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#linux-and-android
strong plover
kind panther
Test test test test test test test
ripe knotBOT
RAWR#8810 has been warned
fallow belfry
Ah there it is
strong plover
Lol bot back
strong plover
the linux chat is so fun and inviting and normal i love you guys
That’s why Linux and general is all I talk in xD I would say I love you too but now that I know you’re a girl I feel quite strange :/
I love all y’all
There
I don’t care
What I say
And it’s not weird
kind panther
I love yall too
true void
it wouldnt b Werird u are allowed to be hospitable with no reprocussions
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strong plover
I love you rawr, my genuine techie
fallow belfry
It would only be weird if you did it in a creepy stalker way I think
true void
yeah!!!!
kind panther
Or in an insolicited way
true void
dont do that please thats weird
kind panther
Consent is important kids
strong plover
I not stalker
strong plover
Consent is important kids
Stoppit
kind panther
I’m not weird I promise
Show me ur toes to confirm
strong plover
Show me ur toes to confirm
…
Show me your face to show me it’s safe to show you my toes
And no Snapchat filters
kind panther
Time to work on ur hackintosh
strong plover
xD
strong plover
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Do you know Morse or are you spamming dots n dahss
kind panther
From 2 different isps
true void
Do you know Morse or are you spamming dots n dahss
glorp goop orb gorb
strong plover
Both my wifis
Yuck that’s not fun
kind panther
Yeah
kind panther
I get 40gb a monf
fallow belfry
I get 40gb a monf
It's a slow month when I don't go over 1tb
kind panther
It's a slow month when I don't go over 1tb
Im saying i get 40gb a monf of mobile data
strong plover
I have spotty coverage from att where I live. In some parts of our yard/house I get 2 or 3 bars but in others I get barely one
kind panther
My wifi usage exceeds 1.5tb
fallow belfry
Im saying i get 40gb a monf of mobile data
Yeah, and I have unlimited data lol
strong plover
My parents pay for fiber internet 😎 so I don’t pay extra for fast
true void
i have like 2mbps
fallow belfry
I'm constantly downloading many gb of updates and stuff for client systems, and I usually don't bother getting the wifi code
strong plover
play minecraft
I use up multiple gbs on minecraft. Even though Mc doesn’t take much data xD WiFi of course
true void
wait actlly lermme check
kind panther
I cantt wait for 3 more years
Ill have a stable job
And steady income
And maybe a keeb that doesnt repeat letters
strong plover
And maybe a keeb that doesnt repeat letters
Whatttt yours too!?
kind panther
Im doing my bachelors in comp sci rn
kind panther
Whatttt yours too!?
Yeah I have a crappy 5$ membrane
true void
oh
fallow belfry
My issue was my mouse double clicking, but it was under warranty still so I got a new one and they let me keep the old
strong plover
My computer keyboard sometimes repeats letters depending on what type of text field. It’s like always the s key, the six key, and the p key. outemu black switches.
true void
the cat or the mouse
kind panther
The mouse
Quite literally, man jumps on my computer table, sniffs the mouse pad and mouse a few times and decides that that is his pee place
strong plover
Im doing my bachelors in comp sci rn
Seee you should get techie. You even go to college so you can help wegg heads.
kind panther
I had to throw away mouse and mousepad
strong plover
Yuck.
true void
the pee spot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
strong plover
…
true void
I have a g502 with the left click fallen off
kind panther
I have a g402 now with nothing fallen off
true void
ive used it since like 8th grade I think
strong plover
I have a g502 with the left click fallen off
It was painful to look at.
true void
so true
strong plover
I have a g700s in nice condition
kind panther
Oh the escape key on my keeb is broken off
strong plover
I got it used tho
kind panther
Like the key cap
fallow belfry
I had a cat pee in my box of stuff from when I was in the military. I was pissed, had to replace the uniform parts he ruined
true void
i also got mine used!!!!!!!!1
kind panther
So I have it cello taped in place so it doesnt fly off whenever i press it
true void
I had a cat pee in my box of stuff from when I was in the military. I was *pisse...
the stuff was also pissed
strong plover
I had a cat pee in my box of stuff from when I was in the military. I was *pisse...
The stuffs was pissed too
kind panther
I had a cat pee in my box of stuff from when I was in the military. I was *pisse...
Yeah cats marking territory is the absolute worst
strong plover
Yeah cats marking territory is the absolute worst
Is it a male cat
fallow belfry
Usually but not always males
strong plover
We have a fixed male who doesn’t mark
true void
we could learn smtn from them!!!!!!!
strong plover
And our females don’t
strong plover
…
strong plover
Im not doing it on my stuff either
true void
Cowards
strong plover
Although after about 30 minutes all urine turns to ammonia right
true void
ok wait why are we talking abt this
true void
its ruined
strong plover
We jus talkin bout Linux.
fallow belfry
Linux the cat right?
strong plover
Linux the urinating cat
true void
someone qic name thier cat linux so we can have a discussion about cat piss in #linux-and-android
kind panther
This Linux chat
But the linux and the h in chat is silent
strong plover
But the linux and the h in chat is silent
RIGHT
strong plover
someone qic name thier cat linux so we can have a discussion about cat piss in <...
