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Or so they say at least
Idk how you download it anymore now that they changed a bunch of crap
VMware workstation is what I use on Windows, but I use Boxes on Linux.
Is anyone familiar with audio functionality on Ubuntu? I had an Ubuntu Studio 20.04 system that I used for what is basically karaoke, streamed to a stream server. It all worked well, and is now (hopefully) my backup system.
I've built a new system with Ubuntu Studio 24.04, but I can't figure out how to save the audio mixer settings so that they survive a reboot. I can tweak the mixer settings using alsamixer, and save them using $sudo alsactl store but the settings revert if I reboot.
I suspect that the issue is related to Pipewire since the old system didn't have Pipewire. I'm tempted to rip out Pipewire, but first, I wanted to at least try to find out if there's a better way than alsamixer to set mixer levels. Maybe I just need to use the correct pipewire app to set the levels? Any suggestions on what sets/stores audio mixer levels on Ubuntu?
Ah, I can’t remember what the mixer is called but I have one and it works between reboots
I used to be so familiar with Jack and all, I’ve switched to pipe wire and I’m not looking back, but honestly, i just ignore it. No complicated things like jack had
Sorry, that’s not helpful. I’ll try to look tomorrow night
If Pipewire can handle what I'm doing, I'm willing to give it a shot. Pix are 2 desktops not 2 monitors.
I think "WirePlumber" is the droid I'm looking for because it's the session manager for PipeWire. So, I'll try to read up on that at some point. For now, I just need to get the mixer settings to save reliably.
No, WirePlumber won't help because I've already removed all the Pipewire stuff that can be removed. duh. 🤦♂️
I've been trying login/logout scripts in KDE but that hasn't worked yet.
I THINK I finally found something that will work. "RaySession," the session manager I'm using, has the ability to run user-editable scripts. There is 1 script each for when the session is loaded, saved, or closed.
in load.sh – alsactl restore -f /home/dude/Audio_Settings/asound.state
in close.sh – alsactl store -f /home/dude/Audio_Settings/asound.state
I discovered an iso named bodhi linux, which could be used to recover files when any operating system is corrupted.
Is it a good idea?
Depending on the reason for the corruption, any Linux could be used for that. There's lots of recovery tools.
Oh!
I thought in this, ui will be simple
Because it runs on the operating system disk so it's easy to get files
Other than Linux, which runs on Live USB
If file recovery is your goal then you really don't want to boot from the drive you're trying to recover
The OS is constantly writing files so it's quite likely that whatever you try to recover gets more and more corrupted, with worsening corruption the longer the disk is used
Copying from the Operating System disk to the longer disk through any means of recovery maybe a good option for me
Thank you for the information!
This is my favorite ISO for system recovery: https://www.system-rescue.org/
But, like Fal'Cie said, nearly any Linux ISO could be used for that.
There's also "Hiren's BootCD PE" that runs on a Windows interface:
https://www.hirensbootcd.org/
It's been years since I used hbcd
Huh. It used to run on Windows XP, but now it runs off Win11 PE. Interesting.
And that's a recent development at that. First version appears to be from March this year.
I used HBCD once a month or two ago and it was very useful for that one account recovery issue. So if a Windows interface is needed, it seems like a good tool. I still lean towards SystemRescueCD for anything on Linux.
This is the best "bootable ISO" tool of them all...
https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.
I hate Google advertising so much
Guess what I just got an ad for not 5 minutes after reading that message on my computer?
That's right I got an ad on my phone for Ventoy.
I don't even know where Google got that information that I just saw this thing
It was never spoken aloud and Discord is closed on my phone
I didn't even know that Ventoy had something to sell.
Google needs to chill the eff out.
That just scrapes their site and spits it onto a page
Then loads it up with so many ads you can't read it
That seems pretty UN-useful. LOL
That's modern media for you
Try going to a news site without an ad blocker and see how quickly you get frustrated
I feel like something similar happened to me recently... I saw or bought something online, then saw an ad for it in the weather app on my phone.
Ya gotta love ads for stuff you already bought. 🤦♂️ 😆
oh geez, noooooo... gotta keep uBlock Origin installed everywhere. heh heh
Well if you bought it once you might buy another. Even if it's something you typically buy once a decade like a garbage disposal. Yes that's bait for another ad.
In case anyone doubts
I was also recently talking about energy drinks in another server, funny how that works
The 7800X3D ad is fair I google that like 5 times a day in some variety
This just popped up in my youtube feed and I haven't been searching for anything on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBnDWSvaQ1I
Follow up video: https://youtu.be/kv8gvXPwWjY
Does Google and Facebook listen in and record conversations and audio even when they're not open? I perform a live test using Google chrome on a Windows 10 PC to discover whether my microphone appears to be recording me even when my browser is turned off in order to better target advertisements.
A...
You so craaaazy. LOL But congratulations!
This is the system I recently overhauled and upgraded.
I tweaked the "JACK patchbay" theme in the upper left of the 1st image. I also finally found a WM theme that provided the ability to setup the active/inactive colors the way I wanted.
What kind of audio work are you doing?
