⭐┃nospoilers_general

[dire dagger]

That bitch don’t work

[wise night]

hey guys, need a mod that adds just 5 to 10 kg to carry weight. Also that works with better ballistics mod and doesn't break mutant looting option

[lapis surge]

What did they update

[lapis surge]

I swear u can just get liek an artifact that does that

No need for mods

[placid spade]

Did the artifacts in your suit not solving the weight problem enough? Just thinking, Im capable of 115kg, what do you want to carry alltogether??

[safe badge]

❤️

Look like I wont get a new car

[magic coyote]

Nothing

[tacit oracle]

wild that some people are still here just hating on the game like 8 months later

on the one hand it's kinda admirable, on the other, man you don't have a lot going on in your life huh

[dire dagger]

We hate because we want the game to improve

[tacit oracle]

not talking about you

[dire dagger]

When it improves we will stop hating

[tacit oracle]

people who are actually capable of criticism I don't really have a problem with

I mean I don't have a problem with anyone, just kinda sad that there's people who for the better part of a year seem to just frequently be like "graa this game shit"

gotta be tough that something you hate so much lives rent free in your head day in and day out

[dire dagger]

My day isn’t full filled with out my daily glass of hateraid

[safe badge]

Stop hating, send love ❤️

[dire dagger]

Love for my fellow chatters hating on the game

[thick wolf]

Give us something, Mol1t!

[rapid warren]

MOL1111TTTT GIVE US ANYTHING OR LET CHILD SACRIFICES BEGIN

[hallow lichen]

How much of the four stalker games am I missing out on because I don’t speak Russian? People having conversations etc

[tacit oracle]

Stalker games take place in ukraine. At least in stalker 2 the dub is in ukranian

the reply is however, not much, because most of this audio is subtitled (and translated, if playing with english subtitles)

[hallow lichen]

Oh I haven’t been running with subtitles

[tacit oracle]

I think the only bit of spoken dialogue that is only in ukranian and not translated (at least in the original releases) is the ||wish granter|| voice lines at the very end of SoC; but I'm not huge on the original trilogy so I'm probably wrong

[hallow lichen]

Also why do so many bandits spawn near Agroprom in SoC

They’ve genuinely piled up near that big buildings entrance, don’t the bodies ever despawn?

[terse bane]

Not much, in the trilogy there's "campfire dialogues" in russian that don't have an dub to other languages.
and not much more, just that and perhaps a couple things more, like some "combat dialogues".

[hallow lichen]

Oh well, they add a lot to the game imo but they aren’t story important so it’s fine

[civic tinsel]

why hasnt there been any new mods lately for console?

[coarse sparrow]

I think they are subject to manual approval from GSC

[glad sierra]

hi everyone, did they add shader compilation skip to stealth 2?

[tacit oracle]

yeah, a while back

you can esc out of the compilation now

[hallow lichen]

are mods really necessary?

im running unmodded right now and im kind of hoping its not needed because idk how well linux modding for this game could be

[tacit oracle]

I mean they improve the game between "a little" and "holy shit", depending on how much you wanna push it

[hallow lichen]

improve? as in performance or qol? like being able to wait to a certain time etc

[tacit oracle]

not much performance wise honestly

[hallow lichen]

i mean, im already getting 400fps so performance isnt an issue 😆

[tacit oracle]

but for example there's one that translates the graffitti into english, which is huge

[hallow lichen]

i did have two crashes within three minutes

but thats fine, it was something weird thats not super repeatable, i was looting a bandage whilst being shot at

[tacit oracle]

stalker unlimited for example revamps a lot of the stash and gear system so resources are more scarce, which is one of the biggest gripes I have with s2 in general

[hallow lichen]

id like to experience the game how the devs meant it to be before i start improving it

[tacit oracle]

if you don't dislike the game then that's fair.

[hallow lichen]

its been alright, im a little lost story wise but i think im picking it up

ive just found streloks stash so i need to find this guy named ghost? I'm guessing Strelok went further north, I need to get some documents from a lab in the east

but about the background of the lore im not too certain, i know there was a second chernobyl explosion but idk why its spawning all these artefacts and anomolies

[lucid pagoda]

maybe not necessary but spend enough time in the game and you'll start to want more out of it

[hallow lichen]

thats true, its only my first playthrough though. but from my time with fallout i know that without mods theres only so much i can play (except fallout new vegas actually, i just use performance mods)

16 hours playing the game idk how people have hundreds of hours, mods must be good because at a certain point you've explored every inch of the map

[tacit oracle]

the original trilogy has a huge mod scene that basically turns the games into free roam milsim single player games

with radial quests and all that, all underpinned by the reputation system and a-life systems

in 2 it's not as crazy yet, but oxa prototype and a free play mod is already a step in the direction of gamma et al.

[hallow lichen]

where do people find mods? i couldnt really find any except like two on moddb

[tacit oracle]

for the og trilogy? it's mostly on moddb yes, though maybe there's a nexus now

[lucid pagoda]

It's about the atmosphere for many, just existing in the world is an ongoing experience more rewarding with the right mods

[hallow lichen]

the nexus was scarce

[tacit oracle]

anomaly has its own page and nexus

[hallow lichen]

mods can be ran directly from the files right? any windows only launcher could cause issues (modding fnv took hours to get the launcher running)

[tacit oracle]

(anomaly is like, the biggest mod base in the og trilogy, I think gamma is a submod of anomaly)

again, this is the stalker 2 channel but if you're interested in modding stalker 1 there's both the dedicated channel in this discord to begin with, but also dedicated og trilogy modding discords

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications and #⭐┃trilogy-general

[hallow lichen]

trilogy discussion dead rn 💔 and i just typed stalker in the add a server thing and got here

[tacit oracle]

they are understandably quieter than the stalker 2 channel yes

[hallow lichen]

i thought people didn't like stalker 2 though

[tacit oracle]

plenty of people don't

[bold oxide]

im gunna spend so many hours of my life for my new thing im doing im like 2% done with

collecting every artifact that isnt arch or quest bound... which is like over 40 i think...

[celest blaze]

people are waiting for the game they were originally promised

[rancid flume]

I like Stalker 2

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/very-good-thanks-king-heavy-tf2-pootis-engage-extreme-thumb-up-gif-17761312704113115303

[patent mortar]

Oh today is going to be a good day alright.

[placid spade]

Thank you, Herrr doctor^^

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-tf2-team-fortress-healer-eyebrows-gif-2309690009988645855

[placid spade]

Thats also a cool game, but suspended it longer time ago

[civic tinsel]

why havent any new mods been uploaded for a while?

[short oak]

Hey friends! Does anybody knows any news about patch 1.6 and Q3 roadmap?

[tacit oracle]

no

[sly matrix]

Still in front of us on this particular time-line

[mellow yew]

welp, game crashes randomly

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x000002d72d1da058

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does this on certain saves, but the most bizarre thing is that if I roll back some earlier manual saves (which for some reason do actually load) and then once the game is actually loaded I go and load the very same saves that were crashing earlier, it works

[tacit oracle]

probably mod related

I'd try disabling whatever you have that needs ue4ss and see if the crashes reproduce, since it's mentioned in the crash report to begin with

[mellow yew]

tried that already. I only have OXA Prototype (added this on the very last run https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7?tab=files&file_id=9193 because looking for this error had someone link it as a possible fix), and I tried a vanilla save and it was also crashing

[coarse sparrow]

guys, I am afraid to ask, but we almost at the half of Q3 and no roadmap

[weary token]

yeah, such a shame. They really couldn't figure out whats their plan for this quarter?

[tacit oracle]

truly tragic

[urban basin]

Lmao

[hollow pelican]

Lets GO

[feral apex]

so ready for this to drop on ps5 pro

[hollow pelican]

Mod related had same problem few days back uninstalled that mod ran again it ran

[urban basin]

Stashes rework

[hollow pelican]

Try to go to paks and dont unisntall 118 gb and 2gb+ folder but uninstall small small files if u cant find which mod and then press repair on steam or xbox @mellow yew will work like charm

[onyx dock]

Not even an hour later lol, probably the closest we'll get to one

[sullen vessel]

Why not upgrading to unreal 5.6? Weird

[safe shard]

don't worry guys maybe they will finish the game next year

[split flare]

Are we just not getting multi-player now? That was like half the reason I bought it

[onyx dock]

Probably would require a lot more work than this if I had to guess, though I also wouldn't be surprised if they had already started upgrading to 5.5.4 at the time 5.6 released

[surreal mortar]

Roadmap announced, yay!

[sullen vessel]

Apparently the latest version of Unreal Engine 5 has much better performance with open worlds. Is the perfect moment to bring the game to this version. Oh well

[nimble cipher]

fuckus has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[onyx dock]

Well they probably wanna get the base game working first as much as possible, multiplayer at this stage would be a whole other variable to just throw in there. Though considering it's probably just some PvP modes they probably would rather focus on the main singleplayer for the game first

[safe shard]

lol can't say a bad word in a chat about a game with drinking, stealing, and murdering

why would you buy stalker 2 for what will most likely just be the same terrible pvp they made before

if you want to play co-op stalker then go play the xrmpe mod for CoP

way better game than S2 anyway

[tacit oracle]

there's apparently a multiplayer mod floating around

[eager cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/great-news-gif-5295238562702918496

[tacit oracle]

you could try that (can't vouch for if/how it works)

[urban basin]

That is crazy

[tacit oracle]

I honestly wouldn't expect gsc to pull even half that list in less than 4 months but hey, we'll see

[safe shard]

x-ray multiplayer extension mod for CoP works great. Only annoying thing is the host has to open ports, or host via some tunnel service.

