💣-arena-feedback

[floral jasper]

Must be nice

[short kayak]

There is a point when strategy doesn’t help. Against most anyway

[floral jasper]

Im 60 and get stuck facing 67s. And I can only participate for an hour if I'm lucky after work.

[short kayak]

I can get higher. I’m literally stuck between 4 and 3. I haven’t moved up hardly at all. I was gold 2 at launch, then barely keeping head above water

3 and 2. I get 2 occasionally. But not long till 3 again🙈

[floral jasper]

Its just a very discimitory event for my work schedule and this many months in there is no hope for me to compete even against lower ops players

They just need to revamp the leveling. Should lock at each new lvl.

And it should be 24 hrs with a limited time in once you join.

[short kayak]

It’s just not enough players. You could Que for an hour trying to get even matches, or play quicker with whatever groups available

No win

[floral jasper]

And the store shouldn't be based on lvl but reputation. People who try shouldn't be excluded from spending

Well the lack of players should indicate they are doing it wrong

[short kayak]

If they are making any money off arenas, they honestly don’t have it as a priority imo

They can’t fix the eviscerator warp range, what chance does arena have? Seriously

[wary roost]

Tbh I haven’t interacted with arena for weeks. I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.

[floral jasper]

Well I said earlier.... I'm no whale but I spend hindreds of $ a year. Not another penny until they fix arenas to be fair for all who play whether first, second or third shift.

[short kayak]

Boggles the mind

https://tenor.com/view/so-long-katniss-everdeen-jennifer-lawrence-hunger-games-three-finger-salute-gif-4959991257576548702

[floral jasper]

I really just wanted the engineering thingy so I could build my g5 epic

I'll do it old school. And Scopely doesn't get any money from me until arena is fair for all, not just first shifters

It's that simple. Not hard for me. I'll spend on games that don't discriminate against my work shift.

[short kayak]

Play your game your way😎

I learned my lesson sitting at ops 39 for what seemed like a year waiting in early 2019. Never again

[wary roost]

Same. The only real benefit is the efficient engineering stuff

[floral jasper]

Right on. Otherwise the only incentive is join and not try at this point

[short kayak]

To be fair. The help in speeding up the new research from pt1 is quite useful actually. Day one ship

[floral jasper]

Honestly don't know what that means

Not sure how any research in stfc gets my shift at work changed

If the event literally coincides my shift I cant participate. And when I can for an hour or so snd lose every match what am I gaining other than hatred for a game I've played and paid for for 4 years

[worthy mist]

People earlier in the thread, making a stink they can't, which means its on them

[floral jasper]

The bottom line is it discriminates against second shift workers. And since it obviously does, we can't compete even against normally equal pvp opponents even when we get a rare opportunity. It's not fair. It's not fun. Thats all. If I get switched to first shift tomorrow I still wont participate in arena again because it's become an increasingly exclusive event. The few who have progressed are now way overpowering. Despite wanting more participants it has become exclusive. Not more inclusive.

[short kayak]

It’s an unfair game It’s a very very long term game. Only time or money

[safe frost]

And souls, don’t forget souls

[minor ice]

#💭-suggestions message

I'm just going to keep reposting this every week, I think.

There are so many aspects of arenas that need fixed. Scheduling is definitely near the top of the list.

[gilded brook]

Increase schedule, maybe make it 12 hours long. I can't participate regularly enough due to timing currently.

When I can participate, having to wait for people to click ready is infuriating. Have to keep jumping from group to group till one has players paying attention.

[minor ice]

The arena needs:

1. A rotating weekly schedule, including weekends. Rotate every 6 days (preferable) or 8 days (if you really must 🙄).
2. Ship tier-based matchmaking ("Kelvin Bracket" 40-42, "Newton Bracket" 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" 47-50, etc.). This would ensure that research, officers, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not massive numerical advantage.
3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).
4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

[cyan void]

instead of rotating why not run multiple times a week

maybe once on weekend and twice from monday -friday

[minor ice]

Presumably to maintain the accessibility rate of arena-related benefits that Scopely is aiming for.

Also, by limiting it to once a week, it encourages people to participate at the same time.

Matchmaking really will take forever if it's available too often, regardless of how strict the parameters are.

If we want better matchmaking parameters, we can't open the participation window too much.

[cyan void]

there are people who will play on weekdays only since weekends they chill go out etc and there are people who play only on weekends because of work stuff

[minor ice]

Even with the crappy parameters we have now, multiple days would likely increase wait times.

[cyan void]

tbh even if it ran everyday there will still be people that participate everytime 😅

[minor ice]

I really, really don't want to wait even longer for the awful matches it usually spits out at me.

[minor ice]

Precisely, which is why I suggested rotating through the week (including weekends).

[cyan void]

i think generally matching is fast for APAC its just how bad is the matchmaking 🤣

[minor ice]

Could be, my only experience is with NA.

[fringe yew]

public squads have a lot of players not clicking ready, what's with that?

[tall bobcat]

#fixArena

[cyan void]

they hit create and go afk maybe, or maybe they joined a team and waited some time then went afk

[woven basin]

hi~

[robust bobcat]

<@&509690795536941056> is there any plan to provide alternative sourcing for mirror uhura shards beyond the (for many of us) impossible gold II tier in arenas, when so many other officers have availability in at least 2 locations on and off it feels that I will never get her in my crew!

[zenith mirage]

Tip....just avoid it altogether....it sucks. No way it's fair and 1 day a week is ridiculous...especially when it's the day before lat rush and some loke to mine a lot for that

[cyan void]

how about if you're sick of matchmaking just stop playing arenas all together 🤣

[icy jackal]

The arena needs:

1. A rotating weekly schedule, including weekends. Rotate every 6 days (preferable) or 8 days (if you really must 🙄).
2. Ship tier-based matchmaking ("Kelvin Bracket" 40-42, "Newton Bracket" 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" 47-50, etc.). This would ensure that research, officers, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not massive numerical advantage.
3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).
4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

[woven basin]

😆

hi

[iron thorn]

Just delete the feature and give everyone the rewards. It’s never going to work as intended.

[cyan void]

there's no arenas today right👀

[willow mantle]

Not sure how this matching works...?

[cyan void]

u got smacked thats what happened

the better question is did you win 🤣

[willow mantle]

lol not this time!

[tall bobcat]

What the actual is this

Not one of our players is within 4 levels of these guys…. #fixArenaMatchmaking

[ionic dawn]

Absolute joke of a match up, I couldn’t even join that squad if I wanted to yet we are matched up

[cyan void]

ship kept being stuck in battle 🤔

something tells me that isnt supposed to happen

[ionic dawn]

This is a nightmare….

Can’t play with my alliance due to ops level, but can play against them…

[sage shuttle]

Arena matchmaking is only getting worse, but it's not Scopelys fault (at least not directly).
With an ever decreasing supply of players/teams willing to put themselves through Arena, matchmaking is only getting worse, not better.
I gave up on it months ago...the current version of Arena is dead, and needs to be put out of its misery.

[short kayak]

Said it before. I’ll say it again. Brackets. Different days. 70’s can have their own day 60’s. Etc. Simple

[cyan void]

that kinda doesnt work because of spenders imo

out of like 10 games i played today 4 was against some massive 318% 1.6b sanctus dude 1 against 2 60s. one of which i could kill if i stung and the rest were like 56 v 56 normla matching

[jagged moth]

Arena still laggy as ... no teammates, no ship list, ships jumping around or shoot across the whole system...

[cyan void]

at least you're winning 🤣

[glossy cobalt]

My first match 5 min into arena was vs 2x62s and all i had was a 57,60 and myself. It wont always work and you cant win them all.

[cyan void]

g4 and g6 has the worst matchmaking in arenas imo

[summer dove]

Is it possible to get Arena Team Chat?

[urban solstice]

arena can only be started @19:00 because of the mining event....very annoying combination

[urban solstice]

is the arena playable or lagging?...

[cyan void]

it was really laggy today for apac so might carry over

[urban solstice]

nothing changed again up against ops 70 players.... get real this is no match @ll

exclude the ship gs-31 in arena this makes it way to easy for ops 70 players

1 shot all the hostiles are gone

really pathetic

how will this ever be beaten?

[cyan void]

u send a realta and it'll die, duhhhh 🤣

[urban solstice]

if we are making everything unfair then enable cloak also

[gloomy rover]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-fleet-command-realta-intrepid-riker-eggy-gif-20726096

[cyan void]

not happening since you'll just cloak the middle armadas and removes all stategy from the game 🤣

but whats strategy with smt like 100b power

[robust bobcat]

The usual scopley quality matchmaking, the 53 just bullied everybody, a ‘give up’ function would save me ages of watching an arena of rubbish, can. It get to Gold 2 so will never get mirror uhura as sourcing will never be made anywhere else 😡 shame on you scopley <@&509690795536941056>

Squads are either full or 1/3 with an AFK player refresh offers the same players over and over again, arenas are DOA

Just make Mirror uhuru available elsewhere and I can ignore this still birth of a function

[urban solstice]

wow just experienced that i could not join an armada and on top of it now there only two joined but it has been started this arena is incredible buggy

[mossy granite]

Thx scopely, that made my day. A 300mil ship from a ops 50 player. Another frustrating monday evening. As usual. Thx again scopely.

[rocky crypt]

Fix the stupid chat. Going in and out of arena's breaks the private chats with other players.

[short basin]

As long as you allow such ridiculous matchups, arenas will never succeed. Population grows smaller and smaller each week and you simply do not care. Pathetic developers

[wraith beacon]

WTF!

More Dopley Trash

[wraith beacon]

Another lose. Thank you Dopely

What a joke

I’m think I’m 100% done with Arenas and I used to love them.

[twilit basin]

Hell of a matchup...

[hazy basin]

We're back to the days of people half way across the map instalanding and the graphics not even trying to update, not sure who thought it would be smart to go backwards on that

[white sorrel]

I've been trying for the last 30 minutes to get out with the public squad, because nobody in my alliance is doing this and there's nobody even available in public. Truly, a dead mechanic.

[sage ingot]

How is this a fair match up?

[limber cloak]

awful feature now. How is it possible to launch a feature everyone loved, that engaged teams in strategy and teamwork, and then relaunch it and make it so utterly annoying and unbalanced that players that love PvP stop engaging... and then just leave it like that?

[spice fjord]

Still blows. Still REQUIRES a quit option. Waiting 20 minutes for a semi decent OR actually active squad just to roll headfirst into a super whale 60 that I can't play against is a full wasted 30 minutes I don't HAVE.

[sturdy seal]

Real nice match making scopely :

[sturdy seal]

what happened to the teams being within 4 ops levels of the host's bracket????

[lilac lichen]

@muted badger are there ever going to be arena adjustments or not?

I think we deserve to know.

I just got to gold 1. Can’t afford the favor I want unless I pay 48k rare, ( ps- you can’t see the favor cost until you are gold 1, so no way of knowing) 83 days of single pulls or 28 days of triple pulls to get that rare. That’s like 33 arena wins. And that means pulling nothing else that takes rare. It’s not very balanced and kind of a joke.

[sage ingot]

That’s what I’m saying

[gloomy rover]

That only applies to your team, max on yours could be ops 50 theirs could be ops 62

[sage ingot]

I really like the arena feature. It’s fun! It would be more fun when it’s a fair match up.

I’ve been able to learn a lot with arenas, test my crews, research, ships, etc.

[sage ingot]

I’m a 53, I thought max match up could be 57 and that’s with a starter. But they put some really powerful players on their team and had a 60 and 62. Not even fair since I don’t get the same opportunity to have that sort of power in my match up options

[gloomy rover]

Your 53 so highest In your team can only be ops 57 that would mean enemy team could have ops 53-65, yours at 57 + 4 would mean their highest low player could be 61… this is often the trend with real bad match ups like this

Generally it would be better if they did arenas in brackets g3 g4 g5 g6 etc

No g5 vs g6 etc

[sage ingot]

Possibly. But then think of a low g4 to an ops 50 with a g4 epic, same trend with g5 g6. Still doesn’t seem balanced somehow

[gloomy rover]

It’s not, its always 1 sided, or if your lucky to get even match ups it is still 1 sided due to p2w tech

[worthy dirge]

Match making is bad. These people didn't deserve 0 points, it was just an unfair matchup against an alliance squad. (And no, these 3 people weren't AFK the whole time)

[fierce field]

I'm going to say this every week. We should not have matchups where one player on the other team has more power than our entire power combined.

[wide pelican]

fix matchmaking plz down 5k rating today because kept matching teams 8-10 ops levels higher

[random furnace]

Not that it matters I'm sure. But having a 63 start an Arena... and we hit a 70 with 110 to 140B ships....... isn't fun

[snow leaf]

Her'e's a thought. How about giving everyone explicit instructions on how to enter the arena. I spend more time sitting there because someone doesn't know they need to hit the ready button. It is such a huge time sink. Put the directions right on the screen. There is room. Also, please improve your matching algorithm. I am also getting tired because I am up against someone who is the same level as me, but bought all the prime. We are not playing at the same level. New INFO - I just lost to a ops level 40 player with an 86 Million NSEA while I am ops 46 and my 79 Million NSEA is level locked until 50. Not even remote an equitable fight.

[red elm]

Public arena so boring now...

1. The Platinum I players just wait to group with other Platinum I
2. Or, they just wait to group with two other players 4 levels below to game the matchmaking.
3. Everyone else is basically awful
4. If you get a decent matchup, highest spender crushes you

Rinse, repeat.

[worthy dirge]

Put arenas in the archives. No one like these except big spenders

[digital geyser]

Platinum players just spend all night just playing with other platinums creating complete imbalance because the matchmaking algorithm is trash and will pick anyone regardless of ranking to go against them.

