⭐┃nospoilers_general

[quaint lark]

I have never seen in-fighting so it might as well be "allied".

[gaunt burrow]

Does it even matter?

[quaint lark]

I think of Monolith as high-functioning zombies, considering the recruitment process.

[naive fog]

Strider tho

[granite mortar]

Oh also
@gaunt burrow
Have you seen my new "its over" stickers?

[gaunt burrow]

monolithians see everyone else who isn't in monolith as "animals" (at least that's how A convert in the Black Forest PDA entry in SoC seems to imply)

[quaint lark]

He still had his brain fried, no?
Just got better when the signal stopped

[gaunt burrow]

so i honestly can't imagine monolithians considering zombies as friends

[granite mortar]

To be fair the "other" are eastern slavs... :3

[earnest bear]

Na Monolith are just brain washed. Zombies are actually Zombies
So they can't Walk or talk probably unlike monoliths which even talk probably when they get shot

[gaunt burrow]

they aren't zombies at all. monolithians are superfanatical humans (can even be considered superhuman according to lore)

they can think for themselves, are capable of ambush tactics and other things, unlike zombies who are braindead but only their reflexes remained

[earnest bear]

They are just humans that have eaten too much German Panzer Schokolade

[quaint lark]

Psi-emissions fry your brain, if you're lobotomized enough you're just a zombie. Otherwise, brainwashing is applied.

At the end of CS everyone gets caught in an emission and taken to a lab, Strelok is outright shown to have went through this

[granite mortar]

I think that emission was controlled by C-Con to just knock people out
At least those close enough

[quaint lark]

He wasn't made to serve the monolith in a conscious way, just returned on order to kill a high-value individual—which happened to be himself

[indigo marsh]

Wasn't there something related to them in the folklore tab of the PDA or something?

[gaunt burrow]

even brainwashing doesn't remove their ability to think for themselves. and even erase their past memories completely, according to monolith soldiers PDA entry in SoC

"A number haunts me, as if it's chasing me from a previous life. I knew it then, when I didn't believe. I remember it now - 342089. It's the code to a door but i do not remember the way to the door."

[indigo marsh]

I kinda vaguely remember PDA entry about a monolith squad encountering a half convert or something

[gaunt burrow]

this one @indigo marsh

[quaint lark]

I'm saying it depends on how badly they are fried

A few monolith soldier models have faces like zombies, they have a particular look to them

[indigo marsh]

Yeah that one.

[quaint lark]

Mostly how the mouth and eyes look

[gaunt burrow]

and despite that fact they still move normally, can shoot normally etc

despite looking like literal zombies they still function like humans which is interesting

[quaint lark]

Yes
Because they were mostly intact

[gaunt burrow]

imo it has something to do with power of scorcher, like from SoC we know that scorcher isn't always operating at full strenght

[quaint lark]

I mean this is all speculation but still fun to think about
Seems we'll know for sure in a month, eh?

[gaunt burrow]

my theory is that those monolithians were under stronger influence, while rest of them who look normal got converted when scorcher was operating at lower capacity

[quaint lark]

Yee.

[dense hatch]

I think the difference is just severity

[hardy turtle]

30 days

[hybrid bane]

I think if stalker had ray tracing it would be cool, the lighting would be amazing

[bronze talon]

30 days gentlemen 🗿

[young lichen]

Recently, two years later, I returned to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. SoC. It was so great. It's possible to describe my impression for a long time, although I've been through the trilogy before. This is strange.
I also didn't think about what it would be like for a Marked One to live with amnesia. How empty and quiet can it be in his head

[bronze talon]

Anyone knows how long theyve been working on stalker 2?

[loud gate]

Around 7 years.

[bronze talon]

Gyat

[sand fiber]

2009-2012, ~2019-2024

and 2002 if you wanna be pretentious :3

[loud gate]

Since 2017*

[gaunt burrow]

👉 🚪

[bronze talon]

Im not tryna overhype this game but i have a feeling we gonna be playing stalker 2 for a while

Lol

[clever vapor]

Hi, i wait this game so much, i didnt followed anything or almost anything so i dont get spoiled, but i wanna know one, a SURVIVAL mode difficulty is here ? i want the game to as hard as ANOMALY.

[sand fiber]

uninstall anomaly and play the actual games ;3

[empty surge]

do i get any bonuses for pre-order?

[crisp ruin]

Do I need to ask devs about... Some weird question? To get lore more???

[gaunt burrow]

inb4 it'll be questions about NSFW

[crisp ruin]

[crisp ruin]

No, some character...

Lemme ask them

[gaunt burrow]

👁️

[hardy turtle]

hope they added gamma mechanics, I can't wait to spend 14 hours looking for a specific makarov screw that was made in 1965

[crisp ruin]

[gaunt burrow]

[static compass]

Don't forget to ask them about the ||mocapped Strelok and Scar NSFW scene||

[loud gate]

Yup.

[crisp ruin]

so I asked them and now wait

[young lichen]

Why do some people want to humiliate Strelok? What's wrong with him?

[rocky trellis]

pre-order bonus is that comfy extra campfire content and something else

[celest goblet]

Relatively minor things, but a small bonus if you decide to preorder

[empty surge]

are they worth it tho

[rocky trellis]

I think campfire content could be quite significant. Those are quite important for the atmosphere of the game

[empty surge]

cuz i think it would be better for my finances to buy during sale

[rocky trellis]

if you don't mind waiting for a rather long time, sure. Doubt this is going on sale any time soon

[celest goblet]

Up to you. I would say if you were going to play at launch regardless sure

[rocky trellis]

maybe a minor sale next summer, like 10-25% off

[clever vapor]

thats not my question.

[loud gate]

You can check for yourself - https://www.stalker2.com/preorder/digital

[empty surge]

ty

[rocky trellis]

doubt even hardesst difficulty is going to be too hard. These days practicipation medals are given even on hardest difficulties...

hilarious to see how many people cry a river when finally have to git gud a little bit

Elden Ring DLC and Doom Eternal dlc

[clever vapor]

thats what i'm afraid off..

but stalker should be hard and a survival, otherwise.. its not the same, BUT MODS are here, the thing is i want to play this game for a looong time, i'll have to wait months for these goods survival mods i guess, and i dotn want to loool

[loud gate]

doubt even hardesst difficulty is going to be too hard.
You're in for a surprise lol

[celest goblet]

The hard mode I think will be pretty hard

[dense hatch]

it's not like the difficulty mattered much in the trilogy

[celest goblet]

Normal may feel easy if you are used to original games on master

[rocky trellis]

Wait seriously? Hard will actually be hard?

[dense hatch]

master wasn't that hard once you got used to the mechanics and after a playthrough or two

[celest goblet]

Yeah. Mostly required you to be smart with resources early on

[vast reef]

So is there still no news on a PS5 ST2 release? I'm assuming it'll be sometime in 2025 but thought I'd ask

[rocky trellis]

Not using cover is 100% a death sentence on master. "What do you mean I can't just rush in like doom guy?"

[celest goblet]

So far they have said it is Xbox and PC only

[vast reef]

Gonna set aside $110+ for ultimate edition

[dense hatch]

most of the difficulty of stalker comes from being low on resources which happens less and less the more experienced a player is

[dense hatch]

this is not true

it is very easy to just snipe people from a distance with a viper 5 in SoC

[celest goblet]

There may be a PS5 version someday but they are not confirming it

[dense hatch]

not even including when you get weapons with actual range

[rocky trellis]

Distance is just as good as cover...

