electronics

[west fable]

Current setup is kinda jank really

Budget is "as cheap as possible"

(I'm quoting myself)

[west fable]

To put it into bullet points:

• needs to be plug and play after setup, and can be put away easily
• would be used to stream to zoom, but trying to get them to switch to YouTube
• needs to have an adjustable picture in picture
• needs to be relatively cheap

[warped yew]

Bro I’m not reading all that

[pulsar jacinth]

If you can afford it, yes.
If you're patient, they're always cheaper later on

Those reviews look bad tho

[tepid compass]

I did the F2

[calm mural]

Having issues with my keyboard, I rely on my windows key a lot to switch from tab to tab. But for some reason it doesn't seem to work. I tried to reset my PC a couple times, and followed some things this source gave me : https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-key-not-working/0c796f79-0aa8-466e-ab44-802005d1791b

Still haven't gotten it to work. I'm using a HAVIT KB487L TKL keyboard, if that helps at all, does anyone have any other ideas on how to turn it back on? Or any alternatives to switching tabs quickly.

[calm mural]

Got this phone and this is a 200MP photo so you have to click to see it

I am not rich I bought it on 24 month carrier instalments

[pliant adder]

Lol

[kindred yacht]

While it isn't an official standard from the TIA, there is still a difference. You can think of 6e as falling between 6 and 6a.
Some manufacturers might take advantage of the fact that 6e isn't a standard and produce subpar quality cables, but that's rare.

[pliant adder]

So you're saying it supports both 1 and 10gbps but at different distances than the ones of 6 & 6a

[kindred yacht]

The differences are mostly physical layer.

There's better performance at extreme distances due to the higher operating frequency and improved shielding

As such 6e is better suited for datacenter environments compared to 6

[pliant adder]

I have these hdmi ethernet extenders and I've only tested them with a 5e cable, so 1Gbps which is way less than what is required for fhd 60hz to actually run at 60 frames
Will 6e (10~20m) help with the low framerate? They mention 6e so I guess 10Gbps is supported on these devices...

Is this the correct way to measure the required bandwidth for a video connection?
vRes × hRes × refreshRate × bit/rgb

Bit/rgb as 8bit per color in each pixel, or 10 for hdr (so either 24 or 30bit per pixel)

[kindred yacht]

It does claim in those "features" that it's 10.2Gbps

[chrome dust]

I got a tv box that.. lacks a power button

To reset it I need to unplug lmao

[kindred yacht]

For an uncompressed video signal that should be correct, but you might also need to account for other features such as Freesync and DSC.

[pliant adder]

10.2 as the hdmi 1.4 standard ig

[pliant adder]

Same for a philps TV I have with no remote 😅

[chrome dust]

I don't like tv boxes that lack power button

[kindred yacht]

Same, no idea why they stopped putting buttons. I can control my TV with my phone... if it's on already. But there's no button to turn it on, so if I lose the remote I can't use my TV at all.

[chrome dust]

Nor ones that runs on android with just a skin slapped on top

I prefer android tv more than normal android

Because less app choice for tv

Or more specifically made for tv

[kindred yacht]

It's rather amusing installing 3dmark on my TV and seeing it get less than 1 frame per second

[pliant adder]

How much would those features add up to in gbps, less than 1 probably...?

Oh I just discovered there's furmark2
2
What
Since when

[kindred yacht]

#overclocking message

Because the original didn't kill enough GPUs

[pliant adder]

Oh so it's fairly new

Is it any better in stress/death testing?

I saw some things like vram tests which are cool

I cannot test the HD baseT extenders because I just have 30 ethernet cables all of them cat 5e

Then I have fiber

But this thing obviously doesn't

[kindred yacht]

It varies wildly, you can calculate with DSC since it's just a compression algorithm but freesync/gsync you should just account for an extra 1gbps at least

[pliant adder]

Ok, so 2160p @60hz should be 12gbps raw with sdr

Ok, can't run 4k60hz anyways with these extenders

Cause it's 1.4

[kindred yacht]

Not unless all devices support DSC compression

With HDMI 1.4 the answer to "does it support DSC" is probably no

[pliant adder]

I have no idea and the current TV is 1080p60, but if I were to get a 4k one I'd like to run it at least @60hz

[kindred yacht]

You could run 4k60 at 4:2:0 but it'll look like garbage

[pliant adder]

https://images.app.goo.gl/GjcJGr2XWegZzYHQA

Are these 4 all the existing combinations of the compression thing?

[kindred yacht]

No DSC operates differently

It actually compresses the stream of data so it appears to run at 4:4:4

[pliant adder]

Yeah, i was just asking if the singular frame compressions, the ones with 4:X:X are just those 4, but I guess those are all

[kindred yacht]

Oh, yeah those are the 4 chroma sampling methods but PCs only support the first 3

[pliant adder]

I guess one of these is being used when I run the extenders with 5e, since the pic looks slightly blurred in some parts

I get almost the same quality as running windows remote desktop over my local cat5e network

[kindred yacht]

That's very likely happening yes, since

[pliant adder]

Probably remote desktop does the extender job but into the pc that is being remoted to

Does all the compression cause significant latency?

[kindred yacht]

No but there are compression artifacts

Which is why everyone is so mad that all the new OLED monitors only have DP 1.4

[pliant adder]

I'd probably be mad too if I had to spend 600 and more bucks on a display with limited capabilities

[kindred yacht]

Yeah, hey, this $800 OLED monitor has 4k 240Hz, but you can only use it at that if you sacrifice some image quality which is super noticeable to many people on an OLED panel

All they had to do was put DP 2.0 or 2.1 ports and the problem goes away (for AMD 7000 users )

[pliant adder]

Yep, you definitely notice the worse pic quality if you care so much about the better color range and spend that much money

[kindred yacht]

I say for AMD users because Nvidia didn't see fit to include more than DP 1.4 ports even on their "$1600" GPU

So we're at a weird point where you need the XTX to support 4k240 without compression but only the 4090 has any hope of hitting that at reasonable quality settings

[pliant adder]

I feel like I'll stay with AMD for a while til Nvidia makes some changes

Unless I go crazy with the drivers

6950xt: price ranges from 550 to 600
4090: well over 1600, so 3 times as much
But where's my 3x performance?

[kindred yacht]

It's there, you just have to cherry pick specific games, turn on ray tracing, and use DLSS compared to native on AMD

[pliant adder]

Aliexpress really saves me when buying tech stuff
Cat7 20m is just €10 compared to €20 on Amazon

[kindred yacht]

Beware, cat7 is really stiff

You can't bend it nearly as much as 6 or lower

[pliant adder]

Is there a reason why we don't have more flat ethernet cables if they work just as well as round ones? Or do they not

[kindred yacht]

In short runs they're fine but in longer runs you can get crosstalk and other issues

[pliant adder]

Will the cat7 stiffness be about the same as 6a?

[kindred yacht]

Stiffer

[pliant adder]

Mmmh

I already find 6a quite difficult to route in certain places so I guess I'll just get another 6 or 6a

[green stream]

it's all you really need for home use

[kindred yacht]

Right, you probably don't have a 100 gig nic on anything you own

[pliant adder]

Yeah, considering that even in the future I won't get 1gbps, it's only for the hdmi over ethernet thing

[calm mural]

Update: I can click my windows key.. But now I can't type in the windows search bar, or the settings app but not even minecraft? Nor my Xbox app, but I can type in my web browser, discord, command prompt, etc.

Again; Any ideas?

[kindred yacht]

I had a keyboard die on me recently. It froze up and didn't detect any key presses, and when I plugged in another keyboard every time I pressed a key it would think I was taking a screenshot.
So what I'm saying is try unplugging the old keyboard and try a different one, it could be on its way out.

[calm mural]

But it works fine on other programs like Roblox or Opera GX?

[sturdy jolt]

if you do something like this, do all of the keys show up?
https://keyboard-tester.com/

[sturdy jolt]

it might be possible its some kind of windows language problem, for example, sometimes I accidentally switch to chinese and programs that don't support those characters just show nothing when I press keys

[calm mural]

Yep, except F3 which I still know works because it brings me to a search.

