Forgot the Q87 at the beginning
#electronics
royal quest
kindred yacht
Deviwiki agrees, version 1.1
kindred yacht
kindred yacht
Yeah I had to go through the main site database to find it
royal quest
Ok. I appreciate it. Probably gonna have to switch over to my phone so I can do this Im guessing in case I have any questions
So I turned off all my wifi and now I can't connect to the router at all using a default gateway ip of 192.168.1.1
@kindred yacht @void pawn any ideas???
kindred yacht
You connected with ethernet?
kindred yacht
Open a command prompt and enter "ipconfig" and check that you have an IP assigned and what the gateway is
craggy flintBOT
[1K-1] D.Viper#7346 has been warned
kindred yacht
Figured that was the case
royal quest
Still not working
kindred yacht
Check your IP assignment in command prompt still then
kindred yacht
You're in the LAN port, not the WAN, right? And you already reset defaults?
royal quest
Lan 1 and held reset for 30 seconds with power. 30 seconds without power
kindred yacht
Try rebooting the computer and try again
royal quest
Ok restarting PC now
Might be a configuration issue. Last time I used the Ethernet port on this system I had a cat8 cable connected
kindred yacht
Dang didn't even notice they released cat8 already
That wouldn't make a difference anyway. If anything we can reset the configuration but cable doesn't matter.
royal quest
Yeah now I'm getting a Smart status error from a drive I've been backing up and now can't get Windows to boot since I don't know how to turn that crap off in my BIOS
NM figured it out
kindred yacht
You usually bypass that by manually selecting boot device in boot tab
royal quest
I turned off smart check
Still no Bueno on connecting to the router
It didn't reset the router when I did the reset button
I tried Edge instead of chrome and its asking for username and password
Ha got in finally
@kindred yacht so firmware is showing version 1.01.36
But I can't find where to update the firmware
kindred yacht
Usually it's under administration or something
royal quest
Yeah I Google it. I'm a idiot I didn't see it
Ok upgrading it now
I hope this works
Fml it failed
kindred yacht
Reset to defaults and try again
royal quest
Didn't change anything on the router
Still clicked restore factory defaults just in case
Hay it worked
Got the Firmware Upgrade Successful screen
kindred yacht
Nice! That's the hard part down
kindred yacht
Same way, check instructions but it's usually 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
royal quest
Ipcpnfig is telling me no default gateway
kindred yacht
"Wireless Repeater Bridge Setup - DD-WRT Advanced Wireless" https://support.flashrouters.com/setup-guides/advanced-wireless-setup/wireless-repeater-bridge-setup/
You don't need repeater mode, just client bridge btw
You can skip the virtual interface
royal quest
Oh. Lol I followed all the instructions
So now do I just connect wirelessly then or still stay hardwired?
kindred yacht
Stay hardwired and it'll basically act as a wireless adapter
royal quest
Its not working for some reason
kindred yacht
Define not working
kindred yacht
Open admin command prompt,
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
That'll fetch a new IP matching the correct network
kindred yacht
If it fails you can enter it manually, you just need to find the correct network address
royal quest
Yeah
kindred yacht
Give it a reboot first though
royal quest
The router or pc cause it just gave me a error of unable to connect to your dhcp server
kindred yacht
Both
royal quest
Ok
kindred yacht
Router first
kindred yacht
Maybe. A couple possibilities include that.
You can always hard reset the router if need be, dd-wrt will still stay on there.
royal quest
Right. Just a pain to go through and do everything again
royal quest
Ok so Windows diagnostics says Invalid IP config
So how do I get the IP of the modem and router then???
kindred yacht
Your ISP router typically says right on the box what the default IP is
royal quest
Well on the brightside I have full signal so not sure of that part is working or not
Oh
kindred yacht
Typically 192.168.1.1 but sometimes they're weird like 192.168.10.1
royal quest
All I see is a Mac address
kindred yacht
Your phone is connected to it right?
kindred yacht
You can find the net from the phone settings
When you get the router running do you need to be able to see other devices that are on your network, like a smart TV or a media server?
royal quest
192.168.1.108
kindred yacht
Perfect your router is 192.168.1.1 with a subnet 255.255.255.0
royal quest
So the router took cause it has its own wifi name and I see it on my phone
kindred yacht
If you connect your phone to the new wifi does it get internet?
royal quest
Well heres the thing I see the name I put in and a dd-wrt
But can't connect to either network
Dd-wrt says no internet
kindred yacht
Ok so the router is having trouble connecting to your ISP router
royal quest
Dam
kindred yacht
Go in and reset the router to defaults and we'll try Client Mode
royal quest
On the one connected to my pc??
kindred yacht
Yes
This will make the router act like a device that's accessing the ISP router, but it will have its own network behind that device
royal quest
Ok
Hmmm interesting. The AP keeps dropping from the router
But it isn't the right mac address
kindred yacht
Mac address isn't a concern
Every ISP provided modem/router combo has at least 3 different MAC addresses
royal quest
Ah
kindred yacht
The one on the label is probably the one that goes to the net
royal quest
Ok
kindred yacht
Now what did you mean it keeps dropping?
royal quest
It drops off the list of connections. It goes 100% signal to not showing a connection at all
royal quest
No the router connected to my pc
kindred yacht
Ok so the new router is losing connection to the ISP router?
kindred yacht
That's optional but you don't need a second firewall anyway
It just adds to potential problems later in my experience...
When it's connected is it getting an internet connection?
On your PC
kindred yacht
What IP settings did you do?
kindred yacht
And the wireless net is set to 192.168.1.1? or DHCP?
