💣-arena-feedback

[split valve]

awesome battle

[civic helm]

What the he.ll is going on with match making?

[wide roost]

Did you win? /S I "love" the concept of arena, but matchmaking like this has kept me away from it

[storm vine]

I can count the number of acceptable matches on one hand.
All the others were predominantly decided by a single player who has access to a higher ship class.
So this no longer has anything to do with “skill”, but with a lottery.
And as long as the matches are not limited to OPS who have access to the same ship class, unfortunately nothing will change.

[white sorrel]

There's a very limited amount of people engaging in the content, so at some point you're just going to end up with what's there. I don't believe it's any more complicated than that at this point.

So your solution is to be condescending to the players: 1) insinuating they don't know how to form a team 2) telling them their ships officers and research aren't good enough 3) saying they need better strategy but scopely took away speed, shrunk the amount of players, all but taking any strategy away that might help a group have a fighting chance against a complete mismatch.

All the while ducking any responsibility for creating a completely hashed up mechanic. One that actually worked best out of the gate and progressively got worse. Thanks candle.

[idle kindle]

I will keep it short and sweet….. not done arenas for a while because it sucked. It still sucks. Sort the matchmaking.

[neon heart]

There is absolutely no skill in the game that can work in someone's favour when they come up against a 15b ship, let alone a 75b with 2b ships. To pretend otherwise is crazy, and this is why people get annoyed with scopely for all the "fixes" to make them.

Less and less people play arenas because digging through a pile of dung is more entertaining than whatever scopely call matchmaking in arenas. I'd call it trash but honestly trash is far more useful than the matches. So many have made suggestions on how to possibly improve arenas, but scopely don't care about arenas, havent cared since they brought them out, and based on recent events why would they bother with arenas?

[idle kindle]

At least just match the team leaders ops levels. So if a 55 starts and the max you can have on that team is a 59, don’t do it so the other team can have 60+

[modest estuary]

Why is this channel still existing? Obvs $copely does NOT listen to arena feedback: lag and bugs getting worse each week. Thanks to these, many players don‘t participate anymore, making matchmaking utterly ridiculous 😡

[rugged otter]

Just close the gates to this, it annoyes to many people - or just plan further server merges

even smaller accounts face maxed ships with strike teams in almost every match

Maybe that's why there are limited amount of people playing this

And just in time being demoted again 🥳

[white sorrel]

That's just the thing, I don't mind losing at all. A little fairness would be great, but making the losses so damn penal.... Just take this sting out of a loss and maybe more people would engage? I don't know that seems like an easy fix.

But clearly it doesn't seem like anybody actually wants to fix it.

[sudden phoenix]

Firstly, I'm not scopely, and have no part in how the feature was created or has evolved into. I have no responsibility there at all.

No, I've never made those claims. By the point in the convo you're replying to, it was asserted that skill has only a minor impact on rank. My point was that pvp skill was never meant to be such a narrow definition as "mechanics for advantage (dodge, speed, crews)," and calling other factors as something other than skill, like an accident. Their last 3 bulleted points were all intended to be included in the definition.

In this game, pvp skill can be trained or it can be bought. That's probably going to rankle some, but it's part of the factor that influences rank. And rank, as we've established earlier, is an important part in matchmaking.

[gray scroll]

the best change to make would be to remove loss of rank 🤷‍♂️ i have zero expectations of such a thing happening considering arenas are dying off... i got the same teams several times in a row and it sucked cause i can't do anything against max g6 epics. i only play for the premium dust pulls at this point and even then my interest is pretty gone

[white sorrel]

So what exactly is your responsibility?

[sage brook]

Red nicks, aka moderators, watch forum and remove posts that violate rules, posts made by bots, spam... and answer player questions about game.

They are not Scopely employees

[white sorrel]

Appreciate that. I wasn't quite sure of the delineation.

[sturdy pendant]

that should not be a match...

[modest estuary]

8 arenas and I was largest player ops62 in our team, and facing 5 times an ops66 or higher. For such a permanent incompetence in quality I’d get fired in my job!

[rugged otter]

Thats why stopped playing the Arena with my main account and stopped spending 2 months ago. Somehow the game is more fun with my smaller f2p account.

[keen sigil]

No ship docks, game constantly crashing

[cursive knoll]

Nothing quite as fun as ending your arena runs further from the next rank than you started, really motivating....

[rugged otter]

You kept your Rank, thats a quite good session

[cursive knoll]

not really, I was at 1775 points from gold 1 which was "rank doesn't matter, I got all the favours I want" and now I'm 2375 points from gold 1

[rotund kayak]

There is no skill in PvP, it's whoever has the biggest wallet. If you want PvP events to work you need to sort out the massive imbalances or improve match making. It's really as simple as that.

[hasty arrow]

the night started off with a horrible matchup that should of never happened.

[granite bobcat]

Is the speed limit still in effect? We have a lot of ships that should be at max speed getting run down by ships at the same (or sometimes lower) speed.

[rocky crypt]

Speed limit is still live, annoyingly.

[wide leaf]

Absolutely 😁

[hasty arrow]

second horrid matchmaking tonight

[plain aurora]

Feedback:
Matchmaking was ok (opener 53, 2x 55) nothing higher then 57...
Stability: i restart rvery 2 games but i got wrong ship locations, lags jumps, slow motion etc... <@&509690795536941056> can you find out that scoplay has payed his phone bill? or are the small men in the server gets enougth food to feed the coal engine?
its hard enougth to play with a player that havnt play arena before agsinst good teams with spped crews... i dont need hardware and conection problems then...

[thorn thicket]

Sorry. There are far less teams in the first couple hours.

[spring dawn]

What is this matchmaking?

[astral skiff]

Is there still a plan to FIX arenas?? The impulse cap was not a fix.... also look into adjusting the schedule. The Band Aids you applied should not be permanent.

[digital geyser]

Ops 70, really?

[shy linden]

More so than the bad matchmaking, more so than the ranking loss on impossible matches, more so than the audio issues when transferring to the arena instance, having to wait 5+ minutes to lose is going to make me stop playing arenas. Give us a concede button already.

[keen sigil]

they wont do a cencede button, ppl will just do that over and over til they have the emblems they need for the week

and that doesnt drive "rage spend"

[shy linden]

people can already just afk to their weekly spend if they don't care about ranking, that's a bad reason to not give us a necessary feature

[keen sigil]

nawww, its not the same. screen time is also a metric that is done. if you do that in 5min for the week, vs, say 90min suffering through---it lowers that metric

gotta think of it like a business, since it is

[shy linden]

making your players stare at a screen, unable to do anything for 10 minutes, is a great way to drive players away

[keen sigil]

not sayingg its right or wrong, just giving a different view

[shy linden]

and this is arena feedback, not arena debate

[keen sigil]

then continue screaming into the void and not be heard

lol

have a great night

[signal temple]

I have been trying to get from gold 2 to 4 the past three weeks and can't track any of the ships. It's anyone else getting attacked by ships half way across the system?

[keen sigil]

careful, its arena feedback, not arena chatter

dont ask questions or engage in conversation

🤣

[shy linden]

he's actually giving feedback about the lag, not commenting on other's feedback like some sort of gatekeeper

[keen sigil]

oh yes, i surely acted like a gatekeeper

im sorry your ability to take in different views is limited and you are so narrow mindeded in your thinking. i feel sorry for you

[signal temple]

Please fix your ship tracking it is garbage, ships are attacking me from across the system 🙄

[low otter]

arena performance is 100% awful right now

unplayable. ships don't track. armadas have 8 second delays before starting. getting hit from half a screen away. desync on everything. tell a ship to go left and it goes right.

[shy linden]

I'm sorry that you have to resort to personal attacks when someone tells you that you are using the wrong channel

[keen sigil]

didnt see a moderator state that, just you

[wicked tulip]

Three hours in, have seen two public squads period in my ops range and zero alliance. If scopely doesn’t do something to cater this game type to casual players soon, it will die off. Hint: reduce rank penalty for losses. <@&509690795536941056>

Matchmaking will never work until there is an ample player pool for the logic to line up against. Appeal the loop to more players and it will be better for everyone….

[wanton rune]

How did this 63 get into our matchmaking queue?

[knotty eagle]

Public squad leaders who DON'T READY UP are the WORST! And we can't communicate!!!

[wanton rune]

Yup, I'm about to lose rank because we got matched up with a player twice my power, with ships 3x my biggest ship's power. Now I'm gonna lose rank because of a bad match

[wicked tulip]

Your experience is mirrored by far too many of the people trying arenas.

[digital geyser]

The rank part is the worst. I had to get carried to get that G6 discount. Now I’m content sticking to Gold. The penalty past Gold 2 for losing a match is ridiculous.

[wanton rune]

No doubt. Just making sure to get my voice in here too for improvement

[wanton rune]

Derp 🤷🏼‍♂️

[thorn thicket]

Im ops 53 had a 49 host and we got matched with a 56 and still won. So it's never known till you play.

[tawny crag]

That happened. No one over 50 against 3 players over 50 : 50, 53, 57 (bug with the third one) Impossible to win

[grim oracle]

What are we supposed to do with this?

[thorn thicket]

Use buffs and mantis and try to win.

[grim oracle]

Very helpful against a 123B ship.

[solemn kelp]

i did some basic math on actually tiering up officers in the terran store both in time and credits and it makes me want to cry

Is 825 uncommon terran credits the highest amount you can get? so 2475 a day?

[thorn thicket]

Sorry. Ill blow up a bunch of their alliance mates for ya 😁

[uneven wing]

can do x1.5 with the prime

[uneven wing]

you hope that they're a terrible 70. but 100b+ is probably gonna win on size alone, yeah, so it sounds like that didn't happen

[solemn kelp]

oof, yeah just not enough credits to upgrade officers and everything else.

[uneven wing]

i was on 2-3x dust a day most days until they ran out

finally working on officers, and forget uc favors

[solemn kelp]

i got my g6 innovative during the credit spend event and now started looking where to start putting my uc credits. but the time table seems LONG term just like the section 31 pvp officers in the wave store.

[uneven wing]

premium dust hands down

s31 rares are also solid in the waves store; incidentally if there's more in this it's probably better in #🤝-help-each-other or similar

[cyan void]

do they have different bugs for different servers? i didnt get any of the bugs listed in the arenas yall have today when i played yesterday

[pale vale]

Good job scopely Sick a$$ matchmaking here

[solemn kelp]

my arena feedback is that the pvp store is too expensive

[cold niche]

Everything we’ve complained about since the beginning is still wrong. On the bright side we had a lame cartoon to turn off

[normal ledge]

Questions for you.
How does scopely match teams in arena?
Only the two factors you mention avg ops and rank?

[white sorrel]

Candle would tell you that you are not setting up your teams properly.

[balmy jetty]

Arena is broken and needs to be stopped. Ships wander around randomly to areas that were not selected and won’t engage in combat, game freezes up sometimes for a minute or more, matchmaking is atrocious, and pvp in this game is completely unbalanced.

[white sorrel]

<@&509690795536941056> why can't this mechanic get the fixes it needs? Are the coders for this company that bad?

[limber rapids]

Arenas are doing just great tonight. Ships flying nowhere, having to reload the game and get a game download, get stuck in the "searching for match" queue and having to restart to see I was actually in an arena. Doing a great job there Scopely!

[normal ledge]

Impulse cap ‘fixed’ the lag mate 😜
Nothing wrong with matchmaking according to some 😉
PvP being unbalanced well that applies to outside of arena too really.
A way to not make it not so impactful in arena might be to restrict what ships allowed into arena. For example don’t let g6 epics into an arena when the team u match against has one or more players that have no access to them. Sure wont fix all but gives more of a chance to stand up to them vs 0 chance otherwise.
Or how about provide temporary buffs to the disadvantaged team?

[cyan void]

if on my team the max ship we got is a g5 uncommon, i shouldnt need to go against a g5 rare. yes there are times i can kill the g5 rares but if both teams max buffs its just not gonna be possible

[hollow steeple]

That's all fine but skill cant overcome a ship being frozen in battle for a minute after killing someone. The mode stinks as does the server capability.

[proven trout]

Matchmaking is still ridiculous, here was my last Matchup
1,087,531,600 Ops 54, 57 and 60
725,690,900 ops 53, 55 and 56

[tepid osprey]

Once again your Gloriously Imperfect Imbecility of matchmaking for the Arena is REPULSIVELY DISGUSTING.

[sudden phoenix]

Those are the two factors I know of. I suspect there's a 3rd because that's how I'd do it: time spent in queue. I'd certainly widen the search when that increases in length.

[thorn thicket]

Could complain given the comments I've been reading here... though we didn't lose.

