#linux-and-android

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sand pecan
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I'd try it out in a vm first before implementing it in a live system

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I've deleted my share of efi partitions over the years

valid python
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I would admit I may underestimate how difficult it could actually be installing arch or whatnot when I barely know about the world of linux in the first place

valid python
valid python
sand pecan
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My first three install didn't work correctly

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So

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It's a steep learning curve but it's worth it in my opinion

valid python
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totally

sand pecan
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Customisation as you mentioned is the key strength of arch

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Instead of spending time to find the perfect distro

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You customise arch into what you want

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Although even without the customisation arch still has several key advantages

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The package manager being one of them

valid python
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what's the package manager you call again in the console?

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pacman?

sand pecan
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Yes

valid python
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lol yeah

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i found its wiki to be very good as well

sand pecan
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It is

valid python
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seems like I wouldn't need to find other sources to learn from

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so yeah

sand pecan
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Ironically I've had an easier time with arch than debian based

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Just because the documentation was better

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I'd probably start by experimenting in a VM

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Don't make the mistake I did lol

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💀

valid python
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lmao

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also what benefit would I have again if I use linux with an AMD gpu?

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is it for gaming or just compatibility with the os?

sand pecan
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The open source drivers are generally more reliable for radeon gpus

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On linux at least

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The linux radeon experience is generally better than on windows

valid python
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interesting

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bonus points for me i guess

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anything else to add, say if you were to persuade me into switching to linux?

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like other benefits and such

sand pecan
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Depends on the use case tbh

valid python
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what would yours be?

sand pecan
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It just works

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Let me elaborate

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Windows has always tried kill itself every 6 months for me

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And it always succeeds

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That combined with the annoying updates (which is the reason they keep breaking)

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The hyper-monetisation of windows 11

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As well as the better customisation options linux offers

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I use a tiling window manager which makes my workflow a lot more efficient

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Package management is also way better on linux imo

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There are downsides but in my case

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The benefits far outweigh the drawbacks

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Ofc it would be entirely different for your case

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But that's also one of the key aspects of linux really

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You can individualise your linux experience

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Which is what I've always liked about it

valid python
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noting on that do you use an android? lol

sand pecan
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Absolutely

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Not spending 1 grand on a locked down platform

valid python
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cus I never really switched to apple literally cause of the customizations of android lmao

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yeah agree

sand pecan
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Android had a pretty decent FOSS scene too

valid python
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would it be better to also include dual booting on a vm as well? so the VM really is just like what I would do fully in actuality?

sand pecan
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That's unnecessary

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Actually it may be a good idea

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To practice

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Since windows doesn't like sharing efis

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There's some shennaigans

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It's good to work out a solution before you install it on the actual system yeah

valid python
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this really gonna take some time huh

sand pecan
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Arch is a hobby

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It took me a year until I had something that wasn't broken

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Due to skill issues on my part

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I'm happy to say that it all worked out in the end

valid python
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anything you miss having from windows at least?

sand pecan
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Although it was a massive pain in the ass for the initial years

sand pecan
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That's it

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And that can be solved with a vm

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And a dual boot if necessary

valid python
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oh yeah i don't see why I couldn't just use a VM for using windows

sand pecan
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I'm at the point where my workflow is so optimised to my setup that if I went to windows I'd be frustrated

valid python
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that's great then hahah

sand pecan
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It's a good practice to keep windows around for edge cases

valid python
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I stopped playing valorant anyway kekw
hope cs runs fine on it though

valid python
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so dual booting it is

sand pecan
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Oh yeah valve titles are the most likely to work

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The love linux

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Biggest supporter of linux in recent years

valid python
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that's perfect then, i just realize they literally based their own os on linux

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yessirr

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should I expect to free a lot of storage to be able to do what ima do?

sand pecan
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Yes

valid python
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dang

sand pecan
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Also steam doesn't like sharing game libraries between linux and windows installs

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I usually keep them separate

valid python
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eh no problem

sand pecan
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Expect some things to just not work at all

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I've had an easier time running games (I mostly play singleplayer) than software like adobe or affinity

valid python
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probably better to keep my work and leisure separate with os tho so yea

sand pecan
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If you use stuff like Solidworks

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You'd definitely want to keep windows around

valid python
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hopefully davinci works just fine or even better, it's my main work thing

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will see in the future

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but if no then dual boot to windows easy

sand pecan
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Davinci is one of the ones that is less broken

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They do have linux packages

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I've had mixed results

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It may or may not work out of the box

valid python
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lol i gotta mentally prepare myself for all the troubleshooting i'll be doing lmao

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have to start learning again on the vm stuff too

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it's at least a start though

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think it would help with my IT course as well so hooray

smoky fable
valid python
fast mango
valid python
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@sand pecan I have 400 gigs on my sata SSD

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would it be just pretty fine to use sada ssd? cus my nvme only got like 120gigs

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for the VM that is

fallow belfry
fast mango
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Since you split home

fallow belfry
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Whatever was left of my 1TB drive after swap and boot partitions.
/Home is on a separate 1TB drive.

fast mango
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Oh ok

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Im on the same drive so should I just give 100 for root and the rest to home

fallow belfry
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That depends on how you expect to use the space. Are you planning to install more programs, games, etc, or personal data like photos and documents?

fast mango
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Games and videos are gonna be on there so home has to be pretty big

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Oh root is only taking up 7 gigs

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I can just give it 50 and even that would be a lot

fallow belfry
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If you'll be using steam you can tell it to store games in a subfolder in /home then

fast mango
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But I read that linux still treats it the same even if its on a different partition

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Just automount it and its like its all together

sand pecan
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It should be the same since you're only separating / from /home

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Steam should be untouched in /home, where your programs sre installed

dusk kernel
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Reading through the dual-boot conversation, I didn't see anyone mention that Windows should be installed first because it will over-write some of the boot-related stuff. I think it's the EFI partition?
Also, during the Windows install process, make the EFI partition a little larger because it'll have Linux stuff in it later, but Windows doesn't know that at the time of installation.

There are lots of tutorials out there that describe this much better than I did. I just wanted to make sure the issue was mentioned.

