windows-ios

[cinder mauve]

Should I just uninstall all of the redistributables and let the Ableton Live Lite installer try to install it on its own?

I found a product key {33628a12-6787-4b9f-95a1-92449f69fae0} that had "Name not available" as its name... will try uninstalling this one to see if it fixes my issue

YES

It worked!!

After all it was 3 hidden installations of a redistributable behind the name “Name not available”

Thanks for your help Fal

[thorn dew]

is anyone available to hep me with some storage and bios support

[crisp spire]

!ask

[tidal lintel]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[cinder mauve]

there are loads of people willing to help if you would just ask your question 😔

[near furnace]

In Firefox, is anyone aware of a "Reveal in Explorer"-equivalent feature ?

• Search results do not reveal bookmarks' paths
• Bookmark Search Plus 2 shows u paths,
  but does not 'teleport' u there

I wanted to be "teleported"/redirected there, like u'd expect from a "Reveal in Explorer" feature,
instead of having to dig nested bookmark folders

alternatively, if Firefox Bookmarks manager / "Library" were to have a URL/path bar u could copy and paste the paths, that'd help a lot too

[cinder mauve]

I have this really old pc with a i5 3570, gt710, it keeps throwing blue screen errors and all are different, I'm not sure what is the exact problem, when I searched those error codes, it was about faulty ram, system error etc, I recently installed an SSD with windows 10 in it

Sometimes it shows errors in dd

[crisp spire]

Run the bat file pinned here

[cinder mauve]

uh, what did that do?

@crisp spire

[crisp spire]

Scans and fixes windows errors

[cinder mauve]

Oh okay...I'll restart and see of the problem persists

[brisk harbor]

my pc is so slow it just windows 3.1'd itself

[dark tulip]

So i have this gpu a 980ti and its overclocked. It doesn work with my 700w psu but i have a 1030 and it works. but when i plug the 980ti in somebody else's pc it works. How can i get the 980ti to work? can it be a psu problem?

[humble sigil]

Literally sounds like a power issue. If it works at idle but not load, simple thing to try is lowering clockspeed and/or voltage to stock or a bit lower. Also a better thread is the one about gfx cards or cases/psus.

[spice beacon]

what power supply? if its a bad psu it might not be able to handle it

[balmy grove]

^

[brisk harbor]

so im trying to turn on toggle keys and its not working

the one where it makes a sound when you turn on caps lock

its not working

[cinder mauve]

I get the error irql_less_or_not_equal. I only installed the nvidia display driver and Intel drivers, is it because of a faulty memory module, cus it didn't occur when I used my other Ram sticks.

How can I chech my ram

[marble saffron]

use 1 stick of ram in each dimm and keep putting it over by one and see if you still get the error

also try both sticks if you're using 2

try all 4 if you're using 4

[cinder mauve]

I have two slots and have 3 different sticks...

[marble saffron]

um

well try all 3

[cinder mauve]

I'll try it tho

Yeah..

[marble saffron]

are they all diff brands and speeds?

[cinder mauve]

Ig yess

[marble saffron]

eek

[cinder mauve]

Bought in three different timelines

[marble saffron]

Probably not the best way of doing things, some sticks of ram wont be compatible but they will also slow down ur ram to whatever the slowest is at

best to go with a 2x16/2x8 kit 🤷‍♂️

[cinder mauve]

It's DDR3, I knew it is bad to mix up sticks but i didn't expect my pc to keep crashing

It restarts before i even login

I have an SSD installed so it crashes really fast

[marble saffron]

yeah im using 2 diff models of ddr3 atm till i get my ddr4 comp motherboard, i dont recommend it, if it works gg but alot of the time it wont

[cinder mauve]

Oh yeah and is the error 'IRQL_NOT LESS OR EQUAL error somehow related to bad memory??

These sticks came free actually, I'll tell my dad to buy a new one instead

[marble saffron]

it can be from bad ram modules yes

[humble sigil]

Al least ddr3 can be had pretty cheap if you hunt. Well decent priced I mean. $40 or less for a fine 2x8GB kit

[dark tundra]

I need a windows 11 pro key for cheap but I want a trusted seller?

[spice beacon]

not volume license for cheap (code BST for 20% off)
https://www.vip-urcdkeys.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1966-20.html

For 2 keys
https://www.vip-urcdkey.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-2-pc-.html

[dark tundra]

No retail keys?

[spice beacon]

Not unless you consider 110$ cheap

Or you can leave unactivated if you don't mind watermark

[graceful bramble]

OEM keys and retail keys are pretty much the same for an average user

[solar escarp]

Iirc, OEM keys can’t be transferred between installs.

[crisp spire]

Some can

Some cant

[humble sigil]

You mean 1 key on 2 separate actively used pcs?

[crisp spire]

No

Carry over the key to another build

[humble sigil]

Reminds me of the bs calling Microsoft in the past to reactivate after getting a new mobo. Glad I have an extra key for future build then. Some people dual-screen, I'm gonna dual-PC

[solar escarp]

I mean, they still do that iirc.

[spice beacon]

You can link your ms account to the profile if you want to avoid that

[tulip bone]

Any good softwares to move windows to a different drive

[tight wing]

I used AOMEI Partition Assistant but iirc I had to purchase a license to use it

[tulip bone]

Was hoping for a free one, I have one but I think I have to get rid of everything else on the drive to move windows cause I can't select specific files

[spice beacon]

Marcium reflect

[tulip bone]

That's the one I have but not sure on how to just copy windows files

[wraith timber]

if you want just windows, reinstall

[spice beacon]

So you just want a fresh version of Windows? Then just use Windows media creation tool onto a usb and do a fresh install

[tulip bone]

I was thinking of doing a fresh install but how would that work if there's already a version on there?

[wraith timber]

If there's already a running copy of windows on the drive you would otherwise clone to, what's the problem?

[tulip bone]

So basically I've got a new drive an sn750 I wanna move my current windows onto but cloning just the windows file is the part I'm unsure on cause in Marcium reflect you can't select certain files. But if I do a fresh install I'll have two copy's on separate drives unless I just delete that one

Would that mean I'd need another Windows key

[mint birch]

Anyone familiar with TrueNAS?

[humble sigil]

Fresh install generally means formatting over current stuff

[spice beacon]

You basically just erase over it

[spice beacon]

You either copy over the whole drive or install a new copy of Windows, you should just be able to covert the windows key over or you could link your ms account and it will copy over the key. Sounds like you just want to copy over the whole drive then format your old drive so you don't have to go through setting everything up again

[tulip bone]

This new drive is only 500gb and the old one is a tb which is full so think I'll do a clean install and delete the windows files off the old one

[humble sigil]

Yeah you can fresh install to empty and copy over what you want before formatting other drive(s)

[neon ermine]

I came here to say one thing

[tidal lintel]

TritnTrent#7620 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[humble sigil]

Ok, bye

[neon ermine]

wegg bot will not let me say this

goodbye

[wraith sage]

ratio

[humble sigil]

L

[rare solar]

hey guys i have a question is virtualbox.org safe

[rare solar]

i heard about it never used it

[crisp spire]

Is this a real question?

[rare solar]

ummm no

[balmy grove]

virtualbox is safe lol

[vestal ibex]

Virtualbox is one of the most used virtual machine programs. Top 3 at least.

[cinder mauve]

Hey, I have a question for y’all

[spice beacon]

!ask

[tidal lintel]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[unique python]

Does anyone have any suggestions on getting a copy of windows 7 for an old Toshiba Satellite laptop? Microsoft seems to have pulled all downloads of it a while ago and the recovery partition is gone, I tried windows 10 but there were far too many driver issues to keep it on.

[solar escarp]

I’m afraid there no legit way to do it. There’s always the non-legit ways though.

[unique python]

That's kind of what I figured. I did find a few promising things on the internet archive, so we'll see how that goes. I was able to revert to windows 7, but something is causing a service host process to constantly eat up RAM, I'm not sure if it's a memory leak or what. Either way I'd like to try a clean install, the laptop is eleven years old but has somewhat decent specs for a media center which is the plan if I ever get it working smoothly.

[urban kestrel]

can i get someone to help me please?

[delicate onyx]

We kinda need the problem to help you

[urban kestrel]

my start menu is not popping up anymore whatsoever.

i know i know. i'm just tired

and frustrated

already ran through command and powershell and nothing is working

[last gorge]

Did you try restarting explorer.exe

[urban kestrel]

yes

nothing

last resort is reinstalling windows 10

but my wife has a lot of stuff on here too and i wanna talk to her about it first

[vestal ibex]

Run the repair batch file in the pins

This one

[urban kestrel]

What is that? I’m sorry, I’m about to head off for the night

[vestal ibex]

It runs a couple of built in windows utilities, sfc (system file checker) and dism (deployment imaging service management) that repair the base windows files in case of corruption or deletion.

[tulip bone]

So I'm in the amd folder on my pc do I need to keep all the old driver installers there?

[humble sigil]

like the exe files you ran? Not usually. I keep or DL latest ones once in a while because they don't use much room.