Basically it's "virtual karaoke." 😆 VLC plays a karaoke track (instrumental version of a song without lead vocal, with or without the lyrics in the video), I sing... it get's mixed together and streamed to a server. That audio stream is then accessed by folks in Second Life. Yes, Second Life is still around. [chuckle]
It's still running ontop of android
LineageOS 21
Got rid of the samsung bloat os
Things I learnt: samsung hates you putting custom roms on their devices
Yeah, they need to keep you in their walled garden. :-D
I occasionally ponder rooting my old S5 just for the heck of it. Maybe some day.
It's a bit more hassle since they have their own bootloader instead of using fastboot
it's web based so it also works on windows and macos
i probably should have posted this one channel above but whatever
Wow
Android owners, how do u do a full image backup of ur Android devices without root / with a locked bootloader ?
possibly related questions:
- is it possible to unlock a carrier locked bootloader ?
- if not, can u root with a locked bootloader ?
- if yes, can u "un-root" back to stock ?
Answers in order of the questions asked:
You can't. You can do adb backup but that's the extent of it. It'll save your app data and such at least but it'll only restore to the same device on the same OS version.
Sometimes you can unlock it. Depends on the device and carrier.
No, rooting requires access to system files. It also requires you to fully reset your device.
You can remove root at any time but you have to flash a stock image in order to re-lock the bootloader.
The closes you can probably get is an app like smart switch as a backup, but it doesn't transfer everything
thanks much for your answers 🙏
great thanks I was just gonna ask what the best backup methods are for Android
I'm a Linux newbie, but I feel like my PopOS install is acting up
Sometimes at random the screen will go black for a few seconds and go back to normal, don't know why this happens
When I have a game set to fullscreen, at random points the game will automatically minimize for some reason. Don't know why
tried looking this stuff up on Google and couldn't find much
Check your cables for a loose one
Just a couple of random thoughts for things to check.:
- For the screen going blank I'd check power save settings because maybe that's turning off your monitor? But that will depend on what you are doing when the screen goes blank.
- random minimizing might be a hotkey combo being triggered. Again, it depends on what you're doing when it happens. E.g., if you're not using your keyboard when the game minimizes, it's unlikely that a hotkey combo did it. 😁
guys I have an ubuntu server and I want to know my device specifications how do I do that?
Searching for "ubuntu system information" lead me to:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/31618/how-can-i-find-my-hardware-details
Has anyone used Hyprland here?
Literally blinding wtf
Does it actually work?
Yeah
It's a bit janky with ghost windows but it works
That could be down to to the wm I'm using
This is what I used
Wonder if it works with steamos
Basically it's vm magic
You probably could get it working with steamos
If it can run a vm you can probably run this
Looks like it's based on Debian
I'm running this on arch
Maybe it will work lol
Yeah
Literally pretty much the only stepping stone I would need for a daily driver SteamOS machine lol
yeah I'm trying to get rid of my dual boot altogether
Does anyone have a suggestion why I get the following error message while trying to upgrade one Fedora/KDE system, but didn't get it on the other 3 systems I upgraded? Or does anyone have a suggestion how to fix the error?
$ sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=40 -y
[lots of stuff]
Error: Transaction test error:
file /usr/share/applications/kcm_trash.desktop from install of kio-extras-24.05.2-1.fc40.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kf5-kio-core-5.116.0-2.fc39.x86_64
Update kio-core and kio-extras then try the command again. It looks like a version mismatch.
I'm upgrading from Fedora 39 to 40. I've updated before starting the upgrade and reinstalled kio-core and kf5-kio-extras. Still getting the error.
Looks like that's a file associated with KDE desktop
Though I'm not sure in what way
Correct....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIO
KIO (KDE Input/Output) is a system library incorporated into KDE Frameworks and KDE Software Compilation 4. It provides access to files, web sites and other resources through a single consistent API. Applications, such as Konqueror and Dolphin, which are written using this framework, can operate on files stored on remote servers in exactly the...
This seems to have allowed the upgrade transaction to complete:
$ sudo rpm -e --nodeps kf5-kio-core
On to the next step! Wheeeeee! LOL
Upgrade is done... Now I get to find the random things that are different now that the upgrade changed me to Wayland.
The first issue I'm seeing is that the login screen had an error about some Qt package not being installed. So I'm download some new options.
Gyazo doesn't work on Wayland. Yay.
How do i install kali nethunter on redmi 6 pro?
Do you have it rooted, the bootloader unlocked, and a recovery environment installed? Are you trying to dual boot or replace the OS?