DHCP is less configuring needed
royal quest
DHCP
kindred yacht
Ok
When you did the wireless settings, you did WPA2 right? Double check the password too
royal quest
Password is right. WPA2-
kindred yacht
AES or PSK?
royal quest
Psk
royal quest
I don't have a AES option
But my phone shows its WPA2-PSK
The WPA Algorythms were set to TKIP-CCMP (AES)
kindred yacht
Sorry, tired brain. It was between AES and TKIP
kindred yacht
Now I'm confused. Is there 3 algorithm modes available? AES should be used over TKIP but sometimes there's an auto select option too
AES is even required on some modern routers
royal quest
WPA-PSK, WPA2-PSK, WPA2-PSK/WPA-PSK, WEP
For the security modes and I get CCMP-128 (AES), TKIP+CCMP (AES), TKIP for my options on the Algorithms
royal quest
Ok
kindred yacht
Ok did some reading and we'll try this version, the latest one released an hour ago. The one before was an older version.
kindred yacht
It's easier this time
royal quest
Thank the gods
kindred yacht
Side note I just noticed they finally added support for my router, finally. It's only a 6 year old model.
royal quest
Is that from the dd site or from linksys???
kindred yacht
I got it from the dd-wrt ftp server
royal quest
Ok
Dm me the instructions. I need to get some sleep. Have to take kids to school, gf to dr appt and then go to work
FML just seen the Router is on 192.168.0.3
That would explain alot
kindred yacht
No problem, ping me when you have some time later to work on it. I'm pretty open today (except chores and a DnD session in the evening)
royal quest
Ok
kindred yacht
In the meantime I feel like playing some russian roulette with my router firmware... I can't seem to find any info on when they added my router to their support list and I have a backup router so I'mma go for it
late flame
Do I install windows on partition one or two?
balmy spindle
kindred yacht
When you're installing windows the installer will detect and configure the bootloader as needed automatically.
You could have a full Linux setup on a logical volume containing 4 partitions, and then tell windows to use the remaining part of the disk, and it'll still work.
serene mantle
y oter keyboard ot sorted out wat do i do ow
small meadow
What
kindred yacht
humble idol
Can anybody help me
I went to update my laptop. Now it won't boot. It says unable to boot, or something along those lines. Its running Windows 10
honest hull
I’m looking for a certain item, not sure if I should be asking in this channel. So I need an extension cord that can fit through this small ~1.5 inch hole in my desk and normal power cables for computers and whatnot do not fit. Anyone know of any good extension cords that have smaller cables or something?
halcyon flower
what is the best cpu for a 1300-1500 budget?
sturdy jolt
prob 11400 atm
honest hull
what is the best cpu for a 1300-1500 budget?
Ryzen 5 3600 is always a safe option
honest hull
Amd will always be superior
void pawn
Nope
Not in the 3600 realm
Not price/performance right now either. AMD has become the high end
honest hull
That sucks
craggy flintBOT
Preston#7132 has been warned
honest hull
🤦♂️
void pawn
Not really, competition is good for the consumer
calm mural
yes this is why nasa for example picks 2 companies to do "1 thing", if 1 fails the other logically will not
spare flicker
hi guys, my laptop won't start and I have serious suspicions that the power buttons ribbon cable might be damaged. It's an ASUS X550IK, any ideas if I can jump start it to see if the power button is at fauly?
untold pecan
spare flicker
not much luck there neither
The thing is, it's not just a button, it's a button connected to the motherboard via a ribbon cable. I would know how to short it if it was a button with 4 solders on the motherboard, but not sure how with the ribbon cables.
void pawn
The thing is, it's not just a button, it's a button connected to the motherboard...
Without knowing the pinout of the switch, it's going to be really hard to say. how many wires are in the ribbon?
spare flicker
Oh sorry about that, it's the 6pin ribbon cable.
It's basically this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Power-Button-Board-With-Cable-For-Asus-Y581C-X552C-X552L-X550LD-X550CL-X550L-/133460374370?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
calm mural
Has anyone taken a battery out of a early 2011 MacBook Pro? If so what are some things I should look out for?
echo parrot
maybe glue
nova pond
Has anyone taken a battery out of a early 2011 MacBook Pro? If so what are some ...
proprietary screws
you need a very special bit
calm mural
I have the iFixit kit to do it
nova pond
does it have that bit?
It seems like it does
should be painless then
make sure to take care with the internal cables tho
they do be fragile
calm mural
Thanks Mike
nova pond
Thanks Mike
YW
royal quest
@void pawn I cant get ahold of Fal Ci can you help walk me through the TFTP stuff for flashing back to a Different Firmware on my WR600N Linksys Router???
void pawn
I've never done it and have no idea how it works. XD Sorry. I only know it exists.
void pawn
I would assume you have to be connected by ethernet and run some sort of program on your PC to flash the new firmware but I have no idea how it actually works
royal quest
I have it connected VIA Cat5 cable and I have a TFTP server software thats free to use
echo parrot
graceful mauve
Hm
white skiff
hello
eager bison
hello
echo parrot
wispy jasper
General Kenobi
cobalt tree
any laptop recommendations besides m1 macbooks and the g14/15
cobalt tree
i hope the price isnt too steep, i looked into it a bit
triton 300se is cool but 4 core spu really is a let down
fallen panther
I’m a dell guy so I like the xps and g series
small meadow
Xps good dell prebuilt gaming v bad
Gamers nexus already had to make 2 30 minute vids
small meadow
any laptop recommendations besides m1 macbooks and the g14/15
Hp(i think) spectre is pretty good
fallen panther
Far more expensive work printer, DMG 3D 65 Hybrid laser metal printing machine
desert raptor
this server should become a shopping server tbh
wraith steppe
Have you modded the ender 3? I just picked one up
fallen panther
Have you modded the ender 3? I just picked one up
Yeah the major thing is the direct drive extruder upgrade, you can get the fancy expensive one from matterhackers or the like $30 direct from creality but you’ll have to wait like 3 weeks for shipping from china
wraith steppe
I went with https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SY745CF
fallen panther
Also did cable guides, printed them from a model off of Thingiverse
That’s still a Bowden setup, direct drive puts the extruder directly above the hotend, it lets you print flexibles like TPU or Ninjaflex
wraith steppe
ah yeah, I also use a maker select plus (wanhao i3 clone) - uses that config
Need to print some z axis braces for it
bronze radish
Anyone have any recommendations for a 3.5mm headphone extension cable with an inline remote? It would be for an iPod Nano 7th gen, if that matters. I use my iPod for yard work, and my old headphones had the remote built in, but I ran them over with the lawn mower and my new headphones don't have one.
solemn scarab
Should i get the iPhone Xs or the Xr
kindred yacht
sturdy jolt
that video is great
echo parrot
epic skill
jovial prairie
Does the battery in a UPS need to be discharged occasionally to maintain longevity?