Also players who start a group as a leader and never press ready should get some sort of timer to auto ready. Stop wasting peoples time.

[dense olive]

Lag is brutal tonight

Clients screwing up constantly. Ships warping everywhere or just ignoring commands

Most frustrated I’ve been in arena for months.

[rose locust]

You really need to work on the matchmaking. I can see teams that would fit well together, that aren't paired. Tonight got paired a team with 2 players over 2x my strength. Also tonight got paired against a team who's strongest player was half my strength (all but one ship refused to show up at all). There's so many teams they don't all fit on the display, and yet you aren't matching them.

Also would be nice if I could actually see the opponent info, just because. Why is it not showing?

It's almost like your devs set it to be purposely unequal as possible, like they have values reversed or something.

I don't care about rank, don't really care if I lose, but I would like people to be able to play. It's no fun when I'm against an overpowered opponent, and no fun when I am that opponent.

[wintry sparrow]

What the $copely?

[trim crow]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-ragequit-punchcomputer-agar-agario-gif-23509069

@main blade @muted badger This is what makes me want to rage quit...A whole G5 team vs G6 team...how does this make any sense. 56 and 67 is 11 lvls of OPS diff..

[toxic fiber]

This is not necessarily a bad matchup. That 64 has access to the same powerful ships you do…which are the G5 epics.

[wintry sparrow]

Oh, so we're ignoring the G6 uncommon?

[trim crow]

They only get good after T8 or T9...they can easily be taken down with T10-T12 G5 epics. Their firing patterns are very bad

[wintry sparrow]

Are you offering to gift me a T10-12 G5 epic? If so, that's awfully sweet of you.

[cyan void]

it's much easier to get 1 than you think

[wintry sparrow]

I'm a new-ish L60 and am making decent progress for a light spender. It's just funny to assume I'd have one of those while assuming the L64 didn't have a fancy G6 uncommon. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[cyan void]

tbh most 64s I know only have smt like a t7 uncommon😅

but that's APAC ig. US EU is much worse

[toxic fiber]

Yes, we are.

[toxic fiber]

Results will vary but you don’t need anything that big. A decent Sanctus or Quv will do.

[wintry sparrow]

I've killed plenty of G6 with my G5 when I have a PvP crew and they don't...

[toxic fiber]

Crew. Does. Not. Matter.

[cyan void]

i havnt seen khan in pvp since forever 😅

[safe frost]

There are a few brutal 63s around these parts, but those are pretty rare

I can sometimes kill the 63 cubes, but a 4b negh var took out half of my hull yesterday

[grizzled arrow]

Akira is made of wet paper, if it wasn't for warp range probably no one would build it
unless they tier it really high

[cyan void]

akira might be the worst out of the 3 😅

[safe frost]

don't underestimate the garbage can called weyoun minerva

[warped lion]

the 63s are just not intended for PvP! they are the only choice to reach higher levels in G6-space and they are one way to tier up the Borg Cube as early as possible.

[cyan void]

I'm a firm believer st explorer sucks😅

[short kayak]

It’s not Weyon as much as it is the ship

[grizzled arrow]

EST slaps on my Ent-D

[cyan void]

maybe it's just the st I go against then

so pve wise which is the best g6 ship😂

[short kayak]

No. Weyon just needs to be in the right hands. That’s all

He has access now to shield bypass. Whole new era

[cyan void]

so does every ship tho

[lilac lichen]

@muted badger anything in the works to address any issues in arenas - > sourcing, match making, store tied to ranking or anything else? Or is this the first part of the game I drop in 5 years ( excluding assaults and ia loops ) . Honestly weeks without any news. You capped my speed but those 60s seem to move pretty dang fast in there. What is the engagement %?

[alpine orbit]

I dropped Arenas weeks ago mate, it's only worthwhile when you're in sweet spots (63 ops w/t9 g6 uc/upgraded cube, 66 ops w/t9 g6 rare/upgraded cube, 70 ops with maxed g6 epic & cube). If you're not in those zones, you get absolutely railed by the matchmaking algorithm. They've moved on, they don't care anymore unfortunately

Leaving it in its current state is an incentive to spend more on upgrading ops/ships, they're happy with that state of play

[cyan void]

i still play. 56 is a good spot i think for arenas

i win about 90% of my matches

[alpine orbit]

yeah it is, you've just unlocked g5 rare and are less likely to be matched with g5 epics. The sweet spots are ops levels that end in 0, 3 and 6

[cyan void]

ive only lost to whales(how in the world do you even get 300% iso at ops 56 :/), or lvl 60s with really good epics

[gloomy rover]

PvP tech

[cyan void]

nope

base iso 300%

[uneven wing]

glavin, ops locked buildings, syndicate 52/55, and a few primes

some of which are technically f2p now

[cyan void]

well seeing how his sanc is t12 1.6b power id say a lot of primes 🤣

[uneven wing]

that sounds not unreasonable for a max sanctus

just... who does that at 56 lol

(someone trying to win arena, obviously)

[thorn thicket]

1.6 is it? A 56 in my alliance has a 1.9b sanctus.

[cyan void]

primessssss

[thorn thicket]

Ive beat the 1 to 1.4b ones with my uc's. Plus I haven't done arenas in 2x weeks. Seems like everything is still the same which is good for me.

[cyan void]

now the question is whats their iso

i killed 1.4b sanctus pretty easily

the 1.6 is killable its just his iso is so much higher than me theres not much i can do 😂

[thorn thicket]

I don't even know my iso

[willow mantle]

Not sure how we got matched with this team! NFI

[plain aurora]

What the ....?!

that shoulnt possible...

[fallen gust]

Probably because no ones playing 😅

[plain aurora]

ah ok then the better option automatik abort for matchmaker if there are no group in range...

[short kayak]

Ranks

Last matchup mechanic when ops ranges can’t be found

[pseudo girder]

Because ranks matter lol

[plain aurora]

ranks dosnt work... if you take ranks you match up a g4 against ops 70 in worst case... thats the worst what you can do.

ok that explain some rediculous matches

[cyan void]

ranks does matter to a certain extent. but there are like 40% of the cases where rank isn't even a factor

[short canopy]

What was it? "the most competitive mode in the game" xD mkay.

[marsh drift]

Great start, no more ships below, FIX THIS!!!!!!!

[golden mortar]

yeah I hate this one to bro

[marsh drift]

What really grinds my gears is that it stays the same every single week, do you have like 1 programmer locked up in the basement or something? After all the complaints for literally months and being so dedicated in keeping this feature run, you would think you prioritise this more to make sure the people can enjoy smooth gameplay, if you pull this with Pokémon GO as well i can tell you those players will lose their mind even more than our player base

[rocky crypt]

Lag strikes again. Timer was at zero way before the enemy ship arrived and continued till after my ship was dead.

[soft ferry]

Got one here too. Pretty evenly matched

[glass urchin]

please please please just make an alternative way to earn the terran currency.
Im so tired of these matches that are purely decided on the levels in matchmaking. makes the whole exercise pointless when there is no skill based pvp and each match is decided the moment oppenents are revealed.

[rocky crypt]

Should we even bother.

[winged sand]

Doing my first arena, are you kidding me with this lag..............!!!!!!

[worthy dirge]

Scopely should just get rid of arenas.

They won't be any better today than they are normally...

[short canopy]

"most competitive mode in the game". stop whining you guys.

[glass urchin]

even despite the fact its completely broken with lag and barely functions. It just doesnt have a place in the way the game is designed. There is no skill in pvp in stfc, assuming all pvp crews its just about who is bigger and then eventually who has spent more,

[snow smelt]

Lag is insane this would never end this way

[wide leaf]

Stupid lag… no way to get thru, best after reboot, no ships to select

[snow smelt]

It has got very worse in the past 30 mins

[median root]

first 5 games were good, then 1 bad one and now it is unplayable

[silver halo]

Todays experience was as usual. Stupid matchmaking. Ships not where they seem to be. Had to restart game since i could not send ships to the battle system for some reason. And a fair amount of lag..

[glass urchin]

[fair matrix]

Scopely Stopp New content first Do your Job and fix lagging and Bugs! Arena is unplayable ATM laggs without ending

[snow smelt]

Match making is always gonna be bad, some you win some you lose. Game has just sh.8t it's pants I think

[lost badger]

these fights started when the timer of the armada, was at 1:12, in the meant time they brought 2 new ships in, that i couldnt target as these fight were still going on

[rocky crypt]

Lag is horrible.

[opaque bough]

Laggggg very very awfull. Score 49- 56 nobody can do nothing

[snow smelt]

https://discord.com/channels/509679626763632640/1369773683245318324

[dusk birch]

Maybe cancel/pause the arena until the insane lags are fixed???

[outer wadi]

Are Scopely still testing the Arena or are they never going to make it a all day event for those of us who are either working or sleeping during the current time frame

[rocky crypt]

Same old story of ship getting stuck in warp/death

[sweet garnet]

laaaaaaaaaag

[strong mortar]

could have been worse i suppose 💪🏻

[snow raven]

Yes. Arena not realy playable today 🙈

[alpine orbit]

Decided to try arena for the first time in weeks, took over 5 mins to find a match and then got matched with a 70 ops with a ship twice my power. Arena can go do itself with a 50 inch marital aid, dead content.

[short basin]

Better be compensating for the severe lag issues. Arenas has been unplayable

[fierce field]

Seriously Scopely. You need to fix matching.

Awesome. One player that's bigger than our entire team. Good match.

[junior yoke]

In EU it’s absolutely unplayable, in a single match I got: ship stuck in warp, unable to target, extreme rubber banding, armada stuck at 0 and a random crash. For a time sensitive activity like arenas, all these issue really ruin any fun (yes, I was still having a bit of fun in arenas until this week 😅)

[vivid sedge]

So much lag. Worst it'd been for weeks and that's saying something. Unplayable.

[shy linden]

another perfect match, well done scopely

[remote scarab]

So restart them in 2028?

[shy linden]

well done scopely, your matchmaker clearly understands how to pair up teams

[earnest bison]

Scopely needs to match by power, not Operations. Because every ops level has a low power end and a high power end that are so hugely different that combat isn't even close.

[patent orbit]

Worst lag in months, had my ships stuck in warp several times and had to restart each time, and player ships would go right through my ship when attacking, then my ship would turn and pursue them.

[pastel skiff]

Arena lag ridiculously bad tonight. Just failed to start an armada 6 times in a row due to lag. Ships just stood there trying to start armadas until they died. Just never started

[lilac lichen]

I had a really good group today. Made a huge difference. No lag. All was good. But man, @muted badger that g6 innovative engineering is expensive. 48k rare is kind crazy. Assuming you could, and bought literally nothing else….. 28 days of triple pulls, 42 days of double pulls, and 83 days of single pulls - wack….. That is also assuming you have the time to play that much. I wish I had seen the price previous to reaching gold 1 and I would have put mirror/officers/artifact pulls on hold. Oh, and I found participation numbers posted online. Pretty ( very ) low considering the entire player base.

[runic isle]

Can we do something to get all the bad players back into the arenas or all the good players out? Alternatively, can we add arena currency to the event stores (including rep since it's a catch up mechanic and I'm really far behind).

[thorn thicket]

Took 2 weeks off, pushed to ops 56 from 53 yesterday and came back to arenas today. Found some good teammates and have gone 17-0. Only had a ship get stuck once Had some really close matches vs some 60's with max epics and one of my teams didn't have an epic for a couple of those. Grateful for the teams I did find. Overall still fun experience.

[fierce niche]

There NEEDS to be a way to ping the person forming a public squad. Countless groups tonight that I joined tonight and the lead person never readies up. There also needs to be a time out. If you sit in a full group and take no activity, you should be given a warning, booted from the queue and then put on a timeout from starting a new one.

[pliant forge]

I was about to post this, lol. They need to lower the team ops average to +-2.

[wraith beacon]

Thank you Scopely

[rose locust]

Require the person who starts a squad is ready, like they don't get to pick. You start, you're ready.

[wraith beacon]

4-17 today. Thank you Dopely

[willow mantle]

<@&509691205798592532> is anyone looking at / collating our feedback? Any comments to the woeful matchmaking would be welcome... eg #💣-arena-feedback message

[haughty horizon]

I’d honestly be so ashamed to be attached to such an awful product. 🙄

[faint wharf]

Still the same nonsense, you make it a game of chance instead of a game of skill.
If I were you I'd change the 4 up to only 2 up, keep 4 down. I also would change the arena to something bigger or put speed traps. In the spirit of Capt. Kirk he takes death and makes it a chance to live.

[short basin]

No word on compensation?? It was literally unplayable yesterday

[plain aurora]

<@&509690795536941056> can we talk abaut compenation for that unplayable game yesterday... its a bad joke that the most eu player cant play arena. think for that performance yesterday the community deservs a compensation.

[green skiff]

<@&509690795536941056> @muted badger the arena matchmaking should be based on overall power, not ops level. The numbers are too wide, it's completely unfair! Yesterday was a wash out, no fun at all!

[pure wing]

Yesterday's arenas were worse than usual, matchmaking was laughable but the lag was beyond a joke.

[blissful knot]

I stopped playing arenas - matchmaking is awful, the lag and rewards for win or loss are a joke - it shouldn’t work that you drop levels - just don’t increase if you lose

[obtuse tangle]

I quit arenas a few weeks ago. Same reasons as above. There is no reason whatsoever a squad without a L70 should be paired up against one with a L70. There is no amount of skill, buffs, boosts, tricks, magic, hope or cheat that allows an 18B ship to beat a 135B ship.