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My other dual-boot tip is to keep in mind that Linux will be able to access the NTFS partitions used for Windows. However, unless something has changed in the last couple of years, Windows will not be able to access the partitions used for Linux. So depending on what you will be using each OS for, you might want to have a "shared" partition, probably NTFS format, for files that you expect to access from both OS's.

fallow belfry
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It takes some additional setup but it's possible now without third party tools

dusk kernel
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Aaahhh, cool... I wasn't aware that it was actually useful now. Thanks for the correction!

fast mango
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Isnt wsl just ubuntu though

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Or can you use other distros

fast mango
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Oh looks like you can use whatever

sand pecan
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Yeah you can use different kernels

flint mantle
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Anyone know where I can find this information?

image.png
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This is OpenRGB

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Why are my fans flashing while I type lmao

flint mantle
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Apparently the header was loose

fast mango
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Fellas I think I found my issue

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Linux doesnt like vram overclocks i dont think

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Because I didnt touch it and have had no problems

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Idk maybe I spoke too soon we gotta see for a few days really

flint mantle
sand pecan
fast mango
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On windows I could crank it all the way up and chill

sand pecan
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🤷🏻‍♀️

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Linux moment

fast mango
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Honestly I am surprised I didnt catch this sooner

sand pecan
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It makes perfect sense too lmao

fast mango
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Like literally a block of the screen was a bunch of artifacts

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And I was too stubborn to see

sand pecan
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Could be buggy software too

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What did you use to OC?

fast mango
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CoreCtrl

sand pecan
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Hmm

fast mango
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What I did was change the power profile to compute and somehow net the same performance while having stock vram speeds

sand pecan
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Could be something buggy with the scripts, drivers or some random thing

fast mango
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And have no issues

sand pecan
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Or just a bad OC

fast mango
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Maybe the amd driver doesn't like messing with that stuff because windows had no issues

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My windows setup had an even lower offset too

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Lower voltage offset and higher mem clocks

sand pecan
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Is it a 1:1 OC tho

fast mango
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But changing the power profile fixed it so far so it is what it is

fast mango
sand pecan
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Are the settings the exact same?

fast mango
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No because I cant have as extreme of a profile compared to what I can have on windows which is weird

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On windows I was below -60 and can max out the memory slider but cant do that on linux

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I think it was actually at -70

sand pecan
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Perhaps it's not 1:1 to windows

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When you apply those changes

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Or maybe it's some weird quirk of the oc software, drivers, or some other thing

fast mango
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Brotha really thought he would do the same thing and forget about it

sand pecan
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mfw Linux doesn't work

fast mango
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Wanna see what I was getting yesterday

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Peep this

sand pecan
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lmao

fast mango
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I was hoping it would recover itself like how it usually does but then it just kept making different patters for like over 5 minutes

dusk kernel
# fast mango

You should screencap that and use it for wallpaper. 😁

fallow belfry
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Like that broken screen wallpaper that you can use on your phone lol, love that idea

fast mango
valid python
fast mango
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I found out

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Lact does not have this issue

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You can set it to automatic for lact and let the gpu do its own thing

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So this makes lact more like adrenalin I guess

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Just move the sliders and chill

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But the undervolt is still more sensitive though

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I actually had my windows uv to -75 and +150 vram with no problem but vram oc even with lact and -70 at the same core speed was still causing issues

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So I went -60 and I am not touching this anymore

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Tired of it ngl sobbing sobbing sobbing

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Also I found out how to fix this black screen issue after I have a gpu reset. Basically when I get a gpu reset from an unstable undervolt and restart the computer, kde will go completely black for a second and come back as if I am restarting the plasmashell service or something. Then does it again and on the third time it goes black, it stays black forever until I reboot and the cycle repeats. I can still use the computer if I open stuff before it goes away, and can open stuff via terminal and keep using the computer its just that I have no DE. A fix for this is to reset kde by deleting ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc and ~/.config/plasmashellrc then rebooting. Potentially deleting ~/.config/kwinoutputconfig.json can help too since that has your display information, because apparently setting the monitor color profile to prefer accuracy can create the grounds for some issues to form

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Linux jank

sand pecan
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I can't tell if that's KDE jank or Nobara jank

dusk kernel
fast mango
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Setting the color accuracy to prefer accuracy instead of efficiency does it

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Efficiency is the default setting

sand pecan
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the what

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It's funny how you have all these features and I'm just like

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"le WM works, not gonna touch it"

fast mango
sand pecan
fast mango
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I cant tell a difference between the two dettings so I owned myself

sand pecan
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this is all i have

fast mango
sand pecan
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Minimalism moment

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it works tho that's the funny part

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this is pretty stable

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as stable as arch installs can be at least

fast mango
sand pecan
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the greatest benefit of minimalism is that you have less things that can break

fast mango
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What I like about kde is their widgets

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And there is still a little bit more

image.png image.png
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On the bottom of my second monitor there is a timer which is useful

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I mean I probably wont use the majority of these ever but there is a lot you can do

sand pecan
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I like KDE features until they break

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but that's more of an arch issue really

near maple
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YES I CAN PLAY ROBLOX ON ARCH

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I THOUGHT I CAN'T

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AND IT RUNS LIKE BUTTER

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THIS JANKY PORT RUNS BETTER THAN THAT BLOATED OS

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not just a performance boost

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literly 2x performance

near maple
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So far

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every game i've played just runs better

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than windows

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except minecraft , i couldn't figure out how to use my nvidia gpu

fast mango
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When you do get it to work it should be like a 40% increase

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Compared to windows I went from 160 to 210

near maple
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ill try when i find free time

sand pecan
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if you're using prism

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Install nvidia-prime

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go into the launch settings of prism launcher

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In the "wrapper command" box

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Insert:
prime-run

near maple
fast mango
fast mango
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Can download mods, shaders, resource packs all from it and it sorts it all for you

sand pecan
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Prism just works

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👍🏻

near maple
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if am not wrong , gaming on proton is almost as good as windows in alot of cases

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but what about native versions?

sand pecan
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Sometimes they don't even work

proven mirage
fast mango
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Be one of those weirdos that have the browser restrict telling websites what operating system you are using

fast mango
fast mango
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Muta quit arch after an update killed his installation

sand pecan
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Average arch experience

fast mango
sand pecan
fast mango
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Goes hard

sand pecan
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Minimalism

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I should get a 16GB stick (my system is unstable with two sodimms for some reason)

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DDR4 is dirt cheap these days so

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I wonder if Kaby Lake R can even take advantage of 3200MHz

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ok from this old LTT video

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seems like Kaby Lake does not care at all

valid python
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any and all of what you guys talk about kinda scares me getting into linux lmfao

sand pecan
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It's scary until you get used to it

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I've gotten so used to it that the thought of using windows causes me pain

forest latch
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Honestly anybody with a decent amount of basic problem solving and reading ability should be able to use nearly any distro with no issue

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Don't understand something? Google it, read documentation, ask other users

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Some people do that for windows as well

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As well as many blogs

fast mango
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Kinda crazy how often fedora updates

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They really killin it out here

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Laptop was on 6.13.8 and my desktop is on 6.14.2

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Only been a few weeks

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I gotta enable hibernate on here

fast mango
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Bro barely updates this is crazy

sand pecan
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I usually don't update that often

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Usually once a month or once every 2 weeks

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With arch you don't want to update too often

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But you don't want to update too little either

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Both has the chance of breaking the system

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Average arch experience

brave isle
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I update Arch like twice a week and have been fine, and I have ran this install for over a year now.

forest latch
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Meanwhile me on an old ass debian install that hasn't been updated in years

near maple
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can i create my own linux program and make it into a package?

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any place to get started?

fast mango
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I think you mean to make it

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Like build it yourself

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If so, yeah you can but I forgot

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I just use app images or rpm or flatpak if nothing else is available

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Some things are only flatpak so in that case I use that too

sand pecan
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A lot of linux packages are often compiled from source code for different distros

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You can compile source into a .deb package for debian-based distros

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Or, for arch linux, you can use the PKGBUILD system to compile packages

near maple
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if i install another instance of arch or a diffrent linux os that uses grub , and i add it to the grub of my old os , wouldn't that mean that booting into it through the old grub will take me through grub twice?

dusk kernel
# near maple if i install another instance of arch or a diffrent linux os that uses grub , an...

