.. only opc ISO and LAT score.. the most... you get free points getting plinked off by a whale

[delicate glacier]

just quit will delete the discord next after I played less then 2 weeks few min's into game today and you have just turned me off to this game no more monies from me either enjoy you're PVP'ers hope they spend enough to keep the game going

[solid creek]

Wow the feedback was on fire when they crashed the game. Now it’s just roaring with this update. I wonder if they will actually listen………

[bold marlin]

New feature, not bug. Apparently

Thanks for that ping @tidal notch I would ask however that whenever you post a response or tell us that the higher ups are actioning on our feedback, just how strong a response to the issue from the players there was. I’ve not seen it go this mental in here for while. lol

[arctic elk]

Wishful thinking

[kind minnow]

and yet u play a game that is designed about that very thing. ;/ lower ops exist to feed higher ops. and spending ones at that

[icy patio]

They need to narrow interaction gap (wth is a 43 doing against a 60?!?) and give negative scoring for repeat aggressors hitting the same player over and over. It would stop trolls pinging people over and over (ha ha you won the first 10 times) and cheaters hitting their alts over and over again

[fathom quarry]

Didn't need a reason to quit the game, but you gave me one anyway.

[waxen tinsel]

I can name 5 players in my alliance affected; which means the real number is probably 20 in my alliance alone.

[tidal notch]

Understood.

[civic haven]

Faction store be like

[subtle lichen]

I must have missed that…

[foggy gust]

1. pvp implies a fair playing field. STFC does NOT have pvp
2. PK'ing is when you kill random players because you can without any repercussions. STFC has PK'ing.

[gritty magnet]

Me too, I hate pvp and got forced into it like many many others on my server. It’s not really possible doing the daily stuff or other events. This step kills the rest of fun out of this game at the moment. If this pvp stuff would only be in special systems happen, everything would be fine and no one would get disturbed. I’m not a fan of forcing ppl to something, it’s not fair and def not fair if whales coming and killing smaller ones.

[silent wolf]

Oh stop sobbing like a woman. Go hunt OPC miners.
You earned this reply by tagged the server, jerk.

[gritty viper]

Sobbing like a woman. Nice misogyny there, and I'm not even a feminist dude.

[true zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/lebowski-cry-strong-men-gif-19580842

[swift cobalt]

I've never seen that ship...but I want one👀
.....in about 5 years😂

[plain smelt]

For me at least once every time a new arc comes out.

[solemn forum]

I did the event mission in a North Star and been using my primaries. The whales and them haven't been bothering players too much outside of the systems the mission relates to and they apparently started it after I completed the mission. After getting the SMS events out of the way minus the last one for mostly swarm and hyrogen being the way to score that I can finish up when the daily goals reset, I've been doing fine, even went with sending Envoys to mine materials in hostile systems to keep the Ad Astra and The Cloak of War points coming in. Maybe on other servers you guys have the whales and them being more of a problem across all systems, but the SMS events can be completed. And for Gorn Venom and United Earth Fleet, it's crystal, tritanium, and some officer shards, not missing out on much if you can't do those.

[foggy gust]

the only game going on here is how scopely can get their fingers deeper in your pockets. they definitely don't care about people who don't pay, or people who don't pay at least $300,000 in a year like all the 65+

[clear sinew]

Put all the whales on one sever and the rest of us can uninstall.

[dire warren]

I'm just gonna do all my stuff at 3am, no problem! I don't see why you guys are complaining, you just do everything in the middle of the night, and surrender any attachment to a normal circadian cycle, and all these issues go away!

[gritty magnet]

I’m also afraid it’s leading to a not healthy future with the being with each other on the server. Ppl will be frustrated and more angry than usual. In my alliance ppl already near to quit the game and others did already. The psychological aspect is not that nice…and not healthy. At least we play this game because we love Star Trek. We shouldn’t forget what Star Trek is about. It’s not about shooting ppl who don’t want to get involved in pvp 🙈

[mighty rock]

A lot of my teammates are confused today because their War Room isn't showing up for them. It's just because they didn't update the game from the App Store, but forcing us to update the app to be able to log in would solve a lot of confusion in the future.

[slim shoal]

You guys remember that TNG episode when The Enterprise was blasting civilian Romulan transports all over Romulus, and some random Klingon ship showed up and blasted the Enterprise to bits, so Picard whined about it to the galactic council and they sent a huge Borg cube to one-shot the Klingon ship? Yeah... that episode was awesome. 😆

[quiet temple]

it is almost 3am here, it is still impossible to do anything

[obsidian sage]

Or Reading the Update Scheduling Notifications miiiiight Help.

[muted sonnet]

Awesome episode, just everything Star Trek is about 😄

[plain peak]

or better stop letting ships 20 levels above you have the abiulity to detroy your ship...

[cloud glen]

cry about it...

[mighty rock]

Programming rule #1: never assume the end-user will do anything you want them to, so always code like the end-user can't understand anything.

So while what you say is true in theory, it's not likely to actually be done in practice

[languid shard]

Anyone have any suggestions for another game where we could bring alliance members over and still be able to play together?

[bronze igloo]

I have dealt with so many complaints from players I have killed today and all I can do is go 🤷‍♂️ it is an event. So many things can be done to change and improve this to make everyone happy. I like it but a lot of others don't.

[foggy gust]

for phone game? Star Citizen you actually GET something for you money, and there's no pay to win. you need skill to win.

[runic patrol]

@woeful rain what the name of this channel 👍I gave my feedback

[dire warren]

If it was an event, I don't think people would be complaining as much. Aspects of this are to all apearances fully permenant changes to how gameplay is incentivized.

[icy patio]

star citizen is a good one to waste money on, almost nft tier, always something new to buy... sound familiar?