[onyx dock]

I heard that it was better in areas though the biggest improvements talked about were for 5.7, 5.6 is an improvement for sure but might not be worth it compared to the amount of things it could break, especially with where the current state of the game is

[tacit oracle]

ue 5.5 is already like, spectacularly good news

[onyx dock]

What version is the game on right now?

[tacit oracle]

so good in fact that I'm thinking stopping this playthrough and waiting until that to continue playing

[tacit oracle]

game right now works on a custom fork of 5.1, which is why it's performance is so abysmal

[urban basin]

.1 iirc

[coarse sparrow]

what do you mean

[onyx dock]

In announcements

[onyx dock]

Ah that would make sense

[tacit oracle]

if the performance gains are anywhere close to what nightingale saw, it basically means being able to actually run the game at 60 fps with anything below at 5800x3d

[thick wolf]

GSC

[clear elm]

They were in the process of upgrading before 5.6 came out

[coarse sparrow]

Our main mission in the near future is upgrading the game to Unreal Engine 5.5.4. This will bring new features and tools to make the Zone an even better place, but more importantly — bringing the latest Unreal Engine 5 optimizations will lead to better stability and performance.

is this the truth?

will it really run better on current gen?

[graceful hill]

engine upgraded is huge, totally unexpected!

[urban basin]

It should

[clear elm]

"@grok is this true?"

[clear elm]

They were talking about it even before release

[clear elm]

It should run better

[hollow citrus]

I'm not a dev, but from my understanding there has been a lot of optimizations in later UE versions. Idk how that translates to actual game performance

main performance hog right now seems to be NPC AI

[clear elm]

It's not going to be a massive important, but it is still one nonetheless

Hopefully we can get hardware rt after the engine update

[lime yew]

I just wanted to say thanks @azure nimbus for adding the mod browser for the xbox app. I've been hesitant on buying the game on steam as well since I have over 200+ hours on the xbox app.

[civic prairie]

I've bought Stalker 2 a few months ago and been waiting on updates to start playing, is 1.6 patch good enough or what they are brining in with the roadmap is worth the wait?

[analog helm]

to my understanding hardware-accelerated Lumen becomes viable only at 5.6

[onyx dock]

Well apparently the game is currently on 5.1, so jumping to 5.5.4 should help I'd hope

[lime yew]

It's fun for me, and with the continued support its only going to get better.

[coarse sparrow]

okay, thanks

seems like a big jump tbf

[onyx dock]

It is definitely a big jump, these versions are around 2-3 years apart

[tacit oracle]

from other games that have done similar ports, the performance gains are absolutely spectacular

it's not that 5.1 is old, it's that it's shit and old

[onyx dock]

Any other games to compare it to with the jump?

[tacit oracle]

nightingale ran like aggressive ass on launch, and it was 5.0 or 5.1

now it runs incredible (ported to 5.4 iirc)

[onyx dock]

Well then this is excitin, though only time will tell I suppose

[tacit oracle]

of course it's no guarantee, but I would expect a sizeable improvement on performance just off how much more optimized the lighting system is

[onyx dock]

Yeah shouldn't set high expectations or anything, but at the very least if done right it should be noticeably better

[turbid karma]

Performance differences depend on the game I expect a 10% improvement

[tacit oracle]

I would expect, no kidding, about double the FPS in hubs and maybe 20 extra FPS baseline across all current benchmarks

which sounds like a lot if you don't consider that the game right now runs like butt

[coarse sparrow]

aye

as someone playing on launch day, I can be a witness

[thick wolf]

Ah, back in the day when stalkers would walk around while pissing

And aiming with a controller was locked in only 8 directions

[keen bone]

oh my god I was not in a million years expecting an engine update I thought that'd be way too much work

holy heck

that's gonna give S2 so much opportunity to have way better A-Life and NPC spawn counts once the engine update improves stability and performance 🤤

[hollow citrus]

im wondering if we get a patch before december 🤔

[tacit oracle]

I mean we'll get a patch for sure

I honestly wouldn't expect half the announced updates before the end of the year, but we'll surely get some of them.

[clear elm]

I feel like your expectations are a bit high

Especially for hub performance

[keen bone]

GSC have non-stop dropped major patches regularly since release, I don't see why they would stop. Though there may be a bit of a pause for now as they work on this engine update. I'm still floored they're doing that at all

[tacit oracle]

depends how the game is made but I've seen similar gains on nightingale firsthand.

[left pagoda]

Hey guys does it matter from who I will get to know about clear sky?

[tacit oracle]

it all depends though yeah, and yeah, my expectations are on the optimistic side.

[clear elm]

That game probably also had a bunch of new optimisations done alongside the new engine update

[left pagoda]

Its from quest to find a pathfinder

[keen bone]

maybe they're high, but this video showed UE 5.6 does have absolutely huge performance gains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOb4b1Y-Mw8

15-20% alone just updating the engine and I imagine GSC will take that as a chance to again tackle optimization/performance overall for S2 specifically

[clear elm]

That's for 5.6

[keen bone]

yeah m'bad

meant 5.6 *

[clear elm]

The game is being updated to 5.5.4

Although, we could see a similar jump or more because it is on a much older version than 5.4

[keen bone]

yeah from what I can see on Reddit, supposedly S2 is running on a customised 5.1

[tacit oracle]

I'm still being wildly optimistic about being able to run this game at 60fps on an am4 rig.

[keen bone]

so UE engine version jumping up .4 versions, I imagine that'll be a significant improvement

[hollow citrus]

im nearly there witha 5800x3d. Only offenders really are busy hubs like rostok

[tawny comet]

What are the chances we see the spawn bubble increase to 150m-200m after engine update?

[tacit oracle]

I meant with anything below the absolute bleeding edge that socket can afford but yeah

[keen bone]

it feels like to me they have prioritized the engine upgrade directly to help with the A-Life situation given A-Life is right after the engine update

like - see how they listed Binoculars and NVGs? They won't be particularly cool or fun to use if they just make you see enemies popping in the distance. Unless... they are also going to fix spawn distance

[tacit oracle]

I mean it is a huge undertaking but it had to be done. Technically speaking, it is an anchor around this game's neck.

[keen bone]

sure, I just figured they'd be like 'can't do that too much work'

very very pleasently surprised they can, in fact, do that. I honestly feel like consoles are holding them back too because they have to make sure they have all these new features whilst running well across all platforms

if they could develop for PC only, I think it'd be a very different story

[tacit oracle]

they should have held back on the announcement and just dropped it all casual like

[keen bone]

maybe they're trying to get the engine update done for PS5 launch?

[keen bone]

tbh I feel like they've been a bit radio silent on updates/taken longer than usual so I think it was just right timing

[tacit oracle]

I wouldn't be surprised that they would have already working on 5.5 since the ps5 announcement yeah

[keen bone]

I'm praying for 5.6, 5.6 in itself has huge performance gains idk why they wouldn't just jump to that if they're doing a full blown engine upgrade already

but maybe not, I work in IT I know what a pain system upgrades can be

even going from Obsolete Version to Slightly Less Obsolete Version can be difficult

[hollow citrus]

its because they were probably already working on it before the announcement. Announcement was probably delayed because they were still scoping out the upgrade to see if it was feasible for this year

[wise geyser]

I used to pray for times likes this…

[hallow lichen]

does anyone have the full artwork for stalker soc's banner? its the green one with the stalker holding a rifle

if anyone does, please dm it to me i cant find it online

[twin thistle]

A roadmap. A roadmap has been released. In the year of our Lord 2025.

We are truly blessed by the Monolith

[coarse sparrow]

how much gain are we talking about

[twin thistle]

it's like going from benching 225 lbs to 260 lbs

[hollow citrus]

huge gains bro

[twin thistle]

make sure to drink your pre-STALKER shake

[coarse sparrow]

I sure hope they are there xd, hug dev effort for +5% does not make sense

[twin thistle]

I would think newer UE5 also just expands their dev toolkit to add more refinements and whatnot

the version they were on before was a hot-trash dumpster fire

[reef raptor]

I was wondering "wait... why not 5.6? why 5.5.4...." after realizing that 5.6 is the latest version thinking 5.5.4 was the latest

[tacit oracle]

they've probably been working on the port over for a while now

[dire dagger]

Have you ever heard of portma

[tacit oracle]

they are targeting a 5.5.4 release before the end of the year among a buttload more updates so I would bet they're already pretty advanced on the porting

[tacit oracle]

only heard of portdeez

[analog helm]

5.6 is effectively the bleeding edge - the game already have enough bugs and instability to bring even more in.
There is a good reason 5.5.4 has .4 at the end

[dire dagger]

[analog helm]

the scope of work has to be at limited if they indeed want to hit the milestones they set

[reef raptor]

ah

[tacit oracle]

actual acceptable performance within 3 months would be craycray imma be honest

[keen bone]

It is probable they have been considering an engine update and began putting the work in for it some time ago to be fair

I think S2 originally began on UE4 even before porting to 5

I'll give em some slack on that

[twin thistle]

I am really mad I laughed

[keen bone]

Maybe they could update to 5.6 later on who knows

[tacit oracle]

yeahh they ditched 4 for a custom fork of 5.1 of all things

[twin thistle]

S2 getting the No Man's Sky treatment would be beautiful

[keen bone]

I mean it already is, they've patched it non-stop since release, DLCs + multiplayer on the way, that huge roadmap

We're already witnessing a NMS treatment, they've consistently stuck with their word of updating + responding to player feedback since launch

[tacit oracle]

it's also to be considered the circumstances of the game's development and release

[twin thistle]

Dunno if I'd go that far, NMS is literally unrecognizable from what it came out as, but yeah, S2 has improved a ton

And that's factoring in like a decade of work on NMS

S2 has just started really in its postlaunch building phases

[tacit oracle]

there's a ton of things in s2 that are the way they are due to the uh... exceptional circumstances happening during the later part of its development

[tacit oracle]

like, the alife situation has been admitted by gsc being like "yeah none of this works so let's nix it up to wherever it does"

[twin thistle]

ALIFE MENTIONED TIME TO RANT

[mellow yew]

Not sure I follow the comment about the 118 and 2gb folder, could you clarify? Thanks in advance

[grizzled kraken]

Hi, guys. Have anyone met issue with 20 fps with CPU and GPU underloaded not more than 30-35%?

