💣-arena-feedback

[hazy basin]

I find in the first half of arenas you get better match ups, by the later side... Shamu, landshark and MobyDick rule the waves

[lilac lichen]

When was the last acknowledgment of Any arena feedback? <@&509690795536941056>

[hazy basin]

Last time I saw someone take this many punches so fast they stopped the fight, let them have a breather

[grand fjord]

Yesterday - yes, a bit laggy (much less than the week before!) and many great fights and it really was fun 💪🤘🏻

Arena ❤️

[white sorrel]

I assure you, they do not.

[craggy tundra]

So, I take it there will be no comp chest for those of us who couldn't do arenas? I know it was fixed but couldn't do it then

[inner plover]

It was raised, but haven't heard anything

[keen sparrow]

And what about the thousand(s) of dollars some of us have spent on a game that's become increasingly unplayable over the last year? I think we have the right to be frustrated, demand a solution, and expect honest answers for a change. I think more people should be posting to send a clear message before we vote with our feet. I stopped spending on this game last year, and refuse to give a dime until I'm convinced the product is around the same quality it was when I started playing and supporting it.\

[hazy basin]

Jesus, I can't even reply, content blocked. vote with your feet, the community mod isn't the cause of these issues, they're just put out there to take the venting.

[trim halo]

Officer shards I can earn on my own or already have don’t make up for losing out on arena points for pulls either. A weeks worth of chest pulls should be in order. 8400 to all who got screwed over and had their time wasted is the minimum. Nobody who quit the game already is gonna come back to this dumpster fire the way it is right now. Do better!

[hazy basin]

So... I notice we still haven't heard of a compensation pack for arenas... so no pulls this week? cool

[grand beacon]

get over it happens on rare occasions

[patent slate]

Anything on that chest yet?

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[gritty oak]

Can we put a fraction of the effort into ruining everything else into ruining Arenas instead and just make them an IA claim

[safe frost]

You haven’t played it recently, have you?

[low socket]

00s warp stuck. Thanks. Definitely sigma AT refresh tokens should be the priority.

[tame root]

Is Arenas ever going to get fixed <@&509690795536941056> ?

Every single week they’re utterly borked:
Ships not entering, no ships tó enter cuz your docks not showing, attacks not commencing, scanning loading circles, attack delays, not being able to attack anyone at all due to greyed out buttons, app resets needed, ships back in base after resets and all your boosts gone, etc etc.

Today wasn’t any different. Literally never had one single week where Arenas were “working as intended”😡

[lilac lichen]

No. I can’t even recall last time they even said ‘arenas’. Feels like <@&509690795536941056> are banned from this page

[foggy meteor]

Fix the lag in the Arena. Lost two Games because of it. Ship do not move, so cant get in the Armada circle. Fix ist damn ist. No rewards and time lost, great.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[drowsy breach]

ever thought of solo arenas? almost impossible to get a squad together

[chrome marten]

I have not experienced any lag in arenas since they were introduced, ask me how ... 🙂

[inner plover]

/taps head There is no arena lag if you don't do arena

[foggy meteor]

I guess you ignore arena😂

Why get I only matches with 71+ teams, despite the biggest Ops in my team is 69. I understand If one get matched sometimes with a Team some Ops Level above and sometimes some OPS Level below. But every .... time I have to deal with 1-2 Vengence and never get an easy oponent. How can this be? There must be Players on my OPS Level playing arenas or Not?

And the difference between a Ops 69 and 71 player is waaaay greater than a Ops 63 compared with a 69.

[winged sand]

its becasue Arena is so broke no1 ever wastes their time going in anymore except 70+ players so they can get their vengance Ship parts event completed.

And since no1 goes to arena it just matches you to whatever is there

[foggy meteor]

Ah, okay the G7 Version pays Vengence parts 💡 I guess I will Stop participate in Arena untill 71. Usually they are beatable, but with lag preventing me reach a Armada it's impossible. Like the SMS rewards, but today I got very angry bout the ..... lag. Not good for my mental health😅😂

[modest jasper]

Was ist das wieder für eine Sh show. Gewisse Spieler sind doppelt so schnell, die eigee Buffs werden deaktiviert...... Wo kann man solche Vorteile Kaufen und bei wem?

[winged sand]

you get this event when you unlock the ship

[odd bough]

Nothing like a level 67 grav blasting your vengeance and blowing it up from full health....

[terse beacon]

I'm pointing a big giant finger at you I'll let you guess what one

[last frigate]

Please, for the love of any god, FIX ARENA!!! the constant crashing between starting or trying to join is ridiculous!!!

[terse beacon]

no they want to push more useless trash at you first

[rose locust]

squads that are full and in matches are showing empty seats
it should be updating as the squads fill, not only when I press a button

[small seal]

Grey out buttons gets me all the time, its like he's there, I am here but for the love i cant attack

And try targeting your opponents that sits in armada area

[chilly trout]

For the love of God, lock brackets. G4 vs G4, G5 vs G5, etc. This shouldn't be that difficult to comprehend.

[plucky flint]

consistancy that NOT wanted with arena matchmaking.. why cant scopely get it thru the greedy heads

[dense olive]

Weekly reminder to scopely to fix arenas or just admit defeat and retire the feature please.

It hasn’t been fun for a long time, which is why almost nobody bothers with it any more.

[true lava]

Put the awards from areans into incursions so that becomes relevent again, and scrap areans. Done.

[spice edge]

That looks like an easy win, but on paper looks like you have the disadvantage.... I know the matchmaking is terrible, but that looks vaguely sensible. Also DarthAdama has a good point regarding territory.

[dense olive]

I’ve had as much “fun” as I can stand for one night. 🫡

[rose locust]

the fact that the game still can't keep up is frustrating
I actually had one of my ships disappear entirely for a short time (not destroyed, just vanished) as well as the usual: not moving, buttons not enabled, etc.

matchmaking: one match out of the three I did was somewhat okay (still lost, but not due to ridiculous things), one was disadvantaged slightly in the opposing squad's favor, and one was heavily disadvantaged in my squad's favor

[true lava]

this game stopped being fun about a year and a half ago, now its just habit

[true lava]

ships constantly getting stuck in battle in areans lol

seems like being stung = perma stuck

[empty folio]

So you had all week and fixed nothing... good job

[true lava]

Lost because of my teams ships getting perma stuck <@&509690795536941056> , need comp for the ranking loss, loss of rewards, etc

[acoustic hinge]

is matching broken again this week?

its been 3 or 4 minutes

[true lava]

wow

the lag makes it unplayable, completely, how can I move based on the enemy movments with the lag <@&509690795536941056>

why has this not been raised? @inner plover

https://competition-bureau.canada.ca/en/deceptive-marketing-practices/types-deceptive-marketing-practices/false-or-misleading-representations-and-deceptive-marketing-practices

https://scopely.helpshift.com/hc/en/19-star-trek-fleet-command/faq/8115-the-arena/?p=web

Cause nothing in areans operates how its shown in the advertisement

[spice fjord]

Need to be able to mark leaders afk to clear them from the team pool.

Need. A. Quit button. Half an hour to find a group and get into a match, 20 seconds to realize it's lopsided, 7 minutes wasted waiting for the game to end.

[heavy crag]

Need to end arenas completely.

[brazen torrent]

Leaders need to mark ready relatively quickly. I now join a group, mark ready, then check the members, if leader isn't marked ready I leave the group and try another. 9 times out of 10 that not ready leader is AFK or something

[austere swift]

Little late but it seems eu incursions are having similar problems to what I had with arena last night. During arena if someone did an armada I couldn’t attack them after it

[lucid sonnet]

#release Mirror Uhuru

[signal berry]

Uhuru Uhura 🤭

[red rose]

Soooo Scopely has reached the lowest of lows! They won't fix issues, and they will not delete my account when I ask since they will not address my concerns. Now they just close chats without any response!!! Great customer service!!

[past pelican]

Its broken, maybe play other games that have pvp in them and .. learn from them? PVP in this game is a money grab, thats all it is.

[lucid sonnet]

#release Mirror Uhura

[oblique oracle]

Arena sucks period

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[grand fjord]

Arena is great period 🤓

[lucid sonnet]

as scopely have demonstrated, reminding everyone of sales that noone bought because they didnt want them is OK every day. then by that standard we can remind scopely:

#free Mirror Uhura

[full lagoon]

#release Mirror Uhura

[frosty spindle]

Why not follow the excellent example of Sariss and Hurak Game mechanics and eliminate the Terran Faction from the game?

[young cairn]

Fix the glitches

[surreal gull]

@inner plover
Pls explain why i did not get 3x30 bp points?

[inner plover]

you're looking at the wrong number

look at the reward points, you got the correct amount

normal was 10i, triple is 30k

[surreal gull]

I dont get it; it says 3x points -after- completing the event. I dont see any 10k points anywhere there.
Milestone rewards sum up to 30k points too

[inner plover]

the 30k is the reward

10k is how much the event is usually worth

That is 3x the usual amount

[surreal gull]

Oh my…
Normally we get 20k points per day for bp. Not 10k

[frosty spindle]

They said something about changing it up when the BP now runs longer...

