tech-deals-discussion

[stoic crest]

it's pretty good tbh

[amber kelp]

Sold out 😭

Just saw the 4060 posted in deals on eBay for 940. How’s that laptop?

[stoic crest]

good build quality and batt life on amd version

has advanced optimus and mux switch

screen is pretty nice too, though it's not very bright

just 300 nits or so

[amber kelp]

Thanks for the inputs

[amber kelp]

These two laptops good for the price?

[stoic crest]

you do save a lot with going with nitro

so hmm

it's tough to choose

[turbid locust]

4070 laptop is a sad chip

I would take the nitro

[stoic crest]

eh i would also say 4080 laptop is sad too

cuz it's a 4070 in a clamshell

if price is right 4070 laptop ain't bad at all

but in this case 3070ti is better choice

[grand orbit]

id get this instead of the 3070ti laptop, https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-15-6-gaming-laptop-144hz-fhd-intel-core-i7-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-512gb-ssd-mecha-grey/6552905.p?skuId=6552905

[amber kelp]

i saw that one was sold out yesterday

just got it

[turbid locust]

4080 laptop is way less sad

4070 mobile is so much slower than the desktop card it's crazy

[stoic crest]

that's expected

since "4070" laptop is essentially 4060ti

the only cards matching desktop counterpart are 4050 and 4060

[azure pond]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4622vs4736vs4795vs4756vs4827/GeForce-RTX-4080-vs-GeForce-RTX-4080-Laptop-GPU-vs-GeForce-RTX-4070-vs-GeForce-RTX-4070-Laptop-GPU-vs-GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti

[cinder kiln]

Wtf

@turbid locust is on to something

I never picked up on this

[fiery zephyr]

Dyno is very smart

too bad he isnt here more often

[azure pond]

4080 laptop is close to 4080 12gb

[cinder kiln]

There are a lot of people who chime in every so often here that are wealthy in info

[fiery zephyr]

yepp

[azure pond]

actually slightly beats

[cinder kiln]

The more the merrier

[fiery zephyr]

Thats not too bad

4080 lappys are

pricey

to say the least

[azure pond]

I've seen them as low as 1500

[fiery zephyr]

oh?

[azure pond]

it was only once or twice though, normally closer to 1800+

[azure pond]

$80 diff for a what, 20% perf difference?

Nvm, much less https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4116vs4123/GeForce-RTX-2070-SUPER-vs-GeForce-RTX-2080-SUPER

[jolly inlet]

It's kinda crazy that people are still trying to sell 1660S for the price of that 2070S. Even crazier is people are buying them.

[azure pond]

Yeah lol, I wish I'd waited a bit longer and gotten one instead of the used 5700xt I bought my partner

Basically the same price for a refurb 2070s now, and between the two I'd rather a 2070s

[jolly inlet]

Eh, the difference between the 2070 and 5700 XT isn't huge at least

[azure pond]

Yeah, I'm all for AMD when a similar price for better perf, but at same price for same perf I'd choose nvidia

[jolly inlet]

True. But at least in this case you didn't miss out on a whole lot.

[azure pond]

I butchered that sentence so bad lmao

Sorry

Yeah true

[trim pier]

holy my internet is so bad

anyways I think I should buy a used 2080ti

idk though

Frick nvm, the pny 2080ti got sold for 250$

[azure pond]

Could likely get a 6700xt used for that much

[trim pier]

I talked to foxy about this 180$ 6700xt in IL. Issue is guy is likely a scammer

Was rude on my alt, and kept making excuse on excuse to not show any partial SN

Plus no static bag, was sitting on styrofoam (power color fighter doesn’t come with any)

[trim pier]

Not joking though it’s all over 250$ for used versions

But I’ve seen 6600xt/6650xt as low as 130$

[cinder kiln]

Dam

Pretty cheap for a serious oc board

[shut lava]

The Asus OC boards are better than the EVGA for memory OC most of the time. The EVGA 790 board might be about equal now, with the latest BIOS.

[cinder kiln]

Yes but also $320

[shut lava]

It depends on if you want to get the most out of the hardware or are just doing it for fun and not to be the most competitive.

[stoic crest]

$320 for that board is still nice

[turbid locust]

Unfortunately the z790 dark isn't great

Z690 dark was pretty good for z690

[marsh sphinx]

Best laptop for school? maybe around 400-500 euros something that will last me a while, has good battery, I don't think I'll play any games on it just programming and preferably not refurbished but if that's recommended then I'll check it out (for Finland)

[pallid geyser]

https://xoticpc.com/products/msi-titan-gt77hx-13vi-042us?

This one

[zenith lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-non-linear-gif-27023528

[marsh sphinx]

Bro 💀

[stoic crest]

you can find laptops with amd cpus

6 cores and above recommended

[marsh sphinx]

Lenovo ideapad 3 is Ryzen 5500u 16gb ram 1tb ssd 600 euros but I don't think I need all of that

[stoic crest]

well for programming having 6 cores is great

is there any cheaper options with less storage?

[marsh sphinx]

I mean there's one with 512 GB SSD and 8 GB storage but it's like 18 euros cheaper

[stoic crest]

hmm

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah true if what I said is a good deal then I could just get that one

[stoic crest]

I don't really know about your market, but that seems good

[marsh sphinx]

Alright thanks

[fair moon]

For that price I'd expect a slightly better cpu but I'm in US so the market might be different

[stoic crest]

With what I looked at, it seems that laptop is probably your best bet

Or you can look for Intel offerings, but at least i5 12th gen

[marsh sphinx]

Laptops in Finland are quite a bit more expensive and that laptop is on a pretty significant sale as well 25%

[fair moon]

Gotcha

Is there anything with a 5600U or 5800U

[stoic crest]

ngl for programming just 5500U does ok enough

[fair moon]

Yeah but if there's a 5600U for close in price it might be worth

[marsh sphinx]

Not that I could find

[marsh sphinx]

There's a 5700U for 719 euros but 8 GB ram and 256 GB SSD so probably not worth it

[stoic crest]

eh yeah no

that's breaking the budget too far

[fair moon]

Yeah you get two more cores but the same amount of cache

Also 8gb ram is gonna hurt

[marsh sphinx]

Would there be anything you would recommend for programming that isn't wildly expensive but out of the budget. I wouldn't buy it but just to know what to look for

[stoic crest]

Intel 12/13th gen equipped laptops might be around

[fair moon]

5500/700 are zen 2 while 5600/800 are zen 3, it's weird

[stoic crest]

just amd being amd

[marsh sphinx]

Would thinkpads with that processor work well?

[stoic crest]

i have zen 3+ despite the name being 7000 series

[stoic crest]

yes

what's the specs and price?

[marsh sphinx]

Of a ThinkPad with that processor here?