[lucid sonnet]

took a lot of you to realise the arena system is rubbish, should never have participated outside of the arc. then scopely would of done something to fix it properly instead of all the micro tweaks to make you spend money before actually the current version which was a player suggestion in the very first week. bet you didnt know that.

now how about you go back and look at some of the other suggestions that were given out to fix arenas ...

[cyan void]

tbh it's mostly the same people complaining about arenas and week after week they still play arenas😅 😂

[wicked tulip]

It’s also a similar handful defending them each week. I gave up complaining about them, scopely will not put more resources towards them at this stage and they will mainly be played by the small group that already is enjoying them :). They missed out on a chance to make a pvp mode that enticed players that don’t pvp often. It’s too bad, some problems with arenas would resolve with a larger player base being engaged in it.

Stopped engaging about a month ago, the game mode isn’t worth the time sink for me so I moved on. If they figure out the performance and rank issues someday, I will gladly give it another go 🙂

[plucky juniper]

Чё бля. За русский совсем забыли? Сигала вам не хватает.

[cyan void]

reset 3 times and still no ships

lost me this game

[tall bobcat]

Wth is this

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-i’m-sorry-im-so-sorry-im-sorry-my-bad-gif-17321228005223634516

[tall bobcat]

Seems like fair matching making to me 🤔🙄💳💨💨

[brisk dragon]

has a sanctus and sompek 🤣 ,G4 players vs G5 players is pretty wild

[cyan void]

in my defense, yall arent the first group of 40s i faced today 😂 . definitely a lot of ppl not playing arenas this week

[brisk dragon]

u should've used the g4 ships 🥺

[cyan void]

was it you that maxed fort and everything 😅

i used my heghta at first but when your teammate brought all the buffs known to mankind i gave up and just did brute force 😂

[short kayak]

Doesn’t someone have the numbers? Participation from last 4 arenas 🤷🏻‍♂️

[cyan void]

no ones gonna give it cuz they cant admit arenas dyinnnn 😛

[short kayak]

Rev or DJ knows. But haven’t heard numbers in awhile

[brisk dragon]

😭

[cyan void]

those ppl are really tiny

[valid junco]

Yeah those 57s look tiny

[cyan void]

yea thats the base power at 53 so they are extremely tiny

could kill with buffs and debuffs on them i think

[brisk dragon]

they all have G5 rares, with 1 guy using g5 unc and cube

[cyan void]

welcome to arenas🤣

my worst match today was 56 59 60 against 42 44 43

[fair creek]

hows it going? 😄

[cyan void]

arenas was great. not great for the dozen lvl 40s i matched against but still great😅

[fair creek]

give me some 40s as well please... all i get are 64+ as an ops 59 these days 😅

i mean sometimes i kill an ent d, but its not worth the effort

farming thousands of exiles or reputation is more fun 🤪

[cyan void]

i kill most of the epics i see in arena 😅

the rare few i cant kill are those with 300% iso 800 iso def or smt like that. huge stats

[urban solstice]

why is the arena only created for ops 70 plus players?

wow three times ops 70 players to defeat great matching scoply!

when will that match making improve?...

guess never it seems because this going on for months now

they use the borg cutting beam and my 5 million akira is destroyed

really what's the purpose 2 keep playing arena this way everything is disabled like cloak etc but the stuff ops 70 players can use stay active...

have been selected now with 6 ops 70 players....

that match making is garbage

[toxic pine]

Seems fair.....After all a 62 and 58 can kill a 66 ship....... Scopley fix this abomination of a feature before it truly becomes a dead feature like those horrid Assaults

[toxic pine]

oh wow you had that one bad as well but as per Scamely its fair

[urban solstice]

wow that matching still sucks now got 8 ops 70 after each other

there was an time when you guys where monitoring the arena progress if it was playable etc.....

that was an 1 time thing?..... wow

[cyan bear]

I can't even find a public squad, so even if I wanted to do them I can't.. and within my alliance I'm really limited as to whom I can do them with as well and they aren't online rn lol.

[dawn pelican]

Arena's arent a good experience. I've held back from playing them for months tried again tonight.. fighting against 150B cubes was a complete waste of time. Until it's changed so you pick your ship and everyone fights using those ships its dead content for me.

[rocky crypt]

Why is every ship locked to 275 impulse speed but a Cube can seemingly go to light speed within the arena.

[halcyon imp]

cube movement is bugged.
most of the time visually they don't move at all.

[mossy granite]

Its monday again, time for some frustrating arena matches. Btw, what is the aim of your matchmaking algorithm? Obviously it is not to create fair matches ...

Where is the option to skip such matches? Everyone can predict the outcome, no need to spend 10 min on it. Honestly!

Two times in a row. Thx scopely, enough is enough.

[river temple]

Full bug donc même quand on doit gagner on perd, matchmacking complètement déséquilibré donc tout est à revoir

[cyan bear]

Friend in my alliance said something tonight that really struck a chord. "The range between Ops 70 beginner and Ops 70 max is as large as Ops 1-69". Something to think about in the context of Arenas <@&509690795536941056>
Would you match an ops 1 against an ops 69??

[weary storm]

Scopely has acknowledged in Q&A that PVP needs reblancing but also said it won't happen this year so just ignore Arena's like many on my server. There is never a balanced match, just lopsided battles one way or the other.

[round wasp]

Put this in suggestions, probably better off here. Played these guys 4 times tonight. Nice people. Would prefer some variety.

[cyan bear]

I think I've come up against the same team 5 times so far. Variety sorely needed.

[spring pumice]

@tribal fern and you were a great team. 🥰

[round wasp]

right back at you

[tribal fern]

Yeah, thanks guys; was a great run, and even when we lost we did it to the wire 🙂

[brave flare]

The fact that the opposing group is repeating itself more and more often is a very good development! This means that fewer and fewer people are playing this BS and scopely is no longer earning anything from it. So it's fair in the end! There should be no money for lousy content.

[hidden zephyr]

Faced same team twice and got ass kicked twice but a souped up NC despite them having no Chaos Tech for PVP and only assimilate to boost their meta, having Apex Shred and Echo Papa 607 did absolutely nothing for my Vor'cha against it. Ah well. Matchmaking seemed reasonable ops wise tonight but getting matched against same opponents absolutely sucks. Never goes in my favour but it always goes against me.

If there wasn't a penalty for losing (400 arena emblems is no change at all for losing Arena rep) that might soften the blow but barely any variety in teams suggests Scopely have a lame duck on their hands.

They should publish player numbers to see how many engaging with no fluff and actually address the problems/suggestions the player base and community have put forth. High hopes indeed.

[cyan bear]

There should be a feature that you can't be matched against the same team you have just been up against last.

[crystal mountain]

Seal clubbing and curb stomping from stupid match making ruining a good event - do better scopely…..

[crystal mountain]

When ops 70s go up against ops 60-68s…. 🤦🏼‍♂️

And getting locked out while the match is forming is always fun

[astral skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-super-gif-24576363

Every Monday, this feature is pretty much dead.

[worthy dirge]

So now we're just doing 3 against 1s?

[lilac lichen]

@muted badger my ship is stuck in warp, I can’t join. I have a ticket in and I expect arena emblems. Least you can do is not give me a week of zero pulls for this busted game.

[lilac lichen]

( update, ship unstuck )

[chilly trout]

The matchmaking is TERRIBLE.

I get the mode is so universally hated that you cant fill fair matches, so why not do what EVERY OTHER MULTI-PLAYER GAME DOES AND USE BOTS?!

Seriously. Just use bots. Give em dumb random names and we'll never know its not another player. Its better than getting an unwinable match, going afk, and the other team having to grind hostiles and armadas for 5-10 minutes.

[chilly trout]

Because nobody is playing anymore. They NEED to introduce bots or something or the mode will be a ghost town

[inland flame]

My ships have gotten more powerful and I got some decent tech equipped so I thought I’d try Arena again. Nobody on my server even wants to try so I go public. Still no chance. Arena is a total waste of time unless you spend a fortune

[rose locust]

Matchmaking is just bad, the method does not work, regardless of the range.

Plus players have figured out how to force bad matchmaking, like having 2 extremely weak 42s and a average to strong 46, which then will get matched against 2 average ops 40s and a weak 41.

[sage shuttle]

Arenas is NOT dying, it is already dead to 95% of players (best guess, as l can't be asked to hunt around for actual figures).
Scopely, please kill it officially now, and think long and hard about what you need to do to actually make Arenas mk II a success...There are a lot of clues if you just read through the feedback here 😀

[astral skiff]

Between the lag, impulse cap, dwindling participation, inability to execute consistent matchmaking, and your refusal to shuffle the day the 8 hour event is run on I think it's time to start thinking of another way to source some of the extremely important items that are sourced through the Terran Faction Store. Arenas are dead, no one likes them ( we want too but you clearly cannot execute) and very few actually participate in them. Premium Mirror Dust needs a different primary source ASAP.

[rose locust]

I can't even look at 2 squads without the game locking up.

[white sorrel]

The person who developed this is just the worst.

[fickle orbit]

I feel defeated nearly every match. I'm a fairly strong level 50 but seem to go up against level 50's who have over 600M powered ships and fully juiced up pvp tech. There's no way for F2P players will ever succeed or advance their Terran faction.

It would be amazing if there were other ways or events to get Terran faction points aside from arenas.

[stray quarry]

Something is weird with match making tonight, keep getting the same teams over and over

[modern plume]

Can we at least get a forfeit feature so I don't have to waste my time stuck in a match I have less than zero chance of winning?

[astral skiff]

No one is playing this broken feature anymore.

[shy ruin]

Come on scopley, you can’t do better than this?

Just a giant waste of time

[white sorrel]

Every single thing about this is terrible. You have to be a mega spender or you have no chance. I have an immense amount of dislike for the people who created this and ultimately ruined it.

Took about 6 months, but I figured out this is a complete and total waste of time.

[rose locust]

The matching is a rolling window, that's why it can get farther off. So you could see 44,40,40 matched against 48,52,52, because 44 and 48 are within 4 of each other. I honestly think it does not really compare power levels, or at least not at first.

[fading flume]

Kinda tough to compete when I have no ships.

[rose locust]

I want to see the strength and ops level of both players if two are joined, and I want to be able to join from the same place I can see this information.

[fierce niche]

Fix. The. Lag. As seen here, battles have occurred, hostiles destroyed, armadas set and counted down. No points showing

[snow narwhal]

add in ships getting stuck in warp heading to the arena, chasing people around not able to attack them...

[turbid osprey]

Is there a 52-54 ops on the US server that's active to start a group?

And on issues , I was unable to use Sting feature during multiple arenas

[cyan void]

was the timer negative?

[turbid osprey]

No the activate button never showed

[cyan void]

thats probably worse than my bug 😂

[edgy kite]

Something's wrong with the leaderboard

[mossy granite]

Guess so few are participating that you start getting the same opponents over and over again

[silver mauve]

Not really funny and a good example that the match making doesn't work really well. The 68 had a 3% chance to kill one of the 6 lev 70 g6 ships.
▪︎ So where the
"no fun cancel button" ?
▪︎ Or where is the real chance in match making?
▪︎ Why so many bugs only in Arena? E.g. warp stucked ships, no ships, no targeting and so on.

Well, I think I'm not the only one who feels ripped off by the concept.

The concept itself to fight across servers are good.
Only the implementation shines with errors and wrongly thought-out approaches.

We need new ideas and approaches to improve things.

• Increase level restrictions
• Balance ships, low vs. high (means across all classes)

But what does the player know? He's annoying, he complains, he's a thorn in the side if he doesn't pay. 🐸

[safe frost]

I had it way too often that I used the sting and it didn’t appear on the ship but I was on cooldown after😄

[cyan void]

yea its so da.mn annoying 😂

[plain aurora]

Ok Arena yesterday... matches only hardcore pvp player... there arnt normal player in...
best 59/60/61 group vs 60-64-68... 13B Velox... with g5 ship no chance
lag are redicules
ship location dont work
Explorer striketeam is dead because icheb and tuvok...

[near violet]

Matchmaking once again utterly broken. The way I see it, it's perfectly straightforward: make it within an ops range and power range, say +/- 50m or so. That way you don't get matched up with sweats with ridiculously OP ships.

[clever monolith]

how is this even possible lvl 52 53 52 v lvl 54 56 60

[junior yoke]

There are not enough players playing this now, that’s the reason the matchmaking is getting worse and worse

[clever monolith]

but there no other way to to get premium mirror dust

[cyan void]

i got 56 59 60 vs 42 44 45 so thats not the worst

[clever monolith]

this is why players are not doing arenas not worth the effort wait to long to collect 400 credits for defeat

[cyan void]

yea it takes 6 minutes on average for a match to end. if enemy is fast itll be around 5 minutes

its basically 1 matchmaking time 😂

[clever monolith]

if there was another way to source premium mirror dust arenas would die

[short kayak]

I didn’t play this time. I give up on it for now. Uhura isn’t that big of a deal to me. Everyone else has sourcing somewhere else. And the premium dust will just have to wait 🤷🏻‍♂️

Besides. It’s so boring. Repetitive. Gets old quick

[cyan void]

i got 45k emblems saved up. gonna let arenas sit for a bit until i start running low 😂

[patent orbit]

Week over week the lag and ship location is getting worse and worse. Had many times where my ships would not move at all, or their ships would zip across the system and hit me. I know they aren't cheating, so it 100% has to do with your tracking of ship location.

[tawdry fable]

Add an slb and sms to the event make it worth it.

[cyan void]

you're gonna get 5 parsteel

[strong dagger]

I think more people would do arenas if you didn't lose ranking points when losing. A small group of people who spend tens of thousands on PvP dominate everyone else, deterring them from caring about it.

