overclocking

[final glade]

I’ve been on YouTube and Google half the day

[olive portal]

u know what time it is

[quick rose]

Depends on your ram speed

[final glade]

3600 cl 16

[olive portal]

oh i was gonna say ping a techie

[quick rose]

Auto then

[final glade]

What’s the rationale there?

[quick rose]

Well

5000 series FCLK good to 1900-2000 mhz

SO if your ram was say, 4200

Auto wouldn't work

because FCLK 2100

So, anything below 4000 mhz ram, just auto

[final glade]

that’s helpful, thank you again

[quick rose]

YW

[sterile flame]

I can't reach 1900Mhz :(

[clever epoch]

time to buy another chip then

Give Lisa Su her tax and she will bless you with a chip that can do 2000 FCLK

[sterile flame]

Uh?

[cold jolt]

update agesa

should be able to hit at least 1900mhz on the latest one

[sterile flame]

1-14-2021 is my latest

[cold jolt]

sad

[tall pelican]

@quick rose what frequency is auto fclk good to on zen3? On zen2 it would max out 1:1 at 1800

[lunar mirage]

ive heard zen3 can get 1900

[sand lynx]

is it possible to overclock the human brain? asking for a friend

[vapid berry]

Cocaine

[blissful viper]

Idk I’ve tried it but it thermal throttled

Or that could work

[vapid berry]

Adderall

[sand lynx]

nobody in my vacinity carries coke

[vapid berry]

It's too bad there's no software out there to do it with

[sand lynx]

all I have are cheap Chinese parts

unrelated question, but is it also possible to replace my veins with rgb lights

[sterile flame]

What about undervolting? I need that

[vapid berry]

Just intake less electrolytes or something idk

Xd

[sand lynx]

what I do for a temporary boost is cause an adrenaline rush

but the heart attacks kinda take away from it

[vapid berry]

Gotta get a new psu

And do memory tests to see if you need new ram

[sand lynx]

Ok

[quick rose]

2000 if the chip will do it

[proven canopy]

Didn't some asus boards have a clock hole at 1900?

I've heard of 1900 failing to train but 1933 working stable

[sterile flame]

Asus user here. 1900 & 1933 fail for me

Might go back to my Aorus board I dunno

[final glade]

Did a quick port royal test run with 90 strix and a modest overclock

seems pretty solid

using strix air cooler, maxed at 74C

with +115 clock in msi afterburner, and maxed power limit

[final glade]

So with PBO2, I should combine both undervolting and increasing the precision boost speed simultaneously?

say, like a -5-10 under volt and a +100 mhz?

[sudden torrent]

The only answer is... it depends. Mostly binning of your specific chips determine how much you can overclock and undervolt.

[final glade]

(for 5950x on a dark hero)

[quick rose]

Best way to OC is to increment slowly and test

[sudden torrent]

Trial and error. Do one change at a time, a little at a time, until it crashes. I'd start with increasing PBO until it loses stability, then lowering voltage.

[quick rose]

Liike, 50-100 mh and stress test

It's not just punch numbers and go lol

[final glade]

Forgive the simplicity of this question, but how would I know if an overclock or an under volt failed? And what is the recourse in case that happens (without hitting cmos I guess)

[sudden torrent]

You run a stress test after every change, like prime95, and if it crashes, freezes, or a thread dies, then it's not stable.

[quick rose]

If you can get to BIOS, turn it back down

If you can't get to BIOS because it won't POST, CMOS reset

[final glade]

is prime05 preferred? I’ve been using r23

[quick rose]

Prime yes

[final glade]

so you guys recommend not undervolting initially

and just raising the precision boost clock?

[quick rose]

I mean, PBO should do all that for you

ALl you're doing with PBO is changing the limites

[final glade]

it has a field where I can enter a boost frequency

[quick rose]

NOt the clock itself

Right but it will still boost according to power and thermal limits

[final glade]

if it’s in auto yea?

[quick rose]

You're just telling the processor "Hey, if you can, you can go this fast now", not a forced clock

[sudden torrent]

Yeah PBO2 is a little different from traditional manual overclock

[final glade]

in other words, I leave pbo on with the boost frequency in auto (which has been fine thus far)

So now my next step is to undervolt then?

[quick rose]

Why undervolt?

[sudden torrent]

If you don't feel you need to bump the speed as high as it will go, you can just leave it on auto. Undervolting would be a good step after that to reduce temps and power use.

[final glade]

because The curve optimizer is achieving higher frequencies with thermal stability

[quick rose]

I mean, the more power you give it the faster it goes

[final glade]

according to the reviews I’ve watched

[quick rose]

my 3700x will pull 126 watts at 4.3 all core

[dull ginkgo]

my 3800x can peak 180 watts at 4.2 all core, around 140 watts average

[tall pelican]

with pbo2, you undervolt for better all core performance, fmax offset for single core

[sudden torrent]

When you're using the boosting, keeping lower temps is better

[final glade]

I just see that there’s PBO on one hand, and this curve optimizer on the other hand

[quick rose]

Holy crap

[dull ginkgo]

might've been 130w average, don't remember specifics, it was 4.2 all core 1.3v

[final glade]

Damn

[dull ginkgo]

yes yes I know about voltage, it's not my daily

[tall pelican]

I've done 220-240w on my 3900xt, that sounds right for an 8 core

[dull ginkgo]

Yea, it was interesting

early sample op

lemme see if I have the screenshot around

[final glade]

Additionally, I’m using ripjaws 3600 cl 16 2x 16 - i can juice this thing with 1.4 volts and tighten it without issue yea?

[dull ginkgo]

130-140w average, 180w spike

[quick rose]

Depends on the die you got

Maybe or maybe not. Grab Thaiphoon and see what the chips are

[dull ginkgo]

I think the usual lower end dies, like cjr djr and such don't like going over 1.35/1.36

[quick rose]

Ye

[dull ginkgo]

but B die goes brrrt and 1.5v daily

[quick rose]

wait, 1.35 is XMP

It's over 1.4 they don't like I think

[dull ginkgo]

It was barely over xmp iirc, might've misremembered

[tall pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561323111308328972/744764563056230540/Screenshot_134.png jedec ram because otherwise it would be 250+ and uncoolable

[dull ginkgo]

haha

@tall pelican is it a good aio?

[tall pelican]

was a custom loop, dont remember rad config at the time

I think just 240+280?

[final glade]

Aren’t all ram kits greater than 3200 considered b-die?

[tall pelican]

no

[dull ginkgo]

Nope

[quick rose]

No

[tall pelican]

most arent

[dull ginkgo]

B die is very rare, relative to all the ram

[quick rose]

Ye

[tall pelican]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xz_rQgNFQF3Dm0yHJBzldVkal5jmfI9Ug9tnpjky5Bc/edit#gid=0 if the xmp is on here, its bdie

[final glade]

Man, I’m such a goddamn noob at overclocking lol

[dull ginkgo]

yea

[final glade]

Thank you for the help, it’s appreciated

[dull ginkgo]

@tall pelican I thought there was a 3200c15 b die xmp? or did I misremember and it was 3600c15

[tall pelican]

there might be, its not worth getting and wont act like bdie

[dull ginkgo]

gotcha

[tall pelican]

there's oem bdie that stops scaling at 1.3v and ~3000mhz

[dull ginkgo]

3600c17 looks like bad xmp to get too xD

I'm not good nuff to have a sense of rcd ns, so I'm still just using cas ns to orient myself around that

[final glade]

Well, I have the ripjaws that are 3600 16 19 19 19 39

[dull ginkgo]

cjr/djr 99%

[tall pelican]

rcd isnt really important with good kits

[dull ginkgo]

hm

[tall pelican]

then you also get amd cpus that can only do cl+1 for rcd

[dull ginkgo]

hmm

[final glade]

So essentially, I’m comparing the advertised speed and extended latencies to that chart

and if it doesn’t match, it ain’t b-die

which then means what in terms of the voltage/OC I can apply?

