tech-deals-discussion

[desert ruin]

hollon

[stoic crest]

yeah, but used is sometimes not an option

or not what i'd want to push people to lol

[desert ruin]

so you want people to waste money

[stoic crest]

because zen 4 really is that efficient

no, it's called paying more for something better

sure the gpu isn't better, but you get much longer battery life

[desert ruin]

10 hours.

10 hours of battery life

you do what you do

still an huge L deal

[stoic crest]

you get the ability to game, all while having backup on the side when you're unplugged and on igpu

the igpu isn't too bad either, it's radeon 760m. enough to go by with older games.

10 hours is claimed, but you can easily get 6-8 hours without doing anything

with laptops, efficiency matter a lot more than a pc

[thin bolt]

Man went back 3 days

[desert ruin]

yes

[stoic crest]

you can't just go "because there's older laptops that perform better"

you don't realize how important it is until you need it

[desert ruin]

"efficiency matters a lot than a pc"
You just said it lasts 6 horus

hours

[stoic crest]

6 hours is a decent run time

[desert ruin]

if you do home office your bill is gonna skyrocket

220v being used every 5 hours for 1 and a half hour

every day

that is gonna make your electricity bill go cary

cray

cray

[stoic crest]

and that's me underestimating the laptop, mind you lol

also, a pc doing office work consumes more than a laptop

and running on battery doesn't use any power

what are you on about

you can just cap power to like 10w, and it'll still be usable for office work

if you really wanna run plugged in

but anyway, i've made my point. take it as you will

im just trying to learn and spread my knowledge

[thin bolt]

They left

[stoic crest]

lol

i was genuinely trying to educate em

i had a feeling they would leave

good thing they did, it'd be bad for the server if they stayed

[thin bolt]

Very negative

Why would they go back 3 days to a listing already ended to tell me it was bad..?

[stoic crest]

exactly

[lilac prawn]

@desert ruin you're a bum, know nothing about the laptops and yet you talk like you know everything lmao

[pallid geyser]

Good to see that psu prices are finally coming back down

[lilac prawn]

Can't even comprehend the idea that running on battery means you aren't drawing from the wall lol

[thin bolt]

They’re gone
But well said

[lilac prawn]

Eh, still fun

[thin bolt]

Saw that deal Bacca posted

Finally reasonable PSU prices

[lilac prawn]

Let's goo

I can once again power my fusion reactor

[thin bolt]

[lilac prawn]

50,000 2500W PSUs coming right up

I'm singlehandedly going to raise the prices

[thin bolt]

[stoic crest]

laptops indeed make a lot of sense when you just want efficiency at all costs

said costs being less expandability

more complex maintenance (in the way that you have to pop the bottom panel open)

the victus isn't remotely thin by any means too

so that thin argument was just silly at best

the sides look thin because well, hp wants it to look thin

[fair moon]

Pretty sure I saw a review of that Dell OEM card and it's actually quite well made

[azure pond]

It's decent, better than a lot of other dell gpus

Cough cough 3080/90

[fair moon]

Lot easier to cool a 3060ti lol

[cinder kiln]

That one was actually relatively good

[azure pond]

i thought it had major vram overheating issues

[cinder kiln]

Cheap design, super simple but actually effective

No the opposite

[azure pond]

was it Hp that did?

[cinder kiln]

It had a heatpipe jn the backplate

So it was good at vram

Relatively speaking all 90 cards had hot vram

The dell was quite a nifty old dog in a sea of high tech

[fair moon]

https://youtu.be/_8k5PCmFm7c?si=evJir369AEG0yV3t

[cinder kiln]

That one little heatpipe does so much

[tawdry dragon]

Y'all ready for prime day? Might buy some stuff myself.

[high radish]

I'm ready to max my credit card limits

[daring depot]

i need to research the best price for a monitor

otherwise, my bank account is gonna look sad

[lilac prawn]

I was ready for steam sale bro

[grand orbit]

@normal spear if you wanna talk about tech deals that's what this channel is for

[trim pier]

where's the prime day channel 😭

cause rn.. I see nothing good except the ninja creami deal

Yk the deals are bad when nothing you've had saved in your save for later didn't change prices after the "deals" started

like no thermal paste or thermal pads even changed price 🥲

[high radish]

at least we have 20% off on amazon warehouse

[zenith lantern]

Looks like it's just another year of lackluster tech deals all around

[high radish]

yeah sadly

[torpid night]

$380 for a 6900 XT is crazy

Bacca having a field day in #tech-deals lolll

[high radish]

but watercooled

I feel like tech deals getting more and more trash recently lol 4th gone without any deal and prime day is also trash lol

[cinder kiln]

Still pretty good regardless

[high radish]

Bought few warehouse items but nothing else yet

[high radish]

There were times I was maxing my 40k credit limit at deals days

[azure pond]

Lmao

[trim pier]

Warehouse deal ain’t bad..

Sadly I’m just a minor that doesn’t have an AMEX, Discover or I think a chase debit/credit card because amazons offering 15-20$ discounts if you add those cards to the account

[thin bolt]

Meanwhile I have 0 credit cards and a bad credit score

[high radish]

[cinder kiln]

Chasing contracts to make you sign up, those deals usually are

Like a cashback offer

[high radish]

I have 40k at amex . And roughly 25k at other cards

[trim pier]

https://www.amazon.com/l/21390503011?ascsubtag=20230711094516dmus00023000070053_IN_i_-_OE_-_P_3655515_835497421_no_refer&linkCode=sl2&tag=blackfrid04c5-20&linkId=4481128b7ec6498295246236bd64e071&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

This is what I saw

And it was discover, Amex, and City

[trim pier]

Honestly the 20$ doesn’t sound bad for discover considering I need a discover student credit card to start building credit

But that’s when I turn 18..

[cinder kiln]

$20 is paltry for a cashback offer

[trim pier]

Nono I don’t think it’s cashback

[cinder kiln]

I'd be looking at APR

[trim pier]

I think it’s just a coupon

[cinder kiln]

Discount either

$20 is paltry lol

[trim pier]

Still, with that 360$ 7800xt goes down to 340$

And usually Amazon coupon stack..

[cinder kiln]

I'd be looking at the whole contract

It could have horrible rates comparatively

[thin bolt]

buy me a pc thank you

[cinder kiln]

(I can't see them so I can't say myself)

[trim pier]

Well ya not all credit cards are pretty most of the time but from what I know

Student has I think 0 APR for 6 months

Then it’s regulsr has 0 for 15 months

Then the rates are like 20-35% depending on your credit rating

It’s not like I’d blow the limit on a fresh credit card and not pay it back

[trim pier]

Which I’m kinda concerned for this man here..

[thin bolt]

@high radish

I would 100% get a pc on a credit card tbh

[trim pier]

I mean I would on a 0% APR for sure

If I had a rate? I do not like owing extra money.

I’d rather be called broke by using a monthly payment installment with 0 APR like amazon or PayPal does

[high radish]

I think my score is bit higher

being in debt isn't that bad lol

[balmy lake]

You need some debt to prove your trustworthy and responsible to build your score. Just don’t want too much of it.

[brisk sphinx]

Debt is how you make more money

Debt is great

[brisk sphinx]

Jesus Christ 20-35%?

[fair moon]

Yeah starter/youth/young adult cards typically have very high APR

[brisk sphinx]

Ahh, never had a card that would be considered a starter

[trim pier]

Ya sadly, it's actually 18-28 but they add on a additional 5% APR for some other things

so close enough from what I was saying

[fair moon]

Mine's like 26.5% I think? But I always pay it off in full before it's due

[trim pier]

Ya if i'm buying something, i'm paying it off as long as I have money for it

i'm not doing some loan crap where I owe extra every month

[brisk sphinx]

Mine is only about 10% ish

[trim pier]

If I need another line of credit i'll do another line of credit

[fair moon]

I don't think that's an offer for opening a new cc, it's just for using specific cards on Amazon

[cinder kiln]

That would be better if so

Like those late 3rd party pay offers they've been running

[trim pier]

Is there any good headsets on "sale" rn?

