overclocking

[humble jay]

It works well enough though

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/205263-rocket-lake-5-ghz-32m-lcc/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-593434

@worldly wasp

[worldly wasp]

ty ser

idk if i want to compete

i'll just take the points ig

[bleak sable]

I really need a reset switch now damn

[proven canopy]

$5 on amazon for a 2 pack, lol

[lavish tundra]

Clear cmos switch?

[bleak sable]

Yeah

[bleak sable]

I have it

I just don’t want to take my gpu out to install it

[lavish tundra]

I just put the case reset button to the clear cmos jumpers

[bleak sable]

I just have to slide it on the cmos pins

But the cmos pins are covered

I know what I’m doing rawr lol

[lavish tundra]

The case reset button is useless anyway tbh

[bleak sable]

I don’t have a case reset btw

[lavish tundra]

F

Case reset button to clear cmos best

[bleak sable]

I have a literal button

I just need to take my@gpu out

Maybe when I move

I might clear my loop and take out gpu whole transporting

So then I might add it

[proven canopy]

Did you hard line?

[bleak sable]

No

[proven canopy]

Before/after, m9a coffee mod.
https://i.imgur.com/NWh598c.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/V6vD1OL.jpeg

[wheat lintel]

…what on the hell is that on the left

[proven canopy]

I did the mod on the left with a much larger iron, lead free solder, no magnification 3 years ago.

[wheat lintel]

That makes a lot more sense

[bleak sable]

Lol

Who did it

[proven canopy]

https://www.twitch.tv/forks__oc
Pentium E2200 on liquid nitrogen

[proven canopy]

Chasing another ycruncher https://i.imgur.com/78utmxc.png

[proven canopy]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4851508_forks_y_cruncher___pi_1b_ryzen_threadripper_3970x_12sec_906ms

[zenith palm]

Nice you got the 1st place spot

[dull ginkgo]

Nice cup

[proven canopy]

I wish there was more ycruncher competition, it only got global points a year ago, but so few people run it

I posted that score in a few other discords hoping it'll encourage some 3970x folks to run it

[dull ginkgo]

Wonder if benchmate becoming more popular and with more benches will help with getting more competition in all of the benches

[proven canopy]

The sub is with pbo, but easy to beat the score on safe daily volts with fixed core https://i.imgur.com/ycKvOyV.png

[dull ginkgo]

Good ram though

[proven canopy]

gnasher ran 4533, I just couldn't get that stable with any timings, I only really have two good 8GB b-die sticks

[dull ginkgo]

I assume tr runs crap on dual channel?

[proven canopy]

No, 2 ranks/channel is better, but I wanted to beat the score on 4x8

Was trying to do it at 4.0 core, but gave up

For now

[dull ginkgo]

Fair

[proven canopy]

What is that screenshot lol https://hwbot.org/submission/4852070_ @modern walrus

nvm, it's not your top sub, just saw it in the submission history, assumed it was because it's the most recent

[modern walrus]

I was trying to find a program on benchmate that when I went to go do the submission for 3d mark (port royal) it would fill in all the hardware info for me

[proven canopy]

Just click "use previous submission hardware"

[modern walrus]

well the other thing is I'm using just PBO not 4.7 all core on 5900x

& I didn't wanna annoy you (obviously that failed) by putting the wrong crap

the three options are use XTU, prepopulate fields by previous submission, or manual

I hit the 2d one

[proven canopy]

If pbo autofills the clock speed, it's not a big deal to just leave it

[modern walrus]

oh damn okay I'm overthinking like usual

I do need to fill out memory disk & PSU tho right?

[proven canopy]

Some benches, you can't use the "previous sub" option, e.g. x265

[proven canopy]

No, and remember, you can just look at recent subs from the top 10 folks

[modern walrus]

I hope once I get this one done that all subsequent 3dmark submissions will just be on these specs

for 3d mark don't you have to do the manual submission?

[proven canopy]

Maybe there's a way to sub from the 3dmark page?

[modern walrus]

by which I mean this

oh is there? let me go look on there

You can submit directly online from 3dmark.com, but only for TimeSpy, not port royal. I'm going to submit a timespy & see if I can transfer that info over to port royal

[proven canopy]

Another on water over two guys on ln2 https://hwbot.org/submission/4852252_forks_hwbot_x265_benchmark___1080p_ryzen_threadripper_3970x_296.845_fps

[zenith palm]

damm

[proven canopy]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4852356_forks_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_ryzen_threadripper_3970x_73.725_fps

[proven canopy]

h2o > ln2

[sudden torrent]

Forks has that magic water

[proven canopy]

I had the window open, but it was only like 15c outside. Still helped keep water temp down a bit. 30c max or so

[zenith palm]

I read this as ho2

[humble jay]

[proven canopy]

Lol, yeah, I remember that

[proven canopy]

Trying to hit that 💯 https://i.imgur.com/J3LGURt.png

[proven canopy]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4853588_forks_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_ryzen_threadripper_3990x_101.672_fps

[storm wedge]

is nvidia performance tunning safe?

[zenith palm]

An automatic overclock thingy? Honestly better to do it yourself, they don't stress test it very hard usually so it could be an unstable oc

Nothing you can't do in msi afterburner in 1 minute

[sudden torrent]

Nvidia also tends to be very conservative on the memory overclock

It gave me +200 when I tested it, I can game on +1200 lol

[storm wedge]

that atleast means its safe

[lavish tundra]

Not necessarily

[proven nova]

overclocking my gpu, where do i start

[zenith palm]

Msi afterburner

[proven nova]

pretty simple from there?

[zenith palm]

Slide the power limit all the way, start with +100 core +600 mem, then +15 incremets on core

Until crash

Then go back 15

[proven nova]

uhhh

[zenith palm]

Then +50 on mem til crash

Then -25 until stable

Use 3d mark timespy to stress

[proven nova]

so are there any presets already for certain gpus?

and any downsides for overclocking other than killing the parts longevity

[zenith palm]

No

[proven nova]

[zenith palm]

It won't kill your parts, heat

[proven nova]

i got a good amount of fans and good case for ig good air flow, but my room tends to get hot cause its kinda small and i have a big setup

[zenith palm]

I legit just told you what to do, you can't have a preset for an overclock because it's different for every card

[proven nova]

nah i know

should i increase my fan speeds if i overclock

like for the whole pc

[zenith palm]

See if it's hotter than you care for increasing gpu fan alone should do lol

[proven nova]

cause i got a total of 12 fans if you include my gpu fans

[sterile flame]

is there a guide for ram oc subtimings

[lavish tundra]

[sterile flame]

OH thanks

[short otter]

If all of a certain gpu could have a preset, the manufacturer would make said gpu just have a higher boost clock... Some gpus won't even be able to go any higher.

[short otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupiPZybyBE

[sudden torrent]

Interesting, not as much degradation as we might have thought at 1.45v
https://youtu.be/ZAww0c2m-ks

[sterile flame]

needed that

[sterile flame]

i have a total of 18 fans
12 of them are not in my pc at the moment

[modern walrus]

I was about to paste that exact video lol

wish they did 5900x also. oh well

wish I could get 4.7ghz at 1.26v. He's using vcore as the measurement. Is that the same as SVI2?