[dense hatch]

same with rushing an enemy

[vast reef]

I find it pretty scummy that Microsoft is making a game that kinda NEEDS the money a exclusive even if it is just for a bit

[rocky trellis]

they might as well not see you at all due to being too far away

[dense hatch]

all it takes is getting lucky with a single burst, and even then the AI struggles with close range as much as the player

[celest goblet]

Microsoft is not making this game

GSC say they were the ones who approached them

[dense hatch]

best way to play the trilogy is constantly on the move

[vast reef]

I know

[vast reef]

Oh ok ok, I didn't know that part. Thank you for clearing that up for me

[rocky trellis]

From what I've understood it's more of them paying back Microsoft for all the help they've got by making it exclusive to xbox/PC

[vast reef]

I hadn't heard that and thought it was just Microsoft being scummy and greedy my bad my bad

Thank you for correcting me

[celest goblet]

I would be surprised if there was not a PS5 release eventually but it is typical not to confirm anything before exclusivity is up

[vast reef]

PS5 releases are usually late, Palworld and Ark Ascended are good examples

Just gives me more time to save up money and play the others

[rocky trellis]

The reason why PS and other console ports are late is that if it's made for PC, it's usually made by a smaller team that can't make a port easily

[vast reef]

I get that

I hear Sony is a pain to work with too

[rocky trellis]

oh did hear that lol... takes a good while to hear anyting back from them

[vast reef]

From what I hear they're very old fashioned and one way

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-bao-uncle-bao-cat-baobao-gif-10039325697820292352

[vast reef]

Which is why we don't get early access games too often or betas and such, or good mods

[hazy helm]

what do you mean by this

[rocky trellis]

when it's a small team making a game there's rarely anybody at all with required experience to port it to consoles, or simply not feasible to do while still working on the game

usually that means you have to stop working on the game to port it, or at best do minor updates/bug fixes

[hazy helm]

if the team is small sure, but how that is related to PC Games I dont know

[vast reef]

I understand that, that's mainly why I'm not being some (insert rude/bad word that'd probably get filtered) about the PS5 release date. I get it may eventually come but it's a small team and there's a lot going on. I'm just glad the game is being funded and made at all

[rocky trellis]

in general PC games tend to be made by a smaller team on average, due to the massive amount of indie games

[hazy helm]

GSC is not small by any metric

[vast reef]

Yes but they're in the middle of warzone. Doesn't matter if they're small or AAA/AAAA

[gaunt burrow]

"By May 2022, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2's development resumed after the team had been relocated to Prague, allowing them to continue working safely. One former GSC Game World developer, Volodymyr Yezhov, was killed in action near Bakhmut in December 2022." -GSC Gameworld early 2023

[vast reef]

Oh sweet

[rocky trellis]

it's nice that Phasmo is finally coming to consoles... but is it xbox only or PS too? Only saw announcement about Xbox recently

[vast reef]

Glad they got relocated

[vast reef]

I've only seen stuff about Xbox

[hazy helm]

GSC has about 250-500 employes and call themselves a Triple A studio

[vast reef]

I've always heard them be called a small studio, thank you for correcting me on this

Seems like 90% the info I hear from people is wrong lol, thank yall for correcting me and telling me all this

[silent shore]

The real fear is hard mode being “You die in 1 hit but enemies can tank 200 headshots from gauss rifle”

[rocky trellis]

if they follow the formula of their earlier games, harder difficulties do not make enemies harder to kill, but might just make it easier instead so it's easiser to die but also easier to kill

there's basically only 2 bullet sponge type enemies, and one of them only kind of

burers can take a good while to kill if you do not exploit the moments of no shielding, but those damned pseudogiants eat bullets for breakfast

[celest blaze]

I disagree with this hard lol

Companies only make ports if it's profitable to do so

[gaunt burrow]

PC Master Race

[celest blaze]

Consoles are just lesser computers afterall

[rocky trellis]

Even DRG that sells really well took a long while to finally do a port...

same with Phasmo

it's not as simple as "is it profitable?", but rather "is it profitable... and is it even feasible currently?"

Phasmo had to nerf a map for PC because of the console port

turns out it's not as simple as "just port it, ez"

[static compass]

PS as well

They released the trailer on Playstation's channel for PS5 and PSVR2

[rocky trellis]

oh nice

many probably get to experience that game for the first time

[clever vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/j%26d-kitty-gif-10368791297347099509

please dont lie 😭

[rocky trellis]

anyway, porting from PC to consoles is sometimes much harder than doing it to other way around simple because PCs can be more powerful than consoles, so you might have to make changes to the game to make it possible

best example would be doing nintendo ports... oh god I pray for anybody who has to do that

[static compass]

@loud gate I saw that post you made on Twitter about the mods, I'm hype

[gaunt burrow]

i agree with Mozi. in the trilogy even master difficulty wasn't too hard (for me at least, with exception of annoying CoP missions when you had to protect your allies)

other than that, everything was easy. i assume S2 wouldn't change much in that regard

[static compass]

I'm playing on Stalker difficulty and every engagement is life or death for me, skill issue I suppose

[rocky trellis]

taking on mercenary bases first few days of the game in CoP was also fairly hard, and a lot of fun

never picked up that sniper for that

[gaunt burrow]

i guess some of us are just so used to master difficulty that it also became easy asf lol

[celest blaze]

Let's not forget stalker never was this hardcore single player arma milsim survival game

[rocky trellis]

what I do at that hydro power plant is sneak in, climb into that pipe and then slowly whittle them down with AK, then when I'm sure there's not too many of them left I exit it and hunt down the rest

[hazy helm]

stalker was hardcore for the time due to the inclusion of damage percentages and bullet drop and shit, but these thins are normal nowadays

[celest blaze]

Gamma and anomaly have tainted peoples perception of the series imo

[hazy helm]

they arent hardcore anymore

[celest blaze]

Fair

[rocky trellis]

or weapons jamming

[hazy helm]

its like when you tell someone Quake is a horror game and they tell you youre a fucking prune

[rocky trellis]

hilarious to try use 10% condition weapon

[crisp ruin]

or Richter sleepin on bed and watchin him

[gaunt burrow]

[rocky trellis]

stalker too is a little bit of an horror game if you don't play horror games much

or rather, at all

[clever vapor]

i played anomaly. it was very hard.. with a controller lol

[hazy helm]

Based Prophet
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1643320/discussions/0/4701287093716964317/#c4701287261345488395

[gaunt burrow]

bruh

[clever vapor]

and i finished it. hardest run ever lol, was easy at some point tho

[gaunt burrow]

Anomaly and original games aren't the same no matter what

i thought we were talking about original games only? Anomaly is just a mod

[rocky trellis]

Sometimes I wonder how the hell did I put up with that damn controller when I played Halo as a kid?

[clever vapor]

i dont even know how i finished anomaly with a controller 😭 took two hours or more to remap, find the correct script etc for the controller

[strange breach]

heyo

[gaunt burrow]

hi

[rocky trellis]

Wait wait wait... there's no peaking around corners in stalker 2? Shaking my Q E keys right now

[strange breach]

how's it going stalkers?

[gaunt burrow]

so far so good, wbu?

[strange breach]

THERE ISN'T?!

[clever vapor]

play it with a controller if you a real one.

[rocky trellis]

I went to check GSC answers and google tranlated one of the questions that got negative reception

[strange breach]

I'm good, starting today I'm gonna try learning Ukrainian

[magic oasis]

Imagine if they released the game early that would be sooo cool 😄 really cant wait to play this game

[gaunt burrow]

no. PC Master Race

[hazy helm]

the lean keys are now z and c

q and e are quick use keys for meds and bandages

[gaunt burrow]

oof, that's gonna be uncomfortable ngl

[rocky trellis]

ohh...

[gaunt burrow]

at least we can change it in settings, right?

[rocky trellis]

yea, if you're on PC changing keys it pretty simple even if the game doesn't agree with you

[magic oasis]

This game is marked down to be on geforce now aswell so cant wait to play it 🙂

[rocky trellis]

but there's basically no games that don't allow you to change keys these days

[gaunt burrow]

yeah, i assume that S2 will give us opportunity to change keys via settings. it should

[magic oasis]

Hopefully it deffo realeases on 20th of november without anymore delays ❤️

[rocky trellis]

just makes me wonder why the negative reception to that question, it's not hard to swap keys around. I basically have to do that a little bit for almost every game these days

[gaunt burrow]

wouldn't count on another delay

[magic oasis]

so u think we will get another delay?

[rocky trellis]

a game doesn't have dodge/sprint on shift? BACK IN THERE!
Space not jump? BACK WHERE YOU BELONG!

