⭐┃nospoilers_general

[pseudo rivet]

Other than Flint, Pilot and the Duty NPC, no

[gaunt burrow]

wanted to post screenshots of morgans dialogues

i finally collected those in my last CoP playthrough

[wraith socket]

It's rare to get Flint and Morgan in the same screenshot.

[pseudo rivet]

I don't see how, but sure

[wraith socket]

Ghost called him a neutral, right?

[finite dragon]

when are the physical preorders supposed to arrive?

[worn oar]

He did yes

[wraith socket]

When will Putin die? Both answers are not soon enough.

[finite dragon]

because i got this and i dont rly believe it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738123148100239404/1282994484464058428/image.png?ex=66e16139&is=66e00fb9&hm=0f987b55817b87d436588b1daf88724dae7ebb2205ebd0ab106dcd062395f3f8&

[wraith socket]

The way I feel about Stalker 2 is, when it is released, none of us will have to ask. The news will be everywhere.

[gaunt burrow]

@wraith socket first time I took Morgans side

it's interesting but i don't like that in the end you just gotta kill everyone again

[worn oar]

Is he really depicted as a merc or not?

[gaunt burrow]

kinda wish it was a bit more sophisticated of a quest path

[pseudo rivet]

Wait

Leshiy was a Merc before he joined Freedom. There's a Vintar BC at the Army Warehouses

But he wore a Sunrise Bodysuit, not a Merc suit

[gaunt burrow]

eh, i wouldn't account that Vintar for the lore element tbh

[pseudo rivet]

Every stretch is a possibility

[gaunt burrow]

many things in gameplay don't make sense and even directly contradict the lore. like anabiotics in X8

[wraith socket]

When I helped out Morgan and the two Mercenaries, I did it without killing any Loners or Bandits. That really pissed Morgan off.

[worthy lagoon]

For the PC edition GSC will send an email with the Steam CD key and the goodies will probably arrive after release

[gaunt burrow]

daaamn just when I thought that I collected all dialogues theres always a new one lmao

interesting indeed. props to GSC

[finite dragon]

thought they were supposed to arrive before but ok ig

[sly matrix]

delays happened

[worthy lagoon]

50€

[wraith socket]

The reason why I wore an Exo and carried only a pistol, was to have room for all the loot.

[gaunt burrow]

makes sense

[pseudo rivet]

Doesn't to me, but alright

I instead just make screenshots of inventories to figure out loadouts of NPCs

[gaunt burrow]

[sly matrix]

help me out for a moment, how do you keep Morgan alive? never experimented with that mission

[gaunt burrow]

basically you take Owls mission, then help Morgan and kill all hostile NPCs

after receiving reward from him go to Jupiter and he sohuld be there

[sly matrix]

ah

[worthy lagoon]

Or simply take the transaction job but skip the appointment

That way Morgan will also be present in Yanov

[pseudo rivet]

Basically fail The Hit and then take the job from Owl to help Morgan

[wraith socket]

My favorite way to play CoP is Man of Balance & Diplomat. I can play a complete game without killing a single Bandit anywhere in the game.

[gaunt burrow]

based. Man of Balance my beloved

[wraith socket]

I also turn Tuna and his two men into allies.

[sly matrix]

getting man of balance and a full squad for pripyat underground takes some know-how though

[gaunt burrow]

i love how much details Call of Pripyat has

[sly matrix]

turning magpie in at duty/freedom for points to have them adopt strider and then going to Gonta to talk about magpie for man of balance is really weird

[gaunt burrow]

for example you can give memory module to novikov, show heart of oasis to beard, owl and hawaiian

other quest related artifacts too

[wraith socket]

The best thing is if you fail to recruit Strider into a Faction and he doesn't make the trip to Pripyat , you can return in Free-Play and get Strider and his men into Freedom.

[gaunt burrow]

wait so he and his guys will still be at Jupiter after the story?

interesting since Hatchet and his mercs just dissapear after story ends if you won't recruit them to guard the scientists bunker

[wraith socket]

Yes, if you fail to get them into Freedom or Duty, they remain there in Free-Play. I was goofing around when I discovered how to get them into Freedom in Free-Play. However you have to have a specific Achievement to accomplish this.

[gaunt burrow]

aha

never knew about that 1. i just knew about Hatchet and his guys dissapearing after the story

[wraith socket]

Let me ask you, the Mercs that ambush you at the Jupiter Plant. How do you like to engage them?

[pseudo rivet]

Tejas, what's the full Fang's Killer question?

[pseudo rivet]

Assault rifle personally, although there is a Protector there

[wraith socket]

You mean the three questions I posted hours ago?

[pseudo rivet]

Yup

[gaunt burrow]

i just killed them as fast as possible with Strelok's SGI, was bit in a hurry because I wanted to discover dialogues I never had before

[wraith socket]

Did you stay in the room with the document? Did you move to the hallway?

[gaunt burrow]

move to hallway

[pseudo rivet]

Move for me too

[gaunt burrow]

ayo

[pseudo rivet]

1. Mercenary and two Bandits
2. Limansk and Red Forest
3. Leshiy

[wraith socket]

You're going to love this. The room when you grab the document...I jump out the window. Then I run around to the other side and ambush all the Mercs on the ground floor coming out of the building in that choke point.

[gaunt burrow]

wow. gotta try it as well

[normal ocean]

Zone Reclamation Project for SHOC and SRP for Clear Sky, both are pretty vanilla bug fixes, with any gameplay changes being optional.

[wraith socket]

What 2 Bandits?

[pseudo rivet]

I jump down the stairs, usually

[normal ocean]

Also wow originally the final map was the ONLY time you got the FT-2000 in CS?

[gaunt burrow]

Ghost's message in detailed description of "Find out what happened to Ghost" task

[pseudo rivet]

The two we meet in Limansk, directly at the entrance

[wraith socket]

No, the ZRP is a huge Mod with massive changes. It actually retards SoC and makes it easier. The dude that made it, I know him, he has created more bugs working on the ZRP for 16+ years than it ever fixed.

[gaunt burrow]

no. you can get FTM in Clear Sky base as well

[normal ocean]

It's been awhile but aren't all of the easy changes optional in ZRP?

[gaunt burrow]

after you help Leshiys mercs and Clear Sky in capturing the Red Forest bridge

[normal ocean]

Plus you can make the game harder by letting the AI use grenades again.

(NGL sad that apparently the Console version doesn't come with that)

[wraith socket]

You don't need the ZRP to finish the game.

[normal ocean]

Yeah but I like having "restored" AI with melee/grenades

(No idea if the console versions that apparently have a few additional bug fixes restores any of it but it's a shame if it isn't)

[normal ocean]

So you just had to buy it instead of being a free reward

NGL I do wish CS at least had Veteran STALKERS from a few groups use the FTM/GP37

[gaunt burrow]

if you lower Red Forest bridge in CS then you can receive 50k RU and FTM from Suslov

its basically a reward

[normal ocean]

Yeah but according to people, that was actually a patch change.

(Similar to the inexplicable AK in Scar's inventory at the start.)

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

[wraith socket]

Yes, originally the reward was the CS-1 armor.

[sly matrix]

wouldn't these be bandits that got stuck on the other side of the bridge after the emission like Leshiy's group? By the time you encounter them Fang's presumably already dead?

[wraith socket]

Fang is killed somewhere between when Scar is in northern Limansk or the Hospital.

[normal ocean]

NGL I do wish we saw more about CS development, I am very curious if Fang was originally intended to be fought in Clear Sky

[sly matrix]

then it can't be the singular limansk merc because he dies in a scripted event

[normal ocean]

The Army Warehouses feel kinda underused plus Scar is often depicted with the Vintar

[pseudo rivet]

It's kinda tricky actually, because technically, the way it's written in SoC, Fang died when Strelok was unconscious, so technically he was already dead when Scar started searching for him, but this isn't the case

[gaunt burrow]

not the only NPC with Vintar though

[wraith socket]

It's not about what they designed or intended but didn't use. It's all about the clues we are given and applying them to what we see in the Games.

[normal ocean]

Clear Sky plot hole moment

[gaunt burrow]

random monolithians in CoP carry Vintar, veteran loners in CS as well as Streloks savior

[normal ocean]

Yeah as it stands, Scar didn't kill Fang but it feels like Clear Sky was going to set it up but they ran out of time/budget to have it.

[gaunt burrow]

in original game Scar never even encountered Fang, even though he was after him

[normal ocean]

(Strelok doesn't even have a proper model in CS lol)

[gaunt burrow]

his focus changed to Strelok

[wraith socket]

GSC changed their mind. They had Lebedev tell Scar they would take care of Fang...and they did.

[worn oar]

Is it the savior?

[normal ocean]

That'd be a hell of alot of irony lol

[pseudo rivet]

They're also close to the Red Forest and obviously close to Clear Sky, which means they could have gotten in contact with Leshiy and then receive the mission from Clear Sky

[gaunt burrow]

real

plus somehow Fang has a grave in Pripyat in SoC even though he died at Army Warehouses

[wraith socket]

Exactly. If you are already in Limansk, then you can watch where these two Bandits go (if you let them live) whereas many people might let them die or kill them.

