⭐┃nospoilers_general

[static compass]

I do agree that seeing him in person would have been a major wow moment

[lime gull]

... what a chad

[lime gull]

The only reason I can think for it, is that all stuff we've seen takes place pretty early on?

[static compass]

Funny thing is, we saw him before he was "revealed" and no one recognized him

[north violet]

Sure it's realistic, in a large enough city you're very likely to have more than one of those things. Hell, Syracuse, NY has a population of only 148,620 people and has 3 hospitals, over 10 schools within the city itself and bunch more in the suburbs, and a ton of apartment blocks.

[uncut night]

when?

[sonic flax]

In the making of trailers

[lime gull]

I suppose, It just feels way smaller than a real life city outskirts, even then

[uncut night]

oh

[sonic flax]

and deep dive

[static compass]

In the deep dive, he draws the heart on the wall and shoots a couple of guys

[uncut night]

I think they unintentionally spoiled a major plot point with some of those behind the scenes things

[north violet]

I mean, regardless of what those mods call the maps, we're very clearly in the city center in SoC, while in CoP we're very clearly in the city's outskirts.

[worthy lagoon]

@gaunt burrow you do not want me to lore dump you the Girls Frontline/Reverse Collapse lore on you

[sonic flax]

There's obviously some plot point with betraying Strider

I feel like you are going to feel horrible about every choice you make regardless of what you do

[static compass]

I feel like you'll have to choose between Strider and Faust

[uncut night]

Im more specifically talking about the opening of the Come to Me trailer.

[north violet]

Eh, they didn't feel that far off from the city outskirts I've been in. Remember too that Pripyat isn't a gigantic city, it only had a population of just under 50k people when the 1986 meltdown occured.

[lime gull]

Even if in COP we're 'clearly in the city outskirts', I don't know that the game actually tells us it's the outskirts. I think it's told to us to be part of Pripyat city, but we're forced to evacuate it shortly after completing our mission.

[naive fog]

What's y'all's favourite trailer?

[sonic flax]

So much is clear but the question is whether you'll have to pick between Strider and Scar since it seems they are both following the same objective, i.e. stopping SIRCAA and the Ward

[lime gull]

I guess so

[naive fog]

Time of Opportunities gotta be mine

[sonic flax]

Come to Me and Time of Opportunities

[gaunt burrow]

I dunno anything about those 2 games at all. Is it just girls lore or do you want to tell me their lore specifically?

[lime gull]

Mmm, the gameplay trailers are always what do it for me tbh

The cinematic trailers don't really excite me bc I'm always more concerned about how the game itself actually plays than how the story of the game is presented in some short snippets.

[sonic flax]

They excite because they give you glimpses into the story and cutscenes

Though obvs I would love to get a nice 20 min no commentary gameplay trailer before release

[north violet]

The game doesn't explicitly tell you you're in the outskirts no, but you are still within the city boundaries.

I think it's pretty clear just because things are more spread out and there's more open space compared to what we were dealing with in SoC.

[uncut night]

Speculation based on that trailer and the stuff accidentally revealed in behind the scenes videos. ||Is that guy beating everyone up, Isn't Monolith, but actually Noon. Or rather, Someone of Noon, returning to the mind control. there has to be an explanation as to why we are hearing "come to me" again.||

[static compass]

I'd say Time of Opportunities, but I still love the Skif teaser after all this time

[north violet]

World and Locations trailer, hands down.

[worthy lagoon]

The game story is basically a mix of metal gear solid and all

Extreme ptsd

But with anime girl

[sonic flax]

||Wonder if you join Faust you might be able to have the monolith speak again through some shenanigans ||

[lime gull]

There was one, with the Great Swamps & the game dev talking over it

[granite mortar]

Slop mods

[lime gull]

oh duh, no commentary lol...

[gaunt burrow]

Aha

[sonic flax]

Yeah, I know. That's from the deep dive

[uncut night]

a decade of no stalker installments made modders run wild with their own head canon.

thats how things like Western Mercenaries, UNISG, Sin, and the very idea of many factions, which are canonically, complete drivel, came into common usage.

[lime gull]

That's what I'm curious about too, I'm really hoping || we'll get to side with Monolith somehow.||

[sonic flax]

I think it depends on whether we will be able to join Faust or not and what his plans are

Also very fitting name for that character based on what we know about him so far

[lime gull]

||The area they fight in sort of resembles one of the X-labs renovated by SIRCAA, so maybe that is one of the outcomes you get for siding with them?||

[sonic flax]

||It's the same room, where you can see Dalin talk about some procedures for an experiment. Has to be in the SIRCAA base. ||

[lime gull]

Very true... ||I've heard that Faust is an example of one of the 'rival faction leaders' that'll exist in S2. So each faction will have characters w/ opposing ideals that exist within the factions, presumably this means you can support them by offing the current leader or their competition?||

[north violet]

I mean, isn't it implied that at least some of the Mercenary groups have foreign backers? Plus there's also that downed Predator drone we can find in CoP.

Frankly, other governments not having an interest in the Zone would be absurd, and using local mercenaries would let them gather intel without raising too much suspicion.

[gaunt burrow]

Biggest question is who in the end will actually be the lesser evil

[sonic flax]

Isn't it canon that all mercenaries are contracted by outside organisations?

[gaunt burrow]

Nope. Mercs have different clients

Dark Valley mercs had their own task for example, and Hog and his mercs another

[uncut night]

It is. but those mercenary groups got the Tarkov USEC treatment by the community, Treating them like a bunch of Americans there with top end gear. seems to me in the vanilla installments the mercenaries are little more than experienced bandits in uniforms

[sonic flax]

Well, I know that within the zone they get contracted by ecos and so on

[lime gull]

to be fair, the idea of western mercs makes sense to popularize if your a western gamer who wants to immerse themselves in the game. Being a western merc is a lot more believable and easier to step into the role of, then say... a UA loner, when you were raised in a rust belt city lol.

[sonic flax]

but I mean for them to go into the Zone in the first place

[gaunt burrow]

Point stands still. They don't have just 1 contractor

[sonic flax]

Fair enough

[north violet]

got the Tarkov USEC treatment
Oh, like the Evan Royalty/Wendigoon S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fan film?

[granite mortar]

Isnt it all just small tasks that contribute to greater goal?
Or maybe just side tasks

[gaunt burrow]

Honestly a good question but tbh theres very limited info about merc lore in general

[lime gull]

Yeah, I mean aside from the general character flavour stuff... we don't really know what the clash in ideaologies actually is yet. It's easy to make assumptions but I don't think we've heard directly what either/or intend.

[sonic flax]

Also something I am wondering about is wether or not "Dark Stalkers" as a concept will be brought back in HoC

because if done right I always thought it's actually really cool

[uncut night]

thats a very recent example, this has been going on for a while before that though.

if I was going to point to an earlier start it would be the COC mod and what came after it, (Anomaly and Gamma)

[north violet]

Sure, but I don't think there's any sort of ethnicity cut-off when it comes to any in-game factions outside of the Ukrainian military. As far as I know there's nothing in-game stopping a dude from the US coming to the Zone and living there as a Loner or joining up with Freedom.

[north violet]

I'm aware, that's just the one that's most fresh in my mind since it just came out.

[sonic flax]

Which is why the "controversy" surrounding the Shevchenko trader is so stupid, imo

[lime gull]

True but I think people naturally like the idea of being a western merc, it's an easy thing to hype up, espescially if your an irl gun nut or someone who likes to larp tarkov

[gaunt burrow]

In Clear Sky hogs mercs have different dialogues. Some dialogues state that they come into the Zone just to complete their task, but then theres this 1 dialogue implying that some mercs are ex stalkers

[granite mortar]

With CoC people still knew whats going on
Its only with anomaly and its forks when new people started flooding the community and started spreading missinformation

[gaunt burrow]

Give me 1 min i'll get both

[sonic flax]

Which is funny because the Mercs are pretty consistently portrayed as assholes lol

[pure smelt]

How can I preorder collectors edition? Website is not working

[lime gull]

Of course!

[north violet]

The black dude right? Yeah, racists gonna racist. We're in a modern setting, if anything I would expect a lot of diversity in a place like the Zone just because of how many different countries' governments would be interested in the place, let alone individual people deciding to move on in.

[gaunt burrow]

Leshiy's group completed a really important assignment right before the Emission - they found a very rare artifact. We even contacted the client to let him know the goods are on their way, but Leshiy never made it back. We're mercenaries and we got a code - without it we're nothing. A contract must be executed. Period. If we screw up a job that's our reputation down the toilet, and no serious client will ever give us work again! That'd leave us wandering the Zone as stalkers again."

Last line @sonic flax

[sonic flax]

Right yeah. Also a nice "f you" to those people for casually just having a Black Ukrainian dev in the war gaming doc.

[sonic flax]

I see. Completely forgot about that. Thanks.

[lime gull]

Yeah, totally true.

[gaunt burrow]

"I wish I knew something old about it. We're mercenaries, buddy. We go into the Zone to complete a specific mission, and rely on careful planning and outstanding preparation to achieve our objectives." - another dialogue of Hogs mercs

[lime gull]

and if there's western loners in the zone... you know, it's not too far fetched to say that some of those mercs might be western ex-stalkers... 😉

[gaunt burrow]

Which either contradicts the narrative of mercs being ex stalkers or is the case of some mercs coming to the Zone for a mission while others got recruited

[north violet]

It's probably a bit of column A and a bit of column B.