[hexed current]

Due to time team matching took to complete the other members of my arena team did not even send a ship to arena, 1v3 and I lost obviously, losing Arena Points spoils it, especially when it’s the games fault, and yes in case you were wondering I was matched against a much stronger team, not seen an even match up yet

[gloomy rover]

you got to watch out for free loaders, some players join just for the loss only points/rewards

[remote scarab]

Are we ever gonna get it on a new day? Its barely getting any participation on monday anymore

[remote scarab]

I had that happen with four times this week. Joined a public team, and 2 others on my team didnt even play just took the 400 pts

Should get no points unless you send ships into the arena

[cyan void]

its barely getting participation in general 😅

[remote scarab]

True lolol

[trim pasture]

I thought of sending ship into arena just to score a defeat ....

But this means that i have to be without my ship or a ship for 6-8 minutes.

No thanks.

😳😳

[pastel flicker]

The problem is Scopeley using an automatic system to pair the players outside of their ops level. Ex if you have ops 42, 47, 38 it will pair it with 49, 42, 38 giving one side the advantage

[rugged willow]

Unfortunately the whole system is flawed,. the infrastructure must be outdated or poor quality. You would think with the amount of scripts , moving parts and the gamble software going there would be a bigger and more sophisticated engine behind it. The lag is dreadful. so going in to combat is not fun so yeah I dont play them. a whole other part of the game that is not playable for me.

[turbid osprey]

Needs to run longer. Still some players missing out due to RL conflict with limited run time.

[cyan void]

they dont need it to run longer, any longer and it clashes with the other time zones and im pretty sure if that happens we'll get paired apac vs eu and stuff like that, what they need to do is run on 3-4 days a week

well but im guessing 2 is the limit given the participation numbers

[rustic ermine]

What they really need to do is put it in the archive building and let us auto claim the rewards. It’s boring as anything, it’s just a whale off. Whoever has the bigger whale wins. Boring. 🥱

[sullen crane]

That's the only thing I was doing Arenas for, but I can't be bothered anymore. It's not worth the hassle, and they have it on the worst day - mining Monday. A server just merged with ours, so mining spots are a premium now. I'm not giving mine up for frustration and dust.

[lilac lichen]

Down to just over 6k players. When will you admit you have something wrong, and I like the idea of arenas and participate every week. Give us alternate sourcing for the faction store. It’s time.

[modern aspen]

Where do you get that idea from? Seems much much more than that looking at the statistics site

[cyan void]

which site?

[gloomy rover]

https://stfc.wtf/

[bold nacelle]

That site doesn't say how many are duplicate accounts

[cyan void]

doesn't that site just tell you how many people there is that have or havnt played arenas. doesn't tell you the active players for arenas

[flat solstice]

or if it didn’t recall ALL ships on a lat rush mining day .. it’s why i’ve only tried it once

[lilac lichen]

The game stats. Am I reading it wrong?

[modern aspen]

stfc says soemqher between 700-1500 new accounts a day

Maybe I’m reading it wrong

[lilac lichen]

It talking arena participants

[cyan void]

we're talking arena participants not the incoming new players. also majority of new players are likely to be duplicate accounts of people with already play stfc

[winged sand]

there is never that many new players, whenever their is a incursion announced. the "new players" sky rockets as alot of people start creating alts to place on the server they are fighting so they can scout out the zone and level an alt so they can spam attack its ships to cheese the events.

But "Statistics" looks like they are good so scopley allow it

[cyan void]

thats not a bad idea. i should do that. the cheese for points thing 😂

[foggy copper]

why do lvl40's keep getting pitted against lvl50's players in arena...

I end up dead again before even trying to hit anything myself

didn't even get 30points

[cyan void]

congrats you're the first person today to say something 😂

[astral pebble]

This is beyond good and evil...

[strong bolt]

Warum muss arena zum latinum event sein völlig sinnfrei entweder ich farme oder kämpfe

[river temple]

really ? so fun...

[cyan void]

what's the numbers for APAC arenas this week and last week?

I feel I didn't meet much 56-60 players today. same few teams

[river viper]

how do you contact a scopely moderator?

[cyan void]

wrong channel to ask that

[tidal slate]

The mods here only moderate discord and reddit. If you're referring to in game, you would need to contact Support. #👽-how-to-contact-support

[valid junco]

You have to say Jess 3 times and she will appear

[candid fiber]

same old bugs over and over again, stuck in warp

[tall mural]

Sort out match making.....

[jagged ruin]

matchmaking at it's best?

[astral pebble]

you know, where you should go to, right?

[median root]

it is monday, guess what, still perfect matchmaking. arena, arena never changes :/

[jagged ruin]

those are actually beatable 🥹

[plain aurora]

lol red... todsy the last arena played

• lag and position error againdt speed crews any s own teamleader that do nothing during the match
• scoplay destroyed the explorer strike team
• that few 150 prem dust i can draw shouldng destroy my monday...
  RIP Arena

[wraith beacon]

👆

I’ve spent months grinding to upgrade my PVP gear for arenas—but after this week’s absolutely brutal matchups, I think I’m finally done. Goodbye, Arenas. I used to love you… but not like this.

[kindred birch]

Please find a better time. Since this started, i have been able to take part 3!!!!! times. When it starts, i'm usually at work or omw to work. If it can't run long enough for all players to at least have a chance to take part, you shouldn't have added it to the game at all in the first place.
Or at least give us another option for improving Terran. Only once per 4'th week is useless. And that's only, if i'm lucky, that all RL stuff is done and ready for work.
Back to the old drawing board Scopely. This is just to unfair towards players. that don't work regular hours.

[chrome turret]

good god i feel bad for them, what a matchup

[ruby totem]

That the match up I put my phone down and go make a cuppa.

[chrome turret]

right lmao

[odd bough]

Arenas is the worst game mechanic, the worst feature in the game. It excludes 90% of the playerbase. They will not get the top tier and those items are locked behind massive amounts of money. I am doing the painful grind. Joining and waiting. Joining and waiting. Doing chores around the house. Playing other games. Watching TV. Not playing stfc. And once the items needed, that I can get have been gotten...I won't have to ever look back or join again.

It is intentional broken to cater to whales and make them feel superior to everyone else. ..and all us elses....have never contested that we can hurt them!

All this does is errodes turst in the game designers and sows bitterness

[upbeat ridge]

PvP match making at its finest, 3 lv 48s got paired against 2 lv 54s and a lv 49, like wth is that. Seriously scopely

[solemn kelp]

yep that group of 3 are busting people up

[random furnace]

Here we go..... this is awesome. A 61 started our group.

[coarse compass]

Is there any information/source on how to decipher the arena rank badges? The colour gold/silver is pretty obvious but the other markings don’t make obvious sense in terms of gold iii, gold II, gold I etc

[silk spear]

num of pips = level? I currently have 2 pips and am at level 2 for my given badge metal

nvm, it's more pips = higher level

So platinum badge with 3 pips is highest rank

[coarse compass]

In my screenshot the gold with 2 pips is gold 3. So if “1” is 3 pips and “3” is 2 pips, what is “2”?

[cyan void]

if U see this, the team on the right that should be gold 2

[coarse compass]

I’ve also seen ones with all 4 pips filled. Then also some have those red crest things behind the diamond or on top of the diamond while others have none at all

[cyan void]

then on the right for the bronze rank that looks very grand. that's the rank for rank 1

rank 1 always looks extremely grand while the other 2 ranks look more modest

it differs from gold/plat/silver etc but roughly all the rank 1 will follow how that trophy looks

[gloomy rover]

Bronze Tier
Bronze I: Simple bronze square with one small diamond.
Bronze II: Bronze square with two diamonds.
Bronze III: Bronze square with three diamonds.

Silver Tier
Silver I: Silver square with one diamond, some metal edging.
Silver II: Silver square with two diamonds.
Silver III: Silver square with three diamonds.

Gold Tier
Gold I: Gold square with one diamond, ribbon underneath.
Gold II: Gold square with two diamonds.
Gold III: Gold square with three diamonds. (This is the one you showed.)

Platinum Tier (Top Tier)
Platinum I: Platinum frame with one diamond, often blue accents.
Platinum II: Platinum with two diamonds.
Platinum III: Platinum with three diamonds.

[cyan void]

lmao there's no dilithiym and parsteel tier. don't confuse him😂

[gloomy rover]

Here’s how it works:

The diamonds in the center do not directly represent “rank within tier” in a strict 1-2-3 diamond count way.

Instead, each tier (Gold, Platinum, etc.) has its own distinct emblem style, and the I/II/III sub-level is usually indicated by rank text or additional graphical accents (like ribbon colors, border glow, or background changes), not purely by counting diamonds.

In your image, the two diamonds in the center are just a design choice of the Gold tier, not literal "three diamonds = III". The actual subdivision (I, II, III) is shown in-game separately (for example, on the ranking text in the UI).

[gloomy rover]

chatgpt for yeh 😄

[cyan void]

usually the btr estimate for someone's skill is power

[gloomy rover]

You are absolutely correct — thank you for catching that!

In Star Trek Fleet Command (STFC) Arenas, as of current game versions:

✅ Official Arena tiers
Bronze (I, II, III)

Silver (I, II, III)

Gold (I, II, III)

Platinum (I, II, III)

👉 Platinum III is the highest rank.
There are no Dilithium or Parsteel tiers in the Arena. Those terms sometimes appear in other parts of the game (like resource references), but not in Arena ranking.

its fun to correct the AI 😄

[cyan void]

lol

I wonder which troll told gpt RSS tiers are a thing😂

[gloomy rover]

well the other day i was asking it about officers not in shows or movies, and it thinks 5/11 is Riker 😄

[coarse compass]

On the mat hip screen you don't get any additional text cues, only the logos

[gloomy rover]

Open the arena screen it says your rank under the symbol

[coarse compass]

Yeah but that doesnt help when you are trying to join a public team or being matched against a team, to try and figure out what rank each player is

I know what my own rank is, what I'm trying to figure out is what rank others are (at a glance)

[gloomy rover]

If you try to figure that out your not gonna have fun trust me, your better off playing let’s flip the coin and hope this round your team is the overpowered winner 🤣

This week my score was 3-7 (the 3 I won my team was overpowered) out off the 10 matches only 1 was fair match score was 263 / 314 (I lost but was fair fun match)

[coarse compass]

Platinum 1 is highest rank and has 3 pips , so what you posted doesn’t seem right

[gloomy rover]

Never trust AI

[coarse compass]

If I wanted to ask an ai to hallucinate an answer I could’ve done that myself. Was asking here hoping for an actual answer from people who know

[gloomy rover]

People here do what I do just google it 🤣

[cyan void]

I'm plat 1. passed thru all the ranks. I don't even rmb what each rank looks like anymore🤣

[astral skiff]

I hate this stupid game.

[sullen crane]

Now I remember why I don't do these anymore. Besides the long loading time and lag, the pairing stinks, and it seems all the ones doing arena spend lots of money to have all the latest gadgets. There was an ops 60 player with a 4 billion ship and tech I've never seen before. I have a maxed Ent D, and mine is only 3.2 million. Nope. Hard pass on doing these anymore. F2p people like me don't have a chance against the strutting peacocks looking to show off all the money they've plopped into this game.

[flat rain]

The best part is the sheer amount of loot it takes to even attain the Mirror Officers in the Terran faction store because you dont get enough for full pulls of any of the Epics even at the top.

This week, in six days I'll have enough to finally, T3 Mirror Uhura.

Forget having enough to even work on Picard or Kira.

[gloomy rover]

Your g5 epic ent-d is 3.2million? My g4 kelvin T9 is 150m 🤣

Ent-d for me out of dock freshly built is 1B their is no way your ent is 3.2million

[cyan void]

he forgot the b 😂

[fierce niche]

Each of the 60s ships had more power than our entire fleet. 50-56 against 53-60. Fair and balanced. smh

[cyan void]

lol they cheesed matchmaking

[trim notch]

both groups did. Someone unfortunately got the short end of that stick.

[cyan void]

i did that at 56 😂 . me and 2 other 52s

[charred barn]

in what world...

[flat rain]

I love it when the Arena sits here in the middle of a Match..

[spice fjord]

Quit button. Quit button. Stop wasting our time and give us a darn quit button already!!!

Hey 2 62 whales, then a 60 even whalier whale after that. Let me QUIT

[lavish pollen]

how about having squads that haven't been active for more than 5 minutes stop showing up on the public squads list

and by active i mean been in an arena

[pulsar geyser]

This is NOT a brand new event. So why am I not allowed to enter the fight? I rebooted TEN times and got the same ridiculous error message EVERY TIME. If your programmers can’t make this event stable then what the **** are you doing?

[cyan void]

alliance tournaments has problems everytime it runs, u expect arenas to be stable? 🤣

[pulsar geyser]

lol good point. Nothing in this game is stable except their systems to take our money.

Those NEVER seem to have problems.

[cyan void]

also how their website/store is always up to date🤣 🤣 🤣

and how they still havnt fixed the bug where clicking on any tab in the event store directs U to the in game store instead🤣

[pulsar geyser]

😂😂😂😂

[cyan void]

also we asked for a search function to look for items in inventory if they weren't gonna clean it up for us

guess what

they put it in the web store instead🤣 🤣 🤣

well at least I get a laugh from these incidents 😂

[pulsar geyser]

Oh, I tried the search function. I am still shaking my head at the results it gave me.

But, yes I agree that what would seem to be simple tweaks to actually help players seems too hard.

Or, not a priority

[cyan void]

if not money

no do

or smt along those lines

[lilac lichen]

<@&509690795536941056>: last week, under 6k total, Just over 3K U.S. participants. What are you going to do?

[white sorrel]

Took almost 30 minutes just to get a community team together when I tried last week. Dead mechanic... And it's walling off good rewards for the entire community.

