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forest latch
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VMware workstation pro is free for personal use now anyways

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Or so they say at least
Idk how you download it anymore now that they changed a bunch of crap

thorny rune
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VMware workstation is what I use on Windows, but I use Boxes on Linux.

dusk kernel
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Is anyone familiar with audio functionality on Ubuntu? I had an Ubuntu Studio 20.04 system that I used for what is basically karaoke, streamed to a stream server. It all worked well, and is now (hopefully) my backup system.

I've built a new system with Ubuntu Studio 24.04, but I can't figure out how to save the audio mixer settings so that they survive a reboot. I can tweak the mixer settings using alsamixer, and save them using $sudo alsactl store but the settings revert if I reboot.

I suspect that the issue is related to Pipewire since the old system didn't have Pipewire. I'm tempted to rip out Pipewire, but first, I wanted to at least try to find out if there's a better way than alsamixer to set mixer levels. Maybe I just need to use the correct pipewire app to set the levels? Any suggestions on what sets/stores audio mixer levels on Ubuntu?

strong plover
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Ah, I can’t remember what the mixer is called but I have one and it works between reboots

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I used to be so familiar with Jack and all, I’ve switched to pipe wire and I’m not looking back, but honestly, i just ignore it. No complicated things like jack had

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Sorry, that’s not helpful. I’ll try to look tomorrow night

dusk kernel
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If Pipewire can handle what I'm doing, I'm willing to give it a shot. Pix are 2 desktops not 2 monitors.

dusk kernel
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I think "WirePlumber" is the droid I'm looking for because it's the session manager for PipeWire. So, I'll try to read up on that at some point. For now, I just need to get the mixer settings to save reliably.

dusk kernel
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No, WirePlumber won't help because I've already removed all the Pipewire stuff that can be removed. duh. 🤦‍♂️

I've been trying login/logout scripts in KDE but that hasn't worked yet.

dusk kernel
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I THINK I finally found something that will work. "RaySession," the session manager I'm using, has the ability to run user-editable scripts. There is 1 script each for when the session is loaded, saved, or closed.
in load.sh – alsactl restore -f /home/dude/Audio_Settings/asound.state
in close.sh – alsactl store -f /home/dude/Audio_Settings/asound.state

unborn haven
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I discovered an iso named bodhi linux, which could be used to recover files when any operating system is corrupted.

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Is it a good idea?

fallow belfry
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Depending on the reason for the corruption, any Linux could be used for that. There's lots of recovery tools.

unborn haven
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Oh!

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I thought in this, ui will be simple

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Because it runs on the operating system disk so it's easy to get files

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Other than Linux, which runs on Live USB

fallow belfry
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If file recovery is your goal then you really don't want to boot from the drive you're trying to recover

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The OS is constantly writing files so it's quite likely that whatever you try to recover gets more and more corrupted, with worsening corruption the longer the disk is used

unborn haven
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Copying from the Operating System disk to the longer disk through any means of recovery maybe a good option for me

unborn haven
dusk kernel
fallow belfry
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It's been years since I used hbcd

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Huh. It used to run on Windows XP, but now it runs off Win11 PE. Interesting.

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And that's a recent development at that. First version appears to be from March this year.

dusk kernel
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I used HBCD once a month or two ago and it was very useful for that one account recovery issue. So if a Windows interface is needed, it seems like a good tool. I still lean towards SystemRescueCD for anything on Linux.

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This is the best "bootable ISO" tool of them all...
https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

fallow belfry
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I hate Google advertising so much

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Guess what I just got an ad for not 5 minutes after reading that message on my computer?
That's right I got an ad on my phone for Ventoy.

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I don't even know where Google got that information that I just saw this thing

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It was never spoken aloud and Discord is closed on my phone

dusk kernel
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I didn't even know that Ventoy had something to sell.

fallow belfry
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Right? Super weird

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I'm thinking it was one of those AI generated ones

dusk kernel
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Google needs to chill the eff out.

fallow belfry
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That just scrapes their site and spits it onto a page

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Then loads it up with so many ads you can't read it

dusk kernel
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That seems pretty UN-useful. LOL

fallow belfry
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That's modern media for you

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Try going to a news site without an ad blocker and see how quickly you get frustrated

dusk kernel
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I feel like something similar happened to me recently... I saw or bought something online, then saw an ad for it in the weather app on my phone.

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Ya gotta love ads for stuff you already bought. 🤦‍♂️ 😆

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oh geez, noooooo... gotta keep uBlock Origin installed everywhere. heh heh

fallow belfry
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Well if you bought it once you might buy another. Even if it's something you typically buy once a decade like a garbage disposal. Yes that's bait for another ad.

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In case anyone doubts

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I was also recently talking about energy drinks in another server, funny how that works

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The 7800X3D ad is fair I google that like 5 times a day in some variety

dusk kernel
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This just popped up in my youtube feed and I haven't been searching for anything on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBnDWSvaQ1I

Follow up video: https://youtu.be/kv8gvXPwWjY

Does Google and Facebook listen in and record conversations and audio even when they're not open? I perform a live test using Google chrome on a Windows 10 PC to discover whether my microphone appears to be recording me even when my browser is turned off in order to better target advertisements.

A...

▶ Play video
sand pecan
dusk kernel
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You so craaaazy. LOL But congratulations!

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This is the system I recently overhauled and upgraded.

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I tweaked the "JACK patchbay" theme in the upper left of the 1st image. I also finally found a WM theme that provided the ability to setup the active/inactive colors the way I wanted.

strong plover
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What kind of audio work are you doing?

dusk kernel
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Basically it's "virtual karaoke." 😆 VLC plays a karaoke track (instrumental version of a song without lead vocal, with or without the lyrics in the video), I sing... it get's mixed together and streamed to a server. That audio stream is then accessed by folks in Second Life. Yes, Second Life is still around. [chuckle]

sand pecan
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LineageOS 21

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Got rid of the samsung bloat os

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Things I learnt: samsung hates you putting custom roms on their devices

dusk kernel
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Yeah, they need to keep you in their walled garden. :-D

I occasionally ponder rooting my old S5 just for the heck of it. Maybe some day.

sand pecan
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It's a bit more hassle since they have their own bootloader instead of using fastboot

forest latch
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it's web based so it also works on windows and macos

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i probably should have posted this one channel above but whatever

wild sigil
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Wow

civic bloom
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Android owners, how do u do a full image backup of ur Android devices without root / with a locked bootloader ?

