💬-general-feedback

[surreal mica]

Non-technical people don't see fixing bugs as a path to increasing the bottom line. To them it's a double hit: paying people to not make money, not paying people to make money. Yes, those are two different things.

[silk condor]

<@&509691205798592532> why is my phone going nuts with almost 100 armada notifications in less than a minute?

[harsh shard]

Because they want you to be aware that there are 100 armadas going on in one minute. Thought that was obvious 🤣😂

[silk condor]

I figured we'd have better luck telling these guys than going through the service chat. 🤷‍♂️

[exotic bison]

Check your wifi, its probably broken 😉😂

[surreal mica]

So... we're just going to ignore my request? Y'all know that stfc.space uses data collected from a post-login endpoint in violation of TOS, right? And the STFC Officer Tool (whose creators have the Content Creator role) also makes use of post-login data and algorithms, in violation of TOS. Battle log parsers violate TOS because they've reverse-engineered a data format. It seems that Scopely's offical™ non-official™ position is that TOS does not apply to things/people deemed useful/beneficial. I'm trying to get that determination before moving forward.

[crude sandal]

Stfc.space is owned by scopely now, so not a good example there.

You're probably best off DMing eco or bek, or talking through with one of the existing CCs to get the right sort of traction, rather than having a gentle strop that nobody personally contacted you after three? whole hours.

AFAIK, all these tools were developed outside of contract initially before scopely saw the benefit and brought those people into the CC program to officialise them? Definitely worth talking it through with some of the CCs to find out how they went about it in the first instance I'd think?

[surreal mica]

I posted yesterday as well. Discord may have been burning, but I think we all know whose fault that was.

[crude sandal]

When discord was burning 😬

Now it's merely smouldering 😅

[surreal mica]

"...owned by Scopely now". Which means it wasn't when it was created and was, at one point, in violation of TOS. It's not a bad example-- actually, it's the perfect example. But I'll reach out to Eco and Bek about joining the CC program.

[vapid goblet]

You could try work with or test out your idea with stfc.wtf
It seems their site already fetched all the info you are hoping to get

[crude sandal]

Think that's @thick osprey s project?

[crude sandal]

Built by ripper, who was already a cc from working with dj and the Lcars bot AFAIK

[thick osprey]

Ripper had an NDA before he was even with LCARS just saying, I have a Scopely stamp of approval for wtf, also happy to give access to an API you can query @surreal mica but I believe a bot already exists for what you're looking for

[surreal mica]

Messages would have to be delivered in-game as a sort of 2FA to connect a Discord account to an in-game account. Also, that data is VERY out of date. I assume all of the data and functionality exists in their backend, but people don't usually want to open their stuff to outsiders.

[crude sandal]

Honestly I'd get in touch with the CCs first who have worked on these things already to find out bout the hoops, not sure if the CC program is open for people with ideas but no product/production or not 👀

[crude sandal]

The oauth bit that spocks.club uses for sync would be the way to do it I think

Combined with discords api

[vapid goblet]

I think their in-game live data is somewhat out of date too.😂 the power leaderboards never sync with the server one.

Many moons ago I helped create plugins for elite EDMC, in terms of api access the support is great as well as speed.

[thick osprey]

Just send it and pray, that's what I did, I grab alliance data from a more accurate source, however I'm looking for ways to get more accurate PD/AR/RSS raided since Scopely are silly. @surreal mica send me a DM

[surreal mica]

I could have my stuff running in two days, but that'd be in violation of TOS. Which is what I'm trying to avoid. And asking someone to violate TOS to get to a point where they can sign an NDA and join the CC program is terrible advice.
And no, the OAuth stuff that spocks.club uses would not work. They're hijacking the OAuth redirect used by the game client to handle scopely.com logins. It requires an application to be running on the person's computer/mobile device. I looked at using WASM to do that, but it doesn't have a socket library. There's a proposal to add socket stuff, but that's a long way off. ActionScript has sockets, but Flash support in browsers in long-since gone. There's a Rust-based WASM project that brings it back, but without sockets in WASM...

[elder fossil]

MY BELIEF is Scopely did this on purpose by "saying" they will give use a "FREE" prime when in fact they knew they would be screwing a lot of people out of 1,200 dolamide because you lose 600 dolamide on each pack after activating the "FREE" primes from the Voyager training.``` @tacit obsidian @royal solar i don't know why i tag these two, they never do anything about it anyways

[tepid bramble]

And they also made it effectively impossible to finish the field training, so yeah, they knew what they were doing. 💯 meant to screw folks over.

[elder fossil]

This is true, i think we calculated that it will take over a year to get the second dolamide reward from the training

[final socket]

You must be a lot faster than me then. I estimated about 3 years. I'm at 11k/100k so far 🙄

[edgy harness]

Remember, the first level of those tiered primes isn’t 1200 dolamide, only 200 or so

[final socket]

Yes I'm well aware of that, and hardly relevant to my post

[tepid bramble]

The point he was making was to NOT use the dolamide you get from the first tier of the field training IF you intended to purchase the initial pacts. Because it screws you over.

[elder fossil]

👆💯 because if you buy the 1 thru 5 level packs you get 1,800 in each pack, as soon as you use the "free" dolomide for level 1 Scopely screws you and disables the pack for that research. Then you are forced to spend $100 on 1,200 dolamide @edgy harness

[harsh hawk]

Anyone have the new ship refinery screenshot?

[elder fossil]

You're right!! so just say we use 100 per day because max possible is 300 every 3 days i think so it will take 1,000 days to complete the second milestone. Absolute BS!

[elder fossil]

It's worthless, literally no incentive but they are around here somewhere

[burnt fossil]

No point on wasting money for it. To tier it up to t3 u need at least a few packs with it.

Rafinery at t1 its useless gives you 35bn steel, 5bn tritanium and matt wise pretty much garbage.

[young cliff]

Technically you can earn more from chests dropped by assimilator cubes in the borg coordinate systems, but that'd burn through a LOT of deuterium. Seems like you'd need a maxed Neelix for that to be feasable.

[elder fossil]

Yeah that's true but that could cut down the time by a third maybe? That's probably being generous.

[left surge]

the first rule for a game is that it is playable, not beautiful and changes every day.

[gentle goblet]

2 chests at ops 47... and 3 days cooldown, really scopely !? why is the payout the same from ops 40-50 ?? maybe at ops 40 that's useful for something, at 47 not really

[valid grove]

So, I just tried to do that one automated shipyard solo armada that we got free directives for.
Power would have been sufficient with cerri/defiant/titan - had it not been for the revenge hostiles who wiped the floor with my armada-crewed ships.
Revenge hostiles in a system where solo armadas exist is just, sorry for being so blunt, just plain. dumb.
Whenever I go for a solo armada I‘m crewed for armadas, not for hostiles.
Please turn off the revenge hostiles spawning for ships that are on their way to join or are participating in a solo armada.
One of my ships was even killed on its way to the armada because the revenge hostile spawned directly before it.
Thats not a fun challenge, thats just frustrating 🤬

[karmic bough]

Bro just freeze the hostiles

[valid grove]

Sure that works (didnt think about that beforehand, my bad 🙈), but still having to use a glitch to be able to properly access a game feature is… well, bad design

[cyan portal]

I'm sure its been said but jfc the territory capture alerts are insanity. Scared the cripes out of me while I was sleeping when my phone super alerted 50 times in a row

[leaden haven]

Well if that's not a reason to hold off on getting the ship I don't know what is, terrible rewards, looks like a slightly better Refinery payout (if you have maxed the bajoran research)

[gentle goblet]

the RSS is decent... (and properly bracketed, e.g. ops 46-47), they just need to bracket the mats the same way and lower the cooldown, we're limited by amount of directives anyway

[leaden haven]

If I wasn't already replete with a shed ton of resource tokens and not an occasional raider I'd be happy, but I have a lot in reserve so I'd be more interested in unc/rare mats. No epic mats at all?

[gentle goblet]

there is small chance for epic as well, and I need more parsteel than I have even in tokens to go for ops 50, but also lots of rare mats

[leaden haven]

I need rare like crazy at ops 49 so that 14% chance is a bit blurgh, doesn't seem worth the £100 for me, though I'm sure higher tiers means better/ higher pulls

[gentle goblet]

that's what you can get at T1, seem to get better at T2 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1goUEQ7wlAkNhQW0GLFK8YEVh5ph47J7pDLLclSBsy9Q/edit#gid=735169662

[weak grove]

lol?

[topaz bridge]

What's deep sleep? Uninstall!?

[elfin root]

Why in the hecking heck would you make the material chest for Mona refinery a 3 day cooldown 😢

[short iron]

going to bare minimum mode again men the game is crashing or slow almost always now

[ripe thicket]

I am not sure about other servers but ours has had a lot of people quit and or hardly playing at all. After the last couple lack luster arcs and more grinds added...it is too much. NO time to catch up needed grinds to lessen the play time. And this does nothing to lessen any grinds

[ionic heron]

In our sever someone who was level 39 quit. It's getting pretty bad.

[glad cradle]

Maybe so many quitting is why I'm seeing more TV commercials for STFC where I live. They might be getting desparate to get more whales to download the game.

[ionic heron]

Oh yeah I remember when we were watching PIC every time there was a commercial break you'd see an ad for it. It's a shame because the game definitely has potential. If only they would put some work into it, and make it a little less P2W, people wouldn't be leaving in droves.

[wild gate]

A bit lazy when they steal half the dialogue from “In the Pale Moonlight” for mission text. I like Easter eggs but really?.

[ionic heron]

Honestly I just skip through the dialogue in missions cuz I don't got time to listen to all that stuff lol

[lofty girder]

There patch notes said they fixed this.... then mining nodes became broken. I am sure there fix for mining being screwed up is removing there "Fix" for broken rounding.... seriously?!?!

[sterile atlas]

@tacit obsidian I was messaging with @vale wasp and they said to contact you. I need help with an issue. I sent you a message. Can you help?

[low horizon]

Tag ice

[shut tusk]

General feedback: fix your program!!!! Stop running events when the object of that event doesn’t work correctly. Ran a lvl50 formada and no one can start the 3rd leg - honestly it’s getting old

[woeful nymph]

Literally no sound on the youtube live stream

[white glacier]

Probably for the best TBH
It'll all be self-congratulatory BS, false promises and simping

[short iron]

iam so confused i thought game updates where there to fix the game.... or is it just for adding new content and nothing gets fixed it weeks already to game is wonky!

[kind star]

What's with the bs, scopely? In the Armada event you even get points if you only fly into the circle for a short time and then go out again. 3 *15k points are possible that way. Why don't you test your crap properly? What do we get as compensation? Honestly, getting a good place is not possible like that!

[loud pelican]

How and where do I get that new Ransom profile picture>

[nova sierra]

Why would they fix anything if people keeps purchasing 100€ packs as if there would not be any tomorrow?

[elder fossil]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar Still waiting for a reply on this#💬-general-feedback message

[kind star]

They must first discuss internally what half-truths and excuses they have presented to us this time. Scopely never admits or points out mistakes unless they are made obvious by us players.

[elder fossil]

This one seems blatantly obvious or else those 2 packs would not get disabled as soon as you use their "free" dolamide for level 1.

[willow hull]

Jesus God, can y’all fix the constant force closing of the game? My game has collapsed 6 times today, and it drives me nuts

[short iron]

going to bare minimum mode again omg the game is still unplayable.....what's next my electric power isn't green enough to run the scoply client code...

[kind star]

Above all, you can see how differentiated they can control the game. Of course, never in favour of the customers. We only get lies and excuses.

[spiral rose]

im having trouble playing the game i try to do anything it crashes and restarts i do anything

[burnt magnet]

So this is a 3 month celebration of your 5th anniversary. The first arc is the Crayola fantasy arc. I suspect next month is the Barney fantasy arc. The 3rd month to be the Teletubbies fantasy arc.

Are you running out of ideas or did someone think it was a great idea to have a kindergarten class design the new content.

How about something real like other companies do on an anniversary? Cut the cost of all packs in half and double the contents.

[ionic heron]

Why not have a SNW/LD crossover event?

[mild fulcrum]

Your username is a character from a cartoon and you whine about cartoons in a game?

[burnt magnet]

Except I have used this name in games long before that stupid movie came out.

[mild fulcrum]

Interesting! Meanwhile enjoy another spider: https://youtu.be/BzUej64o3LI?si=ZV4GwE9HtRcs2OYW

[tepid bramble]

Stupid movie?! What crack you smoking? Spider-Pig has been around since the late 70’s. Please god tell me you knew that and didn’t get the name from the Simpson’s 🙄

[burnt magnet]

It is not from anywhere, certainly not the movie. It is my own creation, the fact that it appears elsewhere is coincidence.

[tepid bramble]

You do realize that not how that works right? 😉

[burnt magnet]

I don't claim copyright or ownership nor do I use it for profit. I simply don't care. Go nitpick somewhere else.

[elder hornet]

Why is there on story line missions for this new ship? Something to explain the what, why, and where? If I’m supposed to know what’s going on from the cartoon, I have watched 15 mins of it to know it’s not worth watching, that’s my opinion. So I guess, unlike the old days when there was a mission line to give the story that covered that and gave you the bp to build the ship. Scopely would sell you the bps if you wanted to jump out in front of everyone else. Now it’s just a cash grab. And I’m supposed to drop a $100 on a ship that looks like a d I l d o! Scopely your going to price this game into the scrap pile soon enough.

[short iron]

cool a new game will soon be released hopefully without the many bugs we got now.... dunno how long think weeks the game has been unplayable to enjoy can't chat crash can't do armada's always trouble can't clean a station because of lagging etc the list is growing and growing..... and so long without real fixes then a new game can give a breath of fresh air!

[tranquil ermine]

BS ad doesnt give the reward. Should prob fix that

[wind vortex]

Same level of accuracy as all their other advertising 😆

[wispy wraith]

Scoply is missing out on a TON of revenue by not charging players to change their names. You should be charging $19.99 for a token that allows you to change your name.

[foggy marten]

$copley needs your cash to further increase the number of people working on this game. It’s gone from 50 to now almost 300 people and we’re still left with so many problems … now they want more money to either increase the numbers or increase the salaries .. they can’t afford a Grand Prize trip to LA for global players cos they think the air ticket is too expensive, so they really need your $$$$ - obviously there will be more Whale 🐳 arcs in the near future to fund the salary increases and the trips to Ireland and Barcelona offices

[swift steppe]

Formation armadas in Antaria broken

[zinc swan]

Debug your game. Formadas are breaking and become unlaunchable. Ships are "joining" Armadas but not actually joining. Negative mining visual bug. Frequent "check your internet" kicks.

Really obnoxious atm. Probably gonna play another game til it's better.

[polar basin]

5 years of Bugs. Surprising, Upsetting, Emotional, Frustrating.
5 million Tickets
Lets celebrate 🎉

[elder fossil]

Still waiting for a reply on this⁠ #💬-general-feedback message @tacit obsidian @royal solar

[next haven]

Don't bother. There have been over a thousand speak on frustration of out of balance pvp and ships and radio silence l.

[midnight pilot]

5 Yr anniversary, so we decided over the next 3 months to give you a taste of the last 5 years.

This month it's lag month

[frail magnet]

For the 5 year anniversary can you convert all unused event currencies into something usable?

[crude sandal]

wasn't that Spider-ham, though? 😄

[umbral thistle]

The FT - Seeker Probes state that you get X% armor, shield, dodge against hostiles, but in the battle log it specifies Qtrial hostiles only which is correct? and was it missold?

[limber mesa]

that certainly changes the value a lot...

[umbral thistle]

massively, not quite sure where to go to get an answer on this as that is a big change to what is advertised on the box

[slender monolith]

The final tier appears to agree with the log text, although not at that level, wonder what other FTs say in the logs

[tepid bramble]

I think you might be correct

[potent shard]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-spiderpig-whatever-does-gif-22373180

[ivory valve]

Does anyone else think that field training shouldn’t be so hard to complete? I have finished all voyager field training except the trade in 100k commerce tokens. Have had the ship for three months and only had turned in 10k. That means to complete it will take 30 months!!!! Almost three years to complete the introduction for a ship? They really don’t want us to get those free dolomide tokens

[slender monolith]

Depends what you do, but yea not much you can do to speed it up short of spending $. The message dropping borg cube pve chests also give commerce tokens, and you’re still limited in how many you can spend a day

[limber mesa]

you're doing well there, my estimates were over 3 years but that's only 2½.
still too long.

[ivory valve]

Not saying field training should be super easy but seems a bit outlandish

[tepid bramble]

It is a scam. They want you to spend the first bit (there by nullify the packs that are of actual value) and then never give you the rest. As the game will not be around in three years. Probably the single most insidious thing I have seen them do.

[wise wadi]

Merging a server sucks I'm probably going to quit the game cuz it's stupid now.. too many people and I don't feel like starting over again

[harsh shard]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-stfc-merge-scopely-merge-stfc-merge-gif-21306616

[short iron]

oh no an other ios update is this one bugged more then the previous update i can't tell anymore...... can we install it or is it not save like last time....

installed it looked back when you need to click ok for that youtube moment really makes things worse omg 😱 do you guys look or test it @ll? even before the game is loaded after fresh installed it's already wonky... because the no track and push messages pop-up and then your banner for that youtube then the game gets even worse.... i should i record it for fun....

bingo opening the 10 minutes chest has not been fixed so nothing is fixed oh boy going to bare mode only again and i didn't see the shield option in the webstore.....

[slender monolith]

Everything works on my iOS device, no idea why so many have issues, it’s perplexing

[short iron]

remove this banner in game saves irritation

[ionic heron]

haha wrong chat sorry

[short iron]

yes your probably right when your doing nothing inside the game i do also manage to put up a shield that seems still to be working.......

[soft pebble]

I think I can fart a better pack than the star trek day special 🤣not at all worth a 100 bucks

[rich cypress]

Scopely - You should have given the players a gift for Star Trek Day…. Not asked them to spend more money for meh packs. 👎

[tepid bramble]

Greedy miserly self absorbed and totally tone deaf. This company should be ashamed of itself.

[quasi condor]

Store is glitched lol

[remote flume]

Bumping this. Same question.

[opaque raft]

Scopely makes star trek day a day to remember due to disgusting show of greed and total disrespect to the players

[broken flower]

Woohoo another delusional video !

[flint elm]

5 years of milking the franchise.

Well maybe 2-3. It all seemed to start going downhill around the TNG Arcs

[restive echo]

The absolute disrespect from scopley with the 5th anniversary giveaway making it only available to the US is absolute crap @tacit obsidian you need to have words, you have just alienated a large chunk of your player base pulling this absolute nonense.

[woeful nymph]

"Happy Star Trek Day. Instead of gifting you...literally anything.....buy a pack" -Scopely

[kind star]

So we're supposed to celebrate Startrek Day with our money? 1. lousy rewards 2. what scopely is doing here borders on fraud. 99 Euro for what? 😂😂

[soft pebble]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar <@&509690795536941056> I would have bought Scotty’s trident artifact pack in a heartbeat but alas, your current specials are maybe 10buck worth but not a 100. Food for thought about the artifact packs.

[urban verge]

Amazing to see for star trek day our reward is another 100$ pack. I'm slowly getting closer and closer to quitting this game. The greed from this company is truly astounding. I guess thanks for helping push more people like myself out. There is 0 player appreciation in this game it feels like. I've spent so much on this game but I'm done giving anything to them.

[hushed tiger]

For the low low price of $100 you too can have an amazing Star Trek day!

[kind star]

Seriously scopely, are you out of your mind? 3 times 99 euros to press a button where you get the equivalent of a maximum of 15 euros?

[weak fjord]

5 Years Event means we pay them a happy birthday ^^

[cold yoke]

Lol boimlers face on that pack looks mine after realizing the 5yr anniversary "gift" is a 100 pack worth no more than 20 bucks. I guess it is a real anniversary, expected to spend for little return 🤣

[quasi condor]

Can we get some slippers for Christmas?

[kind star]

We are supposed to pay them money for incompetence, lousy promotional videos with bad content as well as lousy editing and the worst service in the world because they want to celebrate 5 years of Star Trek for us?!

[rich elm]

missing "5 years of more and more bugs"

[wispy scarab]

I liked seeing the developers from Dublin in the video. Its amazing that the team is all the world.

[weak fjord]

https://media.giphy.com/media/BVdl6cJx6b8qNh8pR3/giphy.gif

[errant zinc]

Wow Scopely…. Your greed doesn’t seem to stop. If feel so awesome being taken for granted. Y’all screwed the pooch with your Star Trek Day/ 5-year anniversary bucket of crap.

[uncut plume]

I like the Quark

[mild moat]

Good afternoon. My siblings and i grew up watching the original series and turning our livingroom into the bridge of the enterprise and had our own battles with klingons and romulans complete with flying out of our seats. It was a really fun and memorable time. Thank you for using today's technology to bring back the love of the series (and all the series I've watched since). This 60 year old man will always be a silent "but happy" trekking player. Great job and thank you for making space dreams come true......

[restive echo]

@tacit obsidian - feed this back to the guys who decided to screw all the players outside the US with the 5th year anniversary prizes - Great jb trolling and alienating the rest of the world GG!

