💣-arena-feedback

[river temple]

Do something about this awful matchmaking!!! Seriously, how are we supposed to enjoy this game? Even the event won't help people play under these conditions. Personally, this will be my last Friday. Ten games, and ten terrible games at that, where there's no fun to be had because we get crushed... Don't you like your game? Do you really want everyone to leave? Seriously, it's the only explanation for sabotaging your game and everything good about it. The only thing you're good at is coming up with new €100 pack ideas; otherwise, there's nothing worthwhile on your resume.

[hidden oasis]

Sooo... Why does the arena event end at the exact same time as arena closes... Even though you can still be in a match...

Lost a milestone because of yet another ill thought out scopely original idea ™️

[night stone]

Match making is still a joke.

[pastel skiff]

arena was fine til windows mouse driver died. Took 7 minutes to get back in!

until around 5pm est no problems. Matchmaking fine. No lag. Then around 5 matchmaking went to he ll (i started facing 5x my power), lag bad, got kicked out

[ocean hatch]

Really wish match making in arena was even remotely close.

[night stone]

Thats every time I play, match making is so bad I wish there was a forfeit option.

[night stone]

I hate arenas so much. It takes so long to get in a match then I am almost always put in a match with ZERO chance of winning. Then there is no way to forfeit so I don’t waste time just watching people ten ops levels higher than me and my team run up the score.

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[minor ice]

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
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.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
.
2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

[spice fjord]

Another weekly post for a Quit Button. Really wish I didn't have to waste my super limited arena time waiting for a player I can't scratch to lead their team to 1000 pts.

[chilly trout]

The lag and matchmaking tonight is abysmal. Did you guys migrate the servers to Windows Vista machines last weekend?

[night stone]

No to a Commodore 64.

[past sleet]

PLEASSE FIX ops level match making. Being paired up with ops levels that we cant have join the team we limited to is pointless

[austere forge]

i cant get anyobe to actually start with. Just make them solo matches

[night stone]

I don’t think they know how.

[plucky flint]

Great job scopely

[wooden agate]

💩

[spice fjord]

Yay 2 matches barely at the end and match 2 vs a 3.1b power. None of my team bothered to send. Great work

[winged sand]

We should be issued a compo chest for that 💩 show of arena stability yesterday...

I don't know about anyone else but i didn't get bugger all Arena Emblems because it just rubber banded and moved your ships in the wrong direction.
Normally the match is over with 5 minutes left on the timer but so many times it went down to the full 10 minutes.

I am getting more and more increasingly angry with Scopley not focusing on the current content and making it a more stable and enjoyable gameplaying experience becasue they rather throw more and more content into the game as they see that as the money maker

[fathom trellis]

Have you seen the new bug. Where the swap out teammates after a match is made? So awesome

[warm nimbus]

How about adding @dusky hornet a way to watch other’s matches? Or a universe chat in the arenas menu where players can communicate? Seems to me this would increase the interest in the event.

[warm nimbus]

How about two day? One day free for all, second day tournament style. Allowing teams to challenge other teams during free for all? Squad search? I normally charge for my time.

[full lagoon]

Then with all that frustration. It gets worse by being matched to 11 matches like this in a row.

[tribal hornet]

: )

https://share.google/K7ouL7nY3wq7XPzYA

[cyan void]

[safe frost]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-pikachu-pikachu-skill-issue-gif-3559280283046901335

[cyan void]

indeed

[timid parcel]

Feature request: allow me to leave the terran faction so I don't see it in the faction store.

[worn bone]

Arena loads too slowly, the arena opponents are unbalanced, the ships need several attack commands before they finally attack, get the server under control already!

[robust yoke]

Hi .... You're asking for feedback in-game. Look at the unplayable arena. The lag in the arena is so bad it's unplayable. Ships are teleporting through the systems. This has nothing to do with our internet connection. The problem is with you. You don't seem to want to, or can't, address the problem. But the amount of garbage being delivered here is unbearable.

[pastel skiff]

As per usual, matching power is terrible. I am a 68 going against a 16+ B ops 73. I yelled at him

Arena attacks aren't even displaying for me. The ships are there then they are dead. No fight. Is that a G7 UC ability to kill ships without a fight? <@&509690795536941056>

SEcond atttempt to match. Game froze during the match process. Restarted. Same exact bad match

I guess that no one wants to do arena unless you have the biggest ships in your bracket. To get the same exact match repeatedly...

[young musk]

What kind of match up is this? How is this an even fight?

[minor ice]

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
.
.
.
The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
.
2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
.
3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
.
4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

[zealous tinsel]

not off to a great start. lol that's not distracting at all lol

[night stone]

It’s time for the weekly request for a forfeit button since apparently you can’t or won’t fix match making.

[pastel skiff]

Some unfair matches for us. 1 good match. Another crash

[spice fjord]

Another week. Another plea for a Quit Button.

First up a 64 whale with a max Relativity (that's 25b power for those of you unaware) and all the newest shiny officers past t1.

Second match a 67 at 2.7b total power. I'm a 65 at 1.6 and the highest power on the team. I got nothing for this. I just want to bail and try again but nooooo I gotta afk and wait for the opposition to score 1000 pts.

Oh hey match three another 67 I can't do anything against. Sweet. Way to waste 25 minutes of my SEVERELY limited arena time. Let me QUIT

[fast sierra]

@silk turtle READY your arena

[warm nimbus]

I thought the matches were much better. Players are getting much better in general. I think a forfeit option is a fair idea. Most PvP games have that option. Maybe after 3 minutes allow a team to resign so long as the majority votes for it.

[spice fjord]

Lol finally manage match 4 and it's a 61 with a maxed Relativity I can't scratch. And you guys wonder why people don't arena...

[old lantern]

What if they don't know what they are doing? Then you have to wait for the timer to expire. 🫣

[old lantern]

Clue that arenas aren't fun or worth anyone's time: no one does it except during the Friday event. If it were adding anything to the game, it would be available and desired all week long. A half-decent idea, poorly executed. Is that the slogan on the wall in the breakroom at STFC HQ? Can anyone confirm?

[spice fjord]

Yeah either way I'm burning 7-12 minutes per match for nothing. With arena running 8 hours a week and EXACTLY during my work shift, I don't exactly have the time to burn.

[night stone]

Or is it that their seeing that there is zero chance to win so why bother. I know I have done this.

[true lava]

How is this fair @muted badger, this needs to be fixed

that one guy has our entire teams power, and a vengeance none of us can even make a dent in, paired twice now

not even gunna try lol

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[toxic fjord]

if you want more balanced pairings, just leave the pairing queue after 8 or 9 seconds. If you haven't paired by then you are searching a larger range for opponents. Jump back in and try again. It takes some patience. Pairings were far worse prior to the implementation of public squads.

If your squad is weak, maybe an unbalanced pairing will favor you.

[sly violet]

they really need to add the total power of the teams in the matchmaking... a team with 15B cant face a team that one single player have 14B

[mystic plume]

Arena is currently unplayable due to lag. I warp my ships in. The game lags out for a minute or 2. all my ships are dead.

[barren cairn]

Hmmm seems like the other players don’t have lag in that case

Seems like a problem with your game not the others

[mystic plume]

yeah, potentially my wifi is playing up

its funny how I just assumed the problem was in game 🤣

[barren cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-moira-never-assume-never-gif-13159862

[languid geode]

5seconds delay is not what scopley call a lag, thats smooth running for them

and permanent crashes are just for you to keep your game uptodate

[olive harness]

<@&509690795536941056>fix this goddam lag

[low socket]

Won 4 times. And all 4 time my rank went from "350 to silver 1" to "50 to silver 1". Where is my 1200 xp?

[dense tiger]

Huh.

[pseudo grove]

Still imbalanced matching 🤬

[agile forum]

one of the worst arenas ever

socre lagging

matching poor

rubber banding all over

I think you should probably look into this if you wanna keep ppl playing your game

[agile forum]

total ops level on the left = 194
total ops level on the right = 198
seems balanced to me, right? 😄

[manic jacinth]

I had a similar issue. After two consecutive wins, the score did not change a bit, and after a loss my score decreases as if I'd lost two matches at once

Can you please investigate this <@&509690795536941056>

[scarlet knoll]

Can someone explain to me how this is possible, if the rules say +/- 4 OPS levels.... @gritty cobalt <@&509690795536941056>

[low socket]

2 wins arrived. Guess it is scoring lag. Good game

[manic jacinth]

Thanks for the update👍🏼

[scarlet knoll]

Matchmaking allows ±4 Ops Level differences for balance, and impulse speed is capped at 275.

That is on the official scopley site: https://scopely.helpshift.com/hc/en/19-star-trek-fleet-command/faq/8115-the-arena/

[clever lark]

Yeah, your team +/- 4 ops level vs your opponent team +/- 4 ops level
Matchmaking can theoretically still be ops 40 to 44 vs 76 to 80

[scarlet knoll]

Then it should be worded better. Matchmaking does not imply your team, it implys your team vs what you get matched

[winged sand]

OMG how can we play arena in this !!

We are all stuck in combat full time! <@&509690795536941056>

[dense tiger]

Arenas are not working, they keep sticking at searching for an opponent 😰

[winged sand]

Shocking

[gaunt fossil]

same

[twilit geode]

So, giga lag?

[weary sinew]

Same, no joy. I give up

[twilit geode]

I could not even start an armada 🫤

[near isle]

Yep arena is completely bust can see people join group and then when you can the match up is broken

[gusty canopy]

You can't. Scopely is a joke. The broken matchmaking, the lag, it's just unplayable at this point 🤣

[sinful swan]

30min like this

Joining another band, disbanded, make. A new public, same errors

[twilit geode]

The same

I think it’s beer time.

[rocky crypt]

Lag is causing match-making to break.

[weary storm]

Lag + the normal Arena issues. Should have been cancelled but it's Scopely.

[iron hare]

Is anyone actually coming to the arena?

Or can we just forget about the events?!

[wraith turtle]

having issues login back in after Arena Match

[iron hare]

I spent over an hour in various queues, encountering recurring error messages...

Even if it worked now, there wouldn't be enough time to finish anything!

[sinful swan]

I couldnt finished arenas event...

[sly violet]

this makes no sense... one player have the power of a whole team... thats why scopely should start considering the total power of the team in the match making

[copper notch]

Total power won't work either. You could have 2 people with 1 mill power and 1 person with 200 mill against 3 people with only 60 mill each. 60 mill isnt going to win against a 200 mill, no matter how many of you there are

[pastel skiff]

Oddly I am seeing the more people playing the worse the matching. My team: 66-68-71. Their 70-71-22. The power is 1:3

[desert tundra]

this whole matchmaking for arenas are horrible

arenas are horrible. half the time teammates are afk. then you get matched up against someone 5 ops higher with ships you cant even scratch

[full lagoon]

Another 12/12 horrendous match making.

[summer loom]

lag, multiple client restarts, ships stuck in battles permanently, ships stuck in warp permanently, phantom ships, phantom armadas that never clear

[night stone]

This is the weekly add a I QUIT button.

[spice fjord]

Quit. Button. This is such a waste of my minimal time. It's like what, 8 hours into the event I finally get into a match and I can't POSSIBLY fight my opponent. Just let me quit!

[small seal]

GS 31 ability breaks 2 often in arena's and I feel bad for losing maybe add Exit button to speed up the process? Also I dont really like the recently added title thing but if you add one called Arenas Loser I'll feel pride wearing it.

[dense olive]

Hi scopely. It’s me. Again. A player that really enjoyed arena early on. The problem is, beyond the challenging matchmaking, you made the rewards for losing SO BAD that it only incentivized winning. And getting your rear kicked repeatedly is frustrating enough, especially knowing your rank is getting crushed and your rewards are terrible to boot. And then you made the exact same mistake as if you learned nothing with the sms.

So unsurprisingly what has happened is the middle and lower tier players have completely given up on the feature. Losses hurt so bad why bother? And all we are left with is the most elite players across the spectrum gaming the matchmaking to repeatedly crush any poor average joe that makes the mistake of trying. At this point the only “good matchups” are elite on elite, a tiny fraction of the player base.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[low socket]

I haven't received all the ranking xp I got yesterday.

[terse beacon]

Do i need to say more, Again thank you for converting to to a free to play player

[terse beacon]

Lets fix the game before you you add more trash? no i get Scoplyed again

[spice fjord]

Sweet. Had to burn 15 minutes of AFK leaders we can't get cleaned out just to be matched against another bigger player I can't fight. Love this stuff.

[sleek cosmos]

I stopped doing arenas, that is so out of touch.

[rapid compass]

Unable to join any arena on 6th Feb due to matchmaking crashing out with an error

[sly violet]

The deal is to keep the OP range and add the total power. Combine both info. Let’s say something like +1B-1B

[cyan void]

yea sooo from what one of the mods said like weeks ago, you could check but im a bit lazy to scroll, the +/- 4 only applies to your team and during matching u can meet basically anyone else

[safe frost]

#💣-arena-feedback message
#💣-arena-feedback message

two of the worst examples i've seen

[twilit geode]

Oh, so, I lost 3k arena rankings, because of the errors with match making. Thanks 😤

[thorn thicket]

I havent played arena for over a month or two. Guess it's time to step back in next week 😁

[desert tundra]

I have won 1 arena since I started doing them. That was like 6 weeks ago

[copper notch]

Still doesnt work. I'm ops 46, I see ops 49 at 50, 60 mill power, and ops 45 at 140 mill power. Even ops 42 or 43 at 15, 20 mill.