[lilac lichen]

I actually had really good runs last week, but lots and lots of effort . I’ll continue until I can afford the extremely expensive g6 ship efficiency

[white sorrel]

That's great to hear! I did okay myself for the first time in a long time... Of course I had to get with a really really good whale to carry us for a few, but I can at least say they were somewhat balanced.

[pseudo sand]

I'd like to extend my gratitude for such a favored matchup. 🙏🏼

[gloomy rover]

Sure there might be a post from those 3 on other team complaining about bad match up 🤣

[white sorrel]

<@&509690795536941056> totally fair. Working as intended I see.

[thorn thicket]

Absolutely bad matchmaking. Also would like to add that your team is underpowered for ops levels.

[cyan void]

it depends if they did their Def plats or not

I've seen ppl with horrible power but their ships are rlly good

[modest jasper]

Meine Schiffe sind immer wesendlich langsamer als die der Gegner obwohl ich 275Impuls habe. DieGegener sind seit 3Wochen zu 90% mindestens 3mal so Mächtig.

WO kann mann diesen ARENA Gott Modus kaufen und was kostet er? Wahrscheinlicher ist das die Gegner Bots sind, nur die sind zu dämlich der KI die richtigen befehle zu geben^^

Der neuste GAG von Scopley, jeder Gegener besiegt dich, da kommt ein 40Mio der einen 250Mio zerstörrt, völlig egal. Da war zb. ein Gorn Ausweider der 10mal mächtigere schiffe reihenweise gekillt hatte.

😂

[rocky crypt]

Just wonderful.

[slender stone]

The squad screen is ridiculous. All it gives me is squads with inactive leaders. At least show active squads.
Suggestions: have a little marker to show when a leader has been inactive for a given amount of time.

[marsh drift]

Lagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

Call in the back up hamsters please!

[minor juniper]

goood jobe arena!

[flat basalt]

[rocky crypt]

Same old story... Armada not respawning correctly.

[regal aspen]

The lag is totally terrible today

I could not see any score until the arena ended

Not kill hostiles.. and with 800 Mbps up and down...its not my internet

[crystal talon]

Who is talking about lags. The whole concept is bs because the strongest ship kills all others. And the matchmaking is ridiculous too. Regularly you get assigned to players with ships 2-3 times the strongest ship in the group. Oh and then the lovely public squads with tons of inactive leaders where you need a lot of trials until you find an active one. Scopely should auto-close those inactive squads after 5 mins or so.

Oh and btw, it's working perfect on my 10Gbit Fibre so maybe it's still your link. 800Mbps is not even 1G, and is always best effort. I bet your real speed is way below 800.

[mossy granite]

2 missing small armadas at round start

[trim crow]

kill hostiles for those to spawn

[neon heart]

So exactly how does anyone stand a chance with Scopelys "excellent" "balanced" "fixed" matchmaking?

[fair matrix]

Im so sick of the inkompetent Programmversion : Positionbugs in Arena, from time to time "Problems with inet pls restarte Client" and Arena pairings so clever a 12year old child could Do it better. From me i Do Not award this with any Shopping anymore Till All problems solved.

[stark raven]

chaos: other squad visible in our system

[stark raven]

@vagrant linden

[indigo atlas]

This! its a joke

[vagrant linden]

what do i have to do with that?

[snow smelt]

I really couldn't care less about the match making is what it is, the WASTED TIME, with the reboots to get out of an arena is infuriating

Just not cool

[stark raven]

I hoped that’s you in the vid?!

[vagrant linden]

i haven’t even logged in today, plus i haven’t done a single arena in months

[storm vine]

the ship positions and latency today are from another planet

[hazy basin]

Can we seperate arena by servers? fighting people who have been the same ops for 2-3 years just isn't right for the newer servers, it's a different game

[shy linden]

scopely, please, be serious

[raw needle]

Here we are again, at the once a week, always on monday, less then half day event... Arena!

And Scopely has done such an amazing job with matchmaking...

[vapid marsh]

Either the pairings are skewed or the lag makes arena unplayable. Last one crashed twice and then armadas weren’t spawning so even when possible to win… can’t.

[hazy basin]

Making certain rewards based on arena tier is just broken, only people with primes can grab them after a certain level. every game today has been a mismatch

And that leans back into 1 year players vs people playing for 5-6 years. just not playing the same game

[raw needle]

Also, and I can only speak to where I'm at, but that level 60 threshold... g5 epics smash everything below them. The spike in what they can do is far more than the 1 level difference would imply...

But with the Innovative Engineering perk meaning a difference of abount half a million faction credits in the price of a g5 epic...

Can't get tiered up in arena without them, dont want to level and build them without getting higher in arena.

[keen sigil]

something has to give here.
the match is more than DOUBLE our teams power. there is NOTHING we can do against an active lvl 70.
every singe one of my matches is like this.

[sturdy seal]

Thought the brackets were within 4 no?

[gloomy rover]

Within 4 on your team your highest is 49 so you have possibility of going against a ops 61 (unlikely but possible)

[candid ruin]

Scopely needs to make a give up / admit defeat button. I keep getting paired up with squads that I have no chance against. Instead of waiting for some timer to expire one should be able to just leave the match to try again.

No way to defend against this if the strongest ship in the squad is only 200 million power.

[short kayak]

They gotta work on this disappearing ships thing. 1 match lost because of it 🙈

And another match where one of us couldn’t even rejoin. No link to arena. They were in at beginning. But disconnected and they couldn’t get back in

[fierce niche]

Yet ANOTHER week of having the cerritos, titan AND mantis neutered in arenas becasue using them once requires a complete restart to get their special abilities to work again. FIX THIS. Arenas are so aggravating, you've got major portions of the player base willing to bypass them because of such a shoddy product

[sturdy seal]

again what happened to the bracket? + - 4 ?

[inner plover]

+4/-4 is for starting a group, not your opponent

[sturdy seal]

oh ok well that is lame so I should join highest possible team I can ?

[modern plume]

Been saying this for months. A forfeit option, take the loss, and go back to start

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-people-complaining-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-why-are-people-making-noise-why-are-they-protesting-gif-21975068

[fierce niche]

For what it's worth, ops-wise this is the most evenly matched groups I've seen in months. both teams with a 45 and 46 and then the 3rd only differ by one ops. Even the combined power levels are 27m apart. Thats only like a 4 or 5% difference. I'd fight matches like that all night long

[hazy basin]

I swear after today, there's no point to spending a cent on pvp gear or events. good job, lol

[fierce niche]

They show consistently that is the only way to progress in these type of events. They aren't looking for player engagement and enjoyment. They're looking for revenue.

[hazy basin]

Point is, it's all primes, no ship tier, no officer tier, no research, no FT/CT... matter when it comes down to it. and I'm not dropping that loot on this 6 year old game when these guys are 5 years ahead of me

[spice fjord]

One, as always, QUIT BUTTON.

Two, maybe fix the basics of your game before you embark on a 6 month multi arc arc where you add in another 400 things we have to do. Having to face a whale that's 4 levels under me slapping me around is bad enough without the game breaking in said whales favor, not letting my one winning ship target his, or letting it just fly by me for now reason when I met it at the target point.

[sly violet]

great match

[spice fjord]

Hey great 3 matches 3 whales each one more whaley than the last.

I'm not ragebuying PvP stuff I'm going to just quit playing soon. So tired of this garbage.

[sly violet]

jokes on u Scopely hahahah

[obsidian harbor]

what about squad leaders not readying up? auto-disband the squad if they don't ready up for 5 minutes, they pollute the public squad list

[cyan void]

epics can completely slap a rare same tier same research so its not completely fair but its as close as you can get tbh

[faint wharf]

Really you call that fair? What's wrong with you people? All anyone wants is fairness and you have had more than enough months to fix it. You are the result of this a you should be embarrassed. This is not a good job, it negligent and unprofessional. Enjoy your shame, hopefully you realize you sux. If you had done a good job I would have praised you and given you accolades. Instead you demonstrate you dont care about true competition and fairness.

[low pier]

My ships wouldn’t even attack several times today. They just moved next to the target and sat. Probably my last arena if we’re getting a mega multi month super flash grind and there’s no visible effort to fix the arena issues.

[trim notch]

I think I had an issue that actually helped in my favor similar to yours.

I had 2 ships on an armada circle, and before the 10 second countdown starts, I moved one of them away to target a player. I was unable to hit the player, and it seems that they were not able to target me either until the armada attack.

[faint wharf]

Im so frustrated, week after week, month after month you simply don't care. Why do you think your users work hard all week and some $$$$? So you can pull this disgraceful stuff? Your just blue falcon everyone, taking their hard work and money and delivering on Monday this crap. Fix it or I will get back to things that actually matter and not the crappy thing you call arena. Im not mad, but you should be. Have a nice evening.

[spice fjord]

Took a breather came back faced a 63 that was untouchable. Way to waste time.

[silver mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-truck-unicorn-unicorn-monster-truck-gif-15886761791006583136

[quaint junco]

I think the suggestion to auto-disband any group where the starter doesn't hit the ready button within 5 minutes is a great one. It already takes a long time to run enough arenas to the loot needed for a week. Shouldn't have to join/ leave/ and join groups for half an hour before actually getting to play.

[median root]

finally the arena update we all asked for: "Fixed an XP issue where ships transferred to Arena from mining did not receive their earned mining XP."

[trim notch]

And this is why I tell people to actually give it a try. Good work.

[north spruce]

Tried it…. Nice on the unicorn wins. Not the general experience

[cold fiber]

Kick party leaders who don’t ready up within 1-2 minutes. They’re either online and trying to run their arenas or they’re wasting everyone else’s time tbh.

[idle junco]

I like arenas but think the matching is still super dodgy. Often I'm completely out gunned by opposing team or we outgun them- rarely a contest of "equals"

[rough pond]

Just get rid of arena in general and award a weekly rep/currency chest. I gave up months ago on this crap due to the matchmaking and balancing. 0 wins out of who knows how many attempts

[junior oak]

Arena is dead. Nobody cares. Give us some alternative sourcing for Mirror Uhura and the rest of the concept can rot happily in the background.

[hallow sparrow]

get rid of arena your programmers broke it like they done to the past dozen arc events. Time to start firing them.

[plain aurora]

the mirror dust is better then each officer... hope for more dust... if i get no more dust i wont fight in arena in future

[late rune]

I like arenas. Good pvp test

[grim wagon]

Why even make them hit a ready button. If you joined ur ready. Get rid of that whole stupid part that doesn't work. No need for a ready button

[rose locust]

I have had better luck with ops all close to each other.

[quaint junco]

What if for matchmaking, you base it off of the highest player only (Based on ops and ranking)

This would encourage players to create teams with players of somewhat equal ability, and minimize the disparity of the lowest lvl players getting overpowered.

No idea how well this would work, but it's a thought.

Currently you get the "best" match having a wide range of ops, 56, 60, 64 for example. With this change you would be best served having 3 60's. This MIGHT create a more balanced match on average.

I know you would still get times when you have 3 60s going against 3 59s, but at least hopefully you would be on the higher side of that sometimes.

[mellow ember]

How do you get out of a squad that is stuck in matching for the last half hour and the squad leader has gone AFK?....

[cerulean otter]

Feedback: 24-Hour, Cross-Regional Arenas for APAC Ops 61+

Hello STFC Team,

I’d like to propose opening arenas as a continuous 24-hour event with cross-regional matchmaking for Ops 61+ captains. This change would expand the opponent pool beyond the five APAC servers, reduce repetitive matchups, and give mid-tier players fresh, fair battles around the clock.

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Current Challenges

• Limited Windows
Arena phases only run during specific hours, creating peak/off-peak imbalances.
• Regional Silos
APAC-only pools force repeated encounters with the same rosters.
• Mid-Tier Frustration
Ops 61+ players face “brick wall” matchups and drop activity when they can’t find fair opponents.

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Proposed Solution: 24-Hour, Cross-Regional Arenas

1. Continuous Access• Remove time restrictions so arenas run for a full day.
   • Smooths queue times and lets captains compete whenever they’re online.

2. Cross-Regional Pooling• Merge APAC, EU, and NA pools dynamically based on active player counts.
   • Match first by average Ops (±2), then by total Combat Power.

3. Region-Aware Balancing• During local off-peak, prioritize cross-region pairings to boost pool size.
   • Rotate “guest” slots so no region is overwhelmed by outsiders.

4. Fairness Safeguards• Enforce a max Ops spread (highest vs. lowest) ≤ 6 per team.
   • Trigger a pool shuffle after X rematches against the same opponents.

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Expected Benefits

• Expanded Opponent Diversity
Fewer repeats, more varied strategies, and improved engagement.
• Fairer Competition
Continuous, tier-balanced matchups reduce discouraging losses.
• Boosted Retention
Full day access and fresh rosters keep mid-tier captains motivated.

Thank you for considering 24-hour, cross-regional arenas for OP 61+ in APAC. We believe this will revitalize mid-tier play and strengthen the community globally. I’m happy to discuss further or assist with testing.

[cyan void]

u cant

you're stuck

[clever monolith]

Hows this match possible

[clever monolith]

This is not 4lvl difference

[inner plover]

It's +4/-4 for launching a group, not who you face

[mossy granite]

Where is the quit button for unfair matches? Asking for a frustrated friend ...

[fast patio]

What the hell?

[sand crag]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[round wasp]

Would be nice if I could have ships to select in this arena. Hard to fight arenas without any ships.

[viral condor]

lol.

[glossy cobalt]

Am i the only one who cant attack ships today? I click and ship doesnt attack.

[golden mortar]

My god areans are HORRIBLE TODAY. I can not attack anything....just spins and spins and spins. Ship tracking not work, as ships are sliding everywhere. Something is seriously messed up. <@&509690795536941056> - It needs to be looked at ASAP or taken down.