[gaunt burrow]

not really

another delay is very unlikely imo, but who knows

I mean i still remember how 5th September was supposed to be the final date

[magic oasis]

I Hope Not Been waiting so long to play 🙂

[magic oasis]

imagine if they released it early hahah cuz they are the publishers aswell 😮

[rocky trellis]

hm, think you just got a promotion?

something changed on screen at least

[hazy helm]

just change keybinds

[gaunt burrow]

👍

[rocky trellis]

hardly an issue really. you'd think that everyone is used to changing keybinds because a lot of games don't want to stick to the old formula us old farts of late twenties and older are used to

[celest goblet]

Yeah I plan to remap some stuff, though I can see the idea behind those binds

[rocky trellis]

if you have a "gaming" mouse, or just a mouse that isn't old ass model with no mouse 3, 4 and 5 those make less sense

[strange breach]

I won't be able to play on release so that wouldn't affect me too much

[rocky trellis]

by default no game uses those, but it's easy to swap keys around to those and no need to resort to inconvenient keys for common actions

[strange breach]

not because I don't have money for the game, I don't have money for a PC that can run the game 🥲

[celest goblet]

I have a PC that can run the game and money for the game but not much time to play games

[rocky trellis]

might have the same issue if steam deck doesn't run it... I could get a proper gaming PC but the timing is kinda bad. Need to keep that saved up since I'm not sure how much I'll have to spend elsewhere next few years

[strange breach]

I need to prioritize my time better, I play way too much video games

[rocky trellis]

hadn't bothered to get a proper gaming pc for a long while since "AAA" games have sucked ass for a long while and only bought few of them, and rest of them Steam deck has been running well enough

[crisp ruin]

All "aaa" games sucks hell

[strange breach]

yeah same, Stalker 2, Half-Life Alyx, the Metro series, and Dark Souls are the only AAA games I want

and Ghost of Tsushima

[rocky trellis]

metro exodus and Elder Ring run pretty well on steam deck, even on 1080p

[crisp ruin]

I hate them all, no innovation, brain dead stories (like trying to be with "modern" gamers) and devs being cringe and mean. I've seen it

[rocky trellis]

eh... oldest games didn't have much of a story either

it's PS that has been pushing those movie games, and before that story driven games

[crisp ruin]

and that made games stay in mystery about lore but it did

[rocky trellis]

guess nintendo too

[strange breach]

well and Zelda but that's on my switch

[rocky trellis]

Witcher 3 would be good if you don't have it. Unfortunately seems like it will be the last good witcher game.

[strange breach]

I've heard good things about it but I haven't looked at it yet

tbh indie games are so good these days that I don't even get excited about AAA games

[clever vapor]

Yes PC MASTER race, with a controller pluged in 👀

[rocky trellis]

pretty much. The game doesn't have to look amazing, as long as the gameplay is good it's great... but looking good is a really nice bonus if the game is actually good

[clever vapor]

all games looks good to me now tbh, stalker2 looks very good.

[strange breach]

if a game says it's designed for controller I'll use a controller but thats about it

[gaunt burrow]

no

[rocky trellis]

There's still games made that look more like older graphics, still looks good but seems like a lot of console players would disagree with that

[celest goblet]

I play a lot of different types of games. Lately I've been super hooked into Stellaris (again). Put over 900 hours into that game. I will be nice and ready for an action game again when S2 releases

[strange breach]

I wonder which outcomes in Call of Pripyat will be canon according to Stalker 2

[clever vapor]

yeah i'm just joking around, im just a console player who just arrived on pc master race two years ago, i'm a MKB noob, way better on controller, only bg3 i played it with MKB lol

[rocky trellis]

some of those outcomes have been revealed already, such as Herman making return, we know what happened with bandits vs. loners in Zaton ect.

[strange breach]

oh lol

[rocky trellis]

Herman bad ending was no more funding, good ending he makes a break through

[strange breach]

true

I'm really curious about Strelok, he has to be at least mentioned in the game seeing as he's one of the most important characters in the series

although doesn't he leave the Zone in one of his endings?

[rocky trellis]

I got the impression that was just temporary

[celest goblet]

Well we happen to know he appears in some fashion now. His model appeared in the making of documentary

[strange breach]

maybve

[sour goblet]

l

[strange breach]

oh that's cool

[celest goblet]

Though what his role is and how major it will be is unknown

[sour goblet]

k]

[rocky trellis]

was he related to that mission in gameplay trailer?

there was some kind of science mission in the gameplay trailer

[strange breach]

although it might've just been because he was initially supposed to be the player character until he was replaced with Skif

[sour goblet]

what? which game is this

[celest goblet]

We don't know that for sure right now, but maybe. Only one month until we find out

[sour goblet]

oh

are you guys talking about stalker 2

i was just typing in random stuff earlier

[strange breach]

Call of Pripyat

[strange breach]

true

[rocky trellis]

There, a wild Herman

[empty gorge]

dont u literally have streloks nickname when he leaves the zone?

[rocky trellis]

#📰┃announcement message

[sour goblet]

no, i think he joins a science team or something, like black mesa

[empty gorge]

wich is outside the zone isnt it?

[rocky trellis]

check the announcement link, there's the answer of what happened to Hermann

[empty gorge]

been a while since i played CoP

[strange breach]

yeah but there are 2 endings for him

he can die in the evacuation and takes the secrets of the Zone with him

[gaunt burrow]

Strelok surviving CoP events is canon since SIRCAA is a thing (it got created directly because of his knowledge too)

[sour goblet]

i was talking about the individual ending

[empty gorge]

or leave the zone and join a science group tho

[strange breach]

oh ok

[empty gorge]

strelok in s2 confirmed

[gaunt burrow]

we don't know canonicity of other CoP endings but some endings we do know

for example Strider surviving is canon since he appears in S2. Deg destroying bloodsucker lair at Zaton is canon as well, since Skadovsk is still a thing and didn't got overrun by bloodsuckers

[rocky trellis]

and bandit ending since Skadovsk was taken over by them

[sour goblet]

what if bloodsuckers were freaky

[rocky trellis]

it seems to be mostly some inviduals like Vanos we don't know about yet

[gaunt burrow]

not necessarily tbh

bandits having control over skadovsk doesn't necessarily mean that Deg helped bandits lorewise

[rocky trellis]

I mostly mean the result of the ending is what happened, but not how

[gaunt burrow]

not to mention how much time passed between CoP and S2, even if Deg took stalkers side bandits still could take over sooner or later (and they did just that it seems)

[sour goblet]

12 degtyarevillion years..

[gaunt burrow]

it would make more sense for Deg to remain neutral though, at least in stalker vs bandits conflict

[rocky trellis]

could be likely that he didn't side with either of them and that's the result

[strange breach]

do we have any idea of how long it is?

[rocky trellis]

could make sense that he just wanted to complete his mission and didn't partake in faction "politics"

[gaunt burrow]

CoP happens in 2012, afaik S2 happens decade later, in 2022

Deg probably only took side in Freedom vs Duty war (afterall, Strider had to be recruited somewhere)

[sour goblet]

what does afaik mean btw

[gaunt burrow]

afaik = as far as I know

[sour goblet]

oh ok thx

[strange breach]

I see

[gaunt burrow]

more important question is in which faction Strider got recruited lorewise

i hope GSC will answer such questions

[sour goblet]

so do you guys think the military left the zone?

i havent heard much of s2hoc's lore

[rocky trellis]

Duty, because then you could call the game Call of Duty

[gaunt burrow]

Fairway members did (assuming that they didn't died lorewise), but other militaries no

Cordon military still would be there and control the entrances

[rocky trellis]

that MG probably as popular as ever

[sour goblet]

#🤨┃stalker_memes message

[celest goblet]

Though now we have the international perimeter security force in addition to just the Ukrainian military

[gaunt burrow]

I'm guessing this is canonical ending slide of Skadovsk @rocky trellis

"Skadovsk became home to any and all who could reach it. Fierce stalkers resistance did not stop the bandits from making regular (and ultimately unsuccessful) attempts to establish their so-called "order" on the ship. Despite the ongoing struggle, the Skadovsk carried on its unique brand of life."

[worthy urchin]

4w, 1d, 8h, 35m, and 58s

[sour goblet]

[strange breach]

why is Degtyarev's name in English romanized as his Russian name?

[granite mortar]

We know bandits overthrew it eventually tho

[strange breach]

it should be Dehtyaryov

[crisp ruin]

[rocky trellis]

for one reason or another, the Russian versions for a lot of words were the commonly used ones until recently

[gaunt burrow]

its pretty wacky ngl, basically skadovsk ending doesn't even matters at this point

[rocky trellis]

and barely anybody knows any better unless informed

[gaunt burrow]

outcome is the same anyways

[sour goblet]

what if instead of major degtyarev it was freak degtyarev and instead of researching helicopters he got freaky with them

[hazy helm]

what if, instead of brainless idotic messages, you actually spoke like a normal person

[sour goblet]

[crisp ruin]

bro is waiting r34 of degtyarev

[gaunt burrow]

you would love it wouldn't you?

[strange breach]

that would be so cool

[crisp ruin]

since he is based on real person, NO

[sour goblet]

i did not know that

[crisp ruin]

LEAVE THE ACTOR ALONE

[gaunt burrow]

Alexander Poshtaruk, real-life counterpart of Deg

#📸┃screens_and_videos

[alpine ibex]

Hey guy, anyone known if they've added binoculars in game in stalker2? Or the vanilla never have it in the anyway?