[uncut night]

even if the zone is a cordoned area squeezed between belarus and ukraine, the nature of what the zone is in the world, in 2024 or whatever year game takes place in. it seems perfectly fine that the place is filled with newcomers, both men and women, from all over the world, and with them supplies, technology, weapons, and money flood in to the zone as well.

I mean has anyone looked at the NIICHAZ building? its brand new. And they have an entire PMC of sorts that serves them, protecting them and "peacemaking" in the zone.

and there's basically a UN Task force with a 20 foot wall going around the zone now too.

the zone looks a lot more colonized if you will

[sonic flax]

What do you guys think about the rumor of a truce between Freedom and Duty in HoC?

[gaunt burrow]

What about it tho?

[tulip vapor]

Probably a temporary plot point

[ruby warren]

I'll make sure that truce doesnt last too long

[gaunt burrow]

Doesn't seem something unusual considering that they had truces in trilogy also

[uncut night]

There was a truce. Between Duty and Freedom, Noon, the Ward, and apparentley the IPSF all worked together on an operation in the north I believe the ARG said, and it went horribly.

I forget what it was called now but theres an article on the wiki

[north violet]

Yeah, I don't think CoC added anything that wasn't in the vanilla games, it just moved all of the old maps into CoP.

[uncut night]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Zenith
Result
Total failure of the
operation
Loss of most forces
Loss in trust between factions

[sonic flax]

It's been so long since I played the original trilogy I forgot about previous truces

[north violet]

MISERY, Anomaly, and GAMMA are the mods that added in a lot of fan-fiction.

[uncut night]

Its been ages sicne I played it, but wasn't misery just "Call of pripyat" with 20 extra steps of hard mode?

still had the same story and missions and such

[gaunt burrow]

I'll try to find dialogues, in case I won't be able to do so I'll send screenshots tomorrow

[tulip vapor]

CoC is still a sequel that shoehorns in clear sky

[sonic flax]

Kind of. I think you can consider it the first step on the path to Anomaly and Gamma

[north violet]

Oh, it has a story? I didn't even realize.

[lime gull]

I definitely think that'll be a huge element of S2. I think that's why Zelissya exists now. Cordon got too crowded and people moved to this small little village where there's more intact housing and some distance between threats, I guess. The local zone police (ward) are probably making it easier to live there too.

[sonic flax]

It made them game look very "gritty" and "realistic" and had a crap ton of different new guns and "hardcore" mechanics

[tulip vapor]

Sort of, but it's more the writing for general NPCs

[uncut night]

The ward aren't police though, thats why I said peacemaker, not peacekeeper

[north violet]

Ah. My apologies then, I haven't touched CoC in forever.

[lime gull]

Plus I'm fairly sure COP actually explains that the 'lesser zone' areas are safer than normal now that the brainwasher isn't functional anymore.

[sonic flax]

For all intents and purposes it seems that Ward only has control over the lesser Zone area

[granite mortar]

Wait
I just realized
Factions joining forces to disable generators is plot point from OGSE

[lime gull]

Ahhh, makes sense.

[lime gull]

I mean the devs did say they were inspired by mods...

[sonic flax]

I doubt they have much say over the cement factory or Rostok

[uncut night]

they work for the institute, the only reason they even get involved in stalker politics is to keep the factions from fighting so it doesn't interfere with their employer's facilities.

Duty and Freedom having an ideological war makes it difficult to restart the mad science projects that Nichaaz is trying to work on

[worthy lagoon]

The ARG is canon

[granite mortar]

Yeah but I thought they would get inspired by mods with good writing

[tulip vapor]

Not everything is writing.

[worthy lagoon]

Better OGSE than GAMMA

[granite mortar]

Gamma has writing?

[polar orchid]

wish they would get inspired by mods with mag management

[indigo marsh]

Better goldsphere than ogse

[north violet]

As Gorilla avatar said, it was basically the first step towards mods like Anomaly and Gamma. In fact, I think Anomaly uses Misery as a base, or at least uses a bunch of stuff from it.

But yeah, much harder (unfair and unfun imo), A LOT more guns, more immersive features, etc. Admittedly I did like some of the immersion-intensifying features, but overally I really didn't like it, it just wasn't fun.

[sly matrix]

Crayon

[lime gull]

Both of those places are pretty defensible areas, yeah.

[granite mortar]

Wish you would stop suggesting dogshit features

[sonic flax]

I don't think we know what the cement factory looks like at this point. It's a new area.

[tulip vapor]

CoC -> CoM -> LD -> Anomaly -> Gamma

[lime gull]

We haven't played the game yet, man. There's still time!

[polar orchid]

why so hostile?

[tulip vapor]

That feature was literally in SoC builds lol

[lethal orchid]

Chymo just like that

[lethal orchid]

Yeah and it was pretty trash lol, they cut it for a reason

[north violet]

Gotcha.

CoM = Call of Misery I'm assuming? I also assume that it's just MISERY but put into CoC?

[indigo marsh]

They got cut for a reason

[tulip vapor]

Clearly the inspiration spoken of is the immersive animations

[granite mortar]

No
That was ammo belt

[sonic flax]

Pretty sure Misery just existed for CoP

[tulip vapor]

Call of Misery was a CoC port of Misery

[worthy lagoon]

No

[lethal orchid]

Stalker mostly is though lol, the atmosphere and story are the most important components

[north violet]

Nevermind, Chiff just explained it.

[lethal orchid]

In all honesty the stalker gameplay itself isn't insanely compelling

[tulip vapor]

You'd still get the atmosphere with zero writing.

It's just the cherry on top

[lethal orchid]

Hence why I included story in the sentence lmao

[north violet]

You shut your mouth.

[sly matrix]

HERESY DETECTED

[lethal orchid]

I mean it's fine but its not literally the peak of shooters in terms of shooting

[sonic flax]

Exploration and shooting is fun. It's good.

[tulip vapor]

Literally just go stand in Wild Territory

[lethal orchid]

Oh the exploration too yeah, big component

[polar orchid]

have they even spoke on advancing any of the in game systems? from what i have gathered, some new weapons and weapon modding ability, but not much else, looks like inventory is very similar

[sonic flax]

and from the previews it seems that gunplay in HoC will feel really good

[lethal orchid]

Don't think so really - it's mostly world stuff and general polish

[tulip vapor]

Dialogue is smaller text boxes that are progressed which is much better than the walls of text

[polar orchid]

i hope at least with inventory, i can organise it

[worthy lagoon]

There won't be a magazine system

[north violet]

I don't play these games for the shooting, I play them for the atmosphere, ambience and exploration.

[lethal orchid]

I think anything gameplay-wise they're adding is polish and juice

[sly matrix]

I hope HoC will get a nice and beefy machinegun

[granite mortar]

You wont need too
There arent billion useless items

[polar orchid]

how about the bullet bloom?

[lethal orchid]

Exactly

[north violet]

Also, I actually do like the way the gunplay feels in Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat.

[tulip vapor]

hah burn

[worthy lagoon]

?

[polar orchid]

i like everything laid out nice n neat

[tulip vapor]

Yeah hoarding and sorting is what I do in any game that lets me

[sonic flax]

Well all of that combined with great gunplay leads me to believe that HoC really will turn out to be a milestone

[polar orchid]

its really annoying trying to figure out which one is mine when im carrying 3+ of the same weapon

so being able to set my own gun off to the side would be nice

[worthy lagoon]

What

[north violet]

Yeah, the gunplay in S2 looks like a significant improvment over previous titles while still feeling like S.T.A.L.K.E.R..

[tulip vapor]

Yeah feels half-way between stalker and metro

[sonic flax]

Not only does it look like it but I have heard multiple people, who were able to play the recent preview say it as well.

[polar orchid]

on the inventory screen. it would be cool if i can place items and not have them move, so i can put my own guns off to the side and not mix with the ones im tryna sell

[worthy lagoon]

Ah

[gaunt burrow]

[north violet]

I'll confess, when I was playing it, one of my favorite things to do in MISERY was just sit there and read the text for all of the different items. Couple that with the radio on the Skadovsk and it was just so...cozy.

[tulip vapor]

That would be fine if the basic items hadn't been split into fifty each

with weird icons

[gaunt burrow]

Chymo you ever thought about becoming comedian? @granite mortar

[sonic flax]

Yeah, Misery really paved the way for item bloat in later mods

[granite mortar]

You mean the absurdly long paragraphs that hold zero useful information?

[granite mortar]

Nah
I dont plan on making youtube videos

[spiral talon]

Hey just asking (may be the wrong place to ask sorry) I live in Uk and wanted to preorder ultimate edition. Have I missed my chance?

[worthy lagoon]

#🖤┃s2-pre-order

[north violet]

Hey man, it added to the immersion for me. Like I said, there was a certain coziness I felt while doing that. I spent more time reading item descriptions that actually playing the game with MISERY installed.

[granite mortar]

I sure love when thr goddam glue tube has more lore behind it than majority of tasks

[sonic flax]

Well, actually playing Misery was also - as the name implies - miserable.