[red elm]

👆 Yep, worst arena performance in months.

[cloud prairie]

it would seem that I am not the only one experiencing completely unplayable arenas

[somber moth]

Laaaaaaaaag S29

[spice fjord]

Quuuuuiiiiittttt buttooonnnnn

If I can figure out in one battle that an arena is unwinnable let me bail already

And thats on top of the lag and the constant allowance for these whales to be untargettable

[spark cradle]

Fix your servers so we can play without atrocious lag!

[subtle dagger]

I realize there was a post about this, and I am not the first to post this, but yes... The lag today is ATROCIOUS! My team plays every week, so we know what is usual and what isn't. Today is unacceptable. Thankfully, we didn't lose rank, but I am honestly surprised because of how bad it was. Also, it was over the 4 matches we played between 5pm-6pm ET, when we discussed it in AC and said NOPE

[golden mortar]

Same here. I am regular arena goer, and I’ve gotten use to the regular bugs. It’s a whole new ball of mess today.

[astral skiff]

Here's a thought; STOP making the game incredibly UNBALANCED and maybe folks will participate! Selling HUNDREDS of percent of iso this month just widens the gap dum dums.

[sly violet]

yay arena is back!!!

[lilac lichen]

I got my g6 engineering favor 2 days ago. Think I’m done for good on arenas….

[hazy basin]

Dear 🐳 good luck beating me up in arena, stuck in Transogen token space for 10 days a run, leave a light on for me

[wicked tulip]

That’s when I bowed out also

[storm gate]

we get 8 hours a week to do an actual pvp thing, which is going to be fun maybe 1 out of 5 matches because of the absurd balance issues. But I still do it for that 1 out of 5 fun times. And then we get this completely unplayable lag?

[astral skiff]

NO. Bad Scopley!!

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-brian-peter-no-gif-25791524

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassing-actually-embarrassed-embarrassed-for-you-gif-5708996

[jade marlin]

Arenas suck,enough said. The person or persons who thought these up up should be tortured in a horrendous manner.

[white sorrel]

They should just get rid of the event all together.

These are terrible.

[white sorrel]

They should be made to finish events everyday. If not they have to run 10 mi and do 500 push-ups.

I'm willing to bet there's not a Dev that can do 20 push-ups LOL.

[wraith beacon]

WTF

[cyan void]

granted it actually wasnt this bad when it started out. it just got progressively worse the more they tried to balance things

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-no-problem-here-crazy-eyes-gif-12788383

[wraith beacon]

That’s Dopley for u

[cyan void]

yea they pretend the bug doesnt exist until it starts causing huge issues

[humble jetty]

Really!! Come on!

My squad range is 42-50, maybe the opponent should have the same...?

[gleaming spade]

Here is one perfectly balanced as well

[minor ice]

Arena matchmaking brackets should correspond to major Shipyard tiers, end of story.

Restrict it to ops levels that have the same ship access, and victory primarily becomes a matter of prep, coordination, strategy, and tactics.

Which I imagine is how the vast majority of players feel it should be.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while using a speed crew, on top of everything else!), it pretty much invalidates the entire match.

[autumn sparrow]

I mean, I appreciate getting the matches rather than being in an endless waiting queue.
However, could you at least try and make them balanced?
These 2 were a complete walkover. I’d at least like the opportunity to try and improve my ranking rather than getting mullered every time.

[white sorrel]

I only had two pulls left to get this finished but I can't access the premium dust anymore because my level dropped from 35,000 to 21. And it had nothing to do with my ability as a player. <@&509690795536941056>.

[golden mortar]

Areans were not very smooth last night. Lots of lag, couldn’t click attack, ships stuck in warp, ship tracking was off and ships were fishtailing around the rink. Please work on it. It is not healthy. I very much enjoy arenas, but the tech issues are tough to deal with.

[neon sky]

Arenas seem like did you buy the shiny toy or not event. No planning or strategy needed unless you just happen magicly get an even match pairing to go against

[safe frost]

Our team beat the biggest EU player with strategy. There are definitely unbeatable matchups (the triple 70s are annoying), but you can win through strategy

[eager radish]

They didn't find you an opponent, they found your executioners. 🫤

Any wonder why I don't bother with arenas.

[plain aurora]

that works only withoit lags and when your ping is way better... that dosnt work if ships not moving whdn you press the button or not there where you can see it... i have that problems... i was loosing matches because that... and we font talt about stuck in warp, no drydocks to select a ship, connection lost... and so on... i restart the game after each match but that dont protect me...

[safe frost]

Yeah that match immediately after that I couldn’t do anything because of lags 😆

We obviously lost that one because I couldn’t do any armadas or even shoot hostiles

[minor ice]

Reiterating this request because it's still just as relevant as ever.
.
.
.
The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven (or every eight days, if you can't stomach the idea of making something slightly more convenient when you could make it slightly less so 🙄).

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on Monday evenings. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.

And if you absolutely must run it on the same day each week, don't pick the same day as the only other weekly event that gets massively penalized for trying to participate in both 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
.
2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or eventually there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but would still like to see it accessible for everyone

[slate plinth]

When will everyone get a chance to participate? I been waiting since it launched, but the time hasn’t shifted to allow everyone to participate

[oak linden]

Give us the ability to pm members of a squad before entering the arena area. To tell them to click ready.
Make it so!

[cyan void]

seems like theres only around 5k active arena players now 😂

[valid junco]

And I’m not one of them

[worthy dirge]

I’ve given up on arenas as well. They are too unstable to even enjoy the poor matchmaking!

And they just take too much time to grind the pulls.

[cold fiber]

Yeah bro I’d just log out if I saw that ngl — absolutely ridiculous that Scopely can’t seem to fix things like this.

[thorn thicket]

The game has pushed newer folks to ops up too fast. Lots of 45 to 57 ops with too low power and weak ships They either get crushed by 5+ year veteran slow grinders or decimated by larger spenders. Oh and just because a player "spends", doesn't mean they know how it all works together.

[compact jackal]

Spending overcomes ignorance in most cases.

[cyan void]

woohoo its arena for apac in 12 hrs 55mins

[uneven wing]

sounds like you should get some sleep

[cyan void]

U were 6 hrs too late🤣

[celest folio]

Amazing matchmaking.... anyone surprised that we lost ?

[steady bison]

C'mon, we totally could have had them...

[plain aurora]

outch... whats that? thsts no matchmaking thatd diner for the big... its similar for a slave bond on a stake in the colluseum and lions attack in the roman empirer 2000 years ago... that shoulnd possible... than matchmaking should stop if no group in range aviable...

[celest folio]

What you might not realise is that they are my alliance, so my mates. With the only server Vengence in Noon’s roster, so the alliance chat on this match (twice) was amusing.

[steady bison]

I'm well aware. Next time you need to coordinate better with them so that you know they're already in a match before you click ready to avoid this sort of thing... 😂
That was also far from the only garbage matchup I got today too, but it was the most egregious.

[tall bobcat]

How is this S even fair

[brisk dragon]

all 3 not even in our bracket 😭

[tall bobcat]

B S

[tall bobcat]

Even more BS

[fast patio]

Average 62 vs Average 67. Think I might sit this one out

[fast patio]

and now 3 ops 70. I think this shows arenas is dead

[nocturne dove]

fix it!

[digital geyser]

I've gotten to the conclusion they've abandoned arenas and have moved on. They're using the transogen stuff to give people mirror dust and the efficiency discount.

[cyan void]

still kinda horrible to a certain extent but its not as bad lol

[round wasp]

that's awful. I was about to complain about mine, but that's so much worse.

[robust bobcat]

Only one squad showing in the public squad, and when I click it’s full 😡, just give us the mirror uhura options elsewhere and we can move on from this dead loop <@&509690795536941056>

[robust bobcat]

I just want mirror uhura 😡

[leaden sable]

match balance in Arena is some kind of a catastrophe

[unique isle]

Any leader who starts and doesn’t set to ready when the other two have should be given a time out for thirty minutes after two minutes of waiting.

[astral venture]

What kind of match making is this <@&509690795536941056> ?

Better to stop wasting everyone's time and give out the points with auto win/loss if you're not going to put teams against reasonable opposition.

[spice edge]

This matchmaking is a bit off, lowest one of them is 4 ops higher than the highest of ours. Don't normally complain, but this one was silly.

[lilac pelican]

We have seen that too. They say they are working on it, but after 6 months you gotta think it is just another lie.

[astral venture]

I've never known such an unbalanced and poor match-making system.

May as well give an auto-surrender option so when you see out of balanced arena's like that, you can just take the 400 pts and not waste people's time with this frustrating silliness.

[golden mortar]

It happens, play it the best you can. Use squirrel tactics and any tools you can.......then take the outcome and move on to the next. Play the nubmers and dont focus too hard on one matchup. From my experience, the first two hours is all the hard core folks and the last two hours as well. Play in the middle. Also Scopley.....rotate the darn day already.

[rocky crypt]

during arena's... get your act together!

[vivid sedge]

🤣🤣🤣

[ornate garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-1807502725802114204

[wise oracle]

wtf is this dead matchmaking

[quick flume]

this is my screen every second match. beside bad matchups and constant lag, this is the cherry on top...

[plain aurora]

no win szenario... that mat hmaking is a bad joke

last is the same 2x

ca anyone tell me what scoplay did there?

[shy linden]

scopely please, be sensible

[half hawk]

How?

[spice edge]

Did they change something? It seems worse this week.

[shy linden]

less participants means worse matchups

beyond people getting sick of arena, you also have people that are maximizing their transogen token miners for the slb/sms

[spice edge]

That's true, I almost didn't do it last week, but then I got a random tail respawn so I didn't have a token miner to worry about. Had a 42/42/45 against a 50/54/49 earlier. Managed to win with some armada dancing, but if they'd been on the ball it would have been impossible.

[shy linden]

I hope you sent some very taunting hailing frequencies to that 54, really embarrassing to lose that one with that much shipyard advantage

I like to send a nice cake when I win those

[grim oracle]

Lag, lag, subspace interference… arenas basically unplayable right now. This feature needs to be taken down until it can work right.

[half hawk]

Would also be nice if we had better matchmaking

[random path]

Such a fair match lol

[north lotus]

Arena is broke and I cannot get any ships in after three resets and cleared localization! WTF?!?!?!

[snow narwhal]

keep getting subspace interference when trying to move to armadas

[rigid void]

[rigid void]

besides the mismatched power, my game keeps freezing:

[wide pelican]

I dunno that's first matchup I've ever seen that badly mismatched.. guessing they had been in queue for quite a while

[half hawk]

I did a few arenas today, was in a group of a 60, 61 and another 60, we went against a 68

He alone killed us all, arenas arnt fun anymore

[wraith beacon]

Straight Trash

[half hawk]

That is kinda funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[sly violet]

during arenas my mantis got blocked to use the sting, first time seeing that... and I have the goo to do it

[half hawk]

My relativity has done that before, a restart fixes it

[sly violet]

after restart the ship was like this in the next fight...

[half hawk]

Clear cache mabey?

[sly violet]

on the 3rd fight ship got back to normal

guess it is a new feature in the game lol

[wheat drum]

Please just kill arenas. Such a failed experiment.

A huge portion of people join matches and don’t play. And, most matches aren’t fairly matched. Awful.

[zealous tinsel]

i'm an ops 60

[half hawk]

Looks like my log

[zealous tinsel]

our next match had a friggin 68

still fun tho 🙂

[warped cipher]

really scopely?!

[half hawk]

Thats the worst ive seen

[bright girder]

Well, I’m gonna call it. I think arena’s are dead.

[wintry sparrow]

Go home, $copely. You're drunk.

[paper olive]

[bright girder]

Seeing an awful lot of this. And then having to reboot to get away from it.

[minor ice]

Reiterating this request because it's still just as relevant as ever.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven (or every eight days, if you can't stomach the idea of making something slightly more convenient when you could make it slightly less so 🙄).

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on Monday evenings. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.

And if you absolutely must run it on the same day each week, don't pick the same day as the only other weekly event that gets massively penalized for trying to participate in both 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or eventually there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but would still like to see it accessible for everyone

[cold fiber]

Yeah… I tried again tonight. I ran a bunch and didn’t get a single W. Kept getting paired with the same people who just wiped the floor with us the previous match. No chance. Such a “fun” game mechanic…

[plain aurora]

12 matches 6 ok 4 no win 2 stuck in warp/lag/ship positioning bug...
if the matchmaker goes out of teamrange the lose shouldnt give penalty points... and the win should give extra points... if player dont lose points in s no win match player will try it more and more...
<@&509690795536941056> its a suggestion and please check serverpower... its rediculess if i must reboot after each match...
thx

[old wagon]

I love that they have an arena rating system they could use to try and balance who goes against who and did nothing with it lol. It's always fun being 400 arena rating vs a 65k rating.

[high mason]

👎 👎

Yes, arenas are just plain terrible.

[gloomy rover]

Would not work, surprisingly there is more low ops players at max rating then high ops

[white sorrel]

Completely dead mechanic.

[willow mantle]

If it weren’t for assaults, arena would be worst in game feature

[safe frost]

Surprisingly? Low ops have next to no whales and tons of campers that somewhat know how the game works. Of course there will be more high rank people there compared to g6 that gets stomped by 70s left and right 😄

[flint cloud]

I play a lot of arena. It's great. I see a lot of screenshots where the people simply don't understand the matching process. -obviously- Scoply will screw up, but some of theses screenshots crying unfair are completely fair. Ops lvls opens doors to higher ops lvl oppents

[white sorrel]

What ops level are you?

[flint cloud]

40-46 range

Platinum 1

[rotund wolf]

well that's why

[white sorrel]

Well there you go.