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possibly related questions:

  • is it possible to unlock a carrier locked bootloader ?
  • if not, can u root with a locked bootloader ?
  • if yes, can u "un-root" back to stock ?
fallow belfry
# civic bloom Android owners, how do u do a full image backup of ur Android devices without ro...

Answers in order of the questions asked:
You can't. You can do adb backup but that's the extent of it. It'll save your app data and such at least but it'll only restore to the same device on the same OS version.
Sometimes you can unlock it. Depends on the device and carrier.
No, rooting requires access to system files. It also requires you to fully reset your device.
You can remove root at any time but you have to flash a stock image in order to re-lock the bootloader.

wild sigil
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The closes you can probably get is an app like smart switch as a backup, but it doesn't transfer everything

civic bloom
civic bloom
pure crane
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I'm a Linux newbie, but I feel like my PopOS install is acting up

Sometimes at random the screen will go black for a few seconds and go back to normal, don't know why this happens

When I have a game set to fullscreen, at random points the game will automatically minimize for some reason. Don't know why

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tried looking this stuff up on Google and couldn't find much

fallow belfry
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Check your cables for a loose one

dusk kernel
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Just a couple of random thoughts for things to check.:

  1. For the screen going blank I'd check power save settings because maybe that's turning off your monitor? But that will depend on what you are doing when the screen goes blank.
  2. random minimizing might be a hotkey combo being triggered. Again, it depends on what you're doing when it happens. E.g., if you're not using your keyboard when the game minimizes, it's unlikely that a hotkey combo did it. 😁
delicate portal
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guys I have an ubuntu server and I want to know my device specifications how do I do that?

dusk kernel
sand pecan
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Has anyone used Hyprland here?

sand pecan
wild sigil
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Literally blinding wtf

sand pecan
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Got ms office to run like it's a native app

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(it's not native but it looks like it)

wild sigil
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Does it actually work?

sand pecan
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Yeah

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It's a bit janky with ghost windows but it works

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That could be down to to the wm I'm using

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This is what I used

wild sigil
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Wonder if it works with steamos

sand pecan
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Basically it's vm magic

sand pecan
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If it can run a vm you can probably run this

wild sigil
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Looks like it's based on Debian

sand pecan
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I'm running this on arch

wild sigil
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Maybe it will work lol

sand pecan
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Yeah

wild sigil
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Literally pretty much the only stepping stone I would need for a daily driver SteamOS machine lol

sand pecan
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yeah I'm trying to get rid of my dual boot altogether

dusk kernel
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Does anyone have a suggestion why I get the following error message while trying to upgrade one Fedora/KDE system, but didn't get it on the other 3 systems I upgraded? Or does anyone have a suggestion how to fix the error?

$ sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=40 -y
[lots of stuff]
Error: Transaction test error:
file /usr/share/applications/kcm_trash.desktop from install of kio-extras-24.05.2-1.fc40.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kf5-kio-core-5.116.0-2.fc39.x86_64

fallow belfry
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Update kio-core and kio-extras then try the command again. It looks like a version mismatch.

dusk kernel
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I'm upgrading from Fedora 39 to 40. I've updated before starting the upgrade and reinstalled kio-core and kf5-kio-extras. Still getting the error.

fallow belfry
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Looks like that's a file associated with KDE desktop

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Though I'm not sure in what way

dusk kernel
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KIO

KIO (KDE Input/Output) is a system library incorporated into KDE Frameworks and KDE Software Compilation 4. It provides access to files, web sites and other resources through a single consistent API. Applications, such as Konqueror and Dolphin, which are written using this framework, can operate on files stored on remote servers in exactly the...

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This seems to have allowed the upgrade transaction to complete:
$ sudo rpm -e --nodeps kf5-kio-core
On to the next step! Wheeeeee! LOL

dusk kernel
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Upgrade is done... Now I get to find the random things that are different now that the upgrade changed me to Wayland.

The first issue I'm seeing is that the login screen had an error about some Qt package not being installed. So I'm download some new options.

dusk kernel
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Gyazo doesn't work on Wayland. Yay.

unborn haven
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How do i install kali nethunter on redmi 6 pro?

fallow belfry
sand pecan
strong plover
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Real

grave grail
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My contribution to gaming on linux

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an actual game to play

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its also on windows but who cares about that

sand pecan
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To be fair gaming on linux has come a long way

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most of the games in my library work via proton

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it's gotten a lot easier too

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with the right proton versions most games work out of the box

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sometimes it'll take a couple launch commands and custom proton builds

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but gaming on linux is pretty viable these days

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anticheat software are still a pain tho

grave grail
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valid

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im talking like native support and stuff, its definetley getting better but still has a bit more to go

lyric nacelle
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@bold pumice i got muted for being adhd

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they really need to fix that

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but i think the main point of that distro is for android to run it with hardware acceleration as otherwise theres a lot of lag

fallow belfry
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Fix what now? What muted you, Discord itself or Dyno, and why?

lyric nacelle
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5 messages

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is rather harsh

bold pumice
lyric nacelle
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different messages mind you

bold pumice
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I didn't know that was even a thing tbh

lyric nacelle
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too quickly

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yeah

bold pumice
fallow belfry
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Ah the fast message spam rule, I'll take a look

fallow belfry
lyric nacelle
fallow belfry
lyric nacelle
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oh wow

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thanks

wild sigil
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You're special

fallow belfry
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It won't trigger for you either 😉

wild sigil
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We're special

barren fox
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what are some of the downsides of moving to linux

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aldo if i ever seotch to linux and then want to seotch back to windows how hard will that be

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and will my files all be okay

quick ermine
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You can have a second SSD with some sort of linux on it and double-boot

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Buuuuut you're probably gonna get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of stuff with linux if you jump in blind

fallow belfry
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You can also multi boot with only one drive

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Heck you can run Linux off a USB drive to give it a test run if you wanted

quick ermine
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Isn't it generally smart to keep different OSes on separate drives?

forest latch
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yes

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but it's technically possible

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just make partitions

fallow belfry
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Ideally yes but it's not difficult to partition a drive, even one that's currently in use

dusk kernel
# fallow belfry Heck you can run Linux off a USB drive to give it a test run if you wanted

Even this option has two options. 😁 You can install the ISO as a "Live USB" version to your USB drive or any external drive that you can boot from. You can then use that "Live USB" to install Linux onto an external drive just like you would have if it were a regular internal drive.