[late breach]

This game is getting ridiculous for the prices star trek day £99.99 for this no thank you

[kind star]

If all those who rightly complain here would write a fair review in the app stores, they might start to rethink. By fair, I mean honest! Lousy service, lousy quality and ignorance towards the customers. No comments on critical issues. The moderators are silent here!

[tranquil dew]

I’ll not disagree with most of what you said but the mods here are volunteers, not employees. Leave them out of it

[kind star]

I don't think there are only scopely volunteers here! I exclude those of course!

[tranquil dew]

Suspect CM and whoever at Scopely are in damage control mode, what a mess of an announcement. Already had players riled up with another copy and paste armada loop linked to another pay to get ship (with no F2P path announced and has 200 bp cost), then 3 epic officers at the same time with sourcing for one still locked behind the battle pass. This on the back of a couple (ok several) ropey months of game stability and tangible gameplay improvements. Beyond the freebooter add on I can’t really think of anything good QoL wise, just more primes, more officers behind SLBs, more loops doing the same things again and again… then boom, 5 year anniversary instantly drop another raft of store items as “specials”.

[hollow flint]

I already have a 1* there

[deft surge]

BS celebration

[flint elm]

I think that is unfair on frontline customer services. It isn’t their fault. I always try to approach them as a partner trying to resolve a mutual problem. No issues with CS from me. Scopely HQ however…

[celest thistle]

The REALITY is Scopley DON'T give a dam about the players anymore - just their back pocket. The sooner we all realise it either stop rewarding this disgraceful behaviour the sooner they will get the message, but I honestly don't think they care either way. Scopley have ruined what was a good game and community. Time to look for alternatives games.

[neon hill]

hi even though the characters are complete, the same characters are coming again. very boring, I haven't gotten the characters I want for almost 1 year.

[wind shell]

The gift is nice, but single shards almost seems like a taunt...especially with Jaylah whom there is no sourcing for

[lost forge]

Happy 5 years. Scopley wants us to pay them for the past 5 years 🤣 think they are now eating the koolaid out of the package and not even adding water

[thin yacht]

Where are the formation directives?

[ripe jetty]

How many bugs are in this chest?

[subtle falcon]

Uh... 10 different 1x shards as a gift and 10 $100 packs as a slap in the face?

5 years..... 5 YEARS and this is the best you can come up with?

Can you at least offer the players a bottle of lube before you bend them over?

[zinc swan]

I'm the future, if you are going to do player choice on packs, why don't you just go one way or the other. For example, for these star trek day packs, how about giving am officer token to redeem for the various officers bundles in the event store.

Also, absolute travesty compared to the free epic officer we got last year...

[neon hill]

Even though the character is complete, it still keeps coming out the same.

[grizzled citrus]

@tacit obsidian you guys have some stupid words censored, for example "Walter, pipe, and most recently mona",most people are going to call the monaveen mona. Many U. S. Are familiar with the name Walter. You guys even censor words\names that are used

[edgy harness]

You act as if they ever actually did care about player enjoyment and engagement.

They create massive time sinks then call that amount of screen time good.

[wind shell]

Seriously, the more I think about the single shard is just a taunt. I can understand not doing an unlock of Capt Freeman, but the rest...why not at least an unlock...?

[deft surge]

in every games, there's some anniversary gifts, real gifts...GIFTS
.......
.......
NOT fracking packs at 99€

That's how we can sum up this game and Scopely.
Buy and win, greed and packs.

If only they were doing their job the right way.

When some QoL for managing armadas/alliances/crews ?

We still can't know who haven't participtated in ALBs
We still don't have a good UI to track donations for your alliance (territories/speed ups for cardarmada stuff)
We still don't have a good UI for crews' traits
We still don't have groups to organise armadas or anything to make it less painful

They can only copy paste the same stuff again and again to make people pay

And now we can clearly see that they are just unable to give away free stuff from time to time.

That's not greed, it's way more than being greedy.
If they can't get €€€ in return, they don't give a f

[stiff perch]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar why is Scopely so cheap and considers the grand prize (trip to LA) US only? Kinda cheap, that everyone else outside of the US is being told: nope, you won’t be coming for the trip.

[lost forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-gif-21050467 when scopley reads discord 😂

[wispy mesa]

Last app game i played offered 2 fully unlockable premium characters, a whole bunch of other goodies for their 5y anniversary. And we didn’t get the privilege of paying for it. Just remove those insulting packs

[fallen wasp]

Star trek day specials... 100 packs everywhere. I've never been so frustrated with Scopely... during a big month for Star Trek they are all about how many things they can sell for 100. Shame on you Scopely. A slap in the face to everybody but the spenders.

[valid grove]

Those 10 epic officer shards is less than I am getting in the free battle pass every months.
10 epic officer shards is not a celebration, its a given every month. How can anyone assume it a good idea to call this a 5-years anniversary gift?
At least give every player one of those „star trek day claim token“, that would at least a bit bear the feeling of a celebration.
Anything less is just being plain cheap.

[tame spade]

Officer shards were just okay… but Better choice would’ve been a token for any 15 ships bps of player choice at current ops level (including iss jelly)…. Just sayin’ lol

[edgy harness]

Not maxed, she is just a tier or two of promotions needed. To be maxed it would need to be around 1600 shards or more showing

[fallen wasp]

And honestly hearing from a few of our spenders… this month has been a bit of a slap in their faces too

[edgy harness]

Eh, we’ve had multiple 57-60 whales walk away from the game recently, and others have cut off spending, and they’ve said as much to their high-roller concierges.

[neon hill]

I gave it as an example. It always turns out the same, and the maximum officers are the same way.

[fallen wasp]

The highest power player on our server seems to have walked away. It’s a shame

[edgy harness]

Scopely don’t care. They like making up imagined retention numbers. Meanwhile older servers are watching people drop out constantly.

[sage olive]

There is sourcing, you just have to sacrifice your rare armada credits for a chance at her shards instead of using them to help you grow- ultimately putting you in a situation where you have to spend more money

[warm mirage]

5 years….and they reward us with $99 crap packs & more bugs

[wind shell]

Yeah, someone mentioned supposedly swarm armadas might provide the possibility of some shards...oh, joy

[acoustic cloud]

As someone who pursued jaylah to t3, don't bother. She's been made completely useless by freebooters. They aren't going to rewrite obsolete characters to make them relevant again, or let you borgify them to convert to five shards... Man what a great feature that would be...

[wind shell]

That'd be a great feature, but they'd still also be useful for away teams or whatever. It's just annoying how many things don't really have a way to pursue them

[lavish dagger]

I would hate to see the price if these weren't on special!!

[molten inlet]

folks' wallets feeling that hole today

[lavish dagger]

i don't think scopely has quite embraced the philosophy of a cashless society, working for the betterment of humanity...not even on Star Trek day

[molten inlet]

its all done via CC so technically its cashless society to them

[lavish dagger]

i like the free gift they sent out, 1 shard of a lot of officers that are now redundant

[molten inlet]

they want your gold pressed latinum, not ur prophetic tears

[lavish dagger]

not this arc

[molten inlet]

they realized the error of this arc and so out with this special!

[queen valve]

I might be completely missing something here, but I'm failing to see the attraction of these packs. They feel light compared to the treasury or the special packs that come out during spend events.

[surreal mica]

Got logged out and was greeted with this fine screen after relaunching... Did someone accidentally invalidate all the sessions and the stampede of people logging back in predicably went poorly?

[brittle veldt]

you seriously didn't need to bother with the pity gift 😂
keep it for yourself next time 🤦

[alpine ferry]

Can you add together everyone who didn’t want free shards and send them in bulk my way - LLAP 🖖🏻

[lavish dagger]

if you wanted to give something, you could have given a Star trek Day Token for the event store.

[cosmic python]

They sound be ashamed of them selfs

[old seal]

Celebrate Star Trek Day.... everyone can enjoy it. Oh wait.....pay first though!
😂😂
Most inclusive celebration of Star Trek ever. Great job Scopely. Please can the Devs pass on the gratitude 👍

[weary geyser]

Are we doing something about this or? Just asking because I haven’t seen any feedback on the matter. 🙂

[tepid bramble]

No, because it is absolutely intended. They hope you use the first bit (thereby revoking the value packs in your store) and they never intend you get through that. It is insidious and intentionally there to appear like they are giving away a prime path. When in fact they are just making it so you actually pay more. THIS is the scopy way of things.

[south rampart]

I didn't even get one. I'm only OPS 5, though. Maybe it's only for certain levels?

[plain kernel]

When did you add the USS vengeance from the kelvin timeline?

[frigid flame]

Change crew => crash, change ship => crash, click on a hostile ship => crash. Your IPad client is probably the worst app you can find in the store.

[slender monolith]

The question is, what’s wrong with it on your iPad

[boreal ferry]

I started playing it the other day on my kid’s brand new iPad because I figured mine is just too old to handle it… nope, the app is just really really poor on iPad.

[slender monolith]

That’s what I don’t understand, so many have problems that must be device or location or network related

[fallen spear]

Of course, can't have anything to do with $copely's neverending incompetence, right? Problem is always on the user's end… 🙄

[slender monolith]

I’m not trying to say it isn’t their fault, or something they shouldn’t fix, i just find it odd that people keep having issues so regularly, yet i’ve never see them myself. There has to be some factor involved, be it device settings, network or user behaviour.

[worn marsh]

I think voyager pulls need a rework after tier 6. You have level locked research for ops 47 that keeps you from going deep enough to get even single pulls with costs tripling from tier 5 to 6. Even after 47 you can only get out to the level 50 hostiles which isn't enough to get full pulls in time. You go from having all the tokens you need to mine to getting maybe 1 every 3 days.

The tokens should be treated as a way to limit how much people without voyager can access the space, not extremely limit how much access voyager has to its OWN grind loop thats already time gated multiple ways.

[woeful nymph]

Same milestones, half the shards @tacit obsidian . Are you trying to get people to quit?

Honestly, this is probably one of the most disrespectful things I've seen done. We're not stupid, we know how to do math. We track these SMS. Pull it

[chilly heron]

What do you want to do? It's a 2 year lock. By the time you do it, it will be redundant. Thanks for the "free" prime...🤣

[celest thistle]

Let's see how this famous retention rate David was gloating about stacks up if they keep this BS up in 6 months time - I like a lot of people on our server are looking forward to the release of the other game in 4 weeks time.

[nova sierra]

50/100 shards for 28m points is so dumb!

[chilly heron]

@nova sierra 🤣 mines 48m

[queen osprey]

What game is that?

[celest thistle]

Infinite - this game is now getting booring - now new things - copy and paste - time for a change - stfc is now past its use-by-date

[queen osprey]

Yeah, if I didn’t like the people in my alliance, I would not put up with the constant crashes and lack of anything original

[cold sphinx]

Its actually 1/3 by I failed math 🤣

[woeful nymph]

Clearly whoever launched this event is worse at math than both of us...lol

[nova sierra]

All but 400 people yes

[nova sierra]

Started playing, graphics are pretty good, UI bit confusing but the view for battles is so much better than 5 second STFC battles

[tepid bramble]

What’s he gonna do?

[brazen patrol]

obviously he's going to nag scopely until they cave and compensate us with a single Ransom shard out of the pure generosity of their hearts

[bright grail]

Or, just poor coding for that device....

[brazen patrol]

What is this disgrace?
apparently a 5y anniversary gets celebrated with 10 shards spread over 10 officers (7 of which are pretty pointless) and packs for the big spenders

These packs have a horrible number of officer shards, bad amount of latinum and cost 100 euros
This is the equivalent of inviting all the neighbourhood kids to your birthday party saying there will be presents for all, only to open up all the presents yourself and gloat at their jealous faces

You could've at least made a few choice tokens rewards from SMS events that everyone can complete
Right now it's either Spend or don't get a gift that's worth it

[slender monolith]

Possibly, but i would understand that if it were android, they are so much more varied. As it only apple devices, there shouldn’t be any variation in coding between devices with the same OS versions, it’s not as if you have direct access to the device hardware, it’s all via apple sdks. Of course, where an actual app crash occurs, the reports should be feeding back to Scopely, and you’d hope that points to the causes.

[bright grail]

Well, I have a brand new iPad, and brand new iPhone, both less than a month old, with fully updated OS. And my app crashes literally ALL THE TIME on both. So, yeah, I think it's a coding problem.

[brazen patrol]

exactly
Everyone in my alliance on iOS (me too) has these issues
often when not doing or touching anything the game just throws you out

[brittle pelican]

ive had this issue since the new arc

[fluid sonnet]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar Hey Ho just a question: on EU Server 107 (7 Months old now) There are a lot of Players loosing their fun in the Game , because they are maxed on ops 39 and they can Not get More progress… some are leaving the Game (until ops 40+ will arrive) , others are quitting with the Game and that is a problem within the Server and needs to get handled by scopely.So pls let this server ascend. Maybe @weak marten can help us to get some informations about this ? Pls let me know for further discussion or a helping Hand 🙂 thanks a lot 👍

[brazen patrol]

oh no you silly sausage, it's been active for a lot longer
Although it seems to have gotten worse this arc

[weak marten]

I asked them about this last week. Will follow up on Monday

[brittle pelican]

i would of minded if anything in this arc was worth doing😂🤣

[fluid sonnet]

Roger that thanks for the quick answer👍 take care Buddy 🙃
Let me know pls, when there are news incomming 👍

[slender monolith]

but why doesnt everyone see it? it has to be something more complex than "a coding problem", i mean, ALL problems in software are coding problems. Whilst Scopely should fix it, it just puzzles me as to what might cause it.

[nova sierra]

The fun doesnt increase past Ops 39.. Just the pain

[brittle veldt]

Yesterday worst anniversary gift
Today even worse with this heroic milestone
I see there is no saviour for this game anymore 🤣🤦
At this point, people better off quit this waste of time and money and move on to another thing

[fair meteor]

Most likely tons and tons of old code and some "spaghetti" code that's tough to unravel. I also heard that the main coder left the company earlier this year and he held everything together. Could be he didn't share out all his "secrets" and methods when he left

[fluid sonnet]

Yeah we know, but will be better than now 😅

[slender monolith]

so, im special then? i have the magic ipad that suffers no problems with the game?

[fallen spear]

Give it some time- eventually the bugs will hit you as well 😎

[fair meteor]

All's I know is around when they dropped DS9 arc earlier this year my iOS iphone started dropping a few times a day. Now it's literally every 5-10 minutes if I switch around too much. I can do a single long grind sometimes, but then when i switch to something else it quits out 100% of the time

[normal matrix]

Just in case anyone was wondering if the new officers are overpowered and break the game, yeah they are 🤣

Scopely didn't play test the new content. And if they did? Scopely can rot in the place with the red guy

[slender monolith]

which is exactly why i find it puzzling, in nearly a year of continuous playing, i only get the regular bugs, like pink mines, the zoom borkage and the occasional lock up, but its never on the scale others report

[fallen spear]

$copely never tested any content ever- it always had way too many bugs for them to be enjoyable 🤷🏼‍♂️😎

[random lintel]

I literally can’t play on my iPhone it’s so bad. I get a crash every 5-10 minutes

[fair meteor]

Damn is this for real? 👀👀🤦

[edgy harness]

Impossible, Scopely themselves keeps telling everyone how great their player retention and player satisfaction rates are.

[ashen rapids]

Like all polls it depends on the population you ask

[edgy harness]

I really need a sarcasm font

[leaden haven]

These new officers are dumb broken, Pilum one shot by a Sally

[silk charm]

woot the ops 60 has discovered that "100% crit + hull breach + a big gun firing twice" kills a lot of <ops 50 players

[leaden haven]

I don't blame Freeman, I blame how iso cascade dmg is calculated and needs to be drastically changed. I bet a lvl 49 players Sally could do the exact same thing here. I'm sure we'll be sold a fix to this 'problem' next month

[wise maple]

They have beyond destroyed the game with this one, but if they fix the obvious overpower of these officers, then the p2w players will freak out on scopely. Cant have that now, can we? So it will stay and thousands more will abandon the game.

[tepid bramble]

@tacit obsidian really?! You guys can’t be bothered. The milestones or whack, you know it. Miserly, greedy and tone deaf. This is the scoply way.

[edgy harness]

Scopely don’t work weekends.

[alpine elk]

I really hope scopley’s decision to burn all the players from ftp to full on whales bites them in the ass and they earn next to no revenue from this material spend event…..it will be upto whales to decide to punish scopley with this garbage by keeping the wallets closed this weekend

[edgy harness]

Doesn’t matter how bad a thing or event gets, there will always be people willing to dump several hundred dollars every event.

[tepid bramble]

Yet the release all the crap on Friday. It is so typical.

[nova drum]

I don't know who came up with the anniversary tokens, but it's pure rip-off and is antisocial and the price doesn't justify the content for the price you would have gotten 100 officer parts with more bonuses before. In addition, you now have to spend more material for the same prize level as in the last event

[atomic pasture]

Please change the on the event store called Star Trek day. Change it to Scopely Special Day All Packs $99.99!

[charred ravine]

Everything-at-99.99 game

[nova drum]

In Germany you pay 99,99€ that's 107 Dollar

[lost forge]

Used to many words. Drop weekend 😂

[agile walrus]

I rescind my previous statement. 100 Trophies per pull for 250 CCI, Cerritos strong pack gives 8 pulls, $600 for quick unlock of Capt Freeman, marketed towards 🐳's, not 🐬's.
Still is 🔥🐮💩🗑️ IMO.

[queen valve]

So am I calculating that correctly, that’s a $1200 upgrade as unlike the borg queen meta there isn’t any variation in how many of those tokens you get from the recruit pack from the $100 Cerritos Strong pack?

[agile walrus]

At least Scopes was kind enough to provide full unlock of Capt Freeman for completion of the premium battle pass.
IIRC, they haven't done that before.
If they'd do that more often, it'd be an appreciated improvement

[harsh shard]

i mean why even spend the money on that, the whales we buy it and the dolphins will get her through elite bp.

[crude sandal]

Not in a long time, they did a free epic officer of choice early last year though, so it crops up occasionally

[remote flume]

These new officers and these pay2win packs are going to be the death of this game. Mark my words, Scopely. You have royally screwed yourselves this time.

[queen valve]

Fomo is a fickle thing. You keep it on the edge of attainable and you can milk things for everything it’s worth. You go over that cliff and push it into choosing to skip on things, you end up losing that person who traditionally spends monthly because they have broken that cycle of spending and “keeping up.”

I had budgeted 1500 for this month based on the heroic SMS structure. No it’s not a massive amount compared to some, but seeing half the rewards for the SMS and the Freeman pack structure of the rewards and the cynical pack rewards for the anniversary packs has made me rethink that budget and future budgets if I do end up “missing out.”

[brittle veldt]

so anniversary's events are not for everyone including f2p who have been playing for years, that's a joke tbf lol

[edgy harness]

Until people do more than just say it’s a bad move, expect more of the same.
Problem is, there will always be those players who will drop packs to win even bad events and rewards.

[remote flume]

Yeah, there’s no way in heck I’m giving that kinda money to Scopely. That’s a mortgage payment right there. Not worth the crap game design we’re getting now. The ST crews broke PvP entirely. Now it’s broken all over again. With Freeman, you can go against the triangle and punch up over 5x your size easily even if your opponent is using a full ST crew. The game is broken! Abandon all hope of a decent game. It’s not fun anymore. Scopely killed its own game and the playerbase is leaving in droves. Every alliance on my server has lost players to this at this point. Including whales. This game will soon be in the dustbin.

[brittle veldt]

i decided to leave them to burn each others with very short period of joy from winning and enjoy other games lol, and reducing time i spend in it gave me another 2 game to actually pour hundreds cause i enjoy it and take some whales from this one to another one 🤣
a fall for a game is a rise for another.
This game was fun for a small while

[edgy harness]

No game should need hundreds of dollars to just get the new months content. I can play multiple triple A game titles, plus a years worth of dlcs /storylines/seasonal updates for less than what one month of just keeping up with the content releases in this game costs.

[rich cypress]

I just got to Guardian and bought all the bps to build the Vor’cha. Ordinarily I would be dying to get to Ops 53 an build the ship. But given the bad G5 economy and the recent Scopely game decisions- I am staying at L49 and contemplating whether or not to continue playing.

[zinc swan]

Hard pass on bad gacha mechanics scopely...you want my money, don't try to exploit irrational gambling drive in people!

[edgy harness]

It’s long since been apparent that they spent way more on the psychological consultants than they did on the development and quality control teams combined.

[crimson stream]

similar boat. camping 39, have enough to buy the Valdore, but don't know if this game is worth investing more time and money into

[mild steppe]

The entire power dynamic has just been thrown out the window. Biggest wallet wins.

[lone musk]

This. This right here is just ridiculous. £600/$600 you need to spend to fully unlock 1 officer, when we're being given a full unlock in the Elite battlepass track that costs a mere £20/$20. This is not okay at all

And I'm sorry, but if you're the kind of person who is able to happily defend this, then I'm sorry but YOU are exactly what is wrong with 'free to play games'.