[sterile flame]

i got 4.625ghz@1.25v on my 5800x

silicon lottery hates me

[modern walrus]

I had to set to 1.296 to get 4.7 on all core on 5900x

[lavish tundra]

Why manually OC zen 3

Run pbo with offsets

[sterile flame]

i do now

that was a year ago

[modern walrus]

sooo

I can run 1.45v for benchmarks now right?

[lavish tundra]

Wouldnt advise

[short blade]

i get 4.3ghz

you think silicon lottery hates you?

i would need above 1.4v to run what you get at 1.25v

[modern walrus]

sooo 1.45v for benchmarks cool right?

[sterile flame]

wait what

but you still got really lucky with your 11800h

[short blade]

not really

it's pretty average for an 11800h lol

[sterile flame]

wait so you're telling me that if i repaste the cpu and add cooling pads and stuff then OC it i can get similar results???

14775 in r23
bruh

[clever epoch]

I know somebody who degraded N7 ryzen with benchmarks at 1.45V

I wouldn't run that high on anything more than a 5600X unless you have sub-ambient cooling

The big issues with the tests he did are

1. Sample size (3 chips are not enough)
2. Only the single CCD chips. The multi-CCD chips will naturally run hotter under an equivalent per-core load because of greater heat load
3. He did not max out the frequency at the voltage, and so the resulting temperatures were likely far too conservative (~75C from what I remember. I wouldn't consider it "safe" testing below 85C)
4. Cinebench for "stability" testing. Cinebench stable can be very, very different from truly stable.

[sudden torrent]

All core benchmarks. PBO is great for single core but trash at boosting all cores.

[clever epoch]

I would have loved it if he ran them closer to their limits (as you would if you were pushing 1.45V), at a higher temperature, and used a more thorough stability test.

I still appreciate the effort, since it's not trivial to do the tests he did, but a little more effort would have gone a long way in that IMO.

Still, at least we know 1.45V is certainly not catastrophic

(further reinforcement that the PBO algorithm can be considered quite safe)

[lavish tundra]

I was talking for running daily

[lavish tundra]

^^^^^
Ive heard of chips running cinebench passing and the whole pc crashing from opening task manager

[zenith palm]

Well hey i had my 3070 oc stable for timespy but crashed in overwatch where I'm heavily cpu bound lol

[barren ridge]

not repaste, he used liquid metal and added viscous paste for the vrms and such

and 4.3ghz isn't oc

it's stock

[modern walrus]

No matter what I did I couldn't get 4600mhz/core to hold longer than 5-10 seconds into render on R23 with PBO, even bumping 185amps on tdc & edc. Scalar started looking tempting

[modern walrus]

It pokes holes in, but I don't think discredits entirely, the idea that voltage over 1.25 under load is too high

[clever epoch]

Well there's lots of factors, isn't it? It may be safe for a 5600X at only 4.5 GHz running less than 75C, but what about a 5950X at 4.8 GHz at 90C? What if your LLC settings are too high?

Or... maybe one chip can handle it just fine for years, while another will degrade in a few days

[modern walrus]

Absolutely

[clever epoch]

there's a lot of variables, and the advice given for "1.25V" is the "safe" advice that likely accounts for worst case scenarios for a lot of the factors.

EG cooling, LLC, workload

[modern walrus]

Lol I didn't really think 1.25v was the ceiling since PBO will run 1.3v+

Under load

Which was probably dumb on my part

[clever epoch]

depends on the load...

[modern walrus]

But I haven't seen degradation yet. R23 usually runs ~4575 under load

At 1.296

[clever epoch]

PBO will run 1.3V on a 5900X or 5950X just fine for something like R23

but if I load up prime95, it will drop to 1.2V or less

[modern walrus]

I also heard you're not supposed to undervolt

Which I ignored & put a -. 0625v offset

Which is the only way I could get slightly over 4600mhz on R23

Granted for a brief time.

Ya p95 won't pass 1.25

I think it'll usually sit at like 1.14v if I remember correctly

Which is another thing I wonder about those tests. Did they force constant voltage under p95? If they forced it at 1.45, they were probably getting like 3400mhz/core lol

[sudden torrent]

Reduced voltage can mean less heat, which lets the algorithm boost higher. As long as it's still stable a negative offset can be helpful.

[sudden torrent]

I think the 1.45 was just vcore, it would droop lower. But yeah if it was pbo and not manual the heat would reduce the boost clocks. You don't set manual voltage without setting manual clocks, though. That's bad practice.

[modern walrus]

Can you can do that just to get a baseline?

[modern walrus]

I the way I saw it by having offset in addition to curve optimizer meant I was able to set the cores that could handle it even further than -30 magnitude

It's frustrating that curve optimizer is only as strong as its weakest core tho. Like frequency on all-core will drop cuz of one core

I wish it was at least divided by CCDs

[sudden torrent]

Your board must be weird because I can do a per core CO and I get way better frequencies

[ivory lichen]

this is overclocking huh

[dull ginkgo]

It is

[proven canopy]

https://www.twitch.tv/antitux Alder Lake on ln2

[sterile flame]

he did 4600mhz

[sterile flame]

dont bother i found out she tried running a 5800x at 5.3ghz without setting a voltage

left it on auto

ah

[modern walrus]

for real? which board??

[sudden torrent]

MSI X470 Gaming Plus

[modern walrus]

hmm I wonder if B550 has that & I just never noticed before

there's so many damn redundant settings that wading thru it all isn't easy

but since you have MSI let me ask you something else

[sudden torrent]

It's just a toggle on my CO menu, per CCX or per core mode

[modern walrus]

is VCC Sense or Socket Sense a more accurate measure of voltage? (this is MSI Gaming Carbon Wifi Z490 w/ 10700KF btw)

[sudden torrent]

I'm not as familiar with Intel overclocks

[modern walrus]

no VRVOUT unfortunately

ah okay

I'll check that out once I get my 5900x rebuilt

I already rebuilt GPU & CPU blocks

[sudden torrent]

In fact I've never owned an Intel computer except my server in about... 14 years

[modern walrus]

gotta finish washing out the pipes & flush tf out of the rads

haha damn dedication right there

[sudden torrent]

Back in the day I had a Win98 that had a 300MHz Intel chip

[modern walrus]

You're in USA but you work overnights or something right?

I remember having Intel Pentium something

on my like Compaq Presario or whatever

[sudden torrent]

I'm in US but my schedule is weird. I work when I'm needed on site and most of it is remote. My boss doesn't care what I do as long as the servers keep running.

[modern walrus]

that's a pretty sweet gig

how far are the servers from where you live?

or do you go hang out in server room until next shift or something?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah, and since I'm technically the manager (of a department with 4 people in it) I can delegate most of the tech support calls lol

[modern walrus]

listen to the Deltas sing hymns? lol

haha noice

[sudden torrent]

It's about 20 minutes from emergency call to onsite

[modern walrus]

I actually had like this how to be a manager seminar thing at this awful job I had

& about the only thing I really learned at it is the best managers know how to delegate properly

which initially seemed like counterintuitive because you think like oh you become manager because you're really good at the job immediately below manager

[sudden torrent]

Yeah, that's really all that most managers are good for is telling people what they should be doing

[modern walrus]

but turns out that's not really why

do I remember you saying you degraded your CPU?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah the IMC

Or my IF at least

[modern walrus]

no desire to replace it?