This video should be helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crleyglb4mo

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How to Dualboot and Multiboot Linux (and Windows)

In this video I'll go over how to dualboot and also how to multiboot, in order to install as many operating systems as you want! Grub is primarily used here but there are other options such as systemd-boot which I will cover in another video. I also cover an important step in order to dual/multiboot with Windows.

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near maple
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thanks

dusk kernel
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Not that anybody asked, but.... I've got the beginning of a rough plan for that system I saved from being recycled. The motherboard supports RAID, and I have a couple of old but barely used 500GB drives. Unfortunately, the case only has one 3.5" bay. It's a bit of a bodge, but I managed to add another drive.

So, I'm going to experiment with some backup options like Amanda and Bacula, and perhaps others that are suggested. If I get a backup system working, I'll upgrade the drives to maybe a pair of new 6TB drives. Good times!

sand pecan
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We love a good budget server

dusk kernel
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Looks like most of my searches for the next several days will include "raid." LOL

near maple
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i love hyprland on my laptop but

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god , it will be amazing if i had a 32inch flat display to go with it

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soo much apps at once

near maple
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the boot loader looks like an offbrand mobile game ☠️

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btw

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what is an os

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inspecific

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what is a distro , what does it do

fast mango
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A distro is a linux operating system that includes the kernel and its own packages designs etc

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Libraries

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Basically their own take on linux I guess

forest latch
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distribution

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every version of linux you can use is a distribution (e.g. debian ubuntu arch rhel)

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though some distributions are based off of another distro (e.g. ubuntu is built on debian, so all .deb packages will install and run fine on ubuntu)

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think of distrobutions kinda like.... windows 10 vs windows 11

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if that makes any sense

dusk kernel
# forest latch think of distrobutions kinda like.... windows 10 vs windows 11

I don't know if Win10 and Win11 are alike enough that they would be examples of distributions. I think a better example would be racing cars. Within any racing class (e.g, NASCAR, F1, etc.) there are rules that give all the cars a lot in common. But each team does their own adaptations and tweaks that make each car unique. So here the teams are the distributions.

dusk kernel
# near maple the boot loader looks like an offbrand mobile game ☠️

Yeah, that's a pretty stylish GRUB menu. But it's not particularly unique if you've browsed https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/ at all.

I had a Fedora version of that theme on my main desktop for a while. Heck, it might still be what I'm using. But I don't remember because I was playing with the GRUB menu on my laptop a couple of hours ago and that's all I can visualize at the moment. LOL

https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/
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forest latch
fast mango
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Yeah you can see in the terminal it still shows version like 10.8 or something like that

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Maybe a little higher by now

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Traditionally it always showed a different version with every release but "11" will still show version 10.x in the terminal

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Windows 10+

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I'll stick with the original

sand pecan
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11 is just 10 but you're the product and not the consumer

small fractal
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So Oblivion remastered came out and it’s free on game pass soooo now I’m considering reconfiguring my partition tables for a duel boot with windows. I currently have Pop!OS as my current OS. Any recommendations on how to do it, or good videos, also do I have to buy the windows OS?

mortal totem
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Not really, and if you are dual booting you probably wouldn’t care about the watermark too much anyway

mortal totem
small fractal
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Bless lol, yeah I would likely only use windows for Xbox game pass andd maybe some of the amd overlocking software to speed stuff up

fast mango
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Ryzen master applies the settings to bios

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My ryzen master oc + co sticks on linux because the changes it applies are to the bios

small fractal
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But I’m gonna go through the process and see if it’s like having multiple distros

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wish me luck

fast mango
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Then itll just write in the settings

stray geode
sand pecan
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Most of them are for data collection

small fractal
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The things I do for oblivion

fast mango
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It wont even run well

small fractal
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I am a victim of nostalgia

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My rig can handle the dual boot, it’s meant to run high performance code lol

fast mango
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Erm akshually its low performance code blobnerd ☝️

dusk kernel
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Ugh... but I don't wanna learn how to install a stupid web server just to get an interface for backup software. Why can't a basic web server be included with the backup software? Ugh. I don't have the mental energy for this.

sand pecan
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What are you using?

mortal totem
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In the past I’ve used xampp on windows. But now i usually just use nginx docker containers

dusk kernel
# sand pecan What are you using?

I'm not actually using anything yet, I'm still in the "checking out options" phase. I was trying to setup BackupPC when I got annoyed about the web server issue. The GUI for Bacula also requires a web server but I haven't checked it out at all yet.

sand pecan
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It comes with a web server

dusk kernel
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I've seen syncthing mentioned in a few "top X" lists. I don't recall details but I don't think it meets my needs. I'll eventually get around to dealing with web server installation and configuration. Maybe. 😁

fast mango
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Uh oh
https://videocardz.com/pixel/valves-proton-reaches-10-0-beta-milestone

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Valve's Proton reaches 10.0 beta milestone - VideoCardz.com

Proton 10.0 now available under beta New game support, Wine 10.0 integration. Proton, a Vulkan translation layer for DirectX, has now reached the milestone 10.0-1 beta release. While we’re still three years away from Proton’s 10-year anniversary, it’s not an understatement to say that it has significantly changed the gaming market by enabl...

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What they cookin bruh

dusk kernel
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I just saw this and will check it out more later today. Seems like a good marketing idea.
https://endof10.org/

fast mango
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True

dusk kernel
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After browsing that site a bit... it seems pretty useful. People and organizations can add themselves to a searchable list. That should be handy.... unless it gets abused and full of random garbage info.

fast mango
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I think like 2/3 of it are german locations

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Is linux really popping off like that in germany

fast mango
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Crazy how I can set a charge limit on linux

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Free os can do this but apple locks this behind getting new iphone models

dusk kernel
forest latch
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Linux has been pretty popular for decades

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On the server front

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Only reason to use windows server is really just ad ds

near maple
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when is linux 2 dropping ?🔥

sand pecan
fast mango
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Its real

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Maybe thats why ge didnt make a new version for a bit

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Also doing fedora 42 stuff too so not the best timing to release another ge version

sand pecan
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👀

merry barn
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if i run windows in a virtual machine can i play games than block linux with their anticheat>?

fast mango
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They will probably see that you are on a vm and ban you

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Unless you spoof it really really well

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But it is hard to do

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So not worth imo

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Sometimes you gotta yield to the microshaft

merry barn
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😳

forest latch
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That's what they call me

stray geode
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Wut lol

sweet marlin
stray geode
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yeah i'm known to be a bit above average

dusk kernel
fast mango
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I was wrong

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he is already done basically

fast mango
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Uh oh

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I think I lost cachy

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Doesnt come up in bios

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Will grub regeneration save me

fast mango
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Nvm I trolled myself

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It was there the whole time but the name threw me off

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Like yeah im gonna know what uefi os is

forest latch
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Or rather outdated terminology

fast mango
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Yeah its what everyone calls it