[tall pelican]

(or bdie not worth buying)

the bdie in that sheet should all scale with voltage to 1.6v+

[final glade]

So this thaiphoon burner is a software that does what?

it basically provides a die density?

[tall pelican]

barely even that

it reads the spd that the manufacturer programs

and if it wasnt programmed, it guesses

the guess for hynix 8gbit is afr, samsung 8gbit is bdie, and I want to say micron 16gbit is revb

[final glade]

Yea Hynix m die

goddamnit lol

Got em pretty cheap, 140 bucks for 32 gigs of those ripjaws v

But they’re currently running at advertised speeds

[quick rose]

That sucks. mine are C die

[final glade]

what’s the hierarchy?

[olive portal]

U can check cashe stability with fortnite https://youtu.be/iygfNlc70yw

[final glade]

so is it better to curve optimize per core, theoretically?

and would I go more aggressive on the better cores? Or the opposite? Lighten up on the better cores and push the other ones?

[sudden torrent]

The better cores (as identified by Ryzen Master) are the ones that were proven during QC to be able to boost the highest, so those are the ones you want to boost more

Unless you really feel the need to go that deep into overclocking, it won't have much difference. It's mostly the extreme overclockers and benchmarkers that worry about 100 MHz here and there.

[final glade]

Ok so I am thoroughly friggin confused lol

my results are not meeting the expectation here

[sudden torrent]

The more complex things get, the more likely something will go wrong

[final glade]

so, I had pbo enabled in both locations, dynamic OC enabled, I had curve optimizer enabled, pbo limits disabled, curve is negative with 5 undervolt to all cores

cinebench r23 multicore test - all cores ram 3.4ghz. Now, I went back to bios default settings (with just xmp enabled) - same test runs all cores at 3.75ghz

[sudden torrent]

Keep in mind that when you change the PBO settings, you're only telling it "you're allowed to try to get here" but that doesn't mean that it will. If you pushed the boosts too high, it might just stop boosting. Temperature plays a huge role in this too.

[final glade]

With occasional spikes here and there, the former settings kept it rock solid at 3.4

my temps haven’t been higher than 63C

Well, 66

[sudden torrent]

Also, you might need to allow more voltage instead of undervolting, not every chip responds well to that.

If you're doing an all core load, more voltage is going to be needed

[final glade]

But why are my clocks higher in default settings

than with all that other stuff enabled

[sudden torrent]

Because default has higher voltage

probably

[final glade]

Which of those modifications result in a reduction in voltage then?

[sudden torrent]

You said a -5 undervolt right?

Try going with flat 0 or even positive.

[final glade]

But isn’t the undervolt supposed to bring the processor back to current voltage, but just match to a higher frequency corresponding to the amount you undervolted by?

Since it’s thermally fine

[sudden torrent]

I did mention earlier there would be a lot of trial and error. Not every chip will react the same to the same modifications, and every chip has its default voltage set slightly different as well. For all we know, yours is already factory undervolted.

All you can really do is try things until you get the response you want.

[final glade]

interesting

So what is the best way to provide more voltage?

In curve optimizer?

[sudden torrent]

In theory, you are correct. It's supposed to change the mapped frequency/voltage setting. But, if you have a low binned chip for example, you might not be able to undervolt it at all because it won't boost past stock.

Most people will just leave PBO at stock and call it good, it performs well at auto overclocking itself.

[final glade]

So with just pbo on, and fmax enabled, I’m currently getting 4.5 all core

so that’s an improvement

79C

[sudden torrent]

Definitely an improvement. You don't want temps getting much higher than that.

[final glade]

no curve optimizer here

well, didn’t AMD say that 5950x is intended to be in the 90s? Lol

[sudden torrent]

90 is max

Posted just now in another channel

[final glade]

https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/

[sudden torrent]

That worries me. It sounds like the marketing team needs to have a talk with the technical team.

[final glade]

Lol

[sudden torrent]

"Yes. I want to be clear with everyone that AMD views temps up to 90C (5800X/5900X/5950X) and 95C (5600X) as typical and by design for full load conditions. Having a higher maximum temperature supported by the silicon and firmware allows the CPU to pursue higher and longer boost performance before the algorithm pulls back for thermal reasons," Hallock said.

Up to 90C, not over for the 5950

95C for the 5600 which is... odd

[brazen walrus]

that's just a tad high... lol

[left blade]

Deadbush#1449 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[brazen walrus]

seems like it shouldn't be right, but who am I to question engineers

[sudden torrent]

That's the director of MARKETING saying that, I bet the technical team was panicking when he did.

[brazen walrus]

ahhh

[sudden torrent]

Official spec still lists 90C as the max load temp, any higher you'll hit thermal cutoff.

[final glade]

Well, I figured out what was keeping my multicore capped at 3.4 vs 4.5

It’s enabling dynamic OC

apparently there’s more to it then just enabling it

[final glade]

Woohoo

4.65 ghz all core

[olive portal]

I’m a couple 1000 points away from that score

A COUPLE

Rip dead pixel on your screen

[sterile flame]

How to oc locked cpu

[olive portal]

Get a key and unlock it

[sterile flame]

[olive portal]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-key-unlock-keys-locked-ready-player-one-movie-gif-9439382

This is how intel k cpus are made

[final glade]

That’s not a dead pixel lol

[olive portal]

We get a key to unlock the non k cpus

[olive portal]

What is it then?

[final glade]

No idea, but there’s no dead pixel here lmao

But yea, finally figured this out

I settled on 4.6 ghz all cores above a current of 45 amps - that runs at about 76C

and about 5.1 ish ghz single core here

[olive portal]

Up the cashe

Oc cashe

[final glade]

I might undervolt now in pbo2

and see what that does

[olive portal]

OC THE CASHE FREE FPS GAIN

[final glade]

how do you OC the cache?

[olive portal]

What mobo?

[final glade]

dark hero

[olive portal]

Aight to tweaker then right you will see ring down bin, below it is the cashe

@final glade it looks like this

[final glade]

What the hell is this lol

[olive portal]

CASHE

OR THE FREE FPS

[final glade]

I haven’t read anything about overclocking the cache yet

[olive portal]

Just change the numbers

@final glade don’t do anything yet tho

What’s your cpu ghz and voltage? @final glade

[final glade]

multicore or single core?

[olive portal]

Multi core

[final glade]

Set to 4.6 right now

at 1.3 volts, but it never reaches it

[olive portal]

Ok start off with cashe of 40 then slow work it up till instability. WARNING PC MAY NO BOOTO AND MANUAL BIOS RESET MAY BE NEEDED

[final glade]

yea I’m good lol, I already had to hit cmos three times

With mini heart attacks

[olive portal]

Do it then

Max I’d say is 44

45 maybe if lucky

But I’d start off with 40 just to make sure u can boot

[olive portal]

Btw u want the top and bottom the same

@final glade

[final glade]

Lol

one thing at a time for now, I’m still new at this

[olive portal]

Tell me how high u able to get it

[final glade]

And I’m getting fantastic results already

[olive portal]

Wdym?