[gaunt burrow]

wdym? binoculars exist in trilogy

[sour goblet]

what do i do if i accidentally kill noah and his dog

[alpine ibex]

Well any confirmation in stalker2? Because the preview gameplay dont have any?

[granite mortar]

Reload a save

[sour goblet]

ok

[gaunt burrow]

this

[sour goblet]

i did it on accident again

[gaunt burrow]

no idea but it wouldn't make sense for GSC not to add binoculars again, considering they were in all 3 games

[still ridge]

True

That being said, I haven’t seen any mention of them.

@loud gate you might know?

[sour goblet]

where the hell do the main characters keep getting binoculars from

actually i think i know where degtyarev got his from

[rocky trellis]

from the prison pocket, like all characters in video games. Where else could all those items be stored?

[gaunt burrow]

asking questions that can't be answered

[sour goblet]

what if we just swallowed the items instead.. like 10 pseudodillion more inventory space..

[gaunt burrow]

[rocky trellis]

forbidden snacks. Just eat artifacts whole

[sour goblet]

strelok consuming bowl of artifact cereal

[gaunt burrow]

maybe all main characters brought binoculars with them when they entered the Zone?

[sour goblet]

i cant believe it's all fireballs!

[finite dragon]

Does anybody know if the limited edition will come with all the story expansions

[sour goblet]

arent they all military field binoculars?

[rocky trellis]

mmm... spicy meatballs

[gaunt burrow]

dunno, i'm not very well versed in such stuff

[sour goblet]

on the topic of consuming artifacts what artifacts do you think would be the tastiest and which would be the most disgusting and awful

[gaunt burrow]

Wikipedia refers to them as "military grade binoculars"

[sour goblet]

you can buy military field binoculars off wolf's scouts leader in the beginning of soc

they look nearly the same

[gaunt burrow]

got a screenshot of that as well

its description is just "Military field binoculars"

[sour goblet]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Binoculars_(inventory_item)

[loud gate]

[granite mortar]

But now question arises
What do you put inside the bowl first
Swamp water or artifacts?

[sour goblet]

both because its gonna taste the same anyways

[granite mortar]

No it wont

[rocky trellis]

cereal science is important

[gaunt burrow]

Actually hold on. Theres a very high chance that both Strelok and Scar served in the military at 1 point. In many parts of the world military service was compulsory, and I'm pretty sure that many people in the Zone has served

[dense hatch]

someone said they were removed

I don't remember when but it was brought up

within the past couple weeks I think

[gaunt burrow]

1 stalker at Rostok even directly stated that he served 2 years

[sour goblet]

my grandfather, my father, and i think my uncle all served in the military a few decades back

[dire dagger]

Bros got an insider

[gaunt burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/s/izM9hg2aO9

I actually created post about characters who served in the military or in the law enforcement

[loud gate]

Binoculars are in the game, but can't be used by player.

[gaunt burrow]

All dialogues are in the games

[crisp ruin]

[gaunt burrow]

Ngl, cringe

[loud gate]

Maybe that is changed, or idk.

[rocky trellis]

sniper scope best scope. Comes with the additional benefit of being able to listen to impulse demons telling you to press the trigger

[granite mortar]

Especially old people like Scar

[gaunt burrow]

Yeah

[sour goblet]

lassie the goat

[dire dagger]

Uh no what about the scrapped dialog 🤓

[sour goblet]

being added back in now that you said that

trust

[granite mortar]

Lassie is a dog dummy

[gaunt burrow]

[sour goblet]

[still ridge]

Shame. I guess that makes scopes much more important

[sour goblet]

is it worth sparing the dudes at the substation? ive always done it and never looked back

[still ridge]

You get fine tools

[sour goblet]

and if i kill them i dont?

[still ridge]

You do but it’s just easier to give them a little food

It’s not like it’s hard to come by

Plus you can hire the squad in a quest later for a good reward

[sour goblet]

true

[still ridge]

also they’re the only non-hostile mercs in CoP which is pretty cool

[normal quail]

@wraith socket on what difficulty do you play cotz?

[polar orchid]

would it be wise to pre-order yet?

i got my moneys for digital ultimate edition now

[indigo marsh]

Scar lost basically everything in the emissions (minus the AK in 1.5.10 but the other versions don't have it)

[polar orchid]

how likely is another delay

[celest goblet]

Very unlikely

[indigo marsh]

So he likely still had them or got them for Clear sky

I mean for Marked one he still might have it from before or maybe he was given it by the scientist or maybe even Sid gave it to them

[gaunt burrow]

I think he was given another binocular by Clear Sky offscreen

[indigo marsh]

We know that Clear Sky buys from the military so we can assume they have plenty

[gaunt burrow]

Same with Strelok. Sid could give him 1

[lofty swan]

Hey guys I have a question, what is the multiplayer mode going to be ?

[indigo marsh]

I am guessing PvP like in the trilogy.

[lofty swan]

open world gamemode would be fun like dayz

[lofty swan]

Is there any official statement on it ?

[ruby warren]

Yeah he officially guessed it

[polar orchid]

open world online stalker would be amaze balls

[granite mortar]

Ni

Open world multiplayer would be sovless slop

[rocky trellis]

coop could be fun, but hard to balance

[celest goblet]

Just feels contrary to the essence of the series. Someone else can try it

[polar orchid]

stalker but extraction shooter

[lofty swan]

so no official statement on what the multiplayer is 😦

[gaunt burrow]

Check #📸┃screens_and_videos lads

[lofty swan]

oh man

[rocky trellis]

stalker battle royale when?

[lofty swan]

just add multiplayer open world servers with random spawns

[granite mortar]

Return to the Zone

[lofty swan]

battle royale would be fun too

[indigo marsh]

No but there is this article from The Gamer released on December 2021
https://www.thegamer.com/stalker-2-multiplayer-update/

[lofty swan]

Arena deathmatch would be boring

[polar orchid]

if stalker was an mmo you would for sure find a bunch of randoms goofing around and just hanging out in the zone, unlike most games where people are only motivated by carrots on sticks

[rocky trellis]

it would probably be just bandit simulator

(if pvp is always on)

[indigo marsh]

Yeah

But a more official guess would be a guess from Spartan Mozi

[rocky trellis]

step 1: Find an anomaly
step 2: Hide and wait
step 3: Have somebody else find the artifact
step 4: Kill and steal
step 5: Get killed by another team of player bandits

[polar orchid]

step 6: eat bread and drink vodka

[indigo marsh]

Yeah a stalker MMO definitely would be cancer

[polar orchid]

tbh it wouldnt hold much of peoples attention unless it had magazine management and hundreds of loot items and stats to grind

crafting and building

[hazy helm]

they said it wouldnt be like dayz nor would it have coop

[lofty swan]

ah its deathmatch than

or maybe battle royale

[north violet]

I've always wondered, is there somewhere I can stash that AK until I can find ammo for it?

[indigo marsh]

Any of the blue bins found around the map or any stash that you find

[hazy harness]

Oh my, PvP
I sincerely hope it'll be more than some deathmatch or ctf variant. We could have asymmetrical PvP (stalker vs mutants), standalone coop missions taking us through past events in the Zone to add lore and depth to characters
They have such a treasure trove of conceptd, characters, monsters to build up on

[gaunt burrow]

Yes. You can find a lot of blue boxes in the maps. At the Swamps I only use blue box thats located at Machine Yard

[north violet]

@gaunt burrow Thanks, never bothered to Google that even after all these years.

[quiet crest]

Isn’t STALCRAFT an MMO?

[gaunt burrow]

We don't talk about Stalcraft

[lofty swan]

yeah thats minecraft thop

[celest goblet]

yeah though it's just ripping off the aesthetics of stalker, it's not an official game

[north violet]

Honestly my main reasons for pre-ordering are that I really don't want to lose out on that additional sidequest and the extended campfire content.

[quiet crest]

Oh y’all mean an MMO created by.. GSC… Yeah, that would prolly not be very good.

[lofty swan]

not mmo

[rocky trellis]

btw did Survarium have anything to do with GSC or the original stalker devs?

[lofty swan]

just like dayz , 70 player server survival

[quiet crest]

ah ok

[north violet]

I think the dev team on that was at least partially made up of old GSC people, but that's as far as the connections go.

[celest goblet]

I just want stalker 2 main game. Then I can worry about more

[hazy harness]

I don't doubt they'll deliver on that

[rocky trellis]

just thinking that there could be possibility of something similar being done with stalker pvp

[north violet]

I think 4A Games (the Metro folks) was also founded by former GSC team members.