[sudden torrent]

I used to run 3800 14-15-13 at 1.54v but now I can't hit that without WHEAs no matter what voltage I do

Nah I'm not worried about it, I can do 3600 14-13-13

[modern walrus]

damn overclocking Intel without VRVOUT sucks. Like my Aorus Z590 has VRVOUT & I know the CPU is getting 1.305v under load. Meanwhile vCore shows like 1.415 or something insane

tbh I forget what's generally accepted as "safe" voltage for 10th gen intel. Gotta do my homework again

[sudden torrent]

It's higher than Ryzen because 14nm

+++++++

[modern walrus]

is 14nm the spacing between or the size?

[sudden torrent]

It's supposedly the gate width but in reality it's a meaningless measurement that isn't standardized. Intel 7nm is about the same as AMD 5nm for example.

AMD measures the gap, Intel includes more in the measurement

[modern walrus]

20 years from now they'll be like 7 altometers apart

[sudden torrent]

We're getting pretty close to needing to measure in angstroms

[modern walrus]

I've never even heard of that SI unit

[sudden torrent]

Apple is down to what, 3nm?

[modern walrus]

damn are they?

[sudden torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angstrom

[modern walrus]

how the hell do you even build that

I used to remember most of the metric unites

T G M K H D | D C M M N P F A

[sudden torrent]

So 10Å = 1nm

[modern walrus]

Tera, Giga, Mega, Hecto, Deca, [base], Deci, Centi, Mili, Micro, Nano, then I forget the next two then alto I think

like pento & femto or something I dunno I'll google it

[sudden torrent]

picometers

1Å = 100 pico = 0.1nm

[modern walrus]

D 10^-1, C 10^-2, M 10^-3, m 10^-6, n 10^-9, p 10^-12, f 10^-15, a 10^-18

so alto has like 18 zeros or something

or 17 zeros then the number? Chem was a long time ago

1am = .000000000000000001m ?

[sudden torrent]

I stopped caring when I passed the last math class I ever needed to take, AP stats in high school

AP credit counted to college, never had to touch it again (except binary and hex conversion occasionally)

[modern walrus]

I never took AP math classes

I had honors but I never got past pre-calc

[sudden torrent]

See, that's why I took stats. I would rather do one class and be done than take two.

[modern walrus]

I had AP US history, AP US gov't, AP Environmental Science, & AP Chem

[sudden torrent]

My laziness won out

[modern walrus]

3, 4, 4, 1

damn chemistry lol

[sudden torrent]

Idek what my scores were, that was over a decade ago.

[modern walrus]

haha

that was in '05-'06 for me

[sudden torrent]

So you're a few years older than me at least.

[modern walrus]

I'll be 34 on 12/2

[sudden torrent]

Just guessing I think I got a 3 on stats and 2 on history... never my best subject, too much memorizing

Or I could be wrong and it was a 4 - 1 🤷‍♂️

[modern walrus]

I was so mad I got a 3 on US history

but my school had a rule where they didn't want you taking AP US history unless you also took AP English

& AP English was an "A period" class

which meant you got to come to school an hour before everyone else & have one extra class

& after doing that with honors biology, I was not trying to do it again

so I had to take regular US history first quarter

I got 100% on every test

[sudden torrent]

God English was so boring for me. I actually failed it for lack of interest. I never did the homework but aced every test, so one year I got the one teacher that weights the grades more to the homework than tests like a freak.

[modern walrus]

I'm like can you put me in AP now?

so they did but unfortunately the standard class was up to the revolutionary war by the end of the first quarter & AP was up to right before the Civil War

so I ended up with a gap in my US history knowledge from like 1800-1860

[sudden torrent]

Of course, the period that half the test took place in right?

[modern walrus]

ya for real haha

like you know the whole becoming a legit country, going from Articles of Confederation to the Constitution

Federalist Papers still cited in modern court cases on con law

some pretty significant stuff

plus westward expansion

War of 1812, Spanish-American War I think

wait no nvm

Spanish-American War was after Civil War th am I saying

[sudden torrent]

Ye Texas wasn't a thing at that point lol

[modern walrus]

Neither was FL

er was it? damn I forget

[sudden torrent]

Now I'm curious

[modern walrus]

ya for real I'm going to readthe wikipedia article

[sudden torrent]

Florida was the 40th state

[modern walrus]

ah the Platt Amendment

it's starting to come back to me

[sudden torrent]

Ah yeah that's right, it was 27th but then the war, and then reintegrated

[modern walrus]

I think Platt Amendment is why we still have Guantanamo Bay

[sudden torrent]

No wonder you didn't remember, that was 1845 right smack in your gap

[modern walrus]

ya that was really not cool of my crappy high school

[sterile flame]

wait this chat isnt dead
wow

[modern walrus]

crazy how Spain & Great Britain used to control most of the world & now they're like the size of Maine

[sterile flame]

yes

portugal as well

[sudden torrent]

Yeah for some reason we went from overclocking to math to history, a usual late night chat

[sterile flame]

lol

why is techie sad

[sudden torrent]

BSOD face

[modern walrus]

lol ya still dunno whether to use VCC Sense or Socket Sense for core voltage measurement on Z490 but glad I came here nonetheless

[sudden torrent]

The jump to math isn't hard to fathom when we were talking about nanometers and angstroms

No idea where US history came in

[modern walrus]

Do you still get BSOD? I thought it was GSOD

AP classes haha

[sudden torrent]

They're still blue afaik

[modern walrus]

it should be green happy face cuz techies to the rescue

mine is always green

lol wth

[sudden torrent]

Maybe you panel is BGR subpixel instead of RGB and colors get swapped?

[modern walrus]

but like

I have two 27" Dells, 29" ultrawide LG, & 43" Samsung

& all are green

[sudden torrent]

Ah no I see what it is, the green screen is for insider builds

[modern walrus]

ohhhh

damn I never knew that

ya I like to run Betas on dailys & dev on occasional computers

sometimes some cool stuff comes along

I think my favorite feature they've had in the last year or so is the thing where like

your clipboard shows up on all devices

like I can copy something on my phone & it'll be available for paste on computer

[sudden torrent]

Isn't that on Win11 already?