[twin thistle]

I just hope I get the floating artifact lamp edition before I die

[tacit oracle]

If you are referring to that happening on hubs then yeah, hubs in particular are very cpu heavy.

[grizzled kraken]

No, lesser zone. And it's not about being CPU heavy, it's about CPU being barely loaded.

[tacit oracle]

oh okay I reread it, you are 30% ish on both

[unreal raptor]

Wait. Is this the unreal update everyone was saying was not going to happen?

[vale depot]

ig i wasted money since ive bought 9800x3d just for stalker 2 since anything below that and game runs very badly cuz of 5.4 switch it will be abit easier on cpu likely

[grizzled kraken]

I feel a little irritated. Bought on release, waited for 9 months till "tweaks and fixes", downloaded again....and it's not good yet.

[tacit oracle]

It is a massive undertaking and something I would not blame anyone thinking the devs wouldn't bother with.

but, looks like it's happening

[vale depot]

well the game is just unplayable for 95% of people so kinda have to

[vale depot]

not rlly its cpu heavy 5800x3d compared to 9800x3d is like double the performance also no game uses 100% of a cpu that's 6 cores or higher

[grizzled kraken]

not true. Veilguard rapes CPU till TJMax

[tacit oracle]

yeah yeah but he has light loads on both and really bad fps

[thin parcel]

I hate how the game released in Early Access like this but acted like it was a full release.

[tacit oracle]

I misread his initial statement, thought he said he was light on gpu only

[grizzled kraken]

no, both

CPU bound would be understandable at least

[vale depot]

gpu usage is the problem and u can fix that by getting either 7800x3d 9800x3d or any top 3 cpus or wait till 5.4

cuz gpu usage is low only because cpu cant rlly do anything

[tacit oracle]

in the case of both I have no idea what could be the problem tbh

my game alternates between being cpu bound and gpu bound lmao

can't catch a break

[vale depot]

for me it was almost always cpu bound and i had 5800x3d which was never bound in any game i played

[grizzled kraken]

Well, I guess it's wrong phase of the moon then

[vale depot]

still doesnt run that great but at least it's over 50 fps now

[tacit oracle]

yeah 5800x3d can kinda cut it but otherwise game can't reach 60 on an am4

[vale depot]

yea which is sad even grayzone warfare runs better which has more detail minus the npc part

[tacit oracle]

ue5.1 was a very very bad time to develop a game tbh

[vale depot]

yea i think grayzone uses newer ue idk which one tho

[hazy helm]

you did not do a good job of praying

[tacit oracle]

whichever it is, they want to upgrade it to 5.6 by looking at the news

[vale depot]

also weird thing is how gsc hasnt taken down mods and modpacks like anomaly eft gamma etc since theyre including base game assets and alot of gameplay features from paid games for free within their packs

its a good thing but idk most studios would do it cuz loss of income

[tacit oracle]

the original stalker games were in a kinda fucky place copyright wise as far as I understand it

[vale depot]

ah

[tacit oracle]

idk where it sits now that they've rereleased the original trilogy though.

[vale depot]

its definition of piracy but they seem to be fine w it which is a very good thing ofc but also every other team would not let those mods exist

[tacit oracle]

but the original gsc closed down after releasing the stalker trilogy and was kinda reformed to make 2

[vale depot]

but then alot of ppl probs got exposed to stalker IP through those free experiences

[hazy helm]

mods like these are within GSCs modding guidelines
however yes Anomaly and Gamma should be removed bc they are bad

[vale depot]

probs woudnt be a good thing since people wont be too happy, its been normalised for ages

[vale depot]

they should just require u to have purchased previous 3 games removing em is gonna do no good at all and if anything ppl will iust reviewbomb cuz anomaly mods arent exactly small especially gamma having 100 of thousands of people

[hazy helm]

their files should be burned in consecrated fire and their developers lashed until they confess their sins
this is the only way to right the wrongs of the unfaithful

[vale depot]

[mellow yew]

reinstalling it has apparently done the trick

[vale depot]

have mods gotten better since zone kit came out or unofficial mods from nexus are still better that dont use z kit

[tacit oracle]

there's a lot of crossover between workshop, the official page and nexus

[vale depot]

dam

[tacit oracle]

but I don't see much point in not using nexus personally.

[hazy helm]

no, its gotten worse

grim eve

[vale depot]

[terse bane]

just think this:
Since 2012 (Death of GSC🪦 ) there began to be many standalone mods, until there the resurrection of GSC in 2014 by Sergey Grigorovich, and after, until now in the "Maxim Krippa era".
Hundreds of mods on dozens of mod pages, russian, ucranians, english, polish pages, and more, and even the devs take inspirations from some mods, and even GSC had "some ex-modders" in their team [Source:
Stalker 2 developer interview: Console mods confirmed! by Radio Times Gaming, 4:23].
Just don't must there's any EE standalone mod, same case with HoC.

[tacit oracle]

I lowkey wanna stop playing and save myself for the engine update

but I've already clocked in 100 hours in the game and the furthest I've made it is right after ||sircaa|| lmao

kinda need to lock in and at least finish it once

[vale depot]

i c

[terse bane]

gud boy.

[hazy helm]

standalones were a thing even before 2014

[vale depot]

console mods might be mid tho since some games limit mods on pc if they are on console essentially censoring em

[hazy helm]

as I said before standalone mods are supported and protected by GSC under their guidelines, as long as you make it clear its not the OG game and you link the OG

[tacit oracle]

yes but they're console players so who cares

[terse bane]

yes, since 2012-2014 the standalone mods of stalker increased in great quantities.

[hazy helm]

its consoles so they deserved what they got

[vale depot]

yea but shoudnt drag down quality of pc mods

[tacit oracle]

they chose to buy a switch

I'm sorry I don't make the rules

[hazy helm]

the OGs are still on steam, you get them with a purchase of the bad editions
plus all new standalone mods use a bespoke engine derivative of Xray which is allowed under GSCs guidelines

[terse bane]

EE will never have his great OGSE-EE

[hazy helm]

it didnt get dragged down considering the PC Mods dont even use the stock engine anymore

[vale depot]

na but i mean mods that are on console

if they will use modio for console mods pc mods might get worse as a result of that

[hollow citrus]

i dont think that will be the case... skyrim has both console and pc only mods no?

[hazy helm]

the visual skins?
its a good thing, Im afraid a good implementation would be too much for those savages, this way, they can get an inferior version

everybody wins

[vale depot]

[vale depot]

yea but some games chose to have only console mods that are also for pc

and consoles cant rlly do much so pc experience just gets worse

[hollow pelican]

When u go to paks file i once accidentally deleted the whole game , the 118 gb and 2 gb folder are main game asset do not delete them
Stalker 2 contents paks something like that thats where mods are stored

[tacit oracle]

speaking of

I hope mods don't take too big of a hit on the engine swap

[hollow citrus]

im expecting that a lot of them will

[hazy helm]

all mods for ghe old version wont work for the new version this has been happening since the begining

remember

[terse bane]

Point of No Return it's in danger

[hollow pelican]

What they are swapping engine? To which engine

[hazy helm]

delete tour mods before updating

[hazy helm]

from .1 to .5.4

[hollow pelican]

Why not 5.6

Wasnt that best engine

[terse bane]

from UE5.1 GSC to 5.5.4 (GSC tho).

[tacit oracle]

'cause 5.6 just came out

[hazy helm]

bc it came out a month ago, the team was already working on 5.5.4 when 5.6 came out
the road to 5.6 remains open however

[tacit oracle]

they probably have been working on the port for a while, so it's 5.5.4

[hazy helm]

5.5.4

[tacit oracle]

also after the gigantic clusterfuck that was moving from 4 to an untested 5.1, I will be all for gsc never ever taking a gamble on engines ever again

[vale depot]

at that point shouda used roblox to make their game

[tacit oracle]

godot

[vale depot]

atleast it will run over 50 fps on a 2 grand pc

[vale depot]

game maker 🥶 and godot

[hazy helm]

if they used godot half the team would've gone crazy since the engine sucks so much

even worse than ue, if I may

[vale depot]

is 5.4 to 5.6 even a huge jump in performance gain or

[terse bane]

GSC should've release Stalker 2 in 2012 with the plot by Ruslan Didenko, best scenario by far together "HoC without a lot of inconsistences in plot with the trilogy".🙏

[tacit oracle]

templeOS port in godot

[vale depot]

[hazy helm]

5.5 to 5.6, depends

[hazy helm]

godot is too shit for holy C

[vale depot]

also did they say why they didnt update xray engine

and used ue instead

[terse bane]

Epic Games it's the partner of GSC since 2018.