[polar orchid]

bullet bloom, like in the original games how bullets are so unreliably inaccurate. i wonder if that will be as frustrating in stalker 2.

[granite mortar]

You mean bullet spread?

[polar orchid]

same thing yeah

[sonic flax]

Exactly

[tulip vapor]

I love that's become the average sentiment

[nimble cipher]

timothy6952 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tulip vapor]

At one point it was everything must be the hardest thing you've ever played

[north violet]

Oh for the love of God, this bot man.

*sigh* Hang on a sec...

[polar orchid]

like a better system would be if you find an old gun it doesnt shoot straight but its more predictable, so you know to aim just slightly left or aim low or whatever

and just dont give me a lot of ammo

so retain the difficulty without making it too much rng with bullets

instead of me wasting the bullets just give me less bullets

[north violet]

Oh yes, the "difficulty" in MISERY was a bunch of unfair and unfun BS, and the progression was needlessly grindy, tedious and drawn out (clearly where Anomaly got the idea from).

Also if you set the NPC sight distance to the "recommended" setting, it would actually break the game; quests could fail because an important NPC decided to start shooting at someone whose left elbow they saw 3 miles away, and by the time they get back the quest fails due to a time limit.

[spiral talon]

Sorry me again I clicked on preorder and just got shown a pic and nothing happened

That’s the last time I’ll mention this

[granite mortar]

Well thats what you fuсking get when you swear in front of Wolf

[granite mortar]

Anomaly is direct continuation of Misery
Its built on the Call of Misery
Except it has more crap, more useless items and bunch of stolen addons for CoC

[polar sail]

So do we know if we will get one last go for the collectors edition physical or devs still silent

[tulip vapor]

Not quite. It's build on Last Day which had toned down the difficulty a little.

[north violet]

Yeah, I played Anomaly for a bit after someone in another Discord server recommended it. Eventually, I unsurprisingly got bored/sick of it and haven't touched it since.

[granite mortar]

It still keeps most of the bull shit tho
Like snorks turning midair just to hit you and boars bring able to attack 4 meters in the air

[spiral talon]

I wanted to get the physical ultimate but can’t seem to find it for sale so I guess we missed it?

[tulip vapor]

Never experienced because never played it vanilla

[granite mortar]

I swear whoever recommends Anomaly has never ever played any other mod

[nimble cipher]

timothy6952 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[north violet]

...

[granite mortar]

Lol
Get fuсking Wolf'd

[glad moss]

blud is at war with Wolf

[north violet]

I did, still had the same BS you had in MISERY.

[tulip vapor]

No, you've just never played it with a big mod list. I know you say about CotZ but I still can't get that to work.

[granite mortar]

Well
Good night stalkerbros

[gaunt burrow]

Gn Chymo bro

[spiral talon]

Gn

[north violet]

Goodnight!

[granite mortar]

I did
If you have to fix a mod with more mods then its not a good mod in the first place
See ya

[indigo marsh]

Gn vro

[north violet]

Okay, so why is Chymo able to swear without Wolf-bot smacking them?

[sonic flax]

I actually enjoy Anomaly for what it's worth

[tulip vapor]

I still don't care how I get the experience I'm looking for so long as I do.

[sonic flax]

Gamma on the other hand..

[tulip vapor]

And people forget that you can customize Gamma heavily, it's modular.

[north violet]

I enjoyed it for a little bit, but eventually I got sick of how much of a grind everything was, how it still had a lot of the same stupid crap from MISERY, etc.

[indigo marsh]

Cuz Chymo had wolf's brother hostage

[tulip vapor]

Yeah, so just use add-ons so it isn't.

[north violet]

So what you're saying is I need to kidnap Wolf and throw him into an anomaly, got it.

"Hey Wolf, come over here! I found this really cool artifact!"

[wraith socket]

I love Perico's alternate names for things. Chymo is Chamoy. No maliciousness meant with alternate names as I don't think English is the primary language for most of the people here.

[north violet]

*sounds of a struggle intensify and eventually a gunshot rings out*

[Wolf has died]
Oops...

[indigo marsh]

It also follows Chamoy's nickname scheme for Rahmi and Crimson. For Rahmi it's ramen and for crimson it's crispy.

[wraith socket]

Yeah, they don't want to copy the original American version in 1995.

[north violet]

Wtf?

[indigo marsh]

Wouldn't it be copying the 1979 movie?

[tulip vapor]

What was even before vga monitors

[north violet]

I'm pretty sure that's what they were actually worried about and what Tejas posted was a joke. That doesn't look like the kidn of game that was made by people who can afford to sue others.

[wraith socket]

I'm joking. The company that did the 1995 Stalker games is dust. (long gone, non-existance)

[north violet]

Yeah see?

[indigo marsh]

👍

[north violet]

Man, imagine getting that thing for Christmas.

Ah crap, brb, bloody nose.

[tulip vapor]

That's some of the worst cover art I've ever seen. The ingame images are infinitely better

[gaunt burrow]

Interesting. Where did you found those Tejas?

[wraith socket]

I own several copies.

[gaunt burrow]

Aha

[lilac lily]

What build is this

[indigo marsh]

Build 0001

[wraith socket]

It's a crappy 2-D scroller that takes place in the desert in the US, I guess. The only thing it has is common is the radiation (see triangle sign) and mutants, and the name of course.

I do not think GSC ever saw this.

[tulip vapor]

"The plot was about trying to find a golden sphere that can grant wishes" huh

[north violet]

Already been said but man, that cover art is terrible. It looks like an educational CD you'd get with an Eyewitness book or something.

[wraith socket]

Yes, pure 1995.

[unkempt sphinx]

So, wtf went wrong here?

[tulip vapor]

https://archive.org/details/Stalker1PathofFire_1020 It's abandonware

[indigo marsh]

Can't believe they copied the plot to goldsphere before goldsphere existed. Smh.

[nimble cipher]

jeruzalemisreal has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tulip vapor]

nuclear power plant disaster causing the zone

[unkempt sphinx]

Wow. Didnt knew this was a SAFE zone. F this

[gaunt burrow]

Wild

[wraith socket]

it's a Bot not a person.

[north violet]

Lol, people getting mad at the automod bot.

[unkempt sphinx]

I sign up for the email service that would notify me when the physical editions would become available. I just read on some random games news site that they are doing another batch cause they sold out.

Wheeeere is my email that tells me they started selling in the first place?! I checked spam filter and everything. I never gotten any emails about it

[north violet]

Probably should float that question over in #📜┃ask-gsc .

[worthy lagoon]

Always check #🖤┃s2-pre-order

[unkempt sphinx]

And check what? The last message was almost 2 years ago in that channel

I filled out the form on the site. As i said. I never got notified they were selling the copies

[polar sail]

It went on sale last night but the website they went through wasn’t even working for it when you purchased it payment goes through then rejects it most of them were botted

[north violet]

I'm heading off for the night, later all.

[gaunt burrow]

Cya

[unkempt sphinx]

Right. And i just bought the ultimate physical edition. A site i never heard off. Juat hoping its not a scam.

Trustpilot reviews go back to 2021, so cant make those up if its a scam.

Would ave been dodgy if all the reviews were just a few weeks old

[spiral talon]

I really wanna get the physical ultimate for the Uk but can’t find it anywhere other than eBay but it’s like £480 on there

[torpid yacht]

rip

trustpilot reviews while not as fakeable as other sites, definitely are.

[tulip vapor]

Wait until after release, you'll find the first batch on the 2nd hand market

[spiral talon]

Reckon prices won’t be as bad?

[tulip vapor]

Might be but at least you'll know it exists

[spiral talon]

Tbf I’d be fine with the collectors edition just wanted the artificial light holder. Cause come on that thing is so sick

[tulip vapor]

I have no idea where I'm gonna put it heh

[spiral talon]

Maybe it will come back to Amazon? It does say on the Amazon page that they’re trying to get it back in stock instead of just unavailable

[spiral talon]

Oh snap did you get one?!?

[tulip vapor]

Yeah spontaneous purchase

[spiral talon]

Oh my god bro that’s so awesome you could go full stalker with that ahah

BRB going to decontaminate from the wastes (shower)

[torpid yacht]

What's the dimensions of it?

[rose moth]

i am once again looking for a standalone mod that ISNT ANOMALY

[tulip vapor]

The artefact part looks to be the same height as the steelbook

[rose moth]

any suggestions?

[torpid yacht]

And how tall is the steelbook? Because steelbooks vary in size depending on the source

[tulip vapor]

shrug https://finalbossbundle.com/cdn/shop/files/S2_Ultimate.jpg

[dense hatch]

standalone as in a new story or not relying on the games for owning

also check the pinned list in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[rose moth]

not relying on games because i am a brokie

[tulip vapor]

Lost Alpha is the only other standalone one I know of.

[dense hatch]

again, check the list in pinned

there's a ton of standalone ones

also a lot of ones like lost alpha

[rose moth]

what about goldsphere? is it any good?

[dense hatch]

[rose moth]

[torpid yacht]

Also does anyone know if you can get the ultimate physical edition in Canada?