[visual parrot]

These daily BP points alone don’t matter as much as how far that number takes you along the BP and how many days (if any) you can miss.

So daily points as % of total points needed to finish BP is what you care about and the 10k, 20k or 30k is kinda meaningless without total points number.

[lucid sonnet]

i forgot to mention #FreeMirrorUhura today. ty

[visual parrot]

I need more ways to get terran stuff

[lucid sonnet]

need to remove or reduce some of the rank locks because there is no point in participating when you cant spend what you earn. scopelys AI really has zero idea.

[grand beacon]

Non-sense is its best weekly event

[oblique oracle]

You must not be as disillusioned with the game as me. I see another Scopely fail of a good idea that was executed poorly.

[lucid sonnet]

#FreeMirrorUhura - daily notice

[dense tiger]

I don't know what's worse: the pairing system or the lag... 😅
Let me be more explicit - team created by an ops 41 should compete against a team made by another ops 41, not by an ops 46... 😂

[cinder jasper]

Pairing is completely out of whack. 80M power ships vs 200-400m. Fourth arena in row.

[spice edge]

Has anyone else lost Golden Shield? Normal shield stays up during arena, is this one different?

[cyan void]

why in the world is arena feedback on slowmode, no one comes here 🤣

[limpid hull]

Fleet comander without fleet... 🤷‍♂️

[craggy wraith]

Arena 💩 matching from scope, I know they like to ban people when they get bad feedback back, each time it’s the same they don’t care and just take peoples money, the bugs, the battle pass and 💩 arena matches. All we get is poor excuses and told oh we will be focusing on this or that to help game play just to 💩 all over us again the next time they activate stuff they say they fixed. They are gonna lose more and more people if they don’t sort these things out, why should anyone buy a pass for this type of 💩 treatment, they are taking us all for mugs!

Look how many complaints there are here about it and they do nothing 😂 m o r o n s

@muted badger pass it on to scope, get them to check feedback or get rid of the channel because you’re just mugging everyone off with it if you lot don’t ever sort 💩

[gritty oak]

Arenas are going well I see

[zealous tinsel]

i'm getting REALLY (insert censored strong word here) tired of the broken a55 banners making me miss my armadas

[glossy cobalt]

Thats an easy one lol, id take g6 epics over a vengeance any day. At least id have a bigger chance of killing that than a vengeance

[craggy wraith]

Yeah they are like 200 billion, no chance at my level, don’t have all the arena boosts which doesn’t help but the matching is just wild

[frosty cedar]

there needs to be a brief lockout from joining the same arena group after being kicked from it. we've been trying to get a server-mate into our group for a minute, but the same guy keeps jumping back in

[craggy wraith]

😂 might of been me, they should let you do a server one as well as alliance and public one

Shouldn’t have anyone under 70 with those over 70 as that’s what’s making it worse, not hard fixes, they just take us for mugs, they don’t care about the game or the community, it’s the players that make the game bearable, if it wasn’t for some of them I would of been gone long ago

[thorn oar]

what is the point of joining an event and being ready and the one who makes the event dose not show to comepleat ,........ waste of my time .. they should be punished ...

[craggy wraith]

3 of us are 68 against 2 71s and a 74, explain how this is fair

[chilly trout]

For the love of God lock matchmaking to generations. G4 vs G4, G5 vs G5, etc etc.

If your unable to see why NOT doing that is needed then you have no business doing anything "pvp adjacent"

[chilly trout]

It's not. The devs are bad at their jobs.

[barren cairn]

I don’t see the issue here… many 60s can easily stomp an ops 64 player especially since g6 uncommons suck at PvP

[chilly trout]

The issue was we had 3.5b ships on average, and he had a 25b Relativity. It's bad matchmaking. No amount of good gameplay would overcome that and to think otherwise is nonsense.

[safe frost]

You can easily outrun one big player if it doesn’t bug around too hard

[chilly trout]

6 months ago.... Yeah, used to say the same thing. The lag is so bad now that you never know where people are half the time

[zealous tinsel]

frozen banners..... still.... Prep Phase stuck on screen..... cannot see the current score of the match.... can you please fix something. one thing would make me happy for like 3 days before we started btchin about something else

[true lava]

How is areans tonight? Should I bother?

[chilly trout]

Lag is like a coin flip tonight, you're either on the good end or bad tonight

[true lava]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lag-gaming-1--k01KQK3TAJDEP93HHSSGHR0DK1K

[autumn pewter]

Can we please have negative rep removed. It is very hard to bring myself to do arenas anymore as all i go up against are 73s with more ship power than my whole team in 1 ship. Then i just drop more ranking and am now silver and literally cannot spend any currency as i bought darn near everything. When you cant buy anything it kinda makes arenas less interesting.

[true lava]

yeah I just got a match thats not worth leaving the dock for

[random furnace]

How about fixing the "Can't attack after Armada" bug

[true lava]

okay, I gave it a try, can't do it. I'd swear more than I ever have if the discord let me, stuffs just bouncing all over the screen, and I get to a target and then next thing you know, I'm back halfway across the map being killed by a guy 3x my size

[zealous tinsel]

what's wrong with this picture....

[small seal]

Well I see your fleet is dead and you have nowhere to to 🙂

[chilly trout]

This lag is REALLY bad. They need to plug in some new potatoes to the server

[worldly hinge]

ur not being smart with who you queue with… having 3 players at similar ops/ship locks is asking for trouble lol

[craggy wraith]

What’s not smart is having bad match ups, or sorting out the issues with arena it was either that or get no one join, it’s not just me others are having the same problem but at least scope have a cheerleader in their corner 😂 👀

Why should I exclude the others at the same level either, not their fault the matching isn’t great and is a flip of the coin if you win or not

[worldly hinge]

nah scopes is 💩… bad match ups is bound to happen… you can do your best to avoid it by stopping q every 10-20 seconds… being smart with who your qing with is also good… best to spread out to spoof mm… ops 67 starts ops 71 and 63 join… two g6 will pull it down

[worldly hinge]

not really a flip of the coin if you find a good squad you’ll win more than 90% of the time… ive beaten a full g7 team with just g6 players

[craggy wraith]

The big ones don’t always join and we shouldn’t have to remove people to win, the matching should be better, I’ve had players at 71 and won but there was one at 74 like there is no way I could beat them or people lower

64s have been similar too, they have been given 71/72 to go against and it’s just not possible

[worldly hinge]

it is still possible ive done it… once again just depends on the players and mentality… if u speed thru it while kiting its possible… which is why teammates matter

[craggy wraith]

Some teammates don’t help but can’t really tell unless you play with them, it’s a shame as it would be fun if it wasn’t set up the way it is, once a week doesn’t feel enough either

[worldly hinge]

yeah need more since they messed up incursions 😕

[plucky flint]

thanks scopely... sooo much fun to be had

[light jacinth]

ships Getting stuck in warp. but for the enemy its sitting in the warzone. Clear cache and once you are back.. your ships are dead

now another round .. ships are stuck in battle... even tho its done attacking. .. the only way to fix is clear cahce and now ships are dead.

wasted tokens for repair... wasted ship ability currencies. wasted arena points and rating

[ashen pivot]

The matchmaking used to be decent. Now it seems to be on par with everything else in-game, which is not a compliment

[light jacinth]

one more bug that keeps happening .. after they attack an armada the target is not attackable

it stays like that for morethan 5 secs before i can actually attack them.

are we getting some RESPONSE here or this is just a ranting channel and no one is actually listening

[plucky briar]

can anyone from <@&509690795536941056> or <@&509691611903426561> please explain how a player < ops 71 who doesn't have a Veng be able to really participate in any sort of meaningful way in arena's?

[gritty oak]

You don't. Even if you have a low-mid tier one, you don't

[glossy cobalt]

If you're 71 your best bet is to join a 67 but even than you most likely end up facing another 70 who may have it or has maxxed g6 epic. Theirs a big power gap between g6 epic and vengeance sadly. The game is very unbalanced in those ops ranges

[thorn thicket]

I played some arenas yesterday. A little buggy my only issue is joining public teams just to be kicked out because I guess my overall power is "too low". I still usually win though. Then again I do tend to get stomped when I run into a group of heavy spenders.

[grand fjord]

Yesterday Arenas - great play!
They were much smoother than weeks before, almost no lag.
Matches were great, fights were fighty - and overall - another great Arena event 💪🤘🏻🖖🏻

[flint fulcrum]

You know I've only been in the arena two different times, to give it a shot because everybody was slamming it saying what a useless thing it was, and I'm seeing how it's living up to everybody's talk about it. So I haven't done it since

[small seal]

They usually kicking you out because of your rank not power and I noticed in early arena starts you get queued with a full high rank teams which unfortunately even if you good your team matters a lot in those situations, there should be creating matches based on rank, the only way to be fair.

