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frank steeple Mar 12, 2021, 5:49 AM

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And to answer your question, lili doesn't do GUI because she works with servers. No reason to have gui on a server

night charm Mar 12, 2021, 5:56 AM

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lol thats fair

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i think it is fun to play with gui linux tho

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and yes, that is polybar

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i gotta find a better screenshot package

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right now im using deepin-screen-recorder bound to printscrn for taking partial screenshots and gnome-screenshot bound to alt + printscrn for full screenshot

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maybe gnome-screenshot has some option i can pass it to function more like snip n sketch on windows

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bob, i still think i have ur ram chart program

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:0 imagine a multi use desktop widget thing, like one setting has it be a radial audio visualizer like in my screenshot, but you can swap it to a pie chart of ram usage, disk usage, cpu/gpu usage, etc.

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a multi purpose widget like that would be so cool

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ok this is kind if a stretch

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but in the bugatti chiron you can hold a certain button to make dials display different information

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it makes a cleaner overall look without sacrificing much convenience because you wont be looking at those stats all the time

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aaaaahhhh its so fun to be back with linux

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i mean you can tell by my last couple messages i just sent compared to how absent ive been in the server besides that, shows how excited i am lol

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i even spent an hour or so fixing my nvidia drivers (again) and even that didn't deter me

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love_it

frank steeple Mar 12, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Nice

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Have you looked at flameshot at all?

night charm Mar 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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i have not, but i just looked it up and it looks perfect

dusk kernel Mar 12, 2021, 7:03 PM

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@night charm Welcome back to dual-boot world. 😄 I'm going to start setting up a fresh dual-boot system soon, maybe today. I've been running dual for years, just haven't set up a system in a while, so that UTC bit mentioned earlier will be very handy.

night charm Mar 12, 2021, 7:09 PM

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nice lol

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@dusk kernel what osses will you be dual booting?

dusk kernel Mar 12, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Fedora 33 and Win10

exotic sail Mar 14, 2021, 5:57 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

keen geyser Mar 14, 2021, 6:58 PM

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exotic sail One message removed from a suspended account.

yes, very sus

night charm Mar 14, 2021, 9:11 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/cskb33/oc_i_wrote_a_script_that_periodically_sets_your/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

r/unixporn - [OC] I wrote a script that periodically sets your wall...

3,213 votes and 205 comments so far on Reddit

frank steeple Mar 14, 2021, 9:46 PM

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That's a lot of running processes

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Pretty darn cool though

night charm Mar 14, 2021, 9:59 PM

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spotify was the largest LOL

dusk kernel Mar 14, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Win10 is installed... Fedora 33 is installed and updating. wheeeee!

dusk kernel Mar 15, 2021, 12:25 AM

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And now for weeks of app installation and GUI tweaking. Good times.

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Would it be worth it to wipe a TB of games off my desktop for Linux or should I just run off the USB?

tight eagle Mar 15, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Start with USB

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Alright

fallow belfry Mar 15, 2021, 3:06 AM

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USB 3.0 or better is fast enough to boot Linux, and it doesn't mind being installed on USB either usually

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:20 AM

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Cool

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I have no idea what type of USB mine is but it booted Linux up fine last time I tried

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Apparently it’s 2.0

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I bought it like a year or 2 ago I have no idea when

fallow belfry Mar 15, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Generally USB 3.0+ will have blue instead of black on the inner connector plastic. That's more a guideline than a rule though.

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Yeah this one has blue on the inside

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And I don’t have WiFi now...

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I just booted into it

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:31 AM

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What linux distro did you get?

fallow belfry Mar 15, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Linux and wifi have a complicated relationship... What wifi card is it? I could find the module (driver) you need

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Ubuntu

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Ubuntu should most likely work out of the box

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Yeah it worked fine for me last time I tried it...

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Is the wifi connector not even being detected?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:32 AM

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How can I see that?

fallow belfry Mar 15, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Oh weird, no reason it shouldn't work the second time

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:32 AM

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The menu bar on the upper right, is there the option to connect to any wifi networks?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Nope

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Odd

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:33 AM

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And in settings it just shows wired connection

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Which I cannot use

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:33 AM

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What is the output of the command lspci | grep -i network

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I forgot how to open the command lol

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Ctrl+Alt+T should do the trick in ubuntu

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Alright thanks

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Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev la)

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:35 AM

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ooh

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:35 AM

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So it is detected...

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:35 AM

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What is the output of uname -r

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:35 AM

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5.4.0-42-generic

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:35 AM

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What version of ubuntu are you running?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:36 AM

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No idea

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:36 AM

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lsb_release should probably give the version

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:36 AM

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It said No LSB modules are available

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Dang

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:37 AM

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I know for sure when I installed it it was the latest version which was like a month or 2 ago

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:38 AM

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Okay

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Interesting, it looks like that wifi chip should work with kernel 5.1 and newer

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Can you tether over USB and run a system update?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:41 AM

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Huh

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I mean I can connect my phones hotspot

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So how can I do a system update

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Run sudo apt update and then sudo apt upgrade

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Alright

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Oh wait would the version be this?

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Yup, that's it

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Alright

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I ran the commands

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Well that's interesting

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Go ahead and reboot

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Alright

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It’s telling me to remove the USB and press enter

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Do so

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Alright

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:48 AM

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You'll need to plug the usb back in before you restart

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:48 AM

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It already restarted for me and put me back to windows

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Yeah, it will do that

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Alright

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I also changed ports as I realized it was in a 2.0 slot

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Okay

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:54 AM

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I’m in again

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Still no WiFi detected

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:54 AM

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Darn

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Wait, I'm dumb

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This is a live boot USB isn't it

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:54 AM

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Yeah

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Rebooting wiped the updates then

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Ah

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Try running them again

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Alright

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My charger stopped working...

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:56 AM

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wha

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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And idk if I have another one down here...

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Okay, that's fine

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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I found one somehow

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I got a different output this time

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It says it failed to fetch

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Also I know for sure the hotspot is working

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Would it be possible for me to just install it and not have to wipe the hard drive?

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Think that might also fix it?

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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What you can do is install to only part of the drive

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Alright

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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How much free space do you have?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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I’ll see

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333.5GB

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Nice, that's plenty

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When you install, there will be an option to install alongside of windows

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Alright

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Give it 100GB or so of disk space

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Alright

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I keep forgetting it doesn’t remember my volume...

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100GB is 10000MB right?

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:07 AM

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100,000 MB

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Alright

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What do I want to use the partition as?

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Also should I format it

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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What are the options?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Ext4

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Alright

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Now it says this

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Mount point should be /

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Alright

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It’s saying the size is too small

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Hmm

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:12 AM

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Then what should I click from here

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My cat just jumped on top my desktop....

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Is this a game drive or a boot drive?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:13 AM

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I use it as a game drive currently but want to also use it as a boot drive I don’t have many games on it

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Okay cool

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Resize the NTFS partition to make it about 100,000 MB smaller

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Alright

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What should I set the mount point as?

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Now I think I see why 2.0 isn’t good enough...

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Should I still set it as /?

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Yup

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Alright

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Anything else I should change here?

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Also seems the issue with my hotspot was a bad USB slot actually... I just plugged the cable into the wall and it works fine now lol

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Installing it now

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 4:48 AM

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Sorry, had to go AFK

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All looks good

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 4:50 AM

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It’s alright cool

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Was changing the other partition to windows alright? I had to change one of them otherwise it wouldn’t let me install

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How do I get the partition to show in the boot order? I see my hard drive but I don’t see the partition I created

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It’s a MSI motherboard btw

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Like it shows the whole hard drive it doesn’t show as 2 partitions

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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Shouldn’t it just pop up?

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Like show up in windows?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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No in the boot order

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Ah

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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I hit F11 to show all my boot options it doesn’t show the partition

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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It probably won't show that exact partition

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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It doesn’t even show one it just says the name of the HDD

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And only once

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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That's probably it then. What does that boot to?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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It boots to a black screen telling me to put in the correct disk with a OS

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Darn

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Sounds like the bootloader didn't set up right

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Is windows able to boot?

zinc harness Mar 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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Yeah

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I have Windows installed on a separate SSD

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Windows shows the hard drive too but now only shows 800GB as it should but doesn’t show the partition

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What would happen if I tried mounting it as something else?

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I’m installing it now with the 800GB partition now being a /dos instead of /windows

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So I screwed up and did what I originally intended to do which was run both of them off the same drive...

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Didn’t break anything!

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Yay

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Still no WiFi though... wtf

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WiFi is now working!

frank steeple Mar 15, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Yay!

round coyote Mar 15, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Which distro is that?