[rose moth]

I WANT GIF PERMS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[naive fog]

You could've applied for mod/helper

[rose moth]

how

[naive fog]

There was a whole thing in announcements

[rose moth]

damn

[naive fog]

Applications

[pseudo rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504592685428899851/1281678654287646742/53d0e607-e607-48f8-ba3d-5ef6d937fe4d.gif

[rose moth]

is it over?

[naive fog]

#📰┃announcement message

[lime gull]

who do you think is better looking, Skidan or Sidorovich?

[naive fog]

Idk

[rose moth]

i will apply

[indigo marsh]

Yeah. It's peak.

[rose moth]

maybe i will be helper tomorrow

[rose moth]

will try it out

[wraith socket]

@worthy lagoon

[pseudo rivet]

Didn't ask, so it's not legit

Everyone is still failing to "deez nuts" me legitimately

[indigo marsh]

Ogse version has a better atmosphere but is more buggy and more prone to save corruption.
OGSR has less soul but has less save corruption and is more stable.

[wraith socket]

I'm just replying with a gif to your gif. I can find another?

[pseudo rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504592685428899851/1281678654287646742/53d0e607-e607-48f8-ba3d-5ef6d937fe4d.gif

[indigo marsh]

Definitely Sid. And plus Skidan is ||kinda a Nazi so...||

[pseudo rivet]

Wacky

[wraith socket]

I fall for it everytime because I read everything that Kuro says.

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, huge mistake

Take everything Kuro says with an extreme amount of salt or disinterest. Preferably both

[wraith socket]

it doesn't bother me but it is quite an old joke.

[pseudo rivet]

And a bad one

Just like Kuro's humor

But hey

That's how it is

[wraith socket]

It was popular before he was even born.

[pseudo rivet]

Even then?

Wow

[dire dagger]

Like ligma

[pseudo rivet]

That's nuts

Deez nuts, in fact

[dire dagger]

It reminds me of this guy I worked with he would started a conversation with you that would sometimes last for upwards of 30 minutes

And it was all leading up to a deez nuts

Dude was a master of his craft

[pseudo rivet]

Truly a master baiter

[fallow pumice]

oi

bom

quero ver vcs entenderem alguma coisa kkkkkkkk

[pseudo rivet]

[dire dagger]

So true bro but

https://tenor.com/view/rule5-english-only-kowalski-slaping-pointing-finger-gif-24557007

[pseudo rivet]

If only that was actually Rule 5

[wraith socket]

@pseudo rivet @dire dagger I remember calling a grocery store when younger, to prank the office staff there. You would say can you page (speaker announcement for all customers to hear) my father in the store. They would say what is his name? You would say MeHoff. Then they would say what is his first name? You would say Jack. Then on the speaker announcement for all the customers to hear, they would mindlessly say "Can Jack MeHoff come to the front desk for a phone call?". Hilarity would ensue.

[dire dagger]

amazing

[pseudo rivet]

Funky

Different times

Better times

[dire dagger]

Teenage glory for sure

[spiral talon]

I just wanna play anomaly but couldn’t figure out how to get all the mods I wanted to work. Just wanted to have it run and look like drewskis did

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-rock-throwing-gif-3095471689337470556

speak english

[wraith socket]

Caller ID put an end to all prank calls.

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/peanut-butter-funny-gif-19249884

[hazy helm]

Variant Omega tbh

[rose moth]

pooski

blin, he bad yter

though he did crash gamma servers which is good

[spiral talon]

He did do that

[hazy helm]

gamma crashes the moddb servers so

bad

[spiral talon]

[wraith socket]

O que é que você não está entendendo?

[rose moth]

but hey you are one of us now, doesnt matter how you got here

[rose moth]

OH CRUD I SUBMITTED MY DOC FOR HELPER WITHOUT FILLING IN WHAT MAKES A GOOD MOD SECTION

[spiral talon]

One of usssssss

[hazy helm]

[pseudo rivet]

To be fair, you only wanted to be a Helper for GIF perms

[dire dagger]

I wonder who will be selected

[pseudo rivet]

Hmm, I'll see if I can apply

[dire dagger]

Who ever it is we will beat you into shape

With hot irons and wooden sticks

[rose moth]

erm actuakchtaly i want to keep bandits in line

[dire dagger]

Cringe reason

[pseudo rivet]

Certified Ward moment

[dire dagger]

L rizz

[lime gull]

[pseudo rivet]

If only we used this emote more for what it's actually meant to represent

[hazy helm]

well, I do hate React, however, I aint learning java
Ill start making that one Stalker PDA Phone app I said I would

[pseudo rivet]

C&C4 Renegade when?

[hazy helm]

pay me

[pseudo rivet]

Sure

[dire dagger]

[rose moth]

nah but fr i just want to help community

and beat bandits with sticks

[dire dagger]

I’m not convinced

[pseudo rivet]

Poor Bandits will surely hate you

[dire dagger]

I think we should ban this guy

[hazy helm]

get in line for game projects...

[rose moth]

doitnoballs

[pseudo rivet]

Don't worry, I hate Duty so we need to balance things around here

[pseudo rivet]

Well, that's the thing. That's exactly the case

[dire dagger]

Your right I won’t it would have to be a community vote

[rose moth]

change da world

my final message. goodb ye.

[wraith socket]

That so much doesn't even belong in the Zone. Just like the M-14. Both those make me grumpy.

[rose moth]

im cooked

[dire dagger]

!poll should we ban this @rose moth not for any particular reason just for the lols

[nimble cipher]

@dire dagger, polls can only be created with the /poll slash command.

[pseudo rivet]

Kek

[rose moth]

based wolf moment

[dire dagger]

Over

[wraith socket]

No. I like his cat PFP.

[dire dagger]

It’s over

It won’t let me make the poll

[pseudo rivet]

Hmm, I don't know. MAC-10 could make sense with the Mercs and Bandits

[dire dagger]

Stupid bot

[pseudo rivet]

And the M-14 is a fairly decent weapon

Definitely better than a bolt-action weapon without a scope

[rose moth]

lot of those are floating around from all the proxy wars the us had

[wraith socket]

M-14s were too heavy. I did not like using it. Glad when it got replaced.

[pseudo rivet]

We talking about the old or the modernized versions?

Old one got replaced with the M16 for obvious reasons

[wraith socket]

I'm not talking about a modern version with a scope favored by Marines. I'm talking about a no scope version, totally unmodified.

[dire dagger]

With full auto

[rose moth]

still need to listen to new zone musics

am doing now

[pseudo rivet]

Mk 14 is still a good option, I'd say

[wraith socket]

Yes, I enjoyed shooting the M-16 full auto.

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/m14-ian-mccollum-forgotten-weapons-full-auto-gif-355598284603624344

[jade coral]

Ohhh yeah

[pseudo rivet]

Also, mfw I didn't know there was a Ukrainian IWI Tavor

[wraith socket]

In 2013 GSC hired me to run Official S.T.A.L.K.E.R. when they were shutting down their studio. I was the sole person running it from 2013 to 2019. When GSC decided to retake control, Sergiy Grygorovych contacted me, and I gave it back to them. I am still listed as one of the many people who operate it. However, they went from being a social media platform to a public announcement's platform. When I ran it, I posted more content in 1 month, than all that was posted from 2010 to 2013 AND 2019 to 2024 combined. I raised the membership from 30,000 to 80,000 from 2013 to 2019. Since 2019 it has gone from 80,000 to 92,700, as it became less active under their total control, compared to my output. Now I am helping GSC here.

[spiral talon]

Damn

[nimble cipher]

blaze1599 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[static compass]

Why does literally every other slight bit of damage make Scar bleed?

[indigo marsh]

Because otherwise he would be too op

[static compass]

I never have bandages and each engagement takes me multiple tries

Probably why I'm taking so long to get through it

[indigo marsh]

He is the greatest protag without the nerf

[celest blaze]

AYO

this gives me big hope for tes 6 and fallout 5 modding

[lean quiver]

TES 6 is doomed

[still ridge]

fora-212 chads rise up

[worn oar]

Chamoy is funny ngl

[celest blaze]

naw they wouldnt destroy the only thing keeping them afloat

[still ridge]

That’s the Malyuk

[storm flare]

I just got home from the mountains, did physical ultimate sell out already?

[celest blaze]

(or maybe im just coping idk)

[worn oar]

Omg chamoy

[wraith socket]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamoy_(sauce)

Not a bad thing to be called a tasty sauce.

[wraith socket]

Yes, my point being locally produced arms is good for game. More believable than GTA weapons of Mac-10.

[still ridge]

MAC-10 is feasible

not that bad

[lime gull]

less feasible than 20 AK varients

[still ridge]

In a game with magic distortion in space time and handheld coilguns, the MAC-10 isn’t really too glaringly out of place

[viscid gulch]

Guys i'm confused. Based on recent update regarding the physical editions for S2 mentioning the store "gamelegends" where it says the code for the game will be in the box. Does this mean that the codes will not be sent separately to emails...? Because the physical edition package may be delivered later (days, weeks, maybe a month?) than the game itself comes out. Do you know anything about this please? Thanks

[wraith socket]

Sure it's feasible. Anything is feasible that actually exists. I don't want to see a catapult or a scimitar, but they are feasible.

[magic fjord]

So, are there going to be any more issues of the ultimate edition for the US? Seems there's plenty available in other countries but the US one sold out of the ultimate edition

[lime gull]

None of us are official GSC and so none of us really know.