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Even though bios is over

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Oops

forest latch
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It's been outdated terminology for over a decade ong

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Almost 2 decades even

fast mango
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People probably still say it because probably easier to say it

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Idk how it still stuck

forest latch
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Some people are calling the bios a bios even though that has pretty much been obsolete the entire time they've been alive

forest latch
# fast mango Idk how it still stuck

I think it's because many new people into tech don't realize that uefi was standard since like the mid/late 2000s and the older people who have been in tech since the 90s just have the habit

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Though saying "bios" (bi-os) rolls off the tongue easier than "uefi" (you ee eff eye/oo fee)

fast mango
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I need to update my oofi its really old

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Nobody is saying this sobbing sobbing sobbing

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Youfee

sand pecan
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Just like how people call external ssds hard drives

dusk kernel
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I'm tired of hearing people say they "taped" something using their phone and referring to video recording. C'mon humans, update your brain, geez.

sand pecan
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that's like the boomer version of "caught in 4k"

forest latch
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Me filming a video on a digital sensor

dusk kernel
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I really wish that dnf5 worked with the local cache plugin. After upgrading a few systems to Fedora 42, the only way I could get that plugin to work was to soft link dnf5, dnf4, and dnf to dnf-3. I suspect that any updates to any of the dnf packages will break that and I'll need to re-link the files.

fast mango
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.2-VCN5-RDNA4-Video
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.2-High-Priority-USERQ
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.2-Faster-RADV-RDNA4-RT

Mesa 25.2 Lands RADV VCN5 Video Encode/Decode Support For RDNA4 GPUs

Posted for the AMDGPU Linux kernel driver in early 2024 was the initial Video Core Next 5.0 IP enablement that was part of their bring-up for the Radeon RX 9000 'RDNA4' graphics processors

AMDGPU High Priority Graphics User Queue Support Merged For Mesa 25.2

For making use of AMDGPU user queue functionality, the latest Mesa user-space side work has been merged for Mesa 25.2 to enable support for high priority graphics user queues.

Mesa 25.2 RADV Merges Ray-Tracing Improvements For Radeon RX 9070 S...

Merged for the Mesa 25.2 release next quarter are some further enhancements to the Vulkan ray-tracing support with the RADV open-source driver for AMD's new RDNA4 graphics cards.

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I think 25.2 will be big

near maple
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quiting fortnite to vote for the os of the free

fast mango
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Damn I see why there was this video of this really old guy making a video of distros that dont use systemd
https://youtu.be/iCU4W5Ab33c

YouTube
Brodie Robertson
XLibre Is The X11 Future Xorg Never Became?

A few months back I put out a video on Enrico Weigelt of the Xorg project spiking up the commit count for the Xorg project, and recently he decided to fork the project and start up something called Xlibre. But that did not go over completely smoothly

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sand pecan
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Wayland is still pretty buggy at times

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This is why we need an X11 alternative until Wayland's bugs have been ironed out

dusk kernel
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And until we can get more random apps to be compatible with Wayland.
cough-cough-Gyazo-cough-cough

sand pecan
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WE ANNEXED ANDROID

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WE DID IT BOIS

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LINUX WINS AGAIN

drowsy surge
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we waited a whole year more to get terrible looking oneUi 7.0 on a15 🥀

fast mango
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There is even more to it, crazy

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I knew red hate was kinda sussy but this is just crazy

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These fedora guys are almost like cultists

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Oh he brings it up towards the end of the video but yeah these insane devs also say nutty things about lunduke for exposing how these guys operate

fast mango
sand pecan
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Free arch linux advertisement

fast mango
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True

fast mango
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Brutal truth pill

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sand pecan
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Wayland copers are another level of delusional

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I use Wayland and it is definitely NOT perfect

dusk kernel
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My work laptop is being upgraded from Win10 to Win11 tomorrow. Wish me luck. I'll be hugging my Linux boxes while the update happens.

fast mango
fast mango
fast mango
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I think kde is on the wayland bandwagon too

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Wait what

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flatpak?

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They have gone too far

sand pecan
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💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

fast mango
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I forgot lmaoooo

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Yeah I can oc vram and undervolt

merry barn
fast mango
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His linux video just hit 6m

sand pecan
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based

fast mango
mortal totem
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So proud of him

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🥲

fast mango
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Bro leveled up fr

sand pecan
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I'm going to try kubuntu

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(My ventoy usb broke and I just happened to have a kubuntu usb)

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Would prefer debian but eh

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Just gonna mess around a bit more

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Haven't used KDE in a while

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Gonna get straight to debloating

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And customisation

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It's gonna be a breath of fresh air to be sure

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I can use a GUI instead of editing text files

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Oh right

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I forgot how to use a gui

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I keep clicking hotkeys instead of using the mouse

dusk kernel
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Speaking of "editing text files"... I need to remember to try out the tiling functionality in KDE. Hopefully it'll be good enough that I don't need to learn hyprland. 😁

merry barn
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for me at least

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ubuntu stability+kde=good fun distro

sand pecan
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Eh

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Not a fan of the package system

mortal totem
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For years I have just defaulted to kde or xfce, now I decided to try out gnome and i’ve been liking it so far

dusk kernel
merry barn
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guys why does my distro say glados

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stray geode
merry barn
dusk kernel
fast mango
dusk kernel
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Rather than installing something like Bacula, Amanda, BackupPC, etc., I'm going to try TrueNAS. I want to retain the ability to use the box as a generic desktop if necessary, so I'll try TrueNAS in a VM. If you have experience with TrueNAS in a VM, feel free to toss suggestions/warnings in my direction. 😁

mortal totem
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Well besides the fact that it is meant as a dedicated nas solution you can install it in a vm and many people have good luck with that.

I would say you just have to watch how you are passing through your drives in the vm and would probably advise against running vms from within truenas when it is running in a vm lol

dusk kernel
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Right... I wouldn't run a VM inside a VM... except if I were bored and was just curious how poorly it would perform.. 😁 If I were going to run multiple VM's, I'd probably try Proxmox, then run both Fedora and TrueNAS as VM's.

mortal totem
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using proxmox as a hypervisor for this is a fairly common usecase

dusk kernel
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I might do that later, but I'm trying to keep it simple as long as possible.

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If I get this working, I might upgrade the CPU (i5-9400F @ 2.90GHz with 8C&8T) to one with integrated graphics. That would allow me to remove the noisy little GPU (GT 635) and get better CPU & GPU performance. Would the extra 8 threads on an 8C&16T CPU be utilized enough to justify the extra $120-ish? Or would an 8C&8T CPU be sufficient?

mortal totem
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What are you running on this machine besides truenas

dusk kernel
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TL;DR -- Probably won't be doing anything else while TrueNAS is running.

Fedora 42 is the main OS with TrueNAS in a VM. At the moment, I only plan to use TrueNAS for file backup/syncing with my other boxes. (that could change) I have a 2TB SSD connected to my router for random file sharing between machines so I don't need this machine running 24/7 as a NAS. The SSD will get backed up too. I don't plan to be doing anything else when the TrueNAS VM is running.

mortal totem
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is that fedora desktop?