[calm mural]

I only have Russian and English on here, if it was on Russian then I would be using my Russian keyboard, but interesting.

It would also show on the bottom right

[sturdy jolt]

Looks like minecraft chat only supports these characters for example, if the windows input method setting was set to russian for some reason, minecraft would show nothing if you tried to type, so this might be something to look deeper into

[calm mural]

I don't think my PC is on russian

[sturdy jolt]

Not the display language

the input language

[calm mural]

Well how would I change it then so it inputs Latin?

[sturdy jolt]

You can try overriding it here

[calm mural]

I can't access my settings app

Well, I can't type on it at least

What would be my trajectory?

Wait nvm

And again, I can't type in settings, or my windows search bar.

[sturdy jolt]

actually can you just check on the task bar the keyboard layout selected here

should be able to access it with just mouse

[calm mural]

I'm on Windows 10

[sturdy jolt]

hm

[calm mural]

I can only access it after I've done the shortcut (Win + Space key)

[sturdy jolt]

I can't remember where it was on w10

[calm mural]

Or maybe I'm wrong

Alt+Shift

[sturdy jolt]

default keybind to switch keyboard method was alt+shift iirc, try pressing that rq

[calm mural]

That doesn't work anymore for some reason either?

I think Windows might just be having some issues, tbh

[sturdy jolt]

it might've changed to win+space at some point

[calm mural]

Neither work

[green stream]

I thought it was the same for 10. my keybinds for keyboard switching are win+space and shift+caps for method

[sturdy jolt]

I remember alt-shift, but I've been on w11 for a while now

[calm mural]

I don't know if maybe I messed something up while trying to fix the fact that I couldn't click my Windows key yesterday?

Everything was fine yesterday except for my Windows key problem, and now that the Windows key is fixed, typing is limited for me.

[sturdy jolt]

lemme try downloading the windows russian and using it in minecraft and check if the symptoms are the same

[calm mural]

It.. Should be the same, Minecraft supports Russian.

[sturdy jolt]

Minecraft definitely didn't support chinese inputs when I checked a moment ago

[calm mural]

But again, I'm not trying to specifically fix Minecraft, I'm trying to fix Windows

[sturdy jolt]

even though the display language can be set to chinese

[calm mural]

I don't normally use Russian although

[sturdy jolt]

Just checked, minecraft does support russian input, not the problem

its probably just a problem unique to pinyin inputs

[calm mural]

Again, I am trying to fix Windows

Not Minecraft in specific

It would be nice if I could play Minecraft, but Minecraft isn't the problem

[sturdy jolt]

Matching symptoms can help with figuring out what the problem is

[calm mural]

But Windows supports all keyboard that it offers.. And I can't type in my search bar, or settings.

[calm mural]

So.. Any other ideas?

[west fable]

That is the shortcut I use on both 10 and 11

[calm mural]

👍

[west fable]

With your search bar or settings not working however, it is probably an issue with your windows install?

You could always try a sfc /scannow

[calm mural]

It says I'm not the owner of this device..?

[sturdy jolt]

btw, can you use the on-screen keyboard? win11 keybind is windows+ctrl+o

[west fable]

Need to run it as administrator

[sturdy jolt]

need to run as administrator mode

[calm mural]

No

[calm mural]

How do I open up command prompt as admin again?

[sturdy jolt]

You should be able to enable it by clicking accessibility->keyboard->on screen keyboard in settings

[calm mural]

It opened, it just wont let me type.

[sturdy jolt]

click the keyboard

[calm mural]

I can click as many keys as I want

No output in the search bar

[west fable]

Win r "CMD" (right) ctr shift enter

[sturdy jolt]

right click command prompt and run as administrator

[calm mural]

Working on it

Found this

But it still hasn't fixed my issue, should I reset my PC?

[sturdy jolt]

can also do

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth```

[calm mural]

Haven't seen it do any changes.

I'm gonna reset my PC and see what happens

Still nothing, this is getting on my nerves.

[west fable]

Reinstall* reset does little to nothing

If you have another computer, you could test to see if it's working properly on that

But considering that sfc had found corrupted files, your windows install might be a bit corrupted

[calm mural]

It isn't a new computer, if thats what you are thinking.

[calm mural]

Does that mean I have to get a new version of Windows?

[west fable]

You can stay on windows 10 if you wish

Though it may be more convenient to go to windows 11

[calm mural]

My PC can't run Windows 11 it says

[west fable]

Since windows 10 ends général availability in 2025

Hmm

What specs

[calm mural]

Oh dear

[calm mural]

i3-9100F

oops didnt mean to finish

GTX 1060 6GB

[west fable]

I think 9th gen should support windows 11

[calm mural]

16 GB DDR4 RAM

1 TB SSD

[calm mural]

I don't plan on moving on to Windows 11 anytime soon, maybe when I finish my next PC then sure.

[west fable]

Yeah your cpu supports windows 11

[calm mural]

I say then because I know that I want to make the most out of this current PC before I hand it down to my brother.

[west fable]

There currently isn't many downsides of upgrading to 11; the downsides are to not upgrade, because that would mean you have to update it when 10 loses support in 1 year

Or maybe 2 years? I forget if it ends in the start or end of 2025

[warped yew]

"I’m not upgrading to Windows 11 because I was told it's bad" just shut up 💀

[calm mural]

?

[calm mural]

Dang, ok

When it completely loses support I'll have to buy my brother that OS as well

[west fable]

No need to buy

Same key as Windows 10

[calm mural]

Oh? Interesting

[west fable]

microsoft wants to keep you on windows more than they want you to pay for windows

[calm mural]

Update: Everything works now, I rebooted my pc completely

[calm mural]

I'm surprised

[west fable]

Not really surprising, they make more money from telemetry than you buying their license

[calm mural]

Fair enough

[west fable]

System integrators practically get their licenses for free

[granite haven]

I got a MacBook Air 2020 now when I was trying to get it charged with normal usb type c it was looping I just got the charger in and now it boots to just the Apple logo and I mean the keyboard works still because the caps lock turns on when pressed is there anyway to force it to boot through?

[pliant adder]

Ok, now I have to chose between a CAT6 or 6a. Any differences if I'm running 20m of cable? That should allow for 10gig on both categories, right?

I'm thinking about buying two 10m cat6 or 6a and connecting two ends together with a connector, since I may need to add a switch in the middle of the run for other projects. Will the 10gig get compromised with the connector in between?

[green stream]

You mean its not booting? Can you get into recovery mode?

[granite haven]

I don’t think it can go into recovery mode what buttons do I need to press

It’s not getting passed the appple logo it just boots to that

[green stream]

They changed it recently so Im not 100% sure. Used to be cmd+r when booting now I think you just hold the power button until you see a options button from what I am seeing online

[granite haven]

So hold it even if it turns off?

[granite haven]

I’m not even getting to that the picture I posted is all that pops up

[green stream]

the apple logo is what comes up when it tries to boot the main drive. this menu is accessible before that

unless they changed something recently i believe you can access recovery without a drive installed

[granite haven]

I’m telling you it’s only booting to that I can’t get nothing else to work should I try with a keyboard plugged in?

[green stream]

you don't boot the computer, you completely turn it off then turn it on by holding the power button and continue to hold the power button until you see such screen

[granite haven]

Ok

[green stream]

there is also this if even that doesn't work

[granite haven]

im gonna give it time on charger im also plugging in a normal usb type c charger

[west fable]

dual bios except instead of bios it's dual os frfr

[pliant adder]

I don't know if my phone has this problem where I can't get the update if I'm outside the intended use country. Not sure what they mean by that but I feel like that has something to do with the default phone carrier...?

s21, April and I still don't have a14 + one ui6.
Other people with s21+ got it last month if not earlier
I'm in Italy and I bought this phone refurbished from an Italian store. I have no idea why I haven't got any updates yet

[chrome dust]

Updates are either slow or fast no matter what phone you have as far as I have owned android phones

I had to manually check for updates to get latest update on my S21 FE after it has come out for a week

Since my phone didn't notify me

I'm on one ui 6 with android 14 here

[pliant adder]

I always check manually, guess I'll try with smart switch on my pc

[chrome dust]

Worth a try

My s21 fe is a used phone kek

Still haven't fixed back cover glue problem

I got it 5 weeks ago I believe

[pliant adder]

I just checked updates via smart switch on my pc and there's none

noice

[chrome dust]

f

[kindred yacht]

You can always download and flash it yourself if the update exists for your exact model/original carrier. I think the Samsung flash tool still works but it's been a few years since I've used it. It doesn't trip Knox if you use official images.