[rotund wolf]

you arent playing with the big boys

[white sorrel]

Anything 61 Plus you're basically dead unless you're a mega whale.

There's just nobody to play with.

I have alliance mates who absolutely dominate these. They're upper 40, low 50s. When I was hops 59/60 and these came out I did really really well. Got my ranking to Platinum 2. However all I've done is go backwards since. I either get a match that is woefully skewed for me or against me but probably 8 out of 10 are skewed against. You've got to have a Max cube and a Max Krensha or you might as well not even bother trying. Especially with the speed being nerfed.

[safe frost]

I’ve managed to stay at max rank since I went to g6. Our group was two folks with veloxes, one of them pretty big and could kill some weaker 70s and me without proper g6 ships but I know how to outplay people (if not for lags). We had like 5% matches without an enemy 70 but could mostly win through strategy. Of course we lost a few to matchmaking but we also managed to beat some mega whales because they didn’t know how to play🤷

[white sorrel]

Sure, we've got the odd win. Even if you use Superior tactics, and that's not real difficult either... You're at the mercy of the lag and the rubber banding and the did you get in the circle or not in time thing that happens all the time.

The week before less than 5,000 people engaged. I'm willing to bet it's less than 4K now.

[safe frost]

Yeah the lag is definitely an issue, but the matchmaking is mostly beatable

[white sorrel]

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I'm not saying it's impossible, but when you end up with three or four mismatches in a row, it's almost impossible to recover.

[safe frost]

Friend of mine in the g4 region had the same team as enemies 4 times, not even in a row. And that’s an EU server, not apac

[white sorrel]

I'm ops 70, and I love PVP. I teach crowing for my alliance and for many people on my server. Not my first rodeo 🙂. But there are '70s and there are '70s. I'm a mid-level spender... Since they nerfed the speed, they took away almost all the tactical advantage. You just can't tactic your way around bigger more powerful ships that you can't run away from. It's damn near impossible.

[safe frost]

Yeah we have someone who’s incredibly unlucky with matchmaking. Either his team mates are bringing miners instead of mantis etc, or he gets some unbeatable matchups

[white sorrel]

If they kept the very first iteration and just figured out the lag, this would have worked.

Five on five with no speed limit... You would really find out who knew how to play and who didn't. That's how I got to platinum 2 and then they nerfed it and that was that. I love exploring and seeing what's new out there, also, I can be a lot more helpful to my alliance for a variety of things. However, selfishly I should have stayed ops 60 and just worked people..

[safe frost]

The biggest threat to tactics is the trashcan. It’s just wildly op in arena. Insta beam that can kill anything below a g5e is just ridiculous against any buff ships or speedboats

[white sorrel]

Man, did you hit that on the head. You sneak yourself in a mantis and boom it's dead. So you just wasted your max fort because the only way to beat somebody a lot bigger was to have them stung and You have your max fort. Don't forget about the speed UPS either... It's a self-propagating system. If you're one of those guys who's bought their way to super powerful ships and you win a lot, you just keep getting the speed UPS.... The repair timer absolutely kills tactics as well. If you're not spending, and you don't have the ranking to get a lot of speed UPS your toast. Cuz even if you win they come right back with a full power ship And you're damaged. Too many things have to go absolutely perfectly in a game that almost nothing works even solidly.

And then there's the next to useless communication system. If you're in public, there's no chance of getting on discord to get on voice.

[safe frost]

At the moment there aren’t a lot of trashcans around, but as soon as the f2p trashcans get high enough it’s just a game of “who can beam first”, imo they should weaken the damage of the beam and just make the debuff viable

And it’s not like they’re exactly weak either. G5es will get useless and folks will just use the trashcan everywhere

[white sorrel]

We have some players in our alliance who have invested heavily in that ship and I got to say, if you love this game it's money well spent.

[warm wagon]

Printscreens speak for themselves. Figure it out. How a 300M Northcutt (me) falls in a match (repeatedly) with 1B Sompeks?

<@&509690795536941056> I think players can do better use of 1h of gameplay than mostly sitting and waiting the other 9 mins after being smashed during the first 1 min, yes?

[old wagon]

I mean if they balanced around ops mixed with arena rating wouldn't that be better than nothing?

[chrome yacht]

Just going to put this here … we all know about the inability to match fairly but ..

[white sorrel]

Thousands of screenshots like that. But it doesn't move the needle.

[flint cloud]

First, I was addressing the mechanics of matching.
Second, I play all the time vs maxed strike/ ENT rikers. Gremlinomw, 404. The whales started over and camp at 42

[flint cloud]

It's because of the left 67. Drop that 67 and you won't face that group

[safe frost]

i think he'll have a hard time doing that

[chrome yacht]

I don’t think there is any Ops 67 that could scratch these beasts of ships. Screenshots from a different match up, so it’s a little one sided

Oh to have those ships in my hanger 😂

Well done to 7ofChr1s as well, they are great ships

[white sorrel]

I'm willing to bet less than 2,500 players engaged this week. I expect that number to go down significantly next week.

[sly violet]

My thoughts of arenas

scopely way of matching is: op starter +4 -4, so when a 64 create a squad he can get op 60 and op 68 in the team, that means if the other team have 3 op 68, they consider it a fair match because the 68 is the highest op considering the op starter that is a 64... but this is far from fair, we all know that!

a good thing to do would change the way to: sum the power of the squad (op 64 1,2B + op 60 0,6B + op 68 4B = 5,8B strength) and u find opponents with something like +10% -10% power, so a 5,8B squad could face squads with 6,38B or 5,22B total power. that change would bring fair fights, people could use real strategy to try to win the match they are overpowered.

also, the impulse speed needs to come back to the arenas, cut out the 250 cap

we must have a chat tab with the arena squad only, so when we open public squads we can talk to each other, communication is much important in Star Trek universe, it always was and scopely choose to forget that. it is imperative the the communication needs to be improved

squad screen need to change, first button 'join' needs to be changed to 'view' and in the 2nd screen that opens after clicking in 'view', need to add 'join', 'ready', 'cancel ready' buttons to the squad team screen, so the player can click to view the squad, player can check the other team mates and decides to join that team, then press the 'join' button and click 'ready' to show ready to fight. squad owner screen need to add 'deploy squad' button, so the player can evaluate the team and click to 'deploy squad'

[flint cloud]

Your matching thoughts are incorrect. I have tried. If I have a 40 start with 2 44s, as an example, they can easily get 2 46s.

It has more to do with some one in the group being above a ship lvl.

It opens the potential roster to the next ship group, in this example 46 ships

Put another way, 3 41s will never see a 46.

[kind sluice]

Impossible surprise for one side! Your balancing is underground! Now ask yourselves whether this is a sensible pairing. Please revise it. It is so necessary.

[gloomy rover]

not really, this is why PvP in general is a broken system in this game. even if you went against all players the same ops lvl you could still massively lose (Pay vs Free) there is no real fair way they could do it, you just have to pray your team ends up being the overpowered one 😄

[old wagon]

I didn't say it would be a fix to everything but having it balance near similar ops and arena rating is better then having absolutely nothing.

[gloomy rover]

removing loss points would fix all there problems

[spice fjord]

Had to stop reading after sentence one. You quote the +4 -4 then immediately screw up the math and have a 70 on a 64s team. (I kid, I read it and everything else is good. But cmon...)

[sly violet]

lol ur right… tks I have corrected the text

[lilac lichen]

wew <@&509690795536941056> - under 5K participation this week. lets open up the terran sourcing ( a bit ) in a creative way............

[short kayak]

Replace arenas with 1-2 weekly temporary transfer tokens. Earn points on other servers for a limited time like arenas that count in the faction store🤔

[white sorrel]

I must have said this 25 or 30 times in the beginning... Just stop making the losses hurt so damn bad and people wouldn't care about the mismatches so much. However, the requisite intelligence to make such a simple fix is lacking.

[noble wasp]

also, being able to repair the normal way would be better for some.

[spark cradle]

Imo Arenas is a great idea & would be fun if the match making and lag didn't make it unplayable

[robust bobcat]

Give me another way to source mirror uhura shards and I can stop hoping this section of the game will be fixed and move on with my life 🤣

[short kayak]

I haven’t seen her in PVP in forever for what it’s worth 🤷🏻‍♂️
The higher PvP brxkets that is. Tells a lot. Just saying. She ain’t all that

[tribal hornet]

Allow spectators for the matches and allow them to bet on the matches with latinum or some type of arena credits. Basically every time you pull something that doesn't say guaranteed your gambling so why not be able to gamble on other players arena matches.

[valid junco]

Game is 12+

[lucid sonnet]

googleplay has the game rating as pegi 7 though? how a 7yr old can afford this game is beyond realistic.

[tall bobcat]

it is pretty much an unregulated gambling game...

[visual dock]

I never use the arena because all the players in my level range are so much stronger. Please make it based on strength, not levels alone. Or at least make that a factor in the pairing, i'm not the only one in my alliance to avoid the arena for that very reason

[cyan void]

wonder whats the numbers for arenas this week

[stoic rapids]

WHAAAAATTTT????

[potent girder]

once, as a lvl 45, I went against a lvl 55

[fast patio]

FML

[white sorrel]

Well everything they do is predicated on gouging you out of your money. So they created a problem and they were hoping people would buy their way out of them.

[median root]

exiting arenas always stops at 70% and then i have to restart

[cyan void]

my apologies 🤣

[surreal latch]

Every single starter in my ops range is afk. Can we please have time limits for open squads?

[white sorrel]

One can only hope that nobody engages in this content going forward. Surely those that actually benefit from them have gotten everything from it they can.

[sacred belfry]

Arena still lagging and still uneven matches

[soft hull]

Wow cant even get in arenas at the present keeps crashing while loading it

[gusty ember]

<@&509690795536941056> you really have to do something about the scoring, you shouldn't lose 600 points for a loss and gain 600 points for a win, need to gain more than you lose if you go 1-1

[winged sand]

Balance...

[tardy prairie]

today's experience very Bad, terrible lag. repeatedly need to clear the cache to jump in/out arena

write about win/loose points ratio totally uselles, nothing happened... for me,u Can shutdown this stupid event

[uncut forum]

This event should be scrapped until they can sort this 💩 out

[strong mortar]

ermmm, this was like a 5 sec match up too

[alpine orbit]

I suspect they have entirely cancelled any form of fairness based matchmaking because of the severe lack of participation, hardly anybody plays arena anymore, you'd be waiting up to an hour for an even matchup in some instances I reckon

[strong mortar]

they sucked!

going against a 63 now though, theyve def removed the +-4

id rather it took a min or 2 to search, these are matching within 10 secs

[slow sonnet]

Cmon 🤦🏽‍♀️

[storm vine]

3rd time in a row locked in a battle.
after relog, ship is "damaged" docked (without beeing killed in the fight)

[strong mortar]

Akira not all that

[inner plover]

Noneof the g6 unc are

[frail robin]

WTF the lagging servers tonight.... it's awfull

and the blank screen remaining when you're checking potential teammates... 3rd reboot tonight

[autumn sparrow]

Can someone from scopely explain how your match making works, because this looks like bs to me.

[strong mortar]

seems pretty fair that

[late sparrow]

Wish mine was that close in lvl

[strong mortar]

👀 im seeing double

[autumn sparrow]

Wow! And I thought mine was bad 😂

[wicked tulip]

I think your screenshots are essentially everyone left that plays arenas 🤣 .

[snow smelt]

Why why why why does it take 4 splash screens and half an hour after an arena bout

[vivid sedge]

🤣🤣🤣

[snow smelt]

Laggyeest rubbish known to man even with no one doing them

[shy linden]

the worst part is the high levels didn't bother starting armadas, so it took forever to finish

[astral skiff]

Premium mirror dust sourcing from flashpoints is the final nail in coffin for arenas. Dead feature. Time to just close this room up.

[mighty vector]

Arena sucks balls, fix pvp

[rich citrus]

The matching was unusual good today 👍

in the last 3 hours you usually get bad matchups, but today 10/10 evenly matched

[tropic perch]

That's because a ton of people quit

[rich citrus]

How’s fair matching going to improve by a smaller pool to choose from? I thought people quitting was the reason for bad matchups lately, no?

[tropic perch]

Because people who refused to play before due to the imbalance are now coming out to play. The aggressive people quit so now you have the tame PvE players engaging.

[rich citrus]

idk as long as it smoothes out the matching, can’t say I hate it 😂

[tropic perch]

You say that now, but wait until you start getting ads.

[rich citrus]

lol that might make me quit tbf

[north lotus]

Just can’t stop restarting enough to play the game

Just exhausting, why most don’t even bother

[minor ice]

It's Monday, so here we go again.

Reiterating this request because it's still just as relevant as ever.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven (or every eight days, if you can't stomach the idea of making something slightly more convenient when you could make it slightly less so 🙄).

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on Monday evenings. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.

And if you absolutely must run it on the same day each week, don't pick the same day as the only other weekly event that gets massively penalized for trying to participate in both 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or eventually there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but would still like to see it accessible for everyone

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As an additional note, there are some mechanical issues that need addressed in addition to the design issues above.

1. Get rid of snap targeting for armada circles! Seriously, if anyone needed proof that the devs don't play the game, THIS IS IT. No one, NO ONE, has ever tried to click on an armada banner and OOPS targeted a ship instead. But how many times in a single match does an armada banner/circle prevent one from targeting an enemy player? ANSWER: TOO OFTEN TO COUNT.

The armadas (at least in the Arena system) should require VERY specific targeting. When in doubt, assume the player meant to click a ship. In fact, make the armada banners ~50% transparent, so we can click things that are obscured behind them without having to zoom in 90%.