[wraith socket]

Fang's grave in Pripyat was a false grave, just to hide the Exo. No one is going to drag a dead body from the AW to the RF and then Pripyat.

[normal ocean]

uh oh

I may have ran into save corruption in Clear Sky

Quick save - Crashes right away

Last Manual Save- loads where my quick save is despite being on a different map then crashes

[sly matrix]

one could argue that Fang killed his assailants but was mortally wounded and died later in Pripyat. This would mean there would be corpses in the army warehouses. not sure about bandit corpses, but I know for sure there's a ''decorative'' mercenary corpse in the bloodsucker village.

[gaunt burrow]

it still doesn't make sense imo. why would someone carry his Exo all the way to Pripyat when he could've just hid it in Army Warehouses grave?

[normal ocean]

I know there's the theory that Fang was mistaken dead in either location but later died for real.

(Probably the game dev reason is they wanted to move the free exoskeleton but forgot to change the other part.)

[wraith socket]

NEVER NEVER NEVER use quick saves or quick loads. They overwrite each other and are limited to two or so. If one gets corrupted (and they do easily) then you have nothing.

[pseudo rivet]

I think they go back to the Red Forest? I honestly forgot

[gaunt burrow]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W8DFML-6MdvDBN25gz9p47FlCxX1QeId/view

[pseudo rivet]

I believe they did, but it's been too long ago

[normal ocean]

Nah don't worry I have like 5 manual saves

[gaunt burrow]

Fang and Ghost make their way to the Army Warehouses, where they are ambushed. Fang is killed by a stalker Shtyr. Ghost leaves

[wraith socket]

Exactly. And who is the first person they meet walking down that road?

[normal ocean]

I just quick save when I'm too lazy to open the menu

[gaunt burrow]

GSC should've just canonized Shtyr ngl

[pseudo rivet]

Either Lebedev, Clear Sky members or Leshiy

It kinda depends on how loading times are meant to be

[wraith socket]

There is only one person Scar meets who knows him by his name and does not call him Merc.

[granite mortar]

Its not really an issue unless you want to do 100% playthrough
I usually use quicksaves and do one manual save after every 10 or so quicksaves

[pseudo rivet]

Leshiy, pretty sure

[sly matrix]

that would be Leshiy, yeah

[wraith socket]

Leshiy killed Fang. In Shadow of Chernobyl he hides in the Freedom Faction and wears a gas mask, so you can't see his face.

[pseudo rivet]

Awesome, I solved it

[gaunt burrow]

timeline doesn't really adds up though, Leshiy and his guys were stuck in a space bubble, and Lebedev said that they'd take care of Fang and Ghost after Scar got robbed by those 2 bandits

so Leshiy and his guys would still be in a space bubble during that time

[pseudo rivet]

Not those two Bandits

Oh, wait, I know what you mean

[wraith socket]

It all adds up. Believe me, we hashed this all out on the GSC Forums over 15 years ago.

[pseudo rivet]

Still, perhaps they simply didn't have the time to do it yet

[worn oar]

@pseudo rivet we solved it

[gaunt burrow]

how would Leshiy possibly be Fangs killer if he: 1) had a different mission 2) got stuck in a space bubble. after he got freed Scars and Clear Skys focus was already Strelok

[pseudo rivet]

Fr

[gaunt burrow]

why would Clear Sky hire Leshiy after he got freed?

considering they were already at Red Forest and were preparing to get Strelok

[pseudo rivet]

This was AFTER he got freed

[wraith socket]

Scar meets Leshiy in the RF off on the left side of the road, at the camp with the blue chest across the road from the bus stop. They talk. Scar goes to Limansk and then the two bandits arrive in the RF and Leshiy takes them with him for the job Clear Sky paid him for.

[pseudo rivet]

Clear Sky's focus was Strelok, but they still needed someone to go after the others. Leshiy and those Bandits are a good fit

[wraith socket]

What other Mercs are there? It sure isn't Hog.

[sly matrix]

dead ones

[gaunt burrow]

alright that does sound logical but what about this dialogue?

[pseudo rivet]

In the Red Forest? Only Leshiy's group

[gaunt burrow]

"Whoa, brother! What kinda question is that? The seal of contract is like the seal of confession, only stricter. No way I can tell you about it. Then again...aww what the hell, you did save our lives, after all. Listen. We agreed to locate a very rare and incredibly valuable artifact for one large corporation. I won't tell you which because of a non-disclosure clause. We found what we were looking for. How we did it is another story, but no amount of money will ever make me accept a job like that again. I value my life more than these watermarked pieces of paper. I had a rotten feeling about the job from the very beginning. But the money was just too much to turn down. As I feared, the whole raid turned into a nightmare. And just as we turned back home, loot in hand, bam! The Emission nearly buried us all, plus that stupid space bubble. Nah, no more orders like that - count me out."

[granite mortar]

Wait
You mean those 2 bandits that warn you about the Limansk ambush?

[gaunt burrow]

that count me out could indicate that Leshiy was already done with being a merc

at least that's how I always interpreted it

[willow spoke]

@red spruce congratulations for being the first femboy stalker.

[pseudo rivet]

She isn't

[willow spoke]

Oh full trans, my bad

[worn oar]

We were discussing him earlier, me and crimson in DMs. We kinda felt it and he was one primary suspect. The Vintar we can find in the freedom base seemed fitting the case. Leshiy was the only valid suspect. The only part we couldn't pin is the bandits. Were they the ones in limansk (Crimson's idea), or some other duders

[gaunt burrow]

generally this dialogue always gave me the impression that Leshiy was simply done with being a merc

[willow spoke]

Man I wish I had the bandits trenchcoat....

[worn oar]

Enough with that. If it's a joke, I'd say it's a bad one.

[willow spoke]

What is it then I'm trying to be supportive

[worn oar]

Perfect, these were the bandits

[granite mortar]

Thanks

[worn oar]

Then the suspects are valid.

[wraith socket]

There are no other Bandits in the RF or AW until these two arrive just in time for Leshiy, a Merc to hire them to go along.

[sly matrix]

How could it have been those bandits if I didn't spare them like CS did

[pseudo rivet]

See?

[gaunt burrow]

@pseudo rivet @wraith socket how do you guys interpreted that dialogue?

[gaunt burrow]

based

[worn oar]

Crimson had a good eye for details, I suspected leshiy and said he might be the one, and he mentioned the bandits and it all went smoothly afterwards.

[pseudo rivet]

And yet, despite hating Space Bubbles, he joined Freedom

[worn oar]

Well done crimson

Ooof

[gaunt burrow]

ok good point lol. well played

[pseudo rivet]

Technically Renegades, but those aren't Bandits

[wraith socket]

That's the beauty of it. Why did GSC even create this scenario if it didn't have some ulterior meaning? The Player can kill Leshiy too for that matter. Clear Sky is full of variables. You can kill every single Bandit in the game or you can kill none and still get the same ending.

[granite mortar]

Those are gods of zona

[pseudo rivet]

Real

[worn oar]

Yeah! The bandits find fully goes to you brother

@worthy lagoon we found the killer

[pseudo rivet]

We actually thought the same about Leshiy. I didn't know you thought the same as well

[gaunt burrow]

i'm still not sure if Leshiy would proceed with that task though, him joining Freedom is him changing his mind but doing merc work again right after getting out of space bubble?

and him saying "count me out"? dunno man

[worn oar]

Only about leshiy, I had no idea who were the bandits until you mentioned the two

I totally forgot about them lol

[gaunt burrow]

many months passed between CS and SoC events so I can kinda see him joining Freedom and changing his mind about the Zone

[worn oar]

You really got me there man

Well done

[gaunt burrow]

but that's not the same scenario here

[wraith socket]

Lebedev said he would take care of Fang. Of course they had to hire whoever was available. Time was short. It took place within hours not days, weeks or months. (I suck at typing fast > always editing)

[normal ocean]

"Fixed" the crashing, turns out the "stalker_leader" (according to the crash text) causes a crash in Vanilla CS so I just ran to Duty

[worn oar]

He did after the job. He helped CS and ig they failed to notify Scar with everything going on that moment. I think they never actually knew the result of the mission. They probably orchestrated it and that's it.

[pseudo rivet]

Him helping Clear Sky and killing Fang could actually coincide with him joining Freedom, as both have a nearly identical ideology. If you also consider the cut bio from SoC, Leshiy considers the Zone his home. If Fang were to destroy it, it makes sense to stop him

[wraith socket]

Fang was dead. Job accomplished. The two Bandits got killed but Ghost let Leshiy go. Why? Don't forget Leshiy was the ONLY Merc in a sunrise suit. Ghost described him as a neutral.

I think Ghost was just two freaked out and overcome with grief to chase the escaping Leshiy.