[kind minnow]

eve online ;d even credit card warriors arent safe there ;p

[hearty zenith]

Designate a system on your server and have players send G1 and G2 ships to complete this forced on you pointless pvp event.

[slim shoal]

PVP-only systems, 2x for pvp kills in territory, 5x for pvp kills in territory during takeovers, no points for galaxy kills... bam, problem solved.

[vital sequoia]

@tidal notch One thing that is becoming evident to me, reading this feedback, Scopely needs to address this RIGHT NOW. You’re doing the best you can OH, but the Dev team or the Arc runner or the Content Manager need to put out a video or a statement to give a clear indication that our needs and concerns will be addressed. The longer this drags on, the less forgiveness they will get and the more people who will be ready to leave the game.

Tomorrow is too late. Somebody with a high authority title needs to get in front of a camera and start cleaning up this mess.

[civic tundra]

It's 5pm in Cali, workday is already over. Nothing is getting done today + OH just clocked out, so our voice has been officially muted til tomorrow

[marsh tide]

My feedback is simple always fun when your the windshield and not the bug splatting on it I consistently say if you want the experience of pvp in STFC just hop on a moped and play chicken with coal trains

[icy patio]

I have trillions of isk in eve online and feel less for it than i do stfc, even with current circumstances

[dire warren]

People who are quitting and uninstalling, right now, tonight, they're not gonna read up on updates.

[slim shoal]

Players looking to win the gorn slb on our server are already starting to realize the only place they'll find people to kill, are systems with events or regular loops (new gorn systems, xindi systems, freebooters, etc.) This will literally stop people from completing dailies and PvE loops.

They'll need to do something fairly quickly. It won't change today, and tomorrow is unlikely as well... but global pvp all week is just a really, really dumb idea. 😆

[vital sequoia]

I am aware, but if enough of the player base is angry, quitting or gonna stop spending money, that’s a crisis and you get a group to start fixing it before it gets worse.

[olive summit]

I mean all they had to do was do it like previous pvp events and make it 1 or 2 systems only. But nope gotta milk war and chaos 😡 spending

[kind minnow]

then they are dumb. organized pvp is the fastest way to score

[vast nest]

Just trade a Feesha's cargo hold of CLat around some Talios and wham bam everyone is done

[fallow widget]

so to change the drama up.. i really dislike the faction store now, i can't tell how much things cost, or whether i can afford them w/o doing 1 click to look in, and 1 to leave...

[rugged shore]

It's fairly simple.. find an ally

[lime pagoda]

Time to cut way back. Game not better. Money grab

[mystic maple]

They gotta figure something out quick. We've already lost players due to this change.

[upbeat jungle]

I thought a previous goal was to reduce the amount of time in game per day to complete goals. Now we need an extra click on EVERYTHING just to see what is there. That was a really bad move. Just like having a claim all button only after you get to a specific ops level. Where is the reasoning in this? Just make the game more user friendly.

[subtle orbit]

Game has shown several glitches since upgrade last night

[foggy gust]

they don't care if they lose players. they care if they lose whales. a guy gives $1000 another gives $100,000. guy who spent 1000$ wants less pvp. guy who spent $100,000 wants more pvp. who wins? how many salaries does 100,000 pay?

[slim shoal]

Not everyone is good at making friends... still others take the opportunity to grief because now they can (its an event!)... and yes, some won't even think of trading kills.

Incursions have been around for over a year (two years?) and still we have a hard time getting half the server to shield or understand what's going on. So yes, the smarter/more aware/more active players will find an ally/friend and trade kills over and over. There will be plenty that will just go for world pvp wherever they can find ships.

[runic patrol]

@slim shoal incursion would go better if they announced it more

[sharp scroll]

only the first day the quit game rate in our ally (90) is 10%

[woeful rain]

That wasn't feedback. That was blaming people that had nothing to do with the problem and offered 0 solutions. It's ok though. Most of these comments get ignored anyway

[mystic maple]

@foggy gust I get that but regular players spend money to and it adds up. This was a dramatic change. There has to be another option for everyone.

[willow patrol]

@tidal notch a few more things to add to the list if no one has mentioned them yet. Demarcation Line SMS is EXTREMELY difficult to complete due to PvP. Also rep grinding is literally impossible in this environment.

[opal crane]

There's a pack for that 😄

[olive summit]

Only if other alliances in ur server dont accuse you of “cheating” for slb/alb and declare war over it 😢

[runic patrol]

@woeful rain that's what feedback lol and pay me and I'll think something up

[kind minnow]

everyone wants to score. u both benefit. how can someone say no to that

[foggy gust]

They don't care about "low pay / no pay" players. but, because they don't, the game will run out of money far more quickly, and without projection. Whales will only chase the rising bar so far until they stop. We've had a few of our whales stop after the last bar raise. The only way they could make this game actually long term enduring is to design the shop and gameplay for low pay / no pay because those low pay no pay DO get money from time to time, and if they can enjoy a game, they'll pay when they can, and that can end up being FAR more than a few whales on a server. most tech salaries are around $100k so my point was that the whale only paid at most one or two salaries for a year, and that could be the end of it for him. they're not going to find NEW whales very often because there's market awareness building for what kind of "game" this is.

[dire warren]

Because it lacks the unique spice given by the tears of the innocent.

[leaden sierra]

buddy, I know you're in a rough spot having to be the line between command and your customers. I just do not understand how customer respondes get neglected so hard with the amount of customer reviews you do. I'm a process manager myself, and i don't understand how customer responds get neglected as hard as Scopely does. They should be the steering wheel, the key to further success, and I genuinely feel it's being treated as a nuisance, because command just wants the whales and noone else. They will end up with a game with 60 people per server. Which is fair enough, but my alliance is about to fold, and i really doubt that's the best financial decision going forward. I really do hope your voice is getting heard, my support is behind you.