Plus I think it's in the hands of retailers now

[wraith socket]

People asking questions without telling us what country you are in and who the vendor is that you ordered from, makes all questions beyond knowing.

[lime gull]

we might get more retailers for the U.S. in time but idk. It's a limited edition item so who knows.

[celest goblet]

Well they did open up ultimate edition preorders again in the US, but it sold out quickly. It is possible more may come at some point but we do not know.

[wise geyser]

Vulkan M right?

[wraith socket]

Does the M stand for Malyuk?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malyuk

[rain marten]

Just ordered the U edition of STALKER 2. Seeing as I have been waiting for this game for months now, I realised that for me this was a given.

[wraith socket]

From who? Share the joy.

[rain marten]

Why... Is the potato grip upside down??

[rain marten]

Steam.

[wraith socket]

Okay. the non-physical edition. Those have never sold out.

[rain marten]

I am not too much into physical collections. My merch interest is rather limited.

I am still a bit annoyed though that Sony does not ship anything to Sweden. I wanted my damn Helldivers 2 mug!

[wraith socket]

That big artifact module with the artifact, looks like a block of resin.

[rose moth]

every day i will check back to see if i have mod

until i get it

[rain marten]

Perhaps. But my point still stands, when it comes to merch, I usually go for things that have some practical use.

[wise geyser]

Yeah

Oh yeah that’s it

So glad it’s gonna be in stalker 2 man great weapon

[storm flare]

We pray for more Ultimate edition availability in the US

I was in the mountains at the time with no internet when they first re-released

[lime gull]

I cracked October 20th

[cobalt nexus]

Like a snork blow up doll?

[lean quiver]

Die

[ocean sedge]

Bloodsuckers are better

Freedom knows that

[celest blaze]

bandits*

real ones know

[peak raptor]

gsc after answering the 20 quantillionth phys edition question

[lean quiver]

sight

[dire dagger]

Sorry to say but you have very likely missed your last chance

Time to open your wallet for eBay scalpers

[fiery vault]

Might sound like a goofball question, but if I got the PC physical preorder for STALKER 2 from final boss bundle or whatever, i should be getting a Steam game mode on or near launch for the game right?

[indigo marsh]

#📜┃gsc-answers message

[fiery vault]

Appreciate you

[dense hatch]

5 dozen blind dogs to the north, more at 11

[dense hatch]

spsa my beloved

blind dogs bgone

[wraith socket]

I guess we're going to have to choose new favorite shotguns in Stalker 2.

[indigo marsh]

Spsa 12 might not be as efficient as the chaser but it definitely is cooler than the chaser

[dense hatch]

it's better than the chaser in CS

[celest blaze]

I'd love the saiga 12 my absolute favorite shotgun

[dense hatch]

ESPECIALLY when upgraded for firerate

[celest blaze]

In cotz that saiga 12 melt chimeras even in master if you remember some of the cotz videos I used to post

[cobalt nexus]

So the HoC map will be 64 square kms which is the same size as PubGs Erangel. Its worth noting though that size includes all of the water. Erangels playable area is 32 square kms. It looks like all of the HoC map will be explorable.

[static compass]

Not to mention vertical exploration

Buildings, X labs, etc.

[cobalt nexus]

Dungeons

[static compass]

Oh yeah

[wraith socket]

I don't have a Saiga 12 in CotZ, so you must have some add-on to include weapons not originally provided.

[indigo marsh]

The answer is vanilla Clear sky.

[cobalt nexus]

I love that movie.

[indigo marsh]

Yeah. In CotZ weapon pack 1.5. It's an add-on for CotZ.

[magic fjord]

I hope so too, but if not I have plenty of other things to spend that money on.

[wraith socket]

DoctorX tweaked the Armsel Striker to be the best version in any game or mod I have seen.

Alas the Armsel Striker does not appear to be included in Stalker 2.

[indigo marsh]

It's strange that a weapon add-on for CotZ is called the CotZ weapon pack because you would assume that that's the weapon pack CotZ comes with vanilla. I mean even the trilogy games have that.

[dense hatch]

it wasn't great in CoP

the reload and rarity didn't help make it a useful weapon

[wraith socket]

Add-ons are Add-ons. That means they were not there in the original game or mod.

[indigo marsh]

There SoC weapon pack for SoC and stalker weapon pack for CoP.

[wraith socket]

Best shotgun in CoP once upgraded to full auto.

[dense hatch]

50000 rubles for a fun shotgun with a 6 decade recoil, or spsa being constantly cracked even without upgrades

[indigo marsh]

I tried using the eliminator but I sucked with the iron sights on that thing. Maybe I would have liked it if I used the 1.6x SUSAT.

[celest blaze]

Oh yeah sorry I forgot it's a modded in one

[dense hatch]

I hope shotgun shells are still cheap

they're dirt cheap in the trilogy but I'm not sure if they'll buck the trend

[cobalt nexus]

😂

It was worth a shot

[lethal orchid]

wtf is that soyjack ahh model

[lime gull]

Wth is that swamp hag lookin' ass thang

[wraith socket]

gigant_jumper, also known as a Borya.

[lime gull]

Freaky swamp frog

[lime gull]

blast that thang back to hell

[wraith socket]

It jumped at me and went into the Anomaly.

[lime gull]

that gun is my fave from cop, was walking around with it in pripyat for some nostalgia yesterday.

[halcyon plaza]

Hi, I have a serious bug in the Switch version of Clear Sky: I can't equip my main weapon, only my secondary pistol. It doesn't matter what gun I have in my main weapon slot, whether it's an AR or a shotgun, I can't select it in the radial menu. I can only select my pistol, a bolt, and to holster my weapon.

I can't submit this in the bugs page as there is no option for Switch bugs. Thanks.

[wraith socket]

You shouldn't have an AR in Clear Sky. Is it modded or did you mean AK?

[halcyon plaza]

AR as in assault rifle

[wraith socket]

That's not a term I'm used to people using in the games. Go find a stash and dump all your weapons into it. Take them out one at a time, see if you can move them around in the slots and then put them back and see what happens. Also, if you can make a save and reload it, that often unsticks things, so to speak.

[halcyon plaza]

Thanks, I'll try that

[celest goblet]

Sidorovich still using his Windows XP laptop in 2022

[wraith socket]

Actually Windows 7.

[dim topaz]

I'm using it rn

[wraith socket]

What browser?

[dim topaz]

Oh wait you meant the lappy not the background

[dim topaz]

Chrome

[wraith socket]

Windows XP as you quoted or you have that wallpaper right now?

[dim topaz]

Just the wallpaper lol

Xp support stopped like 10 years ago no?

[wraith socket]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

[dim topaz]

I... Know. My first OS was 98

Or was it 95, idk

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[jade coral]

So precious

[lethal orchid]

Despite being rusty at the game, I hopped on a death match and killed everyone in the lobby

[red spruce]

"Im rusty at the game" is usually what I hear before witnessing a humble man annihalate entire lobbies

It smells like food
Now im hungy :<

[open drum]

Damn those US physical editions sold out so fast, for some reason my email only came through today and the ultimate edition is gone

[wraith socket]

It was supposed to be the second run, so the more people complain here, the better the chances they might produce more.

[sour goblet]

what mod adds creatures from hell

[open drum]

Yeah I'm not trying to be mad at them but I really wanted that lamp, was totally willing to drop an extra couple hundred for it too

[scenic gorge]

Dude I’m hung up on the idea that the ultimate edition that I’ve already ordered might have a chance of not coming with a steelbook case

I am glad I got the chance to preorder tho.

[open drum]

Is that a thing? Why wouldn't you get it?

[balmy forum]

2 weeks 3 days

[scenic gorge]

Something about the process when they put together all the stuff and I guess the devs have no control over that and they apologize for it

[open drum]

man that would suck hope you get all the stuff

[scenic gorge]

Yeah me too, everything else will be there just there’s that chance I get the plastic case rather than the steelbook

The bag looks so sick dude

There’s a really good quality image of all the stuff on their site when you click on the link to their recent announcement if you scroll to the bottom. The material seems really nice

[open drum]

Yeah it looks amazing, really hope i get the chance to order it, obviously the US has demand for more so I'm hoping they do another run because that run sold out before i got the email

[scenic gorge]

Are you pc or Xbox??

Cause last I checked the Xbox version is available

[open drum]

PC unfortunately, thats good info for someone else tho

thanks for the info regardless

[scenic gorge]

Best of luck to you tho fr. Cause man I was struggling to get my hands on it till just recently. Im xbox tho. The wait is crazy tho. Estimated for april 2025. The delivery of the box with all the stuff

[open drum]

You get a code for the game tho right? Cause waiting to play till April would suuuuck

[scenic gorge]

Nah yeah I get the code

Think it’s a lil weird tho that you receive a steelbook with no disc. Seems pretty odd

[open drum]

Yeah honestly cases for games are pretty much relics for those of us old enough to have purchased our games in person i guess

[scenic gorge]

Mann I’m only 23 😂 it’s crazy how much things have changed

[open drum]

I'm only 18 and i still remember going to gamestop and target to get games for my birthday, like its really wild how fast things move

[scenic gorge]

Normally I do buy digital just so that someone else can enjoy the fruits of my game library, it’s easier to have ppl to play with that way.