[pliant adder]

This phone shouldn't have a "default/original" carrier. How can I check that?

[pliant adder]

How safe is it?

Any risk in losing data?

[kindred yacht]

Usually it's tied to the model number. For example, a Tmo phone might have a model number of SM253-GSV and a Verizon phone would be SM253-SG (not real models just example)

[kindred yacht]

It's an official Samsung tool.
You should be able to tell it to leave the user data partition alone so it only affects the system.

[pliant adder]

Mine is just sm g991u, so I guess no carrier

Should I wait a bit more for ufficial update release to play it safe?

Idk if updating it with the tool is a 1:1 replica of a normal android update

[kindred yacht]

Android updates are usually distributed through your carrier sometime between 0 months, 6 months, and never

I had an old LG phone that never got the official last android OS edition it supported because Verizon decided not to distribute it

And if course I couldn't install it myself because Verizon bootloader locks are not easy to bypass

Even on phones that are supposed to be unlocked and every other carrier is unlocked

[kindred yacht]

According to the site I get Samsung updates from that model is only distributed in the US to T Mobile, Sprint, Comcast, and Verizon

[pliant adder]

So you're saying it should be a US phone designed to get its updates in the US when using those carriers?

[kindred yacht]

Yes

[pliant adder]

So I will never see the update come out on its own
Is it still possible to update it to android 14 with the tool or will there be anything else stopping me?

[kindred yacht]

Maybe not never, it depends on your carrier and if they have an agreement with the original carrier

I can find the original carrier with that version number, hang on

Looks like an exact match for all the possible carriers so it's probably the same version for all, just with different carrier bloat apps

[pliant adder]

So what does that mean?

[kindred yacht]

Any image intended for that device should in theory work, it'll just include different carrier apps

[pliant adder]

If it had something to do with my current carrier, will changing my Sim card for a while allow me to get the update?

[pliant adder]

I currently don't have carrier apps
But I'd like it to stay that way, no horrible boot screens with the carrier logo or other bloatware

[kindred yacht]

I can grab the one that's for devices sold without a carrier so there should have no carrier apps

[pliant adder]

Okk

[pliant adder]

My mother has a s21+ and got the update in late February. Idk if things are different between these two models but she has a different more popular carrier here in Italy.
Maybe if I try using that other Sim I can get it to work?

Oh wait
If I remove the Sim will I get any updates at all?

[kindred yacht]

All of that depends on the carriers in question

I don't know their internal workings and policies

Some carriers will tie a sim to an imei and if there's a mismatch it rejects service

Others don't care

[pliant adder]

Is there a list of samsung s21 codenames with their corresponding country or default carrier?

[kindred yacht]

sammobile.com has search functions for that

[pliant adder]

Ok, thanks for all the info

I don't understand why an update has to be so difficult to get if you don't cover every single smallest system requirement

[kindred yacht]

Make sure to backup everything just in case, and have the adb drivers installed
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s21/firmware/SM-G991U/DSA/download/G991USQSAFXC2/1818795/
https://dl2018.sammobile.com/Odin.zip

[pliant adder]

Ok,
I noticed there's an option for backup in smart switch. Will that create a copy that can be deployed back to get everything to how it was previously?
Or is it like just a personal data backup and requires configuring the phone again *if something goes wrong

I feel like all of these update problems and us phone are releated to other problems like Samsung pass & personal area not being available since I configured the phone

[chrome dust]

it's just a backup

not full system backup

[pliant adder]

What ethernet cable requirements are there to run poe over about 5m of cable?

[west fable]

5 meters is barely anything, cat5e is fine

If it's in an enclosed place, just make sure the wire can handle warm

Most normal patch cables are rated for like 60c

Only like really bottom of barrel you would find any that is rated for lower

[odd root]

Looking for a good laptop for about 1500 dollars. For descent specs and cooling and power. If anyone's got good brands please tell me

[pliant adder]

I read online that a usb c to rj45 adapter can be used to set up a wired connection using your phones mobile data (samsung device) and I guess a router on the other side of the cable. Does it really work that way too?

[kindred yacht]

Theoretically yes

Make sure your phone supports USB 3.0, as well as the adapter you use

[west fable]

Might be better to just directly tether to a pc
If you want multiple clients, glinet's portable router/ap combos can take a phone tethering as a source

And they're very cheap and built well

Very cheap as in good value

[west fable]

This is a fork of openwrt

[pliant adder]

That's interesting, I'll think about that too if I ever need it.
I guess any regular c to rj45 allows setting up your phone as the main router (output) as well as use etherent to get internet connection on the phone (as an input)

Any usb 3.0 adapter will do the job right? I'm not going to use it much rn, so probably a €5 adapter from aliexpress is good enough

[kindred yacht]

Yep

[west fable]

What is your use exactly

[pliant adder]

I usually do some testing when I need to wire ethernet ports and checking cable speed limitations on my home network when I rearrange the devices connected to ethernet

And it'd be really helpful to use just my phone to test the wired connection

Then I felt like I would find a good use of the adapter to set up temporary routers using phones mobile data

[west fable]

Hmm yeah then that would probably be fine? Make sure you have a crossover cable if your adapter isn't gigabit though

also btw we have a #networks-security-and-home-servers channel that you coul have asked in as well now lmfao

[pliant adder]

Ok, I never deal with gigabit speeds here so...

[pliant adder]

Wha
I never saw that

Why is it hidden form my list of channels

[kindred yacht]

Every gigabit or higher port is auto duplexing, crossover cables are obsolete

[west fable]

the reason why i say you need a gigabit adapter is because iirc the standard for automatic midix or smth

yeah

[kindred yacht]

Many 100mb ports are also auto

[west fable]

hmm

[pliant adder]

Okok thanks for all the info
I have to go now

Bye

[west fable]

bye

[west fable]

yeah i was telling them go look for gigabit since it isnt 100% that there would be that function on the under gigabit adapters

[kindred yacht]

'tis new

[west fable]

Digital or analog mixer for 12 channel input and fairly close to the instruments and singers (4 meters away approximately)?
The pros are basically just digital has remote control with an app, and analog is half the price

[green stream]

you mean like for studio recording?

[west fable]

Live music

[green stream]

yeah analog is more cost effective. Personally I'd probably just do analog since it's easy to learn and usually has enough control and effects to be usable. digital can be more complicated to learn and train people on because of the software aspect

digital is pretty standard in many places now though

[west fable]

hmm alright

[pliant adder]

Now that I think about it I feel like samsung pass foesnt work on my s21 because it's a US model outside of the states and without a US carrier

Could it be?

Is there a way to flash the phone to a non usa software version? Or is it linked to the firmware/rom and stuff?

[kindred yacht]

You usually can't cross flash carriers because they'll use slightly different models. It might not power on after you flash.
If it's the exact same model as the one you intend to flash to, then it should be ok.

[west fable]

Not a recommendation question, just a curiosity question
If cost was no object, would you rather have a central vacuum, or would you rather have a Dyson cordless vacuum

[small meadow]

Central? Is that the one where you brush it into a whole in the floor?