[vale depot]

oh

[tacit oracle]

I mean much as I consider using 5.1 to be an L move, making xray 2 for stalker 2 would not have been a sustainable move

[hazy helm]

bc xray is a engine crom 2007, filled with tech debt, that would require half a decade of a professional team with a clear and concise goal to take it to the new age
it is not worth it

[hollow citrus]

Pure speculation as to why... but its much easier to use something like UE compared to a 10year+ old custom engine. Especially considering its a new dev team, it makes sense to have a normalized engine to work with

[vale depot]

i mean valve was struggling w source while using it for csgo for around a decade

[tacit oracle]

the only reason source was worth it is because it was made by valve

[hollow citrus]

Valve has the experience working with their custom source engine. The current S2 devs do not have experience with x-ray

[tacit oracle]

you can count the games made in source on the fingers of one hand

[vale depot]

makes more sense, i thought the core team is mostly the same from before

[hollow pelican]

Will take a year at least

[terse bane]

and, until early 2022 GSC just had like 30 devs working on stalker 2, apart of that, HoC it's very-very-very ambitious.

[hazy helm]

source , its predecessor and successors has been continuously updated by the same professionals and their students for 30 years
it had a good base to begin with and none of its worst aspects were that bad
Xray is not this

its completely diff

[hollow citrus]

afaik its mostly new devs, with one or two from the old team holding creative/director positions

[vale depot]

ah i c

and ig most devs know ue and unity compared to trying them to use some inhouse engine

[hazy helm]

you could hire actual soft engeniers as opposed to code monkeys but 🤷

[tacit oracle]

ue makes it easy and I'm sure you get economic incentives from epic

[vale depot]

well if ure a somewhat known dev team yea

[hollow citrus]

yes, its just easier. You can try and justify a custom engine but theres a reason not many people do it these days

[hazy helm]

tbf

[terse bane]

in the case of Stalker 2, yes.

[hazy helm]

many ppl get suckered into making their own engine anyways when they choose to use Godot so

[tacit oracle]

right?

[hollow citrus]

theres a reason why CD project red is not using redengine for witcher 4

[vale depot]

idk why cuz that engine was good

[hazy helm]

yea, bc they became american

[tacit oracle]

once you godot you godon't godot back

[hazy helm]

its easier and better to start off from scratch than to try and fork godot

[vale depot]

red engine had everything that seemed good and performance was also good not at launch ofc

[hollow citrus]

redengine was something they built and had to maintain for several years after their initial cp2077 release. Im sure they got incentives by nvidia to do so, but Im guessing they got burnt out from all of it

[vale depot]

yea cp2077 seemed like tech demo for nvidia features

not in a bad way but as in it always got nvidia features very early

[tacit oracle]

redengine was a product of the hype delirium that cdpr needs to constantly generate

[vale depot]

i think only somewhat big team from eu or poland that use their own engine is techland

which i kinda hope they stick w cuz its a good engine

[tacit oracle]

darktide also works in some kinda fucky hipster engine but it's not inhouse

[vale depot]

its forked from some dead engine

they have to update it manually since the engine doesnt get updates anymore helldivers also use darktides engine

[tacit oracle]

and remedy uses northlight too

[vale depot]

idk how they can do their own engine

the team isnt that massive so

also saber / focus games use swarm engine mostly which is kinda fire

[hollow pelican]

The engine update they are planning will be the most ambitious update pulled if coming in 2025

More ambitious than any update they gave so far

It can provide 5-30% performance gain theoretical (5% is for low end graphics card like 1650 and 3050)

If they ever gonna upgrade from 5.5.6 to 5.6 later then it wont take that long due but 5 to 5.6 is a huge jump

[vale depot]

ofc

[tacit oracle]

the important thing is pulling the game off the shit-caked rut that is 5.1

[vale depot]

i would refund my pc parts if i knew this would happen cuz i only spent 700 euro on a pc rebuild cuz of this game mostly

well hd2 and space marine 2 also didnt run that well but still mostly upraded cuz this game wasnt playable 😩

[hollow pelican]

Wait my bad its 5.5.4 i mess up numbers sorry

[tacit oracle]

I've been standing strong but yeah every time I've been attacked by a pack of snorks at 40 fps I won't lie, the idea to spend outrageous amounts of money for better performance has occasionally crossed my mind

[vale depot]

yea well i alr had decent gpu etc but had to rebuild basically the whole pc cuz i was on am4 so needed new board ram cpu etc

[tacit oracle]

I have no doubt in my mind that 5.5 will get the game over the 60 fps barrier for me, at least outside of hubs

[vale depot]

was gonna do it eventually but i never had plans to go with 9800x3d more like 7700x or smth 😂

[hollow pelican]

Valorant recently switched to ue5 and they literally cut down half the size while keeping same performance (but that game graphics are cartoon)

[tacit oracle]

yeah my next upgrade will probably be a prebuit am5 just to try and take advantage of scale production, 'cause it's gonna have to be a full rebuild except for maybe the psu and the case

[vale depot]

yea even outside of hubs ive had aslow as 40 fps if theres aton of enemy ai around me with 4070 5800x3d pc

[hollow pelican]

most important will be that more functions fixed lighting and everything else

[vale depot]

and this is on every type of setting high or low, dlss quality or dlaa etc its all same shit 😂

[hollow pelican]

I get 40 fps on medium rn without frame gen

[tacit oracle]

yeah that's something weird I noticed, settings have really little impact on performance

[vale depot]

ofc no framegen cuz id rather sell my family and move to north korea than use framegen

[hollow pelican]

Also excited about what they said of quest from old friends some zones in this game really feel dead and empty

[tacit oracle]

I used to run all high, succumbed to medium preset, and I mean, I guess someone would be able to tell side by side but

[hollow pelican]

The input delay is insane with frame gen

[vale depot]

yea

[hollow pelican]

And the flickering is annoying as well

[vale depot]

its only ever useful if u get like 100 fps then delay is minimal but id rather just play on 100 fps at that point 😂

[tacit oracle]

framegen should never be used under a solid 70 fps

the fact that some developers are crutching on framegen to just reach 60 is insane to me

[vale depot]

id say min like 80 or 90

[hollow pelican]

I think even above those fps it will give input delay but i have never tried it

[urban basin]

Monhun wilds

[vale depot]

if its a controller based game like forza etc or u play with controller its fine on 60 fps since its harder to feel delay on controller compared to mouse

[tacit oracle]

bullseye

[vale depot]

yea but not too much still woudnt use it for fps games

i use it on forza cuz i cant tell the difference between framegen on and off, but then i also get like 150 fps in forza to begin with so

[hollow pelican]

I think they might also drop hardware ray tracing if they are giving 5.5.4

[vale depot]

good

[hollow pelican]

Hardware ray tracing might optimize cpu load

[vale depot]

thats an easy 50% boost in performance 😂

if they use raster

[urban basin]

I hope so
Lumen kinda goofy looking

[hollow pelican]

It looks obnoxious in sircaa otherwise i dont have problem with it

[vale depot]

if they use hardware well would be abit bad since would have to rely on dlss

[hollow pelican]

Apart from that exposure

[tacit oracle]

I personally hate lumen, but am afraid I'm mostly only familiar with 5.1 lumen

[hollow pelican]

They csn provide option like oblivion remastered

[tacit oracle]

so maybe I'm biased like that

[vale depot]

have rt and raster

[hollow pelican]

Same , but witcher 4 tech demo looked cool as hell

[urban basin]

My game's lighting keeps breaking and turning the sky into a red mess and everything looks orange as if i was outside during an emission

[hollow pelican]

I think traditional baked lighting was best

[vale depot]

lumen is still like experimental tech because of how unoptimized it is yet devs still use it without even an alternative in some cases

[hollow pelican]

Ray tracing and path tracing are also heavy

[vale depot]

should do what kindom come deliverence 2 did having lumen or rt optional and main lighting is rasterised etc

[hollow pelican]

Kcd 2 idk what drugs the devs consumed to make it run that good

[vale depot]

yea should be fully optional

i dont think it shoudnt be used just not forced cuz then 90% of people cant even play the game 😂

[hollow pelican]

That game ran smooth in my pc and its graphics were better than rdr2

[vale depot]

uses ue5 or?

cuz ive seen it and it looks very good 😩

[hollow pelican]

Idk it uses some engine used by crysis 2

[urban basin]

Its not ue5

[vale depot]

oh that probs makes sense then

[urban basin]

Cryengine

[hollow pelican]

Cryengine

[vale depot]

thats still a thing 💀

[hollow pelican]

but the modding support is weak in that game

Not as good as skyrim had u can just add place replace objects

U cant create war like scenario with 400 people or each side lol

[vale depot]

ppl will find a way to mod it

[vale depot]

if thats skyrim idk cuz i never played any of bethesdas games

except doom which doesnt count since thats id software's

and abit of fallout 76 but thats bout it

[hollow pelican]