We can quick pretend my cat named Luna us actually named Linux
strong plover
ok im chaniging my name back this just looks suspicous
F’real
true void
wow I need to go to bed
fallow belfry
I was going to adopt a cat soon anyway, I'll name him linux
strong plover
I’m gonna name a cat Plex someday.
strong plover
wow I need to go to bed
What time is it for you
fallow belfry
G'night
strong plover
Gnight
true void
sam,e timezone we are related
fallow belfry
Phone is at 2% so I'm going too
strong plover
We are related but not friends on discord :/
kind panther
Good night falcie
true void
wow did I just end the linux chat
kind panther
Ok chipwing. Its time to test ur luck
true void
by sleeping
strong plover
Kinda
kind panther
Time to generate an smbios for ur hackintosh
strong plover
I got a bit carried away it’s so late
strong plover
Time to generate an smbios for ur hackintosh
Ooh
true void
i have no idea what that words are
strong plover
I don’t know what that is
kind panther
U sleepin rn or u free to get to ur pc
true void
good luck :)))))))))))))))
strong plover
U sleepin rn or u free to get to ur pc
I’m sleeping :/
fallow belfry
wow did I just end the linux chat
No I am, when I delete the last 2 hours of chat history and purge the logs
kind panther
I’m sleeping :/
Ahh WE SHALL TEST UR LUCK WHEN YOU AWAKE
true void
so true
kind panther
Pingy pongy me
strong plover
I have a heap of school to do tomorrow 😭
true void
ok actually gn
strong plover
I will when I can :)
kind panther
Pingy pongy when free then
strong plover
I’m excited to try
kind panther
Heh you wont be
strong plover
It might be Tuesday when I’m free?
kind panther
When you start doing it
I have vacations till the 15th
So im pretty much free all day till then
strong plover
Ok nice! How complicated is my part that I have to do?
kind panther
Not complicated
Just irritating
And time consuming
Which is why ur doing it and not me
Fun!
kind panther
Basically u have to keep running a keygen and copy pasting to apple warranty check page till you get a serial number that says purchase date not validated
Invalid and valid are both bad
Also apple page allows u to do only like 5 keys before rate limiting u
So u have to use tor browser and spoof a new ip every time rate limit
It took me 3 hours to find my serial number
strong plover
I use the brave browser which kinda has tor built in, would that work?
kind panther
It took floppa 5 mins tho which im pissed about
strong plover
Lol i wanna be a second floppa
kind panther
I use the brave browser which kinda has tor built in, would that work?
IDK never tried that. I know for a fact that tor works tho
strong plover
Okie :)
kind panther
Thankfully im just a half eaten tube of thermal paste
kind panther
Good night
strong plover
I’ll ping ye when I’m ready
kind panther
Will do!
true void
hi im awake 
kind panther
Mornin
strong plover
hi im awake <:weggSad:903403738100826142>
You got 4 hours of sleep…
true void
so true
strong plover
I got seven hours of sleep
Cause my mom said I could sleep in some cause I GIMPed that photo for her
Ofc it didn’t take me til 3
frank steeple
You got 4 hours of sleep…
Hey me too
strong plover
Thas so little sleep. Coffee is the magic one. But I don’t even drink coffee
rotund dirge
I haven’t been sleeping the best at the hospital either
strong plover
I can imagine
strong plover
I haven’t been sleeping the best at the hospital either
Do they keep the lights on all night
strong plover
That’s no fun
strong plover
Has rawr told you it won’t?
fallow belfry
Rawr is the one to ask about hackintosh, but even if you can't you should be able to do a VM
river island
vm yes
but legit no
since 1. Nvidia no longer supported on anything above high seirra
- I dont have a dedicated drive for it
lol
nocturne dragon
Hey anyone who knows about this, how hard is it to get my correct refresh rate into an Ubuntu or Arch based distribution (if it is an Arch based one I end up with, which is unlikely, it would be Manjaro)?
I am trying many different distros, even some that might be considered niche but has good support, inside of VMs to see what I like the most without modification to start with and none of them have recognized my AOC 144Hz monitor's refresh rate
frank steeple
Yup
There's a nice little program called arandr that let's you control the position, resolution, and refresh rates of your monitors
nocturne dragon
Ooooh @frank steeple Thank you!
How do I add a resolution/framerate combination to try?
For some reason, in Feren OS atm, I keep being only allowed to select 16:10 or 4:3 aspect ratio resolutions instead of 16:9.
frank steeple
Is that in the vm?
nocturne dragon
yeah
sorry for the somewhat delayed response as I don't get notification sounds until I get mentioned in Discord.
I still would like to know for when I go to setup it on the system itself whichever distro I end up with.
@frank steeple
frank steeple
It could just be a limit of whatever display system the vm is using, arandr should support 16:9 resolutions just fine
nocturne dragon
On Windows at least, it was always very simple to go into Nvidia settings or AMD settings and set a custom resolution/framerate it would try even if the display falsely told Windows it couldn't do it.
Is there something like that where you can try a custom resolution (and, if you cannot hit confirm to keep the settings it reverts after 20 seconds) in Linux distros?
frank steeple
Probably, there's the nvidia setting program available in linux too. I'd imagine that amd has a settings app too
strong plover
@true void yo. I think I’m going to accept your friend req
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
there. I did
true void
🎷🐛
mortal totem
engrish only chat
strong plover
Oh sorry
I was spam typing on my Greek keyboard
I don’t think it made any real words
mortal totem
ευχαριστω
true void
ฯ ΘΩ¤||©©©|Ωθฯ§μ¬Г´μ§°
strong plover
engrish? I need this letters be esplained
Did falcie actually delete last nights chat? Xd
Lemme see
Nope he didn’t
It’s still there lollllllllllllllllllllllllllll
true void
linux users whn rhey have a super long discussion abt cat pee 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
true void
i feel like this chat is less of a linux discussion chat and more of a Hangout For People Who Use It Sometimes
strong plover
As of recently It Definitely is.