If you're trying out Linux for the first time, I suggest keeping it as separated from your Windows installation as possible. That will give you the freedom to play with Linux (i.e. screw it up so much that you need to reinstall, LOL) and avoid the stress of worrying about screwing up your working Windows installation.

fallow belfry
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With a live USB you can create a persistence file so any changes you make are saved too. Ubuntu would be a good one to start with, and they make it easy to set up persistence.

dusk kernel
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That's another good option! I can't remember... can the Live USB be updated like an actual installation?

smoky fable
agile warren
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It's unfortunate how all the good Proton did to games didn't translate to professional apps

fallow belfry
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New Intel LAM that débuts on the chips launching this week already has a bunch of attack vectors against it and it's not even out yet

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The exploits even have names already

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Like SLAM

devout maple
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Heya, I'm haveing a weird problem when running linux. I'm using Zorin and whenever I'm playing games they're not detecting all of my key presses. I have to hit my movement keys 2 or 3 times before they'll register and I know it's not my keyboard because they work fine everywhere else like when I'm typing or using other software. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening and how to rectify it?

devout maple
devout maple
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I think I fixed it

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I had to turn on a setting to limit mouse operations to the game window

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and now the keyboard presses are being detected 😄

fallow belfry
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Ah good. My guess would have been the AM4 USB dropout issue.

devout maple
sand pecan
devout maple
sand pecan
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ohh

ornate finch
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I use adobe for video editing and i cant live without muh hdr. i need an excuse to switch to linux. Is there any support for issues like these or programs to download?

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Me deleting microsoft edge's files and a few weeks redirecting me to using edge after clicking a link.. nah

mortal totem
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Ye can’t avoid edge with windows

fallow belfry
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Microsoft got sued over that lol

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Monopolistic behavior they called it

sand pecan
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There are alternatives but you will have to get used to a new workflow

ornate finch
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Any alternatives youd recommend?

sand pecan
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Personally I haven't used it enough to really recommend it but

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It's better than the open source alternatives

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Also are there any other software you need for your workflow?

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Like MS Office?

ornate finch
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Ive never touched office ever

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I am a bit worried about game compatibility tho

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I know steamdeck uses linux

sand pecan
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Well

ornate finch
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But

sand pecan
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Eeing how you got a 7900GRE

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most games would work

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With minor tweaks

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Usually most of the time you just have to select the right proton version

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Protondb is very helpful for that

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There's also custom proton versions

ornate finch
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Mkay

sand pecan
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These are really helpful as well

ornate finch
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Id be fine downloading software too

sand pecan
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Linux gaming have gotten a lot better

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It's easier to run games than software

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If only it carried over...

ornate finch
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If only

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Idk, as much as i love the compatibility and customization windows just has too much compatibility with the stuff i use right now (monopoly moment), although the second linux starts having a bit more to offer im jumping ship

sand pecan
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Yeah I wouldn't switch to linux in your case tbh

ornate finch
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And privacy

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sand pecan
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Once you're used to the adobe ecosystem

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It takes a lot of time to switch

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And alternatives aren't always good

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I still prefer premiere

ornate finch
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I am, but recently ive had a lot of trouble with the stupid hour+ file issues i have with premiere pro

sand pecan
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Ah

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Crashes?

ornate finch
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Worse

sand pecan
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Typical

ornate finch
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Editing is hell

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This is 1080p 30fps

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Not demanding

sand pecan
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Is your scratch disk full perhaps?

ornate finch
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Nope

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Not at all

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I clear everything

sand pecan
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huh

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Here's a long shot but

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Have you tried reinstalling windows?

ornate finch
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Lmao

sand pecan
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I usually reinstall windows every 6 months because it just self destructs after a while

ornate finch
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No i havent, reinstalled it about 4 months ago tho

sand pecan
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hmmmmmmmmm

sand pecan
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Yeah I've done it so much that I don't even install my software to C:/ anymore

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I do a fresh install and I'm almost straight back to work

ornate finch
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That was my first time reinstalling

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C drive was honestly another concern with linux too

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Since im lazy

sand pecan
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What do you mean?

ornate finch
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Didnt feel like moving stuff

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Reinstalling was already a pain

sand pecan
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ah

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It is a massive pain tbh

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At least the first time

ornate finch
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It is a bit bare bones right now tho so wouldnt be the worst time to switch

sand pecan
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I'd start by partitionion the disks

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Also I'd recommend having a separate software partition for windows

ornate finch
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I actually dont know what partitioning means

sand pecan
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Basically you split your physical drive into different parts

ornate finch
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Ah i see

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Makes sense

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So im not uninstalling everything

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Just old os

sand pecan
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Honestly I'd keep windows for now

ornate finch
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I planned on it

sand pecan
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Have you debloated?

ornate finch
sand pecan
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hmm

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Basically I'd back up anything important

ornate finch
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I dont have a seperate drive to hold everything

sand pecan
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Hmm

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How much empty space do you have?

ornate finch
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About a TB

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Ssd has 2 total

sand pecan
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ok great

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uh

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I've got an exam in an hour so

ornate finch
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Lol alright

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Appreciate the info you've given

sand pecan
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Sorry

ornate finch
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Youre all good

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Do well on your exam

smoky fable
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small group ruining it for everyone else :/

wild sigil
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"Instead of actually putting in the time to make our anti-cheat actually do what it's supposed to, we're just going to block an entire set of devices" is all I'm hearing

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It doesn't even identify cheaters on Windows devices correctly

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You might as well block all windows devices for the same reason...

ornate finch
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game companys arent our friends and theyve made that very clear from the get go

smoky fable
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To be fair I'd imagine it's pretty hard to make your own anticheat and easyanticheat apparently is vulnerable on linux

smoky fable
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I'duch rather blame the cheaters than the devs. Cheating (in multiplayer pvp games) is absolute scum and ruins the experience for everyone else

wild sigil
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They say they can't tell if players are playing on a legit steamdeck/linux build or not but go on to say they weighed it based on the number of legit steamdeck / legit players and decided that there weren't enough

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If you can't verify their legitimacy how could you make an informed decision?

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But I suppose by sheer numbers, there are more people using windows than linux

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Not sure how likely banning linux in general from participating will "meaningfully" reduce the instances of cheating though, if EAC is barely able to identify cheaters on windows

fallow belfry
smoky fable
fallow belfry
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You can compile executables for other operating systems when you write them pepeHands

wild sigil
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What fal said

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It wouldn't be a huge jump in logic to use the same reasoning to ban windows and only allow consoles to play

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By sheer numbers alone, the number of cheaters on Windows is statistically much more numerous than on linux

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Also, how do you define cheats that make a significant impact?