[open drum]

Yeah for sure, the convenience is better but theres something nice about physical, especially now with all the controversies about how companies really can just take away your ability to play any games you paid for digitally

[scenic gorge]

Yeah something needs to be done about that for sure.

[granite mortar]

Just buy the game on GOG and keep an offline installer somewhere

[open drum]

thanks for the advice, appreciate it

[pearl jacinth]

-# the zone

[wraith socket]

You can't go wrong listening to Chymo. He is a Master Cat.

[open drum]

for sure, Chymo speaks and I'll be damned if I'm not listening

[normal bobcat]

I find it interesting that there is a map_jupiter.dds file in the gamedata for STALKER CS

[sour goblet]

in stalker 2 scar and skif will make out

[normal bobcat]

doubt

[sour goblet]

i got to the point where im getting more recent videos 🙏

[lime gull]

Finally!

[sour goblet]

best ive gotten is from a few days ago

(although it was anomaly content)

[lime gull]

Awwh

[sour goblet]

it was a challenge thing called invictus++ which is like super super ironman hardcore mode or something

[lime gull]

I was rewatching a year old playthrough of Goldsphere.

[sour goblet]

peak

[lime gull]

Yes, I am familiar with invictus runs

[sour goblet]

im not

[lime gull]

I've seen a few eft yters do invictus runs

Anyway, I am going to head to bed. Soon only 16 days till s2.

[sour goblet]

also wtf is that anomaly (modded mission i think?) where you have to kill a guy that had a name that started with A (i dont remember) and he can take like 10 rpg hits

[sour goblet]

hope you have a nice sleep 👍

[quaint kindle]

Hi, if I buy the physical edition of this game, would I be able to download it (like in most physical game version), I don't have a working BD player?

[sour goblet]

If you buy the physical edition of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl but don’t have a working Blu-ray (BD) player, you’ll still likely be able to download the game. Many modern physical game editions for PC include a digital code, allowing you to activate and download the game through a platform like Steam or GOG instead of needing the disc to play.

To be certain, though, it’s best to check the specific edition details before purchasing. Some physical releases still require the disc for installation, though most offer a code as a backup for cases like yours.

[quaint kindle]

Thx, in fact there are no info I could find about it, nore in the FAQ or the official site.

[sour goblet]

no problem, you could try in #📜┃ask-gsc next time, i think they could help

i hope you have a great time playing the game when it arrives, have fun stalker

[quaint kindle]

Thx again, it's like Withcher 3 I want a physical edition so this game could be given to my children, as Steam games do not belong to you

oh, I am old now, and stalker had been my favorite FPS game so far by a long shot

[sour goblet]

have you tried GOG?

[quaint kindle]

Yes, but I think it's the same policy. I favor GOG most of the time now

[sour goblet]

GOG pays GSC better (atleast i think) and it also has offline installers aswell as some other licenses
2.1 We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a 'license') to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This license is for your personal use.

[quaint kindle]

Good to know, though I like the steam mod system, I usually buy most of my game on GOG, but thx for the intel

[sour goblet]

no problem, stalker 2 is definitely a great time to bond with your kids, nice to see veterans here

[sour goblet]

by the way, if you want to get mods on GOG installed games, you can open the game's file location (aka the game's folder) and you can create an extensions folder there, which you can use to install mods

[quaint kindle]

I know I did, (got X4 for example on GOG), it's alaways a bit trickier, but one can manage.

[crisp ruin]

I have 10 cats to feed on street

• Orange one

[sour goblet]

i noticed many people calling the sgi-5k arrow strelok's sgi

[crisp ruin]

Orange Cats are built different

[sour goblet]

orange cat feasting on a child

[granite mortar]

Peaksphere

[sour goblet]

anomaly is awfully ridiculous sometimes

also its super funny to me that the monolith fighters change into their uniforms out in the open

[solid dome]

16 days
what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuvk

man wtf

[sour goblet]

what if i told you i was selling the full game early for only 800 roubles..

[scenic steeple]

who is the best protagonist?

strelok, scar or degtyarev?

[sour goblet]

strelok

[scenic steeple]

wonder if skiff will be better

[red spruce]

No way youre disrespecting my man Degtyarev like that

[scenic steeple]

in my opinion it is scar

[red spruce]

The trinity of opinions

[nimble cipher]

williamtenebris has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[red spruce]

[scenic steeple]

he won three faction wars, takes emissions like candy and did funny things at CNPP

[red spruce]

But Deg is handsome

What a fine specimen of a man

[scenic steeple]

he looks like the most average person alive.

[gaunt burrow]

🤝

[red spruce]

Such disrespect. I have sent 3 low-level bandits to spam your doorbell

[gaunt burrow]

Scar underrated as hell. which is kinda weird considering he's basically a superhuman according to dialogues

[scenic steeple]

YEAH.

[scenic steeple]

I mean the last chance to topple the top opinion that is Strelok

is skiff.

and considering the 15 years of developement

i am pretty sure he is gonna be a badass

[sour goblet]

strelok literally ventured to the cnpp several times defeated it, he can also kill enough military to just have them retreat fully from the zone, he has killed hundreds of people, he was also fighting off several monolith while fighting scar, he slaughtered enough zombies to call himself the doomslayer, and he also did ALL of that over again after getting amnesia

[gaunt burrow]

counterpoint: he ran away from Scar while both of them were at Red Forest and hired other stalkers to stop Scar

[scenic steeple]

yes.

[gaunt burrow]

by that logic all protagonists killed hundreds of people and mutants, but like there's no way Strelok actually killed THAT many Monolithians lorewise

that seems like gameplay exaggeration

[sour goblet]

lorewise strelok made it back from cnpp several times probably in the double digits

also if we're gonna call scar a superhuman then strelok is a superhuman aswell because he could take multiple shots from the gauss rifle at the cnpp

[gaunt burrow]

Doesn't change the point tho. He killed hundreds of Monolithians with crappy AK lorewise? Doesn't sound believable, regardless of him being experienced stalker

[gaunt burrow]

No? Strelok is just human with a lot of luck and experience & knowledge

[worn oar]

[gaunt burrow]

While you have 2 dialogues that directly confirm that Scar is basically 1

[quiet abyss]

Alo

[gaunt burrow]

also you do realize that EM1 wasn't made to kill people right?

its an experimental weapon, its description states this: An experimental electromagnetic rifle used for incapacitating electronic devices from a distance. Ineffective against live targets. Powered by accumulator batteries.

[sour goblet]

in call of pripyat the monolith uses a gauss rifle that instantly kills you

[gaunt burrow]

Gauss isn't same as EM1

[quiet abyss]

Cuz the gameplay is diffrent

[gaunt burrow]

read description of EM1, it directly states that its made for incapacitating electronic devices

[sour goblet]

oh yeah you're right

[quiet abyss]

Thats why the shooters do more damage

[gaunt burrow]

and isn't effective against live targets, meaning that it isn't made to actually kill anyone

[quiet abyss]

"Hundreds"

[sour goblet]

doesnt it one shot monolith on headshot

[quiet abyss]

No he didnt

[gaunt burrow]

whats your point?

[gaunt burrow]

never tried to kill monolithians with it, but if it actually does kill monolithians then its another case of "gameplay not matching with lore"

[sour goblet]

honestly i'd avoid having to fight hundreds of monolith but id definitely say strelok has killed atleast a hundred monolith soldiers while on his journeys

[quiet abyss]

Its a gameplay choice

U could take alternate paths

[sour goblet]

strelok uses an sgi-5k in the final gunfight in the cnpp

[gaunt burrow]

thats just whataboutism now

[quiet abyss]

Realistically

[sour goblet]

i think i could be wrong tho thats just what it looked like to me

[gaunt burrow]

even if gameplay exaggerates number of enemies Strelok still isn't some pacifist who avoids firefights lol

he literally fought with bunch of monolithians at CNPP even in the end of Clear Sky

[quiet abyss]

Well why waste ammo for when exemple in soc

[sour goblet]

i can understand running from an actual fight because he could genuinely get fatally injured and you definitely dont want that in the zone especially

[quiet abyss]

Go to the forest instead of road at radar

Avoid a platoon of monolith

[quiet abyss]

Ye

Theres some mutants

[wraith socket]

They are all marked on the map in different colors.

[sour goblet]

also the c-consciousness took him as so much of a ||threat that he gets his memory wiped and gets tasked to eliminate himself|| spoilers for shadow of chernobyl

[gaunt burrow]

as for "superpowers" games never state that Strelok has any special abilities, while Scar has increased reaction, durability etc

"It's true - some of your abilities, such as motor skills, reaction and endurance, improved rapidly after the emission. It seems that the emission supplied your body with energy... Conversely, this brief period of strength is followed by a sharp decline in your well-being, the effects which you are currently experiencing. Finally, I'm going to tell you something you already know: the emissions are destroying your nervous system. If they keep reoccuring - you will die... or, what's worse, lose your intelligence and your very "self." - Dialogue of Kalancha in Clear Sky

Lebedev also has dialogue about that, will try to find it quickly

[sour goblet]

strelok has balls of steel 💯

[gaunt burrow]

couldn't find a text dialogue so I posted screenshot of that dialogue in #📸┃screens_and_videos instead

[sour goblet]

i did cnpp with clear sky armour because they are sigmas

[sour goblet]

scar is an artifact confirmed

[solid dome]

How much in euro?

