#tech-deals-discussion

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jolly inlet
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You can grab a used 3080 and that'll do the job nicely. They're $400-500 right now.

jolly inlet
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12GB would be better but 10 would do in a pinch

cedar patio
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what about the a770 tho

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it exists

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is it good at vr tho

jolly inlet
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Not really

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They're between the 3060 and 3060 ti in performance

jolly inlet
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In regular gaming

marsh sphinx
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i estimate ill get everything within 7 months

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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yeah

cedar patio
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new cards will be out soon

jolly inlet
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VR doesn't like them at all, some games refuse to start

marsh sphinx
cedar patio
jolly inlet
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Any recommendation will have changed by then, and previous gen will be cheaper

marsh sphinx
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but yea my main question was how to pick a combo without needing help

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ik when it comes to price and case fitting

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but knowing whats good with what

cedar patio
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do alot of research

marsh sphinx
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is there anything specifically

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like specs of a gpu or a cpu

cedar patio
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if you dont you can still pick a combo its just gonna be not good most of the time

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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"L2 CACHE" "TDP" "MICROARCHITECTURE" etc

cedar patio
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most of that stuff doesnt matter

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performance does

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price does

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and thats it

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tbh

jolly inlet
marsh sphinx
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to push the vr?

jolly inlet
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Yes

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Since your headset effectively is 4k

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It takes a lot of power to push that many pixels into the pipe

marsh sphinx
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is there any other headset youd recommend

cedar patio
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what headset are you planning to get

marsh sphinx
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i have a quest 2

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i just dont wanna have to spend so much for a gpu

cedar patio
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quest 2 is decent

marsh sphinx
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since im gonna have to push it

cedar patio
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i got it

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what i dont like about it is that the usbc connection on it is slow which sucks

marsh sphinx
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i dont like cords

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but if i have to then i will

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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for me at least

cedar patio
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its sketchy but it works most of the time

cedar patio
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bad wifi = bad experience

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which is what i get with it

marsh sphinx
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im planning on AT&T

cedar patio
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router*

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it depends on the router

marsh sphinx
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well i cant just change our router

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its like drilled into the wall or something

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its one of those plans

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quantum fiber lowkey sucks

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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well idk, my parents got it

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and idk much about that stuff so i wouldnt be able to tell

cedar patio
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if its wifi 6 or better then its good enough to max out the quest 2

cedar patio
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well i would just see how it feels on the quest 2 when you get your new pc

marsh sphinx
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i mean ive used it on my current one before

cedar patio
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if you dont like it then umm too bad? ig

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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its just that yk, google fiber is extremely good and now we cant use it lol

marsh sphinx
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1050 with a core i3 9100f

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16 gb ram and 1 tb ssd

cedar patio
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nice

marsh sphinx
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and now it doesnt work tho, faulty hard drive so windows doesnt work properly and we have crappy wifi

jolly inlet
cedar patio
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i got the 1080ti with 12100f

marsh sphinx
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i just wanted to know how to figure out a good gpu/cpu combo lol

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which i just know now as do a lot of research

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and now hes helping me with wifi

jolly inlet
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Yeah I just wanted to quell the concern that a 4070 wouldn't fit the budget

marsh sphinx
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im going with a mini ITX build since ill be traveling a lot

jolly inlet
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ah

marsh sphinx
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here ill send what i have so far

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i haev the AIO Seperate since it technically fits, but pcpartpicker says no

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the gpu and cpu are bound to change definetly

cedar patio
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only thing you got right is the mobo

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so more like 2/10

marsh sphinx
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i found it off someone elses pcpartpicker post

cedar patio
jolly inlet
marsh sphinx
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mini itx

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im gonna be traveling via an airplane for a straight year or two

cedar patio
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lemme make one

marsh sphinx
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budget is 1200-1300

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actually, it can go ITX if it has to

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i also kinda wanna make it look a bit tidy

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which is hard lol

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kinda like a black with white RGB or a white with some random RGB

cedar patio
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jk i wont

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i dont know my way around itx cases

jolly inlet
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If you're traveling then I don't recommend glass side panels, so RGB would be pointless

cedar patio
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oh wait glass

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no glass ok

jolly inlet
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Even if you carry it on someone else could shove their suitcase next to yours and break it

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Maybe look at the fractal ridge

marsh sphinx
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i can just have it shipped

jolly inlet
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That's even worse

marsh sphinx
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even with good packaging?

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UPS?

jolly inlet
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I worked at USPS and we would literally chuck your box across the room

cedar patio
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ok well i cant find any case

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ill just add the rest of the parts

marsh sphinx
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maybe ill just have glass for now, hell i have until next august

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then i can just leave the glass one here and buy some replacement

marsh sphinx
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my gosh thats a thin case

jolly inlet
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16L

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GPU goes on a riser, that's how it gets so small

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Plenty of speed holes

marsh sphinx
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maybe something wider

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it does look a bit ugly

cedar patio
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doesnt that case

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kinda suck

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or was it that big tower one

jolly inlet
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Canucks is a reliable reviewer

marsh sphinx
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i still kinda wanted to have some aesthetic to my build

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despite me going around

jolly inlet
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And yes that case fits a 4090

marsh sphinx
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the case looks like a wifi router lol

jolly inlet
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It's about the size of a PS4

marsh sphinx
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yeaaa

jolly inlet
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Just a bit thicker

marsh sphinx
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here one second

cedar patio
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hard to get aesthetic when you cant even look in

jolly inlet
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You'd need a little more budget to get better aesthetics too. Not much.

marsh sphinx
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well i mean im gonna buy a seperate cover

cedar patio
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what if the seperate cover gets damaged

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when the slam

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suitcase

marsh sphinx
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here, screw the idea of traveling for now

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just a small case

jolly inlet
marsh sphinx
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miniITX

jolly inlet
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20L

marsh sphinx
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i like that case

jolly inlet
marsh sphinx
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eugh that will suck saving up for

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but i guess if itll run vr smoothly ig

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are you absolutely sure i cant go just a little bit lower on either GPU or CPU so I have room to add some fans for better airflow?