[modern walrus]

with Microsoft Swiftkey

Also like that Edge on Android I can click continue on PC & it'll pop up

as new tab

[sudden torrent]

I've been doing that with firefox for years tho

[modern walrus]

I used to use Firefox all the time with ubuntu

but I felt like Firefox mobile was not that good

for awhile I used Chrome

Edge is just Microsoft version of Chromium

[sudden torrent]

I use multiple browsers for multiple reasons, firefox is my main because of the sync

[modern walrus]

I only use Edge now because I can sync history, passwords, etc

I freaking hate remembering passwords

convenient

it's why I don't mind paying for OneDrive

[modern walrus]

alright ya same thing I guess

Collections are kinda nice to have tho

[sudden torrent]

That's just pocket on firefox lol

[modern walrus]

even tho it's really just about the same as manually putting folders in your favorites folder

[sudden torrent]

Moral of the story: these days browser choice doesn't matter because they're basically all the same

[modern walrus]

ya true

Only reason I go with Edge is its native to windows

which I assume somehow means it'll integrate better

not sure how but eh

[sudden torrent]

Only because M$ forces it

They've gotten in trouble recently with an antitrust lawsuit over forcing their browser to load search results and stuff even when another browser is default

[modern walrus]

isn't it funny how that works tho

[sudden torrent]

Same thing happened in '02 I think it was

[modern walrus]

like they can't just be like "it's our OS" & take their ball & go home

you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they get hit with that sometime soon for pdf in Edge

because Adobe DC Pro is my default for pdf but in Edge it'll still open in Microsoft's pdf thing

but you wanna talk about antitrust? Acrobat is like the only pdf reader anyway

[sudden torrent]

They created the pdf though, pretty sure it's under copyright or something

[modern walrus]

hmm just got a notification for another Software Update on Note20u

I wonder for how much longer tho

[sudden torrent]

Ah no it's patented, not copyright

[modern walrus]

those type of scientific intellectual property things don't last long

probably utility patent?

the view being like okay you can make your money for awhile cuz you came up with the idea

[sudden torrent]

They grant a free license to people to use the format but it's their format

[modern walrus]

but after that we allow others to use it because we want things to continue to get better

[modern walrus]

one thing I kinda miss about iOS is that the changes from iOS versions usually had some sort of distinct feature changes

Android updates are like oh look... exactly what I had before cool

haha well played Adobe

like ya sure use our thing btw did you know we have the best software for that file format? check it out

[sudden torrent]

Here's the best part

"If you sue us you are implied to have never gotten permission to use the software"

[modern walrus]

lol seems a bit ex post facto to me but

ex post facto is more to do government

damn I should really rebuild my damn computer. I've been slacking

pretty sure I messed up the nickel plating on the CPU block

in a stroke of brilliance, I cleaned it with white vinegar

damn you reddit

[sudden torrent]

That's why I'm getting solid copper heatkiller block

[modern walrus]

I think it's copper under the nickel at least haha

[sudden torrent]

Yeah that's what it usually is, nickel plating

[modern walrus]

Nickel is best for LM

but I haven't done LM cuz I'll probably short something

[sudden torrent]

I'm looking forward to getting started on my custom loop. I've been thinking of doing the fractal torrent with a dual 180 + 360 setup

[modern walrus]

oh daaamn

that case is freaking nice

[sudden torrent]

Top fill port is vur nice

[modern walrus]

Have you seen the Thermaltake P8?

that thing is a monster

but I'm all about those big fans on the Torrent

fans anyone?

[sudden torrent]

I'd put this on the bottom https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/360mm/12877/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-360mm-radiator?c=25320

[modern walrus]

yoo

those NexXxoS

you can get 400mm

2x200mm fan

I wanted to do it so bad but I needed at least another 1/8" or it was going to be pressed against motherboard VRMs

[sudden torrent]

Yeah, I could do a 420mm if I wanted but... eh

This would be the front https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/180200mm/15241/alphacool-nexxxos-xt45-full-copper-180mm-dual-radiator

[modern walrus]

I always liked this case

[modern walrus]

that is heckin sweeeet

damn you're making me wanna swap a build into another case rn haha

I like my Cooler master H500P Mesh build but it's kinda small & doesn't have side rad option

[sudden torrent]

Not like you need a rad on every intake anyway, unless you do lots of short benches.

[modern walrus]

I like 7000D but no 200mm fan support

[sudden torrent]

7000D was just Corsair saying "look it's bigger"

[modern walrus]

lol ya pretty much

definitely whatever case I get next has to have bottom fan support

it's wasted intake space if you ask me

I always put PSU upside down now since hot air is supposed to push out of the back

& there's no reason to have it right under GPU pulling away cool air GPU could use

kinda unnecessary with waterblock tho I guess

[sudden torrent]

I agree, bigger is not always better. It needs to be bigger with purpose, like the torrent

[modern walrus]

true but at the same time I can't imagine ever doing one of those ITX builds

[sudden torrent]

Its whole thing is GIANT rad support

[modern walrus]

do 200mms fit?

I didn't understand why they went for 180mm

[sudden torrent]

ITX is a fun challenge

Yeah 180 is weird, there's only a few fans that size

[modern walrus]

ya & it's practical

ITX is good if you have to move PC around alot or something

just doesn't really appeal to me to have less space & worse thermals

I guess for like non flagship processors it's good tho

[sudden torrent]

No but you can do 2 more 180s on the bottom lol

Or triple 140

Actually I think it comes with triple 140 on the bottom already, interesting. Now I want it more.

[modern walrus]

haha niec

I don't appreciate 140s as much as I should

I've only ever used them as rear exhaust

since that's usually largest that will fit there

I think torrent is non-rgb tho no?

[sudden torrent]

They have both rgb and non

[modern walrus]

with the fans too?

[sudden torrent]

Yep

[modern walrus]

oh nice

[modern walrus]

is the top always closed off like that?

bottom fans are apology for no top? lol

[sudden torrent]

Yes, and it actually helps CPU temps when using an air cooler

[modern walrus]

hmm never used one tbh

[sudden torrent]

More channeled airflow and less blown out the top

Actually they have a graphic for that too

It got some of the best CPU temps out of any case GN tested

GPU too of course with those 140s pointed right at it

[modern walrus]

That makes sense

is PSU on the top?

well nvm ya I see the power connection

[sudden torrent]

Yes, and it pulls air from inside case so acts as exhaust

[modern walrus]

good idea

well I'd think but wouldn't rad fans likely pull more air out than PSU fan?

PSU fan is designed with PSU in mind not really any other components I'd think

what does it support for rear exhaust fans?

single 140?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah it can do a 140 on rear

Positive pressure for days

But also check out that rear panel

Nice and open

[modern walrus]

that is a bad ass looking computer tho

does seem strange not to have rear fan tho tbh

they need to make a case that has no PCIe expansions except for one for vertical GPU

so you can mount like 3x120mms on the back

[sudden torrent]

You got a dremel? lol

[modern walrus]

no but

got an m18 fuel angle grinder

[sudden torrent]

I don't think it would make enough difference tbh. As it is the air is forced out the back at high pressure, and the rear is clearly high airflow

[modern walrus]

I was gonna make some cuts on 5000D cuz I was convinced 200mms could fit

but ended up not doing it

I like the idea of rear intake, front intake, bottom intake, top exhaust

cuz like physics & stuff

hot air rises

I always wanted to build a C700P Cosmos

but it's so expensive

plus looking at it again now, it's kinda dated

the bottom shroud is ridiculously large

like wth are you hiding under there?

unless you have like 10 HDDs

[dull ginkgo]

More likely it's a he but the point of them being in #overclocking is so they don't do that

[sterile flame]

Hey is it possible to over clock a ryzen 5 2600 to 4.2 GHz all core with Ryzen master

[faint tangle]

Ryzen master bad

Oc via bios

[dull ginkgo]

Possible, yes, should you do it, maybe not.

[short blade]

i like this graphic

[zenith palm]

Ohhh that's cool graphic

[dull ginkgo]

Wish GN did schlieren imaging to test that

[zenith palm]

Is that the term for that style of graphic?