I use Linux as daily driver
Only go back to windows for minecraft bedrock with bros
Also it’s so funny how rawr and I have had allll these discussions about hackintoshs in Linux, not Apple iOS xD
true void
the apple ios chat might beat u to death
strong plover
That’s true. Tim Cook lives there.
#mac-os-and-ios is his bedroom
And windows and software is his bathroom.
And Linux is the toilet
For all the urine
xD
strong plover
Says the hackmac man
kind panther
Which is why i enjoy hackintosh
strong plover
Ohh I see
strong plover
Although their hardware isn’t terrible for what it is
Overpriced
But whatever
Too proprietary
true void
i have no experience with macs at all 
strong plover
Same, except I’ve used one at my friends house
strong plover
I feel like once I know Linux amazingly Intimately I would be able to switch to macOS no hitch. But I think I’ll Stay Linux
true void
I have gotten to the point where ui changes dont rlly do much (desktop environment queen)
strong plover
Obviously for you xD
desktop environment queen
I can easily switch between gnome and Kde
And I haven’t tried others
I guess the main difference I see is in the system settings app
More options from Kde
true void
so like
do y'all know that one bone that lik
sticks out of ur arm when youre trying to lay your arms and head on a desk
true void
istg so like
i have my pc connected to the tv in the family room
imand its like the best
I love it sm
strong plover
sticks out of ur arm when youre trying to lay your arms and head on a desk
A lot of bones are in my arm
But honestly it’s p Comfortable
strong plover
i have my pc connected to the tv in the family room
Big screen 🥺
Just don’t like
Look at
Stuff you don’t want people to see
strong plover
What’s the best VNC app for an iPad?
I want to use my Linux machine from my iPad sometimes.
Also being able to connect to it from a different network is super handy
But I know that requires port forwarding
(From our router)
dusk kernel
i feel like this chat is less of a linux discussion chat and more of a Hangout F...
Yes that's what it is becoming. When that happens, those who are looking for actual discussion and/or help end up going elsewhere rather than spend time sorting through the off-topic comments, etc. So it becomes a downward spiral into general chat. But yeah... whatever. shrug
rancid socket
is linux better at game server hosting then windows 10 or no?
strong plover
It depends on the game I think, but in my experience with minecraft servers (Java and bedrock) the Ubuntu server performed much better. I was running it off an old i5 laptop with a mediocre ssd and 8gb ram. I used the desktop versions of both OSs, so that the machine was still useable. The windows OS was win. 10 home, and the Linux OS was Ubuntu 20.04 lts with the default gnome desktop.
@rancid socket
rancid socket
It depends on the game I think, but in my experience with minecraft servers (Jav...
i plan on doing fivem(gta) , minecraft, and rust
strong plover
I can’t speak for other games, but a minecraft server on different OSs with the exact same hardware performed much better on Linux with a desktop environment vs windows 10 home. Both had all unneeded tasks closed.
rancid socket
now would linux or windows 10 be more secure while hosting?
strong plover
But again, these both had desktop environments. And I do know that the windows desktop is more resource heavy than gnome. But the windows version only let three of us play minecraft comfortably, while the Linux let us join six different devices and didn’t struggle.
strong plover
now would linux or windows 10 be more secure while hosting?
I cannot answer that. I have only used my LAN :)
@frank steeple
Would you know about this?
frank steeple
Linux, hands down
strong plover
There. You heard him. (hes techie :))
frank steeple
I'm also sysadmin
strong plover
Sysadmin for who?
strong plover
Man you have a great administrator
Also
Emy
You sent me friend request
Now I’m going to dm you
And there’s Nothing you can do about it
true void
strong plover
@frank steeple what is an A100 80gb?
frank steeple
A GPU
strong plover
Is it for a server? Or just a freakin overpowered desktop
frank steeple
Server or workstations
It doesn't have a video output
It also just has a passive block for cooling lol
frank steeple
Not personally, it's just in a system that I worked with
frank steeple
It is
frank steeple
In general
strong plover
Cause I know a guy who works for Air Force who had access to an a100 gpu
frank steeple
This one in particular not gonna say
frank steeple
No
strong plover
Oh man I’d like to see a cinebench test from one of those. LTT once used a 64 core epyc and it looked like a Timelapse
Also
Combine the a100 with the 128 core epyc. That would be epic.
frank steeple
Unfortunately it was a headless Linux server
That particular server also only had v100's
strong plover
Ah so no monitor
Oh well it’s still a beast of a server
Does anyone know if it’s possible to disable any mouse debounce settings in Linux? I am wondering because if I get a glorious model o and want it to double click in Linux, I won’t have the glorious software to adjust the debounce time
true void
i dont evn kniw what a debounce is 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎
strong plover
It’s when you click your mouse and it registers two clicks. Usually it’s a bad thing, but in minecraft 1.8 pvp it’s useful
Well, that’s what double clicking is. You get it by lowering your debounce time as low as you can
strong plover
i dont evn kniw what a debounce is 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎
How’d you put so many emojis and not get kicked
true void
bcuz im cool
true void
✨
strong plover
As long as I’m allowed to dodge???????
true void
no cringe bad no dodging
strong plover
No cringe bad no chair whacking
I’m going to Chicago this weekend and you can’t find me anymore. You can’t whack me with chair
true void
chicago
fallow belfry
How’d you put so many emojis and not get kicked
I think admins loosened the "duplicate text" filter
frank steeple
Looks like it's five duplicates allowed now
ripe knotBOT
RAWR#8810 has been warned
kind panther
Looks like it's five duplicates allowed now
Nope
strong plover
true void
hi im in class hiding in the cabinet
sturdy sand
hi im in class hiding in the cabinet
Hwat
true void
the cabinet im inside it
true void
no im allowed to be on discord regardless we arent doing anything
true void
not hiding but no ones found me
strong plover
Strange
Also I think I might need to make a hot key stroke to open gimp too
It’s epic
I made a picture of my friend
true void
the gimp button,,,,,,,
strong plover
Yes!!!