fallen panther
Is the battery Lead-acid, Nicd, or Li-poly
jovial prairie
I'm guessing seal lead acid. I haven't looked for a replacement yet. It's a 2 year old Cyberpowet 1350 VA
fallen panther
Never discharge a lead acid completely from what I remember
fallen panther
fallen panther
Don’t remember, I gotta find my sample or contact the rep
I think for the resin it was like 50 micron but the metal was thicker
kindred yacht
3D printed PCB from home systems soon???
sturdy jolt
We'll see
kindred yacht
That would be really epic though, getting into more Star Trek-like tech with it seeming to appear from nothing
sturdy jolt
I mean, I'm thinking of barriers in engineering using 3d printing because of needs for isolation layers like UBM that's like 2-5 micrometers thick
kindred yacht
Give it 10 years
eager bison
they kinda already make those
altho they pricy as hecc
and i think they can only do single layer pcbs
sturdy jolt
Oh boy
I was trying to figure out how thick word lines were
And it was measured in angstroms
eager bison
tf kinda unit is that
sturdy jolt
1/10,000 a micron aparently
a thickness of the cell word lines is about 700-800 angstroms.
kindred yacht
I'm sure in early phases of adoption for the tech it won't be practical for advanced computing, but more basic things would be cake. It opens up a potential for a market shift, specialized items that cost more only because they're used so infrequently can have that cost offloaded to the consumer, who simply has to buy a compatible printer.
... Now I want a 3D printer to make my own Lego sets
sturdy jolt
Of course, but also, there's some barriers the technology has to overcome in terms of capabilities before being able to lower price enough to be viable for consumers
kindred yacht
We'll get there. Necessity is the mother of invention, and companies love cutting costs anywhere they can.
sturdy jolt
Mhm, I was just talking about current barriers that have not been overcame yet
It would be great when we do overcome those barriers, but that day is not today.
fallen panther
I'm sure in early phases of adoption for the tech it won't be practical for adva...
Actually its because the parent company still holds the patent on the tech so they’re the sole developer (while there may be other companies trying to make something similar a different way) so until the patent is up in another 10-15 years, its a bit stuck. After that, you get your chinese devs to come up with cheap versions and saturate the market, like what happened with the regular fdm printers
Stratasys still holds some patents for 3d printers, but the big thing you didn’t see forever was heated build chambers. That patent went up in january of this year, so now printer companies are coming out with their own much cheaper versions so we can print peek, nylon, pc, etc
chrome dust
bruh
fallen panther
go to the junkyard, buy a rusty dumpy car, and roll it onto their yard in the middle of the night then take the wheels off
Heh
We do a little trolling
kindred yacht
This ties into what we were talking about earlier. I found this really interesting.
https://youtu.be/gxbyWly_pls
knotty glade
Hello. NewEgg sent me here for a technical purchase question. Does anyone know of a laptop that has the same specs as the link below but with a full 9-key key pad? https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-0016-01TY6
sturdy jolt
One with similar specs:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834155857
knotty glade
Do you believe this one would Best Regards, capable of heavy rendering/3D? It’s not for gaming, rather landscape software
Be best^ sorry for the typo
sturdy jolt
Well, the CPU and the GPU are both better, but it only comes with 16gb of ram, so the answer depends on how ram-intensive your tasks are
knotty glade
Sorry for being needed. The storage is 512 GB NVMe SSD + 1 TB HDD - do you think I should focus on swapping out the HDD for a SSD?
@sturdy jolt do you want know the max ram this computer can have?
sturdy jolt
@knotty glade up to 64gb in 2 slots
knotty glade
@sturdy jolt Thank you! Is the OS on the ssd or the HDD? And do you recommend any particular ram?
toxic iron
I need help finding connectors for my hot tub circuit board
kindred yacht
I need help finding connectors for my hot tub circuit board
You're going to need to be a LOT more specific, preferably with pictures (should be able to post in #build-pics I think until your name turns green)
novel coral
Anyone familiar with ubertooth Bluetooth sniffing device and getting it up and running after following instructions
small meadow
What could you possibly want to do with that that is ethical smh
fallen panther
Go around town and force guy’s phones to connect to a bluetooth speaker while they are in the bathroom
old vapor
They'll be playing a specific soundtrack involving drums
green stream
Yikes
wraith steppe
🧯
gray viper
be free magic smoke, be freeeeee
foggy valley
Can somone help me rq
small meadow
Can somone help me rq
With what
muted hawk
Better to just ask your question than just ask for help so people can get straight to it
wraith steppe
old vapor
but listen, i require assistance but i won't ever say what i need help with
wide vault
heady rapids
i need help with mental problems, recently ive been having more negative thoughts and i think its because of lack of human interactions.. is this a good example?
i dont actually want help for that though
heady rapids
what ai
heady rapids
bruh
heady rapids
human interaction bad
i agree with this but there's a point where not having enough interaction is bad
kindred yacht
turned a channel to a nsfw channel in my old server
What do you mean? Does it have a discord bot now?
kindred yacht
Well I'll be darned https://top.gg/bot/712635007981846601
Years back they got this bot to pass the turing test lol
green stream
small meadow
Samsung out here catfishing ppl XD noone liked bixby and it's probs just bixby smh
green stream
Pretty much
old moss
https://i.imgur.com/ySxDGjY.png
I got a virtual kiss from cleverbot once
old vapor
lmao
kindred yacht
ISP provided router time?
nova pond
Falcie giv router to his gang?
wide vault
rain fiber
Hey, im currently using a school owned laptop, I need to install paint.net; is there anyway to install it without admin perms, I really want is an an emergency. everytime I try to do a script to install it, it says it needs admin privillage.
echo parrot
why paint.net specifically?
could use this web based editor
and you can draw on it
wide vault
pdn is nice for minecraft texture editing
oblique gazelle
Idrk what channel to ask this in, opinions on this? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08TL7N2FZ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A2WEQERLWJ42N3&psc=1
oblique gazelle
Yeah my mom wants to spend as little as possible
I said I'd pay the 100$ for a new i5 10th gen but she wouldn't let me
It's better than the laptops ar my local pc shop. 6th gen i5 with a scratch on it for 430$
chrome dust
it's an alright laptop
oblique gazelle
Is it a decent price?
nova pond
renewed means it had some fault originally tho. I wouldnt trust it
nova pond
what does refurbished mean according to you?