[mild hemlock]

The game is free to play, this is no defense but clearly it is exactly that, a free to play game.
You don’t need the officers, you want them for free as the game is? Just need to clarify your angle.

You can happily unlock her for 20.

[heady cedar]

Fix the dq mining systems, please. The only samples that keep popping up are the rares and some of us need the regular... the auto populate is unreliable, as well. Have to keep leaving the system view and going back in and it still doesn't populate new regular sample nodes... 🙄

[nova rock]

Thing is, if you want to remain competitive in PVP you are going to have to get Carol. As far as I've seen every other crew loses against her. If you want a chance of winning a fight against someone with Carol you are going to have to get Carol aswell. And the higher the Carol, the better chance you have of winning against someone else who has her.

[cosmic knoll]

other than the fomo of buying the monaveen, this is going to be a rather unprofitable month for you scopely, told you to NOT cherry pick shills for your facetime conference calls.

[slender monolith]

I think that’s the main issue these days. Games are marketed as free to play, which was fine when the only thing money got you were resources and cosmetics, but when it changed to including powerful items, that may or may not be obtainable via other routes, free to play changed its meaning and became “free to play, pay to compete”. Free to play isn’t a lie, but it isn’t always enjoyable.

[midnight pilot]

I'd refute that, the games more challenging ftp. Granted.
But p2 compete nah, just gonna need spend more time.

And always be behind the meta.

All people really paying for is advantage and really those chasing meta are really majority who go it's too hard I need to spend cis I can.

What's more worrying are those that spend what they can't afford.. To keep up.

Yes it's totally different game ftp. You really don't chase slbs or heroic sms, you just strategically time your spends and evaluate and plan.

What do you need to plan to use a cc, just have you got, money, can you afford it..

[mild hemlock]

I don’t disagree with you on the higher the tier the better, yet the person’s comments was based on free to play and the complaint of having to pay for a better officer who is new and exclusive.
It is a business and they can’t give it all away for free.

[mild hemlock]

There are always going to be elite unlocks behind pay walls in every game, that’s the common business model in all these mobile games.
Nearly all officers and research, with the exception of a few combat research currencies, have been added to f2p.
Personally, I don’t disagree that it isn’t always comfortable. I struggle on incursions in pvp often enough.

[tepid bramble]

Your time is better spent elsewhere then 🤨

[tepid bramble]

How about giving some stuff away for free? This company is miserly and punishing on it’s diminishing returns.

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar This is the last mosaic stone to the death of the game. It no longer makes sense. A Saladin defeats a Corvus!!! With the new officers, you have made all the previous ones completely worthless.

[limber mesa]

corvus did have a useless crew for pvp.

[nova sierra]

Yes, and? At some point you have to farm red triangles. And then you will be killed by a cheap Saladin. 🤣

[limber mesa]

pvp is a pain in this game because there's huge power leaps from 1 level to the next at a few points.
it's nice being able to hit someone who thinks they're invincible every now and then, give them a little surprise.

[vagrant zinc]

One could flip the argument and say its good that whales are not so invincible now...a lot of people wanted a way to fight back against higher players, this crew is it. Ofc you will only be able to hit the ones with pve crews on. Just a different perspective, I haven't decided how I feel about it yet really. 😕

[limber mesa]

we're dealing with a mega-whale on our server, who really loves showing off his northcutt in territory defences.
not to contest, just to destroy people 20+ levels below him.
i say mega-whale because the whales of this server are in their high 40's, 2 in their low 50's, and he's now 56.

[tepid bramble]

You do realize that ONLY the whales will have these crews though? To any real degree of power that is. 🤨.

[vagrant zinc]

Elite BP gives t1 right? If that's not effective for punching up then I don't see the issue overall. Whales will always stomp regardless. If they stomp harder with t5...oh well. I lose anyway against them 😂 what I dislike though, is it reinforces a one dimension pvp choice, and makes a relatively new crew pointless.

[nova sierra]

Northcutt is not a "mega" 🐳. That's not even baby whale

[limber mesa]

it is on a server that isn't a year old.

[brittle pelican]

the challenge is the only reason for me to play (although not nearly as challenging enough) im glad we got this new pvp for pay noobs😂 they might actually offer me some actual competition😁

[steady plover]

well done scopley for truly breaking pvp and ruining the game, (even more) more for many

[digital flax]

WE lost already 10% of our Players right after Arc anouncement. More will follow AS soon AS they meet Carol in PvP...

[brittle veldt]

All these complains and @tacit obsidian ignored and simply talked about coffee other day 😂
This is becoming disrespectful not just simple greed lol

[olive radish]

A point that I think is being missed (or at least danced around) so far is this...many of us have been playing this game for years. In that time we have all had to make choices - sometimes difficult - about how to progress ourselves in this game and have fun. Whether that is free-to-play or through spending, or some combination thereof, there is a sense of accomplishment that comes with achieving those goals.

Seeing the battlelogs...where a Saladin can defeat a Corvus...leaves this undeniable feeling for me (and I suspect many others) that everything we've invested into this game over the last five years - both time and money - can now just be washed away in an instant by someone who has been playing this game for just a few weeks.

We all have the choice of how we spend our time and our resources. At this very moment, with the way this arc is playing out...it feels like the hard thought choices, time and effort of the player base are not being honored. That is somewhat ironic since we are supposedly celebrating the player base of STFC during this five-year anniversary event.

[fallen spear]

$copely's so called 'CM's' have no idea about the job profile of a real CM anyways nor of what they are doing- whenever there's just the slightest critic about updates/bugs etc, they fall silent and duck. They just know how to do 'fancy' YT videos in which they can self-admire themselves, but for everything else they are pretty much like the CS…utterly useless.

[digital flax]

@ scopely did you know, that there are 2 Things other Game Developers Invest time and Money in? 1. Quality assurance (the Thing against the BUGs).
2. Balancing (the Thing against frustrated Players)

[harsh shard]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-the-pink-panther-confused-distracted-gif-15494447 that's what how they will respond lol

[earnest storm]

Receiving a gift of nothing because some players paid for it this year is not a good way to establish confidence that purchases will be meaningful.

[celest thistle]

So it looks like Scopley is not happy being criticised and is deleting messages they don't like that outs them - it's just keeps getting better - nice work Scopley and Mods - the truth hurts I guess

[vale wasp]

Deleted because you insist on bypassing the automod.

[celest thistle]

Love to know what in my message triggered the automod - no curse words where mentioned - just facts about the way Scopley is treating their players - anyway - I honestly don't care anymore just like the fallout from lots of users this arc. This used to be an enjoyable game with a great community (the community is still great by the way) just been let down by Scopley over and over again. Last post from me I'm afraid. LLAP

[strong jackal]

To be honest, that saladin is an ops 60 saladin with pretty good research. Nobody below ops 50 can ever think about killing a g5 ship with a saladin, especialy ops 30 and below, their saladins wont even get over 2m power so its just a wrong example to be used for the possible value of these new officiers, sure in a whales hand its deadly but what isnt deadly in the hands of ops 60 players?

[crude sandal]

Bypassing it by spacing out the cruder term for "largely upset", slang for a bodily function

[olive radish]

You have a good point there and it is always important to make sure points are made with the correct context. I was citing the most recent example I had seen and, in hindsight, it was not the best example. You are right about the ops level though...I probably wouldn't try that with my Saladin at Ops 48. 😅

There have definitely been other posts/screenshots that exemplify the point I was making previously though.

[crude sandal]

Which is a shame, because the rest of the post was pretty on point

[grizzled plume]

This is the most telling screenshot I’ve seen so far. Both L60 (so unlikely to have a huge Ops/research gap) and the G5 epic with the best strike team crew, gets thrashed by a G5 rare that’s half it’s power.

[celest thistle]

Ok point taken - maybe i did slip a word like that in - apologies - anyway doesnt matter anymore - I am quiting the game from a spenders point of view - will play for a while just to support my lower level alliance members and for the conversation, but will not be partaking in any new content. I owe that much to my great alliance team members

[olive radish]

The good news is, that the example aside, the post is still valid and captures the sentiment of what I was trying to say. I could also say...the idea that a ship that takes just a few hundred thousand Trit to repair being able to destroy a ship which costs billions to repair would also validate the points I was making previously.

[strong jackal]

Oh yes 100%, freeman is deadly for high ops players but as i already said, what is not deadly? 🤣 and honestly, i dont care at all about a mega whale getting smashed by a smaller whale... sure thing, this crew shakes up very much, but thats it😅 when both sides uses the same crew its all back to normal. Killing the fun of pvp and crewing? yes, killing the game? Not at all

At the end of the day its pixels getting destroyed by other pixels and thats all😜

Ps. I love this new crew when my bp is completed 🤣

[charred ravine]

4 pvp whales quit in my server this month, good job scopely

[brittle veldt]

looks like all those complains doesn't help, it's like talking to a deaf, time to pack our bags and move to a new game 🚶

[olive radish]

Haha...100% true. I agree, I don't think it's game killing, just dispiriting to a certain extent, which is just not a fun state-of-being. Hopefully that is just a transient feeling. There is still a lot I like about STFC and I don't want to be all negative about it.

At the end of that day it is all just a bunch of pixels and I try not to take anything too seriously...I just want to feel good about what I've chosen to spend my time (and some money) on.

Also, yes, looking forward to seeing how Freeman works for me when I complete my battle pass in a week or so.

[brittle veldt]

i do hate to break the optimistic moment and idea, but we talk about PvP
back in days people worked so hard to obtain vicctory against certain ships, like augur against Valdore using yuki, marcus, and nero, worf came in as a good addition, lorca got released, there was minor difference between PvP crews but the smartest win, there was a sense of competition, now you will be happy about T1 freeman, but someone else will get her To T2-3 and batter your T5 crovus in incursion with a vahklas
this right here make no sense and a killer for one of the most important part of the game 🤣

in the store it says "prepare to experience epic battles"
the only battles i see lately are against hostiles for 10+ rounds again and again and again

[old seal]

I'm looking forward to the Special Event to spend these?

[wanton quail]

This game is so damn buggy!

[rare tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-waiting-im-well-gif-18430344

[strong jackal]

This vakhlas scenario is only possible for mega whales with good research so its not that big of a deal. I mean, everyone has the chance of getting freeman to t3 with money, those who dont spend are always behind and can never win a fight against those who spent

[still mirage]

Strike team reassignment.

[wise urchin]

Better get buying the packs, the event is sponsored by Amex,Visa and MasterCard

[fading adder]

Well I think the new officer has finally killed the game and pvp.

Just had 4 big players quit on our server due to it

[limber mesa]

on some servers that would not be a bad thing.

[fading adder]

It's a terrible thing.. All the effort on research , officers ships. Money spent all destoryed. It's like they are just crapping on all the players. Its insane

They are trying to milk a dying cow, then they will close game down

[nova sierra]

P2W is the game principle 👀. Someone has to pay (okay Scoply Ferengi exaggerates it a bit). I thank everyone 🐳... they allow me a "relatively" cost-effective game

[limber mesa]

plenty of people pay, but if the top 4 left there would actually be fun pvp possible at all levels.
right now on our server when the top player shows up the fun is over, and he's made it a habit to show up at every territory defence.

[brittle marten]

1 positive, yet 1 negative.

The negative:
My feedback is I’m glad I didn’t spend too much on Strike team. There is a pattern of recent content updates where its “buy now or get left in the dust.” It was the case with Strike team for battleships, and now that is shot down so to speak with Carol Freeman. Like no pvp officers matter but Carol, no matter how much anyone spent before. This makes spending money scary since the effects are brief/unreliable.

The Positive:
Everyone can unlock Carol Freeman! For just the $20 battlepass elite rewards. So its not hopeless for the low-spenders, regarding pvp.

All in all, I’m a bit blown away with this update, more than strike team. Like, wow.

[tropic sinew]

Biggest issue is they said the sms would be same like previous officers in arcs and it's not... spend money on all these dang packs, and get half an unlock. It's absurd

[nova sierra]

Yes, and? Territory is not necessarily gained by strength. There are points for the participants and not for the destruction. Move the station to the territory and repeatedly send out and repair Realta, Envoy or other cheap ships. Equip with speed crew and fly in a circle. Do you think your 🐳 wants to kill Realta and Envoy? He comes alone to show how big he is.

[limber steeple]

FYI: The 5 yr anniversary celebration is actually a promo for Star Trek: Infinite

[ocean wagon]

Still have to spend to get other 2 event with BP pack though

[boreal ferry]

I flounced today and so did another long time player in my alliance. I love pvp. But the blatant cash grabs have just gotten worse and worse since the intro of the og strike teams and I’d rather focus on something more interesting and higher quality than this game. Thanks for finally helping me break free scopely ❤️

[next haven]

If scopely would actually listen to players, higher people that actually know star trek, this game would be great. Instead they cater to spenders, some who know nothing of star trek. This is ridiculous. The event stores are more and more ridiculous. There is just so much they are doing to screw up this game.

[pliant crow]

Feedback on leaving the game, although this is more about player behaviour the mechanics of the game really are designed to support and enable such behaviour while removing any possible way to protect yourself or take a stance against it in order to make it stop as was possible in the first year or 2

Well i know it isn’t an airport terminal blah blah blah but here goes another account deletion on 139.
As has happened to many others including my uncle who left due to constantly being antagonised by snide bullying for a year when it was affecting his mental health in the space he came to talk to friends while going through a big cancer and autoimmune health crisis. The hand ful on the server unfortunately are so toxic as to persistently single out and badger people until the game becomes unplayable and actually has serious impact on health, after they’ve wasted 5 years and thousands of pounds and have to either walk away or be harassed. Fortunately I’ve been on and off for a year or so and not spent and don’t have those ties so happy to donate several trillion resources to a dead public alliance and go. Good luck to the few I’ve made friends with and to the ones who try to uphold the Star Trek ethos of inclusivity and compassion and good riddance to the rest 🤟

[woven gust]

I feel Scopely is vastly overestimating the desire for whales to spend on 6* when it's released when they keep breaking the game with stupidly overpowered PvP garbage. I'm a 56 and I removed my stored credit card and PayPal, there is zero point continuing on spending when everything I do is worthless if I'm not able to unlock and tier up the next stupidly overpowered PvP officer.

People who enjoy PvP want an engaged experience...the crazy thing is this game had that a few years ago. There were various crew loadouts that required thought on when to use and what they countered. Now? It's literally you win if you have one of these new officers...and you get utterly destroyed if you don't.

Your whales are bored and your genius idea is to make the game...more boring? Yikes.

[graceful night]

I am honestly losing interest in the game’s iOS app, and the PC version doesn’t seem much better. I think not spending anymore money towards the game and spend it on getting a couple of corgi pups.

[wraith solstice]

Yup. With 7, you could finish the SMS and you'd unlock her. Ransom, you finish the SMS and you've got 36 shards.

[civic haven]

In the research menus, I don’t care how much parsteel I have. How many researches require parsteel?! Instead, I’d love to see my inventory of medals when the Away Team tree is pulled up, refined iso for territory tree, broken Stella parts for Outlaw tree, etc.

[steady plover]

special rewards....

frames and avatars

Thanks (again) for absolutly nothing.

[viral kayak]

Yup, and regardless of it being a 5 year anniversary... even if a player comes in, plays hard and invests hard and shoots straight up into the 40's as fast as money can buy... The simple fact remains, a Saladin should not be defeating a Corvus. I'm ops 55, I was being patient about my climb into 56 and later 58, I've spent thousands upon thousands... yup I'm one of those, but maybe I'm not in a position to spend 1400$ on just one of the new officers, or maybe I can and just won't.
I'm out. Been top 10 on my server as it grew since I started, but I'm not gonna do this one. My rep farming, time, research and entire server community and balance all being thrown away. To everyone saying, you can get the officer too, and then your 400M or 1.2B ship will go back to blah blah.... Everyone in the game having to run the same exact officer on every ship they have is nonsense. Strike Teams was already a mistake. Math means nothing to Scopely. Hundreds of millions in power, ship stats, research and numbers, simply doesnt matter. Throw this officer on a Mayfield, and go to town. 500K Hull Health vs 120,000,000 Hull Health, that math right there is 👀

[civic haven]

https://tenor.com/view/4th-of-july-joe-dirt-fireworks-good-stuff-snakes-gif-14480198

[mortal helm]

Oh please. Players with a corvus can hit so far below their ops level that it is no more ridiculous than a Saladin and probably one belonging to a higher ops level is beating a weaker players corvus. There is no balance in pvp and these new officers do nothing to change it other than how. Until pvp is bracketed I don't care if they make a pvp officer that lets a realta beat a corvus. For 99% of players "pvp" is predetermined by ops and if a whale loses once in a while, well maybe they need to spend more which is the entire point anyway. Nobody needs to pvp to progress their game and so they can make it as wacky and unbalanced as they want to generate rage spending among people who think it matters. It doesn't except for peoples egos.

[torpid cargo]

I see lots of truth in this statment.

[golden swift]

Dear Scopely - as much as I enjoy the game when it works: over the last few months app crashes have multiplied. I know... new content is your way to engage the players, but the crashes really diminish the fun.
Also: while ExBorg brought a little improvement on the daily grind, in the following months so many new grinds have been added. It's a bottomless pit on a lot of days. 😭

[lime bough]

What about having packs at store at real sales?! like those ALWAYS $99 for 50% or less? So tons of players who cannot afford will have the chance here and there to reach what only the wealthy can. Thanks

[rose tartan]

Based on the way the game is trending, there is no way we're getting a full character for the anniversary again this year. Ten shards, maybe. Five? One?

[dire wharf]

best they can do is g2 common materials

[sonic grail]

Still no response to my ticket, i claimed the star trek day bundle but when i goto event store still says i don't have any star trek day tokens to spend

[glacial spruce]

2* mats? That would be awesome. It's more likely gonna be 10 pieces of parsteel.

[vale wasp]

The Star Trek day gift contained 10x officer shards and 1x 5y token. The event store exchanges require purchase from the cash shop when the offers were there.

[buoyant vine]

FWIW I believe the five year anniversary tokens cannot be spent in the event store currently. I believe that was the token given out with the free Star Trek day gift. Those tokens are worth a raffle entry into a real life trip to CA (need to have a scoply id tied to your account). I believe there will also be an opportunity to spend the tokens, but they've not stated that anywhere I've seen yet.

The event store tokens that can be spent currently in game are different from the five year anniversary tokens and are $$$ only.

[old seal]

So the winners are the ones who are actually lucky enough to not win the raffle. 😂😂

[void adder]

Please fix the sms only some of my alliance got the hailing frequency sms yesterday

[brittle veldt]

Any chance the official community team would answer the wave of frustration and quitting above that's been going for day nows? So we can decide what to do next, either to keep playing hoping the devs team isn't deaf and gonna respond fast or just switch to another game and save the time lol

[fiery flume]

I want to make sure I got things correct. There was some kind of Star Trek Day chest put out but it didn't have any Star Trek Day tokens. To get those you have to buy a Star Trek Day pack?

[lilac oar]

I had a similar question. Are we going to get Star trek day Tokens in game or is it purchase only?

[vocal widget]

Purchase only.

[fiery flume]

Stupid! Yeah...lets celebrate...but pay me first. 🤬

[lilac oar]

But as of right now there is no purchase option in the store???? Hmmmmmm

[wispy mesa]

Truth be told i’m not sure what everyone is upset about in this patch. Now we never have to get a new ship again! Scopely shot itself in it’s foot with this cascade garbage. They did us a favour

[red cliff]

Well for one, it kinda invalidated everyone's previous hard work. Nobody likes having their stuff being obsoleted

[wispy mesa]

But now you don’t have to do their grinds anymore. Fly your g4’s with new officers. Take out 56 ships

[potent shard]

Someone is salty, at least now folks that are in the 50's that like to hit 10-15 ops below them, below can finally get a taste of their own medicine.

[lost forge]

https://tenor.com/view/salesman-car-salesman-sleazy-salesman-rich-not-honest-gif-12003562

[digital oar]

Have the devs responded to this at all?

[lost forge]

That comes next arc with a nice price tag for the spenders to protect all themselves from all those 20 buck battle passes. Be like the first strike team pure pay to unlock 🤣

[wispy mesa]

Salty? Absolutely not. I actually love watching developers make serious mistakes then backpeddle

[potent shard]

This is more embarrassing imo

[lost forge]

That’s prob a level 60 smashing a mid 50s players. I be they is laughing their behind off. T3 freeman on a mayflower reconfirm everyone lower ops. 🤔 wonder what they bring out next arc that stops that. 😂 and the price tag behind it as every 20 buck spender has that crew 🤣 I am sure the nerf will be well worth it 💰 💰 🤣🤣

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-smoking-cigarette-lord-of-war-taking-a-drag-gif-20367466

[cerulean quest]

More and more player leaving the game , 146 is losing players everyday ! Good job scopely 👍🏻

[potent shard]

Aaaawww whales are not the strongest anymore. Lmao

[cerulean quest]

Not whales dude … most players are between 52 and 40 cause content is not fun anymore and to much time consuming.
Wonder if scopely holds stats of people leaving … think they should

[lusty hatch]

There are too many daily activities to do. It's impossible to keep up, which demotivates..

like me, I can't follow up with almost 3-4 daily events that can take up to 1 hour for a month all the time and have a relationship and have a normal working day.