There is no way an ops 49 at 50 mill is gonna beat even an ops 46 at 110, 120 mill power. 49 does not have any specialty ships or anything that a 46 doesnt have either.

[winged sand]

How long does it take to issue a compo chest with the Fist of the Empire SMS rewards and 8400 Arena Emblems to replace the ones we were not able to gain this week

[twilit geode]

They said it will come when they will confirm the game is stable.

If they say it will be stable, then it will be. There is no reason to remind about that every half year!

[olive harness]

With this lag expect it by easter..... 2030

[sly violet]

scopely would need to setup a percentage of power... something like 20%, maybe. that would affect all matching. so if u are 46, ur range is op 42-50, lets say ur team is 42-46-50 u would have the total power of the team around 400M, if the 20% rule existed, u could face other teams with 480M total or 320M total

[desert tundra]

that would be amazing if they did something like that. make it so us g4 ppl dont have to fight g5 ppl

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[autumn hound]

it is not possible to complete 1 of todays v'ger dailies as the wrong kind of v'ger are in the system the daily says gorn but it is hurok in the systems

[young musk]

How do you square matchups with players who are on servers from 2018 against servers started in 2024?

[thorn thicket]

Pay to win baby! Buy and rush your way to the top.

[spring sage]

thanks to let me join

is this okay report place

[fiery star]

Seems legit

[spring sage]

i dont know

[worldly hinge]

anyone in apac queueing arenas? 👀 30 mins no match

[cyan void]

can we stop being forced into the arena system if we dont press "enter"

[grand fjord]

What difference does it make when servers started?
You play against your peers in ops and strength.
(Not a dig, just really would like to know if there is something to know 🖖🏻)

[olive harness]

Arena is unplayable again today.... Too much lag

[agile forum]

mistery match? 😄

[safe frost]

a 2018 experienced let's say ops 50 had more time to accumulate power than a 2024 one. of course not everyone knows what they're doing but that's normal.

[safe frost]

can we swap?

[regal pilot]

unable to start armadas, game resfresh causes game to crash and then ofc leads to losing the match💩

[spice edge]

Also if you have an Alliance with stronger older acounts you'll get trickle down benefits, like Surge, RALBs, and Tournament.

[twilit geode]

Are arenas as bad as last week?

[proven cosmos]

yes

[twilit geode]

Thanks, so… Beer time.

[winged sand]

Hows arena this week? any point even attempting to play it?

[proven cosmos]

not Wörth, Matchmaking is horrible

[low socket]

What is missing?

[winged sand]

even if you manage to get into arena they still mismatch the battles
total ops 201 vs 207

[halcyon kelp]

👌

[sweet garnet]

[rocky crypt]

Getting kicked out of the arena system and then it is unclickable so unable to resend ships. Restart required.

[summer loom]

lag is TERRIBLE I can barely do arena

multiple restarts

[summer loom]

frozen battles

[spice fjord]

Still need that quit button!

[summer loom]

lag glitch out and I couldn't reset the matching before it gave us this one. Pretty outmatched on this.

[minor ice]

That 67 in the first match is bigger than our team.

Confine. Matches. To. Shipyard. Brackets.

You buffoonish potatoes.

Speaking of which...
.
.
.

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
.
.
.
The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
.
2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
.
3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
.
4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056>
Can we not get stuff to work correctly?
negative timers that make me have to restart my game during an arena match... it's already bad enough 3 ops 67s get matched with 3 ops 71s... now this is an added issue....

[spark cradle]

arenas lag is bad

[zealous tinsel]

lag i'm accustomed to. negative timers that force a restart and ships die that cause me to use an insta on that i occasionally pay for... i am not used to that. i do not like that 🤣

[rocky quail]

I echo this 100%. I have tried Arenas for the first time in a while and now I know why I haven’t. I’m 0-12. All decided because of mis-matching. Over in the first 30 seconds. And as a bonus, I loose ranking because of something totally out of the players control. I won’t try again until changes are made. Basically once you see your going to loose, you get to stare at a screen for 8 minutes. Awesome.

[terse beacon]

i don't think i need to say anything other than again thank you for converting me to a free to play player.

[zealous tinsel]

anyone detect any issues there

[barren cairn]

Arena was so unplayable due to lag that my squad lost two matches with me unable to even participate because I was stuck on loading screens

[full lagoon]

Just wasted a hour doing arenas. During that horrible experience. I had one match where ship locked up in battle. Waited two minutes it still wouldn’t unengage. Reboot, to the match lost.

Another match locked up with a black screen and spinning circle. To eventually get back to a lost match.

Horrible lag, ships not engaging in attack.

One match I attacked someone. My ships blew up. To be sent back to the dock without needing repairs. So I could send them back immediately.
Your game is COMPLETELY UNSTABLE.

I’m recommending to our whole alliance stop spending any money. The game is almost over

[spark cradle]

💩

[full lagoon]

The new normal

[low socket]

Yesterday earned portion of rank xp still not arrived

[thorn thicket]

Haven't played arena in months. There's more lag than usual. Matchmaking fair for my matches. Lots of pre 66 ops with max relativities. They are tough but manageable. Players have gotten better with team tactics. Would still like to see the event be 24hrs.

[tiny heart]

Since raiding and base defence is no longer a thing after monaveen, I was hoping for some other fun pvp action. It is not 👎 no balance in team matches and no surrender button. Pls give us a sigma miner so raiding becomes fun again and we'll get more fun base defence pvp

[warm nimbus]

So, is STFC ready to move arenas back to Monday?

[short crater]

another day and still same problems bad matchmaking even worse lags and so on and so on and so on

[mystic plume]

terrible lag, stuck on loading screens, booted from game, barely playable. definitely no fun

[viral condor]

I have to restart every arena when the loading screen comes... fix it please. it's totally annoying

[timid parcel]

takes about a minute before you get the option to attack an armada. laaag

can this just become a 3 ships each, send em in, last man standing is the winner. life is too short for this current format

[timid parcel]

let me appeal to your wallets here scopely, the only way to do well in arenas is to hard camp an ops and not move up. You want everybody at higher ops, arenas will prevent this for those who are small/medium spenders and actually want to do well here.
The whole matchmaking and format is working against your current ethos and is for me (lag and performance aside) the biggest failing of this game currently, it takes forever, doesn't work, doesn't provide any fun as a fair match is never had.

Every friday I have to do this for the terran credits and every friday, whilst restarting the game between rounds because it's crashed on the loading screen I wonder why I'm not playing something else.

[mighty turret]

It's just a Vengeance parade now, totally pointless

[mighty turret]

Please, change the SMS points for a loss from 1 to 2. Racking up 12 losses takes forever and makes me want to quit the game. 6 losses is demoralising but doable

[rocky osprey]

Every time I switch from main to arena server the game gets stuck at 5% until I hard restart it

[safe frost]

same here

[errant forge]

LAG LAG RESTART LAG LAG RESTART

LAG LAG RESTART LAG LAG RESTART

LAG LAG RESTART LAG LAG RESTART

[mighty raft]

please can you sort out game, i'm having to log out and back in for every arena match

[modest jasper]

Weshalb muss da spiel vor dem Eintritt in die Area neu gestartet werden? Weshalb konnte ich plötzlich nicht mehr in die Arena? .....

Woher bekomme ich den Speed Buff den einige Spieler haben?

[glossy cobalt]

Every time i get into a match i need to restart game so it loads in. Damn annoying

[median root]

yeah, me2. at least it is a new bug 😉

[flat basalt]

Same for me tonight^

[mossy granite]

Same here

Just to summarize, now its not just waiting up to 10 mins for an unfair match to finish to get some terran credits, i even have to restart the game to experience it every time ...

[twilit geode]

For each arena I have to restart the client. I’m on iOS.

[clever lion]

@dusky hornet great job (as always) 'fixing' stuff..............😡😡

[night stone]

My first match of the day reminds , CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A SURRENDER BUTTON since you can’t or won’t fix match making.

[spice fjord]

Thanks Scopely. QUIT. BUTTON.

[rancid wedge]

yep need restart every time

[subtle dagger]

The restarts are extra bad today... But we also have had a lot of stalled reloads when loading in, having to manually close the game and restart. It gets stuck, at least for me, when that happens at 5% Loading Endpoints

[lofty epoch]

This is a perfectly good match. Your chance of winning is 0 unless 71 has a phone call. 🙂

[spice fjord]

He just bounced his Krencha around. The 67s were both weak but that Krencha was untouchable for our team so nada.

[lofty epoch]

Today was just like that. We only won 1 out of about 10.

I started with gold, I'm in Iron Two. 🙂

[safe frost]

if it's just one ship it's easy to outrun/kite

[lofty epoch]

The other is that the NSEA speed crew was overtaken by a snail. 🙂

[spice fjord]

Only if they're... Not bright. Is no bright ok Mods?

All they have to do is sit by a circle and deny you mada points.

[safe frost]

Yeah but if it’s just one ship you and your team can start two at once. Sneak armadas in the last 10 seconds, fly in top and bottom. If I have an overpowered enemy on my hands (almost every match) I just ignore them and fly to their teammates while doing armadas. It’s much harder if they have two ships but one is easy to manage even if they do know what they’re doing

[zealous tinsel]

stuck in warp TWICE restart the first time got one of my ships destroyed

this is also a thing that seems to be happening now. i think this is the 3rd time

[tame plaza]

fix this please

[minor ice]

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
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2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

Bonus: login issues when trying to enter arena, and in some cases being locked out of the game altogether. Smooth, Scopely.

[plucky flint]

another epic fail week for arenas, having to reboot game to enter every match. 6x so far

[grand fjord]

It was laggy but we had a great fun and some lovely victories.
So all in all - great as usually 💪🤘🏻🖖🏻

[young musk]

Can ya’ll just nerf the relativity already and narrow ops brackets to 3+/-

[minor ice]

Relativity isn't the problem, it's matchmaking brackets not being aligned with shipyard cutoffs in general.

[young musk]

No it’s a huge problem to have ops 51 players buy their way to 3B relativity

[minor ice]

Well, TODAY the problem is "can't log into the arena server and/or game" 🙄

[minor ice]

That is 100% achievable as f2p, has nothing to do with spending.

There are tons of problems with arenas. I post about it literally every week.

[young musk]

True but when you just start the game 6mo ago how else did you get there?

[minor ice]

But that ain't one of them.

[minor ice]

...if you just started six months ago, you haven't invested the same amount of time as others who got there f2p?

That just makes sense.

ANYONE at 51 can have a big Relativity.

[young musk]

Yeah either buy buying it or possibly spending all arc tokens on parts

The latter I’m not so sure because it takes awhile to upgrade past T8

[minor ice]

The Relativity is one of the few ground-leveling ships in arenas. It's not going up against a 56 with a Sanctus when you're still just 51.

[young musk]

It’s possible but if you go to 56 with a max Sanctus you’re not going to take on a 60 with an epic

Which most likely you’ll get matched against because matchmaking sucks

[minor ice]

Yeah...which is the crux of my argument above
#💣-arena-feedback message

But a Relativity is going to give you a better chance at punching up against the next tier of faction ships.

[young musk]

Yeah but I don’t think it should is my point

Like make arena more FKR focused

[minor ice]

It's already too heavily FKR-focused, since matchmaking ISN'T limited to the same shipyard tiers.

[young musk]

I see your point

[tame plaza]

arena is BROKEN

[minor ice]

Oh, hey, it managed to get even more borked. Now whenever I return from an arena, it wants me to click through the mission text for EVERY MISSION IN MY LOG.

That is, until it inexplicably tries to load me into my home server again, and I have to restart the app. Again.

[leaden urchin]

It's also possible to get a 4B rela with lvl 55

[meager moat]

I keep getting stuck on the loading screen when loading into the arena. restarting the game seemed to let me in. then once the match is done and I'm back in my server, it starts loading the mission logs for all the missions I've accepted so I have to either click through all of them or restart the game again

[leaden urchin]

Yeah had the same just restart ur game

[long jewel]

yeah. I'm having that screen happen 3-5 times entering and then 3-5 times exiting a match

that's a lot of closing the app when time's ticking

[leaden urchin]

I know

It's the special Arena pi** off Feature ^^

[tame plaza]

FIX ARENA

[young musk]

I got my weekly points for chests and got out. Too frustrating to continue.

[quiet solstice]

the concede button sponsored by american express Black card

[young musk]

They should also make it so you don’t get immediately matched with the same team

[coral jolt]

tier locks on arena rank PLEASE, fear of de-ranking is the source of at least 50% of arena frustration

[candid gate]

this matchup 🙁 ... waited a few minutes and got these fellas again

[tame plaza]

FIX ARENA

[terse beacon]

And again THANK YOU for converting me to a free to play player.

[summer loom]

The client stalls and needs a manual restart before and after every single match. That's kinda new.

[vagrant horizon]

quality

[wise jacinth]

game crashes everytime i leave and join arena

[craggy rover]

<@&509690795536941056> arena matching mechanism has been just bad to a point that it’s hard to enjoy.