Someone literally made a game inside skyrim with completely different world its called endreal thats how insane modding is

[vale depot]

[hollow pelican]

And visual remasters combat animations it is literally a game engine now lol

[vale depot]

its like on par with arma mods

[hollow pelican]

yeah definitely probably more than that cuz u can even change lighting

[vale depot]

not minecraft cuz that is just unbeatable no game is gonna be asgood

[vale depot]

u cant do lighting changes in arma?

seems like a very simple thing to do but then im not a modder so

[hollow pelican]

I remember once i downloaded some industry mod in minecraft and didnt understand anything

Lighting change in arma? Im not sure but i think skyrim has more modding capability since u can change even ur hair , bodu proportion its just insane

[vale depot]

ah i c

probs hard to comparte unless ure familiar with arma and skyrim modding since they are so close

[hollow pelican]

If i remember dayZ was just a modded arma 2 then made different game so its also really strong but i dont hear much crazy projects from arma 3 apart from adding new jets and stuff

[vale depot]

yea ig

im only rlly familiar with cod bo3 modding which is very good

[hollow pelican]

Hyped for arma 4 though, arma reforger is already so cool

[vale depot]

but not good to the point where u can make a new game from

[tacit oracle]

arma birthed two of the biggest trends in gaming in the last few years, it's kinda crazy

[vale depot]

ye

[tacit oracle]

first it was dayz, from dayz also developed battle royale games

[vale depot]

that was h1z1 i think

the br version not dayz clone version

[tacit oracle]

and it was also a big hotbed for the milsimmy stuff that eventually developed into extraction games (though you can argue anomaly did coopt into that development)

[hollow pelican]

I never understood why we didnt got any modern dayZ type of survival game with depth of project zomboid

[vale depot]

well if anything 1st br type mode or game was minecraft hunger games

[vale depot]

cuz its very hard t do ofc

[hollow pelican]

Someone had created a trump assasination mod in arma 3 day after it happened

[vale depot]

so far decent attempt ive seen was once human which is kinda ruined cuz of skins etc

[wise geyser]

.

[civic tinsel]

why havent any new mods come out on console in awhile?

[exotic spoke]

new roadmap, but still no news on the multiplayer...

[tacit oracle]

See this is why we shouldn't let the console peasants have mods at all

Now they have a taste of a better life

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/greasestain-woody-dap-up-dapping-toy-story-gif-16829324021208675735

[tardy siren]

Why does this game still play like poop?

Without frame gen

[dire dagger]

Yes but that’s apparently gonna change soon

[worn oar]

Hell yeah

Glad you see what I see now haha

[rapid warren]

THE SHINING WILL COME

[unreal raptor]

You might be the only Stalker waiting for MP

[tacit oracle]

there's a few

[unreal raptor]

For the few not the many

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[dire dagger]

Gsc beating the allegations

[dire dagger]

As it was written

Next there gonna tell me I’ll finally be paid

[sly matrix]

Discord nitro for mods when

[dire dagger]

They will pay us in gift cards

Every month they will give us a 50 dollar steam gift card

[sly matrix]

Idk, if mol1t offers us fifty dollar steam giftcards I'm gonna be skeptical

Dang

Beat me to the joke lol

[grim rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-gif-22622931

Embed failure le sigh

[dire dagger]

Joever

[tiny token]

a copy of SOC, every month

[keen bone]

Have there been any official updates on the multiplayer and single player DLCs? I am absolutely not clamoring for either lol, performance/optimization + base gameplay improvement is much more important right now IMO, just curious if that is still on the backburner

I worry a year from now they'll be like "nvm" about multiplayer like cyberpunk was

I don't think they ever properly tried to do multiplayer in the previous Stalkers so would be v cool to see how they do it. Co-op? General DM/TDM/CoD-style multiplayer? Keen to see what they come up with

[tacit oracle]

there's no mention of multiplayer and probably not going to be co-op

the first trilogy had it as a TDM kinda side mode, probably will be something more akin to that

[keen bone]

looks like it'll be DM/TDM style - https://www.thegamer.com/stalker-2-multiplayer-update/

fair enough really, I get how co-op would kind of ruin the desolate atmosphere they're trying to go for

I'm sure modders will add it anyway even if they don't want to

[tacit oracle]

there's a multiplayer mod that's been out since december

haven't tried it myself but it works, if going by the comments in the github

[static mauve]

while im thristing for story dlc i can see the fact people are straight up hardware banned as an legit issue taking priority.
in a perfect world i would like both implemented in hast.

[tacit oracle]

it's wild to see a developer actually acknowledge when their game runs like ass

I feel like for the last few years now developers try to gaslight their audience when it comes to performance

Wilds needs framegen to reach 60 fps on anything below a 5070ti
Capcom: "have you tried to turn it off and on again?"

"look, we're giving you 9 star quests!"

[static mauve]

i feel its more of a:

feeling pressured to be always better.
looks etc.
you cant shove the prettiest open world in terms of looks imo into the game and then also expect low end hardware to run it well.

i know the lower end is one of the biggest markets but you cant have your cake and eat it too.
not out of the box atleast.

i feel we are running into the old cpu clocking debate: just because it can run 6ghz out of the box doesnt mean its better.

[tacit oracle]

You can make a game that works well on a variety of hardware, but it requires QA and fine tuning.

also I'm not saying they should ensure their software runs on a pentium 2, but right now there's a whole buncha games that require 4 figure gpus to run somewhat acceptably

like, stalker 2 right now can't run 60 fps stable on anything below a 5800x3d

that is not acceptable for a game released on 2025

[static mauve]

TBF, its runs ok on for exsample 3060ti's.
That is what I would consider lowend at this point in time.
Low to medium settings you will hit 60fps most of the time.

and to the cpu, yeah im guilty of that, but x3d gpus are being widely more accessible.
i have no frame of reference there, i only upgraded my gpu personally.

[tacit oracle]

my brother in christ, I'm running a 5060ti and the game cannot keep 60 fps

even on areas where cpu is not a problem, you cannot run this game in medium, 1440p, at a stable 60 on like, 90% of the areas.

[ripe patrol]

It's probably your CPU then. I have a 4070 and I'm running 60fps native on high setting with Ultra+

[static mauve]

in that case idk what to tell you, apprently my x3d did the heavy lifting.

[ripe patrol]

With dlss on quality tho

[tacit oracle]

but this is what I'm talking about when I say performance problems

[ripe patrol]

But no frame Gen

[static mauve]

if yah on intel idk what too tell you, amd made it seem that shoving more cache into your cpu doesnt seem to hard.

[tacit oracle]

like, I'm not saying the game should be guaranteed to run on any computer built in the last 10 years, but it is good to see developers acknowledge when a game needs optimization

[tacit oracle]

I'm on a 5600x

the fact that stalker 2 will drop to 30 fps routinely on hubs regardless of the settings is what I would call "wack-ass performance"

[static mauve]

oof, yeah its a fact that the 3d chache can lift performance by up to 30ish% ignoring cores

[zenith creek]

Yeah it's CPU
I was bound to 40 FPS on a 7900X

[static mauve]

thats not a gme issue thou, thats been a fact for 2-3 years

[tacit oracle]

to me it alternates. Some areas I'm being choked CPU wise, others GPU wise.

regardless, the game runs at an average of maybe 45 fps for me, so I am happy to see that gsc is like "yeah we need to priotitize upping those numbers"

capcom has released a game that can't run well on like 80% of the computers out there and they're like "look! new monster" instead

[static mauve]

if it gives you ANY solice my 5800x3d and 5070 nose dived from 80 non fg to 25 in bossfights.
and my latency is abhorrend

the drops are ESP bad after the PONR

[tacit oracle]

5800x3d is on the edge of what could be considered acceptable performance, but this game still has one hell of a time on anything am4

[static mauve]

the reason i went to that cpu was because i wanted to push am4 to the limit without upgrading.
am4 has one foot in the grave as grim as that sounds

the motherboards mostly suck, and its been dead as a platform for idk 3years?
them rehashing x3d chips to there to squeeze the last bit of life out am4 is not helping

[tacit oracle]

am4 is already two feet two hands and a head inside the grave

I don't want to upgrade because even if I had access to a 5800x3d, it's better value to upgrade to am5 come a year or two from now

will try to hold out until I can get a prebuit once the new generation of cards come out

[static mauve]

i would srsly consider buying a used 57/800x3d in general.
that or hard upgrade to am5.
i will run my 5800 into the f ground personally.

its really just about the chache, the rest is a non issue for now

[tacit oracle]

my point is, it's good that UE5 is getting loads more performance affordability and developers are willing to port their awfully running games over

with ue5.5 and beyond, being able to run a game okay on an am4 is potentially viable again

[static mauve]

given enough games people will HOPEFULLY be able to actually use the engine as they should.
the reason inhouse runs usually better is because they know how to poke it.

im sure given time gsc will get there.

[quaint knoll]

Bro i have r7 5700x3d and i almost upgraded to am5 bcs i tought my cpu is ass...