[winged obsidian]

could someone help me figure out why I can't open snip and sketch using the print screen key specifically while I'm tabbed into discord? It works every time if I'm not clicked into the window

[graceful bramble]

Is it keybinded to anything in Discord?

[winged obsidian]

no, it's actually a new windows + discord install, too

I checked focus assist in case that had anything to do with it, but that's turned off

[urban kestrel]

leaving this question for anyone who can help me. so i come to find out that there is some firewall on my computer that i dont know about. apparently a windows 11 feature is disabling its own firewall if it detects that there is another active firewall in the computer.

so how would i go about finding what firewalls my computer has?

[crisp spire]

What anti virus program do you use?

[urban kestrel]

it was mcafee. but it's turned off because i never renewed it

[crisp spire]

Uninstall it

And ull be using the norma;l windows firewall

[urban kestrel]

nothing. i think some sort of firewall found its way onto my computer

this is really stupid. but i was trying to get directplay to work, and i may have downloaded a third party firewall type program that would apparently repair damaged and corrupt files. i uninstalled it tho, so windows should be the only firewall i have right now

[crisp spire]

If ur refering to the windows scan and fix file thats pinned here, its not a firewall or a program

[plucky jolt]

hi i am experiencing an issue which causes some games ( around 90% of my games ) to lag to around 3 - 10 fps depending on the game , this glitch randomly happens while playing , also any audio from outside of the game will be distorted , when this happens the fps drop effect out side apps , not my cursour and and the animations in the taskbars tho , ive tried restarting my pc , and clean installing the drivers using ddu ,the issue isnt probably a performance or thermal thing since geforce overlay or any other fps showing app shows normal fps .
the only games that seem nnot to cause this glitch is minecraft ( bedrock edition , havent tried java )

am on a laptop , idea pad gaming 3 , gtx 1650 , intel core i5-10300h 8 gb ram around 500 gb ssd

this is haunting me and makes me a bit depressed every time i remember it exsists cuz it kills half of my games for me ,

also in taskmanger windows managers started taking 1.5gb of ram
and gpu usage drops

[crisp spire]

Sounds like u need more ram

@plucky jolt

[plucky jolt]

ram isnt free , why did they sell me this laptop then

its a gaming laptop that crashes when running games

[crisp spire]

...

[plucky jolt]

also am scared to buy ram with 30% of my money ( am still in middle school ) then for the bug to stay

[crisp spire]

Just get more ram

[plucky jolt]

how to know what type of ram sticks are in my laptop

[humble sigil]

try hwinfo64 and cpu-z shows basic info

[vestal ibex]

This is often accurate too, in case they decided to solder your ram it'll tell you
https://www.crucial.com/upgrades

[plucky jolt]

hmm , the clock is lower than what the ram stick says

but bruh , the clock says 1600mhz , here it says 3200mhz but taskmanager says 2933

[crisp spire]

1600mhz is 3200 ram

Since double data rate

[plucky jolt]

ok

and why does task manager say 2933

[crisp spire]

10300h

Is capped to 2933

Iirc

[plucky jolt]

ok

[humble sigil]

Task manager often reads cpu and/or ram clock wrong

[winged obsidian]

either snip and sketch doesn't work while specific apps are open, or Discord blocks some shortcuts from working while it's focused. Anyone know how I should troubleshoot this?

[dry raft]

Anyone know if switching from Office 2010 to Office 365 will make it monthly subscriptions?

[vestal ibex]

365 is always subscription based. And I hate it.

[dry raft]

There is a one time thing apparently

[peak notch]

is like 250 tho

[dry raft]

When viewing on Desktop it wasnt complaining about not being available in my region and was only like 1.5x the price of Personal ($80 Personal, ~$125 Home)

Either way, still dont know whether 2010 upgrade is Personal or Home

[peak notch]

i just use google :P

but the office suite is online as well

for free

[digital karma]

@crisp spire

[crisp spire]

Ok so hawk can you boot into recovery mode and then start up the command prompt?

or rather advanced options

and command prompt

[digital karma]

Can we meet in vc or something?

Kinda easier to explain

[crisp spire]

cant rn but its not that tough ull be fine

[digital karma]

So I clicked "setup my pin" and now it's just stuck on "just a moment "

[crisp spire]

just follow what i say

please

[digital karma]

I did this before you said any of that

I've been waiting a while actually

[crisp spire]

ok then hard reboot your pc because its probably not really gonna go through

hold power button down

[digital karma]

Done

[crisp spire]

ok you know the screen where you go to boot to safe mode?

go to that screen

dont go to safe mode

[digital karma]

So the hold shift and restart?

[crisp spire]

yeah

lets check if you have a system restore point

some programs make one

[digital karma]

And then advanced options?

[crisp spire]

yeah

[digital karma]

Ok now what?

[crisp spire]

system restore

do you see any restore points there?

[digital karma]

Should I click that?

[crisp spire]

choose that and hit next

[digital karma]

Ok done its in the loading screen

Restarting now

It works!

Thanks man @crisp spire

[crisp spire]

np

for the future id recommend googling around as to what something someone on the internet recommends actually does btw

also id recommend running the windows scan and fix file pinned here once rn

@digital karma

[digital karma]

Windows scan you mean the antivirus?

[crisp spire]

nah

i mean the file thats pinned here

this one

[digital karma]

Oh I should run that rn?

[crisp spire]

yeah

[plucky jolt]

help

[last gorge]

Ummm

Wat did you do

[crisp spire]

killbot is geometry dash right?

[wanton rune]

I forgot who sent me the youtube link for a superlite windows 10 iso and other custom iso's

I think it was Sips or someone else?

[wanton rune]

@tall lichen hate to bother you but were you the one who sent me that video about the superlite windows 10 iso?

Its been a while

[tall lichen]

no

[vestal ibex]

Forks maybe

[wanton rune]

perhaps

[last gorge]

it might've been a user that is no longer here

[vestal ibex]

I know Forks has this
#overclocking message

[last gorge]

lol

[crisp spire]

Tbf this isnt superlight as much as stripped of almost all functions to give maximum benchmark perf

[spice beacon]

Yeah you dont get internet anymore or nothing

[plucky jolt]

if i have 2 gpus connected to 2 diffrent displays and run two diffrent tasks that are gpu heavy not that cpu heavy, will each game act if have the same gpu , but a weaker cpu?

and if soo can i make it that the deticated gpu in a laptop connected to an extarnal display but the integrated graphics to my display?

[spice beacon]

What

Why would you use 2 gpus

You can't play 2 games at once anyway

Like you can have open but you'd only be able to look at one while interacting with the other

[plucky jolt]

just askig

[steel karma]

Hey, I just bought an hp victus and it won't let me get to the desktop unless I create a Microsoft account.

Is there a way to bypass this? I really don't want to make an online account just to use my laptop.

[spice beacon]

dont connect to internet when making account if on windows 10

[steel karma]

Thanks, will try that.

Not even an option

Won't allow me to progress without internet

They're getting really aggressive with their tactics

Not even a button to put the laptop in airplane mode or turn the wifi off

Sweet Jesus, I gave it dummy info just to get through it for now, and now it's updating to Win11 without my input.

I have no control over this laptop and it's pissing me off

[humble sigil]

I really hate how I can't seem to "choose" which of the priority updates are downloaded, they all are.

[vestal ibex]

There's an easy way to stop it from updating to 11. Disable your tpm and the pc will be deemed incompatible.

[steel karma]

I had to go through two sets of setups just to get to the desktop

It wouldn't allow me to edit any settings that would stop that process

[grave peak]

can anyone help me with some basic raspberry pi problems?

like not being able to do a headless setup

not sure if its because its connecting to a 5ghz instead of a 2.4 or something else...

(doing headless because no peripherals are working w my pi)

ping me if you could help

[last gorge]

are you using a headless iso to flash to it

also generic peripherals that don't require proprietary drivers work best, keeb most important to get working

[open elbow]

is the program "Teams Machine-Wide Installer" by Microsoft actually from Microsoft Teams?

I had Teams installed for school but i uninstalled it, but that other app is still there, is it safe to uninstall?

[balmy grove]

Mhm

Doesn't sound bad to me

[spice beacon]

Yes it is, it installs teams on any profile that doesn't have it when they log in, so if you want to uninstall you need to uninstall both teams and machine wide installer

[open elbow]

alright, thx

[cinder mauve]

anyone know what tpm 2.0 is? says its needed for win11

[peak notch]

it isnt something you can really add to your system

so if you dont have it you dont have it

[cinder mauve]

nvm i found out how to enable it in bios

i was just looking at the requirements and the pc health check said it wasnt enabled

[peak notch]

wasnt on by default?

didnt know

[cinder mauve]

ig not

[peak notch]

you gonna install win 11?

[cinder mauve]

maybe

dont know yet

[peak notch]

what cpu you got?

[cinder mauve]

ryzen 5 3600

[peak notch]

eh i would stick with 10

its really only makes a difference with 12th gen intel chips

[cinder mauve]

i heard its not that good with gaming

[peak notch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

its just reskinned win 10

at the end of the day

[cinder mauve]

looks better but i wont switch for a while

[last gorge]

some systems can have tpm disabled by default

[vestal ibex]

It's only recently manufacturers have started pushing bios updates with it enabled by default

[spice beacon]

A poor reskin at that

[prime valve]

if I have slow startup and when I shutdown my pc there error messages shown and it automatically closed

[vestal ibex]

You can see the errors in the event viewer. Filter by critical to see if there's anything major.