[leaden umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/violin-tiny-cute-gif-15898508

[woeful rain]

You need to look up the definitions of feedback and complaint. They are very different

[icy patio]

not all feedback are complaints, all complaints are feedback...

[runic patrol]

☝️☝️@woeful rain

[foggy gust]

they could fix this easily. have base shield cover ships also, so that while they shield is up, those ships can do pve stuff just not pvp. won't happen though because the whales wanna destroy things with the power they paid for.

[woeful rain]

<@&509690795536941056> let the arc runner know that the idea of the event was good, but the execution was terrible. All this caused was the top alliance in most servers to get a weaker alliance to spam their ships. There's no competition or real pvp in that. The arc runner seems to like klingon.... tell him these alliances have no honor

[leaden umbra]

Its a wargame folks, PVP will forever be apart of it, if you don't like it I'm sure Farmville is taking new players.

[rugged shore]

I've actually had equal strength folks going at it

[gritty viper]

Your opinion is vastly outnumbered here. This will wreck Scopely. Whatcha gonna do when empty servers come for youuuuu

[candid inlet]

users "how can they mess up the game more?" Scopely "hold my beer!"

[latent hawk]

Why is every single thing hidden behind another screen now? Defiant claim? have to click thru, Bajoran favors? Can't see the cost click in, ex-borg favors, can't see the cost have to click thru... you made this game so much worse with NO benefit!!!!!!!!!

[woeful nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-club-rules-dont-talk-dont-talk-about-fight-club-brad-pitt-gif-6144996

[woeful rain]

Not us. They find the loopholes and win "by any means necessary". They don't actually play the game the way it was intended. I'm jumping off for the night because this slowmode is ridiculous

[leaden umbra]

You'll still be playing just like me. Oh no the game is dying, players are quitting, THE END IS HERE. Just like its been everyday players make the same complaints 24/7/365. Its just another day that ends in Y around here.

[gritty viper]

No, I just deleted my game dude. It's over for me. I got Frostpunk Fallout 4 Dragon's Dogma 2 and a bunch more wanting my time.

[oak hawk]

This is what Scopley believes the game should be like ... they view it as a War game, not a 4X ... that's part of why the exploration aspect of a 4X fails so badly.

They are getting what they wanted all along.

[willow patrol]

So the Farmville thing is beyond ridiculous. If this was a PvP game, it would be possible to PvP. There is no actual PvP in this game because of the insane imbalances. Actual PvP games allow for competition.

[eager mantle]

no it's a PVE game with PVP elements. You want a wargame? Go play Call of Duty or something like that

[foggy gust]

you can shove the farmville crp up your A55 there buddy. I'm playing Callisto Protocol. Phone gamer talking big is HILARIOUS. Try Apex, a real pvp game, and get back to me. For that matter, League of Legends would probably melt your brain. oh but you'd have to buy a gaming pc for that ... what is this cash grab rated anyways? M for Mommy's Credit Card?

[leaden umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[true zealot]

If you quit...why still hang on discord? Just go

[runic patrol]

@leaden umbra go play DayZ see how quickly you dislike pvp

[gritty viper]

Good luck playing a server with no players dude.

[foggy gust]

you're a chatbot. say the exact same thing against anyone who doesn't like the changes lol. what a punk. Scopely schillbot.

[leaden umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/ferris-bueller-gif-18271067

[gritty viper]

Hey now kinda harsh toward chatbots don't you think?

[humble sable]

This multiple click thing for the factions now has everyone joking they are using it as an opportunity for memorization excerises on how much everything costs...I mean come on...now it will probably take me 60min a day just to claim everything and spend currency since I now need to build a spreadsheet so I know what costs are

[marsh tide]

Scopely continues to focus on top tier players while neglecting or downright alienating lower players what incentive is there for growth so what happens when mid tier quit new players are so alienated and neglected what is the business plan for continued profit? Seems more like deliberate destruction

[kind minnow]

if they exchange kills at an even rate with realtas blowing up on a tiny bit bigger ship and vica versa both sides would score pretty well too;p u can control who becomes first and both get something out of it

[last nest]

you should ignore those types they are angry at life so they project tough guy acts in video games 🤣

[woeful rain]

No. It's 1 player with a 10 bil cube telling others to hit his ship. It's so ridiculously ludicrous

[gritty viper]

we had one earlier going on about "crying like a woman". machisimo and misogyny going hand in hand.

[brisk ocean]

If you can have variable scoring

Then apply tighter bracketing like the SLB

For kills

• 1 thru 3 ops levels gives the most points

-4 thru 6 ops gives less

-7 or greater ops levels in difference gives the least points

[foggy gust]

1-3 gives points. anything out side that gives zero points, and instead detracts from your score if you're overpowered going for lowbies. (won't happen, but definitely better for the playerbase)

[vital sequoia]

-7 or greater gives negative points would be better.
It’ll never happen but we can still dream.

[gritty viper]

That kind of update might generate enough bugs to make a biohazard disaster movie!

[thick swallow]

This is a PVP/PVE game it has elements of both and is a game of both It’s meant to be both so as to draw a more disperse crowd. Players that enjoy mining. Players that enjoy PvP. Players that enjoy pve. Or a mixture Game has PvP labeled with everything. You leave your station you can be hit in PvP, anywhere you do pve/mining Sure they could do some things a little better but this arc is better than last few arcs and it’s nice having something different than constant new hostile grinds/mining grinds. Also using buffs/debuffs you can hit players above you a limited number of times per day

[grizzled dagger]

They have killed the game for alot of players and anyone new good luck your not going anywhere. This pvp thing is so unbalanced it now makes the game unplayable so have fun

[rose island]

Keeping ships in base only improves the game🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[true zealot]

They fixed the server lag!