[rocky trellis]

pretty sure yea

[north violet]

I wonder if the G36 will be as broken as it was in CoP.

[rocky trellis]

didn't come off as OP to me, just best option among the best options

at least for assault rifles

[north violet]

Idk man, with the right upgrade path that thing turned into a laser accurate bullet hose that just melted everything.

[hazy harness]

Multiplayer is not what will make or break S2 anyways but I really would like to have a fun, interactive ways to share the experience with other players, see them build up on all they've created to have maybe less story focused experience or stuff like that

[rocky trellis]

own preference ultimate became Vintar BC/Tide. Nice for 1 tapping

[gaunt burrow]

GP37 my beloved

[north violet]

Oh yeah, the Vintorez was my other main runner, that thing is versatile as hell.

[indigo marsh]

GP 37 smoked in Clear sky

[rocky trellis]

has the benefit of not using expensive ass ammo that is a bit more painful to stock on, faster fire rate when you need it

[dense hatch]

it smoked in every game

[gaunt burrow]

Real

[dense hatch]

good scope, good accuracy, good firerate, good-ok durability

[north violet]

Even though the F2000 had a build-in grenade launcher, I really liked the G36 more.

[dense hatch]

I think the only downside is that it can't fit a grenade launcher

[rocky trellis]

with lack of grenades to buy, not big deal

[indigo marsh]

I evaporated so many loners and protected the loner base while waiting for reinforcement for a really long time and the only thing that prevented me from holding out longer was the condition of the gun

[north violet]

The real gun has a grenade launcher attachment too, which made it even more disappointing that we couldn't get it in-game.

[still ridge]

Yeah and it was awesome

[north violet]

Yes, yes it was.

[dense hatch]

the f2000 is great, shame it's impossible to get early in SoC and CS without bugs to my knowledge

or at any point besides the end

[still ridge]

G36 probably has a grenade launcher in S2

It should anyway

[dense hatch]

I think it's just carried by monolith in the inner corridors in SoC and I have no idea how you get it in clear sky besides being given one at the end

[still ridge]

Otherwise I’m using the HK416 or IWI Carmel

[gaunt burrow]

M203s description in SoC actually says that it can be attached to GP37 but it actually cannot

Same with X8 scope in Clear Sky and hunting rifle

[north violet]

I really liked the assault rifle the Mercenaries primarily use. Can't remember the in-game name or the real life name, but it's the one that looks like an M4. Only downside was how shit its durability was.

[celest goblet]

GP37 enjoyer here. I'm pretty happy it's back

[dense hatch]

trs 301

I think it's getting cut, that or the worst nato weapon

[worn oar]

Based

[hardy turtle]

no announcement, it's snorkover

[gaunt burrow]

TRs 301 is fairly decent

[indigo marsh]

And even at 60% condition it didn't jam on me/ rarely jammed on me. It was just me restocking that made me go to restock.

[north violet]

I could live without the LA580 or whatever that model is.

[dense hatch]

yeah it's pretty terrible

[worn oar]

Are you asking to be spoiled? It's been barely a week now

[north violet]

It was okay but only after you fully upgraded it, and even then it's still outclassed by so many other assault rifles.

[celest goblet]

There will be more to come I am sure. Mozi will have a new trailer this week at least

[north violet]

Has GSC actually confirmed that any previously seen weapons were being cut/not returning?

[dense hatch]

I'm glad uniques are making a return

there was a weapon list and it wasn't on there I think

[still ridge]

I mean yeah it seems like the HK416 is the replacement

[rocky trellis]

Hopefully unique weapons are more unique, like maybe upgrades that you cannot have normally

[still ridge]

Btw we saw it with a drum mag briefly

[dense hatch]

also how we know that the vintar is being renamed

[north violet]

I'm fine with that, I think the HK416 is a cooler gun anyways.

[still ridge]

Looks like it gets a 50 rounder

[dense hatch]

oooh

[indigo marsh]

It's so burover

[dense hatch]

also unique visual designs would go hard

[north violet]

It fits the role anyway; standard-issue Western assault rifle that's super modular.

[still ridge]

Yeah I think it will be my go-to AR for mid game

[north violet]

Same.

[indigo marsh]

I think the M16 would be a better replacement for the TRs-301.

[still ridge]

Once you get past the AK phase lol

[normal quail]

but we want lethal company with guns

[north violet]

Pair it up with the Vintorez and I'll be a happy man.

[dense hatch]

are any weird weapons like the gauss rifle being added?

I don't know if there was anything about that

[north violet]

Gauss rifle was shown in a trailer.

[rocky trellis]

Lethal: We already have guns at home

[dense hatch]

besides the gauss rifle

[ruby warren]

It’s not a phase mom, AK all the way through

[north violet]

Oh apologies, I misunderstood you.

[normal quail]

but they dont sit arund fire and eat seet corn

[north violet]

Are we still getting the OTS-14 GROZA?

[celest goblet]

GP37+Shotgun is what I am expecting to use for much of the game. Perhaps the Lavina for close quarters situations

[dense hatch]

it would just be nice to have some more interesting weapons that were truly unique to the franchise

[rocky trellis]

I'm going for Saiga, it's such a good shotgun

[north violet]

Yeah, more crazy experimental weapons would be cool.

[rocky trellis]

feels good to reload ALL of the ammo in 1 go

[still ridge]

Might see some of that stuff in labs but probably not in the players hands

Testing workshop from CoP type stuff

Would be sweet

[dense hatch]

some sort of flamethrower would be nice

[celest goblet]

Gauss gun will be back but yeah something else would be cool to see

[dense hatch]

or any close range weapon with a similar level of style

[rocky trellis]

knives: welcome to London, mf!

[dense hatch]

I think it's just one melee

[rocky trellis]

think bayone could be interesting... but do have to wonder how many weapons can have it

[dense hatch]

here it is

[rocky trellis]

it's missing Saiga, pretty sure I saw it in a list GSC gave

[dense hatch]

they gave a list?

[granite mortar]

R700

[north violet]

Oh yeah, has GSC said anything about the system requirements changing? Last I saw the stuff on the Steam page hadn't changed.

[still ridge]

They haven’t been updated once afaik

[normal quail]

what games does thorny way needs?

[granite mortar]

Its in the spreadsheet

All the info you could possibly need is there

[north violet]

I would figure if they needed to update the requirements they would have done so at this point with how close release is.

[dense hatch]

lame

[granite mortar]

Yes

[dense hatch]

I was hoping for something more sci-fi

[rocky trellis]

Now, I don't remember exactly details, but I'm pretty sure I saw some weapons that have been confirmed by them in a text form or in a video...

[still ridge]

Gauss rifle is good enough for me

[rocky trellis]

thought I saw Mosin and Saiga being confirmed weapons that time, that's all I really remember

among many old weapons, of course

[dense hatch]

more unique designs would be nice

[celest goblet]

Yeah I don't think system requirements are changing

[dense hatch]

also just because it would be fun to use something that wasn't the gauss rifle that was just as strong

[still ridge]

We haven’t seen mosin in game. I don’t think it’s making the cut

[rocky trellis]

I thought I saw in a list but for some reason I'm not finding it anymore...

[still ridge]

We’ve seen artifact powered weapons, why not artifact powered suits?

I’d take that

[dense hatch]

exosuits kinda fill that niche a bit but it's an interesting idea

exoskeletons?

what's the naming for that one unique in SoC?

[granite mortar]

Fangs exoskeleton

[north violet]

Saiga
Oh God, yes please, I need a select-fire shotgun where I don't have to reload one shell at a time.

[rocky trellis]

I'm starting to wonder if that was a player made list of "confirmed" weapons and not made by devs

the one that had saiga and mosin in it

[dire dagger]

There’s an m14 ebr and mac10

So I’m hyped

[rocky trellis]

well saiga at least sounds plausible enough to be added

[north violet]

Half the upgrade tree is just fire rate and durability upgrades.

[dire dagger]

1000 rpm m14 was be nuts

[north violet]

Honestly I'm happy to see the Bizon too, it always felt weird to me that there was only one SMG in the entire trilogy.

[granite mortar]

EBR (1951)?

The armoured car?

[granite mortar]

Marked one what the heeeell

[north violet]

Wait, S2 won't have vehicles will it?

[crisp ruin]

[dense hatch]

they compensated for that with like 6 new submachine guns

[north violet]

Nice.

I hope we get a least one chambered in 5.7.

Feel like we'd need to have at least one that isn't completely useless against armored targets.