[thorn thicket]

Rank has been maxxed since the beginning but I get it

[grand beacon]

A lot of people team up with stronger players, get their rank up and easy win but later get matched with stronger players of the same rank and complain about the balance if you stick to the same ranks and lvl players, a lot of the matches are quite balanced. Matchmaking is based on rank ops lvl and player power in that order as long as you don't try to chees it most matches will be fine most of the time

[safe frost]

what ops are you?

[thorn thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-6-gif-13220379118820914449

[safe frost]

Then you shouldn’t have issues finding a squad with a 71 or 63 🤔
Doesn’t make much sense joining a 66-69 or though

[thorn thicket]

You would think. Or I'm just picking the wrong squads that have someone else in mind

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[patent slate]

1 of the biggest problems is the store being tied to arena rank not Terran reputation. Every other faction store has some type of level lock. It is very easy to lose access to store items due to technical issues and poor matching making. I could maybe understand in Arenas preformed flawlessly and matching was realistic, but it's currently state doesn't support the rankings system.

[safe frost]

yeah some 70-71 squads only want other g7s, probably because they can't carry solo or don't know how matchmaking works

[grand fjord]

Warm recommendation - search in this channel things Roko wrote about Arenas - it’s almost a cheat sheet, it’s that good of advice 🤘🏻🙏🏻

[lilac lichen]

Oh I know…. It’s terrible.

[hoary gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bubba-trash-gif-12442729821018397541

[worldly sapphire]

In Scopely World, they consider that a balanced match.

[minor ice]

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
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2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

5. A "CONCEDE" option.

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

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I slacked off for a couple weeks, and didn't repost, so I'm playing catch-up today.

Also, we need to talk about the introduction of crit mitigation. This mechanic has a MASSIVE impact on the majority of combat damage calculations, and as it is exclusively the purview of G6+ players, there should be a hard line dividing teams and matchmaking between 60- and 61+.

We've already seen the battle logs, we know what crit mitigation is capable of. Do the right thing, don't make arenas even more of an unbalanced scam.

[lucid sonnet]

#FreeMirrorUhura

[warm nimbus]

For updating the Terran Faction. How about solo Arenas? Not
Replacing team, but one on one against only your own ops. I have so many more ideas regarding this… hit me up

[loud flume]

well thought out. Maybe you should work for Scopley

[minor ice]

Please. I have dignity, and a soul 😛

[torn cairn]

Ooh feedback.. arena is rubbish

[grand fjord]

… for some people. For others is great source of stuff and a great place to practice and check their real strength and I hope it will be around for a long long time 🫶🏼

[minor ice]

No, it's rubbish even for the people who are benefiting from it. See my weekly post.

[sly violet]

that would be interesting! Im down to that! op vs op would be really nice

[grand fjord]

For me it is not rubbish, I love it, I enjoy it, and I wouldn’t dare speaking for other people.
So, you do your weekly posts and I’ll do mine, k? 🤘🏻🖖🏻

[minor ice]

Lol okay. You can go be literally the only person who likes arenas the way they are.

Objectively, it's a terrible system for player value. And again, I say that as someone who has had the Terran faction maxed out for ages and currently have nothing to spend my credits on besides maxing out my currently-t3 MUhura.

[grand fjord]

So many more people, dude 😂 honestly!
But it’s ok. We can coexist and not agree.
I just hope your whining doesn’t take away the thing we enjoy. Thats why I try to voice that there actually are people that enjoy Arenas. 🤘🏻

[warm nimbus]

I like arenas the way they are. It’s the most exciting 10 minutes in this game. The only enjoyment left actually. But that doesn’t mean we couldn’t also have solo arenas

[minor ice]

Then where are these "so many more" people? There's a reason engagement has gone down like a boulder off a cliff since it was released. Matchmaking times are abysmal (as well as everything else about matchmaking 🙄).

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, dude. It's an objectively bad system. There are laundry lists of legit grievances all over this channel. Which, by the way, is why this isn't "whining", it's actually constructive feedback. I WANT arenas to be better. But no, I'd rather they scrap the whole thing than it continue as it is, and I guarantee you that's a much more prevalent stance than the one you're espousing.

[warm nimbus]

There are almost 400 players on my discord server dedicated to arenas.

[grand fjord]

I don’t know how else to phrase it but as long as there are people enjoying it, it is a very subjective view that you are giving.

90% of my alliance enjoys it.
We can’t wait for Fridays.
We do voice, share screenshots, do strategies.
For us it is a mega happy event.

We don’t enjoy lag and bugs but that has nothing to do with the concept of Arena.
Concept - we enjoy.

And I know many other alliances on our server enjoy it as well.

So when you call for scraping something you SUBJECTIVELY deemed as a bad system it does not sit well with me - a person that SUBJECTIVELY enjoys Arenas, like many other that SUBJECTIVELY, do.

[minor ice]

There are over 200k active players. 10% participate in arenas. That is not a good ratio. Your 400 are a drop in the bucket 🤷‍♂️

[grand fjord]

…
And there could be other reasons engagement has gone down - afore mentioned lag that people do not enjoy in general and I honestly think people give up after it does not work like charm for them.

Matchmaking has its workarounds but it’s a new skill and people kinda don’t want to listen.
Just on this channel it has been stated and repeated many times how to work that - but people don’t read. They come here and “whine” or “constructively criticize” things and do not change a thing in their gameplay.

[warm nimbus]

You should join. We can help you get better

[minor ice]

I don't need help. I have wrung very nearly everything out of arenas and the Terran faction. I'm not "complaining" because omg it's too hard. I'm bringing up chronic issues that make this entire system so much worse than it could be.

[warm nimbus]

Then go mine sigma trit

[minor ice]

• Arenas regularly experience severe lag, which has a massive impact on outcome.

• Brackets are NOT balanced in a meaningful way (see ship tiers).

• Players are actively punished in their progression if they don't consistently win (losing ranks, which are independent of rep).

• Just... so many bugs.

• Lack of various basic functions (team chat, etc.)

• inflexible scheduling that locks out a section of the player base from even trying to participate

These are OBJECTIVE problems that have been known about for ages.

If you all are enjoying a terrible mechanic, then more power to you, I guess. But don't pretend it isn't terrible, or try to hush up the people who are advocating for a better system.

[grand fjord]

Not pretending.
Not hushing you up.
Trying, though (and failing, apparently) to explain to you that there are people that see it differently. And it “hurts” me when you call for scraping something good and enjoyable for me (and people around me).

Thats why I said earlier - you do you, send your feedbacks, do them every day as far as I care. And I’ll do me - defend what I like and voice it.

🖖🏻

[minor ice]

I called for IMPROVING arenas. As I have done pretty much every week since I started doing them. I would much rather see GOOD arenas than NO arenas. If there weren't anything worth salvaging from the system, I wouldn't bother. I don't understand why you, as one who claims to enjoy arenas, wouldn't want it to be improved. Or are there aspects I've cited that you disagree with as potential "improvements"?

Yeah, I'd rather see NO arenas than BAD arenas, and have that time back each week to do something enjoyable or of actual value with. But I'd still rather have a good arena system than nothing. Which is why I consistently advocate for it.

[signal berry]

there is an OPS limit for being able to enter arenas

[lucid sonnet]

daily reminder

#FreeMirrorUhura

[gritty oak]

What this mean

[warm nimbus]

Instead of ragging on the only enjoyable event left in the game. Let’s get back to my idea of expanding the Terran Faction and implementing a second arena: Solo Arenas.
BTW I have Mirror Uhura maxed

[loud flume]

of those 400 players who cant wait for Friday, of they matches they play:

how many are 1 sided {aka beat down} ?

how many are an actual close challenge that win by 1 armada {900-1k pt spread} ?

How many are won through better playing even though the opposing side had way more power {aka punching up}?

Would those 400 not enjoy having closer more challenging matches?

I enjoy arenas, but I wish they would improve match making. It's easier to improve matchmaking with MORE participation.

It's no fun when in a match that is one sided either for or against my team's favor.       The truly exciting matches are when a team has more power than mine and yet we still beat them by the skin of our teeth b/c of strategy.     

Many player have tried arenas and land in matches where they are stupidly overpowered.. they get beat to a pulp, (1k-1 pts) and it is no fun, so they don't want to do it again. That is not a thriving system...

I liked GooSlimes suggestions for improvements. I just worry when we ask for improvement, Scopley seems to take things in the opposite direction. i.e. this new tournament nonsense...

[astral venture]

PvP in STFC is incredibly difficult to balance because a player’s effectiveness is shaped by many different game mechanics:

Ops level
Research completion
Prime researches
Officer stats
Officer synergy
Ship tier
Artifacts
Forbidden tech
Chaos tech
Fleet commander bonuses
Syndicate progression
PvP-specific researches

All this means two players with "similar power numbers" may have radically different PvP ability.

Short of making a game mode that ignores most of the variables tied to a player’s account power and instead replaces them with a fixed set of ships, officers, and standardized stats, Arena PvP in games like STFC (it's not unique, many MMO's suffer from this), will always be extremely difficult to balance fairly.