Price range is up to 80$, something that can have a good mic, audio alright aswell.

[tawdry dragon]

Pc37x, isn't on sale (probably) but is a good headset

[trim pier]

130$ 😭

[tawdry dragon]

Got mine for $60 like new condition lol

Anyways, iirc hyper x is usually better sound quality-wise compared to other brands

[zenith lantern]

Got my pc38x for $110

[trim pier]

Is there any exact hyper X

ik they got like

Cloud III

Cloud X

blah blah blah.

[tawdry dragon]

Not really sure, I think it's just in general

I've had 2 hyper x headsets personally, and both were not bad for the price I paid

But the pc37x that I now have is just way better in terms of comfort and mic sound quality, not to mention the sound stage

[trim pier]

Lucky tbh, i'll keep an eye on it

considering I use a 2019-2020 Kraken tournament edition

[tawdry dragon]

Lucky, how so?

[trim pier]

60$

for a headset like that

[tawdry dragon]

Off ebay

[trim pier]

is so sweet

oh.

[tawdry dragon]

Was in box though, but then again, that box was looked like someone had drop-kicked it

Still had plastic on it though, so ig never used?

[trim pier]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266881278977?

Looks like somebody used it to the point it's offset..

[pallid geyser]

💀

[zenith lantern]

[thin bolt]

Any prebuilt deals around?

On warehouse*

[thin bolt]

I’m not seeing any decent deals for any prebuilt/preowned builds

Good day for parts tho

[trim pier]

Parts are alrigt

That used 7800xt was good

Otherwise no gift card deals really, no good deals on things like PC fans, hubs, thermal paste 😢 , or any headsets/mics.

[fair moon]

https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-Condenser-Recording-Streaming-669B/dp/B06XCKGLTP/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY
or
https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Microphone-Adjustable-Instruments-Streaming-T669/dp/B07Y1C6GDS/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY

[thin bolt]

I was coming here to post that lmao

[fair moon]

I've seen em at those prices before so it's not crazy or anything but pretty good value

@azure pond is 7900xt worth paying 27% more when a 7900gre can be OC'd pretty close to it?

I suppose you do get a bit more vram as well

[azure pond]

Value wise no

[jolly inlet]

You don't really benefit from more than 12GB of vram currently. It's rare for a game to get above 10GB still.

[azure pond]

I still think 16gb is nice to have since ideally you'll use it for a good few years, so I like the extra 4gb the gre offers over the 4070 super

[trim pier]

Any good laptop deals atm?

[proper wagon]

Peeps should keep an eye on Amazon used for gfx cards. I snagged a 4060 LP the other day for 250 - best card for small scale builds rn

[azure pond]

I'd check r/laptopdeals

[grand orbit]

@fair moon cmf buds for 27 is nuttty nice find

[fair moon]

Yeah already decent for $40 so 27 is a steal

[pallid geyser]

That’s a lot of Spaghettihoes

[zenith lantern]

Do I buy a bed during prime day

[prime crow]

yes if its actually on sale

mighjt as well be comfy

[vague pine]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-massage-gif-26541682

[daring depot]

Anyone know a decent router deal?

Idk what's good, I just know my att modem has horrible connection

[shut spoke]

Im so sad i didnt commit on the $630 used very good 7900xtx

[frosty gate]

I'm taking a gamble with a renewed (Refurbed) 12tb seagate drive. I have had very good success in the past with their brand

[cinder kiln]

Hindsight is always 20/20

[ruby scroll]

Quick Question. Is getting the Gigabyte 4070 Super for roughly $600 worth the price or should I opt for a different card?

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-super-gv-n407swf3oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932683?Item=N82E16814932683

[thin bolt]

@cloud hornet isn’t 4070 super bad value? Or am I thinking of 4070 ti super?

[thin bolt]

MSI 4070 super is $569 btw

[fair moon]

I'd probably avoid ventus

But there's a $580 gigabyte model

[ruby scroll]

Heard Ventus isn't really reliable.

[thin bolt]

W MSI being MSI, I would too

[fair moon]

Fine for lower end cards but I'd rather spend the extra $10 for a 3 fan gigabyte model

[thin bolt]

as much as I just don’t like MSI, I really like the look of the cards

[thin bolt]

PNY also has a $579

[fair moon]

Anyways, a 7900GRE ($510 rn) would pull ahead in raster and has more vram, but also has worse upscaling and RT

[thin bolt]

And Zotac

[ruby scroll]

I'm not too knowledgable about that information.

So I'm quite a bit behind in terms of the speficied details.

[thin bolt]

If you just want it to game good out the box, the 4070 super is probably the better bet, but if you want to get down into tuning, the 7900GRE is the better choice. (If you’re willing to sacrifice some upscale/RT as Stevie said)

[ruby scroll]

I'm probably gonna go with the out of the box gaming.

I'm not too knowledgable about messing with that.
And I wouldn't know what does anyways

[thin bolt]

It’s a $60 difference. So it’s all up to you at that point.

What’s your build lookin like @ruby scroll

[ruby scroll]

-_-

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pYQ3jH

[fair moon]

Erm, no bad words in the discord server guys 🤓

[ruby scroll]

That should be what my set up is atm.

[thin bolt]

980ti

[ruby scroll]

Yeah.

That's why I want and need a new gpu

[thin bolt]

if you wanna donate that to the cause for Roomba making a pc

But yeah, I’d strongly suggest that upgrade.

[ruby scroll]

Yeah. Which is why I wanted to know if a $600 4070 super is worth the price for it.

[thin bolt]

I wish the 3090ti would come down in pricing

[ruby scroll]

Since you guys mentioned something about RT and upscaling.
Which I have no idea what those technically means.

[thin bolt]

Ray tracing and up scaling textures usually

Pretty pictures made prettier

[ruby scroll]

Ah I see.

Probably wouldn't want to sacrifice it as much.
Since I'm already dealing with 980 ti graphics on a lower end for most games

[thin bolt]

With a 4070 super, you could do some good stuff in games

[fair moon]

Well, upscaling is the entire image, not just textures. And it does introduce blur and ghosting.

[ruby scroll]

Yeah. I can't wait to see my games in better quality.

[thin bolt]

https://youtu.be/MReofNIPIfo?feature=shared

[fair moon]

Here's a good comparison

http://youtu.be/TLEIDfO6h2E?si=GEtQd0yGT-nmJC5o

[thin bolt]

Before I sold my pc(and got the PSU for a hopeful new one)

I was using a 960, then a 1080

I don’t know how people are still using a 900 series gpu these days

[fair moon]

980ti is a good bump over a 960 pretty sure

[ruby scroll]

Waiting for a good deal to get one

[thin bolt]

Very much

On par with a 1660ti

Instead of being on par with 1050ti

[ruby scroll]

You know what's funny

Watching the video with my graphics doesn't really show which is different XD

[thin bolt]

[ruby scroll]

DARN it!

If it wasn't for the subtitle labeling. I wouldn't be able to tell which.

oh that's funny. Some of the cheaper 7900 gre can't ship to my location so it doesn't even matter now XD

It's basically saving $50 - 75. T_T

[thin bolt]

Oh?

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335481876791?

[severe jolt]

For 600 that's
Almost kinda reasonable

Almost kinda

[thin bolt]

Almost

Case is gonna suffocate it
And ram is lackluster

[severe jolt]

Ye

[fair moon]

Case looks fine to me. Could always put an intake fan up top if needed

[high radish]

nothing today ?