[normal quail]

chamoy do you like tarkov?

[still ridge]

Saiga is in, but mosin probably not

[rocky trellis]

thank god... don't care about Mosin after all, kinda meme weapon

just attach bayonet to it and you have a powerful melee weapon

[lofty swan]

can you become part of a faction in stalker 2

[hazy helm]

yhea this looks like shit

[still ridge]

It’s not even an M14 afaik

It’s an M1A

[still ridge]

Don’t worry, that’s not even the gun that’s in the game

[hazy helm]

I know, it looks like shit regardless

[still ridge]

Take that back

https://preview.redd.it/s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2-images-on-the-epic-games-store-were-quietly-v0-w9w6o1rqwkcc1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6e2866c60aba4409ed78bc704cf2d20ec0bb4fe7

[rocky trellis]

okay finally found it, that was the list I remembered 😂

[dire dagger]

M14 ebr is full auto

[granite mortar]

Why is Elementary School Dnipro on the list?

[dire dagger]

Mate thinks I’m lying

[worn oar]

#📜┃gsc-answers message
This is something worth highlighting

[still ridge]

True, but it’s not an EBR

[dire dagger]

What be then

Cus m1a is wooden I’m pretty sure

[indigo marsh]

No. 1954.

[granite mortar]

Lame and gay

[indigo marsh]

The EBR 1954 not the EBR 1951

[indigo marsh]

It's just a 3 year difference

[still ridge]

Not necessarily

[granite mortar]

Lame

[still ridge]

Looks like they took an M1A with the non-wood furniture, gave it a 20 rounder and made it full auto. We don’t even know what it’s called in game yet

[dire dagger]

True

So it’s basically a diy Vietnam m14

[rocky trellis]

could be a unique weapon too

[dire dagger]

With some polymer bits

[still ridge]

The version in stalker 2 is like a kitbash of the original fuck auto M14 but with modern polymer furniture like a civilian M1A

No pistol grip, so it’s not an EBR

[celest goblet]

Someone mentioned at some point in here that those weapons made their way into use in Ukraine

[dire dagger]

Pistol grip mod

But either way

Is cool

[still ridge]

Yeah, I hope it gets a high powered optic

[dire dagger]

Since the map is more open high power optics will actually be useful now

[still ridge]

Also because there might be no binoculars

[finite dragon]

what

how is there no binoculars in stalker... 😦

[still ridge]

Ikr

[dire dagger]

There might be

We don’t know yet

[gaunt burrow]

Mozi said they will be in the game

[rocky trellis]

join the supreme sniper race and always have a way to zoom in

snipers might just become a bit more viable since we have dedicated pistol slot

if we can mod them to be good enough in close to mid range

[sour goblet]

can you do anything with the notebooks and pdas and other crap you get from dead people?

[celest blaze]

??

[dire dagger]

I never used them to be real

[sour goblet]

(other than selling them to owl)

[dire dagger]

[celest blaze]

I did sometimes

[gaunt burrow]

nope

[celest blaze]

I used them more on cotz/gamma/efp tbh

[sour goblet]

superb

[gaunt burrow]

you can just sell those

[sour goblet]

i love money

[celest blaze]

War fighter is such a good mod honestly

[still ridge]

With respect, mozi is not a credible source

[hazy helm]

the M14 would look better if it didnt have that ugly ass mount on top but it looks good
the EBR version is straight dogshit

[granite mortar]

I dont think I ever used binos in any CoC fork
maybe Legend Returns
But for sure in no CoM fork

[gaunt burrow]

ooof size large

[celest blaze]

I had to use it in cotz master difficulty plus warfighter combat is super deadly you can get smoked easily even in an exosuit

[hazy helm]

its like the kinda ppl who modernise their fucking BAR by putting skeleton furniture and putting tan and mounting ports all thruout

it looks like SHIT

[celest blaze]

Mono liked to hide

[gaunt burrow]

why do you think that Edillon?

[still ridge]

I will not elaborate beyond saying I would not take any source outside of GSC at face value

[finite dragon]

implying gsc knows whats up

[dire dagger]

It’s gotta take nato scopes

[celest blaze]

Ngl you can't really make a claim like that without a source

[gaunt burrow]

the sky is up. the clear sky

[hazy helm]

you the kinda guy to do this to a BAR

[gaunt burrow]

aight

[finite dragon]

jetpack in stalker when

[celest blaze]

Ew

[still ridge]

Le “hcar”

[gaunt burrow]

ew fr

[rocky trellis]

now that you worded it like that, sounds ironic

[still ridge]

Just jump into an anomaly

Same result

[celest blaze]

Stalker 2 will have jetpacks

The Ukrainian military has advanced significantly

[north violet]

Bro what? They make the game world bigger and they get rid of an important scouting tool like that?

[granite mortar]

literally springboard anomaly in Goldsphere

[hazy helm]

you will be able to zoom like you would in Arma

[north violet]

I don't like that.

[gaunt burrow]

i don't buy that there won't be binoculars or that you won't be able to use them

[north violet]

Yeah, that sounds like a really weird thing to get rid of.

[gaunt burrow]

i just don't buy it

[rocky trellis]

btw, that one recent video in media showed what happens when you die in the game, that isn't stuff right?

[north violet]

Didn't Metro add binoculars once they went semi-open world in Exodus? I can't remember.

[dire dagger]

Nah

[north violet]

It's moments like this that make me wish I could ping a GSC employee.

[indigo marsh]

The regular M 14 looks better than a EBR

[rocky trellis]

Anybody a bit disappointed with the death "animation"? Wish it was like the trilogy since it was satisfying to see the consequences of your own actions play out for a bit

[north violet]

*dies and watches as body is exploded by an anomaly*

[gaunt burrow]

agreed

[rocky trellis]

hopefully there be a mod to change it to oldschool style death screen

[hazy helm]

this is true for most shit that gets modified tbf

I WISH we still had shaped handguards that werent just fucking mounting port squares

[celest goblet]

Next OP-2 feature

[indigo marsh]

We should have the M1a which does look aesthetically like a better M 14

[granite mortar]

No more grenade explosions throwing you through windows

[celest goblet]

Ragdoll physics are funny so yes

[rocky trellis]

or comfy loop of anomaly deleting the remaining bits of your body out of existence

bet the view would be glorious if our bodies reached the center of those massive springboard looking anomalies

[loud gate]

rock literally said they can't be used by player)

[lilac wind]

SoC question is the enchanced rifle mission from the duty warehouse repeatable ? i want to keep the sniper tr300
but if i give it it give me a vintar bc *supressed sniper
but i dont have good source of that ammo yet

[dire dagger]

Agreed

But there also kinda insanely rare

[loud gate]

If you check the weapon wheel, there is no binoculars. Unless rock made mistake (Which I doubt), binoculars aren't going to be usable by the player.

[hazy helm]

fitting for stalker

[dire dagger]

True lol

But there’s only like a handful of full auto m14s still out there

Most were converted to semi auto

[loud gate]

BTW, I think some people will appreciate this clip with all in-game sound and native press quality: https://x.com/Stalker2News/status/1848220165311492471

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 News (@Stalker2News) on X

Pure example of A-Life doing its thing.

Skif was fighting some dogs, and then a pack of Flesh came to ambush them. What happens after is chaotic battle between the three parties.

And remember that your weapon is not only the gun you handle, but could also be the environment

Twitter · Oct 21, 2024, 4:30 AM

[broken latch]

No, take the Vintar

You can find ammo for it

In secret spots

Like 500 of it I think

[lilac wind]

vintar can be found later for free in freedome base

[broken latch]

+monolith and duty/freedom drops in in red forest and above

[broken latch]

Better to have 2 than 1

[lilac wind]

well i like the sniper tr300 if the mision is not repeatable i'll keep it

[lethal orchid]

Gorgeous

[opaque vortex]

That's a shame if true was nice to scope out a situation with binoculars

[finite dragon]

In stalker 2?

[alpine ibex]

Flashlight dont cast shadow? I just noticed most of current preview the flashlight dont cast any shadow at all? Even on pc

[loud gate]

with HW RT, sure. I think it wouldn't look that good with Lumen anyway

[loud gate]

yea

[finite dragon]

Ngl Limansk has to be the most terribly designed area out of any stalker game

[alpine ibex]

😆 nah the silent 2 remake are amazing with software lumen

And it got shadow for flashlight

[loud gate]

silent 2 remake are amazing with software lumen
@vernal magnet

[broken latch]

Why

[loud gate]

I saw what you deleted... Tommy...