Average #linux-and-android conversation
Real
My contribution to gaming on linux
an actual game to play
its also on windows but who cares about that
To be fair gaming on linux has come a long way
most of the games in my library work via proton
it's gotten a lot easier too
with the right proton versions most games work out of the box
sometimes it'll take a couple launch commands and custom proton builds
but gaming on linux is pretty viable these days
anticheat software are still a pain tho
valid
im talking like native support and stuff, its definetley getting better but still has a bit more to go
@bold pumice i got muted for being adhd
they really need to fix that
but i think the main point of that distro is for android to run it with hardware acceleration as otherwise theres a lot of lag
Fix what now? What muted you, Discord itself or Dyno, and why?
i think a 2 hour mute for
5 messages
is rather harsh
how does that work lol
I didn't know that was even a thing tbh
when did that rule start? lol
Ah the fast message spam rule, I'll take a look
Should be unmuted now
thx
I changed the rule so it shouldn't trigger for you again
You're special
It won't trigger for you either 😉
We're special
what are some of the downsides of moving to linux
aldo if i ever seotch to linux and then want to seotch back to windows how hard will that be
and will my files all be okay
You can have a second SSD with some sort of linux on it and double-boot
Buuuuut you're probably gonna get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of stuff with linux if you jump in blind
You can also multi boot with only one drive
Heck you can run Linux off a USB drive to give it a test run if you wanted
Isn't it generally smart to keep different OSes on separate drives?
Ideally yes but it's not difficult to partition a drive, even one that's currently in use
Even this option has two options. 😁 You can install the ISO as a "Live USB" version to your USB drive or any external drive that you can boot from. You can then use that "Live USB" to install Linux onto an external drive just like you would have if it were a regular internal drive.
If you're trying out Linux for the first time, I suggest keeping it as separated from your Windows installation as possible. That will give you the freedom to play with Linux (i.e. screw it up so much that you need to reinstall, LOL) and avoid the stress of worrying about screwing up your working Windows installation.
With a live USB you can create a persistence file so any changes you make are saved too. Ubuntu would be a good one to start with, and they make it easy to set up persistence.
That's another good option! I can't remember... can the Live USB be updated like an actual installation?
Some programs straight up don't work. If I didn't need SolidWorks, my laptop would be Linux already
It's unfortunate how all the good Proton did to games didn't translate to professional apps
This man never holds back
https://wccftech.com/linuxs-creator-linus-torvalds-calls-out-intel-amd-nvidia-for-buggy-hardware/
New Intel LAM that débuts on the chips launching this week already has a bunch of attack vectors against it and it's not even out yet
The exploits even have names already
Like SLAM
Heya, I'm haveing a weird problem when running linux. I'm using Zorin and whenever I'm playing games they're not detecting all of my key presses. I have to hit my movement keys 2 or 3 times before they'll register and I know it's not my keyboard because they work fine everywhere else like when I'm typing or using other software. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening and how to rectify it?
What CPU do you have
sorry for the delay in responding. I'm using a ryzen 7 5700x
I think I fixed it
I had to turn on a setting to limit mouse operations to the game window
and now the keyboard presses are being detected 😄
Ah good. My guess would have been the AM4 USB dropout issue.
I turned on the option to "limit mouse operations to the game window" and it fixed the keyboard input problem 😄
is that in the steam launch options?
Nope it's within the game itself
ohh
I use adobe for video editing and i cant live without muh hdr. i need an excuse to switch to linux. Is there any support for issues like these or programs to download?
Me deleting microsoft edge's files and a few weeks redirecting me to using edge after clicking a link.. nah
Ye can’t avoid edge with windows
Adobe doesn't work on linux
There are alternatives but you will have to get used to a new workflow
Any alternatives youd recommend?
Davinci resolve is the most popular one
Personally I haven't used it enough to really recommend it but
It's better than the open source alternatives
Also are there any other software you need for your workflow?
Like MS Office?
Ive never touched office ever
I am a bit worried about game compatibility tho
I know steamdeck uses linux
Well
But
Eeing how you got a 7900GRE
most games would work
With minor tweaks
Usually most of the time you just have to select the right proton version
Protondb is very helpful for that
There's also custom proton versions
Mkay
These are really helpful as well
Id be fine downloading software too
Linux gaming have gotten a lot better
It's easier to run games than software
If only it carried over...
If only
Idk, as much as i love the compatibility and customization windows just has too much compatibility with the stuff i use right now (monopoly moment), although the second linux starts having a bit more to offer im jumping ship
Yeah I wouldn't switch to linux in your case tbh
Once you're used to the adobe ecosystem
It takes a lot of time to switch
And alternatives aren't always good
I still prefer premiere
I am, but recently ive had a lot of trouble with the stupid hour+ file issues i have with premiere pro
Worse
Typical
Is your scratch disk full perhaps?
Lmao
I usually reinstall windows every 6 months because it just self destructs after a while
No i havent, reinstalled it about 4 months ago tho
hmmmmmmmmm
Makes sense
Yeah I've done it so much that I don't even install my software to C:/ anymore
I do a fresh install and I'm almost straight back to work
That was my first time reinstalling
C drive was honestly another concern with linux too
Since im lazy

What do you mean?
It is a bit bare bones right now tho so wouldnt be the worst time to switch
I'd start by partitionion the disks
Also I'd recommend having a separate software partition for windows
I actually dont know what partitioning means
Basically you split your physical drive into different parts
Honestly I'd keep windows for now
I planned on it
Have you debloated?