[final glade]

I just finally got all cores to boost to 4.6 ghz stable at 76C all core with dynamic OC getting to 5.1 ghz single core

without crashes

[olive portal]

Voltage spikes 📈

Well oc the cashe

[final glade]

Well yea, voltage spikes for the single core - when gaming

When doing heavy multi threading stuff it optimizes for that automatically

this dynamic OC on the dark hero is amazing

[olive portal]

Was overclocking the ram and wouldn’t post to windows but was stuck in the bios load up. It turns out I can click the restart button and it loads safe mode

Wish I knew that before

[echo sun]

XD

[little sluice]

quick question, whats the average voltage for r5 1600 at 4ghz? im stuck at 3.9 at 1.4v

[olive portal]

Silicon degradation 📈📈📈📈📈

[little sluice]

damn

[olive portal]

I’d lower the voltage if u want that thing to last

Btw zen isn’t meant to oc

[little sluice]

1.38v will be good?

[olive portal]

I think it’s 1.25v and below to stop silicon degradation

[little sluice]

but 1.24v its stock on full load

[olive portal]

That’s good

Below 1.25

Btw if u ran stress test for at least like 10 to 30m u might’ve degraded the silicon already so it can’t reach its old clocks

Maybe

U have to check for yourself

[little sluice]

by default im using stock clock, im raising it only when im playing something like watchdogs2. i cant play stress test for that long on 3.9 cause of the temperatures

[little sluice]

I will keep that in mind

thx for answer

[candid lance]

I managed to oc my i9 9900k to 5.0 ghz on all cores and kept it under 80°c

[olive portal]

pretty ok

[olive portal]

what voltage?

[kind belfry]

lets go! congrats dude

[olive portal]

overclocking is a jojo reference to hamon overdrive

[candid lance]

I don't remember exactly since I'm at school rn but I think it was 1.3-1.32

[sharp swan]

Any good overclock for delta rgb 3600mhz ram?

[quick rose]

Teamgroup ram? Highly doubtful

Recommend downloading Thaiphoon and seeing what chips that actually has on it http://www.softnology.biz/files.html

[sharp swan]

Ok I’ll check it out

[tall pelican]

or post the full xmp timings

[solar hill]

Hey, What is the Safe SOC voltage for Ryzen 3 2200G on a Asus TUF B450 Plus.??
What about VEga 8 GPU safe voltage?

[charred lance]

so, I am running a rx 5700 xt at 2150MHz with an under volt to 1090mV and vram at 1800MHz I've gotten it to run stable before resetting my pc but I wanted to get someone who is more experienced with overclocking to give their opinion

[tall pelican]

@solar hill 1.2v soc, and the vega8 gpu on it uses soc voltage, so 1.2 as well

[tall pelican]

Reference or AIB? AIB should be able to do higher mem clock, but otherwise looks normal for a reference card

[carmine vine]

🕙

clocks

[charred lance]

Aib but the cooler really sucks, it's the xfx raw ii

[solar hill]

thnx

[ember steeple]

hi how i can make a xmp profile

[quick rose]

Yo can't? It's programmed onto the ram itself

[ember steeple]

when i tried to make change to anther profile i dont find any profile so i can activate the xmp

[quick rose]

Is your ram in the right slots?

[ember steeple]

yes

a2

[quick rose]

Furthest from CPU, skip a slot, install ram, blank slot

Oh, just one stick?

[ember steeple]

yes

they says to me it is 3000mhz

but the MB only accept 2666

[quick rose]

What board and CPU?

[ember steeple]

i dont know how

b460m asrock

[quick rose]

Ah, yeah with a Core i5 the fastest you can go is 2666

[ember steeple]

cpu i5 10400f

so i cant xmp ?

[quick rose]

Yeah, the fastest it will work is 2666

[ember steeple]

is it batter to change the ram and the MB or only to buy 2 sticks of ram?

and then try to activate the xmp

[quick rose]

You definitely need another stick of ram

dual channel is a 20-30% performance boost but it will never run faster than 2666

On that motherboard

If you want faster ram you'll need a Z490 motherboard

[ember steeple]

is it will be that much different ?

i only play and surf youtube twich like this

[quick rose]

If you play games, a second stick of ram is a big difference

But XMP won't work on that board since the XMP is 3000 and the board will only do 2666 I think

[ember steeple]

yes for sure i will buy another stick

i can buy 3000 ram

but they give me 2666

or it will be error ?

or it will run good but at 2666

[quick rose]

It's not an error

The motherboard limits the ram speed to 2666

[ember steeple]

i am thinking to buy high ram for future upgrade as one time not wasting money

[quick rose]

It will run just fine at 2666

[ember steeple]

ok

i got it

so for now i buy 2 stick and then i upgrade other things

what you suggest for upgrades

[quick rose]

yes, that sounds good

[ember steeple]

like the steps

[willow quest]

from my understanding it's best to only use the same exact RAM stick for expansion, I've heard that issues can arise if you start mixing and matching

although I only saw that on like one Reddit post

[quick rose]

Nah, they will all just run at the slowest speed

[quick rose]

IDK, depends on what you have now and what you want down the road

Honestly the 100400F is a great CPU for gaming and other things

Shouldn't need to upgrade if all you do is game and watch YouTube

[ember steeple]

yes

my GPU in 1660S

[quick rose]

SHould be fine for 1080p games

[ember steeple]

ok

so only i need to change the ram to 2 strick rams and my MB for higher hmz

mhz

[quick rose]

If you want to.

[ember steeple]

i dont know ><

i am not experience in this things what is good what is not that is why i asked

[willow quest]

the only reason I considered upgrading my RAM was A) I play Escape From Tarkov, notorious for needing a large amount of RAM; B) I'm a computer science student and use at my peak about 18 to 20 GB of RAM

[ember steeple]

mmm

[quick rose]

16 gb of ram should be fine for 99% of games

with a Z490 upgrade and 3200 mhz ram, the 10400F out performs the AMD 3600 in games

[ember steeple]

ok thank you i will do that

thank you so much for this advises and your time

[quick rose]

You're welcome!

[tall pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/its-fine-dog-fine-dog-fire-meme-gif-16250404

[safe timber]

Hey so I finally upgraded to a high end 3080 and I thought ok I can now power through some games at max settings and now here I am wondering If I am bottlenecked because it seems like almost every single game I play puts a load on the cpu but not the gpu. Like is there something I'm missing?

[arctic dune]

What CPU do you have?

[burnt tiger]

does anyone know abt overclocking ram? I am new and want to find the most stable clock for my friend he is running ddr4 gskill aegis ram what is a safe voltage that won't make him overheat?

and also in the bios when he puts the voltage up does he put the frequency up or no? sry i am very new

[quick rose]

Check the pinned messages for a starter OC guide 🙂

[sterile flame]

My RAM is at 14-14-14-14-30-44 @ 3600, but if I follow the rest of the safe DRAM calculator configuration other than T1 Gear Down then I run into problems or can't boot.

[clever epoch]

Try messing with the voltage. you might have gotten worse sticks

[clever epoch]

need more information on what RAM. In either case it's just trial and error. Try and get the memory as fast as reasonably possible, then adjust the timings to be as tight as possible. Then try the memory a step lower than the fastest speed, adjust memory timings again, and run benchmarks to see which is better

[sterile flame]

1.45v

[clever epoch]

try dropping voltage a bit

if it's samsung B die it goes unstable at higher temps

[sterile flame]

Yeah it's b die

What's the undesirable temperature for b die?

[clever epoch]

goes unstable past 55C?

around there

[sterile flame]

Oof

[clever epoch]

It could be temps, or you just lost the silicon lottery

it do be like that sometimes

B die is notorious for having a huge variety in quality.