strong plover
Okie I made the gimp Button
strong plover
THIS IS THE POWER OF THE GIMP BUTTON
(had to blur his face because yea)
Backstory for any sad/confused animal people: way back in June our fams went to the zoo.
mortal totem
stepping on a seal?
strong plover
mortal totem
rude
strong plover
No read the thing
the Point is not stepping on the seal, the point is that gimp is Wonderful
true void
omg hand reveal
strong plover
Omg I don’t care
Voice too
If you wanna see my face go to My YouTube channel and Click on Videos
strong plover
But do you have a gnu/Linux copypasta button?
No I don’t. Any suggestions as to what it should say?
strong plover
Or a rick roll button?
As for this, I personally am the rickroll button ;)
strong plover
If I install another desktop environment, such as gnome, will it install a bunch of its apps that go with it? Like the file explorer, clocks, calculator, software store etc
true void
or may b im just unattentive
true void
what de
strong plover
Will stuff like Dolphin (Kde file looker atter) work in say, gnome
true void
Yes
strong plover
Or any of Kde stuff
true void
i use thunar in every de
strong plover
Whats thunar
true void
xfces file manager
strong plover
Is it really good?
strong plover
Hmm
Does it let you like look at google drive
Or iCloud storage
And does it have tabs you can open in it
strong plover
iCloud is a stretch. There’s not a super easy way to integrate it, but I kinda wish
Ooh
Nice
Cause I’ve got to say, tabs are so helpful
strong plover
Same
Why do you think I’m using Linux
Lol
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaba
I ditched windows cmon
I pity people who think they need to buy chromebooks
Because they’re used to chrome os
And it’s all backed up
strong plover
my imternet is too slow
Oh. Yeah. I remember now.
You said networks were dumb and poopy :((((
true void
i just have like 4tb of random drives laying arnd
strong plover
And I said you were too If you thought that
true void
so true
strong plover
i just have like 4tb of random drives laying arnd
Nice xD
Is there an organization to them or nah, just file dump
true void
mild organization
I have one that makes my pc not boot unless its the only drive plugfed in so its just laying in a drawer
theres nothing on it
like there are folders but the misc folder is the largestt
strong plover
I have one that makes my pc not boot unless its the only drive plugfed in so its...
That’s annoying
I have a couple terabytes of storage total
strong plover
like there are folders but the misc folder is the largestt
But it’s in a folder, so it’s fearfully wonderfully organized
true void
all my stroage is like
assorted laptop drives and my main one which is a 1tb ssd which i managed to get enough for
strong plover
assorted laptop drives and my main one which is a 1tb ssd which i managed to get...
…
Very similar
I have a 1tb m.2 with Linux on it, and a 500gb mx500 with windows on it (both internal). Then I have a 120 gb ssd which I might try putting macOS on with rawr the actual techie, and then I 1tb wd blue hdd, a 320 gb hdd, a 480 gb hdd, and a 900-something gb hdd (the last 3 are salvaged from laptops).
And I also have two more hard drives but they’re superrrrrr Slow so I don’t trust them
true void
The Junk
strong plover
Mhm!!!!!
Yuh
Wait why does your pfp icon say you’re inactive when your sending messages
That’s weird
How
true void
strong plover
Uhh i was already somehow set to idle
true void
strong plover
Ohhh I see
I was like, the fifth status of what
Platonic marriage, but you’ll still hit them with chair. Yep
More like
Uh
Nvm
true void
violence (platonic)
strong plover
It’s like “are you dating?” Nah we’re just platonic friends *proceeds to bash chair over head
So wait. Does my profile show a green dot, or the mobile phone symbol?
true void
mobile
strong plover
I am sleep deprived because of gimp.
And Linux in general
So much to learn still
true void
have you discovered the filters menu
strong plover
On discord? Or Linux
true void
gimp
true void
t He filters menu is v fun
strong plover
I will
Tomorrow though
The scissors tool for cutting stuff out/selecting is handy, but for most stuff putting my mouse on a very low sens and zooming in a lot made it very easy to trace the outline precisely
(With the free selection tool)
true void
i use free select like a lot more than most thigns
scissors can sometimes be wacky
n weird
true void
what do u mean Sry i accept ths statement
true void
these are positive 🙏
strong plover
The pleading face is positive? I mean I use it as positive in texting and sad/hurt on discord cause of the name
true void
ys
strong plover
So you were thinking positively when I sent you a dm of :wegg: and #linux-and-android
I’m confused
Alr
U R WACKY N WEIRD
BE PROUD
true void
assume i am thinking psoisitively all the time
true void
Yes
true void
strong plover
:weggtired:
strong plover
Is It dirty or is This an experiment
true void
horrifically dirty but also i wanna see wht happens
true void
lmao i threw it in
strong plover
did it die
true void
im doijg the same thing
strong plover
anything is Fair on craiglist
strong plover
Do you sell stuff on craiglist
true void
Death
strong plover
death by chair
strong plover
Which vnc client should I use for my Ubuntu studio machine?