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I'd say DDoS and aimbot fall under those categories which are the most common cheats I've seen

forest latch
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i can pretty much guarantee that all cheats on console games were developed on either windows, linux, or macos, and not on the console itself KEKW

wild sigil
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Also true

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Ban consoles

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No one gets to play apex

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And maybe that's better for everyone-

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They can finally work on Titanfall 3 then

smoky fable
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(and like I said earlier it sounds like supporting Linux was allowing cheats to be developed easier)

forest latch
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i wonder how they calculated it though
if it were by percentage, then like if there were 10 players on linux, and one of them cheated, that would be 10% of linux users cheated, while there would be way more users on windows, say like 1000 users, and 10 people cheat, then that would be 1% of users cheat

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honestly it wouldnt really be any easier to cheat on linux than windows

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but linux users would be more tech savvy and would have a much higher chance for an average linux gamer to be able to use cheats, compared to the average windows user who probably dont even know what the control panel is

fallow belfry
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There are exactly zero sources cited so I can only assume they pulled numbers out of thin air

wild sigil
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As far as we all know, this is their source

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If you make an argument your statements need some form of support or validity or it falls apart immediately

fallow belfry
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They're also just bad at detecting cheaters in the first place so how would they even know

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There's going to be a heavy bias in the data too, because each OS does kernel level stuff differently and reports differently

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So it could very well just be more detected cheaters used Linux just because it's easier to detect on Linux

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Statistics is funny

wild sigil
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Percentages basically mean nothing

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As Mr tech Jesus says

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15% temperature difference in Kelvin vs celcius is a massive difference

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But they're the same thing

sand pecan
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They just don't wanna dedicate the manpower to develop for linux when they can make another crappy cod reskin

smoky fable
sand pecan
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apex?

smoky fable
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Like I do think apex has fallen off but how is it a crappy cod reskin?

sand pecan
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well I was more talking about the industry as a whole

smoky fable
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Oh fair enough

sand pecan
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for apex that might be mediocre seasonal content

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or new skins and stuff

smoky fable
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Personally idc if they add $300 heirloom skins or whatever. It's a free game with no pay to win mechanics. I do care that the matchmaking is terrible and the servers are still 20hz

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I used to be a huge fan but since I stopped playing regularly, every time I try to come back and play a few matches I'm just getting rolled by either smurfs or players ranked higher than I ever was at my "peak"

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Maybe hackers too. Killcams are so bugged though it's hard to tell

sand pecan
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they're milking the game with extra content

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they're willing to add all that content except for stuff that might fix the game

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the game industry is increasingly on a "quantity over quality" model

wild sigil
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They're adding new skins or slightly changed modes over actual fixes

sand pecan
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that also goes for minecraft

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the game runs like crap yet all they're doing is adding medicore content updates that add nothing to the game

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the existence of sodium and optifine proves that they can fix the game

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they just don't

ornate finch
sand pecan
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especially since cyberpunk

ornate finch
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as much as i love quality, i cant deny that people are always looking for a new experience

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poor cyberpunk honestly, such a great game to have such a rough start like that

sand pecan
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I mean

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It was the studio's fault

ornate finch
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true

sand pecan
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developers are being pushed so hard

ornate finch
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thats pretty much most big titles nowadays tho

sand pecan
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like

ornate finch
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which sucks

sand pecan
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it's not the devs' fault that the game is released in an unfinished state

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it's the studios

ornate finch
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mhm

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and then the chain reaction occured

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what was the name of that dookie "AAAA" game ea or whatever released

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idk its just annoying how bad big titles are now

sand pecan
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yeah

ornate finch
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theyre all graphics mid gameplay

sand pecan
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dev teams don't get enough time or resources to fully realize their vision

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all because studios want to meet a stupid deadline

ornate finch
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indie game devs i feel like are whats gonna save the game industry tbh

wild sigil
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Concord

ornate finch
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bleh

wild sigil
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Very bleh

sand pecan
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oh yeah that existed

wild sigil
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Died before it even hit the market

ornate finch
#

if the souls series ever goes to crap i know we're doomed

wild sigil
#

If fromsoft makes a broken unfinished game

#

Video games is over

ornate finch
#

they can make they unfinished games idgaf, im not so impatient that i cant wait the week for them to patch their game

#

i dont preorder ANYTHING with how the market is

#

i wait for people to find the bugs so i can dive in and enjoy the game how its meant to be played

sand pecan
#

I don't think they should be released unfinished

#

unless it's in early access

wild sigil
#

Why is it okay they release one unfinished

sand pecan
#

AAA studios should not release unfinished products

wild sigil
#

They've never done that in their history

#

They shouldn't start

sand pecan
#

maybe indie studios yes

wild sigil
#

If they do, again that's the end of video games

ornate finch
#

no, but i also think people kinda dont help the issue by buying early when we know these companys pull this crap

sand pecan
#

I don't buy AAA UNLESS they're on sale

ornate finch
#

should treat day 1 release as the beta and wait for the first patches

ornate finch
sand pecan
#

the only way this is acceptable is if they're early access indie titles

ornate finch
#

or if theyre just amazing value

sand pecan
#

If they're charging $80 for a game

ornate finch
#

we need some more titanfall 2s rn tbh

sand pecan
#

no way it should be unfinished

wild sigil
#

It shouldn't be this way but unfortunately it is

sand pecan
#

like I have to pay rent

wild sigil
#

Stupid studios

sand pecan
#

I'm not spending $80 on crap

ornate finch
#

i cant say anything

wild sigil
#

Dumb corporate

ornate finch
#

i sail the seven seas

#

if i can buy it i will tho

sand pecan
#

I mean

ornate finch
#

but not paying stupid money

sand pecan
#

game demos should be a thing again

ornate finch
#

lethal company is another example

sand pecan
#

that's a moral grey area that the mods don't like you talking about

ornate finch
#

eh

#

idc

#

im still supporting the good companys

sand pecan
#

It's more that it's a newegg affiliated server

ornate finch
#

thats all that matters to me

#

if i get banned i get banned

sand pecan
#

so they wouldn't want their brand to be associated with piracy

ornate finch
#

true

#

although i doubt official newegg ever checks this stuff

#

and the people here are the people who like newegg anyway

sand pecan
#

well we still shouldn't be talking about piracy anyways

ornate finch
#

or just pc stuff

#

true

sand pecan
#

at least not in the server

ornate finch
#

lol

sand pecan
#

but yeah

#

with $80 games we really should be getting game demos

fallow belfry
#

And yes demos should be a thing again instead of relying on random people on youtube to promote your gameplay