[stoic crest]

yeah

or you can give me links to where you're looking into

[marsh sphinx]

Thinkpad E14 gen 4 i7-1255U (16 GB ram and 512 GB ssd) is 1079 but I haven't looked too much into it so there might be better prices elsewhere

[marsh sphinx]

The websites I look at are gigantti.fi, jimms.fi, power.fi and then amazon.de since in my experience it has been the best Amazon for finland but I haven't actually looked at the Swedish one

[stoic crest]

Alright

Well thinkpads are always gonna be expensive anyway

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah

If I do get one in a couple of years is there one you would specifically recommend

[stoic crest]

It depends by then honestly, can't answer now

https://www.amazon.de/A515-45-R5BU-Display-Graphics-Windows-Keyboard/dp/B09Q8Z7XBM

569 euros

5500u 16gb ram and 512gb ssd

https://www.amazon.de/5B6U6ES-Business-Graphics-Windows-Silver/dp/B09N7HLKKY

20 euros less

[marsh sphinx]

Those look good as well

Does the build quality vary between these

[stoic crest]

Not really

They're perhaps about the same

[marsh sphinx]

Alright then these might be better since it's cheaper and I won't need a tb of storage

[stoic crest]

https://www.amazon.de/Display-5-4500U-Graphics-Windows-Keyboard/dp/B08ZVD72N5

There's this aswell

529 euros

4500U is exact same chip as 5500U

nvm 539

[marsh sphinx]

There's no difference between the performance?

[stoic crest]

Nope

Absolutely none

Other than ran I suppose

4500U laptops tends to run slower ram

2666mhz compared to 3000/3200

[marsh sphinx]

So there's little to no difference between this and the Acer aspire 5 it's just cheaper?

[stoic crest]

That hp will be slower

225 G8 should be the same

But not the black one

[marsh sphinx]

Alright

I think I might go with the 225 G8

How long do you estimate it will last me if I'm careful

[marsh sphinx]

Would it be around the same as the ideapad 3 as well?

Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Slim Laptop | 15.6 Inch FHD Display | Ryzen 5 5625U | 16GB RAM | 512GB SSD | AMD Radeon Graphics | Windows 11 Home | Grey | 3 Months Premium Care https://amzn.eu/d/hKYq0xs
The processor is a bit better but it's 40 euros more than the hp so maybe not worth it

[stoic crest]

yeah nah

i would get the up or acer

[marsh sphinx]

Thanks for your help

[marsh sphinx]

There's actually the same one for 550 so same price as the hp 235 G8 same specs but 5625U

[stoic crest]

5625U

That's a nicer cpu indeed

Zen 3

Unlike Zen 2 on 5500U

[marsh sphinx]

If there's no difference in the battery life that seems to be the best

Hp is 41 wh and ideapad is 39 so there's not much difference

[stoic crest]

Ideapad with better cpu might get better batt life

Due to more efficient cpu

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah true

Only worry I have is that the ideapad 3 is plastic and I've heard it bends a lot

That might just be anecdotal though

[stoic crest]

it's fine

all laptops can bend anyway, if you're talking about the screen lol

but they're not permanent bending

just that you can twist them if you really use force

but why would you do that anyway

[fair moon]

You might be thinking 4600U and 5500U

4500 is 6c6t, no SMT

[stoic crest]

4500u is 6c/12t tho

[fair moon]

I meant U my bad

Is notebook check wrong

[stoic crest]

wait lemme check a bit

[fair moon]

Techpowerup also says 6c6t

[stoic crest]

yeah no it lacks smt

that's bad lol

that's essentially ryzen 3

[fair moon]

There's also vega 6 instead of 7 igpu but that's a much smaller difference than no smt

[stoic crest]

ya

[fair moon]

This looks good

[jolly inlet]

I always love pointing people to the b-stock arctic units

I got a 420mm there myself

[high radish]

Yeah but it's hard to fit in cases

[stoic crest]

buy bigger case

ez

[high radish]

Yeah full tower time

[jolly inlet]

tmw you get a full tower and it's still not big enough

[tawdry dragon]

Pretty good laptop deal https://www.ebay.com/itm/275995381734?

Used though

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah that's the one I ended up getting. Thanks for your help

[fair moon]

for the price especially considering the market you're in that's pretty solid

[marsh sphinx]

What's it like in the US? Is it easy to find laptop deals better than that

[fair moon]

I got my ryzen 5825U (8 core 16 thread) laptop for ~550-600 USD

[marsh sphinx]

Damn

What site

[fair moon]

direct from Dell

Other than the cpu the specs are pretty similar to the ideapad

it has a 120hz display which is nice but no keyboard backlight which is not so nice

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah

In the UK as well it's just better than here if you go onto the Lenovo site it's like 450 more euros for a t14 than in the UK

It's probably even better in the US

[fair moon]

Here in the US we save loads on tech and then spend it all on medical bills

[marsh sphinx]

Haha yeah, I've heard that the NHS (UK healthcare which is free) actually spends less money on each patient than the US government does so if they switched to free healthcare they would actually save some money but they would have to fund the healthcare service but even then it's still less

[jolly inlet]

"But that would be communism and we can't have that!"

Is literally an argument people use

[fleet marlin]

Meanwhile I rock no case.

[narrow bronze]

Question what exactly is b-stock is that just stuff that there trying to get rid of or like returns?

[grand orbit]

returns/refurbed

[narrow bronze]

Ah ok

[jolly inlet]

In the case of the liquid freezer models, they had an issue that required replacing a gasket. Arctic very actively recalled all the affected units so they could have the new gasket put in. These B stock ones are likely ones that were pulled off store shelves for the recall. They've all been fixed and come with full warranty.

[narrow bronze]

thats sick

too bad i bought one last month for full price 😭

[jolly inlet]

Ouch. That always sucks.

[light holly]

I still have yet to replace the gasket they sent me

[jolly inlet]

It wasn't a huge deal anyway, just a buildup problem over time

[obtuse sandal]

Hey guys

What do we think of this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BDJYXM2Y?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[kind rover]

get a bstock liquid freezer in #tech-deals

oh the deal oppse uh pls ignore me

but with the bstock coolers its really not a great deal now

[obtuse sandal]

I couldn’t find a 360 radiator

240, 280, 420

Even with shipping fee, it’s still not bad. But the thermalight is cheaper

Question is is it worth it? Better? Better for the price?

[jolly inlet]

We don't have a whole lot of information on that aio but I've heard it's decent for the price

[obtuse sandal]

Do you think the arctic freeze in #tech-deals is a better option?

[jolly inlet]

Yes that's a top tier cooler

The 280 would easily beat the notte 360

[obtuse sandal]

I see. Thank you

[cinder kiln]

It's fabulous

I'd argue that over the arctic b stock due to cold plate inconsistencies

[fair moon]

280 is actually pretty close to a 360

[marsh sphinx]

I’m gonna get around to testing the Frozen Notte 240 here soon on my 13600K

Just unsure how to run a benchmark recording temperatures

[jolly inlet]

There's a few different ways you can go about it

[jolly inlet]

Would you be looking at it compared to another cooler or by itself?