[foggy gust]

LOL

[bold marlin]

Always a silver lining if you look for it…

[thick swallow]

Also strike teams affect the whales from just running speed crews or such, also proof the buffs/debuffs can allow you to hit up

[wary spoke]

Instead of collect in faction stores you can hit view then collect. Times 100. Great. Who does this stuff?

[foggy gust]

you notice that's 58 to 66 right? and requires specific expensive crew? not to mention the price of that sompek. how many tens of thousands did you spend for that?

[plain smelt]

I'm F2P and am one ops from my Quv. Just been at it a long time.

[nova sierra]

9 levels of difference. PvP evens out in g5. Becomes more crew based than just “omg I have the biggest ship” for a much broader segment.

[thick swallow]

I didn’t spend anything on it really. Maybe $200 if you count mats (from packs I bought for other things) I bought the ship with faction credits Mariner st could’ve won too and it was obtainable for a $20 battle pass Also it goes to show I fought a guy 8 ops higher With the talk of people hitting 7+ ops down. It’s not as easy to win sure. But it can be done. I’ve even won against 1.5b lvl 60 ships with strike team pvp crew with that same ship

[foggy gust]

specific crew at specific level required for that. That's what we call a gearcheck in mmorpgs. how much time have you put into the game? and @plain smelt I've got a few level 61+ in my alliance, and they can't do squat against the whale 67 with the 10bil borg cube, not even with the right crew. I come from Path of Exile, a game wth a very in depth passive skill tree system and gearset system, so the crew stuff is easy cake for me, and I'd say generally anyone over level 40 probably has a pretty strong grasp of it. Primes play a good part of that too, as does normal research. If a level 66 could only go DOWN as far as a 58, then that would be closer to an even playing field, but imo still not quite there. I'm definitely curious how many years you've put into the game, and how many hours you play a day.

[thick swallow]

I’ve only been playing like 3 years and my total spent on game is definitely less than $10k total. Those crews weren’t that hard to get. Currently I would say 3 hours a day or so. But I do all the hostile grinds. When I used to farm rep I spent more time

[icy patio]

right now you can't grind three hours

[plain smelt]

I've been playing 3.5 years and only do $20 BPs.

[thick swallow]

Considering I have mantis, Cerritos, voyager, amalgam, Talios, Franklin a maxed. It doesn’t take that long with the ones that are left I also have bajoran rep maxed, and eclipse maxed

[foggy gust]

how many hours a day? @plain smelt @thick swallow

[nova sierra]

Fight Club is when two opponents elect to step into the ring and duke it out. This War Room is not Fight Club. The War Room is unrelenting murder of innocent players that did not elect to participate. The alternative is to quit the game at least until Scopely finds a way to make the game fun again.

[willow patrol]

What buffs should I use to help my Enterprise beat the Northcutt that stomped me?

[plain smelt]

Of actual gameplay? A couple probably. I detest grinding, though I do it on rare occasion. I typically do the events of the day and my dailies. More time spent per day doesn't account for growth as much as doing the minimum consistently.

[thick swallow]

The most buffs/debuffs you could do is venom, Cerritos and Titan and exo comp

[willow patrol]

Sure, but that would have accomplished nothing.

[dapper carbon]

Time to Uninstaller and reinstall game, clearing localization doesn't clear it.

[rich vector]

scoeply may delete my feedback on war room, but they'll read the msg!

[sacred garden]

Scopley you want more people doing pvp yet you seem unwilling to make pvp more fair. Pvp should be fair and fun , your current pvp isn’t fun since the whales bully the Minos . Your pvp is like putting a professional basketball ball team against a fifth grader team with professional baskets

[molten wyvern]

I guess the whole 1 server transfer only and if you're above lvl 12 you can never leave your server is probably the dumbest thing i've seen in a long time in a multiplayer game , people should always have the option to leave toxic servers and just let the toxic players stay among them self.

[crimson stream]

So far I don't see any way to see a leaderboard for alliance war chest contributions. Is that planned?
@tidal notch

[winged imp]

This PvP is BS . Bet it’s fun for the higher level players sucks for everyone else tho. 👍🏽

[tulip willow]

How can every update break the game so bad?

[rich vector]

your game sucks!

[red hatch]

The addition of the War Room to force PVP is horrible. It has been a very negative experience for all players just trying to do missions and dailies. There should be dedicated systems for players to choose whether or not to PVP just like incursions.

[leaden umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-virtual-reality-oculus-gif-5676539

[woeful nymph]

They could easily do bracketed systems, then use Tola for free for all systems. It's close to Territory space and has no value otherwise

[crimson stream]

Our server basically has alliances step up and offer one of their own territories for pvp. Sad that we have to create work arounds for Scopely nonsense.

More complicated ROE incoming.

[icy patio]

complicated roe = signs of civilization...

[woven plover]

or fix the freakin pvp bands to be like +- 3 ops levels. when a 64 with a 1 billion ship can gank a 49 with a 40m ship before as they enter the system, it isn't pvp. I don't think a 49 can hit a 35. make the bigs fight in their own weight class.

[slate orbit]

What you talking about a 70 can hit a 43... that's so competitive. *** bleeding sarcasm ***

[woven plover]

I think scopely is trying to end stfc. they don't want to have to come up with 7* economy, so kill it off and move all the developers to monopoly go, where their real money is coming from.

[late raft]

I deleted now the game after playing more than a year. The new pvp way is not may way.