[lucid sonnet]

means theres some players that are just very bad at arena and will never earn gold3 rank to be able to get the shards required. has this changed?

[warm nimbus]

I agree that improving arenas is important. Engaging with other players, finding and communicating with good players and investing in resources associated with PvP is important also. I have really good teammates. I’d say 50% of the matches we play we are underpowered yet we rarely lose. I’ve offered help to players personally, created a discord channel dedicated to one single event in the game and if engaging in these resources seems unreasonable then get back to mining sigma trit.

[light blaze]

https://discord.gg/uWvA2KY7J

Dedicated arena server , training and match making. Plus just a dam good time. 👆

[small seal]

You should try arenas, at first when it came out it had very bad timing but since the change I get addicted to the thing, yes at first you will be loosing, it depends on your team actually and during that time you would get chance to see what other crews/techs/ships people are using, thats when your interests sparks, you start working on your pvp stuff then using your strategies on arenas, its fun when big boys come up to you and loose to your smaller ship.

[minor ice]

You should try reading my post.

[small seal]

I was reading your posts from begging and got idea you missing out the fun on aspect of arena but i agree lag hurts

[minor ice]

"You should try arenas"

But you read my posts?

[small seal]

Yes about matchmaking

What I meant is getting into it, I know you tried it but getting into it is different

[warm nimbus]

I like understanding the most advanced concepts of crewing and power while using strategy against other advanced players. Not some shlub with Khan on his Northstar

[small seal]

Yeah no one using Northstars but sometimes when I am out of ships i send any ship to armada if need it

Even miner

[warm nimbus]

I have all 8 of my docks fully committed to arenas. It’s a fleet preset!

[small seal]

Only have one preset and is being used for new borg armadas set up

[warm nimbus]

Half of my dock are support ships with speed/loot crews

[small seal]

Yes noticed people after getting defeated comes back all buffed and all, its fun

[warm nimbus]

GS, NSEA and Excelsior are my go to ships to support my primary

[small seal]

My Excelsior is T3 so not there yet for support, but cerritos and titan are good if you use seven abilities

Or is it locutus?

[warm nimbus]

I never use Cerritos/Titan/Mantis anymore. If the grav beam isn’t a good enough de-buff then my strategy adjusts. I’m currently not running an Interceptor as my hammer so I use 7 as the last FC

[small seal]

Yeah I am still beginner so mantis is always docked waiting, but I do have 6 fleet seats and all set up for pvp

GS is my go to ship too though

[minor ice]

Okay, I'll try again, since you've clearly not been reading my posts.

I do arenas. I "get into" them, whatever that means. Barring unusual circumstances, like being out of town, I do them every week and I net enough arena emblems to full pull the entire week. I've maxed the Terran faction and pulled everything from the faction store. I'm the poster child for what players can potentially get out of arenas.

So if anyone should be championing the current state of arenas, it would be me. I have nothing to gain at this point if they make improvements. But I'm still here every week advocating for those improvements.

So maybe, just maybe, I have an idea what I'm talking about. I've wrung just about all the value there is out of this system that anyone can, and I've managed it despite its myriad shortcomings. I'd like to see other players reap those benefits as well, without having to slog through the same garbage. Or, if we really want to get crazy, see more people want to engage with arenas rather than feel painfully obligated to.

[warm nimbus]

You are the ‘poster child?’ Did you see my screen shot of a maxed MU Uhura? Been maxed for many months too. Curious when you maxed yours?

[warm nimbus]

Clearly, you haven’t been reading my posts.

[midnight radish]

Would definetly like more stuff added to the terran faction as arenas are almost pointless for me now aswell

[lucid sonnet]

daily reminder

#FreeMirrorUhura

(reduce/remove rank locks)
players arent stupid, they wont participate for currency they cannot spend (because they cant reach the rank lock)

it reduces participation. and the issue will take weeks and several announcements to rectify.

[warm nimbus]

The negative progression hurt arenas There should be locks say at every level (gold,platinum/etc) and only the tiers should change. We don’t have rare or epic Terran credits yet. Introduce Solo Arenas which awards all 4. Increase the rep levels and arena levels (with locks) and allow this to unlock new rewards while also being a catch-up mechanic. Similar to how Krenim Formation armadas were a catchup mechanic for artifacts while allowing for new content in DTI

[lucid sonnet]

theres a lot of things scopely could do to increase participation, but they refuse. so its just a cycle of zero growth and has been for a long time

[warm nimbus]

Oh I know. It’s an endless stream of new unrelated content that no one wants rather than upgrading the 2 dozen or so mechanics that already exist and players clamor for.

[trim crow]

@muted badger Could not even form a squad to get in the arena...How am I supposed to progress in this faction? I am on APAC server btw

[agile forum]

cannot enter match

anyone with the same problem?

[minor ice]

Dude... who the hell are you? I wasn't speaking to you. And reading your last post, it sounds like you're advocating for basically the same things I've been (rep locks, for example), so I'm not sure why you're coming at me.

I never claimed to be THE best at arenas or pvp, my point was that I've gained (very nearly) all the benefits of arenas that there are to get, so any negative criticism I level at the system is not based on jealousy, frustration, or FOMO.

But congrats on your max MUhura, I guess?

[warm nimbus]

Thanks

[small seal]

I don't know man. Its just starting from: "No, it's rubbish even for the people who are benefiting from it. " and down to my post it sounded like you don't enjoy arenas, what brought me conclusion that you miss out on the fun that arena can bring you. But I agree that they are a lot of things about I dislike myself. Was just trying to share my experience and show you that you can have fun with it still

[modest jasper]

Stop it, its broken

diese müllhalde.

[dense tiger]

The laaaaaaaag... 🙄

[analog harbor]

im asking myself: whats the ....... reason, starting a squad but NOT pressing the ready button?!
going crazy about this!

[ebon brook]

It’s part and parcel of the game which is annoying

[small seal]

Is it normal that you don't have an option to contact one of your team members while you waiting for a match?

[night stone]

Your match making is a total joke.

[small seal]

How about we stop including platinum rank g7 members into g6 teams?

[strange mirage]

Sadly 40-42 is a pain point in arenas because you are at the bottom of the bracket. Literally everyone else you face is either as strong or stronger than you. It does get better and easier though if you focus on pvp stuff (no I do not mean spending) and become strong for your level. As for right now, accept the fact that you will very rarely be the guy handling the pvp stuff and focus instead on loot crews and speed crews and use tactics like joining and then leaving the armada circles until the last 10 secs etc. I know because I went through the same pain point and now regularly win 95% of my matches all the way through top of g4 and through g5 (currently ops58).

[quaint dew]

I'd like to recommend rotating arenas to another day, like Tuesdays or Wednesdays

[small seal]

I would rather have them start a little early

[gloomy rover]

💪 last night arena was a success finally re-earned bronze rank 😅

[shy ruin]

Whatever the system is for choosing matchups, delete it.

[lucid sonnet]

another daily reminder:

#FreeMirrorUhura

rank locks prevent currency spend = cant spend curency why bother to participate? = arena pool small because many players arent stupid - no point in participating if theres nothing to buy (because its rank locked)

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[cedar sluice]

ARENA CHAT TO YOUR TEAM MATES

[strange mirage]

Can we please have some sort of timer or penalty for people who create a public squad, and then go afk for half an hour? It's not even a one-off either, people seem to be doing it more and more to the point where you can regularly cycle through 4 or 5 teams before you find an actual active leader 😮‍💨🙏

[white wave]

Both the Alliance Tournament and Arena need major overhauls.

[grand fjord]

Arena - again - lovely as ever. Not even too laggy!
Some harder fights this time and that is a good sign - means ppl started to work on their pvp stuff 💪

Just lovely 🤓👏🏻

[half crest]

this is why a lot of ppl do not do arenas the matchups are so messed up and imo they need to trash arenas

[warm wagon]

Just the routine check: are Arenas still dead?

[grand fjord]

Alive as ever - and even a bit more if the last Friday feel was not an anomaly but new normal 🤓

[warm wagon]

It's been months now that I mustered the will to crew and attempt running some.

[olive harness]

Really isnt much reward in terran anymore now 🤷‍♂️

[warm wagon]

It's sad, because the concept is actually interesting, but the execution is poor (mainly the match-making). Also, the rank decrease is a poor idea. You needed to be rewards solely for putting up the will to stand 10 min of being smashed by the Paying Players. But no, you sign up, get crushed and LOSES rank, so you get pushed off the most interesting stuff like M-Uhura and few other stuff.

[minor ice]

Not dead, just begging to be euthanized.

[muted perch]

its amazing how the group of individuals we are trying to team up with are no where near the caliber of those we are forced to play against! no disrespect of fellow players, maybe to fix arena we should have a cancel button when we see our opponents. let everyone reroll until at least somewhat of a sensible match is made.

[lilac lichen]

I’m not returning until rank and rewards are uncoupled.