[marsh sphinx]

I really don’t have anything else to base it off if I were going by my own results

So mainly just by itself

[jolly inlet]

Ok so standalone results. What you can do is test what frequency the CPU boosts to under various loads. Single core, dual, triple, etc. and see how close it gets to the rated max boost.

If it hits the rated max in a single core load and maybe 500-600 below with all the p-cores loaded, then you can call the cooler sufficient for that CPU at stock.

It's at that point you can start controlling variables like locking frequency and voltage to see how many Watts of heat the cooler can dissipate before it saturates and throttles.

[azure pond]

Could compare to my clc 280, it's similar to an lf2 280 with the p14s I put on it

Though I still need to do a remount

Also different case, it won't be a perfect comparison but it's something

[marsh sphinx]

I’ve never done any sort of benchmarking in my life

[azure pond]

I do have an fc140 I could put on and compare that possibly

[jolly inlet]

It wouldn't be a true like for like comparison even if it's the same model CPU you can call it a close enough comparison

[azure pond]

Yeah, just to give us a general idea of where the frozen notte stands

[jolly inlet]

Then you can run the time spy demo and look at the CPU temps during the final test, it does multiple different loads automatically. If it stays under 90 during that test I'd call it good enough.

[marsh sphinx]

Alright

Just gotta wait for my DDR5 to come

[trim pier]

I could bench my 13600k with a pa120se

[azure pond]

Ooh that'd be a good comparison

Since pa120se is as good as a lot of 240mm aios

[trim pier]

^

issue is, no clue how to bench

as well as should I leave my glass panel off?

considering alot of benches with AIO's are usually out of the case

[fleet marlin]

Cinebench is a decent quick "test" to run even if a bit more realistic than prime95 or such. 12700k is a lil diff, but I'll soon check it w/ FC140 or similar.

[light holly]

Ime, when benching in a good case, I see better thermals with the panel on because the airflow through the case is designed with that on. Allows efficient movement of air in/through/out of the case. With the panel off, the air just kinda does whatever. Now.. you could have the panel off and just have a box fan pointing right into it and probably see benefit.

[azure pond]

This isn't really a good sale, considering pa120 se is basically same price, or a different dual tower cooler from thermalright, but for a blackout build this would look so sick and is cheapest sleek black cooler afaik
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6FCCFG7

[fair moon]

Only 4 heatpipes and a pretty small heatsink

Fine if you want it for the looks I guess

[grand orbit]

no need, you can do a few, id do prime95 small fft and check the clock speeds on all cores with hwinfo64, theres also 3d mark timespy cpu score would be the easiest, could do single core cinebench if you wanted to to

[trim pier]

Plus it depends on what @marsh sphinx does too so

Also istg didn’t you get ddr4 and a 12600k or something

[azure pond]

He was debating between different options for a while

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah ultimately I settled on paying a bit more for current gen

My Z790 is still at my brother's place and gonna buy the 13600K tomorrow

Still deciding what DDR5 kit to get

[azure pond]

You gonna ram tune?

This gauranteed A die is still in stock https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qk9wrH/teamgroup-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-ctccd532g5600hc46dc01 unless I got the wrong kit

[grand orbit]

afaik thats the right one

[azure pond]

If not tuning I'd say this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XsqPxr/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-f5-6000j3636f16gx2-rs5k

Or could spend a bit more for 6000c32/c30 or 6400c32

[trim pier]

Tbh during Black Friday I might pick up the cheapest ddr5 board and kit

[azure pond]

Eh, with 13600k/6650xt unless you do cpu focused workloads, I would upgrade gpu first for sure

Ddr5 would be a 10% increase in cpu perf, whereas that $150-200 could be put towards a gpu upgrade that would affect you much more (you likely won't even notice the difference between ddr4 and ddr5 with a 6650xt in gaming)

[tawdry dragon]

What are the chances that this is real.

[jolly inlet]

Reverse image search the picture

I feel like I've seen it before

[tawdry dragon]

No matches

[jolly inlet]

What did you use? tineye?

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah

[jolly inlet]

Hmm, so it might be real but broken or something

[tawdry dragon]

There's no description, so I'm not sure

[marsh sphinx]

Any blackout ones or RGB?

[azure pond]

This is blackout, no?

[cinder kiln]

Pls no not the samsung chips

[marsh sphinx]

Hmmm, I suppose so just the red bits showing kinda pushes me away from it

[forest prairie]

assume the worst

[fair moon]

I'd honestly reccomend going for a quest 2 instead

They can be had for $100-120 used I think

I had a rift S and the 'screen door' effect was really bad

Q2 does have image compression when using Link with a PC but in my experience it's less immersion breaking than the Rift S was for me

[tawdry dragon]

Please send me the link

I couldn't find a decent one for less than $200

[azure pond]

If you're ram tuning, just grab whatever 5600c32 kit you like

If not, 6000/6400c36/c32/c30

Though 5600c32 is still fine if you're not ram tuning

[marsh sphinx]

I'm probably just gonna be gaming and if I eventually want to tune I'll grab one of those kits later down the road

[azure pond]

6000c38 fine too

Wouldn't go for 5600c36 or 6000c40 imo, just because of better kits for same pricing

there's this for rgb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tYXV3C/geil-orion-v-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl38-memory-gvsg532gb6000c38adc

or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01

[cinder kiln]

Nooooooooo

Stahp

[fiery zephyr]

Real

[jolly inlet]

They're fine for Ryzen tho

[cinder kiln]

Pls no

It's like

Choosing between samsung B and C

Think if Zen 5 drops and all cpu's can do 8000+ comfortably, you've just bottled the ram for any down the line possibility

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flbd532g5600hc32dc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LTcG3C/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-ff3d532g5600hc32dc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qk9wrH/teamgroup-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-ctccd532g5600hc46dc01

Pick from any of the 4

[marsh sphinx]

For Intel?

[cinder kiln]

For both

[marsh sphinx]

Hm alright

[cinder kiln]

It's like, spending 3 dollars more for the same quality psu with 100 more watts

It's worth it when these kits are amongst the cheapest

[marsh sphinx]

5600CL32 or 6000CL30?

[cinder kiln]

Either or

What matters is it's confirmed hynix

Both can do 6000 cl30

Or later on 7000, 8000+

Meanwhile samsung, micron struggle over 6000

[marsh sphinx]

Not too sure about that link in #tech-deals

[silent rampart]

yeah

no

its real

just looked on twitter

[jolly inlet]

Too bad none of those have expo profiles for people that don't want to mess with stuff in bios

[silent rampart]

not sure about that link tho

you can just go to walmart.com

[jolly inlet]

We specifically don't allow link shorteners

Since they can lead literally anywhere and track you

[cinder kiln]

You can still use the xmp

[jolly inlet]

You'd probably need to tweak at least one voltage to get it to work though

[cinder kiln]

I mean 5600 cl32 not that hard to run

And 6000 cl30 likely to run on most boards

[marsh sphinx]

Only EXPO or XMP too?