[prime valve]

how?

i am new to this

[vestal ibex]

https://www.howtogeek.com/school/using-windows-admin-tools-like-a-pro/lesson3/

[prime valve]

thanks

there is

too much

what is do ?

@vestal ibex

[crisp spire]

uhhhh

oh sorted by critical

sheesh

[vestal ibex]

Move the columns so we can see the event source better

[crisp spire]

yeah

or

download and install whocrashed

[vestal ibex]

It's not the kind of issue that whocrashed picks up

[crisp spire]

oh driver framework

whocrashed doesnt pick those up?

[prime valve]

if error ok ?

only critical matter ?

[vestal ibex]

Critical are the only ones that will throw the errors you're seeing. Having a few can be fine depending on the issue.

Click the top one

Oh wait nvm that's 2021

[prime valve]

?\

there is 2022

[vestal ibex]

3rd from the top, the one from this month. Click that and show the bottom of the window

[prime valve]

like this ?

can i make with u screen call ?

so i understand and it faster to u

[vestal ibex]

Hit the details tab and that should be the last thing to tell if it's relevant at all

[vestal ibex]

Ok, looks like your headset driver

See if you still have errors with the headset unplugged

[prime valve]

not every time it shows

[wraith sage]

how do i scan a drive other than C drive with sfc/scannow? I forgot

[vestal ibex]

Hmm. My headset has those same kind of intermittent errors too, and it does make the boot time longer when it's plugged in. Try leaving it out when you're not using it for a few days.

[prime valve]

ok

thank u

so no issue ?

or some thing bad or will effect in future

[vestal ibex]

Offwindir=X:/Windows offbootdir=Y:/efi

[crisp spire]

are u trying to run checkdisk?

[wraith sage]

yes

i know how to scan the C drive

[crisp spire]

cd d:\

chkdsk /r /f
Hit Enter

[wraith sage]

thanks

[crisp spire]

replace d with drive letter ofc

[vestal ibex]

Or just chkdsk D: /r /f

[crisp spire]

oh fair yeah

[wraith sage]

guessing i replace D with whatever drive im scanning?

ive been having random crashes

so im checking all drives for corrupt files

[vestal ibex]

Chkdsk will check the physical sectors of the specified drive, and attempt to recover any files in corrupt sectors. Sfc will make sure critical system files are intact.

Running both is not a bad idea.

Sfc is included in the pinned bat file but chkdsk is not

[wraith sage]

alr thanks

one of these drives barely has anything on it, like 1/20th of my main drive and its taking much longer

even tho its an hdd im guessing it found smthn

[humble sigil]

It's a hdd, 'nuf said.

[wraith sage]

a good one

hgst 7200rpm

[humble sigil]

Seems they sometimes choke up on a random task

[wraith sage]

@rocky cedar you busy?

my friend is having an issue installing drivers for their igpu (amd), minecraft gives an error when trying to launch and it says to get up to date drivers

i have them go through the install process, it gives an error message saying windows blocked it

[rocky cedar]

What driver is Minecraft looking for?

[wraith sage]

gpu im fairly sure

theyre extremely out of date

since they got the pc

a year ago

3200g, so vega 8

downloaded from here https://www.amd.com/en/support/apu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-3-desktop-processors-radeon-vega-graphics/amd-ryzen-3-1

error 204 i believe

[crisp spire]

safe mode

ddu

reboot

install

if it still errors try installing in safe mode

[wraith sage]

alr thanks

[wraith sage]

Bro

This scan is still at 27% total

I think it might be my ehdd

Nvm

It's an internal

Would empty space be able to cause crashes?

If that makes any sense

Because this drive has maybe 300gb on it with over 3tb of empty space

[vestal ibex]

If there's hard fault errors or physical bad sectors yes

Even an empty bad sector can cause the read arm to skip as it passes by

[wraith sage]

Oh also

I miss explained it earlier

The crashes I get are freezes, not proper crashes

Everything freezes, other than my cursor

And I can still talk on discord if I'm in a call

Only way to turn the pc off is via holding the power button until it forces a shut off

I thought it could be a drivers issue, but those are up to date

Happened four times now

Just before the first one I got a blue screen

@vestal ibex does that sound like it could be a drive issue?

[vestal ibex]

Drivers can cause hangs like that yeah. Or a failing peripheral. Or a bad drive, as you're testing now.

[wraith sage]

My monitors are all fine, no way all three died simultaneously

[vestal ibex]

A monitor wouldn't do that, but I have seen a bad mouse do that

And headphones

[wraith sage]

Really

The headphones are pretty good

I won them, shure srh 440s

Mouse is a roccat kone air or pro, I forget which

[vestal ibex]

If it's a peripheral there's usually a driver fault critical error in event viewer around the time of the hang

[wraith sage]

Just happened again

Becoming more frequent

Happened while the scan was going, meaning the progress was lost

Was only at 48% after all that time

At this point I'm unplugging one drive at a time

I dont need all the storage I have anyways

And isolating the problem would be good

[scenic hornet]

Anyone familiar with windows automatic repair loops ?

[prime valve]

How i fix this?

Ping with the answer plz

[humble sigil]

It's just realtek, so "shut down anyway" .

[crisp spire]

There is no problem to fix

[humble sigil]

tbh I have something like that once in a while.

[prime valve]

Ok

So normal?

[crisp spire]

yes

[vestal ibex]

If it bugs you enough you can reduce the time the system gives it to respond before forcing it to quit

[crisp spire]

Hmm regedit?

[hollow cairn]

Is it possible to hook up an iPhone into OBS as a camera and if so how to do it

[dusky geyser]

you can use something like iriun webcam which is free and then setup a camera input in obs

[hollow cairn]

Okie

Speaking about camera what’s a good budget@friendly camera I can use to@record videos

[spice beacon]

You can use your phone camera through obs virtual camera and an app like iriun or ip webcam for starting out if you want btw

[hollow cairn]

Any tutorials

[dusky geyser]

there are some on youtube for iriun

[spice beacon]

Same for ip webcam

[hollow cairn]

K

[vestal ibex]

Yep that's one way.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\HungAppTimeout

[crisp spire]

Thanks! never knew i needed this till rn

actually that key doesnt exist on win 11, unless i need to manually add?

figured it out

[humble sigil]

Imagine using any new OS within a year of it being out, couldn't be me. rip Win7. EDIT thnx Fal for that reg edit

[tired nacelle]

are there any good/easy to set up tts programs for VB cable?

[tall lichen]

is there a way to park cores using windows power plan? thought this would be it but it doesn't seem to work

i want a power plan where i only have 4-6 cores active to save power/thermals in lighter games

(it's a laptop)

still seeing 4.6ghz effective across all 8 cores when running a stress test with above settings applied

[wheat isle]

my audio randomly cuts out and i get the loudspeaker with an x next to it, is there any way to stop this from happening?

and when it says audio is playing no audio comes out

i have tried restarting windows 3 times and it hasnt done anything

[tall lichen]

tried updating audio driver?

[wheat isle]

yeah

not sure it is the right one though

[last gorge]

try a different port, front io, back io, etc

[wheat isle]

dont have any

i only have the one 3.5mm

[wheat isle]

ok so i can get audio through my bluietooth speaker but not my wired headphones

or my laptop's speakers

anyone know what drivers i sould install

[wheat isle]

thank you for the great advice everyone

[plucky jolt]

not sure why ive connected the pc to a tv , and glitched stopped then ive stopped using the tv and the glitch still havent happen

why?

[wheat isle]

i swear i am going to have a mental breakdown

i cant find out why my laptop's audio just wont

ive been trying to fix it for 5 hours

[spice beacon]

@torn thicket

[wheat isle]

now i am getting audio but it keeps freezing

and it wasnt when i first got the audio working again

[wheat isle]

it is also causing my frames to drop while im on my desktop/watching yt, and it freezes my mouse

[wide schooner]

Anyone know how to fix micro tearing?

My computer does it on every game I have

[spice beacon]

Screen tearing?

[hearty trench]

In December i had been getting help here about my PC bluescreening. It was suggested to me that i remove my CMOS battery and let the BIOS reset and see if that helped. To begin with, it seemed like that had worked. I did not bluescreen again after doing that but then today after going to play farming simulator 22, right as i joined the game, my PC bluescreened again with the WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR. Prior to me joining the game, i had just been watching youtube/netflix etc. Nothing all that demanding. So I am wondering if perhaps when i go to play the game, it is pushing a certain piece of hardware that is making me bluescreen but i do not know how i can troubleshoot this to identify what is causing the error.
Can anyone recommend some troubleshooting to find if any of my hardware has an error with it that could be causing this issue?

[spice beacon]

Are you running your ram/cpu with an overclock?