[trim pier]

Nothing good today

There was a refrub 160$ sony xm4 headphones but it sold out quickly

Otherwise nothing

[plain sphinx]

anyone see any good prime deals for flat panel monitors?

hoping for something decent upto 150

[jolly inlet]

Do you need speakers

[plain sphinx]

not at this time (currently using a cheap logitech set up)

[jolly inlet]

https://us-store.msi.com/Monitors/Gaming-Monitors/G255F
(same price but on newegg) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475377

[plain sphinx]

more focused on the screen, right now i have 1 sceptr

nice, beat all the specs of ones i found for 150 XD beside being 25 ".

[jolly inlet]

You don't want to do 27 inches with 1080p anyway, the dpi is too low

[plain sphinx]

good to know! thank you yet again haha

[high radish]

there's few 27 inch qhd monitors around for like 170$ but their panel is meh

[plain sphinx]

yea i dont mind mine, but i think i gotta mess with the settings again. seems kinda dull now

[high radish]

oh that hp omen have beautiful screen

[azure pond]

I've got the x27q, hp branded same thing I belive

Only downside is hp firmware lol

[plain sphinx]

iv never gone referb.. i have trust issues haha. thats one to think about tho

[open sparrow]

Any cheap Wireless Network Adapters on sale? For a gaming pc pcie 1

[high radish]

at least yesterday there was some warehouse items . today is complately empty lol

what a waste of prime day

[open sparrow]

lol

[plain sphinx]

is there any real differences in these monitor stands? i wanna attach one of my screens to the corner of my desk and hang over the middle and another hang under the stairs (that one i haven't found a good one for yet)

[jolly inlet]

Most differences would be in the max supported size and weight. Other than that there's the mounting mechanism to the wall/desk, as well as minor differences in adjustability mechanisms and the actual mounting plate that goes to the monitor.

[north bone]

Does anyone know what some good or decent keyboards are? Without the clicks? Not a fan of the clicky sounds, not sure if all gaming keyboards are clicky though.

[jolly inlet]

The switches determine how "clicky" it is. Look at switch reviews and find one with a sound you like, then try to find keyboards that use that switch.
Might not be the best way but that's how I'd do it.

Alternatively https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/tools/table

[trim pier]

https://www.target.com/b/sennheiser/-/N-5y61u

If anybody is a college student you might be able to get a good deal if there is any good sennheisers on target

[thin bolt]

(Target usually has some refurbished optiplexes for cheap)

[pallid geyser]

Damn, $187 for one of the better cpus and 32gb ddr4? That’d make for one hell of a budget build

[dark ocean]

https://www.backmarket.com/en-us/p/macbook-pro-retina-16-inch-2019-core-i7-32gb-ssd-512-gb/c5a4e445-12af-4420-8241-8c793c0b6f94#l=10&scroll=false

thinking of getting this 2019 mac from backmarket

is it a good idea to buy old mac products or a new dell or lenovo for a simular price

*in excellent condition and a warranty from backmarket

[shut spoke]

https://newegg.io/258cec9

Worth getting?

[cinder kiln]

Ask in peripherals

Iirc they use TTC switches and aren't all bad in those

But 120 is a fair bit

They'll probably have a better option

[cinder kiln]

Go for M1 if you can, plain better

Macbook air used, 2020(?) M1

[dark ocean]

Thats what my other freind said

[cinder kiln]

It's absolutely worth it is why

Superior in so many ways

Most of all battery life

[shut spoke]

It says $32 for me. Are these deals account specific?

[cinder kiln]

Oh $32

In that case, a lot better

Still would ask anyway

[next aurora]

It's a group buy deal

[stray fractal]

Red dragon has started making good cheap peripherals as far as I know

[next aurora]

I've had an RD KB for years now and love it

The $32 deal only happens if enough people sign up to buy it. It's 41% unlocked now so don't count on it

[dark ocean]

MacBook Air (2022) 13.3-inch - Apple M2 8-core and 8-core GPU - 8GB RAM - SSD 256GB for 749.99
or
MacBook Pro (2020) 13.3-inch - Apple M1 8-core and 8-core GPU - 16GB RAM - SSD 512GB 864.99
(for economics university work)

[cinder kiln]

How much is the 2020 one

Same price or less I'd go with the pro tbh

[dark ocean]

pro is 864

mb

[cinder kiln]

Mmmm

wait

644 or 864

??

[dark ocean]

im going insane

yeah 864

[cinder kiln]

Lmao

864 is a bit debatable but 100 extra for more ram and more storage makes a bit of sense

I would do 800 if you can negotiate

It's still kind of the better choice

M2 wasn't exactly revolutionary

M1 was the big moment for apple

[swift forge]

@dark ocean I’d ask the seller if they can check the battery health

It’ll make it easier to negotiate and see if you’ll need to replace it soon

Tho I think their price is pretty reasonable imo

[stray fractal]

It's from backmarket, not a singular seller

[trim pier]

@azure pond Going to need your help - Tiktok is doing this "Invite friends and get a .01 item of your choice (shipping and tax fees are not covered)" on their shop, issue is i'm unable to get a single invite "point" cause of some error ig.

I don't know if you have the same promo deal going on right now and could try using bluestacks to figure this out with me?

cause I could get an SN770 for ".01" or DDR5 aswell.

[azure pond]

Likely a fake "deal"

I'll try it when I can

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204898675756?

@azure pond would the “corrosion” on the card be worth getting for a customer? Or should I look for something else?

[azure pond]

I would avoid

Personally

If it functions it functions

[thin bolt]

Yeah true

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276559072831?

[stoic crest]

wack pc

[zenith lantern]

Hmm

[pallid geyser]

That’s expensive

Dang

[swift forge]

There’s even more expensive rice cookers

Anyone know why reason some rice cookers r so expensive?

I tried looking it up but no answers

[pallid geyser]

I dunno cos you can make rice just as easy in like a pressure cooker or something

[swift forge]

That’s what I was thinking as well

But ig it’s the gimmicks that make it more expensive

Like reheating and the amount of rice u can cook

[pallid geyser]

Yeah true

[swift forge]

Wait maybe it’s like a social status symbol when u inv people for food

Just flex the rice cooker

[lilac prawn]

Never seen that brand before

[stoic crest]

probably sells mostly in japan

[lilac prawn]

Probably

[wide onyx]

#tech-deals message
At least it’s coming from Zotac’s ebay site. You still have to wonder why they have so many open box available for purchase

[fair moon]

I think they typically stockpile them and then list a bunch at once, but I could be wrong

[stoic crest]

plausible tbh

[tawdry dragon]

I can tell you that they make really good products,I've had one of their kettles for 7 years now and it still works like brand new.

[molten halo]

Any ~$900 prebuilt deals around?

[cinder kiln]

Yes

Go make a $700 pc, build it

Sell it to person

[molten halo]

Pfff I don’t want to be tied to the person

[cinder kiln]

Who said anything about marriage

[molten halo]

Hey Darvan you didn’t plug this in all the way hey Darvan can you ship to cali

[cinder kiln]

Hey darvan

[molten halo]

Gimme the easy out

[cinder kiln]

Money

[molten halo]

I’m busy

[cinder kiln]

Ask bacca for prebuilt

I am not the prebuilt guy

Unless you don't mind a laptop

[molten halo]

@azure pond

[azure pond]

Is open box/refurb ok?

[molten halo]

Yeah

[azure pond]

900 pre builts aren't great value typically

Or does he have a microcenter by chance?

[molten halo]

Just near it would be fine

Sec a friend of the friend situation

[azure pond]

Ah alr, I'll grab some options

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155782964814?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

This is pretty good value, id replace the ram with a 32gb kit and sell the 16gb stick

Doesn't necessarily have to be immediately, but it would noticeably help performance

[molten halo]

https://a.co/d/16xqht8 this is the baseline atm

[azure pond]

The one I linked is cheaper and better

[molten halo]

Yeah

[azure pond]

In every way aside from maybe case?