[molten wyvern]

All of their European customers would be eligible to do a complete bank chargeback for everything that happened within the last 180 days if they killed the game of , you purchased something you no longer have access to , thats why Scopely won't just do that. I guess some banks allow for a further range beyond 180 days , but i can do 6 months.

[civic tundra]

All of scopleys open jobs are mainly for monopoly and marvel. Conspiracy theory has started

[nimble pawn]

Which is why they’re making the game unplayable - if you quit and they shutter the game a year later, you get nothing. 😉

[tulip willow]

We cancelled ROE everywhere except Token space, it's been fun lol

[slate orbit]

Top Alliance
Just marked everyone enemy, no more roe... while at war roe does not count.

[woven plover]

The mission spots were being camped so people couldn't even complete the event to build the building.

[gritty viper]

lol people can't do anything at all in STFC and clowns be like "go play farmville if that's a problem for you". Gonna be funny when they all login and see nobody's playing.

[nimble pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/master-oogway-kung-fu-panda-inner-peace-gif-11501603

[remote furnace]

Scopely, I understand you want more PvP. I understand u want to encourage players to compete with each other more, spend resources, upgrade ships etc. etc.
BUT the most precious resource is people's TIME. PvP takes TIME. If you make events and War Rooms that pay out for PvP then people will just find faster/efficient ways to technically PvP - NOT the PvP you want.
There will be more ALTs, there will be more buddy agreements to mutually hit, the game will become more MIND-NUMBINGLY-BORING. Not the PvP excitement you are looking for.
On our server there is already an alliance of alts realta bombing ships to score points/complete war room requirements. So dumb.

[slate orbit]

Already some servers have been on here today saying there is no one to kill to do event. Everyone on server turtled and logged off.. that's one extreme...

[gritty viper]

vive la revolucion

[tame spade]

Was there a reason many faction store claims were put inside more menus for no reason other to make us go through more loading screens to open ONE thing in each?

For multiple sizes of claims in something I understand. But opening a menu when there is only one possible item to be there…

Rogue faction- directives, rep and credits.

Fed/Klingon/Romulan - Allegiance token claim.

Bajorans -Defiant claim, ablative amplifiers.

I could go on.
What was the reasoning behind more loading screens/more laggy screens to do something?

[molten wyvern]

Right I did just do some legal research though for me in Denmark, lets just say i got more than 6 months, way more , and this from our head consumer office in the country, not something i've done before personally but if someone screws me over or shuts down a game i played and paid for just like that and shutter their servers, according to my laws i'm entitled to a full refund, but im guessing even the European BBB has some of the same views as what my country does since we share the same laws.

[tulip willow]

We didn't change any alliance tags, so purples are still off limits cause we don't hit friends and allies.

[naive stream]

STFC is gonna look like Free City when the NPCs went on strike. The whales won't have anyone to hunt because the f2p will have moved on.

[vital sequoia]

That's been stated elsewhere to be a bug/glitch/devs don't let devs program drunk and should (hopefully be fixed sometime soonish)

[tropic crown]

@tidal notch yeah trying to do dailies is a nightmare now thanks to forced pvp. War room is forced PVP because I just doing my dailies and can’t without getting nuked by some 15 ops higher than me. Not all of us want to be content for Whales.

[molten dew]

Can you find that statement? Where was that said?

[grim helm]

I have to be honest, this is the kind of move that ends games...

[gritty viper]

"br0 just go play farmville." Everyone goes and plays farmville. "Where are the players for me to hit?!!!"

[slate orbit]

It was said by two different CMs today, it was a unexpected result, but not sure how fast the fix would be in. It's in 1 or 2 chat channels

[tulip willow]

I had zero issue with doing my dailies. Not sure what dailies you had problem with.

[tame spade]

Then you haven’t had lvl 50+ players nailing you out of nowhere just for trying to hunt reds for dailies or missions. (I’m 42)

They’ve been camping mission systems, popular reds/hostiles hunting systems and augment space for grudge/xp grinders.

I guess you have a peaceful server….

Some of us have been lucky to get anything done.

[tulip willow]

No I have, died plenty of times but I also killed plenty of people. Still had Zero issues with completing my dailies.

[tropic crown]

Lucky you that you were not forced to be someone else’s content.

[vocal hill]

The cancelation of RoE for these PvP events is literally our RoE.

[gritty viper]

your server probably decided on sticking with ROE. My server is trying to get us back, I'm being SPAMMED with friends' emails about the alliances talking about that as a response to this. It would be an absolute hilarious turn of events if that happened. This is going to be far more humiliating for Scopely than all the mountains of people who disappear instead of playing Incursions.

[tulip willow]

I was forced like 30 times today, only difference is I can tell this is a game and to not let my feelings get involved.

[devout marten]

I can't believe how far out of touch Scopely is with it's player base

[jovial patrol]

I am parking until Thursday and then decide if it's time to dump this game

[slate orbit]

It would be fine if you could still play the game, but 59s,60s,61s camping mission or event systems and just killing everything kinda makes the game unplayable for some.

[mental cloud]

Northstars are making a comeback! Just use miners for everything

[tulip willow]

No we cancelled ROE for the most part, like most PVP events.

[harsh oriole]

PVP should be set to a specific system NOT all over the entire game. those that want pvp will go. those that don't will stay out of the system. easy pezy. not so many mad people then.

[mental cloud]

My only issue with that is either you can't score cause a higher person is always there you can't beat, or no one is there at all and you sit there looking at a blank system for hours waiting to score pts

[devout marten]

miners count towards war room chest so they aren't safe either

[viscid hill]

War room stuff finished in less then 12 hours. Lol, scopely and their idea of pvp. Organized realta fights and finished the event really early. Ghost ships still a problem, totally not fixed. Watched as several ghost ships blinked onto the screen while sitting in home system.