[dull ginkgo]

It's the name of the imaging system GN has that allows you to visualize the airflow patterns and such

[zenith palm]

Ahhh that would be cool yeah

[dull ginkgo]

They used it here
https://youtu.be/VVaGRtX80gI

[zenith palm]

Oh i missed this, will watch

[ivory lichen]

whats bios

i just use ryzen master

but my pc keeps crashing

[sudden torrent]

Bios is the "basic input output system" and it controls all the hardware in the system.
You can access it by pressing delete when the computer is starting up. Ryzen master is pretty bad for overclocking 2000 series, you'll need better control over voltage and such.

[ivory lichen]

i have a 5800x

[sudden torrent]

Oh I mixed you up with the other person that was right above the message you linked

If the PC is crashing under load you probably need to change load line calibration setting to level 3 or 4, which you have to do in bios.

Most people should just enable PBO and leave it.

[ivory lichen]

i set it to 5600mhz but it keeps crashing as soon as i open cinebench

[sudden torrent]

JFC that's like world record speed on liquid nitrogen, it'll never go that high normally

[ivory lichen]

does that mean i broke the world record

YAY

[sudden torrent]

No, it just means you're trying to kill your cpu

You have to pass a load test for the record

Just turn on PBO and call it good. That'll be better for gaming than any manual overclock.

If you really need the all core manual overclock, somewhere between 4600 and 4700 is usually the limit with a good liquid cooler

[ivory lichen]

😦

i dont want my cpu to die

[ivory lichen]

wahts pbo

[sudden torrent]

Precision boost overdrive

The option is in ryzen master too

It should allow your cpu to boost single core speeds to 5000-5100 when gaming, or 4700 or so with a few cores loaded. All assuming you have a very good liquid cooler.

[ivory lichen]

ok

but my cpu isnt 5600 anymore

😦

does that mean its slow now

[sudden torrent]

Slower and working is better than faster and crashing

[ivory lichen]

i guess so

[sudden torrent]

It's plenty fast anyway, about 400-500 fps in cs:go

[ivory lichen]

really?

i play gacha life, roblox and minecraft

how many fps can i get now

[sudden torrent]

1080p low settings like esports players do, yeah

[ivory lichen]

wait whats cpsgo

[sudden torrent]

Minecraft Java or bedrock?

[ivory lichen]

whats the difference

[sudden torrent]

Counter strike global offensive, a first person shooter online game

[ivory lichen]

i think its education edition for minecraft

[sudden torrent]

Bedrock has a limit on the number of fps

[ivory lichen]

my mom said im not allowed gun games

they give me nightmares

[sudden torrent]

Roblox is fps limited too, don't know about gacha

[ivory lichen]

im gonna find a roblox fps thingy

[sudden torrent]

Could do at least 200-300 then

[ivory lichen]

AHH NO ITS A VIRYUYS

HELP

WHAT DO I DO

[sudden torrent]

You'll need to give more detail than that. How do you know it's a virus?

[ivory lichen]

it said it was blocked because it found potentialy harmful software or somethiq2ngq

BNUT WHAT i do

is it getting my password?s

[sudden torrent]

Then it was blocked and you're fine.

[ivory lichen]

ok phew

do you wanna play adopt me?

[clever epoch]

Do you want to play "stop trolling and wasting peoples' time?"

[ivory lichen]

nobody wants to play with me 😦

[sterile flame]

i consider most people having an anime pfp and playing adopt me as female

[sterile flame]

what the freak is adopt me

oh that one roblox game 💀

[sterile flame]

apparently 1.6 million people played that at the same time

https://tenor.com/view/taking-off-sunglasses-what-surprised-sunglasses-glasses-gif-15439516

[sterile flame]

lol

[dull ginkgo]

Tis do be the internet

[dreamy oak]

This is prob a stupid question but how to oc?

[weary valley]

Check the pins

[dreamy oak]

what

[cold jolt]

[dreamy oak]

Yeah, I don't get it

[cold jolt]

the pinned messages in this channel

do you know how discord works

looks like this

[dreamy oak]

Yeah, I know how it works but I need directions on the mobo ting

[cold jolt]

we dont have time to waste giving generic instructions to everybody

if you are serious about it

you will do the research yourself

if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask

[dreamy oak]

Should I look on youtube If that helps?

[cold jolt]

sure, there are some good guides on youtube somewhere, i havent looked into them though. start by reading the reddit post thats pinned at the top

huge index of different resources, pretty easy to find what youre looking for

[dreamy oak]

Alright thanks

[weary valley]

Overclocking is complicated and can be lengthy to explain so that's why there are guides pinned on how to do it and you can always look up YouTube tutorials

[zenith palm]

Closer

[modern walrus]

is there any way to estimate what VRVOUT would read if motherboard had it based on vcore?

Intel overclocking without VRVOUT sucks

[worldly wasp]

which mobo thing

[worldly wasp]

no

[sterile flame]

hi

also guys what should i set the wattage limit for pbo

i have 5800x

[clever epoch]

Find out the maximum power the chip can draw before throttling. Subtract 10-20 watts from that.

[sterile flame]

with hwinfo?

[clever epoch]

Eg
I set the limit super high (300W), run R23, monitor power draw, and I see it hit 170W after a few seconds, so I subtract 15W (I have an AIO so it will saturate with heat eventually) and set to 155W

[sterile flame]

hmm

lol

its just those to cores boosting to 4800mhz+ while all the other cores at 3800

[sterile flame]

x99

choosing that as my first XOCing platform was an experience

[bold shore]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-pepe-frog-shocked-what-the-heck-gif-17806223

[zenith palm]

Btw whats the use of those fans when ln2 ocing? I think you might of said before but i forgot lol

[proven canopy]

Keeps the -196c ln2 vapor from freezing the board

[worldly wasp]

also prevents condensation yeah?

[proven canopy]

That's the point, if the vapor cools the board, ambient humidity can condense

The board is usually fine frozen

[zenith palm]

Ahh yeah thought it was something along those lines

[sterile flame]

guys is 3666mhz cl18-22-18-21-40 better than 3200 cl16-18-18-18-36?

[sudden torrent]

Both aren't great, but the 3666 is slightly better probably

[sterile flame]

i know i was dumb when i bought my pc
i got 3200mhz ram cjr die

[proven canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698616651456970811/911418694498942986/PXL_20211120_005137891.PORTRAIT.jpg

[sudden torrent]

Frozen pot much?

[sterile flame]

lol

[hollow lotus]

hello

can I have help with my ram

i have been using 3200 mhz ram cl 16 but i recently upgraded to 4000 mhz ram cl 18 because it only costed me 10 more dollars compared to the 3200

i inserted it into my pc but my dram frequency is only running at 3200 mhz

i tried manually changing it, enabled the xmp profile but my *Task Manager is telling me its running at 3200 so I just let my motherboard configure the best options and now its running at 2747

i have a asus gaming tuf z390 mobo

and a 9700k

[lavish tundra]

@hollow lotus #building-and-recc-chat

I answered ur question there

Dont ask in multiple channels

[clever epoch]

Dang that's satisfying

[zenith palm]

Satisfying indead, why heat up, to take off cpu quicker?

Also itx board cheaper than good atx t topology board ?

[proven canopy]

Yes, especially on am4, don't want to rip the cpu out of the socket, it was a 5300g I was running for the 3dmark 11 physics 5ghz stage. I usually heat the pot to 40c.