smoky fable
#

I ❤️ game demos

#

I don't get excited for steam summer and winter sales anymore, I get excited for Next Fest

fallow belfry
#

At least with steam you can buy a game and refund it, that's the closest we've gotten for a while

sand pecan
#

yeah

#

Steam's one of the rare instances where they actually try to do stuff that benefits the consumer

upbeat pollen
#

chrome os aka linux was made in 2009 exposed so discord will you drop support for it then hmm

fallow belfry
#

Just another troll

sand pecan
#

ok that's reassuring

#

that was quite literally one of the most non sensical things I've ever read

fallow belfry
#

Based on their previous messages my assumption is they're feigning being upset at Discord not supporting Windows 7 so they're making far reaching arguments like "Chrome OS was made in 2009 too" (even though it's a totally different thing)

#

And you can still use Discord in the browser so it's a straw man argument

sand pecan
#

It annoys me so much because like

#

that comment shows a fundamental misunderstanding on linux

#

as if it's anything like windows

fallow belfry
#

It's different on the deepest levels

sand pecan
#

Isn't discord linux an electron webapp anyways

fallow belfry
#

It can be

#

I installed it with a deb

sand pecan
#

to be fair to discord

#

they're probably dropping discord support for windows 7 for security reasons more than anything

#

or else you might get a case like windows xp where you get a virus the instant you connect the internet

fallow belfry
#

It's pretty ancient and isn't getting security updates any more. And I like living on the edge, connecting my Win98 PCem box to the Internet. Not that it knows what to do with it.

forest latch
#

discord somehow barely is even capable of maintaining their clients to be usable, how are you gonna expect them to also support windows 7 ong

ornate finch
#

discord mobile just doesnt work half the time i swear

#

weird cropping, things not loading

fallow belfry
#

Don't forget when it only shows 1/2 of an image and you have to rotate your phone twice to get it to show the whole thing

wild sigil
#

Don't forget when it fails to send messages when you lose network for one second

#

and you have to restart the app just to get it to send

sand pecan
#

They also change the ui every 2 months for no good reason

wild sigil
#

Imagine discord gets the twitch mobile treatment

#

💀

dusk kernel
#

Is gyazo not working on Wayland for anyone else? Or am I just the "lucky" one?

near maple
#

am thinking of installing arch linux on a virtual machine and have fun with it 😎

#

i heard its pretty customizable

#

looks fun

forest latch
#

Bare metal it

near maple
#

what does that mean

#

its my will my first experience using linux btw

#

i will try to list out goals i want to achieve , and try my best to achieve them

forest latch
#

Running it directly on the hardware rather than using a vm

#

You can dual boot, so if you want to use Linux, you can boot on that partition, and if you want to use windows, boot into that partition

near maple
#

will dual booting involve any whiping a drive clean

#

or do i keep my files

forest latch
#

You can keep your files

#

Ideally you use 1 drive for each OS though

near maple
#

my laptop doesn't even have a spare slot for any drives , neither m.2 or sata

#

can i partition my drive

forest latch
#

Yes, if you have enough free space to shrink the existing partitions (or if you backup everything then reformat the drive)

near maple
#

am not down for any reformating but i have spare space

#

107 gb is enough?

#

i can free up more

forest latch
#

The problem isn't that you don't have spare space, the problem is that "free space" you're talking about is already a part of the partition, so windows might not allow you to shrink the partition to make space for a new partition

#

100gb should be enough space though

near maple
#

ok ill try to get arch linux installed tmrw

dusk kernel
#

If you have USB3, you can install linux on an external drive and it'll be usable. USB2 works, but it's slower due to data transfer speeds.

mortal totem
#

I think I installed windows on an sd card once

fallow belfry
#

That way it's like a portable OS customized exactly how you want and able to boot on any WTG ready computer

mortal totem
#

Yeah tbh I’m not sure how I did it I just remember it being terrible

sand pecan
#

I've been using arch for 4 years now

near maple
#

ok so

#

i tried

#

but

#

it for some reason doesn't show any partition that is on my ssd

#

it only showed the usb partition

#

what ccould be the issue here

#

but i had my fun connecting the wifi and pinging google 😎

#

hacker

near maple
#

and it only showed one partition

#

which was a 15gb partitions , and i dont have any partition this size on my pc , its probably usb stick

fallow belfry
near maple
#

do i check for drivers from windows control panel

#

i mean device manager

fallow belfry
#

Linux drivers are different from Windows ones

#

Most of them are included in the kernel itself but some of the less common ones aren't

near maple
#

i was installing linux tho , i didn't expect to download linux drivers before installing linux

fallow belfry
#

Yep, welcome to 'nix lol

#

tbf you need to do the same with Windows sometimes

#

Especially wifi drivers

near maple
#

where do i look for the drivers i need

#

and how do i install them from windows

#

or do i install them while in the arch linux terminal thingy 👴

fallow belfry
#

You would load them from terminal

#

As for which ones you need, what motherboard do you have?

near maple
#

its a laptop motherboard

fallow belfry
#

Ok, which laptop model

near maple
#

acer aspire 7

#

A715-76G

fallow belfry
#

Gotcha. Ok there's a well known issue with this setup. In your BIOS, what is your NVMe mode set to? AHCI is required, because RAID/Optane is not supported.

#

WARNING: Toggling this may break Windows

near maple
#

how do i check

fallow belfry
#

I'm not familiar with Acer BIOS but it should be under some sort of "storage configuration" menu

near maple
#

also

#

am not willing to break my windows

fallow belfry
#

Yep we're just checking the setting to see if it'll work at all

near maple
#

ok ill go check

near maple
#

i tried looking it up and apparently acer hides the setting unless you click crtl+s which shows the settings , but when i do that it doesn't show the sata type setting it just some other unrelated settings

#

isn't there a manual for the bios

#

or something

fallow belfry
#

Sometimes but it's usually useless

near maple
#

ig its not enabled ??? , maybe ????

fallow belfry
#

Intel RST, you're on RAID mode

#

Options are reinstall Windows with AHCI, prepare Windows to swap to AHCI by pre-loading the driver, or just go with your original plan and use a VM

near maple
#

i saw an ltt video about it just now , and they said i can get ahci to by just doing a registry edit , but am not even sure how to even the find the setting on my laptop , so ig ill just go with vm

#

i've seen tutorials but they are not the same exact acer model and they don't work

fallow belfry
#

The setting might be along the lines of "intel rapid storage", which would need to be disabled

near maple
#

i tried over 4 times

#

whats the issue here

#

i tried to to boot from the virtual drive , it asked for a loggin through terminal

#

and when i logged in using the information from the install , it did nothing?