Not sure about psu/ssd too tbf

I'm still looking for some other options

The gotos I used are oos now aside from the one above

[molten halo]

ty for the assist

[azure pond]

This is $80 cheaper, but you get a 30% worse gpu and a much worse cpu, I don't know the exact difference
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali635-master/p/N82E16883360300C?Item=N82E16883360300C&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-300C-_-07232024

Any option I'm seeing is just much worse value than that one on ebay lol

$600 10400f 3060
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564-master/p/N82E16883360194C?Item=N82E16883360194C&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-194C-_-07232024

I'd still take the ebay build over this, but with microcenter
https://www.microcenter.com/product/676226/powerspec-g517-gaming-pc

[molten halo]

Ty again for the options

[tawdry dragon]

not sure if i'ts a good deal, but it's $40 for a 240m rad from redragon? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCP5LHXR

never knew that they made aios

[jolly inlet]

Probably worse than similar priced air coolers

But if someone wants to take a chance with it possibly leaking or the pump failing, by all means

[fair moon]

I'd probably just grab this for $46

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BvmNnQ/thermalright-aqua-elite-v3-6617-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-240-black-v3

[marsh sphinx]

im not sure if this is how my ethernet stats should look, i was checking my stats because i noticed that i just downloaded telegram and every time i open it, it stops responding

[marsh sphinx]

update: i think i just wanna force download windows 11, because my pc cant even use the search bar, i cant close out of tabs properly, even OBS crashes when i try to close it. I cant download telegram, nor google, none of my downloads fully complete either. ive redownloaded windows

anyone know how to do that, and if i probably shouldnt with the current specs i have?

[jolly inlet]

First option, Windows 11 installation assistant.
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
As long as you meet the hardware requirements like TPM and secure boot then 11 isn't any harder to run than 10. It'll let you know what you need to do, if anything.

[marsh sphinx]

i found out earlier(i should’ve mentioned) that i don’t have enough ran to run it

i only have 16gb

[jolly inlet]

That should be enough

It can run on 8gb

[marsh sphinx]

someone told me it took an hour for their thing to boot up with 16 gb?

[marsh sphinx]

and i don’t run the requirements for TPM

[jolly inlet]

Who said that? I was running 16gb for ages on my 5800X system

[marsh sphinx]

i was desperate because my pc is just running so garbage.. no idea why

[jolly inlet]

What processor do you have

[marsh sphinx]

interesting

[marsh sphinx]

i3 9100f

next one i’m getting is a ruben 5 5600, but that’s for my new setup

[jolly inlet]

The 9100 should be new enough, it's 8th Gen and newer they want (and some 7th)

[marsh sphinx]

how come they want such high specs?

[jolly inlet]

You probably just need to update your BIOS

[marsh sphinx]

i’ll need to see how to do that

[jolly inlet]

It's more the security features that TPM enables. Microsoft wants their OS to be more secure, so they want a recent hardware device.

[marsh sphinx]

eh i don’t really plan on doing anything sketchy anyway

just official sources

[jolly inlet]

Well if you want to play certain games (Apex iirc) you need TPM anyway for the anti cheat

[marsh sphinx]

does it use the same as squad?

[jolly inlet]

No idea

[marsh sphinx]

it had a panda on its logo

[jolly inlet]

But what they use it for is a more permanent ban of cheaters, instead of the usual IP ban that's easy to get around you can ban the exact computer used to cheat, and they need to change hardware to get around that.

[marsh sphinx]

and if they can’t?

[jolly inlet]

If you don't have the TPM you can't play

[marsh sphinx]

i see

i’ll update the bios tomorrow if i can, i’ll look up how to check if i need it and how to

[marsh sphinx]

then i’ll download this after

[jolly inlet]

Download cpu-z and grab a screenshot of the mainboard tab, that'll tell us what exact board you have and what BIOS version you're on

So we can point you to the right BIOS to download

[marsh sphinx]

alright

i’ll try to reply to the message tmmr and get it workin

[jolly inlet]

I may be busy but there's plenty of people that can help you update

[torpid night]

That's like saying that my car won't start because I recently got a tire rotation

[marsh sphinx]

i’m sorry i’m confused

[jolly inlet]

I think that's the point

The two things are entirely unrelated

[torpid night]

The amount of RAM doesn't determine boot times

[marsh sphinx]

i see

[fleet marlin]

Been a long time since we even only had 4GB of ram, but back then slow booting was still usually about a crappy drive.

[torpid night]

I mean maybe back then you could have like the most amount of memory possible for the time and the computer would have to run a memory check (like a memory counter)

That would take forever if you had a maxed out PC for MS-DOS (whatever you'd be doing with that at the time lol)

[fleet marlin]

My dad had some 98SE or Win 2000 stuff, but been a while since I've used anything pre-XP, lol. At libraries or w/e, saw plenty of XP machines doing fine w/ 4GB ram, haha. 8GB of course was way closer to being decent.

[jolly inlet]

4GB was a luxury on XP, I ran it on 192MB

4GB was also the limit on XP (only about 3.5GB was addressable on 32 bit) unless you got the inferior 64 bit version

[fair moon]

if the long boot was a one time thing could that be like memory profile training?

[fleet marlin]

Ram training can take a while, yes, that's common w/ ddr5 setups especially AM5

[fleet marlin]

Totally forgot the 4GB 32bit limit, haha. Cut both numbers I said for XP in 1/2 then. Main thing I remember is many old pcs in some. Libraries or low tech schools often had crap hdds where rebooting would take 5+ minutes, etc.

[warm axle]

About to go meet up with a guy to sell him a computer with i9 7980xe, 128GB DDR4 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 500Gb SSD, 2TB HDD, and 1,000 WATT PSU for $800. Any last minute suggestions if I should sell at that price or not.

I haven't confirmed the sale with him yet so it's still okay for me to pull out

[thin bolt]

Good price @warm axle

Sell it

[warm axle]

ok

[marsh sphinx]

looks like a sketchy website, its https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_2.10-en.exe right?

[jolly inlet]

Correct

[marsh sphinx]

got it running, now what

[jolly inlet]

Here's your latest BIOS version, it explicitly states that this version supports Windows 11 with default settings. https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7C39v142.zip

How to flash
https://storage-asset.msi.com/files/pdf/How_to_flash_the_BIOS.pdf

[marsh sphinx]

thanks, gonna work on this once i put some of my stuff for sale

gonna try and redo my next pc build plan since i didnt do too much research on my previous parts

[marsh sphinx]

what happens if i wanna revert back?

[thin bolt]

https://www.facebook.com/share/pgrFUfE2dPJhKzBm/?mibextid=79PoIi

If you can see it

[jolly inlet]

You just flash the older version the same way

[marsh sphinx]

i see

[shut lava]

That Asus Prime X670-P WiFi motherboard is also the same price on newegg. https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x670-p-wifi/p/N82E16813119588

[high radish]

That probuild gone with the wind

[fair moon]

There's this as well but only 1 left

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166827204434

[burnt prawn]

Do any of yall got some recommendations for a good tv for my ps5?

[jolly inlet]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-usage/video-gaming

[burnt prawn]

Ty

[lilac prawn]

just don't connect it to the internet

EVER

[thin bolt]

^^^^^^

[stoic crest]

Surprisingly

Walmart still has that $600 victus with 4050

They're really getting rid of it huh

[high radish]

Maybe because victus have trash plastic body 🤷🏻‍♂️

[stoic crest]

It can't be that bad

Just don't drop it

They did make some improvements for 2024 tho

[daring depot]

idk

yall think MSI or HP has worse hinge quality?

[cinder kiln]

That's a weird question

[jolly inlet]

Normally yes, but HP is a special case where 90% of their laptops have issues with the cables running through the hinges

[dry flume]

HP is a lame laptop brand

overall

[cinder kiln]

HP isn't the only one that does this

[jolly inlet]

Right, but HP is the brand that makes no effort to improve it, ever. It's been the same design flaw for over 20 years.