[calm bough]

[finite dragon]

Mostly because it's just really confusing your first time being there.

[finite dragon]

Tf

I especially don't like the invisible walls everywhere despite one of what I believe is an intended path you had to get to by jumping on an irradiated fence. I say this because I'd be surprised if it wasn't intended considering there was an invisible wall almost everywhere. It almost felt more like some kind of cod campaign map or something rather than a stalker map.

[finite dragon]

Nah I think it's Jupiter it's so empty and desolate

[finite dragon]

That's kind of what S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is known for, and one of the things I like about it. I have no real issue with jupiter and many of the other locations besides soc wild territory being a bit wack.

[broken latch]

Yeah it's a city that you're the first time in, ofc it's confusing

It's actually nice to have a more close quarter map

[finite dragon]

I guess but that doesn't make it fun to me, if you like it that's fine.

But it was definitely the least fun part about my clear sky playthrough so far, I do like the cqb sections they are very intense but I have to redo it from the start because I did it while I was on my sleeping medications and ended it with 3 bandages left. Maybe I'll have more fun today, hopefully.

[untold karma]

Is cat planet in your bio "cat planet cuties"? Or

And hello I swear timer is longer now

[finite dragon]

I think limansk and the hospital was the worst part for me

[lethal orchid]

Same because I didn't prepare

[worthy lagoon]

Ur terribly designed, you GAMMA LOVER

[granite mortar]

literally Trophy AKM..

[lethal orchid]

Although that's slightly on the game ngl, they made it seem like we needed to rush through limansk because otherwise we'd let strelok get away

[indigo marsh]

It's so

So perfect

You just need to aim bc you don't have a scope

[finite dragon]

#💬┃en_offtop

[finite dragon]

?

[granite mortar]

that gun cuts through Limansk and Hospital like its nothing

[finite dragon]

Tbh I've never even played gamma the only mods I've finished are like my slightly modded version of basic anomaly and efp

I just think it's funny

[worthy lagoon]

That's even worse

[finite dragon]

I do wanna try call of chernobyl though

But I'm currently on my task of rebeating all the Vanilla games on master

[lethal orchid]

Try a story mod

The story mods are really good usually

[worthy lagoon]

Play RTTZ

[lethal orchid]

RTTZ is goated yeah

[broken latch]

Spatial anoamly

[worthy lagoon]

He's a masochist he must suffer

[indigo marsh]

Goldsphere OGSE

[worthy lagoon]

NLC 7

[broken latch]

Me when cool spatial anomaly that soft locks every 39 seconds

[indigo marsh]

Or Joint Pack 2.2

[finite dragon]

Can someone explain what ogse/OGSR is

[worthy lagoon]

Different Xray engine

Modified

[rocky trellis]

Spatial anomaly: when you enter it the game crashes to desktop and corrupts your save file

[dense hatch]

it's a linear section similar to the CNPP, except the design is more obviously linear

it has some great sections like the wall of warpers in exchange so I don't hate it too much

[indigo marsh]

I was more confused on my second playthrough

On my third it was less confusing

[dense hatch]

there's only a couple sections that are particularly bad on a first playthrough like that one house by the river

[finite dragon]

Story mods aren't everyone's cup of tea. My main fascination with stalker's gameplay is the a-life and how everything kind of just exists on its own without needing "scripted" in to make it feel more simulation like. Most of my gripes with anomaly are that there's too much consistency between the areas like I could get a full empty in the cordon if I had a good enough detector, I hate that, and another good example of this in anomaly is how there will be like a pseudogiant in the garbage or smth, but I also played anomaly on easy so maybe it was that idk.

[indigo marsh]

The one where the CS squad has only a few boxes and barrels for cover?

[dense hatch]

yeah, and you have to go through the right side of the house

[finite dragon]

So freeplay mods?

[indigo marsh]

I thought that part was fun

[hazy helm]

basic OGSR configuration

either that or Global War

[rocky trellis]

something is weird about freeplay mods and CoP areas. In freeplay mods those areas just feel lifeless

[finite dragon]

Exactly, like random buildings in Jupiter

[dense hatch]

it's fun when there are enemies, just finding the entrance was somewhat annoying

[granite mortar]

SoC with bunch of mew quests and in OGSEs case progressively worse writing

[hazy helm]

bc they are configured with the same AI spots and A-Life spawns that the OGs had, which were few and far between and very simple

CoP I mean

[rocky trellis]

it just doesn't feel like CoP kind of spawns at all. In CoP you usually see multiple mutant/stalker spawns in most areas each day. Every time I enter Area around Jupiter there's basically nothing, and the Yanov station feels just as lifeless

[indigo marsh]

The area with the machine gunner was fun on my first run but I kept dying to them which made it progressively less fun. That and the construction site but it got easier on later runs since I got used to constantly moving.

[dense hatch]

I think it's because they don't

In CoP because it's such a small area they compensated with high variety and many different spawns

[hazy helm]

yes, that is intended, otherwise quests break

[dense hatch]

anomaly doesn't really carry most spawns over and because they placed it so far north stalkers barely get over there

besides the handful that just spawn there

it also probably doesn't help that they used maps from the most visually boring game

[rocky trellis]

oh well, at least S2 should finally address all these problems and make that bigger map work.

but I can't help but wonder how they're going to integrate SoC maps into an open world. Those small maps don't exactly feel open due to kinda crammed space. Not all of the areas, but many of them

swamp is much easier to see how it could be integrated since it's already very open area

[stuck pewter]

I kinda hope certain maps will only be accessible through valleys and ditches

[rocky trellis]

would make having an open world somewhat counterproductive...

[stuck pewter]

Like, its open world, but you still have to follow the beaten path or else die like the lore

[rocky trellis]

all you really do is remove loading screens

[stuck pewter]

The zone guides exist for a reason

[rocky trellis]

Some areas for sure need to be far more restrictive how it's accessed for story purposes, but if that is the same everywhere...

[stuck pewter]

If everyone could simply travel to yanov without help then pilot wouldnt exist as a character

Lorewise

[dense hatch]

that never really made much sense to me

[rocky trellis]

you could, they just know a safer route

[stuck pewter]

Barack Obama

[sand fiber]

Old Good Stalker is an extremely old SoC vanilla+ mod, Old Good Stalker Evolution is a fork of that with more content, Old Good Stalker Revolution is a fork of OGSE with even more content and a forked engine

[sonic flax]

I'd be very surprised if you could just walz straight into Pripyat right after the tutorial

[hazy harness]

Pripyat speedrun any%

[sand fiber]

i mean you can do that in SoC

[sonic flax]

Well, Stalker 2 will be different though I think

despite it being a seamless open world this time around

[dense hatch]

people can clearly cross back and forth without help

[stuck pewter]

I guess but that sounds kinda boring if the not safe ways are not extremely dangerous

[dense hatch]

like magpie and gary

[rocky trellis]

also a lot of time has passed. It would be reasonable to expect that those safe routes would be more common knowledge

[dense hatch]

like what makes them more dangerous than the rest of the zone

[sonic flax]

Keep in mind that in the recent previews, which people were able to play the lesser zone was sectioned off by a broken bridge, iirc. So there might be some limiting mechanic in place initially.

[sand fiber]

i mean this is just basic open-world design, every game that respects the player's freedom lets you go wherever right from the start

[stuck pewter]

Yes but the zone is known to be a changing place, in clear sky its said that a lot of formerly safe routes are completely impassable after the emission

[stuck pewter]

Breath of the pripyat

[rocky trellis]

Game: Feel free to go to these dangerous areas... feel free to die a horrible death

[sonic flax]

Yes and no. I wouldn't mind if you could go straight north but I think there might be artificial or invisible borders, e.g. a checkpoint making it impossible to cross because you'd get immediately shot. Maybe you'd have to clear it during a story mission etc.

[dense hatch]

those are the worst

[stuck pewter]

I prefer an artificial barrier to accidentally blue balling myself from the entire game

[sonic flax]

I am mostly curious about the new sections of the zone tbh. I wanna how the snow area/arch anomaly looks like and if there's a giant fish in the cooling pond.

[stuck pewter]

They better do pure open world right

Otherwise its gonna be iffy

[dense hatch]

like fallout does a decent job of open world with locations just not being accessible in ways other than physical

[sand fiber]

the only tolerable tutorial section was in Cyberpunk 2077, and even then

[sonic flax]

The question I am having is: Was the lesser zone sectioned off specifically in the preview build or will it be sectioned off initially in the full release as well?

[stuck pewter]

I dont like how fallout does it much

I just dont like fallout

[dense hatch]

the barrier being mostly enemy strength?