[sour goblet]

7.41 also im making a gauss rifle reference

[gaunt burrow]

Scar basically has increased stats, and Deg can be affected by high levels of psy-emissions without losing consciousness #📸┃screens_and_videos

out of all main character only Strelok is "normal"

[wraith socket]

$8.08 US Dollars? I would have to kill you just for being so ridiculous.

[solid dome]

BUYIN

Shut up all

16 muthafukeeeeeeeen days.
MAY OUR SOCIAL LIFE REST IN PIECE IN ADVANCE.

[wraith socket]

When Stalker 2 comes out, will you stop yelling at us?

[sour goblet]

||in the end of clear sky strelok and scar both survive a violent emission in the cnpp and they are both basically zombified for a bit if you could call it that, and we get to see scar again in heart of chornobyl i think so that means strelok has stronger willpower loool xd lolololol|| spoilers for clear sky and heart of chornobyl

||anyways in stalker lore strelok retired from the stalker business and became a lead researcher so i doubt he could win now, especially as scar is the leader of spark, let old man strelok rest || spoilers for heart of chornobyl and call of pripyat

no problem tejas

[wraith socket]

I hope you didn't mind, I placed your screenshot from the other channel under what you were saying.

[gaunt burrow]

Scar survived 3 emissions while Strelok just 2, plus in the end he had psy-protection

[gaunt burrow]

thank you for that actually, i don't mind at all

[granite mortar]

Common Scar W

[sour goblet]

doesnt strelok's psy-helmet get disabled and then the emission happens?

[gaunt burrow]

not just that but emissions actually increase scars stats for some time, while Strelok had to be patched by Doctor after first raid

[wraith socket]

@granite mortar

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[gaunt burrow]

i misspoke, what I'm trying to say is that Scar never had such protections . Common Scar W

[sour goblet]

strelok actually survived, while scar is just slowly being robbed of his life per emission, id barely call that survival but more like enduring the emissions

[gaunt burrow]

basically emissions power up Scar for some time, but with Strelok its different

[solid dome]

I'll not be here for at least 24 hours

I'm cutting out my social activity cord

[sour goblet]

ok

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[wraith socket]

I have to work that day.

[solid dome]

I quit job to be able to play

[gaunt burrow]

first emission that happened after his first raid: he almost died, had to be patched by doctor, second emission: he also survived barely AND lost consciousness, BUT, Strelok as we know never received any "buffs" from any emissions

[granite mortar]

Chad Scar casually sucking in the noosphere energy to buff himself

[gaunt burrow]

Scar being alive already contradicts the fact that emissions slowly kill him tho

[wraith socket]

I believe the damage that Scar received to his nervous system, is why the Monolith failed to brainwash him like they did Strelok.

[gaunt burrow]

even if that narrative was presented in CS

[solid dome]

Not even slightly kidding

[granite mortar]

No
Lebedev would never lie

[worn oar]

||strelok had a barely functioning psi helm I think|||

[sour goblet]

his nervous system gets damaged, if his nervous system fully shuts down he just dies

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[sour goblet]

it was disabled before the emission

[gaunt burrow]

CS in general presented this idea that Scar is on timer, that if X time passes he'll just die

yet in trailers we see Scar who's just fine and still kicking

[gaunt burrow]

meaning that Lebedev/Kalancha were lying about that subject, or simply were wrong

[granite mortar]

My epic Scar time travel theory explains this 😎

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[gaunt burrow]

also in CoP there were emissions daily, but Scar survived even that time

[sour goblet]

i still dont think there are zero repercussions to being hit by an emission, theres no way he just gets hit by those massive blasts of energy and is perfectly okay and maybe even stronger

[granite mortar]

Omg
Mono cat

[gaunt burrow]

"every emission harms your nervous system, and if this continues - you will die."

in this case Scar should've been dead during CoP if not before

[granite mortar]

Scar is Emperor of Stalkers confirmed

[gaunt burrow]

yeah fair

[gaunt burrow]

still weird though, especially if we take into consideration daily emissions in CoP

[sour goblet]

that just means he didnt hide from the emissions, i think he'd learn to hide from emissions because if he doesnt he will definitely be harmed in one way or another

[gaunt burrow]

at least in Clear Sky emissions weren't happening daily even in gameplay, and SoC has 2 scripted emissions

[granite mortar]

Wretched creature

[brazen saffron]

do you think there will be gold status announce?

[sour goblet]

this needs to be on a wall in freedom base

[granite mortar]

[sour goblet]

what happens if one wishes to expand the zone

does it expand 10km instead of 5km

[wraith socket]

Did you know you can keep the SoC Emission at the CNPP from happening?

[gaunt burrow]

how can you do it?

[granite mortar]

Whos your favourite Penguin from Chernobyl?
@wraith socket

[wraith socket]

Do you know what triggers it?

[gaunt burrow]

SoC emissions are triggered by script, as far as I know

[wraith socket]

I don;'t know what that means.

[wraith socket]

Not script. It is a ground trigger. You walk across an invisible line and it is triggered.

[gaunt burrow]

same with 2 Clear Sky emissions (1 that happens when Scar got out of Clear Sky base for the first time and decided to help the outpost and another at the end)

[gaunt burrow]

aha

[wraith socket]

If you go around it and enter the CNPP compound from the other side, it does not trigger.

[granite mortar]

#⭐┃nospoilers_general message

[sour goblet]

ok lets just settle this in the most realistic way

if strelok and scar fought at their prime: either one of them could win because they are both extremely well versed stalkers, scar has an advantage in motor skills and physical capabilities while strelok has great combat knowledge, if you add to the fact he participated in the arena and defeated an armed opponent with a knife

if strelok and scar fought in lore events: scar would demolish strelok because he's a researcher now

its a pretty fair fight imo

[gaunt burrow]

theres no realistic way because prime Scar would be Clear Sky Scar who literally has increased stats due to emissions

[gaunt burrow]

Strelok doesn't has any buffs, unlike Degtyarev and Scar

not a fair fight from the start

[sour goblet]

realistic
/ˌrɪəˈlɪstɪk/
adjective

1. having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected.
   "I thought we had a realistic chance of winning"

[gaunt burrow]

Point is that fight isn't fair at all

you are basically putting a superhuman against normal guy who's just very lucky, skilled and experienced

[sour goblet]

yes, and guns hurt them both

[gaunt burrow]

What guns would you want them to use? Scar in cutscene has Vintar, which I guess still can be useful in close range but not as much as other guns (in gameplay its still fairly easy to kill opponents with Vintar in close range), and Strelok in the end of SoC has crappy AKM which is useless at long range

[sour goblet]

a fair fight with an akm-74/2 for both of them

[deep quiver]

how about hand to hand no artifacts no drugs no meds IN the swamps

[sour goblet]

rostok arena

[wraith socket]

I still don't know what you mean. What is a Penguin?

[gaunt burrow]

Still think that Scar would win due to these factors: Scar seems way older than Strelok, Scar looks like someone who's in his 50's at least. that means more experience. Scar has increased stats due to emissions. Scar is also veteran even in the start of the game (in dialogues he says that he isn't stranger to the Zone). And in the fistfight I also bet that Scar would win because phyiscally he seems bigger than Strelok for sure

[hardy turtle]

hype check: how hyped r u rn?

[late yarrow]

I’m excited as hell

[gaunt burrow]

we don't know if he canonically participated in the arena though

we playing as him completed the arena, but lorewise that might not be the case at all

[sour goblet]

thats fair, im going to reply to your message before so give me a sec

[gaunt burrow]

i seriously doubt that Strelok would spend his time on arena and things like that when he has more important business

i can't see Scar wasting his time on other faction wars and other things either (not including Clear Sky vs Renegades because its necessary for the plot)

[wraith socket]

Hopefully we can meet Strelok and Scar in Stalker 2 so you two can stop arguing about it.

[chrome sigil]

So hyped that I'm going to ask one of my teacher's to hit me with her car on the 19th

[gaunt burrow]

of course Dutyer said that

@worn oar why are 99% of Dutyers edgy 12 years olds?

[chrome sigil]

Bruh

I'm not even 12, I'm in high school

[deep quiver]

freedom and duty members are all goofballs with minimum braincells, last day faction members are the REAL deal

[sour goblet]

scar being older means his reflexes has aged, it never says if his abilities were enhanced over the average for his age or the average of everyone, also the fact that scar looks bigger is because he's wearing loose clothing at the start and his head is built like a brick
if you look at the playermodel while wearing certain armors they're pretty similar, if we had them fight before the first emission it would be completely fair
strelok was also a veteran (if i remember correctly he also might have been an expert if you managed to talk to him during cnpp)
we dont know if scar got amnesia but the events after the fight with strelok at the cnpp definitely affected them both for quite a bit

[gaunt burrow]

ah yes, faction that only has 1 mention and likely doens't even exists anymore

[sour goblet]

rahh za svoboda

[deep quiver]

trust me last day is peak

i will revive the poop camo and make chernobyl great again

[gaunt burrow]

i'm willing to accept that I was wrong about Scar being physically bigger than Strelok, its just I always had the impression that he indeed is bigger

[sour goblet]

also it was never said if scar's enhanced ability's were permanent or temporary (i might be wrong though, feel free to correct me)

[gaunt burrow]

both are veterans though, but thing is that we don't know when they entered the Zone in the first place

[deep quiver]

thinking about it again i think intercept is my favorite faction so far

[sour goblet]

that needs to be cleared up

[gaunt burrow]

because games never say the date when Scar and Strelok actually entered the Zone (despite Wikipedia saying that Strelok is one of the first stalkers)

[deep quiver]

is it really that important for the date?