[zenith palm]

Ahh yes fair enough lol

[proven canopy]

It's the b550i strix, going for sweaty memory here, something like 2400 fclk, 4800c14

[lavish tundra]

Twist and then pull off at an angle also good technique for am4

[zenith palm]

Figured

[proven canopy]

Unfortunately, this board has a 1.8v hard limit for vdimm

[zenith palm]

1.8 aint enough 👀

[proven canopy]

Yes - but isn't going to work when the paste is -100c

[lavish tundra]

Bdie benches at 2v

[proven canopy]

Or even 0c

[lavish tundra]

Oh fair

[zenith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-falls-pass-out-faints-gif-8604193

[proven canopy]

Most b-die scales to 2v, depends a lot on the pcb and just normal variation.

My best 2x8 3800c14 neos are terrible at 1.8v but do 4800c14 tight on the 10900k for geek3 @ 6.7, 32m @ 7.2

[zenith palm]

Damm, would they be okay with only a fan tho? Surely you'd need bit more than that?

[proven canopy]

On a board like that, the sticks are right up against the pot and if anything, can sometimes get too cold. But yeah, definitely want to keep them < 50c

[zenith palm]

Ahh true

[sterile flame]

😮

bruh what was the ram's stock speed

[proven canopy]

4000c18 or something. Two of my six 3800c14 neos did 48c14 tight on the 10900k on water

[sterile flame]

wow

[sterile flame]

this guy has single rank memory

do you think i can get similar results with mine

[worldly wasp]

ample when

if you remove the inductor it should be easy to hook it up

[humble jay]

Isn’t that the board that has 1.8V capacitors too

[worldly wasp]

idk

[proven canopy]

.. like literally every other epower

[worldly wasp]

yes

[rancid sandal]

Just oced my gpu and cpu and ran a valley bench

My first time overclocking but it turned out amazing

Wouldn’t have been able to do it without my graphics card from Newegg tho

[proven canopy]

Check out benchmate, download is in the pins. Gpupi is a nice, free gpu only bench

[proven canopy]

Dave Green benching a Pentium E2200 on liquid nitrogen https://www.twitch.tv/forks__oc

[ivory lichen]

guys my pc not booting help

[dull ginkgo]

clear cmos

[ivory lichen]

how

i set the ram to 5000mhz and pc brokey

[dull ginkgo]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[proven canopy]

[sterile flame]

eject cmos battery

approved method

[dull ginkgo]

Stab board with screwdriver is an approved method (jumper)

[sterile flame]

rip out bios chip
(experimental method)

[sudden torrent]

De-solder and put new one

[sterile flame]

[potent fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/chosen-toy-story-gif-7936264

[jagged hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=559URByA3rQ

[bleak sable]

Should I put on an OC for folding@home

[humble jay]

Casual ram OC

[sudden torrent]

Casual 5200 straight 14s lol

[humble jay]

Samsung b die too good

[sterile flame]

yes

[sterile flame]

guys im actually doing it
im tuning the timings for my broken ram

i think its faulty

[humble jay]

[humble jay]

Casual 2200 FCLK

[harsh hornet]

How can a 1050 Ti, even do this? It's even going past it's set boost clock.

[zenith palm]

What's your curve look like?

[harsh hornet]

Could you rephrase that?

[zenith palm]

See the way core clock says "curve"

Can you show us the curve, not sure what button you press to get it up on that skin for afterburner but ye

[sudden torrent]

Might be from the auto oc

[short blade]

boost clock is basically an imaginary number now and has been for many years

GPU boost algorithm will automatically go far past that

until it hits a wall at either max voltage, max power, or max temp

I had a 1050 mobile with an advertised boost clock of 1490mhz

got it running at like 2025mhz

might have been higher, memory is hazy

too long ago

let me see if I can find an old benchmark

ah I found it but unfortunately it didn't report clocks correctly

[sterile flame]

oh

[clear glade]

Hey guys, how do i overclock for beginners or can it be done with these specs?

Intel i7-4930K 3.4ghz
DDR3 16 gb 1333 mhz
Asus Strix GTX 980
256gb SSD
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition motherboard
Seasonic 80 Plus gold 850W PSU

[sterile flame]

What CPU cooler do you have? @clear glade

[clear glade]

I used to have a AIO corsair, ... it was dying on me making too much noise, i recently turned it into a cheap air cooler... Coolermaster Hyper 212, i added another fan on it, so i have 7 fans in total

[sterile flame]

Hmm yea you could probably overclock your 4930k by a few hundred MHz, and increase voltage if necessary by up to 100mV probably. I'm just giving a really rough estimate since Im not actually too sure.

What are you current temps when you run let's say 2 back to back runs of cinebench R20? Have you done any thermal tests as it is currently?

[clear glade]

I haven't done anything lol i am new to this... i dont know where to start and what to do

I was hoping someone can walk me through or share some tutorial or something

[upper chasm]

undervolting?

[potent fiber]

Can anyone help me ajust the idle clocks of my gpu? 1 p state is like 570/810 core/mem & the lower pstate is actually clocked higher at 608Mhz. Tried w/ Nvidia profile inspector but hitting apply does nothing. Is that because afterburner is running? Thnx

[ivory lichen]

it didnt work

pc still brokey

the lights turn on but nothing happens on the monitor

[dull ginkgo]

clear cmos again

battery method

[sudden torrent]

Flash bios from another gpu of the same model. That'll change your tables.

Just make sure it's got the same power and video port config

[ivory lichen]

ok

[ivory lichen]

wheres the battery

why would it have a battery

i cant find the battery

whats it supposed to look like

ill check online

[potent fiber]

@ivory lichen in it's own flat socket, usually shape/size of a nickel (usd 5cents). Kinda shiny, it's around the middle or near a gpu slot sometimes.

[ivory lichen]

oh ok i found it

is it not meant to be there?

was i supposed to take it out when i got my pc

[potent fiber]

They are needed, almost all mobos for 20+ yrs have the same cmos battery. Uh, take it out to clear certain settings*, then reinstall. They can go bad and require replacement

Sorry, some typos I fixed.

[potent fiber]

Asus Strix specifically I guess? I have the 11gbps mem not 10, doubt that's any issue. Well, I'll look up a bios on techpowerup or something. Haven't edited/flashed a gpu bios in a while. --thank you.

[sudden torrent]

It doesn't have to be the exact model, for example you can flash msi bios onto asus as long as the above rules are followed on power and video.

Also a potential issue is flashing non-lhr onto lhr gpu or vice-versa

[ivory lichen]

i took the battery out
do i put it back in

[modern walrus]

almost 12 hours of anta+arshia ass kicking & no errors but CPU-Z, Asrock, & HWiNFO all show nonsense for frequency. Should show 3866

this 32x2 mjr kit worked fine when it was with 10900K on MSI Z490. Now same kit & same 10900K on Aorus Z590 Ultra, won't boot XMP & does this goofy crap

[clever epoch]

could be defective mobo

[modern walrus]

never had issues with the 3200c16 set tho

dunno what's going on

IMC degraded, memory itself corrupted somehow, I dunno?

sfc & dism find nothing

the little indicator on the motherboard says AO (all okay) too

[sudden torrent]

Looks like it reverted to jedec after failing to train

[modern walrus]

well that would be pretty crappy

I wonder if I bump CL back up to 18 if it would work

I'm gonna check all the settings first

any idea what training voltage should be usually?