There's really, really, insanely good chips, and at the same time there can be some really, really crappy ones

and the best (worst) part is they could end up on the same stick by chance, and you're bottlenecked by the performance of the worst chip

[sterile flame]

You saying I should swap slots 2/4 with 1/3?

I did make sure the same sticks from the same package were in 2/4

[clever epoch]

Go with whatever your motherboard recommends

[sterile flame]

I have 4 sticks 4x8

?

[clever epoch]

ohhhh

4 sticks

you should have said that sooner

that changes things

[sterile flame]

Ye. Wasn't a 4 pack so just to be safe I made the same exact ones from the same package to be in the main slots

[clever epoch]

I'm not sure, but you should run the ones from the same package in the same channels

[sterile flame]

Yep

[clever epoch]

4 sticks of B die changes things

what CPU do you have?

[sterile flame]

5600X

[tall pelican]

with 4 sticks of bdie, the inner 2 are cooking

[clever epoch]

they'll be warmer for sure

[sterile flame]

Opa Vai de mine

[clever epoch]

but if it's not temperature, it could be just the fact that B die is also notoriously harder to run

you may want to set vSOC

[sterile flame]

The XMP for 4400 was 1.45 but for the 4266 it was 1.3 so I just manually changed it to 1.3 now.

[clever epoch]

interesting

[sterile flame]

VDDCR is 1.42 is that alright?

[clever epoch]

that should be OK

[sterile flame]

I don't use the XMP, I just copied the voltage.

[clever epoch]

you could even try 1.4, maybe

[sterile flame]

I mean I'm down to 3600 tho

[clever epoch]

I was referring to vSOC, which is voltage for your CPU memory controller

[sterile flame]

Maybe I'm overdoing it

Oh

[clever epoch]

yeah but you need voltage for subtimings

what timings is it rated for at XMP

[sterile flame]

VDDCR is referred to as VSOC?

[clever epoch]

No, VDDCR is something else

[sterile flame]

Where do I look for voltage subtimings

[clever epoch]

you need voltage to get memory to hit lower timings

[sterile flame]

So much different acronyms voltage settings on just the main page on Asus

[clever epoch]

vSOC should be around your vCore voltage settings

I think

[sterile flame]

Yeah it did not like 1.3v at all

Shuts down and restart few times

[clever epoch]

not surprised

[sterile flame]

I should hit 15 timings if 1.3?

Should I go higher?

[clever epoch]

I wouldn't drop to 1.3. At least 1.35, I would try 1.4

for vDIMM

I would also bump up vSOC to 1.2

[sterile flame]

I can't find this VSOC

[proven canopy]

What board do you have?

[clever epoch]

Do you see uncore voltage?

[sterile flame]

Asus B550-F and it's rated up to 4400Mhz on RAM

No. All I see is soc/uncore mode which is disabled

[sterile flame]

CL19. I'm just going over everything and I'm still nowhere. Sorry I overlooked that question.

[clever epoch]

3600 C14 is pushing it with 4 sticks. I think overclocking your SOC would help, but idk what it's called in your BIOS

[sterile flame]

I know overclocking with 4 sticks is more limited than 2, but I didn't know that applied to lower timings as well. I thought at 3600 I'd be fine, but I guess not.

[tall pelican]

for a 5600x, it should be fine with 4000+ on 4 sticks

[sterile flame]

Can't get over 1800 fabric clock

[tall pelican]

Vddp and vddgs?

1.15 soc, .95 vddp and 1.0 vddg iod/ccd should get you to 1866+

[sterile flame]

I'll let you know when I get home, or did I misunderstand that since you gave me the numbers?

[sterile flame]

@quick rose What's with Thread Error Handler in TestMem5?

Says TM5 crash, but it never stopped and behaves like everything is fine

[frail dock]

so umm gm

[clever epoch]

If you can't get over 1800 fclk I'm afraid you got a pretty bad bin

[sterile flame]

Sweeeeeeeet

Btw I have my timings 15-15-15-15-36-51 just to be safe and @ 1.4v

ResizeBar keeps resetting to On in BIOS and it's basically useless. Causes more in game problems than good.

What name is ram under for temperature sensors because there is nothing obvious.

All I've seen were 70° and 30° so I'm assuming the 33° was the RAM at 1.45v

Will temperature drop if voltage is unchanged, but timings are looser?

I haven't had a problem with my 14 timings + T1 Gear Down, 48 Ohms. Just issues if I mess with the rest.

[sudden torrent]

afaik ram doesn't usually have a temperature sensor

[tall pelican]

Gskills generally have temp sensors

[clever epoch]

I have sensors in my FlareX. I managed to read them using Thaiphoon burner, but I have to manually refresh the page to get readings

[proven canopy]

They show up on hwinfo64

[olive portal]

yea ik how to set a phone fire

[charred lance]

teach me.

oh wait, i know, buy a note 7

[short blade]

seeing mixed answers online about flashing a bios from a 3x8pin 3080 to a 2x8pin model

does it work/do anything for the power limit?

have a 3080 vision oc with 370W limit

[tall pelican]

dont bother trying flashing a 3x8 bios to a 2x8 card

50% chance it "bricks" it

if it doesnt brick, it doesnt pull full power

[clever epoch]

1. Wouldn't flash without dual BIOS support
2. If you're flashing to a version with fewer pins, odds are that it isn't worth
3. Flashing to a different BIOS may kill an output port (if not the card entirely)

[modern breach]

Samsung b-die 3600 8x4 16 16 16 36 here , can I get advice for oc ram for a few extra mhgz

I wish I could just give my system to buildzoid and have him oc my ram. Bet that sicko would like it too. 😂

[tall pelican]

Max out your IF, then loosen timings to 18-20-20-40 and match the if with mem clock. A lot is pinned

You probably have thermal headroom to 1.4-1.45v for vdimm

[modern breach]

What’s IF stand for

Inner feminist

Internal fromage

Interesting facts

Instant flubber

Index frame rate

I’m going to sleep but I’m gonna dream about Maxxing out my IF,

Institutional faculties

[sterile flame]

I dunno man. Past 3800 it really isn't worth it. And for 4000 for the few who can do FCLK 2000 stable in all workloads

[proven canopy]

Read killwill's posts here #535602074130317352 message

[proven canopy]

Never heard of this

[sudden torrent]

Flashing the wrong bios on anything has a chance to brick it, or worse.

[proven canopy]

Very hard to actually brick a gpu that way

You can almost always re-flash the card as long as you have any other kind of gpu/igpu just to get display out.

And at worst there's always the ch341a method

[sudden torrent]

Yeah but until you repair it, it's basically unusable. You can usually repair a brick. I've done it after bad android flashes

[proven canopy]

"Brick" means it's unrepairable

[bleak sable]

How do I see where my OCCT errors are

like what they are i guess

[fierce hornet]

How do i overclock my mobile graphics card? Its the 1650ti

[weary valley]

MSI Afterburner

Make sure your laptop has super good cooling.

[fierce hornet]

Ok thank you

[tall pelican]

Just bad flash bricking, if you don't have a second gpu

[proven canopy]

That's not bricking though

If anything it's "soft bricking"

[tall pelican]

Its a brick until you fix it

[sterile flame]

still not bricking

[sudden torrent]

Everyone is getting technical today... Oh wait it's a tech thread, silly me I should expect that.

[proven canopy]

TL;DR if you're considering flashing your gpu, keep some other form of display out on hand

[robust wagon]

So I have an issue! I installed a new AIO and 2 sticks of RAM and I had previously OC my GPU (2060 Super) now when I play Warzone for about 2 hours my PC restarts and I get KERNEL MODE HEAP CORRUPTION, does anyone have any advice or have seen this before?