This is getting incredibly time consuming. and do what you want but the people who spend, we will quit. As not all of us can get to the level of activity AND spend.

[sharp hazel]

Fix the game, reply to bugs when reported, you know the usual basics. So far im still being ignored and cant complete hot rod mission????!!!!

[cosmic knoll]

EU lag

[tacit knot]

@potent shard You obviously don't understand the basic problem. The core issue is that people are fed up with more and more PVE ships that require some ridiculous grind. Another of the countless tabs in the refinery to collect an hour of some XYZ stuff that I then have to complete every day. These ridiculous comic officers that no one has ever heard of and that are destroying PVP for good just add the final touch to the whole thing.

[white glacier]

Most Trek fans have heard of the officers.
Everything else you said is accurate though

[arctic knoll]

Hostile spawns still suck. I need to kill level 39+ for the klingons and there's absolutely no reason that the hardest part of that is actually finding them. Went to a level 39 system, and the only one that was 39 or 40 was a scout. Everything else was 38 because I assume everyone who goes to that system has the same goal as me

[quaint garden]

I am pretty sure churn rate is very much on their radar. For Android and IOS you can get deinstallation stats.

[cerulean quest]

Would love to see the numbers compared to the installation numbers

[fickle plank]

"Unlocking this refit will provide a new daily claim providing Voyager Materials"

When scopley wants to sell stuff, they maybe should provide more information.
What does the skin acutally do?

[nova sierra]

Closest I’ve got right now:

[fickle plank]

Thank you very much.
Concrete numbers would be interesting tho ^^'
It's a 100 EUR pack at the end

[nova sierra]

I agree, but all I have is the above I’m afraid.

[mild steppe]

Trade your dragon blood tokens for avatars and frames you already have! SMH

[sacred garden]

Wow this must be crap requested by cash whales for absolutely nobody wants any frames or avatars lol

[frozen charm]

Thanks Scopely for the new Avatars 😉

[frosty flame]

How are you to max Voyager Ablative Armor, for event, when I’ve already done it last month?

[vale wasp]

The event today is for the new refit, for sale in the cash shop today. The AA you did in an earlier month was a FT.

[frosty flame]

Thank you, but not likely.

[sharp oxide]

Is there a way to get the Other Fleet Commanders without paying cash for em. I have Spock and Kirk, but would like to grind for the others. Yet I am not seeing a way to attempt it.

[frozen charm]

You can get shards through the incursion-shop.

[wide marsh]

<@&509690795536941056> Why does there seem to be no institutional memory for events that had to be modified from month to month?

[fluid sonnet]

@weak marten HeyHo 🙂 any News about the ascend for several Servers? (Especially EU 107 😁) Pls reach out 👍 Thanks You Sir 🙂

[rough belfry]

<@&509690795536941056>
If Scopely is going to sell something, then is would work, right? The new refinery option for the Voyager gives these travel tokens that are not required anywhere. These are the smae token you get with the Silver Brood easter egg summon. Tokens to nowhere!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642769739965530152/1151215103421714442/Skjermbilde_586.png

[hoary linden]

Please tell me Automated Shipyards not dropping a chest is an oversight...

[nova sierra]

Nope

All loot is rewarded as loot.

No chest is by design.

[hoary linden]

Dumb design when every other armada drops chests lol

[dim hemlock]

Here’s a crazy idea! Since you refuse to fix the game so we can spend more than 5 mins at a time in it, maybe you can put armada directives in their very own folder? It’s ridiculous to try to see what you have for directives mixed into the OTHER page. Or would that be too much to ask?

[sacred garden]

I just want to know when the borg event for getting borg shards will be back around. As well as when we can expect to earn the stuff for the lower deck officer pull deal. Your putting things in officer recruitment that can’t be earned and in the event store that can’t be earned makes the game suck. Pay to win has to much advantage as it is.

[fallen arrow]

@sacred garden Borg shards are available as things you can get from Borg armada rewards, and the older LD officer shards come from the Cerritos Refinery, which you get the tokens from an event every Wednesday.

[tough summit]

it says that i have 2 lower deck missions but i see only 1

[fervent pollen]

I didn’t even notice the bad token…I was mostly miffed that it wasn’t a refinery addition in the vein of the commerce refines that give ship parts and research material. I couldn’t be more disappointed. Complete waste of money. Very deceptive.

[rough belfry]

It seems they fixed the token. And the chest seems to mimic what the Defiant does for teh Bajorian store. ie it gives you everything you need to boost the rest of the refinery.

[ripe thicket]

Scopley, in your greed, you have lost more money on the long run. While the whales bought a lot of packs to get the new officers, the dolphins and light spenders, spent less.

Whales don't make whale spend, dolphins do. Whales know their place in the pecking order. The FTP/light spenders figure out how to push the envelope and punch up on the dolphins. The dolphins do that to Whales which causes them to rage spend.

All you have done is pushed dolphins into spending less.

I was actually looking at getting a few packs this month. No to compete in the slb, but the heroic sms. I didn't buy anything and I may not even buy the elite battlepass now.

I know on my server, there were a couple who spent on the slb but the slb was low. 15 mil for top 50. 45 mil for top 10. It is normally twice that.

Short term profit gains for the lose of tomorrow's. Wtg.

There are a lot less players oj right now and yoir poor choices are pushing more away.

[tepid bramble]

Why are we even surprised at this point? Scoply has been all about the scamming here of late. I just take it for granted that they are trying to rip me off and ignore this crap. 🤷‍♂️

[woven gust]

@ripe thicket this entire Arc was designed to get whales to spend on the new 3 Epic PvP officers as much as possible with current 5* economy. Mainly because they know they are releasing 6* economy in the coming months.

Why let whales "double dip" in a sense in earning these PvP officers over the next several months with 6* economy that they'll buy anyways. They know exactly what they are doing with this release.

[ripe thicket]

Not really. Because the dolphins ain't buying. The whales already have them. And once 6* drops, unless the ships are just a little more powerful, 6* ships will eat 5*. And many of the big dolphins on my server ain't buying other packs right now because of this. We have had a couple quietly quit.

[woven gust]

@ripe thicket the dolphins aren't spending because it's impossibile to unlock these new officers with the reduced amounts. There's zero point trying to compete for the top spots that give just enough to unlock them...which is exactly what Scopely wants. Multiple tiers of these new officers also greatly enhance their power, so whales want them as much as possible.

They don't give two you-know-whats about dolphin spending when they know whales are going to spend to unlock these new officers that give a clear PvP advantage.

The whale on my server s30, spent 120million resources...that's a crap ton of packs for a level 60 that's already maxed out.

Don't get me wrong, I hate 6* and think it will kill the game by causing many to quit, but they have spending metrics. RevDeuce mentioned on one of his podcasts that 6* is estimated to make them around $20 million or so from whale spending. I personally think that's way off and I see many 60s just quitting if 61-70 is 3x-5x more expensive than 51-60. However, Scopely has their metrics and they'll push 6* whether we like it or not.

[tepid bramble]

I flat out think Rev is wrong on this one as well. I see the game dying very rapidly once 6* comes out.

[woven gust]

@tepid bramble that's what I've been preaching too. Just from informally messaging level 60s. Many have no desire to spend a ton of $$$ on 6* when they already dominate with their 5* epics.

There's not nearly enough players who are 53+, let alone 60 to justify buying 6* ships...especially with Incursions being really hit-or-miss.

I feel Scopely is BADLY overestimating the desire for 6*...but doubt they'll stop and consider not releasing it.

[ripe thicket]

But whales don't need to win the slb to get the officers, just buy those 14 packs. I will be shocked if they don't have officer packs for sale as well. at $1400 bucks, most of the whales should have them between the random pulls and the sms heroic. The slb is just a bonus. We had 2 spend over 100mil points. Then 80 then 60. Top 10 was only 54 mil. Top 50 was 15 mil.

I know our whales spend a ton, there are several planets named for them here. But they didn't take the top slb. They just bought the packs.

[woven gust]

It's not just unlocking them, it's also how much more powerful they get with more tiers AND preventing other players on the same server from unlocking them which further enhances their dominance. Those officer packs are helpful to tier up Carol Freeman, but won't give that many shards for Ransom and Billups. To unlock/tier up Ransom and Billups, you need to place at the top of the SLB and there's only ONE SLB for each of them.

Again, Scopely knows exactly what they were doing with the design of this release to maximize whale spending.

[tepid bramble]

And absolutely discouraged spending by dolphins. And as the divide gets wider, the LESS the will spend, and the less they will play. And once the dolphins are gone, this game is done. Because the whales will have no one to toy with, because lord knows they don’t fight each other 🙄

[ripe thicket]

The ftp and low spenders is what keeps the game thriving. The whales keep the game playing. The dolphins are the glue between the two. Without any of them, the game dies. Dolphins need to be able to hurt whales. Ftp and light spenders need to be able to hurt dolphins.

Whales can't be touched by 99% of ftp/light spenders.

[woven gust]

I don't disagree with you, but this arc was clearly targeted towards whales and whales only.

Every design choice made was to encourage whales spending, not dolphins, small spenders, and f2p

[surreal mica]

Any chance a moderator could poke @tacit obsidian so they'll actually respond to my message about the CC/future program that I was directed by a mod to message them about? Bek no longer works in that area, but gave me what info they had. Obligatory #ShutUpWesley

[buoyant hound]

https://media.tenor.com/_1KgQ1l7th0AAAAC/be-eco-friendly-environment.gif

[woven sonnet]

Seriosu question. Why does the scopley store offer me packages that I already own? Like assimilated amalgam or meridian refits

[rancid owl]

They want the onus on you if you accidentally buy it

[faint gate]

That was a dumb video Scopely. Leave it to the content creators.

[graceful night]

Can you please fix the iOS iPad app? It’s kicks me off ALOT! It’s very annoying!

[woven sonnet]

That tells you the ship didnt make their sales marks, so they are trying to advertise it nonchalant like

[tender jasper]

Are they playing the how many different ways they can sell you the same thing in different ways

[fossil basin]

I’ve had my Voyager for three months. I purchased a pack to unlock it as soon as it was released. I did some quick math. It’s going to take me more than 2 years to refine the required insignias to complete this field training.😮😮😮

I’m thinking someone when creating this field training goal, added an extra zero or two. I can’t imagine anyone wanting it to take this long. 😔
@tacit obsidian @royal solar @uncut spear

[buoyant hound]

https://media.tenor.com/_1KgQ1l7th0AAAAC/be-eco-friendly-environment.gif

[faint gate]

Only reason is they want you to buy a pack to finish. Otherwise it will be 2123 before mine gets finished.

[acoustic cloud]

Hey @tacit obsidian

Were choosing not to engage with moneyveen because you haven't told us what the f2p pathway for it is. In our very recent experience, every time we spend money in the game, it's immediately invalidated and made worthless. So I don't trust you anymore to invest in your ships until I know exactly what the landscape looks like.

[buoyant hound]

https://media.tenor.com/_1KgQ1l7th0AAAAC/be-eco-friendly-environment.gif

[dire wigeon]

on the brightside we know the arc runner so can be prepared for the future when his arcs come around and know what to expect

[tacit dome]

I'm dying laughing at the "be eco friendly" reply and how much you guys seem to hate it, this is hilarious

[tame dove]

A month of shielding 😂

[wise knoll]

iOS crash iOS crash iOS crash iOS crash, still persist from years and every 5 mins game Is restarting... Solve this bug incompetent developers...

[sullen matrix]

Because they would have to work and code stuff to remove the things already bought and why would you do that if people send you money anyway.

They just do the bare minimum work, rarely do they fix a bug someone really encountered.

[sacred garden]

Seen no in game announcement about this maintenance . Didn’t even learn about tell kicked out of the game freaken liars say an hr before but I seen none and been playing. Typical scopley bad communication . Yep very little ever gets fixed most of the time these so called fixes break the game all while scopley demands more and more money.

Yeah ost about a ship that no one is buying to try to drive up sells lol . Duh I gotta buy this at $100 though I know it’s going to be broken and the game is going to break more since scopley hasn’t a clue on how to do things without breaking the game…… not me since it’ll be another broken ship and the game will just wind up more broken again. I have better games and things to spend my money on then this broken game.

[weary tree]

You have discord, you're on this server, maintenance announcements are posted in the first menu on the dropdown. Not a lot of work to check it once in a while for notices. It was up 12 hrs before. What more do you want? Someone showing up at your house in person? Maybe scopely should take over your media player and play a countdown from when they announce it.

[brittle pelican]

whoop! thankyou scopely for removing the trashy tribbleHF & DB vials from my game😎👍🏻

[native scaffold]

working now

[wintry cave]

I would like the maintenance announcements sent via carrier pigeon.

[nova sierra]

when is scopley gonna do something about Bot usage you can see by your back end if a player is doing something like using Bots yet you ignore it ,just look a SLB the regular winners are the same so unless their online 30hrs or more day impossible to get that score yet ignored by scopely WHY so we will buy more packs to try and win so hit them in pocket don't buy till they sort game and bot usage out

[nova sierra]

100x yes. It is crazy that the crashes have been ignored for so long

[woven sonnet]

@vale wasp server 28 went down 3 1/2 hours ago. what happened to a 2 1/2 hour maintenance? Any estimate on when it will go back live?

[granite perch]

Well be happy yours not up again, 133 is an hostile shoots not counting

[untold vault]

S34 dailies don't seem to be working after the patch. People have reported freebooter, faction and swarm not counting correctly.

[nova sierra]

“Things” with hostile kills on maintained servers have been reported. Will provide any updates we get.

[left imp]

Server back but my account is in a "corrupted state" now. Anyone else got this?

[nova sierra]

First one I’m reading. Got a screen?

[nova sierra]

Thanks - ok, will keep an eye out for more. You should follow the steps in #👽-how-to-contact-support to get back into the game 🙏🏻

[left imp]

Thanks. Have already logged a ticket...hoping it's quicker than the 72 hrs stated 😳

[civic haven]

👎

[sullen terrace]

Oh…prepare to be disappointed. The support response times are shockingly poor, from my own experience 72 hours is wishful thinking. 🙈

[lofty girder]

On 58 daily event are not scoring. Killing hostiles in sol did not count for fkr hostile kills. A lot of other said how mining not scoring either. Another update breaking thing in game…

[rose tartan]

Exactly. 7-10 days is average, in my experience, and they usually just spew some garbage and close out the ticket without giving you a chance to respond.

[sullen terrace]

Yup that’s been my experience too. At least 7 days and the response is usually garbage.

[untold zephyr]

We have a player in our alliance that has a corrupted game state as of this morning. Plus no hostiles counting toward events. Server 34.

[bleak kiln]

even 72 hours, our station will be drained.

[left imp]

So not just me then by the looks of it....hope they resolve quickly

[ripe thicket]

If you know they are using bots, have fun...especially with events like the Texas kill slb. Mantis sting their ships and watch them blow up. Bots may repair and replace but if you get several players to do that...it is hilarious.

Or, even better, hit their base. We raided one guy botting. His ships kept blowing up and repairing and being sent out while being raided.

[magic solstice]

Mines broke too

[sullen parrot]

Loading screens every time you claim a reward or open a box are unbearable. Remove them or at least speed them up. Why is it so long, even on static items where the value is known (no rng).

[grim vector]

Events are broken and even dailies (freebooters) dont count. Scopely did an exceptional good job of fixing things that weren't broken and breaking it doing so. Won't take long untill more and more players will leave this (former) great game.

[devout ermine]

Openly admitting the forbidden tech upgrade mechanic was a mistake and still hosting forbidden tech events. Very dubious act.

[edgy harness]

It’s very Scopely of them

[dreamy river]

APAC maintenance, has it been done, or is it postponed ?

[soft pebble]

The game is broken after the so called maintenance.

[next haven]

These are new features.

[brazen mauve]

Romulan ships are not scoring towards dailies or events

[errant zinc]

Not sure what y’all did, but I didn’t get any score of daily points for any Freebooters that I hit. Did y’all break something? Again?

[nova sierra]

@server 58 freebooters are still scopely. Hello anyone there?

[hard aurora]

I wish Scopely would learn to do math or shrooms, not both at the same time.

[harsh shard]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-cute-math-formulas-gif-17580986

[nova sierra]

game is 80% loading screens even on menus and places that shouldnt need any loading at all, going from the gifts page to the chest subpage should not require a full UI reload, nor should going into different event folders

[gleaming grove]

Still don't do q-trials. Spawning 2 systems away means moving out of territory if I want to do it, which means recalling all my ships to move. Terrible mechanic. Spawn it in the same system as my station or push spawns outside territory.

[shell root]

Why is the trit cost for Voyger so out of scope? It's somewhere like 3-4 times the cost to tier 2 of taking an ops 42 4* ship to that same tier. I know it's a "special" ship, but it ain't 4 times the cost special.

[jaunty turtle]

@tacit obsidian you missed US S28 is effected in your announcement

[next haven]

@tacit obsidian is scopely going to auto complete dailies and events for all servers? I do not enjoy repeating efforts.

[woven sonnet]

Why is server 28 not mentioned I scopley post

[lost forge]

The money you spend making them cute unwatched and unwanted Dev videos. You all spend on quality control and testing. Don’t believe me. Take a pole and just listen. 😂

Just some general feed back.

[trail halo]

‘Having trouble scoring’ LOL. How about we are aware that our maintenance to fix things caused even more issues. Blah blah blah.

[cosmic knoll]

just making it as hard as possible to complete the battlepass ... hahahaha, what a backtrack on freeman

[cosmic knoll]

remove all belowdeck abilities and remove any crew that adds burning hb or moral, apparently scoring works only in this circumstance

[wise knoll]

The best response ever of scopely... remove officers... and i have to change with what?

[cosmic knoll]

snw or pmc

[crystal breach]

@tacit obsidian 63 is also affected

[restive spear]

Is anyone else facing the issue that this error pops up every 10 seconds?

[sacred garden]

Your maintenance mad my game worse not better, was going good now get errors again , kicked and dang ship gets locked into battle . Claiming still gets lost in progress when pops for attacks and wins and mining completed pop up. Pop ups should never effect claiming or game play but yours do all the time

[woven sonnet]

@tacit obsidian Server 28, hostiles are not counting for ex borg or faction

[tranquil roost]

Dont use Burning, Hull Breach or Morale officer. PMC/T or PBC/T have none of these. Just done ExBorg daily...but my repair bill is bigger 🙄

[valid willow]

@tacit obsidian please look at event rewards, i get those that pay for elite battle pass get an epic officer, but you don’t have to remove rewards from events all ticketed events no officer cards. Even all the small side events, nothing. Is the aim to strangle us all into paying? I guess no change there.

[tepid bramble]

That is exactly the goal. They are trying to force spending with FOMO, “keeping up with the Jones”, anything they can. What they will find though is declining interest in their game. Dailies and done baby. Then off to better games with my free time from now on. No more trying to kick that football for THIS Charlie Brown.

[warped vault]

Is this seriously what we have to look forward to???

[wind vortex]

"It's only twenny bucks. C'mon. You know it's worth it. It's only the price of an entire indy game. Next one is the price of an entire AAA release. After that, it's a mortgage payment. But this one is only $20...."

[tepid bramble]

😱

[knotty musk]

This arc is a serious slap in the face to those of us who’ve been playing the game for the last 5 years. There have been bad arcs, but none have been this bad, in my opinion. I’m a fan of Lower Decks and hate to see this arc being the way it is.

[harsh shard]

I honestly hate the fact that, and this is my opinion, they took a singular storyline from a single episode and stretched it out over a month. I mean come on, you spent 4 months on Voyager and left many of the best moments and some of the better characters out. But to take a single episode and make an arc about it, that's just being lazy

[knotty musk]

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

[mortal helm]

Imbalanced pvp is normal, what is the issue? You do see a pvp crew vs a hostile crew that does nothing right? Enough of the shock pvp photos. If that picture was posted in the reverse and that Saladin belonged to a player 20 ops lower you would have nothing to say even though that is just as ridiculous because of the imbalance that existed before the new officers brought a different imbalance

[tall fulcrum]

Also, people keep posting SSs of level 60s (most likely maxed on research already) blowing up ships. That's a 12m SALADIN... I have a feeling Freeman is only exasterbating an already known problem of the game being heavily skewed towards the top.

[tepid bramble]

True, my ops 50, lvl 50 Kori with Weyun, Ransom, and Pon did absolutely squat to an ops 59’s Vor’Cha. 🤷‍♂️. So it doesn’t help US punch up, just further pounds us down. (Or sideways, I schooled several folks around my ops)

[tall fulcrum]

I'd be more interested in seeing how many rounds these fights are going vs win/lose. Also in the SS above, I'm willing to bet the Corvus was stung, because the Saladin received zero damage, even tho the corvus SHOULD have fired first.

[lost forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nft-cash-grab-nft-cash-grab-buzz-cash-grab-gif-24918522

This arc’s philosophy 😂

[pure plume]

Not everyone can post in the #1151655602569887805 channel…

[surreal mica]

In what world?