[jolly inlet]

They usually have both if they have expo

[marsh sphinx]

Sooo

Is it possible the stock timings are gonna be bad?

[jolly inlet]

On what kit

[pallid geyser]

omg the boys are in CoD now lol

[jolly inlet]

Didn't that end already

Or were they just teasing the next season

Which is super weird with like nicki manaj or something

[pallid geyser]

yeah idk i just opened up cod for the first time in a while and saw it

theres also a cat bundle lol

[cinder kiln]

I mean, xmp or expo are generally pretty bad to begin with, wide net for wide range of stability

[marsh sphinx]

Alright well let me put it like this

I'm stupid

So either I learn how to turn or continue being stupid

[cinder kiln]

I'm not saying ur stupid

My biggest go to quote lately is no one writes a manual on this stuff

Like Mozart wasn't born out of the womb writing his greatest work

But you can take the hynix kits, dial whatever expo you can reasonably expect on either platform and you should be able to get it to run

Or xmp

But even then, 5600 cl32 isn't bad at all

[marsh sphinx]

No, but through personal experience and multiple fried PC parts I can confirm that

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah, but isn't it defaulted to a slower speed?

[cinder kiln]

All ram defaults to jedec when you put it in

You just need to enable xmp/expo or enter those same numbers manually

It's easy enough to do

[marsh sphinx]

I’m gonna act like an old person and say

You’re a magician

[tawdry dragon]

https://a.co/d/cYR4qmD not the best deal, but decent

[azure pond]

Imo not really a deal

Similar ssds are $40-45 I believe, and similar/better ram kits are $100/sub $100

[cinder kiln]

BUY THAT LAPTOP

RECC OF THE WEEK

[trim pier]

Wdym

[high radish]

I Bought that laptop . it arrived few days ago . build quality looks alright not the best . performance is pretty much better than my old i5 and 3060 laptop .

if you not caring about battery life you can get this one as well

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-ssd-mecha-grey/6535503.p

[pallid geyser]

Oh nice

[high radish]

12700h I think have similar performance but power hungry

[azure pond]

12700h is actually better

decent bit

[high radish]

hmm actually this looks like worth to share

[pallid geyser]

Do it

[cinder kiln]

Eh I'd still take the lenovo

And I like the tuf lineup

Battery life just such a huge plus for a laptop

[azure pond]

battery life is definitely a lot better on the first, and 4060 to 4070 is not much for mobile

[cinder kiln]

Ya that too, 4070m is just the ugly duckling in 40 series mobile

Like 7% faster

Over 4060m

Then 4080m is way above both

Ofc the lenovo might have a lower tdp chip but even still, 7840 is great

[high radish]

yeah some people don't need battery life tho . and tuf have 1tb ssd . I know swapping ssd isn't hard but some people don't want to bother

[azure pond]

wait i got confused, i was looking at a diff laptop and thought it was 1260p in the one i posted

ye 7840hs is better

[cinder kiln]

Idk, it's a laptop, battery life should be first place imo

Otherwise you may as well get a desktop lol

[high radish]

I still would pick lenovo couse battery life

[cinder kiln]

Ya

[high radish]

some people carrying laptop around places and keeping it on charge so

[cinder kiln]

Yea but you want the option even still

[high radish]

like hotels when you travel or office to home

[cinder kiln]

If they both had the 7840 instead? I'd 100% take the tuf

After being on Ryzen mobile it's hard for me to go back

[high radish]

I just jumped to ryzen mobile lol my old laptop had i5 12th gen something lol

[cinder kiln]

Temps are just no longer at the forefront of my brain I love it 💀

No fiddling around, it just works

Change mux? Flick the switch off it goes

Running 100%? It's ok not overheating

[high radish]

I working on my small projects when I'm outside so I need battery life . I only using it outside so

[cinder kiln]

It really strikes a note with the enthusiast in me cos everything is taken care of* lol

There's a very good reason me and Foxy love the TUF, it's just a no brainer laptop

[wide onyx]

laughs in i7 4th gen

[stoic crest]

i love muh tuf

it gud

[pallid geyser]

670p is back to $64.99 on Newegg btw

(2TB)

[fiery zephyr]

I LOVE HASWELL

[forest prairie]

HASWELL OO RAH

[fiery zephyr]

LGA 1150 IS THE BEST PLATFORM

[tiny dirge]

saw this on marketplace, listed less than 24 hours ago, and is about an hour drive from me. current card is a 6700 XT.

should I look into it?

[grand orbit]

personally i wouldnt bother, kinda small upgrade relatively

also the pic in the PC is a completely different card

[tiny dirge]

it said they upgraded to the card currently in the PC

A 4080

[grand orbit]

still stupid pic to put there since its not the one lol

[tiny dirge]

350 just felt very cheap so thats why it caught my eye

[grand orbit]

not really

theyve been retailing for like 500 for at least 6 months

personally id aim for a 6900xt/6950xt if you where to upgrade, but id wait til the 7800xt releases too

[tiny dirge]

fair enough

i just wanna get rid of my 6700 XT ive had nothing but driver issues with it so far

[grand orbit]

are you the one talking to faclie about that before?

[tiny dirge]

Mhm

I’ve talked with like 3 different people here

I’ve done like everything possible to fix it

[grand orbit]

ah i see so you wanna get rid of it, and its out of warranty right?

[tiny dirge]

I’ve had it for like a month and a half

Asrock rma never answered me

Otherwise I wouldn’t be looking for another upgrade rn

[grand orbit]

contacted the seller for a replacement?

[tiny dirge]

I contacted asrock rma but it was from newegg

[grand orbit]

Try contact newegg for a replacement then btw

[fleet marlin]

I'm trying not to get that rm850x (shift), although wonder if Btier 650 is still fine if I went to a 12700K for just gaming.

[marsh sphinx]

RM850x SHIFT?

How's that different from a normal RM850x?

[azure pond]

atx 3.0

[marsh sphinx]

Uhhhhh

There'x ATX generations now?

[fleet marlin]

Pcie 5 also & the main thing is cables on the backside instead of opposite the switch & wall cord -- atx is what Intel sort of made. We've been on 2.42 or w/e for a while. Atx3 is separate from "pcie5" connector, although I think this psu just gets an adapter cable.

[marsh sphinx]

Weird

OOOOOH

I SEE NOW

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[verbal kraken]

Anyone know of any good deals on a 34" 1440p ultra wide monitors? Hopefully around $280.

[high radish]

Hmm msi had one for exactly that price I think

Not good refresh rate but anyways

https://www.newegg.com/account/referral/U7J7N8?v=pdp-_-USA-_-24-475-221-_--_-US230801-_-0-_-N82E16824475221-_-&n=f3f22d2a33da3e38970522e8a6bc4dfe

Or there's one for 300$ that have 144hz https://a.co/d/ezuAEiI

[verbal kraken]

Appreciate it!