[red spruce]

Dont worry about the joke, I didnt take offense

[pseudo rivet]

Ghost was always good in slipping away

[solid dome]

Tejas, once more you spoil and you'll be turned into STALKER soup

[red spruce]

Worm food

[solid dome]

AFTER MONTHS OF CONTINUOUS DELAYS
WE MANAGED TO DECRYPT THE
RELEASE WINDOW FOR STALKER 2
THAT IS NOVEMBER 2024
AN ACHIEVEMENT COMPARABLE AT BEST TO
THE PREMIERE OF JAMES CAMERON'S TITANIC MOVIE
I MAY BE HYPED LIKE CRAZY,
BUT ITS A FACT STALKER 2 IS COMING
AND IT WILL BLOW OUR FRIGGIN' MINDS

[willow spoke]

I wasn't trying to joke I legit don't know how to be supportive 😭😭😭

[worn oar]

Well, I think the same. Leshiy was the only suitable suspect from the list I gathered. Everything seems to have gone the way you described. Ghost didn't chase him for multiple reasons in my opinion, but the most likely one is that he was afraid to getshot too

[wraith socket]

General Voronin warns Strelok not to listen to Colonel Skull and his renegade Duty. Most people miss this. The whole time you are talking to Colonel Skull, his second in command in talking under his breath saying about turning him into wormfood. Great hint you are not with good people.

[solid dome]

@worn oar We should take action

[sly matrix]

''I thought we'd be wormfood by now. Come by our base and we'll give you something for your trouble.''

[gaunt burrow]

@solid dome hi Krezzing

[red spruce]

How about you send me some support in the Cordon, east of the farm?

[pseudo rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171602505382236231/1271151328609177680/4012430ace6c963248f20d13c9aa55f38b5097d9.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524246444560089099/1273343062327824508/5cb15c36-836b-41a6-a969-41ec48e8c4ad.gif

[gaunt burrow]

and hi Kira

[red spruce]

Hello, lore guy :>

[worthy lagoon]

Leshiy?

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

[worn oar]

Yep

[pseudo rivet]

Leshiy and the two Bandits at Limansk

[worn oar]

And they 2 bandits scar gave a medkit in limansk

[solid dome]

wASSup

[worthy lagoon]

@old jungle found the one who killed Fang

[gaunt burrow]

doing good, wbu?

[pseudo rivet]

As in, Anomalous did or are you pinging him to show him the answer?

[solid dome]

About to turn Tejas into worm food, its feast time

[wraith socket]

It's my bed time. Gotta lay down and get some sleep. See everyone later.

[worn oar]

Ig the only reasonable reason ghost didn't get shot too and leshiy running away is hmm not enough bullets?

[pseudo rivet]

Goodnight bro

[gaunt burrow]

Ghost lost his friend. very understandable why he didn't chased him tbh

[worn oar]

Yes true

[gaunt burrow]

silencer on black kite wtf

[solid dome]

Damn bro

[normal ocean]

Depends tbh on how the fight went

[gaunt burrow]

anyways good night

[solid dome]

He killed Doc.

HE KILLED DOC.

[worn oar]

But that does not entirely explain why ghost was not shot

[solid dome]

Sound the frikkin alarm, yo

[normal ocean]

They could have thought the other had more allies at the time so both decided to retreat.

[solid dome]

We have a serial killer in the house

[pseudo rivet]

Would love this on the Steppe Eagle, honestly

[gaunt burrow]

good question really

[normal ocean]

Leshiy could in theory have been hit but not killed so he cut and run then

[worn oar]

On what?

[worthy lagoon]

Gn

[granite mortar]

No
Its because Leshiy knew Ghost has to reach X-16

[pseudo rivet]

Because Ghost is good at slipping away

[solid dome]

Man you guys suck, you ignored the fact Tejas killed Doc before he went to sleep...

[normal ocean]

or a similar situation of "I got one but if I try to stay and get the second one I'm probably dead."

[pseudo rivet]

As is tradition

[gaunt burrow]

i assume that Ghost simply got lucky

[sly matrix]

or ghost being ghost

[worthy lagoon]

Ghost is skilled in that so yeah

[sly matrix]

or he got downed but his suit got him up again

after leshiy(or who-ever) left

[pseudo rivet]

Could be, yeah

He does have a "Skinner Anomaly" Sunrise Bodysuit

[gloomy knoll]

Werent you gone?

[sly matrix]

ghost suit, skinner anomaly is a leather jacket

[gaunt burrow]

i got a free week, after that i have to go inactive again

[gloomy knoll]

RIP

[pseudo rivet]

That's why I said it "like this". Besides, both are given properties by an anomaly

[wraith socket]

Oh, I was looking for this earlier but just found it. The Duty Trader spawned in the same seat where the Renegade Trader was killed sitting, now dead in his lap. Priceless.

[gaunt burrow]

🗿

[pseudo rivet]

Yup

[sly matrix]

cozy

[pseudo rivet]

Seen that too

[worn oar]

Next time Tejas is here, we are going to bring up the trench coat guy shooting rats (from the dream cutscene) my guess was always scar, but let's see what Tejas says about it

[wraith socket]

Okay, here it is. Really leaving. Good night.

[pseudo rivet]

[worn oar]

GN man

[pseudo rivet]

Strelok

[gaunt burrow]

gn

[gaunt burrow]

Strelok fr

[worn oar]

trauma caused by scar

[gaunt burrow]

lmfaooo what is this

didn't expect to see this in pinned messages 💀

[pseudo rivet]

It's just Strelok during his first raid

[worn oar]

no

[sly matrix]

A lore-related question just occurred to me

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

[pseudo rivet]

Waddup Dutchie

[sly matrix]

our bodylengths, we pretty tall over here

[gaunt burrow]

Lmao

[pseudo rivet]

I'm not that tall for a Dutchie

[sly matrix]

same...

[gaunt burrow]

You guys love dad jokes don't you?

[pseudo rivet]

Adore, in fact

[sly matrix]

I put in the hours, I'm qualified

[pseudo rivet]

It might be my inner Frisian

In Frisian, "You" is the same as a dove and "can/possible" is the same as wool

We Frisians usually joke about that

[sly matrix]

When you find Ghost's recording in X-16 he wonders to himself ''Where are you Strelok?''. Now I can hardly imagine Ghost not having figured out what happened at the end of CS, which would mean it would be a safe assumption for him Strelok's gone. His comment suggests he knows he's not at CNPP(dead or alive), which he could only know for sure if he went back there and checked.

[cyan canopy]

Matt is back

[pseudo rivet]

Jokes usually translate like this:

You? What are you doing here?
Dove? A dove sits on a roof

[gaunt burrow]

aye. got a free weekened

good to see you Beerman

[pseudo rivet]

I don't think he knows, tbh

[sly matrix]

or jokes about Belgians

[pseudo rivet]

You mean South-Netherlands

[gaunt burrow]

i think him asking that question is already an indicator that he still don't know what happened

he never knew what exactly happened to Strelok there

[sly matrix]

Nah, I respect their sovereignty.(read: wouldn't want Belgium and NL getting back together, because then we'd need to solve their problems )

[gaunt burrow]

so he could assume tons of things

[pseudo rivet]

Real

I think he genuinely doesn't know

[sly matrix]

perhaps

[gaunt burrow]

even if lets say Ghost went to CNPP, there are 0 chances that he found the brainwashing room or whatever laboratory it was

[sly matrix]

could have found PDA entries of monolithians also being confused about where Strelok was at

which... he would not have needed to visit CNPP for to be fair

[oblique thistle]

I haven't seen much of S2 trailers will there be a fully voiced first person cutscene

For Skif

[sly matrix]

looks like

[oblique thistle]

Man

[granite mortar]

Mann

[sly matrix]

Mannn

[granite mortar]

Mann Co

[solid dome]

You damn... MANNEQUINS

[pseudo rivet]

Mannnn

[indigo marsh]

Yes it's:

1. Scars' doppelganger (bandit)
2. Scar who is Reborn
3. Father valerian's doppelganger (bandit)

[pseudo rivet]

Read what we solved?

[gaunt burrow]

[indigo marsh]

Yes. Just trolling a bit

[pseudo rivet]

I know, just wondering if you knew

[indigo marsh]

How did you get that? In my bandit playthrough, they were hostile.

[solid dome]

I'll make all your spoilers in a damn STEW

[worthy lagoon]

@granite mortar damn, didn't know you loved GAMMA

[normal ocean]

Clearly, the killer was the army machine gunner

[normal ocean]

Clear Sky mod where he chases you around in a BTR when

[pseudo rivet]

Weird, they were Neutral to me

[indigo marsh]

In my current run all enemy bandits are neutral to me even without having friendly status with the normal ones

[pseudo rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[indigo marsh]

Only if I shoot them they are enemies

[granite mortar]

Errmmmm

[spring apex]

quick grok

have been sentenced to gamma for 50 days

[indigo marsh]

Also even when they say to come to their checkpoint, which I run through they say "Drop him!" But they are still neutral

[indigo marsh]

We will provide you a installation of gamma since you are banned from there

[gaunt burrow]

Yesh thats wacky bug

[spring apex]

noooooo

[gaunt burrow]

Sometimes they do turn hostile sometimes they say that and still remain neutral

[indigo marsh]

For Chymo

[gaunt burrow]

No idea what causes that

[indigo marsh]

Did you have that?