[hot prawn]

How about bringing some parity to the game? It's completely pointless to have players 20+ ops levels higher and billions more power dominate the server for mid level players. Limit the upper range the same way a level 40 can't hit a level 20.

[mild cobalt]

You are npc grindable content for whales, nothing more. This has always been the case, the new content is just making it more obvious as it brings it more to the forefront.

[uneven quarry]

The new update now has us double clicking chests etc in faction stores in order to claim/buy them. Very time consuming

[open spire]

You can see cloaked ships little green arrows

[gritty viper]

It should mean something to you that your POV is in the vast minority. It'll hit you when you log in and the server is a whole lot quieter. This isn't just about you. Update - confirmed by my alliance, most of our server is doing Realtas rather than saying byebye to normal ROE.

[forest zealot]

The new prime researches make it even more obvious. More damage against players is okay, but multiple different defense boosts that don't apply when DEFENDING A STATION and a complete annulation of the hull breach crit bonus? Looks like someone complained it was too hard cracking bases. Also the new skin for the voyager apparently tells you when their shield will run out.

[pale garnet]

you need to return all the faction chests back to showing how much cost for each, it's a pain and time waster trying to find the right chests to collect

[nova sierra]

Is anyone else enjoying how badly Scopely just f'd up this game, and just sitting back and enjoying the fallout? 🤣

Holy cow, are they going to stick to this, or backpedal? Either way, it's going to be a great source of amusement! 🤣

[tulip willow]

I'm more upset how bad the game runs, never seen so many ghosts.

[normal ravine]

F'd it up how?

They finally, after 5.5 years made PvP a legitimate part of a space war game beyond griefing and OPC hunting.

This is Space War, not Space Minecraft. They significantly improved the game while settling countless hours of stupid and pointless RoE debates.

[nova sierra]

Don’t listen to them Scopely, you made the game perfect!

[leaden umbra]

Why would we listen to people who uninstalled and quit the game?
<@&509691205798592532>

[gritty viper]

Because a LOT of people are uninstalling and quitting and that's damaging Scopely's bottom line, that's why. Good luck having the mods ban people from leaving.

[nova sierra]

Look at the comments here. Most people don't want this. They're going to ruin this game, close it down, and leave people looking foolish when they spent so much money on a game that no longer exists. 🤣

[wise notch]

What was the reason for the, sorry, stupid decission to hide all costs in the Faction stores behind a "View" button?
It already takes me well over 10 minutes each day I have to klick through all the refinery options, faction shop options etc just to collect and buy the stuff that comes along once a day. Now I have to click View to see before I can purchase an item in the faction shop or not.
Take the ExBorg shop. There I e.g. want to save rare and epic credits for specific favours, but want to use up the uncommon ones, if possible, for the research daily. Before, I saw how many credits I have on the top and could see directly which favour needed which type of credit and wether or not I had enough to purchase. Now I have to click View on dozens of favour to check a) the type of credits the current level of favour requires and b) wether or not I got enough to purchase.
Why introduce a feature that reduces QoL instead of improving it ?

[normal ravine]

Yeah, but also avoids misclicking and spending currency unintentionally. It's less time consuming than opening a ticket and asking for a refund from a misclick.

[shrewd helm]

Scopely can shove this last update and arc up a donkeys ....

[tame spade]

Any war still requires resources. Without resources you can’t have said war in the first place.

Frustrating ppl as they try to get said resources through dailies and missions but get attacked constantly without end will make them leave.

With no fish or dolphins to feed on, the whales will starve. Then they will feed on each other as player numbers will drop and eventually even the try hardiest of whales will get tired of having no one smaller to feed on.

[teal harness]

The game is getting more and more twitchy. Could you please JUST FIX THE BUGS before you roll out more bug laden garbage cash grab updates. We already lost 2 alliance members to the newest update. They couldn’t take it anymore.

[wise notch]

If it was meant to avoid "misclicks", how about having to verify that you want to really purchase instead of hiding the info.
First and foremost, I want info what I can and cannot dot. Most folks don't go about and purchase stuff 100 times a day !
If the red pips would at least work it might be acceptable, but seeing a just a list of 100 (exaggerated) options, all hidden behind a "View" without you knowing what you can or cannot do doesn't help at all !

[normal ravine]

This is the game as it should have always been. It'll take some adjustment for some and that's ok.

If some people quit, that's ok too. Maybe if some of you high spenders stop buying $100 packs like they're $.25 candies then the prices will adjust accordingly.

In the meantime, pew pew.

[icy flint]

On my server This PVP event is just allowing the top alliance to literally Bully the entire seever and there is nothing the other severs can do about it.

[tame spade]

I can count the number of packs over $20 I’ve gotten on a couple fingers over 5 years.

95% of the time it’s not worth it.

[teal harness]

You don’t understand trek if you think trek should be a space war game.

[leaden umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/war-starships-star-trek-dominion-gif-11195273

[vale wasp]

It was an unintended change. It will be fixed.

[quick summit]

Wow scopely, now you are really ruining this game with pvp all over the galaxy all the time.

[tame spade]

Star Trek has always been:

TNG- Space... The final frontier...
These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise.
Its continuing mission:
To explore strange new worlds...
To seek out new life; new civilisations...
To boldly go where no one has gone before!

TOS-
Space:
The final frontier.

These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise.

Its 5-year mission:
To explore strange new worlds,
To seek out new life and new civilizations,
To boldly go where no man has gone before.

It’s about exploring ourselves and the universe/multiverse around us, not just “pew pew let’s turn into Star Wars pew pew!”