Also, is it safe to somehow use it on a different network, and from my iPad? I used to do it with Remote Desktop
If I can get it set up by tomorrow afternoon that would be great :) I’m going out of town and can’t live without gimp anymore
(I know gimp won’t be super smooth, that’s fine)
strong plover
@frank steeple I didn’t ping you before because you were offline :) got suggestions for this?
frank steeple
Dunno, I usually use cli for remote connections
strong plover
Do you know anyone here that does vnc?
rotund dirge
If there’s a program I really want to use that’s on one of my machines and I called install it somewhere else, I use an SSH tunnel.
strong plover
If there’s a program I really want to use that’s on one of my machines and I cal...
Can you see a gui/desktop when you use an ssh tunnel?
strong plover
Ooh
strong plover
So what’s the opinion of anydesk for remote access to my computer? Is it safe? Hopefully not Hackable?
strong plover
It just seems a lot quicker to set up atm
fallow belfry
Everything on the internet is hackable, it's only a matter of effort to do so vs potential payoff
Technically even things off the internet are hackable in the strictest definition
kind panther
You can just install it back
strong plover
rip
dusk kernel
So what’s the opinion of anydesk for remote access to my computer? Is it safe? H...
Have you considered TeamViewer?
strong plover
I haven’t heard of it outside of Jim browning and scambaiter on YouTube xD so I guess I have a pretty low opinion of it. Is team viewer good?
dusk kernel
It was easy enough to set up and has always worked well enough when I've used it in the past. It's free for personal use and will run on both OS's you've mentioned.
Oh, I'm assuming that you will be using the iPad remotely and not a Windows or Linux laptop/desktop/device.
If you have access to a Windows machine and just want to use GIMP, I'd suggest checking out https://portableapps.com/
strong plover
Yes. I kinda of want to use my iPad with me because it’s portable, and leave desktop at home
dusk kernel
I won't be offended if you wait for "official Techie approval" of TeamViewer. It's been a couple of years since I used it regularly.
strong plover
If you have access to a Windows machine and just want to use GIMP, I'd suggest c...
That’s actually p cool. I’ll have to try that out. Now I could just bring my program to my friends house instead of complain
I was really interested in guyinblueshirt ssh tunnel thing, but I don’t know if it will work on an iPad
dusk kernel
Yeah, just install the apps you want to a thumb drive, or to a drive in an external enclosure. USB3 makes PortableApps perform really well, but USB2 is usually adequate.
Since we're in the Linux channel... one other cool thing about PortableApps is that occasionally, apps set up for portable use will work on Linux using WINE, whereas the non-portable version won't.
strong plover
Whoaa I just had an idea… I bet I could use portable apps to take a Linux vm wherever I go
That would be super cool
dusk kernel
I think you're right about that... seems like I've done something similar.
strong plover
Since we're in the Linux channel... one other cool thing about PortableApps is t...
Are there any specific ones, or just in general
dusk kernel
Or... if we're assuming you have access to a desktop machine... just boot from a USB device and skip the VM complications.
I can't recall any specific apps that ran using WINE where the regular ones wouldn't. It's been quite a while since I tinkered with that.
strong plover
Or... if we're assuming you have access to a desktop machine... just boot from a...
True, but if it’s a friends computer and they want to have their stuff simultaneously, that would be a good option. Vm on stick drive wouldn’t be the fastest, but it’d get the job done in a pinch
dusk kernel
Right, if they need simultaneous access to the machine, Linux in a VM would work. And if it's USB3, it should be pretty usable.
"SHOULD" meaning, I'm guessing since I've not done that in a while.
Or... since there always multiple options when discussing multiple OS's, heh heh.... if all else fails, you could just have the friend install GIMP on their machine.
strong plover
Or... since there always multiple options when discussing multiple OS's, heh heh...
Well, the using gimp part was from my iPad. Taking files around was for the portable apps lol
fallow belfry
I use teamviewer a lot for remote connections to friend's computers because it's easy for them to just install and give me the password.
strong plover
Hm okay good to know
strong plover
Gimp runs fine on windows 8 
@true void
strong plover
(I have a laptop with with windows 8)
(I am having trouble putting Ubuntu on it)
I disabled secure boot though. I don’t know what the issue is
strong plover
Rawr was doing it?
frank steeple
Lol
strong plover
He changed his name to Dallas. I totally forgot
true void
Gimp runs fine on windows 8 <:yeet_wegg:724162446121762882> <:Newegg2:6120003947...
I used to use it on windows 8 whn I used windows 8 as my main os
true void
i need someone to follow me arnd and say things i cant do it anymore
nocturne dragon
Hey, does anyone know of any alternatives to "wmgui" for an Ubuntu 20.04 based distro? I am trying to setup some Wii controllers to be recognized and used properly by the dolphin emulator for my father but I found out that wmgui likely doesn't work anymore in the current LTS Ubuntu based distros due to a move to only Python 3.
At the very least, it isn't available from the current repositories that are available to us in Zorin OS.
rotund dirge
Hey, does anyone know of any alternatives to "wmgui" for an Ubuntu 20.04 based d...
I don’t understand. If it needs python3, why not install Python3..?
frank steeple
Sounds more like it needs non python 3
You can theoretically install python 2.7 but you really really shouldn't
rotund dirge
A lot of programs still require python2.7 though.
I mean, look at emerge on gentoo.
Last I checked, it used Python2.7
kind panther
Haha gentoo
frank steeple
Last I checked, it used Python2.7
That's a huge problem if it does
2.7 is completely eol, it's not even receiving security updates anymore
rotund dirge
2.7 is completely eol, it's not even receiving security updates anymore
It appears gentoo upgraded portage to drop support for 2.7 somewhat recently.
Last September apparently.