[barren cairn]

Every time we got matched everyone was stuck at 5% and had to restart. That’s unacceptable. Please fix this it looks widespread

[barren cairn]

To be fair that actually looks pretty decent considering you’re almost all platinum lol I believe that contributes

[craggy rover]

Platinum is useless for a 60 facing 70.

And not all for sure

[barren cairn]

You had a 67 which puts you in range

Also how long did you wait in the matchmaking queue

The longer you wait in the queue the farther outside your range the matches go

[spice fjord]

Hahahahahaha no. Quit button for the love of.... Cmon guys I had barely enough time for 4 total matches and none were viable.

[wise jacinth]

EVERY TIME I JOIN A MATCH and FINISH A MATCH THIS STOPS LOADING HERE

[craggy rover]

I understand the range, but I think matching algorithm should factor in total power as well. The entire power comparison just doesn’t make sense at all. It took less than 10s to get matching in this case

[craggy rover]

This happened a lot as well when we were doing arena today. Just so bad

[thorn thicket]

Make arena a 24hr event.

[wise jacinth]

move it out of friday

[raven egret]

Joined two yesterday. One never got past the loading screen. The other was lost with me seeing the loading screen for the duration of the Arena time): 1 vs 1292 points

[timid notch]

had the same problem with the loading screen yesterday and did 14 games! Every time i had to close the screen and restart.

[sullen crane]

This is my least favourite part of the game - it lags and doesn't load right half the time, and you go against people with all the bells and whistles. Also, your faction rewards suffer if you don't win. I haven't bothered with it for months. It's dumb to have to rely on others to move your own faction. No thanks. It's just another headache in a long line of headaches in the game that I choose to avoid.

[spring pumice]

I used to like arenas a lot. Then I finished pulling the premium mirror dust available in the faction store, and I haven't done an arena since. Between the lag, the poor matchmaking (no ELO-like method in 2026, with such high spenders?), and the poor rewards in the faction store, I have no interest at all in this (once-beloved for me) mechanic.

[gloomy rover]

if you collected all possible Prem Dust then only reason to do arenas is for these 2 chests

[spring pumice]

In my experience, the payout is too low (the chances of the golden speedups are close to none) to care about them.

[gloomy rover]

I have hit the 3 day one a few times. Anything that equals less time spent grinding in MU is a bonus for me

although with Arenas now on fridays i miss about 95% of them 😄

[spring pumice]

In the time you spend grinding in MU 70 (one single trip) you probably get more speedups than a week's worth of pulls in the Terran store... and that's after several hours spent in arenas.

[lilac lichen]

Way past time #freetheterranfactionstore

[patent slate]

The Terran faction store should be based on your Terran rep, not your arena ranking. With arena mis-matching and technical problems, it's not hard to lose rank, and consequently, items of the store.

[warm nimbus]

Another lame Monday with nothing to do. Sure wish there was an exciting PvP event to fill the void… 👀

[weary storm]

Just go kill some ships 😈

[warm nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-17677371

[gritty cloak]

matching algorithm still resulting in hugely lopsided match ups.

[worldly hinge]

🤣

[soft pewter]

How hard is it to match players of the same level and a similar power rating. This is rediculous and I honestly just close the game when I get matched like this

[summer loom]

That is the worst match I have ever seen.

[safe frost]

Could have been worse lol (check the image above)

[signal berry]

working as intended

there is no matchmaking algorithm in place - everyone who shows up for arena gets "matched" for the fight, ignoring (total + individual) strengh.

This is rediculous and I honestly just close the game when I get matched like this
I think releasing an unfinished addition to the game (as arenas and everything else is) keeps pushing every player away from the game, the will ignoring broken stuff totally and then the new additions are getting abandoned by the devs.

I assume arenas (and pretty much everything else) already got abandoned by the dev team or they simply dont invest dev time on improvements/bug fixing because new stuff™ needs to get pushed out of the door as fast as possible (failure by the management, lead game dev).

[grand beacon]

it matches by lvl and arena rang it would be pointless to match base on invidual strenth evry one would just q with low lvl ships plus if you didint spend time investing in youre acout why should you get the easy way i spended ages just lousing all night long to get mirror dust and invested hevly in my pvp stats if im matcched against my lvl players i will win 99% of the matches and its the way it should be start on low lvl where it dont mater much and move folward from there

[twilit geode]

Starting arenas hangs at 5% and requires game restarts. Leaving as well.

[timid parcel]

huh

[twilit geode]

Oh, I the same screen, just mirrored. I think I have few minutes break 🤣

[timid parcel]

will try to make it quick

[twilit geode]

Thanks 🤣

[spice edge]

Arena terrible today, very laggy, people keep getting kicked out.

Please bring back the 5% thing instead, at least it was predictable.

[timid parcel]

please make the matches shorter. these are won in the first 30seconds 95% of the time. the other 15 minutes is watching and waiting or running armadas and getting stuck at the loading screen

[cursive bridge]

Game keeps kicking me out whenever I try to use a GS-31 beam for the first time during an arena match.

[stone wolf]

Same here. Seems the other side can use it freely though. Then have to restart, ships are home. Others got the same crashes just when scanning enemy ships

[unique plume]

very good game. lol. every day problems, sick 🙂
2x inside arena

[spice edge]

Yeah, I just got kicked out when enemy used one.

[twilit geode]

I’m done with arenas for today. Restarting the game client two, three times per game is ridiculous.

[fair matrix]

1 week and scopely is to incompetent to fix the arenabug

[hybrid ibex]

Nani?

[twilit geode]

You can do it!

[strong mortar]

Im sorry...

[ornate prawn]

Someone else gets kicked out in nearly each arena because of missing internet connection? 🤬

[hybrid ibex]

here we go again

[rocky crypt]

Lag, disconnect, awful match-making. It is very repetitive.

[rocky crypt]

@muted badger What is it with the disconnects tonight. It is horrible.

[lament rain]

Any wager on whether the "5% retrying" bug is fixed for loading arena matches?

[inner plover]

seeing reports of it still

[lament rain]

Certainly an issue that is 100% reproduceable by 100% of the players would be addressed and fixed immediately /s

[lament rain]

Two matches in and no crash on "5% retrying" One match on the iPhone and one on Windows 11

[dense tiger]

Ok, but this is the second time (in a row!) I have an ops 43 without a name for the whole 10 minutes, with a power level of 1.77b? How is this even possible at OPS 43??

[frosty cedar]

that sounds like an ops-locked g4 revenant

definitely doable with the ferengi event store paying out revenant parts

as for the Retrieving... message, it could be a localization issue, but that's been a problem on this game for years :p

[fiery aurora]

heres some feedback, crash, crash, crash, crash, did i mention crash?

[wraith turtle]

This is getting very annoying, GS beam going -3 or -5 and not working. only way to fix that is to reboot during Arena..... which could make the difference between winning and losing.... fix it!

[safe frost]

that's early g6 levels of power, probably with surges

[night stone]

We need a surrender button since you are unable to make the matches fair.

[spice edge]

You can find that player on STFC.prop if you want...

[dense tiger]

Thank you for the explanation!! 💪🏽✨

[summer loom]

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag

kicked and restarting in a match is BULL

[night stone]

God I hate arena I hate them so much. The only thing worse in this game is the star-base assault.

[summer loom]

kicked EVERY MATCH

[night stone]

I can stay in a match but ops are so lopsided we have no chance.

[summer loom]

i get kicked every time during the match

worst server arena performance EVER

major lag on gs31 beem

arena is no longer fun with the restarts, lag, slow processing on gs31 beam..... FIX IT

EVERY MATCH I GET AUTORESTART SOMETIME TWICE

THREE TIMES NOW

IN SAME MATCH

SENDING a ticket for lousy lousy performance

terrible performance today, worst I have seen.

i quit arenas for today... fix it

getting kicked and game autorestarting in the same arena match in progress, up to THREE TIMES is friken RIDICULOUS!

[zealous tinsel]

so i keep getting booted from the game mid match every other match. what's up with that? i'd rather there be problems before and after rather than during....

[stone locust]

Is. Arenas broken. Been matchmaking for minutes…

[sly violet]

not many players doing them

[stone locust]

Great. How am I gonna get those 12 losses…

[fallen gust]

Been broken since they were released

[fiery pecan]

and you wonder why no one wants to play arena. Already had 2 losses, and this is the matchup you give me?

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>
here's one for ya.
ship won't move unless i tell it to attack something. it can't even join an armada.

[small seal]

Yeah, GS ability kills connection and had to restart the client. Happens in every match. But who cares we are loosing anyways, right?

[young musk]

You guys are absolutely terrible at this

What kind of match up is this??

[pine tangle]

Yeah, I love these kinds of ‘balanced’ match ups. It’s always so much fun when there’s absolutely no chance of winning.

[young musk]

Matchmaking is a joke, like their ability to manage the servers and fix bugs. They don’t care either about fixing it or improving arena

[barren cairn]

Absolutely unacceptable arena lag tonight, and being kicked several times per match. I know it’s been reported but just wanted to say it

[chilly trout]

Arenas matchmaking and performance was SO bad tonight if I didn't know any better I'd say the game was already dead and forgotten.

[raven pumice]

That 50 in your group is super weak, but yeah, it is a huge mismatch

[cosmic fable]

Hello. Please I have a problem. I am level 42 and in an arena match I encountered something like this. Is it possible?

[barren cairn]

The number you circled in the bottom right of the screenshot shows the ships level so yes it’s possible

And you won lol

[safe frost]

Likely due to surge pulls

[cosmic fable]

I'm not really good at it, I'm only level 42. I was referring to how the ship could grow, not if. He is level 43 and between level 40 - 51 you cannot have rare parts. How could the ship grow?

Can rare parts be obtained from somewhere? Thank you.

[safe frost]

Check the surge pulls from the support refinery

[cosmic fable]

Thank you Defier of Roko👍

[sly night]

you both have a 50?

[patent slate]

Ss Rev is not a very strong ship. The Kelvin gets all the FKR bonus the Rev does not.

[grand fjord]

People just mimimimimi when opposed to players that did their leg work.
Arenas (yes, laggy) but still great 🤘🏻💪

[strange mirage]

Are you arguing for the other side??? You have 3 players on your side at the top end of g4 (48, 49 and 50). The opponents have a 42, 46 and a 50......that 50 of theirs is having to do all the pvp heavy lifting.
This is also a textbook example of people using the matchmaking to their advantage (46 starts it and has lowest and highest join).
Point is, don't blame scopely when your account and others on your team are woefully underpowered compared to their peers. Yes that sounds harsh but sometimes there is no sugar coating the truth. 🤷

If you can't beat the big gun on the other side, use fast ships and hit their smaller players, use tactics like the armada timers etc.

[barren cairn]

Yeah when your 48 is bigger than your 49 and 50 theres a problem 😆

[slender hedge]

Why does arena even exist? Like its not fun queueing for ages to be locked into the gameplay when your a level 56 and you get put against level 70s....

[worldly hinge]

im guessing we got you lol

[ivory raven]

Match making determined the winning team and losing team 99%of the time, and the system do not perform as advertised. This match making just happened to me

[winged sand]

They stopped caring about Arena after week 2

[grand fjord]

It is very fun.
For me (ops 45, full f2p player) - an excellent way to see where I stand in a proper pvp; all the goodies from faction store; and also very very fun activity - with all highs and lows.

I see it as a very nice content.
Hope we don’t lose it because so many people didn’t do basic leg work and so many super loud haters.

Ps: don’t queue for ages. Just press that Leave button every now and then.

[winged sand]

I loved the idea of arenas but the execution destroyed it for me.

Its sad to say but its now time to just give every a free max pull of the Terran Arena Claim every day for the store and remove everything else to do with arena

[cyan void]

bros g4 and speaking for the g6 players 💀

[cyan void]

it slowly got worse and worse, doesnt help that the bugs in the galaxy also affects the arena systems + with the new bug where u got to restart the game everytime load into the arena system

[grand fjord]

“Bro” knows some mechanisms are the same for whatever lvl you are.
And “bro” really appreciates having Arena as a f2p player.

And with Vger showing the lack of proper account development some G6 people put into this game it is no surprise many can’t tackle few ops up.

But yeah, what do I know being a G4 🤷🏻‍♀️

…
Also wasn’t speaking for G6 but rather offered a G4 point of view since the person asked “why does Arena even exist”.

[timid parcel]

here for my weekly addition of this is a dog show. do something with it other than what it currently is please.

giving up on it again for another week. just pointless

[candid fiber]

first warp, stuck in warp

[cyan void]

the problem is, g4 and g6 is vv different, now why do i say so? 1. all g6 players r playing with almost always maxed impulse so u cant exactly outrun another ship, g4 or g5 at least you can have playersr that can outrun others their level or within their grade range if they maxed alexander dane or they're using impulse crew. 2. power scaling on g6 is much worse than g4 as you've mentioned in 'many cant tackle few ops up'. 3rd, there is almost 0 mechanics in the instance you are facing same impulse speed because even if you run they can still catch you after you've hit a hostile and exited battle so actually trying to outrun players whilst doing armadas is rlly hard, impossible probably not but comes down to lag almost every time. heck theres time where u are already in the 10s countdown for armadas but you still get killed. 4th theres the gs31 beam, support ships are only active in the arena for realistically 10 seconds and then they get killed. and just lastly, hes asking why arena exists because there still is long matchings and broken matchmaking. he wasnt exactly saying why it exists from a mechanics pov. just some points

[leaden sable]

and the paaring goes on bad and bad, and bad, and bad, and scopely as the hear the voice of their customers is doing their best to make it even worth

[sharp bluff]

Wtf 😒

[grand fjord]

Now since I don’t know you it is hard for me to guess if you are deliberately missing the point I was making or you are trolling or you forgot how things work while you are g4 and how it very much is hard to kill a 52 while you are a 45 (with all the specific differences there are between those ops lvls that I am familiar with like you are familiar with higher ops differences and challenges) or you just honestly do not understand what I was writing.