[urban verge]

I'm so confused with the current situation with this game. The Voyager was a decent ship launch. 50 blueprints to be earned through the course of a few weeks and a straight up free to play method of earning 1 blueprint a day for the ship. It gave people who don't want to always have to spend 100$ on a ship the chance to earn it and enjoy it.

Now with the release of the Monaveen we've taken giant steps back. There is no free to play method of earning the ship and the events for it are incredibly lack luster. You are essentially locking out a large portion of your player base from enjoying half the content released. I don't care that there is a free to play method of earning it in the works. It should of been out on release of the ship this is just genuinely lazy and greedy. I have more and more friends leaving the game for good due to how horrible the packs are becoming and how much people feel like they have to pay just to enjoy new content in the game.

I'm at a crossroads with this game. I'm not a whale but I'm not F2P either. I would be considered a "dolphin" on my server. I spend if I feel the things offered are fair and worth while to obtain. But time and time again everything is always 100$ there are no real deals and they don't appreciate the F2P community and honestly not even the community that spends money as well. This is pushing me to quit this game as well.

I'm a partnered streamer on twitch and on several occasions have been offered to stream this game as a sponsorship and I turn it down every time because I feel id be doing an injustice to my community by encouraging them to play this game knowing how little the company cares about us and how egregious the transactions are. I feel like I would be a bad person to show this game to others and have them potentially get sucked into this horrible loop. Which is really sad to say honestly. I truly wish something would change. @tacit obsidian

Our biggest spender(whale) what ever you'd want to call them on our server quit three months ago to move onto another mobile game where its much easier on the F2P base and even the pay to advance aspects are much more affordable. They even have VIP rewards for the whales on there game that spend up to a certain amount. They've been enjoying it so much more and have dropped a fraction of a fraction money wise on that game compared to this one. He feels valued for the money spent on that game. Can anyone say the same playing this game? I know I can't. This player that left easily would drop 20,000-30,000 a month at times on the game. He loved the game but hated how greedy it felt the company was getting. They never throw us a bone at all.

The sad thing is that it could all easily be changed if they actually considered not trying to nickel and dime us every single time. I have many friends who would of happily dropped some cash on reasonable 25$ packs but with everything being 100$ it easily deters most people away. I know that this game needs to make money I understand that but the way things are currently going I don't see it getting any better. I doubt anyone of the higher ups in this game will read this so I'm just venting into the void. Just sad to see the game going this route since its one of the few star trek games out there right now.

[placid rain]

yep i am a whale in another game and i can tell you that there whales are treated much much better than here, hence i am totally f2p here 🙂

[echo terrace]

Looong ago, I predicted stfc is disturbing the equilibrium and ruining the game mechanics by exponentially increasing no.s and ShortTermBalanced crews.
Each arc is doing the same as expected to the game.

And in attempt to counter the disbalance, they're shifting equilibrium even more.
They'll soon have no other choice than undeploying underlying mathematics or changing whole game mechanics.
Wonder if they have any mathematician in their department.

To survive the most years, they had to gradually increase things, but for short-term profit, they moved up the stability graph quicker, and consequently will attain peak(deadline) quicker

[placid rain]

no need for maths, they just need marketing, thats how they have made billions so far (even if they dont care avout the longevity of the game).

[echo terrace]

Their g5epic's strength no.s doesn't even fit on screen. Wonder what they do with g6😆

[placid rain]

as some streamer said, they are expecting profits of around 20m $ from the g6 economy, so there you have it 😉

[old seal]

Which game is are they playing on?

[cosmic knoll]

The issue is that they are trying to milk the fastest shrinking population in the game (whales) and anyone not a whale but spends has to suffer ... meaning they stop spending (or reduce spend) because of consistent uncertainty and lies by scopely (wheres the mantis comp?). Whatever scopely got to say about thinking about spenders is a half truth, they thinking of spenders ... thinking of how to rip them off as quickly as possible before they push the game into extinction. Did i mention that mantis comp? oh yes i did. Its not going away no matter how much time passes. Ill bring it up over and over again.

[brazen patrol]

it's been over 9 months since the release of Fleet Commanders, after claiming the chest religiously each day this is how many of a 2nd fleet commander I have
very insulting pushing me into spending the extremely limited incursion currency on something I should be getting anyway.
since incursions are also my only source of Weyoun shards to unlock him, getting 5 shards total by spending all I got from grinding the events for hours leaves no room for Fleet Commanders

Won't even start to collect a different FC because it would take me 3 years and there's a good chance you'll remove the ability to get these shards before I'm even halfway there

[wild gate]

Better than me, I'm on 95

[brazen patrol]

I was stuck around 70 for 3 months but received a little luck lately

[urban verge]

It's nice to at least type this out and let out some frustrations. I highly doubt they ever look at feedback but maybe one day they will ☹️

Also want to clarify I do own the monaveen so it's not just a person complaining to complain.

[fathom chasm]

current Eventstore (feedback / quality of life request) :
if you need to show objects instead of just make them disappear, why not show the status of the object [already present or not] on the upper level ? instead I need to go into each option just to see that you have obviously already checked if I have it or not (green checkmark) and then go back a level. (worst of all -> I have a button to spend event tokens on something that is already present). Please make the option disappear completely from the eventstore if it is an object that you can only have 1 of (like for frames / avatars). Or if you need to show it, then at least show the green checkmark already on the upper level so people do not have to go through all options.

[urban verge]

Sent you a DM of what it's called don't want to get in trouble advertising another game.

[west sedge]

Slowmode across all channels for all user roles - to help prevent drowning out of player feedback

[wind vortex]

Feel free to lemme know too.

[old seal]

I wouldn't worry about that, they will probably join anyway 🤣🤣

[boreal ferry]

I too would like a DM 🤓

[nova sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/slideinherdmlike-gif-15502711

[brazen patrol]

bold of you to assume anything gets done with the feedback
scopely doesn't read this

[west sedge]

you are probably right!

[tepid robin]

The biggest QOL improvement right now would be to fix up the inventory.

Seriously, it is nigh on impossible to find anything fast. So frustrating looking for anything.

I don't live my life like an idiot who just throws stuff into a pile.

Please fix this. It drives me nuts

[brittle pelican]

if you go to CS & request to remove items, they will do so, i do it all the time😂👍🏻

[sacred stream]

Nerf Freeman because she is OP and I have seen a Max Pilum get one rounded by a Max Saladin with Freeman as capt Vs Int strike team

[cosmic knoll]

You fail to see the advantages here. Number 1 its a very high ops to get a saladin to the point that it can 1 round a max pilum. Number 2 is that a saladin is way cheaper to repair than a ent d etc (whatever g5 ships are called) so high lvl whales will prefer to use smaller ships that still offer higher ship punch (roi) and therefore smaller dolphins (who will get freeman soon) can use their discount freeman saladins kumaris (etc) to kill the whales ... thereby balancing the pvp brakets (which is what so many players have been calling for). -> its a dumb whale that uses their biggest ship with freeman as they going to get 1 rounded (as you put it) by some1 else in a cheaper ship

[sacred stream]

Bruh it was a 42 v a 48@cosmic knoll

[jovial edge]

When are you going to fix voyager token mining space @tacit obsidian @royal solar ? Getting really sick and tired of being forced to clear localization to get the nodes to update.

[tall fulcrum]

So, just to understand this. A 48 has a max pilum, presumably skipped out on a ton of research in order to max said pilum, and the 42 blew him up? Hate to break it to you, but freeman isn't the only problem in this scenario...

[tropic sinew]

Only Scopley would release a new paid content , and players are like "What does it do"... and Scopley's like : <crickets> (you can't make this stuff up LOL) #VoyagerSkinMystery pack

[sacred stream]

The 48 I am talking about pays A LOT to be OP he also did all his research FIRST but then again his crew wasn't maxed only his ship

[tribal bane]

FIX THIS INSANE MILESTONE!!! @tacit obsidian @royal solar

[torpid cargo]

It is "fixed" according to plan. Plan is to let you look at that every other day for months, until you get frustrated enough and say F it and head to the pay store to buy your Dolimide particals. This one isnt a goal for you to strive for, its a remider that grinding it out is the wrong way to do it. $$$$

[solar solar]

Then once you have grinded away for it. Guess what. It will be free!! BUT there will also be a dozen more new ships and stuff locked behind paywalls. Here’s that bone little doggy.

[nova sierra]

plenty of games make money without charging insane prices for packs, theres no way to make excuses for this. If Activision can make money selling an entire online AAA game that took far more resources to develop for $70 scopely can also make money without trying to scam all of us out of hundreds or even thousands a month. This is pure greed with no business justification

[final socket]

I find it hard to believe an ops 48 player has a maxed Pillum

[sacred stream]

@final socket I am relaying what people said in GC I don't believe it either

[edgy harness]

Depends on how long they e been 48

[sacred stream]

I mean only like a month because they said they wanted to max everything before going to 49

[jovial edge]

The unannounced Regal Research Heroic SMS is a slap in the face. I give you money on a regular basis scopley. Some good faith would be appreciated.

[tepid bramble]

@tacit obsidian NOT on the calendar! This is absolutely ridiculous. We got some of those in the missions, and those that spent it for power events are boned. This doesn’t make me want to buy the ship anymore than it did yesterday, it just irks me even more. What kind of anti player company is this?!

[austere owl]

being pranked like that (regal research heroic sms) is really annoying. why couldn't you have simply announced that event? it is more than disappointing for all players who try to play strategically and spent all their deodes because the event was NOT ANNOUNCED!

the support told me that they are sorry that i already spent my geodes. that's it.

it makes me rethink about account deletion and stopping being treated that bad way as a "valuable player" 😡

[celest thistle]

I think you haven't figured out Scopley yet. If they announced it you would have saved and completed it without buying a pack. By springing it on you - most users with the Monaveen will have to buy the pack, AND the added bonus users without it will now consider buying the ship and the pack to get the reward from the event. They do this on purpose.

[rough belfry]

I'm so glad I haven't bought this ship and wont. This level of screw-ery is just plain mean.

[muted elk]

this is why i save up monaveen research and I waited if an event appears or at the end of an arc

[tepid bramble]

Nah, looking at it again, I find it amusing. They gifted Rev a pickle so he would say something about the thing, they throw this event at us unannounced, man, they must not be making their numbers 😂. I cannot see why not, I mean, no one asked for it (quite the opposite in fact) and Scopy’s price points are beyond ridiculous. Eventually they were going to meet push back. I hope it becomes an cascade effect of folks becoming disinterested with their nonsense. I know I have. Dailies and done. And NO money for scopy.

[dire wigeon]

yeah the event is a pure buy the pickle we beg you event. I mean they expect people to grind for like 2 years to get those prime materials with voyager then are like yo if you got the pickle we will give you those mats free dog

[tepid bramble]

Translation: EPIC FAIL

[dire wigeon]

Yup. I mean why the hell does a field training take 2 years in the first place. its supposed to be training about the ship

[wind vortex]

A filter field at the top would be sooooo logical.

[urban verge]

I wonder what the chances are that they actually read this channel or care at all about anything we have to say. I understand there is a lot of angry posts in here too so wanting to avoid them might be understandable. Just wish it felt like they actually cared about anything we think.

[rough belfry]

Gmfd, Scopely! It is a terrible idea to put a way point for a mission in a territory with revenge hostiles as strong as these Texas Class hostiles are. I was trying to read thru the script but then realized my mistake and couldn't click thru the messages fast enough to avoid being blown up. Great mission design... /s

[hybrid eagle]

this game used to be fun, something I didn't mind spending time on. But now, days could go.by and I don't even think about it. I can't be the only one that feels this way. You better make some changes soon

[graceful cedar]

Does anyone actually read what's posted on the Bug reporting page? Other than us?

[nova sierra]

I think you are lying to us when it comes the the 33% pulling chance for every kind of badge in the apex event store. Me pulling min. 1 engineering badge every single week. That is a pulling chance of min. 50% and in result less than 25% for each of the other two

[weak basalt]

💯

[brittle veldt]

💯

[rose tartan]

I think every percentage listed in the game is a lie. Look at away team missions.

[tepid bramble]

Lie or seriously weighted RNG. They are like a casino.

[cosmic knoll]

i think you are finally understanding that if i programmed a 'gamble' to automatically fail the first 3 rolls, and guarantee success on the 4th roll, i could claim that the gamble is a 25% success rate ... because you will always win 1 in 4 attempts. yes thats not how maths should be, but thats how it can be presented and since 'industrial secret' means i dont have to reveal this exact mechanic, i only have to inform you legally of the 25% success rate. yes i am a 🤡 . Im not saying this mechanic exists in this game, but im just making you aware that there can be gates or conditions that allow or disallow 'full rng' and 'gated (lower rates) rng'.

[graceful lotus]

We still need a way to convert older blueprints into different ones.

[chrome field]

I'm sure (and I hope) this has been mentioned a bunch before, but I'm very unhappy you took 10 steps back with the heroic SMS for Ransom and reduced the rewards to half

[slender monolith]

I think the problem there is, that’s how people imagine 25% works, the 4th try will always pay out if the previous 3 didn’t. Where as each try has 25% chance of success and 75% chance of failure. 75 is bigger than 25, so more likely to happen. If you generate 4 random numbers between 1 and 100, results of 1, 2, 3, 4 are just as likely as 97, 98, 99, 100, but the first are all wins, the second all losses.

[cosmic knoll]

Very true, and thats why sample size is important. but as i mentiond before about topics like these, you rarely see ppl celebrating success at '20%' 5 times in a row, but you will always see ppl complaining about failing at '80%' 5 times in a row. Obv ppl only come to forums to complain, rather than celebrate so in reality who knows whether theres a rig or not. You have to remember that asking for proof that there is a rig is like asking for proof there is no rig... are companies going to release their algo/form/script to prove its all random? doubtful. Are players going to run a large enough sample size and return the results here? doubtful. And if youre in the camp that believes that odds cannot be manipulated ... i really got nothing to say to you. But thats why i wear my clown hat, i dont mind ppl calling me a clown. 🤡

[tepid bramble]

You could not convince me that scopy doesn’t cook the rng. They are conniving and amoral. They have no sense of decency and corrupt beyond belief. This game would be amazing if they actually ran it with any sense of integrity and decency. As it stands they rely of FOMO, Stockholm Syndrome and sunken costs to perpetuate their business. All of those have limits though. And I for one have reached mine (spending wise) and playing less and with a “slash and burn” mentality towards my account and progress. I just want to build my Vor’Cha before the game implodes and this house of cards comes tumbling down. 🤷‍♂️

[cosmic knoll]

ill never bat for scopely until i see a mantis comp in the form of a $99.99 1 month pack to all players who invested in that ship. (given any form of actian currency is as plentiful as yen). there is no trust that can be built until the mistakes of the past have been paid for. Scopelys current leaning tower of piza trust model only works until the tower falls down because the base is not fixed (base as in mantis comp). and it has to be 99.99 pack because of inflation (in shills own words to defend the store cost hike in eu).

[vernal edge]

These packs really are a joke. 11k uncommon ship parts for €100. I already need 37k uncommon for a single component. By spending €300 I still wouldn't be able to upgrade a single component... Give us at least a reasonable output

[final socket]

Why would you want to buy a pack to get 4* UC parts anyway? Just build and scrap a D4

[vernal edge]

Not planning to, was just scrolling through them. But I can't scrap a d4 yet at ops 46

[cloud helm]

D3 maybe?

[vernal edge]

Yeah, that makes sense 🙈

[simple patio]

Maybe the people using announcements should learn how to use the discord time feature, so the EU grand finale is at <t:1694948400:f>

[normal matrix]

Release game news IN THE GAME. Not everyone knows to download and monitor a third party app to get news, especially when it's released TWO minutes before the event starts

[hidden night]

Ship parts really are the biggest roadblock in the G4 game, I don't even want to think about how bad it is for G5.

[wispy mesa]

They really aren’t bad until you get to the 56 range and it costs 2mil faction credits or something. Until then you can plan it out f2p

[austere reef]

They’ve opened up a lot of ways to relieve the g4 parts crunch via FTP - soloDom turn ins, voyager commerce to name a couple. Still an effort, but not the worst anymore.

Saying this as a FTP player in the g4 economy currently.

[hidden night]

That's awesome, hopefully it only continues to get better, even with research etc needing 20k parts for 1 component sucks

[pale garnet]

race timings really bad, should have done something similar to last time, when everybody could get a chance at some point in time

[final socket]

Ship parts are not an issue at all for G5 ships. Trit and mats are the limiting factors

[surreal mica]

Yet another day of asking @tacit obsidian to reply to my DM that I was directed to send by a mod and by @royal solar... le sigh

[exotic bison]

Sound a bit of discrimination to me. Only us residents

[hidden meadow]

anyone know how to switch servers? im below level 12 but cant see the token or option

[errant rapids]

If you need proof Scopely RNG is rigged consider this. Months ago I got my Enti, I now have enough shards for another just from chest pulls. After building it I had no shards left. However I do not have an Auger or D4 but at the time I built my Enti I was about half way to getting both. I still do not have enough to build either, I now always get far more Enti shards than the D4 or Auger. Luckily I have no intentions of doing so but if the RNG was truly random there is no way I should now have more Enti shards than the Auger or D4. It would be highly unlikely if not impossible. It's clear that once you have an officer or ship the RNG is weighted towards giving you shards for items you already have. If you need just a few to complete an item you can wait weeks to get it. I assume this is a deliberate policy to encourage us to get so frustrated we go and buy some overpriced pack to try to complete it. Though even that's not always guaranteed.

[limber mesa]

true randomization has clusters.
you happened to get alot more enterprise blueprints, another guy got a lot more D4 or Augur blueprints.

[errant rapids]

Highly unlikely. Before getting the Enti the distribution was fairly even. As soon as I had enough to build it, the change was immediate and obvious. The only reason I got the Enti 1st was because I used Fed creds to finish it off

[rose tartan]

There are numerous legal reasons why companies generally restrict these kinds of contests to a specific reason. Scopely isn't the only one that does this. I'm all for calling out their BS, but this one isn't on them.

[unborn gale]

Can someone please give me advice for Operations 16? Anything new I should be aware of?

[final socket]

The propensity for computer games to have preferred results is because it's not truly random merely a simulation of randomness.

[pearl trench]

Is the new ship great, good, or trash?

[midnight pilot]

Click ops 17, ops 18, ops 19,

[lilac garden]

when does pvp play violate Scopely Community Guidelines, regarding the Enemy [aka "KOS"] marker? 🤔

does it cross the line, when they seek out people with that marker [like in the case of throwing a hissy-fit]? instead of, "IF you see them, shoot them."

... or does PVP-to-nonPVP harassment never cross the line?

[silent hollow]

It doesn't. They shoot down your ships all day. They actually have to do something big unrelated to the game - send harassing messages, etc.

[old seal]

That depends if you would rather buy something nice and tangible in real life or spend money on pixels that will prolong the grind in game and ultimately replaced by another ship in two months time 👍

[midnight pilot]

Generally it crosses the line when is combined with private messages or public posts bullying and harassing, singling someone out because of nationality, orientation, color etc

But generally pvp is easy to block it's called a shield.
Blocks any and all attacks on station.
. As for ships you learn to avoid certain people at certain times.

When false accusations are made report it and explain the situation.

[cosmic knoll]

yes all well and good, but i recall some time ago, certain whales would report players for anything they found offensive, get that player banned a few days, by which time their shields would come down, and raid them to 0. Im not saying it happens much now, but this is generally why noone talks in galaxy anymore. and CS do f a about it. so what do you call that? bullying by both players and CS, so ban CS.

[midnight pilot]

If you don't stoke the fire you can't get burnt

[midnight pilot]

Yes that occurred. But was investigated and generally those making false accusations to benefit were banned and those suffering compensated so it died out

[cosmic knoll]

i saw no 'benefitter' bans, it died when everyone stopped using gal chat

[lilac garden]

tbf, shields are ineffective for deployed ships

[midnight pilot]

So pt 2 you didn't read, watch your ships, protect them or learn people's online times

[nova sierra]

If I see correctly, new PVP officers are constantly coming. There is countless research to increase the PVP damage. This is not Star Trek Pony Farm! 🛸🐴🧑🏻‍🌾 There are researchers and officers who increase your protected cargo. By the way, the game owner has no PVP rules... Scoply protects you from insults, etc. BUT in an online game that is partly designed for PVP... it would be stupid of game owners to ban it. Learn to live with it By the way, there is a magic 🪄 button to repair... 🤫

[dire river]

I want to buy the Fleet Commander Gift pack and it is not in the store What happened to it ??? 🙄

[rocky raptor]

buy a nice gift for yourself instead

[subtle kernel]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar
If the rumors circling around (on 110) has some truth in it, its really sad that people by using exploits ruins the game for so many others. If you dont know what I am talking about, its the refund exploit something that is without a doubt violating the ToS of the game. Lets hope that Scopley takes hold of this and sort this out and ban people who has used this exploit. After all, scopley are losing cash from it and we all know how greedy they are. After just 14-15 months after the server opened, we got several players in the op50s with maxxed out grade 4 ships (several per player), its quite obvious that there is something going on and I am sure that there are others doing this on other servers. Frankly, I am surprised that Scopley havent put a stop to this since they are actually loosing loads of money as long as its not stop, not to mention how it ruins the game for those of us who play fairly and actually spend our RL cash on the game, no wonder the prices are so high as they are. Please, fix this and ban those who uses this exploit so we get a more fair game that more can enjoy.