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if so you might not even need truenas. it's great for zfs and the built in services but if all you need is a simple backup and maybe a share you could probably manually set that up as a service in fedora

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you can setup rsync or something similar for backups and add a samba or nfs share for other devices on your network

dusk kernel
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Correct.... generic Fedora 42 with KDE

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Hmmm... fair point. I figure there's no harm in trying out TrueNAS... and it's installed now. heh heh

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I've watched too many youtube videos about NAS's, homelabs, etc. and have apparently been bitten by the TrueNAS bug. 🪲 😁

fast mango
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ge spotted

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mortal totem
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been enjoying bazzite so far. but that's also because im shifting all my work related tasks to my macbook

fast mango
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I did the customization

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dusk kernel
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Good grief... trying to setup a network bridge so a VM can connect to my LAN and WAN is driving me nuts. I'm surely missing one little bit of info somewhere, but it evades my google fu.

I may come back later and describe what I'm doing but feel free to suggest reference materials. I'm using virt-manager on Fedora+KDE

sand pecan
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Last time I tried something like that

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I had to buy an external usb adapter

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And it was super jank

forest latch
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Bridging requires a dedicated physical adapter

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Well

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It's not a hard requirement

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But your host will have terrible speeds

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If you share it

sand pecan
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Something something laptop wifi adapters don't like being bridged and therefore I needed a usb adapter

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That's all I remember from trying to bridge my laptop wifi to my vm

mortal totem
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Makes sense

dusk kernel
forest latch
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Unless they got 2 ports

mortal totem
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Yeah setting up rsync via ssh isn’t too difficult. I will add it probably would be best with folders that aren’t too too large and with computers that are mostly active.
I tried to use it recently but realized my files take a few hours just to scan and check for differences, but then the remote machine would turn off and cancel the whole sync and id have to start again lol

dusk kernel
# mortal totem Yeah setting up rsync via ssh isn’t too difficult. I will add it probably would ...

There are 4 systems I care about backing up. One is running during the day while I work (I work from home), One is running in the afternoon/evening after work and most of the day on weekends. The other 2 only run as needed and one of those is the box I'll be using to store file backups. For now, I don't plan to automate very much.So I shouldn't need to worry about machines turning off. 😁
I'll probably just make backups something I do weekly, then will look for consistent patterns that can be automated.

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I'll need to backup a Windows installation too, and I see that rsync will run on Windows. Should the partition that Windows is getting backed up to be using the NTFS filesystem, or can that be ext4 also? I'll be googling that soon-ish.

dusk kernel
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OK, here's a somewhat generic Linux backup question. 😁 Is it necessary to backup everything in a Linux installation? Would this cover everything and allow recreation of a system if the hardware fails?

  1. Generate a list of all packages installed, save that somewhere in /home
  2. back up /home and /etc
    To restore...
  3. Do a fresh install on the "new" hardware
  4. Update using the previously saved list of installed packages
  5. Restore the previous /home & /etc

I know the repos used will need to be factored in there somewhere, but I'm just curious what major issue I'm surely forgetting.

mortal totem
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If you wanted something like that you might want to look into running your apps as containers. Isolated environment that can be spun up with the exact same configuration as long as you just backup any necessary persistent storage volumes

dusk kernel
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That's an interesting idea for sure. But I'd need to add "containers" to my study list, which is already getting kinda long. 😁 For now I prefer to stick with the "typical old school" installation.

mortal totem
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containers aren't too difficult, especially if you are using official images from dockerhub, linuxserver, etc. but basically it runs another instance on linux within your host os that is completely separate, you use an image to tell it what distro to use, what dependencies to install and the software to run. then you can connect your config files for the app via volumes.
So if I want to move a web app to another system I just have to move the config files and pull the same image. or if it broke and I need to reinstall you just recreate the image and it will rebuild it with the same config

dusk kernel
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Aaahhh... gotcha. That could definitely be useful in some situations. All my systems are just generic desktop systems that I use for different things and update every day. I'm not sure how much benefit there would be to use containers in this context.

mortal totem
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oh if it's just a desktop than probably not

sand pecan
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And backup the list of packages you have

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And perhaps key config files

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Like /etc/fstab

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My / and /home are in separate partitions so in case it decided to die randomly

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I can just nuke /

dusk kernel
sand pecan
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maybe /usr

dusk kernel
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The only thing I can think of in /usr that might need to be backed up would be manually installed applications. But I got lazy a long time ago and started putting those in /home/[user]/bin instead of /usr/local etc. So those would be backed up with /home. I'll browse around in /usr again though.

sand pecan
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kinda mid

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I need to mess with waybar a bit more to get it to look the way I want

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going for this look

sand pecan
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slightly closer

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I think I'll stickw ith this for now

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colors are a bit faded on thunar because it unfocused when I took a ss

sand pecan
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rounded the corners on two of the items

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looks a lot closer to the real thing

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I should probably change the rofi theme to the right shade of gold tho

fast mango
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fr

stray geode
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Maybe not the best time for me to get arch then....

sand pecan
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I mean it's the AUR

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You know what you're getting into

stray geode
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?

sand pecan
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Don't download anything sus and you're good

fast mango
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I thought this too until I realized the infected packages were firefox, librewolf and zen

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The real best practice would be to look through it yourself, not just blindly downloading it but you wouldn't really think about it with something like a firefox update

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About browsers, seeing cachy browser deprecated had me bummed

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Reasons were not much support and not much usage either

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Apparently even devs were not using it

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And what checks out is that the browser got deprecated two months ago and I just found out yesterday

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Although not because I rejected the browser, because I just dont use cachy that much

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But the times that I do spend more than 15 minutes on cachy every few weeks, I would use it

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Basically just a firefox fork with ublock preinstalled and some hardening

stray geode
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How does arch do performance wise?

fast mango
stray geode
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No

fast mango
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I would not recommend arch then

stray geode
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Hm

fast mango
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But you seem to like arch so get cachy

stray geode
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I mean im open to options

fast mango
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It is based on arch and has the cachy kernel

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It has additional optimizations

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Also not hard to use

stray geode
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Yeah

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What other distros would be good to try for a first timer?

fast mango
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I dont use cachy much but the only issue I can remember having is some mirror problems when updating but this is easily solved with a simple command

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What is also cool is previously entered commands will show in the terminal when you are typing

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So if you remember like half of the command, it might show the rest

fast mango
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Both are easy to use and have their own helpful apps that make things easier

stray geode
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Alr

fast mango
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In fact there is a video from the same youtuber going over the sudden shutdown of clear linux and he recommended cachy os with its cpu optimizations

sand pecan
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It's not firefox

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nor librewolf

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it's third party packages

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If you stick to the official packages like librewolf-bin or firefox or regular zen

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you wouldn't run into issues

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You'd have to go out of your way to download a suspicious fork of firefox or librewolf or zen

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the official packages are
librewolf/librewolf-bin
zen-browser/zen-browser bin

fast mango
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Ohhh damn I overlooked this

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Yeah I see now

sand pecan
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Yeah it's really just a matter of common sense