[proven trout]

The solution is thus....
1 - Matches start by matching starter Op to Starter Op
2 - Then Power level is factored in to ensure that the arena is about player skill not who bought the most FT tech and PvP primes
3 - Reduce the ops gaps to two ops and dont allow ops an entire Glevel above be involved.

4 - Include FT in your power levels

you do that we will have fair matches that are totally dependent on player skill and strategy

[supple bone]

All I have done this last match is reload, disconnect, and reload. I got my ships in once and lost internet again, all the while my YouTube music is running and not disconnecting like Scopely.???? Get better Servers and Internet, please.

Never stood a chance get back and the fight is over

[surreal oak]

Power level doesn’t include PvP metrics, so that’s a flawed matchmaking criteria also - it’s mostly based on station turret level

[lilac lichen]

your opponents are not highly ranked, I surmise ( but could be wrong ) that you have bought into the pvp FT/CT/Primes as is true about many plat rank players. A full pvp load out can easily punch up against a "normal" player ( working as intended ).

[uneven wing]

anecdotally, when I'm matched up a ship grade my opponents are usually bad for their level, same ships usually pretty good, and down a ship grade usually terrifying for their ship grade

[umbral rock]

being in arena is so stupid and meaningless that you are an ops level 53 and you are paired with ops 60+.

[thorn thicket]

Free primes from AT store and other events along with 1 ft purchase and a lucky ct pull. It's just camping and slow leveling to build a strong account. If I could stomach to buy all the fun stuff I would but there are better hobbies to splurge cash towards.

[lilac lichen]

Still waiting on my “lucky” CT pull 🤣 . Looks like a few FTs hitting new augment store with arc.

[thorn thicket]

Full cannon pull around day 5 of revenant refinery. I went out and bought a lottery ticket afterwards. Unfortunately luck only struck once.

[inland cloud]

I hope so because that means with fewer people playing, arena matches get more and more unbalanced (wider search) and this hopefully leads to a faster collapse and forces enhancements.

[golden mortar]

I dont see how these are so bad. Sometimes you gotta be able to punch up a bit.

[silver halo]

If Fortnite would show players where they are not it would be unplayable. Until we actually can rely on ships being where we see them this can never be a pvp game..

[keen hazel]

I'm not saying matchmaking isn't terrible and couldn't be improved but, If you want to win arenas you gotta have a better ops spread. Game the system dont let it game you.

until they fix it at least.

IF

[weak portal]

Any latest promo code here

[lime pivot]

My single biggest complaint is that I’m on the West Coast US (UTC -8) and Arenas start at 1pm (my time) and only run a few hours on a Monday so I miss them constantly due to work/life so I’m totally unable to do a thing for Terran faction. It’s insane that you don’t run it for 24 hours like any other daily event

[toxic fjord]

Shortly after daily reset, there were problems. I've restarted, not starting stalls at 66 or 70%, with a "retry" like when tere is maintenance. Is aanyone elsse seeing this?

[cyan void]

against a rare? yea maybe, against a epic? no way

[white sorrel]

There are so many good ideas here, but none of them get implemented. Why is that?

[toxic fjord]

running arenas for 24 hours would open the possibility of teams for all three regions competing.

[runic isle]

Now that the arena is a functional loop, can we get a moving day? Maybe keep Monday as is (for those who've changed their life schedules to play the game when you decided) and add a second day that has a 8 day cycle, so the rest of us can occasionally play. I understand we can't have arenas open all the time or run every day because there wouldn't be any matching. Just would like to see a variety of days running if we can.

[cyan void]

i dont think thats a great idea 🤣

[stone arrow]

Matchmaking is a nighmare~
A 100% match loss from first second 😂😂😂

[cyan void]

you're still doing arenas? best of luck 😅

[stone arrow]

If you want something from Terra.Fac. you need to do arena or you have to do it with cash. I try my luck with arena😅😅😂😂

[solemn kelp]

so how many are going to buy khan? i feel like he will dominate arena. the iso damage boosts he gives is pretty gnarly

[cyan void]

about 20 ppl that i have seen on the leaderboard got khan i think

a 70 in my alliance killed the biggest 70 on my server with khan. 1 hull for my whale and 6 of his ships

but note that his khan is almost maxed 🤣

[uneven wing]

Khan will be like most other p2w mechanics.
if all else is equal he'll be noticeable.
all else is rarely equal.

arena will be more tilted towards spenders for a month or two, then glavin, slipstream, Tantalus, and even fc Khan start going f2p and that'll all be quite large

[glacial junco]

Except during that time Khan v2.0 will be released and render all of those things obsolete and irrelevant.

[uneven wing]

the most recent powerful PVP thing released lately without sourcing by the next month was omega crit floor. it seems like they're mostly pivoting away from the "power is pay only for at least most of a year" model towards something more like"buying gets you ahead a month or two"
except for primes, which are now on a long timeframe still but actually getting f2p'd lately & generally less impactful than most of the rest of what gets sold

[cyan void]

i got crit floor using the partcles 🤔

[sudden phoenix]

Different one, probably.

[uneven wing]

mirror crit floor is paid only. combat tree crit floor is free, yes.

[fallow knot]

Ok I finally got enough splices to trade in and the trade crashed - took my splice and didn't give me wrath coin - where do I complain at?

[rustic ermine]

Just scream into your fist. You’ll get more luck from that.

[fallow knot]

already did that - didn't help

[acoustic ruin]

Just repeat till you forget how bad scopely is

[cyan void]

yell at support for about 5 days straight and maybe you'll get somewhere 😅

[harsh lily]

Scopley and the game

[white sorrel]

I can only imagine what a dumpster fire this is going to become Monday

[cyan void]

cooldown so bad we talking in arena chat

[grave badge]

Congrats Scopely, arenas aren't the worst thing in the game anymore

[cyan void]

amazing aint it, i thought aarenas will always be the worst 😂

[fallow knot]

Someone needs to remind Scopely that they're not freaking Apple releasing crap too soon and full of bugs so they have to create a new version to replace that one

[winter mulch]

Only because they didn't run today. If they had been running they would still have been worse

[flint cloud]

I really am looking forward to how bad game play lag will be

[plush aurora]

i hate it dont like it dont engage as it affects my mining event

[cyan void]

love it when i face a t9 1.4b sanctus ops 56. where in the world did your money come from man

also heres an idea. winnner of the match doesnt face loser for at least 2 rounds 🙄

[short crater]

Arenas getting worse and worse hit the target then didnt saw anything happening except ships fighting each other but at the same time not fighting each other

[cyan void]

pretty sure there isnt any 'weight' on us... theyve got the higher ranks and higher ops🤣 🤣 🤣

also there barely is any players playing arenas now, mostly getting the same matchups over and over 🤔

[valid junco]

Wonder why

[cyan void]

that's a great question!🤣🤣

[viral knot]

i have trouble getting into the arena, people start but don't go ready

[cyan void]

some people go afk after creating a squad so they dont ready up

those squads should be removed imo

[alpine orbit]

decided to try arena since I'm fresh 70 ops and have g6 epic and t16 cube... what a mistake, first match I get matched with a team that's all 70 ops.... how does that seem fair against a team that's 70/66/64? how does that even work?

[fair creek]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[harsh lily]

It starts

[young tiger]

Just put arenas out its misery, pretty much ignored by all now

[vernal steppe]

another. how possible ?

luckily, only 1 player sent 1 Ent D ship. and didn't hit hostile.
we G4 didn't send any ship.
don't know why they did that, i think they want a fair game.
how can Epic G4 fight Rare - Epic G5? 😂

time left 4 minutes, and the system automatically canceled the arena because there were no points: 0 vs 0

[alpine orbit]

<@&509690795536941056> can we just remove negative rep from loses? That small change would make so many more people play arenas

otherwise, I'm officially declaring Arena dead content and just giving up playing entirely. Thought it would be different at 70 ops, but even at 70 ops you just match me with people with max g6 epics.

[tame stump]

???

[cyan void]

uhm actually 🤓☝🏻 your team has higher rank so it gives more "weight" so you get a higher chance of pairing against people with higher ops than U since the game thinks you've got more skill🤓☝🏻

[marsh drift]

Ah.. such a silly game 😂

[cyan void]

one of the mods said this like 2-3 weeks ago

then again I've got a match I posted above that didn't have any "weight" and we still got bad matching🤣🤣

[cyan void]

same for you😅

[tame stump]

I might have more skill, but that will not compensate ships with double the power

[thorn thicket]

Wonder how many people who bought fc khan I can beat today

[inland cloud]

Rank is their #1 Excuse for bad matchmaking. To me it looks like some moderators were instructed to defend Arenas with dubious arguments. For me it's dead content

[alpine orbit]

all they need to do is remove negative rep from losses, problem immediately solved

nobody will care then

@muted badger can you please just plead with the powers that be to remove rep loss from arena losses? I guarantee this one change would make people engage with it, the only thing making me not want to bother with it is knowing that whales will constantly beat me down and I'll gradually lose rank.

already dropped a rank level today from trying it again after weeks of not participating because of the potential to drop rank

[cursive knoll]

I'm giving it a shot as I'd like to reach gold 1 but as others have said rep loss needs to go

Nothing as fun as losing progress just like Jonny said

[turbid flicker]

Arenas suck! Either the starter is afk or the pairing is so bad and the power difference is ridiculous.

[cyan void]

just throw a ton of buffs on your strongest ship and pray they got bad research

thats what i did for arenas today

but then again if your strongest is 50mil and theirs is almost triple the power then uh 🤣

[cyan void]

idk i play it cuz its funny

i get annoyed but i still find match making funny

[tame stump]

Is this a game or a religion, that you suggest I shall pray 😉

[cyan void]

no point wasting prayers on this game

just saying but pretty sure you praying for some lottery ticket has better odds than praying for the devs to fix something asap 😅

and not a lot of ppl play arenas either so doesnt seem to be a lot of people screaming to change arenas. not as much as freedti or gaila

so i doubt there'll be changes anytime soon

ill continue playing it just cause i find it really funny but thats just me

[modest estuary]

The disgrace continues… don‘t these programmers have any sense of pride in the quality of their work???

[cyan void]

probably arena got thrown to the side until arena 2.0

no response regarding arenas at all

[modest estuary]

Dev department

[cursive knoll]

It's because of an ever shrinking arena player pool

[modest estuary]

I know, but cannot accept that as the excuse. Some failsafe can‘t be too difficult to implement. Such matchmaking makes nearly everyone stop. 🤷🏻

[cyan void]

true tbh. fewer and fewer playuers are playing arena

but counter arguement. fewer and fewer people play arenas because of all the bad encounters they had with it

matchmaking, lag, bugs etc

and tbh with todays economy in credits, i doubt you actually really need the bp efficiencies, maybe only g3 or g4 but once u get nsea credit flow is so easy efficiencies is just the cherry on the cake

[robust bobcat]

How is this fair and how can my ship with a higher impulse speed (before any arena throttling) be out run by the opposition 😡

The ops level average or power average or anything doesn’t add up, I assume one of my team (or me) have upset scopley somehow and this is just punishment <@&509690795536941056>

[cyan void]

laggggggg

[robust bobcat]

I have to assume that this page is no longer monitored as scopes believe Arenas is working perfectly

[rocky crypt]

Private chat keeps breaking up when changing to and from arena's!

[fast patio]

What the hell? How is that fair

[sand cargo]

💩

[cyan bear]

Utter rubbish lol

[craggy wraith]

Pretty much, instead they did this mess of an arch and added more issues 😂

[rugged otter]

What is the grater mess, arena or wok? I vote for Arena 😝

[frail robin]

what an awfull session tonight... didn't do arenas for a long time, but mew so painful with the lags

[craggy wraith]

Don’t worry they are doing maintenance tomorrow so you won’t miss new lagging they have planned 😂

[gusty ember]

I just want to reiterate that even though the matchups are horrible, the punishment for losing (the amount of rank points you lose) is way way way too much, which makes the matchmaking even worse

[plain aurora]

Arena feedback:
1st. Matchmaking: was ok not the best but ok... 1 time unbeatable 2 times to low the other all ok... have done 12 matches
2nd. stability: restart after 2 matches needed 1 time stuck in warp visual shipposition was ok.

[frail robin]

don't forget the convenient and usual "technical" issues after maintenance ^^

[drowsy lynx]

Implement an option to give up the match, maybe as a vote between all 3 participants of a team. Matchmaking teams were 1 team has 4 ops more then you are useless and a waste of time in 95%

[past tartan]

not achievable

[cold niche]

How is a squad created by a 40 suppose to go up against players lvl 46-48. I’m currently getting destroyed for the third time by this typical scopely bs.

[patent orbit]

I usually don't complain about the match making, but come on, you can do better.

[trim crow]

Great match making...