[tepid bramble]

The prices are high because scopy is greedy. No other reason. As far as folks screwing over scoply? Never heard of this. But even if they fix it, scopy would never lower their prices, they are greedy and miserly and have no care for their customers. You won’t be helping yourself with this.

[subtle kernel]

I dont care about the prices really, but if exploits exist that allows some to get most for free while others spend RL cash... then I think it would be good for the reputation of the game if exploits like this was removed. These people forces servers to ascent way earlier than they actually should and severely tilts the balance on the server, especially if these are in the same alliance. I am of the opinion that people who cheats in games should be banned... permanently or atleast have their accounts wiped so they get to start from OP 1.

[tepid bramble]

While I do agree with you on principle, I have NO love for scopy, and are of the mind that it should be the players vs them. They have fostered this animosity by being duplicitous and underhanded in their dealings. As I see it, if folks can bone them, good.

[willow galleon]

Ffs why won’t they make the refinery better I mean max refine for peanut’s

[nova sierra]

Armored Voyager Refit name is deceptive it doesn’t provide any armor / shield / hull health the refit should provide a small defensive buff and also should have a visual look when applied. In addition to the daily refinery pull.

[mortal helm]

And 20

[livid spear]

i know clearly that this is been say'd dozens of times here, but i will add mine to the pile.

For past 3 weeks, game has become more and more grinding and more and more bugs hamppering game play. Constant internet losses, zoom bugs and so on. Now the new pvp officer that is too stypid op. Even more crazy then strike team when it came out. Couse of all these, we have almost lost 10 players last 2 weeks couse game finally broke there will to play.

[old seal]

@tacit obsidian please let us know if this is:

1. on purpose
2. incompetence
3. laziness
4. visual glitch
   Obviously you're not responsible but perhaps the Devs can answer?

[crude sandal]

On purpose

Seems they're mixing things up (literally and figuratively) for the slb/sms this month

[nova sierra]

Answer 5) It is Desired.... Next Saturday there will be the other 50 Bill Dings parts. So with a new G donation event. Welcome to a P2W game. Everyone knew it before. Or you wait a few weeks then you will get the parts for free at some point. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[lilac garden]

it gets to be ridiculous, when you're spending more resources on repairing than you're permitted to earn.

it is, also, partly non-PVP, after all.

[solid bough]

This stupid deveron race event is timed terribly for people on the east coast. Nothing in the late evening. So it was a choice of skipping work in the middle of the day 1pm. Missing dinner 7pm or being up in the middle of the night. Total suck.

[edgy harness]

Should have been something that was a special exocomp you got and it recorded distance travels for a realta while exocomp was active.

You get one run, wherever you want, whenever you want.

[old seal]

6. literally can't make this 💩 up , yet they somehow manage it brilliantly

[barren kernel]

The game has been running like hot garbage today. Fix it.

[devout ermine]

Calling an event “recruit BILLUPS” and paying out RANSOM shards is a nice new way to shaft players. 120.000 materials down the drain. Good job!

[nova sierra]

Then you're doing something wrong🤷🏼‍♂️. There are endless resources in this game. Repair of ships costs only Tritanium. Maybe you should research repair cost efficiency/reduction. Research is extremely important in the game.🧑🏼‍🔬🧑‍💻

[lilac garden]

sure ☺️

[lilac garden]

how 'bout spending more time repairing my ships and station than getting to play the game, then?

... and how have you never had a ship that additionally costs dilithium to repair? 🤔 and/or costs latinum?

seems to me that you're just another PVPer who's happy to not be held accountable for taking the "warfare game" label too seriously and too far, and you want to bully me [though subtley, so that it gets by people]. 🤔

[nova sierra]

Speed ups are free... you just have to do the daily tasks. 👀 Research repair time and cost and no one can really annoy you. Of course, repair also costs Dilithum... that's also available in every third event🤷🏼‍♂️. Just look the other way around. In the Apple Shop, this app is advertised as a strategic war game. I wouldn't have downloaded a Wendy Pony Farm game. This game has a PvP share (unfortunately now too small, but it doesn't matter). And yes, 80 percent of the time is farming.🧑🏻‍🌾🤢

[lilac garden]

you do not understand what i mean by "spend more time repairing my ships than getting to play the game".

it has been a nice chat.

thank you.

[crude sandal]

In fairness, I'm not sure you're explaining it well...
Do you have to wait the full repair time because of lack of repair speedups, or paying latinum because you're running out of trit /dil?
What ops are you at? That's not really an issue you should be running in to often from 10 to 53... With a bit more information rather than whatever that was, we might be able to help @lilac garden 😅

[lavish spruce]

@tacit obsidian when are we going to get armadas in G5 faction space? Kind of crazy that it is taking so long.

[woeful rapids]

massive lag on 130

[lilac garden]

"spending more time repairing my ships than getting to play" seems to be pretty straight forward, to me, in the context of talking about harassment.

essentially, as soon as ships leave dry dock, they're toast; ergo, unreasonable interference with another player's gameplay.

... and it isn't necessarily me [or just me] who has this problem.

[lilac creek]

I don't have to wait for this repair after shooting some reds (same counts if another player should hit it). Doing the faction hunt dailies give you plenty of those..when it comes to resources there are plenty of ways to get those too.

[lilac garden]

i spelled it out, and you don't understand what i mean by "spending more time reparing my ships than getting to play", apparently.

furthermore, some of us have things to do outside of the game, so we can't always get to the dailies and things.

"spending more resources than i'm earning" means that can't even get to a node, let alone get one unit off of it, let alone get enough to get more done than just repair ships.

... if only because people take "war game" too seriously and too far.

[lilac creek]

Ok, did some more reading back and filtering out your recent posts...you're getting a lot of the same answers. Looks like you're either "spelling it out" wrong or not really telling what is happening to you in the game. Could be you are on a more PVP oriented server (mine is not, unless incursions happens..then we all go bat💩 crazy on the other server). Taken what happens on my server one who can't get to a miningnode is usually on a KOS list because of harassment and/or trying to bully members of an alliance. Going back to RL now 🙂

[lilac garden]

#💬-general-feedback message

how is this "spelling it out 'wrong'"? 🤔

the problem, then, is that you can't read.

... and i'm willing to bet that every server has at least one player who delights in "trolling" others [just not in gc nor private messages, for obvious reasons]. ☺️

[lilac creek]

Ah, the "in the context of talking about harassment." part is the problem? Not much to do about that other to block and avoid, maybe be in a strong alliance that can help you out. In extreme you can move server and hope for the best elsewhere. Like you said though...every server has a few of those. Maybe not what one wants to hear but that's reality, I had it in another game I've tried once. PS: I understand your frustration in that case... no need to point it at me.🖖

[rocky raptor]

@lilac creek is this jhamel with a swiss cat?

[old seal]

So shoot them back in kind. 👍

[wise wadi]

Scoplys, you're tight you're unfair.. you make me sick. I hope somebody buys you out and does it the right way you tight ass witches

[halcyon kayak]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar good job scopley. You have chased away another good active player. We had another quit today. Why for a hundred dollars you can get the new pvp crew to turn that little ship into a troll machine to kill things 10x your size. Why do y'all seem to love pvp. Pvp isn't spending to kill everyone. Pvp is strategy

[crude sandal]

Are you in an alliance with someone who might have caused this reaction? It's rare that a single rogue can cause that much headache unless they're really targeting a specific player

[wise wadi]

Sick of scopely, so much.. rip off, slim balls

[azure bay]

Hot take. PvP hasn't had strategy since the introduction to Strike Team. Heck let alone pre-G4 days is when we had true strategy

[wise wadi]

Yeah wait till you get a look at the lower deck dudes make strike team irrelevant

[halcyon kayak]

I know but every time you get stuff settled they come and break the meta all again. For a Benjamin you can screw everyone up till they sell another officer to fix it. That's what I mean they are killing the game. People are dropping out left and right. I'm talking people leaving after years.

[lilac creek]

nope

[midnight bone]

Seriously?!?

[golden galleon]

So, the Billup Herioic event, doesn’t payout the full unlock as it shows in the payout schedule. Scopely, fix plz

[lilac garden]

"irl" there's a plethora of people who are mean because they can be, and who don't think of themselves as being mean because no one ever tells them that they are.

stands to reason that some of those people would be playing this game.

[wise kelp]

Please designate devs to fixing and optimizing. iOS, latest update. Tons of crashes, now lots of freezes. Went to do Borg grinding. Between activating vidar exo and clicking repair afterward, I had three hangs that forced me to restart.

[shy oriole]

THIS race edition is a total FAIL... at least two hours allowed to participate. I missed the first one and still did not see any other announced

[edgy harness]

That’s it, one try and done. Rearrange your life for the game, don’t expect an idle time game to work around you 🤷🏽‍♂️ [/s]

[frozen charm]

I research the extra rogue credit chest. Its a 40+ research. It gives me 100 rogue credits a WEEK. Seriously scopely, stop trolling us like this. Not only that i have to upgrade that useless **** to tier 2 to get to the next research in line.

[vocal widget]

Dude, that research is nearly 4 years old. If that's your grievance, just wait for you to get deeper into the game.

[peak hinge]

This is a hot take? I thought it was a common enough opinion that Strike Team officers killed strategy in PVP

[peak ginkgo]

Wait until they release anti isolytic pvp officers

[sacred garden]

Who Evers idea it was for avatars and frames for reward in event store should be fired no one wants that worthless crap

[kindred prairie]

I did. 🤷‍♂️

[rose tartan]

Same. It was nice to have access to some things that came and went before I started playing. Considering the minimal effort we were required to put in, expecting anything game changing in the shop was pure wishful thinking. People should know Scopely better by now. It was a heck of a lot greater return on investment than the Realta skins, that's for sure.

[peak hinge]

I bought 2 epic frames from the dragon event store lul

[torpid kelp]

Hello guys, is there any information about where I can get the last 194 bp for the new ship (Monaveen) and especially when?

[silent hollow]

Nope don't expect any news on FtP route until next arc probably

[old seal]

Indeed, another money spinning grind. 👍

[vale wasp]

The monaveen f2p path is coming next month.

[torpid kelp]

thx for info

[solar solar]

But guess what? There will be a new ship locked behind a paywall with new resources new hostiles that makes the pickle obsolete.

[vale wasp]

The research is too strong to be obsoleted any time soon. I'd not skip the f2p path if you aren't buying one.

[lilac garden]

what's the easiest way for an f2p player to get like 4,000 broken rods, if that player can't be sitting on top of the game 24/7?

also, how to get broken rods, at all? 🤔

{i have like two days to open my first vault [or it won't be my first vault 😅].}

[crude sandal]

30 (28) day chests, and the last milestone of BP overflows

If they run the flash pass inbetween arcs with the rods, then it takes around 4 months to get a free treasury unlock

Basically 4 months of hitting dailies and the battlepass point events every day minimum

skipping events slows that down, obviously 🙂

[exotic wave]

Will scopely change engine from using Unity due to change in funding development model?

[nova sierra]

any chance u may find out why Pc client not logging into your fast superb running servers or is cos your cheap skates and got a terribly slow servers whatever it is please sort ASAP

[harsh thunder]

The cost of opening a Species 8472 chest in the Voyager refinery at Tier 6 is ridiculous.

[crude sandal]

how bad? I'm not far off hitting that myself now. Which 8472's are you hitting?

[dreamy drum]

Getting severe lag on S17

[ripe thicket]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar
The t3 stretch goal for the moanveen is a little ridiculous. You are expecting us to kill 200-400 Texas ships every 3 days. 75-125 a day, of active grinding. The Texas scout ships require 1200....400 a day. Even at 1 a minute, that would be almost 7 hours of continus hits. Assuming your ship could survive that long. Mine lasts maybe 2 hours and I can get it to 1 round kills at best.

This is not an acceptable time commitment to be completed every day or every 3 days.

And that doesn't include the 8k you need daily. Which is another 80-100 kills A DAY OF ACTIVE GRINDING, 200-250 of inactive grinding!

Please fix this.

[tranquil dew]

Could ya’ll at least put in some different avatars and frames?

[small knoll]

In what language is Rene an swearword worthy of censorship in gamechat?

[queen osprey]

I know it’s useless to post this here, but I am so tired of losing PMs when the game crashes. And the game crashes every 5 minutes. 🤬

[marble swift]

Hey come on now they promised us less grind then introduced 3/4 more grinds so I wouldn't expect them to careless about what your saying

[unborn gale]

Alright I’ve completed everything up to Operations 19. Should I do one last construction speedup through research or just build operations?

[oblique kite]

So....anyone else having this issue since the last update?

[vale wasp]

Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling?

[oblique kite]

Yes. I did that and also cleared cache and data from the app. No luck. This has happened before, and I just didn't know if this time there were other affected.

[nova sierra]

Well, it's not wrong. STFC has a bug. The trick is figuring out which one caused it. 😂

[drifting lance]

excuse me i had my saladin at 2300000k now i find myself at 2400000k whats happining?i didint change crew, I didint do anything

[random orbit]

Por alguna razón estoy en dos servidores de star trek

[random orbit]

Es probable que hayas hecho algún tipo de investigación que ayudó a aumentar el poder

[worn pasture]

Ship power depends on a few things:

• Whether or not all the stat lines are full. That bonus impacts overall power if you did not have each line maxed out when it was 2.3M power.
• Research and buildings that impact your ships combat stats, including hull and shield bonuses too.
• Lower deck officer abilities also impact these values and similarly can raise power when slotted.
• Research that specifically applies when a ship is docked vs undocked.

[wise knoll]

Servers's merge = Game Downfall, crazy.
Only P2W game, this Is the way... Nice job... First and last game of digit and scopely...

[harsh valve]

Free prizes... for US only... yay.

[drifting lance]

I lost power in the dock, not outside , this is the secon time, that lose power
[19:49]
I had the power 2280000k and now i have 2240000k

i do not understand whats happining

[worn pasture]

Best guess I have is the higher power may have been a visual bug and it later corrected itself. I know a few times they made adjustments to bugs around this, like how lower deck abilities used to add double the power they actually added. I have some other guesses but it's not really worthwhile to explore. I can't think of any functional thing you could do to lower the power other than removing officers fueling the statline, or removing a lower deck officer.

Edit: actually...one possibility I just considered, did you have an exocomp active that later expired?

[drifting lance]

no abslolutey no, I played all day, never problems

[torpid kelp]

This was the second time I've been in the system and again not a rare spurt after the useless sucking out of the UC. Is it really that difficult not to program interchangeable mines there?

[fierce hamlet]

I really wish they would come out with characters that had abilities that if you were facing a ship many times in power you could fight it while the other player if they had high stats would not receive that benefit or less of it and allow the lower level player to win occasionally. Like for example, a 200000 with an officer ability of for every 100000 in power of other opponent the player would receive a temporary 20 percent boost while the other player would receive a 2 percent boost because their power is higher.

[haughty fjord]

Sometimes the chain spawn and sometimes u need first to mine 5 to maybe 8 commons till first spawn

[nova sierra]

175 has the joys of this player to come, PD is 100% miners killed. Pretends to not understand anything, and throws insults at anyone that retaliates

[torpid kelp]

after the 13 uc(155k) finally came a rare(700k)

[dire jewel]

I have had to clear upwards of 20 nodes before a Rare node has appeared more than a few times. All while refreshing the system constantly, because Scopely hasn't bothered to fix the lag and wierd spawn bugs in the Voyager systems. 🤬

[acoustic cloud]

It's worse when you need UC and there's only rare nodes

[ripe thicket]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar you are making the game unplayable because of the kill cap. I am 53 and I did purchase the Monaveen but with the added grind of 75-150 Texas ship kills or 200+ Texas about ship kills required foe the daily and stretch refineries, I can't get everything needed. With the borg, freebooters, actions, hirogen, jem Hadar, 4* ship parts (since we don't get shop parts from dailies but we still have plenty of ships that require 4* parts to upgrade!!!!) That is 50+ of each type a day to kill, 5* ships to kill for their parts, swarm if we want additional parts, eclipse, ASM ships, and let's not even count grinding xp for ships to scrap or faction grinding...I have hit the kill cap for almost 2 weeks solid. Every day. I have not been able to complete several refineries because I can't get the needed loot. I can't level ships because once you hit the kill cap, NO XP, NOT FACTION, NOTHING!

This is unacceptable. It is making the game unplayable and uncompleteable for daily grinds.
The only grind the freebooters removed was swarms. I still have to kill faction for the faction kill daily.

Either up the kill count or allow faction/xp/specialty loot. Something must give or it will be players.

And all this is before you add kill events like more eclipse, useless doomsday worms, useless low level kills....swarm sundah and 75 swarms!, etc.

[olive radish]

I'll be honest...and this will likely be an unpopular viewpoint...the stretch goal is precisely what the name suggests it is...a reach that is meant to be obtained through considerable time and effort. I'd only do it if I have the time, which I generally don't.

At T3, I have no problem autogrinding for the double pulls on the Monaveen dailies. I generally am ignoring the stretch goal.

[ripe thicket]

I don't have a problem with a stretch goal, but when you can't make the goal because you hit the kill cap and can't get any loot, any faction, any chests, nothing....then you can't do anything.

[silk charm]

run armadas, run solos, do daily goals, do events, mine, OPC hunt, raid bases, do missions. Killing hostiles is a lot of this game but it isn't everything.

[sacred garden]

How the hell I wind up repairing station when is been under a shield

[silk charm]

if the shield timer is less than 10 minutes, it's the automatic peace shield you get once per 2 hours when attacked. otherwise, it's possible that it's residual damage from a previous time your base was attacked

[tropic crown]

The fifth anniversary event store is a joke. It’s an absolute joke.

[warm lion]

dang I missed a slow mode party? What happened?

[proud moss]

Question @tacit obsidian @royal solar ...
How are we supposed to complete this Field Training from Voyager in a decent amount of time? At 100 commerce tokens per day this is going to take about 3 years to unlock...Hopefully this is a just a faulty number and get's corrected soon?

[vale wasp]

It's not a bug, it's a stretch goal.

[sharp axle]

@vale wasp Its not a stretch goal because its not the final goal, it blocks the last goal, its obvious that it was meant to be 10k not 100k, 10k would take the appropriate time to complete. You can tell something in the loop was changed, and not everything was brought inline with the new change. Scopely need to just fix it to 10kand admit it as a bug

[vale wasp]

Your concern was already brought up, and the answer I posted above are the designer's intentions. It can be designed in a way that makes it very difficult to complete, but it cannot be a bug if it was intended.

[fallen spear]

The 'designer' seems to be very confident, that the game will still exist in 3 years then…it's just the way $copely is ruining the game since a while now that might contradict that 😂

[golden basin]

My game won't open. Keeps saying there's a bug and to update when developer provides fix. I have tried uninstall and reinstall but to no avail. Any solutions please Folks

[crude sandal]

there's a distinct difference between "bug" and "bad choice" 😂

don't think anybody likes it, but it's not a broken bug and more than the 6-8 months per prime from the treasury is

it's just dialed up to 11

[proud moss]

@vale wasp What kind of answer should that be?!
100.000 tokens spent at 100 tokens per pull/day = 1000 days...simple math that seems to escape Scopely...nobody will remember that stuff in 3 years let alone need the rewards from it at that point...it is a FIELD TRAINING and it is supposed to let you LEARN a loop - not stretch that loop to 2,7 YEARS

[crude sandal]

ergo, intended if bad choice... it's not a nice answer, but it's the accurate one

Mods, CCs, players... all have raised this, and every response has been "this is intended", so I don't expect it to change any time soon

if ever

Nobody is saying you have to like it, we're just saying how it is 😂

[crude sandal]

what device is that, and have you done the reboot/resinstall dance yet?

[white glacier]

Why are you doing only one pull? There's multiple chests to choose from 🤷🏻‍♂️

[golden basin]

@crude sandal it's on my android phone and yeh reboot reinstall dance done, back on an old phone for the time being lol but thanks for input

[crude sandal]

it's not the ability to spend that's the issue, it's the income rate 😄

[crude sandal]

do you know what version of android you're running on the broken one?

[proud moss]

yeah sure...we get a max of 300 tokens every 3 days with the refinery...where exactly should we get more? Even if some 8472-hostiles drop some 0,01% chance on tokens, it is not going to change the fact that we need 2.7 YEARS to finish this...

[golden basin]

@crude sandal version 13 ui core 5.1

[nova sierra]

Every time I've bought a ship, the loop gets bugged shortly afterwards. Mantis - Apex hostiles stopped spawning; Voyager - mining nodes are still bugged... how long until Monaveen loop bugs start cropping up?