[pliant cloak]

Driver update needed or graphics card malfunction, lower your OC and see if that helps maybe overheating or something, are you running beyond voltage limits? obviously check for driver updates.

[inner tangle]

Okay, so I've been informed about from #cpus-mobo-and-memory about Auto OC in my R5 5600x. How do I approach overclocking its chip when it's already overclocking by default?

[robust wagon]

@pliant cloak I have updated drivers with DDU I now have 32gbs of RAM on MSI afterburner it runs at 7000 MHz and GPU Clock is at 1470 MHz the highest temp I've seen is 60 degrees. All those numbers are when I have afterburner open and game running

[pliant cloak]

I bet it is a driver error of some kinds, lots of things you could try like rolling back to a previous driver version, complete unistalling the driver from your machine and reinstalling fresh. It could also be another driver from a different piece of hardware that is conflicting, so you'd need to check for any issues using "driver verifier manager". If all your drivers check out and it still gives you errors on old drivers, you might want to diagnose your RAM.

[robust wagon]

How would I diagnose my RAM?

[pliant cloak]

windows memory diagnostic

I've used it many of times to trouble shoot issues where my RAM was the root cause but not obvious. It takes a few steps to complete the process but it is rather straight forward.

[robust wagon]

Okay thank you! I hope I can figure it out!

[inner tangle]

Knowing there are potential faults on DIMM sticks, I'm keeping my 2400-DDR4 double-sticks as backup, in case either of my 3200-speed sticks get faulty and had to ship them for replacements.

[short blade]

interesting observation.. have a ryzen 5 3600x that was previously undervolted by 84mV. was getting occasional audio crackling that i thought was my headphones starting to fail, but saw it mentioned that audio crackling can be caused by some voltages (cpu, vddg, and/or soc) being too low, changed cpu undervolt to 72mV and the audio crackling is gone

[sterile flame]

what's the best stable overclock with the 5600x with the stock cooler?

[wheat ether]

Kind of stuff you have to test on yourown

[sterile flame]

You payed $300 for a CPU and you're using the stock cooler?

[weary valley]

It's a decent cooler

[short spruce]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sterile flame]

what is overclocking? can i do it on my laptop? will i damage anything/lose any data?

o ok

[severe forum]

you could

[sterile flame]

sorry im not good with computers when it comes to stuff like overclocking, building pcs, etc

[lost cliff]

Alright listen I'm new to overclocking and what are your thoughts on R5 3600 and any advice?

Got a overkill aftermarket that won't be an issue

[severe forum]

[lost cliff]

[vapid berry]

Only 65w?

Sounds fishy

[sterile flame]

"decent"

[weary valley]

Oh this is #overclocking

I did not realize that, sorry

[sterile flame]

it WILL let you get to the highest overclock it can reach though

only if you have a good airflow case that is

[tame knoll]

I overclocked my i7 9700k to 5.4 GHZ

Pretty stable actually

ima tone it down though

[proven canopy]

@tame knoll Post benchmarks

Those are chiller clocks

[brisk timber]

Best oc for a 2070 super???

[sudden torrent]

It depends on your binning. Trial and error will get you your answer. What works for one person won't be stable for another.

[vague gull]

inb4 they dont

[proven canopy]

Possible, but golden chip if ambient lol, and only for light benches

[vague gull]

lmfao

forks did i tell u

lililabs does game hosting now

[sterile flame]

It isn't unless you like 95°c and somehow is an acceptable temperature claimed by AMD, but not for any other Zen 3 chip. People who think it's decent is because the temperature is being tamed by clocks dropping off the cliff and losing significant performance.

[sterile flame]

Laptops are usually already at their limit. Undervolting is a popular option. Let it do it's thing and boost. Don't overclock which you most likely can't.

[sterile flame]

TDP is unrealistic to real life performance. A 5600X can go over 120watts easily.

[sterile flame]

Just enable PBO

[vapid berry]

Ok

And 65w thermal dissipation sounds fishy

[sudden torrent]

I have my R7 2700 (non-X), a 65 Watt chip, overclocked. It pulls a peak of 140+ Watts.

[vapid berry]

Conveniently nowhere on the internet can I find an actual number to put to any of the AMD stock coolers

[sudden torrent]

Funny how that works isn't it 😅
They're only designed to cool the chips at stock. If you undervolt it you might be able to overclock a little on stock cooling.

[vapid berry]

The cooler on my i7-4790 is basic extruded aluminum, keeps it cool. I wouldn't know how many watts the cpu draws, probably not that much at full load @~3.8GHz, beyond knowing the TDP is 84w

[sudden torrent]

You can find out by looking at CPU Package Power in HWinfo

[vapid berry]

A modern AMD stock cooler would be superior no doubt, so there lies the question, why would an AMD stock cooler only be able to dissipate 65 watts?

Haven't touched my computer in months, I doubt I've even had HWiNFO installed on it

Hundreds of miles away unfortunately

[sudden torrent]

Cooler technology hasn't really advanced much. It's still just a piece of thermally conductive metal in a certain shape to maximize heat dissipation with a fan on it.

When I had my FX 8300 I used the stock cooler from my older Phenom II x4 that had a higher TDP, it overclocked quite well on that.

[sterile flame]

65watt cooling is boosting for so little. Overclocking aside it's just bad when it can't even sustain boosts even half decent.

[sudden torrent]

Airflow would help that problem, as far as stock coolers go the Wraiths aren't terrible. Not good, but not terrible.

[sleek hamlet]

any cooler recomendation for a r5 3600?

[sterile flame]

That statement doesn't make much sense. I mean of course airflow helps, but adding more fans doesn't fix the problem that is a copper disc attached to cheap thick aluminum fins.

The chip can't even reach its full potential because it's limited by that cooler.

[sudden torrent]

Right, it doesn't fix the problem but it does help alleviate it partially

[sterile flame]

Your budget?

[sleek hamlet]

like 140

[sudden torrent]

Air cooling is fine for that chip, but with that budget you could go liquid if you wanted.

I saw earlier on #675035372253741092 the Hyper 212 had a promo code + rebate deal

[sterile flame]

What currency

[sleek hamlet]

i was thinking of buying the nh-d15 but i think thats a little overkill

[sleek hamlet]

us dollars

[sterile flame]

A Deepcool GAMMAX is 100% perfectly fine for it. That noctua is straight overkill, but nice nonetheless

Or Arctic Freezer 34

[sudden torrent]

Yeah that's only a 65 Watt chip, and if you overclock you can roughly double that. A decent air cooler can do 150 Watt or better cooling capacity.

[vapid berry]

Extruded cooler much like mine, very basic and small, wouldn't the newer AMD coolers be easily superior? Seems like they would do fine maintaining an adequate stock boost

[sleek hamlet]

and what about aio coolers?

[sterile flame]

TDP is again, completely not reflective of real life wattage. You should get 74° peak or less with the GAMMAX

[sterile flame]

Even more overkill. It's just cool to look at.

[sleek hamlet]

oh ok

[sterile flame]

Overclocking headroom is hit or miss with the 3600 and its nothing but decreased gains for significantly more cost, that is if you win the lottery with a 3600. Most don't see past 4.1-4.2Ghz

Better to have the latest BIOS and chipset updates and simply enable PBO

[vapid berry]

^^

Set & forget

[sleek hamlet]

got it thx!!

[sterile flame]

212 is hot garbage

Barely better perf than a prism

[sterile flame]

Anyone got the AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.0?

[lost cliff]

What would you suggest instead?

[dull ginkgo]

Get a SE-224-xt :P

[lost cliff]

Ordered.