9 months after EOL
strong plover
I have python 2.7 installed on my windows machine because of a python library I wanted to use. But then they updated it for 3 and I was happy
nocturne dragon
@frank steeple @rotund dirge Then what should I do? The program is old but the only one in existence I can find any information on and is the missing piece of a puzzle to allow the controllers to work in Dolphin.
Practically speaking, I don't know of any good options I have
There was one possible alternative mentioned that is meant for Arch but it was only briefly mentioned by someone else trying to solve the same issue but they obviously couldn't get it running in an Ubuntu based distro
rotund dirge
<@!590241344803569675> <@!139096210832228352> Then what should I do? The program...
I mean, like Bob said, you could install Python2.7.
I mean what was the arch alternative?
nocturne dragon
let me try to find the forum again and I will post if I am able. Someone was trying to solve this problem in April but no answers were found and that is where I heard of it from.
I did just find out the package is available in 20.10 but not specifically in 20.04 which Zorin OS is based on.
@rotund dirge I believe it is called XWiimote.
nocturne dragon
I believe it is usually in an AUR package.
strong plover
i need someone to follow me arnd and say things i cant do it anymore <:weggSad:9...
Man. Felt that
rotund dirge
I believe it is usually in an AUR package.
I mean, AUR packages are just instructions on how to install and what to download, right?
It probably has you compile something.
frank steeple
I mean, AUR packages are just instructions on how to install and what to downloa...
Pretty much. Some are binaries, some need compiling
Though tbh most linux package managers are like that
strong plover
This is me/possibly all Linux users.
When a windows user comes up and starts talking down on me.
The song from live action Aladdin starts going through my head before I laugh at them.
I WONT BE SILENT YOU CANT KEEP ME QUIET WONT TREMBLE WHEN YOU TRY IT ALL I KNOW IS I WONT GOOO SPEECHLESS… SPEECHLESSSSSSSSSSSS
mortal totem
lol
strong plover
(My choir is singing that one)
nocturne dragon
I found this super interesting to watch and I think a lot of people would too.
Some of the issues that came up were interesting as well in some ways.
mortal totem
lol
rotund dirge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0506yDSgU7M&t=1s
This irritates me lol.
nocturne dragon
@rotund dirge What part?
mortal totem
how did linus manage to bork pop
nocturne dragon
Pop's .iso file is borked from download
If you don't update it immediately and try to install Steam, it deletes the GUIs and DE
mortal totem
lol
rotund dirge
Is that what it was?
nocturne dragon
during that period of time they rushed out updates to fix it but some people stumbled into the bug and it is basically irreversible without fresh install
rotund dirge
nocturne dragon
Yep
rotund dirge
Still though.
The steps he took to do that whole thing.
You’d think he’d be like “wait, why am I doing all of this for steam?”
nocturne dragon
I will be completely fair, he didn't fully read the last sentence before typing what it told him to to proceed
rotund dirge
He didn’t read a lot of what it said
nocturne dragon
@rotund dirge Keep in mind that he believes that Linux is unnecessarily complicated from the getgo so he didn't question it
rotund dirge
I didn’t know Linus was so closed minded.
nocturne dragon
Which is a problem of perception for a lot of people I have noticed
I don't think it is closed minded as much as he has bad preconceptions
rotund dirge
I mean, people think it’s complicated because they’re sheep.
They see decisions on what to get as “unnecessarily complicated.”
nocturne dragon
I have met people in real life when talking about us (me and my dad) trying Linux and they legit ask me why I would want to only be able to use a terminal as they believe that only a terminal exists in Linux distros
rotund dirge
Oh, got to pick between 2 DEs? It’s unnecessarily complicated.
The funny thing is, you don’t need to use the terminal in something like PopOS.
There’s the Pop Store for that reason.
nocturne dragon
View it through the lens of him trying to see what mainstream people might think when trying Linux for the first time and experiencing it (He finds himself to be partially representative but more technically able).
During one of the recent WAN shows, he does directly state he believes that, for non gaming use, Linux distros are comparable and in some ways better than Windows so his opinion changes the longer he uses it and records new parts.
nocturne dragon
Yep, which is why I find the first parts to be so important to show what a regular PC power user might run into while trying out distros and the feedback is very useful and insightful imo.
rotund dirge
As more people use Linux, it’ll give developers a reason to make a proton compatible version.
Or native version.
nocturne dragon
With that said, I checked proton db and over 80% of games were compatible the last time I checked and both BattleEye and Easy Anti-cheat announced they were providing support for Linux when developers opt-in now after the Steam Deck announcement.
I personally haven't found a game yet of mine that doesn't work but Dead By Daylight and that will work soon because of that announcement if they literally flip a switch (which they would have every reason to do so).
rotund dirge
Honestly the big issue nowadays are F2P games and some AAA titles.
Like Riot Games will probably never support proton.
Or make a Linux port.
nocturne dragon
Look at the colors of this list of top 100 games. There is only a handful at most that are red. That is insanely good compared to even 6 months ago.
rotund dirge
Green is native?
nocturne dragon
Silver games and better I consider to be playable for the most part as I have been able to get roughly 75% of those to run flawlessly in the living room.
Yeah
I will post how the ratings work. One sec.
nocturne dragon
Yep.
Also, this website shows games and their upcoming support in their anticheats for Steam Deck + other Linux platforms:
Honestly, all of this has me excited where I am moving to dual booting Win11 and either Feren OS or Zorin OS (likely Feren OS to be able to use KDE plasma desktop environment customization immediately) as I will be able to move most of my games over to the Linux side which will be my main OS.