oblique gazelle
A laptop that someone returned/sold
chrome dust
and fixed to working order again
open box is better tbh
no issue
just either lightly used or just opened
oblique gazelle
its also 100$ less for the same stuff, maybe less battery life
chrome dust
eh should be similar
oblique gazelle
thanks
chrome dust
i say go for it
oblique gazelle
wish i could convince my dad to trust ryzen
oblique gazelle
3200g or 3400g most likely
sturdy jolt
sad
oblique gazelle
figured the graphics wouldnt hurt to have
chrome dust
and that i3 has similar gpu performance anyway
oblique gazelle
oh wait really?
sturdy jolt
ye, ryzen 3000 laptop were just zen+
chrome dust
while giving more cpu power
quite a bit more
yes, 3200u uses vega 3, that's also handicapped
oblique gazelle
i thought intel integrated was complete trash, vega 8 = 1030/710
sturdy jolt
4000 laptop chips get good, 5000 great
oblique gazelle
oh
chrome dust
slower than one in athlon desktop
oblique gazelle
i thougth 3200g had vega 8
chrome dust
ye
sturdy jolt
different chips
oblique gazelle
ohhhhh
sturdy jolt
also, 1030 should be quite a bit above a vega 8, 710 is just kinda trash for anything but driving monitors anyways
oblique gazelle
even so my dad hates amd
oblique gazelle
also, 1030 should be quite a bit above a vega 8, 710 is just kinda trash for any...
1030=710
i thought it ws vega 8 not vega 3
wait yeah sorry i read that wrong
chrome dust
no, 710 is way slower than 1030
oblique gazelle
1030 is a low profile gpu, its equivelant is the 710
sturdy jolt
oblique gazelle
idk what i was seeing then
chrome dust
anyway, 4300u is very easy to keep running cool, and is pretty fast for what it is
oblique gazelle
low profile just means well, small
1030 is pretty awful for gaming, i barely run bo4 at 40fps on 1050p
chrome dust
however seeing how your fam hates amd, well, intel is best choice
sturdy jolt
that's not bad at all compared to iGPUs tho
oblique gazelle
true
sturdy jolt
it's all relative
chrome dust
i feel lucky that well, my dad doesn't care what brand is the stuff in a laptop or pc is
he just needs to make sure i get smth good lmao
so he well, relies on me choosing
oblique gazelle
my dad used to be a pc guy, he built a full amd build like 15 years ago or smthn like that and it basically exploded
but amd has gotten a lot better since then
i like how he doesnt realize his old laptop was ryzen lmao
nova pond
my dad used to be a pc guy, he built a full amd build like 15 years ago or smthn...
cpus cant explode tho
oblique gazelle
cpus cant explode tho
not literally my guy
nova pond
not literally my guy
how else do things explode tho?
oblique gazelle
idk exactly what happened id have to ask him
magic temple
But I highly suspect it was not the CPU that caused the fire.
kindred yacht
cpus cant explode tho
They can if you stick a firecracker on it
heady rapids
Does anyone know what this connector is? It's an hhd
kindred yacht
IDE 44 (43) pin
heady rapids
Thank you
calm mural
calm mural
hey everyone! I don't know if this is against the rules to ask or anything, but does anyone know if it is possible to like Downgrade a LG G4 (us991 I think) to KitKat? I've been into older android versions recently and I want to do that. But I have no idea how
kindred yacht
hey everyone! I don't know if this is against the rules to ask or anything, but ...
I know exactly what you're doing and rooting isn't against the rules afaik
Unfortunately for you, there's no official firmware package for your phone model that goes before 5.0 Lollipop. This leaves your only options being to compile and install your own version of the 4.4 firmware, or use a custom OS.
void pawn
Rooting is fine lol.
chrome dust
I can't help but silently judge them lmao
Going down to kitkat is like suicide in security and support
kindred yacht
Lollipop killed most root paths though. What you do is downgrade to 4.4 so you can root more easily, then install a CFW. There's nightly builds up to the most recent android version.
chrome dust
yeh, these days you need magisk
I just don't bother with rooting at all myself, even tho I run custom rom
small meadow
hey everyone! I don't know if this is against the rules to ask or anything, but ...
Just install lineage OS for your phone, automatic root and don't need to go to kitkat
novel badge
Hi
calm mural
Just install lineage OS for your phone, automatic root and don't need to go to k...
alr, ill do that later
simple sierra
asus tuf dash prob
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-14-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-1tb-ssd-moonlight-white-moonlight-white/6452913.p?skuId=6452913 this mught also work
rog will be better for productivity i think
since ryzen mobile
but significantly worse for gaming
chrome dust
but significantly worse for gaming
well no, the ryzen one is still better overall lmao
simple sierra
well no, the ryzen one is still better overall lmao
3070 vs 3060 ehhh
simple sierra
that is true
calm mural
hey everyone it's me again. What's a good Droid phone for normal use? (Tiktok, insta, discord, etc and some games)? I've been looking at the Droid Maxx because I used to have one but 9 year old me broke it unfortunately. If that doesn't work out ill probably buy a LG Phoenix 4 lol
small meadow
hey everyone it's me again. What's a good Droid phone for normal use? (Tiktok, i...
I wouldn't get an lg, their not making phones anymore so not much longer graphics support
I'd recommend looking at Motorola, samsung, oneplus and pixel
calm mural
I'd recommend looking at Motorola, samsung, oneplus and pixel
Ik, the Droid Maxx I mentioned is made by Motorola lol
small meadow
Ik, the Droid Maxx I mentioned is made by Motorola lol
Ohh right, just droid is a very old term, i don't think they make them anymore, i was thinking more of their moto e/g line
calm mural
Ohh right, just droid is a very old term, i don't think they make them anymore, ...
Yeah, I've actually had one! The G5 Plus. My dad gave it to me for my birthday, and I was helping him at a construction job and I dropped it out of my pocket, fell 30ft onto a cinder block and OBLITERATED the screen lol
small meadow
Ooof
calm mural
Oh I just realized I haven't saif what phone I'm using atm lol I'm using a Razer Phone 2 with a broken screen due to my dropping it on the side of a door entry or whatever
Pretty awesome for gaming, I don't really notice the cracks now
small meadow
You could just get the screen replaced then instead of a new phone then
calm mural
I've tried looking into it, probably around 300-400 bucks for a Razer phone repair
gusty abyss
Razer phones
nova pond
Razer phones<:wuuut:598228820545503233>
they do be nais
kindred yacht
I never did manage to break my Motorola flip phone. Believe me, I tried. I'd bounce it off the concrete and catch it all the time.
nova pond
I never did manage to break my Motorola flip phone. Believe me, I tried. I'd bou...