If so cordless hoover anyday that sounds like a fat pain

[warped yew]

tbh never heard of a Central

there's more (and better) dupes that do more than a Dyson for cheaper. Dyson is the Apple of vacuums and idc how steep the hill I die on is while making this statement

[west fable]

Yeah I meant more of the stick vacuum type

My brain wasn't able to compute lmao

[small meadow]

The stick hooves are chefs kiss, plus no wholes in your skirting or whatever idk if NA houses have skirtings i assume they do

[warped yew]

We do. It's called "base molding" in America

[runic timber]

Wtf is central

[warped yew]

lol

[runic timber]

Is this like the hidden capital of the underworld or sum 💩

[warped yew]

just get a Dyson dupe offbrand tbh

[runic timber]

Why even dupe

Just fbmp a Dyson v8

[warped yew]

I actually hate the word "dupe" but that's the word we're using now

[runic timber]

Tf was that autocorrect google

What is a dysen

Who dysens

[warped yew]

We had a V8 until we got a V12(? maybe it's a V11) Now we have the V8 at our office lol

[runic timber]

You wouldn't believe it but $40 aldi clone #7 from last year do be the dyson killer

(There's some truth to this but also bleh)

V8's are good

Just remember to buy a replacement battery after a few years

[warped yew]

I knew that there were off-brands that are killing Dyson for a third of the price but damb I didn't know that there were $40 killers 💀

[runic timber]

There always is in the supermarket space

Ask me what one is I don't have a name cos I have a Dyson

We regularly get sales from Aldi here where they flog off promotional items for dumb cheap to get you to shop in their store

[warped yew]

Bro we have "smart vacuums" now that connect to your Wi-Fi (I don't know what this is for tbh but I know it's a thing on some vacuums)

[runic timber]

And very often

VERY OFTEN

Are they really good

[runic timber]

Alexa, play rick roll from my vacuum

[warped yew]

bruh

[runic timber]

(who needs these features)

[warped yew]

Just give me a cordless vacuum that lets me stand it up for when I'm not using it

bruh

[runic timber]

Just give me cordless

[warped yew]

(these exist but I forgot what brand it's from and it's like $120)

[runic timber]

It could be a dog taped to a stick idc

As long as it's cordless

[warped yew]

Dog tape?

We're learning international variants of English today lol

[runic timber]

Dog

Like

Dog

dog

Taped to a stick and pushed around

[warped yew]

DOG

[runic timber]

My dyson got dat dawg in 'im

[thorn gulch]

In wall vacuum. Just have a bunch of air duct outlets scattered through the building walls like wall outlets. Can plug in a tube and suck the floor.

[warped yew]

SUCC THE FLOOR

(aka my dogs for some reason)

[night lotus]

[frail nimbus]

PRO B650M-A WIFI and ryzen 5 7600x should i buy them or wait next year and any help pls asap

[small meadow]

Depends how desperate you are to upgrade

[small meadow]

This looks so cool
https://youtu.be/1KEtxTQUzxY

[pliant adder]

Will a m2 a+e key device/dongle/adapter... work on a m2 e key slot?
Looks like the a+e fits but not sure if the pinout is the same or if for any reason the device won't work at all

[west fable]

a: 2 of PCIe ×1, USB 2.0, I2C and DP ×4
e: 2 of PCIe ×1, USB 2.0, I2C, SDIO, UART, PCM and CNVi

unless you need the displayport x4, then it should work the same?

though realistically

if the device has the keying for both, then it supports both
kinda like how sata m.2 ssds have b and m key, but can work in both m key or b key slots

though you probably only want to use the b key for sata ssds since m key supports nvme

[kindred yacht]

Unless the slot doesn't support sata like mine 🙃

[west fable]

☠️

tfw not following the standard

[kindred yacht]

I was rather steamed when I figured that out. Everything else about this motherboard is fantastic except that one flaw. They did both M.2 slots off the CPU lanes since Zen 4 has 24 lanes usable, but no sata support from CPU.

[pliant adder]

I was thinking about buying an adapter for one of my Dell wyse 3040 mini to expand storage using SD cards.
It has an internal e key m2 with sdio interface and I checked online and apparently an SD is the only way to get additional storage to work (not flawlessly). Instead of making my own adapter (as suggested by someone) I wanted to buy a cheap one, they just had a+e so I wasn't sure if it'd work

[west fable]

One in image looks like e key

It says it uses sdio which is only supported on e key

Try to see what interface? Your a+e one uses

[pliant adder]

I'm looking at repairing a z370 motherboard that doesn't power on. I've written some stuff in #cpus-mobo-and-memory about it, and I'm assuming some compoennt, maybe an ic or anything other that may not show visible signs of damage died.
I've always been curious on how nwr checks basically everything about a board from components to voltages, resistances,... using some program that I don't know. Example https://youtu.be/lblWSta8iIk?si=NDTUY19CfO-A8QEK#t=1m30s
If a scheme of the motherboard is available I could start looking for the problem, as far as this is like an open source thing and doesn't cost a kidney.

[pliant adder]

I found the program, it's boardview. Almost all motherboards schematics are available, some of them cost few bucks

[dusky bane]

Yea boardview is great

Its come in handy so many times for me

I still need to fix my extreme11 boards 😩

[oblique gazelle]

what are some non apple phones worth considering? my brother is looking to replace his failing s23

[runic timber]

Trading in to samsung if it's not a noticeable issue and it's very very clean he could get a serious refund value for that s23

And go to s24

[oblique gazelle]

good idea

[chrome dust]

I'd personally do pixel if he's ok with switching

The 8A is a very compelling phone

[kindred yacht]

Price is a bit ehhhh

$500 when the regular 8 is often on sale for $600

[runic timber]

Make triple sure it's spotless and in as good of a condition as possible

[chrome dust]

It's like $399 rn actually

iirc

[runic timber]

The less likely they are to notice a problem, very much a high chance they get the good value

Clean it up

Make it look brand new

factory reset

Or yeah try a pixel or refurbished apple

[pliant adder]

How's a s23 already failing?

[weary slate]

More than likely user error

[fluid spruce]

Even my S20 FE is stilll holding up from user abuse

[kindred yacht]

Drop it enough and things like antennas will shake loose

[fluid spruce]

Dropped it a few times on concrete, fell down the stairs a few times

it doing fine

Me on the other hand? I'm not doing fine, I got some loose screws

[weary slate]

User error on the software side I mean

android doesn't do well when its bloated and storage is approaching full.

[fluid spruce]

Dude probably has Samsung bloatware all running at the same time

Bixby anyone?

[weary slate]

I hate opening bixby on my tablet

why the hell does the power button bring up bixby instead of powering off my tablet e.e

[fluid spruce]

Can't you disable that?

[weary slate]

Probably

I only use it for movies in bed and stuff though so I'm lazy.

[fluid spruce]

I have an ipad now that is used for second display

it's been subjected to lesser potential

[oblique gazelle]

Hes saying it's overheating

My s23 that I've had to have dropped hundreds of times is perfectly fine

Literally identical to the day I got it, including aesthetically

This things a tank

[fluid spruce]

Does he have a ridiculously insulated case on it?

[oblique gazelle]

I told him to try w/o the case

[fluid spruce]

Like one of those goofy asf otterbox

[oblique gazelle]

He did not respond to me

[fluid spruce]

I do like the slimmer otterbox cases tho

But i always buy spigen or ringke

[oblique gazelle]

I've had two cases for my s23

Both under $15 on amazon

Again I've dropped my phone hundreds of times and it's fine

[fluid spruce]

Yea spigen and ringke cases are about $10-$15

[oblique gazelle]

I'm one clumsy mf

[fluid spruce]

Unless you buy their clear cases

I think those are $20-$30

[chrome dust]

I used spigen

They're nice

[fluid spruce]

My case is from Theo because my S20 FE is from Theo 😂

I bought it off of him after mine got stolen in nov 2022

Tragic

This is what happens when you try to do an event for your university

[chrome dust]

Now I use whatever this clear case the last owner had

[weary slate]

When in doubt, factory reset

[chrome dust]

Once I got S21 FE

It's not much but I hate bulky cases

I like holding the phone with a feeling close to og

[fluid spruce]

I need to glue the shell around my case lol

[kindred yacht]

Should get one of those water cooled cases

[chrome dust]

But don't wanna scratch it up

[fluid spruce]

You want it raw

[chrome dust]

I'd actually run caseless if it weren't for the damage and wear lol

[weary slate]

I don't put a case on my phone

[fluid spruce]

I do because I don't like anything being dirty

I leave the peels on everything

Clean out my PC every week

[pliant adder]

Thats like cortana, nobody uses it

[pliant adder]

Same until they come off on their own

[fluid spruce]

That's the only thing that is bad about the Meshroom S... so much dust and cat hair gets inside

I have an air purifier on blast, but not enough to keep all of it out

[pliant adder]

Well your pc also kind of acts like one if it has enough airflow

[fluid spruce]

it's got plenty haha

I was just looking at it yesterday and saw a nice film of cat hair on it in just under a week

[pliant adder]

Are there any decent thin screen protectors for a samsung s21 that don't interfere with the fingerprint scanner too much? I need anything that can protect the screen from scratches, I'm not looking at a drop resistant protector or anything like that.
The plastic ones that most phones come preapplied with would be fine, I don't like glass protectors as most shatter after a few days of use

Do you have any recommendations for good oleophobic screen coatings products I could buy for cheap?