[sudden torrent]

I'm not really an Intel overclocker but I know general stuff about dies and such. I do know it's a lot easier to run gear 2 and 2T.

[modern walrus]

it's running 2t

[sudden torrent]

That much I saw

[modern walrus]

I feel like it's gotta be something with the board settings. I dunno

heckin aorus

I have a love/hate relationship with that board

[sudden torrent]

Same settings are likely to yield different results on different boards for various reasons

[modern walrus]

still blows my mind that XMP with same cpu & same kit ran fine on MSI Z490 but same cpu & same kit can't POST XMP on Aorus Z590

[short blade]

your TM5 bugged out

notice how it's still on cycle 1 and no tests are running

[modern walrus]

oh thought cuz it was anta+arshia that it was different somehow

but it ran 6 hours of anta777 no errors also

I'm trying CL18 now to see if it shows the right frequency

it's definitely training cuz it does this cycle of speeding up fans then dropping back down then repeating like 2-3x

pretty crappy feature tho tbh

wish it would make me clear CMOS or go to the "BIOS failed to load" thing instead of just acting like it's okay & running crap

[sudden torrent]

See if there's an option in the bios to increase the number of training attempts

[modern walrus]

I'll look for it

[sudden torrent]

I know my msi board has that

[modern walrus]

would it quit training after like 3-5 seconds of doing it? lol

[sudden torrent]

Might be called memory fail retry or something

[modern walrus]

with CL18 at least my LAN connection is back

[sudden torrent]

It usually does 2 attempts and quits

[modern walrus]

still shows 31,982 for frequency tf

since XMP won't POST, I guess I have to run whatever frequency is under 3800 instead of 3866

heckin crap

I should just sell this crap for like half of what I paid (since that's likely all I'll get) & get another bdie kit

I'm gonna see if 3700c17 POSTs

awhat is Realtime Memory Timing?

oh allows you to change settings in OS

[sudden torrent]

It's entirely possible that the die on your memory isn't as compatible with the new board

Which would be a bios thing

[modern walrus]

heck

what do you think resale on 32gbx2 MJR Trident Neo Z would look like? lol

not seeing any settings other than training voltage

[worldly wasp]

low

[modern walrus]

lol heck

[worldly wasp]

maybe $100-160?

[modern walrus]

maybe better

that's c18 & 3600

this is 3800c18

then again, once ebay hits you up for the whatever % $160 is probably about right

[worldly wasp]

oh you have 64gb

ahh

yeah 12.5% ebay

[modern walrus]

ya ebay sucks for that

[worldly wasp]

thiught you had 2x16

[modern walrus]

no 2x32

but this kit is crap

I mean it's alright for someone running XMP & needs lots of memory for whatever

but for OC it's crap

I'm gonna boot at 3400 everything auto & see what it does

cuz if it's still showing nonsense for the frequency I think Fal'Cie is right & there has to be a compatibility issue

hmm

stuck on the Aorus logo

this board & this memory do not like each other for real

[worldly wasp]

just buy b die

yessir

[modern walrus]

for now, I'm gonna swap it with the 2x16 3200c16 in my 10700KF build

since that build has the MSI board that it worked fine on before in it

& update the offerup post lol

gotta get my status up in performance PCs so I can list there

offerup hasn't gotten anywhere in like a month. oh well

[modern walrus]

WTH

still showing nonsense with the MJR inserted lol

well we're trending to better tho. CPU-Z shows the right frequency now at least. HWiNFO hasn't joined the party yet tho

[potent fiber]

@sudden torrent So besides other usable options, I found the 2 stock bios's for my exact card, AS01 & AS04. I have the latter, & I think it was about default fan settings or something. They were made only 18 days apart in 2017. ---The good news: since PC on from standby today, idle core/mem is 139/405Mhz w/ just quick spikes to the next P state of 570/810. That high-idle could've been a glitch, possibly also related to using MSI AB for a .9v max. Idle 25C cold hourse, load 60-65C. Thnx for the input.

[potent fiber]

@sudden torrent Oh I think I solved. MSI AB clock/voltage curve, clicking a point then hitting L to limit voltage or actually "lock" it seems to keep me at 570 & not drop to the super low idle. 👍 .
Well, Happy turkey day everyone!

[modern walrus]

@proven canopy sorry to at you, but just realized I submitted score for GeekBench3 multi... was supposed to be for GB4. Whenever you get a chance can you lmk how to delete it? not trying to have score canceled or impropriety allegations

[opal quartz]

is there anything to be gained from over clocking an evga 3070 ti. not really sure how to do it.

[modern walrus]

download afterburner

set voltage, power limit, & temp limit to max

then start with +100 GPU clock, run furmark or something of the like until it crashes

then back up 15mhz & save/write down

[modern walrus]

then set mem clock at +480 & increase by 15 until furmark/whatever crashes, then reduce by 15mhz

you'll get more FPS & better performance, but it will make your graphics card hotter

download HWiNFO or something to monitor temps

[sudden torrent]

I do increments of 20 on memory because GDDR6 and 6X are QDR, meaning it's 5x4=20

[proven canopy]

https://www.twitch.tv/techtested
FX 6300 on Biostar 990fx Mobo

[potent fiber]

So Fal'Cie idk if I accidentally flashed my bios to the "older" one, but gpu-z says it is. I kinda want to flash (to newer), but nvflash was being finicky trying to type commands in the prompt. Plus, not like AS05 would do much.

[faint sage]

Could someone help me overclock my gpu using EVGA percision X1 or another program

[potent fiber]

@faint sage There's guides, but I'll give a crash course. Note that your 30 series has different options/settings as my 10 series. Msi afterburner is what I have and it's popular. It's not very complicated. Well, simplest setup I think is to only put the Power Limit (PL) & perhaps also Temp Limit (TL) up a bit.
Otherwise, you (also) increase core clock and/or mem clock by 5-10mhz then benchmark in certain games or programs to check stability, then repeat.
Upping voltage a certain amount helps max OC, but I don't touch it personally. I undervolt my gpu, but not sure why I bother w/ the sweet Strix cooler & it is winter.

[sudden torrent]

I'm not at home to check the nvflash commands, I'll ping you later

Unless someone helps first

[sudden torrent]

Is it the 3060 in your nickname?

[potent fiber]

Ok thnx, no problem. If you'd like, can msg here later* or in DM about nvflash. I tried running it inside cmd as admin and stuff. Maybe glitches from having other stuff open concurrently.

[faint sage]

yes

[sudden torrent]

Ok cool, I'm guessing it's a gaming overclock. Start by maxing out the power and temp limit, and then set memory to +1000 and core to +150. Then you can test if it's stable using a stress test or benchmark, like furmark, unigine heaven, or time spy.

[faint sage]

what about this?

[sudden torrent]

Looks right

And make sure to hit apply too

[faint sage]

ok i have heaven am going to start it now

are these ok?

[sudden torrent]

Yep

[faint sage]

just push run?

[sudden torrent]

Yes

[faint sage]

then what

[sudden torrent]

Let it run, and watch it to see if it crashes or the screen looks weird (artifacts, tearing, flickering, etc)

If it looks fine after a while bump up the memory +100 with it still running

[faint sage]

Let it run through the bemchmark

it didnt crash

didnt see ur message till it finished

[faint sage]

do i keep doing that until it breaks?