[solemn kelp]

need to remove people who host but dont start

[chrome turret]

also, if you remove someone from your squad, put a 60s cooldown on them rejoining

[fallen lily]

My ships are spinning in circles 😂

[remote scarab]

End arenas already its terrible 🤣

[normal sandal]

Constructive opinion: anyone below ops70 should not be matched up against ops70. Period.

[strange elm]

Arenas is getting back to being unplayable. Unresponsive, elastic-banding, general lag, insta-jumping across systems... it's bad.

Plus the penalty for losing is too steep and is a massive barrier for progression, especially when the match-making/PvP is so unbalanced. If you're going to persist with this feature, equalize the playing field and cap ships at specific tiers/levels, which many other squad based games do. Y'all are eliminating the fun with so many squash matches happening over and over and over again.

[strange elm]

We also need some sort of nudge system for squad leaders. So tired of joining squads only to be left twiddling thumbs because they're not available to mark 'ready'

[short yarrow]

I do enjoy arenas, but this one I just dont understand

[random furnace]

EVERY time we enter Arenas we have to swap back to Alliance Chat.. this is REALLY annoying

[patent orbit]

This is why I don't often complain about match making, you don't know whats going to happen until pixels clash.

[cold niche]

Arena needs it’s own chat

[signal temple]

Matches are just too long, too justify the rewards. Personally only win 50% of the matches so rank is stagnant and with the limit frame and so many other things to do, I find this feature is losing it's luster.
The matches are 90% blowouts, win some lose some.
Not sure what you can do you match making but platinum players need to be in a league of their own instead of hammer lower gold teirs, silver and players players to keep their rank. What is the point of a ranking system if the top teir can beat up on the lowest teir.

[strange elm]

Utter frustrating mess that opponents can still trigger pvp within the last 10 seconds of an armada. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. Really aggravating and yet again just zero consistency.

More and more and more arenas are becoming increasingly less fun to play yet there's too many items in the Terran store to simply ignore.

Every week it's just more of a beat down with extremely limited fun

[crystal sleet]

There's need to be a mercy button to end them quicker. Considering how one-sided many of these matches are, it's such a time drain to have to sit and wait for next beat down. And the constant loss of ranking really makes it better to just stay away at this point.

[pastel skiff]

<@&509690795536941056> Found 2 bugs in Arena tonight. First, when lag is bad nothing scores: I have a screen capture of a match which is 6 minutes in with a 0-0 score displayed. THe actual score was about 250-200. Second, and this cost me a match, is that when you do a center armada it zeroes out your directives for them - not just taking 100 directives. I had farmed about 300 directives while a center armada was going and they all went away when I did a center. Since this cost me a Gold 1 match I am hoping I can get the credit to my reputation back and the 700 lost credits.

[cyan void]

the max directives u each hold for solo and group armada is 100 each no? no matter how much u farm for solo armadas max can hold is 100

[pastel skiff]

@cyan void seems an odd departure from the way directives normally work: I must have tens of thousands of most types of solo armada directives.I certainly will change how I play the arena given what you're saying.

[cyan void]

im talking about arena not about game in general. in arenas the max directives u can hold is 100, i think probably to stop people from farming for multiple armadas back to back even while they're waiting for their armada to end. in general gameplay u can hold 1000s of solo directives so yea i think the cap would be intended

just note the moment u hit start the middle armada you should immediately farm for the next small armada by hitting 1-4 traders depending on trader u hit + crew/ship you're using

[snow narwhal]

yet again requesting that starters who don't hit ready be removed from the queue as inactive

[whole oasis]

I had issues where I started armada and it said my ships weren't in..happened 3 times today ..not a fan

[safe frost]

Starting armadas with the cube (transwarp refit) from home doesn’t work sometimes. The extra time it takes to press the normal travel option means I often won’t reach the solo in time.

[silver halo]

Ok, i started a group armada and joined with my 2 ships. Moved them out to the edge and went back with both ships at ten seconds to start. Both ships got killed by the enemy a few seconds later.. HOW?

[inner plover]

1. You can only use one ship in a group armada.
2. If your rep isn't high enough for that factiom, you probably got killed by a chaser.

[silver halo]

It is Arena..

[inner plover]

ah sorry,

[silver halo]

If one ship gets killed the other one is taking its place

[inner plover]

Latency and ship location placement being buggy, few things could cause it

[silver halo]

Should not be possible to be killed inside the circle at 3-5 seconds before start.

[cyan void]

thats lag. they reached your ship b4 countdown but battle doesnt start and start only after game registers u got hit so u get attacked even during countdown. happened a few times for me

[silver halo]

That is why this is not a PvP game..

[golden mortar]

Had a pretty good run in arenas last night. It was fun. Out of 14 matches, three times I had my primary PvP ship get stuck in warp and was not usable until the match was over and the game reloads. Please look into that, it has become a weekly problem for me. Other then that, lag was ok and all the armadas respawed, which is nice.

[uneven wing]

FYI I usually just restart when the warp stick happens to unstick it; while not playing for ~30-60 seconds is bad, playing the rest of the match with only one ship & not my best is usually worse. I really hate that, though.

[golden mortar]

Ahhh thanks. I will try that next time. Last night I was too busy yelling at my ship to think of that. lol

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/gritar-llamar-llamada-call-enfadado-gif-16805851696835165834

[runic isle]

This is my problem with arenas. What I'd like to see is a simple matching adjustment:
Bronze matches with bronze and silver only
Silver matches with bronze, silver, and gold only
Gold matches with silver, gold, and platinum only
Platinum matches with gold and platinum only
If the matching takes longer than 3 min, start the match against no opponent

[cyan void]

nuh uh. i dont wanna be paired wiht platinum players as a gold player. most up there are soft or heavy spenders that have fts cts fcs primes and whatever nonsense

the other match ups r fine imo

[idle reef]

The lag so bad, you had to reset in the arena after you deployed. Your developers need to be sent to starbase 80.

[thorn thicket]

Aye. Same thing has been happening to me and against a equal good team, usually can't make up the first 2 minutes it takes to reboot and get in the fight.

[golden mortar]

For me it was never on the first warp in. All three happened after using a repair token……🤔

[silver mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/sand-summer-beach-relax-gif-18439176276112077454

[uneven wing]

same, but I get the error elsewhere when resending ships to the same system often, i.e. talios pvp when I was less good at it, and there's been a number of people hitting it grinding new augment. problem is, you can't send anywhere else during arena.

hm. now I'm wondering if sending my ships random places between matches would decrease the odds of it happening

[stuck chasm]

PLease implement a 1 vs 1 arena.

[uneven wing]

https://tenor.com/view/1v1-fight-me-challange-ninja-baby-gif-11620536296150158500

[cyan void]

yea trust me u do not want a 1v1 arena 😂

[shut gull]

We need 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 arenas.

And while we are at it some sort of capture the flag mechanic would be fun!

[cyan void]

ok hold on on the other arena ideas. they can't even get this one right it'll only get worse if they add another type of arena😅

[shut gull]

I reached the 65,000 ceiling a couple weeks ago and now need new goals!

[plain aurora]

reached too month ago my new goal is hold during ops lv jump...
and if the last premium dust is claimed i dont need it anymore

[uneven wing]

you still want to hold rank for officer shards

I suppose it's just uhura & crown that you want plat 1 for, but then again there's also the credit income

tho if you're on dust & out because mirror crew ain't all that in pvp and we're well past statistical significance on the artifact, understandable

[cyan void]

its quiet today 🤣

[native arrow]

if you wait roughly 3 hours 18 minutes I am sure it'll start getting busy up in here

[cyan void]

europe?

[short crater]

This is just joke as whole arena matchimaking

Either you will get something like this pr you get ops 70 with g6 epic where you csnt do also anything

[native arrow]

indeed

[cyan void]

oh yea, let's see 😂

[valid junco]

That’s why I don’t bother with this event

[tall bobcat]

@gritty cobalt wtf match making is this

[cyan void]

so i played arena, good matchups, nothing above 58 so far. but whats annoying was the amount of bugs there was in game 3. first bug, clicking on the ship did not show the "pop up" with location manage and recall buttons. 2. when i clicked locate sometimes, it brought me to the home system instead of where it presently is which is the battleground system, in the middle. 3. i can press the galaxy button but could not select any other system, even the system i was currently residing in. 4. after resetting, all my ships/docls disappeared meaning i had to reset again. 5. my ship would be at one place when i pressed locate but in reality its actually in another. the ship "doesnt move" but it is infact moving across the system, a visual glitch basically.

unfortunately trying to win the 3rd game made it so i couldnt screen record the bugs(we were winning and as the hypercarry of my team it is my duty to go back into the game ASAP and gun their carries). so yea thats basically all the bugs i found today

probably my favourite part was just throwing novas at the smaller players🤣

[fair creek]

soooo, its this time of the week again... 😄

https://tenor.com/view/tziros-og-wl-gif-25246632

[mild edge]

👌

Hate arena

[vagrant scaffold]

Close one😂

[candid fiber]

the background keeps freezing on in the arena squad selection area, requiring a client reboot

[alpine orbit]

soooooooo balanced, not just 3 70 ops, but 3 70 ops I can't possibly hope to beat....

[marsh drift]

Come on Jonny, i believe in you! 💪 😂

[cyan void]

its winnable guys, just blow them up 😂

[vivid sedge]

When will you sort matchmaking to prevent players being matched with a team where they are twice the size of every opposing member?

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/never-harrypotter-angry-fire-no-gif-4751988

[woven lake]

🤮

is this some kind of bad joke Scopely <@&509690795536941056> ????????
Shall i do now what? 22 games? for the next 5 or 6 hours to get my points?

[cyan void]

just remembered one more bug i had in arena just now. mantis sting timer was stuck at -23 and didnt reset back to a postiive number of back to 0 so it became useless for half the game till it died

[woven lake]

6,7b i am sure he just has a little ship, we all can beat easily, will be a fair and good fight 😂

[trim notch]

Game is too laggy today. I lost 4 matches due to commands taking more than 10 seconds to register

[mild edge]

We need an archive chest for arena

[robust bobcat]

Laaaaaggggggggggggggg

Losing ranks due to the 💩 game play, aim at hostile and suddenly I’m being attacked by a ship showing at the other side of the system! How is this still being allowed to happen, I just need to get to a point I can recruit mirror uhura after which I can sack this piece of garbage off forever,
I don’t suppose she will be sourcable from anywhere else 😡

[drowsy oak]

its a joke, not even makes sense to fight.

[drowsy oak]

its propably to complicated to match by power and not by level for Scopely

[reef compass]

Most insane Arena Lag ever...nothing is working

[robust bobcat]

<@&509690795536941056> how can my ship which has an impulse that exceeds the cap, so when capped should be going as fast as any other ship in the Arena get caught by the opposition ship, I assume he has paid more to scopley than me! The whole thing is rigged against the grinder, every week arena is a slap in the face to the player, the matching are shocking, the power dynamics are so skewed it’s almost funny and if I didn’t need to source Mirror Uhura I would join the masses of players that ignore this stillbirth

[short basin]

Why do you still run arenas? It is an absolute dumpster fire. Disable and overhaul it already.

[covert crag]

Arena's suck.
Create my own squad.. bunch of afk'ers turn up
Try to join another squad... just get booted.

Rework it to get rid of rewards for losing. Put up a weekly grind for so arena loot, make people kill worms or some other hideous grind. But score the event for arena wins as well, so those that do take part and win will auto finish the grind.

Unless you sort out the rewards structure no amount of tinkering with the mechanics will make it work.

[crystal talon]

Same here players twice as strong were matched against our group. Matching is a complete disaster. Also Ship levels also not working, a player with G4 ships (OPS 52) against G5 ships (OPS 54), you can imagine that we didn't have a glimpse of a chance. And overall it's all about which group has the strongest ship that kills others and then wait for them to win. Not funny. In maybe 1/20 runs you really have an equally strong group

[gritty cobalt]

Just to clarify, did you see an opponent ship exceeding the capped impulse speed in Arena?

[alpine orbit]

best buy some lottery tickets guys, a CM actually checked arena feedback.... 😮

[drowsy thistle]

How about this idea: start everyone with a score of 100xlevel (or some other factor) and then add or remove from their ranking based upon their success rate. Then you can match players by their rankings (sum of all parties in the team, or weighted average) and have the big players rise to the top to fight each other, while the smaller players end at the bottom to fight.

[drowsy thistle]

Check his crew maybe? He might have an officer that boosts speed after a ship kill, until the ship is destroyed or returns to base. Etc.

[steel dirge]

They already started everyone at 0 and added/removed from their ranking based upon their success rate.

How about NOT removing ranking from those players.