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Looks familiar

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I bricked mine tho being a dummy

fallow belfry Mar 15, 2021, 11:55 PM

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Ubuntu, pretty common distro

zinc harness Mar 16, 2021, 12:23 AM

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I bricked mine too the first time... took me 6 hours to figure out how to fix it on my own because I tried looking up how to fix it and there was nothing online I asked here don’t remember if I got responses or not then I also asked on the LTT forum

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But then I gave up on waiting and started messing with it myself and fixed it

simple acorn Mar 16, 2021, 2:54 PM

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how do u install Ubuntu

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and like, what's the limits

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can you still install the same stuff as win10?

slender mulch Mar 16, 2021, 2:55 PM

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not usually

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depends tho

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why are you trying to use linux in a desktop environment tho?

simple acorn Mar 16, 2021, 2:55 PM

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slender mulch why are you trying to use linux in a desktop environment tho?

better for coding

slender mulch Mar 16, 2021, 2:55 PM

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alright

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if you say so

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look back in general chat tho

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some people are answering your questions

zinc harness Mar 16, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Is it possible for me to download an app to change the RGB of my Corsair keyboard and Razer mouse?

zinc harness Mar 16, 2021, 5:15 PM

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I use Ubuntu

fallow belfry Mar 16, 2021, 5:37 PM

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zinc harness Is it possible for me to download an app to change the RGB of my Corsair keyboar...

OpenRGB has linux binaries available

zinc harness Mar 16, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Alright thanks

fallow belfry Mar 16, 2021, 5:38 PM

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https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB/uploads/575b979bff2ecbcb93d7cbbd4d9f8b52/openrgb_0.5_amd64_88464d1.deb

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Give that a try, no guarantees it will work but could be your best shot

zinc harness Mar 16, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Alright thanks

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I tried it but nothing popped up

dusk kernel Mar 16, 2021, 6:43 PM

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simple acorn can you still install the same stuff as win10?

It depends on what you mean by "stuff." E.g., if you mean "Microsoft Office," the answer is no. However if you mean "an office suite," the answer is "Yes, there's Libre Office, which may or may not meet your needs, but can open and work with most MS Office file formats."

frank steeple Mar 17, 2021, 1:40 AM

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slender mulch if you say so

It is better for coding. Setting up dev environments in windows sucks

humble kindle Mar 17, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Idk, visual studio is pretty great as well as anything by jetbrains ime

night charm Mar 17, 2021, 2:35 AM

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frank steeple It is better for coding. Setting up dev environments in windows _sucks_

typing python into powershell opens the windows store kekw

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and dont even get me started on pip

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powershell on windows*

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forgot that its on linux now too :P

frank steeple Mar 17, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Visual Studio is all fine and dandy until you need to install another library that they don't supply, or need to use anything besides the supported build chain

sleek halo Mar 17, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Personally I only like Pycharm for python but Visual Studio is great for other things

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I have Visual Studio Enterprise through college

night charm Mar 17, 2021, 1:09 PM

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i use intellij for java, and visual studio for everything else

frank steeple Mar 17, 2021, 1:48 PM

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I just use visual studio code for everything

zinc harness Mar 17, 2021, 2:51 PM

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How can I manually install this? I’m having issues with my WiFi again

simple acorn Mar 17, 2021, 3:45 PM

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frank steeple I just use visual studio code for everything

visual studio is on Linux right

frank steeple Mar 17, 2021, 3:49 PM

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No, just visual studio code

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Visual studio doesn't work

simple acorn Mar 17, 2021, 3:50 PM

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frank steeple Visual studio doesn't work

what softwares could I use for c++ and python

frank steeple Mar 17, 2021, 3:51 PM

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vscode

fallow belfry Mar 17, 2021, 5:48 PM

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zinc harness How can I manually install this? I’m having issues with my WiFi again

I'd start by opening the readme with a text editor

zinc harness Mar 17, 2021, 5:49 PM

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I did didn’t really help

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And it’s fixed now after restarting 6 times…

fallow belfry Mar 17, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Huh. Well Linux has always had a complicated relationship with wifi

zinc harness Mar 17, 2021, 5:49 PM

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As I’ve heard…

mortal totem Mar 17, 2021, 6:15 PM

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ROFLEgg

brave isle Mar 18, 2021, 1:49 PM

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steveconfused

slender mulch Mar 18, 2021, 1:49 PM

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mortal totem Mar 18, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Linux life

sleek halo Mar 18, 2021, 2:21 PM

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lmao

dusk kernel Mar 18, 2021, 7:14 PM

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slender mulch

While I do understand that it was meant to be funny (and it is), and I also understand that some aspects of Linux are a PITA (1) ... the problem wasn't "linux"... it was "lack of preparation for class." 🙂

(1) cough-cough-wifi-cough-cough

slender mulch Mar 18, 2021, 7:14 PM

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heh

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'Twas but a joke, my friend

dusk kernel Mar 18, 2021, 7:14 PM

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And I ~~said ~~ acknowledged that already.

slender mulch Mar 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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mhmm

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sure did

tropic thunder Mar 19, 2021, 6:46 PM

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slender mulch

Glad to see this is still going around 😊

slender mulch Mar 19, 2021, 6:46 PM

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I had it saved from a while ago

fading robin Mar 20, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Looking to make a dual boot system with windows. Thinking it will be best to get another drive for it any suggestions for what to put Linux on

fallow belfry Mar 20, 2021, 9:19 PM

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fading robin Looking to make a dual boot system with windows. Thinking it will be best to get...

TBH any drive will do, Linux isn't picky. You could even use a USB 3.0 flash drive. It doesn't use tons of space like Windows does either. I have my full Linux installation running on a 32GB partition and it's not even 25% full.

frank steeple Mar 20, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Yeah, as long as all you want to do is mess around then depending on what distro you want 16gb is enough

night charm Mar 20, 2021, 9:30 PM

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i use a 200gb partition on my 2tb hdd for linux dual boot

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but like bob said, you really only need 16gb if all youre doing is messing around and dependin on the distro

bright shell Mar 21, 2021, 1:37 AM

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Time for an adventure with a Raspberry Pi

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Trying to see if I can make a Raspberry Pi work as a Fire TV Stick replacement.

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Hopefully Kodi addons support Hulu Live in some capacity.

bright shell Mar 21, 2021, 2:52 AM

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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Apparently Kodi banned the repo that held the Kodi addons for Hulu Live and Netflix and stuff, and then on top of that they probably got DMCA'd.

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Yeah, netflix on linux can be a pain

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:22 AM

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Not if you use Firefox or Chrome. It used to be a lot more of a pain.

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:23 AM

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I thought firefox still didn't work with it

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:24 AM

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You just need to enable DRM content

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Netflix uses HTML5 now by default

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Chrome works out of the box, Firefox you just need to set one option

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:25 AM

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Hmm, interesting

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I tried firefox and chromium just a few weeks ago and neither worked

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Chromium is a very different animal.

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Yes, but firefox at least should have worked if it's pure html5

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:26 AM

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You still need to enable DRM though

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:26 AM

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I did

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:27 AM

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It works fine on mine last I checked

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:27 AM

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Odd

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I wonder if I'm just missing a codec or somesuch

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Maybe, what distro? I'm using Mint

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It gives you an option to install the non-free codecs when you install

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Both debian and alpine didn't work

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:31 AM

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Pure debian? Not surprised there. Never used Apline personally.

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:31 AM

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what do you mean not surprised?

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I'm surprised it didn't work

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:33 AM

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I mean it doesn't really include a lot of extras like this

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:34 AM

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It's the same basic set of repos. Sure it doesn't come with them installed, but you can't preinstall everything

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:36 AM

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You need to add the non-free and contrib repositories, then the easiest way is to install vlc with the optional dependencies to get all the codecs

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:37 AM

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I have non free and contrib, with vlc installed

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:39 AM

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With optionals?

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Then it should have worked, idk what to tell you

frank steeple Mar 21, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Yup

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Like I said, not sure why it didn't work

fallow belfry Mar 21, 2021, 4:44 AM

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Yeah just opened Netflix on my Mint system and it played no problem, no complaints

bright shell Mar 21, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Is it per-chance able to do 4K Netflix?

kind panther Mar 23, 2021, 11:35 AM

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fallow belfry Yeah just opened Netflix on my Mint system and it played no problem, no complain...

linux mint imo is one of the best distros.

night charm Mar 23, 2021, 3:31 PM

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frank steeple Mar 23, 2021, 4:03 PM

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yes

frank steeple Mar 24, 2021, 3:44 AM

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https://youtu.be/SYRlTISvjww

YouTube

SUSE

Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody)

"Uptime Funk" music video (parody of Uptown Funk) from SUSECon 2015 in Amsterdam.

Lyrics:
This bit
Uncontrolled
A bad bug,
Make my system fold
This bug, in the kernel
My kernel
My uptime ceases
Freakin’, Spazzin’
My manager’s mad, it ain’t pretty
I need caffeine, a big screen
Gotta fix this server in a jiffy

It’s too hot (hot patch)
Call Torv...

▶ Play video

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https://youtu.be/oHNKTlz1lps

YouTube

SUSE

Linus Said - Music Parody (Momma Said)

Linus Said - Musical Parody from SUSECON 2017

Parody of Lukas Graham's Momma Said

Story of the creation of Linux by Linus Torvalds

Filmed on location in Helsinki Finland
Filmed in part at Helsinki University at the University Museum

Vocals: Shaun Barrowes
Directed by: Russ Dastrup
Filming/Editing/Producing: Scott Dastrup
Audio Mastering: Sto...