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The packages I install are usually listed on arch wiki or other official sources

fast mango
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It is a new package with a different name, not something existing

fast mango
fast mango
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this is like those torrents that have spoofed amount of seeders to make it look legit

sand pecan
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or those suspicous apks

fast mango
sand pecan
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or csgo aimbots

dusk kernel
#

I posted this in #storage-devices but got no response, so I figured I'd also ask here, where the cool folks are. 😁

I'm looking for a couple of HDD's to setup as RAID1 for NAS duty. This is the top contender at the moment. Are there any negative issues I'm missing?
WD Red Plus 10TB NAS Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM Class SATA 6Gb/s, CMR, 256MB Cache, 3.5 Inch - WD101EFBX-NE -- $179.99
https://www.newegg.com/red-plus-wd101efbx-10tb/p/1B4-005X-001D5

sand pecan
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These are solid drives

dusk kernel
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Cool, thanks! Trigger pulled, order placed. [chuckle]

near maple
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that is if he KNOWS what he is going into

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also past the getting started part , my system been very stable

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compared to windows

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that is

stray geode
near maple
# stray geode I do not

arch is for if you want a barebone machine to customize to your heart's content , if you don't want a headache while figuring stuff out , you should use something like mint , pop os , ubunto

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i choose arch cuz i wanted to learn more about linux tbh

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and the customization

fast mango
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I knew ge made things like this easier but didnt know what exactly

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I am sure there is more to be discovered

mortal totem
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Nerd

dusk kernel
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My HDD's should arrive today so I'll be setting those up this evening.. MikeExcited I'll be using rsync to do backups onto these drives, and I have data on at least 3 filesystems (ext4, ntfs, vfat). I plan to backup data onto the same filesystem as the source. I.e., ext4 onto ext4, ntfs onto ntfs. I can't think of any reason why that would be "bad" but is that actually necessary?

My assumption is that the different filesystems have different permissions and properties that might not get saved. E.g., if a file on ext4 is backed up to ntfs, it'll lose any properties that ntfs doesn't support.

dusk kernel
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I just want you to know that every time you post a pic of a tiling WM, I'm tempted to set up with one of my boxes like that. And if that happens, I'll be asking you lots of newb questions. So "consider yourself warned." LOL

dusk kernel
dusk kernel
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Cool... I just might need to check out tmux. But, that'll be after I finish the current "OMG, I should be backing up my files!" project. 😁

dusk kernel
fast mango
fast mango
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Either I make a new snapshot in some folder and send it, or I use foxclone and format the whole drive

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I may do the second one

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Actually

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I might do both just to see what happens

dusk kernel
fast mango
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Clonezilla says btrfs is experimental or something

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How will this affect dual booters

mortal totem
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I thought mbr wasn’t really used much anymore

sand pecan
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It's also 32 bit

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I mean most fedora users probably aren't on 32 bit systems that doesn't support uefi

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And if it's a server...

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Well it'd probably be running something like debian

fast mango
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I misread it then

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The windows efi partition is mbr

merry barn
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fork bombs are funny

dusk kernel
dusk kernel
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I just swapped out a stock Intel CPU cooler with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Pro and went from (at 100% CPU) 68C @ 62db to.... 54C @ 51db

tight eagle
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Dang they still make 212s

sand pecan
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He probably just had it

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Nobody in their right mind would buy a 212 these days

fast mango
dusk kernel
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Actually.... I bought two... shipped, for $35 from newegg. LOL

They were on sale and I made an even cheaper offer ($10 each plus shipping) not expecting them to accept the offer.

sand pecan
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$35 for two?

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Eh

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I guess you could do worse for $17.5 per cooler so

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That's not bad tbh

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I was expecting retail price

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Ok nvm

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Assassin X is $18

dusk kernel
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Yeah, I think full retail is close to $40.

sand pecan
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yikes

dusk kernel
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And it was an impulse purchase, like "Oh, I bet you won't accept this offer!" But they did. 😆

sand pecan
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wait

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was it $10 each

dusk kernel
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Total, including shipping was $35-ish.

sand pecan
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oh 35$ was including shipping?

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oh $10 per cooler isn't bad then

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that's a fair price

dusk kernel
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$6 each for shipping was stupid, But less than half price each was acceptable.

sand pecan
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yeah

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tbh

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if you have amazon prime

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you can get an assassin x for $18 with free shipping

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for practically the same price per cooler

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do you at least get two fans?

dusk kernel
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They're a single fan cooler, and work fine for this system.

sand pecan
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damn

dusk kernel
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BUT! .... ARGB! LOL

sand pecan
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I guess it's fine for $16 per cooler

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but like

dusk kernel
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I just checked.... reg. price was $35... on sale for $20... I offered $10 each for 2. Then plus $6-ish each for shipping.

sand pecan
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Assassin x is $18-$19 for a single fan (non/rgb)

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$19 for a dual fan without rgb

dusk kernel
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I didn't really research this... or compare it to other coolers. I didn't expect the offer to be accepted, but... surprise! LOL

sand pecan
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yeahhhh

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I mean it'd be a decent deal in 2021

dusk kernel
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If I needed a GOOD cooler, I'd research more... and would spend more too.

sand pecan
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but well

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well that's the thing tho

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the assassin x is pretty much the best price/perf single tower air cooler for $17-20

dusk kernel
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Aaah... gotcha.

sand pecan
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So yeahhh

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In hindsight you can probably see why they accepted the $10 each

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the shipping is what kills the value imo

dusk kernel
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yeah... I figured ordering 2 might help persuade them. heh heh

sand pecan
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if it was $10 each with shipping include it'd be decent

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$16 is pretty steep

dusk kernel
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yeah, shipping pissed me off and that's why I offered half the sale price.

sand pecan
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I mean

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It's not a bad cooler for $16

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It's just not the best perf/$

dusk kernel
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All I know is.... money spent, cooler is installed, it made a good difference, and I'm not taking it out. LOL

sand pecan
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yeah it's not worth tbh

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It's just a mediocre cooler it's not a bad cooler

dusk kernel
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And definitely good enough for this application.

sand pecan
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and it's only medicore at its price because thermalright came in spamming coolers at very low prices

dusk kernel
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Now that I know a kinda low offer might be accepted... I'll use that function more.

tight eagle
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I offer 0 dabloon

sand pecan
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I mean

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it depends on the product

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Thermalright is probably the reason why they accepted that offer

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A lot of reps at cooling companies have stated that they simply can't match thermalright's cost per unit

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Thermalright pretty owns the budget cooler market now

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...and they're penetrating into the $100+ aio market

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cpu cooler imperialism fr

near maple
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is there a console on android 👀

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terminal 👅

dusk kernel
stray geode
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Can you use this to ping towers i wonder

sand pecan
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Based???