[sudden torrent]

That's fine, do +100 and run it until it crashes and drop it back down. Then do +20 until it crashes again.

I've seen some 3060s max out at +1500, others get stuck around +1000

[faint sage]

just memory mghz

[sudden torrent]

Yes just memory for now

[faint sage]

how long should i run it for each bump

[sudden torrent]

5 minutes is fine for initial testing

[faint sage]

starting 1400

ok black screen at 1400

[sudden torrent]

Ok, you can either leave it at 1300 or try to push it further in increments of 20.

[faint sage]

going to push

So what would make my gpu stop at 1400?

just the silicon?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah. Every card is different, some can do more than others based on luck and binning

[faint sage]

so where is mine on the scale?

[sudden torrent]

Above average so far

[faint sage]

ok going 1340

1380

[faint sage]

Ok 1380 is as far as i can go

@sudden torrent Now what

[sudden torrent]

It crashes on 1380 or passes?

[faint sage]

crashes after 1380

so 1390 crash

[sudden torrent]

Ok, it's a good idea for stability to leave it at 1360. That way more demanding games don't crash it.

[faint sage]

ok

[sudden torrent]

Next you'll be pushing the core clock in +30 increments

[faint sage]

so 180 now

[sudden torrent]

Yes

And when it crashes drop it 15 and try again

[faint sage]

ok

[sudden torrent]

If it goes above 210 you got a really good overclocker

[faint sage]

ok it gave me a black screen sadly

[sudden torrent]

165 then right?

[faint sage]

yes

ill try that\

ok good on 165 how about 175

should i do 175?

[sudden torrent]

Boost bins go in 15 increments. Doing +10 usually has no effect.

[faint sage]

ok so now what?

anyhting else?

[sudden torrent]

Now you stress test using another program

[faint sage]

actually wait when i had the first crash my power reset let me try 180 again

[sudden torrent]

Heaven is good but not the most stressful, run furmark for 15 minutes and watch temps

[faint sage]

ok

[modern walrus]

If anyone finds 32gb (16GBx2) bdie on super black Friday sale lmk lol

because overclocking MJR & AJR sucks

[zenith palm]

pinged you with some in general btw

[modern walrus]

Much appreciated

[zenith palm]

Np

[worldly wasp]

interested on used?

[modern walrus]

Where's that at?

[short otter]

If anyone wants to help a goldfish (me) get memory to run at 4400mhz xmp dm me

What's a good ceiling for safe vddq voltage for alder lake?

I'm at 1.45 and got 4000mhz cl19 stable

[sterile flame]

can i overclock my chocolate frosted donut

[dull ginkgo]

Spin it in a circle faster

[sterile flame]

Can we hit 1hz

😳

[dull ginkgo]

Yes

[zenith palm]

Stick it on a spiny boi motor, and push all the volts into the motor

[lavish tundra]

Throw it real hard at someone and ull reach 1 hurts

[proven canopy]

3 hour session with the 4750g https://i.imgur.com/sd8zUTo.jpeg

[modern walrus]

HWiNFO author talking to noob is probably how most of this channel felt answering my questions for the first 3-5 months https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/how-to-install-hwinfo-on-linux.7083/

[sterile flame]

holy crap lmao

but nah he's not on linux or windows, he's on templeOS 🤡

ultimate plot twist

[zenith palm]

Is that the reverse engineered win 95 copy lol?

[sterile flame]

I forget, I don't really know much about it besides it's the butt of a lot of jokes lmao

[weary valley]

No its a OS built with a custom language called Holy C developed by Terry Davis and x86 assembly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg

He programmed his own compiler, kernel, bootloader and other stuff

It's sad what happened to him because he really was a genius

It's both open source and in the public domain also, people have made distros based off of TempleOS which is neat

[zenith palm]

Ahh

[short blade]

thanks, this gave me a headache

[modern walrus]

well heck that certainly wasn't my intention

[modern walrus]

FNG eh?

so at what frequency would the penalty incurred by desyncing FCLK become worth it? would jumping from 3800c14 to 4000c14 be worth it? 4000c16?

[worldly wasp]

define worth it

[proven canopy]

For daily? Almost never worth it.

[modern walrus]

I see thank you]

[modern walrus]

btw the higher CLDO_VDDP & VDDG CCD voltage was based on:

and even tho for Ryzen 3000, I (for whatever reason at the time) separated SOC & CLDO_VDDG voltage by 40mv based on:

just increased CLDO VDDP from 1.04v to 1.075v & AIDA shows drop from 64.1ns to 60.6ns (ran benchmark 3x & got 60.6 exactly each time)

tempted to try 1.090 to see if trend continues

[ivory lichen]

i like overclicking

[clever epoch]

My CLDO VDDP is only 0.9V 0_o

wonder if I can get tRCD 14 stable if I bump to 1.0V

[clever epoch]

can you send the link from where you got this from?

oh nvm

it's from the DDR4 OC guide

[modern walrus]

It's the guide yes

At the bottom.

Well first picture is from the bottom

Second is above frequency I believe

[modern walrus]

you can bump to 1.09v I believe lol

I got diminishing returns north of 1.075v but maybe your experience will be different

[modern walrus]

sooo does this get me a spot on Zen RamOC Leaderboard spreadsheet?

[lavish tundra]

No get a 5800x so less latency

[modern walrus]

lol the lowest latency on the sheet is like

well hold on

& heck

don't have a 5800x but I have a 10700KF? lol

[lavish tundra]

Thats not zen tho

So rekt

[lavish tundra]

Nah but fr nice oc

[modern walrus]

the top spot is 60.2

top 3 is 60.9 lol

not even sure how this works anyway. Is latency what decides rank?

[modern walrus]

I appreciate that

even the blind squirrel finds a nut type thing tho lol

[lavish tundra]

But fr 5800x will see far lower latency because single ccd

[modern walrus]

lol then I gotta buy another CPU

not to mention take apart loop & all that mission

repaste

plus this has to be old

[lavish tundra]

Also look at zen 3 scores

Since u 5900x

[modern walrus]

no 5000 series on here

oh crap wrong tab

[lavish tundra]

Ur on the zen 2 tab

[modern walrus]

lmao

I'm trash actually

48.3 is lowest Zen 3

back to BIOS for me

from thinking I'm like number 3 or 4 to unranked cuz I'm not even sub 60ns

doesn't look like any 59xx is in top 50 w/o >1900FCLK

[short blade]

yeah i was about to say

60.2ns top spot? seems wrong

i have 53.7ns and i don't even have b-die

if it's zen 2 that makes more sense

[lavish tundra]

Ayo @proven canopy any idea as to how i submit a result to the AM4 community CPU/RAM overclocking results spreadsheet

[proven canopy]

I'm sure there are instructions on the doc

[lavish tundra]

Just says add a new entry at the bottom but that is not working

Hmm strange clicking the link on here doesnt work but if i go to my history and click on the same thing it does

[bleak sable]

0 lost shares on +1300

So hopefully the issues fixed themselves

[modern walrus]

anyone know if WHEA service works on win11?

[faint tangle]

what gpu do you have again?

i can go up to +1450 on my 3060 ti, and it has a factory +100 on it