I had a friend who used to play football with his feature phone with no damage except scuffs to the phone
old vapor
they made them good back then
could take a bullet for you and still be perfectly functioning
chrome dust
I like razer phones
green stream
Nokia 
chrome dust
nokia is now chinese owned
ree
but they're still good phones however
android is pretty much stock
with some nokia touches
heavy tundra
I'm debating on 2 phones,
Either the Iphone SE 2nd gen or the Iphone XR
which one should I get?
halcyon tapir
I'm debating on 2 phones,
Either the Iphone SE 2nd gen or the Iphone XR
which on...
google pixel 4a
iphone se is also good
better than xr
if thats the only options
nova pond
I'm debating on 2 phones,
Either the Iphone SE 2nd gen or the Iphone XR
which on...
SE is faster XR bigger battery and screen
nova pond
better than xr
not in some cases
nova pond
google pixel 4a
absolutely gets punked in by both the phones OP mentioned
halcyon tapir
absolutely gets punked in by both the phones OP mentioned
its cool tho and cheep
and android
not ios
so plus
nova pond
its cool tho and cheep
so inferior and cheaper is a plus then?
halcyon tapir
so inferior and cheaper is a plus then?
it has android so not inferior
sturdy jolt
there's better android phones for around the price afaik
pixel is great but meh in terms of value
nova pond
it has android so not inferior
personal preference my guy
nova pond
In my opinion iOS slaps the poop outta android
small meadow
google pixel 4a
Some ppl like ios/stuck too deep in the orchard sooo
small meadow
pixel is great but meh in terms of value
Yeah a oneplus nord is way better value
halcyon tapir
depends what android, and android 14(?) is a really good update to android
nova pond
depends what android, and android 14(?) is a really good update to android
andriod 12 is in beta iirc
sturdy jolt
side note, pixel 4a seems to actually have better cameras by specs than the iphones listed?
nova pond
lol
halcyon tapir
andriod 12 is in beta iirc
12 yeah not 14
nova pond
side note, pixel 4a seems to actually have better cameras by specs than the ipho...
appertures
halcyon tapir
side note, pixel 4a seems to actually have better cameras by specs than the ipho...
yeah 4a camera pretty good i have it
nova pond
megapixel wise iphone cameras are trash
They outperform cameras with 2-3x more megapixels tho
small meadow
side note, pixel 4a seems to actually have better cameras by specs than the ipho...
Yeah iPhone haven't changed camera in years just great os optimisation
sturdy jolt
eh
nova pond
iphone 12 pro max has the best video cam on a phone currently
sturdy jolt
I do like pictures from pixel camera over iphone tho, but that's personal preference ig
nova pond
the oneplus flagship and the s21 beat it in terms of photos tho
halcyon tapir
iphone 12 pro max has the best video cam on a phone currently
yes, for 1100 dollars lolololol
nova pond
Yeah iPhone haven't changed camera in years just great os optimisation
They make apperture bigger every year
whick makes more of a difference to picture quality than megapixel count
small meadow
They make apperture bigger every year
But they've used the same sony sensor for years lol
sturdy jolt
phones are really down to preference now tbh
nova pond
yes, for 1100 dollars lolololol
compared it to phones aroud the same price smh
halcyon tapir
compared it to phones aroud the same price smh
what phones are that expensive
nova pond
what phones are that expensive
the s21 ultra i mentioned in the message right after the one you tagged me in
lmao
halcyon tapir
the s21 ultra i mentioned in the message right after the one you tagged me in
ah k
who would buy a phone for that much wtf
small meadow
A lot of ppl, especially if they buy it as part of their carriers plan, pay an extra 20$ a month and get it for 400$ or something lol
nova pond
But they've used the same sony sensor for years lol
nah not at all
small meadow
nah not at all
I swear they have mb I'm tripping
nova pond
yeah you are
if they wanted to use the same sensor with a larger apperture the focal length woulda been whack
lot further that is
the camera bump woulda been thicker than the phone
small meadow
Ahh i see
dry summit
konica minolta xg-1
jovial gust
elc
small meadow
Think my gf has Sony a600 and likes it
old vapor
a6000 is good, supports emount lenses
and is still small
oh shoot, wrong one
I was thinking of like, the Alpha 6100/6600 lol
6100 is cheaper, but can record 4k and has an adjustable touchscreen
lost tapir
Guys I didnt poweroff my pc last night for dowloading games and when i was waking up, i noticed that it shutdowned automatically . How can i know why did it shut down automatically?
And in the morning when i powered it on, it didnt start for the first time
But it started for the second time.
old moss
you might have a setting that shuts it down automatically
lost tapir
How can i know i dont
warm fable
What's going on
warm fable
Oh
lost tapir
Read that
warm fable
You probably have a power saving thing on.
That shut your PC down after a few hours of inactivity.
Silly Windows.
You can turn it off under power options.
Just look up power options in the windows search you should see it.
lost tapir
And
warm fable
Oh then just set it to "never" for sleep and shutdown modes.
lost tapir
How i can delet it?
lost tapir
Ok .thx . But i changed the setting for balanced mode , I think windows reset the settings
F windows
nova pond
Ok .thx . But i changed the setting for balanced mode , I think windows reset th...
each power plan has to be configured independantly
lost tapir
I mean Electricity came out
nova pond
yes how does electricity come out tho
lost tapir
I dont know the word
nova pond
use another one then
nova pond
oh so electricity cut?
lost tapir
Yeah
lost tapir
oh so electricity cut?
And after that night i tested my memory and it has hardware issue , i had memory mangment blue screen. Im going to go to warranty tomorrow
They have to change them
nova pond
what did ya use to test mem?
lost tapir
what did ya use to test mem?
Windows software
And yes i went to warranty and they said it takes 2 days
To test all of your pc hardwares
nova pond
Aight cool
graceful mauve
Aight cool
Its time for Apex
halcyon tapir
I was asleep
and ur weren't asleep then? lol
small meadow
and ur weren't asleep then? lol
Not everyone lives in murica
oblique gazelle
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/nupfyi/usava_h_surface_pro_3_i5_8gb_ram_256gb_ssd/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share is this second laptop worth it?