Sadly, I will be forced to keep Windows for some very specific things I do like using Windows Mixed Reality VR.
strong plover
I have met people in real life when talking about us (me and my dad) trying Linu...
My parents are the same xD
nocturne dragon
Thankfully, as adoption increases, people can clear up those misconceptions :)
strong plover
Hopefully
rotund dirge
muted junco
s
strong plover
We don’t speak s here, try English
frank steeple
We don’t speak s here, try English
s
true void
kind panther
S sss Sss sssssss SSSsSs sssS sss
strong plover
Why does the snake emoji have so much controversy. I got roasted by my friends. I didn’t even know at the time
kind panther
Why does the snake emoji have so much controversy. I got roasted by my friends. ...
I know why
Its because
Sssssssssssss
You know what im sssssssssaying?
dusk kernel
🐍 🇸 🇸 🇸 🇸 🇸 SS🇸 S🇸 sssss🇸 🇸
🐍 🇴 🇸 .... aka "SnekOS"
OK, back to work for me. eyeroll
strong plover
🐍 🇴 🇸 .... aka "SnekOS"
Would daily drive it
rotund dirge
Why does the snake emoji have so much controversy. I got roasted by my friends. ...
Wait it does?
true void
🔨
strong plover
Wait it does?
Uh
mortal totem
controversy?
rotund dirge
^
strong plover
controversy?
I used to use snake emoji for like sly and lurking, but I used it in a groupchat and people were like saying it was s**ual and not appropriate but funny, and then they started being flirty and I felt horrible
I don’t know another word instead of controversial
Cause you guys seem to think it’s fine
Idk
fallow belfry
Snek shouldn't mean peen, unless you're a child
mortal totem
looks fine to me
tbh now that im looking at it more, its looks a little like among us
and i feel horrible for saying that
strong plover
Snek shouldn't mean peen, unless you're a child
Okay I literally have no clue. And yea, I’m technically a child although this happened a couple years ago when I still had android phone (snake looked different)
you wouldn’t even write out the word snake lol. So maybe it does have a little bit of nagging restraint in peoples minds
Why is Linux chat random sometimes
I love it
true void
linux chat is just genchat but everyone is cool
strong plover
no wacko skiptrace types come here. and if they do we sudo rm -rf / them or Something.... becuase windows users dint have that much power
frank steeple
linux chat is just genchat but everyone is cool
Nah, that's #techie
strong plover
#techie ??
strong plover
emy stop
we cant insult bob. hes too powerful. linux matster trulely.
ack all the typos
im on my real keyboard but im being super quiet
so its hard to type right
true void
activiate foam fingers
strong plover
they should have made techies the same color as legends. that purple one
strong plover
activiate foam fingers
freal
true void
wow so its beginning 2 sink in
that i have a therapist appt tomorrow
and will have to say things
if it isnt the thing i specifically requested on this exact day sneaking up on me again smh
i need to wake up for it too
granted i just have to wake up before 12pm but Still
what if i dont
i just have
to like wake up and make sure my hair doesmt look weird and then log on since its a teletherapy appt
true void
good in this case but also scary because yeah
strong plover
i hope it goes well
true void
same sometimes
strong plover
although at the moment i like sweatshirts better than hoodies
for all aroudn, not just sleep
fallow belfry
But if you mark awful you have to tell them why, and that's just a hassle lol
true void
"WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FLASHING LIGHTS"
ad is unskippable until the flashing lights have already started
strong plover
I can trash talk youtube
kinda fun ngl
strong plover
But if you mark awful you have to tell them why, and that's just a hassle lol
but hes right. once i put in a dumb reason lol
true void
awful
reason: god yhose weird borderline nsfw weird angel game ads,,,,,
im yrying to be entertained not Uncomfortable
fallow belfry
You can tell it to not show that ad any more
strong plover
You can tell it to not show that ad any more
only if youre signed in. i used to be but i signed out
true void
You can tell it to not show that ad any more
nut then
then
it still does
god I m tired v v tiresd sleepy
true void
it did
true void
Really Good
true void
desktop environment queen
strong plover
Okie you’re still fine
I was making a computer wallpaper in gimp. I used my gimp button. I am epic
true void
gimp is amazing flr those
kind panther
Me
strong plover
Let me rephrase that
Who needs photoshop for the price they rent it for
Ngl tho photoshop is super cool and powerful
But gimp is free and fun
kind panther
Fair
river island
@teal cape
strong plover
<@!122901618369757184>
Why you ping him in here
river island
cuz i can
river island
no
strong plover
Aw man
kind panther
Wait does sippy run Linux?
No
strong plover
If he did sips would deserve the 8foot orange mushroom statue
nocturne dragon
Hey, I am very unfamiliar with this kind of thing so I thought I should ask it here to people with way more experience and knowledge than me as I haven't permanently switched to any Linux distro yet:
Can you install the graphical package manager store from one distro into another distro? As an example, if I wanted the Pop Shop in a non-Pop_Os distro?