[dire dagger]

Thing is all am4 v cache cpus are now out of production

They finally turned off the supply

[tacit oracle]

even if am4s were available, I don't think upgrading on an am4 makes sense

I mean if they were like half the price, okay

[dire dagger]

Well used prices for 5700x3d and 5800x3d are now more than a 7800x3d

So it makes little sense now

Not to mention Samsung stopped production of ddr4

[quaint knoll]

Finally? What do you want to say? That 5700x3d is bad?

[dire dagger]

No

I’m saying that because they had kept making them for really long time after am5

[tacit oracle]

it's not bad, but it's discontinued and expensive for what it is

[dire dagger]

It was great when you could buy it

Insanely good value but

[tacit oracle]

and it'll be obsolete sooner rather than later

[dire dagger]

eBay scalpers massive inflated the price making it basically worthless now

[quaint knoll]

Yeah, but when I bought it two months ago, it was $250, and for me, it wasn't worth buying AM5 and DDR5.

[dire dagger]

Sure

[tacit oracle]

If I had the choice to get a 5800x3d for 300 bucks or getting a 9070xt am5 prebuit with like a 7800x3d for 1500, I'm taking the latter.

[dire dagger]

And when it was 250 bux I’d heavily recommend it

[quaint knoll]

In my country its still ~250€

[dire dagger]

Well shit bruh

https://ebay.us/m/MZ8jJC

You can still get it for 250 bux

[tacit oracle]

yeah I can see it for 250ish

still think getting an am5 prebuit is the smarter choice

unless you're 1 grand short, in which case wtf are you doing looking at computers lol

[dire dagger]

Pre built are lame

MAKE IT YOUR SELF

[quaint knoll]

True

[dire dagger]

Go find your self an eBay special motherboard

[tacit oracle]

buy a prebuilt, strip it down, build it again

pc fudd cred intact

still can go fishin' with the boys

tellin' em how I had to wrangle the darn SATA 'round the darn PCI so I could make it by the 20 pin but I gave 'er some elbow grease and managed to bypass the data coagulator

spits on ground

[dire dagger]

Had to change the oil in my pc

Think it’s blown a head gasket cus it’s burning oil

[static mauve]

prebuilds dont make much sense unless your contrained in loose hardware

like gpus back in covid.

[tacit oracle]

make sense in that you can get the whole thing for cheaper

[static mauve]

i would love to know where you get your stuff.
because i personally dont like oem cards

[tacit oracle]

truly tragic

[dire dagger]

In a world with out fb market place or eBay this might be true

[tacit oracle]

I'm still a couple years away from upgrading. When I have to, I will evaluate my choices

[static mauve]

prebuilds NEVER come close to building urself and when it does there is REASONS.

i might aswell have used mayonase as thermal paste when i got my then prebuild 5 years back, wondering how the heck i got 90 degrees.

turns out they might aswell spit on the cpu at that point

[tacit oracle]

but if I had to now, I saw a 7800x3d + 9070xt for 1500€ I'd gladly pay for

[static mauve]

needless to say i also got to exp. the patented am4 stick.
at the time i was less then thrilled.

[clever finch]

I wanna play stalker 2 so bad but I completed the story and I cant load a previous save that isn't from January😭

[dire dagger]

When you pull the cpu out the socket with the cooler

That’s been a problem since 754

[static mauve]

after switching to a bequite dark rock and thermal grizzly i never had that issue again.
my paste was WET even after 2 years service when i considered swapping my mb to a 570

[dire dagger]

It still has happened to me with thermal grizzly

Why I would always twist the Cooler before removing

[static mauve]

my cooler last time was sliding off the cpu.
it was that pristine.
idk what it is but never had issue like that again.
either the cooler, the compound i used or both

the cpu never getting really that hot again probablly also helped

i yet have to hit above 70ish

[dire dagger]

I wish amd would just make a new cpu cooler

Making 939 coolers compatible isn’t doing any favors

[static mauve]

just buy a good one.
dark rocks go for about 80-100 bucks but they are so worth it.
had mine for like 4 years and never looked back.
i get that alot of people have a hard on for water but i personally really enjoy the non concern of sudden pump death

[dire dagger]

The ihs on am5 is flawed due to making it compatible with older coolers

Why delidding drops you like 15c

[clever finch]

I always forgot what the answer is to this question, do you get pinged if you get an answer in #📜┃gsc-answers

[static mauve]

as a am4 peasant i couldnt care less

[dire dagger]

Don’t really matter for me either since I don’t have an overclockable v cache CPUs

But it’s still funny

[static mauve]

v-cache and overclock dont really go into the same sentence, unless they fixed that past the 5k gen.
i remember something around people frying there 5800s over like miniscule overclocks because the stacks choked the chips

[clever finch]

Do y'all think there will be an update where they add the ability to continue playing the game after completing the story or a new game+?

[static mauve]

but that could be hearsay for all i know

[dire dagger]

9800x3d its fixed

By putting the cache below the cpu core

So it doesn’t get blasted with heat

[static mauve]

yah learn from your mistakes aka rules are written in blood or dead silicon in this case
i never had the impulse to overclock my chip because i think its beefy as is

[dire dagger]

You can’t

[static mauve]

but i can understand the appeal of testing the silicon lottery

[dire dagger]

All v cache CPUs before 9000 series are fully locked

[static mauve]

im aware.

[clever finch]

Ya think my cooler for my i5 12600kf could keep a 9800x3d relatively cool? It doesn't go over 55c at full load

[static mauve]

yesno.
if you want to fry your chip you can, just not out of the box, for the mentioned reasons

[static mauve]

you comparing a civic engine to a v12.
its hard to say

[dire dagger]

You need to mod your board

To override software voltage control

[clever finch]

How many 9000 series models are there?

[dire dagger]

A lot

Wait do you mean skus or number made

[static mauve]

unless you dont game go for a x3d.
then the choice between a 5 and a 7 depends on your buget

[clever finch]

I heard the 9800x3d doesn't get hot at all compared to top tier intel cpus

[dire dagger]

It doesn’t

And it’s faster

By a lot

[static mauve]

because intel trys to stay relevant by pumping voltage into its cpus
power = heat

[dire dagger]

Building a new am4 rig is not really worth it due to sky rocketing ddr4 prices

[clever finch]

I think Ill buy a 9800x3d in a few days, I gotta get a new motherboard and ram tho

[static mauve]

i was refering to ryyzen 5 or 7.
not gen.

[dire dagger]

Oh

My bad

[nimble cipher]

daddywoopy123 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dire dagger]

Yah

[clever finch]

I was an intel "fanboy" before but that is no longer the case at all

[dire dagger]

Once v cache dropped it was over

[clever finch]

Intel is buns💩

[dire dagger]

Not to mention zen6 is shaping up to me a monster of a cpu

First Ryzen made on a flagship node

[clever finch]

Why is ddr4 prices going up?😂

[static mauve]

honestlyy perfect choice.
just make sure you pick a cpu that has only full cores, which i beleive this ones does.
amd took after intels homework when they really shouldnt with this e nonsense

[dire dagger]

Samsung ended production

And all the remaining supply dried up

[static mauve]

whatabout hynix?

[dire dagger]

No one cares about them

[clever finch]

Wdym by full cores

[dire dagger]

People only want Samsung

Which was used on basically every ddr4 memory kit remotely worth owning

If you want ddr5 you want Hynix

[clever finch]

I guess I could get sum money for my ram then if someone is dumb enough to buy ddr4, well if their mobo doesn't support DDR5 then fair enough

[static mauve]

tldr:
certained highend chips have cut down cores for multitasking, in gaming those suck because the game doesnt know better which one to chose to use.
that is mostly a r9 concern thou i believe

[dire dagger]

It’s increased by 43 percent on average since production ended

[clever finch]

Like how my intel cpu has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores?

[dire dagger]

Making it more expensive than ddr5

[static mauve]

yes

[dire dagger]

So it’s basically a waste of time

[clever finch]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-great-ok-the-rock-gif-18017054636487826799

[dire dagger]

They are preparing dual v cache ccd CPUs

[clever finch]

Do u have any idea on how much I would get for my i5 12600kf, 2x16gb 3200mhz ddr4 and a gigabyte b750 ddr4 gaming... Whatever its called

[dire dagger]

So a 9990x

[dire dagger]

Considering it’s ddr4 not much cus alder lake ddr4 is total ass

You loose a ton of performance compared to ddr5

[clever finch]

Maybe 250?

[dire dagger]

Idk maybe

Just look on eBay

See what’s selling

[clever finch]

I dont think anybody in my country uses ebay😭

[dire dagger]

Unlucky

[clever finch]

Paying $100 for an i5 12600kf isn't that bad imo

Its pretty decent but it bottlenecks my 5070, that's why in thinking abt getting a 9800x3d

[dire dagger]

You won’t be disappointed

[clever finch]

My wallet will😭

[dire dagger]

I’m just waiting

[clever finch]

Do u play any popular games the relies on ur cpu?

[dire dagger]

Yes

Battlefield 6

It munches my whole 7950x3d

[clever finch]

Lets say I get 200 fps with my i5 12600kf, how much do u recon a 9800x3d will get/improve

[static mauve]

does it matter at that point?
also fg doesnt count

delulu frames dont say jack shit

about your rigs performance

[dire dagger]

In benchmarks the 9800x3d is 30 percent faster than the 14900k in bf6

[dire dagger]

Also why would you want frame gen in a multiplayer game

💀

Erm yes I’d like more input lag please

[static mauve]

people that have no concept about latency just see bigger number better and then complain

[clever finch]

When did I ever mention frame gen

[dire dagger]

Fr

Frame gen is the biggest lie in gaming history

[static mauve]

in light of current release performances if i see more then 120 i assume its anything but native

[dire dagger]

The only time frame gen works is when you don’t need it

[clever finch]

It really ain't that bad, usually less input lag than without any frame gen. Barely takes away quality, depends on the game tho

[dire dagger]

It’s not though

[clever finch]

?