[stoic crest]

aopen is acer btw

just their sub brand

[daring depot]

I no longer like Acer stuff, but their monitors are pretty decently priced

[tiny dirge]

it says its past return

[grand orbit]

Maybe contact support since it's not working correctly rather than a change of mind

[tiny dirge]

as in newegg support?

[tiny dirge]

.

[grand orbit]

Ye

[tiny dirge]

newegg can't do anything can they

it is an asrock product

[grand orbit]

Might be able to get you a replacement

[tiny dirge]

think it'd be worth trying to get that 6800 XT on marketplace

and returning my 6700 XT

[trim pier]

Is the PG velocity better than the Pro RS? (Asrock mobos)

Pg only goes up to z690 but has practically the same amount of things as the Pro just being 20$ cheaper

[high radish]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162025 talking about this one? Hmm it's not bad . I got one with 12900k bundle from newegg but still didn't buold it

[trim pier]

Bingo

Also just build it already

[high radish]

[trim pier]

Pretty good deal ngl

[trim pier]

How the hell no tax and no shipping cost 😭

[high radish]

Looking at specs and io it looks like decent mobo . Also pretty design

[trim pier]

Either you got tax exempt, aren’t on the checkout process, or you live in the luckiest country/state

[high radish]

Delaware gang we don't have sales tax

[trim pier]

fricking Delaware

[tiny heron]

I miss living in Delaware

But only for that reason

[trim pier]

Minnesota doesn’t have that high of sales tax but

7.3% is still a lot of damage

[high radish]

I love Delaware no sales tax , lots of businesses around which is mostly cargo companies, and have good green nature

[trim pier]

War

Go to build chat real quick

and give me your opinion

[jolly inlet]

laughs in 9.75% sales tax

and then cries

[fleet marlin]

I'm itching to try the 12700K. Gonna have 2 caseless builds on my desk for a bit. 😂 cooler & ram arrives today. FC140 & the plain Team Expert 6000c30 seemed like a safe bet.

[high radish]

Iol newegg refunded my 12700k + z690 force order and actually shipped it

Free 12700k + msi Z690 force

[grand orbit]

laughs in free healthcare then cries in 23%

[jolly inlet]

They'll probably ask you to return it

[light holly]

maybe

[high radish]

Let's see

[tawdry dragon]

cries in 10% sales tax

[light holly]

Laughs in free health-care and 6.5% sales tax

[grand orbit]

Okay well you are in a specific situation

[pulsar fable]

cries in private healthcare

Wait your sales tax is 10%?! I thought Massachusetts was bad at 6.25%

[trim pier]

cries in free food for only k-6th and untaxed clothes 7.3% is higher than Massachusetts?

Damn

[pulsar fable]

Wait you got free k-6th food?!

Wow*

[trim pier]

K-8th actually

They just passed though

High schoolers still have to pay

[pulsar fable]

We had to pay for meals from the get go

And by we I mean my parents

[lilac prawn]

You didn't count

You weren't conscious yet

[tiny heron]

Lowest I've seen this card go 👀

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a380-a380-cli-6g/p/N82E16814930076?Item=N82E16814930076

[jolly inlet]

I'd rather get a used 1070 for less than that

I'd get way more for my money

Granted I wouldn't get AV1 that way but I've gone this long without it

[fiery zephyr]

Yeah same tbh

My strix 1070ti was the same price and still does great at 1080p

[jolly inlet]

For the memes https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-Intel-Arc-A380/3609vsm1795939

[fiery zephyr]

fal ur better than this

[jolly inlet]

I know it's just a funny haha

[fiery zephyr]

lmaooo

[jolly inlet]

I mean the A380 has a sample size of 353, that's hardly reliable

But it's still fun to see the 1070 win by 140%

I've been considering getting a 1070/ti for my plex server, it should do 4k transcode fairly well

[grand orbit]

I'm boutta add ubm to the filter i stg

[jolly inlet]

What part of "for the memes" do people not get

[marsh sphinx]

DID YOU SAY BUY A770?!

ALLLLLL INTEL BUILD BABY

LETS GO

13600K AND A770 FOR THE WIN

[fiery zephyr]

Go to sleep slov

[grand orbit]

Too much ptsd

[forest prairie]

Ackshually AMD is bad and Intel is good, UBM is the best benchmarking software ☝️🤓

[turbid locust]

I actually have tested 1070 ti vs A380

Results aren't pretty

That being said the A380 is also a 43w card

[grand orbit]

Ouch

[umbral horizon]

i wouldnt mind using an intel card but the only ones that seem worth it are the a770 12gb limited

[stoic crest]

there's still bifrost a770

[umbral horizon]

oh snap 16gb

[stoic crest]

also i think you meant 16 ya

[umbral horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-get-me-one-of-those-eric-malinky-danny-jacobs-pinky-malinky-i-need-one-gif-18259207

[trim pier]

Intel Better drivers when 💀💀

also aren’t they like dropping out of the gpu market? Or are they still making their next lineup

[stoic crest]

they are not stopping

any rumors of that note are false

they're just facing delay

[trim pier]

[stoic crest]

next arc is pushed back to 2024

probs q4

[trim pier]

I could imagine them trying to make a good ass graphics card, and it proceeds to have same lvls of performance as the a770

[trim pier]

Yikes

[grand orbit]

Honestly the a750 is the best intel card, pretty close to a770 for a lot less money

[keen marsh]

nah intel UHD 630 is goated

[tawdry dragon]

Deal? https://a.co/d/d5DIy40

[stoic crest]

nah

[pallid geyser]

Blah

[amber kelp]

Which ones a better deal if the 4060 one is priced at 899?

[daring depot]

Gotta see for yourself

Check their battery life and other hidden specs from reviews if needed

[trim pier]

2nd should be better

But watch the video

[amber kelp]

Well

[trim pier]

And tell me if it’s true

If it is

[amber kelp]

I have a desktop just need something to bring to school

[trim pier]

Ok ok good

Cause I make fun of people who bring gaming laptops to school

[amber kelp]

I have the first one rn but if the second one is better I’m gonna return and buy that one

[trim pier]

I’ll save you

[daring depot]

Oi, I did that and it worked fine

[trim pier]

No i make fun of them

[amber kelp]

Schools far from home so kinda a hassle to bring to school

[daring depot]

Except for the loud boot up and fan

[trim pier]

Just buy a 400$ laptop

[daring depot]

Also yeah you don't really need a gaming laptop

Something lighter is gonna save your back

[trim pier]

Cause if it’s mainly for like browsing, school work and probably like terraria or minecraft then I can certainly find you one

^

And you don’t wanna bring a case for it

Like I mean the 4 inch thick cases to protect your 1000$ laptop

[amber kelp]

I want a decent pc to run apex

[trim pier]

That’s so fragile that it’s practically irreplaceable if it breaks

[trim pier]

Does your school have good wifi to play apex on though?

Also apex mobile exists

[amber kelp]

Off campus so good WiFi

[amber kelp]

Bro this is a joke

[trim pier]

Ik ik

It’s horrible ngl

[trim pier]

Best Buy? Micro centers? Fine buying from newegg?