[robust bobcat]

I didn’t check the ship but I was maxed out with the speed crew and they caught me, I really think this is the least of the problems, the massive inconsistencies in match ups the loss of rep when you get smashed by an unfair match up and the fact that I will never source mirror uhuru is my main beef

[robust bobcat]

But that we undermine the speed cap, if there was work around, surely scopley will have coded for this 😏

[safe frost]

it's totally normal to see a cube flying towards you at what feels like 400 impulse. it shows 275 but catches up to your own speed crewed ship easily

[drowsy thistle]

Depends on when the speed cap is applied. If it is applied at the time the ship leaves the dock, then speed boosting crew could have an impact. To even need a speed cap in Arena implies that the impulse speed mechanic is broken at this point, and the speed cap is a bandaid approach to the problem.

[covert crag]

The rewards are also dumb. You win and get to unlock stuff that gives more of an advantage. That just spirals into an even harder feature to balance. Poor design

[brave flare]

Matchmaking = 💩, lags = 💩, Arena = still 💩…

Nothing more to say about that crap

[median root]

arena, arena never changes

[short kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/karate-kid-william-zabka-johnny-lawrence-john-kreese-martin-kove-gif-17480153

[fair creek]

ok, today seems very mild in matchup complains 😄

[short kayak]

I only get 70`s no matter what I do. I don’t complain, I go and bust them in the mouth, and get sent home 😂

No free ride from me. Nope

I get me one every now and then when they ain’t paying attention 😇

Take that opportunity to test and try and get better, or lay down and whine🤷🏻‍♂️

[austere otter]

Or you just ignore the event like most do because its been broken from the get go and no one has time for constant rebooting every match, matches that make zero sense on how they were even teamed up, and lag that not only on arens, but the rest of the game.

We need fixes not bandaids

[short kayak]

Those uhura artifact shards are quite valuable.

[steel dirge]

Rev Deuce has some great instructional videos if you need some arena pointers

[austere otter]

Revdeuce can kick rocks, I'm not playing an event that's BROKEN and has been since launch. Until its fixed, it gets zero playtime from me.

[short kayak]

Fight

That’s when videos like revs helps. Just saying

[steel dirge]

I thought you 'loved his content'. What changed?

[austere otter]

You know the answer. Cause I posted it there. Now shush

[sullen crane]

There's not a worse day for arenas than Mining Mondays, when you have to choose between giving up a hard to get mining spot or playing in a mismatched arena that locks you out half the time anyway to where you have to reboot the game.

[sullen crane]

With the hours of grinding that they want us to do, I almost forgot about arenas, which I'm not doing anyway. The hours of grinding can kick rocks too.

[short basin]

Arenas is trash. Until matchmaking is drastically changed, the population will continue to die. Really poor developer choice

[rocky crypt]

Titan buff is not working.

[stark raven]

oh i posted in wrong channel #💬-events-feedback message

[short kayak]

I’ll know quick on a max titan 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wild bramble]

Our avg power, 129434633. Theirs, 171743566. A 30% higher average power. You're telling me there's no closer matchup available?

[pastel skiff]

matches terrible. Other team has 3x the power of my team and 4 ops levels higher. G6 players vs G5

Gonna quit after 2 more bad matches. Had 2 already

[obtuse blaze]

Terrible match makings, terrible lags.

[short basin]

Matchmaking I think the worst it has ever been. Clearly the population isn’t there anymore. Just remove arenas until you overhaul matchmaking and fix the lag and add impulse back. Provide weekly currency in a gift chest until then.

[obtuse blaze]

Gathering every 400 points possible.... Just wasting lots of time

[wild bramble]

Very next matchup:

Our avg, 126119866. Theirs, 84406400. A 50% power imbalance, in our favor this time. This is not good matchmaking!

[obtuse blaze]

Less populated than before, people are losing interest in arenas. Just doing it for the points. No fun anymore

[worthy dirge]

When the other team’s weakest is bigger than your strongest, why should I even try. Unless you’re a super camper or whale… this isn’t worth the time.

[honest nacelle]

arena lag is really bad

[obtuse blaze]

New hijacked ent a and ent d are basically the same and hard to distinguish between these two in arena

[short kayak]

To the 69 with that bas @ss NSEA…..

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[shy linden]

easy match, great matchmaking, 11/10 would go again

[worthy dirge]

If every arena was this well contested as opposed to this being the exception to the rule, arenas would be something we all love.

[short kayak]

No shame there whatsoever

[astral skiff]

Yo the entire game is busted sooooo that logic doesn't hold lol

[short kayak]

My rare got busted up. But it is what it is. We tried. All good man

[obtuse blaze]

LIVE OPS CONTENT FAILED TO DOWNLOAD. Getting this error all the time

[short kayak]

Mark time. It’s definitely gone to heck in a handbasket

[finite hound]

Keeps popping in the middle of arena match

[worthy dirge]

So much lag I can no longer click enter match

[short kayak]

My team is playing. Yet I see this. Clear cache/restart/clear/restart. 5x each. 🤷🏻‍♂️

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[shy linden]

Ranking gain/loss between levels needs looked at. A win at gold 3 gave me 500 points and took me to gold 2, and a loss at gold 2 cost 600 points and back into gold 3. That sort of thing can be maddening to people trying to progress.

no reasons for the loss at rank+1 to be more than the gains at the current rank

[carmine rapids]

Fun

So much fun

Can we get like a chest in the XBorg store that gives the loot from these, and drop the rank requirement for the favors? Please? Like this feature is about as functional as Concord. Holy cow it’s so unfair. The 60 kept sending in his two maxed out epics and smoking us.

[short kayak]

PvP rewards deserve PvP play

[lilac forge]

#ArenasTrash. Fix the brackets!

[carmine rapids]

That would involve being able to properly play them. I love watching my ships fly off in random directions

[hazy basin]

I know this will sound harsh... But, anyone who starts a squad and then idles/doesn't click ready when the other two members join and click ready, should face a 1hr ban from arenas until people stop doing that.

[short kayak]

I guarantee you get nada for not even trying just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hazy basin]

say 3m? maybe 5m

Also, a surrender button, if all 3 members on one squad quit, to end it... when you have mismatches and all your docks are burnt, don't make it go 7-10m

yes people will 'abuse it' but it's a victimless crime

[fierce field]

What a great match up.

[hazy basin]

https://tenor.com/view/mysterymen-mysterymen-rage-mysterymen-car-car-vandalism-car-destruction-gif-25933030

love the name, sorry.

[lilac forge]

Skip arenas till it falls off the map and forces Scopely to actually fix the bracketing system. Imho it should be g4,G5,G6. There should be no G5 fighting g4, no G6 fighting G5. That's just stupid even with the ptw slant aside.

[hazy basin]

that's tough, just leaves the 40's at the mercy of the 49s

people would drop anchor and never move up. I'd opt for whale vs whale, let them find out who is the biggest of em all, vs the people without pay only chaos/ft

[lilac forge]

Players have more of a chance killing ships in their own weight class than facing opponents on the next tier up. Just a thought. And I like your idea also, have a PTW only bracket, problem is some ppl with lots of money are actually trash with crewing strategy etc and solely rely on purchasing overpower to compensate for it.

They wouldn't fight and would cry bullying to an equal whale with skill.

They only punch down not up

Like most on my server. They act tough against smaller alliances but cowtow to a bigger one.

[fierce field]

You shouldn't have a situation where you have one player on the other team that is more than double our combined team power. it doesn't make sense in any scenario.

[hazy basin]

no evidence we got rewards, didn't end...

[austere trail]

Fix your match making Scopley. An 11 level advantage should be impossible. This was followed by two 8 level advantages. ZERO chance to compete.

0 wins to 6 losses all lost due to a ridiculous 8-11 levels advantage in a row.

[short kayak]

It’s definitely brutal tonight

2-5. I’ll take it

[lilac forge]

It's only gonna get worse as more players "opt" out and only the big spenders remain. Imho

[short kayak]

Yep, but it’s just a game

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-statler-and-waldorf-waldorf-and-statler-see-you-next-week-gif-22959058

[snow narwhal]

getting tons of "subspace interference encountered" when trying to join armadas in arena

[grim oracle]

How do you manage to somehow make the matchmaking worse, week after week?

[short kayak]

Less people play because it’s bad. A snowball effect

Getting worse every week.

[golden mortar]

Same here. And when trying to just move ships.

[flat rain]

I love that I cant swap out my FT for PVP type during PVP Arena's because I only source 10.5k a WEEK.

[short kayak]

I leave torpedo pods on cube. It doesn’t matter anyway. Not wasting rods personally

Against 70`s

[winged sand]

week in week out its the same complaints over and over with arena and nothing is being done
I fail to see why Scopley refuse to change this stupid match making system of total combined ops level VS Total combined ops level and even that does not work because it matches higher...

Just simply match teams by the LEADERS ops level. its quick and simple.

If a Ops 50 LEADER forms a group. Match them against another ops 50 LEADER. Its the fairest way. its down to the leaders how they want to build their arena team then.

People DO NOT care how long they are queued for as long as they get a fair fight.

I'm tired of seeing people post screenshots like this...

He is ops 66 so match him against a ops 66 for crying out loud...

I haven't even seen a <@&509690795536941056> ask how everyone feel about arena matchmaking in months. I feel like no one cares anymore.

Arena could have been a great addition to the game but it has basically been abandoned now, oh and the impulse speed limit still sucks

[short kayak]

If people would stop buying packs for credits, they would have to do something. Nobody likes the conditions. Sooooo

[lilac forge]

Ding Ding. That's the magic word, spenders.

[astral stream]

<@&509690795536941056> I thought the ops difference was 4 ops levels of the arena starter? 63-56 is definitely not 4 ops level. Also the average is not within 4. First time I have evener been against a 67 before...

[inner plover]

It's 4 up, 4 down for starting a group, not who you face

[cyan void]

thats just match making being an ass

the grouping is fine both is within +/-4

and now is when i start talking about "weight"....

well typically they actually start giving u slightly higher ops as your opp when u get a winning streak, happened to me last week

[astral stream]

First one of the night so no winning streak to compare too.

[random furnace]

63 started ours...

3 70's......

[astral stream]

Just think this is the worse match making I have seen since the change months ago... Just kinda crazy

[cyan void]

your average rank is higher than theirs so the matchmaking thinks you're able to outmanoeuvre the opponent in skill

also because bad matching makes people quit so the pool of players to match with is smaller

[astral stream]

This is what we are more used to.

[runic isle]

Silver league still getting matched against platinum. Matching wait times are getting longer. Wonder what's going on... But I have a pretty good idea. 😔

[modern plume]

Anyway we can get a "Forfeit" option for when the matching making is so ungodly lopsided? At least that way I can take my loss and go home.

[drowsy thistle]

the whales remain, and the rest stop trying, so you're more likely to match a whale week by week.

[cyan void]

i agree but also not happening since people can abuse it for one. and also big daddy whales wont get to smack small guppies

you might need to figure out the best time to play arenas, for APAC usually the last 1 hour or so has barely any whales so its pretty good to play. went 4-0 yesterday in the last hour

downside of playing for an hour is you dont get a lot of arena emblems

[astral stream]

I only play for the emblems for the favors and mirror loot. the rest is eh

[drowsy thistle]

59 and 67 are within 4 of 63. That's your 4 ops levels. 60 is within 4 of 56, also 4 ops levels. Both teams are compliant to that restriction. Team on the right's average level is 63. Team on the left average is 59, so the 2 teams are close on paper from a level perspective.

[grim oracle]

Asinine

[tall prism]

959M avg power vs 1.4B avg power. Tell me how this makes any sense.

[sage shuttle]

Everyone still moaning about Arenas, You're the problem!!
It's no longer a cash cow for Scopely, so they ain't gonna bother fixing it.
Stop wasting your time and let it die the death it so richly deserves...Then they might do an Arenas mkII...lt still won't work, but it'll give the big spenders another reason to dump money into Scopelys bank account. 🤣🤣

[barren monolith]

Yes! If we stop complaining, then they’ll realize it’s bad. I’ve stopped participating - yet another blatant spit-roast for F2P with Scopely on one side, and whales on the other.

[arctic bramble]

worst arena day since it was taken offline for weeks. Power/level matchups are way out of wack and even had only 2vs3 in another! Fix this crap or do something different if it cannot be fixed

[ivory schooner]

i think i am done with arenas forever. just cant decide if its enough to make me quit playing totally. right now it feels like it is. there is no such thing as catching up no matter how much you throw at the game. you flat out cant and arenas just remind you of that

[vagrant horizon]

congratulations on somehow making the matchmaking even more amazing. this entire loop is DoA.

[cyan void]

it wasnt dead on arrival, they tweaked it and it became a bad mechanic

[plain aurora]

Iam done... fresh 58... no chance against most... i have the most (all) pvp research but there was a dmgoutput i can not explain... will try it after ally turnier... allylv 25 may help.

the only research i dont have is many prime

[noble sapphire]

Arena is a broken thing. Why can a 50+ be in a 40's arena?
50+ overpowers even a 49. despite research. Arena is Soo Broken.
Scopily you should be ashamed of yer lack of forsight.
ARENA IS MOST DEFINITLY BROKEN. And by yer hand.
Do you even feel shame?