[dire dagger]

Because games can’t accept inputs on generated frames

[static mauve]

honestly fg is more a benchmark flex.
if reflex 2 makes the latency go away i see a great value increase for midrange.
aka 60 users

[dire dagger]

Yah

[clever finch]

If the natural fps is low it will have high input lag and it somehow makes the input lag better, idk why

[dire dagger]

Like If they get inputs to work on generated frames

Then gg I guess

But atm no inputs work on generated frames

[clever finch]

I dont like using ai to get high frames but imma be honest its better than I expected it to be

[static mauve]

no low intial fps make framegen look and feel terrible.
the point of not needing it is that you need native 60 and minimum 40 to use it.
at that point just take the L and use low latency native fps

[dire dagger]

Fsr4 and dlss 4 is fine

Cus the frames are still real

Think fsr4 looks pretty ight on my 9070 xt

[static mauve]

alot of people seem to misunderstand that.
dlss is essentially making your card render on lower resolutions and then scales it back up
mindblowing concept apprently

[dire dagger]

Which I mean

Doesn’t look as good

[static mauve]

the same reason dlaa can cost frames, its 100% screen res.

[dire dagger]

usually

[static mauve]

learn to f read please

im so frustrated at people man

[dire dagger]

Like it’s still a crutch at the end of the day

[static mauve]

usually but honestly so far dlss tends to look better

[dire dagger]

But it at least doesn’t make your gaming experience actively worse

[static mauve]

atleast on alot of games
in the eye of the beholder i guess

[dire dagger]

Stalker 2 is kinda busted in that regard

Anti aliasing seems to be broken

With out some type of upscaling enabled

[static mauve]

UE5 magic.
but its also reflex not working for me.
No matter WHAT I DO the latency in the game is abhorrent like im using fg

i learned to just suffer through it.
if your fps actually dip thou its very noticeble

[dire dagger]

Surprisingly I was getting like 4ms on my 9070 xt

Though I’ve not played in a while

[static mauve]

might be team green drivers.
i rmember not having this issue on release

[dire dagger]

Unless your on 50 series

People been saying the 30 and 40 series drivers are a bit fucked

[static mauve]

i am on 50

[dire dagger]

Though they may have fixed that I’m not sure

[static mauve]

thats the point of my confusion
probably something on my end

just no idea what

[clever finch]

mm no

[static mauve]

mmm yes

[clever finch]

srry I cant play at 40 fps

js an absolute slideshow

[static mauve]

upgrade

[clever finch]

im getting a 9800x3d cuz my curent cpu bottlenecks my gpu

[dire dagger]

My 7950x3d bottle necks me I bf6

Which is wild

I’m still hitting 175 fps though

Frostbite engine generational triumph

[echo gust]

There is some kind of "Silent Hill" mod that reduces draw distance by a lot to save resources and introduces (very good looking) fog that doesn't feel out of place.
Far draw distances have always been a bit of a staple "feature" in Stalker, but if you adapt your playstyle a bit and rely less on far range scopes it's great.

I use the UEVR mod to play Stalker 2 in VR and it totally kills my high end machine, but with some performance mods I managed to reclaim enough frames to make it quite playable. Scopes are complete ass in VR though, so I may as well run the silent hill performance mod to get up to my 90 frames in VR (actually "stable" 45+ frames with quest 3 using the in-headset framegen).

[naive rover]

Y'all I'm out here on a 2070 super and I just suffer to enjoy the game. Some areas I am in the mid 50's, but lordt I hit that high 20's when in certain hubs

[sullen gazelle]

I have rtx3080 and a similar problem usually around 55 fps in 1440p but when i talk to a trader or doctor it tanks down to 15-20fps it could be a memory leak issue or the game takes up too much vram (which we don't have a lot i have 10gb still not enough) to play it on native resolution try turning on dlss and set it on balanced that worked for me

[naive quest]

I used to run on a 3070laptop and in cutscenes istg I got fps in the single digits lmao

[tacit oracle]

Not memory leak. Hub areas are just massively cpu intensive.

When you're out and about you're mostly limited by your gpu, when you get near settlements and bases you're mostly limited by cpu

Fire up something like libre hardware monitor and you can see the shift in loads as you approach one

[coarse sparrow]

is there a performance increase when going from 16 gigas to 32?

[sullen gazelle]

My cpu is ryzen 7 5800x thought it could handle it honestly

Anyhow i dont mind playing with dlss the difference in visuals is barely noticeable and performance gains are huge

[tacit oracle]

the new engine upgrade should bring massive performance gains

keyword "should"

[oak rock]

If people want more guns in new q3 q4 update ,I hope they react too thes message ,and tag devs ,we all agree game is good now ,and they adding more stuff too spice it up,but we need more guns and variaty.i hope people actually tag and react for the games future.

[tacit oracle]

no new weapons announced for the '25 targets #📰┃announcement message

[oak rock]

I know that the reason I asked people too speak up,and let devs know. Adding couple of weapons ain't really doing anything ,for 16h I'm seeing same guns,I said hey ,let me look how many weapons in games and there's isn't many,ffs I have endgame gear early on,we need more guns more variety ,modding can't just keep the game alive ,I absolutely removed the game after 20h because I had enough of seeing same guns over and over ,ward is advanced and they using ak ? Seriously? And monolith?

[sullen gazelle]

Lets hope although seems weird but the more i play the more stable game becomes idk what's up with that

Like the bases where i got 20fps now seem fine theres no drop

[hollow citrus]

happens when talking to npcs? have you tried lowering hair quality?

[nimble cipher]

opiumaniac has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith creek]

I get 60 FPS at 1440p without DLSS which sounds perfectly reasonable until I remember I have a 9900X3D, a 4080, and 48 gigs of RAM

[grim rivet]

If you are going past 16gb combined system memory then yes

If not then no

[coarse sparrow]

I played on release with 16 gigs and game was eating ram like donuts

Upgraded to 32 but never came back to try S2 as I decided to let them patch it out

(I completed the game on like 1.1)

[sullen gazelle]

Damn... You should be able to achieve twice of that performance without sweating

[grim rivet]

Well it’s not going to be a performance upgrade just increasing your capacity unless you also happened to increase the speeds, which at that point in lots of circumstances will be an unnoticeable difference. I remember back when the Ryzen 5000 CPUs came out 3600MHz was kinda the sweet spot but dunno how ram speeds affect performance nowadays

[zenith creek]

I don't really mess with overclock aside from what is officially supported by BIOS
Which for my hardware is 6400MHz for 48 GB kits

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[kind phoenix]

I'm using a Ryzen 7700 and rtx 5070, even at 1080p it's tough to crack 60 FPS is some situations, out in the wilderness it's easily 100+ at native with dlaa, I've just enabled frame gen and locked the output to 120fps, gives me butter smooth gameplay with no stutters and no noticeable impact to fidelity

[last adder]

So basically this game is still unoptimized.

[dire dagger]

Game is gonna be getting a boost in performance soon with the engine change from ue5.1 to ue5.5.4

[coarse sparrow]

that's not great to hear

[celest blaze]

im so pumped

i wonder if we can ditch using framegen and dlss with this new engine i really prefer native

[dire dagger]

Well native looks worse than dlss in current build

[celest blaze]

What thats wack

UE5 SUCKS

[dire dagger]

For what ever reason anti aliasing doesn’t seem to work with out fsr or dlss enabled

[celest blaze]

Thats so strange tbh I can live with dlss but I am excited to see how things will be once they make the switch

[unreal raptor]

this six month roadmap is lacklustre, some of these things are minuscule in comparison to what needs to happen

[last adder]

Will it help my card? I've been getting by on an rtx 3060 6gb.

[rapid warren]

I really wonder will the next update will be engine switch or 1.6 with NVGs, etc?

[dire dagger]

It will help literally everyone

[unreal raptor]

i'd temper your expectations — the fact they are already caveating it might not be in 2025 is not a great sign.

[dire dagger]

Unless your issue is vram related

[sullen gazelle]

True

[dire dagger]

Then your still hosed

[dire dagger]

It typically goes in order so engine update first

[sullen gazelle]

Yea nvidia 30 series seems to suffer from lack of vram

[dire dagger]

If you got a 3060 12 gig though

It will improve your performance

[sullen gazelle]

3080 but 10 vram 😭

[dire dagger]

UNLUCKY

[sullen gazelle]

Fr fr

[dire dagger]

Upgrade to 9070 xt

The grass is greener on the other side

[sullen gazelle]

Was wondering about that i havent heard anything bad about 9070xt

I know it a lot more new than 3080 and that it has new tech but thats it idk how strong it is

[sullen gazelle]

Is it better for real?