#

man this is hard 😭

#

and it doesn't look that hard in the tutorials i just come across soo many issues

forest latch
#

Using arch install is cheating Ong you're supposed to read documentation for a million hours

near maple
#

this toke up enough time for today , i will try tmrw

forest latch
#

Also VirtualBox sucks

#

If you're to use a VM, use VMware workstation

#

It's free to use now

wild sigil
#

That's arch

#

I'll stick with Ubuntu or mint or something if I try Linux

sand pecan
#

Always check your mirrorlist folks

#

I used a default mirrorlist generated by reflector and my packages corrupted

#

Had to reinstall

forest latch
#

Or rather

#

Always make backups

#

Never update prod without testing

sand pecan
#

Yeah

#

I probably should backup stuff

forest latch
#

Oh yeah also one more rule; always verify the checksum to make sure that you haven't gotten malware and/or corrupted download

fallow belfry
#

Arch is Linux on hard mode

#

But if you REALLY want to learn how Linux works that's the way to do it

sand pecan
#

Gentoo

fallow belfry
#

That's expert mode

sand pecan
#

I 100% agree with that learning linux part

#

Linux's gotten so much easier for me since I've used arch

fallow belfry
#

Hard is still doable if you're determined, expert is just "I want to hate my life"

sand pecan
#

I've gone from pasting commands to actually learning how those commands do

#

Arch wiki is a really good learning tool

forest latch
#

Man is your best friend

fallow belfry
#

That statement can work both in and out of context

forest latch
#

lmao

near maple
#

what is fat 32

#

what is swap

#

what is root

#

what is the point of the 3 partitions i've made

#

tryna understand what am doing while installing arch

near maple
#

also when i list the the mirrors it doesn't name the assosiated country

#

i just looked up the servers on arch wiki

fallow belfry
fallow belfry
# near maple what is swap

When your memory fills up, it uses swap space on the disk instead to prevent programs from crashing. Some programs need swap to function (rare).

fallow belfry
# near maple what is root

This can refer to either the user root, which is like a super-admin, or the base folder in a partition (think C:)

near maple
#

so root is just where i store my stuff

#

C; from windows

sand pecan
#

Tip: I'd partition with a GUI partitioner

near maple
#

i partioned with cfdisk

sand pecan
#

I really don't recommend using the CLI to partition

#

I've wiped my EFI before

fallow belfry
sand pecan
#

Do you have an existing fat32 partition?

near maple
#

i partioned it in a virtual machine

fallow belfry
near maple
#

cuz

#

am on a virtual machine

sand pecan
#

Oh

sand pecan
#

Assuming that he had one

near maple
#

i can't figure out where to change the sata type on my acer

sand pecan
#

But since he's on a vm

near maple
#

thats why i just went with vm

sand pecan
#

Probably not

fallow belfry
#

Ah you missed the part where we couldn't figure out how to disable Intel RST so the laptop is effectively incompatible with Linux

#

And even if RST was disabled it would require changes in Windows to keep it from breaking or a reinstall

sand pecan
#

Oof

sand pecan
#

trying waydroid

#

gonna try to run the android versions of ms office

#

rather than running a windows vm

fallow belfry
#

Wow that's a roundabout way of doing it

#

I'd rather just use libreoffice personally

sand pecan
#

headings and reference lists work weirdly

#

I don't want to end up editing someone's word formatted document and then messing it up with libreoffice formatting

fallow belfry
#

This is true, but it won't be much better in the droid apps, even on actual hardware

sand pecan
#

it'll eat up less battery than a windows vm

fallow belfry
#

Have you considered wine

sand pecan
#

does it work on wine?

fallow belfry
#

What version of office do you have

sand pecan
#

365

#

that's the annoying part

fallow belfry
#

Yeah it works fine

sand pecan
#

ohh

#

it works?

#

how did you get it working?

sand pecan
#

oh wow it's up to date as well

fallow belfry
#

nvm they tricked me with the mac skin

sand pecan
#

apparently they're using paid libaries

fallow belfry
#

Eh same account I just realized

#

There are multiple people stating that they have it working on 22.04 at least

sand pecan
#

hmm

#

I might consider getting a separate work laptop with windows and wsl instead

#

just for compatibility sakes

near maple
#

Whats wrong 😭

near maple
fallow belfry
#

You need to tell grub where the /boot/efi folder is. I forget the command and I'm delirious right now.

sand pecan
#

Did you mount the efi partition to /boot?

dusk kernel
near maple
#

yes

#

man i already hate terminals

#

when ever i do something inolving terminal ITS 100% confirmed that something will go wrong fr 😭

#

thats not even an exagerration

#

and the worst part isn't the issue is that am too dumb at coding to understand the solution

near maple
#

how to ungray this

#

ok

#

i've instald grub

#

i think i can boot now

#

maybe

#

uh is this linux is this arch

#

have i succeded or failedd

#

am soo confused

#

i don't think this is arch

sand pecan
#

You installed grub

sand pecan
#

grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=GRUB

#

You typed efi-director

#

Also did you make the grub config?

near maple
#

yes i did

sand pecan
#

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

#

Have you done this?

near maple
#

waity

sand pecan
#

While you had all the system partitions mounted

#

You have grub installed but it doesn't know that there are any OSes

near maple
#

yes i did

sand pecan
#

was the linux partition mounted?

near maple
#

is that the root partition or the efi partition

#

if it was any of these , yes i did have them mounted

sand pecan
#

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

#

Do this again while the partitions are mounted

near maple
#

wait i have a question

#

where exaclt should they be mounted

sand pecan
#

It doesn't matter

#

They just need to be mounted

#

Also did you do "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in chroot?

near maple
#

yes i did

sand pecan
#

Try it again

near maple
sand pecan
#

It should show up in grub now

#

Now you just have to reboot

near maple
#

it still only shows uefi firmware

#

i looked it up and saw some one suggesting that i might have not have kernel installed

#

is linux kernal installed when i use "# pacstrap -K /mnt base linux linux-firmware"

#

if yes , i should have it installed

#

if no , then might not have it installed

sand pecan
#

yes

#

grub-mkconfig would not have detected it if it wasn't installed

#

Are you sure you don't have 2 efi partitions or something

forest latch
#

she grub on my efi till i boot

near maple
#

wait let me just confirm

sand pecan
#

No idea what's going on here

#

Something's up with grub

near maple
wild sigil
#

The grub is turning into a butterfly

sand pecan
#

so

#

What are the different partitions ns

#

show fdisk -l

fallow belfry
near maple
#

yea i realised that

near maple
#

does the average arch linux installation go this horribley

#

if so , i get why its one of the hardest to install 😭

wild sigil
#

For people who have never installed arch?