[grand beacon]

im f2p and i win 95% of my games. The problem is that people team up wth stronger players to gain rank, and they are nowhere near ready for arenas, even Rev mentions in his vid players doing it match making is broken because Players decided to chees the games and get around mechanics for easy wins. Some opponents I get are of a premium rank and lower power than i was at lvl 50 (im ops 56 rdy to ops up ). Yes, you get occasional bad matches. The people complaining most are the ones that didn't bother investing time and resources to make sure all research/buildings are up to date i will get ANY research done, even if it's almost mining less benefit, it adds up, including maxing my ships and buying hull plating it all helps as a F2p m normally power-wise ( at my ops lvl ) in top 10 strongest players in EU but i dont ops up for content just when im redy

[warm wagon]

Well, I'm also F2P, ops 61 going 62 exactly because I basically can't R&D anything else at 61 because either lack of specific tokens, or ops lock or (like rogue tree, galaxy tree, AT tree, Starbase tree, Starpath tree to name a few) are all researched out. I got a BIG amount of artifacts maxed out, maxed out officers, got every prime available from Alliance Tournment and essentially all other primes that one can get without paying. My D is T12, max hull plating and whatever faction creds can get for her. Other ships, tiered up into locked levels for each at this point. I'm the strongest 61 on my alliance, and ahead of various 62 or even a few 63s too. I do my homework, not claiming I'm anywhere close to a top or prime player. I'm pretty average, but still loose 95% of the matches, essentially because an ops56 can pay for stuff beyond my reach and single handedly kill the entire opposition.

What I read here most people asking for is not "easy wins while being lazy". Most people here asks for just a few reasonable tweaks to make Arenas available to a broader range of players (as opposed to the current state where it outstandly favors paying-players). Basically we are asking for a few crumbs.

• get rid of rank redution on defeat (you are already penalized enough to spend 10 min being smashed in an unfair match 90% of the time);
• you loose, you get points/rank for participation. You win, you get more. So everyone gain something;
• make the matches Shipyard-sensitive. Like, if you are SY 61 means you will only match other people with G5 epics. If you are SY 63, you can only match people with G6 uncs and so on. Anything different from this setup is unfair match.

[grand beacon]

its not in an arena match and done just after got to ops 56 but ship power means nothing just because someone is higher ops or has a stronger ship, doesn't mean you can't win

[tulip blaze]

well, you just don't take into account that majority of people who are doing their due dilligence in research don't care about arenas at all anymore, nothing of relevance has been done to make arenas worth the time since the introduction and probably won't. Not even the fact that you can beat a specialty ship with armada crew can change that 🙂

[grand beacon]

Would you like me to post several screens of 5 bil + fkr ships with pvp crews ? And yes, the majority that can't be bothered to do their due diligence and complain about losing to players who do that . it might be a speciality ship with an armada crew, it doesn't change the fact its over 16 bil stronger and lvl 67 player, plus the amount of time i see people in arenas with armada/hostile crews is insane if no one cares about them, then why keep on asking to change match making

[sly night]

especially when they use armada crews lol

[grand beacon]

Higher-level players with a few bil stronger ships and they are using pvp crews, as I said, nothing wrong with mach-making just because the opposite team has a bigger player, you can still win

[lucid sonnet]

daily suggestion:

#FreeMirrorUhura

remove/reduce rank locks. players arent stoopid, they wont participate for currency they cannot spend.

its like asking you (scopely) for a 99.99 BP and paying you with soil. you wouldnt accept it.

[grand beacon]

Agreed, while they at it remove fkr ranks and locks in pve im sitting on 1+ mil on all 3 of creds and there's nothing in the shops i need/want to get and its same mechanism you kill 1 fraction hostile and lose rep to other and all other locks too. Why should I spend time and effort to do waves/armadas kill hostiles just remove the lot

[sly night]

MU crews are not good though?

[lucid sonnet]

not anymore, once players got 50-100% shred in pvp the impact of the apex that picard provides isnt enough to overcome anything worthwhile ... which is why they need to release MU-Uhura from the rank lock into general acquisition because she is the only officer that will make MU crew relevant again. theres too many shots from other pvp crews.

and lets not bother mentioning the iso ... when youre only dealing maybe 10% of raw.

so a daily reminder

#💣-arena-feedback message

[rigid topaz]

MU farming and Relativity wreckage turn in will get you billions of faction rep quickly.

[river temple]

Yet again, a matchmaking game that completely fell apart. Of course, we've added the usual bugs and lag; we shouldn't change the malfunctions, it would be a shame to do our job properly.

[grand beacon]

lol the token low lvl didn't work you got normal opponents, not weaker ones?

[grand beacon]

it was sarcasm im almost 70 bil on all 3

[river temple]

Silly remarks, I'm not looking to play against weaker opponents, I'm looking for a real match, and when you don't stagger the difficulty, it's 100% three times the strength of the opponent.

[grand beacon]

but you have 71 in the group hes premium 1 and you guys got lower rank oponent

[river temple]

You know what I do? I start a lobby, people join, and the game starts. I don't pay attention to who joins! Why? Because no matter what we do, we only get one decent game out of 20. The rest is just garbage!

This content could be good, but it's bug after bug, lag, and the matchmaking is absolutely terrible, so it's 100% crap.

[agile forum]

great matching 😄

[visual parrot]

You can doooo it!

[rigid topaz]

The math for any game's matchmaking is pretty brutal. However many players you think you need to have robust matchmaking that is "fair", you need way, way more. I will always get matched with much higher opponents. Almost never other G6 players. Luckily, a lot of G7 players will want me to try to lower the average power and get an easier opponent but I often end up just stinging and doing GS-31 cheese.

[leaden sable]

Youl'll never learn that scopely, your pairing is bad. and gliching is really bad

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[ocean relic]

Arena experience today

[feral nova]

🫩 wel done

😮‍💨😮‍💨🫩🫩

[hazy basin]

lol 🤡

We really need a second way to get points for the drip, it's silly how bad this stays

[chilly trout]

Another week, another plea to have ops based brackets. G4's cannot beat an equivalent G5. A G5 cannot beat and equivalent G6, and a G6 has no chance against an equivalent G7.

Lock teams by generations.

[chilly trout]

The less people play the worse it gets. They should just make it a pve mode and use bots at this point

[hazy basin]

<@&509690795536941056>

woops, already got it, well played

[hazy basin]

The sheer amount of people who open a room and never hit ready tell me they do have bots

[iron hare]

You guys really have a sense of humor...👌

[grand beacon]

was fun bloody match making

[iron hare]

When the weakest member of the other group is as strong as the strongest member of your own...😂

[feral nova]

They can do it, ita a good idea, but at the same time for people who don't like PvP. I like pvp when i fight a f2p player but I'm not good enough to beat people who aren't free-to-play in PvP. So Arena i dont really care that much but when i see that matchmaking pff

[iron hare]

Oh, I see...
It's supposed to be like the Kobayashi Maru test!^^

[young musk]

Stuck in arena queue for 10+ minutes now

Either no one is playing (because they quit the game) or something is broken.

Seeing a lot less teams today so far when it was working….

[chilly trout]

The lag is hilariously bad tonight. Digit should be extremely embarrassed by this sort of game performance

[young musk]

You know what’s bad, they made updates to alliance tournament twice in 6 months and have done nothing to improve arena. Probably doesn’t generate money for them so they don’t care.

[night stone]

Your match making is terrible, do better or add a surrender button.

[summer loom]

You must learn how to game the matching. The team on the right knows what they are doing. The team on the left has a lousy mix. For arenas you need a starter, a stronger player 4 ops levels up from starter and a small player 4 ops levels down from starter. This gives them the best chance at a good match.

[young musk]

Like what are you even doing here <@&509690795536941056>

I’d rather stay in a queue u til a team populates at my level or don’t even bother playing. This is not even possible to win against a G7 player at this level.

[summer loom]

71's onlly have g6 ships still. work on your team set up. It is not optimized

[young musk]

He has a vengence

[summer loom]

that's still g6

[young musk]

It’s still 100B more than my biggest ship

[summer loom]

their team is optimized. starter plus small player 4 ops below starter and strong player 4 ops higher than starter. This will give you the best chance at a good match

[young musk]

It legit does not matter, there is hardly any one playing arena and the game is looking for any possible matches if it can’t find one in range.

[frosty cedar]

was the algorithm for matching tweaked this week? my previous group (66/62/63) three times in a row matched with a 68/64/62, despite waiting several minutes between queueing. this current group (66/64/60) we first matched with a 54/56/69 and then a 71/63/66 and now a 70/66/70

[young musk]

There are very few people playing arena, it’s very obvious why. Tons of people have quit the game at the higher end.

[frosty cedar]

I wonder if the low participation might be due to people joining arenas and not contributing, Cmmdr :p

[young musk]

What do you mean “not contributing”? We crushed the team we played until we had to play the 71

[frosty cedar]

last match you didn't show

[young musk]

When did we have a match? I’ve been stuck in matchmaking the entire time

[frosty cedar]

ah, you got caught with that bug. have to restart

[narrow condor]

Trying to grind the Terran Faction Reputation is stressful when the arena only happens once a week. And when there's hardly many on at the time when matchmaking.