[tepid bramble]

No, it is meant to be that way. Scopy is hoping you will spend your initial bit you got from the first on research, there by negating the value packs of it in your store (they will change) forcing you to spend more. They have no interest in giving those things away and purposely set that bar out so far knowing that the game will probably be dead before the first person pulls it. Welcome to Scopy’s predatory practices. (Working as intended)

[nova sierra]

Are you saying that after 5 years you picked up on the pattern? 🙂

[crude sandal]

occasionally the chasers path to you, then fail to attack 😂

[earnest granite]

Simple, they will soon offer packs to sell more commerce tokens. Working as intended.

[tribal bane]

Install a different game and forget about STFC?😂

[ripe thicket]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar daily ask to have the kill count raised, especially for 51+, especially with the addition of the monaveen which requires 200+ kills a day, drastically lower the needs for dailies, refineries, broken parts (add 4* to daily 5* chests), and ship xp for 5* ships. Needing 3000 kills per level for a miner is rough enough without hitting the kill limit and getting no faction, xp, loot.

[golden basin]

@tribal bane 😆 🤣

[magic anvil]

A small button on each message that performs auto translate would be nice. Nobody from Scopely reads this, right? 😂 @tacit obsidian @royal solar

[nova sierra]

hey @tacit obsidian @royal solar is it normal for your support agents to lie and gaslight your players? I reported a bug with scoring that I personally witnessed multiple times and they just come back saying that they "checked the logs" and that it was correct and close it without further investigation. Why insist on lying to my face? I provided screenshots of proof that the points did not go up and they just double down on the lies and gaslighting. Is that okay to you guys? Why not acknowledge the problem? How can you people be this evil and still be in business?

[rose tartan]

Did the spawn rates recently go down the toilet? It took one hour and forty-eight minutes to get 25 level 41 hostiles to spawn in Groombridge. And that's with me constantly clearing the system. Absolute nonsense.

[hidden night]

@tacit obsidian is the base raiding generating no battle logs going to be fixed anytime soon?

[fallen spear]

If nothing else works as it's supposed to…at least the bugs work flawless. 🙄

[jovial knot]

So tomorrow the other servers that had not been affected by the issues with latest maintenance are going to get the same issues or maybe more issues?...

[nova sierra]

Rev was pretty honest in one of his recent streams about the state of the game. Fixing bugs doesn't make $$$, releasing new content regularly does. So bug fixes are always very low priority 🙁

[fallen spear]

Yep. 😎

[jovial knot]

So the same as always then 🫠

[tropic sinew]

Can we buy stuff that's actually useful and not complete garbage with these dragonsblood event credits?

[fallen spear]

Not in this game, no. 😉😂

[hollow narwhal]

Scopely Support is USELESS! I logged a ticket because the Battlepass points recorded does not coincide with what I should have, according to the the #💫-event-information for the current Battlepass... After a 24hour WAIT on the ticket to be LOOKED at (NOT taking into account that now I have completed NEW events), the ticket got closed... Because of a Timing issue with the game client not updating. EVEN THOUGH I still am missing 15k points for the NEW set of Battlepass points. WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS CRAP? Ticket Number #12052316 has been closed without ANY PROPER investigation

[cinder hatch]

So the new Territory Capture Season will give Monaveen BPs as prize?
Awesome.
Another event with limited benefit to those of us stuck at Ops 39.

[nova sierra]

Incursions wasn't bad enough, so now we get incursions 2.0 with Territory Capture 😂 with game breaking pvp offers too, this isn't going to end well

[sour cobalt]

OH YAY!!! They're going to reset TC every 3 months. Something most people in the game absolutely LOATHE. This isn't going to make TC more relevant, it's just going to make the game more toxic an drive more people out of it. Let's give whales ships with obscene power, then give game breaking officers that give people no defense unless you have specific counter officers, then lets take the most toxic part of the game and force every alliance to have to fight for what are certain to be paltry rewards. Who actually requested anything like that???

[balmy kernel]

@tacit obsidian with those new territory changes: what happens with the servers that get a merger? Double territory reset?

[rose tartan]

The accountants made the request, I believe.

[median delta]

If they don’t make it so that those not involved can’t get in, it will remain pointless.

[uneven escarp]

Scopely: Hey, you know that Territory Capture thing that you all hate? Well, we just made it 100x worse!

[steep kiln]

I really didn’t think there was much room to make territories significantly worse. But of course there was and Scopely have once again found it.

Out of the many, many obvious ways to improve territories, none were chosen. But we get more of the same researches, more pressure to PvP so we buy the broken new officer set of the season and then, we are supposed to buy another Battle… eh… Season Pass. Great job. That’s how you make players leave your game in their rear view mirror.

[nova sierra]

Our first one comes straight after a server merge 😂 this better not be the Monaveen f2p sourcing mechanism!

[neat pier]

It is a dead feature. Stop trying to monetise it.

3 Battle pass per month? Nah I’ll find a new game thanks.

[sour cobalt]

Exactly. the Whale alliances now get to fully dictate another part of the game. Clearly another money grab with no actual merit to the game other than to drive casuals out. Why not just make the game have a $99/mo subscription, consolidate down to you core players and spenders and be done with it?

[median delta]

On my server they already have. “Do what we say or we will ruin your game” is the motto here. Good thing is we love pvp and it broke the FarmVille grind🤣

[cinder hatch]

Fortunately I’m almost done with the territory research tree until Ops lock is lifted in any case.
The only prizes added (Monaveen BPs) are not relevant for us in any case.
Guess its time to buy a 30-day shield… and see if anybody else is still around on our server after that time…

[obtuse rose]

NO. JUST $&#$*@$# NO!!! https://startrekfleetcommand.com/2023/09/19/introducing-territory-capture-season-1/

[hidden night]

Again the push to force pvp on everyone, and if the Monaveen is going to be a 3* territory service like the ISS Jelly then at best 5 alliances will benefit from this, that doesn't sound slike FTP sourcing to me...

[median delta]

If you want to improve the game, make farming servers and pvp servers. Then, let players choose which one they want.🤷‍♂️

[sour cobalt]

Whales "nobody wants to fight be because I'm so big I one shot everyone" Scopely: "Ok, we'll find new ways to force people to HAVE to fight you whether they really want to or not."

This is why incursions drop shields, and new hostiles drop shields. You want t play without spending much, we'll make it hell for you.

[round shard]

Doing this without finding any way to make the territory capture process bearable for all the people being forced into it is just cruel. And don't say it's optional. The benefits and territory tree already made it essential for anyone wanting to progress.

[mossy sparrow]

The new TC reset rules are simply horse manure. That is all.

[hidden night]

Maybe if the takeovers were shorter it wouldn't be so bad, the 1 hour fight for a 3* is just insane, and hopefully theres a consistent schedule for the drop and reset cause that would just suck if its not

[nocturne prawn]

So its another system to let the big alliances get bigger, make the smaller alliances give up, and add yet another paid battlepass section, yeah totally what we wanted im sure.

[median delta]

Another improvement since so many cry about whales, make pvp be between same grade ships (3vs3, 4vs4, 5vs5 and so on)

[willow raven]

@tacit obsidian what are you doing to make it so that we can actually participate in takeovers? I’ve been in several tcs that were so heavily populated you couldn’t get in let alone dealt with lag so horrible your ship was blown up before you could even see the system? Your tech cannot deliver on the promises.

[fallen arrow]

It's like they are totally incapable of realizing something didn't work and they should drop it. No, the solution is to keep forcing players to do what the devs want them to do instead of what the players want to do...

[exotic tangle]

Really we just merged and spent the last month fighting for tt and it’s being reset again! This is rediculess

[cerulean sandal]

I don't think they understand why territory sucked so much. Any combat in this game is always predetermined waste of time. I don't think people care enough about this game anymore to fight over trivial buffs. Every few months they'll just reassort based on their finances and the victors will always be determined by whichever group wasted more money than the other, but there won't be any authentic competition or fun because there can't be. If this territory pass ends up being some pay feature, it will exclude a bunch of players which will burn even more bridges.

[sour cobalt]

Also, I find it hard to beleive anyone actually asked for another pass full of more things to do when there are already too many things to do. Don't need yet another part time job added on to the full tie just of just trying to get through grinds.

[median delta]

TC can be fun, not when you have to fight multiple alliances that isn’t even involved in the tc. That 1 fix along with lowering TC to no more than 1 of each grade could allow for more to be able to get involved.

[tiny axle]

Scopely might as well come clean and announce that these territory changes are the prelude to a subscription-based playing model meaning nothing is going to be free. The whales are going to find it very lonely on these servers unless Scopely remove the Ops level restrictions allowing a lvl60 player to raid a lvl 1 station with their Enterprise-Ds to get hold of a miserly 10 shards of parsteel 🤣

[noble ridge]

@tacit obsidian - Has there been any thoughts to reducing the amount of territories an alliance can have? lowering that amount from 5 to 3 would be awesome and give others a chance to actually get on the board and have a trickle of resources too.

[native pewter]

So what about new servers that barely have started territory stuff? Is all our work to get some over the last couple of months just gonna go poof?

[toxic plinth]

How long does it take from a reset for all the territories to even have the first takeover? Isn't it over a week?

[cursive gale]

Territory base raiding is actually still limited to PvP bracket, only ships not in dock are subject to no brackets
unless this new change removes that, so help us all if they do that

[fallen arrow]

That wasn't specifically TC. TC is just an attempt to get more PvP. And that just isn't fun.

[cinder hatch]

@tacit obsidian — can we please exclude the servers Ops locked at 39 from this battlepass?
There is no advantage to us, we only see further member activity drop.
Or release us from the chains so we can at least try to benefit from the unnecessary madness

[tiny axle]

It won't stop Scopely from moving the goalposts yet again. They're in it to make money but if you push players too far, they'll leave and this is already happening across a number of servers.

[rose tartan]

The game is in the phase of milking as much money out of it as possible before the servers get switched off. They're not even bothering to try to hide the death spiral now.

[exotic tangle]

This is the first change where I have really asked why do I bother who has time to spend hours and hours fighting for tt every few months

[distant nebula]

@tacit obsidian How is going to work for servers that are merging next week? We are going to be getting territories, then 1 or 2 weeks later they get reset?

[short oriole]

Thank you Scopely, players like me who are not interested in pumping hundreds and thousands of euros into this game and have earned achievements are now being pushed even more to invest money. It already takes a disproportionate amount of time. The motivation drops to a new low. And the arguments to finally end this game are turning more and more. You should have worked better on eliminating the many bugs in the game.

[glass monolith]

This ark was bad enough... now yall wanna reset territory every 3 months. Here is a representation of yalls new ideas: 💩

[devout hatch]

Tell the truth: did anyone ACTUALLY want this?

[fallen arrow]

Always the question. Which players did they ask that said this would be what they want to do?

[hidden night]

I'd be perfectly happy if TC got removed from the game to be honest

[exotic tangle]

The bank managers, this has pushed it to far for me we merged recently and have been fighting for tt ever since I cannot keep doing it at that level the billions of res spent on repairs has slowed other progress which is fine for a short time but every 3 months is abserd

[rose tartan]

Amen to that.

[devout hatch]

Having lived through 2 merges this year. No. Absolutely not. It does not sound fun. It sounds like another grind we have to prep for and interference into an already bloated game play. And I’ve yet to hear any rewards that would make this exercise in frustration worth it.

[hidden night]

We desperately need a merge but seeing this, no thanks lol

[fallen arrow]

Two? You have my deepest sympathies.

[tranquil roost]

💯

[mossy sparrow]

A thought on the new TC resetting. Given the need for a 2* territory to get a 3*, and a 1* to get a 2*… some 3* territories may not be retainable for almost 3 weeks every cycle. That's a huge inefficiency! What a waste! Clearly no real thought behind this move.

[tranquil dew]

Would have preferred something new, current system encourages alliances of alliances really

[devout hatch]

It was nearly a year ago but they both were surprises with no more than 3 days warning. They didn't even tell us it was gonna be a mini followed immediately by a major merge. We’d already started reclaiming territory for several days when they dropped the hammer.

[gilded escarp]

It actually makes you work for things, how is that bad

[thorn osprey]

Fix the game before spamming nonsense ideas

[manic inlet]

Oldest trick in the video game book. Make them fight over the same old stale content forever, call it a pass, a season, a whatever, drain resources, give meager rewards, profit......

[mossy sparrow]

I don't mind working. It's the wait to do so that is unwanted.

[shrewd rover]

So you throw pvp even further out of whack with these officers this month, then you double down on the stupidity by throwing this new territory revamp in.
This game has such an unbalanced pvp system and now another recurring pvp event.
Maybe fix pvp as a whole before releasing new pvp content….🤷‍♂️

[round ridge]

This could be the final straw for me - diplo is the only fun part of this game and now goes out the window every three months. May have to stop playing now

[fickle plank]

I've fought for the TTs long enough after the most recent merge (had two already).
This bs will drive my off the game.
It's no fun anymore, since I'm stuck in the most SLBs with OPS 52-60. There is no chance in winning anything, it's way beyond skill. Just money.

Now you come up with this thing. I will lose the remaining interest completely.

Do you hold tight on ideas when you have absolutely no positive feedback on your announcements? That just shows how much you care for your players: nothing at all

[halcyon kayak]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar "Since Territory Capture was introduced almost 3 years ago(!), we heard a lot of feedback from players on how it slowly stagnated and became less relevant over time.
The plan below attempts to reinvigorate Territory Capture with a new season every 3 months, along with additional rewards and benefits.
We will gather feedback over this first season and hear from you on what we can change even further for season 2 and beyond."
Stagnant doesn't mean forced PVP

[harsh shard]

Can we see this feedback? I would like to know where these feedback results are lol. I seldom, if ever, see any kind of surveys on the state of the game, so not sure i want to just take your word on this lol

[woeful nymph]

I really hope the tc store is not going to be the only "Free to play" sourcing for the Monaveen

[short raptor]

Scopely team, your game engineering can’t cope with large scale battles, it crashes nearly continuously in any large scale territory fight. As a result the very little tactics available in PVP are completely removed while the game reloads and you find yourself smashed to piece by a ship 20 x your power, but you want to double down on this. Do you play this game? I can’t believe anyone wanted this even the whales..you just seem so detached from your player base.

[tranquil roost]

💯

[limber steeple]

For those of us on the West Coast, territory captures run 9a-6p. As someone who is employed, this aspect of the game just doesn’t fit my schedule. You sure have strung together a long line of disengaging features this year 😮‍💨

[rose plover]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-armageddon-gif-23533538 stfc2024

[limber mesa]

i think a few things that could've helped territory:
more connections between systems, so more combinations of systems are possible.
more territory systems.
announcing territory take-overs in galaxy chat.
have systems openly viewable during take-overs(most alliances don't know a thing about how it works, let them see what's happening)
limit ship access to the system to alliances signed up to a take-over during a take-over.
allow alliances to pre-register up to half an hour before start.
either raise ship-capacity of a system, or limit only per alliance.(so an alliance can't put in over 250 ships to restrict challengers to under 50)

i also wonder if reducing the bonus points of a capture point could result in more interesting fights, where strategy and numbers can carry a little more weight and raw ship strength a little less.
controlling beta systems is everything currently, because it's almost impossible to get enough ships into alpha systems to counteract the bonus points of beta system nodes.

[woeful nymph]

It's a pretty terrible move to wipe the territory slate clean right after releasing a PVP officer set that is heavily monetized that completely imbalances the PVP game. Truely becoming Pay to Win

[hexed valve]

The whole shift to make new ships pay to play is a reason to quit. Playing content 3-6 months after the arc is no fun .

[wide marsh]

Territory capture was the start of things I’ve seen driving people away from the game. I’d honestly rather see it gone than doubled down on. Then again, given how small the changes to incursions have been despite feedback, it could just be that I have NO trust in Scopely’s ability to make meaningful changes based on feedback.

[lament notch]

"Becoming"? TC was and will ever be pay to win 😅

[rigid spruce]

Can Scopely please employ someone with more than a single brain cell to make decisions on game changes? An amoeba could have come up with a better change to TC

[nova sierra]

Incursions store payout is poor to try to get players to participate in every one. I foresee the same low payout happening with TC events. Also expect this to be Monaveen sourcing f2p, so will take a very long time to source

[cosmic knoll]

Scopely, you just lost 20% of your player base in 1 announcement, big congrats lmfao. re-invigorating pvp would require a FREE pvp officer to everyone, paywalling pvp will have knock on effects. 300 employees? its going to be 30 in a year 😂

[edgy harness]

Also doesn’t mean “pay to get the same rewards you were getting free for years”

[vale kelp]

STFC is better when scopely stays out of it

[edgy harness]

Lol, monaveen sourcing through territory is likely going to be a paid version reward from the tc seasonal pass if you own thst one territory.

[umbral wren]

I like how scopely is unable to be consistent in a single update... Saying the inaugural reset will bring new services to ALL territories, then later changes to season 1 will only bring new services to SOME territories...

[cosmic knoll]

Once again, scopely demonstrating how they DONT WORK a day in their lives, as they expect players to be able to 'PVP' during working hours .... the number of rude words i could use would make the dictionary cry for mercy. I hope ppl get sacked over lack of income and increasingly faster shrinking playerbase

[edgy harness]

The whales I know are already pressing their personal service reps on how this isn’t anything anyone asked for, even them.

[shadow elbow]

You want to revamp territories? Add deep space territories

[olive summit]

I mean even whales who dont have to work a day in their lives have things to do outside this game. I doubt a majority of them wants to waste time fighting over territory every 3 months. Ofc there are those hikkomori 🐳 😂.

[sturdy dune]

Break the broken Territory system even more? Sure, great

[cosmic knoll]

scopely dont understand, whales dont pvp, it costs them too much to repair, they bash miners. this wont make them participate any more than they already do (bashing miners)

[edgy harness]

It’s more that they, apparently far more than Scopely, realize they need low spenders and non spenders to help them play the game, and gating more and more content and rewards behind another pay structure is just going to cut out more and more people.

[halcyon kayak]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar FYI star trek infinite from paradox comes out oct 12, Stellaris kept me occupied for along time Yall might want to address your BS before everyone leaves. But seriously all yall have to do to understand this game can be found in these very discord servers

[rough linden]

game over Scopely! this is the most ridiculous announcement ever! if you want to shutdown the game, just do it but don’t come up with these super nonsense ideas no one asked for. you should be ashamed to the bones!

[lone timber]

THEN WHO THE FECK DID THEY LISTEN TO??
'Cause everyone I know, including myself, have been saying (to each other, to Scopely, and in those surveys!) how much the forced PvP is ticking them off, as well as the overwhelming dumping of largely useless stuff (and the requirements that go along with it all)!? And look at the responses here to the announcement! The only potential positive emoji under the announcement, is 🔥! (And that one could also be a negative reaction as well)
We just had one of our team's biggest whales leave the game a week or so ago, because they had enough of all of this Scopely nonsense!

[serene gorge]

This new territory event is a terrible idea and an insult to the players. We worked so hard and now you're just going to decide to take it all away..on a regular basis? This is probably gonna be the first step in your downfall as the players start drifting away. You had to ruin it! You really do suck Scopely.

[cosmic knoll]

Im going free so ill cost you IP licencing fees. within 3 seasons (9months) noone will give a flip about TC and the entire zone will be owned by a few alliances who will only be holding it for a giggle. it will be about as dead as ... wait for it ... wait for it ... worms.

[frank lotus]

Whee, so based on today's news I would say I look forward to the revamp of starbases in 2025, but to honest, nobody will care.

[rose tartan]

This game will be dead and buried by 2025. Of course, they'll probably be raiding the wallets of players with STFC 2.

[frank lotus]

I had actually typed and deleted the game being dead part before sending🤣😂

[rose tartan]

The writing is on the wall.

[nova sierra]

#Fix the game!!!!!

[fast gulch]

If Scopely truly wants to give us a fresh look on the game how about actually making it all work correctly for a change?

[tepid bramble]

You’re overshooting, it will be dead no later than Feb ‘24.

[nova sierra]

Not content with adding another “mid season” resource pack to the store to milk players, now theres a new season pass coming to add to all the other packs and primes and battlepass for everyone to buy to just try and keep pace. Greedy mfs. Wont have anyone left playing at this rate. Not even bothering to fix the issues, just churning out more 💩 in the hope the whales are to thick to stop lapping it up

[molten iris]

regarding the territory capture stuff- NO ONE WANTS THIS who were you listening to?! we earned those spots, we work to keep them every week. WHY do we have to deal with this stress every three months?!

[rose tartan]

$$$

[dire wharf]

Star Trek Infinite here i come!

[weak panther]

The sarco needs updating for the new territory stuff, currently it worthless. Back when the server was locked at 39 it was good.

[celest thistle]

Be careful what you wish for - I am sure $scopley has lots of skin andupgrades packs ready to sell you to do exactly that.

[rose tartan]

You need a maxed Sarco to exchange for each 25 BPs of the Sarco-A. The Sarco-A requires 500 BPs. You can speed up the process by buying generous $99 packs of 5 BPs each.

[crystal swallow]

Atleast make the territory refinery cool down be 10 hours like the mats refinery. I still haven't even touched the second half of that tree because I'm still doing the first half.