[amber kelp]

Anywhere is fine

Thanks for the help

[trim pier]

Just wanna know if there’s a microcenter near

Np

[amber kelp]

Yea there is

[trim pier]

Alright

Which one btw? For availability

Ik so many questions

[amber kelp]

Yonkers ny

Or westbury ny

hows a mini gaming desktop? are they worth it for the price?

[trim pier]

Depends

Are you keeping it at home?

Also we talking like Itx mini? Micro atx?

[amber kelp]

Gonna bring the mini one to school

Probably itx mini

[trim pier]

Oh ya no

I’ve been in this convo before here so 😭

1. You’ll likely need to pack the inside with something so the parts don’t shift.
2. You’ll need a outlet to sit near.
3. You need to invest in a portable screen which isn’t that bad but likely strict to 1080p unless you’re fine with it.

And depending on which itx build you get, you’ll probably have to make it pretty enough to make it NOT look like a bomb.

[amber kelp]

Might just do laptop

What’s the price range of a decent desktop? Like a 4070 that is aesthetically good

[trim pier]

We talking 1440p? 1080p?

Price range too?

[amber kelp]

1440

Price range nothing more than 2k if possible

Best if around 1500 but idk if that’s possible

[trim pier]

Size preference? Only asking cause of earlier

[amber kelp]

regular size. im just gonna build another laptop and bring my 3070 one to school

i have two monitors already so could just use on of those. just need to build another gaming desktop

[azure pond]

do you want rgb?

[amber kelp]

yea. aesthetics is important 🙂

[azure pond]

and white or black, or a mix of both

asthetics can be different per person, some like rgb some hate it, which is why I asked

[amber kelp]

white. got a black one rn

[azure pond]

and do you need wifi, or are you using ethernet?

[amber kelp]

yes rgb

yea wifi for the motherboard

[azure pond]

ok one minute

[amber kelp]

ok thanks

[azure pond]

For $1770, all white including gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hv9yfy

$1650 with black gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLmQVW

from there, you can change gpu as you want

and depending on what gpu you choose, can get this psu instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V7t9TW/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-snow-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagx-w

[trim pier]

I had this 😭

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3GZGfy

[azure pond]

Can also do 7900xtx 5600 in budget, cpu will definitely be a bottleneck at 1440p, and that's with a black gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9HmQVW

[trim pier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ws33Fs fixed

[trim pier]

He lives near an mc, 5600x3:?

[azure pond]

ooh yes, 5600x3d bundle from your local microcenter would be great

[trim pier]

Cheaper, same price

[azure pond]

would still be a bit of a bottleneck, but that's fine. Impossible to avoid a bottleneck in a system

[trim pier]

^

[amber kelp]

whats a bottleneck?

[azure pond]

where one component limits another, but it's impossible for there not to be one. Impossible as in completely non doable, not as in hard

in every single system that exists there's a bottleneck

[trim pier]

It just depends on age + compatibility of the part

If I’m correct

[azure pond]

moreso just performance

[trim pier]

Cause me with a 13600k and probably a 6900xt on a ddr4 will certainly cost me performance

[azure pond]

age doesn't really matter

13600k with a 6900xt, the gpu will be the bottleneck

[trim pier]

1660 super with a 13900k

Nono, rx 580

[amber kelp]

should i be getting a liquid cooler or a cpu would be enough?

[azure pond]

i mean, stock cooler on a 7600 or 5600 is fine

could also go 214xt, $20 and will still be fine

liquid cooling is not needed for either of those cpus, but if you want it go thermalright frozen notte 240 or 360

dirt cheap and great cooler

[trim pier]

If you do go with my list (which tbh it’s only good if you’re trying to go cheaper on high end) then you’ll need a cooler

[amber kelp]

which list is good if im not trying to cheap out?

im just gonna build an insane pc with 4070

[trim pier]

No

Don’t

[azure pond]

4070 is worse than a 6950xt

[trim pier]

4070 sucks for price

[azure pond]

and costs the same

[trim pier]

Imo if you wanna go newer gen without going crazy on each component

7900xt

[azure pond]

7900xt isn't much better than 6950xt and costs a lot more

not worth

[trim pier]

Ig

[amber kelp]

4080 expensive?

[trim pier]

1000$

[amber kelp]

or 7900xtx?

[trim pier]

That’s half your budget right there

[azure pond]

4080 is worse than xtx and costs more

[trim pier]

7900xtx is better

[azure pond]

i would only go nvidia if buying used, or 4090

[amber kelp]

how much is 4090,

[jolly inlet]

I've seen XTX for as low as $850, and it beats the 4080 in everything but ray tracing (which sucks anyway in general)

[trim pier]

I’ve seen it 800$ at microcenter i beliece

But that’s after coupon

And taxes ofc

[azure pond]

$1500 and not worth it for 99% of people

[amber kelp]

ok lol

[jolly inlet]

Eh that's microcenter, they do some kind of voodoo magic to get low prices

[azure pond]

youre just gaming, right?

[amber kelp]

ill go with one of the 7900xtx build then

yea

[azure pond]

not using blender or anything like that?

[amber kelp]

nope

[jolly inlet]

Only go 4090 in a "no limits" build with a 4k 120Hz+ monitor or for actual work

[trim pier]

@azure pond you should give him the 7700x mc deal

[trim pier]

Or if you’re markiplier and want two of them

[jolly inlet]

I'd call his a no limits, ridiculous for the status build

[trim pier]

I saw his 4090s struggle on fnaf ruins

With ray trace on

[jolly inlet]

Well that's just a badly optimized game, it's not the 4090's fault

I bet if you looked at the "gpu busy" graph it would be very telling

[amber kelp]

can i ask whats the 7700x mc deal?

[jolly inlet]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006269/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-msi-b650-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

In store only, I've seen people walk out with that for cheaper than advertised because of things like new customer coupons.

[amber kelp]

thanks

[trim pier]

25$ off cpu coupon, 25$ off anything If you post a build to their website, uhhh

[jolly inlet]

Like I said, they basically use voodoo magic. Buy a CPU and memory, get a free $200 motherboard.

[trim pier]

Ik there’s more but they hide them like a B

^

I bought a 12600k and got a free mobo for 300$, month later i upgraded to the 13600k for a cent

[azure pond]

It is 4x16 and z690, so probably won't run at a high speed. If it's got a decent die or xmp could take two of the sticks out

[hard creek]

@azure pond At just a glance, how hard do you think it would it be to build an all-new Equivalent for the same price? 12900kf 3080 ti 64gb ddr5 2tb ssd $1250 refurb, from pictures I think it has a850gf for psu https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-aegis-rs-12tf-252us-gaming-desktop-7

[grand orbit]

what would be the use? because if gaming you could do better cpu single core for cheaper, and 32gb ddr5 would be better

[hard creek]

Ooh, great question; Let’s use maxed-everything 4k120hz Cyberpunk as our example for this case

[fiery zephyr]

Well

Uhh

Hmm

[hard creek]

Not that the referb in question could probably do that though

[grand orbit]

LOL that requires bare minimum a 4080/7900xtx

[hard creek]

How about a baseline, then: Do you think it’s possible to build an all-new equivalent for $1,250?; With Goal of Maximizing frames in Extremely intense games

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7QxYN

[grand orbit]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4cjcH

[fiery zephyr]

LOL

[azure pond]

Hehehe pato

Beat you by a second

[fiery zephyr]

Gotta be faster than that

[hard creek]

HAHA

[azure pond]

That's a nice price on the ram pato has

I'd go for that

And the 670p

Mobo either or, patos is better but doesn't have wifi

[hard creek]

Damn these builds are beautiful

[grand orbit]

yeah

[hard creek]

What if we did Intel + NVIDIA only; Impossible?