[spring apex]

also yeah i am banned from gamma server too lol

[indigo marsh]

No wonder you got confused lol

[spring apex]

oh the two renegadis probably somehow take damage and break their sequence and be hostile for some reason

in limansk

try load a save before bridge sequence starts

[indigo marsh]

Here is me hanging out with the besties. #📸┃screens_and_videos message

[spring apex]

i'd say always kill them to save the timeline of fang still living

[dense hatch]

how did fang get robbed by 2 bandits and not get his stuff back

[gaunt burrow]

Stuff is repleceable. Plus Fang had other things to do

[spring apex]

ngl bro this is wayy much time since i last heard leshiy theory. i know where the discussion in forums if only they didn't delete the forums

[dense hatch]

he was robbed after going to dark valley and getting the stuff he could only get from there

[pseudo rivet]

Excuse me, what the Grok?!

[gaunt burrow]

He was robbed at the Garbage. Near Flea Market. He still could get stuff at Cordon, Agroprom or other locations. I'm sure he just thought "f*ck it" and continued his path

[dense hatch]

it's not where it's when he was robbed

[pseudo rivet]

Before Scar

[gaunt burrow]

I think that experienced stalker such as Fang could definitely develop a plan and handle 2 bandits in the open. Its a matter of if he wanted it or not and if he had time for that or not

Plus Fang doesn't seem poor because he didn't haggle for decoder components that are supposed to be quite expensive

[spring apex]

strelok's group got plot armor as big as wish granter

[pseudo rivet]

That explains why Ghost and Fang are dead

[sly matrix]

ikr

[spring apex]

non existent as wish granter

[pseudo rivet]

Real

[marsh dome]

No news

[finite dragon]

[gaunt burrow]

Hi bro. Sup?

[finite dragon]

A word about Scar's return to the Zone!

[indigo marsh]

Also I still wouldn't want clear sky to return as a faction in stalker HoC but I don't mind a bit of survivors of clear sky

I didn't expect the return of Scar (I was betting against it actually)

[finite dragon]

There must have been a logistical support unit, so I would like to know what happened to them, even if it is just an audio log.

[gaunt burrow]

If Scar returned there 100% will be mentions of Clear Sky or even ex members

[indigo marsh]

Nimble

[loud gate]

Nimble literally existing in all games lol

[finite dragon]

But something about the atmosphere seems different from what he used to be.

[gaunt burrow]

I meant unkown clear sky ex members

Not ones we see in the trilogy

[loud gate]

Heh, wouldn't be surprising that ex clear Sky joined ISKRA and Scar

Well, Spark

[pseudo rivet]

They were already, actually

Mentioned, that is

It was in the latest gameplay showcase

[gaunt burrow]

[finite dragon]

Could Spark and Noon form an alliance? What ideology each?

[gaunt burrow]

Very poggers fr

[loud gate]

Like.. depends, I think

[indigo marsh]

Probably under Strider they might

[loud gate]

Also, it's actually Noontide.. but also Noon.. GSC and their namings

[loud gate]

Matt, you up to date with all S2 lore

Like.. Spark/ISKRA being lead by Scar?

[indigo marsh]

SVUA-2 is better than tide

[pseudo rivet]

I guess it depends on who leads them, Strider or Faust. We'll see

[gaunt burrow]

Not yet tbh

[finite dragon]

I am very happy and I eat Faust's wrists today.

[indigo marsh]

I personally think it will be a power struggle

[pseudo rivet]

You mean the SVUA-2, right?

[gaunt burrow]

What is Spark about?

[indigo marsh]

Yes

[indigo marsh]

I hate and The institute -

[loud gate]

You already know them lel

[pseudo rivet]

[loud gate]

It's Iskra from CoP

[gaunt burrow]

Aaahhh

[finite dragon]

Thanks to those who answered!

[gaunt burrow]

ISKRA yeaahh. Ok sounds cool

[loud gate]

Only that they are a proper faction now

Like.. they have their own armours. They're lead by Scar, not Topol. And they fight against Ward and SIRCAA

[indigo marsh]

Shits going down at the institute

[sly matrix]

HA!

[finite dragon]

🤔 Im Fine?

[pseudo rivet]

Or are you...? 🤨

[finite dragon]

Wait, could the faction leader be changed as a Noon on Strider's side or a Noon on Faust's side? That would be too cool, but what happens to one of them ......?

I definitely thought Faust and the members who follow him would form a separate faction.

[pseudo rivet]

That's what I think

[gaunt burrow]

@loud gate ok so whats Iskras goal in S2?

[finite dragon]

That's a cruel choice for me. Because I like both...

[dapper finch]

Noon are probably far too skeptical to buy into Spark.

[loud gate]

Combat Ward.. I assume it's still has Iskra elements

Anyways, I'll be choosing Faust Noontide

[gaunt burrow]

Noontide

[indigo marsh]

I am picking Strider because ||He was a companion during Call of Pripyat even if he was mostly dead weight|| (CoP spoilers)

[dapper finch]

I just assumed that was like Monolith rebrand

[gaunt burrow]

Just noon sounds way better ngl

[finite dragon]

||What if the scene where Strider hands over the empty cartridge pendant is Faust's Noon ending?||

[dapper finch]

I read it as Noot every time, so for me it's the pingu faction

[finite dragon]

👍

[indigo marsh]

Also isn't it called noon in the announcements

Just checked and only patch reveal has noon

And noontide is not available

[finite dragon]

Noon un

[indigo marsh]

Richard Noonan

[worthy lagoon]

Poor @loud gate

[indigo marsh]

From roadside picnic

[worthy lagoon]

He's too scared to open ||spoiler text||

He's traumatized

[dense hatch]

||all of them were basically dead weight tbh||

[indigo marsh]

My trauma is healing after that

[dire dagger]

Hello chatters

[indigo marsh]

Not Sokolov tho. Only if you give him a good gun

[dense hatch]

oh so the worst one

wait doesn't he wear a normal scientist suit

[indigo marsh]

When I went with only him and Zulu, Zulu was one shot while Sokolov could take multiple hits

[gaunt burrow]

SSP-99M. The green one

[indigo marsh]

Also it's pretty common to hear Strider is dead

[dense hatch]

kruglov calls it a scientist suit so it's a scientist suit

[indigo marsh]

And for vano too

[gaunt burrow]

hi Jack

[indigo marsh]

Hello

[dense hatch]

I don't know why they made them so fragile

it makes recruiting them a downside and not an upside if you want to keep them alive

[loud gate]

It's same thing, I just like how Noontide sounds better

[gaunt burrow]

Zulu was unironically most fragile one (for me at least)

[dire dagger]

His gun is kinda cool but

[sly matrix]

real

[dire dagger]

Lmgs are kinda mid

[sly matrix]

in NPC hands, for sure

[dire dagger]

Nah

They have dog recoil pattern

[gaunt burrow]

lmgs in stalker are basically just "use and dump"

[sly matrix]

it does suffer from the inability to go prone

[gaunt burrow]

fun to use but they just aren't meant for long term

[sly matrix]

I like using them

[dire dagger]

Literally any ar is better than lmgs

[rotund widget]

GWK's Taufik recently posted the preview of S2 & there's one particular thing mentioned about PDA: "In previous titles, players could review all dialogue through their PDA (Personal Digital Assistant), even long after the conversation had taken place. The developers chose to remove this feature to differentiate it from previous games and because the sheer amount of text in this sequel would have been a burden".

[gaunt burrow]

noooo

i'd gladly read all of those texts ngl

[celest goblet]

Not surprised. It would have been nice though

[rotund widget]

It rly would've been a freaking Babylon Tower of text tho, they're not wrong 😁

[gaunt burrow]

it should've been optional

letting player decide if he wants to read the texts or not is the best solution imo

[sly matrix]

The reading should've been mandatory, got to train those goldfish attentionspans 'round here

[pseudo rivet]

Welp, there goes one of my suggestions

[dense hatch]

why would they remove it though if they kept it for CS

CS dialog is either incredibly small or 5 giant chunks of text

[rotund widget]

Also, brief mention on the side quests from GamerSantai's interview by Razin Syafiq: "Most of the side missions in the sequel do not have a time limit, but some missions will have an ending that is affected by the completion period, so the player needs to prioritize those missions".

And on mutants behaviour: "Mutants are the most intelligent enemies and will be able to confuse the player. Mutated animals are inherently less intelligent than the more advanced mutated entities, and what you find are enemies operating on a basic level of just attacking. As you progress, you will meet more advanced mutant creatures.These creatures are designed to defend their territory, attack intruders and stop as soon as you leave their biome. If you bait other enemies into their territory, they will fight each other, which adds an interesting dynamic".