My phone's coating is non existent...

[pulsar jacinth]

Anyone know a good keyboard & mouse to use with a usbc tablet?

I already bought a case and just want the keyboard now

[turbid sage]

Can someone recommend a good laptop for a college student that's not a macbook? Something that runs windows budget is 750$

[night lotus]

@chrome dust your duty calls

[west fable]

just word processing? or is there any specific programs that you need to run

with specific hardware requirements

[chrome dust]

Does your usage involve just text processing or anything more?

[pulsar jacinth]

Thinkpads usually work btw, its recommended to factory reset the thing to delete all the lenovo bloatware

500$ gets you a refurbished, Touchscreen 14in laptop, fits well for me at least

[west fable]

install ubuntu on it

frfr

[pulsar jacinth]

oh and dont get a matte screen

my eyes still regret my purchase

[west fable]

Depends

Matte is useful for using in places where you might have a bit of sun

Otherwise, yeah

[runic timber]

I actually prefer matte

Gloss is annoying as piss when there's literally anything with light in the vicinity

[fluid spruce]

Matte goodge

[green stream]

Ngl I find matte more difficult to see in direct sunlight

With glossy you can just put a cover around it and your fine but on matte it just spreads the glare across the screen at every angle unless it is in a dark room. Learned that the hard way after accidentally getting a matte screen protector for one of my monitors

[west fable]

Well, yeah, direct sunlight you can't really see for either

[kindred yacht]

You might say it's a polarizing topic

... I'll see myself out

[west fable]

https://tenor.com/view/hitman-clap-epic-sir-gif-13862270

expect to see 47 later

[pulsar jacinth]

anyone know when's a goodtime to update my 1660S?

[west fable]

i'd say at 2pm on a saturday

[pulsar jacinth]

Damn. I got work

Maybe next year

[west fable]

[west fable]

actual answer is when you arent able to run the games you want to (or cant run them at the settings you want to) basically

[pulsar jacinth]

I can technically run my games, they just only run on low settings based on the games I play (cyberpunk, somehow gtaV, street fighter etc.)

[warped yew]

It's not even a 1-hour job lol wym

[pulsar jacinth]

Actually 2 hours

[west fable]

?

What are you doing for 2 hours

Do you have hard line custom loop?

I can build an entire PC in an hour

[warped yew]

2 hours for a GPU swap is crazy

[west fable]

Fr

Well, I guess if you also bundle in PC cleaning

Maybe that can take 2 hours

But just a GPU swap has never taken anyone 2 hours

[warped yew]

30 minutes for me lol

[kindred yacht]

Including DDU and reinstall

[pulsar jacinth]

dude I havent even touched my gpu yet

Im talking like I didnt buy a prebuild 6 years ago

[warped yew]

Yep

[warped yew]

Skill issue

[broken crown]

Fr

[old vapor]

2 hours for a GPU swap?

If you include twiddling your thumbs, scrolling on TikTok for an hour and petting your cat then yeah

[oak drum]

the 30-45€ "airpods pros" on ebay are all fake right

theyre really suspicious listings and when i message the sellers the answer is very ambigious

They said to me "2x Bluetooth Earbud"

[green stream]

Yeah that sounds fake

My rule of thumb is if it looks too good to be true, it probably is

[oak drum]

I heard the Hyperx (cloud 2s?) are good budget headphones

I forgot the name, I think those are the ones im thinking of

[green stream]

they are pretty old at this point but still recommended by some. At that price though I'd probably just go with the pc38x since they are on sale

[oak drum]

Oh?

The epos pc38xs?

What Retailer?

[west fable]

Yellow version on drop ig

[green stream]

Yeah the regular version, 119usd right now and from what i understand it is quite a bit better

[west fable]

Open back vs closed back though

[green stream]

True

[warped yew]

Closed backs only if it has ANC tbh

"But ANC just makes you feel lonely and makes everything overly quiet" yeah I need that

[west fable]

Lmfao

[west fable]

Nah, ANC is just a patchwork solution for something that can be done more effectively; passive noise isolation
Headphones with good enough noise isolation doesn't need ANC

[warped yew]

Yeah. I need it to be quieter

[west fable]

But having pass through is good for those so you can hear without taking them off

[warped yew]

Regular closed-backs are pointless compared to ANC and open-backs to me

[green stream]

I don't like the noise anc introduces but I will say anc has fixed a lot of my issues with cabin pressure feel and such on certain devices like the airpods pro and max

[pulsar jacinth]

I absolutely hated the anc I had with Bose Quietcomfort stuff, too much pressure and I heard the effects it made

I actually had basic Sony headphones over ears that covered sound pretty well. Only issue was...well they didn't charge

[broken crown]

I use some cheap iems and fxsound to add more mids

No more headphone dent

[west fable]

I use expensive ish (technically much closer to the budget end than the high end) iems

And Bluetooth headphones

$200 iems, and 200 headphones

And my mic setup was about 400 as well

And my chair is also $400

And my keyboard was also $400

[kindred yacht]

Bro spent more on peripherals than it would take to build my entire PC

[green stream]

im pretty sure my audio equipment alone is worth like 2-3x my pc tower

[kindred yacht]

And here I am with a free keeb and mouse, $150 chair, and $60 headphones

[green stream]

lol

The only thing I really hate paying for is storage. just today I got back from a video shoot and realized this is about to get real expensive when 1hr of footage turned out to be almost 300gb

[kindred yacht]

raw moment

[green stream]

that's the thing, it's not even raw LMAO

I'm glad I decided to not pay the extra licensing for raw

[west fable]

At least it wasn't a terabyte of footage

[obsidian wolf]

hi

where is here

[oblique gazelle]

There

[runic timber]

everywhere

[pulsar jacinth]

To the right

[oblique gazelle]

take it back now yall

[west fable]

one hop this time

[oak drum]

Oof, way out of my budget sadly

I only want to spend 40/50€

I dont need more expensive openbacks or anything

Just something that isnt horribly muddy or has a really bad V profile

[green stream]

Oh? Well I brought it up because the hyperx cloud you mentioned retails at 100usd. In that budget perhaps look at the razer blackshark v2

[pulsar jacinth]

I also have the Cloud. Software is buggy but the headset is noice

Also the cloud stinger exists...kinda big but gets the job done

[west fable]

oh hey rtings is working on a dehumidifiers and microwaves test category

[pulsar jacinth]

Oh?!

[oak drum]

I was basing off 2nd hand prices so yeah sorry

I should just buy a new one and not second hand

The blacksharks are also quite expensive for me, the cheapest versions are 80 EUR

[green stream]

Hmm it may have gone up in price

[pulsar jacinth]

Quick question, should I prioritize gpu speed or Vram?

Based on my budget I'm thinking a basic 3060 with 12gb is nice

but stuff like the amd 7700 or 7600xt also seems nice, plus other variants

[chrome dust]

id just get 7700xt

plain better gpu

3060 is slower than 7700xt

and 7600xt is a meme

[pulsar jacinth]

maybe...