[pallid geyser]

Why’s that?

[balmy lake]

I don’t know about other brands but there’s this…

LG recently did an update that forces ads on you even watching regular TV

No internet, no ads.

[balmy lake]

⬆️

[jolly inlet]

They all spy on you by default. Everything from watch history to your actual audio transcripts gets sold to advertisers, depending on the model, because ofc a TV needs a microphone now.

[fleet marlin]

Ah, a small perk to just sticking w/ a separate roku box or such at most

[jolly inlet]

Personally I'd block internet access on the router side so I can still use the chromecast functionality. That's all I would need from the smart features.

[next aurora]

PiHole it

[thin bolt]

I got a new tv a few months ago from my aunt
Haven’t connected it to internet
Won’t ever

I have a fire stick and that’s all I need

[pallid geyser]

That all definitely sucks but do phones not do the same thing

[balmy lake]

Absolutely. But why add more to it. and at least ads (for now) dont pop up before you can make a call or open an app, etc.

[next aurora]

It's always interesting when people can't see things that makes it "more" OK (phone), but seeing it happen is not, despite it being the same thing. This the age in which everyone is paying to be the product. I'd recommend getting a Samsung TV, our is always connected but I have yet to see any ads. May eventually happen but for now, not yet.

[opal flume]

Buy CRT TV, no tracking, much durable, cheap

[fleet marlin]

If there was even just a 1080p vs of my old 32" curtis mathis, I'd happily pay $500+ for it. Cathode Rays 4 life

[uncut portal]

@stoic crest can you add in more ram to the laptop you posted?

[jolly inlet]

I call BS. If you do much as sneezed wrong that cathode tube would die.

[opal flume]

My man I had a CRT TV, one of the bigger ones, fall directly onto the ground screen first, got a bunch of liquid in the internals from drink spills as a very messy young boi, bonked by numerous thrown PS2 controllers and remote controls and the worse damage it had was a broken dvd player cover flap after 9 years of use. I've dropped one of the giant ones out of the side of a trailer and it functioned perfectly

A modern flat screen gets flicked too hard and the screen breaks

And the flat screen doesn't even come with the free static charges the crt screens had

[stoic crest]

yes you can

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186248096577?

Budget cpu for $61 total

[torpid night]

Lmao I’m about to pair one of those with a 6800 XT (it's gonna be a mess lmao)

Things I do with spare parts ™️

[lilac prawn]

Good Work

[balmy lake]

Only problems i ever had with CRT was if something magnetic got too close. But it would eventually return to normal.

[azure pond]

idk if $500 6950xt is much of a deal anymore

[shut lava]

I wouldn't buy a 6900 or 6950 for much more than $400.

[high radish]

yeah I bought 6950xt for 500$ a year ago but today it's questionable

[marble edge]

R7 5800x coming from a 2700x or spend more for the 5800x3d? Not planning the jump to am5 yet. I don’t need it. Only running 1080p still I’m fine with 120-165 fps but running the new cpu choice with a 6700xt. Just not sure the prices I’m seeing for the x3d’s are worth that difference to the $119-139 of the 5800x. I might have posted this in the wrong thread but I figured y’all understood the pricing part of this

[next aurora]

If this upgrade is going to last you a few years, x3d is worth the extra money

Also make sure you get some decently fast ram for whichever you choose, 3600 is the sweet spot for AM4

Either processor will be great for you and a large upgrade.

The X3D also doesn't apply to all games so if you can afford the extra $100 I'd do it. If you can't afford it, the 5800x will be great also

[thin bolt]

heheh 69

[azure pond]

5700x3d

[next aurora]

I forgot those were a thing

Yes, that one

[shut lava]

The good deals on the 5800X3D haven't been happening lately. Its definitely worth the $100+ savings to get the 5700X3D.

[tawdry dragon]

might not be, but at least it's not a bad deal

[grand orbit]

Go with 5700x or 5700x3d unless they cost more than the 5800x counterparts in your country

[grand orbit]

Yes but if they have 3200, spending some on not much faster ram would honestly be a waste

[trim pier]

For 600$ is this still good https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Victus-15-6-inch-FHD-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop-AMD-Ryzen-5-8645HS-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4050-8GB-DDR4-512GB-SSD-Mica-Silver-2024/5395277312

Or is there any better offers? Mainly looking at MC and other websites

[azure pond]

Yes

Very good

[trim pier]

alr

[trim pier]

Sorry for ping but would you know what type of ram this is coming with and what kit of ram I could put in it?

Cause walmarts website has it named DDR5 but it's description has it as DDR4 💀

[next aurora]

Better be DDR5, CPu can't support DDR4

[fleet marlin]

Note that walmart typos aren't rare

[trim pier]

Ik

just I hate how there's so many versions of laptops

Hard to find what the info says it is

[stoic crest]

it is ddr5

zen 4 is strictly ddr5

and someone bought this walmart lappy as well

i gave em some ram reccs and yes, it indeed was ddr5

[trim pier]

Can you also give me ram rec's? 😭

My cousin is buying it, saved him a trip from going to Microcenter alone with his thought process of "i3 bad, i9 good, more ram = better"

[stoic crest]

any ddr5 5600

but imma throw you a link

[trim pier]

Ya all I could find was ddr5 5600 for the laptop

nothing else higher for it

[stoic crest]

https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Signature-5600MHz-SODIMM-Single/dp/B0BQM8SRKF/ref=mp_s_a_1_12

cheap option

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-PC5-44800-Computer-SP032GBSVU560F22/dp/B0CQQ9MCCJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_8

optimal option

[trim pier]

Would I buy two or just one?

Considering the "never use two different types of ram" situation

[stoic crest]

laptops don't care

it's jedec

they all run the same spec

[trim pier]

Alright

thank you!

[thin bolt]

Hey fiancés pc has their nvme lmao

[trim pier]

Pulled from Alienware laptop

No clue if it’s any better than the cheaper option

[azure pond]

Theyre fine

[cinder kiln]

What on earth is a 6550m

[stoic crest]

6500m but slightly oc'd

im iffy about it because it's blergh

and 4gb vram

[azure pond]

Better than 2050 which is what's typically around that price point

Around 30% better

[stoic crest]

dang

ok i take back my statement

[azure pond]

Still not the best, $120 extra for that 4050 laptop would be better

But for low end it's solid value

[azure pond]

Looks like 6550m is <10% slower than a 1650s

[trim pier]

@stoic crest @azure pond sorry for ping but do you know what to remove on that victus for bloatware?

Cousin just got it this morning & his system is using 6Gb/16gb of memory (he installed the extra 8) while idle

[fair moon]

Idle ram usage doesn't matter

But for bloat you could try the script pinned in #windows-ios

[trim pier]

Ty

[fleet marlin]

An option is find out the windows key of that system, then fresh install windows like prebuilt pc users do sometimes.

[jolly inlet]

Or, sign into your Microsoft account so the key automatically gets associated to your account (you can use a dummy account you only use for Windows if you don't like being tracked)

[thin bolt]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/36781/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-xc-ultra-8-gb-gddr6?

[fleet marlin]

Ah, lancool215 is $38 shipping from 3rd party for me.

[azure pond]

Smh bad techie (definitely wasn't me)

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266765054782?