[dense hatch]

first one is kinda garbo

timed missions in open world games are just annoying in general

second one sounds nice though

[loud gate]

he literally said they're not timed missions lol

[dense hatch]

"affected by the completion period" read

[loud gate]

Timed mission is mission which can completely fail if not completed in x time

[dense hatch]

having any section set on a timer counts as timed as it still forces the player to focus on it and not just explore on route

there is a timer, therefore it is timed

[loud gate]

what they said is that you may get bonus if you do it faster

[dense hatch]

or that if you don't do it fast enough you get a worse outcome

[loud gate]

btw, can you link this?

[rotund widget]

Depends on how truly "open" the said world is. I've seen people assuming they're gonna be able to reach CNPP straight up from the start, running headlessly from the entry point directly to the North — and if we're being honest, that's not how most games work at all 😄 The amount of chaos that could be caused by that is simply impossible to predict, so I'd say we should rather expect the progression model we've had in the OG trilogy, albeit much more advanced, using the new larger scale of the map to a greater extent with the natural in-game world obstacles such as arch-anomalies, mutant hordes, rivers/lakes, etc-etc & not only story locks & the Brain Scorcher to secure some locations from being reached prematurely. In that case, keeping in mind the fact that we most likely won't have a large-scale factions war, timed missions won't be much of a burden, like they've been in CS, for example, where you've been asked to defend some outpost on Swamps or Cordon while roaming around in the Red Forest, lol

[celest goblet]

From what the developers have said that sort of thing could well be possible. But that doesn't mean it will be easy

[gaunt burrow]

real

[rotund widget]

https://gamersantai.com/interviu-stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-proses-pembangunan-selama-15-tahun/ — needs a heavy translation work, but it's doable 👌🏻

[loud gate]

Thanks bro

[somber beacon]

Whats up with the shoc trailer???

[indigo marsh]

Fanmade

[loud gate]

Official

[somber beacon]

O i thought it was some kind of mistake or hidden message strelok will be in next game

[gaunt burrow]

if Scar will be in the game then Strelok shall be there too

[somber beacon]

I hope

[rotund widget]

SIRCAA wouldn't be a thing without Strelok & all of his knowledge, there's simply no way he wouldn't be involved in the story in one way or another 😁

[gaunt burrow]

this^

[somber beacon]

Also hope that Zulu will be back

Duty good join duty!111!

[loud gate]

Strelok is the main character of these games lol, like it's an open secret he'll be in the game

[pseudo rivet]

Duty bad fr

[somber beacon]

u gotta stop smoking weed bro

[gaunt burrow]

if Duty is good then why did Zulu left?

[pseudo rivet]

That's the thing, I never started

[rotund widget]

Depends on what CoP ending devs have chosen for him. There was an ending where he got reinstated in Duty & given a squad to commandeer, so I'd say it's likely we might see him again 👌🏻

[pseudo rivet]

If Duty is bad, then why did he rejoin (if he's still alive)?

Bro is the new Matt and Crimson

[somber beacon]

Yep I bet all the good endings were chosen as canon

[still ridge]

Not true

[gaunt burrow]

hopefully yes

[pseudo rivet]

Meh

[rotund widget]

Sultan sends his regards 😁

[somber beacon]

Oh right

[pseudo rivet]

Sultan says "hi"

[gaunt burrow]

bandits taking over Skadovsk doesn't necessarily means that Deg sided with bandits though

[somber beacon]

Well ALMOST all

[still ridge]

True

[gaunt burrow]

most likely Deg didn't took anyones side

and bandits and stalkers just duked it out between themselves

[pseudo rivet]

Basically this, because Beard is still there

[rotund widget]

But it is a bad ending for Skadovsk lore wise

[pseudo rivet]

If the Bandits win, Beard moves out of Skadovsk

[gaunt burrow]

most logical ending slide of Skadovsk in CoP would be this one: "Skadovsk became home to any and all who could reach it. Fierce stalkers resistance did not stop the bandits from making regular (and ultimately unsuccessful) attempts to establish their so-called "order" on the ship. Despite the ongoing struggle, the Skadovsk carried on its unique brand of life."

[somber beacon]

By the way any info about multiplayer? Will it have some missions/Coop or just a standard team deathmatch like in cod

[pseudo rivet]

Inb4 Degtyarev sided with Morgan

[gaunt burrow]

chat is this real?

[pseudo rivet]

[pseudo rivet]

No coop

[somber beacon]

pls 🙏

[pseudo rivet]

Probably just your standard TDM and the like

[somber beacon]

Having some kind of coop would be fire ngl

[pseudo rivet]

Yes, I'd love for him to side with a corrupt Duty trader

[rotund widget]

I'd say this tho: devs certainly have their clear motives to put Bandits there, especially considering the latter had their own bit of screen time in "Time of Opportunities". Whatever's gonna happen story-wise — it may have made more sense for Bandits to occupy the Skadovsk, I suppose.

[somber beacon]

Exploring the zone with friends

[gaunt burrow]

even if stalkers took over Skadovsk at 1 point you still gotta consider how much time have passed between CoP and S2

[pseudo rivet]

I'd love to see the Bandits taking more of a policing role, just like CS and CoP

[gaunt burrow]

so its not surprising that bandits came out of top

[gaunt burrow]

dream come true

[pseudo rivet]

Realsies

[worthy lagoon]

Although he did take sides since we have Noon

[rotund widget]

Morgan is dead anyways, btw. You either finish him on spot or he survives & eventually tasks Mercs with killing Degtyarev repeatedly, up until there's no other way but to kill Morgan still at Duty's Yanov stash.

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah

[gaunt burrow]

i meant sides regards to stalkers and bandits

realistically he did took either freedoms or dutys side since Striders ending is canon

[worthy lagoon]

We'll know that when we will play S2

Noah will surely know something

[rotund widget]

Oh, that as well, ofc

[pseudo rivet]

"You'll know it when it happens"

[worthy lagoon]

I believe that even if Deg helped Loners the outcome was kind of the same

Since over a decade has passed

[gaunt burrow]

yeah time gap is huge

[somber beacon]

Nvm i confused him with someone else

[worthy lagoon]

I want to learn more about the image that Deg has left in the Zone

[gaunt burrow]

at least Deg wiping out bloodsucker lair is canon since Skadovsk still exists

[worthy lagoon]

I hope that loners remember him in S2

[worthy lagoon]

And the fact that Strider founded Noon as well

I have a feeling that we will see Deg at the ending

Something like Deg appearing and arresting SIRCAA directors for conspiracy etc

He technically should be a USS observer lurking around

So he's surely above Ward and SIRCAA

And he's most likely in touch with loner's communities or something

And with Strider as well

[rotund widget]

Honestly, given the fact Degtyarev canonically rejected the higher cabinet position in favour of staying a regular USS agent within the Zone + the fact that we're pretty much confirmed to have all the other OG protagonists involved in the new story — I say Degtyarev might as well be taking part in the action 😁

[gaunt burrow]

Deg went back to the Zone but thatwas a decade ago tbh. i can't see him staying there for 10 years but who knows

[worthy lagoon]

I can see him staying there

[loud gate]

Deg is like Military, I had one schizo theory about maybe him being involved, but can't share cause secret Demo Info

[rotund widget]

Scar was counted missing in action for more than a decade — yet here we are 😁

[worthy lagoon]

If Deg was exactly like the military he would've gotten out of the Zone

[dim topaz]

I believe the next returning character to be announced is the Degster himself, right before unveiling the strelok trailer

[worthy lagoon]

I doubt they'd announce Deg

[loud gate]

Don't think either, but he for sure will be in game

[loud gate]

Ugh... Damn you NDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gaunt burrow]

Does Scar even has any choice? I mean Deg is USS so he can just choose to go back but Scar is in the Zone illegally (most likely), him going back to the big land might be problematic since everyone who's in the Zone without governments permission is technically a criminal

[worthy lagoon]

I know that the Military probably withdrew or something

[rotund widget]

It honestly doesn't make sense to have all these character announcements from a marketing standpoint while keeping the gameplay mechanics under NDA, but I've already voiced my opinion on that 😄

[worthy lagoon]

Otherwise it wouldn't make sense for IPSF and Ward to exist

But since he's a USS agent and not directly under the Military control he's more independent

[loud gate]

Military is IPSF

[worthy lagoon]

Especially given his rank

[worthy lagoon]

It's a different branch though

[gaunt burrow]

plus Scar is a merc in the Zone, he needs to be in the Zone to earn

very different scenario with Deg

[worthy lagoon]

I believe that Deg doesn't fully trust SIRCAA and since he knows a lot of information regarding the Zone and X documents he probably has his own view regarding SIRCAA

Especially if SIRCAA (as Spark claims) hurts and torture stalkers

[rotund widget]

I mean that we all thought Scar was most likely dead in general yet he's returning — bringing Deg back is not even remotely close to being problematic all things considered 😁

[worthy lagoon]

And Deg is tied to loners

[loud gate]

I'm gonna be completely honest, I think Degtyarev will be important IPSF member, maybe leader of IPSF

Or.. if IPSF has multiple branches, he'd be like Zone leader of the SSU there.