Yes that kind of thing happens, but it’s not the only facet of it. Making it only that takes away something.

[forest zealot]

Violence was always a last resort in Trek, huge battles were only after every other approach had failed, at least in the early shows, haven't watched much after Discovery started.

[vital sequoia]

Look, one of the things I've heard a lot from PvP players is they want more PvP. Honestly, i have no problem with that, PvP players should get to have fun just like PvE players. But they usually ignore a couple of important points.

1. You can have more PvP, BUT LEAVE ME OUT OF IT. Have it be PvP between PvP players who opt in to an event or are doing their thing in a set of systems or a specific region. I'll steer clear, you have your fun, I have mine and both can be happy.
2. The current PvP setup is a broken at best. It's not PvP when a level 55+ hits a level 44. That's the 2nd grade bully grabbing your arm, punching you with it and saying "Stop hitting yourself." So the PvP structure needs work and the PvP community needs to be better about fair fights.
3. A lot of PvE players don't have the time to get hit within 20 seconds of entering a system, repair, send back, get hit again, to do dailies/faction grinding/etc.
4. PvP is fun for some people, not others. There should be room for everyone to have fun in this game and PvE players shouldn't have to work harder to play just to make a PvP player smile when they hit a 10 mil Kelvin with their 450 mil Rotarran.

[quick summit]

This will make a lot players quit gaming if you don't limit this to some area where pvp players can go cause small players will be beaten up all the time by the whales.

[normal ravine]

You don't understand trek if you think it's all mining and exploring.

Klingons are a thing. So are Romulans. The best movies and episodes feature ship to ship combat.

Squaring off against other players was always an advertised feature of the game. Scopely just finally incentivized it beyond the chance to pirate unprotected cargo or just to be a jerk to other players.

PvP is a part of the game. Adapt and overcome. Or don't and go play Minecraft

[icy patio]

you don't understand the game if you think you can overcome a level 62 kicking a level 43... I have over 850 credit score and amex with 'no limit' and i still don't think i could climb high enough fast enough

[placid birch]

And you don't understand Trek if you think it is all pew pew. Klingons made peace with the Federation. I believe Romulans did too. And no PVE player is asking for "no pvp" we are asking for "a proper way to do it" (which this is not). This system forces pvp on everyone (there is no way to opt out short of not playing, unlike pve events where is you don't want to mine, you don't and no one can force you)

[quick summit]

That answer clearly can only come from a whale that's among the top scorers.

[teal harness]

You are still being a jerk to other players it is just scopley is giving advantages to being a jerk because they think it will make them more money by forcing causal players or buy pack to compete. What will happen is the casual players will drop out and the whales will starve and the game will die quicker than it already is. You don’t hear about them opening new servers do you only merging servers do to failure

[normal ravine]

The ALB doesn't score on active miners or base raids. Idk what else you could possibly want for a "proper way".

PvP isn't just about who's got the biggest ship. A lot of people crying about whales clearly don't get that. It's very possible to punch up.

Triangle, officers, and research are all key elements and some of these whales that just indiscriminately swipe and push buttons don't always pay attention to those things.

Learn the crews, prioritize your research, get good and don't be a scrub.

In the end, it's all just pixels anyway. Who cares if they blow up? Repair and go back out there and do it again.

[warped vault]

Thanks for removing... the little eye icon that let me view the materials I had for anything in the faction store.. Xindi... Dominion Credits in a time-saving manner.. Super helpful taking away something Super useful and forcing me to scroll thru the mess of an Inventory system with all these currency's we have now... THANKS A TON.... jerks.

[clever tiger]

Wow great advice. Even with all of that i can't beat a 2b ship with a 100 mil one

[tame spade]

Then pvp needs tighter constraints on who can hit who… how the crap is this fair? (Im the 42. This is from me trying earlier)

I deleted my prior example of this because it wouldn’t let me fix, edit or change a screenshot without deleting the whole message.

[grim helm]

Simple fix to the PVP. Narrow the bands to 5 above, 5 below. A bandwidth of 10 ops levels.

[radiant island]

And you will NEVER understand. You want it your way. We want it a way where everyone can be happy. I crew fine. While they matter, they only matter to a point. "get good" (ie, spend money and play like me!). Yes it is just pixels. Why are you so determined that your way is right. It is just pixels, lets have a real pvp system and play to have fun for everyone, not just you. Or are you affraid of a real pvp system where it is fair and you can't punch down? Or maybe you are affraid of only being able to face people who can compete with you. How about you "get good" and pvp those who compete

[native burrow]

This is total chaos. The big ships shoot. The smaller ones rep or stay home. No fun only frustration.

[normal ravine]

I'm a 39 in a server population with majority mid-40s to low-50s. I'm not a whale and I'm not punching down.

I'm still having fun.

Get good or go play Minecraft

[icy flint]

any idea on how to over come the top with out a credit card

[vital sequoia]

A deal with the devil?

[limpid sluice]

Unfortunately scopely protected whales in a number of ways, from limiting the burning damage so masses of small ships can't take down the hull of a larger ship, to nerfing the borg cube beam pvp..... all the other ways you can fight up are very limited.

[tame spade]

Win the Powerball?

[storm ice]

Artifact error

[scenic dock]

we've got people camping the spawn points for the new missions to ambush players trying to complete the mission, with ships at least 10 ops levels higher to unlock than the players they are ambushing. We've got people camping swarm space that's well lower than what they would need, to kill players arriving to do dailys.

[carmine charm]

yeah this arc and its design are open season to griefing other players while the sensible path for the pvp events are to trade realta kills

[nova sierra]

No, you are the one who doesn't understand. Star Trek isn't "war all the time, everywhere" . Even when it is war, it is war on battlefronts that make sense, and what Scoplely has done makes no sense. There are borders, there are violations of those borders, and there are consequences associated with violating those borders. Same as any Terran-based war without space travel.