2. STOP shifting the camera, AND TARGETING FOCUS, to an armada the moment I start one. We control two ships, and in all likelihood one we send one to an armada, we're going to immediately want to do something else with the other ship. It's hugely detrimental to have everything yanked back to the armada circle when I just found my other ship and was about to issue a command.

3. When I DO start an armada... and my stupid ship to the circle. Sporadically discovering that my ship just decided to... not go, right as the time reaches 10 seconds, is a good way to make me want to quit altogether.

[obtuse blaze]

After reading each arena battlelog reports its clear people who spent lots of money on this game will be the winner of this mode. Its not even a beta phase, there should be a joke mode for this mode designation, managers with zero experience, wasting people's time. Yeah, its a Joke mode. Whole this game belongs to trash can. Im out of your circus after wasting 3 years of playing this Joke mode game.

[cold niche]

FIX THE DAMN GAME!!!!!

[low dawn]

Anyone else having problems playing the arena tonight and not being able to log in?

[honest nacelle]

I'm Ops 48. I started the Arena. How am I going up against 54's consistenly??

[brave yoke]

Unplayable tonight (28 July). Every time i look at a sqaud and try to back out, the game freezes and won't do anything. This happens every week once or twice, but tonight it's happened about 5 times in a row.

[honest nacelle]

of all the matches i've had today and the screenshots i've seen in here ... that's a match I would've taken. I'm 48 as well. Fighting 54's all day today. It makes no sense.

[ivory schooner]

the vast majority of ours have just resulted in crashes and hangs.

is anyone else losing officers entirely from their rosters too after a match?

[little panther]

How can anyone do the arena with match ups like this when one 70 has more power than all 3 on the other side. These are ridiculous, I like them but with fewer and fewer players doing them the matches are more lopsided than before. Need a forfeit button so it doesn't take forever for a sure loss. I give up doing them, before I could at least win some and get enough fpr a weeks worth of pulls but now it's just ridiculous

[lime pivot]

Based on what (I think Rev's video) said about Arenas was only like 5000 folks actually participated last week... this might be why, its just not enjoyable and nigh impossible to level up Terran facs since each arena drops 400 loot and minimum daily refine is 300...

Arena's need a MAJOR rework because its now literally pay to win and this only running for a few hours and no other way to earn Terran rep just sucks.

[tawny cradle]

I "played" arena tonight for the first time in about 5 months. I have had a conflict nearly every single week on Mondays between the entire Arena window, so even when I did do it, I got in maybe 3 matches and either had to drive or go to sleep. Tonight, our team just logged in and sat there and accepted the loss. You can't fight unless you have all the right gear, and I am not spending on gear just so I can get run over by someone 4 ops higher than me. Meh.

[lime pivot]

Yeah this is just depressing....

[winged wedge]

This is a new one… game can’t load me into the Arena match. I’m stuck on this screen til the match ends. Notice the “Match has begun! Deploy 2 Ships to the Arena System” notice on the stuck loading screen? Afterwards, when I can login in, I gain 400 Terran credits, and lost Arena rep for a game I couldn’t join. Happened twice in a row, I stopped trying so as to not ruin other people’s matches. Sorry for the zero participation teammates. 🤷‍♂️

[wicked osprey]

Yeah great job Scopely...it's working PEFECTLY

How is this a good matchup????? Fix it!

[elfin pivot]

@candid vine So I had miners on nodes just after daily reset, then joined an arena battle. When I was pulled into the arena, I only received daily mining rewards for 1 miner not all. Unfortunately it was not the miner that was sitting on a G6 Ore node. I lost 59k+ g6 ore

[autumn sparrow]

Yeah, played 5 more matches after this one and they ended up being like yours. Was playing an ops 55 with a 1.1bn Crozier at 1 point. I did manage to win 1 though. In total 8 loses, 1 win, only 1 of the loses was close, the rest we got stomped by a single player from the opposition…..

[white sorrel]

Here's hoping that the only people that engaged were the super spenders who had to fight each other finally. Once they realize they have an actual fight, they'll do what they always do and quit.

[rugged willow]

what is the point of the Arena? As it is I was put up against players with ships over 1.5 B. everyone in the squad was destroyed before we could hit anything. Still and unplayable part of the game and no reputation. why cant reputation be awarded another way?

[spice fjord]

To let whales feel special

[deft oak]

I haven't participated in Arenas for several weeks now. The main issue i had previously was being constantly mis-matched against superwhales and my ranking would just tank each week. Rather than risk going backwards in ranking again, I just stay put and don't partake in events. It's quite sad really

[inland cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/score-negative-gif-10950147

• Matchhmaking is stupid
• Speed cap is stupid
• Rewards are low
• time needed is high
• Many bugs and glitches happen

overall poorly implemented and worsened rather than improved

[sick coral]

And those are the good points. We won’t get into the bad points……

[velvet hill]

love arenas

[quasi sable]

So just had a crazy idea to try and breath some life back into arenas.
Its something scopley might not want to do due to their limitations, but here goes....
Give players the option of doing PvP arenas or...
Full PvE competition.
1 v 1 - matched by number of docks they have.
10min timer.
NO repairs - once dead that dock is unavailable.
Player wins by number of kills they managed.
Strictly no PvP.
Winners get Terran rep and arenas points and credits, loser gets 25% the winners loot.

Now monetary side is that players will want to upgrade ships and/or officers.

Special arena event side could be realta pve combat where they battle until timer runs out, so weak hostiles.
Kumari clearance event - how many Kumari can you kill in 3 mins?
Hold the line - wave defence where 2 players from different servers fight side by side to protect central building.
Clear the area - 2 players go head to head to clear a system of hundreds of hostiles with a single ship each.

These just couple ideas I thought of while typing.

[steel dirge]

Arenas are pvp, thats kinda the whole idea of them

if you wanna do waves go do waves, not ruin arena in the process

[quasi sable]

And who ever said arenas are fighting? Arenas are competitions.
As for the waves, I can't do waves with players from over servers unless it's incursions. And even then it's just one other server for a 24hr period.
By making arenas purely pvp, means the game is leaving thousands of players out of some content.
Giving players a choice of either pvp or pve arenas means more players par taking

[steel dirge]

Arenas is exactly giving the players a choice of pvp or pve. Do or don't do.

[tawdry bolt]

Just give Arena a shipyard cap, ITS actually useless! And isn't funny If u only win against low pvpler

[split sentinel]

You should really give everyone a free Fleet Preset. They're literally what I've been asking for for a while for Arena. I enjoy the Arena, but the amount of prep time it takes to get ready for them has deterred me from playing them for weeks (I have health issues that involve debilitating levels of fatigue), and on days I've been playing Arena I've been deterred from participating in other things between matches for the same reason. Everyone being able to switch to their Arena setup whenever they feel like joining one, on the fly, and being able to go back to their regular setup when they are done, would likely encourage people to play it more.

[tall bobcat]

awesome in arena and the game WILL not let me load in

WTH this is me.. my team has been murdered because of this

[cyan void]

thats just wrong. arenas is supposed to be pvp not pve, even if you're not a pvp player u can be a support player. if there are thousands of people that dont want to join thats probably their problem at that point

[valid junco]

Just delete it and call it a day

[cyan void]

i wanna know the numbers for this week and last week lol

[valid junco]

My guess on a decline 📉

[cyan void]

yea thats my thoughts too but has it hit 3k players or not lol

[short crater]

Guys can you at least fix this whete i have to restart the game thanks the lag andnthen you recall my ships?

[quasi sable]

Please tell me where in the definition of Arenas does it state it's specifically for fighting?
Every definition I've come across says it's for entertainment. Sorry wheres the entertainment watching your rear ends being handed to you everytime because your not strong enough. It might be entertaining to players who can kill other players, and yes being able to punch up is great experience, I'm not denying that. But there are players who don't focus on pvp, but they are being stopped from getting stuff from the Terran faction store because they won't participate in what is effectively a slaughter to them. Why should I be restricted to work on my pvp officers because I won't participate in arenas? Why should I not have the option to work on the favours in that faction store so I can eventually do pvp arenas and actually stand a chance.
And as for being a "Support" player, come on, their the ones with the biggest bullseye on their hull.
What I'm suggesting is that players be given the option. A pvp option with different activities.
And a PvE option with different activities.
Keep the faction store the same, because then players can work on their pvp officers, and then may want to give pvp side ago at some point.

If you want to keep the encouragement for pvp side, make sure the rewards for pvp are 3 times higher than a PvE version.

There ways around making arenas better for all, pvp and pve.
Let's not dismiss something because you don't like the idea.
I know loads of players who love to to pvp arenas but aren't strong enough and are constantly having their rear ends handed to them, ruining their enjoyment

[raw remnant]

post about release of arenas headline: "Arena Combat: Star Trek Fleet Command’s New PvP Experience". No word "entertainment" mentioned on the post

[valid junco]

With such low participation do you think they will use resources on dead content

[short crater]

Cant evrn join arena xD

[raw remnant]

yeah that happens often, need to restart the game

[cyan void]

granted its precisely why theyve been neglecting this that many ppl dont participate

[cyan void]

thats been there since last week. rlly annoying since when i restart and i didnt take any dmg basically and still need to wait 2 mins for repairs(i misclicked 😂 )

[sharp axle]

Also the in-game description...

[quasi sable]

Yes it is in the description, but that can't be changed if an addition is added.

It not surprising so many coming out against my suggestion, but not one person has suggested an alternative to improve arenas and get more players involved. Which is a shame considering the numbers par taking in arenas are falling.

[sharp axle]

I despise arenas, I was replying to the question you asked:

Please tell me where in the definition of Arenas does it state it's specifically for fighting?
Every definition I've come across says it's for entertainment.

[quasi sable]

Ah ok, then I apologise. I misinterpreted what you were saying.
Yes game description does same pvp, but in general use the term arenas means to entertain

[sharp axle]

LOL, expecting Scopely to stick to official dictionary definitions is mistake number one 😂

[quasi sable]

So true lol

[river temple]

We have the squad, it starts the match but my game doesn't want to join the game!! It tells me that I have to check my internet but I have fiber and everything works fine except on STFC arena. Impossible to arena in my PC, only on my phone...

[clever monolith]

56 56 53 v 61 61 64 great match making

[cursive bridge]

3 platinum players but still a very tiny chance.

[slender stone]

We need some indicator to show when the leader of a squad is inactive. 99% of squads i get shown have inactive leaders but you dont know until you join and nothing whatsoever happens.

[cursive bridge]

Or just disband squads automatically after a certain time if the leader is inactive.

[cursive bridge]

The OPS 48 wasn't even good. But he had a 200m ship that none of us could do anything about, Mantis sting and Cerritos boost included.

[mossy granite]

Well, i keep repeating myself week after week: in which parallel universum is this a fair match?

[agile forum]

much more doable than this one

[agile forum]

but it still can improve 😄

[vivid sedge]

Matchmaking gets worse every single week.

When will you lean than bad Matchmaking means more players avoid it, meaning even worse Matchmaking?

Then you've got a pointless gamemode than noone uses...

[rocky crypt]

How can we even play if ships get stuck in warp. Restarted the game 3 times already and they still brick. <@&509690795536941056>

[proud torrent]

really have a hard time to bother doing them at all. almost every round looks like this for weeks now.

i mean, how is this makes any sense whatsoever?

[strong mortar]

180 bill > 13bill ....

[candid charm]

So I have tried for 2 weeks now to start doing arenas again. But I have not been won yet and my score is dwindling 😆.. going to stop again now the pairing suck and I suspect there is no place for a f2p player in arenas

I’m going to the pub instead

[agile forum]

@noble helm is this you? 😄

[noble helm]

🤣 Sure is

Love it

[agile forum]

that krencha was murder

gotta get me one of those

[noble helm]

I would wreck his krencha at same tier 🙁

i mean i deleted his cube xD

[rocky crypt]

Repair time of 7hours while in arena's??

[sweet garnet]

Great matchmaking...

[white sorrel]

So how goes this garbage event today?

[broken lark]

Arenas is broken. A useless event that only breeds anger and despondency. The matches are ridiculous. There’s always one overpowered player that dictates the outcome. The highest level player on each team should be equal. It’s busted and crap.

[pastel holly]

and I though mine was bad, 41/45s against 49s

based on the screenshots and mine, the pairing is really lopsided

[safe frost]

For some weird reason matchmaking was actually fair this week. We did get a lot of people with way stronger ships, but it was always a "fair" fight due to tactics. Lag did hit hard in a few of those and our carry got stuck in warp a few times.

[pastel holly]

mid 40s against 54/55s this second time around... hmm not so much

[minor ice]

It's Monday, so here we go again.

Reiterating this request because it's still just as relevant as ever.
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The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven (or every eight days, if you can't stomach the idea of making something slightly more convenient when you could make it slightly less so 🙄).

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on Monday evenings. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.

And if you absolutely must run it on the same day each week, don't pick the same day as the only other weekly event that gets massively penalized for trying to participate in both 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
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3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or eventually there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but would still like to see it accessible for everyone

[rocky verge]

hey <@&509690795536941056> -

arenas is absolutely unplayable.

lag issues persist.

examples from today:

1. GS beams take 2-3 clicks before firing.
2. solo armada completes without awarding rewards.
3. ships wont launch to enter arena without reboot.

[lyric nacelle]

Why don't you guys try regulating the opponents for the power and also go off of how much they spend....sure might help make the F2P people actually like arena's

[foggy yacht]

Still having to restart the game when entering and exiting matches.

[hazy basin]

You really need a penalty for people who start a room and do not click ready

[rich cove]

Arenas still suck and will continue suck. Just give everyone the rewards and ditch arenas.

[hazy basin]

Or make it that the room starter is always ready

It feels like you have bots in Arenas to make them seem active