[runic timber]

Depends on your needs but I would take speed personally

[unreal silo]

I am looking for a good headphone with budget 150$

any recommendations

also does wirless headphone give stable sound

[west fable]

as long as the signal is stable

also wdym by stable sound

[unreal silo]

as like it won't cut off randomly and the sound quality is as good as wired headphones

[west fable]

ok yeah as long as the signal is stable, it would be around the same assuming that the DAC inside is decent ish quality, usually would be similar to onboard audio

the downside of wireless (bluetooth specifically, there are ones with 2.4ghz dongles or whatever) is latency

which sometimes can be noticable

[unreal silo]

at this point i'd like to get a wirless headphone

for my pc

[west fable]

especially when gaming

[unreal silo]

I don't want headsets since I have a mic

[west fable]

normally you can get a higher quality headphone for the same price if you go wired

[unreal silo]

hmmm

[west fable]

here are some lists since i gotta go now https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/wired
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-feature/wireless-bluetooth
oh yeah also a downside of the dongle type of wireless headphones is that it might not have bluetooth so it would require a dongle (which means you cant use it on your phone for instance)

[unreal silo]

nw

Thanks bud

[opaque tendon]

what are the best headphones with best sound quality and noise cancelation? I don't care about price

[sturdy jolt]

Best? Time to spend $60,000 on a HE-1

[opaque tendon]

uhh maybe like under 700 😅

[pulsar jacinth]

lol

idk, i did research for months but that information is long gone (BTW XM4/5 and Bose QC Ultra are just kinda better than most ANC but not the best)

[opaque tendon]

what would u suggest? xm5 or bose?

[pulsar jacinth]

Prob QC Ultra honestly, since unless there are known issues, the XM5 gets a bad rep from my friends and the XM4 kinda gets hot

Budget wise tho...for 200$ Costco has q45s and Sony refurbished XM4 ain't bad

[opaque tendon]

i guess ill go with the bose then

[west fable]

rtings ranks bose as the best for noise cancelling (as of May 27, 2024)
and for exactly 700 (before tax), the best sounding noise cancelling headphones according to rtings is the Focal Bathys Wireless

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-feature/active-noise-cancelling#recommendation_311599

the xm4 is also more recommended than the xm5 it seems

apparently the xm4 is more comfortable

build quality is also lowered apparently

10 hour longer battery life than the xm5

as well

charges faster as well

how did sony make almost the same headphone but make it slightly worse

[opaque tendon]

Thank you 🙏

[left prawn]

can someone tell what keyboard this is?

and if it is modded?

[west fable]

looks like a q1 from keychron

modded? idk

probably

q1 pro specifically

since it has the knob

keychron doesnt sell keycaps like those, so they probably bought the barebones kit

idk what the keycaps are though

that monitor stand looks like those herman miller ones or whatever lmao

[runic timber]

I can guess the mouse pad if that helps

I think the mouse too

I'm a bit-

[west fable]

i can guess the uhhh

macbook

[runic timber]

Unsure about the laptop tho

[west fable]

it's a macbook

[runic timber]

Is it a macbook?

[west fable]

probably

[runic timber]

Damn I had it on my mind

[west fable]

it's probably like

[left prawn]

lmao

[west fable]

a logitech mouse lmao

[left prawn]

maybe those ceycaps?

[runic timber]

Not even close

Oh wait keycaps

Nvm

[west fable]

not quite

[runic timber]

I thought it was the layout

[west fable]

missing some colours

also some colours arent the same

but look at biip to see what their keycaps are like

[runic timber]

Y'all never guess the mouse pad

[west fable]

it's not a ltt dot com one is it

[left prawn]

what mousepad is it lmao

[runic timber]

You'll never have guessed

[west fable]

if only there wasnt compression

[runic timber]

Goliathus razer

[west fable]

lmao

a razer mousepad

[left prawn]

nahh hahaha

[runic timber]

That mouse too

Logitech mx

Plant in the corner clicks fingers fern

[west fable]

yeah the mouse i recognized, didnt know the sku but i knew it was something from logitech

is that a fern?

it doesnt really look like one?

it looks more like grass

though blades too wide

[runic timber]

You ready for this

On the wall

Framed motivation poster

🔥🔥🔥

[west fable]

waddahail is this

[runic timber]

Mickey elephant

[west fable]

kasane teto if she was gray

[runic timber]

*winks furiously *

[west fable]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-kasane-teto-teto-baguette-tet-gif-13988632244795693877

[runic timber]

You just need to

fam

[west fable]

https://tenor.com/view/fart-farting-fart-in-your-direction-gross-monty-python-gif-16784927

[runic timber]

OHP BUT GUESS WHAT'S NEXT?

The monitor is an LG

[left prawn]

can you recognise these caps?

[runic timber]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-snap-ohsnap-gif-18271233

[left prawn]

can't really tell

[runic timber]

When it doubt, etsy or amazon

[left prawn]

just joking about the keycpas lmao

[runic timber]

He's got a marble window shelf you see that

Oh he def american af

Practically doxxed

[west fable]

Who the hell has popcorn walls

[runic timber]

Someone in a marble refurbished 1980's house

That guy

[west fable]

Demon Slayer fan spotted

[left prawn]

I have the same wall

[west fable]

Mmmm asbestos wall

[runic timber]

American anime Asbestos fan

This is a AAA picture if I ever saw one

[west fable]

Btw if your house was made before the turn of the century (2000s) there is a risk of any popcorn paint walls or ceilings to contain asbestos

So if the house is over 20 years old, and you have that stuff, it is better to test to make sure that there's no asbestos in it

It was banned by the 80s but there were still some installations that may have still contained asbestos

[runic timber]

The house I was in 2 houses ago had popcorn ceilings

[west fable]

Hell, where I live, we didn't stop exporting that crap till the 2010s or smth ☠️

[runic timber]

That was definitely a house

[west fable]

🏠

[gloomy vine]

My Razer Kraken V3 pro wired headphones works for audio but not as a mic, anyone know why? btw my motherboard is a Gigabyte Z590 UD ATX LGA1200 Motherboard.

[west fable]

is the port you're plugged into (im assuming 3.5mm) a combo jack? if not, that's probably why

most desktops i see dont use combo jacks, only if they only have one 3.5mm on it

if you see 2, normally it's not a combo jack

[gloomy vine]

The back has a blue, green, and pink port while the front has one mic/headphone front port

Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case

Thats the case I use

[gloomy vine]

its 3.5mm but whats the problem with that? I can hear the audio from all apps but can't speak back to people like in discord

[west fable]

if it isnt a combo jack then it doesnt have the conductors to connect the mic as well

or at least, i dont think it's a uhhh trrs connector?

[gloomy vine]

I have to have a combo jack which is one of these things?

[west fable]

yeah possibly

[gloomy vine]

ok, I guess I will give it a shot instead of ordering a SteelSeries headphone

[west fable]

if you have a laptop, or a phone with a headphone jack, you can test with that as well

also another common mistake people might make is leave their mic muted, sometimes there's a switch on the headphones

[gloomy vine]

Im just going to order one and wait tomorrow to see what happens next. Thank you

[gloomy vine]

So good news, I found out where the audio problem was at. It was in my privacy settings where I forgot to turn it on. I just didn’t see discord or any other app on the list that use mic so I assume something was wrong with my app or something else.

[west fable]

privacy???? that

's interesting

[gloomy vine]

The feature that you allow apps to use the mic or not

[night lotus]

@chrome dust one more laptop request
Fiancé needs something than an old Chromebook
Something lightweight, with a touchscreen.
Cheap as you can go.