▶ Play video

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The openSUSE team has some fun at times

brave isle Mar 25, 2021, 4:09 AM

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this is my channel now

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getfedora.org

humble kindle Mar 25, 2021, 4:23 AM

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nah

brave isle Mar 25, 2021, 5:45 AM

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hi, can anyone tell me how to get a clock widget on ubuntu 20.04 LTS Gnome?

frank steeple Mar 25, 2021, 5:48 AM

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brave isle getfedora.org

no

frank steeple Mar 25, 2021, 5:49 AM

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brave isle hi, can anyone tell me how to get a clock widget on ubuntu 20.04 LTS Gnome?

https://www.linuxuprising.com/2020/11/display-clock-ram-and-cpu-usage-as.html
How's this look?

Linux Uprising Blog

Display The Clock, RAM And CPU Usage As Circle Widgets On Your GNOM...

The Circle Widgets is a new GNOME Shell extension to show widgets on your desktop that display information like the CPU load, current RAM usage, and a

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I messed around with them for a bit a few months ago, they were pretty nice

brave isle Mar 25, 2021, 5:50 AM

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thanks for your help!

dusk kernel Mar 25, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Speaking of system monitor widgets 'n stuff... I'm looking for a system monitoring utility that runs on both Linux and Windows. I'm currently using gkrellm [http://gkrellm.srcbox.net/] but it's missing some functionality on Windows. E.g., if I recall correctly, it can't track temperatures. Does anyone use another system monitor utility that runs on both Linux and Windows?

fallow belfry Mar 25, 2021, 9:53 PM

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In my experience, cross platform stuff isn't the best. It tends to have fewer features overall, and certain features may not work at all like in your case.

dusk kernel Mar 26, 2021, 5:09 PM

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I don't disagree... but that's what I'm looking for because I have a dual-boot system. I'm hoping to have the same system monitor on both. Yeah, I know it's just a fantasy. heh heh

fallow belfry Mar 27, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Did you really just reply to a post almost 2 weeks old? Bruh

gaunt sparrow Mar 28, 2021, 3:52 AM

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aworryHeadbob

frank steeple Mar 28, 2021, 4:55 AM

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He did

dusk kernel Mar 28, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Wow... That's almost impressive. 😉

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Whew... I'm getting closer and closer to having this dual-boot system configured. Wheeeee! heh heh

mortal hare Mar 28, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Meanwhile im trying pop os
Its great but i gotta figure out how to install grub, usually the installer does it for you but with pop nope

dusk kernel Mar 28, 2021, 6:57 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLOZfT0732Y

YouTube

The IT Guy

Install GRUB on POP!_OS 20.04

Extensive tutorials, like the commands used in my videos, are on my website.
You can also support me there!
https://itguyherbert.com/ - Just type video title in search to find the tutorials.
If you want to support me, you can buy computer stuff on Amazon or software on kinguin via my affiliate links above or directly via Ko-Fi.

BTC Address:
1Ne...

▶ Play video

fallow belfry Mar 28, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Grub is easy but I like burg to be different

dusk kernel Mar 28, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Be even more different... go retro and use LILO. 😉

fallow belfry Mar 28, 2021, 7:02 AM

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I did try lilo once, didn't like it

dusk kernel Mar 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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I think LILO was the only option when I first started linuxing.

frank steeple Mar 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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mortal hare Meanwhile im trying pop os Its great but i gotta figure out how to install grub,...

It doesn't?

dusk kernel Mar 28, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Oooh... I thought Pop OS didn't install a bootloader... but it installs systemd-boot rather than GRUB.

frank steeple Mar 28, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Ah, okay

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 4:53 PM

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any cool stuff I can self host with a Linux server?

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I'm finally getting around to fixing my old frankestein monster laptop server (new SSD) and honestly IDK what to put on it besides a Minecraft server and Mathics.

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One thing I'm looking to do is have a network drive I can access from anywhere. atm it's a USB HDD plugged into my router, and I can access it from my home network. It'd be nice to be able to pull files off/on it from my phone tho.

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 6:12 PM

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minecraft server is fun to host

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aaaaaaa i want a server pc

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it would be perfect right now

zinc harness Mar 28, 2021, 6:36 PM

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I’d like one but my mom won’t even allow me to have access to the router so I can portforward

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It was only going to be a server for me and a few friends so I knew it would be mostly safe

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 6:48 PM

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night charm aaaaaaa i want a server pc

I simply tore apart an old laptop and strapped a desktop cooler to it

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It's got an AMD A10 cpu, 8GB DDR3, gigabit ethernet, and as of tomorrow an SSD.

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 6:49 PM

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hmmmmm do i have any worthy old laptops.....

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ok i think i have one but it needs an ssd

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 6:50 PM

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the fan power is so cursed lol

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 6:50 PM

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kekw

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 6:51 PM

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The fan is 4-pin but there's only a 3-pin fan header. So instead I run it at full blast by hijacking the SATA 12V power.

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I wish the CPU was OCable... would have so much potential lol

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What are some other cool things I could host on this?

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:11 PM

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@finite cargo you could try hosting a web page, that could be fun to learn

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Minecraft Classic 😳

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https://github.com/RealTheSunCat/Minecraft-Classic-Reversed

GitHub

RealTheSunCat/Minecraft-Classic-Reversed

classic.minecraft.net reversed. Contribute to RealTheSunCat/Minecraft-Classic-Reversed development by creating an account on GitHub.

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~~I could host GPT-2~~

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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oh my god

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ive been looking for this

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thank you @finite cargo

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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What'd I do?

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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i tried reversing the website myself

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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:o

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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the github page LOL

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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My version is pretty bad haha

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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now i can play minecraft on my chromebook at school

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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But thanks :)

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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ill have to test later

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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How does one run a simple http server on Linux btw?

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I only ever figured out how to host this on my Windows machine.

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:24 PM

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uhhhhh i use xampp on windows

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:24 PM

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I use this. No idea how it got on my PC but it works.

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:24 PM

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ooh its available for linux too

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:24 PM

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*writing down notes*

night charm Mar 28, 2021, 7:24 PM

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https://www.apachefriends.org/index.html

XAMPP Installers and Downloads for Apache Friends

XAMPP is an easy to install Apache distribution containing MariaDB, PHP and Perl.

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and if youre on arch

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https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xampp/

AUR (en) - xampp

A stand-alone LAMPP distribution

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:25 PM

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I am but a simple Pop OS user.

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Actually, does this work? http://kokiri.us.to/

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Just Windows IIS ^

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 7:49 PM

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I seem to have a remarkable affinity for killing conversations.

rustic stump Mar 28, 2021, 9:08 PM

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just a windows gang trying to see what linux gang do

finite cargo Mar 28, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Don't mind me, just hosting Minecraft Classic on Windows in the #linux-and-android chat.

night charm Mar 29, 2021, 6:58 PM

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk701?rtc=1&activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Microsoft Store

Get Windows Terminal - Microsoft Store

Download this app from Microsoft Store for Windows 10. See screenshots, read the latest customer reviews, and compare ratings for Windows Terminal.

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microsoft sure does know how to make a trailer for a terminal application lol...

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i love how it has an ESRB rating

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ok this is kind of nice

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i only mention this in the linux channel because its crazy how much microsoft is letting linux into wndows

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in the trailer they even advertise the ability to open a ubuntu vm

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or opensuse

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and you can just flat out download ubuntu from the windows store now

fallow belfry Mar 29, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Isn't that version of Ubuntu in the store text only or something? Not really a problem for the likes of us, but kind of a pain still.

night charm Mar 29, 2021, 8:01 PM

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yes

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its through command line

zealous lantern Mar 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

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Admittedly, I'd prefer to run Win10 and an Ubuntu flavor on separate SSD.

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It's my preferred way of handling partitions.

kind panther Mar 30, 2021, 2:30 AM

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fallow belfry Isn't that version of Ubuntu in the store text only or something? Not really a p...

CLI only.

kind panther Mar 30, 2021, 2:30 AM

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zealous lantern It's my preferred way of handling partitions.

Its everyone's preferred way to doing it

zealous lantern Mar 30, 2021, 2:45 AM

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Nice!

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I didn't realize it was common.

fallow belfry Mar 30, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Dual boot is the way to go if you plan to use it more than once

zinc harness Mar 30, 2021, 3:17 AM

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So I use parsec on my desktop to control it from my laptop would it be possible to turn off my PC and boot into Linux if I have windows as my main boot drive without having access to the PC?

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I have parsec for both Linux and Windows btw and I think I have it configured to open on its own in Linux

frank steeple Mar 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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fallow belfry Isn't that version of Ubuntu in the store text only or something? Not really a p...

You can get gui running, just not out of the box

finite cargo Mar 30, 2021, 10:48 AM

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I don't think Parsec supports hosting on Linux?

zinc harness Mar 30, 2021, 12:20 PM

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It should it’s on their website but I haven’t tried using it yet

zealous lantern Mar 30, 2021, 11:58 PM

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I've also heard I can make use of my old PC for a server if I needed one. Is this correct?

frank steeple Mar 31, 2021, 5:11 AM

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That is correct

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Any computing device can theoretically be used as a server

rustic stump Apr 1, 2021, 6:09 PM

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night charm

this is why windows is superior

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windows adopt

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you can even add newtab ubuntu there

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and ubuntu folder now are located at network path

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drag and drop go brr

dusk kernel Apr 2, 2021, 4:14 PM

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rustic stump this is why windows is superior

That doesn't make Windows superior though. Linux devs could/would create something similar using Windows functionality within Linux, but I suspect Microsoft licensing terms don't allow it.