[hearty trench]

No. Set to defult

[spice beacon]

Okay, download and run testmem5 extreme anta profile to test your ram,

[hearty trench]

Do you have an official site to provide that i can get it from?

[vestal ibex]

It's not really an official app to begin with. It's from some guy in Russia and looks sketchy AF but no one has found anything bad with it.

[hearty trench]

Ok well maybe an alternative way to put it is what is the best place for me to download it from that you know is a "safe" copy? 😂

[spice beacon]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

[hearty trench]

aha. I was just looking at this page actually, wondering if it was good enough. Thanks

[spice beacon]

Np

Make sure you open it, click load config and exit, select extreme anta, then reopen it

[hearty trench]

Ok so when i have done that part now. Loaded Extreme1@anta777
Relaunched it and it says "The program in compatibility mode, need to run with Administrator privileges"
I exit and then right click and run as admin and it gives a popup saying "To enable AWE, you must run with Administrator privileges"

[hearty trench]

I think the test is running now....How do i know when it is done?

Also the tests seems to be so random too...
2,2,4,12,2,5,7,1,13,2,5,13,2,8

[vestal ibex]

It'll say when it's done with a popup

Usually about 6+ hours

[dusky geyser]

dont avoid filter

[hearty trench]

Oh....sorry. Wasnt even trying to avoid any filter. Did not realise swearing was a no no here. Don't see it mentioned in rules either 🤔

[dusky geyser]

pg

[hearty trench]

Oh alright fair enough

Sorry

[hearty trench]

I was reading online about how to use the program etc and saw mention of it saying to edit the CFG file. Which i didnt actually do. Is it worth me changing anything in this?

[spice beacon]

Depends how much ram you have tbf, takes about 2hrs for 16gb, thats pretty linear scaling with other amounts

[spice beacon]

Nope ~500mb available is right

[vestal ibex]

Nah that would just be for making a custom config. Which you've already loaded.

[hearty trench]

I saw someone on reddit mention there 16GB kit took 25-30 mins but i guess mine may be different seeing as its still going at 36 mins.

[hearty trench]

Oh alright then

How many cycles does it do?

[spice beacon]

Nah, even at 3800cl14 it still takes sips like 55 mins on a 16gb kit iirc

[spice beacon]

3

Wouldn't recommend sitting and watching

[hearty trench]

That was somewhat what i was doing seeing as i didnt realise this was a slow test 😂
This thing guzzling up all my RAM like a chrome tab right now as well so i guess i can't do much else on here right now.
Apparently my CPU is at 100% right now too. Is that normal for when this runs?

[vestal ibex]

Totally normal yeah

It's a stress test for a reason

[hearty trench]

Welp...wish i didnt start running this late evening. I don't normally like to leave my PC on over night seeing as its right next to my bed and not the quietest... Guess it's staying on tonight though

[vestal ibex]

You could set an auto shutdown timer, but you'd also need a way to save results

[spice beacon]

You could probably set a timer to set a screenshot then shutdown the pc

[hearty trench]

Sounds like extra effort on something i would have to try learn right now that i dont really wanna learn tonight 😂 But worth knowing i can do that in the future though for stuff.

I wonder if my PC can still handle Netflix running while the test is going...or is it best to just do nothing with it?

[vestal ibex]

Ideally you'd leave it but hardware accelerated Netflix should be OK. Might stutter still.

[hearty trench]

Ok fair enough.
I just noticed on the test that the available has now changed to be 1135mb. Earlier on it was at 565mb. Does it free up the memory once its done checking it or something?

[vestal ibex]

It'll vary during the test. Windows might also page out inactive tasks.

[hearty trench]

Ok

Ok well cycle 1 just finished and it's 54 mins in so i guess if thats the average for it overall per cycle then that's not so bad

[wide schooner]

It'd hard to explain, in almost every game I play there's some level of tearing going on, almost like my frames cant keep up. In some games, it feels more like I'm playing at a lower hz level than what I have it set to. For example, when playing Hunt Showdown, my character will lag back for a moment before jumping up to where I would be if my frames kept up and my game feels like its running at 60 hz. Onn Rocket league, my game will stutter every so often and make it hard to play sometimes. And on Rainbow Six siege, my frames just have a hard time syncing with the movements occasionally. My computer is making every game I play not smooth at all and almost like I'm playing at 60 or 90 hz when I have everything set to 165hz. Could reinstalling windows be a solution to this?

[vestal ibex]

Do you have vsync or vrr (gsync, freesync) on?

[wide schooner]

I enable vsync in all of my games

[vestal ibex]

Does your monitor support vrr? If so leave that on and vsync off

[wide schooner]

not sure how to check that

I looked it up and don't see variable refresh rate anywhere in my settings but I turned on a setting to reduce latency and improve performance well see if that works

[river badger]

Hey can some one pls help me I’m having a problem with my new pc

[spice beacon]

!ask

[tidal lintel]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[humble sigil]

Are you definitely getting near 165 fps? If framerate is pretty far from refresh rate, gonna have tearing afaik. Sounds like typical obsolete (nornal) Vsync. At least if fps was above refresh rate instead, could simply drop extra frames or "limit" fps various ways & get good latency w/o tearing.

[wide schooner]

So limit my max framerate to 165fps?

[humble sigil]

Worth a try for sure. Ingame preferred, otherwise use Rivatuner statistics server is my go-to. Lcds & depending on software/drivers is funky. It's not like the days of a CRT at only 70-75Hz smoothly allowing as high fps as the pc can do.

[hearty trench]

Test is finished. It came back saying no errors detected

[spice beacon]

Uhh okay that's odd, should have picked up an error, what cpu and ram do you have? Also make sure to run the commands/bat file in the pins so that nothing is corrupted

[wide schooner]

I have some gameplay recorded that shows what im dealing with cause i'm having a really hard time explaining what the issue is

if anyone cares enough to look at it lol

[hearty trench]

Processor is i7-8700K
Motherboard is Asrock Z370 Pro4
Memory is TeamGroup 2x 8GB DDR4 2400 (16GB total)

No overclocking has been done

[spice beacon]

Sure upload it there

[hearty trench]

Also which bat file cos it looks like there are 2

[spice beacon]

Hmm that should be fine i can't think of why it would

[spice beacon]

Either is fine, mine just requires you to right click and run as admin, rawrs is mine but it prompts to run as admin for you

[hearty trench]

Oh alright

Ha win defender tryna block it from running

[spice beacon]

Yeah it's fine tho lol, you can search the commands if you want

[wide schooner]

My clip is too long to upload in here

[hearty trench]

Does the file keep on looping until i tell it to stop?

[spice beacon]

No

It's designed to loop one of the commands

[hearty trench]

It looks like it's running the /scanow command again

[spice beacon]

Yeah that's on purpose

[hearty trench]

Ok fair enough

[wide schooner]

Am I allowed to send you the clip you dont have to watch the whole thing Im just desperate to know what's wrong with my computer

and slightly ticked off about it at this point

[hearty trench]

Ok well it finished and found no errors....

[spice beacon]

If you can't upload it here you won't be able to upload to my dms, upload it to google drive and share the link for that mb?

[spice beacon]

I have no idea why you bsod'd then

[hearty trench]

Agghhhhh

[tidal lintel]

dbhol#6757 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hearty trench]

agh

typo -_-

I might try testmem again tommorow with everything closed down that can be seeing as it recomends you have everything shut on your PC when running the test

Tried to type shut and hit I by mistake -_-

[hearty trench]

Something else that might be worth mentioning.
When I do bluescreen, I have dual monitors. My main monitor goes blue but then my other monitor still has the programs open on it that were there. In December when it happened I'm sure that screen went blank.
Don't suppose that means anything relevant?

Also just now I decided to try again playing my game while having task manager open to see if anything spiked. The game was running longer then I had managed to stay on before and then I tried to open the internet (Firefox) and when that was loading, my pc bluescreened...🤷‍♂️

C drive went to 100% usage as well it looks like 🤔

[spice beacon]

Hmm what was the error?

[hearty trench]

The blue screen error?

It's still been a WHEA error.

In December and when it happened yesterday

Just thought it was odd that the second screen still showed whatever I last had open on it when my main one was blue screened

[spice beacon]

Like the stop code was whea ?

[hearty trench]

I assume that's the same thing as the blue screen.
It was WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR

[spice beacon]

Yeah that's what i meant when what error

Idk why you would get them tho

[hearty trench]

It shows the percentage for collecting the error as well but doesn't appear to immediately do anything. I do know if it would if I left it longer perhaps 🤷‍♂️

But yeah, I'm guessing it's not normal that my second monitor would still show the last thing that was open on it?

[hearty trench]

Are you aware of any program I can use to test if my GPU is ok and my CPU. If anything even exists.
I'm running testmem again at the moment. It's not got much longer left to go and found nothing again.
I'm gonna try the ol pull out a stick play the game and see what happens trick. But would be good to test my other hardware though

[spice beacon]

Your cpu was tested with your ram, i don't think your gpu can cause errors but furmark or occt on the gpu mode is a good shout

Try occt memory test too maybe just incase tm5 isnt catching it for some reason maybe?