If you want an all out, kill everyone, no conscience game, go find one. There's plenty out there. Maybe you've played some of the ones that died with that concept, and there are many.

This game seemed to be PvE, but PvP when you want it to be. At least it was when I first started. It was fun, and it was not very complicated. Now it is overly complicated and becoming much more PvP centric.

I can't wait until they shut the servers down because even the whales aren't enough to keep it profitable. 🤣

[normal ravine]

I did find one. It's this one. I'm having a great time 😁😁😁

[marsh musk]

We need tighter level pvp brackets. I am level 41 and with the current event i constantly get shot down by level 50+ players. This is no fun and i can't do anything. Can't grind, can't mine, can't do events or dailies.
Game is unplayable right now due to the event encouraging high level players to shoot low level players. (My ships have power 10M to 15M, how should i beat ships with power 200M to 300M?)

[icy flint]

the should have released a PVE Survey ship this arc AKA North Star 5.0

[carmine charm]

If you think G6 players farming G4 players who can't even reach the G6 players base, mine,....is the apex of game design you may want to play a bully simulator instead

[nova sierra]

Oh, so am I! Probably for different reasons though. This game is burning down, and it gives me great enjoyment to watch it! 🍻

[radiant island]

Glad you have fun. I do to, when pvp is proper or when I just want to do some missions in peace. It isn't all one or the other. I don't when upper 60s kill me cause they can. I would quite enjoy pvp if it was actually balanced pvp. I would quite enjoy a system where skill mattered more than a CC, but that wouldn't make the whales happy. So I'm looking for a balance. Give me (and you) a place to pvp when I want to and a place to pve when I don't want to pvp. It isn't a complicated thing to ask for and would allow everyone to have fun, not just you. We have had to deal with rogues who kill all the time and as with this I will figure out how to deal with it too, but that doesn't mean this is the right way - and this doesn't mean I just give up. I will adapt just like I have to everything else Scopely has done.

And it is clear that you don't really have anything since your big answer is "go play minecraft" and "get good" like a broken record. What would be so wrong with a balance between the 2? Why are you so opposed to others having the ability to enjoy this game just like you claim to?

So I will be done wasting my time on you and hope that Scopely can figure out making more people happy makes more money and that they will find a way to keep you happy as a pvper and those that are not pvpers happy as well. Cause that is what most of os want - and probably Scopely too, as this is the path to make them the most money, more happy players. Keep more people happy so the game is great for a variety of people and not just some.

[vital sequoia]

Something that needs to be said more about the problems with PvP in this game is: It's the games most selfish mechanic.

Mining doesn't interfere with Mantis grinding
Hunting Borg probes doesn't interfere with Solo Armadas
Dual Faction grinding doesn't interfere with Territory Capture.

PvP interferes with all of the above and even more. That's why it needs to be well structured and well balanced. And we don't have that now, we need it for something like the War Room to be viable.

[violet nymph]

Oh, sooo great. Left my base today to do some daily Freebooters and got shot by a whale the moment I entered the System. Awesome scopely, worst event and worst arc so far in the game.

[brittle veldt]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
We DID NOT ask for this QOL improvements, we never said touch this thing
don't even touch anything other than your new game breaking toys, leave old stuff the way they are 🤦🤣

[tame dove]

Just came back from a break to deal with real life stuff...this new arc is anti-fun...These new hostiles are so poorly designed, it's just pathetic.
Hostile that you can't kill unless you have been grinding a new mechanic for the last half year. = POOR DESIGN CHOICE

[stable raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-folks-folks-folka-gif-27352342

[errant saddle]

The previous hostiles we can’t kill at all, there’s improvement this time 🤣

[tame dove]

Honestly didn't have too many problems with the Silent hostiles. They were challenging for sure, but made think about how to crew. These Gorn just feel like they are designed without any kind of realistic testing...like it's not uncommon for people to take breaks from this game and come back. Designing something that punishes people for that is incredibly poor design, and evidence of just not caring or considering how the playerbase engages with the game.

[gusty fractal]

kill, kill, kill and kill again. then kill them all again. you have to eat something healthy, drink water and kill, kill, kill and kill again. then kill them all again.

[nova sierra]

One thing that has always bothered me with this game is that we have clearly defined faction zones, but no neutral zones. Neutral zones would be the perfect place to have things like farming and PvP. The developers built a map, and that messed it up from the beginning. Create neutral zones, where PvP can be a choice for those who want it.

It's like incursions. Find and make friends, agree to combat where it's profitable for both, and work together to finish events. Take some wins and losses, everyone is happy. 🙂

[vocal pollen]

You have the SLOWEST user interface in the whole gaming industry. PLEASE do not tell me that you seriously added an additional button press for EVERYTHING in the Faction Store. This is another minute I have to waste EVERY DAY just to wait for your horribly slow interface transitions (via this unnecessary black „Star Trek“ screen).

[young saddle]

Would it be possible to add a way to see what status another alliance has set for yours? Currently there is no way to tell whether another alliance has marked you as enemy (or friend, etc) unless they decide to tell you

[brazen patrol]

mark a friendly alliance with Enemy, realta spam eachother for 100 hours
This event isn't about money, it just invites players cheesing the leaderboard

[nova sierra]

It's so weird, because this just like my job, I work in IT. The users want X, the bosses want Y, but I give them Z. Not everyone gets what they want, but they're all happy with the result.

The trick is, you don't give either one what they want, you give them both what they need.

[icy flint]

oh were doing that but IA which is totally not invited keeps finding us lol