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I'm trying to think of a good analogy... but... didn't have time for coffee this morning. LOL I think this works though. It's easier to add open sourced functionality to a closed source application/OS than it is to add closed source functionality to an open source application/OS. That's got nothing to do with quality of features... that's legal stuff.

rustic stump Apr 2, 2021, 4:17 PM

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xD its a meme chill

dusk kernel Apr 2, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Oh, I'm definitely chill. Well... except for the lack of coffee. LOL But... hey if you're going to say that something makes Windows superior... here in #linux-and-android ... you should expect at the very least to get some good-natured teasing. LOL

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 5:20 PM

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dusk kernel I'm trying to think of a good analogy... but... didn't have time for coffee this...

You thinking of wine maybe?

dusk kernel Apr 2, 2021, 5:25 PM

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No, I'm definitely thinking about coffee. chuckle

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But later, I'll probably be thinking about whiskey. 😄

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Seriously though... I know you meant "WINE Is Not an Emulator." But I *think *what I said above makes my general point without getting bogged down in specifics of any one application.

fallow wolf Apr 2, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Hello! Quick question: can I have dual boot linux mint and windows 10 on differents ssd? My plan is just to have linux for now on my new machine. Then later when I can afford and GPU if prices go down (if that ever happens) install windows...

keen geyser Apr 2, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Yes

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:06 PM

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so,.

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hm

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@frank steeple how does one do that

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XD

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https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-update-kernel-ubuntu

Knowledge Base by phoenixNAP

Sofija Simic

How to Update Linux Kernel In Ubuntu | PhoenixNAP

The Linux kernel is the central core of the operating system. In this tutorial, you will learn How To Update Linux Kernel In Ubuntu.

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this okay?

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Yup. Use Option A on that site

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Hopefully that should get you to kernel 5.10

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:07 PM

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it stayed at 5.4

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Ah

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That's fun

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:08 PM

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hang on

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Wait, have you rebooted?

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:08 PM

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yeah no it went from Kernel: 5.4.0-67-generic

5.4.0-67-generic

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oh

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same

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hmmmmmmmm

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no hang on

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will do

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Yeah, you need to reboot for a kernel update to take place

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There are technically ways to apply live kernel patches, but it's a pain

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:10 PM

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yeah not worth it for me

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XD

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heh

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@frank steeple 5.4.0-70-generic

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it went to that

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from -67

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heh

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Darn

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Type in sudo apt install linux-image-5.1 and then hit tab twice

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What suggestions does it give?

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:13 PM

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ripe knotBOT Apr 2, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Dallas Powers#7668 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:13 PM

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oh you butt

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i was trying to make it easier

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XD

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it adds oem

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and that 5.10.0-10

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Pick whichever one has the biggest number after it and install that

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:15 PM

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linux-image-5.10.0-1019-oem

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Sounds good

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:15 PM

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installing now

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Install that and then reboot

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:16 PM

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rebooting

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it worked

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@frank steeple after reinsatlling

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bleh

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idk

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any ideas?\

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Did you run the sensors detection program?

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:34 PM

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yeah

frank steeple Apr 2, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Interesting

river island Apr 2, 2021, 10:38 PM

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i reinstalled too

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idk

frank steeple Apr 3, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Odd

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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downloaded kali

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its stuck like this

kind panther Apr 3, 2021, 2:54 AM

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kali on vms is wierd

river island Apr 3, 2021, 2:54 AM

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use a real distro

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😉

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jk

kind panther Apr 3, 2021, 2:55 AM

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why didnt you download the pre made virtualbox image tho?

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 2:56 AM

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wot

kind panther Apr 3, 2021, 3:00 AM

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thats an option on their downloads page

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kali linux virtualbox

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https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-vm-vmware-virtualbox-image-download/

Download Kali Linux Virtual Images | Offensive Security

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link

frank steeple Apr 3, 2021, 3:47 AM

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lament storm its stuck like this

Looks like you have windows as your host system? If so, check to see if hyper-v is enabled

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VirtualBox is currently incompatible with hyper-v

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 4:21 AM

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frank steeple Looks like you have windows as your host system? If so, check to see if hyper-v ...

how do i enable that

#

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@frank steeple

night charm Apr 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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hyper v is a windows feature

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check here

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that dialogue should pop up if you search this @lament storm

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keep virtualization on in bios

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VMWare also wont work under Hyper-V

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:10 AM

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night charm that dialogue should pop up if you search this <@!743318601146040350>

uhhhhhhhh

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night charm Apr 3, 2021, 5:24 AM

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oh you probably dont have win 10 pro

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hyper v is a win10pro feature

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so the virtualbox screen is just black?

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did you select the .iso file and make sure the boot order on the virtual machine is set to prioritize the virtual cd drive

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:32 AM

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night charm hyper v is a win10pro feature

oh yeah

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i have 10 home

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:32 AM

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night charm so the virtualbox screen is just black?

yes

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:32 AM

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night charm did you select the .iso file and make sure the boot order on the virtual machine...

yes

mossy flume Apr 3, 2021, 5:42 AM

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are you using an installer or a premade image

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:42 AM

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wdym

mossy flume Apr 3, 2021, 5:42 AM

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usually people use a prebuilt kali image, not install it from an iso

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:43 AM

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i installed oracle then put the iso file and that stuff

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oh0

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but this proccess worked on my old pc

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does amd 64 matter

mossy flume Apr 3, 2021, 5:53 AM

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depends how much ram you want it to have, amd64 will let you use more than 4gb (or is a bit more with pae?), x86 cant address as much. its probably what you want though

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maybe adjust settings?

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 5:53 AM

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2 gigs

fallow belfry Apr 3, 2021, 6:49 AM

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It really is better to use the image designed for virtual environments though
#linux-and-android message

mossy flume Apr 3, 2021, 6:49 AM

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^

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you can get an image already made, import it, and it will just run. correctly.

humble kindle Apr 3, 2021, 7:27 AM

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zach really earning his mod pay here

night charm Apr 3, 2021, 5:39 PM

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i barely did anything 😩

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 7:59 PM

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I fixed it lol

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:06 PM

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hey
im stuck idk where to start im in 2 mind of states whether i should i start kali or some other linux distro first

fallow belfry Apr 3, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Kali is meant for penetration testing. It's based on Debian, I'd go for that if you wanted that type of environment.

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:08 PM

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I said this in general already

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More or less

fallow belfry Apr 3, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Well you know what they say about great minds

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:09 PM

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My mind is not that great

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You don’t want my mind

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Trust me

fallow belfry Apr 3, 2021, 9:11 PM

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slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:12 PM

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I have a pillow with that quote on it

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I was in a Alice in Wonderland school musical back when I still could talk

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The pillow was a gift

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:25 PM

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fallow belfry Kali is meant for penetration testing. It's based on Debian, I'd go for that if ...

im starting with ubuntu

fallow belfry Apr 3, 2021, 9:25 PM

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That works. Just pick your favorite flavor. Mine is Mint if I want a GUI environment.

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:26 PM

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idk how linux works 1st day. umm whats mint im guessing its a linux distro

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Isn’t Mint that one that was made for Intel CPUs? Or is that Clear?

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:26 PM

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got my ubuntu running

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Nice

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What did you give the VM?

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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2gb ram 10gb storage and 4 cpus ig

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64mb graphics

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Nice

fallow belfry Apr 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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slender mulch Isn’t Mint that one that was made for Intel CPUs? Or is that Clear?

Mint runs better than Ubuntu on my Ryzen platform so prob Clear you're thinking of

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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oh

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i have intel

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Well that’s the thing

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Mint or Clear or whatever it was was made by Intel for Intel

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But runs better on Ryzen

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Ironically

frank steeple Apr 3, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Pretty much any linux distro will be fine on either AMD or Intel

slender mulch Apr 3, 2021, 10:00 PM

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Yeah of course

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Just thought it was funny that Intel made a distro just for themselves and people using Intel and it runs better (significantly so according to what I heard) on AMD

lament storm Apr 3, 2021, 10:35 PM

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okay

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 12:34 AM

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thoughts on pop os

frank steeple Apr 4, 2021, 12:46 AM

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It's nice

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:01 AM

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frank steeple It's nice

i need

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help i was messing around with proxy chains

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keep getting this cant edit the file

frank steeple Apr 4, 2021, 1:02 AM

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You need to be root to do that

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:03 AM

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how do i do that

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sudo

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yeah

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okay

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mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:04 AM

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/etc

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:04 AM

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this shows up sudo nano /etc/proxychains4.conf

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yeah

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:04 AM

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it looks like you missed the first /

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:05 AM

#

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ummm

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:05 AM

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the first file looked like /etc/proxychains4.conf i think you missed the 4 if thats what you wanted

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:06 AM

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i did not

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:06 AM

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tab complete 😦

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:06 AM

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i typed

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sudo /etc/proxychains4.conf

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this showed up then

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:07 AM

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the title looks like its using /etc/proxychains.conf

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:07 AM

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is okay

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i got i

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i did

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:07 AM

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you shouldnt have to type it, it should tab complete

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:07 AM

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vim /etc..