Idk much about how it compares to current cpus like the 1005g1
echo parrot
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/nupfyi/usava_h_surface_pro_3_i5_8...
doesnt look bad but id just make sure it doesnt have windows 10S on it
oblique gazelle
doesnt look bad but id just make sure it doesnt have windows 10S on it
10s?
echo parrot
10s can only download stuff from the microsoft store
small meadow
Only lets you download from ms store it sucky
echo parrot
but its unlikely that the laptop will have W10S
oblique gazelle
Ah kk
small meadow
but its unlikely that the laptop will have W10S
Idk i was looking for a budget laptop for someone and a lot of them had 10s
echo parrot
that one is older tho
6600U was before Windows 10 S I think
can just reinstall windows tho but its a hassel
small meadow
Ahh yeah it's fine then
Yeah but that's not for a lot of ppl lol
Usually when I'm picking laptop cheap it's someone who just wants "computer"
lost tapir
Aight cool
Hi. The warranty company said the memory problem isnt true and its becoz of they arent dual channel.Is it true? And they said we substitute memories on mobo and change the windows and they also said if it wouldnt work we replace the Memories for you.
nova pond
Hi. The warranty company said the memory problem isnt true and its becoz of they...
ok so can you send me a pic of how the ram is arranged in the pc?
lost tapir
ok so can you send me a pic of how the ram is arranged in the pc?
I dont have the pc right now they are still checking it in the company.
nova pond
Aight then u will have to wait till you get it and ask again
minor crypt
Yes, and friday is off coz of the election😞
oh cool what country
lost tapir
Its not cool😞
lost tapir
oh cool what country
Iran
minor crypt
i've got a friend flying out to iran tommorow what a coincidence
minor crypt
Its not cool😞
no? what happened
lost tapir
i've got a friend flying out to iran tommorow what a coincidence
Say to him to dont do that
minor crypt
Say to him to dont do that
why not..
lost tapir
Coz it will be a Protest, perhaps
And the street will get baned.
Is he going to go to Tehran?
minor crypt
i think so
probably
he's a journalist lol
just realized that's probably why he's going
minor crypt
And the street will get baned.
wdym baned tho
minor crypt
@lost tapir ?
lost tapir
<@!755864618181722252> ?
I mean it will be crowded
calm mural
AYO yall look at what I found now I don't gotta pay 40 dollars for a nother one
Droid MAXX(I think) if anyone is wondering
heavy tundra
should I get the Iphone SE 2020 or the Galaxy s10e
ruby vessel
should I get the Iphone SE 2020 or the Galaxy s10e
Galaxy
The SE battery absolutely sucks
It's like an IPhone 11 with half the battery
Since that's basically what it is
green stream
Hey the battery lasts me the day 😦
green stream
Yes
ruby vessel
I've used one for awhile and the battery was crap
Brand new aswell
Then I went to android and it was 10 fold better
green stream
Hi
craggy flintBOT
I drink your milkshake!
calm mural
wh
thorn gulch
Anyone know a cheap but decent USB to ARGB controller?
kindred yacht
Like, usb header adapter or a standard type A port?
thorn gulch
USB header
wraith steppe
Use an arduino
lost tapir
@nova pond are you online?
calm mural
Anyone else have Xfinity and been hearing like beeping noises or whatever from the box, it's like making noises outta nowhere
We have the newest router but not the newest cable box. It's been making noises off and on for the past couple of months and just a min ago it made a loud ass noise
It's the cable box that's making the noises, not the router. Routers perfectly fine
kindred yacht
It's the cable box that's making the noises, not the router. Routers perfectly f...
Their cable boxes use hard drives, it could be failing and the read arm is skipping on the disk. I'd get a replacement.
It could also be overheating, which would still warrant a replacement
calm mural
Their cable boxes use hard drives, it could be failing and the read arm is skipp...
Alright, I'll check it out when I'm back at my house in a bit. I don't think it's overheating, because the box turns on perfectly fine and runs normal but ill update when it's figured out
calm mural
@kindred yacht I did check it out, no signs of overheating but I wasn't able to check the hd cus its my dads cable box and I don't want to mess it up lol. He said he might call Xfinity and get them to look at it or just order a new one
velvet hedge
I'm moving out and I need a modem/router any recommendations? A lower end one will be fine since I'm just using it for a few devices
void pawn
DSL? Cable? What provider and speeds?
velvet hedge
Xfinity
small meadow
I'm moving out and I need a modem/router any recommendations? A lower end one wi...
Would you not use the one your isp provides for free then?
velvet hedge
Around 200down
velvet hedge
Would you not use the one your isp provides for free then?
It isn't free it's an extra 15 bucks a month so I'd rather have one myself and save money on the long run
velvet hedge
DSL? Cable? What provider and speeds?
Xfinity around 200 down (tops). I think Xfinity is cable
void pawn
Ya, I have just the modem for you. The one I have is fantastic
motorola MG7540
Literally was plug and play
velvet hedge
ooh okay bet
small meadow
It isn't free it's an extra 15 bucks a month so I'd rather have one myself and s...
Oof that's wack
Over here they free
velvet hedge
nope LOL
void pawn
Yeah modem rental fees are are the suck
small meadow
Yeah modem rental fees are are the suck
void pawn
$15 a month, buy your own modem and it's paid for after 10 months 😉
small meadow
$15 a month, buy your own modem and it's paid for after 10 months 😉
Probs better but I'm like 95% sure they free here so can't really justify a better router
kindred yacht
Xfinity loves their hidden fees.
I even had to pay extra to have a cable box, which was required to be able to use the service I was paying for. Then they have different tiers of cable box, the basic one has no local recording, only cloud storage and basic functions.
small meadow
Xfinity loves their hidden fees.
I even had to pay extra to have a cable box, wh...
Tbh all "cable" providers i guess you could call them are sketchy don't @ me XD
old vapor
Dell also loves their hidden fees
velvet hedge
Tbh all "cable" providers i guess you could call them are sketchy don't @ me XD
Tbh
Ok so someone help me get this. Does Xfinity require a plug in your house?