[azure pond]

hey thats my card

[thin bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/filian-poggywoggy-poggie-woggie-fidilian-snackers-gif-22897727

[torpid night]

Q-series Keychron keyboards for sub $100 is crazy

[pallid geyser]

Hmmm

[opal flume]

Wow. Humble's donation options have gotten significantly worse over the years. Choose between paying the game company, one charity and paying Humble with a mandatory minimum cut for Humble regardless of what you choose

The default donates 75 cents to the charity when you do the 15

[jolly inlet]

Yeah Humble used to be much better

When their monthly sub was actually good and not just one halfway good game and a bunch of indie titles no one has heard of

[pallid geyser]

yeah agreed

i just struggle to find anything worthwhile nowadays

[fair moon]

I will forever remember the support Ukraine bundle as the last great Humble Bundle 🫡

[tawdry dragon]

I got one game bundle from them, and it was arguably one of the best ones. The one with every major racing game in it (other than the really expensive ones)

[jolly inlet]

Ah yeah that's how I got Project Cars

I liked the Star Wars bundle personally

[trim pier]

45$ z790 got me jumping up and down till I realized it was a ddr4

I mean I could replace my Tuf z690 but no point tbh 😭

[fleet marlin]

It's even better if you're trying to build an extra pc or something. cheap 16GB kit + current 12400 system could replace my old E8400 setup. NE does have a decent warranty I figure, in case pins aren't ok.

[jolly inlet]

A 12400 would double the CPU performance of my home server. But do I need one

[mighty whale]

Picked up a z790 aorus master x from mc for 140. crazy deal

[fleet marlin]

I need someone to mail me something from MC, haha. $50+ in gas to go there. -- Fal, wonder if Rommy had another 12400.

[mighty whale]

one near me has so much open box stock that everything thats open stock on the floor is also 50% off

my friend got a lian li v3000 for 138 haha

[jolly inlet]

Open box from them is also very low risk since they have similar policies for them compared to buying new

[mighty whale]

yeah, the protection plan is also so worth it. just wait a few years and return it for an upgrade or if it is broken return it right away

[warm dagger]

Mine has a open box 4080s for 900

[thin bolt]

Mine has a….
Never mind:(

[trim pier]

used?

[warm dagger]

Well open box stuff are kind of used ofc

[mighty whale]

open box

[warm dagger]

But their bundles are where the money’s at

[mighty whale]

mine got an open box xtx for 688 😭

[warm dagger]

Wth

What aib?

[mighty whale]

hellhound

not even horrible

[warm dagger]

Damn

If it was a tuf or nitro i would have went crazy

[mighty whale]

i mean for 688

[warm dagger]

Fr that’s what i paid for my 7900xt

😭

[mighty whale]

my xtx was like 1100 at the time i think

[warm dagger]

Also their bundles are incredible sometimes like my 7800x3d bundle i got last month came with a tuf b650 mobo and cl32 6000mhz 32gb ddr5 for 480

If i bought them all separately even on discounts would end up paying 150-200 more

[mighty whale]

i find that their ram is pretty bad though, every bundle ive gotten has been pretty meh

[warm dagger]

So it technically covered the cost of a typical mobo

[mighty whale]

but like thats not a bad thing really for the price

[warm dagger]

They allow you get a different ram kit and still get the discount on the cpu

I didn’t know at the time so still got the cl32 like a sucker

[mighty whale]

ah ok fair

[warm dagger]

[mighty whale]

the x3d doesnt handle low timings high speed amazingly anyways

[warm dagger]

Yh the cpu discount is insane

[mighty whale]

damn lmao

[lilac prawn]

doesnt ddr5 in in a different way than ddr4 and so the higher latencies don't matter as much?

[thin bolt]

How’s a 2070 super for $150 sound

[jolly inlet]

ntb

About right for a local seller

[thin bolt]

Interesting

[warm dagger]

Heard abt that and apparently the speeds dont influence performance with x3d chips according to reviews

Still need to look more into it to be sure

[azure pond]

Yes and no

5600mhz+ cl32 or lower (no higher than 6400) is ideal, since it's hynix die and can be tuned easily

6000c32/c30 is best value atm

[lilac prawn]

all i know is never get c*rsair ram

mixed bins galore

[warm dagger]

I paid like 100 for my cl32 6000 ram and discovered a month later i could have bundled in a different kit, do u think i paid a bad price for it?

[azure pond]

However if you compare a system with 6000c30 and another with 6000c36 that are otherwise identical, you likely won't see a difference (unless benchmarking/looking for the difference in numbers)

[azure pond]

Nah

[warm dagger]

Oh cool thx

[azure pond]

You could go into bios and follow a quick yt tutorial and bring the timings down fairly easily

[warm dagger]

How much does cl30 cost usually?

[azure pond]

Like 10-20min easy

[azure pond]

$84-92 from silicon power

[warm dagger]

Is it mobo chipset dependent?

[azure pond]

Almost any b650/a620/x670 could do it

[warm dagger]

Nice

[azure pond]

Even the cheapest should be able to

Cpu oc is a different story lol

Even then there's very cheap options, like b650m hdv (unfortunately always oos or overpriced) holds 7950x oc world record

[warm dagger]

I honestly dont want to go down that rabbit hole 😭

[azure pond]

Yeah cpu oc isn't really worth it unless chasing numbers anymore

[jolly inlet]

The extra L3 cache "hides" the extra latency from using slower memory, so the memory itself has less impact but it still does have an impact on performance

[lilac prawn]

When are we getting 32gb of L3 cache

[jolly inlet]

eta 2062

[warm dagger]

Will we even need ram at that point 😭

[trim pier]

1tb of ram when

[trim pier]

1tb of consumer branded ram when*

[thin bolt]

https://www.techradar.com/pro/massive-1tb-ram-coming-soon-as-samsung-debuts-largest-memory-module-ever-but-it-wont-be-cheap

[high radish]

finally 2tb ssds under 100$ again

[thin bolt]

Sub $300 3080

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166896263670?

[jolly inlet]

Ventus though

Very hot even if you paste and pad swap because the cooler is aluminum

Very little copper

[thin bolt]

Frick

[pallid geyser]

Also only 10gb

Which is what I have but still

[lilac prawn]

🅱️entus

[stoic crest]

tbh

id say it's still a deal

[civic sun]

Damn someone needs to yell at me when there are ssd deals i keep missing them

[stoic crest]

lmao

[prisma mortar]

lmao

[torpid night]

lmao

[trim pier]

lmao

[thin bolt]

lmao

[azure pond]

oaml

[daring depot]

Lmfao

[cloud hornet]

luh-mao

[thin bolt]

Roflmao

[pallid geyser]

tee-heemao

[opal flume]

[thin bolt]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-0053-00V03?

[rare plover]

Okay, so asking for best info.

Is there any way to tell when a deal would end or not? at least on newegg

Specifically wondering if two specific GPU deals would expire by the end of the month?

[jolly inlet]

It usually either says on the product page when the sale ends, or the sale is only "while supplies last." I've seen sales end early because they were so popular.
A month is quite unlikely, but there should be different sales by then.

[rare plover]

Well, not the whole month, just for another 2 weeks moreso

Specifically this
https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4080-super-zt-d40820q-10p/p/N82E16814500581

And this
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4080-rtx-4080-16gb-gaming-x-slim-white/p/N82E16814137843

Would it be best to assume the sale price on the Zotac would end with the Black Myth Wukong Promotion's end?

[cinder kiln]

If it's not stated when it will end, you could maybe contact customer service to get information on a planned sale end date

But do note these are not firm dates

They are often paid and planned

But subject to change

[jolly inlet]

These will be the second type of sale, "while supplies last"

[cinder kiln]

Yep

[high radish]

https://a.co/d/c7nxW3X cheapest 4080 super yet

[rare plover]

Saw that, but PCPart Picker ripped it out a bit afterwards, and the listing on Amazon seems sketch as it's seperate from the main one

[cinder kiln]

Seen cheaper from zotac

Sub 900

💀

[cinder kiln]

It's genuine. Amazon.com supplier

[rare plover]

So bigger question is would either run out in 2 weeks (or is there any way to track supplies and get a supply warning)

[jolly inlet]

There is no way to track it

[cinder kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[rare plover]

Either way, not the most confident in Amazon for GPUs with reports of getting reseller GPUs despite being "from Amazon"

[cinder kiln]

To the same effect you buy from anyone else

[jolly inlet]

It can be sold by third parties and shipped by Amazon, that's where the complaints usually are

[cinder kiln]

If it's amazon sold and shipped then it's direct retail

Which this one is

[rare plover]

Either way, main problem with this one is that it's a quad-slot chonker of a GPU versus the Zotac or even the MSI "Slim"

Like, it runs cool and is in white, but gonna need a bracket or vert-mount for that (and ample depth in either direction)

[high radish]

Only seen warehouse sub900

[cinder kiln]

@rare plover only pick a slim model if you are completely size restricted. The thing ones are noisy and hot for large GA102/103

A gaming slim is literally a ventus btw

[rare plover]

Ak, so go for the Zotac?