My suggestion is for the Arena to be accessible all the time until it requires maintenance.

Also a feature request for future Incursions. Why not make the matchmaking cross with another server?

[young musk]

Ugh, I’m sorry. I had no idea? Thanks for telling me.

[visual parrot]

This quick chat would be really funny, if it wasn’t so sad, about the state of arena

[spice fjord]

I've missed a month and my first match back I'm slapped against a whale my level. I can't fight this guy. Let us quit already!

[frosty cedar]

it's been fine all night, but I am no longer getting the loot from the arena hostiles to start the armada. I'm nowhere near the hostile loot cap

I don't think the hostile kills are even increasing the score either

...and randomly I'm getting loot, and kills are scoring, again

[small seal]

Lol, I think that was us but lower guy was 60 on our team.

[odd bough]

I did my 12 arena losses for the sigma trit and rare crystal.

Please match off the top 2 arena ranks for matchmaking.

[hardy shell]

The game said I lost my internet connection (which is false) and it restarted my game mid arenas match. Came back, no ships to play with 😒

[warm nimbus]

Ezri is not triggering in round one even when Hierarch does. It appears she also doesn’t trigger consistently. I have screenshots

[lucid sonnet]

#FreeMirrorUhura

you know this is the daily reminder to make arenas great again.

[grand fjord]

Mega. Arena was mega last night.
Loved all my matchups.

Some were hard (but yeah, sometimes we need to face our fears and my fears are alt accounts 😂) - but even those fights were mega!!!

Thank you for having Arenas. It is a great place to check where we are. All is great.
Lag - not really great for all those nice and nuanced fights. But yesterday even the lag played for us.
Also managed to find lovely new people to fight with.

Just lovely.
Yesterday - just lovely.

5/5

[strange mirage]

So many of these posts about bad matchmaking with a screenshot attached make me laugh. Sure, you had 1 bad matchmaker, we all have those. A lot of these can be mitigated if people just learn to game the system. I.e if you are a pvp focused player, join people lower, if you aren't pvp focused, join higher ops teams and bring speed/loot crews on support ships

This game for example. If I had lost this match I wouldn't complain because of the 11 other screenshots I have of other more balanced match-ups

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying arenas are perfect (far from it), but people posting 1 bad match out of however many they did and calling it all trash doesn't help anyone. Not to mention the smaller the population of arena gets, the worse your match-ups are going to be

Yes this is every match I played this week, and no I haven't cherry picked only wins (before someone inevitably says it)

[toxic shoal]

Bottom line Arenas are boring and the new rule changes to make Incursions onto Server vs Server Arenas instead of all out killing wars like they're supposed to be is super boring too...

[lucid sonnet]

youre lucky the mods havent muted you for posting too many screenshots in a single go 😂

[strange mirage]

If they remove the post I'm not fussed, it's not to spam but to show examples, and all contained in one so I doubt it but who knows 🤷

[warm nimbus]

I’m more concerned about Ezri not triggering round one even though Hierarch does

[flint fulcrum]

Arena still sucks.

[grand beacon]

than dont play it easy solution

[small seal]

Wrong, arena is one of the thing that keeps me engaged. If you bad at pvp, learn see what other people using and do the same, if you can't then learn how to cheese armadas, hint use speed crews, you can even sometimes use lag to your advantage, don't judge by few fail attempts, if you invest your time I promise you going to like it

[cyan gulch]

Arena pvp has nothing to do with pvp in e.g. incursion due to all the extra stats you get with arena research/fc

[toxic shoal]

Well I highly doubt it but to each their own haha at least some like Arenas I guess🍻

[toxic shoal]

Players not playing is what ended the Arena style Incursions after one attempt it might do same for actual Arenas in future too...

[tulip blaze]

we won't, but I am still amused by people here defending the poor design choices of arenas, it's great it's working for you, but overall it's dead feature for low ops and whales atm. Perfect example of survivorship bias. In G6/G7 it's completely different experience, it doesn't matter how well you crew, they keep adding things for spenders to steamroll anyone not willing to pay. All the while it would require one simple change to at least motivate me to try - remove the rank locks in store, which we have been suggesting since the start. On the other hand most rewards in that store became all but irrelevant now, so it may be too late for arenas anyway.

[grand beacon]

yeeah but if you looking at this like that, then remove ALL rank locks from ALL fractions not only in arenas at the moment. I'm probably the most active player in arenas in-game. Is it perfect? NO. It's annoying when you start hell, yes, before I had any knowledge/ships/officers. I spent days just losing all evening. If I had 1-2 wins that was an achievement but I didn't expect to win against players who put effort in their accounts, especially against anyone who was PvP-focused. Matchmaking is not perfect but when you try to have 1 low lvl 1 mid and 1 high to boost your winning chances, you wil end up with having 1 overpowered player in most matches but that's players trying to chees the games. I myself helped players who shouldn't be in arenas to get premium 1 and ii get asked quite often to boost people. I just try not to do it as its not fun but you are ending up with a very unbalanced base and 1 sided games

[tulip blaze]

you're missing one significant thing, for most factions you cannot lose rep, or at least there are locks on FKR, arenas? no such thing, which kills them for me. ain't gonna spent time, only so few bad matches can throw me back to start

[grand beacon]

kiill any fraction hostile or do any daily you lose rep yes you have locks but when you start its as much pain as it is in arenas

[tulip blaze]

difference being you can avoid doing that, we have no control over arena matches

[grand beacon]

you can avoid it in arenas to invest in PvP-related stuff and you will start winning my son plays this hhis struggling to get the 10 mil lok for ages now and he cant get fkr ships without ranks same thing

[tulip blaze]

well, I still fail to see the similarity, especially now that you can farm rep very easily in MU, even automatically with dauntless, so you don't have to even lose faction rep. Things in terran store are locked by rep as well btw, but the locking by rank, which has no locks and is very easy to lose, is just not the same thing

your argument "git gud scrub" is not relevant in pay to win game like stfc 😄

[grand beacon]

yes but you need to get it first in order to do all that stuff if you put as much time in arenas as you do in other aspects of game, you wont have anything left to get from fkr shop in less time and refinery is locked by ship tier. The amount of time you have to invest to tier them up and farm rss to do it is much higher

[tulip blaze]

may be for you, but I'm on lower end of G7, any match I enter is going to feature maxed vengeances and epic G6, stocked with maxed FTs/CTs, so yeah, back to my original point that it's simply not worth the time for a lot of players, which ofc don't bother giving feedback anymore, since it's fallen on deaf ears anyway... glad you're having fun, but arenas overall are not in any way good feature, if only whales and lower ops have good time

[grand beacon]

i still g5 almost maxed out for my lvl f2p so I can't say how are arenas are in G6+ but up to now I don't see as many problems as people say. Then again im sitting on over 300k emblems so I could stop playing them and would have enough to probably max out the shop and yes I spent time focusing on pvp (winning most of the time) so my opinion is biased

[tulip blaze]

tbh I'm not sure why you even argue against removing rank as store requirement, it wouldn't take anything from you and others enjoying arenas, they could even keep it for cosmetic stuff like avatars, but never made any sense for mostly pve stuff there. Could actually make more people play arenas, thus mitigating matchmaking issues which were there from the beginning, would even be simple change. But scopely rather invested in public groups, probably because more people participating would break servers 😄

[grand beacon]

Because I invested time to get there as for PVE stuff, there's a lot of fkr stuff that has PVP-related items/research i will have to spend ages in the mirror to get it in terran store. There's nothing that any pve player must have (there's stuff to make your life easier but can get by without them) in my opinion, if you were to remove pvp ranks you should remove fkr ranks too only thing I care about in fkr shop is the ships that i will use mainly in arenas ( speciality ships are good enough for pve) so im being forced to do lots of faction grinding just so I can play pvp why pve players should have all benefits of pvp store without rank restrictions

[tulip blaze]

you keep repeating the same thing, but FKR rep locks is something completely different to rank locks, those are extra and completely unnessary in store, unless you noticed, there is rep lock in terran store as well 🤷‍♂️

apropos, back in day there was a lot of upheaval about no locks in FKR, so they were added, even that would be half-acceptable solution for this rank nonsense

[grand beacon]

Ranks don't matter, they are so easy to get and to lose one you have to have a very bad day ( again, I'm Premium 1 for ages so arguing from bias point of view ) my son is Premium 3 he plays random groups and has no idea what hes doing, hence why I don't get the drama about ranks

[tulip blaze]

because it is an issue for other players, this a feedback channel, would be nice of you to stop dismissing it, just because it's not an issue for you 🙂

[grand beacon]

you might be right, but as f2p player that was in the same position as all others are i just know if you put some effort in it is not as big an issue as people make it out to be

[tulip blaze]

that's where you're wrong though, unless you played on other account, as ops 56 you are nowhere near same position as others, max ops is 80 now, you live in completely different world, we can pick this up when you get here 😄

[grand beacon]

if you look up i did say earlier I'm in g5 so I can't express my opinion about arenas in g6+ i know very well how different the game becomes with each stage im sure i will change my opinion on a lot of stuff, same as i did when i moved to G3/4/5

[small seal]

I started playing arena in my high g6 and yes its hard, took me about 4 months to reach gold and thats because my last run was successful, I was silver for like 2 or 3 months so yeah rank lock in g6 and up would be nice but I look at this a part of the game rule and go from that

[lucid sonnet]

a sense of achievement when you reach gold 3 will be more rewarding than anything else in the game, but many players will have already looked at the path youre on and decided that spending 6months to try and reach that goal to spend the currency for Mirror Uhura is just not worth it.

which is why the daily reminder needs to be said:

#FreeMirrorUhura
#ReduceOrRemoveRankLocks

then more players will eventually start participating, its a hard slog unbrainwashing players.