[hearty trench]

Would it make any difference if I were to run them while my pc is in safe mode as well? That was another thought I had earlier on

[hearty trench]

Then means I have less running doesn't it and can help pick up the fault I guess.
I've never run my pc in safe mode before so idk if the program will even show up there either. Doesn't it just give me basic windows stuff

[spice beacon]

Shouldn't make a diff

[spice beacon]

Yeah only the essentials basically

[waxen torrent]

anyone know why my computer does this? as i highlight over the shortcuts, they get a black background, and when i highlight an area on the screen it turns into a black box too. after i took this screenshot the entire thing is now black.

[hearty trench]

Heh ok so funny confusing thing for you here.
I tried to remove 1 stick and boot with 1 stick. On bootup it bluescreened. Didn't make it to the sign in page. Tried the other stick back in its original slot with the other one out. Bluescreen. I tried both stick again in there original spots.....bluescreen

[spice beacon]

Uhhh

They're in slots 2 and 4 from left to right correct?

[hearty trench]

Correct.
Slot 1 is blank
Slot 2 occupied
Slot 3 blank
Slot 4 occupied

[hearty trench]

I also as a long shot tried to unplug a HDD in there as that's new ish to see if it changed anything and when it got plugged back in, it booted. I just unplugged it again and now it's bluescreened. Same stop code. So the fault seems to be very inconsistent

Occasionally I'll get this when I boot as well

I wonder if it's the mobo 🤔

[spice beacon]

That's correct

Hmm

Could just be already corrupted windows install then?

[hearty trench]

I've unplugged everything I can unplug from the PC apart from mouse and keyboard.
Also unplugged as many of my drives as I can.
I have 1 stick in slot 2 right now and it's still bluescreening.

I think I have Ubuntu on a flash drive. If I were to run that from the stick does Ubuntu have it's own kind of bluescreening?

[spice beacon]

Uhhhh I'm not sure tbh

Probably just crash instead

[hearty trench]

I removed ALL drives from my pc so now it technically has no OS in there. Plugge in the memory stick with Ubuntu on it and it says this when trying to boot after a bit

I tried it with 1 stick being in slot one and then tried again with it in slot 2 no difference

So I would guess based on that fault if it's doing that with Linux too then it's a hardware issue not software for sure, no?

[earnest gate]

Hard to say, make sure that secureboot is disabled in the bios.
If that doesnt work, I would recommend rebuilding the ISO on a windows box. Try rufus - had good luck with that. Or PenDriveLinux. Its possible the ISO didnt load correctly.

Or try a different flash drive if you have one. its possible that may be a problematic drive.

[hearty trench]

This iso was loaded on with Rufus previously.
I don't have another easily usable machine at this very moment in time.
I do have win10 on a stick and I have a spare 2tb m.2 never been used that I just out in so trying to install windows to that right now. Seems to be working.....so far

Secureboot is disabled also

[earnest gate]

Thats good. Diagnosing some of those issues without a second computer can be quite problematic sometimes. I have inherited many over my lifetime - most of them junk now, but they are good as backups in case of a situation like this and I just need to rip a USB drive real quick.

[hearty trench]

I do have a second PC but it's got Ubuntu running on it and hasn't been turned on for over 6 months so idk what state it will be in right now to try anything

Plus it's midnight and I don't wanna start playing with that one tonight. Tomorrow maybe, but not tonight

Fresh windows install "appears" to be working right now

[glass fable]

I got that on chrome (windows 10)

Nvm think its just the website

[glass vapor]

Hi hello! So Im building my first ever PC today and Im using old drives from my old PC and my old Laptop. My drive from the laptop already has windows 10 installed and I was wondering if I could boot from there instead of installing a fresh new OS?

If you have an answer, please ping me. I don't have any notifications on except for pings

[crisp spire]

fresh install

[glass vapor]

Can you explain why?

[crisp spire]

drivers and stuff meant for other pc can cause issues with newer hardware

[glass vapor]

Makes sense. Alright thank you :))

[spice beacon]

Yeah no idea, my guess is that it could be ram but ehh not sure

[hearty trench]

There is a pc store in the town I live and I managed to go in there this morning and borrow a 16gb stick that matches the speed of the 8gb ones I currently have.
Gonna give that stick a try with my original windows install and see what happens

[spice beacon]

Good luck

[hearty trench]

Gotta wait until after work though annoying 😩

[cinder mauve]

If I have an oem lisence windows 10, can I transfer the os and just reactivate it with a new key on the new mobo?

[heady spindle]

Most likely not

[hearty trench]

Ok I think I gotta it figured out maybe ....
I tried to boot my PC when I got home with the fresh windows install seeing as it worked yesterday.... bluescreeened.
I swapped out the ram for the 16gb stick I said about earlier today. Bluescreened.
I removed my graphics card and booted from mobo onboard graphics, bluescreened.
I'm gonna guess by that logic, it's the motherboard at fault here. Is there anything else I can do to test the motherboard and see if that really is the issue for certainly?

[spice beacon]

Make sure you link your Microsoft account

[spice beacon]

Uhh it could be but idk

[hearty trench]

Seems to be very inconsistent....it's booting to desktop now -_-

[spice beacon]

I'm not sure tbh sorry ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hearty trench]

Aghh. Okie doke. No worries.
I appreciate all the help you have given regardless though. Been very helpful even if we didn't fully get to the bottom of it

[cinder mauve]

If I do, is that a yes?

[worn marlin]

im not sure if this is software related or not but my downloads are super slow, anyone know why?

[spice beacon]

It should

[spice beacon]

Depends on your download speed and your drive speed

[worn marlin]

the task manager screenshot is to show that my drive isnt slowing down the download process, and network test is about 21 mbps download

if this means anything while im downloading mods in games it is also super slow so it isnt edge

im no expert

[spice beacon]

21mbps is pretty slow

[crisp spire]

mbps isnt equal to MB/s
also the server might be slow

either way its definitely internet speed limited

[charred kernel]

So I bought these two laptops from the university surplus/salvage store. They have a windows sticker underneath them, and a random guy there thought they might have a windows license like, embedded in the computer itself. In the chips or something. Is there any way this might be correct? Cause otherwise we’re gonna be using windows unactivated

[humble sigil]

Perhaps just doesn't have the usual key sticker. Gotta turn em on to find out.

[charred kernel]

Hmm ok

(Hard drives come Friday)

[spice beacon]

Windows unactivated but sometimes they're stored on the mobo kinda somehow, it should auto activate if it is tho

[charred kernel]

It will be so cool if they are, maybe it’s like a tpm thing

But I mean, how bad can unactivated be xD

[spice beacon]

No difference apart from the watermark that I'm pretty sure you can get rid of with reg edit and having to right click images to set as background instead of in settings

[charred kernel]

Not worried about it

As long as I can use that script to unbloat it I’ll be happy

And my non techie brother would be happy with a toaster with a monitor soo

[wicked orchid]

I've been just dealing with it for several weeks now, I started to look into finding my old licenses and just couldn't. I will probably disable it once I get my Windows machine back up and running.

[sleek plover]

i fell asleep in my chair with my desktop background set to the image i made and i woke up 45 minutes later and now it looks like windows 11? i lost all background images and the taskbar now looks like windows 11? i checked my system info and it didnt update in the time i slept! it still says windows 10? i am so so so lost

anyone got a clue of whats going on? i got great paid protection so it cant be a hack.

[spice beacon]

Sounds like someone is pranking you to me

[charred kernel]

Do you have siblings?

Or friends

And have you made it known that you hate win 11 before?

[wicked orchid]

They are probably vaccinated. I heard Win11 upgrades were an unfortunate side effect.

[charred kernel]

What, a tpm chip?

Lol

[wicked orchid]

Don't get me wrong, I think it is a perfectly reasonable trade-off. I'd rather Win11 than die.

[charred kernel]

I’d rather die

But see, I got the Pfizer, so my side effect was installing Linux instead. So who knows

[crisp spire]

I love win 11

Grrrr

[wraith sage]

Is Johnson and Johnson ios?

[spice beacon]

do you have a fix for the right click taskbar being crappy on win 11?

[wicked orchid]

Death. Works every time.

[crisp spire]

What do ya mean?

Task manager from taskbar?

Only way to do that is to right click the windows icon now

[spice beacon]

this ickyness

[vital spade]

Does 11 still have performance issues with ryzen

[spice beacon]

it used to, think its fixed now but i dont really like win 11, no feature worth upgrading for unless youre on 12th gen intel

[wicked orchid]

I am getting ready to build my 12 gen intel. What is the Win 11 benefit?

[spice beacon]

it can schedule the e cores properly, if going 12400 tho or something windows 10 should actually be okay

[crisp spire]

Oh you cant change that

Unless maybe startallback

The app

[spice beacon]

Ew

[wicked orchid]

12600K

Any idea why my messages sometimes sit greyed out, then turn white, or sometimes disappear instead?

[crisp spire]

Messages on?

Discord?

[wicked orchid]

Discord

[crisp spire]

Gray means its sending

White means its sent

Disappear means its deleted

[wicked orchid]

Just seems random, but sometimes they sit there grey for an extended period.