There is no ability to advance the way it is setup now. Only Die.

No hope of a victory at all.

[proven trout]

You should just call it mismatchmaking!

[noble sapphire]

I'm a 49'er. fell down a shaft. Yet expected I am to face down a 51 when the best I have is a 70m ship verse a 200 mil ship. For crying out louund that is utter BS

[proven trout]

Pretty much this content is going to go the same way of the MegaCube where no one cares to participate

[noble sapphire]

it all depends on how much one is willing to shut up and give Gropily a free pass

Arena should be Op's based. Should not be 50's in a 40-49 arena base

THAT is my point

[wintry sparrow]

Um, WTAF?

[noble sapphire]

Wrong crowd. the wallet'ers

[spice fjord]

Quit option. Quit option. Give up option. Let me out of this waste of ten minutes option. SOMETHING. I had ONE hour to arena, and around multiple instances of the game being unable to list power or team when trying to join, I manage 3 matches as a new 60 and all facing teams with a 62 or 63 with p2w tech and multiple maxed epics.

Just stop already.

[hazy basin]

They'll make it a Prime

[noble sapphire]

Well I am 49. I can not commiserate with a 60.

[spice fjord]

Might be the best hundo I'd spend.

[noble sapphire]

a 49 shouldn't be trying to fight a 50. The power dynamics involved In just those 2 op's levels, ships/research doe not allow for a fair and valid arena match

Arena is just death. and a waste of time. at my level

Not even a chance of a win. so what is the point?

This is for feedback? Well that is my feedback. Peace

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza-4-tanimura-masayoshi-ignored-gif-7288501159632361009

[noble sapphire]

Mature, not

Though likely accurate

[cyan void]

this channel has basically been ignored for the past like 5 months 🤣

[noble sapphire]

okey doke. Then it seems a good time for it

[proven trout]

They didnt create the arnea to have fair matches, they made it to inspire more of us to spend money to be able to do them

[noble sapphire]

2025 49 all the way

no trust fund

Pilum to build

[cyan void]

actually a few options
play for fun and expect everything to go wrong
wallet/trust fund/sugar mommy/sugar daddy
camp levels for months max everything then go up(might still lose to huge whales)
good teammates(stings buffs etc used to support big guy). half the players forget buffs are a thing. and the other half sometimes forget that titan buff doesnt affect people outside your alliance

[pseudo grove]

sorry but Arenas are become really unrealistic to win - even single match during the date; for me (58opc with Red Matter) was dozen defeats last Monday and couple of defeats yesterday => rank down, but the point that it'll eventually become 0 if I'll continue trying. No more until I'll get Tantalus Field, and I'll get it most likely by 2030 as it takes huge time to grind even small portion of the hijacked splicers

[noble sapphire]

At this rate game is destined to die

[cyan void]

im not a spender but ive won arenas many times over the last 3 weeks. 🤷‍♂️

so 'unrealistic' is a stretch

hard? yea sure. matchmaking sucks? yea definitely. impossible to win? unrealistic? nope not at all

[flint cloud]

I thought the match ups were excellent. I was finally the guy overpowering smaller ones 😉 gremlinomw, 404

[drowsy thistle]

I'd just like to point out: for every match where the other team is too strong to stand a chance against them, there were 3 on the other side that had an easy win, who are happy with that match up.

[cyan void]

people just thumbs down when im speaking the truth 🤣

[cyan void]

yea not me tho, i won against 60s for 10 rounds straight last week 😅 . wasnt fun

[short kayak]

Enjoy it. Get arena rank while you can. But 67-69, it’s just bad mkay😂

Some of us are in that group that no matchmaking can fix. But like you, I roll with it. Get 10% win on average. But it is what it is

[runic isle]

The pick up group option needs to be adjusted. It needs to be a random group created from those waiting and matched against another pick up group. Premade groups need to fight premade. Pick up need to fight pick up

[cyan void]

i wont be going g6 for another year or 2 so yea ill be here for a long while 🤣

[short kayak]

Enjoy the ride 🥃

[lilac forge]

Same. Just hit 59 2 days ago and that is where I'm camping for a long long time. Can push but not going to go into a broken economy. Games bad enough as it is. Lol

[cyan void]

if youre rushing to g6 with bad research etc even after this arc, i think you should never complain, ever in your life 🤣

[alpine orbit]

the pain remains at 70 ops too, I have a t9 g6 epic and still almost exclusively get matched with 70 ops who have max g6 epics & cubes

[short kayak]

Fair point. But you normally would get me though 🥃

[warm wagon]

Arenas can be fixed? Not sure.

Things that could make it better FOR SURE:

1) get rid of rank decrease. For F2P is already hard enough to raise it (and it impacts heavily on the Mirror faction store / reputation advancement), it takes only a handfull of poorly matched rounds to have it again flattened to bronze IV.

2) match-making. Oh what can be done about it? OPS level is not the solution. Within the same OPS level, purely based on primes, there can be huge differences. If you limit the matching by power, the problem remains, again due mostly to primes (favoring P2P players). So, instead, the game engine should account for the primes that are only available through $$$ (i.e., if you have 1 or more of a given paid prime, you are NOT matching players that do not have it). Not all primes, mind you, exclusively the paid one. Also, the game engine should accound for win/defeat ratio: if you get a sequence of defeats, you'll be paired with teams with similar sequence, giving you chances of getting an eventual win. Sequences of wins puts your team against other winning teams. Everyone benefits.

3) tight playing window. implement more time slots to favor a wider audience/attendance.

[alpine orbit]

just get rid of rank decrease, then none of the other stuff matters. I'm perfectly happy to lose 30 matches in a row to get enough for my weekly pulls, so long as it doesn't drop my rank further. The only reason that I avoid arenas is because I worked hard getting my rank up to platinum 1 when I was 66/67 ops, and now I'm 70 ops I keep getting given really shocking matchups that I more often than not lose, I've already dropped to platinum 2 and don't wanna drop further

[cyan void]

yea its kinda whatever if you dont lose rep

if i get a bad match i just go do other thigns while waiting for the match to end

if its a ok match just play a bit and see if u can win

[sage plank]

I am fed up with the arena. I had yesterday a group consisting of one level 52 player (starter) and two level 56 players and was matched against a level 57 and two level.61 players. I don't mind getting level 57/58 players, but level 61 players is just ridiculous. I have given up on striving to get to Gold 1.

[errant forge]

Scopay hate the F2P players, why would they help you?

[cyan void]

because without f2p players the game dies

if every single f2p/low spender quits right now

by next week the game becomes almost unplayable because its just who has the bigger credit card which also means basically every single player that is no where close to 70 is gonna quit as well even if they may be a spender. TCs is probably just gonna become which bigger ship can sit on nodes and survive better.

[errant forge]

Indeed 💯

[patent slate]

Umm, I forget. Arena is terrible bc of the mechanics or the unplayable performance??

[cyan void]

both

[alpine orbit]

got something you wanna say? Instead of just clown reacting a perfectly reasonable comment 😂

[short kayak]

What they need is 2 systems. And the warp time between each is barely the same time as a rare armada.
Obviously everyone knows it started. Do they go? Or stay put.
A small chance both teams get split between the 2 systems.
Who’s faster 🤔 Who,panics first? 🙀

Something. Even small to give a better small team a better chance

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[faint wharf]

Good afternoon and goodwill.
After now sometime playing arena, I think I know the problem with matching.
When a person creates a team he is limited to 4 up and down levels.
However scopely looks the other way during match up and changes that rule.
In other words while one team is limited the other is not.
Example lv 55 creates squad and is limited to lv 51 to 59. That range is verified by its posting in alliance chat.
When matching scopely matches them to a squad btwn lv 55 to 63.
The answer ofcourse is to match from the person who created the squad, same rules, same limits.
To add insult to injury, what there doing means anyone up to lv 66 can and will be matched with +4 levels up.
Example a lv 70 player will never have play not a single lv higher.
The last insult in the matching up allows for access to rare and epic ships which a lv 65 and under does not.
Make matching fair and please no more excuses. Have a great day 😀

[rapid badger]

That's why I don't play arenas, no matter how good the loot is. Frustration is NOT fun.

[undone iron]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-fire-oh-my-burning-fire-trash-fire-gif-17954533

[short kayak]

One idea is multiple arenas. Different days. Ops based days. So 70s aren’t a factor for 66s for instance .
There are more than enough 70`s now. <@&509690795536941056>

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-arsenio-hall-questions-things-that-make-you-go-gif-15662381

[hazy basin]

I'm perfectly happy to lose 30 matches in a row was funny. I don't have 5 hrs for this

[hexed current]

Add a checkbox to confirm you want the Squad to NOT disband after the battle, this way there will not be squads that are listed but the members are not readying up because they turned the game off after once again being matched up with players that are a much higher level. I don't stick around in a battle when it is a woefully imbalanced pairing, so I turn the game off and come back later as you cant leave once you are in.

[unique isle]

Bookmark function for amazing players you have met and want to squad with again. The messages vanish regularly from inbox so it’s impossible to find them again some weeks

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/echo-bad-batch-star-wars-the-clone-wars-dont-care-gif-21500824

[safe frost]

Do you mean something like a friend list?

[cyan void]

yea something like that probably

[safe trellis]

<@&509690795536941056> Feels like arena could be improved by implementing more of a "flat battle" system, like some pokemon games have (battle spot, battle maison etc). Since we already know impulse speed can be nerfed, why not just have sections of ops levels that are set at specific limits or even maxed? Things could then still be based on crewing, ships obtained, primes, whatever. But even setting all player crews to rank 5, ships to max tier/level might help the matching issues and make arenas more strategy based, and also give incentive for people to play around with maxed power and want that in day-to-day gameplay. Just would naturally also have to set ops pairing parameters better than they are now too 😂

Probably should have put that into suggestions but.. oh well

[lilac forge]

Post was about arena feedback, this is arena feedback channel, oh well

[scenic rapids]

The Arena time window is very narrow, would it be possible to have it at least once more per week?

[junior topaz]

Arena is not working. Well done.

[cyan void]

heres an idea, if youre not gonna fix matchmaking etc

how about just updating the rewards in the arena store

exborg s31 and bajoran is probably quite useless for long time players

and even if you're not a long time player you'll max them within a year i think

so why not add DTI rep/ augment rep to the arena store?

[scarlet hull]

Hi Scopely my feedback to Arena: Why my squad with two level 54 and one 56 were againts 63 ,61 and 59? This is unreal and frustrating. This pass Monday matchmaking was horrible.

I think we can start with the simple things like the match making. I had a few members trying it but the matchmaking that they were also receiving was ridiculous and they don’t want to play it again.
I enjoy this mode when it’s fair but really how can a 56 even beat a level 61 or that 63. Let start simple, fix matchmaking.

[gusty star]

This kind of matching helps the bigger player (maybe as a reward for there spending) and it forces you to grow up - maybe with spending (more) money into the game.
Why should Scopely change anything?

[agile fable]

Server 202 so laggy we cannot complete arenas

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-thinking-of-you-gif-3819355119086486158

[ripe ingot]

rest in peace

[cyan void]

APAC arena is quiet

[stoic rapids]

Thats nothing to my (49, 51, 55) vs (63, 60, 60) 🤣

Ops, rank or power the opponent are simply on a different world 🤣🤣🤣

[lucid moat]

Yeah righto

[willow mantle]

Very similar to today for me.. the starter ops range is only 11 lol..! biggest player on ours (56) matched with lowesr of theirs (60) hmm <@&509690795536941056>

[turbid wadi]

Thats why many players just don't participate at all in this feature the +4/-4 matchmaking should be between the leaders/creator of the group not the biggest on your team to the smallest on theirs but hey scopley considers this👆 fair

[cyan void]

just take the tiniest level u can pair with and then enter matching. better matchups that way

thats if you really really wanna win

[lucid moat]

How is it a team started by a 42 can go against a 50... In what world is that even remotely close to good matchmaking?