Either way - cool.

Thank you for that kindergarten explanation. I will cherish it while I’m platinuming today’s Arena.

🖖🏻

[viral condor]

i'm experiencing constant problems when switching to arena server and back. game loads and gets stuck at 70% "downloading game status..."

[restive trail]

1 Player with 2 Ships are the only Enemy in Arena and do what he wants.. Because of 1 Ship with 1.5 Mrd an another one with approx. 900 Mio. is stronger than we are together... No Balance in it.

[twilit geode]

And I still won 🤣

[frosty cedar]

still getting random disconnections in arenas

and keep getting stuck in warp

[neon vessel]

Keeps crashing out in the middle of matchups.

[rocky crypt]

Stuck in warp.
Game crashing when using the gs31 beam.
Fix this mess!

[icy sail]

There really needs to be a way to boot an inactive Arena group member.. too many people sitting around with "groups" that sit there for too long, people floating in/out with the "leader" doing who-knows-what.

[weak flare]

Yet again unmatched arenas spoiling the fun and then when attacked get booted from the game - unplayable tonight

[rocky crypt]

Private messaging is also still broken. Message chain fail when switching into and out of arena's making it hard to communicate. Kind of vital for an mmo.

[hybrid idol]

Wondered after incursion all messages were back again, even those from last year. Now after few gamecrashes they disappeared again, as always. But was a great moment to see them all back again

[fiery pecan]

Can you please just DISABLE the GS ability in arena until you fix the disconnect issue??

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056>
here's one for ya. now when we use the grav beam in the arena i'm getting disconnected from the flippin game.

[frosty cedar]

second time today I've gotten this swapping servers for arenas

[zealous tinsel]

aaaaaand a lot of this

[summer loom]

arenas is lousy. got kicked 3 times mid match and had to restart. BAD PERFORMANCE

[minor ice]

I would rather have no match at all than this garbage. Especially without a "CONCEDE" button.

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
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2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

[paper olive]

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore. it’s way past time…… figure it out

[summer loom]

getting kicked every match during the match is not fun at all

gs31 bug in arena causes a reboot

[frosty cedar]

please add a cooldown between someone being booted from a squad and them being allowed to rejoin. we've been trying to get a server-mate in our pub group but this other guy jumps in 0.2s after we boot him

[summer loom]

areqns is bad

this is total BS arenas is BROKEN restarting every match is crap

[night stone]

Please add a surrender button it’s not fun waiting for a match to be over you have zero chance to win.

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>
mid match.....

and now no dock bar. forcing yet another restart in a timed environment...

[summer loom]

happened to me today too

[night stone]

Arenas blow please add a surrender button.

[summer loom]

multiple frozen battles and restarts LAME PREFORMANCE

[hasty arrow]

probably the worst week i've had with issues in recent memory. Game reloads after exiting a match, reloads sometimes after GS-31 beaming someone. vengeance getting stuck in warp, 7-8 seconds to launch a GS-31 beam. lag has been awful overall.

[zealous tinsel]

i'm really trying hard to not get po'd at the arena this week

i just got booted from the game. then got back to no dock bar, then restarted, then no dock bar again. and now i'm restarting AGAIN

[craggy rover]

please fix your arena, can't call ship out because it's 00m00s

[random path]

It's just awesome how Arena quits right at the moment it starts

[terse beacon]

yea Que time 30ish sec. So nothing to see here everything works just right

[full lagoon]

Arenas are 100% 💩

[sharp lichen]

Scopely doesn't even monitor this channel anymore. It's just an echo chamber of how big of horse carp it is

[spare heath]

it's sad they can't figure out how to make this work right

[spare heath]

I doubt they ever did monitor it. they already knew about everything that has ever been posted here

[keen hazel]

gs beam crashes game 🙂

yeeeehawww

[fringe iris]

Your matchmaking fuggin suuuuuucks. Im so done with arenas. Every week it's this nonsense.

[drowsy breach]

In case you weren't aware - every time I (and everyone else it seems) engage the GS beam at the start, the game crashes. So, GS is a mess affecting regular game, waves, and arenas. Needs to be priotized. It is definitely not working as advertised.

[brisk shuttle]

Does anything work as advertised?

[drowsy breach]

True. Most of their words are meaningless

[carmine ore]

So that's why level 71 ships would exit the arena on my gs blast

I thought they were just afraid of it

[toxic fjord]

If you want pairings that come closer to the total ops levels of your squad you need to leave and re-enter the queue every 10 seconds or so. If it takes longer than that it means there was no balanced pairing to be found. You are now headed for an unbalanced pairing.

[late rune]

@toxic fjord I try to tell the leader this. It's not rocket science.

[white sorrel]

True

[full lagoon]

But they created an event to force us all to experience the worst programming in the world.

[dense aspen]

Feedback: fix your damn game.

[cyan void]

fix matchmaking too lol

[worldly hinge]

ur qing cryo?

haven't found you yet 😝

[cyan void]

don't snipe me please🤣

[worldly hinge]

need a match 😅

my timezone sucks for arenas

[cyan void]

I'm against apac dumb whale

[worldly hinge]

ozzy? >.>

[cyan void]

yea

[worldly hinge]

easy win

[cyan void]

the guy who went from 62 to 70 in one day cuz he kept dying🤣

that's back when g6 just came out too😆

[worldly hinge]

worse luck than me

[cyan void]

oh I matched them jn

unfair to them even tho their 64 is whale

[worldly hinge]

mm must be really 💩 if we haven't matched eachother yet

[cyan void]

I'm against people I've never seen before😂

[worldly hinge]

same 😅 mm so weird tdy

[cyan void]

yikes😆

[worldly hinge]

😅

[cyan void]

<@&509690795536941056> is scopely done with arenas or not? cuz it rlly looks like they're done with arenas with how deaf they r to all the feedback in this channel

that and i havnt seen an actual arena update in forever?

i think forever, its beeen rlly long 😅

think i woke up hammy guys 🤣

[mystic plume]

it must literally be 10 seconds. After restarting the search every 10 secs for 10 min of nothing, I let one run for about 20 seconds and got a team where every player on their team was higher ops, power and arena rank than every player on ours.

[fathom lion]

Now this is what I call balanced matchmaking

[sage shuttle]

Hahahahaha. Scopely were done with Arenas as soon as it wasn't their latest content (no profit left in it).
They faffed around with it, and actually made it worse.

[cyan void]

yea the only way to revive arenas to show the shareholders that people play it is to add the veng and arena SMS

[timid parcel]

400 points it is. Is the matchmaking now just whover is online?

[sly violet]

and thats why the BEST way to balance the matchmaking is: total sum of team 1 versus total sum of team 2... +4-4 OP & +10%-10% TS (total strength)... that applied to ur example here: 12B versus 3,7B... your team have 320% more power... the correct matchmaking would be the game find u a team with 13,4B or 10,9B. that would make the fights get real even and the player knowledge, crewing, research, artifacts, would make the difference.. but I guess this is asking too much for scopely devs to figure it out

[timid parcel]

the whole setup is hopeless, before considering the matchmaking why is the format so drawn out? It's a PVP contest, why are we lagging and glitching around trying to do armadas? Just lemme pick a squad and let the computer run the maths that their ships will defeat all of mine without a scratch and give me my 400 credits for the store.

better yet just give me 100 premium mirror dust per day and scrap the terran faction all together

[cursive bridge]

The more restrictive you make it, the less likely the system is to actually find a match. Next people complain about endless queues.

[winged sand]

each week im seeming less and less people playing arena, becasue each week stability and matchmaking is not fixed

[sly violet]

then u agree having a broken match with players that have 3 times ur power... which one is better? waiting a higher time and a fair fight? or just enter a fight to lose? I rather prefer getting a fair fight

[cursive bridge]

I’ll take my chances.

[sly violet]

I got several arena fights that the other team had a lot more power than my team, we still beat them... also lost a lot of fights when we had more power than the other team...

@cursive bridge

[rapid badger]

Honestly, I just dislike the Arena... not sure why. I played thuem until I unlocked my Vindicator, then stopped. I just don't enjoy it, so I don't play it. At the same time, I have friends on my server that enjoy them immensly. Good for them.

That is the beautiful thing about this game. You aren't REQUIRED to play the parts you don't like, or have 'outgrown'.

[meager nimbus]

Dear Arena Team, here are two simple and nice suggestions for improvement: First, don't allow special ships, only faction ships. Second, a team can only consist of players of the same level and compete against teams of the same level. I'm really not keen on Arena, but you just keep bringing it back and can't see that it's failed so far, just like the outposts.

[normal cliff]

I am pretty sure you continuously work on the Matchmaking, such games are no fun for no one.
And we were only a few seconds in the queue...but less lags in Arena today which is good 👍

[meager nimbus]

Really no chance again that team

[sweet garnet]

[odd bough]

Arena is buggy, laggy and broken as usual. I am only doing it cause I am a trit hoe. In the middle of the arena I lagged so bad, my ships were sent home and were not killed!

[grand fjord]

Another lovely Arena evening 💪
Yes, a bit laggy, some hard fights, some easy fights but all in all another lovely pew pew evening 🥳🤘🏻🖖🏻

[rocky verge]

<@&509690795536941056> what in the ever loving lag is wrong with your servers?! ships are not flying into the system... if they get in the system all i see are impulse trails...

[worldly hinge]

its possible... i've won against g7 teams without having a g7 myself... just gotta kite the big one

ofc it depends on players/teams

[small seal]

Thanks you for fixing GS 31 ability. Just saying it for my self.

[small dragon]

Scopely in there usual fashion has the arena so jacked up that an OPs 52 is going up against Op 61 players. Where is fairness in that. Its bad enough going against credit card warriors. But players Nine levels higher.

[rose locust]

Okay, either I'm acutally overpowered now (unlikely) or the matchmaking is still not great.

[swift raft]

I really want to enjoy arenas again, but just can't with the lag and mismatch.

[tame linden]

I enjoyed the last runs. Sometimes I was not able to attack a ship, but thats it. The matchmaking was good. And I don't mind to play against higher OPS, size is not the only thing that matters:

[red yoke]

😂

[broken star]

Had a couple of those yesterday. I don't get it. When you start a group, there is a lvl range. You should only ever get matched against groups in that same range. I would rather have the matching time out after 5 minutes and the game tell me that a match is not currently available then guaranteed lose arena points. @muted badger can we make this happen?

[barren cairn]

Why does nobody listen when this is explained? The longer you wait in the queue the better chance you have of the search being expanded to include groups outside your level ranges. It’s been like this since arenas began

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[safe frost]

Because people would rather complain than get better.

[grand fjord]

And this works like a charm!!

[spice edge]

To be fair, knowing that isn't a great metric of betterness.

[mystic plume]

How about a check-box that the Arena team leader can select. Either A: Ill take any battle we can get (get a battle sooner, might be a mismatch) or B: Only search for battles in my near range (may take much longer to get a battle, but it will never be against a team much stronger or much weaker than you)

The reason most people dont do arena is due to the mismatches. Because not many people do arena, mismatches are more common. Its a negative feedback loop. Something needs to be done to break the loop. Giving people the option of never having a massive mismatch (without having to constantly cancel and rejoin the queue) will encourage more people to do arena, meaning you will get matches quicker even if you opt out of mismatches.

[safe frost]

Being good in arena includes that imo. Same as knowing which team to join and when you find the best matches

[crystal condor]

👎

[covert heron]

Give me a checkbox to say "Concede"

[rose locust]

Being good in arena involves knowing how to trick Scopely's bad logic into matches in your favor? In another game I play, trying to manipulate the PvP matchmaking in your favor is specifically against the rules. It's more or less cheating, whether Scopely allows it or not.

[summer loom]

Knowing how to put together a team that gives you the best chance at a match where your tank will almost always be the strongest player is indeed a learned skill and invaluable knowlege.

[rose locust]

I dont know enough people to even do that. What is a tank? Oh i should prob not ask in feedback.

[summer loom]

An ideal team to get the best match is a strong player who does all the pvp, they are the highest level possible (4 ops levels about the arena starter.)

Then A middle. This would be the arena starter. They focus solely on hostiles and starting armadas with a combo of speed and loot crews.

Finally the third player must have a ops level 4 levels below the armarda starter. This player fills the same role as the middle player. Hostiles and armadas.

So ops levels ideally look like opc 50 - 54 - 58
What you dont want is all the same ops levels like 50 - 50 - 50

The 58 would be pure PVP set up for that role alone. The best option is to pick the strongest 58 you can.
The 54 armada starter and the 50 smaller player should have the lowest power possible. (ie. smaller the better)

So when the computer combines your power, it will genereally result in a match where your strongest 58 player is the strongest player in the match because other teams aren't match up well. They will have a higher overall power generally, which gives them harder matches.