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Former MS employee makes a linux distro

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aimed at developers too

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THIS is what we need for linux to go mainstream

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guy's got the right idea

stray geode
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Named anduin too

sand pecan
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Although

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If it's just the UI that's similar to windows

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that's going to be iffy

stray geode
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Hm yeah

sand pecan
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What I really want to see is how it would integrate tools like bottles and wine

stray geode
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???

sand pecan
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They're windows compatibility tools

stray geode
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Oh cool

sand pecan
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The linux space is severely lacking a push towards software compatibility

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and a lot of the recent developments are reaping benefits off the gaming side rather than spearheading its own developments

sand pecan
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Vieb is treating me well

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pretty fast browser and pretty lightweight as well

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only annoying thing is that google doesn't work

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but that's only because google is going out of their way to block third party browsers

smoky fable
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Shouldn't use Google anyways, yucky

sand pecan
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YouTube

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That's the only reason really

smoky fable
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I mean you can use yt without using google as a search engine

sand pecan
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that's the annoying part really

smoky fable
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You can login to a yt account without using google as your search engine

sand pecan
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The search engine doesn't affect it

tight eagle
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I logged out of google on my firefox and youtub is still signed in

sand pecan
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It's blocked on a browser level

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It's not firefox or chromium based

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Google doesn't like that

smoky fable
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Oh you were referring to all Google services, I see what you mean now

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I thought you were just talking about the search engine

sand pecan
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lol

sand pecan
flat axle
#

hello i have a question is there any benefit of having or using arch systems compared to debian based options like what is the difference here ?

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they both seem pretty similar to me with the only major difference being arch systems are more annoying to install but more customisable and debian based machines overall seem to be much more user friendly and ("windows") like and im here talking about ubunutu mint pop os etc compared to arch linux like for the average user how will switching to an arch system be beneficial i would like to hear people's take on it since im trying to make the switch but confused on what to choose and Thank you for your time .

sand pecan
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Just use whatever works

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It really doesn't matter all that much

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In terms of functionality

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Aside from package manager

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A debian based system should perform the same as an arch based system

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They run the same kernel underneath

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You can even run (mostly) the same sortware

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Spot the difference (you can't)

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I wouldn't really recommend as arch as a starting point if you're serious about switching

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It's a pain in the ass to deal with

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At least when you're starting off

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But if you use an arch based os

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The experience would be pretty much the same as using a debian based os

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As least on average

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The only really notable differences would be to do with package management

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Arch has a more streamlined approach to package manager compared to debian

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But it's also a rolling release meaning that you get the most cutting edge of packages, but has the potential to be unstable

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In terms of packages management arch is less annoying than debian

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It also has pretty good documentation (same with debian really)

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You don't have to install arch from scratch

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Using an arch based distro works fine (as long as it's not Manjaro)

fast mango
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Yeah I say to use pika for debian

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Cachy for arch

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Pika is probably the most user friendly

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Even more so than cachy and maybe even nobara

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Nobara actually uses some repo from pika for something

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I forgot what exactly

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But pika does come up from time to time when I update

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I dont remember seeing it come up in a while but whatever

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Those are the three I think you should look at

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Cachy is really really lightweight but still has things to help you

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There is a gui for installing stuff and another that has some troubleshooting options and updating

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Nobara has some more things that help, but pika has the most

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I have not used pika though

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All I know is that it has the most things that make it easy for people new to linux use linux

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To rank them pika is 1, nobara 2, cachy 3, but they are all easy to get into

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Nobara package manager has a notification that tells you updates came out

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With cachy you have to remember to update but it is easy to do so

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The CachyOS Hello gui has an update button, or you can open the terminal and just type update

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ez

sand pecan
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I'm a upstream distro person

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so

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  1. Debian
  2. Arch
  3. Fedora
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I'm a minimalist so I just take the base distro and only install the absolute minimum

dusk kernel
# sand pecan 1. Debian 2. Arch 3. Fedora

I started my Linux journey with Mandrake (based on Red Hat, with KDE desktop) in the late 1990's, then in the early 2000's I changed to Fedora. Around 2006 (?) I started singing with a funk/rock band and my stage name was "Fedora Jones," but that was related to an opera I sang in around that same time and had nothing to do with Linux. So my point is... Fedora would have to really piss me off before I would change to a different distro. 😆

(I do have one box with Ubuntu Studio but I'm trying to convert that to Fedora Jam.)

sand pecan
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They're the best in their respective use cases

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omitted ubuntu because it's just debian but mid

flat axle
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alright so i got a debian based system ( mint ) everything is working okay except my nvidia drivers

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got them installed but no second monitor nor can i change my refresh rate

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its says unknown display looked it up on google and asked gpt no luck so far any tips ?

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thank you for ur time

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they were working before i updated the drivers via driver manager

sand pecan
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All I can say is

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Nvidia

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It's a pain in the ass

fast mango
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Steam os on the ps4

sand pecan
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My clipboard is crashing my apps now

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Wtf

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Reinstalled clipse

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Seems to work now

dusk kernel
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ARGH.... trying to get ssh and sudo and rsync to play well together is giving me a headache.

mortal totem
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What exactly is going wrong so far?

dusk kernel
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I'm trying to back up /etc, which (I assume) requires root/sudo permissions. The user I'm using can use sudo, but I haven't found a "good" way to make this work. It works if I type in the password, but ugh.

I have SSH keys setup on both machines and can login without passwords in both directions. I'm wondering if I need to setup keys for root so that sudo works? That's just a random thought.

After installing sshpass, I can put the password in a file and use "sshpass -f [file] rsync [the usual rsync stuff]" But I'd prefer to do this "the right way."

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I've tried adding a bit in sudoers to not require a password if using rsync. That didn't seem to make any difference..

mortal totem
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usually id say just use ssh keys and disable passwords for logins. what exactly is the error you are getting with rsync?

dusk kernel
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No error with rsync, I'm just required to type a password, then it works. So I think this is an ssh or sudo issue rather than rsync.

mortal totem
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what options are you using? did you try specifying a ssh key? or check that you are using the correct users

dusk kernel
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rsync -azh -e ssh --info=progress2 --delete src/etc/ dest/etc
... and....
rsync -azh -e ssh --info=progress2 --delete --rsync-path="sudo /usr/bin/rsync" src/etc/ dest/etc
... both require a password.

I'm using sudo to run the script for access to /etc/ on the source.

dusk kernel
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AH HA! I figured out something, by making random guess. It seems that I needed additional SSH keys for not just the regular user, but for "sudo [user]" also. I no longer need to enter the password after doing this:
Make SSH keys for regular user:
Login to server...
$ ssh user@server-ip
(input password then CTRL+D to logout)
$ ssh-keygen
([enter] three times for no passphrase)
Copy keys to server:
$ssh-copy-id user@server-ip

... AND THEN ALSO DO THIS....
Make SSH keys for "sudo user":
Login to server...
$ sudo ssh user@server-ip
(input password then CTRL+D to logout)
$ sudo ssh-keygen
([enter] three times for no passphrase)
Copy keys to server:
$ sudo ssh-copy-id user@server-ip

This probably also depends on something else I did. E.g., the script fails if I remove this from the rsync command:
--rsync-path="sudo /usr/bin/rsync"

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The jury is out on whether this is a hack or a bodge. [chuckle] And there are probably some security issues, but all machines are in the same house so I'm not too concerned.