[cyan void]

now here is when i start talking about "weight" again..... 🤣

[tall bobcat]

<@&509690795536941056> why do you not even comment... every week is the same.. horrible not even remotely far match making and you say ZERO do ZERO

[cyan void]

arenas technically is dead to them i guess

[lucid moat]

Bro his name is that he khan literally fix it

[cyan void]

gotta wait for arenas 2.0

[tall bobcat]

lols of course we are but they still throw 50s at us

[lucid moat]

Hey @gritty cobalt how's your c#? Keen to fix matchmaking for us? thx

[gritty cobalt]

errr I can't fix the matchmaking, buddy

[lucid moat]

But but... your name sir

[tall bobcat]

lols fix it @gritty cobalt

[safe frost]

You could by removing/reducing the rank losses so more people participate 😏

[cyan void]

that would unironically fix matching 😂

[safe frost]

Matchmaking at the start of the 3v3 arena was pretty ok for me. You had enough players participating and I rarely had matchups 2-3 levels above me. Recently 4-5 levels (with the ships to prove it) seems to be normal

Can’t fix matchmaking if there are no matchups 😄

[tall bobcat]

no one wants to play the best part of the week cause its totally screwed with matchmaking..... its not even hard to fix.. is it you just don't want to fix it?

[cyan void]

tryna encourage spending is one thing

[lucid moat]

Can you fix it

[cyan void]

nuh uh 🤣

[lucid moat]

We need a button to instantly forfeit so we don't waste peoples time with matches like this

Now we've gotta wait 5-10 minutes and do nothing because this isn't a fair match

[tall bobcat]

Maybe they just don’t want us to play arena

[brisk dragon]

WHYYYYY

[tall bobcat]

@gritty cobalt

What is this rubbish

[neon nacelle]

Can you make it not always on Mondays?? I work late on Mondays, and in the 7 months I’ve been playing have yet to make it home on time to get in a match. Maybe two different days per week and they can rotate? Or even make it a two day event??

[tall bobcat]

Back to back WTH Match’s

[toxic pine]

46+4=50 Matching is with in 4 ops

[candid fiber]

stuck in warp

restart did not help

[toxic pine]

clear localization?

REALLY need a forfeit button please just had a match where the oposing team was dominating, and they purposefully only did the small armada and hostiles not the rare middle armada. they took the FULL 10 minutes of the event. FIX ARENA AND STOP TORTURING YOUR PLAYERS

[gaunt fossil]

<@&509690795536941056> How this can be fair fight. maybe one player match, other two are way off range

[toxic pine]

now that is WAY out the +4 range

[cyan void]

ive seen 50s kill 56 ships before

[toxic pine]

so you have seen a max 50epic of about 300-400m kill a T10 56ship of about 1.2-1.5B

[toxic pine]

Send Screenshot please because that i do not believe

[lost badger]

it gets worse

[woven lake]

Fix this ****, seriously, its getting worse and worse every week

[cyan void]

technically it gets worse only because theres no enough people to match with

[rugged otter]

Welcome to Mismatch Monday 👋

[cyan void]

yipeee

[rugged otter]

2 matches, 45 starter vs. 200M 50s Epic

[cyan void]

who was your highest

[rugged otter]

maybe because its getting worse 🤣

[cyan void]

yea chain effect bad matching > quit > less people > even worse matching > more and more quit > extremely bad matching

[rugged otter]

43 (me) 45 (starter) and 49

[cyan void]

49 might have been the cause of it

sucks for rares to face epic tbh most times the rare wont even kill the epic

[rugged otter]

the cause of 45+4=50?

[cyan void]

actually you know what, ive played a lot of arenas and i still cant figure out matchmaking 🤣

i gave up on matchmaking long ago

[rugged otter]

I skipped spending because of it 3 months ago

[cyan void]

today my team 51 52 56(me, big boy sanctus) went against 6 matches. 5 against lvl 50 ish players and 1 times against 54 53 50(i think) granted that 54 was a whale but still smacked him so obviously he sucked

and then last week uh, we dont talk about last week 🤣

[cyan void]

havnt spent since my dvor like 5 years ago or smt around there

[rugged otter]

5 years ago I havn't even heard about this game, and it looks like my journey goes on

[craggy heron]

far too laggy to enjoy this, regardless of the balance.

[short basin]

?????

[flat basalt]

[rugged otter]

64+4 = 2x 70 😱

[trim notch]

Is there a way to report AFK hosts?

Or if there is no activity by a host, automatically disband the group

[knotty minnow]

why are you still posting.... they don't care anyway😂

[rugged otter]

This is the end .... 🎶

[rich citrus]

I‘d like an easy way to communicate with the other two squadmembers on a public squad please 🙏🏻 maybe a separate chatbox or sth

[fickle niche]

they already are aware that we want this, but it doesnt seem to be a priority thing to work on by the time it arrives, arena would just be another forgotten dead loop

[short kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/weve-seen-this-before-five-aidan-gallagher-the-umbrella-academy-this-isnt-new-gif-26245904

A few 🥃🥃🥃🥃 and I just don’t care

[knotty minnow]

they continue like this until nobody pays anymore and then the servers are simply down

[short kayak]

I for one don’t care about KDR. I just want my credits and my artifact. I get spanked by 70`s 95% of the time. It’s just another grind for me. Although 2 hours tops is all I can take

[toxic solstice]

How can the matchups be getting even WORSE. lol get rid of arenas already

[rugged otter]

It already is - a dead loop with benefits for just a few.

[winged sand]

im not even going near arena's until i F2P unlock Khan FC. its just pointless, the buffs are to unbalanced

[short kayak]

It’s night and day for sure. But both parties with it, results are actually similar to before khan.

[thorn thicket]

I enjoy beating people who have fc khan. It's not that unbalanced unless they spent the money to max it.

[surreal oak]

Lame

[rugged otter]

Just avoid PvP situations

[surreal oak]

Wont work

[crystal sleet]

If this type of matching is going to continue, please add a mercy button to end the match. This is just wasting everyone's time.

[broken wagon]

No point to even participate in arenas. You cant dig out of the hole in rank. So no rewards. This system sucks.

[flint cloud]

I was 2-12. Was a bad bad day.

[short kayak]

1-0. I’m grinding Aug screw it😂

Big boys are on now.

[white horizon]

Such a poor management by scopely, what happened to the +/- 4??? Of course their algorithm is terrible, seriously, they need to fix this, they r toooo busy giving new events is just an excuse not to correct their programs. .....

....................Tribbles

3,5 and 9 ops levels higher than me, less for my team, but still, doesn't matter when every opponent is like this

....................Tribbles

[trim crow]

Lol..I just matched against a 67 right after the above match

[silk spear]

^this is not a loop. It went on for almost 60seconds

This is THE most unplayable Arenas has been for me yet. Must exit/re-enter system between every target.

[shy linden]

lol at this matchup, stop with the average ops level already, its a stupid matching criteria and is to easy to game

[hazy basin]

just checking in for my this is awful weekly update. give the whales their own league, even an easy win isn't fun, there's nothing that's close, blowout one way or the other. I just get in, get my 2100, get out. Arena is a mistake as it runs

Nothing about this is good. It's not just bad, it's boring

an easy win still takes 5-7m

This has been my Ted Talk, see you all next week

[crystal mountain]

Two types of arena players, those with maxed ratings, a monthly pack budget equivalent to your mortgage payment and the seals served up to club who at least get loser points

[hazy basin]

I call us Krill, we don't even put up a fun fight

[crystal mountain]

I like arenas - don’t get me wrong. But it’s getting a bit silly to be staring down the barrels of a 150b cube parked at my spawn point. I just sign on, grab a coffee, come back in 5-10 mins = 400 Terran faction credits

[hazy basin]

i don't, they made pvp as an afterthought, to get us mad enough to spend... and for the few it works on it seems to bring in a ton of cash. there's no thought of balance or even fun. I've been in how many months of it, I've had 2-3 matches where skill determined the outcome in that whole time

It's always the cash grab games that do a poor job of it. when the game is designed with it in mind, every ship, every officer, ever tech is tuning, to not overbalance things.

the jump betweem say, 49 and 50, is insane, 3x power ships

plus, you know, people drop anchor and just bully at certain ops level, rather be the big fish in a small pond, no mechanism to dislodge

as I said, it's worst sin is it's boring, no suspense, no chalange, just did they spend or not

If everyone not in the whale club just either boycotted or got in and out, the whales would see where they really stand. going 9-1 vs nubs is fun for them, going 3-7 vs bigger spenders will cause them to quit

[trim crow]

The arenas matchmaking efffing blows

[tepid osprey]

Need to put a ship power limit on the ships used in the Arenas so no matter the ship's actual power the ones ones are limited to a max power level and maybe limit player matches to those of only 1 level up or down from the initiator of the matches.

This continuted mismatching crap need to end with overpowered players dominating vs others who don't have a chance of competing.

[crystal mountain]

12 more scheduled losses and I can triple refine in the Terran store daily for the week. lol

[trim crow]

@muted badger I got matched against same team 3 times in a row. Whats up with this broken matchmaking? Thats 30 mins of my already packed monday wasted

[cyan void]

genuinely curious why people play arenas knowing it's horrible and then go on to complain😅

[snow narwhal]

cause there's things they need from the terran faction, presumably

[cyan void]

yea I get that. I play for the mirror dust but I don't whine when I face a 3B ent D😂

[snow narwhal]

Please for the love of god remove starters who are inactive from the queue. It's absurd this hasn't had anything done about it. The same people sitting in the queue all day having people join and leave because they're never delisted

[frozen swallow]

been a while since i did some arena, is it any better? :<

[wicked tulip]

Absolutely not. Most issues remain as they did from near day one, but now you have the further problem of a smaller player base, which inflates the issues further. I miss the bigger teams, larger ops spread, and uncapped impulse

[coral sequoia]

i cant send any ships in arena. even after restarting 7 times

[lilac lichen]

Arenas is now only to be endured. Sure it can be fun. But just need enough for weekly pulls. Would really like that g6 ship favor. @muted badger what is the player data on this? What percentage participation do you guys show?

[icy sail]

So I start a group (ops 40) and get paired against a team with a ops 49? And combined power 162.6m vs 318.1m? There's a player with more power than my entire group COMBINED. With all due respect, this matchmaking is awful.

[trim crow]

@muted badger @gritty cobalt worst arena experience ever...out of 10 matches so far 5 of them were waaay out of my league with opponents at 65-67 range while I am 60 and biggest in our team. And then there were 3 matches against the same team consecutively. Fix the matchmaking!!!!!!!

[spice fjord]

Give us a damn quit. Every week, limited time, unreasonable match after unreasonable match I'm stuck waiting to end. After a full arc of too much screentime JUST STOP.

[spice fjord]

Hey this match where a leading 56 and 2 60s face a leading 63 with a 59 and a 66 is totally realistic and withing the realm of Scopely coding a +4/-4 match setting.

Great job overlords.

[crystal mountain]

It would be interesting if arena rating had weight into the match making - allowing the plebs a chance instead of facing the firing squads

[pulsar geyser]

I would really like to know how your algorithm or whatever process your servers use allows this to happen? A team led by a 56 going up against a team with a 66.

[plush pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-worf-star-trek-tng-gif-14364051566714364063

[cyan void]

there is weight to the arena matching. thats why people who have really high ranking at like 43 or smt can face lvl 50 epics

same reason why i as 56 face 52/51/50 since they're all maxed rank

[plush pulsar]

It is a bit goofy. I had a pair of players with me for several matches who were half my power (I'm ops 64 at 1B) but they really knew what they were doing. We had to fight one team with an ops 66 dude. Sadly for him, I could beat him pretty routinely so we won.

[cyan void]

yea they factor that as well

the 'weight' is arena rank since the higher your rank, the more they think you're supposed to know what you're doing(impulse running around, entering armada then running again and entering at 10s mark, sting buffs etc) this usually leads to "unfair matching" about 70% or the time

but what people dont account for is that their rank for their level is an anomaly so to counter that and make it fairer they get paired against higher players

is it fair? no duh. but its a countermeasure of sorts

the other 30% of matching is just.... matchmaking

[proven trout]

Same old Mismatchmaking crap

[edgy ice]

Ops54 led team with me as a new 58 as the strongest member, up against a 60 with a 3.5b ship. Once again, please explain how this is supposed to be remotely fun.

[worthy dirge]

<@&509690795536941056> uhhhhhhh

Arena needs better stability and better match making,

[astral skiff]

Really bad lag this week.

[fading flume]

I do like when I finally get to win, but this matchup was just wrong.

[cyan void]

lol higher arena rank than u so they probably had a decent win streal

usually once u get win streaks they pair higher and higher to shut you down

kinda sad but 🤷‍♂️

[fading flume]

True. Rank and win streak makes sense, could also be so few participate nowadays that was the only match out there.

[cyan void]

yep that's the other reason, bad matching = lower participation from guppies

[astral skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/get-it-together-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20792475

[patent slate]

How did I get matched with ops 56? I'm ops 50 ....

[cyan void]

the 53 pulled u up

did u win?

[scarlet hull]

I guess Scopely doesn’t play this game. If so, show us how a 54 going to beat a level 60 players. Horrible match making these past two weeks.