Not particularly
I dont have a seperate drive to hold everything
Maybe some of the peeps in #general-chat or #building-and-recc-chat could help you from this point on
Sorry
small group ruining it for everyone else :/
"Instead of actually putting in the time to make our anti-cheat actually do what it's supposed to, we're just going to block an entire set of devices" is all I'm hearing
It doesn't even identify cheaters on Windows devices correctly
You might as well block all windows devices for the same reason...
game companys arent our friends and theyve made that very clear from the get go
To be fair I'd imagine it's pretty hard to make your own anticheat and easyanticheat apparently is vulnerable on linux
They did specify that a disproportionate amount of cheaters and cheat developers were working on Linux.
I'duch rather blame the cheaters than the devs. Cheating (in multiplayer pvp games) is absolute scum and ruins the experience for everyone else
They say they can't tell if players are playing on a legit steamdeck/linux build or not but go on to say they weighed it based on the number of legit steamdeck / legit players and decided that there weren't enough
If you can't verify their legitimacy how could you make an informed decision?
But I suppose by sheer numbers, there are more people using windows than linux
Not sure how likely banning linux in general from participating will "meaningfully" reduce the instances of cheating though, if EAC is barely able to identify cheaters on windows
It won't, it's just an excuse to stop development for a smaller part of the market
Like I said earlier, it sounds like a majority of cheat developers were also utilizing linux
You can compile executables for other operating systems when you write them 
What fal said
It wouldn't be a huge jump in logic to use the same reasoning to ban windows and only allow consoles to play
By sheer numbers alone, the number of cheaters on Windows is statistically much more numerous than on linux
Also, how do you define cheats that make a significant impact?
I'd say DDoS and aimbot fall under those categories which are the most common cheats I've seen
i can pretty much guarantee that all cheats on console games were developed on either windows, linux, or macos, and not on the console itself 
Also true
Ban consoles
No one gets to play apex
And maybe that's better for everyone-
They can finally work on Titanfall 3 then
Well yes of course. But Respawn said a disproportionate amount of Linux users were cheating.
(and like I said earlier it sounds like supporting Linux was allowing cheats to be developed easier)
i wonder how they calculated it though
if it were by percentage, then like if there were 10 players on linux, and one of them cheated, that would be 10% of linux users cheated, while there would be way more users on windows, say like 1000 users, and 10 people cheat, then that would be 1% of users cheat
honestly it wouldnt really be any easier to cheat on linux than windows
but linux users would be more tech savvy and would have a much higher chance for an average linux gamer to be able to use cheats, compared to the average windows user who probably dont even know what the control panel is
There are exactly zero sources cited so I can only assume they pulled numbers out of thin air
If they actually had anything to back up their claims I would believe you
As far as we all know, this is their source
If you make an argument your statements need some form of support or validity or it falls apart immediately
They're also just bad at detecting cheaters in the first place so how would they even know
There's going to be a heavy bias in the data too, because each OS does kernel level stuff differently and reports differently
So it could very well just be more detected cheaters used Linux just because it's easier to detect on Linux
Statistics is funny
Percentages basically mean nothing
As Mr tech Jesus says
15% temperature difference in Kelvin vs celcius is a massive difference
But they're the same thing
They just don't wanna dedicate the manpower to develop for linux when they can make another crappy cod reskin
Do you even know what game and developer is being talked about here?
apex?
Like I do think apex has fallen off but how is it a crappy cod reskin?
well I was more talking about the industry as a whole
Oh fair enough
Personally idc if they add $300 heirloom skins or whatever. It's a free game with no pay to win mechanics. I do care that the matchmaking is terrible and the servers are still 20hz
I used to be a huge fan but since I stopped playing regularly, every time I try to come back and play a few matches I'm just getting rolled by either smurfs or players ranked higher than I ever was at my "peak"
Maybe hackers too. Killcams are so bugged though it's hard to tell
well that's the problem really
they're milking the game with extra content
they're willing to add all that content except for stuff that might fix the game
the game industry is increasingly on a "quantity over quality" model
They're adding new skins or slightly changed modes over actual fixes
that also goes for minecraft
the game runs like crap yet all they're doing is adding medicore content updates that add nothing to the game
the existence of sodium and optifine proves that they can fix the game
they just don't
to be fair they do it because it works unfortunately
especially since cyberpunk
as much as i love quality, i cant deny that people are always looking for a new experience
poor cyberpunk honestly, such a great game to have such a rough start like that
true
developers are being pushed so hard
thats pretty much most big titles nowadays tho
like
which sucks
it's not the devs' fault that the game is released in an unfinished state
it's the studios
mhm
and then the chain reaction occured
what was the name of that dookie "AAAA" game ea or whatever released
idk its just annoying how bad big titles are now
yeah
theyre all graphics mid gameplay
dev teams don't get enough time or resources to fully realize their vision
all because studios want to meet a stupid deadline
indie game devs i feel like are whats gonna save the game industry tbh
Concord
bleh
Very bleh
oh yeah that existed
Died before it even hit the market
if the souls series ever goes to crap i know we're doomed
they can make they unfinished games idgaf, im not so impatient that i cant wait the week for them to patch their game
i dont preorder ANYTHING with how the market is
i wait for people to find the bugs so i can dive in and enjoy the game how its meant to be played