[grand orbit]

AHAHAHAH

STUPID IDEA

[hard creek]

For the sake of the question, it’s unfortunate we still have people not taking AMD seriously

[hard creek]

What say you, @azure pond ?

[azure pond]

Pato I stole your list for #cases-psu-and-cooling

Wait

I'm so tired

I meant tech deals

[grand orbit]

okay lol

[azure pond]

I can make you one, but it'll definitely be worse

[grand orbit]

all good

[hard creek]

Let’s head to #building-and-recc-chat

[azure pond]

Worse cpu and gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9YvhqR

[cinder kiln]

Fabulous deal. I'd buy that and swap the cooler to something that could run the spec

That's it, the rest would check out as plenty good enough

[azure pond]

If gaming, it's a 240mm aio I think, probably the msi core whatever it is v2, which is decent, which should be fine for single core loads

[cinder kiln]

It looks like the clogging one

But idk. A notte is what $70?

I'd still do it lol

[keen marsh]

Getting ready for my vacation coming up

[cloud hornet]

inb4 180GB day -1 patch

[molten halo]

[forest prairie]

116gb of empty space environments

[keen marsh]

Would be sadge

[forest prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/space-doogo-space-cute-doge-gif-20879537

[keen marsh]

Thats not how the procedural generation works.

[cloud hornet]

procedural generation can indeed generate void

[keen marsh]

Also I just realized this is #tech-deals-discussion and not #general-chat

[forest prairie]

this is #general-chat

[keen marsh]

Its not intended to so that'd be odd in the end of it.

Quick, change the name to #New-Better-General-Chat

[opal flume]

Space is a void

Therefore

Win

[cloud hornet]

Bad jokes aside, I believe the main point was "day 1 NMS equivalent"

[trim pier]

how good is starfield?

[keen marsh]

initial Reactions are good so far.

[trim pier]

I feel like it'd remind me of cowboy bebop

[keen marsh]

most people are commending them on the actual lack of bugs

[opal flume]

...Did Bethesda promise the world? I didn't pay attention to anything about it besides that first trailer they did

[keen marsh]

which is surprising given its bugthesda

[forest prairie]

dows

[opal flume]

I now own a copy due to buying a 6950xt and know nothing about the game

[trim pier]

anyone wanna answer my question in #building-and-recc-chat btw 👉 👈

[cloud hornet]

I literally know nothing about it other then it should contain a field of stars

[opal flume]

Besides space

[forest prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-gif-24068595

[opal flume]

Oh and that one picture that reminded me of Diamond City tower thingy

[keen marsh]

Space. 1000 planets. roughly 10% have life as in native flora/fauna. The rest will have procedurally generated caves, mines, forts, habitations etc that could have hostile or friendly humans.

The ship building is modular, space flight is a bit simple compared to SC. Could also skip building ships and just steal someone elses.

The procedural generation should provide somewhat new experiences every time on those 90% "empty" planets. But those planets could also be used by modders for their own content.

What am I gonna do, I dunno. But I do know there are laser swords. So Imma build my own Jedi/sith Empire

[opal flume]

I will follow my Fallout 4 instincts and make fleets of cube ships made out of junky looking wood

[stoic crest]

Sounds like no man's land

[keen marsh]

No Mans Skyrim

RDR2 but in space

[stoic crest]

Yeah lmao

[pallid geyser]

My best guess is that it’ll be a heavy mediocre

Hopefully not another cyberpunk though

[keen marsh]

Nah people are enjoying it so far.

The reviewers who got early access the biggest complaint was that weirdo talking about the start screen

[pallid geyser]

Guess we’ll see in a couple weeks

Imagine they delay the game to make a new start screen

[keen marsh]

Look at this weirdo

[stoic crest]

lmao

[keen marsh]

The Start Screen is literally fine. 🥲

[stoic crest]

why does this guy care about start screen so much

[keen marsh]

He's a weirdo who likes being in the spotlight

[stoic crest]

it's just a start screen

nothing fancy is needed

[pallid geyser]

You’re on the start screen for a total of 0.005 seconds to click start

[keen marsh]

He was real quiet on this one last year lol

[stoic crest]

lol

how else are start screens supposed to look anyway

gotta make it simple and comprehensive

[keen marsh]

All critically acclaimed games right here that are fantastic^

[stoic crest]

they look the damn same

just different placements

[pallid geyser]

Should’ve been like super Mario 64 smh

[keen marsh]

Shoulda been like one of those old Dreamworks movies with all the funny animations and stuff

[forest prairie]

I mean they all basically follow the formula of

cool picture, dead simple ui

which is fine

but I love uniquely designed and/or animated main menus

[stoic crest]

i do like animated main menus too

but it's not a requirement to enjoy the game for me anyway

[forest prairie]

literally unplayable

[daring depot]

Y'know what start screen Skyrim had? The word Skyrim and a symbol.

[trim pier]

Y’all forgetting about minecraft and terraria 🗣️

[civic sun]

terraria was best menu screen

I would just play with the sun and moon all day

[forest prairie]

What's terraria

[cinder kiln]

Terrain but said by weirdos

[keen marsh]

You don't know Terarria?

[opal flume]

Obviously we should go back to the era in which cover art was painted imagery that didn't accurately represent the product, except this time with main menus. Spend half the budget designing the main menu, that is all that matters

[daring depot]

...sure

Minecraft's fun guys

[umbral horizon]

Is there an example of a start screen that isn't the standard "iconic image+menu"

Cuz I can't think of a single one that had some kind of unique start menu

Interesting transitions into the game maybe but

[radiant leaf]

what is a good price for desk

[grand orbit]

Depends on the quality and size of the desk

[radiant leaf]

trying to fit a 29 inch monitore on it but I’m on budget

[grand orbit]

i wouldnt get anything cheaper than a ~100$ desk new anyway

[radiant leaf]

ok

[light holly]

Go to your local repurpose store if you have one and look for a good sturdy desk. You can expect to pay sub $50. If you don't have one, check thrift stores to see if they have any sturdy ones.