[tulip blaze]

seriously 4 months? and you're arguing it's enjoyable? I reached gold III in like 4 runs aka a month, before they capped impulse speed and everyone stopped playing precisely because it became purely p2w content. There were setbacks even then, but if you played cleverly, you had a chance. Arguably was the impulse breaking it? Sure, but instead of actually fixing that, they capped impulse and killed it, so have fun by all means if you do, but I have no desire to suffer for nothing 🤷‍♂️

if the argument is "we had to suffer to get where we are, so you have to too", then you shouldn't use MU for rep farming, because people had to do it the "hard way" before MU was introduced and it's not fair then

[small seal]

Maybe it was easier then, but i started arena 4 months ago after the impulse cap and most all established players active, you know how hard to join high rank teams when you are newbie?

But yes I enjoy the proccess

[tulip blaze]

yes, that's why I'm advocating getting rid of store locks based on rank. The only reason it's hard now for both joining and fighting is because mostly only whales remained.

[sly night]

I got to plat being the weaker player. Even with capped impulse it’s not hard to win against stronger opponents

[lucid sonnet]

loan me your hierarch ty.

[tulip blaze]

again, good for you, had different experience the few times I bothered to try, just giving my feedback, as probably for a lot of players. Since participation is probably way less than 10% at best, it may be needed more than "success stories"

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranstore

[cyan void]

few people may say that its doable and it may be, but the fact is the participation rate of arenas has dropped so much they literally need to incentivise players to even play arenas. its currently that bad

[tall bobcat]

where is my new bagde <@&509690795536941056>

[sick spruce]

Where's our player_title_name_78 badges?

[cinder lantern]

This

[tall bobcat]

i want now

i vote for "whats ROE"

[sick spruce]

It says I have a new title, it's just not in the list on the title selection screen...

[tall bobcat]

and its still a mystry as to what it will say... hopfully its not lame

[signal berry]

i would like to see "Looking into it..."

[tall bobcat]

Slow mode.. you mean we #^%# up mode

[trim crow]

Please move arenas to weekends? I missed last 3 weeks cause I cant run arenas at work 🙁

[velvet condor]

Probably “arena masochist”

[rigid igloo]

arenas crashing
this team is incompetent and shp

[halcyon kelp]

arenas take WAY too long, between the ages match making, the 2 minute dead time, the 30 second deadtime staring at the score and the more often than not 10 full minutes of grim because everyones either too incompetent to score or too lagged

[summer dove]

8 Arenas, many battles and 0 score. Made by Scopely 🤮

[inner plover]

do you have the refits?

[cinder lantern]

@inner plover Any ideas about this badge? Or at least, what's it supposed to say?

[spice edge]

Also curious, don't know what I'm grinding for.

[surreal sorrel]

where my burrito mystery title

[glossy cobalt]

Lol as always when a new event drops it never works👌🏻 Typical scopely👍🏻

[zealous tinsel]

@muted badger
1st off LOVE the new events
2nd that said.... come on... I'm an ops 70 with a vengeance that is not allowed to buy the Vengeance refit because i'm not a 71 and there's no way i'm wasting $99 on one of the epic refits... that's a lil frustrating

[rocky crypt]

Matched 3 times in a row vs the same team. This is stupid.

[warm nimbus]

Woohoo!!!! New arena events 🥳💃🏼

[brisk rapids]

Because this is totally a fair fight...

[spice edge]

Title is broken.

[viral condor]

arena lag is beyond measure. i hope you die

[spice edge]

Says new title is there, but it isn't.

[velvet urchin]

Please explain to me how this is a fair match? What metrics do you use to justify this match????

[warm nimbus]

Really frustrating that Ezri isn’t triggering the first round that Hierarch does. She used to work right

[stiff yoke]

This doesn't look right...

[tall bobcat]

Looking at their rank vs yours you had a chance to out the play them

[tall bobcat]

@inner plover where

[spice edge]

There's a little red indication that something new is there, but it doesn't show up in the list.

#👾-bug-reporting message Other reports.

[worldly rapids]

Love the Arenas Regional ALB!!

Thank you for doing this and helping keep Arenas alive

[tall bobcat]

Shame they won’t let us have our prize

[tall bobcat]

I’m well aware… I want my new badge

[late python]

lmfao FR FR.

[hazy basin]

<@&509690795536941056> game's broke, Becks outside should have told ya

it followed me to the real world like the girl from Ringu

[plucky flint]

nothing to see here. just the normal

[inner plover]

clear local and it should show properly

[small seal]

3 times the game lost connection today and had to restart. One happened while I was in armada and my ship was targeted but the timer already past of them to attack me, when I came back armada did not scored, second time when I beamed a player and third when I send ship to active armada and don't let me start on lag, it was huge. Also on match screen you can only see one or two players you are going against with

[torpid cairn]

Sooo, how is a starter of level 63 possibly paired in a match with a 71 starter???
Get your act together, Scopely

[idle timber]

Explain to me like I'm a 6 year old how this makes sense. 150 billion titan. You wonder why you are losing players. Like it's a question you can't answer.

[surreal sorrel]

talk about a letdown, we were waiting for the Retrieving… one 🙄

[rose locust]

it's not very good today again, the lag is bad
match was ops 49, 51, 54 against 52, 56, 60 (with an absurdly low powered 52 but that doesn't really help)

also had a ship at the impulse cap of 275 that was being outran by the other ships, which was fun

while I know it is possible to punch up, you have to admit that me defeating a T12 Ent-D is unlikely

[strange mirage]

Scopely what is this matchmaking? This is ridiculous, it's so unfair, I can barely kill that 61's ships....
.
.
.
.
Oh wait, we won? Huh, maybe it's not just who has the bigger ships. Funny that 😉

*For people wondering how: yeah, we couldn't do anything about the 61....so we ignored him as much as we could, used the timers on the armadas to our advantage, used hostiles to interrupt incoming attacks, and I was able to take down the 60's ships. Could have been even quicker (it went to the timer) if we had a full team but this was mainly 2v3 as our leader went afk after he got killed once 🙄

👆 another 2v3 fight (same afk issue) and this time we couldn't beat a more evenly matched up team because they knew the tricks (though the lag was horrendous during this one so that didn't help 😮‍💨😅) still, fair play to them, GG 👍

Feedback: arena's still fun - please fix the lag issues though.

[fringe iris]

Ffffffffffffffffffffffffudge arenas. Sick of going against g6 players when im barely in exploring g5. And extra doses of fudge for these pay to win bs tech. Not going to rage bait me into spending another penny on this game. Super duper done.

[plucky briar]

<@&509690795536941056> how is this possible????

[stiff yoke]

I won for 705 for my tier, so I'm pretty jazzed. THANKS FOR THE ORE.

[rose locust]

if you don't know where your ships are, where the hostiles are, where the opponents are, and if the opponents are attacking... interrupting an attack via hostiles does not work so well. otherwise it does, sometimes people get so frustrated they just give up and go do armadas instead. but no it's not just bigger ships

[clever lark]

This is a pay event, you have to buy the new ship skins and migrate crit damage in PvP.

[strange mirage]

Yeah..........hence the feedback of "work on fixing the lag" and the match I lost which was partly due to what you described.......so....thanks for the reinforcement I guess? 🤷😅

[rose locust]

you're welcome! glad I could help!

[warm nimbus]

Ok Scope good job on adding new events for arenas!! Remember what we talked about: Solo Arenas and updating the Terran Faction!

[flint fulcrum]

Don't praise them on adding anything, they can't do it without breaking a bunch of other 💩

[drowsy breach]

Used to truly enjoy arena, played every week. Have skipped the last 2 and really, don't miss the frustration.

[grand fjord]

Great Arena the other evening. And some lovely new players. Forza Arena and it’s so lovely to play with new people that are happy to learn mew skills and upgrade their old skills 🤘🏻💪

And lovely new event! 🥳

[warm nimbus]

Just a reminder Scope that my birthday is in July if you were looking for a good time to implement Solo Arenas and expand the Terran faction. FYI no one wants more unrelated soon to be outdated content every month.