[cinder kiln]

Shared cooler, upgraded vrm

Zotac trinity is fine

Gaming slim is almost essentially lipstick on the pig 💀

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155985525984

Would this qualify as a deal?

[azure pond]

yes

[thin bolt]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restored-Lenovo-IdeaCentre-Gaming-5-17ACN7-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700G-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3060-16GB-Ram-512GB-SSD-1TB-HDD-W11H-Refurbished/3728801816

How about this?

[azure pond]

Meh

[dull flame]

Where can someone get switch games at a discounted price?

Gamestop just lowered the price by 5 dollars.

[pallid geyser]

Good luck

[thin bolt]

eBay

[dull flame]

Thanks

Can only find the entire switch and not the just the games though.

[thin bolt]

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m99522519703?sv=0

[marsh sphinx]

any particular reason why my chrome setup has been initializing for the past 9 hours?

[thin bolt]

Chrome

[marsh sphinx]

what

[marsh sphinx]

^ same with telegram

stuck on “not responding” eternally

[thin bolt]

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m46017391075?sv=0

12TB hdd

[marsh sphinx]

Specs:
Core i7-12700K
Gigabyte Z790 EAGLE Mobo
Corsair Vengance 2x16GB DDR5 RAM
Crucial P3 Plus 2TB SSD
RX 7700 XT 12 GB
Corsair 850 W PSU

My friend wants these specs, is there anything he can change?

He had a budget of $1.2K USD

[stoic crest]

meh

can do better at 1.2k

[azure pond]

Gaming?

[marsh sphinx]

Ya

[marsh sphinx]

yeah i told him that too

what could I change

[azure pond]

Any preference for aesthetics?

[shut lava]

Threw this together in a few minutes for $1200. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkMqGP

Faster GPU without X3D CPU https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h8Vswg

[azure pond]

Sorry I got side tracked with my niece and nephew

[marsh sphinx]

they just sent me this and stopped responding

[azure pond]

$1000
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CpCfqR

Better build around 1.2k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ntvHXk

[azure pond]

Oof

Alright

[marsh sphinx]

alright i’ll send them those

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x8pqGP

@marsh sphinx

Aio is very unnecessary on that cpu

[marsh sphinx]

i assume it cools it down a pretty good amount?

or it doesn’t

[azure pond]

It doesnt really make much of a difference

Am5 is super easy to cool

A 214xt tower cooler would be fine, $17

Just included bc of the aesthetic they wanted

[marsh sphinx]

yeah

i’ll let ya know what they say

thanks a lot btw your great help

[azure pond]

Np

[marsh sphinx]

he says he wants a fishbowl case

whatever that means

[shut lava]

Glass on two or more sides.

[marsh sphinx]

ohh

[azure pond]

Montech xr fits the bill

Alternatives include neo qube, sky two, king 95, xt view

View 270

Good few others as well

Antec c3

I'm a fan of the xr, view 270, and c3 in terms of price for what you get atm

But all of them are fine choices

[marsh sphinx]

he likes it but he doesn’t like how expensive the gpu is, he said the cpu was good but worse core wise too but i don’t know about that stuff

[cinder kiln]

@marsh sphinx what's the pc for

[marsh sphinx]

lemme ask him

he said he wanted to play VR with it and to make his room look cool

[cinder kiln]

What kind of vr

@marsh sphinx

[marsh sphinx]

oculus quest 2

he likes VRC and half life alyx

[cinder kiln]

@marsh sphinx yep my list is hardly any different
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBvzt7

He can either have a compromise of aesthetics and acceptable performance or he can have one and not the other

I can't even fully affadavit this case, but this is the only way it goes to sub 1k if he wants it to look a certain way

1K is a very hard budget to fit aesthetics, performance and quality all into one budget for alyx like this

So it won't really improve unless the budget is blown way out or expectations of aesthetics are dropped way down

$1200 and it really doesn't improve from here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jx9hCd

Can stretch to 7500F off aliexpress for an extra 40 *less or so, with no loss in perf, that's about it

That might have you get enough for one specific type of infinity fans

Yep just barely
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4MwGyg

[marsh sphinx]

i’m sure he can probably buy fans separately

[cinder kiln]

I mean if they prefer, but only infinity fans I recommend these days are M12s

[marsh sphinx]

they run in white?

[cinder kiln]

Aesthetics are already getting rather dangerously close to 2 whole performance upgrades
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmFF7R

[cinder kiln]

Yes they have white and black

[azure pond]

Core count is irrelevant

[marsh sphinx]

ah

[marsh sphinx]

alright

[azure pond]

Well

Not irrelevant

[marsh sphinx]

now he’s wondering if he can get the gpu in white

[cinder kiln]

Irrelevant in this discussion

[marsh sphinx]

he wants an all white build

[azure pond]

But the 7600, 12600k, and 12700k all game very similarly

[cinder kiln]

Not the 6700xt one

[azure pond]

And am5 makes more sense

[cinder kiln]

If we put a white gpu, it means there's a good one in white available

If not, then there's not a good one available at that price

Both me and bacca make attempts to fit those sorts of preferences in if available

[marsh sphinx]

He just boosted his budget to 1.4k for a nzxt aio lmao

[cinder kiln]

That's xtx money

[marsh sphinx]

yeah

[cinder kiln]

Can't think of a single situation I'd recommend one so if that's what they prefer ig

[marsh sphinx]

ig he likes to be able to see his cpu temp

he wanted aesthetics as well and he got a new job with me so

he kept spamming that pic i sent

[next aurora]

$300 for an AIO to show temp. Ouch.

[marsh sphinx]

this one

[cinder kiln]

Yeah wouldn't matter which nzxt it is

Only NZXT I recommend are c series gold psus or the rare usb controller, nothing else

There is always a better choice

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jhdG3C/id-cooling-sl240-78-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-sl240-white

[cinder kiln]

Thermalright does what NZXT likes doing for less, as does id cooling and evga

Montech have better build quality cases as well

[azure pond]

Next cheapest aio with an lcd display
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JVwmP6/nzxt-kraken-280-rgb-9079-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-rl-kr280-w1

Still wouldnt suggest it

Either of them, but id take the sl240 out of any of the options with an lcd display

[cinder kiln]

Worse performance than the 240 aqua

[azure pond]

Yeah

[grand orbit]

What happened to the deepcool one?

[lilac prawn]

Aren't they banned

In the US

God forbid you sell PC cooling equipment lmao

[brittle lagoon]

Yea they can't do any business anymore

[torpid night]

Yes

[grand orbit]

Oh forgot about that

[tawdry dragon]

@azure pond you put the same link twice

[pallid geyser]

Ye they both lead to the 4060

[azure pond]

Oops

One sec

Ty

[thin bolt]

Any deals on some cheap gaming PCs?
that aren’t optiplexes

[lilac prawn]

dell 🅱️optiplex

[thin bolt]

🇩3LL 🅱️0️⃣pt1pL3🙅‍♀️

[daring depot]

dell 🇳 optiplex

[shut lava]

Define cheap

[thin bolt]

Less than $250 @shut lava

Like 970 builds or RX 580 type cheap

[marsh sphinx]

where could I get help with OS issues?