[upper rock]

Prism actually performs better

[proven canopy]

Source?

[upper rock]

Vintage did tests himself

[sterile flame]

Finally out of beta on my Asus and installed AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.0. PBO Advanced is still significantly better than PBO On/Auto. Or maybe not, but to me a 600 point difference in Cinebench matters.

[upper rock]

@proven canopy

I also did some tests on my 3800x, 3600x, and 3600 to check (also compared both to a Spire)

[proven canopy]

Well you're wrong, lol

212 wins in noise normalized performance

[upper rock]

Straight cooling, Prism wins

By a few degrees

+RGB

Acoustics not factored

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sterile flame]

My effective clocks are higher though. 4.65 all cores/threads. That's a change.

That's the only irl change I see. My effective clocks are much more in line with my perf when under load.

[orchid flame]

Straight cooling being 100%?

😐

Oh god I wish I was on PC so I could send the testing data

[quick rose]

Noise normalized. Who runs their cooler at 40 DB?

Real world performance Prism is better lol

[proven canopy]

Source?

Aegis sent me this a while ago, haven't looked around myself https://www.computerbase.de/2018-05/amd-wraith-prism-boxed-kuehler-test/2/

https://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/wraith-max-and-wraith-spire-cooler/1

[quick rose]

I got my 3700X and put the 212 on it first. then deinstalled and installed Prism. For me it was slightly better, like 2-3C under load

No noise normalized anything because IMO that's not real world

People install and use whatever curve is in there

[proven canopy]

But which was louder when the prism was 2-3C cooler

[quick rose]

Heck if I remember

That was at 37000x launch

[proven canopy]

That's pretty integral to the comparison though lol

[quick rose]

Depends on if the person wants cooler or quieter

[vague gull]

my delta fans can cool my cpu

[proven canopy]

Anyway, no matter what I'd never tell someone to spend $35 to get a 212 when the chip comes with the prism

[vague gull]

at 30k rpm

[quick rose]

We are absolutely 100% in agreement there

212 is a waste of money period IMO with better cheaper coolers on the market

[neon rapids]

it was good like 5 years ago

[proven canopy]

It's been $20 from time to time, I'd get it over a gammax 400 when I actually need to buy a cooler

[neon rapids]

oh wait its like 15 years old

[proven canopy]

Longer than that lol, D14/d15 have existed for a long time

[sterile flame]

it depends on the airflow of the case sara

[dull ginkgo]

waa

15 years

wasn't d15 like 2015

[neon rapids]

a year or two before that but yeah

[proven canopy]

D15 was basically a d14 with better ram clearance

[lost cliff]

Gammax coolers aren't bad at all people need to start looking at them

[cobalt rapids]

212 rgb black when it goes on sale for like 35 or less is fine

depending on whether you care at all about looks

[severe forum]

212 is kinda bad

[cobalt rapids]

the difference is so marginal below that point

I can echo what vintage said about prism and 212 performing basically identically on a 3700X, prism's just a bit louder at max load

[upper rock]

Prism is free with 3700x tho

More worth imo

[cobalt rapids]

yeah, we're all on board there I think lol

becomes more a matter of what you have and what you want

[raven sequoia]

im building my first computer and wanted to know if overclocking JUST the gpu while gaming and working without the cpu is possible

[tall pelican]

ya

[sudden torrent]

Completely, you don't need to do both

[raven sequoia]

ok thank you!

[sterile flame]

If this is about not wanting to touch the BIOS, just make sure you enable XMP/DOCP

[crisp chasm]

i overclocked my pc to 2.0 GHz

[wicked vale]

how do u overclock

im srry that idk anything but how do u overclock?

[weary valley]

What motherboard and CPU do you have?

[vernal sail]

@crisp chasm you probably are not the same guy but found someone w same profile pic on a form talking about xeons

@wicked vale it varys between different MOBOs

I am a ruthless economy boy so i am used to the good old grey on blue

[crisp chasm]

nah

[crisp chasm]

for gpu use msi afterburner

i havnt overclocked my cpu yet

[vernal sail]

What cpu?

[crisp chasm]

wdym?

[vernal sail]

Jus curious

[crisp chasm]

i7-7700k

got it for a really good deal

[vernal sail]

Nice

You can bring those to 4.8 real nice

Some even get to 5ghz

[mint mountain]

Can someone help me over clocking my 10600k? I have never tried over clocking before

@vernal sail do you know how to help me

I have a msi mag z490 gaming plus

[tall pelican]

Look up a walkthrough for your motherboard

[sterile flame]

just go to max safe voltage then individually increase each core until it crashes

[tall pelican]

Max set voltage you should go is 1.45v, socket llc5 is best, and remove power limits

[vernal sail]

Yeah, what they said on the CPu

[mint mountain]

As a person who has never worked with this before I would literally have no idea what to do

[vernal sail]

Oh ok

you first want to get into the bios on boot

[sterile flame]

my explanation is the most simple thing ever

just look at manual

[mint mountain]

Any programs that I need to test performance/stability

[vernal sail]

Mash del or f2 or something on boot

[sterile flame]

p95

[vernal sail]

Uuh i like fur mark and its built in cpu burner

[quick rose]

Forks has a great pinned guide on where to stary

[sterile flame]

^

[quick rose]

Right in this channel

[proven canopy]

Fitz gives good advice

I recommend occt for an intro to stability testing

[tall pelican]

Reading a guide is nice and all, but if you aren't familiar with your bios, you have no idea where to start

[sterile flame]

manual

[tall pelican]

Manual doesn't tell you where vcore, llc or power limita are

[mint mountain]

I’ll look up a YouTube video and if I need more help I’ll come back with some more specific questions

[proven canopy]

shameless plug https://hwbot.org/team/wegg/#Members

[tall pelican]

Ayyy

[mint mountain]

Im sure you are giving good advice I just dont know how to change voltage and stuff

[sterile flame]

hm

i would probs place inbetween jake/yams/sips

[mint mountain]

@vernal sail does the cpu burner ever stop

[wicked vale]

I have a i7 10700F, Nivdia Rtx 2060 and for motherboard a

i think dorado intel h470

[sterile flame]

just go into afterburner and increase core, memory until it crashes

[proven canopy]

Max out power limit as well

[dusty gulch]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/39778109

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/58244829

That score is bonkers

Almost a 2070s

[sterile flame]

Na

the 2700x isn't even overclocked

shame on you

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18163070

You even had better ram and mine still performed better

[tall pelican]

dr > sr

[quick rose]

moar chips, more faster

[tall pelican]

just rank interleaving

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/12514945 there's a 2700x score for you to beat

interleaving gives like 10-20% more cpu score in timespy for some dumb reason

[quick rose]

It seems to in other synthetics as well

Real world it doesn't seem to do much

[tall pelican]

no, like timespy is the worst abuser of it

[sterile flame]

4.4GHz with 3600mhz ram

[tall pelican]

and?

[sterile flame]

my 2700x won't go past 4.2 at any voltage

[tall pelican]

that's a you issue

[weary valley]

You can't overclock that CPU since you need a 10700k or a 10700kf and a Z490 motherboard.

[mint mountain]

Ok I’m back

I tried over clocking my cpu to 5gzh on all cores but that wasn’t stable, so I tried 5gzh on two and 4.9 on the rest and that was stable the only problem, was that in hardware info it said all cores were around 99 degrees C and it was throttling

So it was only actually around 4.8 on all cores

I don’t know if it’s just my cooler

But in this video I’m watching this guy has the same settings but only sitting at 85 degrees max with a dark rock

Bruh my voltage was auto set to 1.57 that makes a lot more sense

I set it to 1.3 and it’s doing a lot better

With the same score as it was doing with the really high voltage

@tall pelican could you help me rn

[vernal sail]

Is it your fan curve?