[dire dagger]

It crushes my old 3090

By over 30 percent

[sullen gazelle]

Damn... Amd really made it huh

[dire dagger]

I’ve only had a single issue with it so far and it’s like the most niche thing ever

I wanted to play with rom hack on a switch emulator

And specifically on Radeon

A certain critical room in the game
Will load as a black screen

That’s literally it though everything else has been great

[lost elk]

Sounds like autism

Which is part of the zone

[dire dagger]

Well it runs stalker 2 just fine

[sullen gazelle]

If it runs stalker 2 fine its always worth considering

[dire dagger]

And I’m be real the shadow play on Radeon is way better

It never EVER randomly disables its self with out telling you

And always defaults to on

[sullen gazelle]

Considering how expensive new gpus are i can probably choose between thaat and Nvidia 5070 like cmon i don't have 5k euros for a gpu bro

[dire dagger]

Well let me make it easier then

It’s faster than a 5070

[sullen gazelle]

That settles it 😀

Although lets be honest amd always had upper hand in budget gaming

[dire dagger]

Just buy the cheapest one

[sullen gazelle]

Okay okay i got it 😀

[dire dagger]

9070 xts are all roughly the same

You can squeeze a bit more out of the expensive ones but probably not worth it

[sullen gazelle]

Good means cant go wrong with it

[lost elk]

Let me be real with you guys

Also “novice” tag is crazy. I have been here for 6 hours

[zenith creek]

Makes you wonder what the average survival time of a stalker is

[lost elk]

What do you think?

[sullen gazelle]

Depends, sometimes 30 seconds 😂

[celest goblet]

Sucks we won't see 1.6 this month but I guess with the engine upgrade coming it probably makes sense not to rush out tons of updates while it's in the works...

Hoping the 5.5.4 upgrade is out in time for the one year anniversary of release

[lost elk]

Just be happy the game is playable

[sly matrix]

5.5.4 announcement caught me off-guard lol

[zenith creek]

I've been talking with a friend who does UE5 development and they said just going from 5.3 to 5.4 broke a ton of stuff
The plus side was that some things doubled in performance

[kind phoenix]

Seriously cpu bottlenecked :/ hopefully when they update the game engine that will help

[outer laurel]

will we ever get a dlc info?

[outer grove]

Hey does anyone know if someone has made a co-op mod?

[drifting niche]

Why is there no discount for upgrading the edition?

[tacit oracle]

https://stalker2.mp/

haven't tried it, can't say if/how it works.

[outer grove]

tyvm will look into it

[lost elk]

lmao

[drifting niche]

?

[tacit oracle]

'cause there isn't? idk

[zenith creek]

To encourage buying the more expensive version outright which gives GSC more cash now to pay devs to fix more things, probably

[tacit oracle]

he probably means that all editions are 30% off in steam but the upgrade packages aren't

[mystic sigil]

it works?

[tacit oracle]

I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock on it since it's been out for pretty much as long as the game but nobody seems to know about it

but, the site appears to work, the github is up, and I scanned the files with virustotal and it came out (mostly) clean.

[outer grove]

i havnt tried it, seen a lot of people are very skeptical about it, thinking it might be dodgy ect so dont wanna risk it

it was taken off nexus mods which cant be a good sign, if it gets re added ill probs give it a go tho

[mystic sigil]

yeah i wouldnt i searched and no vids on yt is a big no no for me

[outer grove]

ye that was my first red flag lmao

[pale sedge]

can we PLEASE allow Skif to walk in water?! it's annoying to jump in water only to be completely immobile and despite it being ankle or knee deep

[plucky vine]

Wondered the same. Not too happy about it but it supports the devs and i like the game so it is what it is

[coarse sparrow]

there was, you just missed it, it ended like couple of days ago

[errant yacht]

hello guys, are there cross platform saves for stalker 2 between xbox and pc?

[wise geyser]

It literally ended like yesterday

Not even acc this morning I believe

😭😭

[sharp minnow]

use mod

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[worn oar]

[livid adder]

i wish my day is well
society

[languid widget]

if I played the game at launch on XSX (~20ish hours) but now I moved to a high-end-ish PC, then is it worth to buy Stalker 2 ultimate at the moment?

[tiny token]

I'm thinking of upgrading to ultimate for the exclusive weapons, but also the season pass for dlcs

[languid widget]

but in general, did the game improved a lot since the launch?

[kind phoenix]

Better stability, alot less broken but still poorly optimised, very demanding on CPU and GPU

[tacit oracle]

It's basically the same as in vanilla just slightly less buggy

towards the end of the year they are planning on upgrading to unreal engine 5.5, which will probably make massive strides in optimization. They also want to add some more stuff, it's over on #📰┃announcement

that being said, do consider that going from console to PC means you'll now get access to a metric assload of mods that you can improve your game with

so while the game isn't particularly better now, you can make it way better for you, potentially

[steady lantern]

It went from an unplayable mess to a solid mid

[languid widget]

i just checked yt videos, even with 5080 dlss quality there is no 120 fps, so ill wait around a bit

[kind phoenix]

What GPU are you running? I've got a 5070 and an Ryzen 7700, in the hubs I'm still cpu bound and can crack 60 FPS at points, I just enable frame gen and lock it in Nvidia app to 120 FPS, I never see it drop below about 105

[zenith creek]

On a 7900X I was CPU bound to 40 FPS but that was several patches ago

[tacit oracle]

the thing now is that hubs are heavily cpu bound

so you can have a 5090 super ultra mega plus, it won't matter unless you have a kickass processor to go along with it

while out and about I get 55-60 fps on mostly "high" preset with my 5060ti so I would assume 120 fps with framegen is very very realistic for a 5080

however the engine upgrade to 5.5 will probably make it much, much better performing all around, and date's set for 2025, although I have my doubts about it

[languid widget]

rtx 5080, ryzen 9800x3d, i want 4k max with dlss 120 fps, do you notice anything annoying with frame gen?

[kind phoenix]

You maybe lose a tiny bit of detail in the terrain directly in front of you, but it's so minor it's barely worth the mention, and is far outweighed by the smoothness of using frame gen, input latency feels negligible

[languid widget]

thanks! would you wait for the new features they mentioned recently?

[kind phoenix]

I'm gonna keep playing myself, and once they get to a point where the game is drastically improved or different from its current state I'll restart the campaign from scratch, currently I got about 60 hours into the game and I'm not even half way through the story, spent too much time exploring

[tacit oracle]

I'm doing a playthrough myself, want to clear out the game as is, after the upgrade I'll probably do another run with a different set of mods

Sorry for the ping, discord likes to save replies forever

[knotty pawn]

Gotta turn grass saturation down lol. Just a quick random FYI. Just started again after all these updates and I can't even see the ground through all this foliage....

[terse swallow]

woah theyre actually gonna update the UE version for s2, i didnt actually think it would happen

[tacit oracle]

right?

I'm still having trouble believing it lol

hey you
you're finally awake

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[civic tinsel]

whats this new update?

[ebon owl]

hey are there any recommended mods for someone playing stalker 2 for the first time? never played a stalker game before but i see there's mod support in the main menu

[zenith creek]

The mod list is really limited right now because the engine upgrade will definitely break the modding scene
If you get used to playing with mods that can't be uninstalled then you'll just have to start a new game

[tacit oracle]

Yeah, the weather mod is alright and won't change anything drastically, there's also real weapon name mods if you care about that, stuff like that

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/164
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1582?file_id=10555
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/665
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1559
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1450

These above are just qol mods that won't affect gameplay but improve the game. The english translation one in particular is super nice.

The faction id mod has a slightly convoluted installation process but it's super worth it

There's a mutant balance mod I would honestly recommend cause most mutants are BS, but it does disable certain moves and behaviors so maybe play first and then decide, can be dropped in and taken out mid game no problem.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1494

[ebon owl]

Thanks! This sounds perfect for me

[sacred pelican]

gonna play stalker 2 for the first time right now, anything I should know?

[zenith creek]

It does a pretty bad job of explaining the lore at the start
Other than that, nothing I can think of

[sacred pelican]

Rookie or Stalker?

Im going with Rookie

[zenith creek]

Actually yeah I do have one tip: carry a bunch of bandages with you all the time
The standard medkit doesn't help with bleeding, and blood loss will kill you almost as quickly as bullets

[rancid socket]

Around 50 bandages, 30-35 medkits

Any more or less either gets too heavy or insufficient

(Unless you solve the weight problem completely)

[sacred pelican]

thanky ou zelensky

[rancid socket]

Anytime 👍

[sacred pelican]

why is every dude in the game british tho

well whatever

[hexed leaf]

Bruh what are you doing to get through that many meds

[rancid socket]

Bad aim

[hexed leaf]

Fair

[junior turret]

always run son, RUN TO THE BURNT FOREST DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE

[lost elk]

Don’t listen to him

[tacit oracle]

'cause bad VO.

I'm not someone to play in original dubs and I hate having to spend half the cutscenes looking at subtitles, but I vastly recommend the ukranian voices

[tacit oracle]

if you're playing in PC there's a mod that translates all the writing to english, which imo is lowkey essential.

not that you'll miss much if you can't read ukranian but it's super weird that they don't even have a cursor-over translation

[coarse sparrow]

no

[steady lantern]

So are they planning to add multiple variations of binoculars, not just a binocular as a tool?

[hexed leaf]

my man what level of binocular customization are you expecting

[steady lantern]

None lmao. I'm asking because of #📜┃gsc-answers message

[hexed leaf]

...NVG or thermal, that's what I'm betting

adding multiple variants just so you can have a slightly different border around the screen seems a bit redundant