Like how I have frontier rn for dad and he has a cable, I think it's what u guys call dsl. (Ethernet cable basically) but Xfinity has a legit cable like an antenna cable
I don't see anything that resembles that in my house but when I checked for availability my house is clear
I'm going to go up to them in a few but just wanted to ask if any1 knows
nova pond
Dell also loves their hidden fees
Just like we love to segue to our sponsor glasswire
exotic zodiac
Can anyone recommend a good tablet? looking to spend around 300-400
small meadow
Can anyone recommend a good tablet? looking to spend around 300-400
There should be an ipad around that price
thorn gulch
Anyone know the max amperage of what the average USB 2.0 header on a mobo (or specifically, x570 TUF Plus) can do? I know average spec of a port is 2a, but two things are on my mind about that. One is that specs dont always give you the maximum sustained loads still within a safe level, and the other is that it sounds like each USB 2.0 header can handle two outputs, thus allowing more headroom for going over spec for a single port (unlikely to be 2x output, but can be say 1.5x).
Im currently looking at loading one upto 2.5a - 2.6a or so. Mainly for having clean wiring tho, as I can have most of the load come from the PSU directly with the header only pushing like 200ma or smth.
exotic zodiac
There should be an ipad around that price
def want an andriod
small meadow
def want an andriod
then samsung galaxy tab or something
exotic zodiac
daaaaaaaamn
calm mural
Probably no one has a answer, but does anyone know why my T-Mobile Alcatel LinkZone 2's time / duration resetting after 5 seconds in the admin panel? I've tried a couple things and none have worked.
It works normally as it should, but I'm a little concerned on why it's doing that
kindred yacht
Ok so someone help me get this. Does Xfinity require a plug in your house?
If you move to xfinity they'll install whatever they need to run the service, provided your address is listed in their registry for service areas
velvet hedge
If you move to xfinity they'll install whatever they need to run the service, pr...
Yeh I spoke w em today and I'm the first resident in my building so I'll have to pay a fee and they'll install the whole thing but worth.
Thanks 😌
Ended up going with the modem/router u guys recommended me and stuff as well so thanks to every1 that was there helping as well
nova pond
Also a VERY nais one
velvet hedge
Anyone ever had that issue where your modem just turns off. My modem will randomly just stop giving internet all together for 1m or 30m or am hour
Spoke to Frontier (dsl) and they said there doesn't seem to be any problems on their side and the hardware seems fine but it clearly isn't
small meadow
Spoke to Frontier (dsl) and they said there doesn't seem to be any problems on t...
Idk if this will apply to you but ive heard of people paying an extra 5 a month for a static ip instead of dynamic for their internet so the router doesn't have to reset every day for 30 mins to an hour
gilded agate
anybody know how to fix master chef single burner induction cooktop the screen keep on saying e1 when i try to change the tempature or wattage
velvet hedge
Idk if this will apply to you but ive heard of people paying an extra 5 a month ...
I'll check this out thx
small meadow
I'll check this out thx
Np :)
ruby vessel
then just steal
its wayyy easier
hide the tv under shirt and walk out of walmart with it
sturdy jolt
..
atomic tundra
bruh
magic temple
Man, you wouldn't believe what people would steal. (I worked at Walmart for a time.)
fierce hull
I once saw an opened box of Razer Kraken Tournament Editions lying around the floor next to the other boxes with the actual headphones not to be seen
In a Walmart
It was right next to 3 cameras and a sales rep person and somehow someone still stole it
magic temple
We had more than one case of somebody brazenly running out the door with a TV or computer.
fierce hull
Lmaoooo
rocky creek
if u just walk in and act confident u can take a bunch of stuff
fierce hull
Thinking of expensing $1-1.5k on a decent gaming laptop for when I’m away from home, what to get? Must be able to put windows 11 on it (dunno how that works with mobos from other companies)
little kernel
so my laptop dies very quickly i assumed it was the battery but could i be wrong? i do get very hot too
small meadow
so my laptop dies very quickly i assumed it was the battery but could i be wrong...
Most likely tiny battery, what laptop is it?
little kernel
HP ENVY x360 15-ee0002na
ive have it a while so might need to open it up and clean it and get a new battery
fierce hull
What cpu
little kernel
ryzen 5 or 7 i cant remember the exact one
fierce hull
Is your laptop nearby?
small meadow
It's supposed to have a 65w battery which is decent and should last a bit
little kernel
yeah it dies fairly quickly ive done alot of gaming on it before i got my pc
so thinking of just getting a new battery and cleaning the inside and maybe sorting the heating problems
small meadow
A new battery might be a good idea
Do you use it plugged in when the battery is charged?
Cuz that ruins it's lifespan
little kernel
i did yeah cause it helped performance, this was before i knew anything abouts computers and stuff ahah
small meadow
Ahh yeah i see
little kernel
so battery replacement it is then ahah
small meadow
Possibly yeah lol
little kernel
they arent too expensive tbf cheaper then a new laptop
its a pretty quick laptop tbf
autumn canyon
This is a weird question
Is there anything in particular I should be looking for in a USB to USB-C cable apart from USB 3.0 and durability?
It’s gonna be used mostly for charging devices if that makes a difference
wide vault
You don't need 3.0 for charging but if you ever want data bandwidth on occasion lol
small meadow
I'm pretty sure there's reliable ones on Amazon for like 40-50$ if you just search air duster or something
ruby vessel
cans of compressed air
they're cheap and work well
you got an air compressor?
you can make your own air cans, and refill them when they get low
i mean if you got a compressor its easy
you can also make bombs with it too
not all cans
but i bet you could add a air valve to the bottom of a aerosol can and just fill it like that
ye
nova pond
You have a vaccum cleaner?
small meadow
Rip
wide vault
yo yo y o it's me the e450 guy
I'm curious about the wattage of a KDTM404ESS Kitchenaid dishwasher, I can only seem to find a kw/h per year metric
I suppose I could just look for typical wattages for dishwashers of the approximate type and size
but if anyone would know for sure please @ me 🙏
burnt crater
Witch is better the Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII FORMULA ATX LGA1200 Motherboard or the Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ATX AM4 Motherboard
echo parrot
was already explained in general why you cant compare two different platforms
velvet hedge
So I switched from DSL to Cable and my upload speed is faster on cable but for some reason my ping is higher by about 50% any reason why?