[opaque tendon]

Im looking for a surface pro for college, does anyone have recommendations for one under 1,500 usd? I see a bunch of them but Im not sure which one is the best

[west fable]

why a surface pro specifically

[night lotus]

Can be refurbished**

[opaque tendon]

I think its good for college its basically a tablet and notes

[west fable]

lenovo yoga also can do that

[runic timber]

Used ipad is a pretty strong argument tbh

[green stream]

Yeah depends on your budget. A sub 500usd ipad can do almost everything a student needs. Anything more can be done at the library if ever needed

[pulsar jacinth]

is weight an issue? In that case a surface pro makes sense

But I only paid 800$ for a samsung S9 FE and Thinkpad

[jolly pendant]

Not when you consider you'd then have to buy $300 in accessories just to use the dang thing

[runic timber]

I mean you work under the assumption it has 90% of those when you buy it. But there's always a used galaxy tablet if you're apple adverse

[west fable]

ipads are light

[pulsar jacinth]

Sure ig. But the convenience of an actual Windows computer can't be replicated with a tablet

At least, I didn't like my tablet enough

[west fable]

depends on what you're doing tbf

[pulsar jacinth]

Excel, docs

I run solidworks sometime soon

....or valorant

[west fable]

purely notetaking is fine with a tablet

[green stream]

The most expensive accessory you need is maybe an apple pencil which can run you 50-120usd. The ipad itself is ~300usd then you can get a case with keyboard if you want for around 50-100usd. Though I have to say I often ended up using the on screen keyboard over a physical one unless it was external

[green stream]

You have to keep in mind tgat if these are the sort of applications you are looking to use a tablet-like notetaking device is certainly not what you are looking for

I know way too many college students that got fairly expensive laptops because “the classes required it” only to find they almost never needed it and wished they had x tablet lol

[opaque tendon]

I honestly just got a scholarship that lets me pick out a laptop, so i was thinking surface pro because its basically an ipad but is there a better laptop out there? Thats like a tablet?

[west fable]

2 in 1 laptops

Or if you don't need to fold it, touchscreen laptops

It would help if we know what applications need to be run

[opaque tendon]

Its not gonna be used for heavy use, just notes, a lot of tabs in the background

Basically like a tablet but i like having windows on it yk

Maybe some games? If its even strong enough to run any

[west fable]

Then yeah look at the Lenovo yoga line

Not detachable but folds all the way back

So it's like a tablet

[opaque tendon]

Im picky i like the detachable ones 😔

https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-Touchscreen-Platform/dp/B09DK2JCX1/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1R3AE04TLU624&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sjIjUBvF5z0b-ICRprMnOJi9ZCPLOYR8jIMNb3PhdWVM8uldRmEYCzMCFrn9HSJ-vJH7uW3-UDb8GqMXcrY97CeyzIesqsVJd8NXNxtDDhAVuo5Lbzbd8iAYJYOf7_ulEdTWG78se_SQAz85rJqcLiMnqnwF9uygheS9yPeBslFZsJVhwJioxPkzVNcsVzUd4BMdAZBiGo3_ZQbvo3rf1v1Fyfby3wJnifzT6fPrG9exyoZbkAekJgY_tHASEcPpBGppU6Rv9XNA4aunhidKy3Qnn0TODOAL2nePdZUVBOo.VX2n25lQ6UxWJMQzsofxjemvCyDS8vd-tCH3pri-Mo8&dib_tag=se&keywords=surface+pro&qid=1718489654&refinements=p_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A23734144011&rnid=23734135011&s=electronics&sprefix=surface+pro%2Caps%2C339&sr=1-8

I found this one, it looks pretty good to me

[west fable]

Well, in that case, idk if there's any other good quality detachable windows tablet that competes with the surface pro

[west fable]

Real

[green stream]

Rog has a few gaming focused tablets but idk how good they are

Not to mention they are probably closer to the 2k range in price

[night lotus]

Refurbished touchscreen laptops?

Cheap**

[green stream]

Now that I think about it, for school stuff I would just figure out what note taking app you want to use and what device works best with it because a lot of this is app specific

[warped yew]

Goodnotes on an iPad

Base iPad plus Goodnotes and an Apple Pencil. That’s all you need. Cheaper than a decent laptop with a crappy stylus and OneNote

[old vapor]

Samsung's notes is pretty nice too

Tablet includes pen in the price and if you have an Android device you can quickshare between them

Same goes for windows as well

But again, depends on what features you want

[old vapor]

Surface, 2 years down the line it'll probably start struggling to exist sometimes, not a great laptop

Exactly what happened with my pro 7

Randomly fans just ramp up, gets really hot, lags occasionally

Then the hinge broke off at year 4

And uh, yeah OneNote is a little temperamental on occasion

[west fable]

their requirements are fully detachable, windows, and can run alot of tabs ☠️
i dont think there's much options for these requirements lmao

[old vapor]

This is fair...

[cinder anvil]

can someone suggest a good, cheap surge protector?

[eager bison]

just go to walmart

find something name brand

GE

[cinder anvil]

general electric?

[west fable]

I use this https://www.amazon.ca/SCHNEIDER-ELECTRIC-Protector-Essential-PE76/dp/B01M7SPNM1

[kindred yacht]

How much surge protection you need is an important factor. That can range from "mild static shock" to "direct lightning strike on the building wiring" and the cost varies as you might imagine.

[old vapor]

1440 joules is good

[west fable]

Imo invest the $200-300 for a professional installation of a whole home surge protector

(the surge protector is like $100, and the installation may be like $200)

If you have a larger house, it would cost more, but for a single detached home in the US, I think $300 would be a fairly good estimate

[old vapor]

This does protect your entire house

[cinder anvil]

will this be enough for a desktop?

[west fable]

yeah

honestly speaking, a ups makes more sense for a desktop

well, surge protection is still useful

but you'll probably run into more power outages than power surges

and ups's ususally have surge protection

[old vapor]

Unfortunately, you also can't replace the surge protection once it's worn out for ups

[west fable]

how often are power surges ☠️

i havent had a single power surge in the 3 years i've used this ups

also i need to buy new batteries for it soon

[kindred yacht]

Every time there's a power outage, when the power comes back on there's a small surge. It's usually well within the spec for any connected devices, but it doesn't hurt to be able to filter that out.

We get outages at least a couple times a year thanks to the storms that have been increasing in intensity this past decade

[old vapor]

Indood

Still, something to consider

[west fable]

true

neglected that bit

the fairly small power surges from high draw devices and power coming back after outages are usually so small that i dont really consider them surges in my mind, especially since most devices can handle it, but yeah true

i wonder if the surge suppression or the relay/contactor in my ups would die first though

or maybe it would be the cooling fan

i do wonder what the cooling fan is in my ups

and if it's replaceable

though i doubt it would die in the lifetime of the ups? since it's only on during battery power

[old vapor]

Honestly I'm not sure about that

The fact that they still use lead acid is kinda weird tho

[west fable]

Cheaper

at least initially

long term, lithium may be around the same, or cheaper?

also with lithium, that likes to stay like, 80% of the capacity for longer lifespan?

[old vapor]

Oh that's true

[west fable]

while lead acid prefers to be kept at 100% charge

[old vapor]

Yeah that's a fair point

[west fable]

so yeah, they would need more lithium capacity for a certain capacity of a ups for it to last for 10 years or maybe even more, so that also raises the costs

definitely more power dense though

energy dense

oh yeah a benefit of conventional lead acid battery UPSs, you can pretty easily mod it to add way more capacity

could use car batteries

can even use flooded lead acid batteries (but highly not recommended due to spill and explosive hazard lmao)

[old vapor]

What if you just used a lake as a lead acid battery

[west fable]

you'd need quite an acidic lake

lmao

lakes tend to be higher on the ph scale which probably wont work

[old vapor]

The lake is right there

No one else is using it

[pliant adder]

Looking for a cheap but good ups to power 550w pc (max it draws under load) and 50w monitor. From the little I understand about ups I'd need at least a 1000VA if the power factor is 0.6. Could also be a 800VA with 0.8 pf. So that they're able to provide a constant 600W+ output.
People recommend true sine wave for computers and other sensitive electronics. Recommendations? Thanks

[west fable]

power factor of most psu's are actually fairly close to 1
my ups says that my pc is using around the same w as va

usually AVRs should be fine for pcs? havent really had issues with that on the cheaper pc, though my main rig does use a pfc ups

[pliant adder]

Main problem on Amazon is the one they sell are rated for a certain output and barely meet 60% of that before overloading

[west fable]

CP1000PFCLCD
BR1000MS

those 2 models (cyberpower and APC) should meet your needs, both sine wave

cyberpower is $200, apc is 300

er

actually apc is in cad so it isnt 300

ok cp and apc are both around the same price

[pliant adder]

Mmmh
I was thinking of spending less than €100 but I guess there's no chance if I want true sine wave

[west fable]

yeah true sine wave isnt cheap

if you go for simulated sine wave, that you can get for much cheaper

[green stream]

Batteries ain’t cheap

[calm mural]

I dont know if anyone would know, but is there any gaming keyboards in Norwegian Nynorsk (Or Bokmål, doesn't matter for me) language format?