Bc a dark rock should tame that easy

And 100ish c is NOT a place you want to be

Wait didn’t you just solve the problem

[mint mountain]

It’s not my fan curve

I fixed it some,

I can bench and stress in cpuz but if I try to run furmark cpu burner it bluescreeens

@vernal sail

I have a 240mm aio

For reference

[icy shale]

Hey I’m new to the whole overclocking scene. How do I get started? I have a MSI GeForce rtx 3060 ti, intel core I5 9600k. Thanks

[quick rose]

Check the pins

Forks has some awesome guides here

Read up, then try

[mint mountain]

Search up a video for your specific motherboard (and cpu if there’s one for both together) and kinda copy what they are doing

[icy shale]

Ty

[mint mountain]

Same for your graphics card (you will need msi afterburner

[icy shale]

I’m just curious. But I’m afraid that I’ll mess up overclocking so bad that I’ll bsod boot loop my 2k rig or something

[dull ginkgo]

Afterburner oc is pretty simple and easy, just need to read up a lot on CPU oc in bios

Basically, don't oc ram if you don't want to deal with boot loops or no boot

Otherwise, software oc (msi afterburner, Intel xtu) have options not to apply on startup, so if they do crash, they aren't applied again

[mint mountain]

I just enabled xmp because it sounded a lot harder to oc ram

[dull ginkgo]

Ram oc is hectic

For little gain

[icy shale]

Ty kind sir

[dull ginkgo]

Too much reset cmos/flashing new bios

[mint mountain]

If only my gpu would come on Monday instead of Tuesday

Because I actually have school on Tuesday

[sudden torrent]

Usually you won't do any permanent damage if you messed up an overclock unless you pushed the voltage too high (many motherboards will warn you if you try that)
It's best and most stable to make all of your changes in BIOS, but software is OK for testing.

[brave steeple]

anyone have an idea on how to OC a 10700k

I have a kraken AIO X53 cooler

vision g motherboard from gigabyte

anyone?

bueller?

[tall pelican]

look up a walkthrough of your bios for your motherboard

you have up to 1.45v vcore, load line on medium/high, and increase clocks until unstable

[dusty gulch]

i tryed to oc the cpu and corrupted my windows so i gave up i focus on gpu

I just have PBO on and call it a day

That 2060S is cookin with gas tho

She be fast

also the ram is 3600 but isnt stable so its set to 3333

this is my best run https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18293528

and this is second best https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16064202

[bleak sable]

should I put power limit on max

to 110%, its on 105% rn

[dusty gulch]

yes

the max power limit is actually determined by the GPU bios the PCB is rated for 110% power delivery

[bleak sable]

this is stable so far

nmvm just crashed LOL

[dusty gulch]

basically the card maker EVGA or whoever overbuilds the cards to provide more power or what ever thats why they charge more for the part

set the power to max and that should help

@bleak sable

if its like the 20 series in terms of oc it should hit atleast +70

thats mine

[sterile flame]

mine

[bleak sable]

3070

and niceee

[dusty gulch]

i meant the almost all 20 series cards hit plus 70 i don't know about the 30 series but i would guess its similar and will probably be stable at +70 or more

[bleak sable]

probably

ill mess aroudn with it later

[dusty gulch]

hit the auto oc button on msi it should be close to the max you can do

im hitting 2100 clocks

[bleak sable]

auto OC takes the fun away

[dusty gulch]

you auto to get the curve then edit it

thats what i did

[mint mountain]

Hey I need some advice... I overclocked my cpu and it’s pretty stable but it’s around 85-90 degrees Celsius after a few minutes of cinebench. Is this fine or do I need to turn down the over clock? Also, unrelated question, what is a ring frequency/ratio setting and how does it affect overclocking and temperatures? I saw some video and the guy sets it to a certain value but I’m confused what that does.

[dusty gulch]

IDK about the ring thing but 85 is on the hot side not super dangerous but i wouldn't use it as a daily driver just get your bragging rite bench save it then turn it down

@mint mountain

what CPU?

[mint mountain]

10600k

Only 4.9 gzh on all cores

At 5 it needed to be at like 100 degrees to be stable lol

@dusty gulch

[dusty gulch]

65 - 90 is ok

but but lower is better

at 85-90 you might start thermal throttling and could shave some time off the life of the part

[sterile flame]

90 degrees?

is that on stock cooler or?

[bleak sable]

why am i getting this error

[tall pelican]

you're using the scanner instead of doing it yourself

[bleak sable]

good job

that doesn't help

[tall pelican]

then here's a better answer: afterburner's scanner is stupid and you should do it yourself

[mint mountain]

It’s on a 240 mm aio

[vernal sail]

That aio is not ok

How old is it, which unit?

[dusty gulch]

@tall pelican that's not helpful

The scanner is fine it gives you a good starting point to work off of

As for the error @bleak sable the problem seems to be ether gpu driver related or a older version of msi afterburner

I will look into more later as I'm on my slow ass data right now but try downloading the newest msi afterburner also if you have other gpu oc tools turn them off they can also cause the error

[bleak sable]

Version is newest, and im havving driver issues i can reinstall later

thank you for actually being hepful i appreciateit

[dusty gulch]

DDU then just to be sure the clean install in the drivers does not work properly

No prob

People here can be really my way or highway

If you need more help feel free to @ or dm me

[upper rock]

Also @sterile flame

The way I knew my OC wouldn’t work is because windows wouldn’t boot with the OC on

[sterile flame]

wdym

just means its unstable

[upper rock]

Yeah but what are you supposed to do at that point?

[sterile flame]

lower the oc

[upper rock]

I had increased it literally the minimum amount I could

[sterile flame]

huh

[upper rock]

Past boost

[sterile flame]

Try increasing individual cores then

[upper rock]

Dunno if you can do that in my bios

[sterile flame]

one of the cores doesn't like the oc

you can in ryzen master if you're okay with always having it in background

[upper rock]

I am

It just uses a bit of RAM and CPU, right?

My machine can handle it fine

[inner tangle]

Thanks to #cpus-mobo-and-memory, I learned a thing or two about Precision Boost Overdrive and Max Boost Override. So I tried a couple options with my 5600x.

• PBO enabled
• PBO advanced + 200Mhz Override

In stock settings, all cores can go 4.2ghz while single core boosts to 4.64ghz. With PBO enabled, the single core stat remains the same, yet the speed for all cores moved up to 4.53ghz; heats up like a mudda at 83c, though. With PBO Advanced+200, the single core actually gains a boost with 4.83Mhz and--as of Cinebench--it holds by that speed. In a weird twist, all cores not only didn't go above 4.53, it downscaled from the stock setting to reaching 4.16ghz.

At least I know my CPU can boost up to 4.8, but only in single core. Anything more than 4.5 on all cores, and the computer shuts down on me. I'm sure there's more tinkering involved to stable all cores at higher speeds than its PBO spec, but frankly, I'm glad to gather the data as is.

[tall pelican]

raised the pbo limits?

[inner tangle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tall pelican]

you're most likely hitting some limit during cinebench, causing the low clocks

[inner tangle]

For another day.

[grave pilot]

Does overclocking mean going over the boost clock of a CPU? For example the r7 3700x has a boost clock of 4.4. Does overclock improve that number or is that the max

[vague gull]

yes

[sudden torrent]

Overclocking with PBO will increase the max boost clock, manual overclocking gets tricky since some cores might not like staying so high for so long.