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or, fan

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yeah scratch that theres no room for another fan

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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ill have to see if i can make this a bit cheaper

cedar patio
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i meant big

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idk about price

jolly inlet
marsh sphinx
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im not buying it, but interesting af

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ill have to convince my brother to do this when i help him buy a pc

cedar patio
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dont

jolly inlet
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They're super expensive since it's the latest thing, but hopefully more budget things come eventually

cedar patio
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it 1000% costs a fortune

marsh sphinx
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no yea im fully aware

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it looks cool, but serves no use to me

jolly inlet
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Physically speaking it doesn't cost much more to build or even design the cable-less stuff so it should eventually balance out to a little above the normal price once the novelty wears off

marsh sphinx
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i think it would just be a good setup if you wanna get something aesthetic rather than performance wise

marsh sphinx
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its still a little overboard for my budget, im a high school student

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i can't make much

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plus i need to get a new windows key

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which is +$115

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thats like 200-300 above my budget

azure pond
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That's it being used for again?

marsh sphinx
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VR

azure pond
marsh sphinx
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ive always thought they were that expensive

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but anyway, i still wanna stay strict to that budget

azure pond
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One sec

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Lemme get links

marsh sphinx
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this will run VR on a quest 2?

azure pond
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Yes, either one. I didn't see what your time frame for a build was tho

marsh sphinx
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eh just depends on how long itll take to save up

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i estimate about 7 months since ill be putting in 100 every week

azure pond
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If its a couple months out or more prices will be fairly different

marsh sphinx
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more or less

azure pond
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Yeah should be new parts out bt then

marsh sphinx
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i got told i needed a much more powerful gpu/cpu combo for good quality on a quest 2

azure pond
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Not really

marsh sphinx
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i think it was either Fal'Cie or someone from another server

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but i dont trust the other server as much since they tried to get me to get like 15 dollar surprise computers off facebook marketplace lmao

cedar patio
marsh sphinx
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lemme double check

cedar patio
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they also recommended the 4070

marsh sphinx
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idk what im saying, i meant the cpu

cedar patio
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the 7800x3d isnt needed yea

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but its nice

marsh sphinx
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i mean

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i dont need that much

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it seems a bit overkill

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300 dollars

cedar patio
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the 7600 is def enough

marsh sphinx
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no yea the 7600 is a good cpu

cedar patio
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yea

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its noice

marsh sphinx
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its the exact same gpu just not the one from ebay

cedar patio
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thats not aesthetic

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thats a waste of money

marsh sphinx
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wdym

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the aio?

cedar patio
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yes

marsh sphinx
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ive been wanting to get an AIO that showed the temp

cedar patio
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the 7600 is the lightest weight most efficient cpu ever

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and that aio sucks

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so does the price on it too

marsh sphinx
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do you have a better recommendation?

cedar patio
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you can get a 50$ aio that gives better temps

cedar patio
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the peerless assasin, phantom spirit, the stock cooler, or

marsh sphinx
cedar patio
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sort by lowest in aio

marsh sphinx
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nice little aesthetic

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and looks nice to me

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i really like it personally

azure pond
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You're worried about budget but you're willing to buy a $260 aio.

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This isn't my conversation, peace

cedar patio
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imma leave too

marsh sphinx
balmy lake
# marsh sphinx <:peepoSadSip:641081095479361536>

I’ll drop a morsel for you. If you must have a screen, Ditch the AIO and get something like these 8.8” screens. There’s different sizes available but looking at the case you have picked out, looks like a 7” or 8.8” might be best. And mount vertically to that flat area toward the front. These can connect directly to the usb header on the MB and dont count as another display for your GPU. And you can customize them to show whatever you want well over and above CPU temp.

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I use a 5” beada panel outside of my case that plugs into an exterior USB panel and use HWInfo64 to read the sensors and InfoPanel to set up the screen. Of course, theres other software and configurations. And not all screens are compatible with all software. So pay attention to what you’re getting. In most cases, though it works, the bad chinese stock programs aren’t very user friendly.

marsh sphinx
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i wouldnt know what to put on it lol

balmy lake
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Some of the software has premade templates. Or you can find a Reddit or discord community for whatever software you use that share templates.

Obviously CPU temp, GPU temp, fan speeds, utilization percentages, stores speed/temps, etc you can figure that all out once you figure out your software situation.

thin bolt
cedar patio
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no

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thats garbage

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negative airflow + you can basically build your own pc for 600$ with those specs

stoic crest
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that's good for the price

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that thing is at least all atx parts

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the case being closed front like that doesn't matter too much for the hardware

thin bolt
cedar patio
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even worse

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2070 super is 3060 with less vram basically

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10700 way too old

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for anything

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the mag codex would be better

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or the 7700 3060 legion for 630

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bc that actually has a really good cpu

azure pond
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?