Why is it okay they release one unfinished
AAA studios should not release unfinished products
maybe indie studios yes
If they do, again that's the end of video games
no, but i also think people kinda dont help the issue by buying early when we know these companys pull this crap
I don't buy AAA UNLESS they're on sale
should treat day 1 release as the beta and wait for the first patches
same
the only way this is acceptable is if they're early access indie titles
or if theyre just amazing value
If they're charging $80 for a game
we need some more titanfall 2s rn tbh
no way it should be unfinished
It shouldn't be this way but unfortunately it is
like I have to pay rent
Stupid studios
I'm not spending $80 on crap
i cant say anything
Dumb corporate
I mean
but not paying stupid money
game demos should be a thing again
lethal company is another example
that's a moral grey area that the mods don't like you talking about
It's more that it's a newegg affiliated server
so they wouldn't want their brand to be associated with piracy
true
although i doubt official newegg ever checks this stuff
and the people here are the people who like newegg anyway
well we still shouldn't be talking about piracy anyways
at least not in the server
lol
You'd be surprised, admins pop in pretty frequently to check that things are running smoothly
And yes demos should be a thing again instead of relying on random people on youtube to promote your gameplay
I ❤️ game demos
I don't get excited for steam summer and winter sales anymore, I get excited for Next Fest
At least with steam you can buy a game and refund it, that's the closest we've gotten for a while
yeah
Steam's one of the rare instances where they actually try to do stuff that benefits the consumer
chrome os aka linux was made in 2009 exposed so discord will you drop support for it then hmm
What???
Just another troll
ok that's reassuring
that was quite literally one of the most non sensical things I've ever read
Based on their previous messages my assumption is they're feigning being upset at Discord not supporting Windows 7 so they're making far reaching arguments like "Chrome OS was made in 2009 too" (even though it's a totally different thing)
And you can still use Discord in the browser so it's a straw man argument
It annoys me so much because like
that comment shows a fundamental misunderstanding on linux
as if it's anything like windows
It's different on the deepest levels
Isn't discord linux an electron webapp anyways
to be fair to discord
they're probably dropping discord support for windows 7 for security reasons more than anything
or else you might get a case like windows xp where you get a virus the instant you connect the internet
It's pretty ancient and isn't getting security updates any more. And I like living on the edge, connecting my Win98 PCem box to the Internet. Not that it knows what to do with it.
discord somehow barely is even capable of maintaining their clients to be usable, how are you gonna expect them to also support windows 7 ong
discord mobile just doesnt work half the time i swear
weird cropping, things not loading
Don't forget when it only shows 1/2 of an image and you have to rotate your phone twice to get it to show the whole thing
Don't forget when it fails to send messages when you lose network for one second
and you have to restart the app just to get it to send
They also change the ui every 2 months for no good reason
Is gyazo not working on Wayland for anyone else? Or am I just the "lucky" one?
am thinking of installing arch linux on a virtual machine and have fun with it 😎
i heard its pretty customizable
looks fun
Bare metal it
what does that mean
its my will my first experience using linux btw
i will try to list out goals i want to achieve , and try my best to achieve them
Running it directly on the hardware rather than using a vm
You can dual boot, so if you want to use Linux, you can boot on that partition, and if you want to use windows, boot into that partition
my laptop doesn't even have a spare slot for any drives , neither m.2 or sata
can i partition my drive
Yes, if you have enough free space to shrink the existing partitions (or if you backup everything then reformat the drive)
am not down for any reformating but i have spare space
107 gb is enough?
i can free up more
The problem isn't that you don't have spare space, the problem is that "free space" you're talking about is already a part of the partition, so windows might not allow you to shrink the partition to make space for a new partition
100gb should be enough space though
ok ill try to get arch linux installed tmrw
If you have USB3, you can install linux on an external drive and it'll be usable. USB2 works, but it's slower due to data transfer speeds.
I think I installed windows on an sd card once
Windows won't let you do that normally but you can set it up as a Windows To Go installation, where the core OS files are located on the local system (or net boot) and any user changes like files and programs are on the external device.
That way it's like a portable OS customized exactly how you want and able to boot on any WTG ready computer
Yeah tbh I’m not sure how I did it I just remember it being terrible
It's a steep learning curve but once you've gotten used to it arch is really customizable
I've been using arch for 4 years now
ok so
i tried
but
it for some reason doesn't show any partition that is on my ssd
it only showed the usb partition
what ccould be the issue here
but i had my fun connecting the wifi and pinging google 😎
hacker
i used the cfdisk tool
and it only showed one partition
which was a 15gb partitions , and i dont have any partition this size on my pc , its probably usb stick
You're probably missing a driver for your storage controller
Linux drivers are different from Windows ones
Most of them are included in the kernel itself but some of the less common ones aren't
i was installing linux tho , i didn't expect to download linux drivers before installing linux
Yep, welcome to 'nix lol
tbf you need to do the same with Windows sometimes
Especially wifi drivers
where do i look for the drivers i need
and how do i install them from windows
or do i install them while in the arch linux terminal thingy 👴
You would load them from terminal
As for which ones you need, what motherboard do you have?
its a laptop motherboard
Ok, which laptop model
Gotcha. Ok there's a well known issue with this setup. In your BIOS, what is your NVMe mode set to? AHCI is required, because RAID/Optane is not supported.