[worthy lagoon]

I trust Deg more than Scar and Strelok

[worthy lagoon]

Highly doubt

[gaunt burrow]

"we all thought Scar was most likely dead" is exaggeration considering the fact that there were countless debates about his fate

[loud gate]

Rock_4 never doubted about his fate.. because he wrote his fate

[gaunt burrow]

[dense hatch]

there wasn't really a concrete answer given in the games for whatever happened to scar previously

[loud gate]

Good

[loud gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171602505382236231/1282638491251114046/giphy.gif

[gaunt burrow]

my point is that Deg has a choice to return to the big land

[normal ocean]

Yeah I'd say at the very least he'll be mentioned

[gaunt burrow]

Scar most likely doesn't

[normal ocean]

Alternatively he shows up in an exoskeleton and gauss rifle as a reverse escort mission where he protects you /s

[rotund widget]

If we go back in time to prior-2018, most people were thinking Lebedev might've just been telling the truth & the Grand Emission finished Scar's nervous system completely. I know it's hard to remember allat with all the info we've gotten over the past 3 years, but the general sentiment was indeed that 🤷🏻‍♂️

[gaunt burrow]

same Lebedev that was directly contradicting himself

never took his words for granted tbh

[loud gate]

I always believed Lebedev, Kalancha, and basically all leadership just manipulated Scar

[gaunt burrow]

yeah its logical

[loud gate]

of course it is

[gaunt burrow]

i mean even some of the Clear Sky members never knew about leaderships plans according to their dialogues

[normal ocean]

I know there was the Charon theory at least

(That Charon in SHOC was Scar)

[gaunt burrow]

yes. shit theory because literally just 1 thing was connecting Scar and Charon, which was Vintar. but then again not only Scar and Charon had Vintar

[normal ocean]

Since both have a VSS (And I think Charon is the only NPC in SHOC to use one?) and if you want to bring up the mythology, Charon brings souls to the underworld just as Scar brought Clear Sky to the "underworld". (Death or becoming part of the monolith)

[hazy helm]

deggy?if so then nepo baby tbh

[normal ocean]

Obviously nothing concrete though, it was more just a possibility at the time.

[gaunt burrow]

Scar brought Clear Sky to underworld? how's that?

[normal ocean]

Well they aren't in SHOC and are mostly wiped out in Pripyat. (With only really Nimble off the top of my head.)

So at the time, it seems like the events of Clear Sky nearly wiped them out one way or the other.

[gaunt burrow]

yes but Scar wasn't a reason of their deaths. Lebedev was

[normal ocean]

(Partially why the theory that SHOC Monolith is bolstered by Clear Sky members exists since Monolith has a much heavier presense.)

[gaunt burrow]

Scar just did what he was told to

[finite dragon]

About those who equate Scar and Faust and the Savior and Charon.

[normal ocean]

True but Scar was the "leader" of the plot in Clear Sky.

[indigo marsh]

I mean you could say the same for Orest

[normal ocean]

Not the actual faction, but the one who was found and set off to do the main quest which resulted in Clear Sky attacking Pripyat.

[gaunt burrow]

touche

[indigo marsh]

But notice the Monolith has no one that wants to leave it?

[gaunt burrow]

Clear Sky never attacked Pripyat. they went to Limansk, abandoned hospital and then CNPP

[indigo marsh]

They created a new group made for monolitians

[normal ocean]

Isn't CNPP in Pripyat?

[gaunt burrow]

Scar was just a henchmen for Clear Sky (and I say it as Scar's fan).

[normal ocean]

Yeah but finding him is what led (at least as far as we can see) to Lebedev ordering Scar to find Strelok

[finite dragon]

[normal ocean]

Obviously it's not 1-1 with the Myth but Scar is the one "taking the lead" during the main quest.

And 1v1'ing a helicopter because Scar is the STALKER eqivalent of Rambo

[still ridge]

They added a new technique to their brainwashing as a “dead man’s switch”

That’s why Faust is a lil biatch who doesn’t want free will and wants to re-establish the monolith as a major power in the zone

[gaunt burrow]

in real life ChNPP is located near the abandoned city of Pripyat in northern Ukraine, but in games CNPP and Pripyat are different locations/maps

[normal ocean]

Ah okay so just near it

[still ridge]

More specifically, Pripyat is north west of the power plant

In SoC it’s south of it. Obviously for progression reasons

[gaunt burrow]

like in SoC where CNPP comes right after Pripyat

[worthy lagoon]

In SoC we also see ||deez nuts in yo mouth||

As @loud gate also proved

[gaunt burrow]

lmfao

[loud gate]

https://tenor.com/view/kcd-kcd-2-kcd2-hans-hans-capon-gif-9030180507792167102

[indigo marsh]

Hey Matt have seen the slogan in from freedom's base in clear sky it says ||Yhor mom, got you kuro . Sorry if you are Matt or Mozi or someone else||

[gaunt burrow]

[granite mortar]

Youre Grokscused

[indigo marsh]

#📸┃screens_and_videos message

[finite dragon]

What do you think about Faust?

[rare arrow]

He's creepy

[gaunt burrow]

i think photoshop

[indigo marsh]

It's 100 percent real tho

[gaunt burrow]

dunno much about him but he seems like interesting character

[rare arrow]

Sakharov is also extremely creepy

[indigo marsh]

The only shop it went to was Ashot's

[gaunt burrow]

either its my fish memory or I legit don't recall it

i'm ingame now, gotta double check

[finite dragon]

They say it might be at odds with Strider. He's a former monolith, but he's clinging to the monolithic voice.

[indigo marsh]

It says "Anarchy-Mama of Order" according to Google lens

But I think mother is cooler so

This might actually make freedom's propaganda equal to duty's

[gaunt burrow]

wait @indigo marsh i see it now, but it wasn't visible during emission nvm i'm blind

ok thats interesting asf. gonna record that

@indigo marsh also, did you noticed Chekhov having a newspaper called Anarchy on his table?

#📸┃screens_and_videos

[gaunt burrow]

man... what a bummer

[pseudo rivet]

Did you also know you can get shot by the BTR in Freedom's base?

[gaunt burrow]

i heard it somewhere, didn't know how true that was though

[loud gate]

Yeah bro, been so long #📜┃gsc-answers message

Literally 3 days go

[sly matrix]

How does that happen lol

[normal ocean]

...Freedom has an active BTR?

[worthy lagoon]

Baits used to be believable

[sly matrix]

[Provocative sentence that is clearly not bait],||[jk, total bait]||

[pseudo rivet]

I tried it yesterday, it's real

[pseudo rivet]

Enter the Hangar before they open the doors

[pseudo rivet]

Without wheels

[loud gate]

Military and IPSF
what

[finite dragon]

@copper vector ain xebison

[silk sparrow]

from screenshot looks like you can climb duga

[loud gate]

@glossy blade explain

[solid prism]

So DUGA is off limits till very later in the game..i like that

[glossy blade]

hehe

[silk sparrow]

its obvious International Pole Sports Federation

duga provides a lot of poles

[loud gate]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-phantom-the-the-phantom-pain-metallic-gear-poopy-gif-17171818497153652964

[glossy blade]

You will know what happened one day... 20th of November, the day of knowledge

[granite coral]

🔥 🍆

[leaden ice]

The second screenshot is in game or real life? Because honestly i can't tell

[glossy blade]

real life

[silk sparrow]

UE6

[loud gate]

I think first is like real life inspiration

and the second one is the downgraded in-game version. Looks good tho

[solid prism]

The first is in-game footage and the second real life...looks that way at least

[celest goblet]

Reference photo vs in game comparison

[silk sparrow]

from top of the duga i should be able to see plant

[cyan canopy]

We watching you..

[granite coral]

The second one is PS2 graphics for sure

[cyan canopy]

Marked our words

[sly matrix]

remember remember, the 20th of november

[rotund widget]

It's logical only if you paid attention to the storyline, which most people absolutely didn't do. That's why I said "general sentiment for MOST people was...", obviously not for all fans. You don't need to go far looking for confirmation, scroll through the YT comments for example: people are actually unironically shocked that Scar turned out to have a witty character instead of being a gritty half-zombified merc, lol. They've only now discovered the Clear Sky leading trio was directly involved with the C-Con & creation of the Zone. The majority of STALKER players just never bothered with all the text beyond some quest descriptions, that's what gamers just are in general.

[native sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-monke-monkey-cry-gif-11763130847124576621

[granite mortar]

Epic embed fail

[native sparrow]

Feining for news on stalker 2.

Damnit.

[rotund widget]

Novikov as well in the Scientists Bunker near Yanov, yeah

[loud gate]

Yaniv*

[somber comet]

I want nimble in stalker two.