[velvet urchin]

It is difficult to out play someone who has three times your strenght and destroy you when you enter the common sector.

[grand beacon]

but can be done the 62 on our team was just a waste of space

[spice edge]

What was the 64 like?

[spice edge]

Unfortunately you're not really important on that team, if your Plat 1 can deal with them you just get on with armadas, if your Plat 1 can't, then you've lost.

[dark jungle]

so i've missed the fact that past arena you could win a title as an alliance, but i din't do one cause of IRL obligations...
so when is the next timeframe that you can win the title again ?

[grand beacon]

Bad mate didn't know how to crew strong ships, just the rest was bad

[lucid sonnet]

can someone

#FreeMirrorUhura ?

ty

[summer loom]

Sure, after you get your account to a point where she'd almost be useless, then she'll be freed.

[lapis mirage]

Add duo arenas, with red hostiles,

Then we all could do the terran loop

[summer dove]

This is my 4th in a row. To say I'm angry is an understatement. But I want to ask - for how long?
Incompetents!

[crude mango]

Are ops 71+ not getting the Arena Critical mitigation event?

[inner plover]

apparently as i have no idea what that is

[crude mango]

Last week it popped up an arena event for it, and the Heroic event for buying the refit was still running, so i bought the refit. I opsed up a few days ago and now no more event??

The packprice was definetely not worth the refit alone, but with the Arena event for it, i bought it

[inner plover]

it may have just been that run, but the question has been raised

[modern isle]

Besides the often non fair pairings.......how is it possible that you have managed to create the most glitchy/lagged game on this planet......and not been able to improve this after almost 2 years of Arena and the huge amount of money players have spend on this game? Its a limited battleground involving only 6 players....

[versed cipher]

doing arena but I was not earning armada directive points, what can I do when that happens?

It was stuck on 82 for some reason, would not gain no matter what I did

[broken bridge]

umm , no1 playing arena or what but this ops cap is abit high dont u think ? its not the 10levels im seen but still dont understand :I

[normal cliff]

Happened to me every second game, in this case restarting the game helped for me.
In addition I got disconnects after every game.
The rest of the bugs as usual, Arena is no fun at the moment.
But I heard we got a new ship....

[wary edge]

So I entered the Arena today. Extremely not enjoing every single bit of it, but still enduring it as rarely as I can.

Could someone please advive any strategies for this pairing? I truly wonder what ops60, 60 and 56 can do against an ops72 with T10 Vengeance. Just in case I get this pairing again.

[visual parrot]

But … look a those bulk faction claims

[warm nimbus]

Whats the point of coding an event that everyone likes just to run it once? C’cmon Scope

[shadow glacier]

game keeps getting stuck on loading screens and getting real glitchy in and loading into matches

[long jewel]

I'm experiencing a full application exit (I can see a flash of a pop-up box) on the PC version

[keen sparrow]

Frozen on loading screen, multiple crashes between matches, targeting and attacking opponent ships became laggy after 2130 UTC... so another Friday in the arena. This is how it's been for months, and another source of frustration. The majority of my losses come from game stability issues.

[small seal]

Man whats wrong with loading matches today ? Takes infinite amount of time

[spring forge]

I will first say, fix the matchmaking, make it fairer, blah, blah, I know you won't listen to that, but here is something maybe you can ACTUALLY do: In the Squad menu, DON'T show squads were the leader is not Ready. One of the most frustrating things is clicking on squad after squad and the leader never goes into ready. I have no idea why this is so common, but just don't show squads where the leader is not ready for others to join.

[spring forge]

And just to add a stretch goal...don't match with the same group over and over and over. And OVER.

[feral nova]

And mine 😆

[normal ibex]

Arenas lagging, haven't been matched with anyone remotely close to me, did I mention lag btw it's terrible

[pastel skiff]

Matching is the worst it's ever been. I've done it since the beginning and been in thousands of arenas. There's no way we should be matched against a team that has three times our power and is more than three ops level higher on average

[spice fjord]

Woo hoo I managed to get into TWO matches in an hour... One vs a 69 (I'm 67) that was too tough for me, that had the additional boost of;

The game locking up when sending me to the match.

The 69 I couldn't beat anyway also being able to fight all my ships with his main warship, from a distance, while my warship was sitting on his second ship and, taking a nap?

2nd match after weeding through multiple afks, facing a 69 and a 70. I logged off before the match started.

Give us a concede option or archive this pathetic event.

[young musk]

Good grief the lag in arena tonight is atrocious

[smoky lichen]

• cannot deploy ships after 2 are destroyed
• cannot select systems
• "Prep Phase 00s" banner stuck across the screen
• delay in combat animations

[barren cairn]

How are people still so bad at matching? You can’t stay in the queue for more than 5ish seconds or it starts searching outside your range. Live it learn it love it! 😂 I’m no expert by any means but at least I know the basics lol

[lucid sonnet]

it would be an improvement if the game had a 5-10 second timer that started when you queued saying: Searching ...
then after 5-10 seconds (whichever is chosen) the game then starts warning you: Extended Searching ...

so you know.
OR
they could do their job and have the queue search end after 10 seconds unless you tick a box asking for the 'Extended Search'

[covert mason]

Matching is a disgrace. Late 50s vs 71s. WTF?

Do you think my 2B ship is any match for 150B?

[crystal condor]

JOKE ONE BIG JOKE

[patent slate]

No attack option ..🤷‍♀️

And these frozen armada ghosts 👻...

[grand beacon]

It's extremely rare to have late lvl 50 match with 71 unless you try to chees the mechanics and team up with stronger players so they can have an advantage

[patent slate]

Here's one with the new 'cloaking' feature...

[visual parrot]

Well done clearing the entire arena system 👍

[glossy cobalt]

Ongoing issue with scopelys bs match making. Im guessing mm had hard time finding the right team so it just put you in. It happens too often sadly.

[oak wave]

I LOVE arenas. But, how is it that you run an alb and Slb one week and then the next nada🤷‍♂️

[grand beacon]

nothing you can do its a lost game its quite hard to start at ops 60 as you will be matched most times vs ider stronger opponent or just an easy one, especially with 2 guys that have the highest rank in a group it dont happen often that you get a pairing like that but it happens

[barren cairn]

Or he’s terrible at understanding how the matchmaking works

Makes me crazy seeing so many people complain about something that’s easily fixable lol

[light blaze]

so many of you complain about match ups in arenas. What you fail to realize is that there are so few people playing arenas now that match ups are not necessarily going to be that great. However there is a fix for this. Tell Scopely what you want instead of complaining about what you don’t. We want an ALB. We want an SLB. We want better rewards. We want higher arena levels (add in latinum and gold pressed latinum levels). Add more rewards in the Terran store. Possibly change the day arenas are played on and/or add a second day. Expand the time frame of arenas to 12 hour (or more) instead of 8. Also get your friends to participate in arenas. Have them get their friends to participate in arenas so on and so on. The more people that play arenas the better the match ups will be. My friends and I play arenas every Friday. We meet here

https://discord.gg/hJXg7Tdj2

Come join us. Have some fun. We offer crew and strategy advise along with just a dam good time.

[warm nimbus]

Don’t forget about Solo Arenas. We talked about this Scope.

[light blaze]

I can’t remember everything 🤪

[grand beacon]

The number of matches i play and the number of times im being matched against extremely overpowered opponents is not that bad. Many people get 1 bad game in 10 matches and run to Discord to cry about it it will never be balanced, as there are just too many factors that affect pvp you can have a high-powered opponent that comes in with pve crews and gets wiped by much weaker ship same with ranking players team up with higher-level/power player just to win my mate got a prem 1 and he dont even have pvp crews dont mater what they do it can't be fixed players will just finde a way around it to chees up games and get easy wins

[rose locust]

Honestly you shouldn't have to set up a team to compensate for the abysmal matchmaking. And i have won, but not due to my skill, due to the abysmal matchmaking. I don't mind losing, but I would like to actually play, and arena simply doesn't work reliably and consistently enough for that. Joining public teams is extremely frustrating because the ui doesn't update, and because people ignore the ready button. This is some of why I don't play arena often.

[light blaze]

And this is why we created this server. So you are joining a team with people
You know and if you are willing you can chat with them on voice while doing arenas.

https://discord.gg/MEg4mk89D

This way you know they are going to start it. And you are on a team that you want to be on. Not some random team where you have no idea about their skills.

[rose locust]

1. chat about what? and 2) there's no invite feature like other games have, so you can't LFG here

[oak wave]

You just boot people to allow person you want in @rose locust

And being able to talk to your teammates in real time is a huge help

[rose locust]

I honestly can't see how in this game. Preparing ahead of time yes, during there just isn't any benefit i can see, not unless i already know the people well.

Also the "booting because it isn't the one person I'm talking to on discord" is one more reason I don't want to play arena: i dislike that a lot.