Finally, once you have a good team, don't forget to not let match making go too long. The longer you wait, the wider the acceptible range of opponents you could get matched with gets.

@rose locust

[safe frost]

In addition to what the other guy said, I generally get better matches early on or late at night. While that is also the time where the arena fanatics play, I generally get less of the near impossible ones.
I have also set up all of my ships to fill in different roles, so depending on the enemy I can play carry, middle man or support without changing my setup, which has helped me win a ton of matches.

[rose locust]

I have a very high power level but am bad at pvp. What now? I dont fit into that.

[rose locust]

Idk what that means, im not good enough to run support ships, or really multicrew, i run all pvp crews bc otherwise splat.

[safe frost]

i generally do 3 pvp, semi pvp/loot/support with gs and then support ships like mantis or cerri for the main PvP person with loot/speed crews. So i can send in two pvp, two support, a mix...

[rose locust]

I don't think i can do that, i dont know how in practice.

[safe frost]

throw e picard, garret kuron on a rev and you have a speed/loot ship. eriker 5/11 (scotty if 5 is low tier) on mantis and you have a ship that can support and do armadas

You also have to know your enemy. If i see a really high power enemy with low rank i generally expect them to not know about stuff like sneaking armadas etc so i take fast ships (that can't be killed by GS beam) with loot crew and run circles around them. If i see a high power high rank i rather take mantis so my carry has a better chance at killing them.

[spice edge]

Revenant over NSEA?

[spice edge]

By ships six and seven your PvP Crews are going to be seriously lacking, loot crew for one trader->one solo->one group armada is efficient.

[safe frost]

Rev has more hull so I tend to go with that

[spice edge]

Ah, I like having Omega-13 flying around as an armada option.

[safe frost]

The only times I can’t dodge is when it’s lagging too hard, won’t be able to use omega then (and those max GS beams hurt)

[spice edge]

I mean if you're going for a last 20 seconds armada against a stronger player, Omega-13 is occasionally enough of a difference.

[safe frost]

I’d still get beamed, and as long as I was already in the mada I never run into issues at that point

[gritty oak]

Can we put Arenas into IA next?

[spice edge]

Only if I get the same rewards.

[visual parrot]

Some of the players have already put arena into the IA building

[twilit geode]

How’s lag today?

[short basin]

A dumpster fire as always. That’s my feedback for this week. Not worth offering actual constructive feedback as you completely ignore the community

[spice edge]

This is very much not fair.

[proven cosmos]

Max ops in my Team 46, Max ops on the other team: 53, Really fair

2.82 Billion rela,

[hybrid ibex]

<@&509690795536941056> working as intended?

[autumn dew]

How can this player apply 3 times more isolytic damage than I can? 3-times! Bridge is identical, I had Titan small buff + Cerri-buff active.

[grand fjord]

Research, artifacts, FC… any number of things…

[safe frost]

higher base damage, maybe your hierarch didn't trigger so you didn't get the cascade from ezri, maybe his ezri is higher than yours...

[grand fjord]

Roko will explain it better 💪

[flat basalt]

Probably their captain ability triggered and yours didn't

[autumn dew]

Bridge officers are all the same levels. And Ezri would be 20%, NOT 300%. My research is all maxed, OPS-locked now. FC as well.

[safe frost]

ezri needs the enemy to have a status, so doesn't do jack if hierarch doesn't trigger. She also does iso cascade, which is base damage+iso damage multiplied with the percent added on top of your iso damage

[autumn dew]

Status might be the answer! Where can I see if my Hierarch fired or not?

[safe frost]

check for this text at the start of your rounds

[autumn dew]

Different battle with the same player! Even bigger difference!

[safe frost]

still possible depending on the triggers 😅 Yours look like standard 600% iso damage with no cascade.

quick example:
let's say both have 10 base damage and 500% iso damage. You'd shoot 10 normal and 50 iso damage. Without cascade that will stay that way for both of you. Now let's say you have a t5 ezri that managed to stay active for two rounds. That's 400% cascade, so you'd have to do (10(base)+50(iso))*4 and add that to your iso damage. You'd end up with 10 base damage and 290 iso damage.

There are more factors like pvp iso research, maybe uni shielding ct. The best comparison would be to see a r1 where both of you had a hierarch trigger

[rocky crypt]

ship stuck in combat for a minute already. Having to restart in the middle of a match is horrible.

[twilit geode]

Just no chance to have someone starting match. I was in few teams and there is always one guy that doesn’t know how to use “Ready” button 🫤

[spice edge]

You unlock Ready button at Plat 3 I think. No one under uses it.

[twilit geode]

I was sure there was a prime to make others ready 🤣

[normal cliff]

Heavy lags in Arena, can you disable Arena when it's unplayable?

[normal cliff]

armada timers just freeze in Arena

[rocky crypt]

@muted badger Lag is omnipresent. Nothing unusual unfortunately.

And where are our armadas. This is stupid:

[glossy cobalt]

The game is sluggish as hell, now go play some arenas with arena being sluggish longer than the game has been recently. Double kill👌🏻👍🏻 gg

[night stone]

Other team had a guy 4 ops higher and all of them are at a higher ops than my team. Why even leave the docks?

Surrender button already.

[spice edge]

Second Fist of the Empire event is a little late popping up.

[slender estuary]

Is it worth trying Arena again on the latest app??? or will it drive me crazy with lag?

[night stone]

Arenas flat out are terrible, I hate them.

Give us a surrender button so we don’t waste our time!

[ocean hatch]

Lag is making arena unplayable today.

[shy vigil]

G6 matching is AIDS. It's really stupid how basically every G6 ship that isn't a maxed cube or Vengeance is absolutely useless in arena

[stuck torrent]

Arena isn’t much of a game. It’s more of an after sales service to the high spenders and the rest of us are just products. It would then make sense why Scopely hasn’t bothered to fix arena, since it’s working well enough for their intended clientele. It’s those of us who don’t spend enough and/or treat it as an actual game that suffer.

[violet elk]

Lag is terrible in arena today. Everything on delay atleast 2-3 seconds, cant attack someone who just finished armada for like 4-5 seconds, etc

[night stone]

Areas are lagging, they show armadas never finishing even though they did and they match making is a joke.

[spice fjord]

Haven't been able to get a match in in three weeks. Start up and boom, facing matchups I can't win. Unplayable. Still no concede option so I can stop wasting ten minutes of my life per. Thanks guys!

[elfin sentinel]

🤨 🧐

[spice edge]

Trust in your Plat 1 55. And dodge the 62.

Your Plat 1 should beat the 60 and and the 57 easily, so it's just doing armadas without the 62 getting you.

[white wave]

the matchmaking system in Arena is atrocious. I will not participate any further until it is fixed.

[spice fjord]

Lol on my sixth match (only 1 playable so far) and they gave up and matched my 64 66 67 group with a 71. Nice job

[minor ice]

Apparently they overbooked this arena system 🤡

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
.
.
.
The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
.
2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
.
3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
.
4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

[rose locust]

So Scopely, how does an ops 50 player get a level 55 (tier 11) NSEA??????? Edit: maybe I'm confused, I thought the NSEA had ops locks. Ah, okay, was thinking of another ship.

[quiet agate]

You assume they even care, the lag is so bad tonight, arena shouldnt even be running. the game is unplayable. Yet here it is, still running.

[rose locust]

good golly is it s l o w tonight, it's like "can I eat a snack between actions?" although tbf this is an excelsior arc, remember what happened to the excelsior?

[broken wagon]

This is the most god awful broken game mechanic ever made. Hope this helps

[spice edge]

Your ideas would be a win more button for me, but would be fairer, and those super zoomed out pictures are pretty.

[glossy cobalt]

Just noticed this. I did like 5 arenas and won all of them yet it only counted 2👌🏻 gg

[neon heart]

Arenas are basically dead content. Scopely haven't given any update or attempted to change anything in the months after they came out.

Players give the same feedback week after week, and scopely does absolutely nothing, except wonder why they get such negative reviews

[unkempt estuary]

At first, I didn’t think the idea of an arena was very appealing. Just another PvP event that you can’t play without spending money—that was my initial skepticism. But now I’ve come to enjoy it. I like playing as part of a team and love taking a tactical approach. The arena lets me check my status and see what I’m still missing to be ready for PvP.

However, I’d like to narrow down what’s missing in the Arena to three things:
1.
Improved communication options!
2.
Stability
3.
Bug fixes

Improved communication options!
I find it unprofessional, cumbersome, tedious, and impractical that I can only message the other two teammates after a duel has been successfully matched. There should be a way to contact participants in advance. Or perhaps an additional chat where simple coordination could take place before, during, and after the match.

Stability
Even for a PC player, every week is like a surprise egg.

Bug fixes
Note in the Arena Info regarding the question:
Has the feature to take over an arena from team members been implemented?

VICTORY POINTS
1 VP - Arena Freighter
3 VP - Arena Cruiser
5 VP - Any enemy player ship
25 VP - Arena Single Armada = ? Was this counted this week?
300 VP - Arena Armada = is this true? not 200?

[autumn dew]

Thank you, Roko. We both have Ezri T-3 only. But I‘ll check for the other points you mentioned..

[real venture]

In my opinion, Arena is scheduled at a bad time i work 2 jobs and can't have my phone while working. The 2 times I was off on a Friday and try to get into arena, I was only able to get into 4 matches in 8 hrs. being dependent on other to be able to participate in an event is ridiculous.

[little panther]

<@&509691205798592532> Match ups are still terrible, everyone knows that. Scopley doesn't even address areas anymore. One of my biggest issues is getting to a level say gold 2 or 3 for example and then with the horrible match ups that that we all know will happen you drop, that shouldn't happen. I know tons of people who don't do arena anymore because you lose so often unless you spend on all the arena favors and buffs ect. My point is that for those who still do them even though we lose more often than not we shouldn't be penalized for participation, we shouldn't be locked out of items in the faction store because Scopley refuses to fix something. If we achieve it then we should get to maintain that level. Especially given the fact that Scopley won't fix the match ups system

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[elfin sentinel]

is there anything that increases the loot from the daily arena claim?

I did a bunch yesterday (only won about 4 of them) so I have a good bit of loot and want to make the best out of it

[primal burrow]

Not fun. Not worth it. Just gonna pretend it doesn't exist

[rapid oxide]

Just got to say I tried arena it was very one-sided you have one powerful player on the other side and everybody else loses so it didn't matter playing it at all now incursion is a 12-hour long arena match great job

[rapid oxide]

Good news does a 12-hour arena match coming up you can jump in at any time it used to be called incursion

[olive harness]

there is a pay-only prime that increases the stuff in the claim by 50%

[spark cradle]

These were so broken on Friday! Multiple crashes, ship stuck in battle for 4 mins+, armada times that wouldn't count down on top of horrible lag. Seriously get your junk together! Broken game = not spending money!

[toxic shoal]

The new Incursion rules are dumb they ruined the fun of all out war between Servers...

[mystic plume]

The matchmaking is so bad in arena that I expect the odd fight this week where no one can attack each other due to the new PvP banding, and it’s just a race to do the armadas…..

[worldly hinge]

i didnt think about that... just assumed that its like tc where there is no banding

if there is banding that'll be funny 🤣

[bitter shale]

Yup, about a match 🤦‍♂️

[winged sand]

how is anyone supposed to play arena with this mess?

[storm vine]

If the incursion lags even remotely as much as the arena does, you might as well just cancel it altogether.

[hybrid ibex]

<@&509690795536941056> did arena matching change?

53 starter vs 58 starter ?

[winged sand]

<@&509690795536941056> I am beyond angry now.
3 weeks I had had to suffer though unplayable arenas
have not been able to complete my fist event or pull any arena chests

Each week getting increasingly worse and worse.
Started with Lag, then not warping into arena "warping 00s", then beam not firing for 12 seconds, now progressed to ships not being able to repair and ship abilities not even being able to be used

Enough is enough. the game needs fixing. If the Devs are not going to fix it let us know so we can quit instead of letting us waste more money on the game in the hopes that things with improve, becasue as of yet every day it is degrading more and more and not a single thing is getting repaired

[slate kraken]

Every arena match be like...

[dapper wave]

Ungodly amounts of lag today, ships got stuck in warp 3 times, destroyed ships aren't being shown as destroyed and my ships fly across half the system before i can use them .

[winged sand]

The biggest issue is the 12 second lag when someone fires the GS beam!
That needs to be the priority to fix

Because the game needs to register that command before allowing anything else to take place due to debuffs it causes every time someone presses it especially in arena it locks everything else up until that command is processed

and with 6 people all using GS trying to beam each other it blows up arena's

[young musk]

As usual, Lag City

[gritty oak]

Put Arenas in IA and get rid of the stupid worthless things

[glossy cobalt]

Lol a player joined my group and i noticed this. How are we unfriendly with these guys when they're not even on our server😂😂

[feral nova]

Lol this match was ass 🤣 i did my best

[hybrid ibex]

Why did you leave the group?

[feral nova]

I say i was going to go afk

I pm your guy ops 57😁

Next time hope we do some 😁

[safe frost]

assuming you have g7 players most likely due to veil isues

[feral nova]

@hybrid ibex how party you win when i leave ?