[sly matrix]

yaniv?

[native sparrow]

I want stalkers in stalker 2

[loud gate]

Yaniv

[granite mortar]

Have you seen the yapping Lebedev?

[rotund widget]

I find it interesting how he has bandages all over his forearms, I wonder why's that

[worthy lagoon]

Cry about it, cry cope ssethe

I was right

Cope Mozi

[granite mortar]

Scout TF2

[exotic mural]

The government made the brain scorcher confirmed

[finite dragon]

I'm also curious. Maybe he has an agent tattoo. What I'm most curious about is how he lives...

[indigo marsh]

Nope

But that slogan is hella cool

The wall one

It was the only one I could find in the freedom base

I didn't check the tunnels tho

[finite dragon]

the radar Duga?

[rotund widget]

Yeah, I think we should get access to it once we meet Scar as he's the Spark leader & according to Collector's Map breakdowns Duga might just be the faction's base

[north violet]

Oh hell yeah, we get to eplore the DUGA array!

[indigo marsh]

Yes

[rotund widget]

Remember-remember the 20th of November 😁

[finite dragon]

It's 5 days before my birthday. Makes a great present!

[indigo marsh]

Also wasn't the duga supposed to detect American ballistic missile launches?

[untold silo]

@gaunt burrow when did you become a master?!?

[indigo marsh]

But I guess this is a game so it won't be realistic

[still ridge]

Huh?

[untold silo]

20th of November is 11 days after my birthday
Thank you, oh GSC for the perfect birthday present.

[worthy lagoon]

Mozi said that the IPSF are the same faction as the military

[still ridge]

Lmfao

Why would they not be separate?

[rotund widget]

How he lives?.. That's a good question!

He's blind — that's not an ordinary trouble, lol. But what's even more interesting is the fact that he somehow left his recordings in psi-emitters while they're irradiating psy-energy & Skif finds him at the CS base — which means Faust has spent all this time on Swamps. Under such an intensive psi-radiation, blind, alone too I guess! That's a good question how did he manage it!

[rotund widget]

Theoretically — yes, all kinds of em coming from the West in general.

[rotund widget]

It's literally facing the East now, which is the opposite way from the real-life counterpart 😏

[finite dragon]

I'm really curious, but if I could meet him in the game, I'd like to ask him a lot of questions! Also, I'd like to take lots of screenshots.
If anything, I'll stay at Wild Island forever.

[worthy lagoon]

Ask Mozi

[loud gate]

Explain how Operation Monolith was conducted by IPSF then lmao

While cannonically, in ShoC, it was "Military", and that it.

[worthy lagoon]

Yeah but they can still be a separated agency

Or they made up the IPSF after the trilogy which is the most obvious reason

But they're two completely different branches in my opinion

Like Navy and Air Force

Or even more independent since it has the term "international"

Probably shifted from under the control of UA gov to SIRCAA

Which changes a lot the differences and dependencies between IPSF and Military (UA) and especially USS where Deg is

[loud gate]

No, just doesn't make sense

[worthy lagoon]

It does

[loud gate]

Only way I see is that IPSF is the whole group of bros, and then you have different branches (Like SSU)

[worthy lagoon]

IPSF has a different patch it implies that it's a different branch of the military or a different agency

[worthy lagoon]

SSU are military yes but have different dependencies compared to the regular Army for example

[loud gate]

or maybe, idk, "Military" refers to just the Ukrainian Military, while IPSF is the actual "military" who actually operates within the Zone

[worthy lagoon]

It is plausible that the IPSF was originally under the MOD or something like that, then shifted the dependency to SIRCAA

[worthy lagoon]

Mol1t said that military and IPSF are different

[still ridge]

it does though

Military is just military, IPSF is probably just a branch of the military meant to serve in the zone

[worthy lagoon]

Military just means that they can carry weapons and that are under the military code

[valid summit]

I hope stalker 2 has Easter eggs

[loud gate]

It's Psy vs Psi all over again

[worthy lagoon]

But that doesn't mean that they are all under the same ministry and agency

[valid summit]

A nice Easter egg would be like the cod 4 modern warfare sniper mission intro

[worthy lagoon]

I think it's just the same thing, a synonym

There's no other explanation

Like, in medicine you have 15 synonyms of the same protein

[loud gate]

Yes, so S.T.A.L.K.E.R. military is now called IPSF, instead of being whole military like implied in old games. This is what I said lol

IPSF is the new Military.

[worthy lagoon]

Mol1t destroyed your dreams

[loud gate]

Obivously within the Zone, because I don't think International force would be Ukraine's Military lel

[pseudo rivet]

I need IPSF Stalkers fr

[loud gate]

but you can see IPSF Stalkers

[pseudo rivet]

Where?

[worthy lagoon]

I believe that the IPSF was a UA military branch but was later shifted dependency to SIRCAA, making it an international as well

But Ukraine obviously still has control of the territory since it's inside Ukraine so UA military (especially USS) would probably be present inside the Zone due to secrets and as a fail-safe in case SIRCAA does something bad

[pseudo rivet]

Depending on context

[worthy lagoon]

Obviously i expect that we'd see way way less UA military dudes or almost no one, but there will definitely be USS operatives

[loud gate]

[worthy lagoon]

While Ward and IPSF probably replaced the UA military forces

@glossy blade are we going to have UA Military and IPSF as two different factions?

[pseudo rivet]

Certified #📜┃ask-gsc moment

[worthy lagoon]

I need to know

[pseudo rivet]

Samesies

I want to see Military Stalkers

[worthy lagoon]

Same

[rocky trellis]

Military that isn't just bunch of rich bandits would be great

[indigo marsh]

CoP

[normal ocean]

COP did seem to be leaning towards it

[indigo marsh]

Actually that's SBU observer

[normal ocean]

Considering...recent events I imagine the Ukraine military will at least be a faction with well-meaning soldiers mixed in with the corrupt one

[rocky trellis]

but rest of them were military, no?

[pseudo rivet]

Those are regular Military duderinos

[worthy lagoon]

Except for Deg

[indigo marsh]

No I am talking about

[worthy lagoon]

Who's an USS agent

[pseudo rivet]

Degtyarev is indeed a former Stalker

[worthy lagoon]

He was?

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

[worthy lagoon]

Proof?

[indigo marsh]

He is SBU stalker

[pseudo rivet]

CoP intro

[worthy lagoon]

I don't remember

Ah

Based

[pseudo rivet]

But I was more so talking about the traditional role of Military Stalkers, not Degtyarev's undercover role

[untold silo]

++NERVIFICATION++

[glossy ravine]

he was born in pripyat

[pseudo rivet]

Soldiers who took special training after service in the Zone, or stalkers contracted by the army.

They carry special equipment, are well armed and equipped. Most often they are used to study the causes and consequences of the disaster, and also map the Zone.

They may move alone or in groups of up to five people. They do not let regular stalkers approach, immediately opening fire.

[normal ocean]

It would be cool to see the Military guarding certain areas but not on a "Kill on sight" mindest

[rocky trellis]

Same. CoP already seemed to move towards them not being overly hostile, but obviously still disliked by stalkers due to their earlier hostility

[pseudo rivet]

That would go against their orders and, even then, if they don't follow said orders, it's usually to gain profit like our beloved Kuznetsov

CoP is literally just a small squad of people stranded in the center of the Zone, come on bro

Of course they're not there to start useless drama when things are as miserable as they are

[rocky trellis]

a small group because most of them died

[pseudo rivet]

And that being said, Stalkers WOULD shoot them on sight because of their hatred from the machine gun fire they had to survive to even get into the Zone

[indigo marsh]

Half 🤓

[pseudo rivet]

According to Beard

[normal ocean]

Yeah I still think relations should be tense

STALKERS are technically criminals afterall

[pseudo rivet]

And it's thanks to Stalkers that they're stationed there, so they'd obviously hate them for that as well

[rocky trellis]

Maybe relationship similar to duty and freedom? That they can behave themselves in certain areas, but still have fights here and there

[pseudo rivet]

Nah

What you want is Ward

[indigo marsh]

[pseudo rivet]

Or Duty if they still maintain order

[indigo marsh]

With what territory

[rocky trellis]

Duty's maintained order: If it's hostile, you kill it

[dense hatch]

new territory

[pseudo rivet]

Obviously Rostok, the rest is just mentions of them bringing order which obviously was hard to establish thanks to the Faction War

But for now, we don't know where they're settled

[untold silo]

Based duty as usual

[dense hatch]

it would be funny if they were in army warehouses now

[indigo marsh]

They don't have rostok

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, like they just switched around

[rocky trellis]

I guess another possibility would be the army being associated with scientists more closely

[pseudo rivet]

Look at what I just said below that

[indigo marsh]

Not in HoC

I'd say it was better when they didn't try to bring order

Look at CS and look at SoC

[dense hatch]

they haven't really progressed their goal at all, same with freedom

[still ridge]

Well, they have

[indigo marsh]

Their fear has been shown to be valid

[still ridge]

Destroying the brain scorcher is something

and miracle machine

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, but that was beneficial to both Duty and Freedom

[still ridge]

True

[dense hatch]

they didn't do either

[pseudo rivet]

I think there's one thing we can be sure about, though

Duty no longer helping with border patrols

Seen their reduced numbers

[dense hatch]

duty itself has done pretty much nothing to help with it's goals

[pseudo rivet]

Because Duty SUCKS

[indigo marsh]

destroying bandit groups is helpful to all

[pearl jacinth]

COME SEE THE BUILDING

"wow, its even better in person"

[dense hatch]

their goal is to specifically destroy the zone, that's just a nice side effect

[rotund widget]

You know what... I think I might have a WILD idea here, but it's too wicked to be true 😅

When the Deep Dive only released, tons of people complained that no encounters/combat with stalkers was shown (despite the fact devs clearly explained why in the first few seconds of the gameplay clip), the variety of mutants was lackluster & "why the F is a controller there?! He should live in the undergrounds!!", all that. I started to chat with all those people reminding them about how it was in the OG trilogy, explaining what psi-emitters do exactly & why it's not possible for most creatures to live on Swamps: it's because of the intermittent psi-radiation field created by those beacons.