[cyan void]

your average rank is way higher than their average rank

not fair but it's a balancing mechanism of sorts

[scarlet hull]

It’s not balancing it’s destroying the game

[cyan void]

it is

if you've reached that rank you in some way and from have learnt to maximise your ship times in arena which means in terms of macro, yours is better than the players u face

[scarlet hull]

Look at the last screenshot 2(54) and a 50 match againts two (56) and a 60.

[cyan void]

yep still the same

"weight"

in the event they don't pair U with higher ops to maintain a degree of fairness and you only face 53s. how would U feel if you only face your lvl and constantly lose

[scarlet hull]

We reached that rank because match making was better before than what it had been when this new arc started.

[cyan void]

it's also the reason why 50s may face 53s. either it's just matching bad or the 53 team lost so much the matchmaking thinks they suck so they send them to face a lvl 50 team that has a decent win streak to even it out

[cyan void]

it was pretty much the same back then but matching was much better only cause there's many more participants

[scarlet hull]

So someone screwed or changed something up and now all we get level 60s with 2.0 billion power ships.

[cyan void]

so the highest you would face last time is 56 with some whacko rare

and at least rares are killable with uncommon ships

rares against epics is practically a loss unless for some reason their research is really really bad

[scarlet hull]

If I face my level up all the time I have a fighting chance. That makes the game fun and challenging. But what does a 600 million power Corvus has againts 1.2 billion power Santum or 2.0 billion power Enterprise D.? None

[cyan void]

and in the case U win every single time? the enemy won't feel happy either

well technically no one's happy losing

[scarlet hull]

It’s simple if you start a match you go 4 lower and 4 higher. Then it should match up with same level player so both should have at least the possibilities.

[cyan void]

1.2B sanctus is somewhere in whale territory or they've got some 57+ research

[scarlet hull]

Should be no reason that a 60 be in the categories of a 50s. The same goes for in the 40s. A 50 level ship shouldn’t be in the 40s.-

[cyan void]

technically 60 still is g5 so it kinda makes sense but I still hate facing 60s and their dumb ent D

[scarlet hull]

It’s a very nice game mechanics but the past two to three week’s matchmaking has been horrible.

[cyan void]

2-3 for you? it's been horrible for the past 2 months for me🤣

[scarlet hull]

We have great strategy and communication but lately againts the 60s that we are getting match with has been very unfair and just takes the fun out of the game.

[tall bobcat]

so even though im ops42 my p1 rank is part of the issue

[cyan void]

yep

[thorn thicket]

I would drop the 54 with 150m power and pick up someone stronger. Or I would pick someone smaller in ops to host so you can dodge the 60's.

[cyan void]

power doesnt always mean weak ships tho, some people just dont upgrade their base guns

[uneven wing]

also they're in the same alliance; it may be "matchmaking optimal" to kick your alliance member, but that's not a realistic ask

[cyan void]

i played with a alliance mate that had 600mil rot

i had a very very long toilet break after that first match

i feel rushed players shouldnt play arena especially if they're 60 since the average just goes up 🤔

[next ridge]

How does a 70 leading match with a 61 leading? All i could do was go cook my dinner and wait for the next match which was just as bad of a match up.

[patent slate]

Here's mine

[snow narwhal]

you won though, right? 👀

[timid bronze]

Arena is VERY UNBALANCED. Last session I was matched against teams that each had two players with 10B power ships (our max was 2B). Arena teams should all be players at same ops lvl to be a realistic challenge.

[surreal oak]

Yeah we did a swing below that was sad, if there was a draw button I’d have offered it so nobody takes the L

[scarlet hull]

Or simple decline Match Up. Give the leader of each squad to accept the match or decline it before starting it.

[timid bronze]

Or just make more balance. Only ops of starter, or ONE level up or down. No more 66 fighting a 58

[cyan void]

there would be no matches that way

the fastest way would just be remove ranking and add a concede button but make the concede button a voting system so majority needs to vote yes to surrender(2/3 or 3/3)

[fringe tendon]

👍🏻

[white sorrel]

Dead mechanic. They show no interest in fixing this.

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wait-carbonfin-carbonfin-gaming-wait-a-minute-hold-on-gif-18988345

https://tenor.com/view/who-wouldve-thought-not-me-who-would-have-thought-gif-21140374

[blazing cargo]

Why can't we have server arena teams instead of everyone just in a random pool, that way you can join with people you at least know, and interact with on a somewhat regular basis.

[tepid osprey]

Need to fix your HORRENDOUS matching system by restricting groups to same player levels which may fix the grievously mismatched opposing team match-ups.

[slate plinth]

I just wish they would rotate the times so everyone can participate

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/well-well-well-rich-rebuilds-what-do-we-have-here-would-you-look-at-that-gif-16247970545609195581

its monday again

[glacial junco]

Seems no one is participating right now. No public squads open and no nibbles when creating an alliance squad. RIP arenas, we will remember you 🕯️
Maybe not fondly, but remembered all the same...

[cyan void]

yea i dont see any public squads either 🤣

so probably 52-60 players arent playing rn or they're playing with alliance mates

[brisk dragon]

WHYYY SCOPELY WHYY

[icy zodiac]

👀👀

[tall bobcat]

what the heck match making ...

[lucid moat]

Once again, may I offer some constructive feedback.. This matchmaking isn't really matchmaking, please may we have at least players in our own material grade or bracket?

[split whale]

Why do we constantly get higher levels against us

[tall bobcat]

More BS

[lucid moat]

Why can 1bil power NSEAs be put up against ops 46's/42s?

[cyan void]

the power of money

[valid junco]

That’s some spending

[lucid moat]

It's not just the money that's a problem, I can beat plenty of pay to plays but they're ops 50, all three of them are ops 50. We are 42, 43 and 46...

[sudden phoenix]

Ship with flawed design allowing it to reach high G5 power while the player's stuck in G4.

[lucid moat]

No rares are spawning...

[turbid wadi]

because if they made arena matching actually fair which they honestly could other games much older have done it and still made huge profit then they'd have to admit they can in rest of game which they won't do cause then whales wouldn't be able to feed on players 20lvs lower than them and have any real competition.

[rocky crypt]

Can we get this fixed. Having to restart multiple times within minutes is annoying.

[cyan void]

better question...did you win 😛

[sick jacinth]

i just love seeing all these bad matchups, makes me remeber why i chose never to play arena again

[cyan void]

i had fun in arenas today 👀 probably only me tho

[sick jacinth]

probably, some alliance mates of mine formed a team just now, ops 66. 62 and 61, and got matched against 2 70's and a 66, good times

[cyan void]

i mean only bad match was going against a 60 today but i still won 2 out of the 3 times i paired against that team so im fine with it 👀

reached plat 2 today

[mossy granite]

Honestly? In which parallel universe should that be a fair match? Could you please disclose how match making works? Or better why it fails?

[cyan void]

in the universe where the 46 completely rushed and only has a 20mil or smt pilum

[mossy granite]

Its more like a 90mil pilum ...

[cyan void]

uh

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-gif-14129006203736939143

[median root]

really?

[mossy granite]

And another, thx scopely

Here is a suggestion for a fair match making: there are obviously ops levels that unlock new ships. Like 42, 45 etc. A match 42 vs. 45 will likely result in a match of an uncommon vs. a rare ship. Sure, if badly crewed, the rare might loose, but that is unrealistic. Hence, if you are interested in fair match making , then those ops levels should not be mixed.

[cyan void]

42 vs 45 is still unc vs unc

[mossy granite]

Right, 42 vs 46, same argumentation though

[cyan void]

well u can kill rares if you use enough stuff like buffs etc

kinda goes away once u run out tho

[mossy granite]

Realistic conditions is not to use every boost possible. And if so, the rare is probably boosted too and we are in the same situation as before ...

[cyan void]

my 1b sanctus went on a killing spree against 3b enterprise rot 2.5b dd

max fort cherry sting

[vivid sedge]

Are you ever going to fix matchmaking so a team of ops 48/49/50 doesn't get paired with someone who has 600mil+ ships they can't physically have?

It's not that hard, surely?

[rugged otter]

no 🤣

[fair creek]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[leaden sable]

pairing is not fair

[modest estuary]

At the risk of repeating myself… those „experts“ who can‘t fix matchmaking should be fired on the spot 😡

[vivid sedge]

"Working as intended"

[ornate garnet]

That MatchMaking ...

[distant crane]

Please delete Arena completely . Matchmaking is absolutely No Fun and this Feature isnt fun ,Just frustrating and an awful Player experience

[rugged otter]

They are not interested at all, already made such suggestions last year - and since it got even worse, I removed the credit card from account

[mossy granite]

How many of those mismatches shall we gather?

[modest estuary]

5, no 6, oh 7 matches in a row of early G6 players against ops 66 to 68. Hope that high-spenders bring enough money to $copely to compensate for all casuals that quit due to such 🐮💩 events (and i really don‘t mind the challenge to hit ships 3x my ships’ power)

[short kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-rock-gif-3858591

[median root]

"fun" playing vs ships triple our power, but if it is not fixed by now i dont think it will ever be. every week teh complains are the same

[rugged otter]

I was a medium spender until this mess

[mossy granite]

One more 😂

[errant crag]

Tried Arena for once. I am ops 67. All matches matched against 70. Dropped rank even. My rank was already low, now even lower.

This is honestly a joke. Have no other words for Arenas. Pairing should be on the same ship range. At least the highest of the 2 groups should be max the same ship group.

Arenas is absolutely no fun for G6. Frustrating even to be honest. I could see people leaving frustrated just because of Arenas. Especially since you locked everything behind rank and you are brutally punished in rank by loosing a match.

Please listen to people’s feedback here or just pull the plug completely out of Arenas.

[craggy heron]

awful lag, as usual

[finite hound]

Okay let’s ask this question why is arenas only 1 day a week at certain hours? When every other faction can be done at all hours of the day please open it up to every day at any time that it is chosen to do you will open it up for everyone to complete things and because of the way you have it already setup you would have better competition. Great games that last have multiplayer style of fun this is yours use allow your players to use this feature you cramming it into one day is what bogs down your servers

[ornate garnet]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 I really hope the devs look the comments this is ridiculous ...

[plain aurora]

matchmaking f-

[craggy heron]

it is so much no fun fighting ships 3x stronger or even more than oneself and it seems there are no plankton doing arena anymore

[rugged otter]

My smaller f2p account already outranked my G6 account completely. I'm one of these players on one of the newer servers and I just fill up loops there, but really playing this account with spending stopped 3 months ago. It's really a mess and I suggested stopping demotion, somewhat more credits when defeated and additional windows to enter end of last year in several constructive feedbacks.
I don't know why they don't implement improvements here - where as a almost complete DTI rollback was possible (and in my opinion not necessary). Guess this is just the wrong game for me, maybe I should reactivate Diablo Immortal, which is btw. much cheaper for spenders.

[finite hound]

You mean like this

I’d say it is 🤷🏻‍♂️

Or this

It can be done

[plain aurora]

matchmaing is a bad joke

[agile forum]

every single week the same problem

can we just have an idle timer or something on these public squads so we can avoid joining when it's clear the leader is afk?

also, a chat feature would be very nice to have within the arena team...

[fair creek]

https://tenor.com/view/hook-hajime-no-ippo-kimura-boxing-gif-25832371

[errant crag]

Couldn’t agree more. I have to be honest and scopely do listen to community feedback at times, but they seem to ignore any feedback about arenas.

Yeah funny is those G6 people are the biggest spenders in game, usually taken, but completely shoved up with Arenas. Most G6 players i know have terrible arena ratings and the G5/G4 guys more

[golden mortar]

Whats wrong with that one? Looks like a great match to me

[golden mortar]

I agree it can be done. Some on here will not like you posting this. LOL

[agile forum]

also this bug quite annoying

[rugged otter]

I got demoted 3 times in a row and skipped the arena therefore with the G6 account - and with content not available even with spending, this account is dead. The account is now 1.5 years old, got every special ship in store when available for this account, also spend for some Primes and Artifacts and Material to speed up the growth. Too bad seeing this account dying and the prosperity of my 1 year old f2p G4 Account now otw. to Gold Rank. Started this account to give lower players advice in growing their accounts and now I'm the low player giving higher players advice.

[wraith beacon]

Great job Dopely

[plain aurora]

that matchmaking is a bad joke over ops 56... the programmer dosnt know how thd ships work... yes its possible to win against epic g5 and uncommen g6 but not in arenafights. most there only possible by a epic vs epic

[zealous tinsel]

so i'm gonna politely ask how the hell does this happen.... and so help me if the words "your ranks" or something to the effect of that are part of the answer i'm gonna lose my 💩

[rugged otter]

worse matchmaking drives players out of arena, which makes the matchmaking even worse, which ...

this process goes on for months now - in 2-3 months the 3 remaining 40s are matched vs the 3 70s

[finite hound]

Yea I know can’t show lower ops kicking higher ops in the you know what’s 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll get the cheater remarks like my alliance mate @worthy mist

[plain aurora]

think we see the death of arena

[rugged otter]

we see the death of G6, not the arena

[plain aurora]

g5 isnt better

[wraith beacon]

WTF Dopely

[worthy mist]

Did someone say you can't punch up 3x power?