Checked amazon and they only have work keyboards

[west fable]

You can often just switch the key caps

Most keyboards use Cherry MX style stems

[calm mural]

Oh right

Thanks

[west fable]

Lol np

[old vapor]

buy keyboard, buy keycap on amazon

[kindred yacht]

Yep then you just change your input language from inside your OS

[fluid cargo]

Anyone have any experience with the VITURE PRO glasses? Or gaming with them please?

[calm mural]

tried looking for some but i kept getting japanese keycaps

looked on another website, found this

https://goblintechkeys.com/products/norwegian-classic-vintage-keycaps-set-retro-keycaps

and i dont know why its so expensive for keycaps

https://www.kromekeycaps.com/en-us/collections/norwegian-keycaps/products/white-norwegian-iso-no-dual-language-pbt-pudding-keycaps

Or these

[west fable]

they get more expensive depending on the material, pbt ususally costs more than abs, but is more durable

double shot has a more durable print

[calm mural]

do they think im gonna smash my keys lol?

[west fable]

no, abs kinda just

wears down over time

[calm mural]

i see

i dont really mind material, where else can i get cheap caps?

[west fable]

kinda hard, you could try aliexpress

[calm mural]

as much as i hate ali, theyre just keycaps

ill check it out

[old vapor]

https://www.keychron.com/search?type=product%2Cpage%2Carticle&options[prefix]=last&q=nordic+keycaps

first few keycap sets are on sale

[calm mural]

Oh wow they look nice

[west fable]

keychron would be higher quality probably

[old vapor]

it do be keychron yeah

[west fable]

yeah most are pbt

[old vapor]

something to consider, especially since they're on sale rn

[calm mural]

i dont think i have that type of keyboard

the enter key wouldnt fit

i have a havit keyboard

[west fable]

is it ISO or ANSI?

ISO is the one with the big enter

ANSI is the one in the embed image

[old vapor]

iso's the one with the L shaped enter button

[calm mural]

ansi

[west fable]

it should fit i'd think?

idk what keyboard you have exactly but if it's standard, it probably would

main thing that you usually need to take note of is the spacebar size

[calm mural]

this yes?

[west fable]

yeah it should fit

[old vapor]

you don't technically need to replace the enter keeycap on the original keyboard

or the spacebar

[west fable]

also yeah lol

it's not like it has text

or text that matters

[calm mural]

wdym? like i should just keep what i have now?

[west fable]

if it doesnt fit, just use the same enter as you have already

[old vapor]

just replace all the other keycaps except for the enter and the spacebar

is what i'm saying

[calm mural]

i figured i would just do that

change everything except the caps that are different for foreign typing

[west fable]

looking at the image though, it should fit though

nothing about the sizing on your keyboard looks non-standard

[old vapor]

unless you got a freaky lookin keyboard layout it'll fit

1u is 1u

[twin jolt]

last thing you want after spending a fortune on a good keyboard is for your keycaps to wear down STUPID fast. Thats the purpose of higher quality materials on the caps. They dont wear through to the plastic, print face stays and or the surface doesnt become slick and shiny as fast. ect

[calm mural]

our new wifi is supposedly really good, but for some reason every 3 minutes i get a huge internet lag spike, my ping goes from 90 ms to 850 ms, could my pc be the issue?

but it only lasts a second

[tepid hazel]

what's the cheapest / under USD150 Android tablets with active digitizer support u'd recommend ?
(refurbished/good condition used is ok)

[west fable]

what does "supposely really good" mean

[calm mural]

:shrug:

just got told it was really good no elaborating

[old vapor]

Are you using your own router?

Or just using the modem router combo the ISP gave you

If it's the latter, yeah that's kinda expected

Only things you can do is turn up the antenna power on your PC

[west fable]

Like, a friend? Or the isp lol

[chrome dust]

that's basically every tablet ever rn

oh, something that supports pens?

maybe tab s6 lite?

[calm mural]

my stepdad

[calm mural]

you can do that?

[old vapor]

yeah but it can just kinda crowd out all the other wifi devices in the same room that way

so everything else suffers

[calm mural]

eh i don’t think everyone else needs that much

[old vapor]

or, they might

[calm mural]

idk, we got quantum fiber then got some boosters

[old vapor]

is quantum your internet provider?

[calm mural]

yea

[old vapor]

oh gotcha lmao I was a little confused

Windows button + X is a shortcut for opening device manger btw

then you select device manager from the little popup

Under Network adapters, double click your wifi card

Click on the Advanced tab and scroll all the way down

Click Transmit Power and set that to High

you can also do other optimizations while you're there, actually

Double check 802.11n/ac/ax Wireless Mode has AX selected. If you don't see AX as an option, just make sure AC is selected

Set MIMO Power Save Mode to No SMPS

Set Throughput Booster to Enabled

@calm mural

[calm mural]

I’ll do that when I get home, thank you

[old vapor]

cool, it should help improve your performance

no matter what wifi you connect to

[tepid hazel]

thanks yup I see that recommended a lot,
but even refurb still around 180

I was wondering as close to 100 as possible but that'd only leave old used/refurb Galaxy Tab S series like S3 or S4

which prob no longer get security updates

[west fable]

pen tablets are worth a little bit since they're useful for notetaking; refurb usually has a little warranty which is nice, but you can definitely find stuff for cheaper that arent refurb, but dont have warranty of course

[tepid hazel]

yep certified refurbs for the peace of mind,
used stuff or even seller refurbs I'd have no idea what to really expect

S6 Lite go for as low as ~150 ebay refurb so not too bad 🤔

[pliant adder]

I'm currently looking for an ups for my pc and other small devices.
I think I understood most stuff stuff about Watts, VA, apparent/active/reactive power, power factors... I'd like someone to help me on this topic. From what I understood, at least for pc power supplies, the active power is the one actually used by the components, reactive power is the heat generated from the power supply and apparent power is the sum of the two (aka what gets really drawn from the outlet), all related to the psu efficiency (80plus thing), right?
So, what are VA and Watts on an ups? I already measured the maximum power draw of my PC from the outlet (apparent power?) ≈ 550w
What would be the minimum ups requirement considering only my pc + possible brief power draw spikes?

I'm not really good when it comes to actual electricity and all units of measurement together with long and confusing explanations I find online

[old vapor]

As far as I know, VA is equivalent to W.

Id say a safe bet would be a 1000VA ups

I run my desktop and other electronics including monitors and stuff and when utility power is lost, it'll run for 5 minutes with everything on

[old vapor]

This is also mathematically true, you can check it

[west fable]

va = w when the load is resistive

inductive loads usually is higher

residential housing is usually billed by the watt hours, while commercial buildings, especially factories are billed by the va

[pliant adder]

I'm not sure if I got this right but I read somewhere (I may have got it wrong) that the ups can provide continuous operation as far as the total power draw of the devices (what they would consume from the outlet) doesn't exceed the ups Watt rating, and you can actually go past that for a short time as far as you stay within the VA rating.

Oh right I got this from chat gpt but it can't be trusted much yk

[old vapor]

Well I got a 1000va ups for my 850w psu

But it's probably true

[west fable]

tbf
most ratings are slightly under the actual max capacity of something

like, 500w psus usually have OPP set a bit higher than 500w

[old vapor]

True, true