Now, what was established in the trilogy is in CoP, during one of the quests given by scientists when Degtyarev is asked to help the group of Topol to investigate the unknown psi-activity in a tunnel, Hermann mentions that the only creature that can survive within the intermittent psi-fields is the controller (and I'd assume any other mutant capable of controlling & directing psy-energy, psydog for example), which is why it makes perfect sense for him to be there.

Now HEAR ME OUT, lol, that's where wild thought process kicks in. Our question is "how the F did Faust survive in the intermittent psi-field & slot his recordings into the working psi-emitters, how he managed to roam within it & LIVE there while being completely blind?". What if the answer is that Faust can indeed control & direct psy-energy?! Here's one more for ya: are there any other NPCs in the original trilogy to have their wrists & forearms bandaged? I think certainly not stalkers (not that I can remember any, even Strelok had his tattoo uncovered), but amongst mutants the only ones are controllers & snorks. Do you feel where it may be going, mate? 😁

[dense hatch]

could just have a psy helm tuned to the specific emitters or something

[pseudo rivet]

So, that he was one of the Secret Service's "candidates" for their experiments?

[rotund widget]

Might just be that, I reckon!

[finite dragon]

It's rare to find people talking about Faust this far.

Maybe he wasn't brainwashed, but rather volunteered.

[rotund widget]

I always found it weird that he has those bandages, but it's only when you asked "how he lives?" that I remembered that he's indeed the only living human being Skif meets in that area, the area of intermittent psi-radiation, no less 😁 That could be a heck of a twist for real!

[finite dragon]

I think it's rare for a new character to have no information until now.

[indigo marsh]

You think he was part of the old Monolith?

[rotund widget]

But we don't see any helmets on him in the showcases, do we? He's just there, no particular suits, nothing but his shirt, pants &, ofc, those bandages

[serene osprey]

There’s still no idea when the special edition preorders will go up?

[dense hatch]

psy cup

[finite dragon]

In the audio log of Deep Dive, which is probably the demo version, I think it was said to be the voice of Monolith.

[worn oar]

[rotund widget]

He certainly was, there could be no doubts about that. Crying for Monolith to answer him, saying "was I not your voice?" (which may indicate Faust was sorta preacher of the faction), refering to Strider as "one of OURS"

[indigo marsh]

I am pretty sure was

[indigo marsh]

Yeah that makes sense

[still ridge]

I don’t think so

[finite dragon]

#📸┃screens_and_videos message

[still ridge]

I think strider was formerly a stalker and got brainwashed, where Faust was always a member before the faction got brainwashed

makes the most sense to me

[rotund widget]

I think you're on point, actually. According to the recordings collected from the emitters, Faust doesn't even know much about Strider, lol, all he knows is precisely that Strider "is one of OURS"

[worn oar]

How about not?

[indigo marsh]

#📸┃screens_and_videos message
This is why I think strider was Old mono

[worn oar]

Strider might be that

But Faust might just be the same

[solid dome]

Gib new trailer, Moleet

[indigo marsh]

He said that they were a monolitian squad who went to the center and then they were brainwashed

By he I mean Strider

[finite dragon]

Munching on poor Faust's fingers.

[sonic flax]

I heard we'll get a new cinematic trailer as well as a 30 minute A-Life 2.0 gameplay trailer in exactly 2 weeks.

The Monolith told me in a dream.

[dense hatch]

I heard we will get the full game in like 2 months

[granite mortar]

The Monolith is a liar
A false prophet

Piss Orb told me in a dream

[pseudo rivet]

He is

[finite dragon]

[silk sparrow]

people asking for new trailer in ask-gsc is wild 😄

[sonic flax]

No way! 🤯

[sonic flax]

New artifact?

[normal ocean]

So predictions, will the final level be another terrible long hallway of shooting?

For authentic STALKER experience.

[worn oar]

He's speaking about his orange artifact

[zenith sun]

where can i find keyboard rebinds for shadow of chernobyl, and also should i do a first playthrough before i mod the game or like half of one

[sonic flax]

Shouldn't it be more yellow though?
That dark of colour seems unhealthy.

[granite mortar]

Old one
From 1972

[sonic flax]

Oh, the golden piss orb from roadside picnic. How could I forget..

[granite mortar]

Yes

[sonic flax]

It's what Arthur wants.

[worn oar]

Where have your mind gone to?

[sonic flax]

Maybe a misunderstanding.

Wish Granter has fried my brain.

Oh and the wait for the game has also been frying my brain.

[worn oar]

Chymo's nickname section is on daily violation

[indigo marsh]

Mid name

[worn oar]

Should I join the power abuse?

[indigo marsh]

*mod

It is not aboose

And if it was, which it isn't, you should join it

[sonic flax]

Slug or piss orb. You chose.

[granite mortar]

Just rename me to annoying golden ball already

[indigo marsh]

Yellow circle

[worn oar]

I don't think you're annoying, wdym?

[granite mortar]

Yeah but it makes more sense than annoying orange

[zenith sun]

where do i ask questions about SOC, i posted something further up in this chat

[granite mortar]

Here

[indigo marsh]

You wished to be an annoying orange, and now you are

[worn oar]

[granite mortar]

I said I will poorly greenaceen my face onto flame artifact

After rethinking it
Ill greenscreen it onto goldsphere

[zenith sun]

this

[worn oar]

How do you like your new nick

[granite mortar]

Settings, controls
And yes, unmodded first

[granite mortar]

Much cat
Much wow
Very peak

[zenith sun]

sorry i meant like other peoples reccomended rebinds cause i dont know what to change mine to

[worn oar]

Good

[granite mortar]

You will get used to the base ones, they are weird but practical

[indigo marsh]

Changing low crouch to 'x' and sprint to 'shift' is what I normally do

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-spin-hat-one-brain-cell-gif-2745719316163357325

[finite dragon]

I want to take care of Faust's mental and physical needs.

[granite mortar]

Altho I would change quicksave/quickload to F5/F6 to have it more in-line with the other two games

[sonic flax]

Wonder if Sakharov will tell us to go find the yellow circle in the eastern part of the map.
If there's snow, there's gotta be a yellow circle.

[granite mortar]

[indigo marsh]

It is what I am used to

[zenith sun]

yea lol hard to get use to that double crouch, and i wish sprint was shift instead of x

[indigo marsh]

I don't change the weapon key bind tho

[granite mortar]

Well its practical
I like it

[indigo marsh]

You can change it

[granite mortar]

You will get used to it pretty fast

[zenith sun]

fair enough

[indigo marsh]

I never did

[zenith sun]

lol

[solid dome]

Oh what have you Grokanged here

[granite mortar]

Grokrange is my favourite colour

[solid dome]

Change my nicknamer to Grokezzin

[indigo marsh]

I found the shift more comfortable and was used to it because of other games

[granite mortar]

Rel rel

[solid dome]

We then can play Grokball

[granite mortar]

Gammasphere Grokletion

[solid dome]

Grokathon!

Man it gets funny over here when me and Chymo pop in

Grokomedy!

[granite mortar]

Rel rel
We are the best

[solid dome]

Grokant me a new nicknamer, Grokjaboy @worn oar Have me called.. Grokezzin, pl0x.

[granite mortar]

Or just give us both the [Officially Groksmaxxing] title

[solid dome]

Grokmart idea

[granite mortar]

Grokly clever

[solid dome]

Well Grokought out!

Bruh who did me dirty this ludicrous way

[solid dome]

You demolished my nicknamer!

REVOLT!

All Grokinions, unite! WE MARCH TOWARDS CRIMSONS CRIB!

[pseudo rivet]

Ask for different name
Gets different name
"THE AUDACITY! WHO DARES CHANGE MY NAME?!"