WARNING: Toggling this may break Windows
how do i check
I'm not familiar with Acer BIOS but it should be under some sort of "storage configuration" menu
Yep we're just checking the setting to see if it'll work at all
ok ill go check
i tried looking it up and apparently acer hides the setting unless you click crtl+s which shows the settings , but when i do that it doesn't show the sata type setting it just some other unrelated settings
isn't there a manual for the bios
or something
Sometimes but it's usually useless
Intel RST, you're on RAID mode
Options are reinstall Windows with AHCI, prepare Windows to swap to AHCI by pre-loading the driver, or just go with your original plan and use a VM
i saw an ltt video about it just now , and they said i can get ahci to by just doing a registry edit , but am not even sure how to even the find the setting on my laptop , so ig ill just go with vm
i've seen tutorials but they are not the same exact acer model and they don't work
The setting might be along the lines of "intel rapid storage", which would need to be disabled
i tried over 4 times
whats the issue here
i tried to to boot from the virtual drive , it asked for a loggin through terminal
and when i logged in using the information from the install , it did nothing?
man this is hard 😭
and it doesn't look that hard in the tutorials i just come across soo many issues
Using arch install is cheating Ong you're supposed to read documentation for a million hours
this toke up enough time for today , i will try tmrw
Also VirtualBox sucks
If you're to use a VM, use VMware workstation
It's free to use now
Always check your mirrorlist folks
I used a default mirrorlist generated by reflector and my packages corrupted
Had to reinstall
Oh yeah also one more rule; always verify the checksum to make sure that you haven't gotten malware and/or corrupted download
Arch is Linux on hard mode
But if you REALLY want to learn how Linux works that's the way to do it
That's expert mode
I 100% agree with that learning linux part
Linux's gotten so much easier for me since I've used arch
Hard is still doable if you're determined, expert is just "I want to hate my life"
I've gone from pasting commands to actually learning how those commands do
Arch wiki is a really good learning tool
Man is your best friend
That statement can work both in and out of context
lmao
what is fat 32
what is swap
what is root
what is the point of the 3 partitions i've made
tryna understand what am doing while installing arch
also when i list the the mirrors it doesn't name the assosiated country
i just looked up the servers on arch wiki
A common file system that originated on Windows 95 and is still used frequently in smaller partitions
When your memory fills up, it uses swap space on the disk instead to prevent programs from crashing. Some programs need swap to function (rare).
This can refer to either the user root, which is like a super-admin, or the base folder in a partition (think C:)
Tip: I'd partition with a GUI partitioner
i partioned with cfdisk
The FAT32 partition will be where you store boot files
Swap is needed for low memory systems and certain programs
Root is where you'll have your OS and Data
Do you have an existing fat32 partition?
i partioned it in a virtual machine
The EFI partition needs to be FAT32 so the BIOS can read out of it
Oh
I was more referring to the windows efi
Assuming that he had one
i can't figure out where to change the sata type on my acer
But since he's on a vm
thats why i just went with vm
Probably not
Ah you missed the part where we couldn't figure out how to disable Intel RST so the laptop is effectively incompatible with Linux
And even if RST was disabled it would require changes in Windows to keep it from breaking or a reinstall
Oof
trying waydroid
gonna try to run the android versions of ms office
rather than running a windows vm
Wow that's a roundabout way of doing it
I'd rather just use libreoffice personally
headings and reference lists work weirdly
I don't want to end up editing someone's word formatted document and then messing it up with libreoffice formatting
This is true, but it won't be much better in the droid apps, even on actual hardware
it'll eat up less battery than a windows vm
Have you considered wine
does it work on wine?
What version of office do you have
Yeah it works fine
Yes this is Office 365, the 2024 version running on wine 9.0.
More discussion on this: https://new.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1bwy2xv/latest_office_365_working_on_ubuntu_2204_with/
oh wow it's up to date as well
nvm they tricked me with the mac skin
apparently they're using paid libaries
Maybe this one then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8fNQp2Hw4
This time it is Wine 9.14. Super smooth and lot of bugs fixed. Office365 is completely useable in wine now a days and I use it for my work.
Eh same account I just realized
There are multiple people stating that they have it working on 22.04 at least
hmm
I might consider getting a separate work laptop with windows and wsl instead
just for compatibility sakes
Whats wrong 😭
You need to tell grub where the /boot/efi folder is. I forget the command and I'm delirious right now.
Did you mount the efi partition to /boot?