[faint tangle]

Whenever I overclock my 3060 ti to 1000+, my pc black screens for a minute and then programs close

[wintry sleet]

oof

[faint tangle]

Would that be power delivery?

B450MH

[sudden torrent]

If it was power it would just shut off. It sounds like it just doesn't want to clock that high

[faint tangle]

Alr thanks

The mobo is kinda cheap

Pre built, like a 60$ motherboard

[sudden torrent]

The motherboard has little to do with the GPU

The GPU draws most of its power direct from the supply

[faint tangle]

Oh right the power doesn't go through the motherboard

[dull ginkgo]

1000+ what?

[faint tangle]

The cpu does

[dull ginkgo]

like going above 1000mhz core..?

or going above +1000mhz mem?

[faint tangle]

I use msi agterburned

Wow

That was good typing

Afterburner

Yeay +1000hz or higher

[dull ginkgo]

like above +1000 mem/core it's probably just silicon can't take it higher

[faint tangle]

Jesus christ I hate mobile keybiards

[dull ginkgo]

silicon lottery

[sudden torrent]

Keybiards lmao

[faint tangle]

You have no idea how bad it gets

Im not even typing that fast

[dull ginkgo]

I get you

I'm on mobile half the time

[sudden torrent]

You may be able to do a custom vBIOS mod to allow for higher power limits and temperature limits but you'd run the risk of burning out the card pretty fast

[faint tangle]

I used to use mobile more, but now that I have headphones that works with my pc so im on that kore

[dull ginkgo]

eh, vbios mod just for a bit of vram is not gonna be something I'd do lel

[faint tangle]

Yeah id rather not risk that, its my first real pc and its going to be my pc for atleast 3 years

[sudden torrent]

Yeah definitely not worth the risk

[dull ginkgo]

I'd say never do vbios mods unless you have another GPU you can boot with to flash another vbios on

even then take it with a grain of salt

[sudden torrent]

I meant it more as a "if you really want to it's possible" but usually you wouldn't want to

[faint tangle]

Yeah my cpu bottlenecks my gpu slightly without overclocking, so doesnt matter that much

[left blade]

TheTrueBacca#2995 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[faint tangle]

BRUH

Guess I shoulda read the server rules

[sudden torrent]

That's why it warns instead of insta ban lol
Now you know

[faint tangle]

Lol yeah

[dusty gulch]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/58361395?

[sterile flame]

with what you're describing are you sure you're doing memory overclock?

[upper rock]

SCP fan

[faint tangle]

Yeah its definitely memory overclock mando, it says memory ovetclock on msi afterburber

[faint tangle]

My friend was wondering, can you overclock an all in one? I had them try to download MSI afterburner, doesnt even install

[quick rose]

MSI is just for GPU

For CPU, needs to be done in BIOS

So I kinda doubt it

[faint tangle]

Alr thanks

[quick rose]

It's also probably Intel which requires a K model CPU

[upper rock]

Wait

Afterburner won’t install?

That’s odd

[faint tangle]

Yeah I was confused too

Might just be the version of windows he has? Idrk

[upper rock]

What version?

[quick rose]

Is it 8 or 7 or something?

[faint tangle]

Idk

Hes offline rn so I cant ask him

Its like a 5 or 6 year old aio I think

[upper rock]

Huh

When was 10 released again?

[upper rock]

Do you know if it isnt windows 10?

[faint tangle]

Idk

I was just helping him a lil while ago with making a parts list, he asked me yesterday how to make his aio go faster

[quick rose]

best upgrade you could do to that is RAM and maybe an SSD

[faint tangle]

Yeah thats what I just dmed him

Said switch to an ssd if he has to wait a while to buy his pc

[upper rock]

It probs has a 64 or 128gb SSD, especially if it was a “higher quality” one at the time

[faint tangle]

Idk, hes planning in either building a pc or getting one for around 1300 usd

You could get a 3060 with that right?

He lives in eu tho, so prices are a little higher there

[quick rose]

Easily, yes

Intel 10400F

3060TI

etc

[faint tangle]

Cool wanted to make sure I wasn't being dumb

[sterile flame]

is it possible to "overclock" your drives?

Hit higher speeds

[upper rock]

Not AFAIK

[sterile flame]

Cause currently hit my max ram speed

working on GPU

and CPU, just turned on PBO

[sudden torrent]

Sort of but not really and only on certain HDD

[sterile flame]

ah.

[sudden torrent]

It would require a HDD with molex connector and some electrical work, stripping and soldering

But at that point just get a SSD, way easier

[sterile flame]

Wanna hear a joke? 1.6 voltage

But seriously, don't try that.

[sudden torrent]

Not unless you have A die DDR3, then it's reasonable

[dull ginkgo]

nah, b die OC sounds fine with 1.6v

[proven canopy]

same with rev.e

[dull ginkgo]

@proven canopy does rev e care as much about heat as b die with higher voltages?

[proven canopy]

definitely not

[dull ginkgo]

fair

[proven canopy]

see buildzoids rev.e vs hairdryer vid

[dull ginkgo]

alright, thanks

[dusty gulch]

You have been infected with a Class B Infohazard please remain at your terminal and do not contact anyone until the aerosolized amnestic has taken affect. You will know it has when you can no longer remember your wife and kids.

[upper rock]

Imagine being susceptible to Cognitohazards of any kind

Laughs in Serpent’s Hand

[dull ginkgo]

Imagine being on SCP foundation records

Laughs in Antimemetics division

[dusty gulch]

Imagine having a name

Laughs in Overseer

@upper rock

[dull ginkgo]

Imagine not having named Overseers

Laughs in ouroboros

[dusty gulch]

Imagine killing the entire overseer roster then becoming O5-1

Cries in Chaos Insurgency

Imagine rebuilding your god just to watch it eat half of mexico then create the gulf of mexico when the Pre-GOC blew it up.

Grinds gears in Church of the Broken God

[dull ginkgo]

@dusty gulch well, not pre-goc, it was 2399

Imagine building an Antimemetics bomb, just to detonate it, and delete all of the relavant information in building an Antimemetics, just to build it again.

Laughs in the unthinkables

[dusty gulch]

On July 17th, 1943, agents from the Allied Occult Initiative

it was pre goc

[dull ginkgo]

Lemme just go find it again

[dusty gulch]

2399 is the anomaly they used

I should know I am on the council

[dull ginkgo]

00:20: One such mortar strikes SCP-001. No damage is visible.

00:22: The underside of SCP-2399 is glowing blue.

00:24: A bright beam of light erupts from SCP-2399 and strikes SCP-001. SCP-001 violently reacts and reaches towards SCP-2399.

00:26: There is an explosion. Nothing can be seen on video.

00:30: As nearby people scream, video ends.

2399 is autonomous

Read the 2399 logs :p

[dusty gulch]

On July 17th, 1943, agents from the Allied Occult Initiative contacted Foundation directors stationed at La Paz, Mexico, and requested assistance with transportation towards the site of the 001-Apotheosis entity. Foundation operatives moved quickly to dispatch a plane to retrieve the AOI members. After arriving, the agents described a unique anomalous artifact they had in their custody, and how it might be used to slow the advance of the 001-Apotheosis entity.

[dull ginkgo]

"Records of the event following the appearance of SCP-2399 are incomplete and likely inaccurate. The result of this engagement was the annihilation of SCP-001. SCP-2399 disappeared and was later discovered in low-Jupiter orbit in a state of disrepair, though the reason for this is currently unknown."

[hasty sphinx]

wth is going on

[dusty gulch]

the AOI summoned it