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wtv

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yeah

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i made the neccesary changes in the file how do i save it
ctrl + o isnt working

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:13 AM

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ctrl - x (to exit), y to confirm writing changes

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oh

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youre using vim

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:wq

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you were initially using nano

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:14 AM

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yah

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:14 AM

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:wq!

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:15 AM

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ppf

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oof

mossy flume Apr 4, 2021, 1:16 AM

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did you sudo vim /etc/proxychains4.conf

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 1:22 AM

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my head hurts

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yeah i did

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im lil smart i start the proxychains

lament storm Apr 4, 2021, 6:52 AM

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can i ask about bruteforce

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THE LEGAL WAY

fallow belfry Apr 4, 2021, 7:08 AM

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What about it?

frank steeple Apr 4, 2021, 5:12 PM

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You try all possible combinations. Not much more to say about it

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Ideally you set it up in such a way that you can use a GPU rather than a CPU

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Which is why crypto miners love GPUs so much

lament storm Apr 5, 2021, 12:44 AM

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ahh

lament storm Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 AM

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slender mulch Apr 5, 2021, 1:58 AM

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PopOS [EXPLETIVE ADJECTIVE REMOVED] nuked Mars lmao

ripe knotBOT Apr 5, 2021, 3:35 AM

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sx#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frank steeple Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Looks like 5.12 is back on track

grave canyon Apr 6, 2021, 5:25 AM

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I need info

rustic stump Apr 6, 2021, 5:44 AM

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paimon_warning

sick hazel Apr 8, 2021, 12:09 AM

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awesome

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Hello ppl! anyone knows how I can enable the integrated gpu on linux mint?

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 6:09 PM

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fallow wolf Hello ppl! anyone knows how I can enable the integrated gpu on linux mint?

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 6:30 PM

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fallow wolf Hello ppl! anyone knows how I can enable the integrated gpu on linux mint?

Do you have the non-free drivers installed?

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 6:48 PM

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fallow belfry Do you have the non-free drivers installed?

Hey @fallow belfry thank you again for helping! I dont think so. I'm trying to find out how can I check if I have them but so far I didn't find it yet.

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Check in driver manager, you'll find it under administration in the start menu I believe

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That's where the non-free drivers are found (typically video, but can be others)

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 6:49 PM

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fallow belfry Check in driver manager, you'll find it under administration in the start menu I...

my driver manager is empty

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fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Ok, I'll check for a precompiled deb package, worst case you might need to compile the module yourself

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 6:52 PM

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ok thank you @fallow belfry 👍

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Intel doesn't provide official precompiled packages, but it might be installed already.
In terminal:
lsmod | grep intel

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If it shows intel_agp or something along those lines the module is loaded, and you just need a program that will use it

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:09 PM

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fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Doesn't look like it is in there. Do you have the iGPU enabled in bios?

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Had to step away for a minute there, sorry @fallow wolf

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:26 PM

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no worries @fallow belfry I totally understand.

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:29 PM

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fallow belfry Doesn't look like it is in there. Do you have the iGPU enabled in bios?

if that is the IGD Multi-Monitor on the BIOS yes I enabled that.

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but would need to reboot to double check it. I need to push some code then Im going to be able to reboot. give me a moment @fallow belfry

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 7:30 PM

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What motherboard is it? Or what model if it's a prebuilt or laptop

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It sounds like MSI if it called it IGD specifically

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I found this, might be useful if that sounds like what you're doing
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=265946

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:45 PM

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fallow belfry What motherboard is it? Or what model if it's a prebuilt or laptop

is the MSI Z590-A PRO LGA 1200 Intel Z590

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Well the manual is totally useless for this. Not even any screenshots of bios.

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:50 PM

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jaja I took some pics

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give me second I need to past from my phone to my pc

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Anyway, I need to head out. Sorry I can't help more but I need to get to work. There's other linux people that can probably pick up from here.

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Thank you @fallow belfry I really appreciated it! Have a good day! 👍

fallow belfry Apr 8, 2021, 7:53 PM

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You too! If you don't get any help by the time I get a break I can help a little more then.

fallow wolf Apr 8, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Great! thank you again!! I would keep searching for some tips on google.

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I will keep you post!

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Also if you want power, you use Linux
Windows 10 doesn't handle power well
From #mac-os-and-ios

How is this the case? I put Linux on my Windows laptop and it seems the battery life is now 66% of what it was before. I've run tlp and done all the optimizations suggested by powertop.

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I'm not arguing against windows here, as Linux runs much better on this laptop (TP x240), but the battery life has been disappointing

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:17 PM

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finite cargo > Also if you want power, you use Linux > Windows 10 doesn't handle power well F...

Computational power, not battery power

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As for battery life, windows comes pre setup with a power manager, whereas Linux usually doesn't

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:19 PM

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ah

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:19 PM

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If you want to get some more battery life, install tlp and set up some power saving modes. If you really squeeze out the last bits of power, Linux can actually increase battery life

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Yeah Linux runs a lot better for most stuff I've tried

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:20 PM

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frank steeple If you want to get some more battery life, install tlp and set up some power sav...

Maybe I have tlp set up wrong? It doesn't seem to last very long but I don't have a good way to measure battery life since it's super inconsistent.

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:20 PM

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I think my old dell inspiron got 2-3 hours on windows, but I was able to get it to 4-5 after setting up power management

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:21 PM

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With the 24Wh internal battery and 24Wh external, it lasts about 1.5h off a full charge on Linux, with around 2.5h on Windows.

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:21 PM

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What configuration options did you give it?

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:22 PM

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I got so desperate that I bought the super heavy 72Wh external battery (paired with the 24Wh internal) and it only estimates 10h battery idle whilst Lenovo says it should last 15h or so with a load

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:22 PM

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This is a thinkpad? What model?

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:22 PM

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frank steeple What configuration options did you give it?

I don't remember, it's been a while. I can go get if if you can help me tho

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x240

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Okay

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My roommate was able to get about 24 hours out of that thing

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:23 PM

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https://your-face.is-ne.at/3efUlh.png wow

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With which battery?

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:23 PM

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The big one

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:23 PM

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45Wh or 72Wh?

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:23 PM

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72

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:24 PM

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ah. same one as the one I recently bought then

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:24 PM

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What distro are you running?

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Pop OS

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Does it have an nvidia GPU?

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I wouldn't mind switching but I heard it was good so I blindly trusted whatever forum post said that

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Nope. The x240 comes with a haswell i5 and that's it afaik. At least that's what my model has.

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Intel HD Graphics 4400

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Okay

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Should I go get it? It's three floors down lol

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:26 PM

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If you want max battery life, I'd go for a minimal distro. Debian is pretty nice if you want mainstream, arch is fun if you want to mess around

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I need it for school, so I need it to "feel" as nice as possible since I'm using it for many hours every day

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Not for devving so I'm not going to use something like i3.

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:27 PM

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For tlp settings, you'll pretty much want to lock your cpu clock to 800MHz on battery. Have it shut down any internals that aren't in use

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:27 PM

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I turned off the bluetooth card in BIOS, but that's about all I saw that was toggleable

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:28 PM

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If you want a floating windows manager, take a look at lxde or xfce

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:28 PM

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oo looks nice

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:29 PM

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If you don't need wifi at any given time, turn it off. It might also be worth changing the fan curves on battery power

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Also keep screen brightness low if you can stand it

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I'm very new to Linux so I'm not sure how window managers work. Is GNOME linked to my Pop OS install? I'm able to reinstall/install a different distro

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Gnome was installed by pop, yes

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When you install debian it gives you a list of windows managers to pick from, and it will set them up for you

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

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So I should use vanilla debian?

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Do you have a hard drive or an SSD?

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

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SSD

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Cool. That also helps with power

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

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I've upgraded all the internals I could (max RAM, SATA SSD)

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Also ordered a USB-C charger port so looking forward to that

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Debian is good for getting into minimal setups, if you end up enjoying it you can always distro hop again

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:32 PM

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fair

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Well alright, time to make a debian USB

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Okee dokie

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Make sure you get the non-free version

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:35 PM

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wdym?

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ah I see https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:36 PM

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For wifi drivers. The default one only includes foss software, which usually means no wifi

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:36 PM

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I'm a bit confused as to where to download these images

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Is this what I want? https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-10.9.0-amd64-lxde+nonfree.iso

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:38 PM

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https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
I'd go with this one

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:38 PM

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okay

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oof, are there any faster hosts? I'm on gigabit ethernet
https://your-face.is-ne.at/sbdLQz.png

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Maybe, idk

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Oh, are you downloading on windows or Linux?

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Windows

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My desktop runs Windows bc of VR

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Hmm, okay

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If it was Linux your network manager might not have been detecting the gigabit link

finite cargo Apr 9, 2021, 2:44 PM

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ah good to know

zinc harness Apr 9, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Btw is it possible to use the Oculus Quest 2 through Linux or do you have to use it through Windows?

frank steeple Apr 9, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Technically yes, but it's one of those things that's just much easier to use windows 10 for

zinc harness Apr 9, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Alright

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Just wasn’t sure since I noticed all my VR games say Windows only

dusk kernel Apr 11, 2021, 12:02 AM

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finite cargo I'm very new to Linux so I'm not sure how window managers work. Is GNOME linked ...