[wary citrus]

Just another money grab, PVP is so unbalanced

[unique forge]

I find it quite telling that we as a community have been complaining about having some sort of a trade system for useless inventory items longer than the staleness of territory capture but this is the mechanic they choose to update and make changes to in my opinion only to be able to remonetize territory.

[wary citrus]

How about letting Alliances park their star bases in territory and it has an auto defense feature shooting non alliances and detecting cloaked ships

[urban verge]

This is actually insane to me. Scopely releases new incredibly unbalanced PVP officers to change the Meta. Then to get people fighting again forces people to fight for territory again? And not only do we need to fight for it again it would be every 3 months? Some territories take weeks to shape.

[pine meteor]

☝🏽 you got that right

[urban verge]

Also for reference this is coming from someone who has all the new pvp officers. Even I find them disgustingly unbalanced compared to previous crews. This is a mobile game the fact we are going to have to re-do territory stuff every few months is just crazy to me. This isn't an MMO. Not everyone has days and or weeks to sit and focus on territories over and over again. I thought you were trying to make ways where the player didn't need to spend hours a day on the game like the EX-Borg research that was wonderful to cut down on time needed in game. You are slowly killing servers.

[pseudo thicket]

Nobody is looking for more grind to be added to the game. @tacit obsidian This will just push more players out of the game.

[weak panther]

It should be obvious they didnt get the idea for this from this discord. It came from the super secret whale discord.

[fallen spear]

Oh oh, I see LOADS of new bugs, new issues and new problems with the gameplay coming in October after the next maintenance (which they of course might screw up again due to 'unforseen/unforseeable' issues during implementation). Alone this new territory thingy will add/cause 💩loads of new problems (to the already existing ones) and will do anything but work proper, because one thing is as sure as there's a 'Amen' in church - $copely CAN'T pull this off either. But I guess, that's what $copely is celebrating anyways as their 5th anniversary: 5 yrs of endless bugs, 5 yrs of constant issues, 5 yrs of screwing things up over and over again, 5 yrs of outrageous incompetence, and most important: 5 yrs of ppl still paying for such 💩

[wide marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-enjoy-hurting-me-gif-25524123

[rich pendant]

About the TC stuff:
Really, that's the feedback you decided to work on? And that was your solution? Come. On.
I get that you can't monetize improving inventory or fixing bugs, but geez

[wicked stratus]

Just like scopely to take player feedback we all gave up on and do it in the worst way possible. To top it off, if this is the so called f2p sourcing of the Manaveen, it's a bad joke. Only whale alliances are going to get that service. Which, of course, they won't actually need.
I think I'm just about done with this game. The level of shameless money grabbing is just off the charts.

[pliant wadi]

Not sure if this is actually monitored, but with the revamp to Territories, I would like to see the number per alliance reduced to 3 which is the most any alliance actually needs and also an increase to the number of territories to claim.

[surreal condor]

Alternatively, others have asked to add more zones.

[pliant wadi]

I'd like both, as I said, but more zones would be a start. I don't see why alliances need 5 territories

[surreal condor]

I've passed it to Design.

[tame dove]

This is the only thing that jumps out at me from the terrtory capture update.

Another new currency, because we will never have enough currencies.

The only excitement the territory update is gives me is that I may finally kick this game if it starts demanding even more time to progress.

[pliant wadi]

I'll take it off my rolling list of suggestions and requests, thanks

[edgy harness]

Don’t worry, looks like you won’t be getting many unless you buy the season passes

[toxic sinew]

I find the idea that you'll be kicked off your territory every 3 months to be really problematic and will probably end up with more player toxicity that drives smaller groups and communities away from the game

[edgy harness]

They obviously can’t afford appropriate server space and throughput, so this is a cromulent strategy.

[toxic sinew]

Suddenly it won't take but a handful of whales to absolutely deny your entire alliance whole territories and possibly even the chance of re-capture come reset time.

This update is just about handing whales more power; which they didn't really need in the first place...as they're already insanely rewarded when they buy more packs, creating more problem for players who can't or don't spend money.

While this does on the surface "give other players a chance..." that chance is really dependent on if you can defend a territory again from scratch while paying RSS into joining the capture.

Upon a reset; suddenly entire fleets of whales who were happily mining away at their own territories will now be looking to recapture or move into new territories.

This doesn't benefit the small player; as only groups who are still strong enough to elbow themselves a place at the ridiculously small Origin Sector table is going to get a slice of territory.

We should have received an extraordinary expansion of the Origin sector...a 500% increase in territory systems would've better addressed the pains of the entire territory capture system.

[sour cobalt]

"As the event gets close we will give more information." Judging by how they've handled almost every single past event, that likely means about two days before the events start.

[toxic sinew]

Yep; It's called "Being Handled". They're keeping controversial information away from us so we don't have time to marshal the pitchforks and torches to force an about face.

[visual lagoon]

They're just trying to make more money off PVP and another pass. Give me more money for another battle pass.

Apparently the Treasury just isn't doing it for them. They need more. I feel like it's a metric. They want to show investors that everyone is logging in on these certain times. That way they can show engagement. That shows them that we're still here. So up the pack prices. If they've stayed, they're invested. We'll get more out of them. Trust me. Logging in metrics are as good as people buying packs. The more that login the more they'll try to milk the whale's.

[slate crown]

About TC news.
Scopely should do this 3 months reset since beginning of TC. When we all was excited about takeovers. Now it's just a waste of time. We now have too much things to do in this game, spending time for every hour takeover again - me personally can't do that. I think many of us can't.

Monaveen bps? Really? I still didn't used my titan and voyager, I really wouldn't bother about building another ship what will be useless for me a long time.

[toxic sinew]

I do hate that the main takeaway for the last two arcs for them is that we wanted more PVP. We absolutely didn't need that; and they could've done something more subtle than taking a crobar to the knees of alliances already holding space.

They're not really fixing anything by making territory even more annoying to hold on to; just forcing more PVP, and worse, powercreep to pad the power of the whales and their alliances even more.

This isn't fixing isolytic damage/resistance. It's just making it worse. This isn't retconning isolytic cascade damage/resistance. They're even running an entirely new arc without addressing the sourcing issues of the previous arcs and the current one; which is Lower Decks.

Apparently the Treasury just isn't doing it for them.

It might do something for them if they just opened it more frequently. Right now it's so heavily limited it's practically worthless and the contents are so poor that players are rightfully ignoring it. There's plenty of interesting things they could do with Ferengi in general but they seem to be an afterthought in this game; hell Ferenginar is a desolate system with lots of debris and no discernable function...the system simply seems overrun by something.

[kind minnow]

who is the idiot who wanted more territory battles.. we are there for the research and and stuff not the worst pvp the gaming world has seen in decades.

[visual lagoon]

There trying to show the new bosses they have engagement. The Saudis want numbers. They want engagement. That way they can show they have a great game. Login's are almost as important as money spent for this last quarter coming up.

[earnest granite]

Oh wow, new TCs with even more paywalled rewards just what everyone needs....
Sheesh get a grip....

[exotic tangle]

Dear scopely I’m done 3 years in and this is what has made me decide now no more

Remember when they said they where reducing the grind ? Not adding hours and hours of battles just to hold on to TT

[humble wharf]

The new system will drive this game over the tipping point of what I consider to be a healthy amount of time spend on this game. Scopely dictating when I have to play, and investing many many more hours a month reclaiming territory is just not feasible. And many Whales on my server agree to that. Expenditure will drop because there's just no way to free up even more time for extra grinds. Having to capture TT, help allies, defend and then lose it all again for ungainy rewards... extra seasonal paid passes besides the monthly battlepass and officer flashpasses... it's too much. Your plans will backfire and in a year, your player base will be less than half of what it is now.

There's only one conceivable way I see that this might work. Immensly decrease the amount of time it takes to capture a territory ( about 1/3rd of the current time). Remove fixed times and dates when a territory comes up for grabs ( so you no longer dictate when we play). And make sure you can only enter a system involved in Territory Capture if your alliance has actually joined the Capture.

[ebon coyote]

Remember when you guys said you planned on "reducing the grind"? How about sticking to that? Lockdowns are over, we cannot be on this game 12+ hours a day because you guys feel "territories are stagnant". No, they aren't as bad as you think. Everyone is too busy with work + real life, or grinding to bother competing for different territories. Maybe you should think of reducing additional, possibly outdated grinds any time you feel the urge to add another.

[placid rain]

planning is one thing, implementing is another...i always planned to become a billionaire..

[nova sierra]

The wait for ascension after reaching level 39 is silly

[fickle plank]

Since the update for old battle logs.
Thanks for nothing

[shadow aspen]

<@&509691205798592532> Please check out the reactions to announcements and forward to the devs how unpopular the latest idea is. As if they have not messed the game up enough they now want to create another hassle every three months that perhaps 10% of the players might slimly want ? 🙈 All I am hearing from everyone is negatives, even the og players and big guns do not see any point in this annoyance 🤷‍♂️ Not to mention the addition of new bugs that will no doubt accompany the new change 🙄

[urban verge]

It genuinely feels so hopeless here to try and give any kind of feedback if its never commented on or listened to. This place is basically a placebo to make us feel like someone is listening :/

[regal geyser]

For some of us it takes longer to realize that 😄

[neat pier]

With server mergers the players are gifted territory takeover materials as the TC map is reset. Will this happen when they reset the map for everyone?
On the day of the map being reset will all territory services stop?

[nova sierra]

Almost certainly no gift. TC reset is what Scopely will want to encourage participation. We're in same boat here

[kind minnow]

Magically a pack with mats will appear

[neon aspen]

I concur with Goldy, We have not seen one decent hassle free release in some time now. Who were the consultations they speak of with ?Certainly not the players you must have meant " after much consultation with the share holders and upper management we have figured out how to make additional money from TC's" There are going to be many players that are working on their sarcs, Jelly fish and other items that will have to fight for what they already earned all over again. The Game is already feeling unplayable and you want to add additional bugs and crap to sell. You are going to see players leaving as we have recently because they are tired of the bugs. The game has reached a point where it has become a blood sucking parasite that is about to kill it's hosts. Scopely you are failing to keep your customers happy soon all the unhappy customers will start posting what a blood sucking mess this game is then, new people will stop coming and the old players will leave to a better maintained product. You keep this up your days are numbered. Players are not as happy as they used to be the real reason you are still making money is the community and the The star trek name. Your new products are garbage, Starbase ? Forbidden Trash (Tech)? I brought my nephews in to the game recently and they left within the week. You are not listening to your Players stop selling start fixing or people will continue to leave.

[thick owl]

Yes this sucks. No, it won't hurt their player base. New people will always join because its Star Trek. Unless everyone globally gives up on Territories (in our dreams) its here to stay. Does Scopely listen to the average player? Nope. Just get another coffee, walk your dog, have a smoke. We're all addicted here 😂

[haughty sail]

It's come to the point that the game is so buggy, slow and poor connections, on top of their money sucking schemes that while I'll continue to play but less, FOMO can do one and I will be breaking out of this constant loop of attention, refinery button clicks, playing when they want you to play. Not a single purchase will be made so they get no more money and less game time. Progress in game will grind to a halt and until all this is fixed, i'll spend my AAA money on actual AAA titles rather than spending it on a new loop needing more time, more work but no real enjoyment

[thick owl]

Btw giving up on Territory is very liberating. Haven't been on Scopely's time in over a year.

[zenith spade]

The easiest way to fix territory would be to randomize the non-iso mining nodes and services every 3 months. Instead of having 4* ore all of the time, you might get 4* crystal for 3 months. Please also ADD MINING NODES. 10 nodes for 90 players doesn't cut it.

[tribal bane]

Or delete that whole corner of the map😂

[white glacier]

I've filled in 3 customer surveys recently, none of them asked about whether I was happy with Territory or not 🤔

[tribal bane]

They quit sending them to me😂😂😂😂 no problems if you don’t ask those who give honest answers

[opaque blaze]

If they would have just added the new stuff to the existing territory structure, it may have made people want to own territory more and the challenges to territory might go up. taking territory away every 3 months and having to start over is not doable. I've moved out of territory and will learn to live again without it. I feel liberated already. lol

[lime holly]

For all of you whining about PVP, it's working as intended and gives you a fair shot. Not my words, scopely's. Totally fair when my 25M ship goes against a 500M ship. 🤦‍♂️
"We appreciate the time you've taken to approach us with these concerns, but while we do understand your feelings towards PVP combat, keep in mind that this is still an intended aspect of the game and that our game's system does take into account your level, allowing only a certain range of commanders to have the ability to engage you in combat. This is so that you're still matched with other players who you can have a fair shot of winning against."

[tribal bane]

Yep then the whale alliances and groups would have new things to bully for

[tepid bramble]

Yeah, once this grinds my research to a halt? I am not going to waste my time and effort trying to struggle to get it back. I am in slash and burn mode, spending everything I have stored for future use and doing dailies and done. No extra time, no extra effort, disengaging from the game and becoming a ghost more than the sheep dog for my fleet. They really know how to drive away folks. Because their price points are unsustainable for a “normal” person. And their product doesn’t warrant the time or money. Not anymore, not that it ever really did 🤷‍♂️ (and by price points, I don’t just mean money, I mean mat costs, rss costs and TIME costs)

[opaque blaze]

the only thing I can say is the person that wrote that response does NOT play star trek fleet command

[tribal bane]

Ummm it’s now a 1.2 billion power whale G5 ship against a 25 mil😂😂😂😂

[lime holly]

I specificially asked if they thought it was fair with the example I provided and received nothing but non-answers. Just kept saying it's as designed, blah blah

[tepid bramble]

None of them do, not even Eco. They don’t even know what anything does, let alone the time/money sink it is. They just tap keys, flip switches and look at power points of profit models. 🙄.

[steady forum]

Does anyone use MEMU emulator?

[tribal bane]

They love armadas so much make it possible to run madas on G5/6 player ships

[narrow bridge]

@tacit obsidian can you ask the devs to look at the Voyager field training commerce tokens goal. 100k seems far too much. If you refine max chests then you get 300 every 3 days. So complete in 1000 days! Surely that is far too long for something that is supposed to be training.

[paper jackal]

Territory reset every three months is too much. Needs to be twice a year max.

[rough belfry]

You can get more token from hunting the survey ships for the loot chests. But the drop rate of the chest is slim. I think I maybe get 1 chest in 15 kills

[tepid bramble]

This is intended and he won’t look into any further. (Nor will he admit what I am about to say, again). It is a scam. They want you to spend those initial prime particles on the early research, which will take the value packs out of your store, thereby forcing you to spend more. They never intend for anyone to actually be able to get the full set in a timely manner. (Honestly I doubt they intend anyone to get it at all, as the game probably will NOT be around by the time the first person is actually able to get them.)

[fallen spear]

Considering that the game quite obviously is a 5 yr long Betatest by now, a whopping 3 yrs for training seem to be reasonable 😉😂

[pallid merlin]

So, instead of making something fun that people want to do, they are just going to force you do something whether you like it or not. Great job $copely. 👏

[edgy harness]

Game is losing players at a pretty solid rate again, and the announcements only are making the new content look less and less inviting to existing players. At this point it’s hard to say the game will exist in anything close to its current status and population in a years time, let alone three.

[cerulean snow]

The new territory is abysmal. The lag involved when trying to take and hold systems makes it demoralizing which is why territory has stagnated. No one wants to deal with the insanity. Good job making this game less fun

[stiff latch]

I gotta say this is a mistake on Scopely's part. Yes we've wanted updates and changes to TC. But, as usual, you've gone and made it whale friendly. So Monaveen bp generators, 3* territory, chroniton particles 5 in the free track with another 100 in the paid track, better buffs in higher territories vice spread out like they are now through all the territories. I used to love this game, lately it just seems like work and this last release with a one-trick pony ship just seems more money-grubbing than anything else. I'm losing my faith in you guys,

[shadow aspen]

Good point, the lag, crashing, 30+ second battles are all reasons toward why tc is stagnant, and to do this new reset system? Tc will end up being the reason for more players leaving and less revenue for scopely. 🤷🏻‍♂️ The biggest problem though is that so many still spend large amounts even though they have the problems. Must have new ships, must have new researches and officers, etc. If everyone said “no, fix it first and then we will spend again”, then things would get sorted fast. You cant always blame scopely, its the wallet warriors that are half the problem. If your electricity kept glitching, stopping, running too slow to power your tv or fridge, would you keep paying for it and say nothing? 🤷🏻‍♂️ This was an amazing fun and community strong game, but the decline over the last few years has shown constant. It is sad to watch a favourite game slowly kill itself because its all about profit not quality. 😔

[azure pelican]

You can also get them from summoning the ships that drop messages in the token systems using "Delta Quadrant Borg Coordinates" . The drop rate for the chest on those seems higher but then this obviously reduces the number of hostiles you can summon for the 8472 loot.

[surreal mica]

Yet another day of asking @tacit obsidian to reply to my DM that I was directed to send by a mod and by @royal solar...

[undone stag]

The announcement should have said
"We've listened to the players, but decided to go in a different direction"

[steady plover]

----Friday 9/21----

Is'nt Friday the 22nd????

[cosmic knoll]

they we looking at the expected armada pack purchases being around 921 ... the number of whales still left in the game

[mossy sparrow]

Scopely - I've no problem with PvP, although your pay-to-win officers this month don't help - I just have issues with the time it will take to retake many 3* territories. A reset every 3 months means that some will go unoccupied for nearly 1/4 of the time. That's just stupid.

[lost forge]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-stupid-as-stupid-does-quote-gif-16898549

[rich belfry]

Is pointless the event ... if you have all avatars and frames! make points .... For nothing...

[north spire]

So in the last week at least my gameplay has been really glitchy and choppy. Transition between screens in gameplay is noticeably longer or even causes me to need to reset. The Star Trek fleet command black screen for instance, getting stuck on a lot more than usually did before. I’m using iOS to play game. Seems others in my alliance and server are experiencing this very poor gameplay. More than usual that is.

[upbeat cosmos]

So this has been happening lately. I have to reboot everytime it happens.

[nova sierra]

Support continue to lie and gaslight players about bugged events, claiming that things were correct and that the players are mistaken about things they personally saw. bunch of psychopathic compulsive liars

[wooden spire]

Boring. Tedious. Aggravating. Repetitive. Frustrating. There’s no fun, this game relies on addiction, but not addiction to enjoyment. This game is the virtual equivalent of smoking.

[nova sierra]

Today's Independent Content Creator Post: The Dumbs of Field Training.

See images below. You can pretend I'm yapping away for 30 minutes with fancy graphics if you want. Maybe some groovy music. I'm partial to Pink Floyd.

Comfortably Numb seems suitable.

[cyan portal]

This is still not a thing

[nova sierra]

Every time I look in the event store, I contemplate the value of virtual stuff that nobody wants, and nobody wants to pay for.

If we had real life like that, we'd have a lot of stuff in our homes that we didn't want, that nobody else wants (because you can't even yard sale it away)...

Avatars and frames. I played 5 years for that sort of anniversary? That's rotten.

[steady plover]

and what are we gonna do with these 5yr credits......

probably more useless avatars.

[fallen spear]

🙄 Same 💩 over and over again 😡

[limber mesa]

freeman seems unreasonably unfair to explorers.
battleship - burn - freeman becomes stronger
interceptor - hull breach - freeman becomes stronger
explorer - morale - enemy freeman becomes stronger and wrecks your ship.

freeman trigger should be reversed for morale.

[cyan portal]

They count for entries into that sweepstakes thing

[steady plover]

refreash my memory good sir..... what sweepstakes thing?

[cyan portal]

Trip to LA for a screening of first contact is the grand prize...lemme find ya the link

https://gleam.io/fJW7i/star-trek-fleet-command-5th-anniversary-giveaway

[untold zephyr]

Any word on if the voyager field training for commerce token spend will be decreased to say...10k? Instead of a 3yr grind?

[vocal widget]

This has been answered many times. It will never be reduced. It was always intended to be next to impossible to complete. They gave us a taste of the dolomite particles. The choice is to wait 2.5 years or get the visa card out. Asking eco over and over again will not change the answer given by him and multiple mods here in the last month.

[steady plover]

ok thanks...

so more useless stuff 😂

[silver bramble]

Why is it allowed that someone can destroy our dreams all the time? 🤣🤣🤣

[vocal widget]

Everyone has a special talent. 😎

[midnight pilot]

Freeman lorca, hgw.
How is it unfair to explorers... Hull breach still triggers freeman whatever ship she's on

[limber mesa]

which forces everyone to abandon morale for pvp.
shuts down interceptor strike crew harder than the other strike teams, and means the enterprise ability is useless in pvp.

[arctic knoll]

At least the first one won't take any time to complete

[nova sierra]

In a similar way that interceptor users with Freeman abandon use of full Dukat crew and Battleships abandon La’an (no synergy). Freeman on explorer would be similar. No state is exclusive for ship type, this misconception comes the G3 epic ship abilities, but generally HB works better on interceptors. If anything explorer has an extra option that the interceptors lack in that it can use a hybrid of Weyoun (more extra shots) with Freeman (c) and Kirk for moral.