[finite hound]

☝🏽

We beat up higher ops all the time

[rugged otter]

Reveal the VT and CT 😂

[plain aurora]

max field/ red matter and q cannon

[rugged otter]

My maxed D'Deridex can't do this with same crew and equipped Thalaron and Q Cannon

with both crews shown

[zealous tinsel]

my last match forced me to restar 4x. once it wouldn't let me select the arena system. then my ship was stuck in warp, then the dock bar was missing at the bottom and it force closed the game.... THEN it wasn't showing me where my ships were... not off to a great start this week

[ancient hound]

every week the same here... surprised people still try and expect a different result gambling at its finest or some kind of stockholm syndrom

[worthy mist]

its research

[finite hound]

Man there are free things in the faction that you get called favors as well 🤣

[worthy mist]

The DD is as good as the augur, actually think the Augur would be better🤷‍♂️

[rugged otter]

Wish you a great time, I'm out 👋

[short kayak]

3-0

https://tenor.com/view/you-better-quit-while-youre-ahead-mr-mackey-south-park-south-park-pajama-day-s25e1-gif-24821741

[flat basalt]

If scopely ever release a good alternative way to source premium mirror dust then arena will die instantly.

[finite hound]

Not necessarily arenas is a great way to play against other players involving the community I don’t understand why people lose their minds over losing not like trit is even involved

[flat basalt]

It's not soo much about losing but the game mode itself is not what I would describe as fun. So I believe most play for the rewards not the experience of arena and once the rewards become irrelevant it's over.

[unique robin]

IMA FIND YO BASE

[finite hound]

We get mirror dust from events that should have killed arenas if that was the case

[finite hound]

🤣🤣🤣 come and get it you know where it will be

[flat basalt]

It would take years to complete the research by relying on the amount from events alone. If another good source comes out we will see what happens to arena participation.

[short kayak]

But seriously. The big boys get on by 7 pm est and later

[atomic inlet]

It's really dumb that joining arena pulls your miners from token space and it doesn't give points in lat rush or give you the material you mined

Just did arena for the first time and lost billions of points and a hundred million g5 material

Thanks scopley

[solemn kelp]

welcome to the club, we all did it at one point. now i just dont do mining monday anymore.

[limber shard]

Arena is bull squat. Pairing ppl with others that have ships 4-5x stronger is crappy.

[finite hound]

Just means you have things to work on not hard to beat things that much stronger #💣-arena-feedback message

[soft thicket]

More like $10k to spend which is just silly.

[grim oracle]

Just ridiculously stupid.

[limber shard]

Thank you for this completely unhelpful comment. I know i need to work on my ships. Doesn’t change what I said.

[worthy dirge]

How are we supposed to be competitive in arenas when I spend as much time restarting and clearing localization as I do competing? It puts us as individuals as a disadvantage and is puts our teammates at a disadvantage. For all the issues with pairing, stability needs to be a FAR bigger focus.

[finite hound]

Have you gotten the favors?

[finite hound]

This is an example of what you can do

People need to stop saying it can’t be done 🤷🏻‍♂️

[limber shard]

I don’t have either of those ships.

You are the kind of person that always has to be right aren’t you?

You’re insufferable

[grim oracle]

You’re comparing g5 power differences to G6, and the gulf between the two is quite vast. Yeah, most g5 players can handle a hundred thou power difference. Come up to G6 and try a 5 BILLION power difference, and let me know how it goes with your favors.

[finite hound]

No just giving examples of that you can it’s not about being right it’s showing you it can be done

[limber shard]

Insufferable

[finite hound]

Now you’re being childish cause you have been proven incorrect

[finite hound]

You were saying

[limber shard]

No, I haven’t. I can not do that. I do not have those ships. The ships and crew that I do have cannot do that. That’s a fact. You are being an insufferable clown. Get lost.

[blazing hornet]

Ok

[grim oracle]

Hate to tell you, but the 63 uncommons are useless at pvp, and that’s before you factor in the armada crew on it.

[finite hound]

But you said the power difference is billions

😬

It’s uncommon vs unc

[grim oracle]

I can do it too, but it’s not the ship power numbers, it’s the player power numbers that are the issue in arenas.

[blazing hornet]

My battles were incursion, not arenas.

[finite hound]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-yes-celebrate-gif-9743726

[minor ice]

I see matchmaking is still complete horse 💩

[faint wharf]

Arena still needs work, my first 2 games are waist of my time. Is rather give up then to give away power destroyed and suffer a loss that was inevitable. You guys sux! Have a great evening and you should be embarrassed, shameful conduct.

[minor ice]

This is not hard. Brackets should be determined by shipyard tiers.

And for the love of Spock, give us a CONCEDE button.

Stop making us waste time.

[digital geyser]

New bug for me. Base never made it into the arena. Restarting and clearing localizations does nothing. Can’t warp in, ships get stuck. Just wonderful

[finite hound]

I’m sorry if you struggle being up that high means you pushed ops to hard 🤷🏻‍♂️ sometimes staying lower keeps you happier with your experience in the game you let scopely move you up

Matchmaking is good to us

[digital geyser]

In this particular case, you’re clearly lacking a ton of research, syndicate rep, emerald chain progresssion or all of the above.

[faint wharf]

It's not hard at all, the person that creates the squad sets the parameters period.
In other words if a lv 60 creates the squad, that means only lv 56 to 64 may join. That's all they should see period. How can it be ok for scopely to believe that team should fight against a team with a lv 69? That's not fair and with all the complaints and time is disrespectful.
It's the team leaders problem to pick 4 up or 4 down, and that same parameter should be the only determining factor in matching. And that is hard.

[arctic bramble]

Fix the matchmaking...not that hard to even the numbers.

[still flicker]

Really?! Just one of their guys almost has the total power of our entire team

[grim oracle]

I’m perfectly fine with my experience, but thank you!

[finite hound]

If you were you wouldn’t be complaining about going against other g6s 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wintry sparrow]

<@&509690795536941056> How is this real life?

(60 + 56 + 60)/3 = 58.7
(64 + 62 + 60)/3 = 62

[patent orbit]

This week had some of the worst matchmaking I have seen so far. Also had several times when I hit attack, didn't mater if it was a hostile or a player, and my ship would start moving and then just stop. Of course had the normal ship no where near where it's showing up on the screen glitches, not being able to enter match without restarting and just basic lag fest.

[digital geyser]

Been stuck in the matchmaking screen about 5 minutes. Guess everyone stopped playing. 🤣

Smells like a Scopely bug, and if so, RIP any more matches tonight

[wintry sparrow]

We waited a couple of minutes for that garbage match I posted, so be happy? 😂

[finite hound]

That 57 is about as strong as a wet paper bag 🤷🏻‍♂️

[digital geyser]

Matchmaking is a mess. Not even platinum ranked (anyone) and it’s always against 3 platinum or one higher tier ship platinum.

[high rivet]

Yea not sure how hard it is for Scopley to match or closely match ship power over player power

Because this is insane being matched to players with 3b power ships when your largest is only 800m

[candid gate]

SUGGESTION: A separate slot for "ARENA FT/CT". It's prohibitively expensive to swap FT/CT every week to PVP-oriented FT/CT in order to do arenas. Add a separate slot that lets us choose FT/CT that becomes active only when we swap over to arena instance!

[sick coral]

Arena matching will probably never work well from matching players. Instead, they should be matching ships, giving each ship an arena rating, and not allowing ships out of range to match up. That’s why there are rules on nascar vehicles, not drivers.

[unique robin]

Bro, what the actual hell? How in the world is that fair. 😂

It's ok, I scratched someone's paint

[astral skiff]

I've met your 60, they're not fair 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[unique robin]

Im down to 1:1 1 lvl 70 against us, but 3 is event still absurd

[short kayak]

Always let them know you were there and not scared

[wintry sparrow]

<@&509690795536941056> This is beyond ridiculous.

[candid gate]

I'll raise you one haha

[torpid talon]

Wow, that's a fair match SCOPELY.....GFY

[cyan void]

you've got slipstream

[torpid talon]

@candid gate welcome to my server

[short kayak]

How bad did that gs31 hurt?

Avacado

😂

[torpid talon]

Do you plan on fixing the arena match setup or just let more people quit the game?

[copper kelp]

Scopely doesn't care about players. I haven't done an arena in a month or so. Don't even miss it. It was great the first day. Then they "fixed" the matchmaking and killed it.

[torpid talon]

No, it wasn't even good on the first day..

[copper kelp]

Can't even ask the devs about it either. Gotta protect their sensitive little feelings.

[cyan void]

how about everyone just stop playing arenas and once they see the numbers drop maybe they'll ddo something about it

[zealous tinsel]

our match immediatly before this one was against 3 ops 70 players and we had no chance at all.... but 1... that's do-able lol

[broken wagon]

I hate the arenas more than anything

Also i hate quantum slipstream

[cyan void]

can get it f2p now at least

[fickle birch]

<@&509690795536941056> and anyone of major importance. You guys need to fix this armada garbage with arena. Give every blasted enemy i go up against under 10 seconds to still get in arena ( 2 of them 6 secs, 1 at 3 secs, and an assortment of others ) all of this extra time. Yet I dont get a chance at under 10 seconds. You guys cant do anything right with arena, end this madness and fix it completely before you place it back in.

[sullen crane]

I get all my ships locked frequently and get paired with people I have no chance at winning against. It's over in the first 10 seconds. Then there's the day it's on - mining Monday, where you must choose between giving up a hard to get mining node (a server just merged with ours. What a mining nightmare) or choosing the frustration of the arena.

I wish they would first of all, fix it, then let it play all day every day for anyone who wants to. Running it constantly would take the pressure off doing it on Mondays, and it would let people go at their convenience.

[toxic fiber]

😬

https://tenor.com/view/my-bad-homie-cringe-yikes-my-fault-michael-scott-gif-16584484

[cyan void]

i think it was better if u didnt say anything 🤣

its funny tho

[fair creek]

who said you cant? 😄

[cyan void]

his iso higher?

[fair creek]

fc khan + spock icheb did trigger bc of morale
but no pvp ft

[cyan void]

u can see if fc khan triggers? 🤔

[fair creek]

mine did 4 sure ^^

[cyan void]

oh i dont have fc khan rip 😅

[plain aurora]

i dont have it to... against some g5 epic pvp i can kill without problems but if they do a bit in pvp i dont have a chance...

and i try a lot

[short kayak]

If that’s your main ship, with Weyon you must have SS. If they have Sorans and SS and you don’t have SS…..

https://tenor.com/view/game-over-insert-coins-gif-12235828

[floral jasper]

I am not a whale. But I have spent hundreds of $ on this game. Not another penny until arena is open to us who work second shift. Complete bs excluding people based on their work schedule

[short kayak]

They could make it a 24/7 thing. But I’m guessing that’s difficult to do

Better yet. Opps bracket days. So 70`s only have a day. 65-69, etc

[floral jasper]

They think limited hours increases participation. Problem really is it's not fun. Match making suks. No lvl locks sux. Honestly no one in my 96 member alliance wants to participate. As is it's really not fun. It rewards a few. Discriminates against working folk. And as time goes by the few into it have grown unbeatable with the arena only pvp favors. It's a terrible game feature really.

[short kayak]

It’s probably server related

More participation if more time. No brainer imo

[floral jasper]

In trying to increase participation Scopely really just made it a very exclusive club of a few who like pvp and can play during a very limited window. Those few benefit greatly. The rest of us at this point are out of that feature for good. Forced inclusion always equals forced exclusion.

My personal opinion is that it should be a 24 hour event, but once you enter you are limited to 4 or 6 hours

[short kayak]

I don’t care about crashing into 70`s. A few arenas = a few pulls a week. My ego is definitely in check

Costs me nothing but 30 minutes of time🤷🏻‍♂️

[floral jasper]

I just want silver III LOL. but my shift ends 30 minutes before event ends

Tonight I left work early but still cant get outta bronze cause everyone has all the arena favors now and I'm way overpowered even by smaller ships I could beat in normal pvp

They have 1000% arena buffs I just can't compete with

[short kayak]

As long as you can go toe to toe with players in your range regardless of outcome, it’s a win imo. Gotta just not sweat that bigger player who whomps you. It’s like….what can you do🤷🏻‍♂️

[floral jasper]

Yeah but I can't get outta bronze. I'll join and not try if I just want credits. I want silver III

[short kayak]

I’m 69 stuck at gold 3. All I face is 70`s. It is what it is