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2070=3060 12gb, super around 10-15% better iirc? The cpu is a fine pairing. The 7700 one is still much better value

cedar patio
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ok ig the 2070s is slightly better

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i think its less than 10% tho

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idk tho

thin bolt
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I’m just finding stuff on eBay or Newegg and just flinging it here

cedar patio
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someday youll find something

azure pond
cedar patio
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all the game tests ive found shows its less than 10%

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imma go check another benchmark

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time spy its 12%

azure pond
cedar patio
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@azure pond

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what is woot

tawdry dragon
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It's Amazon's side company

azure pond
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Returned/open box afaik

cinder kiln
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@trim pier not worth in 2024

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In 2021 sure

trim pier
cinder kiln
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It's their best, but their best is like

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MX-6 but it evaporates faster

trim pier
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ah

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deal is evaporated

cinder kiln
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And for $6 you can get 4g of MX-6 so

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All g

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They used to be good

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Competition got better and derbauer is slackin'

cursive sage
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I swear I keep seeing #tech-deals highlighted white, but when I go to check there's nothing new posted

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must be developing schizophrenia

jolly inlet
cursive sage
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fair enough

pallid geyser
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Ah I actually wondered that too

thin bolt
jolly inlet
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Not a bad deal at all

cursive sage
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I wonder if it's worth it to get this power supply considering it's twice the wattage of something else I found

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would a psu like this run constantly at 1200W or at whatever the parts pull, i'm confused (and a bit rusty)

thin bolt
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But it’s usually seen as a waste

cursive sage
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so considering this is about the same price as a 650W psu I found, should I just pick this out instead

jolly inlet
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You might as well pick it up, it might use slightly more power at idle but you can keep it for a long time, even with a 9950X and 5090

cursive sage
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long time is what, several years?

jolly inlet
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It's hard to predict the future of PCs. There could be some new standard that comes out in 3 years like ATX 4.0 or something that uses a totally new connector, making all units obsolete

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Barring something unforeseen like that, up to 10 years is a good life for a high quality unit

cursive sage
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nice

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looking at the product listing, i didn't see the shipping cost

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it's $14 lmao

jolly inlet
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Still a good deal imo

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Up to you in the end

cursive sage
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fair enough

jolly inlet
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Considering that's a $160 unit normally iirc, that's a good bit off retail

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Yeah $166 rn

soft ingot
jolly inlet
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WTF is BB smoking

stoic crest
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that's not a great price

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bb is wack with marketing

soft ingot
stoic crest
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ebay has a 12400f+3060 msi prebuilt for less than 600

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or something

soft ingot
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How much of a downgrade in parts is that? Also is eBay alright for buying computer stuff?

stoic crest
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it's only a downgrade in cpu

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ebay is good for pc stuff too

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just gotta be careful with sellers

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refurb but this is worth it imo

jolly inlet
thin bolt
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eBay is great for buying stuff

jolly inlet
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It's a $200 build fee basically, which is on the high end

soft ingot
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See normally I build my own stuff but this isn’t for me so I’m basically being strong armed into prebuilt. You’re right that is a bit of a high fee though

soft ingot
jolly inlet
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As long as you're careful about the sellers ebay is perfectly fine. I sell on there myself. If you have concerns we'd be happy to check out specific items/sellers for red flags.

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Amazon is a sinking ship at this point, many reputable brands have jumped overboard so it's chock full of no name garbage and Chinese sellers that disappear as soon as they make a sale

stoic crest
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ya

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newegg is ironically better than amazon somehow

soft ingot
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Is Newegg still reliable?

jolly inlet
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Sold by Newegg is good, marketplace same rules appy as ebay

soft ingot
stoic crest
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it's honestly not too far apart

jolly inlet
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12400 is about equal to the 5600 yes

stoic crest
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5600x has a gain because of higher tdp by default

jolly inlet
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The 13400 is a 12600K but without overclocking.
The 14400 is a 13400 with a few scratches buffed out.

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(+100MHz is a joke)

soft ingot
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Ah, so K is similar to X on the AMD cards. And yeah that’s not a noticeable difference for most people

jolly inlet
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Sort of, the K denotes that you can overclock the CPU on a supported Z series motherboard

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The X on AMD generally just means higher default power limit

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Since all* AMD CPUs can be overclocked

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(notable exceptions exist like the 7800X3D)

cinder kiln
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*X is just basically a slightly better bin

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Where did my X go in that sentence gboard

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Jfc

jolly inlet
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It thought you meant twitter and tried to autocorrect but failed

jolly inlet
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No

cinder kiln
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I can't even access it

soft ingot
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Better or worse than the first one I listed?

jolly inlet
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Worse

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The 7600 is even cheaper than the 4060

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So it's more like a $275 build fee on that one

cinder kiln
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You can make something a good...30%? Faster for the same price via diy

soft ingot
thin bolt
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@soft ingot bestbuy often sucks

soft ingot
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They’re the only local option unfortunately

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Closest micro center is like 4 hours away

cinder kiln
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My usual opinion for prebuilts is you may as well get a laptop at the low end

jolly inlet
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Closer than mine... I'd do a 4 hour drive for that. Would cost me $60 in gas round trip to save hundreds on parts and get better parts.

cinder kiln
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If you wanted to strictly go best buy some of their laptop deals are good

soft ingot
cinder kiln
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Not saying you're complaining lad, just giving my outlook of the prebuilt market

soft ingot
cinder kiln
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Good choices are rare in the prebuilt sector

thin bolt
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@soft ingot eBay refurbished is gonna be your best bet

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Or Newegg refurb

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What’s your budget

soft ingot
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No worries there

cinder kiln
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Sad

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Well you came to a good place to ask anyway

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Bacca is the boi who knows all the prebuilt sales rn

soft ingot
jolly inlet
cinder kiln
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If you become a member they also do no questions asked returns

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Best buy is a good place

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(Wait, this is newegg server, right?)

jolly inlet
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Besides no admin would be on right now, even if they did read the chats

cinder kiln
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I miss being paid

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Lol

soft ingot
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I will say Best Buy is pretty good for laptops, especially since the other option is like Sam’s club or Costco which tends to have their laptops fail pretty early even if the parts are decent

cinder kiln
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Ye bestbuy are relatively good or ebay for refurbished

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But a good pre-built sale just isn't very common

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If the person wants something that's good quality but not necessarily good value, starforge has been consistently a good choice for a while now

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They put proper care into the pre-built, survived a GN torture test twice with flying colours

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Which no other company has done in my memory

thin bolt
jolly inlet
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Wasn't their build fee like $75 and good cable management in both secret shopper vids?