You're always delirious... it's just a matter of degrees. I can only say that because it also applies to me. 😆
yes
man i already hate terminals
when ever i do something inolving terminal ITS 100% confirmed that something will go wrong fr 😭
thats not even an exagerration
and the worst part isn't the issue is that am too dumb at coding to understand the solution
how to ungray this
ok
i've instald grub
i think i can boot now
maybe
uh is this linux is this arch
have i succeded or failedd
am soo confused
i don't think this is arch
You installed grub
You mistyped the command
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=GRUB
You typed efi-director
Also did you make the grub config?
yes i did
waity
While you had all the system partitions mounted
You have grub installed but it doesn't know that there are any OSes
yes i did
was the linux partition mounted?
is that the root partition or the efi partition
if it was any of these , yes i did have them mounted
It doesn't matter
They just need to be mounted
Also did you do "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in chroot?
yes i did
Try it again
it still only shows uefi firmware
i looked it up and saw some one suggesting that i might have not have kernel installed
is linux kernal installed when i use "# pacstrap -K /mnt base linux linux-firmware"
if yes , i should have it installed
if no , then might not have it installed
yes
grub-mkconfig would not have detected it if it wasn't installed
Are you sure you don't have 2 efi partitions or something
she grub on my efi till i boot
yea
wait let me just confirm
The grub is turning into a butterfly
You can't change the hardware while the computer is running, and it's the same for a VM
yea i realised that
does the average arch linux installation go this horribley
if so , i get why its one of the hardest to install 😭
For people who have never installed arch?
Probably
Assuming also they have no experience with Linux and command line
Its one of the most confusing to use for people who don't like commandline
Like me
I would not touch arch with a 6 foot pole
It took me a couple reinstalls to get my first arch install working
and even then it had issues
arch linux is a hobby not a distro
Eh
If you install everything manually, it's more of a hobby, but if you use archinstall, then it's more like most other distros
true
and to be fair using archinstall still doesn't take much away from the experience
if you want to install a different DE or kernel you still can
Still way better than arch-based distros imo
I myself am not a fan of manjaro because it's pretty jank
they try to do too much
I like to keep my installs simple
less things that can go wrong
wait
grub detected arch
and ran it
and it toke me to a new terminal 🎉
can't get enough of them
anyway
is that linux
its cuz i didn't make the grub.cfg file , i made it now
chat is this real
how do i instal sudo
i looked it up and
when i ran pacman -Sy sudo
it did't work
so i pinged google
and realised
i don't have internet
i looked up how to connect to the internet
and it required the sudo command
???
how
usually grub-mkconfig makes it
anyways you need to install more packages for internet and sudo
go back to the arch live iso
chroot into the install
then pacman -S sudo NetworkManager
then nano /etc/sudoers and then add your user to it
its cuz i started over
i forgot to use grub mkcongif
fig
config
i use vim 😎
whats the diffrence aren't they all the same
ok
vim is just vi with colours
Different workflow
That's it really
It's a text editor so I just use the least annoying ones
Too lazy to pull up the cheat sheet
Now you're cooking
this is unusable , i gotta run it barebones
the performance is soo bad
ill try to look on a way to dual boot
i will where can i find the sata type setting
virtualbox moment
You can use an external drive so you don't need to mess with BIOS or your Windows install. Linux is perfectly happy running off a USB drive, as long as it's reasonably fast.
My arch install died for the second time this month
Package managers are so nice
Unlike windows I don't have to reinstall everything individuall
I just have get a text file with a list of programs and bam
There are programs in windows to automate it as well but it's not as good (and not built in) like on some Linux distros
Hell, Microsoft also made a first party package manager
Winget
Winget fr
what speed is workable
how big the drive should be
I've booted linux off a hard drive
It's a lot less picky than windows
Speed doesn't matter too much
Most USB 3.0 drives will work. 2.0 will be too slow. At least 32GB to have room to play around, Linux doesn't take much.
how compatable are windows apps with linux
i will try to use linux from a thumbdrive
do i need to reinstall my apps
stuff like discord / firefox
can i get them working in BOTH windows and linux and having them both synced
if i could get everything working , imo ill main linux and only boot to windows if soemthing really requires it
Yes, easily. You just install and sign in to both.
define sync
Most services now have syncing built in but that requires accounts ofc
I wonder if symlinks would work with programs
Though it probably wouldn't be stable on software on windows and Linux
But theoretically if the software uses the same file format on both windows and Linux, wouldn't you technically be able to symbolically link the folders and have it be synced on whether you access it from Windows or linux
Usually the issue with that is temporary files and caches mismatching
even steam proton games have trouble with using the same partition as windows
I'd keep stuff separate in case of shenanigans
most online services will sync
there is always WSL
if you want the best workflow WSL would be relatively hassle free
The fact that it took this long to exploit GRUB is amazing
On a Fedora 41 + KDE system that I use for audio/music stuff, I have one application (RaySession) that opens several other applications and manages the connections between them. In the past I've had KDE save the window positions so that everything is in the same location each time I start the system.
I've been thinking about changing this system to use a tiling window manager. I've never actually used a tiling window manager, so I'm doing a some research first. Can a tiling window manager put applications in the correct tiles each time they're started by RaySession?