[gaunt burrow]

dates would just help us more in this comparison

[sour goblet]

strelok is more well known in my opinion, he's like a legend at this point

[deep quiver]

powerscaling stalker is indeed one of the activites of all time

[sour goblet]

absolute cinema

[deep quiver]

how about that prick's face when he saw the gat?

[gaunt burrow]

he's indeed more popular than Scar. in CS just his deeds are mentioned, and in CoP just 1 note has Scar reference

[sour goblet]

how about that prick's face when he saw the kot

[deep quiver]

i lean more into strelok because he appears in more games

[gaunt burrow]

"Ghost, I'm taking my things. Thanks for the assault rifle - I'm going to need it. In exchange, I'm leaving you some of Doctor's medical supplies. I managed to trap the mercenary who was on my trail, so I'm not going to need them... I hope. I'm going to meet Fang now - he managed to put the decoder together. Let's meet at the usual place, if you can make it. Strelok."

[deep quiver]

well nevermin

[gaunt burrow]

And about Strelok even military know, and militaries aren't exactly people who are well versed about the Zone

[keen vortex]

Hey, does anyone know if the game will have a photo mode feature?

[solid dome]

You want to capture nudes?

[sour goblet]

we'll find out more about scar in stalker 2 so i think we should settle it after it gets released, probably the best choice or idea

[deep quiver]

he wants to take a photo of the new zone wwaifus

[gaunt burrow]

doesn't mean anything tbh. you are literally forced to babysit him in CoP. even Kovalsky says that he just heard about his experienced and isn't sure if all that is told about Strelok is true

[keen vortex]

Yeeah, in radioactive environment, I’m dreaming about that 😂

[deep quiver]

TO be fair, he only appears in like, the VERY end of the game

[gaunt burrow]

point stands still

in CoP you are basically babysitting him, and in CS he's literally running away from Scar

[deep quiver]

also, GSC gameplay does not complement lore

[gaunt burrow]

none of those appearences are "epic" imo

in fact they just make Strelok look weak

[deep quiver]

strelok is getting jumped by monolith and the entire clear sky faction in the CNPP

[gaunt burrow]

he wasn't getting jumped by anybody when he was at the Red Forest, yet he was not only running away from Scar, but literally HIRED a squad of stalkers

[deep quiver]

and fighting scar is really illogical if you ask me, WHY would you turn around and fight a dude who can kill you as much as you can kill him, and abandon your objective of finding the truth

[sour goblet]

well why would he logically do that?

you need to think a little about it instead of jumping to calling him scared

maybe he was prioritizing his resources

[gaunt burrow]

why wouldn't you eliminate/try to eliminate powerful threat from the start?

[solid dome]

@keen vortex We don't have solid confirmation whether Photo Mode is part of the base game. Asked about it before.

[gaunt burrow]

especially since Strelok literally had SQUAD of other stalkers, its not like he was alone

[deep quiver]

because they don't know?

[gaunt burrow]

it wouldn't even be 1vs1, but 1 vs 1 + entire squad

[deep quiver]

strelok only knows about scar at the end game

[keen vortex]

I get it, thanks for answer 👍🏻

[sour goblet]

he has no idea how this guy is armed, if a single man is coming after you and knows about what you're doing then you have to bet he's well armed, that would delay his journey into the cnpp while he's in a dangerous area (the red forest)

[solid dome]

STALKER 2 WILL MAKE YOU
BUST A FAT, FAT NUT

[gaunt burrow]

then it makes 0 sense. Strelok fought everyone, military, monolith, you call it, yet runs away from 1 single merc he doesn't even knows?

[sour goblet]

already busting to see scar because i miss him

[gaunt burrow]

does he know about his other victims? no

[deep quiver]

he has a way bigger priority than fighting a single man

[gaunt burrow]

why would he assume that he should run away from Scar instead of just trying to murder him?

[deep quiver]

who can probably injure and massively wound him or even kill him

chances of fighting him is 50/50

[gaunt burrow]

"I don't know 1 merc so i'm running away from him" proceeds to murder tons of other dangerous people he doesn't knows

[deep quiver]

and strelok is not in las vegas

[gaunt burrow]

do you not see how flawed this scenario is?

[deep quiver]

no, because why would you turn around for a single man

when you can KEEP going and kill everyone in front

[gaunt burrow]

why wouldn't you? its not like Strelok never killed anyone before, why running now?

[deep quiver]

his objective isn't to massacre the whole CNPP, it's to get inside the sarcophagus

[gray trout]

Are there any more ultimate editions? I can't buy 😦

[gaunt burrow]

also Scar was CHASING him literally, even more reasons to kill him

[deep quiver]

the hiring loners part was exactly what happened

and strelok wouldnt have expected the limansk to go down

[solid dome]

Shut up everyone

[sour goblet]

honestly i dont even know if there's a lore reason lmao

[solid dome]

15 DAYS TILL WE MARCH INSIDE THE ZONE TO FIGHT LIKE A REAL ONE

[deep quiver]

im gonna skif all over zalissya

[sour goblet]

15 DAYS TILL WE COME INTO THE ZONE

I CAN FEEL THE ZONE COMING INSIDE OF ME

[marble wind]

These 15 days will be long...

[deep quiver]

feels like the chromakopia album rollou

[gaunt burrow]

point is that if Strelok isn't scared of murdering military, monolith etc then why is he specifically running away from Scar? it doesn't even seems like "he's running out of time" scenario, because you don't need hours to murder 1 person

[rose apex]

I think it's 16 days right??

[solid dome]

Bruh, you publicly say you're gay...

[solid dome]

For us Balkans, its 15

[gaunt burrow]

Scar appears and Strelok is running away from him. how convinient

[sour goblet]

you got a problem with that?

[solid dome]

I say nay, its all yay

[gaunt burrow]

and hiring loners instead of spending 5-10 minutes to kill him/trying to kill him himself and save money

[deep quiver]

he KNOWS that scar is equal to him, fighting him will probably be long and tedious or his end, he chose to run because he wanted the CNPP

NOT killing scar, which is a massive waste of time or his death

[sour goblet]

strelok wanted that CNPP

[deep quiver]

also, strelok at this time probably has a lot of money, why wouldnt he hire loners

strelok is already smart, its just that the entire zone hates him

[sour goblet]

that makes sense since strelok probably has a ton of artifacts from the cnpp

[sour goblet]

why did i say the cnpp twice

[deep quiver]

deadly anomalies, dangerous mutant, anarchists, and bandits

[solid dome]

Deadly anomalies, friendly mutants, analhists and bandeeds

[deep quiver]

JOIN DUTY JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN

[gaunt burrow]

even more reasons to kill him. you see guy whos your equal chasing you, guy who has reasons to stop you, but you decided to run away without thinking things like "wouldn't he continue to chase me?" "maybe he won't stop even if I blew up the tunnel?"

[solid dome]

We tryna derail Matt's train of thought

[deep quiver]

we DON'T know if strelok even knows that limansk is opened up

[solid dome]

Limansk is closed due to analhists opening a new whorehouse

[deep quiver]

i think you're thinking from a perspective of glory, not logic

[sour goblet]

would you rather spend your ammo on some guy instead of just going to your goal

[deep quiver]

it aint about ammo vro...

[gaunt burrow]

killing someone who tries to stop you before he can become bigger problem makes more sense than avoiding him, running away from him before he'll do something that would affect you horribly

[deep quiver]

strelok doesnt expect scar to reach further than the tunnels, and when he did, strelok has ZERO options

[sour goblet]

strelok and his friends are probably the first people to go the cnpp after all of the researchers formed the c-consciousness

plus it isnt easy

[deep quiver]

also i have not mentioned this in a while, strelok was LESS experienced during clear sky

[sour goblet]

if he got to the cnpp he probably wouldnt have to fight with some randos

[gaunt burrow]

his problem then, should've killed him when he had a chance. opportunity was literally perfect

Strelok was backed by entire squad, with squad he had more chances

[deep quiver]

if your chaser was killing everyone in front of him i would be scared too, and his squad was literally broken apart by other stalkers

[gaunt burrow]

its not like Scar had any backing

[deep quiver]

whoa whoa whoa?

[gaunt burrow]

Clear Sky wasn't at Red Forest yet

at that point Scar was completely alone, unlike Strelok

[deep quiver]

but he HAD clear sky at his disposal to go into the red forest

strelok was ALSO alone, by that i mean he has nobody with him in the tunnels

[gaunt burrow]

Faction appeared at Red Forest later, not during Scar and Strelok chase. but even in this case do you really think killing Scar would take hours?

[deep quiver]

2 very good stalkers, it would take 3 seconds or 3 hours