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One of the few SI companies I'd recommend tbh

thin bolt
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Cheapest decent I can find on Newegg

Unfortunate that it’s a 4060

jolly inlet
thin bolt
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Good ram though

soft ingot
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I was just gonna say that’s still a huge improvement

thin bolt
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Ddr5 4800
For a sub $800 build

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Not the best obviously

But for a refurbished build

soft ingot
jolly inlet
thin bolt
jolly inlet
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I'd take the better CPU in this case for R6S

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Those ones have better GPUs, more balanced I think

cinder kiln
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Agree

soft ingot
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So I know the 4060 is kind of a meme but is a 3070 better/better value?

azure pond
thin bolt
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Would just caseswap that

jolly inlet
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4060 should have been called 4050

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4060 ti should have been the 4060

azure pond
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3070>=4060 ti

jolly inlet
soft ingot
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Duly noted for my own purposes lol. That looks like a really solid option! I have to head to sleep, thank you for all of your help, I might be back tomorrow

jolly inlet
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g'night

thin bolt
cursive sage
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This one I found looks cool, but the bid ends in a few minutes

huh, didn't see it was mined on nvm

jolly inlet
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Mining is fine, it doesn't impact the life span at all

cursive sage
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and a 3060 ti at this price is good?

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hmm

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i guess i'll pass this one up

jolly inlet
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cursive sage
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thanks for the advice. very rusty to this sort of thing

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never bought used before either

fair moon
cursive sage
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if you look closely there's a button that takes you to the OG listing

fair moon
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oh

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195 shipped is good

cursive sage
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i decided not to get it because i haven't picked out any parts of my pc yet, nor do i know what my budget should be

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should probably set everything up first

azure pond
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Very overpriced

fair moon
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read ^^

jolly inlet
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It sold at 185 + shipping

azure pond
fair moon
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(It got me too)

azure pond
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Ah

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Lmao

cursive sage
azure pond
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probably

cursive sage
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it looks nice

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you must be some sort of wizard to find all these deals

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im serious

azure pond
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i just have way too much free time on my hands and computers have been my special interest for the last three and a half years

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ty

cursive sage
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well

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you're good at what you do and it's actually helping

azure pond
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thank you

jolly inlet
pallid geyser
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We all simp for bacca

cursive sage
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For the 4070 prebuilt posted, is there a possibility of there being anything proprietary

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don’t wanna make the same mistake again lmao

azure pond
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I'd double check though, I've not looked into it past surface level

cursive sage
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Honestly don’t know what mobo it even is

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proprietary?

azure pond
stoic crest
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it's atx but

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not an off the shelf board

azure pond
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I don't know workstation well enough

fair moon
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I don't think so. Looks like rtx 4000 is a very cut down 2080 with 8gb vram

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The a4000 is the cool one

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Ampere, 16gb vram, single slot, 6pin, can game close to a 3060ti/6700xt

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Idk how it is for workstations but Nvidia claims it's the best single slot gpu for professionals

thin bolt
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Replacing the cpu, how’s it look?

azure pond
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I wouldnt

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I'd rather get a build that only needs a gpu replacement rather than cpu mobo ram and psu

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Fairly sure it's a thermaltake smart white

thin bolt
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Still keep this then?

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@azure pond

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Forgot to reply to message

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Trying to find a $500-600 pc that’s good enough to be a birthday present if someone elected to get it for me instead of me buying

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But not one that someone else is gonna get in the month that it is until my birthday

azure pond
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There's that 7600 3050 one on ebay for like $460?

thin bolt
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that ain’t a 3050, I ain’t stoopin that low

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Sorry, I just do not want anything 3050

azure pond
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Why?

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It gets you on am5, and an ok gpu until you can upgrade

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Someone who was considering a 6th gen i3 with a 980 shouldn't be against a 3050 lol

jolly inlet
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The 3050 is better than the 980 anyway

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Mostly because the 900 series is out of driver support

thin bolt
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Doesn’t it get beat by a 1660s

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?

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Oh wait

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I didn’t see the cpu mentioned

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Maybe I’ll snag that

thin bolt
azure pond
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its posted somewhere in tech deals

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or i can find it later

thin bolt
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Ah, it’s $519 now

azure pond
thin bolt
thin bolt
jolly inlet
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Hmm. Might be worth picking up for a server.