#

Probably

#

Assuming also they have no experience with Linux and command line

#

Its one of the most confusing to use for people who don't like commandline

#

Like me

#

I would not touch arch with a 6 foot pole

forest latch
#

There's an install script

#

But that's no fun

sand pecan
#

and even then it had issues

#

arch linux is a hobby not a distro

forest latch
#

Eh

#

If you install everything manually, it's more of a hobby, but if you use archinstall, then it's more like most other distros

sand pecan
#

true

#

and to be fair using archinstall still doesn't take much away from the experience

#

if you want to install a different DE or kernel you still can

#

Still way better than arch-based distros imo

#

I myself am not a fan of manjaro because it's pretty jank

#

they try to do too much

#

I like to keep my installs simple

#

less things that can go wrong

near maple
#

ill try to start over

#

grub might work

near maple
#

wtf is this

near maple
#

wait

#

grub detected arch

#

and ran it

#

and it toke me to a new terminal 🎉

#

can't get enough of them

#

anyway

#

is that linux

near maple
# near maple

its cuz i didn't make the grub.cfg file , i made it now

#

chat is this real

#

how do i instal sudo

#

i looked it up and

#

when i ran pacman -Sy sudo

#

it did't work

#

so i pinged google

#

and realised

#

i don't have internet

#

i looked up how to connect to the internet

#

and it required the sudo command

#

???

near maple
#

how do i setup internet

#

on the virtual machine

sand pecan
#

usually grub-mkconfig makes it

#

anyways you need to install more packages for internet and sudo

#

go back to the arch live iso

#

chroot into the install

#

then pacman -S sudo NetworkManager

#

then nano /etc/sudoers and then add your user to it

near maple
#

i forgot to use grub mkcongif

#

fig

#

config

near maple
#

whats the diffrence aren't they all the same

sand pecan
#

ok

near maple
#

vim is just vi with colours

sand pecan
#

That's it really

#

It's a text editor so I just use the least annoying ones

#

Too lazy to pull up the cheat sheet

near maple
#

installed kde plasma

#

Let's GO , chat

#

this a huge W

fallow belfry
#

Now you're cooking

near maple
#

this is unusable , i gotta run it barebones

#

the performance is soo bad

#

ill try to look on a way to dual boot

#

i will where can i find the sata type setting

sand pecan
#

virtualbox moment

fallow belfry
sand pecan
#

My arch install died for the second time this month

sand pecan
#

Package managers are so nice

#

Unlike windows I don't have to reinstall everything individuall

#

I just have get a text file with a list of programs and bam

forest latch
#

There are programs in windows to automate it as well but it's not as good (and not built in) like on some Linux distros

#

Hell, Microsoft also made a first party package manager

#

Winget

wild sigil
#

Winget fr

sand pecan
#

Ok idk what is going on here

#

Arch isn't detecting any of my network interfaces

near maple
#

how big the drive should be

sand pecan
#

I've booted linux off a hard drive

#

It's a lot less picky than windows

#

Speed doesn't matter too much

fallow belfry
near maple
#

my current usb is like 16 and mad slow

#

will look for a new one

#

16gb

sand pecan
#

we are so back

near maple
#

how compatable are windows apps with linux

#

i will try to use linux from a thumbdrive

#

do i need to reinstall my apps

#

stuff like discord / firefox

#

can i get them working in BOTH windows and linux and having them both synced

#

if i could get everything working , imo ill main linux and only boot to windows if soemthing really requires it

fallow belfry
mortal totem
#

Most services now have syncing built in but that requires accounts ofc

forest latch
#

I wonder if symlinks would work with programs

#

Though it probably wouldn't be stable on software on windows and Linux

#

But theoretically if the software uses the same file format on both windows and Linux, wouldn't you technically be able to symbolically link the folders and have it be synced on whether you access it from Windows or linux

mortal totem
#

Usually the issue with that is temporary files and caches mismatching

sand pecan
#

even steam proton games have trouble with using the same partition as windows

#

I'd keep stuff separate in case of shenanigans

#

most online services will sync

#

there is always WSL

#

if you want the best workflow WSL would be relatively hassle free

fallow belfry
#

The fact that it took this long to exploit GRUB is amazing

dusk kernel
#

On a Fedora 41 + KDE system that I use for audio/music stuff, I have one application (RaySession) that opens several other applications and manages the connections between them. In the past I've had KDE save the window positions so that everything is in the same location each time I start the system.

I've been thinking about changing this system to use a tiling window manager. I've never actually used a tiling window manager, so I'm doing a some research first. Can a tiling window manager put applications in the correct tiles each time they're started by RaySession?

sand pecan
#

I use Hyprland (not much experience with i3)

#

according to reddit it's got window rules that determines how apps open

dusk kernel
# sand pecan https://www.reddit.com/r/hyprland/comments/1bqk0pr/launch_apps_in_specific_layou...

Cool, thanks! I'll add that to my reading list. heh heh A random youtube video about setting up Hyprland is what got me thinking about this. So, if Hyprland can do what I want, I'm at least looking in the right direction.