[spice beacon]

Then you want winn11

[spice beacon]

That means your signal bad lol

[crisp spire]

That means they havent been sent yet

[wicked orchid]

I'm hardwired.

Rural area though.

But usually no issues.

[crisp spire]

Connection type carries not much significance btw

[narrow arrow]

should i upgrade to windows 11

[spice beacon]

Nah

[hearty trench]

Is it normal for 1 core to be under more load then any of the others. Core 6 seems to be over 50% but then the others are 15% or below

I ran a CPU test on OCCT

[humble sigil]

Prime95 for stress, cinebench for bench

[spice beacon]

Cinebench isn't great as a bench imo

It's fine tho

Occt is good for stress too

[humble sigil]

Yea, pic clearly shows occt done but somethings are simply using part of 1 core only. 👍

[hearty trench]

Yeah i knew the test was done but youre saying that there is nothing wrong with there being a high usage on 1 core?

[humble sigil]

Correct. 50% on 1 core would be like 16% usuage spread over the whole cpu , lol (in my mind)

[flat pawn]

sorry guys but

is Windows 11 worth it?

should i upgrade?

or stay on Windows 10?

[crisp spire]

no one can answer that for you

[flat pawn]

alright 😂

[humble sigil]

I am, but I only "upgraded" from Win7 about a month ago. Win11 isn't much more than a re-skin, and it's pretty dang new. Good for 12gen Intel cpus that have the E-cores though.

[delicate onyx]

So you'll notice that one or two of your cores will always be used more than the others. Both AMD and Intel will have a favored core(s) that will always try to take the single threaded tasks

[hearty trench]

Ok that's good to know, thank you.
My PC has been bluescreening with a WHEA error so I've just been trying to see if I can narrow it down. That seemed like a chance if it wasn't normal

[delicate onyx]

Whea uncorrectable error is caused by a hardware malfunction that prevents windows critical functions and can't be automatically corrected

It is most likely CPU, but can also be ram or motherboard related (socket or power delivery fail)

Is your CPU overclocked?

[hearty trench]

NOT pato had been helping me with trying to resolve it over the space of a week ish but couldn't quite narrow it down all the way.
I ran testmem5 as recommended and this flagged no errors. I also tried different RAM sticks as I was able to borrow some and this didn't make a difference. Still bluescreened. I removed the GPU and booted from onboard graphics. Bluescreened.
I feel like it is narrowed down to mobo and CPU but just want to try be 100%. No the CPU isn't overclocked.
The fault seems to be intermittent though because now the PC doesn't seem to be doing it.
Originally I was able to be watching YouTube Netflix etc with no issue. Then I started playing a game and not long into starting (a few minutes if that) I would bluescreen.
I have 2 sticks of RAM at 8gb each. I tried to pull out one of them and boot and I bluescreened on boot which didn't happen before. I swapped the sticks over and it did it again. Then I put both in and it did it again.
After stripping the PC to the bare minimum and even using a fresh windows install that it did do it on, and then adding things back 1 at a time it now seems to not be doing it anymore....

[delicate onyx]

What CPU do you have btw?

Is it by chance intel 10th/11th?

[hearty trench]

i7-8700k

[delicate onyx]

Huh, that's very strange

Have you tried doing slight bumps to vcore?

[hearty trench]

Processor is i7-8700K
Motherboard is Asrock Z370 Pro4
Memory is TeamGroup 2x 8GB DDR4 2400 (16GB total)

No overclocking has been done
The main 3 bits

[delicate onyx]

It's possible your CPU has degraded to where you can't keep turbo clock on spec vcore

But that usually only happens to really old chips

I'm talking like i7 2600k and older

[hearty trench]

PC is a couple years old but it's not insanely old.
Think it built it in 2018 or something like that

[delicate onyx]

2017 CPU shouldn't be have degradation problems if it hasn't been overclocked

And before 10th gen Mobo makers weren't stuffing extra vcore to get longer boost power

[hearty trench]

Ya never been overclocked before. Never bothered with it never wanted to risk the trouble tbh

I've never messed with any of the VCORE stuff before either

[delicate onyx]

It started having this issue recently?

[hearty trench]

It did it before Christmas a few times. It was recommended I try remove the CMOS battery and insert again to which I did. This appeared like it fixed the issue. I then went away over Christmas so the pc wasn't used for 3 weeks. When I got back again I was just YouTube and Netflix watching. Nothing intensive and then started playing farm sim 22 and the first time I booted it about 30 seconds to joining the server I bluescreened. Booted back up and joined again and it did it again.
Following this is when I turn pulled the PC apart and did all the stuff above that I mentioned

[delicate onyx]

Okay that narrows it down

Those are heavier workloads

So I think it's either the CPU degrading and can't keep up with stock vcore

Or the Mobo power delivery failing or overheating

You've confirmed CPU wasn't overheating yes?

[hearty trench]

I assume I've found that it's not because I've run testmem5 that does the CPU. I've run furmark which has a CPU burner and I've run occt as you saw when you replied to me. Nothing bluescreened when those were running

I've tried playing the game again since and haven't been able to bluescreen

So it's very intermittent

[delicate onyx]

Wait

You said it was blue screening without GPU installed?

[hearty trench]

I can't actually remember now tbh.
I think it did yes

[delicate onyx]

Alright

[hearty trench]

I'm pretty sure it did

[delicate onyx]

I think it's a power delivery issue to your CPU, that's usually what causes whea errors

It's usually not having enough vcore to be stable

The only issue with raising vcore to see if it's cpu needing more voltage due to degradation is that if it's your motherboard CPU power delivery failing, it's just going to stress the power delivery more

Your CPU could also just be faulty but that's kind of rare for a CPU to fail without degrading first if it doesn't fail soon after installation

Could also be power supply related screwing up cpu

Did you upgrade any components like GPU since you built the machine?

[hearty trench]

Only key things that I've changed are the AIO cooler. Changed the case and added more drives over time

Other then that, all the same

[delicate onyx]

AIOs pull more power but not enough for me to be worried

Rare chance it can also be a drive going out and sending bad data to CPU then getting confused when it gets what it asked for back

In practice whea from a drive going out is rare though

Have you tried using a fresh windows install on another drive? It can be temporary just to see if it blue screens

That could help us narrow down what hardware is failing

We know that it can't be Ram or GPU. Whea is caused by hardware malfunction

[hearty trench]

Yes I did.
I had a spare M.2 that I bought a while back. I removed my original M.2 with windows on it and installed new windows on the brand new drive that had never been used before and it did it.
It let me install windows but after install I did a shut down and then on start up it did it

Before I upgraded my AIO, I already had a different AIO installed as well so it's not like I've gone from an air cooler to an AIO. The machine has had one since I built it

[charred kernel]

@spice beacon I’m getting ready to install windows. Should I just use the normal way with the startup disk creator or another way? I’m doing win. 10. The reason I’m asking is because of the debloating script

[spice beacon]

Just regular windows media creation tool, then run the powershell command

[charred kernel]

Okie thanks

[spice beacon]

Np

[hearty trench]

So idk if this could be any use to you after our discussion today.
I've just been playing my game and managed to bluescreen again. On my second monitor I had gpu-z and task manager running to see if there was anything specific that happened.

[humble sigil]

11.9v isn't great but the 11.7 on the 8pin is what really stands out to me. For reference, all mine are at least 12v, & often closer to 12.1
Sure seems mostly like a power or psu issue. Which psu? drives use 3v or 5v, not 12v so at least those probably are not a factor

[hearty trench]

As an extra thing, i do use these cable extensions for my mobo. They have been in for a little while though. Like way before the bluescreening started but figured it was worth a mention. But at the same time, im sur i tested the PC without these in there and it still did it but cant fully remember now
http://www.phanteks.com/Extension-Cables.html

PSU is .... good question

[delicate onyx]

That might actually be your culprit

It seems your CPU isn't getting the power it wants, which may be bad power delivery to the Mobo itself

[humble sigil]

Is there an extension on the 8pin gpu cable?

[hearty trench]

Evolabs Cronus modular 80 plus bronze 750W is the PSU

Yes there is an extension on the 8-pin

[humble sigil]

1st thing to try is no extension for the gpu. Bet that alone might help the 11.7v issue, & possibly eliminate the recent crashes

[delicate onyx]

It's not the GPU chillen

[hearty trench]

For the GPU? Do you mean CPU. I thought 8-pin was the little one on the motherboard

[delicate onyx]

We've gone to just integrated graphics

Ah you have a CPU extension?

Definitely should try without the CPU extension

May have to completely un plug everything and run your PSU outside of your case to test if cables don't reach

[hearty trench]

Extension on the 24-pin, 8-pin and whatever the GPU is
All 3 of those cables. The 2 into the mobo and the 1 into the GPU

[humble sigil]

This is the gpu cable, even if it's actually a 6pin. Idk, all I can think of. Cpu was under light load in the pic

[hearty trench]

Lemme try it without the extensions and I'll get back to you

[humble sigil]

I know that I don't like seeing any voltage below 12, lol.