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Never mind, single thread speed is the same as the e5-1650

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Super ultra budget box only

marsh sphinx
cursive sage
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why the hell is the 3060 costing $450

marsh sphinx
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prob the RGB and having 3 fans

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ill change it

thin bolt
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My take
I don’t like Nzxt products

cursive sage
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you still included an nzxt case

thin bolt
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I assumed they wanted one
I’ll always default to the 903 max

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There

marsh sphinx
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i dont actually want this

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im still crappy at making stuff so im just making stuff to get better

marsh sphinx
thin bolt
marsh sphinx
#

Oh i see oops

#

what was the difference between them all?

thin bolt
#

PSU is a bit safer(I believe, I could be using the wrong model)
Case is just better outright
Gpu is better than the 3060 as well by a good margin at the same price point
AIO is just cheaper

#

You don’t really need an AIO for am5 CPUs
They run cool naturally

marsh sphinx
#

interesting

thin bolt
#

Pretty sure the 7800x3d can be cooled pretty well by the stock ryzen cooler

#

As well as most other am5 CPUs

cursive sage
#

when you were picking the parts, did you have a budget?

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or were you just picking for practice

thin bolt
cursive sage
#

fair enough

thin bolt
#

@marsh sphinx are you just getting into pc building?

#

Or have you been in it for some time now

marsh sphinx
#

i’ve been into building pc’s for a while but i’ve never known how to do it myself

#

@thin bolt

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i know how to build a pc and i can determine when some stuff is overpriced but only if it’s obvious

thin bolt
#

Good advice Felix taught me is to take it one part at a time
Focus on studying a particular part of the pc

Like I’ve gotten good with gpus, storage, and ram, but I still gotta get my head around psus, mobos, and CPUs

#

Like, go take some time to learn about ram, the die timings, and the CL stuff

thin bolt
cursive sage
#

I've looked at that one a lot too

marsh sphinx
#

“how do i know what gpu’s are good and which ones aren’t?”

“hush my child and take a part list”

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:ssadge:

thin bolt
marsh sphinx
#

well i mean like how good it is compared to price, and what i’m pairing it with

thin bolt
#

Common stuff:

  1. AMD gpus are often better value
  2. Nvidia gpus often have better RT
  3. 7900 gre best gpu
brittle lagoon
#

Look at reviews, once you know relative performance and price, you can interpret price to performance yourself

marsh sphinx
#

alright

thin bolt
#

@marsh sphinx take a loot at charts as well
Like pay attention to the GPU comparison charts pinned in #graphics-cards
Or the PSU tier list in #cases-psu-and-cooling

Cases are usually case by case, but the most common are usually the Montech air 903 max, or the Corsair 4000d airflow.

marsh sphinx
#

what about picking PSU’s or cases? i’ve been a really big aesthetic guy too but i don’t wanna pick a dookie case

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and PSU’s i just know give power i have no idea what the difference is between them

brittle lagoon
#

Prices can change on a daily basis, a random sale can make an overpriced part good

#

PSU tier list should be pinned in build, cases depend on reviews

thin bolt
#

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▶ Play video
#

This is a great video to sit down and take some knowledge from.

marsh sphinx
#

just tried to watch a video on what single/double rail is and i cant help but think linus is rivers cuomo from weezer

marsh sphinx
#

ill have to watch this

thin bolt
#

It may seem daunting, but the Destiny 2 timeline videos are 10+ hours long
So if I can watch one of those, you can handle a 2 hour video

#

Take some notes

#

Don’t shy away from learning like it’s a school class

marsh sphinx
#

listen if its school ill take notes

#

but if its a youtube video is kinda already soldered into my brain

#

yt videos are just superior

#

which is why i only use yt for studying lol

thin bolt
#

AS YOUR INTERIM TEACHER
TAKE NOTES ON THE VIDEO

marsh sphinx
marsh sphinx
thin bolt
marsh sphinx
#

also what else would you change

cursive sage
#

If you're getting 64GB ram you should try getting it in sticks of 2x32GB instead of having 4 16GB sticks

thin bolt
marsh sphinx
#

oh yea i shouldve put the money into that instead

#

eh was worth a try

thin bolt
#

It’s all good
You did pretty well with that list

cinder kiln
#

You can also do such without but you're kind of, in a way putting the cart before the horse

#

You'd need to be justifiably working at a sample size or bit rate that requires it

thin bolt
#

^

cinder kiln
#

And the rate of which you work with said size

#

So like once a week isn't really justified

#

4+ hours a day though, justified

marsh sphinx
#

i see

azure pond
#

This seems very cheap

#

Am I crazy?

cinder kiln
#

Pretty solid ngl

thin bolt
#

Or is it the 8GB variant?

#

Too vague to tell

cinder kiln
#

That's gonna be a workstation laptop

thin bolt
tiny heron
#

cant let the homies know i F with this shawtysmilin

keen marsh
azure pond
#

Real

soft sleet
#

nice deal on memory...white kit is $79, too

daring depot
#

are refurbished desktops really worthwhile?

#

rather than simply building one on my own? (possibly with refurbished parts)

azure pond
#

Those two are very great value

daring depot
azure pond
#

Say you're doing a custom build around $700

daring depot
#

it just feels more dangerous since I have less understanding of what might break down

azure pond
#

You're stuck with at beat 7500f, $130 mobo, $80 ram, $60 ssd, $50-60 psu, $60 case, and rest of budget for gpu

azure pond
#

And as far as pre builts go, there's far worse than lenovo legion builds

daring depot
#

i mean in that case

#

the 4080 alone is above half the price of the desktop entirely

#

first one not second one

azure pond
#

Yeah

#

You would want to replace the ram and add more storage tbf

#

But with a warranty, imo there's no reason to avoid an open box/refurb product

#

Looks like the 4080 one went oos sadly

daring depot
#

eh

#

theyll come back

#

maybe not lenovo tho

azure pond
#

That's lenovos ebay page, so they come and go pretty often

#

It's fairly rare for 4070 and higher builds to come into stock but id say it's a few times a month

#

They've had a 4070 build in the 700s before and 4070 ti around 1100 iirc?