[hybrid ibex]

It went up and down, didn't have a 3rd player that stuck around sadly. But overall it was as ok as arena can be

[young musk]

Getting matched with a 65 when I’m a 56, smfh

What a fair matchup, thanks <@&509690795536941056>

Like I’m gonna keep posting this stuff, we all should because maybe it will shame them into fixing arena.

[shy vigil]

Such garbage

[gritty oak]

The 71 might just be there for their Vengeance event. I literally joined on just to get my 5 kills then went AFK for the rest.

[shy vigil]

It's not the 71's fault that he got matched up with a lobby that has an average rank 4 below their lobby

[glossy cobalt]

Ahh yea that makes senses.

[shy ruin]

Another one of Scopely's fair matchups. Thanks for nothing...again

[night stone]

Arenas are trash. Add surrender button or remove them from the game.

[night stone]

What the hell I am
up against all 46s in a match when our top person is 42. Like we have a chance in hell. Do you guys even try and make a quality product?

[hybrid idol]

Training for armadcursion. All those Armadas staying forever 😵‍💫

[tawdry sun]

I’ve basically stopped playing arena. I like the rewards, but I’ve got more interesting and less frustrating things to do on a Friday. Like watch paint dry, or timing watched and I watched kettles.

[autumn dew]

Arena yesterday stopped before I even came home from work 😡😡😡. Is this finally and the official transfer to a game for workless and/or oligarch-kids?

[teal steeple]

The newest bug had yesterday in Arena was all my 7 ships icons from center bottom HUD disappear. That was new. Still get ghost ships/artefacts, blocked in warp and most hated bug past two weeks error repair, pressing 3-4 times, asking latinum instead of help, 2 seconds from on repair to repaired.

[grand beacon]

played few hours yestoday few minor problems, but better than normal

[rapid blaze]

Why does Scopely continue to run arena based events when arenas are not available?? Completely unfair and unacceptable!!

[grand beacon]

What are you on about? They are on Fridays for few hours. The window to get the event done is during the arena run time

[rapid blaze]

This arena rewards event is active now for me, however arenas are not available.

[grand beacon]

yes its started yesterday with arenas and will close on event reset, but the window to score in the event is during arena run witch was yesterday

[rapid blaze]

Does not make sense to run the event longer than the possible scoring time period is live. They often run limited time events. Plus with all the glitches and problems shown in the complaints above prove how unfair this is.

[grand beacon]

its a weekly event it makes sense to run it alongside other events. I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to ask them to run it as sperate time/cycle, just look how badly they're doing them as is

[full lagoon]

Arena are the worst experience on this game. Waves are second

[half crest]

i gave up the arenas as they are just laggy and incredible bad pairing i think it is way past time to end arenas

[sharp spoke]

but big Whale needs little Fish to feel satisfied

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[grand beacon]

would be nice if they would add some more stuff to store no incentive to play them for me exept the pvp aspect

[grand fjord]

Yesterday Arenas - yes, some lag, would be great if there was no lag for those very close encounters where every move counts - but overall and as always a great part of the game.
Some great fights, some honorable loses, great points made and much credits collected - 🤘🏻💪
Love this event!

[heavy heart]

friday night is the worst night for the worst event, my opinion. have missed so many, and the ones i dont miss are not fun chores to make up for lost time, takes forever to get so little benefit

[velvet prism]

Arena: Needs much better matchmaking. At my introductory level and I’d guess at higher levels, whichever team has the strongest ship wins. No way around it. Once that’s established, it’s wait out the next 8-9 minutes. Not fun.

Less lag
Open for more hours —why not a full weekend day or all weekend?

[grand fjord]

Just trying to help - there is a great post a bit higher up that Roko wrote - it summs up all important things for Arena.
Great read and really helpful 🖖🏻

[spice edge]

Would agree, Kurat does know what he's talking about. Name is DefierofRoko here for some reason.

[broken bridge]

This aint even that bad. 4 level dif of Max players on each team. I dont see anything to whine about here

[inner ledge]

Well within your PvP bracket stop whining

[young musk]

Wish I could damage a 65 and yet even though it’s “in my PvP bracket” I can’t same with a 76 player

[true lava]

theres only 2 of those so not likely

[drowsy breach]

I love the arena event. Yes, it has issues (as do all events with STFC Scopely). I enjoy the matches for the most part, the rewards are good, and, if you go public, you get to meet some great players from other servers. It would be nice if they ran it longer to allow more flexibility on playing time, but I can adjust. One hour is usually enough to complete event and get loot for the week.

[surreal sorrel]

Bring back the veng parts!

[velvet condor]

problem here

[low socket]

00s

[twilit geode]

I did few arenas and I cannot log in!

[winged sand]

the state of arena, cos no1 wants to play with the rubbish lag and crappy matchmaking anymore

[forest portal]

Not balanced at all

[jagged plover]

Entschuldigung ich kann leider kein Englisch aber wie soll man Gegner angreifen in solch einer Einblendung auf den Gegner ist

Als gefragt wird der Gegner war in keinem Kampf war auch nicht im Abflug er stand rum

[rocky crypt]

Same story:

• Lag
• Armada flags staying up
• Armada counter not working
• More Lag.

[crimson marsh]

Guys, please work on the match making. That's so off.
I tried it after months again, and even the performance and lags are more than before. Not sure if the lags are related to the server merge 401/405. Nevertheless I gonna skip the pvp part, its not worth it to get these type of high level opponents regularly and be frustrated afterwards.

[rocky crypt]

Why do pm-s break every single time we transfer in and out of arena's / incursions. How can we communicate properly without having to fall back to some 3rd party tool.

[minor ice]

🎵 Lag, Lag, Lag, Lag
Lag, Lag, Lag, Laaaag 🎵

[minor ice]

<@&509690795536941056> The devs need to give us the ability to send DMs to people in our arena group, from the moment you join the squad. Also, if you create a squad, you should be auto-ready.

[chilly trout]

Fix your stupid matchmaking

[void topaz]

He beat me to it.

[oak temple]

Worst part of a broken game by far somehow. Absolute TRASH. I cannot believe this still is happening at all. I wasted an hour for 1200 measly Veng parts and couldn't use my game otherwise. Never again. I don't care what you offer, I am not spending another second in this awful awful trash fire of a feature. And please stop sending me notifications from the stupid terran store. I hadn't touched it in 6 months and still get 10 notifications a day for absolutely nothing. Notifications, broken (still) since what? 2005?

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509691205798592532>
one of these things is not like the other.... and is causing a lot of problems where time matters 🙂

[glossy cobalt]

Lol wtf how is that even possible😂 i had that happen 1 time before vs like 2 70s and a lower.

[small seal]

Oh man today was a hard one, every time I get into group its a zombie setup, they just doing their own thing not paying attention to their teammates and then when I need some help they just stop not carrying to score, so I keep jumping from one group after fail to another for like 7 matches and just as I about to end the suffering not even carring to finish the event I try one more time and finally luck smiles to me and i get into golden opportunity team and the match vs match almost identical to power wise and we rocked, unfortunately I was out of time and had to leave the group after we won ofcourse, but was able to finish event.

[snow narwhal]

I am so damned tired of fighting the game more than I fight other people...ship repair lag is disastrous in arena, not being able to tell where your ship actually is, getting stuck in warp, getting kicked out with a forced reboot. none of these issues have improved over the course of the last month so what is actually being done to address any of this?

oh lets not forget armadas not respawning and targeting lag. nothing better in pvp than seeing a spinning circle when you click a ship

[sinful harbor]

It would be super helpful to be able to chat with public forming squads before joining them.

[spice edge]

That was happening all the time today, threw me off on one.

[snow narwhal]

and during the match...we got a chat for the veil but not for arena groups 😒

[rapid oxide]

Well I know none of the developers actually care about any of this but it's crazy how lopsided the matches are instead of putting people together according to rankings they just got to find anyone who's willing to play the stupid arena game and I've won really lopsided matches and I've lost really lopsided matches but what's worse is whenever the game boots you out and crashes.

[chilly trout]

Arena needs a complete rework. It's literally terrible in every way it could be.

[rapid oxide]

That's the problem level 40 and 41 should not be matched up in an arena match against the level 48 and 46 player never mind the other two that were 44s and my ships kept disappearing so whenever I would try to click a Target I would get a line and my shifts would be on the other side of the screen and nothing would ever match up what the heck are you guys smoking to make something this bad God I really really tried to play this this is about got me ready to quit the whole game after messing up incursion and the PVP rankings and then I see arena being this bad to play.

[gritty oak]

Did a match for the first time in over 6 months for the Vengeance event. Literally terrible and worse than it ever was. At no time was a ship visually where the server thinks it is plus all the delays in even being able to attack after selecting an opponent ship makes it completely unplayable.

[sour eagle]

People actually do arenas? They were never fixed after rollout, and were unplayable then. You guys are gluttons for punishment. Don’t engage with content that doesn’t work. It’s not our fault parts of the game doesn’t work, why should we pay for it?

[safe frost]

You guys are gluttons for punishment.
We're still playing this game, i thought that'd be obvious

[patent slate]

Guess the select ship option has been removed..

Fortunately the timer ran down and we still won

And don't forget the disconnects ...

[kindred quiver]

As a suggestion.. scrap Arena based on player ships/research and go the minimal Battle Royale startup concept.

1. Within player bracket you can pick any ship at base level. Not tied to ships you currently own. All research ignored.. you provide a choose Battleship, Interceptor or Explorer option and perhaps a faction variation.
2. You can crew it how you wish.
3. Provide 5 min set up time.

The Arena is then based on setup/skill/tactics and mismatched tiering not an issue (quicker matching times). It equalises all players except for how good they are in the arena.

If you are good then rewards to up skill, so the Terran store still counts.

Something like that

Less Formula 1, more NASCAR 😁

[chilly trout]

Not a bad idea, but be honest with yourself.... Do you honestly think the current development team could implement that model in any feasible working way?

[kindred quiver]

To be honest could they implement it if they wanted to yes, would they.. hmm. An idea rattling in my head, put to screen and I can now forget about it 😁

[small seal]

But there is a flaw with your design. You need to be able invest something into your strategy, nobody will give you a car and like here you go bud a car for you to win in nascar.

[kindred quiver]

Oh I don’t know as it’s a concept that already exists in PvP gameplay it’s not a new concept or my concept just a worked idea.

In the Nascar/Formula 1 play off. Nascar is more here is a standard design win on Driver skill/team and race strategy Is that what really Arena should be about? Based on a common foundation with some selectable variables win on your player/team skill?

[small seal]

Well you have to look at this from gaining perspective. If the game created two button program, click here and there without applying real world scenario like building you up to create change would you come back playing it again?

[kindred quiver]

Certainly not saying that all ships are identical as agree that is just hit play and let go..come back who won? Really boring !

This is more standardised but gives variations but from a common source point all have access to. It’s not bring your own ship as too much variation based on level and variations of research etc

Instead a set of common ships. A category of ship you choose, a crew you choose, perhaps some variation of stats you choose. Then it’s down to team play etc

[small seal]

You said it yourself it will be boring. Maybe good for one maybe two play but would lost interest in the long run and rather quickly too.

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[kindred quiver]

I think you took my words out of context 🤣. I said boring if without player selected variation added to the mechanic. Anyway just an idea, have a good one.👍

[cunning tendon]

I really like that idea, but there’s no way they would go with it because there’s no way to monetize it. Plus it’s creating an event where spending money gives no advantage over anyone else, and that can’t happen.

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>
Hey got a QoL suggestion for the Arena. Is there any way someone could look into disabling the insta-warp thing for ships? k-thanks-bye 🤣

[safe frost]

One of the main reasons I never got one for my fkr ships

[brittle tusk]

Probably been suggested before, but could they run Arena Friday night and Saturday morning. People enjoying life on Friday nights can have a chance to finish a weekly event in the morning. I bet good $$$$ that if it ran 6 hours before new events you would get enough people for both times

[gloomy rover]

Unfortunately it’s been asked since they changed it to Friday 😞

[sly violet]

we've been requesting 24hrs since day one of arenas... not gonna happen buddy

[worldly hinge]

🤣

wow two in a row

[cyan void]

take oe away from the q🤣

why in the world does arena feedback have slow mode, no one even uses this channel🤣

[worldly hinge]

<@&509690795536941056> fix areans... you destroy incursions and now arena mm is horrible... these poor g4/g5 haven't faced anyone else yet

i've only faced g4/g5 today

[cyan void]

they should've gotten a G4 vengeance then. scopely allows it if they spend enuf:p

[fickle niche]

lol, no thank you. hard pass. still not coming back to this awful mechanic 😂

[half crest]

I think it is past time to sunset the arenas as it is to broken and there is not enough ppl wanting to do them

[short canopy]

Ehem. Excuse me?

[fickle niche]

the same 50 players with vengeance are dying to compete every friday. there is no sunsetting this absurd event 🤣

[grand fjord]

I don’t have a Vengance and still love Arenas and can’t wait for Fridays. And there are many more than same 50 that do.
Just sayin’.

Yes, laggy but great experience, fun, love the favors, love practicing my crews and new strategies to win (or lose sometimes).

All in all - a great event 💪

[frigid rapids]

I don’t get this picture I only get a home bace picture

So I don’t end up going into an arena fighting arena<————-I don’t get this picture (((((( HELP)))))) me eeeeeeeeeed

?

What’s wrong?