[soft python]

Hi. I am absolutely unable to get into bios so I can enable tpm. After hitting ueifi restart, my pc just restarts. And it restarts slower than usual too. It just takes me back to the user sign-in screen. No bios. Any idea?

[hearty trench]

So I've plugged in the stock cables with no extensions in.
These are the current readings while my PC is actually on and not bluescreened

The thing I find funny is that the game I'm playing is on the F drive but that has no usage 🤔

Like idk if that's a standard thing at all. Not saying that's part of the issue. Just seemed weird

[humble sigil]

Ssd is fast & many games don't access a drive all that much while playing. Notice you have 12.1 & 11.9v for the gpu now. Idk if it's the fix but that's a lot better than 11.7v before. Cpu load was light so to test that instead you can do cinebench even if it's not a pure stresstest like prime95 or occt.

[hearty trench]

That's kinda maddening if it is the extensions. Now my PC be looking a little ugly again

[humble sigil]

https://www.maxon.net/en/downloads/cinebench-r23-downloads

well it might've been the cpu extension also, but I'm thinking just the gpu extension was the main issue and there various choices if you really wanted to keep using extensions. They shouldn't drop voltage this much usually.

[hearty trench]

8 pin is reading 12V or more now

Do I wanna run a test for CPU multi core or single core?

[humble sigil]

multi core

[hearty trench]

Never used cinebench before

[humble sigil]

It's 1 of the simplest programs to use, all we hit is the start button . Single core of course takes almost 4 times as long but is more for showing how different generations compare.

[hearty trench]

So it seems

Ok so the test is running and the 8 pin is going down to 11.9 sometimes but typically sticking at 12+

[humble sigil]

well the 8pin spot on gpuz is gpu. we'd look at hwinfo64 for cpu cable voltage perhaps (I forget what it would be listed as). Here's my gpuz pic for reference. 12.2 might be on the "high" side, but I never see below 12.00v. 11.9 as minimum is definitely fine in my opinion.

[hearty trench]

I can download that as well I suppose. I already got a whole family of software going at the moment

Which one?

[humble sigil]

local us probably. It's just where (how fast) it DL's.

[humble sigil]

I've got a stop watch going on the single core cinebench test haha

[hearty trench]

IDK if this shows what you want. It's just what came up on launch

[humble sigil]

wow, nice drive collection. ok, right click the tray icon and hit sensors if it's not already up somewhere

[hearty trench]

That's not even all the drives thats the sad part 😂 I unplugged them all during testing and didnt plug them all back in yet

The tray icon?

[humble sigil]

by where the clock is bottom right.

looks like this

[hearty trench]

Ok yeah got that....it's alotta stuff

[humble sigil]

Closing thing I'm finding for me is. Probably should've had hwinfo in the background when running cinebench, but oh well. idle voltage says a lot also

[hearty trench]

Where is that under. The motherboard bit?

[humble sigil]

yep, or just scan around and try to find "+12V" somewhere.

[hearty trench]

I can run cinebench again if needed. Its done now

[humble sigil]

12.48 max seems on the high side, but at least it's not below 12v. would be neat to use the cpu extension and recheck. especially w/ cinebench or a similar load running. So far I'm thinking the gpu extension was the main issue.

[hearty trench]

Ok i can shut down the PC and plug in the 8-pin on the motherboard and see what happens

If nothing then i will unplug that and then plug in the GPU one and see what happens

[humble sigil]

Yeah let's hit this button and rerun cinebench w/ hwinfo running. This button resets the sensor info.

[hearty trench]

Oh re run now before i try the extensions again?

[humble sigil]

sure, then just cpu extension 1st. Also I found the single core test takes 15+ minutes for me haha.

[hearty trench]

Yikes

[trail gale]

Uhhh idk if I can ask for help here

[humble sigil]

sure, or certain other threads if they're more applicable. Might have to wait for smarter people also.

[trail gale]

So...I'm trying to turn on Secure Boot

And TPM 2.0

But it's not working

It keeps mentioning the UEFI Graphics GOP

[humble sigil]

Sorry, me = not big 🧠 about that stuff. TPM 2.0 can be wonky. Also I've heard secure boot is often unhelpful and/or unneeded.

[trail gale]

Valorant won't run without it

Just have the Anticheat in the game not having to connect to the Computer ffs.

[hearty trench]

cinebench has run and this was the end result

Looks normal it would seem

[trail gale]

Configured it. I flashed the CMOS.

[humble sigil]

Those all look pretty fine. cpu extension time I'd say (then run cinebench), then later add gpu extension and do 3dmark or a couple games.

[hearty trench]

Oh 3d mark. There's another one I don't have to add to the family

[humble sigil]

I think my mobo 12v sensor or frozen or something. Last time I crashed was just messing around w/ ram OC and maxing out the cpu turbo at below stock Vcore, so no biggie.

[hearty trench]

Oh dear

[humble sigil]

Oh what'd you get on cinebench vs the 7700K that says 6302?

[hearty trench]

7845 I think.
That looks like the one from when I ran it last

[humble sigil]

That's a good increase. update on using the cpu extension?

[hearty trench]

It just finished

Appears to be fine

[humble sigil]

Indeed. perhaps run 3dmark or a game quick because they use some gpu w/ cpu, before checking w/ gpu extension also. Here's the voltages for gpu in hwinfo btw

[hearty trench]

My ones

3d mark is paid for software...didn't really wanna go buying anything

[humble sigil]

oh you can get the demo on steam if you felt like it, or a certain in-game benchmark would be better than just playing certain games.

[hearty trench]

The only gamei have installed right now is farming sim 22 😂
My game drive died recently and havent got a new one yet

[humble sigil]

Oof, haha. Which psu btw? I'm feeling it's either not fantastic, and/or we just need better extensions (might have to not use the gpu extension).

[hearty trench]

this one

You asked earlier 😛

I dont this this PSU itself is probably that great when i look at it now. I didnt really know what i was choosing when i built the machine 🤔

Damn my internet slow

taking so long to installl

Is that PSU as bad as i think it might be?

[humble sigil]

well it's not on any tier lists I know of, but for now perhaps ok w/ that 1060. I'd say definitely dodge the gpu extension also. New psu is probably a good idea in the future before GPU upgrade and such though. Pato is one around here who is great at hunting down good components. Phanteks Amp or Bitfenix for $60ish a just a couple I currently think of.

[hearty trench]

Why dodge the extension? Don't want me to do the test then to see what the volt shows?

[humble sigil]

we saw the volts earlier I think, but you could try it to confirm.

[hearty trench]

I guess for my own peace of mind ill do it

Ok 3d mark installed. Time to add the GPU cable back

[humble sigil]

3dmark generally does 100% gpu usage for much of the test(s), so we'll confirm soon enough that at least the extension isn't kosher.

[hearty trench]

Test is still running but yeahhhh

I'm surprised this test isn't making me bluescreen

[hearty trench]

Soooo it be looking like the cable then

[humble sigil]

Yep, I'd say so when the min on gpu 8pin for instance is 11.75ish instead of at least 11.9 w/ only stock cable. Also I wouldn't oc the cpu much if at all because I learned that the "12v" spot under Motherboard should be pretty stable actually. That's why mine seems frozen at 12.24 w/e it was lol.

[hearty trench]

Didn't plan to overclock so it's all good 😂

I removed the GPU extension again and plugged in stock and it's at this now soooo.
I know we saw it before but I just wanted to check for sure on it 🤷‍♂️

Oh wait

No

It's under again

[humble sigil]

oh make sure to hit that sensor reset button to make sure.

[hearty trench]

Yeah ima start the test again cos I don't remember if I did

I definitely reset it this time and this is the numbers while 3d mark is running

11.6 now

That's a snazzy curve ball then

Maybe I'll try swapping out the actual stock cable incase that's an issue?

[humble sigil]

oof, yeah not a fan of all the 11.7ish stuff. You could, but unfortunately I doubt it's just the stock one and more likely almost psu-hunting time. Good news is Pato among others here a great at finding or knowing european deals.

[hearty trench]

I need me a UK deal 😝

[humble sigil]

quoted screenshot above could also be posted in the cases and psu thread. Sorry, UK/europe both foreign to me.

[hearty trench]

Final result from the test

Those silly foreign people over there 😝

Welp fair enough then.
What will be beneficial about pairing that screenshot then?

[humble sigil]

Showing people another reason you might need a good psu besides just saying "help me pick a new psu", lol. Also here's the columns I use for hwinfo. Doesnt matter , but it's funny how much we can change in this app. Hmm, actually average might be useful sometimes.

[hearty trench]

I kinda wanna try and make my PC bluescreen running on stock cables 🤔. But this is where I find it won't do it now or something because it's so intermittent.
Like why didn't I bluescreen while running those tests?

[humble sigil]

hmm, could try both cables and run 3dmark 3+ times in a row. 1060 being low wattage is "helping" not bsod as much I bet, lol. Your recent max was 117W and my 1080 would be 160W even undervolted. (250w peak when oc'd)

[hearty trench]

Looks like they are already that at default on mine plus the average

I'm running my PC on fully stock cables now.
Think it would make a difference if I plugged the cable into a different port on the PSU or not really?