#

Both on am5

cursive sage
#

Just saying

#

normal retail price for 4070 brand new is I think $500

azure pond
#

There's been some 3080 ones in the 800s

cursive sage
#

that 3060 ti one looks really tempting

#

But I think I could pull it off myself DIY with this other microcenter bundle I saw the other day + get a used 3060ti

#

maybe I should try, for fun

azure pond
#
azure pond
#

There's 12600kf, mobo and ram from newegg for $260, which is better value than any mc bundle

#

Comes with 32gb ram vs the 16gb in the mc bundle

#

So $260, gpu is $200, leaves you roughly $200 to get the rest of the parts

cursive sage
#

But after being with my prebuilt pc for some time with no ability to upgrade cpu

#

Don’t want to risk it to be honest

cursive sage
#

closest one is four hours away but still

thin bolt
tawdry dragon
muted fulcrum
#
jolly inlet
#

I see the $100 coupon making it $550 but not the 12%

tawdry dragon
#

I see the extra 10% off, not 12%

fleet marlin
#

I'm same as Fal, where's the 10% off 550? As good as oLed is & prices getting decent, I'm still content w/ the hp X27Q & the Asus that's even better.

tawdry dragon
#

this is actually a monitor that I really want to buy, but have no reason to spend $500 on a monitor

fleet marlin
#

Promo code is by location or something. I tried to type it on and nothin.

muted fulcrum
#

Gotcha. Figured I'd toss it in here. Coupon was for $100 off then the brand promotion stacked on top.... I thought for an oled monitor at 240hz that's about as good as its gonna get til black friday

azure pond
#

We've seen the ktc oled down to an all time low of $380 once I think?

#

But that's far from the norm

muted fulcrum
azure pond
#

Can't win em all, but $480 is still a very nice price for an oled

crystal lichen
lilac prawn
#

That's not a deal

#

That's just a pre-order

azure pond
#

@cursive sage

#

7900 4070 ti build

#

I think you wanted me to ping you?

cursive sage
#

Yeah you’re right

cursive sage
#

Damn, I missed it

azure pond
#

Oof

#

That 3080 one is still pretty nice

#

Not on am5, but value wise it's good

azure pond
cursive sage
#

now this one is really tempting but my wallet is internally screaming in agony

#

aaand it’s out of stock again

#

wow these sell out fast

azure pond
#

Rip

#

Good for your wallet at least lmfao

cursive sage
#

yeah

#

I don’t have a lot in there to begin with

thin bolt
#

@azure pond start checking Jawa.gg for used/unopened parts

cursive sage
#

The 3060ti build sounds a lot better for my wallet even tho it uses a slightly weaker cpu

#

could theoretically take the graphics card and buy a 3070

thin bolt
#

3060ti sells better than a 3060

azure pond
#

Too much effort

thin bolt
cursive sage
#

I feel like I’ll never see a 4070 prebuilt drop to $800 like it did that one time

azure pond
#

And the 7700 runs cooler

#

That 3060 ti build is def solid value

azure pond
#

You'd want to upgrade the ram, since it's either single channel or 2x8gb of ddr5

#

And 8gb ddr5 sticks suck

cursive sage
#

I’ll do a stick of 32

#

either that or 2x16 which I don’t want to do

azure pond
#

2x16

#

For sure

#

I don't know if these builds support xmp or not

thin bolt
thin bolt
#

610w????

azure pond
#

You can always do ram later tho

thin bolt
#

Is this a deal

cursive sage
#

Honestly anything is better than this 1060 6Gb I have

#

I guess I got greedy by looking at 4070 builds because “muh future proofing”

azure pond
#

I'm on a 3060 ti and feel the itch to upgrade

thin bolt
azure pond
#

It definitely handles what I need it to, I just need to get some help repasting it

azure pond
thin bolt
azure pond
#

Lmao

cursive sage
cinder kiln
#

!remindme 45years

cursive sage
#

this is going to be the build within ten years

thin bolt
cursive sage
#

@azure pond I did it

#

Ordered the 3060ti build

#

It’s a shame that for the 8% off coupon that was applied, eBay gave me back 8% in tax

thin bolt
cursive sage
#

If I built it myself it’d probably be around $1000

thin bolt
#

You gonna resell your old build?

azure pond
#

Enjoy!

cursive sage
#

Not much anyway

#

It’s an Alienware prebuilt and I didn’t like it

#

it was good but no upgradability

#

they capped my cpu at only 8th gen when it can definitely support 9th

#

Hopefully this Lenovo is a lot better, and hopefully cheaper than DIY with used parts

thin bolt
thin bolt
#
jolly inlet
#

Not bad, but don't expect to upgrade that at all

thin bolt
#

100%

azure pond
#

Idt I'd pay $550 for that

tiny heron
#

You could rehome it in a new case though right?

#

I feel like it's a good deal for someone who doesn't know how or doesn't want to build themselves

jolly inlet
#

HP doesn't ever use a standard ATX motherboard

#

Let alone power supply

#

You can tell just by looking at the pic of the back

#

WTF is that form factor

azure pond
#

There's better value pre builts out there, and those lenovo builds aren't as bad quality

jolly inlet
# azure pond Idt I'd pay $550 for that

Me neither, but that's mostly from the lack of being able to do PC things like swap parts. It takes away a lot of the value for me, as it should for many people.

tiny heron
#

Other than a laptop I haven't even looked at prebuilts in a good while

light holly
jolly inlet
#

lol, there's no name for that form factor. Even HP doesn't have one since they use a different one for almost every model.

azure pond
#

@cinder kiln

#

Hmmm

#

That's actually a pretty solid cpu for a xeon

#

It's basically a 5600

jolly inlet
#

A2000 games like a 1660 tho

azure pond
#

Could sell it and replace with something like a 6700xt

jolly inlet
#

Quadros hold value pretty well, they just don't game well.