[safe frost]

go into galaxy view after entering the arena

[fickle niche]

come to the upper g6 bracket, ops65+ and your story will change, unless you are one of those who latches on to whales to win matches

[safe frost]

running circles around whales is fun though

[grand fjord]

I do hope that once I get to 65+ there still will be Arena. I really do.

And nope, no latching. I tend to be the “big gun” while we play 🤓

[fickle niche]

not really. dont see the idea of vengeance having higher impulse and catching you no matter what a fun thing

[safe frost]

yeah that is annoying, but still somehow works out for me most of the time

wow matchmaking is weird today, only getting enemies i could speedcrew (usually it's the other way around)

[frigid rapids]

Ok

It’s not letting me in

It’s not letting me in the battle

[safe frost]

click on that button, select middle system, fly in

[frigid rapids]

I’m in a tournament 🏟️ it should be connecting me automatically

But I do not get that picture

I only got

[solid dawn]

Arena is so bad today, ships don't move, score stuck, unplayable....

[frigid rapids]

This one ☝️

Yes 👍 I agree Sky

But other are getting in

So it must be to do with iPhone 📱

I’ve heard others say that they have problems with iPad

And on a laptop they had problems because they picked up a virus or a bug or something

No, if I can’t play this part of the game and I might as well give up because I need to get all the reputation parts act from the game in order to improve

[safe frost]

having the same issues since after reset, servers must be overheating

[solid dawn]

After arena had issue with failed to log in😂

[mellow vault]

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-that-sucks-it-sucks-sucks-not-good-gif-21320532

[normal cliff]

Just a small Arena feedback
We face terrible lag again, ships cannot enter, disconnects, dead armadas, all like last week 😕
And matchmaking, well you heard of it

[twilit geode]

How’s lag?

[winged sand]

Rubbish

I was thinking back to when arena was stable. and come to the conclusion it was before they messed with it adding Impulse speed limitations. maybe they should remove the limitations and see if it gets back to how it used to be

[frosty cedar]

I'm accustomed to more bugs appearing as the day goes on, but this is my first arena run and I've already had to restart twice due to being stuck in warp

so, in two arena matches I've now had to restart manually three times due to being stuck in warp, been forced into restarting with the "Please check your internet connection" nonsense, and been forced to alt+f4 on the transfer back due to the "Failed to login" message

[winged sand]

I ended up with 7 dead ships at the bottom because i pressed repair and the ships did not repair, then started to repair then showed dead again

and im sure it double tapped all my instant repairs cos i run out after 1 arena even though i had loads

[strange mirage]

Yeah even for me who's accustomed to the lag on a weekly basis, today's arenas were particularly borked.
• GS31 beam was completely unusable (it killed the hostiles you beamed but the directives counter wouldn't update and would then lock out at 0 forcing a restart.......at which point your ships would be magically dead upon logging back in).
• Several occasions of armada timers freezing visually making it impossible to gauge when to put your ship in the circle.
• Ships taking up to 10-15 seconds to show the repair/token arena option instead of the regular repair/lat option (doesn't sound like a long time but in arenas in the middle of a fight that is an eternity).
• And of course the ever present (lately) "Failure to log in, retry?" option upon leaving every single match that doesn't seem to break anything, but still shouldn't be there.

[frosty cedar]

there's no possible way I've hit the hostile loot cap today, but I'm not getting any loot to start the armadas, as of this latest arena run. that said, even if I had hit the hostile loot cap, that's something that should really be addressed, because it really hobbles my usefulness

[zealous tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>
Let's play a STFC related game. How many issues can you find in this one SS.... i can see at least FOUR.

[pastel skiff]

Matchmaking still awful

[zealous tinsel]

yea it's bad but

1. -1 on the gs beam cooldown means it's not gonna work till i restart the freakin game
   2 & 3) while related are still seperate issues.... Armada timer is stuck at 29s & the banner didn't end when the armada fired off
2. my protector is in the circle but the circle isn't showing in the correct location...

oh add this as an obstruction for the whole match. can't see the score, timer or have a clear view of the system

let's add ghost ships to the list

oldie but a goodie

[heavy crag]

Arena = No Thanks.

[zealous tinsel]

this one is new for me.... i'm not getting directives when i hit fighers now

[inner plover]

have you hit the 2500 hostile cap?

[zealous tinsel]

i have not.

and if that's a thing with the arena it shouldn't be. i just hit a hostile outside the arena....

[frosty cedar]

I had the same issue. if you check my post over in #👾-bug-reporting, you'll see that it's an arena-specific bug, since I was able to get loot outside of arena

[zealous tinsel]

i haven't had this many problems in such a short period of time with the arena in a while. it's wild. and i love the arena

[ocean flint]

Matchups still need work. This was a quick matchup on a US server. Not off-peak hours on APAC or something. That guy had a vengeance lol.

[zealous tinsel]

just got booted from the game mid match

and now that i'm back there's no dock bar.

[true lava]

okay, seriously fix this nonsense

matchmaking is not only broken, the ships are just jumping all over the screen, any chance of beating players higher than you through tatics is just out the window

I cant chase down there littles when moving a cm on the screen is taking 12 seconds because of desync and the 72 killed me from across the map, and this isnt the cube in these situations either

I wanted to give this a chance but after litterally 60 sec of this unplayable nightmare Im going back to the ps4

https://klipy.com/gifs/mic-drop-obama-4

[dense olive]

The lag and bugginess in arenas that continues is a disgrace. Shameful

[chilly trout]

This mode is laughable. The lag. The uneven matchmaking. It honestly should be COMPLETELY redone.

It's clear to everyone that your game infrastructure and servers CANNOT handle 6 players in a small zone duking it out. It's embarrassing how bad it is.

You should adopt the model of other mobile games with limited computing and have the system handle the opponents.

Have players set 2 ships as their "Arena team" or whatever you want to call it. Then have the system play as the other players using their ships. This way you can actually get better and more even matchups instead of having to choose from the 20 players online who still use this mode.

[night stone]

Arenas are practically unplayable with lag. Oh and match making is still a joke.

[dense olive]

That’s it for me this week. Can’t even finish the SMS. Ships warping constantly. Can’t attack ships because they say they are about to attack an armada when they are not. The list goes on. FIX IT OR TURN IT OFF. STOP WASTING OUR TIME!

[true lava]

Pretty sure its illegal to advertise this game as a finished product and not something still in beta

[night stone]

They let software companies get away with it in the the USA for some reason.

[zealous tinsel]

aaaaaaaaand another one. this one was mid match. tho it wasn't nearly as impactful as the others. just mildly annoying lol

[night stone]

They should straight up embarrassed by how this game is performing.

[true lava]

at least with the way areans are, you generally know if you win or lose within the first 10 sec and can either do the work or take a break

it rare its actually fun and a fair challange, and not just another grind

[night stone]

More often than not when I see how imbalanced the matchmaking is, I just never bothered to leave dock.

[lavish flicker]

So much wrong with Arenas. 1. Awful matchmaking - I get stuck in an arena against ships I can't beat spawn killing me, 2. most available squads are never full and ready so I spend most of my time trying to catch a squad to join. 3. Lag is awful - I can't perform actions because the game thinks my ship or an opponent's ship is still in a state it is not in. 4. Event isn't open long enough to complete it. 5. Have to recall all ships to play. 6. Putting in a support ticket against arenas essentially responds with, yeah we already know it sucks. From now on, I'll just play 1 a week and get my loss and the first wrung of the event ladder. Fun fun...

[low socket]

I finished last arena match yesterday. Arrived back to home server. Changed back FC, Forbidden Techs, crews, ships. Sent miners to far mining zones (3 min to reach), arrived, took nodes. And after all these actions a second "arrive to home server" transfer happened 🫠

[grand fjord]

A another a bit laggy Arena but overall great. 💪
Few easy ones but most were good fights.

🖖🏻🤘🏻

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[ornate knot]

I would love to see an Into Darkness skin for the g3 Enterprise that gives it the special ability to insta-kill the Vengeance with just the right crew and tech. It would be strategic because a g3 ship is so vulnerable to cube or GS beams. And it would be a very cool nod to canon especially if Into Darkness Spock (captain), Uhura (bridge), Sulu (bridge), Checkov (below deck) were added to go along with the special ability of the skin.

[olive harness]

Lol imagine base defending against a vengeance.

[meager nimbus]

Honestly, anyone still doing Arena here hasn't understood it. Complaining won't help, so just don't do Arena like 80% of the rest. But you're probably the 20% who are the reason it still exists.

[keen sparrow]

Sorry to my opponents. They didn't bother showing up, can't blame them. All my matches last week were similarly one-sided. I know there isn't an easy solution, but doubt it's fun for most people to be on the wrong side of a match like this.

[frigid rapids]

I can’t enter the game! so I don’t show up in it, and that a disappointment. As even if I get killed every time 🕰️
but it’s nice to be in it if you get the opportunity.
I don’t get this game part you don’t even get to play the part of the victim sacrifice
(O. My. Days)what an abortion of a game.

But ℹ should get

But nope 👎 so I say in the home page see the other ships fly away

Dum game

[strange mirage]

Problem with this is, assuming they know what they're doing, your opponents had a decent chance at winning easily against your team. They may not have been able to beat your pvp ships (or they could, who knows 🤷) but they could easily beat your teammates and use tactics to avoid you. Problem is a) the game stability has been terrible lately in arenas, and b) the usual suspects on here crying from the rooftops that no amount of changes will make them play the mode and that it's so terrible etc etc just makes people not want to bother

If any scopely staff monitor this for actual feedback here's a few things.
First and foremost work on the stability. Lag is crippling in a pvp setting like arenas and can easily swing a fight because so much of combat now focuses on who hits first. You can add new things and tweaks once the core gameplay runs smoothly, but until then, adding more stuff just makes the existing issues worse and makes it feel like you're ignoring them.
Issues such as:
• Every week lately when a match has finished and I am loading back into the regular server I get the pop-up saying something like "connection error" with a 'Retry' button.
• The sheer amount of times we need to restart the game mid-arena match due to ships glitching out and getting stuck at 00s when warping in, only to find they are still destroyed upon relaunch.
• The GS31 beam causing a game breaking bug is a new one I encountered last week. Once you have beamed and killed hostiles, it doesn't update the directives counter at the top and still says 0, and when hitting more hostiles, it doesn't make a difference. Upon relaunch of the game, it then shows both your junker and the other ship you had in there as destroyed even if no opponents had hit them.

There are probably more, and no I am not including the matchmaker in this because that isn't game breaking, more of a "look at tweaking it once the arenas are working fully" issue. I agree it sometimes makes no sense and does need tweaking, but a major part of that is people not understanding how to work around it, and not understanding that the lower the population of arena players gets, the worse the matchmaking gets.

<@&509690795536941056> for visibility

[keen sparrow]

Zero chance they could stop me unless the game repeatedly crashed and/or I couldn't get back in. There's no way a 90M power ops 50 has anything that can take down a maxed G4 epic geared with max FT/CT or 1.6B Relativity.

[strange mirage]

True, I admit, I didn't look at their power (big yikes 😅😬). Still, as i said before, even if they couldn't beat your ships they could still have won the match but sadly the game stability is overwhelmingly making this more difficult each week.

[keen sparrow]

I've won the 1v3 several times because of afk teammates. They couldn't meat grinder me down with instant repairs, and I always have at least 1 ship with max arena speed. This isn't a flex, it's just the stats. Unless I'm up against someone whale-adjacent, or has been sandbagging their ops for at least a year, I don't lose any ships in arena.

[quaint dew]

I feel it's time for arenas to be rotated to another day, perhaps maybe tuesday

[white sorrel]

I think you have it backwards, we should be embarrassed that we continue to support a game that willfully makes decisions to not help out paying customers.

[gritty oak]

It's time for Arenas to be rotated into IA

[white sorrel]

Couldn't disagree more. The majority of people who engage in this content, are the high spenders. It's mind-boggling to me that they continue to ignore the people that support the game, and also effectively gate the benefits of that faction store because of the ineptitude of the mechanic.

The community should have come together like they did for free gaila etc.

[gritty oak]

With the exception that the community has hated Arenas since release

[safe frost]

Except the people who like actual PvP. The only issue with them is matchmaking because not enough people play them, or the massive lags. But it’s still the only hit of PvP many people get outside of incursions

And the speed limit, that’s still annoying

[dusk lotus]

💩💩

[rapid badger]

Lol... as you said "not enough people play them," That is the first hint that MOST players do not like arenas. I personally love PvP within the game, but hate the arena mechanic. I have played a grand total of maybe 5 arenas until I unlocked the Vindicator, and haven't touched it since. However, I don't really complain about it either since if some people like it, that doesn't bother me. I can just choose not to play it.

[lunar kernel]

arena three times a week..lol monday, tuesday and friday

add more useful items in mu store using arena emblems. etc. would be helpful too

[tulip blaze]

would you kindly not run arena during already unstable game? it doesn't seem to make things better

[torn cairn]

Arena unsticks stuck ships better than the devs

[cyan void]

lol lag

[errant forge]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

[cyan void]

lmfao they rlly used matchmaking to their advantage

[errant forge]

On the bright side it force recalled my stuck ship... 🥳😂

[rigid igloo]

is arena working
safe to start ?