When it comes to package management, file management, how distros work under the hood, etc. I am so completely ignorant of how most of it works that I am trying to learn the basics through examples that interest me.
fallow belfry
You could but you might get weird results. Most packages in the pop shop are flatpacks instead of debs, and you can technically use both on the same system with some work.
nocturne dragon
I see.
fallow belfry
You'd also need to mess with repositories which can get... messy.
nocturne dragon
I am asking because I was wondering if I should just settle for Pop_Os as it seems to have the best store for my purposes even if I don't like the DE and such it comes with to start.
fallow belfry
It's a lot easier to just install a new DE
nocturne dragon
Ah okay
I am tempted to go to Feren Os and just accept I won't like the store as much as I really like their customization of Plasma.
rotund dirge
Why not just install a different DE?
nocturne dragon
Mainly due to me worrying about breaking stuff and not being able to figure out how to customize Plasma to my liking
fallow belfry
You can take the packages for that version of plasma and install it on pop
nocturne dragon
Oh, how would I go about doing that?
rotund dirge
They’re usually just themes.
nocturne dragon
(sorry if it seems like I am playing 20 questions as I don't want to break an install of Pop Os inside of KDE Plasma again)
fallow belfry
There's a half dozen ways to get the packages, just like everything on Linux it comes down to how you prefer to download
The way to avoid breaking a Linux OS is to use the built in backup mechanism to make a system image you can restore with a single command
nocturne dragon
What is a really good, quick way? I always appreciate choice but sometimes there are so many options I can't figure out which one is best.
Also, does pop come with a backup software? I might have missed it last time.
fallow belfry
You can either temporarily add the repositories feren uses and install from those, then delete them, or you can just navigate in the browser and manually download them and the dependencies.
nocturne dragon
How would I find which repositories to add specifically for the DE?
Is there a resource for that online I could look at for future reference if something like that comes up again?
fallow belfry
You can just do a quick google search for "(Insert OS) Repositories" and one of the first few results will tell you what they are
Changing the repositories is easy if you use a GUI like synaptic package manager
It should warn you too when you're about to do something potentially damaging that way
nocturne dragon
Okay
I will try that in a VM to see if I can make an install I am happy with that way
Btw, thank you so much for your help!
Wait a second, actually, don't I have to know what to tell it to install when in that repository? Like, what would I type after "sudo apt install" in the terminal to get the right package?
fallow belfry
That's why it's easier to use a GUI like synaptic, you can search for what you want and it will find the exact names and select it for you, as well as dependencies
As far as backup, it's been a while since I used Pop so I guess it doesn't come with a backup but I recommend Timeshift
nocturne dragon
So, I just need to add and use Synaptic package manager inside of it (the VM to test) then?
fallow belfry
VM is a great way to test that, yes
nocturne dragon
Alright, I will try it and send some screenshots of the result
Thank you so much!
fallow belfry
The package is just named "synaptic" so you can sudo apt-get install synaptic timeshift so then it installs both at once to save a step
nocturne dragon
I didn't realize you could install multiple packages in one line
I really need to familiarize myself with the syntax for the terminal
fallow belfry
Yeah, you can even do multiple commands on one line and filter results. Terminal is really powerful.
So you can do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade on one line
nocturne dragon
I know "sudo" is telling it to run the command as a temp super user and "apt" calls your package manager indirectly (or you can use "apt-get" to use it directly)
but I need to learn the rest of the syntax and exact meanings of them
fallow belfry
Also lspci | grep wifi will list any wireless devices, using ' | ' as a pipe and grep as a filtering program
nocturne dragon
Something I highly appreciate is that the terminal works with commands similar to a basic programming language inside of the OS
I don't remember a ton from my programming courses but "&&" is a good example of something I used to see a lot in use
fallow belfry
Any time you want to learn more about a command, just man 8 "command" and you'll get a full manual and description of syntax and such
nocturne dragon
Oooh, that one I will be using a lot at first then as I want to learn what I can as I decided to commit to a switch by Christmas
fallow belfry
Definitely, that one has saved my butt multiple times
nocturne dragon
I say so
After all, they say: "The first step to solving a problem is to first understand the said problem"
nocturne dragon
Okay, I have a github page with repositories and I don't exactly know where to go from here:
I can definitely tell there will be a learning curve to all of this as I have only ever used Windows XP, Windows 7, and Vista as a kid before now using Windows 10. I am struggling with specific things but I am very much enjoying the learning curve to doing things in different ways.
fallow belfry
Once you have synaptic installed you can view and change repos in the settings
Run a system image in timeshift first
nocturne dragon
To add a repo, do I add it based on its URL?
I am not familiar with how to do that part. I saw where to add it in settings.
Sorry for not clarifying.
fallow belfry
Basically yes, you just copy the info and paste it into that screen. The address is the web address.
Architecture you're probably using amd64 (even on intel)
nocturne dragon
Oh okay. That makes this much easier. Is there a specific repository I need or just the link for all repositories?
fallow belfry
Each one should be a separate entry. If you have one already like the base debian one, you can skip it.
You can also skip source (or src) ones
Once you've done all that, restart it and run another image on timeshift for good measure
nocturne dragon
Okay, I added the repositories link for Feren using the link I posted above.
Taking a snapshot now
fallow belfry
Once you've done that, you can open synaptic and search for "plasma" in package names. Usually any unique versions will be noted, like plasma-feren or something. Not always, but often.
nocturne dragon
Hmm
There are so many packages
I found these two but they don't look any different than I would expect from regular Plasma:
fallow belfry
More or less than 50 results? You can filter it down more if more
nocturne dragon
looks to be way more than 50
There are even Kubuntu versions of KDE showing up
as well as tons of themes and such
fallow belfry
Try search for feren plasma in package names and descriptions
It's probably the standard plasma with a theme
fallow belfry
Lol
nocturne dragon
I am very glad I am temporarily experimenting with this in Windows VM so I can snip, lol
fallow belfry
Hang on I'll hop over to my desktop and find the packages
nocturne dragon
Okay, thank you! Seriously!
fallow belfry
Plasma-desktop is the first, looking for the custom theme name now
Oh nice and simple, feren-os-theme
rotund dirge
Don’t you love it when Linux makes it simple?