#

Looks like they go for $350-500

thin bolt
#

There’s a large market of sub $200 builds on Walmart and Amazon with quadros

#

Old quadros*

azure pond
jolly inlet
#

Yeah flip the GPU and get a gaming model that far surpasses it

azure pond
#

Get a 6700xt, keep $150, that's a $500 build overall

jolly inlet
azure pond
#

Oh lol I read that as $350-400 initially anyways

jolly inlet
#

6750 XTs are selling at 150-200 so that's a nice difference

azure pond
#

Oh damn

#

That's great value

molten halo
#

Pc part picker has the 7900x3d cheaper then the 7800x3d KEKNervous

shut lava
#

Because the 7900X3D is worse in games.

azure pond
#

nah

#

stock issues

cinder kiln
#

No

#

Price inflation

azure pond
#

yeah mb

#

artificial stock issues*

cinder kiln
#

AMD is making the golden child expensive cos they know it wins

#

Yes

#

CPU version of a 4090

jolly inlet
deft dew
#

hi does anyone know a good mouse i can buy? or maybe a good brand i could buy one from.. max like 60-70$?

cinder kiln
#

Op18k

#

Viper v2 pro

#

DA V3

#

What was that other one

#

M3...?

jolly inlet
#

M4 A1?

cinder kiln
#

Keychron m4 a1 yeah

#

Lemokey m3?

#

There's a few others

#

Use this to compare the shapes

#

You can see if you like it vs what you have

#

Rtings also has reviews for a lot of these

jolly inlet
#

It helps to figure out your preferred grip style and weight since there's so many options

thin bolt
#

Isn’t there like a “perfect mouse”?
The G502 or something along those lines

#

Not too into mouses outside of the $30 range

jolly inlet
#

G502 is on the heavy side but it used to be top tier

#

I love mine personally, a heavy mouse suits me perfectly

thin bolt
#

I used a $10 Logitech mouse most of my life

jolly inlet
#

I bet the tracking on that was horrible for snap shots

#

A good mouse can make a huge difference

thin bolt
#

I only used it when I couldn’t use my controller

jolly inlet
#

Please tell me the controller wasn't a F310

#

Or F710, of submarine fame

thin bolt
#

Xbox

#

I’ve always been an Xbox guy
That includes on pc gaming
Me with my old HP playing fallout NV at 25fps

jolly inlet
#

That's fair enough since the button layouts will match on screen

thin bolt
#

Ye

tawdry dragon
jolly inlet
#

It's also a mouse

tawdry dragon
#

Need to cop that

jolly inlet
#

That's the M4-A4/A5 but you get the idea

tawdry dragon
#

Quick problem I'm having if anybody could help rq, my mouse keeps losing tracking and not sure why

jolly inlet
#

Either the sensor is dirty or the surface is

tawdry dragon
#

It's not the mouse since it's on both my g pro wireless and attack shark x6, not my mouse pad

#

Since I also swapped the mouse pad

jolly inlet
#

USB issue then

tawdry dragon
#

That was my guess yeah, might be overloading a USB controller

#

Alr thanks, gn

jolly inlet
#

g'night

torpid night
#

Thanks Carvana 💀

lilac prawn
#

1700

#

A fortune to be sure, carvana says

torpid night
#

Didn't even realize that I posted this in this channel lol

#

Technically a tech deal lol

#

Who wants a 2014 Focus for $1700? Basically the price of a 4090 but it does more. Might have TCM issues but that just makes it more fun of a project

lilac prawn
#

❌Cant run games at max graphics

torpid night
#

Yeah but you can plug in a PS2

#

Technically you can put a PC in it but it uses RCA so you'll need an adapter lol

high radish
#

My car have bigger screen so kekw

cinder kiln
torpid night
cinder kiln
#

But Ford already lost at the 2 year mark

#

Also they're putting advertising in cars now so they'll never see a cent from me 'til death as long as I continue to breathe air

jolly inlet
#

lol the 12100 mops the floor with the 9500 and you can build a pc with a 12400/5600 for less

pallid geyser
#

So good it should be illegal ha ha ha

#

Someone arrest him

terse pine
#

For my accord they said one dollar

#

Mb 100 dollars

jolly inlet
#

Carvana is actually evil though

#

They've been caught selling stolen vehicles kind of evil

torpid night
jolly inlet
#

Yeah I'd double their offer take it or leave it

torpid night
terse pine
#

😂

#

Literally 73k miles the car is brand new

torpid night
#

Lmaooo that thing has at least a decade and a half worth of life left 💀

jolly inlet
#

It's an accord so it'll run right past 300k if you take care of it

fleet marlin
#

Heck, My manual F150 is only at 206K because of sitting a couple years sometimes for certain issues (combines with job/money issues, haha). Accords are great

azure pond
#

Soon to no longer be mine though

#

Thought it was dead but it's still chugging along, selling it for $1150 I think next week

tawdry dragon
#

Good ole days of TikTok shop deals

cinder kiln
#

God damn

molten halo
#

Huh

warm dagger
#

What in the f

torpid night
#

W TikTok moment

tawdry dragon
#

Sadly those are deals from last year :((

pallid geyser
#

Yup rip

#

Now TikTok shop sucks

torpid night
#

You can almost tell when the reviewer reviewing the product doesn't know how to review lol