So how horribly have I FUBAR'd my systems & network? 😆

fast mango
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Clickbait thumbnail

sand pecan
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Something something depends on use case

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Linux propaganda

fast mango
tight eagle
near maple
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  • thought that i should get a better looking greeter
  • switches from gdm to lightdm lightdm doesn't start
  • restarts my pc but it starts boot looping ( it doesn't reach my boot loader and couldn't enter bios ),
  • after hard shutting down my pc multiple times , i finally boot, but linux doesn't find the the uuid of the drive
  • after all of the bios settings were reset to default , i disable vmd and it works now
  • gets lightdm to work but the specific greeter doesn't work
  • gets the greeter to work , but it doesn't run hyprland after login it just loops back into itself
  • gives up and switches back to gdm

this is the peak linux experience i've wasted 6 hours to achieve absolutely nothing

near maple
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i got higher frame rates in cyberpunk on linux compared to windows , cuz i was cpu bottlenecked

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or rather ram bottlenecked

sand pecan
unreal raven
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How do i remove people from the popup list when sharing something on android

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Ex is still there after 4 months of her being blocked

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starting to pmo seeing her still there

fast mango
# unreal raven

There should be a toggle in the settings that turns suggested contacts off but idk about removing individual ones

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Maybe you have to remove the contact

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Perhaps remove and add again

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But with that name you probably won’t add again pieskull pieskull pieskull

fast mango
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Also latency when cpu bound too

fast mango
near maple
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uh did i download a zero click virus or something

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why does firefox random give me

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a checkmark gif download

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the other files are mine ignore them

sand pecan
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Could just be a default icon for a file type

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Might be a DE thing

fast mango
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It used to ask you every time by default but not anymore

near maple
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I Think its related to anki

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cuz i remember one time i clicked something randomly on the app anki and it prombted the download

sand pecan
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Turns out

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Winapps's UI doesn't mesh that well on tiling WMs

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But I do just run the "windows applet"

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Which just runs a xfreerdp session

fast mango
sand pecan
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lmao

dusk kernel
sand pecan
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Canonical should be next to windows

maiden pine
sand pecan
maiden pine
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Debian is like, "Read this manual to upgrade, good luck" where in fedora you just open GNOME software and click "get upgrade"

sand pecan
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That's a DE issue

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If you install KDE plasma on Debian or Arch or Fedora

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You will get more or less the same experience

maiden pine
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Yeah I'm saying it's not as easy to maintain as Fedora or Ubuntu. 🤷

I guess it wouldn't go next to arch or kali though so y'know

sand pecan
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It's quite the opposite

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It's supposed to be stable

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And in terms of easy package management...

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You can do that on Debian

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You just have to install the right software

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I don't use gnome so I can't say much about that but KDE Plasma should be pretty consistent across distributions

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I'd argue this has nothing to do with the distribution itself and everything to do with the desktop environment

proven mirage
sand pecan
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Personally would just use Debian

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But if it works for you it works for you

proven mirage
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I really want to use debian, but even Trixie doesn't have a new enough kernel version for my hardware, and I tried to update through backports in two different ways, but I broke the os so bad that I had to reinstall both times.

sand pecan
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Whatever works works

dusk kernel
dusk kernel
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I finally found a screenshot application that works on Wayland and functions very similarly to Gyazo: https://screencloud.net/

There's only one difference that I'll need to get used to. In Gyazo when selecting the rectangle of the screenshot, it automatically grabs the image when you release the mouse button. In ScreenCloud, the rectangle is selected, then you still need to tap Enter to save the image. That means an extra hand motion. But you can move the rectangle around before tapping Enter.

So yeah... if you were looking for a way to share screenshots on a Wayland system, now you have a candidate to check out. 😁 Does anyone know of other similar applications?

ScreenCloud - Easy screenshot sharing

ScreenCloud - Easy screenshot sharing

fast mango
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I just use spectacle

sand pecan
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I use hyprshot

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Extremely minimal

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It's just a square region

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Drag and select and it saves automatically

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I have mod + print screen binded to rectangle region screenshot

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And print screen binded to full screenshot

urban atlas
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hey how do i download linux on my laptplo

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laptop

tight eagle
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Usb

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Floppy disk

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CD

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DVD

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Flash the iso to it

urban atlas
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I have a usb stick with me, is it like downloading windows on a usb but its linux?

tight eagle
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From the distro's official website

urban atlas
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distro watch?

tight eagle
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Use Rufus or balena etcher

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Distro watch is not a distro

urban atlas
tight eagle
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I just use the top one so I have it installed

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P if you don't wanna install it

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X86 if you can't use more than 4gb of ram on your computer or arm64 if you can't use x86 apps on your computer

urban atlas
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Yea my laptp has 32gb of ram

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its a asus vivibook oled

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but my class is full so there making me install linux on my laptop ;/

tight eagle
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Whar

urban atlas
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yea it was that or me dropping the coarse

tight eagle
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I don't get it

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Does the course require access to a Linux system

urban atlas
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its like first come first serve type basis for the linux

urban atlas
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I got my usb stick plugged in, now what? i install balena etcher onto it?

tight eagle
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Why does the class being full mean you have to install it on your laptop

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Rufus/balena etcher are for flashing ISOs onto the flash drive

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Is there a specific requirement of what Linux distro you need?

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I just get to the official download of whatever distro I'm thinking about using from Wikipedia usually, they link the official site on the distro's article

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint?wprov=sfla1

Linux Mint

Linux Mint is a community-developed Linux distribution based primarily on Ubuntu, with an alternative version based on Debian known as Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE). It is available for x86-64 systems, while LMDE also supports the IA-32 architecture. First released in 2006, Linux Mint is often noted for its ease of use, out-of-the-box functio...

urban atlas
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so with the linux in school we use the bash powershell

tight eagle
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This is what I'm gonna install on things

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Bash is in most distros I guess so you can choose what you want

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I think mint would be a good option

urban atlas
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alrighty

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is mint easy to use?

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and am i still able to use like microsoft word on linux? and microsoft 365?

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oh yea this is what i use in school

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tight eagle
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I watch someordinarygamers and he recommends mint as the easiest thing to make the switch

urban atlas
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Is Ubuntu under mint?

tight eagle
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Different distro

urban atlas
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yea thats what we use in class is ubuntu

tight eagle
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Might as well use what the class is using I suppose

urban atlas
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Yea so do i just download it on my usb stick?

tight eagle
tight eagle
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You can find a video tutorial about flashing ISOs if you need a visual guide

sand pecan
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I use a remote windows vm

urban atlas
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i can set that up once i get this downloaded

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?

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once i have ubuntu download i download balencetecher and thenchoose Ubuntu?

tight eagle
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Doesn't matter which order you download the iso and the flash utility

urban atlas
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oh ight

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Like this?

tight eagle
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Yep

urban atlas
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perfect! after this ill prolly do a remote windows vm

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for i can use word

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i only need it for notes ngl so if theres a app for notes ill just use it

tight eagle
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So once it's done, you can close BE, eject the flash drive, and power off the computer to be rebooted into the flash drive, if you don't have anything on your system currently that you want to save or back up before getting started with the installation

smoky fable
urban atlas
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will it automatically reboot into the flash drive? or do i need to plyug the usb back in

urban atlas