That's one of the cool things about Linux. You can choose from a variety of styles of GUI. E.g, KDE, Gnome, LXDE, XFCE, etc. Each will have a different balance between features and 'minimum hardware requirements.' Most distributions will have a default, but you can install several other GUI's, either instead of the default, or in addition to the default. E.g., Fedora comes with Gnome, but you can easily use KDE with Fedora.

If you aren't sure which GUI you want/like, I suggest you find some "Live" versions of distributions so you can see the GUI in action. I'm not trying to talk you into using Fedora, but it's what I use so I know that "Spins" exist and can easily find this URL 😄 ...
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

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Ubuntu (based on Debian) also uses Gnome for the default GUI, but I use "Kubuntu" on another machine. Look at the bottom right corner of this page for links to Ubuntu "flavors":
https://ubuntu.com/#download

Ubuntu

Enterprise Open Source and Linux | Ubuntu

Ubuntu is the modern, open source operating system on Linux for the enterprise server, desktop, cloud, and IoT.

finite cargo Apr 11, 2021, 12:10 PM

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dusk kernel That's one of the cool things about Linux. You can choose from a variety of styl...

Nice! Thanks for the explanation, I understand the difference now. I tried out LXDE and I wasn't really convinced by the looks. I ended up using Fedora with KDE actually lol, based on others' recommendations

dusk kernel Apr 11, 2021, 12:22 PM

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Welcome to the Fedora+KDE club! 😄

frank steeple Apr 11, 2021, 2:52 PM

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KDE meh

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Looks nice, but all the settings menus are a pain in the butt

dusk kernel Apr 11, 2021, 3:57 PM

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I doubt I'll disagree with you since simply having a lot of settings available can be a pain in the butt regardless which distro or GUI... but which menus are you referring to?

frank steeple Apr 11, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Just the settings menus in general

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The search hardly ever finds what you want, and the settings for various parts of KDE are fragmented across so many individual programs that you usually just have to google how to change something and hope you find something for your version of KDE

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'Cause the layout of the menus, what things are named, and even what menu or program a certain setting is in will change from version to version

finite cargo Apr 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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eh it's alright for me

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Mainly concerned with the few issues that have popped up that I was also having with Pop OS

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Any clue what could cause the touchpad + TrackPoint (the red nub thing) to stop working about 10% of the time I suspend the laptop?

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Back on pop, this could be fixed with rmprobe i2c-hid and then modprobe i2c-hid, but I'm having no such luck here

fallow wolf Apr 15, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Hey @fallow belfry quick update. Finally a Linux oem kernel update fixed the problem. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=346714

peak reef Apr 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Windows>Linux

tropic rampart Apr 15, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Linux is better for some things and Windows is better for others. One is not just simply better than the other.

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 5:08 AM

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peak reef Windows>Linux

Not really

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not at all

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windows better for gaming

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linux better for eerything else

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 6:38 AM

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peak reef Windows>Linux

Linux>Windows

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 6:56 AM

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brave isle Linux>Windows

again not true

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windows better than linux for a few things

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 6:57 AM

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FEW things

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I can play farming simulator on linux

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So im happy lol

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 6:57 AM

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if those few things are all you wnat to do on a pc then widows is far superior for your use no?

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 6:58 AM

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Linux is better, I have used it most of my life

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I know it better

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And it pisses me off less

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lol

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 6:59 AM

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so ur forcing your opinions on others without taking their opinions into account?

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thats dumb

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 6:59 AM

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a lot of corpo/business software does not run on linux. only built for windows.
nothing is "best", things have their own use cases. for you, linux may be the best for your use cases, but it isnt objectively better.

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:00 AM

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kind panther so ur forcing your opinions on others without taking their opinions into account...

no?

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I dont like Microsoft as a company for the most part, I dont want to give them my money, so i use linux

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And Linux is much easier to use

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 7:01 AM

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i would take linux over windows for about 80% of the things I do, but I NEED windows for the other 20%. And Id prefer osx to linux for most of the rest, or freebsd

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but why not have them all?

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Why OSX and freebsd?

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I mean BSD will do the same things as linux

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I mean I can understand OSX for art

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 7:02 AM

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osx has a much more developed ecosystem for full stack web development.
and for the reason you dislike windows, i dislike the gpl 🙂

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:02 AM

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Makes sense, why do you not like the GPL?

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I dont like richard stallman, he is a total degen

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 7:03 AM

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its viral nature. i dont think forcing me to release my software under the same license if i include gpl code is truly "free".

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 7:03 AM

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brave isle I dont like Microsoft as a company for the most part, I dont want to give them m...

thats a you problem not a windows problem

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 7:04 AM

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but again, thats personal preference

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 7:04 AM

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brave isle And Linux is much easier to use

windows has a way better UI for first time users and thats just a fact.

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 7:04 AM

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for pen testing work, kali is pretty much required. nothing is "best", it all has its own use case

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Windows is also kinda clunky, and Ubuntu is just as easy to LEARN as windows, just most people have used windows all their lives

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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cli which you pretty much need for linux is tough for most people especially first timers to understand

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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mossy flume its viral nature. i dont think forcing me to release my software under the same ...

makes sense

fallow belfry Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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If you want a Linux that looks like Windows there's always Mint

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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kind panther cli which you pretty much need for linux is tough for most people especially fir...

I dont think ubuntu, if done properly, needs cli

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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fallow belfry If you want a Linux that looks like Windows there's always Mint

indeed

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 7:05 AM

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brave isle I dont think ubuntu, if done properly, needs cli

100% does

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 7:06 AM

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?

kind panther Apr 16, 2021, 7:06 AM

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at some point point you need an app that isnt in the app store for the particular distro and you either need command line to add the source or straight up install the app

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 7:10 AM

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i would not recommend the average person use linux at its current state, just out of compatibility and support. it is great for its audience, but i cannot imagine handing my grandma any linux distro with any sort of wm and expecting to go a single day without having to do a support call to help.

windows is very easy for the average person because its easy to find help when youre stuck.

linux is great for what it is, but it is not the same level of user friendly as stuff built by hundred billion dollar companies and 10 figure ux budgets

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that said, i would also not advise an aspiring developer to learn in windows, and a linux vm or partition is significantly cheaper than a macbook 🙂

balmy portal Apr 16, 2021, 9:17 AM

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every operating system has their own advantage and disadvantage, no one can say "windows is the best" or "linux is the best" becuase everybody does diffrent things and everybody expect diffrenet things from an operating system.
i think:
windows is better for gaming
linux is easier to use(for example:there is no need to install bunch of drivers)
windows has better stability
linux is better for privacy
linux is faster
everything is your control in linux
windows is more user frindly
linux is better for customizing
linux looks better than windows if you use a good looking desktop enviromint
and linux is more secure

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btw i use windows

balmy portal Apr 16, 2021, 9:20 AM

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mossy flume i would not recommend the average person use linux at its current state, just ou...

i think linux is better for your grandma if your grandma only use web browser

night charm Apr 16, 2021, 1:38 PM

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undeniable benefit

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Responding to a couple of things that @balmy portal listed above...

Windows is not "better for gaming." I strongly suspect that more games are developed for Windows than for Linux due to market share of the OS, not due to the "quality" of the OS. It's more accurate to say "more games are available for Windows" and I suspect that's what was meant anyway.

Whether either OS "looks better" is very subjective. Linux probably does offer more options, but that also gives you more options for making your GUI really ugly. chuckle

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 6:19 PM

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mossy flume i would not recommend the average person use linux at its current state, just ou...

I would argue the exact opposite if you're sitting someone who's never used a computer before in front of a computer with Windows versus one with Linux - Linux with KDE or something is far more intuitive.

Linux is only harder to use for people who have prior experience with Windows and thus expect it to behave like Windows does.

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 6:21 PM

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dusk kernel Responding to a couple of things that <@!449851468409864194> listed above... Wi...

Tests have actually had Windows-native games running better on Linux through Proton, so you're almost certainly correct.

It's also objective fact that Linux offers far more options for customizing its appearance. An "icon theme" on Windows basically means one of:

Manually changing the icons one at a time using Properties
Taking a set of icons and overwriting the icons in system32.

On Linux, an icon theme is a drop down selection.

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Idk, Im not sure Id want to hand someone something like a new printer and expect them to figure out setting that up on something besides windows

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its not necessarily a comment on the OS itself but rather the ease of use due to the support companies provide its users

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 6:22 PM

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mossy flume Idk, Im not sure Id want to hand someone something like a new printer and expect...

If the printer supports networking, it's easier to setup on Linux... but I wouldn't trust your average user to setup a printer on Windows either.

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 6:24 PM

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like I have never once seen an included user manual with any product include setup instructions for anything besides windows and osx

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and that is a serious detriment to users with no technical literacy

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windows is absolutely not "better" than linux because of this, its just it has been developed more thoroughly for that use case.

windows is absolutely garbage to develop a lot of software on

there is a tool for each job and its important to recognize and evaluate them on a per job basis

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 6:30 PM

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mossy flume like I have never once seen an included user manual with any product include set...