#

I watched this guy say stuff like "y'all should really buy this desk" when you could see his actual desk setup in the background and this TikTok desk he was reviewing was in the middle of the room and had nothing but a laptop on a stand and a single monitor. Looked way out of place for "I’ve been using this TikTok desk for a couple weeks"

cinder kiln
#

"I tried this desk out for a few weeks, I rented out this empty apartment"

#

"Guys in ski masks came to help me"

#

"I love the feel of this desk, you know a good quality desk when you touch one and this is one of those"

#

"$799, link in bio"

torpid night
#

yeah 💀

#

Only the desks on TikTok (which tbf they don't look too bad) are like $30 lol

#

Like if there was an equivalent to my IKEA Malm on TikTok, it would probably be like $50-$60 lol. If I got my desk new, it would be like $220 straight from IKEA

limpid lava
#

Crew 2:Even though its $1. FPS is capped and I had trouble playing with friends in the crew. Better off buying an arizona to drink

brittle lagoon
#

unfortunately even a can of arizona is over $1 at many places

jolly inlet
#

Not to mention Ubisoft's track record of killing games

#

Like the original Crew

brittle lagoon
#

$1 is still pretty decent for a game, even if you're probably going to have a deadline for when you can play it, and even if it's kinda bad

jolly inlet
brittle lagoon
#

huh

brittle lagoon
jolly inlet
#

You aren't at the right store then 🤷‍♂️

brittle lagoon
#

yea, it's store dependent, suggested is $1 but not always the case

cinder kiln
#

Classic techie server

#

"It's not $1 here"

#

I'm so guilty of this too

fleet marlin
#

Must be some thing about some cans not having the 99 cent label. Plus, pro move is finding a can in 1 of the chilled areas or fridges for the same sub-$1.

brittle lagoon
#

some have the label and gets marked up at the store

brittle lagoon
#

everything expensive

jolly inlet
#

And they send people to the store to stock their own products so the store people can't mix them up

#

That's part of why the 16 oz bottle on the shelf is cheaper than the 12 oz bottle next to the register in the fridge

cinder kiln
#

I'm not a drinker so couldn't tell you what arizona is or if it's even available

jolly inlet
#

My local grocery store stocks a chilled vending machine with water bottles that fell out of the packs of water and sells them for a quarter.

#

Especially the store brand bottles

cinder kiln
#

Ya these come from 24 packs

jolly inlet
#

The arnold palmer tea/lemonade one is good

cinder kiln
#

Well I'm a coffee guy too so there you go lmao

brittle lagoon
#

yea arnold palmer is great

brittle lagoon
#

also report back what the price is lol

cinder kiln
#

💀

#

I was gonna have a look next time I was there but cheers lol

#

There you go 4.70

#

The crew 2 here is $1.50

#

So 3 times the price

#

Am I cooked chat

brittle lagoon
jolly inlet
#

It's 4.70 for the 1.5L bottle

#

Yeah the usual is 20 oz

brittle lagoon
#

by that logic it might actually be equal in price

#

$1.5 for can and $1.5 for crew

jolly inlet
#

2.5x size

cinder kiln
jolly inlet
#

Plus premium for AUD conversion

cinder kiln
#

@limpid lava WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

limpid lava
#

xD

jolly inlet
#

4.70 aud is 3.21 usd so that's not bad

limpid lava
#

we are all avid arizona enjoyers it looks like

brittle lagoon
#

except @cinder kiln who should start buying arizona

cinder kiln
fleet marlin
#

Fal, it's the same $1 22oz canned teas but somebody felt like putting it in a certain chilled fridge or area. Cheers to the employees or store policy. ---Not the small fridges near checkstands though. They're always expensive stuff.

jolly inlet
#

Ah nice

opal flume
cinder kiln
#

Yeah but you've surely been in a situation where you've found yourself buying a cold bottle of water right

#

Really hot day, the taps aren't giving out anything cool enough

#

Reach for the shop fridge and grab something

jolly inlet
#

You need to filter it

#

If you've never seen your shower put out brown water consider yourself lucky

opal flume
#

I bring a metal water bottle anywhere I feel like I'll need a drink

cinder kiln
#

And when it runs out...?

#

I'm sure you've done it at least once

#

Unless you live in alaska

opal flume
#

I fill it up at the closest water source because I put ice in my bottle. Or I wait patiently like a good little boy who just polished off 40oz of water

cinder kiln
#

I'm sure you've done it at least once

#

Like maybe not water, maybe a coca cola

#

It's easy enough to be tempted by refrigeration

#

Lol

#

Forgot your water bottle maybe one day in your life

opal flume
#

If I'm really desperate I'll go to a fast food place with infinite refills and drink as I need after buying a drink. That has only happened once. 6 years ago when I walked 6 miles to the eye glass place because I was socially awkward and couldn't handle the concept of buying a bus ticket

trim pier
cinder kiln
#

Yea see

#

Everyone gets tempted by the cold drink once in a while

#

Lol

trim pier
#

Cold?

#

Nah.

cinder kiln
#

Not u

trim pier
#

I get my arizonas off the shelf at dollar tree

#

And drink it

cinder kiln
#

Ur just less than human

#

Smh

opal flume
#

My man I'm an obese man who walked 6 miles during the height of August heat. And I was stupid and was wearing a spring jacket the entire time because I was uncomfortable being in public

cinder kiln
#

Ya but you still did it

opal flume
#

Yes. Once, 6 years ago after nearly passing out due to heat stroke

cinder kiln
#

Last time I bought bottled water was 2 years ago

#

It still counts lol