It should be possible
I use Hyprland (not much experience with i3)
according to reddit it's got window rules that determines how apps open
Cool, thanks! I'll add that to my reading list. heh heh A random youtube video about setting up Hyprland is what got me thinking about this. So, if Hyprland can do what I want, I'm at least looking in the right direction.
The complication is that all but the first 2 apps I launch are launched by the 2nd app so that it can manage the audio connections between the others. "An app launching other apps" might be different than "launching apps." I guess I'll find out... eventually. 😁
do you have an nvidia gpu by any chance
Hyprland is a wayland compositor so it might be annoying with nvidia gpus
It's working fine with my RTX 3070 laptop at the moment
The documentation for Hyprland.
this page is pretty useful
even for non-hyprland wayland sessions involving nvidia
Yes, I also have an NVIDIA GPU (I think the box in question has a GTX 960), so I'm crossing my fingers that it won't be an issue. I only occasionally use Wayland, but that's solely because Gyazo doesn't work on Wayland. The box I'd be using hyprland on doesn't really need gyazo though.
hmm you might want to use i3 with xorg then
if you really need gyazo
but if you don't
hyprland would work
since you use Fedora i3 might be a better option tbh
I'll check out hyperland first since I would only rarely need gyazo on that particular box. Or maybe KDE had just enough tiling functionality to accomplish what I want.
Hyprland has more support on arch/nix/opensuse
OK, gotcha. I'll look into i3 also.
i3wm also works on most distros
gamer
is linux hard to learn?
Hard? No
Well, it does depend on if you go straight into a more complicated distro like arch
But if you're just starting out, and you use something like mint, it's not hard
well that depends tbh
Arch in my experience is a really good learning tool for linux
However you'll have to be very persistent with it
The arch wiki is really good
i'm talking about someone who has probably never interfaced with a command line (or at most just followed an online guide) on windows
if somebody asks "is linux hard to learn", it's probably safe to assume they've never touched linux lmao
Until I started using arch
That's also when I stopped just pasting commands from google
You don't necessarily have to start with a pure arch
true
You can use an arch install script
Actually arch based can be less hassle
Since the arch wiki is so detailed
We can boil the answer down to "it depends how deep into the rabbit hole you want to go"
***FIRST COMMENT OF 2025!!! *** 🤣
Congratulations
The lamest award
you get a single dollar store sticker for that
wait hold on a moment can i have one

post neofetch
Windows spotted- fake Linux user
Is that a Nobara Live ISO running in a VirtualBox VM on Windows 10?
vm stopped working

this thing flies
from power button to login screen in ~15 seconds
for those interested, running an i7-8700 with arch linux on some junk 256gb wd nvme SSD, booted with EFIstub in lieu of a boot manager
Probably is missing a driver
Turns out I ssh'd to the wrong IP
It changed when it booted into the linux kernel
Did you forget to set your DHCP to give out the static address lol
I always try to remember to change my DHCP settings so even if I have to reset network settings when it asks the server for the address again it still grabs the correct one
When the nas restarted it changed its ip
Apparently it's documented behaviour
Common enough to show up on the debian wiki for this nas
seagate moment seagate moment
wawit
i swear to god if it installed gnome...
nooooo
you're not installing gnome on my nas
This is why I DIY my network stuff
I can set up an old HP workstation with a bunch of HDD slots and SATA ports with a headless server interface and it's way more functional than any NAS
So I did
this is a free nas so
that's the only reason I have it really
maybe in the future I'll upgrade to an actual pc
does raspberry pi has pcie?
It can
It has M.2 that can be adapted
Maybe in a couple of years I'll buy an used mac mini
oh really?
I wonder if there's dedicated NAS motherboards
From the pi 5 page
why didnt they add that sooner lol
cheap i guess
SoC limitations
so much better than booting off a glorified crayon
ah
does it take a full 2280?
2 per slot iirc
Depends on the hat
Still good for booting, no more SD cards
Yeah the pi’s pcie interface is still limited
I forgot I think people were able to get it to 500-800mb/s
For drives I mean

That should go fairly quick, nothing to panic about there
Probably won't even need to restart
Yeah they are all really small
Pretty crazy how small everything is yet it still has so many features and customization
I noticed how quickly the computer goes and wakes from sleep a couple days ago
Its really fast
I downloaded ignition and apps open super fast on startup

Almost as if you don't need to have a huge clunky heavy UI app to make something useful
Package managers are based
fr
Why is my flatpak folder taking up almost 16g

This guy is saying it creates a sandbox of the app so it runs independently
So youll have two of the same app
Not sure if it keeps the source code
I think I misunderstood but basically every app has its own sandbox which takes up a lot of space
Essentially a lot of linux applications are building straight from the source
No clue
Not a fan of flatpak personally
I usually just use the distro repo
Then again I use arch
AUR is pretty convenient
You're on a Fedora based distro right?
Yeah
I'd stick to DNF
It seems so yeah
Arch is a bit more unstable
But imo the package system is the best I've used
Are you still on a vm?
Nah I just used the vm for a short amount of time
Ah
I shrunk my windows partition