But that's not the fault of the OS, that's another example of a manufacturer choosing to only support the most widely-used OS's.

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 6:31 PM

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but when picking an os, the user has to consider "what is supported in this environment" compared to what they want to do as a determining factor for using it. Its not the fault of the os, but it does make it unusable for them.

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so to those users linux absolutely is not better for what they want to do.

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there is no objectively better os because it has to be situational

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Not really.

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Your average tech illiterate user isn't going to be able to setup a printer for a Windows computer either. They're going to call a family member to set it up for them.

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I should know, as I've done it for loads of people.

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Yes, fair point. the use case scenario is important to consider. There have been plenty of situations where I used to work where I knew Linux could fill a certain need, but I didn't suggest that option because I knew the company wouldn't be able to get support if I weren't there. Not that support wasn't out there... I just knew that the people involved weren't tech-savvy enough to handle that situation.

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 6:34 PM

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plenty of people read the booklet or call the support line; the support line is generally not going to be trained to handle those requests

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 6:36 PM

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I feel like we're all saying the same basic thing... neither OS is "better"... we're just pointing out differing justifications for that basic premise. chuckle

mossy flume Apr 16, 2021, 6:36 PM

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🙂

brave isle Apr 16, 2021, 6:38 PM

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is this for the linux tech tips fans?

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Linux IS an objectively better OS than Windows in and of itself though; it's more secure, more stable (unless you're using a rolling release distro like I do), easier to install and update applications on, supports more hardware out of the box without the need for external drivers, has much better support for software development, is more customizable and far easier to customize the appearance of to the user's preference, uses less resources, performs better, is much easier to configure scheduled jobs on, etc.

It's simply not supported because it has 1% market share, but it has 1% market share because it's not supported.

Modern Linux desktop environments are arguably more intuitive than Windows as well. It's certainly easier to find settings in KDE's settings menu than it is in Windows where the setting may be in Control Panel, may be in the Settings app, or may be in the Local Users and Groups tool, etc.

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Scroll up to April 11, there's a dissenting opinion about KDE settings. 😄 If the search functionality works for settings and I can find the setting I want that way, I don't care how badly they're arranged for browsing purposes. But I concede that browsing a settings tree, menu, hierarchy, etc. is still important for those who don't yet know what word(s) to search for.

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 6:59 PM

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That's a separate thing. As far as I know you can't search for all Windows settings from the Start Menu either. You would have to open Settings and search there, open Control Panel search there, etc.

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I just search for settings in KDE if I'm using that too. I never browse trees in anything anymore.

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 7:03 PM

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I don't have a great example to test, but I think that with Win10 if you search for a setting, it'll give results that include both the Settings app and Control Panel. But it still requires some experience to know which option to pick from the search results.

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Possible. I have not really been impressed with the search in Windows 10. It does what I need it to do, but usually I feel I have to be way more specific than I should have to be.

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Windows Explorer recognizes Boolean search terms... why have I never thought to check for that ability in Dolphin? LOL

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Example? like == something boolean?

dusk kernel Apr 16, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Boolean like... "this AND that".... you can use AND, OR, and I think NOT with your search terms. This works in Windows Explorer and in Outlook... and probably anything else search-related in Win10.

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 7:27 PM

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OH yeah

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I knew that

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I haven't tried something like that in a Linux file manager... if I'm trying to find something I normally use GNU find

night charm Apr 16, 2021, 8:43 PM

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dusk kernel Responding to a couple of things that <@!449851468409864194> listed above... Wi...

windows comes with DRM; its harder to copy and illegally redistribute software/games

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that and marketshare i guess

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since linux ethos is free open source software, it doesnt have DRM

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but guess what companies want

ripe knotBOT Apr 16, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Xyn#9863 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Ugh.

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DRM is about pointless as well. It's just a pain for law abiding people and stops nothing piracy wise.

tight eagle Apr 16, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Companies are inherently sadistic bbnohappy

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Hell, I have to strip the DRM out of the Amazon books I legally bought before I can import them into Calibre to convert them into a format that doesn't suck, along with being able to download metadtaa and covers, etc.

fallow belfry Apr 16, 2021, 9:58 PM

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worn notch DRM is about pointless as well. It's just a pain for law abiding people and stop...

The anti piracy software usually holds back the cracking teams long enough for the essential launch weeks/month of a game to pass, when the vast majority of sales happen.

worn notch Apr 16, 2021, 9:59 PM

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fallow belfry The anti piracy software usually holds back the cracking teams long enough for t...

This assumes that not being able to pirate it for a month or two is going to force pirates to buy it. The kind of people who were going to pirate things - and not just pirate it to try it out since Demos barely exist anymore - usually either aren't going to pay for it, or they can't pay for it because there's no legal way to obtain it digitally in their country (e.g., expect piracy of PS3 / PSP / Vita games to go up after Sony kills those stores). Period.

fallow belfry Apr 16, 2021, 10:01 PM

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The people that weren't going to pay for it anyway are the opposite of the target market

worn notch Apr 17, 2021, 3:25 PM

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fallow belfry The people that weren't going to pay for it anyway are the opposite of the targe...

Yet they are exactly the target market for the DRM. Publishers think if they put DRM in something, people who pirate it will be forced to buy it. Nope.

sharp iron Apr 18, 2021, 8:20 PM

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It’s pretty sad nobody talks abt slackware anymore

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My machine is dualbooted w it but I mainly use it in a VM

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Slackware for best distro 202-

river island Apr 18, 2021, 8:29 PM

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no

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best distro is hannah montana linux

sharp iron Apr 19, 2021, 1:02 AM

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river island best distro is hannah montana linux

That state aint good enough

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Montana WISHES i was there

wet vortex Apr 19, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Hey guys!

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Somebody knows how to burn Linux mint into an USB in Windows 10?

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Trying to make dual-booting but without harming the system in any way

night charm Apr 19, 2021, 11:18 AM

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wet vortex Somebody knows how to burn Linux mint into an USB in Windows 10?

use Balena Etcher, free download and should pop up on google

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then just download the .iso from linux mint website

fallow belfry Apr 19, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Ventoy also seems to work well from my testing, just let it set up the USB and place the ISO files directly into the partition

humble kindle Apr 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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lili and a few others I know recommend http://www.winsetupfromusb.com/downloads/ as well, I haven't tried either

WinSetupFromUSB

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Downloads

Here you can download WinSetupFromUSB and updates of the tools included. Please do not hotlink files, use this page if you want to post a link to the program. If you need to link to a specific vers…

kind panther Apr 20, 2021, 5:24 AM

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night charm use Balena Etcher, free download and should pop up on google

Etcher doesnt make linux mint bootable iirc

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Rufus is best for mint

kind panther Apr 20, 2021, 5:24 AM

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wet vortex Somebody knows how to burn Linux mint into an USB in Windows 10?

Rufus

civic steeple Apr 20, 2021, 5:57 AM

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I also use Rufus

exotic portal Apr 20, 2021, 2:51 PM

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kind panther Rufus is best for mint

Rufus is a nice and simple "no fuss" tool

kind panther Apr 20, 2021, 3:46 PM

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exotic portal Rufus is a nice and simple "no fuss" tool

way faster than unetbootin as well

exotic portal Apr 20, 2021, 3:47 PM

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oh yes

upper valve Apr 20, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Ayyy, cool, we have a penguin community here!

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I started my journey this December, went with Ubuntu, and AwesomeWM. Decided if I was going Linux, I'd go whole hog. I am thinking about studying for sysadmin.

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Has anyone here taken that? I would love to have a study partner, lmao.

frank steeple Apr 21, 2021, 2:10 AM

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upper valve I started my journey this December, went with Ubuntu, and AwesomeWM. Decided if...

Which cert?

upper valve Apr 21, 2021, 3:22 AM

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I guess I was looking at LFCS (Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator), but there is also CompTIA Linux +.

brave isle Apr 21, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Hey Guys, I am going to take off of work for about 3 months and really focus on personal development. I am studying for my OSCP and plan on taking it the by the end of the second month. Anyone have any experience with the test? Any path I should take when studying for this?

mossy flume Apr 21, 2021, 7:48 PM

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did you already do the pwk course with labs etc

frank steeple Apr 22, 2021, 3:26 PM

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dusk kernel Apr 22, 2021, 5:02 PM

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The story behind the previous graphic... Wow....
https://www.zdnet.com/article/greg-kroah-hartman-bans-university-of-minnesota-from-linux-development-for-deliberately-buggy-patches/

ZDNet

Greg Kroah-Hartman bans University of Minnesota from Linux developm...

Some researchers tried to slip bad patches into the Linux kernel as a "test." When they kept trying, Greg Kroah-Hartman, the Linux kernel maintainer for the stable branch, put an end to their efforts.

mossy flume Apr 24, 2021, 6:37 AM

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its all kinds of messed up

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:35 AM

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@frank steeple so i found out its 5.12 that adds support for ryzen 5000 series sensors

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the kernel

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https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

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but kinda shouldnt install

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its rc

frank steeple Apr 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Correct

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It should get a full release this Sunday

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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awesome

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and how was it that we updated before?

frank steeple Apr 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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What distro do you have?