The complication is that all but the first 2 apps I launch are launched by the 2nd app so that it can manage the audio connections between the others. "An app launching other apps" might be different than "launching apps." I guess I'll find out... eventually. 😁

sand pecan
#

Hyprland is a wayland compositor so it might be annoying with nvidia gpus

#

It's working fine with my RTX 3070 laptop at the moment

#

this page is pretty useful

#

even for non-hyprland wayland sessions involving nvidia

dusk kernel
#

Yes, I also have an NVIDIA GPU (I think the box in question has a GTX 960), so I'm crossing my fingers that it won't be an issue. I only occasionally use Wayland, but that's solely because Gyazo doesn't work on Wayland. The box I'd be using hyprland on doesn't really need gyazo though.

sand pecan
#

if you really need gyazo

#

but if you don't

#

hyprland would work

#

since you use Fedora i3 might be a better option tbh

dusk kernel
#

I'll check out hyperland first since I would only rarely need gyazo on that particular box. Or maybe KDE had just enough tiling functionality to accomplish what I want.

sand pecan
#

Hyprland has more support on arch/nix/opensuse

dusk kernel
#

OK, gotcha. I'll look into i3 also.

sand pecan
#

i3wm also works on most distros

sand pecan
marsh shore
#

is linux hard to learn?

forest latch
#

Hard? No

#

Well, it does depend on if you go straight into a more complicated distro like arch

#

But if you're just starting out, and you use something like mint, it's not hard

sand pecan
#

Arch in my experience is a really good learning tool for linux

#

However you'll have to be very persistent with it

#

The arch wiki is really good

forest latch
#

i'm talking about someone who has probably never interfaced with a command line (or at most just followed an online guide) on windows

sand pecan
#

True

#

The first linux distros I've used never really lasted more than a week

forest latch
#

if somebody asks "is linux hard to learn", it's probably safe to assume they've never touched linux lmao

sand pecan
#

Until I started using arch

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That's also when I stopped just pasting commands from google

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You don't necessarily have to start with a pure arch

forest latch
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true

sand pecan
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You can use an arch install script

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Actually arch based can be less hassle

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Since the arch wiki is so detailed

fallow belfry
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We can boil the answer down to "it depends how deep into the rabbit hole you want to go"

sand pecan
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And the aur is really convenient

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Although rolling release can be unstable at times

sand pecan
dusk kernel
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***FIRST COMMENT OF 2025!!! *** 🤣

strong plover
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Congratulations

ornate finch
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The lamest award

forest latch
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you get a single dollar store sticker for that

ornate finch
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wait hold on a moment can i have one

sand pecan
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wiping drive goes brr

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I've always wanted to destroy data with dd

fast mango
sand pecan
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post neofetch

strong plover
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Windows spotted- fake Linux user

dusk kernel
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Is that a Nobara Live ISO running in a VirtualBox VM on Windows 10?

fast mango
fast mango
fast mango
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We made it

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Now lets play warframe and see how it runs FlamesBeige

sand pecan
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Putting Debian on a seagate nas

sand pecan
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This kernel is not starting

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💀

night charm
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this thing flies

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from power button to login screen in ~15 seconds

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for those interested, running an i7-8700 with arch linux on some junk 256gb wd nvme SSD, booted with EFIstub in lieu of a boot manager

fallow belfry
sand pecan
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It changed when it booted into the linux kernel

fallow belfry
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Did you forget to set your DHCP to give out the static address lol

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I always try to remember to change my DHCP settings so even if I have to reset network settings when it asks the server for the address again it still grabs the correct one

sand pecan
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Apparently it's documented behaviour

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Common enough to show up on the debian wiki for this nas

fallow belfry
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Wow it just decides not to listen to your settings then

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trippy

sand pecan
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seagate moment seagate moment

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wawit

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i swear to god if it installed gnome...

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nooooo

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you're not installing gnome on my nas

fallow belfry
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This is why I DIY my network stuff

sand pecan
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ok I don't think it installed gnome

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we're safe

fallow belfry
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I can set up an old HP workstation with a bunch of HDD slots and SATA ports with a headless server interface and it's way more functional than any NAS

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So I did

sand pecan
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this is a free nas so

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that's the only reason I have it really

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maybe in the future I'll upgrade to an actual pc

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does raspberry pi has pcie?

fallow belfry
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It can

sand pecan
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or any arm socs

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hmm

fallow belfry
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It has M.2 that can be adapted

sand pecan
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Maybe in a couple of years I'll buy an used mac mini

sand pecan
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I wonder if there's dedicated NAS motherboards

fallow belfry
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From the pi 5 page

sand pecan
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with arm

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pi5

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oops

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meant to type that onto my browser

night charm
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why didnt they add that sooner lol

sand pecan
fallow belfry
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SoC limitations

night charm
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so much better than booting off a glorified crayon

sand pecan
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ah

night charm
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oh, that makes sense lol

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just being cynical

sand pecan
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how many lanes does it have hmm

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gonna check rq

night charm
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does it take a full 2280?

fallow belfry
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2 per slot iirc

sand pecan
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oh

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so not great for nas atm

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Pcie 2.0 x1

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yeah...

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not many hdds then

fallow belfry
sand pecan
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sigh

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welp

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idea

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gonna get an engineering degree and make my own board

fallow belfry
sand pecan
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true

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kinda limited as a nas tho

mortal totem
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Yeah the pi’s pcie interface is still limited

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I forgot I think people were able to get it to 500-800mb/s

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For drives I mean

fast mango
fallow belfry
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That should go fairly quick, nothing to panic about there

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Probably won't even need to restart

fast mango
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Pretty crazy how small everything is yet it still has so many features and customization

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I noticed how quickly the computer goes and wakes from sleep a couple days ago

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Its really fast

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I downloaded ignition and apps open super fast on startup

forest latch
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Almost as if you don't need to have a huge clunky heavy UI app to make something useful

sand pecan
fast mango
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fr

fast mango
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Why is my flatpak folder taking up almost 16g blobskullandcrossbones blobskullandcrossbones

sand pecan
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Flakpak moment

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Does flakpak build from source?

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You might have the build files

fast mango
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This guy is saying it creates a sandbox of the app so it runs independently

sand pecan
fast mango
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So youll have two of the same app

sand pecan
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Not sure if it keeps the source code

fast mango
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I think I misunderstood but basically every app has its own sandbox which takes up a lot of space

sand pecan
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Essentially a lot of linux applications are building straight from the source

fast mango
sand pecan
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I usually just use the distro repo

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Then again I use arch

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AUR is pretty convenient

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You're on a Fedora based distro right?

fast mango
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Yeah

sand pecan
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I'd stick to DNF

fast mango
sand pecan
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Arch is a bit more unstable

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But imo the package system is the best I've used

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Are you still on a vm?

fast mango
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Nah I just used the vm for a short amount of time

sand pecan
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Ah

fast mango
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I shrunk my windows partition

sand pecan
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I'd try out archinstall on a vm

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Or stick with DNF

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I can't say how fedora's package system is