[radiant leaf]

ok

[silver remnant]

Anyone have any good price drop trackers like how PCpartpicker used to have

shame they discontinued that feature

[fair moon]

https://camelcamelcamel.com

Unfortunately I don't think it has links other than Amazon

[fleet marlin]

Uh, says $428 for me WarPig

[high radish]

Oh my typo sry

[azure pond]

@polar cliff

[polar cliff]

Yeah

[azure pond]

tech deals

it's not white tho

[shut lava]

Easy fix! https://www.amazon.com/Krylon-K05545007-COLORmaxx-Spray-Aerosol/dp/B07LFWZ84M

[high radish]

I'm not sure if getting 6950xt is wise choice anymore it is better than 4070 but 350w power draw is insane

[stoic crest]

so does getting 4090 ngl

big perf, big power

but if i say 4090 it'd be normal

logic™

[high radish]

Because 4090 is more powerful

4070 used only 200w but have similar performance and have some features but F for 12gb vram

Idk hard choice lol

https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/?compute_type=OPTIX&compute_type=CUDA&compute_type=HIP&compute_type=METAL&compute_type=ONEAPI&group_by=device_name&blender_version=3.6.0

for people who got AMD gpu and using blender

[azure pond]

it is very well known how bad AMD is with blender

and to not get one if you're doing blender

[high radish]

Yeah I just wonder why . blender is more vram hungry so how amd falling behind with its huge vrams

[fleet marlin]

Could PL 4090 to 70-80% for a sub-300w avg loading and lose hardly any performance.

[azure pond]

Could do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gYQXC6
or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QDPWXk first one is ddr4 32gb with a diff mobo for cheaper, and second is 32gb ddr5 with a diff mobo for a bit more

if cpu ocing though, that bundle is good

[trim pier]

BRUHHHH

I MISSED THE 6950xy

UGHHHH

I could of financed it too 😭

[stoic crest]

see when i mention 4090 and it consuming a lot of power is fine

i get that it's faster and all but wasn't 3090 also hungry kek

[trim pier]

btw Foxy

that guy with the 6900xt asus up'd his price to 550

from 460

[stoic crest]

that's oof

like matches price of new cards

new 6950xt

[trim pier]

yup

I told him he said "alright"

[trim pier]

Could of financed the 6950xt at 529.99 for 49$ a month

in a 12 month period

but if I paid 60, could of boosted by dad's credit score 😎

[grand orbit]

@hard creek idk if it's out of stock or amazon being weird but only showing option as 630 or something for me

[opal flume]

Camelcamelcamel doesn't even show it

[frosty gate]

Finding a job in this market makes me contemplate suicide daily

[silent rampart]

No

[hard creek]

Oh no! Is it here now?

[stoic crest]

probably pato's amazon was showing something different

he's not in the us so

[hard creek]

Oh shoot, where is he?

[cinder kiln]

Uk

[hard creek]

Ah

That’s too bad, I wish I could get him that deal

[cinder kiln]

He may not have changed to a us postcode

Meh, he can't afford it

[stoic crest]

he wasn't shoppin for gpus anyway lol

just wondering if it was oos

[cinder kiln]

@grand orbit ur poor btw

[hard creek]

I know the feeling and unfortunately can’t upgrade with this killer deal because it’ll only be about a 35% improvement

Skipping every other generation feels like torture

[cinder kiln]

If I was shopping for one I'd get one, got no one who's in the market asking me for one rn tho

That's a nice enough price I break under new retail here

[grand orbit]

Just amazon being stupid then, sometimes it doesn't show things properly because I'm not in the US

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-amy-santiago-time-to-die-b99-brooklyn99-gif-19654540

[grand orbit]

[cinder kiln]

Oh yeah

He's irish

[stoic crest]

irish, still bri'ish

[cinder kiln]

Legit said uk confidently

[stoic crest]

and technically aussies are brits

[grand orbit]

I'm severely cpu bottlenecked with a 3060ti anyway lol

[stoic crest]

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/parksandrec-stab-angry-scissors-threat-gif-4853053

[hard creek]

LMAO I thought he was mad because you Doxxed him

[stoic crest]

oh no

scissors

[hard creek]

Can someone explain the Irish-British Drama in a nutshell

[cinder kiln]

It's the best part of him, he loves being called British

[stoic crest]

i was just foolin

[cinder kiln]

All Irish people do

[hard creek]

You’re going to get me banned

[cinder kiln]

@grand orbit BRI'ISH BRI'ISH BRI'ISH

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[hard creek]

You have no idea how close I am to spilling a generation’s worth of British slander out like a firehose

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/pengu-explode-explosion-gif-16788891

[umbral horizon]

Do people still say God save the queen on reflex

[azure pond]

god kill the queen

[pallid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cops-police-sirens-catching-crminals-what-you-gonna-do-gif-22472645

[trim pier]

Guys the queen isn’t dead

She just passed on into King Charles body

[umbral horizon]

Gross

[opal flume]

I'm in the US and it doesn't show me $529, only $629

[trim pier]

The deal expired a day ago

Sold out and is being sold by a 3rd party

Which I believe is a big supplier considering they sell a lot of XFX cards

[trim pier]

Plus if you change sellers to the amazon one, you’ll be able to get free stat field unlike this one

[opal flume]

I know, I bought one like, 5 days ago for 589

[fair moon]

For $529 I wouldn't care if my 6950xt came with Starfield or not

Coming to game pass day 1 as well anyways

[wide onyx]

I keep meaning to cancel that

[tawdry dragon]

Yo could someone help me find a $500 laptop? Something with a dedicated gpu preferably

[daring depot]

...any other requirements?

[tawdry dragon]

It has to work

[stoic crest]

sounds like you're in the market for a used laptop

well like is this gaming laptop lol

that's the question

[daring depot]

You can buy some good ones for 300 bucks

[stoic crest]

300 is too low

[daring depot]

since they depreciate like CRAZY

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah probably, I just need it to work on low settings in most games, and not overheat immediately

[stoic crest]

300 is still like 1050ti tier

and those are crap

[daring depot]

I have a 1660ti and 10300h, 16gb and 1tb thing for 300$

[stoic crest]

that's one of the rarer findings

[tawdry dragon]

I currently have a 5625u with integrated graphics, so something better then that

[daring depot]

and people still refuse to go that high

Check the Acer Nitro or Lenovo gaming laptops btw

they're pretty good starters

[tawdry dragon]

This thing refuses to play a youtube video while connected to a external monitor lol

[tawdry dragon]

I'm actively looking on fb

[daring depot]

or get an old Dell G3 for cheap

[stoic crest]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325788112965

there's this thing

it's a bid but no one seems to be bidding on it rn

i9 9th gen, idk gpu

probably something like a 2080?

either 1660ti or 2070

tho screen is 4k so do mind that

[tawdry dragon]

it's also 8gb ram, but that's an easy fix.

[stoic crest]

i'd keep an eye on this and bid last min

[tawdry dragon]

And there's still 4d left, so There's almost no chance I'll get it for this price

[stoic crest]

it's a bit of a lottery tho, working but it's like unknown