[tough pebble]

Well aren not working for me as will not let me fight

[strong mortar]

not sure why this channel exists... no1 cares enough to fix arenas... hard ops locks need adding to the matchmaking filters... the jumps are to big between certain ops levels...

[safe frost]

feels like a self help group for masochists at this point

[strong mortar]

seems mad some little changes which youd like to think are easy to implement are being ignored...

[rigid igloo]

kinda true

[strong mortar]

this isnt fun....

and neither is it when im facing multiple 71s/72s

[rigid igloo]

done my arena sms
is still lagging and restarting game
matchteams is 🤮

[strong mortar]

ops 69 has to be one of the worst ops levels in this game... put me back to ops 60 lol

[feral nova]

Thx scopley

So what I need to do against 60 even if this 2 56 are ez for me

[visual parrot]

It’s a “gut check” ahead of g7

[craggy wraith]

How am I meant to take out that, it’s beyond a joke, also seen someone using a bot to charge their way to victory

[wraith turtle]

<@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056> Again with the beam breaking mid Arena match with only a reboot to resolve the problem. Get it Fix so players can enjoy the game.... Or we will find other game to play

[edgy glade]

I am trying to understand how the arena setup works. Everytime i try to play it sets me up in a group that gets beat everytime, EVERYTIME!!! My group level 53, 56, and 60, the other group 60, 63, and wait for it 65!! This is absurd and I won't be playing anymore.

[small seal]

Tell me scopely is it possible me ops 68 having even lower ops in my team going against two 71 ops players(active) with vengeance each, even if I have any posible ship, primes, offices and what not at my disposal, will we win? If not, why are you matching us with them? I am new to arenas might not understand some things but if it possible then please awnswer Yes but if not, again Why?
Edit: at least make unfair matches not taking away our hard earned rank points.

[zealous tinsel]

the lag is so bad i'm not getting loot again.

[fiery pecan]

No explanation needed

[subtle raft]

Fix the arena matchmaking. How is a team of 69 67 67 fair against a team that is 74 71 69.

[chilly trout]

I know Faster! He probably took great glee in this 😆

[subtle raft]

If nothing else limit it so that the teams you can join and the matches you are in are at least in the same tier level.
Before tier 7 was introduced I was able to make it up to platinum. Now I lose so much I have fallen all the way back to silver rank.

[shadow glacier]

pretty laggy right now in arena

[keen sparrow]

Very laggy, targeting is terrible, almost unplayable.

Now we're repeatedly getting an error in matchmaking, and multiple crashes.

[zealous tinsel]

re:

[fiery pecan]

So here's the thing Scopely.. you're trying to push everyone into PVP for the end-game. but if you CAN NEVER WIN ANY ARENA MATCHES... then it means there's no point to play. There's absolutely no point to spend in the game. I mean, I spend a lot... still lose to the whales. Don't spend at all... still lose to the whales. I guess that means there's just no need to spend!

[scarlet brook]

Is matching not working for anyone else

[snow narwhal]

is the goal for end-game to be that we just log in daily, collect our apology chest, then log back out cause nothing works?

on the plus side I'm no longer getting an error, I'm just not matching at all

[zealous tinsel]

nope. i'm trying real hard to compose a msg that won't prompt this discord server from blocking the message.... <@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056>
what's up with the arena. Every single Maint this game undergoes things seem to go terribly wrong in multiple different seemingly unrelated ways.
It's so bad you are very literally unable to keep up with the fixes.
Outposts were broken for many many weeks.
Arena... you instituted a speed limit and then said meh that'll do piggies.
You totally broke buffs and officers.... they're only sorta working now. ezri... not procing in round 1. some wonky stuff still going on with the newest break of outposts....

[spark cradle]

Big surprise arenas are broken, stuck in queue, can't quit, won't match up.. 💩🤡

#makestfcfunagain!

[snow narwhal]

#makestfcfunctionalagain

[uncut junco]

#iwantemergencyrations

[somber moth]

Stuck in matchmaking queue…. Won’t let me leave it either

[young musk]

Between the lag, uneven matches, and these bugs….are you guys ever gone fix anything?

[plucky flint]

sooo they gonna do anything about it?

[somber moth]

Can I get a refund for the past 6 years… thanks

[snow narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/szopo-gif-18626480

[toxic fjord]

yowza, I hope they can sort this jammed-up matchmaking out quickly. Not just arenas don;t work, but trapped in the queue. 🙁

[young musk]

Just got out of the queue, it’s a joke. Fix your damn game

[minor ice]

They should just send out a comp chest with 8400 Terran arena emblems and put us out of our misery until next week.

[sharp spoke]

Seems Fair MAtchmaking, for my first and last time playing arena, what a unrewarding experience

OPS 40 With Monaveen lvl 25 seems legit

[late python]

I would like to back out please

[hazy basin]

looking forward to the compensation pack that gives me two single pulls for 7 days

[narrow warren]

I’ve been stuck in the matching queue for 10-15 minutes, wonder if I’ll ever get out, lol

[muted badger]

I'm raising the matchmaking error

[hazy basin]

It's gotten biblical... the living will evny the dead was a low bar, but yikes

[craggy tundra]

If the arena is stuck on matching, and the starter isn't exiting the que, can anything be done?

[minor ice]

Seriously, though... you give us 8 hours to get through a minimum of 8-1 matches, and the game has somehow become even more unplayable than it was this morning. 8400 arena emblems for all players ops 40+, and get your stuff together.

[craggy tundra]

been stuck on matching for around 10m now The starter isn't doing anything

[young musk]

I’ve yet to see them give a comp chest for arena

[vivid gull]

Match making is not working

[hazy basin]

https://tenor.com/view/were-sorry-tony-hayward-south-park-s14e11-coon2rise-of-captain-hindsight-gif-22864475

[minor ice]

They did it not long after arenas first dropped. They had to retool the whole system for a few weeks, they sent out weekly comp chests.

[violet elk]

If you spend money or are at 40 long enough its very possible to have a high level monaveen

[young musk]

Well I’d like to see them do it again because it’s been a mess.

[vivid gull]

Has anyone even been able to play a single game?

[keen sparrow]

Not since 45 minutes ago. I've given up.

[snow narwhal]

I'd love to be let out of the queue

[stiff yoke]

Server 705 --> No matches since around 8pm EDT

[young musk]

It was fine up until 30-40 min ago

[snow narwhal]

well, "fine". The usual arena lag and jank before it collapsed completely

[muted badger]

Passed it on to the team

[late python]

Do we need to buy a prime leave queue pack?

[muted perch]

they broke it... wont match up error trying to leave que to restart que

[rocky verge]

it is a shame that matchmaking broke tonight since the lag was fixed...

[muted perch]

its letting me back out of que but wont complete matchmaking

[snow narwhal]

lol now it gave me the error again finally but didn't cancel the matchmaking to let me back out this time

[small seal]

I know what you need to do: say pretty please please work for me just once and click the button..., if not working ask them to give you emblems as reward for this mess

[craggy wraith]

Matching is a joke, the time limit is a joke, would of just been easy to do a pvp event for the weekend in selected systems instead of this matchup stuff which has only caused issues since it started

[full lagoon]

I get a vengeance, so I’m happy. 😃

[narrow flower]

I guess it's still down

[terse beacon]

you wonder why no one wants to come back to the game? let's continue breaking things and releasing more broken content instead of fixing what's already there.

[lament rain]

Can't get out of matchmaking, and no other matches are listed at all.

[muted badger]

At least today is working out well for one player...

[snow narwhal]

woo it let me out of the queue

[muted badger]

Team is looking into it

[snow narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/genie-im-free-at-last-packing-up-aladdin-gif-17680364

[carmine ore]

Stuck in match making for 10m

[terse beacon]

scopely speak for yeah we don't care

[carmine ore]

The amount of extra bugs and changes that are just annihilating morale. We need to merge all the severs to one for one active server

[lament rain]

You should see my alliance chat, it's not looking good for this game. It's been a devastating couple of weeks for issues. People are about the "peace out"

[quasi raptor]

arena matchmaking is a joke anyhow.

[hazy basin]

Also my DFA isn't procing

Oh wait, wrong game. I look forward to the comp chest that covers a week of arenas and not having to spend hours for it.

[hardy vessel]

How about the comp for arenas not working, so everyone gets free vengeance and can build it no matter the level😉

[full lagoon]

I can tell you, I love you guys today. 😉

[amber tree]

https://tenor.com/view/completely-broken-jaredfps-xset-fully-damaged-completely-destroyed-gif-22199718

[small seal]

Ofcourse you do, you getting a freebie

[scarlet hull]

Arenas are broken?????

[scarlet hull]

We can only dream 🤣

[lament rain]

Just got in a match. Matched very quickly

[full lagoon]

Probably better off not being matched.

[hardy vessel]

Let's go its working thanks Hammy

[plucky flint]

ya great matchmaking

[muted badger]

Ok. Those matches weren't great, but at least its matching again.

[plucky flint]

cant target, cant see anything in the system Lag fest

[lament rain]

1st match went fine just now. in 2nd match, laggy, arena system won't load. in this 2nd match, can't see anything in system

got system to load. targetting players just results in a spinning icon. targetting a solo armada to start just results in a spinning icon

Game just reloaded on it's own. can't see my own ships, can't see anything in system.

clearing localization fixed it and now I am in.

[full lagoon]

It’s not great

[small seal]

Just an idea, but can we include rank into account when matchmaking?

[rose locust]

basically someone needs to come up with a new matchmaking system, this one usually puts not-good matches together
and no, I don't always lose, when I win it's also usually a bad match (in my favor)
not "tweaking" something, make a new one

[true lava]

Yeah, 3 ops 66 guys just got matched with a 4 bill 70 on there side

[empty folio]

And that's the attitude of the devs. Who gives a hoot... Nice to see the mods licking it uo

[gritty oak]

Can't warp back to system after being destroyed. Can't Leave Squad. Can't complete Vengenace Arena Event. 0/10

[chilly trout]

Fix your matchmaking already or archive this whole mode

[full lagoon]

Seriously, the matching is horrible for the last year. Get it better, already. For god sake. Do you guys not care?

[spice fjord]

First time in arena in weeks. Can't get a match for over half an hour and Im against a p2w but wait no quit button! Gotta go afk and wait for this stupidity to end. Love this garbage.

[spice fjord]

Lol they do not

[chilly trout]

This mode is literally embarrassing at this point.

They have no system in place to make fair or balanced matches.

Their servers would crash running minesweeper.

I honestly think they need to shut it down and rework it from the ground up.

[minor ice]

You... should just stop, dude. That is not a good look.

Tossing one more on the pile, not that there's anything surprising about it.

[carmine ore]

So many people on 709 just giving up on the game it's sad

Take the game down for a week and fix it or something

[spice fjord]

So second match had to burn another 15 to get one facing another p2w I can't quit from. Match locks me up while everything else is moving at least 4 times and at the end I lost 900 but actually dropped 2k. I'm two matches in and down 4k rather than 1800. Is EVERYTHING broken?

[chilly trout]

Been stuck in matchmaking now for 30 minutes......

[minor ice]

<@&509690795536941056> I'm completely serious, you all owe everyone 8400 arena emblems.

[spice fjord]

Multiple restarts due to game locking up just trying to redeem random stuff, finally finagle into a 3rd match, at 67 with a 66 and 63 and we're facing a 67 68 and 71.

You're joking, right? This is a rib.

Oh and that match I should be able to quit but can't because Scopely hates players? Stick on Prep Phase 00 remaining while the match is going and I can't even PRETEND to send my ships into that waste of time.

[chilly trout]

<@&509690795536941056> tonight was embarrassing and a black eye for you guys. There needs to be some sorts of worthwhile compensation for everyone who suffered through this tonight or you're going to continue to hemorrhage players.

I've said it before and I'm saying it again. If the servers CANNOT handle the amount of data for arenas, IE 6 players frantically clicking and all the equations going on in the background, it NEEDS to do what other app games do for PVP and be more of a PvE/PvP hybrid. Have players set their defense ships or something, and they can be controlled by the system when other players fight them. Most PvP systems in app games do this, it's easier on the servers and take some of the precise timing killed by lag out of the equation.

[low socket]

<@&509690795536941056> There is a second transfer coming back from arena 2-3 minutes after the first one. Last night it caused me that my station was in 3 different places in the same time.

[craggy tundra]

when did they fix matching? I had to sleep

[hazy basin]

In fairness, a 70 needing to go 10m to beat you three... indicates structural issues. lol

[hazy basin]

add a 0, give us 10 weeks off so they can fix it

[lyric dew]

Yea, was stuck in finding a match for an hour and turned off the game. Very disappointing and wasted time for other things I could have done.

[hazy basin]

I ran out of time. It's great they have a large window for arenas, but between work and life, I don't have a 6-8hr window to play, it needs to work when I am available. I'm sure they'll weasel out of comp because some people were able to play. It's indifference, but worse, it's... boring

[minor ice]

Oh, they didn't. They already had two more group armadas counting down when I took that screen cap.

[minor ice]

Definitely agreed on the larger window.

It's also a shame how much I've come to loathe Friday evenings, when I actually used to really enjoy arenas.

There was a period where I was seeing a much higher percentage of my matches being pretty evenly balanced, with practically no wait time between games. But they've steadily driven players away by not addressing the myriad issues, which in turn exacerbates the biggest one: matchmaking.