[torpid night]

#building-and-recc-chat

[marsh sphinx]

thanks

[stable knoll]

hey guys I need some advice
so I do have 1660s and ryzen 5 3500x I wanna upgrade my gpu like 4060 or 3060 but I have some concerns about bottleneck imma play on 1440p

so which one would be better choice

I might have some bottleneck problems for sure but I don’t really mind it if it’s not a big case

[next aurora]

What kind of PC is this and how big is your power supply? 1660S isn't a very demanding card, might need to upgrade your PSU as well for a new GPU.

[high radish]

1660s have similar power usage as 4060 . so if you chose 4060 you probably wont need upgrade power supply . and yes at 1440p you need upgrade gpu first

1660super is 125w , 3060 is 170w , 4060 is 110w

1660s to 4060 doesn't require psu upgrade at all

[azure pond]

Neither of those gpus is properly 1440p capable

[stable knoll]

so 650W, 16gb ddr4,gigabyte B450 M H motherboard

[next aurora]

Ya, you're good. Any reason for sticking with nVidia over AMD?

AMD generally gives more performance for the money except for Ray Tracing. WOuld be a better option

[stable knoll]

so I wouldn’t encounter any problems, such as bottleneck right?

[stable knoll]

not really actually

4060 goes for 280 bucks on amazon

and I was like maybe I could change my gpu

[azure pond]

Ok first

A bottleneck will always be present in any computer

Whether it's cpu, ram, gpu, storage, etc

3500x is an ok cpu, not the best but is acceptable for a mid range gpu

1440p is more gpu heavy than cpu heavy. Neither the 4060 or 3060 should be considered when you're targeting 1440p gaming

Honestly neither should be considered period, unless you need a cheap nvidia card for some workstation task

[azure pond]

This is around 40% better than a 4060 and will run 1440p decently
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387248528833?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Yes your cpu will be a bottleneck, but that just means you'll upgrade cpu next.

[next aurora]

90 day warranty on refurbs, just so the OP knows

[stable knoll]

Yes, I thought about that, but for me, changing the processor is a bit of a challenging process. I tried it before and it was quite a hassle. In my current situation, just changing the graphics card to get average FPS in new games would be sufficient for all my needs.

[stable knoll]

just for gaming and yea 3500x is pretty mid

this one looks alright https://a.co/d/cOBFysi

[next aurora]

If you want new, the RX6750XT give you more performance than the 4060 by ~20% ish.

[azure pond]

It is overpriced. Very.

It performs 0-10% better than the 3060 while costing the same

The 3060 was already poor value

The 4060 is just newer and has less vram

3070 is 30-40% better.

Otherwise a new 6700xt/6750xt/7600

All three smack the 4060 around

[stable knoll]

its very interesting that 4060 and 3060 goes for same price

[next aurora]

$300 will put the 4060 in the dirt. On sale too and a great 1440p card https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-QICK319-Graphics-RX-675XYJFDP/dp/B0B34M1YLW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=6750XT&th=1

[stable knoll]

I’ll check it out thank you for recommendations

[azure pond]

This is also good, but imo still too little for 1440p
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jKqrxr/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-7600-xt-8-gb-video-card-rx7600-8g-f

That's around 10-20% better than the 4060 depending on the game

And this is a $280 6700xt, around 25-35% better, and has more vram than the 7600/4060
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RFGbt6/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-speedster-swft-309-video-card-rx-67xtyjfdv

The 6750xt vintage linked is fine, but it's not much better than a 6700xt

Only a few % difference

[high radish]

Finally SSD prices getting bit better

[pallid geyser]

About time

[mighty pagoda]

yo guys if you find a good ssd deal in canada ping me please thnx

[azure pond]

@normal spear fake seller

[normal spear]

What?

Ive had them saved forever now rip

[normal spear]

I need to get better and not just jump on a deal 😭

Why can they can away with that, anonymity?

[thin bolt]

0 regulations

[normal spear]

Lovely

[marsh sphinx]

how much should I sell my pc parts for if I never installed them into a pc?

this person keeps bothering me saying "you cant sell this as new" but i literally have only ever taken it out of the box to make sure it wasnt broken, the cpu wasnt put in a mobo or anything and he cant drop that

[brittle lagoon]

Usually the categories are Brand new in box, open box, and used, so go by the open box prices

[fair moon]

Yeah it would fall as like new or open box

[marsh sphinx]

he’s giving me this

[brittle lagoon]

You can most likely get more money out of someone else for it, but don't say it's BNIB or anything, just say open box, never used

[marsh sphinx]

exactly what i said

there’s a description and everything about what i did to it

[brittle lagoon]

Then you can ignore them

[balmy lake]

Idk what you’re selling or its values but I wonder about people selling things online, even “brand new,” at anything close to retail (sometimes even more!) because sure, its never been opened or used. Even 100% true, you’re asking me to take all the risk that its not defective. Unless you’re willing to refund and take it back if it doesn’t work or even exchange it, if you have another available, im not buying. Unless you can make the risk worth it. Otherwise, im just going to the store or buying from an online retailer that will jave some kind of exchange/warranty process. I realize the manufacturers have warranties. But, those can be dependent upon having registered the product with a legitimate receipt from a licensed reseller. Even if they do honor the warranty, your dealing with the manufacturer not a retail outlet. How long of a delay is it before you can get it fixed or a replacement and usually if it’s a replacement, its refurbished or similar. So, lets say you’re selling something that retails for $300. Im not paying more than maybe $250 for it, depending.

Just my opinion, not trying to say thats how it is, or should be. Just my thought process when im looking at stuff.

*disclaimer: not including collectables and limited items, 😂

[jolly inlet]

The risk is easy enough to mitigate. Just use PayPal or something that offers buyer protections. If it does turn out to be defective, and the seller is uncooperative, file a claim and you'll get the money back.

If I'm selling something, I'll typically include the original purchase receipt as well so you can claim warranty support later.

Or, I'll offer a warranty on things that I refurbished.

[balmy lake]

Lol, thats why so many don’t use PP, etc. and want zelle or cash-app.

And while I commend you for that, in my experience, thats not most sellers

[jolly inlet]

If they want alternative payment I just ghost them

[brittle lagoon]

good practice is to just go by r/hws rules lol

[jolly inlet]

Also the still rampant obvious scams. "My cousin will pick it up with a certified check in hand" yeah sure. And it's totally not fake.

Pretty much yeah, hws is fairly safe because of how restrictive they are.

[balmy lake]

Example, I always see this guy posting brand new, in box, dewalt tools. And not that im looking tight now, but i’d never buy from him. But, apparently people do because he keeps selling stuff…

[jolly inlet]

Oh well that's an easy one to answer. Amazon does nothing because they make money off the scammers too.

[balmy lake]

Not for ~$30

Oh, no just showing amazon as an alternative price. This guy sells on the Nextdoor app

[jolly inlet]

Oh I see

Obvious scam is obvious, but not everyone has the mindset of watching for them

[balmy lake]

Oh, and i get 10% vet’s discount at HD, so that reduces the difference even more. Lol. But that’s besides the point. No, i think he’s legit as he’s been selling for years, and i’d like to think ND would step in otherwise or that i’d see people talking about it. Im just saying for a $10-$30 discount, i’d rather just buy it from a store.

[jolly inlet]

Not $30 total but a discount of $30. I was a bit confused there I think.

[balmy lake]

Happens to the best of us! 😉

[marsh sphinx]

It was a ryzen 5 5600

they’re usually $120 USD

oh yea, dumb off topic question, any way i can make my internet better

not the connection from my pc to the internet but my actual internet

like routers or stuff like that

[torpid night]

You mean your LAN?

Or your Internet speed? (If this is the case, just upgrade)

[brittle lagoon]

Are you getting speeds under what the plan from your ISP is supposed to get you?

[marsh sphinx]

i’ve only seen the internet be good for connecting to websites

[brittle lagoon]

What is the package you pay for from your ISP speed wise?

And what is the speed you actually get?