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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ubuntu

frank steeple Apr 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Ubuntu will probably be a week or so before it's in the repo

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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20.04

frank steeple Apr 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Maybe a bit longer then

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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i mean

frank steeple Apr 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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You could always install manually but that's not great

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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we are using 5.10 and theres 5.11

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what were the commands to do it?

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using apt get?

frank steeple Apr 25, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Yup

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apt get install linux-image-5.whatever

river island Apr 25, 2021, 12:40 AM

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alrighty thank you

brave isle Apr 26, 2021, 4:10 PM

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hi to all, i'm a new user and i'd like to share and learn from linux mint edition cinnamon and thanks for all

steep axle Apr 27, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Happy day Friends 🙃🙃

peak reef Apr 27, 2021, 12:15 PM

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steep axle Happy day Friends 🙃🙃

It’s Tuesday it’s not that happy Cringe

signal sinew Apr 27, 2021, 2:23 PM

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how do i get linux

keen geyser Apr 27, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Download and install it just like Windows

mortal totem Apr 27, 2021, 2:31 PM

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https://distrowatch.com

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pick a distro any distro

south bluff Apr 27, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Tux

night charm Apr 27, 2021, 5:04 PM

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sudo pacman -S linux linux-firmware

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wait nvm im dumb

mortal totem Apr 27, 2021, 5:08 PM

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go to windows store

night charm Apr 27, 2021, 5:10 PM

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kekw kekw

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they have linux on the windows store but not visual studio or vscode

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kekw kekw kekw kekw kekw kekw

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nice job microsoft

river island Apr 27, 2021, 5:42 PM

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so from the looks of google and such ubuntu wont get kernel version 5.12 for a while

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Yeah, it might be a while, especially for 20.04

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There's always the option of adding their testing repositories, and you can always install manually

river island Apr 27, 2021, 6:36 PM

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@frank steeple is there another sensors:?

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its still not picking up

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i updated to 21.04

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i updated sensors detect

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and still doesnt work

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Does 21.04 have 5.12 yet?

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It just got released two days ago after all

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yes

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i thought it was 5.12

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:19 PM

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That is 5.12

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:19 PM

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also

ripe knotBOT Apr 27, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Dallas Powers#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Run sudo sensors-detect, and then just sensors. It shouldn't need sudo when checking temps

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:21 PM

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i did

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thats the freaking issue

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lol

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:21 PM

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What options did you use in sensors-detect?

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:22 PM

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📎 message.txt

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:23 PM

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I would recommend selecting yes for all of the options

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:23 PM

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how

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selective?

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Type in yes when it prompts you

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:23 PM

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kk

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Also make sure that the nct6775 kernel module is loaded

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:26 PM

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📎 message.txt

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@frank steeple its been there

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Can you verify that it actually gets loaded real quick?

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:28 PM

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how

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:28 PM

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grep the output from lsmod for it

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:29 PM

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huh

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📎 message.txt

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these?

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linux-headers-5.12.0-051200-generic package

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ismissing

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o.o

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idk

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everything seems to not work

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idk why sensors wants to be evil

frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Try one last thing. Run echo "alias sensors='sensors 2>/dev/null'" >>~/.bashrc and then restart your terminal

river island Apr 27, 2021, 7:50 PM

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did that

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what now

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The hardware monitoring (HWMON) subsystem updates were sent in this morning for the just-opened Linux 5.12 merge window. There is now Zen 3 desktop CPU temperature monitoring support within the existing k10temp driver. The patch just needed to add the IDs for the Zen 3 parts to the k10temp driver while the rest is unchanged. The two line patch didn't come from AMD but a community developer and has been verified to work on the Ryzen 5800X / 5900X / 5950X processors to provide correct CPU temperature monitoring.

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frank steeple Apr 27, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Looks reasonable

wild totem Apr 28, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I am thinking of turning my old pc into a retro console with batocera. The issue is that I don't know if it needs gpu or not.

tight eagle Apr 28, 2021, 2:34 AM

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what cpu does it have

wild totem Apr 28, 2021, 2:38 AM

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It has intel Pentium e2180

dusk kernel Apr 28, 2021, 1:44 PM

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frank steeple grep the output from lsmod for it

@river island You may know this but just in case, this is the command @frank steeple was suggesting:
$ lsmod | grep nct6775
That's pretty handy when looking for specific modules in a really long list.

frank steeple Apr 28, 2021, 1:59 PM

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wild totem I am thinking of turning my old pc into a retro console with batocera. The issue...

Depends on how retro you want it

wild totem Apr 28, 2021, 2:27 PM

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I will play mostly snes games.

tribal torrent Apr 28, 2021, 4:25 PM

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I am not affiliated with this video, just here to get a chuckle https://youtu.be/nUsDk8wjRPs

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obtuse bridge Apr 28, 2021, 5:06 PM

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hi guys I'm not sure if this is the place to ask this if not I apologise. A windows laptop wont boot up. I'm thinking about using a Linux live usb to see if i could retrieve my files. 1) is this possible 2) which linux os would you recommend?

night charm Apr 28, 2021, 5:09 PM

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@obtuse bridge yes

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at least, i think linux can read NTFS file types

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as for which distro... something small would be good so you can just boot from the usb and do that easy

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maybe Mint or something

obtuse bridge Apr 28, 2021, 5:32 PM

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thank you

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would I need to go into terminal to access the files?

night charm Apr 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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obtuse bridge would I need to go into terminal to access the files?

with mint no

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mint has a GUI with a file manager

dusk kernel Apr 28, 2021, 8:01 PM

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@tribal torrent That would be funnier if he were walking around talking to penguins.

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@obtuse bridge 1) If the laptop can boot from a USB device, it should be possible. You might need to alter the boot order in your BIOS though.
2) Most Live Linux distro's should be able to do this. It might be somewhat simpler for you if you use a distro that uses the KDE desktop simply because it looks a little more like Windows. You might ask some friends to see if anyone is familiar with a specific distro. If so, then they can help you. 🙂

obtuse bridge Apr 28, 2021, 8:46 PM

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dusk kernel <@!598615541120499752> 1) If the laptop can boot from a USB device, it should be...

thank you!!

dusk kernel Apr 28, 2021, 8:53 PM

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My pleasure, and good luck!

uncut sail Apr 30, 2021, 11:12 AM

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I actually never knew that linuxcon existed and I have been a Linux user for 1-2 years

river island May 1, 2021, 11:36 AM

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@frank steeple so apparantly something zen related makes it so i can see the cpu temp

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ZenPower

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novel storm May 3, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Target payment card reader thingys use Linux.

fallow belfry May 3, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Many of the card readers run Linux. I've worked at a few different retail places and most load up a Linux kernel when they boot up.

frank steeple May 3, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Yeah,single purpose machines like that will most likely either run Linux or some a RTOS

brave isle May 4, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Is learning linux hard?

sleek halo May 4, 2021, 1:42 PM

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No

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Ubuntu is a easy OS to use

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I would recommend Ubuntu, Pop OS, or Linux Mint if you are new to Linux

prime raft May 4, 2021, 1:43 PM

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I confirm, having used Ubuntu since the 10.04 version.

fiery berry May 4, 2021, 1:54 PM

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How easy is it to boot up a Linux Distro

sleek halo May 4, 2021, 1:55 PM

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Very

mossy flume May 4, 2021, 1:55 PM

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if you installed it properly, it just boots. or runs off a livecd if thats your choice. or loads in virtualbox/etc.

fiery berry May 4, 2021, 1:58 PM

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So just download it onto a boot USB and it will run?

mossy flume May 4, 2021, 1:59 PM

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that entirely depends on the distro. Some have livecds that can run like that.

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Most provide installation media, and youll either wipe your hdd and install to it just like if you were doing a fresh windows install, or repartition it and set it up to dual boot

fiery berry May 4, 2021, 2:00 PM

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So I can have windows and Linux run at the same time depending on the distro?

mossy flume May 4, 2021, 2:00 PM

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they dont boot at the same time but when turning the system on you can pick which one loads

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if you want them running simultaneously, install it as a virtual machine

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any distro should be able to be installed to dual boot

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Id usually advise the vm route for new users because resetting if you mess up something is super easy, just delete your disk image and try again. No effect on the host OS if you mess up.

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just load a premade image into virtual box 🙂

bright shell May 4, 2021, 6:43 PM

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fiery berry So I can have windows and Linux run at the same time depending on the distro?

You could run a Virtual machine. That would let you run Linux and Windows at the same time. Some people use that for Gaming on Windows and using Linux as their main OS.

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But Windows VM gaming is a bit iffy at times. Some Anti-Cheat solutions detect VMs as a "hacking tool" since the Host OS can manipulate Memory Addresses for the Guest OS.

mossy flume May 4, 2021, 7:01 PM

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windows host, linux guest is a lot friendlier

fallow belfry May 4, 2021, 7:10 PM

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But then you don't get the advantages of a Linux host

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Like unrestricted hardware access

bright shell May 4, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Yeah, if Anti-Cheat didn't suck on Linux, I'd be using Linux as my Host OS.

fallow belfry May 4, 2021, 7:27 PM

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That's why I dual boot

mossy flume May 4, 2021, 7:33 PM

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i guess it depends why you want linux