I went from 20-22 ping to 33-42 ping
calm mural
Ik that windows 7 support ended last year, but is it normal if it says I'm not running a genuine copy?
uneven barn
@fluid spruce I can't hear mine cause it's next to pc
I'm running it at the lowest setting
rocky creek
just run on max but own servers
u wont hear anything over the REEEEEEEEEE of the serverfans
small meadow
I can't hear mode 1 over everything else
Over the 5 3080s kek
Can you now breathe gooder?
fair, let us know how it goes
uneven barn
I'm not being scientific about it but I can definitely notice a huge difference in dust buildup inside my pc
small meadow
I might not even have 1 working 3080 at this point
uneven barn
i confirmed it is the 3080
small meadow
Rip
uneven barn
put it in my main rig
didnt do the bios freeze thing so i got hopeful
crashed as soon as i tried to game on it
it's dead dead
small meadow
:(
magic temple
Ouch
chrome dust
rip
hallow belfry
I am looking at mice and I have settled on either the Rival 5 or Rival 3 but I can't decide which one. The Rival 5 is twice as much but it has more buttons and at the moment I do not know if I will use them, but if I buy the Rivals 3 then I will have to upgrade if I find that I will, but the Rival 3 is cheaper and they both get pretty much the same reviews, so I was wondering if anyone here has an opinion on this. Btw I am looking at the wired Rival 3
stiff compass
Wish you the best
rocky creek
I am looking at mice and I have settled on either the Rival 5 or Rival 3 but I c...
Don't buy those lol
hallow belfry
That was yesterday
minor crypt
anybody know where i can get circuit boards ordered and printed? price is no object as long as it's closeish to reasonable
already not paying tax on it so 
green jay
might also want to look at a dehumidifier if it's humid where you're at. I'm in western canada so it's not super humid usually but my breathing with my severe asthma has been so bad since our dehumidifier broke but now that we have a new one my breathing is significantly better.
Ahh I see
have an air purifier too and it's so good for my breathing, just brutal to keep cleaning it :/
oh yeah, cats would do it haha
is it your house? if so, might be worth screwing some OSB in the attic to minimize airflow or something
trying to stop dust from flying everywhere
that being said, osb is about as expensive as a pc rn 
sturdy kernel
hey, so i was trying to repurpose my old laptops camera into a usb webcam, i did all the wiring but it shows "the last usb device malfunctioned" and "device descriptor error" whenever i plug it in and i get no signal
any idea on whats wrong?
small meadow
hey, so i was trying to repurpose my old laptops camera into a usb webcam, i did...
How did you do this wiring?
sturdy kernel
How did you do this wiring?
i figured out which wire was ground with a simple continuity test between the ground wire and a grounding patch on the cameras pcb, found out power was the brown wire because it connected to the out of the voltage regulator, the two other twisted wires are the data pins according to the internet
i video also told me that if you get the malfunctioning error, swapping the data wires would fix it
but when i do that it doesnt even recognize the device anymore
small meadow
@sturdy kernel can you send a pic?
small meadow
The wiring
sturdy kernel
Btw I have another old laptop webcam that's very similar and has the exact same pinouts and it showed the same problem
sturdy kernel
Why the yellow wire not connected?
It's an extra apparently
small meadow
@sturdy kernel i would have just went the way of doing an ip webcam type setup and obs virtual camera but ¯_(ツ)_/¯ mb check if theres a different tutorial
small meadow
could you explain what ip webcam type things are <@!191276897227898880>
Ehh it like streams your webcam to a site then with obs you can capture it and use as virtual camera
small meadow
Ip webcam uses your phone but there's apps you can probs use for laptop too
sturdy kernel
no the laptop isnt working
i salvaged the webcam part of it
thats all
welp, ig im just gonna go out and buy a webcam then 😔
thanks for the help tho
small meadow
Ahh i see
calm mural
is anyone elses steam downloads really slow cus i have 1gbps internet and steam downloads at a wimpy 3mbps
ok actually im not complainign
it downloaded garrys mod in like 3 mins
small meadow
it downloaded garrys mod in like 3 mins
Was probs the steam server temporarily pooping itself
calm mural
yea probably lol
kindred yacht
It's Steam Summer Sale time so everyone and their mother is buying/downloading
ruby vessel
It's Steam Summer Sale time so everyone and their mother is buying/downloading
Anything good on it rn?
kindred yacht
anyone here good with network switches?
Yes, what's your issue?
fading remnant
Yes, what's your issue?
So I moved recently and realized that my new houses switch was only 10/100
So I unplugged it, and replaced it with the one in my old houses, which was up to 1 gig
But now none of the Ethernet ports are working
fading remnant
Aka smart vs dumb switch
i believe its smart
g510se
i tried to detect it on my pc with software but it wouldnt work
kindred yacht
Is that the prosafe or whatever software?
It probably needs to be reset and set up for the new network
fading remnant
Is that the prosafe or whatever software?
It probably needs to be reset and set ...
Ooh yeah
there's a little software reset button on the switch
Do I press that and then it'll work?
kindred yacht
You might need to hold the button for a few seconds but that should reset it to factory settings and let you set it up again
outer kestrel
Anybody know of any affordable, small DAC/amp combos? Like, really weak amp, I don't need much more power really
sturdy jolt
@outer kestrel for headphones, Meizu dongle is neat
It's good until you get into the 100$ range with like Schiit fulla and Zen dac and such
fading remnant
You might need to hold the button for a few seconds but that should reset it to ...
alright
outer kestrel
<@296720689468145664> for headphones, Meizu dongle is neat
Seems cool, but also very false/misleading
I'm taking a look
Might be worth it
sturdy jolt
Seems cool, but also very false/misleading
I have one.....
outer kestrel
Do you know any of the specifications?
sturdy jolt
It's also the one skiptrace always shills, but I disagree with him that it's as good as a schiit fulla or zen dac
What part of the specs?
outer kestrel
Just general specs like the power output or impedance support
Cuz I can guarantee you that those things are not pushing 600 ohm headphones
Even though that's what they claim on their Amazon page
sturdy jolt
Ofc they won't really drive 600ohm headphones, but they have no real listed specs on anything
the packaging it comes with is pretty smol without much documentation
outer kestrel
Do they actually have an amp?
outer kestrel
I will have to see
I wanna use the DAC my old phone has built in, but that phone is so toast
sturdy jolt
It's fairly cheap, and amazon does have a good return policy, might as well try