[humble sigil]

Doubtful, but actually possible. The overall performance/quality of that psu is an unknown w/o an actual review.

[hearty trench]

😂great. Trust me to have that one thing that's just got nothing about it anywhere

[humble sigil]

ikr, I mean 4 reviews on amazon-UK oh well, just don't upgrade anything before psu i guess.

[hearty trench]

I moved the cable to the other port on the PSU just to see if it's any different. I guess if I'm gonna test I might as well be sure

Yup other port is showing the same issue. Below 12v

My one last test even though it's futile. Trying a different cable in there as well

[hearty trench]

Sooo swapping the cable for another one I haven't used before gives a min of 20v.
For some reason 3D mark keeps telling me I cancelled the test at the end of the first segment when I didn't so haven't been able to do a full one yet

[humble sigil]

Now that's a much b etter range. If the min on any of those stays above 11.9 at least then I'm more content.

[hearty trench]

End result

Didn't go below 12

[humble sigil]

creepy gif, lol.

[hearty trench]

Still probably worth me replacing the PSU anyway I guess. I would like to upgrade the GPU eventually.....when the world isn't so mashed up

Thank you for all of the help you've given me to find the issue. Very much appreciated

Gonna get that cable goneeeee now

Would it still be worth me using that screenshot you said abot before that shows the voltage of not worth it now seeing as it's found to be the cable?

[humble sigil]

I'd show people a before and after. Also, what does the "12v" under mobo spot say now? current/min/max/average shouldn't be a huge variation.

[hearty trench]

Current 12.288v
Min 12.096v
Max 12.480v
Average 12.284v

[humble sigil]

The spikes alone would look bad but the average/current seem ok for now. Others might say otherwise and just start psu searching now 😅

[hearty trench]

You thinking it's on its way out then from the numbers you've seen?

[humble sigil]

No idea, could've had numbers like this for most of it's life. One of the techie/mods could give a better definite answer for sure.

I just did BenchMate w/ an older cinebench version and finally got my min 12v reading to not be exactly 12.24

[hearty trench]

So it's a software bug then?

With cinebench?

[humble sigil]

idk, my psu is a evga G3 & known to be a pretty good one. the lone 12v sensor under the mobo section is supposed to be pretty steady I've been told.

[dusky isle]

Yo, why is Ubuntu getting left out? Lol

[graceful bramble]

What?

[hearty trench]

Left out of what? 🤔

[last gorge]

#linux-and-android

[silver whale]

randomly got this memory management

haven't had a bluescreen for 2 years

anyone know what I could do to stress test all my memory?

i've updated my gpu driver to the newest one

[spice beacon]

Test mem5 extreme anta profile

[sick nest]

Anyone that uses windows 11?

[humble sigil]

[crisp spire]

meeeeeeeeeee

[sick nest]

Is it good for gaming?

[crisp spire]

dunno i like the ui lol

its better on some games and not for others

i didnt test between versions tho

so eh

[sick nest]

Oh ok thanks

[tough hinge]

need advice/suggestions. currently have a 1TB nvme ssd with windows legacy installed on it. i want to switch to windows UEFI. really dont want to redownload/install everything, so is it possible to install windows 10 UEFI on a new NVME (maybe 256gb) and then uninstall windows on the current 1TB without losing all of my stuff i have on it?

[tough hinge]

or am i just better off backing up what i want/need and then wiping the drive and starting fresh?

[vestal ibex]

Why do you want to switch to uefi? There's not many reasons for an average user.
The best way is going to be backing up and reinstalling. You'll have to reinstall either way.
Alternatively, you can install windows in uefi mode on the new drive and use the old 1tb drive for data storage. You can just delete the windows folder on the old drive. You'd still be reinstalling this way too, though.

[tough hinge]

i'd like to upgrade to windows 11 but having my current windows 10 as legacy is currently preventing me from doing that

[vestal ibex]

Upgrade installs are bad. You'll likely lose performance. Just install 11 fresh with your linked Microsoft account and you won't even need to activate.

You'll also need to enable tpm and secure boot mode in bios, and probably disable csm

[tough hinge]

and that alternative way you suggested of installing on a new drive and deleting windows from the original drive is the way i'd like to go but i just wasn't sure how it all works. will the computer just automatically recognize it as just a storage drive?

[tough hinge]

gone through that stuff already. last thing i need to do is the legacy vs uefi

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, once you install and boot on the new drive the old one will just be there ready to use. You can tell the new os to use your old library folders and it should redirect most things to the old drive.

[tough hinge]

despite changing all the settings in the bios, the computer doesnt recognize the secure boot because i'm currently running windows in legacy mode.

i also like the idea of having a dedicated ssd for just windows and the other ssd for storage

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, you'll need to disable the csm mode so it's in uefi only mode before you go to install the new os.

This will make the old os unable to boot until you enable csm again

[tough hinge]

ok, thanks for your input

[ember seal]

So me and my friend are useing my computer like a console but its only letting us use 1 user at a time

Im thinking its a windows thing were u can only use one account at a time?

How whould i fix this?

[vestal ibex]

VM with driver passthrough, which works best with amd gpu but can be done on nvidia

[ember seal]

We both can play but only roblox since i have 2 versions of it on my account

Ok

Wait no its already working as 2

But we can only use my computer log in

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, the VM acts like a different computer running on the same system

[ember seal]

Once one of us logs in all other accounts on my computer are locked

So we can both use it but we are both on my account and so only one of us can use a app at a time

Im already useing aster to split it

But windows wont let us use diferent accounts

And if i am useing crome he cant and if im in Minecraft and he oppens it we both get closed out

[vestal ibex]

Well with games like minecraft that require paid accounts, it'll only let you run one instance

[ember seal]

Since the account lock happens at the log in screen im asuming its Windows

[vestal ibex]

Steam has a workaround with family profiles

[ember seal]

No like he has one and when he logged in it logged me out

Because it wont let us use diferent computer user accounts

[vestal ibex]

And a virtual machine should stop that, because it's like having multiple computers in one

[ember seal]

Yes but it wont let the second computer sign into the a different user than the first computer

[vestal ibex]

One host computer can run a number of guest computers equal to the number of processor cores minus one at the same time

[ember seal]

Im useing regular windows

Yah it runs multiple computers just fine

[vestal ibex]

Think of it like it's 2 different computers, each with their own users

[ember seal]

But since it only lets us use one account at a time it wont let us use the exact same apps at the same time

Ok look

It only lets us use one user account at a time even tho they are separated

[vestal ibex]

Exactly
Because that's only one computer

[ember seal]

Its not???

Its already split

[vestal ibex]

Aster works similar to a VM but not quite the same

[ember seal]

Ok

So its not windows?

[vestal ibex]

A vm is a totally separate computer inside of another computer

It can still be windows

[ember seal]

Does windows have a thing were regular cant have multiple accounts used at once on one key?

[vestal ibex]

Windows technically doesn't need to have a key at all. You just might get a watermark on your screen.

[ember seal]

How do i get the second one on a different user?

[vestal ibex]

You simply install windows on the virtual machine like you would normally on a new computer

[ember seal]

No idea how to do that

[fringe comet]

How do I get windows to stop asking for my admin password when my son tries to use a game launcher on his account?

[ember seal]

It takes me straight to win10 on second

[vestal ibex]

You can either upgrade his account to admin or disable the security warnings

[fringe comet]

I don’t want to upgrade his account, I was hoping there was a way to specify which programs required authorization.

[vestal ibex]

Not any way that I'm aware of

If the launcher requires permissions but the game doesn't you could bypass the launcher and load the game directly

Then you only need to load the launcher once a week or so

[ember seal]

Windows 10 only allow one concurrent user log on

just googled it

[humble sigil]

Hey Fal, is there a quick/simple way to not need my "pin" when booting and/or coming out of hiber/sleep? Win10 pro. Any similar ideas welcome. go straight to desktop. Not sure where to disable the pin

[fringe comet]

Thx Fal’Cie. His mother knows my password so she’ll just have to do it for him when I’m not home.

[ember seal]

is there a way to upgrade windows so it would let us use difrent accounts?

[vestal ibex]

There's 2 ways actually. Netplwiz and group policy editor.
Gpedit is easier since you're on pro. Win+R, gpedit.msc, navigate to computer configuration >administrative templates >system >logon, double click "don't display the getting started welcome screen at logon", click enabled, ok, and close it all out.

[vestal ibex]

Only server allows that. Virtual machines are the workaround for this basic windows limitation.

[ember seal]

how do i get it to let me into splash on second workspace?

[vestal ibex]

You'd load up your VM program, virtualbox for example, and tell it to start the OS. It then loads the OS like it's a different computer.

Once it loads, the login screen comes up.

[ember seal]

im in aster tho

[humble sigil]

Fal. Awesome, thnx. I'll try that later after my monthly pc dusting

[vestal ibex]

This is screenshot from my computer running a virtual machine installing windows while windows is running on the host. Yes I have 2 monitors, it makes these things so much easier.

[blissful folio]

can someone help me with my pc

[vestal ibex]

With what problem exactly?

!ask

[tidal lintel]

https://dontasktoask.com/