[stuck pewter]

Nah i like that, i just dont like how fallout does it

[dense hatch]

which one

[stuck pewter]

That also wouldnt really work in stalker anyway

Stalker isnt level based or an rpg

[rocky trellis]

enemy strength being the barrier feels far more natural and doesn't limit your freedom

[sand fiber]

i mean it kinda already does thoughhhhhhh

[dense hatch]

that's more equipment tier and not having a reason to be over there

[stuck pewter]

I like how soc keeps you from entering certain areas by saying "if you dont have the psy helmet you are DEAD"

[sand fiber]

also stalker is an rpg i will die on this hill

[rocky trellis]

you start with crappy gear that is far from suitable fighting rich bois of the zone

[dense hatch]

why go to dark valley directly in SoC if you have nothing there

CoP just drops any sort of barriers except the main quest to a mostly empty third area

[stuck pewter]

I used an ak74 until i got to the brain scorcher in soc

Crappy gear can absolutely get you into high danger parts of the zone

[naive fog]

AK-74M ain't even bad

[rocky trellis]

and not starter gear either...

[stuck pewter]

I was using a regular ak74

[dense hatch]

I think they mean like pbs

[stuck pewter]

The ones you get as early as like the garbage

[naive fog]

AKS-74U?

[stuck pewter]

Ak74

[naive fog]

Base stalker??

[rocky trellis]

Ak47?

[stuck pewter]

I swear it had no letters

[naive fog]

Was it shortened or nah

[indigo marsh]

It's a decent gun tho

[dense hatch]

it's akm

[stuck pewter]

Ak74/2

That was the one

[naive fog]

Yeah so AK-74M. There is no AK-74 in base stalker

[dense hatch]

the fast shooting akm is also just good

[stuck pewter]

It is not

I hated using it

[dense hatch]

it is, I just checked

oh you mean the shortened one

[stuck pewter]

It worked, but 3 headshots to kill an exo is annoying

[dense hatch]

500 rounds a second with a short reload

also VERY good durability

[finite dragon]

Yeah, my dream is to make a mod at some point (unless stalker 2 does it already), that applies chances for all of the situations that could happen to the player in scripted events to npcs(and the player if it only happens in scripted events to the player). For example you never see bandits and loner npcs being neutral anywhere, I would make it so that like maybe for example, bandits could rob the player or other stalkers randomly through a-life and the chance would be higher for this behavior to activate in a bandit squad depending on if the player/stalker is in a group of stalkers or not, the stalker npc or player can choose to either give them money or shoot them. The stalker npc will also have a higher chance to fight back depending on their equipment and zone experience and bandits will be less likely to rob stalkers with better suits. If the neutral loner were to give up his money and or artifacts, the bandits would spare him and they would remain neutral. The next zone day bandits would be more likely to rob this same person or if they see them. If the neutral stalker refuses the bandits robbing, the bandit squad will become hostile to the now slightly less neutral stalker. If the neutral stalker kills the bandit/bandit squad, they will now be slightly hostile to the bandits and vice versa, now the loner will be hostile to the bandits specifically in whichever area this event took place for the following zone day(s) and vice versa. This would now make this loner npc/player 1/10 total points hostile with the bandits and 0/10 total points friendly and 1/3 area points total hostile. If this loner npc killed another group of bandits the same day at the same place he would then be hostile in this area for like 5 days and so on so forth with the whole points system. I could explain the idea for this whole points system if you want me to, but know that I could honestly fill a whole an entire book with all of these hypothetical a-life situations.

[stuck pewter]

Hoyl shit

[granite mortar]

I aint readin allat

[dense hatch]

stats are not user dependent

[naive fog]

Goddamn 💀

[sonic flax]

TLDR

[finite dragon]

It's unfinished too.

[granite mortar]

My seal is better

[rocky trellis]

A wall of text appears

Average discord user: MY EYES!

[naive fog]

Pls learn to summarise

[indigo marsh]

It is different tho

[finite dragon]

If I summarize it, it sounds like such a basic concept that could mean so many things.

And I still feel that way about what I said I didn't get time to say enough.

[rocky trellis]

adding a bit of space between different parts would help too

like write this way

Like this

Yea?

[naive fog]

Yeah, paragraphs

[indigo marsh]

That's not like a works on my machine seal tho

[finite dragon]

I'll just write a Google document.

[granite mortar]

Please dont

[granite mortar]

Omg
Thanks :3

[stuck pewter]

This ones my favorite sticker

[dense hatch]

wonder how many suits there are

[stuck pewter]

2 piece

3 piece

Bucket

[dense hatch]

[clever cedar]

you talk too much

[dense hatch]

nah

just not concise

[finite dragon]

Well I'll try to summarize it, I just want all the npcs to do things that would normally be scripted events without being scripted and every squad of npcs and the player being regionally hostile or regionally neutral or regionally friendly depending on FACTORS and having a point based faction relationship system for every squad of npcs and the player which would also be sensitive and less sensitive to all of these FACTORS depending on the faction.

[naive fog]

Basically, you want the Npcs to be more alive

Good idea

[finite dragon]

Yeah, and I already have most of it together in my head but I'd have to be typing for days to get every idea out.

[finite dragon]

Never heard that one before

[naive fog]

I talk to little lol. Pretty much everything is summarised. At least irl

[finite dragon]

And this is why I think I should just save all of this damn stuff to learn to mod stalker so I don't get all of my creativity and motivation out on a box of text instead of just making it really exist.

[naive fog]

I can come up with good ideas but don't wanna put in the work

Maybe when I'm less busy I'll try learn something

[worthy lagoon]

What the fuck is this

[naive fog]

I summarized their summary

[granite mortar]

Basically play OLR

[finite dragon]

I got my yapping unleashed and then like 25 minutes of typing(atleast) passed and I released I need to shut up and cut myself off.

[worthy lagoon]

Nooo don't cut yourself :(

[finite dragon]

What's that

[granite mortar]

._.

[indigo marsh]

Oblivion Lost remake

It tries to recreate everything in the design docs for Stalker SoC back when it was called Oblivion Lost

[finite dragon]

Listen I don't got time to play every stalker mod out there when I also want to beat extreme demons in gd and trying to claw my way up to being a top spam challenge list player so don't judge me for not knowing every mod name 😭

[granite mortar]

Its literally one of the most popular mods

[finite dragon]

I've heard of it before didn't know the abbreviation

[granite mortar]

Like its not even something obscure like Alternativa or Escape from the Zone

[finite dragon]

Escape from the zone

💀

[finite dragon]

I knew that oblivion lost remake existed I just didn't know the abbreviation of it😭

[granite mortar]

Yeah sure...

[indigo marsh]

Isn't escape from the zone like aight at best ?

[finite dragon]

I'll play it

[granite mortar]

[finite dragon]

Is escape from the zone like an escape from tarkov mod like efp, sigma...

[indigo marsh]

No

I am pretty sure it is a story mod

[finite dragon]

Crazy to think anomaly is literally just a freeplay mod without the popularity and all that

[indigo marsh]

I mean you hear of Goldsphere and you here of Return to the Zone but you don't really hear about Escape from the zone

[granite mortar]

EftZ is obscure mod
Its pretty kino tho

[indigo marsh]

Ohhhhh thats why it is called RETURN to the zone

It is because he escaped the zone first and now is returning to it

[granite mortar]

Well yeah

You play as the same character
And the events of EftZ are refferenced through out RTTZ

[indigo marsh]

And there is only a machine translation

It is kind mysterious why. Unless people considered it the worst of the series.

[hazy helm]

crazy to think that anomaly is literally just a freeplay mod despite the popularity and all that

[naive fog]

True

[finite dragon]

gamma sucks ass and dick

worst thing i have ever seen

If I were to attack gamma, the graphics wouldn't be where I would go

[timid mango]

How do I mod stalker on XBOX?

[granite mortar]

Thats the neat part
You dont

[hazy helm]

https://www.stalker-game.com/en/modding

[granite mortar]

Literally made using stolen graphic packs that dont even look that good

Still better than the ugly grey mess that are base anomaly textures

[naive fog]

The standard anomaly added maps still have no quests too

[granite mortar]

[naive fog]

Like honestly why even add new maps if you are gonna barely have any missions

[granite mortar]

Because you want to increase the numbers

Anomaly players are like Apple users
The go after numbers that mean absolutely nothing

[naive fog]

So true

[granite mortar]

Oh my god
1000 Nit display?!
No idea what that even means but I HAVE TO BUY THIS